The Flop House: Episode #59 - Law Abiding Citizen

[0:00] After a month-long break, the Plothouse Gang is together again to try and abide law-abiding citizen.

[0:30] The Plothouse Gang

[1:30] The Plothouse Babies

[2:00] The Plothouse Babies

[10:00] headquarters underground next to the prison connected to a solitary confinement cell

[10:04] by a tunnel and every night he is sneaking out of his cell and rigging up traps to kill

[10:09] people and then getting back into his cell again.

[10:13] And he sets up a bomb at the mayor's office for some reason and Jamie Foxx, realizing

[10:21] that the law is impotent at this point, puts it under Gerard Butler's bed and allows

[10:26] Gerard Butler to blow himself up.

[10:28] Case closed.

[10:29] Case closed.

[10:30] The case of the murdering guy, over.

[10:34] Chalk another one up for the district attorney.

[10:37] Another slam dunk.

[10:38] So it's an incredibly stupid movie.

[10:40] And it would want you to believe that it's about, I guess, the limits of justice or the

[10:44] limits of the legal system.

[10:45] Our liberal legal system, letting criminals go free.

[10:48] There's a lot of like, what about his civil rights?

[10:50] I don't care about his civil rights anymore, you know, and things like that.

[10:54] And a judge who is incredibly eager to let people off of charges for any reason.

[11:00] Yeah, there's a point where like Gerard Butler says he's going to confess, hasn't signed

[11:05] a confession yet, and then makes an argument in court that because he hasn't done it and

[11:11] there's no other evidence, he should be going free, even though he's agreed to sign a confession

[11:15] in the future.

[11:16] And the judge is like, yeah, I'll allow it.

[11:18] And then he starts railing against the judge like, see, you did this last time.

[11:23] No, no, you're always letting criminals go free to kill and kill again.

[11:27] Yeah, you kind of set her up.

[11:28] And he plays a game of cat and mouse with the cops saying like, I'll tell you where

[11:32] this missing person is that I've kidnapped if you bring me a steak lunch, you know, and

[11:37] things like that.

[11:38] At 1230 and when it comes a little late, oops, a T-bone steak, the bone being the important

[11:45] part.

[11:46] Yes, because then he then uses that to kill his cellmate.

[11:49] And for pretty much no reason except to get him into solitary, I guess.

[11:53] Luckily, the prison only has one solitary confinement cell and he's already dug an

[11:57] amazing tunnel.

[11:58] There's got to be a non-murder way to get into solitary.

[12:01] I mean, it was either that or I don't know that much about prison, like try to punch

[12:05] a guard, maybe just like pee in a cup and throw it on a guard.

[12:08] Yeah.

[12:09] OK, I guess that'll get you there.

[12:10] I mean, at least for a day, I mean, especially once he starts his murdering rampage, he'll

[12:14] stay in solitary.

[12:15] He's doing it.

[12:16] Maybe there's some something we don't know about between him and his cellmate.

[12:22] Maybe he certainly didn't seem to be friendly.

[12:23] No, I mean, there's definitely a little bit of antagonism there, like just sexual tensions

[12:29] to her.

[12:30] I guess you're probably right.

[12:31] I mean, this interpreter does look pretty good.

[12:35] As I said, watching it, how can a man in such good shape look so doughy?

[12:41] He's got a 50s bodybuilder look where it's like he's muscular, but he's not slim.

[12:47] He's not svelte.

[12:49] But also when you like take his shirt off, like you can see the definition of every muscle.

[12:54] Chiseled.

[12:55] It's just that his face was...

[12:56] I mean, there's no Ryan Reynolds, but...

[12:57] And his back.

[12:58] Well, you see him nude from the back and he's kind of a lumpy guy.

[13:01] It seems like maybe...

[13:02] Those are muscles.

[13:03] But they don't look good.

[13:04] Someone attached some clamps to his extra face flesh and just like started like pulling

[13:08] them out.

[13:09] Like in Brazil.

[13:11] Or maybe it's like his face gave birth at some point and it just has a tightened back

[13:15] up.

[13:16] Wow.

[13:17] You really hate Gerard Butler.

[13:18] He's going to beat the crap out of you.

[13:19] Yeah.

[13:20] And this is the best performance we've seen from him so far in the film.

[13:24] I mean, I certainly...

[13:25] I would rather that he won over Jamie Foxx in this film.

[13:29] Yeah.

[13:30] Well, Jamie Foxx is the least likable hero, I think, in movie history in this movie.

[13:33] Yeah.

[13:34] He learns no...

[13:35] What's up with Jamie Foxx, guys?

[13:36] I mean, like sometimes, some days he's like a rapper.

[13:39] Some days he's an actor.

[13:40] Some days he's a comedian.

[13:41] Yeah, that is crazy.

[13:42] Uh-huh.

[13:43] What's the deal?

[13:44] How do you explain it?

[13:45] Can't cut it down.

[13:46] He's a modern day renaissance man.

[13:47] No, but...

[13:48] I mean, just think...

[13:49] Don't know what to think, you know?

[13:50] Listen, Damon Wayans just wrote a novel about old ladies.

[13:53] So anyone can...

[13:54] About old ladies?

[13:55] Yeah.

[13:56] Wait, what?

[13:57] It's in like the Tyler Perry mode of uplifting vaguely religious novels about black people.

[14:01] That kind of old lady.

[14:02] Yeah.

[14:03] Not like...

[14:04] A Madea style old lady.

[14:05] Yes.

[14:06] Not just...

[14:07] I don't know.

[14:08] Not like a Miss Marple mystery or something.

[14:11] I wish it was like a Murder, She Wrote type thing.

[14:14] Yeah, but one of the reasons why Jamie Foxx is so unlikable is he refuses to learn his

[14:19] lesson all throughout the film, and when he finally does learn his lesson, the lesson

[14:23] he learns is that the legal system doesn't work, rather than, maybe he shouldn't have

[14:28] done a plea bargain for this horrible, horrible murder.

[14:31] Yeah.

[14:32] Just apologize to him.

[14:33] Yeah.

[14:34] Yeah.

[14:35] Seems kind of weird at this point.

[14:36] Send him some flowers.

[14:37] Yeah.

[14:38] Send him some flowers, you know?

[14:39] Mm-hmm.

[14:40] Oh, man.

[14:41] And people keep dying.

[14:42] Yeah.

[14:43] Ten years of tunneling.

[14:44] Yeah, that was...

[14:45] I mean, there was that really cool moment where he, Bernard, or Gerard Butler, set himself

[14:51] on fire.

[14:52] Bernard Butler.

[14:53] Bernard Jutler.

[14:54] For Bernard Jutler, the bomb exploded, and there was like that moment of him kind of

[14:58] like looking at the camera, and he's like surrounded in flames, like a phoenix reborn

[15:03] from the ashes, except, yeah, he doesn't come back, I mean, he's dead.

[15:07] Except for law-abiding citizens, too.

[15:08] He's being accepted into the maw of hell.

[15:10] Law-abiding citizens.

[15:11] Oh, yeah, that makes sense.

[15:12] See?

[15:13] Symbolic.

[15:14] Yeah.

[15:15] But also, like, Jamie Foxx, as part of his job, I guess, just blew up a man in the prison,

[15:19] like, and then in the next scene, he's at his daughter's cello recital, and everything's

[15:23] okay.

[15:24] Now, I don't know a lot about the job of a...

[15:26] Of a DA.

[15:27] Of an assistant district attorney.

[15:28] This is after he's been sworn in as the DA.

[15:30] But even before that, like...

[15:31] The mayor says to him, you're doing a terrible job, the city is on high alert, everyone's

[15:35] worried, I'm gonna have to swear you in as DA.

[15:38] Viola Davis, by the way, the mayor.

[15:40] Academy Award nominee Viola Davis swearing in Academy Award nominee Jamie Foxx.

[15:44] Academy Award winner, didn't he win for Ray?

[15:47] Did he?

[15:48] Oh, maybe.

[15:49] I think he did.

[15:50] Then maybe he's an Academy Award winner.

[15:51] Now, what I don't quite understand is, I didn't realize that the job of the assistant district

[15:55] attorney was to, like, run around and go to crime scenes and, like, solve fucking crimes

[16:00] and shit.

[16:01] Is that really the case?

[16:02] Well, it's really more, I guess, administrating the office that organizes the arguments in

[16:07] court against these cases.

[16:09] Yeah, I mean, taking all the evidence that is brought to them by the police and then

[16:14] you, like, building a criminal case against the person, right?

[16:18] Yeah, he is at the scene of the crime very often.

[16:20] Yeah, and, like, any time something might be happening, he's jumping in a helicopter.

[16:23] I mean, I think that the district attorney's office has its own investigators, but I don't

[16:28] think they would be taking lead on the thing.

[16:32] Well, the district attorney isn't, like, a McGruff figure, though.

[16:36] Sure he is.

[16:37] He's a dog in a trench coat.

[16:39] Also, there's one guy who's, like, apparently holding the entire city in a grip of terror,

[16:46] but the newspapers never show his picture.

[16:49] We never actually see the city behaving erratically in any way.

[16:52] Yeah, we're just told about it.

[16:53] Gerard Butler is able to sneak into City Hall just wearing a mustache at the very end

[16:59] of the film.

[17:00] And a cap.

[17:01] And a cap.

[17:02] Well, there's a lot of subtleties to his disguise.

[17:04] It's, like, the way he holds his body, his voice.

[17:08] He's got a slightly more gravelly voice when he's talking to people.

[17:11] He's like Lon Chaney.

[17:12] Yeah, exactly.

[17:13] Anyway.

[17:14] I guess the reason anyone would see this movie is...

[17:19] For Gerard Butler's turd-a-face.

[17:20] Gerard Butler.

[17:21] I mean, he becomes a different character every time.

[17:23] But I guess for the elaborate kill scenes, which, uh...

[17:26] Yeah, it's like a Saw movie, but with a vigilante instead of...

[17:30] Well, I guess Saw is kind of a vigilante.

[17:32] Well, he's a vigilante for living your life to the fullest.

[17:36] Oh, okay.

[17:37] So it's like defending your life with Albert Brooks, but...

[17:40] Yeah, it's a lot like that, defending your life.

[17:43] Isn't that...

[17:44] Doesn't that take place in outer space or heaven or something?

[17:45] No, it takes place in heaven.

[17:46] Oh, okay.

[17:47] Same thing.

[17:48] I mean, I guess heaven is as far out of space as you can get.

[17:50] Yeah, I mean, it's pretty much outer space.

[17:52] But yeah, like, it's basically like a bunch of crazy Rube Goldberg things where people

[17:59] are set up and then they're gonna die, right?

[18:01] Well, and then it gets...

[18:02] Well, not even that crazy.

[18:03] I mean, like...

[18:04] I mean, they're crazy in that they're weird, but there's no Rube Goldberg.

[18:08] Well, the craziest one is the first one.

[18:10] He gets where he gives a...

[18:12] Or I guess after the lethal injection where the other killer, he has a...

[18:16] He's given him a gun, and then when he pulls the trigger, spikes come out of the handle,

[18:21] which have some sort of pufferfish poison on them, which then paralyzes him so that

[18:27] Gerard Butler can cut his body parts off.

[18:29] Yeah, and by the way, when pufferfish was mentioned that early in the movie, I was looking

[18:34] forward to a much crazier movie than this ended up being.

[18:37] Yeah.

[18:38] Well, there's something so unnecessary about it.

[18:39] It's a poison from the bladder of a pufferfish, and it's like, why not just say there's a...

[18:44] I've just paralyzed you with a toxin.

[18:46] Yeah, just tell me you gave him the Hong Kong cocktail and leave it at that.

[18:51] And eat your adrenaline up.

[18:52] But then later, it's mostly like exploding phones, exploding cars.

[18:56] Well, not exploding phones so much as like a phone that shoots the judge through her head.

[19:01] Well, and it apparently only goes off when she's in the presence of our main characters.

[19:06] It was timed to go off only in an ironic moment.

[19:09] So she says, well, that's the great thing about being a judge.

[19:11] You can do whatever you want.

[19:13] Opens up phone, a phone blows her head off.

[19:15] Famous last words.

[19:16] Well, this brings me...

[19:17] They are.

[19:18] They're quoted everywhere now.

[19:19] This brings me to what I kind of felt was the stupidest scene in the movie, which is...

[19:23] The cello?

[19:24] No, it was after Gerard Butler said, you know, show me you've learned your lesson.

[19:29] You can stop all this or whatever.

[19:30] Like, let me go or, you know, tomorrow at 6 a.m., everyone dies.

[19:37] And so...

[19:38] Or let me go by 6 a.m.

[19:39] By 6 a.m. or everyone dies.

[19:41] And so, like, the law people are all, like, pulling an all-nighter for some reason.

[19:45] And they're all together.

[19:46] I think law people is the second.

[19:47] They're all together in the law people offices.

[19:51] Sure.

[19:52] Law people room.

[19:53] Yeah.

[19:54] Jamie Foxx, you know, everyone is looking up at the clock.

[19:57] And the minute hand goes to 6.

[20:00] and looks around like, well, we didn't die.

[20:02] And guess we're going to live forever.

[20:05] Guess the danger has passed.

[20:07] And then they all leave.

[20:08] And of course, get in their cars, which blow up.

[20:10] One by one.

[20:11] Yeah.

[20:11] And one of the women, one of the people

[20:14] Jamie Foxx works with, Leslie Bibb,

[20:17] named after, of course, the article of clothing,

[20:21] the Leslie.

[20:23] She is just, we know she's going to die because we haven't seen

[20:27] her for like an hour in the movie.

[20:29] Or we have, but just in brief moments.

[20:31] And then she starts talking about her boyfriend

[20:33] with Jamie Foxx.

[20:34] And it's like, OK, well, we've learned

[20:36] something personal about you, so you're going to go.

[20:38] But then she gets in her car.

[20:39] All these other cars start exploding.

[20:41] And she looks at Jamie Foxx like, what do I do?

[20:44] I don't understand.

[20:45] Where can I, huh?

[20:46] And doesn't seem to figure out that she has control

[20:48] over the doors of her car.

[20:50] Yeah.

[20:51] And it's really a shame, because in the 10 years that

[20:54] have elapsed since the first case,

[20:57] she really did not age very much.

[20:59] No.

[21:00] Nobody did.

[21:00] She had great jeans.

[21:02] You could say that.

[21:03] Wait, like in her body, or like the things she was wearing?

[21:06] Both.

[21:06] Yeah.

[21:07] Because I didn't see the second.

[21:09] Maybe I missed that.

[21:10] I'm just imagining.

[21:11] You've got to assume.

[21:11] The casual scene.

[21:12] Yeah, the casual wear.

[21:14] She's out drinking with her fellow law people.

[21:17] At the law bar.

[21:18] Yeah, where all the law students are at.

[21:21] They're like hillbilly sexy jeans

[21:22] with panels cut out of the butt.

[21:24] OK, that sounds sexy.

[21:27] Wow, you have constructed a more elaborate fantasy

[21:30] around this than.

[21:31] Well, listen, she's a lawyer, right?

[21:33] Yeah, what, like a half shirt?

[21:35] So she cuts loops on the weekends.

[21:37] Yeah, exactly.

[21:40] Lawyers love wearing Davey Dukes around.

[21:42] Well, then I guess she died as she lived, you know?

[21:45] In a car.

[21:46] Yeah, in a car.

[21:46] Exploding.

[21:49] I mean, from the portrait you've painted.

[21:51] I don't think I mentioned that at all.

[21:54] It seemed like the 10-year difference was so unnecessary.

[21:58] It could have been one year later or three years later.

[22:02] I mean, he dug a lot of tunnel, right?

[22:04] And that's not a euphemism.

[22:07] I normally would use that as a euphemism.

[22:09] What would it be a euphemism for?

[22:10] We'll cover that later.

[22:12] Yeah, no, that's a 10-year project.

[22:15] I mean, planning all this masterminding out and then

[22:19] having a warehouse that you dig a tunnel

[22:22] through the prison for.

[22:23] You've got to do that really quietly, I imagine.

[22:27] But the thing is, also, Gerard Butler's character

[22:30] is like, it's established, what, midway through the movie

[22:34] that he was like a crazy CIA assassin operative.

[22:39] I'm surprised he didn't just get like, well, yeah.

[22:45] Well, let me get back to my point, Daniel.

[22:49] I'm surprised that a character that already has

[22:52] that moral flexibility, his first outlet is like,

[22:57] okay, let's see what the justice system is going to do.

[22:59] Like, that seems crazy.

[23:01] I'm surprised his first thing was to kill the guy.

[23:03] That was his fall from grace.

[23:04] Like, he'd given his life to the U.S. government

[23:08] and then he sees how he gets repaid.

[23:10] But then he doesn't take his problem to the U.S. government.

[23:12] He takes it to the Philadelphia justice system.

[23:16] Also, when-

[23:17] And also, why doesn't the government step in

[23:18] and help him out with this?

[23:19] Also, when he's later on trial,

[23:22] how come he has the exact same judge

[23:24] and the exact same prosecutor that presided the trial

[23:27] over the murderers of his family?

[23:29] That seems crazy.

[23:30] You have to assume this movie takes place in a world

[23:32] where Philadelphia has been decimated

[23:34] by some sort of virus or zombie plague.

[23:37] There's only about 45 people left in the city.

[23:38] That's what happened those 10 years we didn't see.

[23:39] So it's kind of like in the second half

[23:42] of the Akira graphic novels.

[23:43] Exactly, yes.

[23:44] Where they're living in the ruins of Neo-Tokyo.

[23:46] Yes.

[23:46] Or between Mad Max and Mad Max 2, Road Warrior.

[23:50] Okay.

[23:51] Where there's been a nuclear war and society has crumbled.

[23:54] Wait, there's been a nuclear war

[23:56] between Mad Max and Mad Max 2?

[23:58] Yeah.

[23:59] There wasn't one before Mad Max?

[24:00] In the first Mad Max, it's like-

[24:01] It was just like a-

[24:02] In the first Mad Max-

[24:03] The first one was-

[24:04] Things were just shitty.

[24:04] Yeah, it was just a white-line nightmare.

[24:06] Exactly.

[24:06] Wow.

[24:07] It was just a white-line nightmare, yeah.

[24:10] But yeah, in the first movie, things are bad,

[24:13] but you still have lawyers, the government,

[24:15] regular television broadcasts.

[24:16] What happened between Road Warrior

[24:18] and Beyond Thunderdome?

[24:19] We're not just talking about the sound dubbing.

[24:20] No!

[24:21] Between Road Warrior and Beyond Thunderdome,

[24:24] George Miller got too much money.

[24:26] People started building Thunderdomes all over.

[24:28] And Barter Towns.

[24:29] So many Thunderdomes.

[24:31] Well, but you could see,

[24:31] well, you make that Barter Town

[24:33] is the beginning of a new organized society.

[24:36] It's like an Old West type place.

[24:38] It's a cycle goal.

[24:38] It's the same process you see in like

[24:39] McCabe and Mrs. Miller.

[24:40] Right.

[24:41] Or season two of Deadwood.

[24:43] Okay.

[24:44] I think we've learned something.

[24:46] I like Thunderdome.

[24:47] Did you?

[24:48] Yeah, I still kind of do.

[24:49] Yeah.

[24:50] I just don't quite know why.

[24:51] There's a lot of dumb things.

[24:52] It's the most Tina Turner-y about all of them.

[24:54] Well, because it's the only one she's in.

[24:55] Yeah.

[24:57] Yeah, that's fine.

[24:58] I'm cool with that.

[24:58] And there's, yeah.

[25:00] I actually like the first one the best,

[25:02] which is kind of unpopular.

[25:03] I like the second one.

[25:04] It's kind of a weird call.

[25:05] Yeah.

[25:06] I just like how low budget it is.

[25:06] I love how she's pushed to have

[25:07] the big pieces of metal on them, but.

[25:10] Well.

[25:11] Well, we're not talking about the movie

[25:13] we watched anymore.

[25:14] I'm a law-abiding citizen.

[25:16] Yeah, which, I mean, it's kind of a strange title,

[25:18] don't you think?

[25:19] I mean, he's.

[25:20] He's anything but.

[25:21] I agree.

[25:22] That's the other thing is,

[25:23] the whole thing is he keeps saying,

[25:24] I'm a law-abiding citizen,

[25:25] I'm a regular Joe, and the system's done me wrong.

[25:28] But he's not.

[25:29] He already, like you were saying,

[25:31] he already lives in this morally gray world

[25:33] of CIA assassinary.

[25:35] And, I mean, this is a movie, I guess, like,

[25:38] who is, this movie's targeted toward people who.

[25:41] Yeah, people.

[25:42] Who, well, yeah, human beings.

[25:44] People who watch movies.

[25:45] I assume.

[25:46] Presumably.

[25:46] Not one of those movies for dogs.

[25:47] Death penalty advocates is targeted to.

[25:50] People who hate the Constitution and civil rights.

[25:52] Yeah, and a little bit to people

[25:55] that are just way into vigilantes and revenge movies.

[25:59] Like people who just really love Rorschach

[26:01] from The Watchmen, and.

[26:05] The Watchmen, I'm not really familiar

[26:07] with what you're talking about.

[26:10] So, but what I think is strange

[26:13] is that they also, like, they had to throw in your face

[26:15] that annoying title, like, law-abiding citizen,

[26:18] and you're like, okay, yeah, sure he is,

[26:21] and he's blowing a bunch of people up.

[26:22] Like, at no point, I don't know, it's just irritating.

[26:25] It's just a level of bad attitude.

[26:28] It is a very, it's irritating and stupid.

[26:30] Well, it's.

[26:31] Stewart's review of the movie.

[26:31] I don't know, it's just irritating.

[26:33] It's a movie that at no point stopped

[26:35] to think through what the hell it was about

[26:37] or saying or what the audience was supposed to think

[26:40] other than like, whoa, the head blew up.

[26:44] Except for it clearly thought

[26:44] it was saying something profound.

[26:46] Yeah, it just didn't know what it was.

[26:47] The early bits where they're trying to, like,

[26:49] show this guy's, like, how the legal system

[26:53] just can't handle, like, a.

[26:55] A murder case.

[26:56] Yeah, a murder case, like a fucking open and shut case.

[26:59] They're trying, they try and make it seem like,

[27:01] oh, the legal system's so fucked up,

[27:03] and they just throw out all these random

[27:04] legal mumbo jumbo, like, phrases,

[27:07] and I guess they're just assuming that their audience

[27:10] is just gonna nod their head and be like,

[27:11] wow, that's terrible, man.

[27:13] He's right, he's right.

[27:14] Yeah, this is based on a documentary.

[27:17] But, like, the audience just saw, like,

[27:19] a woman get, like, killed and then raped,

[27:22] and so they're immediately gonna be, like,

[27:25] siding with Gerard Butler on this one.

[27:27] I don't know, it's so stupid.

[27:28] But they thought, well, also later he says, like,

[27:31] all right, I'm gonna confess to these crimes,

[27:34] and then, you know, and then they go to court,

[27:36] and it's like we were already talking about.

[27:40] He makes the case then that they can't hold him

[27:43] because of the confession.

[27:44] It's like, why didn't they get the confession

[27:46] as soon as, before the arraignment?

[27:49] You know, just like, they set the legal system up

[27:51] to be so incompetent that it's unbelievable.

[27:53] And the preceding scene where this veteran prosecutor,

[27:56] I mean, over 10 years of experience,

[27:59] interviews this guy, and Gerard Butler keeps saying things

[28:02] like, I wanted to murder them, or I thought about it,

[28:06] and he's like, oh, great, I got a confession.

[28:08] And, like, even I, I have no fucking idea what I'm doing.

[28:10] And I'm like, yeah, he didn't say anything.

[28:12] He never said, yes, I killed him, yeah.

[28:16] It's stupid, it makes me mad.

[28:17] Even just, like, he murders a man in his cell,

[28:19] and then he never seems to be brought up

[28:22] on charges for that.

[28:23] They just throw him in solitary and then leave him.

[28:25] Like, that's another crime he has to answer for, you know?

[28:29] It's not like once you're in jail, they're like,

[28:31] well, whatever he does here, he's already being punished.

[28:33] Can't convict him of murder twice.

[28:35] Yes, you can.

[28:36] Double jeopardy.

[28:38] You already committed a crime.

[28:39] We can't convict him of another one.

[28:40] I guess you're free to go.

[28:42] He was too smart for us.

[28:43] He parked near that hydrant before killing those people,

[28:47] so now we can't get him for the later charge.

[28:49] They find him, they find the body at property he owns.

[28:52] They have video of him dismembering this guy alive,

[28:55] and they're like, we don't have a strong enough case.

[28:58] We gotta do what he says.

[29:00] No, I mean, if anything.

[29:02] Well, he had his dismemberment mask on.

[29:04] You gotta remember that.

[29:06] That's just ridiculous.

[29:08] I think this movie makes me push all the harder

[29:10] for a no escape style prison island,

[29:15] where you ship guys off so they can't build tunnels

[29:18] and sneak back and forth.

[29:19] Or some sort of death race.

[29:21] And you know what?

[29:22] Also, I think this movie was great because.

[29:24] Some sort of moon prison.

[29:25] You know, we were just talking about

[29:26] how awesome this movie was.

[29:28] And I was really happy.

[29:29] Was that what we were doing?

[29:30] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[29:31] I blacked out for an hour.

[29:32] Well, your testimony is not valid anymore.

[29:36] Listen to the tape, Heather.

[29:38] Good one, Dan.

[29:38] So we.

[29:39] Open shut case.

[29:40] But one of the things I do wanna bring up

[29:41] is that this movie brings back a triumphant return

[29:44] to the evidence dungeon.

[29:46] Ah, yes.

[29:47] Because they do find a dungeon filled

[29:48] with like newspaper clippings and semtex

[29:51] and everything's labeled.

[29:52] All of his disguises are there.

[29:54] Shit loads of blueprints.

[29:55] And that dude has a lot of disguises.

[29:57] In a room that I think there's like,

[30:00] Yeah, about a foot of water at the bottom, if I recall.

[30:02] He stores all his fucking disguises down there, like the humidity would ruin those.

[30:07] Well, I just love that the entrance is underneath his cherry refurbished 50s Cadillac that he keeps in a warehouse.

[30:15] Like, it doesn't get any more, like, superhero-y, super villain-y than that.

[30:21] I can accept the evidence dungeon here, though, a little bit more,

[30:23] because it's, like, more his lair that he has to... his operations have to go from.

[30:28] Although it is always hilarious to me when a criminal feels like they need to put up their news clippings on the wall, like...

[30:35] In case they forget why they're doing it.

[30:36] Yeah.

[30:37] It bothers me more, the evidence dungeon, when it's in, like, a serial killer film, when it's, like,

[30:42] okay, I know that serial killers, you know, often take trophies, but they're usually, like...

[30:47] Is that true, or did just movies tell you that?

[30:49] No, that's true.

[30:50] But, like, it's usually, like, in the way of, like, a personal item or, like, a body part...

[30:53] It's like a compulsion.

[30:54] ...or something.

[30:55] Oh, okay.

[30:56] They don't then, like, make collages of murder and post it on the wall, you know,

[31:01] or, you know, cut out the phrase, serial killer murders again, and put it up...

[31:08] They don't?

[31:09] Well, all right, I've...

[31:11] Do you think they ever go on their Macbook or whatever?

[31:13] ...not personally been in any serial killer's evidence dungeons?

[31:15] They go on their Macbook and type serial killer murders again, and then print it out in different fonts?

[31:18] They've got a Google Alert set up for serial killer, and they're always hoping it's them that's being talked about.

[31:23] Yeah.

[31:24] Well, do you think with the death of print, do you think serial killers...

[31:27] You're going to see a lot more email printouts taped up to walls.

[31:30] Yeah, a lot of, like, Twitter posts.

[31:32] Yeah.

[31:33] Sure, a lot of bloggers.

[31:34] Well, they're...

[31:35] OMG, serial killer strikes again, you know.

[31:38] They're going to get, the serial killers are going to get those electronic picture frames,

[31:42] and it's just going to be, like, a photo slideshow of all their clippings.

[31:49] Oh, like, for on their desktop?

[31:50] Mm-hmm.

[31:51] Okay.

[31:52] And then, in the future, it'll be, like, holograms.

[31:55] Mm-hmm.

[31:56] Yeah.

[31:56] Like, maybe hologram videos of them doing it that they made.

[31:59] That just play on the wall over and over again.

[32:01] That sounds awesome.

[32:01] In front of their video screen.

[32:02] It's me killing this person.

[32:03] Makes it look like they live next to a jungle.

[32:06] Wow.

[32:06] Out the window.

[32:07] Oh, that's pretty cool.

[32:08] And, wait, also, like...

[32:09] They're like Back to the Future Part II?

[32:12] You get dominoes, and it's like a tiny little pizza, and then you put it in a thing, and it becomes a giant pizza.

[32:16] And everyone faxes your fire to each other.

[32:18] Yeah.

[32:19] And wears their solar shades from Pizza Hut.

[32:21] Everyone faxes your fire.

[32:23] This is a fad that swept the nation in the future.

[32:26] And you got flying cars in Jaws 15.

[32:28] Yeah.

[32:29] By the way, they've got some catching up to do.

[32:32] So, well, this is one of those things where it's like...

[32:33] To make it into Jaws 15.

[32:34] It takes place in 2015, right?

[32:36] Back to the Future II?

[32:37] They're like, ah, here's an interesting thing.

[32:39] A dust jacket on the book.

[32:41] Well, I don't know if those are really gonna go out of style in the next five years.

[32:44] Well, here's another thing about Back to the Future Part II.

[32:49] This is the podcast for Law Abiding Citizens, by the way.

[32:52] If Biff created a separate timeline, how did he fly back to the original timeline in the time machine,

[32:59] which allowed Doc and Marty to go back?

[33:02] That doesn't make any sense.

[33:03] Wait, what do you mean?

[33:04] What?

[33:05] When Biff went back to give himself the...

[33:08] This is the character Biff from the movie Back to the Future II.

[33:11] Yeah, Biff Henderson, late show with David Letterman, stage manager.

[33:14] He created a divergent timeline, the horrible timeline.

[33:20] Biff World.

[33:21] But then...

[33:22] It's called Biff World.

[33:23] But the only way that Marty and Doc get back to that timeline...

[33:26] Is that what it's referred to in various Back to the Future fans?

[33:29] Among BTTF fans.

[33:31] Let me finish it.

[33:32] That's what it's referred to as.

[33:33] The only way that Marty and Biff are able to go back in time is because Old Biff then returns to the original timeline.

[33:41] And if he'd created a divergent timeline, he would have just gone ahead into the future of that divergent timeline.

[33:47] But that's where they were.

[33:49] No.

[33:50] The original timeline, Marty and Doc were at the future version of Marty's house.

[34:00] In Biff World.

[34:02] No, not in Biff World.

[34:04] Biff World was later.

[34:05] And they go to the future to save Marty's kids.

[34:09] And that's when Biff takes the almanac and he goes back.

[34:12] And then he creates a divergent timeline.

[34:14] But he somehow flies back to the future in the original timeline.

[34:18] I don't remember that part of the movie.

[34:20] Oh, for God's sake.

[34:21] This has been such a waste of time.

[34:22] When do Jules and Vern come in?

[34:24] Man.

[34:25] Again, people across the nation turning off their podcasts.

[34:29] Dinosaurs in the Back to the Future cartoon series in one episode.

[34:32] They created a world where dinosaurs continued evolving and had like a people-type civilization.

[34:38] Oh, that sounds awesome.

[34:39] Do they wear suits and stuff and tennis shoes with their claws poking out of them?

[34:43] And drive cars.

[34:44] That's awesome.

[34:45] They may not have worn shoes.

[34:46] Oh, that's too bad.

[34:47] I think we can all agree, though, that the best part of Back to the Future 3 was ZZ Top playing the barn dance.

[34:57] I mean, it's up there.

[34:58] I don't know if that's the best part.

[35:00] Yeah, it is.

[35:01] This is a movie that takes place in the Old West.

[35:03] I mean, it's awesome.

[35:05] Like Silverado.

[35:06] It doesn't have the Frisbee.

[35:07] Like Silverado.

[35:08] It's like their old-timey version of Doubleback that they're playing.

[35:12] Yeah, I mean, it's up there with, I guess, the best moments from Young Guns, too.

[35:15] Yeah.

[35:16] Sure.

[35:17] Oh, man.

[35:18] Or that James Boys movie that came out about ten years ago.

[35:21] Yeah.

[35:22] Do you remember that one about the Jesse James gang?

[35:25] Or like the Newton Boys.

[35:26] No.

[35:27] Yeah.

[35:28] They're safe crackers.

[35:29] It's a lot like Assassination of Jesse James.

[35:32] Stop talking about stuff.

[35:33] Yeah, yeah.

[35:34] The same kind of thing.

[35:35] Or like Appaloosa.

[35:36] Yeah.

[35:37] Westerns.

[35:38] Yeah.

[35:39] Anyway.

[35:40] Saracen Falls.

[35:41] Let's move on to judgments because we've clearly—

[35:42] Our final judgments?

[35:43] Our final judgments on Law Abiding Citizens.

[35:45] Final judgments.

[35:46] The three categories are, is this a good bad movie, a bad bad movie, or a movie you actually

[35:51] kind of liked in some way?

[35:52] Elliot, go.

[35:53] Me first?

[35:54] Well, I have to tell you that I did enjoy the energy behind some of the kills, such

[36:00] as we didn't even mention the robot with a gun and a missile that shoots up a car in

[36:05] a cemetery right after a funeral.

[36:08] But I am going to have for the lack of logic and goodness in the movie, I'm going to have

[36:14] to give it a bad bad rating.

[36:16] Yeah, you know what?

[36:17] I'm going to say—

[36:18] And how incredibly unlikable the hero of the movie is.

[36:20] You do want Gerard Butler to win because at least he looks like he's like having a good

[36:24] time, you know?

[36:25] He's kind of cutting it up.

[36:27] What did you say?

[36:29] No, I'm going to say that part of me wants to say something good about this movie, like

[36:37] slightly good bad because it's just so stupid.

[36:39] Like, the thing about the movie is you can't really—

[36:41] I guess you could have a good time watching some of it.

[36:44] Yeah, I mean, you can't really laugh at it.

[36:46] It's not like a bad movie that you laugh at because it's incompetent so much as a bad

[36:51] movie that you kind of enjoy just because nothing makes sense.

[36:55] Like, it is so dumb.

[36:57] There's not a brain in its head.

[36:59] However, ultimately, it's not enough.

[37:02] Like, I think it's just a bad bad movie.

[37:05] Yeah, I mean, I think my biggest problem is I'm going to give it a bad bad.

[37:11] I think the reason I liked it so little is it had that almost like conspiratorial attitude

[37:17] of like the filmmakers nudging you, the viewer, like, you know what I mean?

[37:21] This justice system is fucked up.

[37:23] And you're like, well, you're just making crazy shit up.

[37:26] Yeah, don't assume that we agree with you, movie.

[37:28] Yeah, it's like the old racist guy at the bar who's like, you know what I mean?

[37:32] You're like, no.

[37:35] He's like, come on.

[37:36] You're like, what are you talking about?

[37:37] I thought I was going to say like Dave Sim in Cerebus having his female characters say

[37:42] crazy things against men and then using that as evidence that women hate men in the real world.

[37:47] That's true, but that's a completely crazy person.

[37:50] Yeah.

[37:51] Oh, well, then the racist at the bar, we can go with that analogy.

[37:53] And mine is less of like a vague reference.

[37:56] Well, it's not vague.

[37:57] Mine was way more specific than yours.

[37:59] Extremely specific reference.

[38:01] The problem is perhaps that it's so specific that a very small portion of our audience will understand.

[38:06] Let me explain again.

[38:07] It's like the scene in If On A Winter's Night A Traveler by Italo Calvino.

[38:11] Okay, sure.

[38:13] Keep going.

[38:14] Okay, if I can reference Sinclair Lewis's Dodsworth for a second.

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[39:26] We have some letters, but I don't have them for us to read

[39:30] because I didn't hook up my printer today and print them out, so that's on me.

[39:38] Well, do you remember what they said?

[39:40] I imagine one of them went, Dear Flophouse, I love your show.

[39:43] Stuart is really funny when he talks about his penis.

[39:45] Elliot sure knows a lot.

[39:46] Well, that's all I know about the Flophouse.

[39:48] Goodbye, signs some great listener.

[39:50] Joe Everyman, last name of hell.

[39:54] Oh, shit, don't answer that.

[39:57] No, I don't remember the specifics, although there was one.

[40:00] That was very happy that I put up a message on our website saying that we were still something that existed

[40:06] So, okay. Yeah, we did take that. We should apologize for the long break. We took although you know what?

[40:11] Yeah, we're no pay. So why should we have a lot of stuff like you've been busy and you've been busy, too

[40:17] And well, I you know, I've been unemployed for a little while now and are you gonna talk about this?

[40:23] Yeah, like no, it's just it's rough. Yeah, it's rough out there

[40:28] I imagine it is like shopping for for guns to kill yourself shopping. Yeah bullets for the guns

[40:35] Yeah going to tea party bro. Well, I was gonna try and go the crossbow

[40:40] Well

[40:42] Yeah, it seems cool it seems like that would be really hard to like just like hold up to your

[40:50] Need to wind with it. Yeah that normal that like the

[40:54] Like that they would usually protect themselves with a large pavise

[41:00] This

[41:01] Killing yourself plan seems less well put together than well, even though the one where you catapulted yourself

[41:09] Just into the distance. Sure. Yeah, that was the problem. That was the lack of foresight

[41:13] I didn't actually have a clear vision. I didn't have like a vision of success. Yeah

[41:17] You shouldn't have done it and like in front of the ocean to know. Yeah, that's true. It's soft landing

[41:23] Time you tried to so it kill yourself with kindness

[41:26] That didn't work. Yeah, you felt really good though. I mean for a little while. Oh

[41:31] Wait from all the ice cream you're you're eating

[41:34] He thought he'd compound it with a death by chocolate. But yeah

[41:38] And my and my grilled cheese hamburgers I was eating. Yeah

[41:43] Between two pieces of grilled cheese

[41:46] But it's between grilled cheese sandwiches or just pieces of cheese, no, that's just a cheeseburger no, no

[41:53] No, I'm saying you take two grilled cheese sandwiches

[42:00] You make a really thin like with a panini press so they're like more I mean you could I like a big Texas toast

[42:07] You mean that's cuz you know, I'm from the country

[42:10] You also make the cheese sandwiches on French bread on French toast. Yeah, well, it's really thick

[42:15] That's what I make. That's what I'm doing like a nice bro. You make maybe grilled cheese sandwiches out of French bread pizza

[42:26] The top is red bear and then you

[42:31] Wait on what the the the cheese sandwich that's made of cheese

[42:40] Yeah, well, you know like I like to call it a steak burger but that just classes it up

[42:45] Yeah, it's like a big Friday on top of the whole thing

[42:51] Rings the national sandwich of Uruguay and some guanciale

[42:56] unsmoked bacon

[42:58] comes from the hogs jowl

[43:00] Wow, very specific. Yeah, it's delicious

[43:03] Well, so that my guys

[43:10] Sandwich I think the recipe should go up on the website

[43:15] Let's make it a

[43:17] transcribe that

[43:21] Yeah, what movie would you name that sandwich after in our flophouse cookbook would it be the law-abiding sandwich? Yes

[43:28] The thing about that sandwich is that uh

[43:30] It you know kind of turns everything on its ear everything that like you've been come to believe

[43:35] Come to believe about this world while you kind of pokes holes and all the hypocrisy of it all

[43:40] It just takes 10 years though everything everything you used to thought a sandwich was used to thought

[43:47] The sandwich was it's cool

[43:50] It's been a while since you've done a lot of improv, right?

[43:53] Okay

[43:55] Letters were there there were we answered the first one?

[44:01] I will have those for us the next time

[44:06] Anything else in this podcast we what we do now to close things out and to not seem like we're jerks is

[44:14] we talk

[44:16] Everyone's looking around because I have my phone is ringing off in the distance and Halloween Halloween theme is mine

[44:22] So I thought Michael Myers was coming to kill. I was very distressed trying to find the DVD player

[44:27] So I could turn off that shitty movie. Okay

[44:30] Wow, okay

[44:32] Now we talked about movies that we saw recently

[44:35] or not so recently if we haven't seen anything recently that we liked and would recommend that you watch perhaps in lieu of

[44:42] law-abiding citizen

[44:44] Well, I'm gonna go first guys

[44:47] Two nights ago. I went to see the midnight showing of Iron Man 2 what?

[44:52] Midnight showing I know he just couldn't wait. Yeah, I couldn't wait. I had to see what was gonna happen and

[44:58] Then I had to leave after about 30 minutes because my girlfriend got sick, but the first 30 minutes were really good

[45:03] I really enjoyed it. So I recommend the first 30 minutes of Iron Man 2 and you Raymond

[45:09] Leaving because your girlfriend gets sick. Absolutely

[45:13] Because well, well, she would appreciate it. Yeah, she'd appreciate you're a really nice guy if you don't go

[45:20] I

[45:23] Kind of wanted to see how whiplash was gonna fight Iron Man. Yeah. Well, that was the thing

[45:27] And it like the first 30 minutes. They asked a lot of questions and I'm looking forward to see the answers, you know

[45:35] You're a real sweetheart spirit that we learned America's sweetheart. Mm-hmm. I want to recommend a movie

[45:40] I watched called road games. Did you see all of it? I saw all of it

[45:45] I first heard about it because it was no your wife got sick about 30 minutes. Yes. I was like shut up

[45:54] And just road games but

[45:57] The road games are in road games. Okay, I I watched on DVD

[46:01] It's I saw I heard about this movie first because it was in that movie not quite Hollywood about

[46:07] Exploitation. Yes

[46:09] the recent documentary

[46:11] yeah about

[46:12] Australian exploitation, but uh, it

[46:15] It stars Stacy Keach who I always have enjoyed star of the ninth configuration

[46:21] Yeah, and it has a very young Jamie Lee Curtis in it. Ah star of blue steel. Uh-huh, and

[46:28] It's very true lies

[46:31] It's she in that

[46:33] Yeah, it's a small part. Yeah, it's very

[46:38] Overtly a like a Hitchcock

[46:40] Not not a pastiche, but it's very influenced by Hitchcock the the movie is like about a long-haul truck driver

[46:48] who has a

[46:50] Refrigerated truck full of meat and there's a killer out there

[46:53] Who's been killing hitchhikers and over the course of driving the truck?

[46:58] It's sort of a rear window situation where he can like

[47:01] See into people's cars and there are people that he keeps passing and it's like midnight meat truck. Mm-hmm

[47:07] and he becomes convinced that one of the people that he sees is the killer and

[47:14] It's just a lot of fun

[47:15] I mean, I think that the late 70s early 80s were kind of like the last gasp of like really good fun

[47:21] Just solid thrillers like before everything got stupid and and twist oriented. This is a

[47:29] Very carefully constructed suspense and the guy directed this

[47:33] You know big Hitchcock fan

[47:34] Like I said went on to direct psycho 2 which is a a film that did not need to happen

[47:39] But if it had to happen you

[47:41] Psycho 2 was a much better like sequel than you would sort of expect. So it's really better than psycho 3

[47:47] Yeah, but I mean, how's the twist at the end of road?

[47:51] No twist

[47:53] But there's a dingo and in the in the movie the guy has a dingo

[47:58] Drive

[48:00] Really much of a twist. No, I'm just saying it's fun. There's a bingo in it. Okay

[48:09] This is a movie I may have recommended on the show before but maybe I have I don't think I have

[48:13] I haven't had a lot of time to see a lot of movies and the one I'm watching

[48:16] I've seen three movies in a row now that I didn't particularly care for

[48:20] And I can tell you what they are

[48:23] Sure, why not bag on some other movies while we're at it born on the 4th of July

[48:27] It was Matt not very good the cheap detective, which I thought was Matt. Mm-hmm

[48:31] that's that's the that was the follow-up to murder by death and right now I'm nearing the end of Munchausen the

[48:39] 1943 I think it is

[48:40] Nazi film about Baron Munchausen where there's nothing really Nazi in it

[48:45] They wanted to make like a Technicolor big-budget fantasy film to compete with the other ones being made around that time like Wizard of Oz and I

[48:52] guess

[48:53] Thief of Baghdad and things like that. Nazi kids need entertainment, too. And it is so

[48:59] Like the dirt they are so worried about the details of the time period making sure everyone knows

[49:04] What's going on all the time and all the characters are jerks. So it's not that great

[49:08] but

[49:09] there is there is

[49:10] topless women in it, which is strange, huh, right for a fantasy film from the 1940s, but uh

[49:16] a movie that I watched rewatched recently

[49:19] To show it to my fiance when she wasn't feeling so well and get her mind off things was this movie called dames

[49:25] Which I don't have to talk about which is a Busby Berkeley film from the 30s

[49:29] That's one of his less heralded ones

[49:32] But I enjoy it more than 42nd Street and or many of his others

[49:36] About and it's the same basic thing about like these people want to put on a show they need money

[49:42] This the parents are disapproved of this girl's wanting to be on the stage

[49:47] Blah blah blah, but it's really goofy. Like everything about it is really goofy and silly and as

[49:53] Ludicrous as possible the big names in it aside from Dick Powell and Ruby Keillor

[49:58] Zazu pits

[50:00] Guy Kibbe, Hugh Herbert, big names.

[50:04] Household names.

[50:05] Oh, yeah.

[50:06] But kind of the cream of the crop of the supporting players

[50:10] that we're at, I guess it was.

[50:12] Yeah, I've heard of one out of three

[50:14] of those people you mentioned.

[50:15] I don't even remember what studio was, MGM or Warner

[50:17] Brothers or something.

[50:18] But the cream of the crop of the second tier guys.

[50:21] And it's really goofy and silly.

[50:23] And there are some musical numbers in it

[50:24] that, being Busby Brookley numbers, are crazy.

[50:28] There's one that I've shown people a number of times

[50:30] called The Girl at the Ironing Board,

[50:32] where Joan Blondel, who's the other big star in it,

[50:35] is a 19th century laundress singing about her crushes

[50:40] that she has on all the customers of the laundry,

[50:42] just based on the underwear that they send in,

[50:45] that she has to wash.

[50:46] And how turned on she is by washing this underwear.

[50:49] So this is a movie from 1934, I think.

[50:53] And it's a lot of fun.

[50:54] Sure.

[50:55] All right, so that's three recommendations

[50:57] for Back to the Future Part 2.

[51:00] So I guess that's it, guys.

[51:02] Yeah, it's been good.

[51:04] Well, it feels good getting back in the saddle.

[51:06] We were a little rusty.

[51:07] Yeah, you know.

[51:08] Well, I'm just not very funny, so.

[51:10] What?

[51:11] Yeah, I was waiting for you guys to, you know, thank me.

[51:13] I refuse to dig the final response.

[51:15] I was just looking for compliments.

[51:16] Thanks, dude.

[51:17] No, you're really, come on, Stuart.

[51:18] You're the dude that holds us together.

[51:20] Oh, you guys are fucking crazy.

[51:21] You're the Michelangelo.

[51:22] Come on, you're the Raphael.

[51:23] I won't buy the crossbow.

[51:25] Wolverine, come on.

[51:27] Yeah, if anyone has a job for Stuart, write in.

[51:29] Yeah, weird, yeah.

[51:31] Harness the power of the internet, why not?

[51:33] I'm a lot like Wolverine.

[51:36] He's the Wolverine of the group.

[51:37] I'm the best at what I do, bub.

[51:39] And what you do is, is it pretty?

[51:40] No, never, or rarely at least.

[51:44] I'm surprised you've talked about your prowess

[51:46] so much in public and the size of your penis

[51:49] that you haven't gone in for pleasuring women who order

[51:52] pizzas with extra anchovies.

[51:54] You know, I considered it, but I figured

[51:57] I'd spend too much time learning how to dance with them

[52:00] and like helping them kind of solve their various issues.

[52:02] And now I'm not really into that.

[52:04] All right.

[52:05] Well, you could just deliver pizzas then.

[52:07] Oh, yeah.

[52:08] To lonely California housewives.

[52:10] Divorcees.

[52:10] Yeah, that's not a bad idea.

[52:11] We'll continue to job counsel Stuart off air,

[52:14] but for now, I've been Dan McCoy.

[52:16] I've been Stuart Wellington.

[52:18] I am Ellie Kalen, now and forever, no beginning or end.

[52:22] Wow.

[52:22] Eternal.

[52:24] Meowt.

[52:25] Meowt.

[52:26] Meowt.

[52:27] Meowt.

[52:28] Where did you pick that up?

[52:29] I don't know.

[52:30] It's, I don't know.

[52:31] It was this.

[52:34] And then I inherited singing meow to every song.

[52:37] Yeah.

[52:38] Well, it works.

[52:39] It works, biatch.

[52:41] Well, you can sing pretty much anything, can't you?

[52:44] Yeah, I mean, I guess.

[52:46] Not the, not the, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

[52:50] the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

[52:53] Not the, not the, uh, meow mix song.

[52:56] No.

[52:57] Can't sing meow to that.

The Flop House: Episode #59 - Law Abiding Citizen

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