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Episode #166 - Pompeii
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Dan McCoy
[0:00]
On tonight's episode, we watched Pompeii.
Elliott Kalan
[0:04]
It forward. Pompeii it forward.
[0:07]
Uh, what?
[0:30]
Hey everyone, welcome to the Flophouse. I'm Dan McCoy.
Stuart Wellington
[0:39]
Hey everyone, I'm Stuart Wellington.
Elliott Kalan
[0:41]
Elliot Kalin here, rounding out the cast as himself.
[0:44]
Yeah.
[0:45]
And featuring no one else.
[0:47]
Just three guys.
[0:49]
Special guest star, the regular people.
Dan McCoy
[0:51]
It's like a one-man show times three.
Elliott Kalan
[0:54]
Yep. We're like a bunch of three stooges, except there's only one of us.
[0:58]
Wait.
[0:59]
Oh yeah, this is one of those identity movies.
Stuart Wellington
[1:01]
Oh, okay. So we're all in John Cusack's head.
Dan McCoy
[1:03]
Yeah, and we're like, John, what is with the career choices you're making?
[1:06]
It's like multiplicity if they stopped at two clones.
[1:10]
Plus the original guy.
Elliott Kalan
[1:13]
Yeah, exactly.
[1:15]
It's like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde if there was a third guy who was also involved.
[1:20]
Larry.
[1:21]
Called Larry Hyde, Dr. Jekyll's buddy.
Dan McCoy
[1:24]
Dr. Jekyll's buddy, Larry.
Elliott Kalan
[1:26]
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde and Larry.
[1:28]
Even Larry's like, I feel like I'm kind of extraneous here, guys.
[1:35]
Kind of a third wheel.
[1:35]
But many things have three wheels.
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Tricycles, that Mr. Bean car that's always getting knocked over.
[1:41]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[1:42]
Motorcycles with side cars.
[1:44]
I guess they've got four wheels, really.
[1:45]
Yeah.
[1:46]
I mean, not if you build them wrong.
Elliott Kalan
[1:49]
It's true.
[1:50]
If it's built brokenly, then yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[1:52]
So would Larry be the id, the ego, or the superego, Dan?
[1:56]
No, he's the neighbor.
Elliott Kalan
[1:57]
Oh, he's.
[1:57]
Who's always like, what's going on over at the Jekyll place?
[2:00]
I got to check in.
[2:02]
Yeah.
[2:02]
It's kind of a three's company situation.
[2:03]
He's the Mr. Roper.
Stuart Wellington
[2:03]
So he always walks in and he thinks Dr. Jekyll's giving Mr. Hyde a handjob or something.
Dan McCoy
[2:08]
No.
[2:09]
They're like, no, we're teaching each other to dance.
[2:11]
And he's like, that's not what it looked like.
Stuart Wellington
[2:13]
Only one of them at a time.
[2:14]
But yeah.
[2:14]
Yes.
[2:15]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[2:15]
Certainly.
[2:17]
We're teaching each other to dance.
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It's called masturbating, guys.
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Grow up.
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What?
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Okay.
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Don't understand where this conversation went.
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Dan, what do we do on this thing that we're doing?
[2:28]
What is this?
Stuart Wellington
[2:30]
Theoretically, we watch.
[2:31]
It's a podcast that you download.
Dan McCoy
[2:32]
Yeah.
[2:33]
Thanks.
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I mean, they know that.
[2:36]
Presumably, they know that part.
Stuart Wellington
[2:37]
Unless they're streaming it.
[2:38]
Yeah.
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Or they're like being trapped somewhere.
Dan McCoy
[2:41]
Look, you've got this podcast.
[2:43]
Somehow.
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Maybe you downloaded it.
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Maybe you found it in a bottle that you found in the ocean.
Elliott Kalan
[2:47]
Yeah.
[2:47]
Maybe a genie gave you a compact disc to play.
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And this was on.
Stuart Wellington
[2:53]
He yanked it out of a Hellraiser guy's head.
Dan McCoy
[2:56]
But the point is, we watch a bad movie.
Elliott Kalan
[2:59]
Maybe you're at an exorcism.
[3:02]
And the demon-possessed youth is just repeating this to you.
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The point is, it's a podcast.
[3:08]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[3:08]
The premise, such as it is, that we watch a bad movie and then we discuss it.
Elliott Kalan
[3:12]
And then we yakety-yak about it.
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With you.
Dan McCoy
[3:13]
I mean, you don't really say anything.
[3:15]
I mean, you can't.
[3:15]
I mean, you can say, yeah.
[3:16]
We just won't.
[3:16]
We won't hear you.
Elliott Kalan
[3:17]
We won't hear it.
[3:17]
Not because we can't, but because we refuse to.
[3:21]
Whatever you're saying right now, I can't hear it.
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La, la, la, la.
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Not listening.
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Dan, continue.
Dan McCoy
[3:25]
So, we watched tonight Pompeii.
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Pompeii!
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Based on the true story of Pompeii.
Elliott Kalan
[3:32]
Well, loosely based on real events.
[3:35]
Yeah.
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And I was surprised to find that Pompeii is about as old-fashioned a natural disaster movie set
[3:43]
in a historical setting as you can get.
[3:45]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[3:46]
What are other historical disaster films?
[3:49]
Well, I'm going to recommend one.
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Dante's Peak.
Elliott Kalan
[3:51]
But you have movies like San Francisco, The Last Days of Pompeii, which is a much, much
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earlier movie about the eruption of Vesuvius.
Dan McCoy
[4:01]
It's good that they said The Last Days of Pompeii rather than The Early Days of Pompeii.
[4:04]
It's then founding the city.
Stuart Wellington
[4:05]
People are like, when's this volcano going to erupt?
[4:08]
What about The Poseidon Adventure?
[4:11]
No, not exactly.
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What about Titanic?
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I think it was.
Elliott Kalan
[4:15]
Titanic, kind of.
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I mean, that's less of a natural disaster, but you'd have a lot of these movies.
Stuart Wellington
[4:20]
And this movie certainly wishes it was Titanic at points.
Elliott Kalan
[4:23]
Yes, very much so.
[4:24]
During the studio era especially, you had a lot of movies that were like, we're going
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to take a real life, like the San Francisco earthquake or like the fire, Great Fire of Chicago.
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And we're going to add Mickey Rooney do it.
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Well, yeah, always.
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That was law, though.
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Roosevelt signed that into law.
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Yeah.
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It was the Mickey Rooney Historical Disaster Film Act because Rooney needed the work.
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Come on.
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He was just a kid.
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He was supporting his whole family.
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It was the Depression.
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Anyway, so you had a, they would say, here's a natural disaster.
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Everyone knows it's going to happen.
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So that's instant suspense.
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We'll have a love triangle between like a good guy and a bad guy and a girl.
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Okay.
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And then, yeah, that was the third point.
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Yeah, there's only two points.
Stuart Wellington
[5:03]
So she was the Larry in this case.
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Dr. Jekyll, Mr. Hyde, and Larry.
Elliott Kalan
[5:07]
Oh, yeah, it's a love triangle.
[5:08]
Did I not mention that?
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Dr. Jekyll has a crush on Larry, but Larry has a crush on Hyde.
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Yeah, because he's a bad boy, dude.
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It's a real Superman-clark situation.
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So Dr. Jekyll keeps changing into Hyde to get Larry to like him.
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And at the end, Larry's like, Dr. Jekyll, I wasn't going to like you until you liked yourself.
[5:24]
Exactly.
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And Dr. Jekyll's like, so you like me now?
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And Larry's like, no, I don't.
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I'm going out with Dracula now.
Stuart Wellington
[5:30]
The ultimate Mr. Hyde.
Elliott Kalan
[5:33]
The ultimate bad boy.
Dan McCoy
[5:35]
Dracula, the ultimate Mr. Hyde.
[5:37]
What a weird slogan.
Stuart Wellington
[5:39]
So speaking of Dragulas, this movie has Kiefer Zettler.
Elliott Kalan
[5:43]
How is he a Dracula?
Stuart Wellington
[5:44]
He was a Dracula in Lost Boys, dude.
Elliott Kalan
[5:47]
I guess he was a vampire.
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He wasn't a Dracula.
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Unless it was called Dracula's Kids.
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It was the Drac Pack.
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Little Draculas.
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Little Dracula Jr.
Stuart Wellington
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California Dracs.
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Little known fact about Drac.
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Drac.
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I didn't have anything.
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I just wanted to say that.
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You just wanted to say that.
Elliott Kalan
[6:05]
He has a kid named Kiefer.
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So let's talk about...
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Strapped in a mirror world.
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This is an old-fashioned formula.
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And this is a...
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And they did not add anything new to it until, let's say, the last 25 minutes of the movie.
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Let's explain.
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We begin in Britannia in the year 62 AD.
[6:22]
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Dan McCoy
[6:24]
This is a movie about the Roman city of Pompeii.
Elliott Kalan
[6:26]
Well, technically, Rome was just a city.
[6:29]
It was a...
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It's the ancient city of Pompeii that was part of the empire, I guess.
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All right.
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Carry on.
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So, carry on.
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That wasn't my concern.
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Like the British series, carry on.
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Carry on up your mother.
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It's bloomers.
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Whoa.
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Whoa.
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Whatever.
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It was the unreleased one.
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Yeah.
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Dad's mom, it was called.
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Dad's armies, carry on.
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Dad's armies, mom, carry on up the academy of your life.
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Up your bloody...
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Are you being served towers?
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Yeah.
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Python.
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Et cetera.
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Why are you looking at me, Dan?
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Damn busters.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, why were you looking at Stuart?
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I don't know.
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He's a handsome fellow.
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He is.
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Nice to look at.
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Anyway, we start in Britannia.
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And I know it's about Pompeii, but for some reason we start in Britannia.
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And here's the reason.
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Because...
Stuart Wellington
[7:19]
The Couls of Doom's about to show up and kill Conan's dad and mom.
Elliott Kalan
[7:23]
Pretty much, yes.
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So the Romans are subduing the Celts.
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And in doing so, they massacre a village, but they leave one boy alive by accident who
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has seen Keith or Sutherland...
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Harry Potter.
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Who's seen Keith or Sutherland, who plays Corvus, a Roman general who becomes a senator
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later on.
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And...
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Who's like nerdy bodyguard.
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And he has...
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And his nerdy bodyguard who apparently...
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Car wrinkles?
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His bodyguard...
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Urbids?
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His bodyguard who looks like a cross between like Paul Rubens and Jeff Goldblum and Eddie
[7:54]
Deason.
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And Anthony Weiner.
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And Anthony...
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Yeah.
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Who kind of looks like those guys already.
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He did look like Anthony Weiner.
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That's right.
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And his name was like Trucules or something like that.
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Broculus.
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Broculus Trucules.
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Broculus Mayhem Trucules.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He was based on Brock Mayhem before he existed.
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That's former Flophouse guest host and great friend of us, Brock Mayhem.
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Yeah.
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Look him up.
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Hello, Brock.
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On the internet at brockmayhem.edu slash gov plus or minus AB divided by the square root
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of two equals X.
Stuart Wellington
[8:32]
All for X.
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Dot Tumblr.
Elliott Kalan
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So...
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So anyway, Kiefer Sutherland and Trucules, Broculus, kill Kiefer Sutherland as a boy...
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No, to kill this little boy's parents.
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Little boy escapes and is taken captive as a slave.
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And 17 years later, he has grown up to be Milo.
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Wait, his name's Milo?
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Yeah.
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I'm just realizing that looking at the Wikipedia entry.
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I had no idea what most of the characters' names were in this movie.
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But he turns up...
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Grows up to be Kit Harington.
Dan McCoy
[9:01]
I hope the other gladiator's name is Otis.
Elliott Kalan
[9:03]
And the end of the movie is the only way to escape Vesuvius is to transmorph into a dog
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and a cat.
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Into a pug and a cat.
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And they go, pause, don't fail us now.
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Whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop.
Stuart Wellington
[9:19]
One of them turns into a little helicopter and flies the other one to save me.
Dan McCoy
[9:23]
I was going to say there's a dog and a cat-shaped hole in the screen of the movie.
Elliott Kalan
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Milo uses his ears like helicopter blades and flies them above the smoking hot ash that's
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falling on the city.
Stuart Wellington
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Like the eagles in Tolkien.
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That's true.
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That's an accurate reference.
Elliott Kalan
[9:39]
Yeah, it is.
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And that thing, that's a thing.
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So anyway, he grows up to be Kit Harington from Game of Thrones.
Dan McCoy
[9:45]
Okay.
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Kit Harington sounds like a girl orphan character.
Elliott Kalan
[9:52]
That's true.
[9:54]
Like in the Depression.
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Or like an Edwardian juvenile adventure novel.
Dan McCoy
[9:59]
Yeah, there's a series of novels starring Kit Harington.
Elliott Kalan
[10:01]
Or Kit Harington is like a girl gumshoe reporter.
Dan McCoy
[10:04]
Well, she starts out as a boxcar child.
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She works her way up to be president.
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Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
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The first little girl president.
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And she fights Hitler.
Dan McCoy
[10:14]
In a Jax tournament.
Elliott Kalan
[10:15]
Okay.
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And she wins all his dollies, which leads him to invade Poland.
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Wow.
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A dark ending, yeah.
Dan McCoy
[10:22]
Ultimately, she caused more harm than her.
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Oh, is there's a reason they impeached her?
Elliott Kalan
[10:25]
The real...
Stuart Wellington
[10:26]
She was the first...
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It's an interesting impeachment.
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Based on things done as a little baby.
Elliott Kalan
[10:33]
No, no.
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She was already president.
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She wasn't a baby?
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No, no.
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She was a little girl.
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She was like eight.
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Okay.
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High crimes in Jax against the state.
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Anyway.
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High crimes and misdemeanor.
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The cop's villain.
Stuart Wellington
[10:48]
Wait.
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Misdemeanor was a villain?
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Yeah.
[10:50]
Okay.
Elliott Kalan
[10:52]
Misdemeanor's a bad thing.
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And when my parents went to go see the movie Crimes and Misdemeanors, when I was a kid,
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I thought it was about that character.
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Anyway.
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Sexy.
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So Milo, with no Otis, eventually grows up to be a gladiator called the Celt, who is owned
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by the best character in the movie.
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A sort of foppish Dom DeLuise in History of the World Part 1.
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As you were saying, Stuart, he was basically, what's the character from Futurama?
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Yeah.
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Hedonism bot or whatever.
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Hedonism bot.
Dan McCoy
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I was thinking about how great a joke that is on Futurama.
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I mean, number one, just like the character, but number two, the idea that someone created
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a robot for the express purpose of being hedonistic.
Elliott Kalan
[11:34]
Yeah.
[11:34]
And he's like a robot couch that feeds himself grapes, right?
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Or something like that.
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Anyway.
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So great.
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But he's not in this either.
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But this slave owner is, and he is leading him some, I guess the slaves are taking this
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guy somewhere.
Stuart Wellington
[11:49]
He looks kind of like Guy Fieri's ancestor, basically.
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Yeah, but without the frosted tips.
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That's before they invented them.
Elliott Kalan
[11:56]
Yeah.
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Back then when you wanted frosted tips, you had to put ice in your hair.
Stuart Wellington
[11:59]
You had to climb the mountains and fight frost giants.
Elliott Kalan
[12:03]
To learn the secret of their hair.
[12:05]
Sure.
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Continue, I guess.
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So on the road while he's being brought to Pompeii, Milo runs across a carriage carrying
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Cassia, played by Emily Browning, who is the daughter of Jared Harris as some big muckety-muck
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macher in Pompeii.
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Yeah.
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She's returning from Rome, and her horse dies or something?
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Her horse is hurt.
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And she convinces the slave owner to unlock Milo so that he can soothe the horse to death.
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Because being a Celt, he knows horses.
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And he manages to whisper to the horse until it gets distracted and then snaps its neck to
Dan McCoy
[12:41]
put it out of its misery.
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But we should point out there's a number of reoccurring Flophouse favorites here.
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You got Emily Browning, who was in Sucker Punch and The Uninvited.
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You got Jared Harris from The Quiet Ones.
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You got Keitha Sutherland from Mirrors.
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You got Director Paul W.S. Anderson from The Three Musketeers.
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It's a real flop coming.
Elliott Kalan
[13:00]
It's a flop reunion.
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Yeah.
[13:01]
Who is flop coming, Queen?
Stuart Wellington
[13:03]
Emily Browning in this case, right?
Elliott Kalan
[13:05]
You mean with her crazy cheekbones that were slicing people up left and right?
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They were so sharp?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Baby cheekbones.
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She has really defined cheekbones to the point that I wanted her to use them as a weapon
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at the end.
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Sure.
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Like Keitha Sutherland would swing a sword at her and she'd catch it on her cheekbone
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and push it away and then slash at him with her cheekbone.
Stuart Wellington
[13:22]
You were worried that Mount Pompeii would erupt because of the proximity to the gravitational
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pole of her enormous cheekbones.
Elliott Kalan
[13:28]
Yeah.
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No, it was Mount Vesuvius.
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Pompeii is a city.
Stuart Wellington
[13:31]
It's not Mount Pompeii.
Elliott Kalan
[13:33]
It's not Mount Pompeii.
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Oh, man.
Stuart Wellington
[13:35]
Should I watch the movie again?
Elliott Kalan
[13:36]
Maybe just read up anything on it, but yeah, your punishment is to watch the movie again.
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Oh.
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But anyway, Cassia is taken with this slave.
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Long story short, that's the love triangle becomes Cassia, who has a crush on this slave
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who's becoming a famous gladiator and who befriends Ada B.C., who was the previous star
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gladiator.
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Yeah.
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Mr. Echo from Lost.
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Yeah.
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And the third point in the triangle is Kiefer Sutherland, who returns to Pompeii, not returns,
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just shows up.
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He's now a big Roman senator with an army behind him.
Stuart Wellington
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He has not aged a day.
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He has not aged a day, and neither has his Anthony Weiner sidekick.
[14:15]
No.
Elliott Kalan
[14:16]
And he, apparently Cassia, ran from Rome because Kiefer Sutherland wanted to marry her.
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Now he's there, and he's saying, and he's there as a possible investor in Jared Harris's
[14:29]
new building projects in Pompeii.
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And I have to admit, until two of the action scenes that came up later, the most exciting
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part of the movie was when Jared Harris was showing his proposed models to Kiefer Sutherland
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to show him what kind of projects he should invest in.
Dan McCoy
[14:44]
But I don't know that that was like, but I don't know that was the content of the scene
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either, though.
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That was like, you got two real ham bones hamming it up, Jared Harris and Kiefer Sutherland.
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And Kiefer Sutherland, I enjoyed very much in this movie.
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The more mustache twirly he got, the better.
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Yeah.
[15:00]
Oh, yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[15:01]
As the movie goes on, he becomes more and more cartoonish and just smirks through everything.
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And the movie needed more of that.
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Let's just say this while we're talking about it.
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This is a bland movie, and it could use more charming character.
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And Kiefer Sutherland provides a little bit of that.
[15:14]
The guy who plays the decadent gladiator owner provides a little bit of that.
[15:18]
The hero is like a blank sheet of paper.
Dan McCoy
[15:21]
His gladiator pal is more fun.
Elliott Kalan
[15:23]
His gladiator pal is more fun and has a more heroic climax at the end.
Stuart Wellington
[15:29]
I kind of wish that instead of Kit Harington, Milo's backstory.
[15:33]
Go reporter.
[15:34]
Yeah, the beginning of the movie had just been Kiefer Sutherland actively pursuing Emily
[15:44]
Browning's character, awkwardly pursuing her constantly in Rome and her rebuffing him.
[15:49]
So they were like, man, what a jerk.
[15:50]
And they played more of that up because I felt that stuff was way more exciting than any
[15:55]
of the other gladiator bullshit.
Elliott Kalan
[15:56]
Than any of the Conan the Barbarian gladiator ripoff stuff.
[15:59]
Yeah, exactly.
[16:01]
To make a long story short, it all comes to a head when Milo has recognized the people
[16:08]
who killed his family.
[16:10]
And for whatever reason.
[16:12]
He says, hey you, don't I know you're somewhere?
[16:14]
Yeah.
[16:14]
Didn't you kill someone I know of?
[16:16]
Who was it?
Stuart Wellington
[16:17]
He's like, probably I killed a million people.
[16:20]
No, no, no, no.
[16:21]
It was someone close to me.
[16:23]
But the whole thing is...
[16:24]
I'm glad that he doesn't remember who he knows who got killed.
Elliott Kalan
[16:29]
Was it?
[16:29]
No, it wasn't my teacher.
[16:30]
I killed my teacher.
[16:31]
Was it?
[16:33]
Oh, it's right on the tip of my tongue.
[16:35]
It was a man and a woman.
[16:36]
My...
[16:37]
Sonny and Cher.
[16:38]
You killed Sonny and Cher, right?
[16:40]
My favorite song and dance team.
[16:41]
My personal assistant.
[16:43]
You killed my moth.
[16:45]
Big egos killed Sonny and Cher.
[16:47]
My moth.
[16:47]
My pet moth.
[16:48]
And my da...
[16:50]
Dat.
[16:51]
You killed my digital audio tape, right?
[16:53]
That's what it was.
[16:55]
Why'd you do that?
[16:55]
Stomped my moth and broke my tape?
[16:57]
All my archives were on that.
[16:59]
I know it's going to break down eventually anyway.
[17:01]
It's not a great archival format.
[17:02]
But still, all the same.
[17:04]
At least give me time to transfer it to something a little more permanent.
[17:07]
Anyway, great to see.
[17:08]
I'll get revenge later.
[17:09]
How is the family?
[17:10]
How are the folks?
[17:11]
Still not married, huh?
[17:12]
Jason Cassia.
[17:12]
Well, let me tell you.
[17:13]
Hey, I'm interested in her too.
[17:14]
That's amazing.
[17:15]
It's the cheekbones.
[17:16]
Yeah.
[17:17]
Got to watch yourself.
[17:17]
I got too close.
[17:18]
And it was like...
[17:19]
I didn't even touch her and it still cut me somehow.
[17:21]
Like a master swordsman ninja sword.
[17:24]
Just slicing the molecules of air.
[17:26]
Anyway, I've talked long enough, I guess.
[17:27]
You look like you've got important business to do.
[17:29]
You've got all these centurions and that guy looks like Anthony Weiner right next to you.
[17:33]
He's looking pretty bored.
[17:34]
I know you've got a lot of important business.
[17:35]
Jared Harris, I think, wanted to talk to you.
[17:37]
That guy is a really good actor.
[17:38]
He's got a little bit of the ham in him, but still, really great.
[17:41]
Loved him on Mad Men.
[17:42]
When is Mad Men coming back?
[17:44]
Am I really going to have to wait until next year for all the episodes?
[17:47]
But excuse me, I'm chatting too much and I've got a gladiator fight to get to.
[17:51]
Fight to the death.
[17:51]
Oh boy.
[17:52]
Anyway, it's a living, as they say in the Flintstones.
[17:55]
Now, the Flintstones, how far away are we from that?
[17:58]
Because we're still living in stone houses and wearing like togas and like sandals and stuff.
[18:04]
Are we cavemen or are we Romans?
[18:07]
What age of the world he's living in?
[18:10]
I don't understand.
[18:11]
Where are we in relation to the Bible?
[18:13]
Did that happen yet?
[18:15]
Or because I don't know.
[18:16]
It's A.D., right?
[18:17]
That's after Flintstones.
[18:18]
After Flintstones.
[18:19]
That's what A.D. stands for?
[18:20]
After the Flintstones?
[18:21]
I'm jumping in here.
Stuart Wellington
[18:23]
I'm ailing the Keithers part.
Elliott Kalan
[18:25]
Anyway, I'm rambling on, but that's me.
[18:28]
I don't have a lot of people to talk to in the slave pits.
[18:30]
So, what is canoe with you?
[18:31]
What's going on?
[18:32]
You look like you have an age today.
[18:33]
What is canoe with you?
[18:34]
You heard me.
[18:35]
It's my favorite animal.
[18:37]
Anyway, when you're a slave, you're looking for anything that'll liven things up.
[18:40]
And I found a picture of a canoe once.
[18:42]
Just carry it with me.
[18:43]
I'll show it to you right here if I can find it.
[18:45]
Like on a cable?
[18:45]
Not a lot of pockets in this toga.
[18:47]
On a scroll?
[18:47]
I'm still having trouble finding it.
[18:48]
Yeah, it was a drawn picture, but it was really photorealistic, which is a word I just used,
[18:53]
even though we don't have those yet.
[18:55]
Anyway, the thing about canoe's is they're also called wildebeests.
[18:59]
But I like calling them canoe's because it's like, is it new?
[19:02]
Is it canoe?
[19:03]
I don't know.
[19:04]
It's a mystery.
[19:04]
Yeah, it was a little bit of fun.
[19:05]
I get it.
[19:05]
And I love mysteries.
[19:06]
Speaking of, have you been watching Sherlock?
[19:08]
Benedict Cumberbatch?
[19:09]
This is why.
[19:09]
Oh, man.
[19:10]
What a hug.
[19:10]
I don't know.
Dan McCoy
[19:10]
I'm not sure.
[19:11]
This is why Elliot was so good at playing Andy Rooney.
[19:16]
Because Andy Rooney would just do that stream of consciousness thing.
Elliott Kalan
[19:19]
With Andy Rooney?
[19:20]
Andy.
[19:21]
The lovable girl from the Depression who complained?
[19:23]
Yeah, Kit Harington and Andy Rooney.
[19:26]
The sun will come out.
[19:27]
But why does the sun have to come out?
[19:29]
The moon will come out, but nobody sings songs about it.
[19:32]
I guess there are a lot of songs about the moon now that I think about it.
[19:35]
But I can't know all the songs.
[19:37]
I don't have a digital audio tape in my head.
[19:39]
I don't know why you're giving me a reason to keep going.
[19:40]
Anyway, but that's the truth.
[19:42]
The point is, it all comes to a head when everybody knows everybody else is there.
[19:47]
Mount Pompeii explodes.
[19:48]
No, no, it hasn't happened yet.
[19:49]
It's not called that.
[19:50]
They're in the arena.
[19:51]
There's in the arena.
[19:52]
There's this big gladiatorial contest.
[19:55]
And they've decided to simulate the battle, reenact the battle in which Kiefer Sutherland subdued the Celts.
[20:02]
And they've arranged it so that our heroes, Milo and his friend, the other gladiator, Atticus, are going to die because they're playing the parts of the Celts.
[20:12]
And Kiefer Sutherland says, you're going to give me your daughter's hand in marriage.
[20:16]
Not only am I not going to invest in your projects, I'm going to tell Emperor Titus that you were badmouthing him and you're all going to be hung to death.
[20:23]
And so there's a big battle in the arena.
Stuart Wellington
[20:27]
So during this arena, this reenactment, does Kiefer Sutherland play the Robert Urich?
[20:35]
Is that who was on Unsolved Mysteries?
[20:38]
TV Spencer for Hire.
[20:40]
Unsolved Mysteries is Robert Vaughn, isn't it?
[20:42]
Yeah.
[20:42]
Okay, then that guy.
[20:44]
So I don't understand.
[20:45]
I thought it was a reenactment.
[20:46]
Robert Vaughn.
Elliott Kalan
[20:47]
What is that?
[20:47]
Yeah, I don't know what.
[20:50]
I don't know why.
Dan McCoy
[20:51]
Robert Vaughn.
[20:51]
I think Robert Vaughn was a different person.
[20:53]
Look it up.
[20:54]
Anyway.
[20:54]
Robert Wagner.
[20:55]
Maybe that's what I'm thinking of.
Elliott Kalan
[20:58]
I'm not sure.
[20:59]
Look it up, please.
[20:59]
I'm thinking Bob Euchre.
[21:00]
Anyway, why were you?
[21:02]
What does that have to do with?
Stuart Wellington
[21:03]
Because he said reenactment.
[21:04]
So who's the guy who does all the setup and explains it to everybody?
[21:07]
No, well, there's a chorus.
[21:09]
Oh, yeah, there's a Greek chorus.
Elliott Kalan
[21:10]
Greek speakers.
[21:11]
Well, Roman chorus, I guess.
[21:12]
Robert Stack, everybody.
[21:13]
Oh, Robert Stack.
[21:14]
A stack of Robert.
[21:16]
Yeah, do you see the bazooms on that guy?
[21:19]
Under the trench coat?
[21:20]
There were so many Roberts.
[21:21]
Trench coat?
[21:21]
None of them.
[21:22]
I mean, there are many Roberts we could have picked that we didn't.
[21:25]
Robin Roberts.
[21:26]
We didn't say that.
[21:28]
Rockin' Robert.
[21:29]
My brother Roberts.
[21:30]
Tweedledee.
[21:30]
Eric Roberts, et cetera.
[21:32]
Yeah, Robert McCoy.
[21:33]
Julia Roberts.
[21:35]
Robbie Robertson from the Spider-Man comics.
[21:38]
Anyway, the point is, they have this big battle where, in this big faked battle, but it's real because it's gladiators, that the heroes are supposed to die in, but through a ludicrous bunch of fighting.
[21:47]
They manage to kill everybody who's thrown at them.
[21:50]
Yep.
Stuart Wellington
[21:50]
Because they put the two toughest dudes on the loser side.
Dan McCoy
[21:54]
And they put them on like a paper machine mountain.
[21:57]
And they unleash not your usual mayhem on all those people.
[22:03]
Not your usual mayhem, indeed.
[22:06]
Anyway.
[22:07]
I'm tired of your usual mayhem.
[22:09]
Sick of it.
[22:10]
I've seen it a million times before.
[22:12]
Let's have some crazier mayhem.
[22:14]
Like, I don't know, we'll throw watermelons at a good ghost.
[22:19]
That's uncommon.
Stuart Wellington
[22:19]
At a good ghost?
Dan McCoy
[22:21]
No, wait.
[22:22]
What?
[22:23]
Use a duck to beat up a robber or something.
[22:25]
I don't know.
Elliott Kalan
[22:27]
That's not usual.
[22:28]
You're a crazy mayhem.
[22:28]
Not usual at all, yeah.
[22:30]
Okay.
[22:30]
Anyway, so they have this, and this is one of two scenes that I genuinely enjoyed.
[22:35]
Okay.
[22:35]
Which was this big battle scene.
[22:37]
Now, part of that is because in ancient Roman times, they did do gladiator fights that were reenactment of battles.
[22:43]
They would flood the Coliseum and do naval battles, so at least they're taking the idea of a real thing and making a scene out of it.
[22:50]
Mm-hmm.
[22:51]
And I have to say, they really were making a scene.
[22:53]
The head waiter should have ushered them out.
[22:56]
It was ruining everybody's dinners.
[22:57]
But the point is, they're trying to make a scene out of it, but it gets crazy bonkers what good fighters these guys are.
Stuart Wellington
[23:04]
Yeah, and the chains that seem to get longer whenever they need to.
Elliott Kalan
[23:08]
They're chains to this papier-mâché mountain, and yet the chains do nothing to hinder their movements to the point that it becomes a benefit where Milo is riding a horse around the arena just clotheslining all the enemy soldiers with his chain.
[23:21]
But during this fight, when things look like it's going to be lost and some real Roman soldiers come in because Milo openly insults the Roman Empire,
[23:31]
Kiefer Silland sends real soldiers in.
[23:33]
There's a battle, but then all throughout the movie, there's been little shocks leading up to the eruption of Vesuvius that start out like a horror movie.
[23:42]
There's a servant who works for Cassia who's taking her horse out to drink at a river for some reason.
[23:49]
And the ground rumbles up and swallows him up, and the horse runs away.
[23:52]
And then later, the ground's rumbling around the horse, and it looks like the volcano's trying to erase the witnesses to the murder it committed.
[23:59]
So it's been leading up to this point, and the only person who really noticed that there seems to beā
Stuart Wellington
[24:03]
Spoiler alert, that horse is the only one who survivesā
[24:05]
The whole movie.
[24:06]
Yeah, yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[24:06]
Yeah, so here's the thing.
[24:08]
The only person who's noticed that, hey, the ground keeps shaking, maybe that's not a good thing, is the gladiator owner, who is a total decadent hedonist.
[24:17]
Yeah.
[24:17]
So he wants to get the H out of Pompeii.
[24:20]
Mm-hmm.
[24:21]
Hades.
[24:22]
What?
[24:22]
Hades.
[24:23]
Hades.
[24:23]
Yeah, he wants to get the Hades out of Pompeii.
[24:25]
Uh-huh.
[24:26]
So, but whatāso whileāright before the bad guys are about to kill the good guys, Vesuvius erupts, and we get into the disaster portion.
[24:34]
And now this is the portion of this type of movieā
Dan McCoy
[24:35]
That's like a goodāthat's almost the last half of the movie.
[24:38]
I mean, I haven't said the last 40 minutes or so.
Elliott Kalan
[24:40]
Yeah, yeah.
[24:41]
It'sāthis is theāthis is the last third of the movie.
[24:43]
This is the real me.
[24:43]
This is the third act.
[24:44]
It's the part in any of these movies where the natural disaster finally hits, the lovers are separatedā
[24:50]
And all the petty concerns of manā
[24:52]
Are put intoāare really thrown intoā
[24:54]
Stark relief, yeah.
[24:54]
Yeah, Stark relief.
[24:55]
Tony Stark relief.
[24:57]
In that Tony Stark needed to use the bathroom.
Dan McCoy
[24:59]
You knowā
[24:59]
And now he's relieved.
[25:00]
You know what?
[25:01]
Guys, man plans, God laughs.
[25:05]
You know what I'm saying, guys?
[25:06]
Mm-hmm.
Elliott Kalan
[25:07]
I mean, if the plan is funny enough, God laughs.
[25:09]
Yeah.
[25:09]
Like, if the man's like, I'm gonna put a banana peel down, I'm gonna slip on it and fall, God's like,
[25:13]
That is rich, yes.
[25:15]
Laughter forthcoming, ha-ha.
[25:17]
I don't know if that's much of a plan.
Dan McCoy
[25:18]
Laughter achieved.
[25:19]
Director Paulā
[25:20]
Like, step A is put banana down.
[25:23]
Step B is slip on banana.
[25:25]
That's theā
[25:25]
It's a two-step plan.
Elliott Kalan
[25:26]
Step C, fall.
[25:28]
Look, how complicated does the plan have to be, Dan?
[25:30]
Step D, profit.
[25:31]
It's Occam's prank.
[25:32]
The simplest prank is the best.
[25:34]
You should be the correct one.
[25:35]
Yes.
Stuart Wellington
[25:36]
Yes, Stuart?
[25:37]
At this point, Paul W.S. Anderson has set up all the dominoes and is ready to knock them down.
Elliott Kalan
[25:42]
Oh, yep.
[25:44]
Master story.
[25:45]
Master gameskeeper.
[25:47]
So all the characters are separated byā
[25:49]
His intricate design.
Stuart Wellington
[25:50]
So step one is immediately kill Jared Harris and Carrie-Anne Moss.
Elliott Kalan
[25:55]
Which happens.
[25:56]
Carrie-Anne Moss plays Jared Harris.
Stuart Wellington
[25:58]
That's a wrap on Harris and Moss.
Dan McCoy
[26:02]
Let's get this Mossy Harris out of here.
Elliott Kalan
[26:06]
They call Carrie-Anne Moss Mossy?
[26:08]
Yeah.
[26:09]
Hey, Mossy.
Stuart Wellington
[26:10]
Please don't call me that.
Elliott Kalan
[26:12]
Hey, Mossy-Mo.
Stuart Wellington
[26:13]
I know.
[26:14]
How's that Matrix coming?
Elliott Kalan
[26:16]
Well, it's over.
[26:17]
Thanks.
[26:18]
Hey, you mementoed anything lately?
[26:20]
No.
Dan McCoy
[26:21]
That was one movie I made.
Elliott Kalan
[26:22]
And other movies you made would beā
[26:24]
I can't remember.
[26:27]
Even Carrie-Anne Moss is looking up her IMDb page and like, what did I do?
[26:32]
Anyway.
[26:33]
I'm curious.
Stuart Wellington
[26:34]
You are furious.
Elliott Kalan
[26:35]
Yeah.
[26:36]
The natural disaster separates everybody.
[26:38]
They've got to find each other.
[26:39]
They've got to keep their petty fights going as the city around them is destroyed.
[26:43]
And I will say this.
[26:44]
A lot of this movie looked fake.
Dan McCoy
[26:46]
She was in Chocolat, guys.
Elliott Kalan
[26:48]
Chocolat.
[26:48]
Oh, the Wesker Craven movie?
[26:49]
Chocolat.
[26:50]
And Disturbia.
[26:52]
Oh, yeah.
[26:52]
She was in Disturbia.
[26:54]
Go on.
[26:55]
A lot of this movie looked fake and cheap.
[26:57]
Almost all of it.
[26:58]
The actual erupting effects I thought looked really good.
[27:01]
Okay.
[27:02]
Like, if this was a seven-minute movie that was just shots of Vesuvius erupting, I'd
[27:06]
be like, that was a pretty good movie.
[27:08]
But it's not.
Stuart Wellington
[27:08]
Yeah, I mean, if you're going to call a movie Pompeii, you've got to have good shots of Pompeii
[27:12]
blowing up.
[27:12]
Yeah.
[27:13]
It's the money shot.
[27:14]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[27:14]
Now, when you say Pompeii blowing up, you mean the city, Pompeii.
Stuart Wellington
[27:18]
That's going to be for you to figure out, Elliot.
Elliott Kalan
[27:20]
I've got to puzzle it out.
[27:21]
We've got a regularā
Stuart Wellington
[27:22]
I've got to set up some dominoes you have to knock it down.
Elliott Kalan
[27:23]
We've got a regular house of leaves going on right here.
[27:25]
Yep.
[27:27]
But then the movie getsāit's just people running around and fireballs falling out of
[27:32]
the sky.
[27:33]
It gets pretty monotonous.
[27:34]
The characters are running around.
[27:35]
Eventually, though, Atticus meets up with the henchman, who looks like Anthony Weiner.
[27:42]
And finally, Cassia and Milo meet up with Kiefer Sutherland.
[27:48]
And you have two pretty good fights.
[27:51]
They're not amazing.
[27:53]
Some action sequences as fires falling all around.
[27:55]
And this is when the special effects get so fake that they become fantastic.
[28:01]
Yeah.
[28:01]
It's like something out of a music video from the early 90s.
Dan McCoy
[28:04]
Yeah.
[28:05]
I mean, if you're trying to find consistency with our tastes, like the longtime listenerā
[28:11]
First time caller.
[28:11]
Maybe frustrated trying to stack one opinion of one movie up against the opinion of another
[28:19]
movie.
[28:19]
But the thing is, that's a fool's game in the first place.
[28:23]
It's true.
[28:24]
Sometimes we complain about how stupid CGI looks, but sometimes stupid-looking CGI is
[28:29]
so delightful that we can't help but be shot.
[28:32]
Yeah.
[28:32]
Well, look.
Stuart Wellington
[28:32]
Recently, we watched that other Swords and Sandals movie, 300 Rise of an Empire, which
[28:38]
had, by all means, better special effects.
[28:42]
But they were not as much fun to watch.
[28:44]
No.
[28:44]
No.
Elliott Kalan
[28:44]
Well, it's like an uncanny valley thing where the better special effects get, the better
[28:50]
they are.
[28:51]
And the worse they get, the worse they are.
[28:52]
Except there's this one dip or like a spike where it's like they get so bad that they're
[28:56]
super enjoyable.
[28:57]
Yeah.
[28:58]
Because they look crazy.
Dan McCoy
[28:59]
Emily Browning chained to a chariot that's rushing away from fireballs.
[29:05]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[29:06]
Emily Browning using a splinter of wood to pick the lock of her handcuff on a chariot as fireballs
[29:11]
fly all around and everything is weirdly flattened and distorted and nothing looks like it's
[29:15]
the same plane of reality.
[29:17]
And it's like, it's just so, it looks like you're watching Moulin Rouge or something.
[29:22]
Yeah.
[29:23]
Everything, there's all these weird.
Stuart Wellington
[29:25]
Yeah, like characters riding in front of a backdrop.
[29:27]
And there's all these.
[29:27]
And Robin comes out and sings like a virgin.
[29:29]
Yep.
[29:29]
Where we all go home happy.
Elliott Kalan
[29:31]
It's like, there's all these weird like zooms and slow-mo for no reason and bad CGI
[29:36]
effects.
[29:37]
And it's like.
[29:38]
It's called the Paul W.S. Anderson touch.
[29:40]
Are you guys familiar with the video art of Ryan Trekhartan?
[29:43]
I think his name is Browns.
[29:44]
He did an art video called A Family Finds Entertainment, which is crazy.
[29:49]
And there were parts of the end of Pompeii that reminded me of that.
[29:52]
It's like homemade art video where he's using editing equipment to just make the screen explode
[29:58]
into shards and things like that.
[30:00]
So I guess when you start with youth queer artist homemade video art.
[30:10]
And a big budget sword and sandal action adventure.
[30:13]
And this is the point where the two converge in terms of the quality of their special effects.
[30:18]
And that's kind of a beautiful moment.
[30:20]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[30:21]
Exactly.
[30:22]
And it's punctuated by.
[30:22]
That's what's called the G-spot.
[30:25]
It's very hard to find.
[30:26]
For granted how you find it.
[30:28]
And it ends in a sword fight with Kit Harington, girl spy, and Keith or Sutherland.
[30:36]
Who knows?
Elliott Kalan
[30:37]
And Atticus has his sword fight with Anthony Weiner.
[30:40]
Yeah.
[30:41]
And everyone's swallowed up.
[30:43]
Well, there's those swallowed up by ash.
[30:45]
Keith or Sutherland gets chained to a wall.
[30:48]
And Kit Harington and Emily Browning escape on a horse.
[30:52]
Keith or Sutherland is destroyed, covered in hot, fiery ash.
[30:56]
Mm-hmm.
[30:57]
And they get to the outskirts of town and I guess just get off the horse and canary.
[31:01]
No, the horse.
[31:02]
The horse bucks and rears.
[31:03]
Oh, right.
[31:03]
Knocks him off.
[31:04]
Because a fireball almost kills him.
Stuart Wellington
[31:05]
It's like, you're slowing me down, dudes.
Elliott Kalan
[31:07]
I wish.
[31:08]
No, I just wish it was a wisecracking horse like in racing stripes.
[31:11]
Or hot to trot.
[31:13]
Or a doggo.
[31:15]
Does it?
[31:15]
No, a doggo, the horse does not talk.
Stuart Wellington
[31:17]
Okay, I haven't seen it yet.
[31:18]
Or a sea biscuit.
[31:19]
No, again, no talking horses in that.
[31:21]
I mean, it's named sea biscuit.
[31:22]
It shouldn't be making jokes.
[31:22]
He's like, I see a biscuit, I eat it.
Dan McCoy
[31:25]
It's me, sea biscuit.
[31:26]
It's not named.
Stuart Wellington
[31:27]
That makes sense.
Dan McCoy
[31:29]
See you later.
[31:30]
I've got to run this race now.
[31:32]
Sea biscuit.
[31:33]
Sea biscuit out.
Stuart Wellington
[31:36]
He's not tired of how he speaks to the third person.
[31:40]
I don't think the Oscar chances for this movie are holding up.
Dan McCoy
[31:43]
It's me, the most popular racing horse in the Depression.
[31:46]
Sea biscuit.
[31:48]
See you later.
Elliott Kalan
[31:50]
Biscuit.
[31:53]
It's my new character.
[31:55]
But anyway, they fall off.
[31:58]
Kit Harington says, Cassia, you ride this horse.
[32:00]
It's not fast enough to carry us both.
[32:01]
And she goes.
[32:02]
And you're thinking, oh, they're going to Titanic us.
[32:04]
They're going to pull a Titanic, and she's going to survive.
[32:06]
And 100 years later, she's going to throw a necklace into the moon.
[32:09]
Mount Vesuvius is an old lady.
[32:12]
She's going to take her daughter to Mount Vesuvius and throw a necklace in and go, oh, when she does it.
[32:17]
But no, she smacks the horse in the butt as if to say, run away, I'm sexually harassing you.
[32:22]
And the horse does.
[32:23]
And she says, I don't want to live without you or something.
[32:26]
And she keeps looking at the eruption.
[32:30]
And he says, no, look at me.
[32:31]
Look only at me.
[32:32]
And they kiss and are covered in ash and are forever immortalized as lovers in mid-kiss.
[32:37]
They turn into ash people.
[32:38]
As they become a living statue that is dead.
Stuart Wellington
[32:41]
That's shot in like QVC fashion right before the credits roll.
Elliott Kalan
[32:44]
Yeah, there's like a rotating camera around it.
[32:47]
This beautiful ash statue can be yours.
[32:51]
Pompeii moments.
[32:52]
These ash-covered corpses could be yours for only $499.99.
[32:57]
You know what?
[32:58]
If you call in the next 10 minutes, $7.
[33:01]
We're going to cut over $300 off this price.
[33:03]
Wow, only $7.
[33:04]
Nobody was buying it.
[33:05]
Okay.
[33:06]
Speaking of not buying it.
[33:07]
Well, shipping is $49.99.
[33:09]
Oh, wow.
[33:10]
What a rip.
[33:10]
Shipping is $700,000.
[33:13]
You can either buy shipping for that or you can buy a screenplay for me.
[33:16]
Either way, your choice, Hollywood.
[33:20]
And that's the end of the movie.
[33:22]
Yeah.
[33:24]
It's like a pretty boring rote movie.
[33:26]
And then there's two scenes, I would say, that are just crazy enough to work.
Dan McCoy
[33:31]
Yeah.
[33:32]
I feel like we should go to Final Judgments now.
[33:34]
I was kind of segwaying into that.
[33:35]
Whether this is a good, bad movie.
[33:37]
A bad, bad movie.
[33:38]
Or a movie you kind of liked.
[33:39]
Elliot, you're already saying stuff about it.
[33:42]
So why don't you continue saying the thing that you were saying.
Elliott Kalan
[33:44]
It's like 90% bad, bad.
[33:47]
No, 93% bad, bad.
[33:49]
7% good, bad.
Dan McCoy
[33:52]
Yeah, I'm going to go.
Elliott Kalan
[33:54]
There's such potential at the end for this to have been a crazy, bonkers movie.
[33:59]
And they just, they're putting it off as long as.
[34:01]
You know what it feels like?
[34:02]
It feels like Dr. Jekyll for almost two hours struggling not to let loose Mr. Hyde.
[34:07]
And the last 15 minutes he's like, fuck it, I'll just let Mr. Hyde out.
[34:10]
And everyone's like, yeah, this is what we wanted to see.
[34:13]
This is what Larry keeps coming around for.
[34:15]
This is why Larry's totally into you.
[34:18]
Well, not you, but Hyde.
[34:20]
But you're Hyde.
[34:21]
So I guess he's into you.
Dan McCoy
[34:23]
Yeah, I didn't like the first two thirds of this movie.
[34:26]
I was so bored by them.
[34:28]
The last third, I would go so far as to say I kind of liked it.
[34:33]
But...
[34:33]
It got super hammy, which helped too.
[34:35]
Yeah, it was kind of fun and exciting at the end.
[34:38]
You know, I'll give a good review or two.
[34:41]
Going to see the actual Pompeii.
[34:43]
I saw it when I was in Italy.
[34:44]
Very interesting.
Elliott Kalan
[34:45]
I'd like to see it.
[34:46]
I've never been there.
[34:46]
It's fascinating.
[34:47]
I mean, do you feel bad being a tourist in someone else's misfortune?
Dan McCoy
[34:50]
I mean, it's so far ago now.
Elliott Kalan
[34:54]
Does that make them not human beings?
Dan McCoy
[34:55]
I mean, you go to see it.
Elliott Kalan
[34:56]
Has the statute of limitations on compassion run out?
[34:58]
Do you feel that way when you go see a mummy in the fucking museum?
[35:01]
The mummy was an aristocrat who enslaved others.
[35:05]
I've got no mercy for him.
Dan McCoy
[35:07]
Yeah.
[35:07]
No, but it is fascinating.
[35:08]
Also, they're super scary.
Stuart Wellington
[35:10]
And I stole all his gold and I don't want him to come after me.
[35:14]
It's a whole city.
[35:15]
So I'm going to be preserved in time.
Elliott Kalan
[35:16]
When I'm looking at a mummy in the museum, I'm throwing a shitload of holy water on him
[35:19]
so he doesn't get up and strangle me.
[35:21]
Sure.
Stuart Wellington
[35:21]
Turn into a bunch of scarabs or something.
Elliott Kalan
[35:24]
But it's...
[35:24]
So it's a holy city.
[35:26]
No, it's an amazing...
[35:27]
Oh, a whole city.
[35:28]
Preserved in time.
[35:29]
It's a city full of holes.
[35:30]
And the Steelers canoptic jars.
[35:31]
You don't get that.
[35:32]
It's worth it.
[35:33]
It's worth it.
[35:34]
And now you've got his car and he wants it back.
Dan McCoy
[35:37]
Save up the money you would have spent on seeing Pompeii and then add several thousand dollars
[35:42]
to it and buy a ticket to Italy.
Elliott Kalan
[35:43]
Throw it in change into your travel jar.
[35:45]
And when there's enough there to go to Pompeii, go see it.
[35:48]
Just don't go when Vesuvius is erupting because you'll turn into an Ashman.
[35:51]
That'd be bad news.
Dan McCoy
[35:52]
Ashman Crothers.
[35:53]
What do you have to say?
[35:55]
I'm an Ashman.
[35:56]
You guys all know that about me.
Elliott Kalan
[35:58]
Dan's in other people's wives' ashes, man.
[36:01]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[36:02]
Yeah, I'm going to say this is a bad, bad movie.
[36:04]
I wasn't quite as charmed by the hammy moments.
[36:07]
And I was hoping for more, obviously.
[36:09]
There was that great shot where Kit Harington is about to deface the Roman eagle.
[36:14]
And it cuts like a quick cut zoom on Kiefer Suttleton's face.
[36:18]
And he's like, he's not going to.
[36:21]
But other than that, now it was garbage.
[36:23]
Yeah.
[36:23]
Right.
S4
[36:24]
Baby Geniuses.
[36:26]
Hey, everybody.
[36:27]
I'm Emily.
[36:28]
And I'm Lisa.
[36:28]
We co-host Baby Geniuses every other Monday on Maximum Fun.
Dan McCoy
[36:31]
We interview comedians, musicians, cartoonists, circus clowns, and experts in the field of
S4
[36:35]
Vacations, the afterlife, pool, recipes, self-improvement, fashion candy, beach boys, girls, turtles,
[36:38]
pop twists, women, dating, fitness, presidents, hair removal, conflict resolution, Santa, meditation,
[36:41]
babies, modern dinosaurs, bullying, crop circles, the beetles, middle-aged men, experts, teens,
[36:44]
life hacking, rhyming, baby talks, personal organization, the name Dexter, Frazier, extreme
[36:47]
eating, groceries, being a best friend, movement, jam, art education, America's funniest, home
[36:50]
videos, stockbroking, spooky stories, genealogy, riddles, Pinterest, IT, magic, revenge, mothering,
[36:54]
dog, ayahuasca, Hollywood legends, street racing, fitting in, celebrity sex, the occult, personal
[36:57]
training, the ocean, Dennis the Menace, modern poetry, sugar gliders, Jimmy Buffett,
[37:00]
Franks, the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson, Mountain Dew, theme park safety, dinner parties,
[37:03]
butterflies, raccoons, pasta shapes, and Bob Dylan.
Elliott Kalan
[37:05]
Join us every other Monday!
[37:07]
Yay!
[37:07]
Yay!
S5
[37:10]
I listen to Bullseye for the moment when Jesse asks an artist an insightful question, and the
[37:17]
artist goes, oh, huh, and pauses.
[37:22]
And you can hear in the pause that he is reassessing his own work in light of the question that Jesse
[37:28]
just asked.
Dan McCoy
[37:29]
Bullseye is your guide to what's good, from MaximumFun.org and NPR.
[37:39]
Before we move on to letters, a few quick announcements, as is often the case.
[37:45]
On December the 13th, as I mentioned before, I will be appearing at the Slate Movie Party
[37:53]
in Videology in Williamsburg.
[37:56]
That's at 630.
[37:59]
There will be information about that up, I hope, soon on the Flophouse website.
[38:05]
Details are sketchy still at this point.
Elliott Kalan
[38:06]
You said, I hope soon, as if anyone other than you is going to be putting that up.
Dan McCoy
[38:11]
No, I just meant...
[38:12]
If we can get our tech guy, Jasper, on it.
[38:14]
I just meant that I hope, for the benefit of our audience, that that information will be
[38:19]
available to them soon.
Elliott Kalan
[38:20]
So yeah, put it up there, dude.
Dan McCoy
[38:21]
I'm waiting on Slate to give me the final deets, as the kids say.
Stuart Wellington
[38:27]
He was trying to avoid talking shit about Slate.
[38:29]
Yeah, I see.
[38:30]
But you pushed school parties.
Dan McCoy
[38:31]
Invite him to this party.
[38:33]
But yeah, come see that.
Elliott Kalan
[38:33]
If honesty is your policy, you don't have to worry about that kind of thing.
Dan McCoy
[38:36]
Dana Stevens of Film Creator of Slate will be the host and love other guests.
[38:42]
But if you want to see all of the Flophouse crew, you'll have to wait...
[38:46]
And why wouldn't you?
Elliott Kalan
[38:46]
We're good looking.
[38:47]
Until January 9th?
[38:49]
January 9th.
Stuart Wellington
[38:51]
January 9th.
[38:51]
Why do you say that like it was a question?
[38:53]
At the Bell House?
Elliott Kalan
[38:54]
Dan, if you write this stuff down...
[38:55]
I don't write it down.
[38:56]
...and read it, then it's easy to remember.
[38:57]
But January 9th, 10 p.m., the Bell House, Brooklyn.
[39:02]
All three floppers for the first ever live Flophouse episode recording.
[39:08]
Yeah.
[39:09]
Featuring you, the listener in the audience.
[39:12]
If you've got an irritating laugh, you'll know you're there.
[39:15]
Yeah, totally buy a ticket and show up.
[39:17]
And then when you go, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, and you hear it on the podcast, you'll know you were there.
[39:23]
But yeah, that's going to be...
[39:24]
Buy your tickets online now because, one, they're cheaper if you buy them ahead of time.
[39:28]
And two, they are selling out fast.
[39:30]
They're selling pretty quick, right?
[39:31]
They're selling out a good clip.
[39:32]
So if you want to go and you're on the fence, buy a ticket and go.
Dan McCoy
[39:36]
I overheard.
[39:37]
I was literally sitting behind the organizer of this podfest at an event that Elliot and I got to see.
[39:47]
John Hodgman interviewing John Cleese.
[39:50]
And I overheard him talking about how...
[39:53]
Now, you said that as if we went together.
Elliott Kalan
[39:54]
You were sitting behind him.
[39:55]
I was sitting way in the back because we went...
[39:58]
Well, neither of you guys told me about it.
[39:59]
...a less good job.
Dan McCoy
[40:01]
Because I had to leave work later.
[40:02]
I, as a lowly writer, got to leave work earlier than the head writer, so I got better seats.
[40:06]
Yeah.
[40:07]
But I was sitting behind this gentleman.
Stuart Wellington
[40:07]
He was like, Dan, I need your input on this...
[40:09]
Dan?
[40:10]
Dan died five years ago.
[40:14]
But I literally...
[40:14]
Dan McCoy?
Elliott Kalan
[40:15]
But he died 80 years ago.
Stuart Wellington
[40:18]
I literally...
Elliott Kalan
[40:18]
Some say they can still hear him sighing in the night.
Stuart Wellington
[40:22]
Is that the creaking of the trees or the creaking of his knees?
Elliott Kalan
[40:26]
Women still say they can feel his spectral hand on their buttocks.
[40:30]
And they do not appreciate it.
[40:32]
Special hand.
Dan McCoy
[40:33]
Spectral hand.
[40:34]
Okay.
[40:35]
I overheard a man...
Elliott Kalan
[40:36]
Special hand.
[40:37]
Not the other one.
Dan McCoy
[40:38]
The boring one.
[40:39]
The good one.
[40:39]
Special one.
[40:41]
The tingly one.
[40:42]
I overheard a man who did not know that I was sitting behind him and was one of the co-hosts
[40:47]
of the show.
Elliott Kalan
[40:47]
Didn't know he was sitting in front of Kit Harington, Girl Spy.
Dan McCoy
[40:50]
But he was talking about how well these tickets to the Flophouse show were selling.
[40:55]
So if you want...
Elliott Kalan
[40:56]
I believe he compared them to a certain type of cake of the heated variety.
Dan McCoy
[41:01]
Yeah.
[41:02]
So get on that, guys, if you're interested.
Elliott Kalan
[41:04]
January 9th, 10 p.m.
[41:07]
Friday.
[41:08]
Flophouse Live.
[41:09]
Bellhouse.
[41:10]
New York Podfest.
[41:11]
Buy your tickets now.
[41:12]
And I think we have another thing to plug, don't we?
[41:14]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[41:15]
In December, for Flophouse fans who like to read stuff...
[41:19]
I know there's a few out there.
[41:21]
Dynamite Comics is putting out the Flash Gordon Holiday Special.
[41:26]
Featuring three short stories written by the three of us.
[41:31]
One for each of us.
Elliott Kalan
[41:32]
It's an all-Flophouse written holiday special.
[41:35]
And now these are not Flophouse stories, these are Flash Gordon stories.
Stuart Wellington
[41:37]
These are Flash Gordon stories.
[41:38]
Yeah.
[41:39]
Savior of the universe.
[41:41]
He'll save every one of us.
[41:43]
Yep.
[41:44]
And yeah, it's coming out in December.
[41:46]
I think early December, but I'm not totally sure.
Elliott Kalan
[41:48]
I don't know the exact date, but pre-order it through your comic book store or tell them
[41:52]
to reserve a copy for you and they'll hold it.
Dan McCoy
[41:54]
So if you Google Flash Gordon Holiday and our names, you can find a site that will allow
[41:59]
you to pre-order it on the internet.
Elliott Kalan
[42:02]
And if you Google Flash Gordon Dan McCoy, you'll find some video that's horrifying.
[42:06]
You shouldn't watch it.
Dan McCoy
[42:07]
No, I think you should watch it.
[42:10]
That's what I like.
Elliott Kalan
[42:12]
No, gross.
[42:13]
So the Flash Gordon Holiday special.
[42:14]
And just for me, if you want to read something written by just one flopper, December also
[42:18]
sees the release of the first issue of Spider-Man and the X-Men number one, written by me,
[42:22]
coming from Marvel Comics.
Stuart Wellington
[42:23]
Elliot Kalin, taking over comics.
Elliott Kalan
[42:25]
Taking over comics, two books at a time.
Dan McCoy
[42:28]
But now, it's the moment you've all been waiting for.
[42:32]
What moment's that, Dan?
[42:33]
Listeners.
[42:34]
From listeners.
[42:35]
That's you guys.
[42:37]
The listeners.
Elliott Kalan
[42:37]
You're the listeners.
[42:39]
We're the guys who read the letters from you, the listeners.
[42:44]
Listeners are you, and we are the hosts.
[42:47]
Let's just get this straight.
[42:48]
You're too big for your britches, listeners.
[42:51]
You write us letters.
[42:53]
You think we have to read them.
[42:54]
Well, we don't.
[42:56]
So you sit down.
[42:57]
You sit down, sir.
[42:58]
Sir?
[42:59]
Sir?
[43:00]
Sir?
[43:00]
Do I have to call security?
[43:02]
Sir?
[43:02]
Sit down, sir.
[43:04]
Sir?
[43:04]
There's a show going on.
[43:06]
Sir?
[43:06]
Excuse me.
[43:07]
Excuse me, sir.
[43:07]
What?
[43:08]
Excuse me, sir?
[43:09]
What?
[43:09]
That kind of language is uncalled for.
[43:11]
What?
[43:11]
Sit down, sir.
[43:12]
Huh?
[43:13]
Sir?
[43:13]
Sit down, sir.
[43:14]
What?
[43:15]
Sir?
[43:16]
Sir?
[43:16]
What?
[43:17]
What?
[43:17]
We do not have to serve you, sir.
[43:20]
What?
[43:20]
Sir?
[43:21]
Sir?
[43:21]
You are getting loud, and the performers don't appreciate it, and I don't appreciate it.
[43:25]
What?
Dan McCoy
[43:27]
You and your date are going to have to leave.
[43:29]
I'm sorry, sir.
Elliott Kalan
[43:29]
Sir?
[43:30]
Security, can we remove these, please?
[43:31]
Please?
[43:32]
From you, the listeners today.
Stuart Wellington
[43:35]
Was that the security?
[43:36]
That was the security.
[43:36]
Oh, I thought you said scaredy.
[43:38]
Is that the security guy?
Elliott Kalan
[43:40]
Old scaredy.
[43:41]
We call him scaredy.
[43:42]
It's ironic, because he's not scared of anything.
Dan McCoy
[43:44]
So this first letter is titled, You're Never Gonna Believe This Guy's, parentheses, It's
[43:48]
About The Hat.
Elliott Kalan
[43:50]
And it goes like this.
[43:51]
Wait, hold on a second.
[43:52]
Is this the guy who lost his hat?
[43:53]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[43:54]
The hat's gone again.
Elliott Kalan
[43:55]
What?
[43:56]
How did you lose it again?
Dan McCoy
[43:58]
No, I'm not joking.
[43:59]
Lock that hat up.
[44:00]
And I'm not baiting you to get it on the podcast again.
[44:02]
The hat is seriously gone.
Stuart Wellington
[44:03]
First, they shrink the kids, blow up the kids.
[44:05]
What the fuck, man?
[44:06]
No.
[44:07]
They blow up themselves.
Elliott Kalan
[44:08]
No.
[44:08]
They shrank themselves.
[44:10]
What?
[44:11]
That was the movie about terrorists.
[44:12]
Honey, I blew up myself.
[44:14]
Were you gonna?
[44:14]
Boom.
[44:15]
That was like a Jeff Dunham level joke.
[44:17]
So for listeners who are just coming into this ongoing saga, a guy wrote in who had lost his
[44:23]
hat.
[44:24]
He wrote in later to say he had found his hat.
[44:26]
Apparently, he lost it again.
Dan McCoy
[44:28]
Yeah.
[44:28]
He says, I didn't wear it in winter because it's a baseball cap.
[44:31]
And I have winter hats that are warmer than a baseball cap.
[44:34]
So he wore those hats instead.
[44:36]
Not at the same time, mind you.
[44:37]
I'd pick one winter hat and then wear that in winter.
Elliott Kalan
[44:39]
I'm revoking your license to wear hats.
[44:42]
I'm taking away your double O hat status.
[44:44]
But keep writing.
Dan McCoy
[44:45]
But I don't think the hat is missing.
[44:47]
I think the hat has been stolen.
[44:48]
I've narrowed down my list of suspects from the initial 32 to 16.
[44:52]
So I'm making progress.
[44:54]
Top of my list is my neighbor, Howie.
[44:56]
He's really old and I think he's had kidney stones for like a year and a half, which is
[44:59]
not good for you.
[45:00]
TV's how long.
[45:01]
So I hope he gets that out soon.
[45:02]
Unless he took my hat.
[45:03]
In which case, I hope that thing balloons to the size of a pumpkin and his wife has to
[45:06]
roll him around in a wheelbarrow.
[45:08]
Whoa.
[45:08]
Whoa.
[45:08]
I've invented a new device called a wheelbarrow.
[45:11]
It's a replacement for car tires made basically of an empty barrel.
[45:15]
They break super easily and mostly just destroy cars under carriages.
[45:19]
In any case, here's a photo of me wearing the hat when I was in Boston a long time ago.
[45:22]
Describe it, Dan.
[45:24]
No, I don't have to.
[45:25]
Here, I'm going to show it to you.
[45:26]
No, describe it to the listeners, Dan.
[45:28]
Well, it's just...
[45:29]
They can't see it when you hold them a picture to me.
[45:31]
It seems to be a typical cap of the baseball style.
[45:35]
It doesn't appear to be...
Elliott Kalan
[45:36]
Of the baseball.
[45:37]
In actual...
Dan McCoy
[45:38]
I don't know.
[45:39]
It doesn't seem to be promoting any baseball...
Elliott Kalan
[45:42]
It does seem...
[45:44]
It's hard to tell if there's a logo on there or not.
[45:45]
Yeah, I don't think so.
[45:45]
The angle is very bad.
[45:46]
The person wearing it has at least one eye.
Dan McCoy
[45:48]
It looks a little floppier than a normal baseball cap.
[45:51]
No.
[45:51]
Like a softer type of fabric maybe.
Elliott Kalan
[45:53]
I don't think that's the case.
[45:54]
Canvas?
[45:54]
I think it's just been bent over time.
[45:55]
You think...
[45:56]
It's been well loved.
[45:58]
He mentions that he was wearing the hat in Boston a long time ago.
[46:00]
So Bostonians, you'll recognize this hat.
[46:03]
You'll have the scent.
[46:04]
So I guess go sniff it out.
Dan McCoy
[46:06]
Yeah.
[46:06]
Anyone in Boston...
Elliott Kalan
[46:07]
See which one of the 16 Ronin took it.
Dan McCoy
[46:09]
I'm a baseball cap.
[46:11]
Write in.
[46:12]
Let us know.
[46:13]
We're going to get to the bottom of this.
[46:15]
No, we won't.
[46:17]
Together.
[46:17]
You and us.
[46:19]
You and we.
[46:20]
You're on the flop hats.
[46:20]
All of us.
[46:22]
We're going to solve this.
Elliott Kalan
[46:22]
You and me and everyone we know.
[46:25]
It's going to find this hat.
[46:26]
That's what that movie's about, right?
Dan McCoy
[46:28]
Yeah.
[46:29]
So thank you for writing in.
[46:31]
Nope.
[46:35]
Next letter is titled,
[46:37]
Foggy Friday.
[46:39]
Slightly soggy Saturday.
[46:41]
Wet Wednesday.
[46:42]
Too cold for a tube top Tuesday.
[46:44]
Yes, you're correct, Elliot.
[46:45]
This is an email about Misty Monday.
[46:47]
I don't know why.
[46:48]
I mean, I feel like...
Elliott Kalan
[46:49]
I feel like Dan...
[46:50]
I mean, we all are familiar with the work,
[46:51]
but I feel like Dan's the only one
[46:52]
who has been in contact with her in some way.
[46:55]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[46:55]
Maybe the writer of the letter
[46:57]
is negging Dan to make Dan feel bad.
Elliott Kalan
[46:59]
Oh, in that case,
[47:00]
mission accomplished.
[47:01]
Look at him.
[47:01]
He's crying in his boots.
[47:03]
Crying in his boots.
[47:07]
Collects the tears in his boots.
[47:08]
Little Snuffy Smith.
Dan McCoy
[47:08]
And then Lulu comes up over and sniffs him
[47:11]
like she had howl his boots that one time.
[47:14]
I recently started listening to your back catalog.
[47:18]
It's weird.
[47:18]
And I do a headphone double take
[47:20]
every time you mention Misty Monday.
[47:22]
Prepare to be jealous, boys,
[47:23]
because I've had one of the greatest conversations
[47:25]
of my life with the aforementioned starlet.
Elliott Kalan
[47:27]
Before I get into that conversation...
[47:28]
You put the tarp over here?
[47:32]
Yes, these are the most absorbent tarps
[47:34]
that we have, ma'am.
[47:38]
How many women did you say would be on this tarp?
[47:40]
Six?
[47:41]
I think you're pushing the maximum load.
Stuart Wellington
[47:43]
No, I'll just clean it off with bleach.
[47:45]
It's simple.
[47:46]
Just pour a shallow to bleach.
[47:47]
Nah, don't worry about mixing water with it.
[47:49]
Take it in your back right
[47:50]
and spray it down with the hose.
[47:51]
Now, I thought you were saying this...
[47:52]
Take it in the back and spray it down.
Elliott Kalan
[47:57]
Now, I thought you were saying
[47:58]
this softcore pornographic film of yours
[48:00]
took place in some kind of middle-earth setting.
[48:03]
Do you worry about how you're going to explain the tarp?
[48:05]
No? Okay.
[48:06]
No, all right.
[48:07]
Well, that's the best one we got.
[48:09]
It's a tarp master.
[48:10]
Let's see what the warranty says.
[48:13]
More than four lesbians at once
[48:15]
kind of voids the warranty.
[48:17]
I hope you're okay with that.
[48:18]
I mean, it's not an expensive tarp,
[48:19]
but you would be able to return it
[48:21]
if it was only three lesbians that broke it.
Stuart Wellington
[48:23]
One of the ring race is going to have to not be on the tarp.
Dan McCoy
[48:27]
Well, anyway, this conversation...
[48:28]
One of the ring race.
[48:30]
Before I get into the conversation,
[48:31]
let me back up a bit.
[48:33]
My boring day job consists of sculpting action figures
[48:35]
for video games and comic book movies, etc.
[48:37]
That doesn't sound boring at all.
[48:39]
Every once in a while...
[48:39]
Is this Randy Bowen?
[48:42]
One of my co-workers does some sculpting
[48:44]
for a science fiction or horror film,
[48:46]
and I think,
[48:46]
hey, that sounds like fun.
[48:47]
Maybe I can do that someday.
[48:49]
Well, that day came a few years ago.
[48:51]
I got a call that a B horror film
[48:52]
needed a bunch of classical nude male sculptures,
[48:56]
preferably muscular and in slightly homoerotic poses.
[48:59]
I had about five sculptures
[49:01]
fitting that description ready to go.
[49:03]
When I dropped off the sculptures on set...
[49:04]
Just already?
[49:05]
I guess.
[49:07]
You know.
[49:07]
Just lying around.
Stuart Wellington
[49:08]
Yep.
[49:09]
His apartment is a Zalman King set.
Dan McCoy
[49:13]
When I dropped off the sculptures on set,
[49:15]
I got invited to be an extra in a few scenes.
[49:17]
While waiting around for a scene,
[49:18]
I started talking to Misty of Monday.
[49:20]
Now, at this point,
[49:21]
I had no idea who Misty of Monday was
[49:23]
or the nature of her oeuvre.
[49:24]
All I knew was she's a cute girl,
[49:26]
and this was a splatter flick.
[49:27]
This was our entire conversation.
[49:29]
Me.
[49:30]
So are you going to get killed in this scene?
[49:32]
Misty.
[49:33]
No, but I do get a death scene.
[49:34]
We're filming it in a few days.
[49:36]
Me.
[49:37]
Nice.
[49:37]
How do you check out?
[49:39]
Misty.
[49:39]
I get stabbed in the pussy.
[49:42]
Me.
[49:43]
Silence.
[49:44]
At that point,
[49:45]
I started to realize
[49:46]
what kind of movie this was going to be.
[49:46]
And then she went,
Stuart Wellington
[49:47]
show business.
Dan McCoy
[49:49]
In case you're wondering,
[49:50]
it does contain ding-dong ripping,
[49:51]
incest,
[49:52]
and a plethora of real New Jersey bodybuilders.
[49:55]
The name of this movie?
[49:56]
Sculpture.
[49:57]
Alex Lasting with help.
[49:58]
I don't know that movie.
Stuart Wellington
[49:59]
I'm really only familiar
[50:00]
with her seduction cinema work.
[50:02]
Yeah.
[50:03]
Well, check it out, though.
[50:04]
It sounds like a pretty good recommendation.
[50:05]
Yeah, sure.
[50:06]
It's got ding-dong rip-offs.
[50:07]
Yeah.
[50:08]
Homorotic sculptures.
[50:09]
Everything you want in a movie.
Elliott Kalan
[50:11]
Yeah, I mean,
[50:12]
that's what I mainly look for in my movies.
[50:14]
King Kong?
[50:14]
No thanks.
[50:15]
No homorotic sculpture in this.
Dan McCoy
[50:18]
But a real brush with greatness.
[50:21]
Thanks for letting us know.
[50:23]
Real Hollywood tales.
[50:25]
You're on the Flophouse.
[50:26]
True Hollywood stories.
Elliott Kalan
[50:28]
So I guess if Misty Monday is listening,
[50:29]
tell us if that story actually happened.
[50:32]
We need cooperation.
Dan McCoy
[50:32]
Or just come visit.
[50:34]
Be on the show.
[50:35]
Yeah, sure.
[50:36]
I guess, yeah.
[50:37]
Aaron Brown, talk to us.
Elliott Kalan
[50:39]
Is this an official invitation?
Dan McCoy
[50:41]
Yeah, no, this is official.
[50:42]
Wait, we can just start inviting people
Stuart Wellington
[50:43]
to be on the show?
[50:44]
If anyone knows Aaron Brown,
Dan McCoy
[50:45]
I guess so.
[50:45]
Tell her to come.
[50:47]
Tell her about the podcast.
[50:48]
I'm going to start working on.
[50:49]
Who knows?
[50:50]
Mads Mikkelsen.
Elliott Kalan
[50:51]
Invite him on, sure.
[50:52]
Whoa, no kidding?
[50:52]
Yeah, ask him to come on, Dan.
Stuart Wellington
[50:54]
Both of them at the same time.
[50:54]
Mads about Misty Monday.
Dan McCoy
[50:56]
Mads about Monday.
[50:58]
And Misty Monday, nay Aaron Brown.
Elliott Kalan
[51:00]
What about Udo Kier?
[51:01]
Udo Kier, if you're listening,
[51:03]
come on the show.
[51:03]
Yeah, I mean, he's got some free time.
[51:05]
David Byrne?
[51:06]
David Byrne, come on.
[51:07]
David Byrne, come on.
[51:07]
David Byrne, come on.
Stuart Wellington
[51:07]
All of our heroes.
[51:10]
Wait, you didn't say Gabriel Byrne,
Dan McCoy
[51:12]
because I don't want him to come on the show.
Stuart Wellington
[51:13]
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Gabriel Byrne.
Dan McCoy
[51:15]
He's probably got some stories about Miller's Crossing,
[51:17]
but they're probably,
[51:18]
he probably tells them very boring.
Stuart Wellington
[51:19]
I only want to ask him about Cool World.
[51:24]
Was it cool to make cool?
[51:25]
What was it like to have sex with a cartoon?
[51:29]
Did you guys,
[51:30]
was it awesome?
[51:31]
Where did your penis go
[51:32]
when you had sex with a cartoon?
[51:34]
What happened?
[51:34]
I mean, Misty Monday
[51:35]
could probably answer that too.
Dan McCoy
[51:38]
So,
[51:39]
this last letter
[51:42]
is from
[51:43]
PJ Last Name Withheld.
[51:46]
Funny Bunny.
[51:48]
It's titled
[51:49]
Recasting Gary Oldman's Dick.
[51:52]
I'm growing increasingly concerned
[51:54]
about the Flophouse's ongoing obsession
[51:56]
with Gary Oldman's
[51:57]
shriveled, unimpressive penis.
[51:59]
We mentioned it like once.
[52:00]
Far be it from me
[52:01]
to claim you doth protest too much,
[52:03]
but do you have to be so negative?
[52:05]
If Gary Oldman's penis
[52:06]
had such a harmful impact
[52:07]
on the Scarlet Letter,
[52:09]
why not provide
[52:09]
some constructive criticism?
[52:11]
As you'll recall,
[52:13]
Stewart has already spoken
[52:14]
admiringly about
[52:16]
Michael Fassbender's penis.
[52:18]
Yeah.
[52:18]
Elliot would probably enjoy
[52:19]
seeing Sly Stallone
[52:21]
returning to his early
[52:22]
pornographic roles.
[52:24]
And Dan is a homophobe.
[52:25]
Not true.
[52:26]
But what celebrity fouls
[52:27]
could have saved this movie.
[52:29]
Obviously,
[52:30]
the castle freak is out.
[52:31]
Maybe the world would like to see
[52:33]
Vincent Gallo's penis
[52:34]
unobscured by Chloe Sevigny.
[52:36]
A massive prosthesis.
[52:38]
Is that how you pronounce that?
[52:38]
I don't know.
[52:39]
A massive prosthesis
[52:40]
a la Boogie Nights.
[52:42]
Regardless,
[52:42]
I see a real business opportunity
[52:44]
for the Flophouse
[52:45]
in opening a male nudity version
[52:46]
of Mr. Skin.
[52:48]
I think it already exists,
[52:49]
but this is off the top of my head.
[52:51]
It's called Mrs. Skin.
[52:51]
But you could call it
[52:52]
Mr. Foreskin
[52:53]
and the logo would just be
[52:54]
the Flophouse logo,
[52:55]
but you'd all be wearing
[52:56]
turtlenecks.
[52:57]
My main concern is that
[52:59]
the site would break up the gang
[53:00]
as Ding Dong Gate
[53:01]
would finally tear you apart
[53:03]
debating whether or not
[53:04]
to include the castle freak.
[53:06]
If you go forward with it,
[53:07]
I demand $700,000
[53:08]
in repayment
[53:09]
for providing the idea
[53:10]
It's always $700,000.
[53:12]
That's a good amount of money.
[53:13]
Funny money.
[53:16]
I'm on record
[53:17]
as being a Gary Oldman apologist.
[53:20]
Specifically for his penis?
Stuart Wellington
[53:22]
For his penis.
[53:22]
Specifically for his penis.
[53:23]
What record is this?
[53:24]
He was saying that
[53:25]
because it's not a cold lake.
Elliott Kalan
[53:26]
Is that a gold record
[53:27]
that they put on the satellite
[53:28]
and sent into space?
[53:29]
He's jumping around
Dan McCoy
[53:30]
on a cold lake.
[53:31]
You cannot judge a man's penis by...
Elliott Kalan
[53:33]
You don't have to use a cold lake
[53:35]
just for a cold lake scene.
[53:39]
I've seen impressive
[53:40]
flaccid penises in movies.
[53:42]
Yeah, but a flaccid penis
Dan McCoy
[53:43]
gives no...
[53:44]
You can't judge...
[53:45]
And in my own life
[53:46]
every time I look in the mirror.
[53:47]
Sure, boom.
Elliott Kalan
[53:48]
So you're saying that Gary...
[53:50]
So Dan is on the record
[53:51]
saying Gary Oldman
[53:51]
is a grower,
[53:52]
not a shower.
[53:53]
Exactly.
[53:53]
Sure.
[53:54]
Look, Gary Oldman's penis
[53:55]
is fine.
[53:56]
I'm just saying
[53:56]
it's not the kind of penis
[53:57]
that would drive
[53:58]
a Puritan woman
[53:59]
to mad desire.
[54:01]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[54:03]
To masturbate in the bath
[54:04]
while a comely serving lady
[54:06]
looks on.
[54:07]
Looks on puckishly.
Elliott Kalan
[54:08]
Was there like
[54:09]
a magic butterfly
[54:10]
or something?
[54:11]
I don't know.
[54:11]
I think that...
[54:12]
Like a magic bird?
Dan McCoy
[54:14]
Yeah, it was a bird
[54:15]
or something
[54:15]
representing sex.
[54:18]
I guess.
[54:19]
The red bird of sex.
Elliott Kalan
[54:21]
The red bird of sex.
[54:22]
The blue bird
[54:22]
of unhappinesses.
Dan McCoy
[54:25]
Much more popular sister.
[54:27]
Yeah.
[54:28]
So,
[54:30]
but recasting
[54:30]
Gary Oldman's penis.
[54:32]
I mean,
[54:33]
just take a plaster cast of it
[54:34]
so we have it for history.
[54:36]
Maybe we could recast it
[54:38]
with like the weasel
[54:38]
from Food Fight.
Stuart Wellington
[54:41]
Kind of look like a penis.
[54:42]
What about...
[54:43]
One of the shy halud
[54:44]
from Dune.
Elliott Kalan
[54:45]
What about like
[54:45]
lowly worm
[54:46]
from the Richard Scarry books?
[54:47]
Yeah.
[54:48]
Yeah.
[54:50]
Got a lot of personality.
[54:52]
There's a little hat
[54:53]
with a feather in it.
[54:54]
Now,
[54:54]
if Demi Moore
[54:55]
was stumbling
[54:56]
through the forest
[54:57]
and saw Gary Oldman
[54:58]
and his penis
[54:58]
had a little hat
[54:59]
with a feather on it,
[55:00]
she would have to run
[55:01]
to that bathtub
[55:02]
to masturbate
[55:03]
or else she's just
[55:03]
doing it in the woods
[55:04]
right there.
Stuart Wellington
[55:05]
Yep.
[55:05]
Or maybe we could go down
[55:06]
to an Aztec temple
[55:07]
and summon Quetzalcoatl.
[55:09]
Ah,
[55:09]
the winged serpent,
[55:10]
huh?
[55:11]
And videotape
[55:12]
and then stick that
[55:12]
in the movie.
[55:13]
Yeah.
[55:14]
So,
[55:15]
I hope that answered
Elliott Kalan
[55:15]
your question.
[55:16]
Yep.
[55:17]
And now...
[55:18]
You know what?
[55:18]
Beaker.
[55:19]
Yeah.
[55:19]
Just stuff Beaker on him.
[55:21]
And so his penis
[55:22]
is going...
Dan McCoy
[55:22]
It's a very selfish penis.
[55:27]
All he cares about
[55:27]
is me.
Elliott Kalan
[55:29]
What about her needs?
[55:30]
Oh.
[55:31]
Oh.
[55:33]
Dan,
[55:33]
did you just kick me
[55:34]
in the gut
[55:35]
with your words?
[55:37]
Oh,
[55:38]
I gotta...
[55:38]
Oh,
[55:38]
boy.
[55:39]
I gotta sit
Dan McCoy
[55:39]
the rest of this episode out.
[55:41]
You know,
[55:42]
nothing makes me happier...
[55:43]
The one thing
[55:44]
that makes me happier
[55:45]
than a laugh
[55:45]
from Elliot
[55:46]
is the sound
[55:48]
of moans of pain.
[55:50]
Anything that makes you
[55:52]
drive Elliot away
[55:53]
from comedy
[55:54]
in its entirety.
Elliott Kalan
[55:54]
It's a good thing
[55:55]
I already had a child
[55:56]
because I don't think
[55:56]
I can have one anymore
[55:57]
after that joke.
Dan McCoy
[55:59]
So,
[56:00]
this is the last segment
[56:01]
of the show.
[56:02]
It's where we recommend
[56:03]
movies that we actually liked
[56:04]
rather than Pompeii.
[56:06]
I'm gonna go first
[56:07]
because I think
[56:07]
this is gonna be
[56:08]
a controversial recommendation.
[56:10]
Pompeii.
[56:11]
Don't speak.
[56:12]
I'm gonna recommend
[56:13]
a movie that
[56:15]
I don't necessarily think
[56:16]
is a particularly good movie
Stuart Wellington
[56:18]
but it's one
[56:19]
that I've had
Dan McCoy
[56:19]
a lot of fun watching.
[56:21]
I've already recommended that.
[56:23]
Whenever I come across
[56:24]
this movie on television,
[56:27]
I usually stop,
[56:29]
watch it for a while,
[56:29]
and thank you, baby.
[56:30]
Open up shop.
[56:31]
Yeah.
[56:31]
What's such a
[56:32]
open up shop,
[56:33]
you said?
[56:33]
Yeah, yeah, DMX.
[56:34]
Oh, I don't know that one.
[56:35]
Is that a bike?
Elliott Kalan
[56:38]
DMX bandits?
[56:39]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[56:40]
It's another movie
[56:41]
about a volcano erupting
[56:43]
in a highly populated city
[56:45]
and it's called
[56:46]
Volcano.
[56:47]
Alright, basic title.
Elliott Kalan
[56:49]
Tommy Lee Jones
[56:50]
and Anne Heche.
Dan McCoy
[56:52]
And Annette Heche.
[56:54]
It was at the height
[56:55]
of her popularity, right?
Elliott Kalan
[56:56]
Yeah.
[56:57]
Was she the former
[56:58]
Mrs. Ellen DeGeneres then
[56:59]
or not yet?
Dan McCoy
[57:00]
I don't know.
[57:01]
I don't know whether
[57:02]
this was either pre
[57:03]
or during Ellen DeGeneres.
[57:05]
Okay.
[57:05]
This was not post
[57:05]
her relationship
[57:08]
with Ms. DeGeneres.
[57:10]
But this was
[57:11]
it's a silly
[57:13]
disaster movie
[57:14]
but it builds nicely.
[57:18]
The ridiculousness
[57:19]
of it is all fun.
[57:21]
I enjoy the fact
[57:22]
that they use
[57:23]
concrete barricades
[57:24]
to make lava
[57:26]
flow down to the ocean.
[57:28]
That's their big plan.
[57:30]
Tommy Lee Jones
[57:31]
is barking out orders
[57:32]
as LA's
[57:33]
like disaster preparedness.
[57:34]
I want you to search
Stuart Wellington
[57:35]
every hen house,
[57:36]
dog house,
[57:36]
cat house
[57:37]
for this volcano.
[57:38]
I just remembered
[57:39]
a lot of it took place
[57:39]
in a subway tunnel
[57:40]
and then some dude
[57:41]
got all melted by that.
Dan McCoy
[57:45]
It's got fun
[57:47]
like
Elliott Kalan
[57:47]
it's got fun
[57:48]
volcano effects
[57:49]
and sound mixing
[57:50]
and shit.
[57:51]
This is fun, bro.
[57:52]
If you like it,
[57:53]
go with it.
Dan McCoy
[57:53]
At the end of it,
[57:54]
there's a big volcano
[57:55]
in the middle of LA
[57:56]
and they play
[57:57]
I Love LA
[57:58]
over the credits.
[57:59]
Yeah.
[57:59]
It's fun.
[58:00]
No, it's fun.
[58:01]
No, yeah.
[58:01]
It's a laugh.
[58:02]
It's a larf.
[58:02]
It's a larf.
[58:03]
Check your brain
[58:04]
at the door.
[58:04]
Yeah.
[58:05]
No, literally.
[58:05]
I mean,
[58:06]
in this case,
[58:06]
actually,
[58:07]
check your brain
[58:07]
at the door,
[58:07]
but you'll have
[58:08]
a lot more fun
[58:08]
watching it
[58:09]
than Pompeii.
[58:09]
So it's a good,
[58:10]
bad movie.
[58:11]
You know,
[58:12]
it's a movie
[58:12]
I kind of like.
[58:13]
I know it's bad,
[58:14]
but I still enjoy it.
Stuart Wellington
[58:15]
Yeah, just pop some
[58:16]
Redenbockers.
[58:17]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[58:18]
Stick it up your ass.
[58:20]
Whoa.
[58:20]
Whoa.
[58:21]
Whoa.
[58:22]
Whoa, Dan.
[58:23]
What is going on?
[58:24]
Are you a volcano drunk?
Elliott Kalan
[58:27]
I don't know what's happening.
[58:32]
Oh, man.
Stuart Wellington
[58:33]
Okay, so.
Elliott Kalan
[58:35]
Dan is not sick anymore,
[58:36]
yet somehow,
[58:38]
it still doesn't make sense.
Stuart Wellington
[58:41]
Am I allowed to recommend
[58:42]
a movie now?
[58:42]
I hope so, please.
[58:44]
Who knows,
Elliott Kalan
[58:45]
at any minute,
[58:45]
Dan's going to start
[58:46]
sticking things up butts.
Stuart Wellington
[58:47]
I'm going to recommend
[58:48]
a New Zealand horror comedy
[58:51]
that I think should be
[58:53]
made available
[58:54]
in most streaming services.
[58:56]
I think you can rent it
[58:57]
in most streaming services now.
[58:58]
It's called Housebound.
[59:00]
It is an interesting
[59:03]
little horror comedy,
[59:04]
basically a haunted house story
[59:08]
about a young woman
[59:10]
who has a criminal background
[59:12]
who is sentenced
[59:14]
to house arrest
[59:16]
in her mother's house.
[59:18]
And she realizes
[59:19]
that her crazy mother,
[59:21]
that the stories
[59:23]
her crazy mother tells
[59:24]
about the house being haunted
[59:25]
might actually be true.
[59:28]
And the interesting things,
[59:30]
they do some good stuff
[59:31]
with playing with
[59:32]
the actual space,
[59:34]
like the limitations
[59:34]
of being actually
[59:35]
under house arrest
[59:37]
with an ankle monitor.
[59:38]
And the lead
[59:40]
is very charming,
[59:41]
and she's also
[59:41]
very capable.
[59:43]
But like a lot of
[59:44]
horror comedies,
[59:47]
after the,
[59:48]
you know,
[59:49]
the setup is great,
[59:50]
and the first two thirds
[59:51]
are a lot of fun
[59:52]
and it kind of drags
[59:53]
in the final third.
[59:54]
It could probably
[59:55]
use some editing.
[59:56]
But there's also
[59:57]
a couple of good scenes
[59:58]
of really gory stuff,
[59:59]
so I like that.
Dan McCoy
[1:00:00]
So a couple of
[1:00:01]
qualified recommendations.
Elliott Kalan
[1:00:02]
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:00:03]
Okay, well I'm going to give
[1:00:04]
two unqualified recommendations.
[1:00:07]
Do it.
[1:00:07]
The first is a movie
[1:00:08]
that I hadn't thought
[1:00:09]
originally about
[1:00:09]
recommending tonight,
[1:00:10]
but it's a similar type
[1:00:12]
of movie to what we watched.
[1:00:13]
It's not based on
[1:00:13]
a real natural disaster,
[1:00:15]
but it's based on
[1:00:15]
real-ish types of things.
[1:00:18]
And that's the movie
[1:00:19]
The Hurricane,
[1:00:20]
directed by John Ford.
[1:00:21]
This is the 30s,
[1:00:22]
The Hurricane.
[1:00:23]
Not the movie
[1:00:23]
The Hurricane starring
[1:00:25]
Denzel Washington
[1:00:25]
about Hurricane Carter.
[1:00:27]
Based on the Bob Dylan song.
[1:00:28]
Yeah.
[1:00:29]
And the drink.
[1:00:30]
The song is based
[1:00:31]
on a real person too.
[1:00:32]
I don't think so.
[1:00:33]
This is The Hurricane
[1:00:34]
directed by John Ford
[1:00:37]
with John Hall,
[1:00:38]
Dorothy L'Amour,
[1:00:38]
and a number of
[1:00:39]
star character actors
[1:00:41]
of Hollywood's yesteryear
[1:00:42]
such as C. Aubrey Smith,
[1:00:43]
Thomas Mitchell,
[1:00:44]
Raymond Massey,
[1:00:45]
John Carradine.
[1:00:45]
It's got a great cast.
[1:00:46]
And me, Seabiscuit.
[1:00:48]
Nope.
[1:00:49]
The world's most popular horse.
[1:00:50]
Nope, not in it at all.
[1:00:52]
And it's about a...
[1:00:52]
See you later.
[1:00:54]
To a man and woman
[1:00:56]
who love each other
[1:00:56]
on a Polynesian island,
[1:00:58]
the man is goaded by...
[1:01:01]
He's a sailor
[1:01:02]
and he's goaded
[1:01:02]
by a racist white man
[1:01:04]
in a bar.
[1:01:05]
What does goaded mean?
Stuart Wellington
[1:01:07]
Like he gets turned
[1:01:07]
into a goat?
Elliott Kalan
[1:01:08]
Yeah, yeah.
[1:01:08]
Goaded.
[1:01:09]
Goaded.
[1:01:09]
No, he's taunted.
[1:01:11]
He's goaded
[1:01:12]
and he's taunted
[1:01:13]
into fighting
[1:01:13]
and is thrown in jail
[1:01:15]
and he tries to escape.
[1:01:17]
He's taunt, taunt
[1:01:18]
into fighting.
[1:01:19]
He tries to escape
[1:01:20]
to get back
[1:01:20]
to the woman he loves
[1:01:21]
and each escape
[1:01:22]
tacks more time
[1:01:23]
onto his sentence.
[1:01:24]
And so he's ground down
[1:01:25]
by the system
[1:01:26]
until finally a hurricane
[1:01:27]
is going to arrive
[1:01:28]
on his island
[1:01:28]
right when he escapes
[1:01:30]
successfully
[1:01:31]
and the hurricane scenes
[1:01:33]
when they hit
[1:01:34]
are genuinely frightening
[1:01:36]
to me.
[1:01:36]
I felt like there's
[1:01:37]
every...
[1:01:38]
It's this weird thing
[1:01:39]
because it's a movie
[1:01:39]
from 1937
[1:01:40]
so that you'll see
[1:01:41]
one shot
[1:01:41]
that looks super fake
[1:01:42]
and another shot
[1:01:43]
edited a second later in
[1:01:45]
that looks very real
[1:01:46]
and is very scary.
[1:01:48]
Like it looks like
[1:01:48]
these people are in danger
[1:01:49]
from this hurricane.
[1:01:50]
And so a lot of the effects
[1:01:52]
hold up really well.
[1:01:52]
Not all of them.
[1:01:53]
It's a very,
[1:01:54]
you know,
[1:01:54]
naive, simplistic tale
[1:01:55]
of love between
[1:01:57]
kind of what
[1:01:58]
Hollywood's idea
[1:01:59]
of Tahitian villagers
[1:02:00]
would have been
[1:02:01]
at the time.
[1:02:03]
But it's a really good
[1:02:04]
old-fashioned
[1:02:04]
kind of like
[1:02:05]
pulpy romance
[1:02:07]
adventure movie
[1:02:08]
of a type that Pompeii
[1:02:09]
wants to be
[1:02:09]
and doesn't quite pull off.
[1:02:11]
So The Hurricane
[1:02:11]
I'd recommend
[1:02:12]
based on this movie.
[1:02:13]
But also,
[1:02:13]
I was originally
[1:02:14]
going to recommend
[1:02:14]
a movie I saw recently
[1:02:15]
that I liked
[1:02:16]
called The Chant
[1:02:17]
of Jimmy Blacksmith
[1:02:18]
which is an Australian
[1:02:19]
movie from the late 70s
[1:02:21]
about,
[1:02:22]
that takes place
[1:02:23]
at the turn
[1:02:23]
of the 20th century
[1:02:24]
and it's based
[1:02:26]
on a novel
[1:02:26]
that was based on a,
[1:02:28]
adapted from a true story
[1:02:29]
about an aborigine
[1:02:31]
who was raised
[1:02:32]
by white parents
[1:02:34]
and tried to do
[1:02:35]
his best to kind of
[1:02:37]
make something of himself
[1:02:38]
in the Australia
[1:02:39]
of the time
[1:02:39]
which was,
[1:02:41]
at the time,
[1:02:41]
horrifically racist
[1:02:42]
against aborigines.
[1:02:43]
Now I guess it's just
[1:02:44]
maybe a little bit.
[1:02:45]
But he is so beaten
[1:02:47]
down by the system
[1:02:48]
that he snaps
[1:02:49]
and commits
[1:02:49]
a horrifically violent crime
[1:02:51]
and has to go on the run
[1:02:53]
and is being hunted down
[1:02:54]
by the Australian
[1:02:55]
police and army.
[1:02:57]
And so it manages
[1:02:59]
to tell like
[1:03:00]
an anti-racism story
[1:03:01]
in a way that doesn't feel
[1:03:03]
totally heavy-handed
[1:03:05]
and stupid and dull.
[1:03:07]
And there are a lot
[1:03:07]
of very affecting scenes
[1:03:08]
in it.
[1:03:09]
And the lead guy
[1:03:09]
who I think was not
[1:03:10]
a professional actor
[1:03:11]
when he made the movie
[1:03:12]
is really good in it
[1:03:13]
as Jimmy Blacksmith.
[1:03:14]
So The Hurricane
[1:03:15]
for adventure,
[1:03:16]
for fans of
[1:03:17]
weather
[1:03:17]
and weather-based adventures
[1:03:19]
and the chant
[1:03:20]
of Jimmy Blacksmith
[1:03:21]
for fans of Blacksmiths.
[1:03:22]
For fans of Blacksmiths.
[1:03:23]
How's the weather
[1:03:24]
in that?
[1:03:25]
It's pretty nice mostly.
[1:03:26]
There's a few rainstorms
[1:03:27]
but otherwise
[1:03:28]
for fans of
[1:03:29]
older Australian films.
[1:03:31]
All right.
Dan McCoy
[1:03:33]
We did it, dudes.
[1:03:34]
Yeah.
[1:03:34]
Another
[1:03:35]
sword and sandal movie
[1:03:37]
down.
Elliott Kalan
[1:03:38]
Dude, can we
[1:03:38]
not watch any more of these?
Dan McCoy
[1:03:40]
Maybe we'll stop.
[1:03:41]
Thank you.
[1:03:41]
Oh, man.
Elliott Kalan
[1:03:43]
Of all the
[1:03:43]
inexplicably
[1:03:44]
returning trends,
[1:03:46]
sword and sandal
[1:03:46]
is a weird one.
Dan McCoy
[1:03:47]
Well, here's a good,
[1:03:48]
here's something
[1:03:49]
to keep your spirits up.
[1:03:51]
I think next episode
[1:03:53]
we'll do the contest
[1:03:54]
winner listener choice
[1:03:57]
from our
[1:03:58]
Song of the Autumn.
[1:04:00]
And that choice was...
[1:04:02]
Are we going to say
[1:04:03]
ahead of time?
[1:04:04]
No, let's keep it
[1:04:05]
as a surprise for now.
[1:04:05]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[1:04:06]
Okay.
[1:04:06]
It's not another
[1:04:07]
Hercules movie, right?
[1:04:08]
Let's just assume
[1:04:08]
it's Ghostbusters
[1:04:09]
and that we're going
[1:04:10]
to have a great time
[1:04:11]
watching it.
Dan McCoy
[1:04:12]
And we'll have no
[1:04:12]
criticisms of it
[1:04:13]
and we'll just
[1:04:14]
spend an hour
[1:04:14]
talking about it.
Elliott Kalan
[1:04:15]
The only criticism
[1:04:17]
will be that
[1:04:17]
Ghostbusters 3
[1:04:18]
hasn't gotten off
[1:04:19]
and been made yet
[1:04:20]
because the world
[1:04:21]
is calling out
[1:04:22]
for a third
[1:04:22]
Ghostbusters.
[1:04:23]
I thought I was
[1:04:23]
that Save Another Day
Stuart Wellington
[1:04:24]
song or whatever.
[1:04:25]
Saving the Day?
[1:04:26]
Saving the Day, yeah.
[1:04:27]
Save Another Day?
[1:04:28]
Save Another Day.
[1:04:28]
That's for the
[1:04:29]
fucking sequel
[1:04:29]
or something.
[1:04:30]
Yeah, yeah.
[1:04:30]
The James Bond
Dan McCoy
[1:04:31]
Ghostbusters crossover.
Elliott Kalan
[1:04:34]
Tomorrow never
[1:04:35]
bust.
[1:04:38]
Ghost finger.
[1:04:40]
Such a ghost
[1:04:42]
finger.
[1:04:44]
A spider's ghost.
Stuart Wellington
[1:04:47]
That's Ghostfinger.
[1:04:48]
Octobusty.
Elliott Kalan
[1:04:50]
Die and let bust.
[1:04:50]
I mean, it kind of
[1:04:51]
was Octobusty already.
[1:04:54]
Doctor Ghost.
Dan McCoy
[1:04:56]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[1:04:57]
You only live twice
[1:04:58]
if one of the times
[1:04:59]
you count is when
[1:05:00]
you're a ghost.
Dan McCoy
[1:05:02]
So I guess that's
[1:05:04]
the end of the podcast.
[1:05:05]
We can keep going
[1:05:06]
with these James
[1:05:07]
ghosting bus lights
[1:05:09]
that we've been making
[1:05:10]
for the podcast
[1:05:13]
called The Flophouse.
[1:05:14]
I've been Dan McCoy.
Stuart Wellington
[1:05:16]
Yeah, I'm also
[1:05:16]
on The Flophouse
[1:05:17]
and my calling
[1:05:18]
is Stuart Wellington.
[1:05:19]
Your calling?
Dan McCoy
[1:05:21]
This really is
[1:05:22]
an avocation.
Elliott Kalan
[1:05:24]
And I'm on
[1:05:25]
The Flophouse too
[1:05:26]
through some
[1:05:27]
bizarre blessing
[1:05:28]
bestowed upon me
[1:05:29]
by a merciful God
[1:05:30]
and my name
[1:05:31]
is Elliot Kalin.
[1:05:32]
Good night, everyone.
[1:05:35]
See you later.
[1:05:36]
Sea Biscuit.
Stuart Wellington
[1:05:45]
Dan, which Cenobite
[1:05:47]
would you not want
[1:05:48]
you to jack you off?
Dan McCoy
[1:05:51]
Would I not mind
[1:05:52]
jacking off?
Stuart Wellington
[1:05:53]
No, if you...
[1:05:54]
No, no, no.
[1:05:54]
No, no, no.
[1:05:56]
Wait a minute.
[1:05:56]
Wait, we have to
[1:05:58]
jack off a Cenobite now?
Elliott Kalan
[1:06:00]
Dan, you totally
[1:06:01]
misunderstood who
[1:06:02]
was doing the jacking
[1:06:03]
of who.
[1:06:05]
Although,
Stuart Wellington
[1:06:06]
he has a really good point.
[1:06:07]
This is a really good point.
Elliott Kalan
[1:06:08]
So, Dan,
[1:06:09]
answer the question.
[1:06:11]
Um, wait.
Stuart Wellington
[1:06:12]
That's gonna put
[1:06:13]
new meaning to the term
[1:06:14]
yanking my chain.
[1:06:15]
I don't remember.
[1:06:16]
Because they have
[1:06:17]
chains for penis.
[1:06:18]
They call them
[1:06:19]
pinballers.
Dan McCoy
[1:06:20]
I remember
[1:06:21]
the night breeds.
[1:06:22]
There was that
[1:06:22]
moon face.
[1:06:23]
Yeah, and night breeds
[1:06:25]
all dudes
[1:06:25]
jacking each other off.
Elliott Kalan
[1:06:29]
Okay, fine.
[1:06:30]
Which Smurf
[1:06:31]
would you rather
[1:06:32]
have sex with, Dan?
[1:06:33]
Can't say Lady Smurf.
Stuart Wellington
[1:06:35]
Vanity Smurf
[1:06:35]
is off the table.
Elliott Kalan
[1:06:38]
You're taking a lot
[1:06:39]
off the table.
[1:06:40]
Vanity Smurf
Stuart Wellington
[1:06:40]
is watching.
Elliott Kalan
[1:06:42]
You choose between
[1:06:42]
Papa Smurf
[1:06:43]
with the other ones.
[1:06:46]
Book Smurf
[1:06:46]
with the other ones.
[1:06:47]
There's a bigger Smurf.
[1:06:48]
Cook Smurf.
Stuart Wellington
[1:06:49]
You hook up
[1:06:50]
with Brainy Smurf?
Dan McCoy
[1:06:52]
Look,
[1:06:54]
it's like
[1:06:54]
Revenge of the Nerds
[1:06:55]
taught us.
[1:06:56]
Nerds just think about sex.
Elliott Kalan
[1:06:57]
You choose Papa Smurf
[1:06:58]
because he's been
[1:06:59]
around the block.
[1:06:59]
He knows a few tricks.
[1:07:01]
Yeah, I was gonna do
[1:07:01]
He's a real bear.
[1:07:03]
That's true.
[1:07:04]
Yeah, I guess.
[1:07:04]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[1:07:06]
And if you blur your eyes,
[1:07:07]
his beard makes
[1:07:08]
his face look like
[1:07:09]
a vagina.
[1:07:10]
What?
Elliott Kalan
[1:07:11]
I don't think so.
[1:07:13]
I'm gonna call
[1:07:14]
no on that.
Stuart Wellington
[1:07:15]
I'd pick
[1:07:16]
Is there a Baker Smurf?
[1:07:18]
I'd pick the one
[1:07:19]
that would have
[1:07:20]
food in his apartment
[1:07:22]
after we're done
[1:07:23]
having sex.
[1:07:24]
Yeah.
[1:07:26]
You know,
[1:07:27]
to replenish
[1:07:27]
my energy.
[1:07:29]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[1:07:30]
You're gonna lose
[1:07:31]
a lot of electrolytes.
Stuart Wellington
[1:07:32]
The problem
[1:07:32]
with Smurf
[1:07:33]
Does a baker
[1:07:34]
bake electrolytes
[1:07:35]
in his bread?
[1:07:37]
This is sports bread.
[1:07:41]
It's orange.
[1:07:42]
Oh, quick.
[1:07:43]
Somebody get those
[1:07:43]
Shark Tank dudes
[1:07:44]
on the line.
[1:07:45]
Sports bread's
[1:07:46]
a great idea.
Elliott Kalan
[1:07:47]
This purple sports bread.
[1:07:49]
Now, here's the thing.
[1:07:50]
It's hard to have sex
[1:07:51]
with a Smurf
[1:07:52]
because their dirty talk
[1:07:53]
is so incomprehensible.
[1:07:54]
They're like,
[1:07:54]
Oh, yeah.
[1:07:55]
Smurf my Smurf.
[1:07:56]
Smurfier.
[1:07:57]
Smurfier.
[1:07:59]
Smurf it.
[1:08:01]
Smurf.
Stuart Wellington
[1:08:02]
Difficult.
[1:08:03]
So, yeah,
[1:08:03]
that would be
[1:08:04]
an obstacle
[1:08:05]
for you to overcome.
Elliott Kalan
[1:08:06]
Yeah, of course,
[1:08:07]
because communication
[1:08:08]
is the bedrock of sex.
Dan McCoy
[1:08:10]
And the brain
[1:08:11]
is the biggest
[1:08:12]
erogenous.
Elliott Kalan
[1:08:14]
Not if you have
[1:08:15]
a 40-pound penis.
[1:08:16]
Yeah.
Description
A returning Flop House director guides a cast of returning Flop House stars in an eruption of mediocrity named Pompeii. Meanwhile Stu asks a provocative question about Cenobites, Elliott reveals an early draft of a Robert Louis Stevenson classic, and Dan debuts his new hit character.
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