mini Nov 30, 2024 00:52:06

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[0:31] This time, it's personal.
[0:33] Hey, hey, it's me, Stuart Wellington
[0:39] of the Flophouse podcast
[0:41] and we're here for another Flophouse mini.
[0:43] That's right, normally we make episodes of a podcast
[0:46] where we watch a bad movie and talk about it.
[0:48] But on the minis, we do whatever we want.
[0:50] We normally goof around and do silly bone stuff,
[0:52] but this time we're doing serious bone stuff.
[0:54] We are doing a no nonsense breakdown
[0:58] of the best action heroes in cinema history
[1:01] as voted by the Flophouse.
[1:03] We are voting them and rating them
[1:05] on three different categories.
[1:06] That's right, radness, badness and lucky dip.
[1:09] We have already got 10 out of the way.
[1:10] If you are like, I'm lost,
[1:12] go back to the episode two weeks ago,
[1:15] listen to that shit and get caught up.
[1:17] We don't have time for that
[1:18] because we got 10 more action heroes to talk about.
[1:21] So Dan, I think it's time.
[1:23] I haven't even introduced my co-host.
[1:24] I know.
[1:25] That is, who's sitting to my left?
[1:27] That could be a mystery, Dan.
[1:29] That could be, I don't know.
[1:29] That could be Dan Stevens, yeah.
[1:30] Yeah.
[1:31] Oh my God.
[1:32] Oh man, it could be Dan Stevens, if only.
[1:35] To be sitting next to Dan Stevens.
[1:36] No, I'm Dan McCoy and with us as always is.
[1:39] Elliot Kalin, that's right.
[1:41] And your main host tonight, Stuart Wellington.
[1:44] Let's grip it and rip it, Dan, roll with it.
[1:47] But okay, it's eight.
[1:49] Okay, we are, we're all the way,
[1:53] man, we've looped all the way around.
[1:55] We are back into the Johns, guys.
[1:57] John Towne, that's right.
[1:59] We are talking about the star of First Blood,
[2:01] First Blood Part Two, John Rambo.
[2:04] John Rambo, he's got the hair, he's got the muscles,
[2:07] he's got the bandana, he's killed a lot of people.
[2:11] He's a weapon, you know,
[2:13] he was trained to be a living weapon, yeah.
[2:15] So let's talk about it.
[2:18] Do you guys have opinions on Mr. John Rambo?
[2:20] Do you like those movies?
[2:21] I like the first one and I like, I don't know,
[2:25] the one that I saw with Elliot, I kinda liked too.
[2:27] What was that?
[2:28] Which one was that? The fourth one?
[2:29] Yeah.
[2:30] Yeah, the one where he goes, he's in,
[2:32] where is it, he's in Malaysia or is it Burma?
[2:34] No, he's in Burma, yeah.
[2:35] With all the, where it's like he's older.
[2:38] Yeah, I hated the most recent one.
[2:39] I don't think I've even seen two or three, I'll be honest.
[2:42] Oh, wow, I remember liking both of those,
[2:45] but I was a kid and dumb.
[2:46] Yes, those movies are dumb.
[2:48] The last one I did not like, but overall,
[2:50] those are my, the first one is a good movie,
[2:53] but overall, the other ones are like
[2:54] guilty pleasures of mine,
[2:56] because they're just, they're ridiculous, you know,
[2:58] but the last one I did not like.
[2:59] The way I live my life, none of my pleasures are guilty.
[3:02] Then you're not doing all right, Stu.
[3:06] Here's the thing though, I do enjoy some of the Rambo,
[3:09] but I would not call him, I don't know,
[3:12] there's not a lot of radness for me.
[3:14] For me, there's not a lot of radness.
[3:16] Like he's, like in the first one, he's a sad man.
[3:19] In all of them, he's a very, there's a lot of sadness
[3:21] in the Rambo movies.
[3:23] And yeah, a lot of PTSD.
[3:26] I don't know, he has a bandana or like a headband
[3:28] or whatever.
[3:29] What about that, your worst nightmare line?
[3:30] That was from a...
[3:32] He's got good lines.
[3:33] Yeah, I don't know.
[3:34] I'm gonna give him a three though.
[3:36] He's not, this is not a rad action hero
[3:38] so much as it is...
[3:39] When I think of Rambo, I sometimes mix him up
[3:41] with Charlie Sheen's character from Hot Shots Part Two.
[3:44] Yeah, very similar, same bow and arrow and headband.
[3:49] I'm gonna give him a five,
[3:51] because I agree he's not a cool character
[3:53] you would wanna be.
[3:54] He's very sad, he's haunted by the things that he's done
[3:58] and that have been done to him.
[4:00] But at the same time, to be that character
[4:02] and to get some good wisecracks out
[4:04] and kind of intimidate people,
[4:05] and also to know how to paint yourself up
[4:06] so you look like the trunk of a tree,
[4:09] just in case the guy you're fighting happens
[4:10] to walk by that one particular tree, that's pretty bad.
[4:14] So I'm gonna, it's pretty rad.
[4:16] So I'm gonna give him a five for radness, yeah.
[4:18] Dan, what was your score again?
[4:20] I think I gave him a three.
[4:21] Okay, let's go into badness.
[4:23] How bad is this?
[4:23] Now for badness, now, on the other hand,
[4:26] this is where he cleans up,
[4:27] because I haven't seen those middle movies,
[4:30] but it's my understanding that he single-handedly
[4:33] gets us a redo and wins the Vietnam War.
[4:35] He wins the Vietnam War,
[4:36] he pushes the Russians out of Afghanistan.
[4:39] He's a one-man Army Corps.
[4:40] Yeah, he's an OMAC.
[4:41] Yeah, he gets a 10 for badness for me.
[4:43] Yeah, 10 for sure.
[4:44] And he's been stabbed and shot so many times,
[4:46] and it just does not faze him, yeah.
[4:48] It was watching Rambo III that I learned
[4:50] that if, I think it was III,
[4:51] where if you get shot,
[4:52] you can just fill the hole with gunpowder
[4:54] and light it on fire to cauterize the wound.
[4:56] If you're Rambo, you can.
[4:58] As a kid, I assumed, when I would grow up,
[5:01] I would use that information all the time.
[5:06] Dan, give me a roll on lucky dip, baby.
[5:08] Yeah, you got a 14 there.
[5:10] A 14 for old John Rambo.
[5:14] Ooh, okay, this is interesting.
[5:17] John Rambo falls through a portal
[5:19] into mythological Greece.
[5:21] How likely, on a scale of one to 10,
[5:24] is he going to complete the 12 labors of Heracles?
[5:27] Oh, I mean, I feel like that's a 10.
[5:29] Come on.
[5:30] Yeah, I mean-
[5:31] He's gonna kill that Nemean lion.
[5:32] He's gonna kill the hydra.
[5:34] He's gonna steal that girdle.
[5:35] How's he gonna handle the stables?
[5:37] The stables is the hard one.
[5:39] That's the hardest one.
[5:40] He's gotta redirect that river.
[5:41] I bet he could figure out a way to do it,
[5:43] just with the weapons at hand, yeah.
[5:45] Yeah, I mean, to my knowledge-
[5:47] The geology of stables is the hard one, yeah.
[5:49] To my knowledge, John Rambo is not a half-god man,
[5:55] so he loses a point for me for that,
[5:57] but otherwise, I'm gonna give him a nine.
[5:59] He seems as close to a Greek hero as you can get.
[6:03] Yeah, for sure, that is a good category for him.
[6:06] Yeah, lucky for him.
[6:08] Okay, okay, Dan, give me another, who's our next hero?
[6:13] I got a six here.
[6:15] Six here would be, okay.
[6:17] Wait, that's a nine, it doesn't matter.
[6:19] Okay, it doesn't matter.
[6:21] So we have the star of Kill Bill and Kill Bill 2,
[6:24] the hero of Kill Bill and Kill Bill 2,
[6:26] the Bride, aka Beatrix Kiddo, played by Uma Thurman.
[6:31] Yeah, I mean, she wears a yellow tracksuit around.
[6:36] Yeah, like a Bruce Lee tracksuit.
[6:37] So I think that that's gotta be like a 10 for Radness.
[6:42] It's gotta be a 10 for Radness, for sure.
[6:44] She looks super rad, yeah.
[6:46] Yeah, okay, what about Badness?
[6:51] I mean, almost as high.
[6:52] She like kills all of the, like the 99 whatevers
[6:56] or whatever, what are they called?
[6:57] The 99 whatevers, are they called the 99 whatevers?
[7:00] Now you have to face the 99 whatevers.
[7:03] What are they exactly?
[7:05] She punches her way out of a grave, like, I don't know.
[7:08] She teaches herself how to move her entire body
[7:10] when all she can move is her toe, you know?
[7:12] Yeah, I think just out of like a weird instinct
[7:15] to not clean up too hard, I'm gonna give her a nine,
[7:18] but maybe it should be a 10, I don't know, nine.
[7:20] I'm not threatened by powerful women the way Dan is,
[7:23] so I'm gonna give her a 10.
[7:24] Okay, okay, and let's give me a lucky dip.
[7:27] How does, how does the Bride perform?
[7:29] What if the category is digging yourself out of a grave?
[7:31] You have to give her a 10. Oh, she crushed it!
[7:33] 15.
[7:35] Okay, so if the Bride was able to put all this revenge
[7:40] and whatnot behind her, how likely, on a scale of one to 10,
[7:44] would she be successful as a social media star?
[7:48] Oh, I think pretty high.
[7:49] I mean, she's like a beautiful white lady,
[7:53] and she's got a track suit.
[7:55] She's got a kid at the end, right?
[7:57] So like, that's, there's a lot of mommy influencers
[8:00] out there, yeah.
[8:01] Yeah, I think that, I think, yeah, she's doing pretty well.
[8:05] And an interest in Asian culture,
[8:07] which is also, which can also be big online, so yeah.
[8:10] Although she might get canceled for, again,
[8:12] being a white lady who's like appropriating that culture.
[8:14] Yeah, that's possible, that's possible, yeah.
[8:17] I'm gonna give her an eight for this.
[8:19] Yeah, I'm also gonna give her an eight, yeah.
[8:21] Not bad, though, these are good scores.
[8:23] These are high scores. She did really well.
[8:24] Actually, the thing that takes her down is,
[8:26] I worry that she would have trouble
[8:27] with the digital interface,
[8:28] because she's such an analog, hands-on person, you know?
[8:31] That's true.
[8:32] She can really admire and understand
[8:34] the Hattori Hanzo sword, but I don't know
[8:36] if she's gonna be able to figure out that app.
[8:38] Yeah, that's true.
[8:39] Okay, Dan, give me a roll.
[8:40] Who's our next hero?
[8:41] We got a 15 here.
[8:43] A 15 is, okay.
[8:47] We have the stars of the Bad Boys franchise.
[8:52] Detective Mike Lowry and Marcus Burnett,
[8:55] played by Will Smith and Martin Lawrence.
[8:59] These are huge movies, huge action movies.
[9:01] Elliot, have you seen any of them?
[9:02] I've seen the first two.
[9:03] I've not seen the new one.
[9:04] There's two newer ones, right?
[9:06] Two newer ones.
[9:07] Bad Boys Forever and Bad Boys Ride or Die.
[9:09] Wow, you nailed it.
[9:10] Yeah.
[9:11] You have been paying attention to the billboards in LA.
[9:15] Exactly, but I haven't seen either of those.
[9:17] They lost me.
[9:17] To be honest, they kind of lost me
[9:18] with those two rats having sex in the second one.
[9:21] What?
[9:23] Pause the fucking podcast, Dan.
[9:24] The moment where the person sitting next to me
[9:26] like couldn't contain themselves and started nudging me
[9:29] by how funny they thought it was.
[9:32] I've enjoyed the two most recent ones.
[9:36] The movies make a radical switch in tone
[9:39] from Michael Bay not caring about humanity
[9:42] to suddenly being like, hey, it's a love story
[9:45] between these two aging police officers.
[9:48] The trailers look much more serious
[9:49] than the previous movies, yeah.
[9:50] Yeah, you know, they're not great, but they're fun.
[9:56] How rad are these two dudes?
[9:57] Well, I mean, I don't know.
[10:00] They've got a lot of the signifiers of radness.
[10:03] I do not think it is quite so rad that there are two cops who go around just like wildly
[10:09] shooting things and like running cars into shantytowns.
[10:14] That's true.
[10:15] Which to be fair, Jackie Chan does in the first police story too pretty much.
[10:19] Yeah.
[10:20] Bad guys doing that.
[10:21] Yeah.
[10:22] They level for that a lot.
[10:23] This is a fantasy world so I'm not going to, you know, take them too much to task for that
[10:28] but I will give them just a five.
[10:30] Okay.
[10:31] I'm going to give them, I think I'm going to give them a six.
[10:35] Okay.
[10:36] Yeah.
[10:37] I mean they're fun.
[10:38] Like part of the success of these movies is you like spending time with them.
[10:41] Yeah.
[10:42] Yeah.
[10:43] Okay.
[10:44] How bad are these bad bullies?
[10:45] They are.
[10:46] It's right in the title.
[10:47] It is right in the title, right?
[10:49] But I feel like they are not, I don't know, it's like they get the job done but I don't
[10:52] think of them as like Terminators, you know?
[10:56] Yeah.
[10:58] Yeah.
[10:59] I feel like their strength is sort of like the power of friendship, honestly.
[11:03] That's true.
[11:04] Yeah.
[11:05] No.
[11:06] Thank you, Dan.
[11:07] Yeah.
[11:08] It's its own sort of badness.
[11:09] Yeah.
[11:10] Yeah.
[11:11] So in badness, I'm going to give them a seven, I think.
[11:12] I'm going to give them, I'm going to go sixes across the board.
[11:13] Okay.
[11:14] Give me a roll on lucky dip.
[11:15] Lucky dip.
[11:16] This might be their category.
[11:17] 13.
[11:18] Lucky number 13.
[11:19] Lucky number 13.
[11:20] Lucky number 11.
[11:21] Man, this, I feel like this is a fucking part of like a subplot of one of these movies.
[11:27] How likely are they going to be able to successfully take a niece dress shopping for her first
[11:33] boy-girl thing?
[11:34] Oh, man.
[11:35] I just feel like it would integrate very well into an actual Bad Boys movie, yeah.
[11:38] I mean, like-
[11:39] I mean, they would not do a good job.
[11:41] Well, but here's the thing, there'd be a lot of shenanigans.
[11:45] That's true.
[11:46] They'd end up with the right dress.
[11:47] A lot of shenanigans.
[11:48] But they would end up coming through at the end.
[11:49] That's true.
[11:50] So I'm going to give them a nine for this.
[11:51] I'm going to give them an eight just because there's going to be a lot of broken glass
[11:55] along the way.
[11:56] That's true, yeah.
[11:57] That's true, yeah.
[11:58] That was a good one for these boys.
[12:01] Not so bad, boys.
[12:02] Okay, Dan, give me another roll.
[12:06] Another roll brings us the number nine.
[12:09] Okay, so that, okay.
[12:12] You would know him as the director of Juror Number Two, Dirty Harry himself.
[12:18] You absolutely know him as the director of Juror Number Two.
[12:20] It's received almost no release.
[12:23] Yep, we're talking about Dirty Harry Callahan, played by Clint Eastwood in the Dirty Harry
[12:29] film.
[12:30] This is another one where I feel like we're going to have to separate in some ways, and
[12:32] I have been doing a bad job of this, the politics of the film and the character from the aesthetic
[12:37] and the actions of the character.
[12:39] Also, it's interesting.
[12:41] I mean, it's not like it's a critique or anything, but at least the first Dirty Harry sort of
[12:47] like reckons with the idea of like, oh, maybe a cop shouldn't be doing these things.
[12:52] I mean, he's called Dirty Harry, like he's not called Great Harry.
[12:55] He throws his badge away at the end.
[12:57] You're supposed to feel a little queasy, but then the sequels are like, ah, forget all
[13:00] that.
[13:01] What a great guy.
[13:02] Yeah.
[13:03] But even then, in terms of ratitude, I think he's, I mean, I love Clint Eastwood.
[13:06] Again, I don't agree with him politically, but I think he is a great presence on screen.
[13:10] I love so many of the movies he's made.
[13:13] But I don't know, in terms of ratitude, like it's not like I think of Dirty Harry as like
[13:16] a cool character, you know?
[13:18] Yeah.
[13:19] He's got like, he's got some nice 70s suits.
[13:22] He's got a really long gun.
[13:23] Yeah.
[13:24] It's so long.
[13:25] A long gun.
[13:26] Yeah.
[13:27] So I think I'm going to give him, I'm going to, I've been, this episode, I feel like I'm
[13:31] a little more luxurious with my grading.
[13:35] I'm going to give him a six on this one.
[13:37] No, I'm going to give him a five, actually.
[13:38] I'll give him a five on ratitude.
[13:40] He gets a five on ratitude.
[13:41] Damn.
[13:42] I'm going to, I'm going to stay parsimonious and I'm going to give him a five.
[13:45] Okay.
[13:46] Let's talk about badness.
[13:47] How bad is this dirty police officer?
[13:50] He's a pretty bad dude.
[13:51] He's a pretty bad dude.
[13:52] I mean, he can, he takes down Scorpio, uh, you know, who the, the regular legal system
[13:57] can't even handle this monster.
[13:58] Yeah.
[13:59] It's impossible to stop.
[14:00] I mean, he's, I mean, essentially he remains just a cop, like he is not, he does not ascend
[14:07] to like the level of action movie, uh, wildness that some of these, but like, I think it was
[14:13] a testament to how dirty this Harry is that I'm still going to give him a nine for badness.
[14:17] I think I'm going to give him an eight because yeah, I feel like he's just not at the same
[14:22] level in terms of action as some of the others, but he's so, he has such aplomb when he, and
[14:28] the fact that when he, you know, the, the famous speech, but how many, how many shots
[14:33] did I fire?
[14:34] You know, like that's just him talking a guy into not reaching for his gun.
[14:37] And that's pretty, that's pretty bad-ass pretty, pretty bad-ass.
[14:41] That's verbal action.
[14:42] Verbal fighting.
[14:43] Give me a lucky dip for old dirty Harry.
[14:45] That's a 13 again.
[14:46] Okay.
[14:47] Um, doop, doop, doop, doop, doop, doop.
[14:50] Sure has to adjust in real time as many numbers have been eliminated.
[14:54] Yeah.
[14:55] Ooh.
[14:56] Okay.
[14:57] Actually, I think he's going to have a little trouble with this old lucky dip, uh, on a
[15:00] scale of one to 10, one being very likely to 10 being very unlikely.
[15:08] This is another pre-election one?
[15:10] Yes.
[15:12] How likely is dirty Harry Callahan going to be canceled or metooed?
[15:16] Oh, so likely one.
[15:19] I mean, yeah.
[15:20] Well, very, very likely.
[15:21] Yeah.
[15:22] Very likely.
[15:23] Very likely was one, right?
[15:24] Yes.
[15:25] Oh wait.
[15:26] Unlikely was 10.
[15:27] Because the high scores are, you want them, the stuff that you like, you put at the high
[15:28] school.
[15:29] I was paying more attention to what you were saying Stuart than what you were.
[15:32] Yeah.
[15:33] Yeah.
[15:34] Thank you.
[15:35] So I messed it up.
[15:36] So very unlikely is a one.
[15:37] Oh, very likely is a 10.
[15:38] Oh, then 10.
[15:39] He'll be canceled.
[15:40] I mean, he would go to jail.
[15:41] I'm not supporting the bad behavior.
[15:42] Wait a minute.
[15:43] I'm just going according to Stuart's score.
[15:44] I know.
[15:45] No, wait.
[15:46] I messed it up.
[15:47] Yeah.
[15:48] Previously, the idea was-
[15:49] The idea is that he should not get canceled.
[15:50] Exactly.
[15:51] So that's lower.
[15:52] So he gets a one or a zero, right?
[15:53] Wait, look.
[15:54] Whatever one it is where he gets canceled, that's the one I'm picking.
[15:57] Yeah.
[15:58] Yeah.
[15:59] So that's low.
[16:00] Low.
[16:01] Yeah.
[16:02] So he gets a one.
[16:03] We're both going low.
[16:04] We're going to both give him a one, I think, for this.
[16:05] Okay.
[16:06] We did it.
[16:07] Thank you guys.
[16:08] He would certainly be brought up on charges.
[16:09] Yeah.
[16:10] He'd be reshuffled.
[16:11] He'd be put on desk duty.
[16:12] Yeah.
[16:13] He loses-
[16:14] Get a salary for doing nothing.
[16:15] He's the kind of police officer that people protest about.
[16:17] Yeah.
[16:18] He'd have to move over to true social for his social media needs.
[16:21] Okay, Dan, give me a roll for our next hero.
[16:24] That's a four.
[16:26] Or a, okay, that you would know him as the Shogun's Executioner, formerly Ogami Ito from
[16:33] the Lone Wolf and Cubs series.
[16:35] Dan, have you seen any of these?
[16:36] I have not.
[16:37] This is going to be-
[16:39] These are fun.
[16:40] Trouble for me.
[16:41] Okay.
[16:42] Well, imagine a man who can perform a cut on your neck that creates a whistling sound
[16:46] that is something that swordsmen long to hear.
[16:51] How ironic that they hear it from their own throat.
[16:53] That's right.
[16:54] Ogami Ito, the Shogun's Executioner, the baddest dude in the universe.
[16:58] This is okay.
[16:59] I don't remember if this happens in any of the movies.
[17:00] In the comic, there's a scene where some guys are harassing a woman and to show them how
[17:05] to treat a woman.
[17:06] He has sex with her right in front of them and is not fazed at all by the fact that all
[17:09] these bad dudes are watching and the woman loves it and he's just like, see, that's how
[17:13] you do it.
[17:14] And these guys are like, how is this man able to get a boner with us looking at him?
[17:20] Is this, is Mifune, does he do this in the movies?
[17:23] Who is it?
[17:24] No.
[17:25] No, no.
[17:26] Okay.
[17:27] I don't, actually, I don't remember the actor's name.
[17:28] I can't remember his name either.
[17:29] I'll look it up, but it's not Mifune.
[17:30] Okay.
[17:31] There's other Japanese actors, Dan.
[17:33] I just thought I knew that.
[17:34] There's Takeshi Shimura either, the other Japanese actor you were going to mention.
[17:39] I'm at a, I'm at a disadvantage, but I'm going to say a seven.
[17:43] I'm guessing at a seven.
[17:45] He's pretty rad.
[17:46] He pushes around a baby cart that can be converted into a variety of different weapons and killing
[17:51] tools.
[17:52] Yes.
[17:53] Now that might be baditude, not ratitude, but I'm going to say, it's a, wait a minute.
[17:58] Why am I freaking, well, I'm wasting my time looking up the, the actor's names, but it's
[18:03] the, uh, cause I can't remember off the top of my head, but I am giving him a, uh, nine
[18:08] in terms of ratitude because not only is he a super cool swordsman, he's a good dad.
[18:16] That's and yeah, I feel like, I feel like Elliot of the three of us has a unique perspective
[18:21] on being a dad.
[18:22] Hmm.
[18:23] And how rad it is.
[18:24] Oh, it's a, it's a weird dad.
[18:25] Tomasaburo Wakayama.
[18:26] Thank you.
[18:27] That's who got me into.
[18:28] Uh, Elliot, have you ever given either of your sons the choice between, uh, the sword
[18:33] and walking the demons road of my Fumato or choosing the ball and joining their, uh, ancestors
[18:39] in, uh, the land of Yomi?
[18:41] No, that's not a choice that I've ever given my children to be honest.
[18:45] Oh, got me.
[18:46] So did, but I think the thing is, this is a guy who's able to combine work with parenthood
[18:51] in a way that all of us wish we could.
[18:54] And he's always there for it.
[18:55] He's always there for the cub.
[18:56] Yeah.
[18:57] Yeah.
[18:58] He gets, yeah, he manages to achieve that balance.
[18:59] It's pretty incredible.
[19:00] Dan, uh, Elliot gave him a 10, Dan, you gave him a what for ratitude?
[19:05] I gave him a seven.
[19:07] Okay.
[19:08] Bad attitude.
[19:09] This dude has filled the entire shogunate with, uh, with bodies.
[19:14] I mean, this is, I, the, the, the, the hells are full of his victims.
[19:17] Yeah.
[19:18] And he's again that he, he has a tricked out baby carriage full of weapons that he kills
[19:24] people with.
[19:25] Uh, he's a master swordsman.
[19:27] He kills people.
[19:28] They don't even know they're dead till later.
[19:29] Um, so I'm going to give him a 10 on this one also, man.
[19:32] He's doing great.
[19:33] Okay.
[19:34] You can only guess at the, I can only guess, but the tales I've heard, uh, told make me
[19:39] think that he must receive a 10.
[19:42] Okay.
[19:43] Now give me, let's give me a lucky dip.
[19:44] This might be a challenge for our boy.
[19:46] Yeah.
[19:47] Seven.
[19:48] Okay.
[19:49] Hmm.
[19:50] Ooh, this might be a tough one.
[19:52] It's only due to a language barrier.
[19:54] Um, how likely on a scale of one to 10, can he finish the New York times?
[20:00] Sunday crossword with no hints.
[20:02] Now, I do have to point out,
[20:04] he shouldn't be completing it right now
[20:05] because the New York Tech Union,
[20:08] New York Times Tech Union is currently on strike.
[20:10] Yeah, as of this recording.
[20:11] He should not, he shouldn't cross that picket line.
[20:14] But imagine he did this way back in the day.
[20:18] Yeah, I don't, I mean, like, I don't know canonically,
[20:21] like whether he can speak English.
[20:25] You know, again, this is an English language newspaper.
[20:28] I'm assuming, I'm presuming that the,
[20:30] I don't think that he, I don't remember,
[20:32] certainly not in the movies.
[20:34] Yeah, I'm gonna give him a one for this, unfortunately.
[20:36] Yeah, he's gonna lose some points.
[20:37] I'm also gonna give him a one.
[20:38] He is living at a time when not only
[20:40] would it be hard for him to learn English,
[20:42] but he's living at a time when Japan is effectively
[20:45] cut off from English language nations for the most part.
[20:49] It's during the period before the reopening of Japan,
[20:52] when America basically forced Japan
[20:54] to start letting us trade where we wanted to.
[20:56] So I'm gonna give him a one on this also, yeah.
[20:58] I think he's gonna lack both the language skills
[20:59] and the frame of reference.
[21:01] When it says blank Morales, he's not gonna know.
[21:04] No.
[21:05] He's not gonna know it.
[21:06] It's always Morales.
[21:07] Yeah.
[21:08] Yeah, and it's always acai berries.
[21:12] They love it.
[21:13] Okay, give me another one, Dan.
[21:16] That's a 13 again.
[21:17] 13, okay.
[21:20] Guys, we got another classic here.
[21:22] There have been so many of these fucking movies.
[21:25] That's right.
[21:26] His name is James, James Bond.
[21:28] Oh, yeah, yeah.
[21:30] Stern is not shaken.
[21:34] Played by a couple of actors you might've heard of.
[21:36] Sean Connery, Roger Moore, Daniel Craig.
[21:39] Yeah.
[21:40] Timothy Dalton.
[21:42] Timothy Dalton.
[21:42] Pierce Brosnahan.
[21:44] Pierce Brosnahan.
[21:46] George Rasmussen.
[21:47] The Lazy B.
[21:49] The Lazy B.
[21:50] Wow, well, here's the problem you run into.
[21:53] Like, if this was the 60s,
[21:57] obviously highest marks for radness.
[22:00] You know, the tides, the cultural tides
[22:03] have turned against some of the signifiers of James Bond.
[22:07] Like his dislike of the Beatles, yeah.
[22:09] Yes, he was wrong about the Beatles,
[22:12] and he was wrong about the way he treated
[22:15] most of his female cohorts.
[22:17] Yeah, that's true.
[22:18] Yeah, but he does, he is like kind of the avatar
[22:22] of like, here's a bunch of cool stuff.
[22:24] Like, here's, you're gonna wear a tuxedo,
[22:26] and you're not gonna care if you're a spy
[22:28] and people know your name,
[22:29] and you're gonna drink martinis,
[22:30] and you're gonna have gadgets.
[22:31] Yeah, you're gonna be good at gambling.
[22:33] Constantly cool and collect cool stuff all the time.
[22:35] Cool stuff like gambling.
[22:37] Yeah, you're gonna do the coolest thing there is,
[22:40] back a rat.
[22:41] Back a rat.
[22:41] Back a rat.
[22:42] Back a rat.
[22:43] Back a rat.
[22:44] Back a rat.
[22:45] Back a rat.
[22:46] Back a rat.
[22:47] Back a rat.
[22:47] Back a rat.
[22:48] I mean, all that said, I mean.
[22:50] Yo, have you guys ever,
[22:52] have you ever gone to like a Vegas casino
[22:54] and been like, I wanna go play back a rat.
[22:56] No.
[22:57] I don't know how to play it, otherwise, yeah, sorry.
[22:58] Kill the John Barry theme, boys,
[23:00] I'm playing some back a rat.
[23:03] I mean, if you count the song
[23:04] as part of his general effect,
[23:06] then it goes up a couple notches,
[23:07] because that's such a cool, rad song.
[23:09] Yes.
[23:10] I, yeah, that's the thing.
[23:11] Like, even with the.
[23:13] I do count the song, though.
[23:14] Even with the shit, I still kind of have
[23:16] to give him an eight for this, I think.
[23:18] Oh, see, I'm gonna give him a nine, yeah.
[23:20] If the song is factored in, and just like,
[23:23] I feel even though he has,
[23:24] so much of the older stuff has aged poorly,
[23:27] he has such the ur-text for action star.
[23:30] Like, that's as far back as you can go
[23:33] before it starts to seem kind of like
[23:35] weirdly disconnected from what we think of
[23:38] as an action hero today, yeah.
[23:40] And badness.
[23:41] How bad is James Bond?
[23:43] This is a hard one,
[23:44] because he, like, he's done so much.
[23:46] He's saved the world so many times,
[23:48] and yet, like, I feel like there's a certain
[23:51] lack of total badness to him.
[23:55] I'm also gonna give him an eight for this.
[23:57] It's hard to explain, but I don't feel the total badness.
[23:58] I'm gonna give him an eight on this one, too.
[24:00] I'm also gonna give him an eight on this one.
[24:01] I feel like if you put him in a room
[24:03] with some of these other characters,
[24:05] he would not have much of a chance.
[24:07] But if you put him in a factory,
[24:10] or on a crane, or something like that,
[24:12] with some of these other characters,
[24:13] he would win. Or skiing somewhere.
[24:14] Or skiing, exactly, yeah.
[24:15] Jesus, put him on skis.
[24:17] He's gonna wreck everybody.
[24:18] Yeah.
[24:19] Okay, so give me a lucky dip for old James.
[24:21] For Jimmy.
[24:22] That's a 12.
[24:24] 12, okay.
[24:30] You wanna cross some of these off?
[24:32] I should, yeah.
[24:33] Okay.
[24:34] Oh, he wasn't crossing them out?
[24:35] Now, if James Bond were to appear on a...
[24:40] Yeah.
[24:41] How do I frame this as a...
[24:42] I've been having some challenges framing this.
[24:45] It's so good that he didn't get
[24:46] the giving advice on a date one.
[24:48] That would be a bad category for him, yeah.
[24:50] Also, the getting canceled one.
[24:51] He'd be pretty likely. Oh, for sure, yeah.
[24:53] Okay, if you were to transport the character,
[24:57] James Bond, into a rom-com,
[25:01] on a scale of one being wouldn't work at all,
[25:05] 10 being he would fit in seamlessly,
[25:08] it would be a normal rom-com.
[25:10] James Bond is basically a rom-com character.
[25:12] Where does he fit?
[25:15] I think he still gets pretty high.
[25:16] I mean, you say normal rom-com,
[25:18] I think you might wanna spin it where it's like...
[25:21] Like a 90s rom-com.
[25:22] I mean, this is true of most rom-coms
[25:24] where someone needs to learn a lesson.
[25:27] Maybe he needs to learn to not be so sexist,
[25:31] but he's a dapper man who wears evening wear and is suave.
[25:37] I would give him a seven, I think.
[25:39] Oh, see, I'm gonna give him an eight
[25:40] because I could see it going either way.
[25:41] Either he is the guy who learns a lesson
[25:43] or he is the bad boyfriend
[25:45] who the main character has to win the girl of his dreams from
[25:51] and you understand why she's with him
[25:53] because he's so cool and he's so suave,
[25:55] but you know that she shouldn't be with him
[25:57] because he's sleeping around and also shoots people.
[25:59] Interesting take.
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[33:06] Okay, okay.
[33:07] Give me another roll, Dan.
[33:09] We're getting near the end.
[33:10] That's a four.
[33:11] A four?
[33:13] Yep.
[33:14] Okay.
[33:16] Our next up is we're going to be seeing
[33:19] this gentleman on Flop TV soon.
[33:21] That's right, Conor McCloud.
[33:23] He's an immortal.
[33:24] He's a Highlander.
[33:26] Where's a kilt?
[33:27] Conor McCloud.
[33:29] Okay, I've only seen Highlander.
[33:31] I have not seen Highlander 2, colon, The Quickening yet.
[33:34] Did you see Highlander 3?
[33:36] What was it, The Final Dimension?
[33:38] Something like that?
[33:38] I think so, with Mario Van Peebles.
[33:40] Yeah, I remember seeing that in the theaters.
[33:42] I did, too.
[33:43] I also remember the trailer.
[33:44] Yeah, I remember the trailer where they're like,
[33:46] his name is Kane.
[33:48] Yeah, and he can make a truck turn invisible.
[33:51] Fucking cool as hell.
[33:53] As someone who, you know, my uncle-
[33:58] Oh, that's, wait a minute.
[33:59] Highlander, oh, Highlander 3 was The Sorcerer.
[34:02] And this was, oh no, did it have two different titles?
[34:04] Was that it?
[34:05] Yeah, and then there's, wait a minute.
[34:07] Oh, so it was two different titles.
[34:08] That's what it was, yeah.
[34:09] Oh, thank God.
[34:10] We saw it as Highlander, The Final Dimension.
[34:12] Yep.
[34:14] What's the animated lightning in those movies?
[34:17] Is that part of his powers,
[34:18] or does it just imbue him with something?
[34:20] Or like, it's a long-
[34:21] Well, when he chops somebody's head off
[34:22] and he gets hit with lightning to get strong.
[34:24] Oh, okay.
[34:25] Yeah, I think that's him absorbing their power, right?
[34:28] Yeah.
[34:29] Well, okay, so he's got lightning stuff going on.
[34:31] And I was gonna say,
[34:32] as my uncle would not let us forget growing up,
[34:36] we are of Scottish heritage,
[34:38] so gotta love a Highlander, you know?
[34:43] Wears a kilt around and such.
[34:44] He goes to wrestling matches by himself as an adult.
[34:48] Maybe give him a seven for radness.
[34:51] Okay.
[34:52] All right, I mean-
[34:53] He owns a curiosity shop.
[34:55] The thing is, I love-
[34:56] Is it old?
[34:57] Not old enough.
[34:58] I love Scottish things.
[34:59] Scotland, I think, is maybe my second favorite country
[35:01] in terms of countries I've spent time in.
[35:04] I love curiosity shops,
[35:05] but I'm gonna have to give him like a four.
[35:07] I just don't find him very rad.
[35:10] Oof, okay.
[35:11] Well, I think he was hoping to clean up in that category.
[35:13] Let's talk about badness.
[35:15] How bad is this Highlander?
[35:16] I mean, there can be only one,
[35:18] which seems like that's pretty bad in and of itself.
[35:21] It's pretty bad, but they keep showing up.
[35:24] They do keep showing up.
[35:25] Even though there can be only one,
[35:26] there's quite a few of them, yeah.
[35:28] Yeah, it's lousy with them.
[35:30] I'm also, you know, seven's a cross.
[35:32] Okay, seven's a cross.
[35:33] Elliot.
[35:34] I'll give him a six.
[35:37] Okay.
[35:38] No, you know what?
[35:39] I'll give him a seven.
[35:40] Okay.
[35:41] Jesse Brown is like, I got beaten by a six.
[35:45] Okay, give me a lucky dip roll for this Highlander.
[35:51] We got a loop all the way back around.
[35:53] No, there we are.
[35:56] Oh no, okay.
[35:57] On a scale of one being unlikely,
[36:01] wait, one being very likely to 10 being very unlikely,
[36:07] how likely is Connor McCloud going to vote independent
[36:11] in the United States election?
[36:14] Oh boy.
[36:15] Now, assuming that he is a citizen,
[36:18] because again, he's from Scotland, right?
[36:20] But maybe he became a naturalized citizen at some point.
[36:22] Yes, we're going to assume that.
[36:26] I'm gonna say pretty high, I think,
[36:28] pretty likely that he would vote independent.
[36:30] So that's a low score.
[36:31] I'm getting like a sort of a libertarian vibe off of that.
[36:34] Yeah, me too.
[36:36] I don't know, I'll give him what low is likely,
[36:38] I'll give him a three.
[36:40] Yeah.
[36:40] Yeah, I'm gonna give him a three also.
[36:42] Not great.
[36:44] Okay, give me another roll, Dan.
[36:46] We're getting near the bottom.
[36:47] The roll is a nine.
[36:51] It is a nine.
[36:52] That goes, okay, that's right.
[36:55] This guy has a certain set of skills
[36:57] and those skills, sometimes they ain't pretty.
[37:00] That's right, we have everybody's favorite character,
[37:02] Brian Mills.
[37:04] What?
[37:05] Brian, you don't know Brian Mills?
[37:08] General Mills, right, yeah.
[37:10] Brian Mills from the Taken franchise.
[37:12] Oh, I thought his name was Liam Taken.
[37:15] You know what?
[37:16] It's Brian Mills.
[37:18] I didn't even remember from our aborted earlier text
[37:22] to do this episode.
[37:26] We've been over this.
[37:27] Okay, yeah.
[37:28] So as we, I think we've all agree, we all agree,
[37:30] he would score very high if the category was dadness.
[37:34] Yeah, dadness was high for Brian Mills.
[37:36] Dadness would be a big category for him.
[37:38] But it's not, it's radness.
[37:39] Radness, I think he's gonna be pretty low on this.
[37:42] I mean, I generally like seeing Liam Neeson in movies,
[37:46] but I feel like the whole point of Brian Mills
[37:47] is that he is, you don't suspect
[37:49] that he is going to have this stuff inside of him.
[37:51] He doesn't project as a cool, you know.
[37:53] I feel like he gets an extra point for that speech,
[37:56] his speech about skills.
[37:58] That's pretty cool, but that's not enough.
[37:59] I don't think it's enough to really put him
[38:01] in the heavy end.
[38:02] I'd give him like a three, even with the speech factored in.
[38:05] For intensity and for tallness,
[38:08] I'm gonna give him a five.
[38:10] Tallness, you know, hey, it's one of the most,
[38:13] one of the most sought after attractive features.
[38:15] And realize tallness was one of the things,
[38:17] I guess I'll tell Puck from Alpha Flight
[38:19] that you'll be grading him low, Dan.
[38:22] Oh, yeah.
[38:23] Okay, now badness.
[38:24] How bad is this battler?
[38:25] He's got a specific particular set of skills, you know.
[38:29] Yep, he's pretty bad.
[38:31] You know, and he maintained being bad
[38:34] even as he aged through several sequels.
[38:37] Mm-hmm.
[38:38] And he can start out like such a spring chicken.
[38:40] Even starting out, I feel like Liam Neeson
[38:42] has admitted that he's like shocked
[38:44] that they've been as successful as they were.
[38:46] Yeah.
[38:48] He and Nicolas Cage both, it is a very strange thing
[38:51] for them to suddenly become action stars.
[38:53] Like Nicolas Cage was this strange kind of like
[38:56] experimental actor in many ways,
[38:58] and then was in Con Air and The Rock
[39:00] and all those others, and it's like,
[39:01] oh, no, no, he's a huge action star.
[39:03] And Liam Neeson, similarly, I mean, he was Darkman.
[39:05] But like, you wouldn't know for the rest of his filmography
[39:08] that he would become an action star late in life, yeah.
[39:11] And then be fighting wolves with his bare hands, you know.
[39:13] Yeah.
[39:14] Do you think that Liam Neeson now regrets
[39:16] not being Darkman in the Darkman sequels?
[39:21] You'd have to ask him.
[39:22] It might not come up in his minds that much.
[39:24] I'll text him.
[39:25] I'll send him a text.
[39:26] I just wanna say for badness,
[39:27] I think he suffers from the company
[39:31] we have kept so far in these minis.
[39:33] I'll give him a seven.
[39:35] Okay.
[39:36] Hey, if you lose a daughter, he's gonna find that thing.
[39:39] I'll also give him a seven.
[39:41] I feel like he is, again, he cuts through bad guys
[39:44] like a hot knife through butter.
[39:46] But when you compare him to Conan the Barbarian.
[39:48] It's tough.
[39:49] You know, it's tough.
[39:50] Or The Widow, you know, it's tough.
[39:52] Dan, what do you roll?
[39:53] I assume that this like weird thing
[39:55] is the equivalent of a 20.
[39:56] Yup.
[39:58] Okay, Brian.
[39:59] Man, I think he's gonna be.
[40:00] pretty good at this one on a scale of 1 being unlikely to 10 being very likely how likely
[40:07] is Brian Mills going to give a great wedding speech speeches I feel like he would fucking
[40:14] do that in a taken movie to yeah I think so daughter's wedding he's got that gravitas
[40:19] to you know yeah I think I feel like he is a dad again he is a dad felt dad again that's
[40:25] my favorite movie I'm not gonna give him top marks because I don't think there's gonna
[40:29] be a lot of humor in that speech but in terms of heart like I'm gonna give him a nine oh
[40:33] people are gonna feel it they're gonna have a lump in their throat I'm also gonna give
[40:36] him a nine yeah okay Brian Mills good points okay Dan give me a roll we are down to two
[40:42] okay that's a two perfect you nailed it right on the head she has fought Queens she's fought
[40:48] babies she is Ellen Ripley hero from the information about what kind of babies Oh changes your
[40:58] opinion when I don't say alien in there right Ellen Ripley he is the as the hero we're talking
[41:05] about played by Sigourney Weaver this will also I'll also include the like what Ripley
[41:13] alien hybrid type thing from alien resurrection Ripley it's still I mean it's you know whether
[41:19] that's real still Ripley or not is a question for the philosophers Dan but yeah well Stewart
[41:24] brought up one of my read like look she's introduced as kind of deliberately on rad
[41:31] you know the the idea was you don't know an alien who the hero is gonna be like she was
[41:36] not a big name maybe it's the alien time yeah it could be the alien mean the alien walks
[41:41] away looking pretty good in that yeah probably not in a hole yeah probably pretty sure he's
[41:46] not gonna be the hero so she starts from a place of deliberate on radness but by the
[41:52] end of that movie she's in her underwear by the end of the series she is a hybrid alien
[42:00] who's been rebirthed so overall I think I'm gonna give her seven she's pretty red I'm
[42:06] gonna give her an eight for radness I agree she is not coded as cool necessarily but once
[42:11] again I'm giving her strong woman in a man's world points and also her jumpsuit looks cool
[42:18] I love that 80s style you know that it's 79 but it feels more 80s at times than 70
[42:22] and also like she pulls off the bald head look very well pulls it off great yeah and
[42:27] she and she is this really cool art she's cool okay let's talk about badness how bad
[42:32] is well she might not stack up against some of these other non-stop killing machines but
[42:37] she does fight like the ultimate living weapon and win regularly yes yeah she's she well
[42:44] Dan you say what you're gonna say it sounds like you have a it's a mixed decision I think
[42:49] you know she does die at least once and you know her life is is true you were the one
[42:54] who said that the other one was with the one after she died was her no no I well I'm saying
[43:00] out of like the four times she's encountered an alien she lost once arguably that was a
[43:05] draw that was I would not address she she threw herself into a vat of fire and lava
[43:11] seems like a victory I mean the fact that she's willing to do that though I'll give her a nine
[43:21] I'm gonna give her a nine as well I feel like she more because of her how quickly she learns
[43:26] she is not she is not trained as a soldier as far as we can tell but she picks up fighting
[43:31] with a flamethrower really fast she can control the power loader she has sex with an alien in
[43:36] the fourth one she's willing to jump into a vat of lava like she's it's pretty it's all pretty
[43:41] badass she'll do whatever it takes to get that alien so fucking rocks that's a nine she's one
[43:46] of the great characters in all of action film yeah yeah damn give me a lucky dip roll that's a four
[43:52] okay okay this was good the there were kind of two options here and one of them she was not going to
[44:00] morning her daughter she's bad okay so on a scale of one being unlikely ten being very likely how
[44:10] likely is she going to get approval for a small business loan sorry which one's very likely okay
[44:16] one is unlikely um well she has a long she's a long employment history there's a gap in the
[44:25] middle where she was in cryogenic sleep yeah he does pick up skills quickly as Elliot says
[44:32] yes you know like the the load power loader she's good as that but true but I do think that the fact
[44:38] that her life is entwined with the aliens forever probably gonna harm her so I'm gonna give her a
[44:45] five I'm gonna split the difference now see I'm gonna give her a seven I feel like she dots her
[44:50] eyes and crosses her T's you know she does things by protocol by the book so whatever hoop she's got
[44:54] to jump through to get that loan she'll do it I think there is a high probability that an alien
[44:59] will appear during the loan approval process which might make it more difficult unless the bank
[45:05] manager is super impressed by what he sees when she did when she kills that alien so so I'm gonna
[45:10] get a seven but uh it's always possible that they'll say you're too big a risk yeah yeah okay
[45:16] they will say your credit history has a huge as a huge gap you had you didn't you didn't borrow
[45:21] a credit card for 50 years you know we don't need to roll at all we are down to one final
[45:29] action hero that's right that's Frank Martin who's this Jason save them from the transporter
[45:38] film the transporter he has a simple rule no women no kids yeah I think there's a I mean
[45:47] there's a fairly million other rules actually he is the opposite of lone wolf in that one wolves
[45:53] only only transports kids mm-hmm yeah it's true yeah a fairly high level of radness like he's you
[46:01] know he's got the suit transports things he's gonna rise is really driving his have you seen
[46:07] his amps yeah you know the sheer statham ness of this he really missed out on not getting the
[46:14] Olympics one cuz wasn't he like an Olympic diver I don't know whether he actually ever made it that
[46:20] high but he was definitely like yeah he was a statham or the transporter no the transporter
[46:26] isn't is just a man of many skills yeah one of them is driving a competitive diver I don't know
[46:31] exactly how high so how rad is he though I'm gonna give an eight for red okay I'm gonna give him you
[46:38] know what I'm gonna be a little tougher on him I'm gonna give him a six the transporter has always
[46:41] felt a little secondhand to me okay he is he is trading on the on the style and fumes of other
[46:48] previous action characters yeah but what about badness uh I mean this is another one where it's
[46:58] like he's tough he can definitely like fight his way through a room even though he's slipping on
[47:03] some oil that is like an all-timer action sequence it's a great sequence what about that bit in part
[47:09] two where he flips his car upside down so hook knocks the bomb that's strapped to the bottom of
[47:14] his car off yeah I mean he can do some amazing things with cars just like our fast and furious
[47:19] friend and then there's the third one where he is like transporting that like Russian girl who's
[47:24] been kidnapped and it turns into this weird like sub-dom like kink relationship it's pretty great
[47:30] yeah these are all good points I don't know I guess that doesn't affect his body I feel I don't know
[47:37] I still feel like I influence a little bit by Elliot about how threadbare some of this is even
[47:43] though I do enjoy it okay I'll give it a seven seven for badness okay seven as well he can handle
[47:49] himself he's got a lot of great moves he does cool things I feel even if they don't always
[47:53] cohere into a into a hole for me yeah you know he might actually do okay on this how likely on a
[48:00] scale of one being unlikely ten being very likely how likely is this to transport something how
[48:08] likely is he to comfortably retire as an old man oh I'm maybe of everyone on this list maybe except
[48:16] for John McClane maybe I would give it I would give him a high mark on this I feel like he's
[48:21] gonna do well yeah he's got all these rules and stuff you know he's a suit he's very professional
[48:25] I would give him ready to walk away I feel like he could walk away from this at a moment's notice
[48:29] and he does not his job gets him into trouble once he stops doing that job I feel like he's he
[48:34] could just be he just go be a beekeeper this was yeah this was the category I was worried Ripley
[48:40] was gonna pull because there's no way she's comfortably retiring fighting aliens until the
[48:45] very end yeah yeah they're in a death spiral I just because there's a chance that he just might
[48:51] you know transport one too many things before and get knocked off I'm gonna dock him a point but
[48:57] I'll give him a nine I could see that I could see that but I think as opposed I feel like especially
[49:01] comparison to the other characters he's the he's maybe the most likely yeah yeah the bad boys I
[49:05] could see retiring at some point yeah so someday okay so that has been I'm gonna tally up the
[49:12] scores hey so this is your game master Stuart Wellington chiming in with the final tally for
[49:24] our rankings of action movie heroes official rankings for the flop house now I've tallied up
[49:32] all the scores and we have our top three contestants now coming in third we actually
[49:38] have an even tie that's right James Bond and Indiana Jones both tie at 71 points not bad out
[49:49] of a possible 90 that is pretty good and they both struggled a little bit when it came to the lucky
[49:54] but that is often the case moving on to our second place this is
[50:00] This is a big deal, but before actually I get there. Let's go. Let's take a little pause
[50:04] Let's look at our lowest scoring hero, and I think this is a little bit of a surprise for fans of the flop house
[50:11] That's right Cameron Poe coming in dead last
[50:15] unfortunately his easy
[50:18] Forrest Gump Ian
[50:19] Jesus like charm just did not put him on the scoreboard
[50:24] So let's get back to the real scores, let's talk at number two
[50:28] This is our number two action movie hero, and that's right coming in big
[50:32] We got the Sumerian himself a king by his own hand Conan the barbarian with a whopping
[50:40] 78 points out of 90 that is huge and
[50:45] Honestly, he might have managed to take number one if he hadn't had a weak
[50:50] Radness score from mr.. Dan McCoy Dan McCoy coming in as the spoiler this time
[50:56] That means there can be only one that's right the black mamba
[51:01] Beatrix kiddo
[51:02] Aka the bride she killed bill and she killed our hearts
[51:07] She comes in with 80 points just beating out Conan the barbarian
[51:12] So that's it there you have it folks the official rankings of action movie heroes here at the flop house
[51:20] Back to you guys
[51:22] Whoa that was a shocker, so thank you so much for participating in this
[51:27] This has been the official rankings of 2024 can't wait to revisit them in 2025
[51:33] Okay, so for the flop us. This has been a flop house mini. We are part of the maximum fun podcast Network
[51:39] We are produced by Alexander Smith. He is known as Howell Doughty on the internet. He's a musician. He's a podcast producer
[51:46] He's great for the flop house. I've been Stuart Wellington. I've been Dan McCoy. I'm an Elliot Kaelin can't believe those results
[51:52] Bye
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