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The Flop House: Episode #110 - Battleship
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In this episode, we discuss the based-on-a-board-game movie that ruined Clue's good name, Battleship.
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Hey, everyone, and welcome to the Flophouse. I'm Dan McCoy.
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Hey, I'm Stuart Wellington.
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And hey, to the third, I'm Elliot Kalin. The third. Actually, the second.
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How are you guys doing? Good. I missed you guys. You guys were on the trail.
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Yeah, we were away for a couple weeks.
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I don't want to reveal too much, but we're out of town.
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Reveal too much? We worked for a television show that was very publicly at the political conventions.
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That's true. But yeah, so I didn't get a lot of Dan and Elliot time, huh?
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Yeah, sorry about this, and we missed our Stuart time.
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We did hang out together while watching Seth Rogen movies.
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We figured that was the closest we could get.
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Yeah, I mean, it's basically the same thing.
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We put your face on a trash can, and we put a tape recorder inside of it.
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That went, wow!
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That's the right reverb. Sounds a lot like me.
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Yeah, but now we're all back together.
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Yep.
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For one brief shining moment before we're torn asunder.
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It's not that brief. The movie we watched was pretty long.
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Yeah, that was one of the longer movies we watched for this thing, if not the longest.
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Yeah, well, let's set this up.
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This is the Flophouse, a podcast where we watch a bad movie, then we chat about it afterwards,
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and tonight we watched a movie that was a trim two hours and 11 minutes long.
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Oof, yeah, a short 131 minutes.
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They couldn't cut a single minute from this movie.
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No, it was lean. It cut to the bone.
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Peter Berg's Magnum Opus, and I do mean Magnum Battleship.
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Why Magnum?
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Magnum means large, in the sense that a Magnum condom is a large gentleman.
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I thought Magnum condom was like regular size.
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Like Magnum P.I. was like a big P.I.
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A giant private P.I., yeah.
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And Magnum Force, the Dirty Harry movie, is about an enormous cop.
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An army of 10,000 cops, a big force.
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It's about the strong cosmic force, yeah.
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But this movie, Battleship, was about battleships, right?
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Not really.
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It was about the sales of the Hasbro game of the same name, right?
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This movie, Battleship, was about how far can a studio go to license a preexisting property
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and try to craft a story around it.
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That is also, as much as possible, the story of the movie Transformers.
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Should we talk about it?
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Probably.
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We usually do.
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Should we talk about something else?
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We could.
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We would probably be using our time much more wisely if we didn't talk about Battleship.
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Well, we already wasted over two hours watching it.
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Yeah, I mean, I miss you guys.
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Maybe you could talk about what you've been up to.
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Should we go through the plot briefly of Battleship?
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Please, let's do that.
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Well, let's just go over what the opening scenes of Battleship are like.
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Elliot, for once, wrote these down on the back of a receipt.
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I was like, I'm going to want to remember these.
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And then a couple of scenes in, I was like, well, I don't want to remember any of this.
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Okay, we start off with a bunch of scientists telling a bunch of reporters and other scientists
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that they're going to beam a message into space to look for aliens.
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Seems like a pretty concept we're all familiar with.
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But they go on about it for a while.
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This movie treats you as if you don't know anything about space.
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You've never seen a movie about aliens.
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What's an alien?
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Exactly.
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They're like, there are planets like Earth.
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No, you're thinking of immigrants.
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Build the space fence.
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Let's finish the dang space fence.
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Let's keep the aliens out from stealing or killing people and taking over the world jobs.
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So they explain for a while that a message is going to be beamed into space, and then they do just that.
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Cut to Taylor Kitsch, star of the show Friday Night Dreyfus, the show about Richard Dreyfus,
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is with his brother, who it turns out later is named Stone.
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Yeah, we found that out in, wait.
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During the credits.
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Oh, no, it was the last scene.
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Spoiler alert.
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Taylor Kitsch's last name is Hopper, by the way, so his brother's name is Stone Hopper.
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Stone Hopper, which is not a name.
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And Stone Hopper is talking to his brother about how his brother something Hopper, Sam Hopper, Alex Hopper.
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The main character of the movie.
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Everyone calls him Hopper, including his girlfriend.
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But they're at a bar.
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Hopper's just turned 20-something, and he is a total loser.
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A screw-up.
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He's a total fall.
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He's got nothing going for him.
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I wouldn't say he's a goofball.
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He's pretty serious.
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In a slobs versus snobs comedy, he would be cast as one of the slobs.
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Oh, certainly.
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Like a young Rodney Dangerfield.
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Not exactly.
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Sure.
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Well, I mean, he does not get no respect.
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He's more like the same age Andrew W.K., with his long hair and his partying heart.
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Okay, so a pretty girl walks up to the bar, and she wants to order a chicken burrito,
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since apparently this is one of those bars that has that.
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The bartender refuses to serve it to her.
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Of course, she's wasted.
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The bartender says, the kitchen is closed, and he closed the microwave door.
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Which is a funny joke.
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Yeah, it's a funny joke.
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But then, like, that doesn't mean that the woman then afterwards is like,
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oh, that's what the chicken burrito is?
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No, thank you.
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That seems to redouble her thirst for a chicken burrito.
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Hey, look, she's a cool gal.
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She likes crap.
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She saw that microwave.
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It was immaculate.
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Yeah, she was very clean.
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Spotless.
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Almost as if they had just bought it for a film shoot, and it had never been used.
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So he says, Taylor Kitsch is trying to hit on her, and he says,
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if you give me five minutes, I'll get you that chicken burrito.
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And she says, okay, you've got five minutes.
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Because that's impossible.
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Five minutes to make you a chicken burrito?
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He doesn't have the supplies.
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He doesn't have the skills.
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He's got to go to cooking school in five minutes, then grow the chicken.
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He doesn't know how it works.
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He's planting eggs in the ground to grow chicken trees.
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He doesn't know what he's doing.
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He runs across the street to a convenience store, which is closing.
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Uh-oh, they won't let him in.
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So the next scene, literally to the Pink Panther theme,
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is him breaking into the convenience store.
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Not a sound alike to the Pink Panther theme.
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They bought the Pink Panther theme and played it over.
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Henry Mancini's Pink Panther theme.
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And he breaks into a convenience store, falls through the ceiling,
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gets his chicken burrito, falls through the ceiling again.
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He pays for that burrito.
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He leaves some money on the counter.
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The cops are waiting for him outside, and he runs past the cops,
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is tased as he hands the burrito to the girl.
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This is a movie about space battleships.
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We don't know that yet.
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We don't know that yet.
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All we know is space exists, and this guy went to great lengths to get a burrito.
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This is still the fun portion of the movie.
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Yeah, maybe we were taken to the movie with a blindfold on,
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not told what movie we were watching.
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We would think it was called Burrito Ship.
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Yeah.
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Burrito Thief.
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Burrito Thief, the movie, based on the Hasbro board game, Burrito Thief.
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Archibald Burrito-tin III has his burrito safe wide open,
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but you're up against three other burrito thieves who want to steal that burrito.
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I believe that Colonel Mustard thieved that burrito in the convenience store with his hands.
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Wait, you can get a mustard burrito?
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Only a Colonel Mustard burrito.
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It's got to have corn kernels in it.
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I mean, that sounds pretty good.
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It's a lot of starch, though.
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The next day, his brother says, Taylor Kitsch wakes up in a bathtub full of ice,
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which leads me to believe his brother stole his kidney.
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And his brother Stonehopper says,
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That's it. You're a screw-up. You're joining me in the Navy.
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And he goes, Huh? Cut to the ocean. Battleship title.
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And suddenly it's the Japan versus U.S. Navy soccer game.
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Taylor Kitsch is cleaned up.
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He's either the captain of the team or something,
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and one of the Japanese players kicks him in the face by accident.
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They get into a fight, and he misses a very easy penalty shot.
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And you're like, All right, this movie's kind of funny.
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Proving that he can't handle the pressure of performing in front of a crowd of Japanese people.
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Yes. I mean, none of us can accept geishas, and they've been trained for that.
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Yeah.
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So by this point, you think this is a movie about a screw-up who's joined the Navy,
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and they're going to teach him how to be a man.
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This could be a very fun movie.
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Yeah.
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So you're like, Okay, you know what? This movie sounded stupid.
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It's based on a board game. I don't expect much, but I'm being entertained.
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Let's go. All right, movie, show me what you've got next.
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And what you've got next is two hours of the most boring movie maybe ever.
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And this is like an Andy Warhol movie level of boring.
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There's a brief moment later on that gets exciting when they introduce a bunch of geezers.
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That's true. Okay.
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Until that point, though.
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What are you talking about, Elliot?
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There's a bunch of explosions in that movie.
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But they're so boring.
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Explosions are always exciting.
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No, they're not apparently.
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Explosions, sound effects, robot effects.
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I'll give you one thing.
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Sound, robot effects.
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People call aliens that look like the Halo guys.
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To make a long story short, aliens got our message.
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They come back.
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Everybody repeats over and over again the most basic facts about alien invasions as if you've never seen a movie about alien invasions.
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Like Peter Berg, the director, is obsessed with the idea like I've seen a million alien invasion movies.
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I'm going to do it right this time so no one will ever have to go back and watch those movies that they probably already watched.
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Basically, yeah.
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So there's a lot of like there are five shapes coming towards us.
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I've been working on that impression for a while.
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Peter Berg impression.
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There are five shapes coming towards us.
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They're in formation.
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Oh, my God.
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It looks like they're being piloted.
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They're sending back a message.
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Where from?
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What are these things?
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Uh-oh.
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Now they're – it's like they're alien spaceships.
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They're probably sending that message back to space where you sent the message in the first place.
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You sent out a message to attract aliens and now aliens are here and you're like, what's going on?
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I don't understand.
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So aliens land.
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One of the ships hits a satellite and crashes and destroys Hong Kong.
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The other ships just start shooting away at navy boats.
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Sure, why not?
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We're in the middle of a U.S.-Japan joint naval exercise.
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The aliens land, they seal off a force field around some of the battleships and hang around for a while.
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They put this force field dome over it and it seems like they've got no interest in going anywhere.
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Like they just came down to just hang out in the water, shoot anything that's under this dome, this impregnable dome they've got.
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Except they somehow get past the force field.
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The force field seems to change size between small enough to cover three spaceships and a couple of battleships and big enough to cover the island of Oahu.
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Because that's where this relay station is that's shooting messages into space.
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And they have these spinning chain wheels that can just kind of roll through anything and cause lots of destruction.
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But the Navy can't seem to figure out how to get in to stop them even though they must have other ships in the air.
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The geography of the whole thing is really crazy.
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They've got these chain wheels that are like if you took Ghost Rider, the Tasmanian Devil, and like a robot and mixed them all up together.
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And a little bit of Pac-Man.
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Wait, the Tasmanian Devil isn't a robot in this world.
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He's an actual Tasmanian Devil?
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I mean he's not a robot in the cartoons either.
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He's not a robot.
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No.
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But how does he do that thing where he spins around and shoots laser beams at people?
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No laser beams.
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He just spins around.
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You're thinking of the wheel from this movie.
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Am I thinking of Gizmoduck?
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I think you are thinking of Gizmoduck when he presses all the buttons at once and goes battle crazy.
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It's his blood princess.
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He's a berserker.
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That's what people don't know about Gizmoduck is he's from a long line of Scandinavian berserkers.
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He's the best at what he does.
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He wears the bear shirt.
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And what he does, he's very nice.
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Underneath his armor he's wearing the bear shirt.
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He becomes more animal than man on the battlefield.
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More duck than robot.
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No, he's already a duck.
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They're all ducks.
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More robot than duck.
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He dons like a duck animal spirit?
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Yes.
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But he's already a duck.
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I guess it's their ancient ancestor.
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The spirit of a cave duck gets into him.
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Much like that one Ghostbusters episode where they call back Winston.
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You're talking about the real Ghostbusters.
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The real Ghostbusters, yes.
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Where they call back Winston's ancient African ancestor to defeat a spell or something.
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Wait, what?
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You don't remember that one?
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Wow.
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Was that with the boogeyman?
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No, it's not.
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Did that co-star LaVar Burton?
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No, it didn't.
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All right.
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But it's interesting because they're going through his past and he turns into a sharecropper very briefly.
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And eventually turns into an African tribesman.
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And it's like they really crammed a lot of the African American experience into this couple seconds of the real Ghostbusters.
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I want to say it's the episode where they're in the Museum of Natural History and the skeletons come to life.
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But I don't know that it is.
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Well, the world may never know.
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But J. Michael Straczynski probably wrote that episode.
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But anyway.
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So anyway, the aliens want to send a message back to their planet.
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That's probably along the lines of like, let's blow this place up.
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Because we're bad for some reason.
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We're bad for some reason.
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Send more cops, etc.
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And we periodically attack things and sometimes don't.
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They attack.
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I don't even remember why they get into a battle with the ships.
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But during it, they kill Stonehopper.
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There's a couple ships in the fucking bubble.
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And they blow up two of them and then just forget about the third one.
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Yeah, and Stonehopper is killed.
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And so his brother, our star, Taylor Kitsch, who apparently is the next most senior officer on board, becomes captain of the ship.
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Even though everyone knows he's a hothead screw-up.
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He's a total goofball.
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And not very good at soccer.
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And also the Japanese captain is on the ship with him, and they do not get along.
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Because of soccer.
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And he also is dating the daughter of the admiral.
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Played by Liam Neeson, who has basically a cameo.
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If you cut together all of Liam Neeson's scenes, I'd be surprised if it was more than six minutes.
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Yeah, if you saw the trailer to Battleship, you'd think, oh, this is a Liam Neeson vehicle.
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This is Taylor Kitsch, Liam Neeson.
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He's going to be the young hothead.
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Screw a tall man.
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Not being a tall man.
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If I can describe my Liam Neeson vehicle, the Neeson Mobile.
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Okay, sorry.
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Okay, it's like the truck in Maximum Overdrive.
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Instead of the Green Goblin's face, it's Liam Neeson's face.
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Okay.
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It also shoots out planes.
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Like young, or with a beard?
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Like the gray Liam Neeson.
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Beard, kind of haggard.
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A little bit of blood.
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And it shoots out tiny little cocktail bottles from airplanes, like in the gray.
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And it fights wolves, like in the gray.
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I mean, cars fight wolves anyway.
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He bought it when he made the gray.
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It used to be based around the gray, mainly.
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But there's also other Neeson stuff in.
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Like, you can change the face in the front, like in Darkman.
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And also it saves Jews, like in Schindler's List.
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Sure.
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The Neeson Mobile.
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All right.
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From Nissan.
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The Nissan Neeson Mobile.
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It's a Liam Neeson vehicle.
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But you would have thought that this was a Liam Neeson joint.
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They advertised this as starring Liam Neeson and Rihanna.
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Yeah.
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And Rihanna has a fairly sizable role.
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I don't even remember if they put...
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She has a lot of attitude.
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She's got a lot of sass.
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She's a sass-mobile.
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And there's a lot of shots of her, like, reacting to things with water on her face.
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That's because they're all getting wet, because they're in the ocean.
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Oh, that makes sense.
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So, anyway, this...
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But really, like, the Japanese guy is, like, the second lead in this film.
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He's the hero of the movie, basically.
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Yeah, I mean, he's the confident one.
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So, basically, this ragtag...
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This stuff's like Big Trouble in Little China.
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Exactly.
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There's two ragtag crews.
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It's Big Trouble in Little Hawaii.
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I mean, yeah, I guess it's not on the Big Island, so it is Little Hawaii.
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There's two ragtag crews that have to save the world.
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One is Taylor Kitsch, Rihanna, some other guy from Friday Night Lights that I didn't recognize.
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Jesse Plemons.
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Yeah, Landry, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And Captain Nagata, who's a Japanese guy.
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And the other ragtag crew is Brooklyn Decker playing...
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Is that who that was?
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Yeah, some kind of a busty blonde.
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A busty blonde playing Taylor Kitsch's girlfriend, who's also the daughter of Liam Neeson,
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a double amputee army veteran played by a real double amputee army veteran.
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So show some fucking respect, guys, please.
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Okay.
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And a very irritating, like, overly neurotic nerd, computer scientist...
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Yeah, like a space nerd.
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Who works at...
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Jeff Goldblum type.
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Except, like, Jeff Goldblum...
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But without the sexiness.
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Jeff Goldblum to the power of Jay Baruchel.
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Okay.
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Right.
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And they have to stop the aliens from sending out a message.
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These two ragtag crews each have their thing.
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Now, the aliens blow stuff up by shooting bombs that look like giant pegs
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and then stick into the ships and blow them up.
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That's one of the two battles...
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Wait a minute.
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That reminds me of something.
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Like a game that I once played.
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What was the name of that game?
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Snakes and Ladders.
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No, it wasn't Snakes and Ladders.
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Try again.
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It wasn't Mousetrap either, because that game sucked.
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It wasn't Mousetrap.
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It was a different sucky game.
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Cribbage.
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That has pegs.
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That's...
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No, not Cribbage.
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And not...
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What's that peg game you do in Cracker Barrel?
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Is that Cribbage?
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Oh, like the jump thing where you jump the pegs.
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No, and it wasn't Mastermind.
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That's another game with pegs.
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Okay.
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It wasn't Life where you put the pegs in your car.
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It wasn't the Married with Children board game with Peg Bundy?
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No, it wasn't.
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Is that like a trivia game?
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I have to assume so.
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You get a little extra bonus whenever you're in the toilet flush.
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What does No Ma'am stand for?
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Go.
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No Ma'am.
[17:05]
Yeah, you know, No Ma'am is an organization.
[17:07]
It turned into a church that one time, so we didn't have to pay taxes on it.
[17:10]
I lose.
[17:11]
What does it stand for, Stuart?
[17:12]
I don't remember.
[17:14]
You have defeated the Quizmaster.
[17:15]
It was a bluff.
[17:17]
The rare double bluff.
[17:18]
Answer me these questions three about Married with Children.
[17:21]
Warning, I don't know the answers.
[17:23]
That's why I'm asking you.
[17:25]
Trying to fill out this questionnaire.
[17:27]
This Married with Children questionnaire.
[17:30]
So anyway, the other thing that's like Battleship is that eventually,
[17:35]
after a ton of boring explosions and a lot of yelling,
[17:38]
we're revealed what the aliens look like, which is they look like just dudes.
[17:42]
They look like humans with weird sea anemones on their beards.
[17:45]
Yeah, space beards.
[17:46]
Space beards that basically look like a bunch of toothpicks are stuck in their chin.
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They have four fingers on their hands, and they have eyes like a lizard.
[17:52]
And one of the guys on the ship notices he has a pet lizard,
[17:56]
and that pet lizard doesn't like sunlight very much.
[17:58]
So I guess aliens don't like sunlight either.
[18:00]
So that's a weakness they learn.
[18:02]
It's great logic.
[18:03]
But they basically just dress up like armor like the guys in the Halo video game.
[18:07]
It's the least imaginative alien design you could think of.
[18:11]
And I'm sure they spent hours designing it.
[18:13]
Much like the aliens in Cowboys and Aliens, which they spent hours designing,
[18:16]
but looked incredibly boring.
[18:18]
A lot of boring explosions.
[18:20]
So the other thing that's like the game Battleship,
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and this is where Captain Nagata really shines,
[18:25]
is instead of using their radar because the alien ships don't show up on radar
[18:29]
because of their bullshit technology that is really great until the ships need to lose at the end,
[18:33]
and it stops being powerful,
[18:35]
they use the frequency of different, like what, electro radio buoys in the water,
[18:42]
and they see where...
[18:44]
They're like anti-tsunami weather buoys.
[18:46]
Is that what they are?
[18:47]
Yeah.
[18:48]
And they look at where there are blank shapes where the ships are distorting the electromagnetic field,
[18:53]
and then...
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And they go, A-12!
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Basically, they're like, Romeo, 29, and then they fire a torpedo,
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and if it hits, they go, Hit!
[19:02]
And if it doesn't, they go, Miss!
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And this goes on for probably like seven minutes, but it feels like it's an hour.
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There's a lot of people, shots of people looking at screens.
[19:10]
Yeah, and Rihanna looking at screens especially.
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But like, if there was ever a game...
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Man, I could watch Rihanna look at a phone book.
[19:17]
Am I right, guys?
[19:18]
Yeah.
[19:19]
Really? It sounds boring.
[19:21]
I've got to tell you, Battleship is a boring game.
[19:23]
Yellow pages?
[19:25]
White pages, blue pages, any pages, man.
[19:27]
That's all the pages.
[19:29]
Battleship is a boring game to play, but it is an especially boring game to watch someone play.
[19:34]
Oh, wow, gloves come off.
[19:35]
Gloves come off. I've never liked Battleship. It's a boring game.
[19:37]
Fuck you, Battleship.
[19:38]
And fuck you, Hasbro.
[19:39]
The game is basically guess some numbers.
[19:42]
The only way to make the game interesting is if you cheat by moving your ships between turns
[19:47]
or having the ships so they hang off the board a little bit
[19:50]
so there's part of them that's not within the field of play.
[19:52]
Only way to make it interesting.
[19:54]
So watching these people basically play Battleship is super boring.
[19:57]
But they blow up a bunch of the alien spaceships because we cheated.
[20:00]
reach that this is about an hour and forty minutes into the movie
[20:03]
where it's like okay the humans need to start winning
[20:06]
so the aliens need to stop being invincible and start being total
[20:09]
pushovers for some reason we can blow them up now
[20:12]
yeah to the point that these aliens that have crazy
[20:15]
like rotating metal blades on their hands
[20:18]
can be beaten up by a man with no legs yeah and
[20:22]
that that's something that happens a double amputee gets to do a fistfight with an alien
[20:26]
and wins
[20:27]
and knocks his teeth out yeah he slow motion knocks his teeth out they have the same teeth as us
[20:31]
bullets which so far have they do have the same teeth as us that's a convergent evolution
[20:35]
we're not so different you and I you know
[20:36]
really if we could have bonded over our teeth and
[20:39]
and beards yeah well we our beards are different though they have toothpick
[20:43]
beards we have hair beards oh that makes sense yeah you're right
[20:45]
bullets which didn't seem to affect the alien ships before
[20:49]
now do a ton of damage to them oh man yeah but I skipped over
[20:52]
so they and then their ship gets blown up right they give away their position their ship
[20:55]
gets blown up
[20:56]
they've got to after they like smoke three alien ships yeah
[21:00]
they've got to find a new ship where do they find this ship
[21:04]
well in the beginning we saw Liam Neeson commemorate
[21:07]
a former World War II or Korean War era battleship
[21:11]
as a floating museum it's time to go to the USS Missouri
[21:15]
so they go there but they don't know how to this ship is 60-70 years old
[21:19]
they don't know how to use it there's no computers on it how are they
[21:23]
how are they going to learn to shoot this ship
[21:25]
step one turn on some ACDC
[21:28]
step one turn on Thunderstruck by ACDC there's already probably some old
[21:32]
fucking veterans hanging around because what else are they going to do
[21:35]
you're in luck there are so many old veterans on this ship
[21:38]
it's like they're haunting you there's suddenly a
[21:41]
he looks up and suddenly there's just like old veterans hanging around the
[21:44]
ship like the birds in the playground and the birds
[21:47]
it's like are they ghosts what happened and then a big crew of veterans walks up
[21:52]
I must have missed the part where they sent out an all APB
[21:55]
all alert to call in Navy veterans because they're just suddenly there
[21:58]
we heard there's some aliens need their asses kicked or it's like somebody
[22:02]
somebody pulled off the tinfoil from a
[22:06]
buffet and all these guys come wandering up
[22:09]
they heard that Denny's was starting 30 minutes early for the early bird
[22:14]
or I missed the line in the beginning where they're like now this
[22:17]
battleship instead of fighting for war will be a museum of peace
[22:20]
and also housing for all these homeless Navy veterans
[22:23]
because they're just there hanging around and luckily in a
[22:28]
despite the fact they brought some I guess like toys or like video
[22:32]
what the fuck they bring like a like a crane where you can grab out
[22:36]
there's like carnival games on the ship because they turned it into a museum
[22:39]
they did not in any way remove all of the exploding munitions
[22:42]
they left all that shit. This was now a public place to go to but it's still full of
[22:46]
active shells. Live ammunition. Live ammo. I mean what are you going to do with it? You can't just toss it in the water anymore.
[22:51]
No, of course not. That's against the law. Sharks get pissed. You can't shoot it into space
[22:55]
because the aliens will find it they'll use it against you. Yeah. You can't eat it
[22:58]
it's not edible. You can't give it away as gifts. It's dangerous.
[23:02]
Leave it be. Just leave it on the boat. Leave it there for anyone to hit it with a hammer.
[23:06]
Leave it for the old specters to play with.
[23:09]
And so they refit this ship in about
[23:13]
30 seconds. So you like grizzly faces? You like mustaches?
[23:18]
This is the movie for you guys. And this was the one moment
[23:21]
after the soccer game and the giant metal wheel that just burst through things
[23:26]
that this suddenly was like alright this is a goofy movie again here's some fun
[23:30]
it's just like a lot of old guys. It's basically like
[23:33]
navy cowboys. Old people who have to come out of
[23:37]
retirement to save the world. To fight aliens.
[23:40]
And like have there been any old people versus aliens movies? There have to have been, right?
[23:44]
There's old people and aliens are friends.
[23:48]
And Bubba Hotep is old people versus a mummy.
[23:52]
I mean mummies could be from outer space though. I don't look up to that Stargate.
[23:57]
Yeah that's the thing dude. He's probably a Gwawuld.
[24:00]
That's true. He's probably... yeah that.
[24:03]
So anyway. It's a Gwawuld. That's what they're called. What? Space mummies?
[24:06]
Yes. Space mummies. Spummies?
[24:09]
Let's see. If the movie was Mars Needs Mummies.
[24:13]
I think we would have been eager to help them. Mars Needs Moms. We need those moms.
[24:17]
Mars Needs Mummies. We just got these dusty mummies lying around.
[24:20]
They're gonna steal your breath. Do whatever you want. Grind them up to make aphrodisiac or something.
[24:23]
I don't know Mars. Do what you want with mummies. There's only so many mummy dicks.
[24:26]
Look we don't need them opening their mouths and having hordes of bees or
[24:30]
whatever come out. Let's just send them to Mars. They're scared of beetles dude.
[24:34]
Well whatever they are. Mars could use them for something. I don't know.
[24:37]
Grind them up into aphrodisiac powder. That's all I know what to do with them.
[24:40]
You can only do that with a mummy dick dude.
[24:42]
So what are we going to do with the rest of the mummy?
[24:44]
Shoot it up to Mars. Mars Needs Mummies. Battleship.
[24:48]
Scouring pads. Make scouring pads out of those.
[24:51]
If we're lucky. If we're lucky they're wrapped in random lines from like a missing Aristophanes
[24:57]
classic. Yeah.
[24:58]
You know. Maybe if we're lucky. But otherwise send it to Mars dude.
[25:02]
Just put it on a rover. Ship it up there.
[25:04]
Yeah. Get some good shots of him driving the rover around.
[25:08]
Yeah. It's hilarious.
[25:09]
Talk about seven minutes of terror. A mummy loose on the surface of Mars.
[25:13]
There's a movie. Mars Mummy.
[25:15]
Point is at the end Taylor Kitsch all of a sudden understands how to be an army guy.
[25:22]
Navy guy. Do not make that mistake. They do not like it.
[25:25]
They play a football game against each other every year and they act as if
[25:29]
they're going to kill each other. But he becomes a great. He harnesses
[25:33]
the intelligence and the wiliness that have so far been hidden under layers of goofball screw
[25:37]
up in this and manages to outsmart the aliens. He uses these old armaments to blow them up
[25:43]
because I guess the lesson is the Navy stopped making good stuff a while back
[25:47]
and now has just a lot of weak stuff. And also that I guess these alien ships
[25:51]
degrade rapidly when they're on the planet because they fight this giant ship in the
[25:57]
end and like they destroy it. They just.
[25:59]
Yeah. Hammer it so hard.
[26:01]
Like it shoots their ship once and they're like oh whatever.
[26:03]
They also blow up the array which leaves them vulnerable.
[26:07]
By then they've they've gotten rid of the force field.
[26:09]
Yeah. And there are other and other ragtag group has so far failed to do anything.
[26:13]
But they they use the last they use the last shell on the ship to blow up the satellite array.
[26:19]
This knocks out the force field somehow even though the force field was independent of
[26:23]
the satellite array earlier and the fighter and Liam Neeson goes get all these jets in
[26:28]
the air and the fighter jets save them. No they had already knocked out the force.
[26:31]
They knocked out the force. Then they blew up the array.
[26:33]
Look they blow up so many satellite dishes. I don't remember.
[26:36]
And the JV squad which was Brooklyn Decker the guy without legs and the annoying guy.
[26:41]
Yeah. They did do something.
[26:43]
They managed to knock the teeth out of one alien.
[26:45]
They delayed. They delayed.
[26:47]
They delayed one alien from doing nothing. The rest of the guys were like fuck it let's
[26:51]
just keep working. Just keep working.
[26:53]
Look we got a quota to meet. We got like blades on our arms.
[26:56]
They're probably going to fuck that. He's going to fuck those guys.
[26:57]
That guy was always a dick. Let's let him get his teeth.
[27:00]
He's so proud of his perfect teeth. Let's let that guy knock his teeth out.
[27:04]
You know what I'm tired of hearing.
[27:06]
I'm just tired of hearing Glebe Glorp brag about his face teeth.
[27:11]
We get it. He's got beautiful choppers.
[27:13]
Not so pretty now are they Glebe Glorp. Have a taste of your own medicine tooth asshole.
[27:20]
Yeah. These shaved monkeys really knock that shit out of your teeth.
[27:23]
I wanted to mention that Taylor Kitsch and the Japanese guy use sniper rifles to shoot
[27:29]
out the windows of the command deck of the alien ship and the sunlight blinds them.
[27:33]
Blinds the aliens. It's one of those things where it's like wow that space glass is pretty weak.
[27:37]
So it made it through the atmosphere I guess okay.
[27:40]
But you can shoot it out with a regular sniper rifle.
[27:41]
Regular sheets of glass there. And I guess and apparently tinted glass
[27:46]
because that's how they shoot it out and then they can kill them vampire style.
[27:49]
Well they are because their helmets have tinted glass. They established that.
[27:52]
But I guess it's and they also don't want people outside seeing them inside.
[27:57]
Oh yeah. They could be having sex in there. Come on.
[27:59]
Probably. That's what you do in tinted glass cars right.
[28:03]
Yeah. What do they do with their space beards.
[28:05]
Yeah. They they rub space beards together.
[28:07]
Sure. So they've saved the day.
[28:11]
We've learned the valuable lesson that America.
[28:12]
So the climax is over like super fast right.
[28:15]
Yes. Yeah.
[28:16]
After a bunch of fucking delay. Well after yeah after.
[28:19]
It takes a while. Two hours of nonsense.
[28:21]
Well they oh that's what they blow up the last ship and that's it's over.
[28:25]
Yeah it just cuts to metal ceremony.
[28:27]
Yep. Chewbacca's.
[28:29]
Chewbacca finally gets his metal. R2-D2 you know rocks back and forth.
[28:33]
We've learned the valuable lesson that Americans and Japanese people can work together.
[28:37]
We don't have to be enemies. Even though the movie opens with a joint
[28:40]
U.S. Japanese Navy exercise. It takes the main characters the whole movie to realize.
[28:44]
You mean Rim Pack?
[28:45]
Rim Pack. Yeah. The specific rim command.
[28:49]
Rim Pack.
[28:50]
Rim Pack.
[28:52]
Finally the characters the end you know what we're not so different when you compare us to aliens.
[28:56]
Well you have human teeth.
[28:57]
And the aliens are pretty similar.
[28:59]
Except for their weird hands and their eyeballs.
[29:01]
Yeah I mean they're really boring. They just look like old men.
[29:03]
Sea urchin beards.
[29:05]
Yeah. The aforementioned space beards.
[29:07]
They get medals. He gets they they give a shout out to Stonehopper for dying in the line of duty.
[29:13]
No mention is made.
[29:14]
No mention is made of all the other people who died in the line of duty.
[29:17]
They're not cool.
[29:17]
In fact those guys didn't have a cool name like Stonehopper.
[29:20]
Taylor Kitchhopper gets the silver star.
[29:22]
And finally this is the moment all the movie he's been trying to work up the courage
[29:27]
to ask Liam Neeson for his daughter's hand in marriage.
[29:30]
But he keeps screwing the moment up.
[29:32]
Finally and he gets the courage.
[29:33]
Now's the time.
[29:34]
Shirley as the savior of the human race.
[29:36]
The world from aliens.
[29:37]
And he says I'd like to ask permission to marry your daughter.
[29:41]
Which is not how you do it.
[29:43]
I don't know if you guys called up your wife's father.
[29:45]
I did not.
[29:46]
I did not use the word permission.
[29:47]
I said I'd like to request your daughter's hand in marriage.
[29:50]
And my father in law said well what would you do if I said no.
[29:54]
And I said probably marry her anyway.
[29:56]
And he and you know he had a hearty laugh.
[29:58]
And you said that and then lit a.
[30:00]
lit a match on your cheek. Lit a match, threw it in the background, gas station exploded, I walked away slowly.
[30:06]
But he, and then Liam Neeson says,
[30:08]
no.
[30:09]
And then they have a laugh about it and they go off to eat a chicken burrito.
[30:12]
Remember that? Call back.
[30:15]
Then there's the end credits and then there's a post-credits scene
[30:19]
where some kids in Scotland find a big lump of space junk
[30:22]
and they burn it open and then an alien hand comes out at the end.
[30:27]
Oh, so that alien junk turns out that there's an actual alien in it that we kind of assumed as soon as we saw it there, right?
[30:34]
Yes, and we're supposed to be scared that one alien is there,
[30:37]
even though thousands of aliens, it seems, or at least dozens, have just been destroyed.
[30:42]
Yeah, and the one guy without legs totally fucked up that one alien.
[30:46]
Yeah.
[30:46]
And that was like a big, like a boss alien.
[30:48]
That was a big alien, yeah.
[30:49]
It was not like a whole game boss, but definitely like a level boss.
[30:53]
Yeah, exactly.
[30:54]
So, Stuart, what made this movie so amazing?
[30:58]
I will say there was one, there were a couple lines I liked in it.
[31:01]
One line, they're talking about the art of war and Taylor Kitsch is like,
[31:04]
I read that, doesn't make any sense.
[31:06]
Attack your enemy where he's not.
[31:07]
How do you explain that?
[31:08]
And Captain Nogata goes, that's Chinese book, not Japanese.
[31:11]
And at the end, he does a stupid trick on the aliens and he goes,
[31:15]
attack the enemy where they're not.
[31:17]
I get it.
[31:17]
It suddenly just clicked and Captain Nogata says, that's not what that means.
[31:21]
That's completely different.
[31:22]
And he goes, what?
[31:24]
We're like, really?
[31:25]
And that's the end of that scene.
[31:26]
But anyway, you're saying, Stuart, what made the movie amazing?
[31:29]
Yeah.
[31:29]
Because you loved it, right?
[31:30]
The whole time you were on the edge of your seat.
[31:32]
I was clapping my hands.
[31:32]
Cheering, going, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[31:34]
There was a lot of good.
[31:35]
I like the part where they show that they fished an alien,
[31:39]
a dead alien body out of the ocean and they're looking at it for a while.
[31:43]
And then the alien, oh no, wow, it's alive.
[31:45]
And it starts wrestling with them.
[31:46]
And then the wall explodes and a bunch of aliens show up,
[31:50]
take their buddy and just leave.
[31:53]
I mean, that leads into an interesting middle part of the movie.
[31:58]
I'd like to hear their story.
[32:00]
Alien Team Six or whatever.
[32:02]
Alien Team Glorp.
[32:04]
There's a whole middle section of the movie where the aliens have decided
[32:08]
that Taylor Kitsch's battleship is not worth fucking with.
[32:11]
Yeah, they target it and then he turns the ship around.
[32:14]
Yeah, he turns the ship around and turns the guns off or whatever.
[32:17]
And they're like, OK, well, not a threat anymore.
[32:19]
But then later on, they like send in like individual aliens to cause chaos on a ship.
[32:24]
It's like, why not just shoot the fucker down if you're going to be toying with him?
[32:27]
It's a game of cat and alien or I guess alien and mouse.
[32:30]
But also, you know, I think cat and alien aliens eat cats, right?
[32:34]
Yeah. Alf did. That's true.
[32:35]
Good point. Very well.
[32:38]
Can you who are you not familiar with?
[32:40]
Gordon Shumway, the alien life form.
[32:42]
Oh, OK, that makes sense.
[32:43]
We'll talk about that later.
[32:44]
Cat eating rock and roll loving party animal alien.
[32:48]
Whose alcoholism was so harsh in the first season
[32:51]
that they dialed it back for later episodes.
[32:53]
It's like a like a book, like a like a series of novels.
[32:55]
It's like a book you watch on television.
[32:57]
We call it a television show. Oh, OK.
[33:00]
It's on nowadays, right? On Lifetime?
[33:02]
No, it's been off the air for about 20 years.
[33:04]
Lifetime is a story for women.
[33:08]
That's on what? The the Oxygen Network?
[33:09]
Yeah, it's about it's about an abusive alien husband.
[33:14]
It's called the burning bed on the spaceship.
[33:17]
Mother, may I sleep with aliens?
[33:19]
Ancient aliens.
[33:21]
So the aliens, when they look at things,
[33:23]
they have kind of like a Terminator targeting array that differentiates
[33:27]
between organic and non-organic materials because they look at a person
[33:31]
and they'll see it has eyes.
[33:32]
It has that heart, lungs, not worth our trouble.
[33:35]
Then it'll look at like a wall or a wire and that will come up red on the display.
[33:40]
And they're like, we'll attack that.
[33:41]
Yeah, the spinning death balls do that.
[33:43]
Yeah, it didn't attack people, but it would attack guns, cars,
[33:47]
helicopters, highway ramps.
[33:49]
I like the bit where the spinning death ball.
[33:52]
It looks like it just barely misses the helicopter
[33:54]
and then it lashes out its chain tail and rips the helicopter in half.
[33:58]
And then it pauses just long enough to like wink at the camera
[34:02]
before driving off to kill more shit.
[34:03]
That chain ball had more personality than most of the characters in the movie.
[34:09]
I'm telling you, you got Taylor.
[34:10]
But that guy was a veteran of of, you know, wars, man.
[34:16]
No, the other guy, the guy that you're making fun of, the guy without his legs.
[34:19]
He's a veteran.
[34:20]
He had personality.
[34:21]
I'm not talking about him.
[34:23]
I don't know.
[34:24]
I'm talking about like here, the personality or Rihanna.
[34:26]
I mean, she's out of her element here.
[34:28]
Well, here's the thing.
[34:29]
She's normally a singer.
[34:30]
She's normally and now she's fighting aliens.
[34:31]
And that's true.
[34:33]
That is out of her element.
[34:34]
It's rare that a singer gets to do that.
[34:36]
Basically, Debbie Gibson and Pat Vanatar.
[34:38]
And that's it.
[34:40]
David Bowie was an alien.
[34:42]
Yeah, they were the alien.
[34:43]
That was the alien they were fighting.
[34:44]
So I guess maybe he was.
[34:45]
I mean, to him, humans are aliens.
[34:47]
And he was always fighting humans, right?
[34:48]
Yeah, that's true.
[34:49]
Well, he and now he was a spider from Mars.
[34:51]
He came to Earth to get mummies.
[34:54]
We thought he was saying mommies.
[34:55]
We don't want to give up our moms.
[34:56]
No. So we sent him packing.
[34:58]
Yeah. Then he did that terrible dance in the streets cover
[35:01]
with that crazy video with Mick Jagger.
[35:03]
It all makes sense now.
[35:04]
The pieces are falling into place.
[35:07]
And then he turned into Tilda Swinton.
[35:08]
Now, here's the other thing about this movie.
[35:11]
Something we were talking about during while watching it was that
[35:14]
the movie Aliens, Jim Cameron's Aliens, great movie,
[35:19]
does such a good job of introducing these military characters,
[35:22]
giving them character that is both down to earth and believable,
[35:26]
also interesting and charismatic, and then setting them up to fight aliens.
[35:31]
They try to do that in this movie and they fail so totally.
[35:34]
And I can't put my finger on why exactly they fail.
[35:36]
And they take a million years to do it.
[35:38]
Yeah. And it takes forever to set these guys up.
[35:41]
Why, Dan, why do you think they fit?
[35:42]
Why do you think these characters come alive?
[35:44]
I do. I do not know.
[35:45]
But I will say like they do.
[35:47]
You're right in that they spend
[35:50]
40 minutes in this movie before aliens show up.
[35:53]
And it's not like this is not, you know, building suspense.
[35:57]
This is not careful world building.
[35:59]
40 minutes like, oh, when these aliens show up, it's going to be
[36:02]
it's going to blow the audience's mind.
[36:03]
This is 40 minutes wasted on thievering burritos.
[36:08]
And that's the best part.
[36:10]
That is the best part.
[36:12]
But it's not telling you if it was a movie about burrito
[36:15]
thieving with explosions in the background, it would be much better.
[36:18]
It was called Burrito Thief based on the game.
[36:20]
It would have been much better.
[36:21]
But that's the thing is the scenes that come to life in this movie
[36:24]
are the scenes that are so inessential that if they got cut,
[36:27]
you really wouldn't notice.
[36:29]
But except the movie would be less enjoyable.
[36:31]
But like they take so long to explain the concept of aliens attacking Earth,
[36:36]
something that they've been making movies about for.
[36:38]
I mean, it's been in a staple of literature for 100 years at least.
[36:41]
When did War of the Worlds come out?
[36:42]
You know, it's one of those big ensemble action movies where
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they have all these characters and they need to make sure
[36:50]
that all these characters have about one or two
[36:54]
like five or 10 minute character moments to lead up to them,
[36:58]
I guess, fighting an alien, dying or not dying, basically.
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And it just makes it so like it just becomes so bloated and unnecessary.
[37:06]
But that's how that's how it reaches two hours and 11 minutes.
[37:09]
But even those character moments are usually just kind of like
[37:12]
there are two types, either characters, a total goof or they're really sassy.
[37:16]
Yeah. And that's about it.
[37:18]
No, I mean, they're not actual character moments.
[37:20]
It's not like we're watching fucking USA or something.
[37:23]
Mm hmm. Well, yeah, it's
[37:26]
we're watching a guy like berate his coworker for not giving him information
[37:31]
in the fashion that he likes it or something like, yeah, it's not important.
[37:35]
They can cut the scene out.
[37:37]
Yeah, I think we should move on to our final judgments on this movie,
[37:39]
whether it was a good, bad movie, a bad, bad movie, a movie we kind of liked.
[37:43]
Elliot, we have to say we're going to like me.
[37:45]
First, four stars out of 100.
[37:49]
No, it's a movie that unusual rating system.
[37:51]
I'm going to this movie. It was like, did I have any hope I was going to like it?
[37:54]
No, of course not. It's Battleship, the movie.
[37:56]
It's another stupid alien invasion movie.
[37:58]
I like alien stories. This one looked no good.
[38:01]
But the first look, no good.
[38:04]
The first couple scenes had the promise that it could be a good, bad movie
[38:08]
because it was like silly.
[38:09]
It didn't take itself too seriously.
[38:11]
The characters did crazy stuff.
[38:12]
And then it just went downhill and became so dull.
[38:15]
So I'm going to say bad, bad movie. Sorry, Peter Berg.
[38:19]
What about you, Stuart? Yeah, I'll agree with you.
[38:21]
I think I think if they had chopped about two hours,
[38:25]
they got two hours out of this movie.
[38:28]
It's I mean, it has the problem that a lot of these these big movies have where
[38:32]
just there's this huge middle section that doesn't like the action sequences
[38:36]
don't make up for it.
[38:37]
I think it's the same problem that we had with Cowboys and Aliens, right?
[38:40]
Yeah. If they let's get this serious, guys, this is Cowboys and Aliens.
[38:43]
Bad, right? Yeah. Yeah.
[38:45]
Which is not which it means had potential, but didn't didn't live up to it
[38:48]
and was boring because they just had a ton of potential.
[38:51]
It's a great game.
[38:52]
Burrito Thief is a huge seller.
[38:55]
Here's the potential that Battleship had.
[38:57]
It's been a long time since we've seen a naval warfare movie.
[39:00]
I would say when was the last time they really did one
[39:03]
that was not a pirate movie, 20, 30 years.
[39:06]
Yeah, at least easy.
[39:08]
It would be a lot of fun to see like a really well-made World War
[39:10]
Two naval battle movie or even a modern day naval battle movie.
[39:14]
But instead, they had to bring aliens and shit into it and transforming stuff
[39:18]
because they're working off of that Transformers template
[39:21]
that is currently ruining the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie
[39:23]
while we speak in production now or in pre-production.
[39:26]
But it's just like Alien Turtles. No, thank you.
[39:31]
The but it definitely could have lost at least 30 minutes out of the movie.
[39:35]
So Cowboys and Aliens could have lost like 20, 25.
[39:38]
This could have lost anywhere from 30 to 40, you know.
[39:41]
Yeah, I would say that if this movie was only the first 40 minutes
[39:44]
in the last 20, it might be a good, bad movie.
[39:47]
I mean, then it would be an hour long.
[39:48]
Yeah, and that would be a great link for this story.
[39:51]
Perfect. But otherwise, yeah, it was a bad, bad movie.
[39:55]
And it bored me.
[39:56]
Yeah, just make it into an episode of Amazing Stories.
[40:00]
There's a lot of money in that, right? No. High-budget Amazing Stories episodes.
[40:05]
Amazing Stories episodes that cost $200 million each.
[40:09]
Before we get into letters, I think that we should maybe briefly get into the big announcement that's coming up in the flop house world.
[40:17]
Is it time to make that announcement?
[40:19]
I think we're clear to at least make reference to it.
[40:22]
So our big announcement is we're doing a live show next week in Williamsburg.
[40:27]
That is a big announcement, though. September 19th, we are doing a live discussion show.
[40:31]
We won't be screening a movie, but we're doing a panel within coordination and also appearing on the panel.
[40:36]
Xenia and Matt of I Love Bad Movies, our favorite zine.
[40:39]
That's September 19th at Free Assembly in Williamsburg.
[40:41]
Yeah, if you go to www.flophousepodcast.com, there's links, I feel like.
[40:48]
And it is a free event, right?
[40:49]
Yeah, it's totally free.
[40:51]
21 plus, guys, 21 plus.
[40:53]
21 plus only because they serve beer better.
[40:55]
He doesn't want to get tricked into oogling the wrong girls.
[40:57]
No, I mean, I'll ogle them, but I just don't –
[41:00]
He doesn't want to get tricked into sleeping with them.
[41:02]
Yeah.
[41:03]
She told me she was 21 plus.
[41:05]
Some kind of a gaslighting where they trick him out of his inheritance.
[41:08]
And we are going to do a screening later in the year, too, but we will announce that.
[41:12]
Yeah, but because this is midway through September and there's a big announcement of this launch October 1st, it seems like –
[41:19]
Oh, should we wait until October 1st then?
[41:21]
Yeah, that makes sense.
[41:24]
But once that happens, we're part of the thing.
[41:27]
We can't edit this out.
[41:28]
Yeah, but if we're – this may be something to edit out.
[41:31]
If we're part of the thing and they're announcing October 1st, they might not want us to step on their announcement.
[41:36]
Maybe let's get in touch with them and see if it's okay to announce it ahead of time because we're recording again the week after next.
[41:43]
All right.
[41:44]
Well, there's a mysterious thing.
[41:46]
I think you could probably cut all this section out except for the part about September 19th.
[41:50]
No, no.
[41:51]
The voter voting racist thing.
[41:52]
No.
[41:53]
Well, we have –
[41:54]
We're cutting out all that.
[41:55]
Well, there will be some –
[41:56]
I don't have time to cut this, Elliot.
[41:57]
We're going to go to –
[41:58]
We're going live.
[41:59]
We're going to Colorado and then L.A. this weekend.
[42:01]
Oh, that's true.
[42:02]
We're traveling.
[42:03]
Well, we will have a big announcement that's in coordination with some other folks, so we're going to check with them and see if it's okay to announce it yet.
[42:09]
But we do have a big announcement coming up.
[42:11]
And it's not really going to change anything.
[42:13]
That's right.
[42:14]
Sue Ellington is getting married.
[42:16]
It's also exciting.
[42:18]
If it is an exciting announcement.
[42:20]
But until then, tide yourself over on September 19th with our discussion show at Public Assembly in Williamsburg.
[42:27]
Where we won't be talking about our big announcement.
[42:29]
Where we won't be talking about our big announcement.
[42:31]
We will be having fun with you, the listener.
[42:34]
So now it's time to move on to the Flophouse Mailbag.
[42:37]
This is the part where we read letters that you send us in and make fun of you maybe.
[42:41]
Normally I would sing a song about it, but we're running out of time, so let's do this thing.
[42:44]
So this one's titled Name Dropping for Fun and Profit.
[42:47]
And it's from Patrick, last name withheld.
[42:49]
Oh, we're not going to drop that name, huh, Patrick?
[42:51]
He says, Dear Floppers, I can't help noticing the value you all place on name dropping.
[42:56]
For instance, Elliot can't stop talking about his high school girlfriend, Anne Hathaway.
[43:01]
I never talk about her. It was not my girlfriend.
[43:03]
So I think it's only appropriate that I do a little name dropping in order to get a mention on a podcast with upwards of hundreds of listeners.
[43:11]
We have plenty of listeners.
[43:12]
Elliot, especially, prepare to meet your heart out. Eat your heart out.
[43:15]
I am the grandson of mildly famous actor Eddie Bracken.
[43:19]
Oh, I'm a big fan of Eddie Bracken.
[43:21]
Yes, that Eddie Bracken from Miracle of Morgan's Creek, Hail to the Hot Conquering Hero, and most importantly, not most importantly, National Lampoon's Vacation.
[43:30]
I saw him on stage in a production of Carousel at the Paper Mill Playhouse years ago. I was very excited.
[43:35]
I'm a big fan of Eddie Bracken. Nice to meet you, Patrick Bracken.
[43:38]
Maybe.
[43:39]
Question mark.
[43:41]
I'm sure you're interested in the hours of in-depth behind the scenes.
[43:44]
You know what? He lived in New Jersey not far from where I grew up, and I kick myself all the time that I was too old.
[43:51]
It wasn't until I was old enough to think of going and trying to get in touch with him.
[43:56]
He was too old, and he had passed away at that point, but sad really. I wish I had gotten to know Eddie Bracken.
[44:01]
Well, you were about to through the miracle of this email.
[44:04]
The miracle of this Morgan's Creek email?
[44:06]
He says, I'm sure you're interested in the hours of in-depth behind the scenes anecdotes I could share.
[44:12]
Unfortunately, I was foolishly more interested in proving to my grandfather that I loved him for who he was, not for his profession.
[44:19]
So I failed to ask him much about his Hollywood life.
[44:22]
There are, however, some tidbits I can share with you.
[44:25]
That was a weird moment.
[44:26]
I'm sure you will find these fascinating.
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Number one, Judy Garland was not always sober.
[44:33]
Number two, Mickey Rooney was kind of a womanizer.
[44:37]
Number three, Betty Davis was a bitch.
[44:41]
You're welcome, floppers. Keep up the great work.
[44:43]
Wait a minute.
[44:44]
So there you go.
[44:45]
So Eddie Bracken told you the most famous things about those people.
[44:49]
Is it possible he didn't know anything?
[44:51]
That Eddie Bracken didn't know any Eddie Bracken stories?
[44:54]
I don't think he's actually related to Eddie Bracken.
[44:56]
He just looked on the internet for himself.
[44:58]
I would be so betrayed if someone claimed to be Eddie Bracken's grandson and was not.
[45:03]
I'm such a big Eddie Bracken fan.
[45:05]
You're snacking on Bracken.
[45:09]
I don't know what that means.
[45:11]
That was when he came out with the Bracken bar.
[45:13]
It was chocolate around peanut, and then there was some of his own skin in the center.
[45:18]
Oh, that's delicious.
[45:19]
That came out around World War II when nougat was really highly rationed.
[45:23]
They couldn't get nougat, so they replaced it with Eddie Bracken's skin cells.
[45:27]
It was the Bracken bar, and he would say, you're snacking on Bracken.
[45:30]
Who would he say that to?
[45:32]
Just people in the street?
[45:33]
Advertisers, newsreels, or people on the streets.
[45:35]
Sure.
[45:36]
I mean, that's pretty advertising.
[45:37]
He did live on Cannibal Island, so he would say that to people there, too.
[45:41]
Is that New Jersey?
[45:42]
Yes, Cannibal Island.
[45:43]
It's not actually an island.
[45:45]
So, Eddie Bracken.
[45:48]
This one is titled, What Are You Guys Doing?
[45:51]
It's from David Lassner.
[45:54]
Come on, Einstein.
[45:56]
Answer that one and next letter.
[46:00]
Way to observe reality, Sir Francis Bacon.
[46:03]
This one is from David, last name withheld.
[46:05]
He says,
[46:06]
It's not my brother, is it?
[46:07]
Dear Eloquent Elliot, Salacious Stew, and Dashing Dan,
[46:11]
I was re-listening to some older episodes of The Flophouse,
[46:13]
and I noticed a disturbing trend over the past few years.
[46:17]
Lately, when you need a guest host, Dan or Elliot grab another writer from The Daily Show
[46:21]
and bring them on for the podcast.
[46:23]
But it's a different writer every time.
[46:25]
None of them seems willing or able to return for a second guest host outing.
[46:29]
They don't want to come back.
[46:30]
Are the movies just too much for them?
[46:32]
Is Dan's Apartment such a horror show that they won't return?
[46:35]
Yes.
[46:36]
Are you guys driving them off with your obscene behavior and tuxedo speedos?
[46:39]
Possibly.
[46:40]
Or is there something more sinister occurring as you work your way through Daily Show writers one by one?
[46:45]
That's from David, last name withheld.
[46:48]
Is he implying that we are murdering my co-workers and your co-workers?
[46:51]
It's like a Body Snatchers thing.
[46:53]
Body Snatchers?
[46:54]
Yeah, they're coming over and we're, like, turning them into fucking mummies or something and sending them back out.
[46:59]
And we're keeping their original bodies.
[47:01]
I don't know, for food or something?
[47:03]
Well, it makes sense to me.
[47:05]
Officers, arrest us.
[47:11]
I don't know.
[47:12]
We like to mix it up, you know?
[47:14]
The simple answer is we try and cast a wide net.
[47:18]
Not everyone wants to come and watch a bad movie and then talk about it more than once.
[47:24]
And it's a weeknight. It's like a school night.
[47:26]
It's usually a weeknight, and we've been trying to schedule it lately so all three of us are available so we don't have to get subs.
[47:31]
Yeah, not to get into, like, the boring, like, actual nuts and bolts.
[47:34]
Too late.
[47:35]
You asked for it, David.
[47:37]
Here's the not-joke answer, which is, number one, that we have had repeat people.
[47:43]
We had Juvenon twice.
[47:44]
And number two, we've asked people on as a repeat person.
[47:47]
We asked Hallie back, but she's been busy.
[47:49]
Other people have lives.
[47:50]
They're not just raring to go for the flop house.
[47:54]
Me? I'm raring.
[47:55]
Stuart's always raring to go.
[47:57]
Whether it's to go to the flop house or go to the park, we're actually taking him to the vet.
[48:01]
He thinks he's going to the park.
[48:04]
Hey, Stu, shaking your leash?
[48:05]
Okay, where are we going?
[48:07]
The park.
[48:08]
Oh, that's cool.
[48:09]
Actually, the vet.
[48:10]
Should I bring my bag of toys with me?
[48:11]
No.
[48:13]
Bring your rectum and make sure it's thermometer-available.
[48:16]
Okay, I'll get some baby wipes and clean it out.
[48:20]
He's going to the vet.
[48:21]
Anyway, Dan, you're saying?
[48:23]
A little bit of improv comedy for you, Dan.
[48:26]
We did that one for you.
[48:29]
Sorry.
[48:30]
Whose line is it anyway, guys?
[48:31]
That's what that was.
[48:33]
Give us another suggestion, Dan, so we can improv a scene off it.
[48:36]
Okay.
[48:37]
Well, this suggestion is titled boring.
[48:41]
Oh, so they saw Battleship, too.
[48:43]
Boom.
[48:44]
Yeah.
[48:45]
That's a high five for you guys.
[48:47]
Take that to thousands of people who worked on Battleship.
[48:51]
This one's from Joel, last name withheld, and he says,
[48:54]
Hi, floppers.
[48:55]
I've enjoyed listening to the podcast.
[48:57]
I've observed that your final judgments can be boiled down to one criterion.
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If it's boring, it's bad.
[49:03]
A movie can be ineptly plotted, insultingly directed, and the actors can be either wooden or Nick Cajian.
[49:10]
And you guys will give it a pass or at least consider it.
[49:13]
But if there's a moment of dullness in the approximately 82-minute running time, that's the kiss of death.
[49:18]
This thing was 132 minutes.
[49:20]
Not that I disagree.
[49:22]
A boring movie usually does suck.
[49:23]
I'm just pointing out that your final judgment is really, is this boring?
[49:27]
Which leads me to my movie nerd question.
[49:30]
Can you name some dull movies that you actually like?
[49:33]
I'd hold up things like Bergman's Winter Light or The Passion of Joan of Arc
[49:37]
as films that are objectively dull, but I like them a lot.
[49:40]
On a wholly unrelated note, have any of you seen Tucker and Dale vs. Evil?
[49:43]
A rare film that's a horror comedy satire that's genuinely funny.
[49:46]
I'll answer the second question first.
[49:48]
I saw that movie.
[49:50]
Enjoyed it.
[49:51]
Not quite as much as I would like, but it's solid.
[49:54]
Because you really like to enjoy things.
[49:57]
I like to enjoy things.
[49:58]
Yeah, Dan hates to not enjoy stuff.
[50:00]
He hates sighing.
[50:01]
This podcast has taught us anything.
[50:04]
It's how much I like to enjoy stuff.
[50:06]
I haven't seen that yet, but I'd like to.
[50:08]
It's on my Netflix queue.
[50:09]
So dull movies, like what?
[50:11]
Like Spaceballs?
[50:12]
I think he's right.
[50:13]
There are definitely dull movies that I like.
[50:14]
I mean, I enjoy a lot of the Craymaster movies,
[50:17]
which are deathly dull.
[50:18]
Those are incredibly boring, but interesting.
[50:21]
I mean, but that's the question.
[50:23]
There's a difference between dull and slow,
[50:25]
or dull and uneventful.
[50:28]
There is, but those movies many times are boring.
[50:30]
But there's a kind of boring movie that accumulates over time
[50:35]
to the point where even if it's dull for a moment,
[50:38]
the end result is you feel like you've experienced something.
[50:41]
Tree of Life, for instance, was a movie I enjoyed a lot,
[50:44]
and there were a lot of moments in it that I thought were incredibly powerful.
[50:47]
But there were also moments that felt necessary to the movie that were very boring.
[50:51]
And at the end of the movie, I felt like I had been through this experience,
[50:54]
but there were definitely points during it where I found it dull.
[50:57]
But dull for a reason.
[50:58]
But then there are movies like Battleship, where it's both boring,
[51:01]
and at the end of it, I have gained nothing.
[51:03]
But, I mean, there's like a certain deliberateness to movies
[51:09]
that doesn't necessarily mean dullness.
[51:11]
Like it means that there are...
[51:12]
No, yeah, but sometimes it means it's dull.
[51:14]
Okay.
[51:15]
I would argue, I guess, with the point of there's a slowness that can be, you know,
[51:24]
it's not exciting, but you understand what the movie's doing,
[51:29]
like why that is happening.
[51:31]
Yeah.
[51:32]
Like, I don't know, people talk about...
[51:34]
Like dull versus deliberate?
[51:36]
Yeah, exactly.
[51:37]
You can't spell deliberate without dull.
[51:39]
Deliberate.
[51:41]
Like Tokyo Story by Ozu, for instance, is like an acknowledged classic
[51:45]
that is a slow movie where not a lot happens in the traditional plot sense.
[51:51]
I don't know, it's built up of incident.
[51:52]
I guess that's true, but...
[51:54]
Well, like he mentioned Passion of Joan of Arc, which I do not find dull at all.
[51:57]
Like that's an exciting movie to me.
[51:59]
This woman is in constant anxiety and trauma through the whole movie.
[52:04]
And then, you know, she gets burned to death at the end.
[52:06]
Spoiler alert, they don't save Joan of Arc at the end of the movie.
[52:09]
Well, that's too bad.
[52:10]
But I think that when we talk about dullness,
[52:12]
often what we're talking about when we talk about dullness
[52:15]
is we're watching a movie that is making no interesting choices throughout the film.
[52:20]
Like it is making, at every step, the choice that we have seen in other movies before.
[52:27]
Maybe, yeah. That's a factor to it.
[52:30]
I mean, just taking Battleship today as a case study,
[52:37]
the stuff we liked at the beginning we enjoyed just because it was unexpected.
[52:42]
We did not expect there to be a lot about stealing a chicken burrito
[52:46]
at the beginning of an intergalactic war movie.
[52:49]
And then in the middle of the movie, it was just so much of explosions,
[52:52]
and there was no reason to sympathize with any of the characters.
[52:56]
Like nothing – there was only the most perfunctory personality building of all that.
[53:02]
So it was just like, OK, well, this is one choice after another I've seen in alien invasion movies before.
[53:08]
And maybe if I was watching this movie in 1930, I would be thrilled.
[53:12]
But now it's dull.
[53:13]
Well, you'd just be amazed the movie is in color.
[53:15]
Yeah.
[53:16]
All those special effects.
[53:17]
You've just seen – 1930, King Kong isn't even out yet.
[53:20]
1930, you would be amazed that hip-hop R&B star Rihanna is starring in a movie.
[53:27]
Really? She's moving into film, huh?
[53:29]
Not that umbrella song?
[53:31]
Umbrella, ella, ella, my umbrella.
[53:34]
Yep, hit star Rihanna.
[53:36]
That's my 1930s guy who's a fan of Rihanna.
[53:39]
Oh, that's what you were doing. That makes sense.
[53:41]
Yeah.
[53:42]
She's my favorite Negress singer.
[53:44]
It's the 30s. They're racist then.
[53:46]
Yeah, now I'm uncomfortable.
[53:48]
Yeah, I don't know. I like slow movies.
[53:51]
But, yeah, I think you're right.
[53:53]
There's a difference between slow and dull.
[53:55]
I think there is, but sometimes movies are dull.
[53:58]
And a lot of the ones we watch are dull.
[54:00]
But the ones we watch are dull in a bad way, yeah.
[54:02]
Yeah.
[54:03]
Like Battleship is not necessarily a slow movie.
[54:06]
There's always something happening.
[54:07]
There's always something happening.
[54:08]
The camera's always cutting.
[54:09]
There's always explosions or guys giving one-liners.
[54:12]
The soundtrack keeps changing.
[54:14]
They play most of the song Thunderstruck, which is an exciting song.
[54:18]
But it's put together in a boring way.
[54:21]
But that's why I argue that dullness is actually an uninteresting choice being made.
[54:26]
Like if we're seeing something new on screen, something that is not the typical.
[54:32]
Like if someone acts unexpected and human.
[54:34]
You've become desensitized to most things.
[54:36]
Yeah, I have.
[54:37]
I've seen so many movies that everything seems so diagrammatic.
[54:41]
And dull to me means like, okay, this is just like fucking – this is a spare parts movie.
[54:46]
They went to the junkyard of movies and they put together a bunch of pieces.
[54:50]
I think I saw that when I watched Real Steel.
[54:52]
I guess, but there's still movies that I've seen where they make not the choices I would expect, but it's still boring.
[54:59]
Well, like Days of Heaven is a movie like that where it's the choice for most directors would be to focus on the story.
[55:08]
Whereas his choice there is to pay as little attention to the plot of his movie as possible.
[55:12]
The plot is still going on in the background, but he's not interested.
[55:15]
And it's beautiful, but it's very boring.
[55:17]
Whereas I would argue that Days of Heaven is not boring.
[55:19]
No, I find it so boring.
[55:21]
I like that movie.
[55:22]
And I'm not a fan.
[55:23]
Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
[55:24]
But it's a movie.
[55:26]
Well, is it a movie?
[55:28]
Days of Thunder?
[55:29]
What?
[55:30]
Let's move on in that case to our final – or not final judgments.
[55:33]
We just did that.
[55:34]
We all said great movie.
[55:35]
We all loved it.
[55:36]
We said it's our pick of the year.
[55:37]
We said best picture, Battleship.
[55:40]
Second runner-up, Norbit, again.
[55:43]
Came out years ago.
[55:45]
Well, we just keep voting for it, I guess.
[55:47]
Number three, Meet Dave.
[55:49]
And number four.
[55:50]
A Thousand Words.
[55:51]
A Thousand Words.
[55:52]
Eddie Murphy has swept all over the top spot.
[55:54]
This is the part of the podcast where we talk about movies that we've seen that we would recommend.
[56:01]
That we genuinely liked.
[56:03]
In some way.
[56:04]
Stuart, what do you have to say for yourself?
[56:06]
Bum, bum, bum.
[56:07]
Well, the other day, guys, I was watching a movie about robots fighting.
[56:12]
Was it called Robot Jocks?
[56:14]
It was called Robot Jocks.
[56:15]
I'm recommending Robot Jocks, everybody.
[56:17]
Stuart Gordon's Robot Jocks.
[56:18]
Wow.
[56:19]
Amazing movie.
[56:20]
Recommending Robot Jocks.
[56:21]
Telegraph that one, Andy.
[56:22]
Yeah.
[56:23]
Okay.
[56:24]
Go, Elliot.
[56:25]
Wow.
[56:26]
There's nothing you want to say about Robot Jocks?
[56:27]
Do you know what I was saying?
[56:28]
Why are you recommending Robot Jocks?
[56:29]
You're so good about Robot Jocks other than robots fighting, which is a pretty convincing
[56:30]
argument.
[56:31]
Except we just saw a movie that, at its basic core, was people fighting robots.
[56:35]
They were aliens, but they looked like robots.
[56:37]
Yeah, but I didn't recommend that one.
[56:38]
I'm recommending this one.
[56:39]
They should take it on the strength of my recommendation alone.
[56:42]
I mean, there's already been controversy.
[56:44]
I've never lied to anybody, ever.
[56:45]
There's been controversy about some of your recommendations.
[56:47]
Okay, fine.
[56:48]
Who gives a shit?
[56:49]
Watch Castle Freak Day.
[56:50]
Okay.
[56:51]
So to summarize, watch one of two different Stuart Gordon movies.
[56:55]
Either Robot Jocks, which was his big budget smash.
[56:59]
Either Robert Jocks.
[57:01]
Or Castle Freak.
[57:03]
That was a non-big budget, non-smash.
[57:06]
Yeah, Robot Jocks.
[57:07]
Probably a bigger budget than he's used to working with.
[57:09]
Yeah.
[57:10]
As Elliot alluded to earlier in the podcast, we have been on the road for two weeks.
[57:17]
Yep, just living life, chasing the American dream.
[57:20]
No, not doing that.
[57:22]
Just going through town, solving people's problems.
[57:24]
Working for 12 hours a day.
[57:26]
Like Quantum Leap?
[57:27]
Yeah, like Quantum Leap.
[57:29]
Like a lot of...
[57:30]
Except you were traveling in space, not time.
[57:32]
We were mostly being in hotels and then being in big rooms, cement rooms, writing, and then being back in hotels.
[57:40]
Yeah, watching speeches by politicians.
[57:43]
Yeah, so I haven't had a lot of chance to watch new movies.
[57:46]
So this is going to be a qualified recommendation from me.
[57:50]
A Dan, watch it on a plane if you have to recommendation?
[57:55]
Wow, I think that's a fair thing to say.
[57:58]
This is a movie I think would be better than having your nuts crushed by a sledgehammer.
[58:02]
That's Dan's recommendation, Dan's seal of nut approval.
[58:05]
I watched...
[58:07]
If you had a choice between being blinded with a hot poker and watching this movie, consider the movie.
[58:11]
Did that happen in The Mortals 2 or just The Nut Smash?
[58:13]
Just The Nut Smash.
[58:14]
Oh, okay.
[58:15]
When I returned to Brooklyn, I watched a little movie called Piranha 2, colon, The Spawning.
[58:22]
Okay.
[58:23]
Which is a movie I've been curious about for a while, mainly because it's listed as James Cameron's, I think, earliest film.
[58:31]
However, he was replaced from what I understand a week or two into filming by the producer of the movie.
[58:37]
So I don't know how much of the film was actually directed by James Cameron.
[58:41]
Is this his vision?
[58:42]
Well, does anyone turn into liquid metal?
[58:44]
No, but Lance Henriksen is in it.
[58:46]
Okay.
[58:47]
So at least the casting, I assume, was overseen by Mr. Jim Cameron himself.
[58:52]
But this is a fun B-movie about flying piranha.
[58:56]
Not only do they fly, they're not like flying fish, flying piranha.
[59:00]
They're like hummingbirds.
[59:01]
They can hover around people and chew off their neck.
[59:05]
While hovering. That sounds awesome.
[59:07]
Yeah.
[59:08]
So it's set up like a classic disaster movie.
[59:11]
You run into a bunch of goofy types who are at this resort community.
[59:19]
And it's got Lance Henriksen, as I said, as a police chief.
[59:23]
So he's not one of the piranhas.
[59:24]
No.
[59:25]
He's young.
[59:26]
It would have been great if he was in a big piranha costume.
[59:28]
They have a tiny piranha when there's another actor.
[59:31]
But then they cut to close-ups of the piranha and clearly Lance Henriksen in the costume.
[59:34]
I'm going to bite you.
[59:36]
I'm a piranha.
[59:37]
Jim Cameron's amazing at special effects, man.
[59:41]
I'm sure he could make it work.
[59:42]
He can do anything.
[59:43]
He can make the man behind Millennium look like a piranha.
[59:46]
It's weird to see.
[59:47]
Not the man behind Millennium.
[59:48]
The man on Millennium.
[59:50]
Chris Carter was the man behind Millennium.
[59:52]
It's weird to see a young Lance Henriksen and realize that while he looks younger, he never did not look weathered.
[1:00:00]
As a young man, he was still a weathered...
[1:00:02]
A boyhood accident.
[1:00:03]
A boyhood accident at a glue factory and a tanning lamp.
[1:00:08]
But there are some slow parts, but if you want a sleazy B-movie with flying piranhas
[1:00:14]
that eat people on top of ladies wearing piranhas...
[1:00:16]
Then really there's only one movie to see.
[1:00:18]
Then watch Prontitude.
[1:00:19]
You're qualifying it when you get to the point where if you want to see a movie with flying
[1:00:22]
piranhas, there's only one movie.
[1:00:23]
If you want to see a movie with Lance Anderson where he pilots a helicopter out in the middle
[1:00:29]
of the ocean to save people from flying piranhas, then this is the one.
[1:00:33]
Oh, no.
[1:00:34]
See, I've seen you use this trick before.
[1:00:37]
The trick of just describe the movie.
[1:00:39]
If you want to see a movie where an aging Hollywood star hires a screenwriter for her
[1:00:45]
big comeback and they become lovers and then she shoots him, Sunset Boulevard is the movie
[1:00:50]
for you.
[1:00:51]
Not Piranha...
[1:00:52]
Piranha 2 The Spawning.
[1:00:53]
Not Piranha 2 The Spawning.
[1:00:54]
Or any other movie.
[1:00:55]
That sounds like Piranha 2 The Spawning from what Dave just said.
[1:00:56]
If you want to see a movie where a bunch of crazy guys in New York are busting ghosts,
[1:01:00]
Piranha 2 The Movie is not the movie for you.
[1:01:03]
You've got two options for that movie.
[1:01:05]
We've got some solid recommendations, Alan.
[1:01:07]
In conclusion, you guys are a bunch of assholes.
[1:01:09]
In conclusion, I have a recommendation.
[1:01:12]
I'll quickly recommend two movies I saw recently.
[1:01:15]
This may still be in the theaters when you hear this, a movie called Premium Rush with
[1:01:19]
Joseph Gordon-Levitt.
[1:01:20]
Oh, yeah.
[1:01:21]
I enjoyed that.
[1:01:22]
It's a guy that gets his hands on an item that other people want and is being chased.
[1:01:27]
Who's the guy who plays the cop?
[1:01:28]
Michael Shannon.
[1:01:29]
Michael Shannon plays a great...
[1:01:30]
Crazy Face.
[1:01:31]
Crazy Face Shannon plays the man who looks like Nick Flaherty.
[1:01:34]
He's hilarious in Premium Rush.
[1:01:36]
He's in a comedy role.
[1:01:37]
He's very funny and it's a kind of low-scale, small-scale comedy, I would say not thriller
[1:01:44]
but thrill ride.
[1:01:45]
There's a lot of scenes of Joseph Gordon-Levitt like biking through traffic.
[1:01:49]
Yeah, there's a lot of good chase scenes.
[1:01:52]
It's a fun B comedy chase movie.
[1:01:54]
I enjoyed it a lot and I recommend it.
[1:01:57]
Here's my classic film recommendation to balance out Robot Jocks and Piranha 2 The Spawning
[1:02:02]
is one of Claude Chabrol's early films, a thing called Les Bonnes Femmes, The Good Girls
[1:02:10]
or The Good Time Girls and it is a very early French New Wave movie who is about a bunch
[1:02:16]
of girls who work at a shop together and kind of each one is yearning in a different way
[1:02:21]
for a more exciting life than they have.
[1:02:23]
One sleeps around, one has stage dreams and another one is in love with a man from afar
[1:02:29]
and the tone of the movie changes very quickly from scene to scene in a way that is sometimes
[1:02:35]
disorienting like what and is sometimes very exciting and it goes to places you don't necessarily
[1:02:40]
expect it to go to and there's a lot of just kind of very lively French New Wave characters
[1:02:46]
experiencing a situation scenes and the girls in it, some are very cute and you see them
[1:02:50]
in bathing suits in one scene.
[1:02:51]
Oh, that's good.
[1:02:52]
Yeah.
[1:02:53]
So three recommendations for Battleship.
[1:02:54]
No.
[1:02:55]
I think all recommendations for Battleship and Les Bonnes Femmes.
[1:02:58]
Hey, guys.
[1:02:59]
What's up?
[1:03:00]
It's been beautiful seeing you.
[1:03:01]
Oh, yeah.
[1:03:02]
We're all done, right?
[1:03:03]
It's just been a treat.
[1:03:04]
Yeah, I missed you guys.
[1:03:05]
Before we leave, let's remind people again, September 19th, Williamsburg, Public Assembly,
[1:03:11]
we're going to be doing a show with the I Love Bad Movie people.
[1:03:14]
Maybe do some callback yucks.
[1:03:16]
Some callback yucks.
[1:03:17]
There'll be trivia contest questions.
[1:03:19]
I thought you were going to say, before we leave, let's all promise to meet back here.
[1:03:23]
Let's meet back here in one year on this date in the same place and do another podcast.
[1:03:28]
Then we'll catch that kid.
[1:03:29]
If we're not married by then.
[1:03:30]
We'll catch that kid, bag that bird, all the things we wanted.
[1:03:32]
All the callbacks.
[1:03:33]
And we'll have a big announcement maybe for the next episode, possibly.
[1:03:38]
All right.
[1:03:39]
Meowvie.
[1:03:40]
Just tease a little bit.
[1:03:42]
Just give them a tease.
[1:03:43]
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:03:44]
Show them your bra strap.
[1:03:45]
And until then, September 19th.
[1:03:46]
It's amazing when I was a kid how hot a bra strap would make me, and now it does not have
[1:03:51]
any effect on me.
[1:03:52]
Yeah, you start pawing at the earth.
[1:03:53]
I would turn into a Tex Avery wolf.
[1:03:57]
Yeah.
[1:03:58]
Now you would not believe the sick shit it takes to turn Elliot on.
[1:04:01]
Exactly.
[1:04:02]
Are you kidding?
[1:04:03]
Come on.
[1:04:04]
It's not even legal.
[1:04:05]
All right.
[1:04:06]
Well, on that creepy note.
[1:04:07]
It's barely legal.
[1:04:08]
Just barely.
[1:04:09]
Let's sign this thing off.
[1:04:12]
For the Flophouse, I've been Dan McCoy.
[1:04:14]
Yeah, I'm Stuart Wellington.
[1:04:17]
Unless I'm legally culpable, I'm Elliot Cailin.
[1:04:20]
Goodnight, everyone.
[1:04:21]
Boom.
[1:04:22]
You really lost energy there, Stuart.
[1:04:23]
Yeah, it got me.
[1:04:24]
The Bud Light got to me.
[1:04:25]
I mean, come on.
[1:04:26]
She can't help it.
[1:04:27]
Check one for me.
[1:04:28]
Check two for me.
[1:04:29]
And this is for Stuart.
[1:04:30]
Checkity check.
[1:04:31]
Checkerino.
[1:04:32]
Checks?
[1:04:33]
Check Republic.
[1:04:34]
Check Republic.
[1:04:35]
Check Republic.
[1:04:36]
Check Republic.
[1:04:37]
Check Republic.
[1:04:38]
Check Republic.
[1:04:39]
Check Republic.
[1:04:40]
Check Republic.
[1:04:41]
Check Republic.
[1:04:42]
Check Republic.
[1:04:43]
Check Republic.
[1:04:44]
Check Republic.
[1:04:45]
Check Republic.
[1:04:47]
Alright, well.
[1:04:48]
Let's fucking get this shit underway.
[1:04:51]
Yeah, let's do it to it.
[1:04:53]
Glue it.
Description
0:00 - 0:32 - Introduction and theme.0:33 - 37:37 - A movie as bloated and overlong as Battleship deserves one of our most bloated and overlong discussions, right?37:38 - 40:07 - Final judgments40:08 - 42:33 - A plug for our live panel show, and a discussion that honestly probably should have been cut from the podcast.42:34 - 55:54 - Flop House Movie Mailbag55:55 - 1:29:59- The sad bastards recommend. 1:30:00 - 1:04:55 - Goodbyes, theme, and outtakes.
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