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The Flop House: Episode #86 - The Happiest Millionaire
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Dan McCoy
[0:00]
Following delays planned and unplanned, we're back with our Flophouse Honors the Troops episode, where we discuss The Happiest Millionaire.
[0:30]
Hey everyone, and welcome back to The Flophouse. I'm Dan McCoy.
[0:39]
I'm Stuart Wellington.
[0:40]
And I'm Elliot Kalin.
[0:42]
We're back, coming at you from Hurricane Alley.
[0:44]
Back again.
Stuart Wellington
[0:45]
Mm-hmm.
[0:46]
Wait, did you just come up with that, Dan?
Dan McCoy
[0:47]
Yep. That's all me.
[0:50]
Okay.
[0:50]
No one has ever said a natural disaster and then put the word Alley behind it before.
Elliott Kalan
[0:55]
Nope, never. Kate and, and then put the word Alley after it.
[0:58]
Sure, certainly.
Dan McCoy
[0:59]
It's a hit television show of many years, but never Hurricane Alley.
Elliott Kalan
[1:03]
And Crime Alley, that exists.
Dan McCoy
[1:08]
Enough shilly-shallying and dilly-dallying, guys.
[1:12]
Yeah, we had some technical difficulties.
[1:14]
Yeah.
[1:15]
Yeah.
[1:15]
I purchased some new cords.
[1:17]
And they look great on you.
[1:18]
Uh-huh.
[1:19]
I put on my new corduroy pants and then I purchased some new wires for the podcast.
[1:26]
Okay.
[1:27]
And, uh...
[1:28]
Wait, why?
[1:29]
Because we were getting hacked.
[1:31]
Uh, not hacked, but, uh...
[1:32]
It was like a pirate radio station, say.
[1:35]
Was it a pirate radio station?
[1:36]
No, I don't think so.
[1:36]
I think it was just a radio radio station.
[1:37]
I think it was a radio radio station.
[1:38]
Yeah.
[1:39]
A radio radio station.
[1:40]
A law-abiding radio station.
[1:41]
It was radio radio, as Elvis Costello would say.
Elliott Kalan
[1:44]
It was the radio station that only plays the soundtrack from the movie Radio.
[1:47]
Starring Cuba Gooding Jr.
Dan McCoy
[1:49]
Yep.
[1:50]
Um, but...
[1:51]
Radio Flyer?
Elliott Kalan
[1:52]
Yeah, yeah.
[1:53]
Radio Flyer.
[1:54]
Uh-huh.
[1:54]
Can we get a new guy to play Stuart?
Dan McCoy
[1:57]
I don't know.
[1:58]
Stuart works for, uh, pancakes.
[2:00]
So...
[2:00]
Pancakes?
[2:02]
Yep.
Stuart Wellington
[2:03]
Cakes made in the shape of pants.
[2:05]
So, I am on the fire today.
[2:08]
Um...
[2:09]
So, yeah.
[2:10]
So, we were trying to do a show last time.
[2:12]
We...
[2:13]
We watched Beastly.
[2:13]
We were all psyched about Beastly.
[2:14]
You loved it, Elliot, right?
Elliott Kalan
[2:15]
I thought it was one of the top ten movies of the never.
[2:19]
Okay.
[2:20]
So...
[2:20]
It was never good in any way.
Stuart Wellington
[2:22]
Yeah.
[2:23]
Um...
[2:23]
But...
[2:24]
So, we watched that, but then it all fucked up, right?
Dan McCoy
[2:27]
Well, halfway through, Stuart, who usually pays no attention to such things...
Stuart Wellington
[2:30]
I thought it was Elliot.
[2:31]
No, it was me.
Dan McCoy
[2:31]
Oh, okay.
[2:32]
It was him.
[2:32]
All right.
[2:33]
Sorry.
[2:33]
Stuart can do it.
Stuart Wellington
[2:34]
Yeah, who doesn't pay attention?
[2:35]
I'm not going to pay attention to stuff, Dan.
[2:36]
Come on.
Dan McCoy
[2:37]
Joke's on you.
[2:37]
We sound completely different.
[2:38]
Elliot noticed that the levels were going all over the place.
[2:42]
Yeah.
[2:42]
They were all up in there.
[2:43]
Mm-hmm.
[2:44]
And, uh...
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So, we turned it off...
Elliott Kalan
[2:46]
Well, the levels were really high, even though we weren't saying anything.
[2:49]
Like, during pauses, the levels would be really high.
Stuart Wellington
[2:51]
Which I know you're thinking, you guys watch Beastly.
[2:54]
You probably couldn't stop talking.
[2:56]
But, no.
[2:57]
There were a lot of pauses.
Elliott Kalan
[2:58]
Surprisingly enough.
[2:59]
And not just the kind of pause you'd find on a beast.
Dan McCoy
[3:02]
Yeah.
[3:04]
And, uh...
[3:04]
Yeah.
[3:04]
Audistry.
[3:06]
Apparently, some of the shielding in the mic cables, uh...
[3:10]
Was stripped or something.
[3:12]
I don't know.
[3:12]
You don't need to bore me with the technical details there, Professor.
[3:16]
Well, it's how...
[3:18]
Like, remember how...
[3:18]
Let's go to the joke.
[3:19]
Remember, Stuart, how your braces used to pick up radio signals?
[3:23]
My braces?
Elliott Kalan
[3:24]
Yeah.
[3:25]
Yeah.
[3:25]
You being a racist, you used to listen to that white power radio signal.
[3:28]
Oh, my braces.
[3:29]
Yeah.
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Okay.
[3:30]
Panzer radio.
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Sure.
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It's like that.
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I don't know.
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I had braces for years, and they never picked up radio signals.
[3:36]
Maybe I'm thinking of a kill again.
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I think you're thinking of something that never happened.
Dan McCoy
[3:41]
But we're back, baby.
[3:42]
Yeah.
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And badder than ever.
Elliott Kalan
[3:44]
Yeah.
[3:45]
And this time it's personal.
Dan McCoy
[3:49]
And this time we have the window open.
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So you may hear...
Elliott Kalan
[3:53]
We're going to go to that motorcycle and think we were farting.
[3:54]
No.
[3:55]
That was a motorcycle outside.
[3:56]
Yeah.
[3:56]
That's one of those things where I'm sure we can hear it, but it doesn't pick up on the recording.
[4:00]
Wait, when we fart?
[4:02]
Well, no.
[4:02]
That motorcycle outside.
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And people listening...
Dan McCoy
[4:04]
We hear sirens.
[4:05]
I've heard sirens, actually, on the recording before.
[4:08]
But not our farting.
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That's because we're so hot.
Elliott Kalan
[4:10]
Because it'll be a hot riff.
Dan McCoy
[4:13]
Because the heat is on.
[4:14]
It's on the street.
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And get out of the kitchen.
Elliott Kalan
[4:17]
So, we watched a movie today, right?
[4:19]
Wow.
Dan McCoy
[4:19]
Stuart, for once, being the slave driver here.
Elliott Kalan
[4:22]
So, we're saying no shilly-shallying, no dilly-dallying.
[4:24]
Like the lead character, not really, of the movie.
Dan McCoy
[4:27]
Yeah.
[4:27]
Let's talk about this.
[4:28]
So...
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This was a special request.
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This is a special request.
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This is from...
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This is for...
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From one of our...
Elliott Kalan
[4:33]
Lieutenant, last name withheld, in Iraq.
[4:35]
One of our boys overseas.
Dan McCoy
[4:36]
Uh-huh.
[4:37]
We made an offer.
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He couldn't refuse.
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We said, give us three movies.
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In 30 minutes or less.
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We will pick one.
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And we'll do a show about it.
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I'm going to finish every sentence you make.
Stuart Wellington
[4:47]
This is because he and his wife sent a request email a while ago.
[4:51]
And you, instead of reading the email, just...
[4:53]
Ignored it.
[4:54]
Ignored it, right?
[4:55]
I don't care for our listeners.
[4:57]
I don't pay attention.
[4:57]
I think you added them to your spam filter.
[4:59]
Sure.
Dan McCoy
[5:00]
I said, unsubscribe.
Elliott Kalan
[5:03]
Which is weird to say to just an email that someone wrote to you.
[5:05]
It's not a list.
[5:06]
Yeah.
[5:07]
Did you just say that to your computer?
[5:09]
Or did you...
Dan McCoy
[5:09]
It was like in Star Trek 4.
[5:12]
I picked up the mouse.
[5:13]
I don't know why I'm using a mouse because I've got a trackpad.
[5:14]
But I picked it up and I said, computer.
[5:16]
And the computer said...
[5:17]
Unsubscribe.
[5:18]
That's not how I work, Dan.
[5:20]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[5:20]
Wait.
[5:21]
So when you talk to the computer, you're more flamboyant?
Dan McCoy
[5:24]
Computer.
[5:25]
Well...
[5:25]
That was my...
[5:26]
Close window.
[5:27]
That was my impression of James Doohan in Star Trek 4.
[5:30]
Sounded like Frank Nelson.
Stuart Wellington
[5:32]
Hello, computer.
Dan McCoy
[5:34]
I crack my knuckles like he does in the movie.
[5:36]
And I said...
[5:36]
You really know Star Trek 4.
[5:37]
I gotta say...
[5:38]
It's a classic scene.
Elliott Kalan
[5:40]
Of all the movies to know the scenes that well, Star Trek 4 is not...
[5:44]
It's the...
[5:44]
Look, I'm just looking for the nuclear vessels in Alameda.
[5:47]
It's the one where they go to Wales.
[5:49]
Okay.
[5:49]
It's called Star Trek 4, The Rainy Vacation.
Dan McCoy
[5:52]
The quest for vowels.
[5:55]
Yep.
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And...
Elliott Kalan
[5:55]
They went to the wrong place.
[5:57]
Mm-hmm.
[5:58]
So, instead...
[6:00]
Let's do the last name with help.
[6:00]
Star Trek 4, Irritable Values.
[6:02]
Cowell Syndrome.
[6:03]
Yeah.
[6:04]
Man, you still got it.
[6:05]
Yep.
[6:06]
Just because I'm on break for over a week.
[6:08]
The jokes don't stop.
[6:09]
They just irritate people more because you're not getting paid for them.
Dan McCoy
[6:12]
You better believe it.
[6:13]
Could you not make these jokes?
[6:15]
You're just a human being in, like, regular life.
[6:18]
Bad is when I throw to sound bites and the sound bite doesn't play.
[6:21]
Yeah.
[6:23]
So, we were given a couple options.
Stuart Wellington
[6:28]
You asked him if he had any requests for movies we could watch, right?
Dan McCoy
[6:31]
We could watch, and we didn't do a couple of them.
[6:36]
Because we had seen them.
[6:37]
We settled on the third.
[6:37]
Well, Stuart and I...
[6:39]
You had seen it, right?
[6:40]
Right.
[6:41]
I know I had seen Splice.
[6:42]
Did you see Splice?
[6:43]
No, I haven't seen Splice.
[6:43]
I haven't seen it yet.
[6:44]
And I have to admit, again, did not hate Splice.
[6:49]
And what was the other choice?
[6:50]
The other choice was a direct DVD thing of recent vintage.
[6:53]
I can't remember.
[6:54]
They just look like your average romantic comedy.
[6:56]
So, we settled on the most challenging of the three.
[6:59]
Oh, by far.
[7:00]
Which was a 1960s Disney live-action musical.
[7:06]
Nearly three hours long.
[7:09]
Something like two hours and 53 minutes.
Elliott Kalan
[7:11]
That includes intermission and an overture, though.
[7:13]
Yeah, but the intermission was only like two minutes long.
[7:16]
Yeah, the overture was about a minute and a half.
[7:17]
The shortest intermission, because they knew audiences wanted to get back into it.
Dan McCoy
[7:19]
The actual action of the film is two hours and 40 minutes.
[7:22]
Because those are short overtures and intermissions.
[7:24]
And what was the name of this movie, Dan?
[7:25]
It was called The Happiest Millionaire.
Elliott Kalan
[7:27]
So, this is one of those classic Disney musicals.
[7:29]
Everyone's seen it.
[7:30]
Right up there with Mary Poppins and Pete's Dragon and The 120 Days of Sallow.
[7:36]
I think you're misremembering.
[7:38]
That's the Disney musical version of Sallow, The 120 Days of Sodom.
[7:45]
Sure.
Dan McCoy
[7:46]
No, this is a forgotten piece of Disney lore.
[7:49]
Now, is it rightfully forgotten?
[7:52]
Oh, God, yes.
[7:54]
Despite starring...
[7:55]
Fred McMurray.
[7:56]
Fred McMurray.
[7:57]
Live-action Disney mainstay.
Elliott Kalan
[7:59]
And Greer Garson.
Dan McCoy
[8:01]
A young Leslie Ann Warren in her first role.
Elliott Kalan
[8:05]
Yep, lesbian Ann Warren.
Dan McCoy
[8:06]
No.
[8:07]
Is she a lesbian?
[8:08]
I...
[8:08]
Well, I don't know.
[8:09]
Because her name sounds kind of like she is.
[8:11]
Like a lesbian.
Elliott Kalan
[8:11]
Yeah.
[8:12]
Thanks, Stuart.
[8:14]
For clarifying.
Stuart Wellington
[8:16]
I just figured if I backed you up on this, Dan might agree.
[8:19]
I appreciate it.
[8:19]
I don't think so.
Elliott Kalan
[8:20]
And this was, according to Wikipedia, this is the last movie Walt Disney had any hand in at Disney because he died during the election.
[8:25]
He died in the middle of it.
[8:26]
He died, I assume, while watching it because it's about 30 hours long.
[8:32]
And it's...
[8:33]
What's weird is that it's based on a true story.
Dan McCoy
[8:35]
Mm-hmm.
[8:36]
A true story that sounds much more interesting than anything that's on screen.
Elliott Kalan
[8:40]
It turns out there was this man.
[8:42]
I'm going to have to resort to Wikipedia to remind me of some of the details.
[8:45]
It turns out there was a man named Anthony J. Drexel Biddle.
[8:48]
He was a Philadelphia millionaire who was obsessed with muscular Christianity and boxing and hand-to-hand combat.
[8:55]
And he kept alligators as pets.
[8:57]
And he's kind of this eccentric Philadelphia millionaire.
Dan McCoy
[8:59]
That sounds like that would make a really interesting movie.
Elliott Kalan
[9:01]
Yeah.
[9:01]
He was a boxing enthusiast.
[9:03]
He trained the Marines in hand-to-hand fighting during World War I and World War II.
[9:07]
Really interesting stuff.
[9:08]
So how much of that was on screen during the three hours running time?
[9:11]
Well, I mean, those elements were there.
[9:13]
Yeah.
[9:13]
He did have alligators and he did occasionally box people.
Dan McCoy
[9:16]
Yeah, but most of the film was about his daughter's boring romance with Blandy Blanderson.
Elliott Kalan
[9:22]
Yeah, it took place in 1916.
[9:24]
And his – well, it opens with an Irish guy played by Tommy Steele singing about how great life is basically.
[9:30]
He sings a song called Fortuosity.
[9:32]
Yeah, he made that word up.
[9:34]
Fortuosity.
[9:34]
Sometimes things just fall into place.
[9:36]
He's made up a word, fortuosity.
[9:38]
But there is a word for that, serendipity.
[9:40]
So why bother?
[9:41]
Make up a new word.
[9:42]
But that's besides the point.
[9:43]
He gets a butling job at the Biddle Estate and then disappears for long periods of the movie.
[9:48]
Even though he – in theory, I guess he's supposed to be the narrator and hero.
Dan McCoy
[9:53]
Yeah, I don't know.
[9:54]
I mean, it's hard to say who the main character of this film is.
[9:56]
It's an ensemble work.
[9:58]
Yeah.
[9:59]
I mean, an ensemble in the sense that everyone is pretty much equally boring.
Elliott Kalan
[10:03]
But Fred McMurray is this crazy millionaire and his daughter falls in love with –
[10:08]
I mean, what makes you think he's crazy though?
[10:10]
Well, he's got alligators for pets.
[10:12]
Okay.
[10:13]
He's obsessed with boxing.
[10:14]
Continue.
[10:14]
And the Bible.
[10:15]
He runs a Bible camp in his house.
[10:17]
Okay.
Dan McCoy
[10:18]
He's obsessed with pushing America into the war.
[10:21]
Yes, and boxing.
[10:23]
That is his raison d'etre.
Stuart Wellington
[10:25]
Doesn't he almost exclusively eat chocolate cake or something?
Elliott Kalan
[10:28]
In the beginning they say he's on a chocolate cake diet, although that goes out the window.
[10:32]
We never see him eating chocolate cake at all.
[10:33]
Yeah.
[10:35]
And his daughter falls in love with the young scion of a New York business family.
[10:41]
But he dreams –
[10:42]
Named Angie.
[10:43]
Named Angie.
[10:44]
He's a man.
[10:44]
Angie is the guy.
[10:46]
And the girl's name is Steve.
[10:48]
Wait, what?
[10:48]
No, the girl's name is Cordelia.
[10:51]
Oh, yeah.
[10:51]
They call her Cordy.
[10:53]
They do.
[10:55]
I mean, that's what I call her.
[10:56]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[10:57]
But anyway.
[10:57]
Because she's like a cord of wood.
[11:00]
Yeah.
[11:00]
I mean, that's the association.
[11:04]
Horrible thing to say about somebody.
[11:06]
But –
[11:06]
Leslie Ann Warren looked lovely and she went on to a great career in other films.
[11:11]
Not this one.
[11:11]
What else did she do?
[11:13]
Well, I mean, I guess she's most known for – she was on the television show Taxi.
[11:18]
Taxi Driver, the show.
[11:19]
No, the show Taxi.
[11:20]
Travis Bukle kills a different gangsta.
[11:21]
No, the one –
[11:22]
He saves a different prostitute every week.
[11:23]
Andy Kaufman and Danny DeVito, Judd Hirsch, Christopher Lloyd.
[11:28]
Oh, DC Cab.
[11:29]
No.
[11:29]
I thought that was Rhea Perlman.
[11:31]
No, you're thinking of –
[11:31]
Yeah, Rhea Perlman.
[11:32]
You're thinking of –
[11:33]
The bin you keep your pearls in.
Stuart Wellington
[11:35]
Yeah, yeah.
[11:36]
That's what I said.
Dan McCoy
[11:37]
Also, Leslie Ann Warren was in the movie Clue as Miss Scarlet.
[11:42]
Okay.
[11:42]
You remember Miss Scarlet O'Hara?
[11:43]
Right, right, right, right, right, right, right.
[11:45]
Yeah.
[11:45]
A pretty lady.
[11:47]
Here, not much.
[11:49]
Not much.
Elliott Kalan
[11:50]
Well, I mean, there's a lot of singing and dancing.
[11:51]
Yeah.
[11:52]
She falls in love with a guy who wants to go into the automobile business, but his mother says no.
Stuart Wellington
[11:59]
Yeah, he sings a song about how he wants to go to Detroit.
Elliott Kalan
[12:01]
Yeah.
[12:02]
Detroit is where they –
Stuart Wellington
[12:03]
The only song of its –
[12:05]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[12:05]
I think he refers to it as the Golden City.
Dan McCoy
[12:08]
The past is hilarious.
[12:10]
Yes.
Elliott Kalan
[12:10]
Well, but this movie was made in the 60s when Detroit was like riding high basically.
[12:15]
So they had no idea that people would watch this movie again 44 years later and be like, oh, Detroit, that's a shithole.
Dan McCoy
[12:22]
That hellscape?
[12:23]
What?
[12:23]
Oh, my God.
Elliott Kalan
[12:25]
The place that might be putting up a statue of the robot cop that trod its post-apocalyptic soil.
[12:33]
They're not going to put up that statue anyway, Stuart.
[12:35]
I'm sorry to say.
Stuart Wellington
[12:36]
I'm still trying to get over that.
[12:38]
So was he trying to go to Detroit so he could –
[12:39]
That's all Detroit has to be proud of.
[12:41]
Was he going to Detroit so he could test his mettle against an army of chuds and biker gangs?
[12:45]
No.
Elliott Kalan
[12:46]
So he could make his name in the automobile business, which at that point was just starting to get really big.
[12:51]
But the mother of – his mother is very condescending to the Biddles and does not approve of the car plan.
[12:57]
The marriage is –
[12:58]
But he's a millionaire, right?
[12:59]
Yes.
[12:59]
The marriage is briefly broken up.
[13:02]
Then the butler saves the day by getting the young man into a bar fight and everything's okay.
[13:09]
Having him arrested.
[13:09]
Having him arrested.
[13:10]
So he can't leave town.
[13:11]
They go to prison.
[13:12]
Everything's okay.
[13:13]
He gets bailed out and the end.
[13:15]
Yeah.
[13:15]
Oh, and –
Dan McCoy
[13:16]
The guy learns to defy his mother and go off to Detroit.
Elliott Kalan
[13:18]
And be his own man in Detroit.
[13:19]
And Mr. Biddle in a last-minute De Ex Machina based in True Story is asked by the Marines to become a captain in the Marines and train the Marines in hand-to-hand combat.
Dan McCoy
[13:29]
Yeah, as America is entering the war.
Elliott Kalan
[13:32]
Now –
[13:32]
That's the end of the movie.
[13:33]
So just as the movie got interesting, the movie is over.
[13:35]
But that's –
[13:36]
Also a very simple story.
[13:38]
Does that story sound like it should be three hours long?
[13:40]
No.
[13:41]
No.
Dan McCoy
[13:42]
Not at all.
[13:43]
But it totally is.
[13:43]
But I mean the beautiful – just the beautiful production design.
[13:47]
The sterling.
[13:48]
Oof.
[13:49]
Just spectacle.
[13:50]
The purest spectacle of it.
[13:51]
Right, guys?
Elliott Kalan
[13:52]
It's weird to see a three-hour Disney musical.
[13:53]
They had money.
[13:54]
A Disney musical that has maybe three locations for most of its running time.
[13:59]
The living room, the other living room, and the boxing room.
[14:03]
There's a bit of the crocodile room.
[14:05]
Occasionally the alligator room.
[14:06]
Yeah, the alligator room.
[14:07]
The crocodiles are found in a different part of the world.
[14:08]
Sorry.
[14:09]
Occasionally –
[14:09]
I'm thinking of Rocket Crocodile in the world of tomorrow.
[14:12]
Eventually –
[14:13]
There is a whole –
[14:14]
All America can't stop thinking about Rocket Crocodile in the world of tomorrow.
[14:17]
When are you going to finish this script?
[14:18]
Elliot, please.
[14:19]
Please.
[14:19]
I'm sorry.
[14:19]
Look, I just – it's inspiration.
[14:21]
It has to come to me.
[14:22]
Sure.
[14:24]
But yeah, there is – he has alligators for pets, and they really take a long time before
[14:28]
they show you these alligators.
[14:29]
Yeah, that sounds –
[14:29]
They talk about them a lot.
[14:30]
That sounds exciting.
Stuart Wellington
[14:31]
Yeah, I expected it was going to be like Norm's wife or something from Cheers.
[14:35]
Like you're never – you're going to hear about them all the time, but you're never going
[14:37]
to see them.
Dan McCoy
[14:38]
No, but they actually had alligators.
[14:40]
They were just holding out on them.
Elliott Kalan
[14:41]
Yeah, well, that's the thing.
[14:42]
They had a whole musical number where the –
[14:43]
They waited like an hour before you see them.
[14:45]
Yeah.
[14:45]
Now, this is going to sound awesome, but it's not.
[14:48]
But the alligators are in tanks that get frozen into ice.
[14:51]
So they have alligators in blocks of ice that they're thawing out in front of a living
[14:54]
room fireplace.
[14:55]
The alligators get loose and are chasing the maid everywhere, chasing the cook everywhere.
[14:59]
There's alligators all over the place, and Tommy Steele has to –
Stuart Wellington
[15:01]
People are tossing alligators to each other?
[15:03]
They're throwing alligators at each other.
[15:05]
I mean, I think they're like caimans or something else.
Elliott Kalan
[15:06]
Yeah, they're really small.
[15:07]
But then Tommy Steele is dancing around an alligator as he pulls it along with a leash,
[15:12]
and the alligator – it's edited as if the alligator is supposed to be high-stepping
[15:15]
with him, and this sounds great to describe it, like an alligator dance
[15:19]
number.
[15:20]
Yeah, awesome.
[15:20]
But, no, it's terrible.
Stuart Wellington
[15:21]
I mean, it's better than large other swaths of the movie.
[15:25]
Oh, by far it's the best scene in the movie.
[15:26]
Yeah.
[15:27]
If we were going to edit this movie down, that's one of the pieces we would probably
[15:31]
keep.
Dan McCoy
[15:31]
Yeah, we'd keep the –
Stuart Wellington
[15:32]
Maybe do some slow motion alligator dancing, if you ask me.
Dan McCoy
[15:36]
Keep the alligator scene.
[15:38]
There's a scene where Fred McMurray beats up a marine.
[15:40]
That's kind of fun.
[15:41]
That's about a minute and a half.
[15:43]
There's a long bar fight scene that could be cut by at least two-thirds, but –
[15:48]
It's all like it was right out of Pete's Dragon.
[15:50]
Keep that in.
Elliott Kalan
[15:50]
There's a lot of scenes where characters will just be like, but that's when I do this.
[15:54]
What?
[15:55]
But what they – like people being shocked at things that are not very shocking, like the
[15:59]
idea of boxing.
Dan McCoy
[16:01]
Well, I mean, we've got to put ourselves in that mindset.
[16:04]
Apparently, he was –
Elliott Kalan
[16:05]
He was a pioneer in terms of getting boxing to be socially acceptable.
[16:08]
Yeah.
[16:08]
But then show us that.
[16:10]
Like don't just –
Dan McCoy
[16:11]
Yeah, there was a real –
[16:13]
There's a lot of dead air.
[16:14]
A lot of dead air in this movie.
[16:16]
As I was saying to Elliot, like, you know, there's this idea out there that a story has
[16:21]
to have a reason to be told.
[16:23]
And this film may have had a reason at the beginning, but it seems to have lost it along
[16:29]
the way.
Elliott Kalan
[16:30]
This is maybe the most meandering studio movie I've ever seen.
[16:34]
I mean –
[16:34]
Like if John Sayles had made this movie, I would understand why it was meandering.
[16:37]
Or like Wong Kar Wai.
[16:39]
But it's – this is a Walt Disney live action musical.
[16:44]
And it's just kind of like, well, let's sit here for a while.
Dan McCoy
[16:46]
There are several ways you could have approached the story and made it somewhat interesting.
[16:50]
I mean, we were talking about how like it could have been interesting.
Elliott Kalan
[16:52]
Make the butler a cartoon, right?
[16:54]
Yeah.
[16:55]
Make him like a cartoon penguin.
[16:56]
Yeah.
[16:56]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[16:56]
Yeah.
[16:57]
But if the butler was like the clever immigrant butler who had to save his wacky millionaire
[17:03]
Yes.
[17:04]
Employers.
Elliott Kalan
[17:06]
Like through his – they get themselves into trouble and he cleverly gets them out of it.
Dan McCoy
[17:10]
That would have been an interesting take.
[17:11]
If it was a more straight up actual historical tape focusing on the Fred McMurray character,
[17:16]
that would have been interesting.
[17:17]
Yeah.
[17:17]
Instead, they sort of focus on the daughter and her bland romance.
[17:22]
And then they throw in a bunch of other stuff that doesn't associate with that.
[17:25]
Like alligators.
[17:26]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[17:26]
If it was told from the perspective of the alligators, what do you think?
[17:29]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[17:29]
That would be good.
[17:29]
They spend most of their time just in a tank in the greenhouse.
[17:32]
If it was more like –
Stuart Wellington
[17:33]
There's a really long sequence where he's like running around trying to get the big
[17:37]
alligator back in its tank when he's in the greenhouse and he keeps accidentally walking
[17:41]
through the same pool with alligators in it.
[17:44]
Yeah.
[17:45]
That was pretty great.
[17:46]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[17:47]
Your enthusiasm just burns out of you.
[17:49]
You're saying that you wanted to be more like Bad Lieutenant Port of Call, New Orleans with a lot of more like lizard POV shots.
[17:57]
Yes.
Elliott Kalan
[17:59]
Yes, a lot of them.
[18:01]
But it's weird because the butler – and the butler is set up as your main character because
[18:04]
you spend the first like 57 minutes is one musical number.
[18:08]
I think you're overestimating.
[18:09]
That's what it felt like.
[18:11]
The butler like dancing around town just interacting with ordinary Philadelphians singing about
[18:16]
how his philosophy of life and asking directions of the same policeman like seven times.
[18:22]
Yeah.
[18:22]
And then he gets in.
[18:24]
He's hired as the butler and then you don't see him for like an hour.
[18:26]
Yeah.
[18:27]
Or like every now and then he pops and goes, oh, hello.
[18:29]
Oh, Mr. Biddle.
[18:31]
Well, okay then.
[18:32]
You know, and I'll forget.
[18:32]
He sings that one.
[18:33]
Well, he doesn't have a very good Irish accent in this either.
Stuart Wellington
[18:36]
He sings that big thing about even if he becomes an American, he'll still be Irish.
[18:39]
That's true.
[18:40]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[18:41]
Yeah.
[18:41]
He has a very racist part of that where he's like, even if I go to China, they'll say
[18:45]
Ching Wong Ching Ching Irish.
Stuart Wellington
[18:47]
And it's like, all right.
Elliott Kalan
[18:49]
That's – even in 1967, that was not cool.
Stuart Wellington
[18:52]
I'm going to pretend I didn't hear that because I want to like somebody in this movie.
Dan McCoy
[18:56]
I mean it makes sense that this – everything that you read about the behind the scenes,
[19:00]
and there's not like a lot.
[19:02]
I mean we just looked at Wikipedia.
Elliott Kalan
[19:02]
Well, we watched – there's the three-hour documentary, The Happiest Millionaire – Behind
[19:06]
The Happiest Millionaire, and there was that book, The Not-So-Happiest Millionaire.
Dan McCoy
[19:11]
It seems like this must have been a real struggle to put this movie together.
[19:14]
Like they did not know what they were doing at a certain point.
[19:17]
They're like, if we keep throwing money at this, maybe –
Elliott Kalan
[19:20]
It feels like Walt Disney read the book it's based on, which was written by the real-life
[19:24]
daughter, and said, I want to make a movie of this.
[19:26]
This is – I'm nostalgic for the time period this movie set in.
[19:30]
Like let's do it.
[19:31]
And then other people tried to figure out a way to make – to film this unfilmable book
[19:36]
that Walt Disney wanted them to film.
[19:38]
That's my assumption.
[19:39]
Then that he died halfway through it.
[19:40]
So they were like, oh, let's just throw this thing together.
[19:43]
Let's just get it out there.
[19:45]
Because there's a lot of like – I'm sure if you grew up in 1916, you'd be like, oh, those days.
[19:49]
I remember them.
[19:50]
Oh, what an enjoyable romp.
Dan McCoy
[19:53]
People liked cars and boxing and such.
[19:55]
Exactly.
[19:56]
People wanted to move to Detroit.
[19:59]
Beautiful Detroit.
Stuart Wellington
[20:00]
Yeah.
[20:01]
Get in on the ground floor.
[20:03]
Of filth.
Dan McCoy
[20:04]
Stuart, what was your favorite musical number from this?
[20:07]
Do you remember any of them?
Elliott Kalan
[20:08]
The –
[20:09]
Because I only remember Fortuosity and No Shilly Shallying, No Dilly Dallying.
Stuart Wellington
[20:12]
Well, No Shilly Shallying, No Dilly Dallying is probably the best.
Elliott Kalan
[20:14]
That's the song that leads to the bar fight.
Stuart Wellington
[20:18]
And of course the – he's Irish no matter where he goes.
[20:21]
Oh, yeah.
[20:21]
Or the bit where the two girls in the private school are teaching each other how to flirt with boys.
Dan McCoy
[20:30]
Oh, pom pom poi or whatever it's called.
[20:31]
Yeah.
[20:31]
Yep.
[20:32]
That was a scene that, yeah, if this movie was made like even just ten years later,
[20:37]
there would be some sort of making out that would have resulted in that scene.
[20:40]
I don't know about that.
[20:41]
It seemed like a weird tension to that scene.
Elliott Kalan
[20:43]
There were a lot of moments in that scene where it seemed like the girls were about to start making out.
Dan McCoy
[20:47]
It's like, teach me how to flirt.
[20:48]
Teach – and then they both get on like the same bed and they're like gazing into each other's eyes.
Elliott Kalan
[20:51]
I think you're projecting.
[20:52]
I think we're just a little too versed in lesbian –
[20:55]
Yeah, I'm thinking of my own lesbian experiences.
[20:57]
Lesbian – yes.
[20:58]
Your own college experiences.
[20:59]
I think we're a little too versed in –
[21:01]
Well, college is the time to experiment, Elliot.
[21:03]
Yeah, that's true.
[21:04]
With science.
[21:05]
But also lesbian.
[21:06]
That reminds me of one of my favorite lines from a softcore porn movie where it's two girls.
[21:11]
One of them says to the other, they say college is the time to experiment, so let's get experimenting.
[21:16]
And they just start making out.
[21:18]
It's the lamest.
Dan McCoy
[21:19]
So that's when they invent their web slingers.
Elliott Kalan
[21:22]
Yes, exactly.
[21:23]
And they invent their web shooters and their spider tracers.
[21:27]
Yep.
[21:29]
The utility belts.
[21:31]
But the – I think we're a little too versed in porn for straight men that involves two women together.
[21:39]
Because so that anytime –
[21:40]
Too versed.
[21:41]
Anytime that two women are sitting on a bed or one says – or like even one puts her face a little too close to the other one, we're like, well, of course they'll start making out now.
Stuart Wellington
[21:48]
Well, if there's two women and a bed in the same room.
Dan McCoy
[21:52]
That's the natural end point.
[21:54]
That's the end game, right?
[21:56]
That's what happens.
[21:57]
That's the end game, yeah.
[21:58]
Yeah.
[22:00]
So we just talked about some sweet musical numbers.
[22:04]
Pump Boy.
Elliott Kalan
[22:04]
Well, there are other musical numbers too.
[22:06]
Rum Tum Tugger.
[22:07]
There's the song –
Stuart Wellington
[22:08]
Now, there was the bits where we fast forwarded a little bit, but we still – we were still able to – wait.
[22:15]
No, but we didn't fast – we could still hear it.
[22:17]
It just sounded like –
[22:17]
Yeah, we fast forwarded.
Dan McCoy
[22:18]
It was like three hours long.
[22:20]
Stuart needs to get to work after this.
[22:22]
We fast forwarded on the mode where you can still hear what they're saying.
Stuart Wellington
[22:26]
Yeah, so when Fred McMurtry or whatever –
[22:29]
Yeah, Larry McMurtry.
[22:30]
When he was singing that song about –
Elliott Kalan
[22:32]
When he was done writing The Last Picture Show, he starred in The Happiest Millionaire.
Stuart Wellington
[22:37]
Yeah, when he was singing that song about how we should go to war with Germany or something for those Marines.
[22:44]
That was another song, and then he ends up beating that dude up, and then they sing the conclusion of it.
Elliott Kalan
[22:49]
And they also – he learns – the young – the fiancé wins him over by showing him a jiu-jitsu move.
[22:56]
So like – and that teaches him something he's never seen before about hand-to-hand fighting.
[23:00]
So this is a movie about the happiest millionaire.
[23:02]
His relationships are based on hand-to-hand combat, and yet it was very boring.
[23:06]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[23:07]
Didn't he have a couple of sons or something at the very beginning?
[23:09]
Yeah, they kind of dissolved, I think, after a while.
Elliott Kalan
[23:12]
They may have gone into the Marines or something.
Dan McCoy
[23:13]
The dancing, alligators.
[23:16]
Jiu-jitsu.
[23:16]
Jiu-jitsu.
[23:17]
Still dull.
Elliott Kalan
[23:19]
Still super boring.
[23:21]
Super long.
Dan McCoy
[23:22]
These scenes just extended way past their normal, like, end point.
[23:25]
That was the other thing.
[23:26]
There was – it's not even like –
[23:28]
I mean, maybe they thought –
[23:28]
There's so much story here.
[23:30]
It's got to be three hours.
[23:31]
It was just scenic bloat and everything.
Elliott Kalan
[23:32]
Maybe they thought the audience was going to burst into applause after every line of dialogue.
[23:36]
Yeah.
[23:36]
So they needed long pauses between them.
Stuart Wellington
[23:38]
Well, yeah.
[23:39]
They were expecting people to develop a real deep connection with the movie, see it multiple times,
[23:43]
and then create some kind of a culture around it where they are, like, laughing.
[23:47]
Every line has become part of the American psyche.
Elliott Kalan
[23:49]
Yeah, they yell out responses.
[23:51]
Yeah.
[23:52]
They wave spoons.
[23:54]
Or toast.
[23:55]
They wave alligators over their heads during the alligator scenes.
[23:58]
They wear boxing gloves.
Stuart Wellington
[24:00]
See, I paid attention.
[24:02]
You remember one thing.
[24:05]
I remember boxing gloves.
Elliott Kalan
[24:07]
Oh, God.
[24:08]
Yeah, it is – it was – there's maybe 35 minutes worth of movie here that they extended to almost three hours.
[24:13]
So thank you, LeBan, last name withheld.
[24:15]
I mean, you know.
[24:16]
It was a simple pleasure.
Dan McCoy
[24:17]
It was a real tale of the immigrant experience in America, though.
[24:20]
No, it wasn't.
[24:22]
The Irish guy?
[24:23]
Yeah.
[24:24]
Sure.
[24:25]
Just off the boat, Irish guy who we first see in a three-piece tweed suit and a hat and –
[24:32]
Like a really good-looking suit.
[24:32]
A really nice suit.
Stuart Wellington
[24:34]
Yeah, I mean, except for, like, in a green tie, right?
[24:37]
So we know he's Irish.
Elliott Kalan
[24:38]
Well, just off – fresh off the boat.
Stuart Wellington
[24:39]
Well, a green lining for his suit.
Elliott Kalan
[24:41]
Just because he's fresh off the boat doesn't mean he's a poor guy in steerage.
[24:44]
Like he could have been on a carnival cruise line or something.
Stuart Wellington
[24:47]
Didn't he say he wanted to get a lot of his immigrant clothes or something?
[24:51]
Yeah, but he's wearing, like, a really nice suit.
[24:52]
Yeah, like, I want those clothes.
[24:54]
Yeah.
[24:55]
So –
[24:55]
You look good in those clothes.
[24:56]
Yeah, can you guys get those for me?
[24:58]
I don't think so.
[24:59]
I mean –
[25:00]
We could write to Tommy Steele.
[25:01]
He's still alive.
[25:02]
Yeah, I mean, you could probably get them.
[25:03]
Like on eBay or something.
[25:06]
For, like, my wedding.
[25:07]
I don't –
[25:08]
I mean, he's short.
[25:09]
For your wedding gift.
[25:09]
I mean, he's short.
Stuart Wellington
[25:09]
So we might have to stretch them.
[25:10]
That's what you do, right?
[25:11]
Yeah, you stretch clothes out.
[25:12]
Yeah, you just stretch them out.
[25:13]
That's how it gets clothes.
Elliott Kalan
[25:14]
You steam them and you stretch them.
[25:17]
You just tie them to a rack and you pull until the clothes are your size.
[25:21]
Okay, so we'll do that.
[25:24]
So I feel like we've made the sacrifice that most of America hasn't made to support our men overseas by seeing this movie.
Stuart Wellington
[25:33]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[25:33]
So this is like – this is a three-hour movie.
[25:40]
And I feel like we've run out of things to say a good ten minutes before we normally –
Elliott Kalan
[25:45]
It's because it was a movie that didn't have, like, glaring problems with it except slowness and dullness.
[25:52]
Yeah.
[25:52]
The songs were not particularly memorable except for shilly-shallying, dilly-dallying.
Stuart Wellington
[25:55]
Yeah, I mean, that's going to stick with me forever.
Elliott Kalan
[25:57]
Yeah, even though I've kind of forgotten how it goes already.
Stuart Wellington
[26:00]
Something like shilly-shally, dilly-dally, I'm going to go to China.
[26:03]
No, no.
[26:03]
No, yeah, that was how it went.
Elliott Kalan
[26:05]
It was something like that.
[26:07]
But, like, it's – there's just not – this was meant to be, like, a big road show production.
[26:11]
That's why it had an overture and an intermission and why it's so long.
[26:15]
And they wanted it to do the same business that Mary Poppins did.
[26:18]
But, like, Mary Poppins has so many memorable moments.
[26:21]
And this – it's like – it's like at every moment they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
[26:25]
We did that in Mary Poppins.
[26:26]
Let's try unmemorable this time.
[26:28]
Yeah.
[26:29]
They just went out of the way to make it very bland.
[26:31]
I will mention that in my research for it after we saw it, I noticed that the director, Norman Tokar, who directed a lot of Disney movies,
[26:38]
it mentions on Wikipedia that he made the Dean Jones, Suzanne Plachette slapstick comedy The Ugly Dachshund.
[26:43]
So if anyone's ever seen the movie The Ugly Dachshund, which sounds amazing, I guess write into the Flophouse.
[26:49]
What's the email address?
[26:51]
Flophouse at theflophouse.com?
Dan McCoy
[26:53]
I think it's theflophousepodcast at gmail.com.
[26:56]
Okay.
Elliott Kalan
[26:56]
The longest and most needlessly long.
[27:00]
Everything.
[27:00]
The email address, the URL.
[27:01]
It's always ridiculously overlong.
[27:04]
Just like this movie.
[27:05]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[27:05]
Non-memorable.
[27:06]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[27:06]
Just like the happiest – the other thing is like he wasn't that happy a millionaire.
[27:09]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[27:10]
Why the happiest millionaire?
[27:11]
We barely touch on his money.
[27:13]
Look, there has to be a war, his happiness.
Elliott Kalan
[27:16]
And most of the thing is him being disappointed in people.
Dan McCoy
[27:18]
There has to be a reason that we're watching this movie.
[27:20]
Like, he can't just be a happy millionaire.
[27:22]
He has to be the happiest millionaire, guys.
[27:23]
Just call it something different.
[27:24]
That's what you learn in screenwriting.
[27:25]
Sure.
[27:25]
Call it Alligator Boxer.
[27:27]
Oh, man.
[27:27]
I like that one.
Elliott Kalan
[27:28]
That's a good title.
[27:29]
That's good.
[27:29]
Or what about like Mr. Marine?
Stuart Wellington
[27:32]
Alligator Boxer.
[27:33]
Put an alligator, put some biking gloves on him.
[27:35]
That's your poster.
[27:36]
That's a poster.
[27:36]
Sure.
[27:36]
You got the poster right there.
[27:37]
So I'm going to push right –
[27:39]
And a bow tie.
[27:39]
I'm going to –
[27:39]
A green bow tie.
[27:40]
Because he's Irish, yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[27:41]
Yeah.
[27:41]
Or you have an alligator in boxing gloves and then a butler standing next to him with like
[27:44]
a tray with like a bottle of champagne and a mouse on it.
Stuart Wellington
[27:48]
That's the – that tells me all I need to know about this movie.
[27:51]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[27:52]
That sets you up to be disappointed by the film.
Dan McCoy
[27:56]
I'm going to push past – I'm going to push right past Final Judgments because I
[28:00]
assume –
[28:01]
Good, good movie.
[28:02]
That everyone's going to say it's a bad, bad movie.
[28:05]
Undiscovered classic.
[28:05]
Bad, bad movie.
[28:06]
Everyone?
[28:06]
Everyone?
[28:07]
I would say it was a bad, bad movie.
[28:09]
Just so we can get in a few more letters.
[28:11]
We got a lot of letters.
[28:13]
Cracking the whip over here.
Stuart Wellington
[28:14]
I got – I got something for you guys, by the way.
[28:17]
Okay.
[28:17]
Before we get into the letters, since I last really saw you guys, I went on a little trip.
[28:23]
I went to –
[28:24]
Found memory lane.
[28:24]
I went to a place called Gen Con.
[28:27]
What?
[28:27]
The world's largest gaming convention in all of the world.
[28:32]
And I got you guys because I like you guys a lot.
Dan McCoy
[28:34]
What?
[28:35]
Yeah, I got you guys something really cool.
Elliott Kalan
[28:36]
Oh, and I didn't even get you anything when I was in Montana this past week.
Stuart Wellington
[28:39]
The Bratz Fashion Party Fever collectible card game.
[28:43]
What?
[28:44]
Yep.
[28:44]
You're seeing it for the first time.
[28:46]
Stuart is not lying.
[28:47]
He's holding it in his hands.
[28:48]
This is the –
[28:48]
Bratz Fashion Party Forever.
[28:50]
This is the –
[28:51]
It's Fashion Party Fever.
[28:53]
Fever.
[28:53]
Well, I like mine more.
[28:54]
There's super styling collectible cards.
[28:56]
Two-player starter set.
[28:58]
And it's for ages 8 and up.
Dan McCoy
[28:59]
I assume Fashion Party Fever is like a Contagion-style game where there's a Fashion Party bug that
[29:06]
is going through the world.
Stuart Wellington
[29:07]
It's similar to the popular game Pandemic.
[29:10]
So the taglines are dress up, throw a party, and dance all night long.
[29:14]
In card form.
[29:15]
In card form.
[29:16]
So this was a 2003 T-O-T-Y winner, Property of the Year.
Elliott Kalan
[29:23]
Oh, a Toddy winner.
[29:24]
Oh, the Toddy.
Stuart Wellington
[29:24]
That was the Toy of the Year Awards.
Elliott Kalan
[29:27]
So the gets its own –
[29:29]
So guys, since this –
[29:30]
You could just say the T-O-Y Awards, Toy of the Year.
[29:33]
Toady, you lose the word toy as the acronym.
[29:36]
Yeah.
[29:37]
Wow.
[29:37]
I mean that's bad design.
[29:38]
We should call them.
Dan McCoy
[29:39]
That is –
Stuart Wellington
[29:40]
So I got you guys this because I know you love Bratz and it's for two people.
Elliott Kalan
[29:44]
Oh, we love Bratz.
[29:45]
Like you don't love Bratz.
Stuart Wellington
[29:46]
Well, I love Bratz too.
[29:48]
But I thought if I got you guys a two-player game, I could watch you two play.
[29:52]
Now can I –
[29:53]
I'm just going to sit back.
[29:53]
Okay, that's weird.
[29:54]
Now can I turn the lights out in my corner and I'd watch you guys play while I drink.
[29:57]
So this is like one of those –
Elliott Kalan
[29:59]
Any of those stripper serial killer movies where a stripper is dancing for a guy in the shadows
[30:03]
in a private dance and then he strangles her.
Stuart Wellington
[30:05]
Well, we might –
[30:07]
I might strangle you.
[30:08]
Okay.
Dan McCoy
[30:09]
Guys, I want to –
Stuart Wellington
[30:09]
But I want to watch you play.
Dan McCoy
[30:10]
I want to read a little of the ad copy on the back of this though.
[30:13]
Okay.
[30:14]
It says, dress up, throw a party, dance all night long.
[30:18]
Yeah, we heard that part.
[30:19]
Yeah, I did that.
[30:20]
Oh, sorry.
[30:21]
Well, did you notice that night is spelled N-I-T-E?
[30:23]
I did not.
[30:24]
Didn't mention it.
[30:25]
It says, includes two totally hot 37-card decks.
[30:29]
So the decks are hot?
[30:30]
Naslin dance floor play mat.
[30:32]
Rockin' rules sheet.
Elliott Kalan
[30:34]
Wait, even the rules sheet is rockin'?
[30:36]
It is.
Stuart Wellington
[30:38]
That's the only time I've ever heard rules is being described as cool.
[30:41]
Is rules spelled with a Z?
[30:42]
Please tell me it is.
[30:43]
I'm sorry, it isn't.
Dan McCoy
[30:44]
Boo.
[30:45]
Bratz, you let me down.
[30:45]
Doesn't sound rockin'.
[30:46]
Well, wait.
[30:47]
Hold on.
[30:47]
Listen to this word that has been made up for the next thing.
[30:50]
Fortuosity?
[30:51]
Funcalish?
[30:52]
Funcalish game pieces.
[30:55]
Secret question decoder.
[30:57]
Tons of super-styling Bratz fashions and characters.
[31:01]
Funcalish?
[31:01]
Yeah.
[31:03]
Oh, man.
[31:03]
So apparently the goal is to swap fashion cards and complete the fashion passion prism,
[31:08]
and all the Bratz will be strutting it on the dance floor in style.
Stuart Wellington
[31:11]
Is that like the Triforce?
Dan McCoy
[31:12]
I have no idea.
[31:13]
The fashion passion prism?
Stuart Wellington
[31:13]
It looks like there's going to be a lot of Bratz character artwork on these things.
[31:18]
No noses and big lips and big eyes and tiny waist.
[31:20]
My only request is you guys refrain from masturbating.
[31:23]
This was a gift for playing games.
[31:24]
I cannot masturbate by any promises.
Elliott Kalan
[31:26]
You know that I have a fetish for women whose heads are basically golf balls with features
[31:30]
attached.
[31:31]
So no dice.
[31:32]
No can do.
[31:34]
That's why I like Bratz and Rachel Lee Cook.
[31:38]
Wow.
[31:39]
Take that star if she's all that.
Dan McCoy
[31:42]
That is amazing.
Elliott Kalan
[31:43]
Oh, and there's a super-styling spa party sweepstakes.
[31:46]
Ooh, oh.
[31:48]
It ended in April 1st of 2014.
[31:50]
Okay.
[31:52]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[31:53]
That was a hot commodity at Gen Con.
[31:55]
Oh, you said it.
[31:56]
Yeah, I don't want to.
[31:56]
I mean, I don't want to.
Elliott Kalan
[31:57]
Send a self-addressed stand envelope to Super Stylin Spa Party, 5909 Sea Otter Place,
[32:03]
Carlsbad, California.
[32:04]
Wow.
[32:04]
So it is at Sea Otter Place.
Dan McCoy
[32:07]
Stuart, I don't want to insult you with this question, but on the other hand, I kind of
[32:11]
want to know how much does one pay for the Bratz card game?
[32:15]
It was $2 before tax.
Stuart Wellington
[32:19]
So you love each of us $1.
[32:21]
I do have to say, the look on the saleswoman's face when I asked for it, priceless.
[32:26]
I got to tell you.
[32:29]
Did a policeman follow you around for the rest of the convention?
[32:33]
No.
[32:33]
I was not in any way the creepiest guy there.
[32:37]
So awesome.
[32:39]
That's a personal triumph for you.
[32:40]
That was my gift to you guys.
[32:41]
Thank you so much.
[32:43]
Listeners at home.
[32:45]
It's like they're reading with their ears.
[32:46]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[32:48]
Maybe I'll...
[32:49]
You got to put up a picture of it.
[32:50]
Yeah, I should take up a picture of this.
Elliott Kalan
[32:52]
Maybe.
[32:52]
Or even link to the Amazon.com link.
[32:53]
How about you guys...
Stuart Wellington
[32:54]
Yeah, like you guys give it a thumbs up.
[32:55]
Hold it.
[32:56]
We'll deal with it in a minute.
[32:57]
Yeah, come on.
Dan McCoy
[32:58]
So, before we get to the letters...
Elliott Kalan
[33:01]
Spoilers on the card game.
Dan McCoy
[33:03]
Before we get to the letters, I just want to thank T. Coburn and C. Simmons for their donations.
[33:09]
Thanks, guys.
[33:10]
Generous donations.
[33:12]
Coburn and Simmons.
[33:14]
So, there were a couple of...
[33:16]
Private eyes.
[33:17]
There were a couple of male things that we had to lose because of...
[33:21]
Male?
Elliott Kalan
[33:22]
Wait, male things we had to lose?
[33:23]
It's like people got their penises cut off?
[33:25]
Yeah.
[33:26]
Like beards removed?
Dan McCoy
[33:28]
Because of the...
[33:30]
Because of the...
Elliott Kalan
[33:31]
What other male things are there?
Dan McCoy
[33:33]
Because of the lost episode...
[33:35]
Oh.
[33:36]
Some of the older emails I'm going to have to skip.
[33:39]
We can always do those at the end if we have time.
[33:41]
Well, we'll see.
[33:42]
We'll see.
[33:43]
Um...
[33:44]
But I'm going to move on.
[33:45]
Harsh taskmaster.
[33:47]
Um...
[33:48]
Harsh taskmaster.
[33:49]
Angie.
[33:51]
Angie, last name withheld.
[33:53]
Um...
[33:53]
Her last name is List.
[33:55]
She, uh...
[33:55]
Angie.
Stuart Wellington
[33:56]
Is that that character from that movie we just watched?
[33:58]
Yep.
Elliott Kalan
[33:58]
Yep.
[33:58]
He's a successful car executive in Detroit now.
[34:02]
Um...
[34:02]
He's 100 years old.
Dan McCoy
[34:04]
Her main...
[34:05]
Her main thrust for email is whether any of us have seen the German movie Killer Condom.
[34:10]
That's a German movie?
[34:11]
Is it?
[34:12]
I've never seen it.
Elliott Kalan
[34:12]
I know that Troma released it years ago.
[34:14]
Mm-hmm.
[34:15]
Uh...
[34:16]
I assumed it was a Troma film, but maybe they were distributing a German film.
[34:19]
But the, uh...
[34:20]
Or maybe it's a remake of the Troma Killer Condom.
[34:22]
I don't know.
Dan McCoy
[34:23]
The main thing I wanted to, uh, read from her is the, uh...
[34:27]
Second, uh, paragraph where she, uh...
[34:30]
She talks how much...
[34:31]
She laughs.
[34:33]
She enjoys the show.
[34:34]
She says,
[34:34]
The dick popcorn thing had me choking.
[34:36]
I was trying to keep from laughing.
[34:38]
I'd say more.
[34:38]
You do not want to choke on dick popcorn.
[34:40]
But I might turn into a dithering fangirl, and that's not very professional.
[34:43]
Though I have developed a bit of a thing for Elliot's way of saying anywho.
[34:48]
Yes.
[34:48]
So, I just wanted to get that in there.
[34:50]
Hello.
[34:51]
Because I can't imagine.
[34:53]
Anyone, uh...
[34:55]
Else ever liking that.
[34:56]
Being anything but irritated by that.
Elliott Kalan
[34:59]
Dan, you have to understand that things I do that irritate you delights and enchant the listeners.
[35:04]
Yeah.
[35:05]
All right.
[35:05]
Well...
[35:06]
Well, thank you very much, writer.
[35:08]
That was an anti.
[35:08]
And your last name well withheld.
Dan McCoy
[35:10]
Uh, this, uh, this next one's called Heart Ticket to Hawaii.
[35:13]
It relates to something that I showed you, gentlemen, before the podcast.
[35:16]
Yes.
Elliott Kalan
[35:16]
Oh, okay.
[35:17]
I'm trying to remember back.
[35:18]
All I can remember is shilly-shallying, dilly-dallying.
[35:20]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[35:21]
It says, hello, Dan, Stuart, and Elliot.
[35:23]
I'm a big fan of the show, having hopped on the post-AV Club bandwagon.
[35:27]
Thank you.
[35:27]
And I've started to listen to every episode for the second time, much as the chagrin of
[35:31]
my wife, who's usually trying to get some work done, while I sit and laugh at myself across
[35:34]
the room.
[35:35]
Speaking of my wife...
Stuart Wellington
[35:36]
I can imagine an Andy Cap style figure.
[35:38]
Sure.
Elliott Kalan
[35:40]
Sorry, love.
[35:41]
Gotta listen to the podcast.
[35:43]
Flop house, eh?
[35:44]
Hop down the pub.
[35:47]
Sorry.
[35:48]
Speaking of my wife...
[35:49]
Somebody's cheese fries.
[35:51]
Andy Cap's cheese fries.
[35:52]
They're hot fries.
[35:52]
Hot fries.
[35:53]
Hot...
[35:53]
But they're cheese fries.
[35:56]
Even though they're called Andy...
[35:56]
They're very hot.
Dan McCoy
[35:57]
Uh, hot fries.
Elliott Kalan
[35:59]
What?
[36:00]
They come in a plastic...
[36:01]
Okay.
[36:01]
Hot fries.
[36:02]
Alright.
[36:03]
You've bested me in knowledge of Andy Cap-based bar foods.
Dan McCoy
[36:07]
Uh, he says, speaking of my wife, I'm allowed to, we're married.
[36:11]
On at least one episode of your show, you referenced the B, C, question mark?
[36:15]
D, question mark?
[36:16]
Movie classic, Hard Ticket to Hawaii.
[36:18]
One of Dan's favorites.
[36:19]
While my wife was working for a now-defunct current TV show, she and some co-workers did
[36:24]
a particularly faithful shot-for-shot remake of the You Got a Great Ass scene from the film.
[36:29]
I thought you'd appreciate both the attention to detail and the utter pointlessness of the
[36:33]
project.
[36:34]
It is here, and he gives a link.
[36:36]
Uh, again, love the podcast.
[36:37]
Please continue to have an erratic release schedule.
[36:39]
Otherwise, I won't find time to catch up with the Fresh Air podcast.
[36:42]
That's from Will, last name with help.
Elliott Kalan
[36:43]
Interesting that you're alternating between this and Fresh Air, which are two very different
[36:47]
podcasts.
[36:48]
Um, but, uh...
[36:49]
I think, uh, the...
[36:51]
What's her name on Fresh Air?
[36:52]
Terry Gross?
[36:53]
Is that her name?
[36:53]
Terry Gross, yeah.
[36:54]
She talks a lot less about wormy boners and, uh, Invisible Maniac than we do.
Stuart Wellington
[36:58]
Then I'm kind of glad I haven't been listening to this Fresh Air or whatever.
Dan McCoy
[37:04]
So we watched that, uh, hard ticket to Hawaii.
[37:06]
It was very faithful.
[37:07]
Yeah, it was very funny.
[37:08]
We don't know, uh...
[37:10]
Now, a key piece of information that you leave out is whether that was your wife in the, uh,
[37:14]
who had the titular Great Ass.
[37:16]
Um...
[37:17]
I knew Dan was gonna ask this question.
[37:18]
Well, look.
[37:19]
It was a nice question.
Elliott Kalan
[37:20]
It's gotta be a fucking creepazoid, dude.
[37:22]
No, I'm just...
[37:22]
One, a creepazoid, and two, he needs to put a name with a butt.
[37:25]
Yeah, I do.
Dan McCoy
[37:26]
Yeah, that seems to be a theme of the day.
[37:29]
No, but I'm saying, I, I, you know...
[37:31]
We had a conversation about this earlier with Dan.
[37:33]
I love, I love personalities, Stuart.
[37:35]
I don't just love body parts.
[37:37]
Sure.
[37:37]
So you like a butt with personality.
[37:38]
I need to put a great personality with a great body part.
[37:41]
Okay.
[37:43]
Um, but, uh, yeah.
[37:44]
No, that was a...
Stuart Wellington
[37:45]
So his wife wasn't the guy with the, uh, frisbee in the neck.
Dan McCoy
[37:49]
Oh, it's true.
[37:49]
I mean, like, we don't know.
[37:50]
I mean, this could be a gay gentleman who, uh, his wife could be the, uh...
[37:54]
Well, like he's doing wife and air quotes or something?
Stuart Wellington
[37:57]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[37:57]
Well, you know.
[37:58]
I've heard that.
[37:59]
I've heard, uh...
Stuart Wellington
[38:00]
No, I guess you're right.
[38:01]
That's fair.
[38:01]
I've heard that from me.
[38:01]
Come on, Stuart.
[38:02]
It's the 21st century.
[38:03]
You gotta expand your definition.
[38:05]
Mm-hmm.
[38:05]
See, it's all...
Dan McCoy
[38:07]
I'm trying to redefine marriage for you before you get married.
Elliott Kalan
[38:10]
It's weird since Dan's character on the podcast has been established as a violent homophobe.
[38:15]
And yet he seems to have some kind of reversal.
[38:18]
What, Dan, what changed your opinion on this issue?
Dan McCoy
[38:21]
This was something that was placed upon me.
[38:22]
I've always been very open to all...
[38:24]
Because Flophouse listeners know, if you've been paying attention to Flophouse continuity...
Elliott Kalan
[38:27]
No, no, I'm very...
[38:28]
He is horribly intolerant.
[38:29]
And yet, perhaps over the past week or two...
[38:32]
Not homophobic at all?
[38:32]
He's had some kind of eye-opening experience.
Dan McCoy
[38:34]
All right.
[38:35]
Well, fine.
[38:36]
I mean, like, I'll accept it.
[38:38]
I mean, if this puts to bed the idea that I'm some sort of homophobe...
[38:42]
Well, I mean, you're not anymore.
[38:43]
You used to be.
[38:43]
No, that's not true.
Stuart Wellington
[38:44]
But, I mean, you could have a relapse.
[38:47]
At any moment.
[38:47]
Yeah, at any moment.
[38:49]
You never know.
Elliott Kalan
[38:50]
And he also has a hook for a hand.
Dan McCoy
[38:52]
Yep.
[38:53]
And I'm trying to take down the government.
Elliott Kalan
[38:54]
Also been established.
[38:56]
He really overloaded you with hooks.
Dan McCoy
[39:00]
So, I forget what we were talking about, but I'll put that hard ticket to Hawaii.
Elliott Kalan
[39:03]
But you're leering at this man's, possibly his wife.
[39:07]
Possibly his wife.
[39:08]
And if not his wife, somebody's daughter.
[39:09]
It was put on YouTube.
[39:10]
What else?
[39:11]
Yes, somebody's daughter and somebody's mother.
[39:12]
Everyone's someone's daughter.
Dan McCoy
[39:15]
Your fiancé is someone's daughter.
[39:17]
What the...
[39:18]
I hope not.
[39:19]
The things he does with her.
[39:20]
And I do terrible things to her.
Elliott Kalan
[39:21]
The point was, they went out of their way to do a shot-by-shot remake of a scene from a terrible movie.
[39:28]
And all you could focus on was the female body parts.
Dan McCoy
[39:30]
Well, that was a...
[39:31]
To be fair, that was a terrible movie that all it could focus on was the female body parts in it.
[39:35]
You're mixing the medium and the message.
[39:36]
The whole point of the movie was to have things blow up and for body parts to be bared.
[39:42]
That's true.
[39:42]
That's the point of Andy Sedaris' oeuvre.
[39:46]
Oeuvre.
Elliott Kalan
[39:47]
Andy Sedaris is a particular favorite director of Dan's.
[39:49]
Yeah.
[39:49]
He did one of their movies, Hard Tickets in Malibu.
Dan McCoy
[39:52]
Savage Beach.
[39:53]
Savage Beach.
[39:53]
Picasso Trigger.
[39:55]
Do or Die.
[39:56]
Do or Die.
[39:57]
Something Express.
Elliott Kalan
[39:57]
Do or Die is the one where there's a mercenary named Hot Dog in it.
[40:00]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[40:01]
Yeah.
[40:02]
And it's all...
[40:03]
Wait, wait, wait.
[40:04]
Hot Dog the movie?
[40:05]
No, no, no.
Elliott Kalan
[40:06]
Hot Dog the guy.
[40:08]
I know it's easy to get mixed up.
[40:09]
But is he named after the food or the movie?
[40:11]
Well, his name is not Hot Dog the movie.
Dan McCoy
[40:13]
Now, this is a...
[40:13]
Andy Sedaris, this is a former sports journalist.
[40:17]
I think he worked for Sports Illustrated, who then made a career out of making movies basically
[40:22]
where former Playboy models carried bazookas around in tropical climates and blew things up.
[40:27]
Carried them in front of their bazookas.
[40:29]
Yeah.
[40:30]
Well, okay, wait.
[40:31]
Now who is objectifying?
[40:32]
That's cheeky.
[40:33]
Okay.
Elliott Kalan
[40:33]
Come on.
[40:34]
That's lovely.
[40:35]
He said it ironically.
[40:36]
The video was cheeky.
[40:37]
That's what I'm saying.
[40:38]
That's gross.
[40:39]
You're making me uncomfortable.
[40:42]
All right.
[40:42]
Well, let's move on.
[40:43]
My remark was very PG.
[40:45]
Yours is, I don't know, punch to play.
[40:46]
Especially the look on his face.
[40:48]
Yeah.
[40:49]
That's the look of a man in a raincoat in a theater in the middle of the day.
Dan McCoy
[40:52]
Look, just because I'm visibly drooling and I've removed my pants doesn't mean that there's
[40:58]
anything untwored about it.
[40:58]
I don't even know how you did that.
[40:59]
I didn't see you do it.
Elliott Kalan
[41:00]
Well, the drool lubricated his pants.
[41:03]
Did they dissolve his pants made out of sugar?
[41:06]
Yep.
[41:07]
Yep.
Dan McCoy
[41:08]
Sugar pants?
[41:08]
Easy access.
[41:09]
That's why they call him that.
[41:10]
So, this is an email titled, Dramatic Contest Results.
[41:17]
And it's from Stuart, last name withheld.
[41:19]
Wait a minute.
[41:20]
Stuart, did you get drunk and email it?
[41:22]
Spelled differently, but that could be a not too clever attempt to conceal.
[41:26]
Stuart's the best.
Stuart Wellington
[41:28]
Can you have more Stuart on this show?
[41:30]
Signed, Stuart.
Dan McCoy
[41:31]
This says, Greetings, Floppers.
[41:33]
I was listening to the Earwolf Challenge podcast.
[41:36]
When, to my pleasant surprise, I heard the dulcet tones of Dan McCoy.
[41:39]
He was apparently the guest on a podcast called Beginnings.
[41:43]
The Earwolf Challenge involves the reality television style voting off of one of ten podcast entries
[41:48]
each week based on a challenge that they were given.
[41:51]
This week's challenge was about the best introduction, a seemingly important challenge.
[41:55]
Always lead on a strong foot, people say.
[41:57]
Beginnings led with the strong foot of Dan McCoy doing his patented silly voices.
[42:02]
Well, but.
[42:03]
Floating as Anne, and needless to say, Beginnings was crushed immediately and without mercy,
[42:07]
along with the judges pointing out how confident they were that this was the perfect choice for expulsion.
[42:12]
Oh.
[42:12]
This amused me to no end that Dan lost a contest he didn't enter.
[42:16]
This crushing defeat is sure to elicit a mournful sigh from Dan.
Elliott Kalan
[42:19]
It's just another moment from Dan's Charlie Brown-esque life.
Dan McCoy
[42:24]
P.S. This email seems harsh.
[42:25]
I just wanted to let you know that the Floppers is great and Earwolf Challenge is not, so keep it up.
[42:28]
This blow to Dan was probably just some nefarious plot by their sister podcast, How Did This Get Made?
[42:34]
And I, by delivering this news, was merely a pawn in this great game between podcast rivals.
Elliott Kalan
[42:39]
Ah, the great game, yes.
Dan McCoy
[42:40]
Um, well, you know, this is the beginnings podcast.
[42:43]
Yeah, I thought something was up with.
[42:43]
You were also on this podcast in the past.
Stuart Wellington
[42:46]
I thought something was up with Dan.
[42:48]
He seemed kind of down.
Elliott Kalan
[42:49]
Yeah, that's...
[42:50]
Unlike normal, Dan seemed like he was sighing a lot, drinking.
[42:54]
Sure.
[42:54]
Didn't have that joie de vivre that we know Dan to have.
[42:57]
It's all because of this email.
[42:59]
Yeah.
[42:59]
Uh, beginnings is a nice podcast, a good podcast, run by a couple of very good guys about people,
[43:06]
like comedians, how they got their start, I guess.
[43:08]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[43:08]
Mark, Mark, uh, Bissy, or Bissy, I don't know how to say his last name.
[43:12]
I just know how to write it.
[43:13]
And Andrew Beckerman.
[43:14]
Good guys.
[43:15]
Good podcast.
[43:16]
I'll tell you something.
[43:17]
The Earwolf Challenge is a run...
[43:19]
I've never heard of that.
[43:20]
I don't know what it is.
[43:21]
Uh, Earwolf is, uh, Scott Aukerman's, um, podcast Empire.
[43:25]
He started off with comedy Death Ray, now comedy Bang Bang, and there's a lot of podcasts under
[43:30]
that, uh, title, including, uh, How Did This Get Made?
[43:34]
I'm so glad I don't pay attention to podcasts.
[43:36]
Yeah.
[43:36]
But, um...
[43:37]
I'll stick with comic books, a dying medium.
[43:38]
Well, here's what I have to say about this.
[43:39]
The Earwolf Challenge was, uh, run by one Matt Besser, and this is, this will not be
[43:44]
the first time Matt Besser has shit on something I was involved in, and, uh...
[43:49]
Was it on Saturday Night Rewritten?
[43:50]
Yeah.
[43:51]
And my, and my, my career has gone fine since then, and so will, uh, to the careers of the
[43:57]
Beginnings Podcast, uh, gentlemen.
Elliott Kalan
[43:58]
You're saying that losing this podcast contest was, is not...
[44:02]
Is not the worst thing that will ever...
[44:04]
It's not going to throw an obstacle into a career.
[44:06]
Yeah.
[44:06]
Oh, good.
[44:07]
Because I was worried that I lived in a world that was insane.
[44:11]
If losing a podcast contest...
[44:13]
Absurd.
[44:13]
Upside out.
[44:14]
If it's irreparably hard somebody's life...
[44:16]
Yeah.
[44:17]
...then I would probably get on a rocket ship to Mars tomorrow, or kill myself.
[44:23]
Um...
[44:24]
Luckily, taking a rocket ship to Mars would not kill you.
[44:27]
Oh, no.
[44:27]
I'd get superpowers of some kind.
[44:29]
You saw the Watchmen movie.
[44:30]
You go to Mars and you get superpowers.
[44:32]
Yeah.
[44:32]
That's what happens, right?
[44:34]
Wait, what?
[44:34]
And you may...
Dan McCoy
[44:35]
So I'm going to do one last, uh, email for now.
Elliott Kalan
[44:39]
So do we, how do we enter a podcast contest so we can win it?
[44:42]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[44:42]
We should pick something we're really good at, like throwing.
[44:44]
Well, we can't.
[44:44]
I mean...
[44:45]
You know, that doesn't have anything to do with being in a podcast, though.
Stuart Wellington
[44:49]
Yeah, but I mean...
[44:50]
I bet we're better at throwing stuff than other people who make podcasts.
[44:54]
Sure.
[44:54]
Except for, like, a shot put podcast.
Dan McCoy
[44:56]
Yeah.
[44:57]
I don't know if I'd be very good on a throwing team, though.
[44:59]
Okay, then what would you be good at?
Elliott Kalan
[45:01]
Well, yeah, what would you be?
[45:02]
Because you're the weak link, obviously.
Dan McCoy
[45:04]
I'll, uh...
[45:04]
I'll draw cartoons, and you can throw something.
[45:08]
Okay.
[45:08]
And Elliot will, uh...
[45:10]
So it's like a relay?
[45:11]
Tell us facts about U.S. history.
Elliott Kalan
[45:12]
There you go.
[45:12]
Okay.
[45:13]
So it's like a relay.
[45:13]
It's like a relay.
[45:14]
Yeah.
[45:15]
One of those throwing, drawing U.S. history contests.
[45:19]
Speaking of which, I was very unhappy because your wife pointed out to me that while I was
[45:23]
out of town, there was the relay race, the Battle of Brooklyn relay race in Brooklyn
[45:28]
to commemorate the largest battle of the Revolutionary War, which happened right in our backyard,
[45:32]
and I was out of town, so the three of us couldn't do it, because I know you guys wanted
[45:35]
to do a relay race with me.
Stuart Wellington
[45:37]
Well, I mean, I'd be okay at the race part.
Dan McCoy
[45:40]
I mean, of the three of us, but I do run.
[45:44]
I have run.
[45:45]
Of the three of us, I think they do.
[45:47]
Yeah, you run to go get...
[45:48]
Then I know a bunch about the Battle of Brooklyn.
[45:51]
It was August 27th, 1776.
Elliott Kalan
[45:54]
This is not a history test.
[45:56]
What was the weather like?
[45:57]
At the edge of what's now, I don't remember, at the edge of what's now Greenwood Cemetery,
[46:01]
a number of British soldiers were foraging for watermelons.
Dan McCoy
[46:04]
Listeners, write in.
[46:05]
This is getting pretty good.
[46:06]
Tell how little you're interested in talking about the Battle of Brooklyn.
[46:11]
The first American War.
[46:12]
Okay, so what's this last...
[46:13]
I'm going to do a final email before we get into our recommendations.
[46:16]
Final email.
[46:17]
Final email.
[46:18]
This is from John Last Name Withheld, and it's about the last episode.
Elliott Kalan
[46:23]
Is his last name Smith?
[46:25]
Because then I think it's an alias.
Dan McCoy
[46:26]
Yeah, it could be.
[46:27]
But this is about the Flophouse Bloopers and Practical Jokes episode.
Elliott Kalan
[46:30]
Not a lot of practical jokes in that episode.
[46:33]
Or Sergio Aragone's cartoons.
Dan McCoy
[46:35]
It's a shame.
[46:37]
If we could have gotten him, man, that would have been awesome.
[46:39]
I think we could have gotten him.
[46:41]
Let's look into it for next time, guys.
[46:43]
Get on that, Stuart.
[46:44]
He's probably working on Gru.
Elliott Kalan
[46:46]
He's probably working on Gru, yeah.
Dan McCoy
[46:49]
From that magazine.
[46:51]
So John says, my favorite part was when the radio background, no longer content with its current
[46:57]
level of distraction, decided to drop all pretense and just start playing air horns.
[47:02]
Example, around 1120.
[47:04]
So, yep, I listened to it, and that is accurate.
Elliott Kalan
[47:10]
So you're saying maybe this was a pirate broadcast that was just trying to get in the way.
Dan McCoy
[47:14]
I mean, you know, a lot of hits are putting air horns in nowadays.
[47:18]
Oh, yeah, kids love air horns.
[47:19]
The musical quality of an air horn.
[47:22]
Yeah, it's jarring.
[47:24]
It gets your attention.
[47:25]
It's got a nice tomber.
Elliott Kalan
[47:27]
Tomber?
[47:28]
What?
[47:28]
Yeah.
[47:29]
Yeah.
[47:30]
It's a timber.
[47:31]
No, not timber.
[47:31]
It's like when you cut a tree down.
[47:32]
When you talk about it.
[47:33]
Timber!
Dan McCoy
[47:34]
The tone, the musical tone is...
[47:36]
That's toneber.
[47:37]
Wait, tamber.
[47:38]
Tamber is actually...
[47:39]
Tambramblin, yeah.
[47:40]
Sorry.
[47:42]
So, um...
[47:43]
Starlet, Tambramblin.
[47:44]
So, what's next, guys?
[47:46]
I did it.
[47:47]
I did it before Stuart.
Elliott Kalan
[47:50]
I laughed you.
Stuart Wellington
[47:51]
Tell me the story about this battle of Brooklyn or something.
Elliott Kalan
[47:54]
This is a part...
[47:55]
A small skirmish between American guards and the British regulars.
[47:59]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[47:59]
This is the part of the podcast where we recommend...
Elliott Kalan
[48:02]
You're not even going to let me get to Lord Sterling's Maryland regiment and its sacrificial charge at the old stone house.
[48:07]
Maybe I'll fade you out.
Dan McCoy
[48:09]
You can...
[48:10]
At the end of the episode, you can...
[48:11]
All right.
[48:11]
It's an amazing story.
Elliott Kalan
[48:13]
Okay.
Dan McCoy
[48:13]
So, this is where we recommend something that we actually love for us.
[48:19]
In case you don't want to watch three hours of a story about a singing millionaire.
[48:24]
I don't know why you wouldn't.
[48:26]
But, uh...
[48:26]
What...
Elliott Kalan
[48:27]
What's something you may have seen?
[48:28]
He didn't...
[48:28]
Like, he barely spent money on anything in this movie.
[48:30]
It wasn't like...
[48:31]
You expect it to be like Arthur.
[48:32]
Yeah.
[48:33]
Or something like that.
[48:33]
Where the guy's just spending money stupidly on crazy things.
[48:36]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[48:36]
Like he's got a solid gold car.
[48:38]
Yeah.
[48:38]
Exactly.
[48:39]
Or a solid gold hat.
[48:41]
He plays tennis with a giant diamond or something.
[48:44]
A giant diamond.
Dan McCoy
[48:45]
Or solid gold hits.
Elliott Kalan
[48:47]
Yeah.
[48:48]
Because it's Quincy Jones.
[48:49]
Yeah.
[48:49]
He's the happiest millionaire.
Dan McCoy
[48:51]
He probably is.
[48:52]
I mean, you know, he got married to Peggy Lipton.
[48:55]
He's got all those hits.
[48:55]
Heir to the Lipton's Icy fortune.
[48:57]
Sure.
[48:59]
Stuart, anything you want to do?
[49:00]
His daughter is a successful actress.
[49:01]
Yeah.
[49:01]
Lovely woman in her own right.
[49:03]
Okay.
[49:03]
Don't get creepy.
[49:04]
What?
[49:05]
She's pretty.
[49:06]
Don't get creepy.
[49:06]
Stop.
[49:07]
She's physically, like you cannot object.
[49:09]
Do not bring her butt up.
Elliott Kalan
[49:11]
Okay?
Dan McCoy
[49:13]
Stuart, have you ever heard this before?
[49:15]
It's kind of fucking creepy, right?
Stuart Wellington
[49:16]
Of course.
Elliott Kalan
[49:17]
She's a lovely woman.
[49:18]
Can we taste the way we sit when we do this?
Dan McCoy
[49:20]
I want to be as far from Dan as possible.
[49:22]
And I don't want him to see my behalf.
[49:24]
I'm not making any lewd suggestions about her.
[49:26]
I'm just saying.
[49:27]
It's all in your countenance.
[49:28]
Objectively.
Stuart Wellington
[49:29]
It's in your countenance.
[49:30]
Yeah.
[49:30]
It's all lewd.
[49:31]
It's in your tombra or whatever you said.
[49:33]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[49:34]
Stuart, are you going to recommend something?
Stuart Wellington
[49:35]
I am going to recommend something, Dan.
[49:37]
First off, Steve.
[49:40]
You know the guy who wrote in?
[49:40]
You're going to recommend the name Steve.
[49:41]
No, no, no.
[49:42]
That guy, Steve, who wrote in.
[49:43]
I want to say you were right.
[49:46]
I Saw the Devil was great.
[49:47]
Thank you.
Dan McCoy
[49:48]
James was his actual name.
[49:50]
Steve was the name that you called him by.
[49:51]
You think everyone is named Steve?
[49:52]
No, it's okay.
[49:53]
All right.
[49:54]
So that was great.
[49:56]
Thank you.
Stuart Wellington
[49:56]
Thank you.
[49:57]
The movie I'm going to recommend is a movie called The Collector, which is...
[50:03]
The Terrence Stamp, that one?
[50:04]
No.
[50:05]
Wow.
[50:06]
The premise of this movie is that there's a character who's like a thief who's been casing
[50:12]
this nice, rich house.
[50:14]
And he ends up kind of having to break in when he thinks his family's gone.
[50:20]
Little does he know, there's also a serial killer has been casing this house.
[50:25]
And he, when the thief goes in to break in...
[50:27]
So it's a low concept movie is what you're saying.
[50:29]
It's like a life.
[50:30]
Yeah, yeah.
[50:31]
But it...
[50:31]
Cinema Verde.
[50:32]
It was cool to see.
[50:35]
It was cool how they made an attempt to actually spend some time on the geography of the house.
[50:40]
And it's also nice to see a movie where you have like this horrible, wacky serial killer
[50:45]
who's tracking somebody who actually is skilled at evasion and like not being heard.
[50:51]
So, and it's pretty gory and there's some gross stuff in there.
[50:55]
So if you like that stuff...
[50:56]
It's called The Collector.
[50:57]
The Collector.
[50:58]
Do you have to say that?
[50:59]
Rated R.
[50:59]
The Collector.
Elliott Kalan
[51:01]
Playing at...
[51:02]
Stuart's House.
[51:04]
Lowe's Union Square.
[51:06]
3-15.
[51:08]
4-15.
[51:09]
Regal Ewok.
[51:11]
Regal Ewok?
[51:12]
Like King of the Ewoks?
[51:13]
Yep.
[51:13]
Chief Jerba.
[51:16]
So now he's going to have CGI eyes.
[51:17]
So that'll be nice.
[51:19]
Elliot.
[51:19]
They'll probably be purple.
[51:20]
Are you going next?
[51:21]
Yeah, you go next.
[51:22]
I think I will recommend...
[51:24]
I haven't seen a lot of movies lately.
[51:27]
I was out of town for about a week and I didn't see any movies along that time.
[51:30]
But before I left, I finally watched Sugar Land Express, which I'd never seen before.
[51:36]
That's a good one.
[51:37]
And I really liked it a lot.
[51:38]
And it shows you a different direction Spielberg could have gone in if he hadn't become like
[51:43]
kind of this blockbuster director.
[51:45]
And I enjoyed it a lot.
[51:46]
And I've overlooked it for a long time because it's one of the forgotten movies in his filmography.
[51:51]
But it was really good.
Dan McCoy
[51:54]
And I went last because I too have been out of town and have not watched any movies.
[51:59]
And I don't really have any movies.
Elliott Kalan
[52:01]
So you desperately...
[52:02]
You thought I would give you another 30 seconds to buy time.
Dan McCoy
[52:04]
I saw Arthur on the Plane.
[52:07]
Speaking of Arthur, the Arthur remake.
[52:09]
Was that the sequel to Snakes on a Plane?
[52:11]
Arthur on a Plane?
[52:12]
Which...
[52:13]
I mean, that's a movie I would recommend watching on a plane.
[52:16]
Like, I don't think it was that great in general.
[52:18]
But there were some parts that were good.
[52:19]
Our buddy John Hodgman.
[52:21]
Not really our buddy, but someone that we've talked to.
[52:24]
Yeah, not my buddy.
[52:26]
Although he's a lovely man.
[52:27]
He's a very nice person.
[52:28]
He was very mean to me most of the time.
[52:31]
But he had a funny couple of scenes in it.
[52:33]
He showed up.
[52:34]
I was delighted to see that.
[52:35]
But I don't really have much to say.
[52:37]
I did watch...
[52:39]
I did go and see Avenue Q off-Broadway last night.
[52:41]
Is he going to recommend a movie?
Stuart Wellington
[52:44]
If you live in New York.
[52:45]
I want to recommend this joke my friend told me.
[52:47]
Like, you live in New York.
Elliott Kalan
[52:49]
I had a good sandwich the other day.
[52:51]
Maybe you should eat that.
[52:52]
Speaking of...
[52:53]
These shoes are comfortable.
Dan McCoy
[52:56]
Now, in lieu of a recommendation, I'd like to do a plug, actually, for a friend.
Elliott Kalan
[53:00]
Oh, I'll do a plug when you're done.
Dan McCoy
[53:02]
I went to see Avenue Q in part because my friend Rob Morrison,
[53:06]
who I used to be in a sketch group with,
[53:08]
is now in Avenue Q off-Broadway playing multiple characters.
[53:13]
And he also has a rock band called The Hollows.
[53:17]
And he put out an album recently, which was very good.
[53:21]
I bought it.
[53:22]
Google The Hollows.
[53:25]
Belong to the Earth, I believe is the name of the album.
[53:27]
And I would recommend it.
[53:29]
You can go to the website and listen to a couple of tracks.
[53:32]
See if you like it.
[53:33]
All right.
[53:35]
What, Ali?
[53:36]
You're rolling your eyes at me over there.
[53:37]
I didn't roll my eyes.
Elliott Kalan
[53:38]
I nodded my head in a condescending manner.
[53:40]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[53:40]
Yeah.
[53:41]
Completely different.
[53:42]
What did you want to plug?
Elliott Kalan
[53:43]
I want to plug my next movie screening.
[53:45]
Do it.
[53:45]
If this is up in time, it's going to be Wednesday, the 7th of September.
[53:48]
Yeah.
[53:48]
At 7.30 p.m. at 92 at Tribeca, I'm showing Shadow of a Doubt, one of my favorite movies of all time and my favorite Hitchcock movie.
[53:55]
And one that is not given the credit it deserves as his first masterpiece film, I think.
[54:01]
And comedian and Daily Show producer Rory Albanese will be joining us after the movie to talk about it.
[54:07]
He's never seen it, and we'll see what he thinks of it.
[54:10]
But it's a really great movie.
[54:11]
Yeah.
[54:12]
Joseph Cotton, Teresa Wright, Hume Cronin's film debut, Patricia Collins.
Dan McCoy
[54:17]
And Rory is very funny.
[54:19]
If you are a podcast listener, you would know him as The American from The Bugle Podcast.
Elliott Kalan
[54:24]
That's right.
[54:25]
He plays The American on The Bugle if you're a podcast listener.
[54:28]
Well, I'm not saying.
[54:29]
He's like a billion podcasts.
Dan McCoy
[54:30]
No, but I bet if you're – I'm saying that if you're listening to this, perhaps you're a fan of the venue, the medium of podcasting.
Elliott Kalan
[54:38]
But he does play The American on The Bugle.
Dan McCoy
[54:40]
So come on out to that.
[54:42]
In the meantime –
[54:43]
Please do.
[54:43]
It'll be fun.
[54:45]
So, Elliot, get ready to keep telling your story.
[54:48]
Okay.
[54:49]
Which I will then fade out.
[54:50]
But I've been Dan McCoy.
[54:51]
I've been Stuart Wellington.
Elliott Kalan
[54:53]
And this is the Battle of Brooklyn, August 27th, 1776.
[54:58]
America's forces have gathered in the borough of Brooklyn, then its own city.
[55:01]
I guess it was called Flatbush or whatever at the time.
Dan McCoy
[55:04]
The British soldiers are advancing.
Stuart Wellington
[55:09]
I don't remember any of the songs.
Elliott Kalan
[55:11]
There was the one about no shillishallying, no dilly-dallying, doot-dot-deet-dot-doo.
Stuart Wellington
[55:17]
I'm going to go to China right now.
[55:19]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[55:20]
And the fortuosity, da-da-dee-da-da-dee-da-dee-da-dee-da-dee.
Stuart Wellington
[55:25]
Fortuosity.
[55:25]
You've got that fortuosity.
Dan McCoy
[55:27]
Now, again, you're singing The Bear's Necessities.
Elliott Kalan
[55:30]
There's that one about chim-chimmery, chim-chimmery, chim-chimmery, chim-chimmery,
[55:34]
chim-chimmery, chim-chimmery, chim-chimmery.
[55:35]
No.
[55:35]
No.
Dan McCoy
[55:36]
Mary Poppins.
[55:37]
No.
[55:37]
What about...
Stuart Wellington
[55:38]
Scooby-doo-bop-bop-boop-ba-doo-da-ba-doo.
Dan McCoy
[55:41]
That's just a scat version of In The Mood.
Stuart Wellington
[55:46]
Scooby-doo-bop.
[55:47]
Boo-boo-boo-boo-boo-boo.
[55:49]
Burner.
Dan McCoy
[55:50]
That's the night court theme.
Description
0:00 - 0:34 - Introduction and theme.0:35 - 4:17 - We discuss our recent technical difficulties.4:18 - 27:57 - You'd think there would be a lot to talk about in a three hour film, wouldn't you? You would be wrong.27:58 - 33:00 - We summarily dispense with final judgments, to discuss Stuart's SURPRISE GIFT to Dan and Elliott33:31 - 47:45 - Flop House Movie Mailbag47:46 - 54:44 - The sad bastards recommend / plug.54:45 - 55:52 - Goodbyes, theme, and outtakes.
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