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FH Mini 117 – The Definitive Action Hero Ranking Pt. 2
Transcript
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Hi, floppers, before we start this episode,
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I just wanted to remind you,
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we are in the middle of Flop TV season two.
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That's right, the one hour internet televised
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the first Saturday of every month through February.
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Just go to theflophouse.simpletics.com
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and get your tickets or season pass
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for this all new Flophouse TV stuff.
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We're covering movies we've never covered before.
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We've got video segments, it's amazing.
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Just go to theflophouse.simpletics.com
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for Flop TV season two.
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This time, it's personal.
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Hey, hey, it's me, Stuart Wellington
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of the Flophouse podcast
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and we're here for another Flophouse mini.
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That's right, normally we make episodes of a podcast
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where we watch a bad movie and talk about it.
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But on the minis, we do whatever we want.
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We normally goof around and do silly bone stuff,
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but this time we're doing serious bone stuff.
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We are doing a no nonsense breakdown
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of the best action heroes in cinema history
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as voted by the Flophouse.
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We are voting them and rating them
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on three different categories.
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That's right, radness, badness and lucky dip.
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We have already got 10 out of the way.
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If you are like, I'm lost,
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go back to the episode two weeks ago,
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listen to that shit and get caught up.
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We don't have time for that
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because we got 10 more action heroes to talk about.
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So Dan, I think it's time.
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I haven't even introduced my co-host.
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I know.
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That is, who's sitting to my left?
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That could be a mystery, Dan.
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That could be, I don't know.
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That could be Dan Stevens, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Oh my God.
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Oh man, it could be Dan Stevens, if only.
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To be sitting next to Dan Stevens.
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No, I'm Dan McCoy and with us as always is.
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Elliot Kalin, that's right.
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And your main host tonight, Stuart Wellington.
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Let's grip it and rip it, Dan, roll with it.
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But okay, it's eight.
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Okay, we are, we're all the way,
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man, we've looped all the way around.
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We are back into the Johns, guys.
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John Towne, that's right.
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We are talking about the star of First Blood,
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First Blood Part Two, John Rambo.
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John Rambo, he's got the hair, he's got the muscles,
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he's got the bandana, he's killed a lot of people.
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He's a weapon, you know,
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he was trained to be a living weapon, yeah.
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So let's talk about it.
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Do you guys have opinions on Mr. John Rambo?
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Do you like those movies?
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I like the first one and I like, I don't know,
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the one that I saw with Elliot, I kinda liked too.
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What was that?
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Which one was that? The fourth one?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, the one where he goes, he's in,
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where is it, he's in Malaysia or is it Burma?
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No, he's in Burma, yeah.
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With all the, where it's like he's older.
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Yeah, I hated the most recent one.
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I don't think I've even seen two or three, I'll be honest.
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Oh, wow, I remember liking both of those,
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but I was a kid and dumb.
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Yes, those movies are dumb.
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The last one I did not like, but overall,
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those are my, the first one is a good movie,
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but overall, the other ones are like
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guilty pleasures of mine,
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because they're just, they're ridiculous, you know,
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but the last one I did not like.
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The way I live my life, none of my pleasures are guilty.
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Then you're not doing all right, Stu.
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Here's the thing though, I do enjoy some of the Rambo,
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but I would not call him, I don't know,
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there's not a lot of radness for me.
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For me, there's not a lot of radness.
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Like he's, like in the first one, he's a sad man.
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In all of them, he's a very, there's a lot of sadness
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in the Rambo movies.
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And yeah, a lot of PTSD.
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I don't know, he has a bandana or like a headband
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or whatever.
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What about that, your worst nightmare line?
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That was from a...
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He's got good lines.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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I'm gonna give him a three though.
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He's not, this is not a rad action hero
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so much as it is...
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When I think of Rambo, I sometimes mix him up
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with Charlie Sheen's character from Hot Shots Part Two.
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Yeah, very similar, same bow and arrow and headband.
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I'm gonna give him a five,
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because I agree he's not a cool character
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you would wanna be.
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He's very sad, he's haunted by the things that he's done
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and that have been done to him.
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But at the same time, to be that character
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and to get some good wisecracks out
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and kind of intimidate people,
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and also to know how to paint yourself up
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so you look like the trunk of a tree,
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just in case the guy you're fighting happens
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to walk by that one particular tree, that's pretty bad.
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So I'm gonna, it's pretty rad.
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So I'm gonna give him a five for radness, yeah.
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Dan, what was your score again?
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I think I gave him a three.
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Okay, let's go into badness.
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How bad is this?
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Now for badness, now, on the other hand,
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this is where he cleans up,
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because I haven't seen those middle movies,
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but it's my understanding that he single-handedly
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gets us a redo and wins the Vietnam War.
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He wins the Vietnam War,
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he pushes the Russians out of Afghanistan.
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He's a one-man Army Corps.
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Yeah, he's an OMAC.
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Yeah, he gets a 10 for badness for me.
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Yeah, 10 for sure.
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And he's been stabbed and shot so many times,
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and it just does not faze him, yeah.
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It was watching Rambo III that I learned
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that if, I think it was III,
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where if you get shot,
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you can just fill the hole with gunpowder
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and light it on fire to cauterize the wound.
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If you're Rambo, you can.
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As a kid, I assumed, when I would grow up,
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I would use that information all the time.
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Dan, give me a roll on lucky dip, baby.
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Yeah, you got a 14 there.
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A 14 for old John Rambo.
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Ooh, okay, this is interesting.
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John Rambo falls through a portal
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into mythological Greece.
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How likely, on a scale of one to 10,
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is he going to complete the 12 labors of Heracles?
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Oh, I mean, I feel like that's a 10.
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Come on.
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Yeah, I mean-
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He's gonna kill that Nemean lion.
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He's gonna kill the hydra.
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He's gonna steal that girdle.
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How's he gonna handle the stables?
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The stables is the hard one.
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That's the hardest one.
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He's gotta redirect that river.
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I bet he could figure out a way to do it,
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just with the weapons at hand, yeah.
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Yeah, I mean, to my knowledge-
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The geology of stables is the hard one, yeah.
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To my knowledge, John Rambo is not a half-god man,
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so he loses a point for me for that,
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but otherwise, I'm gonna give him a nine.
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He seems as close to a Greek hero as you can get.
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Yeah, for sure, that is a good category for him.
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Yeah, lucky for him.
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Okay, okay, Dan, give me another, who's our next hero?
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I got a six here.
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Six here would be, okay.
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Wait, that's a nine, it doesn't matter.
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Okay, it doesn't matter.
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So we have the star of Kill Bill and Kill Bill 2,
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the hero of Kill Bill and Kill Bill 2,
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the Bride, aka Beatrix Kiddo, played by Uma Thurman.
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Yeah, I mean, she wears a yellow tracksuit around.
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Yeah, like a Bruce Lee tracksuit.
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So I think that that's gotta be like a 10 for Radness.
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It's gotta be a 10 for Radness, for sure.
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She looks super rad, yeah.
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Yeah, okay, what about Badness?
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I mean, almost as high.
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She like kills all of the, like the 99 whatevers
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or whatever, what are they called?
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The 99 whatevers, are they called the 99 whatevers?
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Now you have to face the 99 whatevers.
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What are they exactly?
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She punches her way out of a grave, like, I don't know.
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She teaches herself how to move her entire body
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when all she can move is her toe, you know?
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Yeah, I think just out of like a weird instinct
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to not clean up too hard, I'm gonna give her a nine,
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but maybe it should be a 10, I don't know, nine.
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I'm not threatened by powerful women the way Dan is,
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so I'm gonna give her a 10.
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Okay, okay, and let's give me a lucky dip.
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How does, how does the Bride perform?
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What if the category is digging yourself out of a grave?
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You have to give her a 10. Oh, she crushed it!
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15.
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Okay, so if the Bride was able to put all this revenge
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and whatnot behind her, how likely, on a scale of one to 10,
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would she be successful as a social media star?
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Oh, I think pretty high.
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I mean, she's like a beautiful white lady,
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and she's got a track suit.
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She's got a kid at the end, right?
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So like, that's, there's a lot of mommy influencers
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out there, yeah.
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Yeah, I think that, I think, yeah, she's doing pretty well.
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And an interest in Asian culture,
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which is also, which can also be big online, so yeah.
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Although she might get canceled for, again,
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being a white lady who's like appropriating that culture.
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Yeah, that's possible, that's possible, yeah.
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I'm gonna give her an eight for this.
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Yeah, I'm also gonna give her an eight, yeah.
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Not bad, though, these are good scores.
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These are high scores. She did really well.
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Actually, the thing that takes her down is,
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I worry that she would have trouble
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with the digital interface,
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because she's such an analog, hands-on person, you know?
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That's true.
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She can really admire and understand
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the Hattori Hanzo sword, but I don't know
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if she's gonna be able to figure out that app.
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Yeah, that's true.
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Okay, Dan, give me a roll.
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Who's our next hero?
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We got a 15 here.
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A 15 is, okay.
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We have the stars of the Bad Boys franchise.
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Detective Mike Lowry and Marcus Burnett,
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played by Will Smith and Martin Lawrence.
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These are huge movies, huge action movies.
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Elliot, have you seen any of them?
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I've seen the first two.
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I've not seen the new one.
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There's two newer ones, right?
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Two newer ones.
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Bad Boys Forever and Bad Boys Ride or Die.
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Wow, you nailed it.
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Yeah.
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You have been paying attention to the billboards in LA.
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Exactly, but I haven't seen either of those.
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They lost me.
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To be honest, they kind of lost me
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with those two rats having sex in the second one.
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What?
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Pause the fucking podcast, Dan.
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The moment where the person sitting next to me
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like couldn't contain themselves and started nudging me
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by how funny they thought it was.
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I've enjoyed the two most recent ones.
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The movies make a radical switch in tone
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from Michael Bay not caring about humanity
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to suddenly being like, hey, it's a love story
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between these two aging police officers.
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The trailers look much more serious
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than the previous movies, yeah.
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Yeah, you know, they're not great, but they're fun.
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How rad are these two dudes?
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Well, I mean, I don't know.
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They've got a lot of the signifiers of radness.
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I do not think it is quite so rad that there are two cops who go around just like wildly
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shooting things and like running cars into shantytowns.
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That's true.
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Which to be fair, Jackie Chan does in the first police story too pretty much.
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Yeah.
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Bad guys doing that.
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Yeah.
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They level for that a lot.
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This is a fantasy world so I'm not going to, you know, take them too much to task for that
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but I will give them just a five.
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Okay.
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I'm going to give them, I think I'm going to give them a six.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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I mean they're fun.
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Like part of the success of these movies is you like spending time with them.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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How bad are these bad bullies?
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They are.
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It's right in the title.
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It is right in the title, right?
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But I feel like they are not, I don't know, it's like they get the job done but I don't
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think of them as like Terminators, you know?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I feel like their strength is sort of like the power of friendship, honestly.
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That's true.
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Yeah.
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No.
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Thank you, Dan.
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Yeah.
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It's its own sort of badness.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So in badness, I'm going to give them a seven, I think.
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I'm going to give them, I'm going to go sixes across the board.
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Okay.
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Give me a roll on lucky dip.
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Lucky dip.
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This might be their category.
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13.
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Lucky number 13.
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Lucky number 13.
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Lucky number 11.
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Man, this, I feel like this is a fucking part of like a subplot of one of these movies.
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How likely are they going to be able to successfully take a niece dress shopping for her first
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boy-girl thing?
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Oh, man.
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I just feel like it would integrate very well into an actual Bad Boys movie, yeah.
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I mean, like-
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I mean, they would not do a good job.
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Well, but here's the thing, there'd be a lot of shenanigans.
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That's true.
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They'd end up with the right dress.
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A lot of shenanigans.
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But they would end up coming through at the end.
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That's true.
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So I'm going to give them a nine for this.
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I'm going to give them an eight just because there's going to be a lot of broken glass
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along the way.
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That's true, yeah.
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That's true, yeah.
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That was a good one for these boys.
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Not so bad, boys.
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Okay, Dan, give me another roll.
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Another roll brings us the number nine.
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Okay, so that, okay.
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You would know him as the director of Juror Number Two, Dirty Harry himself.
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You absolutely know him as the director of Juror Number Two.
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It's received almost no release.
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Yep, we're talking about Dirty Harry Callahan, played by Clint Eastwood in the Dirty Harry
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film.
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This is another one where I feel like we're going to have to separate in some ways, and
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I have been doing a bad job of this, the politics of the film and the character from the aesthetic
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and the actions of the character.
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Also, it's interesting.
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I mean, it's not like it's a critique or anything, but at least the first Dirty Harry sort of
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like reckons with the idea of like, oh, maybe a cop shouldn't be doing these things.
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I mean, he's called Dirty Harry, like he's not called Great Harry.
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He throws his badge away at the end.
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You're supposed to feel a little queasy, but then the sequels are like, ah, forget all
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that.
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What a great guy.
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Yeah.
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But even then, in terms of ratitude, I think he's, I mean, I love Clint Eastwood.
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Again, I don't agree with him politically, but I think he is a great presence on screen.
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I love so many of the movies he's made.
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But I don't know, in terms of ratitude, like it's not like I think of Dirty Harry as like
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a cool character, you know?
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Yeah.
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He's got like, he's got some nice 70s suits.
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He's got a really long gun.
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Yeah.
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It's so long.
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A long gun.
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Yeah.
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So I think I'm going to give him, I'm going to, I've been, this episode, I feel like I'm
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a little more luxurious with my grading.
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I'm going to give him a six on this one.
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No, I'm going to give him a five, actually.
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I'll give him a five on ratitude.
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He gets a five on ratitude.
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Damn.
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I'm going to, I'm going to stay parsimonious and I'm going to give him a five.
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Okay.
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Let's talk about badness.
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How bad is this dirty police officer?
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He's a pretty bad dude.
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He's a pretty bad dude.
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I mean, he can, he takes down Scorpio, uh, you know, who the, the regular legal system
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can't even handle this monster.
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Yeah.
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It's impossible to stop.
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I mean, he's, I mean, essentially he remains just a cop, like he is not, he does not ascend
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to like the level of action movie, uh, wildness that some of these, but like, I think it was
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a testament to how dirty this Harry is that I'm still going to give him a nine for badness.
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I think I'm going to give him an eight because yeah, I feel like he's just not at the same
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level in terms of action as some of the others, but he's so, he has such aplomb when he, and
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the fact that when he, you know, the, the famous speech, but how many, how many shots
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did I fire?
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You know, like that's just him talking a guy into not reaching for his gun.
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And that's pretty, that's pretty bad-ass pretty, pretty bad-ass.
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That's verbal action.
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Verbal fighting.
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Give me a lucky dip for old dirty Harry.
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That's a 13 again.
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Okay.
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Um, doop, doop, doop, doop, doop, doop.
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Sure has to adjust in real time as many numbers have been eliminated.
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Yeah.
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Ooh.
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Okay.
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Actually, I think he's going to have a little trouble with this old lucky dip, uh, on a
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scale of one to 10, one being very likely to 10 being very unlikely.
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This is another pre-election one?
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Yes.
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How likely is dirty Harry Callahan going to be canceled or metooed?
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Oh, so likely one.
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I mean, yeah.
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Well, very, very likely.
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Yeah.
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Very likely.
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Very likely was one, right?
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Yes.
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Oh wait.
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Unlikely was 10.
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Because the high scores are, you want them, the stuff that you like, you put at the high
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school.
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I was paying more attention to what you were saying Stuart than what you were.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Thank you.
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So I messed it up.
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So very unlikely is a one.
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Oh, very likely is a 10.
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Oh, then 10.
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He'll be canceled.
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I mean, he would go to jail.
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I'm not supporting the bad behavior.
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Wait a minute.
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I'm just going according to Stuart's score.
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I know.
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No, wait.
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I messed it up.
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Yeah.
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Previously, the idea was-
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The idea is that he should not get canceled.
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Exactly.
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So that's lower.
[15:52]
So he gets a one or a zero, right?
[15:53]
Wait, look.
[15:54]
Whatever one it is where he gets canceled, that's the one I'm picking.
[15:57]
Yeah.
[15:58]
Yeah.
[15:59]
So that's low.
[16:00]
Low.
[16:01]
Yeah.
[16:02]
So he gets a one.
[16:03]
We're both going low.
[16:04]
We're going to both give him a one, I think, for this.
[16:05]
Okay.
[16:06]
We did it.
[16:07]
Thank you guys.
[16:08]
He would certainly be brought up on charges.
[16:09]
Yeah.
[16:10]
He'd be reshuffled.
[16:11]
He'd be put on desk duty.
[16:12]
Yeah.
[16:13]
He loses-
[16:14]
Get a salary for doing nothing.
[16:15]
He's the kind of police officer that people protest about.
[16:17]
Yeah.
[16:18]
He'd have to move over to true social for his social media needs.
[16:21]
Okay, Dan, give me a roll for our next hero.
[16:24]
That's a four.
[16:26]
Or a, okay, that you would know him as the Shogun's Executioner, formerly Ogami Ito from
[16:33]
the Lone Wolf and Cubs series.
[16:35]
Dan, have you seen any of these?
[16:36]
I have not.
[16:37]
This is going to be-
[16:39]
These are fun.
[16:40]
Trouble for me.
[16:41]
Okay.
[16:42]
Well, imagine a man who can perform a cut on your neck that creates a whistling sound
[16:46]
that is something that swordsmen long to hear.
[16:51]
How ironic that they hear it from their own throat.
[16:53]
That's right.
[16:54]
Ogami Ito, the Shogun's Executioner, the baddest dude in the universe.
[16:58]
This is okay.
[16:59]
I don't remember if this happens in any of the movies.
[17:00]
In the comic, there's a scene where some guys are harassing a woman and to show them how
[17:05]
to treat a woman.
[17:06]
He has sex with her right in front of them and is not fazed at all by the fact that all
[17:09]
these bad dudes are watching and the woman loves it and he's just like, see, that's how
[17:13]
you do it.
[17:14]
And these guys are like, how is this man able to get a boner with us looking at him?
[17:20]
Is this, is Mifune, does he do this in the movies?
[17:23]
Who is it?
[17:24]
No.
[17:25]
No, no.
[17:26]
Okay.
[17:27]
I don't, actually, I don't remember the actor's name.
[17:28]
I can't remember his name either.
[17:29]
I'll look it up, but it's not Mifune.
[17:30]
Okay.
[17:31]
There's other Japanese actors, Dan.
[17:33]
I just thought I knew that.
[17:34]
There's Takeshi Shimura either, the other Japanese actor you were going to mention.
[17:39]
I'm at a, I'm at a disadvantage, but I'm going to say a seven.
[17:43]
I'm guessing at a seven.
[17:45]
He's pretty rad.
[17:46]
He pushes around a baby cart that can be converted into a variety of different weapons and killing
[17:51]
tools.
[17:52]
Yes.
[17:53]
Now that might be baditude, not ratitude, but I'm going to say, it's a, wait a minute.
[17:58]
Why am I freaking, well, I'm wasting my time looking up the, the actor's names, but it's
[18:03]
the, uh, cause I can't remember off the top of my head, but I am giving him a, uh, nine
[18:08]
in terms of ratitude because not only is he a super cool swordsman, he's a good dad.
[18:16]
That's and yeah, I feel like, I feel like Elliot of the three of us has a unique perspective
[18:21]
on being a dad.
[18:22]
Hmm.
[18:23]
And how rad it is.
[18:24]
Oh, it's a, it's a weird dad.
[18:25]
Tomasaburo Wakayama.
[18:26]
Thank you.
[18:27]
That's who got me into.
[18:28]
Uh, Elliot, have you ever given either of your sons the choice between, uh, the sword
[18:33]
and walking the demons road of my Fumato or choosing the ball and joining their, uh, ancestors
[18:39]
in, uh, the land of Yomi?
[18:41]
No, that's not a choice that I've ever given my children to be honest.
[18:45]
Oh, got me.
[18:46]
So did, but I think the thing is, this is a guy who's able to combine work with parenthood
[18:51]
in a way that all of us wish we could.
[18:54]
And he's always there for it.
[18:55]
He's always there for the cub.
[18:56]
Yeah.
[18:57]
Yeah.
[18:58]
He gets, yeah, he manages to achieve that balance.
[18:59]
It's pretty incredible.
[19:00]
Dan, uh, Elliot gave him a 10, Dan, you gave him a what for ratitude?
[19:05]
I gave him a seven.
[19:07]
Okay.
[19:08]
Bad attitude.
[19:09]
This dude has filled the entire shogunate with, uh, with bodies.
[19:14]
I mean, this is, I, the, the, the, the hells are full of his victims.
[19:17]
Yeah.
[19:18]
And he's again that he, he has a tricked out baby carriage full of weapons that he kills
[19:24]
people with.
[19:25]
Uh, he's a master swordsman.
[19:27]
He kills people.
[19:28]
They don't even know they're dead till later.
[19:29]
Um, so I'm going to give him a 10 on this one also, man.
[19:32]
He's doing great.
[19:33]
Okay.
[19:34]
You can only guess at the, I can only guess, but the tales I've heard, uh, told make me
[19:39]
think that he must receive a 10.
[19:42]
Okay.
[19:43]
Now give me, let's give me a lucky dip.
[19:44]
This might be a challenge for our boy.
[19:46]
Yeah.
[19:47]
Seven.
[19:48]
Okay.
[19:49]
Hmm.
[19:50]
Ooh, this might be a tough one.
[19:52]
It's only due to a language barrier.
[19:54]
Um, how likely on a scale of one to 10, can he finish the New York times?
[20:00]
Sunday crossword with no hints.
[20:02]
Now, I do have to point out,
[20:04]
he shouldn't be completing it right now
[20:05]
because the New York Tech Union,
[20:08]
New York Times Tech Union is currently on strike.
[20:10]
Yeah, as of this recording.
[20:11]
He should not, he shouldn't cross that picket line.
[20:14]
But imagine he did this way back in the day.
[20:18]
Yeah, I don't, I mean, like, I don't know canonically,
[20:21]
like whether he can speak English.
[20:25]
You know, again, this is an English language newspaper.
[20:28]
I'm assuming, I'm presuming that the,
[20:30]
I don't think that he, I don't remember,
[20:32]
certainly not in the movies.
[20:34]
Yeah, I'm gonna give him a one for this, unfortunately.
[20:36]
Yeah, he's gonna lose some points.
[20:37]
I'm also gonna give him a one.
[20:38]
He is living at a time when not only
[20:40]
would it be hard for him to learn English,
[20:42]
but he's living at a time when Japan is effectively
[20:45]
cut off from English language nations for the most part.
[20:49]
It's during the period before the reopening of Japan,
[20:52]
when America basically forced Japan
[20:54]
to start letting us trade where we wanted to.
[20:56]
So I'm gonna give him a one on this also, yeah.
[20:58]
I think he's gonna lack both the language skills
[20:59]
and the frame of reference.
[21:01]
When it says blank Morales, he's not gonna know.
[21:04]
No.
[21:05]
He's not gonna know it.
[21:06]
It's always Morales.
[21:07]
Yeah.
[21:08]
Yeah, and it's always acai berries.
[21:12]
They love it.
[21:13]
Okay, give me another one, Dan.
[21:16]
That's a 13 again.
[21:17]
13, okay.
[21:20]
Guys, we got another classic here.
[21:22]
There have been so many of these fucking movies.
[21:25]
That's right.
[21:26]
His name is James, James Bond.
[21:28]
Oh, yeah, yeah.
[21:30]
Stern is not shaken.
[21:34]
Played by a couple of actors you might've heard of.
[21:36]
Sean Connery, Roger Moore, Daniel Craig.
[21:39]
Yeah.
[21:40]
Timothy Dalton.
[21:42]
Timothy Dalton.
[21:42]
Pierce Brosnahan.
[21:44]
Pierce Brosnahan.
[21:46]
George Rasmussen.
[21:47]
The Lazy B.
[21:49]
The Lazy B.
[21:50]
Wow, well, here's the problem you run into.
[21:53]
Like, if this was the 60s,
[21:57]
obviously highest marks for radness.
[22:00]
You know, the tides, the cultural tides
[22:03]
have turned against some of the signifiers of James Bond.
[22:07]
Like his dislike of the Beatles, yeah.
[22:09]
Yes, he was wrong about the Beatles,
[22:12]
and he was wrong about the way he treated
[22:15]
most of his female cohorts.
[22:17]
Yeah, that's true.
[22:18]
Yeah, but he does, he is like kind of the avatar
[22:22]
of like, here's a bunch of cool stuff.
[22:24]
Like, here's, you're gonna wear a tuxedo,
[22:26]
and you're not gonna care if you're a spy
[22:28]
and people know your name,
[22:29]
and you're gonna drink martinis,
[22:30]
and you're gonna have gadgets.
[22:31]
Yeah, you're gonna be good at gambling.
[22:33]
Constantly cool and collect cool stuff all the time.
[22:35]
Cool stuff like gambling.
[22:37]
Yeah, you're gonna do the coolest thing there is,
[22:40]
back a rat.
[22:41]
Back a rat.
[22:41]
Back a rat.
[22:42]
Back a rat.
[22:43]
Back a rat.
[22:44]
Back a rat.
[22:45]
Back a rat.
[22:46]
Back a rat.
[22:47]
Back a rat.
[22:47]
Back a rat.
[22:48]
I mean, all that said, I mean.
[22:50]
Yo, have you guys ever,
[22:52]
have you ever gone to like a Vegas casino
[22:54]
and been like, I wanna go play back a rat.
[22:56]
No.
[22:57]
I don't know how to play it, otherwise, yeah, sorry.
[22:58]
Kill the John Barry theme, boys,
[23:00]
I'm playing some back a rat.
[23:03]
I mean, if you count the song
[23:04]
as part of his general effect,
[23:06]
then it goes up a couple notches,
[23:07]
because that's such a cool, rad song.
[23:09]
Yes.
[23:10]
I, yeah, that's the thing.
[23:11]
Like, even with the.
[23:13]
I do count the song, though.
[23:14]
Even with the shit, I still kind of have
[23:16]
to give him an eight for this, I think.
[23:18]
Oh, see, I'm gonna give him a nine, yeah.
[23:20]
If the song is factored in, and just like,
[23:23]
I feel even though he has,
[23:24]
so much of the older stuff has aged poorly,
[23:27]
he has such the ur-text for action star.
[23:30]
Like, that's as far back as you can go
[23:33]
before it starts to seem kind of like
[23:35]
weirdly disconnected from what we think of
[23:38]
as an action hero today, yeah.
[23:40]
And badness.
[23:41]
How bad is James Bond?
[23:43]
This is a hard one,
[23:44]
because he, like, he's done so much.
[23:46]
He's saved the world so many times,
[23:48]
and yet, like, I feel like there's a certain
[23:51]
lack of total badness to him.
[23:55]
I'm also gonna give him an eight for this.
[23:57]
It's hard to explain, but I don't feel the total badness.
[23:58]
I'm gonna give him an eight on this one, too.
[24:00]
I'm also gonna give him an eight on this one.
[24:01]
I feel like if you put him in a room
[24:03]
with some of these other characters,
[24:05]
he would not have much of a chance.
[24:07]
But if you put him in a factory,
[24:10]
or on a crane, or something like that,
[24:12]
with some of these other characters,
[24:13]
he would win. Or skiing somewhere.
[24:14]
Or skiing, exactly, yeah.
[24:15]
Jesus, put him on skis.
[24:17]
He's gonna wreck everybody.
[24:18]
Yeah.
[24:19]
Okay, so give me a lucky dip for old James.
[24:21]
For Jimmy.
[24:22]
That's a 12.
[24:24]
12, okay.
[24:30]
You wanna cross some of these off?
[24:32]
I should, yeah.
[24:33]
Okay.
[24:34]
Oh, he wasn't crossing them out?
[24:35]
Now, if James Bond were to appear on a...
[24:40]
Yeah.
[24:41]
How do I frame this as a...
[24:42]
I've been having some challenges framing this.
[24:45]
It's so good that he didn't get
[24:46]
the giving advice on a date one.
[24:48]
That would be a bad category for him, yeah.
[24:50]
Also, the getting canceled one.
[24:51]
He'd be pretty likely. Oh, for sure, yeah.
[24:53]
Okay, if you were to transport the character,
[24:57]
James Bond, into a rom-com,
[25:01]
on a scale of one being wouldn't work at all,
[25:05]
10 being he would fit in seamlessly,
[25:08]
it would be a normal rom-com.
[25:10]
James Bond is basically a rom-com character.
[25:12]
Where does he fit?
[25:15]
I think he still gets pretty high.
[25:16]
I mean, you say normal rom-com,
[25:18]
I think you might wanna spin it where it's like...
[25:21]
Like a 90s rom-com.
[25:22]
I mean, this is true of most rom-coms
[25:24]
where someone needs to learn a lesson.
[25:27]
Maybe he needs to learn to not be so sexist,
[25:31]
but he's a dapper man who wears evening wear and is suave.
[25:37]
I would give him a seven, I think.
[25:39]
Oh, see, I'm gonna give him an eight
[25:40]
because I could see it going either way.
[25:41]
Either he is the guy who learns a lesson
[25:43]
or he is the bad boyfriend
[25:45]
who the main character has to win the girl of his dreams from
[25:51]
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[25:53]
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[25:55]
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[33:24]
He's a Highlander.
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Where's a kilt?
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Conor McCloud.
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Okay, I've only seen Highlander.
[33:31]
I have not seen Highlander 2, colon, The Quickening yet.
[33:34]
Did you see Highlander 3?
[33:36]
What was it, The Final Dimension?
[33:38]
Something like that?
[33:38]
I think so, with Mario Van Peebles.
[33:40]
Yeah, I remember seeing that in the theaters.
[33:42]
I did, too.
[33:43]
I also remember the trailer.
[33:44]
Yeah, I remember the trailer where they're like,
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his name is Kane.
[33:48]
Yeah, and he can make a truck turn invisible.
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Fucking cool as hell.
[33:53]
As someone who, you know, my uncle-
[33:58]
Oh, that's, wait a minute.
[33:59]
Highlander, oh, Highlander 3 was The Sorcerer.
[34:02]
And this was, oh no, did it have two different titles?
[34:04]
Was that it?
[34:05]
Yeah, and then there's, wait a minute.
[34:07]
Oh, so it was two different titles.
[34:08]
That's what it was, yeah.
[34:09]
Oh, thank God.
[34:10]
We saw it as Highlander, The Final Dimension.
[34:12]
Yep.
[34:14]
What's the animated lightning in those movies?
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Is that part of his powers,
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or does it just imbue him with something?
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Or like, it's a long-
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Well, when he chops somebody's head off
[34:22]
and he gets hit with lightning to get strong.
[34:24]
Oh, okay.
[34:25]
Yeah, I think that's him absorbing their power, right?
[34:28]
Yeah.
[34:29]
Well, okay, so he's got lightning stuff going on.
[34:31]
And I was gonna say,
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as my uncle would not let us forget growing up,
[34:36]
we are of Scottish heritage,
[34:38]
so gotta love a Highlander, you know?
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Wears a kilt around and such.
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He goes to wrestling matches by himself as an adult.
[34:48]
Maybe give him a seven for radness.
[34:51]
Okay.
[34:52]
All right, I mean-
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He owns a curiosity shop.
[34:55]
The thing is, I love-
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Is it old?
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Not old enough.
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I love Scottish things.
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Scotland, I think, is maybe my second favorite country
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in terms of countries I've spent time in.
[35:04]
I love curiosity shops,
[35:05]
but I'm gonna have to give him like a four.
[35:07]
I just don't find him very rad.
[35:10]
Oof, okay.
[35:11]
Well, I think he was hoping to clean up in that category.
[35:13]
Let's talk about badness.
[35:15]
How bad is this Highlander?
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I mean, there can be only one,
[35:18]
which seems like that's pretty bad in and of itself.
[35:21]
It's pretty bad, but they keep showing up.
[35:24]
They do keep showing up.
[35:25]
Even though there can be only one,
[35:26]
there's quite a few of them, yeah.
[35:28]
Yeah, it's lousy with them.
[35:30]
I'm also, you know, seven's a cross.
[35:32]
Okay, seven's a cross.
[35:33]
Elliot.
[35:34]
I'll give him a six.
[35:37]
Okay.
[35:38]
No, you know what?
[35:39]
I'll give him a seven.
[35:40]
Okay.
[35:41]
Jesse Brown is like, I got beaten by a six.
[35:45]
Okay, give me a lucky dip roll for this Highlander.
[35:51]
We got a loop all the way back around.
[35:53]
No, there we are.
[35:56]
Oh no, okay.
[35:57]
On a scale of one being unlikely,
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wait, one being very likely to 10 being very unlikely,
[36:07]
how likely is Connor McCloud going to vote independent
[36:11]
in the United States election?
[36:14]
Oh boy.
[36:15]
Now, assuming that he is a citizen,
[36:18]
because again, he's from Scotland, right?
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But maybe he became a naturalized citizen at some point.
[36:22]
Yes, we're going to assume that.
[36:26]
I'm gonna say pretty high, I think,
[36:28]
pretty likely that he would vote independent.
[36:30]
So that's a low score.
[36:31]
I'm getting like a sort of a libertarian vibe off of that.
[36:34]
Yeah, me too.
[36:36]
I don't know, I'll give him what low is likely,
[36:38]
I'll give him a three.
[36:40]
Yeah.
[36:40]
Yeah, I'm gonna give him a three also.
[36:42]
Not great.
[36:44]
Okay, give me another roll, Dan.
[36:46]
We're getting near the bottom.
[36:47]
The roll is a nine.
[36:51]
It is a nine.
[36:52]
That goes, okay, that's right.
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This guy has a certain set of skills
[36:57]
and those skills, sometimes they ain't pretty.
[37:00]
That's right, we have everybody's favorite character,
[37:02]
Brian Mills.
[37:04]
What?
[37:05]
Brian, you don't know Brian Mills?
[37:08]
General Mills, right, yeah.
[37:10]
Brian Mills from the Taken franchise.
[37:12]
Oh, I thought his name was Liam Taken.
[37:15]
You know what?
[37:16]
It's Brian Mills.
[37:18]
I didn't even remember from our aborted earlier text
[37:22]
to do this episode.
[37:26]
We've been over this.
[37:27]
Okay, yeah.
[37:28]
So as we, I think we've all agree, we all agree,
[37:30]
he would score very high if the category was dadness.
[37:34]
Yeah, dadness was high for Brian Mills.
[37:36]
Dadness would be a big category for him.
[37:38]
But it's not, it's radness.
[37:39]
Radness, I think he's gonna be pretty low on this.
[37:42]
I mean, I generally like seeing Liam Neeson in movies,
[37:46]
but I feel like the whole point of Brian Mills
[37:47]
is that he is, you don't suspect
[37:49]
that he is going to have this stuff inside of him.
[37:51]
He doesn't project as a cool, you know.
[37:53]
I feel like he gets an extra point for that speech,
[37:56]
his speech about skills.
[37:58]
That's pretty cool, but that's not enough.
[37:59]
I don't think it's enough to really put him
[38:01]
in the heavy end.
[38:02]
I'd give him like a three, even with the speech factored in.
[38:05]
For intensity and for tallness,
[38:08]
I'm gonna give him a five.
[38:10]
Tallness, you know, hey, it's one of the most,
[38:13]
one of the most sought after attractive features.
[38:15]
And realize tallness was one of the things,
[38:17]
I guess I'll tell Puck from Alpha Flight
[38:19]
that you'll be grading him low, Dan.
[38:22]
Oh, yeah.
[38:23]
Okay, now badness.
[38:24]
How bad is this battler?
[38:25]
He's got a specific particular set of skills, you know.
[38:29]
Yep, he's pretty bad.
[38:31]
You know, and he maintained being bad
[38:34]
even as he aged through several sequels.
[38:37]
Mm-hmm.
[38:38]
And he can start out like such a spring chicken.
[38:40]
Even starting out, I feel like Liam Neeson
[38:42]
has admitted that he's like shocked
[38:44]
that they've been as successful as they were.
[38:46]
Yeah.
[38:48]
He and Nicolas Cage both, it is a very strange thing
[38:51]
for them to suddenly become action stars.
[38:53]
Like Nicolas Cage was this strange kind of like
[38:56]
experimental actor in many ways,
[38:58]
and then was in Con Air and The Rock
[39:00]
and all those others, and it's like,
[39:01]
oh, no, no, he's a huge action star.
[39:03]
And Liam Neeson, similarly, I mean, he was Darkman.
[39:05]
But like, you wouldn't know for the rest of his filmography
[39:08]
that he would become an action star late in life, yeah.
[39:11]
And then be fighting wolves with his bare hands, you know.
[39:13]
Yeah.
[39:14]
Do you think that Liam Neeson now regrets
[39:16]
not being Darkman in the Darkman sequels?
[39:21]
You'd have to ask him.
[39:22]
It might not come up in his minds that much.
[39:24]
I'll text him.
[39:25]
I'll send him a text.
[39:26]
I just wanna say for badness,
[39:27]
I think he suffers from the company
[39:31]
we have kept so far in these minis.
[39:33]
I'll give him a seven.
[39:35]
Okay.
[39:36]
Hey, if you lose a daughter, he's gonna find that thing.
[39:39]
I'll also give him a seven.
[39:41]
I feel like he is, again, he cuts through bad guys
[39:44]
like a hot knife through butter.
[39:46]
But when you compare him to Conan the Barbarian.
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It's tough.
[39:49]
You know, it's tough.
[39:50]
Or The Widow, you know, it's tough.
[39:52]
Dan, what do you roll?
[39:53]
I assume that this like weird thing
[39:55]
is the equivalent of a 20.
[39:56]
Yup.
[39:58]
Okay, Brian.
[39:59]
Man, I think he's gonna be.
[40:00]
pretty good at this one on a scale of 1 being unlikely to 10 being very likely how likely
[40:07]
is Brian Mills going to give a great wedding speech speeches I feel like he would fucking
[40:14]
do that in a taken movie to yeah I think so daughter's wedding he's got that gravitas
[40:19]
to you know yeah I think I feel like he is a dad again he is a dad felt dad again that's
[40:25]
my favorite movie I'm not gonna give him top marks because I don't think there's gonna
[40:29]
be a lot of humor in that speech but in terms of heart like I'm gonna give him a nine oh
[40:33]
people are gonna feel it they're gonna have a lump in their throat I'm also gonna give
[40:36]
him a nine yeah okay Brian Mills good points okay Dan give me a roll we are down to two
[40:42]
okay that's a two perfect you nailed it right on the head she has fought Queens she's fought
[40:48]
babies she is Ellen Ripley hero from the information about what kind of babies Oh changes your
[40:58]
opinion when I don't say alien in there right Ellen Ripley he is the as the hero we're talking
[41:05]
about played by Sigourney Weaver this will also I'll also include the like what Ripley
[41:13]
alien hybrid type thing from alien resurrection Ripley it's still I mean it's you know whether
[41:19]
that's real still Ripley or not is a question for the philosophers Dan but yeah well Stewart
[41:24]
brought up one of my read like look she's introduced as kind of deliberately on rad
[41:31]
you know the the idea was you don't know an alien who the hero is gonna be like she was
[41:36]
not a big name maybe it's the alien time yeah it could be the alien mean the alien walks
[41:41]
away looking pretty good in that yeah probably not in a hole yeah probably pretty sure he's
[41:46]
not gonna be the hero so she starts from a place of deliberate on radness but by the
[41:52]
end of that movie she's in her underwear by the end of the series she is a hybrid alien
[42:00]
who's been rebirthed so overall I think I'm gonna give her seven she's pretty red I'm
[42:06]
gonna give her an eight for radness I agree she is not coded as cool necessarily but once
[42:11]
again I'm giving her strong woman in a man's world points and also her jumpsuit looks cool
[42:18]
I love that 80s style you know that it's 79 but it feels more 80s at times than 70
[42:22]
and also like she pulls off the bald head look very well pulls it off great yeah and
[42:27]
she and she is this really cool art she's cool okay let's talk about badness how bad
[42:32]
is well she might not stack up against some of these other non-stop killing machines but
[42:37]
she does fight like the ultimate living weapon and win regularly yes yeah she's she well
[42:44]
Dan you say what you're gonna say it sounds like you have a it's a mixed decision I think
[42:49]
you know she does die at least once and you know her life is is true you were the one
[42:54]
who said that the other one was with the one after she died was her no no I well I'm saying
[43:00]
out of like the four times she's encountered an alien she lost once arguably that was a
[43:05]
draw that was I would not address she she threw herself into a vat of fire and lava
[43:11]
seems like a victory I mean the fact that she's willing to do that though I'll give her a nine
[43:21]
I'm gonna give her a nine as well I feel like she more because of her how quickly she learns
[43:26]
she is not she is not trained as a soldier as far as we can tell but she picks up fighting
[43:31]
with a flamethrower really fast she can control the power loader she has sex with an alien in
[43:36]
the fourth one she's willing to jump into a vat of lava like she's it's pretty it's all pretty
[43:41]
badass she'll do whatever it takes to get that alien so fucking rocks that's a nine she's one
[43:46]
of the great characters in all of action film yeah yeah damn give me a lucky dip roll that's a four
[43:52]
okay okay this was good the there were kind of two options here and one of them she was not going to
[44:00]
morning her daughter she's bad okay so on a scale of one being unlikely ten being very likely how
[44:10]
likely is she going to get approval for a small business loan sorry which one's very likely okay
[44:16]
one is unlikely um well she has a long she's a long employment history there's a gap in the
[44:25]
middle where she was in cryogenic sleep yeah he does pick up skills quickly as Elliot says
[44:32]
yes you know like the the load power loader she's good as that but true but I do think that the fact
[44:38]
that her life is entwined with the aliens forever probably gonna harm her so I'm gonna give her a
[44:45]
five I'm gonna split the difference now see I'm gonna give her a seven I feel like she dots her
[44:50]
eyes and crosses her T's you know she does things by protocol by the book so whatever hoop she's got
[44:54]
to jump through to get that loan she'll do it I think there is a high probability that an alien
[44:59]
will appear during the loan approval process which might make it more difficult unless the bank
[45:05]
manager is super impressed by what he sees when she did when she kills that alien so so I'm gonna
[45:10]
get a seven but uh it's always possible that they'll say you're too big a risk yeah yeah okay
[45:16]
they will say your credit history has a huge as a huge gap you had you didn't you didn't borrow
[45:21]
a credit card for 50 years you know we don't need to roll at all we are down to one final
[45:29]
action hero that's right that's Frank Martin who's this Jason save them from the transporter
[45:38]
film the transporter he has a simple rule no women no kids yeah I think there's a I mean
[45:47]
there's a fairly million other rules actually he is the opposite of lone wolf in that one wolves
[45:53]
only only transports kids mm-hmm yeah it's true yeah a fairly high level of radness like he's you
[46:01]
know he's got the suit transports things he's gonna rise is really driving his have you seen
[46:07]
his amps yeah you know the sheer statham ness of this he really missed out on not getting the
[46:14]
Olympics one cuz wasn't he like an Olympic diver I don't know whether he actually ever made it that
[46:20]
high but he was definitely like yeah he was a statham or the transporter no the transporter
[46:26]
isn't is just a man of many skills yeah one of them is driving a competitive diver I don't know
[46:31]
exactly how high so how rad is he though I'm gonna give an eight for red okay I'm gonna give him you
[46:38]
know what I'm gonna be a little tougher on him I'm gonna give him a six the transporter has always
[46:41]
felt a little secondhand to me okay he is he is trading on the on the style and fumes of other
[46:48]
previous action characters yeah but what about badness uh I mean this is another one where it's
[46:58]
like he's tough he can definitely like fight his way through a room even though he's slipping on
[47:03]
some oil that is like an all-timer action sequence it's a great sequence what about that bit in part
[47:09]
two where he flips his car upside down so hook knocks the bomb that's strapped to the bottom of
[47:14]
his car off yeah I mean he can do some amazing things with cars just like our fast and furious
[47:19]
friend and then there's the third one where he is like transporting that like Russian girl who's
[47:24]
been kidnapped and it turns into this weird like sub-dom like kink relationship it's pretty great
[47:30]
yeah these are all good points I don't know I guess that doesn't affect his body I feel I don't know
[47:37]
I still feel like I influence a little bit by Elliot about how threadbare some of this is even
[47:43]
though I do enjoy it okay I'll give it a seven seven for badness okay seven as well he can handle
[47:49]
himself he's got a lot of great moves he does cool things I feel even if they don't always
[47:53]
cohere into a into a hole for me yeah you know he might actually do okay on this how likely on a
[48:00]
scale of one being unlikely ten being very likely how likely is this to transport something how
[48:08]
likely is he to comfortably retire as an old man oh I'm maybe of everyone on this list maybe except
[48:16]
for John McClane maybe I would give it I would give him a high mark on this I feel like he's
[48:21]
gonna do well yeah he's got all these rules and stuff you know he's a suit he's very professional
[48:25]
I would give him ready to walk away I feel like he could walk away from this at a moment's notice
[48:29]
and he does not his job gets him into trouble once he stops doing that job I feel like he's he
[48:34]
could just be he just go be a beekeeper this was yeah this was the category I was worried Ripley
[48:40]
was gonna pull because there's no way she's comfortably retiring fighting aliens until the
[48:45]
very end yeah yeah they're in a death spiral I just because there's a chance that he just might
[48:51]
you know transport one too many things before and get knocked off I'm gonna dock him a point but
[48:57]
I'll give him a nine I could see that I could see that but I think as opposed I feel like especially
[49:01]
comparison to the other characters he's the he's maybe the most likely yeah yeah the bad boys I
[49:05]
could see retiring at some point yeah so someday okay so that has been I'm gonna tally up the
[49:12]
scores hey so this is your game master Stuart Wellington chiming in with the final tally for
[49:24]
our rankings of action movie heroes official rankings for the flop house now I've tallied up
[49:32]
all the scores and we have our top three contestants now coming in third we actually
[49:38]
have an even tie that's right James Bond and Indiana Jones both tie at 71 points not bad out
[49:49]
of a possible 90 that is pretty good and they both struggled a little bit when it came to the lucky
[49:54]
but that is often the case moving on to our second place this is
[50:00]
This is a big deal, but before actually I get there. Let's go. Let's take a little pause
[50:04]
Let's look at our lowest scoring hero, and I think this is a little bit of a surprise for fans of the flop house
[50:11]
That's right Cameron Poe coming in dead last
[50:15]
unfortunately his easy
[50:18]
Forrest Gump Ian
[50:19]
Jesus like charm just did not put him on the scoreboard
[50:24]
So let's get back to the real scores, let's talk at number two
[50:28]
This is our number two action movie hero, and that's right coming in big
[50:32]
We got the Sumerian himself a king by his own hand Conan the barbarian with a whopping
[50:40]
78 points out of 90 that is huge and
[50:45]
Honestly, he might have managed to take number one if he hadn't had a weak
[50:50]
Radness score from mr.. Dan McCoy Dan McCoy coming in as the spoiler this time
[50:56]
That means there can be only one that's right the black mamba
[51:01]
Beatrix kiddo
[51:02]
Aka the bride she killed bill and she killed our hearts
[51:07]
She comes in with 80 points just beating out Conan the barbarian
[51:12]
So that's it there you have it folks the official rankings of action movie heroes here at the flop house
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Back to you guys
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Whoa that was a shocker, so thank you so much for participating in this
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This has been the official rankings of 2024 can't wait to revisit them in 2025
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Okay, so for the flop us. This has been a flop house mini. We are part of the maximum fun podcast Network
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We are produced by Alexander Smith. He is known as Howell Doughty on the internet. He's a musician. He's a podcast producer
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He's great for the flop house. I've been Stuart Wellington. I've been Dan McCoy. I'm an Elliot Kaelin can't believe those results
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