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The Flop House: Episode #49 - Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun-Li
Transcript
Dan McCoy
[0:00]
This week we take on a movie made for anyone who ever played a video game
[0:03]
and thought to themselves, I wonder what her story is?
[0:08]
Street Fighter, The Legend of Chun-Li.
[0:30]
Street Fighter, The Legend of Chun-Li.
Stuart Wellington
[1:00]
Were you an Irish baby born in Thailand?
Elliott Kalan
[1:02]
Yeah, I was an Irish baby.
[1:04]
My parents were missionaries who died when I was a baby, but I still have an Irish accent.
Dan McCoy
[1:07]
You retain elements of your Irish accent.
Elliott Kalan
[1:09]
Yeah, and I became a well-known thief on the streets of Thailand stealing baskets of fish.
Dan McCoy
[1:14]
Sure.
[1:15]
We saw a film that had the exact same plot.
[1:18]
Yeah, well, that was the backstory.
[1:20]
That was like the plot of the movie?
[1:22]
The plot of...
[1:24]
It was a backstory for the main bad guy.
Elliott Kalan
[1:26]
Yeah, well, I mean, he was loosely based on me.
[1:28]
I'm not a villain.
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And he's older than me.
Dan McCoy
[1:32]
It was also based on the popular...
Stuart Wellington
[1:35]
Everything else, though, is exactly the same.
[1:38]
You have taken your conscience and inserted it into a baby.
Elliott Kalan
[1:43]
Yes, yeah.
[1:43]
But in this case, that was just to keep it safe.
Dan McCoy
[1:46]
Yeah, of course.
[1:47]
That character was also based on the Hanson song, M'Bison.
[1:51]
The popular Hanson song.
[1:53]
That was fucking terrible.
Elliott Kalan
[1:55]
Well, we watched Street Fighter, The Legend of Chun-Li, in case you were wondering.
[1:59]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[2:01]
So, it's based on the popular...
[2:03]
It is, and the word legend is very loosely used.
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Series.
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Street Fighter.
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Yeah, I mean, doesn't...
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Street Fighter 2.
Elliott Kalan
[2:10]
We all remember Street Fighter 2, Street Fighter 2 Turbo Edition, Super Street Fighter 2.
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Turbo Remix.
[2:16]
Street Fighter 2.1.
[2:17]
Yeah.
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Beta.
[2:19]
Uh-huh.
Stuart Wellington
[2:20]
Street Fighter XP.
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Yeah.
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Those are...
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You play those in arcades down in Chinatown, right?
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Against kids who are really good.
Elliott Kalan
[2:26]
I mean, I didn't play them in Chinatown.
[2:27]
Oh, you mean now?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Well, I'm a tourney guy.
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I go for the tourneys.
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Sure.
Stuart Wellington
[2:33]
Who's your guy?
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Which guy do you like to play with?
Elliott Kalan
[2:36]
Well, it depends on how I'm feeling that day.
[2:38]
Sure.
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If I'm feeling a character who's a little lighter on his feet, I'll go with Vega, because
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he's got a Spanish gay thing that's very Almodovar.
[2:45]
Sure.
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But, you know, if I wanted more characters who's more of a bruiser, I'll go with Blanca.
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Uh-huh.
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His electricity attack is good for keeping the kid I'm playing against off balance.
Stuart Wellington
[2:54]
And he has really cool chest hair.
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Yeah.
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And he's green.
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And you like to make the sound effects when he wins.
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You like to make that same sound effect.
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Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[3:01]
I like that the other characters are vaguely human, where he's, you know, just some kind
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of beast.
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Yeah, some kind of an animal.
Dan McCoy
[3:07]
Like, why would they let him into the World Warriors Tournament?
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I'm just surprised he's wearing pants.
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Well, guys, to set this up for not nerds, which makes us feel like a lot of
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It's up as much as 5% of our audience.
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You are overestimating.
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Street Fighter 2, of course, was a member of the popular genre of video game known as
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the fighting game.
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The side-scrolling fighter.
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Yeah.
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Fighting games, of course, known for their plots.
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For a sprite-based fighting game.
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Yeah, which make it the best thing to adapt into a film, a feature film.
Stuart Wellington
[3:35]
I mean, you know, sometimes...
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You're being a little sarcastic, Dan.
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I think I detected some sarcasm.
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That might not be coming through to the audience.
Dan McCoy
[3:43]
The literary term would be irony.
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Sure.
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That's what I'm doing.
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Sure.
Stuart Wellington
[3:48]
Well, you know, the movie Mortal Kombat was really good.
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I had high hopes going into this one, to be honest with you all.
Elliott Kalan
[3:59]
Since Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter were the two big games.
[4:02]
Like, kids would divide up whether they were a Street Fighter person or a Mortal Kombat person.
Stuart Wellington
[4:05]
Yeah, and there were, like, dance battles between the groups of kids.
Dan McCoy
[4:08]
Yeah, yeah.
[4:09]
Sure.
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Wrap-offs.
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Wrap-offs.
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Wrap-offs.
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Based on the content of the game.
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Slam-offs.
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Just trying to...
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Dozens fights.
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You know, things that happened in the 90s is what I'm sure I'm thinking about.
Elliott Kalan
[4:21]
Oh, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Bosnia.
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Lewinsky trial.
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MC Hammer.
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MC Hammer.
Stuart Wellington
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Jurassic Park.
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Yeah, all these things.
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So, yeah, so this movie's based on...
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It's based on Street Fighter.
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Yeah.
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But not really.
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Yeah, no.
Dan McCoy
[4:41]
Because it's based on a character.
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Well, a couple of characters, but primarily one character from Street Fighter.
Elliott Kalan
[4:47]
Well, it is a movie where they have written a story and they have given some of the characters
[4:50]
in the story the names of Street Fighter characters.
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That's what it comes down to.
Dan McCoy
[4:54]
And in one case, the glove of a Street Fighter character.
Elliott Kalan
[4:57]
Yeah, and the Haruken fireball power.
Dan McCoy
[5:00]
Yeah.
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Sure.
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So, I don't know.
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Let's...
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I feel like we've probably already confused everyone.
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So, let's start with a synopsis.
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Okay.
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Shouldn't we?
Elliott Kalan
[5:10]
Yeah, that's fine.
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Can we start with Thanatopsis?
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The classic American poem by William Cullen Bryant?
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No.
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Okay.
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Well, then let's do a synopsis then.
Dan McCoy
[5:22]
I would take a stab at it because I feel like this always goes to Elliot, but I was sort
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of sick today, so my brain is a little hazy.
Elliott Kalan
[5:29]
12 minutes into the movie, you got up and made popcorn for a while.
[5:33]
Yeah.
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For about another 12 minutes.
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Here, let me take the reins here.
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You take it this time.
Stuart Wellington
[5:38]
So, there's this little girl who's like half Chinese and half, I guess, English?
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I don't know.
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Something.
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Yeah.
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And she and her dad are in Thailand.
Dan McCoy
[5:46]
Played by...
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Well, not played yet.
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No, they're in Hong Kong.
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But eventually, she'll be played by Kristen Crook, also a mixed race actress.
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Who doesn't look it, though.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[5:57]
So, they're in Hong Kong, you said?
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Yeah.
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And he's like teaching her Kung Fu and she loves her dad.
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And then a bunch of ninjas show up and Michael Clark Duncan show up and start beating up her
[6:08]
dad.
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And then Neil McDonough, who in this movie is playing a character named M. Bison.
Elliott Kalan
[6:15]
How many other Flophouse movies has he been in?
[6:17]
Because he was in 88 minutes as the imprisoned killer.
[6:21]
Oh, yeah.
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Right?
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And I think at least one other one.
Dan McCoy
[6:24]
Flophouse listeners may remember him as being the guy with the transparent eyes.
[6:29]
He has the clearest blue eyes.
Elliott Kalan
[6:32]
You can get lost in them.
[6:33]
He looks like he's addicted to the spice from Dune.
Dan McCoy
[6:35]
Yeah, but they're not like...
[6:36]
Absolutely.
[6:37]
But they're not like Paul Newman, like blue eyes, where you're like, oh, what a handsome man.
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It's like, you know, this man has no soul.
[6:44]
Yeah.
[6:44]
And it's reflected by the fact that his eyes have no color.
Stuart Wellington
[6:47]
Yeah.
[6:48]
And in this movie, I think like his character didn't...
[6:51]
Whoa, whoa, I'm getting ahead of myself.
[6:52]
Whoa, let's just say.
Dan McCoy
[6:53]
So this like...
Stuart Wellington
[6:54]
They kidnap the dad.
[6:55]
Yeah, this evil dude takes her dad.
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And then I guess they just let her live in this giant house.
[7:01]
Well, the family's still rich.
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I guess they're still wealthy, yeah.
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And she's a piano prodigy.
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She's a piano prodigy.
[7:07]
And her mom...
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Which figures into the movie exactly none.
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Well, she's Asian, so...
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Her mom is dying of cancer or something.
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She dies, and then she grows up.
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And then she like...
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She dies, and then she grows up?
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No, no.
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Her mom dies in Chun-Li.
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And Chun-Li, you know that.
[7:21]
Okay, sorry.
[7:22]
Main character.
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She...
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So she's...
[7:24]
Don't be so literal, James.
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She goes like, wandering around looking for her dad or something.
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And then she runs afoul of these bad guys.
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And then she meets this weird ancient, like, trainer or something.
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Basically a sensei.
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Named Gan.
[7:38]
Yeah, named Gan.
Dan McCoy
[7:39]
He's just wandering the streets waiting for someone to train.
[7:42]
Yeah, he keeps popping up.
Elliott Kalan
[7:43]
And he's got a spider web tattooed on his hand.
[7:45]
Yep.
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He used to be part of the big crime organization that M. Bison, Neil McDonough, runs, called
[7:51]
Shadloo.
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What is it?
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Shadloo.
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Shadloo.
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And...
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But isn't like the...
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But he changed his ways.
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Now he protects the people of the slums of Bangkok.
Dan McCoy
[8:01]
But also, isn't the shell corporation for the bad guys named the Esperanto Corporation?
Elliott Kalan
[8:07]
Neil McDonough also runs the Esperanto Corporation and Esperanto Securities, which is a huge size
[8:12]
paper.
Dan McCoy
[8:13]
Named after the popular, failed, made-up language that was meant to bring us all together.
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And it never happened.
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It's a good cover.
[8:20]
It's a good cover.
Elliott Kalan
[8:20]
It is one of the two most successful man-made languages.
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One with Klingon?
[8:25]
Yes.
[8:25]
Is that the other one?
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Those are the most successful artificial languages.
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Sure.
[8:30]
So, let's get back to the tale.
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Okay.
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Legend.
Stuart Wellington
[8:33]
Now, so Chun-Li starts saying, you haven't even introduced Chris Klein or Money Blood Glow.
[8:42]
So, okay, let's...
[8:45]
While Chun-Li...
[8:46]
He has to find his place in the scroll, the ancient scroll he's been reading this off of.
[8:49]
I've got my scroll laid out now.
[8:51]
Chun-Li's being trained by...
[8:52]
Yeah, Chun-Li's being trained by this ancient master.
[8:55]
While that's happening, Chris Klein, who is doing his best Jason Lee impression, has like a hard-boiled Interpol agent cop guy who is always wearing like V-neck T-shirts and rolled-up sleeve.
Elliott Kalan
[9:09]
It's kind of like a part Bruce Campbell would play if Bruce Campbell was really greasy.
[9:14]
Yeah.
[9:14]
And had no charisma.
Stuart Wellington
[9:16]
And he is partnered up with Moon Bloodgood.
[9:22]
That's the actress's name.
[9:23]
That's not the character.
[9:25]
The character's name I don't remember.
Dan McCoy
[9:26]
It's also not the name of a fictional werewolf.
Stuart Wellington
[9:28]
It's a real name.
[9:29]
And she is apparently some kind of slutty cop.
Elliott Kalan
[9:33]
I don't...
[9:33]
She's part of...
[9:34]
Well, here's the...
[9:35]
It's the weird thing is she's part of the Bangkok homicide division.
[9:39]
Sure.
[9:39]
But she doesn't look really very Asian either.
[9:42]
And she's always walking around in really low-cut tank tops and things.
[9:46]
Yeah.
[9:46]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[9:47]
Well, but she's...
[9:48]
I mean, I thought she was part of Interpol.
[9:49]
Isn't that what Chris...
[9:50]
I don't think so.
[9:51]
I thought...
Elliott Kalan
[9:51]
Well, Chris Klein is working with homicide.
Stuart Wellington
[9:54]
Yeah, she shows up with like SWAT guys at one point.
[9:56]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[9:57]
She's part of that thing.
[9:59]
But she's local.
[10:00]
So there are like...
[10:02]
We've got to talk about the races...
[10:04]
Crime solvers.
[10:04]
About the races of the people who play the characters.
Stuart Wellington
[10:06]
So they're like the...
[10:07]
They're like, you know, they're like our police characters effectively.
[10:10]
And they got a lot of really witty banter.
[10:14]
The kind of banter that you have no idea what the fuck they're talking about most of the time.
[10:17]
But they just say everything with a smirk on their face.
Dan McCoy
[10:20]
Yeah, you know it's a joke basically by the delivery, not by the content.
Stuart Wellington
[10:23]
Yeah.
[10:24]
And eventually...
[10:25]
I gotta say...
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Chun-Li...
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Chun-Li starts doing some shit to try and beat up.
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That's accurate.
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Eventually, she does.
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She starts going after like the Bison's company.
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And then somehow she crosses path with the cops.
[10:43]
And then...
Elliott Kalan
[10:43]
Something...
[10:44]
M. Bison's company is trying to take over the waterfront slums of Thailand...
[10:49]
Of Bangkok.
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And then that subplot is dropped.
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Who cares?
[10:54]
Sure.
[10:54]
And something called the White Rose.
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Is being brought into Bangkok that M. Bison really wants badly.
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And no one knows what it is.
[11:02]
It must be some kind of super weapon.
[11:03]
Yeah.
[11:04]
It must be something amazing that they have to take from it.
[11:05]
Or Liz Taylor's new scent, perhaps.
[11:08]
Yeah.
[11:08]
These have always brought me luck.
[11:11]
But the...
[11:12]
Sorry.
[11:13]
So they decide they need this White Rose thing.
[11:15]
And Chun-Li is trying to take down M. Bison's.
[11:16]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[11:16]
Chun-Li tries to like find it.
[11:18]
And then she ends up getting captured by Bison.
Elliott Kalan
[11:20]
She seduces one of M. Bison's, I guess, female lieutenants.
[11:23]
Yes.
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And then they have a fight scene in a bathroom.
[11:25]
Yeah.
[11:25]
Well, no.
[11:26]
We'll get into that scene in more depth.
[11:27]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[11:27]
A painfully erotic battle scene.
[11:29]
That's it.
Stuart Wellington
[11:29]
So she eventually gets captured.
[11:33]
She meets her captive father who's been alive all these years.
[11:37]
And then her dad gets killed.
Elliott Kalan
[11:39]
And Bison snaps his neck.
[11:41]
Yeah.
[11:41]
Right in front of her.
[11:42]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[11:42]
And then...
[11:43]
That only serves to enrage her.
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He's like, okay, like, whatever.
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You suck.
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And he leaves.
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Like, there's no way you can stop me.
[11:49]
And he leaves.
[11:50]
And then, of course, his two henchmen let her escape after she beats them up.
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And then she runs through the streets.
[11:56]
And then she gets shot.
[11:57]
And then she gets saved.
[11:58]
She gets shot.
Elliott Kalan
[11:59]
And then she's being chased by the two clumsiest henchmen in the world.
[12:03]
They're running through these crowded Bangkok streets.
[12:06]
Not like...
[12:06]
But they'll be knocking over fruit stalls and things.
[12:09]
But there's plenty of room to run around the fruit stalls.
Dan McCoy
[12:12]
There's one scene where a guy was literally, like, shooting over a bunch of greenery.
[12:18]
Like, there was, like, a foot clearance.
[12:19]
But then he felt like, oh, God.
[12:21]
And he had to push the greenery over.
Elliott Kalan
[12:23]
It's messing up my vision.
[12:24]
They could very quickly catch her.
[12:27]
But they have to slow down and push over all these stalls.
[12:30]
And then when the villains are almost at her, the townspeople rear up and throw fruit at them.
[12:35]
And they run away.
Stuart Wellington
[12:37]
Yeah.
[12:37]
You know, I think maybe those guys, just, like, one of their tasks for later on in the day,
[12:41]
they went into their Microsoft Outlook and were like, task pushover fruit stalls.
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Like, ah, well, we've got to do this.
[12:47]
And we've got to do that later.
[12:48]
Why don't we just...
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We're here.
[12:50]
Let's get this out of the way.
[12:51]
Knock some fruit over on the ground.
[12:54]
So, yeah.
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So, she gets shot.
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And then her sensei shows up.
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Who she thought was dead because his house blew up.
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Yeah, he got hit by a missile launcher or something.
[13:04]
And he shows up.
[13:05]
And he uses magic to heal her bullet wound.
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And then they hang out for a bit.
[13:11]
And then somehow they split up again.
[13:13]
And then she goes and finds the cops who...
[13:16]
Who have seen her once.
Elliott Kalan
[13:18]
And she doesn't know their names.
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But she finds Chris Klein and says, I need backup.
Stuart Wellington
[13:22]
Yeah.
[13:23]
And I don't know how she doesn't know his name.
[13:24]
Because he's constantly saying, Nash out.
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I'm Nash.
[13:29]
Me, Nash.
[13:30]
It's Nash.
[13:31]
Yeah.
[13:31]
Bring men in.
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And people are just shouting Nash.
[13:34]
It's really weird.
[13:36]
Nash, goodbye for well, amen.
[13:38]
Nash.
[13:39]
Yeah.
[13:41]
So, they end up...
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There's a showdown at the...
[13:44]
At the wharf.
[13:46]
Yeah.
[13:47]
And they realize...
[13:48]
At the lieutenant wharf.
[13:49]
Yeah.
[13:49]
And some people get...
[13:50]
Some bad guys get killed.
[13:52]
And then they find out that the White Rose was Bison's daughter all along.
Elliott Kalan
[14:00]
Bison's daughter who, when he was a young man who grew up on the streets of Thailand as a fish thief,
[14:06]
who, he needed to...
[14:08]
This makes no sense.
[14:10]
But he took his wife, his pregnant wife, to a cave because he needed to appease the dark gods to get rid of his conscience,
[14:16]
which I guess was holding him back in the crime game.
[14:18]
Like, he could be advancing, but the conscience was getting in the way.
[14:21]
So, he plunges his hands into her pregnant belly, and it's much less exciting than it sounds,
[14:26]
and puts his conscience in his infant daughter.
[14:30]
Yeah.
[14:31]
And that's the White Rose that he wants to get, because he seems to have lost track of her at some point.
Dan McCoy
[14:35]
And I've always been under the impression that if a person wants to get rid of their conscience,
[14:40]
they're basically almost there already.
[14:42]
Like, you know, if you're the kind of person who's interested in divesting yourself of your conscience,
[14:47]
you can basically just decide not to care about things,
[14:50]
and just do it that way, rather than mystically putting your conscience in an unborn child.
Stuart Wellington
[14:55]
Yeah, I mean, at that point, if you've already made the decision that you're going to, like,
[14:58]
stab your pregnant wife in the belly with your hands,
[15:01]
I think you're probably okay.
[15:03]
Like, you've probably got a pretty good control over that conscience.
[15:05]
You're pretty evil.
Dan McCoy
[15:06]
Maybe that's the twist.
[15:07]
Maybe it's like Dumbo's feather.
[15:09]
Like, the power was already in him.
[15:11]
Yeah, that's...
Stuart Wellington
[15:11]
It's very uplifting and inspiring.
[15:14]
Yeah.
[15:15]
That's the message of Street Fighter.
[15:17]
So, Bison takes his daughter conscience to his house,
[15:22]
and all our good guys end up showing up at some point,
[15:25]
and there's some battling, and...
[15:27]
A fight to the finish.
[15:28]
Yeah, there's a fight to the finish,
[15:29]
and Bison ends up getting his head, like, snapped, like...
[15:33]
Turned around.
[15:34]
...twisted all the way around.
[15:35]
And then, you know, everybody's okay at the end.
Dan McCoy
[15:38]
Yeah.
[15:39]
I like your...
[15:40]
No surprises.
[15:41]
I like your summary, Stuart,
[15:42]
because it's sort of like a six-year-old talking about a movie he saw last night,
[15:46]
and then this happened.
[15:48]
Oh, man, and then this other piece happened.
[15:50]
There's a bunch of battling.
Stuart Wellington
[15:51]
Yeah, there was not nearly as much battling as I would have expected.
Elliott Kalan
[15:55]
Yeah, there's maybe, what, like five fight scenes in a 95-minute movie?
[15:58]
Mm-hmm.
[15:59]
And none of them are, like...
[16:00]
It's not like they're old-boy hallway marathon-length fight scenes.
[16:04]
Like, they're just your normal, like...
Stuart Wellington
[16:06]
Yeah, a couple wire stunts.
[16:07]
Yeah.
[16:08]
A couple grabbing each other's arms,
[16:10]
and then, like, shifting your position around and grabbing their arm again.
Elliott Kalan
[16:13]
There's a very disappointing scene, Fight with Vega,
[16:16]
another Street Fighter character who wears a mask
[16:19]
and has three blades on one hand, like Wolverine.
[16:21]
Sure.
[16:22]
And she takes him down in, I don't know, like two minutes?
[16:27]
Yeah.
[16:27]
A minute and a half?
[16:28]
Yeah, not very climactic.
[16:29]
And then you expect...
Dan McCoy
[16:30]
He's made out to be, like, the Boba Fett of this universe, too.
[16:33]
Yeah.
[16:33]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[16:34]
And I almost assumed, like,
[16:36]
oh, okay, well, he'll come back at some point for revenge.
[16:38]
No, he's just gone, you know.
[16:40]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[16:41]
Yeah, like, I can only imagine that in the movie theaters
[16:45]
that all the guys who, you know,
[16:48]
plunked down all their hard-earned money
[16:50]
to play the video game in the arcade
[16:53]
who liked to play with this Vega character
[16:55]
were really disappointed that their favorite character
[16:57]
was not doing any of his signature battle moves.
Elliott Kalan
[16:59]
And not even wearing matador pants.
[17:01]
Yeah.
[17:02]
As he does in the game.
Stuart Wellington
[17:03]
Which is probably the best part about it.
[17:05]
Yeah, well, Ed's the thing.
Elliott Kalan
[17:06]
Everyone in the game,
[17:07]
everyone has these very specific outfits that they wear,
[17:09]
and in the movie, they don't even go to that length
[17:12]
of having them put on the costumes.
Dan McCoy
[17:14]
He did slice through a chain-link fence at one point,
[17:17]
and I believe that he would always fight within a cage.
[17:20]
Oh, yeah, you're right.
Elliott Kalan
[17:21]
That's true, in, like, a tapas bar.
Dan McCoy
[17:23]
Yeah.
[17:23]
So what do you think was a tapas bar?
[17:26]
It was a bar of some kind, and he's Spanish.
[17:29]
Probably a tapas bar.
[17:30]
The plane flies to Spain when you're about to fight him, you know.
[17:33]
He stops for a few olives in between fights.
Stuart Wellington
[17:35]
But in the video game,
[17:38]
this character has really, like,
[17:40]
very effeminate sound effects when he does things
[17:42]
and when he gets punched.
[17:44]
And he holds a rose.
[17:45]
But he doesn't do any of that in this movie.
[17:47]
No.
Elliott Kalan
[17:48]
Not that that makes this a bad movie.
[17:50]
They kind of rob zombie eyes to the character.
[17:52]
Like, he's a big lumbering idiot.
[17:54]
Yeah.
[17:55]
So, guys.
Dan McCoy
[17:57]
Sure.
[17:57]
So it's a bad movie.
[17:58]
Yeah, well, there are a few things worth talking about.
[18:02]
I think that one of them is that amazing sequence we talked about before
[18:07]
where, for some reason, Chun-Li tracks down this woman
[18:11]
who, I guess, is a bigwig in the M. Bison Crime Corporation.
[18:17]
Yeah, Shadaloo.
[18:18]
And figures that this is her way to get a message to M. Bison.
[18:22]
And so she goes into this club,
[18:26]
which is called, what, Insomnia?
[18:28]
Is that what it's called?
[18:29]
Yeah, you're right.
[18:30]
It was called Insomnia.
Stuart Wellington
[18:31]
Yeah.
[18:32]
In really, like, cartoony, colorful letters.
Dan McCoy
[18:34]
Yeah, in, like, burrito bar letters.
[18:36]
And she walks in and she's wearing, like,
[18:38]
a granny sort of outfit
[18:40]
with her hair up in two sort of
[18:43]
show-off lines.
Elliott Kalan
[18:44]
To put it in terms that our audience will understand,
[18:47]
she's dressed like Mon Mothma,
[18:48]
but she has hair like Leia in the first movie.
Dan McCoy
[18:52]
And she catches this woman's eye
[18:55]
from across the room.
[18:56]
Sure.
[18:57]
And there's immediate electricity,
[18:58]
I guess, that we're meant to think
[19:01]
that this was her plan all along.
[19:03]
I guess so.
[19:04]
She's like, I've researched this lady
[19:05]
and I know that she's a lesbian
[19:07]
with a fetish for bun hair.
[19:09]
For Leia.
[19:10]
Yeah, and so...
[19:11]
It was hot.
[19:11]
That was a hot scene, man.
[19:12]
It was hot.
[19:13]
That scene in that basic instinct.
Elliott Kalan
[19:15]
It was the least hot lesbian seduction scene,
[19:19]
I think, ever in movie history.
Dan McCoy
[19:20]
Yeah, as a straight man
[19:21]
who, you know,
[19:23]
sorry to our lesbian listeners,
[19:25]
you know, as...
Elliott Kalan
[19:26]
Yeah, sorry.
[19:27]
Dan's not into you.
Dan McCoy
[19:29]
He's taken.
[19:30]
No, I'm saying,
[19:30]
no, I'm apologizing
[19:31]
to our lesbian listeners
[19:32]
for doing the straight man thing
[19:34]
and fetishizing lesbianism a little bit.
[19:36]
Sure, like Missy Monday or something?
[19:38]
Yeah, sure.
[19:40]
I would normally think,
[19:41]
okay, sexy scene.
[19:43]
Our sexy heroine
[19:44]
is going to seduce this lady.
[19:46]
No, like they go,
[19:47]
they sort of dance awkwardly
[19:48]
around each other.
[19:49]
Like really just...
Elliott Kalan
[19:50]
It's almost like a lesbian seduction
[19:51]
at like a seventh grade dance.
[19:53]
Yeah.
[19:53]
Like they don't get it
[19:55]
that close to each other
[19:56]
and they're kind of feel weird.
[19:57]
Yeah.
[19:58]
You know?
[19:58]
They can't dance.
[19:59]
Yeah.
[20:00]
But that means...
[20:01]
Electricity between them.
[20:03]
Let me tell you.
[20:03]
The hench lady
[20:04]
or boss lady
[20:05]
follows her
[20:06]
into the lady's bathroom
[20:07]
and then...
[20:09]
Then the sparks are going to...
[20:10]
Locks the door
[20:10]
and you're like scissoring.
[20:11]
We've all seen this porno.
[20:13]
They're going to lie around
[20:13]
and scissor each other.
[20:15]
For some reason,
[20:15]
it's assumed we'll find it sexy
[20:16]
that they're having sex
[20:17]
over a toilet.
[20:18]
Sure.
[20:19]
But no,
[20:20]
that's not what happens.
Stuart Wellington
[20:22]
That is the sexiest place
[20:24]
to have sex.
[20:24]
We've already covered that.
[20:25]
It's just a bunch of fighting.
[20:28]
Yeah.
[20:29]
Instead of sex,
[20:30]
it's a bunch of punching
[20:31]
and a lot of like...
[20:32]
It is one of the best fight
Dan McCoy
[20:33]
scene in the movie,
[20:34]
I would say.
[20:34]
Guys,
[20:35]
maybe that's how lesbians
[20:36]
have sex.
[20:37]
By punching each other.
[20:38]
I don't know.
[20:38]
I don't have no personal
[20:39]
first-hand experience.
[20:40]
I've only seen the movies
[20:41]
and those are made
[20:41]
for straight guys.
[20:42]
Yeah.
[20:43]
So it could be
Stuart Wellington
[20:43]
just a bunch of kung fu fighting.
[20:45]
Yep.
[20:46]
Wait,
[20:46]
that's what that was?
[20:47]
It looked like
[20:48]
a bunch of arm bars
[20:49]
and like smashing each other
[20:50]
into things.
[20:51]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[20:52]
Well,
[20:52]
they were fighting
[20:52]
in a confined space.
[20:54]
It was like the fist fight
[20:54]
in From Russia With Love.
[20:56]
Oh, okay.
[20:56]
Or the trailer
Stuart Wellington
[20:57]
in Kill Bill.
[20:58]
Part two.
[20:58]
It was also a lot like
[20:59]
that fight scene
[21:01]
in the bathhouse
[21:02]
in Eastern Promises.
[21:03]
Yeah, yeah.
[21:04]
Exactly.
Dan McCoy
[21:05]
Except not as sexy.
[21:06]
Only that was sexier.
[21:08]
Yeah, that was way sexy.
[21:08]
As a straight man,
[21:09]
I will say,
[21:10]
seeing Megan Morgan
[21:11]
seeing the back of his scrotum
[21:14]
was very exciting.
[21:17]
That's the best part
[21:17]
of the scrotum.
[21:22]
That sounds like
[21:23]
you're talking about it
[21:24]
like you're going to eat it.
[21:25]
Yes,
[21:25]
that's a cut of meat.
[21:26]
That's the prized cut.
[21:28]
We give that
[21:29]
to the most honored guest.
[21:30]
This is the filetman scrotum.
Stuart Wellington
[21:34]
So yeah,
[21:34]
that scene was really good.
[21:36]
You were talking earlier
[21:37]
about how
[21:39]
this movie plays
[21:41]
it kind of loose
[21:43]
with the ethnicity
[21:45]
of its actors.
Elliott Kalan
[21:46]
Yeah, the main,
[21:47]
the lead actress,
[21:47]
so I guess
[21:48]
Dan looked up
[21:49]
on Wikipedia,
[21:49]
I guess,
[21:50]
and she is half Chinese,
[21:51]
but she really doesn't look it.
[21:54]
And, you know,
[21:55]
the main character,
[21:56]
the main villain,
[21:57]
he operates out of Hong Kong,
[21:59]
but he's supposed to be Irish,
[22:02]
like he's white.
Dan McCoy
[22:03]
As you pointed out
[22:04]
before we really got into it,
[22:06]
into things,
[22:07]
so I think that the audience
[22:08]
may have missed it.
[22:08]
Oh.
[22:09]
He does have an Irish accent,
[22:10]
despite coming to China
[22:12]
as a baby.
[22:12]
Despite being a baby.
[22:13]
Yeah, despite growing up,
Elliott Kalan
[22:14]
well, Thailand.
[22:15]
Despite growing up in Thailand,
[22:17]
he has an Irish accent
[22:18]
because his parents were Irish,
[22:19]
so I guess it's genetic.
[22:20]
And Hiram Gringold,
[22:21]
or whatever her name is,
[22:23]
Blood Goods,
[22:24]
she has,
[22:24]
she does not,
[22:27]
she looks like maybe she's,
[22:28]
I mean,
[22:29]
I don't know what her ethnicity is,
[22:30]
but she does not look Thai,
[22:33]
like Chris Klein is the other hero.
[22:35]
What's weird is he works
[22:36]
for Interpol,
[22:37]
but he's not English?
[22:38]
Yeah.
[22:39]
All the ethnicities are weird,
[22:40]
but it's also one of these,
[22:41]
maybe she was trying to do
[22:42]
an English accent.
[22:42]
She's like Native American.
[22:42]
Maybe.
Stuart Wellington
[22:43]
I don't think you walk around
[22:44]
with a name like Blood Good,
[22:46]
and not being.
Elliott Kalan
[22:46]
That might not be her real name.
[22:48]
Something tells me Blood Good
[22:49]
might not be her real last name.
Stuart Wellington
[22:50]
That's just her vampire name.
Elliott Kalan
[22:51]
Sure.
[22:52]
But it's one of these,
[22:52]
it's very much like movies from the 30s,
[22:56]
like The Hatchet Man,
[22:57]
or The Good Earth,
[22:58]
where the main characters
[22:59]
are supposed to be Asian,
[23:01]
but they're played by white
[23:02]
or white-looking actors.
[23:03]
And then in the back,
[23:04]
you have real Asian people
[23:05]
who are extras,
[23:06]
who don't say anything.
[23:08]
And it's just weird
[23:08]
that in a movie made,
[23:10]
I guess what,
[23:10]
they made it in 2008,
[23:12]
that,
[23:13]
about a character named Chun-Li,
[23:15]
who's Chinese,
[23:15]
that you don't have
[23:16]
a Chinese actress,
[23:17]
and if it's in Thailand,
[23:18]
you don't have like,
[23:20]
a Thai actress.
[23:21]
It was just very weird,
[23:22]
like,
[23:22]
as if audiences today
[23:23]
will not go to see
[23:25]
movies with Asian characters
[23:26]
or something.
Stuart Wellington
[23:27]
Yeah,
[23:27]
and it's not like the movie,
[23:28]
like,
[23:28]
theoretically,
[23:29]
if you're making a movie
[23:30]
based on Street Fighter,
[23:31]
I mean,
[23:32]
there's,
[23:33]
I'm guessing,
[23:33]
a relatively large Asian market
[23:35]
for this sort of thing.
[23:36]
I would think so.
[23:37]
Because,
[23:37]
I mean,
[23:38]
that's all those guys
[23:39]
I see playing the fucking thing
[23:40]
down at the arcade.
[23:41]
Well,
[23:41]
it does seem like
[23:42]
an odd choice.
[23:44]
Ethnographer,
[23:45]
Stuart Wellington.
Dan McCoy
[23:46]
It does seem like
[23:46]
an odd choice
[23:47]
on another level
[23:48]
that they didn't go out
[23:49]
and get,
[23:49]
like,
[23:50]
a Hong Kong action star
[23:51]
to play this role.
[23:53]
Instead,
[23:53]
they're like,
[23:53]
Like Jackie Chan?
[23:54]
Yeah,
[23:55]
Jackie Chan and Dre.
[23:56]
Some like it Chun-Li hot.
[23:58]
A female action star,
[23:59]
Stuart.
[24:00]
Chun like it hot.
Stuart Wellington
[24:01]
No,
[24:01]
that's good.
[24:02]
I like it.
[24:02]
You guys are fighting
Dan McCoy
[24:03]
for best jokes tonight,
[24:04]
I guess.
[24:06]
Anyway,
[24:07]
let me say what I was
[24:08]
going to say
[24:08]
before Elliot injected
[24:10]
that hilarious pun.
[24:12]
Like,
[24:12]
they could have gotten
[24:13]
someone,
[24:14]
you know,
[24:14]
of the correct
[24:15]
ethnicity who could
[24:16]
also fight,
[24:17]
but instead they're like,
[24:17]
Let's get that girl
[24:18]
from Smallville
[24:19]
and like cut it together
[24:21]
with a stunt double.
[24:23]
Why not get,
Elliott Kalan
[24:24]
what's her name
[24:24]
from Crouching Tiger
[24:25]
and Dragon?
[24:27]
Which one?
[24:28]
Zhang Jimmy.
[24:29]
Oh, yeah.
[24:30]
I don't remember
[24:30]
how to pronounce her name.
[24:31]
Yeah,
[24:31]
I bet you could do that stuff.
[24:32]
Not Michelle Yeoh,
[24:33]
she's too old for the role.
[24:34]
Yeah.
[24:34]
Unfortunately.
[24:35]
But like a young Michelle Yeoh.
[24:37]
Yeah.
[24:38]
Like super cop era.
[24:39]
A Michelle Yeoh type.
Stuart Wellington
[24:39]
Okay,
[24:40]
so now you're doing
[24:41]
like Wizard Magazine
[24:42]
style casting.
[24:43]
Well,
[24:43]
that would be,
Elliott Kalan
[24:44]
yeah,
[24:44]
where you cast it
[24:45]
just based on
[24:46]
what someone looks like.
[24:47]
For Venom,
[24:48]
Eddie Brock's a big guy
[24:49]
and he's blonde,
[24:50]
so Howie Long
[24:51]
is a definite.
[24:52]
Gambit would be
[24:53]
Jean-Claude Van Damme,
[24:54]
of course.
[24:55]
Wolverine,
[24:55]
Glenn Danzig.
[24:56]
Sure,
[24:57]
let's take them all off.
[24:58]
I don't remember
[24:59]
who else they had.
[24:59]
Peter Weller should be
[25:01]
Vision because he was
Stuart Wellington
[25:02]
awesome as Robocop.
[25:06]
And we have our movie.
[25:07]
Captain America would,
Elliott Kalan
[25:08]
of course,
[25:08]
be Howie Long.
[25:09]
I am in support.
[25:10]
Two roles.
[25:11]
Two roles.
[25:11]
It's a tour de force
[25:13]
for Howie Long
[25:14]
in Marvel Comics,
[25:17]
the movie.
Dan McCoy
[25:17]
He's not really doing anything.
[25:19]
I mean,
[25:19]
he's not since his ads
[25:20]
with Terry Hatcher.
[25:21]
He's in ads with somebody else now
Elliott Kalan
[25:23]
and it feels like
[25:23]
he's cheating on Terry Hatcher.
[25:26]
I love those ads
[25:27]
because it was like,
[25:28]
are we supposed to believe
[25:29]
they're married?
[25:29]
Or they're roommates?
[25:32]
I would see those ads
Dan McCoy
[25:34]
and I had no idea
[25:36]
who Howie Long was.
[25:38]
And so like,
[25:39]
He's a football star.
[25:41]
Duh.
[25:41]
Star of Firestorm.
[25:44]
Stuart,
[25:45]
you haven't met me before.
[25:46]
You are aware
[25:47]
that I would not know
[25:48]
a football star.
Elliott Kalan
[25:49]
Secondary role
[25:49]
in Broken Arrow.
Dan McCoy
[25:50]
But that's the thing.
[25:52]
Years later,
[25:52]
I learned that they weren't married.
[25:53]
I'm like,
[25:54]
what?
[25:55]
Why were they
[25:56]
in those commercials together?
[25:57]
They were cheating
[25:58]
on their spouses.
[25:58]
It doesn't make any sense.
Stuart Wellington
[26:00]
That was like right after
[26:01]
Lois and Clark too.
[26:02]
It was,
Dan McCoy
[26:02]
yeah.
[26:04]
Terry Hatcher calls those
Elliott Kalan
[26:05]
her years in the wilderness.
[26:07]
Sure.
[26:08]
Between Lois and Clark
[26:09]
and Desperate Housewives.
[26:10]
Heaven's Prisoners years?
[26:11]
Heaven's Prisoners
[26:12]
is somewhere around there.
[26:12]
Gross.
[26:13]
All right.
[26:15]
Thumbs down on her
Dan McCoy
[26:16]
on that movie.
[26:17]
Grody.
[26:18]
Let's just think about
[26:19]
the cool surface.
[26:20]
How about that?
[26:20]
Let's not.
[26:21]
All right.
[26:22]
So here's something else
[26:23]
that bothers me
[26:24]
about this movie.
[26:25]
So apparently
[26:26]
Jin.
[26:28]
Gan.
[26:28]
Gan.
[26:29]
Gem?
[26:30]
In the holograms.
[26:32]
Jim is my name.
[26:33]
No one else is the same.
[26:35]
Jim is my name.
[26:36]
Jim.
[26:37]
So the sensei.
[26:38]
Yeah.
[26:38]
Sure.
[26:39]
His character.
[26:40]
Apparently he's got
[26:40]
magic powers.
[26:42]
Yeah,
[26:42]
he can make hadoukens
[26:43]
and heal people.
[26:44]
He can do that
[26:45]
and he can like
[26:45]
heal cuts.
[26:46]
He's like a Scientologist.
Elliott Kalan
[26:48]
He uses his mind power.
[26:49]
Yeah.
[26:49]
He's got a fucking
[26:50]
sweet apartment.
Dan McCoy
[26:51]
Yeah,
Elliott Kalan
[26:51]
he's got a real nice
[26:52]
loft space.
[26:53]
Until,
Elliott Kalan
[26:53]
I mean,
[26:53]
obviously it doesn't
[26:54]
have a lot of
[26:55]
missile protection.
[26:55]
Until Michael Clark
[26:56]
Duncan blows it up.
[26:57]
Oh yeah,
[26:57]
Michael Clark Duncan's
[26:58]
in this movie too.
[26:59]
I just feel like
[27:00]
if he has magic powers
[27:01]
then things should be
[27:02]
a lot simpler than they are.
[27:03]
Well,
[27:03]
it's kind of like
[27:04]
D-Wars,
[27:05]
Dragon Wars,
[27:06]
where Robert Forster
[27:07]
has these amazing
[27:08]
magic powers
[27:09]
but all he does
[27:10]
is appear occasionally
[27:12]
and pull the hero
[27:12]
out of jams
[27:13]
but it's very obvious
[27:14]
that Robert Forster
[27:15]
could solve the problem
[27:16]
all by himself.
[27:18]
Like he's got magic powers.
[27:20]
Yeah.
[27:20]
Gen can kind of do this.
[27:22]
He doesn't need
[27:23]
Chun-Li at all.
[27:24]
No.
[27:25]
I like to think
Stuart Wellington
[27:25]
that he's obsessed
[27:26]
with the idea
[27:27]
of getting somebody
[27:27]
else to do it.
[27:29]
So he's like lazy.
[27:30]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[27:32]
He'll put in the
[27:34]
months,
[27:35]
we have to assume,
[27:35]
of training but...
[27:37]
Well,
[27:37]
he's motivated
[27:38]
but he doesn't like
[27:38]
leaving his house.
[27:40]
Maybe he's agoraphobic.
Elliott Kalan
[27:41]
Maybe that's what it is.
[27:42]
One of my favorite scenes...
[27:43]
Well,
[27:43]
he does have a really nice house.
[27:44]
One of my favorite scenes
[27:45]
in the movie,
[27:46]
Chun-Li first encounters Gen.
[27:47]
He's being beaten up
[27:48]
on a subway platform
[27:49]
and she saves him
[27:51]
but she doesn't see his face
[27:52]
and then later...
[27:53]
You see his spider tattoo
[27:55]
on his hand.
[27:56]
This is five minutes
[27:56]
into the movie.
[27:57]
Five minutes in.
[27:58]
Then about eight minutes in,
[27:59]
ten minutes in,
[28:00]
she goes to a marketplace
[28:02]
and bumps into a janitor
[28:04]
sweeping the sidewalk
[28:05]
and she notices
[28:05]
he has the same
[28:06]
spider web tattoo.
[28:07]
He can't get around this guy.
Stuart Wellington
[28:08]
He moves so quick
[28:08]
like a dancer.
[28:09]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[28:11]
But then
[28:11]
she goes into a store
[28:13]
feet away
[28:14]
and the woman says,
[28:16]
you need to find Gen,
[28:17]
the man with the spider web tattoo
[28:19]
and you have to go to Bangkok.
[28:21]
And then the next scene
[28:22]
is her leaving her house
[28:23]
and flying to Bangkok.
[28:24]
It's like,
[28:25]
that dude was just...
[28:26]
He's just a couple feet away.
[28:27]
He's sweeping the ground
[28:28]
right outside the store.
Stuart Wellington
[28:29]
And as soon as she shows it,
[28:30]
she mentions it
[28:31]
and shows the tattoo,
[28:33]
they of course have a flashback
[28:35]
that's like sepia-toned
[28:37]
of her seeing the guy
[28:39]
with the tattoo
[28:39]
from three minutes ago.
[28:42]
Yeah.
[28:42]
Are they expecting
[28:43]
the audience to be like,
[28:44]
oh, but he had the tattoo.
[28:49]
Oh, I see what they did.
[28:50]
That's amazing.
[28:51]
They expect that
Elliott Kalan
[28:51]
the audience spends
[28:52]
so much of its brain power
[28:53]
remembering combos
[28:54]
that it cannot
[28:56]
take in plot developments.
Dan McCoy
[28:58]
I think that the audience
[28:59]
for the Flophouse
[28:59]
does not realize
[29:00]
what we now know
[29:02]
to be true
[29:02]
having had to watch all these,
[29:05]
which is the extreme
[29:07]
commonness of flashbacks
[29:10]
to things that happened
[29:11]
five minutes before.
[29:13]
Yeah.
[29:13]
Like if you only watch
[29:14]
good movies,
[29:15]
you would not be aware
[29:16]
that this is a thing.
[29:17]
But having watched
[29:18]
so many bad movies,
[29:19]
there's so many flashbacks.
[29:20]
Like no one making
[29:21]
a bad movie...
[29:22]
To footage from earlier
[29:23]
in the film.
[29:23]
Yeah.
[29:23]
No one making a bad movie
[29:24]
has any faith
[29:26]
in the audience's
[29:27]
short-term memory.
[29:28]
Like, I mean,
[29:29]
I guess maybe
[29:31]
they're all stoned.
[29:32]
Maybe they all have
[29:32]
bad short-term
[29:33]
members themselves.
[29:35]
I don't know.
Elliott Kalan
[29:35]
I think they expect
[29:36]
this movie is bad.
[29:37]
Only stupid people
[29:38]
will see this movie.
[29:39]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[29:40]
Yeah, that's about it.
[29:40]
Do you think
[29:41]
like test audiences
[29:42]
insisted that they
[29:43]
add in those flashbacks?
[29:45]
I think test audiences
[29:45]
were like,
[29:46]
whoa, whoa,
[29:47]
wait a minute.
Elliott Kalan
[29:48]
This guy with the
[29:50]
cobweb hand
[29:50]
came out of nowhere.
[29:52]
How would this
[29:53]
foreshadow that?
Dan McCoy
[29:55]
Test audiences
[29:56]
gave this movie
[29:57]
an A+.
[29:58]
Like, it's testing
[30:00]
through the roof.
[30:01]
This is doing great.
[30:02]
It never had
[30:02]
such a great response.
Elliott Kalan
[30:04]
The dials were actually
[30:05]
set backwards
[30:06]
by accident.
[30:07]
So everyone was going,
[30:09]
boo, terrible.
[30:10]
But it was registering
[30:11]
as fantastic.
[30:13]
Best movie ever.
Dan McCoy
[30:15]
We haven't really
[30:16]
talked about
[30:17]
comparing this movie
[30:18]
to
[30:19]
Street Fighter,
[30:20]
Street Fighter,
[30:20]
the old one
[30:21]
with Raul Julia
[30:22]
and Jump on the game.
[30:23]
I can't join in
[30:24]
because I've not
[30:25]
seen that old one.
[30:26]
I haven't seen it
[30:26]
since I was a kid.
[30:27]
I haven't seen it
[30:28]
since it was
[30:28]
in the movie theater.
Elliott Kalan
[30:29]
Raul Julia
[30:30]
and Neil McDonough
[30:30]
have very different
[30:31]
ways of playing
[30:32]
M. Bison.
Stuart Wellington
[30:33]
The same character, yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[30:34]
Yeah, Neil McDonough
[30:34]
is more of a
[30:35]
evil businessman,
[30:38]
whereas Raul Julia
[30:39]
is more of a
[30:40]
kind of like
[30:42]
Stalin,
[30:43]
Mao type character.
Stuart Wellington
[30:44]
Yeah, he also,
[30:45]
there was a certain
[30:46]
fatalism in Raul Julia's
[30:48]
performance.
[30:49]
Like, obviously,
[30:50]
now we know why.
[30:52]
But, yeah,
[30:53]
it was,
[30:54]
but there's this,
[30:56]
you know,
[30:56]
there's this,
[30:57]
like,
[30:57]
almost a sadness
[30:58]
that kind of
[30:58]
hangs over him.
[30:59]
Oh, God.
Elliott Kalan
[31:00]
Well, there's,
[31:01]
he definitely,
[31:01]
he brings more
[31:03]
to the role
[31:03]
just by virtue
[31:04]
of being Raul Julia.
[31:05]
Yeah.
[31:06]
And, I mean,
[31:07]
I think,
[31:08]
the sheer Raul Julia-ness.
[31:09]
Combined with the fact
[31:09]
that, I mean,
Stuart Wellington
[31:10]
his opponent,
[31:13]
like his nemesis,
[31:14]
adds weight to him.
[31:15]
You know,
[31:16]
when his bad guy,
[31:17]
like, the good guy
[31:18]
that he's fighting
[31:18]
is Jean-Claude Van Damme
[31:19]
as opposed to
[31:20]
JCVD.
[31:21]
Yeah, as opposed to
[31:22]
some chick from Smallville.
[31:23]
Like, that makes him
Elliott Kalan
[31:24]
seem more badass,
[31:26]
you know?
[31:26]
It is weird, though,
[31:27]
the part where
[31:27]
Jean-Claude Van Damme
[31:28]
starts speaking French
[31:29]
and M. Bison goes,
[31:30]
oh, mi amor,
[31:31]
and starts kissing up
[31:32]
his arm.
[31:33]
That's weird.
Stuart Wellington
[31:35]
That was a little weird.
[31:37]
They didn't do that
[31:38]
in this movie.
Elliott Kalan
[31:38]
No.
[31:39]
Raul Julia is an
[31:39]
interesting case
[31:40]
because he's a very
[31:41]
good actor
[31:41]
that nobody can seem
[31:42]
to remember any of
[31:43]
the movies that he made.
[31:45]
So it's like,
[31:45]
Raul Julia,
[31:46]
oh, he was a great actor.
[31:47]
Adam's Family,
[31:48]
Adam's Family of the Values,
[31:50]
Kiss of the Spider-Woman,
[31:51]
Street Fighter,
[31:52]
maybe they don't remember
[31:53]
Kiss of the Spider-Woman.
Dan McCoy
[31:54]
That was his big,
[31:55]
like, prestige.
[31:57]
Adam's Family.
[31:58]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[32:01]
Adam's Family is the role
[32:02]
he will forever
[32:02]
be associated with.
[32:03]
Sure.
Dan McCoy
[32:04]
No, I was going to say,
[32:05]
or Three Penny Opera.
[32:07]
We have not talked about
[32:08]
Chris Klein's
[32:09]
tour de force performance.
[32:11]
Yeah, he's fucking
[32:11]
incredible in this movie.
[32:13]
This is,
Elliott Kalan
[32:14]
I didn't realize
[32:14]
Chris Klein could play
[32:15]
another character,
Stuart Wellington
[32:16]
but what a character.
[32:17]
You know,
[32:17]
you see,
[32:18]
you think Chris Klein,
[32:19]
you're like,
[32:19]
I imagine dopey guy,
[32:21]
maybe dopey jock.
[32:22]
Sure.
[32:23]
Not so in this movie.
Dan McCoy
[32:24]
You're,
[32:25]
you're,
[32:25]
you're,
[32:26]
you know,
[32:27]
non-union
[32:27]
Keanu Reeves.
[32:29]
Sure.
[32:30]
I like him more
[32:31]
than Keanu Reeves.
[32:31]
Yeah?
[32:32]
Yeah.
[32:33]
Hmm.
Stuart Wellington
[32:34]
We learned a little bit
[32:35]
about Elliot today.
[32:36]
Well,
[32:36]
I don't like Keanu Reeves
[32:37]
very much.
[32:37]
Is it,
[32:38]
is it like the,
[32:38]
the like,
[32:39]
eroticism and manly
[32:40]
sensuality he brings
[32:41]
to the role?
[32:43]
Yeah,
Elliott Kalan
[32:43]
it's almost,
[32:44]
it's the exact opposite
[32:45]
of that,
[32:45]
actually.
[32:45]
Like,
[32:46]
he's so bland
[32:47]
that he brings,
[32:47]
makes blandness
[32:48]
into a part of the character
[32:49]
almost.
[32:49]
What,
[32:50]
kind of like Paul Walker?
[32:51]
Paul Walker is genuinely bland.
[32:53]
Yeah.
[32:53]
Okay.
[32:54]
But anyway,
[32:54]
Chris Klein is trying so hard
Dan McCoy
[32:56]
not to be bland
[32:56]
in this role.
Elliott Kalan
[32:57]
Yeah,
[32:58]
Chris Walker as Nash
[32:59]
is,
[33:00]
he is like constantly
[33:01]
moving around in weird ways,
[33:03]
looking at things
[33:04]
in crazy ways.
Dan McCoy
[33:05]
Glowering into the camera.
Elliott Kalan
[33:06]
He delivers all of his lines
[33:08]
as if they are
[33:08]
the wittiest,
[33:10]
toughest things
[33:11]
that this,
[33:11]
like,
[33:12]
sarcastic but sexy detective
[33:14]
could be saying,
[33:15]
you know.
[33:16]
He thinks he's in a,
[33:16]
like,
[33:17]
in a,
[33:17]
in a episode of Californication
[33:19]
it feels like,
[33:19]
you know.
Dan McCoy
[33:20]
Well,
[33:20]
he also like,
[33:21]
the character I think
[33:22]
is conceived as if
[33:24]
this guy,
[33:24]
oh,
[33:25]
he hasn't showered
[33:25]
in a couple days,
[33:27]
you know,
[33:27]
he's fished some coffee
[33:28]
out of the garbage
[33:30]
to drink in the morning,
[33:31]
like,
[33:32]
he's had five cigarettes
[33:34]
before breakfast,
[33:35]
but he looks like
[33:36]
the Disney version of that,
[33:37]
like,
[33:38]
he's been scrubbed
[33:39]
and then some,
[33:40]
like,
[33:40]
careful oil
[33:41]
has been applied
[33:41]
to his hair,
[33:42]
you know.
Stuart Wellington
[33:43]
And then every once in a while
[33:44]
it seems like he's,
[33:45]
like,
[33:45]
his line delivery
[33:46]
feels like he's channeling
[33:47]
Sean Hayes or something.
[33:49]
It just gets way too
[33:50]
offending.
[33:50]
You are really obsessed
[33:51]
with Sean Hayes.
[33:52]
Because he is,
[33:53]
that dude is fucking
[33:55]
hilarious.
[33:56]
You bring up Sean Hayes.
[33:58]
He is so funny.
Elliott Kalan
[34:01]
There's a great moment
[34:02]
where Chris Klein
[34:03]
is being sarcastic.
[34:05]
They have encountered
[34:06]
Chun-Li,
[34:07]
she's escaping from
[34:08]
the nightclub
[34:08]
and she runs through
[34:09]
a strip club
[34:09]
and while she's there
[34:11]
she knocks out
[34:11]
a bunch of gunmen
[34:12]
by kicking them
[34:13]
while swinging around
[34:13]
the stripper pole.
[34:15]
Again,
Dan McCoy
[34:16]
sounds more exciting
[34:17]
than it is.
Elliott Kalan
[34:17]
Yeah,
[34:18]
it's really not.
[34:19]
And Moon Bloodgood
[34:20]
says to him,
[34:21]
like,
[34:22]
maybe she's just
[34:22]
an angry stripper
[34:23]
and Chris Klein's like,
[34:24]
oh yeah,
[34:25]
an irate pole dancer
[34:27]
decided to go ahead!
[34:30]
And it's like,
[34:31]
sorry,
[34:31]
the levels are off the charts.
[34:32]
Your hand motions
[34:33]
definitely aren't captured.
[34:35]
But it's literally like,
[34:37]
you were saying
[34:37]
when we were watching the movie,
[34:38]
it's like the director said,
[34:39]
here you're being sarcastic
[34:40]
and Chris Klein was like,
[34:41]
no, I got it.
[34:42]
I've been practicing.
Dan McCoy
[34:43]
Yeah,
[34:44]
I know how to do this.
[34:45]
I got this one,
[34:46]
coach.
Elliott Kalan
[34:46]
So really,
[34:47]
there's a big,
[34:48]
like,
[34:49]
it is the most
[34:50]
ridiculous sarcasm.
Stuart Wellington
[34:53]
Oh, yeah.
[34:53]
My favorite part
[34:54]
was when
[34:55]
all the police
[34:56]
and Interpol people
[34:57]
find out
[34:57]
that,
[34:58]
you know,
[34:59]
the bad guy
[35:00]
has been secretly
[35:01]
buying up property
[35:02]
using his
[35:03]
Shell Corporation
[35:04]
Esperanto course,
[35:06]
Esperanto security,
Dan McCoy
[35:07]
and all the police
[35:08]
look out the window
[35:09]
to the giant tower
Stuart Wellington
[35:10]
that says
[35:11]
Esperanto security.
[35:12]
Right outside
[35:13]
of their office.
[35:13]
And then he's like,
[35:14]
oh my god,
[35:15]
they've been buying up property
[35:16]
or whatever.
[35:17]
They've been
[35:18]
lowering
[35:18]
the prices
[35:21]
and stuff
[35:21]
so they can
[35:22]
buy it up cheap.
[35:23]
Let's get on it!
[35:23]
And they all
[35:24]
run out the door.
[35:26]
Yeah,
[35:26]
it's like,
[35:28]
where are we going?
[35:28]
What are we doing?
[35:29]
What happened?
[35:30]
Why is...
[35:30]
How do we get on it?
[35:32]
How did we find this out?
[35:34]
Are they running
[35:34]
and go find lawyers
[35:35]
or something?
Dan McCoy
[35:36]
I like to imagine
[35:37]
that as soon as they
[35:37]
get out of the office,
[35:39]
they're talking to each other,
[35:40]
it's like,
[35:41]
do you know what
[35:41]
we're supposed to do?
[35:42]
No, I don't.
[35:42]
I just thought that
[35:43]
it would look good
[35:44]
if we ran out.
[35:45]
I left my keys in there.
[35:47]
I gotta go back.
[35:48]
Would it be weird
[35:49]
if I went...
[35:50]
Maybe I should wait
[35:51]
until he leaves.
[35:52]
It feels like
Elliott Kalan
[35:53]
there are two movies
[35:54]
going on here,
[35:54]
which is the very boring
[35:55]
Chun-Li movie
[35:56]
and then the
[35:57]
kind of hilarious
[35:59]
action cop spoof
[36:00]
with Chris Klein
[36:01]
and Moon Bloodgood
[36:02]
and it's like,
[36:04]
I wish it was
[36:05]
all that movie.
[36:06]
They are in the kind
[36:07]
of movie where
[36:07]
they show up
[36:09]
where the villains'
[36:11]
enemies have all
[36:11]
been left
[36:12]
on the pier
[36:13]
with their heads
[36:14]
cut off,
[36:14]
placed on plates
[36:15]
in front of them
[36:16]
and they're like,
[36:17]
huh,
[36:17]
on their own plates
[36:18]
and everything.
[36:20]
Well,
[36:20]
dinner's served.
[36:21]
You know,
[36:22]
like,
[36:22]
all these made-up
[36:23]
stupid,
[36:24]
crappy,
[36:24]
witty jokes
[36:25]
and like,
[36:26]
the,
[36:26]
and they're just
[36:27]
really over-the-top
[36:28]
and dumb.
[36:29]
Like,
[36:29]
I wanted to watch,
[36:29]
it was almost like
[36:30]
someone saw
[36:31]
Shoot'em Up
[36:32]
and was like,
[36:33]
yes,
[36:33]
finally someone
[36:34]
gets the way
[36:35]
an action movie
[36:36]
should be taken
[36:36]
seriously
[36:37]
and decided to
[36:38]
add that into
[36:39]
Street Fighter,
[36:40]
Street Fighter,
[36:41]
Legend of Chun-Li.
Dan McCoy
[36:42]
Well,
[36:42]
I want to address
[36:42]
something that you
[36:43]
briefly did before
[36:44]
which was that,
[36:45]
as you said,
[36:46]
these are kind of
[36:46]
like parallel plot lines
[36:48]
and the first time
[36:49]
they run into each other
[36:50]
is at that,
[36:52]
that fight
[36:53]
in the strip club
[36:55]
and they see each other
[36:56]
only briefly
[36:57]
before Chun-Li runs out.
[36:59]
But in that moment.
[37:00]
Well,
[37:01]
but they don't know
[37:01]
who this woman is
[37:02]
at all
[37:03]
and then we see
[37:07]
Chris Klein
[37:08]
on the computer
[37:09]
looking her up.
[37:10]
As you said,
[37:11]
Elliot,
[37:11]
he must have
[37:11]
Googled her image
[37:12]
since he just has
[37:14]
her face in his head,
[37:16]
not her name.
Elliott Kalan
[37:16]
like he scanned
[37:17]
his brain
[37:18]
and put that picture
[37:19]
into the computer
[37:20]
and said,
[37:20]
find this picture.
[37:21]
Right.
Dan McCoy
[37:22]
And so he sees
[37:23]
an article about her
[37:23]
being a pianist.
Elliott Kalan
[37:25]
A respected pianist.
Dan McCoy
[37:27]
Who has disappeared.
[37:29]
And then later on...
[37:29]
Every time they look
Elliott Kalan
[37:30]
up the news
[37:31]
in this movie,
[37:33]
it is on the
[37:34]
worst,
[37:34]
ugliest,
[37:35]
designed,
[37:36]
like,
[37:36]
newspaper,
[37:37]
fake website.
Dan McCoy
[37:37]
The biggest website
[37:38]
is, like,
[37:39]
all open white space
[37:41]
rather than real website
[37:42]
which would be
[37:43]
a bunch of ads
[37:44]
all over the place.
Stuart Wellington
[37:44]
Big red block letters.
[37:46]
Because they make
[37:46]
all this big deal
[37:47]
about how,
[37:48]
like,
[37:49]
secretive
[37:49]
this Shadow Lau
[37:51]
corporation is
[37:52]
and the bad guy
[37:53]
Bison.
[37:54]
But of course,
[37:55]
Chun-Li goes to,
[37:56]
like,
[37:56]
her local,
[37:57]
like,
[37:57]
library,
[37:58]
internet cafe
[37:59]
or something,
[38:00]
immediately just Googles,
[38:02]
I'm guessing,
[38:02]
Shadow Lau or something,
[38:04]
and immediately
[38:05]
the fucking
[38:05]
Neil McDonough's
[38:06]
face pops up.
Elliott Kalan
[38:07]
On a newspaper,
[38:08]
there's, like,
[38:08]
Esperanto Corps
[38:09]
buying lots of property.
[38:11]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[38:12]
But anyway,
[38:12]
these two main characters
[38:14]
don't know each other
[38:15]
at all,
[38:16]
and they've just
[38:17]
run into each other
[38:18]
face to face once
[38:19]
and then Chris Klein
[38:19]
She probably doesn't
[38:20]
even know who he,
[38:21]
like,
[38:22]
that he's a cop.
[38:23]
Yeah.
[38:23]
And then all of a sudden
[38:24]
at the end of the movie
[38:25]
he looks like a cop.
[38:27]
Yeah.
[38:27]
At the end of the movie,
[38:28]
all of a sudden,
[38:29]
she shows up
[38:30]
in his apartment
[38:31]
and is like,
[38:32]
I'm gonna go down
[38:33]
to the docks
[38:33]
and take these guys down.
[38:34]
I need some backup.
[38:36]
And he's like,
[38:36]
alright,
Stuart Wellington
[38:37]
sure,
[38:38]
whatever,
[38:38]
I'm on board.
[38:39]
I think he said it
[38:40]
probably a little bit
[38:41]
wittier
[38:42]
with like a weird
[38:43]
leer on his face.
[38:44]
Sure.
[38:45]
Or a scowl.
[38:47]
Oh, God.
[38:48]
Great movie.
Dan McCoy
[38:50]
Oh, it is a really stupid movie.
Stuart Wellington
[38:51]
I think you really
[38:52]
summed it up best
[38:53]
in that this movie
[38:54]
only makes sense
[38:54]
because you've seen
[38:55]
other movies.
[38:57]
Like, so many decisions.
Elliott Kalan
[38:58]
The plot is so,
[38:59]
is by the numbers,
[39:00]
but it's like they,
[39:01]
it's so by the numbers
[39:02]
they didn't bother
[39:03]
to hit all the numbers.
[39:04]
You know.
[39:05]
Yeah.
[39:05]
And they're just like,
[39:06]
ah, the audience
[39:07]
knows how movies work.
[39:09]
They'll fill in the gaps.
Dan McCoy
[39:10]
Yeah.
[39:11]
Okay, so we're running
[39:11]
over time,
[39:12]
so we should do
[39:13]
our final judgments
[39:13]
really fast.
[39:14]
Sure.
[39:15]
And move on.
Elliott Kalan
[39:15]
We had a lot more
[39:16]
to say about this
Dan McCoy
[39:17]
than I thought we would.
[39:18]
So.
[39:19]
Is bad.
[39:20]
Yeah.
[39:20]
Is this a good bad movie,
[39:21]
a bad bad movie,
[39:22]
or a movie that you
[39:22]
kind of liked in some way?
[39:23]
I will go with Elliot
[39:25]
in the sense that
[39:25]
if this movie was all
[39:27]
about Chris Klein,
[39:28]
I would think it was hilarious.
[39:30]
It would be a good bad movie.
[39:31]
Like, because
[39:31]
it is the worst performance
[39:33]
I've seen
[39:34]
in a major release film
[39:36]
that I can remember.
[39:37]
And it's hilarious.
[39:38]
But everything with
[39:39]
our actual main character
[39:41]
is boring, boring, boring.
[39:43]
So that's what I have
[39:43]
to say about it.
Stuart Wellington
[39:44]
Yeah.
[39:44]
Bad, bad.
[39:45]
I agree.
[39:46]
I'm going to go good bad
[39:47]
on this one because
[39:47]
Whoa!
[39:48]
Because everything
[39:50]
about this movie
[39:51]
is so stupid
[39:52]
and terrible
[39:53]
that it makes it
[39:55]
kind of fun to watch it
[39:56]
because it's so dumb.
[39:57]
Okay, it was a good movie
[39:58]
to make fun of.
[39:59]
I'll give you that.
[39:59]
Yeah, that's...
[40:00]
And it's...
[40:00]
Oh, what were you going to say?
[40:01]
That's all I was going to say.
Elliott Kalan
[40:02]
And it's only 95 minutes long
[40:03]
so it's not like
[40:04]
7 pounds
[40:05]
which was roughly
[40:06]
18 hours long.
Stuart Wellington
[40:07]
Yeah.
[40:08]
And felt like
Dan McCoy
[40:09]
49 hours long.
[40:11]
So before we get
[40:12]
into our recommendations
[40:13]
we should
[40:13]
talk about the
[40:15]
contest.
[40:17]
The flop of the flopper
[40:18]
contest.
[40:19]
Sure.
Elliott Kalan
[40:19]
The contest.
[40:20]
The classic Seinfeld episode.
[40:22]
Yeah.
[40:22]
That's been sweeping
[40:23]
the nation.
Dan McCoy
[40:25]
We got a record
[40:26]
turnout of entries
[40:28]
this year
[40:28]
in the contest.
[40:29]
I think we got
[40:30]
one and then
[40:31]
one guy who maybe
[40:32]
was entering
[40:32]
but didn't make it clear.
[40:34]
And so
[40:34]
congratulations Dash.
[40:37]
You've won the
[40:38]
contest.
[40:39]
Wait, did you say Nash?
Elliott Kalan
[40:40]
No.
[40:40]
Chris Klein's
[40:41]
great character
[40:42]
from The Legend of Chun-Li?
Dan McCoy
[40:43]
No, I said Dash
[40:44]
the character
[40:44]
from The Incredibles.
[40:45]
Oh, okay.
[40:46]
Never mind.
[40:47]
Congratulations Dash.
[40:48]
If you're out there
[40:49]
get in touch with us
[40:50]
at theflophousepodcast
[40:51]
at gmail.com
[40:53]
Do what you can
[40:55]
to prove to me
[40:56]
that you're not
[40:56]
a crazy person
[40:57]
since we are going
[40:58]
to invite you
[40:59]
to spend time with us.
[41:01]
Yeah, or be crazy.
[41:02]
Yeah.
[41:03]
And we'll work out
[41:05]
the details
[41:06]
of you
[41:07]
coming
[41:08]
for one of these podcasts.
[41:09]
Hanging out.
[41:10]
Yeah.
[41:10]
Yeah.
[41:10]
Seeing how the magic happens.
Elliott Kalan
[41:13]
Yeah.
[41:13]
Oh, I can taste
[41:14]
the Popeyes already.
[41:15]
Maybe he'll get lucky
[41:16]
and get to watch
Dan McCoy
[41:19]
the Wolverine movie
[41:20]
with us.
Elliott Kalan
[41:21]
Yeah, we could always
[41:22]
put a hold on that one
[41:23]
until...
[41:23]
Yeah, I can't wait.
[41:25]
We can see Wolverine
[41:27]
briefly as a Civil War soldier
[41:28]
in the opening credits.
[41:31]
Oh, stop teasing me.
Dan McCoy
[41:33]
So now we should
[41:34]
talk about movies
[41:35]
that we actually
[41:36]
liked in some way.
[41:37]
Okay.
[41:38]
Recommendations.
[41:39]
Anyone want to start?
Stuart Wellington
[41:41]
Yeah, sure.
[41:42]
I was really sick last week.
[41:44]
So I was, you know,
[41:46]
I was watching some movies
[41:47]
and I watched
[41:48]
the movie Double Impact
[41:50]
starring Jean-Claude Van Damme
[41:52]
in both of the starring roles.
[41:54]
Mm-hmm.
[41:55]
Yeah.
[41:56]
And Bolo Young
[41:57]
is the bad guy.
[41:59]
There's some good fighting.
[42:02]
There's a couple
[42:03]
pretty good boob shots.
[42:05]
Sure.
[42:05]
All together.
[42:06]
Yeah, all together.
[42:07]
Like, and I kind of
[42:08]
built those boobs
[42:09]
that boob shot up
[42:10]
in my head
[42:10]
when I was a kid.
[42:11]
You built those boobs?
[42:12]
Yeah.
[42:12]
I built them up
[42:13]
in my head.
[42:14]
I didn't, like,
[42:14]
build them out of Legos
[42:15]
or, like, paper
[42:17]
papier-mache.
[42:18]
Uh-huh.
[42:20]
But, yeah, you know,
[42:22]
it was a good flick.
[42:24]
All right.
[42:24]
Thumbs up.
Elliott Kalan
[42:27]
That's not the one with...
[42:28]
Double Impact.
[42:29]
What's the...
[42:29]
Is it Maximum...
[42:30]
What's the one
[42:31]
with Species in it?
Dan McCoy
[42:32]
Maximum Overdrive.
[42:33]
What?
Elliott Kalan
[42:34]
What's the one
[42:34]
with the girl
[42:34]
from Species in it
[42:35]
with Jean-Claude Van Damme?
[42:37]
I have no idea.
[42:38]
Not Double Impact,
[42:39]
though, right?
[42:39]
No.
[42:40]
Okay.
[42:40]
Maybe Lionheart?
[42:42]
Yeah.
[42:43]
Oh, it's the quest.
[42:44]
That's what it is.
[42:45]
Sure.
[42:46]
The Legionnaire.
[42:47]
It's like Maximum Blowhard
[42:48]
or something.
[42:49]
Okay.
[42:50]
I haven't seen that one.
[42:51]
You're thinking of Lorenzo's Oil.
Dan McCoy
[42:53]
Lorenzo's Oil.
Elliott Kalan
[42:54]
No, not Sudden Death.
[42:55]
Well, anyway,
[42:56]
it doesn't matter.
[42:56]
Walk in the clouds.
[42:57]
Uh-huh.
[42:58]
Walk in the...
[42:59]
Jean-Claude Van Damme
[43:00]
in a walk in the...
[43:01]
Like water for chocolate.
[43:02]
Death of a salesman.
[43:04]
Like water for chocolate.
Dan McCoy
[43:06]
So I was sort of sick today,
[43:09]
so I had a little extra time.
Elliott Kalan
[43:11]
You guys were both sick.
[43:12]
Did you guys have a touch
[43:12]
of the swine flu?
Dan McCoy
[43:14]
Well, we made out.
[43:15]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[43:16]
Oh.
[43:16]
The mumps.
Stuart Wellington
[43:17]
No, I mean,
[43:18]
I don't think I had the swine flu.
[43:19]
Mine was more pooping-based.
Dan McCoy
[43:21]
Yeah.
[43:22]
Mine's...
[43:22]
Swine poop.
[43:23]
Mine's totally sinus.
[43:24]
No, it's not out.
Stuart Wellington
[43:25]
Yeah.
[43:26]
So I don't think we had the same thing
[43:27]
because I just pooped a lot.
[43:29]
Did you?
[43:29]
Did you?
Dan McCoy
[43:30]
Did you poop a lot, Dan?
[43:31]
I would like to just recommend my movie,
[43:33]
which is...
[43:34]
It's called Poop,
[43:35]
and it's...
[43:36]
I watched...
[43:37]
Everybody poops the movie.
[43:40]
It's...
Stuart Wellington
[43:40]
Star and Keanu Reeves.
[43:41]
89 minutes of just people sitting on the floor.
[43:45]
It's like one of those
[43:45]
Faces of Death things,
[43:46]
but with pooping.
Dan McCoy
[43:48]
I watched Trick or Treat
[43:49]
like you did last week, Stuart.
[43:52]
Yeah, man.
[43:52]
And I enjoyed it.
[43:53]
I think I enjoyed it even more than you did.
[43:55]
What?
[43:56]
But I'm not recommending it
[43:57]
because that would be a redundant recommendation.
[43:59]
Sure.
[44:00]
Repeat recommendation.
[44:02]
I also watched Roman Polanski's Repulsion,
[44:05]
but I don't think that that needs to be recommended to anyone.
[44:08]
It's a classic film.
[44:09]
A lot of people know about it.
[44:10]
A lot of build-up to the movie you're going to recommend.
[44:13]
I just don't want to leave anyone out.
[44:15]
I don't want Roman Polanski to feel bad
[44:17]
that I didn't mention Repulsion.
[44:18]
Roman Polanski has a lot to feel bad about.
[44:21]
Yeah, well, that's why I don't want to add to it, Elliot.
[44:25]
But...
Elliott Kalan
[44:25]
Huh-huh.
[44:26]
Why did Dan?
[44:27]
I mentioned Repulsion.
[44:28]
It's not even French.
[44:30]
I don't know why he had a French accent.
Dan McCoy
[44:31]
Yeah.
[44:32]
But I'm going to recommend Vampires.
[44:35]
That's Vampires with a Y.
[44:37]
It was made during the brief, or not so brief,
[44:41]
1970s craze for lesbian vampire films.
[44:46]
And of all the lesbian vampire films I've seen,
[44:49]
I think I would place it at the top.
[44:51]
Sure.
[44:52]
I put it above Vampire Lovers,
[44:55]
which is probably number two.
[44:56]
What about Embracing the Vampire?
[44:57]
Isn't that a little...
[44:58]
Above Daughters of Darkness.
[44:59]
What about Emmanuel meets Dracula?
[45:01]
Which is number three.
[45:02]
How does that turn out?
[45:03]
Also above Vampiros Lesbos.
[45:05]
Emmanuel wins.
Elliott Kalan
[45:05]
No shit.
[45:06]
It's a pretty weak vampire.
[45:07]
A pretty weak Dracula.
[45:08]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[45:09]
But, yeah, I liked it better than those other ones.
Elliott Kalan
[45:12]
Didn't Misty Monday make a Dracula movie?
[45:14]
Or a vampire movie?
Dan McCoy
[45:15]
Daughters of Dracula, I think.
[45:17]
Oh, you said that already.
[45:18]
I guess I...
[45:19]
No, I guess that would be the fifth lesbian vampire film
[45:21]
that I've seen.
[45:23]
But of all of those...
[45:24]
Where does that one rank?
[45:25]
That's probably number five.
[45:26]
It's not...
[45:27]
No, that's too bad.
[45:28]
It's more of a soft-core porn film
[45:31]
than a vampire movie.
[45:32]
Still counts.
[45:32]
To be honest.
Stuart Wellington
[45:33]
Yeah, I mean, I don't know...
[45:35]
I'd like to find out your ranking...
[45:37]
Like, how you rank things now.
[45:38]
We'll talk about that later.
[45:39]
What's the criteria?
[45:39]
I'll send you a chart.
Dan McCoy
[45:40]
I'll send you an Excel chart after the podcast.
[45:43]
But it feels kind of like a hammer horror film,
[45:46]
but not as incredibly slow
[45:48]
as many hammer horror films can be.
[45:50]
Mm-hmm.
Elliott Kalan
[45:51]
It's from the same...
[45:52]
MC Hammer horror film.
[45:53]
Mm-hmm.
Dan McCoy
[45:54]
It's from the same period,
[45:56]
but it was, I think, a Spanish production
[45:58]
that was trying to borrow some of the same feel.
[46:02]
And it has a lot of long sequences
[46:05]
where nothing happens
[46:06]
and it's just atmospheric, but...
[46:08]
Keep selling it.
[46:10]
In general, I think it's pretty solid.
[46:13]
I mean, if you want to see an exploitation film
[46:15]
that has a few actual haunting images
[46:18]
and also lesbian vampires,
[46:20]
I recommend vampires with a Y.
[46:22]
Sure.
Elliott Kalan
[46:24]
And now, that's V-A-M-P-Y-R-E-S.
[46:27]
The title isn't vampires with a Y.
Dan McCoy
[46:29]
No.
[46:30]
No, it's also not vampires at the Y.
[46:32]
That'd be a good movie.
[46:34]
A good movie.
[46:34]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[46:35]
I'll recommend two movies.
[46:37]
One is in the theaters right now,
[46:39]
and that is a movie
[46:41]
that a lot of people have not liked,
[46:43]
but I did, called Where Wild Things Are,
[46:45]
that I thought was very good,
[46:48]
very well done.
[46:49]
It is not a fun movie
[46:49]
and not necessarily enjoyable
[46:52]
to sit through at times,
[46:53]
but it's a very emotionally honest movie,
[46:56]
it feels like,
[46:57]
and I like the way they did it a lot.
[46:58]
But there are some, like,
[46:59]
twee Spike Jonze touches
[47:01]
that are kind of irritating.
[47:02]
But overall, I said A-plus, kind of.
[47:06]
Okay.
[47:06]
And the other movie is not in the theaters now
[47:08]
and hasn't been for 70 years,
[47:11]
and that is John Ford's Stagecoach,
[47:13]
which I recently watched again
[47:16]
so that I could edit it down
[47:17]
to about seven minutes,
[47:19]
and watching it again,
[47:20]
I was like,
[47:20]
this is a really good movie.
[47:21]
Like, I'd forgotten how fun it is,
[47:23]
and it's a really fantastic movie.
Dan McCoy
[47:25]
That also has an Irishman in it.
Elliott Kalan
[47:29]
I don't know.
[47:30]
Does Stagecoach?
[47:31]
Most of John Ford's movies do.
[47:33]
They have Victor McLaughlin being like...
Dan McCoy
[47:34]
I assumed that the drunk was an Irishman.
Elliott Kalan
[47:36]
Oh, Thomas Mitchell,
[47:37]
the drunk doctor?
[47:38]
Yeah.
[47:39]
No way.
[47:40]
He's probably of English stock.
[47:42]
Okay.
Stuart Wellington
[47:43]
Sure.
[47:43]
So now what do we do?
[47:45]
Now we sign off, buddy.
[47:46]
Okay.
[47:47]
You guys don't have any
[47:48]
wacky things to plug?
[47:49]
I do.
[47:50]
Yeah, what are you plugging?
[47:50]
You want me to plug something?
[47:51]
Sure, plug something quick.
Elliott Kalan
[47:52]
Well, this isn't for like another month
[47:54]
after recording this,
[47:55]
but my next film screening
[47:57]
at the 92nd Street Wide Tribeca,
[47:59]
December 2nd,
[48:00]
which is a Wednesday at 8 p.m.,
[48:02]
I'll be showing
[48:02]
The Miracle of Morgan's Creek,
[48:04]
Preston Sturgis' funniest movie,
[48:06]
bar none,
[48:07]
with special guest Christian Schall
[48:09]
of Flight of the Conchords
[48:10]
What?
[48:10]
to talk with me about the movie.
[48:13]
So again, that's December 2nd,
[48:15]
8 p.m.,
[48:16]
92nd Street Wide Tribeca
[48:18]
if you're in the New York area,
[48:19]
and if you look it up
[48:21]
on 92ytribeca.org,
[48:25]
I think is the website,
[48:27]
or 92ytribeca.org.
Dan McCoy
[48:28]
I don't know why you feel
[48:29]
like you need to put this
[48:30]
in the thing.
[48:31]
I will add a link to it
[48:33]
on the website
[48:33]
and it'll make it a lot easier.
Stuart Wellington
[48:35]
Some people know about it.
[48:36]
I don't know.
[48:36]
Sure, and I'm going to plug
[48:37]
Charlene's Bar,
[48:39]
which is where I go drink
[48:41]
after recording these things.
[48:43]
So if you want to find Stuart,
[48:44]
that's where the place to go.
[48:46]
Charlene's Bar.
[48:47]
Charlene's Bar,
[48:48]
Flatbush in Brooklyn,
[48:49]
Flatbush Avenue
[48:50]
between Park and Sterling.
Elliott Kalan
[48:52]
Yeah, wow.
[48:53]
Dan,
[48:54]
do you want to plug
[48:55]
your office or something?
Dan McCoy
[48:58]
My sketch group
[48:59]
has a show
[49:01]
in Long Island City
[49:02]
that's coming up
[49:03]
and that we will soon have
[49:05]
a monthly show
[49:06]
at the Magnet Theater,
[49:07]
but I will put links
[49:09]
to those on the website.
[49:10]
I will not burn up
[49:11]
extra tape
[49:11]
talking about those right now.
[49:12]
tape.
Elliott Kalan
[49:13]
This is being recorded
[49:14]
on a computer.
Dan McCoy
[49:15]
Yeah, but...
[49:16]
It's on the internet,
[49:16]
isn't it?
[49:17]
As I've pointed out
[49:17]
several times,
[49:18]
my computer only
[49:20]
takes a certain amount
[49:21]
of stuff before it breaks.
[49:23]
That's right.
[49:23]
You guys are pushing it
[49:24]
right now.
[49:25]
So,
[49:25]
I would like to sign off.
[49:27]
My name is Dan McCoy.
[49:29]
I'm Stuart Wellington.
Stuart Wellington
[49:30]
I'm Elliot Kalin, too.
[49:32]
Good night.
Dan McCoy
[49:33]
Bye.
[49:33]
Bye.
[49:34]
Elliot Kalin, too.
[49:35]
Is it Elliot Kalin,
[49:36]
as well?
[49:37]
So...
Elliott Kalan
[49:37]
I'll let the listeners
[49:38]
puzzle that one out.
Stuart Wellington
[49:44]
Are we all going to dress
[49:45]
it as sexy guestbusters?
Dan McCoy
[49:46]
I'm Stuart.
[49:47]
I'm talking.
[49:48]
Blah, blah, blah.
Elliott Kalan
[49:49]
Say something about your penis.
[49:51]
I'm Dan.
[49:51]
I'm also talking.
[49:52]
I never talk about
[49:52]
my fucking penis.
Dan McCoy
[49:55]
Gloria Stewart or something.
Elliott Kalan
[49:57]
Well, I never talk about
[49:58]
glories, too.
[50:00]
I thought you were
[50:01]
going to do it like this.
[50:01]
I'm Elliot.
[50:02]
Blah, blah, blah.
Dan McCoy
[50:03]
The mint apparently
[50:04]
also has vitamin A,
[50:06]
C, E, and zinc.
[50:07]
I'm going to take one.
[50:08]
Vitamin Z for zinc.
Elliott Kalan
[50:10]
Come back, zinc.
[50:11]
Come back.
[50:12]
Come back.
[50:13]
Come back, zinc.
[50:14]
Zinc.
[50:15]
Zinc.
[50:15]
Zinc.
[50:16]
Zinc.
[50:16]
Zinc.
Dan McCoy
[50:21]
It's Dan here.
[50:22]
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Description
0:00 - 0:37 - Introduction and theme0:38 - 39:10- We dive right in and discuss a movie based on a video game character that was only popular because preteen boys are too scared to talk to real girls - Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun-Li.39:11 - 40:10 - Final judgments 40:11 - 41:33 - A CONTEST WINNER ANNOUNCED, for the contest everyone (even the hosts) forgot was happening.41:34 - 47:47 - The sad bastards recommend. 47:48 - 50:17 - Plugs, goodbyes, theme and outtakes.50:18 - 51:17 - Station identification.
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