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The Flop House: Episode #47 - The Unborn
Transcript
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Hibbik shmibbik. Pass the ham. We talk about the unborn.
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Hey everybody and welcome to the Flophouse. I'm Dan McCoy. I'm Stuart Wellington. I'm
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Elliot Kalin, don't you know. Alright. That's my Fargo impression. Oh, okay. So everyone,
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don't you know. Fargo? Yeah, like the movie. Oh, right. What were you saying, Dan? No,
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you know. I haven't seen you guys in a while. Yeah, right. At least since yesterday. I saw
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you yesterday. Yeah, I saw you guys at a street fair. Yeah. In Brooklyn, Brooklyn,
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New York. You said it the way the Dutch would have said it. 300, 400 years ago. In your
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Brooklyn, New York. Do you have some tube steaks, guys? I mean, penises? Hot dogs. Oh,
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see, I would have called that a hot dog. I didn't have any. I did get to see some antique buses.
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Yeah. You were very excited about the antique buses. You sent a text saying that you were
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going to be at Court Street and such and such a place and I was like, okay, we're walking to you
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and then we got to that place and we're like, where's Elliot? And we called you and you're
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like, oh, we got sidetracked by the antique buses. Yeah, they're awesome. I love antique
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transportation. I bet that story was a lot less boring when it was happening. Yeah, I didn't get
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to have a tube steak either, although I was really hoping when I was there to get a tube steak with
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a corn condom on it. You mean a corn dog? Yeah, but I didn't get one when I walked past the first
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place because I thought there was another one. That's a long story. I know Dan was searching
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for sangria the entire time and when we split up and went our separate ways, Daniel, I noticed
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there was a sangria stand steps away from where we had just been standing and where you just left.
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And it said, no Dan's. It said, Dan McCoy's welcome. Oh, no shit. It was too late.
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It was the gallon of sangria I had already had that prevented me from seeing the other sangria.
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Ironic. Yeah. Ironic is what it is. Oh, Henry himself could not have done better.
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You know what this month is, guys? What's that? Shocktober.
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You mean we're on channel 11 right now? WPIX, New York's movie station? Yeah.
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And that's a regional joke. Those who grew up in this region.
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Halloween host. Stuart is wearing a low cut dress. Sure. It's very revealing.
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Very tight around the hips. My hair, black wig. Yeah. My wig is all the way down to my bottom.
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Came up out of a coffin. Yep. I did actually. I'm still kind of covered in webs.
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Well, Stuart, as our rubber bat on a string, as our haunted host, would you like to introduce
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tonight's movie? Yeah, it was. Wait, let me check the piece of paper. It was a spooky treat called
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The Unborn. Wow. That's pretty good. I'm glad you wrote it down. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was really
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scary. I don't know if I can explain this movie. Sure you can. I think the movie was about like a
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Jewish demon or something. It started off being about a Jewish spirit, and then it became near
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the end of the movie, they made a point to say this isn't really a Jewish spirit. Yeah. Well,
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you got to open it up to all sectors if you want to have a blockbuster success. Well,
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it's interesting because I came to the realization a long time ago that for
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most horror movies that are demon related to work, or even bigger ones like Rosemary's Baby
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or The Exorcist or The Omen, you have to for two hours, you have to say, OK, for this to be scary,
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I believe in the tenets of a certain kind of Catholic Catholic apocalypticism. Catholic.
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But like for the next two hours, I believe that the devil is real. I believe that Christ is the
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Lord. I believe in hell. And I believe Roman Polanski didn't rape a small girl. No, you can
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still believe that and enjoy Rosemary's Baby. But it was nice to see a movie where. Wait, what?
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It was nice to see a movie where. Sure, you haven't read the newspapers this week, I assume.
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What? What about? Wait, Roman Polanski did what? It happened 30 years ago.
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Whoa. Wait, we're talking about child right now? I thought we were talking about a movie.
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Let's talk about the movie. Let's get off of this terrible subject that I don't know why it was
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brought up. OK, yeah, come on. Let's keep it. Let's go back on to I mentioned Rosemary's Baby.
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You have to bring up the worst possible aspect of it. Anyway, I was just saying it was nice to see
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a movie where I didn't have to as a Jewish person who doesn't believe in, you know, Christianity and
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all sorts didn't have to decide like, OK, I'm going to buy into this faith that I don't believe
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in for two hours to make the movie work for me. This movie didn't necessarily work for me.
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But the the fact that it started off Jewish and then got to a point where they were like,
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this is just some kind of crazy demon. It probably predates religion. They said it was like,
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oh, OK, I don't have to I don't have to kind of fake a belief in hell for this thing to be scary.
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Yeah, I was just saying that and then Dan took it off into this. Oh, that's what ridiculously
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over here. And then just you're right. You are trying to figure out what you're going to say
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next is our horror host. Yeah, I was writing down like spooky lines and crossing them out with a
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big magic marker on a cue card. I still don't have any. Well, maybe I'll get back to you guys.
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Well, we can talk about what the movie was about then. OK, so, yeah, you want me to summarize this
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one? I'm really good at it. Let's let's see what see how what you can do. OK, the movie.
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The movie begins, right? Right. No, no, no, no. Stewart's correct. So far, the movie did be.
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OK, so I'm going to argue with that. OK, guys, imagine this movie begins. This chick has his
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dream where there's like a crazy kid, right? And like a dog with a fucking mask on, that shit's
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fucking crazy. And then she goes under. It turns out that this was a dream. Like at first, you're
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like, oh, is she in like a magical world or something like that? OK, so it turns out she's
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babysitting for this fucking crazy little kid who talks like that kid from the sixth sense,
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like a grown up or something. And he smashes her face with a mirror. He says Jambi wants to be
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born. Yeah, Jambi. No, it's Jamba. Jambi. That's right. You're thinking of Jambi from Peewee's
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Playhouse. Jambi wants to be born. So it's fucking really weird because he totally smashes her in the
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face with his mirror and like nothing happens. She doesn't even have a mark on her face.
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OK, so fast forward later on. She keeps having these fucking dreams that there's this fucking
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little kid in a mirror. And it looks like the little dead kid from like the little dead kid
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from any horror thing. Yeah, the devil's backbone, but with like an outfit on. It does look like the
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kid in the devil's back. Yeah. So she's like, we're this kid's going to come and kill her or
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something. And then she's doing some Scooby-Doo shit and finds out that she used to like she had
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a twin that died in the womb and that her mom killed herself or something. Her mom went crazy.
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Yeah, went crazy and killed herself. Her mom in a surprisingly, it seemed Carl Gugino in a cameo,
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but no, it was Carl Gugino. It was Carl Gugino. Yeah. According to the Internet. I, you know,
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and so they gave Carl Gugino work, which means I like the movie to a certain extent already.
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Yeah. So she finds out that this old lady at this old folks home is her grandma and her grandma
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tells her this crazy story that about the Holocaust. I wasn't paying that much attention.
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When she heard this old lady, she knows a crazy story about the Holocaust. Let's make it clear
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that Stuart is not Holocaust denying. That's a crazy story about a Holocaust of some kind.
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Whatever. This old lady who turns out is her grandmother says she was a child during the
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Holocaust. She was twins and she had a twin brother and that the Nazis were obsessed with
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twins and discovering the medical secret genetic secrets of twins, which is true to a certain
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extent, and that they were obsessed with creating blue eyes and brown eyed kids, which I don't know
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if it's true. Somehow in the crazy, like Kate Bosworth, obsessed with creating Kate Bosworth.
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I guess so. Sorry, I totally derailed you. Now I'm thinking about Superman Returns
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and how terrible it is. So they but somehow they use experiments that are part medical,
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part occult. And through that. All cop.
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Through that. Dan, you're a firecracker today. Through that, they somehow bring into
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this plane of reality a dybbuk, which is or dybbuk, as they keep saying, which is a bodiless
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spirit in Jewish mysticism. It's, I guess, someone who dies. They don't get into heaven,
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so they wander the earth, unable to interact with the physical realm. And it's a very horrible
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punishment in this. The dybbuk can possess a body, possesses her brother's body after it dies
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from these experiments, comes back. She kills him or he dies in the camps or something like that.
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She has a daughter. The daughter has twins. One of the twins is going to be this possessed by this
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dybbuk because Jumbie wants to be born, dies in the womb. And now this thing Jumbie is angry at
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the family and wants revenge on everyone. So, yeah. Yeah. And that whole deal about not being
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able to interact with the physical world, that's crazy, man, because like that ghost is making her
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see all kinds of shit. She's flipping out. Well, it seems like at the end, they're kind
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of disavowing that it's a dybbuk. Okay. Because, yeah, there's magic all over the place, man.
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aid of uh... gary oldman who's a rabbi is a rap he's the least
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jewish rabbi i think i've ever seen in a minute
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and it's like if they got mister t to play around
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and then like i think your friends are dying and stuff i'm trying to imagine
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that the uh... now i can't have a mystery to use the law it would fit on
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top of the kind of floating above his head because they are
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would like men to me i was
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and then they get interest elba
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who is an episcopal priest all also played basketball obsessed idris elba
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i'm not yet which means that you're saying you think he's now been as many
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flophouse movies as nicholas cage i'd like to know the old she was in a lot of
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them uh... yes you have a bunch
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just galva i think that no one has been in more than three
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i think that just galva has been three i think mccain's been three i think it is
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a is if this podcast is written by david goyer like the movie we watched was
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tonight
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we would explain how the number three is important
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uh... because it's relation to three represent i just read in a book yet
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three represents the trinity and uh... buddhism it's also blah blah blah blah
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blah blah yeah i that's that's good writing
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there's a lot of media dude watching a horror movie needs to find out why the
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number ten is important in a fucking like exorcism ritual he's just let him
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know something is it that uh...
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gary allman says
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ten is the number of such-and-such is in the such-and-such in the blah blahs
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all he has to say
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there's really no reason there has to be
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ten for this bullshit ceremony but all he has to say is
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you need ten people that you need ten men to make a minion
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that's a that's a jewish prayer group you need ten men done ok great and you
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need some extra bodies around when the demon shows up and starts totally acing
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them all that's the real reason so someone can get killed that's not our hero so they go
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back to the decrepit abandoned hospital that her mother died in because i guess
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just open to the public
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in the middle of the night
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uh... is a historical landmark
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sure it looks like they haven't been the place in seventy years
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but uh...
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well this exorcism ceremony one by one everybody's getting killed yep everybody's
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getting crossed out
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uh... and gary allman wakes up the demon by blowing this giant bedazzled shofar
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but it's covered in red sequins it is the gayest most flamboyant shofar
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i've ever seen and the horn is enormous
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yeah it looks like he got it off of like some sort of elk
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so and then the demon shows up and likes big shofars
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uh... it waxes a couple dudes and then jumps into Idris Elba's body and he runs around
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like he got the rage virus injected into his uh... bloodstream
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and then uh... he gets killed and then her boyfriend gets uh... possessed and
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then
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somehow she manages to grab the perfect page that allows her to finish the
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from this book that she looks at it
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this book fucking explodes
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earlier in the movie
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i guess the old lady tells her to get the book of shadows or book of mirrors
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the book of mirrors
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and she goes to the library
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wait she gets the president's book of secrets? no not the last book
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she goes to the library
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i'm going to have to become the president
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i wish that was the plot of that movie
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national treasure two
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run for the white house
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but she goes to the library she types into the regular card catalog computer
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book of mirrors
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the entry comes up for this 400 500 year old hebraic tome
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of kabbalistic secrets with a fucking lock on it and they let her take it
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to look at in the reference room and she just
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picks it up and walks out with it
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and it's ridiculous
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that book should not be in
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the digitized catalog and the weirdest thing is when she goes up to talk to gary oldman
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he's like weird
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he's running all over the place if you just let that circulate
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and gary oldman was even like
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where did you get this like she got it at the fucking library they just had it
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she didn't even try like she didn't even have to pull in like i don't know all of her
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credit or her like street fingers well they didn't even need to use an
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interlibrary loan to get it from you know
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the yeshiva university library
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you know i feel like the
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listener at home's head is spinning
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because they're possessed by a demon
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this is the most
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complex movie and i can just boil it down
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basically
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there's a possessing spirit
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it's been bedeviling this family for like three generations
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and now it's trying to possess the youngest female member of the family
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because jumbie wants to be born
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jumbie jumbo was a famous elephant and the holocaust is thrown in there just to
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make it more distasteful yeah that was
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there were there were a lot of genuinely creepy images in this and then
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they had to throw in the holocaust and it makes everything
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it makes you angry at them for doing that
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to remind you of something that's genuinely horrible as opposed to just
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crappy and
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tawdry
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on the other hand uh... gary oldman is in a yarmulke
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so that was great which is
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oh no saves the movie certainly
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there's a there's a great scene makes the movie worthwhile there's a great scene
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where he shouts at a dog with an upside down head
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i like that what does he say he's like don't paw the furniture get out of here
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get out of here
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and when they're in this like really weird uh...
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what was that like a theater it looked like an abandoned theater space in his synagogue
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it was like
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with like paper flying all over the place
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there's a lot of paper flying around this movie was big on winds blowing paper around yeah
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but uh... there were some neat there were some genuinely neat images there were some cool
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effects like weird mouth effects well we'll get to the final judgment later
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yeah there's there's a lot of uh...
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surprise shots of a ghost kid with a giant mouth clawing at people it got to a point
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where like
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she there were so many surprise shots of this ghost kid attacking the main hero
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heroine
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you got to the point where you're like she must be used to it by now
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certainly she just does she just takes it in stride that this ghost kid is appearing
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she would start getting pissed off and the thing is like this ghost kid shows up and
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just totally starts smoking people like he's like
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oh you're flying around I'm killing you oh now you fold in half like he's super magic
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yeah why the fuck did he like beat around the bush this long well that's one of the
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things about all ghost movies yeah the ghosts don't make themselves clear
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and why if he has these powers doesn't he go straight for the person he wants to kill
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as opposed to everyone else yeah why does it wait I mean is it like a hubris or something
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it doesn't allow us to have one of the greatest car crashes or one of the greatest car hits
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I've ever seen in a movie
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her best friend Romy is driving around just bopping to music and suddenly out of nowhere
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music is played at a very sensible volume yes she's not distracted at all she's driving
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very well and slowly on a deserted suburban street hands a 10-2 gently nodding her head
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to the music sure and there's a this is the kid who hit the main character in the face
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with the mirror earlier has become kind of the dybbuk's main go-to body to possess
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because if you're going to possess a body why not a small child
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well why not the least powerful
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yep it really doesn't make sense why he would go for such an unthreatening figure
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yeah she's driving and he is he's on his big wheel trike and out of nowhere just zooms
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in front of the car not even in front of the car he's like riding on the like the heel
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like the side of the road he seems to be coming at the car almost at a side angle yeah like
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perpendicular to the road and she looked and like the shot from the windshield makes it
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look like she's driving right off the road and she and he is hit in such a way that he
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flips up over the back of the car and when she goes around he's just standing up fine
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no problem and says something threatening to her but it's just so it comes out of nowhere
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and looks so silly that it was great you'd probably go under the car i mean he's not
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he's not he doesn't have very large profile no he would be crushed by the car he's not
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there's no way that he's tall enough that he the part of the body that needs to be hit
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for him to flip in the air is is getting i mean it's funny that he flipped up over
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the car no it made it better certainly but the way that he go the way he comes in on
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the trike it seems very clear to me that he was he's a computer effect that was kind of
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added in so it almost looks like they shot this footage of romey driving around and they're
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like we better scare up this footage oh well we'll just insert the kid you know driving
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into the car good stuff and um funny enough spoiler alert guys it's that little kid ends
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up stabbing romey to death with a knife later on yeah and michelle had to live her days
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out alone yeah no one to go to the high school reunion with it's very sad everybody lives
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in really big nice houses in this movie yeah they live in a in a some of them live in castles
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basically yeah houses like a palatial estate i think they're all heiresses it's possible
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well that's not scary there's a lot of sort of vagueness in this movie like i was never
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clear on how old our heroine was supposed to be because she comes home at the beginning
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of the movie uh babysitting babysitting and having an adventure in that yeah and saying
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hi to her dad before she goes to bed and then in the next few scenes she's going to what
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appears to be a college class and then like having sex with her boyfriend in her room
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and just like not even like hiding that at all the dad is not a good dad the dad seems
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to disappear for most of the film and they don't really have sex you just see her like
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lying on his naked chest they could have just had handjobs or something but i guess that's
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sex yeah it's implied that they had sex they just they just they just shared some handjobs
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they had the menu yes i look in the menu i got a six pack of handjobs i'm not gonna finish
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it myself do you want to finish it with me how much are the handjobs they look reasonable
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so but i mean i know guys handjobs still sex okay you know what i mean i mean it's still
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intimate contact but like i'm just trying to clarify so the viewer's not like oh wait
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there's a sex scene in this maybe i'll watch no there is not there's nothing but the implication
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of a sexy let me tell you that you know we are all human men we are three what human
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males as far as you know healthy human males sure uh varying degrees of health we have
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to admit that one thing that drew us
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to this movie, above all other Shocktober options, was the fact that the poster for
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this film unabashedly featured the lead female backside in very trimmed cotton panties as
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she looked into the mirror and like there was the horrible kid looking out of her...
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Jumbo or whatever.
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Jumbie.
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Jumbo is a famous elephant.
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And I was saying, you know, ahead of time, like, oh, you know, this is just a, come on,
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you know, like...
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Surely that scene won't appear.
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It's an exploitation film.
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Yeah, they're not going to have a scene in the movie where the heroine is in her panties.
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But it's...
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It's right there.
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There's like five.
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There's like five of them.
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The woman just keeps going back into the bathroom in her underwear.
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It's like Boston Translation.
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Yeah.
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When she is by herself, the pants go off.
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And she stares into her bathroom mirror.
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I heard that.
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But again, and this is going to sound crass of me.
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They obviously did some retouching on her unsaid backside in the poster.
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Yeah.
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It's noticeably shapelier.
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Yeah.
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You were very openly disappointed about her backside in the film.
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Yeah.
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I kicked over a table.
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Yep.
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I was disappointed.
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Surely, Elliot...
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I had to hold you back.
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You were swearing.
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Surely, Elliot, there would never be a horror movie poster that promises more than the film
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delivers.
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I'm just saying the poster promised a certain amount of shapeliness.
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You've got Carl Gugino in the film.
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Right.
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She could very easily...
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We all know your love for Carl Gugino.
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Yeah.
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She could very easily decide for the main character.
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All right.
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Well, maybe Elliot Cailin's The Unborn.
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You can make it the way you want to make it.
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Oh, if only.
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Oh, yeah.
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Elliot Cailin's The Unborn would be a very different movie.
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Let's hear about it.
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Yeah.
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What's the deal there?
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Well, for one thing, a whole lot more Jewish stuff.
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Yeah.
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Every one of the movies is Jewish.
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It takes place during Fiddler on the Roof times.
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Okay.
[21:44]
So it's in the shtetl in Russia.
[21:45]
Sure.
[21:46]
Pale of Settlement.
[21:47]
And it's the same basic plot otherwise.
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Just...
[21:51]
And they break out into song every couple of minutes.
[21:53]
Same actors though, right?
[21:54]
No.
[21:55]
Different actors.
[21:56]
Topol.
[21:57]
Let's see.
[21:58]
Who else?
[21:59]
Who would play Romi?
[22:00]
The rest of the cast of Fiddler on the Roof.
[22:01]
That's the best you can do.
[22:02]
Well, I don't really have...
[22:03]
Topol.
[22:04]
Who would play...
[22:05]
Other Jewish actors.
[22:06]
Who would play Jambi?
[22:07]
Jambi.
[22:08]
I think I'd get Wallace Shawn probably.
[22:09]
Yeah.
[22:10]
How much better would the movie have been if it was Wallace Shawn saying, Jambi wants to
[22:11]
be born.
[22:12]
Yeah.
[22:13]
Like that.
[22:14]
Spooky.
[22:15]
Yeah.
[22:16]
Yeah.
[22:17]
Yeah.
[22:18]
Yeah.
[22:19]
Yeah.
[22:20]
Yeah.
[22:21]
Yeah.
[22:22]
Yeah.
[22:23]
Yeah.
[22:24]
Yeah.
[22:25]
Yeah.
[22:26]
Yeah.
[22:27]
Yeah.
[22:28]
Yeah.
[22:29]
Yeah.
[22:30]
Like that.
[22:31]
Speaking of Jambi, is Mekelechahi Mekehaneo Hebrew?
[22:32]
I don't believe so.
[22:33]
Okay.
[22:34]
I don't believe so.
[22:35]
There's not a lot of Hebrew genies.
[22:36]
No.
[22:37]
They tend to be Arab.
[22:38]
Conflicting ideologies.
[22:39]
But what's...
[22:40]
She looks into a lot of mirrors in this.
[22:41]
She's always looking into things she shouldn't.
[22:42]
And there's a scene where she's in the bathroom of the club she went to.
[22:46]
And as Stuart pointed out, she is looking in a mirror again.
[22:50]
She knows mirrors are scary.
[22:51]
She looks in another one.
[22:53]
It scares her.
[22:54]
She's throwing up out of fright.
[22:55]
And there's very clearly a glory hole in the wall of the urinal.
[22:58]
Yeah.
[22:59]
It's openly a glory hole.
[23:00]
And she starts moving towards it very slowly.
[23:02]
Yeah.
[23:03]
Putting her eye up to the glory hole.
[23:04]
Putting her eye up to it.
[23:05]
And you know something scary is going to come out of it.
[23:06]
In this case, it's a whole lot of bugs and like shit which are flying at her.
[23:08]
Yeah.
[23:09]
But she's not even like going to the opposite side of the fucking thing and get closer.
[23:12]
Best case scenario, it's going to be a penis coming out of her eye.
[23:15]
Yeah.
[23:16]
She slides her fucking head along the same wall and like gets as close as possible.
[23:21]
And I thought it was refreshing to see a horror film that uses a glory hole for whatever reason.
[23:27]
It took me back to my days of using any of the public bathrooms at the NYU campus and
[23:33]
realizing that people had made those holes into the dividers.
[23:36]
Wow.
[23:37]
On a non-glory hole related note, I did want to correct what you said was that you said
[23:42]
that she started vomiting because she was sick.
[23:45]
She was actually vomiting because she's pregnant with twins, one of which is going to be Jumbo
[23:50]
Jr.
[23:51]
Jumbo Jr.
[23:52]
That's the secret.
[23:53]
Jumbo Jr.
[23:54]
The best hot dog brand in town, Jumbo Jr. hot dogs.
[23:58]
That's the secret surprise shock ending at the end which is told in super flash cut scenes
[24:03]
is that she's pregnant with twins, ba-ba-bum, one of them's probably Jumby.
[24:08]
And you're supposed to, the audience member, feel stupid for not having seen all the signs
[24:11]
rather than like me and not caring.
[24:13]
Well, what were the other signs?
[24:15]
She had sex.
[24:16]
Yeah, sure.
[24:17]
That's how it works.
[24:18]
That's true.
[24:19]
She...
[24:21]
But when they show...
[24:22]
She kept eating pickles and ice cream together.
[24:24]
The image of those fetuses that they're showing are very well-developed.
[24:28]
Like she should know.
[24:29]
They're saying, they're like, you're pregnant with twins.
[24:32]
And the image, they already have fingers.
[24:34]
Like one of them winked or something, right?
[24:35]
I don't think they...
[24:36]
It would have been great if it did.
[24:37]
But they already have fingers and faces like she's really far along.
[24:41]
Yeah.
[24:42]
Like possibly like the fetus turns and winks and it cuts immediately to like a heavy metal
[24:48]
like scream and the guitars.
[24:52]
You gotta have like a Sammy Hagar scream in there.
[24:56]
Yeah.
[24:57]
And then the credits, there are graphics of...
[24:58]
The unborn flashes.
[24:59]
There are graphics, like while the credits are rolling in the middle, maybe on the sides,
[25:02]
there are animated graphics of the evil fetus like appearing and looking around and then
[25:06]
running off to the side of the screen and then showing up with a guitar.
[25:10]
Wearing like a little tuxedo or something?
[25:11]
Yes.
[25:12]
Wearing a tuxedo and holding a cigar.
[25:15]
And Converse shoes.
[25:16]
Sure.
[25:18]
And Ali...
[25:19]
Tails.
[25:20]
Tails.
[25:21]
Tails, yeah.
[25:22]
Of course.
[25:23]
Yeah.
[25:24]
Like a Barren Samity style figure.
[25:25]
So wait, she's giving birth to the New Year?
[25:29]
Is that what's going on?
[25:30]
Kind of, yeah.
[25:31]
Basically, yeah.
[25:32]
Baby New Year.
[25:33]
But he's also a skeleton face.
[25:35]
Yeah.
[25:36]
Like Barren Samity.
[25:37]
Yeah.
[25:38]
Wow.
[25:39]
So basically, The Unborn is about unborn babies.
[25:41]
It's a pro-abortion.
[25:43]
It is a very seriously, I assumed it was about an aborted baby that wanted to live and was
[25:49]
coming back for revenge.
[25:50]
It is not.
[25:51]
Yeah.
[25:52]
It is saying you should abort your children.
[25:53]
Yeah.
[25:54]
Because they will be evil.
[25:55]
Yeah.
[25:56]
Get rid of them shits.
[25:57]
Yeah.
[25:58]
You never know.
[25:59]
There might be a Dybbuk.
[26:00]
There is a Dybbuk inside you, which is not how Dybbuks work, but it still could be.
[26:03]
The only other child in this film is a fucking, like a little demon vessel, like all kids.
[26:08]
No way.
[26:09]
No way.
[26:10]
Get rid of them.
[26:11]
It's an anti-kids movie.
[26:12]
It's pro-kids, which is pro-kids.
[26:13]
Yeah.
[26:14]
Pro-kids.
[26:15]
It's pro-kids.
[26:16]
Pro-kid sneakers.
[26:17]
Sure.
[26:18]
It's pro-roos.
[26:19]
Those sneakers that had little pockets in them.
[26:20]
Oh, sure.
[26:21]
Big enough to put like a penny in.
[26:22]
Kids don't have a lot to carry around with them.
[26:23]
Nowadays, all those kids wear those Heelys with the wheels.
[26:24]
With the wheels.
[26:25]
I wish I had those when I was a kid.
[26:26]
Yeah.
[26:27]
I would have hurt myself so bad on those.
[26:28]
They would have been awesome.
[26:29]
I dream of children hurting themselves while wearing those.
[26:30]
Yeah.
[26:31]
Yeah.
[26:32]
Yeah.
[26:33]
Yeah.
[26:34]
Yeah.
[26:35]
Yeah.
[26:36]
Yeah.
[26:37]
Yeah.
[26:38]
Yeah.
[26:39]
Yeah.
[26:40]
Yeah.
[26:41]
It's a lot of people wearing those, actually.
[26:42]
They're not like sexual dreams or anything.
[26:43]
They're just, you know.
[26:44]
Well, Freud would say every dream has a sexual element.
[26:45]
Oh, interesting.
[26:46]
Yeah.
[26:47]
But he was a pervert.
[26:48]
Should we talk about that more?
[26:49]
Sure.
[26:50]
Well, Sigmund Freud was one of the great minds of the late 19th, early 20th century.
[26:51]
Oh!
[26:52]
He was in Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.
[26:53]
He was in that, yes.
[26:54]
Okay.
[26:55]
And also The 7% Solution, where he treats Sherlock Holmes in the most boring way possible.
[26:56]
Hey!
[26:57]
That's a boring movie.
[26:58]
That's a boring movie.
[26:59]
It's a good book, though.
[27:00]
I've never seen that movie.
[27:01]
I've never seen that movie.
[27:02]
I've never seen that movie.
[27:03]
I've never read the book.
[27:04]
I'm sure it's good.
[27:05]
The movie is boring.
[27:06]
I think Kelsey Grammer would make a good Sigmund Freud.
[27:07]
If there was a sitcom about Freud.
[27:08]
Yeah.
[27:09]
And it was called, like, On the Couch.
[27:10]
Dude, let's write that sitcom.
[27:11]
I think that would be fun.
[27:12]
Because Hank is going to be cancelled.
[27:13]
Cancelled.
[27:14]
You know, so.
[27:15]
And he's going to be free, I bet.
[27:16]
Yeah.
[27:17]
McHale's Navy 2 is not starting filming for another year.
[27:18]
That was up Periscope.
[27:19]
Or down Periscope.
[27:20]
Yeah.
[27:21]
That Periscope movie.
[27:22]
McHale's Navy starred a totally...
[27:23]
Tom Arnold.
[27:24]
Tom Arnold.
[27:25]
Tom Arnold.
[27:26]
Tom Arnold.
[27:27]
Tom Arnold.
[27:28]
Tom Arnold.
[27:29]
Tom Arnold.
[27:30]
Tom Arnold.
[27:34]
Tom Arnold, Bruce Campbell, and Tim Curry.
[27:35]
Come on!
[27:36]
What?
[27:37]
Pick your bad Mabel films straight.
[27:38]
Come on.
[27:39]
And don't even get mixed up with Sergeant Bilko.
[27:40]
That was Steve Martin.
[27:41]
Playing Phil Silvers.
[27:42]
Phil Hartman.
[27:43]
The late Phil Hartman in one of his final roles.
[27:44]
Wait, Phil Hartman died?
[27:45]
I've got to start reading these celebrity newspapers.
[27:46]
Yeah, you're right.
[27:47]
He died about 12 years ago.
[27:48]
These celebrity newspapers that all the celebrities do.
[27:49]
Celebrity newspapers called newspapers.
[27:50]
I've got to read them.
[27:51]
I've got to read them.
[27:52]
I've got to read them.
[27:53]
I've got to read them.
[27:54]
I've got to read them.
[27:55]
I've got to read them.
[27:56]
I've got to read them.
[27:57]
I've got to read them.
[28:29]
Yeah.
[28:30]
I'm stuck in time.
[28:31]
Yeah.
[28:32]
Yeah.
[28:33]
You're living all of the worst celebrity scandals all at once.
[28:34]
That sounds like me.
[28:35]
So we go from reading about Roland Plansky to talking to Fatty Arbuckle.
[28:42]
To watching John Wilkes Booth kill the President.
[28:44]
Wow.
[28:45]
What?
[28:46]
I don't know if that's a celebrity scandal.
[28:48]
He was a celebrity.
[28:49]
Yeah, but I...
[28:50]
Wait, the President?
[28:51]
Oh, so you're saying that it wasn't scandalous?
[28:53]
It was not a controversial move to shoot the President in the head?
[28:58]
Wow.
[28:59]
Dan, in a strangely pro-Lincoln assassination stance.
[29:02]
I just don't think that public opinion is the important thing in that case.
[29:03]
I wasn't expecting that.
[29:04]
It's like I don't even know you anymore.
[29:05]
He keeps talking about rape.
[29:06]
The death of the President.
[29:08]
You better believe John Wilkes Booth's agent was on the phone with him saying, you've ruined
[29:12]
your career.
[29:13]
We've got to do some serious damage control, babe.
[29:14]
Yeah, his name was Mud.
[29:16]
Eh?
[29:17]
Eh?
[29:18]
Eh?
[29:19]
Mud was a different person.
[29:20]
All right.
[29:21]
Who deserved what he got.
[29:22]
Okay.
[29:23]
So, thanks for taking me through the history books, guys.
[29:26]
Yep.
[29:28]
It was a kaleidoscopic version of American history.
[29:31]
Yep.
[29:32]
So, back to the business at hand, you know what I mean?
[29:36]
Yep.
[29:37]
We're talking about The Unborn, and I think it might be time for Final Judgments, unless
[29:42]
we want to talk about glory holes and demons more.
[29:44]
Well, no.
[29:45]
I don't think so.
[29:46]
Okay, so Final Judgments.
[29:47]
We did not talk too much about the demon scenes, which were pretty cool.
[29:50]
Which were like, with the scary face effects?
[29:52]
Yeah, scary faces and bugs everywhere.
[29:53]
Yeah.
[29:54]
Did they use that editing style with the really ...
[29:58]
It's all jittery?
[30:00]
and flashy and there's like dudes whose heads turn upside down.
[30:03]
I mean, it was better than normal in the movies we've seen.
[30:06]
I mean, wait, like compared to what?
[30:08]
Like compared to what at the end?
[30:09]
Mirrors?
[30:10]
Yeah, basically.
[30:11]
Well, yeah, that's fair.
[30:12]
But that didn't make it good.
[30:13]
But mirrors had that great twist ending, so that made everything okay.
[30:17]
What?
[30:18]
Twist ending at the end of mirrors.
[30:20]
You know where he ends up stuck in the mirror world.
[30:22]
Wait, what movie was this?
[30:24]
This is in mirrors.
[30:25]
Which was?
[30:26]
Keeper Sutherland.
[30:27]
Keeper Sutherland.
[30:28]
Wait, in that movie?
[30:29]
That happened?
[30:30]
Yes.
[30:31]
At the end of that, he ends up in a mirror world.
[30:32]
He's stuck in the mirror.
[30:33]
What are you talking about?
[30:35]
It's the twist ending.
[30:37]
Get out of here.
[30:38]
That didn't happen.
[30:39]
And that was a Flophouse classic redux.
[30:41]
Hey, okay, so.
[30:43]
We're back.
[30:44]
We're back.
[30:45]
So Final Judgment, is that what we're doing?
[30:46]
Yeah, let's do it.
[30:47]
Final Judgment.
[30:48]
So the special Shocktober categories for Final Judgment is.
[30:53]
Uh-oh, that we will forget instantly.
[30:54]
You're outdoing me again.
[30:56]
Was this movie.
[30:57]
Did you do the horror host?
[30:58]
I'm terrible at this job.
[30:59]
Was this movie totally scarifying, frighteningly funny, or totally snorifying?
[31:07]
I put a lot of work into this.
[31:11]
Yeah, I'm going to go.
[31:12]
You know what?
[31:13]
I think I'm going to go frighteningly funny.
[31:16]
It was, you know, it was shitty, but there was, you know, there was some white cotton
[31:21]
panties, and upside down head demons, and kids on.
[31:24]
Sure.
[31:25]
Kids getting run over by cars.
[31:27]
Yeah, no, there was some laughs to be had.
[31:30]
So, yeah, the unborn.
[31:32]
Give it a watch, huh?
[31:33]
Yeah, I, you know, if I was going to be charitable, I'd say frighteningly funny.
[31:37]
I mean, it is a trim 88 minutes.
[31:40]
Shorter than the movie 88 minutes.
[31:42]
Yeah.
[31:43]
By like 80 minutes.
[31:44]
But there was also a lot of stuff that just, I don't know, there was just a lot of slow
[31:48]
parts.
[31:49]
And I was saying during the movie that I hate the trend in modern horror movies to have
[31:54]
it be a mystery as well.
[31:56]
Like a bunch of scary stuff happens and then our hero or heroine has to track down why
[32:02]
all the scary stuff is happening by piecing together the events of the past.
[32:06]
Like I would rather there be a situation given and our hero have to deal with that than to
[32:13]
try and add some sort of mysterious obfuscation.
[32:18]
I don't know if I'm saying that word correctly.
[32:20]
Sure.
[32:21]
Kind of.
[32:22]
It's pronounced obfuscation.
[32:23]
Obfuscation.
[32:24]
I say, you know, try and spice it up.
[32:26]
I think it's enough that like horrible things are happening without the mystery element.
[32:30]
Well, you're an old school guy.
[32:32]
Yeah.
[32:33]
But yeah, I think it's a little snorifying.
[32:35]
But there are some frighteningly funny parts.
[32:38]
I am going to go with Stuart on this one and say frighteningly funny.
[32:41]
Again, it was very short.
[32:43]
I actually enjoyed some of the scare scenes, although they were kind of by the numbers.
[32:47]
The rest of it is very bad, but there were some funny parts and it's short, like I said.
[32:51]
There's a little kid getting hit by a car, Dan.
[32:53]
All right.
[32:54]
Two against one.
[32:55]
That scene is very funny.
[32:56]
Frighteningly so.
[32:57]
Yeah.
[32:58]
Oh, man.
[32:59]
So the decision's been made.
[33:01]
Judgment has been handed down.
[33:03]
Yeah, by the judge gods.
[33:04]
Maybe it's just that the last couple movies we've seen have been so bad.
[33:07]
This one was a breath of crap air.
[33:10]
Sure.
[33:11]
Well, I guess you have handed down the law.
[33:13]
Yeah.
[33:14]
The ape shall not kill ape.
[33:15]
Oh, you mean real law.
[33:17]
Yeah.
[33:18]
Like the Ten Commandments.
[33:20]
Sure.
[33:21]
Like ape law.
[33:22]
Ape shall not kill ape.
[33:23]
Shall ape kill human?
[33:25]
You're late.
[33:26]
I thought about going to ape law school to study ape law for a while.
[33:32]
Not as much of a call for it as there once was.
[33:34]
No.
[33:35]
I deal mostly with ape family law.
[33:37]
You know, estate planning, things like that.
[33:40]
A lot of ape custody suits.
[33:44]
Ape immigration law.
[33:45]
Ape intellectual property theft.
[33:47]
Wow.
[33:48]
Ape intellectual property theft.
[33:51]
That was Bobo's stick.
[33:54]
You stole it, Coco.
[34:00]
This is a surprisingly fertile vein, anyway, you're saying.
[34:04]
So, I have in my hand a letter.
[34:07]
Oh, really?
[34:09]
That's what that is.
[34:11]
It's from Colin, last name withheld.
[34:14]
And the subject...
[34:15]
That's family.
[34:16]
It's huge.
[34:18]
Here comes Peter Floppentale, and he says...
[34:21]
He says, I am a Nigerian prince.
[34:25]
Colin, I wish you could see Stuart's face when I read the subject heading.
[34:30]
But he says...
[34:31]
Have you ever seen Edvard Munch's The Scream?
[34:34]
That's pretty much it.
[34:35]
Wait, the movie The Scream?
[34:37]
No, it's not a movie.
[34:39]
Oh, right, that painting.
[34:41]
The painting, or inflatable thing that you see in dorms.
[34:45]
But this gentleman says, Colin, last name withheld, he says...
[34:48]
Hello, fellas.
[34:49]
I continue to love the podcast and eagerly await each new episode.
[34:53]
Thank you.
[34:54]
But I think you've been remiss for the last two years of flop history.
[34:57]
What?
[34:58]
You've not had a gimmick episode.
[35:00]
Everyone remembers the must-see TV night where all the New York-based shows,
[35:03]
except Seinfeld, were an electrical blackout.
[35:06]
That's right, because Seinfeld is in LA, New York.
[35:09]
Why not then an episode where the Flophouse crew take on each other's personalities?
[35:15]
Or an episode where your respective Flophouse significant others portray Dan, Stuart, and Elliot?
[35:21]
Or an episode of The Flophouse 2020?
[35:24]
No?
[35:25]
Okay, well, I've been meaning to provide you guys with a link on my somewhat popular movie monologue site.
[35:29]
You can view it here at, and he gives the address, which I will post on the blog.
[35:34]
Perhaps it will prove helpful in getting the word out in regard to The Flophouse.
[35:38]
Now, I don't know if this is a contest entry for the Flophouse floppers to promote us.
[35:43]
Through lack of entries, it might be drafted as one.
[35:46]
Yeah, but it was nice of him to post our link, and he says some kind words on his website.
[35:54]
Yeah.
[35:55]
That's very nice.
[35:56]
I think about these gimmick episode ideas, though.
[35:58]
Yeah, I like future us.
[36:00]
Yeah, Flophouse 2020 sounds pretty cool.
[36:02]
Wait, that's a couple of years from now.
[36:04]
Oh, or is it that one of us is Hugh Downs and one of us is Barbara Walters?
[36:08]
Oh, I like that.
[36:09]
And we're talking about stories you wouldn't see in the mainstream, in the nightly news, but that you should know about.
[36:14]
Yeah, I think that sounds pretty good.
[36:16]
I couldn't think of something that our significant others would be less interested in than doing a bad movie.
[36:22]
I was thinking the same thing.
[36:23]
They'd probably get bored.
[36:25]
Yeah.
[36:26]
They would be.
[36:27]
They're talking about lady stuff.
[36:28]
Yep.
[36:29]
They'd probably talk about dirty dancing or something.
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Sure, like a cute boy they saw one time.
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That's what girls talk about.
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Yeah, or like that bump it thing they saw on TV.
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He was wearing a white dress.
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He was carrying a white parasol.
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I didn't see him for a minute.
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He didn't see me at all.
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But I bet a month hasn't gone by since.
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I haven't thought of that boy.
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That's right.
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That's what women are like.
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They're like Bernstein from Citizen Kane.
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They're just like Everett Sloan in Citizen Kane.
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What was the other one?
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It was 2020, significant others.
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Oh, we take each other's personality.
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Yeah, I think that that would just devolve into insulting each other.
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Probably.
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I'd be like Stewart and I'd be like, hey, dude, I've got a big penis.
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Elliot would be like, I'm Dan, stay on topic.
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I don't know.
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We'd get angry at each other.
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Probably.
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Fuck you, Dan.
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Although it does make me wish that we could start an episode saying, listeners note,
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before this episode, Dan, Stewart, and Elliot accidentally touched a magic skull
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and their personalities were transferred.
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They all beat up a gypsy woman before this podcast.
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She transferred from their brains into each other's brains.
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It was really weird, dudes.
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Then everything got cured.
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Now to the vlog house.
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It was kind of like how I wanted that show.
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You know that show Life on Mars that they redid over here in the old United States?
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In the colonies.
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I was always hoping that the opening bit of the open credits would show,
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have a song and have them like,
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and then he insulted a gypsy and she totally sent him into the past.
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That would be way better because then it would summarize everything.
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I'd be more interested.
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I just wanted the last episode of him to wake up and be like, it was all a dream on Mars,
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and it turns out he's actually an astronaut on Mars.
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Dude, that was totally the ending to the U.S. version.
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I didn't watch it, but I heard all these people complaining online about how crazy the ending
[38:18]
to the U.S. version of Life on Mars was, and the ending was, you know, he wakes up.
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Spoiler alert.
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Spoiler alert to the show.
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Nobody watched, and that's why it's off the air.
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He's been in suspended animation as an astronaut,
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and he got to choose a vivid dream to keep his mind occupied while he was in suspended animation,
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and so he chose to be a cop.
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That is great.
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That is such a stupid, terribly unsatisfying great ending.
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That's like the end of Open Your Eyes.
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That's really dumb.
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By the way, there were no hints for this, but your brain is alive in a jar somewhere.
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Yeah, that sounds great.
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He was an astronaut.
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Because you know the network executives were like, well, when does Mars come into it?
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I don't understand.
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He's never going into outer space.
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David Bowie?
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That's what they said.
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That's exactly what they said.
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So that sounds great.
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I'm glad I brought up Life on Mars.
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Life on Mars.
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Oh, this is the part of the show you're looking at me for directions.
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Well, horror host, maybe you should host something.
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Okay, okay, boils and ghouls.
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I hope you're ready for some scary movie recommendations as it is Shocktober,
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so we're going to recommend some movies we actually like and may or may not have seen recently,
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starting with Elliot.
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Me?
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Yes, Elliot.
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Tell us a scary movie you liked.
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I'm going to mention two movies.
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Are they both scary?
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One is and one is not.
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Start with the scary one.
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Wow, he's really taking control.
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I love your horror host character went from Elvira to Saw to Jigsaw like do it
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Hey boys and ghouls. You've got it. You've got a decision to make
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Let's play a little game. Tell me two movies. One of them better be scary the thing
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I haven't seen any scary movies recently that I
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Really loved and I'm trying to think of one that I haven't recommended in the past
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I want to recommend but like I was ones I want to recommend
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I think I've recommended before like persona or in the mouth of madness or those are my favorite
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What about ghostbusters?
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Ghostbusters is not a scary movie, but I will mention that it is I was a kid
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It was really it is the 25th anniversary of Ghostbusters and I've been celebrating it all year. So
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But the movie I want so there's a bunch of scary movies out there. You can go see him
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Okay, persona scariest movie I ever saw in the mouth of madness my favorite John Carpenter movie personally
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But recently I saw a movie called his kind of woman starring Robert Mitchum and Jane Russell and
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Vincent Price and it is a movie that starts out as a film noir and then becomes kind of a
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Tongue-in-cheek film noir and then by the end is just out-and-out
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Comedy with some surprisingly violent scenes
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Like it's one of the few it's from
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1951 I think but there's a scene where a guy gets shot in the chest and blood drips out of his chest and it's just
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Like but it was one of the more graphic scenes. I've seen in all movie, but it's a lot of fun
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Robert Mitchum's in it and Vincent Price has one of I think his best roles ever as a ham actor named Mark Cardigan who?
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is is in this resort that Robert Mitchum has been sent to by a famous crime Lord and
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basically decides to
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become a hero in it and there are these great scenes of Vincent Price like giving speeches to the other characters and
[41:49]
Basically hamming it up and being really but his performance becomes very affecting so I recommend it a lot Daniel
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I'm having a hard time coming up with a good horror movie
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But I did see fairly recently
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The movie splinter about like oh they about the Ninja Turtles mentor. Sure now about a little pick
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Biopics are scary because they're true
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No, it's about like a weird sort of
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virus like most
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Movies are most horror movies are these days. It seems like but like more of a kind of this strange fungus that creates
[42:27]
Splinters on people that can shoot out and sort of infect them and they come all pointy and weird
[42:34]
Porcupine they should have called it the pointy people pretty gross and
[42:38]
Have you seen it sort splinter? Yeah. Yeah, it was pretty gross. It's a pretty good like
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Basically three people stuck in a enclosed space
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horror movie survival horror, they're all in a
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gas station
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maternity ward or
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and they have to fend off these people and figure out how to get out of there, but
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What I'm going to also recommend is on Netflix watch instantly. I noticed that the movie
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I'll believe you
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Aka first time caller is available on watch instantly and this is a film
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that
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along with
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Roles by Patrick warburton Fred Willard at Helms and Chris Elliott. It also has some former flop house co-hosts in it
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This is like a most glittering stars. Yeah, this is a small independent comedy
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It sat on the shelf for a few years then it got a very small like release and now it's on DVD
[43:39]
But one Rich Duncan
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the co-writer of the werewolf book and
[43:46]
often a frequent co-host plays Craig the engineer and
[43:51]
Amanda Melson and Bob Powers both play radio callers. Oh, wow. It's not a great comedy
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You know
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it has the problem that a lot of like small comedies have which
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It kind of drags a little like they don't have I mean
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I mean, I feel like you can make a great movie obviously as an independent filmmaker
[44:07]
but nope
[44:09]
keeping up the energy sometimes on like a low-budget film is
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Harder without like the resources really like make it snap and so there's like some draggy parts in the middle
[44:21]
But there's some really funny stuff in it, too
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And if you're ever curious to see what Rich Duncan looked like
[44:27]
With more hair than he has now you can watch first time caller. I gotta see that. Okay, I'll believe you
[44:33]
I gotta check that out. I like those people. Yeah, I don't actually have a good horror movie
[44:38]
You were the one who wanted the scary movies. Well, I know I do I'll talk about a scary movie. I
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Yeah, this time of year always makes me go even more out of my way to watch shitty horror movies and this week was no different
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I read I rewatched Edward Furlong's masterpiece
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Because he's in its brain scan where he plays a dude with
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Who gets sucked into a video game that turns him into a killer?
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And it's very clearly an attempt to create a new franchise
[45:08]
With this like like weird dude character who like kind of haunts him and helps possess him and stuff
[45:15]
Similar to Wes Craven's shocker, which was not what I was expecting
[45:19]
I like the lawnmower man similar to the lawnmower man
[45:22]
But not based on or D Snyder's strange land or like D Snyder strange
[45:26]
I like to think that Eddie Furlong's ancestors were Vikings and they killed some sort of a haired serpent and
[45:33]
So he was like Bjorn killer of the long fur and that over time became furlong sure
[45:40]
Could just be the measure of
[45:43]
Elaborate fantasy as to the derivation of Eddie Furlong. I have less and I saw teaching a lot when I was a kid
[45:49]
Yeah, I read that story on your that that blog you write about Eddie Furlong. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah furlongs and furlongs
[45:56]
Yeah, where you have you have some slash Vic about the various characters. He's been yeah
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Well, there's a little bit about him and the guy who was on salute your shorts
[46:03]
Who was also in Terminator 2 a little blood him Arnold Schwarzenegger a little about him on Robert Patrick
[46:08]
You're kind of teaching him what it's like to be human. Exactly. Yeah
[46:12]
I have no emotions. Well, let me try. Let's try this then. Yeah, there's a lot of subtext in those movies
[46:17]
You can really oh, yeah, I've been to that thumbs up at the end. I know there's a lot of pecker fanfiction on there
[46:24]
What happened to the character after the film was over, you know, sure a lot of
[46:29]
Baltimore's all like body
[46:31]
Crow for was it I don't remember which one for a lot of Eddie Furlong John Waters slash cemetery, too
[46:38]
Yes, yeah, one of my favorite favorite movies of all
[46:44]
So what and what else besides brain scan
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Yeah, I can't I can't think anything else. So I've saw brain scan this week. I saw I watched a bunch of shit
[46:53]
I watched you know, I watched head of the family again. That was great. Do you own that? No, I don't
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Not yet
[47:00]
Not until they come out with a blu-ray edition. All right guys
[47:03]
Now you're just chatting. Not every movie gets a blu-ray edition. Apparently only screwballs gets one. Yep
[47:09]
Okay, so what now? What do we do Dan now? We sign off. Oh cool. Why don't you do it Stewart?
[47:14]
Why don't you kick us off since you're our okay guys. Well hose
[47:18]
For the flop house. I've been
[47:22]
Like a like Bewart Wellington
[47:25]
Smelly down
[47:28]
I've been
[47:30]
Sandman come back to me later
[47:33]
Okay. Okay. That's not that good. But that's cool. Helly it kill him. Oh, he's been doing this whole time
[47:40]
I've been thinking about that. Yeah, okay. That's why I've been so lackluster this episode. Good night folks
[47:47]
You should be glad it wasn't chowder fest chowder all his beard
[47:55]
By the way chowder fest is coming up
[47:57]
Guys, what are your plans for chowder fest?
[47:59]
Check check chowders check chowder fest chowder fest too many chowder heads malicious chowder
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Miskatonic misc misc. It's not a university a tonic University. I got my
[48:11]
undergraduate there
[48:15]
Yep in elder care in feline masturbation. All right, and that's over don't know why that went there
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Don't worry, that'll just be at the end after
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All right, that'll be our stinger
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That's what I used to call it on a mystery science theater, I think watch out for snakes
Description
0:00 - 0:34 - Introduction and SPOOKY theme0:35 - 2:27 - The usual off-topic nonsense up front.2:28 - 30:44- Finally, the pro-abortion, anti-holocaust, Jewish demon horror story you've been waiting for! The Unborn.30:45 - 34:04- Final judgments 34:05 - 39:29 - Movie Mailbag39:30 - 47:11 - A special SHOCKTOBER sad bastards recommend. 47:12 - 48:37 - Goodbyes, theme and outtakes.
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