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Episode #167 - From Justin to Kelly
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On this episode, we watched From Justin to Kelly.
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Are you sure we didn't accidentally steal a letter from someone's mail?
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From Kelly, Massachusetts to Justin, Massachusetts.
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I don't understand.
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Hey everyone, and welcome to the Flophouse.
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I'm Dan McCoy.
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Hey guys, I'm Stuart Wellington.
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Hey dudes, I'm Elliot Kalin and I have a little bit of a cold, so I apologize if I sound even nasally-er than usual.
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So normally, we watch a bad movie and we talk about it.
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Getting right to business, huh?
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Here at the Flophouse podcast.
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Here at Flophouse Industries Central.
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And normally said bad movie, it's a recent film.
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Last couple years.
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Yeah, the movie we watch and then talk about.
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Yeah, the bad movie.
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It's a bad, I mean...
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A bad movie?
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It's a bad movie.
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Well, there's the movie Bats.
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That's pretty bad.
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Sure, that's the one where the name's upside down, right?
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Yeah, on the poster, because it's a bat.
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Did that work?
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Nope.
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People didn't like it.
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They thought, best case scenario, they thought it was a movie about Australian bats.
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Worst case scenario, they thought they were walking on their heads.
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Walking on their heads?
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Yeah, yeah.
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Like that Lionel Richie song.
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Yeah, yeah.
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When you're walking on your heads, oh, you might be dead.
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No, normally we watch a newer...
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Use your feet instead, if you're walking on your head.
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A newer bad film.
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Your face is turning red, from the blood rushing to your head.
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But in this case...
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My name's Lionel Richie.
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He used to say that during his songs.
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But in this case...
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What's different about this bad movie we watched?
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Well, this is a contest episode.
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The winner of the New Song of the Autumn contest, Jason Michael McIsaac.
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You did a great job.
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I expected you to fuck it up.
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I mean, a professional would have written it down.
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But Dan McCoy relies on the power of his often incompetent memory.
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My memory's fine.
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My tongue is the problem.
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But anyway...
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Problem tongue.
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Sorry.
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John Ritter and Dan McCoy.
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He wrote Rocket Crocodile and the World of Tomorrow.
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You've been hearing it blasting out of...
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Well, he produced it.
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Every car you see passing by all autumn long.
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It's right up there with that All About the Bass song.
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It's what you call an earworm.
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Oh, like in Star Trek 2?
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In Star Trek 2.
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Nice.
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Dan?
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But because he won, he is entitled to two things.
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A T-shirt, which I have not yet gotten to him because it's all sold out online.
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So make him one.
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Get a Hanes white tee and write The Flophouse on it.
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Okay.
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Sure.
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Right in.
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Right in, Jason.
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Tell us whether that would be acceptable to you.
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Don't.
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Don't.
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No.
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Don't take the first offer.
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Go with something better.
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You get one of those oversized T-shirts of a Looney Tunes character all blinged out,
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and then sign that The Flophouse.
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They still make those?
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Are you his...
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I don't know.
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I assume I still see him on the subway.
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Are you his agent in this transaction?
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Yeah, I get 10% of the shirt.
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I get one half of a sleeve.
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Take the sleeves.
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He's not going to need a part.
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Leave the cannoli.
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Take the sleeves.
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The other thing was he got to decide what movie we watched.
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Oh, boy.
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Now, in the past, what contest winner movies have there been?
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Teen Witch?
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Teen Witch, The Scarlet Letter.
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Baps.
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Baps.
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These are all the happiest millionaire.
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And so this choice, the star is the limit.
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He could have said, hey, I'll be easy on the flop guys.
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I'll have them watch Star Wars.
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He could have said, hey, I'll be hard on the flop guys and have them watch Sallow or The 120 Days of Sodom
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or Cannibal Holocaust or something.
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Or Nothing But Trouble or something.
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Oh, god, I hope never, ever.
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Instead, he went kind of in the middle.
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Well, I will say...
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It's in the middle.
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It's bad.
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This is not a perfectly acceptable.
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I forgot that Star Wars was the upper bound that I had said.
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I will say this for...
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This isn't like the king's speech or something.
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Yeah, no, yeah, like a middle of the road, you know, fine movie.
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Saw it, enjoyed it, forgot it.
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Exactly.
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I will say this for the choice of from Justin to Kelly.
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It is a trim hour and 22 minutes.
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Perfect.
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Unlike The Happiest Millionaire, which was three hours long.
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Which is a fat three hours.
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However, this movie seemed to be as long, if not longer, than The Happiest Millionaire.
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I gotta say, I remember a lot more The Happiest Millionaire, a movie we saw years ago.
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Yeah, I remember it almost fondly.
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There's that alligator character, right?
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There's a ton of alligators.
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Let's not forget the song about Detroit.
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The song about Detroit that we got on the show once.
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Yeah, that's true.
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And this, Justin to Kelly, we literally watched it 15 minutes ago.
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And I only have a memory of like vaguely neon bathing suits dancing to poorly mixed songs on a beach somewhere.
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Those songs are going to be in your memory forever.
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I can't remember a single one.
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One of them was a rewritten version of That's The Way I Like It.
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See, I'm impressed you remembered that because I had forgotten that song.
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It was the song that ends the movie.
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I know, I had forgotten it.
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It's the climactic dance.
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I wouldn't say it's climactic dance.
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I wouldn't say that this movie has a climax.
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This movie has a second act problem in that it has no act structure.
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There is the barest hint of a first act.
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And then I guess there's a third act in that it ends at some point.
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And the second act is more of a loose mishmash of vignettes.
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There's a couple of like – it's one of these – it's a spring break movie.
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It's a throwback to the old beach movies where there's like a bunch of characters who have like –
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Your beach blanket bingos or your How to Stuff a Wild Bikini.
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Exactly, yeah.
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That's the name of a movie?
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How to Stuff a Wild Bikini, yeah.
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Most certainly it is.
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Isn't Buster Keaton in that one?
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I don't know.
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Buster Keaton – maybe not that.
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Buster Keaton is in a bunch of these beach movies.
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He's in a funny thing that happened on the way to the forum.
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Not a beach movie.
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I mean with the flavor of sandals around.
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Yeah, you're right, Dan.
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Sandals equals beach.
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I guess the Bible is the ultimate beach story.
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Well, look.
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All I know is that there's a resort called Sandals, so checkmate.
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I believe it was Jesus Christ who said,
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Blessed are the surfers, they shall inherit some tubular waves.
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Dudes?
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Yeah, blessed are the dudes, for they shall be laid back in spirit.
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And he managed to feed a thousand people with only a handful of poi
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and one of those little shell necklaces that always make everyone look like douchebags when they wear them.
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Very judgy Jesus.
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Wow.
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He is the ultimate judge, Dan.
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That's true.
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Anyway, but it's a throwback to those movies where there's a group of characters who each have their thing they want to get.
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Everyone has a clearly desired want in this movie.
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I mean it's mostly just a date.
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It's mostly a girl or a guy.
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It's also one of these movies that is clearly written for young people because there's a lot of talk about,
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I'm going to get with all these girls.
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I want your love all night long.
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But then all they really want is a kiss on the cheek and to dance with each other.
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Yeah, this is, I mean, as opposed to…
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A hardcore fucking.
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I'm familiar with a…
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Penetration.
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On screen.
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Every position.
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Every orifice.
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It's called XXX Parody from Justin Ticheli.
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Sure.
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Santa's porn titles now are very lame.
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Change Kelly to Jelly and you're close.
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That's what you want in a porn title.
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A condiment? I don't understand.
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But I will say this.
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Have you seen Busty Ketchup?
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Busty Ketchup.
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It's got condiment in the title.
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I am familiar with a much different type of spring break movie and this movie…
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Like the 80s spring break movies.
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Yeah.
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I mean they're not that different.
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This kind of stuff would be a lot of girls taking their tops off.
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People getting drunk.
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People getting high.
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This is the most whitewashed, clean spring break movie.
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There is a scene where people have…
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Not a single character dies of a heroin overdose.
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There's a scene that involves a whipped cream bikini contest.
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But these might as well be one piece whipped cream bikinis.
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They might as well be old timey.
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Yeah, they could have gone to do an old timey two piece gown bathing suit from the Coney Island days.
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Yeah.
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These are the most modest whipped cream bikinis you will ever see.
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You could wear one of these to church.
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I guess if you don't worry about getting the pew dirty.
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From Elliot's description of Jesus, I think it would fit.
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Yeah, he was all about it.
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Varsity Blues, this is not when it comes to whipped cream bikinis.
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But yeah, should we go through the thinnest of plots?
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This gossamer web of dreams that is the plot from Destiny Kelly.
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Oh yeah, it's a real Midsummer Night's Dream.
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Oh yeah.
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Well, hey look.
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If these dance numbers have offended, think just this.
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As all is mended.
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For while you watched here, it was a contractual obligation for everyone involved.
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That doesn't mean anything as far as I'm concerned.
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Justin is quite a puckish figure.
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Yes.
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Or maybe Greg Siff's character.
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And Kelly is what, like a Titania or one of the Tinkers?
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I don't understand.
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You know, Helena, Hermia.
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Hermione or Helena Bonham Carter.
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You got it.
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So here's the story.
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Kelly Clarkson is a waitress named Kelly who works in a bar.
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in texas
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they share her friends can be a slowdown i think that she wants to sing
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this is a plot that goes nowhere
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she has two friends one of whom is a party girl and the others black those
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their personalities yeah and they convince her to go to spring break with
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them
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they go to spring break this movie takes
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seven minutes to get the spring break it's efficient
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we have to have
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it does not waste time in the spring break and it's spring break
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in fort lauderdale
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uh... there's three guys justin and his friends ryan was one of the brandon
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brandon is the uh... the party dude the certified party dude brandon is a party
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dude who's always making money doing party planning and events and things
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like that getting into trouble with the law
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here played by a baby alert cop
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you don't see lawless type
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uh... police officer one of your real karen cisco's
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and uh...
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here they have another friend his other friend is the only other type of guy
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a feckless nerd a nerd who is not that smart but doesn't have glasses and zinc
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on his nose
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and so here are the things that are like comic types kelly is looking to stay out of
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trouble
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her blonde friend is looking to i guess
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get fucked every which way but loose she's constantly on the hunt for boys
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and her other friend is just there again
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her personality that she's black
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and uh... with the three guys
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uh... brandon
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is trying to make money and get with the babes he's some kind of sociopath
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there's a part where he talks about how he can have no emotional connection with
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a woman which is the way in which he's bragging about because it means he leaves the babes quick
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but like he uses them and loses them it helps him in like ia jutsu duels so that he can remain
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perfectly still and his opponent won't know he's about to strike yeah he's the kendo master who taught him
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thought of him as a perfect tree
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how can i strike you when you and the wood are one
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uh... and
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and there's a and the nerd who is looking to meet up with his internet
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girlfriend
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who she he's gonna be in person for the first time
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and justin who's there to be there he's just a dude like he is a blank
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like there's a perfect blank character he's not even quite like the good guy at least at first
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he's not a bad guy but he's just as interested in like having this whipped cream bikini contest
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as like the party dude as a business opportunity clearly
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yeah well and also cuz
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they didn't really explain the uh... the mechanics of the whipped cream bikini contest they just
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they could have done the same thing wearing regular bikinis
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dan okay wait
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that's cold okay it's a little
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slippery okay and then uh... what do i do now
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shake it, shake what the lord gave you
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like a polaroid picture or like you shouldn't with a baby
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uh... either one man okay i'm shaking what's supposed to happen
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well the whipped cream is supposed to fly off yeah
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uh... it's actually quite secure are you sure this wasn't some sort of fast drying epoxy
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uh oh gonna have to chip this away after the podcast anyway
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the guys and the girls keep bumping into each other
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kelly and justin
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meet up on the beach and it is instant chemistry as we know
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because they immediately start singing a song it happens during a song
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they're all singing a song about being on the beach looking for dates
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justin and kelly see each other through a crowd they walk towards each other because
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i think as dan pointed out
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as we were watching the theme of this movie seems to be people walking through crowds
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or singing while walking towards the camera
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and also uh...
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all of this it's important to say that all the songs in this movie
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uh... sounds like either they could have been written for this movie or they
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could have been a pre-existing song
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that this movie has just used i think there was a lot of nothing distinctive about
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a lot of what songwriters would call trunk songs in here
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songs that they had lying around and had not found use for
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and they threw them into this movie and all the songs are mixed weird so it
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sounds like a song you'd hear on the radio and not like these two characters
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are actually singing
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yet it's hard to make out the lyrics
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but anyway there's it's love at first sight but uh oh through a series of
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complications
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they can't get it together and it's in that first big dance number that we
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realize that this movie is going to be filled with nothing but very interesting
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supporting extras let's take a moment to talk about okay this is not a good movie
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the main characters are bad the extras in this movie are
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a constant entertainment
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they are so overly into it
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like you'll see characters just walking by in the background swinging their arms
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like no one has ever walked in the history of which is great it's like the
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director's like
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well my leads don't know the dance moves that well so i'm gonna put a snake woman
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in the background with a bandana and have her flex like a crazy person
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there's a guy who's tap dancing on a table
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you know what
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let's just have one of the spectators be dancing as if she's having an epileptic
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seizure. I've got one word for this movie
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upstaging. Usually it's bad, but here...
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it's almost as if like there were two craft services tables
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one for the stars and one for the extras and the one for the extras was just dosed with acid
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just all of it acid and coke and just like speed
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and speaking of craft services the one scene that takes place in the kitchen
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features a chef taking slices of pizza and putting them on just a plate
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individual plates right? right next to a giant trough of
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like apples and bananas in a kitchen
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i don't understand what this restaurant's focus is. That's why it's failing
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somebody get Gordon Ramsey in here
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Stewart as a food services professional
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yeah I identified that people don't just serve a plate with a slice of pizza from a kitchen
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at a sit-down restaurant
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your slice of pepperoni sir
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welcome to Slicy's, the restaurant that only serves things in slices
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can I have a coke? sorry we only have slice soda
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or you could have a slice of coke but try not to cut yourself on the sharp can edge
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wait so they slice up the soda like shredder would do to prove that he has knives on his hands?
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yeah they slice it into little sections
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only the bottom section retains any coke
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the middle sections are just like cylinders
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why don't they just freeze it? that would make more sense
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if you're telling me a knife can cut through a soda can
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I think you're crazy
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what kind of wonderful knife could do that?
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well friend, take a look at this
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ah ah he's wielding a knife at me
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bang bang bang bang bang bang bang
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ow god why?
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why?
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Dan you came at me with a knife
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all I had to protect myself with was this soda can
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and I know you can slice through that
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Stuart you saw it
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you saw the whole thing
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I was too busy buying these knives
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bang bang bang
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now I'm dying
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help me mom I'm cold
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here's a blanket dear
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mom I was dying
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a little taste of flop house theater
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yep a very little taste
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there was very little there
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a slice of flop house theater
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so the extras are fantastic
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but the foreground not so much
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here's what happens in the movie
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so Kelly's friend in quotes
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because she's a bitch to her the whole movie
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decides that she is going to
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is her name like Brittany or Brianna
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it's probably like Skyler or Dakota
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or Laura
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or something like that
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first name?
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it must have been a maiden name
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kids these days you know
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their kooky trend names
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anyway so
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she decides she's going to mess with Justin
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for no real reason
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I guess because Justin's not interested in her
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she's constantly angry that none of the guys are interested in her
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and she just wants to get into all the parties
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which is weird because she's set up as
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kind of the queen bee character
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and she's like objectively and attractively
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it just seems odd that she's so obsessed
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you were masturbating in your mind
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it's weird casting
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here's what I'd say Dan
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here's what I'd say
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I think you're programmed to look at
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the woman who looks like that in this type of movie
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the skinny blonde is supposed to be
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the one who's got it going on
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she's going to be desirable to everybody
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she also has a couple of problems in that area
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and she has a couple of musical numbers
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where people are carrying her around
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but I think those all might take place in her mind
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yeah it's possible
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it's like an American psycho type thing
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is it really happening?
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here's what I'd say about her
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one, she comes on too strong
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and even the most beautiful woman
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which she is not, she's fine
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just to pull a name out of my head, Carl Gugino
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she's no Carl Gugino
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but her personality just comes on too strong
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and let's say
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there's no beauty in her heart
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exactly, inner beauty is what really counts
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two, she's a big fish in a small pond
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now she's a small fish in a big pond
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she's a heartbreaker
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she's still the same size fish though
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but the ponds got bigger
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oh that makes more sense
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and as Obi-Wan said
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what's his face, the other guy
[18:43]
in Phantom Menace
[18:45]
there's always a bigger fish
[18:47]
I think he was talking about Spring Break particularly
[18:49]
so she is like
[18:51]
she's flailing
[18:53]
she's like I'm used to people just flocking to me
[18:55]
but now there's all these other girls
[18:57]
I don't know what to do
[18:59]
and so she kind of pointlessly
[19:01]
just keeps sending Justin text messages
[19:03]
as if she's Kelly
[19:05]
saying meet me here, I don't want to
[19:07]
or just ignoring him
[19:09]
maybe I zoned out
[19:11]
did we talk about how
[19:13]
yes, it happens
[19:15]
did we talk about
[19:17]
just how perfunctory
[19:19]
Justin and Kelly's meeting was
[19:21]
and how little chemistry they have together
[19:23]
well let's talk about it
[19:25]
as I said to Dan
[19:27]
their chemistry leaps off the screen
[19:29]
because I could see no evidence for it
[19:31]
on the screen
[19:33]
I assumed it jumped away and scurried under a piece of furniture
[19:35]
I mean we saw this
[19:37]
we talked about them singing together
[19:39]
but the real meeting was
[19:41]
Justin is running away from a flock of women
[19:43]
who want his promotional
[19:45]
wristbands to the
[19:47]
Margarita Madness that he's putting on
[19:49]
it's a great name
[19:51]
Margaritas that drive you to madness
[19:53]
I think Lovecraft wrote about that
[19:55]
yeah
[19:57]
the old ones mixed to drink
[19:59]
it was said to
[20:00]
drive one man mad.
[20:02]
It was lime, tequila, triple sec, and madness.
[20:06]
Two parts saturnian wine.
[20:10]
No, but like.
[20:11]
Chug shabitters.
[20:12]
So he runs into the ladies room to hide from these,
[20:16]
this pack of females and runs into Kelly
[20:19]
and they trade maybe five sentences
[20:22]
and there doesn't seem to be like any particular
[20:25]
like sizzling chemistry.
[20:26]
It might as well have been,
[20:27]
the same amount of chemistry you'd get
[20:29]
if Kelly was waiting for the bus
[20:30]
and a homeless man came up to her,
[20:32]
asked her for money.
[20:33]
She said, I'm sorry, I don't have any.
[20:34]
And he said, well, God bless you anyway, and walked away.
[20:36]
That's about the chemistry they have.
[20:38]
See a lifetime passes in those moments, guys.
[20:40]
When their eyes meet.
[20:43]
I think they probably edited that sequence out
[20:46]
where they stared into each other's eyes
[20:47]
and they saw a future where they were having kids
[20:51]
and those kids were growing old
[20:53]
and they were growing old
[20:54]
and then they turned into worm food
[20:55]
and then those worms grew old.
[20:56]
They saw their reflection
[20:58]
and a landslide of coming down.
[20:59]
Shut up.
[21:00]
They were getting older too.
[21:01]
I told you to be quiet with that shit.
[21:03]
And Wolfly went back.
[21:05]
So here's what I'm gonna say that scene worked.
[21:08]
If they looked into each other's eyes
[21:09]
and suddenly flashed back to
[21:11]
Justin and Kelly throughout time,
[21:13]
throughout history.
[21:14]
Cave Justin and Cave Kelly being together.
[21:17]
Medieval times, Justin and Kelly, Roman times.
[21:20]
It's like a Mists of Avalon type thing.
[21:22]
They've always been lovers throughout history.
[21:24]
And now they're once again lovers.
[21:25]
And he has snakes tattooed on his wrists.
[21:28]
You know, Mists of Avalon like again.
[21:29]
Sure.
[21:30]
That would have been,
[21:31]
the rest of the movie would have made more sense
[21:33]
because it was like,
[21:33]
oh, okay, so their souls are fated
[21:34]
to be together for eternity.
[21:36]
Like Hawk Man and Hawk Girl.
[21:37]
The two most boring people in the world
[21:40]
were fated to be together.
[21:41]
God's like, I'll save anyone of interest
[21:43]
from these people by having them be in love.
[21:45]
That's the thing.
[21:46]
Sometimes when you know somebody so perfectly,
[21:48]
it gets a little boring
[21:49]
because you have nothing to talk about.
[21:50]
You gotta spice it up
[21:51]
with a whipped cream bikini contest.
[21:53]
So say it, the chicken whipped cream.
[21:56]
And that's, I think those are the plots.
[21:59]
By the end of the movie,
[22:00]
the minor obstacles that,
[22:02]
oh, and also the other friend
[22:04]
starts going out with a waiter.
[22:06]
She gets him fired from his job
[22:07]
by talking back to his boss.
[22:08]
And then he gets a new job.
[22:09]
And that aforementioned great kitchen scene.
[22:11]
Yeah.
[22:12]
And the kitchen scene where again,
[22:15]
the most interesting thing about it
[22:17]
was the nonsensical food service
[22:19]
going on in the background.
[22:19]
Like the extra just saw this pizza,
[22:21]
and he's like,
[22:22]
I guess I should just start putting it on plates.
[22:24]
Gotta do something with these hands.
[22:27]
I can't just stand here staring at a pizza.
[22:30]
I can't just stand here staring at my hands
[22:33]
wondering what they could be doing.
[22:34]
Because that would look crazy.
[22:35]
Strangling somebody?
[22:38]
He just starts walking up to the stars
[22:40]
with his hands out as if to strangle him.
[22:43]
Excuse me, what are you doing extra number two?
[22:45]
Oh, it's just a bit of business I came up with.
[22:47]
My backstory is I hate these characters
[22:48]
and I want to strangle them.
[22:51]
Maybe we should get a different,
[22:54]
that doesn't really fit with the rest of the story.
[22:57]
So by the end of the movie, everything's okay.
[22:59]
Yeah, well, the thing is,
[23:01]
the original beach movies that these sort of like,
[23:05]
as we were saying, are an updating of,
[23:07]
like they had featherweight plots
[23:09]
and the obstacles.
[23:10]
And featherweight bathing suits.
[23:12]
And the obstacles in front of the young lovers
[23:15]
were ridiculous and stupid.
[23:17]
But even by that standard,
[23:20]
there is almost no reason why there's obstacles.
[23:23]
Like the woman is like.
[23:24]
There's like two obstacles in the whole movie.
[23:26]
And one of them is a hovercraft basketball tournament.
[23:31]
That is, don't, now your mind just heard
[23:33]
hovercraft basketball tournament
[23:34]
and you thought, awesome, wrong.
[23:36]
It is the most boring thing I've maybe ever seen.
[23:39]
Two hovercrafts, you know, like circling each other
[23:43]
like mid-middle speed while people try and throw balls
[23:46]
into the opposite hovercraft.
[23:48]
With a very complicated rule system.
[23:50]
It's very elaborate.
[23:51]
There's bonus points for things.
[23:53]
It doesn't make sense.
[23:55]
Yeah, I've seen like episodes of Small Wonder.
[23:57]
Oh, I've seen things you can only imagine.
[24:01]
Of course, she's a fucking robot, dude.
[24:03]
Conflict is bound to arise between organics and synthetics.
[24:06]
And not to mention her programming.
[24:08]
She thinks of everything so literally.
[24:09]
It's like she's an Amelia Bedelia robot almost.
[24:12]
Do you think she's programmed the three laws of robotics?
[24:14]
Like if Small Wonder.
[24:15]
I hope so.
[24:16]
If there was a fire and Small Wonder wanted to get away
[24:22]
and her owner was like, no, Small Wonder,
[24:24]
I order you to stay in that fire.
[24:25]
She's like, uh, law two overrides law three.
[24:30]
My own survival is superseded
[24:33]
by my need to obey human commands.
[24:35]
I'm dying.
[24:36]
Do you think that would happen?
[24:38]
I think that's probably the last series finale
[24:42]
of Small Wonder.
[24:43]
I have to assume so.
[24:45]
Uh, so here's the thing.
[24:47]
The Rolling Stones may have said
[24:48]
you can't always get what you want,
[24:50]
but everyone in Justin Ticheli gets what they want.
[24:52]
Who's right?
[24:55]
Thoughts, discussion?
[24:57]
So next time that song pops up on Pandora, thumbs down.
[25:00]
Yeah, you pose a very stupid philosophical question, Elliot.
[25:04]
Now, there's a lot of stuff in here too
[25:05]
that's like beach movie tropes that they do very lazily.
[25:09]
Someone tans for too long and gets burned.
[25:11]
Somebody's chased by another girl's boyfriend
[25:14]
who's a big guy.
[25:15]
There's some mistaken identity.
[25:18]
There's bikinis, but like even those
[25:20]
are kind of given short shrift.
[25:21]
There's a poor attempt at beach volleyball.
[25:24]
Yeah, yeah, very poor.
[25:25]
There's a sandcastle in one scene.
[25:28]
Can I say one of the things that irritated me in this movie?
[25:32]
Nope, not what we're here for.
[25:33]
Okay, well.
[25:34]
You're supposed to tell us two truths
[25:35]
and a lie about yourself.
[25:37]
Okay, um, let's see.
[25:40]
I lived two blocks away from a dairy farm.
[25:47]
Now?
[25:48]
In Brooklyn?
[25:49]
Hey, let him finish.
[25:50]
This is gonna eat up some minutes.
[25:52]
So Dan, what were you gonna say?
[25:53]
I can't even think of truths about myself.
[25:54]
It's a weird thing.
[25:56]
Because you've been living a lie for so long.
[25:58]
Who is Dan McCoy?
[25:59]
You look in the mirror
[26:00]
and you don't even recognize yourself
[26:01]
because you have a beard now.
[26:02]
Anyway, so what was the thing that irritated you?
[26:05]
No, early on when the nerd is checking into the hotel,
[26:11]
one of the least nerdy nerds in the history of film.
[26:14]
He is a handsome dude with abs,
[26:17]
who has glasses.
[26:18]
He's ripped, dude.
[26:19]
He's complaining about how he can't get online
[26:22]
and he holds up his old rotary phone
[26:25]
and he's like, how am I supposed to get online?
[26:27]
There's not even any buttons on this thing.
[26:30]
And the other two characters
[26:31]
kind of roll their eyes at each other.
[26:33]
But that's not how it works.
[26:34]
He would've just taken the phone jack out of the wall
[26:37]
and plugged his ethernet cable into that.
[26:40]
The actual phone has no...
[26:43]
No, but if it's a dial-up thing, you just plug it in.
[26:46]
Here's the thing.
[26:47]
He didn't even seem to bring a computer
[26:49]
or his own cell phone.
[26:51]
Yeah, no point does he have a computer on him.
[26:54]
Now, remember...
[26:55]
If you're gonna go through the trouble
[26:57]
of doing that stupid gag,
[26:59]
at least fact check your gag.
[27:00]
Now, let's remember when this movie came out.
[27:02]
It was 2003.
[27:03]
So, cell phone technology wasn't what it is now.
[27:06]
Laptops weren't what they are now.
[27:08]
And also, this is post-9-11.
[27:10]
Oh, right.
[27:12]
Maybe he is just trying to stay safe,
[27:14]
not attract the attention of terrorists.
[27:16]
That's my only guess.
[27:17]
Because otherwise,
[27:18]
why wouldn't he bring his computer with him?
[27:21]
Wait, so what do you think he was doing with the phone
[27:22]
if he wasn't actually picking his computer up to it?
[27:25]
I gotta assume he was tracking down leads.
[27:28]
I don't know.
[27:30]
Doing some old shoe leather police work.
[27:34]
Maybe he's gonna pick it up and hit somebody with it.
[27:37]
I don't know.
[27:39]
Yep.
[27:40]
Nothing in the movie really makes that much sense.
[27:42]
The characters are...
[27:43]
There's a scene with the aforementioned pizza
[27:45]
in the background scene
[27:46]
where the busboy's girlfriend,
[27:48]
one of Kelly's friends,
[27:49]
is just hanging out with him in the kitchen
[27:51]
while he's working.
[27:52]
And it's like,
[27:53]
do people routinely bring their girlfriends
[27:55]
to hang out with them in their...
[27:56]
I hope the fucking food inspectors don't show up.
[28:00]
What's this girl in a bathing suit doing here?
[28:02]
I really like there's a scene where...
[28:02]
Was this that John Updike story
[28:04]
where the guy quits his job
[28:06]
because the girl in the bathing suit
[28:07]
gets kicked out of the supermarket?
[28:09]
I couldn't remember the name of the story.
[28:13]
There's a great scene where the Queen Bee character
[28:16]
goes to Margarita Madness or whatever,
[28:18]
hosted by Brandon?
[28:20]
Yeah, Brandon.
[28:21]
Is his name Brandon?
[28:22]
And basically, she shows up,
[28:24]
she gets free entrance to this Margarita Madness,
[28:27]
I guess they call it,
[28:28]
and then immediately dumps a bunch of drinks on her head.
[28:31]
End of scene.
[28:32]
That is the last we hear about this scene.
[28:33]
She was only there to be humiliated.
[28:35]
Much like a Thomas Hardy character,
[28:37]
she exists only to be buffeted by the winds of fate.
[28:40]
You're buffeted by the winds of fate, Batman.
[28:42]
And not Thomas Hardy, the actor.
[28:48]
Thomas Hardy, the writer.
[28:52]
Wait, what?
[28:53]
Tessa D'Urberville?
[28:55]
So, did you read Return of the Native, Batman?
[29:01]
This is a movie?
[29:02]
Would you think the mayor of Castlebridge
[29:04]
brings his dismay upon himself, Batman?
[29:08]
Why so formal, Mr. Wayne?
[29:12]
I'm really more of a poet at heart.
[29:14]
It's still happening.
[29:15]
Anyway, you were saying?
[29:16]
No, I was-
[29:17]
Bronson, and so forth.
[29:18]
I was not really saying.
[29:20]
I was struggling for something to say about this movie.
[29:22]
It's hard.
[29:23]
It's so thin.
[29:23]
This is a lightweight movie.
[29:26]
It's like, this is-
[29:26]
This movie has seven minutes of plot.
[29:29]
And they stretched it out to an hour and 22 minutes.
[29:32]
There's some great outfits.
[29:33]
Oh, yeah.
[29:34]
Kelly wears some interesting shirts.
[29:36]
At one point, she looks like she should be
[29:40]
stepping up to the streets.
[29:42]
Yeah.
[29:43]
Or 3D.
[29:44]
She looks like she should be like,
[29:46]
she's kind of like an anime character
[29:48]
who's at a Tokyo Drift race,
[29:52]
but also she's got kind of like a weird
[29:53]
Spangly Day of the Dead shirt on.
[29:55]
So, that's interesting, I guess.
[29:57]
Sure.
[29:59]
Another one looks like she-
[30:00]
to be draped around johnnie depp's neck
[30:04]
so good work kelly clarkson on that uh... i mean as you can see from what's
[30:09]
the movie that uh...
[30:10]
everyone was doing this because they had to it feels like
[30:13]
everyone involved is doing this because they've signed a contract at some point
[30:16]
to do a movie
[30:18]
and nobody really want to do it in the most interesting thing about the movie
[30:21]
to me is that
[30:22]
really competing
[30:23]
the via this feels like
[30:24]
wikipedia
[30:25]
nobody wikipedia
[30:26]
i was about to cough and then yeah wikipedia my friend pete mcneil believe
[30:31]
whatever you tell him so there's a
[30:34]
you'd assume this movie it's an american idol tie-in basically
[30:37]
that this movie was made to sell a soundtrack album
[30:40]
they recorded one and it was not released because the movie did so poorly
[30:44]
they figured no one would want to buy the soundtrack
[30:46]
so it's
[30:47]
it's interesting to me that like the reason you'd think this would be
[30:50]
existing didn't come about
[30:52]
yeah i you know and i
[30:55]
i find justin gore any utterly charmless
[30:59]
uh... kelly clarkson
[31:01]
uh... i like a little bit
[31:03]
and maybe it's just the font i like you know i like some of our songs that
[31:06]
you've been going to get some
[31:07]
you know
[31:08]
there's a lot about uh... how she doesn't look up i'm against the anti
[31:12]
looking up
[31:13]
message of the song but i'm pro the the two of them and that's on task
[31:16]
yeah i think that yet
[31:18]
uh... well-intentioned
[31:20]
uh...
[31:22]
more lee would not be a
[31:25]
the callback to stuff that happened before we started taking a look
[31:28]
uh... but so
[31:29]
so okay so you like kelly clarkson would you like to do like a movie uh... there
[31:33]
was a
[31:34]
my daughter was a busty extra in the back of one of the united there's a bar
[31:37]
let me tell you this
[31:38]
this is a problem with the beach movie is that if you're a guy watching it
[31:41]
you're never going to be distracted by the women in the background but they
[31:44]
really didn't give you much in the foregrounds to
[31:47]
fight that
[31:48]
yeah yeah when we look at this nerd with a weird tangled fishermen have yet come
[31:52]
on at this point is that some of the movie becomes like
[31:55]
some kind of pervy where's waldo we're searching for the crowd for boobs
[31:59]
desperately for something to at least hold your penis is interested
[32:04]
could be a urinal
[32:04]
there's nothing to do with that
[32:08]
that uh... that
[32:10]
that goes to me that that's part of the president is that a medical diagnosis
[32:14]
disinterested because i think that i've suffered from a report
[32:21]
that okay that's the truth that the other truth you were searching for
[32:24]
earlier
[32:25]
uh...
[32:26]
yeah we should uh... so from justin to kelly should have been returned to send
[32:29]
her
[32:30]
uh...
[32:31]
uh... i'm jean shalit
[32:32]
uh... i'm jean shalit
[32:36]
that's when you make a better food
[32:38]
and i have my family only one food i had my film critic being dressed for
[32:43]
well it's like a pair of jeans with shalit in the pocket
[32:46]
exactly
[32:47]
it's a pocket full of shalit
[32:49]
uh...
[32:50]
that's a good musical song a pocket full of shalit
[32:52]
yeah by the spin doctors
[32:56]
uh...
[32:57]
three shalits and a fountain
[32:58]
there's also the pauline kale that's a very popular side dish
[33:04]
uh... so
[33:06]
uh...
[33:07]
yeah and put a dollop of stanley kauf mayonnaise on that
[33:10]
jean sisk eel
[33:13]
uh... sure i guess that is a sushi bar in my critic themed restaurant
[33:18]
and of course the roger sherbert anyway moving on dan
[33:21]
uh... so uh...
[33:23]
we should do our final judgments on this movie whether it was a good bad movie a
[33:27]
bad bad movie a-o hot sauce or a movie perfect we kinda liked
[33:32]
uh... stuart what do you say
[33:35]
uh... wait what are the categories again
[33:39]
totally beachifying
[33:41]
scarily snored
[33:43]
uh...
[33:45]
now this is this is a bad bad movie uh... i was hoping that it would that
[33:49]
there would be more wackiness
[33:50]
there's a few wacky chases when uh... this certified party expert i'd like to
[33:56]
see his credentials
[33:59]
runs afoul of
[34:00]
uh... beautiful local law enforcement officer cutler
[34:06]
uh... that's a lot of the callahan character if this was a very good
[34:10]
dirty is about a lot like a lot of police academy like a flirty harry
[34:14]
callahan
[34:16]
is left of the the blonde woman debate from as a member of some of the member
[34:21]
is the guy with the special effects noises and that's terrible and uh... i
[34:25]
tell her was that a character and said
[34:27]
there'd be a and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and
[34:31]
later in the series
[34:32]
yeah yeah i mean later is
[34:34]
in my multiples of the came in pretty early with the second movie
[34:38]
yeah but he didn't become a little until numbers that are that's true
[34:41]
and let's not forget
[34:43]
the star of it all
[34:45]
america's police
[34:47]
the concept of law enforcement
[34:50]
anyway
[34:51]
down so it's a reason it's a bad bad idea yeah yeah i agree
[34:56]
and i hope for this to be a good bad movie because of its reputation as one
[35:01]
of the worst movies ever
[35:03]
it was up to that but in the wrong way yeah it was so thin that it did not
[35:09]
eat my interest and
[35:11]
where movie that was
[35:12]
an hour and twenty two minutes
[35:14]
it seemed like a lifetime but it was infinitely like a doctor in a justin
[35:19]
guarini's i've seen your babies together if a doctor tells you have an hour and
[35:23]
twenty two minutes to live
[35:25]
fire up from justin to kill it doesn't you won't want to be begging for the
[35:29]
sweet release and to you'll feel like you're a mortal time will stretch on
[35:34]
forever it's like you're in a white void with no sensory data elements
[35:39]
whatsoever so you have no idea if a second is faster million years and so
[35:42]
i'm gonna say that that would also kind of barely reached this minimum standards
[35:46]
for being a movie
[35:49]
uh... so
[35:51]
move on justin to kelly
[35:54]
no such address
[35:56]
thanks again for that
[35:58]
uh... so
[35:59]
before you go on to letters no cds to uh... there are a couple things couple
[36:04]
shows
[36:05]
remote
[36:06]
uh... when this is the day that this is dropping
[36:10]
is the day that i'm appearing at the deal ideology and winsburg and it's
[36:14]
saturday december thirteen thirteenth
[36:18]
for the slate holiday party so that i don't know saturday the thirteenth was
[36:22]
the movie about the very late slasher killer
[36:25]
who could never make it on time to things yeah
[36:28]
uh... there's a certain in the fourteenth right here there is that is a
[36:33]
now is it is like a transylvania six five thousand and i don't know that one
[36:36]
well forget it i like saturday the thirteenth more
[36:38]
anyway
[36:39]
point is that i don't know that we need to change its title
[36:42]
so that's still happening which one is that the college union bc
[36:45]
you know i don't know what you're going to get your only being a little bit
[36:50]
today and this is a ideology in brooklyn yeah
[36:53]
so on a december thirteenth may well be sold out
[36:56]
online you know i don't know any way to turn away the door for your message is
[37:00]
looking tempting and that
[37:03]
but also we have our life show coming up and uh... we've got a big announce
[37:06]
january ninth atlanta let me do this properly okay
[37:10]
january ninth twenty fifteen
[37:12]
podcasting history is about to be rules in the room
[37:17]
and only three men or is a wasteland can run by a biker gangs
[37:23]
and also the mayor
[37:25]
also at the bell house
[37:28]
in goannis brooklyn
[37:30]
at ten p m
[37:31]
you and a friend if you buy tickets together and therefore are in
[37:36]
are invited to see the first ever
[37:38]
live recording of a flop house podcast episode
[37:42]
not a movie riffing show
[37:43]
you will not watch a movie with the pot with the flop house cat gang but you
[37:48]
will watch us record a real episode
[37:51]
so that you are less
[37:52]
we recorded for history
[37:54]
uh... and and i think we're gonna notice
[37:56]
her story
[37:58]
if you're a lady and a man
[38:00]
uh... they are going out so it will be rewatched uh... it was
[38:03]
and will be yours idea of a drumroll or something you know the blame and the
[38:06]
whole night is just in the table and said a terrible one of you watching
[38:10]
teenage mutant
[38:12]
ninja
[38:13]
portals
[38:14]
the movie
[38:15]
yeah the the remake that i knew i had two thousand of the older jim henson
[38:20]
version of michael bay production and uh...
[38:22]
it's very
[38:23]
make on fox or
[38:26]
and for a radical turner and alias kodiak's as kcg i don't think that is
[38:32]
that it's really what i know that david fichtner is in it right
[38:35]
yet as shredder
[38:38]
william fichtner david fichtner's brother
[38:41]
uh... so if you're going to the show
[38:45]
try and watch that shitty movie in advance and possibly great movie in
[38:48]
advance the show is and we will as always have watched the movie
[38:51]
mere minutes before going out on stage
[38:54]
uh... so we're going to go on the stage in a day but we are going to do a few
[38:58]
things uh... just for the live audience give them a little extra and tickets are
[39:03]
selling fast as of this recording
[39:05]
i think there is uh... about seventy or less tickets left
[39:09]
uh... flop house records of your fewer thanks mister grammar dictionary brown
[39:15]
of the police chief wish to get everybody but is really inside it was a
[39:18]
real pedantic ass correcting everybody's grammar but that would be
[39:22]
admitting that dictionary brown was his son he must have stood up on the
[39:27]
i used
[39:28]
q
[39:29]
it's uh... this is a case for the attorneys general
[39:38]
bugs me
[39:39]
couldn't actually be collecting money for an expedition to the ozarks
[39:44]
because i'd comes before a except after c i'm afraid bugs me
[39:49]
affect and affect to our two different words bugs meeting has to be wrong about
[39:54]
the sunken pirate treasure
[39:56]
because flammable and inflammable mean the same thing
[40:00]
So anyway, we'll be watching Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
[40:04]
We will also be doing a few things, like Dan said,
[40:06]
just for the live audience
[40:07]
that will not be in the recording.
[40:09]
So that's another thing to get you there
[40:11]
if being a part of Flophouse history isn't enough.
[40:15]
Yeah.
[40:16]
And I think, you know, there'll be other surprises.
[40:18]
You know, surprise guests?
[40:19]
No.
[40:20]
Choreographed dances?
[40:21]
Nope.
[40:23]
I mean, there might be some unchoreographed dances.
[40:25]
There almost certainly will be.
[40:27]
So.
[40:28]
So January 9th, the Flophouse Live,
[40:31]
talking about Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
[40:35]
Rated R, maybe?
[40:38]
Playing at your house.
[40:40]
For prep.
[40:42]
So now it's time for letters.
[40:46]
Wait, can I plug something?
[40:48]
Sure.
[40:49]
This is coming out after it was released,
[40:51]
in case you hadn't heard,
[40:52]
or you don't remember from the last episode,
[40:54]
my first Spider-Man comic,
[40:55]
Spider-Man the X-Men number one,
[40:57]
came out Wednesday of this week.
[40:58]
So go out to your comic store.
[41:00]
If it's sold out, order a new one.
[41:03]
Yes, I read it.
[41:04]
Stuart read it.
[41:07]
I read it while Stuart was sitting next to me
[41:09]
talking to my wife.
[41:10]
I was rude and I said, no thank you.
[41:13]
You missed that entire conversation.
[41:15]
I'll be reading Elliot's comic.
[41:17]
Dan, I think you just,
[41:18]
you may have just set up your possible winning entry
[41:22]
in the most boring story competition of 2014.
[41:25]
A late entry.
[41:26]
The deadline was coming up.
[41:28]
I'm gonna have to shuffle my list around.
[41:30]
You got a strong chance now.
[41:32]
That is, that's good.
[41:33]
What an unnecessary slam.
[41:35]
A late entry onto my top five
[41:39]
most boring stories of the year.
[41:41]
Under Elliot Kaelin, lyrical themes, unnecessary slams.
[41:44]
Most unnecessary dickishness award.
[41:48]
Can I plug one more thing?
[41:49]
Is it plugs?
[41:51]
Is it?
[41:52]
Yeah, this light is a little shaky.
[41:55]
Let me just plug that in.
[41:56]
All right, thank you.
[41:57]
Okay, done.
[42:00]
So, this is Letters,
[42:04]
where we talk to you through the medium of letters.
[42:07]
Wait, no, that's not how it works.
[42:09]
And I'll tell you how it works.
[42:10]
You sent us a letter and now we'll read it.
[42:13]
Talking to you over podcast town.
[42:17]
Flying over podcast town in our podcast zeppelin.
[42:21]
Everyone with a podcast has got one.
[42:24]
And we're watching you sleep and make love at night.
[42:27]
From the skies in our podcast zeppelin over podcast town.
[42:31]
Mail us your letters and we'll read them.
[42:34]
On the airwaves, then we'll answer them.
[42:37]
And we'll share waves with you on the beach.
[42:40]
Like Justin and Kelly at spring break.
[42:43]
These are letters from you that we will now read.
[42:48]
Letters in the sky.
[42:50]
Thank you for allowing us that little concession break.
[42:52]
I love you.
[42:54]
So, this first letter is titled,
[42:57]
Poster for Rocket Crocodile.
[43:00]
And it's from Tristan, last name withheld.
[43:02]
Yes, better be Drew Struzan.
[43:05]
Okay.
[43:07]
Well, Tristan says,
[43:09]
Flophouse, please let Mr. Elliot Kalin know
[43:12]
that the poster for his project,
[43:14]
Rocket Crocodile and the World of Tomorrow is ready.
[43:17]
The untouched proof has been sitting on my desk,
[43:19]
gathering dust and I haven't heard anything.
[43:23]
I know he got my invoices
[43:23]
and he promised payment would be forthcoming.
[43:26]
That was just over a year ago
[43:28]
when we were still doing concept sketches.
[43:30]
He can't just ignore the people he hires.
[43:32]
Just because I'm a freelancer
[43:33]
doesn't mean he doesn't have to pay me.
[43:35]
What happened to the man who was bankrolling
[43:37]
the free venture, Elliot?
[43:39]
Was there ever even a Dr. John Jay name withheld?
[43:42]
Were you gonna be able to pay the frankly ludicrous
[43:44]
$700,000 for the upfront work me and the rest
[43:47]
of your so-called creative team did for you?
[43:49]
I'm beginning to doubt it.
[43:51]
I mean, one, maybe $200,000
[43:52]
for a poster of this majestic quality, sure.
[43:55]
But your set decorator is drunk constantly.
[43:57]
The costume designer is homeless
[43:58]
and hadn't bathed in weeks.
[43:59]
The entire hair and makeup department
[44:00]
was a shoddy attempt to conceal
[44:02]
a major drug trafficking operation.
[44:04]
And I think the VFX guy was a middle schooler
[44:07]
playing around with a four-year-old copy of After Effects.
[44:10]
I see now-
[44:11]
I mean, the accusations have been launched.
[44:13]
I see now that this project of yours
[44:14]
was never meant to be,
[44:16]
and the idea that I could get a huge windfall out of it
[44:18]
was a fool's errand.
[44:19]
I don't even give a damn anymore about getting paid.
[44:21]
Obviously, that was just a con and a lie.
[44:23]
Just come pick up this poster.
[44:25]
I'm gonna use it to line my cat's litter box.
[44:28]
With great affection, Tristan Lastname withheld.
[44:30]
And there's a poster here I'll put up for the show,
[44:34]
but here you go.
[44:36]
Wow, that's a pretty amazing poster.
[44:38]
Can we buy it on momdo.com?
[44:40]
That's pretty great.
[44:41]
I kind of want to frame that.
[44:43]
Yeah.
[44:44]
That's pretty fantastic.
[44:45]
I kind of feel like there should be a T-shirt.
[44:46]
Yeah, there should definitely be a T-shirt.
[44:49]
It really captures everything
[44:51]
that I love about Rocky Crocodile.
[44:52]
The crocodiles, the wisecracking zebras,
[44:54]
the future, the nudity, everything.
[44:57]
Yeah.
[44:58]
Yeah, that's true.
[44:59]
I think this must be Carly Gugino nude behind this.
[45:03]
And the other one is Gina Gershon, I assume.
[45:04]
Yeah, behind this.
[45:05]
They're in like every scene nude.
[45:07]
There's a lot of bending over to pick things up.
[45:12]
Well, here, let me just say
[45:14]
there were some misunderstandings and promises were made
[45:16]
about the movie and its crew
[45:18]
that maybe couldn't have been fulfilled,
[45:19]
but feel better that someday this poster
[45:21]
will see the light of day in the surprisingly
[45:25]
striking documentary,
[45:26]
Elliot Kalin's Rocket Crocodile, The World of Tomorrow.
[45:29]
It's about maybe one of the greatest movies
[45:31]
that was never made, Rocket Crocodile,
[45:33]
and the influence it had on science fiction films
[45:35]
in the following 30 years.
[45:36]
The thing that's fascinating.
[45:37]
A visionary director.
[45:39]
Is you've never even read the original novel,
[45:41]
Rocket Crocodile, The World of Tomorrow.
[45:43]
I was at a party and they said,
[45:44]
what story would you want to make a film of?
[45:46]
And I said, of course, Rocket Crocodile,
[45:48]
The World of Tomorrow,
[45:49]
because I'd seen it on a shelf.
[45:50]
I had never read the story.
[45:51]
I wasn't interested.
[45:52]
In fact, I was going to put my own spin on the tail
[45:54]
and train my own son, Sammy,
[45:56]
to be the lead star Rocket Crocodile.
[45:58]
And that's why for the past 11 months since his birth,
[46:00]
he's been learning karate 17 hours a day.
[46:03]
The weird thing is you got Salvador Dali
[46:04]
and Orson Welles' star in it,
[46:06]
even though they're dead, long dead.
[46:07]
Surprisingly easy to sign contracts with dead people.
[46:09]
You just write their names in.
[46:11]
Well, just get a good necromancer.
[46:13]
Or a bad one.
[46:14]
Or a bad necromancer.
[46:17]
It looks cheap out on it.
[46:17]
It doesn't matter.
[46:18]
So here's what you need to remember is
[46:20]
you'll be famous eventually.
[46:22]
Yeah.
[46:24]
Put that on your pipe.
[46:26]
And I guess cash it?
[46:28]
What do you do with that compliment?
[46:32]
Take it all the way to the compliment bank.
[46:34]
This next email is titled.
[46:36]
That really is an amazing poster, I've got to say.
[46:38]
Yeah, no, it's very nice.
[46:39]
Again, I'll put it up on the website
[46:42]
and maybe we can work something out.
[46:44]
That website is flophousepodcast.org.
[46:47]
No, it's not.
[46:48]
Slash gov dot xxx aquafan.
[46:52]
Flophousepodcast.com.
[46:54]
Blogspot.
[46:55]
Because it is a commercial website.
[46:57]
Oh, this is a commercial?
[46:58]
What for?
[46:59]
Like burritos?
[47:00]
Zappos.
[47:01]
Like Zappos burritos?
[47:03]
Hey, I love their shoes.
[47:04]
How are their burritos?
[47:05]
I ordered one in the mail.
[47:06]
It was a little stale.
[47:08]
Must be down here pretty fast.
[47:09]
My feet are always so wrapped up and warm inside.
[47:11]
I figured their burritos would be great.
[47:14]
And moist.
[47:15]
I always wanted more melted cheese between my toes.
[47:17]
You know what?
[47:18]
I bet if you put your foot in a burrito,
[47:20]
it would feel pretty good.
[47:21]
I'm not so sure about that.
[47:23]
Like a warm burrito, like a toasty burrito.
[47:25]
That's from Dan Script, an American burrito.
[47:27]
If you think it would be good to stick your foot
[47:33]
in a newly killed possum,
[47:35]
I think that's about the same as it would feel
[47:37]
to stick your foot in a warm burrito.
[47:39]
Does that sound pleasant?
[47:40]
Like bones and everything?
[47:42]
Yeah.
[47:42]
Burrito's nice and squishy.
[47:43]
Not the way I make them.
[47:47]
So the next letter.
[47:48]
One of the weirder things we've been talking about.
[47:52]
So this next letter is titled,
[47:54]
My Wife, or I assume, My Wife.
[47:57]
Nice, nice.
[47:57]
Little update.
[47:58]
Okay, continue.
[48:00]
It's from Craig Lastname Withheld, who writes,
[48:03]
I recently convinced my wife to listen to some flop house
[48:06]
while we wrapped Christmas presents.
[48:08]
Big mistake.
[48:09]
That is always a mistake.
[48:11]
When we finished.
[48:12]
Almost every letter that starts,
[48:13]
I convinced my family member here
[48:15]
to listen to the flop house.
[48:16]
It always ends badly.
[48:18]
Dan always sends something disgusting.
[48:22]
Continue.
[48:23]
When we finished up and I turned the episode off,
[48:25]
she described the experience as being like,
[48:28]
quote, when you're with friends,
[48:30]
they start talking about a bunch of bullshit
[48:31]
you're not interested in.
[48:33]
Adding, I don't not like them.
[48:35]
I just don't care what they're talking about.
[48:38]
Well, thanks, I guess.
[48:40]
I don't think she will be a future listener.
[48:42]
I, however, will never stop spreading the good word
[48:44]
of the flop house, Craig Lastname Withheld.
[48:46]
Well, thanks for writing.
[48:47]
Is this a new, is this gonna inaugurate a new theme
[48:49]
of letters written by people who shared us
[48:51]
with others who didn't like us?
[48:52]
I figure that if we neg ourselves,
[48:55]
then we'll end up being more.
[48:57]
Oh.
[48:58]
Oh, more approachable.
[48:58]
I mean, that's not really how the game is played.
[49:01]
I don't know.
[49:02]
Dear Flophouse, your self-esteem seems too high.
[49:04]
So let me tell you what happened
[49:06]
when I introduced my local pastor to your podcast.
[49:09]
He had a place he said you were going.
[49:11]
I wasn't nice.
[49:14]
So this letter, letter number three,
[49:17]
it's from Taj, Lastname Withheld.
[49:20]
The rise of.
[49:21]
Hello, floppers.
[49:21]
I write as a brief respite from the plethora
[49:24]
of slash fiction no doubt being thrown your way.
[49:27]
But on that note, also as would re-return
[49:31]
to the Blue Lagoon work with three castaways,
[49:34]
three pod castaways, if you will,
[49:36]
innocently discovering their love for each other
[49:38]
and their bodies?
[49:39]
Or would it turn into a fight for sexual dominance
[49:41]
a la the Billy Zane star survival island
[49:44]
with Elliot being the Kelly Brook figure lusted after
[49:46]
by the two other sex starved men?
[49:48]
I mean, I buy that part.
[49:50]
Wait a minute.
[49:51]
Wait a minute.
[49:52]
Elliot's the most desirable one out of the three of us?
[49:54]
Think about it, Stuart.
[49:55]
He's the most feminine.
[49:57]
I don't know if I'd say that, exactly.
[49:59]
I would say though that.
[50:00]
What's the biggest erogenous zone? The funny bone. You want someone with a real sense of humor.
[50:05]
I'll tell you something. For the first 17 years of my life, I did not find that to be true.
[50:13]
But anyway, so he goes on. I don't want to indulge.
[50:19]
Wait, so like when you were three, were you trying to make girls laugh to get in their pants?
[50:23]
Even Freud talks of a latency period.
[50:28]
I don't want to indulge the slash fictionites. Instead, I'm thinking about the missed casting opportunities for the original Peaches in movies past and future.
[50:36]
Stewart as Johnny Cash in Walk the Line. Dan as inevitably Eeyore in the Winnie the Pooh movies.
[50:42]
I liked that being mentioned as Johnny Cash, a man with substance abuse problems, led Stewart to briefly pause in bringing a course light to his lips and then decided, eh, I'll drink it anyway.
[50:52]
Maybe it's the key to my music.
[50:54]
Elliot as Gilbert Gottfried in my forthcoming biopic, Voice of an Angel.
[50:59]
Don't appreciate it. I don't even sound like him. I'm not going to say my voice isn't irritating, but it's not his voice.
[51:05]
My question to you three magi is, are there any roles in existing films you would like to have played and why?
[51:14]
I'll field this first because since I picked these questions, I've actually had some time to think of something.
[51:21]
Not to steal an answer from our friends over at Jordan Jesse Go, who talked about this recently, but I think it would be really fun to be in The Music Man as Professor Harold Hill.
[51:35]
I haven't thought about movies that I would like to be in so much because it's an impossibility to do that, but as someone who grew up as a theater nerd, I have thought about musicals that I could be in, and I think that would be a lot of fun.
[51:51]
I mean, I would not be as good as Robert Preston, who was brilliant in that role.
[51:54]
Of course not. No offense.
[51:56]
I mean, he's fantastic.
[51:57]
He was amazing.
[51:58]
He's amazing.
[51:59]
He created the role, basically.
[52:00]
I mean, he makes you forget how much older than Shirley Jones he is.
[52:04]
The way you said it was like, you know what?
[52:06]
I'd love to be in The Godfather.
[52:08]
I don't think I'd be as good necessarily as Marlon Brando.
[52:10]
You leave just a little wiggle room for someone to be like, no, no, I think you would be as good as the defining actor who was in that role.
[52:18]
I was not fishing for that, but also I think it would be fun.
[52:21]
It's a new take, you know?
[52:22]
I think it would be fun.
[52:24]
Into the Woods is coming out.
[52:26]
I've always thought it would be fun to play the wolf.
[52:28]
Yeah, I can see you doing that.
[52:29]
I think maybe with Johnny Depp's track history with musicals, maybe I could give him a run for his money on that one more than the Robert Preston thing.
[52:37]
You could give his hat a run for its money.
[52:39]
It's not as cool as his other hats.
[52:41]
So is Dan playing his hat?
[52:44]
Yeah.
[52:45]
Just a little Dan perched on Johnny Depp's hat?
[52:47]
Sitting, what, Indian style?
[52:50]
Yeah, why not?
[52:51]
And I'm just talking, don't move, Dan.
[52:53]
Don't move.
[52:54]
This is your big break.
[52:55]
Think like a hat.
[52:56]
How would a hat react in this situation?
[52:59]
You are a hat.
[53:00]
It's the same as in every other situation.
[53:02]
He's surprised I got to flip upside down and then land back on his head perfectly.
[53:09]
Are there roles that you guys would like to be in a movie?
[53:12]
Like if you had the chance to?
[53:14]
Yeah, I mean, I think the obvious one would be to say like a Star-Lord type character.
[53:20]
Oh, yeah.
[53:21]
I could see that, yeah.
[53:22]
Or, I mean, the dream role.
[53:24]
You could be a guardian of the galaxy.
[53:27]
Yeah, your regular Rocket Raccoon.
[53:29]
Well, I would say like my dream role would be like Jack Burton in Big Trouble in China.
[53:37]
That's a good one.
[53:38]
I mean, once again, I am in no way saying I'm as good as Kurt Russell in that role.
[53:42]
I think we can all just say none of us think we're as good as the actors who actually played these roles.
[53:47]
I would like to think that I could play a character who gets by more on charisma than competence.
[53:55]
Kind of gets by on his wits, but his wits are pretty dumb.
[53:59]
Yeah.
[54:00]
I love that movie.
[54:01]
Elliot?
[54:02]
I mean, if I wasn't a tiny out-of-shape guy, then Spider-Man would be.
[54:07]
Oh, yeah.
[54:08]
That's a character I would like to play.
[54:10]
Well, with the CGI these days, I feel like you could do it.
[54:12]
And I'm certainly looking forward to like when my son's old enough playing superhero with him and like being those characters.
[54:18]
It's close to when we get to being in a movie.
[54:19]
Yeah, you could be like him.
[54:20]
I see you being a real good Black Adam.
[54:23]
Sure.
[54:24]
Yeah, because my son's a big Captain Marvel fan.
[54:29]
He only wants to do the scene where Billy Batson meets the wizard Shazam in a cave.
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But I think – but if I – a different question.
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If I could be any fictional character, then there's no question.
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It would be Nick Charles.
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I may have said this before.
[54:43]
Oh, yeah.
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Nick Charles from the Thin Man series is – he's Debonair.
[54:46]
He's such a T-Totaler, though.
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He has lots of fun.
[54:48]
Well, he is by the end of the series.
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Look, if I had that much fun drinking, I'd be drunk all the time like him.
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And he's married to Myrna Loy.
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It doesn't get any better.
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Yeah, all right.
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He has a cute dog.
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They solve crimes.
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They're rich.
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Yeah, it's a pretty sweet life.
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Life could be a dream if you were Nick Charles, a fictional character.
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So the last letter of the evening goes a little something like this.
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It's from – well, we'll get to it.
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It goes,
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History story?
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I am a massively colossal fan of the Flophouse.
[55:22]
You fellows are my go-to non-music, non-sports-related entertainment when I run.
[55:26]
I can't put my finger on what makes your podcast such riveting exercise diversion.
[55:30]
It must be either Elliot's insistence on cutting Dan off at every turn.
[55:33]
What's that like?
[55:34]
Hold on a second.
[55:36]
Stuart's insistence on cutting Dan off at every turn.
[55:38]
What are you talking about?
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Or Dan's brain's insistence.
[55:41]
Dan's brain's insistence.
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I want that to be in Latin, the motto on your family crest, Stuart.
[55:51]
On cutting Dan off at every turn.
[55:53]
I'm such a Flop fan, in fact, that I took the seemingly ridiculous step
[55:58]
of asking the three of you to write a comic book,
[56:01]
specifically the Flash Gordon holiday special that's on sale December 17th from Dynamite Entertainment.
[56:06]
At comic book stores everywhere?
[56:07]
Yeah, which I packaged and edited.
[56:09]
Three stories that span the cosmos, each one written by a Flopper,
[56:13]
each one set during a different holiday.
[56:15]
Winter holiday.
[56:16]
And there's a parenthetical,
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Elliot and Stuart, please feel free to hum dramatically during this next part
[56:21]
and do space fighting sound effects.
[56:25]
For real, as Dan McCoy and artist Joseph Cooper take you to the jungle world of Arborea,
[56:30]
where Flash Gordon and Professor Zarkov go to spread Christmas cheer,
[56:35]
only to discover that a faraway force has already has...
[56:40]
Sorry.
[56:41]
I fucked that up.
[56:42]
Dan, what is going on?
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Only to discover...
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It's written down.
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Only to discover that a faraway force...
[56:47]
And you're talking about your story.
[56:48]
That's the other thing.
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You shouldn't be able to wing it.
[56:52]
Only to discover that a faraway force world already has Christmas?
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Question time?
[56:58]
Chill as Elliot Kalin and artist Stephen Downey head to Earth
[57:03]
and chronicle the exploits of a lone alien beast warrior
[57:06]
abandoned on our planet after a failed invasion attempt by Ming the Merciless.
[57:10]
But what could a beast man have in common with a Jewish family
[57:14]
trying to celebrate Hanukkah in a hostile town?
[57:18]
And spills, when Stuart Wellington and Laura Margarita present Dale Arnn,
[57:25]
science reporter, Brooklyn, fear, girlfriends, ex-boyfriends,
[57:30]
a big-ass crab, and walkie-talkies.
[57:34]
Parentheses, humming can stop here.
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Dawn of the Dead.
[57:40]
Yeah, alright.
[57:42]
So, could people hear that?
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I don't know.
[57:44]
Anyway, three different winter stories.
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I would argue that that was a large reason why I fucked up.
[57:50]
You asked us to do it, dude.
[57:52]
This guy asked us to do it.
[57:53]
And who is this guy?
[57:54]
Well, we're getting to it.
[57:55]
You might ask...
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You'd think he would have given us enough information by now to know his name.
[57:59]
You might ask, why would a comic book editor be compelled to collaborate with three guys
[58:03]
who would willingly watch and ruminate upon the likes of Marmaduke,
[58:06]
Outscross, The Oogie Loves, After Earth, and nearly all of late-period Nicolas Cage's canon?
[58:12]
I reached out because of your obvious affinity for comics
[58:15]
and formidable ability to find fun in even the direst of storytelling sinkholes.
[58:20]
And I'm happy to relay to fellow listeners that none of the peach is disappointed.
[58:23]
Your stories are packed with fun and personality and heart,
[58:26]
fully accessible to new readers, and can all be enjoyed,
[58:29]
even by those who don't usually read comics.
[58:33]
You all came to work with tremendous talent and discipline,
[58:35]
even party dude Stuart,
[58:37]
who I expected to deliver a stream of devil-may-care cool-guy excuses
[58:42]
for why he took six months to turn in his script
[58:44]
and why it was written in Sharpie on beer coasters.
[58:48]
This was not the case.
[58:49]
Stu's a pro.
[58:51]
Also, in Dan's story...
[58:52]
Hey, Collins.
[58:53]
Dude, why you blowin' up my spot, puttin' me on blast, etc.
[58:57]
Also, in Dan's story, not a single mention of an alien wife butt.
[59:02]
Surprising, but still entertaining.
[59:04]
One of the story ideas you pitched did involve porn, though.
[59:09]
Well, sure.
[59:10]
But that's because there was the Flesh Gordon...
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Someday I'll tell the story.
[59:16]
And then, whatever year that is,
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we'll have a new forerunner for the Most Boring Stories Award.
[59:22]
Continue, Daniel.
[59:23]
So thanks for jamming out on A Great Comic, gentlemen.
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And I hope all of your fans will seek out a copy
[59:29]
of your Great Comic this holiday season.
[59:31]
Keep up the great flops, fellas.
[59:33]
Nate Cosby, last name withheld.
[59:35]
Comic book editor, job title withheld.
[59:39]
So, uh, there you go.
[59:41]
The Flesh Gordon Holiday Special.
[59:42]
Written by us jerks.
[59:44]
Edited by the great Nate Cosby.
[59:46]
You thought you were just getting letters, but you got a plug.
[59:49]
You got that last letter was a commercial.
[59:51]
That was a stealth plug.
[59:52]
This was a regular, like someone with invisible hair,
[59:55]
This was a regular, uh, Red Rider, Little Orphan Annie, Ovaltine ad.
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Right in the middle of your radio program, you've got Christmas stories.
[1:00:05]
So, thank you for all those letters.
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Thank you for sending them, thank you for reading them, and thank you for living them.
[1:00:13]
But now, it's time for us to recommend movies that we saw that we actually liked.
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Things you should watch instead of spending an hour and twenty-two minutes in the company of Justin and Kelly.
[1:00:26]
Are they coming over?
[1:00:29]
You know, I'm going to zoom through this because we're running long.
[1:00:34]
Yeah, but also, I caught up with a bunch of the prestige pictures of this year.
[1:00:41]
Were you on a plane or something?
[1:00:43]
Well, we had Thanksgiving week off, and I got a lot of screeners, and I went to the movies in the theater.
[1:00:49]
And I saw a bunch of movies, all of which I enjoyed to one degree or another.
[1:00:54]
I saw Interstellar, which I liked.
[1:00:56]
I saw Whiplash, which I liked a lot.
[1:00:58]
I saw Birdman, which, apologies to our friend Scott Tobias over at The Dissolve, I enjoyed a good deal.
[1:01:06]
He's going to track you down, dude.
[1:01:08]
Yeah, I know.
[1:01:09]
You just earned yourself a bruising.
[1:01:12]
I was cruising for it, so it's really my own fault.
[1:01:15]
Just like in the movie Cruising, that's what that's about, right?
[1:01:17]
Yeah, kind of.
[1:01:22]
But the movie that I think I'm going to recommend is Inherent Vice, the new P.T. Anderson movie.
[1:01:29]
Where'd you see that?
[1:01:29]
Fuck off.
[1:01:30]
I saw it in a screening, again, a Writers Guild screening.
[1:01:34]
And I will say that I enjoyed that movie about as much as one can enjoy any film that you understand about 40% of.
[1:01:43]
Because it marries the...
[1:01:44]
Was it an Esperanto?
[1:01:45]
Well, it marries the incomprehensible plotting of something like Chandler's The Big Chill, or Big Sleep, sorry.
[1:01:52]
No, no, Raymond Chandler's The Big Chill, where they're trying to solve the mystery of...
[1:01:56]
I corrected it immediately.
[1:01:59]
God damn it.
[1:02:01]
We were all going to, all the suspects are here, I guess we'll dance to some Motown songs.
[1:02:07]
Down these mean kitchens, a man must go.
[1:02:11]
It combines the plotting of something like The Big Sleep with the incomprehensible prose of Thomas Pynchon.
[1:02:19]
Yeah, I've tried reading him so many times.
[1:02:23]
Yeah, I mean, Inherent Vice is supposed to be his most accessible book, but even that, I give it a whirl, was not a fan.
[1:02:31]
But I enjoy the movie a lot, mostly for its texture and feel, which is what you're left with when you can't understand really what's going on.
[1:02:42]
I mean, I got the broad strokes, but there are some mystery threads that are left widely hanging by the film.
[1:02:49]
But it's a hard movie to explain.
[1:02:54]
Do you see it in 70mm?
[1:02:56]
No, it's a movie that...
[1:03:00]
I'm X-rated.
[1:03:01]
No, but I mean, there was a big point about how it was screened in 70mm.
[1:03:05]
70? I know that it was shot in 35mm using film, so it has old-time film texture.
[1:03:14]
But I think that Interstellar was in 70mm.
[1:03:20]
Interstellar, I thought it was a 70mm.
[1:03:22]
Yeah, but I thought it was those two.
[1:03:23]
Oh.
[1:03:26]
Don't write in and tell us, because we don't care.
[1:03:28]
But...
[1:03:29]
I mean, write in, we'll just ignore it.
[1:03:30]
Talk about it on Twitter, say Stuart Rules.
[1:03:32]
If I'm wrong, don't say anything.
[1:03:34]
No, say Stuart Rules if he's wrong.
[1:03:35]
I guess that's fair.
[1:03:36]
You know, if you like the vibe of something like Altman's The Long Goodbye, there's a lot to like in this.
[1:03:42]
And as much as I did not fully feel like I got everything that the movie was trying to do, I also want to see it again.
[1:03:50]
Hey, you felt like you had an experience.
[1:03:52]
It stuck with me.
[1:03:53]
You had an experience, yeah.
[1:03:54]
How would it fit within the Paul Thomas Anderson canon?
[1:03:58]
Because we need to fit it in there and fire it at the castle we're besieging with our Paul Thomas Anderson canon.
[1:04:03]
Behind the chainshot.
[1:04:05]
The chainshot will destroy the defenders.
[1:04:07]
The chain rips through their heads, and then a copy of There Will Be Blood takes out the main ramparts.
[1:04:13]
Pops out of their bodies.
[1:04:14]
I will say that it may rank the lowest for me with the possible obsession of Heart 8, which I've seen once a long time ago, so I don't know.
[1:04:24]
Whoa, you like Heart 8 less than Magnolia?
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That's what I was thinking, too.
[1:04:28]
Oh, no, no, you know, I like this better than Magnolia.
[1:04:30]
Okay.
[1:04:31]
Magnolia has a great first seven minutes.
[1:04:35]
I mean, I like Magnolia, but it's got, it's also got a lot of problems.
[1:04:38]
I mean, it's weird that he licensed out a movie like that to be a bakery.
[1:04:45]
That's one for the New Yorkers, the Sex and the City fans.
[1:04:47]
I apologize, I totally forgot that Magnolia was a P.T. Anderson film.
[1:04:51]
So, anyway.
[1:04:52]
It's a P.T. 109 film.
[1:04:54]
So that's my recommendation.
[1:04:56]
That was more of a gonk droid of a film.
[1:04:58]
Where do you want to go with this?
[1:05:01]
Wait, like, which one of us does a recommendation?
[1:05:03]
I'm going to do two recommendations.
[1:05:05]
Boom.
[1:05:06]
Holy shit.
[1:05:07]
I have one movie to recommend.
[1:05:08]
A double shot.
[1:05:09]
So it's going to go last?
[1:05:10]
So the first movie I'm going to recommend is another prestige picture called The Hobbit Battle of Five Armies.
[1:05:17]
It's a little-known independent film.
[1:05:18]
Dan and I got to see an early screening of this.
[1:05:22]
I don't think that if you have not been a fan of the earlier two films, Unexpected Journey
[1:05:28]
and Desolation of Smaug, this will not make a convert of you.
[1:05:31]
If you go into it expecting to be mad or not like it, don't watch this movie.
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Spend your two and a half hours.
[1:05:38]
That's right.
[1:05:39]
It's only two and a half hours long.
[1:05:41]
Spend those hours doing something else.
[1:05:42]
Or as Joe Jackson calls it, a live action short.
[1:05:46]
Wait, watch Castle Creek once and a half times?
[1:05:49]
Yeah.
[1:05:50]
You'll get to the weird part the second time through.
[1:05:54]
So...
[1:05:55]
No, but it is...
[1:05:56]
I said that I thought it was the best of the three and you agreed.
[1:05:59]
Yeah, I think you had a good point.
[1:06:01]
At least for me, and I think you said it too, the original trilogy, though it didn't have
[1:06:08]
a particularly noticeable dipping quality, started off stronger and went downhill as
[1:06:13]
opposed to The Hobbit, which kind of starts a little shaky but picks up steam as it goes
[1:06:19]
along.
[1:06:20]
It actually feels like Peter Jackson listens to his critics a little bit because this last
[1:06:23]
one moves at a pretty good clip.
[1:06:26]
So that's what I'm recommending.
[1:06:27]
It's my catchphrase.
[1:06:28]
Yeah, it's true.
[1:06:31]
And then I'm also going to recommend another movie that has been getting a lot of press.
[1:06:35]
I'm going to recommend The Babadook, which is an Australian horror film.
[1:06:40]
It's basically about...
[1:06:41]
About a ghost with a big ass.
[1:06:42]
How long were you worried about that?
[1:06:43]
As soon as I said I was going to recommend The Babadook.
[1:06:44]
It's the way you said, Babadook.
[1:06:45]
You're like, Saturday Night Live missed its chance when they had Nicki Minaj on.
[1:06:54]
The working title was Pulcher Trunk.
[1:07:00]
So yeah, it's a horror film about a single mother who's raising a six-year-old child
[1:07:09]
and they discover a scary pop-up book.
[1:07:13]
It's super effective, super frightening, plays on a lot of themes that adults, particularly
[1:07:19]
parents, will find frightening.
[1:07:21]
Hey, that's me.
[1:07:22]
I'm the audience for that.
[1:07:23]
So you should totally watch it and be prepared to be scared.
[1:07:29]
In a way I wouldn't have been scared a year ago.
[1:07:31]
Watch it with the lights on and then turn them off because it's scarier that way.
[1:07:35]
Watch it with the lights on and then turn the lights off because you're sleepy.
[1:07:40]
Just like sex.
[1:07:42]
It's scarier when the lights are off and you're wearing masks.
[1:07:50]
Elliot, I think it's your turn.
[1:07:51]
I recommend two movies.
[1:07:52]
Yeah, you did recommend two movies and then having sex with masks on because it's scarier.
[1:07:57]
So I'm going to go a different way.
[1:07:59]
I haven't gotten to see really any new movies because what are you going to do?
[1:08:04]
You got a baby or something?
[1:08:05]
I do have a baby or something.
[1:08:07]
So you're going to recommend an older movie?
[1:08:09]
I am going to recommend an older movie.
[1:08:11]
And hey, it's Elliot.
[1:08:12]
How about an old foreign film?
[1:08:14]
You guessed it.
[1:08:16]
This is a movie that fell under my philosophy of if it looks interesting on Turner Classic Movies,
[1:08:22]
from the program guide description, I will record it and try it.
[1:08:25]
And I'm glad that I did.
[1:08:26]
This is a Russian movie called Nine Days in One Year from 1964 directed by Mikhail Rom
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and starring a couple actors you may recognize from other Russian films in the period.
[1:08:37]
One of them was also – was the star of The Cranes Are Flying, which people may know.
[1:08:42]
But anyway, Nine Days in One Year is a love triangle between three physicists, two men and one woman, or it starts that way at least.
[1:08:51]
And one of the physicists is more devoted to his work than the others, but as a result of that, he receives a life-threatening dose of radiation.
[1:09:01]
And so he has to decide whether he's going to keep working and risk another dose that might kill him
[1:09:05]
or he's going to try to survive and devote himself to his wife.
[1:09:10]
But he believes the work he is doing is so important that it's hard to tear away.
[1:09:13]
Like Dr. Manhattan?
[1:09:15]
In a way, yeah, except instead of getting naked blue superpowers, he's just noticeably frailer.
[1:09:22]
But for a movie that sounds a little dry from that – a story about a guy who's torn in Soviet Russia between saying he needs to design a new type of fusion reaction for the people and trying to decide between that and an emotional life.
[1:09:38]
It sounds like it could be propagandistic or kind of flat, but actually the characters in it are very real-feeling and well-rounded.
[1:09:47]
There's particularly a scene where the female character, after she marries one of the scientists, is lying in bed thinking about how she is a bad wife.
[1:09:56]
She can't cook well. She can't clean well.
[1:09:58]
And what it really is is that she's trying to figure out how she's going to survive.
[1:10:00]
trapped in this role that she feels like she has to do but she's not really happy
[1:10:04]
with but it's something that you wouldn't you don't see a lot of in
[1:10:08]
movies I feel like a character turning on themselves that way their internal
[1:10:12]
internal monologue over their relationship or whatever but anyway I
[1:10:17]
bet there's a lot of funny jokes in it too and the title comes from the fact
[1:10:21]
that all the scenes are set in nine days of this one year period and I guess I
[1:10:27]
think it's actually a little bit more than the year but it'll be but it
[1:10:29]
literally says like day one there's a little bit of narration and we see that
[1:10:32]
day day two and we see the relevant scenes from that day months later and is
[1:10:37]
it uh is it dubbed or do I have to read it you're gonna have to read it it's
[1:10:40]
some teeth load but I think the entire movie is available on Mosfilm's YouTube
[1:10:45]
channel possibly I think it's also a Mosfilm which is Moscow film I mean it
[1:10:51]
was one of the big studio it's not moss like like growing on things because of
[1:10:57]
moisture or the whole movie I think might be on in the criterion section
[1:11:01]
streaming section of Hulu but it's well worth seeing nine days one year I
[1:11:06]
highly recommend it all right well guys for being here I feel like we need to
[1:11:12]
wrap up before Elliot's nose literally falls off its face get late and I am
[1:11:16]
sure yeah and then it would be like another classic Russian story that
[1:11:20]
knows by who go go oh yeah the guy wakes up his nose is missing and he finds that
[1:11:29]
he can't turn into a cockroach he can't France Kafka French Kafka yep he finds
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that he's turned into a sexy roach who is trying he sees a cat with a stripe on
[1:11:44]
its back and assumes it's a lady roach and he's trying to rape it Pepe let
[1:11:50]
Joseph K that's what that's what's called a literary mashup yeah it's a
[1:11:54]
regular Pride and Prejudice and Zombo's
[1:12:02]
that's all bros thanks for zombies that were on bros soccer shorts thanks for
[1:12:10]
being with us thanks to the contest winner Jason McIsaac for recommending
[1:12:17]
from Justin to Kelly and fuck you for recommending to Kelly who are roasted
[1:12:23]
and for the flop house I've been Dan McCoy for the flop house I've been
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Stuart Wellington from the flop house I'm Elliot Kaelin goodnight everyone
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blam
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good enough the flop house motto hey we're not getting paid for this good
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enough yeah so if it hurt a freaking B or the P call it a V or a C if you're
[1:12:59]
nasty or the M or the E all right in a coffin going on
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might be the joke about a vampire it seems this vampire
Description
Song of the autumn contest winner Jason MacIssac decreed that we should be subjected to legendary season-one-of-American-Idol ancillary flop From Justin to Kelly. Did he take it easy on us, or is there now a bounty on his head? Meanwhile Stuart introduces his innovative new restaurant concept, and Elliott murders Dan on air.
Movies recommended in this episode:Inherent ViceThe Hobbit: Battle of the Five ArmiesNine Days of One Year
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