FH Mini 144 - Billion Dollar Babies

[0:00] Hey, everyone. Welcome to The Flophouse. I'm Dan McCoy.

Stuart Wellington

[0:06] I'm Stuart Wellington.

[0:08] I'm Elliot Kalin.

[0:09] And, you know, half the time on The Flophouse.

Dan McCoy

[0:13] Flockhouse.

[0:14] That's the bird version of The Flophouse.

[0:16] That's a bird-based podcast, yeah.

[0:18] Yeah, it's the good feathers of The Flophouse.

[0:20] Stuart Pelican and Dan McCaw.

[0:24] Oh, yeah, that's great. Don't do me. Do me.

[0:26] I love pelicans.

[0:26] Oh, boy, you're harder.

[0:29] Elliot.

[0:30] Say Elliot Penguin.

[0:31] Elliot Crowland.

Stuart Wellington

[0:33] Penguin's pretty good, though.

[0:34] Elliot Crowland.

Dan McCoy

[0:37] Well, we're off to an on-point start.

[0:41] Usually on The Flophouse, of course.

Elliott Kalan

[0:43] I mean, this is a Flophouse mini and Dan's running it.

[0:46] So, Stuart and I don't know. Maybe it is about birds today.

[0:48] I don't know.

Dan McCoy

[0:49] Half the time, we talk about bad movies.

[0:52] Or at least movies that have been rejected by society in some way.

[0:56] And we cradle them, nurse them back to health.

Elliott Kalan

[0:59] We either crush their windpipes so that they can't bedevil the world, or we nurse them back to health.

[1:04] They can fly off into the wilderness.

[1:07] This is still about birds.

[1:08] Are you sure this is mini?

[1:09] It's not about birds, Dan?

Dan McCoy

[1:10] But the other half of the time, we do these increasingly poorly named minis where we talk about something else.

[1:17] And in this case, I'm going to discuss something related to...

[1:21] Elden Ring?

[1:22] Some of the biggest movies in the world.

[1:24] The Elden Ring movies.

[1:25] The Avatar films.

[1:27] Oh.

Elliott Kalan

[1:28] Dan, I still have not seen any of the Avatar movies.

[1:31] Yeah.

[1:31] Is that going to be a problem for me in this mini?

[1:32] No, no, no.

[1:33] No, no.

Dan McCoy

[1:33] Okay.

[1:33] No, it's not.

[1:34] It's a weigh-in for something else.

Elliott Kalan

[1:37] Just so people are aware, it's not because I have anything against those movies.

[1:42] I've loved many of James Cameron's films.

[1:43] It's only that every time I tried to see the first Avatar in the theaters when it first came out,

[1:47] someone in my family would either have a heart attack or die.

[1:50] And I said, you know what?

[1:51] I don't need to see the movie that badly.

[1:52] The movie is...

[1:53] Something in the universe did not want me to see that movie.

Dan McCoy

[1:55] You're the monkey in this case.

Stuart Wellington

[1:59] I'm the monkey.

[2:00] You're the monkey, Dan.

[2:01] Okay.

[2:02] I feel like Avatar would have helped you come to grips with your losses.

[2:06] Maybe.

[2:07] It's true.

[2:08] Yeah.

[2:08] You know, you could plug into the Tree of Life.

[2:10] Yeah, think about how your family members are being...

Dan McCoy

[2:13] Oh, is Tree of Life one of the Avatar movies?

Elliott Kalan

[2:15] I've seen that.

[2:15] Yeah, that's right.

Dan McCoy

[2:18] What do they call it?

[2:19] Home Tree or something?

[2:21] Something like that.

[2:22] Anyway.

[2:23] I recently saw the most recent Avatar picture.

[2:27] I was the one person in the theater at a...

[2:31] It was the first screening of the day.

Stuart Wellington

[2:33] Must have fucking felt weird all painted up in blue shit when you went there.

[2:37] It's a show of your fandom.

Dan McCoy

[2:39] Well, it was in between Christmas and New Year's.

[2:42] And I'm like, when am I going to find the time for like this three and a half hour movie?

[2:47] I know that Elliot can say...

[2:48] Notoriously busy man, Dan McCoy.

[2:50] Nothing but time.

[2:51] But I do try and actually work during the weeks.

[2:56] And...

[2:56] But I was like, well, this is...

Elliott Kalan

[2:58] Stuart made a lewd gesture that I laughed at.

Dan McCoy

[3:03] Yeah.

[3:04] Okay.

[3:04] It's not like I...

[3:05] I would love to also have a writing job on top of the podcast.

[3:10] Dan, we don't need to litigate your endless hours of time.

Stuart Wellington

[3:13] We don't need to litigate the oceans of time that you crossed to be with us today.

[3:16] I feel like love is fairly hyperbolic in this case.

Dan McCoy

[3:20] No.

[3:21] I am...

[3:21] I am desperately desirous of a second outlet.

[3:27] I am not resting on my laurels.

[3:30] I don't need to defend myself to you, but I will...

[3:33] You don't need to defend yourself.

[3:35] So stop.

[3:35] I only will because you attack me.

[3:39] The response to an attack is defense.

[3:43] Anyway.

[3:44] But no.

[3:44] During the holiday season, I'm like, okay, let me fit this in.

[3:49] But I was like...

[3:50] The only time I can fit this in, in fact, is by going to the first screening of the day.

[3:55] And so thus I was sitting alone in the theater, my 3D glasses on, watching Avatar, Fire and Ash.

[4:04] Were you front row?

[4:06] No, I appropriately placed myself to enjoy the 3D.

[4:09] Because, like, if you're going to see one of these movies, you want to see it in the theater.

[4:13] You want to see it with a fancy 3D.

[4:15] I think it's perfectly reasonable that you have not seen these movies, Elliot.

[4:18] Because, like, as far as I'm concerned, home viewing, not really a lot of point to these pictures.

Stuart Wellington

[4:25] Are they doing a screening at the Las Vegas Sphere?

[4:30] That would be pretty cool, right?

[4:34] I don't think so.

[4:35] I don't think that would be cool.

Elliott Kalan

[4:37] Dan, get in touch with your contacts at the Sphere.

Stuart Wellington

[4:40] Okay, I'll do that.

[4:41] Because you said you've been reaching out to see if we could do a Flop House show there.

[4:45] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[4:46] Just our towering faces.

[4:48] Surrounding you at 360.

Elliott Kalan

[4:49] If anyone has a contact at the Sphere, let us know.

[4:52] Because we'd love to do a show there.

[4:53] It seems like it's the best location for us.

[4:56] The best setting, yeah.

Dan McCoy

[4:57] Yeah, that's where comedy works best.

[4:59] Is in a giant cavernous space.

[5:04] Anyway, so the line on these Avatar movies.

[5:07] The sort of, to my mind, boring and not totally correct line is like,

[5:13] Oh, they have no cultural impact.

[5:16] Avatar movies have made billions of dollars, but they have no cultural impact.

[5:21] And recently I've seen on social media, the tide turning and people being like,

[5:27] Shut up.

[5:28] Like, this is the most boring non-take, this side of Die Hard being a Christmas movie.

[5:38] Hey guys, did you know that?

[5:40] Yeah.

[5:41] That Die Hard's a Christmas movie?

[5:42] I was familiar with the idea.

[5:44] And I saw someone point out that like, perhaps the actual thing is that some big movies or franchises have an outsized cultural impact.

[5:56] Things like Star Wars, where we just recorded our previous episode and listing minor characters is not a particularly weird thing to do.

[6:09] It's a thing that a large subset of the population can do.

Elliott Kalan

[6:12] Not even minor characters.

[6:13] Characters that are set dressing with names.

Dan McCoy

[6:17] Yeah.

[6:17] Effectively, yeah.

[6:18] There are these, you know, there are these franchises that have huge cultural impact, of course.

[6:23] Pinkful dingoes.

[6:23] Star Wars, Harry Potter, the MCU.

[6:26] Like, and I think that that kind of skews the tables on what our idea of these things are.

[6:32] Because like, there are these big movies out there that like, people see and they don't necessarily talk about.

[6:38] Yeah.

[6:38] It's not just Avatar.

[6:40] It's not just Avatar.

[6:41] So I'm going to test the cultural impact of a few other movies that have made more than a billion dollars each.

[6:49] In a segment I call, Billion Dollar Babies, sponsored by Ultra Premium Prime Select Superior Pampers brand diapers.

[6:58] When your baby is worth a billion dollars, you don't want to just pamper them.

[7:03] You want to Ultra Premium Prime Select Superior Pamper them.

[7:08] There we go.

[7:09] I sort of said it.

[7:12] Okay.

[7:14] So this movie.

Stuart Wellington

[7:15] That was the fifth take he did of that.

[7:17] No, no.

[7:19] God damn you.

Elliott Kalan

[7:21] The first couple he would just throw in a bunch of slurs and we're like, Dan.

[7:24] Yeah, we're like, maybe edit that out.

[7:27] He never did that.

[7:28] We're just joking.

Dan McCoy

[7:29] And I'll be honest, guys.

[7:31] Feel free to riff a bit about various things because otherwise this might be just short if you just answer questions.

[7:41] Dan, that's not really what we do.

Elliott Kalan

[7:43] Stuart and I are very to the point.

[7:45] Listen calmly.

[7:45] Just all business, you know.

[7:48] You know what?

[7:49] I don't even have a mullet because it's not business up front, party in the back.

[7:52] It's just business all over.

[7:54] Yeah.

[7:54] The business in the back is as important as the business in the front, to be honest.

Stuart Wellington

[7:58] I feel like you look pretty cool with a mullet, though.

[8:01] Maybe with like a little dangly earring, too.

Elliott Kalan

[8:03] Oh, yeah.

[8:04] Probably.

[8:04] What would be dangling?

[8:07] Like a skull?

[8:07] Mizzusa or something?

[8:08] Oh, yeah.

[8:09] Mizzusa.

[8:10] Yeah.

[8:10] It does say in the Torah, inscribe God's word on the doorposts of your ear.

[8:16] Yeah.

[8:17] The doorposts of your face.

Dan McCoy

[8:18] Yeah.

[8:18] So this movie made a billion, 25 million plus.

[8:28] What films supporting cast includes Crispin Glover, Matt Lucas, Michael Sheen, Stephen Fry, Alan Rickman, Timothy Spall, Imelda Staunton, Christopher Lee, and Lucy Davenport as Woman with Big Ears?

[8:50] This is a billion-dollar baby, as I have branded this.

Elliott Kalan

[8:55] And is this part of a franchise or not part of a franchise?

Dan McCoy

[8:57] Yeah.

[8:58] There's more than one of these.

[8:59] There's more than one of these.

[9:01] Yeah.

[9:02] It's from 2010.

[9:03] So it's not Argyle.

[9:06] It's not love action.

[9:07] I mean, Argyle is part of the, what is it, the Kingsman world apparently.

[9:13] That's right.

[9:14] It is part of the Kingsman world.

[9:14] Wait, it is?

[9:15] Yeah.

[9:16] That was the whole point of that last scene.

Elliott Kalan

[9:18] Yeah, because when he makes two more Argyle movies, he'll make the movie where it crosses over with the Kingsman.

[9:26] Okay, so this is from 2010.

[9:28] It made over a billion dollars.

[9:29] Oh, I was thinking of Mordecai.

[9:31] I also was thinking of Mordecai, to be honest.

[9:34] How can you not think about Mordecai?

[9:36] Come on, that mustache?

[9:37] He has a mustache.

[9:38] Nothing's funnier than that, than the presence of a mustache on a human face.

Dan McCoy

[9:43] Why would you do that to yourself?

[9:45] To your lip?

Elliott Kalan

[9:45] Look, if there's anything.

[9:46] Your own lip?

[9:47] In our previous episode, we talked about Marcel Duchamp.

[9:49] He understood.

[9:50] You'd put a mustache where it's not supposed to go.

[9:52] In his case, the Mona Lisa.

[9:53] Instant polarity.

[9:55] So let's see.

[9:57] Who was in it?

[9:58] Stephen Fry, Imelda Staunton.

[10:00] Yeah.

[10:01] Bobby Cannavale, you mentioned.

[10:03] Crispin Glover.

Dan McCoy

[10:04] Matt Lucas, Michael Sheen.

[10:06] Alan Rickman.

Elliott Kalan

[10:08] So, guys, here's something I'm just going to tell you about.

[10:10] Underworld?

[10:12] Don't get the Crispin Glover crisper.

[10:15] Things become surprisingly soggy.

[10:17] It just doesn't get them hot enough.

[10:18] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[10:19] So is it Underworld?

[10:22] It's not Underworld.

[10:23] Michael Sheen's in Underworld.

[10:24] I'm going to tell you guys.

[10:25] Wait, wait, wait.

Elliott Kalan

[10:26] Wait, wait.

[10:27] Is it made a billion dollars?

[10:30] Is it Frost Nixon?

Dan McCoy

[10:34] Oh, maybe it's animated.

[10:38] Is it animated?

[10:39] It's not animated.

[10:40] Although, I mean, it's kind of animated.

[10:41] Here's what it is.

Elliott Kalan

[10:43] Looney Tunes back in action?

[10:44] What movie is kind of animated?

Dan McCoy

[10:45] Space Jam?

[10:46] It's Alice in Wonderland.

[10:48] It's Alice in Wonderland.

[10:48] Oh, Alice in Wonderland.

[10:50] Oh, who's Crispin Glover in that?

[10:52] I'm flicked if I know.

[10:53] I didn't watch that shit.

[10:55] But a lot of people did.

[10:56] Made over a billion dollars.

[10:58] They made a sequel to it.

[11:00] Is this the Tim Burton late period,

[11:04] you know, like I'm only doing ugly CGI.

[11:07] Yeah.

[11:08] So, there you go.

Stuart Wellington

[11:09] This is where Helena Bonham Carter's in it.

[11:12] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[11:13] I have to admit,

[11:15] I deliberately did not mention, you know.

[11:17] Johnny Depp.

[11:18] Her, Johnny Depp, Mia Wasikowska.

Elliott Kalan

[11:21] The only part of that movie that I've seen

[11:22] is the scene of Johnny Depp's Mad Hatter

[11:24] doing a breakdance at the end.

[11:26] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[11:27] And you're like, I love this.

Elliott Kalan

[11:30] Just as Lewis Carroll intended.

Dan McCoy

[11:32] You threw your hat down.

[11:34] And said, this is cinema.

Elliott Kalan

[11:38] If the Lumiere brothers would hear,

[11:40] they would kiss you for finally bringing

[11:42] their invention to fruition.

Stuart Wellington

[11:43] Yeah.

[11:43] Yeah, yeah.

[11:44] Well, yeah.

[11:45] I found a reel of that on Instagram.

[11:47] I keep sending it to Martin Scorsese

[11:48] and he never responds.

Dan McCoy

[11:51] You know, this one, I think maybe you guys might actually get.

[11:57] This one, perhaps, you'll be able to get this.

[12:00] Alice in Wonderland?

[12:02] A billion, 66 million, and more.

[12:08] It's from 2006.

Elliott Kalan

[12:10] I guess anything less than 66 million dollars

[12:12] is not worth getting out of bed for Dan McCoy.

Dan McCoy

[12:13] And this, and this...

[12:16] Well, I just don't want to read all of the numbers.

[12:18] In this picture...

[12:20] Those numbers work hard, Dan.

[12:23] They deserve recognition.

[12:24] In this picture, Stellan Skarsgård debuted...

[12:29] Dead Man's chest.

[12:30] Debuted his character, Bootstrap Bill.

[12:37] Yes.

[12:38] Pirates of the Caribbean, Dead Man's chest.

[12:41] No, no, that was it.

[12:41] He played the indelible character, of course.

[12:43] We all remember Bootstrap Bill.

Stuart Wellington

[12:45] I mean, you know the story there

[12:46] that the rest of the crew was all, like, CGI.

[12:49] So they're all in, like, green screen mocap suits.

[12:52] But he was like,

[12:54] I'm not going to do this movie

[12:55] if I'm not doing practical effects.

[12:57] So he would have to get up super early

[12:59] and he would be in, like, a full fucking makeup.

[13:02] And everybody else just in, like, green screen suits

Elliott Kalan

[13:05] for those scenes.

[13:06] I didn't see that one.

[13:07] I've only seen the first...

[13:08] Maybe first two Pirates of the Caribbean movies?

[13:11] It's the second one.

[13:12] Oh, then I've only seen the first one.

[13:14] But which character is Bootstrap?

[13:15] Is he the one with the tentacle face?

[13:16] Or is that a different one?

[13:17] No, he's got, like, stuff...

Dan McCoy

[13:18] That's the third one,

[13:19] so you've seen three of them.

Stuart Wellington

[13:20] No, I've only seen images.

[13:21] Well, no, he's in the second one.

[13:22] I haven't actually seen that one.

[13:23] Davy Jones is the tentacle face.

[13:24] Oh, he is?

[13:25] Oh, from the monkeys.

[13:26] Yeah.

[13:27] He has, like, barnacles and shit

[13:29] growing out of his head.

[13:30] Oh, okay.

[13:31] I guess I never saw it.

[13:32] But he's part of that crew

[13:32] of, like, fishmen guys.

Elliott Kalan

[13:36] Maybe I'll watch that sometime.

[13:38] Flying Dutchman.

[13:39] That first one,

[13:40] I've been meaning to show to my kids

[13:41] because that's a fun movie,

[13:42] but I haven't seen it in a long time.

[13:44] I mean, the second one...

[13:45] But I never saw the sequels.

Stuart Wellington

[13:45] The second one, I...

[13:46] You know, it's not arguably quite as good,

[13:49] but it is...

[13:49] I mean, I still feel like

[13:50] it's the high-water mark,

[13:52] yes, pun intended,

[13:53] of digital effects

[13:55] other than, like,

[13:56] an Avatar movie.

[13:57] I see.

[13:58] Like, the effects of Davy Jones

[13:59] are insane.

[14:00] I mean, have you seen

Elliott Kalan

[14:01] that Daddy's Song scene

[14:04] from the head

[14:05] where Davy Jones is wearing...

[14:07] It's flashing back and forth

[14:08] between him in the white outfit

[14:09] and him in the black outfit?

[14:10] That's amazing effects.

[14:11] Yeah, that flicker

[14:11] they get out of it.

Dan McCoy

[14:12] Like, can you just mute, Elliot?

[14:15] It's kind of hard to do the show.

[14:17] You have to just sort of guess

[14:18] what he was saying.

[14:19] Yeah, I guess so.

Elliott Kalan

[14:20] I mean, if you mention Davy Jones,

[14:22] I'm gonna be talking about the monkeys.

[14:23] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[14:24] That's true.

[14:25] It's gonna happen.

[14:26] Okay, this movie.

Stuart Wellington

[14:27] That one where they chain him

[14:28] to a radiator

[14:29] so he won't chase after girls anymore

[14:31] and he still rips it out of the wall

[14:32] he's so fucking horned up.

Elliott Kalan

[14:35] This movie.

[14:35] Remember that one?

[14:36] That's crazy.

[14:37] That was the Pirates of the Caribbean movie?

Dan McCoy

[14:43] Somehow I didn't cut and paste the year.

[14:45] It's recent.

[14:46] It's very recent.

[14:49] Dan Blaman on the research team.

[14:50] Yeah.

[14:51] A billion,

[14:52] almost a billion sixty million.

[14:57] It gave the world the iconic...

Elliott Kalan

[14:59] Not one billion and sixty dollars.

Dan McCoy

[15:01] No.

[15:02] Okay.

[15:03] This gave the world the iconic songs

[15:05] Beyond,

[15:07] My Wish for You,

[15:09] and What Could Be Better Than This.

[15:12] We all remember

[15:13] these songs

[15:16] that...

[15:18] Wicked?

[15:19] ...took us all by storm.

[15:22] I assume I'm wrong.

[15:24] No, it's not Wicked.

[15:25] It's not Wicked.

[15:25] It's not Zootopia, right?

[15:27] No, it's not Zootopia.

[15:28] It's a Try Everything song.

[15:31] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[15:32] Or Zootopia 2,

[15:33] because that's the turn

[15:34] that stands for into a zoo, zoo, zoo, zoo song.

Dan McCoy

[15:36] Is this an animated movie?

[15:37] It is an animated picture.

[15:39] Yes.

[15:40] That's the only thing that...

[15:42] I mean,

[15:42] almost the only thing

[15:43] that has multiple songs these days.

[15:46] Wicked?

Elliott Kalan

[15:47] Yeah, no, no.

[15:48] That's why I said that.

Dan McCoy

[15:48] It's basically animated.

Elliott Kalan

[15:49] Wicked W. Warwick,

[15:51] the Ewok who's really into Broadway.

[15:56] Okay.

[15:57] You won me back.

[15:58] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[16:00] This is, of course...

Elliott Kalan

[16:01] Wait, tell...

[16:02] Do you have any other clues?

[16:03] Yeah.

[16:04] No.

Dan McCoy

[16:04] All right.

[16:06] Thanks.

[16:07] All right.

[16:08] Okay, then tell us what it is.

[16:09] I mean, I can give you a clue

[16:11] that would give it away

[16:12] if you want to say anything.

[16:13] Give us a clue.

[16:14] Give it away,

[16:15] give it away,

[16:15] give it away now.

[16:16] Yeah.

[16:16] This was intended

[16:17] not for theatrical originally,

[16:20] but then...

[16:21] Oh, Moana 2?

[16:21] This is Moana 2,

[16:23] made more than a billion dollars.

Elliott Kalan

[16:25] What the heck?

[16:26] Originally intended

[16:27] to be a television show.

Dan McCoy

[16:28] Yeah.

[16:28] How is it?

[16:30] Have you seen it?

[16:31] No, I heard it was terrible.

[16:32] But it made so much moolah.

[16:33] It's not very good.

Elliott Kalan

[16:34] It's fine.

[16:35] It's not horrible,

[16:37] but it's not great.

Stuart Wellington

[16:38] Is Jemaine Clement's

[16:39] giant crab dude in this one?

Elliott Kalan

[16:40] No, I don't think so.

[16:41] But he was in the first one, right?

[16:42] I mean, I have to admit,

Dan McCoy

[16:43] I'm not particularly fond

[16:45] of the original Moana,

[16:46] so when I heard

[16:47] that the second one

[16:48] was not very good,

[16:48] I'm like, well...

[16:49] But you can't wait

[16:49] for that live action one.

[16:50] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[16:51] But Moana 2,

[16:52] the thing that's so frustrating

[16:53] about it is that

[16:54] it's very episodic.

[16:56] It was clearly

[16:56] not really meant

[16:58] to be a movie,

[16:59] but also it ends

[17:00] on a cliffhanger

[17:01] and you're like,

[17:02] uh-oh,

[17:02] now the bad guy

[17:03] is going to come in

[17:04] in the Moana 3.

[17:05] And I remember watching

[17:06] and being like,

[17:07] come on, Moana,

[17:08] what are you doing?

[17:09] Like, don't do this.

Dan McCoy

[17:10] Come on, no one cares.

[17:12] But I chose songs for this

[17:13] because, you know,

[17:15] like the thing

[17:15] in the first movie

[17:16] that I did enjoy

[17:17] was the music.

[17:18] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[17:19] That crab song

[17:21] and then how far I'll go.

[17:22] Yeah.

[17:23] What were the other songs?

[17:24] You're Welcome.

[17:25] That's a real fun song.

[17:26] Maui's song in Moana 2,

[17:28] they're trying for the joy

[17:29] of you're welcome

[17:30] and it's not,

[17:32] doesn't do it.

[17:33] It doesn't get there,

[17:34] you know?

[17:34] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[17:36] Okay.

[17:36] Well, this picture

[17:37] is part of a big franchise,

[17:40] big franchise.

[17:40] All right.

[17:41] 2011,

[17:43] it made

[17:44] one billion,

[17:46] one, two, three million.

Elliott Kalan

[17:48] I would say,

[17:48] I would say on this,

[17:49] I would say on this,

[17:50] Dan,

Dan McCoy

[17:50] it is unfair to include Moana

Elliott Kalan

[17:52] in one of these

[17:53] huge movies

[17:54] that didn't have

[17:54] a cultural imprint

[17:55] because it's a sequel

[17:56] to a movie

[17:56] that did have a big

[17:57] cultural imprint.

[17:57] No, I know.

Dan McCoy

[18:01] But I am also indicating

[18:03] that like there are movies

[18:04] that like have like,

[18:06] that make huge amounts

[18:07] of money

[18:08] sort of drafting on fumes

[18:10] and then no one

[18:12] talks about

[18:12] the rest of it,

[18:14] you know?

[18:15] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[18:15] Wait, is this one

[18:16] Hobbs and Shaw?

Dan McCoy

[18:17] Yeah.

[18:18] Oh, that would have

[18:19] been a great one

[18:20] to put in.

[18:20] I don't think it made

[18:21] more than a billion.

Stuart Wellington

[18:22] Is this Runaway

[18:23] starring Tom Selleck?

[18:24] No, I haven't even

[18:25] given you a clue yet.

[18:27] Is it Mr. Baseball

[18:28] starring Tom Selleck?

[18:28] Other than 2011.

[18:30] Quigley Down Under

[18:31] starring Tom Selleck.

Elliott Kalan

[18:32] No, I think you'll like

[18:33] this clue.

[18:33] Three Men and a Baby

[18:33] starring, of course,

[18:34] Tom Selleck.

Dan McCoy

[18:35] I think this clue

[18:36] will be enjoyable to you.

[18:37] The Balls in Your Court,

[18:38] Stuart,

Elliott Kalan

[18:38] name another Tom Selleck movie.

[18:41] Friends.

Dan McCoy

[18:43] I haven't been paying attention.

[18:44] Did you mention Runaway?

[18:46] That's what I was saying.

[18:47] That's the first one.

Elliott Kalan

[18:48] That's the first one, Dan.

Dan McCoy

[18:49] Well, I've been trying

[18:50] to get to the next thing.

[18:51] Sometimes I've just

[18:52] zoning you out

[18:53] when you're just

[18:54] filibustering.

Elliott Kalan

[18:56] Like a true improv partner

[18:57] who's just so focused

[18:58] on what he wants to do

[18:59] with that.

Dan McCoy

[19:01] In this hit picture,

[19:04] Alan Tudyk plays Dutch.

[19:06] Ken Jeong plays...

[19:07] Is it Dutch

[19:07] starring Ed O'Neill

[19:08] as Dutch?

[19:09] Ken Jeong plays

[19:09] Jerry Wang.

[19:11] Buzz Aldrin plays

[19:12] Buzz Aldrin.

[19:13] And Bill O'Reilly

[19:14] plays Bill O'Reilly.

[19:17] And while you think

[19:18] about that,

[19:18] I'll think about

[19:19] other Tom Selleck movies

[19:20] that you may or may not

[19:21] have already mentioned.

[19:22] And don't say

Elliott Kalan

[19:22] Three Men and a Little Lady.

Dan McCoy

[19:24] Well, he's in

[19:25] In-N-Out.

Elliott Kalan

[19:26] Wait, who was

[19:27] Ken Jeong's character?

[19:30] It's not really Tom Selleck's

Dan McCoy

[19:30] movie, but he's in it.

Elliott Kalan

[19:31] This is not a hangover,

[19:33] is it?

Dan McCoy

[19:34] No, it's not a hangover.

[19:35] Okay.

[19:36] I've never seen

[19:36] any of those either.

[19:37] I mean, it makes you feel

[19:38] like you have a hangover.

[19:39] But it's not a hangover.

[19:41] Wait, who's the first

[19:41] actor you mentioned?

[19:42] Because it's a

[19:44] racket-filled

[19:45] Alan Tudyk.

[19:48] Oh, so it's a

[19:48] tennis movie.

[19:49] Challengers?

[19:50] Yeah.

[19:51] Wait, why does that

[19:53] make you think

[19:53] it was a tennis movie?

[19:54] You said it was

[19:55] racket-filled,

[19:56] and I figured

[19:56] that was a

[19:56] Wimbledon?

[19:59] No, no.

[20:01] Yeah.

[20:01] Wimbledon, famous

[20:02] billion-dollar picture.

[20:04] Wimbledon.

[20:07] A movie that I've seen

[20:08] a surprising number of times.

[20:10] I kind of like that movie.

[20:12] Okay.

[20:14] Okay.

[20:14] All right.

[20:15] Okay.

[20:15] We can do this.

Stuart Wellington

[20:16] Yeah.

[20:16] It's not a tennis movie,

[20:17] so it's not

[20:18] Strangers on a Train.

[20:19] The fucking snowman

[20:20] over here gave us

[20:20] all the clues

[20:21] we can figure this out.

Dan McCoy

[20:22] Part of a long-running

[20:23] series.

[20:23] That I would argue

[20:24] also has very little

[20:28] cultural impact

[20:29] in the way that

[20:30] pardon me,

[20:32] gatekeepers of cultural impact

[20:34] seem to define it

[20:36] even though there are

[20:37] people who care about this.

Elliott Kalan

[20:38] Is it one of the

[20:39] scary movie movies?

[20:40] No.

[20:42] Is it in that world?

Dan McCoy

[20:44] Oh,

[20:44] our world?

[20:46] Yeah.

[20:46] Okay,

[20:47] good.

[20:47] It's not from Earth 2.

[20:50] Is this movie

[20:51] animated?

[20:54] Only in the sense

[20:55] that all big blockbusters

[20:57] are so filled with CGI

[20:58] that they may as well be.

[20:59] Right.

[20:59] Okay.

[21:00] And Bill O'Reilly

[21:02] is in it?

[21:02] No.

Elliott Kalan

[21:03] So there must be

[21:03] like a news scene

[21:04] where someone's commenting

[21:06] on what's happening

[21:07] in the movie?

Dan McCoy

[21:08] I think Buzz Aldrin

[21:09] is your best clue here.

[21:11] Space Cowboys?

[21:13] No.

[21:14] I don't think he's in that.

[21:15] Where did Buzz Aldrin go?

[21:17] Transformers Dark of the Moon?

[21:19] It's Transformers Dark of the Moon.

[21:21] Oh.

[21:22] I didn't know there was

[21:22] a Transformers

[21:23] where they went to the moon.

[21:24] Wait,

[21:24] didn't we even,

[21:25] didn't we do that?

[21:26] No,

Elliott Kalan

[21:26] we did Transformers,

[21:28] we did the one with dinosaurs

[21:29] in it,

[21:29] didn't we?

Dan McCoy

[21:30] Let me,

[21:30] let's see.

[21:31] Which Transformers?

[21:31] I'm gonna Google

[21:32] Flop House Transcomman.

[21:33] Do we do the one

[21:33] with Cogman?

[21:34] I thought we did

Elliott Kalan

[21:34] Transformers Age of Extinction,

[21:36] but I could be wrong about that.

Dan McCoy

[21:37] Is that the one

[21:38] with Cogman in it?

Elliott Kalan

[21:39] More than one.

Dan McCoy

[21:40] I think you guys did

[21:44] we did Age of Extinction.

Stuart Wellington

[21:46] We did one with Matt Singer

[21:47] for a live thing.

[21:49] Okay.

Dan McCoy

[21:51] I think we just did

[21:51] Age of Extinction.

Stuart Wellington

[21:52] Where I mainly spent

[21:53] the whole show

[21:54] messing around with his

[21:55] Jim Cotta sorority

[21:56] on stage.

Elliott Kalan

[21:58] So,

[21:59] oh,

[21:59] that's right,

[21:59] I missed that show.

[22:01] So,

[22:01] is Transformers Dark Side of the Moon

[22:03] or Dark of the Moon?

[22:04] Dark of the Moon.

[22:04] Dark of the Moon,

[22:05] yeah.

[22:05] Dark of the Moon.

Dan McCoy

[22:07] Yeah,

[22:07] a huge series

[22:08] that I think

[22:09] people don't

[22:11] really discuss

[22:12] other than Transformers nerds.

[22:13] Does Bill Riley play

[22:13] one of the Transformers?

[22:14] Hey,

[22:17] being as this is

[22:18] halfway through

[22:19] the episode,

[22:20] Elliot.

Dan McCoy

[22:20] Wow,

[22:21] way to shut down

Elliott Kalan

[22:21] Stu's bit

[22:22] that he was about

[22:23] to get into.

Dan McCoy

[22:24] I think Bill Riley

Stuart Wellington

[22:25] is a Decepticon.

Dan McCoy

[22:26] You don't think

[22:27] that's funny?

[22:28] No,

[22:28] I like that.

[22:28] Juice in there.

[22:29] I like that.

[22:30] Squeeze it a little bit.

[22:31] No,

[22:31] we can squeeze it.

[22:33] You want to squeeze

[22:34] Bill O'Reilly?

[22:34] No,

[22:34] it's fine.

Elliott Kalan

[22:35] I'd rather not

[22:35] squeeze Bill O'Reilly.

[22:36] That's what he got

[22:37] in trouble for.

[22:39] So,

[22:39] guys,

[22:39] we have a couple

[22:40] of Flophouse promos

[22:42] to talk about.

[22:44] This episode is coming out

[22:46] the day before

[22:47] our appearance

[22:49] at Sketchfest

[22:50] in San Francisco.

[22:52] If you're listening to this

[22:53] on the day of release,

[22:54] then tomorrow,

[22:55] Sunday,

[22:56] January 25th,

[22:57] we will be appearing

[22:58] live at Cobb's

[22:59] Comedy Club

[23:00] in San Francisco

[23:02] as part of

[23:02] San Francisco's

[23:03] Sketchfest.

[23:04] It's an afternoon show,

[23:05] 4 o'clock,

[23:05] which means that

[23:06] you can still get

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[23:09] Very exciting.

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[23:16] Master of Disguise

[23:17] starring Dana Carvey.

[23:18] This is,

[23:19] no joke,

[23:20] one of the most

[23:21] requested movies

[23:22] by fans

[23:23] in our years

[23:23] doing the Flophouse.

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[23:26] come by

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[23:27] listen to what I'm talking about.

[23:28] I've never seen it

[23:28] and so,

[23:29] maybe I'll love it.

[23:30] Maybe it'll be amazing.

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[23:33] Sunday,

[23:33] January 25th

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[23:42] I think that's impossible.

[23:44] There's always

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[23:45] But maybe,

[23:46] you know what,

[23:47] maybe you can't

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[23:48] Maybe they don't let you

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[23:50] Then,

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[24:27] from Outer Space.

[24:28] Ed Wood's

[24:29] disaster piece.

[24:31] Eh?

[24:31] Yeah.

[24:32] Like that?

[24:32] Wow.

[24:33] Plan 9 from Outer Space

[24:34] finishing our

[24:35] Flopster piece

[24:35] theater season

[24:36] on some of history's

[24:37] greatest flops

[24:38] decade through decade.

[24:40] We've had a lot of fun

[24:41] on this season

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S4

[25:36] Hello, I'm Sierra Cato,

[25:38] host of TV Chef Fantasy League

[25:40] and I'm here with

[25:41] MaxFun member of the month

[25:42] Dan Kotnick

[25:43] who has been a Maximum Fun

[25:44] member since 2023.

[25:46] Thank you very much.

[25:47] As the MaxFun member

[25:48] of the month,

[25:49] Dan, you'll be getting

[25:50] a $25 gift card

[25:51] to the Maximum Fun store

[25:53] and you get a special

[25:54] member of the month

[25:55] bumper sticker.

[25:56] This is a huge one.

[25:57] You get a parking spot

[25:58] at MaxFun headquarters HQ

[25:59] in Los Angeles, California.

[26:01] Sounds good.

[26:02] Is there anything else

[26:03] you'd like to add

[26:04] as member of the month?

S5

[26:05] This is my opportunity

[26:06] to say thank you

[26:07] to everyone

[26:08] everyone that

[26:09] is a part of

[26:10] Maximum Fun

[26:11] because you guys

[26:12] have just created

[26:13] a media environment

[26:15] that clearly resonates

[26:17] with a lot of people.

[26:19] Being able to

[26:20] do that organically

[26:22] is really impressive

[26:23] and I think that's

[26:24] the root of why

[26:25] I've been such a big supporter

[26:26] and so I want to just

[26:27] thank you guys

[26:27] for committing

[26:28] to that goal.

S4

[26:29] It's for members

[26:30] like you, Dan,

[26:31] and you specifically

[26:33] are a member of the month

[26:34] for a reason.

[26:35] Thanks.

[26:35] Bye.

[26:36] Become a MaxFun member

[26:37] now at

[26:38] MaximumFun.org

Elliott Kalan

[26:39] slash join.

Justin McElroy

[26:42] You know, we've been doing

[26:44] My Brother, My Brother, Me

[26:44] for 15 years

[26:45] and maybe

[26:46] you stopped listening

[26:48] for a while,

[26:49] maybe you never listen

[26:50] and you're probably assuming

[26:51] three white guys

[26:52] talking for 15 years.

[26:53] I know where this

[26:54] has ended up.

[26:55] But no.

[26:56] No, you would be wrong.

[26:58] We're as shocked

[26:59] as you are

[26:59] that we have not

[27:00] fallen into

[27:01] some sort of

[27:02] horrific scandal

[27:03] or just turned into

[27:04] a big crypto thing.

[27:06] Yeah.

S5

[27:06] We don't even really know

[27:07] how crypto works.

Justin McElroy

[27:09] The only NFTs

[27:10] I'm into

[27:11] are naughty,

[27:11] funny things

[27:12] which is what we talk about

[27:13] on My Brother,

[27:14] My Brother, and Me.

[27:15] We serve it up

[27:16] every Monday

[27:17] for you

[27:17] if you're listening

[27:18] and if not

[27:19] we just leave it

[27:20] out back

[27:20] until it goes rotten.

[27:22] So check it out

[27:23] on Maximum Fun

[27:24] or wherever you get

[27:25] your podcasts.

[27:27] Here's another picture.

[27:29] Okay.

Dan McCoy

[27:30] It made

[27:30] a million

[27:31] or sorry

[27:33] a billion

Elliott Kalan

[27:34] This is a photograph

[27:34] of the place

[27:35] where we used to laugh?

[27:36] Is that what you're saying?

[27:36] Is that kind of picture?

Dan McCoy

[27:38] A billion

[27:38] 152 million

[27:41] is from

[27:43] 2018.

[27:44] That's a lot of money.

Elliott Kalan

[27:45] Imagine if you were

[27:46] the guy who made

[27:46] that movie

[27:47] and you ended up

[27:48] with a billion dollars

[27:49] in your pocket.

Dan McCoy

[27:50] Yeah, that's how it works.

[27:52] Unlike the movie

[27:53] Three Kings

[27:53] this movie has

[27:55] three kings in it.

[27:56] Their names are

[27:58] Orm,

[27:59] Atland,

[28:01] and Nereus.

[28:02] Oh, so it's not

[28:03] a Jesus movie.

[28:04] Name that movie.

[28:06] What year?

[28:08] 2018.

Elliott Kalan

[28:09] Now it's not

[28:10] a Hobbit movie

[28:11] because Stuart

[28:11] would have jumped in

[28:12] right off the bat.

[28:14] Yeah.

[28:15] Orm,

[28:16] Nereus,

[28:17] and

[28:17] Atlan.

[28:18] Atlan.

[28:19] Is it that

[28:20] Aquaman sequel?

Dan McCoy

[28:21] It's the original

[28:22] Aquaman.

[28:23] Oh, the first Aquaman.

[28:24] 2018.

[28:25] Yeah.

[28:26] Everyone calls

[28:28] their favorite

[28:28] characters by name

[28:30] from Aquaman.

[28:34] You can't,

[28:35] you can't.

[28:35] I'm comparing it

Elliott Kalan

[28:36] to Star Wars.

[28:37] Yeah, that's true.

[28:38] Because Aquaman

[28:39] certainly had one

[28:40] cultural impact

[28:40] which is that

[28:41] Jason Momoa

[28:42] became like a funny guy

[28:43] in movies.

[28:44] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[28:45] A bro.

[28:46] A bro.

[28:47] A funny bro guy.

[28:48] A funny muscle bro.

Elliott Kalan

[28:49] I don't know if you have

[28:50] his performance in

[28:50] a Minecraft movie

[28:51] without Aquaman.

[28:53] Yeah.

[28:55] And I'll remind everyone

[28:56] what my younger son

[28:57] said a couple years ago

[28:58] when I was driving around

[29:00] after we saw the trailer

[29:01] for Fast X

[29:02] before the Super Mario

[29:03] Brothers movie.

[29:04] In the car one day

[29:05] he just goes,

[29:06] we saw the trailer

[29:07] for that movie

[29:08] where there was the guy

[29:08] with the beard

[29:09] and the sunglasses

[29:10] and he was driving

[29:10] a motorcycle.

[29:11] Who was that?

[29:12] And I said,

[29:12] oh, that's Jason Momoa.

[29:14] And he just went,

[29:15] he's cool.

[29:18] He is cool.

Dan McCoy

[29:21] Look,

[29:22] I'll be honest.

[29:23] I don't think

[29:24] there's nothing

[29:24] to the idea

[29:25] that like

[29:26] considering how much money

[29:28] it has made,

[29:30] like billions

[29:31] and billions

[29:31] and billions,

[29:32] like it's like

[29:32] the Avatar movies

[29:34] are like way up there

[29:35] in the like

[29:36] top earners

[29:37] of all time.

[29:38] Like,

[29:38] I don't think

[29:39] there's nothing

[29:39] to the idea

[29:39] of like,

[29:40] yeah,

[29:40] it seems weird

[29:42] that there's not

[29:42] more cultural impact

[29:44] for it.

[29:46] I'm just exploring

[29:47] the idea

[29:47] that like,

[29:49] yeah, sure,

[29:50] but you know,

[29:51] like,

[29:51] we don't

[29:54] obsess over everything

[29:55] you know,

[29:55] even if people

[29:56] go out and see

[29:57] things.

[29:58] And like,

[29:58] I feel like it's weird

[29:59] that this is the one

[30:00] where it's become a meme,

[30:01] you know?

Elliott Kalan

[30:02] Well,

[30:02] I think that's true.

[30:03] I also think it is weird

[30:04] for,

[30:05] maybe it's a misunderstanding

[30:06] of how cultural,

[30:08] how culture works.

[30:09] Yeah.

[30:10] The idea that

[30:10] if something is hugely successful,

[30:13] then of course,

[30:13] that should also be the thing

[30:15] that takes over

[30:17] human imagination.

[30:18] And I think that's,

[30:19] that idea has been skewed

[30:20] by things like

[30:21] the Star Wars movies

[30:22] because if you look at

[30:23] the history of culture,

[30:26] it's often not the thing

[30:27] that is the most popular

[30:28] and the most profitable.

[30:29] That is the thing

[30:30] that has the most impact.

[30:32] Like,

[30:32] it's the old story

[30:33] of a,

[30:33] that old people talk about

[30:34] when they want to

[30:35] sound cool,

[30:36] I guess,

[30:36] about like,

[30:37] the Sex Pistols

[30:38] or the Velvet Underground,

[30:39] like,

[30:39] where it's like,

[30:40] not a lot of people

[30:41] saw that first show

[30:42] or bought that first album,

[30:43] but they all went out

[30:43] and started bands.

[30:44] You know,

[30:45] like,

[30:45] in reality,

[30:46] it is often not the thing

[30:48] that is a huge,

[30:50] widespread,

[30:52] audience-pleasing

[30:53] phenomenon

[30:54] for a short amount of time

[30:55] that is a huge cultural impact.

[30:56] And it's other than like,

[30:58] well,

[30:58] like Star Wars

[30:58] and the Beatles,

[30:59] I think they've skewed

[31:00] the scales a little bit

[31:01] to a certain extent

[31:02] on that kind of thing.

[31:03] But anyway.

Dan McCoy

[31:04] Let's get back

[31:05] to my silly game.

[31:05] Because I will say this,

Elliott Kalan

[31:06] in terms of like,

[31:07] the Marvel movies are huge,

[31:08] but there's a cultural impact

[31:09] other than like,

[31:11] people know those characters

[31:12] and wear t-shirts with them.

[31:13] It's not like it has,

[31:14] which they never did before.

[31:17] Which,

[31:17] I mean,

[31:18] the coolest people did before.

[31:19] But it hasn't wormed its way

[31:20] into people's imaginations

[31:22] in some ways,

[31:22] the way that Star Wars did

[31:23] where they were like,

[31:24] oh,

[31:24] this speaks to me,

[31:25] you know?

Stuart Wellington

[31:26] Well,

[31:26] wasn't like,

[31:27] wasn't like one of the biggest movies

[31:29] in the country,

[31:31] like a demon slayer movie?

[31:34] Like,

[31:34] not K-pop Demon Hunters,

[31:35] but like-

[31:35] No,

[31:35] no,

[31:36] but that other one,

[31:36] yeah,

[31:36] that animated demon slayer movie.

[31:38] Yeah,

[31:38] the animated movie

[31:40] was like huge.

[31:42] And I'm like,

[31:42] I don't even,

[31:43] no,

[31:43] it's not Chainsaw Man.

[31:44] That's different.

Dan McCoy

[31:45] Or the fact that you look at-

Stuart Wellington

[31:47] That's Denji,

[31:47] the Chainsaw Man.

[31:48] Dan,

[31:49] he's paired with the Chainsaw Demon.

Elliott Kalan

[31:51] The opposite side of Star Wars

[31:53] is Star Trek,

[31:53] right?

[31:54] And I would argue that Star Trek

[31:55] arguably has a greater

[31:56] cultural impact than Star Wars,

[31:58] besides never being quite as successful.

[32:00] And this is a show that

[32:01] was originally canceled,

[32:03] and then,

[32:04] you know,

[32:05] the viewers demanded it

[32:06] come back for a little bit.

[32:07] And it was rebooted

[32:08] many,

[32:08] many times

[32:08] because it got its hooks

[32:10] so deep

[32:10] into the minds

[32:11] of certain people.

[32:13] And so,

[32:13] I would,

[32:14] I think,

[32:14] Dan,

[32:15] I love what you're doing.

[32:15] I think this is a really fun game.

[32:17] But when people say like,

[32:18] Avatar made a lot of money,

[32:18] but nobody talks about it,

[32:19] I would say like,

[32:20] that's maybe the way

[32:21] it should be.

[32:22] I mean,

[32:22] TV shows,

Stuart Wellington

[32:23] I think,

[32:24] is an interesting thing too

[32:25] because it's like,

[32:27] like,

[32:27] I don't watch a lot

[32:28] of network television

[32:29] or whatever,

[32:29] or even,

[32:30] but like,

[32:31] something like,

[32:32] something like Yellowstone

[32:34] is this huge

[32:35] juggernaut of a show.

[32:38] I know nothing about it

[32:40] other than the name.

[32:41] People are on horses,

[32:42] I guess.

[32:43] But like,

[32:44] it's a big deal.

[32:45] I'm sure a lot of people

[32:45] watch it.

[32:46] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[32:47] A lot of people watch it.

[32:48] Yeah, yeah.

[32:48] I mean,

[32:48] in the last episode,

[32:49] we made a lot of fun

[32:50] of Tracker.

[32:52] more people watch Tracker

[32:53] than probably any of the shows

[32:54] I watch.

[32:55] It's a huge show,

[32:56] Tracker.

[32:57] But when you look at

[32:58] the next few generations

[32:59] of television shows,

[33:00] I don't think they're going to be

[33:01] heavily influenced by Tracker.

[33:03] But you never know,

[33:04] maybe I'm wrong.

[33:04] No,

Stuart Wellington

[33:04] they're all going to be

[33:05] influenced by Stranger Things.

[33:07] Yeah,

[33:07] that's true,

[33:07] I guess.

[33:08] What if it was called

Elliott Kalan

[33:09] Strange Trackers?

[33:12] Stranger Tracker?

[33:13] Now you're out of something.

[33:13] You're out of something.

Dan McCoy

[33:15] This picture made

[33:16] Tracker Things?

[33:18] a billion,

[33:19] 308 million,

[33:22] et cetera.

[33:23] Okay.

Elliott Kalan

[33:24] Et cetera.

[33:25] That could be anything.

Dan McCoy

[33:27] Other sequels.

[33:28] Nickels.

[33:30] Other sequels in the series

[33:31] are named

[33:31] Dominion and Rebirth.

[33:33] What's this one called?

[33:34] Jurassic World.

[33:36] But what's it called?

[33:37] Jurassic World.

[33:39] Fallen Kingdom?

[33:40] Fallen Kingdom.

[33:40] There you go.

[33:41] That's the one I did.

[33:42] I thought it was possible

[33:43] that you would not remember

[33:44] the subtitle

[33:45] for all of these.

[33:46] Which one was that?

Elliott Kalan

[33:47] Was that the third one?

[33:48] That's the one.

[33:49] It's the second one,

[33:50] I think.

[33:50] It's the one that we did

[33:51] on the podcast.

[33:52] The reason I remember it

[33:53] is because I always want to say

[33:53] it's called Jurassic World

[33:54] Tragic Kingdom,

Dan McCoy

[33:55] which of course

[33:56] is not what it's called.

[33:58] That's where No Doubt

[33:59] were eaten by dinosaurs.

Elliott Kalan

[34:02] How much better

[34:03] would any of those movies be

[34:04] if No Doubt was in it?

[34:05] Just having an adventure.

Dan McCoy

[34:07] Yeah, No Doubt's

[34:08] tour plane goes down

[34:10] on the Jurassic Park island.

[34:13] We gotta run.

Elliott Kalan

[34:14] I can't.

[34:14] I'm walking into spider webs.

Dan McCoy

[34:17] That's just fan service, Elliot.

Elliott Kalan

[34:19] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[34:20] I'm sorry, Dan.

[34:20] You're gonna have No Doubt

[34:21] in your movie

[34:22] and you're gonna have

[34:22] no references to their songs?

[34:23] Now he's naive.

Stuart Wellington

[34:24] The dinosaurs are attractive

[34:26] by sound.

[34:26] Please, don't speak.

[34:29] Exactly.

Elliott Kalan

[34:30] I'm trapped in a box.

[34:33] Wait, is that a song?

[34:34] That is a song.

[34:35] It is, yeah.

[34:36] It's an older song.

Dan McCoy

[34:37] No Doubt.

[34:39] Knowledge is shallow.

[34:41] Yeah.

[34:42] And I,

[34:43] not a song by No Doubt.

[34:44] No.

Elliott Kalan

[34:45] The bad guys,

[34:45] so no doubt,

[34:46] so Gwen Stefani

[34:47] has to save the other members

[34:48] of the band

[34:48] and there's terrorists

[34:50] on the island

[34:51] who want to steal

[34:51] dinosaur dinner or something

[34:52] and she's on the other

[34:53] and goes,

[34:53] should we worry about her boss?

[34:54] What should we do?

[34:54] Don't worry.

[34:55] She's just a girl.

[34:56] And then that's,

[34:57] and it goes up in there.

[34:58] And this is,

Stuart Wellington

[34:58] this is early No Doubt

[35:00] before Gwen Stefani

[35:01] made her like

[35:02] slight MAGA spin,

[35:04] pivot she's been on lately.

[35:06] Is that what she,

[35:06] I don't know about that.

[35:07] Has she been doing that?

[35:07] Is that her deal?

Elliott Kalan

[35:08] Yeah.

[35:09] I mean,

[35:09] she went from kind of

[35:11] ska-inflected pop punk

[35:12] to a more like

[35:14] hip-hop inflected music.

[35:16] So she's,

[35:17] she just changes with the,

[35:18] she's a weathervane,

[35:19] you know.

Dan McCoy

[35:20] Here's one

[35:20] where the first movie

[35:22] definitely

[35:23] had a cultural impact.

[35:25] But then,

[35:26] maybe not.

[35:28] It's a billion,

[35:30] 453 million.

[35:32] Evil Dead.

[35:33] Yeah,

[35:34] no one likes Evil Dead,

[35:35] too.

[35:37] That was a billion dollar movie.

[35:40] From 2019.

[35:43] here's,

[35:43] here's some,

[35:44] here's some trivia from it.

[35:46] Some,

[35:46] from IMDb.

[35:48] Yeah.

[35:48] The Kulning,

[35:50] central to the plot,

[35:51] is performed by

[35:52] a Norwegian singer,

[35:53] Aurora.

[35:54] The melody used for the Kulning

[35:56] is the

[35:56] Dies Irae,

[35:58] which,

[35:59] since the 13th century

[36:00] or sooner,

[36:01] has referred to the

[36:02] wrath of God's judgment

[36:03] on humanity.

[36:04] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[36:05] We all know

[36:05] Verde's version of it,

[36:07] which is quite shattering,

[36:08] loud and shattering.

[36:09] Yeah.

[36:09] So,

Dan McCoy

[36:12] I don't know,

[36:13] it sounds like a pretty

[36:14] dramatic picture,

[36:15] whatever it is.

Elliott Kalan

[36:16] But there's calming in it,

[36:17] huh?

[36:17] Calming.

Dan McCoy

[36:19] Calming?

[36:19] Calming.

[36:20] I guess it's a type of

[36:22] hurting call,

[36:24] is what I was able to,

[36:27] Kulming?

[36:29] Kulminer's daughter?

[36:30] K-U-L-N-I-N-G.

[36:33] Oh,

[36:34] I don't know what that is.

[36:35] Yeah.

[36:36] It's a type of hurting call,

[36:37] I just said.

Elliott Kalan

[36:38] Type of hurting call,

[36:39] okay.

[36:39] And any other trivia about this

[36:40] other than just that?

Dan McCoy

[36:42] Nope.

[36:43] That's what I put down.

[36:44] Is this an English language film?

[36:46] When was this?

[36:48] 2019.

[36:49] As I said,

[36:49] it's a sequel to a film

[36:51] that has a definite footprint.

[36:54] This one.

[36:55] Godzilla vs. Kong.

[36:56] Maybe not.

[36:58] No.

[36:59] Wonder Woman 1984.

[37:01] No.

[37:02] This is an animated picture.

[37:04] Oh.

Elliott Kalan

[37:06] Oh.

[37:07] From 2019.

[37:08] The sequel's in 2019.

[37:10] Cars 5.

[37:12] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[37:12] There's only three Cars movies.

[37:15] Thank God.

[37:17] The third one is the best one.

[37:19] Minions 4 Wrath of Gru.

Dan McCoy

[37:23] This picture is named Frozen 2.

[37:27] Frozen 2.

[37:29] Oh.

Elliott Kalan

[37:29] Stuart, the only reason I know it's not Minions 4 is because that was after 2019.

[37:34] It was the first movie my wife saw in the theaters after COVID.

[37:37] And she kept saying, yep, that's why what I waited for was to see Rise of the Crew.

Dan McCoy

[37:43] I think mine was like, literally, it was a spiral from the book of Saw.

[37:50] Like, I was just so desperate to see a movie at that point.

[37:55] So, this is Frozen 2 you're talking about.

[37:57] Mine was Nobody starring Bob Odenkirk.

[37:58] Oh.

Elliott Kalan

[37:59] It was fun.

Elliott Kalan

[37:59] It was fun.

[38:00] It was fun.

[38:00] Okay.

[38:00] I don't remember what mine was.

[38:02] I used to know.

[38:02] But Frozen 2.

Dan McCoy

[38:04] You're saying that's what it was?

[38:05] Frozen 2, yeah.

[38:05] Okay.

[38:06] Did you see that one?

[38:07] Did you see either Frozen?

[38:09] Yes.

[38:09] I saw the first Frozen.

[38:10] Again, not a movie that – a movie that I like better for the songs than the movie.

[38:15] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[38:16] I think there's good stuff in – I was – Frozen 2, you can tell that they were struggling

[38:23] to figure out what this movie is about.

[38:25] Yeah.

[38:27] There's some okay songs in it.

Dan McCoy

[38:29] This last movie that I'm going to ask you about, I think Elliot has seen.

[38:33] I think you've seen it.

[38:34] I saw Frozen 2.

[38:35] Whoa.

Stuart Wellington

[38:36] Yeah.

[38:36] I feel like you've seen more of these than I have.

Elliott Kalan

[38:38] Well, because the biggest movies that – now, in the past few years, especially the biggest

[38:42] movies that have come out are children's – are family movies.

[38:45] Yeah.

[38:45] And the only movies I get to see in the theaters are movies that my kids want to see.

[38:49] So the days when – there's a Chinese movie from many years ago called Devils on the Doorstep.

[38:55] And I remember seeing that at Film Forum and later on reading that that movie made $20,000

[38:59] during its entire American release.

[39:01] And I was like, I was part of that.

[39:03] Like, it's a good movie.

[39:04] And I got to be part of the small group of people.

[39:06] But now I don't get to say that.

[39:07] Now it's just like, well, Zootopia 2 is the highest grossing movie in Disney history.

[39:11] Well, I was part of that.

[39:12] I paid for three tickets to Zootopia 2.

[39:15] So those are the only movies I get to see in the theater these days.

[39:17] I almost got to see one battle after another in the theaters.

[39:20] But it was only playing at 6 p.m., which was too early for me to go, or 9 p.m., which was too late for me to go.

Dan McCoy

[39:25] So I had to watch it as a screener at home.

[39:29] Well, this movie made $1,420,000,000.

[39:34] $420,000,000.

[39:35] And here we, I'm going to see.

[39:37] One billion after another should be the title of this mini, by the way.

[39:41] Yet again.

[39:41] Yeah, that's good.

[39:42] That's a good one, yeah.

[39:43] Some trivia from this movie's page.

[39:45] Yeah, slop it on us.

[39:47] When the two hippos crash into the docks, several apples are rolling toward them.

[39:51] They eat them.

[39:52] This is a reference to the game Hungry Hungry Hippos.

[39:54] Oh, this is just Zootopia 2, Dan.

[39:55] This is Zootopia 2.

Stuart Wellington

[39:56] Yeah, the one you just mentioned.

[39:58] Oh, I was going to say it was Jungle Cruise.

Elliott Kalan

[40:01] The one you just mentioned.

[40:02] No, I did see.

[40:03] And when I saw that scene, I go, oh, this is a Hungry Hungry Hippos joke.

[40:06] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[40:07] Did you slap your kids and be like, hey, look, that's Hungry Hungry Hippos.

Elliott Kalan

[40:11] This is a reference to a thing that was old when I was a kid.

[40:14] Yeah.

[40:16] Did you guys haven't seen Zootopia 2?

[40:18] Or Two-topia, as it should be called?

Dan McCoy

[40:19] I have not seen Two-topia.

Elliott Kalan

[40:21] Or Zootopia.

[40:23] It's fine.

[40:23] It gets surprising.

[40:24] I think Zootopia makes more sense.

[40:26] Zootopia, yeah.

[40:27] We had this discussion.

[40:28] We talked about this in a previous episode, yeah.

[40:31] It gets surprisingly grim by the end of it.

[40:35] But it's fine.

[40:36] I liked the first one.

[40:38] I didn't love Zootopia.

[40:39] So if you liked Zootopia, Zootopia 2 is more of the same.

Dan McCoy

[40:42] Yeah.

[40:43] Look at Stuart's face.

Stuart Wellington

[40:45] Does it feel like it's extra horny?

Elliott Kalan

[40:52] No.

[40:53] Yeah, how horny is it?

[40:54] It's not horny at all.

[40:55] It has a pro.

[40:56] It has a pro-immigration message.

[41:01] Okay.

[41:01] Which I appreciate it.

[41:02] I'm horny for that.

[41:03] But no, it is not.

[41:05] It's very clear that there is no relationship between, other than a platonic friend one, between the rabbit and the fox.

[41:11] So if you want to see them, if you're hoping that the online comic someone made where the fox is mad at the rabbit.

Stuart Wellington

[41:17] You can say someone's.

[41:20] Someone's.

[41:21] I mean, just a lot of people have probably made comics like this.

Elliott Kalan

[41:24] But go on.

[41:24] Sorry.

[41:24] Oh, yes.

[41:25] Well, there's the one in particular I'm talking about.

[41:26] The comic where it's just about the fox and the rabbit.

[41:29] The fox is mad because the rabbit had an abortion without telling him.

[41:32] Right.

[41:33] And it all takes place in Jerry Seinfeld's apartment for some reason.

[41:37] If you're hoping that that scene shows up in the movie, it doesn't.

Dan McCoy

[41:41] It's not in there.

[41:42] So.

[41:42] That's great.

[41:43] I'm familiar with this comic, but apparently you are very familiar with this comic.

Elliott Kalan

[41:46] This is an online comic because I find it fascinating.

[41:48] I don't know anything about the person who made it.

[41:50] It's such a.

[41:50] It's a.

[41:51] I almost understand someone doing kind of rule 34, taking two characters and having them have sex.

[41:57] Yeah.

[41:57] This is just a relationship story about two people in a relationship where one has decided to not have a child without telling the other one.

[42:05] And the other one is upset about it.

[42:07] And the.

[42:07] But the strangest.

[42:09] Which is strange from what you would want to do with these characters.

[42:11] But the strangest thing is that for the backgrounds, this artist has used Jerry Seinfeld's apartment from the show Seinfeld.

[42:17] So.

[42:18] Yeah.

[42:18] What are you getting at this?

Stuart Wellington

[42:20] Like are these hand-drawn backgrounds or photographs?

[42:22] Yes.

[42:22] I believe they are hand-drawn backgrounds.

[42:24] Awesome.

[42:24] No, no.

[42:24] They're not photographs.

[42:25] It's all drawn.

[42:26] It's all drawn.

[42:26] Yeah.

[42:26] Okay.

[42:27] I think it's actually a really good idea because I don't know about you, but when.

[42:30] As a.

[42:31] You know.

[42:31] As an artist myself, I would use like reference photos.

[42:36] Sure.

[42:36] You know.

[42:36] There's few apartments I know better than the interior.

Elliott Kalan

[42:41] It would either be Seinfeld's apartment or the Friends Girls.

[42:44] You know.

[42:44] Yeah.

[42:44] So.

[42:44] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[42:45] Or Friends Ladies, I should say.

Elliott Kalan

[42:46] But so Zootopia 2, I would say if you like Zootopia, go ahead and watch Zootopia 2.

[42:50] If you are lukewarm on Zootopia, you don't necessarily need to see Zootopia 2.

Dan McCoy

[42:53] And if you like Jerry Seinfeld's apartment, read this comic.

Stuart Wellington

[42:57] Read this comic.

[42:58] And I mentioned K-pop Demon Hunters and Passing earlier.

[43:02] Have your kids watched that?

[43:03] Is that a thing the Kalen boys are into?

Elliott Kalan

[43:06] That's something my younger son is very into.

[43:07] He actually just showed it to me a couple days ago for the first time.

[43:11] And that's a fun movie too.

[43:12] Yeah.

[43:12] How is it?

[43:12] It's fun.

[43:13] Yeah.

[43:13] The music is somehow very catchy and also I don't remember how any of it sounds.

[43:17] Like it just didn't stick in my head.

[43:20] There's one that goes something like up, up, up, up, up, up, up.

Dan McCoy

[43:24] Like that.

Elliott Kalan

[43:24] Is there?

[43:25] Okay.

[43:25] I'll take your word for it.

[43:26] I think so.

[43:27] It's a movie I just saw the other day but don't remember the song.

[43:29] I haven't even seen the movie.

Dan McCoy

[43:30] I just have now the songs are all over the place.

Elliott Kalan

[43:33] But yeah.

[43:34] It's a fun movie.

[43:35] Cool.

Dan McCoy

[43:36] Well, we went on a real journey.

[43:39] Where did we end up?

[43:40] A real Discovery Quest.

[43:41] We're lost.

[43:42] We're out.

[43:43] Our Discovery Quest took us down a dirt road to a ditch somewhere.

[43:47] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[43:48] That's going to be my biography.

[43:51] It's going to be Discovery Quest, Stuart Wellington's sexuality through the lens of the Flophouse.

Dan McCoy

[43:59] I don't even know if that was like a thing we talked about on microphones.

[44:02] No.

Dan McCoy

[44:02] It was all microphones.

[44:03] It's probably a bloop.

Elliott Kalan

[44:05] So for listeners, so we record these episodes two at a time.

[44:08] Let's take it behind the curtain.

[44:09] Let's open the Kamau on this one.

[44:11] Yeah, please.

[44:11] And the previous episode, before we started officially recording, we were talking about

[44:16] Stuart's Discovery Quest, about his sexuality over time as he's co-hosted the show.

[44:20] And then we made a glancing mention reference to it during the actual episode.

[44:25] So to us, the phrase Discovery Quest is now very funny.

[44:27] But to the listener, it means nothing.

Dan McCoy

[44:29] Well, because we also spun it out into like, you know, like this is a PBS show that, you

[44:34] know, like people do.

[44:35] Yeah.

[44:35] So buckle up.

[44:36] You're going to get a lot of Discovery Quest mentions.

Elliott Kalan

[44:38] From this point on, it's a lot of jokes about Discovery Quest.

Dan McCoy

[44:41] Yeah.

[44:42] Okay.

[44:43] Well, now that we've done the important work of explaining something that happened off mic,

[44:47] we can sign off.

[44:50] Thank you to Maximum Fun.

[44:51] Go to MaximumFun.org to check out all the other great shows on this podcasting network.

[44:56] If you like us, I guarantee you'll like something else as well.

Elliott Kalan

[45:01] And if you don't like us, you may still like something else.

[45:03] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[45:03] Yeah.

[45:04] It works the other way too.

[45:05] Yeah.

[45:06] And thank you to our producer, Alex.

[45:09] He goes by the name Howell Dottie on the internet for his own creative endeavors.

[45:14] What does he call about?

[45:15] What's his full name in real life?

Elliott Kalan

[45:17] Alex Smith.

[45:18] Okay.

[45:19] You just called him Alex and I just wanted to get him, let him have full credit.

[45:22] Yeah.

[45:23] Well.

[45:24] It's not Alex Mack who is producing the show.

Dan McCoy

[45:27] Speaking of names, I've been Dan McCoy.

[45:29] I've been Stuart Wellington.

Elliott Kalan

[45:31] And I'm Elliot Kalin.

[45:33] And I want to thank Dan McCoy for taking us on this journey through the billion dollar babies

[45:39] that we've forgotten.

[45:40] Let's take another look at them.

[45:42] And then Dan, here you would put the in memoriam montage of movies that we don't remember anymore.

[45:46] Mm-hmm.

[45:47] See ya.

[45:54] Maximum Fun.

Dan McCoy

[45:54] A worker-owned network.

Justin McElroy

[45:56] Of artist-owned shows.

[45:58] Supported.

[45:59] Directly.

[46:00] By you.

FH Mini 144 - Billion Dollar Babies

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