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The Flop House: Episode #20 - 10,000 B.C.
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Dan McCoy
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On this special, unedited episode of The Flophouse, we take a trip in our shitty movie time machine back to 10,000 BC.
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Hey everybody, welcome to your favorite podcast, The Flophouse.
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Yay!
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Ow!
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Meow!
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I bet you didn't know it was your favorite podcast, but I told you.
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So they know now.
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They know now. It certainly is.
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There's a bunch of other podcasts out there, right?
Elliott Kalan
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I don't think, well, two or three.
Dan McCoy
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Yeah, there's at least 12.
Elliott Kalan
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This American Morning and Sound of a Young American Nation.
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And Dane Cook and shit.
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Dane Cook's Podsy in the morning and podding around.
Dan McCoy
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Ask a ninja how to cook.
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Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
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Cast pod, that's a fishing podcast.
Stuart Wellington
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That sounds funny. Ninjas are funny, right?
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No.
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They're not played out.
Elliott Kalan
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No, they're on the played out list.
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No, they are.
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They're right on the played out list with monkeys, cheese, pirates.
Stuart Wellington
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What about cyborg bears?
Elliott Kalan
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I love to eat cheese.
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Cyborg bears are going to be there.
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They're close.
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I can't have cheese anymore?
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No, no, cheese is a comedy idea.
Stuart Wellington
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Oh.
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Yeah, okay. I'll write that down.
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Well, now that we're...
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Wait, is that what they talk about in the daily show?
Elliott Kalan
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This is what we talk about all day, all day long.
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It's things that are played out.
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Jokes that we can't use anymore.
Stuart Wellington
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When you're having rap sessions, that's what they're called, right?
Elliott Kalan
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When we're talking about modern day issues that teens care about.
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And then 20 minutes before the show, you're like, oh shit.
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We better write this really precise comedy.
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We got 20 minutes.
Dan McCoy
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Oh, Elliot just got really defensive all of a sudden.
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Yeah.
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Well, it's Emmy time.
Elliott Kalan
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I don't want you to influence any Emmy voters to not vote for us.
Dan McCoy
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Don't vote for him.
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Yeah.
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No, come on.
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Any Emmy voters, any Nielsen families, all of you should forget what Elliot has to say.
Stuart Wellington
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What's that?
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What's that?
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It doesn't exist.
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What's that show with Holly Hunter where she's like battling ghosts or something?
Elliott Kalan
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Second Sight, is that it?
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Saving Grace.
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Saving Grace.
Stuart Wellington
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Watch that instead of the daily show.
Elliott Kalan
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No, they're not going to fill the same need at all.
Dan McCoy
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At least I get all my news from Saving Grace.
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Apparently, America is having a lot of issues with angels.
Elliott Kalan
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Do you think Saving Grace and The Ghost Whisperer have really diehard fans that hate each other?
Stuart Wellington
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Which show do you think has a better country song as a lead in?
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I bet Saving Grace.
Elliott Kalan
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I would say Walker, Texas Ranger.
Dan McCoy
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As you can probably guess from our discussion thus far, we watched the film 10,000 BC tonight.
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Okay, yeah, we did.
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Yeah.
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I'm going to have to rely heavily on you two guys to explain the movie to me because honestly,
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I have never been so bored in my entire life.
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It's your basic...
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I haven't been so bored in 10,000 BC years.
Stuart Wellington
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10,000 BC years.
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I had to clarify because it's actually 12,000 years ago.
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That's true.
Dan McCoy
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10,000 BC years are the years that Johnny Hart measured.
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That was his androgrammatite time.
Elliott Kalan
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10,000 BC, for anyone who hasn't seen it, I don't know who hasn't because it was a huge hit.
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Everyone remembers the 10,000 BC backpacks, lunchboxes, the hit song.
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The 10,000 BC dance praise.
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To take it back and then in parentheses to 10,000 BC.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But it's your basic cave Rasta gets his girlfriend stolen by four-legged demons, which are men on horseback.
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Turns out as he travels through the prehistoric world he lives in, that he's the prophesied chosen one of every tribe in the world.
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They go to this place where slaves are building pyramids for the sake of a very poorly defined cult church that worships an albino.
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And then they revolt and overthrow the bad guys.
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And the girlfriend is almost killed but saved with magic.
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And there are mammoths in it also.
Dan McCoy
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Well, you've explained the entire film.
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I don't know that we need to speak about it.
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Sounds like they fall in love at the end.
Elliott Kalan
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But no, they were pretty much in love the whole time.
Stuart Wellington
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That explains it.
Elliott Kalan
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That's why I was so obsessed with her.
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They were in an arranged marriage from childhood.
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And unlike most arranged marriages around 10,000 BC, this one was based on true love.
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And it really worked out.
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And it's a success story.
Stuart Wellington
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Okay.
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It wasn't like an economic-based arranged marriage.
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No.
Elliott Kalan
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And they didn't need the best-selling book of the time.
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Men are from Lemuria.
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Women are from the lost continent of Mu.
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That joke is terrible.
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It is.
Dan McCoy
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It is an awful joke.
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You have put your finger on the nub of my gist regarding this film.
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What?
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It's a good thing they can't.
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It's a radio podcast and they can't see that.
Elliott Kalan
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Not a video.
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Anyway.
Dan McCoy
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Well, but isn't it enough that our lead characters, our lead caveman, if you will.
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Sure.
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I will.
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Not played by Ringo Starr.
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Isn't it enough that his girlfriend gets kidnapped and he has to get her back?
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Isn't that enough to motivate the action of this film?
Elliott Kalan
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No.
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He needs to have a prophecy.
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There needs to be magic.
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There needs to be some sort of made-up religion.
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There's got to be a lot of legends and tales and people who talk about the great mountains
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and the river like a snake and the sky rain and so forth.
Dan McCoy
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But I just want to see a drama of our ancestors, Elliot.
Elliott Kalan
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How are you going to make a movie out of that?
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It's like we were talking about.
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People love mythologies and very thick legends and stuff.
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That's what made Pirates of the Caribbean 2 and 3 so much better than the first one.
Stuart Wellington
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People want to watch a movie where they're like, oh my god, they're following him because he was able to talk to the spear tooth.
Elliott Kalan
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That's right.
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The reason they know he's the chosen one is because he saved a saber-toothed tiger from a trap and so it defended him later.
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Just like normal animals, right?
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Just like in real life when an animal will remember that you helped it and return the favor.
Stuart Wellington
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Well, that's how I got...
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Possibly giving you a high five as it leaves after explaining the situation of the tribesmen.
Dan McCoy
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That's how I got my pet cat to love me.
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My pet cat actually, you know, I brought some flowers home for my wife and my cat stepped on one of the roses, got a thorn in its foot, and I pulled it out.
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And ever since then, we've been the best of friends.
Elliott Kalan
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A similar thing happened to a guy I knew where he found a lion in the jungle with a thorn in its paw.
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And it was in great pain.
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It couldn't walk.
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And he pulled the thorn out and it jumped on him and ate him.
Stuart Wellington
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Hey, and then this other thing happened to a guy I knew who had to try and save the spear tooth.
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And then he did.
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And then it showed up and helped him.
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Oh, wait.
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That was in this movie, wasn't it?
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That was the movie we saw.
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So that wasn't a guy I knew.
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That was Tick-Tick or whatever his name was.
Dan McCoy
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You'll remember the fact that it was called a spear tooth.
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Well, yes.
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Because this is a point that I made.
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You're making a movie about olden times.
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The olden days.
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Ancient times.
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Let's call it ancient times.
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Sure.
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Olden times sounds like the 14th century.
Elliott Kalan
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Yeah, the Renaissance Fair.
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Yeah.
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Ancient timeies.
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Renaissance Fair.
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Yeah, olden times was last weekend at the Renaissance Fair.
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But everyone talks.
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This is literally pre-history.
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There is no written history.
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The closest we come to it is legends and a painting of a man cowing a spear tooth.
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There are no real words.
Dan McCoy
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We can make up whatever fucking rules we want to.
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So I assume that in this case, as a screenwriter, you're like, okay, basically because I don't
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know what the language is, whatever I put forth to the audience, whatever people say, they're
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just going to speak in English.
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Not slang English.
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Not modern English.
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They're not going to call each other dog.
Stuart Wellington
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They're not going to say dude.
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What up, Holmes?
Elliott Kalan
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Yeah.
Dan McCoy
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But it's just going to be straight up English.
Elliott Kalan
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However...
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I saw you jawboning with that spear tooth.
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What's his deal?
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I don't know.
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That's the thing.
Dan McCoy
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Every once in a while...
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They do one of these things where they throw in an extra word.
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They're like, okay, not a saber tooth.
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A spear tooth.
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Not a mammoth.
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What would they call it?
Elliott Kalan
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The mammoth was called a manic for some reason.
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I don't get it.
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And also, rain was sky water, I think.
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Or sky tears.
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What else did they have?
Dan McCoy
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Just like any movie where it's set in another country and they're speaking English, we can
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accept that as an audience.
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We're not like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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What is this, in America or something?
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I feel like we go to see a movie that's 10,000 BC.
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If someone says saber tooth rather than spear tooth, I'm not going to be like, hold on.
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Well, they didn't have sabers, though.
Stuart Wellington
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They had spears.
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You're pulling me out of the story.
Elliott Kalan
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Listen, I'm watching a story about a bunch of cavemen with dreadlocks and one of them
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has a magical white spear and there's a magical old lady who has psychic links to people.
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And if someone says the word saber tooth, it's going to bother me.
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You're saying it was sponsored by National Geographic.
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I'm saying there should have been like time travelers or dinosaurs or aliens or something
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that make this movie interesting.
Stuart Wellington
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Well, time traveling cowboys who battle dinosaurs.
Elliott Kalan
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That would have been great.
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It would have been like the Valley of Gwangi, but with time travel.
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There's so many dreadlocks in this film.
Dan McCoy
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So many dreadlocks.
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I honestly, look.
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Everyone's bald or has dreadlocks.
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Stuart, you and I went to the same college.
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A lot of white guys with dreadlocks.
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Yeah, it's kind of gross.
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It seemed like we, I was watching this movie and I was confused by the lack of hacky sack.
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Let's, let's.
Elliott Kalan
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There was not any hacky sack in 10,000 BC.
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Let's just say these weren't necessarily white guys.
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This was a very multi-ethnic prehistory.
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Well, that was pretty crazy.
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There were, there were very obviously black tribes.
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There were people who seemed sort of Arab or Mediterranean or Semitic in some way.
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Sure, they were bad guys though, right?
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They were the bad guys because that's where bad people come from is that part of the world.
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But then their heroes seemed to be some kind of either.
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Multicultural.
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Dusky skinned white people or maybe lighter skinned African Americans, but not with America.
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Like a real Nixon pot.
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Our heroes, yeah.
Dan McCoy
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Our heroes were like the American dream.
Elliott Kalan
[9:54]
Yes, the American dream of owning your own manic.
Dan McCoy
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There was our Caucasian hero.
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There was our Middle Eastern hero.
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There was our sort of, there was a black hero.
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Asian probably.
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There was a Eurasian hero.
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They were kind of Asian-ish characters.
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Yeah, maybe a Pacific Islander.
Stuart Wellington
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Maybe, maybe a couple of, a couple of like Inuits.
Dan McCoy
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Now I was under the impression that at that time in history, you know.
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Everyone was pretty much the same race.
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Yeah, well the race is sort of like, there were different races for different areas because
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there wasn't a lot of travel, say, between vastly different geographical areas.
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They had boats.
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Yeah, there were boats.
Elliott Kalan
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They didn't have boats.
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They hadn't discovered the wheel yet, but they could have.
Stuart Wellington
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There was a couple four-legged demons.
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Yeah, those were horses.
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Yeah.
Dan McCoy
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They didn't know how to ride horses.
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Oh my God.
Elliott Kalan
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There's a prophecy about a four, they're going to, their village is going to be destroyed
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by four-legged demons.
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And we know it's men on horseback because there's a flash to an image of men on horseback.
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Oh, that's what that was.
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But then when the men on horseback arrive, everyone's like, four-legged demons!
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Oh!
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But there's no sense of awe.
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Like, I've never seen this before.
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Just like, oh yeah, these are the four-legged demons that we got told about.
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Makes sense.
Elliott Kalan
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Clearly.
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Well, let's go.
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There's no, like, no character.
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Now it all is falling into place.
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Let's stop getting murdered.
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The only time the characters ever really seem to be impressed by anything is when they see
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boats.
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And that's, you know, not that impressive.
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Yeah.
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I guess if you've never seen one before.
Dan McCoy
[11:18]
Yeah.
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It's a boat, dude.
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With a big, crazy sail.
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You know, men are, people are drawn to the sea.
Elliott Kalan
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That's what Ishmael has taught me.
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That's true.
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But I was going to say that there was, it was like this weird multi-ethnic prehistory
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to the point where I was kind of expecting a character with a French or an Italian accent
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to come in as the comic relief and be like, you know, the men who have taken our women
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and children, they are there in the large village with the stone mountains.
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And then someone would be like, hey, we gotta get him back and he's a guy, you know, and
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so forth.
Stuart Wellington
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You're like a wisecrank.
Dan McCoy
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I was expecting, we gotta jump on the giant turtles and get them back.
Elliott Kalan
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I was expecting, there were no giant turtles, unfortunately.
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I was expecting like a Frenchman to join in the battle again and stab someone with a
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spear and then go, ho ho, and then run off and do it again.
Stuart Wellington
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That sounds like a Roland Emmerich movie.
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I wish.
[12:10]
He directed The Patriots.
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Yeah, let's talk about this.
Dan McCoy
[12:12]
Roland Emmerich was the director of this, one of the team of people that did Independence
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Day and Godzilla.
Elliott Kalan
[12:18]
But it seemed that, was it Dean Devlin is the other one?
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Yeah.
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He wasn't involved in this.
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Yeah, I'm working in Devlin.
Dan McCoy
[12:22]
No, he was not.
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And from what I can see, Devlin was the talent in that group.
Elliott Kalan
[12:29]
Oh yeah, because the stuff they made together was brilliant.
Dan McCoy
[12:32]
No, I'm just saying.
Elliott Kalan
[12:33]
This was a real Powell and Pressburger team, you know?
Dan McCoy
[12:36]
No.
[12:36]
This was Stanley and Jack Kirby.
Elliott Kalan
[12:38]
Together they captured a magic that neither could recapture.
Dan McCoy
[12:41]
You misunderstand my point entirely, Elliot.
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I'm saying the movies made before that were not great, but were not as shitty as this one.
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This was a real Bob and David team.
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So the good stuff, whatever good stuff was in that earlier film has been wiped out by
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this point.
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So Devlin must have been responsible for whatever tempering to the bad stuff.
Elliott Kalan
[12:59]
I would say your memory of those movies is colored by the fact that you just sat there
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10,000 B.C.
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And not through Godzilla or the Patriot.
Dan McCoy
[13:07]
This is exactly my point.
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I would rather watch Independence Day 100 times before saying 10,000 B.C. again.
Stuart Wellington
[13:14]
I would rather watch the Patriot 10,000 B.C. times than one 10,000 B.C. time.
Elliott Kalan
[13:21]
Not even a joke.
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But it is interesting that I don't know what caused the rift in the Devlin-Emerick relationship.
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But I don't know what Devlin has up his sleeve, but Emmerick is batting.
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He whiffed with this one.
Stuart Wellington
[13:38]
I like to imagine it was like a weird late night T&A comedy or T&A thriller type situation
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where one guy slept with the other guy's wife and he thought he killed him, but he didn't.
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So he came back from the grave to make 10,000 B.C.
Elliott Kalan
[13:52]
I think that's an elaborate backstory for this film.
Dan McCoy
[13:56]
But it sounds good, right?
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I think that the Zucker-Abram-Zucker breakup should figure into this somehow
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and Devlin and Abrams are off somewhere making a film together.
Elliott Kalan
[14:04]
Making some sort of big budget parody CGI movie.
Dan McCoy
[14:09]
Parody of 10,000 B.C. one can only hope.
Elliott Kalan
[14:11]
Yeah, which probably just could be called Caveman movie or something like that.
Dan McCoy
[14:15]
Caveman, starring Ringo Starr.
Elliott Kalan
[14:18]
But here's the thing.
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They make these big action movies.
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They made Godzilla, which has a fair share of action, although it's all bad.
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They made The Patriot, which has some ludicrous action.
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But, you know, Independence Day, which is things blowing up all over the place.
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For like a bit.
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This movie promised big action in its commercials.
Dan McCoy
[14:32]
It promised nothing but mammoth stampede.
Elliott Kalan
[14:35]
Non-stop animal fighting.
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But when you watch it, there's so much of people just wandering around in deserts or mountains.
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There's so much walking in the movie.
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That's the way life was, dude.
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Well, apparently.
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But we didn't need to see all of it.
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They could have gapped that.
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You could have lied to that.
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The fact that...
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Oh, I guess you're right.
Stuart Wellington
[14:49]
Like, in Independence Day...
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I guess you're...
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That's not what life is always like.
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Wait a minute.
Dan McCoy
[14:54]
All those other good movies I see, I don't see a bunch of shots of people walking into cars
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and driving places.
Stuart Wellington
[14:59]
They're not always boring, you know?
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Not even...
[15:03]
What was that movie where Wesley Snipes kills the president?
[15:07]
What?
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1600?
[15:08]
Pennsylvania Avenue?
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Yeah, that movie.
Elliott Kalan
[15:10]
Oh, Murder at 1600.
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Yeah.
[15:12]
That's one of my...
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That's one of my...
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I always want to do a double feature where Dennis Miller plays the jokey sidekick in a thriller,
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and it would be that and The Net as a double feature.
Dan McCoy
[15:21]
I've never seen that movie, but my brother did, like, told me the most hilarious sort of
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summation of that film, wherein Wesley Snipes, in order to clear his name, sneaks into the White
[15:32]
House, and the way he does it is to pretend that he's a janitor and puts his head down
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and whistles as he, like, pushes his thing along.
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He's like, oh, that's not suspicious as well.
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That janitor putting his head...
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Whistling?
[15:44]
Oh.
Stuart Wellington
[15:44]
He must be part of the union.
[15:46]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[15:48]
Yeah, it's a great movie.
Stuart Wellington
[15:49]
So what I was saying is in that movie...
Elliott Kalan
[15:52]
There was a spate of presidential murderer movies for a while.
[15:56]
Murder at 1600, Absolute Power.
Stuart Wellington
[15:58]
Yeah, that was with Gene Hackman.
Elliott Kalan
[16:00]
Yep, that was Gene Hackman and Clint Eastwood.
[16:03]
Clint Eastwood plays a really thief, right?
Stuart Wellington
[16:05]
Yes.
[16:06]
Well, the thing about Passenger 57 is that I learned a really important lesson, and that's
[16:10]
that I should always bet on black.
Elliott Kalan
[16:12]
But once you go black, you don't go back, so just be prepared for that.
Stuart Wellington
[16:15]
Wait, did you learn that in that movie, or was that just in general?
[16:17]
I don't know.
[16:18]
I think I learned that in the school of life.
[16:21]
Oh, okay.
[16:21]
Yeah.
[16:22]
No kidding.
[16:23]
Isn't that the one where the bad guy gets, like, plastic surgery, so Wesley Snipes
[16:29]
doesn't know who he is?
Dan McCoy
[16:30]
I don't remember that part.
[16:33]
I think so.
[16:34]
I mean, they're on a plane.
[16:36]
Let's construct that film in our brains.
[16:39]
Yeah, well, yeah, I would imagine in our brains.
[16:40]
I just remember this parody.
Elliott Kalan
[16:42]
I think it was on Mad TV in one of their earlier...
[16:44]
That sounds great.
[16:45]
That sounds funny.
[16:45]
...where they did Passenger 227, and it was...
[16:47]
What's her name from 227?
[16:49]
Jack A.
[16:50]
In the Wesley Snipes role.
Stuart Wellington
[16:52]
That sounds pretty funny.
[16:53]
Mad TV.
[16:55]
You know, that's good for a laugh.
[16:57]
A larf?
Elliott Kalan
[16:58]
Anyway, so...
[17:00]
2000 BC...
[17:01]
10,000 BC.
[17:02]
I don't even remember what year it took place in.
[17:03]
Oh, God.
[17:04]
Sorry.
[17:05]
But it's like they took...
[17:06]
They obviously did no research whatsoever, except to just make sure that dinosaurs were
[17:11]
dead by then, and they were like, oh, really?
[17:13]
Well, we'll just make a mammoth or something.
Stuart Wellington
[17:15]
Let's just make a predatory bird.
[17:17]
Yeah, let's have giant emus.
Elliott Kalan
[17:19]
Well, I believe they were diatrima or diatrimas.
[17:22]
I don't know what the plural is, but these kind of flightless birds that were not that
[17:25]
tall, but they were pretty tall, and they would eat miniature horses, because that was
[17:29]
the kind of mammal that was around.
Stuart Wellington
[17:31]
Miniature horses would sound pretty cool, but we didn't see any of those, right?
Elliott Kalan
[17:34]
No, we didn't.
[17:35]
We saw regular-sized horses.
[17:36]
That's the other thing, though, is it's like they're implying that these people have
[17:39]
not discovered agriculture yet, but they've invented boats.
[17:44]
They've tamed horses, and they can construct these giant buildings, yet they don't have
[17:48]
the wheel, and they barely have fire.
[17:51]
All these societies at very different levels of development, all living within about a square
[17:57]
mile of each other.
[17:58]
This one group is basically African nomadic tribesmen, but they have brick buildings that
[18:03]
look like English hobbit village-type places.
[18:07]
It's really slapdash thrown together.
[18:10]
They didn't think this world through at all.
Stuart Wellington
[18:12]
Now, you know, I'm watching a movie where you've got a bunch of people living around
[18:17]
in 10,000 B.C.
[18:19]
I would expect more nudity.
[18:21]
Elliot, how much nudity was in this movie?
Elliott Kalan
[18:23]
There was zero nudity.
[18:24]
That's a real downer, right?
[18:25]
I mean, I guess so.
[18:27]
I mean, everybody wore a lot of clothes and makeup, so I don't know.
Stuart Wellington
[18:30]
Yeah, you would think less clothes, more nudity.
[18:34]
But nope, Merlin Emmerich disappointed in me.
[18:36]
Zero hundred percent.
Elliott Kalan
[18:37]
It is rated PG-13.
[18:39]
Yeah, but the thing is, like, as you were talking about when you were watching...
[18:41]
You can't get away with a full frontal woman in a PG-13 movie like you once could when we
[18:48]
were children.
[18:49]
Yeah, like in China.
Stuart Wellington
[18:50]
Yeah, the thing about the movie is that it, like, you said it yourself, like, it probably
[18:54]
played way better in foreign markets.
[18:56]
Those foreign people, they don't give a shit about naked people.
[18:58]
They prefer it.
Elliott Kalan
[18:59]
Well, they just see naked people all the time, though.
[19:01]
If you've ever seen a European movie, you know that people just have sex all over the
[19:04]
place.
[19:05]
If you're a kid, you stumble on people having sex constantly.
Dan McCoy
[19:07]
Like, I mean, in Europe, they're, like, they're strutting about in the nude.
Elliott Kalan
[19:10]
If they see a movie without nudity, they go, oh, what a relief.
[19:14]
How refreshing.
[19:15]
Say it in more of a European accent.
[19:17]
They go, oh, this is a...
[19:20]
Oh, what a fancy sea.
[19:22]
I can't escape on TV.
[19:23]
I am so sick of genitalia.
[19:26]
It's like a vaguely French with Canadian in the middle of it a little bit.
[19:29]
They put their bag out of the side.
[19:30]
They put the bag out...
[19:32]
They brought it into the theater with them down.
Stuart Wellington
[19:34]
They have to straighten their beret because it's popped up off their head.
[19:36]
They take a sip of wine in the theater and then...
[19:38]
Straighten their beret.
Elliott Kalan
[19:41]
Yeah.
[19:41]
Spread a little more beret on there.
[19:43]
And then ride their giant front wheel bicycle home.
[19:46]
Wait, it's old-timey, too?
[19:48]
Yeah.
[19:48]
Oh, by the way, it also...
[19:50]
It's 1887.
[19:51]
Did I forget that?
Dan McCoy
[19:52]
Well, that's fine.
[19:53]
We're traveling through time tonight.
[19:55]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[19:56]
That's the thing.
[19:57]
Like, watching this movie was totally, like...
[19:59]
Like, if I had some kind of, like, a looking glass or, like, a weird, like, mirror or, like,
[20:05]
a thing of water that if I looked into, I could see the past.
[20:09]
That's what watching this movie was like.
[20:10]
It was like looking way back in time and being like,
[20:13]
Oh, my God.
[20:13]
I can see what people were like back then.
[20:15]
Right, Dan?
Elliott Kalan
[20:16]
Yeah, exactly.
[20:17]
I felt like it was like watching a mall security video of the past where it's like,
[20:20]
I can't fast-forward this, but it's so boring.
[20:22]
So much of it was just people walking around.
[20:25]
Not a lot.
[20:26]
There's only so little shoplifting, but there's so much just people browsing.
[20:29]
Why are there so many dreadlocks?
[20:31]
Oh, yeah.
[20:32]
Well, it must have been in the college time.
Dan McCoy
[20:33]
Were there any surprises at the end?
[20:35]
Let's speed forward.
Elliott Kalan
[20:36]
Well, there was a woman who was...
[20:38]
The love interest was killed by an arrow and then brought back through magic.
[20:43]
Because they had magic in the past.
[20:45]
Yeah.
[20:45]
The biggest surprise for me was that Omar Sharif was the narrator of the movie.
[20:48]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[20:49]
Yeah, we learned during the credits.
Elliott Kalan
[20:51]
There is a lot of narration on this movie.
[20:53]
This is a movie that is read to you.
[20:55]
It is like...
Stuart Wellington
[20:55]
Well, you feel like you're a little kid being read to by your Jewish grandfather.
Elliott Kalan
[21:00]
Yeah.
[21:00]
But he's telling you a really terrible story about like...
[21:03]
How about we didn't have a lot of turnips in the old country, but sometimes here's how
[21:07]
we found extra turnips.
[21:09]
And like we would buy a turnip, but it wasn't that good.
[21:12]
So we'd have to find ways to make the turnip eatable, edible, like with salt, or maybe like
[21:17]
with wrapped in herring, like that kind of story.
[21:19]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[21:19]
And you...
[21:20]
That's a good story.
[21:21]
Played by Fred Savage in my imagination, you are pretending to be asleep.
[21:24]
You're like, please...
Elliott Kalan
[21:25]
Yeah, my grandpa leaves so I can play my wizard video game.
[21:28]
I'm talking.
Stuart Wellington
[21:29]
Yep, where I use the power glove to defeat Mario.
[21:32]
Yes.
Dan McCoy
[21:33]
Where I have a sneak preview of Super Mario 3.
[21:36]
Oh my god.
Stuart Wellington
[21:37]
The trick there is getting the raccoon tail.
Dan McCoy
[21:39]
Yeah.
[21:40]
By the way, in retrospect, I guess the reason that the wizard won in The Wizard is that
[21:47]
the evil kid was using the power glove to play that game.
[21:50]
Which is a terrible controller.
[21:52]
Yeah.
[21:52]
An awful purple...
[21:53]
He might as well have been using U-Force.
Elliott Kalan
[21:55]
Yeah, but look...
[21:55]
Or like Gyro-Bot.
[21:57]
The robot.
[21:58]
Rob.
[21:58]
He's like, look at this.
[21:59]
I got my special...
[22:00]
I got my special...
[22:01]
Got something up my sleeve, and he just sticks Rob down with the stackable discs that he
[22:05]
came with.
[22:06]
He's got a gyroscope in him.
[22:08]
It looks like he's got this competition in his pocket.
Stuart Wellington
[22:11]
Like, he's not even playing the robot play.
Elliott Kalan
[22:14]
It's like...
[22:15]
He goes...
[22:16]
He goes...
[22:17]
Listen, I got...
[22:18]
You're just playing with a bad boy now.
[22:20]
Let me get my virtual boy.
[22:21]
And sticks his head in that giant, heavy headset.
[22:24]
Well, that's the thing.
Stuart Wellington
[22:25]
Like, how did he connect that power glove to an arcade machine?
[22:29]
Because he did at least once or twice.
Elliott Kalan
[22:30]
Well, I mean, he probably, you know, played around with the circuit board.
[22:33]
Probably a USB port or something.
Dan McCoy
[22:35]
Ultimately, though, the point is that the girl in that grew up to be Jenny Lewis, the singer
[22:41]
for Rilo Kylie.
[22:43]
Okay.
Elliott Kalan
[22:43]
Those are names I've heard, I guess.
[22:45]
Something came out of that.
Dan McCoy
[22:46]
I've heard that name.
[22:47]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[22:48]
Yeah, she's a redhead.
[22:49]
Riley Ace of Spies, I've heard of.
[22:51]
Sure.
[22:52]
Sure.
[22:53]
Riley Sharps Rifles.
[22:54]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[22:56]
Wait, are you just saying she's cute because she's a redhead?
[22:58]
Because that's too common.
Elliott Kalan
[22:59]
Tell you what, they didn't have a lot of redheads in this movie, 10,000 BC.
[23:03]
That's true.
Stuart Wellington
[23:03]
They had a lot of people with dreadlocks.
Elliott Kalan
[23:05]
A lot of people with dreadlocks.
[23:06]
Not a lot of blondes.
[23:07]
Not a lot of redheads.
Stuart Wellington
[23:07]
I think there's only one female character other than the weird old, like, witch.
[23:11]
That's why everyone wanted her.
Elliott Kalan
[23:12]
Oh, clearly.
[23:13]
Oh, my God.
[23:14]
There was a big art fight over the woman.
[23:16]
How was it?
[23:17]
Everybody wanted the girl.
[23:19]
It was a shortage of women because they didn't know how to make them yet.
[23:22]
Yeah, exactly.
[23:23]
They just kept making dudes.
[23:25]
They didn't figure out the secret formula.
Dan McCoy
[23:27]
That's why all the dudes looked weird.
[23:29]
Like, they were sculpting on the clothes, right?
[23:31]
Yeah, exactly.
[23:32]
To make women, the girl has to be on top when you have sex.
[23:36]
That's just science.
[23:37]
But they didn't have science back then.
Stuart Wellington
[23:38]
Yeah.
[23:39]
They had magic, and magic doesn't make girls.
[23:42]
It makes dead old ladies.
Elliott Kalan
[23:44]
Yeah.
[23:45]
Oh, Jesus Christ.
[23:47]
10,000 BC.
[23:47]
I've never, I thought after premonition we could never, or we could never be less interested
[23:52]
in a movie while watching it.
[23:53]
No.
[23:53]
But this one really, almost instantly, we were just not.
Dan McCoy
[23:56]
Yeah, let's just skip to the end.
[23:57]
Let's skip to the end.
[23:58]
Let's not.
Elliott Kalan
[23:59]
We were just captured by this spell of disinterest.
Dan McCoy
[24:03]
Yeah, no.
[24:04]
We are, we are, we've talked plenty about this movie, I believe.
Elliott Kalan
[24:07]
Well, we could bring up a couple more.
[24:09]
We could probably talk about some more shit.
[24:10]
Oh, Jesus.
[24:11]
How bad the computer effects were.
Stuart Wellington
[24:13]
Oh, they were really bad.
[24:14]
Those mammoths around people?
[24:16]
Mannics.
Elliott Kalan
[24:17]
Well, mammoths.
[24:18]
Wait, what's a manic?
[24:19]
It's a mammoth.
Dan McCoy
[24:21]
Mannics?
[24:22]
The 1970s?
[24:23]
Not Mannics.
Stuart Wellington
[24:23]
No, the other thing was anytime they'd be like running across like the hills when it was
[24:27]
daytime, it totally looked like they were running in front of a big fake painting.
Elliott Kalan
[24:31]
Yeah.
[24:31]
Which they probably, that's the, it did, the first couple scenes did look like they were
[24:35]
shot on location at the Museum of Natural History in New York.
[24:38]
And like, you were worried that like, someone would walk too far and they'd bump into the
[24:42]
painted sky that was inches away from them.
[24:45]
And then they'd like knock over a stuffed rhinoceros that Teddy Roosevelt shot or something.
Dan McCoy
[24:50]
Yeah, that would be better, that would be a better movie, especially if they like walked
[24:53]
into another diorama.
[24:54]
Well, especially since.
Elliott Kalan
[24:55]
Now we're in Roman times.
[24:57]
Especially, well there is no Roman, and this is my problem with Night at the Museum.
[25:00]
The exterior is very clearly the Museum of Natural History, but the interior looks nothing
[25:04]
like it.
[25:05]
And there's no Roman section at the Museum of Natural History.
[25:08]
What's, come on.
[25:10]
There's early people's exhibits and a few foreign cultures.
Dan McCoy
[25:13]
Yeah, no, am I familiar?
Elliott Kalan
[25:14]
They could have easily gone to the Hall of Asian Peoples or, you know.
Dan McCoy
[25:17]
Best as I can recall the Museum of Natural History, it's a lot of taxiderming animals.
Elliott Kalan
[25:22]
Well, among other things, it's an amazing place.
[25:24]
I'm just saying the movie doesn't do it justice.
[25:26]
There's no Hall of Miniatures or something like that.
Stuart Wellington
[25:30]
A Hall of Little Owen Wilson.
Dan McCoy
[25:32]
So wait, wait, wait.
[25:32]
You're telling me that Ben Stiller was in a bad film?
Elliott Kalan
[25:36]
I'm not saying it's necessarily, that makes it bad.
[25:38]
I'm just saying it makes it inaccurate in a way that I can't.
[25:40]
Well, it's one of those, you know, it happens all the time when you live in a city like New
[25:43]
York where there's a lot of locations that are used for movies where it's like, they'll
[25:47]
show you the exterior of Grand Central Station.
[25:50]
And then, you know, Josiah in Shreveport, bumfuck, doesn't know what the inside of that building
[26:02]
looks like.
[26:02]
Josiah is one of our biggest fans.
[26:03]
So they just shoot it on, I'm sorry, Josiah.
[26:06]
And bumfuck is a beautiful county.
[26:10]
They just, they shoot like any old place, but they show you the exterior.
[26:14]
It's pronounced bombfuck.
[26:15]
It's the same, it's irritating in the same way that Woody Allen movie is irritating where
[26:20]
it's like, oh, I just quit my job as a typist to become an actor.
[26:24]
My savings are over.
[26:25]
I'll just walk through my 10,000 square foot loft.
[26:29]
You're a re-side apartment.
[26:30]
With two levels, you know.
[26:32]
And then go to the opera tomorrow night.
[26:34]
And then I'll have dinner at Elaine's.
[26:37]
A restaurant for old people.
Dan McCoy
[26:39]
You can't, you can't do that.
Elliott Kalan
[26:41]
Usually not on the out-of-work actor's salary.
[26:44]
Okay, thanks, Elaine.
[26:45]
So, uh, we're not.
[26:47]
When you whisper into it and it suddenly becomes like a psychology late night show.
Stuart Wellington
[26:51]
So, guys, I don't know if you knew this, but we're done talking about 10,000 B.C.
[26:54]
Oh, we are?
[26:55]
Because it sucked.
Dan McCoy
[26:55]
Okay.
[26:56]
So.
[26:56]
I'm happy with that.
[26:57]
Let's move on.
Elliott Kalan
[26:58]
Let's move on to modern day.
Stuart Wellington
[27:00]
Oh, okay.
[27:01]
So, wait.
[27:02]
Okay, so we're in the process of traveling.
[27:04]
We're going.
[27:04]
Oh, wait.
[27:05]
Here's, wait.
[27:05]
We're 9,000.
[27:05]
One last thing before, as we're on the go.
Elliott Kalan
[27:07]
7,000.
[27:08]
No one in the movie ever said, the year is 10,000 B.C.
[27:12]
And I wanted them to say that to someone.
[27:13]
Just because, like, it's so inaccurate, you kind of have to do it.
Stuart Wellington
[27:16]
At that point, they've got a 50%.
Dan McCoy
[27:18]
Right.
[27:18]
If they can't even do that.
[27:20]
Yeah.
[27:21]
I remember 10,000 years before Christ.
Elliott Kalan
[27:24]
Mm-hmm.
[27:25]
Oh, I wish, actually, I wish the movie opened with young Jesus Christ being taught, being told a story by Joseph.
[27:31]
And he goes, Dad, when did this story take place?
[27:36]
It took place 10,000 years before you were born.
[27:40]
And then the end framing sequence is it comes back with Jesus on the cross.
Dan McCoy
[27:44]
And he's like, should have listened to my dad's story.
Elliott Kalan
[27:47]
I probably wouldn't be in this jam right now.
Dan McCoy
[27:50]
All the lessons I needed to learn.
Stuart Wellington
[27:52]
If I had only paid attention.
Elliott Kalan
[27:54]
Those plucky cavemen.
[27:55]
Well.
Stuart Wellington
[27:55]
Yeah, they learned a lot about brotherhood.
[27:58]
And how magic can save their girlfriends.
Elliott Kalan
[28:00]
Yeah, well, just to drive home that it was 10,000 B.C.
[28:03]
They should open it.
[28:04]
And then it's just 10,000 years earlier.
[28:08]
10,000 years before this joke.
Dan McCoy
[28:10]
Or it was like an episode of fucking Alias.
[28:13]
It starts out with a teaser.
[28:14]
It's like 24 hours before.
Elliott Kalan
[28:17]
Or just like it shows a guy getting late.
[28:20]
This is a movie I want to make now.
[28:22]
Where like a guy wakes up late.
[28:23]
And he's like struggling to get ready for work.
[28:25]
And brushing his teeth.
[28:26]
He runs out while pulling his jacket on.
[28:28]
Just misses the train.
[28:29]
And goes like, oh, damn it.
[28:31]
And then it just says, 5,000 years earlier.
[28:34]
And the movie is about cave people.
[28:37]
Or about like ancient Semitic tribes or something like that.
[28:40]
That would be so great.
[28:41]
Because people forget that it happened in the same world, you know?
[28:44]
Yeah, no, I got it.
[28:45]
The guy's late for a train in 2018.
Stuart Wellington
[28:48]
And another guy's late for attacking a spear tooth.
[28:52]
Yeah, exactly.
Elliott Kalan
[28:53]
No, we don't even draw that close to parallel.
[28:55]
It's just.
[28:56]
And then at the end it says, 17,000 years later.
[28:59]
And it's like just a wasteland or something like that.
[29:02]
Just leave him depressed at the end.
[29:04]
You know, nuclear weapon went off or something.
Stuart Wellington
[29:06]
No, you could have mutants or cyborgs or something.
[29:09]
Or cyborg dinosaurs.
Elliott Kalan
[29:10]
That would have been great if it said.
[29:11]
If like the movie abruptly stopped.
[29:14]
And then it said.
[29:14]
Like the Bratz film.
[29:15]
Yeah.
[29:16]
It said, 13,000 years later.
[29:19]
And it's like cyborgs fighting people.
[29:21]
And basically it becomes the Terminator movies.
[29:23]
Pew, pew, pew, pew, pew.
[29:23]
In fact, I'm going to say right now, this is a prequel to Terminator.
Stuart Wellington
[29:27]
No.
[29:27]
I would imagine.
[29:28]
Roland Emmerich probably directed.
[29:30]
No, McG directed the new Terminator movie.
[29:32]
Oh, he's really?
[29:33]
Yeah, that's what it's going to be.
[29:34]
It's going to be terrible.
[29:34]
It's going to be really good, I bet.
Dan McCoy
[29:35]
Charlie's Angels and McG.
[29:36]
It's going to be awful.
[29:39]
Torque.
[29:39]
Fastlanes.
[29:40]
McG.
[29:41]
No, no.
[29:41]
Fastlanes.
[29:42]
Yeah, you're right.
[29:43]
I just wanted to say Torque.
Elliott Kalan
[29:44]
And he was going to direct Superman, but it didn't happen.
[29:47]
No, that's too bad.
[29:48]
That's the one where Lex Luthor is a government agent investigating this spaceship that landed
[29:54]
years before.
[29:55]
And then at the end he goes, there was another spaceship that landed.
[29:59]
You know who was it?
[30:00]
It was it.
[30:00]
Me.
[30:01]
And flies up into space.
[30:02]
And then Superman and Lex Luthor were supposed to have a flying kung fu battle.
[30:06]
Really?
[30:06]
Oh, this was the McG version of Superman.
Dan McCoy
[30:08]
Lex Luthor was going to turn out to be an alien.
Elliott Kalan
[30:10]
Yeah, according to, you know, Ain't It Cool News or something.
Stuart Wellington
[30:12]
That sounds like it would have been pretty good.
[30:14]
Better than the movie that came out.
[30:15]
Well, it would have had fighting in it at least.
[30:16]
Let's, uh, no kidding.
[30:18]
So, uh, 10,000 BC, it sounds like...
Elliott Kalan
[30:22]
Okay, we're done talking about it now.
Stuart Wellington
[30:23]
What were we going to say?
[30:24]
I was just going to say, it sounds like we got a pretty positive review.
[30:27]
No, no.
[30:29]
Spoiler alert!
Elliott Kalan
[30:29]
You would be wrong.
[30:30]
Let me tell you, the fact that every movie we've seen since the Bratz movie has not been
[30:34]
as good or fun as the Bratz movie is insane.
Dan McCoy
[30:39]
I don't know.
[30:39]
Yeah, no.
[30:39]
The Bratz movie, for me, has probably been the pinnacle of this podcast.
Elliott Kalan
[30:44]
I like everything on the scale of as good or Bratz were worse than Bratz.
Dan McCoy
[30:48]
From one to Bratz, yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[30:50]
From zero to Bratz.
[30:52]
Because Bratz is like a 0.5.
[30:54]
So, like, zero to Bratz.
Dan McCoy
[30:55]
Yeah, this is a minus 0.12.
[30:59]
Uh...
[31:00]
That's a very specific rating.
Stuart Wellington
[31:02]
That's nowhere even close to the normal, like, ratings we give movies, Dan.
Elliott Kalan
[31:07]
Dan, I can't wait to see when you start reviewing movies for the New York Post and it's like,
[31:10]
I give this movie 1.249 stars.
[31:14]
I give this movie pi stars to the fourth power.
[31:17]
I give this movie...
[31:18]
...to the fourth place.
Dan McCoy
[31:19]
0.33 repeating stars.
Stuart Wellington
[31:23]
Okay, so, Dan, what are the ratings?
Dan McCoy
[31:26]
The ratings are, is this a bad movie that you would not recommend for anyone?
[31:32]
Okay.
[31:32]
A bad movie that's a funny bad movie?
[31:35]
Hmm, okay.
[31:36]
Or a movie that you kind of like in some way?
[31:39]
Unlikely at this point.
[31:40]
So, Stuart, you seem to have a strong opinion.
[31:43]
What would you say about this movie?
Stuart Wellington
[31:46]
The first one was one that I didn't like.
[31:48]
You didn't like at all.
[31:49]
Yeah, this movie is terrible, dude.
[31:51]
I'm so bored.
[31:52]
I almost fell asleep.
Elliott Kalan
[31:53]
You got up and were dancing at one point.
Stuart Wellington
[31:55]
I did get up and dance.
[31:56]
You danced when the movie ended.
Elliott Kalan
[31:57]
No, there were still 15 minutes left in that movie.
[32:00]
No way.
Stuart Wellington
[32:00]
It was right when the magic saved the girl.
[32:02]
Oh, okay.
[32:03]
Of course I danced, because the magic's always awesome.
[32:05]
I'll tell you this.
Elliott Kalan
[32:06]
The one great thing about the movie was Dan read the time, the running time, somewhere,
[32:11]
and it said 109 minutes.
[32:12]
And so at an hour 37 minutes, I was like, oh, there's still 12 minutes left.
[32:17]
And then the credits came up, and it was like, yay!
[32:20]
This is great!
Stuart Wellington
[32:21]
It's shorter than we thought.
[32:22]
It was when Dan read the time, and it was like about 50 minutes in.
[32:26]
We're like, what the fuck?
Dan McCoy
[32:27]
There's another hour to this?
[32:29]
We're not even halfway through this fucking thing.
[32:31]
But it turned out we were.
[32:32]
Yeah, well, now I feel good.
[32:34]
What are we, like four hours into this film?
[32:36]
What's going on?
[32:37]
Yeah, that was witty.
[32:39]
Shut up.
[32:39]
I'm going to punch you in the ear.
Stuart Wellington
[32:41]
Okay, so my review.
[32:44]
I didn't like it very much, sorry.
[32:46]
Elliot?
Elliott Kalan
[32:47]
I would recommend this movie to people who are trying to get off the couch and motivate
[32:51]
themselves to clean out their garage, because after a couple minutes, you're like, there's
[32:56]
some things I need to do right now, aren't there?
[32:58]
Maybe I should go get the lint out from behind the dryer.
[33:01]
Go hunt down a manic.
[33:04]
You start thinking like, I don't know if I need all those old magazines in the basement.
[33:08]
Maybe I'll go through them now and look through and see which ones I'll keep.
Dan McCoy
[33:11]
Sure, they're fire hazard, so better get ready.
Elliott Kalan
[33:13]
Oh, maybe it's time to repave the drive.
[33:15]
I think I'll do that now.
Dan McCoy
[33:17]
Wow.
[33:18]
That's pretty easy.
[33:19]
This is a terrible movie.
[33:20]
Yeah.
[33:21]
No, I gotta agree.
[33:23]
My main problem with this movie is it seems hard to fuck up.
[33:27]
I mean, like, it seems easy to fuck up.
[33:29]
To be fair, there have been a lot of bad caveman movies.
[33:31]
No, no, no.
[33:32]
All right.
[33:32]
Let me finish.
[33:33]
It seems easy to fuck up, but it seems easy to fuck up in an entertaining way.
[33:37]
Yeah, that's true.
[33:38]
Like, you imagine, okay, all right, it's a bad movie about prehistory.
[33:43]
I mean, it's not really a caveman movie.
[33:44]
It's a little past that, but still.
[33:46]
Let's say it's a caveman movie.
[33:48]
You think of a caveman movie.
[33:49]
You think of a movie with woolly mammoths in it.
[33:52]
Yeah.
[33:52]
And you're like, all right, as stupid as it's going to be, it's going to be pretty funny.
[33:56]
Like, there's going to be zany woolly mammoth hunting antics in it.
Elliott Kalan
[34:01]
Someone's going to wear a fur bikini.
[34:02]
Yeah, no, it's going to be fun.
[34:04]
From the original Teenage Caveman with Robert Vaughn to Larry Clark's Teenage Caveman remake,
[34:09]
those movies are hilariously bad.
[34:11]
Yeah, but this movie was...
[34:12]
Encino Man?
[34:14]
Yeah.
[34:14]
What I like about Encino Man is that I want Brendan Fraser to complete the trilogy of Man Out of Time movies.
[34:21]
Encino Man, Blast from the Past, where's his one where he's a guy from the future who comes back and doesn't understand?
Dan McCoy
[34:27]
Brendan, balls in your court.
Elliott Kalan
[34:29]
Get out of the center of the earth.
Dan McCoy
[34:32]
But my point is just that, you know, I was expecting some cheesy fun.
[34:36]
Certainly based on the trailer, I thought I would just be like, oh, there's just going to be a bunch of CGI prehistoric monsters attacking.
[34:43]
No.
[34:44]
It's all prophecies.
[34:46]
It's all walking around.
[34:48]
It's all slave children.
[34:49]
It's all you're the chosen one.
[34:52]
And it's just incredibly dull.
[34:55]
Yeah, it's very boring.
[34:56]
So don't watch this movie.
[34:57]
Please.
[34:58]
Please don't.
[34:58]
Learn from our mistake.
[35:00]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[35:01]
Yeah, that was terrible.
[35:02]
Speaking of which, Brendan Fraser, we better do the mummy Tomb of the Dragon Emperor when it's on DVD.
[35:06]
You better believe it.
[35:08]
It has the line in it, I hate mummies.
Stuart Wellington
[35:10]
Which is so perfect.
[35:13]
Well, it's tough in a trailer because you're making the audience be like, you know what?
Dan McCoy
[35:18]
I don't like mummies that much either.
Elliott Kalan
[35:20]
Why would I go see this movie?
[35:22]
The character who says it is his comedy sidekick who in the first mummy movie didn't believe in mummies.
[35:27]
So when I saw that line, I was like, this character has had a real character arc throughout this series of not believing in mummies through being so experienced with them that he knows he doesn't like them.
Dan McCoy
[35:35]
To be fair, you watch the trailer and you're like, that line was meant to be tongue in cheek.
[35:40]
Yeah.
[35:40]
However, it's delivered in such a way.
[35:43]
Yeah, that it's not.
[35:44]
That any sexual humor is like.
Stuart Wellington
[35:45]
Like, oh, audience, remember, this character hates mummies.
Dan McCoy
[35:48]
Remember?
[35:49]
Remember the series is about mummies.
[35:51]
It's in the title of the series.
Elliott Kalan
[35:52]
Remember, even though it looks like they're just fighting terracotta warriors?
[35:55]
And Jelly.
[35:56]
Those are mummies.
[35:57]
And Jelly.
Dan McCoy
[35:57]
Jelly doesn't look anything like a mummy.
[35:58]
And a dragon.
[35:59]
Remember?
[35:59]
The mummy?
[36:00]
And then the mummy returned.
[36:02]
Oh, yeah, there's a dragon.
[36:02]
And then the mummy tombed of the drabid warriors.
[36:04]
And the scorpion king.
[36:06]
Oh, yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[36:07]
The scorpion king belonged to the line.
[36:07]
I love that the mummy movies, they felt, were strong enough to spin off the kind of semi-villain of one of them into the hero of his own, Conan the Barbarian.
[36:16]
And that Dwayne Johnson.
[36:18]
The Rock Johnson.
[36:19]
Was such a huge star that he was going to pull this off.
Dan McCoy
[36:21]
Michael Clarke Duncan was in that, too.
Elliott Kalan
[36:23]
Elliot, he can raise one eyebrow independent of the other eyebrow.
[36:26]
It was basically Conan the Barbarian.
[36:27]
Michael Clarke Duncan was James Earl Jones.
[36:29]
Yeah, sure.
[36:29]
Because they're both large African-American men.
Stuart Wellington
[36:32]
So he was Thulsa Doom?
Elliott Kalan
[36:34]
Yes.
[36:35]
I didn't watch Scorpion.
[36:37]
I don't remember if he was a hero or a villain in Scorpion.
Stuart Wellington
[36:39]
So that would be difficult to relate him to Thulsa Doom because he was pretty much a villain in that movie.
Dan McCoy
[36:43]
It's true, yeah.
[36:44]
Well, let's not talk about spin-offs that no one watched.
[36:47]
Let's talk about movies that we actually want to recommend to people.
[36:49]
Okay.
[36:51]
Elliot, have you seen a movie of late that you would actually recommend in contrast to 10,000 B.C.?
Elliott Kalan
[36:56]
I haven't actually seen too many movies lately, unfortunately, due to various movings around and things.
[37:04]
But I'll tell you one movie I saw that was great.
[37:06]
I don't want to step on your guys' toes if you were going to suggest this.
[37:09]
But Pixar's latest film, WALL-E, everyone seems to know by now, is amazing.
Dan McCoy
[37:14]
Not an underrated choice.
Elliott Kalan
[37:16]
This is in no way an underrated gem that is overlooked.
[37:22]
I would agree.
[37:22]
I thought it was really great.
Dan McCoy
[37:23]
I thought it was fantastic.
[37:25]
Thank you.
[37:27]
I don't know why I said that.
[37:27]
I didn't make it.
[37:28]
Thank you for backing up my recommendation of an amazing cartoon movie.
[37:32]
We've got Andrew Stanton on here.
[37:34]
We've called him Elliot Kalin, but it's director of WALL-E.
Elliott Kalan
[37:39]
But other than that, I watched a movie.
[37:41]
I watched Vanishing Point recently, but I was kind of disappointed by it.
[37:44]
The original?
Stuart Wellington
[37:44]
Yeah.
[37:45]
Yeah, it's a little disappointing.
Elliott Kalan
[37:47]
A little slow.
[37:48]
It's also, well, it's one of those movies where, like...
Dan McCoy
[37:49]
You just have a naked woman riding around on a motorcycle for a very, very, very long time.
Elliott Kalan
[37:55]
Yeah, to the point where it becomes boring.
Dan McCoy
[37:57]
Yeah, you're like, all right, get off the motorcycle and put a robe on, please.
Elliott Kalan
[38:02]
Put something on so that I can imagine what you look like, and that'll be hotter.
[38:05]
But there's one of those movies also that was made in the late 60s, early 70s, kind of through the late 70s, early 80s,
[38:12]
where it's like, this guy plays by his own rules.
[38:15]
He's the spirit of freedom.
[38:17]
Like, the man's trying to put him down, but he's trying to live his life.
[38:20]
But he's a reckless driver who endangers dozens, if not hundreds of people.
[38:23]
Yeah, there's only particularly sympathetic about him.
[38:25]
The movie opens with him about to drive through a roadblock,
[38:31]
and then it flashes back to him picking up some speed pills
[38:33]
so that he can zoom around on the public highways and screw up family vacations and stuff.
[38:40]
It was hard for me to find him and be sympathetic.
[38:42]
Yeah, that was his main goal, screwing up family vacations.
[38:44]
He was just looking for station wagons that he could knock off the road.
[38:47]
Going to the shore?
[38:48]
Not anymore.
[38:49]
Also, I don't know why.
[38:50]
He's supposed to deliver a white Challenger from Denver to San Francisco,
[38:54]
and the car keeps getting really dirty and banged up during the trip.
[38:58]
And I just kept thinking, the guy who bought that Challenger isn't going to want to take it.
[39:01]
It's so dirty now, and it's so banged up from all his misadventures.
[39:04]
It's not worth all the effort is what you're saying.
[39:06]
Yes, pretty much.
[39:07]
But, I mean, the movie had some good scenes in it,
[39:09]
and it's very much a capsule of its time.
[39:11]
You can hear the lyrics to Mississippi Queen very clearly.
[39:15]
So, you know, if you ever wanted to know what those are.
[39:18]
Sure.
[39:18]
But Wally was great.
[39:19]
Stuart, do you have anything?
Stuart Wellington
[39:21]
Yeah, I don't know.
[39:23]
I watched People Under the Stairs recently, and that was really good.
[39:30]
Because it was really weird.
[39:31]
I'd seen it before.
[39:32]
You watched the movie, The People Under the Stairs.
[39:34]
Yeah, I didn't watch The People Under the Stairs, like, eat a human or something.
[39:37]
That would have been weird.
[39:38]
The people in your apartment who live under the stairs.
[39:40]
Yeah, that would have been fucking crazy.
[39:43]
And, I don't know.
[39:45]
I watched the show Dexter recently, and that kind of sucked.
[39:48]
And then I watched the movie.
[39:50]
Again, you don't really understand the concept.
[39:52]
I know.
[39:52]
I'm trying to figure it out.
[39:53]
I watched The Tripper, the movie where there's this.
[39:58]
David Arquette.
[39:59]
The guy in the Ronald Reagan mask?
[40:00]
Yeah.
[40:01]
Well, kind of.
[40:02]
He's got, it seems more than just a mask.
[40:04]
I mean, it's pretty good makeup.
[40:05]
I just saw the posters.
[40:07]
Where Thomas Jane with a mustache beats up a guy in Ronald Reagan makeup.
[40:12]
And, I don't know.
[40:14]
I guess that was okay.
Dan McCoy
[40:16]
So, you said The Tripper.
[40:17]
Is that your recommendation?
[40:18]
Yeah, I was hanging out with.
[40:20]
If we're going to take one thing away from what you say.
[40:23]
Well, yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[40:23]
I mean, I liked Hellboy 2, but I don't think that's underrated in any way.
[40:27]
So, I'm going to go with.
[40:29]
Yeah, if you feel like watching The Tripper, yeah, you can do it.
[40:32]
I did it.
Dan McCoy
[40:34]
Stuart gives you permission to watch The Tripper.
[40:35]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[40:36]
You can imagine you're me hanging out with my dog, Rusty, who has three legs.
Dan McCoy
[40:41]
Yeah, Stuart has a dog that has three legs, everyone.
[40:44]
That's a piece of news for you.
Elliott Kalan
[40:45]
It's pretty amazing, I guess.
Dan McCoy
[40:47]
Kind of.
[40:48]
That's science.
Elliott Kalan
[40:50]
You know what?
[40:50]
I'm also going to recommend The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp.
[40:52]
There you go.
[40:53]
That's a movie a lot of people probably haven't seen.
[40:54]
So, done.
[40:55]
Sure.
[40:56]
You've probably seen WALL-E.
[40:57]
You might have seen Vanishing Point.
[40:59]
I don't think you've seen The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp.
[41:01]
It's very good.
[41:02]
All right.
Dan McCoy
[41:05]
I watched recently.
[41:06]
Are you laughing?
[41:07]
I know Colonel Blimp.
[41:09]
I know.
Elliott Kalan
[41:09]
I'm just trying to think of a movie I actually saw recently that people wouldn't have heard
[41:13]
of that they would like.
Dan McCoy
[41:16]
I watched Sunshine recently.
[41:19]
The science fiction one?
[41:21]
The science fiction film.
[41:21]
Or the three generations of a European Jewish family one?
[41:23]
Yeah.
[41:23]
The science fiction.
[41:24]
The Danny Boyle film.
[41:27]
That was.
[41:28]
Wait.
[41:29]
Is that the one with Sylvester Sloan or is that Daylight?
[41:31]
That's Daylight.
[41:33]
Okay.
[41:33]
That's a movie about getting trapped in a tunnel.
[41:35]
Okay.
[41:36]
I'm talking about the one about restarting the sun with a nuclear bomb starring Cillian
[41:41]
Murphy.
[41:42]
So Sylvester Sloan isn't in that one?
[41:44]
No.
[41:44]
Okay.
[41:45]
Unless he played like the ship.
[41:47]
Like the voice of the ship and I didn't realize it.
Elliott Kalan
[41:49]
That's not the John Sayles movie about the sheriff, right?
Dan McCoy
[41:52]
No.
[41:52]
That's Lone Star.
[41:53]
Oh.
[41:53]
Okay.
[41:54]
You're thinking of Lone Star.
Elliott Kalan
[41:55]
I got mixed up with Lone Star, the cartoon about the space cowboy from when we were kids.
[41:59]
I was just thinking of space.
Dan McCoy
[42:01]
Sure.
[42:01]
No, but I watched Sunshine, a movie that was not a forgotten movie by any means, but I
[42:08]
don't think it was a big hit either.
[42:10]
It kind of passed under the radar.
[42:12]
It came and it went.
[42:13]
And I really liked it.
[42:14]
I really liked it, honestly.
Elliott Kalan
[42:17]
Is it a, was this what I got from the advertisements, was that it was a more positive version of Event
[42:22]
Horizon?
[42:23]
It was a version of.
[42:25]
That sounds great.
Dan McCoy
[42:26]
Tell me more.
[42:26]
It was a version of Event Horizon that made much more sense.
[42:31]
Oh, okay.
[42:31]
Like, my problem with Event Horizon is like...
[42:33]
Sam Neill?
Elliott Kalan
[42:34]
No.
[42:35]
Sam Neill rips his own eyes out.
[42:36]
That's amazing.
[42:37]
My problem with Event Horizon...
[42:39]
We're going with our beat eyes.
Dan McCoy
[42:39]
And I've said this before.
Elliott Kalan
[42:41]
I don't think he actually says that.
[42:42]
He says that, I think.
[42:43]
Does he?
[42:43]
I think he's just quoting Back to the Future then.
Dan McCoy
[42:47]
It's really weird.
[42:48]
My problem with Event Horizon, and I've said this before, is like, all right, fine.
[42:51]
Haunted house movie in space.
[42:53]
Fine.
[42:53]
Whatever.
[42:54]
However...
[42:54]
I got it.
[42:55]
Whatever.
[42:55]
Chill out.
[42:57]
Stop with the scares.
[42:58]
All right, movie.
[42:59]
Let it go.
[43:00]
I understand your premise.
[43:01]
A horror movie has to have some internal logic to it.
Elliott Kalan
[43:07]
Not if it's an Argento film.
Dan McCoy
[43:09]
Well, I hate fucking Argento movies.
Elliott Kalan
[43:11]
Not if it's in outer space.
[43:13]
Good point.
[43:13]
Logic doesn't work in space.
Dan McCoy
[43:14]
My point is, like, if a movie's just like...
[43:17]
You know what?
[43:18]
That's why all those...
Stuart Wellington
[43:18]
This is a scary image.
[43:20]
You know what?
[43:20]
Here's another scary image.
[43:22]
You know what?
[43:23]
This is scary, too.
Dan McCoy
[43:24]
And they have no connection to each other.
[43:25]
I'm like, that's not scary.
[43:26]
That's stupid.
[43:26]
You've never been into space, I think.
[43:28]
All right.
[43:29]
That's true.
[43:29]
You got me there.
[43:30]
Everything happens like crazy all the time.
[43:33]
But no, Sunshine, you know, like, it's a movie that actually does not start out.
[43:38]
I mean, it basically just starts out as a science fiction movie and sort of like a meditative science fiction movie.
[43:44]
But ultimately, it actually kind of becomes a horror movie.
[43:46]
It's more than just a horror movie, but it becomes one.
[43:49]
But it has one thing in common with one of my favorite horror movies of recent years, which is The Descent.
[43:56]
Oh, okay.
[43:56]
Which is that before the real horror of the film starts, the setup is already scary.
[44:05]
Like in The Descent, where, you know, like, okay, we're trapped in a cave-in in these uncharted caves, and then troglodytes come out.
[44:17]
Like, before you add the troglodytes, it's pretty already a scary scenario.
Stuart Wellington
[44:21]
Yeah, but when you add trogs in there, that shit gets scary, man.
Dan McCoy
[44:24]
Yeah, and this movie, you know, it's like, okay, we're in a ship that's going to the sun, and if we screw up at all and don't have, like, the sun shield in front of us, we're going to burn up.
[44:34]
That's already, like, a very tense situation.
[44:37]
Sure.
[44:37]
And then add, like, this, like, sort of wild card, like, level on force.
[44:42]
I don't want to, you know, like, spoil too much of it.
[44:43]
It's like Saturn 3.
[44:44]
Don't spoil it.
[44:45]
But, yeah, no, it's creepy.
Elliott Kalan
[44:46]
It's like Stanley Donnan's sci-fi horror tour de force Saturn 3.
Dan McCoy
[44:50]
Yeah, I've never seen it.
[44:51]
It's like Leprechaun 4, Leprechaun in space.
[44:54]
Oh, yeah.
[44:54]
Exactly.
Elliott Kalan
[44:55]
Oh, because he jumps into someone's dick through their pee?
[44:59]
Yeah, I think he does that.
[45:00]
Just like in Leprechaun 4?
Dan McCoy
[45:02]
It's exactly like Jason X.
Elliott Kalan
[45:04]
What other movies are in space?
[45:08]
Oh, a couple of the Critters movies, I think.
[45:10]
Space Chimps.
Dan McCoy
[45:10]
Space Chimps.
[45:12]
Yeah, that one.
[45:13]
Space Cowboys.
[45:13]
Fly Boys.
[45:14]
The second.
[45:14]
Space Camp.
[45:15]
There are two CGI, like, computer animated films coming out.
[45:21]
One after the other.
[45:22]
Space Chimps and Fly Boys about animals who are astronauts.
[45:28]
Well, they come in pairs.
[45:28]
Space Chimps are space chimps, obviously.
[45:30]
And then Fly Boys are apparently flies who hitch a ride on the space shuttle.
Elliott Kalan
[45:35]
I can't imagine a more boring movie than flies on a space shuttle.
Dan McCoy
[45:40]
Or potentially disgusting.
[45:42]
Unless there's, like, a creepy, like, Twilight Zone ending where they just, like, you know,
[45:45]
like, Buzz Aldrin just, like, fucking slaps the flies dead.
[45:48]
And you're like, well, there goes our heroes.
Elliott Kalan
[45:50]
Or that's why they call them Buzz or something.
[45:52]
But, no, but it's, like, because flies are so small that it's not like they're going to
[45:57]
unbalance the oxygen on the ship or anything.
Stuart Wellington
[46:00]
Or, like, they're going to, like, rescue everybody by, like, hitting a dial or some shit.
Elliott Kalan
[46:05]
That's probably what happens.
[46:06]
They have to jump really hard on a button.
[46:08]
Oh, right.
[46:09]
I bet.
[46:10]
That sounds good.
Stuart Wellington
[46:11]
Let me, uh.
[46:11]
We should watch that, man.
Dan McCoy
[46:13]
Yeah, let me tie this up a little bit, though, this show.
Stuart Wellington
[46:16]
This umbilical cord of a podcast.
Dan McCoy
[46:17]
Yeah, and say, um.
[46:19]
This one's been bad.
Stuart Wellington
[46:20]
Whoa, whoa.
[46:21]
Whoa.
[46:22]
I mean, 10,000 BC was bad.
Dan McCoy
[46:24]
Don't get down on yourself.
[46:25]
Hey.
[46:26]
Hey, you guys.
[46:28]
Hey, guys.
Elliott Kalan
[46:29]
Cheer up.
[46:29]
Hey, speaking of which, did we get any responses for our watch-a-movie with the Flophouse crew?
[46:33]
No, we got none.
[46:34]
Oh, my God.
Dan McCoy
[46:35]
That was exactly what I was going to get into.
[46:36]
We got absolutely no responses.
[46:39]
And I think part of the problem is we were.
[46:42]
They don't know who we're.
[46:43]
We were shamefully vague about this contest.
[46:45]
About the rules of the contest?
[46:46]
So, um, here's the thing.
[46:48]
You have to be 18 or older.
[46:50]
Yeah.
[46:50]
Sure, yeah.
[46:51]
All expenses paid by you, the contest contestant.
Elliott Kalan
[46:56]
But the expenses are not much.
[46:57]
It's just getting to Brooklyn, New York.
[47:00]
Stuart's apartment in Brooklyn.
Stuart Wellington
[47:01]
Oh, yeah.
[47:02]
It's going to be my place.
[47:04]
Basically, the prize is watch a movie with the Flophouse.
Dan McCoy
[47:07]
Get to be part of the podcast.
[47:08]
Get to be part of the podcast.
[47:10]
Oh, wow.
[47:12]
Where do I sign up?
[47:14]
At Stuart's apartment.
[47:15]
At Stuart's apartment.
[47:15]
You get free beers that we buy.
[47:18]
Also, probably snacks.
[47:21]
And all you have to do is you got to send in an email.
[47:23]
And here's what I'm going to say more specifically.
[47:26]
Put in the subject heading of the email.
[47:29]
Flophouse contest.
[47:31]
That's good.
[47:32]
So, they shouldn't say, like, free dick enlargement or something?
[47:35]
Yeah, no.
[47:35]
That will go straight to the spam filter.
Elliott Kalan
[47:38]
Oh, that's too bad.
[47:39]
What if they spell free FR33?
Dan McCoy
[47:42]
That's all right, then.
Elliott Kalan
[47:43]
Okay.
[47:43]
So, dick enlarger people, if you want to get through Dan's spam filter, free should be FR33.
[47:49]
Yeah.
[47:50]
But, um...
[47:51]
And you should probably spell penis Pen15.
Dan McCoy
[47:54]
And there's a very vague, um...
[47:56]
I've been a bird by that one before.
[47:57]
Very, very rules to this podcast.
[47:59]
Okay, so, yeah.
[48:00]
They, uh...
Elliott Kalan
[48:01]
Yeah, maybe people...
[48:02]
Flophouse podcast contest or something.
[48:04]
And in the subject line, Flophouse contest.
[48:07]
And then in the body of the email, what should they do?
[48:11]
Just explain in a hundred words or less why they love the Flophouse?
Dan McCoy
[48:15]
I thought that they were supposed to do something awesome for the Flophouse.
[48:17]
Oh, that's right.
Elliott Kalan
[48:18]
To bring attention to the Flophouse.
[48:19]
To bring attention to us.
Stuart Wellington
[48:21]
I thought they should just write about the worst movie they've ever seen and why it's known as 40 Days and 40 Nights.
[48:26]
All right.
Elliott Kalan
[48:27]
You can do any of those things.
[48:28]
Everyone, free form contest.
Dan McCoy
[48:31]
Put Flophouse podcast or Flophouse contest...
[48:33]
As long as it says Flophouse contest in the subject line.
[48:35]
In the subject line.
[48:36]
You are entered.
[48:37]
And then do something.
[48:39]
Get us new listeners.
[48:41]
We'd prefer that one.
[48:42]
Send us a drawing or a picture.
[48:45]
Write us a poem.
[48:46]
Sure.
Elliott Kalan
[48:46]
Or a song.
[48:48]
Write Stuart a love letter.
[48:50]
Write a one-act play.
[48:51]
Write a one-act play about like...
[48:54]
It's like a dwarf in Nazi Germany.
[48:57]
Like that book.
[48:59]
The Tindrum.
[49:00]
What?
[49:01]
The Tindrum?
[49:01]
The Tindrum?
[49:02]
Stones from the River or whatever it's called.
[49:04]
The Tindrum also works.
[49:05]
Wait, what were you going to say?
[49:06]
The Tindrum?
[49:07]
The Tindrum?
[49:07]
That's the German.
[49:09]
Oh.
[49:10]
Sorry.
Dan McCoy
[49:11]
Do any of those things.
Elliott Kalan
[49:12]
This is America.
[49:14]
We speak English now.
Dan McCoy
[49:16]
I believe in perestroika.
[49:18]
Says Tango and Cash.
[49:20]
Anyway.
Elliott Kalan
[49:20]
I believe...
[49:21]
Oh, I thought you were doing the guy from The Godfather.
[49:23]
No, no, no.
[49:23]
As a contest.
[49:24]
I was doing a quote.
[49:25]
So wait, are we done yet?
[49:26]
It's Tango and Cash.
[49:27]
We're going to go see Tango and Cash tomorrow, right?
[49:29]
No, it's not tomorrow.
[49:30]
It's August 23rd.
[49:31]
It's July 23rd.
[49:32]
Okay.
Dan McCoy
[49:32]
I'm explaining the fucking contest.
[49:34]
Okay.
Elliott Kalan
[49:35]
Listeners.
Dan McCoy
[49:36]
Keep moving, dude.
[49:37]
Get free to theflophousepodcast at gmail.com.
Elliott Kalan
[49:42]
Theflophousepodcast at gmail.com.
[49:44]
Okay.
Stuart Wellington
[49:45]
Yeah, theflophousepodcast at gmail.com.
[49:47]
Subject line, Flophouse contest.
[49:49]
And body will be things like...
[49:52]
By Jake.
[49:52]
Possibly, yep.
[49:53]
Possibly attachments of topless photos.
[49:56]
Who knows?
Dan McCoy
[49:57]
Stuart, please stop trying to get our constituents to send topless photos.
Elliott Kalan
[50:02]
Constituents?
[50:03]
Yeah, we're not elected officials, Dan.
[50:05]
We appointed ourselves.
[50:07]
Says you.
Dan McCoy
[50:08]
Anyway, there's one more thing that I wanted to say, and that's...
[50:12]
If you go to theflophousepodcast.blogspot.com, on the sidebar, there's a button there that
[50:18]
says, take a survey.
[50:23]
And the reason that that's there is...
[50:26]
If you click that button, you'll be directed to a short survey that gives us sort of demographic
[50:32]
information about you as a listener.
[50:35]
And the reason that we have that button there is because we're hooked up with a company...
[50:43]
We can maybe get a little...
[50:45]
It's called EvilCore.
[50:46]
Yeah.
[50:47]
EvilCore Incorporated.
[50:49]
And we can get a little sponsorship.
[50:52]
And I know that people think that sponsorship is evil, but I promise you that we will not
[50:59]
make any money off of this podcast ever.
[51:02]
Basically, if we get any sort of sponsorship, it will just cover our basic operating costs.
Elliott Kalan
[51:10]
And also, who says, why would you say sponsorship is evil?
[51:13]
All the great painters have had patrons who took care of them.
[51:18]
You think Shakespeare didn't have sponsors?
[51:19]
He totally did.
[51:20]
Michelangelo.
[51:21]
Michelangelo was sponsored by the Choich, among other things.
[51:24]
I turned into a Bowery boy briefly.
[51:27]
And, you know, who else?
[51:29]
El Greco, I'm sure.
[51:31]
Sure.
Dan McCoy
[51:32]
But...
Elliott Kalan
[51:32]
Other painters.
[51:34]
Sure.
Dan McCoy
[51:35]
I'm fucking going into a daze.
[51:37]
I can't even remember what I'm talking about.
[51:38]
You're talking about sponsorships.
[51:40]
So people should check that shit out.
[51:42]
So they should click on the sponsor.
[51:43]
If we get money for a sponsorship, you know, that covers the bandwidth.
[51:47]
It covers the equipment.
[51:49]
It covers the Coors Light that we need to give to Stuart to make him be funny.
[51:52]
Just to wake him up.
[51:53]
What?
[51:54]
Or to make him enjoy life.
[51:58]
So that's a good thing, too.
[52:00]
So...
[52:00]
But we've talked for a long time, and this has been a shitty movie, so we should sign off.
Stuart Wellington
[52:06]
So don't watch 10,000 BC.
[52:08]
It fucking sucks.
Elliott Kalan
[52:09]
Who's our sponsor?
[52:10]
Oh, no.
[52:10]
It's 10,000 BC on DVD.
[52:13]
Oh!
[52:14]
Good.
Dan McCoy
[52:16]
Well, as Stuart fades his own music out, I'll just say that...
Elliott Kalan
[52:26]
That's how he leaves rooms, too.
[52:28]
Exactly.
[52:29]
You guys need anything in the kitchen?
[52:30]
Because I'm going to get something.
[52:31]
All right.
[52:35]
Hey, I got to hit the job.
Stuart Wellington
[52:40]
Nice.
Dan McCoy
[52:41]
Everybody's already done it.
Stuart Wellington
[52:42]
So, hey, for the Flophouse, I've been sick.
[52:46]
And Stuart Wellington.
Dan McCoy
[52:47]
I've been Dan McCoy.
[52:49]
I remain Elliot Kalin.
[52:50]
Good night, everyone.
Elliott Kalan
[52:52]
Bye.
[52:54]
K-men are boring.
[52:55]
I guess that's what we learned from this.
[53:04]
What's a mammoth?
[53:04]
It's a mammoth.
[53:05]
Oh, fuck that.
Stuart Wellington
[53:07]
It's like calling little kids younglings.
Elliott Kalan
[53:09]
That was the dumbest.
[53:12]
Younglings.
Stuart Wellington
[53:13]
Annie, did you kill a shitload of younglings?
[53:16]
Like, I don't know.
[53:18]
I think so.
[53:19]
Wait, are those...
[53:20]
Are those children, you mean?
[53:21]
Because...
[53:22]
I killed some of them.
[53:23]
Because you can just call them that.
[53:24]
Call them children next time.
Elliott Kalan
[53:26]
Because, like, we use the same word for food, or space, or moon, or clothing, or you, or person,
[53:33]
or...
[53:33]
We don't need a different word for children, do we?
[53:36]
Except poodoo means poop.
[53:37]
Well, that's in Hud East.
Description
0:00 - 0:33 - Introduction and theme.0:33 - 2:47 - We have our usual difficulty getting down to business.2:48 - 30:30 - Would 10,000 B.C. have been better if it had starred Ringo Starr and Shelly Long? Yes. Yes it would.30:31 - 34:13 - Final judgments.34:14 - 36:45 - A brief digression about the films of Brendan Fraser.36:46 - 46:13 - The sad bastards recommend. 46:14 - 52:57 - A greater explication of the Flop House contest, surveys, podcasty business, and goodbyes.52:58 - 53:39 - Theme and outtakes.
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