main Episode #80 Oct 10, 2009 00:48:37

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[0:00] Hibbik shmibbik. Pass the ham. We talk about the unborn.
[0:30] Hey everybody and welcome to the Flophouse. I'm Dan McCoy. I'm Stuart Wellington. I'm
[0:39] Elliot Kalin, don't you know. Alright. That's my Fargo impression. Oh, okay. So everyone,
[0:45] don't you know. Fargo? Yeah, like the movie. Oh, right. What were you saying, Dan? No,
[0:51] you know. I haven't seen you guys in a while. Yeah, right. At least since yesterday. I saw
[0:55] you yesterday. Yeah, I saw you guys at a street fair. Yeah. In Brooklyn, Brooklyn,
[0:59] New York. You said it the way the Dutch would have said it. 300, 400 years ago. In your
[1:05] Brooklyn, New York. Do you have some tube steaks, guys? I mean, penises? Hot dogs. Oh,
[1:14] see, I would have called that a hot dog. I didn't have any. I did get to see some antique buses.
[1:21] Yeah. You were very excited about the antique buses. You sent a text saying that you were
[1:26] going to be at Court Street and such and such a place and I was like, okay, we're walking to you
[1:32] and then we got to that place and we're like, where's Elliot? And we called you and you're
[1:37] like, oh, we got sidetracked by the antique buses. Yeah, they're awesome. I love antique
[1:41] transportation. I bet that story was a lot less boring when it was happening. Yeah, I didn't get
[1:46] to have a tube steak either, although I was really hoping when I was there to get a tube steak with
[1:50] a corn condom on it. You mean a corn dog? Yeah, but I didn't get one when I walked past the first
[1:57] place because I thought there was another one. That's a long story. I know Dan was searching
[2:01] for sangria the entire time and when we split up and went our separate ways, Daniel, I noticed
[2:05] there was a sangria stand steps away from where we had just been standing and where you just left.
[2:10] And it said, no Dan's. It said, Dan McCoy's welcome. Oh, no shit. It was too late.
[2:16] It was the gallon of sangria I had already had that prevented me from seeing the other sangria.
[2:21] Ironic. Yeah. Ironic is what it is. Oh, Henry himself could not have done better.
[2:27] You know what this month is, guys? What's that? Shocktober.
[2:32] You mean we're on channel 11 right now? WPIX, New York's movie station? Yeah.
[2:37] And that's a regional joke. Those who grew up in this region.
[2:41] Halloween host. Stuart is wearing a low cut dress. Sure. It's very revealing.
[2:49] Very tight around the hips. My hair, black wig. Yeah. My wig is all the way down to my bottom.
[2:55] Came up out of a coffin. Yep. I did actually. I'm still kind of covered in webs.
[3:02] Well, Stuart, as our rubber bat on a string, as our haunted host, would you like to introduce
[3:07] tonight's movie? Yeah, it was. Wait, let me check the piece of paper. It was a spooky treat called
[3:14] The Unborn. Wow. That's pretty good. I'm glad you wrote it down. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was really
[3:22] scary. I don't know if I can explain this movie. Sure you can. I think the movie was about like a
[3:29] Jewish demon or something. It started off being about a Jewish spirit, and then it became near
[3:36] the end of the movie, they made a point to say this isn't really a Jewish spirit. Yeah. Well,
[3:40] you got to open it up to all sectors if you want to have a blockbuster success. Well,
[3:45] it's interesting because I came to the realization a long time ago that for
[3:49] most horror movies that are demon related to work, or even bigger ones like Rosemary's Baby
[3:54] or The Exorcist or The Omen, you have to for two hours, you have to say, OK, for this to be scary,
[4:00] I believe in the tenets of a certain kind of Catholic Catholic apocalypticism. Catholic.
[4:07] But like for the next two hours, I believe that the devil is real. I believe that Christ is the
[4:13] Lord. I believe in hell. And I believe Roman Polanski didn't rape a small girl. No, you can
[4:18] still believe that and enjoy Rosemary's Baby. But it was nice to see a movie where. Wait, what?
[4:25] It was nice to see a movie where. Sure, you haven't read the newspapers this week, I assume.
[4:29] What? What about? Wait, Roman Polanski did what? It happened 30 years ago.
[4:36] Whoa. Wait, we're talking about child right now? I thought we were talking about a movie.
[4:40] Let's talk about the movie. Let's get off of this terrible subject that I don't know why it was
[4:44] brought up. OK, yeah, come on. Let's keep it. Let's go back on to I mentioned Rosemary's Baby.
[4:50] You have to bring up the worst possible aspect of it. Anyway, I was just saying it was nice to see
[4:55] a movie where I didn't have to as a Jewish person who doesn't believe in, you know, Christianity and
[5:00] all sorts didn't have to decide like, OK, I'm going to buy into this faith that I don't believe
[5:07] in for two hours to make the movie work for me. This movie didn't necessarily work for me.
[5:11] But the the fact that it started off Jewish and then got to a point where they were like,
[5:16] this is just some kind of crazy demon. It probably predates religion. They said it was like,
[5:20] oh, OK, I don't have to I don't have to kind of fake a belief in hell for this thing to be scary.
[5:26] Yeah, I was just saying that and then Dan took it off into this. Oh, that's what ridiculously
[5:33] over here. And then just you're right. You are trying to figure out what you're going to say
[5:38] next is our horror host. Yeah, I was writing down like spooky lines and crossing them out with a
[5:43] big magic marker on a cue card. I still don't have any. Well, maybe I'll get back to you guys.
[5:51] Well, we can talk about what the movie was about then. OK, so, yeah, you want me to summarize this
[5:57] one? I'm really good at it. Let's let's see what see how what you can do. OK, the movie.
[6:02] The movie begins, right? Right. No, no, no, no. Stewart's correct. So far, the movie did be.
[6:11] OK, so I'm going to argue with that. OK, guys, imagine this movie begins. This chick has his
[6:17] dream where there's like a crazy kid, right? And like a dog with a fucking mask on, that shit's
[6:22] fucking crazy. And then she goes under. It turns out that this was a dream. Like at first, you're
[6:29] like, oh, is she in like a magical world or something like that? OK, so it turns out she's
[6:35] babysitting for this fucking crazy little kid who talks like that kid from the sixth sense,
[6:38] like a grown up or something. And he smashes her face with a mirror. He says Jambi wants to be
[6:43] born. Yeah, Jambi. No, it's Jamba. Jambi. That's right. You're thinking of Jambi from Peewee's
[6:50] Playhouse. Jambi wants to be born. So it's fucking really weird because he totally smashes her in the
[6:53] face with his mirror and like nothing happens. She doesn't even have a mark on her face.
[6:57] OK, so fast forward later on. She keeps having these fucking dreams that there's this fucking
[7:02] little kid in a mirror. And it looks like the little dead kid from like the little dead kid
[7:08] from any horror thing. Yeah, the devil's backbone, but with like an outfit on. It does look like the
[7:12] kid in the devil's back. Yeah. So she's like, we're this kid's going to come and kill her or
[7:16] something. And then she's doing some Scooby-Doo shit and finds out that she used to like she had
[7:23] a twin that died in the womb and that her mom killed herself or something. Her mom went crazy.
[7:27] Yeah, went crazy and killed herself. Her mom in a surprisingly, it seemed Carl Gugino in a cameo,
[7:33] but no, it was Carl Gugino. It was Carl Gugino. Yeah. According to the Internet. I, you know,
[7:39] and so they gave Carl Gugino work, which means I like the movie to a certain extent already.
[7:44] Yeah. So she finds out that this old lady at this old folks home is her grandma and her grandma
[7:50] tells her this crazy story that about the Holocaust. I wasn't paying that much attention.
[7:55] When she heard this old lady, she knows a crazy story about the Holocaust. Let's make it clear
[7:59] that Stuart is not Holocaust denying. That's a crazy story about a Holocaust of some kind.
[8:05] Whatever. This old lady who turns out is her grandmother says she was a child during the
[8:13] Holocaust. She was twins and she had a twin brother and that the Nazis were obsessed with
[8:17] twins and discovering the medical secret genetic secrets of twins, which is true to a certain
[8:22] extent, and that they were obsessed with creating blue eyes and brown eyed kids, which I don't know
[8:27] if it's true. Somehow in the crazy, like Kate Bosworth, obsessed with creating Kate Bosworth.
[8:33] I guess so. Sorry, I totally derailed you. Now I'm thinking about Superman Returns
[8:40] and how terrible it is. So they but somehow they use experiments that are part medical,
[8:46] part occult. And through that. All cop.
[8:51] Through that. Dan, you're a firecracker today. Through that, they somehow bring into
[8:57] this plane of reality a dybbuk, which is or dybbuk, as they keep saying, which is a bodiless
[9:03] spirit in Jewish mysticism. It's, I guess, someone who dies. They don't get into heaven,
[9:08] so they wander the earth, unable to interact with the physical realm. And it's a very horrible
[9:12] punishment in this. The dybbuk can possess a body, possesses her brother's body after it dies
[9:20] from these experiments, comes back. She kills him or he dies in the camps or something like that.
[9:26] She has a daughter. The daughter has twins. One of the twins is going to be this possessed by this
[9:32] dybbuk because Jumbie wants to be born, dies in the womb. And now this thing Jumbie is angry at
[9:38] the family and wants revenge on everyone. So, yeah. Yeah. And that whole deal about not being
[9:44] able to interact with the physical world, that's crazy, man, because like that ghost is making her
[9:50] see all kinds of shit. She's flipping out. Well, it seems like at the end, they're kind
[9:54] of disavowing that it's a dybbuk. Okay. Because, yeah, there's magic all over the place, man.
[10:00] aid of uh... gary oldman who's a rabbi is a rap he's the least
[10:05] jewish rabbi i think i've ever seen in a minute
[10:07] and it's like if they got mister t to play around
[10:11] and then like i think your friends are dying and stuff i'm trying to imagine
[10:14] that the uh... now i can't have a mystery to use the law it would fit on
[10:19] top of the kind of floating above his head because they are
[10:22] would like men to me i was
[10:25] and then they get interest elba
[10:27] who is an episcopal priest all also played basketball obsessed idris elba
[10:32] i'm not yet which means that you're saying you think he's now been as many
[10:36] flophouse movies as nicholas cage i'd like to know the old she was in a lot of
[10:39] them uh... yes you have a bunch
[10:42] just galva i think that no one has been in more than three
[10:45] i think that just galva has been three i think mccain's been three i think it is
[10:49] a is if this podcast is written by david goyer like the movie we watched was
[10:53] tonight
[10:54] we would explain how the number three is important
[10:57] uh... because it's relation to three represent i just read in a book yet
[11:01] three represents the trinity and uh... buddhism it's also blah blah blah blah
[11:05] blah blah yeah i that's that's good writing
[11:08] there's a lot of media dude watching a horror movie needs to find out why the
[11:11] number ten is important in a fucking like exorcism ritual he's just let him
[11:15] know something is it that uh...
[11:17] gary allman says
[11:18] ten is the number of such-and-such is in the such-and-such in the blah blahs
[11:22] all he has to say
[11:23] there's really no reason there has to be
[11:25] ten for this bullshit ceremony but all he has to say is
[11:28] you need ten people that you need ten men to make a minion
[11:30] that's a that's a jewish prayer group you need ten men done ok great and you
[11:34] need some extra bodies around when the demon shows up and starts totally acing
[11:38] them all that's the real reason so someone can get killed that's not our hero so they go
[11:41] back to the decrepit abandoned hospital that her mother died in because i guess
[11:45] just open to the public
[11:46] in the middle of the night
[11:48] uh... is a historical landmark
[11:51] sure it looks like they haven't been the place in seventy years
[11:55] but uh...
[11:56] well this exorcism ceremony one by one everybody's getting killed yep everybody's
[12:00] getting crossed out
[12:01] uh... and gary allman wakes up the demon by blowing this giant bedazzled shofar
[12:07] but it's covered in red sequins it is the gayest most flamboyant shofar
[12:13] i've ever seen and the horn is enormous
[12:15] yeah it looks like he got it off of like some sort of elk
[12:19] so and then the demon shows up and likes big shofars
[12:22] uh... it waxes a couple dudes and then jumps into Idris Elba's body and he runs around
[12:27] like he got the rage virus injected into his uh... bloodstream
[12:32] and then uh... he gets killed and then her boyfriend gets uh... possessed and
[12:36] then
[12:37] somehow she manages to grab the perfect page that allows her to finish the
[12:42] from this book that she looks at it
[12:44] this book fucking explodes
[12:46] earlier in the movie
[12:48] i guess the old lady tells her to get the book of shadows or book of mirrors
[12:52] the book of mirrors
[12:54] and she goes to the library
[12:57] wait she gets the president's book of secrets? no not the last book
[13:02] she goes to the library
[13:03] i'm going to have to become the president
[13:06] i wish that was the plot of that movie
[13:07] national treasure two
[13:10] run for the white house
[13:12] but she goes to the library she types into the regular card catalog computer
[13:17] book of mirrors
[13:18] the entry comes up for this 400 500 year old hebraic tome
[13:24] of kabbalistic secrets with a fucking lock on it and they let her take it
[13:29] to look at in the reference room and she just
[13:31] picks it up and walks out with it
[13:33] and it's ridiculous
[13:34] that book should not be in
[13:36] the digitized catalog and the weirdest thing is when she goes up to talk to gary oldman
[13:40] he's like weird
[13:41] he's running all over the place if you just let that circulate
[13:44] and gary oldman was even like
[13:45] where did you get this like she got it at the fucking library they just had it
[13:49] she didn't even try like she didn't even have to pull in like i don't know all of her
[13:52] credit or her like street fingers well they didn't even need to use an
[13:55] interlibrary loan to get it from you know
[13:58] the yeshiva university library
[14:01] you know i feel like the
[14:03] listener at home's head is spinning
[14:05] because they're possessed by a demon
[14:08] this is the most
[14:09] complex movie and i can just boil it down
[14:12] basically
[14:13] there's a possessing spirit
[14:15] it's been bedeviling this family for like three generations
[14:19] and now it's trying to possess the youngest female member of the family
[14:23] because jumbie wants to be born
[14:26] jumbie jumbo was a famous elephant and the holocaust is thrown in there just to
[14:30] make it more distasteful yeah that was
[14:33] there were there were a lot of genuinely creepy images in this and then
[14:36] they had to throw in the holocaust and it makes everything
[14:39] it makes you angry at them for doing that
[14:42] to remind you of something that's genuinely horrible as opposed to just
[14:45] crappy and
[14:46] tawdry
[14:47] on the other hand uh... gary oldman is in a yarmulke
[14:50] so that was great which is
[14:52] oh no saves the movie certainly
[14:54] there's a there's a great scene makes the movie worthwhile there's a great scene
[14:57] where he shouts at a dog with an upside down head
[15:01] i like that what does he say he's like don't paw the furniture get out of here
[15:06] get out of here
[15:07] and when they're in this like really weird uh...
[15:09] what was that like a theater it looked like an abandoned theater space in his synagogue
[15:13] it was like
[15:14] with like paper flying all over the place
[15:16] there's a lot of paper flying around this movie was big on winds blowing paper around yeah
[15:20] but uh... there were some neat there were some genuinely neat images there were some cool
[15:24] effects like weird mouth effects well we'll get to the final judgment later
[15:29] yeah there's there's a lot of uh...
[15:31] surprise shots of a ghost kid with a giant mouth clawing at people it got to a point
[15:37] where like
[15:38] she there were so many surprise shots of this ghost kid attacking the main hero
[15:43] heroine
[15:44] you got to the point where you're like she must be used to it by now
[15:47] certainly she just does she just takes it in stride that this ghost kid is appearing
[15:50] she would start getting pissed off and the thing is like this ghost kid shows up and
[15:54] just totally starts smoking people like he's like
[15:57] oh you're flying around I'm killing you oh now you fold in half like he's super magic
[16:01] yeah why the fuck did he like beat around the bush this long well that's one of the
[16:04] things about all ghost movies yeah the ghosts don't make themselves clear
[16:10] and why if he has these powers doesn't he go straight for the person he wants to kill
[16:14] as opposed to everyone else yeah why does it wait I mean is it like a hubris or something
[16:19] it doesn't allow us to have one of the greatest car crashes or one of the greatest car hits
[16:23] I've ever seen in a movie
[16:26] her best friend Romy is driving around just bopping to music and suddenly out of nowhere
[16:32] music is played at a very sensible volume yes she's not distracted at all she's driving
[16:39] very well and slowly on a deserted suburban street hands a 10-2 gently nodding her head
[16:44] to the music sure and there's a this is the kid who hit the main character in the face
[16:49] with the mirror earlier has become kind of the dybbuk's main go-to body to possess
[16:54] because if you're going to possess a body why not a small child
[16:57] well why not the least powerful
[17:00] yep it really doesn't make sense why he would go for such an unthreatening figure
[17:05] yeah she's driving and he is he's on his big wheel trike and out of nowhere just zooms
[17:11] in front of the car not even in front of the car he's like riding on the like the heel
[17:15] like the side of the road he seems to be coming at the car almost at a side angle yeah like
[17:20] perpendicular to the road and she looked and like the shot from the windshield makes it
[17:23] look like she's driving right off the road and she and he is hit in such a way that he
[17:29] flips up over the back of the car and when she goes around he's just standing up fine
[17:34] no problem and says something threatening to her but it's just so it comes out of nowhere
[17:38] and looks so silly that it was great you'd probably go under the car i mean he's not
[17:43] he's not he doesn't have very large profile no he would be crushed by the car he's not
[17:48] there's no way that he's tall enough that he the part of the body that needs to be hit
[17:51] for him to flip in the air is is getting i mean it's funny that he flipped up over
[17:55] the car no it made it better certainly but the way that he go the way he comes in on
[17:59] the trike it seems very clear to me that he was he's a computer effect that was kind of
[18:03] added in so it almost looks like they shot this footage of romey driving around and they're
[18:08] like we better scare up this footage oh well we'll just insert the kid you know driving
[18:13] into the car good stuff and um funny enough spoiler alert guys it's that little kid ends
[18:20] up stabbing romey to death with a knife later on yeah and michelle had to live her days
[18:24] out alone yeah no one to go to the high school reunion with it's very sad everybody lives
[18:29] in really big nice houses in this movie yeah they live in a in a some of them live in castles
[18:34] basically yeah houses like a palatial estate i think they're all heiresses it's possible
[18:41] well that's not scary there's a lot of sort of vagueness in this movie like i was never
[18:46] clear on how old our heroine was supposed to be because she comes home at the beginning
[18:51] of the movie uh babysitting babysitting and having an adventure in that yeah and saying
[18:58] hi to her dad before she goes to bed and then in the next few scenes she's going to what
[19:03] appears to be a college class and then like having sex with her boyfriend in her room
[19:08] and just like not even like hiding that at all the dad is not a good dad the dad seems
[19:13] to disappear for most of the film and they don't really have sex you just see her like
[19:16] lying on his naked chest they could have just had handjobs or something but i guess that's
[19:20] sex yeah it's implied that they had sex they just they just they just shared some handjobs
[19:25] they had the menu yes i look in the menu i got a six pack of handjobs i'm not gonna finish
[19:29] it myself do you want to finish it with me how much are the handjobs they look reasonable
[19:34] so but i mean i know guys handjobs still sex okay you know what i mean i mean it's still
[19:39] intimate contact but like i'm just trying to clarify so the viewer's not like oh wait
[19:43] there's a sex scene in this maybe i'll watch no there is not there's nothing but the implication
[19:47] of a sexy let me tell you that you know we are all human men we are three what human
[19:52] males as far as you know healthy human males sure uh varying degrees of health we have
[19:57] to admit that one thing that drew us
[20:00] to this movie, above all other Shocktober options, was the fact that the poster for
[20:06] this film unabashedly featured the lead female backside in very trimmed cotton panties as
[20:17] she looked into the mirror and like there was the horrible kid looking out of her...
[20:22] Jumbo or whatever.
[20:23] Jumbie.
[20:24] Jumbo is a famous elephant.
[20:25] And I was saying, you know, ahead of time, like, oh, you know, this is just a, come on,
[20:30] you know, like...
[20:31] Surely that scene won't appear.
[20:32] It's an exploitation film.
[20:33] Yeah, they're not going to have a scene in the movie where the heroine is in her panties.
[20:37] But it's...
[20:38] It's right there.
[20:39] There's like five.
[20:40] There's like five of them.
[20:41] The woman just keeps going back into the bathroom in her underwear.
[20:43] It's like Boston Translation.
[20:44] Yeah.
[20:45] When she is by herself, the pants go off.
[20:49] And she stares into her bathroom mirror.
[20:51] I heard that.
[20:52] But again, and this is going to sound crass of me.
[20:54] They obviously did some retouching on her unsaid backside in the poster.
[20:59] Yeah.
[21:00] It's noticeably shapelier.
[21:01] Yeah.
[21:02] You were very openly disappointed about her backside in the film.
[21:04] Yeah.
[21:05] I kicked over a table.
[21:06] Yep.
[21:07] I was disappointed.
[21:08] Surely, Elliot...
[21:09] I had to hold you back.
[21:10] You were swearing.
[21:11] Surely, Elliot, there would never be a horror movie poster that promises more than the film
[21:15] delivers.
[21:16] I'm just saying the poster promised a certain amount of shapeliness.
[21:18] You've got Carl Gugino in the film.
[21:21] Right.
[21:22] She could very easily...
[21:23] We all know your love for Carl Gugino.
[21:24] Yeah.
[21:25] She could very easily decide for the main character.
[21:26] All right.
[21:27] Well, maybe Elliot Cailin's The Unborn.
[21:29] You can make it the way you want to make it.
[21:30] Oh, if only.
[21:31] Oh, yeah.
[21:32] Elliot Cailin's The Unborn would be a very different movie.
[21:34] Let's hear about it.
[21:35] Yeah.
[21:36] What's the deal there?
[21:37] Well, for one thing, a whole lot more Jewish stuff.
[21:39] Yeah.
[21:40] Every one of the movies is Jewish.
[21:41] It takes place during Fiddler on the Roof times.
[21:43] Okay.
[21:44] So it's in the shtetl in Russia.
[21:45] Sure.
[21:46] Pale of Settlement.
[21:47] And it's the same basic plot otherwise.
[21:50] Just...
[21:51] And they break out into song every couple of minutes.
[21:53] Same actors though, right?
[21:54] No.
[21:55] Different actors.
[21:56] Topol.
[21:57] Let's see.
[21:58] Who else?
[21:59] Who would play Romi?
[22:00] The rest of the cast of Fiddler on the Roof.
[22:01] That's the best you can do.
[22:02] Well, I don't really have...
[22:03] Topol.
[22:04] Who would play...
[22:05] Other Jewish actors.
[22:06] Who would play Jambi?
[22:07] Jambi.
[22:08] I think I'd get Wallace Shawn probably.
[22:09] Yeah.
[22:10] How much better would the movie have been if it was Wallace Shawn saying, Jambi wants to
[22:11] be born.
[22:12] Yeah.
[22:13] Like that.
[22:14] Spooky.
[22:15] Yeah.
[22:16] Yeah.
[22:17] Yeah.
[22:18] Yeah.
[22:19] Yeah.
[22:20] Yeah.
[22:21] Yeah.
[22:22] Yeah.
[22:23] Yeah.
[22:24] Yeah.
[22:25] Yeah.
[22:26] Yeah.
[22:27] Yeah.
[22:28] Yeah.
[22:29] Yeah.
[22:30] Like that.
[22:31] Speaking of Jambi, is Mekelechahi Mekehaneo Hebrew?
[22:32] I don't believe so.
[22:33] Okay.
[22:34] I don't believe so.
[22:35] There's not a lot of Hebrew genies.
[22:36] No.
[22:37] They tend to be Arab.
[22:38] Conflicting ideologies.
[22:39] But what's...
[22:40] She looks into a lot of mirrors in this.
[22:41] She's always looking into things she shouldn't.
[22:42] And there's a scene where she's in the bathroom of the club she went to.
[22:46] And as Stuart pointed out, she is looking in a mirror again.
[22:50] She knows mirrors are scary.
[22:51] She looks in another one.
[22:53] It scares her.
[22:54] She's throwing up out of fright.
[22:55] And there's very clearly a glory hole in the wall of the urinal.
[22:58] Yeah.
[22:59] It's openly a glory hole.
[23:00] And she starts moving towards it very slowly.
[23:02] Yeah.
[23:03] Putting her eye up to the glory hole.
[23:04] Putting her eye up to it.
[23:05] And you know something scary is going to come out of it.
[23:06] In this case, it's a whole lot of bugs and like shit which are flying at her.
[23:08] Yeah.
[23:09] But she's not even like going to the opposite side of the fucking thing and get closer.
[23:12] Best case scenario, it's going to be a penis coming out of her eye.
[23:15] Yeah.
[23:16] She slides her fucking head along the same wall and like gets as close as possible.
[23:21] And I thought it was refreshing to see a horror film that uses a glory hole for whatever reason.
[23:27] It took me back to my days of using any of the public bathrooms at the NYU campus and
[23:33] realizing that people had made those holes into the dividers.
[23:36] Wow.
[23:37] On a non-glory hole related note, I did want to correct what you said was that you said
[23:42] that she started vomiting because she was sick.
[23:45] She was actually vomiting because she's pregnant with twins, one of which is going to be Jumbo
[23:50] Jr.
[23:51] Jumbo Jr.
[23:52] That's the secret.
[23:53] Jumbo Jr.
[23:54] The best hot dog brand in town, Jumbo Jr. hot dogs.
[23:58] That's the secret surprise shock ending at the end which is told in super flash cut scenes
[24:03] is that she's pregnant with twins, ba-ba-bum, one of them's probably Jumby.
[24:08] And you're supposed to, the audience member, feel stupid for not having seen all the signs
[24:11] rather than like me and not caring.
[24:13] Well, what were the other signs?
[24:15] She had sex.
[24:16] Yeah, sure.
[24:17] That's how it works.
[24:18] That's true.
[24:19] She...
[24:21] But when they show...
[24:22] She kept eating pickles and ice cream together.
[24:24] The image of those fetuses that they're showing are very well-developed.
[24:28] Like she should know.
[24:29] They're saying, they're like, you're pregnant with twins.
[24:32] And the image, they already have fingers.
[24:34] Like one of them winked or something, right?
[24:35] I don't think they...
[24:36] It would have been great if it did.
[24:37] But they already have fingers and faces like she's really far along.
[24:41] Yeah.
[24:42] Like possibly like the fetus turns and winks and it cuts immediately to like a heavy metal
[24:48] like scream and the guitars.
[24:52] You gotta have like a Sammy Hagar scream in there.
[24:56] Yeah.
[24:57] And then the credits, there are graphics of...
[24:58] The unborn flashes.
[24:59] There are graphics, like while the credits are rolling in the middle, maybe on the sides,
[25:02] there are animated graphics of the evil fetus like appearing and looking around and then
[25:06] running off to the side of the screen and then showing up with a guitar.
[25:10] Wearing like a little tuxedo or something?
[25:11] Yes.
[25:12] Wearing a tuxedo and holding a cigar.
[25:15] And Converse shoes.
[25:16] Sure.
[25:18] And Ali...
[25:19] Tails.
[25:20] Tails.
[25:21] Tails, yeah.
[25:22] Of course.
[25:23] Yeah.
[25:24] Like a Barren Samity style figure.
[25:25] So wait, she's giving birth to the New Year?
[25:29] Is that what's going on?
[25:30] Kind of, yeah.
[25:31] Basically, yeah.
[25:32] Baby New Year.
[25:33] But he's also a skeleton face.
[25:35] Yeah.
[25:36] Like Barren Samity.
[25:37] Yeah.
[25:38] Wow.
[25:39] So basically, The Unborn is about unborn babies.
[25:41] It's a pro-abortion.
[25:43] It is a very seriously, I assumed it was about an aborted baby that wanted to live and was
[25:49] coming back for revenge.
[25:50] It is not.
[25:51] Yeah.
[25:52] It is saying you should abort your children.
[25:53] Yeah.
[25:54] Because they will be evil.
[25:55] Yeah.
[25:56] Get rid of them shits.
[25:57] Yeah.
[25:58] You never know.
[25:59] There might be a Dybbuk.
[26:00] There is a Dybbuk inside you, which is not how Dybbuks work, but it still could be.
[26:03] The only other child in this film is a fucking, like a little demon vessel, like all kids.
[26:08] No way.
[26:09] No way.
[26:10] Get rid of them.
[26:11] It's an anti-kids movie.
[26:12] It's pro-kids, which is pro-kids.
[26:13] Yeah.
[26:14] Pro-kids.
[26:15] It's pro-kids.
[26:16] Pro-kid sneakers.
[26:17] Sure.
[26:18] It's pro-roos.
[26:19] Those sneakers that had little pockets in them.
[26:20] Oh, sure.
[26:21] Big enough to put like a penny in.
[26:22] Kids don't have a lot to carry around with them.
[26:23] Nowadays, all those kids wear those Heelys with the wheels.
[26:24] With the wheels.
[26:25] I wish I had those when I was a kid.
[26:26] Yeah.
[26:27] I would have hurt myself so bad on those.
[26:28] They would have been awesome.
[26:29] I dream of children hurting themselves while wearing those.
[26:30] Yeah.
[26:31] Yeah.
[26:32] Yeah.
[26:33] Yeah.
[26:34] Yeah.
[26:35] Yeah.
[26:36] Yeah.
[26:37] Yeah.
[26:38] Yeah.
[26:39] Yeah.
[26:40] Yeah.
[26:41] It's a lot of people wearing those, actually.
[26:42] They're not like sexual dreams or anything.
[26:43] They're just, you know.
[26:44] Well, Freud would say every dream has a sexual element.
[26:45] Oh, interesting.
[26:46] Yeah.
[26:47] But he was a pervert.
[26:48] Should we talk about that more?
[26:49] Sure.
[26:50] Well, Sigmund Freud was one of the great minds of the late 19th, early 20th century.
[26:51] Oh!
[26:52] He was in Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.
[26:53] He was in that, yes.
[26:54] Okay.
[26:55] And also The 7% Solution, where he treats Sherlock Holmes in the most boring way possible.
[26:56] Hey!
[26:57] That's a boring movie.
[26:58] That's a boring movie.
[26:59] It's a good book, though.
[27:00] I've never seen that movie.
[27:01] I've never seen that movie.
[27:02] I've never seen that movie.
[27:03] I've never read the book.
[27:04] I'm sure it's good.
[27:05] The movie is boring.
[27:06] I think Kelsey Grammer would make a good Sigmund Freud.
[27:07] If there was a sitcom about Freud.
[27:08] Yeah.
[27:09] And it was called, like, On the Couch.
[27:10] Dude, let's write that sitcom.
[27:11] I think that would be fun.
[27:12] Because Hank is going to be cancelled.
[27:13] Cancelled.
[27:14] You know, so.
[27:15] And he's going to be free, I bet.
[27:16] Yeah.
[27:17] McHale's Navy 2 is not starting filming for another year.
[27:18] That was up Periscope.
[27:19] Or down Periscope.
[27:20] Yeah.
[27:21] That Periscope movie.
[27:22] McHale's Navy starred a totally...
[27:23] Tom Arnold.
[27:24] Tom Arnold.
[27:25] Tom Arnold.
[27:26] Tom Arnold.
[27:27] Tom Arnold.
[27:28] Tom Arnold.
[27:29] Tom Arnold.
[27:30] Tom Arnold.
[27:34] Tom Arnold, Bruce Campbell, and Tim Curry.
[27:35] Come on!
[27:36] What?
[27:37] Pick your bad Mabel films straight.
[27:38] Come on.
[27:39] And don't even get mixed up with Sergeant Bilko.
[27:40] That was Steve Martin.
[27:41] Playing Phil Silvers.
[27:42] Phil Hartman.
[27:43] The late Phil Hartman in one of his final roles.
[27:44] Wait, Phil Hartman died?
[27:45] I've got to start reading these celebrity newspapers.
[27:46] Yeah, you're right.
[27:47] He died about 12 years ago.
[27:48] These celebrity newspapers that all the celebrities do.
[27:49] Celebrity newspapers called newspapers.
[27:50] I've got to read them.
[27:51] I've got to read them.
[27:52] I've got to read them.
[27:53] I've got to read them.
[27:54] I've got to read them.
[27:55] I've got to read them.
[27:56] I've got to read them.
[27:57] I've got to read them.
[28:29] Yeah.
[28:30] I'm stuck in time.
[28:31] Yeah.
[28:32] Yeah.
[28:33] You're living all of the worst celebrity scandals all at once.
[28:34] That sounds like me.
[28:35] So we go from reading about Roland Plansky to talking to Fatty Arbuckle.
[28:42] To watching John Wilkes Booth kill the President.
[28:44] Wow.
[28:45] What?
[28:46] I don't know if that's a celebrity scandal.
[28:48] He was a celebrity.
[28:49] Yeah, but I...
[28:50] Wait, the President?
[28:51] Oh, so you're saying that it wasn't scandalous?
[28:53] It was not a controversial move to shoot the President in the head?
[28:58] Wow.
[28:59] Dan, in a strangely pro-Lincoln assassination stance.
[29:02] I just don't think that public opinion is the important thing in that case.
[29:03] I wasn't expecting that.
[29:04] It's like I don't even know you anymore.
[29:05] He keeps talking about rape.
[29:06] The death of the President.
[29:08] You better believe John Wilkes Booth's agent was on the phone with him saying, you've ruined
[29:12] your career.
[29:13] We've got to do some serious damage control, babe.
[29:14] Yeah, his name was Mud.
[29:16] Eh?
[29:17] Eh?
[29:18] Eh?
[29:19] Mud was a different person.
[29:20] All right.
[29:21] Who deserved what he got.
[29:22] Okay.
[29:23] So, thanks for taking me through the history books, guys.
[29:26] Yep.
[29:28] It was a kaleidoscopic version of American history.
[29:31] Yep.
[29:32] So, back to the business at hand, you know what I mean?
[29:36] Yep.
[29:37] We're talking about The Unborn, and I think it might be time for Final Judgments, unless
[29:42] we want to talk about glory holes and demons more.
[29:44] Well, no.
[29:45] I don't think so.
[29:46] Okay, so Final Judgments.
[29:47] We did not talk too much about the demon scenes, which were pretty cool.
[29:50] Which were like, with the scary face effects?
[29:52] Yeah, scary faces and bugs everywhere.
[29:53] Yeah.
[29:54] Did they use that editing style with the really ...
[29:58] It's all jittery?
[30:00] and flashy and there's like dudes whose heads turn upside down.
[30:03] I mean, it was better than normal in the movies we've seen.
[30:06] I mean, wait, like compared to what?
[30:08] Like compared to what at the end?
[30:09] Mirrors?
[30:10] Yeah, basically.
[30:11] Well, yeah, that's fair.
[30:12] But that didn't make it good.
[30:13] But mirrors had that great twist ending, so that made everything okay.
[30:17] What?
[30:18] Twist ending at the end of mirrors.
[30:20] You know where he ends up stuck in the mirror world.
[30:22] Wait, what movie was this?
[30:24] This is in mirrors.
[30:25] Which was?
[30:26] Keeper Sutherland.
[30:27] Keeper Sutherland.
[30:28] Wait, in that movie?
[30:29] That happened?
[30:30] Yes.
[30:31] At the end of that, he ends up in a mirror world.
[30:32] He's stuck in the mirror.
[30:33] What are you talking about?
[30:35] It's the twist ending.
[30:37] Get out of here.
[30:38] That didn't happen.
[30:39] And that was a Flophouse classic redux.
[30:41] Hey, okay, so.
[30:43] We're back.
[30:44] We're back.
[30:45] So Final Judgment, is that what we're doing?
[30:46] Yeah, let's do it.
[30:47] Final Judgment.
[30:48] So the special Shocktober categories for Final Judgment is.
[30:53] Uh-oh, that we will forget instantly.
[30:54] You're outdoing me again.
[30:56] Was this movie.
[30:57] Did you do the horror host?
[30:58] I'm terrible at this job.
[30:59] Was this movie totally scarifying, frighteningly funny, or totally snorifying?
[31:07] I put a lot of work into this.
[31:11] Yeah, I'm going to go.
[31:12] You know what?
[31:13] I think I'm going to go frighteningly funny.
[31:16] It was, you know, it was shitty, but there was, you know, there was some white cotton
[31:21] panties, and upside down head demons, and kids on.
[31:24] Sure.
[31:25] Kids getting run over by cars.
[31:27] Yeah, no, there was some laughs to be had.
[31:30] So, yeah, the unborn.
[31:32] Give it a watch, huh?
[31:33] Yeah, I, you know, if I was going to be charitable, I'd say frighteningly funny.
[31:37] I mean, it is a trim 88 minutes.
[31:40] Shorter than the movie 88 minutes.
[31:42] Yeah.
[31:43] By like 80 minutes.
[31:44] But there was also a lot of stuff that just, I don't know, there was just a lot of slow
[31:48] parts.
[31:49] And I was saying during the movie that I hate the trend in modern horror movies to have
[31:54] it be a mystery as well.
[31:56] Like a bunch of scary stuff happens and then our hero or heroine has to track down why
[32:02] all the scary stuff is happening by piecing together the events of the past.
[32:06] Like I would rather there be a situation given and our hero have to deal with that than to
[32:13] try and add some sort of mysterious obfuscation.
[32:18] I don't know if I'm saying that word correctly.
[32:20] Sure.
[32:21] Kind of.
[32:22] It's pronounced obfuscation.
[32:23] Obfuscation.
[32:24] I say, you know, try and spice it up.
[32:26] I think it's enough that like horrible things are happening without the mystery element.
[32:30] Well, you're an old school guy.
[32:32] Yeah.
[32:33] But yeah, I think it's a little snorifying.
[32:35] But there are some frighteningly funny parts.
[32:38] I am going to go with Stuart on this one and say frighteningly funny.
[32:41] Again, it was very short.
[32:43] I actually enjoyed some of the scare scenes, although they were kind of by the numbers.
[32:47] The rest of it is very bad, but there were some funny parts and it's short, like I said.
[32:51] There's a little kid getting hit by a car, Dan.
[32:53] All right.
[32:54] Two against one.
[32:55] That scene is very funny.
[32:56] Frighteningly so.
[32:57] Yeah.
[32:58] Oh, man.
[32:59] So the decision's been made.
[33:01] Judgment has been handed down.
[33:03] Yeah, by the judge gods.
[33:04] Maybe it's just that the last couple movies we've seen have been so bad.
[33:07] This one was a breath of crap air.
[33:10] Sure.
[33:11] Well, I guess you have handed down the law.
[33:13] Yeah.
[33:14] The ape shall not kill ape.
[33:15] Oh, you mean real law.
[33:17] Yeah.
[33:18] Like the Ten Commandments.
[33:20] Sure.
[33:21] Like ape law.
[33:22] Ape shall not kill ape.
[33:23] Shall ape kill human?
[33:25] You're late.
[33:26] I thought about going to ape law school to study ape law for a while.
[33:32] Not as much of a call for it as there once was.
[33:34] No.
[33:35] I deal mostly with ape family law.
[33:37] You know, estate planning, things like that.
[33:40] A lot of ape custody suits.
[33:44] Ape immigration law.
[33:45] Ape intellectual property theft.
[33:47] Wow.
[33:48] Ape intellectual property theft.
[33:51] That was Bobo's stick.
[33:54] You stole it, Coco.
[34:00] This is a surprisingly fertile vein, anyway, you're saying.
[34:04] So, I have in my hand a letter.
[34:07] Oh, really?
[34:09] That's what that is.
[34:11] It's from Colin, last name withheld.
[34:14] And the subject...
[34:15] That's family.
[34:16] It's huge.
[34:18] Here comes Peter Floppentale, and he says...
[34:21] He says, I am a Nigerian prince.
[34:25] Colin, I wish you could see Stuart's face when I read the subject heading.
[34:30] But he says...
[34:31] Have you ever seen Edvard Munch's The Scream?
[34:34] That's pretty much it.
[34:35] Wait, the movie The Scream?
[34:37] No, it's not a movie.
[34:39] Oh, right, that painting.
[34:41] The painting, or inflatable thing that you see in dorms.
[34:45] But this gentleman says, Colin, last name withheld, he says...
[34:48] Hello, fellas.
[34:49] I continue to love the podcast and eagerly await each new episode.
[34:53] Thank you.
[34:54] But I think you've been remiss for the last two years of flop history.
[34:57] What?
[34:58] You've not had a gimmick episode.
[35:00] Everyone remembers the must-see TV night where all the New York-based shows,
[35:03] except Seinfeld, were an electrical blackout.
[35:06] That's right, because Seinfeld is in LA, New York.
[35:09] Why not then an episode where the Flophouse crew take on each other's personalities?
[35:15] Or an episode where your respective Flophouse significant others portray Dan, Stuart, and Elliot?
[35:21] Or an episode of The Flophouse 2020?
[35:24] No?
[35:25] Okay, well, I've been meaning to provide you guys with a link on my somewhat popular movie monologue site.
[35:29] You can view it here at, and he gives the address, which I will post on the blog.
[35:34] Perhaps it will prove helpful in getting the word out in regard to The Flophouse.
[35:38] Now, I don't know if this is a contest entry for the Flophouse floppers to promote us.
[35:43] Through lack of entries, it might be drafted as one.
[35:46] Yeah, but it was nice of him to post our link, and he says some kind words on his website.
[35:54] Yeah.
[35:55] That's very nice.
[35:56] I think about these gimmick episode ideas, though.
[35:58] Yeah, I like future us.
[36:00] Yeah, Flophouse 2020 sounds pretty cool.
[36:02] Wait, that's a couple of years from now.
[36:04] Oh, or is it that one of us is Hugh Downs and one of us is Barbara Walters?
[36:08] Oh, I like that.
[36:09] And we're talking about stories you wouldn't see in the mainstream, in the nightly news, but that you should know about.
[36:14] Yeah, I think that sounds pretty good.
[36:16] I couldn't think of something that our significant others would be less interested in than doing a bad movie.
[36:22] I was thinking the same thing.
[36:23] They'd probably get bored.
[36:25] Yeah.
[36:26] They would be.
[36:27] They're talking about lady stuff.
[36:28] Yep.
[36:29] They'd probably talk about dirty dancing or something.
[36:30] Sure, like a cute boy they saw one time.
[36:33] That's what girls talk about.
[36:34] Yeah, or like that bump it thing they saw on TV.
[36:37] He was wearing a white dress.
[36:38] He was carrying a white parasol.
[36:40] I didn't see him for a minute.
[36:42] He didn't see me at all.
[36:44] But I bet a month hasn't gone by since.
[36:46] I haven't thought of that boy.
[36:47] That's right.
[36:48] That's what women are like.
[36:49] They're like Bernstein from Citizen Kane.
[36:51] They're just like Everett Sloan in Citizen Kane.
[36:53] What was the other one?
[36:54] It was 2020, significant others.
[36:55] Oh, we take each other's personality.
[36:57] Yeah, I think that that would just devolve into insulting each other.
[37:00] Probably.
[37:01] I'd be like Stewart and I'd be like, hey, dude, I've got a big penis.
[37:06] Elliot would be like, I'm Dan, stay on topic.
[37:10] I don't know.
[37:11] We'd get angry at each other.
[37:13] Probably.
[37:14] Fuck you, Dan.
[37:15] Although it does make me wish that we could start an episode saying, listeners note,
[37:20] before this episode, Dan, Stewart, and Elliot accidentally touched a magic skull
[37:24] and their personalities were transferred.
[37:27] They all beat up a gypsy woman before this podcast.
[37:30] She transferred from their brains into each other's brains.
[37:34] It was really weird, dudes.
[37:36] Then everything got cured.
[37:37] Now to the vlog house.
[37:38] It was kind of like how I wanted that show.
[37:40] You know that show Life on Mars that they redid over here in the old United States?
[37:44] In the colonies.
[37:45] I was always hoping that the opening bit of the open credits would show,
[37:50] have a song and have them like,
[37:52] and then he insulted a gypsy and she totally sent him into the past.
[37:58] That would be way better because then it would summarize everything.
[38:00] I'd be more interested.
[38:01] I just wanted the last episode of him to wake up and be like, it was all a dream on Mars,
[38:06] and it turns out he's actually an astronaut on Mars.
[38:09] Dude, that was totally the ending to the U.S. version.
[38:13] I didn't watch it, but I heard all these people complaining online about how crazy the ending
[38:18] to the U.S. version of Life on Mars was, and the ending was, you know, he wakes up.
[38:24] Spoiler alert.
[38:26] Spoiler alert to the show.
[38:27] Nobody watched, and that's why it's off the air.
[38:29] He's been in suspended animation as an astronaut,
[38:33] and he got to choose a vivid dream to keep his mind occupied while he was in suspended animation,
[38:40] and so he chose to be a cop.
[38:42] That is great.
[38:43] That is such a stupid, terribly unsatisfying great ending.
[38:49] That's like the end of Open Your Eyes.
[38:51] That's really dumb.
[38:53] By the way, there were no hints for this, but your brain is alive in a jar somewhere.
[38:58] Yeah, that sounds great.
[39:00] He was an astronaut.
[39:02] Because you know the network executives were like, well, when does Mars come into it?
[39:06] I don't understand.
[39:07] He's never going into outer space.
[39:09] David Bowie?
[39:11] That's what they said.
[39:13] That's exactly what they said.
[39:15] So that sounds great.
[39:17] I'm glad I brought up Life on Mars.
[39:20] Life on Mars.
[39:23] Oh, this is the part of the show you're looking at me for directions.
[39:27] Well, horror host, maybe you should host something.
[39:29] Okay, okay, boils and ghouls.
[39:32] I hope you're ready for some scary movie recommendations as it is Shocktober,
[39:37] so we're going to recommend some movies we actually like and may or may not have seen recently,
[39:42] starting with Elliot.
[39:44] Me?
[39:46] Yes, Elliot.
[39:47] Tell us a scary movie you liked.
[39:49] I'm going to mention two movies.
[39:51] Are they both scary?
[39:52] One is and one is not.
[39:54] Start with the scary one.
[39:57] Wow, he's really taking control.
[40:00] I love your horror host character went from Elvira to Saw to Jigsaw like do it
[40:07] Hey boys and ghouls. You've got it. You've got a decision to make
[40:11] Let's play a little game. Tell me two movies. One of them better be scary the thing
[40:16] I haven't seen any scary movies recently that I
[40:19] Really loved and I'm trying to think of one that I haven't recommended in the past
[40:24] I want to recommend but like I was ones I want to recommend
[40:27] I think I've recommended before like persona or in the mouth of madness or those are my favorite
[40:32] What about ghostbusters?
[40:35] Ghostbusters is not a scary movie, but I will mention that it is I was a kid
[40:39] It was really it is the 25th anniversary of Ghostbusters and I've been celebrating it all year. So
[40:44] But the movie I want so there's a bunch of scary movies out there. You can go see him
[40:48] Okay, persona scariest movie I ever saw in the mouth of madness my favorite John Carpenter movie personally
[40:53] But recently I saw a movie called his kind of woman starring Robert Mitchum and Jane Russell and
[40:59] Vincent Price and it is a movie that starts out as a film noir and then becomes kind of a
[41:05] Tongue-in-cheek film noir and then by the end is just out-and-out
[41:09] Comedy with some surprisingly violent scenes
[41:13] Like it's one of the few it's from
[41:15] 1951 I think but there's a scene where a guy gets shot in the chest and blood drips out of his chest and it's just
[41:21] Like but it was one of the more graphic scenes. I've seen in all movie, but it's a lot of fun
[41:25] Robert Mitchum's in it and Vincent Price has one of I think his best roles ever as a ham actor named Mark Cardigan who?
[41:34] is is in this resort that Robert Mitchum has been sent to by a famous crime Lord and
[41:41] basically decides to
[41:43] become a hero in it and there are these great scenes of Vincent Price like giving speeches to the other characters and
[41:49] Basically hamming it up and being really but his performance becomes very affecting so I recommend it a lot Daniel
[41:56] I'm having a hard time coming up with a good horror movie
[42:00] But I did see fairly recently
[42:03] The movie splinter about like oh they about the Ninja Turtles mentor. Sure now about a little pick
[42:11] Biopics are scary because they're true
[42:14] No, it's about like a weird sort of
[42:18] virus like most
[42:20] Movies are most horror movies are these days. It seems like but like more of a kind of this strange fungus that creates
[42:27] Splinters on people that can shoot out and sort of infect them and they come all pointy and weird
[42:34] Porcupine they should have called it the pointy people pretty gross and
[42:38] Have you seen it sort splinter? Yeah. Yeah, it was pretty gross. It's a pretty good like
[42:43] Basically three people stuck in a enclosed space
[42:47] horror movie survival horror, they're all in a
[42:51] gas station
[42:53] maternity ward or
[42:55] and they have to fend off these people and figure out how to get out of there, but
[43:00] What I'm going to also recommend is on Netflix watch instantly. I noticed that the movie
[43:08] I'll believe you
[43:10] Aka first time caller is available on watch instantly and this is a film
[43:17] that
[43:18] along with
[43:20] Roles by Patrick warburton Fred Willard at Helms and Chris Elliott. It also has some former flop house co-hosts in it
[43:29] This is like a most glittering stars. Yeah, this is a small independent comedy
[43:33] It sat on the shelf for a few years then it got a very small like release and now it's on DVD
[43:39] But one Rich Duncan
[43:42] the co-writer of the werewolf book and
[43:46] often a frequent co-host plays Craig the engineer and
[43:51] Amanda Melson and Bob Powers both play radio callers. Oh, wow. It's not a great comedy
[43:57] You know
[43:57] it has the problem that a lot of like small comedies have which
[44:00] It kind of drags a little like they don't have I mean
[44:04] I mean, I feel like you can make a great movie obviously as an independent filmmaker
[44:07] but nope
[44:09] keeping up the energy sometimes on like a low-budget film is
[44:14] Harder without like the resources really like make it snap and so there's like some draggy parts in the middle
[44:21] But there's some really funny stuff in it, too
[44:23] And if you're ever curious to see what Rich Duncan looked like
[44:27] With more hair than he has now you can watch first time caller. I gotta see that. Okay, I'll believe you
[44:33] I gotta check that out. I like those people. Yeah, I don't actually have a good horror movie
[44:38] You were the one who wanted the scary movies. Well, I know I do I'll talk about a scary movie. I
[44:44] Yeah, this time of year always makes me go even more out of my way to watch shitty horror movies and this week was no different
[44:51] I read I rewatched Edward Furlong's masterpiece
[44:55] Because he's in its brain scan where he plays a dude with
[45:01] Who gets sucked into a video game that turns him into a killer?
[45:04] And it's very clearly an attempt to create a new franchise
[45:08] With this like like weird dude character who like kind of haunts him and helps possess him and stuff
[45:15] Similar to Wes Craven's shocker, which was not what I was expecting
[45:19] I like the lawnmower man similar to the lawnmower man
[45:22] But not based on or D Snyder's strange land or like D Snyder strange
[45:26] I like to think that Eddie Furlong's ancestors were Vikings and they killed some sort of a haired serpent and
[45:33] So he was like Bjorn killer of the long fur and that over time became furlong sure
[45:40] Could just be the measure of
[45:43] Elaborate fantasy as to the derivation of Eddie Furlong. I have less and I saw teaching a lot when I was a kid
[45:49] Yeah, I read that story on your that that blog you write about Eddie Furlong. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah furlongs and furlongs
[45:56] Yeah, where you have you have some slash Vic about the various characters. He's been yeah
[46:00] Well, there's a little bit about him and the guy who was on salute your shorts
[46:03] Who was also in Terminator 2 a little blood him Arnold Schwarzenegger a little about him on Robert Patrick
[46:08] You're kind of teaching him what it's like to be human. Exactly. Yeah
[46:12] I have no emotions. Well, let me try. Let's try this then. Yeah, there's a lot of subtext in those movies
[46:17] You can really oh, yeah, I've been to that thumbs up at the end. I know there's a lot of pecker fanfiction on there
[46:24] What happened to the character after the film was over, you know, sure a lot of
[46:29] Baltimore's all like body
[46:31] Crow for was it I don't remember which one for a lot of Eddie Furlong John Waters slash cemetery, too
[46:38] Yes, yeah, one of my favorite favorite movies of all
[46:44] So what and what else besides brain scan
[46:47] Yeah, I can't I can't think anything else. So I've saw brain scan this week. I saw I watched a bunch of shit
[46:53] I watched you know, I watched head of the family again. That was great. Do you own that? No, I don't
[46:58] Not yet
[47:00] Not until they come out with a blu-ray edition. All right guys
[47:03] Now you're just chatting. Not every movie gets a blu-ray edition. Apparently only screwballs gets one. Yep
[47:09] Okay, so what now? What do we do Dan now? We sign off. Oh cool. Why don't you do it Stewart?
[47:14] Why don't you kick us off since you're our okay guys. Well hose
[47:18] For the flop house. I've been
[47:22] Like a like Bewart Wellington
[47:25] Smelly down
[47:28] I've been
[47:30] Sandman come back to me later
[47:33] Okay. Okay. That's not that good. But that's cool. Helly it kill him. Oh, he's been doing this whole time
[47:40] I've been thinking about that. Yeah, okay. That's why I've been so lackluster this episode. Good night folks
[47:47] You should be glad it wasn't chowder fest chowder all his beard
[47:55] By the way chowder fest is coming up
[47:57] Guys, what are your plans for chowder fest?
[47:59] Check check chowders check chowder fest chowder fest too many chowder heads malicious chowder
[48:06] Miskatonic misc misc. It's not a university a tonic University. I got my
[48:11] undergraduate there
[48:15] Yep in elder care in feline masturbation. All right, and that's over don't know why that went there
[48:23] Don't worry, that'll just be at the end after
[48:26] All right, that'll be our stinger
[48:31] That's what I used to call it on a mystery science theater, I think watch out for snakes

Description

0:00 - 0:34 - Introduction and SPOOKY theme0:35 - 2:27 - The usual off-topic nonsense up front.2:28 - 30:44- Finally, the pro-abortion, anti-holocaust, Jewish demon horror story you've been waiting for! The Unborn.30:45 - 34:04- Final judgments 34:05 - 39:29 - Movie Mailbag39:30 - 47:11 - A special SHOCKTOBER sad bastards recommend.  47:12 - 48:37 - Goodbyes, theme and outtakes.

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