Ep.#430 - The Garbage Pail Kids Movie, LIVE, with Griffin Newman!

Dan McCoy

[0:00] On this episode, we discuss the Garbage Pail Kids, live from Brooklyn, New York!

[0:30] That was a hot one.

Stuart Wellington

[0:40] It was a hot one.

[0:41] You picked up your cue perfectly.

[0:43] Thanks for heating up.

Dan McCoy

[0:45] Hello, we are the Flophouse Podcast.

[0:47] We are a podcast where we watch a movie that is purportedly bad, and then we report back to you.

Elliott Kalan

[0:54] Let's leave some wiggle room, Dan, just in case.

Dan McCoy

[0:58] And to introduce myself, I'm Dan McGoy.

[1:01] I'm Stuart Wellington.

Elliott Kalan

[1:03] I'm Elliot Kalin, and joining us, we have a very special guest from a much more popular podcast.

[1:08] That's right, introduce yourself, sir.

[1:10] I'm Grippin' Griffin Newman.

[1:12] Oh!

Stuart Wellington

[1:15] We really should have prepped that bit ahead of time, where we all had cool names.

Dan McCoy

[1:19] For the listener at home, a reference to apparently the only Griffin-themed Garbage Pail Kid.

Stuart Wellington

[1:25] I can't believe there wasn't one where it was like a Griffin-like monster.

Griffin Newman

[1:29] No, and there's no Gryffindor, there's no Peter Griffin, there's no...

[1:33] Grippin' Griffin is the only one.

[1:35] And he's a fucking wrench with a face.

Elliott Kalan

[1:38] But whose teeth are being broken by being used for his purpose, which is to remove a bolt.

[1:43] He literally eats nuts, is what he does.

[1:46] That's how much he sucks.

[1:47] Well, I mean...

[1:48] It's a good source of protein.

Dan McCoy

[1:49] To be fair, the human tooth is not meant to be a wrench.

[1:52] So, you know, give him a little...

[1:54] Learn something here.

[1:55] Yeah.

[1:55] Okay.

[1:56] I'm just gonna back away a little bit.

Stuart Wellington

[1:58] So we watched...

[1:59] This is a movie that we have talked about quite a bit, and Griffin had been texting me, I feel like, almost every week, saying,

[2:07] Are we doing Garbage Pail Kids?

[2:08] Are you doing Garbage Pail Kids?

[2:10] Is anyone doing Garbage Pail Kids?

Dan McCoy

[2:12] How can I see Garbage Pail Kids again?

Elliott Kalan

[2:15] Now, this is a movie...

[2:15] Do you have to take children and put them into Garbage Pails to make this happen?

Stuart Wellington

[2:19] And this is a movie that I...

[2:21] Like, I loved the Garbage Pail Kids when I was a child.

[2:24] And I was fascinated by the concept that there was a movie.

[2:27] But my mother, possibly wisely, was like, you're not allowed to watch that.

[2:32] And it wasn't like...

[2:33] It was also a thing that I had heard about or I saw in the back of, like, Mad Magazine or something.

[2:37] But it didn't, like, play in the movie theater near me.

Dan McCoy

[2:41] Yeah.

[2:41] Can I ask a fundamental question about this?

[2:45] It's a very small thing, but garbage...

[2:47] What a movie is?

[2:49] Yeah.

[2:51] A flicker.

[2:52] Garbage Pail.

[2:53] Flicker, you said, right?

[2:54] Flicker, yeah.

[2:56] Is this a thing that people say, or did they just put pail in there because it's closer to hatch?

[3:01] Midwestern Dan over here never heard of a garbage pail.

[3:04] Is that...

[3:05] I mean, it's like a garbage can, right?

[3:07] Like, that's what we're being shown.

[3:08] Garbage is just an old way of saying trash can.

[3:11] Yeah, garbage pail.

[3:12] Garbage pail?

[3:12] Garbage pail, yeah.

[3:13] Garbage pail.

[3:13] I just didn't know whether it was an actual thing or whether it was just...

Griffin Newman

[3:16] Well, it's not, like, pail and patch are that close.

[3:20] I mean, they could have done garbage can, kid, and people still, I think, would have gotten it.

[3:24] I think pail was just...

[3:25] There was a little...

[3:26] It's got a little flair to it.

Dan McCoy

[3:27] There's a little pizzazz to it.

[3:28] Yeah, yeah.

[3:28] A pail.

[3:29] Yeah.

[3:29] You put a gross thing in a pail.

[3:31] Yeah.

[3:31] Yeah, okay.

Griffin Newman

[3:33] I mean, unless it's a munch pail.

[3:33] Yeah, that makes sense.

[3:35] A can is for, like, responsible disposal, and a pail is for boogers, vomit.

[3:41] Yeah.

[3:42] Exactly.

[3:42] Because a pail...

Elliott Kalan

[3:43] I have to assume a pail is an open top...

[3:46] Yeah.

[3:47] ...holder.

[3:47] Yeah.

[3:48] Yeah.

[3:48] So these kids can just...

[3:49] And their sputum or whatever can just crawl right out.

[3:52] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[3:52] Guys, thank you for taking that trip with me.

[3:54] Even if perhaps it wasn't the most, you know...

[3:56] Necessary.

[3:57] Necessary trip.

[3:58] I found it rewarding.

[3:59] Okay, good.

Elliott Kalan

[4:00] Now, I want to say...

[4:01] That's all the matters, right?

[4:02] Stuart, I saw this movie when I was a kid.

[4:03] Not in the theaters, unfortunately.

[4:05] Which is surprising.

[4:06] In a screening room.

[4:07] Yeah, in a private screening room.

[4:08] I was invited to an industry screening event as a child.

[4:12] I saw it probably on HBO, because I saw it uncut on TV.

[4:15] And I have to admit, my memory was not of being like,

[4:19] Oh, what is this?

[4:20] The same way it was when I watched Nothing But Trouble on HBO as a kid.

[4:22] I think this movie washed over me,

[4:25] entered the store of knowledge in my head,

[4:28] and I felt no need to comment on it or think about it.

[4:31] And it's only as an adult, watching it again,

[4:33] that I'm like,

[4:34] What the hell is going on in this movie?

[4:36] Like, it should have traumatized me.

[4:38] And yet, I don't know what was going on in my home life at the time.

[4:40] The Garbage Pail Kids was somehow an escape from that.

Griffin Newman

[4:44] I think I saw this movie on VHS.

[4:48] My older cousin, when I came of age...

[4:52] Let me sit you down and tell you about the...

Dan McCoy

[4:55] Garbage Pail Kids.

Griffin Newman

[4:57] Eight or nine...

[4:57] When Griffin, when you had your Garb Mitzvah...

[4:59] When I had my Garb Mitzvah...

[5:01] No, I think I was like...

[5:03] Eight or nine, and my older cousin,

[5:07] who maybe his...

[5:08] I don't know, his parents were cleaning out the basement.

[5:11] He gifted me his entire Garbage Pail Kids collection...

[5:15] Oh, nice.

[5:15] ...of cards, of the stickers,

[5:17] which was fairly complete.

[5:19] I became very obsessive, and...

[5:22] You were obsessed about that?

[5:23] I know.

[5:24] There was one website that I think was called GPKWorld.net,

[5:28] that was like a Geocities-style page.

[5:31] That was the one...

Dan McCoy

[5:32] I got a virus just hearing that.

[5:34] You're...

[5:34] It was like the one resource that had Garbage Pail Kids information,

Griffin Newman

[5:42] because I became obsessed with cataloging these cards

[5:45] and trying to figure out what cards I was missing.

[5:48] In the early days of eBay trying to buy individual cards to like...

[5:52] Or there was a store in the Lower East Side called Love Saves the Day that used to exist.

[5:55] Yeah, yeah, I remember this.

[5:56] That used to have like a ton of Garbage Pail Kids on the desk.

[5:58] I was constantly like...

[5:59] I'd carry around a little notebook in my backpack with the cards I was missing to try to fill it in.

[6:05] Please tell me...

Dan McCoy

[6:06] I honestly admire the organization.

Elliott Kalan

[6:08] Yeah.

[6:08] Please tell me you had a rival collector

[6:11] who you were trying to chase down the cards before he could get them.

Griffin Newman

[6:14] The way like all Garbage Pail Kids cards had two names.

[6:17] There was an A and a B.

[6:18] Yeah, yeah.

[6:18] So there was like Grippin Griffin and Wrenchy...

[6:22] Ricky or whatever.

[6:23] Wrenchy Reggie.

[6:24] Yeah.

[6:24] Fucking...

[6:24] Yeah.

[6:25] Yeah.

[6:26] But I remember saying to people as a child like,

[6:29] my greatest goal in life is to complete my Garbage Pail Kids collection before I go off to college.

Elliott Kalan

[6:40] Here's what I like about it.

[6:41] Yeah.

[6:42] You're at least not...

[6:43] My number one greatest...

[6:44] At least it's not your life goal.

[6:45] No.

[6:46] Before I shuffle off this mortal coil.

[6:48] No.

[6:48] There was some feeling of, look, when I go off to college, it'll be time to put away childish things.

Griffin Newman

[6:52] Yeah, yeah.

[6:53] But I need to resolve this right before that moment.

[6:56] At which point I clearly will become incredibly mature and never talk about Garbage Pail Kids ever.

[7:01] Ever.

[7:01] Again.

[7:02] Won't figure into your professional life in any way.

Elliott Kalan

[7:04] Won't own a hat or a t-shirt representing the brand.

[7:07] No, no, no, no.

Stuart Wellington

[7:09] Won't show up to college and be like, is there a way that I can minor in Garbage Pail Kids?

[7:12] No, no, no.

[7:13] I'll major in Garbage Pail Kids.

Elliott Kalan

[7:16] So I made my own major in Garbage Pail Kids studies.

[7:19] I'll minor in Dinosaur's Attack.

Griffin Newman

[7:23] But this website, I think, had like a page, because it would like tell you other merchandise and stuff like that.

[7:28] And then there was like a page that said, the movie.

[7:30] And I was like, what the fuck are you talking?

[7:32] Click on that.

[7:33] And it was just really the poster.

[7:35] My memory, there weren't even images of it.

[7:37] Good.

[7:37] And I like ran to my parents.

[7:40] And I was sort of like, how did you not tell me this existed?

[7:44] And they were like, that exists?

Stuart Wellington

[7:46] It's a real blast from the past situation.

[7:48] Right.

Griffin Newman

[7:49] How have you been keeping this for me?

[7:51] Found a video store that had a copy, devoured it, and was like, this is good.

[7:56] This movie makes sense.

[7:58] That was my immediate takeaway.

[8:01] Because I think on the website, it even said like, critically reviled, box office disaster, barely released.

[8:08] And I watched it, and I was like, I don't under, this thing tracks for me from beginning to end.

[8:12] I get it.

[8:13] Very consistent chain of logic.

[8:15] To the degree that it was, it was in the limited selection of movies that I feel like I watched by myself,

[8:20] and then I knocked on my brother's door, and I was like, you gotta come watch this.

[8:23] Yeah.

[8:24] And then just rewound the tape, did it a second time.

Elliott Kalan

[8:26] I mean, I understand.

[8:27] I did that with a friend and Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

[8:30] Yeah.

[8:31] Where I watched it, I rented it from the video store, and I literally stopped it halfway through the movie,

[8:35] and I said, I have to show my friend this.

[8:36] Yes.

[8:36] And I rewound to the beginning.

[8:38] And both those movies are roughly accepted the same.

[8:40] I remember classics of comedy.

Griffin Newman

[8:42] I remember doing that with Monty Python and the Meaning of Life,

[8:44] Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, and the Garbage Pail Kids movie.

[8:47] It has stopped the presses.

[8:49] Other people must know.

[8:50] And I think I eventually...

Elliott Kalan

[8:51] You're just running out in the streets going, have you heard about this?

[8:54] Yeah.

[8:54] It's like the end of Invasion of the Body Snatchers, but you're excited about it.

[8:58] Yeah.

Griffin Newman

[8:58] I don't think I ever even owned it on VHS, but I rented it so many different times.

[9:03] Like, I went back to it.

[9:05] Yeah.

[9:05] And then it finally was released...

[9:06] It bears revisiting, yeah.

[9:07] Yeah.

[9:08] It finally was released on DVD, like, late 2000s, and then Shout Factory put out a Blu-ray release.

[9:12] But I actually had not watched it again in a while.

[9:15] It was probably watching it, like, ten times.

[9:18] By the time I was, like, 14 or 15, then I think I was aware, like, this is, like, a funny thing to show people.

Elliott Kalan

[9:24] I, like, get that this is, like, fucked up.

[9:27] When did you...

[9:27] Did you ever try to show it to your parents?

[9:30] Yeah.

[9:31] And how did that go?

[9:33] I was put up for adoption.

Dan McCoy

[9:36] They did a DNA test.

[9:38] Left in a pail outside of Anthony Newley's magic store.

[9:41] Yeah.

Griffin Newman

[9:41] I remember, like, pointing and being, like, you get it?

[9:43] This is funny.

[9:44] And the kind of thing my dad would do, we would go, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[9:49] Hello, man with butterfly necks.

[9:55] So the movie opens with credits.

[9:57] Yeah.

[9:59] Notably, a credit for the Topps Chewing Gum production.

[10:02] Yeah.

[10:03] I think this is their only film.

Griffin Newman

[10:05] Yeah, I think so.

[10:06] There's IMDb trivia, you know, which is often user-submitted and hard to verify.

[10:11] Does it have a trivia fact that this is the first movie ever based on stickers?

[10:17] I don't know.

[10:18] Let's check it out, yeah.

[10:19] We can still...

[10:20] That has to go to the judges.

Elliott Kalan

[10:21] We were trying to think if there was another movie based on a collectible card.

[10:25] Other than Mars Attacks.

[10:27] Mars Attacks.

[10:28] But it was Guardia Ficcats and Mars Attacks.

[10:29] We're trying to think if there's another one.

[10:30] They never made a Dinosaur Attacks movie.

[10:32] They never did.

[10:33] Which is good.

[10:33] Because I would have watched that as a kid.

[10:34] And those cards scared me enough.

Griffin Newman

[10:35] That was the original plan when they got the Mars Attacks rights, was that Tim Burton was going to do

[10:40] Mars Attacks and Dinosaurs Attack back-to-back.

[10:43] And America voted...

[10:44] Back-to-back Britain Attack.

[10:44] Back-to-back Attack.

[10:46] America voted no.

[10:48] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[10:50] So we get title cards flying at the screen over space.

[10:56] And there's like a garbage can spaceship, which has nothing to do with the movie.

Elliott Kalan

[11:00] At no point are they...

[11:01] I think it is heavily implied that they are from outer space and they arrived in this garbage can.

[11:05] It is never stated.

[11:07] No.

[11:07] It is never...

[11:08] Yeah.

[11:09] We just see it floating through space.

[11:10] And the next time we see it, it's an Anthony Newley's...

[11:12] It's visual.

[11:13] Storytelling.

[11:13] What are you talking...

Griffin Newman

[11:14] It's visuals.

[11:14] That's why the shot exists.

Elliott Kalan

[11:16] It's to let us know.

[11:17] They're giving the audience credit that we can put it together.

[11:20] They're somehow aliens with an understanding of 50s greaser culture.

Dan McCoy

[11:24] Well, I mean, it also is implied that they landed long ago and Anthony Newley has kept them

[11:30] in this pale prisoners because he is some sort of ageless Merlin figure or something.

[11:35] Yes.

Griffin Newman

[11:35] He knows magic.

[11:36] Yeah.

[11:37] Stuart, not to halt you before you're even one line down on your cards.

[11:40] But I do think we need to dig into this deeper.

Elliott Kalan

[11:43] But no.

[11:43] So here's...

[11:44] Because the pale...

[11:45] The thing this movie is missing is a shot of images of the Garbage Pail Kids throughout time.

[11:50] They're in hieroglyphics.

[11:51] One of them has an alligator head.

Stuart Wellington

[11:53] Old-timey black and white photos of them, like, kissing Forrest Gump on the asshole.

[11:57] Exactly, yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[11:59] Just like in the movie.

[12:01] Exactly, yeah.

[12:02] I think it's in the movie.

[12:03] It's what?

[12:03] JFK that does that?

Griffin Newman

[12:05] You want, like, a Transformers The Last Night style reveal of they've been here longer than

[12:10] we thought.

[12:10] Exactly.

Elliott Kalan

[12:11] There's a tapestry with the Garbage Pail Kids and a unicorn is laying its head in their

[12:14] laps.

Griffin Newman

[12:14] They were working with Harriet Tubman.

[12:16] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[12:16] I mean, I do honestly...

[12:18] That's actually in Transformers The Last Night.

[12:20] They're on the moon landing, no spacesuits.

[12:22] They don't need it.

[12:23] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[12:23] I do honestly admire the degree to which this movie has no interest in explaining to you

[12:29] who the Garbage Pail Kids are or why they're here.

[12:31] I want to dig into this.

[12:32] Yeah.

Griffin Newman

[12:33] So the Garbage Pail is both their transportation device but also their prison.

[12:37] Yes.

[12:38] Yes.

Elliott Kalan

[12:38] So it's implied inside the Garbage Pail must be some sort of...

[12:42] They're like a genie.

[12:42] Yes.

[12:42] It's like a tesseract.

[12:44] It's some kind of infinite dimension that they can all fit in.

[12:47] Right.

[12:47] But it's still strong enough that if you put something on top of the lid, they cannot get

[12:52] out.

[12:52] Well, but here's another thing.

Griffin Newman

[12:53] You go like, okay, well, it's a normal size...

[12:55] Because from the opening establishing shop, right?

Elliott Kalan

[12:58] It could be huge.

[12:58] It could be the International Space Station in the Garbage Canyon.

Griffin Newman

[13:00] Absolutely.

[13:01] Yeah.

[13:01] But then the can that's in Anthony...

[13:03] Yeah, get comfortable.

[13:04] Oh, wow.

[13:04] Okay.

[13:04] Yeah, take off your jacket.

Elliott Kalan

[13:05] I guess settle in.

[13:07] Give the people what they want.

Griffin Newman

[13:07] The can that is in Anthony Newley's shop...

[13:10] Yes.

[13:11] Which Occam's razor, we must assume, is the same can we see at the beginning of the film,

[13:15] perhaps.

Elliott Kalan

[13:15] It would be a breaking of film grammar to expect us to think it is two different cans.

Griffin Newman

[13:21] Thank you.

[13:21] Yes.

Elliott Kalan

[13:22] Much like Roger Ebert writes about...

[13:24] I mean, not anymore.

[13:25] He's not lying.

[13:26] Thank you for the clarification.

[13:28] He wrote about showing his students being there.

[13:31] And at the end, spoiler alert, you should see it's a great movie.

[13:33] Peter Sellers walks on water and his students saying, oh, there's probably some reason...

[13:37] There's like a thing he's walking on just under the water.

[13:39] And Roger Ebert said to them, you cannot add something that is not in the film.

[13:42] You have to take the film at its face value.

[13:45] So visually, we have to assume that's the same garbage can.

[13:48] Correct.

[13:48] We can't just say, oh, well, there's a spaceship garbage can and then they lost it.

Dan McCoy

[13:51] Pull out some David Bordwell film texts and just really break it down, you know?

[13:57] Yeah, yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[13:59] But they need magic to get them back in the garbage can, right?

Stuart Wellington

[14:04] Yeah, I mean, let's...

[14:05] I mean, that's like...

[14:06] That's...

[14:07] What's the actor's name?

[14:08] Anthony Newley.

[14:09] Yeah.

[14:09] Who plays Cap'n Manzini.

[14:11] Who's this like?

[14:12] If you're not familiar with him...

[14:13] He's kind of like queer-coded old wizard guy.

Griffin Newman

[14:15] Anthony Newley is very much the poor man's Dudley Moore.

Elliott Kalan

[14:17] Yeah.

[14:17] Like, he had his own career, big Broadway star.

[14:21] Yes.

[14:21] He's very much the poor man.

[14:22] You're watching it, you're like, I guess I couldn't get Dudley Moore for this role.

[14:24] And yet he'll be in Santa Claus, the movie.

Griffin Newman

[14:26] Anthony Newley's big thing was, like, poor man's Dudley Moore as an entertainer, but wildly successful as a songwriter.

[14:33] Yes.

[14:33] Wrote Pure Imagination for Willy Wonka?

[14:36] Yeah, yeah.

[14:36] Wrote, like...

Dan McCoy

[14:37] What Kind of Fool Am I is another one of his?

[14:39] Yes.

[14:39] That was the song.

[14:40] I thought you were asking.

[14:42] Off mic.

[14:43] Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[14:44] So Cap'n Manzini owns a antique shop...

[14:47] Oh, right, right, right.

[14:48] ...that where therein lies a garbage... a magic garbage can.

Griffin Newman

[14:52] Which, let's just clarify, is normal garbage can sized.

[14:56] If we're assuming it's the same can we saw at the beginning...

[14:59] No, you're right.

[14:59] ...you're surprised that it's not vehicle-sized.

Stuart Wellington

[15:02] I mean, it does occasionally squirt out, like, green ooze.

[15:05] Well, we can get that.

Elliott Kalan

[15:05] So here's my explanation for that again.

[15:07] I just said we can't add things from the movie, but I'm going to add things to the movie.

[15:10] Okay, the can is not a spaceship so much as it is a portal that is flung into space to other places

[15:16] where there's some kind of jaunt-style interdimension made of goo that they live within.

[15:23] Maybe they've been imprisoned there because they're horrible creatures.

[15:26] They've been cast out of their own society.

Griffin Newman

[15:27] You're asking the right questions because this is the interesting thing in the movie is that when you see the normal-sized can in Anthony Lee's shop...

[15:36] Captain Manzini's.

[15:37] Captain Manzini's Mandolinia.

[15:39] Yeah.

[15:40] You're like, well, is it a TARDIS situation?

[15:43] Yes.

[15:43] Right?

[15:44] Or like Oscar the Grouch's can where somehow when you go inside the...

[15:47] Yeah, like Snoopy's doghouse.

Stuart Wellington

[15:49] Right.

[15:49] Exactly.

[15:49] Right.

[15:49] But I feel like Oscar the Grouch likes being in his can, whereas the Garbage Pail kids don't want to be in there.

[15:55] They want to get out of that can.

[15:55] So much so that they would prefer to be working in a basement sweatshop than in their can.

Elliott Kalan

[16:00] That tells me that...

[16:01] Yeah, they do work in a basement sweatshop.

[16:02] That tells me that the can is not really their natural habitat, unlike, say, Popeye, the sailor man who lives in a garbage can.

[16:07] Right.

[16:08] But they...

Dan McCoy

[16:09] How does he enjoy going swimming?

[16:11] How does what?

[16:12] How does he like to go swimming?

Elliott Kalan

[16:14] I don't remember how that one goes.

[16:16] I remember the part about he turned on a heater and burned off something.

Stuart Wellington

[16:19] So there's a...

[16:21] In the opening, there's a moment where the Garbage Pail kids get loose, but we don't actually get full view of them.

[16:26] Do we want to talk about the individual?

[16:28] Yeah, we got to talk about the individual.

[16:30] Yeah, so there's...

[16:31] These are all classic GPKs.

[16:32] There are seven of them, and I believe these are all actual classic sticker card characters.

Griffin Newman

[16:36] Yeah, I think they might all even be series one characters.

[16:39] We have...

[16:40] Yeah, the OG GPKs, yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[16:42] We have Alligator, who later on is described as the natural leader of the group.

Elliott Kalan

[16:47] Alligator is an alligator humanoid who eats human toes.

[16:52] Loves toes.

[16:52] And has a lunchbox full of toes and eyeballs.

[16:54] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[16:55] That he eats in this children's film.

[16:57] There's Wendy Winston, who farts.

[17:01] Farts a lot.

[17:02] There's Foul Phil, who's a baby who has smelly breath.

[17:05] Mm-hmm.

[17:06] Valerie Vomit, who only vomits once, I think.

[17:09] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[17:10] Well, she has to...

[17:11] It's like her superpower.

[17:12] She has to use it to defeat the ultimate enemies.

[17:13] It's the Chekhov's gun of the movie.

Griffin Newman

[17:15] Yeah.

[17:15] Because all the other characters, they do their gimmick early and often.

[17:18] Valerie Vomit saves it.

[17:20] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[17:20] You got messy Tessie, who's always dripping snot.

[17:24] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[17:24] She's kind of messy, I guess.

Stuart Wellington

[17:26] Must be like raising a kid these days, huh?

[17:28] It is.

Elliott Kalan

[17:29] They pick their noses, but they clean it because they eat it right there.

[17:31] These days.

[17:32] These days.

[17:33] It's all this TikTok.

[17:34] It over-emphasize, over-stimulates the nasal passages.

Dan McCoy

[17:39] We have Dan's favorite character, Nat Nerd, who urinates down his leg several times during

[17:45] the movie.

[17:46] And I think every time I yell, don't do that at the screen.

Elliott Kalan

[17:49] Now, he is Dan, but to be fair, he has to be a character who pees himself because he

[17:53] is covered in acne and also wears a Superman costume.

[17:56] So, of course, he's going to pee himself, too.

Stuart Wellington

[17:58] And then there's Greaser Greg, which I believe you can correct me.

[18:03] It was voiced by Andrew Dice-Claid.

[18:06] Greaser Greg's kind of your old-school badass.

Elliott Kalan

[18:09] Yeah, he's super cool.

[18:10] Greaser Greg is basically the Gorge from Sharpling and Worcester.

[18:13] Yes.

[18:14] But he threatens the child star of the movie with a switchblade more than once.

Stuart Wellington

[18:19] And speaking of that child star, we cut to a park where Dodger, played by Mackenzie

[18:24] Aston, is running away and then gets shaken down by a gang of toughs.

[18:29] Juice, Tangerine, Wally, and Blythe.

[18:32] Juice is the leader.

Dan McCoy

[18:33] Four names that have never occurred in nature together.

[18:35] No.

Elliott Kalan

[18:38] Yeah.

[18:38] Tell me about Juice, Elliot.

[18:40] Juice, he's the leader.

[18:41] He's your classic, I guess, outsider's, what, pony boy type?

[18:44] You know, he's...

[18:45] Similar.

[18:45] And he's also, like, kind of, like, pimp-coated, I guess?

[18:48] Yes.

[18:49] He is also...

[18:50] Well, he's a pimp if pimps stole the money that their charges got from selling homemade

[18:56] fashion.

[18:57] Yeah.

[18:57] So the love interest, she is a...

[19:01] Tangerine.

[19:02] Tangerine.

[19:02] She's a budding fashion designer.

[19:04] She makes clothes and then she sells them outside of the hot spots that the kids are hanging

[19:07] out at.

[19:07] And then Juice just shows up and steals the cigar box with the money in it.

[19:10] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[19:11] So this gang of toughs shakes down Dodger, again, a child, 14-year-old child.

[19:15] Yeah.

Griffin Newman

[19:15] Who looks about 11, which is kind of a part of the key dynamic of this film.

[19:21] Yes.

Dan McCoy

[19:21] We should say, like, the actor and actress who play Dodger, Hero, and Tangerine are actually

[19:27] one year apart.

[19:28] Like, he's 14, she's 15 when this is made.

[19:31] They look like 11 and 18.

[19:33] Yes.

Elliott Kalan

[19:34] That's what happens with kids of that age, dude.

[19:37] Yeah.

[19:37] Never has the...

[19:37] Puberty's crazy.

[19:38] Never has the faster maturation of the female body seemed more...

[19:43] Sounds so gross when you say...

[19:44] Creepy and weird in a children's film.

Stuart Wellington

[19:49] Speaking of creepy and weird, one of the toughs picks...

Elliott Kalan

[19:51] Dan, I didn't invent the timeline that people...

Dan McCoy

[19:53] I'm not blaming you.

[19:54] I'm saying Garbage Pail Kids makes it feel really creepy because, like, they're like,

[19:59] let's make her look really old.

Elliott Kalan

[20:01] Also that she seems to live on her own.

[20:03] Like, she has a job.

Stuart Wellington

[20:04] She has a car.

[20:05] She has a car.

Dan McCoy

[20:06] Yeah.

[20:06] One of the toughs picks up Dodger, the kid, and...

Stuart Wellington

[20:09] They try to kill him.

[20:10] Holds him upside down, shaking him, doing, like, a standing 69.

[20:13] And I'm like, what's happening here, movie?

Griffin Newman

[20:15] I want to call out Juice's vibe for a moment because...

[20:19] Let's do it.

[20:19] Yeah, now's the time.

[20:20] A lot of bullies in classic kind of youth-based pictures, right?

[20:24] Or even in reality.

[20:26] The physical violence is sort of means to an end, right?

[20:30] Yeah.

[20:30] You want something out of the kid.

[20:32] Money.

[20:33] You want to create a sense of power, right?

[20:36] Yeah, feel superior.

[20:37] Because you're mad at yourself.

[20:38] Right.

[20:39] Juice almost seems to live for inflicting pain.

[20:43] Like, that is the point to him.

[20:45] Yeah, he's a sadist.

Elliott Kalan

[20:45] He's not like, I'm going to beat up this kid.

[20:47] He's like, throw him in the sewers, then open up the valves so that the water rushes in.

[20:52] Not to the murderer.

[20:53] Not to get ahead.

Griffin Newman

[20:54] He's a Batman villain.

[20:55] He genuinely wants to murder the kid.

[20:57] And everyone else is like, hold back 10%.

[21:00] Yeah.

[21:01] There is a point later in the movie where, not to get spoilers, but Dodger is making a little bit of money for his criminal enterprise.

[21:08] Yeah.

[21:08] And he goes like, oh, God, this is working against my natural instinct, which is to kill him.

[21:15] That he, like, hates.

[21:17] At least he understands himself.

[21:19] But they're like, calm down.

[21:21] You're making money off this kid.

[21:22] And it's like, I can't get my fucking rocks off unless I drain the life out of him.

Elliott Kalan

[21:27] Now, Juice's two main hench people, the guy and the girl.

[21:31] Wally and Blythe, yeah.

[21:32] Wally and Blythe?

[21:33] Blythe, yeah.

[21:34] Yeah, Blythe.

[21:34] Based on Blythe Tanner.

[21:36] Yeah.

[21:36] Now, are they supposed to be a couple also?

Stuart Wellington

[21:39] I mean, it's not expressly said in the movie, so you can't assume that.

[21:42] That's true.

[21:43] I can't assume it.

Elliott Kalan

[21:43] Because he has, like, a muscle-bound thug who is not very good at his job and is easily kind of defeated.

[21:49] But then he has this muscle-bound girl who's the thug who is a killing machine.

[21:53] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[21:53] Much stronger.

Griffin Newman

[21:54] To be clear, Wally and Blythe are both alternate spotters for you at the gym, right?

Elliott Kalan

[21:59] Yeah, yeah.

[22:00] Yes.

Stuart Wellington

[22:02] And their outfits are incredible.

[22:04] So Dodger, covered in garbage water, ends up at the antique store where Manzini takes care of him.

[22:10] Where he seems to work and is also maybe living.

[22:12] And you're probably wondering, where are all the fucking parents?

[22:15] Yeah.

[22:15] Because they're not in the movie.

Dan McCoy

[22:16] What is the relationship between this man and this elderly wizard?

[22:20] This kid.

[22:22] It's like a Doc Brown thing plus magic going on, minus parents.

Elliott Kalan

[22:26] But Michael J. Fox had parents, at least.

[22:27] I mean, the character that he plays.

[22:29] Yeah.

Griffin Newman

[22:29] No, Manzini is both his surrogate father and maybe just his default father.

[22:34] Yeah.

[22:35] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[22:35] You have to imagine, again, you're not supposed to add things outside the frame of the film.

[22:40] That much as between the third and fourth Planet of the Apes movies, a virus swept the earth,

[22:46] killing all the dogs and cats, and that's why apes are now pets, that a virus swept the earth,

[22:50] killing parents.

[22:51] And anyone who owns an antique store is immune.

[22:55] And children are immune.

Dan McCoy

[22:56] Happening in the Night of the Comet universe at the same time.

[22:59] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[23:00] The N-O-T-C-C-U.

Stuart Wellington

[23:02] Yeah.

[23:02] So while he's, like, sharing various pearls of wisdom, they talk about the magical garbage

[23:10] can, which Manzini describes as kind of like a Pandora's box, which I think adds some background

[23:16] to the garbage pail kids.

[23:17] Not really, but yeah.

[23:21] Later on, Dodger tries to impress Tangerine, who's looking in the shop window.

[23:25] He gives her some stuff, and then Juice and the gang show up and start some trouble,

[23:30] and they end up knocking over that can.

[23:31] It does sound like a 70s funk act, yeah.

[23:33] Yeah, they end up knocking over that can, and green ooze starts spilling out.

Griffin Newman

[23:36] Now, this is interesting, right?

[23:39] Because you're saying, okay, is this a portal to another dimension?

[23:43] Yes.

[23:43] But we've also seen them basically traveling inside of it, because you do hear their voices

[23:48] rattling around when the can is closed.

[23:49] When they're in space.

Stuart Wellington

[23:50] And sometimes the can is, like, moving almost like it's breathing.

[23:53] Like, the can is alive.

[23:54] Right.

Elliott Kalan

[23:55] But if it's spilled...

[23:55] If this was David Cronenberg's Guardian But You Fail Kids, the movie, the can would be alive.

[23:59] Oh, don't tempt me with this.

[24:01] But the kids don't crawl out of the can.

Griffin Newman

[24:03] No.

[24:04] They don't, like, magically Mary Poppins-esque, like, you know, clown car, like, leap out.

[24:09] Yeah.

[24:09] Green goo comes out.

[24:11] That's it.

[24:12] The bullies get fucking grossed out and go, like, let's make a run for it.

Stuart Wellington

[24:15] Yeah, they see it, and then it gives them the idea to then go into a nearby sewer,

[24:21] toss the little boy down there, open up a pipe that says toxic waste, and have toxic waste all over a little bit.

Dan McCoy

[24:28] To be fair, they shouldn't have that pipe down there.

Stuart Wellington

[24:30] I do like that all the pipes have labels on it.

Elliott Kalan

[24:33] Yes, and there's a little bit...

[24:34] Every now and then the movie has a little bit of background social satire.

[24:37] Yeah.

[24:37] There's a pipe that says broadcast television.

[24:39] Like, oh, that's where the gunk is, not knowing that broadcast television was the single greatest financial model for television in the world.

[24:48] All right.

[24:49] We wrecked it.

Griffin Newman

[24:50] Okay.

[24:50] We wrecked it.

[24:51] It is, like, the power of the written word is a major running theme in this movie.

[24:55] This is one of the most well-labeled films I've ever seen.

Elliott Kalan

[24:58] It's a movie that believes in texts.

Griffin Newman

[25:01] Yes.

[25:01] It's a series of texts.

[25:02] Yeah.

[25:02] Yeah, that cry out to be interpreted.

[25:04] There's a hot tub pipe.

[25:05] Every jail cell is individual.

[25:08] And they're all labeled.

[25:09] We'll get to that.

[25:10] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[25:10] Yeah.

[25:11] Also, to the broadcast television point, this is a director who directed several episodes of Gilligan's Island, My Mother the Car, other great classics of the television art form.

Elliott Kalan

[25:20] This was the movie that he went out on and somehow, maybe not the nadir of his movie.

Griffin Newman

[25:23] This is a guy named Rod Amatow, whose career started doing stunts for Rebel Without a Cause and being a dialogue director in a lonely place and ended his career with the Garbage Pail Kids movie.

[25:38] And you look at his career.

[25:39] A life well lived.

[25:40] This is basically, like, his career spans, like, the evolution of, like, modern Hollywood and TV and film and every genre and whatever.

[25:48] And you're like, oh, and he made this film when he was really old and he died shortly thereafter.

[25:52] Yeah.

[25:52] No, he died, like, 35 years after this movie came out.

[25:56] He just lived in shame for decades.

Stuart Wellington

[25:58] I think he went out on top.

[25:59] I feel like that's the entertainment career equivalent of collecting every single Garbage Pail Kids before college.

[26:04] This is true.

Elliott Kalan

[26:05] He made the movie and he said, he said, I've said what I need to say in my chosen medium.

Griffin Newman

[26:10] But this is his final credit effort.

[26:12] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[26:12] Okay.

[26:13] So, the little boy is left in the sewer covered in garbage.

[26:16] He is rescued by the Garbage Pail Kids who then wrecked the store.

[26:20] Now, let's describe what they look like.

[26:23] I think that's an important thing because they are little people in costumes.

[26:27] Yeah.

[26:27] With masks that kind of move.

Griffin Newman

[26:29] With animatronic heads.

[26:31] I'm struggling for the language.

[26:32] Giant heads.

[26:32] Yeah.

[26:32] If I described them, I'd say bad.

[26:34] They look quite awful.

Dan McCoy

[26:38] I was saying to my co-host earlier that, like, we got food while watching the movie.

[26:43] And I am not a person, like, if there's a gross horror movie thing.

[26:46] Yeah.

[26:47] I think Indian food was a mistake, Dan.

Elliott Kalan

[26:49] Because, Dan, usually you're like, it's time for dinner.

[26:51] Throw martyrs on there.

[26:53] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[26:53] No.

[26:53] If there's a gross horror movie thing, it does nothing to me.

[26:56] I'm not one of the people who's like, I can't eat during this.

[26:58] But, like, there were a couple times where they just did a close-up of the face of the bad animatronic.

[27:04] I'm like, I can't eat.

Stuart Wellington

[27:06] Yeah, I couldn't tell what was worse, the moments when the faces just aren't moving at all or when they are moving.

Griffin Newman

[27:13] There's sort of, like, urban legend that the faces kept on breaking down.

[27:18] And at certain points in production, there was only one working, like, facial musculature or whatever.

[27:25] So that there are scenes where only one character in a wide shot is expressing because they had to swap them out one at a time.

Elliott Kalan

[27:32] I mean, if only they had gone the Jaws route.

[27:34] They said, the shark's not working, let's just imply the existence of the shark.

[27:38] Like, if only they had maybe used camera trickery to make us think there were garbage bale kids in a scene rather than showing their faces fully lit right in front of us.

[27:47] With voices coming out, they're like, oh, jeez.

Dan McCoy

[27:50] Yeah, and urine running down their legs.

Stuart Wellington

[27:52] So, and a lot of the scenes with the garbage bale kids, they're, like, running around, their faces aren't moving, there's, like, constant chat.

[27:58] Now, are these, here's my other question.

Elliott Kalan

[28:00] The ooze comes out of the garbage can.

[28:03] Are these their natural forms, or are they that goo?

[28:06] And they have taken on the forms of the things they think are earthlings.

[28:09] Like in those Transformers movies, they're not really cars from outer space, right?

[28:13] They're, like, there's lots of cars around here.

[28:15] We'll be like cars, right?

Dan McCoy

[28:16] I mean, I can't say definitively.

[28:18] I can say if this is not their form, they've taken this form long ago because Anthony Newley is, like, oh, no, you let out my garbage bale kids.

[28:24] Yeah, he recognizes them right away.

[28:25] Which, as Stuart pointed out, is, like, so this guy's just been keeping these kids in a garbage can.

Griffin Newman

[28:31] Yeah, yeah, in a prison, yeah.

[28:32] Locked in a garbage can.

[28:33] And he basically, like, contends that, like, they are the modern representation of Pandora's box.

[28:39] I mean, he gives this whole Pandora's box explanation.

Elliott Kalan

[28:40] I wish he had been, like, you ever heard of a thing called the Hindenburg?

[28:44] They were the cause.

[28:45] Like, that would have been the best.

Stuart Wellington

[28:47] Again, once again, garbage bale kids through history kissing assholes.

[28:52] So, speaking of Manzini, he returns, and he tries to get them back into their garbage prison, and they're, like, no.

[28:58] And then he spends the rest of the movie trying to figure out a spell that will get them back in it.

[29:03] Yes.

[29:04] Then a child takes a bath in a tub in the middle of the room.

Dan McCoy

[29:08] In the middle of the store?

[29:10] Unsupervised young child takes a bath surrounded by garbage bale kids and an older man.

Stuart Wellington

[29:15] There was, for the Elliotts in the audience, there was a close-up of a child's feet.

Elliott Kalan

[29:21] Is that what I'm into canonically?

[29:23] I'm working on it.

[29:24] All feet?

[29:25] Trying to build a narrative.

[29:26] Or just children's feet.

Dan McCoy

[29:27] I appreciate you spreading out the libelous lies.

Elliott Kalan

[29:31] I mean, I feel like mine is, this one is much worse than the ones we usually throw in.

[29:35] We just say you're a racist or something, you know.

[29:38] But it is a, this is maybe the most bonkers moment in the movie where they're like, yeah, this kid's covered in ooze.

[29:45] Of course he would get into a bathtub in the middle of a retail establishment, surrounded with an older gentleman,

[29:52] and also these bizarre kind of like alien grotesqueries.

[29:55] And they're, and they are.

Stuart Wellington

[29:56] And he gets comfortable, the child gets comfortable enough to fully submerge himself nude and stick his feet out.

Elliott Kalan

[30:02] And then later, they're like, yeah, he's, they're offering a towel.

[30:05] And the one, and they're, the Garbagefield girl is attracted to him.

[30:09] She's like, ooh, when he's about to get out of the tub.

[30:11] It's super gross and weird.

[30:12] Yeah, I mean.

Dan McCoy

[30:13] There's a line where, no, sorry.

[30:14] It may seem like we're focusing unduly on this, but this movie is bizarre, the degree to which I think it sexualizes these teens.

[30:23] Like, for, like, what is, like, I mean, like, you should never do that.

[30:27] But also, like, a children's film, like I said.

Elliott Kalan

[30:29] It's a very strange vibe, the whole.

[30:31] There were certain things in 80s children's films that filmmakers thought children were super interested in.

[30:36] One, corporate takeovers.

[30:40] And two, like, sex.

[30:42] And this, Garbagefield kids movie, like, 14, 15, 16-year-olds aren't really going to this movie.

[30:47] It's probably like seven, eight-year-olds.

[30:48] Yeah.

[30:48] For them to be like, yeah, yeah, that Garbagefield kid wants to fuck that kid.

[30:51] Like, that's not okay.

Griffin Newman

[30:52] It's also weird that this movie is all about very different types of teenagers.

[30:57] Like, it's not about kids the age of, quote, unquote, the Garbagepail kids.

[31:02] Whatever the Garbagepail kids are supposed to be.

[31:04] I mean, they're ageless, yeah.

[31:05] That's true.

[31:05] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[31:06] There is a moment.

[31:08] Like a fine wine.

[31:11] Dan, do Orson Welles doing an ad for Garbagepail kids.

[31:14] Oh, the Garbagepail kids.

Dan McCoy

[31:19] I've always been reviled with a grotesquerie.

[31:22] We'll pale no kids before their time.

Griffin Newman

[31:25] There is an atom bomb who pushes a button on a remote and his head explodes.

[31:30] You tell me how to put the emphasis on Gar in Garbagepail kids and...

[31:36] Anyway.

[31:37] There's a moment later, I think it's around the bath scene, where...

[31:41] Because the Garbagepail kids are constantly...

[31:43] Talking, yeah.

[31:44] Talking...

[31:45] They're constantly talking.

[31:46] A lot of chatter.

[31:47] Shut up.

[31:48] They keep talking about how ugly they are in this way where it's like, the other characters

[31:54] are like, no, you're not.

[31:56] Like, trying to make them feel better.

[31:58] Yeah.

[31:58] And Valerie Vomit says something about being repulsive.

[32:02] And Dodger says, like, I don't think you're that ugly.

[32:05] And she just immediately goes, oh, so you want to suck face?

[32:10] Which is horrible.

Stuart Wellington

[32:12] I think roughly around the same time, Manzini, who is, again, the father figure, is like,

[32:16] well, being ugly is not a state of appearance, but rather a state of being.

[32:21] And then Wendy Winston immediately farts.

Elliott Kalan

[32:23] It is a hard lesson for this movie to sell, that it is rather the handsome Juice who is

[32:30] ugly for his actions as a violent belief.

[32:31] Oh, you think he's handsome?

Stuart Wellington

[32:32] Is it because he wears, like, a sport coat with nothing underneath?

[32:35] Because he wears a sport coat with a sleeveless shirt.

[32:37] He's got fingerless gloves and there's an ascot kind of thing.

Elliott Kalan

[32:40] Yeah, and he beats up little kids for money.

[32:42] The idea that, like, it's not your appearance that counts.

[32:44] When these Garfield kids are hideous and they're constantly peeing on themselves and farting

[32:49] everywhere, like, the character is, like, pulling their boogers out in a long strand and it's

[32:54] like, please don't judge by their looks.

[32:58] This is the thing.

[32:59] This man has an alligator's head for a head, but who amongst us has not?

[33:03] It's not 10.5 people's toes off.

[33:06] If the thing is, don't judge someone by their looks, by their behavior.

[33:09] Their behavior is ugly.

[33:11] They're horrible people.

[33:12] Yeah, they're terrible.

Griffin Newman

[33:12] They are all assholes.

[33:14] They have horrible souls.

[33:16] It is what I find fascinating about this movie is you rarely watch a film where every line

[33:20] of dialogue directly negates the previous line of dialogue.

[33:24] Like, it cannot maintain a consistent point for more than 10 words in a row.

[33:28] Yeah.

[33:29] Because, like, I have a theory, and I can't remember if I've ever heard this supported by

[33:35] anything.

Elliott Kalan

[33:35] Okay.

Griffin Newman

[33:36] But that Anthony newly wrote all of his dialogue for this film because his language is very

[33:41] different than the way everyone else talks.

[33:43] Yes.

[33:43] And it's like he was on set.

[33:45] This is also his last film, his last theatrical film.

[33:49] And it feels like...

[33:50] Go out on top.

Elliott Kalan

[33:51] Yeah, that's what he said.

[33:51] Yeah, he had said everything he needed to say, yeah.

Griffin Newman

[33:53] It feels like he was on set every day going, like, this film needs to have a message.

[33:58] Like, he's trying to imbue it with this sense of, like, don't judge people on the exteriors.

[34:03] And then the fucking actors playing the garbage hole kids were not listening to what he was

[34:06] saying and were just fucking acting a fool.

[34:09] Pardon the camera.

Stuart Wellington

[34:11] I mean, if you're stuck with, like, an animatronic head that doesn't work, it's, I'm sure, hot

[34:16] and uncomfortable.

[34:17] Yeah.

[34:18] And you're, like, bumping into each other and you can't see anything.

[34:21] Like, yeah, you're not going to listen to some weird old guy.

[34:24] But this weird old guy...

Dan McCoy

[34:25] Probably the actors inside those heads should be listening to Anthony's.

Stuart Wellington

[34:30] Yeah, probably, yeah.

[34:32] So, Manzini gives them one rule.

[34:34] If they're going to be outside of the can, they need to stay away from normies.

[34:37] Yeah.

[34:37] That's normal people for fear that they're going to get, I don't know, arrested, which

[34:41] is grounded, I guess, in the rest of the movie.

[34:44] So, they, and then the garbage bale kids agree to help Dodger romance Tangerine.

Griffin Newman

[34:51] Yeah, I don't know if we've set this up properly, but Tangerine runs, she's trying to make it

[34:56] in fashion.

[34:57] Yes.

[34:57] She sells her own clothes out of the trunk of her car in back alleys after shows.

[35:03] Yes.

[35:03] Like, she'll go to, like, a club or a concert.

[35:05] A club, yeah.

[35:05] Right.

[35:06] She'll sell her clothes.

[35:07] Every nighttime sequence in this movie has the vibe of an Abel Farrar movie.

[35:12] Yeah, yeah.

[35:13] And she's in these, like, really grimy back alleys selling her clothes.

Elliott Kalan

[35:16] Which we're all, if IMDb is to be believed, we're all on a set.

[35:19] Yeah.

[35:20] These were not real streets.

[35:21] No.

[35:21] So, they somehow went out of their way to make them really dark and grimy and depressing

[35:25] and sad.

Stuart Wellington

[35:25] Yeah, like it's a basket case or something.

[35:27] And the shots all go so long that, like, a character will just wander out of the light

[35:32] into the darkness.

[35:33] Yeah.

Griffin Newman

[35:34] But Dodger is, like, in love with Tangerine.

[35:36] And Tangerine not only, it's, my memory of this as a child was, like, oh, this is one

[35:41] of these classic, like, Ducky and Andy kind of dynamics where he's in love with her.

[35:47] Andy from Toy Story?

[35:48] Yeah.

[35:49] Isn't her name Andy in Pretty and Pink?

[35:50] I don't remember.

[35:51] Andy, I think so.

Elliott Kalan

[35:52] Am I right about this?

[35:54] Thank you.

[35:55] Thank you.

[35:55] But you meant Andy and a rubber duck.

[35:57] Ducky from Toy Story, right?

[35:58] Yeah, that's what I meant.

[35:59] Yeah, yeah.

[35:59] Andy, the boy, and his rubber duck.

[36:03] If Ernie can be in love with a rubber duck, why can't Andy from Toy Story, you know?

Griffin Newman

[36:06] I remember this movie being a dynamic where it's like, oh, she's kind of infantilizing

[36:10] to him and they're close friends, but she doesn't like him.

[36:13] And he's trying to make her see him that way.

[36:16] And the main thrust of this movie is him trying to use the Garbage Pail Kids to make clothes

[36:21] that she can sell so that she likes him.

[36:24] Yeah.

[36:24] But in fact, she is so mean to him.

[36:27] She's using him for a moment.

[36:29] Yeah.

[36:29] She is the meanest woman in the history of cinema.

[36:32] Which, I get it.

[36:34] That's a red flag that I'll go after every day.

[36:36] I mean, yeah.

[36:38] I watched this movie.

[36:39] Oh, you're mean to me?

[36:40] Lovely.

[36:41] Yeah.

[36:41] I mean, re-watching it was a real chicken and the egg thing where I was like, did this

[36:45] form the way I think of romantic relationships?

[36:48] Yeah, yeah.

[36:48] Or did I like this as a child because it already spoke to who I knew I would be?

[36:52] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[36:53] How did Garbage Pail Kids show me that all relationships are just a series of exploitation?

Elliott Kalan

[36:58] Right.

[36:59] So love is inherently transactional.

[37:01] Okay, yeah.

[37:02] I get it.

[37:02] A delicate boy who looks years younger than he actually is.

[37:07] Until there's an action scene.

Stuart Wellington

[37:09] Tall looks much older.

Elliott Kalan

[37:10] And he can really pull up a bow tie with a t-shirt with a spangly sleeveless jacket.

Stuart Wellington

[37:15] Honestly, the fashion in this movie is amazing.

Dan McCoy

[37:18] While they did break up mid-filming, the two of them dated in real life.

[37:23] Really?

[37:23] According to...

[37:24] In real life, in real life, he achieved his tangerine dream.

Elliott Kalan

[37:29] Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[37:31] Dan's running around the stage.

[37:32] Victory lap, victory lap, victory lap, victory lap.

[37:35] Wow.

Stuart Wellington

[37:36] Fair's fair.

Elliott Kalan

[37:37] Wow.

[37:38] Sorry.

[37:38] Okay, so speaking of our two lovebirds...

[37:41] Dan, you know what I was wrong about you.

Stuart Wellington

[37:44] Wait, what did he even say?

[37:45] No, don't worry about it.

[37:46] Still keep going.

[37:47] Yeah, Dodger and tangerine go for a ride.

[37:50] They sell clothes behind a club.

[37:51] Then Juice shows up and takes the money and the car and the babe, leaving Dodger zipped

[37:56] up in a bag.

[37:59] The Garbage Pail Kids, while this is happening, are looking for their friends.

[38:03] That is what they are looking for.

[38:04] They're looking for their friends in, of course, garbage cans.

[38:07] And they steal a food delivery truck and they run over Juice's car and flatten it.

[38:13] Then they eat a bunch of food and stuff in an alleyway.

[38:16] And then they wake up super hungover.

[38:18] I don't know if it's from Chuckie or he.

Dan McCoy

[38:19] Yeah, they keep saying they're hungover from, I guess, eating too many hot dogs.

Stuart Wellington

[38:23] Although they are sitting on a case of Miller High Life, so maybe they're drinking that too.

[38:27] Again, not shown on the screen.

[38:29] Miller hot dogs.

[38:30] They do convince Dodger to dress fancy to impress tangerine.

[38:33] But all tangerine sees is dollar signs.

[38:35] She sees that fancy outfit and she thinks, hey, it's time for you to make clothes for me.

[38:40] So he agrees to make 12 outfits in a week, which of course means the Garbage Pail Kids are making those things.

Dan McCoy

[38:46] This is what's funny to me.

[38:47] The movie takes all the time it saves, you know, telling you what the Garbage Pail Kids are, what they want, why they're here, any of that stuff.

[38:57] And it's like, no, we don't need that.

[38:58] Let's put it into this sort of fashion intrigue story where there's sweatshot labor.

Griffin Newman

[39:03] What that fascinates me most about this film is that, I know we've said this about five times, but it's a movie of many fascinations.

Elliott Kalan

[39:12] It's a multi-faceted gem, sure, yeah.

Griffin Newman

[39:15] You would believe if someone told you, oh, a producer bought the rights to the Garbage Pail Kids and had to make a movie in four months.

Elliott Kalan

[39:22] I'll buy it, yeah, sure, I'll buy it.

Griffin Newman

[39:23] So he took a different script that he owned the rights to and mapped the Garbage Pail Kids on top of them.

[39:28] Because the whole fashion tangerine and Dodger drama.

[39:30] Seems difficult, there's such a unique problem.

[39:33] So that feels like this weird kind of, like, flash dance adjacent.

[39:37] It does feel like the Garbage Pail Kids are extraneous to much of the plot of the Garbage Pail Kids movie.

[39:42] Yes, it is almost incidental that the Garbage Pail Kids happen to be good at sewing.

Dan McCoy

[39:49] On our planet, we're all seamstresses.

Stuart Wellington

[39:52] Which we all learn about because all of a sudden we have a musical number where they sing the song,

[39:58] We Can Do Anything By Working With Each Other.

[40:00] It's a long song, yeah.

[40:02] They steal some sewing equipment from a nearby, appropriately labeled, non-union sweatshop.

[40:08] Yeah, says it right on the door.

Elliott Kalan

[40:09] It's okay to steal from it, yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[40:11] Ironic, because wasn't this production shut down briefly for using non-union labels?

[40:15] Yes.

[40:16] That is true.

[40:17] Courage of their convictions right there.

[40:21] Now, the Garbage Pail Kids start to feel exploited, so they decide to sneak off in costume to the movies where they watch a public domain Three Stooges movie, I'm guessing.

Dan McCoy

[40:31] You've never seen an audience losing their shit laughing like they are to this old Three Stooges short that they're playing for some reason.

Elliott Kalan

[40:40] I'll give them the credit and say maybe the studio owns the rights to this one.

Dan McCoy

[40:44] Oh, you think, Elliot?

[40:46] You think that might be why?

Elliott Kalan

[40:47] It's certainly not top-notch Three Stooges.

[40:49] I did want to say this about the clothing.

[40:51] If this was a true Garbage Pail Kids movie, they would say, we'll make those clothes for you, and they'd sing the song.

[40:56] And then they would deliver 12 outfits covered in vomit.

[40:59] And Tangerine would be like, what is this?

[41:02] But that's not what happens.

Griffin Newman

[41:04] The song is also so bizarre because...

[41:06] Don't play it.

[41:07] I'm not going to play it.

[41:09] I'm not going to play it.

[41:10] But I have...

[41:11] I needed to pull up the lyrics.

[41:12] Don't go to your Garbage Pail Kids playlist.

[41:13] Yeah, yeah.

Dan McCoy

[41:14] Griffin's doing it playlist.

Griffin Newman

[41:20] Garbage jams.

[41:21] Griffin Griffin.

[41:25] What I was saying earlier about, like, every line of dialogue in this movie negates the previous line.

[41:30] This song is, like, a really extreme distillation of it because it has, like, the melody of, like, an instructional kid's song.

[41:38] Like, a song that's about, like, sharing his caring or whatever.

[41:41] It's like...

Elliott Kalan

[41:41] Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do.

Griffin Newman

[41:44] But the opening two lines of the song are...

[41:48] And I'll do my best impression of the way Greaser Greg sings it.

[41:52] Why should we do something nice?

[41:55] Let's quit now.

[41:56] That's my advice.

[41:57] And then the next line is...

[41:58] We can do anything by working with each other.

[42:02] The song can't decide.

[42:05] Beautifully done.

[42:05] Yeah.

[42:06] Woo!

Dan McCoy

[42:07] Professional voice actor.

Griffin Newman

[42:09] It cannot commit to whether the Garbage Pail Kids are assholes or they're learning to be friendly.

[42:14] And it goes back and forth every other line.

[42:17] They're, like, talking about, like, fuck this kid.

[42:19] He really sucks.

[42:21] He can go and suck on ducks.

[42:23] We can.

[42:24] And then they're, like, breaking into sweatshops and doing shit.

Elliott Kalan

[42:27] It's never clear why they're helping him.

[42:29] No.

[42:30] No.

[42:31] Well, the one...

[42:32] They're negging him constantly.

[42:33] The one Garbage Pail Kid has a crush on him.

[42:35] Valerie Vomit wants to suck face.

[42:36] Valerie Vomit has a crush on him.

[42:38] And so she is trying to help him because...

[42:41] This is good writing.

[42:43] Yeah.

[42:43] The relationship between Dodger and Tangerine is mirrored in the relationship between Dodger and Valerie Vomit.

Griffin Newman

[42:50] This is what Shakespeare would do.

[42:52] He is being so upfront with them where he's, like, you guys, I don't fucking like you and I don't like dealing with you,

[42:59] but I need you to do some unpaid labor for me to impress a woman who is basically the modern-day nurse ratchet.

[43:07] Yeah.

[43:08] Who is mean to me all the time.

[43:09] Who is teenage Cruella DeVille.

[43:11] She's so mean, yeah.

Dan McCoy

[43:12] Whose boyfriend stuck me in the sewer.

Griffin Newman

[43:14] Yes.

[43:15] And then also, like, seemingly, like, got hard at watching me nearly suffocate.

[43:19] Yeah.

[43:20] Like, get some sort of, like, juice from it.

[43:24] But they...

[43:26] He's transparent.

[43:27] Like, the reason I'm asking you to do this is to help me win over Tangerine, who they don't seem to like.

[43:33] They don't seem to like him.

Elliott Kalan

[43:35] But Garbage Pail Kids are nothing if not romantics at heart.

[43:37] This is true.

Stuart Wellington

[43:39] Although there is a moment where they warn him, they're like, be careful what you wish for, because you might get it.

[43:43] And I'm like, wow, wisdom from the mouth of Garbage Pail Kids.

[43:46] So, while...

[43:47] We gave her what you wish for.

[43:49] You might just get it.

[43:50] While many of the kids are enjoying the antics of the Three Stooges, Wendy Winston and Alligator get on one of their, what, their, like, mopeds or whatever.

[44:00] Yeah.

[44:01] Their power wheels.

[44:02] And they drive off, but they break down in front of the titled Toughest Bar in the World.

[44:08] That's what the sign says.

[44:09] Toughest Bar in the World.

[44:11] Wendy Winston, yeah, it's one of my bars, obviously.

Griffin Newman

[44:15] I saw it, I'm like, that's actually a really good name.

[44:17] And you mentioned earlier that when they go out on this expedition, they're in disguise.

[44:22] Let's be clear, their disguises are tiny trench coats and sunglasses and fedoras.

[44:26] Yeah, very Ninja Turtles.

[44:26] Yeah, the classic disguise, you know.

Stuart Wellington

[44:29] So, of course, what happens is they start a big bar fight.

[44:33] Wendy Winston bursts in...

Dan McCoy

[44:35] Not a bar fight, just a bar fight.

Stuart Wellington

[44:36] Wendy Winston bursts in and he farts a bunch on a bunch of people, which earns the respect of the bike.

Dan McCoy

[44:42] Stuart, you were showing off physically the fart.

[44:45] So, he does...

[44:47] Yeah.

[44:48] For the listener at home, there's sort of a waggle of the butt involved in the farting.

Elliott Kalan

[44:54] And he puts his hands out as if he's doing like a surfing dance.

[44:57] Yeah.

Griffin Newman

[44:57] Surfing bird dance.

[44:58] Also, meanwhile, he's atop the bar doing that.

[45:01] Below the bar, alligators munching on biker toes.

[45:05] Yes.

Stuart Wellington

[45:05] Which also seems to earn their respect.

[45:07] I do like that the bikers here all have tattoos that look very drawn on Sharpie.

[45:14] Yes.

[45:16] And also, one of the farts blows a guy's mustache clean off his face.

Elliott Kalan

[45:21] That's comedy.

[45:22] That's how comedy works.

[45:23] That's funny jokes.

[45:24] Yeah.

[45:25] Every movie has one funny joke.

Stuart Wellington

[45:28] Like the Garbage Pail Kids end up back at Manzini's.

[45:32] Then there's like...

[45:33] We get the Garbage Pail Kids theme song, which is a little bit rowdier.

[45:37] And there's like a short hijinks montage.

Elliott Kalan

[45:39] You can be a Garbage Pail Kid.

Stuart Wellington

[45:41] Yeah, it's pretty cool.

Elliott Kalan

[45:42] If you're really fucking gross and you do a lot of bad stuff, you can be...

[45:46] I don't remember the actual...

Stuart Wellington

[45:47] Now, the montage mainly features the Garbage Pail Kids in the sewer, redirecting toxic waste

[45:52] into, I don't know, toilets.

Elliott Kalan

[45:54] Into the toilet juices using, which they know the exact pipe.

[45:58] Right.

[45:59] Seems strange.

[46:00] And he's...

[46:01] As all...

[46:01] Because it's a children's movie, he's wearing his pants as he sits on the toilet.

[46:04] So he's lifted up in the air and he's like, whoa.

Stuart Wellington

[46:06] Yeah, Elliot neatly takes off his pants and folds them every time he goes to the bathroom.

Elliott Kalan

[46:11] If I'm in a public bathroom, I take off my pants, I hang them over the side of the stall

[46:16] in the hopes that whoever's on the other side will press them and then return them to me.

[46:22] Every now and then they get stolen and I end up in a sort of Mr. Bean style scenario where

[46:26] I have to get home without pants on.

[46:29] It's hilarious.

[46:30] It's my kink.

[46:32] No one gets hurt.

[46:35] Took a turn at the end.

Stuart Wellington

[46:37] So, speaking of good writing, we'd heard the idea that the Garbage Pail Kids are looking

[46:42] for their friends.

[46:43] Right.

[46:43] And there's a belief that these friends are being kept at the state home for the ugly.

[46:49] Yep.

[46:49] So Manzini and Dodger decide to just wander the streets in daylight until they happen upon

[46:56] a pair of, like, dog catcher-esque fellows who are carrying a giant net and throwing it

[47:02] over any children wearing masks thinking they might be ugly.

Griffin Newman

[47:05] Yeah.

[47:05] You can't wear masks outside.

[47:07] It's not Halloween yet.

Stuart Wellington

[47:09] Yeah.

[47:09] Exactly.

[47:10] Man, we don't even need to play Cliffs.

[47:13] We've got Rich Little joining us tonight.

Griffin Newman

[47:15] The movie's kind of quietly establishing this quid pro quo, which is, like, Manzini's trying

[47:22] to figure out the spell that will get them back in the can, which seems to be a song.

[47:27] He's just at a piano playing different things, waiting for one of them to click.

[47:31] Yeah.

[47:31] And then Dodger's got them working, making clothes for Tangerine, which she loves.

[47:36] As you point out, not only are they not covered in vomit and pus and shit, but Tangerine

[47:41] thinks the clothes rule.

[47:42] Yeah.

[47:43] I'd say most of them-

[47:44] And they do.

[47:45] They're, like, jazzy military outfits.

Dan McCoy

[47:48] Like, if you were on Kids Incorporated, you might wear something like this if you're,

[47:52] like, leading a song, I would say.

Griffin Newman

[47:54] And the Dodger's vaguely, like, offering to try to find their fallen brothers, the cans

[47:59] that landed in other places.

[48:01] Yeah, yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[48:01] They have that POW Garbage Pail Kids MIA flag hanging in the window.

[48:06] Right.

Griffin Newman

[48:07] So they're sort of like, oh, we might have a lead.

[48:10] The home for the ugly might be where your friends ended up.

Elliott Kalan

[48:14] And it's one of those, they're like, we can't let these Garbage Pail Kids be imprisoned in

[48:18] the home for the ugly.

[48:19] We've got to stuff them in a garbage can and put the lid on and never let them out.

Stuart Wellington

[48:23] There is a, like, at one point Manzini's like, it's the only place you're safe is in your

[48:27] garbage prison.

[48:30] Sounds like something an abuser might say.

[48:32] I'm doing this for you.

[48:32] Yeah.

[48:33] So, yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[48:34] So they find the stay home for the ugly.

[48:35] Which is kind of the plot of Hotel Transylvania, right?

[48:38] Yes.

[48:38] Yeah.

[48:39] Yes.

[48:39] So I guess Garbage Pail Kids cast a long shadow.

Stuart Wellington

[48:43] So they do find the stay home for the ugly.

[48:46] It's a very, like, institutional place, but they can't get inside.

[48:49] But they assume the kids are there.

[48:50] The wayward Garbage Pail Kids.

[48:52] Can we talk about some of the well-labeled prisoners?

[48:55] Well, we haven't gotten inside.

[48:56] We haven't gotten quite to the inside yet.

Elliott Kalan

[48:58] There's plenty of time for that.

[49:00] The idea that the movie will suddenly, out of nowhere, they were like, oh, they're probably

[49:03] at the stay home for the ugly.

[49:05] They're like, that's not a real thing.

[49:06] And the movie, out of nowhere, introduces that there are roving bands of ugly catchers

[49:11] who are kidnapping children of any of the ugly.

[49:13] And this is just a service the government provides in the city?

[49:16] Like, it's a...

Stuart Wellington

[49:17] Elliot's like, my tax dollars shouldn't go to that.

Elliott Kalan

[49:20] This is not what I'm supporting.

[49:21] Show me the receipts.

[49:23] I do need to support the school, so...

[49:25] But it is just...

[49:26] The movie is like, look, we haven't introduced a bonkers dumb idea in minutes.

[49:32] Yeah.

[49:33] Let's do this, too.

Stuart Wellington

[49:35] Speaking of bonkers ideas, Dodger introduces Tangerine to the Garbage Pail Kids.

[49:41] It doesn't go particularly well.

[49:43] No.

[49:43] But she does decide to exploit them further and throw a fashion show at a local department

[49:48] store, which begs the question, what department store is like, yeah, this teenage girl can

[49:52] have a full fashion.

Dan McCoy

[49:53] She's had a lot of success selling out of her trunk of her car near this club I go to.

Stuart Wellington

[49:58] It's an easy way to get publicity on the local news.

[50:02] Yeah.

[50:02] It's a very, like, saved by the bell type thing.

Elliott Kalan

[50:05] Local teen who has no parents throws fashion show at local department store.

Dan McCoy

[50:09] For the other post-nuclear mutants in this parentless world we all live in.

[50:13] I don't know why I'm explaining this to you on the news.

[50:15] You already know.

Elliott Kalan

[50:16] You know it already.

[50:16] You're living in this reality.

[50:18] This movie makes so much more sense if it is happening after a nuclear war.

Stuart Wellington

[50:23] However, Tangerine, while happy to exploit the Garbage Pail Kids, does not want them at

[50:27] the fashion show.

[50:28] So on the night of the show...

[50:29] Understandably.

[50:30] Yep.

Elliott Kalan

[50:31] I mean...

[50:31] Should I have the monster that eats toes at my fashion show?

Stuart Wellington

[50:34] Probably not.

[50:35] So she locks them up using a lock and she keeps the key and it's weirdly...

[50:41] She's trying to be weirdly sensual.

[50:42] I'm not a fan of it.

[50:43] But her outfit is pretty cool.

[50:46] So she locks them in the basement.

[50:48] That's when Juice chloroforms Manzini, right?

[50:53] Right.

[50:53] Yeah.

[50:53] He knocks them out and then he and his gang kidnap the Garbage Pail Kids and sell them

[50:59] to the state home for the ugly as like a bounty.

[51:02] Yeah.

Griffin Newman

[51:03] So they don't just catch ugly people in order to keep the streets safe.

[51:07] They also buy them.

[51:10] It says wanted, ugly or alive.

[51:13] Yeah.

[51:14] So Griffin, what is the state home for the ugly like?

[51:18] Here's what it is.

[51:19] It is vertically stacked cells.

[51:23] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[51:23] It's like the end of Cabin in the Woods, say.

Elliott Kalan

[51:26] Yeah.

[51:26] Almost as if there's no fourth wall to the set.

[51:28] Correct.

Griffin Newman

[51:29] And cells can only be on one side.

[51:31] It's a series of jailed cells that are arranged like the Hollywood Squares set.

Elliott Kalan

[51:39] Because what is Hollywood Squares?

[51:41] Not a jail for formerly much more famous people.

Griffin Newman

[51:44] And each cell has one ugly prisoner in there.

[51:48] Someone too ugly to be seen in public with a clearly labeled sign.

[51:55] So there's one that says like, the sign is the explanation of what makes them ugly.

[52:00] Yes.

[52:01] Such as Too Tall.

[52:03] And the person inside that cell is Abraham Lincoln.

[52:06] Sure, yeah.

[52:07] Too bald.

Dan McCoy

[52:09] Resurrected in this post-nuclear.

Elliott Kalan

[52:11] Too bald is, of course, Mahatma Gandhi.

[52:14] Yes.

[52:14] Right.

Dan McCoy

[52:15] Too fat was Santa Claus.

Elliott Kalan

[52:17] Correct.

Griffin Newman

[52:17] Not a particularly fat Santa Claus at that.

[52:20] No.

[52:20] Yeah.

[52:20] No, and it's, the movie's not making it clear if these are professional impersonators or the true people.

[52:26] Yeah.

[52:26] There's like, from time and mythology.

Elliott Kalan

[52:28] A clown that was too silly.

[52:30] Billed as too silly, this clown.

[52:32] That seems like a weird thing for ugly.

[52:33] But they're making a bold statement about the police state and conformity.

[52:37] Yeah.

[52:38] Rod Serling was watching this in his last days going, why didn't I do it this way?

[52:42] Oh.

[52:43] And you're at this point.

[52:44] Beating on my own game.

Stuart Wellington

[52:46] Now you're probably wondering, what about, are there other garbage pail kids there?

[52:49] Well, in a brief bit of dialogue later on, it's explained that they were just crushed in a garbage compactor.

[52:54] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[52:55] They were too late to save them.

[52:57] They're already dead.

[52:57] Oh, God.

[52:58] Which also means that Gandhi is going to be crushed in a garbage compactor and Santa Claus.

Griffin Newman

[53:02] It's wild that the movie, at this point, there were like hundreds of characters from the cards.

[53:08] I'm watching the film for the first time as a child, and I'm like, okay, we're not going to see other garbage.

Stuart Wellington

[53:12] And you have your whole, like, book with all the fucking cards there.

[53:15] Absolutely.

[53:15] Yeah.

Griffin Newman

[53:16] But it's like, budget, I'm guessing we're not going to suddenly reveal ten more kids at the end of the movie.

[53:21] But you don't want to keep the door open for the sequel.

[53:23] Oh, perhaps there are other cans out there.

[53:25] For this movie to go like, no, conclusively, they're all dead.

Dan McCoy

[53:29] These are the sole survivors.

[53:31] We've dealt with them.

Elliott Kalan

[53:32] When we get to this scene of the movie, this is one of those moments where I'm like, if John Waters made this movie.

[53:38] Elliot?

[53:38] Same movie.

[53:39] I had the same thought.

[53:41] I had the same thought.

Griffin Newman

[53:43] And I would feel so differently about it.

[53:45] Yeah.

[53:45] It'd be a masterpiece.

[53:46] Yeah.

[53:47] It would make the sight and sound list.

[53:49] Yeah, it would, yes.

[53:50] It would go Tokyo Story.

Elliott Kalan

[53:52] Yep.

[53:52] Vertigo.

[53:53] Yep.

[53:53] The garbage look at this movie.

[53:55] Then Bicycle Thieves, I guess, yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[53:58] So, back at the fashion show.

[54:01] And this fashion show is fairly professional, right?

[54:04] There's an announcer.

[54:05] There's an audience that seemed very into the fashion.

Elliott Kalan

[54:08] Surprising turnout for the local fashion show of a teens fashion line, yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[54:12] Tangerine has her, like, sitting in front of the makeup mirror moment where she reveals her deception to Dodger.

[54:19] Juice shows up.

[54:20] He throws Dodger in the trash.

Griffin Newman

[54:24] That's another thing in this film is that the more normal, conventional, by-the-book version of this narrative, right?

[54:31] Sure.

[54:32] Even if Tangerine didn't see him as, like, a sexual romantic figure, she would be kind to him.

[54:37] The child you're talking about, yeah.

[54:38] Yes.

[54:39] Which she isn't.

[54:39] She's an asshole to him at all times.

[54:42] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[54:42] But you're also, like, this type of movie is eventually, she goes, like, what am I doing with this jerk?

[54:48] Juice is such a jerk.

[54:49] And instead, she's so into Juice the whole movie.

[54:53] He will, like, come an inch away from murdering someone and then turn around and she'll jump his bones.

[54:59] Make out with him so hard.

Elliott Kalan

[55:00] Yeah.

[55:00] Even beyond, even, you're exactly right.

[55:02] There would be a moment where she's like, what am I doing?

[55:04] Beyond the fact, her career is entirely reliant on his access to these designs.

[55:10] Yeah, so she should at least be knowledgeable enough to know, like, well, everything in my fashion show was designed by your weird monster friends.

[55:16] Maybe I shouldn't piss you off right before the show.

Stuart Wellington

[55:19] And maybe I shouldn't sell your weird monster friends who made all this shit.

Elliott Kalan

[55:23] Yes, that's also true.

[55:24] Okay.

[55:25] I feel like that's Juice and Tangerine working at Crossroads.

[55:27] Yeah, Crossroads.

[55:27] It's a great game of thrones.

Dan McCoy

[55:28] I don't know, that one keeps peeing himself and it's really disturbing.

[55:31] Can we just get him out of here, though?

[55:32] Yeah, I don't know.

Griffin Newman

[55:34] I'm not having him at the show, at least.

[55:35] But he's essential to the process.

[55:36] Okay.

[55:37] Another thing with that nerd, by the way, is all the other Garbage Pail Kids.

[55:40] They seem to kind of relish in doing their thing.

[55:43] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[55:43] Like, Wendy Winston loves farting.

Griffin Newman

[55:46] Nat nerd is so mortally embarrassed every time he pees.

[55:50] It is so, like, it feels like you're briefly getting glimpses of, like, a Todd Solins movie.

[55:56] Yeah.

[55:56] Where he's, like, crying, going, like, oh, no.

[56:00] I can't pee again.

[56:02] Oh, no.

[56:03] And then they all sort of look at him and go, like, you fucking idiot.

Elliott Kalan

[56:07] Nat nerd.

Griffin Newman

[56:07] Why are you pissing yourself like a goddamn baby?

[56:09] Even Foul Phil keeps it in his diaper.

[56:13] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[56:15] Because he is a baby.

Elliott Kalan

[56:16] Oh, no.

[56:18] I'm peeing.

Stuart Wellington

[56:22] Man, I want to smash cut to last night while Griffin practices all these in front of the mirror.

Elliott Kalan

[56:28] They're so close.

[56:31] And there is a moment.

[56:32] I will give the movie credit.

[56:33] Tangerine is very evil, and she's very nasty to the models at her fashion show in a way that I thought was very funny.

[56:38] Yeah.

[56:38] That she is essentially, like, a teenager who is going, who's like, a little bit too much makeup there, miss.

[56:44] Like, she is, it's very funny.

[56:45] 86 the gum.

Stuart Wellington

[56:46] 86 the gum.

[56:47] So, Dodger and Manzini team up.

[56:50] They need to save the garbage bale kids from the stay-at-home-for-the-ugly.

[56:53] They enlist the bikers from the bar.

[56:55] Yeah, they're buddies.

[56:56] Then we have our, like, cabin in the woods, save the freaks moment where everybody's let loose.

[57:01] It's great.

[57:02] They rip the pants off the security guard.

[57:04] They breathe and fart on until he passes out.

Griffin Newman

[57:09] They all do their thing.

[57:10] They use their powers and specials.

Stuart Wellington

[57:12] They do, again, after learning that all the other garbage bale kids were crushed to death, they celebrate and leave.

[57:18] It is great that when the bikers depart, you don't even get a single shot of them riding away on bikes.

[57:22] They're like, we can't afford this.

[57:23] It's all sound effects, right?

[57:25] Yep.

[57:25] Then they're riding so high off their success, they decide to attack the fashion show.

[57:30] This is where the garbage bale kids sneak in and then rip the clothes off all the models, which I'm like, you're not to blame.

Elliott Kalan

[57:37] It's the 80s.

Dan McCoy

[57:38] In the 80s, women had their clothes ripped off and then they ran around.

[57:42] They ran around in circles.

Elliott Kalan

[57:44] Understandably.

[57:44] Squealing.

[57:45] Ran around screaming.

[57:45] Not finding an exit or cover up.

[57:47] Yeah, but ran around screaming in terror.

[57:50] Confused also.

[57:51] But this is, it's like, there's so much in this movie where I'm like, yeah, that was the 80s.

[57:55] It was a bad time.

[57:55] It was.

[57:56] Not everything that came out of the 80s was War Games or Breaker Morant.

[57:59] They were bad movies.

Griffin Newman

[58:00] What is this movie if not trenchant Reagan era satire?

[58:04] We were all running around in circles as if garbage belt kids had ripped off our clothes.

[58:09] We didn't know what to do.

Elliott Kalan

[58:10] They truly were asleep walking through history.

[58:12] You're right.

[58:13] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[58:13] Luckily, they were all wearing, they're wearing bikinis underneath.

[58:16] And the entire fashion show descends into chaos.

[58:20] And in the midst of that chaos, Dodger and Juice finally have a fight.

[58:24] And what's great about this is not only is it really intense, but also most of the shots,

[58:30] the actor who's playing Dodger is a grown man.

[58:34] They make very little attempt to hide this.

[58:37] It's amazing.

[58:38] Unlike the actor who is a 14-year-old boy.

[58:41] Okay.

Griffin Newman

[58:42] There's this sort of classic moment where somehow Dodger finally gets one up on Juice, right?

[58:48] Yes.

[58:49] There's like some crazy sort of like Golden Harvest backflips and crazy moves.

[58:53] But finally, he's just got a pin to the ground.

[58:56] And he's just like wailing on his face.

[58:58] And they cut to a close-up of now not adult stunt double, but real Mackenzie Aston,

[59:04] like crying hysterically as he punches his bully.

[59:07] Covered in blood.

[59:08] Yes.

[59:09] But like hyperventilating.

[59:11] Yeah.

[59:11] And then Captain Manzini has to come up and be like, do not sink to their level.

[59:15] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[59:15] Like, know your limits.

[59:17] It's an oddly like sad and realistic moment how destroyed he is that he has like reverted

[59:23] to pure violence and beaten the shit out of this other kid.

Griffin Newman

[59:26] So once again, unverified, unsubstantiated, but I need to be a trivia claims.

[59:32] That the actor who played Juice claimed that he tried to employ method acting during the production

[59:39] of this movie and genuinely bullied Mackenzie Aston to try to get a more realistic performance

[59:46] out of him.

[59:46] In the garbage mail kids' mood.

[59:48] Oh, God.

[59:48] And with distance, recognizes that perhaps he went too far.

[59:53] But the moment where Dodger starts punching Juice feels like you're seeing something very

[59:58] real and very uncomfortable.

[1:00:00] Yes.

[1:00:01] Yes.

[1:00:01] So they...

[1:00:02] It worked is what you're saying.

Stuart Wellington

[1:00:04] Dodger is dragged away.

[1:00:07] I guess this is resolved at this point.

[1:00:09] Shortly after, Tangerine approaches Dodger and she's like, she tries to apologize.

[1:00:13] She says, maybe we can be friends and do fun things.

[1:00:18] Dodger, to his credit, says, no thanks.

[1:00:21] I don't think you're pretty anymore.

[1:00:24] Oh, yeah.

Dan McCoy

[1:00:26] It's rough.

[1:00:26] Rough.

[1:00:27] It's fucking savage.

[1:00:28] Yeah.

[1:00:29] And then a jaunty song about being a garbage pail kid plays yet again.

[1:00:34] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[1:00:34] Mancini plays the song backwards, hoping it'll suck the garbage pail kids into their pail.

[1:00:39] Instead, they just run off.

[1:00:40] He gets sucked into the pail himself.

[1:00:42] Yeah.

[1:00:42] And they ride off on their Hot Wheels and they wave to the camera and then we get the garbage

[1:00:47] pail's theme song credits.

[1:00:49] Yes.

Griffin Newman

[1:00:49] So there's the garbage pail kids theme song with lyrics that they play in the middle of

[1:00:54] the movie and they're sort of like causing trouble montage and then plays again in full

[1:00:58] in the end credits.

[1:00:59] The one that was nominated for an Academy Award.

[1:01:01] Yes.

[1:01:01] Yeah.

[1:01:02] We all know it.

[1:01:04] And then there's the garbage pail kids sort of like score theme, like the character theme

[1:01:11] that will play throughout the movie that doesn't have lyrics and isn't the same as the theme

[1:01:15] song.

[1:01:16] And Mancini has the aha moment late in the film.

[1:01:20] It's like the fifth time you cut to him at the piano being like, seas are filled with whales,

[1:01:26] put them back in the pail.

[1:01:27] No, that's not it.

[1:01:29] Like he keeps trying to write a song that he thinks will put them back in and then he starts

[1:01:34] playing the score from the movie as if he knows the music that's playing in his reality for

[1:01:41] the audience watching him.

[1:01:43] And his aha moment is, well, if that's their theme forwards and I need them back in the can,

[1:01:49] then I play it backwards.

[1:01:52] And he brings them all around the can and he's like, now, unfortunately, it's time.

[1:01:57] Explains the whole thing to them.

[1:01:59] You little assholes are going back in the can.

[1:02:01] Right.

[1:02:01] And they're like, ah, we don't want to.

[1:02:03] And he's like, come on now.

[1:02:05] And then he basically says, now stand here like good little garbage pail boys and girls

[1:02:10] while I play this instrumental theme backwards and you go back in.

[1:02:14] And I'll close my eyes the whole time because I'm feeling the music so deeply.

[1:02:19] And that's when they sneak off.

Elliott Kalan

[1:02:22] Yeah.

[1:02:22] And they're like, oh, going back in the can now.

[1:02:24] Oh, see you, buddy.

[1:02:25] Like, they're just, they're really narrating it.

Griffin Newman

[1:02:28] There are all these moments where Manzini, and these are the stretches of dialogue that

[1:02:32] feel written by Newly trying to give the movie some point, where the movie's trying to wrestle

[1:02:36] with like, is the point that we society judge people based on their looks and that's a problem

[1:02:42] and we're the real garbage pail kids?

[1:02:43] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1:02:45] Are garbage pail kids these sort of like-

[1:02:48] It's funny games.

[1:02:48] These demons, are they like the embodiments of our worst traits?

[1:02:52] Like, they are us.

[1:02:53] It's not about us judging them on visuals.

[1:02:55] It's about like, they speak to the inner evils of man, much like Tangerine's behavior does.

[1:03:01] Or is the point that the garbage pail kids are kind of cool and that Manzini is trying to

[1:03:06] just like Henry Doolittle them and make them a little more polite?

[1:03:10] But the main garbage pail kid theme song, similarly, the lyrics cannot decide what the message

[1:03:16] is.

[1:03:18] Here's how the chorus goes.

[1:03:21] If your teacher says you're bad and sends you to the principal, you can be a garbage pail

[1:03:25] kid.

[1:03:26] Uh-huh.

[1:03:26] Okay, so that's sort of saying like, checks out, yeah.

Dan McCoy

[1:03:29] Sort of the Jeff Foxworthy sort of premises being set up, like-

Elliott Kalan

[1:03:34] If you vomit so much that your last name is vomit, you might be a garbage pail kid.

[1:03:40] Yeah.

[1:03:40] If your response to any situation is to fart on the person nearest to you, you may be a

Griffin Newman

[1:03:49] garbage pail kid.

[1:03:49] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[1:03:50] If you go to a restaurant and the waitress says, what would you like to eat?

[1:03:55] And you say, human toes.

[1:03:56] You may be a garbage pail kid.

Stuart Wellington

[1:04:01] I can't believe you're not strutting around the stage.

[1:04:04] Oh, shut up.

Elliott Kalan

[1:04:05] You're right.

[1:04:06] If you're listening to this on the podcast, please imagine that I'm walking back and forth

[1:04:09] on the stage.

Griffin Newman

[1:04:12] So these lyrics are framing it in this sort of way of like, we're all garbage pail kids.

[1:04:17] If you're a kid who has been misunderstood by adults, right?

[1:04:21] Sure, yeah.

[1:04:22] Each of us has a garbage pail kid.

[1:04:22] If your parents say you're dressed like you should be in a carnival, you can be a garbage

[1:04:27] pail kid.

[1:04:28] Like, it's that kind of-

[1:04:29] Right.

[1:04:30] And then the next couple of lines are, it's international, radical, how anything unusual

[1:04:36] ends up like a garbage pail kid.

[1:04:39] Like, now it's a we are the world sort of sentiment.

Elliott Kalan

[1:04:43] It's so easy to be a outsider as a garbage pail kid.

[1:04:46] Yeah.

Griffin Newman

[1:04:47] You think you're all so brave and all so cute, but you don't understand.

[1:04:51] You try to persecute.

[1:04:52] Well, here's a pail and here's a lid.

[1:04:56] You can be a garbage pail kid.

Dan McCoy

[1:04:59] What the fuck does that mean?

[1:04:59] Now it's sort of an en vogue sort of message song.

Griffin Newman

[1:05:05] It's like at odds with itself in real time.

[1:05:07] Yeah.

[1:05:08] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[1:05:09] Well, those are the contradictions that fuel great art.

[1:05:12] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[1:05:12] Well, I mean, it's been said there are two garbage pail kids inside of each one of us.

Dan McCoy

[1:05:19] One of mine is Nedner.

[1:05:21] Get the fuck out of me.

[1:05:22] Yeah.

[1:05:22] Stop peeing.

[1:05:22] Get out of here.

[1:05:23] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[1:05:24] Guys, I actually finished that summary.

[1:05:26] Yeah.

[1:05:27] Yeah.

[1:05:27] Good job, Stuart.

[1:05:29] Thank you.

[1:05:31] Good job, Stuart.

Elliott Kalan

[1:05:32] Oh, that-

[1:05:33] Thanks for doing the bare minimum.

[1:05:34] Oh, no.

[1:05:35] Don't.

[1:05:35] No.

[1:05:36] Don't fart, Stu.

Dan McCoy

[1:05:36] He's doing the fart dance.

Elliott Kalan

[1:05:38] Please, Stu.

[1:05:38] Don't hurt him with your farts.

S7

[1:05:44] Alison Brie was the star of the Netflix series Glow.

S5

[1:05:48] Being a gorgeous lady of wrestling isn't easy.

[1:05:50] Especially when it's time to get in the ring.

S7

[1:05:52] Wrestling is so interesting in that you can't do anything halfway.

[1:05:58] Okay, so now it's time to run at that woman's body and dive over her head first.

[1:06:03] Like, you can't do that halfway.

[1:06:04] You can't do that in slow motion.

Dan McCoy

[1:06:06] Alison Brie on Tights and Fights.

[1:06:08] Max Fun's Perfect Wrestling Podcast.

S5

[1:06:10] Available now.

[1:06:11] And if you don't listen, I'll see you in the ring.

[1:06:16] Hi, this is Bizz.

[1:06:21] And this is the final season of One Bad Mother, a comedy podcast about parenting.

[1:06:27] This is going to be a year of celebrating all that makes this podcast and this community magical.

[1:06:33] I'm so glad that I found your podcast.

[1:06:37] I just cannot thank you enough for just being the voice of reason as I'm trying to figure all of this out.

Elliott Kalan

[1:06:45] Thank you and cheers to your incredible show and the vision you had to provide this space for all of us.

S5

[1:06:50] This is still a show about life after giving life.

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Dan McCoy

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[1:10:26] There's a little behind-the-scenes extra stuff that even you didn't see.

[1:10:30] But, you know, it's one of our live shows.

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[1:10:34] You know, usually, if you listen on the main feed, in addition to only getting, of course, the audio and not the visuals, you don't get our presentations.

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[1:11:16] You can re-watch if you like.

[1:11:17] So, if you're interested, you can get tickets at either stagepilot.com slash baby or flophousepodcast.com slash events.

[1:11:28] And now, back to the show.

[1:11:34] Quickly, quickly, we should say our final judgments on the Garbage Pail Kids movie.

[1:11:39] This is a good, bad movie.

[1:11:41] A bad, bad movie.

[1:11:42] A movie we kind of like.

[1:11:44] I am going to...

[1:11:46] I know...

[1:11:47] Abstain?

[1:11:49] I mean, I do think it is an experience more than a film.

[1:11:54] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1:11:54] It's going to war, yeah.

[1:11:55] An unpleasant one, a baffling one, but one that invigorates.

[1:12:01] And so, I'm going to say...

[1:12:02] It's the movie.

Griffin Newman

[1:12:03] It's like a cold plunge.

[1:12:04] Yeah, yeah.

[1:12:05] Get hit with a birch stick at a rushing...

Dan McCoy

[1:12:07] You wouldn't want to do it all the time, but sometimes you just got to shock the system.

[1:12:11] So, I'm going to say it's a good, bad movie.

[1:12:15] What do you say, Stuart?

Stuart Wellington

[1:12:16] Yeah, I'm with you, Dan.

[1:12:17] This is...

[1:12:19] You know, I had had expectations.

[1:12:21] Elliot had already poisoned the well a little bit by saying it was worse than Nuki, and I'm like, I can't imagine that's possible.

[1:12:28] I think it's a fun, bad movie to watch with friends.

[1:12:32] I would say this is a good, bad movie.

Elliott Kalan

[1:12:33] I think if you were watching it with friends, it could be a good, bad movie.

Stuart Wellington

[1:12:38] More like your family, your two children.

[1:12:40] I think it's hard.

Elliott Kalan

[1:12:42] This is what I was going to say earlier on in the show.

[1:12:44] It is now looking at it from the point of view of a parent and being like, I watched this as a kid,

[1:12:51] and I can only imagine the damage it would do to my sensitive little babies to see this.

[1:12:57] So, judged on its own merits as a film for children, it should be put into a capsule and buried beneath the earth and never let out.

Dan McCoy

[1:13:06] Crushed like a garbage-filled kid.

Elliott Kalan

[1:13:08] But if you're an adult, you're going to watch it with friends and have a drink.

[1:13:11] Sure, it's a good, bad movie.

[1:13:12] Yeah.

Griffin Newman

[1:13:12] You think it should be put into a home for ugly movies.

[1:13:15] Yeah.

[1:13:16] I think this is a great, good movie.

[1:13:19] I think it makes sense and works.

[1:13:27] Just the script writing is impeccable.

Elliott Kalan

[1:13:31] The structure is impeccable, yeah.

Griffin Newman

[1:13:32] No, I think, look, there's a reason I've been pushing this movie on you guys for so long.

[1:13:35] Did this make you uncomfortable, Elliot?

[1:13:37] That's art, buddy.

[1:13:38] That's art.

Elliott Kalan

[1:13:40] That's my fault for being a square.

Griffin Newman

[1:13:43] It holds up a mirror to your face, and that mirror has a Garbage Pail Kids logo above it,

[1:13:48] and your name butchered underneath it, Elliot Mess.

[1:13:52] No, I think I've been trying to get you guys to cover this movie for so long,

[1:13:57] because I think this is like a one-of-one film.

[1:14:00] I think this is like a unique, bad film.

[1:14:04] I think there was no other movie like it in history.

[1:14:07] It feels like just magnets being held in the wrong direction, being forced together.

[1:14:14] Every scene is fighting with itself.

[1:14:16] Every line is fighting with the other lines.

[1:14:18] Every character is in a different movie.

[1:14:21] The Garbage Pail Kids aren't even on the same wavelength with each other.

[1:14:24] I mean, the moment they break into a song in the middle of the movie,

[1:14:27] I'm like, this happens in this?

Elliott Kalan

[1:14:30] It's late to introduce this being a musical.

[1:14:32] Yeah.

[1:14:32] It is, I will say this, it is similar to maybe my favorite movie we've ever done on the Flophouse,

[1:14:38] Cats.

[1:14:39] Yes, yes.

[1:14:39] Because that is another movie where you're watching it, and you're like,

[1:14:42] making a movie, he's making a series of storytelling decisions,

[1:14:45] and they've made every single wrong decision every single time.

[1:14:49] Every time there's been a decision, and there's been a door marked good,

[1:14:52] and a door marked bad, they've been like,

[1:14:54] wouldn't it be more fun to go through the bad door?

Griffin Newman

[1:14:56] But whereas Cats comes out sublime, this comes out, this is the opposite.

[1:15:00] Well, see, I agree with you, and Cats I put into a similar bucket of like,

[1:15:04] it's that thing of if you get every single answer wrong on a test,

[1:15:07] they have to give you 100.

[1:15:09] Yeah, yeah.

[1:15:09] These are movies that shoot the moon, yeah.

[1:15:11] Legally.

[1:15:12] In a certain way, the only way you could be that wrong is to...

[1:15:14] And they also, kids listening at home, they don't have to give you 100 if you get that wrong.

[1:15:18] You can't be that wrong by accident.

[1:15:20] The only way to be that wrong, it defies statistics.

Elliott Kalan

[1:15:23] So it's like that King of the Hill episode.

[1:15:25] Yes.

[1:15:25] Where he needs to have his house not pass the inspection test,

[1:15:28] but he does it so perfectly that the inspector is like,

[1:15:32] whoever did this knows what they're doing.

[1:15:34] Yes.

[1:15:34] Every single rule was broken.

[1:15:36] Good job, yeah.

Griffin Newman

[1:15:37] You can only be this wrong if you know what right is.

[1:15:42] Right?

[1:15:42] This is Miss Griffin, this might be where you and I disagree.

[1:15:46] And it's a movie that makes you like rethink filmic language,

[1:15:50] because at first you might go, well, these pieces don't fit together,

[1:15:54] but you go, but they do because I'm watching it,

[1:15:57] and the movie is continuing.

[1:15:58] It is not breaking down.

[1:16:00] Reality did not end.

[1:16:02] It does.

[1:16:03] We are all still alive.

[1:16:04] Yeah.

[1:16:05] We're talking about it.

[1:16:05] Look.

[1:16:06] Our devices did not catch on fire.

[1:16:08] Right?

[1:16:09] But like, and because of that, it's a very unique experience.

[1:16:12] I want to just sort of read this in summation to sort of say like,

[1:16:15] Yeah, sure.

[1:16:15] There are the two garbage fell kids that live inside of us, right?

[1:16:18] Inside all of us.

[1:16:19] Right, yeah.

[1:16:19] We've been lots of time.

[1:16:20] And this feeds back into my theory that, you know,

[1:16:22] people like to talk about film from an auteurist perspective,

[1:16:24] but of course it's like, it's a collaborative medium, right?

[1:16:27] Yeah.

[1:16:27] That's the beauty of the art.

[1:16:28] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1:16:29] You have someone like Art Spiegelman on the way to winning a Pulitzer for Mouse

[1:16:36] who just goes, let me just doodle off some garbage pail kids,

[1:16:40] and then it takes on a life of its own.

[1:16:42] Yeah, yeah.

[1:16:42] By the way, I met Art Spiegelman once,

[1:16:43] and I asked him if he had ever seen the Garbage Pail Kid movie.

[1:16:48] And he punched you in the face.

[1:16:50] My first and perhaps only question,

[1:16:53] and he said that he went to see it opening weekend with his wife,

[1:16:56] who's another renowned underground cartoonist.

Elliott Kalan

[1:16:59] One of the greatest cartoon editors, too, of all time.

[1:17:01] Yes.

Griffin Newman

[1:17:03] Francoise Mouly.

[1:17:04] Yes, who ran Zap, right?

[1:17:05] Yeah.

[1:17:06] Am I wrong about this?

[1:17:07] What?

[1:17:07] Ran Zap.

[1:17:09] Who?

[1:17:09] The comics anthology.

[1:17:10] His wife, anyway.

[1:17:11] No, no.

[1:17:11] They went to go see it opening weekend,

[1:17:14] and he framed it as,

[1:17:16] I felt like Robert Oppenheimer.

Elliott Kalan

[1:17:19] Wow, so topical.

[1:17:24] I like the existence of the movie so much more,

Griffin Newman

[1:17:26] imagining them going to see this movie.

[1:17:29] Right.

[1:17:30] Like, look, I know I had nothing to do with this movie directly,

[1:17:33] but, like, I created the formula.

[1:17:35] I created what is he in the future.

Dan McCoy

[1:17:37] I like to imagine Art Spiegelman going back to the projection booth,

[1:17:40] like, was this a prank?

[1:17:42] Did you know that I was going to be here,

[1:17:43] and did you know my relationship?

[1:17:45] Did I did this, kind of?

Elliott Kalan

[1:17:47] Now I imagine him, though I imagine him doing the scene from Oppenheimer,

[1:17:50] where he's giving a speech to the other people at Topps about Garbage Pail Kids,

[1:17:54] and he's just hearing the screams of audience members in the background.

[1:17:57] He's losing it as he gives this speech.

Griffin Newman

[1:18:00] In his telling, the only other person in the theater opening weekend was an unhoused man

[1:18:05] who slept through the whole thing.

[1:18:09] But Anthony Newley, who was, I mean, look, we said poor man's Dudley Moore,

[1:18:15] but the guy has some old-school showman charm.

[1:18:17] Sure, yeah.

[1:18:18] He has moments of touching grace.

[1:18:20] He almost sells what he's given.

Elliott Kalan

[1:18:22] Even a poor man's Dudley Moore is a Dudley Moore.

[1:18:24] Right.

[1:18:25] And this is...

[1:18:26] It's not a dinty Moore.

[1:18:27] That would not accomplish things at all.

Griffin Newman

[1:18:29] In my opinion, his finest monologue in the film, if I can just read this.

[1:18:32] Oh, I forgot you had a thing to read.

Elliott Kalan

[1:18:33] I would have said less.

Griffin Newman

[1:18:34] This was all wind up to something.

[1:18:36] Yeah, yeah, yeah, why not?

[1:18:36] We're on stage.

[1:18:38] We all have microphones.

[1:18:39] It's not a holiday.

[1:18:40] He says to Dodger,

[1:18:43] Patience is a bit of wine, dear Dodger, but it bears sweet fruit.

[1:18:47] That's from the Greek.

[1:18:49] Loses a little something in translation.

[1:18:51] Let's add a little sparkle to our merchandise.

[1:18:54] Funny people should call this junk, isn't it?

[1:18:57] When every piece is a diary of the human spirit.

[1:19:00] Take this, for instance, to my darling Mary from Herbert.

[1:19:04] This is more than a book.

[1:19:05] It's a testimony to love.

[1:19:07] And this, ah, did the child who slept with this grow up to shake the world?

Elliott Kalan

[1:19:15] And over here, an early form of air conditioning.

Griffin Newman

[1:19:18] Also a tool of romance.

[1:19:19] It could beckon or rebuff.

[1:19:21] He's holding a paper fan at this point.

[1:19:24] Yeah.

[1:19:24] Yes, I also got rebuffed.

[1:19:27] But like me, this is a relic from a simpler age.

[1:19:30] When good and bad was black and white.

[1:19:32] And a man could settle all his differences with one of these.

[1:19:36] Holds up a fencing sword.

[1:19:37] Hands it to Dodger.

[1:19:39] Then some damn fool invented gunpowder.

[1:19:45] Wait for it.

[1:19:46] Wait for it.

Griffin Newman

[1:19:46] And a bigger damn fool split the atom.

[1:19:51] That's when I decided to leave mankind to its folly.

[1:19:56] And retire here.

[1:19:58] Into this world of memories.

[1:20:00] Now to this point about this film holding multiple realities at once.

[1:20:04] Another line from this same quotes page attributed to girl number two is.

[1:20:09] You want to see a dog wanking off into a garbage pail?

Dan McCoy

[1:20:16] I'm so glad we got that preview of the Anthony Newley and Garbage Pail Kids monologues.

[1:20:23] Your one person show.

Griffin Newman

[1:20:24] I'm doing Mr. Manzini off Broadway.

Elliott Kalan

[1:20:28] You had mentioned that maybe Anthony Newley wrote those lines.

[1:20:32] I think he was just pre-associating.

Dan McCoy

[1:20:34] He was so high.

[1:20:37] So it's very hot in here.

[1:20:40] We've gone long.

[1:20:41] We'll answer five questions from people who line up at that thing.

[1:20:45] And then we'll get out of here.

[1:20:48] Five.

[1:20:49] Yeah.

[1:20:49] All right.

Elliott Kalan

[1:20:50] I'm going to stand up for this part.

[1:20:51] I've been standing for a while.

[1:20:52] That was the most anyone has ever talked about.

[1:20:55] The Garbage Pail Kids movie.

Dan McCoy

[1:20:56] Yeah.

[1:20:57] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[1:20:58] I can't believe you waited that long to tell us that Art Spiegelman story.

[1:21:01] That's amazing.

[1:21:02] Hello.

[1:21:03] Hello.

[1:21:04] Hello.

Stuart Wellington

[1:21:06] Alex, last name withheld from Boston State withheld.

[1:21:10] Okay.

[1:21:10] Good.

[1:21:11] Smart.

[1:21:12] Yeah.

[1:21:13] So if John Waters made this movie, what part do you think he would cast Divine in?

Elliott Kalan

[1:21:20] Oh, you've got to believe Divine's going to be either that big baby or Valerie Vomit, right?

[1:21:28] Or Tangerine.

[1:21:29] Oh, yeah.

[1:21:30] Or, I mean, or the like.

[1:21:31] There's a version where he.

Dan McCoy

[1:21:33] Blythe.

[1:21:33] She could be Mancini, too.

[1:21:35] Yeah, that's true.

Elliott Kalan

[1:21:36] You know what?

[1:21:37] I feel like Divine's playing every part except the kid.

Dan McCoy

[1:21:42] That's the perfect version of this film.

Elliott Kalan

[1:21:43] Yeah, and the kid is like a young Eddie Furlong.

[1:21:45] Something, yeah.

[1:21:45] Yeah.

[1:21:47] Oh, if only.

[1:21:48] Yeah.

[1:21:49] Good question.

[1:21:50] I hope John Waters is listening so he can make it.

[1:21:53] Hi there.

[1:21:54] Ian, last name withheld.

[1:21:55] Hello.

Stuart Wellington

[1:21:56] My question, not Garbage Pail related, but.

[1:21:59] Oh.

[1:22:00] I'm sorry.

Dan McCoy

[1:22:01] I'm sorry.

[1:22:01] Oh, please.

[1:22:02] Please take it.

[1:22:03] Get out of here.

[1:22:04] Take us out of that world.

Stuart Wellington

[1:22:05] It's a simple fuck, marry, kill, and I'm really interested to hear your responses.

[1:22:09] Okay, yeah.

[1:22:10] Simple.

[1:22:11] Let us over again.

Dan McCoy

[1:22:12] Gun to my head.

[1:22:12] Sure, sure, sure.

Stuart Wellington

[1:22:13] Your options are as thus.

[1:22:15] Idris Elba as the djinn from 3,000 Years of Longin.

[1:22:18] Okay.

[1:22:19] Idris Elba as Macavity from Cats.

[1:22:22] Or, last but not least, Idris Elba as Knuckles from Sonic the Hedgehog 2.

[1:22:28] Okay.

[1:22:28] I know which one Dan's going to fuck.

[1:22:30] No.

Dan McCoy

[1:22:32] Mike.

[1:22:33] Goes without saying.

[1:22:35] My cartoon notwithstanding, my presentation before the show, you got to kill Knuckles.

[1:22:42] You fuck Macavity.

[1:22:45] Because, you know, he's committed every human crime, so he knows a few things.

[1:22:50] And then, you got to marry that genie.

[1:22:53] That genie is a great catch.

Elliott Kalan

[1:22:54] Okay, so I'm going to, you marry Knuckles.

[1:22:56] He's hilarious.

[1:22:59] You got to fuck the genie, of course.

[1:23:01] Because he, I'm with magic and stuff.

[1:23:03] You can't have sex in the cavity.

[1:23:05] He has no genitals, Dan.

[1:23:07] We've seen it.

Dan McCoy

[1:23:09] Sex is not just penetration, Ellie.

[1:23:11] There are things that can be done.

Stuart Wellington

[1:23:13] Dan has a series of diagrams who can show you.

Elliott Kalan

[1:23:17] Anyway, I will kill Macavity for committing every human crime.

Stuart Wellington

[1:23:20] Yes.

[1:23:20] Yeah.

[1:23:21] I think that's obvious.

[1:23:23] You kill Macavity.

[1:23:24] You marry the gen.

[1:23:26] Because, I mean, he's just reliable.

[1:23:28] He's there forever.

[1:23:29] Yeah.

[1:23:29] And, yeah, does that, you're going to have to have sex with Knuckles?

[1:23:32] Yes.

[1:23:33] Okay.

[1:23:33] But you got to bring him out.

Dan McCoy

[1:23:36] Thank you for asking that.

[1:23:39] Griffin didn't even get to answer.

Griffin Newman

[1:23:41] I mean, I have a very different answer than you three.

[1:23:45] I would say I fuck Alligator because he's nasty.

[1:23:50] I marry Valerie Vomit because she's nurturing.

[1:23:53] She's nurturing.

[1:23:54] She's nurturing and dependable, yeah.

[1:23:55] And I kill Nat Nerd because he's pathetic and doesn't deserve life.

Dan McCoy

[1:23:59] Oh.

[1:24:00] Oh.

[1:24:01] So sad now.

[1:24:02] Sad.

[1:24:03] I hate him, but.

Elliott Kalan

[1:24:03] Our next question asker was appalled by that answer.

[1:24:07] Yeah.

[1:24:07] Apologies.

[1:24:08] It's a gross man.

S6

[1:24:12] Catherine, last name withheld.

[1:24:14] Also not Garbage Pail Kids related.

[1:24:16] Yay.

[1:24:17] Okay.

[1:24:17] So several years ago, I watched Gangs of New York.

[1:24:20] And Leonardo DiCaprio opened his mouth and spoke in an Irish accent.

[1:24:24] And I went, ew.

[1:24:25] And then several years later, I watched The Departed and thought, oh, great.

[1:24:32] Somebody told him not to do that again.

[1:24:34] So what is the most memorable moment you have of watching a movie you're enjoying and then

[1:24:39] someone speaks in an accent and you go, ew.

Stuart Wellington

[1:24:44] I mean, I would say now I appreciate gross, horrible accent work.

[1:24:51] But I mean, I don't know.

[1:24:52] Like, recent ones, like, the first couple times when Benedict Cumberbatch showed up as

[1:24:57] Doctor Strange with his New York accent, I'm like, what the fuck is happening here?

Griffin Newman

[1:25:02] Stuart, what are you talking about?

[1:25:04] He sounds like a normal American man.

[1:25:07] Well, here in the city that never sleeps.

[1:25:10] Just your average New York magic doctor.

Elliott Kalan

[1:25:14] But you have to admit that the movie never would have worked if he had his normal voice,

[1:25:18] right?

[1:25:19] Like, you never would have bought him as a wizard if he had an English accent.

[1:25:22] That would be crazy.

[1:25:24] I think similarly, there's a voice that I'm going to...

[1:25:28] I love Tom Hardy.

[1:25:29] I love his accents.

[1:25:30] The voice he does as Venom, I feel like I call English guy doing a lower class New York

[1:25:36] accent, where he's like,

[1:25:37] And it always sounds like Marlon Brando doing a bad English accent.

[1:25:44] That rubs me the wrong way.

Stuart Wellington

[1:25:46] I feel like if he heard you say that, he'd be like,

[1:25:48] That's what I was going for.

Elliott Kalan

[1:25:49] He got it.

[1:25:50] The same way, I assume he heard me talking about his Bane voice and how it sounds like

[1:25:53] Tevye from Fiddler on the Roof.

[1:25:55] And he was like,

[1:25:56] Exactly.

[1:25:57] That's what I was going for.

[1:25:59] A Batman on the roof?

[1:26:01] Well, you know.

Dan McCoy

[1:26:03] I've been racking my brain.

[1:26:05] I can't...

[1:26:05] I'm so forgiving of this shit.

[1:26:07] I know that there's some stuff, but like most of the times that people are like,

[1:26:10] What's that?

[1:26:11] I'm like,

[1:26:12] Eh, it's fun.

[1:26:12] They tried.

[1:26:13] I have like a parent's at a kid's recital attitude towards them.

[1:26:18] Eh, you know, they're doing the work.

[1:26:20] Whatever.

Elliott Kalan

[1:26:21] Griffin, you're an actor.

[1:26:22] What do you think about this?

Griffin Newman

[1:26:24] You know, I mean, you brought up Benedict Cumberbatch, but...

[1:26:27] Benedict Cumberbatch, beautiful speaking voice, right?

[1:26:30] Like one of the greatest speaking voices.

[1:26:32] Best voice in the world.

[1:26:33] We have.

[1:26:34] And they announced he was going to play the Grinch in the animated Grinch.

[1:26:37] And I was like, what a slam dunk.

[1:26:39] Like he's sort of like a modern Boris Karloff.

[1:26:42] He has that buttery eloquent...

[1:26:44] Yeah, he was smog.

[1:26:45] And then I saw the trailer and he's like,

[1:26:47] I hate Christmas.

[1:26:51] And there was something about...

[1:26:52] I think I would have reacted negatively to the Grinch sounding like that.

[1:26:56] And you're like, that's our voice.

[1:26:57] Yes.

[1:26:59] That's saved for movie podcasters.

[1:27:01] Not the Grinch.

Elliott Kalan

[1:27:03] It does bother me when you bring in a famous actor to do a voice.

[1:27:07] And they're doing like Chris Pine as a...

[1:27:10] Sorry, Chris Pratt as Mario.

[1:27:12] Yeah.

[1:27:12] Where it's like, there's so many...

[1:27:13] Not Italian enough.

[1:27:15] Not even not Italian enough.

[1:27:17] Why would you bother bringing him in to do a voice that's not really in his wheelhouse

[1:27:21] when that's...

[1:27:21] There's a billion other people who do that voice.

Griffin Newman

[1:27:23] But Cumberbatch is...

[1:27:24] The Grinch is the opposite.

[1:27:26] Where it's like, this is right in your wheelhouse.

[1:27:27] Yeah.

[1:27:28] He's like, I have an idea, actually.

Elliott Kalan

[1:27:29] You know what?

[1:27:30] It's like Nicolas Cage in Peggy Sue Got Married, right?

[1:27:33] Where everyone was like, do not use that voice.

[1:27:36] Give us a take without that voice.

[1:27:37] He's like, nope.

[1:27:38] Like...

Dan McCoy

[1:27:44] Good question.

[1:27:48] Sam, last name withheld.

[1:27:50] So, The Holdovers was a really great movie.

[1:27:53] It is...

[1:27:54] I worked on it.

[1:27:56] Paul Giamatti's performance is sort of Paul Giamatti.

[1:28:00] It is Paul Giamatti-ist.

[1:28:02] Are there any beloved movies you guys have where, you know, one of the actors sort of gives

[1:28:06] their kind of platonic ideal performance?

[1:28:09] That sort of is the default thing you think of.

Elliott Kalan

[1:28:13] For me, my favorite movie of all time, everyone knows I'm on record, The Taking of Palomone

[1:28:17] 2-3.

[1:28:18] Walter Matthau is so Walter Matthau in that.

[1:28:20] And it's...

[1:28:21] Every moment of it is wonderful, except the one moment we all know that's not so wonderful.

[1:28:25] But just that he's like...

[1:28:26] He just seems to be the two sides of Walter Matthau, which is, I don't give a shit about

[1:28:32] whatever I'm doing at this moment.

[1:28:33] And also, I'm so mad and I'm so stressed out at what's happening.

[1:28:37] And that's...

[1:28:37] Yeah.

[1:28:37] Just...

[1:28:38] He doesn't get more Walter Matthau.

[1:28:39] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[1:28:40] Three quarters of us were at the BAM screening of Clifford last night.

Elliott Kalan

[1:28:45] Let me...

[1:28:46] Let me...

[1:28:47] Get away from the fact I did not join you at this Clifford screening.

Dan McCoy

[1:28:51] It was your...

[1:28:51] It was your mistake.

Elliott Kalan

[1:28:52] We were...

[1:28:53] We were talking about scheduling something else and Dan's like, well, of course, there

[1:28:56] is the Clifford screening.

[1:28:57] And I'm like, what are you talking about?

[1:28:59] Like this nationwide...

Stuart Wellington

[1:29:00] Everyone was there.

Elliott Kalan

[1:29:02] Everyone...

[1:29:03] I forgot.

Stuart Wellington

[1:29:03] It crashed the BAM website, Elliot.

[1:29:05] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[1:29:05] I forgot when Joe Biden at the State of the Union said, and I'll see you, America, at the

[1:29:09] Clifford screening at the end.

Dan McCoy

[1:29:11] But one of the great pleasures of it is seeing Charles Grodin, just like really Charles Grodin

[1:29:16] it up and that...

[1:29:17] So good.

[1:29:18] Just being like a slow burn of like utter rage covered with like this false cheer that

[1:29:26] he has to maintain.

[1:29:28] It's just a beautiful thing to watch.

[1:29:31] Like pure Grodin.

Stuart Wellington

[1:29:34] Oh man, I can't really think anything.

[1:29:36] Griffin?

[1:29:37] I was weirdly going to say Grodin in Midnight Run.

[1:29:40] Wow.

[1:29:41] He was a guy who really...

Griffin Newman

[1:29:42] A softer version.

[1:29:43] ...knew how to do his thing really well.

[1:29:45] Yeah.

[1:29:48] That's it.

Dan McCoy

[1:29:50] Stuart tells it how it is.

S7

[1:29:54] Hi, this is Liz, last name withheld, and semi-related to this experience.

[1:30:00] I don't know about calling it a movie, but semi-related to this experience.

[1:30:04] We're sort of in this renaissance right now of not necessarily just animated, but like

[1:30:10] more cartoon stuff being adapted to live action.

[1:30:13] But we haven't really seen the reverse, your animatrixes, so to speak.

[1:30:17] Is there any live action piece of media that you think would be a good fit for the reverse

[1:30:24] setting, so to speak?

[1:30:26] That's a good idea.

Dan McCoy

[1:30:28] Masters of the universe.

[1:30:30] I mean, it's already happened, but like, you know, I think that the Incredibles proved

[1:30:36] that like maybe the best version of a Fantastic Four movie would just do an animated movie.

[1:30:41] But like, there's so many things that, you know, in the last Sonic episode, I was like,

[1:30:47] there's like three CGI characters on screen right now interacting with a big CGI robot.

[1:30:53] Why is this quote-unquote live action?

[1:30:55] Just make it a cartoon.

Elliott Kalan

[1:30:56] And then they could get pregnant, right, Dan?

[1:30:58] I mean, that started, I mean, it started as a cartoon, but...

Griffin Newman

[1:31:02] So it's not exact.

[1:31:03] Make it a cartoon so it can get nice and warm.

[1:31:08] I like to reuse an answer I've said a lot on my own podcast, but like I desperately want

[1:31:14] there to be a like 80s, the whole sort of like Rambo, RoboCop are all on Saturday morning

[1:31:23] TV and you have these kidified versions where no one dies.

[1:31:26] I so badly want the John Wick animated series where it's him and like a squad of talking dogs

[1:31:34] and no bullets were ever fired.

Stuart Wellington

[1:31:38] I mean, I mean, like the, your beloved Fast and Furious franchise would be a perfect animated series.

Griffin Newman

[1:31:44] They've done a series for a couple seasons on Netflix that I would say is the grip and griffin of the Fast and Furious universe

[1:31:51] and how much it sucks.

[1:31:54] It's not that, like, which is what it should be.

[1:31:56] It's, it's Dominic Toretto's nephew and some random kids who like tech a lot.

Elliott Kalan

[1:32:02] I'm not into it.

[1:32:03] No.

[1:32:04] I, uh, I mean, this is kind of a step removed to something else, but they did the Sandman TV show.

[1:32:11] I wish that had been an animated show.

[1:32:12] I think it would have been beautiful.

[1:32:13] I think they would have done some amazing stuff with it.

[1:32:15] And it's not, not beautiful as it is.

[1:32:17] They did a very good job of it.

[1:32:18] But watching it, I was like, oh, if only this was like, if they had done this in a, in a, as a mature animated show, it could have been.

[1:32:25] Well, like Family Guy?

[1:32:26] Yeah, exactly.

[1:32:27] Yeah, you know.

Dan McCoy

[1:32:28] Like, like heavy metal?

[1:32:29] Yeah.

[1:32:30] Like heavy metal?

Elliott Kalan

[1:32:31] Yeah.

[1:32:32] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[1:32:32] I mean, it'd be like heavy metal if heavy metal wasn't bad.

[1:32:34] Yeah, sure.

Dan McCoy

[1:32:35] But I mean, like, I mean, particularly this.

[1:32:37] Shots fired, shots fired, bam, bam.

[1:32:38] Oh, I think there's some good stuff in there.

[1:32:40] Yeah.

[1:32:41] At this, like, post-Spiderverse time, too, where like, we're getting away from like, oh, all cartoons that are theatrical released look kind of the same.

[1:32:47] They don't have to look Disney Don Bluth.

Elliott Kalan

[1:32:48] They don't have to look photorealistic Romeo and Juliet style.

[1:32:51] Yeah.

[1:32:52] Like they, like that they could do.

Griffin Newman

[1:32:54] Photorealistic Gnomeo and Juliet.

[1:32:57] Those gnomes.

[1:32:58] That is your example for photorealism?

[1:33:01] Yeah, I have seen that movie.

[1:33:03] That's not how I would describe it.

Elliott Kalan

[1:33:05] Right.

[1:33:06] I guess you don't live in a world of magic and whimsy.

Griffin Newman

[1:33:09] Like, I wasn't watching that movie going, where did they shoot this?

Elliott Kalan

[1:33:13] What lenses did they use?

[1:33:15] I'm so used to see, I'm so used to-

[1:33:16] Can I meet that gnome?

Stuart Wellington

[1:33:17] I'm so used to Elliot just talking that most of it just slides over me, Griffin.

[1:33:20] I'm like, I'm not gonna challenge it because I don't want to know the answer.

Griffin Newman

[1:33:24] As an American paid full ticket price to see Gnomeo and Juliet opening weekend, I must take a stand against this.

Stuart Wellington

[1:33:31] I cannot let that statement flow by.

[1:33:33] I will retract that example.

[1:33:35] Is that part of the Sherlock Gnomes universe or is that different?

[1:33:38] That's the sequel.

[1:33:39] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[1:33:41] But anyway, yeah, I would love to see a Sandman anime thing.

[1:33:44] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[1:33:46] Thank you so much.

[1:33:47] And also, thanks to all of you for bearing with far more talk about the Garbage Pail Kids movie than any rational human being should ever have to.

[1:33:57] No.

[1:33:59] Thank you again.

[1:34:00] Thank you to the Bell House.

[1:34:01] For the Floppers, I've been Dan McCoy.

[1:34:03] I'm Stuart Wellington.

[1:34:04] I'm Elliot Kalin.

Griffin Newman

[1:34:05] And this is...

Dan McCoy

[1:34:06] Gryp and Griffin Newman.

Griffin Newman

[1:34:08] Woo!

[1:34:09] Thank you so much.

[1:34:10] Thank you for coming.

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Ep.#430 - The Garbage Pail Kids Movie, LIVE, with Griffin Newman!

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