Ep. #192 - Chappie

[0:00] On this episode we discuss Chappie, Charles Chappielin, the silent comedian, robots.

[0:30] Hey everyone and welcome to The Flophouse. I'm Dan McCoy. I'm Stuart Wellington. And I'm Elliot Kalin of The Flophouse.

[0:45] This episode is hosted by us, Stuart, Elliot, and Dan in The Three Flopsketeers, The Flophouse. That's a colon.

[0:56] Did you get it checked out? You should get those checked regularly by your doctor.

[1:01] Yeah, the older I get, the more I check out my colons, mess up my colons, my commas.

[1:06] Now I just imagine you with a hand mirror checking your own colons.

[1:09] Yeah, I'm like, hey, looking good. Looking good.

[1:14] I haven't shaved in a while, I guess.

[1:16] All right, well, too far.

[1:19] His face. Oh, so this isn't a colonoscopy podcast. This is a podcast where we watch a bad movie, then we talk about it.

[1:27] Thanks for keeping us on track, Stuart. I appreciate that.

[1:30] And Dan, as if we didn't announce it earlier, what movie did we watch this week?

[1:35] We watched a movie called Chappie.

[1:38] Chappie.

[1:39] Chappie.

[1:42] It's the sequel to WALL-E. It's WALL-E's friend.

[1:47] It is about a robot, though, or as old person would say, robot.

[1:51] A droid.

[1:52] An android.

[1:54] A synthetic humanoid.

[1:57] A people machine.

[2:00] A replicant.

[2:01] A manicizer.

[2:02] A clicker.

[2:04] A botsko.

[2:06] Botsko?

[2:07] That's what they call him.

[2:09] An electroman.

[2:10] A metal dude.

[2:12] Metal dude solid.

[2:15] That's the lazy version of Metal Gear Solid where he just kind of hangs out.

[2:20] Solid Snake, your mission, finish these Doritos.

[2:24] All right.

[2:25] Thanks, big boss.

[2:28] So this is some kind of can man?

[2:31] Yeah.

[2:32] That's what we're talking about?

[2:33] Yeah, he's a man made out of cans.

[2:34] Named Chappo?

[2:35] Yeah.

[2:36] Okay, so why did we watch this movie, guys? Was it a huge success?

[2:39] It was not that.

[2:42] It was not a huge success.

[2:44] It's made by Neil Blomkamp.

[2:46] Who, everybody likes District 9.

[2:48] Everybody does.

[2:49] Yeah.

[2:50] I didn't see.

[2:51] You find a kid on the street and ask him about District 9.

[2:53] They're like, shit, yeah, I do.

[2:55] I'm a kid.

[2:58] Get the fuck off, dude.

[3:01] What are you asking me about District 9 for?

[3:03] I'm like nine years old.

[3:05] District 9 rules, homework drools.

[3:08] Turn these skateboards off.

[3:10] The movie's nine years old.

[3:11] Get out of my way before I use the slingshot in my back pocket.

[3:14] Hand me that go-gurt so I can be on my way, dude.

[3:18] Throws a dinosaur-shaped chicken nugget at you.

[3:21] I don't have time for regular yogurt.

[3:24] My yogurt has to be on the go.

[3:27] In today's busy, work-a-day children's world, you don't have time to sit and eat yogurt.

[3:32] Put it in a tube and then suck it down while you're riding your trike.

[3:37] Sometimes life can be a real brat race.

[3:40] This is a kid, and he's a bratty kid.

[3:43] Oh, I get it.

[3:45] Not a brat race.

[3:47] Oh, yeah, I thought you meant like at the stadium when those big hot dogs race each other.

[3:53] Yeah, the old stadium.

[3:54] Yeah, there's nothing medieval about it.

[3:57] So Chappie, yeah, Neil Blomkamp, people like District 9.

[4:03] I didn't see Elysium.

[4:05] I know Stuart is not a fan.

[4:07] I thought it was okay.

[4:08] It had its moments.

[4:10] It had its moments.

[4:11] All the action scenes are shot really, like, awkwardly.

[4:14] It's like a mix of slow-mo and over-stylized stuff.

[4:17] It has the worst Jodie Foster performance, if you were wondering.

[4:22] Yeah, if you were ranking them.

[4:25] Yeah.

[4:26] Worse than Nell?

[4:27] Worse than Nell.

[4:29] I would say worse than Nell.

[4:30] Worse than Freaky Friday?

[4:31] Or was it Wacky Wednesday?

[4:33] Which of those days did she switch them on?

[4:35] Freaky Tuesday.

[4:37] It was Manic Monday.

[4:40] It was Thirsty Thursday.

[4:42] Well, that's...

[4:45] Apparently her cinemography...

[4:49] Cinemography, yeah, her cinemography.

[4:52] Is basically a restaurant schedule.

[4:56] Thirsty Thursday is where she switches with Hayley Mills so she can drink.

[5:03] It turns out her mom was just an alcoholic.

[5:06] And then there was Surprisingly Sane Saturday.

[5:09] And, of course, Sacred Sunday.

[5:11] Where they switch minds, but it doesn't matter because they're in church all day.

[5:15] Okay, so they're all trapped there?

[5:17] Yeah, yeah.

[5:18] It's just like the end of The Exterminating Angel.

[5:21] Spoiler alert.

[5:22] They don't get out of the church.

[5:23] Okay.

[5:25] So this is his...

[5:26] Did he make just three movies or has he made other movies?

[5:28] He's making the new Alien movie too, right?

[5:30] Yeah, so District 9 kind of came out of nowhere.

[5:32] It was like a...

[5:33] I think it was initially pitched as like a Halo test movie or something like that.

[5:39] And everybody kind of went nuts for it because it was like a harsh and gritty take on sci-fi.

[5:46] I don't know if I'd say hard sci-fi.

[5:48] I would not say hard sci-fi.

[5:50] No, not at all.

[5:51] Except that you could say it's hard sci-fi and that it is taking a believable situation.

[5:57] That alien refugees land on Earth and spinning out the consequences of that.

[6:01] It's not some kind of super crazy science that could never exist.

[6:06] Are you saying that if I had an electro gun, I couldn't just make people explode like giant watermelon bags?

[6:11] Now that is less hard sci-fi.

[6:13] But I think what got people out was also the extreme sense of place.

[6:17] Like South Africa was not a place people had thought of as a setting for science fiction.

[6:22] It played off of South Africa's own racial divide and bad race history.

[6:27] But also that movie had an interesting sense of tone in that it was kind of this documentary style.

[6:35] But it was a goofy comedy to some degree.

[6:40] It was a mix of comedy and things.

[6:42] I don't know if I'd call it goofy.

[6:44] A bunch of people dying.

[6:45] Yeah, but Sholto-Copley's character is this priggish character turning slowly into an alien.

[6:52] And there was a lot of zany sort of comedy that went along with that.

[6:55] And kind of turning into a hero.

[6:57] A character who was very unlikable to begin with.

[7:00] And this movie also has, I would say, a strange mix of tones.

[7:04] A very strange mix of tones.

[7:06] Unsuccessful version of that.

[7:07] And I'm not just talking about the music.

[7:10] Because it's made up of tones.

[7:13] Music is a series of tones.

[7:16] Like Tony, Tony, Tony.

[7:18] Here he decided, he said, let me go back to my South African roots.

[7:21] I'm going to make another science fiction movie about a problem in South Africa.

[7:25] Which I guess is crime in the police presence.

[7:27] But I'm going to do it in a –

[7:29] Rabbit robots.

[7:30] I'm going to talk about the robot problem.

[7:32] Rabbit robots.

[7:34] Running rabbits.

[7:36] Round the rabbit.

[7:39] Rogue robots ran round the rocks.

[7:43] The rugged robot rides.

[7:46] Radical.

[7:48] Rated R for alliteration.

[7:52] Which is against the law.

[7:53] In the future.

[7:55] The year is 2047.

[7:57] And all alliteration has been deemed a thought crime.

[8:02] Thursdays are no longer thirsty.

[8:06] But the Good Grouping of Grammar Gang has the case.

[8:10] An underground rebel pirate group dedicated to words that start with the same letter placed next to each other.

[8:18] Can they survive?

[8:19] No.

[8:20] Must they survive?

[8:21] Yes.

[8:22] Starring Mandy Moore.

[8:26] As Mandy Patinkin.

[8:35] I like how this is the least dystopian future ever.

[8:39] So you can't put words that sound sort of like each other next to each other.

[8:43] Mandy the battleship potential thinks you can.

[8:47] It really dooms any Fantastic Four reboots.

[8:49] That's true.

[8:50] I mean it already doomed.

[8:51] But the –

[8:52] Doctor doomed.

[8:54] That's another alliteration for you.

[8:57] Look, we're all going to be arrested by the grammar police.

[9:01] So the – so this is – it's another South African set movie.

[9:06] And yet here it's decided that it's going to be much harsher in some ways and also attempting to be sweeter in others.

[9:13] And much of the character work is going to be on the shoulders of South African kind of like trash, Zeph rap group, De Antwoord or whatever it's pronounced.

[9:28] What is Zeph?

[9:29] Zeph is – I only know this because I was looking it up in between watching the movie and recording this.

[9:35] Zeph is a cultural movement in South Africa which is an attempt to kind of make a style out of things associated with the white lower middle class.

[9:45] People – the word Zeph comes apparently from a – it's a short name of a model of car that was very popular among white South Africans who didn't have a lot of money.

[9:56] Who were better off than black South Africans at the time because they had a lot of money.

[10:00] Apartheid was still in effect during this time, which is like the 70s and 80s, but this is a

[10:05] kind of a way to

[10:07] reclaim I guess that

[10:09] feeling of being

[10:11] lower class but

[10:13] Being a I mean, I don't know the all the day. You're not an expert on Zeph shit

[10:18] I am NOT when you say is F to me

[10:20] I say that sounds like somebody's alien sidekick in a cartoon from the 80s in which they take characters from a popular sitcom and put

[10:27] them in space

[10:28] So like family ties the space cartoon like

[10:33] Michael J. Fox's sidekick would be like Zeph the talking like party alien who eats pizza all the time. Mm-hmm

[10:40] Well, he's pizza with moon dust and I don't know

[10:44] salami

[10:47] Really gave up on the space theme. I don't know. It's like astro salami or something from a meteor

[10:52] I

[10:55] Don't know it's made out of like it's made out of like Venetian pork. I don't know a bunch of triples

[11:03] Tribble sausage probably tastes pretty good. Yeah, they want to get all the hair off. Mm-hmm when you shave a triple what's underneath?

[11:13] Is it like just this pink bag of flesh and gooey

[11:18] Don't even I imagine if you shave a triple is just a big testicle essentially

[11:23] Mm-hmm. Yeah, that was it was originally called the trouble with testicles

[11:31] How the they multiply it more about how you just you just don't want him to get kicked

[11:36] It was a short episode a brief

[11:39] Rochambeau craze that hit the Enterprise

[11:43] and all the guys were walking around covering their junk all the time because they were worried about it and

[11:48] Spock was like it is illogical to hit another man in the testicles, but then he got really

[12:02] It's a way that we all as men we bond

[12:05] Of course hurt each other then Spock entered Balfour

[12:08] Which is the once every seven years period when a Vulcan wants to hit other guys in the nuts

[12:14] It is very volatile. Yeah

[12:17] I

[12:20] Feel bad. I can't remember what kind of blood a Vulcan has guys so bad

[12:25] You can look it up. Just pause the podcast. All right, look it up on track a pedia

[12:30] So explain explain the Internet to me. Okay, so you just pause the podcast. You're still not doing that. Okay. Okay

[12:36] Well, I'll just keep going. So you pull up your help menu

[12:42] And you type in find me find me Vulcan blood

[12:48] And then you go down the color

[12:51] Spectrum that they provide you and you pick the one that you think looks most like the color you remember as the color of Vulcan blood

[13:06] It's gonna provide a somewhat limited spectrum

[13:10] Like come on, it's a

[13:13] Radic Internet, it's like what color do you think?

[13:16] So should we talk about this movie?

[13:19] So let's so I think there's an elephant in the room

[13:25] Wow, it's really taking a big dump

[13:27] And the elephants name is short-circuit and RoboCop now

[13:32] Yeah, if ever there was a movie that is a smashing together of short-circuit and RoboCop with a heavy helping of South African rap

[13:40] This is that movie

[13:42] So it begins and we're like, how is this not the remake to RoboCop didn't we already watch that yeah

[13:47] Because so South Africa is facing a huge crime wave

[13:51] the answer to it robot policemen, but these robot policemen don't have their minds of their own they operate off of

[13:58] human

[14:00] Operators who wear neural helmets. Okay. Yeah, I was never and there's also like a guardian chip that controls them

[14:06] I was never totally sure of

[14:08] What the control system was for these robots partly because they move through it pretty fast at the beginning partly because everyone has South African

[14:14] accents and those are

[14:16] Not always easy to understand which is why it's weird that the one character in the movie that I felt had a pretty straightforward

[14:23] Accent is subtitled and he's this evil crime boss who looks like Zangief, but we'll get to that kind of he's he's no

[14:30] I think you're doing Zangief a disservice

[14:33] Oh

[14:34] He looks like someone who wants to be Zangief pretty badly. He looks like a professional wrestler character. Yes

[14:40] Yeah, so they've made these robots called scouts that look like they have bunny ears and they walk around

[14:46] They look like the robot from Appleseed

[14:48] Yeah. Yeah, they've got a very like a bunny. I mean, I think that's his name means bunny in ancient Greek

[14:54] Orarios or something you remember way more about Appleseed than I do

[14:58] I remember I get it so mixed up with all the other like robot anime manga stories

[15:04] mm-hmm, it's hard for it hard for me to separate that from like ghost in the shell or

[15:09] Go on. What's the minion tank police?

[15:12] Armitage that kind of stuff and Macross Macross

[15:16] Come on, Danny

[15:25] Cowboy bebop, you know

[15:29] Row row row be drawn good at least say like Oh Zorro Kami at least say like robot carnival

[15:38] Zoom zoom guy Wow

[15:40] Dan's tried so hard

[15:42] But this is telling me is Dan did not see any of the three animes that everyone who was like 13 in the 1990s saw

[15:49] Were Akira sure vampire hunter D. Okay and robot carnival

[15:54] Goes to the show not ghost in the shell not ninja scroll. This is pre ghost in the shell pre ninja scroll

[16:00] Whoa, there was a time when you either saw Akira because you heard about it and send it awesome

[16:05] Or you were watching TBS late at night and they would show vampire hunter D and robot carnival all the time

[16:11] I don't think I ever saw a robot carnival. Oh, really? What's the selling point? It's a series of short cartoons about robots

[16:16] Oh, it's not a carnival run by robots. I wish it's like big

[16:21] It's like big top peewee, but they're robots it's called big

[16:25] Yeah, there's the robots. Nobody trusts

[16:28] There's the bearded robot the fat robot the strongman robot robot who gets shot out of a can and Michael Bay's right and all these

[16:35] Ideas, then I guess I'm thinking more of a circus sideshow than a carnival

[16:39] Yeah, I mean a carnival robots mostly just tumblers. Hey shoot your robot oil into these

[16:45] Balloons

[16:49] Are you describing a robot condom?

[16:51] Let's talk about the movie. Let's not go any further into this

[16:55] horrifying

[16:56] This horrifying tetsuo body hammer world that we just entered erotic. I'm gonna go horrifying

[17:03] There's a very thin line between horrifying and erotic, but I don't want to cross it. So

[17:08] They have these robots

[17:10] Their creator Dev Patel, okay, was it Dev Patel? Yeah. Yeah who works for Sigourney Weaver is in his newsroom

[17:21] Nathaniel Edward Wilson Stephen room

[17:25] the third

[17:27] so he works for Sigourney Weaver for a robot company and

[17:31] At the same time for a robot company. They have a really shitty office. It's like the most pedestrian office building

[17:38] It's very open space in that the only Sigourney Weaver has her own office, but that's what tech companies do. It's all about the

[17:47] Moments, you can't predict where interactions lead to ideas

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[18:28] Hugh Jackman on the other hand as a competing program called moose, which is one big

[18:34] Robo mech type

[18:38] It's like a big 80 209 battle tech thing

[18:40] I'm a Bob that has as we find out later a big gun and then also a big cutting arm for chopping people

[18:49] But he's mad because the scout program is taking away the need for his moose program which to be fair is ill-thought-out

[18:55] He's trying to sell it to the South African police the Johannesburg police who are very happy with the scout program

[19:01] Because it's led to this huge drop in crime

[19:03] By explaining how it can shoot enemy aircraft out of the sky

[19:06] Which seems like not a problem that the police need to deal with and the policeman very reasonably points this out

[19:13] It does not make you Jackman happy now Hugh Jackman's character is one of the more interesting ones and that he's this collection of character

[19:19] Trick character traits that include always walking around with a gun on his hip even in the office. He's got a hockey haircut

[19:24] He has an extreme hockey haircut, and he is also surprisingly religious and crosses himself at least once in the movie

[19:30] And he wears some great shorts

[19:32] He I think I think he basically like went to a couple rugby bars and based his character around

[19:39] People he saw in those bars. It's totally acceptable. Yeah, imagine the worst length of

[19:45] short, you know like

[19:48] The leg length that you would not want on a short and that's what he has

[19:51] So wait, you mean they're really short or they're too long. I'm not sure. Yeah. Yeah, are they like adult shorts?

[19:58] They like they like hit

[20:00] Are they like Kevin Smith's short pants?

[20:02] Should he be wearing old-style knickers instead of socks?

[20:05] I'm just saying they hit exactly at the knee.

[20:07] They're not like above the knee, they're not below the knee.

[20:09] That sounds like the perfect length for shorts.

[20:12] I don't know.

[20:12] Right at the knee.

[20:13] Yeah, it gives you 50% of the pant that you were hoping for.

[20:16] Yeah.

[20:17] Now, never in this...

[20:18] By the way, I just think, I, you know...

[20:19] We barely talked about the movie.

[20:22] Can we stop talking about the movie for a second

[20:23] and let's talk about shorts some more?

[20:26] Explaining a hockey haircut, it bears a little...

[20:29] Okay, explain.

[20:30] How is it different than a mullet?

[20:31] Explain.

[20:32] It's like a mullet, only it's more slicked down to the head.

[20:36] Yeah, it looks like the sort of thing

[20:37] that would perfectly fit a,

[20:39] like if you were to put on a hockey helmet

[20:42] and then just cut all the extraneous hair

[20:44] and let everything else grow exactly to fit that helmet,

[20:47] that's a hockey haircut.

[20:48] And also his hair looks not so much

[20:51] like he's gotten like blonde highlights

[20:53] as like someone maybe just peed on his hair.

[20:56] So that's his hair.

[20:58] It's an acting choice.

[20:59] Yeah.

[21:00] It's an acting choice.

[21:01] This character is a golden shower fetish.

[21:03] It never comes up in the film, but they tell you,

[21:05] your character should always have a secret

[21:08] that you bring to set and nobody knows about you.

[21:11] And his is the golden shower thing.

[21:12] Anyway, Dev Patel has a new idea for a project.

[21:15] It's a totally fully functioning AI

[21:19] that does not need a human interface to work.

[21:21] He's very close to it.

[21:22] He's working on it.

[21:23] He's starting it.

[21:24] He's very close to it.

[21:25] He's working on it in his spare time at night

[21:27] with his butler robot, who seems pretty AI-ish, but.

[21:30] Yeah, I mean, it's basically like a crappy robot

[21:34] glued onto a Roomba.

[21:35] Yeah.

[21:36] And it operates like Pauly's butler robot.

[21:38] And I think we get like one-

[21:39] Like in Rocky IV.

[21:40] We get one laugh out of it.

[21:42] What would that be?

[21:43] Where he breaks a bunch of shit

[21:43] and it goes to like sweep it up.

[21:45] It goes mess, mess, and then goes to sweep it up.

[21:48] But he's working all night.

[21:49] He has one of those computer programs

[21:51] people in movies have, and maybe they do in real life,

[21:53] where you're building a program that's never existed before

[21:56] but you have another program that tells you

[21:58] when it works at 100% completion.

[22:01] So we can somehow, maybe you can do that in computers,

[22:03] that you can test a thing that has never existed before.

[22:06] But he brings this to Sigourney Weaver,

[22:08] and he says, this is a robot that could critique art,

[22:13] that can write poetry.

[22:14] And I see here that he is attempting

[22:16] to use the power of private industry

[22:18] to address a very big need in this world,

[22:21] which is the drastic shortage of art critics.

[22:24] There is such a call for more art critics

[22:27] that we need to start building them with machinery.

[22:29] Yeah, there are all those people out there

[22:30] unwilling to do the creative jobs.

[22:32] Yes.

[22:34] Well, without somebody to interpret the craziness

[22:37] of the art that we see in this movie,

[22:40] like that's the hole that he thinks needs to be filled.

[22:42] Because people see these crazy, I don't know,

[22:44] like nuclear silos with graffiti all over them.

[22:47] The place where the criminals live.

[22:48] And the layman has no idea what they're looking at.

[22:50] They're like, this is some kind of kaleidoscopes of colors

[22:52] that terrifies me.

[22:54] What's going on?

[22:54] There are, well, let's get to those characters.

[22:56] So these three people,

[22:58] two of whom are part of this rap group.

[23:01] And it's two guys and a girl, no pizza place though.

[23:03] Instead, like you're saying,

[23:04] they live in some kind of abandoned nuclear silo

[23:06] with all this graffiti in the back

[23:08] that reminds me of like the backgrounds

[23:10] of Jeff Darrow panels in like Hard Boiled,

[23:14] or like in Big Guy and Rusted Boy Robot,

[23:17] where they'll just be like a bunch of signs

[23:19] and things in the background.

[23:21] And I'm not quite sure what they mean.

[23:21] Well, it's like a four-year-old tried to recreate that.

[23:24] Yeah, okay.

[23:24] There's a certain naiveness to the artwork.

[23:26] It's like a four-year-old said,

[23:27] what would happen if Keith Haring illustrated

[23:29] all of Jeff Darrow's work?

[23:31] I think-

[23:32] I'm gonna throw it on a wall.

[23:33] I think two of the characters, the rapsters,

[23:36] sleep on a bed that like is propped up by-

[23:39] Velocirapsters.

[23:41] They sleep on a bed that's propped up

[23:43] with like multicolored building blocks for legs.

[23:47] It's very, it's like,

[23:48] it's a very quirky criminal hideout.

[23:52] Because these are quirky folks.

[23:54] Yeah, there's graffiti everywhere.

[23:56] They've got slogans like-

[23:57] It's a sort of-

[23:58] You know, fuck the world and stuff,

[23:59] all over the place.

[24:00] It's bright and crazy enough that like,

[24:01] if the Joker from the 1989 Batman movie,

[24:05] it was 1989 Batman movie,

[24:07] walked in with his gang,

[24:08] they'd be like, mm, this is a little too loud for us.

[24:11] Dial it down, everybody.

[24:12] You're calling too much attention to yourselves.

[24:15] And we literally walked into an art museum

[24:17] and just started painting all over the places.

[24:19] Unfortunately-

[24:20] If only we had a robot to tell us what to do.

[24:22] To tell us if we did a good job or not.

[24:24] But there's this group of criminals

[24:27] who are the gang who couldn't shoot straight.

[24:29] And they screw up a drug delivery somehow.

[24:32] They're like in a car chase,

[24:34] and they, just all the drugs fall over in their van,

[24:37] and so they're ruined.

[24:38] I wasn't quite sure what was happening there.

[24:40] And they piss off this Zangief looking boss,

[24:44] who is subtitled all the time,

[24:46] even though he's speaking English.

[24:48] And he says, you have seven days to get me 20 million,

[24:53] whatever the currency in South Africa is.

[24:56] Let's just call it Afro bucks.

[24:58] 20 million of those, or I'm gonna kill you.

[25:01] And they're like, ah, what are we gonna do?

[25:03] They decide they're gonna have a big heist.

[25:06] But in order to have the heist-

[25:07] This is all happening with a lot of shouting,

[25:09] and then all of a sudden robots show up.

[25:11] So it's kind of hard for me to follow what was going on.

[25:13] That's right, the meeting is interrupted.

[25:15] They were followed by robot police.

[25:18] There's a big fight.

[25:19] The robot police don't really seem to be that effective.

[25:21] Yeah, they don't arrest any of the principal people.

[25:24] No, they just managed to get beat up a lot.

[25:25] And one of them, number 22, gets blown all to shit.

[25:29] And it turns out that number 22

[25:31] has had a series of problems.

[25:33] So they're gonna crush him up into little robot cubes,

[25:35] maybe recycle him, turn him into a bunch of cans.

[25:37] Well, he's just an object, so that's okay.

[25:39] Exactly, he doesn't have a soul

[25:41] until Dev Patel kidnaps this robot,

[25:45] takes him home, and puts his AI program.

[25:48] Well, he's about to do that.

[25:49] Oh, he's about to do that.

[25:49] But then he gets kidnapped.

[25:50] He gets kidnapped.

[25:51] He actually gets kidnapped

[25:52] like 45 feet outside of the factory.

[25:54] Yeah, exactly.

[25:55] Here's one of the problems with this movie.

[25:57] This is the factory

[25:59] where all of the police robots are being built.

[26:02] And they have this elaborate control system

[26:04] that makes only the company can put software

[26:06] into the robots, and that has to be protected.

[26:08] And you get the sense that, though it's a startup,

[26:11] it's incredibly successful up until this point.

[26:13] Oh, yeah.

[26:14] Well, I mean, I think the company is not a startup,

[26:16] but the S.C.E.L.P. program is a startup.

[26:18] I think it's already an established munitions manufacturer.

[26:22] But anyway, they have this big facility.

[26:24] They're making robots.

[26:26] Robux?

[26:27] Robux.

[26:28] They're making Robux hand over fist.

[26:30] That's money that robots use

[26:32] to pay other robots for things.

[26:33] It's like Xbox bucks and whatnot.

[26:36] Yeah, exactly.

[26:36] The $1 Robux has a picture of their first Presobot,

[26:41] George Washington-Tron.

[26:43] Then, of course, there's the $5,

[26:44] which has Abraham Linck-Tron.

[26:46] We should just be stealing Futurama jokes at this point.

[26:49] Yeah, you're probably right.

[26:52] He decides he's gonna...

[26:53] So here's the problem.

[26:54] It's this big facility.

[26:55] They're making police robots.

[26:57] There's almost no security in this place.

[26:59] There's not even security cameras.

[27:00] There's not even that many employees.

[27:02] To the point where later in the movie,

[27:05] Hugh Jackman is authorized to use his giant ED-209 mech

[27:09] to blow up a bunch of people.

[27:10] He's just in a room by himself,

[27:11] sitting in his control chair with the lights off.

[27:15] It's like he has snuck away.

[27:19] One of the things about District 9 that was interesting

[27:21] is it felt like this was happening in a real world,

[27:23] a lived-in world, and it was populated by people.

[27:27] This movie has so few actual people in it.

[27:30] Yeah.

[27:32] It's one of those movies that starts off

[27:35] with a fake news report that explains

[27:37] everything that's going on,

[27:37] which I guess District 9 kind of did a little bit.

[27:40] But was it starting off as a news movie

[27:43] or a documentary-type thing?

[27:46] It feels like it's a documentary in District 9.

[27:50] And then they give up on that conceit pretty quickly.

[27:52] Kind of, yeah.

[27:53] They literally have Anderson Cooper

[27:55] talking about these robots.

[27:56] And the rapper characters call each other

[28:00] by their real names, and they're always wearing shirts

[28:03] with their names and their band's logo on it.

[28:05] And Anderson Cooper-

[28:06] So wait a minute.

[28:07] Are they rappers in this world, or are they gangsters?

[28:10] That's what I'm getting at.

[28:11] This movie takes place-

[28:12] They're gangster rappers.

[28:13] That's impossible.

[28:14] That doesn't exist, though.

[28:15] A new hybrid.

[28:18] Rappers who-

[28:19] That's right.

[28:19] I crafted the leg of a gangster onto a rapper.

[28:22] And now he wants to keep all of his samples

[28:26] inside of a violin case when he carries it around.

[28:30] It's crazy.

[28:31] But it takes place in the future,

[28:34] because Anderson Cooper says in 2016

[28:35] they introduced this program.

[28:36] So is this a world where their rap careers fell apart

[28:40] and they became crazy criminals?

[28:42] Oh, that makes sense.

[28:42] Or is that just the next logical step of evolution

[28:45] from South African rapper is criminal?

[28:49] All I'm saying is there's part of me

[28:51] that kind of likes that they call each other

[28:53] by their real names.

[28:54] There's something-

[28:55] And they wear T-shirts that I guess

[28:56] you can go and buy, probably.

[28:58] There's something, it's like when,

[29:00] a little bit kind of like-

[29:02] It's literally like The Wizard,

[29:04] where you could go out and buy the Power Glove

[29:07] after they showed it off in that movie, The Wizard.

[29:09] It's like The Wizard if Mario was a character in the movie.

[29:13] Okay.

[29:15] And was a real person in real life.

[29:18] Wait a minute, he's not a person in real life?

[29:20] What they're doing is a long-

[29:22] I hate to break it to you.

[29:22] There's no Mario Claus.

[29:24] So what would he, like he would show up

[29:26] and be a plumber at one of the hotels they stayed at?

[29:29] But then he'd have to jump,

[29:30] but then a big piranha plant would come out of the pipes

[29:32] and he'd be like, what did you kids eat?

[29:34] End of cameo.

[29:35] Then he'd just walk away.

[29:36] And then he'd go back to the camera and go,

[29:37] if you got any more trouble, call my brother Luigi.

[29:40] It's a me, Mario.

[29:41] And then he'd walk away.

[29:43] It's like, it's kind of a little bit like

[29:45] Neil Patrick Harris' appearance

[29:47] in the Harold and Kumar movies,

[29:49] where he's playing like a crazy version of himself.

[29:52] Like this is them playing a crazy version of themselves,

[29:54] but they already seem pretty crazy.

[29:56] But anyway, that's-

[29:57] I don't have any context to put it in.

[29:58] This could be the, like,

[29:59] the normal version of the movie.

[30:00] Version of themselves. I mean having seen some of their music videos

[30:03] They're pretty weird and crazy like music videos usually tell you an accurate portrayal of what the artist is like

[30:10] That's the promise an artist makes when they put themselves on camera is that this is an accurate rendition

[30:15] I mean I can only assume

[30:16] That Motley Crue like in the girls girls girls video are constantly going to strip clubs and just taking ladies home and Peter Gabriel is a

[30:23] stop-motion animation

[30:26] It is so weird that that is exactly what I was gonna go to

[30:31] Why were we both gonna go to that? I mean if I think when I think music videos

[30:35] It's kind of sad that sledgehammer is probably the first video. I think it's that one red hot chili peppers

[30:40] Probably live under a bridge somewhere

[30:42] Nicki Minaj lives in the forest with her with her other big butted associates

[30:46] Sure, it's trying to think about the Tom Petty and Michael Jackson has cat sighs. Yeah, I think about the Tom

[30:52] Petty don't come around here no more video where he's the Mad Hatter. Yeah, and I was like, I was like, oh, yeah

[30:57] And top buddies made the cake and there's like no, that's Alice in that. Yeah, that's a good catch. Yeah catch and

[31:04] Totally rains and fucks up. Axl Rose's wedding day. Yeah, the members of Genesis are spitting image puppets

[31:10] Mm-hmm. I mean like the rain doesn't seem to fuck it back as well as wedding day so much as the death of someone

[31:15] Say well, there's that but I thought she died from the rain. Does she get trampled? She much like much like jumps into the cake

[31:24] Yeah, that one dude, it's like I've been waiting to do this all day. It's raining a better jump into the cake

[31:29] It's like I gotta get out of the rain

[31:39] Making of the video for November, right? He went back in time

[31:46] Trying to warn us about November rain, he's trying to warn us that there's gonna be a an eight-minute music video for the future

[31:54] Is that your problem with it the length?

[31:59] I

[32:01] Remember that was on MTV. It was like, okay

[32:04] We're gonna play Jeremy and then we're gonna play November rain and then so much time has passed

[32:09] We're gonna play Jeremy. See I remember Jeremy is being a later song than November

[32:13] It was that those two and under the bridge and for a while it was uh, what one by you two

[32:19] Yeah, well, that was a little I don't remember that video at all. Well, there were multiple versions of it

[32:24] Mm-hmm. There's the one with the Buffalo just one

[32:28] Ironic movie, please. Anyway, so he's Dev Patel's gonna try to bring this robot home

[32:34] He fails to do it because he gets kidnapped because they have a robot in the family

[32:39] What a terrible movie that is

[32:41] Our listeners might not be familiar with the movie robot in the family. It's starring Joe Pantoliano and and what's-his-name from, you know, Gimli

[32:49] John Rhys John Rhys Davies John Rhys Davies

[32:53] And it's a funny thing was I was trying to say Jonathan Rhys-Meyers. That's a joke and I fucked it

[32:58] I was about to say that I knew it was wrong. So

[33:02] Because he's TV's Dracula. Mm-hmm point

[33:05] He's TV's Matt's point

[33:08] That is a movie that if you ever see it, it has the most irritating robot in film history match point

[33:13] No, yes that movie could have used a robot though. Yeah

[33:18] Even more irritating than a robot in a rotor. The robot and rotor is a delight

[33:21] I love the robot and rotor not the not the main robot police robot

[33:26] I mean the robot janitor who they're like, what where's the rotor program? He's like, oh gee, I don't know

[33:32] I

[33:34] Have said it before and I'll say it again

[33:36] what's great about the robot in the movie rotor is it feels like they had a part for like, um for like a

[33:42] Dopey janitor and a robot showed up at the audition and won the part

[33:46] It is the least robotic robot that you can imagine is oh, I don't know

[33:51] I'll look into it like he's such an incompetent robot much like chappy getting back to it

[33:57] The gangsters aside if they have their own we haven't even gone to

[34:00] Well, there's the thing about this movie

[34:03] It takes a long time to set things up and then suddenly it'll just burst forward to the next plot point

[34:08] very quickly

[34:09] so the gangsters want their own robot because they feel like they can use it to pull off a big heist to pay off this

[34:15] gangster and

[34:17] They kidnap the scientist who made the robot dead Patel so they can make they can give them they were trying to like shut

[34:22] Down all the robots so they could do well

[34:24] It was at first they

[34:26] Wanted the they theorized that there must be some remote control that turns off all the robots

[34:31] Since TVs have remote controls and their machines too. Once they see he has the robot though

[34:36] They're like make him work for us. He inputs the AI into it and chappy as they've named him

[34:41] I don't remember why has to learn how to be a living thing and learn speaking

[34:46] And so he starts off skittish as a newborn doe and then slowly becomes part of their family in that

[34:52] He literally calls the woman in the gang mommy and calls the crazy shirtless asshole

[34:57] Who's always causing trouble daddy and calls Dev Patel his his creator maker?

[35:02] What's our main is why does he associate that guy as being his daddy?

[35:07] Because they the even though that those two people are I guess a couple in real life

[35:12] IRL

[35:14] They don't at any point show other than like later on at once. Yeah, but at no point do they show affection now

[35:21] There's occasional remorse wanted to see a hardcore fucking I want to see some hardcore fucking

[35:31] Two weirdest people in the world having sex. How do we know that they're a couple if we don't see any penetration guess guess far

[35:39] No way. This was your problem with mad about you too, wasn't it?

[35:42] I just don't believe Paul Reiser and Helena is a couple cuz I've never seen them panic

[35:46] They can't be mad about each other because I haven't seen their faces

[35:51] Inserted into a vagina. I

[35:54] Mean, that's a definition of love, right?

[35:56] Dan you need to see a psychiatrist, but maybe like seven psychiatrists each crazier than the last

[36:05] Goofy psychiatrist islands

[36:09] Also, it's no white in the seven psychiatrists now

[36:11] They so they take control that for some reason the scientist puts a very little fight

[36:16] That they're just gonna own chappy and take care of him

[36:19] Yeah, at first they have a gun on him and then after a little while they're like, okay

[36:23] I guess you can go just come and go as you please and it does lead to later on

[36:28] He gets into a fight with the guy and the scientist refers to him as a shitty person

[36:31] Which I liked as a as an insult like that was yeah

[36:35] Chappy is that you're in it is your basic innocent robot. He's like your ET short-circuit

[36:40] I mean, he's not a robot be get it that kind of character. He's a Johnny five all over the place

[36:45] Except that he picks up the South African accent and picks up kind of like gangster speak

[36:51] And yeah wants to be cool. He never raps

[36:55] Unfortunately, yeah, because I wouldn't there's a granny in the movie that raps. I mean, come on

[37:02] With hip-hop attitude. Oh, he's a hippo bot. I think you want to workshop that phrase a little bit more

[37:09] It sounds like it is that is either a very hip hobo robot

[37:24] It's not an achievement to rhyme robot with Hobart it's a whole lot is a portmanteau which includes part of the word robot

[37:33] It incorporates hobo and robot Batman's villain the penguin with his army of penguins again, not a good

[37:40] Who's rapping about Batman?

[37:42] Like every like seal. I don't know every

[37:55] Will say the other day I

[37:59] Started singing kiss from a rose to Sammy and I was like, I remember a shitload of lyrics

[38:05] This song that I haven't heard since I was a kid

[38:09] But there was one summer at summer camp where they for some reason that song was always playing. So

[38:15] Cuz it's super romantic

[38:17] Why it would it was a weird thing was the songs I associate a summer camp are that?

[38:22] Regulators went by Nate Dogg and one sure and sweating bullets from Megadeth. Like those are the three songs

[38:28] I remember hearing a lot at summer camp, but anyway

[38:32] Besides this we're getting off track

[38:34] Shabby starts picking up all these mannerisms. They want to teach him how to help him on their heist

[38:39] But they kind of have to trick him into doing it by making him think it's the right thing because chappy promised his creator

[38:45] He wouldn't be involved in any crimes

[38:47] Meanwhile, what's a promise?

[38:54] I need you to promise something to me and chappy says what is a promise and devil does it's

[38:59] You have to promise me that you never commit crimes and that means you can't you know

[39:04] That you can never break that promise and chappy's like got it

[39:10] Like just use a cinnamon call the call it a vow

[39:21] Put all the cinnamon in your mouth and try to hold on to it. Okay now I promise you we won't have to do that again

[39:27] I'd be probably pretty good at seven challenge since he's a robot, but he has no mouth

[39:32] Yeah, he doesn't just gum up his ears

[39:34] Now Hugh Jack coming up gears has been I could have been the name of this movie

[39:38] Hugh Jackman has been watching all this in or trying to figure it out

[39:42] He's mad that all the funding's been taken from his moose project

[39:45] You're saying is that he sneaks up and watches chappy paint a picture

[39:49] That's exactly what I'm saying. He sneaks up and watches chappy and he looks like he has a look on his face like

[39:56] Painting robot. What the fuck he might as well

[40:00] Robbed his eyes and gone.

[40:02] Whoa, dumped out his liquor bottle.

[40:04] Never again.

[40:06] And then, so, but the dead daddy in the gang is Ninja

[40:11] is the name of both the character and the actor is irritated with Chappie.

[40:15] So he says, I'm going to toughen this chappy guy up.

[40:18] He releases Chappie into the wild, into a tough part of town.

[40:21] Chappie is immediately set upon by a gang of toughs

[40:24] and both beaten and set on fire.

[40:26] And Chappie is like the most innocent robot in the world.

[40:30] But everyone, when they see him, they think he's a police robot.

[40:32] So they start hitting him with crowbars and stuff.

[40:34] They throw a Molotov cocktail at him.

[40:35] It's really sad.

[40:36] And like it's it's the one the few times when this movie is successful

[40:41] and making you care for the characters is when Chappie is in such anguish

[40:45] that you would have to have no emotions to not be kind of disgusted by it.

[40:50] Yes. And Chappie is then set upon by Hugh Jackman.

[40:54] And did the movie earn that at least?

[40:55] Not at all. No, it was never.

[40:58] There was never a moment like in a.

[41:02] I'm trying to think of a movie where a character is really abused

[41:05] and you feel for them, but there's a sense of either catharsis

[41:08] or redemption or something in it, like breaking the waves.

[41:13] Maybe. Yeah.

[41:14] I mean, breaking the waves is an example where this character,

[41:17] terrible things happen, this character,

[41:18] but you feel like there's a sense of point and grace to it,

[41:21] even though I don't love that movie.

[41:24] But this in this one, it's just like, but a fun robot movie, whatever.

[41:28] OK, now this character is going to be crying on the ground

[41:30] while people throw a fire at him.

[41:32] And now Hugh Jackman is going to pull him into a van and cut his arm off

[41:36] while he whines and begs for mercy.

[41:37] Like, that's not fun. I don't like that.

[41:40] It's it's one of those tone clashes that could work some if they did it,

[41:44] if they like calibrated it differently, but did not.

[41:48] It seems a little sadistic from the filmmaker.

[41:51] Yes. In a way that is not like you say, it's not earned

[41:55] as opposed to like at the end of Wally, Wally gets the crap beaten out of him.

[42:00] Like he basically he essentially dies.

[42:02] And it's like, oh, no.

[42:03] But I wasn't like this is really making me uncomfortable

[42:06] and how much they're beating on Wally.

[42:08] Like if you know what it is, is I realize you're like, get him.

[42:11] I'm like, get that damn robot piece of shit.

[42:15] Things he can love beyond his class.

[42:21] Stupid robot.

[42:22] Can you do this?

[42:23] I'm just peeing all over the TV.

[42:27] Sit down. No, no, no.

[42:30] My family's going to learn about this someday.

[42:34] The it felt like it was at that point that I realized the movie,

[42:39] it was like the movie had set me to expect a certain level of anguish.

[42:44] And then the movie just dropped that level down into something much more intense

[42:48] that I was not ready for.

[42:49] And it was not exciting or it was affecting in a bad way.

[42:53] But and there's a couple of moments like that.

[42:54] So anyway, like it and it's not helpful.

[42:58] The fact that Chappie makes his way home and they put fix his arm almost instantly.

[43:02] But Hugh Jackman steals the control chip from Chappie.

[43:06] This doesn't seem to really do anything.

[43:07] And I'm not sure how it what it had to do with anything else.

[43:09] He needed it for the moose, maybe.

[43:11] That's it's that it's that chip he used to deactivate all the other scouts.

[43:16] That's right. It's like guard key.

[43:18] So this is when.

[43:19] So now the movie has jumped forward pretty quickly to Chappie is on the run.

[43:24] It takes a very long time of like Chappie's going to learn how to use weapons.

[43:28] He's going to learn how to walk like a gangster.

[43:30] Hugh Jackman is going to do I don't know what.

[43:32] And then suddenly Hugh Jackman goes like, all right.

[43:35] No, he's like, there has to be bigger crime.

[43:38] The police literally say to to him earlier on, like that

[43:41] crime would have to be way worse, way worse for them to bring in the moose.

[43:45] And so he's like, I guess I'll make crime worse.

[43:47] So use it. That's right.

[43:48] He uses that chip to shut down all the scout robots.

[43:51] A chip that Dev Patel, the maker left in Chappie's head for

[43:57] apparently no reason other than I mean, because he didn't need it to exist.

[44:01] No, Chappie.

[44:02] We should mention also Chappie has a five day battery.

[44:04] After five days, his battery is going to break and die.

[44:07] So he's going to die.

[44:09] The the the concept of changing his battery never really comes up.

[44:13] Yeah. But also even like let's remove

[44:16] like that only makes sense as a premise for the movie.

[44:21] Yeah. Like that only makes sense.

[44:22] It's like a ticking clock for the for the movie.

[44:25] Like, why would you make any robot five day better?

[44:28] Or like take out his hard drive and put it into another robot? Yeah.

[44:32] Well, and they tell you can't because he has consciousness.

[44:35] Yeah. Dev Patel is like, yeah, we can't do that because consciousness.

[44:39] We don't know what that is.

[44:40] And like, well, maybe we don't know what that is in humans.

[44:43] But in a robot, we can just transfer all the fucking

[44:45] information.

[44:46] Spoiler alert.

[44:47] Both Dev Patel and Chappie get their minds switched to other robots.

[44:50] So Dev Patel was just wrong.

[44:52] Yeah. But so Hugh Jackman turns off all the robots.

[44:55] Instant crime wave.

[44:57] Then we forget about that.

[44:58] Suddenly Johannesburg is in chaos.

[45:01] We kind of forget about that because it's time to go back to Chappie.

[45:04] The gangster who wants his money shows up.

[45:06] Dev Patel shows up at the hideout of the rap group.

[45:10] And there's a good it's a whole lot of stuff's about to go down.

[45:14] And then suddenly Sigourney Weaver is told by Hugh Jackman,

[45:17] there's some Chappie on the loose.

[45:18] He was on TV scene helping.

[45:21] Fucking Chappie.

[45:22] Public enemy number Chappie is out there.

[45:25] This is a code Chappie.

[45:26] I repeat, code Chappie.

[45:27] A.P.C. That's all points Chappie.

[45:30] Chappie helped these got the gangsters with a heist.

[45:33] He was caught on TV helping them steal money.

[45:35] And he was just throwing ninja stars into into cops legs.

[45:40] And this was another moment where suddenly it was like,

[45:42] uh, so Chappie is just like earlier.

[45:44] There's a scene where Chappie is has been tricked into helping them steal cars.

[45:48] And he's just scaring rich people and stealing their cars.

[45:51] But here he's literally throwing knives into people's bodies.

[45:55] Like at least he's throwing knives with the under the assumption

[45:58] that he's putting people to sleep.

[45:59] Yeah, they told him this helps people sleep.

[46:02] But even the sequence, which leads to the question, how dumb is this robot?

[46:09] He's hella stupid.

[46:10] He has access to the Internet at this point, right?

[46:12] He can just figure that out.

[46:13] He doesn't till later.

[46:14] OK, but the sequence where he's like stealing cars from people,

[46:19] it's because it is so close to the sequence where he's like a little kid

[46:24] being beat up by people.

[46:25] It makes me feel like this little kid is being tricked into hurting people.

[46:29] But it's kind of played for laughs.

[46:30] It's supposed to be a funny scene.

[46:32] But yeah, it comes off as this.

[46:34] This is more abuse of Chappie.

[46:36] Yeah, he's being abused and it's not really funny.

[46:39] So it's. Yeah, it's another scene that makes you uncomfortable.

[46:44] They like they did a good enough.

[46:45] They did a good job of pushing our buttons in terms of like.

[46:48] That's what that's what art's all about, Elliot.

[46:49] And robots. Oh, wait, what?

[46:52] Push their buttons. OK.

[46:53] And art's also about pushing buttons, Dan.

[46:55] And art's about robots.

[46:56] And by that, I mean the artist who paints those sexy robots.

[47:00] Oh, his name is Art.

[47:02] So what? Soriyama?

[47:04] Art robot.

[47:06] I'm thinking I think I think I think of a different guy.

[47:08] The guy from who did the penthouse pictures where you'd be flipping

[47:11] through a penthouse and all of a sudden have like a weird Japanese robot having sex.

[47:16] No, that's not the one.

[47:17] They're going to say, you have a weird erection.

[47:20] And I'm like, what am I going to do with this?

[47:23] Mom, mom.

[47:24] No, no, young Stuart.

[47:26] Hit it with a rolling bin.

[47:28] Like Ben Kenobi.

[47:32] I'll help you with that, Stuart.

[47:35] OK, why not?

[47:36] Let me give this droid an oil bath.

[47:38] I'll help you as I helped your father.

[47:42] Ben Kenobi is just an old perv who lives in a cave.

[47:44] Sure.

[47:46] That's why.

[47:49] That's why Anakin turned to the dark side.

[47:52] I mean, it's sad.

[47:53] I don't know if that's the case.

[47:54] Sad stuff.

[47:55] If anything.

[47:57] I mean, it's because he had the high ground, right?

[48:00] Yeah.

[48:00] So he cut his legs off.

[48:03] I mean, I'd go evil if some dude just chopped my legs off, Dan.

[48:07] I mean, he was kind of asking for it.

[48:08] They were in a lightsaber fight and there was lava all around.

[48:11] There's lava everywhere.

[48:12] Yeah. And I don't mean lava soap.

[48:14] I mean, like hot lava.

[48:16] Lava.

[48:18] Yeah.

[48:19] Not cold lava. We can just walk.

[48:20] So of course, you're going to try and flip over a guy

[48:22] and then he cuts his legs off.

[48:24] That shit's bonkers.

[48:27] They just leaves him to fucking die there.

[48:29] Yes. You're all roasted.

[48:30] Speaking of people getting cut in half.

[48:32] That happened to Chappie.

[48:33] We were all really surprised.

[48:34] So back to Chappie.

[48:36] Chappie's in trouble.

[48:37] Sigourney Weaver gives Hugh Jackman the go

[48:39] permission to use the moose to track Chappie down and destroy him.

[48:43] He's on TV making the company look bad, stealing money for rap gangsters.

[48:47] And so they all show up at one place.

[48:49] Dev Patel, the rap gangsters, because it's their house.

[48:52] Chappie and the big Zangief gangster guy.

[48:56] And then the moose comes along and he's killing everybody.

[48:59] But mainly his first casualty comes from there's a third member of the gang

[49:04] named America, who he's shooting a gun at this huge mech.

[49:09] Of course, it's going to do no good.

[49:10] The mech steps on his body and blood spurting out of his mouth.

[49:13] And then it uses big crab pincer hand just to cut him in half

[49:17] and pull the top of his body off.

[49:18] And then throw it against the wall, which at this point we're all cracking up.

[49:22] We were like, that was the move.

[49:23] That was the moment where it felt like the movie hit its pitch.

[49:26] That one moment where a character we've seen through the whole movie

[49:29] has just been murdered.

[49:31] But it was like pretty funny and also pretty gruesome.

[49:34] If the movie had been at that level, I feel like it would have been

[49:37] this would have been a successful movie.

[49:39] We were all sort of surprised by it, too, though, because it did

[49:41] like the movie up until that point did have that

[49:44] like slightly grittier short circuit feel like it.

[49:48] Hold on, slightly grittier short?

[49:50] You mean grittier than a grittier version of short circuit?

[49:52] Yeah. You don't mean it had the grit of short circuit?

[49:56] It didn't have the kitchen sink realism?

[49:58] No, I was saying.

[50:00] It was a really caught the mean streets of a big city like that like that classic film short circuit to my point

[50:06] It was a marginally grittier version of short circuit

[50:09] And then all of a sudden we got super violent and like really violent explosions everywhere, and there's a big fight scene

[50:16] Yeah

[50:17] Well, that's something that like that district 9 did kind of well is when they when they had violence happen

[50:22] It was like horrible and super shocking like a lightning bolt hitting dudes and them just exploding like bags of blood. Yeah

[50:29] And even in district 9 I had an issue at the end where he goes into berserker mode and starts just like killing people

[50:36] But they're bad guys. They're bad guys, but it's still

[50:40] But uh every a bunch of people get killed

[50:44] Short circuits mommy gets shot and killed Dev Patel gets shot, and he's bleeding out ninja who has

[50:53] established himself as a major league asshole gets shot through the leg, but it's fine and

[50:57] So like the one the least likable member of the group is the one who continues and survives

[51:02] Chappie fights the ed209 and blows it up

[51:06] Hugh Jackman, I guess diplomatic

[51:08] Immunity revoked or whatever. Yeah, and

[51:11] Chappie Chappie beats the shit out of Hugh Jackman Chappie and Dev Patel go back to the factory because Chappie is gonna transfer

[51:18] Dev Patel's mind in the before all this Chappie has figured out how the internet works

[51:24] Consciousness is using a neural neural helmet and a pile of PlayStation 4's so

[51:29] He's gonna transfer he beats the shit out of Hugh Jackman and that calling him a bad man

[51:34] Once again in this factory where there's no security

[51:37] There's no secure a robot just walks in with Dev Patel bleeding Hugh Jackman sees them as like whoa

[51:42] You guys stop and the robot just beats them up in front of a cube farm

[51:46] I just mean cubicles and just destroying the office. No security ever appears at any moment later

[51:53] He takes Dev Patel to this to the place where the neural helmet is and now the security shows up

[51:59] But but Chappie's already locked the door

[52:00] He transfers Dev Patel's minds to a robot body and then Dev Patel transfers Chappie's mind to all the robots in the network

[52:08] I guess and set the nearest robot. I thought he sent to all of them multiple chap. He was just searching the

[52:15] Yeah, he's just searching for

[52:17] And then we find out that uh, the the kindly mother figure had already uploaded her consciousness and

[52:23] the movie ends with Chappie using the

[52:27] Factory to build like an upgraded version of the robot and it looks like that robot Bjork from that one Bjork video

[52:34] we're like like this Fedka robot Fedka vodka robot and it but it's got it's like

[52:39] Really creepy looking but it's also like like why does this?

[52:43] Hold on no one notices that like in this factory all of a sudden

[52:47] There's this other robot like they what why does the one like the middle of the night?

[52:50] I don't know. Nobody notices anything in this one tree. I was missing me like pretty

[52:57] Yeah, we're the ugly female robots, you know like Rosie from the Jetsons

[53:02] Wait, you don't think she's pretty. Uh

[53:04] Not my type. You know, she's a

[53:07] You know, she's a lovely

[53:10] Sturdy dude cylinders. You're a pretty and sturdy go hand-in-hand

[53:17] The

[53:19] Yeah, there's one of the things that nobody notices anything. No, but you know

[53:23] Unless a character is needed for the for a scene

[53:26] They're just they might as well be Sims extras. Like they're just wandering around in the background, you know

[53:32] Was this was this movie like was this movie rushed to production? What's going on? I get

[53:39] Going on. I don't know. That's welcome to what's going on

[53:45] What's going on our Marvin Gaye podcast

[53:49] What is going on brother tell me

[53:53] Just us talking about like well, I've been working a lot

[53:59] Sort of trying to get this bar open a little chilly in that time of year when oh, wow, very specific

[54:05] It's not yet cold in a full coat wearing a fleece

[54:08] I've got running socks on cuz I ran out of full-length socks. Oh man laundry day. Am I right?

[54:14] Tell me about it. Welcome to Laundro our laundry day podcast

[54:18] Laundro Calrissian

[54:23] Characters chain of laundries

[54:30] No one wants the young nuts touching their clothes no, the young knots are gross. I think we've discussed before they have in their name

[54:38] Lobot however, I want to make him fold all my clothes cuz they'll do it super fast like Bishop playing mumbly peg and aliens

[54:47] Bishop the robot and not Bishop from expert. No and not like Bishop from the Catholic Church

[54:56] Bishop from my chessboard

[55:00] He doesn't have any hands at all, you know, I'm just kind of like a style no representation or side-to-side movement options

[55:07] You can only fold diagonally. Yeah, that doesn't help me with my pants. Everything's got diagonal wrinkles now

[55:13] This is Bishop. This is not how you crease pants. I wanted a nice look like crinkle fries

[55:21] Pants look like a like a napkin folded in a fancy

[55:25] Restaurant and I hate fancy restaurants Bishop from my chessboard

[55:30] That's why you only I only take you to Carl's jr

[55:33] I

[55:36] Should have had rook do this

[55:38] He moves in straight lines. This is even worse than when I had night fold my stuff. Everything was L-shaped

[55:45] I forgot to mention guys that Carl's jr. Is our sponsor

[55:49] I don't I think even Carl's jr. Would admit they're not fancy

[55:53] But they have beautiful babes eating greasy burgers in their commercials

[55:56] It's not like all this time Carl's jr. Carl has been under the impression that he and it's a fine dining

[56:02] Establishment Carl is like, how come we still don't have any Michelin stars jr

[56:08] Jr. What have you done with my restaurant? Please? Mr. Burger lives in Florida. Call me Carl jr

[56:14] now so chappy, it's a whole mix of robot fighting and robot learning how to talk and being cute and

[56:22] South African patois and weirdos walking around

[56:26] Successful you either judge it makes you feel if it makes you feel any better Elliot

[56:30] There is that scene where they go to a like a dog fight and we get to see a dead dog lying on the ground

[56:35] We do get to see chappy poke the corpse of a dead dog and that's how we learn that things die

[56:40] But even that is like like when the short circuit jumped on that grasshopper. Well one his name is Johnny five

[56:45] But yeah, exactly. It's like even that was just a gritty gritty version of that scene. Mm-hmm. His name's not family matters

[56:52] The

[56:54] Guy's name isn't Jurassic Park. It's dr. Ellie Alan Grant

[57:00] You want to call him? Dr. Elliot grant?

[57:03] Yourself in the mirror

[57:09] Cuz that's what I wanted to that's what you had to do with that fedora you're like not Indiana Jones

[57:15] I'm never gonna be able to pull off Indiana Jones

[57:17] The best I can do is it is a paleontologist it gets wrapped up in an adventure by accident

[57:24] So let's go to final judgments whether this is a good bad movie a bad bad movie or movie kind of like movie of the

[57:30] Year, what do you what do you say Stewart?

[57:33] Yeah, best movie I've ever seen

[57:38] Chappy is I can't say crappy cuz that's bad. Is there a crappy happy?

[57:45] Happen makes me happy. Yeah. No, I'm chappy is not very good. I

[57:50] Had kind of low expectations going in because of the reviews

[57:54] And because Elysium was not very good and it seems like Neil Blomkamp is one of those directors that is just gonna keep giving us

[58:00] diminishing returns

[58:02] Hopefully not. Maybe he'll rediscover himself

[58:06] My man Neil Blomkamp

[58:09] That's all I'm gonna say

[58:11] This this movie is super weird

[58:14] Like I don't think that we really like got her across just how the tone is wrong

[58:20] Like weird like a David Lynch movie

[58:22] you know what this feels like to me is it feels like a

[58:26] Terry Gilliam or what's the name of the guy who directed Snowpiercer? It feels like

[58:33] I don't yes, was it Mon Juneau did Snowpiercer? No way. No, I think you're being racist by crediting him

[58:40] Wait, I mean, I think it's more sure. I don't know cuz Snowpiercer's the guy who did the good the bad and the weird, right?

[58:46] That's not Bong Joon-ho. Bong Joon-ho did the host and mother and I'm gonna look it up

[58:51] But it because I can't remember his name

[58:52] but it feels like a movie one of those guys would have aced because they would have made it manic and bright and this is

[59:00] Gritty or like it looks ugly like it does it it's it and it doesn't there's no energy to it. It doesn't move quickly

[59:06] I mean we might be jaded because we've seen a lot of Bong Joon-ho is wrong. We've seen a lot of man. Yeah

[59:14] You're right, I thought it was the guy who did the good the bad and the weird but it wasn't as Bong Joon-ho did Snowpiercer

[59:19] That's why I saw that cuz they both had trains in them

[59:21] Yeah, because I thought one train movie the guy loves trains. Yeah, the same guy made the great train robbery

[59:29] Made a made a take a Pelham one, two, three. He made a

[59:33] Train leaving a station under siege dark territory. Oh, yeah and

[59:39] Trains the sequel to planes the sequel to cars that's out already. It doesn't exist

[59:43] So the thing is that if you're gonna show a sequence where I think is my favorite Bong Joon-ho movie by far

[59:51] You like it more than the host I didn't love the host I like memories of murder a lot memories of murders great

[59:57] Yeah, I think Snowpiercer is tied with memories of murder from the host

[1:00:00] So I thought it was okay, I was disappointed by it.

[1:00:02] It like wasn't the movie I wanted it to be.

[1:00:04] It was another one, that's one where the-

[1:00:06] Did your expectations build up too much?

[1:00:07] A little bit. Okay.

[1:00:08] But also it's one where the tones clashed

[1:00:10] a little bit for me.

[1:00:12] Rather than being a riotous clash of tones,

[1:00:14] it was an awkward clash of tones.

[1:00:17] Clash of the tonins.

[1:00:18] So part of the movie is that it, because-

[1:00:22] Dan, I apologize for calling you racist.

[1:00:24] If you're gonna have a movie where you have like a-

[1:00:27] Because it was Kim Jee-Woon

[1:00:28] who directed The Good, The Bad, and The Weird.

[1:00:30] If you're gonna have a baby robot who's like

[1:00:32] kind of innocent and learning how to do things,

[1:00:36] we've seen a lot of movies, man.

[1:00:38] I've already seen that like a zillion times over.

[1:00:40] Yeah.

[1:00:40] You're gonna have to be good at doing it.

[1:00:42] Well, but what I was gonna say is like,

[1:00:45] in a way, the fact the tones are all wrong in this movie,

[1:00:49] like the fact that everything that's happening

[1:00:52] is just like 12 degrees off of being successful

[1:00:57] is kind of what makes me enjoy the movie.

[1:01:01] I feel like this is mostly a bad, bad movie,

[1:01:03] but it's getting really close to a movie

[1:01:05] I kind of enjoyed,

[1:01:06] because it's just wrong in a way that's appealing.

[1:01:12] You look at it with bafflement,

[1:01:15] but not in like a way that you're laughing at it,

[1:01:17] in a way that just like, wow, this is like weird

[1:01:21] in a way that I really wish I could enjoy it.

[1:01:23] And sometimes you do,

[1:01:24] as when someone gets cut by a big-

[1:01:26] That was great.

[1:01:27] on a robot.

[1:01:29] If it had been 90 minutes of that.

[1:01:32] I definitely felt like there were scenes

[1:01:33] where I was like, I thought I would enjoy this more

[1:01:35] if you described it to me.

[1:01:36] And Hugh Jackman's performance is at least super fun.

[1:01:39] Hugh Jackman is really good in this,

[1:01:41] because he's like, he goes all out with it.

[1:01:43] Dev Patel is kind of-

[1:01:44] And he goes all out in like being unappealing.

[1:01:46] He goes all out.

[1:01:47] Yes.

[1:01:48] And he's totally willing to drain himself

[1:01:51] of all of his natural charisma, which he has a ton of.

[1:01:54] He's not even trying to be a charismatic villain.

[1:01:55] He's being a totally uncharismatic villain.

[1:01:58] And I liked him more because of that.

[1:01:59] Yeah.

[1:02:00] And Sigourney Weaver is kind of wasted.

[1:02:01] She doesn't really leave her office for the entire movie.

[1:02:04] Well, it feels like everything is-

[1:02:05] Which makes me think that maybe they just had like two days

[1:02:07] to shoot with her.

[1:02:07] It feels like everything is super shorthand.

[1:02:10] And like Hugh Jackman actually brought something

[1:02:13] to the shoot, whereas everybody else didn't bring anything.

[1:02:17] I would imagine, you know, Charlton Copley,

[1:02:19] with probably giving kind of boring direction,

[1:02:23] did a pretty good job, I'd imagine,

[1:02:24] in his like stop motion suit.

[1:02:28] No, I mean, the effects are really good.

[1:02:29] The robot acting is good.

[1:02:33] And what do you think?

[1:02:33] Did you like the effects?

[1:02:34] They hired a robot to play that part.

[1:02:35] The effects were not bad.

[1:02:37] That wasn't a human in Mecha Face.

[1:02:39] That was a real robot.

[1:02:40] There's so many robot actors who are out of work

[1:02:42] while humans take those parts.

[1:02:46] Like Power's booth.

[1:02:50] In the C-3PO costume.

[1:02:52] Yep.

[1:02:53] Power droid.

[1:02:56] No, I want to imagine Power's booth in the ADR booth,

[1:02:59] just gunk, gunk.

[1:03:01] Power's, it still sounds a little too much

[1:03:03] like your normal character.

[1:03:05] Can you make it more a gunk droid?

[1:03:06] Gunk.

[1:03:08] It's too menacing.

[1:03:09] It's too menacing, sir.

[1:03:10] You sound too much like an evil gambler.

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[1:04:01] Briefly, before we move on to letters,

[1:04:04] I want to say I found the note

[1:04:07] from the gentleman who sent that.

[1:04:11] Evolver?

[1:04:12] Evolver, yeah, the video game.

[1:04:13] Evolve, yeah, thanks.

[1:04:14] Or Evolve.

[1:04:15] Oh yeah, Evolver is a movie about a robot

[1:04:16] that goes crazy and starts shooting people.

[1:04:18] And so I want to thank him by name.

[1:04:19] Thank you, Brock, last name withheld.

[1:04:21] Oh, thanks, Brock.

[1:04:22] I've been playing a bunch.

[1:04:23] It's super fun.

[1:04:25] But I'm sorry that I didn't have that at the time.

[1:04:29] But hopefully better late than never.

[1:04:32] Nope.

[1:04:34] Never would have been better.

[1:04:36] So what do we do now, Dan?

[1:04:38] What part of the podcast is this?

[1:04:40] This is the part of the podcast where we-

[1:04:42] Where we hurry up and do some letters.

[1:04:44] Do some letters from listeners.

[1:04:47] Listeners sent us letters.

[1:04:50] Now we're gonna read them as Stuart goes to get another beer.

[1:04:54] Killing time right now as Stuart gets that beer.

[1:04:58] So gather round here and listen and hear

[1:05:01] to what I'm saying as Stuart goes in.

[1:05:04] He's opening up that beer.

[1:05:07] And now the song is done.

[1:05:09] Seamless.

[1:05:13] That's a weird noise.

[1:05:15] That was not a pleasant drinking noise.

[1:05:18] So this first-

[1:05:19] Like, that's the sound I would expect

[1:05:21] if you were drinking some kind of alien beer

[1:05:23] that comes in a living gelatinous sack.

[1:05:25] And you have to bite the skin

[1:05:27] and then suck the blood out, and the blood is beer.

[1:05:29] That's the sound.

[1:05:30] It's delicious, Morty.

[1:05:31] That's the sound it would make.

[1:05:32] That's my quick impression from Rick and Morty.

[1:05:36] So this first letter of the night

[1:05:40] is from Mitra, last name withheld.

[1:05:42] Dear Flophouse.

[1:05:43] Hey there.

[1:05:44] I wouldn't presume to friend any of you on Facebook,

[1:05:47] but Dan, could I friend your brother, John?

[1:05:50] Here are my connections to the Flophouse,

[1:05:53] and by extension, John.

[1:05:55] Number one, my mother's best friend's daughter

[1:05:58] wrote a book that's being turned into a miniseries

[1:06:00] starring Anne Hathaway.

[1:06:02] Number two, I share one friend with John McCoy,

[1:06:06] someone I don't know and who has 3,927 friends, but still.

[1:06:11] Wow, that's really popular.

[1:06:12] Yeah.

[1:06:13] Must be like Ronald McDonald or Shaquille O'Neal or somebody.

[1:06:17] It's Garfield.

[1:06:19] He hates Mondays, but he loves France.

[1:06:21] Number three, I share one friend with Elliot.

[1:06:24] Shout out to Bob Sikoriak.

[1:06:26] Oh, okay.

[1:06:27] Bob Sikoriak's great.

[1:06:28] Number four, I went to high school with John Hodgman.

[1:06:30] Okay, admittedly, I have no memory of him,

[1:06:32] but I'm friends with friends of his.

[1:06:34] My friend Phaedra says she remembers John

[1:06:36] because he carried his books to school in a briefcase.

[1:06:38] That sounds like John Hodgman.

[1:06:40] Number five, if I had a ding-dong, I would tear it off.

[1:06:45] Number six.

[1:06:45] Think about that before you make any promises.

[1:06:49] Number six, how can a clam cram in a clean cream can?

[1:06:54] I just wanted to hear Dan say that.

[1:06:57] How long were you fucking practicing that, Dan?

[1:07:00] I can talk right if I want to.

[1:07:02] So you just didn't want to all this time?

[1:07:03] Yeah, I'm just lazy.

[1:07:05] Please, I need more interesting friends.

[1:07:07] I can only look at so many baby photos,

[1:07:09] so if John and his wife have a baby, then never mind.

[1:07:11] I'm good.

[1:07:12] Best, Mitra.

[1:07:13] Well, you know, they don't.

[1:07:14] They've got grown-up children at this point.

[1:07:18] The children are older than they are.

[1:07:20] Look, look, man, I can't control who John friends.

[1:07:24] That's up to him.

[1:07:26] I mean, I say go for it.

[1:07:28] You know what he gotta lose?

[1:07:29] You can't fear rejection in this world.

[1:07:34] Just put that friend request right out there.

[1:07:35] Yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta live your life

[1:07:37] for another quarter mile at the time.

[1:07:39] You know what?

[1:07:40] If you were gonna die tomorrow,

[1:07:42] would you want to have regretted never asking

[1:07:44] John McCoy to be your friend on Facebook?

[1:07:47] I don't think so.

[1:07:48] Yeah, so I hope that we've given you

[1:07:50] the confidence you need to live your life.

[1:07:53] Free from fear.

[1:07:55] That's one of the four freedoms.

[1:07:58] No fear, T-shirts, Bad Boys Club, et cetera.

[1:08:01] I like, yeah, FDR was right.

[1:08:01] If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch.

[1:08:04] Life's a beach.

[1:08:06] FDR gave his four freedom speech.

[1:08:08] He was wearing a no fear T-shirt.

[1:08:13] This is from, this next one's from.

[1:08:15] We have nothing to fear.

[1:08:16] This is his inauguration, not four freedoms.

[1:08:19] We have nothing to fear but fear itself.

[1:08:21] Check out my shirt.

[1:08:23] That's what I want from everybody.

[1:08:25] No, oh, I wore my Mossimo shirt today.

[1:08:27] Oh, damn it.

[1:08:27] Well, let me get my no fear shirt.

[1:08:29] Hold on.

[1:08:30] This next one is from Wyatt Notsonak,

[1:08:35] last name with L.

[1:08:36] So Wyatt Earp?

[1:08:37] There's the only other one.

[1:08:39] The only other one is Wyatt from Weird Science

[1:08:41] and he's a fictional character.

[1:08:43] So it has to be Wyatt Earp,

[1:08:44] the man who made Tombstone live again.

[1:08:46] He's got the stare.

[1:08:48] My friend took me to a birthday party

[1:08:50] for a stranger the other day.

[1:08:52] And when I met the birthday boy.

[1:08:53] Is this a sex story?

[1:08:55] When I met the birthday boy, I said to the.

[1:08:57] Sounds like it.

[1:08:59] I said to the crowd that he looked like Stuart Wellington.

[1:09:03] This comment was met with silence and funny looks.

[1:09:06] What's the big idea, Stuart?

[1:09:07] I trusted you and you made me look like a fool.

[1:09:10] So.

[1:09:11] Yeah, I'm really sorry that people didn't know

[1:09:13] who I am or what I look like.

[1:09:16] I've been trying to spread the word and the face.

[1:09:22] I mean.

[1:09:23] We need a Stuart spread and face well with him.

[1:09:26] Face spreader.

[1:09:27] We've had all those Shepard Fairey posters

[1:09:29] of Stuart's face plastered all over.

[1:09:31] They just say dude underneath.

[1:09:33] Yeah, but they don't seem to catch it on.

[1:09:36] Now you're just trying to get somebody

[1:09:37] to make a Photoshop up a little thing.

[1:09:39] They've got to now.

[1:09:40] Yeah, it's gotta be done.

[1:09:41] Maybe Shepard Fairey will.

[1:09:43] That's right.

[1:09:44] We know you're listening, Shepard.

[1:09:48] What if he was a fairy shepherd?

[1:09:50] And there was a flock of little pixies

[1:09:51] and he just kept them safe.

[1:09:53] You missed when we watched Strange Magic.

[1:09:55] I think there is a character like that.

[1:09:57] Really?

[1:09:58] Yeah.

[1:09:58] Oh, okay.

[1:09:59] Ask Jordan Morris.

[1:10:00] I don't remember, I was too drunk.

[1:10:03] This letter is from Leanne, last name with L.

[1:10:05] Rhymes.

[1:10:07] Dear my darling peaches, it's recently

[1:10:10] brought to my attention that other podcasts have

[1:10:14] towns and nations, while your fan base is

[1:10:17] confined to a single house.

[1:10:20] In fact, I'm not even sure if we're allowed into the flop

[1:10:22] house, or if it's strictly.

[1:10:26] You can look in through the windows.

[1:10:28] Or if it's a strictly original peach residence.

[1:10:31] It's like a tent city that lives outside.

[1:10:33] Yeah, it's like Burning Man.

[1:10:35] My question is thus, what does the flop house actually

[1:10:39] look like?

[1:10:40] Is it a decrepit boarding home, as the pun suggests,

[1:10:43] or stately a manor?

[1:10:44] Do you have to pass through a mirror world to enter?

[1:10:47] Where's the evidence dungeon located?

[1:10:49] Are only boys allowed?

[1:10:50] Well, probably below ground.

[1:10:53] Or in the belfry.

[1:10:54] Are only boys allowed?

[1:10:55] Paint me a word picture.

[1:10:57] Love, Leanne, last name withheld.

[1:11:00] Well, thank you for making a lot of references to things

[1:11:02] we've said in the past, Leanne.

[1:11:05] Dan, since you are the president of HouseCat Productions.

[1:11:09] Incorporated.

[1:11:10] You probably have the best idea of what

[1:11:13] the flop house looks like.

[1:11:15] Well, it's a gingerbread house.

[1:11:18] I already regret that you gave him first lead on this story.

[1:11:22] I'm going to take this ball back and pass it to Elliot.

[1:11:25] Bounce fast.

[1:11:25] No, no, what else has happened to this gingerbread house

[1:11:28] that we apparently go to all the time?

[1:11:30] A few bounce pass it back to Dan, OK, I guess.

[1:11:32] I'm curious, and I want to give him a chance

[1:11:34] to redeem himself.

[1:11:34] That's how we lure listeners in.

[1:11:36] See, they come over and they want to stick the gumdrops

[1:11:40] in their ear holes.

[1:11:41] I'm going to take that ball back.

[1:11:43] You know what, I'm going to call time out.

[1:11:44] Ref, can I call time out?

[1:11:46] I'm just going to take this ball back.

[1:11:48] OK, yeah, that's not what I imagined.

[1:11:51] OK, what do you got?

[1:11:52] It looks like the White House, but it's like five times bigger.

[1:11:55] Every room is made of TVs.

[1:11:58] So it's made for giants, or it's just got five times many rooms?

[1:12:01] Both.

[1:12:03] Five times as many rooms, and the rooms are five times as big.

[1:12:06] We need to travel around on little go-karts,

[1:12:08] because it's so big.

[1:12:09] Go-gurts?

[1:12:10] A little go-gurt.

[1:12:12] We use a slip and slide lubricated up with go-gurt,

[1:12:15] and that's how we slide from room to room.

[1:12:20] And we have a pet chimp.

[1:12:21] Oh, man, our water bills are so high for washing all

[1:12:25] that gross shit off.

[1:12:29] OK, well, that's nice.

[1:12:30] I'm sure Dan's room is lovingly appointed

[1:12:33] with fancy stuff and things.

[1:12:36] Oh, yeah.

[1:12:36] Everybody's fancy stuff and things.

[1:12:38] Oh, it doesn't get fancy.

[1:12:40] All of my favorites, fancy stuff and things.

[1:12:41] I was making it ambiguous so you could flesh it out.

[1:12:44] You really know Dan well.

[1:12:45] His love of both stuff and things.

[1:12:49] All the years spent spending time with him have been spent on it.

[1:12:52] If I'm not coveting fancy stuff, I'm looking at fancy things.

[1:13:00] Elliot's room is, of course, the library.

[1:13:02] Yes, of course.

[1:13:03] You've got your floor-to-ceiling bookshelves,

[1:13:05] and scrolling ladders.

[1:13:07] Cobwebs.

[1:13:09] Oh, so it's a haunted library?

[1:13:11] Of course.

[1:13:12] Yeah, yeah.

[1:13:13] And I hide behind a beanbag chair and jump out and say boo

[1:13:16] if someone wanders in.

[1:13:17] And Stuart, your room is, well, it's a pizzeria.

[1:13:20] And it's got one of those slushy machines from the Rottweiler.

[1:13:23] It's converted from the garage.

[1:13:26] There's some straw matting in the corner for me to sleep in.

[1:13:32] And a bucket.

[1:13:34] We don't need to know what the bucket's for.

[1:13:36] Multi-purpose.

[1:13:37] Straw matting.

[1:13:41] OK, is that bit done, Dan?

[1:13:42] Yeah.

[1:13:43] That bit done, gone.

[1:13:46] So the last letter of the evening.

[1:13:49] It's a bit of a special letter.

[1:13:50] It comes to us on actual physical paper.

[1:13:55] Who sent this to us, a mummy?

[1:13:56] Handwritten.

[1:13:58] Papyrus?

[1:13:59] Let me just read on.

[1:14:01] It goes, gentlemen of the flop, I wonder

[1:14:04] if I might share with you my amazing, perhaps unique,

[1:14:07] flop house story.

[1:14:09] Lately, having happened across your podcast,

[1:14:11] I've been listening to it obsessively,

[1:14:13] to use a shopworn term.

[1:14:14] Since I work in the film industry,

[1:14:16] I've been a good example of what Henri Bergson,

[1:14:20] is that how you say it?

[1:14:21] Yeah, Henri Bergson.

[1:14:23] Described as, in his book Laughter,

[1:14:25] as a momentary anesthesia of the heart.

[1:14:28] Which is to say, I conveniently neglected the possibility

[1:14:32] that, as I enjoyed the failures of others,

[1:14:34] the bell might one day toll for me.

[1:14:39] But to paraphrase Nietzsche, if you stare long enough

[1:14:43] into the flop house, the flop house will stare into you.

[1:14:46] Especially your flop.

[1:14:47] I thought that was a direct quotation of Nietzsche.

[1:14:49] Yeah.

[1:14:51] Nietzsche was talking about a much earlier podcast.

[1:14:54] Came the day when, scrolling further back

[1:14:56] along the flop house feed, I arrived at my own film,

[1:14:59] The Twilight Saga, colon New Moon.

[1:15:02] Wait a minute.

[1:15:04] That was our most popular episode for a long time.

[1:15:06] Yeah, for a very long time.

[1:15:08] I was put in mind of, again paraphrasing,

[1:15:10] the famous lines of Martin Niemöller.

[1:15:13] First they came from the purge, and I did not speak out,

[1:15:15] for I had not directed the purge.

[1:15:17] Then they came from Grace of Monaco,

[1:15:19] and I did not speak out, for I had not

[1:15:20] directed Grace of Monaco.

[1:15:22] Then they came from poor temptation,

[1:15:24] Confessions of a Marriage Counselor.

[1:15:26] I did not speak out, for I had not

[1:15:28] directed Temptations, Confessions of a Marriage

[1:15:30] Counselor.

[1:15:31] Then they came from me.

[1:15:33] And there the analogy collapses.

[1:15:35] Well, you can imagine my chagrin.

[1:15:36] But in truth, I can raise few objections to the episode.

[1:15:40] I kind of agree with most of the charges leveled.

[1:15:43] Does one set out to make a bad, bad film?

[1:15:46] Of course not.

[1:15:47] One has a new mortgage.

[1:15:49] One receives an offer.

[1:15:51] One decides it would be a good idea.

[1:15:53] And besides, one thinks.

[1:15:54] One feels one can deliver what a fan of The Twilight Saga

[1:15:58] might want.

[1:15:59] One calls oneself one.

[1:16:01] You will probably not recall that all of your critique,

[1:16:04] sorry, you'll probably not recall all of your critiques.

[1:16:08] But again, I agree with most of them.

[1:16:10] Yes, The Golden Compass was a missed opportunity.

[1:16:14] Don't get me started.

[1:16:16] I feel bad now about the things I

[1:16:17] said about The Golden Compass.

[1:16:17] Yes, Elliot.

[1:16:18] I, too, wonder where my Oscar is.

[1:16:21] Though self-regard makes me point out

[1:16:23] that I was, in fact, nominated in 2003.

[1:16:27] Not, as you say, that that actually matters for much.

[1:16:30] What do I draw from all this?

[1:16:31] I would say that matters for a lot.

[1:16:33] That this rather amazing hour of comeuppance

[1:16:36] for my schadenfreude aside, I still

[1:16:40] You're not feeling so proud about saying that clam stuff

[1:16:42] correctly, are you, Dan?

[1:16:43] I mean, he's doing a big words.

[1:16:45] I'll give Dan credit.

[1:16:46] He's reading fucking handwritten,

[1:16:49] as we mentioned, on mummy paper.

[1:16:51] He's reading straight from the hieroglyphics.

[1:16:54] This rather amusing hour of comeuppance

[1:16:56] for my schadenfreude aside, I still enjoy your podcast.

[1:16:59] And it puts me in the mood to make good films.

[1:17:02] So that's good.

[1:17:04] I enclose in closing a copy of my post-New Moon film,

[1:17:08] A Better Life, which I rather like.

[1:17:11] Darian Bishar gives a lovely performance in it.

[1:17:15] In the meanwhile, I wish all three of you the very best

[1:17:18] and look forward to hearing your voices momentarily.

[1:17:22] Yours, Chris, last name withheld, director of New Moon.

[1:17:25] Yeah, so thank you to Chris Weitz, who's

[1:17:33] the definition of a class act.

[1:17:36] I feel really bad now, but I also

[1:17:37] feel good that he likes the podcast.

[1:17:39] Thanks for listening and for not liking us.

[1:17:42] And I would like to remind him that I

[1:17:45] was the one who said that I liked

[1:17:47] American Pie and About-A-Boy.

[1:17:49] Wow, you really threw us under the bus quick.

[1:17:51] Yeah, I have nothing prepared here.

[1:17:54] About-A-Boy is a fine movie.

[1:17:55] I've actually never seen American Pie,

[1:17:57] so I cannot speak for it.

[1:17:58] You've never seen American fucking pie, dude?

[1:18:01] I never got around to it.

[1:18:02] That was the original title.

[1:18:06] I've seen the important scenes, by which

[1:18:07] I mean the one where Shana Elizabeth is topless.

[1:18:09] All right, well, I was going to say, yeah,

[1:18:11] I was going to bring that up.

[1:18:12] I was like, surely, as a guy who was young when

[1:18:16] Growing up, as we all have in the era of the introduction

[1:18:20] of the internet and home video technology,

[1:18:23] it became no longer necessary to sit through an entire film

[1:18:26] to see the moments of nudity, which

[1:18:28] you knew were encased therein.

[1:18:30] I can only imagine some strange alternate universe

[1:18:33] where the internet predated just one of the guys,

[1:18:36] and I no longer had to sit through the entire show on HBO

[1:18:39] to see that one glorious moment where she

[1:18:41] takes her top off at the end.

[1:18:43] Then you would be losing all the great comedy bits.

[1:18:46] Yeah, it's true.

[1:18:48] And all the, like, 40-year-old teenagers playing teenagers.

[1:18:51] I have such a weird nostalgia for having

[1:18:53] to force myself to sit through terrible movies in the hopes

[1:18:58] that there might be a naked lady in it.

[1:19:00] What are you saying is that the payoff is better

[1:19:02] when you tease something like that out?

[1:19:05] You're edging as a viewer.

[1:19:08] There was a time when you had to really pay attention

[1:19:14] to the plot and try to figure out

[1:19:15] which one of Shannon Tweed's patients

[1:19:17] was trying to kill her in between the sex therapy

[1:19:20] scenes where she just watched people have sex

[1:19:22] through a double-sided mirror, of course, into a mirror.

[1:19:25] Thank you very much for writing, sir.

[1:19:27] And the DVD.

[1:19:28] And the DVD.

[1:19:29] I'm looking forward to watching that.

[1:19:31] It's Darian Bashir is in it.

[1:19:36] I like that dude.

[1:19:37] Yeah.

[1:19:38] What was he in?

[1:19:39] According to Peter Travers of Rolling Stone,

[1:19:40] he gives one of the year's best performances.

[1:19:42] He's in the English language remake of The Bridge.

[1:19:47] Oh, OK, I haven't seen that yet.

[1:19:49] And he's very good in that.

[1:19:52] Well, that is a very nice letter.

[1:19:53] This is a delight.

[1:19:54] This is the first time that a director of one of the films

[1:19:57] that we have talked about has reached out to us.

[1:20:00] It's a good thing that, like, Michael Bay didn't write us.

[1:20:02] He'd be real mad.

[1:20:04] Yeah, I mean, well, and, uh...

[1:20:05] Or, uh, or what's his name from, uh, Fateful Findings?

[1:20:09] Neil Breen?

[1:20:10] Neil Breen.

[1:20:11] Oh, he's not gonna write us.

[1:20:12] Like, he's just gonna show,

[1:20:13] he's gonna fuckin' jump out of the computer, like...

[1:20:15] Like, it's...

[1:20:16] Like Samara from The Ring.

[1:20:18] Like a virtuosity?

[1:20:19] But also, I don't think you're misremembering virtuosity.

[1:20:24] I would like to say, as someone who works

[1:20:26] in another corner of the industry,

[1:20:28] it's not like I don't know the feeling of writing a thing

[1:20:31] and then seeing it broadcast and be like,

[1:20:33] hmm, that's not exactly what I wanted it to be.

[1:20:36] You heard it here first, Dan McCoy,

[1:20:37] ashamed of The Daily Show.

[1:20:39] Wow.

[1:20:40] No, but I, no, but that's true.

[1:20:41] I think you're doing a great job, Dan.

[1:20:43] Thanks.

[1:20:44] The, uh...

[1:20:45] You getting enough sleep?

[1:20:46] No, I'm not.

[1:20:47] Oh.

[1:20:49] Are you getting enough knee exercises?

[1:20:51] Probably.

[1:20:52] How's the knee?

[1:20:53] It's all right.

[1:20:53] We haven't heard about the knee in a while.

[1:20:55] Cause it's doing fine.

[1:20:56] And I also have worse things going on in my life.

[1:20:58] There you go, yeah.

[1:20:59] Get any new shoes lately?

[1:21:02] Maybe give yourself a treat.

[1:21:03] Thanks.

[1:21:04] You know, you get your new shoes on

[1:21:06] and suddenly everything's all right,

[1:21:08] whatever that stupid song says.

[1:21:10] Whoa, hot takes from Elliot tonight.

[1:21:12] But, yeah, I think any of us involved

[1:21:16] in creative work of any kind has had stuff,

[1:21:19] failed to meet our hopes and expectations, so.

[1:21:23] I don't do anything creative.

[1:21:25] That's, yeah.

[1:21:26] I'm just a garbage person who serves people poos

[1:21:29] and complains about stuff on the internet.

[1:21:35] So what about you?

[1:21:35] I saw that's one of my favorites.

[1:21:36] Wait, like Rock?

[1:21:37] Yeah, you're a garbage person.

[1:21:39] I'm like the character of Rock,

[1:21:42] played by Charles S. Dutton,

[1:21:44] formerly accused of and served time for manslaughter.

[1:21:47] He did his time.

[1:21:48] He did his time, okay?

[1:21:49] He did his time on the set of Alien 3.

[1:21:51] He paid his debt to society.

[1:21:56] What's he up to now?

[1:21:57] What is it about terrifying things

[1:22:01] that draw us in a little bit closer?

[1:22:03] Charles S. Dutton, still alive, not alive?

[1:22:06] I don't know.

[1:22:07] Well, use your computer phone.

[1:22:08] So just pause the podcast.

[1:22:10] Okay, drag us to the garbage.

[1:22:12] Drag the podcast to the garbage.

[1:22:15] Now, go into the help.

[1:22:19] What color is?

[1:22:21] No, we're not asking that question.

[1:22:22] Klingon blood.

[1:22:25] So, Dan, while you're looking that up,

[1:22:29] should I introduce the next segment?

[1:22:31] So what's the next thing we do, Elliot?

[1:22:32] So we've talked about the movie.

[1:22:34] Okay.

[1:22:34] We gave our final judgments.

[1:22:35] We read the letters.

[1:22:37] Yeah.

[1:22:38] And we were amazed.

[1:22:39] Now it's time.

[1:22:40] At this point, I think it's time.

[1:22:41] Fortunately, Charles S. Dutton is,

[1:22:43] according to IMDb, still alive.

[1:22:46] Okay, good.

[1:22:47] Who am I thinking of then, who passed away?

[1:22:48] I don't know.

[1:22:49] Dan, name everybody who died.

[1:22:50] Danny Houston?

[1:22:51] No.

[1:22:52] Ernest Borgnine.

[1:22:54] No.

[1:22:56] Bernist Orgnine.

[1:22:58] No.

[1:22:59] You know what?

[1:23:00] We ended Bernist Orgnine's.

[1:23:01] I think I'm thinking of Looney Tunes background artist,

[1:23:04] Maurice Noble.

[1:23:05] Okay.

[1:23:07] This is the time in the podcast where we say,

[1:23:09] hey, we just recently had a contest,

[1:23:11] and we have a winner for that contest, right, Dan?

[1:23:13] Yeah, it's Tom Horstman.

[1:23:16] Tom Horstman.

[1:23:18] BoJack Horstman.

[1:23:20] I have contacted him via email.

[1:23:22] As the last minute initiator of this contest,

[1:23:25] I totally sprung it on you dudes.

[1:23:27] And we kind of sprung it on you, the listeners,

[1:23:28] and gave you very little time to turn in artwork for this.

[1:23:33] I gotta say, I was blown away

[1:23:35] by the quality of stuff that people turned in.

[1:23:37] There were some fantastic entries.

[1:23:39] If you haven't had a chance to check this out,

[1:23:41] or you're just tuning in, go over to the Flop House website

[1:23:43] and check out the, go to the blog section, I think,

[1:23:47] and look at the contest entries.

[1:23:50] Because there's some really great choking victim posters,

[1:23:53] and I would have been proud to put any of these things

[1:23:55] up in my bar.

[1:23:57] I gotta say, now I need to open like fucking 12 more bars

[1:24:01] to fucking put all these posters up.

[1:24:03] I wanna say, too, Tony Ocher was a very close runner-up,

[1:24:06] and he's done some great animations for us in the past,

[1:24:10] just as a fan, and so I also contacted him.

[1:24:15] I got nervous when I saw Tony's go up,

[1:24:17] because his went up super fast,

[1:24:18] and I was like, everyone's gonna be totally scarified

[1:24:22] because his looks so great, and I, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1:24:25] So I added a second prize.

[1:24:27] So Tom Horstman's gonna get the T-shirt

[1:24:30] plus the grand prize.

[1:24:32] Picking a movie for us to watch.

[1:24:35] Do not pick nothing but trouble.

[1:24:37] Tony Ocher is going to.

[1:24:37] No, not allowed to pick nothing but trouble.

[1:24:39] I think I said that.

[1:24:40] The one movie no one is allowed to pick.

[1:24:43] What kind of T-shirt?

[1:24:44] Like an ice cap? A Flop House T-shirt.

[1:24:45] Like an old Navy tee?

[1:24:48] I mean, they're on American Apparel tees.

[1:24:50] The thing is, Elliot, it's gonna be a T-shirt

[1:24:53] that confirms that you should have no fear.

[1:24:56] That's what I need from a T-shirt, to deal with my fear.

[1:25:01] That's great, an exciting contest.

[1:25:02] We'll have another contest someday soon.

[1:25:04] Dan, normally I'd say we should promote our live show

[1:25:07] on January 15th, but there's no reason to

[1:25:09] since we sold out already.

[1:25:10] It sold out in five days, which is insanity.

[1:25:13] Thank you to everyone who bought tickets

[1:25:16] and apologies to everyone who missed out this time around.

[1:25:21] We will do more of these in the future.

[1:25:22] I guess we'll do another show sometime soon.

[1:25:24] We gotta do another one.

[1:25:25] There's demand, so the market has to supply it.

[1:25:28] Yeah.

[1:25:30] Maybe we'll make another Elliot, Dan, and Stuart.

[1:25:32] Thanks for going to like the first class

[1:25:35] in an economics course.

[1:25:37] That's the only one I took.

[1:25:39] I got bored and I left.

[1:25:41] I was like, I can draw superheroes somewhere else.

[1:25:45] It's true.

[1:25:46] You can pretty much draw superheroes anywhere.

[1:25:49] The quad, yeah, in the Barnes and Noble,

[1:25:52] in the aisle, all over the mangas.

[1:25:55] You mean mangos?

[1:25:56] Again, you can't eat mangos at a Barnes and Noble.

[1:26:02] So the contest winner was announced.

[1:26:06] We promoted a show that sold out already.

[1:26:08] Sorry, everybody.

[1:26:09] And so now I think we recommend very quickly

[1:26:13] the movie that we watched that we actually enjoyed.

[1:26:15] That is what we do now.

[1:26:16] I'm gonna go first.

[1:26:17] I'm gonna recommend a movie

[1:26:18] that I assumed I'd already recommended,

[1:26:20] and then I checked the Flophouse Recommends page,

[1:26:23] which you should totally check out.

[1:26:24] Just Google that shit.

[1:26:26] Flophouse Recommends, lovingly maintained by,

[1:26:29] oh my God, I want to say Ian Whitney.

[1:26:32] Is that correct?

[1:26:33] Well, I'll double check.

[1:26:35] Dan will edit this out if I put that up.

[1:26:37] Yeah, Dan's gonna do a lot of editing these days.

[1:26:40] That's our 90-minute episode show.

[1:26:42] I'm gonna recommend an amazing movie

[1:26:44] called Dead or Alive,

[1:26:48] directed by Takeshi Miyake.

[1:26:50] It is a crime.

[1:26:52] I'm surprised you haven't recommended it.

[1:26:53] I know, it's a crime thriller.

[1:26:56] If I've already recommended it, if not,

[1:26:58] people should just watch it anyway, it's great.

[1:27:00] It's a crime thriller set in Japan.

[1:27:03] It is very characteristic of a Takeshi Miyake

[1:27:07] movie because it moves super fast at times

[1:27:10] and super slow at other times.

[1:27:12] The movie actually even begins with a punk rock count-off.

[1:27:16] It's super gross.

[1:27:17] There is a scene where a woman gets drowned

[1:27:20] in an inflatable pool full of poop,

[1:27:25] and it has the craziest ending I've ever seen.

[1:27:28] So if at any point you're like, I'm kind of bored,

[1:27:31] this movie's boring, just stick it out, dude.

[1:27:33] Watch the whole fucking thing.

[1:27:35] That's my recommendation, Dead or Alive.

[1:27:38] But don't take my word for it.

[1:27:39] Check out Dead or Alive at your local library.

[1:27:42] And while you're at it, watch Dead or Alive 2

[1:27:44] because it's super great too.

[1:27:47] I was really sitting here racking my brain

[1:27:49] whilst you were talking because I did not walk

[1:27:51] into this podcast knowing what I was gonna recommend,

[1:27:53] and I haven't had the time to watch a lot of movies lately.

[1:27:57] You've been busy.

[1:27:59] True that, but I remember that there was a movie

[1:28:03] that I watched on my computer while in transit.

[1:28:10] I don't.

[1:28:10] Always traveling.

[1:28:11] What kind of transit was it?

[1:28:12] Yeah, was this airborne?

[1:28:14] It was on a train.

[1:28:16] Were you watching the movie Airborne?

[1:28:17] Some kind of Skytrain?

[1:28:19] It was on a train.

[1:28:20] I don't think I recommended this.

[1:28:22] I think I said something to Stuart about it.

[1:28:24] If it stopped making sense, I'm gonna rip my face off.

[1:28:27] Well, luckily you're flying somewhere on Friday,

[1:28:29] so you'll have a movie for next episode.

[1:28:30] Yeah.

[1:28:33] I watched the documentary Drunk, Stoned, Brilliant, Dead.

[1:28:37] I didn't recommend that, did I?

[1:28:38] Oh, I don't think so.

[1:28:39] About the lampoon?

[1:28:40] About the National Lampoon.

[1:28:42] And it's a very entertaining documentary.

[1:28:45] It's done in sort of a kaleidoscopic

[1:28:50] kid stays in the picture style.

[1:28:55] The thing about the lampoon is I don't necessarily

[1:29:00] have a lot of affection for it.

[1:29:04] A lot of the comedy hasn't worn well for me.

[1:29:07] A lot of it is kind of, has like a mean overtone,

[1:29:11] and it seemed to be wanting to shock to shock,

[1:29:15] but you cannot deny the influence

[1:29:18] that it has had on comedy culture.

[1:29:21] I feel like it opened a lot of doors

[1:29:23] to a new style of comedy that has been

[1:29:26] in its sort of derivative forms great and influential.

[1:29:34] And it's a fast movie.

[1:29:37] It's about 90 minutes long.

[1:29:38] It's very interesting.

[1:29:41] Tell us, does the DVD come with interactive menu screens?

[1:29:44] Well, I got it streaming from iTunes, so I don't know, but.

[1:29:49] Screaming out of iTunes.

[1:29:51] Torn from the iTunes.

[1:29:54] Untimely ripped from his mother's iTunes.

[1:29:57] If you're an old man, like.

[1:30:00] movie that's fast is a less time to live you got to make the most of yeah who can

[1:30:06] watch Reds these days you'll be dying so that's what I recommend if you're

[1:30:13] interested in comedy at all I think you'll find something interesting in

[1:30:17] drunk stoned brilliant dead I'm going to recommend a couple episodes ago I

[1:30:22] recommended a movie by the Japanese director Mikio naruse which was kind of

[1:30:28] a women's melodrama film called Ginza cosmetics I watched another one of those

[1:30:32] since then that I liked called wife that is kind of it's a which is it much more

[1:30:38] of a downer movie in some ways about people in a marriage that they have kind

[1:30:44] of stops trying to make work until a crisis comes along and they don't know

[1:30:48] how to deal with it but I thought was really good and I liked it a lot it's

[1:30:52] called wife and I'm also gonna recommend he's gonna have the time to watch a

[1:30:56] whole movie for whatever reason Turner classic movies around Halloween showed

[1:30:59] a bunch of David Lynch's old shorts and I got to catch up on ones I've been

[1:31:02] meaning to watch for a long time and hadn't and there's a very short movie he

[1:31:07] had done for a like Lumiere brothers anniversary project called premonition

[1:31:14] following an evil deed which is less than a minute long and but is still one

[1:31:19] of the like most chilling things I've seen in a while it's a really scary one

[1:31:23] minute so I would or 55 seconds or just so I'd recommend that I think it's on

[1:31:27] YouTube premonition following an evil deed three great wait for great

[1:31:34] recommendations mm-hmm okay now what do we do in the

[1:31:39] podcast and now we blessedly sign off and turn the key and lock the house up

[1:31:45] nobody fucks it up that's right that's what you do with houses yeah I mean are

[1:31:51] we leaving the house the key on a chain around our neck get on a plane and fly

[1:31:55] somewhere else now we lock the door take the key melt it down turn it into a

[1:32:00] little figurine okay like a Hummel exactly wait that's why we got a

[1:32:04] remount the key back into a key shape every week extra security you know like

[1:32:09] in the movie the Patriot where they melt down the little toy soldiers in the

[1:32:12] bullets yeah exactly we're like the movie that's the greatest movie in the

[1:32:17] world according to my dad it is because the costumes are very realistic okay my

[1:32:21] dad judges movies based on how historically accurate the costumes are

[1:32:25] in his mind and how accurately it shows how battles were done in the past mm-hmm

[1:32:30] my dad is exactly the same way any movie where people towers isn't as good because

[1:32:36] the siege warfare isn't super accurate any movie where two armies just stand

[1:32:41] and shoot each other and don't move around very much my dad loves yeah Zulu

[1:32:45] dawn is the best movie in the world according to my dad interesting well

[1:32:50] this is we gave our dad talks it's the annual dad talk conference mm-hmm so

[1:32:58] gonna next week when Elliot and Stewart's dads will be what's the best

[1:33:03] kind of lunch Elliot my dad's gonna what's wrong with this generation what

[1:33:10] town are you from because my dad's probably been there and we'll tell you

[1:33:12] what restaurant he's eaten in and what he thought of it did he buy anything in

[1:33:16] a store in that town you'll find out but until that's just a teaser I'm still

[1:33:25] Stewart Wellington every time I check I'm Elliot Kalin no matter how hard I

[1:33:30] hope it changes good night everyone peace

[1:33:39] stupid podcast we do yeah come on man who cares hey dick how are you gonna

[1:33:50] how are you doing on this plot summary I know some of the reasons why things are

[1:33:55] happening yeah because a lot of things don't in a world what things happen

[1:34:01] what's Syria dad what was Vietnam remember that wait was that a commercial

[1:34:11] there's like a PSA when I was a kid what was Vietnam your children I don't have

[1:34:20] children yeah I think there were a lot of there were a lot of questions about

[1:34:25] Vietnam back then well they were telling teaching you just can't say no to

[1:34:28] Vietnam's mm-hmm yeah kids if you ever find that you're sending more and more

[1:34:33] military advisors to Southeast Asia to protect French colonial interests just

[1:34:39] say no as a thing as a PSA for Henry it was paid for by people to get Henry

[1:34:46] Kissinger to talk to his kids I don't understand why why'd you do these things

[1:34:52] I learned it from watching you death maximum fun org comedy and culture

[1:34:58] artist-owned listener supported hi I'm Brian Safi and I'm Aaron Gibson and we

[1:35:03] host the throwing shade podcast on throwing shade we look at an issue

[1:35:06] important to ladies and an issue important to gay people and then we

[1:35:09] basically make fun yeah and just to answer your question no we don't have a

[1:35:13] marriage pact that if we don't get married by the time we're 30 we're gonna

[1:35:16] do that no each other that's true we have each been divorced three times

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