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The Flop House: Episode #98 - In Time
Transcript
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We discuss the movie that doesn't understand either how time or money works in time
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Hey everyone and welcome to the Flophouse. I'm Dan McCoy. I'm Stuart Wellington. I'm Elliot Kalin.
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Yes, we're all back. Sorry about the little bit of time off. Yeah, there's a delay.
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Yeah, sorry about taking time off. I guess it's been a matter of time since our last timecast.
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Did you have a stroke? I don't understand why you keep emphasizing it. It's a timecast.
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I had a time. I don't, I mean, that wasn't even, you just said I had a time. That's not a...
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Time. Okay. So yeah, it's been a while since we've done one of these.
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A lot of time, perhaps? Yeah, I'd probably say that.
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Would you? I mean, not right now. I'd feel kind of weird.
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Weird about how much time it's been? Yeah, maybe.
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Dan, that recipe you were telling me about, how much time do I need for that?
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A couple of tablespoons of time. And how much time should I leave it in the oven for?
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Two hours of time. Okay, thank you.
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Two hours units of time. We watched a movie called In Time.
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Did you want to talk about any other stuff before we got to the movie? No, no.
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Okay. Apparently not. Would you say it was a timely selection?
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I would not. Why? Because we're experiencing time right now?
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Because it speaks to the human condition right now? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It speaks to the human condition. It's all about the Occupy movement.
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Not really. Aren't they about the government taking all the time away from...
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They're about the redistribution of time to the people.
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This is about a dystopian future. Oh, is it ever dystopian?
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If you want to know what kind of topia it is, the answer is dis.
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Don't file this one under utopia. That would be the wrong type of topia.
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This topia type is dystopia.
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So there's been a lot of repeating things in this podcast so far.
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If you're trying to sculpt your bushes in your garden to make it dystopiary,
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this would be the kind of topia to copy.
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All right, well, what happened in this movie?
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Dis. Guys. What did happen?
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Yeah. Well, Dan. That's what you do.
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Oh, okay. What? You mean the plot summaries?
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So, yeah, I'm going to bounce the ball and then pass it over to you.
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Okay, I'm holding this imaginary ball.
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That's the podcast ball.
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You should see it, listeners. They are actually miming this.
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It's good improv object work.
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It's called object work.
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Well, it's just like when you had ventriloquists on the radio.
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They still used the dummy and everything.
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We're still miming the time ball.
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Yeah, it adds something to the performance.
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I said podcast ball.
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I mean, listeners can sense it.
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It'll be time ball later.
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Time ball.
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That's the sequel to In Time.
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It's also a sequel to Rollerball.
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That's the weird thing.
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It's a double sequel.
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It's just like that mash-em-up that I wanted to do called Terminator 4 Short Circuit 3.
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Yep. What was that going to be called?
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That's the name.
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Okay.
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Terminator 4 slash Short Circuit 3.
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Okay.
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So it's like there's sex in it or –
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What?
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Well, because you said slash.
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No, no, no.
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I was just telling you the punctuation, like face slash off.
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Okay.
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The hit film starring John Travolta and Nicholas Mage.
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But don't they have sex in that movie?
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No, they don't.
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I think I watched the wrong movie.
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I think you do.
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Anyway, In Time takes place in a dystopian future.
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I guess or maybe a parallel universe.
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It's got to be.
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We see a map every once in a while up on a computer screen.
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And it does not look like America that we know and love.
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But also they all drive 70s muscle cars, guys dress kind of like it's the 50s sometimes and sometimes like it's the 90s.
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I guess what I'm saying is it's very lazy art direction.
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And the poor people just wear a little bit fewer suits than the rich people.
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Yeah, the poor – the people who are – I'm putting this in quotes, poor and who live in the ghetto because they call it that a lot, all wear like – they dress like hipsters.
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Like they wear V-neck sweaters and like Adidas sneakers and things like that and Cora Roy pants.
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They're 25 years old.
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Unless they're criminals, then they dress like mod gangsters.
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Yeah, or like backup –
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They're going to break into a dance.
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Like backup dancers from a stage production of Chicago.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, so in time posits a dystopian world where instead of money – get this.
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It's okay.
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In real life, let me explain what money is.
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We use money as a way to exchange credit or value for goods and services.
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And you're rich the more money you have and it allows you to buy things.
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Guys, I'm going to blow you guys' mind.
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Money has no inherent value.
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It only has the value that we place on it.
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All right, college sophomore.
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Let's – everyone knows money does have inherent value.
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God said so in the Bible.
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Anyway, so in this world though, instead of money, guess what they use for money?
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I can't.
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I can't possibly guess.
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I'll give you a hint.
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It's in the title.
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That's right.
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The quality of being inside or surrounded by something.
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So like if you want to buy something, you go into a room.
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That's what was going on.
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Yeah, yeah, and if you want to like make an insurance payment, you have to put it in an envelope.
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Is that why they had numbers on their arms?
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Oh, the numbers.
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That's for a different reason.
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No, they use time as –
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It's a sex thing.
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Yeah, it's a numbers on your arm fetish.
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They use time as money in this.
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Now, in this world, people have somehow been genetically bred to – you got a timer readout on your arm that glows green.
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So you can see it in the dark and you – at the age of 25, you stop aging.
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You're 25 physically forever.
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But then you get one hour left of life.
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And that time can be bought or sold or accumulated, and then you live forever if you have the time.
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But if you don't, you die as soon as your time runs out, and you spend time on everything, rent, food, coffee, clothes.
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Just like you'd spend money, right?
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Just like you'd spend money.
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Without inherent value.
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It's like if every time you spent a dollar, you lost a minute off your life.
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Okay.
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Now, get this.
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In this radically different world where spending time literally means you live less, guess what amazing social changes this has created?
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I imagine that people are really living their life to the fullest, like they're cutting down just the bare necessities of life.
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Nope, nope, almost none.
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Everyone lives almost exactly the same except the very rich sit around in their marble houses and don't do very much,
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and the very poor go to jobs in factories and pay their rent and dress like hipsters.
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And sometimes they stand around in mobs that don't really accomplish anything.
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They spent – for people who – and the word time is used maybe a thousand million billion times in this movie.
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For people who are constantly griping about how little time they have left, they spend a lot of time milling around.
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Like a lot of time just standing around complaining about things.
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It'd be one thing if like they had this crazy riot where they revolted and attacked people.
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But no, like their riot is a bunch of guys standing around.
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Just kind of looking.
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Yeah.
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And if you run out of time and you die, your body just falls down in the gutter and they just leave you there.
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So there's a lot of times when someone – like Justin Timberlake, the star of the film.
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I forgot to – I haven't actually mentioned the plot.
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J-Time.
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J-Time.
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I've only – they should have called this movie Justin Time.
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That would have been fantastic.
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But I haven't even mentioned the plot.
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That's just the setting.
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But Justin Timberlake is going to work at his job making time bricks, and he is – he just –
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There's no other commodities.
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Well, that's the way you transfer time.
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It's in a time brick.
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They look like old like data cassettes or something, right?
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Yeah, they look like big pieces of – little pieces of metal.
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They look like a Betamax.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Or like a – no, more like an 8-track.
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Yeah.
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Like a silver 8-track.
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The fabled silver 8-track.
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If you find it, then you get a magical tour to Willy Wonka's 8-track factory.
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I thought that was just if you had a hit record but not like a huge hit in the 70s.
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You get a silver 8-track.
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Yeah.
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That's if you sell your song a million times just over CB radio, a silver 8-track.
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Like Disco Duck, got a silver 8-track.
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Disco Duck actually is now the Affleck Duck.
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Oh, wow.
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Fitzgerald said American lives have no second act.
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But in the case of Disco Duck, he is mistaken, who is now the Affleck Duck.
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But anyway, so Justin Timberlake is going to work –
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He spent a little time in Duckburg before that.
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Justin Timberlake –
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Yeah, what was he doing there?
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He killed Scrooge McDuck in his money time vault.
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Sure. Okay.
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So in example, if this was Duck Tales, Uncle Scrooge would have a time vault and he would go swimming in time.
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And instead of his number one dime, he would have his number one minute.
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Yeah, I guess in like a little time break.
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But so Justin Timberlake is going to work at the time factory and he looks down and there's just someone dead lying on the ground.
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No one is phased by this.
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No one cleans it up.
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No one does anything.
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It's just, well, we live in a world where 25-year-olds are just dropping dead on the ground.
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Well, there's like street sweepers that come up in like early in the morning.
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Time sweepers.
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So here's the plot, shall we?
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Justin Timberlake is just your average Joe or in this case, average Justin.
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He works at a time break factory.
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His girlfriend, Olivia Wilde, doesn't have enough time.
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They don't have enough time.
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They're always late on the time bills.
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They're going to die soon probably.
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He's in a bar with –
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They're living day-to-day literally.
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Okay.
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Sure.
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Yeah. Okay. Thanks.
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Step by step.
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Lost my train of thought but worth it.
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He's hanging out in the bar with the guy from Big Bang Theory.
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He's also Darlene's boyfriend.
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He's hanging out in the bar with Darlene's boyfriend from Roseanne.
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You may know him as Big Bang Theory number two.
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And this guy walks in with like 100 years' worth of time on his arm and he just keeps going.
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He looks like the guy from White Collar.
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And he's just going, I'll buy one for everybody.
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I'll buy a round for everybody.
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Timberlake's like, hey man, if you don't watch it,
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you're gonna get beaten up.
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There's a gang called the Minutemen
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who kill people and steal their time.
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Yeah, they sound pretty scary.
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They're not, don't worry.
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They're led by an English guy
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and one of the guys wears a hat.
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That's pretty much the Minutemen.
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I mean, they're snappy dresses, though.
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That indicates that.
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Yeah, they walked out of Quadrophenia.
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It's like they walked right out of a Gap ad.
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Quadrophenia, yeah.
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Not, and not the rocker part of Quadrophenia.
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The mod part of Quadrophenia.
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So anyway, Justin Timberlake's like,
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hey man, stop throwing your time around.
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You're gonna get beat up for your time.
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And then this Minutemen group comes in.
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They're gonna steal from-
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Almost like a gypsy, he predicts the future.
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Yes, and he puts a thinner curse on someone.
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Because it's time, he says, slower, slower.
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It'd be better, though, yeah.
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Oh, I mean, faster, faster.
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Anywho-
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Fester?
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Yeah, Uncle Fester.
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He's in this?
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I wish.
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How much better would this have been
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if Christopher Lloyd was just running around,
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just doing whatever?
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We've got to get more time!
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The piranhas!
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He's always-
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The Libyans!
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The Time Libyans!
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Marty!
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No, no, my name is Justin Timberlake.
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Marty!
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Anyway, time.
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He saves the life of this guy who was 100 years.
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They hang out in a loft space for a while,
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and the 100-year guy gives Justin Timberlake his time
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and then commits suicide.
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And Justin Timberlake decides he's gonna use this time.
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He's gonna go into the rich zones
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because society's split up into geographic zones
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and it costs time, like a toll, to get between zones.
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You skip over a very important point,
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which is that Olivia Wilde-
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Oh, yeah, I forgot, his girlfriend.
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His girlfriend can't make it to meet Justin
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because the rates on the buses have gone up.
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Yeah, the 100-
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Two hours.
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The 100-year-old man tells Justin Timberlake
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that after a hilarious question and answer session,
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100-year-old man, you know,
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classic Mel Brooks car rider bit,
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he tells him the people in charge control the system
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and keep everyone down,
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and they always raise the rates on everything
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as soon as people get more time, I guess.
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They're constantly raising the rates on things
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so that people have to work harder, and we've seen this.
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The price of coffee-
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Trying to create this time incumbency.
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Yes, time incumbency.
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Someone's been watching The Daily Show a couple times.
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They raise the price of coffee
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from three minutes to four minutes,
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and they raise the cost of the bus
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from one hour to two hours.
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That's a significant increase.
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That is 100%.
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100% increase.
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And Olivia Wilde was-
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It's too much.
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She was cutting it a bit close, but I gotta say-
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She had an hour and a half left on her arm.
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So even if she got on the bus, like-
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If there's bad traffic.
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Yeah, let's say minimum 15-minute bus ride.
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She's got 15 minutes left in her life.
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What's she planning on doing?
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I guess just hanging out, milling around,
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looking at things.
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Enjoying her last 15 minutes.
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Yeah, I think maybe JT was showing up
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with a little extra time for her, but-
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Well, JT, it was her birthday.
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He was showing up with flowers,
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but he had 100 years on him.
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He could have given her more time,
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but she didn't know-
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If only she had given her-
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I'm just wondering what the original plan was.
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If only she had given her-
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Oh, it was a poorly thought-out plan.
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Look, there's a reason they're at the bottom.
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They don't deserve to be rich.
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They don't think ahead.
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They're not educated.
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Anyway, point is, she can't take the bus,
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so they have to run towards each other.
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And she runs out of time just too late.
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She's dealing with a bus driver
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who does not let her get on the bus,
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despite the fact that he knows
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that he's condemning her to a death sentence.
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Yes.
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Yeah, well-
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Look, it's the pressure of society.
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That's the only thing that bus driver
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has ever known, Stuart.
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Oh, okay.
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So I can't blame him.
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It's society that's sick.
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Yeah, you're talking about cultural equivalence,
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and that's just not fair.
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I mean, can I blame the guy who invented
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the green time arm tattoo thing?
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Oh, John Time?
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Yes, you can blame him,
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but he's been dead for thousands of years.
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Okay, why didn't he just give himself a million years?
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He thought it wouldn't be fair.
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No one knows.
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Actually, what happened is he got hit by a car.
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He gave himself a thousand million years,
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and then he got hit by a car.
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Yeah, ironic.
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And that's the thing in this movie,
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is everyone's like,
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oh, we all know exactly how long we're gonna live,
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but there are a ton of-
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You can still die from natural causes.
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Well, people die of freak accidents all the time,
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or things like hit by cars,
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you fall off a building,
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someone shoots you,
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a shark bites you,
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maybe a porcupine bomb blows up,
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and the quills shoot.
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Don't just kill you,
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but the quills go out and shoot everybody.
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Maybe someone throws a bob bomb at you.
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You got a couple seconds to throw it away
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before it blows up,
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but you know, a shy guy walks up to you,
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a Goomba, maybe a Koopa Troopa.
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Yeah, you gotta keep a parachute on.
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You gotta look up in the skies.
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There's a guy just throwing spike balls at you.
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You gotta jump a bullet with a face on it.
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I don't know what those are called.
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A Bob the Bullet, I believe.
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Who are those Hammer Brothers that throw hammers at you?
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They're called the Hammer Brothers.
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Uh, I don't know if they're real names.
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You know those brothers who throw hammers?
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I'd call them Hammer Brothers.
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You got piranha plants.
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You got fireballs.
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You got Koopa himself.
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You can just fall down a hole.
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Maybe Yoshi eats you.
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He thinks you're an apple.
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These are all things that could happen to you.
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To you in real life.
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Average citizen.
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To you, the listener.
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Yeah.
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But not if you have a Tanooki suit.
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Then you got a little extra.
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That's, don't be too complacent.
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The Tanooki suit won't save you all the time.
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So you turn into a statue for like two seconds.
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And I mean, girls like it.
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Oh, they love it.
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Yeah, they go apeshit for that.
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Yeah, it's super cute
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and it comes with a little tail and little ears.
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It's like wearing a Japanese hat.
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Anyway, so.
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What were we talking about?
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I don't remember.
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Oh, Olivia Wilde dies.
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Olivia Wilde dies in his arms.
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Which gives JT some avenging fury.
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Yeah, now just him has nothing to lose.
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So he goes through the different zones
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to the rich person's zone.
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And starts setting himself up in style.
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He goes to a rich person's casino
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and he meets Pete Campbell from Mad Men.
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Who is.
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Probably not a bad guy.
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Who is, I always, he's just like,
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I guess I assume the worst,
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like the guy who runs everything.
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They don't quite come out and say it.
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But he's.
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He's King Koopa.
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Well, he's a big time like banker.
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Like he's.
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Time banker.
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He is a big time banker.
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Yes, he is a time banker.
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He runs like time credit.
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Yeah, organizations.
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That's true, his name is Weiss
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because of course the movie kind of implies
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that the Jews are behind the banking.
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And no one's more Jewish than Pete Campbell.
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And yeah, you're right.
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He runs a chain of like time lending banks
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with a very steep rates, very steep.
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And of course he is.
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Like 30%.
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25 years old too.
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I mean, like he's got the,
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he's got daughters that are his age.
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Yeah, they throw in a good bit
[16:21]
where they show his mother-in-law, his wife,
[16:24]
and then his daughter,
[16:25]
and they're all the same age,
[16:25]
except Amanda Seyfried,
[16:27]
his daughter dresses like she's like four years old.
[16:30]
Yeah, she's always wearing like party dresses.
[16:33]
Like she dresses like Nancy basically, or like.
[16:36]
Or like a little doll.
[16:38]
Yeah.
[16:39]
She's dressing for the Bonnie part
[16:42]
and the Bonnie and Clyde that they're going to become.
[16:44]
She looks more like she's dressing
[16:46]
for the Angelica part in Rugrats.
[16:48]
Okay.
[16:50]
Let's say that.
[16:51]
Yeah, that's a good reference.
[16:51]
Or Elmira from Tiny Toons.
[16:54]
Is that her name?
[16:55]
Sure.
[16:56]
I mean.
[16:57]
Either of those work.
[16:59]
She has Amanda Seyfried's body though.
[17:00]
That should not be overlooked.
[17:02]
Yeah, like Elmira from Tiny Toons.
[17:04]
Okay.
[17:05]
Now it got weird.
[17:06]
No, she does.
[17:07]
Anyway, it's Slammin'.
[17:08]
But moving on.
[17:09]
She goes.
[17:11]
It's the Slammin' Salmon.
[17:14]
The Slammin' Salmon?
[17:15]
I don't know.
[17:15]
No, not at all.
[17:17]
It's Broken Lizard's breath.
[17:19]
No, please.
[17:21]
It's at the very least her body is super troopers.
[17:24]
Okay.
[17:25]
But it's way better than that.
[17:26]
Anyway, he meets Pete Campbell
[17:28]
who's a big rich muckety muck.
[17:29]
His daughter, Pete Campbell's daughter is Amanda Seyfried.
[17:31]
Sure.
[17:32]
And Justin Timberlake and Pete Campbell
[17:33]
in a high stakes game of Texas Hold'em.
[17:36]
Yeah.
[17:37]
Roughly a hundred years in the future,
[17:39]
Texas Hold'em is still the hottest shit in the world.
[17:42]
Yeah.
[17:43]
I think maybe it just came back around.
[17:44]
It's a retro craze.
[17:45]
It's a retro craze, yeah.
[17:47]
The same way that hitting that big hoop with a stick
[17:51]
is such a big thing right now.
[17:52]
Yeah.
[17:53]
And wearing barrels around.
[17:54]
Yeah.
[17:56]
Past times come back every hundred years or so.
[17:59]
So Timberlake and Pete Campbell have a poker game.
[18:05]
Timberlake wins like a thousand years.
[18:07]
Now he's super rich.
[18:08]
And Dan spent a ridiculous amount of time
[18:11]
trying to work out the exchange rate.
[18:13]
Between time and hour dollars.
[18:14]
I think I figured it out.
[18:15]
I mean, I don't think in the context of the movie,
[18:17]
no amount of time is ridiculous.
[18:19]
All right.
[18:20]
So, I mean, there's like two months paid
[18:23]
for like a nice, but not great hotel room
[18:27]
in like the fanciest part of town.
[18:30]
But he also had a meal that cost him eight and a half weeks.
[18:33]
I don't know.
[18:34]
But like the two months, that's over.
[18:36]
I mean, like it was a really nice meal
[18:37]
like that it could cost more than a-
[18:39]
That restaurant was not like John George quality.
[18:42]
All right.
[18:43]
But my point is-
[18:43]
He wasn't that per se.
[18:44]
Let's say then-
[18:45]
Now that we've mentioned them,
[18:46]
they have to give us free stuff, right?
[18:47]
Right, yes.
[18:48]
Because we're so well-listened to.
[18:50]
No, but let's say then that two months is $400.
[18:54]
So that makes like a year's worth of time
[18:57]
is about $2,500 at that point.
[19:00]
You know, like, so to have like a hundred years,
[19:05]
you know, all right, you're talking about $250,000 there.
[19:09]
That's a lot of money.
[19:10]
It's a lot of money.
[19:12]
We're all rich television writers.
[19:13]
But if that's all that you have for all of your life,
[19:15]
like that is like one year salary of like a well-off person.
[19:19]
It's not, you know-
[19:20]
It's 1%, Dan, a 1%-er.
[19:23]
Yeah, but like a rich person,
[19:24]
but that's one year of their salary.
[19:25]
There's not like they're set for life
[19:26]
after they have 100 years on their time arm.
[19:29]
And keep in mind that like you're also using that time
[19:32]
at a regular rate as well.
[19:34]
That's true.
[19:34]
You also use up money by just living,
[19:37]
by just experiencing time.
[19:38]
That's a good point.
[19:39]
And one that's not really-
[19:41]
which is really the phrase
[19:43]
that was the inspiration for this.
[19:45]
Someone was like, he was stoned.
[19:46]
He's like, what if time was money?
[19:48]
Yeah, someone said, time is money.
[19:49]
And he went, whoa, what if it was?
[19:53]
Get me my pen.
[19:54]
He writes everything out in longhand.
[19:56]
So anyway-
[19:57]
And then he wrote this script in an evening.
[19:59]
Yes.
[20:00]
So Jimbo –
[20:01]
Because this is a world where time is money but they don't actually seem to do anything
[20:05]
ever really.
[20:06]
Well, that's because the rich people are afraid of getting hurt and the poor people
[20:09]
are just –
[20:10]
And the heroes are afraid of taking action because it would use up screen monies.
[20:13]
Well, because you do have time cops called time keepers.
[20:16]
Okay.
[20:17]
Here, the main one is Cillian Murphy who you may know as Scarecrow from Batman Begins.
[20:21]
He looks 25.
[20:22]
And Scarecrow from Scarecrow and Mrs. King.
[20:24]
And Scarecrow from –
[20:25]
The Wizard of Oz.
[20:26]
The Wizard of Oz, yes.
[20:27]
The Wizard of Oz, yes.
[20:28]
And what's that movie?
[20:29]
And the Crow.
[20:30]
Jeepers Creepers.
[20:31]
What's that movie with Al Pacino and Gene Hackman?
[20:32]
Oh, yes.
[20:33]
Scarecrow.
[20:34]
Oh, it's just called Scarecrow.
[20:35]
Yes.
[20:36]
It's called Scarecrow.
[20:37]
Yes.
[20:38]
Anyway.
[20:39]
So Cillian Murphy from some of those movies is –
[20:40]
Jeepers Creepers.
[20:41]
Yes.
[20:42]
Is a time keeper which means he's like a cop who enforces the time laws.
[20:47]
So you can't – the poor stay poor because –
[20:49]
What's the first law of the time laws?
[20:51]
Is you don't talk about time laws.
[20:52]
Okay.
[20:53]
Second law of time laws, also you don't talk about time laws.
[20:57]
And the last law is if it's your first time, you have to time.
[21:00]
All right.
[21:02]
Well, so Cillian Murphy is on this guy's tail, right?
[21:06]
He's on this guy's tail chasing him because they have identified him as possessing a bunch
[21:11]
of time.
[21:12]
They don't know how he got it.
[21:13]
And Jay Time has, by this point, kidnapped Amanda Seyfried and she's –
[21:17]
Well, we haven't gotten to that point.
[21:18]
Maybe he's kidnapped her heart.
[21:20]
Yes.
[21:21]
Well –
[21:22]
He goes to a big party at Pete Campbell's house.
[21:24]
Cillian Murphy comes in and takes away Jay Time's 1,000 years, leaves him with only
[21:27]
two hours.
[21:28]
And so Jay Time takes Amanda Seyfried who he's already gone skinny dipping with hostage.
[21:33]
Suddenly –
[21:34]
Two days at most after his girlfriend's death by the way.
[21:38]
This is Amanda Seyfried we're talking about.
[21:41]
He's powered by vengeance and she's the slamming salmon.
[21:43]
I mean what's the – what don't you get?
[21:45]
Like if it comes down to Amanda Seyfried versus Olivia Wilde, sure.
[21:49]
I prefer Amanda Seyfried but we're led to believe that Justin Timberlake had some serious
[21:54]
feelings for this woman who died in his arms.
[21:57]
Like I really enjoy this hamburger but if this delicious steak is placed in front of
[22:00]
me, I'll forget I ever had a hamburger.
[22:03]
OK.
[22:04]
I guess when you're using up your life minute by minute, there's no time to mourn the dead.
[22:10]
No.
[22:11]
There's no time to mourn.
[22:12]
Anyway, they're on the run.
[22:13]
Did you see what he just did there?
[22:14]
Yeah, I do.
[22:15]
OK.
[22:16]
They get –
[22:17]
I wish he didn't.
[22:19]
They are – there's a – there's the first of about a billion car chases that are
[22:23]
not very good.
[22:25]
They get into a car accident.
[22:26]
Some Minutemen come along and take Amanda Seyfried's time.
[22:29]
Now they've only got like a couple minutes between them.
[22:31]
Yeah, they're broke again.
[22:32]
And the rest of the movie is basically them on the lam.
[22:34]
They decide to start robbing time banks and giving out time like a couple of robin times.
[22:38]
Like natural born killers.
[22:39]
They become –
[22:40]
Natural born timers or time hoods.
[22:41]
As you said, time bandits.
[22:42]
They become time bandits which should have been the title of the movie because it would
[22:45]
have made me angry and then I would have felt something about this movie.
[22:49]
They become a bunch of time bandits and it would be awesome if they became dwarves at
[22:52]
that point.
[22:54]
But they're just going around stealing time from people and giving it out to the masses
[22:57]
and this is going to totally destabilize the system.
[23:00]
Would they be like super deformed dwarves or like Lord of the Rings dwarves?
[23:05]
You mean hobbits?
[23:06]
No, like with beards and shit.
[23:09]
Wait.
[23:10]
They might have beards.
[23:11]
I don't know why they wouldn't.
[23:12]
Or would they be like super deformed like anime characters?
[23:14]
What do you mean with – oh, they'd be like that with the huge heads and the huge
[23:17]
eyes.
[23:18]
Well, Seyfried would be an anime character.
[23:19]
She already pretty much is an anime character.
[23:20]
Yeah.
[23:21]
If Amanda Seyfried reminds me of anything, it's the hologram bride of that one character
[23:26]
in Archer.
[23:27]
Krieger.
[23:28]
Yeah, Krieger.
[23:29]
Yeah, I can see that.
[23:30]
I'm not familiar.
[23:31]
You should watch that show.
[23:32]
It's a good show.
[23:33]
He's an animated Japanese bride character.
[23:34]
I gathered.
[23:35]
Krieger, the scientist.
[23:36]
Thank you.
[23:37]
Thanks, Stuart, for backing me up on that one.
[23:38]
No, no.
[23:39]
I was just giving you some support.
[23:40]
Always time for that.
[23:41]
Time?
[23:42]
Anyway, so they're on their Robin Hood spree.
[23:43]
The cops are after him.
[23:44]
Pete Campbell is after him, and it just kind of keeps going like that until –
[23:45]
And then they do a turnaround, and then they go after Pete Campbell, and now they take
[23:46]
his millions.
[23:47]
They take his million, which, again, I worked out.
[23:48]
It's one million years.
[23:49]
It's a couple trillion dollars' worth of time.
[23:50]
It's one time break.
[23:51]
I don't think that that's enough to destroy the world time economy.
[23:52]
Maybe it is.
[23:53]
Maybe it is.
[23:54]
Maybe it's not.
[23:55]
Maybe it's not.
[23:56]
Maybe it's not.
[23:57]
Maybe it's not.
[23:58]
Maybe it's not.
[23:59]
Maybe it's not.
[24:00]
Maybe it's not.
[24:01]
Maybe it's not.
[24:02]
Maybe it's not.
[24:03]
Maybe it's not.
[24:04]
Maybe it's not.
[24:12]
destroying the time economy of that city, I guess.
[24:14]
Which is America.
[24:15]
Yeah.
[24:16]
That's the other thing is, America in this world, wherever this place is, seems to consist
[24:20]
of two cities.
[24:21]
Well, maybe it's so far in the future that continental drift has changed the shape of
[24:24]
everything again.
[24:25]
I see.
[24:26]
So it's tiny.
[24:27]
It's a new Pangea.
[24:28]
Yeah.
[24:29]
Yeah.
[24:30]
Or Nangea.
[24:31]
Timegea, sure.
[24:32]
Pangea time.
[24:33]
There's two cities.
[24:34]
There's –
[24:35]
Super deformed.
[24:36]
Definitely.
[24:37]
There's New Greenwich, which is where all the rich people live, because I assume the
[24:40]
cities of Greenwich and Old Greenwich were both atom bombed, probably in the bad days
[24:45]
or the cataclysm.
[24:46]
Yeah.
[24:47]
Whatever they call it.
[24:48]
And get it, guys.
[24:49]
Get it.
[24:50]
Greenwich mean time.
[24:51]
Huh?
[24:52]
Pretty clever, huh?
[24:53]
Yeah.
[24:54]
All right.
[24:55]
Yeah.
[24:56]
I like it.
[24:57]
Greenwich.
[24:58]
And the bad people live – and the poor people live in Dayton.
[24:59]
Because day-ton.
[25:00]
Day-ton.
[25:01]
Day-ton.
[25:02]
I like it.
[25:03]
What I'm saying is it's a well-written movie.
[25:06]
Also, apparently –
[25:07]
I was saying it's subtle.
[25:08]
It's a subtle bite.
[25:10]
These are really well-delineated ghetto to –
[25:15]
Really well Dana-delineated?
[25:16]
Well, just the different classes are very carefully shunted into their different areas.
[25:23]
I guess there's no gentrification or anything.
[25:25]
Not at all.
[25:26]
Or people living with other people of different classes.
[25:28]
And as you point out, like are the servants bussed in from a different sector?
[25:32]
Terms of –
[25:33]
Sort of like for Greenwich?
[25:35]
Or are they like rich and they just serve as hotel clerks and waitresses on a whim?
[25:39]
Yeah, as a larp.
[25:40]
Is it like a co-op and everyone who lives there has to – like I'm a millionaire
[25:45]
today.
[25:46]
Yeah, but tomorrow I'm a janitor.
[25:47]
I don't understand.
[25:48]
It's a living.
[25:49]
Wait.
[25:50]
So they're dinosaur record players?
[25:51]
Is that what you're saying?
[25:52]
Well, someone has to do it.
[25:53]
So they decide to – they give – they pretend to give themselves in so that they
[25:59]
can get into the office of Pete Campbell.
[26:01]
Pete Campbell has a million-year time block.
[26:03]
They take it out and it gets released to the public.
[26:06]
Time destabilizes the system.
[26:08]
Like a virus.
[26:09]
There's a – and Killian Murphy is just obsessed with taking them down.
[26:12]
And there's a chase and Killian Murphy runs out of time and dies.
[26:18]
And Justin Timberlake and Amanda Seyfried just kind of –
[26:22]
So wait.
[26:23]
You're saying the showdown, the big chase where they finally come face-to-face with
[26:28]
their pursuer.
[26:29]
They've been face-to-face with them before.
[26:31]
But like the moment where it's like this is it.
[26:33]
This is the end of the movie.
[26:35]
Yeah.
[26:36]
The guy who's chasing them.
[26:37]
This is Nacre Timberlake.
[26:38]
The main antagonist.
[26:39]
All of a sudden just falls down dead after looking at his forearm.
[26:42]
He ran out of time.
[26:43]
Well, you're forgetting that the other big conflict was resolved basically with an arm
[26:47]
wrestling match.
[26:48]
With a very boring arm wrestling match that involves just – and earlier in the movie.
[26:53]
I mean arm wrestling can be pretty great.
[26:55]
Yeah, over the top.
[26:56]
Let's just say that.
[26:57]
It's a great movie.
[26:58]
Yeah.
[27:00]
It's no –
[27:01]
Say it now.
[27:02]
Yeah.
[27:03]
I mean, yeah.
[27:04]
I'll say it right now.
[27:05]
Over the top is great.
[27:06]
Oh, there you go.
[27:07]
Because you said you would say it.
[27:08]
Then you didn't say it.
[27:09]
Disappointing.
[27:10]
I mean if you're going to push me into it, I'll say it.
[27:11]
It seemed like your body was cashing – your ego was writing checks that your body couldn't
[27:14]
cash.
[27:15]
Yeah, my body and my mouth were both cashing those checks.
[27:18]
Your body was cashing checks that your toes didn't have money in the bank to pay for.
[27:22]
In the time bank.
[27:23]
So your ankles were on default and the bank sent the loan collectors to your butt.
[27:30]
Is that accurate?
[27:31]
Is that an accurate summary of the situation?
[27:32]
Is that a summary of the economic state of your body?
[27:36]
Economic.
[27:37]
Economic.
[27:38]
Ew.
[27:39]
Yeah, gross.
[27:40]
Super Grody, Dan.
[27:41]
Let's move on.
[27:42]
Super Grody Dan, the new superhero character.
[27:45]
These minute men, like they're angry at JT in the first place but then like society
[27:49]
becomes more destabilized and because Justin Timberlake is handing out free time, like
[27:57]
more people are getting hurt because these criminals are –
[27:59]
Because these minute men have more victims.
[28:00]
Yeah.
[28:01]
But there's a scene earlier where Justin – JTims shows ACs where how to win an arm
[28:06]
wrestling match which is that you just hold the other arm really tight and you force them
[28:09]
to look at your time.
[28:11]
Yeah.
[28:12]
You let it get down to the last few seconds.
[28:13]
You let your timer out.
[28:14]
Because here's the thing about time.
[28:15]
You can exchange it with people just by holding hands and both people –
[28:19]
Like Kang and Kodos exchanging those long protein strands.
[28:23]
Protein strands, yeah.
[28:24]
Or like – what are those mutants who have to be holding hands to shoot out laser blasts?
[28:30]
Yeah, I don't know.
[28:32]
You got me.
[28:33]
They showed up – Fenris?
[28:34]
Anyway.
[28:35]
They showed up during the trial of Magneto.
[28:37]
Anyway.
[28:38]
Sounds like pretty lame mutants.
[28:39]
Well, they're pretty powerful when they're holding hands.
[28:41]
Yeah, but that's pretty lame.
[28:42]
They're a brother and sister and they have to hold hands which is weird.
[28:45]
Like to hold hands with your grown sister.
[28:48]
Everyone else would be making fun of them.
[28:50]
Yeah, until they get laser blasted.
[28:52]
That's so funny then, holding hands.
[28:55]
But anyway, you keep your hand on the bottom so the other guy can see your clock.
[28:59]
You let your time run super low, like eight seconds left until you die.
[29:03]
At that point, he's going to take his eye away and look at your clock, and that's when you switch positions and start stealing his time.
[29:08]
It's called the switcheroonie.
[29:09]
Somehow you've got super strength just because he's distracted by looking at the clock.
[29:14]
When you run out of time, it gives you I guess a burst of energy.
[29:17]
Of course.
[29:18]
But you can take time from somebody without their permission.
[29:22]
It doesn't make sense how you get time from one person to another.
[29:26]
But Justin Timberlake uses this trick on the Minuteman leader, steals his time and shoots the henchman.
[29:32]
But it's like a minute of them just kind of like holding each other's arms and looking at each other.
[29:37]
That sounds like that must have been the big action sequence of the movie.
[29:40]
Kind of, yeah.
[29:41]
Kind of the climax.
[29:42]
There are a couple of action-y moments.
[29:44]
Where while sitting down, he shoots a couple of guys and then wins an arm wrestling match.
[29:48]
Yeah.
[29:49]
Come on, Stewart.
[29:50]
He wins an arm wrestling match, then shoots a couple of guys.
[29:53]
Oh, my mistake.
[29:54]
No, Stewart's right.
[29:55]
He's midway through winning.
[29:57]
He's midway through winning when he shoots those guys.
[30:00]
he's even distracted by the fact that he's arm wrestling
[30:04]
well that's how good he is at time wrestling. They meet up with Killian Murphy
[30:07]
Chrono wrestling
[30:08]
yeah chrono wrestling
[30:10]
they meet up with Killian Murphy
[30:13]
Killian Murphy dies of time disease
[30:15]
uh... not having any
[30:16]
and
[30:17]
the two of them
[30:18]
it looks like you're a doctor, looks like you've got time disease
[30:22]
they leave his body in the street like everyone else does. They leave his body in the street and they're running out of time too
[30:26]
but they get more time from his cop car
[30:28]
and then they just keep on as time robbers and society is destabilized and
[30:33]
one of the deputies who was working with Murphy
[30:36]
quits
[30:37]
and they're folk heroes and they start robbing time banks again and that's the
[30:40]
end of the movie. Well the last shot is the two of them about to rob the biggest bank ever
[30:45]
yeah I assume it's time knocks. Kind of like the end of Deep Rising where True Williams and Famke Jensen are about to go into the giant
[30:50]
island full of monsters. And there's just like the two of them, I mean like I don't care
[30:54]
I mean the movie's fucking over at this point so who cares but I'm still kind of like
[30:57]
okay there's just two of you going into this huge bank
[31:00]
well it's like the Matrix, they've probably got guns strapped to their hoo-hahs
[31:04]
and legs. And they probably know karate like that Neo guy did. Yeah and they can control
[31:09]
bullets with bullet time because it's in time, time, time, time
[31:12]
I think he's got a point. Time Time Club. Or maybe they can hold each other's hands and shoot fucking lasers, I don't know
[31:17]
I don't like this shit. Like Fenris
[31:19]
come on
[31:19]
it's a movie
[31:21]
so this is a pretty lazy dystopia
[31:23]
it's incredibly lazy. Let's talk about that for a second
[31:26]
everyone drives around. I've seen a lot of dystopian futures. Equilibriums, 1984s, Equilibriums
[31:32]
that one you came back from the future to warn us about
[31:35]
yeah I've seen them all
[31:36]
but will this car, I mean like they're all driving like seventies cars around
[31:39]
but they have like, they've got like space noises when they drive, like they're just regular seventies cars
[31:44]
it looks like they shot a movie, they made a choice, it's kind of like
[31:47]
you said this was made by the same guy who made Gattaca? Yeah. In Gattaca it's like
[31:51]
the future but they all wear old timey suits
[31:53]
in this one it's like, it's the future but they all drive old cars, but it's like the studio is like
[31:58]
can we future up these cars a little bit? So when they open the door to a seventies muscle car you hear
[32:01]
like a pneumatic noise, it's ridiculous
[32:06]
and they're driving around
[32:08]
it's like Repo Man was kind of the same way, right? Great point. I don't remember it that well but
[32:14]
Repo Man was basically the same. No, not at all
[32:18]
it was more futuristic? No, less futuristic than Repo Man
[32:21]
Repo Man. Oh, I'm starting to think of Repo Man. Repo Man was like that, yeah.
[32:24]
Yeah, Repo Man didn't have a lot of space sound effects?
[32:29]
I mean at the end that car did glow and go into space. Up until then there were not a lot of them
[32:34]
but in Repo Man, yeah, it's the future but they all dress and live in houses that look
[32:37]
exactly like nowadays. It's like the movie AI
[32:40]
where
[32:40]
it's like two hundred years in the future but guys still dress like Steven Spielberg dresses now
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like khakis and a button-down plaid shirt
[32:48]
Look, that's a fine choice to make. I mean, you know... I want to see them wearing space clothes.
[32:53]
Yeah, like in Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey. We can all acknowledge that
[32:57]
things change slower than people
[32:59]
imagine they're going to change. People are like... I don't want them to wear silver jumpsuits.
[33:03]
1950s visions of the future are like these crazy visions that are
[33:08]
never going to come true
[33:10]
but you've got to pick one or the other. You can't have just regular cars with space noises on top of them.
[33:16]
Because why would they add those?
[33:18]
But also like
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there's no... things in the ghetto area of Dayton don't look...
[33:25]
the surroundings look like
[33:27]
it's a district made up of warehouses and run-down buildings but everyone's dressed pretty nicely
[33:31]
and like
[33:32]
they don't look... they're all 25
[33:34]
so they don't look malnourished or unhealthy. They all look really healthy and like
[33:39]
they're having a great time. Do we have any idea how long it's been since
[33:43]
this like time economy was instituted?
[33:46]
At least a hundred years.
[33:50]
They don't really address any of the
[33:52]
questions you would want to ask about this which is
[33:55]
like has it always been this way or like did it start at some point?
[33:59]
They say people have been genetically
[34:01]
altered to be this way. But they don't give like the details of like why this
[34:04]
switchover happened or... What you're saying is they should open with a
[34:08]
woman's voiceover
[34:10]
in the year 2245
[34:12]
after the great disaster. Exactly. Man re-emerged from the underground. I like it.
[34:17]
But it seems like... Led by the scientists. Let's watch it again. Krogh von Krogar.
[34:21]
They designed the time men. If this is going to be a movie about overthrowing the
[34:26]
like the dominant power then there has to be some indication
[34:29]
at some point
[34:30]
of like why did this operate this way or how. Well it's a metaphor. It's all a big allegory.
[34:35]
Yeah. But it's not set up that way. It's set up like a... It's set up like a science fiction movie.
[34:41]
This is what I was going to say actually which is... And then I have the other thing to say.
[34:45]
I could imagine this premise as goofy as it is
[34:48]
making an okay movie. But they would have to scale it way back and make it like a
[34:52]
human scaled
[34:54]
much more of like a overt metaphor like allegory
[34:58]
picture. Like I could see...
[35:01]
More like primer?
[35:02]
Yeah. I could see something like primer or even like more of an art film
[35:06]
approaching this material and making it work in some way.
[35:10]
But when you turn it... When you like graft on just a regular
[35:14]
sort of action... Kind of a Bonnie and Clyde action plot line.
[35:17]
Can you put quotations around action please?
[35:20]
When you graft on... Let's call it a thriller. It wasn't very thrilling either. A conventional plot line.
[35:24]
When you graft a conventional plot line on top of this all you can think about are the logic
[35:28]
flaws at that point. Yeah. Here's the thing I couldn't quite understand. Because they explain a little bit
[35:32]
how the time works.
[35:34]
It's in your arm. People can steal it from you. When you die, your time gets locked in you.
[35:37]
If you die before you've used up your time, they keep it in time bricks. All that stuff is
[35:42]
totally explainable.
[35:44]
In the real world, we have money. People without a lot of money are poor. People
[35:48]
with money are rich.
[35:49]
But something called credit has evolved to fill the gap
[35:53]
so that you can borrow and then pay back.
[35:57]
But it's not money. It's a different kind of thing than money.
[36:00]
And in this they have where you can borrow time and then I guess pay it back at a later date.
[36:04]
But the interest rates are so ridiculously high. Credit doesn't really
[36:09]
seem to exist in this movie. There's no market in this movie.
[36:13]
It's just kind of like feudalism. You would think that there would be some kind of a system
[36:17]
in place so that if you are, I don't know, just about to die for not having enough time
[36:23]
that you could borrow some on credit.
[36:26]
This movie seems to be predicated on the idea that
[36:31]
if you have a small group of people who control everything, they can oppress poor people
[36:35]
by constantly forcing poor people to die.
[36:38]
But the problem is that you don't have enough poor people to run your time factory.
[36:41]
That was what I was about to say. They seem to be saying,
[36:44]
oh, we're going to keep these people down. This is our way of
[36:48]
oppressing them. But that kind of economy only works
[36:53]
if it's a pyramid. The work of the many is going to create
[36:58]
an easy lifestyle for the people at the top. You can't just kill off all of the people
[37:03]
at the bottom. They leave their bodies rotting on the street.
[37:06]
You never see the bodies rotting. I wonder if they're just like...
[37:09]
They turn into time. Disappear into the ether.
[37:14]
I mean ultimately this is not... There's a lot of holes with this dystopia.
[37:19]
You don't say. It's almost like the movie Holes.
[37:24]
But I think the filmmaker would probably say like,
[37:27]
hey, it's not literal. Don't get hung up on the details.
[37:32]
But it does feel really slacked together. You never give a shit what happens to the characters.
[37:36]
If it's sort of this outraged cry, say, about the class system,
[37:42]
then it has to show some basic understanding of how the class system actually works.
[37:46]
I guess so. Rather than what this movie sets up, which is a completely unworkable system.
[37:51]
Yeah, and then expect us to worry about the people involved.
[37:56]
Yeah. Is Justin Timberlake going to have enough time to get out of this one?
[38:00]
Yeah, he is because there's no movie if he doesn't.
[38:04]
And for there to be a satisfying revenge story for Justin Timberlake,
[38:08]
you have to put more than maybe 15 minutes worth of setup into his character.
[38:13]
Like he wakes up, he goes to a factory. Oh, no, he gets a bunch of money, gets a bunch of time.
[38:18]
Oh, no, his girlfriend dies. Time to go on a revenge spree.
[38:20]
Yeah. Well, the thing is, like the main motivator for his revenge,
[38:24]
his girlfriend dying is sort of hustled under the rug so he can have a romance.
[38:29]
Well, he kind of forgets about it. Well, but then once again, hamburger steak, guys.
[38:32]
But then we talked about that. We learned that hamburger steak.
[38:36]
You've managed to figure out a way to compare these two women in a way that denigrates neither of them.
[38:41]
And that in no way is offensive to all human beings.
[38:45]
You've managed to come up with this analogy comparing two beautiful women to ground up hamburger meat or beef.
[38:54]
Or non ground up. Or non ground up beef.
[38:57]
That really, I think it's just so not misogynistic at all.
[39:02]
It shows a sensitivity. A real egalitarianism.
[39:06]
The thing is, Elliot, time's money. I don't think that doesn't apply.
[39:09]
I don't understand. Are you losing money?
[39:11]
I have deflected your critique.
[39:14]
Oh, man. The last thing I'll say about this is it was lazily thrown together.
[39:19]
Like the same thing we were saying, like we don't know who Justin Timberlake is.
[39:22]
Later on in the movie, Cillian Murphy starts saying, you didn't know your dad, but he tried to do the same thing.
[39:27]
And we never – that never comes to fruition in any way.
[39:30]
Because values are genetic.
[39:33]
Yes. Exactly. Just like time.
[39:36]
And it's just a lame – it's a boring movie.
[39:40]
Yeah. We're already kind of there, but I guess we should give our final judgments.
[39:45]
Okay.
[39:46]
Is this a good bad movie, a bad bad movie, or a movie you kind of like?
[39:50]
Stuart, what do you have to say? Let's say ye.
[39:54]
No. I'll do a bad, bad movie. This is a bad, bad movie.
[39:57]
Like as if that was a surprise.
[40:00]
As if we convinced you.
[40:02]
I agree with you guys.
[40:03]
No, it's it's it's not.
[40:05]
But maybe if it was a little more actiony,
[40:09]
it's just for a movie that's all about time.
[40:11]
It seems to not make very good use of it.
[40:13]
It moves very slowly.
[40:15]
That's the worst thing about is not that the society it sets up doesn't work,
[40:18]
but that it's just super slow and dull.
[40:21]
And you talk to that.
[40:22]
And as as you just did, the parody of the the director saying,
[40:26]
oh, you can't take it too seriously.
[40:27]
But one of the problems with the movie is it does take itself a little too.
[40:30]
Yeah, very seriously.
[40:31]
Except he uses the word time a lot.
[40:33]
Yeah. Within the first three minutes of the movie,
[40:35]
I think you hear the word time more times than I've heard it my entire life.
[40:38]
Well, then that segues directly into what I was going to say,
[40:42]
which is for the first, you know, 15, 20 minutes, I thought, oh, maybe this
[40:46]
this could be like a good bad movie because it's so silly
[40:48]
with all of the time stuff being set up.
[40:50]
But all that gets thrown at you quickly at the beginning of the movie.
[40:54]
And then the rest of the movie is is is sort of a slog.
[40:58]
Like it does not a coleslaw ever have that level of extra
[41:03]
sustained goofiness again.
[41:05]
As you said, Elliot, at one point, like I don't like movies
[41:09]
where the hero spent a lot of time hiding out.
[41:11]
And that's that's a lot of the middle section of this movie.
[41:14]
It's yeah, the heroes aren't doing a lot.
[41:16]
They're just kind of like waiting around in hotel rooms,
[41:19]
repeating to each other what the movie is about.
[41:22]
Yeah. If they're not hiding from a Terminator, I don't want to see it.
[41:27]
Yes. But the I mean, to be on the run is OK.
[41:29]
But to be just sitting in a hotel room for a long time, going like,
[41:34]
are we stealing?
[41:36]
If you steal something that's already stolen, is that stealing?
[41:38]
Or is that blah, blah, blah?
[41:40]
Here's how you win time arm wrestling,
[41:43]
time wrestling.
[41:45]
So I was going to give it a bad, bad movie also because of the storytelling.
[41:49]
It's just a you'd think a movie like this
[41:51]
where they're constantly running out of time, they'd be running
[41:53]
and it would be super fast, like you'd want it to be like crank.
[41:57]
But instead, it's not like crank.
[41:59]
It's just kind of very dull.
[42:02]
And that is the worst crime a film can commit to be dull.
[42:05]
A time crime.
[42:07]
So time to kill time.
[42:10]
That's I got I've got some time X takes a time and keeps on timing.
[42:16]
God, I have a few letters to read.
[42:21]
This one. Oh, yeah.
[42:22]
Dan, you said your part is my favorite part.
[42:24]
Dan, you sound so depressed because we're reading letters.
[42:26]
No, I forgot to print them out because well, they all talk about
[42:29]
how their favorite movie is time.
[42:31]
Wait, no, in time, because then we'd be in trouble.
[42:34]
I forgot to print them out.
[42:36]
So the movie should have been called just in time.
[42:37]
So I I'm reading them off of my iPad.
[42:41]
I can see how that would make the experience so much worse.
[42:44]
Well, I just I haven't vetted things in the same way.
[42:46]
And this is also this will be a nice.
[42:47]
It's rough on the eyes.
[42:48]
This will be a nice ad for the flop house wiki where they talk about Dan's iPad.
[42:52]
Oh, yeah. We do. They have a thing for Dan.
[42:54]
Yeah, I do. Oh, OK.
[42:56]
Flop has been early for porn and surfing for Las Vegas,
[43:00]
taking pictures of his own penis, my friend.
[43:02]
So this is by the way, I just want to say
[43:04]
the people at the flop house wiki are doing great work.
[43:06]
Keep it up, fellas. We really appreciate it.
[43:09]
This letter is from Andrew.
[43:11]
Last name withheld.
[43:12]
And it's it's called some praise for Elliott.
[43:15]
And then I call him out for being a wrong idiot.
[43:17]
Oh, you get that a lot.
[43:19]
I do get called out for being a wrong idiot a lot.
[43:21]
So I guess.
[43:23]
Hello, Dan, Elliott and Stewart.
[43:24]
It's not a massive part of your broadcast.
[43:26]
And be honest, it's part broadcast.
[43:29]
That's our cattle prod talk podcast.
[43:30]
And to be honest, it's the part that sort of signals the fun is over.
[43:33]
And a slavish adherence to the format means there's going to be about five
[43:36]
minutes of gag free earnest bullshit.
[43:38]
Is this a recommendation?
[43:39]
But I thought I'd like I thought I'd write to say that the recommendations,
[43:42]
specifically Elliott's recommendations, are almost uniformly excellent.
[43:45]
Thank you.
[43:46]
This praise would never be followed by someone calling me a big wrong idiot.
[43:50]
Thanks to the flop house.
[43:51]
I've seen the friends of Eddie Coyle and dug up Los Angeles stars as itself.
[43:56]
It's on YouTube with only part eleven of twelve removed for copyright reasons.
[44:00]
So I'm torn.
[44:02]
While recommendations is the wiping your dick on a hand towel
[44:05]
to the movies, movie reviews, the actual full body coitus.
[44:09]
If it wasn't there, I never would have heard of Castle Freak.
[44:12]
I think so.
[44:13]
You found somehow a worse analogy than Stewart's hamburger steak
[44:16]
when where ironically a man cleans his dick by ripping it off.
[44:22]
Wait, that's how he was cleaning his dick.
[44:24]
Yeah.
[44:26]
Also, don't you just overzealous with your family?
[44:28]
Do you think it was like a paper towel?
[44:30]
Who knows?
[44:31]
I'm not a fucking freak.
[44:33]
That's true.
[44:34]
You don't live in a castle.
[44:35]
It's also in the red writing episode.
[44:39]
Self-proclaimed pedant.
[44:40]
Elliot talked about red writing as being said in North England and England.
[44:45]
We'd say northern England or the north of England.
[44:48]
North England makes no sense.
[44:50]
This has been bothering me for about two months now.
[44:52]
Call yourself a pedant.
[44:53]
You idiot.
[44:55]
Keep up the good work.
[44:55]
Well, Northie, I should have just said Yorkshire.
[44:59]
So, well, thanks for calling me out on that one.
[45:01]
As you can tell, I don't know what I'm talking about when I'm using
[45:05]
English geographical terms.
[45:08]
Obviously, I also have a harder time reading when I'm not reading on paper.
[45:11]
Yeah, because it's hard on the eyes.
[45:13]
I can see. Yeah.
[45:14]
It's like you're just spinning on Steve Jobs' grave right now.
[45:18]
It's exactly like that.
[45:19]
But thanks for your letter and thanks for the praise.
[45:21]
I think it's a movie.
[45:22]
It's called Los Angeles Plays Itself.
[45:24]
Yeah. So there you go.
[45:25]
So take that.
[45:26]
Pedant won.
[45:28]
That guy also won.
[45:30]
I guess we.
[45:31]
Yeah, Stuart and I just high fived, but it was kind of a tap.
[45:34]
Yeah, it was a gentle, pretty lame high five.
[45:36]
Well, now we're caressing each other's hands.
[45:39]
OK, now our hands are moving farther down.
[45:41]
OK, so now we're arm wrestling for time.
[45:43]
Stuart's looking at my time clock.
[45:45]
Oh, he's got distracted.
[45:47]
Oh, Stuart's dead now.
[45:48]
This is a ghost. And I have his time.
[45:51]
This one is from Matthew.
[45:52]
Last name with hell.
[45:53]
And it's titled Dan is the best flopper.
[45:56]
I'm going to reply to this right now with an email titled No, he isn't.
[45:59]
Sure. OK, go on.
[46:01]
Dearest by man decoy.
[46:05]
A man decoy.
[46:07]
Dearest House of Flop.
[46:08]
I started listening after Dan's guest spot on We Didn't Weep
[46:12]
and quickly became hooked.
[46:13]
I've run through the whole back catalog several times
[46:16]
and have even begun contributing to the wiki.
[46:19]
So I think it could safely be called a flop house mega fan.
[46:22]
And I'm writing in to address a persistent issue
[46:25]
through most of the episodes that couldn't be done.
[46:26]
The mega fan.
[46:29]
Dan is always undervalued by Stuart and Elliot.
[46:31]
Oh, well, I appreciate all of Elliot's words that sound like other words
[46:35]
and Stuart's fondness for talking about boobs, not to mention the house cat.
[46:39]
I think if I were one of the floppers, I would really, really.
[46:43]
Oh, I would be damned because I can relate to him better.
[46:47]
He's like the big brother of the podcast.
[46:50]
Yeah, that's good.
[46:53]
Who are you talking about to deal with two rambunctious siblings?
[46:57]
Well, so don't worry, Dan.
[47:02]
You've got fans, two or one fan, at least.
[47:05]
But I didn't write just to praise Dan.
[47:07]
We'll say two is what's probably the case.
[47:09]
Nope. She said I'm her favorite.
[47:12]
I have some questions for all three of you.
[47:15]
What were your two favorite movies of last year?
[47:18]
What was your least favorite movie?
[47:19]
And if you were shut up in a windowless room with a TV, a DVD player
[47:22]
and one DVD of your choice, what movie from any year would you choose?
[47:26]
Stuart, you should assume that Castle Freak, Invisible Maniac
[47:29]
and Head of the Family are already there.
[47:30]
And you get to pick a fourth one.
[47:32]
Stuart gets four movies.
[47:36]
Well, that's a lot of questions.
[47:36]
I feel like in our in our Flop-tacular Flopcast Awards flopper,
[47:40]
we kind of covered our favorite movies and least and maybe least.
[47:44]
I think our least favorite for me and Stuart was, what, Skyline?
[47:47]
Skyline wasn't my least favorite flop movie.
[47:50]
Your Highness was your Highness was really bad.
[47:54]
But what about this Desert Island movie idea?
[47:58]
That was one of the oh, oh, I'm staying on a desert.
[48:00]
Even the movie you get to choose.
[48:01]
Not not I'm not I'm not pitching like a movie idea.
[48:03]
You're pitching a remake of the Blue Lagoon.
[48:06]
Yeah, it's a remake of Castaway where he gets stuck on the thing.
[48:10]
What? The Looney Tunes Fantastic Island thing.
[48:13]
All right. Well, I mean, I don't think he's stuck on an island.
[48:16]
He's stuck on an island.
[48:18]
No, it's it's a it's a it's a fantasy island parody.
[48:21]
Daffy Duck as Ricardo Montalban.
[48:23]
Yeah. And Speedy is.
[48:25]
Jorge Velachez. Yeah.
[48:27]
Yeah, but it can't be like that. No. OK.
[48:30]
I think maybe it might have started off with Daffy getting stuck on the island
[48:33]
and then realizing that there was a magic well there.
[48:35]
Oh, yeah, maybe.
[48:36]
But I don't think that I don't think the main thrust of it was that he was stuck
[48:40]
on an island.
[48:40]
I mean, he's not spent the whole time bitching about how he can't get off the island.
[48:44]
I'm guessing they had a Stuart's movie that he would have on an island.
[48:48]
Looney Tunes. Fantastic Island.
[48:52]
Not the choice I expect you to make.
[48:54]
I thought you were going to say like some kind of Brazzers compilation.
[48:59]
There's something with boobs.
[49:00]
Yeah. What are you going to pick, Stu?
[49:01]
I'll probably say The Granny.
[49:04]
Interesting. The Granny.
[49:05]
It's a it's a movie featuring an old granny
[49:09]
who becomes a demon and then kills all of her ungrateful children.
[49:14]
There's some boobs and dead granny at the end.
[49:17]
Spoiler alert.
[49:20]
So you like a movie that has boobs and dead old people.
[49:23]
We found what Stuart likes.
[49:25]
If you make a movie that has boobs, dead old people, a guy getting.
[49:28]
Not Titanic. Titanic doesn't count.
[49:30]
You don't get to see those people dead.
[49:31]
A guy. A guy.
[49:33]
Assume that they die.
[49:33]
A guy ripping his own penis off and someone being killed with a submarine sandwich.
[49:38]
It would be Stuart's perfect movie.
[49:41]
Box office hit. No, no.
[49:44]
Very. The definition of a niche film.
[49:47]
Um, what about you, Daniel?
[49:51]
I might go with North by Northwest, which is not my favorite Hitchcock movie,
[49:56]
but probably the most entertaining Hitchcock movie.
[49:59]
And.
[50:00]
and Alfred Hitchcock is maybe the most entertaining director.
[50:03]
So it's up there just in terms of just sheer joy.
[50:10]
I don't know if I would go with that as my favorite movie,
[50:12]
but it's a movie that's easy to watch and is still easy
[50:17]
to watch once you've seen it a couple times.
[50:19]
I would go with the original taking of Pelham 1-2-3,
[50:23]
which is one of my two favorite movies, and it is a movie
[50:27]
that you can watch over and over again.
[50:29]
Every time I watch it, I kind of want to rewind it
[50:31]
and watch it again right away, and I would go less insane
[50:36]
if I had that on my desert island as the only movie.
[50:38]
That's a great movie.
[50:39]
If you haven't seen it, you need to go see it.
[50:41]
Yeah, I just rewatched it actually a couple weekends ago,
[50:44]
and man, is that a good movie.
[50:45]
It's really good.
[50:46]
And talk about entertaining.
[50:47]
Oh, boy.
[50:50]
You don't know entertaining until you've seen the original
[50:52]
taking of Pelham 1-2-3.
[50:53]
No dead grannies, though, right?
[50:56]
There are no dead grannies and like a big fat guy
[50:58]
who's kind of old gets killed.
[50:59]
Okay.
[51:00]
No, I'm up for that.
[51:02]
Doris Roberts is in it when she was middle-aged
[51:04]
as opposed to very old as she is now,
[51:06]
so you can imagine she's a granny.
[51:07]
Okay.
[51:08]
She doesn't die, but.
[51:09]
No, I mean, yeah, thanks.
[51:14]
So this one is from Clay Last Name Withheld.
[51:17]
It's titled.
[51:18]
A Golem.
[51:21]
Wait, what's the title of that one again?
[51:24]
It's close.
[51:26]
It's close.
[51:27]
I'm so proud of you, Beth.
[51:28]
Hello, floppers.
[51:29]
You patented that?
[51:30]
Yeah.
[51:31]
You copyrighted it?
[51:32]
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[51:33]
I'm from Daleville, Indiana,
[51:33]
which is about an hour south of Fort Wayne.
[51:35]
Oh, nice.
[51:36]
As I was listening to the latest episode,
[51:38]
I was happy to hear that Stewart
[51:39]
had recently been home to Fort Wayne,
[51:41]
but as I thought about it, a squeal went down my spine.
[51:44]
I remember that a while ago,
[51:46]
as I stood outside at night smoking a cigarette,
[51:48]
I heard a chilling screech.
[51:50]
It could only be described as a giant.
[51:54]
That's better.
[51:54]
The squeal haunted me every night
[51:56]
until I heard the episode.
[51:57]
I now realize it must have been none other
[51:59]
than the Flophouse Housecat,
[52:01]
who I assume must have been with Stewart
[52:02]
as he drove north on Interstate 69
[52:04]
from Indianapolis toward Fort Wayne.
[52:06]
Now I feel so honored to have been only a quarter of a mile
[52:09]
from the Flophouse Housecat.
[52:10]
Thank you guys for the laughs and great times.
[52:12]
Not me, though, obviously.
[52:13]
I can't wait to hear from the Housecat soon.
[52:16]
Yeah, I'll send you a letter.
[52:19]
The Housecat is a very prolific letter writer.
[52:23]
Yeah, so you and the Housecat went together
[52:25]
to visit your family?
[52:26]
Yeah, my wife wasn't super cool with it
[52:28]
because she had to sit in the back.
[52:30]
I assume the Housecat, feet out the window,
[52:32]
just tossing beer cans out.
[52:34]
Yeah, listening to Van Halen the whole way.
[52:37]
Raising hell, making trouble, and listening to VH.
[52:40]
Okay.
[52:41]
That's the Housecat.
[52:42]
Our final letter tonight.
[52:45]
Or whatever time of day you're listening to this.
[52:46]
Yeah.
[52:47]
Time.
[52:48]
Is from Elliot's brother.
[52:50]
What?
[52:51]
David, last name withheld.
[52:53]
Thanks for withholding the last name of my brother.
[52:55]
And the brother of Elliot Kalin.
[52:57]
Is he going to complain about some sports trivia
[52:59]
we got wrong?
[53:00]
That sounds like my brother.
[53:01]
Let's clarify this Rooney Mara Giants connection.
[53:04]
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
[53:08]
Stuart, you are now no Stuart Thomas.
[53:11]
The fortune telling guy.
[53:14]
Robot.
[53:14]
Robot?
[53:15]
He's a robot in this scenario.
[53:16]
Okay.
[53:18]
Since this episode was first posted a month ago.
[53:20]
I predict the fall of humanity.
[53:23]
I'm sure I'm well.
[53:24]
Or just what Elliot's brother will talk about.
[53:26]
Since this episode was first posted a month ago,
[53:28]
I'm sure I'm well behind on the whole thing.
[53:30]
But I was listening to your Dreamhouse podcast today
[53:33]
while sitting in my friend's apartment in Dallas,
[53:34]
name dropper.
[53:35]
Ha ha ha, what did you say?
[53:37]
I feel the need to explain.
[53:38]
Dallas is not the person.
[53:39]
Not Bryce Dallas Howard?
[53:41]
I feel I need to explain why Rooney Mara
[53:42]
is related to the Giants and Steelers actually.
[53:44]
Not Dallas the character from Aliens.
[53:46]
Rooney Mara is Giants part owner John Mara's niece,
[53:49]
not his daughter.
[53:51]
Rooney's father, Timothy Mara,
[53:52]
not to be confused with Giants founder Tim Mara,
[53:54]
Rooney's great grandfather who started the team in 1925,
[53:58]
is the Giants vice president of player evaluation.
[54:00]
Thanks Dickapedia.
[54:01]
Ha ha ha, interestingly, Timothy Mara's wife,
[54:06]
that is.
[54:06]
No, that was the wrong word to use
[54:08]
to start that sentence Dave.
[54:10]
Interestingly, Timothy Mara's wife,
[54:12]
that is Rooney's mother,
[54:13]
is actually the granddaughter of Pittsburgh Steelers founder
[54:16]
Art Rooney Sr.
[54:18]
Making Rooney Mara the great granddaughter
[54:20]
of both the founder of the Giants and the Steelers.
[54:22]
The Steelers current chairman, Dan Rooney,
[54:24]
is her great uncle.
[54:25]
Dan Rooney is also an ambassador to Ireland.
[54:27]
What about Andy Rooney?
[54:28]
How is he related to these people?
[54:30]
But as a result of these connections,
[54:32]
if I'm not mistaken, Rooney Mara and her sister Kate
[54:34]
both regularly have clauses written into their contracts
[54:36]
stating that if the Giants or Steelers make the Super Bowl,
[54:39]
they do not have to work that day
[54:40]
so they can attend the game.
[54:42]
Also, another fun bit of Giants movie trivia.
[54:44]
Again, fun, not the right answer.
[54:46]
Co-owner Steve Tisch, a producer for Forrest Gump,
[54:49]
is the only man to ever win both a Super Bowl
[54:51]
and an Oscar for Best Picture.
[54:52]
He didn't deserve either.
[54:53]
I hope that fully answers the question
[54:55]
none of you were asking.
[54:56]
If he wins the Super Bowl, I would imagine.
[54:58]
If you actually read this in your next episode,
[55:00]
I'm sure Elliot will follow up this explanation
[55:02]
with some droll mockery of my personality
[55:04]
or our relationship.
[55:05]
If that happens, you're welcome.
[55:07]
No, I am proud to call you my brother
[55:11]
and proud of the vast stores of crap
[55:15]
that you have in your brain.
[55:16]
Look, it's just different kinds of crap.
[55:18]
That's true.
[55:18]
Okay, I'll give you that.
[55:20]
You cover different areas.
[55:21]
No.
[55:22]
You would be killer, the two of you,
[55:23]
on a, say, a pub trivia team.
[55:25]
Yeah, we should team up sometime.
[55:27]
I mean, technically the state of New York
[55:28]
has barred us from doing that
[55:30]
for the reason that we would destroy all comers.
[55:33]
Well, I'm glad my-
[55:34]
And all these hearts would be broken
[55:36]
when they find out that you're already taken.
[55:38]
Well, and that my brother, he's single.
[55:41]
Yeah, but you guys can't do like a tag team on any girl.
[55:44]
Okay, that's why their hearts would be broken.
[55:47]
Not an image I ever want to think of.
[55:49]
But I am glad, speaking of that,
[55:50]
that my brother put a lot of energy into that
[55:52]
rather than in dating, so.
[55:55]
Wow, so you did serve up a burn.
[55:57]
There's the droll mockery.
[55:58]
Hot and all spicy.
[55:59]
No, just kidding.
[56:00]
Thanks, Dave.
[56:01]
JK.
[56:02]
Thanks for correcting us on that.
[56:03]
I've already forgotten what you told us.
[56:06]
I think what he was saying was that Art Carney
[56:08]
is the founder of the Steelers.
[56:13]
That's weird when you find the time.
[56:15]
So, let's do some really quick recommendations
[56:18]
of movies we've seen recently that we might,
[56:21]
might, you know, give the Flophouse seal of approval.
[56:25]
Usually the way you say it is,
[56:26]
movies we actually liked.
[56:29]
Okay.
[56:31]
Two real quick ones.
[56:32]
First is, I think you should go see John Carter
[56:35]
because it's actually pretty good
[56:36]
and it deserves to make some money.
[56:37]
Jimmy Carter?
[56:38]
John Carter, John Carter of Mars.
[56:40]
Oh, John Carpenter's Ghost of Mars.
[56:42]
Because it's not a fucking Transformers sequel.
[56:44]
You should go see it.
[56:45]
Please give it some money.
[56:47]
The other one is a recommendation
[56:48]
for Martha, Marcy May, Marlene.
[56:51]
I want to see that, I swear.
[56:52]
It's a psychological thriller and it's-
[56:56]
Like in time.
[56:57]
It's exactly like in time.
[56:59]
I actually was, yeah, no, it's great.
[57:03]
John Hawks is good in it and it's the type of thriller
[57:06]
that you don't quite know what's real
[57:08]
or what's a dream or what's going on when
[57:11]
and time is kind of crazy.
[57:12]
It's great.
[57:14]
And it manages to make normal stuff seem very scary
[57:17]
which I'm always impressed by.
[57:18]
I'm going to recommend, I was on a,
[57:21]
on my flight to and from Las Vegas, I saw three movies.
[57:25]
I'm going to recommend all of them to varying degrees.
[57:28]
Starting at the low end, I watched Tower Heist
[57:31]
which I would say probably is a good movie
[57:33]
to watch on an airplane.
[57:34]
I'm not sure in another situation
[57:36]
how much I would have liked it, but I really enjoyed it.
[57:39]
It's a surprising attempt to do like a late 60s,
[57:42]
early 70s, like New York light thriller, caper thriller.
[57:46]
It's less of a comedy than it was sold as.
[57:49]
It's got kind of an interesting cross-section
[57:51]
of actors in it.
[57:52]
Alan Alda and Matthew Broderick,
[57:54]
I think are particularly kind of fun in it.
[57:57]
Real Steel, I watched, which is much better
[58:00]
than any movie about fighting robots should be.
[58:03]
That's a movie that-
[58:04]
With robot jocks.
[58:05]
Yeah, why would you apply that a movie
[58:07]
about fighting robots be bad?
[58:08]
Well, I mean-
[58:09]
I would assume this movie's going to be great.
[58:10]
This movie starts off, guys,
[58:11]
with a robot fighting a bull at a small town country fair.
[58:17]
Wait, so the robot is working his way up through the system?
[58:19]
Yeah, yeah, no, it's an old junky robot
[58:21]
that's fighting a bull.
[58:23]
This is the robot a drunk?
[58:24]
If that sounds awesome, then this is a movie for you.
[58:27]
Like Hugh Jackman is possibly
[58:30]
one of the world's most charming men.
[58:31]
He commits to this with total seriousness.
[58:34]
I mean, seriousness in the sense
[58:36]
that he really commits to it,
[58:37]
but he's got a wink in the performance.
[58:40]
But it's fun.
[58:41]
It's a much better movie than I expected.
[58:42]
And-
[58:44]
And finally, third recommendation.
[58:46]
I finally watched-
[58:47]
The coveted three.
[58:48]
I watched Crazy, Stupid, Love, which I really enjoyed.
[58:52]
I think that it got probably less attention
[58:55]
than it could have gotten based on, number one,
[58:57]
the ads that made it look like Love Actually 2,
[58:59]
and number two, the terrible title, Crazy, Stupid, Love.
[59:02]
It is a terrible title.
[59:03]
But it's got some really funny stuff in it.
[59:05]
Those ads, guys, am I right?
[59:07]
Well, the thing is-
[59:07]
On the Gosling?
[59:08]
Gosling, Ryan Gosling.
[59:10]
I was not on board with Ryan Gosling until this year.
[59:12]
Then I saw Drive and this movie,
[59:14]
and I'm like, now I get it.
[59:15]
You didn't see Hef Nelson?
[59:16]
He's okay in that, but I was like-
[59:17]
But he's good in that.
[59:19]
I don't know.
[59:19]
This year, I'm saying I like him better.
[59:21]
What's the big deal?
[59:21]
He's on crack.
[59:22]
Who cares?
[59:23]
You didn't see Make Way for Gosling?
[59:24]
In this movie-
[59:25]
In this movie, I never thought that Ryan Gosling
[59:28]
had a sense of humor before I saw this movie,
[59:30]
but he's basically doing self-parody in this film.
[59:34]
He's really-
[59:35]
I don't think he knew it was a comedy.
[59:37]
Well, whatever.
[59:38]
He's very funny in it,
[59:39]
like playing the womanizer who is super charming,
[59:43]
super like masculine, knows how to get women,
[59:47]
but there's a wink in his performance that's really,
[59:50]
he's just really funny in it.
[59:52]
So I like that movie.
[59:54]
I'm gonna recommend an old movie.
[59:56]
What a surprise, huh?
[59:58]
This is a movie I saw the other day that I enjoyed a lot.
[1:00:00]
It's the first movie that the director Max Ophuls made in the United States.
[1:00:06]
You may know him from such films as La Ronde and The Earrings of Madame Deux.
[1:00:11]
But this is a movie he made with Douglas Fairbanks Jr. about Charles II being in exile in France after Cromwell took control of England and before Charles II returned for the restoration.
[1:00:23]
And it's actually kind of – it's this really fun kind of rollicking adventure where Douglas Fairbanks Jr. is kind of doing an homage to his father, Douglas Fairbanks, playing this very lighthearted, charming, smiling adventurer.
[1:00:38]
And there's the story about how he's the king of England and he's on the run from Cromwell's soldiers in Amsterdam – or in the Netherlands I think or Holland or wherever.
[1:00:48]
But it's just like a fun adventure romance and a lot – for a movie that I kind of watched on a lark, it was a very enjoyable surprise, and Douglas Fairbanks Jr. is really charming in it.
[1:01:00]
And it's just a lot of – it's the kind of movie that I wish Hollywood made more of and which the first of the Antonio Banderas and Benderas Zorro movies, it made it seem like there was going to be a return of.
[1:01:10]
It's kind of like old-fashioned charming adventure, so I'd recommend that one, The Exile.
[1:01:15]
Well, guys.
[1:01:16]
Gotcha.
[1:01:17]
It looks like we're running out of time.
[1:01:22]
Do I have time for one plug?
[1:01:23]
Yeah, please.
[1:01:24]
This coming April 5th, the first Thursday in April at 7.30 p.m. will be the last of my movie screenings at 92i Tribeca.
[1:01:31]
I already have my tickets.
[1:01:33]
Do you have yours?
[1:01:34]
No.
[1:01:35]
I was asking the listeners, not – anyway.
[1:01:39]
So it's the last of my closely-watched film screenings, a screening I've been doing – series I've been doing for a little bit less than three years now I guess.
[1:01:46]
It's been a fun series, but time to draw it to a close.
[1:01:49]
We're going to be showing a movie called The Good Fairy starring Margaret Sullivan and Herbert Marshall and Frank Nelson, who you may – not Frank Nelson.
[1:01:57]
I'm sorry.
[1:01:58]
Frank Morgan, who you may know as the wizard from Wizard of Oz, and it is one of Preston Sturges' early scripts before he started directing his own movies.
[1:02:06]
We're going to be watching it with special guest John Oliver.
[1:02:08]
I'm not familiar with his work.
[1:02:09]
Of The Daily Show with Jon Stewart.
[1:02:11]
Maybe you've seen him in The Love Guru.
[1:02:13]
Oh, yes.
[1:02:14]
As Dick Pants.
[1:02:15]
Yes, I do recall that.
[1:02:16]
So John Oliver will be the guest.
[1:02:18]
As always, as we do in this series, he has not seen the movie before, and afterwards I will ask him about what he thought of it.
[1:02:23]
And we're also going to be showing – because it's the last one, so they can't tell me I can't show it anymore – my seven-and-a-half-minute cut that I made myself of Capricorn One starring Elliot Gould and O.J. Simpson among others.
[1:02:35]
It's called The Astronaut Conspiracy Thriller, which I've cut down to really just the Elliot Gould scenes.
[1:02:40]
Sounds great.
[1:02:41]
It's actually a lot of fun, and we'll be showing that, and it's the last one.
[1:02:45]
So April 5th, the first Thursday in April, 7.30 p.m., 92-I Tribeca, 200 Hudson Street, Manhattan.
[1:02:51]
I suppose very quickly before we go, we should tease that we're going to have another Flophouse Live show.
[1:02:57]
This is an early tease.
[1:02:58]
It's not until June, but we're going to have – that's right.
[1:03:01]
So we're going to give you Flophouse Blue Balls.
[1:03:04]
We're getting to this space.
[1:03:05]
You were there.
[1:03:06]
You missed Twin Sitters, and you ruined the day.
[1:03:08]
You missed 12 rounds, and you almost killed yourself, but now you've got another chance.
[1:03:13]
Take the noose off your neck because there's going to be another Flophouse.
[1:03:17]
I love bad movies, bad movie screening in June.
[1:03:20]
What movie is it?
[1:03:21]
We're not going to say just yet.
[1:03:22]
No, I'm not going to tell anybody.
[1:03:23]
Suffice to say, it's awesome, and you'll love it.
[1:03:27]
Okay.
[1:03:28]
You can start speculating if you want, but you'll be disappointed.
[1:03:32]
If you want to write in with your guesses, feel free.
[1:03:34]
Fine by me.
[1:03:35]
But you'll be wrong.
[1:03:36]
But you'll be wrong.
[1:03:37]
Just don't write in any more sports trivia.
[1:03:40]
You hear that, David, my brother?
[1:03:43]
All right, guys.
[1:03:44]
Well –
[1:03:45]
Should we say what the date is for that one?
[1:03:47]
I can't remember.
[1:03:48]
It's in June.
[1:03:50]
I think it might be the 8th.
[1:03:51]
Yeah, it's the 8th.
[1:03:52]
Okay, June 8th.
[1:03:53]
It's a Friday.
[1:03:54]
But before that, April 5th, which is a Thursday, come see my movie.
[1:03:57]
All right.
[1:03:58]
Well, all that's left to do is to sign off.
[1:04:01]
So for The Flophouse, I've been Dan McCoy.
[1:04:03]
I'm still Stuart.
[1:04:04]
And I'm –
[1:04:08]
I'm Elliot Kalin.
[1:04:09]
I love the way you –
[1:04:13]
Goodbye, everyone.
[1:04:23]
Just fine.
[1:04:24]
Is that good?
[1:04:25]
Just fine.
[1:04:26]
Fine?
[1:04:27]
You're doing just fine.
[1:04:28]
Any way to improve?
[1:04:30]
On a scale from one to ten, with five being fine, where are we?
[1:04:34]
You're right at fine.
[1:04:36]
Okay, that's five.
[1:04:37]
We have five more steps of improvement to go.
[1:04:39]
No.
[1:04:40]
If you could give us, in three words, how we could best improve to get to six or higher.
[1:04:44]
I would say –
[1:04:45]
Three words.
[1:04:46]
That's already – I would say that's your three words.
[1:04:47]
So not very helpful, Dan.
[1:04:49]
In three.
[1:04:51]
Words.
[1:04:52]
Two.
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