The Flop House: Episode #52 - Dragonball: Evolution

Dan McCoy

[0:00] In this episode, we discuss Dragon Ball Evolution, the movie that inspired Ben Stein to make his hit film, Dragon Ball Intelligent Design.

[0:30] Dragon Ball Intelligent Design

Stuart Wellington

[1:00] Although it sounds shockingly like my Daniel Craig accent.

[1:03] Hello, hello, apples and pears.

Dan McCoy

[1:06] Sure.

[1:07] Man, I'm getting home sick to your stuff.

Stuart Wellington

[1:09] I know, I'll try.

Dan McCoy

[1:10] Yeah, Daniel Craig, of course, talks entirely in Cockney rhyming slang.

Stuart Wellington

[1:14] Which I would try to affect, but I'm not smart or funny enough to do that.

S3

[1:20] I did think you were down with Craig when you answered the door.

[1:22] I know, right?

Stuart Wellington

[1:23] It's because I had my shirt off.

[1:25] Totally ripped.

[1:26] Yeah, shredded up.

Dan McCoy

[1:28] Now, Nigel, you're Stuart's boss.

[1:32] He was my boss.

[1:33] Oh, was your boss.

[1:33] In a former life, yes.

[1:35] Okay.

Stuart Wellington

[1:36] Now he's a transporter.

[1:38] What?

[1:39] Now he's a transporter like Jason Statham.

[1:41] Never look at the package.

[1:42] Yeah, he never looks at the package.

Dan McCoy

[1:44] Oh, okay.

[1:45] I thought he was your current boss, in which case I was going to ask him whether, A, you were trying to suck up to him by having him as a guest,

[1:52] or B, he had compelled you to have him as a guest.

Stuart Wellington

[1:56] No, I'm trying to get him into bed, Dan.

[1:58] Oh, okay.

[1:59] And I thought maybe getting him on our popular podcast where we review bad movies.

[2:04] Feed me a couple of weak beers.

[2:06] Yeah, feed him a couple of Miller Highlights.

[2:07] How's it going so far, Nigel?

[2:09] He's looking better all the time.

[2:11] Miller Highlights.

[2:12] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[2:13] Miller Highlights.

[2:14] Yes, indeed.

[2:17] Well, guys, it's been a while since I've seen you, Stuart.

[2:22] And this is the first time you've met Nigel.

[2:24] Yeah.

[2:24] It's been half a month since I've seen you.

[2:26] It's been never since I've met Nigel.

[2:28] I've got one question.

[2:30] What's up?

[2:31] That I need to ask you.

[2:32] Sure.

[2:33] Did you hear about the Morgans?

[2:37] After what fashion, Dan?

[2:39] Well, from what I hear, they had to go into the Witness Relocation Program.

[2:47] Are you getting paid to plug a movie?

Stuart Wellington

[2:51] That stars a national treasure.

[2:53] A national treasure from England, Hugh Grant.

Dan McCoy

[2:56] Yeah, no.

[2:56] Well, I heard that in that film, Hugh Grant is forced to go to a rodeo.

S3

[3:02] How did that make you feel?

[3:03] Well, I mean, we have rodeos all the time in England.

[3:06] I mean, that's pretty easy for it.

[3:08] Really?

Stuart Wellington

[3:08] All right.

[3:09] Well.

[3:11] What do you ride like?

[3:12] Like camels or zebras or something?

S3

[3:14] Yeah.

[3:14] Usually, yeah.

[3:15] Like polo ponies.

[3:17] Polo ponies.

[3:18] Okay.

[3:18] And corgis.

Stuart Wellington

[3:20] Little Welsh corgis.

[3:21] Little Welsh corgis.

[3:22] Wow.

Dan McCoy

[3:24] See, you're destroying all kinds of cherished American stereotypes about our cousins.

[3:31] Bad teeth.

[3:32] Right.

[3:33] Across the pond.

[3:34] Yep.

[3:35] What else?

S3

[3:36] Actually, I don't like rodeos, basically.

[3:38] I don't think I can drink this beer.

[3:39] It's not warm.

Stuart Wellington

[3:40] Oh, yeah.

[3:41] That's another one.

[3:43] Right.

[3:43] I got it.

[3:44] That's good.

[3:45] Yep.

[3:45] Hi, guys.

[3:46] So, we watched a movie tonight, Dan.

[3:48] Did we?

[3:48] Yeah.

[3:49] No, we did.

[3:49] Okay.

[3:50] I'm pretty sure.

[3:51] It's already left my brain.

S3

[3:52] I watched 90 minutes of random scenes.

[3:54] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[3:56] I mean, most of the time I was looking at my phone or looking at the art you have hanging

[4:00] around your well-appointed home.

[4:02] Thank you.

Dan McCoy

[4:03] Well, yeah.

[4:04] Stuart said it was as if we put a DVD in and we hit shuffle more than we watched a coherent

[4:12] series of dramatic events that moved from .1 to .2 and so forth.

[4:18] That's true.

[4:19] That's true.

Stuart Wellington

[4:19] I would say it's a collection of scenes, but they weren't really scenes, actually.

[4:23] They were just shots of stuff happening.

[4:25] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[4:26] Just a bunch of stuff that happened.

[4:28] Yeah.

[4:28] It was called Dragon Ball Evolution or Evolution, depending on your pronunciation preference.

Stuart Wellington

[4:35] Yeah.

[4:36] So, is it about Charles Darwin's theory of evolution?

[4:41] I'm trying to remember.

[4:42] Yeah.

[4:43] Do you want to recap the film for us?

[4:44] Maybe have Nigel do it?

[4:47] In his sultry baritone voice?

[4:50] I wouldn't even know what to stop.

[4:51] Okay.

[4:52] So, Dan goes.

Dan McCoy

[4:54] Thanks.

[4:55] Yeah, sure.

[4:55] In Elliot's absence, frequent Flophouse listeners know that Elliot is the best of all of us at

[5:01] being able to parse the plots of these movies.

[5:05] He's also the shortest.

[5:06] Yeah.

[5:06] It might have something to do with the fact that he stays the soberest while we're watching

[5:11] these films.

[5:13] But...

[5:13] Stuart, let's split it here.

[5:15] Stuart is shaking his head.

[5:16] Surely not.

[5:17] But, um...

[5:18] So, this is a movie about a young gentleman who looks like Billy Boyd.

[5:24] Sure.

[5:24] Pippin from the Lord of the Rings films.

[5:29] And he lives in some indeterminate place.

[5:34] Maybe...

[5:35] Maybe...

[5:35] Maybe I'll get to Maggie's house.

[5:36] Yeah, maybe Asia.

[5:38] Maybe America.

[5:39] Who knows?

[5:41] Um...

[5:41] He is Caucasian, but his grandfather is an Asian gentleman.

[5:47] Who has a merkin on his chin.

[5:49] Mm-hmm.

[5:49] Well, it's a...

Stuart Wellington

[5:51] It's like a blonde merkin.

Dan McCoy

[5:52] It's a soul patch that looks like a merkin.

[5:55] Yeah, I mean, it looks like carpet.

[5:56] Yeah.

S3

[5:57] Maybe he had, like, some cosmetic work and they pulled the skin so tight it went all the

[6:00] way up to his chin.

[6:01] That's a really good idea.

Stuart Wellington

[6:03] Wait, from his chest or from his pubis?

[6:05] From all the way down.

[6:05] Yes, from all the way down.

[6:06] Sure, all the way down there.

[6:08] That makes...

[6:09] I guess that makes sense.

S3

[6:10] His nipples would be on his shoulders.

[6:11] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[6:12] That's plausible.

[6:13] Wow, that's really tight.

[6:15] But, so he is...

[6:17] I mean, they didn't go into that in the movie, right?

[6:18] I didn't...

[6:19] I didn't miss that part.

[6:20] They didn't talk about his cosmetic work in the movie, right?

[6:22] No, that was...

Dan McCoy

[6:23] That was a deleted subplot.

[6:25] That was assumed.

[6:27] But, um...

[6:27] I guess that Billy Boyd, as I would call him, was supposed to be a high school aged person.

[6:35] Yeah, he goes to like...

[6:35] He was turning 18.

S3

[6:36] Oh, okay.

[6:37] Gone there kind of plot points.

[6:38] So he's old enough to party.

Dan McCoy

[6:39] Yeah.

[6:40] I mean, it's confusing in that movie way that things are confusing when people are always

[6:43] playing below their ages.

[6:47] But, uh...

[6:47] So he is a kung fu master because his grandfather has taught him.

[6:54] But he's not allowed to use this.

[6:56] Because his grandfather does not want him raising his fists in anger against other people, I guess.

[7:01] And so...

[7:02] But his grandfather gives him a Dragon Ball for his birthday.

[7:07] That's a pretty cool gift.

[7:08] Yeah, sure.

[7:09] What does it do?

[7:09] That's on my Amazon wish list.

[7:11] I have watched the entire film, Dragon Ball Evolution.

[7:14] I still have no idea what a Dragon Ball is supposed to do.

[7:18] But he's given one.

[7:19] Okay.

[7:21] And, uh...

[7:22] You know...

[7:23] He's a bit of a nerd at school.

[7:25] People think that he's a loser.

[7:27] Like a Peter Parker sort.

[7:28] Yeah, because he's not allowed to use his powers.

[7:31] He gets pushed around.

[7:32] Yeah, with great power comes great responsibility.

[7:35] But he is in love with Chi-Chi.

[7:39] Yeah, that's her name.

[7:39] Chi-Chi, right?

[7:40] Who is a...

S3

[7:41] Chi-Chi works at Flashdancers, doesn't he?

Stuart Wellington

[7:44] Anyway.

[7:44] I think she does.

[7:46] When she's not a karate-kicking high school student, by night she's Flashdancing...

[7:51] Wait, no.

[7:52] A dancer at Flashdancers.

Dan McCoy

[7:54] But she's an Asian young lady.

[7:56] Yeah.

[7:57] And like all Asian young ladies, she's also a kung fu...

[8:01] Master.

[8:01] But we don't learn about this until later.

[8:05] And by the way, all the martial arts in this film is centered around...

[8:11] Are fantastic.

[8:13] They're all centered around Chi.

[8:15] Which I guess is a different way of pronouncing Chi.

[8:17] Yeah, it's like magic, right?

[8:19] Sure.

[8:20] Lifeless.

Stuart Wellington

[8:20] You've studied it in the Orient, Nigel.

[8:24] I don't like to talk about it.

[8:26] Oh, okay.

[8:27] Yeah, you got me.

[8:28] Okay.

[8:29] It's a lot like...

S3

[8:29] He literally doesn't like to talk about it.

[8:31] That's it, yeah.

[8:32] Can't talk about that.

[8:33] But...

Dan McCoy

[8:33] Sure.

[8:35] So, you know, the Peter Parker-esque character, you know, he goes to a party to meet with Chi-Chi,

[8:42] and he manages to beat up a bunch of bullies by not touching them at all.

[8:46] Sure.

[8:46] Like Gandhi.

[8:47] Yeah, basically compelling them to beat each other up.

S3

[8:50] Just like...

[8:51] Are you comparing the beating up of five high school kids with bringing you down to the British Empire?

[8:56] Absolutely.

[8:57] Okay, cool.

Dan McCoy

[8:58] And when he gets home, he finds that his grandfather is near death.

[9:03] It's a very Luke Skywalker and Star Wars sort of situation.

[9:07] Yeah, a fatal case of house collapsing on him.

[9:12] And he discovers this is because of the Dragon Balls.

[9:15] There's an evil gentleman by the name of Piccolo.

[9:19] Yeah, Lord Piccolo.

[9:20] He has a title.

[9:22] The most evil sounding name there could be, the small flute in the orchestra, Piccolo.

[9:29] He looks like Jombi from Pee Wee.

[9:32] He does a little more...

[9:34] I mean, a little...

[9:35] I mean, he's got a body, unlike Jombi.

[9:37] Yeah, he's not confined to a box.

[9:40] He's not in a box.

[9:43] But, so Jombi Piccolo wants to take over the world, and he wants to get the Dragon Balls.

[9:48] So, that's why Grandpa has to get out of the...

[9:52] Has to go.

[9:53] Yeah.

[9:54] So, Billy Boyd buries the grandfather, and he comes back to his crushed house to find this...

Stuart Wellington

[10:03] I mean, that's a good way of getting out and getting out and having to pay, like, you know,

[10:07] like, paying for coffin.

[10:07] Well, even a funeral's pretty expensive.

[10:09] Yeah, it's really expensive.

[10:10] And, I mean, he's 18.

[10:12] Like, I don't even think he has a job.

[10:14] He wouldn't be able to afford that.

Dan McCoy

[10:15] Yeah, I don't know how he's going to survive, actually, after his grandpa was going to...

Stuart Wellington

[10:17] I mean, all his grandpa seems to do is, like, farm, like, oranges or something, and, like,

[10:22] move his rocks around in the garden.

Dan McCoy

[10:25] Teach martial arts.

Stuart Wellington

[10:26] Yeah, I mean, but he doesn't do...

[10:27] It doesn't seem like he does that professionally.

[10:29] How do you pay for the cosmetic work?

[10:31] Yeah, that's true.

[10:32] Maybe it was...

[10:34] I have no idea.

[10:35] I can't even begin to suggest...

[10:36] Maybe he had all seven of the Dragon Balls, and he, like, he pawned them.

[10:39] I don't know.

Dan McCoy

[10:39] Yeah, that's actually a pretty good idea.

[10:41] If Billy Boyd comes back...

[10:43] It's not Billy Boyd, by the way.

[10:45] I think he's the guy who starred in the hit film...

[10:49] Oh, shit.

[10:51] The Invisible, or whatever, that shitty David Goyer film.

[10:56] I think that's the same actor.

Stuart Wellington

[10:57] What, the movie about the little kid, the kid who gets killed, and then he has to, like...

[11:00] I think it's the same actor.

[11:01] It's like Lovely Bones, but with a high school kid.

Dan McCoy

[11:04] Anyway, but the guy who looks like Billy Boyd comes back home...

[11:07] We'll just keep calling him Billy Boyd.

[11:08] Yeah.

[11:09] That's good.

[11:10] And he finds this girl...

Stuart Wellington

[11:12] I mean, his character's name is Goku, though.

[11:14] Goku.

[11:14] You can call him that.

Dan McCoy

[11:15] Goku.

[11:16] Despite being a Caucasian gentleman, his name is Goku.

[11:19] I mean, his grandpa was Asian, right?

[11:22] Yeah, but he clearly has no Asian background.

[11:25] Yeah.

[11:26] Like, racially, you can look at him and say that this man has been Caucasian for the last

[11:32] five or six generations.

Stuart Wellington

[11:34] Could be cosmetic work, though.

[11:37] We're throwing cosmetic work around a lot here.

[11:39] I mean, it's possible.

Dan McCoy

[11:40] But Goku returns home.

[11:42] He finds a sassy lady in his house with a punk rock bright pink stripe in her hair.

Stuart Wellington

[11:50] I think you need to reevaluate your definition of punk rock a little.

Dan McCoy

[11:55] Well, she's got dyed hair.

[11:56] That's all I'm saying.

[11:57] Okay.

S3

[11:58] One of the suicide guilds is there waiting for him.

[12:00] Yes.

Dan McCoy

[12:02] And she is there.

[12:03] She's got some guns.

[12:04] Yeah, she's shooting up the place.

[12:06] She's looking for the Dragon Ball because she has some sort of physics thing.

[12:10] She thinks it's a source of power.

[12:12] Who the fuck knows?

[12:13] She has a Dragon Ball locator, by the way, which is like a Ghostbusters EKG meter or something.

[12:19] I thought it was PKE meter.

[12:19] PKE.

[12:20] EKG is an actual thing.

[12:21] Yeah, it's an electrocardiogram.

[12:23] Okay.

[12:24] Fair enough, Stuart.

[12:25] So they team up for some reason after fighting.

[12:30] In Time Honored comic book description, they fight for a while and they decide that they're friends.

[12:34] It's like Wolverine and the Punisher.

[12:36] And then they use the...

[12:38] But without the charisma.

[12:40] Then they use the Dragon Ball locator to find Chow Yun-Fat, who's the guy...

[12:46] He's doing this one as a favor to somebody.

[12:49] Yeah.

[12:49] Who's drunk somewhere.

[12:52] Who wears a lot of Hawaiian shirts.

[12:54] Waiting for John Woo to call him back.

S3

[12:54] They find him unconscious, smashed, covered in stroke bags.

[12:59] I mean, I don't quite understand what they...

Dan McCoy

[13:01] Well, he's also supposed to be the guy who trained his grandfather, despite being several years younger, obviously.

Stuart Wellington

[13:06] Maybe he used the key to keep himself young.

[13:10] He's going in the blanks for us.

Dan McCoy

[13:12] Yeah, I guess.

[13:12] But he's got another Dragon Ball.

[13:14] I don't know shit.

[13:16] And then they go out into the desert for some reason.

[13:19] And they fight for a while, too, right?

[13:21] Yeah, they fight for a while.

[13:22] They have to battle for a while.

[13:24] Then they go out into the desert, where they find Chi-Chi, who is in the middle of some sort of martial arts fight club, preparing for a tournament.

[13:34] That sounds right.

[13:34] And then I sort of missed something.

[13:36] The next thing that happened was they're down a hole.

[13:39] You might have been making popcorn.

[13:40] I was making popcorn on it.

Stuart Wellington

[13:41] Yeah, they fell down a cleverly disguised hole that was made by this weird bandit character.

[13:47] About 3,000 years ago, because there was quite a bit of weathering on those walls.

[13:52] And he didn't really disguise it.

[13:54] They just drove right into it.

[13:56] They drove into a gigantic hole.

[13:57] And then he tried to extort them to give them a ladder.

[14:01] He tried to get their car, but then somehow they convince him to come down.

[14:07] And he drills through a rock wall with this weird power drill.

[14:11] Because the location goes off saying there's another Dragon Ball.

Dan McCoy

[14:14] Which is the whole center of the earth, I guess.

[14:16] They end up in the center of the earth.

[14:19] Because there's a bunch of lava.

Stuart Wellington

[14:21] A bunch of people fight them.

[14:22] And an undetermined roof.

[14:25] It looks like the fucking sky above them.

Dan McCoy

[14:27] It's like they're in fucking Mordor.

[14:29] So imagine a bunch of lava.

[14:31] And they fight all these enemies.

[14:34] And the corpses of the enemies fall in the lava.

[14:37] And then Goku leaps across the lava.

[14:40] Makes a bridge of the corpses.

[14:42] Doesn't burn up.

[14:45] Jumps across them.

[14:46] Finds another Dragon Ball.

[14:47] Sure.

[14:48] And then they go out.

Stuart Wellington

[14:49] So it sounds like he's got a lot of these balls by now.

Dan McCoy

[14:52] He's got a shitload of balls.

[14:53] He's got the hands all over them.

[14:56] And again.

[14:58] You think that I'm just having a terrible time.

[15:03] Synopsizing this film in Elliot's absence.

[15:05] But no.

[15:06] It was just the most disjointed narrative you can imagine.

[15:10] And so then what happens, Stuart?

[15:12] Oh shit.

S3

[15:13] The balls get stolen.

Dan McCoy

[15:14] Oh, the balls got stolen.

S3

[15:15] Immediately after they find the ball in Mordor.

[15:17] Yeah.

[15:18] All the balls get stolen by the chick in the leather catsuit.

Stuart Wellington

[15:21] Yeah.

[15:21] But she like tricked him by like morphing into another chick, right?

[15:24] No.

[15:24] That was later.

[15:25] Oh, okay.

[15:26] So she stole something.

[15:27] Then what happened?

Dan McCoy

[15:29] Well, there.

[15:29] Yeah.

[15:30] Then later on there is a point where the evil girl takes the form of Chi-Chi.

[15:35] Yep.

[15:35] And fights Chi-Chi.

[15:37] Sure.

[15:38] That makes sense.

[15:38] And then runs off with all the Dragon Balls.

Stuart Wellington

[15:40] There was that scene where he was trying to set things on fire with his magic fireballs

[15:45] and he wasn't doing a very good job until...

[15:48] Shield for him a little bit of play.

[15:50] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[15:51] He had the incentive of potentially having sexual intercourse with Chi-Chi and then he

[15:56] was very good at shooting fireballs.

Dan McCoy

[15:58] Yeah.

[15:58] Do you remember that, Dan?

[15:59] Yeah.

[15:59] With every fireball he was able to shoot, he would take another step towards her.

Stuart Wellington

[16:04] Yeah, he was able to get a little bit closer.

Dan McCoy

[16:06] Very Shakespearean, I guess, in that regard.

[16:08] Yeah.

[16:10] So that happened.

Stuart Wellington

[16:13] But then when she was in that form, she stole all those balls, right?

[16:17] Yeah, she stole all the Dragon Balls.

S3

[16:20] The evil grandpa killing woman disguised as Chi-Chi.

[16:26] She battles Chi-Chi, steals the balls.

Stuart Wellington

[16:28] Yep.

[16:28] And then our main character beats up the girl that he's in love with.

[16:32] Right.

[16:32] Because he thinks she's the evil girl or something.

Dan McCoy

[16:36] And in the meantime, also, the bandit character who had that hole has somehow become part of

[16:43] our hero team.

[16:44] Mm-hmm.

[16:45] Yep.

[16:45] And is romantically involved with the girl with the punk rock pink stripe in her hair.

[16:50] Sure.

Stuart Wellington

[16:51] And the PKE meter.

[16:53] Mm-hmm.

[16:54] Yeah.

[16:54] Dragon Ball locator.

Dan McCoy

[16:55] And then, so, then they all go into another desert-y area.

[17:00] Sure.

[17:01] And they have a big fight.

[17:03] Whereupon, Goku turns into a demon.

Stuart Wellington

[17:07] Yeah, I mean, it looks like kind of like a sad werewolf.

Dan McCoy

[17:09] Yeah.

[17:10] The secret, apparently the secret of Goku is that he was found as a youth and he was actually

[17:16] like this demon character.

[17:19] But the goodness in his heart wins out.

[17:23] And he fights Jombie.

[17:25] Like nature versus nurture.

[17:26] Mm-hmm.

[17:26] Or nurture versus nature.

[17:28] Yeah.

[17:28] And at the end, he defeats the bad guy and he gets all of the Dragon Balls together,

[17:34] which allows him to bring Chaoyun Fat back to life, who had died in the middle of this

[17:39] desert battle.

Stuart Wellington

[17:40] Yeah, he got blown up like his little stove blew up or something.

[17:45] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[17:46] His little magic stove exploded.

[17:49] So, you at home, you listeners at home, have long since stopped paying attention to what

[17:55] we were saying.

[17:57] None of it makes any sense.

[18:00] And in that sense...

Stuart Wellington

[18:01] And our voices are lulling them to sleep, I would imagine.

[18:04] Our sweet baritone voices.

[18:07] Without Elliot's fast, whiny, high-pitched voice.

Dan McCoy

[18:10] Yeah, to act as the tweeter to our subwoofers.

[18:14] Sure, yeah.

[18:16] But in so much as we've confused you, we have accurately reproduced the sensation...

[18:22] Out of confusion.

[18:23] Yeah.

[18:24] Yeah, of watching Dragon Ball Evolution.

Stuart Wellington

[18:27] So this movie was based on a comic book or a cartoon or something, I think?

Dan McCoy

[18:33] I guess.

[18:34] That was the thing.

[18:35] I think so.

Stuart Wellington

[18:36] I mean, I think it's based on a cartoon, right?

[18:39] Yeah.

S3

[18:40] There's a cartoon.

[18:41] I think there is a comic book as well.

Stuart Wellington

[18:43] Okay.

[18:43] Yeah.

[18:44] So how do you feel...

[18:45] If this is a movie that is based on a Japanese cartoon, how well do you think it captures

[18:52] the spirit of that experience of watching a shitty Japanese cartoon?

Dan McCoy

[18:56] Well, I think it captured it excellently in the sense that whenever I come across a lousy

[19:01] Japanese cartoon, I watch it and I start getting a headache and I have no idea what's happening.

Stuart Wellington

[19:07] Well, it's probably because you're watching it while sitting upside down on your couch.

[19:12] Because all the blood's rushing to your head, Dan.

[19:14] That's why you're getting a headache.

[19:15] I should sit upright.

[19:17] Yeah, you should.

Dan McCoy

[19:18] I don't know what you're doing.

[19:19] But I feel confused.

[19:22] Sure.

[19:23] I mean, this movie appeared to be several million dollars in the making.

[19:28] They threw some money at it, definitely.

[19:30] Yeah, but it was made clearly only for those people who were already familiar with the Dragon

[19:36] Ball concept.

Stuart Wellington

[19:38] Or a child, maybe.

[19:39] A child who just wants to see colors.

[19:42] Because there's a lot of bright colors in this movie.

Dan McCoy

[19:43] Well, it seemed like episode 12 of the Dragon Ball series.

[19:48] Like a Buckaroo Banzai type thing.

[19:49] Yeah.

[19:50] But not like they were doing that as an artistic choice.

[19:53] Like Buckaroo Banzai where they're like, you know what I really love is those old serials.

[19:57] I'm going to make a movie that feels like we're coming in the middle.

[19:59] Like this movie actually was coming in the middle and they didn't bother explaining anything.

Stuart Wellington

[20:06] But at least unlike Dragon Wars, we didn't have like 40 minutes of fucking exposition to

[20:12] begin the movie.

[20:14] No.

[20:14] All read by...

[20:15] It was like 30 seconds at the beginning.

[20:18] Yep.

[20:18] And then after telling us the history of this story, they then had the main character's

[20:25] grandfather say, the first rule is...

[20:27] There are no rules.

[20:28] There are no rules.

[20:30] Yeah.

[20:31] Which I think kind of excuses the entire movie at that point because then you don't have to

[20:35] worry about any logic.

[20:36] There are no rules to movie making.

[20:38] Yeah.

[20:39] Plot.

[20:40] Who gives a fuck?

[20:41] Love and twist.

[20:41] Continuity.

[20:41] You can kick her in the face and she'll still love you.

[20:43] Yeah.

[20:44] The 180 degree rule.

[20:46] Mm-hmm.

Dan McCoy

[20:47] Not even that one.

[20:47] Wait, what's the 180 degree rule?

[20:49] Well, you don't want to cut across the 180 degree mark.

[20:52] If you're editing a film, if you suddenly flip the geographic location of someone inside

[20:58] the frame, that creates a discontinuity in the viewer's mind, Stuart.

[21:04] And they broke that rule?

[21:05] I don't think that.

[21:06] I think that actually they probably...

[21:08] 180 degree rule was one of the things that they kept intact.

[21:11] Oh, that's good.

[21:13] The director, James Wong...

[21:15] He's made movies before.

[21:16] He's made movies before.

[21:17] He directed Final Destination.

S3

[21:19] Is James Wong a 12-year-old boy?

Dan McCoy

[21:23] He could...

[21:24] I don't know, Dan.

[21:26] I mean, yeah.

[21:26] I don't...

[21:27] I guess I don't...

[21:28] I don't know anybody like James.

Stuart Wellington

[21:29] I'm assuming not since he's a professional movie director.

Dan McCoy

[21:32] I'm assuming not since he was a writer for the X-Files.

[21:35] Oh, he was a writer for the X-Files.

[21:37] That was a show that was on in the 90s.

[21:40] It seems like...

[21:41] It's true.

[21:42] He'd probably be a little older.

S3

[21:43] Maybe we should call Dana and Scully and ask them what the hell went on in the last nine minutes.

Stuart Wellington

[21:50] Maybe.

[21:51] Wait, Mulder and Scully.

S3

[21:53] Oh, Dana Scully is the girl's name.

[21:56] Gillian Anderson, right?

Dan McCoy

[21:57] Well, that's the actress's name.

[21:58] Nigel just wants to call Dana Scully.

[22:00] I mean, Mulder...

[22:02] You can take her leave.

[22:03] Yeah, I don't really care about him.

S3

[22:04] Yeah, just call Dana...

[22:06] Let's just call Dana Scully and get her over there.

[22:07] I mean, when she's 80 years old, she's going to be beyond smoking.

[22:11] Have you seen her recently?

Stuart Wellington

[22:11] Yeah, she gets hotter as she gets older.

[22:13] She gets hotter as she gets older.

[22:13] And she takes her clothes off more often.

Dan McCoy

[22:15] Yeah, but she gets blonder as she gets older.

[22:17] I don't care for that.

[22:19] Well, just fucking wear...

[22:19] I like her as a redhead.

[22:21] Wear, like, red sunglasses, too.

S3

[22:23] Do the color on the cuffs match?

[22:24] Yeah, that's the thing.

[22:26] I mean, she's doing more nudity.

[22:27] I mean, I'm curious.

Stuart Wellington

[22:29] All right.

[22:29] You should check it out.

[22:30] All right, Stuart.

[22:31] Don't give me those...

[22:32] Maybe she'll pose in a lad's mag.

[22:34] Maybe.

[22:36] Maybe if we're lucky.

[22:36] Maybe she'll get a merkin from the same place that Grandpa got his.

[22:39] That's a blonde merkin, though.

[22:40] I don't want a blonde merkin.

[22:42] It'd look weird with my hair.

[22:43] And my chest hair.

[22:45] So, Dan, you were talking about something.

[22:47] I don't think I was, but...

[22:49] Okay, so, yeah.

[22:49] I mean, it did kind of feel like watching a shitty Japanese cartoon.

[22:53] There was a lot of bright colors.

[22:55] There wasn't...

[22:56] It didn't really slow down to do anything, so it wasn't really boring.

[23:00] There was a lot...

[23:01] Like, it did feel like a bunch of really fast little stories.

[23:04] Like, little adventures.

[23:05] Kind of like a little video game.

S3

[23:08] You know sometimes when you watch a soap opera for so long,

[23:11] and you can go away for two weeks and come back,

[23:13] and you know what's going on.

[23:14] Right.

[23:15] I didn't leave this couch once, and I don't know what's going on.

[23:18] I mean, it's like the opposite of that.

Stuart Wellington

[23:21] Yeah.

[23:22] Yeah, I guess that's fair.

Dan McCoy

[23:24] Well, there would be scenes where you would feel like

[23:27] some sort of connective tissue had been eliminated.

[23:30] Like, as I said, the scenes where that guy who put them down that hole

[23:35] suddenly became part of their team, like a valued member of the group.

[23:40] Oh, speaking of, like, a team, you know who was in this movie?

[23:45] It was Ernie Hudson.

[23:47] Okay.

[23:48] Otherwise known as Winston Zedmore.

[23:49] Yeah.

[23:50] Of the Ghostbusters team.

S3

[23:51] Absolutely.

[23:52] He's dead to me now.

[23:54] Sure.

[23:54] Because he was a villain in this movie?

[23:56] Wait, he was a villain in this movie?

[23:57] He was a good guy.

[23:58] Wasn't he?

[23:58] Oh, he was a good guy.

Stuart Wellington

[23:59] He gave him the magic stove.

S3

[24:01] He was the...

[24:02] He was the mustard.

[24:03] Wasn't he?

[24:03] He was the mustard.

Stuart Wellington

[24:04] He was the mustard?

S3

[24:05] No, he was the master.

Stuart Wellington

[24:06] Okay, I thought you were like...

[24:07] Well, he was the mustard in the sandwich.

[24:09] Yeah, he was the mustard.

Dan McCoy

[24:10] He was mean, mustard, mustard.

S3

[24:11] Yeah, he was the mustard.

Stuart Wellington

[24:13] No, I...

[24:14] He was an integral part of the team, because, like, you can't have a good sandwich without

[24:17] mustard.

[24:18] I thought that's what you were meaning.

[24:19] Yeah.

[24:20] Maybe not.

[24:20] I was just trying to say master.

Dan McCoy

[24:22] Oh, okay.

[24:22] This is an indication of how incomprehensible the movie was at many points.

[24:28] I couldn't tell whether Ernie Hudson was a good guy or a bad guy.

Stuart Wellington

[24:32] Okay, I guess that's a fair critique of the film, Dan.

[24:36] Ernie Hudson has...

[24:38] What was the last movie he did before this?

[24:40] The Crow?

Dan McCoy

[24:42] Well, he must have been swimming past The Crow.

[24:46] I...

[24:46] The Hand That Rocks the Cradle?

[24:48] He replaced Keith David as the dad of one of the characters on Psych, a show that I watched

[24:56] for a couple of seasons and then stopped watching thereafter.

Stuart Wellington

[25:00] Okay.

[25:01] So, he's getting work, so he doesn't have a real...

[25:03] He has the occasional work.

[25:04] I mean, he doesn't really have an excuse here, or...

[25:07] I mean, this is a speaking part.

S3

[25:08] Yeah, sure.

[25:09] I mean...

[25:09] Maybe him and Chow Yun-Fat got busted with, like, a car full of guns or something.

[25:13] Sure.

[25:14] Or drugs.

[25:15] David Carradine's corpse.

[25:16] Or maybe...

[25:16] Yeah, David Carradine's corpse.

Stuart Wellington

[25:17] Britney Murphy's corpse.

Dan McCoy

[25:19] Maybe each of them was like...

[25:21] You know, one of them was like, I get to work with Chow Yun-Fat, and the other one

[25:25] was like, I get to work with Ernie Hudson.

[25:27] Yeah.

[25:27] It was like a gift of the Magi sort of situation.

[25:30] Absolutely.

[25:30] I don't think you read that story correctly.

[25:34] I think I understand it.

Stuart Wellington

[25:36] I think I get the gist of it.

[25:38] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[25:39] I watched...

[25:40] I saw Christmas Eve on Sesame Street, so I got a version of the story.

Stuart Wellington

[25:46] Oh, man.

[25:47] So, Dragon Balls.

[25:51] So, yeah.

[25:52] I don't really get it.

[25:53] I guess this is, like, a big deal in Japan.

[25:57] Like, I mean...

[25:58] I've heard of the thing, and there's probably video games based on this shit.

[26:02] Yeah.

[26:03] Oh, they like card games.

[26:04] There's a whole thing.

[26:05] There's a whole industry about Dragon Balls.

[26:06] Yeah, it's like the Pokemon.

Dan McCoy

[26:08] Yeah, well, I assume that any Japanese craze has some sort of card game involved in it.

[26:17] Yeah.

[26:18] It all seems based around ancillary products that you can purchase.

Stuart Wellington

[26:24] Yeah, I mean, we should pause our podcast and go into a Barnes & Noble, and I'm sure we

[26:28] would see, like, a ton of outcast-looking kids wearing trench coats sitting in the aisles

[26:33] reading the graphic novels.

[26:35] Right.

[26:35] And we could ask them how accurate the film is.

Dan McCoy

[26:38] Was Dragon Ball the...

[26:39] There was one Japanese cartoon that I watched just out of curiosity.

[26:45] I'm like, okay, this is a big thing.

[26:47] I'm going to watch it.

[26:47] I'm going to see it.

[26:48] Sure.

[26:48] Like, Dragon Ball might even have been the one.

[26:52] Like, there was one that I watched where it wasn't even...

[26:55] Didn't even have, like, the level of Pokemon where, like, the Pokemon is, like, the show,

[27:00] and then you've got a card game relating to the show.

[27:02] Okay.

[27:03] There was one where the cartoon was literally people playing a card game.

[27:07] I don't...

Stuart Wellington

[27:07] I don't think...

[27:08] I think that was Yu-Gi-Oh, Dan.

[27:09] Oh, Yu-Gi-Oh?

[27:10] That's Yu-Gi-Oh, yeah.

Dan McCoy

[27:11] I don't understand.

[27:12] How can they fucking get away with that?

Stuart Wellington

[27:14] Well, yeah.

[27:15] I mean, it's not...

[27:16] It's like...

[27:17] It's...

[27:17] At least Transformers, like, the toys are in the show, like, battling games.

[27:23] I mean, yeah.

Dan McCoy

[27:23] It's not like a World Poker Championship.

[27:25] It kind of is, like, World...

[27:27] It's a 13 game.

[27:27] It is.

[27:28] It's not like that.

Stuart Wellington

[27:30] Oh, man.

[27:30] That makes a lot of sense now that I think about it.

[27:33] But, yeah.

[27:34] That doesn't really make a story.

[27:36] Yeah.

[27:36] I mean, I guess the World Poker Championship has its own story.

[27:39] Sure.

[27:41] But we didn't really...

[27:42] We didn't...

[27:42] I mean, a better story than what we watched tonight.

Dan McCoy

[27:45] Oh, it hangs together better.

Stuart Wellington

[27:47] Yeah.

[27:47] My favorite part of the movie...

[27:49] Here's my memories of the movie.

[27:51] Is after...

[27:52] Is at the end where, you know, our main character has kicked his love interest in the face and knocked her out.

[27:58] And then he has been resuscitated with magic.

[28:00] And then he defeats the bad guy and, you know, saves the world.

[28:03] He then goes back to, you know, woo her again.

[28:07] And the first thing he says is, oh, I'm so sorry.

[28:11] I was in the heat of battle.

[28:13] I didn't know it was you.

[28:15] Which, come on, guys.

[28:17] We've all been there, you know.

[28:18] Sure.

[28:19] We've all used that excuse.

[28:20] It's how I met my life.

[28:21] Word for word.

[28:22] Yeah.

[28:24] Like, baby, I don't know.

[28:25] It was in the heat of battle.

S3

[28:26] Yeah.

[28:27] I think the highlight for me was Ernie Hudson's eyebrows.

Stuart Wellington

[28:31] Those were pretty awesome.

[28:32] Do you think those were natural or CGI?

[28:34] I think they are.

S3

[28:34] Yeah, I think they're natural.

Stuart Wellington

[28:36] CGI like George Lucas' kids.

[28:39] Or his beard.

[28:41] No, I think his beard's real.

[28:43] His hair is probably...

S3

[28:44] Wouldn't he CGI that goiter thing that he's got going on?

[28:46] Is it just me or does everyone else...

[28:48] He's got a waddle.

Stuart Wellington

[28:48] He's got...

[28:49] That's quite...

[28:50] I think that goes beyond that.

[28:52] That's...

S3

[28:52] No, I mean...

[28:53] It's like a big...

[28:54] It's like a baby.

Stuart Wellington

[28:55] Yeah, he's got plenty of money.

S3

[28:56] Well, it's like a rooster level of waddle that he has.

[28:59] Yeah.

[29:00] But it looks like full.

[29:01] It looks like something growing in there.

Stuart Wellington

[29:03] Yeah, maybe there is.

[29:05] Maybe there's Gungans living in there.

[29:06] Yeah.

[29:06] Or it's full of midichlorians.

[29:08] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[29:09] It could be full of midichlorians.

[29:10] Yep.

[29:11] George Lucas, if you're listening, we're worried about you.

[29:14] Get that thing checked out.

Stuart Wellington

[29:17] I don't know if you haven't looked in the mirror or anything, but that's not natural.

[29:22] Okay?

[29:22] Okay.

[29:23] You really should go to a doctor.

[29:25] Uh-huh.

[29:26] So, wake-up call.

[29:30] That's your health.

[29:32] Health knock on that door.

[29:33] You should answer it.

[29:35] Absolutely.

Dan McCoy

[29:36] Guys, do you think we have anything more to say about this?

Stuart Wellington

[29:38] No, are we almost done talking about this fucking movie?

[29:40] I was thoroughly confused from start to finish.

[29:43] But, I mean, it went pretty fast, I guess.

[29:46] That's a good thing.

[29:47] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[29:48] No, I mean, I think that we can make our judgments on it.

[29:51] We can make a final judgment on it, huh?

[29:54] The categories are, for our judgments.

[29:56] Okay, yeah.

[29:57] This is a good-bad movie.

[29:59] A bad-bad movie.

[30:01] Or a movie that you actually kind of liked in some way.

[30:04] Okay, can you clarify good-bad movie for me?

[30:07] Good-bad movie is a movie that, in its badness, it is funny and enjoyable.

[30:14] Okay.

[30:16] So, you got it?

[30:18] I got it.

Stuart Wellington

[30:18] Okay, you want to go first?

Dan McCoy

[30:20] Do I want to go first?

[30:21] I'll...

Stuart Wellington

[30:22] No, I'll go first.

[30:23] Okay.

[30:23] So, I'm going to go bad-bad movie on this one.

[30:28] You know, even though I think it's actually kind of effective at what it's trying to do,

[30:32] I didn't really actually enjoy any of it.

[30:35] And, even though it went pretty fast, you know, it's not...

[30:39] Yeah, not for me.

[30:40] It was clearly designed for somebody with no attention span.

S3

[30:43] Nigel?

[30:43] I think I'm going to have to go for bad-bad as well.

[30:47] As much as I enjoy, you know, 20-something girls with low-cut tops doing kung fu,

[30:53] you know, you can't polish a turd.

Stuart Wellington

[30:57] And that, for me...

[30:58] Did you use that line when you met your wife, too?

S3

[31:01] That was the clincher.

[31:02] That's what sealed the deal.

[31:05] Sure.

[31:06] Yeah, I was thoroughly confused.

[31:08] Stunk.

Dan McCoy

[31:11] I...

Stuart Wellington

[31:11] You're going to shake the boat?

Dan McCoy

[31:13] I'm going to totally shake the boat.

[31:14] I'm going to go totally crazy.

[31:16] I kind of like this movie.

Stuart Wellington

[31:17] Oh my god, 360.

Dan McCoy

[31:19] I didn't think it was...

[31:21] Now, like, I didn't think it was good, but I wouldn't put it as, like, a good-bad movie

[31:26] because I wasn't, like, laughing at it.

[31:29] But I kind of enjoyed its craziness.

[31:31] Okay.

[31:32] Like, if I was 11 years old, I would think this movie was awesome.

[31:36] And the narrative problems wouldn't bother me at all.

[31:40] And as an adult, the lack of any traditional narrative kind of simulated some sort of mood-altering drug, in a way.

Stuart Wellington

[31:48] Mm-hmm.

[31:49] I was like, okay, well...

[31:51] So it was like Charlie's Angels full throttle.

Dan McCoy

[31:53] Yeah, it's like, if I'm not on board with what's happening now, it's going to change totally in five minutes, so who cares?

[32:00] Yeah.

[32:01] Sure.

[32:01] And, uh...

Stuart Wellington

[32:02] It's kind of like when you go out to the club and you hit on a whole bunch of different women, and you're just like, well, I'm going to have a good time with one of them.

Dan McCoy

[32:09] It's exactly like that, Stuart.

[32:10] That's an experience I'm very familiar with having been engaged right out of college.

[32:15] Sure.

Stuart Wellington

[32:16] Thanks for the backstory, dude.

[32:19] Anyway.

Dan McCoy

[32:21] Exposition.

[32:22] Yeah, on a certain level, I enjoyed the strangeness of it.

[32:25] Which is weird, because I'm on record as being a really, like, not a fan at all of Japanese animation.

[32:34] Sure.

[32:34] But somehow, once you translate that Japanese animation style into live action, there's something I enjoy about it.

[32:41] Yeah, because you like Speed Racer, too, right?

[32:43] I did like Speed Racer.

Stuart Wellington

[32:45] Yeah.

[32:45] And that was Japanese, right?

[32:47] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[32:48] It was, Stuart.

[32:50] Good.

[32:50] Good job.

[32:51] I know.

[32:51] Good job identifying that.

Stuart Wellington

[32:53] It kind of reminded me of Tintin a little bit, and that's not Japanese.

[32:56] Sure.

[32:56] That's Belgian.

[32:57] Oh, okay.

[32:58] That makes more sense.

[32:59] Okay, guys.

[33:00] So...

S3

[33:01] It wasn't one of the...

[33:02] It was only half Belgian, wasn't it?

[33:03] Wasn't it Belgian or French?

Stuart Wellington

[33:04] Yeah.

S3

[33:05] I mean, it's probably French.

[33:06] One of them was Belgian.

[33:07] I think the artist was Belgian.

[33:08] Anyway, I digress.

[33:09] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[33:10] You would know better as...

[33:12] Well, I'm closer to France.

[33:14] Sure.

[33:14] Yeah.

[33:14] Sure.

S3

[33:16] Not right now.

[33:17] No, I mean, you're not.

[33:18] Not physically.

Dan McCoy

[33:20] But spiritually.

[33:21] Yeah, spiritually.

[33:22] Spiritually, yeah.

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[34:31] This is the point in the show when, to prove that we're not assholes who just hate unreservedly.

Stuart Wellington

[34:38] Yeah, well, I mean, you're definitely not, because you love this movie.

Dan McCoy

[34:42] Right, it's my favorite.

[34:43] Yeah, I guess.

[34:44] I gave it five stars.

Stuart Wellington

[34:45] Yeah, I'm going to buy it for you now.

[34:47] Sure.

[34:47] I'm going to get you the T-shirt and the card game.

S3

[34:51] I'm going to get him the outfit that the kid wore at the end.

[34:54] Yeah, it's Goku's battle outfit.

[34:56] I'm going to get the haircut.

Stuart Wellington

[34:58] Yeah, so you look like those kids that wear Naruto headbands around out in the street.

[35:02] Yeah, but for you guys.

[35:03] It's part of genuine.

[35:04] Yeah, absolutely.

[35:05] Well, you'd wear it every time we have it.

Dan McCoy

[35:06] For you guys, though, to not seem like assholes, we have to have some positivity.

Stuart Wellington

[35:12] Oh, sure.

Dan McCoy

[35:13] We have to make some recommendations.

Stuart Wellington

[35:14] Talk about movies we actually liked.

[35:16] Sure.

[35:16] Absolutely.

[35:17] Okay.

[35:17] So this is the point in the movie where we do that.

[35:19] Wait, the point in the podcast, because this isn't a movie.

[35:22] Right?

[35:23] I don't know what's going on.

S3

[35:26] I don't know anything anymore.

Stuart Wellington

[35:27] I like to think this is the movie of our lives, spirit.

[35:31] That we're living in.

[35:32] Sure.

[35:32] Yeah, that makes sense.

[35:33] Okay, I'll go first.

[35:35] Yesterday, I put on the old Netflix watch instantly, and I watched Dream a Little Dream.

[35:44] Whoa.

[35:45] Are you going to recommend that?

[35:46] I'm going to recommend Dream a Little Dream.

[35:48] That's a surprise.

[35:48] Yep.

[35:49] Jason Robards.

[35:51] Yeah, Jason Robards.

[35:51] Amazing.

[35:52] Piper Laurie?

[35:53] Come on.

[35:54] Forget about it.

[35:56] I'm not just going to recommend it because it's got a killer soundtrack.

[36:01] I'm not just going to recommend it because there's a lot of shots of girls and leotards hanging

[36:08] out at gym doing dance numbers.

[36:10] Although, I do support any movie that features a lot of 80s chicks wearing leotards.

[36:16] But I'm going to recommend it because Corey Feldman has the craziest Michael Jackson outfits the entire movie.

[36:24] Like, this entire movie, he is trying so hard to look like and act like Michael Jackson.

[36:29] It's fucking crazy.

[36:31] Complete with the end credits where he and Jason Robards do a dance-off because they're, you know,

[36:37] it's all about them switching places and shit or something.

[36:40] But there's this really awesome Corey Feldman pretending to be Michael Jackson dance bit that is totally worth watching.

[36:47] So, if you are bored, go on your little Netflix computer thing, click on Dream a Little Dream,

[36:52] hit play now or whatever, and watch the shit out of that.

[36:56] Wow, you are like a tech guru.

[36:58] I am.

[36:59] I am.

[37:00] Those distractions.

[37:01] So, yeah.

Dan McCoy

[37:02] Nigel, do you have a recommendation?

S3

[37:03] I certainly do, yeah.

[37:06] I'm pretty guilty these days of missing movies at the theater.

[37:10] And one of my biggest regrets this year was District 9, which I finally got around to watching this week.

[37:16] And I thoroughly enjoyed it.

[37:18] It was just non-stop.

[37:21] It was an interesting movie in that it didn't try and go for the kid audience.

[37:29] You know, it's an R-rated sci-fi movie.

[37:31] So, it was great to see people exploding.

[37:33] It was good to see gore.

[37:35] So, it's good.

[37:36] I don't know how much influence Petey Jackson actually had on it.

[37:39] He's got a producer credit.

[37:40] But, you know, I think I definitely felt a little bit of his early movies in there.

[37:44] There was plenty of exploding people.

[37:46] Exploding dudes, yeah.

[37:47] I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Dan McCoy

[37:48] Yeah.

[37:48] You know, I didn't love it as much as everyone, but I appreciated that it had that sort of like...

[37:53] It had that Peter Jackson spirit and also had kind of the...

[37:56] A little more of the 80s sci-fi spirit.

[38:00] Like, it felt kind of like Robocopy in certain parts.

Stuart Wellington

[38:03] I also liked that it was like...

[38:05] Partly because it's set in South Africa, it felt a little more...

[38:10] I'm not going to say exotic, but a little more like believable in some ways.

[38:14] Things like, I don't know, a little more sci-fi-y because it's in a world that I don't understand.

S3

[38:18] I just thought it was a little edgier than sci-fi families.

[38:22] Yeah, definitely.

[38:23] You know, it wasn't quite so cookie cutter.

Stuart Wellington

[38:25] Yeah.

[38:26] Like, I keep comparing it to Children of Men because it's a sci-fi movie, you know, for us adults.

[38:33] Close to my heart, I believe.

[38:35] Adults like you.

[38:36] Where adults rule and kids suck.

[38:39] Where kids drool.

[38:41] Yep, that's one example.

[38:44] That's words put together into a sentence, Dan.

[38:48] Rhyming words, even.

[38:49] Sure.

[38:50] So, we've recommended Dream a Little Dream.

[38:53] To recap.

[38:54] Yeah, to recap.

[38:55] Dream a Little Dream, which is...

[38:58] I believe it was Oscar nominated.

[39:00] I don't...

[39:01] District 9, which, you know, has gotten some pretty good critical success.

[39:05] And, obviously, financial success.

[39:07] Dan, what are you going to recommend?

Dan McCoy

[39:10] Well, you know what?

[39:11] I...

[39:11] This is going to sound like such a qualifier, but I haven't had a chance to watch a lot of movies.

[39:18] Sure.

[39:19] Because I did a lot of traveling over the holidays.

[39:22] You're not just going to look at your shelf and pick a DVD.

[39:24] No, I'm like, I...

[39:25] But...

[39:25] Like the OC or something.

[39:27] Yeah.

[39:27] I recommend the film, The OC, based on a television show of the same name.

[39:33] And, yes, I have season one of the OC.

[39:36] I'm not...

[39:37] DVD.

[39:37] I'm not making any judgments, really.

[39:39] I mean, Nigel is.

Stuart Wellington

[39:40] Sure.

Dan McCoy

[39:41] But, um...

[39:42] I'm not allowed to hear.

Stuart Wellington

[39:42] Yeah, he was making fun of you when you were in the bathroom.

[39:44] Oh, God.

Dan McCoy

[39:45] But I did watch a screener of Crazy Heart over the Christmas holiday.

Stuart Wellington

[39:53] Wait, isn't that that Indian movie with Val Kilmer?

[39:56] No.

[39:56] That's Thunderheart.

Dan McCoy

[39:57] Oh, okay.

[39:58] Crazy Heart is the film starring Jeff Bridges as a down-and-out country singer.

Stuart Wellington

[40:04] And that's...

[40:04] Wait, that's not the movie where Christian Slater has the monkey heart.

Dan McCoy

[40:09] That's Untamed Heart.

[40:10] Oh, okay.

[40:12] Crazy Heart is about a drunk...

[40:14] Can I join in with this?

[40:15] Sure.

[40:16] Think of another...

[40:17] Sure.

[40:17] Think of another...

[40:18] That's Angel Heart.

[40:22] Um...

[40:22] Anyway...

[40:23] I don't think he's an angel in that movie.

Stuart Wellington

[40:24] Is he?

[40:24] I think I've misreaded in the movie.

[40:25] I just wanted to get Angel Heart in some way.

[40:28] No, I think he goes to hell in that movie.

[40:30] Yeah, when he gets tricked by Louis Cipher.

[40:33] Oh.

[40:34] Yeah, I don't know if you can tell, but that's Louis...

[40:36] Lucifer.

[40:37] Oh, I see what you did.

[40:38] Yeah, Louis Cipher.

[40:38] Louis Cipher.

[40:39] It's pretty clever, right?

[40:39] Yeah, it's pretty clever.

Dan McCoy

[40:40] Robert De Niro with long fingernails.

[40:43] Spooky.

[40:44] Now, Crazy Heart stars Jeff Bridges as a down-and-out alcoholic country singer.

[40:50] And as a film, as a story, it's a little conventional.

[40:55] But in terms of the performance, Jeff Bridges as always is excellent.

[41:01] And, you know, it's a fun movie and it's got some good music.

[41:06] Jeff Bridges plays his own guitar and sings his own songs in it.

[41:10] Like an Iron Man?

[41:12] Yeah, exactly like an Iron Man.

[41:14] Oh, man, his song, I'm Obadiah Stain, was fantastic.

[41:20] But I enjoyed it.

[41:21] I thought it was good.

[41:22] So, I will recommend that.

[41:24] Okay.

[41:25] Crazy Heart.

[41:26] Crazy Heart.

Stuart Wellington

[41:26] Not Untamed Heart, Angel Heart, or Thunder Heart.

[41:29] No.

[41:29] Okay.

Dan McCoy

[41:30] Not Hearts in Atlantis.

Stuart Wellington

[41:33] I might recommend the first three.

[41:36] I wouldn't recommend Hearts in Atlantis.

[41:37] Okay.

[41:38] Wait, is that a movie or just a book?

Dan McCoy

[41:40] Hearts in Atlantis?

[41:41] No, that was totally a movie.

[41:42] Anthony Hopkins was in it.

[41:44] Oh, weird.

[41:45] Okay.

[41:46] Yeah.

[41:48] So, what else do we do now?

[41:49] Do we have viewer mail or anything?

[41:51] Not this week, guys.

[41:52] Oh, okay.

Stuart Wellington

[41:53] This is our first one that we did in 2010, huh?

Dan McCoy

[41:56] Yeah, the year we made contact.

[41:58] The year we made contact.

[41:59] Yeah, sure.

S3

[42:00] How long have we gone to?

[42:01] Oh, we have two more years until the world comes to the end, don't we?

[42:03] Yeah, absolutely.

Stuart Wellington

[42:04] You're going to find out about that.

[42:05] You're going to see that movie later.

Dan McCoy

[42:06] I'm going to see that movie on Thursday.

[42:07] So, we completed an entire decade of the Flophouse.

[42:11] The aughts.

[42:12] No, I don't...

[42:13] The aughts are done.

[42:14] We did not start in 2000.

[42:17] Oh, okay.

[42:18] This podcast has been around for a little over two years.

[42:23] Oh, wow.

[42:24] But, um...

[42:25] Time flies, you know.

[42:26] How many episodes is that?

[42:29] Fewer than you might think.

[42:30] Because we do it bi-monthly.

[42:33] 50-something?

[42:34] Yeah, it's...

[42:35] I think it's maybe 52 or something like that.

[42:37] Yeah, well...

[42:38] I'm sure that will...

[42:39] The people listening to this on their iPod will look at the episode number and write in

[42:45] and say, no, you were wrong.

[42:47] So, people actually listen to this.

[42:50] You don't just record these and then put them in your...

[42:52] Last episode, 500 people downloaded it in the month that we released it.

[42:56] You know why, though?

Stuart Wellington

[42:58] Because it had Wolverine in the title.

[42:59] Yeah, that's true.

[43:01] That's why...

[43:02] Nerds love Wolverine.

[43:03] Everyone loves Wolverine.

[43:05] Women do, too.

[43:05] Because Hugh Jackman's really handsome.

[43:07] Mm-hmm.

Dan McCoy

[43:08] And they like people with...

[43:10] Women love long adamantium claws.

Stuart Wellington

[43:15] That's what those are made out of.

[43:16] I thought they were made out of, like, steel or something.

[43:19] But adamantium, huh?

Dan McCoy

[43:20] Oh, God.

[43:21] You're just saying that because Elliot's not here to walk in and correct us like he did

[43:25] on The Daily Show.

Stuart Wellington

[43:26] I thought if I said something, he would appear magically.

Dan McCoy

[43:30] Okay, guys.

[43:31] Well, we should sign off.

[43:34] Okay.

[43:35] I'd like to thank Nigel for stepping in.

[43:37] It's been my pleasure.

S3

[43:39] Providing a little bit of culture, might I add.

Dan McCoy

[43:41] Lending his...

[43:43] I like to think I had a touch of class.

[43:45] Yeah.

[43:46] How does it feel to live in a country

[43:50] where just having an accent

[43:53] makes people assume that you have a certain amount of...

S3

[43:56] People think you're 10% smarter than they are of the accent.

[44:00] Unfortunately, it doesn't work in New York City.

[44:02] Really?

[44:03] Because there are so many...

[44:04] The place is lousy with Brits.

[44:05] Anywhere else in the country,

[44:07] you're tripping over Poon.

[44:08] But here, there's millions of us.

[44:12] I'm being lost in your eyes right now.

[44:15] It's the accent that does that.

Dan McCoy

[44:17] Yeah.

[44:18] Well, guys.

[44:20] For the Flophouse.

[44:21] Sure.

[44:22] I've been Dan McCoy.

[44:23] I've been Stuart Wellington.

[44:25] And I've been Nigel Wood.

[44:27] Good night.

[44:27] Thanks.

Stuart Wellington

[44:28] Yeah, tripping over Poon.

[44:30] I fucking hate that shit.

[44:36] I really fell for Piccolo at the end.

[44:38] Sure.

[44:39] What, you fell for him?

[44:40] I fell for him.

[44:41] I fell for him.

[44:42] Like on a date?

[44:43] Think you want to take him out on a date?

[44:45] Go study?

[44:46] He's the mean ones.

[44:47] Yeah, you look like the type that really goes for the bad boys.

[44:50] I go for the bad boys.

[44:51] I can't help it, you know?

S3

[44:53] You think you can straighten him out, right?

[44:54] That's the thing.

[44:55] I can't do it.

[44:55] I mean, he just...

[44:56] No one understands him like I do.

The Flop House: Episode #52 - Dragonball: Evolution

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