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FH Mini #121 - Hi, Resolutions!
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Hi, floppers, before we start this episode,
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I just wanted to remind you,
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we are in the middle of Flop TV season two.
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That's right, the one hour internet televised
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Flophouse TV show is here for you
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the first Saturday of every month through February.
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Just go to theflophouse.simpletics.com
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and get your tickets or season pass
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for this all new Flophouse TV stuff.
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We're covering movies we've never covered before,
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we've got video segments, it's amazing.
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Just go to theflophouse.simpletics.com
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for Flop TV season two.
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This time, it's personal.
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Hello, everybody.
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Welcome to another Flophouse mini.
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That's right, here at the Flophouse podcast,
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we often watch a bad movie and then talk about it.
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But every other week, we do other stuff,
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sometimes movie related, sometimes not movie related.
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Which kind is it this week?
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I guess you'll have to listen to find out.
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My name is Elliot Kalin and I want to apologize
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if the audio that you're hearing from me is not great.
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As talked about in our previous episode,
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Joker Follier Ducks, I am currently not at my home
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because of the Los Angeles fire situation.
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I am safe, my family is safe, thank you very much.
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If you would like to donate to any of the organizations
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that are taking care of people
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who are affected by the fires, please do so.
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I will not see that money because I don't need it.
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Thankfully, knock on wood, I'm very lucky in this case,
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but other people need it, so please do that.
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But let's talk about other things this time
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because it's two weeks hopefully after those fires
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when you're listening to this
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and I'm joined by two great guys,
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one for each of those weeks.
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Guys, why don't you introduce yourselves?
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I'm Dan McCoy and for the second week,
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I'm Stuart Wellington.
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Great, I actually meant the guys behind you,
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but we can do it with you.
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Yeah, that's fine, we can do it with you.
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Okay, yeah.
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No, no, Dan and Stuart are the great guys
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I'm talking about and you know what?
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I should be more sincere in my appreciation of them
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because that's the kind of thing
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you might make a New Year's resolution about
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is to express to the people you love that you do love them
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rather than just making mean jokes about them,
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which is another way to show love sometimes,
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but they have to know that that's the case.
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Ah, yeah, yeah.
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And I mentioned New Year's resolutions because that's-
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Like a roast.
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Oh, it's been love.
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Like a roast.
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Exactly.
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Have you ever seen a roast, right?
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It's delicious.
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It is delicious.
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You leave it in the oven for a long time.
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You got to, you got to.
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Just like a roast joke,
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it has to take a very long time to tell it
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and then the one time the person gets it-
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And then that one guy, Jeff, what's his name,
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he shows up and eats it
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because he's the Roastmaster General.
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Yeah, that one guy, Jeff.
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I know that Jeff can talk about it.
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What's his name?
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Jeff Ross.
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Jeff Ross, yeah.
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So I'm talking about New Year's resolutions
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because it is January, I think,
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when this episode is coming out.
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Maybe it's not anymore, I don't care.
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It's January when we're recording it
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and I'm talking about New Year's resolutions today,
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the start of the year when everyone decides
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to do something to make themselves better
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or, as is often the case nowadays,
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the world decides what it's going to do
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to make itself worse throughout the year.
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Guys, let's talk about positive New Year's resolutions.
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Do you have any New Year's resolutions this year?
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Well, here's a thing that I heard recently
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that I agree with, which is it's probably,
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like, New Year's resolutions are a good way
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to set yourself up for failure if you're like,
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oh, I'm going to do, like, this whole new thing.
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I'm going to change-
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I'm going to change my life.
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Yeah, it's not going to happen that way.
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I'm going to eat, I'm going to pray,
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I'm going to love this year.
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That's three things, which is too many things for one year.
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Choose one.
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The thing that I heard suggested,
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and I think maybe this was, like,
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a New York Times wellness thing,
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who knows where I got this,
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but it was, like, double down on, like,
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the things you've identified that you think
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are positive that you've started to do.
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So I'm going to double down on, like,
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I'm going to try, keep up going to yoga.
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I'm going to try, keep avoiding reading the internet
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when it's making me sad and angry at the world.
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Jane, real quick, can you stretch your arms
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out super long yet, or is that not the stage
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you'd like to be at?
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I'm not there quite yet.
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But his teacher, Dulceum, says that he's getting there.
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Oh, wow.
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I'm going to continue to read more,
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and I'm going to continue to, like,
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figure out strategies to, you know,
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like, make myself more organized,
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like, set deadlines for myself, make more lists, et cetera.
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Those are kind of the things I'm going to double down on.
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That sounds great.
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Stuart, what about you?
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What are you going to double down on?
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I mean, I didn't know that-
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I thought this was a resolutions thing,
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not a double-down thing.
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Okay, what are you going to resolve to do?
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It's actually a double-dare thing.
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Well, let's see.
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I don't know.
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He gets more run in his nose.
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You've got to pull a flag out of those boogers.
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I think that, let's see.
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I mean, the big thing for me is I,
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the start of the year has been really stressful
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for work-related reasons.
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So I'm hoping that I can get on top of that
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a little better, and also I've been struggling
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with some upper respiratory stuff,
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and that between those two things,
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it's kind of messed up my gym schedule,
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and I'd like to get back into a consistent,
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get my gym schedule back on track,
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not for any reason other than
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it just makes my brain feel better.
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How's your tanning and laundry doing?
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Oh, Dan, my laundry game's on point.
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Tanning, I haven't been to a tanning,
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I went to a tanning booth a couple times
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before I went to Australia last year,
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and I still have a tan line from like
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a little like bikini-sized tan line.
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It's pretty funny.
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I would have a doctor look at that.
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That doesn't sound right.
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Uh-huh, well, I don't know.
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I mean, a lot of people look at it,
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but they have to pay a premium price for that.
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I would be surprised if you went to a tanning booth
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and they're like, oh, we don't know how to tan.
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Just tattoo this line on him,
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and then you have a tattoo of a tan line
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and you don't know.
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Uh-huh, but the other thing is I have a goal
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that I'd like to take my mom on a vacation.
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Oh, that's very sweet.
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That's very nice.
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For New Year's this year, my goal is to try to work less,
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to make work less the core of my life.
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Yeah.
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Make things like my family and taking care of my health
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more the core of my life,
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because too often in the choice between getting work done
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or being, or taking care of myself,
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I choose the work one, and it's not good for me.
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That being said, this is a podcast about movies, guys.
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It's not like a wellness podcast,
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and so I want, it's not even a Road to Wellville podcast.
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Yeah, the Wellington podcast.
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That's true.
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That's a Wellington podcast.
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At least a third of it.
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And then we always talk about that guy,
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that crazy general who probably took Napoleon down.
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Yeah, I have a good name.
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I could be like a wellness fucking guru.
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Yeah, you should.
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Wellness of Wellington.
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Yeah, Wellness of Wellington, you should do that.
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All I should do is say,
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I just have to be really confident
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when I make my social media,
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my forward-facing social media videos.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that's the main problem with your videos,
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is not enough confidence.
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Oh man, apparently I'm taking some of the heat
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that he was previously directing in Elliot.
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Everyone gets a turn.
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Yeah, Dan is like the wheel of fate.
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I got some fucking splash damage on that one.
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I was trying to think if there are any movies
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about New Year's resolutions.
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And at the time I was putting this together,
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I was in the middle of fleeing from a natural disaster,
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so I wasn't able to do much research.
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And so I was trying to think,
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the only one that came to mind,
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and I can't remember if it's a New Year's movie or not,
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is what, Yes Man with Jim Carrey,
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the one where he says yes to everything.
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But that might not be a New Year's resolution.
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That might just be a thing that he decides.
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Yeah, that he decides to do.
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What about the mask?
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Is that a New Year's resolution?
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That he's gonna wear the mask more?
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I have to be zanier.
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Yeah, it's dumb and dumber, a New Year's movie.
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They're like, we need to be not just dumb, but dumber.
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What about that movie, is it Resolution?
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The one where they're at a dinner party for New Year's
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and a comet's passing super close,
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or a meteor's passing close, and they like.
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Oh, I think you're thinking, is that Coherence?
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Coherence, the one with the alternate dimension stuff.
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I think Resolution is a movie, but I'm not sure what it is.
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Maybe a movie about photography.
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I don't know, does the movie,
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we never did New Year's Eve for the podcast,
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which surprised me when looking back recently
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that we didn't do it.
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I think we didn't do it on purpose
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because none of us wanted to watch it,
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but we probably should have done it, yeah.
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Oh, no, I think I recommended this one.
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Resolution is from, what's the Benson
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and Justin Benson, Aaron Moorhead.
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It's their movie about a friend basically tying
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another friend up in a cabin in the woods
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so that the pigs wean.
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I saw the movie that came after that
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that sort of was related by, did you see that one?
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I don't think I've seen any of those movies.
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So those are not New Year's resolution movies, right?
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Okay, well, we have done no research.
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We haven't come up with any.
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We could easily look now on the computer,
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but I think instead I'd like to talk about something else,
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which is New Year's resolutions
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for things related to movies.
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So not movies about New Year's resolutions.
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We've failed abysmally at that.
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And for next year, our resolution can be
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to learn a couple movies that involve New Year's resolutions.
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There's gotta be a rom-com with a New Year's resolution.
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There's got to be.
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Either where-
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Hey, listeners, write in.
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One, two, three, Flop Street.
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We are too lazy to do the work ourselves.
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You write in.
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Just write to Dan's home address.
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Let me get it right here.
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Hold on.
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Which is-
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Oh.
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It's doing-
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So let's think about some New Year's resolutions
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for movie franchises.
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These movie franchises, they have their ups,
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they have their downs.
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They're kind of like self-aware, sentient people
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at this time.
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And they could really have some restarts right now.
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So if we were one of these New Year's resolutions,
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one of these movie franchises,
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what would the New Year's resolution for that franchise be?
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That's something I want to talk about with you today
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on an episode of The Flophouse.
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I'm calling The American Resolution.
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Oh, okay.
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The Resolutionary War.
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Oh yeah, that's even better.
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You know what, let's call it,
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except I don't like that war aspect of it.
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Let's call it The Resolutionary-
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Is that a thing?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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OK.
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You know what?
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It's called Dance Dance Resolutions.
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It's called Dance Dance Resolutions.
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You know.
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So let's start with the biggest franchise of them all.
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It's got three letters.
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Gimme an M. Gimme a C. Gimme a U. That spells McHugh, which is the name of the Marvel universe.
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And so what would the MCU's New Year's resolution be?
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I mean, probably to release a movie.
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They haven't done one in a while, right?
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When was the last movie?
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I do.
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Well, I, I feel like they are holding firm to the thing that would have been the resolution
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I recommend.
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Which is do less stuff.
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Do less stuff.
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Yes.
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I know they've got that Captain America movie coming out.
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I thought you were saying, you're saying more Kang.
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You did say, Dan, you did say more Kang, but only if a specific actor was playing it.
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You know who was.
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No.
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Paul Giamatti.
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Kevin Spacey.
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We went two different directions there, Stu.
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Yeah.
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It was Paul Giamatti.
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Yeah.
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Well, I do feel like.
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How great would Paul Giamatti be as Kang?
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He'd be so fucking good.
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He would be fantastic as Kang.
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You know, bringing up Kang sort of points to the thing that I probably would say.
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Oh, the Katherine Hepburn movie bringing up Kang?
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I think that they tried to jump right into the idea of like, let's rebuild another giant
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arc with a giant villain.
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And like, look, you know, I I'll be interested in whether they can pull that off again, maybe
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in the future.
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But I don't think that that's the right move right after going through Endgame and Infinity
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War and whatnot.
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I feel like I would like to see a few more things that just kind of exist on their own
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that aren't so heavily interconnected.
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I really enjoyed the Agatha All Along series because I felt like it stood on its own feet.
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Even though, wasn't that like, didn't that come out of.
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It came out of WandaVision, but it wasn't.
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WandaVillain and WandaVision.
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Yeah.
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It doesn't feel like it necessarily has a lot to do with other MCUs.
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I know.
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I saw Billboard.
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There's like a new Captain America movie came out where someone is punching his shield,
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but I don't know anything else about it.
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I think it's a Red Hulk.
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Harrison Ford.
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Oh, it is a Red Hulk.
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I heard it was a Red Hulk.
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I did not like that the the lag time between something being introduced in the comics and
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it being in the movies and TV shows has gotten so short in a way that is uncomfortable to
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me, where it used to be like only the most famous superheroes got movies.
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They had to be around for decades.
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And then suddenly you got Red Hulks showing up and things.
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How recent is Red Hulk?
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I mean, like 10 years ago still, but, you know, it's something like that.
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It's really important to Elliott that the established hierarchy of things stays in place.
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Yes.
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Thank you.
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Where is my Dark Hawk movie?
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He's been around for way more years than Red Hulk.
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Dark Hawk and Sleepwalker?
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Please.
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Yeah, please.
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The Rookies of 1991, I think it was.
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Where's my New Warriors movie?
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Come on.
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Give me that.
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I mean, they tried to make a New Warriors TV show, and it didn't.
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And if you want to make some for adults, do Old Warriors first.
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Yeah, do like Johnny Blaze and the Rise of the Midnight Suns or whatever.
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Come on, baby.
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Yes, please.
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Thank you.
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I mean, they're doing Blade.
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That's a perfect time to get some more Midnight Suns in there.
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Aren't they?
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I thought like.
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I mean, they did Morbius, I guess.
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They keep pushing it.
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Blade is the.
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Dog, a Blade movie is so easy.
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Like, you do a vampire rave.
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Yes.
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You give them a sick-ass katana and a trench coat.
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Yes.
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That's a movie.
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That's a movie.
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I feel like Mahershala Ali being like, I want to do Blade kind of cursed it just because.
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I mean, like, I think it would be great.
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I would love it.
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He's a great actor, but I think that suddenly they got the yips and they're like, oh, it's
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going to be classy now, you know, whereas like a Blade movie doesn't need to be.
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When I bet I bet you he doesn't want to be that classy if I'm him.
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Yeah, he wants he does.
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It's like there's when you see sometimes there's actors who do like a big action movie or a
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dumb action movie and people are like, oh, look at them slumming.
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And it's like, I don't know.
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I bet there's a part of Cate Blanchett that loves the idea of being a movie where she's
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like shooting robots and bounty hunters and stuff like that.
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I guess when there's that scene in Return of the Jedi, when Luke Skywalker is in the
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Rancor's fist and I read something Luke Skywalker was like where Mark Hamill was like, that's
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why you do these.
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Like, that's what I've always wanted to do.
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Yeah.
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I'm in a giant monster's fist.
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And again, not to bring up Paul Giamatti again, but it's like the conversation he had with
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his agent when he was in the Planet of the Apes movie and his agent's like, shouldn't
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you be a character that you can see their face?
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And he's like, Rick Baker is doing these makeup.
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He's like, if I'm a Planet of the Apes movie, I want to be an ape.
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Just like the Nirvana song.
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Ape me, my friends.
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Your friend in that case is Rick Baker.
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Yeah.
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Oh, man.
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What I wouldn't give.
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So the MCU, they're already living out the resolution, which is slow it down.
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Maybe not so much stuff.
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Now, what about the DCU or DICU, which is the detective comics universe, so-called because
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it relies on detective stories and mysteries, mostly.
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Detective Chimp, Slam Bradley, all the big detective characters.
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Booster Gold's a detective, right?
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What about the question?
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The question is kind of a detective, although he's really more of an Ayn Randian figure.
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What about Zatanna?
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Is that her name?
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What's her name?
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She's not a detective.
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She's a magician.
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Yeah.
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So she's a magician with the most easily crackable magic code, which is just saying things backwards.
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Oh.
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What would be your New Year's resolution for the DCU and the people in charge thereof?
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They got that new Superman movie coming out.
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My resolution would have been make a movie that just has one character in it.
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They've already broken that because there's a ton of other characters in the Superman movie.
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I mean, I think that-
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By which I mean super-powered characters.
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Obviously, I don't want a Superman movie where it's just one character, Superman, by himself
[15:52]
in space talking to himself.
[15:54]
I mean, I want non-powered characters in there.
[15:56]
I don't want crap-slash-tape starring Superman.
[15:59]
That's not what I'm looking for.
[16:00]
Yeah.
[16:01]
Well, I feel like the right actor could pull it off.
[16:04]
Yeah.
[16:05]
It's hard to know-
[16:06]
Look, if Jefferson is going to do a Superman movie, then it should just be him.
[16:09]
I saw him in I Am My Own Wife.
[16:10]
He was amazing.
[16:11]
Yeah.
[16:12]
It's hard to know what to recommend because the DCU is sort of under new management now.
[16:16]
You don't know where it's going quite yet to even make a recommendation.
[16:21]
But I would say I like James Gunn a lot.
[16:26]
I liked him before he did Guardians of the Galaxy.
[16:30]
I liked Slither.
[16:32]
I liked Tromeo and Juliet.
[16:34]
I enjoy his stuff, and I think he certainly probably has a wider range than he has shown.
[16:44]
I mean, the man wrote a Scooby-Doo movie or maybe both of them.
[16:48]
I'm not sure.
[16:49]
And it looks like Superman shows that range, but I am a little nervous.
[16:55]
For DCU, he's done Suicide Squad, Peacemaker, Creature Commandos, which are all kind of in that same vibe.
[17:06]
I guess my resolution is make sure that the vibe shifts.
[17:11]
That the Superman vibe should not be the same as the Suicide Squad vibe.
[17:14]
Yeah.
[17:15]
Yeah.
[17:16]
Yeah.
[17:17]
Yeah.
[17:18]
For DC, I don't know that DC's stable that well, but there's a character that –
[17:24]
there's something – there's a character I really liked.
[17:27]
Power Girl, I think.
[17:29]
There's something about her.
[17:32]
I wonder what it is about Power Girl that draws short attention.
[17:36]
And obviously Lobo.
[17:37]
All Lobo stuff.
[17:38]
Sure.
[17:40]
You're like, I want DC to start cranking out their hit characters.
[17:44]
Lobo, Power Girl, Etrigan, Commandee.
[17:47]
Man, yeah.
[17:48]
Heck yeah.
[17:49]
There was – yeah.
[17:50]
I mean, I like – like I'm a sucker for all the weirdo DC characters.
[17:55]
I like all the weird characters and I also like – who's the – oh, I like All-Star Superman.
[18:03]
So if the Superman movies like All-Star Superman, I'll be okay.
[18:06]
And that's my assumption is that it's going to be more like All-Star Superman because that was a great book.
[18:11]
But what if they went the opposite way?
[18:13]
What if DC like took the parent protect search off, the safe search,
[18:19]
and made a Joker movie that was like really twisted?
[18:22]
What if they made a Joker movie that was like all about how life sucks and everything's bad and Batman's not in it
[18:27]
and it's just super dark and grim?
[18:29]
But it's a musical.
[18:30]
But it's a musical.
[18:31]
Eventually.
[18:32]
That makes it even twisteder.
[18:33]
Yeah, so much – just like that movie Twisteders starring Glenn Powell.
[18:37]
What if – I imagine the – someone who is not a – the world's biggest Twisted Sister fan
[18:44]
falls into a coma right before the movie Twister comes out.
[18:47]
They wake up right before the movie Twisters come out and they assume it's about Twisted Sister
[18:51]
and they're so disappointed when they go to see it.
[18:54]
Like you can't even put them on the soundtrack?
[18:56]
Yeah, an hour in he's like, I'm not going to take this anymore.
[18:59]
Speaking of soundtracks, we didn't talk about this on our Joker Part 2 episode,
[19:04]
but it's pretty fucked up with all the songs.
[19:07]
They didn't put The Joker by the Stephen Miller Band in there.
[19:10]
Yes, you'd expect it to be in there.
[19:12]
Well, he's not a midnight toker.
[19:13]
He would have crushed it.
[19:15]
He would have been, yeah.
[19:16]
Let's go through these a little bit –
[19:17]
He tokes in the middle of the day like a toasted douche.
[19:20]
Let's do two more and then I just want to mention Flop TV again
[19:26]
and then we'll do this quick because Dan has dinner plans.
[19:29]
You can hear us, Alex.
[19:31]
You might want to edit out that tummy rumbling sound that's coming from Dan's mic.
[19:36]
Turn off the ball-busting gain on Elliot a little higher for that.
[19:43]
I'm just worried that Dan's going to look at Stewart and Stewart's going to turn into a turkey leg.
[19:47]
And I'll be like, what?
[19:49]
I don't understand.
[19:50]
Why are you licking your lips at me?
[19:52]
So the Fast and the Furious franchise, what's your New Year's resolution for the Fast and the Furious franchise?
[19:56]
What's your New Year's resolution for the Fast and the Furious franchise?
[20:00]
Resolution would be spend more time with my family, but they've got that covered.
[20:03]
So what should they do this year?
[20:05]
Yeah, they got to go.
[20:06]
So they've they started off pretty small, right?
[20:09]
Not in size, but like in scope.
[20:12]
And then the last one, they were in outer space.
[20:14]
They have to go back in time.
[20:15]
They've got to do a time travel one.
[20:17]
I would say as much as part of me would be like different dimensions.
[20:21]
I feel like that's been overdone lately.
[20:23]
Nobody's into multiverses.
[20:25]
Go back in time again.
[20:27]
That's that's my what I keep hearing from people when I ask them what they think is
[20:30]
next in the series as they go.
[20:31]
Vin Diesel's got to go back in time and see Paul Walker again, like they like the John
[20:35]
Toretto of now has to go back and see the him of back then and see his best friend again.
[20:40]
And what happened?
[20:41]
You know, one of those cars goes through a fucking time tunnel.
[20:44]
Yes, up on the foggy old streets of London town.
[20:47]
He runs over Jack the Ripper.
[20:50]
Or I mean, this could be finally the Fast and Furious back to the future.
[20:53]
They call it back to the furious or something like that.
[20:56]
It's like we got a new we got a new mechanic working in the shop and it's Doc Brown.
[21:00]
Oh, we hear your cars.
[21:03]
They got to go to 88 miles per hour.
[21:04]
He's like, yeah, we do that all the time.
[21:08]
I feel like this one's hard because I feel like the things I like about the streets of
[21:12]
London.
[21:13]
Yeah, well, then it becomes not the mystery of the Ripper is becomes taken over the mystery
[21:19]
of what happened to the man who was hit by some kind of fast moving object.
[21:23]
Yeah, I feel like the things I like about it are different than what other people like
[21:27]
about it.
[21:28]
Yeah, you're a cool girl.
[21:30]
Other.
[21:30]
Well, I mean, no, I just don't understand.
[21:33]
I don't understand the series the way that like the real fans do, because I guess the
[21:39]
series hit some exact right level of goofiness for them at a certain point.
[21:44]
And now that now in the most recent one, they're like too goofy.
[21:48]
I'm like, this is not that much different than what's come before.
[21:52]
I don't see the difference that you're seeing.
[21:54]
You're like, you saw the one with Charlize Theron with cornrows, right?
[21:58]
Or whatever.
[21:59]
Braids.
[21:59]
And also like all the stuff about family.
[22:02]
I'm like, I guess this is heartfelt for like the fans.
[22:05]
But for me, this seems like total tacked on nonsense.
[22:09]
So I say kill half of the family.
[22:14]
There's such a cast extension.
[22:15]
So much cast creep.
[22:16]
I just got to focus on some core.
[22:20]
The family love to me in those movies is similar to the the montage climax music from a saw
[22:27]
movie in something that I'm like, this has to be here.
[22:32]
This is very essential to this movie.
[22:34]
Yeah, it doesn't.
[22:36]
It just like, yeah, yeah, there's just some kind of connection that I need to have.
[22:41]
Otherwise, what is what does everything else matter?
[22:44]
You need to have that.
[22:45]
So Stewart's New Year's resolution for Fast Furious is time travel.
[22:48]
Dan's is kill half the cast.
[22:50]
All right.
[22:50]
Or you have to kill them, like send them off somewhere, like split it off, like have them
[22:54]
on two different adventures.
[22:55]
So it's like the blue and gold teams of X-Men in the early 90s.
[22:58]
Or the two different Pokemon games you could buy.
[23:00]
Yeah, yeah, of course.
[23:01]
Sure, sure.
[23:02]
OK, next, we're going to go to a quick spot for Flop TV.
[23:05]
But first, the New York Mets.
[23:06]
What's your what's your New Year's resolution for the New York Mets?
[23:09]
That's a franchise.
[23:11]
I guess just like do it better than before.
[23:15]
They did pretty good, but they didn't do as good as Los Angeles.
[23:20]
Yes, that's true.
[23:21]
So maybe they should watch how Los Angeles did and maybe do that.
[23:26]
Just do exactly that.
[23:28]
OK, yeah, you heard it here first.
[23:30]
New York Mets do that.
[23:31]
I'm going to take a quick moment just to remind people about Flop TV.
[23:34]
Flop TV, the last episode of the season is coming up on February 1st.
[23:41]
That's right.
[23:41]
February 1st, the first Saturday in February.
[23:43]
We'll be talking about Ninja Turtles 2, Secret of the Ooze on Flop TV,
[23:47]
the TV version of the Flop House.
[23:49]
Go to theflophouse.simpletics.com.
[23:52]
Did you miss the whole season?
[23:54]
Did you?
[23:54]
Really?
[23:55]
That's OK.
[23:56]
If you get a season pass now, which is six shows for the price of five,
[24:00]
you will get access to the videos for all those shows.
[24:02]
And this is a really fun season.
[24:04]
We've had a great time talking about movie sequels, doing crazy presentations,
[24:09]
doing even crazier videos.
[24:11]
This has been super fun.
[24:12]
It's been a blast.
[24:13]
A great season.
[24:14]
Season 2 of Flop TV, go to theflophouse.simpletics.com.
[24:17]
Again, that's theflophouse.simpletics.com, where you can get season passes or,
[24:23]
I guess, individual tickets for the individual recordings.
[24:26]
Again, I don't know why you'd want to do that unless you were like,
[24:28]
I only want to hear them talk about Highlander 2, The Quickening,
[24:31]
and I do not want to hear them talk about other movies.
[24:33]
But we hope you can join us on February 1st, the first Saturday in February,
[24:37]
9 p.m. Eastern, 6 p.m. Pacific, theflophouse.simpletics.com.
[24:41]
And then it'll be time to put those flop episodes
[24:44]
into the Flophouse vault after February.
[24:46]
Those videos will be up all the way through the month of February.
[24:50]
So even if you miss that program,
[24:52]
you can still get a season pass to watch all those shows.
[24:55]
Remember, February is the shortest month of the year,
[24:57]
so you don't have as much time as in other months.
[25:00]
It's a good public service announcement.
[25:01]
Yeah, thank you.
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OK, back to New Year's resolutions.
[25:55]
No.
[25:56]
Now, another franchise that just had a new release was Lord of the Rings
[26:00]
with their War of the Rararararim.
[26:02]
The Rararim.
[26:04]
Stuart, what's a Rararim?
[26:04]
I'm going to beat your fucking face.
[26:07]
Look, I like characters and franchises with real names like Kang.
[26:13]
I don't know what a Rararim is,
[26:15]
but what should the Lord of the Rings resolve for this this new year?
[26:19]
Oh, damn.
[26:20]
Oh, damn, dog.
[26:22]
I think if you've got limited source material
[26:26]
and you've essentially used it all by now,
[26:29]
you got one of two paths that you can take.
[26:31]
OK, make the most expensive television show in the history of television.
[26:35]
One is, hey, maybe just stop.
[26:38]
Just stop now.
[26:39]
You don't got to do more.
[26:40]
We got it.
[26:41]
You can stop.
[26:42]
Don't don't squeeze that orange anymore.
[26:44]
All the juice is out of there.
[26:46]
Or you do something vastly different within that world
[26:50]
that's genuinely creative and different,
[26:54]
rather than just sort of like...
[26:55]
So something like bright, you're saying,
[26:57]
where it's like Lord of the Rings, but nowadays...
[26:59]
Maybe I can eat the lemon, the orange peel from that previous metaphor.
[27:04]
Now, I wonder if they could do something like...
[27:05]
So this is something I just saw.
[27:07]
So we were in Atari yesterday stocking up on clothes.
[27:10]
That's where we had to leave our house.
[27:12]
But I saw there are toys now that are Ninja Turtles, He-Man crossover toys,
[27:17]
where it's a Ninja Turtles character merged with a He-Man character.
[27:21]
And there's also a Masters of the Universe Stranger Things double toy set.
[27:25]
So should they do something like that with Lord of the Rings, Stuart,
[27:28]
where they mesh it with Stranger Things or Ninja Turtles or something like that?
[27:31]
I'm just thinking how badly we need Griffin Newman to weigh in on this.
[27:35]
Yeah, we do.
[27:36]
What I would say, yeah, of course...
[27:37]
For his April Ork O'Neil character.
[27:40]
Yeah.
[27:41]
I feel like you're right.
[27:43]
A crossover is always a good idea.
[27:44]
But you know what?
[27:45]
What I think they should really do...
[27:47]
I think it's time for just a silly one, you know?
[27:49]
A goofy one, you know?
[27:50]
Do their own...
[27:51]
Or Tom Bombadil.
[27:53]
Do their own Spaceballs, but for Lord of the Rings.
[27:57]
I mean, that's kind of like the plan at one point for Jaws 3,
[28:00]
when it was going to be Jaws 3, People Zero,
[28:01]
and National Lampoon was going to be the ones that made it.
[28:05]
That fell apart because they...
[28:06]
I listened to a podcast, an episode of The Greatest Movies Never Made,
[28:09]
where they went through the script for it.
[28:10]
And they're like, there's not a lot of shark in this parody of Jaws.
[28:15]
But I would love to see a funny Lord of the Rings movie.
[28:18]
I think that'd be very good.
[28:20]
I feel like Peter Jackson has not gone back to his roots of being like a funny dude,
[28:26]
a funny filmmaker.
[28:27]
You want the Peter Jackson of bad taste and meet the Feebles and so forth
[28:31]
to do a Lord of the Rings movie.
[28:33]
Yeah, Dead Alive, aka Brain Dead.
[28:35]
Yeah.
[28:36]
Even The Frighteners.
[28:37]
Frighteners.
[28:38]
The Frighteners is a funny movie.
[28:39]
I mean, Stuart would be mad at me.
[28:41]
I think that might be my favorite Peter Jackson movie, is The Frighteners.
[28:43]
But I don't know.
[28:44]
It's a real fun house ride of a movie.
[28:47]
It's such a bonkers movie.
[28:49]
It's really fun.
[28:49]
You get to see John Aspen as the ghost of a cowboy who has sex with a mummy.
[28:54]
That's great.
[28:54]
Jeffrey Combs has a bunch of...
[28:55]
Jeffrey Combs has scars all over him.
[28:57]
He's all scarred up.
[28:58]
Wait, his body's a roadmap of pain?
[29:01]
I believe so.
[29:02]
Yeah.
[29:02]
So here's in the similar to Lord of the Rings.
[29:04]
This is another movie trilogy franchise.
[29:06]
And I was wondering, what's your news resolution for the before trilogy?
[29:10]
You know, before sunrise, before midnight, before sunset.
[29:13]
Probably find new times of the day.
[29:16]
Before lunchtime, something like that.
[29:18]
Yeah.
[29:19]
I mean, I feel like...
[29:20]
Before primetime.
[29:21]
I feel like they could definitely, like, hang out and talk more.
[29:26]
Okay.
[29:27]
I mean, I feel like that was kind of the point of the last movie,
[29:29]
was they had stopped hanging out and talking.
[29:30]
And it hurt their relationship.
[29:32]
Yeah.
[29:32]
Yeah.
[29:33]
But they did in Greece.
[29:34]
I think they could go to another beautiful location and walk around and talk.
[29:38]
Guys, I still haven't seen the third one.
[29:41]
And part of it's because I don't want to see the march.
[29:44]
I understand that.
[29:45]
That's fucking fair.
[29:46]
That's fair.
[29:46]
But it's a great movie.
[29:47]
It's really great.
[29:49]
It feels really real.
[29:50]
Like, yeah.
[29:51]
There's definitely a scene where they are, like, kind of arguing while partially clothed.
[29:57]
Where I'm like, this is the most real shit I've ever seen.
[29:59]
Yeah.
[30:00]
Well, it's like that scene in that Fifty Shades of Grey movie,
[30:02]
where they're arguing while getting dressed.
[30:03]
I'm like, yeah, this is what happens.
[30:04]
You know, like it's shortcuts or shortcuts.
[30:07]
Yeah. Nude arguments.
[30:10]
Or in in in is it in Don't Look Now
[30:14]
when he they he's he's brushing his teeth with no clothes on.
[30:17]
And I'm like, yeah, that happens.
[30:18]
Sometimes you're brushing your teeth and no clothes on.
[30:19]
Or like or like and then later on, you're like, what's this on my
[30:24]
It's just toothpaste, Dan.
[30:25]
How'd that get down there?
[30:27]
Yeah, it's a killer dwarf, Dan.
[30:30]
Get off of me.
[30:35]
It's just like in Snakes on a Plane.
[30:36]
Yeah. So let's let's go on to another franchise.
[30:41]
This is a beloved one for Dan the Muppets, Dan.
[30:43]
What's your New Year's resolution for the Muppets franchise?
[30:47]
Look, I've liked a couple things post Jim Hansen that the Muppets
[30:54]
have done, but he says he'll have the cast.
[30:56]
I'm going to be killed.
[30:59]
Well, being bunny.
[30:59]
Sure.
[31:00]
We can all do without him.
[31:01]
Yeah, send them to the Grey Havens or whatever, you know, okay,
[31:05]
you brought me back.
[31:06]
Okay.
[31:06]
Now Muppets Lord of the Rings that that's the thing that they
[31:09]
should make.
[31:10]
Yeah, honestly.
[31:11]
Gonzo is Gandalf.
[31:12]
You know it, you know, yeah, and so but is it going to be yeah,
[31:16]
and I guess Kermit would have to be would have an error.
[31:19]
No Kermit's fucking Aragorn.
[31:22]
Kermit is Aragorn.
[31:23]
Yeah.
[31:24]
So and then you pump up Arwen's part and that's Miss Piggy.
[31:28]
Oh, because I was going to say Miss Piggy is Aragorn.
[31:30]
You just do Miss Piggy as Aragorn.
[31:32]
That's you're right.
[31:33]
I'm being I'm being gender-specific and that's stupid.
[31:36]
Yeah.
[31:37]
Yeah.
[31:37]
Saruman.
[31:38]
Although Sam the Eagle would be a great Saruman.
[31:41]
Yeah.
[31:41]
Yeah.
[31:42]
And I guess Fozzie could be Gandalf too, but Fozzie would be
[31:44]
great Sam Gamgee.
[31:45]
Like he's basically the same.
[31:46]
Yeah.
[31:46]
No, he's a Sam.
[31:48]
Yeah.
[31:48]
Yeah.
[31:49]
Okay.
[31:49]
Yeah.
[31:49]
Gonzo is when I fill out when I fill out those quizzes that
[31:52]
tell me what Muppet I am.
[31:53]
They always say Fozzie.
[31:55]
I'm having trouble casting Gollum though.
[31:59]
That's the animal.
[32:01]
I don't know.
[32:01]
Gonzo is Gollum.
[32:03]
Oh, Gonzo is Gollum.
[32:04]
Yeah, actually Gonzo should be Gollum.
[32:05]
You're right.
[32:06]
The Muppets quiz is always telling me that I'm Lou Zealand.
[32:08]
And so I don't know what that what that means, but well, he
[32:10]
throws the fish and then they come back to him.
[32:14]
Who would animal be?
[32:14]
Because animal could be Gollum too.
[32:16]
Animal could also be Gollum.
[32:17]
Yeah, maybe there's two Gollums.
[32:20]
Wait, what a crazy idea.
[32:22]
What if animal is Aragorn?
[32:25]
It is a crazy idea.
[32:28]
That is a crazy idea.
[32:28]
Well, they call him Strider, you know.
[32:31]
Yeah, you know what?
[32:32]
No, I think we've solved both of these franchises.
[32:34]
We got to do Muppets Lord of the Rings.
[32:36]
That'd be wonderful.
[32:37]
Okay.
[32:38]
Now another franchise, Kellogg's.
[32:40]
Kellogg's characters.
[32:41]
You got Tony the Tiger, Snap, Crackle, Pop.
[32:44]
I know for a fact that Kellogg's is trying to get these
[32:47]
characters into the TV and film business.
[32:49]
What would you say to Kellogg's as their news resolution?
[32:52]
I mean before I was saying with the MCU, maybe don't share
[32:56]
universes so much crossovers, but here more crossovers, you
[33:01]
know, so far they've just been restricted to their own cereal
[33:03]
boxes for the most part.
[33:05]
Yeah.
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I want to see, you know, a tiger chasing them elves around.
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Yeah, like Snap, Crackle, Toucan Sam.
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Yeah, let's do that.
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Yeah, like normally I associate these characters with food,
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but what are their like hopes and dreams and shit guys?
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Yeah, that's true.
[33:20]
Yeah.
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Let's hear their backstories.
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Yeah.
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More of like on my dinner with Andres.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, Dan's just bringing up that.
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We just recently saw Wallace Shawn in the flesh.
[33:29]
Oh, sure.
[33:29]
It was.
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Oh, where'd you see him?
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I've seen him in the flesh a couple times.
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Yeah.
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So we were lucky enough to get invited to the New York Film
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Critics Circle Awards here in New York City.
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Not because of our criticism bona fides, but because we knew.
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I mean.
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Had a friend.
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You faked it until you make it, Dan.
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Yeah.
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Our friend Matt Singer had some extra tickets and he invited
[33:51]
us.
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I think it was because he emceed last year.
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So he had a very good table and he was right next to this
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year's emcee.
[33:57]
Mr.
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David Sims, who also brought along a few of his own podcasters.
[34:02]
Yeah.
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So yeah, we were seeing we got to see man.
[34:05]
Let's go down the celebs.
[34:06]
We saw Daniel excited.
[34:09]
Why not?
[34:10]
Flop house on the red carpet.
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Yeah, we're seated right next to a table with Kieran Culkin
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and Claire Danes right next to them were Adrian Brody and
[34:17]
Guy Pearce.
[34:18]
We got to see Wallace Shawn.
[34:20]
We got to see John Turturro, Carol Kane, Mike Lee, Dan.
[34:24]
Yeah, Mike Lee.
[34:25]
I'm very excited about hearing about Mike Lee and Carol
[34:27]
Kane, John Turturro and Wallace Shawn are the only ones
[34:29]
those that I've seen in real life.
[34:31]
Yeah, Wallace Shawn.
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I've seen in many restaurants and theater audiences and
[34:35]
and John Turturro I've seen just walking around the street
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whistling to himself very loudly.
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And Carol Kane and it was very sweet.
[34:42]
Like he sort of helped her down from the stage afterwards
[34:44]
and like took her hand all the way back.
[34:46]
And I was like on the verge of tears just because they
[34:49]
seemed so sweet.
[34:51]
Marianne Jean-Baptiste was there.
[34:53]
She was great.
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The director and cinematographer of Nickel Boys were there
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and the Best Picture winner was introduced by Mr.
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Robert Pattinson himself.
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Unfortunately, not doing his Mickey 17 voice which bummed
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me out.
[35:12]
So let's let's move.
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It sounds like you guys had a great time.
[35:16]
I've been I've been having fun lately too.
[35:17]
I've been doing lots of great stuff lately.
[35:19]
Yeah.
[35:19]
Yeah.
[35:20]
We I mean we sent you pictures and we're like wish you were
[35:22]
here.
[35:22]
Yeah, you sent me pictures and then you kept texting me being
[35:25]
like what why didn't you?
[35:26]
Why didn't you hurt these?
[35:28]
What's your problem, dude?
[35:30]
So I actually sent Ellie the message about how bad I felt
[35:35]
that we were living it up while he was having fun while I was
[35:40]
tucking into food that was as I would describe very fancy
[35:44]
BPF Chang's.
[35:46]
I was thinking Ellie would want me to live it up.
[35:49]
Yeah, I would I would want you both to live long want me to
[35:52]
take advantage of this open bar.
[35:54]
I will and thank you again.
[35:56]
I hope you did singer for being kind enough to let us.
[35:59]
Yeah, man.
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Singers about their party.
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He is great.
[36:01]
He's great.
[36:02]
Okay, we got two franchises left and we'll wrap up this
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episode.
[36:05]
Okay.
[36:05]
The first is the second biggest franchise in entertainment
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and and the last one we talk about is the biggest franchise
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in entertainment.
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So the second biggest franchise in entertainment Star Wars.
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What's the what's the what's the new year's resolution for
[36:19]
Star Wars?
[36:19]
I've got that skeleton crew show the acolyte did not go the
[36:22]
way that they thought it would and in fact that people were
[36:25]
not as happy with it as they hoped or rather diehard fans
[36:28]
and I don't mean fans of diehard.
[36:30]
I mean diehard fans of Star Wars.
[36:31]
Maybe fans of diehard weren't into it too.
[36:32]
Maybe they were I don't know.
[36:33]
They were like maybe John McLean is in this one.
[36:35]
Oh, he's not still he's not.
[36:37]
Yeah, but what should Star Wars do?
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I mean, it depends.
[36:41]
I feel like the fan base of Star Wars wants it to atrophy
[36:46]
they would well, they would argue that they wanted to grow
[36:49]
up with them.
[36:50]
And by that they mean they want to see lightsabers chopping
[36:52]
dudes in half.
[36:54]
Yeah, I could be wrong.
[36:57]
I don't know.
[36:57]
I mean where that happens, but like way more like blood
[37:01]
everywhere.
[37:02]
Yeah.
[37:02]
Yeah, absolute fucking mayhem.
[37:05]
The poster absolute fucking mayhem, but it was an ad for
[37:09]
absolute vodka and it's just people hitting each other with
[37:11]
their heads with those bottles.
[37:12]
Absolute mayhem.
[37:13]
Yeah.
[37:15]
Remember wait, do you guys remember when absolute vodka
[37:18]
ads were like the coolest things in the world and people
[37:21]
were putting them on the walls of their bedrooms?
[37:23]
Was this only an East Coast thing or this happened when you
[37:25]
guys grew up?
[37:26]
Did you have absolute vodka in the in the mid in the middle
[37:28]
of the country?
[37:29]
Was that just a sophisticated East Coastal thing?
[37:32]
I know we had it do the ads were in like Rolling Stone
[37:34]
magazine or yes.
[37:36]
Yeah, they all have like I remember like my cousin and
[37:39]
my sister like they would put these ads on the walls the
[37:41]
room and it was like there.
[37:42]
I remember there was a Kurt Vonnegut one and it was like,
[37:44]
oh, he's he's finally cool again.
[37:46]
Kurt Vonnegut.
[37:47]
This is he's in this absolute absolute vodka ad.
[37:49]
What was that all about?
[37:51]
Yeah, Dan.
[37:52]
What was that all about?
[37:53]
He probably you know, they offered him money to do that.
[37:56]
I mean, never mind.
[37:57]
I'm at the absolute vodka craze.
[37:58]
Maybe Star Wars.
[37:59]
You're saying Stuart you think they should grow up and have
[38:02]
lightsabers chopping people up.
[38:03]
I mean, I think that's what people that's what the audience
[38:05]
wants.
[38:07]
So not like skeleton crew, which is the exact opposite which
[38:09]
is yeah.
[38:09]
I mean, I thought people wanted the last Jedi, but I was very
[38:14]
wrong.
[38:16]
Yeah, you can't have nice things.
[38:17]
I look if it was just me again, it would be sort of like well,
[38:24]
do we have to keep doing this would be my resolution.
[38:27]
Like look you've somehow managed to take a movie franchise
[38:33]
that was at one point in my life like the most important
[38:38]
entertainment thing maybe to me like the thing that I was just
[38:42]
that just blew my mind and expanded my world and I loved it
[38:46]
now.
[38:46]
It's hard to get to Hawaii.
[38:48]
Yeah, I'm in the Sedaris first.
[38:52]
No, but I like David Sedaris or Amy Sedaris first do I need
[38:56]
although they have opinions.
[38:57]
I'd imagine do I need more of this like the only thing I've
[39:02]
enjoyed was what the and or thing and I that's the name of
[39:06]
the show the and or thing the and or thing and I think I mean
[39:09]
like if we're getting for not going to be that negative about
[39:12]
it.
[39:12]
I would say and or does something that these other things
[39:16]
haven't as effectively done, which is find to find something
[39:20]
within that storytelling that I haven't seen which is like
[39:23]
okay, what is like let's take let's take the idea of a political
[39:29]
rebellion seriously like on the ground level like what does
[39:33]
this look like in this universe?
[39:36]
So I would like even further out of the box new things to
[39:41]
happen in that we want to finally understand how the Trade
[39:44]
Federation handled trade.
[39:47]
Well, I just don't I don't you know, like I don't need to have
[39:51]
every minor character get their own series because we know
[39:55]
them already, you know, a whole bunch of funny that you the
[40:00]
you held up was Andor, which is a minor character from one of the movies, one of the spinoffs.
[40:06]
But it's a minor character from a new spinoff. It's not like, okay, well, you know, everyone
[40:11]
loves the Clone War cartoon, so what we have to do is go to that, rather than, like, there
[40:19]
are whole movies where new characters are introduced to us, and we're not like, this
[40:24]
isn't someone I know before. I've never seen any. Well, you say that, Dan, but what about
[40:28]
us? What if my solution was Muppet Star Wars? Kermit is Luke Skywalker. Miss Piggy is probably
[40:34]
Princess Leia. Fozzie is Chewbacca. Gonzo is Darth Vader. I feel like this has happened
[40:38]
already. Okay, Fozzie is Lando Calrissian. What are you talking about, Dan? No, no, no.
[40:44]
I didn't. I thought you were talking about someone else. Which of the two, Fozzie or
[40:49]
Chewbacca? Who do you think I was talking about? I don't know. Well, guys, we talked
[40:53]
about Star Wars. That's the biggest franchise in entertainment. Time to talk about the second
[40:56]
biggest franchise in entertainment. Time to talk about the biggest franchise in entertainment.
[41:01]
What do they do next? You know the one I'm talking about. That's right. Let's say it
[41:04]
all together. Property Brothers. What did the Property Brothers do in 2025? Biggest
[41:09]
franchise in entertainment. Probably a property. All I know is, like, is one of them still
[41:17]
with Zooey Deschanel? You're really up on Celebrity Goss. Yeah, I believe so, but that's
[41:25]
kind of the past and it's happened already. So the resolution can't be marry Zooey Deschanel
[41:29]
because I think that happened already. Zooey Beshamel is not a real person, but they could
[41:35]
try to make that happen. So they're brothers and they do something with property? Dan,
[41:41]
this is probably the biggest show on television. I don't. Anything that has to do with real
[41:46]
estate in entertainment, I'm like, this stresses me out in life. I don't own any real estate,
[41:53]
but the mere, like, idea of, like, looking at listings whenever we have to move is the
[41:58]
worst thing in the world to me. So I don't like seeing real estate. So once again, Dan's
[42:01]
resolution is stop doing the thing that you're doing. Just stop. Well, no, just don't show
[42:05]
it to me. Other people can enjoy it. OK, OK. And and this is not. You just don't want to
[42:10]
put your thumb on the scale of the thing you don't give a shit about. Yeah. Yeah. OK, well,
[42:15]
so I think we've got a lot of good options for everybody. Dan's go to of don't do this
[42:19]
stuff anymore. He'll have the cash. I'm like, but there's only two brothers. It's not property
[42:25]
brothers. If there's just one of them, it's just property guy, you know, property bro.
[42:31]
And I mean, all of the brothers, I don't know how well they get along. They every time I
[42:34]
see the show, it always seems like they I used to watch it sometimes because I thought
[42:38]
it was funny that they seemed to very arbitrarily pick that one wears a suit and one wears kind
[42:42]
of like construction clothes. And it seems at a certain point that just as professional
[42:46]
wrestlers would come to really dislike each other when the storyline says that they have
[42:50]
to like, they'll come to feel that it felt like the property brothers at a certain point
[42:53]
did have that that divide of like, well, you don't understand.
[42:56]
You don't work with your hands. Well, I'm the one running this business anyway. But
[43:00]
I think the other solution is a lot like the flop house, honestly. Yes. There's a lot of
[43:04]
nuanced solutions. I think honestly, the best solution we've come up with, the best resolution
[43:08]
and you can't spell resolution without solution. It's literally the re solutioning of something.
[43:14]
Muppets and stuff. Yeah, I think so. Muppet Fast and the Furious. Yes, please. The Internet
[43:20]
is in agreement with us on anything. It's that. Why isn't the MCU the Muppet Cinematic
[43:24]
Universe? Why not? Come on. Why not? Because it really hasn't been a very successful franchise
[43:31]
since the death of Benson. Oh, all right. OK, well, the one time and guys, I guess we
[43:38]
should go. I just want to see. Also, there's just one other media figure who I feel like
[43:43]
dominates the media landscape. This is an individual person, not a franchise. And I
[43:47]
just wondered, do you have a new year's resolution for them? Someone who I feel like you can't
[43:51]
talk about the modern media landscape without this person being in the center. I'm feeling
[43:55]
a rug pull here. As I keep winding it up and building up this slowly, tentatively stepping
[44:01]
out of the ice, willing to trust again off that rug. And so we're all saying it flow
[44:07]
from progressive. What does she do in 2025? It's a good question, Dan. How do you feel
[44:13]
about the Internet should get like even hornier for? I mean, that's the Internet's resolution.
[44:18]
That's not really for flow. That's true. I mean, I should keep giving them stuff to feel
[44:22]
about. Yeah, I would say nothing because apparently it doesn't really take anything.
[44:26]
It's just flow being flow. I would say branch off into kind of like a cool hip hop career.
[44:33]
OK, cool. Yeah. All right. Turn. But sure. I'm for it. Yeah, I feel like it's time for to really
[44:39]
take the voice that she has and add, you know, a little bit of extra spice.
[44:45]
Sounds good. OK, well, you heard it here first. Twenty twenty five. You know,
[44:48]
we know you've got a lot of bad stuff in store for us, but you know what? You could also give
[44:51]
us some good stuff. More Muppets kill half the characters and pretty much any franchise.
[44:56]
And also flow. Get hip hoppin, I guess. Yeah, that's the term.
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Thanks for joining me on this little journey through what people should be doing this year.
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I am, of course, Elliot Kalin, joined by Dan McCoy and Stuart Wellington.
[45:10]
I'd like to tell you real quick that we are a podcast on a maximum fun network. Please check
[45:14]
out the other maximum fun podcast. There's a lot of great ones on there, and I think you'll like
[45:18]
them. If you like this one, you'll probably like them. If you didn't like this one, try another
[45:22]
episode. This one's out of the ordinary. I'd like to thank our producer Alex Smith. You can find him
[45:27]
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[45:32]
a positive review, I hope on one of your podcast apps, that would be wonderful.
[45:37]
Or maybe just tell somebody about the flop house if you liked it. Help us spread the word,
[45:41]
you know, it's been great. And as I said before, if you can find it in your budget to help out
[45:47]
those who've been affected by the fires in my hometown of Los Angeles, I would greatly appreciate
[45:51]
it. There's a lot of people in need, and you can help change things and make things better for them.
[45:56]
Even if it's just a little bit of money at a time, every little bit helps. For the flop house again,
[46:00]
I have been Elliot Kalin, and my resolution is to give more credit and more talking time
[46:05]
to my co-hosts Dan McCoy, Stuart Wellington. All right, that's enough talking time. Bye. Bye.
[46:13]
Bye.
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