FH Mini 120 - Coming Attractions in 2025

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[0:31] This time, it's personal.

[0:33] Hey everyone, welcome to the Flop House.

[0:39] I'm Dan McCoy.

[0:40] I'm Stuart Wellington.

[0:42] I'm Elliot Kalin and I'm a robot for some reason.

[0:46] Oh, that's cool.

[0:47] Well, you know, we're trying out something different here.

[0:49] Normally we have Elliot as a human,

[0:51] but this time we have a robot Elliot

[0:53] because he doesn't need money.

[0:56] The AI Elliot is a thousand times more efficient

[1:01] than flesh Elliot.

[1:03] But don't look at his hands.

[1:05] But he does.

[1:06] Don't look at my six fingered hands

[1:07] and of course I cannot come up with original ideas

[1:10] but can only repackage things

[1:12] that have been said by Elliot before in the past.

[1:15] R-O-C-K in the USA, beep boop.

[1:19] And also of course it takes one full rainforest

[1:21] for one minute of robot Elliot.

[1:26] Yes, but you weren't using that rainforest to begin with.

[1:30] Hey, this is-

[1:31] Guys, I'm just kidding, it's me.

[1:32] Oh, thank God.

[1:33] Oh, bummer.

[1:35] Wow, different reactions.

[1:36] Yeah, rainbow of responses, sure.

[1:40] Of course, the Flop House is often a podcast

[1:44] where we watch a bad movie and then we talk about it.

[1:45] It's always a podcast.

[1:46] Oh, nevermind.

[1:47] Yeah.

[1:48] But then on every other week,

[1:50] we do these improperly named mini episodes.

[1:55] They're often very long and we do something different.

[2:00] And in this case, I am leading the charge.

[2:02] This episode comes after Stuart's mini

[2:07] that when we're recording this just got released

[2:09] where he looked back on the films of 2024

[2:12] in sort of the game form.

[2:15] And of course, as this will be coming out in the new year,

[2:20] I will be looking forward in my mini

[2:23] about the movies that are scheduled to be released in 2025.

[2:27] Okay, Elliot's gonna crush this one.

[2:29] Unlike last time where Elliot struggled a little bit.

[2:32] Oh yeah, if I didn't get to the movies much this year,

[2:34] I'm certainly very aware of what's coming out next year.

[2:37] This is less of a game and more of a bit of a discussion.

[2:42] Is it just a discussion of the billboards in LA

[2:45] that talk about movies that are coming out?

[2:46] Because Elliot would do pretty good.

[2:48] Guys, I did see some trailers a couple of days ago

[2:52] when I had to take my children to the movie, Mufasa,

[2:55] a movie that neither of them really liked very much.

[2:59] But we saw some trailers for some other movies.

[3:01] So I know a couple other movies that are coming out.

[3:03] Did you know guys, there is not a cartoon in existence

[3:06] which is not being live-actioned right now

[3:08] and released for you?

[3:10] Well, some of those may come up.

[3:11] Okay, let's get into this.

[3:14] And yet, no Black Cauldron live-action movie.

[3:17] What's going on, Disney?

[3:18] Yeah, so consider my breath baited, Dan.

[3:22] I mean, that would actually be pretty good.

[3:26] I mean, that's the one they should do,

[3:27] Black Cauldron live-action.

[3:29] Do it right.

[3:29] Sure, not Lilo and Stitch, come on.

[3:31] Blam! Folds of Peridot series, maybe.

[3:34] Or like a live-action, not even live-action,

[3:37] do a full-length hand-drawn Don Bluth Dragon Slayer movie.

[3:41] Do it. Sure, yeah.

[3:42] Just do it.

[3:43] I don't know why that triggered my Siri.

[3:47] When I said do it, it just like started.

[3:50] Oh, I can't make a live-action movie.

[3:52] Yeah, Dan, what have you been doing with your Siri?

[3:57] Nothing.

[3:58] Okay, so this is broken down by month.

[4:01] And for each month, I've assembled a pair of movies

[4:04] and I'm just gonna be asking you

[4:06] which one you might be more excited to see.

[4:08] So, okay, we've got-

[4:09] You're like a cinemallier with your movie pairings.

[4:13] So, in January, here are a couple movies that are coming out

[4:18] and maybe you can tell me

[4:18] which one you're more excited to see.

[4:20] We've got Presence, directed by Steven Soderbergh.

[4:24] Family discover they are not alone

[4:26] when they move into a new house.

[4:28] Soderbergh doing a-

[4:29] Not with a T, with a C. A horror film.

[4:31] Oh, he's never really done a horror movie before.

[4:35] He's done thrillers, right?

[4:36] When he's never, he did side effects, right?

[4:38] But he's never done like a horror movie, huh?

[4:40] Yeah.

[4:40] I'd say I was excited about it,

[4:41] but I also have, I've not really gone out of my way

[4:44] to see the last four or five Soderbergh movies

[4:46] and they're all on Netflix, I think, so.

[4:48] Yeah, I mean, they're-

[4:49] Logan Locke.

[4:50] I've heard they're good.

[4:52] I mean, they're, yeah, they're good.

[4:54] He has gone smaller, but that's kind of, you know,

[4:57] I think the industry bit

[4:58] and like not making his sort of movies

[5:00] and he's like, well, I'll go where I have the control.

[5:03] Yeah.

[5:04] But, so either that or of course, Screamboat,

[5:08] which is of course an edgy slasher re-imagining

[5:12] of Steamboat Willie.

[5:14] Whoa.

[5:15] Finally.

[5:16] Okay, so this is a-

[5:17] Finally, he's in the public domain so we can do this.

[5:18] Yeah, this is public domain.

[5:19] We can do a Screamboat.

[5:20] This is Winnie the Pooh's monster movie now.

[5:21] Did you hear the thing about,

[5:22] so soon Popeye is gonna be in the public domain,

[5:24] the original Popeye?

[5:25] Yeah, but just be-

[5:26] And people are like,

[5:27] we're already doing horror movies of him.

[5:28] It's like, there's gotta be a thing

[5:29] other than horror movies to do with these characters.

[5:31] They're so cheap, though.

[5:32] And you know it's gonna be called

[5:33] Blood of Spinach or something.

[5:34] They are cheap to do.

[5:35] The only thing that can be done

[5:36] is we need to take beloved characters

[5:38] and turn them into murderers.

[5:39] That is what we do.

[5:41] Or take beloved murderers and turn them into characters.

[5:45] And then send those characters to the USA.

[5:46] To the USA.

[5:47] They'll be welcome.

[5:48] In my new public domain movie, Lil' Jack.

[5:51] So if Lil' Jack has a problem,

[5:53] he can't stop stabbing prostitutes.

[5:56] Are they doing like Lil' Dexter?

[5:58] Isn't there a show, Lil' Dexter?

[5:59] And they got Michael C. Hall

[6:01] to be like the framing device or something?

[6:03] Did they?

[6:04] I don't know.

[6:04] Like 100 Years but Dexter?

[6:06] I think so, yeah.

[6:07] Like Young Sheldon but Dexter?

[6:08] Like Young Sheldon but Dexter.

[6:10] Yeah, yeah.

[6:10] Okay.

[6:11] It might be a great show

[6:12] that's gonna run for like 40 seasons.

[6:14] Okay, so what I'm hearing

[6:16] is a lot of enthusiasm for Springboat.

[6:18] So.

[6:19] I'm leaning toward, I mean, I, you know.

[6:22] Are we talking sincerely or ironically?

[6:25] The trailer for Presence looks interesting enough.

[6:28] And it looks very like, you know,

[6:30] feels very tied to the form of it, right?

[6:33] It's like shot really weird.

[6:35] Yeah.

[6:36] But.

[6:37] Seems like he's doing something new.

[6:38] Yeah, it looks interesting.

[6:39] I'd be more interested in that.

[6:40] As bored as I am with Haunted House movies,

[6:44] I'm curious to see what he'll do with it.

[6:46] Okay, well, let's move on to February

[6:49] where I've got a pairing here.

[6:50] I'm curious to see where you land here.

[6:52] Paddington and Brew.

[6:53] Would you, are you more interested in The Monkey,

[6:57] which is of course the new film by Osgood Perkins

[7:00] who directed Long Legs

[7:02] and it's based on a Stephen King short story.

[7:04] Okay.

[7:05] Or The Unbreakable Boy about an autistic boy

[7:09] with brittle bone disease and his father

[7:11] who's played by Zachary Levi,

[7:13] a man who has made no career

[7:15] or personal mistakes recently whatsoever.

[7:18] I'm out of the loop.

[7:19] What did he do?

[7:20] Well.

[7:24] Just look it up.

[7:25] I'll look it up.

[7:26] But well, I mean, everything you said

[7:28] about that second movie is a red flag for me.

[7:32] Uh-huh.

[7:34] Yeah, so wait, which one was made

[7:36] by the Harold and the Purple Crayon team?

[7:39] That would be, I don't know if it's by the team.

[7:41] It's the same star.

[7:43] Yeah, I guess, wait, what was the first one?

[7:46] The Monkey.

[7:47] I'll see that one, yeah, why not?

[7:48] Yeah.

[7:49] I like Long Legs.

[7:50] I like Black Coat's Daughter.

[7:51] I still haven't seen Long Legs,

[7:53] but I'd rather see that one first.

[7:55] So that Harold and Purple Crayon movie,

[7:56] did that come out?

[7:58] Damn.

[7:58] Did that happen?

[7:59] It happened.

[8:00] It is available.

[8:02] It is on, I think it's on Netflix or some streamer already.

[8:05] We probably should talk about it

[8:07] because it seems like-

[8:08] We should probably do it at some point.

[8:09] A mega flop.

[8:11] And such a misguide.

[8:13] The idea of, I mean, Harold and the Purple Crayon,

[8:15] we'll talk about this when we do that movie,

[8:16] I guess, at some point, but I love that book.

[8:18] It's a beautiful book.

[8:19] I find it to be such a beautiful poetic book

[8:21] about creativity and the idea that like,

[8:24] now he's grown up and he's in our world.

[8:26] It's like, what the fuck?

[8:27] Like, come on, guys.

[8:28] Yeah, mm-hmm.

[8:29] It's the little prince,

[8:30] but now he's grown up and he's on the run from space pirates.

[8:33] It's like, come on, man.

[8:34] Like, what are you doing?

[8:36] Ugh.

[8:38] Yeah.

[8:39] And Steaming King on film has had,

[8:41] there's been a mixed bag,

[8:42] but I like the trailer to the-

[8:45] I mean, Steaming King on film,

[8:47] yeah, you never know what you're gonna get.

[8:48] It could be a great movie.

[8:49] It could be a terrible movie,

[8:50] but it's worth the risk.

[8:52] Okay, in March, coming up in March,

[8:54] we have Sinners, which is the new Ryan Coogler film.

[8:58] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[8:59] Which is also his first horror movie.

[9:01] It stars Michael B. Jordan as twin brothers

[9:04] encountering a mysterious evil.

[9:06] Or you could go see, if you're interested,

[9:10] Snow White, the Walt Disney live action remake

[9:13] starring seven horrifying CGI dwarves.

[9:17] So-

[9:18] Who plays Snow White?

[9:20] That's Rachel Ziegler.

[9:22] Okay.

[9:23] What was the first movie star

[9:24] I was busy reading about?

[9:24] Joyce.

[9:25] Yeah.

[9:26] If you're going to make that-

[9:28] I was busy reading about Zachary Levi's politics.

[9:30] What's that?

[9:31] Yeah.

[9:33] Sinners, the new Ryan Coogler film.

[9:35] Yeah, I mean, I'm more interested in that.

[9:38] Although, a misguided CGI dwarf extravaganza

[9:43] could be fun for me.

[9:44] I mean, ask me which movie I'm more interested in seeing.

[9:47] The Ryan Coogler one.

[9:48] Ask me which one I am more likely to see in the theaters.

[9:51] The Snow White one.

[9:52] I will give it that, apparently,

[9:55] Greta Gerwig was one of the screenwriters

[9:57] on the Snow White one.

[9:58] So it might have something.

[10:00] going on.

[10:01] Uh-huh.

[10:02] Yeah.

[10:03] Maybe.

[10:04] Who knows?

[10:05] Who knows?

[10:06] So that means that automatically Noah Baumbach did a little bit of punch-up as well.

[10:09] We are.

[10:10] Probably.

[10:11] I think that's the kind of thing that you mean as a joke, but I think could edge into

[10:18] misogyny, Stuart.

[10:19] So I would avoid- No, but I know they work together a lot, though.

[10:24] I know they work together a lot and they're partners, but I don't want any listeners to

[10:28] be like, oh, Stuart thinks that Greta Gerwig can't do it on her own and she needs Noah

[10:31] Baumbach to be the man on the throne.

[10:32] Thank you.

[10:33] Yeah, I certainly, that is not the case for me.

[10:34] I know you don't mean it that way.

[10:35] Yeah.

[10:36] But that being said, he probably did, right?

[10:37] Like, he probably did, right?

[10:38] Yeah, yeah.

[10:39] That part where the dwarves are like smearing jizz all over books and shit in the library.

[10:43] The part where they're listening to Led Zeppelin?

[10:45] Yeah, sure.

[10:46] How, guys, I've said this before and I'll say it again.

[10:48] Two things I have issues with in Squid and the Whale.

[10:50] One, that jizz on the books thing is too much.

[10:52] Two, none of the other kids in his school recognize that song.

[10:56] None of them knew that that was not a song that he wrote.

[10:59] Come on.

[11:00] Come on, Noah Baumbach.

[11:01] There's no way.

[11:02] I can't believe it.

[11:03] I can't imagine it.

[11:04] Come on.

[11:05] It was a huge song.

[11:06] Huge album.

[11:07] It was a big deal.

[11:08] Put it in the IMGB goofs, I guess.

[11:09] Put it in the goofs.

[11:10] Yeah.

[11:11] Put it in the goofs.

[11:12] All right.

[11:13] So...

[11:14] Squid and the Whale?

[11:15] More like the squid and the goof.

[11:16] Oh, but that makes it sound like it's a squid fighting Goofy.

[11:18] Oh, no.

[11:19] Yeah.

[11:20] That sounds like a great movie.

[11:21] 20,000 goofs under the sea.

[11:23] Disney, do it.

[11:24] Come on.

[11:25] Yeah.

[11:26] Well, in April, you guys have a tough choice to make.

[11:29] It's going to be really hard.

[11:30] Do you want to run out to see Mickey 17, which is, of course, the next movie from Bong Joon

[11:36] Ho, the one that Warner Brothers and David Zath love, keep pushing back despite the fact

[11:43] that Parasite, his last movie, literally won the best picture.

[11:47] That's Mickey 17.

[11:48] And it's got Robert Pattinson doing a fun accent.

[11:51] And you know that after someone wins an Academy Award, they always do their best work when

[11:56] they can do anything they want.

[11:57] A little movie called Babylon that was a little divisive, according to some.

[12:01] Okay.

[12:02] I'm not going to get into that.

[12:03] There might even be a whole podcast about when someone gets that kind of a blank check

[12:07] and whether it works out or not.

[12:09] Or your other choice, of course, is you can run out and see a Minecraft movie starring

[12:15] Jason Momoa and Jack Black, directed by Napoleon Dynamite's Jared Hess, which is, as the title

[12:21] suggests, a Minecraft movie.

[12:23] Yeah.

[12:25] There's a part in that trailer, which, again, I've seen, because the kind of movies I've

[12:28] seen in the theater now are the kind where they're on the movie.

[12:30] Wait, what's the trailer?

[12:31] What's it look like?

[12:32] Does it look like Minecraft?

[12:33] It actually looks much better than the video game Minecraft, but it's just a bunch of people

[12:37] walking around.

[12:38] It's the same Jumanji-type story where a bunch of real-life people get sucked into Minecraft.

[12:44] And they get to Jack Black and he goes, my name is Steve.

[12:48] And I had to turn to my children and be like, what does that mean?

[12:51] He said it as if it's a big thing.

[12:53] And they're like, Steve's like the most famous character in Minecraft.

[12:56] Come on, you don't know that?

[12:57] But again, I would rather see the Bong Joon-ho movie, but I will be seeing Minecraft because

[13:03] my children have asked me about it many times.

[13:05] So correct me if I'm wrong, but in Jumanji, wasn't it like they opened the game and all

[13:11] the shit came into the real world?

[13:13] In the old Jumanji.

[13:14] In the new Jumanji, it's a video game that they're sucked into.

[13:18] Yeah.

[13:19] In the Jumanji that also features Jack Black.

[13:21] Why don't they call it Jumanji Tron then?

[13:23] Because that's kind of what that is, right?

[13:25] Jutranji?

[13:26] I don't know, it sounds like a slur or something.

[13:30] Yeah, Jutranji does sound like it's Tron, but they're Jewish, yeah.

[13:34] Yeah.

[13:35] Okay, well, we're getting into blockbuster territory now, of course.

[13:41] Yeah, heck yeah.

[13:42] Now that we're past a Minecraft movie.

[13:45] So which ones do you guys want to see?

[13:48] You didn't answer the question, Stuart.

[13:49] Minecraft or the other one?

[13:54] The other one's the bong movie, right?

[13:55] Yes.

[13:56] Yeah, I want to watch it.

[13:57] I can't wait.

[13:58] I'm going to take a hit off that bong.

[13:59] So the Minecraft movie, you watch the trailer for that, and actually, I want you to, Stuart,

[14:04] I want you to write down your script for a Minecraft trailer, and then I want you to

[14:08] watch the trailer and see how much it exactly matches exactly what you think it's going

[14:12] to be.

[14:13] Yeah, I'm going to do that.

[14:14] Okay.

[14:15] Not a lot of surprises.

[14:16] And then I'll film it and I'll post it on my TikTok.

[14:17] I mean.

[14:18] We'll never see it.

[14:19] I gotta say, if I did that exercise.

[14:22] Stuart, look, I don't have TikTok.

[14:23] I'm just doing what the American government wants me to do and not use TikTok, okay?

[14:26] No, yeah, you're right.

[14:27] Yeah, yeah.

[14:28] You were saying, yeah, that's what you say every time you get in your Elon Musk-created

[14:32] car and you spend your Trump bucks on things.

[14:37] If I did that exercise, it would genuinely be wild because I have no idea what Minecraft

[14:43] is.

[14:44] Like, is that the one that's all blocky?

[14:47] It's all blocky.

[14:48] You're just building things and occasionally you can eat pigs.

[14:50] That's as much as I know.

[14:52] What do you think?

[14:53] I'm like, I feel like you play more modern video games than I do.

[14:58] Is Minecraft a modern video game?

[15:00] I mean, what counts as modern?

[15:02] It's still a thing that people play.

[15:04] You're right, actually.

[15:05] I mean, modern art would be art from the early 20th century up to like the 1960s, 1970s.

[15:10] I'm like officially like the gaming nerd correspondent on this show.

[15:17] I should do my research, guys, before somebody younger will replace me on this show.

[15:23] Oh, almost certainly.

[15:24] Yeah.

[15:25] Yeah.

[15:26] We have a gaming correspondent and we have a hedgehog correspondent.

[15:27] Those are the two correspondents we have.

[15:29] And we have a cat's premiere correspondent.

[15:32] Um, OK.

[15:35] In May.

[15:36] In May.

[15:38] You have the option of going out to see Thunderbolts, asterisk, Marvel's first big team up movie

[15:45] in a while with sort of an anti-hero Avengers.

[15:50] Or you see Final Destination Bloodlines, which is dubbed a reimagining of the Final Destination

[15:57] series, a series which has reached the point in every horror series lifecycle where they

[16:01] add bloodlines to the title.

[16:05] So this time people are going after death.

[16:07] That's the reimagining.

[16:08] Yeah.

[16:09] I definitely have seen the Thunderbolts trailer and it looks fine.

[16:13] And I mean, Florence Pugh.

[16:15] I mean, I'll watch.

[16:16] I mean, she's so charming.

[16:17] She's great.

[16:18] Lots of stuff.

[16:19] And you and you love David Harbour, right?

[16:21] Yeah.

[16:22] Yeah.

[16:23] I love big old David Harbour.

[16:24] And I want to support him in this difficult time since he's separating from his longtime

[16:27] partner.

[16:28] Oh, I know.

[16:29] That's a shame.

[16:30] You guys are so much more up on the personal lives of famous people than I am.

[16:32] You guys let me in.

[16:34] You knew all about Zachary Levi.

[16:36] I guess that's true.

[16:37] Yeah.

[16:38] Well, Elliot.

[16:39] Yeah.

[16:40] I mean, I don't have children to waste time on.

[16:43] That's true.

[16:44] That's fair.

[16:45] That's fair.

[16:46] When I'm lying in bed, I'll look at my when I'm lying on my deathbed and I'm dying.

[16:51] I'll look over my phone.

[16:52] I'll be like, I just wish I had more time with you, little kid.

[16:55] Now, I'll be I'll be honest, I could just watch one more trailer.

[16:59] Yeah.

[17:00] I'll be honest about the selections here in May.

[17:03] Clearly at this point, you've you've you've tweaked to the bit, which is that one movie

[17:07] is less appealing than the other film.

[17:10] But May, it was a harder one.

[17:12] Final Destination has been a pretty consistent series, but but it's being reimagined, a reimagining

[17:21] and it has bloodlines.

[17:23] Those are red flags.

[17:24] Huge red flags.

[17:25] But guys, I'm not very good at saying no when something is that attractive and still has

[17:29] red flags.

[17:30] And Final Destination is is the hottest horror franchise, I would argue.

[17:35] It has the fewest misses.

[17:37] Yes.

[17:38] Yes, the the the wait, what is it?

[17:41] The ceiling isn't that high, even though I do love a couple of them.

[17:47] But the floor also isn't that low on the yes.

[17:50] Yes.

[17:51] And the high moments, the I mean, some of the and some of the best set pieces are like

[17:55] late in the series.

[17:57] Yeah, that's true.

[17:58] That that's a gymnastic set piece is incredible.

[18:01] That's a that is a great one.

[18:02] That is the gymnastics one is that is that is fucking that proves the fucking magic of

[18:06] cinema.

[18:10] Yeah, this is a hard one.

[18:11] It's hard.

[18:12] The original Thunderbolts comic book I loved, but I don't think they're they're not doing

[18:17] it the same way.

[18:18] So Thunderbolts, the original concept was they are villains who are pretending to be

[18:22] superheroes and nobody knows it.

[18:24] And some of the villains are feeling the urge to actually become heroes and others are not.

[18:29] And I feel like this is just going to be kind of like Suicide Squad, you know, type stuff

[18:33] or like, you know, it's and probably I'm worried that it's going to be what's funny

[18:37] is that Final Destination is all about people getting killed and I'm like, I want to see

[18:40] it elaborate, kind of crazy deaths.

[18:43] This is also I'm sure they're going to kill a lot of people.

[18:44] I'm not going to like it.

[18:45] It's going to be a lot of killing people and making jokes about it.

[18:47] And it shows my duality when it comes to movies where a lot of people get killed.

[18:51] On the other hand, Wendell Pierce is in Thunderbolts and I love Wendell Pierce.

[18:55] So I don't know.

[18:56] He's got a big role.

[18:57] But you know what?

[18:58] I mean, the thing is, I got to find out what that asterisk means.

[19:00] What does that asterisk on the title mean?

[19:02] You know, I don't know what are they referring to?

[19:05] So maybe it's asterisk from asterisk and obelisk.

[19:08] Yeah.

[19:09] If that was the like asterisk and obelisk, have you heard about the Thunderbolts initiative

[19:13] and they only speak they only speak ancient French, like ancient Gaelic.

[19:18] Like come on.

[19:19] Then I then I'd be more interested.

[19:20] Yeah.

[19:21] But and they are 100 percent hand drawn animated characters.

[19:25] Yes.

[19:26] I have.

[19:27] Yeah.

[19:28] No room on this one.

[19:30] I want to see our version of Thunderbolts asterisks and obelisks in it.

[19:34] We'll say that's an option.

[19:37] Let's move on to June where you've got an interesting choice.

[19:41] You could see 28.

[19:42] All of these are.

[19:43] Oh, wow.

[19:44] Fascinating.

[19:45] It's real.

[19:46] Yeah, sure.

[19:47] You can see 28 years later where the creative team behind 28 Weeks Later returns for a decades

[19:55] later installment of pseudo zombie horror.

[20:00] No, you're thinking you have 28 days later, the way days, how to lose a guy in 28 days.

[20:10] No, that's or you can run out.

[20:14] You think you have you think of 28 days, the condor?

[20:16] No, you could run out and see and this is the whole title from the world of John Wick

[20:22] Ballerina, which is, of course, the movie, the movie that asks, what if we remove John

[20:28] Wick from John Wick, but added the director of the Underworld series?

[20:32] Well, it didn't work to remove Spider-Man from all those Spider-Man bad guy movies.

[20:36] But maybe John Wick's not as important to these characters.

[20:38] I think the world of John Wick glossing over Madame Webb and I do not like this Madame

[20:44] Webb erasure.

[20:45] Madame Webb is the one movie that kind of does have Spider-Man in it because he's a

[20:48] baby.

[20:51] That's why it kind of works.

[20:53] Yeah.

[20:54] Guys, you know, and we got to do Craven, right?

[20:56] We got to do Craven when it's available.

[20:57] I'm Craven Craven.

[20:58] I'm Craven Craven.

[20:59] It's I've kept away from reviews because I don't want to be spoiled.

[21:06] I want to see it as bad as it's meant to be.

[21:08] I had a friend who was going to see it and I'm like, you know what, in another world,

[21:13] I would come out to the theater and watch Craven with you.

[21:15] But I know we're going to have to watch John Wick.

[21:17] Right.

[21:18] We've got to do Craven.

[21:19] Yeah.

[21:20] Yeah.

[21:21] He sees everything.

[21:22] Yeah, he sees everything.

[21:24] So this is either from the world of John Wick, the ballerina.

[21:29] Now, is this a character from the later John Wick movies, the ballerina, or is this a new

[21:33] character?

[21:35] Was she in the early ones?

[21:36] I don't remember her.

[21:37] So Wick was associated with like that kind of like those Russian mob ballerinas.

[21:44] I don't know what the actual.

[21:46] I again, I have to stress that I don't pay that much attention to the John Wick movies

[21:50] after the first one.

[21:51] I watched at least one of them entirely on mute because I didn't want to wake up my wife

[21:56] and just seemed I could follow the.

[21:58] Totally fine way to watch them.

[21:59] I've seen all of them and really liked them, but seen all of them once.

[22:05] So I am not a.

[22:06] And, you know, OK, so have you have you watched any of the John Wick movies?

[22:11] I've seen the first two.

[22:12] I just haven't seen the third or the fourth, because when when when the alert went out

[22:16] for John Wick, that he that they had to stop him and every single person in New York checked

[22:20] their phone.

[22:21] I was like, I can't see.

[22:22] I can't buy this world where everyone is a hitman.

[22:24] It's weird.

[22:25] There's if anything, you should at least watch some of the action sequence.

[22:29] I will say.

[22:30] Yeah, I'll watch.

[22:31] They're incredible.

[22:32] Yeah.

[22:33] For me.

[22:34] It's like Final Destination.

[22:35] I just want to see the scene, the death scenes.

[22:36] I don't see any of the other scenes in the Final Destination movie.

[22:38] I still liked to.

[22:40] But for me, too, was like the dip.

[22:42] And then like I like three and four more than two.

[22:45] So if you OK, if you have any affection, I don't know.

[22:49] As you said before, there's limited time to make your priorities.

[22:53] We have a ballerina and what's the other twenty eight years later?

[22:57] I'll probably see that.

[22:58] I thought the last one, the the the first two were good.

[23:01] Yeah.

[23:02] I don't think I ever saw twenty eight weeks later, but twenty twenty days later, I liked

[23:07] a lot.

[23:08] Yeah.

[23:09] It's the it's it was like pretty brutal.

[23:10] Yeah.

[23:11] What?

[23:12] Who's that?

[23:13] Who's the the baddie in it from train spotting and ravenous?

[23:18] Yeah.

[23:19] He's really he's really scary.

[23:20] Um, I scary guy.

[23:21] Yeah.

[23:22] No, it's it's good.

[23:23] It's a weird one where, you know, like like other zombie movie, the Dawn of the Dead remake.

[23:32] I don't think it ever gets better than the opening, which is amazing.

[23:36] Yes.

[23:37] Yeah.

[23:38] But the rest of the movie is pretty good.

[23:39] I don't know that moment at the moment.

[23:40] Twenty days later, when he's when he falls down, he looks up and there's a plane flying

[23:43] over the sky.

[23:44] That's a pretty powerful moment.

[23:45] Well, no, I'm talking about the this week or the sequel sequel.

[23:49] Yeah.

[23:50] Yeah.

[23:51] Because that's part certainly by the end of 28 days later, when he's using the zombies

[23:53] for his like revenge fighting, I was like, all right, let's kind of turn into a superhero

[23:57] now.

[23:58] I don't love this, but I love seeing that plane.

[23:59] And it's just being like everyone just forgot about England.

[24:02] They don't give it.

[24:03] They don't care about it.

[24:04] They don't give a shit about it.

[24:05] Everyone's living their life in other countries.

[24:08] So because we're halfway through the year, I'm going to just take a brief break to mention

[24:12] a couple of Flophouse things.

[24:14] Of course, last week was our ski school to flop TV, and next month will be our flop TV

[24:23] season two big finale, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles to the Secret of the Ooze, a movie

[24:28] that I have somehow never seen in its entirety.

[24:31] So I don't really think of the ooze is I will be learning the secret of the ooze.

[24:35] I saw the movie multiple times in the theater when it came out.

[24:39] Yeah.

[24:40] I just missed it on the box office came recently.

[24:43] The secret of the ooze was not in my head.

[24:45] So so you want to see my mind or no?

[24:49] The other mutants?

[24:50] No, I don't know.

[24:51] Don't let me still let me spoil the existence of Toca and Razor.

[24:54] Yeah.

[24:55] But if you're interested, of course, go to the Flophouse dot SimpleTix dot com.

[24:59] And if you get a season pass, you can watch all the old shows until the end of February.

[25:05] So that's coming up.

[25:07] And of course, as you are listening to this, if you're listening to it when it was released

[25:13] next week is our live show at San Francisco Sketch Fest on January the 19th at 7 p.m.

[25:21] at Cobb's Comedy Club.

[25:22] We will be talking about Cutthroat Island and doing our presentations.

[25:28] I have an idea for a presentation that I think is pretty good.

[25:35] I can't wait to see what's pretty good.

[25:40] I've been working on it.

[25:42] That's been my big project lately.

[25:44] So if you're interested, you can go to SF Sketch Fest dot com for tickets, presuming

[25:51] we haven't pulled up and who knows?

[25:53] We'll have to check.

[25:54] It's possible.

[25:55] Yeah.

[25:56] Have you been looking for a new podcast all about nerdy pop culture?

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[26:42] It makes me so scarce because I'm like, when is the bad thing going to happen?

[26:46] And minds can be kind of unpredictable and eccentric.

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[27:22] Let's get back to the series of infernal choices you have to make to 2025.

[27:31] Sophie herself would have trouble making these choices.

[27:35] So in July, would you, Sophie Tucker, that is the last of the Red Hot Mamas.

[27:39] Yeah.

[27:40] Sure.

[27:41] Mm hmm.

[27:42] In July, would you prefer to go out and see Superman, which was the most watched Warner

[27:48] Brothers trailer ever?

[27:49] Some nonsense record like that.

[27:51] James Gunn, of course, taking creative control of D.C., returning Superman to the tone of

[27:56] Superman and it's got pretty much the same music in the trailer, right?

[28:01] We're very well.

[28:02] They they use a heavy metal version of John Williams.

[28:05] The now it's a little cryptos in it.

[28:07] Mm hmm.

[28:08] It's a dog.

[28:09] It's got superpowers.

[28:10] I haven't seen the trailer yet.

[28:11] I hear it's really good, actually.

[28:13] Or there's a lot of kissing in the trailer, at least the one that a surprising amount

[28:17] of soups and Lois kissing.

[28:18] Yeah.

[28:19] Stuart, you love this.

[28:21] And your favorite character, Mr. Terrific, also appears in it.

[28:24] Oh, you be or you have the option, of course, to see Jurassic World Rebirth.

[28:31] It's born again.

[28:32] Did you miss it in the whole three years since the last one, Elliot?

[28:35] You love dinosaurs.

[28:36] You must be thirsting for this one.

[28:38] I do love dinosaurs.

[28:39] I got to admit this is now now we're in that now we're in the real world that young Elliot

[28:45] never thought he would find himself in where I'm so bored by both superhero movies and

[28:49] dinosaur movies that I'm like, yeah, I don't know.

[28:52] Or specifically the Jurassic World Jurassic Park movies like if there's another movie

[28:57] with dinosaurs, I'll go.

[28:58] I'll eat that up.

[28:59] But I feel like both of these I'm like, let's let's let these franchises, you know, just

[29:03] lay low.

[29:04] Guys, what was the last non Jurassic movie that had a dinosaur in it?

[29:09] The sixty five.

[29:10] Oh, yeah.

[29:11] And Tree of Life.

[29:13] Tree of Life also has some great dinosaur footage in it.

[29:15] I I understand what you're saying, although because I have disliked the Zack Snyder characterization

[29:22] of Superman so much, like it does feel like that character in my mind has not been dead

[29:27] for years.

[29:28] And we have.

[29:29] Oh, yeah, that's true.

[29:30] I definitely am curious to see a Superman movie where he does not snap people's necks

[29:34] or just allow thousands of people to get killed during his fights.

[29:38] As far as we know, maybe that's maybe that's James Gunn's surprise is that his Superman

[29:42] is is kind of a bumbling Clark Kent in the lighthearted soups, but he still kills people

[29:46] Is he doing like a movie version of like All-Star Superman or something?

[29:50] What's he doing?

[29:51] It looks very All-Star Superman, you know, color wise, color palette wise, but it's not

[29:55] the same story because like in the trailer, the thing that threw me off at the trailer

[30:00] that there's also like, I think like Hawkman or someone shows up in it and there's Green

[30:05] Lanterns in it, Mr. Terrible.

[30:06] Yeah, Nathan's filling in there as one of the Green Lanterns, Guy Gardner, yeah.

[30:09] He probably plays Guy Gardner.

[30:10] It's like, I kind of would love to see a Superman movie where it's just Superman and it's not

[30:15] all these other characters.

[30:16] Yeah, not carrying the weight of an entire IP, like a whole franchise.

[30:21] Yes, exactly.

[30:22] Yeah.

[30:23] But I'm curious about, what's Rebirth-ing about Jurassic World?

[30:26] Yeah, yeah.

[30:27] Rebirth is another one of these really lazy title subtitles, like Rises is probably the

[30:32] laziest one because it means nothing.

[30:34] It's so incredibly meaningless, you know.

[30:36] I think that the real answer is, it is the studio being like, okay, we understand you

[30:41] didn't really like those last couple of ones, we're doing something different.

[30:46] I feel like at this point, with a number of these franchises, they should just be like

[30:50] Jurassic World 2025.

[30:52] Yeah.

[30:53] Or just Jurassic World 4.

[30:57] Just put a number at the end of it, you know?

[30:59] Yeah.

[31:00] But that's the way they used to do the airport movies, was it would be like, Airport 75,

[31:04] you know.

[31:05] And you'd be like, oh, the new airport is out, the new model of the airport movies.

[31:09] Yeah.

[31:10] Okay.

[31:11] Well, in August, you have a choice to make, and that is, could you, would you, could you,

[31:16] would you, with a bear?

[31:17] I don't think we made a choice in July, I don't think we ever actually chose anything.

[31:24] Do you have a choice to make?

[31:25] I'll see Superman.

[31:26] I'll go see the Superman movie.

[31:27] Yeah.

[31:28] I'll see Jurassic World Rebirth, probably.

[31:30] August.

[31:32] You could watch the Battle of Bactan Cross, which there's no plot details yet, but this

[31:39] is Paul Thomas Anderson's next film.

[31:42] And it is apparently the biggest budget he's ever had, in part because he's got DiCaprio

[31:46] as his lead.

[31:47] And so it's like, oh, well, I sure loved that last movie of his.

[31:51] Ugh.

[31:52] No, thank you.

[31:53] But you didn't like?

[31:54] Licorice Pizza?

[31:55] Oh, I thought you were talking about DiCaprio's last movie.

[31:58] No, no, no, Paul Thomas Anderson's last movie.

[31:59] You didn't like Licorice Pizza?

[32:02] No, not a big fan.

[32:04] Didn't really like it.

[32:05] I kept waiting for the movie to kind of kick into gear and do something that I liked, and

[32:08] it just never did it.

[32:09] I don't agree with you, but, you know, he's got a good track record in general, even if

[32:14] you didn't care for that one.

[32:16] Sure, sure.

[32:17] He's someone, I have to admit, I admire his movies more than I like them, to be honest.

[32:21] Your other option, of course, and there, of course, there's only one other option.

[32:27] There are only two movies being released in all these months.

[32:32] So Hollywood really is in trouble, releasing 24 movies this year, the whole industry.

[32:38] Your other option would be Untitled Insidious Sequel.

[32:42] With a title like that, anything's possible.

[32:44] Wow, they still haven't untitled it, and it's coming out next year.

[32:47] It's going to be a tough box office weekend, I gotta tell you.

[32:50] Yeah, I'll have to go see Backsidious, that'll be the way you watch both of them at the same

[32:56] time, yeah.

[32:57] You'll have to watch all of the previous titled Insidious films to understand this untitled

[33:01] one.

[33:02] Yeah, I think I'm going to, as much as I didn't like Licorice Beets, I think I'll go see Battle

[33:07] of Back-Tank-Cross.

[33:08] Okay.

[33:09] If only because it makes me think of Back-to-Tanks.

[33:12] Yeah, sure, maybe there's a Back-to-Tank in it.

[33:16] Yeah.

[33:17] Okay, well in September, here's some interesting ones.

[33:20] You can see The Bride exclamation point, it's not the words, but it's just The Bride.

[33:26] The Bride!

[33:27] A musical adaptation of The Bride of Frankenstein, which is, listen to this, written and directed

[33:32] by Maggie Gyllenhaal, with an all-star cast, including Jessie Buckley, Christian Bale,

[33:37] Penelope Cruz, Annette Bening, and of course, Maggie's husband, Peter Sarsgaard.

[33:42] Sure.

[33:43] Or, Saw 11.

[33:46] That new fiendish traps a shill in the ideas notebook.

[33:50] This is like when Ogami Ito made Daigoro choose between the ball and the sword.

[33:56] This one's a tough one.

[33:57] To be honest, Saw's doing it right with the titles.

[34:00] Just slap a number on there.

[34:01] Just do it.

[34:02] We know how many Saw titles.

[34:03] It's great.

[34:04] Well, it has gotten confusing briefly in there, they stray from the numbers.

[34:09] Yeah, we had to go pick up the book of Saw.

[34:11] Yeah.

[34:12] For the worst one.

[34:13] The one that's just called Jigsaw.

[34:15] Yeah, I think Spiral Book of Saw, I think that's the worst one.

[34:18] Yeah.

[34:19] So, yeah, they're all going to have the same music in the end.

[34:22] I hate them all, and also kind of like them all.

[34:25] And you also love them.

[34:26] I mean, I've got to see The Bride.

[34:27] I've got to see a musical version of Bride of Frankenstein.

[34:30] And I love Jessie Buckley.

[34:31] She's great.

[34:32] I've got to admit, I know that it's not a good movie, but Spiral, from the book of Saw,

[34:38] was one of the first movies, like, after...

[34:40] That you ever saw?

[34:41] Yeah.

[34:43] After, like, I was fully vaccinated for COVID and, like, things were quieting down.

[34:48] Dude was vaxxed and waxed.

[34:49] Theaters were reopening.

[34:50] He went, he got vaxxed, then he got a waxing.

[34:53] This was the first time he could really go to the waxer.

[34:54] I was just so thirsty to see a movie in the theater that I saw, Spiral from the book of

[34:59] Saw, and had a good time, because I'm like, oh, you know, God bless seeing a movie in

[35:04] the theater.

[35:05] Yeah, that's fair.

[35:06] Yeah.

[35:07] Sure.

[35:08] Not being able to do that.

[35:09] I think that was...

[35:10] I get it.

[35:11] I think that was Nobody for me, the Bob Odenkirk action movie.

[35:12] Um, in October, this is an interesting one.

[35:17] You got, um, this is from the director of the Place Behind, Beyond the Pines, a movie

[35:22] that I didn't, you know, I'm mixed on, but it's interesting.

[35:25] It's too bad, the Place Beyond the Pines, it's too bad the first third of that is the

[35:29] most interesting part of the movie.

[35:30] And then it gets kind of less and less interesting as it goes on.

[35:33] But they've made a movie called, uh, Roof Man, which is a true crime story about...

[35:39] Another superhero movie.

[35:40] No, no.

[35:41] The powers of a roof.

[35:42] Great.

[35:43] He can cover things.

[35:44] Fantastic.

[35:45] It's a true crime story, uh, about an army officer turned thief of McDonald's franchises.

[35:52] All right.

[35:53] Now I'm listening.

[35:54] It stars Channing Tatum and Kirsten Dunst, Kirsten Dunst, um, or you could run right

[36:01] out and see Tron Aries, where they decided that what the Tron franchise needed was Jared

[36:07] Leto.

[36:09] I put Jared Leto in Tron now.

[36:10] He makes every movie better, Dan.

[36:12] Name one movie he made worse.

[36:15] You know what?

[36:16] I can't just name one movie that he made worse.

[36:18] I challenge you to limit it to one.

[36:22] So those are some saucy options.

[36:25] I will say, like, Jared Leto is often in good movies, though.

[36:30] Yeah.

[36:31] Look, I don't think it's possible for him to put in a bad performance.

[36:34] He's also, he can be a good actor.

[36:37] Yeah.

[36:38] But I'm just saying that, like, whoever puts him in movies generally picks good projects

[36:45] for, whether it's Blade Runner, Panic Room, et cetera, et cetera.

[36:49] I think he's, uh, he is best deployed as sort of a spice on the side.

[36:55] Sure.

[36:56] Yeah.

[36:57] Not the main dish.

[36:58] Yeah.

[36:59] Um, okay.

[37:00] There's a reason that he did not play the main lead in House of Gucci, but instead was

[37:02] the wacky sidekick.

[37:04] Yeah.

[37:05] Yeah.

[37:06] Um, okay.

[37:07] So I'm going to say Roofman.

[37:08] I think the first one.

[37:09] Yeah.

[37:10] Roofman.

[37:11] I'll just say Roofman.

[37:12] Yeah.

[37:13] Yeah.

[37:14] All right.

[37:15] Well, uh, in November, what we've got on the plate is, uh, days are getting shorter.

[37:19] They say November leaves are falling off the trees, going to the movies.

[37:23] Yeah.

[37:24] Turkeys are hiding.

[37:25] Um, this is when it's like, we're really starting to kick into award season.

[37:29] You know, people are starting to think, yeah.

[37:31] Word season.

[37:32] Yeah.

[37:33] Word season.

[37:34] And here's an award season movie for you.

[37:37] The Running Man.

[37:38] Edgar Wright's new adaptation of Stephen King's Richard Bachman novel, the same name, uh,

[37:43] starring newly minted, uh, star Glenn Powell.

[37:46] Yeah.

[37:47] Yeah.

[37:48] Yeah.

[37:49] The Running Man.

[37:50] Hey, they'll make, they'll make America love him.

[37:51] They're just going to keep trying.

[37:52] No, I was a doubter, but then I, you know, between Hitman and to a lesser degree, Twisters,

[37:57] I'm like, yeah.

[37:58] I get it.

[37:59] Well, here's no.

[38:00] I get it.

[38:01] I think he's, he's super handsome.

[38:02] He's super charismatic.

[38:04] He's a good actor, but I feel like it's starting to have the feeling to me of when Hollywood

[38:08] loves somebody, but America is not like, yeah, we love this.

[38:11] Like America needs to discover a star for itself in some ways or choose a star for itself.

[38:15] His name is Paul Giamatti and America loves him.

[38:18] I mean, to be honest, Paul Giamatti is one of those actors where Hollywood was not like,

[38:22] we got to put Paul Giamatti in everything, but, but America was like, we like Paul Giamatti.

[38:26] We want to see him in movies.

[38:27] Yeah.

[38:28] What's a movie that he has now broken through to America with Twisters?

[38:33] Y'all, if they made a running man movie, Paul Giamatti, I would love it.

[38:40] I would love it.

[38:41] That would be great.

[38:42] I would show up wearing merch for the movie before I'd even seen the move.

[38:47] Let's table.

[38:48] Let's table.

[38:49] You'd have just sweat pants with running man down the leg.

[38:52] Well, it's got to have a picture of Paul.

[38:55] That's on the butt.

[38:56] Yeah.

[38:57] We're going to have Paul Giamatti talks until you hear the other.

[39:00] They're rivals, Dan.

[39:01] Look, they're feuding rivals.

[39:02] Yeah.

[39:03] He plays Buzzsaw.

[39:04] You got to hear the other option available.

[39:06] We're going to start this Giamatti-Powell beef here on the podcast.

[39:09] So the question is, do you think that this is going to be a, um, wait, hold on.

[39:13] There's a second movie.

[39:14] Okay.

[39:15] Fine.

[39:16] Fine.

[39:17] Fine.

[39:18] Uh, then, then, then, then tell me what I'm curious to know what you're going to say.

[39:20] Or the other option is David, which is a computer animated movie about David and Goliath from

[39:25] the director of jungle beat the movie.

[39:28] Okay.

[39:29] And I'm very familiar with jungle beat.

[39:31] Certainly.

[39:32] Yeah.

[39:33] I was just going to say, um, I, I, I know it, you know, the, uh, the, do you think that

[39:37] this, the Edgar Wright running man is going to, uh, be closer to the original short story

[39:43] or more like the, like the big, uh, almost like this, the, the more obvious skewering

[39:49] of, uh, reality television that the, um,

[39:55] well, is it, is it like a weird thing to say both?

[39:59] Cause I mean, I do think

[40:00] I think that it probably is going to hue closer to the story

[40:05] because like the Schwarzenegger movie

[40:08] is very different than the novel

[40:10] and I feel like there's a lot of meat on that novel bone.

[40:13] But I do think that Edgar Wright could do a lot

[40:17] with a reality TV thing.

[40:20] And it feels like if he's leaning more,

[40:23] I mean, Edgar Wright I think is a very good action director

[40:26] so I'm excited to see him doing that sort of thing.

[40:30] Yeah, I mean, I'll see that,

[40:32] that's certainly the one I'm more interested in seeing.

[40:33] I hope that the Running Man, the story

[40:36] is intact on a political system.

[40:37] And the Running Man, the movie is a,

[40:40] the old one is a parody of television.

[40:41] And I hope that, I would like this one

[40:43] to steer more into the political aspect

[40:44] that it's less about,

[40:46] can you believe what they put on TV these days?

[40:47] And it's more about what kind of culture

[40:50] creates this thing in order to distract people

[40:52] or give anything to do, you know?

[40:54] Because the exciting thing about the story is that,

[40:56] he's off in the world, you know?

[40:58] And they're like, he's out in public

[40:59] and they're trying to get him.

[41:01] And people have to be either complicit

[41:02] or not complicit with that hunt, you know, so.

[41:05] Well, and I also like, you know,

[41:06] the casting of Glenn Powell,

[41:08] I mean, obviously a very handsome man,

[41:11] but more of a normal man than Arnold Schwarzenegger was.

[41:15] Where like from the start, you're like,

[41:16] oh, I mean, he'll do fine.

[41:18] Whereas in the story, like it is like a normal dude

[41:21] who has to go through this.

[41:22] Yeah, but what if they cast more of an everyman?

[41:26] Just to hear me out,

[41:27] what if instead of casting Glenn Powell,

[41:30] they cast somebody-

[41:30] Who would you think?

[41:31] Someone who's like a little bit less,

[41:32] less kind of like a leading man,

[41:34] you know, looks, that kind of thing, you know?

[41:36] Traditional, but like he's got,

[41:37] he's got like a certain charisma and charm

[41:40] that really catapults him into leading man status.

[41:43] Yeah, and Hollywood doesn't want him in that position,

[41:45] but America just demands it.

[41:47] They just demand to see him.

[41:48] Who would be that guy?

[41:49] Now don't hate me, okay?

[41:51] I know, I don't want you guys to get mad at me.

[41:53] I won't, I'll never hate you.

[41:54] You've gotten really tough on me lately.

[41:56] No, I feel like I want someone whose last name is Italian,

[41:59] but who doesn't come off as super Italian, you know?

[42:01] Yes, exactly, I think that's important.

[42:04] But at the same time, there's this element of like,

[42:06] it adds a little bit of an edge to him.

[42:09] Yeah, yeah, there's an ethnic tinge to him

[42:11] that gives him a little air of, you know,

[42:13] not just your milquetoast kind of leading man.

[42:15] Somebody who has like a pretty nice lengthy career,

[42:18] has done some high profile television work,

[42:21] as well as has played a United States president

[42:25] on television before, somebody like that.

[42:28] But also he'd be like a salt of the earth every man,

[42:30] you know?

[42:31] Somebody who's as comfortable playing a guy

[42:34] who has to be a bartender because he has debts to pay,

[42:37] and an ape that sells humans as slaves, you know?

[42:42] Someone who can do both those roles.

[42:43] Who could that be?

[42:44] Yeah.

[42:45] Eyeing the leave button on the Zoom meeting.

[42:48] Okay, so yeah, I'm going to go see Running Man, yeah.

[42:51] Okay.

[42:52] Yeah, with Paul Giamatti, hopefully.

[42:53] With Paul Giamatti.

[42:54] Thank you.

[42:55] Paul G.

[42:56] Edgar Wright is the one director I can think of right now,

[42:58] who I don't think they're going to do the climax

[42:59] of the story where he crashes an airplane into a building,

[43:02] which Stephen King has said since he's like,

[43:03] I feel like I can't write that now.

[43:05] But I wonder if he, but the fact that,

[43:07] as he is walking towards the cockpit,

[43:10] the main character is his guts are hanging out,

[43:12] and his intestine gets caught on a chair,

[43:15] and our protagonist is like,

[43:16] caught on a chair,

[43:18] and are pulling out of his body as he walks.

[43:20] I could see Edgar Wright doing that scene.

[43:21] So I remember reading that scene and being like,

[43:23] this is amazing.

[43:25] This is the most grotesque kind of hero climax

[43:27] I can imagine, you know?

[43:29] All right, well, we've reached the end of the year,

[43:33] where all the big movies come out, and here we go.

[43:36] I want to make, wait, I should mention,

[43:38] I was hard on Stewart about what he said

[43:40] about Noam Baumbach earlier, and Greta Gerwig.

[43:42] I should mention, I have nothing against Italian people.

[43:45] I don't mind if someone's very Italian.

[43:48] I was just trying to, another way to try to hint

[43:49] at Paul Giamatti, you know, but.

[43:53] In December, you have the option

[43:56] to either see Marty Supreme,

[43:59] which is reportedly A24's most expensive movie,

[44:03] a sports drama about, what?

[44:06] A sports drama about-

[44:06] Oh, so it's not about Martin Scorsese

[44:09] opening up like a diner, and that's the big dish, yeah.

[44:12] Mm, Marty Supreme.

[44:14] It's a sports drama about ping pong,

[44:17] and it stars Timothee Chalamet,

[44:18] and it's directed by Josh Safdie.

[44:21] Okay, I like the Safdie movies.

[44:22] I love Safdie, yeah.

[44:24] Safdie.

[44:25] Or, Five Nights at Freddy's 2.

[44:27] Five Nights at Freddy's 2.

[44:29] Do you dare spend-

[44:30] That's 10 nights at Freddy's.

[44:31] Six nights.

[44:31] Jesus Christ.

[44:32] Nights six through 10 at Freddy's.

[44:36] So, I can't believe that's so many nights, guys.

[44:40] It's a lot of nights to be at Freddy's.

[44:41] Do you take weekends off?

[44:42] Like, what's happening here?

[44:44] I mean, I've probably spent five nights at Freddy's

[44:47] over the course of my time here at Brooklyn.

[44:49] Yeah, yeah.

[44:50] Freddy's Bar, owned by my business partner, Matt.

[44:53] Yeah, I mean, the thing is,

[44:55] I could only spend one night at McCool's.

[44:57] More than five nights at Freddy's would be too much.

[45:00] Yeah, if you spend more than one night at Freddy's,

[45:02] see your doctor.

[45:03] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[45:04] I mean, and I only spent-

[45:05] Yeah, because the robots cut you off, yeah.

[45:07] I think I only spent three nights at the museum,

[45:10] and those were huge, and Ben Stiller's there.

[45:12] And those were spaced out over different times

[45:14] and different museums, yeah.

[45:16] I spent a night at the opera once.

[45:19] Just once.

[45:20] Okay.

[45:20] I spent, and a day at the races.

[45:22] Don't forget that.

[45:22] That was the next day.

[45:23] Yeah, true.

[45:24] Yeah.

[45:25] You think those, yeah,

[45:26] do you think those stacked on each other?

[45:29] Anyway.

[45:31] Yeah, what do you think?

[45:32] Yeah, so Marty's Supreme.

[45:33] I think I'll probably see it.

[45:34] Okay.

[45:34] I'll probably see Marty's Supreme.

[45:35] So wait, was their previous most expensive movie

[45:38] Civil War, I think?

[45:42] Also, I feel like Beau is Afraid

[45:44] must have been wildly expensive.

[45:46] It looks very expensive.

[45:48] Considering how little money I think it made for them.

[45:52] So it says, according to this,

[45:53] I'm looking at right now,

[45:54] Civil War was the previous one.

[45:56] It says, Civil War's budget,

[45:57] according to Wikipedia, was $50 million.

[45:59] This is $70 million.

[46:01] Most of that went to Jesse Plymouth for his one scene.

[46:03] He's like, I'm only available, but you gotta pay.

[46:07] I know you're gonna use this in the trailer,

[46:08] so you gotta pay me $50 million.

[46:11] That's the whole budget.

[46:12] It's the best scene.

[46:13] He's great.

[46:15] And his, it's, I mean,

[46:17] he probably didn't have to get paid that much

[46:19] since his wife is the star of the movie, also.

[46:22] Yeah.

[46:23] Probably, probably not.

[46:25] But again, we're talking about a different movie

[46:27] than the one with, yeah, so Marty's Supreme.

[46:28] I'm curious how this sports drama

[46:30] could cost that much money.

[46:31] Maybe they're holding a Super Bowl.

[46:33] But yeah, Beau's Afraid.

[46:34] I wonder what the budget for that was.

[46:35] That did look very expensive.

[46:37] Check it out.

[46:37] And LuPone doesn't come cheap.

[46:39] No.

[46:41] That's what her business card says.

[46:44] Yeah, don't come cheap.

[46:45] It says, according to Wikipedia,

[46:46] the budget was $35 million.

[46:48] Wow.

[46:49] That's a lot.

[46:50] It's all up on screen.

[46:51] It is all up screen.

[46:52] I think more is on screen, even than that.

[46:55] Yeah, I'll watch it.

[46:56] I haven't watched it yet.

[46:58] But I'm afraid.

[46:59] Well.

[47:00] You haven't watched, wait,

[47:01] Beau's Afraid you haven't watched,

[47:02] or the other one?

[47:03] I haven't watched Beau's Afraid, yeah.

[47:04] There's some stuff in it that I loved,

[47:05] and some stuff in it where I was like,

[47:07] movie, you should have cut this out.

[47:08] Don't have this in here.

[47:10] It's a singular, certainly a singular vision.

[47:12] You know?

[47:13] You like movies that are,

[47:14] I mean, I know that you like to,

[47:16] you like, speaking of the Softie Brothers,

[47:18] you like movies that are sort of anxiety,

[47:21] fever, dreams.

[47:22] And Beau's Afraid is definitely that.

[47:24] It certainly is.

[47:25] Certainly those opening scenes where it's in the city.

[47:26] It's nonstop anxiety.

[47:28] Yeah.

[47:28] Yeah, cool.

[47:29] Yeah, it made me think of,

[47:31] I mean, just the trailer made me think

[47:33] of Synecdoche, New York.

[47:35] Yeah, they're very different movies,

[47:37] but they're in some ways, they're very similar movies.

[47:38] You know?

[47:39] But I would say the main character in Synecdoche, New York,

[47:42] he causes trouble for himself in a way

[47:44] that seemed less like he was a doofus than Beau does.

[47:48] There are times in Beau's Afraid where I'm like,

[47:49] Beau, just fucking do what you're supposed to do.

[47:51] Like, this is not that difficult.

[47:54] Straight up a fly right, Beau.

[47:56] When Nathan Lane is like, Beau, we can't take you today,

[47:58] Beau should have been like,

[47:59] well, then I'll just go on my own.

[48:00] Like, I don't need you.

[48:01] I can find another way to get where I'm going.

[48:02] I don't need you to drive me.

[48:04] But Beau's afraid.

[48:04] He's very afraid.

[48:05] So.

[48:06] I feel like that is the one thing we know.

[48:09] But I think the thing that the movie can't quite decide

[48:11] is how afraid he is.

[48:13] What was the original title?

[48:14] What was the working title?

[48:16] Beau is Not Afraid.

[48:17] And then they made a big change in the story.

[48:19] It's called like Heartbreak Boulevard or something.

[48:21] Oh, really?

[48:22] It was something different.

[48:24] That would be a terrible title.

[48:26] I don't think that was that specific thing,

[48:28] but it was something weird.

[48:29] Cool.

[48:30] So that was.

[48:31] It was originally titled Disappointment Boulevard.

[48:33] Okay.

[48:34] So that's a year of those.

[48:36] Which are you most excited for?

[48:38] And why is it the dinosaur?

[48:42] Is there a dinosaur one?

[48:43] What's that?

[48:44] Jurassic world one.

[48:44] Jurassic world.

[48:50] I love movies.

[48:51] So I'm gonna see them all, you know?

[48:52] Yeah.

[48:53] I don't have to pick one.

[48:54] No, this is like the, look, I've made, you know,

[48:56] like I said, I stacked it with some silly choices in there,

[48:58] but there's some movies in there

[49:00] that I'm really excited to see.

[49:02] You know, it's nice to have something to look forward to

[49:07] in this life.

[49:08] In 2025, yeah.

[49:09] Yeah.

[49:11] And that, of course, was our comprehensive

[49:13] and very serious preview of the next year in film

[49:18] for The Flophouse.

[49:19] I've been Dan McCoy.

[49:21] And I'm Stuart Wellington.

[49:22] And I'm Elliot Kalin saying,

[49:23] even if all the other movies are crap,

[49:25] you gotta believe Hollywood will release

[49:26] at least one good movie next year.

[49:28] And I can't wait to see it.

[49:30] Bye.

[49:32] Bye.

[49:36] Okay, let's do this.

[49:37] Mini!

[49:42] Let me test.

[49:43] If you don't mind.

[49:44] Let me finish it.

[49:46] Alex, leave in that,

[49:47] that Mortal Kombat techno remix somewhere.

[49:50] Just put the lens somewhere.

[49:54] Most impressive.

[49:57] Friendship.

[49:58] Get over here!

[50:00] Maybe, maybe at the end, maybe you don't just like stick it in the middle.

[50:05] No, yeah, just insert it in the middle. Dynamically insert it in the middle.

[50:07] Yeah, yeah, okay.

[50:08] Do it dynamically.

[50:09] Do everything dynamically.

[50:12] Um, okay.

[50:15] Oh my god.

[50:18] Maximum fun.

[50:20] A worker-owned network.

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FH Mini 120 - Coming Attractions in 2025

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