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FH Mini 109 - The Chop House
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Hey everybody, welcome to The Flophouse.
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This week it's another Flophouse Mini.
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That's right, on a normal episode we cover a bad movie, we talk about it, maybe sometimes
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we like it, maybe sometimes the movie's not that bad.
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We love to have our preconceived notions challenged so we can grow as people, but that's not what
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we're going to be doing this week.
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Instead, we're going to be doing something silly, because that's what we do on Flophouse
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Minis, is silly stuff.
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Just doing a goofy one.
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Just doing a goofy one.
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Yeah, one for us.
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Just one for us, and also for anyone else who likes nonsense.
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My name, of course, is Elliot Kalin, and I am in the pilot's seat for this one.
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My co-pilots, as always when I'm in the pilot's seats, are my best buds, whose names are...
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Dan McCoy.
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And I'm sitting on Dan McCoy's lap.
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My name is Stuart Wellington.
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Yeah, unfortunately there are only two seats in the cockpit of this episode.
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I apologize.
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It's amazing that we can both get picked up by the mic so well when you're blocking me.
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Mike is very strong.
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I can hold up both of you at the same time.
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Yeah, that's the thing.
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Yeah.
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Hey, guys.
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This is a human chair.
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It's a new franchise that Pixar is working on called Chairs, where it's human chairs.
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Oh, that was going to be...
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It was the new Marvel movie, Human Chair.
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Captain America's like, the only way to defeat Red Skull is if I had a place to sit.
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I like the idea that Pixar is doing a movie about human chairs.
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Like, it's done so many movies about inanimate objects.
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Well, that was the thing.
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They were going to make toys, human toys, but the animation just wasn't there yet.
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It wasn't.
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Yeah.
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They were going to make human cars, but again, animation wasn't there yet.
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They were going to have fully photorealistic faces on that shit.
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Human cars.
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Yeah.
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The mind boggles.
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We all remember when they announced Human Monsters University, and then that, again,
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also got changed.
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Guys, we're talking about...
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Those are all movies we're talking about because we love movies.
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I'm a lover of movies, too.
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But there's another thing I love in addition to movies, and it starts with the same letter.
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And that thing is meat.
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Yes, meat.
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I love chowing down on the dead flesh of what was once a living animal.
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I just like it.
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I'm sorry.
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I know it's not good morally.
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I know it's not good for the earth.
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I know it's not good for my health, but I just like it.
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I love the texture.
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I love the taste.
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I love the action.
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I love thinking of, you know, whose life am I ingesting right now and what memories of
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being a chicken or a pig or a cow will I take into me?
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The most alienating way to introduce this idea.
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Oh, yeah.
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Anyway, so I'm...
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The thing is, being a lover of movies and being a lover of meat, I am particularly attuned
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to those times when those things go together, when they collide, when meat is in the movies.
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And so meat in the movies is something...
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Meat's on the menu.
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Yeah, meat's...
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Oh, Dan, you're getting...
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Yeah, exactly that.
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He's in there.
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He's in the spirit.
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It's something we'll be exploring on today's episode of The Chop House, the only podcast
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devoted to meat on film.
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That's right.
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Looks like meat is back on the menu, boys.
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Cue that theme song.
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Click, click, click, click, click, click.
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Meat on film.
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Da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
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Meat on film.
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Da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
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Meat on film.
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Dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee.
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Meat on film.
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Doo-doo-doo-doo.
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That's a sound alike.
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That's a sound alike, so you don't have to...
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It's a sound not quite alike.
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Yeah.
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So welcome to this episode of The Chop House.
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Today, we are looking at the legends of cinema meat.
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My picks for the top 10 best moments of meat on film.
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The top 10 best times we saw meat in the movies.
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Now, I know what you guys are going to say.
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Technically, it's true.
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People are also meat.
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We are made of meat.
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I have ruled out living human meat for this list because it would have unfairly dominated
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the selection process.
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There's just too many good moments of movies that are about people, you know, where people
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appear on screen.
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Name one.
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Now that I'm on the spot, I'm having trouble with it.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I guess when Julie Roberts says, big mistake.
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Okay.
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In Pretty Woman.
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Yes.
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Good one.
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Speaking of meat, the two of them, man, smoking hot.
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That's like...
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Talk about a meat cute.
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That's like peak human appearance.
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I don't know.
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No cuter meat than someone soliciting.
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A hot, generous daddy.
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So this is...
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None of the preceding opinions are expressed as the viewpoint of Shop House.
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Those are all Stewart's personal opinions.
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Thanks for distancing yourself.
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So we're not going to talk about human living meat.
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I've also made the decision not to include scenes where people are being served as meat
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or where we know that meat is people.
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So that means, unfortunately, we're going to be ignoring a ton of movies out there,
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a ton of great movies, Sweeney Todd, Delicatessen, Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2, Motel Hell, Soylent
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Green, Titus, a lot of movies where people get eaten by other people.
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Alive.
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Yeah.
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We're not going to talk about those ones right now.
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So we're going to talk about meat as meat, meat as a meal, meat that gets eaten or maybe
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doesn't get eaten because of something that happens to it.
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Do you guys, before we get into the top 10, do you have any thoughts?
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Are there any ones that you hope show up there?
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Or do you not want to mention any because you're afraid of spoiling my list?
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Because meat does spoil if you leave it out long enough.
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I mean, there's so many great food movies out there.
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But honestly, I'm drawing kind of a blank on the great meat moments.
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So I'm curious to see what...
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You can't beat the meat?
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Let's see.
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Dan's having trouble beating the meat.
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First time that's ever been said.
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What like, you know, like Big Night is in there.
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What are some other good meaty movies?
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Well, let's say rather than...
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Hamburger, the motion picture.
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No, there's not hamburger, the motion picture.
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No, eating rolls, again, human meat.
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We're not doing that one.
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Meat the Fockers.
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No, that's a homonym.
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That's a different word that sounds the same but means something different.
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That's what a fucking homonym is.
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Jesus, the fucking crosswords are killing me, guys.
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You got mixed up with hominid, which is like an early ancestor of a person.
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Yeah, I think I was.
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So guys, I'm going to...
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Let's get into it, shall we?
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I'm going to share a little presentation with you called
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Top 10 Meats in the Movies.
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And maybe we'll put these visuals up later online.
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No, don't even describe them.
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We just put them in.
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This is just for us.
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I was astounded by...
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There was some production value.
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Elliot, you know, took over the screen.
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Did a screen share.
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Suddenly, there's a PowerPoint in front of us.
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And what does it say, Dan?
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I'm excited.
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Top 10 Meats in the Movies.
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You're right, and we're going to do exactly that.
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With no flourish, just normal font.
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Yes, because this is classic and dignified.
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So let's go to the first segment, which is called Honorable Meatschins.
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Elliot, I wanted to say this earlier.
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These are things that didn't quite make it onto the list.
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Yes, Dan?
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This wasn't spaced, but now I have to.
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I admire that your devotion to the pun is so strong
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that it doesn't have to be a good pun that sounds like the thing.
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You just like it.
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Not at all.
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I just like sticking words inside of other words.
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Smashing them together.
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Language is a toy in my hands.
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It's something I like to play with.
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I'm like a modern-day Shakespeare that way.
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Yes, exactly.
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So, Honorable Meatschins.
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This is where we're talking about some great, let's say questionably meat things
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that appeared in the movies, but I felt like didn't make it on the list.
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Number one, of course, live octopus in Oldboy from 2003.
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He just walks into that restaurant.
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He just slurps up a whole live octopus.
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Unfortunately, that is seafood.
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It doesn't really count to the hardcore gourmands as meat.
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So it can't make it onto the list, but it's a great moment.
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Someone eating a living animal, which you don't see a lot in movies.
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It's horrifying.
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It's maybe the most terrifying thing in the whole movie, and there's a lot in there.
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Now, moving on to the next one.
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Dan, I know you were probably going to mention this one.
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It's the plesiosaur steak from The Lands That Time Forgot from 1974.
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You know me so well, I guess.
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You're just texting me about that.
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They shoot a plesiosaur, and the next scene is it being served as a steak
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to the assembled explorers.
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Again, it's a marine reptile.
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I couldn't figure out if it was seafood or not.
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Now, Elliot, when you watch this, are you so curious what that tastes like?
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He is a dino and beast fan.
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This is why I wanted it on the list so badly.
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I've always wondered what dinosaurs taste like.
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I've always wanted to know.
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They're related to chickens, but their meat seems to be more like red meat.
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So are they more like beef, or are they more like chicken, or are they more like pork?
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We will never know.
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That's the question.
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We will never know the answer to.
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Mammoth meat, we know what that's like because it's been frozen.
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They've eaten some of it.
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It tasted terrible apparently, but dinosaurs, we'll never know what they tasted like.
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Imagine.
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Is it all like freezer-burned and shit?
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It was freezer-burned.
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It was frozen for thousands of years, yeah.
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It has to be.
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Lean and gamey is a large part of the answer, I would assume.
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I don't like gamey.
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I like gamey too.
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I don't think gamey is not an insult to me.
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There's some funk in your meat, you know?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, I mean, Stewart's all about games, so yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think it's – so we'll never know, but that's another honorable mention.
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Finally, the final honorable mention is –
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I thought it was honorable Meachins, Elliot.
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Sorry.
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The final – thank you.
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The final honorable Meachin, thank you, are the suspended sausages from Freddy Got Fingered
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in 2001.
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This is undeniably meat.
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They are sausages, and it's a lot of meat, so I had to include it.
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But I left it off the main list because I find it so unpleasant.
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I find it so incredibly unpleasant to watch and think about.
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Of all the things in Freddy Got Fingered, like to me, this is the most purely funny.
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I thought you were going to be mad that all that meat was not getting eaten.
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It was going to be wasted, which I don't appreciate.
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As sort of an art project to annoy Riptorn.
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I have no problem with killing an animal and eating it, but killing it to waste the meat,
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I don't like that.
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I find the scene very unpleasant for a number of reasons, but I had to have it in there.
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It's an iconic meat moment in cinema.
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You had to, yeah.
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But it's not one of the top ten.
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Gun to your head.
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Conan was standing behind your back, ready to slice off your head if you didn't include it.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Now, guys, we're done with the honorable Meachins.
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Let's get to the main courses, this ten course.
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Thank you.
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meat meal, let's get to the m-m-m-meat with number 10, you guessed it, the meat monster
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from John Geyer's The Eng from 2001.
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This is a movie that I saw in the theaters and I don't remember what happens in it except
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for this meat monster.
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So clearly it made a huge impression on me.
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It's a kind of poltergeist, I guess, like a figure made out, like a human figure made
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out of meat, raw meat.
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And it's just a great use of meat on film.
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You don't see this a lot where the meat gets to be the bad guy or the monster in something.
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Guys, what do you think?
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Stuart, you and I saw this together, right?
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This was, we saw this as part of a double feature.
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It was with this and the original Phantasm because this was directed by Don Cascarelli
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and he was there and did a little Q&A.
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I was at that same screening with you guys.
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I was at that too.
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That's what I couldn't remember whether, I know Stuart lodged my mind because he's such
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a Don Cascarelli freak, but I couldn't remember whether you were also there.
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I thought probably because you're still in town.
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I don't remember anything about it either, honestly.
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I read the book, John Dive's Weekend.
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I saw this movie.
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I don't recall it.
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But you remember that meat monster, right?
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I think I read the sequel as well.
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This book is full of spiders?
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Yes.
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Yeah, I did too.
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And I also don't recall.
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I mean, I enjoyed them.
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I'm, this is not a slam against those books.
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It's more a statement about my-
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Do you smoke a lot of weed, everybody?
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Well, there's that, but also I just never had a good memory.
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Well, I think it seems like you don't have a good memory because you've forgotten that
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we've got nine more of these to go through.
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So let's keep moving, shall we?
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Instead of just going down that rabbit hole.
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Dan's basically just setting himself up to get caught in like a three card money hustle
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every time he goes out on the street.
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Harsh taskmaster.
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Yes, exactly.
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Number nine.
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This is another one I think you guys are going to remember and you're going to know that's
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right.
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It's maybe the most meat I can think of seeing on screen at once.
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The truck full of pork from Road Games from 1981.
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Now, I'll admit the meat here is glorified set dressing.
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It doesn't do much, but it gets a lot of screen time.
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Or should I say scream time because it's a scary movie?
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You should say that, yeah.
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Yeah.
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I just realized what number one is going to be already.
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I'm sure you know what number one is.
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Oh, I think I do now.
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Don't say it, but I know you can guess it.
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If the fans don't guess it, then I'm disappointed in them.
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But guys, what do you think about the Road Games meat?
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Again, you don't see a lot.
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It doesn't do a lot, but it's in a lot of scenes.
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You know, they're constantly checking the meat.
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Yeah, and it's a symbol for the fate of poor people getting murdered.
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I don't.
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Yeah.
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I don't want to.
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I guess this is a spoiler, but it's not much of a plot spoiler.
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It doesn't the end showdown happen amongst the meat.
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That's what I recall, at least.
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I don't.
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Yeah, maybe.
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I don't remember it well enough.
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I'm having a real John dies at the end moment here.
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I don't remember too much else.
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I don't.
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Yeah, I don't remember much about the meat.
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I do remember that this was, I think, the first Richard Franklin movie that I saw, knowing
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that it was a Richard Franklin movie.
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I saw, you know, Cloak and Dagger a lot as a kid, but like with my eye out for like,
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I think I'd just seen the oscillation documentary.
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And this one, this is a lot of fun.
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You know, like if you're ever like, what if rear window was on the highway in Australia
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was in trucks?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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This is a good one.
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So Road Games, we recommend it.
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I don't think you guys are going to recommend the next movie, but maybe you will.
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It's probably a favorite yours.
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I don't know.
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It's one of the earliest meat movies that I could find, but I had to include it.
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This is strange that this one is less unsettling to me than the sausages in Freddy Got Fingered
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because this is the wall of sausages in the movie Dog Factory.
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Now this is from 1904.
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This is a short in which they, these men have a patent dog transformator and there's, there's
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sausages on the walls that are labeled with different types of dogs.
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And throughout the movie you see people taking dogs, putting them in the machine on one end
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and sausages come out.
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And then later they put sausages in the machine and live dogs come out.
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So it is a machine that can turn dogs into sausages and vice versa.
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It's from 1904.
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This was Edwin S. Porter, I believe one of the earliest film directors to really have
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his name attached to movies in the United States.
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And guys, tell me about your memories of Dog Factory.
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I actually do think I've seen this.
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I find the idea very alarming, like, well, I mean, it's alarming enough that like obviously
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turning dogs into sausages suggests that you are going to like eat those dogs and you
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know.
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I mean here they're just, they seem to be positing that it's just a good way to store
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them.
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It's good.
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Yeah.
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Transformation.
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Like, I mean, but you know, someone might eat them by accident.
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Who knows?
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I like, I, as you know, how often do you accidentally eat sausages?
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I mean, I'm not saying that the actual consumption, I slipped, it fell in my mouth, is an accident.
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I squirted mustard all over it.
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Surprising number of videos like that.
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If someone might be like, hmm, some delicious sausage, I will eat this sausage without knowing
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that they are consuming man's best friend.
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That alone is disturbing, but also the idea that one would transform sausages back into
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a dog.
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I'm just wondering about the mental state of the person who is like, this is the.
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Dan, this is one of several early silent comedy shorts where dogs are turned into sausages.
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I think this might be the only one where sausages are turned back into dogs.
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So this is the least, because at least here, it's not a one way ride, you know, but maybe
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it's.
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I feel like Yorgo's crib from this for poor things.
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Now guys, so let's move past that.
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It's a little unsettling, a little unpleasant.
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I think sometimes cinema is out to shock or to force us to question our assumptions about
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things.
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So I think that's OK.
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But not all movies have to be kind of like beautiful bedtime stories that lull you into
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complacency.
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But let's go to one that I think maybe fits that bill a little bit more for you.
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Number seven, the rat from whatever happened to Baby Jane that Betty Davis serves to Joan
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Crawford as a form of psychological torture.
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We can see it.
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It's a dead rat lying on not cooked and not even shaved or butchered, lying on top of
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a bed of lettuce and tomatoes and on a beautiful platter on a silver tray.
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And Joan Crawford is not enjoying it all.
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Yes.
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I don't even I don't even see any lettuce there.
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What I see is like just a bed of sliced beefsteak tomatoes, which to me, like I think there's
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a little bit of lettuce beyond the tomatoes.
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Maybe I can see it a little better because it's on my screen.
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Maybe I'm wrong.
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That's just what it is.
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But like I was thinking, obviously, the rat is what makes this the most disturbing.
[16:18]
But I find it immeasurably more distressing that it is just on like just sliced tomatoes
[16:25]
and nothing else, just like a platter of sliced tomatoes.
[16:29]
That's gross to me.
[16:30]
I don't know.
[16:31]
It reminds I was just in kind of recently I was in Barcelona and we went on this winery
[16:37]
tour and there is a like a promised snack as part of the tour.
[16:41]
So all of the Americans on the tour like sit down at this table and they basically just
[16:45]
give us bread and like tomatoes and they're like, a local snack is to cut a tomato in
[16:50]
half and just rub it on the bread with olive oil.
[16:53]
Exactly.
[16:54]
And which is great.
[16:55]
But there's just something very funny about the idea of like, yeah, you just rub the tomato
[16:58]
on the bread.
[16:59]
It's I mean, it's a little thing is good.
[17:02]
I mean, it's great.
[17:03]
I mean, you know, especially if you rub some garlic on there beforehand, but like it is
[17:07]
weird to be like, and now you do the tomato rubbing.
[17:11]
Well, sorry, I interrupted you earlier.
[17:13]
No, no.
[17:14]
To promise that as a snack seems I mean, but would it would it bother you more or less?
[17:18]
Oh, I feel so exotic.
[17:19]
Would it bother you more or less if instead of rubbing a tomato on bread, they were rubbing
[17:24]
the tomato on a rat?
[17:25]
Or a rat on the tomato.
[17:27]
Or rat on the tomato.
[17:28]
Or rat on the bread.
[17:29]
Well, Dan was saying his problem was more of the tomato.
[17:32]
I was right.
[17:33]
There was more.
[17:34]
There were slices of bread with this rat didn't be like, you know, down, very amplified by
[17:39]
the idea that they just she just sliced up a tomato.
[17:44]
I mean, I mean, just that she put she had any sort of garnish setting for the rat at
[17:48]
all, I think is putting more work into it than she exactly.
[17:51]
I think that's what it is.
[17:52]
Now, some will say that this is a bad choice, that rat isn't meat.
[17:56]
The way the planet is going.
[17:57]
Rat is going to be meat.
[17:58]
Sorry, everybody.
[17:59]
It's going to happen.
[18:00]
So hey, oops.
[18:02]
Do you hear that?
[18:03]
Do you hear that cowbell or other meat related sound?
[18:05]
Yeah, I sure do.
[18:07]
Sounds like it's time for a little mini segment focusing specifically on B movies.
[18:11]
You guessed it.
[18:12]
Movies where beef makes an appearance.
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The B for beef movie.
[18:16]
This segment, of course, is brought to you by they've brought to you by America's cattle
[18:19]
ranchers who remind you and I quote, this is what they told me to read for the podcast.
[18:23]
They wrote they told me to say eating beef is the only thing between us and total socialist
[18:27]
demolition of our beloved freedoms.
[18:28]
So that's a message from America's cattle ranchers.
[18:32]
The first one, you know, you maybe had an idea what it might be.
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It's beef.
[18:37]
It's probably gonna be steak of some kind.
[18:38]
Let's take a look.
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Yes, that's right.
[18:40]
It is the overcooked steak from Raging Bull from 1980.
[18:43]
Robert De Niro's character, Jake Lamato's wife is cooking steak for him and he is harassing
[18:48]
her over how much she's overcooking it.
[18:50]
They argue with each other and she picks it up on a fork, walks out of the kitchen and
[18:53]
slams it down on the plate, leading him to overturn the table.
[18:56]
Now, here's the thing.
[18:58]
That's where the name of the movie comes from, right?
[19:00]
Because the overcooked steak is like a Raging Bull.
[19:03]
Exactly.
[19:04]
People talk a lot about De Niro's amazing physical transformation in this movie.
[19:09]
What gets overlooked is the similarly amazing physical transformation of the steak to look
[19:13]
so overcooked that that steak was in the makeup chair for hours to get that that kind of unhealthy
[19:20]
char on it.
[19:21]
All the aesthetics.
[19:22]
It doesn't get a lot of screen time, but it really does look overcooked.
[19:26]
That's just the length that that steak went to.
[19:28]
So, yeah, the title Raging Bull does refer to the refers to the cow, the bull that the
[19:33]
steak was made from and how mad it is that it's also overcooked and it takes over Jake
[19:37]
Lamato's body in that scene.
[19:38]
And that's why he overturns the table.
[19:40]
Yeah, exactly.
[19:41]
He's possessed by a by a evil steak.
[19:43]
Yeah.
[19:44]
Yeah.
[19:45]
Yeah.
[19:46]
Now, oh, wait a minute, guys.
[19:48]
This B movie segment.
[19:49]
Oh, we've never seen this before.
[19:51]
This is new.
[19:52]
We've never seen this in the Chophouse.
[19:53]
Two movies listed at number five.
[19:55]
At number five, there are two movies, two different steak movies.
[19:58]
It's a T-Bone time.
[20:00]
Holy moly guys, we've never seen it before.
[20:04]
There's nothing in here that says you can't have a tie for number five.
[20:07]
You're right, we didn't think of that rule. We'll pass a rule later.
[20:10]
There's a tie for number five, a T-bone tie. Alex, play that T-bone tie sound please.
[20:14]
T-bone tie!
[20:18]
First up, of course, we've got, oh, that's right, it's the floor beefsteak
[20:22]
from the man who shot Liberty Valance 1962.
[20:24]
There's a steak that gets knocked on the floor.
[20:27]
Lee Marvin and John Wade argue over who's going to pick it up,
[20:30]
and they're going to shoot each other over it.
[20:32]
And then Jimmy Stewart gets in and starts yelling at him.
[20:34]
He'll pick it up, and he picks it up off the plate.
[20:36]
He picks it up off the floor, and he slaps it onto the plate and starts to fall off again,
[20:39]
and he has to slap it on a second time.
[20:41]
It is a big steak. This is an Old West-style steak.
[20:45]
No wonder it made it to number five.
[20:47]
It's a tense moment in a great movie that revolves around a steak.
[20:50]
Guys, how familiar are you with this scene?
[20:52]
I saw the man who shot Liberty Valance once a long time ago.
[20:57]
Loved it. Been meaning to revisit, but do not remember the steak scene, I got to say.
[21:02]
Wow. Okay, well, Stewart, are you familiar with it?
[21:04]
I've never seen the man who shot Liberty Valance.
[21:06]
I find Westerns to be too scary.
[21:10]
You're afraid that a fight over steak could end in bloodshed.
[21:14]
Especially this one. There's a lot of yelling, a lot of loud noises.
[21:16]
The noise of the steak slapping against the plate, very loud.
[21:19]
And Jimmy Stewart coming in being like,
[21:22]
No, you're going to eat the steak now.
[21:26]
Kind of. That is kind of what happens, yeah.
[21:28]
It sounds just like him.
[21:29]
Especially because John Wayne and Jimmy Stewart are both older than they should be
[21:32]
for the roles that they're playing, so there's an old man Jimmy Stewart in it.
[21:35]
Okay, that steak is big.
[21:37]
Let me tell you, it's got nothing on our other number five.
[21:39]
The other half of this T-bone tie is an even bigger steak.
[21:42]
You probably guessed it. That's right.
[21:43]
It's the old 96er from the great outdoors.
[21:45]
The enormous 96-ounce steak that John Candy,
[21:48]
he'll get it for free if he eats it all in one sitting.
[21:50]
That's from 1988.
[21:51]
We get to see it both raw in the meat locker, hanging up there,
[21:54]
and cooked on the plate, and it is enormous.
[21:57]
This is a huge steak. It's 96 ounces.
[21:59]
Now do you think they're weighing the bone?
[22:01]
They must be, right?
[22:02]
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[22:03]
That's astonishing.
[22:04]
That's how restaurants trick you.
[22:06]
Yeah, do you guys think either of you would be able to chow down
[22:09]
and just slurp up that old 96er and win the competition?
[22:13]
Perhaps as a younger, less wise man, but certainly not today.
[22:18]
That's causing me physical pain to look at.
[22:21]
Not today.
[22:22]
Oh, I got to call them up and tell them not to deliver that steak today.
[22:25]
You know, I want to say, in contrast, in direct context.
[22:28]
Yeah, and now that Joey Chestnut's out of the game, Dan,
[22:30]
you could take his spot as the Coney Island King.
[22:34]
I am so disturbed by the idea of food eating contests.
[22:38]
I am not a fan.
[22:40]
I find it both a symbol of pointless gluttony and grotesque,
[22:45]
a perversion of man's relationship to food.
[22:48]
But that's another story.
[22:50]
I just wanted to say that in contrast to the man who shot Liberty Balance,
[22:53]
which I saw in its entirety once,
[22:55]
I'm not sure I've ever seen the great outdoors in its entirety,
[22:58]
but I've seen bits and pieces of it several times.
[23:02]
Sure, just the nude scenes.
[23:04]
Nude scenes of the great outdoors?
[23:06]
No, I mean the steak isn't wearing anything.
[23:08]
And, Stuart, I'm sure you've seen the great outdoors at some point, right?
[23:11]
Yeah, yeah, yeah. This and Funny Farm were like concert rotation for me.
[23:14]
Yeah, those were ones that were played a lot in our house also.
[23:16]
Hey, wait, great outdoors, was that the sheep testicles or is that—
[23:19]
No, that's Funny Farm.
[23:20]
That's Funny Farm.
[23:21]
Oh, man.
[23:22]
Yeah, so that's—
[23:24]
A four-star review from Roger Ebert, by the way, for Funny Farm.
[23:28]
He's an unusual man.
[23:30]
I was just listening to a podcast with Quentin Tarantino
[23:32]
where he's going on and on about how much he loves Funny Farm,
[23:34]
what a great movie he thinks it is.
[23:36]
I haven't seen it since I was a kid, so I don't know.
[23:38]
But we're not talking about Funny Farm.
[23:39]
Those sheep testicles, maybe they could have made it onto this list
[23:41]
if it had 11 slots on it.
[23:43]
Unfortunately, it just didn't quite have what the truck full of meat,
[23:47]
the meat monster, and dog factory have.
[23:49]
So, guys, rounding out our B movies, that's beef movies segment,
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there's only one classic moment of cinema.
[23:54]
It could possibly be one kind of towering beef performance.
[23:59]
It's so memorable, so iconic, so charismatic,
[24:03]
Oh, yeah.
[24:05]
It really does.
[24:18]
It's just that, like, there's a moment in your life
[24:22]
when you realize that things are made possible
[24:25]
through the magic of cinema, and this is one of those moments for me.
[24:29]
A hamburger singing about how everybody wants to play
[24:32]
a classic fucking Eddie V taped-up guitar.
[24:34]
It's so sick.
[24:36]
I love this moment so much, and I think we've talked about it before,
[24:39]
but we have to talk about it again.
[24:41]
I love it so much because it has absolutely nothing to do
[24:45]
with anything that is happening in that movie.
[24:48]
No, it's never mentioned again.
[24:50]
Otherwise, very tightly plotted.
[24:52]
I mean, but, like, usually the gags have at least some association
[24:55]
with the main plot, but here it's just like,
[24:58]
hey, let's check in on John Cusack at his fast food job.
[25:02]
He is going to scream to the heavens for some reason,
[25:05]
and then a claymation hamburger is going to sing a song.
[25:08]
It's such a weird movie because I feel like a lot of people
[25:11]
grew up with Better Off Dead, either seeing it on home video
[25:14]
or watching it all the time on TV.
[25:16]
I didn't see this until I was, like, an adult,
[25:19]
and it was one of those things where I'm watching.
[25:21]
I feel like we all have movies like that where, like,
[25:24]
you're watching and you're like, I feel like this movie's always been a part of me.
[25:27]
Like, every moment of this movie makes sense to me on some level.
[25:31]
Yeah, this is one that I didn't see until I was in college.
[25:35]
And so I didn't see it as a kid at all, but I had seen –
[25:38]
so Savage Steve Holland, the director of this –
[25:40]
Did you see One Crazy Summer when you were a kid?
[25:42]
No, I still haven't seen One Crazy Summer.
[25:44]
I don't know what made that summer so crazy.
[25:46]
There were zombies and stuff. I don't know.
[25:48]
Well, I think it's time to watch it.
[25:50]
You've got a family movie night coming up, right?
[25:52]
That's what I should do.
[25:53]
Why don't you pop some corn and watch One Crazy Summer?
[25:55]
But I was familiar with Steve Holland's work on the show Eek the Cat.
[25:59]
I did watch that show when it was on, on Fox Saturday mornings.
[26:03]
So to me, he's the Eek the Cat guy who also happened to make some movies before.
[26:06]
But this rock-and-roll hamburger, that's going to round out our B movies segment,
[26:09]
and that means it's time to take a short break.
[26:11]
You're going to hear some sponsor spots,
[26:13]
and then we're going to come back for the top three meet-in-the-movies moments.
[26:17]
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[26:26]
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[26:28]
This week on Bullseye, Dan Aykroyd talks to me about the Blues Brothers,
[26:32]
Ghostbusters, and his very detailed plans about how he'll spend his afterlife.
[26:38]
I think I'm going to roam in a few places, yes.
[26:41]
I'm going to manifest and roam.
[26:43]
All that and more on the next Bullseye from MaximumFun.org and NPR.
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This is Janet Varney.
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I'm here to remind you that listening to my podcast,
[27:03]
The JV Club with Janet Varney, is part of the curriculum for the school year.
[27:08]
Learning about the teenage years of such guests as Alison Brie,
[27:12]
Vicki Peterson, John Hodgman, and so many more,
[27:15]
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[27:18]
one you have no choice but to embrace.
[27:21]
Because, yes, listening is mandatory.
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The JV Club with Janet Varney is available every Thursday on Maximum Fun
[27:28]
or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Thank you.
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And remember, no running in the halls.
[27:37]
Hey there, it's Dan.
[27:39]
There's not really a ton to promote this week,
[27:41]
so I'm going to keep it super brief.
[27:44]
If you missed the premiere of Three Men and a Hallie,
[27:48]
our stage pilot show that featured one Ms. Hallie Hagland,
[27:53]
you can still watch it until the 18th, midnight on the 18th.
[27:57]
I believe that's midnight Eastern time.
[28:00]
But why risk it?
[28:02]
If you're interested, tickets are still available.
[28:04]
You can go to stagepilot.com slash baby.
[28:08]
Also, coming up very soon,
[28:11]
we are going to announce our new season of Flop TV.
[28:17]
And, you know, we're going to announce it on August the 14th.
[28:20]
Why?
[28:21]
Because that is the Flophouse's birthday.
[28:23]
I think it's our 17th this year, maybe 18th.
[28:29]
I'll have to look into it.
[28:31]
We've been doing this for a long time.
[28:33]
But, yeah, if you're interested, look out for that on our various socials.
[28:40]
Instagram is a good place to find it.
[28:42]
Also, you can find it in our newsletter.
[28:45]
All of the information about stuff we're doing is in our newsletter.
[28:49]
If you go to flophousepodcast.com,
[28:52]
there's a field right on the front page where you can sign up for a newsletter.
[28:57]
And speaking of newsletters, I started my own.
[29:00]
It's called Dan McCoy's Special Interests.
[29:02]
You can find it by going to danmccoyinterests.com.
[29:08]
Maybe it would make more sense if it was danmccoysinterests.com.
[29:11]
But I didn't like the fact that you can't put an apostrophe in the URL.
[29:15]
And so my own weird hang-ups made it danmccoyinterests.com.
[29:20]
So if you're interested in that, check that out as well.
[29:23]
Elliot continues to write Disney's Hercules comics.
[29:27]
Stuart continues to be a bartender.
[29:30]
Go to Minnie's and Hancherland's in Brooklyn and watch his TikTok videos.
[29:36]
Okay, that's it. Bye.
[29:37]
And we're back to The Chomp House, the number one podcast about meat in the movies.
[29:42]
That is actually one episode of a different podcast.
[29:45]
I'm your host, Elliot Kalin.
[29:46]
I'm joined again by the other two members of the three Amitgos.
[29:51]
Dan McCoy.
[29:53]
Stuart Wellington.
[29:54]
That's right. Stuart Beef Wellington.
[29:56]
Stuart Beef Wellington.
[29:59]
Beef Stew.
[30:00]
Beef Wellington, and of course Dan frying pan McCoy, and let's move on to number three.
[30:06]
This is a thing you cook meat in.
[30:08]
It certainly is, Dan.
[30:09]
It certainly is.
[30:10]
So going to number three, I think I might get some blowback from you guys on this because
[30:14]
I said at the top, we're not going to do any movies where people are served as meat.
[30:19]
And this one is questionable.
[30:21]
I may be skirting one of my rules, but I had to include it.
[30:24]
That's right.
[30:25]
That evil meat that we just see for a few seconds in Texas Chainsaw Massacre when she
[30:30]
thinks she's escaped.
[30:31]
She's at the barbecue.
[30:32]
She looks over and just sees it looks like meat hanging in hell.
[30:35]
The way it's lit all red and there's smoke and everything.
[30:38]
It is so scary.
[30:39]
It is in a very scary movie.
[30:40]
It is one of the scariest moments to me because it is a take.
[30:44]
It could be people meet.
[30:45]
It might not be.
[30:46]
You'll never know.
[30:47]
9000% people.
[30:48]
Yeah.
[30:49]
Never know.
[30:50]
And it's also from this point on.
[30:52]
You never know if any of the meat you're eating in real life is people meet or not.
[30:56]
It just makes meat look so scary.
[30:58]
It's an indelible moment of meat on film, even though it's a very short one.
[31:02]
You know, just just because it's set up, it's teed up so beautifully.
[31:06]
I want to throw a plug to our friend who went to college with Jim Strayer's podcast.
[31:12]
This may hurt a bit where I just recently guessed it on talking about the Texas Chainsaw
[31:18]
Massacre.
[31:19]
The next generation, which is the fourth, the one with Renee Zellweger and one of my
[31:24]
most hated movies.
[31:26]
Yeah, I didn't I didn't hate it as much as that.
[31:29]
But if you want to hear me talk about it, I'm over there.
[31:31]
But I just find it to be so irritating.
[31:33]
It's very unpleasant, particularly in the middle where they're all just yelling at each
[31:37]
other for a while.
[31:38]
And I mean, I feel like that's an element of all Texas Chainsaw Massacre movies.
[31:42]
There's no like there's nothing else about it.
[31:45]
There's every Texas Chainsaw Massacre movie has a certain amount of irritation.
[31:49]
Like the first movie, as amazing as the movie is, when you're spending time with those kids
[31:52]
in that van, like you want them all to get murdered.
[31:55]
They're so annoying.
[31:56]
They're so irritating.
[31:57]
Interesting.
[31:58]
OK, I mean, then when they get murdered, you feel bad about it and you're like, I don't
[32:01]
want this.
[32:02]
But there's a and in Texas Chainsaw Massacre, too, there's so much that's that's purposefully
[32:07]
unpleasant about it, you know?
[32:09]
Yeah.
[32:10]
But it's very funny that this one is just a scary moment of meat.
[32:13]
You know, it's the scariest meat moment, or is it because, guys, let's move on to number
[32:17]
two.
[32:18]
OK, and I don't mean what meat becomes when your body is done with it.
[32:22]
I mean, the second most iconic, greatest meat moment in the movies.
[32:26]
Let's go to the first appearance of solo poultry on the list.
[32:31]
We had poultry as part of the meat monster in John Dies the End, I believe.
[32:34]
But otherwise, we've been seeing a lot of pork, a lot of beef, a little bit of dog and
[32:38]
one rat.
[32:39]
We haven't seen any chicken yet, right?
[32:41]
That's a world coming from you, Elliot.
[32:43]
Well, I want Mr. Chicken.
[32:45]
I love the chick titular Mr. Chicken and the ghost of Mr. Chicken, I assume.
[32:50]
It's the ghost.
[32:51]
It's a flop house member who has the Popeye's app on it.
[32:55]
That's true.
[32:56]
It's the lion from the ghost in the darkness and me.
[32:58]
Now, Mr. Chicken.
[32:59]
So that's what the movie is about.
[33:00]
And we're both trying to eat each other because we're on a deserted island.
[33:03]
And when we look at each other, we see each other to me.
[33:06]
Now, I wanted to put on, but it's not a movie.
[33:08]
I wanted to put on the dancing chickens from the Sledgehammer video.
[33:12]
I felt like it didn't fit the rules, but this one certainly did.
[33:16]
And it's a little similar.
[33:17]
It better not be like Baba Yaga's house or some shit.
[33:20]
No, Stuart, we're not playing games here.
[33:22]
We are playing road games back at number nine.
[33:24]
We're not playing games here.
[33:25]
This is real stuff.
[33:26]
This is the real deal.
[33:27]
It is.
[33:28]
That's right.
[33:29]
That little chicken from Eraserhead that he's got to cut up.
[33:32]
So Eraserhead himself, he's at dinner at his girlfriend's parents' house.
[33:35]
The dad asked him to carve the chicken.
[33:36]
He says, why don't you just carve it like a regular chicken?
[33:38]
It is tiny.
[33:39]
And as soon as he starts trying, as soon as he sticks a knife into it, it starts bleeding
[33:43]
and kind of dancing its legs up and down to the point that Eraserhead's girlfriend's mom
[33:48]
goes into a sort of ecstatic nightmare seizure trance and has to run out of the room.
[33:52]
Very upsetting scene.
[33:53]
Very scary, but also pretty funny.
[33:55]
And look, that's what's so great about chicken.
[33:58]
Chicken can be scary and it can be funny.
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Light meat and dark meat in one bird.
[34:02]
Chicken does it all.
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And so this is the best moment of chicken on screen, I think.
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Can I say, though, too, that that's the I mean, obviously, the great thing about Eraserhead,
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a movie that before I saw it in my head, I was like, this is the most fucked up thing
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I'm ever going to see.
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Like from this reputation, I'm like, I don't know.
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I don't know if I can handle Eraserhead.
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Like it's going to be too messed up or it's going to be too arty or too ardently messed
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up.
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But like the thing about it is like so much of it is also.
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Like a comedy of manners, like a weird, I don't know, like it's all about awkwardness
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and I don't know, it's a very funny movie for people who have been scared of Eraserhead.
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Lynch is very good at taking something and making it scary and weird and taking that
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same thing and making it funny and making it scary.
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I mean, the baby in that movie, which is so frightening.
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And there's that one moment where the baby is wearing a suit with a tie and it's like
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this looks pretty funny, to be honest.
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In the pitch meeting for the movie was he's like, and there's a baby and it's freaky.
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Yeah.
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I think that, yeah.
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When David Lynch went to pitch the film to producers, you know, like, I mean, he does
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yell a lot, but your Lynch kind of sounds like half Lynch, half Fred Schneider.
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I want to see, I want to see a movie where it's my dinner with Andre, but it's David
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Lynch and Fred Schneider.
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And the whole movie is waiters asking them to please keep it down.
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So that's that's that's the undead chicken from Eraserhead.
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Number two.
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What a great moment in that movie.
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What a great moment in meat movies.
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It's time for our number one, our number one greatest performance of meat on film.
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The greatest moment of meat on film.
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Can I can I put out what I think might be number one and give me your guesses?
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Yeah.
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My number one meat on film is, of course, the sequence in the movie Dead Heat, where
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the bad guy uses necromantic energies to animate all of the meat in a Chinese restaurant.
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So all the the ducks that are hanging and the giant side of beef all come to life and
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attack Treat Williams and Joe Piscopo.
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It is crazy.
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It's awesome.
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It sounds like it sounds like a really solid moment.
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If I'd ever seen that movie, perhaps it would have ended up on the list.
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You love Joe Piscopo.
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I do love Joe Piscopo.
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He's so funny and muscular, you say.
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Yeah, fuscular is what I call it.
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He was the Stuart Wellington of his day.
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Yes.
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Oh, I'm funny.
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So, Dan, I think you're going to be able to guess what number one is.
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Tell me.
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I think I may have.
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Chomping at the bit earlier.
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What do you think it's going to be?
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You're chomping at the meat.
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What do you think?
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I think I may have given you an action figure of number one.
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That is my guess.
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Is it the meat from Rocky?
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You got that right.
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It's the meat, the punching bag beef from the original Rocky 1976.
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What a performance.
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There was a whole beef section earlier, but you could not put this moment down in the
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beef section.
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It has to be number one.
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This is prime grade A star power on screen.
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I think it's the single most iconic meat moment.
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The crowning cut of meat cinema.
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He's using the side of beef as a as a punching bag to show off on TV how he's going to do
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against Apollo Creed.
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And look, as Dan was saying, they made an action figure of this meat.
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I think it might be the only as far as I know, the only meat action figure that is
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not an accessory with something else just by the meat.
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And it's because for all it's a short moment of screen time.
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The camera is really more on sly than it is on the meat.
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But it just sticks in your memory the way that a good piece of beef sticks in your lower
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GI tract.
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You know that shit's got to taste crazy.
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That's what I was going to ask you, Ellie.
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Do you think it's extra tender because it's extra tender with all the fucking sly sweat
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all over it?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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This is delicious.
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What?
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Yeah.
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If that if that I mean, maybe that meat is hanging up in a planet Hollywood somewhere.
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And if you pay a million dollars, they'll cut a little bit of it off from it for you.
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I don't know.
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But what I wish I wish I could try it.
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But that's got to be number one.
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The meat, the punching bag beef from Rocky guys, do you have any issues with any of the
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movies on our list?
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Are there any that we left off that you really said you didn't see again?
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I'll go through them again.
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Number 10.
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We've got the meat monster from John dies at the end.
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Number nine, that truck full of pork from road games.
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Number eight, the dog factory dog sausages issues.
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Number seven, the rat in from whatever happened to baby Jane.
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I know Dan has issues with the guard with the bedding, the garnish on that.
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Number six, the overcooked steak from Raging Bull.
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Number five.
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It's a T-bone tie.
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The floor beef steak from the main show Liberty Valance and the old 96 are from the great
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outdoors.
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Number four, the rock and roll hamburger from better off dead.
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Number three, that sinister evil barbecue meat from Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
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Number two, the undead chicken from racer head and number one, the meat from Rocky guys.
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How do you feel about this list?
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And what?
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Yeah.
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Is there anything that didn't make it on there that you're disappointed about?
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You know, what's surprising to me is as we joked about my bad memory before.
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But like the one thing I have a memory for is movies, which causes me kind of a certain
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amount of like distress in my personal relationships where I'm like I'm letting like friends, spouses,
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family down by not knowing stuff that's actually valuable to my life, but knowing all this
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movie stuff.
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So it's surprising to me that nothing suggested itself to me as we went through this thing
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like this shows how Jane and I were when we went to the movies the other day, I brought
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up Mulholland Drive and Dan spoke for like 20 minutes straight about the DVD changes
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from the theatrical cut.
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But it's not untrue, but I wouldn't say 20 minutes.
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It was like 25 minutes.
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It did not happen that way.
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An hour, maybe.
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But yeah, like for some reason, meat just doesn't it sticks in my teeth, but not in
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my brain.
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Interesting. Well, now hopefully this will give you some something to chew on some movies to go back and take a second bite of.
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Did you write all these little puns down on a fucking post?
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About half of them. About half of them. Not all of them.
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But audience, do you have any opinions about it? Be sure to write in. Go to FlophousePodcast.com and get in touch with us.
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Or just write to Dan at his personal email, which is, and I'll tell you right now.
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Dan. I mean, if you go to the Flophouse email, go directly to my personal email.
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It will go to his personal email.
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Yeah, or just hit him up on WhatsApp.
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I guess.
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Post Dan's WhatsApp on there, please.
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This kind of feedback also is the sort of thing that, I don't know, might get addressed in our brand new newsletter, which I'm still promoting.
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If you want to get on the mailing list for.
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Are you going to use the newsletter as an opportunity to refute the claims that L.A.
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and I make against you?
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I mean, I wasn't.
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But now, like, I think feel like an airing of grievances would be pretty funny.
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Yeah, it's just like my side of the story.
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Like a little picture of you.
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Mm hmm. Yeah.
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Look like.
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You go to FlophousePodcast.com.
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You can plug your email and get that.
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You can send us a letter.
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You can find out about our live stuff that I'm sure we heard about in the ad segment of this episode.
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Mm hmm.
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So there's probably a jumble or something you can do on the Web site.
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We have a jumble.
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I've got to get on that jumble.
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You've got to make that jumble happen.
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That's all for this episode of the Chophouse, a Flophouse mini production.
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He has podcasts of his own and music of his own.
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Please go check out his work.
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Until then, I'm Elliot Kalin.
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I'll be seeing – what?
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Never mind.
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Until they go to the website, I guess.
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We'll be back next week with a full-length episode of the Flophouse where I'll try to talk about meat, but I don't know if I'm really going to get it in.
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I'm Elliot Kalin.
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Elliot has trouble fitting crap into our episodes.
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This has been Elliot Kalin with my co-hosts.
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Jesus. You said my name before, so I thought it was safe to say –
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What I liked is that Dan was taking a drink.
[42:38]
Stuart, instead of jumping in and saying his name, then waited.
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He's like, let's see how this works out.
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Stinker face.
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I'm Dan McCoy.
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And I'm Beef Stew Beef Wellington. Bye.
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And we're saying we'll meat you at the movies.
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Boy, I guess we are saying that.
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Apologies to the ecologically and morally-responsible vegans and vegetarians in our audience, but today's episode is an exploration of cinematic meats, as Elliott takes us through one of the least-essential top ten lists in movie criticism history!
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