main Episode #6 Dec 7, 2007 00:39:12
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Dan McCoy
[0:00] In this episode of The Flophouse, we discuss Mr. Brooks, the horrifying true-life tale of comedian Albert Brooks' serial-killing adventures.
[0:09] What do you mean I can't say that?
[0:11] Slander!
[0:30] And now for a partial synopsis of Mr. Brooks, courtesy of Wikipedia.
[0:41] Earl Brooks, Kevin Costner, is an upstanding business owner and family man.
[0:46] But in his secret life, Earl is a serial killer, hounded by his gleefully sadistic alter-ego, Marshall, William Hurt.
[0:52] While he has refrained from killing for the last two years, Brooks feels the urge rising once again and murders a couple in their home.
[0:59] Despite killing them while their curtains are open, Earl follows his meticulous modus operandi, destroying all clothing and cleaning up the crime scene.
[1:07] The next day, Earl attends his weekly meeting of Alcoholics Anonymous, where he vaguely reveals his addiction without elaborating on its nature.
[1:14] Soon afterwards, Earl's daughter Jane returns home, having abruptly dropped out of Stanford.
[1:19] When pressed on her motives, Jane reveals that she's pregnant, but Earl fears his daughter's hiding a much worse secret.
[1:25] Even more worrisome is the appearance of Mr. Smith, Dane Cook, a peeping Tom who photographed Earl murdering the couple.
[1:32] Fully aware of Earl's thumbprint killer alter-ego, Smith demands to accompany Earl on his next murder.
[1:38] As they troll for a victim, he becomes frustrated with Earl's meticulous preparations,
[1:43] and over the involvement of Portland detective Tracy Atwood, Demi Moore, chief investigator of the thumbprint killer case,
[1:49] who hounds Smith, suspecting he's hiding something.
[1:53] Tracy is distracted by personal problems, including a messy divorce from her sleazy ex-husband,
[1:57] and a violent serial killer that she put away, who has escaped to kill her because of it.
[2:02] One day, Earl finds detectives outside his house, only to realize they're interested in speaking with his daughter,
[2:08] who left school following the murder of a student with a hatchet.
[2:11] Jane pleads innocence, but Earl realizes that his daughter may be afflicted with the same addiction that he has.
[2:16] To deflect suspicion, he travels to her college campus and replicates the hatchet murder,
[2:21] making it appear that the murders are the work of a serial killer.
[2:24] At the same time, Earl and Marshall form a plan to address Mr. Smith's blackmail scheme.
[2:29] Earl re-evaluates his own life and decides that the best course of action for his family and friends
[2:34] is that he be murdered, a decision that infuriates Marshall.
[2:37] The plan involves taking Mr. Smith out on a promised thrill killing,
[2:41] which would give Smith the confidence to kill Earl and tie up loose ends.
[2:45] Is Mr. Brooks successful in his final plot?
[2:48] Let's join the others in the Flophouse.
Stuart Wellington
[2:50] Hello everyone, and welcome again to the Flophouse.
Dan McCoy
[2:54] Yeah.
[2:55] I'm Dan McCoy.
[2:56] I'm Stuart Wellington.
[2:57] I'm Jeanette Lair.
[2:59] That's right. We've got one of our rotating guest hosts.
[3:03] This is like when Roger Ebert got the jaw cancer,
[3:08] and he had to have other people fill in for him.
S3
[3:10] Boy, I thought I was a permanent member.
[3:12] Well, we're trying around.
[3:15] I was going to get paid.
Dan McCoy
[3:15] Yeah, I'm a really good liar.
[3:17] A lot like Mr. Brooks.
[3:19] Also, Simon doesn't have jaw cancer.
[3:21] I want to make that clear, too.
[3:22] So, we did watch Mr. Brooks tonight.
[3:26] Yeah, Mr. Brooks.
[3:28] Kevin Costner.
[3:29] What a hottie.
[3:30] What a hottie, sure.
[3:32] Well, I have to say, this might be one of the better non-baseball-related Kevin Costner performances.
[3:40] He did not bother me at any point.
[3:43] What about Tin Cup?
[3:46] Yeah, well, that's also a sports movie.
[3:48] Mmm.
[3:50] Of the non-sports movies.
[3:51] Of the movies where Kevin Costner plays a serial killer.
[3:54] What about Dancing with Wolves?
[3:56] Dancing with Wolves?
Stuart Wellington
[3:57] I don't think that's the name of the movie, actually.
[4:00] Dancing with the Wolves.
[4:02] It's something like that, though.
[4:03] I think you're pretty close, so we'll just give it to you.
[4:06] Yeah, so Mr. Brooks.
[4:08] Dan, initial thoughts.
[4:10] Going into Mr. Brooks, you've seen the trailers.
[4:13] You see a lot of Demi Moore and Kevin Costner in these trailers.
[4:17] Looks like a thriller.
[4:20] We just watched Perfect Stranger last week, so you're probably in the mood for a thriller.
[4:27] Initial perceptions going into Mr. Brooks.
[4:29] What are your thoughts?
Dan McCoy
[4:30] Well, again, like Perfect Stranger, it seems like a movie that is past its sell-by date with Demi Moore and Kevin Costner in it.
[4:38] America's Sweethearts.
[4:39] Yeah.
[4:40] Yeah, they are literally at the peak of their power.
[4:43] I don't know.
[4:44] What I like about this movie, when I first saw the trailer, I was like, oh, this is a shitty thriller.
[4:50] But then when we saw the movie, it was so much more, because there was so much crazy stuff going on in it.
[4:56] Crazy stuff, you say?
[4:57] Well, I mean, how many plots were there in this film?
[5:00] There's a lot of plots.
[5:01] Let's count them.
[5:02] There's the plot where Mr. Brooks, played by Kevin Costner, doesn't want to kill anymore, and his imaginary friend William Hurt is urging him to kill, but he's trying not to kill.
[5:13] Okay.
[5:13] So he's struggling with that.
[5:14] All right.
[5:15] And then there's Dane Cook sees him kill someone and wants to be a killer, wants to be sort of an apprentice killer, and so he wants Mr. Brooks to school him in the way of murder.
[5:26] Sure.
[5:27] So there's that.
[5:28] Demi Moore is trying to track down Mr. Brooks, the fingerprint killer, as they call him, but also she's simultaneously trying to track down another killer who escaped and wants to kill her.
[5:42] And meanwhile, she's going through a divorce.
[5:45] That's a separate plot, too.
[5:46] It's a whole separate plot.
[5:48] And also, it turns out that his daughter, Mr. Brooks' daughter, is a killer.
[5:54] So that's a whole other plot.
Stuart Wellington
[5:56] That's five or something.
[5:57] I think if you actually look at all of the actual characters in this movie, I think that roughly half of them are killers or killers to be.
[6:06] Right.
[6:06] I think that's kind of weird.
Dan McCoy
[6:07] Well, it's an accurate portrait of life.
[6:09] Sure.
Stuart Wellington
[6:11] Now, Dan, I am Bruce Evans, the writer, director of this film, and I've written this script.
[6:20] I've written this great script called Mr. Brooks.
[6:22] So I go into a pitch meeting.
[6:24] And you and Jeanette are going to be the studio execs.
[6:27] Okay.
[6:27] And I come in and you're like, what would you say?
[6:30] Okay.
[6:31] Imagine you're these executives.
[6:32] What do you say to me?
[6:33] I come in with this script.
S3
[6:34] I hope you got something good, sir.
[6:36] I have no time.
Stuart Wellington
[6:39] Well, it's good because...
[6:40] I'm a very important person.
[6:42] I'll sum this excellent script up, Mr. Brooks, in a few short words.
Dan McCoy
[6:46] Seventeen words.
Stuart Wellington
[6:47] I can't do that.
[6:48] Or less.
[6:49] Now, imagine this.
[6:51] A serial killer who doesn't like to be a serial killer, and he loves his daughter, but she's a serial killer, and Demi Moore's in it as well.
[7:00] So wait, how many serial killers is that?
[7:03] Two.
[7:03] Potentially three.
S3
[7:05] Hmm.
[7:05] Hmm.
[7:06] Are there any kind of, like, I don't know, weird mental things going on with this guy?
Stuart Wellington
[7:10] There's at least one imaginary friend who approves of serial killing.
Dan McCoy
[7:15] Okay, good, because we can't understand mental illness unless it's illustrated for us by an imaginary character.
Stuart Wellington
[7:24] Yes.
[7:25] Two words, beautiful mind meets serial killer.
S3
[7:28] I have a question for you.
Stuart Wellington
[7:30] There's a few more than two words.
[7:31] Okay, answer.
[7:32] Okay.
S3
[7:32] So, his imaginary friend, this is a very key factor.
[7:37] When he looks through the rearview mirror, can he see him in the backseat?
Stuart Wellington
[7:41] Can other characters see the imaginary?
S3
[7:43] Can Kevin Costner see him?
Stuart Wellington
[7:45] I could write that into the script, yes.
[7:47] There's room for this.
Dan McCoy
[7:48] Right, because, I mean, logically there would be no reason why we'd have to adjust the mirror to see his imaginary friend.
[7:53] But I think that for the viewer, the viewer at home, or I guess in the theater, since this is a first run movie production, that would be an important thing.
Stuart Wellington
[8:01] I actually have a mock-up of the poster that features him looking through the rearview mirror at William Hurt.
[8:08] All right.
[8:08] Now, I was going to suggest...
[8:09] Wait, we're getting William Hurt?
[8:10] Wait, so you've already got a poster.
[8:11] I was going to suggest William Hurt in the role.
[8:14] He actually co-wrote the script with me.
Dan McCoy
[8:16] Are we talking lovable accidental tourist William Hurt, or sort of stern fatherly lost in space William Hurt?
[8:23] What sort of William Hurt are we going to get?
Stuart Wellington
[8:24] Fatherly dude William Hurt.
[8:28] Okay.
[8:29] Stern brotherly history of violence.
[8:33] Okay.
Dan McCoy
[8:34] All right.
[8:35] William Hurt is literally crazy.
[8:37] I mean, in real life, I think that we show that he's a crazy person.
[8:40] I think he's actually imaginary.
[8:42] Well, I say make the movie.
[8:43] Let's make it.
Stuart Wellington
[8:44] That's a go picture.
[8:45] Okay, so can I have some money?
[8:48] And I have Kevin Costner on the line.
[8:51] That's right.
[8:52] You were thinking Costner.
[8:53] You were thinking Costner.
[8:54] To Tonka Kevin Costner?
[8:56] Absolutely.
[8:57] Wait, was that from Dancing with the Wolves?
[9:00] We had some good laughs.
[9:02] Now, going into this movie, I thought there was going to be a lot more Demi Moore.
[9:10] Yeah.
[9:10] Like, maybe the trailers or the posters sold it differently.
[9:13] A little misleading.
Dan McCoy
[9:13] You thought it would be like a game of cat and mouse between Demi Moore and Mr. Brooks.
Stuart Wellington
[9:20] Yeah, I thought she'd be playing the role of like a Sandra Bullock or an Ashley Judd almost.
[9:24] You know, like an Ashley Judd movie?
Dan McCoy
[9:26] Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[9:27] Like a walk in my spider?
[9:29] Like an Ashley Judd slash Morgan Freeman vehicle?
[9:32] Yeah, like a paperback thriller.
Dan McCoy
[9:34] Yeah.
[9:35] Well, let's talk a little bit about Demi Moore.
[9:38] Demi Moore, a tough-as-nails policewoman.
[9:42] Also, a millionaire.
[9:44] She has $60 million for some reason.
S3
[9:46] It's a horror movie.
[9:47] Did we ever find out why she had $60 million?
Dan McCoy
[9:49] She inherited it from her dad, I guess?
[9:51] Wait, no, she didn't inherit it because her dad was still alive.
[9:54] So I guess it was in like a trust.
S3
[9:55] Okay.
[9:56] A $60 million trust.
Dan McCoy
[9:58] Yeah.
[9:58] But she was still a cop.
[10:00] And that's why Mr. Brooks liked her.
[10:02] He kind of liked her even though she was chasing after her.
S3
[10:04] Because she could find her own, you know, didn't have to rely on her father.
Dan McCoy
[10:07] Well, I think his relationship with her mirrored his relationship with his own daughter.
[10:11] Mm-hmm.
[10:12] The killer.
Stuart Wellington
[10:13] Yeah.
[10:14] He wanted his daughter to kind of find her own thing and not just be a killer like him.
[10:18] Yeah?
Dan McCoy
[10:19] But that didn't work out for him.
Stuart Wellington
[10:21] No.
[10:21] Well, that one's tough.
[10:23] Because a lot of the stuff where they actually talk about his daughter being a killer.
[10:28] By the way, Newsflash's daughter's a killer.
[10:31] I don't know if anyone's talking about it.
Dan McCoy
[10:31] Yeah, his daughter played by James Woods' daughter from Shark, the CBS hit show Shark.
[10:38] Yeah, yeah, yeah, Shark.
[10:39] So she specializes in playing the daughter of male stars from, you know, a decade past, say.
[10:47] Okay.
Stuart Wellington
[10:48] Well, yeah, so she apparently is a murderer or a murderess.
[10:52] Don't know which is appropriate.
[10:54] Just a murderer.
[10:54] Just a murderer.
[10:56] Don't be sexist, Stuart.
[10:57] Now, the entire, like, the only time...
Dan McCoy
[10:59] Girls can murder just like anyone else.
Stuart Wellington
[11:01] Well, the only time they really address her being a murderer is when he's talking to his imaginary friend.
[11:07] And since those conversations don't really happen...
[11:11] In real.
[11:11] Is she really a murderer?
[11:13] That's the thing.
[11:13] Or is that all, like, made-up shit?
S3
[11:15] Is that a part of his craziness that's coming out?
Stuart Wellington
[11:18] Yeah.
[11:18] Maybe is he just, like, projecting, like, if I was her, I'd be a murderer.
S3
[11:22] Maybe she's imaginary as well.
Stuart Wellington
[11:25] That's never...
[11:25] Well, that'd be kind of strange, but...
Dan McCoy
[11:27] I'd also like to point out that, like, she's apparently a hatchet killer.
[11:30] I mean, first of all, I think that in general, like, women...
[11:33] You know, like, not to gender discriminate or, like, make specifications, but I think women
[11:38] are more poison-oriented murderers in general.
[11:42] But also, why would she be carrying around a hatchet?
[11:44] Either this is a crime of passion and she just happened to have a hatchet because she was
[11:49] chopping some kindling, or she specifically chose a hatchet.
[11:53] And I'm not sure which one would be weirder for, like, a student who wants to embark on
[11:58] her career of killing chooses a hatchet.
S3
[12:00] Well, maybe it was logging school she was going to.
[12:03] I mean...
Dan McCoy
[12:03] They didn't address that.
[12:04] It could have been logging school, man.
[12:06] Jeanette, you're literally the first woman we've had on the podcast, so you have to represent
[12:11] your entire sex.
S3
[12:13] Well, I'd like to think that a hatchet is a tool you could use to try and, um...
[12:18] It's vaginal.
[12:19] It's a phallic...
[12:19] Well, it's kind of a phallic symbol.
[12:22] So I think that maybe, you know, women oftentimes want the power of being a man, so it's like
[12:27] swinging a big penis around.
Stuart Wellington
[12:29] Yeah.
[12:30] It's exactly like that.
[12:32] Yep.
[12:32] And when, uh, wait.
[12:35] Wait.
[12:36] Hatchet wound.
[12:37] That's a vagina.
[12:38] I've heard that before.
[12:40] See?
[12:40] Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[12:40] I think you introduced me to that phrase, by the way.
[12:43] And thank you.
Stuart Wellington
[12:44] Man, yeah.
[12:44] That's a good one.
[12:46] So, yeah, so wait, you take the hatchet and you try and stick it in the hatchet wound.
[12:50] Mm-hmm.
Dan McCoy
[12:51] That's...
[12:51] Yep, into the vagina.
[12:53] It's really sensual.
[12:54] Mm-hmm.
Stuart Wellington
[12:55] It's literally the most sensual way to kill someone.
[12:57] Now, you're a woman.
[12:59] Thank you.
[13:00] I think.
[13:01] Yeah.
[13:01] No, no, no.
[13:02] It's cool.
[13:03] I got, uh...
[13:04] You're a murderess.
[13:05] Your dad probably is a murderer.
[13:08] Mm-hmm.
S3
[13:09] I don't know this, though.
Stuart Wellington
[13:10] You don't know this, but, eh, who knows?
S3
[13:13] I've suspected.
Stuart Wellington
[13:14] How are you going to start killing people?
[13:15] You gotta start killing people.
[13:16] You gotta start that career off.
[13:18] You gotta get that high.
S3
[13:19] Well, it seems like dad's always killing people with guns, so...
[13:23] That's true.
[13:24] You know, I kinda wanted to step things up a little bit.
[13:27] Okay, so you would go straight to hatchet.
[13:28] Something bloodier.
Stuart Wellington
[13:29] Like a cudgel?
S3
[13:31] I don't know, like a letter...
[13:32] Start with, like, a letter opener, maybe.
[13:34] Something small to get me into it.
[13:36] Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[13:37] Just to start you off.
S3
[13:39] Yeah.
[13:39] You could stab someone in the eye with a letter opener.
Stuart Wellington
[13:42] That's true, but...
[13:43] That'd be really gross.
S3
[13:45] Killing is gross, Stuart.
Stuart Wellington
[13:46] Killing's gross, but it's also...
[13:48] It's also erotic.
Dan McCoy
[13:49] Yeah, it gets you off.
[13:51] Let's talk about how it gets you...
[13:52] Because there was a...
[13:53] The first time we are introduced to Mr. Brooks...
[13:57] Well, first, he's won the man of the year.
[13:59] From what governing body...
[14:02] I'm not sure.
Stuart Wellington
[14:03] I think it's the boxmaker's union.
Dan McCoy
[14:05] Yeah, let's take a moment to point out that Mr. Brooks is a box magnate.
[14:10] He owns a very big box-making concern.
[14:14] And as a manufacturer of cardboard boxes for various items, we see him showing some Japanese
[14:21] businessmen the sake box that they've apparently designed in-house.
[14:25] Yeah.
[14:26] He's a very rich man for making boxes.
[14:28] Understandably.
[14:29] So he's being awarded a man of the year.
[14:33] I think not because he's a boxmaker.
[14:36] I don't think for his boxmaking work.
[14:37] They said he's a philanthropist.
[14:38] Yeah.
[14:39] But then, later on that night, he goes out and he murders someone.
[14:43] And when he murders them, he has this odd sort of orgasmic reaction that's captured from
[14:48] several different camera angles and replayed in slow motion.
[14:52] Yeah, kind of slow motion.
[14:53] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
S3
[14:54] Well, let's point out that it had also been two years since he had murdered anyone.
[14:58] So this was like the orgasm waiting to happen.
[15:01] Yeah.
[15:01] The murder-gasm.
Stuart Wellington
[15:03] So, do you think Kevin Costner used his own O-face as a model for that?
[15:08] Or that he based it on somebody else's O-face?
[15:10] I think he studied.
Dan McCoy
[15:12] I think he studied too.
[15:13] I think he went on ride-alongs with other murderers.
[15:15] Sure.
[15:15] And saw what they looked like.
Stuart Wellington
[15:17] Well, I've always heard that Kevin Costner really gets into his roles like that.
[15:22] Like, when he was in the postman.
[15:23] Are you saying that he killed someone?
[15:25] I would...
[15:26] I wouldn't put it past him.
[15:28] In the postman, I bet he delivered a lot of mail.
[15:31] I think he had people call him the postman.
[15:33] In Waterworld, he...
[15:34] They called him Waterman.
[15:36] He had gills surgically attached to his neck.
[15:40] Uh-huh.
[15:41] That was a good movie, too.
[15:42] Mm-hmm.
Dan McCoy
[15:43] He also wore a bow tie in this film.
[15:45] Let's not forget that.
Stuart Wellington
[15:46] That's true.
[15:47] He did.
[15:47] Now, a couple weeks ago, I watched the first half of The Guardian.
[15:52] Also released this year, featuring Kevin Costner in the title, in the lead role.
[15:57] Title role.
[15:57] I think he played The Guardian.
[15:59] And Ashton Kutcher, another actor that America's love affair with will just never stop.
[16:06] Weirdly enough, the Demi Moore connection.
Dan McCoy
[16:09] And you know what?
[16:10] Do you think that maybe Ashton Kutcher pushed Mr. Brooks' script into Demi Moore's hands?
[16:16] He's like, ah, Costner was talking about this great project he's working on.
Stuart Wellington
[16:20] I think there's a perfect role for you.
[16:23] You know what?
[16:24] I bet that he actually had Ashley Judd all lined up.
[16:27] They even filmed a couple scenes.
[16:29] And then Ashton Kutcher flexed his, uh, flexed his leg.
[16:33] That somebody's true of muscle?
[16:34] Or, or maybe, maybe he just played the friend card.
[16:38] Right.
[16:38] Because after The Guardian, I bet they were pretty fast friends.
[16:41] You know, the, uh, their on-screen chemistry was amazing.
Dan McCoy
[16:44] Was it in The Guardian?
Stuart Wellington
[16:46] Uh, uh, didn't you see it too?
[16:48] I didn't see The Guardian.
[16:49] Oh, okay.
[16:50] I did.
[16:51] As I, as I said a couple minutes ago.
[16:53] You see it with your other girlfriend, Stuart?
[16:55] It just seems to be a little confusion about it.
[16:56] Yes.
[16:57] I don't want to talk about this.
[16:58] All right.
[17:00] So The Guardian, not very good.
[17:02] This, uh, quite good, apparently.
[17:04] Now, there was, uh, part of the thing that was confusing about Demi Moore was the fact
[17:07] that her characters seem pretty much unnecessary, completely.
[17:10] Uh, totally unnecessary.
[17:12] And then they include the additional serial killer subplot where she's, like, chasing a serial
[17:16] killer who just escaped, uh, who's dating, like, the serial killer's dating some chick with
[17:20] really big eyebrows.
Dan McCoy
[17:21] Yeah.
[17:22] Uh, and half-dye hair, or two-tone hair.
[17:25] Half-dye.
[17:26] Which is the way that, uh, the way that they almost get Demi Moore, the way the killer almost
Stuart Wellington
[17:30] gets Demi Moore, is Demi Moore is distracted, apparently by this woman's two-tone hair.
Dan McCoy
[17:36] I mean, that's the way it seems to be edited and shot.
[17:38] And her eyebrow ring.
[17:39] Yeah.
[17:39] And then that gives, uh, the killer time to, uh, push her into the van and they drive
[17:45] off with her.
[17:46] Oh.
[17:46] Yeah.
[17:47] I would be distracted, I think.
Stuart Wellington
[17:49] I mean, guys, uh, I mean, she's distracted, I think, primarily because, let's be honest,
[17:55] Demi Moore's hair in this movie looks great.
[17:58] Oh.
[17:58] Yeah, it looks fantastic.
S3
[17:59] I was gonna say it looks really bad and flat.
Stuart Wellington
[18:01] Well, we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one.
[18:04] How did it compare to Charlie's Angels 2?
[18:07] You know, I'm actually gonna have to, uh, I'm gonna have to admit that I never actually
[18:11] saw that one.
[18:12] Really?
[18:13] I don't know how I managed to miss that one.
[18:15] Because I'm a really big fan of McG.
[18:17] Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[18:18] Here's where I'm gonna go out on a, on a, on a, on a limb.
[18:22] All the true, uh, film fans are just gonna crucify me for, for holding this position.
[18:27] But I think that Charlie's Angels 2 is superior to the original Charlie's Angels.
[18:33] That's gonna be a really tough sell, man.
S3
[18:35] You're gonna get a lot of slack for that one.
Dan McCoy
[18:37] Ugh.
[18:37] Oh, there's gonna be a lot of chatter on the, the Flophouse forums.
Stuart Wellington
[18:40] Mm-hmm.
[18:40] All the fans.
[18:42] I'm gonna rent, uh, I'm gonna rent Charlie's Angels 2 and call you up in like an hour.
[18:47] What is it, like 60 minutes?
Dan McCoy
[18:49] Because I'm more interested right now in talking about this than what we're actually talking
[18:52] about.
[18:53] Let me give you my rationale, though.
[18:54] Um.
[18:54] Okay.
[18:55] Charlie's Angels.
[18:56] Charlie's Angels.
Dan McCoy
[18:57] Obviously, like, supposed to be this stupid, like, action film.
[19:00] You're not supposed to take it seriously.
[19:01] Like, this is an action comedy.
[19:03] However, when I watched it, I was like, well, they want to have it both ways.
[19:08] They want to have it be like this really, really goofy movie, but they also want it to somehow
[19:11] still work kind of as a blockbuster, I felt like.
[19:15] Whereas the second movie was so absurd that it basically was just, you know, let's, let's,
[19:21] let's have the Angels appear in a variety of fetish costumes for, for various reasons.
[19:27] You know, like, they're, they're different under, under, uh, undercover missions.
[19:31] I sort of.
[19:32] Sounds great.
[19:33] I sort of respected it for its lack of, uh, ambition.
S3
[19:36] No, sure.
[19:37] I like that the only thing that you can say about it is that they wore fetish.
Stuart Wellington
[19:40] Well, really, really, what else are you watching?
[19:43] Pretty much it.
Dan McCoy
[19:44] Charlie's Angels 2 for.
Stuart Wellington
[19:46] I'm not attracted to any of the three members of the Charlie's Angels team.
[19:51] Yeah.
[19:51] I think that's kind of weird.
[19:52] Yeah.
[19:53] I think I'm supposed to be.
S3
[19:55] Is she one of those?
[19:56] Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[19:56] Cameron Diaz.
[19:57] Yeah.
[19:57] From The Mask.
S3
[19:59] Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[19:59] That's what she's best known for is a role in The Mask.
[20:03] Breakthrough performance.
Dan McCoy
[20:06] But, um, to return, I guess, to Mr. Brooks.
Stuart Wellington
[20:09] Yeah.
[20:09] We were talking about that.
[20:11] So, um, Dane Cook is in this movie.
[20:14] I've never actually seen him in a movie or anything before.
S3
[20:17] I had no idea who he was before this movie.
[20:19] Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[20:20] He's apparently on MySpace a lot.
Dan McCoy
[20:22] Yeah.
[20:22] Doing what?
[20:23] Being a comedian.
[20:25] Yeah.
[20:25] But being a comedian specifically that enjoys networking with his fans.
[20:29] That's pretty cool.
S3
[20:29] So he just, like, writes people jokes on their, like, MySpace comments?
Stuart Wellington
[20:33] Well, he's known for...
[20:35] He's like, hey, Star Wars rocks.
[20:36] Dane Cook.
[20:37] Peace out, suckers.
[20:38] That's not a joke.
[20:40] He's like, shit.
[20:41] Oh my god.
[20:42] Then he isn't a comedian.
Dan McCoy
[20:43] He's known for really building up a fan base through, like, interacting with the people.
[20:50] You know, he's come down off of his high stand-up, out of his high stand-up tower to really interact with his fans directly through the internet.
[20:58] Okay.
S3
[20:59] He's an everyman kind of guy.
Dan McCoy
[21:02] Yeah, he also likes a lot of gestures.
[21:05] This is, like, a gesture-based comedy.
S3
[21:08] Well, I'd have to say that I wasn't very impressed with his performance in this movie.
Stuart Wellington
[21:12] I wasn't impressed with his skin complexion.
[21:18] You were impressed with him?
[21:19] I wasn't.
[21:20] Oh, you weren't?
[21:21] He looked kind of like a beige-orange peel.
[21:25] Why did he start out...
[21:27] I still don't say anything.
S3
[21:29] Why did he start out as, like, this tough guy, like, I've got your secret.
[21:33] I'm gonna, like, take you down if you don't, like, do what I want.
[21:36] And then turn into this, like, blubbering, like, nervous, like, wreck.
Dan McCoy
[21:40] Yeah, well, let's clarify.
[21:41] Dane Cook played the guy who wanted to become a murderer.
[21:45] He saw Mr. Brooks kill someone, and instead of turning him in, he was like, I want to join your murder club.
Stuart Wellington
[21:54] Or at the very least being like, hey, you know what?
[21:56] This guy just murdered two people.
[21:59] He's probably done it before.
[22:01] And this guy's got a lot to lose.
[22:03] Maybe I shouldn't, like, threaten him at all?
Dan McCoy
[22:05] Well, again, it's the perfect stranger problem.
[22:08] Like, we talked about how at the end of Perfect Stranger, Giovanni Ribisi shows up at Halle Berry's place and is like,
[22:14] oh, by the way, I figured out you're the murderer, and I haven't told anybody, and I want you to have sex with me, or else I'll tell people.
[22:23] And so, of course, she kills him.
[22:25] Right.
[22:26] Likewise, I mean, like, here, Dane Cook's character's a little smarter.
[22:30] He has the photographs of the killing, and he's, you know, it's the old, if something happens to me, these photos are gonna be found ploy.
[22:39] But still, outsmarted.
S3
[22:41] Yeah, well, you added the inferior mind to Kevin Costner's character.
Dan McCoy
[22:44] Yeah, well, it's...
[22:45] Again, it's, you know, all serial killers are masterminds and geniuses.
Stuart Wellington
[22:49] I mean, the other thing is, of course, keep in mind that, like, this movie demonstrated once again, that two heads are better than one.
[22:56] Kevin Costner also has the advantage of having William Hurt around to give him advice.
S3
[23:01] So, in addition to being a genius as it is, then he has his...
Stuart Wellington
[23:06] He has an additional imaginary character helping him out.
[23:08] Yeah.
[23:09] A Paul Bettany-esque character, if you will.
[23:12] Right, right.
S3
[23:13] Who, they also like to enjoy little cackles together at certain times throughout the movie, which I thought was really retarded.
Stuart Wellington
[23:20] Right, there's a lot of things I didn't like about this movie.
[23:23] But in actuality, one of the things I did like, I thought there was a weird, friendly chemistry between William Hurt and Kevin Costner.
[23:30] I did not like that.
[23:31] That is the only, like, that is, I think, one of the only things I actually genuinely liked.
[23:35] It almost felt like it did kind of feel like they're weird buddies.
[23:38] Now, granted, both of them are kind of weird guys, in general.
S3
[23:41] It didn't make any sense to me, because it started out with Kevin Costner hating this guy, and, like, well, not hating him, but just, like, really wanting to overcome his obsession with killing.
[23:51] And then going, ah, stop telling me to kill people, I hate you.
[23:55] And then all of a sudden, they're, like, buddies and cackling in the back, and then, you know, hugging each other in the kitchen on the floor while they're crying together.
[24:02] Yeah, that was true.
[24:03] They did.
Stuart Wellington
[24:03] They did hug.
[24:04] Was that an imaginary hug, though, probably?
[24:07] I think we're to believe it's...
[24:08] I think that was a real hug.
[24:09] Probably.
Dan McCoy
[24:10] You think he was hugging air?
[24:11] Yes.
[24:11] I think that was a real hug.
[24:13] You know, I thought that maybe when they're laughing, like, that was the one time when, like, the two sides of his personality merged, and they had a good laugh together.
[24:20] Okay, so it was deep like that.
[24:23] I have to say, going back to Dane Cook, though, um, you know, not a good actor.
[24:28] No.
[24:29] However, I think appropriate to the role.
[24:31] Yeah, that's true.
[24:32] Because I really believed that he was, like, this creepy asshole.
Stuart Wellington
[24:35] Yeah.
[24:36] That's fair.
[24:37] That's fair.
[24:37] He did seem like a creepy asshole, and frankly, the majority of the movie, like, when he got killed, I didn't really care.
[24:43] I thought it was kind of funny.
S3
[24:44] Well, that's the problem, though.
[24:45] I didn't care about anybody in this movie, really.
[24:47] Like, not even Kevin Costner.
Stuart Wellington
[24:49] Kevin Costner's always, like, liking Kevin Costner's always a fucking uphill battle.
[24:54] You got movies like Tin Cup and all those other fucking movies where, like, eventually you're like, oh, man, this rascal, this old fucking sandbagger.
[25:02] Okay, fine, I like him, despite all his flaws.
[25:05] Well, this movie, like, there's very little to like about him other than the fact that, like, he's really good at being a murderer.
[25:11] Yeah, you mean that the fact that he's a serial killer doesn't make you sympathetic to him?
Dan McCoy
[25:16] I know, isn't it?
Stuart Wellington
[25:16] That's strange.
[25:17] I mean, they do, like, there is the good screenwriting thing early on where they're like, the main character is awarded the Man of the Year Award.
[25:25] Like, oh, he is?
[25:27] Well, what's his story?
[25:29] I want to find out more about this guy.
Dan McCoy
[25:31] That is the most baffling sort of screenplay trope to me, by the way.
[25:34] The fact, you know, you see it in movies like, you know, like, you see it in, like, cop movies of the 80s.
[25:41] Say, a Beverly Hills cop, where the bad guy is always the upstanding member of society who's being honored at some charity function.
[25:52] Like the fugitive.
[25:53] Yeah, and then they'll break in and they'll be like, wait a minute, and then there's a big, you know, hullabaloo.
[25:58] You know, I guess that was an original idea when it was an original idea.
[26:02] Like, oh, okay, the villains actually.
S3
[26:04] That was original because, I was just thinking about this, actually.
[26:08] In the 70s, it seems like in 70s films, especially Robert De Niro, is that who I'm thinking of?
[26:13] Taxi Driver?
[26:14] Yeah, yeah.
[26:14] Yeah.
[26:14] He always plays such a bad, like, unlikable character back in, like, in the 70s.
[26:20] And all those movies, like, the womanizer and, like, this, like, kind of disgusting and all these, like, gritty New York movies where he's, like, killing people.
[26:26] And you never like him, but he's the hero.
[26:28] I feel like the 80s was, like, the turnaround time.
[26:31] We can, like, like, we're supposed to start liking the character more.
[26:34] They're supposed to be, like, more upstanding citizens, but that doesn't work, really, for me.
Stuart Wellington
[26:39] Wait, the bad guys are supposed to be more upstanding, or the good guys are, like...
S3
[26:43] The good guys...
[26:44] The bad guys can be both now.
Dan McCoy
[26:46] Oh, okay.
[26:47] The good guys are, like, individualistic antiheroes.
[26:50] Okay.
[26:51] That's kind of like this movie.
[26:53] Speaking of Beverly Hills Cop, though, I want to point out that the director of this film,
[26:58] the one other movie he directed was Cuffs, which is basically Beverly Hills Cop if you replace the Beverly Hills Police Department with a private security company.
[27:08] Which is weird.
[27:08] And replace Eddie Murphy with Christian Slater.
Stuart Wellington
[27:11] Dan, I'm not going to lie.
[27:13] I really like the movie Cuffs.
[27:15] Yeah.
[27:15] Maybe just...
[27:16] Is there the fifth shoe in that movie?
[27:17] No.
[27:18] What's her fucking name?
[27:20] Oh, my God.
[27:21] The chick from Resident Evil.
[27:23] Oh, yeah.
[27:24] Milla Jovovich.
[27:24] Milla Jovovich.
[27:25] That was one of her first acting parts.
[27:28] Exactly.
[27:28] And the dude who played the titular role in Dr. Giggles was one of the bad guys.
[27:34] Dr. Giggles.
Dan McCoy
[27:36] No, I, you know, I...
[27:37] It's probably not a good movie, but I saw Cuffs at the right age that now I...
Stuart Wellington
[27:42] I saw that, and, like, the next week I saw If Looks Could Kill with Richard Rinko, and I was like,
[27:47] movies can't get better than these, dudes.
[27:52] Ah, man.
[27:53] We had some Elias talking about If Looks Could Kill earlier.
[27:57] Yeah.
[27:57] You know, a couple seconds ago.
[27:59] I just did a little flashback to remind you.
[28:01] Yeah.
[28:02] Well, um, despite all the plots, I feel like we're winding down a little.
Dan McCoy
[28:07] I think that we should just move on.
[28:08] Probably a good idea.
[28:09] Wind it up.
[28:10] Um, so, final judgments.
[28:13] Uh, Simon.
[28:14] Yeah, can you remind us of the...
[28:16] As always, the official Flophouse categories are, is this a movie that you didn't like at
[28:21] all and wouldn't recommend to anyone?
[28:23] A movie that you thought was, uh, so bad it's good, if you will, funny, uh, because it was
[28:28] bad.
[28:29] Or a movie that you secretly kind of liked.
[28:31] So, I'm going to start with Jeanette.
[28:34] A lot of pressure.
S3
[28:35] It's a lot of pressure.
[28:37] And actually, that's a pretty easy one for me.
[28:38] I would have to say, uh, the number one category here.
[28:42] Um, I didn't like it at all.
[28:44] And I wouldn't recommend it to watch for a good time.
[28:49] Because, honestly, I didn't really have...
Dan McCoy
[28:51] So, you would recommend it to watch for a bad time?
S3
[28:53] Yes.
[28:53] By the converse...
[28:54] If you'd like to have a bad time.
[28:56] Now, I wouldn't even say it's a bad time.
[28:57] It's just kind of like a, eh, honks you.
[28:59] Like, hmm.
[29:00] It's a little, I don't know, too much, too much convoluted plot.
[29:04] I didn't really, I didn't really want there to be so much.
[29:08] I wasn't...
[29:08] You didn't really care.
[29:11] I cared.
[29:11] I didn't want there to be so much.
[29:13] Oh, okay.
Dan McCoy
[29:14] Dan?
[29:15] I'm gonna...
[29:15] This might...
[29:17] I'm gonna go for it.
[29:18] This is gonna be my first...
[29:19] I kinda liked it.
[29:20] I kinda...
[29:21] I'm not gonna go out...
[29:22] I'm not gonna say it's a good movie by any stretch.
[29:25] However, what I appreciated about it was actually what you didn't like.
[29:28] I just liked the fact that there was so much stuff going on.
[29:33] Like, they were like...
[29:33] We made this weird thriller, and we're just gonna pack it full of the craziest twists.
[29:39] We are gonna have four killers in it.
[29:42] Or what...
[29:43] Or like, three killers and one potential killer.
[29:46] Like, the tagline I was saying, like...
[29:48] If you're a guy who wants to be a killer, you need to learn from a killer.
[29:53] Who's the dad of a killer?
[29:55] You know, like, it was just really weird.
[29:58] And, I mean, I don't think it's good, but if it came on, like, HBO, if you have HBO and
[30:04] it came on and you had, like, a couple drinks, and it's like a Tuesday...
[30:08] Yeah.
[30:08] I would say watch it.
Stuart Wellington
[30:10] Yep.
[30:11] Yep.
[30:12] In a world where, of too many killers, the best killer has to set up and kill the other killers.
[30:17] You know, Dan?
[30:20] We've had a lot of disagreements in the past.
[30:23] I think this one I might actually have to agree with Dan on.
[30:25] I weirdly enjoyed this movie.
[30:27] I don't quite know why, but early on I was like, this movie's fucking really weird.
[30:32] I kind of like it.
[30:34] I think it was when the dude blackmailing him was like, dude, I totally want to join your team.
[30:40] Like, okay, fuck it, okay.
[30:42] I'm going for the ride along with this Dave Cook dude.
[30:46] Let me sit in the backseat with William Hurt and we'll watch what's going on.
[30:50] So, yeah, I mean, I'm not going to say it's a good movie or, like, I agree with, like, it being good or interesting,
[30:58] but there was a lot of weird-ass shit happening, and thus, I have to say, I liked significant parts of it.
[31:03] All right.
[31:04] Holy shit.
[31:05] Wow.
[31:06] I feel a little weird.
[31:07] Maybe it's because Simon's not here.
[31:09] Yeah.
[31:09] He's a very negative guy.
[31:11] Yeah, we didn't have his, like, negative, like, toxicity, like, pouring all over us.
Dan McCoy
[31:17] Well, moving away from that section of the show, however, now comes the section where we talk about
[31:24] things that we would recommend without reservations.
[31:27] Perhaps not if you're having a couple drinks on a Tuesday.
[31:32] So, I'm going to start with Stuart.
Stuart Wellington
[31:35] Last night, I watched the first half of a little movie called 300.
[31:41] And, you know, we don't get a lot of, like, really good period pieces anymore.
[31:45] Wait, you're going to try and sell 300 as a really good period piece?
[31:48] As a really good period piece.
[31:49] Like, it really transports you to the days of yore.
[31:53] And when was yore?
[31:55] It was quite some time ago, if I recall.
[31:57] All right.
[31:57] When there were monsters invading from Africa or something.
[32:01] And, you know, where men were men and had really awesome six-packs and were kind of sassy and really appreciated their freedom.
[32:10] So, I'm going to recommend that.
[32:12] If you really like your freedom and you don't like some fucking giant dude with a bunch of slaves telling you what to do,
[32:19] you should watch that shit.
[32:21] It's pretty good.
Dan McCoy
[32:23] You think I'm being sarcastic?
[32:24] No, no.
[32:25] I, you know, I watched 300 and I guess I was entertained.
[32:29] But for a movie that was, like, nothing but a big fight scene, I was strangely bored by it.
S3
[32:35] I fell asleep, but I was, I was tired, so I can't blame it all on the movie.
Stuart Wellington
[32:40] I'd blame the Persians.
[32:42] They must have hit you with some sleeping gas.
[32:44] Yeah.
[32:45] Carried by one of their elephant men.
[32:47] Jeanette, do you have a recommendation?
S3
[32:49] I don't know.
[32:49] I'm trying to, I'm trying to think of something.
[32:51] I mean, last night.
[32:51] This is a movie.
Stuart Wellington
[32:52] A movie that you recommend.
[32:53] Yeah.
[32:55] Yes, I'm regarded.
[32:56] I mean, it's going to recommend it.
[32:58] I have, I have, I have a lot of difficulty grasping the concepts.
[33:01] Are you afraid?
[33:02] Yep, you're going to recommend my mom.
[33:03] Yeah.
[33:04] Uh, no, no.
[33:06] That's not a movie.
Dan McCoy
[33:08] You're afraid that she's going to recommend, um, the soda fresca.
Stuart Wellington
[33:12] No, the thing is that I had a lot of difficulty grasping the basic premise of this part of the show.
[33:17] So I was trying to help you on.
[33:19] Because I thought, you know, frankly, you might fuck it up like I did and got a lot of flack from Dan.
S3
[33:24] No, no, no.
[33:25] I understand, I understand this part.
[33:26] I'm actually trying to think of something that I've seen recently.
[33:29] Um, the only, I happened to see George of the Jungle yesterday with, uh, with, uh, what's his name?
[33:36] Brendan Fraser.
[33:36] Brendan Fraser.
[33:37] I would recommend that movie if you would like to be, just completely feel ridiculous the entire time you're watching it and kind of pissed off.
Dan McCoy
[33:46] Um, so, that is, that is more of a conditional recommendation.
S3
[33:52] But other than that, I guess I could recommend, I just watched Raising Arizona again for the first time in a long time.
[33:59] So, that's always a good one to fall back on.
[34:02] Right.
[34:02] Good for a laugh.
Stuart Wellington
[34:03] Good for a good job.
[34:04] Now, wasn't Brendan Fraser also in the Dudley Do-Right movie?
Dan McCoy
[34:08] Yeah.
[34:08] He's making a career of, uh, being in Jay Ward cartoon adaptations.
[34:12] That's fucking really weird.
[34:14] Yeah.
S3
[34:15] Yeah, he was in, what else was he in that was really...
[34:17] He had like a niche.
[34:18] Oh, Encino.
[34:19] Was he Encino Man?
Stuart Wellington
[34:20] He was totally an Encino Man.
[34:21] Yeah.
[34:22] He actually played the Encino Man character.
[34:25] Yeah.
[34:25] Right.
[34:25] That Pauly Shore and Sean Aston befriend.
[34:28] He's also in Monkey Bone.
[34:30] Oh, yeah.
Dan McCoy
[34:31] He is in the movie Monkey Bone.
[34:32] I didn't know there was a movie named Monkey Bone.
Stuart Wellington
[34:33] He's also in that Blast from the Past movie with Christopher Walton.
[34:37] Yeah.
[34:37] And Alicia Silverstone.
[34:39] There's a whole sort of, like...
[34:41] That's kind of a period of peace.
[34:42] Extremely light comedy.
[34:44] It is a period of peace.
[34:45] A lot like 300 in that way.
S3
[34:46] Right.
[34:47] So, ours kind of match up.
[34:49] Days of Yore.
[34:50] Yeah, that was.
[34:51] Yeah, it's true.
[34:51] Creativity.
Dan McCoy
[34:52] So, after all that discussion about how it has to be a movie that we're recommending,
[34:57] I...
[34:58] This is like a first for me because I do a movie podcast and I...
[35:03] You probably see a lot of movies, right?
[35:04] I like movies.
[35:06] I have not seen any movies since we last recorded a podcast.
[35:11] So, are you going to just recommend Mr. Brooks?
[35:12] Well, everyone should see it.
Stuart Wellington
[35:15] It's my pick for Best Picture Oscar.
[35:18] Oh, interesting.
Dan McCoy
[35:19] No, I...
[35:20] I'm going to just...
[35:22] I'm going to break the rules, but I'm going to keep in the video medium and say that I watched,
[35:30] for the first time, the IT Crowd, the British sitcom that was downloaded for me by a friend
[35:38] in a...
[35:38] what I'm sure is a completely legal way from the internet.
[35:42] Sure.
[35:42] What is his friend's name?
[35:44] And...
[35:45] It's called...
[35:46] His name is Mr. Brooks.
[35:49] Okay.
[35:49] It was on Mr. Brooks Lane.
[35:51] There's no way that could be fake.
[35:53] On one, two, three, four fake street, sure.
[35:56] But what I have to say about the IT Crowd is British sitcoms seem to have this ability
[36:01] to do something that most American sitcoms just don't know how to do, which is have relatable,
[36:08] sort of understanding...
[36:09] Understandable situations.
[36:11] Like, it has a real-life grounding to stuff, but then it's not afraid of just throwing
[36:16] in completely absurd, off-the-wall stuff and having that exist in the same universe and
[36:21] trust that the audience isn't going to be like, wait a minute, are we in a real world?
[36:26] Are we in a crazy world?
[36:27] They're just going to take it as comedy because it's funny.
[36:31] Yeah, that's fair.
[36:32] And it's a really good show.
S3
[36:34] Well, I would have known we could do shows.
[36:37] Man.
Dan McCoy
[36:39] This thing's falling apart.
Stuart Wellington
[36:41] Yeah.
[36:42] I prefer movies and not shows, so I guess I'm in the minority of my guys.
Dan McCoy
[36:48] Yeah.
[36:49] You're just enjoying your moral superiority for once.
[36:52] I am.
[36:53] It's weird.
[36:54] It feels kind of uncomfortable.
[36:55] So.
[36:56] This is the first Flophouse with a guest host.
[37:00] How did you think it went, guys?
[37:01] How you doing?
[37:02] Weird.
[37:03] Yeah?
[37:03] Awkward.
[37:04] I feel a little uncomfortable, sure.
S3
[37:05] Well, I feel a little pressure representing the entire woman, you know, population.
[37:10] I mean.
[37:10] Movie population.
Dan McCoy
[37:11] I like to think.
[37:12] And we're both forceful, bombastic personalities.
[37:14] I know.
Stuart Wellington
[37:15] I mean, I think we popped a lot of cherries tonight, guys.
[37:17] Mm-hmm.
[37:18] The woman cherry.
[37:19] Yeah.
[37:19] Your cherry.
[37:20] I'm feeling violated.
[37:21] Sure.
[37:22] Understandably.
S3
[37:23] It's.
[37:24] A little sore.
Stuart Wellington
[37:25] A lot of girth.
[37:27] Well.
[37:29] With that image reverberating in podcast listeners' ears,
Dan McCoy
[37:33] I think we should sign off.
[37:36] But I want to, as always, tell people they should go to theflophousepodcast.blogspot.com.
[37:44] And if while they're there and reading the show notes they want to vote for us or write a review,
[37:49] there's some links on the side they can click on.
[37:52] And if they want to send an email, they can send it to theflophousepodcast at gmail.com.
[37:58] And maybe we'll respond.
[37:59] What do you think of that?
[38:01] What do you think of that?
[38:01] That's good.
[38:02] Yeah.
[38:02] Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[38:02] You were tight on that one, dude.
[38:04] Yeah.
[38:04] Totally on the ball.
Dan McCoy
[38:05] I'm trying to cut down on the lengthy, lengthy podcasts.
Stuart Wellington
[38:09] Yeah.
[38:10] I'm just going to talk for about 20 more minutes about girth.
Dan McCoy
[38:13] You know what?
[38:13] It's because Simon's not here.
[38:16] That dude's a fucking slowly one canooby.
[38:18] All we're going to get is infuriated emails from Simon at theflophousepodcast at gmail.com.
[38:25] He doesn't own a computer.
[38:26] It's okay.
S3
[38:27] I'll never listen to the Flophouse again.
Dan McCoy
[38:29] Well, on that tragic note.
[38:31] It is tragic.
[38:32] Let's sign off for tonight.
[38:34] I'm Dan McCoy.
[38:36] I'm Stuart Willington.
S3
[38:37] I'm Jeanette Lair.
[38:39] Good night.
[38:40] Bye.
Stuart Wellington
[38:42] Bye.
[38:42] Bye.
[38:44] Yay.
S3
[38:48] Bye.
[38:50] Oh, wait.
[38:50] DSL lips is redundant.
Stuart Wellington
[38:52] Yes, that would be redundant.
S3
[38:54] They're stuck in with lips.
Stuart Wellington
[38:57] Yep.
[38:57] Right.
[38:58] It's like the ATM machine, you know?
[39:01] ATM machine.
[39:01] Look at her.
[39:02] Look at her.
[39:02] Look at her.
[39:02] Look at her.
[39:02] Look at her.
[39:03] Look at those plump-ass lips.
S3
[39:05] Ooh.
[39:05] Like she got stung by a bunch of sexy bees.
Stuart Wellington
[39:09] Right around the lips.
[39:10] Bye.

In this episode

Speakers
Dan McCoy 18mStuart Wellington 14m

Description

In our first episode sans Simon, we welcome friend-of-the-show Jeanette Laird to the guest host seat, to discuss the Kevin Costner split-personality serial killer film Mr. Brooks.  Meanwhile, Stuart makes a movie pitch, Dan reveals an embarrassing secret about Charlie’s Angels, and Jeanette teaches us how to kill a man.0:00 – 0:36 Introduction and theme.0:37 – 2:50 Partial synopsis of Mr. Brooks, courtesy of Wikipedia.2:51 – 28:02 Something’s happening here and you don’t know what it is, do you, Mr. Brooks?28:03 – 31:16 Final judgments.31:17 – 36:55 The sad bastards recommend.36:56 – Podcasty business, goodbyes, theme, and outtakes.*A small apology for the audio quality of some of this episode.  I have no idea why my voice sounds so booming at times, while Stuart and Jeanette sound like they are in the next room, other than the obvious explanation that I am 40 feet tall.

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