Ep.#431 - Wish

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[1:03] On this episode we discuss Wish.

[1:05] It'll make you wish you were watching a different movie.

[1:08] Guys, this episode writes itself.

[1:26] Hey, everyone, and welcome to the Flophouse.

[1:36] I'm Dan McCoy.

[1:37] I'm Stuart Wellington.

[1:39] I'm Elliot Kalin, and hey, you probably heard my voice earlier talking about Flop TV 2,

[1:44] the sequel, coming soon to your computer screen, and maybe you'll hear about it more later.

[1:48] I just can't stop talking about it.

[1:49] So guys, what is this podcast that we do, and what does it do, and who are we?

[1:56] No, no, no.

[1:57] Hey, Dan.

[1:58] Don't confuse.

[1:59] Look, at this point in our life cycle as a podcast, I'm sure we're picking up very few

[2:04] new listeners with this specific episode.

[2:06] And losing many, yeah.

[2:07] Mm-hmm, yeah.

[2:08] But let's not confuse those people right off the bat.

[2:11] And I'm Stuart Wellington.

[2:13] I'm Stuart Wellington, and this is...

[2:15] No!

[2:16] Oh, sorry.

[2:17] One more time.

[2:19] I'm Stuart Wellington.

[2:20] And I'm the Flophouse, and this is Elliot Kalin.

[2:22] Okay, close enough.

[2:25] Close enough is good enough.

[2:26] So this is a podcast...

[2:27] Hey, close enough only counts in Hand Grenades, Horseshoes, and this podcast.

[2:32] As Dan always says, measure once, cut twice.

[2:36] What?

[2:37] It's hard to cut it the second time.

[2:39] Strong in a couple different ways.

[2:40] The second cut is harder.

[2:41] Yeah.

[2:42] Because the first cut is the deepest, is the thing.

[2:43] Yeah.

[2:44] Yeah.

[2:45] Yeah.

[2:46] This is a podcast.

[2:47] Oh.

[2:48] Thank you.

[2:49] Okay.

[2:50] Where we watch a bad movie, and then we talk about it.

[2:52] In this case, this is more of a movie that was sort of created with a general sort of,

[2:58] you know, lack of care.

[3:00] Just sort of a, oh, look, wishes in theaters.

[3:03] Well, it did okay, but certainly not enough considering the budget.

[3:09] Not enough to make money.

[3:10] Yeah.

[3:11] Yeah.

[3:12] And it was a Disney movie, right?

[3:13] A Disney movie.

[3:14] You don't do a lot of these.

[3:15] This was the Disney movie that was intended to celebrate the 100th anniversary of Disney

[3:19] as a studio.

[3:20] Yes.

[3:21] And it fails to reach that.

[3:22] That explains part of it.

[3:23] That is a high bench to have to clear.

[3:25] Yes.

[3:26] The company that, until the recent couple of years, was synonymous with children's imagination

[3:30] and the magic of wonder, to celebrate 100 years of that is a big, big thing to have

[3:35] to do.

[3:36] And you could say they kind of went the opposite direction and decided to underwire.

[3:40] I have heard some theories that perhaps the weight of that did it no favors.

[3:45] I'm sure.

[3:46] Perhaps there was more sort of a general like meddling and reworking and blandening because

[3:51] this was supposed to be their big centennial release.

[3:55] I don't know.

[3:56] It's possible.

[3:57] What I was told by my...

[3:58] This was originally a hard R movie.

[4:00] Yeah.

[4:01] It was originally a hard R movie.

[4:02] It was by the makers of Infinity Pool.

[4:04] Yeah.

[4:05] And they decided at the last minute, they'd already filmed it and everything.

[4:07] They decided, wait a minute, what do we do?

[4:08] It was about to go to the theaters.

[4:09] And they had to literally drive a van to catch up with the previous van that had the film

[4:13] reels in it so they could stop it from getting into the theaters.

[4:15] Majestico was originally Aslan Rex from Ravenloft.

[4:19] Powerful Lich King and his phylactery keeps getting bigger.

[4:27] My source inside Disney told me that up to the release, there was a lot of positive word

[4:34] of mouth within the studio.

[4:35] They were like, this is going to be great.

[4:37] It's coming out great.

[4:38] So I'm curious about the movie because from a technical standpoint, there's a lot of really

[4:43] cool animation things in it.

[4:45] But from a story and a music and a character standpoint, there's a lot of moments in the

[4:48] movie where you're like, why is this happening?

[4:50] It's not that I'm confused about what's going on.

[4:53] It's because I don't know how this thing relates to that thing.

[4:56] Yeah.

[4:57] I don't know whether we should save the look of the film for later or should we talk about

[5:03] it now because you brought it up.

[5:05] I mean, let's talk about it.

[5:06] I mean, when the trailers first came out, I was like, I want to see this movie because

[5:09] there are aspects of it that look beautiful.

[5:12] But it doesn't.

[5:13] They're trying to meld traditional kind of painted backgrounds and colors and textures

[5:18] with CGI three dimensional stuff.

[5:21] And it doesn't.

[5:22] There are times when I think it looks gorgeous and there are times when it really does not

[5:25] work for me.

[5:26] Yeah, I agree.

[5:29] To me, the part of the movie that I came closest to liking was the look of the film.

[5:34] But I feel like they kind of half ass it.

[5:36] They like don't commit to like, we're going to do it like a throwback.

[5:42] The backgrounds look beautiful.

[5:44] The backgrounds that were gorgeous.

[5:46] Yeah, like traditionally done.

[5:47] And then they put some sort of layer of digital something to merge it together.

[5:51] And sugar, digital bakers sugar.

[5:53] Yeah.

[5:54] Yeah.

[5:55] Well, the digital sugar is what I like the least about it, because it does feel to me

[5:58] like they put like a Photoshop sort of storybook filter over everything, even though it looks

[6:03] good.

[6:05] Remind me a little bit of man.

[6:07] What were those?

[6:08] There's a couple of like video games or like part hand-drawn, part digital, or they had

[6:13] a look of like a hand-drawn thing.

[6:15] Like Cuphead, that kind of stuff?

[6:16] Or?

[6:17] Well, no, that was it was more of like it was they did one.

[6:19] It was like a story game.

[6:21] And it was like one based on The Walking Dead and then one based on the I think the Fables

[6:26] universe.

[6:30] I can't remember.

[6:31] The Grateful Dead.

[6:32] But it was that sort of thing where it's like everything has like a hard black outline.

[6:36] Yes.

[6:37] So it has the illusion of being hand-drawn.

[6:40] And it has the illusion of being hand-drawn, but it has that heaviness of kind of an attempt

[6:45] at realistic CJ.

[6:46] And like I found that the characters move kind of slowly.

[6:49] Well, that was.

[6:50] There's a part later where they are floating up in the air on books that are flying.

[6:53] They're standing on them.

[6:54] And it was moving so slowly.

[6:56] And I was like, dude, we've seen a Disney movie, The Flying Books in The Sword in the

[7:00] Stone.

[7:01] And the books move around fast and they look cool.

[7:02] You know, that's right.

[7:03] Yeah.

[7:04] I wanted to get at was like, I love the backgrounds.

[7:06] The characters like which are fully CG are they feel like the blandest sort of, you know,

[7:13] typical Disney designs for the most part like like what we've seen before.

[7:17] And I swear to God that the character animation has been getting worse over the years.

[7:23] Like there's just like there's no liveliness in these characters.

[7:28] They don't move particularly differently from one another.

[7:31] There's a lack of exaggeration.

[7:33] I think in a lot of animation in general, and I don't want to speak ill of animators

[7:37] because my assumption is that this is a direction that's been given is that there's been such

[7:42] an attempt over the past 20 years to replicate reality in animation rather than like Rick

[7:47] and Morty.

[7:48] Exactly.

[7:49] Yeah.

[7:50] The world we live in.

[7:51] This is more movie animation.

[7:52] I guess.

[7:53] But like there were times when I remember seeing Cars 3 in the theater with my kids and there

[7:56] were times when it just felt like I was just watching a truck driving down a road like

[7:59] a real one.

[8:00] And I was like, well, I don't really want to watch a movie about a real truck driving

[8:03] down a real road.

[8:04] Like I wanted to look at a cartoon.

[8:05] Unless it's Duel.

[8:06] Unless it's, no.

[8:07] I should preface this.

[8:08] If I'm watching an animated film about talking cars, then I don't want to see a real truck.

[8:13] I mean, or it's Fury Road.

[8:14] I want to see real trucks doing that stuff.

[8:16] What if you just made a mistake and you accidentally took your kids to the hitcher?

[8:20] That'd be a hard mistake to make.

[8:23] It's not a new movie.

[8:25] Yeah.

[8:26] Elliot's like the real life version of a meme.

[8:27] He's like, I'm going to tell my kids this was Cars 3.

[8:30] But I think there's a, well, when we did a Gnomeo and Juliet or Sherlock Gnomes, whichever

[8:35] one we did a while back, there were times when it was like, wow, the textures, these

[8:38] gnomes really look like they're made out of real ceramics.

[8:40] And it's like, yeah, but that's not why I go to an animated movie.

[8:43] That's what kids care about in a cartoon.

[8:45] Yeah.

[8:46] Yeah.

[8:47] And I think, I think, I think the character animation does err on that side of how would

[8:50] a real person move?

[8:51] And it's like, well, how would like a exaggerated person move?

[8:54] Like how would a funny person move?

[8:55] You know?

[8:56] Yeah.

[8:57] So you're not really getting much, like, aside from the, you know, the, the bevy of characters

[9:01] that all look like that, the kid from, uh, How to Train Your Dragon.

[9:05] Like, it's like a million of like mop top kids with giant noses and super skinny bodies.

[9:10] There's also a ton of characters and it does not need to be that many kids.

[9:13] There's, there's like a, the main character has a whole gang of friends who each have

[9:17] one kind of personality trait.

[9:19] Monica.

[9:20] Um, Chandler.

[9:21] Chandler.

[9:22] Joey.

[9:23] Yeah.

[9:24] Uh, Phoebe.

[9:25] Exactly.

[9:26] Uh, that monkey.

[9:27] What was his name?

[9:28] Marcel.

[9:29] Uh-huh.

[9:30] There's Ross.

[9:31] Of course.

[9:32] Not familiar.

[9:33] Forget Ross.

[9:34] No, but like she has that gang where it's like, one of them is always kind of sneaking

[9:39] around.

[9:40] And one of them is kind of a dumb guy.

[9:41] And it was like, and one of them is kind of a, is a very judgmental short gay boy.

[9:44] And it's like, I don't know why these characters are all here.

[9:46] You know?

[9:47] Well, can I tell you something about this?

[9:48] I looked up, uh, trivia, IMDb trivia about this again, IMDb, not necessarily like the

[9:54] best source, but I believe this one.

[9:56] Uh, and these characters were sort of loosely intended.

[10:00] to mimic the personalities of the dwarves,

[10:03] with one of them being grumpy,

[10:04] one of them being sneezy, et cetera.

[10:07] And if I had not read this trivia,

[10:10] I would never in a million years have believed

[10:13] that these characters have any personality,

[10:15] let alone the exaggerated personalities

[10:18] of the seven dwarves.

[10:19] It shows you when, I mean, when Disney is at its best

[10:22] and its best is, you know, it's hard to achieve.

[10:25] When it's at its best, it can take characters

[10:27] like the dwarves from Snow White

[10:29] and so quickly imbue them with personality

[10:32] and so quickly give you that feeling of like,

[10:35] I know this character and it's a funny character.

[10:37] Like, and yeah, this movie does feel like blander.

[10:40] It feels generic.

[10:41] There are times when I'm watching it where I'm like,

[10:42] this feels like another company trying to make a Disney movie

[10:45] which is kind of the worst thing you can say

[10:46] about a Disney movie, I guess.

[10:48] Yeah.

[10:48] Well, now that we've gotten you all excited about it.

[10:50] And you mentioned Sword in the Stone

[10:52] and I remember as a kid, how many times,

[10:54] like every time I got to see the fucking wizard duel.

[10:57] Yeah.

[10:58] Every time I was like edge of my seat, gripping the chair.

[11:03] And that's her one scene.

[11:04] She's not in the rest of the movie.

[11:05] And it's not like one of like the big,

[11:07] like canonical Disney classics even.

[11:10] But like, it's got so much spirit.

[11:12] Like that scene is great.

[11:13] Like the Mad Madam Meme.

[11:14] Right.

[11:15] Anyway, enough grousing.

[11:18] Let's get into the plot.

[11:19] Let's do some carousing.

[11:20] Dan, pop those brewskis.

[11:22] Woo.

[11:24] Okay, so as if to signal to the audience,

[11:28] this is a throwback to the Disney films of yore.

[11:31] We open with a storybook.

[11:35] I think that's exactly why they're doing it, Dan.

[11:36] No, I'm not being sarcastic.

[11:39] I'm telling.

[11:41] Well, I'm being sarcastic about the transparentness

[11:43] of the like effort to associate it

[11:47] with beloved properties of the past.

[11:51] But so we hear a story being told

[11:55] about a dude who really knows how important wishes are.

[11:58] He becomes a sorcerer to protect quote unquote wishes,

[12:01] which immediately I'm like,

[12:03] I don't know what that means to protect a wish

[12:05] against what, disillusionment, distraction?

[12:08] Like, what are we talking here?

[12:10] Maybe there was a wish thief or something

[12:11] that was running around, like a wish eater or something.

[12:14] His name is Magnifico, by the way.

[12:16] Yeah, Magnifico.

[12:17] The wish eater's name is Magnifico?

[12:19] I guess he kind of is.

[12:20] No, the king who protects the wishes.

[12:22] The king slash sorcerer is Magnifico,

[12:25] played by Chris Pine.

[12:27] Oh man, as Charlene overheard it

[12:29] and thought it was Jason Alexander.

[12:30] And when I told her it was Chris Pine,

[12:31] she's like, that's fucking bullshit.

[12:33] He's too pretty.

[12:34] Let someone else do this shit.

[12:36] I mean, the whole thing about Magnifico

[12:37] is he's supposed to be a handsome guy, right?

[12:38] Yeah, he's a pretty guy.

[12:40] And also their voices don't sound at all the same.

[12:42] I think that's also funny that she got Chris Pine's

[12:44] and Jason Alexander's voices.

[12:46] She's like, is this Duckman?

[12:47] He's playing the handsome sorcerer king of this kingdom?

[12:50] Who is that?

[12:51] Is that Harvey Fierstein?

[12:52] What's Gilbert Gottfried recorded this before he died?

[12:55] That's what you're telling me?

[12:56] A late June foray.

[12:58] Anyway.

[12:59] I mean, she could do anything though, Dan.

[13:01] She could do anything.

[13:02] Yeah, she's true.

[13:02] So yeah, he wants to protect wishes,

[13:06] question mark what that is, I don't know.

[13:08] And occasionally to grant them.

[13:10] And so he and his wife establish a wish island

[13:13] where people can live under his wish protection.

[13:15] A fantasy island, if you will.

[13:16] Yeah.

[13:17] And so we come out of the storybook to learn

[13:19] that this story is being told by our heroine, Asha,

[13:23] Arianna Joubos, who is talking to her grandfather

[13:26] who presumably knows all of this already

[13:28] because he lived on Wish Island.

[13:29] I'm not really sure why she is-

[13:31] Maybe he just showed up, I don't know.

[13:32] Maybe he just got there.

[13:34] Or the lady who was on the head, yeah.

[13:34] She's like, you know this, you live on Wish Island,

[13:37] grandpa, if you get lost,

[13:38] you have to be able to tell people, Wish Island.

[13:40] He's been there all his life

[13:42] because at some point we were talking to him

[13:44] He's been there all his life

[13:46] because at some point we learned that he made his wish

[13:48] when he was 18 that has not been granted yet

[13:51] and now he's a grandpa.

[13:52] I think it makes sense

[13:54] because old people like hearing

[13:56] and telling the same fucking stories over and over.

[13:59] They do like it. Fair enough.

[14:01] He is about to reach his 100th birthday too.

[14:03] So it's like, if that wish was given

[14:05] to Magnifico that long ago,

[14:06] how old is Magnifico supposed to be?

[14:08] Good question.

[14:09] Maybe his magic, yeah.

[14:11] Again, probably. Magic.

[14:13] Anyway, so there's a wish ceremony that night.

[14:16] This magic is kind of the gathering of wishes.

[14:19] You could say that, legally.

[14:23] Can't throw me in jail yet.

[14:25] Not till the Republicans get into office.

[14:27] Yeah, and then it's kids court all over again.

[14:29] LA, you're under arrest for not singing enough songs.

[14:37] Why can I suddenly not remember the guy

[14:39] who plays Saba's name?

[14:41] Oh, that's Victor Garber.

[14:42] Victor Garber, yes.

[14:43] Hell yeah.

[14:44] So a lot of musical-

[14:45] A heir to the Garber's baby food fortune.

[14:47] Not the same as Garber's.

[14:48] Different company.

[14:50] Not as big.

[14:51] Two members of musical royalty already in the cast.

[14:57] And it's his birthday, Saba, the grandfather.

[15:00] 100th birthday.

[15:01] And Asha's like, oh, there's a wish ceremony tonight.

[15:06] So it's your birthday.

[15:08] He's gotta finally, finally grant your wish.

[15:11] It's your birthday.

[15:12] Gonna grant a wish like your birthday.

[15:18] Asha runs off to her job as a tour guide, question mark?

[15:22] Or she's onboarding new Wish Island citizens?

[15:26] It's funny because they show up at Wish Island

[15:28] and my assumption is they're already into it.

[15:30] But it's almost like she's selling them on the ideas

[15:32] that they'll stay.

[15:33] So she's like a real estate agent for Wish Island.

[15:36] Or the City of Rosa is what it really is.

[15:38] It's not really called Wish Island.

[15:39] City of Rosa, yeah.

[15:41] She's like a hype man for the whole city.

[15:43] Yeah, she sings a song that kind of reiterates

[15:45] for the third time what we already know about this island.

[15:48] It is such a ripoff of the opening song from Encanto

[15:52] in the kind of like, the tone of it,

[15:54] what it's trying to accomplish,

[15:55] the fact that she's like awkward while she's singing it

[15:57] and getting interrupted by things.

[15:59] This movie, the songs in this movie,

[16:00] I'll just take a moment because it's the first song.

[16:01] The songs in this movie are trying so hard to be

[16:04] Lin-Manuel Miranda or Disney classic type songs

[16:07] at different times.

[16:08] And they're cramming so many lyrics

[16:09] into every line of every song.

[16:12] And it was really bothering me.

[16:14] I saw this movie in theaters when it first came out

[16:16] with my kids.

[16:17] And this stuff didn't bother me as much

[16:18] because of the magic of the movies.

[16:20] And I was probably spending a lot of time

[16:20] telling my kids to stop fighting over the popcorn and stuff

[16:23] so I wasn't paying as close attention.

[16:25] But this time the songs really got to me

[16:26] that they like the lyrics.

[16:28] And this is coming from me,

[16:29] a guy who makes up dumb songs

[16:31] where there's too many lyrics for a meter.

[16:33] Like the lyrics are just crammed in there, yeah.

[16:35] No, I would agree that these are not of a high level,

[16:41] particularly in the grand tradition of Disney songs.

[16:43] Like there's a couple of moments where they have the-

[16:45] Give me a classic.

[16:46] What's a classic Disney song?

[16:47] Well, the one that is evoked at the end,

[16:50] When You Wish Upon A Star, for instance, is a,

[16:52] or I mean, but even like, I don't know,

[16:54] from like less known, not less known,

[16:57] but like less huge ones.

[16:58] Like Peter Pan has a bunch of great songs.

[17:02] You're not talking about-

[17:04] Yeah, you're talking about that one.

[17:05] It's not that one.

[17:06] It's not that one.

[17:07] But like, think of a wonderful thought,

[17:09] any happy little thought.

[17:10] I'm not gonna sing any more or Disney will come after us.

[17:13] Be Our Guest is an amazing song.

[17:15] Be Our Guest.

[17:15] You know, like Beauty and the Beast is an amazing song.

[17:17] Those are from the same movie,

[17:18] but like the Circle of Life is a great song.

[17:20] Under the Sea.

[17:21] Yeah.

[17:22] There's that like-

[17:23] Under the Sea, right?

[17:24] Under the Sea is a great song.

[17:24] Under the Sea, Kiss the Girl.

[17:25] Poor Unfortunate Souls is a great song.

[17:26] Even from like Hunchback of Notre Dame,

[17:28] that Hellfire song that, what's his name?

[17:30] Frollo Sings?

[17:31] Yeah, the super hot one, yeah.

[17:32] Yeah, that's a sexy song.

[17:33] That's a great song.

[17:35] Like Disney songs are among the best songs in any movies.

[17:38] They're not the best song ever written for a movie.

[17:40] In my opinion, that's probably Over the Rainbow.

[17:42] You know, but like-

[17:43] Oh, I thought it was Everybody Wants Some

[17:45] from Better Off Dead.

[17:46] I was sure you were gonna go with that Doc and-

[17:48] Yeah.

[17:49] Dream Warriors.

[17:50] Doc and Dream Warriors, yeah.

[17:51] Oh yeah, yeah,

[17:52] because even Freddie is like, who are those guys?

[17:54] Who are those guys?

[17:55] Man, they're crazy.

[17:56] But Disney songs, again, it's a high benchmark to reach.

[17:59] Like there are a bunch of great songs in Moana.

[18:02] Like the thing I think that made Encanto a success

[18:04] were the songs in that movie, you know?

[18:06] So it's, but these ones are not quite at that level.

[18:09] Yeah.

[18:10] These are more along the lines of like,

[18:11] whatever songs are probably in the Fox and the Hound

[18:13] that I don't remember, you know?

[18:14] Or the Aristocats, you know?

[18:16] Yeah.

[18:17] Everybody Wants To Be A Cat, that's in the Aristocats.

[18:19] Name another song from the Aristocats, Dan.

[18:21] That's the only one I can.

[18:22] But at least that one has one that I remember.

[18:25] That's true.

[18:26] So-

[18:27] Are there any songs in The Black Cauldron?

[18:28] Probably not, right?

[18:30] I don't think so,

[18:32] unless there's like a zombie marching song

[18:34] that I'm forgetting.

[18:35] But there must be songs in like Home On The Range, right?

[18:37] I've never seen that movie.

[18:39] I've also never seen Home On The Range.

[18:40] Or Brother Bear.

[18:41] Another one I've never seen.

[18:42] Road To El Dorado.

[18:43] That's not a Disney movie, that's pretty much.

[18:45] Oh.

[18:46] Or like Treasure Planet.

[18:47] I bet that has songs in it.

[18:48] I've never seen it, you know?

[18:50] I gotta watch these.

[18:51] Atlantis, never saw that one.

[18:53] I gotta see it.

[18:54] Dan, you're making me really wanna see

[18:55] all the Disney movies I missed when I had no reason to.

[18:57] Yeah, I think I saw Atlantis

[19:00] and it has some interesting animation,

[19:02] but it's pretty dull.

[19:03] Didn't like Mike Mignola or somebody get involved in that?

[19:06] Yeah, he did some design work for it, yeah.

[19:08] What about Dinosaur?

[19:09] Do you remember that one?

[19:11] Was that an animated one?

[19:12] Or was that-

[19:13] It was a CGI animated one, yeah.

[19:15] Yeah, only vaguely.

[19:16] Okay, but let's get back to Wish.

[19:18] What movie are we talking about, Wish?

[19:19] Oh, right.

[19:20] There's a movie, a little movie called Wish.

[19:21] Wish, what movie are we talking about?

[19:23] About Wishes.

[19:24] Oh.

[19:25] Not just a singular Wish.

[19:26] Wishes in general.

[19:28] So, she visits her friend in the castle.

[19:32] This is her friend that I'm told

[19:34] is supposed to be the doc of the group

[19:36] because she has glasses and is sensible.

[19:38] I see.

[19:39] But her job is to make cookies

[19:41] in the shape of Magnifico's face for Magnifico to eat.

[19:45] And this is where we learn that Asha has an interview

[19:47] to be the apprentice to the king slash sorcerer.

[19:52] And we meet some other characters,

[19:53] including Simon, who has had some sort of light

[19:56] extinguished in him because of his,

[19:59] the lack of the grants.

[20:00] of his wish uh they're all less than 18 so creeps back off and so they haven't yet given their wish

[20:06] at 18 to give your wish and simon is over 18 and gave his wish and since then has been

[20:10] is no everyone is like you're dumber and more boring to give your wish you seem narcoleptic

[20:15] now um and then there's a gabbo who is supposed to be annoying but i found him so viscerally

[20:23] unlikable that i wanted something to kick him right out of the film um perhaps judge doom to

[20:30] show up and with a bag of dip thrown in some dip right uh irritating and he's not irritating in

[20:36] a like manic way he's irritating in a like i'm sarcastically judging everybody yeah like why

[20:41] are we friends with this guy sort of yeah he's mean to everybody um anyway she goes to her

[20:47] interview there's a bunch of other all memorable yeah uh there's a guy who's allergic to lemons so

[20:55] he sneezes on a cookie uh that makes him the sneezy of the group and that's the only thing

[21:00] i recall about that guy man you guys did a great job these are not everything just kind of worshed

[21:06] over me yeah so he's so he's voiced i only found this at efforts he's voiced by rami yusef the the

[21:13] comedian and the star of rami and it's mostly like this this part is so small why did you

[21:16] bother getting someone who's a named person to do it like you know ching ching uh what was that

[21:23] money sounds like that's money sound well i know why he would do it i don't know why disney didn't

[21:27] and throw some money to a to a less famous person if they throw it to him then he's

[21:31] you know they get the uh the rami yusef bump that's true good point yeah um so she goes in

[21:37] for an interview and meets uh king chris pine who uh that's his name in the movie

[21:43] she's fiddling with a magical book and he says that don't touch that dangerous whatever

[21:48] magical book the bible

[21:52] she is she is so over the top nervous and anxious like in the way that i guess all female main

[21:58] characters have to be now to balance out being beautiful that like well this character is

[22:02] beautiful she better be like an anxious nervous mess all the time and not be able to talk about

[22:06] anything else do you think the main character is beautiful yeah let's explore this i mean

[22:16] she's drawn to be a beautiful young girl it's not that i'm attracted to her okay man

[22:20] sure no i just i'm funny to any disney princess it is pocahontas have you seen her she is beautiful

[22:27] i'm enjoying passing this on only because i did that cartoon sex presentation uh for a lot of our

[22:32] live shows and people oh i don't recall reacted as if like i was saying like hey i find all this

[22:38] stuff to be my thing when like whatever it's your thing that's fine it's not it's not necessarily

[22:42] mine but it's not not using it's not your thing but it's not not your thing i feel like dan is

[22:47] more of just like a uh he's like an uwatu the watcher he catalogs it all but he never interacts

[22:53] i've got an anthony lane like uh fondness for uh this is incredible i just don't then

[22:59] you know write in the pages of the new yorker about how horny i am for her

[23:03] and how everyone's erections are gonna spring up their popcorn buckets or whatever i think

[23:08] it was i think it was michael kupferman who wrote a parody of that where he that he made

[23:12] it look like a real thing where he talks about running having to run into the men's room and

[23:16] jack off because he's so and put up on twitter and people were like i can't believe he wrote

[23:21] that in the new yorker uh i love it um anyway so she's fumbling this interview a little bit

[23:27] because she's uh so nervous but then she talks about losing her father and uh that uh he's a

[23:34] philosopher who always looked at the stars yeah that makes magnifico bond with her over his own

[23:40] loss which is never really defined no there's some undescribed trauma that led him to escape

[23:45] to this island and create it as a kind of refuge for refugees and become a and become a vengeful

[23:51] sorcerer king yes become a control freak become like we've got to like i have to protect everyone

[23:57] you know like either by like making them you know taking their wishes or granting their wishes you

[24:03] know but uh speaking of wishes yeah let's talk about he takes her into the wish room uh where

[24:10] he shows her everyone's wishes floating around like little bubbly sort of snow globey things

[24:15] they're like little they're almost like um memory holograms you know where you like you look at it

[24:20] and it replays the wish over and over again that's a visual yeah yeah a wish you will and

[24:24] that i wish a little faster dan it's the sort of thing that i've seen in movies i don't know a

[24:30] million times wow a million you've seen a lot of movies i've seen a lot of movies guys just check

[24:35] my letter box and later on chris when chris pine spoiler he turns bad when he later on when he

[24:42] turns even more bad he's picking up wishes that are explicitly the plots of other disney movies

[24:46] and then destroying them and i'm like so is this is he is this the this movie saying like i'm

[24:52] destroying previous disney movies you don't need them anymore you know i mean i think that you know

[24:58] spoiler alert it's a disney movie it ends happily it seems like those wishes are freed when he is uh

[25:03] you know uh vanquished but uh anyway i guess he's not destroyed i will say though the the use of

[25:08] disney past in this movie i found less egregious than in ralph breaks the internet where all the

[25:14] disney princesses are like whatever we'll do whatever we got to make ralph the star of all

[25:18] disney sure we'll do it and it was like snow white cinderella come on like you're bigger than this

[25:22] movie what do you do what are you doing yeah they are big it's the pictures they got small yeah um

[25:27] i mean they're postage stamps very small pictures he you know is inclined to give her the job at

[25:33] this point and uh she asked the king to grant her grandfather's wish but uh magnifico is like

[25:40] oh the wish is too vague he wants to inspire the next generation but inspire them to watch

[25:45] something bad like revolt and the and the wish is literally just the grandfather playing the

[25:49] mandolin and people enjoying it like his wish is really just i want to play the mandolin so well

[25:53] people like me you know yeah he didn't say that though he said he wants to inspire the next

[25:58] generation which is in magnifico's defense a very vague and it is also a hard wish to grant because

[26:06] if there's anything the next generation is probably not interested is a hundred-year-old

[26:09] man's mandolin playing yeah this was this was in my notes i i i think it's a obviously a weird

[26:17] uh justification he offers it's more about his uh wanting to make sure that he has an iron grip on

[26:22] power than anything else but you know from the standpoint of a wish it's like you live on a

[26:27] wishing island you can come up with a less vague wish and i just i want to inspire the next generation

[26:33] with music something specific guys you know uh make it easier why don't you just say like

[26:40] i want to fucking play the mandolin a bunch and have young people be like

[26:43] sick yeah yeah do a big rip off those vape pens

[26:53] um so actually for the record there are no vape pens present in the movie yeah oh

[26:59] lame asha realizes that the king is just keeping a bunch of wishes he doesn't intend to grant and

[27:05] she's like well if you're not gonna grant them why not give them back these are like essential

[27:09] parts of these people and because also when you give your wish when you give your wish to him you

[27:13] forget it all you know is there's a special part of you this thing you desire more than anything

[27:17] else that exists as an idea somewhere but you don't know what it is you no longer have it in

[27:22] you which is a weird aspect of it because then it's well then it's one why are you missing it

[27:28] so badly if you don't know what it was but also why would you give up even the knowledge of it you

[27:31] know well i think it's not less that you're missing it but like it's it's some essential

[27:36] part of you that you have given away you're giving part of your soul or your heart yeah yeah but uh

[27:40] so this is where if only only magnifico could just take that away from me wow i will unpack

[27:47] that maybe in the mini we're not gonna unpack it no i don't think so um so it pays us 150

[27:54] for the hour or 50 minutes rather wow that's pretty that's a pretty affordable therapy

[28:00] yeah that's what yeah i'm not accredited therapist you guys this is how you guys can

[28:05] you guys can write me prescriptions for medication right i can we can write them but

[28:11] i can prescribe you consumer goods that are available you know over the counter oh cool

[28:17] i'd be like you need a new hairbrush that kind of stuff or like a sleeve full of oreos will

[28:21] cure your depression yes yeah exactly but for how long not that long no but you know if they're

[28:28] a placebo now imagining stewart pouring a package of oreos into the sleeves of his shirt

[28:33] when this is what dr dan said it isn't working yet oh amelia bedelia so yeah this is where we

[28:40] learned that the king is like sort of over paternal this control freak he's like better

[28:46] like unrealized wishes cause people pain better i keep them safe and they forget about it and uh

[28:51] she does not like that uh and he's got like daddy vibes too right he's like a handsome gray-haired

[28:57] guy with a little van dyke mm-hmm yeah like he's kind of drawn as like he looks kind of like a

[29:03] handsome hero guy he looks like you know a cartoon chris pine he's uh he's definitely less crazy

[29:09] beard because well yeah chris pine has this amazing beard i'm not saying off hours chris

[29:14] pine where he's you know wandering around in like a huge cardigan yep like a v-neck

[29:22] shirt i mean it squares with the one time i saw him in person yeah um i'm talking about you know

[29:27] he's in character yeah yeah uh anyway at the evening ceremony this guy is a real character

[29:32] the witch ceremony send his ass to tbs right wait is it tbs or usa usa usa was where characters

[29:40] not allow him in yet they say you have to wait in mexico until we start welcoming characters

[29:48] let me read the checklist of what we're looking for are you very funny no but i'm a character i

[29:52] heard characters are welcome that's usa this is tbs i'm offended offended and then he's like

[30:00] Team, will you help me? Are you drama? We should know, because we do know drama.

[30:04] What about FX? FX, will you let me in? No, we have the movies. We don't need any more.

[30:08] We're holding them hostage.

[30:09] What about Arby's? We have the meats. You're not meat. You're an animated figure.

[30:13] A hostage exchange. Meats for movies.

[30:16] Meats for movies.

[30:18] Yeah, that's the charity that I do. Meats for movies.

[30:21] I'll trade movies for meat or vice versa. I don't care.

[30:23] Yeah, you got to get those meats off the streets.

[30:26] Is that a charity or is that just the barter system?

[30:28] It's a charity for me. I get something out of it that I like.

[30:31] You're losing your beloved meats.

[30:33] There's always more meat where that came from, Dan.

[30:36] It's ominous. Okay, anyway, so at the evening wish ceremony, the king tells her that she will

[30:42] obviously not be his princess, but he is going to protect Saba and her mother's wishes forever.

[30:48] By never granting them.

[30:51] At dinner, she tries to tell her family about all this, but Saba gets mad because he's like,

[30:55] why would you tell me about a wish that I've forgotten, and I will now know that I'll never

[30:59] have. And so she runs off to sing a song about her feelings, and she makes a wish on her star

[31:08] in the song for, quote, something more than this. So I guess the whole family is vague wishmakers.

[31:13] They can't be specific about their wants.

[31:16] The lyrics in these songs are very vague, and when we get to the song,

[31:20] You're a Star, whatever it is, then we're in the middle of something where it's like,

[31:24] none of this even makes sense. This is just nonsense verbiage.

[31:28] But she wishes for something more than standing there with a goat at her side.

[31:32] Her goat, Valentino?

[31:34] More than this. There's something more than this.

[31:41] Right?

[31:41] Yeah, no, yeah.

[31:42] You know?

[31:42] That's pretty good.

[31:43] I don't.

[31:44] Roxy Music, Avalon.

[31:46] That song's not Avalon. It's off the album Avalon.

[31:48] It's off the Avalon album.

[31:49] More than this is what it's called.

[31:51] Man, that album sleeve looks sick. It's like a dude with a fucking falcon,

[31:55] and then you listen to it and you're like, this isn't falcon music.

[31:58] No, it's not at all.

[31:59] The adultest of contemporary music, but I like the album a lot.

[32:02] And then the movie they made, Welcome Home, Roxy Music, also not what I expected.

[32:07] Welcome Home, Roxy Car Music.

[32:09] Yeah.

[32:10] Also the movie.

[32:10] Featuring music by the cars.

[32:12] The Barry Levinson movie Avalon is not a very good adaptation of that album either.

[32:16] A lot of development work went into changing that. Yeah, they just had the name in the end.

[32:20] Yeah.

[32:20] Anyway, so her wish causes a magical light to go across the island of the king.

[32:24] It's like, what's up? Someone's using magic.

[32:27] And everybody loves this light.

[32:28] Nobody can talk about anything other than this light.

[32:30] And they think the king did it.

[32:31] And he's like, I didn't do it. Stop talking about it.

[32:34] Turns out the light is from a magical anthropomorphic star that's fallen to earth.

[32:39] And the star plays with ash and her pet goat for a while.

[32:44] Sprinkling stardust around that gives plants and animals the ability to speak.

[32:48] I thought I would call the star a kind of R2D2 type figure.

[32:54] Yeah.

[32:54] You know.

[32:55] Yeah, like a minion.

[32:56] Yes, like a minion, but not as bonkers and manic.

[33:00] And it's not like the genie from Aladdin because it has no personality other than kind of being

[33:04] kind of like a baby, like an innocent baby.

[33:06] It's cute.

[33:07] I mean, like in a movie that is low on memorable characters, the star would,

[33:17] you know, in my power rankings would be, you know, one of the higher characters.

[33:20] I mean, but not as high as Valentino, right?

[33:22] No, Valentino voiced by Alan Tudyk.

[33:26] The goat?

[33:26] Voiced by Alan Tudyk?

[33:28] Yeah, yeah.

[33:29] No, the veteran voice actor, Alan Tudyk.

[33:32] The star, Magnifico.

[33:34] Of other Disney movies.

[33:35] Resident Alien himself, Alan Tudyk.

[33:38] King Candy himself.

[33:39] King Candy.

[33:41] The man with two dicks.

[33:42] Now, not my favorite Disney movie, but it's pretty good.

[33:46] The man with two dicks.

[33:47] Yes, that was the last one that Walt worked on before they froze him.

[33:50] Yeah.

[33:51] It really shows that he was losing it a little bit.

[33:53] Yeah.

[33:55] So.

[33:56] No, I love Alan Tudyk.

[33:57] See our dicks.

[33:58] We have two dicks.

[33:59] That was a big song at the time.

[34:02] It's really weird.

[34:02] Yeah, it's really weird that they made a movie about the director, the voice actor.

[34:08] But it makes sense.

[34:09] It seems crazy until you start watching it and it all makes sense.

[34:12] So I got a question.

[34:13] It's better than it sounds, yeah.

[34:14] If they had made the star character like a Genie from Aladdin type character,

[34:22] who should have been the big personality voice?

[34:25] Who are we talking?

[34:26] Are we talking Kevin Hart?

[34:28] I probably.

[34:29] There's a time when it would have been Chris Tucker.

[34:31] There's a time when it would have been.

[34:35] Has Kevin Hart done a voice in a Disney movie?

[34:37] I don't know if he has.

[34:40] I'm going to look up Kevin Hart voice acting.

[34:42] Maybe if he's scripted, it would be fine.

[34:45] I've been seeing him do like the Olympic stuff recently, like with Keenan as his co-host.

[34:53] And like Keenan's great.

[34:55] When Snoop Dogg came on, he was great.

[34:58] When John Cena came on, he was funny.

[35:01] Kevin Hart is floundering in this show.

[35:05] I forgot Kevin Hart's done a bunch of animated stuff.

[35:08] So, yeah, he might.

[35:09] I bet you they would have had him or someone like him.

[35:12] Him or the younger version of him, you know?

[35:15] Anyway.

[35:16] Although with the general kind of blandness of the movie,

[35:17] maybe it would be like Colin Jost or someone like that.

[35:20] You know, they sing a song at this point saying that it's possible.

[35:25] The fact that why is it possible that they can all talk now?

[35:27] Because they're all the same.

[35:29] To borrow a quote from Carl Sagan.

[35:31] We're all made of star stuff.

[35:34] Asha, these mushrooms, the star, all star stuff.

[35:38] Valentino, the talking goat, now that he's talking.

[35:42] And I'm like, whatever, man, fine, sure.

[35:44] This is the most, I just read a book.

[35:48] I just read a Carl Sagan book and I'm super excited and I want to explain it to you.

[35:52] But I don't really understand the book that I read type of song.

[35:56] Nothing's connected.

[35:57] They're like, hey, you wondering how animals can talk because a magic star came down?

[36:00] Well, we're all made of star stuff.

[36:02] So you know what?

[36:03] You're a star.

[36:04] Believe in yourself.

[36:04] And I'm like, what is this song about?

[36:06] Like, what's going on?

[36:07] And they're like, there's a deer will have like a California surfer dude type voice and

[36:13] things like that.

[36:14] None of it makes any sense.

[36:15] Classic character.

[36:16] Yeah, I love Stu's sad, shaking his head.

[36:19] Like, you know, he's just resigned to what I'll say is I feel like of the songs.

[36:25] This one has stuff going on.

[36:27] Yeah, like a lot of stuff going on.

[36:29] It's all disconnected, but it helps that it's a lot of animals so they can be slightly more

[36:35] cartoony than the humans in the movie that move herky jerky like they're in an episode

[36:40] of Reboot or something.

[36:42] Yeah, they do.

[36:44] Yeah.

[36:45] So Asha and the star realized that they shouldn't just waste this magic giving goats the voice

[36:51] of Alan Tudyk, even though that's a fun thing to do.

[36:54] They should go to the castle, get those wishes.

[36:58] And meanwhile, the king feels threatened due to his past trauma and almost uses the forbidden

[37:04] book of forbidden magic.

[37:06] But the queen is able to talk him down for now.

[37:11] Asha takes the star to the castle and confides with her friends that she has a star, and

[37:16] this is revealed to them via a chicken dance number.

[37:21] A bunch of chickens doing a thing conducted by the goat.

[37:25] Yep.

[37:25] The goat is directing them.

[37:27] Again, the magic has allowed them to express their inner dancers.

[37:30] Oh, OK.

[37:31] Like a chorus line or something.

[37:34] Yeah, very much.

[37:34] So it's a big Broadway type dance number.

[37:36] It's the kind of thing that Disney would often do to finish a big song in their movies.

[37:40] But here it just kind of happens in a closet.

[37:43] Yeah.

[37:44] I mean, on the one hand, I don't want to argue with it because it's something that's

[37:47] happening that has a little bit of fun.

[37:49] On the other hand, like it's like, well, what is this?

[37:52] No, Dan, Dan, I feel like we didn't scratch the surface of that song.

[37:55] I'm a star and how it is.

[37:56] So I just want to read.

[37:58] So here's the part where they say, see, we were all just little nebula in a nursery from

[38:02] supernovas.

[38:03] Now we've grown into our history.

[38:04] We're taking wise right out of mystery closure.

[38:06] Now we're taking in all the star exposure.

[38:08] And you're like, what?

[38:10] What did any of that?

[38:11] And later on, they start all saying about how he goes, here's a little fun allegory

[38:14] that gets me excitatory.

[38:16] This might sink in in the morning.

[38:17] We are our origin story.

[38:19] It's like, nope, didn't.

[38:21] I don't know what's going on in the song.

[38:22] It's an H versus a different animal or tree or mushroom that is like, hey, let me explain

[38:27] it to you.

[38:28] Here's some more nonsense that doesn't make any sense.

[38:30] So it's a it's it's as if you took the whole movie of cats and crammed it into one song

[38:36] and it made it less.

[38:37] Yeah, yeah.

[38:38] So it's a song where, yeah, they keep attempting to explain, but it keeps getting stranger

[38:42] and more esoteric.

[38:44] Yeah, but she does not react in a way she doesn't act like it's nonsense.

[38:48] She gets it pretty much right away.

[38:50] She's like, oh, I understand.

[38:51] Yeah, that's why magic.

[38:52] OK, but it is what it does.

[38:54] Having you saying that, so it does open up because it feels like reading a book written

[38:57] by a warlock about magic.

[38:59] If you've ever read like an occult nonfiction book all the time, it's like they're always

[39:03] like, allow me to explain.

[39:04] And then they say something that makes even less sense.

[39:06] It is even more complicated.

[39:08] And they're like a way to understand that is.

[39:09] And then they say something that is even harder to understand than what they just said.

[39:12] So it's kind of like that.

[39:15] So Asha sneaks around.

[39:16] But then the occult book that you wrote was great book you wrote of occult spells.

[39:20] That was great.

[39:21] It was very clear.

[39:22] Yeah.

[39:23] The snack.

[39:29] Yeah, Nacho Lathotep, the crunching chaos.

[39:36] So Asha sneaks around trying to get those wishes.

[39:40] She's causes all these sorts of magical hijinks.

[39:44] She does it.

[39:44] The star just starts blasting.

[39:47] Well, I mean, I think the blame is shared anyway.

[39:50] Meanwhile, the king is outside downstairs making a speech about how there's an unknown

[39:54] magic user putting everyone at risk.

[39:56] He needs information.

[39:58] Her best friend, the baker downstairs.

[40:00] We want information and Patrick McGoohan says you won't get it and then he says by book or by crook we will

[40:07] Yeah, well, I am not a wish. I am a free star

[40:10] Kids love this shit. They love it. They're like, are you a number?

[40:15] The good question. I am not a number. Uh next question any follow-up

[40:18] Uh, is there like a weird giant white bubble that falls and sucks you? Oh my god. Those are wishes

[40:23] I'm, so glad you asked. Yes. That's a giant wish that absorbs you. Uh, yeah

[40:28] The wish overtakes you. I mean if your wish is to be absorbed by a giant white bubble then we got it, baby

[40:36] In line, uh, no look there's like sparks and stuff coming out of the tower. So the band sparks elliot's paper

[40:42] That would be

[40:44] This movie would have turned around immediately if sparks had shown up and done a song in it. Oh would have been great

[40:49] Um, so to distract the king from the hijinks happening behind him

[40:53] The baker asks a question and then that leaves the citizenry to ask a bunch of questions

[40:59] The whole system that they live under. Yeah. Yeah, the king is confronted with all dictator what all dictators fear. Uh, you know, uh,

[41:06] a questioning, uh citizenry, um,

[41:09] And uh, so it's time for the uh, the iron iron fist, right?

[41:14] He's like danny rand

[41:16] Who can channel all of his power and to make his fist onto a thing of iron?

[41:20] I mean, that's the thing. I didn't I didn't care for asian martial arts until a white guy with a mask started doing it

[41:27] I'll just let you guys tie yourselves out a little bit

[41:29] no, dan, i'll never get tired talking about the iron fist the lead run and

[41:33] Anyway, the city of kunlun. It's a magical city that only appears every now and then

[41:38] No at this point magnifico gets angry

[41:39] He's like it's all you care about is wishes and i'm like man, you built a whole wish-based society. You were at fault here

[41:46] Uh, why does everyone at the cran factory talk about the crayons all the time?

[41:52] He goes and he sings a petulant song about how he wants unquestioned love, uh, and I gotta say chris pine

[41:59] Yeah, is this pine's voice?

[42:00] Yeah, he was a pretty good singer in into the woods and here he feels like he's struggling with this song

[42:05] Oh, who's he playing into the woods? He's one of the one of the princes princes

[42:09] Yeah, I mean his performance in agony is really is really fun

[42:11] Yeah, they do they do that song really well in that movie. I think this one of the few things that movie does well

[42:16] Yeah, yeah, it's uh, I think this this song he's trying his hardest

[42:20] This is a tough song like he has to keep because it's also like they keep interjecting slang into it

[42:25] Like he has to change attitude between yeah from one line of lyrics to the next and it's a long song

[42:30] A lot of it is sort of like speaks song

[42:34] Yes, rex harrison style. I will say this is one of the catchier songs to me

[42:38] In the movie, I mean there's some verve going on because you know, we got one of the more energetic voice actors at least but

[42:46] Anyway, asha manages to escape but only with saba's wish and uh, she takes it to him. He reabsorbs it into his body

[42:55] A little creepy. Yeah. Yeah, uh kind of existence style. Yeah

[43:00] And they're happy for a moment. But then the king shows up and tells asha she's been turned in

[43:06] and uh

[43:07] He at this point he crushes her mom's wish in his hand and monologues about how all the time he was protecting these wishes

[43:13] But he didn't realize all the power that they could give him when he crushes it. He absorbs it existence style

[43:19] and uh

[43:20] The star distress when you go to what when you go to uh, when you go out for dinner

[43:25] You want you you ask when they say do you want this existence style? Do you ever say yes?

[43:28] I've never said yes. Well, they bring the bread out and then I just mush it in my hand and I absorb it

[43:33] Yeah, I mean well my problem is i'm afraid i'm gonna get like a soup that i'm gonna need to assemble and i'm not

[43:39] I don't like making models. I'm it's not my thing. You don't want deconstructed food

[43:42] You want the cook to do the work? Not you? Yeah, I see steward's face like look man

[43:47] You know, we're different people you I can you'll yeah

[43:50] My problem is you can have my soup when I eat a chicken or a duck like you know me

[43:53] I eat the bones I crunch them and I start to throw out and then if the waiter is like

[43:57] Oh, you were supposed to make a gun out of that. I'd be like, oh

[44:00] That's the problem. Maybe my tummy will do it

[44:04] I'll poop it out. Can I poop out the gun?

[44:07] Yes, the bathroom is over there. So the star distracts the king enough for them to escape

[44:12] Asha sends her family off the island in a boat but stays to help the citizenry

[44:17] And honestly, like it seems like it should be easier to help them

[44:21] Especially at this point when magnifico is not like super powerful because she's got a wish-granting star on her side

[44:28] like there's so much in this plot that i'm like

[44:30] You have a fucking magic star just like cut through like cut through the knot here and

[44:36] Do what you got to do?

[44:38] Let some more animals talk

[44:39] Yeah

[44:40] the ability to to to uh

[44:41] Kind of warp reality by letting animals speak you think would be would play a greater part in the solution

[44:47] I'm surprised more of the animals aren't like stop eating us

[44:54] Wouldn't that have been crazy that's what happened in this

[44:57] It would be yeah

[44:58] Hey, you know what? Maybe you don't maybe don't put us into zoos because we can talk

[45:02] Yeah, like a staunch like vegan message in this 100 years of disney movie

[45:08] Um, so anyway back at the castle

[45:11] The king is crushing people's wishes left and right to take their power. Yeah

[45:16] And this new power mad version of chris pine can no longer be talked down by his wife

[45:22] Uh, and she has to be the only break on on his on his megalomaniacal tendencies, but now doesn't work anymore

[45:29] so he has a big rally where uh, the

[45:32] Betrayer of asha is revealed to be simon

[45:35] Who uh you calling it a rally makes me so wish that they had made more of a trump parallel out of it

[45:40] They'd be like, you know, you see this these people running around with wishes or stars. What's the star doing?

[45:46] I don't I shouldn't say this. Okay. I'll say it. I shouldn't say this. Do we need stars?

[45:50] Why can't the sky be dark all the time? Why can't we have the sun all the time?

[45:53] I shouldn't say it stars are lazy. The sun's lazy. Okay, I said it I said it, you know

[45:59] I can't just I think it is so funny that hannibal lecter has become a thing that he has to bring up in every speech

[46:05] Has he I I again i've been not paying attention

[46:08] He brings it up a lot the late great. He used to say and they'd be like hannibal lecter

[46:13] Not a nice guy. He wants you for dinner. It's like why is this? Why are you talking about this?

[46:18] I do appreciate elliot that despite him being

[46:20] An oft imitated man you chose just to imitate the cadence of his voice and I don't need to do his actual tone of voice

[46:26] I don't need to do that. Yeah

[46:28] um, I do I do find his cadence very funny though because it is it is a voice that says

[46:33] I don't know what i'm saying now and I don't know what i'm gonna say next

[46:36] It is as much a mystery to me as it is to you

[46:39] There's like a there's like a delight in his own voice says it. Oh, well, that's where that thought was going, you know

[46:43] Yeah, if he if he was just like a weird monologist

[46:47] We could like that would be an alternate reality. I could live with I mean, he's essentially professor erwin

[46:52] Corey at that point, uh, you know an american comedy legend

[46:55] Uh, anyway, so the the simon has given ash up, uh in return for his wish being granted he could no longer

[47:02] Uh live a life without his way. He was too despondent

[47:05] Uh, so because his friends kept telling him ever since you lost your wish you've been a real piece of shit. Yeah

[47:11] You've been a real dumb ass ever since you lost your wish. Why'd you do that idiot?

[47:14] And he's like everyone does it I understand why did it affect me so much more than everyone else?

[47:20] I don't know dumb ass

[47:22] Uh, asha sends a talking mouse to the queen check out wish for her over here

[47:26] It gives away his wish can't think straight. Oh, yeah, it sends the talking mouse over to talk to the queen. Yeah. Yeah, uh

[47:32] All the friends gather in the baker's like sort of hidden

[47:36] Room where she goes to central perk. Yeah. Yeah

[47:41] And she sings a song to explain the plot up till now to them kind of yeah

[47:46] The queen shows up. They do like some light like light show stuff. Yeah, they do some shadow stuff

[47:51] It's this is like this is like the serious we're getting ready for a rebellion song

[47:56] This is not again not one of the worst songs I think in the in the movie

[47:59] No, it's it's got like a you know, like a drum thing

[48:01] It's more driving more excitement, but they could have done a lot more of the shadow puppet idea. I feel like this is like

[48:07] Such a visually potentially interesting idea that they do not do much with but the queen also shows up to join the revolutionary song

[48:13] I wanted to say sorry

[48:15] This I was looking up. I was doing some research about these songs. Uh, uh earlier just reading reddit boards about them and

[48:21] Um, they were one of the people they were like compare this song to a kind of similar feeling song

[48:27] Which is i'm gonna make a man out of you. I was gonna say that

[48:30] Yeah, and how just how great that song is and how this one is this

[48:34] And what they were pointing out was the lyrics are so literal

[48:36] That there's not a lot of metaphor or kind of like physical examples or things. There's kind of literally saying

[48:42] I thought this and now I know this don't get fooled by that because this is what happened and it's

[48:47] It just feels very it doesn't do a lot on a on a poetic level, you know compared to that song

[48:51] Which is a great song. Yeah, mysterious is the dark side of the moon. Come on. It's great

[48:56] Um, so the queen is on their side

[49:00] Uh, she sneaks asha's friends into the wish chamber

[49:02] And meanwhile asha is going to trying to distract the king away from the castle

[49:06] The only person who has magic is not going to be the one who goes to the wish chamber

[49:10] Yeah, none of it makes sense

[49:12] Uh out in the woods the star turns a stick into a magic wand for asha and yet again

[49:16] I'm, like, well, why can't you just solve everything you fucking useless wish star?

[49:22] You really are getting mad at this

[49:24] Earlier you love me. Yeah, it just makes like a little giggle and covers its mouth and you're like that's not an answer

[49:30] The star is cute. The star is cute. I mean she's like star

[49:34] Don't be inconspicuous as the star puts a big handlebar mustache on his face and kind of creeps around

[49:39] Uh the but it is true that like, uh, he's like, oh by the way, I can give you this magic wand

[49:43] Hey, it turned an apple enormous and then she's trying to use it and she can't figure out what to do with it

[49:47] And it's like star just do it for her. Like where are you going? Like I don't understand. Yeah, I

[49:52] I feel like this is just like something that would have been such an easy fix on the screenplay level just add

[49:58] some bullshit rule

[50:00] Like, some guardrails, something that restricts the star's seemingly unrestricted power to

[50:06] explain to us why, but none of that work is done, so I'm here yelling at a children's

[50:13] movie.

[50:14] Um, I wish I could watch it with you and see you yelling at the children's movie.

[50:18] Wish.

[50:19] Asha, Jessie, yeah, oh, that's my wish.

[50:20] It turns out that's what it was, that's what Magnifico took from me.

[50:22] It's just an image of Dan shaking his fist at a TV over and over again.

[50:28] I mean, the wishes are basically just gifts, right?

[50:30] They're basically just gifts inside of snow globes.

[50:32] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[50:35] Um, so she's doing this, Asha's friends are doing some unfunny shenanigans, trying to

[50:39] open the roof of the wish chamber to let those wishes free.

[50:43] They managed to do it, but surprise, oh, a reveal.

[50:46] It's not actually the king who has chased Asha, it's Simon in, you know, he's been cloaked

[50:52] in one of, in sorcery, blah, blah, blah, yeah.

[50:57] But this threat on her is resolved almost immediately when a talking bear leaps on him,

[51:05] one of her woodland friends, and, uh, he's left to presumably be beaten up by a bunch

[51:10] of bunnies who show up looking angry, uh, back at the castle.

[51:14] And the bear has the hilarious cartoon name of John.

[51:18] Well, that again is a reference, I guess, to Little John from Robin Hood, because he's

[51:25] a bear in the Disney.

[51:26] And I know he mentions, he calls Bambi, a dear Bambi, but it's like at that point, like,

[51:31] stripped of its context, it means nothing.

[51:33] It's just, it's just nothing.

[51:34] It's nonsense.

[51:35] No, I agree.

[51:36] It's not a reference.

[51:37] I mean, like at least, you know, I don't know, give him a little like Robin Hood style hat

[51:42] that he made out of a leaf or something, or something, you know, or I guess that's, that's,

[51:47] that's not Little John who has that.

[51:48] That's um, what's his face?

[51:49] Who's the monk?

[51:50] Friar Tuck?

[51:51] Yeah.

[51:53] He's like, uh, what's he like a mole, I think.

[51:56] Friar Tuck?

[51:57] Uh, what?

[51:58] A mole.

[51:59] Not like a mole for like the other side.

[52:01] Yeah.

[52:02] Yeah.

[52:03] I was gonna say.

[52:04] Like he's not working for the sheriff.

[52:05] I think Friar Tuck sold out Robin Hood.

[52:06] I think he's like, uh.

[52:07] He's like a mole, right?

[52:08] That's the animal he's supposed to be.

[52:09] Like a rich sauce with a lot of, a lot of ingredients.

[52:10] Mm-hmm.

[52:11] Okay.

[52:12] Can you name some of those ingredients?

[52:13] Uh, pepper.

[52:14] Okay.

[52:15] Uh, yeah.

[52:16] Famously, a dark chocolate sauce.

[52:17] Yeah.

[52:19] That's one of the components.

[52:22] Anyway, back at the castle.

[52:24] But it doesn't have real moles in it, right?

[52:27] No, no, no, not anymore.

[52:29] Uh, but sharks, sharks, what I'm suggesting is what if it does, it does, I'm asking for

[52:36] a 10% stake, $20 million.

[52:39] Calling it mole, mole.

[52:41] Um, so back at the castle, Magnifico recaptures all the wishes and the star and like a magic

[52:48] net.

[52:49] He's gone full evil.

[52:50] He zaps his wife.

[52:51] He's yelling things like the wishes aren't yours to free.

[52:53] Does he have his magical staff yet?

[52:56] I believe so.

[52:57] At this point.

[52:58] Yes, he has the staff.

[52:59] Uh, Asher arrives too late.

[53:01] He is full of forbidden magic.

[53:02] He has become suffused with forbidden magic.

[53:04] He's just an evil guy.

[53:05] Now.

[53:06] Yeah.

[53:07] Awesome.

[53:08] Magnifico sucks the wishes and the star into his staff, uh, and he proclaims there will

[53:11] be no more wishing on stars ever again and he clouds up the sky and he traps the citizens

[53:17] in these sort of like magic thorn tendrils and he zaps Asher around, Oh, things look

[53:22] bleak.

[53:23] There's no way they're coming back from this.

[53:26] Uh, but suddenly I was like, I was like a bold decision for a Disney movie to just have

[53:31] the villain win.

[53:32] Cause there's no way the heroes can get out of this.

[53:35] Impossible.

[53:36] Yeah.

[53:37] You think this is it for Asher, but there's a whole brimful of Asher left.

[53:40] She remembers that all people are stars from that not before.

[53:46] And so he starts singing even though, uh, he's trying to crush her with his magic and

[53:50] stuff and the citizens join in and that weakens him enough to free the star.

[53:55] And the cane, the cane, the staff sucks him in.

[53:58] Does she like whip out some shurikens?

[54:00] Cause those are stars.

[54:01] Those are stars.

[54:03] Good point.

[54:04] Uh, stars you can throw Simon.

[54:07] So he's defeated.

[54:08] He's in the cane.

[54:09] Simon apologizes.

[54:10] He's he's in like a little, he's in kind of like a little mirror lens.

[54:16] And there's part of me that was like, are they implying that he's going to become like

[54:19] the mirror in snow white that talks to the, you know, that could be what they're trying

[54:24] to evoke when he's in the mirror for so long, he loses any aspect of his personality and

[54:28] he's just that face.

[54:29] It'd be, uh, Simon apologizes for betraying Asher in favor of his wish.

[54:34] And they all, yeah.

[54:36] And they all forgive him, uh, uh, way too easily for my liking, especially considering

[54:41] that the queen is like immediately like see, uh, to her husband who arguably like a lot

[54:48] of his actions were influenced by bad magic.

[54:51] It was not necessarily, you know, the neighboring countries are like, there's no sorcerer there

[54:56] anymore.

[54:57] Time to invade.

[54:58] Time to invade Rosas.

[55:00] Yeah.

[55:01] Uh, but anyway, the star leaves Asher with a magic wand.

[55:04] So she can be the town's fairy godmother, uh, where she'll presumably just grant wishes.

[55:10] Nearly, nearly devaluing any sort of human efforts.

[55:13] It's like, yeah, that's a better system to just have a teenager with the ability to grant

[55:16] whatever wish she feels like at the moment.

[55:18] Teenagers are just like sociopaths though, right?

[55:21] So yeah, it's fine.

[55:23] Yeah.

[55:24] And, uh, the star has to return to the sky, uh, in time for Jepeta to wish on it, presumably.

[55:29] Um, I mean, which I have to assume is hundreds of years later, if not longer, like, but maybe

[55:35] it's the same.

[55:36] All the creatures we have seen up to this point are naught but dust on the ground, except

[55:41] for Magnifico, who resides for eternity, uh, trapped inside of a mirror.

[55:46] Yeah.

[55:47] In some ways he has the last laugh.

[55:48] He will continue to exist when everyone else goes back to being just star stuff.

[55:51] I feel like there's a certain amount of madness that comes along with being trapped inside

[55:55] a mirror forever.

[55:56] One of the great British scavans, that's okay.

[56:00] Uh, and, uh, to finish off the movie, Asher tells the town people and the audience to

[56:06] just keep wishing and sends them out into the lobby to buy Disney merchandise.

[56:10] Uh, but, but that's a good, that's a good point because when I pulled this up, I watched

[56:15] it at home.

[56:16] I didn't see it in the movie theater.

[56:17] Uh, but when you pull up the like screen for the movie in between the like name of the

[56:24] movie and the play button, there's a big thing that's like by merch, like I took a, I took

[56:30] a screenshot, but it like literally says like, uh, wait, let me pull it up.

[56:34] And during the credits, I enjoy access to merchandise, visit the shop tab to learn more.

[56:40] I'm like, I love access to merchandise.

[56:43] For too long has my access to merchandise been barred by forces beyond my control.

[56:48] The, uh, I don't, I assume you guys didn't watch the credits, but during the credits

[56:52] images of images of past Disney characters show up in the stars.

[56:56] And then at the end we see Saba playing when you wish upon a star and his mandolin.

[57:01] He got his wish to inspire future generations and also to spit on the graves of Lee Harty

[57:06] Hartling and Ned Washington, the actual composers of that song.

[57:10] I'm sure I said it wrong, but at least I'm saying their names rather than, no, no, that's

[57:14] true.

[57:15] If you buy the sheet music from that song now, it says composed by Sabino.

[57:18] Yeah.

[57:19] Yeah.

[57:20] Uh, and then it says under that it says, you remember the guy from wish.

[57:25] And then under that it says, you know, the movie wish, yeah, I didn't, you know, I didn't

[57:28] realize what this, I didn't realize the whole a hundred years of Disney connection here.

[57:33] So the, uh, at first I'm just like, why are they just showing me old Disney shit in the

[57:37] credits?

[57:38] But that makes sense now.

[57:39] Even knowing that it's kind of a weird thing to do because it's not, I, you know, they,

[57:44] Disney has done a lot, a lot more meta stuff recently than it used to, but it feels like

[57:48] if any time you were going to do a meta thing about the characters from Disney movies coming

[57:52] together or something or why they exist, it feels like this is the movie to do it.

[57:55] And they don't go very far with that.

[57:57] You know?

[57:58] Although if they had, I'm sure we would do in the podcast and I'd be like, yeah, yeah,

[58:01] yeah.

[58:02] We'd be like, why are we watching kingdom hearts?

[58:03] The movie?

[58:04] I do think this is arguably, as you say, a Pinocchio prequel, just like focusing on like,

[58:10] what's the origin story of that star?

[58:11] I gotta know.

[58:12] But, uh, anyway, let's, uh, do final judgments where there's a good, bad movie, a bad, bad

[58:17] movie or a movie.

[58:19] We kind of like, I want to say off the top, I went to like, uh, the very negative, uh,

[58:27] New York magazine review and I was looking, I, I disregarded the great advice to never

[58:33] read the comments.

[58:34] I was reading the comments.

[58:35] There were a lot of people who are like, like, why are you hard on this?

[58:38] It's a movie for kids.

[58:40] And I get it on the one hand.

[58:42] And we've been very hard on a movie for kids.

[58:45] Like if kids enjoy it, that's great.

[58:48] I'm, I'm happy that they're having a good time.

[58:50] If like adults enjoy it, it was great.

[58:52] I'm happy they're having a good time for me.

[58:55] You know, this is, this podcast is nothing, if not highly personal, uh, opinions on things.

[59:02] Uh, I am someone who like really like likes a lot of Disney stuff.

[59:08] I know that the company has its negative sides too, but it has a history of some beautiful

[59:14] artistry.

[59:15] Uh, and I love a lot of Disney movies.

[59:18] I love a lot of Disney animated movies specifically like this movie was just so damn bland and

[59:25] I'm just, I, I just want it to be held to a higher standard.

[59:28] That's all.

[59:29] Yeah.

[59:30] You were talking about how much you love that one song from Peter Pan, that one song from

[59:33] Dumbo.

[59:34] Nope.

[59:35] Uh, yeah.

[59:36] So I, you know, like, I like a lot of Disney stuff.

[59:38] You're a big fan of that one centaur in Fantasia.

[59:40] You're like, why'd they cut out that centaur?

[59:43] We don't.

[59:44] I don't even know what you're talking about.

[59:45] There's some servant centaurs.

[59:46] There's a servant centaur in Fantasia who is very much a kind of like black slave girl

[59:53] caricature and she has been very rightfully snipped out of the, the source, the, uh,

[1:00:00] Prince of that what about the what about the priest and a little mermaid that gets a boner is that so I think that's

[1:00:06] I don't think that I mean you would do right. Have you seen Ariel?

[1:00:12] Seen Ursula

[1:00:15] Zofteak come on tentacles. Yes, please. I think Ursula's coded not to be interested in use Stuart. That's

[1:00:25] Anyway

[1:00:26] Yeah, I like I'm just saying we don't cover a lot of Disney stuff because honestly it usually has a base level of

[1:00:34] Competence, but this one was not very good in my opinion. I say bad bad

[1:00:39] Stuart

[1:00:41] Yeah, you know every once in a while a movie comes along that really shakes the preconceived

[1:00:47] Expectations that I might have going in, you know

[1:00:50] We watch this movie and we call that we watch the movies for this show and we call our show the flop house

[1:00:55] So we already go in thinking that we're gonna be watching potentially a bad movie and you know what? This was a bad movie

[1:01:01] I didn't enjoy it very much

[1:01:03] It didn't look particularly good. I felt everything looked really flat and moved kind of slow

[1:01:08] And it was kind of like a pale imitation of the things that came before it. The music was not particularly great

[1:01:14] Alan even the vocal stylings of

[1:01:17] The various talented cast members did not shake me out of my disappointment. I was not a fan

[1:01:24] Bad that I I'm also gonna say it's bad bad. I will say when I saw it in the theaters

[1:01:28] I was much more forgiving of it. Maybe it cast a little bit more of a spell on me

[1:01:32] But watching it this time I was like this doesn't really work for a lot of different reasons and it's too bad

[1:01:38] Like you're like you guys are saying like Disney as a corporation is one thing. I'm not a big fan of them

[1:01:42] They're corporate behavior

[1:01:44] but there's a lot of Disney movies that mean a lot to me and I would want the

[1:01:48] Celebration of the centenary of that studio to be something really special and that's hard to do and they for whatever reason

[1:01:55] They lack in this the special

[1:01:58] Elements that make those movies so memorable and so magical for like a word

[1:02:02] And I'm sure like all the people involved in this movie have made better movies in the past and will make better movies

[1:02:08] You know like like very talented artists all of them

[1:02:11] I just you know, not not for me and I would say the idea like why should you criticize this?

[1:02:16] It's for kids. I kind of understand that because as a parent

[1:02:18] I'm always looking for junk my kids can watch while I'm trying to get something done at the same time

[1:02:23] Like a bunch of dogs dressed up as civil servants or whatever. Yeah. Okay. Sure

[1:02:36] But I will say I was like bluey does he work as a mailman like what but uh, is he in the is he like

[1:02:41] What is what is bluey? What's blue?

[1:02:44] With a family poker

[1:02:46] But I was gonna say that in some ways

[1:02:49] we should expect more especially out of entertainment for children because even though their standards are lower the need for them to

[1:02:55] see and experience things of quality and to establish an

[1:02:59] Understanding of kind of like what is possible when you connect with great art is even bigger

[1:03:04] You know

[1:03:05] If you raise a kid on crap

[1:03:06] Then they're not gonna have a hunger when they're an adult for better things and I say better things and knowing it sounds snobby

[1:03:11] But like a hunger for things you're talking about the Pamela

[1:03:14] Yeah, exactly. They're not gonna want to watch if FX is

[1:03:19] But uh the you want a kid to have the experience of seeing something where they're like really touched by it

[1:03:25] and I've seen my kids experience that watching movies and

[1:03:28] it's so it's it's always a little disappointing when they watch something and they're like

[1:03:32] That was okay, you know even I mean when I took my kids really want to see this movie and after they saw it

[1:03:36] I don't think I don't think they ever talked about it again, which means it didn't make much of an impression

[1:03:40] Yeah, it's like the first time Dan saw Porky's, right?

[1:03:45] I don't want it. I don't want you to say go to go on but I I'm curious with you

[1:03:50] You know just like this see the light in his eyes and is the excitement the quickening of his footsteps when he's realizing what's possible

[1:03:57] We can have a symbols. I

[1:04:00] Want kids to go to the movies or watch movies with the feeling this is gonna be really fun

[1:04:04] It's gonna be great rather than okay. I'm just watching something, you know, yeah

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[1:09:27] I'm doing if you like podcasts

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[1:09:41] We're gonna go through the entire book 100 pages at a time and in October on October 7th

[1:09:45] He and I are going to interview Robert Caro live on stage at the New York Historical Society. I'm super excited about it

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[1:10:24] I was enjoying it.

[1:10:25] I was enjoying writing it.

[1:10:25] I hope you enjoy reading it.

[1:10:28] And I like to do a little plug

[1:10:29] for some friends of the podcast.

[1:10:31] And the plug, it goes like this.

[1:10:36] From the origins of chess

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[1:10:57] Game Masters,

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[1:11:15] This is a Kickstarter campaign

[1:11:17] for a comic book by a friend of the podcast,

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[1:11:25] It's great stuff.

[1:11:27] And you should check it out.

[1:11:28] Just go over to Kickstarter

[1:11:29] and look up Game Masters,

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[1:11:34] And I wanna remind people

[1:11:36] that if you're interested

[1:11:37] in keeping on top of all things Flophouse,

[1:11:41] we have a newsletter called Flop Secrets.

[1:11:43] If you go to flophousepodcast.com,

[1:11:48] there's a little field on the front page

[1:11:51] where you can put your email in

[1:11:53] to subscribe to hear all our news,

[1:11:57] what's going on with us.

[1:11:59] I include fun things that make it fun to read as well.

[1:12:03] This last one that went out,

[1:12:03] I did a last chance mailbag

[1:12:05] where I answered a mailbag question

[1:12:07] that otherwise might have never been gotten to.

[1:12:10] So if that's something that you're interested in,

[1:12:13] that's the kind of thing that's also in there.

[1:12:15] Also, I used this last newsletter

[1:12:17] to announce another newsletter,

[1:12:18] my personal newsletter,

[1:12:21] which I just am about to start.

[1:12:24] I've gone out at least one

[1:12:25] by the time that this is published.

[1:12:29] If you go to danmccoyinterests.com,

[1:12:37] you can sign up for that.

[1:12:39] It's called that-

[1:12:39] And it's safe for work, right?

[1:12:40] Yeah, so the reason it's that URL

[1:12:44] is I called my thing Dan McCoy Special Interests

[1:12:47] because it's kind of playing off the idea.

[1:12:50] I got this late in life neurodivergent ADHD diagnosis

[1:12:56] and a lot of people with divergences

[1:12:59] like have these special interests

[1:13:01] that they're more obsessed with, more fixated on.

[1:13:04] And I thought that was a kind of a lens

[1:13:06] to like look through some pop culture stuff.

[1:13:09] It's not like heavily about that.

[1:13:13] It's more like more funny pop culture stuff.

[1:13:16] Also some personal essays.

[1:13:19] So check it out.

[1:13:20] I'm looking forward to it,

[1:13:21] to get a little glimpse every, what,

[1:13:23] every three days into the mind of Dan McCoy?

[1:13:25] No, I think I'm gonna do it in every other week

[1:13:28] when I'm not doing the Flop Secrets newsletter.

[1:13:31] Yeah, that's if we just let people

[1:13:33] into the Flop House group chat

[1:13:36] to get just occasional drawings, screenshots of things,

[1:13:40] general things that I am very happy to have access to.

[1:13:43] That's Dan McCoy Special Interests.

[1:13:45] I'm sorry that sometimes my method of reaching out

[1:13:48] is to send a random image of some sort.

[1:13:51] I appreciate that you guys-

[1:13:54] I love it.

[1:13:56] Endure and mostly enjoy.

[1:13:58] Yeah, I'm just glad it's no longer just the image

[1:14:00] that you made of yourself where the eyes and the mouth

[1:14:03] were kind of like ripped out

[1:14:04] and replaced with some other image.

[1:14:05] I forgot what it was.

[1:14:06] It was very disturbing to me.

[1:14:08] Oh, I don't remember that,

[1:14:09] but it sounds like something I-

[1:14:10] It was like a mishmash of a picture of you.

[1:14:12] And I think that picture of the woman

[1:14:14] who painted the bottom of her boobs

[1:14:16] to look like Garfield's eyes.

[1:14:17] Oh, right, right, yeah.

[1:14:20] Mishmash, I think, is the technical term

[1:14:23] of that work of art.

[1:14:24] Yeah.

[1:14:26] And there should be, unless I fell down on the job,

[1:14:29] there should be mentioned at the top of this episode

[1:14:32] of Flop TV, our upcoming returning season

[1:14:35] of our monthly online live show that we do

[1:14:38] where it's like a one-hour version of the podcast,

[1:14:40] but in your face in front of you.

[1:14:42] And we shoot some videos for it

[1:14:44] and we do lots of fun stuff.

[1:14:45] Anyway, we're gonna be starting

[1:14:48] the first Saturday of each month starting in September.

[1:14:50] It's all sequel movies,

[1:14:52] RoboCop 2, Breakin' 2, Ski School 2,

[1:14:55] Caddyshack 2, all sequels.

[1:14:57] It's gonna be super fun.

[1:14:58] Go to flophousepodcast.com slash events

[1:15:01] for more information and a link to the ticket page.

[1:15:04] And you probably heard all this information

[1:15:06] at the top of the show,

[1:15:06] but I'm gonna say it again.

[1:15:07] So it starts the first Saturday in September

[1:15:10] and it's the first Saturday in each month,

[1:15:12] going forward for six months.

[1:15:13] Now these episodes, I should mention,

[1:15:16] you can get individual ticket passes or a season pass.

[1:15:19] The episodes will be available to watch

[1:15:21] throughout the entire run.

[1:15:23] We're gonna leave them up online.

[1:15:24] So if you don't buy until episode three is up

[1:15:27] and you get a season pass,

[1:15:28] you can still watch episode one and two in that pass.

[1:15:31] You know, you're not gonna be missing anything,

[1:15:33] but you should probably buy your tickets early anyway.

[1:15:36] Don't forget.

[1:15:36] Come on.

[1:15:37] Flexible.

[1:15:38] But it can fit your schedule.

[1:15:39] You can watch it whenevs.

[1:15:40] After we do it live,

[1:15:42] the video will be up online for you to watch

[1:15:44] at your leisure.

[1:15:45] You can watch it whenever.

[1:15:46] You know, when you're at work, when you're driving,

[1:15:48] when you're on the toilet.

[1:15:49] In the bath.

[1:15:50] At church, when you're with your parents.

[1:15:52] When you're taking a bath with your parents at church.

[1:15:54] Yeah.

[1:15:55] And using the toilet.

[1:15:55] That's called baptism.

[1:15:57] Yeah, but you're not using the bathroom in it, right?

[1:16:00] Yeah.

[1:16:02] I mean, if you're a little baby, maybe.

[1:16:04] Yeah.

[1:16:05] Let's move on to letters from listeners.

[1:16:08] Flop TV season two,

[1:16:09] if you're a little baby,

[1:16:10] you might poop in the baptism bath.

[1:16:11] That's the slogan, right, Dan?

[1:16:12] Mm-hmm.

[1:16:13] Yeah.

[1:16:14] Yep.

[1:16:15] Thank you for ruining that easy ad break for Alex.

[1:16:18] Mm-hmm.

[1:16:20] Let's do letters from listeners now.

[1:16:22] This is from Derek, last name withheld.

[1:16:25] Mm-hmm.

[1:16:26] Who writes,

[1:16:27] Hey Peaches, my friend Kyle took his car

[1:16:29] to the mechanic the other day

[1:16:30] and sat in the waiting room while they worked on it.

[1:16:32] When it was done, he went to pay.

[1:16:34] The guy gave him-

[1:16:35] All checks out.

[1:16:36] The guy gave him a-

[1:16:37] Yeah, no lies so far.

[1:16:40] The guy gave him a really odd look.

[1:16:42] Confused, he got into the car, started it,

[1:16:45] and shortly after, the Flophouse podcast started playing.

[1:16:48] Elliot was ranking and arguing

[1:16:50] over which gremlins were sexiest.

[1:16:52] He is not sure he can go back to that mechanic again.

[1:16:57] I stand by my rankings.

[1:16:59] If he thinks that way, I'm the one who said those things.

[1:17:02] Anyway, is there a more embarrassing Flophouse episode

[1:17:05] that could have been playing in the situation?

[1:17:07] I struggle to think of one.

[1:17:09] Is there a podcast that you listen to

[1:17:12] that you would be absolutely mortified

[1:17:13] to have someone else hear a short out-of-context clip of?

[1:17:18] Keep on flopping in the free world,

[1:17:20] Derek, last name withheld.

[1:17:21] Honestly, I don't think there's anywhere

[1:17:22] I'd be more embarrassed than someone hearing a clip

[1:17:24] from this out-of-context, this series,

[1:17:27] but I think I was a, I still listen to it sometimes,

[1:17:30] old episodes, I was a big fan

[1:17:32] of the Gilbert Gottfried Amazing Colossal podcast,

[1:17:34] and there are certain things in that

[1:17:36] where I definitely don't want it to turn on my car

[1:17:38] and have that start playing

[1:17:39] in case there's someone else there,

[1:17:40] like, just stories he tells that are disgusting, so.

[1:17:44] I mean, I wouldn't want anyone to hear me listen

[1:17:46] to the Joe Rogan experience, but you don't do that.

[1:17:50] I don't do that, yeah, let's clarify.

[1:17:52] Actually, that's a good question.

[1:17:53] He didn't specify a podcast you actually listen to.

[1:17:56] In that case, there are a lot of podcasts

[1:17:58] I would be mortified to have someone

[1:17:59] walking in and hear a short out-of-context clip, yeah.

[1:18:02] I would say, I mean, an easy one is,

[1:18:05] my dad wrote a porno, just because,

[1:18:08] you know, the nature of the material.

[1:18:11] I'm looking through my thing, like,

[1:18:13] I guess Savage Lovecast gets kind of explicit at times,

[1:18:15] but I don't care about that.

[1:18:17] I'd be more embarrassed by, like,

[1:18:19] you know, and love to the people behind these podcasts.

[1:18:23] They're on my list, I listen to them.

[1:18:25] I'm not saying anything other than, like,

[1:18:27] my own sense of vanity, but, like,

[1:18:30] I don't know, if something really, like,

[1:18:31] fucking nerdy thing came up from the Comics Canon

[1:18:34] or something, or, like, something that just, like,

[1:18:37] revealed, like, the depths of, like,

[1:18:39] my esoterica on my podcast, like,

[1:18:42] then I would feel exposed.

[1:18:44] Uh-huh, yeah, I can see that.

[1:18:46] Yeah. Yeah.

[1:18:47] Although, I think, I mean, deep down,

[1:18:50] everybody just really wants to be seen

[1:18:52] for who they are, Dan, so maybe deep down,

[1:18:55] although it's a little scary, you just want people

[1:18:57] to hear all your nerdy podcast obsessions.

[1:19:00] I said earlier, everybody wants to be a cat.

[1:19:02] Oh, yeah, I know, so when you said everybody wants some,

[1:19:06] you meant everybody wants some being a cat time?

[1:19:09] Uh-huh. Yeah.

[1:19:11] Did we all answer that question?

[1:19:13] I had lost track of, okay. Yeah, we did, just move on, Dan.

[1:19:15] Even if we didn't, who gives a, who cares?

[1:19:17] Come on. Who gives a rip, you know?

[1:19:19] We give these people nothing.

[1:19:20] Good point, well, we kind of, okay.

[1:19:22] Pete, last name withheld, writes,

[1:19:24] the retailer from Star Wars Minute?

[1:19:27] Good guy. We don't know.

[1:19:28] Could be.

[1:19:29] Dear Peaches. Or Pete Pan.

[1:19:32] Some people call him Peter Pan.

[1:19:34] I would like to keep this simple.

[1:19:36] Oh.

[1:19:37] If you could be a, and he will,

[1:19:40] if you could be a quaddo on anyone living or dead.

[1:19:43] Normal, normal question.

[1:19:44] While they were alive, who would you attach yourself to?

[1:19:48] Please keep on flopping through the hard times.

[1:19:50] Pete, last name withheld.

[1:19:53] Okay, I mean, mine's pretty easy.

[1:19:56] Anthony Bourdain, I just want to travel the world.

[1:20:00] Oh, Tony B, I've got some bad news for you.

[1:20:03] I mean, when he was alive, he was alive.

[1:20:05] Yeah, yeah.

[1:20:06] No, I just he was he seemed like he was he was not enjoying traveling the world.

[1:20:09] Maybe you cheer him up.

[1:20:10] You could.

[1:20:11] Yeah, I feel like I would have turned everything around.

[1:20:14] That's true.

[1:20:15] Yeah, that's what he needed.

[1:20:16] It was a growth, a man growing from his body.

[1:20:21] Similarly, I do a real one right there.

[1:20:23] Yeah, I think similarly, I think maybe like Orson Welles

[1:20:26] be fun to be attached to for much of his life, you know, have an event.

[1:20:29] Yeah. Another guy who has was totally normal and had no problems.

[1:20:35] Yeah, I mean, nobody has no problem.

[1:20:38] I know. I was thinking about this.

[1:20:39] I was like, I don't I don't know that I want to be attached to anyone.

[1:20:43] No, of course not.

[1:20:44] I mean, we have to buy into the premise that we want to be attached

[1:20:46] to someone's belly, which we don't.

[1:20:47] I don't want to be attached to anyone that I like too much,

[1:20:50] because like then I'm worried about the burden

[1:20:53] that having a little version of me attached.

[1:20:56] Dan, you're not a bird.

[1:20:58] And well, I mean, if I'm attached to you as a like a.

[1:21:01] No, that's a that's a man's emotions all the time.

[1:21:04] Well, he's attached to your stomach could be a bit much sometimes.

[1:21:08] But also, like, I'm going to learn something about them

[1:21:10] that I don't want to know.

[1:21:11] Like, that's part of the problem.

[1:21:12] Smells like when they use the bathroom, that's for sure.

[1:21:15] Yeah. So maybe maybe it smells like cookies or something.

[1:21:21] I don't know.

[1:21:21] I don't know. Maybe.

[1:21:22] Maybe. So Dan, what if I was attached to it like a dog

[1:21:26] experience?

[1:21:27] You're being scraped along the ground all the time.

[1:21:29] Sure. Yeah.

[1:21:30] I mean, it'd probably be on the back of a tall dog.

[1:21:33] Yeah, it's just super.

[1:21:34] Yeah, it's all about two legs a lot of the time.

[1:21:36] Yeah. I love the dance.

[1:21:37] Like, yeah, I don't know.

[1:21:39] It'd be unpleasant to learn unpleasant things about someone.

[1:21:41] So I guess I'll just be a human body sticking out of an animal.

[1:21:46] I mean, actually, like dogs or dogs are pretty generally in good spirit.

[1:21:52] Yeah, I think that I think it's the chill quality of the lifestyle

[1:21:55] that appeals to me.

[1:21:56] Yeah. Chill quality of the lifestyle.

[1:21:57] I don't have to like get mad at the funny chill dogs.

[1:22:03] Plenty of them. I'm I'm I'm I'm on board.

[1:22:05] I mean, I've heard of snow dogs, but I've never heard of chill dogs.

[1:22:09] Let's recommend movies for fun.

[1:22:11] So Snow Dogs is a movie about.

[1:22:14] Um, let's recommend movies that we saw that,

[1:22:18] you know, might be a better use of your time than say Wish.

[1:22:22] Stuart, I want you to go first.

[1:22:24] Yeah, I'm going to recommend a movie now.

[1:22:26] This is one of my classic Stuart Wellington.

[1:22:28] Totally not biased reviews.

[1:22:30] I am recommending a movie that I saw at Fantasia Fest last week

[1:22:35] in Montreal, Sacrebleu, Zutalore.

[1:22:40] That's because they speak French there.

[1:22:42] I am going to recommend the latest movie from friend of the podcast director

[1:22:46] Steve Kostansky.

[1:22:48] You might know him as the director of P.G.

[1:22:50] Psycho Gorman, which features the voice talents of one Stuart Wellington.

[1:22:55] Well, oh, if you like that, buckle your freak belt because

[1:23:01] his new movie, Frankie Frico,

[1:23:04] just had its world premiere at Fantasia Fest, and it is great.

[1:23:08] It is a hyper focused, weird joke of a movie

[1:23:12] that is basically like if Goonies Goes to College was mixed with like gremlins.

[1:23:17] Go to school, goonies or do the goonies go to college?

[1:23:21] I mean, I assume that they do.

[1:23:22] They have a lot of money for toilets.

[1:23:24] Those gyms that they found and whatnot.

[1:23:27] I can't be the only person to confuse goonies and goonies, right?

[1:23:31] You cannot. I'm sure someone's grandma did.

[1:23:34] Yeah, they're like, Mom, can I get grandma?

[1:23:36] Can I get a DVD of goonies?

[1:23:40] And she gets them goonies.

[1:23:41] And they're like, what is this fucking more likely?

[1:23:44] The opposite is my guess.

[1:23:47] Anyway, it is Frankie Frico is a celebration

[1:23:50] of a very specific era of full moon video.

[1:23:54] If you ever had the experience of like

[1:23:57] renting a weird movie on VHS from your local video store

[1:24:02] and on that VHS, there was an even weirder trailer before it.

[1:24:06] And you're like, what the fuck is this movie?

[1:24:08] I've never heard of this.

[1:24:09] That's what kind of Frankie Frico feels like.

[1:24:11] It's very silly.

[1:24:12] It is about a nerdy guy who is obsessed with being less of a nerd.

[1:24:17] So he calls a party line with a little gremlin and then that gremlin

[1:24:20] brings his friends over to his house and trashes the place.

[1:24:23] And it causes him all kinds of problems.

[1:24:25] It's great.

[1:24:26] And you might recognize a couple of voices in that movie.

[1:24:28] Like me, like Dan, like Elliot and other people.

[1:24:32] It's great.

[1:24:33] Check it out.

[1:24:34] Frankie Frico rules again.

[1:24:35] Totally unbiased review.

[1:24:37] I don't know if I'm going to recognize other people.

[1:24:39] You might. I might.

[1:24:41] Well, thank you, Stuart.

[1:24:43] I think your parents did did voices for the movie, Dan.

[1:24:45] So you might recognize them.

[1:24:47] Yeah, that would be wild.

[1:24:52] I'm glad that Stuart got a chance to promote that movie.

[1:24:55] And I'm also glad that he did not recommend the movie I was going to recommend.

[1:24:59] Looks at notes. Frankie Frico.

[1:25:01] Turns out Dan wasn't listening.

[1:25:03] Is it Dildo Heaven?

[1:25:04] No, it's not Dildo Heaven.

[1:25:06] Dildo Heaven. Disappoint.

[1:25:07] It was fine.

[1:25:08] So what is that?

[1:25:08] All I know is Dan sent a text that says, I'm going to see this.

[1:25:11] And the title screen said Dildo Heaven.

[1:25:12] I said, I don't even want to look up what this is.

[1:25:14] Yeah, yeah. You're like, Sammy, don't look at my phone.

[1:25:17] It was a it was a weird Wednesday screening.

[1:25:19] This is Doris Wishman's last movie.

[1:25:22] Oh, OK. She actually appeared.

[1:25:24] You may have seen the clip of her on Conor O'Brien with Roger Ebert.

[1:25:27] She was there to promote Dildo Heaven at the time.

[1:25:30] I never I didn't see it.

[1:25:31] Not see the interview.

[1:25:32] And I'm going to look it up.

[1:25:33] Yeah, I should look it up.

[1:25:35] It's you know, I mean, if you're a fan of like truly bottom

[1:25:41] of the barrel filmmaking where like.

[1:25:44] George Wish Wishman was like a beloved figure in sexploitation

[1:25:48] and starting out in nudie cuties in the 60s, like it seems like she only forgot

[1:25:53] more about traditional film grammar as she went on, like this last movie of hers

[1:25:57] is is baffling in a delightful way.

[1:26:00] Like she was very elderly, too.

[1:26:02] By that time, I must admit.

[1:26:03] Well, yeah, but I mean, like that doesn't necessarily mean

[1:26:05] she has a diminished capacity.

[1:26:06] Like in this case, though, the film was like, OK, Biden, bizarre.

[1:26:11] It's OK.

[1:26:11] But just just to clarify, this is not this is not my recommendation,

[1:26:15] although it's not. So why are you talking about it?

[1:26:17] It's all Dildo.

[1:26:18] Well, I set it up.

[1:26:19] Stewart couldn't resist saying the words Dildo Heaven.

[1:26:23] I think that's the main thing. Yeah.

[1:26:25] I don't even think it seems redundant.

[1:26:26] Seems like a redundant phrase.

[1:26:27] Yeah, I can't blame me.

[1:26:29] I think.

[1:26:30] Yeah, I think I saw a screening

[1:26:32] and the rights are not out there for people to see it otherwise.

[1:26:34] So don't even try and watch Dildo Heaven.

[1:26:36] Watch said from 1978, my birth year, the Manitou.

[1:26:40] Stewart and I went out and saw the Manitou.

[1:26:42] Really? OK, what a movie.

[1:26:46] It's got that movie gets wild.

[1:26:48] Yeah. Oh, you think so?

[1:26:50] I thought it was pretty normal.

[1:26:51] So let me give so people understand what we're talking about.

[1:26:55] Let me give a very short

[1:26:59] premise. Give us your Manitou sense about this one.

[1:27:03] I was like this close to doing that for the many weeks.

[1:27:06] The the movie is about a woman who has what seems to be a tumor on her neck,

[1:27:12] but it turns out is the fetus of a reincarnated

[1:27:18] Native American medicine man,

[1:27:20] like an evil, megalomaniacal medicine man from the past.

[1:27:25] She's like 500 years old at this point.

[1:27:28] And despite some valiant efforts at a certain amount of 1970s

[1:27:36] progressivism, the movie cannot overcome an inherent

[1:27:40] racism in the premise of this.

[1:27:43] In addition to I will warn people if they're sensitive to such things.

[1:27:48] The man playing the good medicine man that we learn that we meet later on

[1:27:51] is a Syrian actor, I found out later on.

[1:27:55] But anyway, and Tony Curtis movie, too, is and wild.

[1:28:01] Yeah. And Burgess Meredith.

[1:28:03] Burgess Meredith gives a one scene performance that is amazing.

[1:28:07] It is genuinely one of the best comic performances I've ever seen.

[1:28:11] He just comes in, does this one scene, feels like he's in a totally different

[1:28:15] movie because he's so real at the same time as being funny.

[1:28:17] He's finding all these jokes and just like the way he reacts to things.

[1:28:20] I love the moment.

[1:28:21] Like the people all just sit down.

[1:28:23] He's like, oh, I guess sit down if you want.

[1:28:26] So Tony Curtis also like is giving a very committed, silly performance

[1:28:34] that's very enjoyable and all the while wearing bell bottoms and like a leather jacket.

[1:28:39] Yeah. Yeah.

[1:28:40] And as Elliot alluded to, the ending of the movie is just mad.

[1:28:46] Like, I don't want to spoil any of it for anyone.

[1:28:48] Yeah, you want it.

[1:28:48] You don't want it other than to say it's not necessarily going exactly where you

[1:28:52] think it's going to go in terms of what you're going to see on screen.

[1:28:55] You know, yeah, they're going to deal with this problem.

[1:28:57] But yeah, so be aware that it has some problems that may, you know,

[1:29:04] strike on some modern sensibilities.

[1:29:07] But it's also such a singular movie.

[1:29:10] I don't know.

[1:29:11] It's a lot of fun to watch.

[1:29:13] I'm going to recommend a movie that's also a lot of fun to watch,

[1:29:15] but in a different way and a very it's a very different kind of movie.

[1:29:18] But it also starts with the mood in its title.

[1:29:21] And that is the more the merrier.

[1:29:24] This is a comedy from 1943 starring Gene Arthur and Joel McRae and Charles Coburn.

[1:29:29] And he won Academy Award for his performance in this.

[1:29:31] And it's about the ideas.

[1:29:33] It's Washington, D.C. during World War Two.

[1:29:35] The city is full.

[1:29:36] There is not enough housing for people.

[1:29:38] And so Gene Arthur has to rent out half of her apartment to Charles Coburn.

[1:29:43] He in turn rents out half of the half that he rented from her to Joel McRae.

[1:29:47] And there's a lot of kind of screwball people running into each other and

[1:29:51] getting confused, but also a romance that comes up between our younger leads.

[1:29:56] And it's actually a very sweet romance.

[1:29:58] And the movie is very funny.

[1:30:00] George Stevens directed it.

[1:30:01] He's a director who I always think of

[1:30:03] because he directed like Shane and stuff like that.

[1:30:05] I always think of him as being like a stodgy director,

[1:30:08] but I forget that he made a lot of different kinds

[1:30:09] of movies and this movie moves real fast.

[1:30:12] It's really fun.

[1:30:13] The jokes are really funny.

[1:30:14] And so I really enjoyed it from beginning to end.

[1:30:17] And that's the more the merrier.

[1:30:19] If you want to watch an old comedy,

[1:30:21] this is a really good one.

[1:30:24] Well, I think that is gonna be it for this episode.

[1:30:29] Before we go, thank you, of course, to Maximum Fun.

[1:30:33] Go to maximumfun.org to check out other podcasts

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[1:30:45] Thank you to Alex Smith, our producer.

[1:30:48] He goes by the name HowlDotty all over the internet.

[1:30:53] Just all over it.

[1:30:54] Yeah, just all over it.

[1:30:55] He just provided the use of one of his songs

[1:30:58] for a trailer I cut for Flop TV season two.

[1:31:00] It works really well.

[1:31:01] It's great stuff.

[1:31:03] You know, if you want to check us out around the web,

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[1:31:14] But that's it.

[1:31:15] For The Flop House, I've been Dan McCoy.

[1:31:17] I'm Stuart Wellington.

[1:31:18] And I'm Elliot Kalin.

[1:31:21] Bye, sucka.

[1:31:23] I don't know.

[1:31:35] On this episode, we discuss Wish.

[1:31:38] What?

[1:31:42] You're right, Stu.

[1:31:43] That was a banger.

[1:31:44] Yeah.

[1:31:47] Seemed a little muddled.

[1:31:48] Let's try one more.

[1:31:49] Do it again, yeah, yeah.

[1:31:50] On this episode, we discuss Wish.

[1:31:54] What?

[1:31:58] I think the second time was way better.

[1:32:00] No, it wasn't better.

[1:32:01] It was better, yeah.

[1:32:02] I guess that's what we're doing.

[1:32:03] Do you want me to record an alternate just in case?

[1:32:04] Yeah, you should do it.

[1:32:06] I don't know.

[1:32:07] I mean, I kind of knew I was doing it wrong.

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