main Episode #79 Sep 27, 2009 00:46:15

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[0:00] In this episode, we discuss Obsessed, the movie that tries to destroy Obama's post-racial America.
[0:30] Hey everyone, welcome to the Flophouse
[0:35] I'm Dan McCoy
[0:36] And I'm Stuart Wellington
[0:38] I'm Elliot Kalin, don't you know
[0:40] So guys, I don't know about you guys
[0:41] But I had a really exciting weekend last weekend
[0:44] Oh, what happened?
[0:45] I went upstate to a sculpture garden
[0:49] Oh, that sounds cool
[0:49] And I bought some new shoes in an outlet mall
[0:52] Oh, nice, do you got a good deal on those?
[0:53] Yeah, just really exciting
[0:55] Stuart, I bet you did something exciting
[0:57] I had a lot of sex
[0:58] that's always great yeah yeah it was really good i was like i was like spent like totally
[1:03] wow like yeah it was like i had to stop and drink some gatorade in the middle that's memorable yeah
[1:09] but ellie don't worry about it i think the thing is going to work out for you at some point yeah
[1:13] i didn't have such a great weekend just just out of curiosity what uh what did you do last weekend
[1:18] uh not a lot danielle and i were out of town just kind of visiting friends uh i won the 2009
[1:26] an Emmy for Best Writing for a
[1:28] Comedy, Musical, or Variety Program.
[1:29] And then I finished
[1:32] Alan Moore's Voice of the Fire.
[1:33] I think we're going to take you back. That was pretty good.
[1:36] To before the Alan Moore thing.
[1:38] Just like step back a little bit. Oh, you've read
[1:40] Voice of the Fire already? No, no. We'll talk
[1:42] about that later, but the thing before that.
[1:44] What were you saying? Well, we were out of
[1:46] town. We were visiting some friends.
[1:47] Later than that. People we knew from college.
[1:50] Danielle's sister and her boyfriend.
[1:52] Who's Danielle again?
[1:54] My fiance. Oh, okay.
[1:56] That makes a lot more sense, because I thought you were just mispronouncing Dan's name.
[1:59] No, no.
[2:00] Dan had quite a weekend.
[2:02] Yeah.
[2:03] He got the shoes.
[2:04] But no, I think there was something in between.
[2:07] That's pretty good.
[2:08] Yeah.
[2:09] That you did.
[2:10] I don't think.
[2:11] We were out of town, visited some friends, won an Emmy, finished the Alan Moore book.
[2:17] Now, that's where I'm going to stop you.
[2:18] Came back into town.
[2:19] Because I think, it seems to me that winning an Emmy.
[2:22] Wait, what's an Emmy?
[2:24] Wait.
[2:25] be considered an emmy it's not an emmy no an emmy it's it's an award it's the highest award in
[2:30] television it doesn't really mean anything uh higher than a daytime emmy uh well they're the
[2:35] same award for different different levels of programming again same award for different
[2:39] types of programming okay uh mine mine happened to be a prime time emmy which means like you know
[2:45] we went on dewey hauser was the host and we went on stage and i was on television and there's a
[2:49] picture of me and hollywood reporter with my boss and you know talk to the press a little bit you
[2:53] These things happen.
[2:54] It's work, you know.
[2:55] Another day, another dollar.
[2:57] I guess I'm just going to throw out those shoes then.
[2:59] Yeah, shoes that I bought.
[3:02] No, those are good shoes.
[3:03] I want to hear about this story.
[3:04] No.
[3:04] So what kind of, you said they were patent leather.
[3:07] What color are they, those shoes?
[3:09] So Elliot, I noticed that you're wearing your Emmy around your neck.
[3:13] Yeah, it's a little heavy.
[3:15] In Flava Flav style.
[3:16] Yeah.
[3:17] Is that the world she's holding up?
[3:20] Well, I think it represents an atom with electrons going around because television is the harnessing of the electron to see images.
[3:27] It was designed in the late 40s, so it has this kind of Art Deco styling.
[3:32] So she's not like a weird Atlas figure?
[3:34] No, no, and she's kind of like an angel with lightning bolt wings giving – and those are sharp, watch out – holding the atom out and the electron.
[3:42] It's a beautiful piece of work.
[3:44] Anyway, so these shoes, that sounds amazing.
[3:49] I'll probably wear them to your wedding.
[3:51] Yeah, next year.
[3:52] I mean, it's been kind of a humdrum summer for me.
[3:56] I got engaged.
[3:57] Then a couple months later, I won an Emmy.
[3:59] Stuart, you said you were doing it a lot.
[4:00] Yeah, I had a lot of sex.
[4:02] I shot an assault rifle.
[4:03] Got a tattoo.
[4:04] Pretty good, pretty good.
[4:06] Yeah.
[4:06] These shoes are just going lower and lower.
[4:08] No, I mean, are they the ones you're wearing now?
[4:11] Those look nice.
[4:11] Yeah, I'm just going to throw these out.
[4:13] But anyway, we watched a movie tonight, guys.
[4:17] Oh, yeah, right?
[4:19] Oh, my God, I forgot.
[4:20] It's not all Emmys and fucking.
[4:22] No, it isn't.
[4:24] Sometimes it's business.
[4:24] Yeah, yeah.
[4:25] And tonight the business was we watched Obsessed,
[4:28] or as I assume it was called in the script stage,
[4:32] White Girl Gonna Steal Your Man.
[4:34] This would have been, if it was that kind of movie
[4:37] with that kind of title, it would be a far better movie.
[4:39] I think it was titled Untitled Idris Elba Project.
[4:43] It seems like that's all there is to it, though.
[4:46] because because the movie is so boilerplate thriller fail attraction knockoff the only
[4:53] thing about it is like the race baiting yeah well that it's black a black man and a black woman
[4:59] who are married and a white woman tries to steal the black man okay so that's pretty much the whole
[5:05] plot right yes i've just told you the entire plot of the film and then and then she like there's a
[5:11] cat fight at the end and there's a fight and at the end the crazy white girl dies and yeah and
[5:15] She is no match physically for the wife.
[5:19] Beyonce.
[5:19] Who's played by recording superstar Beyonce Knowles.
[5:23] Famous singer, Beyonce.
[5:26] She's had a very quick arc in movies from Pink Panther to the Academy Award-nominated Dreamgirls to Obsessed.
[5:35] It takes some actors years to have an arc like that.
[5:39] Yeah, you mean an arc that keeps going up?
[5:41] It's not really an arc anymore, right?
[5:45] She's basically had the career of Peter O'Toole, the entire career, condensed into, I guess, two years, three years?
[5:51] I mean, I will expand upon the story of this just a little more, and I really mean just a little more,
[5:57] because it's basically what you would imagine.
[5:59] Idris Elba and Beyoncé have what appears to be the perfect...
[6:03] You may know Idris Elba better as Stringer Bell.
[6:05] From The Wire.
[6:06] Oh, yeah.
[6:06] Oh, I thought it was...
[6:08] And he couldn't look happier to be in this movie.
[6:09] I thought it was the character he played in the hit film Prom Night.
[6:14] Where he also played Stringer Bell, right?
[6:16] No, he wasn't even a detective in that.
[6:18] Wait, Stringer Bell's not a policeman on The Wire?
[6:21] Yeah, and Ziggy was in it.
[6:22] I think you misunderstood The Wire.
[6:23] I need to watch that again.
[6:25] No, but Idris Elba and Beyonce have the perfect life.
[6:29] Yep, they just bought a new house.
[6:30] He's got a high-powered job as an executive at a company that does something that is never quite explained.
[6:36] They share a small child.
[6:37] They share a small...
[6:39] Yeah, it sounds like they ordered a large popcorn.
[6:44] That's what they're doing with their child.
[6:46] There's a lot of child to go around.
[6:47] That's what child raising is, Elliot.
[6:49] Basically, they have the perfect life.
[6:52] Yeah, and then...
[6:53] Set to modern R&B tunes at times and other times pop standards.
[6:56] Yeah, until Ally Larder shows up as a temp.
[7:01] Uh-oh.
[7:01] She shows up like five minutes into the movie, though.
[7:04] Well, but there was so much of them running through their new house
[7:09] and having sex in the attic and...
[7:12] They had sex in this movie?
[7:14] it's implied they didn't really show it man but yeah ali larder shows up and she has the hots
[7:20] for idris whose name in this is what david gregory no that's that's the nbc news guy
[7:27] dexter stevens andre gregory andre uh andre previn derrick charles two first names don't
[7:34] trust that fucking dude no uh he plays derrick charles uh she is the temp and she is quite a
[7:40] temptation to him oh except that she isn't he's kind of vaguely attracted to her at first in a
[7:47] hypothetical way and that disappears yeah and that they like share a little instant message chat at
[7:52] one yeah it's more like they're friendly yeah and she missed it she being crazy mistakes that for
[7:56] love and she goes crazy and thinks they're having an affair but they're not and she goes to greater
[8:01] and greater heights to steal him away from beyonce his true lady love once she is rebuffed at one
[8:08] point she uh she a robust suicide star of transformers and uh then when she tries to
[8:14] commit suicide beyonce becomes aware of the non-affair that's been going on adriel is afraid
[8:19] of telling beyonce that this girl is coming on to him because she's insanely jealous and she's
[8:25] insanely jealous and because as his friend jerry o'connell who's a co-worker tells him
[8:29] she's gonna assume the worst so don't tell her you know just like a lady and so there's a big
[8:36] explosion no no that would have made it a much more exciting film wait an explosion there's
[8:42] explosion of emotions let's just let's just say let's say a controlled detonation of explode of
[8:47] emotions yeah the emotions gently tumble to the floor uh ali larder uh attempt suicide
[8:54] beyonce finds out finally uh she and by the way for the listener at home that rumbling you heard
[9:00] was not an earthquake that occurred during the podcast it was stewart pushing his chair back
[9:05] to go get a drink of water i just wanted to clarify that's how that's how horrible this
[9:10] movie was is that stewart is not drinking beer right now but instead of water in an attempt to
[9:14] sober himself up to never to remember never to do this again what do another podcast yeah i gotta
[9:21] steal up my courage because i'm gonna tell you guys later uh we have to have a talk okay but
[9:26] anyway they there's a and this is what a police detective played by well who's it christian
[9:31] She comes in to investigate the suicide and decides to investigate Idris Elba's supposed affair, even though no crime has been committed.
[9:40] Yeah, that's the thing. Apparently, when someone tries to commit suicide and they don't deny that they were trying to commit suicide, that detective will just then hang out and sort of poke into people's personal lives.
[9:54] Get to the bottom of it.
[9:55] Eventually, it becomes clear Allie Larder's crazy.
[9:58] I think she was there unofficially, to be honest.
[10:00] I think it was more just like...
[10:01] Just a hobby?
[10:02] Yeah, her hobby is checking in on suicides.
[10:05] Yeah, well, she moonlights.
[10:06] She's writing a book on the side.
[10:08] Yeah.
[10:09] Called How to Irritate People.
[10:11] Like a paperback urban romance?
[10:13] Yes.
[10:14] The whole movie ends with Allie Larder and Beyoncé
[10:17] having an enormous catfight through the house
[10:21] that ends with Allie Larder falling to her death
[10:24] and being crushed by a chandelier.
[10:25] The end.
[10:27] The end.
[10:27] Everyone's happy.
[10:28] And it ends literally moments after that happens.
[10:32] Freeze frame cut to Beyoncé's song.
[10:34] Freeze frame on Beyoncé's face and half of Idris Elba's face.
[10:38] As they hug moments after she stumbles out of the house with her own blood on her face.
[10:43] And it's a wrap.
[10:44] Great work, people.
[10:46] Wrap party.
[10:46] We did it.
[10:48] And this is a terribly boring film.
[10:51] There probably was some really sexy seduction scenes, right?
[10:55] Not really.
[10:56] Because most of the seduction scenes were just
[10:58] Allie Larder looking weird and Idris Elba shouting at her.
[11:01] Yes.
[11:02] Well, there was a seduction scene in the car.
[11:04] It was for people who had a skeleton and loud noises fetish.
[11:07] Mm-hmm.
[11:08] There was a seduction...
[11:09] Yeah, she appears...
[11:11] She gets into his car and is wearing a trench coat
[11:13] with lingerie under it.
[11:14] It's the kind of lingerie that, like...
[11:16] She aggressively pops her trench coat open.
[11:18] Like, not, like, sexily, like, reveals.
[11:20] She's just, like...
[11:20] It's like an explosion of her, like, throwing her arms out
[11:24] and thrusting her pelvis forward.
[11:26] Because – and she is not the curviest woman, and the lingerie they have her in is the most conservative lingerie I've ever – like, it's the kind of lingerie –
[11:35] It's TV trailer quality lingerie where they're like, we want to show some seduction in this trailer.
[11:40] Better put on the granny panties.
[11:42] It's the kind of lingerie where, like, if you were at the Silver Dollar Saloon at Disney World and there's a joke that involves a woman's dress being pulled off, this is the underwear she would be wearing underneath it.
[11:52] Something that's family friendly.
[11:54] You know, I don't even think that the panties matched the bra.
[11:56] That was the other thing.
[11:58] I'm not sure.
[11:58] They looked like they came from two different sets.
[12:01] Like, costume coordinator was like, hey, here, you know, I have this from this.
[12:05] I mean, the fact that the panties.
[12:06] I spent a lot of time looking at panties and brassieres.
[12:09] On women.
[12:10] Yeah, of course.
[12:12] I mean, what, like a homemade girl that I made out of trash bags and hair clippings?
[12:19] No, well, he's saying.
[12:20] No, of course, it was a real girl.
[12:22] shopping as opposed to just shopping for lingerie yeah just looking through catalogs yeah well i
[12:28] mean shopping is kind of a strong word for it i mainly just walk around and smell them in the
[12:33] department store but they didn't look like they were actually like a set they know it looks like
[12:40] she got them at the mix and match barrels and marshalls uh yeah she went down to ann taylor
[12:47] and she just was like oh this this these panties are on sale and this bra is on sale i'll go seduce
[12:51] Cedrus Elba.
[12:52] Maybe waiting in line at Century 21 to get a hot deal.
[12:57] Yeah, yeah.
[12:57] And later she wears the weirdest clothes.
[13:00] She wears a dress that, like, it's a tight red dress except for the back where it's got two really loose straps.
[13:06] So it looks like she's wearing, like, fireman's pants without a shirt on underneath.
[13:09] It's very weird.
[13:10] Well, like overalls?
[13:12] Like overalls.
[13:13] Or like hip waders?
[13:14] There's something attractive about a woman wearing overalls with nothing underneath.
[13:17] There was nothing attractive about this dress.
[13:19] Okay.
[13:20] It's that hillbilly charm.
[13:21] Yeah, exactly.
[13:22] I get the feeling that you're not attracted to Allie Larder.
[13:26] She is very bony.
[13:28] Sure.
[13:29] And also made of bones.
[13:31] Yeah, you know, I feel like I find her the most attractive of the three of us.
[13:36] But even I feel like she's miscast in the role of a seductress because she just looks strained and pointy.
[13:44] I think you said she should be playing the assistant to, like a senator's assistant.
[13:48] Yeah.
[13:49] Like in a role where she was required to be sort of uptight, she could be sexy because you'd be like, oh, she's going to let her hair down.
[13:55] Yeah, exactly.
[13:56] But here her hair is down from the beginning.
[13:57] Or like an ice witch who has to battle the Care Bears.
[14:00] Yes.
[14:01] That's another good role.
[14:03] See, she'd be sexy in that role.
[14:05] But it's also like his – Beyoncé is a very curvy, sexy woman.
[14:11] She's bootylicious.
[14:11] They had to invent a stupid word to describe how attractive she was.
[14:17] And Idris Elba obviously has a type, if he's married to Beyonce, that Allie Larder doesn't.
[14:22] And there's literally, like, Allie Larder literally has no chance.
[14:26] No, yeah.
[14:27] There's no moment in this movie where Idris Elba's character's like, well, you know, maybe.
[14:32] He's dead set against it the entire time.
[14:34] Yeah, I mean, the closest he gets to it is he allows her to get him drunk at the Christmas party,
[14:41] which leads to them sort of dancing a little sexy together.
[14:45] And that's the furthest.
[14:46] Provocatively.
[14:47] he is willing and then he pulls back completely yeah and then she assaults him in a men's room
[14:53] stall which was really hot right guys again because i there's nothing she raped at one point
[14:59] yeah there's nothing about that the thing about there's a lot there are a bunch of movies where
[15:02] people have sex in bathrooms i know this happens in real life too sure but it always seems strange
[15:07] to me because it's like you know where i want to do it the place where people pee and defecate
[15:11] well i mean that's great usually when i'm having sex in a bathroom i like that's what i'm thinking
[15:15] about oh okay a public restroom like the floors are the floors are ones that i'd want to stand on
[15:21] while having sex i thought you were gonna say that's when usually when you're going to the
[15:24] bathroom you're thinking about people having sex in that stall well yeah or there's somebody having
[15:28] sex in the stall next to me and i'm like keep it down over there i'm trying to take a poop
[15:32] oops there's another one you crazy kids i thought that you'd be putting a cup up up to the wall
[15:38] to hear better it just all but goes it helps me poop it helps me focus i'm getting a little
[15:44] poops at intrasalva this is the classiest podcast ever intrasalva and his and his co-workers go on
[15:49] what he calls a retreat but then it's clearly a sales conference yeah it's not a retreat they're
[15:54] hanging out and oh no ali's there and she puts a roofie or something in his drink yeah and then
[16:00] is sneaks into his room while he's knocked well not even knocked out but just kind of like woozy
[16:04] and sure it's implied rapes him but on screen she just kind of runs her hands over his hands
[16:10] and says very lightly and keeps saying like does that feel nice lotion how does that feel
[16:15] is this good and then like a masseuse yeah but like a very light masseuse oh yeah but it's like
[16:20] she doesn't like even she is not that interested it's like that scene in 40 days and 40 nights
[16:24] where josh hartnett makes shan sasmon reach climax by blowing flowers across her body
[16:30] it's that sexy right yeah yeah exactly and sometime we're gonna force you to watch that
[16:36] movie and talk about it which is also a movie that features a dude getting raped by a chick
[16:40] that is completely not addressed well let's talk about that because even as it was going on i said
[16:46] idris elba gets raped it's implied but then doesn't remember it in the morning because of
[16:52] the roofies doesn't even like seem like he thinks he doesn't even happen yeah so he's not traumatized
[16:57] or doesn't feel guilty about yeah and so it doesn't serve that purpose in the plot and then
[17:03] later on when um beyonce thinks that he's sleeping with ally larder there's no scene where the
[17:09] doctors are after the suicide are like uh we did find that she just had sex with this guy we swabbed
[17:15] her out yeah it's yours for some reason so like there wasn't there's no reason yeah it's just
[17:20] something that's uh brought up to make you feel terrible and then drop and it's strange because
[17:25] otherwise this movie is so intricately put together every little piece has something to do
[17:29] like when she attacks him in the in the bathroom stall at the christmas party and he wants none of
[17:34] it he leaves and the song they're playing as he leaves wild thing she was a wild thing wasn't she
[17:40] there are a couple others like that just some things that are very on the nose
[17:44] but you know you're joking about how like it's intricately put together but the thing is like
[17:49] yeah your the movie is so obvious yes that you wouldn't imagine that someone would just be thrown
[17:54] in for no reason, especially something that distasteful would be brought up and then dropped
[18:01] in a movie where, like...
[18:02] I mean, she doesn't even use it for, like, leverage or anything.
[18:04] Like, it's crazy.
[18:05] Well, she just does it for pleasure, and then who knows?
[18:07] Yeah, I mean, I think they were even considering not putting it in the movie, and they're like,
[18:11] oh, but this is so sexy.
[18:12] We need this.
[18:13] For all the guys out there who dream of getting roofied by Allie Larder.
[18:16] And then lightly touched.
[18:17] Yeah.
[18:18] Lightly caressed by Allie Larder.
[18:20] Basically, it's their version of the sex scene from Don't Look Now.
[18:24] Yeah, exactly.
[18:25] Wait, is that the scene with the killer dwarf in it?
[18:29] No, that's not the scene with the killer dwarf.
[18:31] Spoiler alert.
[18:31] Jeez, Stuart.
[18:32] Dude, if that makes one person not see that movie, I've fucking done my job.
[18:37] I don't know.
[18:39] They'll miss out on Donald Sutherland just walking around naked very casually.
[18:43] Very handsome man.
[18:44] Very mustachioed, very 70s hair.
[18:46] There's a lot of Donald Sutherland naked back then.
[18:48] Are you talking about his body hair?
[18:49] Yeah, well, he was the Harvey Keitel of his day.
[18:53] The butt shot.
[18:54] But that's for a joke.
[18:56] Or the Kevin Bacon joke, I have to say.
[19:00] He was the Kevin Bacon of his day.
[19:02] This movie, like, I don't think I've sighed so much while watching a movie.
[19:06] Yeah, it's a very boring-looking, boring, dull, obvious movie.
[19:11] But it's straightforward.
[19:12] Yeah.
[19:13] Yeah, it is very.
[19:14] But we did not miss anything while watching it.
[19:16] I have to clue you in, listeners.
[19:18] I admit that we talk throughout the movie, make jokes.
[19:23] Wisecracks.
[19:23] Joke-em-ups.
[19:24] And I take a bunch of notes in my notebook.
[19:28] I put on my reading glasses.
[19:30] Stuart looks very closely.
[19:31] He does a scene-by-scene breakdown of the film, a beat sheet.
[19:34] This is not a movie where we miss something.
[19:36] This is a movie that lays it all out on the table and then underlines it three times.
[19:40] This is a movie you can watch while asleep, and you still have got everything.
[19:44] Yeah.
[19:45] I think that's the ideal way to watch it, because it's so boring that it will put you into a deep REM sleep.
[19:50] A satisfying...
[19:52] REM?
[19:53] R.E.M.?
[19:53] Oh, yeah, yeah.
[19:54] You know, like Rem Koolhaas.
[19:55] Yeah, okay.
[19:55] Man, Beyonce is a total non-presence in this film.
[19:59] She spends most of the movie not in the movie.
[20:02] Until it's asking in time.
[20:04] Yeah, until it's time for her to, you know, fuck shit up.
[20:06] Defend her man.
[20:07] And fight a lot.
[20:09] But she's so passive before.
[20:10] I guess she doesn't know what's going on, but she doesn't...
[20:13] She's a stay-at-home mom who is also studying for something job-related, maybe, school thing.
[20:18] To be a taekwondo instructor, I think.
[20:21] She's basically sitting at home and apparently calling her husband every 15 minutes on the phone.
[20:26] Because I've never seen a couple talk to each other on the phone as much as these two do.
[20:30] Like, from the start of the movie, I have to say, the movie does not put me in Beyoncé's corner.
[20:35] Because one of the first things in the movie is she learns that Idris Elba has a female assistant.
[20:41] Just a female temp filling in for his assistant.
[20:43] Who is a ridiculously caricatured gay man, by the way.
[20:47] But she's like, oh, I can't read on no female assistants.
[20:51] Well, the back story is because she was his assistant.
[20:54] Even so, that is no, like, what kind of crazy, possessive woman is like, I'm sorry, you can't work with any women.
[21:00] You can't work with 51% of the world.
[21:04] Maybe there was, like, a really hot scene where, like, the first time they hooked up, he was like.
[21:09] I love assistants.
[21:10] Yeah, he's like, I always fuck my assistants.
[21:12] You know what, Dan?
[21:13] It just seems like there's no trust in this relationship from the start.
[21:16] Yeah, but tell me this.
[21:16] If they had followed that rule, would anything bad have happened?
[21:20] No.
[21:20] Yes, you're right.
[21:21] And they didn't follow that rule, and what happened?
[21:23] Their house got wrecked.
[21:24] White girl tried to steal her man.
[21:25] And the white girl tried to steal her man.
[21:27] And somebody died, right?
[21:29] Well, Allie Larder died.
[21:30] I know Allie Larder died, yeah, falling out of an attic.
[21:33] I mean, probably.
[21:33] I guess.
[21:35] She might be alive.
[21:36] I guess it wasn't explicitly.
[21:38] I mean, as you pointed out, that chandelier didn't look that heavy.
[21:41] Yeah.
[21:41] And it missed her.
[21:42] I mean, we'll wait until Obsessed 2 before we make a final decision.
[21:47] Still Obsessed.
[21:49] Obsessed 2, The Scent of Obsession.
[21:51] Obsessed-er.
[21:52] Obsessed again.
[21:54] It's a comedy.
[21:55] Obsessed with him?
[21:56] But you were supposed to be obsessed with me!
[21:58] So, who, Erica Christensen would be the Allie Larder character?
[22:02] Yeah, swim fan.
[22:02] Yeah, she'd be in the sequel.
[22:04] She's a real swim fan, yeah.
[22:06] That's a word that they didn't make up for the movie.
[22:09] Oh, God, I don't even know how much there is to say about this movie.
[22:13] Well, and Beyonce, there's a funny thing with the end of the fight scene.
[22:18] Beyonce's wearing these very high-heeled boots, and they're in an unfinished attic.
[22:22] And it's just kind of funny the lengths the movie goes to for suspense in showing her having trouble standing on the boards laid down in the attic with her boots on.
[22:30] Yeah, there are basically three planks that you can walk on, and the rest of it is just insulation.
[22:34] And so Allie Larder's swinging a two-by-four at her, and Beyonce's backing up, backing up, getting closer, just going on this insulation in these four-inch heel boots, backing up.
[22:45] And then she gets the edge, and she springs backwards, and like a cat, both of her boots land on the planks on the side.
[22:52] And then later, she's, Allie Larder is dangling from the attic by her hands, and Beyoncé grabs her hand to save her life, because she's still a good person.
[23:00] Not a murderer.
[23:02] Yeah, and Allie Larder starts trying to pull her down with her, and you see shots of her boots, like, sliding across the attic floor, as if she's being pulled forward.
[23:13] But each time you see Beyonce, she's at the exact same point in the hole that she was before.
[23:17] So it's almost less like she's being pulled through than that her legs are getting shorter the entire fight.
[23:23] Or almost like it's a cartoon joke where Beyonce's arms are stretching so her legs are pulling in.
[23:29] It would have been a great Stephen Chow joke to throw in suddenly.
[23:33] Yeah, and for a movie that I guess is supposed to be an erotic thriller.
[23:39] It's a very un-erotic thriller.
[23:41] The most skin is shown during the cat fight.
[23:44] Oh, yeah.
[23:45] Because Allie Larder is in an oversized jersey that Idris Elba wears but no pants on.
[23:51] Chess has her panties checked.
[23:52] And Beyonce has a lot of – it shows a lot of cleavage.
[23:54] Yeah, she's very cleavage-y.
[23:56] And high-heeled boots checked.
[23:57] But like you could show this entire movie on television uncut, on network television at 7 p.m.
[24:02] Preempt Jeopardy, throw this on.
[24:04] Anger everyone who wanted to see Jeopardy.
[24:07] Yeah, when they cancel the Jay Leno show, they throw this on at 10, and they realize, you know, we could run this at 8.
[24:13] Cancel the Jay Leno show, huh?
[24:15] Like, two and a half minutes.
[24:15] You're already taking shots.
[24:16] I don't want them to cancel his show.
[24:20] Two and a half men, huh?
[24:21] I don't think it's going to lose another 12 million viewers in one week.
[24:24] Two and a half men.
[24:26] For Emmy Award winner John Cryer, who won an Emmy this year.
[24:30] You're just as good as John Cryer, Elliot.
[24:32] Yeah, I am as good as John Cryer and better than Bob Newhart, who never won anything.
[24:37] That's the way it works.
[24:38] And not as good as Susan Lucci, who I think has two.
[24:42] The same way that Alfred Hitchcock is a worse director than Kevin Costner.
[24:48] I'm really struggling with this movie because it is so straightforward.
[24:53] Yeah, it's really straightforward.
[24:54] There's not much to say about it.
[24:55] Jerry O'Connell's in it for some reason.
[24:57] Jerry O'Connell doing his best Michael Ian Black impression is in the movie.
[25:00] And that was the saddest thing about the movie.
[25:03] It was a sign of how far Jerry O'Connell's career has gone down.
[25:07] that he's the friend of the main character in this movie
[25:11] as opposed to being the lead in a movie like Tomcats,
[25:15] like you mentioned, Stuart.
[25:16] That's a drop.
[25:17] I think after a day of filming, Jerry O'Connell would be like,
[25:23] hey, Idris, you want to go get a beer or something?
[25:25] And he's like, I got a lot of stuff to do, man.
[25:29] I'm going to prepare for tomorrow.
[25:31] He's like, oh, okay.
[25:34] We could watch the first season DVD of Carpoolers.
[25:37] It just came out.
[25:38] I was in that show, Carpoolers.
[25:39] Watch Joe's Apartment.
[25:40] I got the short and the full-length feature.
[25:42] Sliders, seasons one through whatever.
[25:46] I think one through question.
[25:49] I think I had some VHS tapes from when I was guest hosting later.
[25:53] I think even fans of Sliders look at Sliders that way.
[25:56] Yeah, you know, seasons one through whatever.
[25:58] I don't know how many seasons it ran.
[26:01] They were getting sillier and sillier in ways of changing the world in the different episodes.
[26:06] This movie had a really, really catty gay man in it.
[26:11] Bruce McGill was in it.
[26:13] Yeah, Bruce D-Day.
[26:14] Yep, had a very small role.
[26:16] Now we're just listing things that are true about this movie.
[26:19] Well, there's not much to say about the movie.
[26:21] Allie Larder has left her job.
[26:23] And so Idris Elba goes, phew, I'm safe again.
[26:26] He and Beyonce go out to dinner.
[26:28] And cartoon sweat flies off his head.
[26:31] It's New Year's.
[26:32] New Year's Eve, they come home after midnight.
[26:35] His Outlook on his computer, which he's left turned on all night apparently and open,
[26:40] says he has one message.
[26:42] He checks it, and oh no, it's a New Year's card from Allie Larder
[26:45] that's a photo of her that opens multiple pop-up photos of her.
[26:48] Yeah, the same photo opens up in 20 different pop-up photos.
[26:52] It says, see you next year.
[26:53] And there's this great moment of like poorly thought out suspense
[26:56] where Beyonce is taking off her earrings in the background
[27:00] while Idris Elba is desperately trying to click close
[27:02] to all of the windows at the same time.
[27:05] And they keep cutting between the things.
[27:07] It's like, oh my God, he's running out of time
[27:09] before her earrings are off
[27:10] and he's still got three windows to close.
[27:12] Well, you guys are probably a lot like me.
[27:14] You're probably going out with your lady
[27:17] and then you're in your bedroom, your boudoir,
[27:20] and you're looking at some internet pornography.
[27:22] Holy shit, a whole bunch of pop-ups pop up.
[27:25] And then when she's coming back out of the bathroom after having taken a shit or something, you're trying to furiously click on all those Xs to close those pop-ups so she doesn't see that you're looking at porn.
[27:33] You came home and she said, I'll be right about.
[27:35] I need to use the bathroom.
[27:36] And your first thought is, I'm going to have plenty of time to look at pornography.
[27:39] In bed.
[27:39] In bed.
[27:41] While you're in the bathroom.
[27:42] Yeah.
[27:42] This is an odd scenario.
[27:44] Okay.
[27:44] So, yeah.
[27:45] So, that's the thing.
[27:46] It's like the director's really playing on his audience's knowledge of irritating pop-ups.
[27:53] He's primarily male audience for this film.
[27:57] The ones who came out to see Beyonce Knowles into an ogle Idris Elba.
[28:02] There's a lot more Idris Elba skin than lady skin.
[28:06] He has to take his shirt off a bunch of times.
[28:08] It almost makes me think that we weren't the audience for this movie.
[28:11] I don't understand.
[28:12] That's strange, Elliot.
[28:13] We're young professional males between the ages of 25 and 35.
[28:18] Seems like we would be the market for everything.
[28:20] I'm closer to the 25 end of that scale.
[28:23] Yeah.
[28:23] Me too.
[28:25] Okay, so this movie was great.
[28:28] Now let's do some, do we want to?
[28:30] Final judgments.
[28:30] Yeah, final judgments.
[28:31] Let's do the final judgments.
[28:32] Yeah, then we can talk about something else.
[28:34] So to refresh, is this a good bad movie, a bad bad movie,
[28:38] or a movie that you actually kind of liked in some way?
[28:40] Elliot, go.
[28:41] I would call this a bad bad movie.
[28:43] It was very boring, and until the fight scene at the end,
[28:46] they were like, there were little things here and there you could make fun of,
[28:48] but it was never a good bad movie, and it is certainly not a good movie.
[28:52] I'll have to agree with Elliot, this is a bad, bad movie.
[28:55] Although there was one moment in the movie where they were talking about hamburgers,
[28:59] so I started thinking about how I'd like to eat a hamburger right now.
[29:03] Yeah, that was the high point of the film is when they briefly discuss
[29:06] whether the hamburger they're eating is good, and the answer is yes, it's very good.
[29:09] It made me think of good hamburgers I've eaten, so, I mean, that part was cool.
[29:13] Yeah, if you want to think about good hamburgers, maybe watch that scene in the movie,
[29:17] or just think about good hamburgers.
[29:18] At that point, they're almost...
[29:19] You do have the movie.
[29:20] It's almost like they're trying to set her up as the ideal dream woman.
[29:23] Like, oh, she knows the kind of music he likes, and she's really sexy.
[29:27] Oh, and she eats hamburgers, too?
[29:29] What could go wrong?
[29:31] Yep.
[29:31] It's why I'm attracted to Wimpy.
[29:33] Well, you also think it's smooth the way he never pays for his hamburgers.
[29:37] Yes.
[29:38] I think that also...
[29:40] Are you going to rock the boat?
[29:41] No, I'm going to agree.
[29:42] This is a bad, bad movie.
[29:45] I think that the ending cat fight is funny, but I would advise you to go on YouTube, look it up, see if some kind soul has cut that part out, and you can just watch it on its own.
[29:57] And if they have, that person should get the Nobel Prize for peace, for saving people's time.
[30:02] And the rest of it can be thrown in the garbage.
[30:05] Sure.
[30:06] The celluloid garbage can.
[30:09] Just take the original reels, clip that part out, and throw the rest away.
[30:14] That was a sequel to The Celluloid Closet
[30:16] It was The Celluloid Garbage Can
[30:18] What about Oscar the Grouches?
[30:19] That were secretly hidden into movies?
[30:22] Yep
[30:22] Or I guess Oscar's the Grouch
[30:25] Would be the pluralizing of that
[30:27] Yeah, it's like Attorney's Gym
[30:28] Yeah
[30:28] So I have a couple of things here
[30:33] From the
[30:34] Are those letters?
[30:35] It's part of the Flophouse mailbag
[30:37] Letters?
[30:37] We get letters?
[30:38] We get lots and lots of letters?
[30:41] Is this a movie mailbag?
[30:42] Letters
[30:43] First off here, someone submitted something for the contest.
[30:47] The contest.
[30:48] We're running a contest?
[30:49] I had forgotten about it.
[30:51] We mentioned once and then never mentioned again.
[30:54] What was the prize?
[30:54] Was it watch a flop with the flophouses?
[30:57] Yeah, that sounds cool.
[30:58] Flop with the floppers contest.
[30:59] So it's still running, guys.
[31:00] Thank you for reminding us that this contest exists.
[31:03] What were the rules again?
[31:04] Do something?
[31:04] Do something to promote the show.
[31:06] Oh, yeah.
[31:07] And then send us some proof that you've done something to promote the show.
[31:10] And then we will evaluate who did the best thing to promote the show.
[31:13] And then they will get a you-expensives-paid trip to watch a movie with us.
[31:19] To beautiful Brooklyn.
[31:20] We'll probably contribute food and drink.
[31:23] Yeah, Popeye's on me.
[31:25] That's it.
[31:26] I'll provide beer, as long as you don't mind drinking Highline for Bruce Lee.
[31:30] You provide a sense of fun.
[31:31] You can sit in while we record.
[31:33] But anyway, this gentleman, his name is Dash.
[31:38] Oh, he's one of the Incredibles.
[31:40] He hosts his own podcast, and he's put up a video where he teaches people how to make falafel with tahini.
[31:49] So if you've been wanting to learn how to make Middle Eastern street food, but we're waiting for a horrible pun.
[31:58] Wow, this is someone who put an effort into a contest.
[32:02] I'm saying they went to the trouble of doing the video, and I'll post it on the site.
[32:07] If you need your recipes, let's say, to have something to do with a podcast,
[32:12] then your prayers have been answered.
[32:15] Sure.
[32:15] To whatever God you're praying to.
[32:18] Thank you, Dash.
[32:19] I enjoyed the video.
[32:20] It's probably Yabu on the three who are one.
[32:23] That makes sense.
[32:25] I think that we'll keep this contest open through the end of October,
[32:29] and then we'll make our choice.
[32:30] Shocktober.
[32:31] Yeah, that's true.
[32:32] Stocktober.
[32:33] Next month will be Shocktober.
[32:36] So look forward to that, guys.
[32:37] On Channel 11, WPIX New York's movie station.
[32:41] So if you wanted to see Nightmare on Elm Street 3 again.
[32:45] Dream Warriors?
[32:46] But with the good scenes cut out.
[32:48] Okay, all the homoerotic ones, you mean.
[32:50] No, that's two.
[32:51] That's two.
[32:51] I mean, I don't know which one's the gay one.
[32:54] Exactly.
[32:54] So this one is from William, last name withheld.
[32:58] This one family is always writing us.
[33:00] Yeah.
[33:00] He enjoys the show, started listening to work earlier this year,
[33:03] reminds him of the bad movie nights
[33:05] his wife Michelle, and he used to have
[33:07] with his friend Pete.
[33:08] He said Michelle as if you knew her and missed her.
[33:11] Of course, Michelle.
[33:13] So you and William did stay together.
[33:15] Dan's wiping away a tear.
[33:17] He could have had something beautiful.
[33:18] Kissing a folded, faded photograph that he keeps in his wallet.
[33:21] A daguerreotype.
[33:23] It's a daguerreotype, yeah.
[33:25] He has a tintype print in his wallet.
[33:27] It's a stereo
[33:29] picture. What do you call those?
[33:31] Stereopticon.
[33:32] Well, stereopticon is what you look at him with.
[33:34] Stereoscopic picture.
[33:35] Let's keep going.
[33:35] He's putting it in the holder so that he can see it in three dimensions, then crying.
[33:39] He basically enjoyed his own bad movie night, and he wanted to recommend a few older bad
[33:46] movies, sure, for people to watch.
[33:48] Orgy of the Dead.
[33:49] Ed Wood movie, right?
[33:51] Yeah, Ed Wood movie.
[33:53] Michelle and her sister Tracy memorably shouted, ow, ow, ow, when a topless woman vigorously
[33:59] shook her breasts from side to side during the orgy of the dead.
[34:02] so you might want to try that at home too andy warhol's dracula he liked that's that's terrible
[34:07] maniac the extras include an endless display of maniac trailers all nearly exactly the same
[34:13] yeah and when time ran out pete was fascinated with 70s disaster pictures particularly the works
[34:20] of erwin allen i couldn't stop laughing at the bridge scene it runs on forever even on fast
[34:24] forward i haven't seen that one i'm familiar with erwin allen's work but i haven't seen that one
[34:27] Yeah, those are some good older movie recommendations.
[34:30] We don't usually talk about older movies because they've often been picked over by the time we would get to them anyway.
[34:37] And we want to have a thin veneer of currency to the podcast.
[34:42] But this opens up a good topic, which is, are there any older bad movies that you would recommend as a good bad movie to watch?
[34:50] Yeah, I totally want to watch, because I was, you know, the Netflix, right?
[34:56] You guys have heard of this, right?
[34:58] It's on the internet.
[34:58] So I was browsing my flicks, and I noted that one of my favorite movies has just recently been added to their catalog.
[35:11] A little movie called If Looks Could Kill, starring Richard Parike.
[35:15] Oh, of course.
[35:15] How could we forget?
[35:16] But that's a tongue-in-cheek movie.
[35:19] I mean, it is a comedy.
[35:20] But it is bad.
[35:21] Yeah, it's not good.
[35:22] It's not a good movie.
[35:23] All right.
[35:23] Okay.
[35:24] I'll take that.
[35:26] I mean, he mispronounces bonjour and says boner.
[35:30] I mean, come on.
[35:31] All right, I changed my mind.
[35:33] That's a good movie.
[35:34] That should have won Best Picture.
[35:36] I think it did at the kid Oscars.
[35:39] The Coskers.
[35:40] This is still sort of recent,
[35:42] but I showed at a bad movie night before The Flophouse existed, Paparazzi.
[35:46] I think that's an excellent choice for a still fairly recent older bad movie.
[35:52] I mean, it's the sort of bad movie that only a celebrity would want to make,
[35:57] a movie about killer paparazzi terrorizing a poor celebrity.
[36:01] And it exists in this weird world where, like, paparazzi all work together
[36:07] to bedevil celebrities rather than, you know,
[36:09] just being individual people out to sell photos.
[36:13] But the paparazzos don't actually kill anybody in that movie.
[36:16] They just injure somebody, and then they all get killed.
[36:19] Yeah, I guess that is what's right.
[36:20] They all get killed by Bo Laramie, Dan.
[36:22] But Tom Sizemore does say that he wants to ruin the guy's life.
[36:26] Yeah.
[36:27] He wants to make it his mission to ruin his life.
[36:28] Bo Learmy.
[36:29] Played by popular actor Cole Houser.
[36:31] Yeah.
[36:32] You don't know which name sounds more fake, his real name or the character's name.
[36:36] That's the kind of world that paparazzi creates for you, the viewer, right?
[36:41] Yeah.
[36:41] I believe it was directed, or was it written, or was it written and directed?
[36:45] I don't know.
[36:45] One of those by Mel Gibson's hairdresser.
[36:49] So, there you go.
[36:50] Do you have anything that you wanted to say?
[36:52] He's doing good work.
[36:53] Mel Gibson was in my office today, actually.
[36:55] Really?
[36:55] They were shooting a scene for a movie Mel Gibson is making
[36:58] in which he is a man who speaks through a beaver puppet.
[37:02] And I think Jodie Foster is directing it.
[37:05] And they were shooting a scene where he's being interviewed by John.
[37:07] Wow.
[37:08] It was quite strange.
[37:09] You know, Daily Show doesn't usually do that sort of thing, right?
[37:12] We've been doing it more and more.
[37:13] We did one for Evan Almighty, and we did one for the great Buck Howard.
[37:17] We did one recently for something Matt Damon's in.
[37:20] John is becoming Jay Leno, I guess.
[37:21] There was a time when you could not see a movie
[37:24] that didn't have a scene where Jay Leno does a joke
[37:27] about what's going on in the movie.
[37:28] No, not Good Will Hunting.
[37:29] Two.
[37:30] Not Good Will Hunting, too, either.
[37:31] Better Will Hunting.
[37:32] Followed by Best Will Hunting.
[37:35] The one called Good Will Bunting,
[37:36] where it turns out he's also a baseball prodigy.
[37:38] Either that or like a weird banner.
[37:41] Yeah.
[37:42] Good Will swaddling about the nativity.
[37:45] Sure.
[37:46] I think I'll recommend, there's a two-movie cycle,
[37:50] Mandroid and Invisible, The Chronicles of Jack Knight, I think it's called.
[37:53] It might be Kyle Knight.
[37:54] They tell the story of a group of scientists on the run from a villain.
[37:59] In the first one, they have a robot body that can be controlled when you wear a special helmet,
[38:03] and an evil scientist wants it.
[38:05] And one of the characters turns invisible, which is a lead-in to the second movie, Invisible,
[38:10] where he actually isn't in it that much, as you'd think, since the movie is called Invisible.
[38:14] But it is a very funny, bad, two-part movie.
[38:17] And you know what? I'll also throw Nuki in. How about that?
[38:20] hey can i throw something else in there sure i want to recommend the invisible maniac
[38:24] about oh yeah about a high school teacher who turns himself invisible just to uh you know spy
[38:30] on and potentially rape women and uh at one point version of the hollow man and then at one point
[38:36] he chokes a student to death with a submarine sandwich pretty good it's a good movie all right
[38:43] he does that but does it have a talking monkey in it because nuki does uh the invisible maniac
[38:48] jumps on somebody's head and smushes it yeah the person's head smushes like it splatters
[38:56] wow apparently when you become invisible you also become ridiculously dense interesting
[39:02] and then oh and then when you become visible again uh if you die you become visible again
[39:08] in the mythos of the invisible maniac that doesn't make it oh well that's what happens
[39:11] in the regular the invisible man oh yeah you're right i would recommend uh slow bullet except
[39:17] it is unenjoyable that is the the necronomicon of bad movies you will go crazy if you watch it
[39:22] i could recommend more bad ones i'm starting to think of the movies they used to play on usa up
[39:25] all night now not barbarian not the bikini ones maybe oh those are like the great bikini off-road
[39:31] adventure that i don't that that was like i think too new a movie to show on up all night should we
[39:36] just stick to uh these bad movies and their recommendations for the week the great bikini
[39:40] off-road adventure applies there's an event an adventure in the film yeah it's a great movie
[39:44] Which there is, of course, none of.
[39:46] Yeah, but there's bikinis and there's topless chicks.
[39:50] That's right, and they do go off for quite a bit.
[39:51] There's some wise Native American dudes.
[39:54] That is the trope of there's one woman and she keeps losing her top,
[39:57] and then the wise Native American collects them and returns them.
[40:00] Yeah, Willie Talsall.
[40:01] That's the character's name.
[40:03] I forgot that was his name.
[40:05] Isn't there like a bikini traffic school?
[40:07] Yes, I think. I haven't seen it.
[40:09] I saw that one. I don't understand.
[40:11] That was one I didn't get because it seemed like a traffic school in the sense that it was related somehow to city government.
[40:18] It wasn't like a private organization, but it still had that plot where land developers wanted to take it over and they had to turn it into a bikini organization to save it.
[40:28] This is not a profit business doing a traffic school.
[40:32] You guys remember the great – it was like the stand-up comedy boom of the 80s, the bikini business boom when there were just bikini businesses springing up all over the country.
[40:39] Bikini car washes, bikini bistros, bikini hotels, bikini airlines.
[40:43] And there was also that boom in evil land developers.
[40:46] Around the same time.
[40:48] Yeah, who were always trying to, like, shut mom and pop organizations down.
[40:52] Or community centers.
[40:53] Yeah, for some reason, the economy at that point just favored bikinis and evil land developers.
[40:57] Oh, yeah, that's the thing.
[40:58] Yeah, I don't know what it is.
[40:59] Like, despite, you know, I'm, you know, an adult.
[41:03] But still, if, like, one of those bikini movies comes on, like, I'll look around and actually
[41:08] kind of feel like i'm doing something wrong like my parents might walk in and catch me and i've
[41:13] seen actual pornography like and you don't ever feel you don't care if your parents walk in and
[41:18] see you watching that no because i mean most of its pornography featuring like dead bodies and
[41:23] stuff so it's not like it's real pornography even as a grown adult uh i also prefer it's a crazy
[41:30] anything to say prefer like this silly um tna comedies to like other forms of like bad uh soft
[41:39] no well there's a there's a lightness to it because yeah well i mean as someone who grew up
[41:44] you know staying up secretly to watch whatever uh you know like pornography yeah whatever it
[41:51] wasn't charlie rose you're staying up to see someone who stayed up to see uh live at the
[41:56] apollo sometimes i did stay up to see charlotte rose but so many of the like softcore erotic
[42:01] thrillers are about a guy out there who's killing strippers yeah and that's not so and it's that's
[42:07] like unsexy on two levels number one like you know strippers it's fine like it's good i'm still
[42:14] seeing someone who's naked but it's like the least sexy version of of that because you're like okay
[42:19] well i'm watching a movie about someone whose job is to take their clothes off it's not like i'm
[42:25] seeing characters who i wouldn't normally see naked like it's like okay these are characters
[42:29] who this is their job to be naked and then they get killed like that doesn't add any i don't
[42:34] so you're saying you wouldn't be turned on by a movie about naked cave women
[42:37] right because that's kind of their job no it's not their job to be naked i mean they don't really
[42:43] have a job like they don't like put on like take a briefcase there's a difference between
[42:47] unhappily being paid to take your clothes off and not yet having knowledge of clothes
[42:53] about it i'm saying yeah i'm saying that like i'm saying if there was a movie about adam and eve
[43:00] okay adam and eve were naked not adam and steve and then adam well that would be the movie the
[43:04] loss of sexual innocence sexy on on multiple levels well it doesn't it's not even the true
[43:08] story yeah cain kills abel you make able a hot girl maybe a stripper done you got your movie
[43:14] okay and you call it a garden genesis killing garden of genesis garden of genesis garden of
[43:23] killing corn chips part part part one the rise of killing i like it okay enter the killing in
[43:29] that's how boring the movie was today that we had plenty of time to talk about
[43:33] old softcore pornography of the type mom used to make sure so yeah are we anything else we have to
[43:40] do oh i was gonna say i think that we should just make those bad movie recommendations our
[43:44] recommendations particularly because i haven't had time to watch yeah i had a movie i had a movie to
[43:49] recommend that i but i didn't love it it just kind of like was the best of the ones i had seen lately
[43:53] i saw a screening of the informant and i liked it a good deal but i feel like anyone needs my
[43:58] encouragement to go see a wide release film starring matt damon like yeah you've sold out
[44:02] jim if you wouldn't mind me promoting my next film screening coming up the first wednesday in
[44:07] october october 7th i'll be showing the old dark house at 92 wide tribeca in manhattan 200 hudson
[44:14] street come on by wednesday october 7th eight o'clock the old dark house i'm going to talk
[44:18] about it james whale's masterpiece the movie he made between frankenstein and friday frankenstein
[44:22] it's really funny and it's really creepy if you want to see emmy winning uh writer elliot
[44:26] kalin present a movie that's your chance guys this is your first of many chances it's weird
[44:31] you would think that this podcast would get better the worse the movie is that we watched
[44:34] there's a breaking point of energy so much i feel like our best podcasts have been movies that we
[44:39] kind of enjoyed you know like brats that's the thing every it's it's like i can't like i can't
[44:45] imagine that i know it happened that we watched and we were like ah that was even that well it
[44:49] was a shitty movie that was fun to watch like it my mind is like certainly that wasn't the case but
[44:54] i know it happened brats is still right still our gold standard okay so hollywood you gotta you've
[44:59] got a job to do right watch the watch the brats movie and learn your lesson yep make every film
[45:04] like that next beyonce uh vehicle brats 2 all grown up yeah all grown up yeah yeah it'd be like
[45:12] it would begin and say five years later the opening of the film would be a title card that
[45:17] says five years later yeah in the in those five years the four brats have merged into one entity
[45:23] like a super brat
[45:24] he called super brats
[45:27] there you go
[45:27] well let's sign off guys
[45:29] I've been Dan McCoy
[45:31] I'm Stuart Wellington
[45:32] I am Emmy Award winning
[45:33] writer Elliot Kalin
[45:34] goodnight
[45:35] nakedness
[45:40] I guess I'm kind of
[45:41] I have a fetish
[45:42] for women with no clothes on
[45:43] I kind of like clothes
[45:44] I like a few clothes
[45:46] I like taking them off
[45:47] I like songs
[45:48] certainly in a perfect world
[45:49] in a perfect world
[45:51] in the film
[45:52] Certainly in the film, a more perfect world.
[45:54] Or just a perfect world, right?
[45:55] I think you're thinking in order to form a more perfect union.
[45:58] Yeah, yeah, that's probably what I'm thinking.
[45:59] Perfect world.
[46:00] That's the one where Kevin Costner plays like a retarded guy or something.
[46:05] He's a criminal on the run who shows a Jehovah's Witness kid his only taste of fun.
[46:10] Time of his life.
[46:11] It's actually a very underrated movie, I find.

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0:00 - 0:33 - Introduction and theme0:34 - 4:14- We engage in a hilarious bit about how everyone spent last weekend.4:15 - 28:26- Race-baiting mixed with Fatal Attraction seems like a recipe for trashy film fun.  And yet, count the times that Dan sighs wearily, while discussing Obsessed.28:27 - 30:30- Final judgments 30:31 - 34:30 - Movie Mailbag34:31 - 39:24 - Inspired by the final letter, we segue directly into a special older "bad movie" edition of sad bastards recommend.39:25 - 43:37 - Which, in turn, devolves into a discussion of T&A comedies.43:38 - 46:15 - A plug from Elliott, goodbyes, theme and outtakes.

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