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The Flop House: Episode #51 - X-Men Origins: Wolverine
Transcript
Dan McCoy
[0:00]
We are the best at what we do.
[0:02]
And what we do is watch X-Men Origins Wolverine with our contest winner.
[0:30]
Hey everyone and welcome to the Flophouse. I'm Dan McCoy.
[0:35]
I'm Stuart Wellington.
Elliott Kalan
[0:36]
My name is Elliot Kalin and that is who I am.
Dan McCoy
[0:39]
I'm Dash Coombs.
[0:40]
That's right. Our contest winner, Dash, is here with us.
Elliott Kalan
[0:44]
Welcome, Dash.
[0:45]
In my apartment.
S4
[0:48]
It's great to be here.
Dan McCoy
[0:49]
I don't know what that was.
[0:51]
I overcame my fear that he was a crazy person who wanted to wear us as skin suits.
[0:55]
You were really nervous.
[0:56]
Yeah, you talked about that a lot.
Elliott Kalan
[0:57]
I think you kind of wanted it after a while.
Dan McCoy
[1:00]
I'm inviting someone into my home.
[1:02]
You guys aren't. This isn't your home.
Elliott Kalan
[1:03]
I mean, I think you're underestimating Elliot's physical prowess.
[1:08]
Well, I go into what's called a berserker rage.
[1:10]
Yeah.
[1:11]
In which I just see red and when I wake up there's bodies everywhere.
[1:14]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[1:14]
It's almost like you awaken a manimal inside of you.
[1:17]
Yeah, the other side.
[1:19]
Sure.
Elliott Kalan
[1:19]
The other within.
[1:20]
Yeah, that makes sense.
[1:21]
It's almost like I'm more beast than man at times.
Stuart Wellington
[1:23]
Really? No shit.
[1:24]
Yeah.
[1:24]
I don't know how.
[1:25]
Can you smell better than a normal person?
[1:27]
Oh, yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[1:27]
Heightened smell, hearing, sight.
[1:29]
Yeah.
[1:30]
Touch, taste, balance, and sense of style.
[1:33]
I got no shit.
[1:34]
Yeah, heightened sense of style.
[1:36]
Okay, no kidding.
Dan McCoy
[1:37]
I have no idea how I'm going to segue into the movie we watched tonight.
[1:40]
The things you've been saying.
[1:42]
There's absolutely no.
[1:43]
So I'm just going to say that we watched.
Stuart Wellington
[1:44]
Yeah, they probably know what movie it is.
Dan McCoy
[1:46]
I mean, it's on the name of them.
[1:47]
It's written on the entry.
[1:48]
Yeah, it's on the internet.
[1:49]
Okay, fine.
[1:50]
We watched X-Men Origins.
Elliott Kalan
[1:52]
Wolverine.
Dan McCoy
[1:53]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[1:55]
That's which X-Men Origins.
[1:56]
Colon Wolverine.
[1:57]
So, Elliot.
[1:59]
Because you're executing the program file.
[2:03]
Wolverine.
[2:04]
Colon blackback slash Wolverine.
[2:07]
Dot exe.
Dan McCoy
[2:10]
Elliot, you were known to America as the man who explained Adamantium to Jon Stewart.
[2:15]
Oh, I forgot about that.
[2:16]
So clearly this must be your favorite movie.
[2:19]
Yeah, this is...
[2:19]
I forgot about this television appearance.
[2:22]
This national TV appearance.
Elliott Kalan
[2:23]
Yes, this is my favorite movie for that reason.
[2:27]
I will tell you that my explanation of what Adamantium was, which is literally just saying
[2:31]
the name of it, felt more accurate to the character Wolverine than this film.
[2:35]
Yeah.
[2:36]
How so?
[2:38]
It seems like they've taken some...
[2:40]
Not liberties is the wrong word.
[2:41]
It seems like they've condensed about 20 years of Wolverine stories into an hour and 45 minute film
[2:47]
and then added in a couple dashes of made up bullshit.
Stuart Wellington
[2:50]
Do we have to point out that, like, we've all read a shitload of Wolverine comic books?
Elliott Kalan
[2:56]
I think you just did point it out.
[2:58]
I think that's important to know.
[2:59]
You fell into their trap.
[3:00]
Yeah, so the readers, the listeners at home, we were all very familiar with this character
[3:05]
before we saw the movie.
[3:06]
Yeah.
[3:06]
We didn't pick him up from the X-Men movies or from his late night talk show.
Dan McCoy
[3:11]
I, for one, was disappointed that this was not an adaptation of the limited series Kitty Pryde
[3:16]
and Wolverine.
Elliott Kalan
[3:16]
Oh, you were the only one.
[3:18]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[3:19]
Yeah.
[3:21]
Dash, you actually saw a part of this movie before, you said, and you fell asleep in it.
[3:25]
I did, yeah.
[3:26]
Which part?
S4
[3:27]
Which part did I fall asleep in?
[3:28]
Yeah.
[3:28]
Which part did I see?
[3:29]
I fell asleep about 20 minutes in, in a theater.
[3:33]
Whoa.
[3:34]
Whoa.
[3:34]
Whoa.
[3:34]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[3:35]
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say that this is a theater that's a converted
[3:39]
sauna.
[3:40]
It's just so muggy in the theater.
[3:42]
Well, I got to see it for free, so I didn't feel as bad about it.
[3:44]
Oh, okay.
[3:44]
There's a carbon monoxide leak.
[3:46]
That's fair.
[3:46]
And, uh...
[3:48]
Yeah, you're...
Dan McCoy
[3:48]
Fixed it midway through.
[3:49]
You're wearing a Captain America shirt, so we have to assume that you had a certain level
[3:53]
of excitement to see this movie.
[3:55]
A certain.
[3:56]
A certain level.
[3:57]
I mean, it's not like it was a Captain America movie.
[3:59]
Oh, no.
[3:59]
Of course not.
Stuart Wellington
[4:00]
And the funny thing is, like, we all like comics, guys, and yet we waited this long to
[4:04]
see this fucking movie.
[4:05]
The other night, I was out with two girls, both of whom...
[4:08]
At the same time, Stuart?
[4:09]
At the same time, fellows.
[4:11]
And, uh...
[4:12]
I'm not going to go into too much because I'm a gentleman, but I do want to point out that
[4:17]
at some point, the movie Wolverine, you know, X-Men Origins or whatever it was called that
[4:23]
we watched today, the subject came up and I was the only one of the three who hadn't
[4:28]
seen it yet.
[4:28]
Wow.
[4:29]
Well.
[4:30]
So...
[4:31]
Two ladies.
[4:31]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[4:32]
And we all know that...
[4:33]
Ladies like Wolverine.
[4:33]
We all know that ladies...
[4:34]
I think it's because of that Australian film.
[4:35]
LL Cool W.
[4:37]
Let's just spread stereotypes about women.
[4:39]
They don't read comics, so...
[4:41]
Well, in my experience, they don't that much.
[4:42]
Okay.
Stuart Wellington
[4:43]
Non-comic book reading women were out with me.
[4:46]
We have to assume their boyfriends dragged them to see it.
[4:47]
Because I generally don't go out with comic book reading women.
Dan McCoy
[4:50]
Whoa, whoa.
[4:50]
Wow.
[4:51]
Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa.
[4:53]
I have to assume you're insulting a large contingent of our audience.
[4:56]
I'm insulting myself.
[4:57]
Okay.
Stuart Wellington
[4:58]
Because I judge women not based on their reading preferences.
[5:02]
On the content of the character.
[5:03]
Yeah, I don't.
Elliott Kalan
[5:04]
Right.
[5:05]
The content of their...
Stuart Wellington
[5:06]
What?
[5:07]
...bra size, I have to imagine.
[5:08]
Is what you judge them by.
Elliott Kalan
[5:09]
Uh, I think I should slap you, LL.
[5:14]
But no, we're all familiar with this character of Wolverine.
[5:19]
Yeah.
[5:19]
Logan, as they call him.
[5:20]
He's a roguish fellow.
[5:21]
Patch.
[5:21]
Patch is sometimes alias.
[5:24]
When in Madripoor.
Stuart Wellington
[5:26]
That country doesn't exist, right?
[5:28]
No, it's not real.
[5:28]
Yeah.
[5:29]
Okay, isn't it just like an old-timey risk name of a country?
[5:32]
It's a Chris Claremont fantasy country.
Elliott Kalan
[5:35]
Okay.
Stuart Wellington
[5:36]
Yeah, Wolverine.
[5:37]
It's like a hyper-advanced ninja populated country, right?
Elliott Kalan
[5:41]
Well, no, it's not hyper-advanced.
Stuart Wellington
[5:43]
It's like a sleepy 30s backwater.
[5:45]
Oh, yeah.
Dan McCoy
[5:45]
You're going down, like, a hole of very specific comic references that don't have to do...
Elliott Kalan
[5:51]
We didn't talk about, like, Lila Chaney or anything like that.
[5:54]
Yeah, and we weren't talking about...
[5:55]
She's the transdimensional rock star from the X-Men comics.
Dan McCoy
[5:58]
Okay.
[5:59]
But Wolverine.
[6:00]
Love the Wolverine.
[6:00]
The Wolverine Origins.
[6:01]
We all know him and love him.
[6:03]
Or X-Men Origins Wolverine.
[6:04]
The adamantium skeleton-clad, be-clawed, healing factor mutant with the crazy hair, the cigar, and a penchant for calling people bub.
Elliott Kalan
[6:19]
And he's, by far, for years, has been the most popular X-Men character.
[6:23]
Sure.
[6:23]
In the movies, as played by Hugh Jackman, who is very much the breakout character, he's a really charismatic character for a number of reasons.
Dan McCoy
[6:31]
And all that was sucked out.
[6:33]
Pretty much.
[6:33]
Eliminated in this telling.
[6:35]
They're like, people love Wolverine so much, if we give them a whole movie devoted to Wolverine, they will just go crazy in the theaters.
[6:42]
They will rip up the seats and start throwing them spirit to give them the most dispiriting version.
Stuart Wellington
[6:47]
They'll buy four tickets for each person.
[6:50]
It'll destroy the economy.
[6:52]
We can't do it.
Elliott Kalan
[6:53]
Wait, did that happen?
[6:55]
Yes.
[6:56]
That's what caused it.
[6:58]
Okay.
[6:59]
But the problem is that Wolverine is like...
[7:01]
That's like destroyed Dubai.
[7:02]
He is a loner and a rebel and goes into rages.
[7:07]
So he does...
[7:08]
Like Kiwi Herman.
[7:09]
Exactly, yeah.
[7:10]
Dottie.
[7:11]
So he, in the X-Men comics, he is the rogue element.
[7:16]
You know, he's a good guy, but he has trouble towing the line.
[7:18]
I thought rogue was a character in the X-Men.
[7:19]
I'm using the word rogue, not the character rogue.
[7:21]
Oh, God.
[7:22]
He has trouble towing the line.
[7:23]
In the X-Men movies, he's that way.
[7:25]
That's...
[7:25]
A lot of times in the comics, they pair him with a young girl or an idealistic character so
[7:30]
that he can play off of that.
[7:32]
Sure.
[7:32]
So that she can be the kind of naive, good-hearted person and he can kind of have trouble staying
[7:37]
completely moral.
Dan McCoy
[7:38]
He's your classic anti-hero.
Elliott Kalan
[7:41]
Exactly.
[7:41]
Except in this movie, they didn't go that way and instead had to make him the nicest of
[7:46]
a group of jerks.
[7:47]
That's true.
[7:49]
Yeah, a boring group of jerks.
[7:50]
Very boring.
[7:51]
If you ever wanted to see...
[7:53]
It's like they flipped through X-Men comics and they were just like, they were like, hmm,
[7:58]
too interesting.
[7:58]
This character's too interesting.
[8:00]
This character's too interesting.
[8:01]
Okay, we'll pick the fat guy and the guy who...
[8:05]
Well, there's no one here who fits the descriptions we need.
[8:08]
So we'll just make up a guy who can teleport and is played by Will.i.am and we'll have a
[8:12]
guy who controls light bulbs.
Stuart Wellington
[8:13]
And I like when they show off this team like this team does a mission.
[8:17]
They make sure to let each guy do something completely by themselves for a while.
[8:21]
To show off their town.
[8:21]
And they're like, okay, tag in.
[8:23]
It's your turn.
[8:24]
Which seems completely unnecessary.
[8:26]
Why didn't they just send one guy to do everything?
[8:28]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[8:28]
Or work as a team in tandem rather than individually.
[8:32]
That's the thing.
[8:33]
They're all bad guys, though.
Elliott Kalan
[8:33]
It was either that or some kind of danger room session scene where they each show off their
[8:38]
power.
[8:38]
Yeah.
[8:39]
That seems kind of like a staple of these kinds of movies.
[8:41]
It's like there's...
[8:42]
Evan Dorkin once told me about a...
[8:45]
Oh, God.
[8:46]
Fucking name dropping.
[8:48]
About the...
[8:49]
That there's always...
[8:50]
I met him too.
Dan McCoy
[8:51]
I mean, I met him through you at your live talk show.
[8:55]
But still.
Elliott Kalan
[8:55]
That was a long time ago.
[8:57]
That there's always the character who has to rush up to a monster for no reason so that
[9:02]
the monster can show you what his power is.
[9:05]
So it's like if there's a monster with like acid hands, then a guy instead of like running
[9:10]
away has to be like, what?
[9:11]
And rush up at the acid hands monster so it can touch him and burn his face off.
[9:15]
That guy's hands are totally weak.
[9:17]
Oh, no.
[9:19]
I'll hit him.
[9:20]
I'll hit him at his most vulnerable point.
[9:21]
His hands.
Stuart Wellington
[9:23]
I got this, guys.
[9:24]
But so this...
[9:25]
His hands.
[9:25]
So powerful and acidic.
Elliott Kalan
[9:26]
So they have this scene where everyone uses their power to like one at a time so you can
[9:31]
see what their powers are.
[9:32]
But like one guy's just really good at shooting guns.
[9:35]
Another guy is just a tough guy.
[9:37]
Another guy controls machines.
[9:38]
So like they're in an elevator and the guy they're up against stops the elevator.
[9:42]
And this guy uses mutant powers to restart the elevator.
[9:45]
Like it's the...
[9:45]
They're really the most boring possible powers.
Stuart Wellington
[9:47]
At least one other character proves that he can climb up walls.
[9:52]
At least one.
Elliott Kalan
[9:53]
All the characters also can do like crouching tiger wire food type stuff.
[9:57]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[9:58]
By the way, guys, I'm still stuck on how you defeat acid hands and I'm betting it's baking
[10:02]
soda.
Elliott Kalan
[10:03]
But anyway...
[10:04]
We need to give...
[10:05]
Baking soda gloves.
Stuart Wellington
[10:07]
It's tricking him to touch another part of his body with his acid hands.
[10:11]
Oh.
[10:12]
Feathered in the nose.
[10:13]
The old Medusa technique.
[10:16]
But uh...
[10:17]
Elliot, we should give...
[10:18]
The Medusa Configuration.
[10:20]
That's a good title for your spy novel.
Elliott Kalan
[10:23]
We should...
[10:24]
The Medusa Configuration.
[10:25]
A Stuart Wellington Adventure.
Dan McCoy
[10:28]
Elliot, we should both...
[10:29]
We should both give the audience, the confused audience a break.
[10:33]
And give Dash the full Flophouse experience.
[10:36]
He's already had Popeyes.
[10:37]
He's already...
[10:38]
Yeah, it was good.
[10:38]
He's already had some beer with Stuart.
[10:40]
And me.
[10:41]
Did he ever.
[10:42]
I bet with Stuart's the...
[10:42]
You drank beer?
[10:43]
Yeah.
[10:45]
I thought that was apple juice.
[10:47]
I thought that was frothy apple juice.
[10:49]
You just drank Chardonnay.
[10:51]
But um...
[10:51]
We should give him the full experience by having you explain the plot to this film.
[10:55]
Sure.
[10:55]
I'm sure.
[10:55]
And also to our audience.
Elliott Kalan
[10:56]
Okay.
[10:57]
Begins...
[10:57]
We're in Canada in the year 1845.
[11:01]
This is not a joke.
[11:02]
And uh...
[11:03]
There's a young boy named James...
[11:05]
Logan, I guess?
[11:07]
Wolverine.
[11:07]
And uh...
[11:08]
James Wolverine-ington.
[11:10]
Within minutes, this sickly boy, we see him watch his father get murdered.
[11:15]
Then he kills the man who murdered his father.
[11:18]
Finds out the man who murdered his father is his actual father.
[11:20]
Which by the way does not play into the film.
[11:22]
No, never.
[11:23]
And then he has...
[11:24]
And then he finds he has bone claws that come out of the backs of his hands.
[11:27]
The son of the man he just found his father, Victor Creed, uh...
[11:31]
Is...
[11:32]
Has like claw fingernails.
[11:34]
And he says, we're brothers.
[11:36]
We gotta work together and protect each other.
[11:38]
Cut to the title, opening titles, which shows them fighting through the next hundred years of wars.
Dan McCoy
[11:44]
It's like the title sequence to Watchmen except for only focused on wars.
Elliott Kalan
[11:48]
And not very good.
[11:49]
So it's like it shows them fighting in the Civil War, World War I, World War II, Vietnam.
[11:55]
And it's never explained, one, why they went to the United States.
[11:59]
I would like to see them in like a civil rights rally.
Stuart Wellington
[12:01]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[12:02]
Like the big stock market crash.
[12:04]
Like one of them jumps out the window and the other one picks them up.
[12:08]
Waiting online to see Wizard of Oz in the theaters.
Dan McCoy
[12:11]
One of them on top of a flagpole.
Elliott Kalan
[12:13]
Yeah.
[12:14]
Dancing on the wing of a biplane.
[12:16]
Yeah.
[12:17]
Shooting Al Capone with Elliot Ness.
[12:21]
All good stuff.
[12:22]
See, I would have loved...
[12:22]
If X-Men Origins Wolverine had taken place in like the 60s, I think it would have been a better movie.
[12:28]
But instead they like...
[12:30]
They're like, listen.
[12:31]
Like Mad Men style.
[12:32]
Yeah, kind of.
[12:33]
But like, listen.
[12:35]
They did a lot of exciting stuff over the last 150 years.
[12:38]
Let's not talk about it.
[12:40]
Let's talk about this other thing.
[12:42]
But it means that like...
[12:43]
You're just like, alright, I guess they enlisted in the U.S. Army.
[12:46]
And then the Army never realized that these same two guys were there for over 100 years.
[12:52]
Because in Vietnam, they have a falling out.
[12:55]
And they kill some regular American soldiers in a fight.
[13:00]
And their firing squad tries to kill them, but they can't.
[13:03]
Because they have their healing powers.
[13:05]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[13:05]
They're impervious to bullets.
[13:06]
That's never really addressed.
Elliott Kalan
[13:07]
A mysterious colonel or general or something named Striker, who is the villain from X-Men 2, you may remember.
Dan McCoy
[13:12]
They're played by Danny Houston, best known for playing creepy middle-aged men and everything.
Elliott Kalan
[13:19]
He shows up and says, why don't you join my team of ragtag mutant monsters?
[13:24]
And they do, basically, I guess for the next 25 years.
[13:28]
Although nobody seems to age from Vietnam until, I guess, the 80s?
[13:32]
I don't know.
[13:33]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[13:33]
We don't really know when present day in this film is, by the way.
[13:37]
It's unclear.
[13:37]
They do their best to kind of fudge the time.
Elliott Kalan
[13:40]
Everything about it seems to say it's happening right now.
[13:42]
But then Cyclops is a young boy.
[13:45]
Or is like a teenager at one point.
[13:47]
So it had to have been at least like 10 years ago.
[13:50]
But there's just no historical markers whatsoever.
[13:53]
They go out of their way to avoid them.
[13:55]
Maybe they're going for a mythic, timeless quality.
[13:58]
Sure.
[13:58]
Like in the movie Legend.
[14:00]
Exactly, yeah.
[14:01]
Just like the movie Legend.
[14:03]
Which could have taken place at any time.
[14:05]
At least not.
[14:06]
In a world of goblins and unicorns.
[14:09]
But so, what happens, basically?
[14:13]
They join this ragtag team of monsters.
[14:16]
There's, which is on the lookout for this metal called adamantium.
[14:20]
Which was discovered somewhere in Africa.
[14:23]
In the African village, the team goes kill crazy.
[14:25]
And Wolverine says, I've had enough of this.
[14:27]
I'm not going to be a killer anymore.
[14:29]
Leaves, becomes a hatchet man out in the woods.
[14:32]
Or an axe man, I guess is what you call him.
[14:34]
Yeah.
[14:34]
A lumberjack.
[14:35]
A lumberjack.
[14:36]
Yeah, a lumberjack.
[14:36]
Whatever.
[14:37]
You know.
[14:37]
He doesn't fire people.
[14:39]
Let's make it clear.
Dan McCoy
[14:40]
This is not up in the air with George Clooney.
Elliott Kalan
[14:42]
The next shot is Wolverine in a suit being like, we've got to cut your staff by 30%.
[14:46]
And he's got a ponytail.
[14:49]
He's going bald in the front, but he has a ponytail in the back.
[14:52]
So he's got a skillet.
[14:53]
Yeah, yeah.
[14:54]
Skillet.
[14:55]
He's got a skillet.
[14:57]
And so anyway, he goes, he lives out with his girlfriend in the woods as a lumberjack.
[15:05]
Uh-oh.
[15:06]
Striker and Sabretooth find him.
[15:08]
Sabretooth kills his girlfriend.
[15:10]
He wants revenge.
[15:11]
So he says to Striker, okay.
[15:13]
Striker says, Wolverine's, sorry, all these stupid names.
[15:18]
Striker says, Sabretooth, your brother Victor is on the loose.
[15:21]
We can't stop him, but we can give you the tools to stop him.
[15:24]
And Wolverine says, I want revenge.
[15:26]
Just point me at him and I'll kill him.
[15:27]
So they fill his bones with adamantium so they're unbreakable.
[15:30]
That makes sense.
[15:32]
That's the logical first step.
[15:33]
But then they reveal that Sabretooth was working.
[15:36]
Well, actually, because he seems to know it, but then he doesn't know it.
[15:39]
Wolverine runs away.
[15:41]
He seems to realize that obviously Sabretooth is working with Striker.
[15:44]
But then, so he runs away naked in the woods with his claws.
[15:49]
And then he holds up with an old man and woman for about a day.
[15:53]
They give him a leather jacket and a motorcycle because it's an origin story.
[15:56]
So we have to learn how every fucking piece of clothing he ever wore got into his wardrobe and his bag of tricks.
Dan McCoy
[16:02]
We never learned why he smokes cigars, Elliot.
[16:05]
No, oh, I wish.
[16:06]
That's a missing piece.
[16:06]
There's a bar where it's like, oh, I've never had one of these before.
[16:08]
Interesting.
[16:09]
What do they call cigars?
[16:11]
They're like big cigarettes.
Stuart Wellington
[16:15]
Well, wait.
[16:15]
So he should be inventing it?
[16:18]
Oh, this cigarette isn't big enough for me.
Dan McCoy
[16:21]
He went down to Cuba.
[16:23]
He was like in the CIA.
[16:24]
You don't know that story.
Elliott Kalan
[16:26]
This bay?
[16:27]
It should be called the Bay of Pigs.
[16:29]
Basically, Wolverine tracks down his old allies, the blob, Fred J. Dukes, and Will.i.am, the character of, what was his name?
[16:38]
John Wraith, maybe?
[16:39]
Wraith, that's what it was.
[16:40]
He was a teleporter.
[16:41]
His teleportation powers.
[16:42]
They tell him, Striker is kidnapping mutants and doing experiments on a secret island.
[16:47]
Only one mutant's ever escaped the island.
[16:49]
His name?
[16:50]
Remy Lebo.
[16:51]
They call him Gambit.
[16:53]
Uh-oh!
[16:54]
The worst character in X-Men history shows up.
[16:57]
How can he be the worst character, Elliot?
[16:58]
He's a ninja cowboy pirate.
[17:01]
And he's Cajun.
[17:02]
And he's Cajun.
[17:03]
He's terrible in every way.
Stuart Wellington
[17:06]
He's got purple body armor, as you pointed out.
Elliott Kalan
[17:08]
Yeah, and purple and pink body armor under a trench coat and some kind of headband with his hair flops over.
[17:13]
In the movie, he doesn't have a heavy accent, but in the comics, he says, like,
[17:17]
The ting is mon chéri.
[17:19]
Oh, you know.
[17:20]
He looks like a step aerobics instructor.
[17:22]
Oh, Rory, I love you.
Dan McCoy
[17:22]
We cannot touch each other.
Elliott Kalan
[17:24]
Yeah.
[17:24]
That's my question.
[17:24]
That was kind of a nerdy game.
[17:27]
Or a robot.
[17:29]
Oh, my God.
[17:30]
There's a Gambot?
[17:32]
I wish.
Stuart Wellington
[17:33]
Michael Gambot.
[17:34]
Michael Gambot.
Dan McCoy
[17:35]
Michael Gambot.
[17:35]
The star of the Harry Potter films.
Elliott Kalan
[17:38]
He's the star?
[17:40]
He's not even the title character, Dan.
[17:43]
He's the star of Singing Detective.
[17:45]
He's not even the first one.
[17:47]
He took over Richard Harris's role.
[17:50]
I don't care about kids.
[17:51]
I like old guys.
[17:55]
Why couldn't this movie have been called Dumbledore and the Prisoner of Azkaban?
[18:01]
Anywho.
Dan McCoy
[18:02]
Gambit, by the way, played by Taylor Kirsch of Friday Night Lights.
[18:08]
Good show.
[18:08]
Good show.
[18:09]
Tim Riggins.
Stuart Wellington
[18:09]
I've never seen that show.
[18:10]
I've heard great good things about it.
[18:11]
It's a good show.
[18:11]
Maybe I'll pick it up sometime.
[18:12]
One of many Flophouse movies that features people from Friday Night Lights.
[18:17]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[18:18]
Friday Night Lights and the Wire people do not have good movie careers despite being in good
[18:24]
However, they still have careers.
[18:27]
That's good.
[18:27]
Yeah, it's true.
[18:28]
They should be thankful.
[18:28]
It's better than nothing.
[18:29]
In this holiday season, they should be thankful.
[18:31]
Absolutely.
[18:32]
Things are tough, man.
[18:33]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[18:33]
Anywho.
[18:35]
Gambit helps Wolverine after a fight because friend heroes always fight first.
[18:40]
In which the two characters use their powers in incredibly ridiculous ways.
Stuart Wellington
[18:44]
They should write that on the cover of one of those two heroes fighting issues.
[18:48]
Heroes always fight first.
Elliott Kalan
[18:51]
Gambit flies Wolverine into the secret island.
[18:54]
Wolverine learns everything he knows is a lie.
[18:56]
He fights a lot of things.
[18:58]
It turns out Striker is trying to combine all of these kids' mutant powers into one unstoppable
[19:03]
soldier who is a kind of very loose take on the character of Deadpool, the Merc with a
[19:08]
mouth.
[19:09]
That's what they call him.
[19:10]
He's got three titles.
[19:11]
And they fight on the lip of a cooling tower.
[19:16]
Wolverine and Sabretooth kind of team up, but then they don't.
[19:19]
And then Sabretooth leaves.
[19:20]
There's very little closure there.
[19:22]
And Striker manages to shoot Wolverine in the head with an adamantium bullet, which doesn't
[19:26]
kill him, but does remove his memory, a la Gillian getting hit with a coconut.
[19:30]
Yeah.
[19:31]
And Wolverine tragically does not remember his dead girlfriend at the end of the movie.
[19:37]
And Charles Xavier.
[19:38]
It turns out his girlfriend's working for Striker, but only because Striker had kidnapped the
[19:41]
girlfriend's sister, who is kind of Emma Frost, the White Queen, but not exactly.
[19:46]
Oh.
[19:47]
Yeah, she's covered in diamonds.
[19:49]
Well, you said, what was the name?
[19:51]
Zales should have been her name.
[19:52]
Her superpower name is Zales because she's covered in diamonds.
[19:55]
Is Emma Frost covered in diamonds?
[19:55]
Well, she's covered in white lingerie.
[19:58]
No, no, they...
[19:58]
She's not rhinestone.
[19:59]
They decided...
[20:00]
Yeah.
[20:00]
Like the one in the film.
[20:01]
They decided that being a super telepath wasn't enough, so she also has diamond hard skin.
[20:06]
Oh.
[20:07]
But she can't do both at the same time.
[20:08]
Yeah, I thought she was just a hot telepath.
[20:10]
Yeah.
[20:10]
No, well, they changed that.
[20:11]
She has diamond hard skin.
Stuart Wellington
[20:11]
They had, like, a lot of sexual chemistry with Banshee.
[20:14]
She just wears...
Elliott Kalan
[20:15]
Well, now she has sexual chemistry with Cyclops.
[20:17]
She wears scanty.
[20:18]
Boring.
[20:18]
That dude's a dork.
[20:21]
Matt Fraction is writing him very well in the current run of Uncanny.
[20:24]
Sure, I don't believe that, but we'll get into that later.
[20:26]
We'll talk about that later.
[20:27]
But...
[20:28]
And Charles Xavier stops by and picks up all the kids.
[20:31]
And that's it.
[20:32]
Come with me.
[20:33]
Come with me, guys.
[20:34]
To my special kid school.
Stuart Wellington
[20:38]
I can hear you in my mind.
[20:41]
Can you?
Dan McCoy
[20:42]
And in my pants.
Stuart Wellington
[20:44]
I'm a shitload of candy in this blackbird.
Elliott Kalan
[20:51]
I didn't think you were going to say it, then you said it.
Dan McCoy
[20:56]
Elliot.
[20:58]
Elliot's coughing up water.
Elliott Kalan
[20:59]
You made him lose it, dude.
[21:01]
That's well done.
[21:01]
Yeah, nice work.
[21:02]
Well done, old guy.
[21:03]
With the worst, most horrible joke ever.
Dan McCoy
[21:06]
Well, anyway, now that we've talked about the big picture, we can talk about terrible.
[21:11]
And after the credits...
Elliott Kalan
[21:13]
Oh, by the way, Deadpool's head gets cut off, and after the credits, his hand reaches over
[21:19]
and grabs his head, and then his eyes open.
[21:21]
And he shushes.
[21:22]
And he shushes the audience.
[21:24]
Don't tell anyone.
[21:26]
I'm leaving it open for a sequel.
Dan McCoy
[21:29]
Keep quiet in the movie theater, please.
[21:32]
I want to move...
[21:32]
Silence your cell phones.
[21:35]
Fire exits to the front.
[21:38]
Go to the concession stands.
Elliott Kalan
[21:40]
Yep.
[21:41]
Now it's time for the 20.
[21:43]
Yep.
Dan McCoy
[21:45]
Have some special Deadpool raisinets.
[21:47]
There was...
[21:48]
So that's the movie.
Elliott Kalan
[21:49]
So that's the film.
[21:50]
Okay.
[21:51]
It is very boring, and by the numbers, and not very exciting.
[21:54]
Oh, man.
[21:54]
If by the numbers you mean they don't explain a lot of things that are necessary for understanding
[21:58]
the characters.
Elliott Kalan
[21:58]
Well, no.
[21:59]
The plot is very rote, but it's...
[22:00]
Yeah, they expect you have seen all three X-Men movies, you've read the comics.
[22:04]
They really do a bad job.
Stuart Wellington
[22:05]
Possibly even seeing the pizza commercials featuring Wolverine slashing a pizza.
[22:09]
Whoa.
Elliott Kalan
[22:10]
They do a very bad job of explaining who these characters are, and why you should be interested
[22:14]
in them.
[22:15]
As you said, during the movie, an action scene would start, and you'd say, you know, I was
[22:19]
just thinking...
[22:20]
This is what Dan said.
[22:21]
I was just thinking there isn't a lot of action in this movie, but now this action's kind
[22:23]
of stupid.
[22:24]
Dang!
[22:27]
That's not how I talk.
[22:28]
That's my Dan impression.
[22:30]
Yeah, no.
[22:31]
This is my...
[22:32]
Actually, this is my Dan impression.
[22:34]
Well, the thing about the movie is...
[22:37]
Yep, that's it.
[22:38]
It always starts with a sigh.
Dan McCoy
[22:40]
Too close?
[22:41]
Here's a digression.
[22:43]
My loved wife in college apparently did an impression of me that just involved her sighing
[22:51]
and then putting her hand to her forehead as if she was taking her own temperature.
[22:58]
And it was pretty accurate, I gotta say.
[23:02]
So, uh...
[23:02]
So that anecdote you just heard was more exciting than the movie X-Men Origins Wolverine.
Elliott Kalan
[23:05]
Yeah, let's get back to the movie here.
[23:08]
Well, Stuart, what do you want to say about it?
[23:09]
Or Dash, you know?
[23:10]
Yeah.
[23:12]
Those claws were terrible.
Stuart Wellington
[23:14]
Yeah, well, let's talk about fucking special effects for a second.
[23:16]
Terrible effects.
[23:17]
You know, I thought after X-Men 3, X-Men The Last Stand, there wasn't a chance for an X-Men
[23:24]
based movie to have shittier special effects than that movie.
[23:29]
But X-Men Origins Wolverine, they're abysmal.
[23:32]
Like, when his fucking claws come out, it looks like the singing sword from fucking Who Framed
[23:36]
Roger Rabbit.
[23:37]
It's crazy.
[23:38]
Yeah, they look like cartoon claws.
[23:39]
Yeah, they're pastel blue.
[23:41]
It's fucking nuts.
[23:42]
Like Robocop.
[23:44]
It's a lot like Robocop.
[23:45]
And, you know, I don't watch the pictures expecting it to be exactly realistic.
[23:51]
I mean, come on.
[23:51]
This is a fantasy world.
[23:55]
But I would like a little bit more adherence to reality, please.
Elliott Kalan
[24:00]
Well, just use props instead of terrible CGI effects.
[24:03]
Like, maybe use the CGI for a second when the claws come out of his hands, but, like,
[24:07]
why can't he just have a couple of prop claws strapped to his hands?
Stuart Wellington
[24:10]
Yeah, or make not every single bullet hit in the ground CGI.
[24:15]
Like, you could use squibs as Dan pointed out.
Elliott Kalan
[24:17]
Yeah, there's a part where Wolverine is riding a motorcycle through the woods while a helicopter
[24:21]
gunship fires at him.
[24:22]
Not as exciting as it sounds.
[24:23]
Sounds very exciting, but it is not.
[24:25]
Each of those elements that should be exciting.
[24:27]
Wolverine, motorcycle, gunship, woods.
[24:28]
And then a helicopter is piloted by a mutant who's amazing at shooting guns.
[24:31]
His name is Agent Zero, which seems to be a...
Dan McCoy
[24:35]
Agent Gunzaloff is his name.
Elliott Kalan
[24:37]
Well, they should have called him, like, Gunny, you know, or Shooter.
Stuart Wellington
[24:41]
Starting Mark Wolverine.
[24:42]
Yeah, well, there you go.
[24:43]
That would be a really long name, though.
[24:46]
Don't think it's a good name.
[24:47]
Shooter starring Mark Wahlberg.
[24:48]
Move out.
Elliott Kalan
[24:51]
Logan, you're with Fred J. Dukes.
[24:55]
Saber Tooth, you're with Shooter starring Mark Wahlberg.
[24:58]
But, like, all the hits of bullets on the ground, or most of them, are very obvious computer effects.
[25:03]
Like, they don't even have, yeah, just explosives in the grounds blowing up.
[25:07]
Yeah.
[25:08]
Kicking up dirt.
Dan McCoy
[25:09]
For a movie that's about, like, superpowers, I had a lot of logical problems with the film.
[25:15]
I mean, for instance...
[25:16]
Really?
[25:17]
Well, when...
[25:18]
Okay.
[25:19]
When they're bonding, uh...
[25:21]
Well, I...
[25:22]
When they're squirting him full of adamantium.
[25:24]
When they're squirting him full of adamantium.
[25:26]
They, for some reason, number one, they need to have an underwater, which I don't know.
[25:29]
Just like the comics.
[25:29]
Because it looks cool.
Stuart Wellington
[25:30]
It did happen in water in the comics.
Dan McCoy
[25:32]
Okay.
[25:32]
But also, like, they're, like, shooting it in, like, via these, uh...
[25:36]
Little needles.
[25:37]
Needles that go into his skin.
[25:38]
And I guess...
[25:40]
Well, it's like how you...
[25:40]
When you put adamantium through, uh, needles, it immediately bombs to bone.
[25:45]
I don't know why.
[25:45]
Like, it apparently just spreads out under his skin.
Elliott Kalan
[25:48]
It's like when you plump up stuffed crust pizza.
[25:50]
Like, the cheese knows where to go.
[25:52]
You just leave it up to the cheese to figure out where to go.
[25:54]
You trust the cheese.
[25:57]
You just...
[25:57]
That's the first thing they teach you is trust the cheese.
[26:00]
TTC.
Stuart Wellington
[26:01]
And adamantium.
[26:02]
I did not know that about stuffed crust pizza technology, Elliot.
[26:05]
Thank you so much.
[26:06]
It's based on the force.
[26:07]
Yeah.
[26:08]
I guess you're right.
Dan McCoy
[26:08]
I mean, adamantium automatically clings to bone.
[26:11]
No, but you could say...
[26:11]
In an even level.
[26:13]
All over.
[26:15]
So...
[26:15]
Yeah, it's...
Elliott Kalan
[26:16]
It's fairly dumb.
[26:18]
And...
[26:18]
But also, like, everyone has set powers, but they also have the ability to, like, run up
[26:22]
walls and jump in the air really far, and...
[26:25]
It's like...
[26:26]
It's the...
[26:26]
It's similar to Watchmen, where it's like, here's a real world about superheroes who don't have powers
[26:31]
except they can punch a guy through a wall and jump, like, 30 feet, you know?
[26:35]
And as soon as a fight starts, it's all slow motion, baby.
[26:38]
Like, they...
[26:39]
You have to believe that everyone in the universe, in the world of this film, can do these amazing
[26:45]
feats.
[26:46]
Yeah.
[26:46]
But they don't have claws, you know?
Dan McCoy
[26:48]
But also, and when Wolverine uses his claws on a fire escape, he doesn't just cut it up,
[26:54]
it shatters like someone put liquid nitrogen all over it.
Stuart Wellington
[26:57]
Because that's what's weird about it, is he does that, and then he uses his claws on human
[27:01]
bodies.
[27:01]
You know what?
[27:02]
It doesn't cause a single drop of blood to squirt out anywhere.
Elliott Kalan
[27:05]
Well, it cauterizes the wound as we realize.
Stuart Wellington
[27:07]
Whoa, it's like a lightsaber?
[27:08]
Yeah, exactly.
[27:09]
Oh, that makes so much more sense now.
Elliott Kalan
[27:12]
Now imagine how cool it would be if he had lightsabers that came out of his hands.
[27:16]
Someone has...
[27:17]
I bet you someone has written that story.
[27:18]
It's a Wolverine-Star Wars crossover.
[27:21]
Wolverine-2019.
[27:22]
That sounds like my slash fic.
[27:24]
It's called Luke's Sky...
[27:25]
Between Wolverine and Obi-Wan Kenobi.
[27:26]
It's called Luke's Sky Wolverine.
[27:28]
Well, they had an X-Men...
[27:31]
More than one X-Men Star Trek crossovers.
[27:34]
And I remember when I worked at Barnes & Noble...
[27:35]
You're making that up.
[27:36]
No, they've had the comic version and the novel version.
[27:38]
That sounds awesome.
Stuart Wellington
[27:39]
And I remember when I worked at Barnes & Noble...
[27:41]
Wait a minute.
[27:41]
I should have bought it.
[27:42]
Is Professor X Jean-Luc Picard, like, is it the same guy?
[27:45]
Or is he like, I'm two sides of the same coin?
[27:48]
I don't remember.
Elliott Kalan
[27:49]
But I never read through the whole book.
[27:50]
I should have bought it when I worked at Barnes & Noble.
[27:52]
But I used to read through it.
[27:53]
And I just remember, like, they're recording...
Stuart Wellington
[27:56]
We just got a little bit of X-Men Origins Elliot over here.
[27:58]
Wow.
[27:59]
That he worked at Barnes & Noble.
Elliott Kalan
[28:00]
Next, you'll learn the story of my glasses.
[28:02]
Now we understand his power of having read books.
[28:08]
You'll learn how I got the story of my shoes.
[28:11]
But there's...
Dan McCoy
[28:12]
Well, I went to Payless one day.
Elliott Kalan
[28:15]
Payless, huh?
[28:16]
DSW had a sale.
[28:18]
But the...
[28:19]
No, I'm not going to spend a lot of money on shoes.
[28:20]
Come on.
[28:20]
But the...
[28:21]
I would think you'd go to Zappos, though.
[28:24]
When I get my feet zapped, I'm sorry.
[28:26]
I'm not going to fall for that trap.
Stuart Wellington
[28:27]
I'm just shooting for Zappos gift certificates, to be honest.
Elliott Kalan
[28:30]
But anyway, yeah, because usually when we mention a product on the Flophouse, we get a lot of free product.
[28:36]
Like free Popeyes, right?
[28:37]
Oh, I wish.
[28:38]
My dream one day is to be famous enough to do an ad for Popeyes and have them pay me in chicken.
[28:43]
That's awesome.
[28:43]
Like, I'll do this ad for...
[28:44]
Like, you'll do, like, a treasure bath, but with chicken?
[28:47]
I'll do this ad for free if I can walk into any Popeyes anywhere and not have to pay.
Dan McCoy
[28:52]
And they'll be like, oh, Mr. Elliot, here you go.
Elliott Kalan
[28:55]
Yeah.
[28:55]
But anyway, let me...
Dan McCoy
[28:56]
There's a reason I'm imagining, like, this horrible Twilight Zone twist, though, where, like...
Elliott Kalan
[28:59]
Oh, where I die of a heart attack?
[29:00]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[29:01]
Well, no, I was going to say, you're, like, getting hooked up to, like, this Popeyes chicken machine.
[29:05]
What?
Elliott Kalan
[29:05]
All the Popeyes you could eat, huh?
[29:07]
Yeah.
[29:07]
Now you'll have to eat Popeyes forever.
[29:09]
No!
[29:10]
Yeah.
[29:12]
Yeah.
[29:12]
But the, uh, so...
[29:13]
Like a Sisyphus-type character.
[29:15]
There's this novel, Star Trek X-Men.
[29:17]
Never seen it.
[29:17]
And it's probably called, like, Deadly Rebellion or something like that.
[29:20]
But, like, uh, but the...
[29:22]
There's a scene where it's, like, we're having trouble in the transporter bay.
[29:26]
Some kind of angry Harry, like, Harry Runt is in here.
[29:29]
And it's like, ah, said Professor X, that must be Logan.
[29:33]
Like, what?
[29:34]
Like, the characters have met each other before and are having another adventure.
[29:38]
And there are all those moments where it's like, Nightcrawler, my old friend.
[29:41]
It's good to see you again, you know?
Dan McCoy
[29:44]
Yeah, well, I mean, speaking of which, like, that's the weird thing about the end of this movie.
[29:47]
I mean, I guess that, like, Cyclops doesn't meet Wolverine.
[29:52]
But apparently he can see through, like, the weird bandana they've put over his head because of his eye.
Elliott Kalan
[29:57]
Well, no, I think what they're supposed to be saying is that...
[30:00]
Well, there's a part...
[30:01]
He's blindfolded.
[30:02]
Right.
[30:02]
Otherwise, his eye beams will shoot in too many.
Stuart Wellington
[30:04]
Yeah, he's got, like, Ruby Quartz blindfolds on, right?
Elliott Kalan
[30:06]
Yeah.
[30:07]
And, uh, he...
Stuart Wellington
[30:08]
They wove Ruby Quartz fibers.
Elliott Kalan
[30:10]
Into the blindfold.
[30:11]
Into the, uh, nap...
[30:13]
What?
[30:13]
You know, the airline sleep mask that he's wearing.
[30:16]
Yeah.
[30:17]
But, uh, they're leaving through the tunnels of the base, all the escaping mutants, and they're like,
[30:22]
we don't know which way to go, left or right?
[30:23]
And he goes...
[30:24]
And he's blindfolded.
[30:25]
He goes, left.
[30:26]
But how can you know you can't see?
[30:28]
I just know.
[30:29]
And I think what they're implying is he memorized the route...
[30:32]
Or maybe Professor Xavier's telling you.
[30:34]
I would say Professor X.
[30:34]
I thought it was that he memorized the route because he couldn't see, so he just remembered which way they turned.
[30:39]
But maybe it's Professor Xavier.
[30:40]
That's stupider than our assumption.
[30:41]
But then how did Professor Xavier have fucking blueprints of the secret military base on Governor's Island?
[30:46]
Yeah.
[30:47]
Governor's Island?
[30:48]
Well, which island?
[30:49]
It's one of those islands, you know...
[30:50]
I was it?
[30:51]
Somewhere.
Stuart Wellington
[30:51]
I don't know.
[30:52]
He's an incredibly powerful telepath, Elliot.
[30:55]
With extensive resources at his disposal.
[30:57]
I guess you're right.
[30:58]
Well, he does have a...
[30:59]
He opens up a fucking school for troubled mutant kids.
[31:02]
My point is, like...
[31:02]
He does have a fighter jet, too.
[31:03]
I guess my point is more that the movie, like...
[31:06]
Self-momber.
Dan McCoy
[31:07]
Goes through these...
[31:07]
The movie goes through these weird contortions to, like, work all these other mutants in,
[31:13]
but also to have none of them interact directly with Wolverine.
[31:17]
Well, that's one of the...
[31:18]
And for Wolverine to lose his memory, so when they all meet up later on...
[31:22]
They don't remember.
[31:23]
Yeah, it won't be like, you know, fucking Star Wars prequels.
[31:27]
You're like, I wouldn't see 3PO.
Elliott Kalan
[31:28]
No, the...
[31:29]
Anyway.
Stuart Wellington
[31:29]
Yeah, expect him to run into a couple of droids.
[31:32]
Yeah, exactly.
Elliott Kalan
[31:32]
Well, that's the thing, is, like, they want it to be an origin that tells a story, but
[31:36]
they've got to tie it into what happened in the first X-Men movies, so, like, he can hate
[31:40]
Sabretooth, but he can't kill him at the end, because Sabretooth's in X-Men.
[31:43]
He can hate Striker, but they can't kill him, because he's in X-Men, too, and it's really...
[31:47]
It's like...
[31:47]
It reminds me when I saw...
[31:48]
It was, like, Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, or some nonsense, and the whole
[31:52]
time I'm like, oh, man, there's just going to be some fight at the end between
[31:55]
him and Voldemort, and they fought for a little bit, and Voldemort's like, ah!
[31:59]
We'll all be back, Potter!
[32:00]
And disappeared, and I was like, oh, that's right.
[32:02]
It's like two or three more movies.
[32:04]
There'll be no closure in this story.
[32:06]
They just did such a bad job of making it feel like not a chapter in a longer story, which
[32:11]
happened here, too.
Dan McCoy
[32:12]
Speaking of Sabretooth, I was saying that I don't really understand his motivation throughout
[32:17]
the film.
[32:18]
You mean the actor Liev Schreiber?
Elliott Kalan
[32:20]
I told you...
[32:21]
I think it's because it's probably a big paying movie.
[32:24]
Yeah, I told you Sabretooth's motivation.
[32:26]
He's a killing machine.
[32:26]
Okay, well...
[32:28]
He's a man.
[32:29]
Well, that's the thing.
[32:30]
He seems to kill for no reason.
[32:32]
He wants Stryker to give him adamantium bones.
[32:34]
Why?
[32:35]
Who knows?
[32:35]
I don't know.
[32:36]
What?
[32:37]
Makes him better at battling.
Dan McCoy
[32:38]
Another logical problem I had with the film, Stryker's reason for not giving Sabretooth
[32:43]
adamantium bones.
[32:44]
Sabretooth, the guy who's already on Stryker's side, he's like, oh, I gotta go get Wolverine
[32:49]
to put adamantium on it, even though that involves a huge conspiracy.
[32:53]
He says, oh, Sabretooth, you wouldn't be able to survive it.
[32:56]
Sabretooth, who has the same healing powers as Wolverine.
Stuart Wellington
[33:00]
I mean, they're not exactly the same.
[33:01]
I mean, I bet, like, if you pulled out their Marvel cards and there was a, like, a power
[33:06]
gauge for healing powers.
[33:08]
Yeah, exactly.
[33:10]
Sabretooth might be a little lower, but he's a little higher in sheer killing ability.
Dan McCoy
[33:16]
In psychotic rage.
[33:18]
He turns against his brother, I guess, to get adamantium bones.
[33:22]
Well, they have a love-hate relationship, too.
[33:24]
And then at the end, he's like, oh, no one gets to kill you but me, is the line he says,
[33:29]
or something like that.
[33:31]
And so they team up to fight against them.
Stuart Wellington
[33:33]
Sabretooth says nothing but, like, awesome cliches the whole movie.
Elliott Kalan
[33:37]
Wolverine walks in, after he kills Wolverine's girlfriend, Wolverine walks into the bar slash
[33:41]
barn that, uh, slash garage that, uh, Sabretooth goes, look what the cat dragged in.
[33:48]
And it's like, come on, seriously?
S4
[33:51]
Every line he has in the movie is like that, though.
[33:53]
It's terrible.
[33:54]
It's the weirdest reading for his script.
Dan McCoy
[33:57]
A guy wrote it.
[33:58]
Someone wrote that.
[33:59]
Somebody wrote that.
[34:00]
Somebody got paid for that.
[34:00]
Someone opened their book of cliches, and they're like, that's one.
Elliott Kalan
[34:03]
I'm trying to remember some of the other ones.
[34:05]
It's a lot of, like, I'm surprised there wasn't a point where he went, like, didn't go, meow.
[34:09]
Like, when somebody.
Stuart Wellington
[34:10]
It was when, uh, when Wolverine, in the trailer, when Wolverine, like, extends his computer claws,
[34:15]
he's like, ooh, shiny.
[34:17]
Yeah.
[34:19]
He didn't say, quite as, quite as gay.
[34:21]
Quite as gay.
[34:22]
Quite as Sean Hayes-y as I did.
Dan McCoy
[34:24]
What is your obsession with Sean Hayes?
Stuart Wellington
[34:26]
He's hilarious, Dan.
[34:28]
Hilarious.
[34:29]
I don't understand why the people who make Two and a Half Men don't just put him on that
[34:32]
fucking show.
[34:33]
Because it would be Three and a Half Men.
[34:34]
Solid gold.
Dan McCoy
[34:35]
Yes.
[34:35]
There's like, every show should star Sean Hayes.
Stuart Wellington
[34:38]
If he's the half of a man that's on that show, they take that fat kid off of there.
Elliott Kalan
[34:42]
I wish it was called-
[34:43]
Million dollars.
[34:44]
It was about Two and a Half Men.
Stuart Wellington
[34:44]
A million dollars to me is what that-
Elliott Kalan
[34:46]
It was called Two and a Half Men.
[34:47]
It was the same exact show, but instead of a kid, it was like a veteran who had his legs
[34:52]
amputated.
[34:53]
Double amputated, sure.
[34:53]
Or like Jude Law's character in Gattaca, who also lost his legs.
[34:57]
It's like, these two guys having zany adventures and then this really sad guy.
Stuart Wellington
[35:01]
It's like, I'm gonna go sit out near the strip mall and hold my sign that says I'm a war
[35:08]
vet.
[35:08]
Like that sort of thing.
Elliott Kalan
[35:09]
All right.
[35:10]
I've got to convince these girls to sleep with me.
[35:12]
All right, Charlie Sheen.
[35:13]
Well, I'll be at the VFW.
Dan McCoy
[35:16]
One of you will be the A plot, and one of you will be the B plot.
[35:19]
And one of those plots will be depressing.
[35:21]
But here's one thing that I just remembered that really bothered me.
[35:25]
Okay, lay it on us.
[35:26]
At the beginning, when they're in the African village, and they find the adamantium-
[35:29]
Not the beginning.
Elliott Kalan
[35:30]
That's like 25, 30 minutes in.
[35:32]
Okay.
Dan McCoy
[35:33]
Well, they find the adamantium at a few minutes in.
[35:34]
Maybe it's 15 minutes in.
[35:35]
And they go to the village, and they're like, where did this stone come from?
[35:38]
And the guy's like, it came from the sky.
[35:40]
And everyone's like, it came from the sky?
[35:42]
Like, tell the fucking truth, guys.
Elliott Kalan
[35:44]
Stop lying.
[35:45]
And Wolverine goes, no, he's telling the truth.
[35:47]
Yeah, and I was like, what?
Dan McCoy
[35:48]
This is a universe where no one has ever heard of a TV or something?
[35:50]
Smells like the Shi'ar Empire.
[35:53]
Like, they could not believe.
[35:54]
No one could believe that a stone could fall out of the sky.
Elliott Kalan
[35:57]
That was dumb, but what's even dumber, and it goes along with what you were saying earlier
[36:01]
about shoehorning these characters in, is the deleted scene on the DVD where Wolverine
[36:05]
has a falling out with his team of mercenaries, and he says, that's it, I'm done.
[36:09]
And he leaves after they kill a bunch of people in this village.
[36:12]
In the deleted scene, little girl Storm, Aurora Monroe, is there and is just standing mute.
[36:18]
And they just keep cutting to her looking at this.
[36:21]
And you can tell it's her because she has long white hair, and because it starts raining
[36:25]
behind her, because she controls the weather.
[36:28]
And they cut that out of the movie, but it's on the deleted scenes, and it shows this philosophy
[36:32]
of like, we've got to put in all these little hints to the real fans.
Dan McCoy
[36:36]
It's what's called Destiny.
[36:37]
That they just feel really...
[36:38]
It's what's called Destiny, Elliot.
[36:40]
It's like they do...
[36:41]
It was all preordained.
[36:41]
They would all work together.
Elliott Kalan
[36:43]
They do a lot of comics now that take place in the past where it's like, it'll be like
[36:46]
Nick Fury having an adventure in World War II, and he'll bump into Wolverine, and then
[36:51]
years later they won't remember.
[36:52]
It's like, oh, thanks for driving me over to this part of the battlefield.
[36:56]
What's your name?
[36:56]
Logan.
[36:57]
Well, nice to meet you, Logan.
[36:58]
You're a tough little guy.
[36:59]
Hope we'll meet again sometime.
[37:01]
Wink, readers!
[37:02]
You can heal anything.
[37:03]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[37:05]
Oh, God.
[37:06]
You seem the best at what you do, and that's driving.
[37:09]
See you later, Bob!
Elliott Kalan
[37:10]
I hope someday to do something more important.
Dan McCoy
[37:12]
Thanks!
[37:13]
I hope to do something less nice in the future.
Stuart Wellington
[37:15]
I hope to kill a shitload of Skrulls with you.
Elliott Kalan
[37:17]
Peace out!
[37:20]
It was a, this is, and a lot of spinning.
[37:23]
Everybody spins in the action scenes.
[37:25]
A lot of spinning, a lot of sorting.
Stuart Wellington
[37:28]
There's tons of CGI backdrops.
[37:30]
Like, it's all, I think the whole movie was shot on blue screen.
Dan McCoy
[37:34]
A lot of people screaming, like, screaming no to the heavens.
[37:37]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[37:37]
I was actually expecting more of that.
[37:39]
I'm a little disappointed.
[37:40]
The trailers led me to believe that was like 70% of the movie.
[37:45]
It was just Hugh Jackman flexing and showing off his veins.
Elliott Kalan
[37:48]
There was a lot of him showing off his veins.
Stuart Wellington
[37:50]
Shaber tooth!
[37:52]
Yeah, as soon as, as soon as a fight's about to get started, he's like, hmm, shirt's coming
[37:56]
off.
[37:56]
Just gotta wear a white.
[37:57]
Yeah, that's right.
S4
[37:58]
There was a scene where he was running outside with a coat and suddenly came back.
[38:02]
All of a sudden it's like, time to show off my Italian t-shirt.
Dan McCoy
[38:06]
Oh yeah.
[38:06]
And by the way, ladies, ladies and gay men, partial nudity.
[38:12]
We were, we were, we were promised partial nudity at the beginning of the DVD when we saw the
[38:16]
rating.
[38:17]
There was an, there was an introduction.
Elliott Kalan
[38:18]
Hugh Jackman walks down and he goes, thanks for renting this DVD of X-Men Orgers Wolverine.
[38:23]
Just so you know, there's some partial nudity in the film.
[38:25]
What's it all about, Alfie?
[38:27]
People ask me all the time.
[38:29]
Good night, you princess of Maine.
[38:32]
And it was Hugh Jackman.
[38:32]
I cannot do an Australian accent.
Dan McCoy
[38:35]
It was Hugh Jackman leaping out of the water, going into Berserker Rage and, you know, diving
[38:41]
into a waterfall.
[38:42]
A waterfall.
[38:43]
But, you know, a little Jackman ass, ladies, ladies.
Stuart Wellington
[38:48]
Yeah, if you're, if you're a Jack fan.
Elliott Kalan
[38:50]
I wish that he had, I wish that while running, like, with, with no pants on, it just flashed
[38:56]
on the screen, something for your girlfriends.
[38:59]
A little something.
[39:00]
Like, you know, you dragged you to the, you dragged them to the theater.
[39:02]
Like, here's something for them.
[39:04]
Now back to more people being killed as soon as they're introduced.
[39:08]
Yeah.
[39:09]
There is kind of a funny scene where he gets picked up by this old man and woman who are
[39:12]
basically Ma and Pa Kent, or Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru, like any old people who take care
[39:17]
of the hero.
[39:18]
Hero.
[39:18]
Hero.
[39:19]
Hero.
[39:20]
And he gets to their house and he's using the bathroom and his claws come out for the
[39:23]
first time.
[39:24]
And he doesn't know what to do.
[39:25]
He's cutting up the radiator and the sink.
[39:27]
And there was something very Teen Wolf about it.
Dan McCoy
[39:29]
Yeah.
[39:30]
And it's weird.
[39:31]
Like a puberty scene.
[39:31]
What's weird is that.
[39:32]
And then the elderly, kindly old man and woman were immediately shot by snipers.
[39:37]
Yeah.
[39:38]
The weird thing about it though is like.
Stuart Wellington
[39:40]
He doesn't even get to stay with them for a week.
[39:42]
But he had, I mean, he had, he had like claws.
[39:46]
Like ever since he was like, he had claws for over a hundred years.
Dan McCoy
[39:50]
Wait a minute.
[39:51]
What?
[39:51]
They were pointy, but they weren't like.
[39:53]
They weren't razor sharp.
[39:54]
Well, he did use them to kill people.
[39:55]
So wait a minute.
Stuart Wellington
[39:55]
How did being squirted full of adamantium turn his like sausagey little bone claws into
[40:01]
like little razors?
[40:03]
Yeah.
[40:03]
Like super sharp razors.
[40:05]
Yeah, no.
[40:05]
That's crazy.
Dan McCoy
[40:06]
It seems like there should have been a forge, like a, someone, a forge, like some sort of
[40:10]
Wait, the character forge?
[40:12]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[40:12]
The shaman inventor?
[40:16]
That's who he is.
[40:16]
It's always working on the blackbird?
Dan McCoy
[40:18]
Yeah.
[40:18]
You think that character should have been around to fix it?
[40:21]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[40:23]
Okay.
[40:23]
That would have made more sense.
Dan McCoy
[40:25]
Somebody like, there should have been some fucking, like we should have seen striker with
[40:28]
like a knife sharpener.
[40:31]
Like, all right.
[40:32]
Well, now that we've done the basic lay down of the adamantium, we're going to do a little
[40:37]
finesse on this.
[40:38]
You just stand there.
[40:39]
We've got to grind this down.
[40:40]
Put a little English on it.
[40:40]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[40:41]
Put a little English on it.
[40:42]
So, we've all seen the X-Men movies, right?
[40:45]
Yep.
[40:45]
Right, fellas?
[40:46]
I don't know about you guys, a little tired about this striker bad guy, saber tooth bad
[40:51]
guy.
[40:51]
Kind of done with them.
[40:52]
Why didn't they introduce more bad guys?
[40:54]
Yeah, yeah.
[40:54]
I mean, I guess this Deadpool fella.
[40:56]
They kind of did.
[40:56]
Sure, this Deadpool gentleman.
S4
[40:58]
They did a bad job of introducing people and kind of showing their half powers.
[41:03]
Sure.
Elliott Kalan
[41:04]
Well, that's the thing.
[41:04]
It's kind of, there seems to be this rule that in superhero movies nowadays where when
[41:10]
you introduce a villain in one movie, he has to show up in the next one and maybe you'll
[41:15]
throw in some other guys too.
[41:16]
Like, the Spider-Man movie is not quite as much, although the Osborns are in every fucking
[41:21]
one.
[41:22]
But like, Magneto's in the first one.
[41:24]
Okay.
[41:25]
We've got to have Magneto with some more villains in the second one.
[41:28]
Third one, got to bring back Magneto, but we'll give him a bigger army of like random
[41:32]
mutants that just show up in the backgrounds.
Dan McCoy
[41:34]
That really pissed me off.
[41:35]
I'm like, the Hellfire Club.
[41:37]
Come on, let's get to...
Elliott Kalan
[41:39]
The Hellfire Club, Apocalypse.
[41:40]
Like, you got all sorts of great...
[41:41]
Sentinels.
[41:42]
Mr. Sinister.
[41:43]
All sorts of weirdo villains you could put in there.
[41:45]
The Brood.
[41:47]
The Brood.
[41:48]
The Imperial Guard.
[41:49]
The guy in the wheelchair.
[41:50]
The Starjammers.
[41:51]
Sure.
[41:52]
Mojo.
[41:53]
Mojo and Mojo 2, the sequel.
[41:55]
Just have them sucked into the Mojoverse.
[41:57]
Come on, let's just do it.
[41:58]
Spiral.
[41:58]
And then you could have the ex-babies.
Dan McCoy
[42:00]
Yeah.
[42:00]
Darth Vader, the Gremlins.
Stuart Wellington
[42:03]
Yep.
[42:03]
Mr. Potter.
[42:06]
Maybe have them sucked into Asgard and they have to fight Loki.
[42:08]
Ivan Drago.
[42:09]
Uh-huh.
[42:10]
Darth...
[42:11]
Wait, did you already say Darth Vader?
[42:12]
He did.
[42:13]
He said Darth Vader.
[42:13]
What about Dark Helmet?
[42:14]
Dark Helmet.
[42:15]
Dark Helmet.
[42:17]
Sure.
[42:17]
Dark.
[42:18]
That's a crossover that's just waiting to be tacked.
[42:21]
What's his name from Temple of Doom?
[42:23]
The comedy.
Elliott Kalan
[42:23]
Mo'eram.
[42:24]
Mo'eram.
[42:25]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[42:26]
Yeah, man.
[42:27]
Why not?
Elliott Kalan
[42:28]
Jesus.
[42:29]
Charles Foster Kane.
[42:31]
Sam Spade.
[42:33]
Jake Giddies.
[42:34]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[42:34]
The Fat Man.
[42:35]
Gutman.
Elliott Kalan
[42:35]
The Fat Man.
[42:36]
Yeah, The Fat Man.
[42:37]
The Gunsull.
[42:37]
The Gunsull.
[42:40]
Joel Cairo.
[42:41]
Scarlett O'Hara.
[42:44]
Glenda, the Good Witch of the North.
[42:47]
Baby Jane.
[42:48]
Tor Johnson.
[42:49]
Now we're just naming things.
[42:51]
Fletch.
[42:53]
The Gopher from Caddyshack.
[42:55]
Fletch lives.
Stuart Wellington
[42:56]
Fletch lives.
[42:57]
Fletch again.
[42:58]
Wait, the Gopher from Caddyshack I think would be on Wolverine's side, to be honest.
[43:02]
I don't know.
[43:02]
They'd fight first, though.
[43:04]
Yeah.
[43:04]
When they first met up.
[43:05]
They'd have a fight, and Wolverine's like, wow, I want to catch you.
Elliott Kalan
[43:08]
Well, Bill Murray's kind of the Wolverine of that movie.
[43:11]
It's true.
[43:12]
Yeah.
[43:13]
Most movies and TV shows have their Wolverine.
[43:16]
Stuart, when I first started watching The Wire, one of the things that stuck with me was
[43:19]
when you described Omar as being The Wire's Wolverine.
[43:22]
It's true.
[43:22]
They all have that kind of character.
[43:24]
All right.
Stuart Wellington
[43:25]
Well, like Jim Belushi, he's never a Wolverine.
[43:29]
No.
Elliott Kalan
[43:30]
But John Belushi in Animal House is totally the Wolverine.
[43:33]
He's the Wolverine.
Dan McCoy
[43:35]
Well, we've been running a while.
[43:37]
We need to really speed through our final judgments on this.
[43:40]
Final judgments.
[43:41]
And to reiterate, the categories are, is this a good bad movie, a bad bad movie, or a movie
[43:48]
that you actually kind of liked in some way?
Elliott Kalan
[43:49]
You don't have special Wolverine ones for this?
[43:51]
Oh, God.
[43:52]
It's going to be a special category every time.
[43:54]
Is it the best it is at what it does?
[43:56]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[43:57]
Is what it does not very nice?
Elliott Kalan
[44:00]
Or is it mutantly mediocre?
[44:04]
Sure.
[44:05]
Elliot, what do you have to say?
[44:07]
I would have to say what it does isn't very nice because it's very boring.
[44:11]
And I like, this is a movie that I knew wasn't going to be good, but I'm still kind of looking
[44:15]
forward to it because as a comic book fan, there's the part of you that wants to see what they
[44:19]
do with the characters to change them.
[44:21]
And what they did was just not interesting or appealing.
[44:24]
Yeah.
[44:26]
Dash?
S4
[44:27]
Yeah.
[44:27]
There's nothing worthwhile in this movie at all.
[44:31]
Even seeing how bad the special effects are or how weird some of the stuff is, it's just
[44:36]
a bad movie.
Dan McCoy
[44:38]
Yeah.
[44:39]
If I was not watching it with you gentlemen, I think I would have taken Dash's lead and
[44:45]
fallen asleep.
[44:46]
Yeah.
[44:47]
So I'm going to agree.
Elliott Kalan
[44:48]
For a movie where someone uses the claws that come out of his hands to rip up a helicopter,
[44:53]
it is really boring.
[44:55]
Yeah.
[44:55]
Stuart?
Stuart Wellington
[44:57]
Wait, which one is really bad?
[44:59]
Which is the...
[45:00]
What he does isn't very nice.
[45:01]
Yeah, I don't like...
[45:02]
This wasn't a very good movie.
[45:03]
It was really...
[45:04]
The thing is, it was just really boring.
[45:06]
Yeah.
[45:06]
Like, that was the saddest thing about it.
[45:08]
It was like...
[45:09]
I mean, yeah, hey...
[45:10]
There's a lot of plot in this movie.
[45:10]
You know what?
[45:11]
You know what?
[45:12]
We're having some yucks right now.
[45:13]
But you know what?
[45:14]
During the movie, it was Snoresville.
[45:16]
It was.
[45:17]
We took our most last ticket to Snoresville.
[45:18]
Yeah.
[45:19]
I spent most of the time writing texts and stuff and writing emails.
[45:24]
You do that even when you like the movies.
[45:25]
Yeah, that's true.
[45:26]
And like looking at internet pornography on my iPhone.
[45:29]
Whoa.
[45:30]
While we were in the room?
[45:32]
Yeah, I wasn't like masturbating.
[45:33]
Okay.
[45:34]
But I was getting ready to.
Dan McCoy
[45:36]
Sure.
[45:37]
If the movie kept on going.
[45:39]
Yeah, I mean, it's a slow build.
Stuart Wellington
[45:41]
Like...
[45:41]
Sure.
[45:42]
I'm not ready to go at the drop of a hat.
[45:45]
You know, I gotta work it up.
Dan McCoy
[45:46]
You guys still don't romance you a little.
Stuart Wellington
[45:47]
Yeah, I gotta be a romance with my internet pornography.
[45:49]
Sure.
[45:51]
So...
[45:51]
Great movie.
[45:52]
So what were we talking about, Wolverine?
Dan McCoy
[45:54]
What we're talking about is...
[45:55]
Recommendations.
Stuart Wellington
[45:56]
Dan.
[45:57]
Recommendations.
[45:58]
This is where you recommend a movie that you actually liked as opposed to this shithole.
[46:03]
Dan.
[46:04]
Wow.
[46:05]
The spotlight's on you, McCoy.
[46:06]
Really accusatory.
[46:07]
Drop it on us.
Dan McCoy
[46:09]
I saw...
[46:10]
Your move.
[46:11]
I saw The Brothers Bloom, which I...
[46:14]
Oh, yeah.
[46:15]
Oh, I liked that movie.
[46:16]
Yeah, I liked it a lot.
Elliott Kalan
[46:17]
I haven't seen it.
Dan McCoy
[46:17]
I was just making a face.
[46:19]
Okay.
[46:19]
You know, I thought that maybe I wouldn't like it because it got a lot of mixed reviews.
[46:23]
But I liked Rick.
[46:25]
And the thing about movies like that, like, there's, like, good whimsy and bad whimsy.
[46:30]
And I know that, like...
Elliott Kalan
[46:31]
And there's the last mimsy.
[46:33]
Exactly.
[46:34]
And people...
[46:35]
You've been waiting.
[46:36]
You've been saving that fucking joke.
[46:38]
You've been waiting for someone to say whimsy twice.
[46:41]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[46:42]
And people disagree on, like, what's good and what's bad.
[46:46]
Like, people have different tolerances for different things.
[46:48]
Like, I, for instance...
[46:50]
I know a lot of people don't, but I, for instance, like Wes Anderson movies.
[46:54]
But I do not, like, say, Amelie.
[46:58]
Like, I watch Amelie and I'm like, well, this is visually stunning.
[47:01]
But this woman is crazy and she's making life difficult for herself and everyone around her.
[47:05]
Too foreign.
[47:08]
I don't go to the movies to read.
[47:10]
I would have watched Emily.
[47:11]
Yeah.
[47:12]
The English language version.
[47:14]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[47:15]
But, yeah, I like...
[47:17]
I thought I saw Brothers Bloom.
[47:18]
In the theaters.
[47:19]
And I thought the opening where it all rhymes was a little too twee.
[47:22]
Yeah, I didn't like that.
[47:23]
But after that, I enjoyed it a lot.
Dan McCoy
[47:24]
Well, and the thing is, like, it has a thematic reason.
[47:27]
I mean, it's a movie about, like, sort of constructing stories.
[47:29]
So, for it to have, like, this storybook quality makes sense.
[47:34]
It doesn't just feel like affectation.
Elliott Kalan
[47:36]
And you see Rachel Weisz's butt.
[47:38]
Yeah.
[47:38]
I like that.
Dan McCoy
[47:39]
Which only happens in 90% of the movies of Rachel Weisz.
Elliott Kalan
[47:42]
I just saw The Constant Gardener recently for the first time and I was like, there's a lot of Rachel Weisz with no clothes on in this.
Dan McCoy
[47:48]
Beautiful, beautiful butt in that movie.
[47:49]
But, um, anyway.
[47:51]
Hey, whoo.
Elliott Kalan
[47:52]
Ralph.
Dan McCoy
[47:53]
Ralph.
[47:54]
Ralph.
[47:54]
Ralph.
[47:55]
Ralph.
[47:55]
Ralph.
[47:55]
Ralph Finney's.
[47:56]
Yeah.
[47:57]
Ralph Finney's butt in the film.
Elliott Kalan
[47:58]
It shows.
[47:59]
It shows.
[48:00]
I don't know why it's so indelibly connected.
[48:02]
But whenever I hear the name Ralph, I assume Machio is going to follow it.
[48:05]
And I have not thought about him probably in eight years outside of, like, hearing people say the word Ralph.
S4
[48:11]
I always just fill it in with the word king right before.
[48:14]
That's why I assume I just heard.
[48:16]
Sure, King Ralph.
[48:17]
That's going to happen sometime, guys.
Dan McCoy
[48:19]
Like, all of the royal family is going to get together for a photograph.
[48:23]
For one photo.
Stuart Wellington
[48:24]
And Ralph Machio is going to have to step in and rule a country.
[48:27]
It's called Karate King.
[48:30]
You just sold your picture.
Elliott Kalan
[48:32]
That would be so great.
[48:34]
The new, they just installed the Cobra Kaiser of Germany.
[48:41]
And it's, instead of World War III, they have a karate competition.
[48:49]
Come on.
Stuart Wellington
[48:50]
Oh, man.
[48:51]
It's like Prime Minister Miyagi.
[48:54]
It's like the grain conjunction of stupid Elliot jokes tonight.
[48:58]
I don't know what's going on.
[48:59]
Yeah, Prime Minister Miyagi.
Elliott Kalan
[49:00]
Well, the planets are aligned.
Dan McCoy
[49:02]
So does anyone want to jump in with their recommendation?
Elliott Kalan
[49:05]
I saw a movie from the 30s I enjoyed.
[49:07]
What a surprise.
[49:09]
It's called Dante's Inferno, starring Spencer Tracy, which has its slow parts, but it is
[49:15]
basically about a man who is...
[49:19]
It's about a volcano.
[49:20]
No, no.
[49:21]
It's about...
[49:22]
This guy is a kind of...
[49:23]
Star James Bond.
[49:24]
An amoral, greedy guy who works his way up from being the stoker in a ship's boiler room
[49:30]
to running this carnival concession called Dante's Inferno that's like...
[49:35]
It's supposed to have a moral message, but it's basically a haunted house based on Dante's work.
[49:40]
And Spencer Tracy, you know, hurts people on his way to the top and then he has to pay for it later.
[49:46]
But there's some neat scenes, especially one...
[49:48]
There's about a 10 minute sequence in the middle that's the best known part of the film where it's basically a wordless, just kind of fantasia of going through the inferno as described by Dante.
[50:01]
And these very beautifully done black and white scenes with pretty good special effects and fire and people wailing in torment turning into trees and things like that.
[50:11]
It's a very neat scene.
[50:13]
So it's worth looking up that movie for that scene alone.
[50:15]
But the whole movie is kind of fun in an overly melodramatic way.
Dan McCoy
[50:20]
All right.
[50:20]
Stuart, what do you got?
Stuart Wellington
[50:22]
I'm going to recommend a New Zealand film called Once Were Warriors about Maori people in New Zealand.
[50:31]
And it's kind of sad and pretty depressing.
[50:36]
And it's about a family just kind of falling apart.
[50:39]
And it features a lot of kind of difficult scenes and a lot of difficult moments.
[50:44]
And it has some moments of revenge that feel so incredibly hollow that you don't really enjoy them at all.
[50:53]
So, yeah.
[50:54]
Once Were Warriors if you want to feel kind of depressed.
Dan McCoy
[50:56]
Okay.
[50:58]
And Dash, do you have anything to do with that?
[50:59]
Oh, yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[51:00]
And real quick.
[51:01]
It stars the dude who played Jango Fett in the Star Wars prequels.
Elliott Kalan
[51:06]
Okay.
[51:06]
Now I'm sold.
[51:07]
Everyone's favorite actor.
[51:09]
Everyone's favorite Fett, Jango.
S4
[51:13]
Yeah.
[51:13]
I just moved and I found a DVD that I had been missing for a long time called...
[51:19]
It has two titles.
[51:20]
It's either Spooky Encounters or Close Encounters of the Spooky Kind.
[51:24]
I like it.
[51:25]
It stars Chao Yun-Fat.
[51:26]
Okay.
[51:26]
From the 70s.
[51:27]
It's just an awesome, goofy kung fu movie with ghosts.
[51:31]
If you can find it, check it out.
[51:33]
Hmm.
[51:33]
That's pretty good.
Elliott Kalan
[51:34]
Based on the title, I think of it.
S4
[51:36]
Yeah.
[51:36]
It's really funny and there's some sweet, sweet kung fu in it.
[51:41]
Wait, it's spooky though, right?
[51:43]
Oh, definitely.
Dan McCoy
[51:43]
Kung fu and ghosts.
[51:45]
That sounds good.
Elliott Kalan
[51:47]
Yeah.
[51:47]
Kung fu ghost.
[51:48]
Karate Kid Part 5.
[51:50]
You sold your second pitch.
[51:51]
I was selling so many screenplays.
[51:52]
I knew so much better than Ziggy did.
[51:55]
Oh, man.
Dan McCoy
[51:56]
So, guys.
[51:57]
Wow.
Elliott Kalan
[51:58]
We did it.
[51:58]
I feel like we should have Saturday Night Live type music that plays now.
[52:01]
Where we like hug each other and tell like...
[52:03]
Sure.
[52:03]
It's really an experience.
Stuart Wellington
[52:04]
That's why they call it the blues.
[52:08]
Oh, man.
Dan McCoy
[52:08]
We're going to have to pay Elton John so much money for the...
[52:12]
Oh, sorry.
Stuart Wellington
[52:13]
Sorry.
[52:13]
It's like the music I imagine they play though.
[52:15]
Yeah.
[52:16]
Well, no.
Elliott Kalan
[52:16]
They play that...
[52:17]
Dun-dun.
[52:18]
Dun-dun.
[52:19]
Dun-dun.
[52:20]
Dun-dun.
[52:20]
Well, we had a great show tonight.
[52:21]
I'm James Franco.
Dan McCoy
[52:22]
We're going to pay G.E. Smith so much money.
Elliott Kalan
[52:26]
Well, we'll use some public domain music.
[52:28]
Happy birthday to you.
[52:29]
All right.
[52:30]
That's not public domain.
[52:30]
Oh, no.
Dan McCoy
[52:32]
So, we're what?
[52:33]
This is 51.
[52:34]
This is 51, right?
[52:35]
This is 51.
[52:36]
Ooh.
[52:36]
Six away from Heinz.
[52:37]
Man.
[52:38]
We're officially deep into middle age now.
[52:41]
I'm deep into middle age.
Elliott Kalan
[52:42]
Well, I mean, you kind of are.
Dan McCoy
[52:44]
Oh, God.
[52:45]
All right.
[52:45]
Well, I'd like to thank Dash, our contest winner, for coming.
[52:49]
Thanks for having me, guys.
[52:51]
Thank you.
Elliott Kalan
[52:52]
Out to here.
[52:53]
Hope you enjoyed the Flophouse...
[52:54]
The Flopsperience.
[52:55]
Oh, it was a ton of Flophouse.
[52:56]
The Popeyes and...
[52:57]
Welcome to the Flophouse, Dash.
[52:59]
Hope you survive.
Dan McCoy
[53:02]
That's an old X-Men thing.
[53:03]
And, uh, yeah.
[53:05]
I guess we should sign off.
[53:06]
I've been Dan McCoy.
Elliott Kalan
[53:08]
I'm Stuart Wellington.
[53:09]
I will always be Elliot Kalin.
[53:12]
Thanks for having me.
[53:12]
I'm Dash.
[53:13]
Good night, guys.
Stuart Wellington
[53:19]
Do you think female porn stars ever wear Merkins?
[53:21]
No, no.
[53:22]
Do you think they ever wear Merkins when they have sex with non-porn stars to, like, disguise
[53:25]
their identity?
Elliott Kalan
[53:27]
I don't understand why they would want to do that.
Stuart Wellington
[53:29]
You know, like, how, like, a famous person might wear a mustache.
[53:33]
Dude, did you wipe down your hair when you're in the bathroom?
[53:36]
Yeah, I was a little hot.
[53:38]
Yeah.
[53:38]
Um, and I'm nervous.
[53:40]
I thought you were...
[53:40]
This is a big podcast.
[53:41]
This is Wolverine Origins.
[53:43]
I thought you didn't like your boy haircut that you had.
[53:44]
I don't particularly.
Dan McCoy
[53:45]
Oh, it's adorable.
[53:46]
Oh, I like your haircut.
Stuart Wellington
[53:47]
But the girls like it.
[53:49]
So, what am I gonna do?
[53:51]
Try and keep it real?
[53:54]
I don't think so.
[53:55]
I'm not sure in this context, yeah.
[53:57]
That phrase doesn't mean anything.
Elliott Kalan
[53:58]
If this was the movie Clueless, it would mean shaving your head.
[54:01]
But that's...
[54:01]
Yeah.
[54:02]
Wait, really?
[54:03]
Well, because he's shaving his head and his explanation is because he's keeping it real.
[54:05]
Oh, yeah!
[54:06]
The guy from the Scrubs show.
[54:07]
Yeah, yeah, Scrubsy.
[54:08]
The funny guy.
[54:09]
Yeah.
[54:10]
They call him...
[54:10]
Faison Stun.
[54:11]
That's his name.
Stuart Wellington
[54:12]
Why do they call him that?
[54:13]
Nope.
[54:13]
Stacey Dash is in that.
Description
0:00 - 0:32 - Introductions and Theme0:33 - 1:37 - We introduce our special guest, Flop House contest winner Dash.1:38 - 43:35 - As four comic book nerds, we find far too much to say about X-Men Origins: Wolverine.43:46 - 45:55 - Final Judgments45:56 - 51:55 - The sad bastards recommend.51:56 - 54:19 - Goodbyes, theme, and outtakes.
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