main Episode #83 Nov 8, 2009 00:51:17
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Dan McCoy
[0:00] This week we take on a movie made for anyone who ever played a video game
[0:03] and thought to themselves, I wonder what her story is?
[0:08] Street Fighter, The Legend of Chun-Li.
[0:30] Street Fighter, The Legend of Chun-Li.
Stuart Wellington
[1:00] Were you an Irish baby born in Thailand?
Elliott Kalan
[1:02] Yeah, I was an Irish baby.
[1:04] My parents were missionaries who died when I was a baby, but I still have an Irish accent.
Dan McCoy
[1:07] You retain elements of your Irish accent.
Elliott Kalan
[1:09] Yeah, and I became a well-known thief on the streets of Thailand stealing baskets of fish.
Dan McCoy
[1:14] Sure.
[1:15] We saw a film that had the exact same plot.
[1:18] Yeah, well, that was the backstory.
[1:20] That was like the plot of the movie?
[1:22] The plot of...
[1:24] It was a backstory for the main bad guy.
Elliott Kalan
[1:26] Yeah, well, I mean, he was loosely based on me.
[1:28] I'm not a villain.
[1:30] And he's older than me.
Dan McCoy
[1:32] It was also based on the popular...
Stuart Wellington
[1:35] Everything else, though, is exactly the same.
[1:38] You have taken your conscience and inserted it into a baby.
Elliott Kalan
[1:43] Yes, yeah.
[1:43] But in this case, that was just to keep it safe.
Dan McCoy
[1:46] Yeah, of course.
[1:47] That character was also based on the Hanson song, M'Bison.
[1:51] The popular Hanson song.
[1:53] That was fucking terrible.
Elliott Kalan
[1:55] Well, we watched Street Fighter, The Legend of Chun-Li, in case you were wondering.
[1:59] Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[2:01] So, it's based on the popular...
[2:03] It is, and the word legend is very loosely used.
[2:06] Series.
[2:07] Street Fighter.
[2:08] Yeah, I mean, doesn't...
[2:09] Street Fighter 2.
Elliott Kalan
[2:10] We all remember Street Fighter 2, Street Fighter 2 Turbo Edition, Super Street Fighter 2.
[2:15] Turbo Remix.
[2:16] Street Fighter 2.1.
[2:17] Yeah.
[2:18] Beta.
[2:19] Uh-huh.
Stuart Wellington
[2:20] Street Fighter XP.
[2:21] Yeah.
[2:22] Those are...
[2:22] You play those in arcades down in Chinatown, right?
[2:25] Against kids who are really good.
Elliott Kalan
[2:26] I mean, I didn't play them in Chinatown.
[2:27] Oh, you mean now?
[2:28] Yeah.
[2:29] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[2:29] Well, I'm a tourney guy.
[2:31] I go for the tourneys.
[2:32] Sure.
Stuart Wellington
[2:33] Who's your guy?
[2:34] Which guy do you like to play with?
Elliott Kalan
[2:36] Well, it depends on how I'm feeling that day.
[2:38] Sure.
[2:38] If I'm feeling a character who's a little lighter on his feet, I'll go with Vega, because
[2:41] he's got a Spanish gay thing that's very Almodovar.
[2:45] Sure.
[2:45] But, you know, if I wanted more characters who's more of a bruiser, I'll go with Blanca.
[2:49] Uh-huh.
[2:50] His electricity attack is good for keeping the kid I'm playing against off balance.
Stuart Wellington
[2:54] And he has really cool chest hair.
[2:56] Yeah.
[2:57] And he's green.
[2:57] And you like to make the sound effects when he wins.
[2:59] You like to make that same sound effect.
[3:01] Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[3:01] I like that the other characters are vaguely human, where he's, you know, just some kind
[3:05] of beast.
[3:06] Yeah, some kind of an animal.
Dan McCoy
[3:07] Like, why would they let him into the World Warriors Tournament?
[3:09] I'm just surprised he's wearing pants.
[3:11] Well, guys, to set this up for not nerds, which makes us feel like a lot of
[3:15] It's up as much as 5% of our audience.
[3:17] You are overestimating.
[3:19] Street Fighter 2, of course, was a member of the popular genre of video game known as
[3:24] the fighting game.
[3:25] The side-scrolling fighter.
[3:27] Yeah.
[3:27] Fighting games, of course, known for their plots.
[3:30] For a sprite-based fighting game.
[3:31] Yeah, which make it the best thing to adapt into a film, a feature film.
Stuart Wellington
[3:35] I mean, you know, sometimes...
[3:37] You're being a little sarcastic, Dan.
[3:39] I think I detected some sarcasm.
[3:41] That might not be coming through to the audience.
Dan McCoy
[3:43] The literary term would be irony.
[3:45] Sure.
[3:45] That's what I'm doing.
[3:46] Sure.
Stuart Wellington
[3:48] Well, you know, the movie Mortal Kombat was really good.
[3:56] I had high hopes going into this one, to be honest with you all.
Elliott Kalan
[3:59] Since Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter were the two big games.
[4:02] Like, kids would divide up whether they were a Street Fighter person or a Mortal Kombat person.
Stuart Wellington
[4:05] Yeah, and there were, like, dance battles between the groups of kids.
Dan McCoy
[4:08] Yeah, yeah.
[4:09] Sure.
[4:10] Wrap-offs.
[4:11] Wrap-offs.
[4:11] Wrap-offs.
[4:12] Based on the content of the game.
[4:15] Slam-offs.
[4:16] Just trying to...
[4:16] Dozens fights.
[4:17] You know, things that happened in the 90s is what I'm sure I'm thinking about.
Elliott Kalan
[4:21] Oh, yeah.
[4:23] Yeah.
[4:23] Bosnia.
[4:26] Lewinsky trial.
[4:28] MC Hammer.
[4:29] MC Hammer.
Stuart Wellington
[4:31] Jurassic Park.
[4:32] Yeah, all these things.
[4:33] So, yeah, so this movie's based on...
[4:38] It's based on Street Fighter.
[4:39] Yeah.
[4:39] But not really.
[4:40] Yeah, no.
Dan McCoy
[4:41] Because it's based on a character.
[4:43] Well, a couple of characters, but primarily one character from Street Fighter.
Elliott Kalan
[4:47] Well, it is a movie where they have written a story and they have given some of the characters
[4:50] in the story the names of Street Fighter characters.
[4:52] That's what it comes down to.
Dan McCoy
[4:54] And in one case, the glove of a Street Fighter character.
Elliott Kalan
[4:57] Yeah, and the Haruken fireball power.
Dan McCoy
[5:00] Yeah.
[5:01] Sure.
[5:01] So, I don't know.
[5:02] Let's...
[5:03] I feel like we've probably already confused everyone.
[5:07] So, let's start with a synopsis.
[5:08] Okay.
[5:09] Shouldn't we?
Elliott Kalan
[5:10] Yeah, that's fine.
[5:11] Can we start with Thanatopsis?
[5:13] The classic American poem by William Cullen Bryant?
[5:17] No.
[5:18] Okay.
[5:18] Well, then let's do a synopsis then.
Dan McCoy
[5:22] I would take a stab at it because I feel like this always goes to Elliot, but I was sort
[5:27] of sick today, so my brain is a little hazy.
Elliott Kalan
[5:29] 12 minutes into the movie, you got up and made popcorn for a while.
[5:33] Yeah.
[5:33] For about another 12 minutes.
[5:34] Here, let me take the reins here.
[5:37] You take it this time.
Stuart Wellington
[5:38] So, there's this little girl who's like half Chinese and half, I guess, English?
[5:43] I don't know.
[5:44] Something.
[5:44] Yeah.
[5:45] And she and her dad are in Thailand.
Dan McCoy
[5:46] Played by...
[5:47] Well, not played yet.
[5:48] No, they're in Hong Kong.
[5:50] But eventually, she'll be played by Kristen Crook, also a mixed race actress.
[5:55] Who doesn't look it, though.
[5:56] Yeah.
[5:56] Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[5:57] So, they're in Hong Kong, you said?
[6:00] Yeah.
[6:00] And he's like teaching her Kung Fu and she loves her dad.
[6:03] And then a bunch of ninjas show up and Michael Clark Duncan show up and start beating up her
[6:08] dad.
[6:09] And then Neil McDonough, who in this movie is playing a character named M. Bison.
Elliott Kalan
[6:15] How many other Flophouse movies has he been in?
[6:17] Because he was in 88 minutes as the imprisoned killer.
[6:21] Oh, yeah.
[6:21] Right?
[6:22] And I think at least one other one.
Dan McCoy
[6:24] Flophouse listeners may remember him as being the guy with the transparent eyes.
[6:29] He has the clearest blue eyes.
Elliott Kalan
[6:32] You can get lost in them.
[6:33] He looks like he's addicted to the spice from Dune.
Dan McCoy
[6:35] Yeah, but they're not like...
[6:36] Absolutely.
[6:37] But they're not like Paul Newman, like blue eyes, where you're like, oh, what a handsome man.
[6:41] It's like, you know, this man has no soul.
[6:44] Yeah.
[6:44] And it's reflected by the fact that his eyes have no color.
Stuart Wellington
[6:47] Yeah.
[6:48] And in this movie, I think like his character didn't...
[6:51] Whoa, whoa, I'm getting ahead of myself.
[6:52] Whoa, let's just say.
Dan McCoy
[6:53] So this like...
Stuart Wellington
[6:54] They kidnap the dad.
[6:55] Yeah, this evil dude takes her dad.
[6:58] And then I guess they just let her live in this giant house.
[7:01] Well, the family's still rich.
[7:03] I guess they're still wealthy, yeah.
[7:04] And she's a piano prodigy.
[7:06] She's a piano prodigy.
[7:07] And her mom...
[7:08] Which figures into the movie exactly none.
[7:10] Well, she's Asian, so...
[7:11] Her mom is dying of cancer or something.
[7:14] She dies, and then she grows up.
[7:16] And then she like...
[7:18] She dies, and then she grows up?
[7:19] No, no.
[7:20] Her mom dies in Chun-Li.
[7:20] And Chun-Li, you know that.
[7:21] Okay, sorry.
[7:22] Main character.
[7:23] She...
[7:23] So she's...
[7:24] Don't be so literal, James.
[7:25] She goes like, wandering around looking for her dad or something.
[7:28] And then she runs afoul of these bad guys.
[7:31] And then she meets this weird ancient, like, trainer or something.
[7:36] Basically a sensei.
[7:37] Named Gan.
[7:38] Yeah, named Gan.
Dan McCoy
[7:39] He's just wandering the streets waiting for someone to train.
[7:42] Yeah, he keeps popping up.
Elliott Kalan
[7:43] And he's got a spider web tattooed on his hand.
[7:45] Yep.
[7:46] He used to be part of the big crime organization that M. Bison, Neil McDonough, runs, called
[7:51] Shadloo.
[7:52] What is it?
[7:53] Shadloo.
[7:54] Shadloo.
[7:55] And...
[7:55] But isn't like the...
[7:56] But he changed his ways.
[7:58] Now he protects the people of the slums of Bangkok.
Dan McCoy
[8:01] But also, isn't the shell corporation for the bad guys named the Esperanto Corporation?
Elliott Kalan
[8:07] Neil McDonough also runs the Esperanto Corporation and Esperanto Securities, which is a huge size
[8:12] paper.
Dan McCoy
[8:13] Named after the popular, failed, made-up language that was meant to bring us all together.
[8:18] And it never happened.
[8:19] It's a good cover.
[8:20] It's a good cover.
Elliott Kalan
[8:20] It is one of the two most successful man-made languages.
[8:24] One with Klingon?
[8:25] Yes.
[8:25] Is that the other one?
[8:26] Those are the most successful artificial languages.
[8:28] Sure.
[8:30] So, let's get back to the tale.
[8:32] Okay.
[8:32] Legend.
Stuart Wellington
[8:33] Now, so Chun-Li starts saying, you haven't even introduced Chris Klein or Money Blood Glow.
[8:42] So, okay, let's...
[8:45] While Chun-Li...
[8:46] He has to find his place in the scroll, the ancient scroll he's been reading this off of.
[8:49] I've got my scroll laid out now.
[8:51] Chun-Li's being trained by...
[8:52] Yeah, Chun-Li's being trained by this ancient master.
[8:55] While that's happening, Chris Klein, who is doing his best Jason Lee impression, has like a hard-boiled Interpol agent cop guy who is always wearing like V-neck T-shirts and rolled-up sleeve.
Elliott Kalan
[9:09] It's kind of like a part Bruce Campbell would play if Bruce Campbell was really greasy.
[9:14] Yeah.
[9:14] And had no charisma.
Stuart Wellington
[9:16] And he is partnered up with Moon Bloodgood.
[9:22] That's the actress's name.
[9:23] That's not the character.
[9:25] The character's name I don't remember.
Dan McCoy
[9:26] It's also not the name of a fictional werewolf.
Stuart Wellington
[9:28] It's a real name.
[9:29] And she is apparently some kind of slutty cop.
Elliott Kalan
[9:33] I don't...
[9:33] She's part of...
[9:34] Well, here's the...
[9:35] It's the weird thing is she's part of the Bangkok homicide division.
[9:39] Sure.
[9:39] But she doesn't look really very Asian either.
[9:42] And she's always walking around in really low-cut tank tops and things.
[9:46] Yeah.
[9:46] Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[9:47] Well, but she's...
[9:48] I mean, I thought she was part of Interpol.
[9:49] Isn't that what Chris...
[9:50] I don't think so.
[9:51] I thought...
Elliott Kalan
[9:51] Well, Chris Klein is working with homicide.
Stuart Wellington
[9:54] Yeah, she shows up with like SWAT guys at one point.
[9:56] Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[9:57] She's part of that thing.
[9:59] But she's local.
[10:00] So there are like...
[10:02] We've got to talk about the races...
[10:04] Crime solvers.
[10:04] About the races of the people who play the characters.
Stuart Wellington
[10:06] So they're like the...
[10:07] They're like, you know, they're like our police characters effectively.
[10:10] And they got a lot of really witty banter.
[10:14] The kind of banter that you have no idea what the fuck they're talking about most of the time.
[10:17] But they just say everything with a smirk on their face.
Dan McCoy
[10:20] Yeah, you know it's a joke basically by the delivery, not by the content.
Stuart Wellington
[10:23] Yeah.
[10:24] And eventually...
[10:25] I gotta say...
[10:26] Chun-Li...
[10:26] Chun-Li starts doing some shit to try and beat up.
[10:30] That's accurate.
[10:32] Eventually, she does.
[10:34] She starts going after like the Bison's company.
[10:38] And then somehow she crosses path with the cops.
[10:43] And then...
Elliott Kalan
[10:43] Something...
[10:44] M. Bison's company is trying to take over the waterfront slums of Thailand...
[10:49] Of Bangkok.
[10:50] And then that subplot is dropped.
[10:53] Who cares?
[10:54] Sure.
[10:54] And something called the White Rose.
[10:56] Is being brought into Bangkok that M. Bison really wants badly.
[11:01] And no one knows what it is.
[11:02] It must be some kind of super weapon.
[11:03] Yeah.
[11:04] It must be something amazing that they have to take from it.
[11:05] Or Liz Taylor's new scent, perhaps.
[11:08] Yeah.
[11:08] These have always brought me luck.
[11:11] But the...
[11:12] Sorry.
[11:13] So they decide they need this White Rose thing.
[11:15] And Chun-Li is trying to take down M. Bison's.
[11:16] Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[11:16] Chun-Li tries to like find it.
[11:18] And then she ends up getting captured by Bison.
Elliott Kalan
[11:20] She seduces one of M. Bison's, I guess, female lieutenants.
[11:23] Yes.
[11:24] And then they have a fight scene in a bathroom.
[11:25] Yeah.
[11:25] Well, no.
[11:26] We'll get into that scene in more depth.
[11:27] Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[11:27] A painfully erotic battle scene.
[11:29] That's it.
Stuart Wellington
[11:29] So she eventually gets captured.
[11:33] She meets her captive father who's been alive all these years.
[11:37] And then her dad gets killed.
Elliott Kalan
[11:39] And Bison snaps his neck.
[11:41] Yeah.
[11:41] Right in front of her.
[11:42] Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[11:42] And then...
[11:43] That only serves to enrage her.
[11:45] He's like, okay, like, whatever.
[11:47] You suck.
[11:47] And he leaves.
[11:48] Like, there's no way you can stop me.
[11:49] And he leaves.
[11:50] And then, of course, his two henchmen let her escape after she beats them up.
[11:54] And then she runs through the streets.
[11:56] And then she gets shot.
[11:57] And then she gets saved.
[11:58] She gets shot.
Elliott Kalan
[11:59] And then she's being chased by the two clumsiest henchmen in the world.
[12:03] They're running through these crowded Bangkok streets.
[12:06] Not like...
[12:06] But they'll be knocking over fruit stalls and things.
[12:09] But there's plenty of room to run around the fruit stalls.
Dan McCoy
[12:12] There's one scene where a guy was literally, like, shooting over a bunch of greenery.
[12:18] Like, there was, like, a foot clearance.
[12:19] But then he felt like, oh, God.
[12:21] And he had to push the greenery over.
Elliott Kalan
[12:23] It's messing up my vision.
[12:24] They could very quickly catch her.
[12:27] But they have to slow down and push over all these stalls.
[12:30] And then when the villains are almost at her, the townspeople rear up and throw fruit at them.
[12:35] And they run away.
Stuart Wellington
[12:37] Yeah.
[12:37] You know, I think maybe those guys, just, like, one of their tasks for later on in the day,
[12:41] they went into their Microsoft Outlook and were like, task pushover fruit stalls.
[12:46] Like, ah, well, we've got to do this.
[12:47] And we've got to do that later.
[12:48] Why don't we just...
[12:49] We're here.
[12:50] Let's get this out of the way.
[12:51] Knock some fruit over on the ground.
[12:54] So, yeah.
[12:55] So, she gets shot.
[12:56] And then her sensei shows up.
[12:58] Who she thought was dead because his house blew up.
[13:01] Yeah, he got hit by a missile launcher or something.
[13:04] And he shows up.
[13:05] And he uses magic to heal her bullet wound.
[13:09] And then they hang out for a bit.
[13:11] And then somehow they split up again.
[13:13] And then she goes and finds the cops who...
[13:16] Who have seen her once.
Elliott Kalan
[13:18] And she doesn't know their names.
[13:20] But she finds Chris Klein and says, I need backup.
Stuart Wellington
[13:22] Yeah.
[13:23] And I don't know how she doesn't know his name.
[13:24] Because he's constantly saying, Nash out.
[13:28] I'm Nash.
[13:29] Me, Nash.
[13:30] It's Nash.
[13:31] Yeah.
[13:31] Bring men in.
[13:32] And people are just shouting Nash.
[13:34] It's really weird.
[13:36] Nash, goodbye for well, amen.
[13:38] Nash.
[13:39] Yeah.
[13:41] So, they end up...
[13:42] There's a showdown at the...
[13:44] At the wharf.
[13:46] Yeah.
[13:47] And they realize...
[13:48] At the lieutenant wharf.
[13:49] Yeah.
[13:49] And some people get...
[13:50] Some bad guys get killed.
[13:52] And then they find out that the White Rose was Bison's daughter all along.
Elliott Kalan
[14:00] Bison's daughter who, when he was a young man who grew up on the streets of Thailand as a fish thief,
[14:06] who, he needed to...
[14:08] This makes no sense.
[14:10] But he took his wife, his pregnant wife, to a cave because he needed to appease the dark gods to get rid of his conscience,
[14:16] which I guess was holding him back in the crime game.
[14:18] Like, he could be advancing, but the conscience was getting in the way.
[14:21] So, he plunges his hands into her pregnant belly, and it's much less exciting than it sounds,
[14:26] and puts his conscience in his infant daughter.
[14:30] Yeah.
[14:31] And that's the White Rose that he wants to get, because he seems to have lost track of her at some point.
Dan McCoy
[14:35] And I've always been under the impression that if a person wants to get rid of their conscience,
[14:40] they're basically almost there already.
[14:42] Like, you know, if you're the kind of person who's interested in divesting yourself of your conscience,
[14:47] you can basically just decide not to care about things,
[14:50] and just do it that way, rather than mystically putting your conscience in an unborn child.
Stuart Wellington
[14:55] Yeah, I mean, at that point, if you've already made the decision that you're going to, like,
[14:58] stab your pregnant wife in the belly with your hands,
[15:01] I think you're probably okay.
[15:03] Like, you've probably got a pretty good control over that conscience.
[15:05] You're pretty evil.
Dan McCoy
[15:06] Maybe that's the twist.
[15:07] Maybe it's like Dumbo's feather.
[15:09] Like, the power was already in him.
[15:11] Yeah, that's...
Stuart Wellington
[15:11] It's very uplifting and inspiring.
[15:14] Yeah.
[15:15] That's the message of Street Fighter.
[15:17] So, Bison takes his daughter conscience to his house,
[15:22] and all our good guys end up showing up at some point,
[15:25] and there's some battling, and...
[15:27] A fight to the finish.
[15:28] Yeah, there's a fight to the finish,
[15:29] and Bison ends up getting his head, like, snapped, like...
[15:33] Turned around.
[15:34] ...twisted all the way around.
[15:35] And then, you know, everybody's okay at the end.
Dan McCoy
[15:38] Yeah.
[15:39] I like your...
[15:40] No surprises.
[15:41] I like your summary, Stuart,
[15:42] because it's sort of like a six-year-old talking about a movie he saw last night,
[15:46] and then this happened.
[15:48] Oh, man, and then this other piece happened.
[15:50] There's a bunch of battling.
Stuart Wellington
[15:51] Yeah, there was not nearly as much battling as I would have expected.
Elliott Kalan
[15:55] Yeah, there's maybe, what, like five fight scenes in a 95-minute movie?
[15:58] Mm-hmm.
[15:59] And none of them are, like...
[16:00] It's not like they're old-boy hallway marathon-length fight scenes.
[16:04] Like, they're just your normal, like...
Stuart Wellington
[16:06] Yeah, a couple wire stunts.
[16:07] Yeah.
[16:08] A couple grabbing each other's arms,
[16:10] and then, like, shifting your position around and grabbing their arm again.
Elliott Kalan
[16:13] There's a very disappointing scene, Fight with Vega,
[16:16] another Street Fighter character who wears a mask
[16:19] and has three blades on one hand, like Wolverine.
[16:21] Sure.
[16:22] And she takes him down in, I don't know, like two minutes?
[16:27] Yeah.
[16:27] A minute and a half?
[16:28] Yeah, not very climactic.
[16:29] And then you expect...
Dan McCoy
[16:30] He's made out to be, like, the Boba Fett of this universe, too.
[16:33] Yeah.
[16:33] Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[16:34] And I almost assumed, like,
[16:36] oh, okay, well, he'll come back at some point for revenge.
[16:38] No, he's just gone, you know.
[16:40] Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[16:41] Yeah, like, I can only imagine that in the movie theaters
[16:45] that all the guys who, you know,
[16:48] plunked down all their hard-earned money
[16:50] to play the video game in the arcade
[16:53] who liked to play with this Vega character
[16:55] were really disappointed that their favorite character
[16:57] was not doing any of his signature battle moves.
Elliott Kalan
[16:59] And not even wearing matador pants.
[17:01] Yeah.
[17:02] As he does in the game.
Stuart Wellington
[17:03] Which is probably the best part about it.
[17:05] Yeah, well, Ed's the thing.
Elliott Kalan
[17:06] Everyone in the game,
[17:07] everyone has these very specific outfits that they wear,
[17:09] and in the movie, they don't even go to that length
[17:12] of having them put on the costumes.
Dan McCoy
[17:14] He did slice through a chain-link fence at one point,
[17:17] and I believe that he would always fight within a cage.
[17:20] Oh, yeah, you're right.
Elliott Kalan
[17:21] That's true, in, like, a tapas bar.
Dan McCoy
[17:23] Yeah.
[17:23] So what do you think was a tapas bar?
[17:26] It was a bar of some kind, and he's Spanish.
[17:29] Probably a tapas bar.
[17:30] The plane flies to Spain when you're about to fight him, you know.
[17:33] He stops for a few olives in between fights.
Stuart Wellington
[17:35] But in the video game,
[17:38] this character has really, like,
[17:40] very effeminate sound effects when he does things
[17:42] and when he gets punched.
[17:44] And he holds a rose.
[17:45] But he doesn't do any of that in this movie.
[17:47] No.
Elliott Kalan
[17:48] Not that that makes this a bad movie.
[17:50] They kind of rob zombie eyes to the character.
[17:52] Like, he's a big lumbering idiot.
[17:54] Yeah.
[17:55] So, guys.
Dan McCoy
[17:57] Sure.
[17:57] So it's a bad movie.
[17:58] Yeah, well, there are a few things worth talking about.
[18:02] I think that one of them is that amazing sequence we talked about before
[18:07] where, for some reason, Chun-Li tracks down this woman
[18:11] who, I guess, is a bigwig in the M. Bison Crime Corporation.
[18:17] Yeah, Shadaloo.
[18:18] And figures that this is her way to get a message to M. Bison.
[18:22] And so she goes into this club,
[18:26] which is called, what, Insomnia?
[18:28] Is that what it's called?
[18:29] Yeah, you're right.
[18:30] It was called Insomnia.
Stuart Wellington
[18:31] Yeah.
[18:32] In really, like, cartoony, colorful letters.
Dan McCoy
[18:34] Yeah, in, like, burrito bar letters.
[18:36] And she walks in and she's wearing, like,
[18:38] a granny sort of outfit
[18:40] with her hair up in two sort of
[18:43] show-off lines.
Elliott Kalan
[18:44] To put it in terms that our audience will understand,
[18:47] she's dressed like Mon Mothma,
[18:48] but she has hair like Leia in the first movie.
Dan McCoy
[18:52] And she catches this woman's eye
[18:55] from across the room.
[18:56] Sure.
[18:57] And there's immediate electricity,
[18:58] I guess, that we're meant to think
[19:01] that this was her plan all along.
[19:03] I guess so.
[19:04] She's like, I've researched this lady
[19:05] and I know that she's a lesbian
[19:07] with a fetish for bun hair.
[19:09] For Leia.
[19:10] Yeah, and so...
[19:11] It was hot.
[19:11] That was a hot scene, man.
[19:12] It was hot.
[19:13] That scene in that basic instinct.
Elliott Kalan
[19:15] It was the least hot lesbian seduction scene,
[19:19] I think, ever in movie history.
Dan McCoy
[19:20] Yeah, as a straight man
[19:21] who, you know,
[19:23] sorry to our lesbian listeners,
[19:25] you know, as...
Elliott Kalan
[19:26] Yeah, sorry.
[19:27] Dan's not into you.
Dan McCoy
[19:29] He's taken.
[19:30] No, I'm saying,
[19:30] no, I'm apologizing
[19:31] to our lesbian listeners
[19:32] for doing the straight man thing
[19:34] and fetishizing lesbianism a little bit.
[19:36] Sure, like Missy Monday or something?
[19:38] Yeah, sure.
[19:40] I would normally think,
[19:41] okay, sexy scene.
[19:43] Our sexy heroine
[19:44] is going to seduce this lady.
[19:46] No, like they go,
[19:47] they sort of dance awkwardly
[19:48] around each other.
[19:49] Like really just...
Elliott Kalan
[19:50] It's almost like a lesbian seduction
[19:51] at like a seventh grade dance.
[19:53] Yeah.
[19:53] Like they don't get it
[19:55] that close to each other
[19:56] and they're kind of feel weird.
[19:57] Yeah.
[19:58] You know?
[19:58] They can't dance.
[19:59] Yeah.
[20:00] But that means...
[20:01] Electricity between them.
[20:03] Let me tell you.
[20:03] The hench lady
[20:04] or boss lady
[20:05] follows her
[20:06] into the lady's bathroom
[20:07] and then...
[20:09] Then the sparks are going to...
[20:10] Locks the door
[20:10] and you're like scissoring.
[20:11] We've all seen this porno.
[20:13] They're going to lie around
[20:13] and scissor each other.
[20:15] For some reason,
[20:15] it's assumed we'll find it sexy
[20:16] that they're having sex
[20:17] over a toilet.
[20:18] Sure.
[20:19] But no,
[20:20] that's not what happens.
Stuart Wellington
[20:22] That is the sexiest place
[20:24] to have sex.
[20:24] We've already covered that.
[20:25] It's just a bunch of fighting.
[20:28] Yeah.
[20:29] Instead of sex,
[20:30] it's a bunch of punching
[20:31] and a lot of like...
[20:32] It is one of the best fight
Dan McCoy
[20:33] scene in the movie,
[20:34] I would say.
[20:34] Guys,
[20:35] maybe that's how lesbians
[20:36] have sex.
[20:37] By punching each other.
[20:38] I don't know.
[20:38] I don't have no personal
[20:39] first-hand experience.
[20:40] I've only seen the movies
[20:41] and those are made
[20:41] for straight guys.
[20:42] Yeah.
[20:43] So it could be
Stuart Wellington
[20:43] just a bunch of kung fu fighting.
[20:45] Yep.
[20:46] Wait,
[20:46] that's what that was?
[20:47] It looked like
[20:48] a bunch of arm bars
[20:49] and like smashing each other
[20:50] into things.
[20:51] Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[20:52] Well,
[20:52] they were fighting
[20:52] in a confined space.
[20:54] It was like the fist fight
[20:54] in From Russia With Love.
[20:56] Oh, okay.
[20:56] Or the trailer
Stuart Wellington
[20:57] in Kill Bill.
[20:58] Part two.
[20:58] It was also a lot like
[20:59] that fight scene
[21:01] in the bathhouse
[21:02] in Eastern Promises.
[21:03] Yeah, yeah.
[21:04] Exactly.
Dan McCoy
[21:05] Except not as sexy.
[21:06] Only that was sexier.
[21:08] Yeah, that was way sexy.
[21:08] As a straight man,
[21:09] I will say,
[21:10] seeing Megan Morgan
[21:11] seeing the back of his scrotum
[21:14] was very exciting.
[21:17] That's the best part
[21:17] of the scrotum.
[21:22] That sounds like
[21:23] you're talking about it
[21:24] like you're going to eat it.
[21:25] Yes,
[21:25] that's a cut of meat.
[21:26] That's the prized cut.
[21:28] We give that
[21:29] to the most honored guest.
[21:30] This is the filetman scrotum.
Stuart Wellington
[21:34] So yeah,
[21:34] that scene was really good.
[21:36] You were talking earlier
[21:37] about how
[21:39] this movie plays
[21:41] it kind of loose
[21:43] with the ethnicity
[21:45] of its actors.
Elliott Kalan
[21:46] Yeah, the main,
[21:47] the lead actress,
[21:47] so I guess
[21:48] Dan looked up
[21:49] on Wikipedia,
[21:49] I guess,
[21:50] and she is half Chinese,
[21:51] but she really doesn't look it.
[21:54] And, you know,
[21:55] the main character,
[21:56] the main villain,
[21:57] he operates out of Hong Kong,
[21:59] but he's supposed to be Irish,
[22:02] like he's white.
Dan McCoy
[22:03] As you pointed out
[22:04] before we really got into it,
[22:06] into things,
[22:07] so I think that the audience
[22:08] may have missed it.
[22:08] Oh.
[22:09] He does have an Irish accent,
[22:10] despite coming to China
[22:12] as a baby.
[22:12] Despite being a baby.
[22:13] Yeah, despite growing up,
Elliott Kalan
[22:14] well, Thailand.
[22:15] Despite growing up in Thailand,
[22:17] he has an Irish accent
[22:18] because his parents were Irish,
[22:19] so I guess it's genetic.
[22:20] And Hiram Gringold,
[22:21] or whatever her name is,
[22:23] Blood Goods,
[22:24] she has,
[22:24] she does not,
[22:27] she looks like maybe she's,
[22:28] I mean,
[22:29] I don't know what her ethnicity is,
[22:30] but she does not look Thai,
[22:33] like Chris Klein is the other hero.
[22:35] What's weird is he works
[22:36] for Interpol,
[22:37] but he's not English?
[22:38] Yeah.
[22:39] All the ethnicities are weird,
[22:40] but it's also one of these,
[22:41] maybe she was trying to do
[22:42] an English accent.
[22:42] She's like Native American.
[22:42] Maybe.
Stuart Wellington
[22:43] I don't think you walk around
[22:44] with a name like Blood Good,
[22:46] and not being.
Elliott Kalan
[22:46] That might not be her real name.
[22:48] Something tells me Blood Good
[22:49] might not be her real last name.
Stuart Wellington
[22:50] That's just her vampire name.
Elliott Kalan
[22:51] Sure.
[22:52] But it's one of these,
[22:52] it's very much like movies from the 30s,
[22:56] like The Hatchet Man,
[22:57] or The Good Earth,
[22:58] where the main characters
[22:59] are supposed to be Asian,
[23:01] but they're played by white
[23:02] or white-looking actors.
[23:03] And then in the back,
[23:04] you have real Asian people
[23:05] who are extras,
[23:06] who don't say anything.
[23:08] And it's just weird
[23:08] that in a movie made,
[23:10] I guess what,
[23:10] they made it in 2008,
[23:12] that,
[23:13] about a character named Chun-Li,
[23:15] who's Chinese,
[23:15] that you don't have
[23:16] a Chinese actress,
[23:17] and if it's in Thailand,
[23:18] you don't have like,
[23:20] a Thai actress.
[23:21] It was just very weird,
[23:22] like,
[23:22] as if audiences today
[23:23] will not go to see
[23:25] movies with Asian characters
[23:26] or something.
Stuart Wellington
[23:27] Yeah,
[23:27] and it's not like the movie,
[23:28] like,
[23:28] theoretically,
[23:29] if you're making a movie
[23:30] based on Street Fighter,
[23:31] I mean,
[23:32] there's,
[23:33] I'm guessing,
[23:33] a relatively large Asian market
[23:35] for this sort of thing.
[23:36] I would think so.
[23:37] Because,
[23:37] I mean,
[23:38] that's all those guys
[23:39] I see playing the fucking thing
[23:40] down at the arcade.
[23:41] Well,
[23:41] it does seem like
[23:42] an odd choice.
[23:44] Ethnographer,
[23:45] Stuart Wellington.
Dan McCoy
[23:46] It does seem like
[23:46] an odd choice
[23:47] on another level
[23:48] that they didn't go out
[23:49] and get,
[23:49] like,
[23:50] a Hong Kong action star
[23:51] to play this role.
[23:53] Instead,
[23:53] they're like,
[23:53] Like Jackie Chan?
[23:54] Yeah,
[23:55] Jackie Chan and Dre.
[23:56] Some like it Chun-Li hot.
[23:58] A female action star,
[23:59] Stuart.
[24:00] Chun like it hot.
Stuart Wellington
[24:01] No,
[24:01] that's good.
[24:02] I like it.
[24:02] You guys are fighting
Dan McCoy
[24:03] for best jokes tonight,
[24:04] I guess.
[24:06] Anyway,
[24:07] let me say what I was
[24:08] going to say
[24:08] before Elliot injected
[24:10] that hilarious pun.
[24:12] Like,
[24:12] they could have gotten
[24:13] someone,
[24:14] you know,
[24:14] of the correct
[24:15] ethnicity who could
[24:16] also fight,
[24:17] but instead they're like,
[24:17] Let's get that girl
[24:18] from Smallville
[24:19] and like cut it together
[24:21] with a stunt double.
[24:23] Why not get,
Elliott Kalan
[24:24] what's her name
[24:24] from Crouching Tiger
[24:25] and Dragon?
[24:27] Which one?
[24:28] Zhang Jimmy.
[24:29] Oh, yeah.
[24:30] I don't remember
[24:30] how to pronounce her name.
[24:31] Yeah,
[24:31] I bet you could do that stuff.
[24:32] Not Michelle Yeoh,
[24:33] she's too old for the role.
[24:34] Yeah.
[24:34] Unfortunately.
[24:35] But like a young Michelle Yeoh.
[24:37] Yeah.
[24:38] Like super cop era.
[24:39] A Michelle Yeoh type.
Stuart Wellington
[24:39] Okay,
[24:40] so now you're doing
[24:41] like Wizard Magazine
[24:42] style casting.
[24:43] Well,
[24:43] that would be,
Elliott Kalan
[24:44] yeah,
[24:44] where you cast it
[24:45] just based on
[24:46] what someone looks like.
[24:47] For Venom,
[24:48] Eddie Brock's a big guy
[24:49] and he's blonde,
[24:50] so Howie Long
[24:51] is a definite.
[24:52] Gambit would be
[24:53] Jean-Claude Van Damme,
[24:54] of course.
[24:55] Wolverine,
[24:55] Glenn Danzig.
[24:56] Sure,
[24:57] let's take them all off.
[24:58] I don't remember
[24:59] who else they had.
[24:59] Peter Weller should be
[25:01] Vision because he was
Stuart Wellington
[25:02] awesome as Robocop.
[25:06] And we have our movie.
[25:07] Captain America would,
Elliott Kalan
[25:08] of course,
[25:08] be Howie Long.
[25:09] I am in support.
[25:10] Two roles.
[25:11] Two roles.
[25:11] It's a tour de force
[25:13] for Howie Long
[25:14] in Marvel Comics,
[25:17] the movie.
Dan McCoy
[25:17] He's not really doing anything.
[25:19] I mean,
[25:19] he's not since his ads
[25:20] with Terry Hatcher.
[25:21] He's in ads with somebody else now
Elliott Kalan
[25:23] and it feels like
[25:23] he's cheating on Terry Hatcher.
[25:26] I love those ads
[25:27] because it was like,
[25:28] are we supposed to believe
[25:29] they're married?
[25:29] Or they're roommates?
[25:32] I would see those ads
Dan McCoy
[25:34] and I had no idea
[25:36] who Howie Long was.
[25:38] And so like,
[25:39] He's a football star.
[25:41] Duh.
[25:41] Star of Firestorm.
[25:44] Stuart,
[25:45] you haven't met me before.
[25:46] You are aware
[25:47] that I would not know
[25:48] a football star.
Elliott Kalan
[25:49] Secondary role
[25:49] in Broken Arrow.
Dan McCoy
[25:50] But that's the thing.
[25:52] Years later,
[25:52] I learned that they weren't married.
[25:53] I'm like,
[25:54] what?
[25:55] Why were they
[25:56] in those commercials together?
[25:57] They were cheating
[25:58] on their spouses.
[25:58] It doesn't make any sense.
Stuart Wellington
[26:00] That was like right after
[26:01] Lois and Clark too.
[26:02] It was,
Dan McCoy
[26:02] yeah.
[26:04] Terry Hatcher calls those
Elliott Kalan
[26:05] her years in the wilderness.
[26:07] Sure.
[26:08] Between Lois and Clark
[26:09] and Desperate Housewives.
[26:10] Heaven's Prisoners years?
[26:11] Heaven's Prisoners
[26:12] is somewhere around there.
[26:12] Gross.
[26:13] All right.
[26:15] Thumbs down on her
Dan McCoy
[26:16] on that movie.
[26:17] Grody.
[26:18] Let's just think about
[26:19] the cool surface.
[26:20] How about that?
[26:20] Let's not.
[26:21] All right.
[26:22] So here's something else
[26:23] that bothers me
[26:24] about this movie.
[26:25] So apparently
[26:26] Jin.
[26:28] Gan.
[26:28] Gan.
[26:29] Gem?
[26:30] In the holograms.
[26:32] Jim is my name.
[26:33] No one else is the same.
[26:35] Jim is my name.
[26:36] Jim.
[26:37] So the sensei.
[26:38] Yeah.
[26:38] Sure.
[26:39] His character.
[26:40] Apparently he's got
[26:40] magic powers.
[26:42] Yeah,
[26:42] he can make hadoukens
[26:43] and heal people.
[26:44] He can do that
[26:45] and he can like
[26:45] heal cuts.
[26:46] He's like a Scientologist.
Elliott Kalan
[26:48] He uses his mind power.
[26:49] Yeah.
[26:49] He's got a fucking
[26:50] sweet apartment.
Dan McCoy
[26:51] Yeah,
Elliott Kalan
[26:51] he's got a real nice
[26:52] loft space.
[26:53] Until,
Elliott Kalan
[26:53] I mean,
[26:53] obviously it doesn't
[26:54] have a lot of
[26:55] missile protection.
[26:55] Until Michael Clark
[26:56] Duncan blows it up.
[26:57] Oh yeah,
[26:57] Michael Clark Duncan's
[26:58] in this movie too.
[26:59] I just feel like
[27:00] if he has magic powers
[27:01] then things should be
[27:02] a lot simpler than they are.
[27:03] Well,
[27:03] it's kind of like
[27:04] D-Wars,
[27:05] Dragon Wars,
[27:06] where Robert Forster
[27:07] has these amazing
[27:08] magic powers
[27:09] but all he does
[27:10] is appear occasionally
[27:12] and pull the hero
[27:12] out of jams
[27:13] but it's very obvious
[27:14] that Robert Forster
[27:15] could solve the problem
[27:16] all by himself.
[27:18] Like he's got magic powers.
[27:20] Yeah.
[27:20] Gen can kind of do this.
[27:22] He doesn't need
[27:23] Chun-Li at all.
[27:24] No.
[27:25] I like to think
Stuart Wellington
[27:25] that he's obsessed
[27:26] with the idea
[27:27] of getting somebody
[27:27] else to do it.
[27:29] So he's like lazy.
[27:30] Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[27:32] He'll put in the
[27:34] months,
[27:35] we have to assume,
[27:35] of training but...
[27:37] Well,
[27:37] he's motivated
[27:38] but he doesn't like
[27:38] leaving his house.
[27:40] Maybe he's agoraphobic.
Elliott Kalan
[27:41] Maybe that's what it is.
[27:42] One of my favorite scenes...
[27:43] Well,
[27:43] he does have a really nice house.
[27:44] One of my favorite scenes
[27:45] in the movie,
[27:46] Chun-Li first encounters Gen.
[27:47] He's being beaten up
[27:48] on a subway platform
[27:49] and she saves him
[27:51] but she doesn't see his face
[27:52] and then later...
[27:53] You see his spider tattoo
[27:55] on his hand.
[27:56] This is five minutes
[27:56] into the movie.
[27:57] Five minutes in.
[27:58] Then about eight minutes in,
[27:59] ten minutes in,
[28:00] she goes to a marketplace
[28:02] and bumps into a janitor
[28:04] sweeping the sidewalk
[28:05] and she notices
[28:05] he has the same
[28:06] spider web tattoo.
[28:07] He can't get around this guy.
Stuart Wellington
[28:08] He moves so quick
[28:08] like a dancer.
[28:09] Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[28:11] But then
[28:11] she goes into a store
[28:13] feet away
[28:14] and the woman says,
[28:16] you need to find Gen,
[28:17] the man with the spider web tattoo
[28:19] and you have to go to Bangkok.
[28:21] And then the next scene
[28:22] is her leaving her house
[28:23] and flying to Bangkok.
[28:24] It's like,
[28:25] that dude was just...
[28:26] He's just a couple feet away.
[28:27] He's sweeping the ground
[28:28] right outside the store.
Stuart Wellington
[28:29] And as soon as she shows it,
[28:30] she mentions it
[28:31] and shows the tattoo,
[28:33] they of course have a flashback
[28:35] that's like sepia-toned
[28:37] of her seeing the guy
[28:39] with the tattoo
[28:39] from three minutes ago.
[28:42] Yeah.
[28:42] Are they expecting
[28:43] the audience to be like,
[28:44] oh, but he had the tattoo.
[28:49] Oh, I see what they did.
[28:50] That's amazing.
[28:51] They expect that
Elliott Kalan
[28:51] the audience spends
[28:52] so much of its brain power
[28:53] remembering combos
[28:54] that it cannot
[28:56] take in plot developments.
Dan McCoy
[28:58] I think that the audience
[28:59] for the Flophouse
[28:59] does not realize
[29:00] what we now know
[29:02] to be true
[29:02] having had to watch all these,
[29:05] which is the extreme
[29:07] commonness of flashbacks
[29:10] to things that happened
[29:11] five minutes before.
[29:13] Yeah.
[29:13] Like if you only watch
[29:14] good movies,
[29:15] you would not be aware
[29:16] that this is a thing.
[29:17] But having watched
[29:18] so many bad movies,
[29:19] there's so many flashbacks.
[29:20] Like no one making
[29:21] a bad movie...
[29:22] To footage from earlier
[29:23] in the film.
[29:23] Yeah.
[29:23] No one making a bad movie
[29:24] has any faith
[29:26] in the audience's
[29:27] short-term memory.
[29:28] Like, I mean,
[29:29] I guess maybe
[29:31] they're all stoned.
[29:32] Maybe they all have
[29:32] bad short-term
[29:33] members themselves.
[29:35] I don't know.
Elliott Kalan
[29:35] I think they expect
[29:36] this movie is bad.
[29:37] Only stupid people
[29:38] will see this movie.
[29:39] Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[29:40] Yeah, that's about it.
[29:40] Do you think
[29:41] like test audiences
[29:42] insisted that they
[29:43] add in those flashbacks?
[29:45] I think test audiences
[29:45] were like,
[29:46] whoa, whoa,
[29:47] wait a minute.
Elliott Kalan
[29:48] This guy with the
[29:50] cobweb hand
[29:50] came out of nowhere.
[29:52] How would this
[29:53] foreshadow that?
Dan McCoy
[29:55] Test audiences
[29:56] gave this movie
[29:57] an A+.
[29:58] Like, it's testing
[30:00] through the roof.
[30:01] This is doing great.
[30:02] It never had
[30:02] such a great response.
Elliott Kalan
[30:04] The dials were actually
[30:05] set backwards
[30:06] by accident.
[30:07] So everyone was going,
[30:09] boo, terrible.
[30:10] But it was registering
[30:11] as fantastic.
[30:13] Best movie ever.
Dan McCoy
[30:15] We haven't really
[30:16] talked about
[30:17] comparing this movie
[30:18] to
[30:19] Street Fighter,
[30:20] Street Fighter,
[30:20] the old one
[30:21] with Raul Julia
[30:22] and Jump on the game.
[30:23] I can't join in
[30:24] because I've not
[30:25] seen that old one.
[30:26] I haven't seen it
[30:26] since I was a kid.
[30:27] I haven't seen it
[30:28] since it was
[30:28] in the movie theater.
Elliott Kalan
[30:29] Raul Julia
[30:30] and Neil McDonough
[30:30] have very different
[30:31] ways of playing
[30:32] M. Bison.
Stuart Wellington
[30:33] The same character, yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[30:34] Yeah, Neil McDonough
[30:34] is more of a
[30:35] evil businessman,
[30:38] whereas Raul Julia
[30:39] is more of a
[30:40] kind of like
[30:42] Stalin,
[30:43] Mao type character.
Stuart Wellington
[30:44] Yeah, he also,
[30:45] there was a certain
[30:46] fatalism in Raul Julia's
[30:48] performance.
[30:49] Like, obviously,
[30:50] now we know why.
[30:52] But, yeah,
[30:53] it was,
[30:54] but there's this,
[30:56] you know,
[30:56] there's this,
[30:57] like,
[30:57] almost a sadness
[30:58] that kind of
[30:58] hangs over him.
[30:59] Oh, God.
Elliott Kalan
[31:00] Well, there's,
[31:01] he definitely,
[31:01] he brings more
[31:03] to the role
[31:03] just by virtue
[31:04] of being Raul Julia.
[31:05] Yeah.
[31:06] And, I mean,
[31:07] I think,
[31:08] the sheer Raul Julia-ness.
[31:09] Combined with the fact
[31:09] that, I mean,
Stuart Wellington
[31:10] his opponent,
[31:13] like his nemesis,
[31:14] adds weight to him.
[31:15] You know,
[31:16] when his bad guy,
[31:17] like, the good guy
[31:18] that he's fighting
[31:18] is Jean-Claude Van Damme
[31:19] as opposed to
[31:20] JCVD.
[31:21] Yeah, as opposed to
[31:22] some chick from Smallville.
[31:23] Like, that makes him
Elliott Kalan
[31:24] seem more badass,
[31:26] you know?
[31:26] It is weird, though,
[31:27] the part where
[31:27] Jean-Claude Van Damme
[31:28] starts speaking French
[31:29] and M. Bison goes,
[31:30] oh, mi amor,
[31:31] and starts kissing up
[31:32] his arm.
[31:33] That's weird.
Stuart Wellington
[31:35] That was a little weird.
[31:37] They didn't do that
[31:38] in this movie.
Elliott Kalan
[31:38] No.
[31:39] Raul Julia is an
[31:39] interesting case
[31:40] because he's a very
[31:41] good actor
[31:41] that nobody can seem
[31:42] to remember any of
[31:43] the movies that he made.
[31:45] So it's like,
[31:45] Raul Julia,
[31:46] oh, he was a great actor.
[31:47] Adam's Family,
[31:48] Adam's Family of the Values,
[31:50] Kiss of the Spider-Woman,
[31:51] Street Fighter,
[31:52] maybe they don't remember
[31:53] Kiss of the Spider-Woman.
Dan McCoy
[31:54] That was his big,
[31:55] like, prestige.
[31:57] Adam's Family.
[31:58] Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[32:01] Adam's Family is the role
[32:02] he will forever
[32:02] be associated with.
[32:03] Sure.
Dan McCoy
[32:04] No, I was going to say,
[32:05] or Three Penny Opera.
[32:07] We have not talked about
[32:08] Chris Klein's
[32:09] tour de force performance.
[32:11] Yeah, he's fucking
[32:11] incredible in this movie.
[32:13] This is,
Elliott Kalan
[32:14] I didn't realize
[32:14] Chris Klein could play
[32:15] another character,
Stuart Wellington
[32:16] but what a character.
[32:17] You know,
[32:17] you see,
[32:18] you think Chris Klein,
[32:19] you're like,
[32:19] I imagine dopey guy,
[32:21] maybe dopey jock.
[32:22] Sure.
[32:23] Not so in this movie.
Dan McCoy
[32:24] You're,
[32:25] you're,
[32:25] you're,
[32:26] you know,
[32:27] non-union
[32:27] Keanu Reeves.
[32:29] Sure.
[32:30] I like him more
[32:31] than Keanu Reeves.
[32:31] Yeah?
[32:32] Yeah.
[32:33] Hmm.
Stuart Wellington
[32:34] We learned a little bit
[32:35] about Elliot today.
[32:36] Well,
[32:36] I don't like Keanu Reeves
[32:37] very much.
[32:37] Is it,
[32:38] is it like the,
[32:38] the like,
[32:39] eroticism and manly
[32:40] sensuality he brings
[32:41] to the role?
[32:43] Yeah,
Elliott Kalan
[32:43] it's almost,
[32:44] it's the exact opposite
[32:45] of that,
[32:45] actually.
[32:45] Like,
[32:46] he's so bland
[32:47] that he brings,
[32:47] makes blandness
[32:48] into a part of the character
[32:49] almost.
[32:49] What,
[32:50] kind of like Paul Walker?
[32:51] Paul Walker is genuinely bland.
[32:53] Yeah.
[32:53] Okay.
[32:54] But anyway,
[32:54] Chris Klein is trying so hard
Dan McCoy
[32:56] not to be bland
[32:56] in this role.
Elliott Kalan
[32:57] Yeah,
[32:58] Chris Walker as Nash
[32:59] is,
[33:00] he is like constantly
[33:01] moving around in weird ways,
[33:03] looking at things
[33:04] in crazy ways.
Dan McCoy
[33:05] Glowering into the camera.
Elliott Kalan
[33:06] He delivers all of his lines
[33:08] as if they are
[33:08] the wittiest,
[33:10] toughest things
[33:11] that this,
[33:11] like,
[33:12] sarcastic but sexy detective
[33:14] could be saying,
[33:15] you know.
[33:16] He thinks he's in a,
[33:16] like,
[33:17] in a,
[33:17] in a episode of Californication
[33:19] it feels like,
[33:19] you know.
Dan McCoy
[33:20] Well,
[33:20] he also like,
[33:21] the character I think
[33:22] is conceived as if
[33:24] this guy,
[33:24] oh,
[33:25] he hasn't showered
[33:25] in a couple days,
[33:27] you know,
[33:27] he's fished some coffee
[33:28] out of the garbage
[33:30] to drink in the morning,
[33:31] like,
[33:32] he's had five cigarettes
[33:34] before breakfast,
[33:35] but he looks like
[33:36] the Disney version of that,
[33:37] like,
[33:38] he's been scrubbed
[33:39] and then some,
[33:40] like,
[33:40] careful oil
[33:41] has been applied
[33:41] to his hair,
[33:42] you know.
Stuart Wellington
[33:43] And then every once in a while
[33:44] it seems like he's,
[33:45] like,
[33:45] his line delivery
[33:46] feels like he's channeling
[33:47] Sean Hayes or something.
[33:49] It just gets way too
[33:50] offending.
[33:50] You are really obsessed
[33:51] with Sean Hayes.
[33:52] Because he is,
[33:53] that dude is fucking
[33:55] hilarious.
[33:56] You bring up Sean Hayes.
[33:58] He is so funny.
Elliott Kalan
[34:01] There's a great moment
[34:02] where Chris Klein
[34:03] is being sarcastic.
[34:05] They have encountered
[34:06] Chun-Li,
[34:07] she's escaping from
[34:08] the nightclub
[34:08] and she runs through
[34:09] a strip club
[34:09] and while she's there
[34:11] she knocks out
[34:11] a bunch of gunmen
[34:12] by kicking them
[34:13] while swinging around
[34:13] the stripper pole.
[34:15] Again,
Dan McCoy
[34:16] sounds more exciting
[34:17] than it is.
Elliott Kalan
[34:17] Yeah,
[34:18] it's really not.
[34:19] And Moon Bloodgood
[34:20] says to him,
[34:21] like,
[34:22] maybe she's just
[34:22] an angry stripper
[34:23] and Chris Klein's like,
[34:24] oh yeah,
[34:25] an irate pole dancer
[34:27] decided to go ahead!
[34:30] And it's like,
[34:31] sorry,
[34:31] the levels are off the charts.
[34:32] Your hand motions
[34:33] definitely aren't captured.
[34:35] But it's literally like,
[34:37] you were saying
[34:37] when we were watching the movie,
[34:38] it's like the director said,
[34:39] here you're being sarcastic
[34:40] and Chris Klein was like,
[34:41] no, I got it.
[34:42] I've been practicing.
Dan McCoy
[34:43] Yeah,
[34:44] I know how to do this.
[34:45] I got this one,
[34:46] coach.
Elliott Kalan
[34:46] So really,
[34:47] there's a big,
[34:48] like,
[34:49] it is the most
[34:50] ridiculous sarcasm.
Stuart Wellington
[34:53] Oh, yeah.
[34:53] My favorite part
[34:54] was when
[34:55] all the police
[34:56] and Interpol people
[34:57] find out
[34:57] that,
[34:58] you know,
[34:59] the bad guy
[35:00] has been secretly
[35:01] buying up property
[35:02] using his
[35:03] Shell Corporation
[35:04] Esperanto course,
[35:06] Esperanto security,
Dan McCoy
[35:07] and all the police
[35:08] look out the window
[35:09] to the giant tower
Stuart Wellington
[35:10] that says
[35:11] Esperanto security.
[35:12] Right outside
[35:13] of their office.
[35:13] And then he's like,
[35:14] oh my god,
[35:15] they've been buying up property
[35:16] or whatever.
[35:17] They've been
[35:18] lowering
[35:18] the prices
[35:21] and stuff
[35:21] so they can
[35:22] buy it up cheap.
[35:23] Let's get on it!
[35:23] And they all
[35:24] run out the door.
[35:26] Yeah,
[35:26] it's like,
[35:28] where are we going?
[35:28] What are we doing?
[35:29] What happened?
[35:30] Why is...
[35:30] How do we get on it?
[35:32] How did we find this out?
[35:34] Are they running
[35:34] and go find lawyers
[35:35] or something?
Dan McCoy
[35:36] I like to imagine
[35:37] that as soon as they
[35:37] get out of the office,
[35:39] they're talking to each other,
[35:40] it's like,
[35:41] do you know what
[35:41] we're supposed to do?
[35:42] No, I don't.
[35:42] I just thought that
[35:43] it would look good
[35:44] if we ran out.
[35:45] I left my keys in there.
[35:47] I gotta go back.
[35:48] Would it be weird
[35:49] if I went...
[35:50] Maybe I should wait
[35:51] until he leaves.
[35:52] It feels like
Elliott Kalan
[35:53] there are two movies
[35:54] going on here,
[35:54] which is the very boring
[35:55] Chun-Li movie
[35:56] and then the
[35:57] kind of hilarious
[35:59] action cop spoof
[36:00] with Chris Klein
[36:01] and Moon Bloodgood
[36:02] and it's like,
[36:04] I wish it was
[36:05] all that movie.
[36:06] They are in the kind
[36:07] of movie where
[36:07] they show up
[36:09] where the villains'
[36:11] enemies have all
[36:11] been left
[36:12] on the pier
[36:13] with their heads
[36:14] cut off,
[36:14] placed on plates
[36:15] in front of them
[36:16] and they're like,
[36:17] huh,
[36:17] on their own plates
[36:18] and everything.
[36:20] Well,
[36:20] dinner's served.
[36:21] You know,
[36:22] like,
[36:22] all these made-up
[36:23] stupid,
[36:24] crappy,
[36:24] witty jokes
[36:25] and like,
[36:26] the,
[36:26] and they're just
[36:27] really over-the-top
[36:28] and dumb.
[36:29] Like,
[36:29] I wanted to watch,
[36:29] it was almost like
[36:30] someone saw
[36:31] Shoot'em Up
[36:32] and was like,
[36:33] yes,
[36:33] finally someone
[36:34] gets the way
[36:35] an action movie
[36:36] should be taken
[36:36] seriously
[36:37] and decided to
[36:38] add that into
[36:39] Street Fighter,
[36:40] Street Fighter,
[36:41] Legend of Chun-Li.
Dan McCoy
[36:42] Well,
[36:42] I want to address
[36:42] something that you
[36:43] briefly did before
[36:44] which was that,
[36:45] as you said,
[36:46] these are kind of
[36:46] like parallel plot lines
[36:48] and the first time
[36:49] they run into each other
[36:50] is at that,
[36:52] that fight
[36:53] in the strip club
[36:55] and they see each other
[36:56] only briefly
[36:57] before Chun-Li runs out.
[36:59] But in that moment.
[37:00] Well,
[37:01] but they don't know
[37:01] who this woman is
[37:02] at all
[37:03] and then we see
[37:07] Chris Klein
[37:08] on the computer
[37:09] looking her up.
[37:10] As you said,
[37:11] Elliot,
[37:11] he must have
[37:11] Googled her image
[37:12] since he just has
[37:14] her face in his head,
[37:16] not her name.
Elliott Kalan
[37:16] like he scanned
[37:17] his brain
[37:18] and put that picture
[37:19] into the computer
[37:20] and said,
[37:20] find this picture.
[37:21] Right.
Dan McCoy
[37:22] And so he sees
[37:23] an article about her
[37:23] being a pianist.
Elliott Kalan
[37:25] A respected pianist.
Dan McCoy
[37:27] Who has disappeared.
[37:29] And then later on...
[37:29] Every time they look
Elliott Kalan
[37:30] up the news
[37:31] in this movie,
[37:33] it is on the
[37:34] worst,
[37:34] ugliest,
[37:35] designed,
[37:36] like,
[37:36] newspaper,
[37:37] fake website.
Dan McCoy
[37:37] The biggest website
[37:38] is, like,
[37:39] all open white space
[37:41] rather than real website
[37:42] which would be
[37:43] a bunch of ads
[37:44] all over the place.
Stuart Wellington
[37:44] Big red block letters.
[37:46] Because they make
[37:46] all this big deal
[37:47] about how,
[37:48] like,
[37:49] secretive
[37:49] this Shadow Lau
[37:51] corporation is
[37:52] and the bad guy
[37:53] Bison.
[37:54] But of course,
[37:55] Chun-Li goes to,
[37:56] like,
[37:56] her local,
[37:57] like,
[37:57] library,
[37:58] internet cafe
[37:59] or something,
[38:00] immediately just Googles,
[38:02] I'm guessing,
[38:02] Shadow Lau or something,
[38:04] and immediately
[38:05] the fucking
[38:05] Neil McDonough's
[38:06] face pops up.
Elliott Kalan
[38:07] On a newspaper,
[38:08] there's, like,
[38:08] Esperanto Corps
[38:09] buying lots of property.
[38:11] Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[38:12] But anyway,
[38:12] these two main characters
[38:14] don't know each other
[38:15] at all,
[38:16] and they've just
[38:17] run into each other
[38:18] face to face once
[38:19] and then Chris Klein
[38:19] She probably doesn't
[38:20] even know who he,
[38:21] like,
[38:22] that he's a cop.
[38:23] Yeah.
[38:23] And then all of a sudden
[38:24] at the end of the movie
[38:25] he looks like a cop.
[38:27] Yeah.
[38:27] At the end of the movie,
[38:28] all of a sudden,
[38:29] she shows up
[38:30] in his apartment
[38:31] and is like,
[38:32] I'm gonna go down
[38:33] to the docks
[38:33] and take these guys down.
[38:34] I need some backup.
[38:36] And he's like,
[38:36] alright,
Stuart Wellington
[38:37] sure,
[38:38] whatever,
[38:38] I'm on board.
[38:39] I think he said it
[38:40] probably a little bit
[38:41] wittier
[38:42] with like a weird
[38:43] leer on his face.
[38:44] Sure.
[38:45] Or a scowl.
[38:47] Oh, God.
[38:48] Great movie.
Dan McCoy
[38:50] Oh, it is a really stupid movie.
Stuart Wellington
[38:51] I think you really
[38:52] summed it up best
[38:53] in that this movie
[38:54] only makes sense
[38:54] because you've seen
[38:55] other movies.
[38:57] Like, so many decisions.
Elliott Kalan
[38:58] The plot is so,
[38:59] is by the numbers,
[39:00] but it's like they,
[39:01] it's so by the numbers
[39:02] they didn't bother
[39:03] to hit all the numbers.
[39:04] You know.
[39:05] Yeah.
[39:05] And they're just like,
[39:06] ah, the audience
[39:07] knows how movies work.
[39:09] They'll fill in the gaps.
Dan McCoy
[39:10] Yeah.
[39:11] Okay, so we're running
[39:11] over time,
[39:12] so we should do
[39:13] our final judgments
[39:13] really fast.
[39:14] Sure.
[39:15] And move on.
Elliott Kalan
[39:15] We had a lot more
[39:16] to say about this
Dan McCoy
[39:17] than I thought we would.
[39:18] So.
[39:19] Is bad.
[39:20] Yeah.
[39:20] Is this a good bad movie,
[39:21] a bad bad movie,
[39:22] or a movie that you
[39:22] kind of liked in some way?
[39:23] I will go with Elliot
[39:25] in the sense that
[39:25] if this movie was all
[39:27] about Chris Klein,
[39:28] I would think it was hilarious.
[39:30] It would be a good bad movie.
[39:31] Like, because
[39:31] it is the worst performance
[39:33] I've seen
[39:34] in a major release film
[39:36] that I can remember.
[39:37] And it's hilarious.
[39:38] But everything with
[39:39] our actual main character
[39:41] is boring, boring, boring.
[39:43] So that's what I have
[39:43] to say about it.
Stuart Wellington
[39:44] Yeah.
[39:44] Bad, bad.
[39:45] I agree.
[39:46] I'm going to go good bad
[39:47] on this one because
[39:47] Whoa!
[39:48] Because everything
[39:50] about this movie
[39:51] is so stupid
[39:52] and terrible
[39:53] that it makes it
[39:55] kind of fun to watch it
[39:56] because it's so dumb.
[39:57] Okay, it was a good movie
[39:58] to make fun of.
[39:59] I'll give you that.
[39:59] Yeah, that's...
[40:00] And it's...
[40:00] Oh, what were you going to say?
[40:01] That's all I was going to say.
Elliott Kalan
[40:02] And it's only 95 minutes long
[40:03] so it's not like
[40:04] 7 pounds
[40:05] which was roughly
[40:06] 18 hours long.
Stuart Wellington
[40:07] Yeah.
[40:08] And felt like
Dan McCoy
[40:09] 49 hours long.
[40:11] So before we get
[40:12] into our recommendations
[40:13] we should
[40:13] talk about the
[40:15] contest.
[40:17] The flop of the flopper
[40:18] contest.
[40:19] Sure.
Elliott Kalan
[40:19] The contest.
[40:20] The classic Seinfeld episode.
[40:22] Yeah.
[40:22] That's been sweeping
[40:23] the nation.
Dan McCoy
[40:25] We got a record
[40:26] turnout of entries
[40:28] this year
[40:28] in the contest.
[40:29] I think we got
[40:30] one and then
[40:31] one guy who maybe
[40:32] was entering
[40:32] but didn't make it clear.
[40:34] And so
[40:34] congratulations Dash.
[40:37] You've won the
[40:38] contest.
[40:39] Wait, did you say Nash?
Elliott Kalan
[40:40] No.
[40:40] Chris Klein's
[40:41] great character
[40:42] from The Legend of Chun-Li?
Dan McCoy
[40:43] No, I said Dash
[40:44] the character
[40:44] from The Incredibles.
[40:45] Oh, okay.
[40:46] Never mind.
[40:47] Congratulations Dash.
[40:48] If you're out there
[40:49] get in touch with us
[40:50] at theflophousepodcast
[40:51] at gmail.com
[40:53] Do what you can
[40:55] to prove to me
[40:56] that you're not
[40:56] a crazy person
[40:57] since we are going
[40:58] to invite you
[40:59] to spend time with us.
[41:01] Yeah, or be crazy.
[41:02] Yeah.
[41:03] And we'll work out
[41:05] the details
[41:06] of you
[41:07] coming
[41:08] for one of these podcasts.
[41:09] Hanging out.
[41:10] Yeah.
[41:10] Yeah.
[41:10] Seeing how the magic happens.
Elliott Kalan
[41:13] Yeah.
[41:13] Oh, I can taste
[41:14] the Popeyes already.
[41:15] Maybe he'll get lucky
[41:16] and get to watch
Dan McCoy
[41:19] the Wolverine movie
[41:20] with us.
Elliott Kalan
[41:21] Yeah, we could always
[41:22] put a hold on that one
[41:23] until...
[41:23] Yeah, I can't wait.
[41:25] We can see Wolverine
[41:27] briefly as a Civil War soldier
[41:28] in the opening credits.
[41:31] Oh, stop teasing me.
Dan McCoy
[41:33] So now we should
[41:34] talk about movies
[41:35] that we actually
[41:36] liked in some way.
[41:37] Okay.
[41:38] Recommendations.
[41:39] Anyone want to start?
Stuart Wellington
[41:41] Yeah, sure.
[41:42] I was really sick last week.
[41:44] So I was, you know,
[41:46] I was watching some movies
[41:47] and I watched
[41:48] the movie Double Impact
[41:50] starring Jean-Claude Van Damme
[41:52] in both of the starring roles.
[41:54] Mm-hmm.
[41:55] Yeah.
[41:56] And Bolo Young
[41:57] is the bad guy.
[41:59] There's some good fighting.
[42:02] There's a couple
[42:03] pretty good boob shots.
[42:05] Sure.
[42:05] All together.
[42:06] Yeah, all together.
[42:07] Like, and I kind of
[42:08] built those boobs
[42:09] that boob shot up
[42:10] in my head
[42:10] when I was a kid.
[42:11] You built those boobs?
[42:12] Yeah.
[42:12] I built them up
[42:13] in my head.
[42:14] I didn't, like,
[42:14] build them out of Legos
[42:15] or, like, paper
[42:17] papier-mache.
[42:18] Uh-huh.
[42:20] But, yeah, you know,
[42:22] it was a good flick.
[42:24] All right.
[42:24] Thumbs up.
Elliott Kalan
[42:27] That's not the one with...
[42:28] Double Impact.
[42:29] What's the...
[42:29] Is it Maximum...
[42:30] What's the one
[42:31] with Species in it?
Dan McCoy
[42:32] Maximum Overdrive.
[42:33] What?
Elliott Kalan
[42:34] What's the one
[42:34] with the girl
[42:34] from Species in it
[42:35] with Jean-Claude Van Damme?
[42:37] I have no idea.
[42:38] Not Double Impact,
[42:39] though, right?
[42:39] No.
[42:40] Okay.
[42:40] Maybe Lionheart?
[42:42] Yeah.
[42:43] Oh, it's the quest.
[42:44] That's what it is.
[42:45] Sure.
[42:46] The Legionnaire.
[42:47] It's like Maximum Blowhard
[42:48] or something.
[42:49] Okay.
[42:50] I haven't seen that one.
[42:51] You're thinking of Lorenzo's Oil.
Dan McCoy
[42:53] Lorenzo's Oil.
Elliott Kalan
[42:54] No, not Sudden Death.
[42:55] Well, anyway,
[42:56] it doesn't matter.
[42:56] Walk in the clouds.
[42:57] Uh-huh.
[42:58] Walk in the...
[42:59] Jean-Claude Van Damme
[43:00] in a walk in the...
[43:01] Like water for chocolate.
[43:02] Death of a salesman.
[43:04] Like water for chocolate.
Dan McCoy
[43:06] So I was sort of sick today,
[43:09] so I had a little extra time.
Elliott Kalan
[43:11] You guys were both sick.
[43:12] Did you guys have a touch
[43:12] of the swine flu?
Dan McCoy
[43:14] Well, we made out.
[43:15] Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[43:16] Oh.
[43:16] The mumps.
Stuart Wellington
[43:17] No, I mean,
[43:18] I don't think I had the swine flu.
[43:19] Mine was more pooping-based.
Dan McCoy
[43:21] Yeah.
[43:22] Mine's...
[43:22] Swine poop.
[43:23] Mine's totally sinus.
[43:24] No, it's not out.
Stuart Wellington
[43:25] Yeah.
[43:26] So I don't think we had the same thing
[43:27] because I just pooped a lot.
[43:29] Did you?
[43:29] Did you?
Dan McCoy
[43:30] Did you poop a lot, Dan?
[43:31] I would like to just recommend my movie,
[43:33] which is...
[43:34] It's called Poop,
[43:35] and it's...
[43:36] I watched...
[43:37] Everybody poops the movie.
[43:40] It's...
Stuart Wellington
[43:40] Star and Keanu Reeves.
[43:41] 89 minutes of just people sitting on the floor.
[43:45] It's like one of those
[43:45] Faces of Death things,
[43:46] but with pooping.
Dan McCoy
[43:48] I watched Trick or Treat
[43:49] like you did last week, Stuart.
[43:52] Yeah, man.
[43:52] And I enjoyed it.
[43:53] I think I enjoyed it even more than you did.
[43:55] What?
[43:56] But I'm not recommending it
[43:57] because that would be a redundant recommendation.
[43:59] Sure.
[44:00] Repeat recommendation.
[44:02] I also watched Roman Polanski's Repulsion,
[44:05] but I don't think that that needs to be recommended to anyone.
[44:08] It's a classic film.
[44:09] A lot of people know about it.
[44:10] A lot of build-up to the movie you're going to recommend.
[44:13] I just don't want to leave anyone out.
[44:15] I don't want Roman Polanski to feel bad
[44:17] that I didn't mention Repulsion.
[44:18] Roman Polanski has a lot to feel bad about.
[44:21] Yeah, well, that's why I don't want to add to it, Elliot.
[44:25] But...
Elliott Kalan
[44:25] Huh-huh.
[44:26] Why did Dan?
[44:27] I mentioned Repulsion.
[44:28] It's not even French.
[44:30] I don't know why he had a French accent.
Dan McCoy
[44:31] Yeah.
[44:32] But I'm going to recommend Vampires.
[44:35] That's Vampires with a Y.
[44:37] It was made during the brief, or not so brief,
[44:41] 1970s craze for lesbian vampire films.
[44:46] And of all the lesbian vampire films I've seen,
[44:49] I think I would place it at the top.
[44:51] Sure.
[44:52] I put it above Vampire Lovers,
[44:55] which is probably number two.
[44:56] What about Embracing the Vampire?
[44:57] Isn't that a little...
[44:58] Above Daughters of Darkness.
[44:59] What about Emmanuel meets Dracula?
[45:01] Which is number three.
[45:02] How does that turn out?
[45:03] Also above Vampiros Lesbos.
[45:05] Emmanuel wins.
Elliott Kalan
[45:05] No shit.
[45:06] It's a pretty weak vampire.
[45:07] A pretty weak Dracula.
[45:08] Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[45:09] But, yeah, I liked it better than those other ones.
Elliott Kalan
[45:12] Didn't Misty Monday make a Dracula movie?
[45:14] Or a vampire movie?
Dan McCoy
[45:15] Daughters of Dracula, I think.
[45:17] Oh, you said that already.
[45:18] I guess I...
[45:19] No, I guess that would be the fifth lesbian vampire film
[45:21] that I've seen.
[45:23] But of all of those...
[45:24] Where does that one rank?
[45:25] That's probably number five.
[45:26] It's not...
[45:27] No, that's too bad.
[45:28] It's more of a soft-core porn film
[45:31] than a vampire movie.
[45:32] Still counts.
[45:32] To be honest.
Stuart Wellington
[45:33] Yeah, I mean, I don't know...
[45:35] I'd like to find out your ranking...
[45:37] Like, how you rank things now.
[45:38] We'll talk about that later.
[45:39] What's the criteria?
[45:39] I'll send you a chart.
Dan McCoy
[45:40] I'll send you an Excel chart after the podcast.
[45:43] But it feels kind of like a hammer horror film,
[45:46] but not as incredibly slow
[45:48] as many hammer horror films can be.
[45:50] Mm-hmm.
Elliott Kalan
[45:51] It's from the same...
[45:52] MC Hammer horror film.
[45:53] Mm-hmm.
Dan McCoy
[45:54] It's from the same period,
[45:56] but it was, I think, a Spanish production
[45:58] that was trying to borrow some of the same feel.
[46:02] And it has a lot of long sequences
[46:05] where nothing happens
[46:06] and it's just atmospheric, but...
[46:08] Keep selling it.
[46:10] In general, I think it's pretty solid.
[46:13] I mean, if you want to see an exploitation film
[46:15] that has a few actual haunting images
[46:18] and also lesbian vampires,
[46:20] I recommend vampires with a Y.
[46:22] Sure.
Elliott Kalan
[46:24] And now, that's V-A-M-P-Y-R-E-S.
[46:27] The title isn't vampires with a Y.
Dan McCoy
[46:29] No.
[46:30] No, it's also not vampires at the Y.
[46:32] That'd be a good movie.
[46:34] A good movie.
[46:34] Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[46:35] I'll recommend two movies.
[46:37] One is in the theaters right now,
[46:39] and that is a movie
[46:41] that a lot of people have not liked,
[46:43] but I did, called Where Wild Things Are,
[46:45] that I thought was very good,
[46:48] very well done.
[46:49] It is not a fun movie
[46:49] and not necessarily enjoyable
[46:52] to sit through at times,
[46:53] but it's a very emotionally honest movie,
[46:56] it feels like,
[46:57] and I like the way they did it a lot.
[46:58] But there are some, like,
[46:59] twee Spike Jonze touches
[47:01] that are kind of irritating.
[47:02] But overall, I said A-plus, kind of.
[47:06] Okay.
[47:06] And the other movie is not in the theaters now
[47:08] and hasn't been for 70 years,
[47:11] and that is John Ford's Stagecoach,
[47:13] which I recently watched again
[47:16] so that I could edit it down
[47:17] to about seven minutes,
[47:19] and watching it again,
[47:20] I was like,
[47:20] this is a really good movie.
[47:21] Like, I'd forgotten how fun it is,
[47:23] and it's a really fantastic movie.
Dan McCoy
[47:25] That also has an Irishman in it.
Elliott Kalan
[47:29] I don't know.
[47:30] Does Stagecoach?
[47:31] Most of John Ford's movies do.
[47:33] They have Victor McLaughlin being like...
Dan McCoy
[47:34] I assumed that the drunk was an Irishman.
Elliott Kalan
[47:36] Oh, Thomas Mitchell,
[47:37] the drunk doctor?
[47:38] Yeah.
[47:39] No way.
[47:40] He's probably of English stock.
[47:42] Okay.
Stuart Wellington
[47:43] Sure.
[47:43] So now what do we do?
[47:45] Now we sign off, buddy.
[47:46] Okay.
[47:47] You guys don't have any
[47:48] wacky things to plug?
[47:49] I do.
[47:50] Yeah, what are you plugging?
[47:50] You want me to plug something?
[47:51] Sure, plug something quick.
Elliott Kalan
[47:52] Well, this isn't for like another month
[47:54] after recording this,
[47:55] but my next film screening
[47:57] at the 92nd Street Wide Tribeca,
[47:59] December 2nd,
[48:00] which is a Wednesday at 8 p.m.,
[48:02] I'll be showing
[48:02] The Miracle of Morgan's Creek,
[48:04] Preston Sturgis' funniest movie,
[48:06] bar none,
[48:07] with special guest Christian Schall
[48:09] of Flight of the Conchords
[48:10] What?
[48:10] to talk with me about the movie.
[48:13] So again, that's December 2nd,
[48:15] 8 p.m.,
[48:16] 92nd Street Wide Tribeca
[48:18] if you're in the New York area,
[48:19] and if you look it up
[48:21] on 92ytribeca.org,
[48:25] I think is the website,
[48:27] or 92ytribeca.org.
Dan McCoy
[48:28] I don't know why you feel
[48:29] like you need to put this
[48:30] in the thing.
[48:31] I will add a link to it
[48:33] on the website
[48:33] and it'll make it a lot easier.
Stuart Wellington
[48:35] Some people know about it.
[48:36] I don't know.
[48:36] Sure, and I'm going to plug
[48:37] Charlene's Bar,
[48:39] which is where I go drink
[48:41] after recording these things.
[48:43] So if you want to find Stuart,
[48:44] that's where the place to go.
[48:46] Charlene's Bar.
[48:47] Charlene's Bar,
[48:48] Flatbush in Brooklyn,
[48:49] Flatbush Avenue
[48:50] between Park and Sterling.
Elliott Kalan
[48:52] Yeah, wow.
[48:53] Dan,
[48:54] do you want to plug
[48:55] your office or something?
Dan McCoy
[48:58] My sketch group
[48:59] has a show
[49:01] in Long Island City
[49:02] that's coming up
[49:03] and that we will soon have
[49:05] a monthly show
[49:06] at the Magnet Theater,
[49:07] but I will put links
[49:09] to those on the website.
[49:10] I will not burn up
[49:11] extra tape
[49:11] talking about those right now.
[49:12] tape.
Elliott Kalan
[49:13] This is being recorded
[49:14] on a computer.
Dan McCoy
[49:15] Yeah, but...
[49:16] It's on the internet,
[49:16] isn't it?
[49:17] As I've pointed out
[49:17] several times,
[49:18] my computer only
[49:20] takes a certain amount
[49:21] of stuff before it breaks.
[49:23] That's right.
[49:23] You guys are pushing it
[49:24] right now.
[49:25] So,
[49:25] I would like to sign off.
[49:27] My name is Dan McCoy.
[49:29] I'm Stuart Wellington.
Stuart Wellington
[49:30] I'm Elliot Kalin, too.
[49:32] Good night.
Dan McCoy
[49:33] Bye.
[49:33] Bye.
[49:34] Elliot Kalin, too.
[49:35] Is it Elliot Kalin,
[49:36] as well?
[49:37] So...
Elliott Kalan
[49:37] I'll let the listeners
[49:38] puzzle that one out.
Stuart Wellington
[49:44] Are we all going to dress
[49:45] it as sexy guestbusters?
Dan McCoy
[49:46] I'm Stuart.
[49:47] I'm talking.
[49:48] Blah, blah, blah.
Elliott Kalan
[49:49] Say something about your penis.
[49:51] I'm Dan.
[49:51] I'm also talking.
[49:52] I never talk about
[49:52] my fucking penis.
Dan McCoy
[49:55] Gloria Stewart or something.
Elliott Kalan
[49:57] Well, I never talk about
[49:58] glories, too.
[50:00] I thought you were
[50:01] going to do it like this.
[50:01] I'm Elliot.
[50:02] Blah, blah, blah.
Dan McCoy
[50:03] The mint apparently
[50:04] also has vitamin A,
[50:06] C, E, and zinc.
[50:07] I'm going to take one.
[50:08] Vitamin Z for zinc.
Elliott Kalan
[50:10] Come back, zinc.
[50:11] Come back.
[50:12] Come back.
[50:13] Come back, zinc.
[50:14] Zinc.
[50:15] Zinc.
[50:15] Zinc.
[50:16] Zinc.
[50:16] Zinc.
Dan McCoy
[50:21] It's Dan here.
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In this episode

Speakers
Dan McCoy 18mElliott Kalan 18mStuart Wellington 13m

Description

0:00 - 0:37 - Introduction and theme0:38 - 39:10- We dive right in and discuss a movie based on a video game character that was only popular because preteen boys are too scared to talk to real girls - Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun-Li.39:11 - 40:10 - Final judgments 40:11 - 41:33 - A CONTEST WINNER ANNOUNCED, for the contest everyone (even the hosts) forgot was happening.41:34 - 47:47 - The sad bastards recommend.  47:48 - 50:17 - Plugs, goodbyes, theme and outtakes.50:18 - 51:17 - Station identification.

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