The Flop House: Episode 4 - The Number 23

[0:00] In this episode of the Flophouse, we review the number 23, the scariest of all the base 10 integers.

[0:07] And now, the special Halloween remix of the Flophouse theme.

[0:11] When I was working in my laboratory, two skeletons came in, and a mummy was also dancing.

[0:18] Later on, vampires came in, and the vampires had a friend, and it was this creature from the Black Lagoon.

[0:24] And there were other Frankensteins there, and one of them was a serial killer.

[0:29] Is that enough?

[0:35] I guess.

[0:37] Wikipedia has this to say about the number 23.

[0:41] Walter Sparrow, Jim Carrey, is an animal control officer, married to a cake shop owner, Agatha, Virginia Madsen.

[0:48] They have a son, Robin. The film opens with Walter narrating the events of his recent birthday.

[0:54] He begins by describing how he received a call to catch a dog named Ned.

[0:58] Walter is late meeting his wife, and she enters a bookstore where she leafs through the book called The Number 23 by Topsy Kretz.

[1:07] When Walter arrives, Agatha announces that she was going to buy the book for him for his birthday.

[1:12] Walter starts reading the book, finding odd similarities between himself and the main character, a detective known as Fingerling.

[1:20] The book details Fingerling's meeting with the Suicide Blonde, whose obsession with the number 23 drives her to murder her boyfriend and commit suicide.

[1:29] The viewer sees Walter as the main character in this novel, while the real Walter becomes obsessed with the 23 phenomenon.

[1:36] He shows his wife and son his own calculations, written on their walls, in which his name, house, and social security number all add up to 23.

[1:45] Walter visits Dr. Isaac French, Danny Houston, a friend of Agatha's, whom he hopes will be able to explain what's happening.

[1:52] As Walter is drawn ever deeper into Fingerling's story, he begins to suspect Dr. French has romantic designs on Agatha, in parallel with events in the book.

[2:01] His paranoia makes him dream of killing Agatha, after which he drives off in the middle of the night, winding up in the King Edward Hotel, and requests Room 23.

[2:10] The book stops on Chapter 22, with Fingerling on a balcony, trying to decide whether or not to jump after murdering his lover, Fabrizia.

[2:17] Walter sees Ned the Dog again, and follows him to the grave of Laura Tullens, who died on her 23rd birthday, her body still missing.

[2:24] Walter looks into her death, and discovers Laura was sleeping with her professor, like Fabrizia in the book.

[2:29] Walter thinks the professor wrote the book as a confession, and visits him in jail, but he proclaims his innocence.

[2:35] Eventually, Robin and Walter discover that every 23rd word on every 23rd page spells out two messages.

[2:41] Visit Casanova Spark, dig beneath the steps to heaven.

[2:45] The other, I warn you, hell is waiting, sparrow-man.

[2:48] This leads them to Casanova's Park, later that night, where they discover Laura Tullens' skeleton, but when they return with a police officer, the bones have disappeared.

[2:57] Agatha arrives with Dr. French, and with dirty hands, which arouses Walter's suspicions.

[3:03] Walter confronts her about taking the bones, and accuses her of writing the book.

[3:07] She admits to moving the skeleton to protect him, but that in fact, he wrote the book.

[3:12] He returns to the hotel room, where he tears down the wallpaper and finds chapter 23 of the book, identifying himself as the author, and declaring it his confession.

[3:20] Walter then remembers his father killed himself, and his suicide note was pages of things that added up to the number 23.

[3:27] Walter loved Laura Tullens as a college student, but she eventually began sleeping with her professor, and when Walter confronted her, she declared that she never loved him.

[3:35] He went into a rage, stabbing her, then burying her in the park.

[3:39] Walter then went to the hotel room, wrote the book, and jumped off the balcony.

[3:43] He survived with severe injuries and trauma, but ended up in the Institute, where his therapist, another 23 fanatic, published Walter's note as a book.

[3:51] Walter suffered memory loss, forgetting his crime, and upon leaving the Institute, he met his wife, Agatha.

[3:57] Ultimately, Walter turns himself in, freeing the professor, and relieving his conscience.

[4:01] Though entering prison, Walter Sparrow seemed optimistic about himself and his family's future, having taught his son about justice.

[4:08] And now we join the others in the Flophouse.

[4:11] Good evening, everyone, and welcome to the Flophouse.

[4:14] My name is Dan McCoy.

[4:16] I'm Simon Fisher.

[4:17] I'm Stuart Wellington.

[4:18] So tonight we watch The Number 23, and I have to ask you, The Number 23, scariest number ever?

[4:26] What I don't understand is, The Number 23, did they really have to put the number?

[4:32] Like, was 23 already copyrighted?

[4:35] It might have been.

[4:36] It actually might have been.

[4:37] It's supposed to just have like a mathematician.

[4:39] Maybe?

[4:40] Oh, yeah, they didn't want people to confuse it like it's like a prequel movie to the popular series 24?

[4:46] Yes, I think that's the main way.

[4:47] You know, like, my problem with this, the idea of a number as an antagonist, it's like the movie Twister, where they're like,

[4:53] you know what, the villain in this movie is weather.

[4:55] Bad weather.

[4:57] You know what I hate?

[4:58] Jerk tornadoes.

[5:00] Those jerks are real dicks.

[5:02] It's just a safe bet, you know, because you know the audience is automatically going to side against numbers.

[5:07] There's probably not going to be any number sympathizers out there that are like,

[5:10] I think The Number 23 was really misportrayed in that.

[5:13] When Jim Carrey starts going crazy and seeing 23 everywhere.

[5:16] Which happens like 15 minutes into the movie.

[5:19] And not only that, but continues to happen throughout the entire movie.

[5:24] Even by the end, we are all of us still freaked out by The Number 23.

[5:28] And to me, that's like mathemagic.

[5:31] That's literally the lowest form of magic.

[5:36] Other magicians beat up mathemagicians.

[5:39] You know why?

[5:40] Because Square One was a bullshit show.

[5:42] That's a fact. Everyone knows.

[5:44] Even when I was a kid, hey, you were thinking of a number.

[5:48] If you give me another number, and I add 5 to it.

[5:52] I'll make you divide it by 7, and is this your number?

[5:55] Yeah.

[5:56] And you're like, what?

[5:57] Oh my god.

[5:58] If you go through all these hoops that have been dictated to me by you, the magician,

[6:05] you'll come up with a number.

[6:06] That is totally amazing.

[6:08] Well, it's math magic, dude.

[6:10] I don't know if you knew this, but numbers are magic.

[6:12] How?

[6:13] Well, for instance, the number 23 is the murderer's number.

[6:16] You know, the thing, I think we're really missing a key point, guys,

[6:19] and that it's that fucking numbers and math are kind of fucking boring.

[6:24] Well, that's the director and the fucking screenwriter who I have serious issues with.

[6:30] Okay, well, I don't think that we can really talk about the top-notch screenwriting in this movie

[6:36] without talking about what our favorite character's name was from the movie.

[6:39] Stu, favorite character's name from the movie.

[6:42] Oh my god.

[6:43] Was it the Widow Dobkins?

[6:45] That's a pretty good one.

[6:46] No, it was actually Dr. Sirius Leary, Ph.D.

[6:50] Who's named Sirius?

[6:53] A psychiatrist.

[6:54] Sirius Black from the popular Harry Potter series is the only other Sirius I can think of.

[7:00] Another fictional character.

[7:02] Not like, I don't know, my best friend in second grade, Sirius Johnson.

[7:08] Sirius Satellite Johnson.

[7:10] I don't actually interact with that many doctors,

[7:12] but is it like a requirement that they say Dr. Sirius Leary in this case, Dr. Sirius Leary, Ph.D.?

[7:20] It almost seems like they're rubbing it in my face.

[7:23] I'm tempted to go with our hero's name, but the name of the writer of the number 23,

[7:29] not the script for the hit movie, sorry, Jim Carrey.

[7:33] The hit movie 23.

[7:34] The number 23, excuse me.

[7:35] But the novel within the hit movie, the number 23, which is also I think called the number 23.

[7:40] It is. It is called.

[7:41] The author of that book is Top Secrets.

[7:45] Top Secrets, ladies and gentlemen.

[7:47] Top Secrets.

[7:50] I think there's a double meaning there somewhere.

[7:52] My favorite character name was Jim Carrey's character.

[7:56] His son's name was Robin Sparrow.

[7:59] Right.

[8:00] Robin Bird Eagle Sparrow.

[8:03] And he had the same haircut as his son.

[8:05] That was a weird decision.

[8:07] Dan.

[8:09] Way to go, Dan.

[8:11] I think the point is that they had a lot in common, father and son.

[8:16] Sure they did.

[8:17] Including hair.

[8:18] One of the things they shared in common was a love of a specific hairstyle.

[8:22] You know what number occurs more than 23?

[8:26] One.

[8:27] That's a number that occurs a lot.

[8:29] Hey, you better watch out for that number.

[8:30] It's a real spooky number.

[8:31] There's no movie about how creepy it is that the number one is all over the place.

[8:36] Yeah, that is true.

[8:37] I want to talk about something today, guys.

[8:41] And that's the fact that this is the second movie in a row we've watched as a group

[8:46] where there was literally no bad guy.

[8:49] At least Memory had a really scary bad guy.

[8:52] Remember in the old days when movies had antagonists?

[8:57] Okay.

[8:58] And you had your main character and they were beset upon by a person or an organization.

[9:04] Less like a concept or like a really bad thing that was just sort of going on around them.

[9:09] A free-floating phenomenon.

[9:10] Right.

[9:11] Like 23-ism.

[9:12] Sure, yeah.

[9:13] Numerology is terrifying.

[9:15] I just want to throw that out there.

[9:17] Let's be clear.

[9:18] That's why in all of math magic, 23-ology is known as the dark arts, the black arts.

[9:24] Sure.

[9:25] No one should ever fuck around with that scary-ass number magic.

[9:28] You know, I think the thing is like if this was a better movie, we would all be admiring

[9:32] it for the fact like, you know what was really cool about that movie?

[9:35] There was no antagonist.

[9:37] Wasn't that kind of like interesting?

[9:40] The antagonist came from within.

[9:42] That sounds like me, actually.

[9:45] I would say that.

[9:46] The antagonist is within the movie.

[9:48] But it was a failure on storytelling terms.

[9:54] How many levels did the movie fail on, Dan?

[9:57] Well, there was the initial level.

[10:00] The surface level, let's call it.

[10:01] Well, all right.

[10:02] This is one of those movies where there are two stories,

[10:04] basically, what we'll call the primary story.

[10:07] What's going on in, quote, real life,

[10:10] where Jim Carrey is slowly descending into madness

[10:14] with Virginia Madsen, his wife, and his son.

[10:16] There's the second level, which is the stuff that

[10:19] happens in the novel, the number 23, which Jim Carrey is reading.

[10:23] The problem in basically literally every movie

[10:26] I've seen where there's a secondary level of fiction

[10:30] going on.

[10:30] Like, we see a movie, or we see a novel.

[10:33] Where the characters in the movie are watching a movie,

[10:35] and this is the movie.

[10:36] And it's greatly affecting them.

[10:38] The problem is, every time, what they're watching

[10:42] is the biggest piece of shit, like cliche-ridden piece

[10:48] of genre crap.

[10:50] Maybe the problem is, it's hard enough

[10:51] to write a compelling screenplay on one level.

[10:55] So also, I have to be like, oh shit,

[10:57] I now have to write a compelling sub-screenplay.

[10:59] Right, right, the idea that you spend all this time and effort

[11:03] and you're working on this thing that you're really, really

[11:05] proud of, the thing that's really great.

[11:06] And then you go on to write another equally amazing piece

[11:10] that lives within the first piece.

[11:12] It's either that, or maybe it's fear

[11:15] that the stupid little story inside your story

[11:18] will end up being a lot better than the larger story.

[11:21] So you kind of want to dumb it down a little bit.

[11:23] To me, it makes me think of the movie Good Will Hunting.

[11:26] It's any time they try and say somebody's really smart,

[11:29] or somebody's really good at something,

[11:32] or something is really amazing within the book, it's a-

[11:36] Like fucking Studio 60 recently got a lot of shit for like-

[11:41] That's slightly more contemporary.

[11:42] Oh, we've got to set up these guys as really good sketch

[11:45] comedy writers.

[11:45] Oh, but then we've got to show the sketches,

[11:47] and they're basically sub-Saturday Night Live.

[11:50] Arguably not that good of a sketch.

[11:52] Yeah.

[11:52] No, I think your point was that you've

[11:55] created a fictional world in which these characters all

[11:57] really like this book that you, the viewer,

[12:00] are also getting to enjoy.

[12:01] And it is really bad.

[12:02] And there's no reason why any character should enjoy it,

[12:04] because it's bad.

[12:05] And I also think that they feel this compulsion to be like,

[12:08] you know what, we have to downgrade it.

[12:11] I'm writing this really awesome screenplay

[12:14] to indicate to the viewer that within the screenplay, what

[12:18] you're seeing is fiction.

[12:19] I have to make it slightly crappier.

[12:21] I have to make it more symbolic of literature.

[12:24] Like that dame had a shitload of gams on her.

[12:27] Well, I think, I mean, we do have like, whoa, who wrote that?

[12:30] Her gams just wouldn't quit.

[12:31] We do have to talk about the book, the number 23,

[12:35] within the movie a little bit.

[12:37] I think that's kind of like a crux of a lot of my problems.

[12:40] Parallel to talking about the book, the 23,

[12:42] let's also talk about the way, the voice in which Jim Carrey

[12:45] read the book, the 23.

[12:47] Because Jim Carrey has a normal voice, normally,

[12:50] when he talks.

[12:51] He's reading lines, and he's speaking in a normal,

[12:53] his normal Jim Carrey voice.

[12:54] Like he's a regular human being.

[12:56] And Simon, his character is his like, mind voice

[13:01] of him reading the book.

[13:02] You know, like when you read a book yourself,

[13:05] viewers at home or whatever, and you're reading a book,

[13:08] you obviously do it in kind of stupid voice.

[13:10] You know what, Jim Carrey does the same thing

[13:12] in the movie, the number 23.

[13:13] That's something we all have in common.

[13:16] Everyone does that.

[13:18] Like, yeah, and then this weird thing happened.

[13:22] Basically, what happens is Jim Carrey

[13:23] starts reading this book.

[13:25] And he starts finding all these vague parallels,

[13:28] extremely vague parallels, between his life

[13:31] and the life of the book.

[13:33] I think extremely vague is the right word for it.

[13:35] The character in the book is this sort of like sub

[13:38] Raymond Chandler detective character, who

[13:42] Whoa, John Cheever?

[13:44] No, not John Cheever.

[13:46] Did you say John Cheever?

[13:47] No, I don't think I did.

[13:48] He's a character like drinking martinis in New England.

[13:52] We'll play back the recording later, and we'll see.

[13:54] I think he's a John Cheever.

[13:56] This saxophone playing detective.

[13:59] A character who, by the way, at no point in the movie

[14:01] plays the saxophone.

[14:02] Never actually plays the saxophone.

[14:04] He holds the saxophone as if he might play it at any moment.

[14:08] What he does is he leans against a window ledge

[14:11] in a wife theater while the rain is coming down outside,

[14:13] with the saxophone slung loosely across his chest.

[14:16] Yeah.

[14:17] Remember that?

[14:18] Remember?

[14:19] Yeah, we were all taking you back there, too.

[14:20] No, I remember.

[14:21] I remember how we were all hoping that at any moment

[14:23] he might start playing the saxophone, and it never came.

[14:25] Yep.

[14:26] From Beggar's Tree, the Jerry Rafferty song.

[14:28] Yeah, of course.

[14:29] The saxophone riff.

[14:30] That's a really good song.

[14:31] The most famous saxophone riff in all of rock and roll.

[14:33] And the character in the book calls himself Fingerling.

[14:40] I can't divorce from the concept of finger banging somebody.

[14:43] Right, fingering.

[14:44] Like, hi, it's me, Detective Fingering.

[14:47] I'm a man who enjoys fingering.

[14:48] Like, excuse me?

[14:49] Like, what?

[14:50] I'm Detective Fingering.

[14:52] I've maimed myself after the sexual activity I most enjoy.

[14:56] Fingering.

[14:57] I really like a good fingering.

[14:58] The most satisfying act in all of sex.

[15:01] In the entire, in my entire arsenal of love making,

[15:05] finger banging, most effective tool.

[15:07] Now, the thing about it is that this book is actually,

[15:10] turns out to have been written by Jim Carrey,

[15:12] back when he was insane.

[15:13] You're spoiling the whole movie.

[15:15] Spoiler alert.

[15:16] Totally.

[15:17] Holy shit, the twist is real.

[15:18] No, but we have to discuss the twist.

[15:20] I have to, because now that the cat's out of the bag,

[15:23] it's once again, now I don't know

[15:24] if I've mentioned this in previous casts.

[15:28] I really hate movies that have twists in them.

[15:31] I really don't like it.

[15:32] Where it turns out that the main character was

[15:35] the killer the whole time, or the other person was

[15:38] the killer, or the friend that you never knew was the killer.

[15:41] There were ghosts all the time.

[15:44] Everyone was always a ghost.

[15:46] It's what they've done is they've taken,

[15:49] maybe like C plus B minus quality Twilight Zone episodes,

[15:53] and like, hey, let's just have movies all be like that now.

[15:56] Wouldn't that be weird if that happened?

[15:57] Like the twist is that every movie's like that now.

[16:00] That's the twist.

[16:01] All movies have a twist.

[16:03] Let's be clearer though, because I mean,

[16:04] like there are good twist endings.

[16:06] Go, name them.

[16:07] Shoot, name five of them.

[16:09] Right now, don't think about it.

[16:10] Name five movies with a good twist ending.

[16:12] I'm not going to name five of them.

[16:13] No, you'll name five of them, Dan.

[16:15] Name two of them.

[16:15] Memory.

[16:16] OK, that's one.

[16:18] Stewart, good call.

[16:19] Dan, Stew just threw you an alley-oop.

[16:21] I'm going to name two, and they're both Christopher Nolan

[16:23] movies.

[16:24] I like Memento, and I like the twist in The Prestige.

[16:28] And I'll tell you what, in both of those movies,

[16:34] the point is in both of those movies,

[16:36] the twist enriches your view of the rest of the movie.

[16:40] In both of those movies, the twist is semi-surprising.

[16:43] You may or may not have seen it coming, but it is a twist.

[16:46] And then if you look back over the rest of the movie,

[16:48] you're like, oh, I get it.

[16:49] That casts the rest of the movie in a different light.

[16:52] However, that light is still logical.

[16:54] That light makes sense.

[16:55] That's fair.

[16:56] Whereas in this movie, it doesn't make any sense

[16:59] what's going on.

[17:00] At the end, we discover, oh, wait a minute,

[17:02] Jim Carrey was a crazy person who killed a girl,

[17:06] then went to a hotel to write a long suicide note that

[17:10] was then turned into the hit novel, The Number 23, which

[17:14] was published by his psychologist,

[17:17] Sirius Leroy, while he was recovering.

[17:20] Dr. Sirius Leroy, PhD, who then went on

[17:23] to publish his novel in a vanity publishing,

[17:26] ended up at a used bookstore, where

[17:28] his wife, Virginia Madsen, found it, bought it, read it,

[17:31] and then recommended it to Jim Carrey to read.

[17:34] Holy shit, what a nightmare that, in turn.

[17:37] The thing is, I don't know if you understand this,

[17:39] but the only reason that he actually

[17:42] was able to read the book was because he

[17:44] got attacked by a magical dog.

[17:47] You mean the dog, Ned, right?

[17:48] Yeah, the magical bulldog that bit his arm

[17:50] and was kind of like a guardian.

[17:53] I'm just going to.

[17:54] A guardian of the dead, I think.

[17:55] I don't know if you remember this, Stu,

[17:57] but if you add up the numeric where the letters fall,

[18:01] the name Ned adds up to 23.

[18:03] Holy shit.

[18:05] And that's.

[18:06] You think that was intentional?

[18:07] No, I think that was a happy coincidence.

[18:09] First, Jim Carrey gets released from, say, Arkham Asylum.

[18:13] Yes, let's just call it Arkham Asylum for sake of argument.

[18:16] Then, literally, on his way out of the asylum,

[18:18] he bumps into Virginia Madsen, who I think

[18:20] is like Carrey's sort of cake doll.

[18:22] Yeah, it looks like she's carrying a cake.

[18:23] An ice cream cake, I think.

[18:25] They end up getting married.

[18:26] Sure.

[18:27] And then later on.

[18:27] They go on to have a son named Robin.

[18:29] On Jim Carrey's 23rd plus 23rd birthday, maybe.

[18:32] I don't know what it is.

[18:33] I think it was his 32nd birthday, which is, of course,

[18:35] 23 back.

[18:36] She hands him the book that he happened to write.

[18:39] To tell you the truth, we were talking earlier

[18:41] about how in a number of different works of fiction,

[18:44] they have a tendency to throw in an additional work of fiction

[18:46] which seems to capture the main character's mind and soul.

[18:51] And Jim Carrey's character, not only does it

[18:53] take him forever to read the smallest book I've ever seen,

[18:57] it looks like somebody's notebook with the number 23

[19:01] sloppily pasted on it.

[19:02] Virginia Madsen's character reads this book, I guess,

[19:05] in the course of an evening.

[19:06] Sure.

[19:07] And then she hands it to Jim Carrey.

[19:08] On a lazy afternoon, she reads it.

[19:10] Who reads it basically at the pace

[19:13] that the screenplay requires him to have read it.

[19:16] Right.

[19:17] Which is tremendously slow.

[19:19] He can't read it faster than plot developments

[19:22] would dictate.

[19:23] He's reading what's otherwise going to be watching

[19:24] the movie and fast forward.

[19:26] Yeah, what looks like a 200 page book,

[19:28] he reads over the course of, I guess, a week.

[19:31] Even though he's theoretically obsessed with this book.

[19:34] And he's reading it constantly.

[19:36] One would theorize that in addition

[19:38] to reading the book, he supplements it

[19:40] with maybe browsing websites.

[19:42] Let me point out a subtle detail you might have missed.

[19:45] When Virginia Madsen gives him the book 23,

[19:48] he has a very unusual reaction.

[19:50] He's like, books, huh?

[19:52] What's so fucking great about books?

[19:54] Almost as though he's never read a book before.

[19:56] So it's possible that he is, I don't want to say like,

[19:59] functional.

[20:00] really like a literate but maybe it's just a real slow reader

[20:03] he needs a nice softball pitch so when he reads he's like

[20:07] and then

[20:08] one time the number twenty with his fingers criss-crossing out of each word

[20:12] maybe

[20:12] that's very possible

[20:14] i originally brought this point up because this is actually me supporting the movie

[20:18] the number twenty

[20:19] in all these other movies and stuff that have like a work of fiction

[20:22] which captures the main characters interest

[20:25] and this one at least it makes sense to some extent

[20:28] because he wrote the fucking thing so of course he thinks it's cool

[20:32] that's a really good compelling book it makes a lot more sense that if say

[20:40] some actual other human being wrote it

[20:42] just some jerk wrote this fucking stupid ass book

[20:44] at that point that would just make me think he has no taste

[20:48] i can't sympathize with our lead character anymore because clearly his literary taste is for the birds

[20:52] he has poor taste in literature

[20:54] it's for the birds and he reads slowly borderline retarded that's what his dog catcher's license says i bet

[21:00] yeah that's

[21:01] let's take a moment

[21:02] that's a pretty whimsical job huh?

[21:04] dog catcher he's a professional dog catcher

[21:06] that's a whimsical job

[21:07] are there professional dog catchers anymore

[21:10] whose whole job is

[21:12] just to like

[21:13] hang out and like drive around town and be constantly in radio contact with a switchboard

[21:18] to see if there's a stray dog sighting

[21:19] i think to be fair he works for animal control

[21:23] he doesn't have any paperwork to go out any like

[21:25] veterinary work to perform he's exclusively a dog catcher

[21:29] with a tranquilizer dart shotgun

[21:33] yeah it is odd

[21:35] you know going back dan i think we should analyze since there were literally three characters in the movie

[21:41] why don't we analyze the performances of our three leads

[21:43] alright let's do that before we do that

[21:45] you want to start with jim carrey or dan deeser?

[21:47] the number twenty three i guess was presented as a potential jim carrey comeback vehicle

[21:52] which again as we were discussing is really weird

[21:55] yeah it's not like jim carrey has had like this like string of like super plots

[22:00] or like

[22:02] or like oh for christ sake jim carrey what did he make a movie in like nineteen ninety two

[22:06] who's heard of that douchebag ever?

[22:08] he made that fun with dick and jane which like

[22:11] you very recently yeah people didn't see it but you know recent film

[22:15] major theatrical release he made eternal songs straight out of the spotless mind

[22:19] which was critically received

[22:21] critically acclaimed i thought that he did a good job in what was a really good movie

[22:25] in any case the point being here that

[22:27] this is not a la like

[22:29] uh... john travolta and pulp fiction

[22:31] where you're like holy shit this guy hasn't been in movies in a really long time and now he's in this very unusual different kind of role

[22:36] but the thing is with this movie

[22:38] i don't know if i was just the movie he made this year like it was this year's movie

[22:41] and last year he made a different movie and the year before that a different movie

[22:44] however saying that uh...

[22:45] if i was going to cast a movie

[22:48] about a guy's

[22:49] slow descent into madness

[22:52] like a potential time bomb of a killer

[22:55] like someone really tightly wound

[22:57] i would not pick jim carrey

[22:59] however if you did pick jim carrey

[23:01] would you shoot a lot of weird erotic sexual scenes

[23:04] that feature jim carrey

[23:06] for a sex appeal i would and i would have him

[23:08] cradle a saxophone

[23:10] like any god damn second i'll start blowing on this fucker

[23:15] uh... like a year or two ago christian bale was offered

[23:19] the machinist and uh... the number twenty three and he's like

[23:24] well fuck the number twenty three and he managed to like hand it off

[23:28] and then jim carrey just happened to walk by the trash can

[23:32] and he's like number twenty three what's this all about and he's like

[23:34] holy shit i wrote this one day

[23:36] oh my god this is the screenplay i wrote all those years ago

[23:39] when i was crazy twenty three years ago

[23:46] now uh... virginia manson

[23:49] i gotta admit

[23:50] i think she's kinda hot

[23:53] her presence in this movie was almost like

[23:55] like a not presence like a cardboard stand up

[23:59] like someone who was there to deliver important lines

[24:03] oh yeah holy shit

[24:04] well do we want to talk about it yet or do we want to save it till later

[24:08] the really good line the best line in the movie

[24:11] no way there's no way

[24:13] i wonder if she tells jim carrey to kill her in front of all of his beautiful twenty threes

[24:18] so there's a twenty three's the whole god damn movie

[24:20] and jim carrey's freaking out like

[24:21] ah i just discovered i was a murderer i murdered someone i can't believe it i don't even know who i am anymore

[24:26] and she's like you're not a murderer you're not a murderer you're my husband

[24:29] i know you and he's like no you don't know me

[24:31] and she's like well then kill me right now and he's like no i can't he's like kill me right now

[24:35] in front of all of these beautiful twenty threes

[24:40] and dan laughed just like that because it was a really good line

[24:44] it was

[24:45] you know what someone wrote that line

[24:47] sure

[24:48] someone was sitting there in front of an old timey ass typewriter

[24:50] and they were like

[24:51] he wrote that line

[24:52] oh yeah

[24:53] he sat back took a sip of his martini

[24:56] lit another cigar

[24:58] he said

[24:59] that's money in the bank

[25:02] he's like this shit is gold

[25:04] solid movie gold

[25:06] he called up his broker and he's like

[25:08] i just put it all on number 23

[25:10] wait wait wait wait

[25:12] his broker or like a roulette deal

[25:17] 23 is a publicly traded number

[25:19] the publicly traded account 23

[25:21] 23

[25:22] well the thing is he risked it all because he realized so much money was coming in

[25:26] sure

[25:27] even though to put it all on 23 is obviously no risk

[25:29] um i have a new system for when i go gambling

[25:31] huh

[25:32] involves 23

[25:33] i was hoping for a 23 somehow

[25:35] now that you've revealed your secret

[25:38] everyone's going to cash in and gambling will disappear

[25:40] it's a phenomenon

[25:42] basically

[25:43] virginia madsen could have been played by anyone who was like

[25:45] this role is called wife

[25:47] right

[25:48] your job is to read the important plot lines

[25:51] i think one of the weirdest things about this movie

[25:53] focusing on the wife

[25:55] where for literally about five minutes

[25:57] the audience kind of thinks

[25:59] that the wife is the killer

[26:01] for like five minutes maybe

[26:03] sure

[26:04] and then they're like

[26:05] actually that's just bullshit

[26:06] jim carrey was the killer

[26:07] and they even went so far as to have like weird flashback moments

[26:11] where she was like

[26:12] this book could have been written by a woman

[26:14] woman

[26:15] where it's like he keeps saying like her face like

[26:17] this book was written by a woman

[26:19] the number 23 is my favorite number

[26:20] i'm the killer

[26:21] this book was written by a woman

[26:23] the number 23 is my favorite number

[26:24] i was the killer

[26:25] someday i'd like to write a book

[26:27] to totally mess with somebody's mind

[26:29] mind

[26:30] mind

[26:31] well remember though the first twist

[26:33] was that

[26:34] at first you're watching a movie that's like

[26:36] jim carrey's reading this weird book

[26:38] that's making him want to kill his wife

[26:40] okay

[26:41] wait a minute

[26:42] it actually doesn't make me want to do that

[26:44] in fact it just makes me want to figure out

[26:46] who wrote this book

[26:47] wait a minute

[26:48] this book was written about someone who was really murdered

[26:50] who was the murderer

[26:51] was it my wife

[26:52] no

[26:53] i was the murderer

[26:54] but i'm not actually a murderer

[26:55] now the best part is that

[26:57] that first part

[26:58] the whole descent into madness

[26:59] because we keep talking about descent into madness

[27:00] but that

[27:01] that is literally only like the first

[27:03] i don't know what

[27:04] like 35 minutes of the movie

[27:05] and then it becomes a different movie

[27:07] now

[27:08] was virginia madison topless in the movie

[27:10] who was topless in this movie

[27:12] i think it was a body double

[27:13] i think it was a body double as well

[27:14] because uh

[27:15] i think the girl

[27:16] i think it was the girl that he eventually killed

[27:18] i ask this because

[27:19] we have to make it clear

[27:20] that we watched the unrated version

[27:22] we did

[27:23] we did not watch the theatrical release

[27:25] there were two options on the dvd

[27:27] and we opted to watch the unrated version

[27:29] and i think we made the wise decision

[27:30] because this movie had a lot more

[27:32] erotica in it

[27:33] than i would have imagined it would have

[27:34] there was a lot of jim carrey's ass

[27:36] a lot of his ass

[27:37] like a lot of scenes

[27:38] a lot of

[27:39] whoa whoa

[27:40] there's a lot of god damn movie sex scenes

[27:42] where

[27:43] um

[27:44] the woman is

[27:45] on her back

[27:46] she's still wearing her bra

[27:47] the man is sort of like

[27:48] like undulating

[27:49] like waves

[27:50] and you can see his ass

[27:51] the whole time

[27:52] um

[27:53] and it's jim carrey

[27:54] simon

[27:55] that's called

[27:56] proper lovemaking

[27:57] i think you and i are gonna

[27:58] wait wait

[27:59] i think

[28:00] i think i got a podcast

[28:01] wait wait a minute

[28:02] you're

[28:04] supposed to take the bra off

[28:07] oh shit

[28:08] our third major character

[28:09] who i want to talk about

[28:10] a while back

[28:11] yeah this was the

[28:12] this was the one that

[28:13] danny houston

[28:14] who i would know

[28:15] from what else

[28:16] he was

[28:17] the proposition

[28:18] and the proposition

[28:19] that's true

[28:20] he's in

[28:21] um

[28:22] a movie called silver city

[28:23] john sales movie

[28:24] soupy sales

[28:25] soupy

[28:26] he's in the soupy sales story

[28:28] so john houston

[28:30] uh

[28:31] i guess

[28:32] danny houston

[28:33] i've sung i guess

[28:34] yeah

[28:35] um

[28:36] i have a

[28:37] i always like

[28:38] seeing danny houston movies

[28:39] and i liked him in this movie

[28:40] i thought he was

[28:41] probably the best

[28:42] character in this movie

[28:43] in terms of like

[28:44] he had

[28:45] he had that

[28:46] danny houston quality

[28:47] of being like

[28:48] oddly creepy

[28:49] like

[28:50] is this guy

[28:51] the murderer

[28:52] was it when it was like

[28:53] in the story

[28:54] the number 23

[28:55] where he had a goatee

[28:56] and his name was like

[28:57] dr mary's phoenix

[28:58] yeah it was

[28:59] dr phoenix

[29:00] their god damn

[29:01] movie names

[29:02] um steve quick

[29:03] give me a movie name

[29:04] make up a movie name

[29:05] right now

[29:06] laura tollens

[29:07] um

[29:08] okay um

[29:09] chet granite

[29:10] dan give me one

[29:11] dr inferno fireburn

[29:12] that's a little extreme

[29:13] but it's true

[29:14] keep going

[29:15] yeah

[29:16] that was

[29:17] it's all about rainstorms

[29:18] no okay

[29:19] steve quick

[29:20] pass it to steve

[29:21] hot potato

[29:22] steve what do you got

[29:23] hot potato

[29:24] movie name

[29:25] um

[29:26] i

[29:27] walter sparrow

[29:28] uh

[29:29] jonathan shadow

[29:30] um

[29:31] um

[29:32] nicholas steelwall

[29:33] see these are god damn

[29:34] movie names

[29:35] meat man

[29:36] cruelson

[29:37] yeah

[29:38] no you're going too obvious

[29:39] every time

[29:40] like

[29:41] this is

[29:42] bad guy

[29:43] the guy you want to hate

[29:44] but these

[29:45] jerk monster

[29:46] movie names

[29:47] god damn it

[29:48] they're not names

[29:49] that people have

[29:50] in real life

[29:51] they're names

[29:52] that script writers

[29:53] make up

[29:54] because they're like

[29:55] uh

[29:56] po po po po

[29:57] looking around the room

[29:58] um

[29:59] needing to

[30:00] it's character couch wall um...

[30:03] table podcast um...

[30:06] beer can cowboy boots

[30:09] lucky fuckers are just making up bullshit

[30:12] god damn it

[30:12] why don't you just look through the phone book

[30:14] or think of friends names

[30:16] friends that i'm sure enjoy having their name appear in a movie

[30:19] well the other thing is when you're working on a production of the scale that i'm sure

[30:23] the number twenty three was

[30:25] you should take your net and take the screenplay with the list of names and go up to

[30:29] one of the many people involved

[30:31] possibly somebody like craft services or like a grip sure to be like

[30:36] the guy who brings the apple boxes have you ever heard of somebody with the last

[30:39] name dodgins and they'll be like

[30:42] no because that sounds like a bullshit made up name like oh okay

[30:46] x let me just x that out uh... what about

[30:49] the last name

[30:50] tollens like no absolutely not

[30:53] what about if i call this character

[30:55] um...

[30:55] toliver st

[30:57] claire

[30:58] like that's not a real nation in the bed is like is the of course

[31:03] uh... there was more to talk about the movement actually was

[31:06] the movie itself

[31:07] was a twenty seven

[31:09] a trim thirty two minutes

[31:11] it was a thirty two minutes and twenty three stories thirty two is

[31:15] yet three

[31:16] mary's is scared of you know what i thought i was

[31:18] you know what i was pissed me off about that movie

[31:20] it'd be one thing if there actually was a number twenty three everywhere

[31:23] that would be a kind of cool and spooky

[31:24] but a lot of times it was thirty two

[31:26] it's like that's what we've ever thought of the evidence that's what the

[31:29] twenty three like that over this is the numbers are in it

[31:32] they really worked hard like you were saying that's what they really like it

[31:37] well my god there

[31:38] adams and everything but everything

[31:44] i still don't understand at what point

[31:47] jim carrey's character assumed that because number twenty three was involved

[31:52] somehow in life

[31:55] like all white was made up of twenty three periods

[31:58] why there was a bad thing

[32:00] that like you know that he generally uses like what they'd like a system of

[32:04] tens which are

[32:05] you know we got ten twenty thirty that kind of bullshit like

[32:09] yet was as soon as i figure that out

[32:11] uh... you've lost your mind i literally can't enjoy life

[32:15] uh... the sun is a little bit darker

[32:17] you know what i was pissed me off about this movie

[32:19] the whole god damn thing that the whole god damn twist all came down to the fact

[32:23] that he fucking had amnesia

[32:25] yeah that's true that's bullshit

[32:27] that's a god damn twist movie bullshit

[32:30] you could make two movies

[32:31] there are two movies with good twists

[32:34] there might be in the entire canon of films

[32:37] perhaps eight others

[32:39] perhaps

[32:39] in all movies there have ever been

[32:41] and yet they persist

[32:43] they fucking persist in taking what is just ostensibly like a kind of action

[32:46] thriller

[32:47] like oh man

[32:49] what if someone did go crazy what if this husband

[32:51] went crazy

[32:52] and what if there was also a twist in the end wouldn't that be good

[32:56] like no just oh god damn it

[32:59] i like high tension and there's a twist in high tension

[33:01] yeah well i didn't care for high tension

[33:03] yeah but i mean like i liked high tension too but the twist in high tension you can only take on the most

[33:08] metaphorical level

[33:09] well i didn't like the twist but i liked the fact that there was a bunch of gore and shit

[33:13] alright and there was at least one female masturbation scene

[33:18] we're talking about twists

[33:20] you can't hold up high tension

[33:22] as an exemplar of a good twist

[33:24] of how good it was because of the gore in it

[33:26] because like literally the problem with high tension is

[33:29] there's a non-existent truck following them

[33:32] the entire time

[33:34] it doesn't work as a twist ending

[33:36] i see the shock in your face

[33:38] he's remembering like wait a minute

[33:40] wait a minute that twist doesn't make any sense

[33:42] anyway

[33:44] let's wrap this segment up

[33:46] let's review high tension

[33:48] let's wrap this segment up

[33:50] wait which segment was this

[33:52] oh this is the main segment the body

[33:54] the actual body of the cast

[33:56] this was the reason

[33:58] the podcast existed

[34:00] this is final judgment

[34:02] and i've got some special halloween month

[34:04] categories

[34:06] i like this

[34:08] guys was this movie a total

[34:10] frightmare

[34:12] you're a dick by the way

[34:14] was it scarifyingly

[34:16] funny

[34:18] a little bit less dickish but still sort of your dick

[34:20] or

[34:22] was it snorifying

[34:24] that's actually really good

[34:26] i like that one

[34:28] that's kind of like my snooze factory

[34:30] i think this movie

[34:32] you know what i'm going to break

[34:34] my

[34:36] streak i've been having here

[34:38] and i'll say the second one kind of i guess

[34:40] i kind of liked it alright i guess

[34:42] i mean it was stupid but you know what

[34:44] it was watchable it at least wasn't like

[34:46] it was okay i guess

[34:48] yeah i don't know i'm a little up in the air guys

[34:50] on one hand

[34:52] it was really stupid

[34:54] that's true

[34:56] i don't want to give the impression it wasn't stupid

[34:58] no i didn't like it at all dude

[35:00] what was the worst one

[35:02] snorifying

[35:04] i think it was totally snorifying dude

[35:06] it wasn't really scary there was no blood

[35:08] i'm going to go with simon

[35:10] i'm going to say it's scarifyingly funny

[35:12] you know like joel schumacher

[35:14] not a good director

[35:16] i'm going to go out on a limb

[35:18] guys

[35:20] you know what we've said a lot tonight but joel schumacher

[35:22] not a skilled director

[35:24] not a good director however

[35:26] competent we didn't just sit

[35:28] through memory

[35:30] well right it was short no that's fair

[35:32] it kept moving at a good clip

[35:34] just the idea the very idea that we

[35:36] were that he had the audacity to ask

[35:38] us to be scared of a number

[35:40] you couldn't respect the bulls

[35:42] i enjoyed it

[35:44] so basically what you're saying is joel schumacher

[35:46] you're i mean he's not going to be breaking

[35:48] any home run records he's the guy you

[35:50] put up in the batting lineup when you needed

[35:52] somebody on the first base

[35:54] you need to get a single

[35:56] you need to get a really good bunt

[35:58] did he make mothman chronicles

[36:00] no i don't think he did

[36:02] it feels like a joel schumacher though doesn't it

[36:04] yeah

[36:06] yeah it did but again

[36:08] that was another that was scarifyingly funny

[36:10] that's really one of those movies where you're watching

[36:12] you're like yeah this movie kind of blows but

[36:14] i don't know i guess like i'm not mad

[36:16] that i'm watching it like i don't want to

[36:18] punch the dvd

[36:20] oh

[36:22] let's watch mothman chronicles

[36:24] let's do that

[36:26] after we're done recording this

[36:28] that'll be fun

[36:30] that'll be a nice way to kill an evening

[36:32] oh

[36:34] somebody start popping some fucking pop tarts

[36:36] some bread and butters

[36:38] well let's turn away from things that we hate

[36:40] sure let's talk about good stuff

[36:42] i know i'm springing this on you guys a little bit

[36:44] but um normally when we talk about

[36:46] things we like you know it's things we've

[36:48] seen recently

[36:50] because this is our special october like

[36:52] sort of halloween month

[36:54] i like where this is going

[36:56] i'm gonna break the thing i'm gonna say

[36:58] is there some overlooked horror

[37:00] movie that you would like

[37:02] to recommend to people

[37:04] wanna go first or

[37:06] i think stew

[37:08] what do you got

[37:10] wait this is supposed to be something i like and not something i hate

[37:12] yeah this is a horror movie that you've seen in your life

[37:14] that you think is really cool

[37:16] and you think most people might not know about

[37:18] this is my little moment to

[37:20] talk about a movie called night of the demons

[37:22] yeah i knew it

[37:24] it's hands down my

[37:26] favorite halloween movie of all time

[37:28] you got demons

[37:30] you got a bunch of nudity

[37:32] you got lena quigley

[37:34] you got the weird opening

[37:36] where the old guy is like god damn kids

[37:38] and then he holds up an apple and a razor blade

[37:40] and then at the end of the movie

[37:42] he accidentally gets killed by a

[37:44] razor blade apple pie

[37:46] it's just a solidly well made

[37:48] movie so you should watch it right now

[37:50] right now

[37:52] i'm sorry i feel very strongly

[37:54] about this i bullshit a lot

[37:56] i'm kind of like a silly guy

[37:58] but in all seriousness

[38:00] fair enough daniel

[38:02] i would like to recommend brain damage

[38:04] this is 1988

[38:06] frank hinlader

[38:08] the director who did this directed

[38:10] basket case which is much better known

[38:12] i guess did frankenhooker

[38:14] i'm not familiar with that one

[38:16] i would recommend brain damage get the uncut

[38:18] version the unrated version

[38:20] is brain damage the one that has bill paxton and bill pullman in it

[38:22] no or is that brain something

[38:24] it's something brain right

[38:26] it is something brain

[38:28] the brain masters

[38:30] that is the legendary teaming

[38:32] of the paxton and pullman

[38:34] guys who for a long time i thought were the same

[38:36] guy but no brain damage

[38:38] is about the worm

[38:40] named almer

[38:42] who basically

[38:44] injects this psychotropic

[38:46] sort of substance into

[38:48] this guy's head and you know

[38:50] like so many horror movies it's sort of

[38:52] like an allegory for other things and this movie

[38:54] is an allegory for addiction

[38:56] well we're all addicted to drug

[38:58] this drug worm

[39:00] basically makes this guy kill

[39:02] people and

[39:04] the 80s were a golden age for horror

[39:06] and it's got this weird like

[39:08] it's kind of like if repo man

[39:10] was a horror movie now this is actually

[39:12] funny it's funny that this is the

[39:14] question for the show we talked

[39:16] a lot about how well stew did

[39:18] about how stupid it is in movies

[39:20] when they have like a story

[39:22] or another movie

[39:24] or a book in the movie that all the

[39:26] writers talk about either being really good or really scary

[39:28] one of my favorite horror movies

[39:30] is john carpenters in the mouth of

[39:32] madness i really like that

[39:34] movie for reasons that have never been

[39:36] clear to me like i watch it i know

[39:38] i realize that and that's why

[39:40] like i don't bring it up that often

[39:42] because i know it's crazy and i watch

[39:44] it and i can't point to what it is about

[39:46] it that i like sam neill

[39:48] that's part of it sure i like

[39:50] sam neill i think it also has to do with

[39:52] there's a bunch of scenes in

[39:54] asylum and that's always scary i don't

[39:56] know there's just something about like i was

[39:58] you always get little goose pimples

[40:00] I like John Carpenter. It's not my favorite John Carpenter movie, but it's one of my favorites.

[40:05] Memoirs of an Invisible Man is your favorite?

[40:07] Prince of Darkness.

[40:09] Prince of Darkness. I actually kind of like Prince of Darkness.

[40:11] I think Prince of Darkness is an overlooked John Carpenter movie.

[40:14] I said kind. I didn't say I really liked it.

[40:17] Not like it's Halloween or something.

[40:20] Ghost of Mars is a bad...

[40:22] Shut your mouth.

[40:23] No, no. Whoa, whoa, whoa, Dan.

[40:25] John Carpenter's Halloween is literally one of the shittiest movies.

[40:27] And it's so... It's been fucking canonized and it's bullshit.

[40:31] You can talk, but this part is...

[40:33] No, you will not edit this out, you son of a bitch.

[40:35] No, no. No, you will not edit this out.

[40:37] At the very least because the joke about editing out is too funny.

[40:40] Don't edit it out. Leave it in.

[40:42] I think you're really selling this joke as being significantly funny.

[40:46] No, it's really good. Trust me. It'll play a lot better than it sounds to you.

[40:50] It'll play.

[40:51] It plays.

[40:52] So, yeah. The next one is what? What are we talking about?

[40:56] Well, uh...

[40:57] Hey, are any fucking new Saws out on DVD?

[40:59] Let's watch a goddamn Saw movie. How about that?

[41:02] Saw 3?

[41:03] Yeah, fuck yeah. Let's watch Saw 3.

[41:04] No, no, no, no, no. Dan, I argue that we shouldn't watch Saw 3.

[41:06] Why not?

[41:07] Because it might be pretty good.

[41:08] Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute.

[41:10] I didn't say pretty good. I said it might be too competent for this.

[41:14] Well, we just watched a Joel Schumacher film. That's competent.

[41:17] All right, so tune in next time when we may be watching

[41:20] Xeno Evil Primeval The Grudge 2 and more Saw 3.

[41:24] Wait, you said the movie about the fucking alligator, right?

[41:26] That was on there, right?

[41:27] Yeah.

[41:28] Okay, good.

[41:29] That had Orlando Jones in it.

[41:30] I like to point out that Orlando Jones and Juergen Prochnow are in...

[41:34] Dude, he was in it in The Model Madness.

[41:36] He was.

[41:37] I know.

[41:38] He was also Duke Leto of Trades.

[41:40] Wasn't he also Viggo from Ghostbusters 2?

[41:43] No.

[41:44] No.

[41:45] Who was that guy?

[41:46] But he was the guy...

[41:47] Juergen Prochnow's dad?

[41:48] But Juergen Prochnow was the guy they were trying to get released in Air Force One.

[41:53] Yes.

[41:54] Wait, maybe I don't know who Juergen Prochnow is.

[41:56] You don't.

[41:57] I don't think I do. It's very possible.

[41:59] Wait, would you rather see The Grudge 2, Saw 3, or Xeno Evil?

[42:04] I kind of want to see Saw 3.

[42:05] Saw 3, probably.

[42:06] All right, two votes for Saw 3. Two beats one.

[42:09] So, we'll watch Saw 3.

[42:11] Awesome!

[42:12] Before we sign off, though, I've been forgetting this for the last few podcasts.

[42:17] For all the listeners out there who have not done so,

[42:20] visit theflophousepodcast.blogspot.com

[42:24] Oh, yeah.

[42:25] For show notes and all things Flophouse.

[42:27] Check out blogspot.internet.com

[42:29] Backslash the podcast, jerks.

[42:32] Theflophousepodcast.blogspot.com

[42:35] If you like this show and have a little time, while you're there, click on the links.

[42:39] You can vote for us at Podcast Alley or write a nice review in iTunes.

[42:43] You should also tell a lot of people you know about this.

[42:46] Sure.

[42:47] And play it for them.

[42:49] Well, it wasn't our finest work.

[42:51] Jerk.

[42:52] And you can send us an e-mail at theflophousepodcast at gmail.com

[42:57] and we may respond on the air.

[42:59] Yeah, wouldn't that be weird? What a great idea.

[43:02] Wouldn't that be delightful?

[43:03] Wait, wait, wait.

[43:04] Are you saying theflophousepodcast at gmail wasn't already taken?

[43:09] I'm saying that theflophouse at gmail was taken.

[43:12] And thus theflophousepodcast at gmail.com

[43:16] was not taken.

[43:17] Is our official address.

[43:20] Thanks for checking into The Flop House tonight.

[43:22] I'm Dan McCoy.

[43:24] I'm Stuart Wellington.

[43:25] And I'm Simon Fisher.

[43:26] Good night.

[43:29] This is only funny to you, goddammit.

[43:32] This is the vanity joke of the entire project.

[43:36] Dan's favorite joke.

[43:40] The joke that's not that funny.

[43:43] Come on, let's go.

[43:44] He's going crazy.

[43:45] It's so funny to him.

[43:46] He can't...

[43:47] Look at him.

[43:48] Stuart, look at Dan.

[43:49] Dan thinks this joke is that funny.

[43:51] He's not even laughing.

[43:52] He's just making a weird little noise.

[43:54] Because he's laughing too much.

[43:55] It's like when you start laughing and it's so funny that you can't even actually laugh anymore.

[43:59] You're just like...

[44:03] Alright, let's settle down.

The Flop House: Episode 4 - The Number 23

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