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[0:00] On this episode of the Flophouse, we discuss United Passions.
[0:05] And by the end of this episode, you're going to be shouting,
[0:08] Goal!
[0:13] So when you told us, I've got an idea for the intro, what you meant was you didn't.
[0:30] Hey everyone, and welcome to the Flophouse, I'm Dan McCoy.
[0:49] Hey there Dan McCoy, I am Stuart Wellington.
[0:52] Hey Robo-Stu, I'm Elliot Kalin.
[0:55] And I am David Kalin.
[0:57] Satan, get thee behind me!
[1:01] Alright, my job is done.
[1:03] You know, when I was imagining this intro, I was imagining Elliot reacting exactly like that.
[1:11] But that happens when we have family functions too, it is not exclusive to this.
[1:15] Is it my fault you look like Satan and I would rather have you behind me?
[1:18] No, Satan was so handsome.
[1:20] Now here's the thing, why do you want Satan to get behind you?
[1:22] Don't you want him in front of you where you can see where he's going?
[1:24] Yeah, you'd think he'd be like a rogue and have a powerful backstab attack.
[1:28] I think you're just hoping that he follows you in lockstep though, isn't he?
[1:32] To where?
[1:33] Wait, you want him to be your minion?
[1:36] Yeah, yeah, exactly.
[1:38] How awesome would that be?
[1:40] Yeah.
[1:42] He'll be my wingman with that lady.
[1:45] Oh, alright.
[1:47] I bet she likes bad boys.
[1:49] This is one of those kind of fave introductions.
[1:51] If she likes bad boys, wouldn't she be suckered in by the devil that she's talking to who's trying to big you up?
[1:58] Or are you saying that you're a badder boy than the devil?
[2:01] If the devil is his wingman, he must be the baddest boy of all.
[2:04] Start producing Bad Boys 3 because I've got your star, this guy.
[2:09] Satan's friend.
[2:11] Starring Satan's friend.
[2:14] So what could possibly have possessed us?
[2:19] Possibly a David Kaelin.
[2:21] The least of the Kaelin men.
[2:23] Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
[2:25] Why would we have David Kaelin, our sworn enemy, on this podcast?
[2:29] I just thought you were giving the people what they wanted.
[2:32] Which people are you talking about?
[2:34] All people always want me. Always.
[2:36] There has been a surprising amount of free David Kaelin talk.
[2:40] That's right.
[2:41] What's interesting about the talk of free David Kaelin is it implies that we're somehow keeping him away from somewhere.
[2:46] You've had me shackled in the basement for years.
[2:49] Yeah, when we were kids.
[2:51] We had him trapped in a lamp genie style.
[2:54] Oh, so cramped in there?
[2:55] But it was a desk lamp.
[2:58] It was a little roomier than a normal desk lamp.
[3:00] I like to wear my pants genie style.
[3:02] How is that?
[3:03] Really blousey and billowy.
[3:06] It really allows room for things to breathe.
[3:09] Yeah, exactly, like magic.
[3:12] And that's why they call him Magic Pants Wellington.
[3:15] Because he keeps a live rabbit in his pants.
[3:17] That's why they call him Magic Johnson.
[3:19] Because his Johnson has a lot of magic room to breathe.
[3:22] When he would say, let me cast a spell on you with my magic wand.
[3:25] Dan knows about sports too, guys.
[3:27] Is that sports beyond the fact that it's Magic Johnson?
[3:31] But it's not Magic Johnson.
[3:32] Wait, there's a guy named Magic Johnson?
[3:34] Yeah.
[3:35] That's a crazy name.
[3:36] It is crazy.
[3:38] Next thing you're going to tell me he owns a chain of movie theaters.
[3:40] That's why he's famous, yeah.
[3:41] And that's why you talked about him on the show, right?
[3:44] What?
[3:45] This show?
[3:46] So let's explain why we have David Kaelin on the show tonight.
[3:49] Well, guys, it is the heart of December.
[3:52] And as they say, as the colloquialism goes, snow on the ground, play ball.
[4:03] What could that possibly be a euphemism for, though?
[4:05] Think about it for a minute.
[4:07] An elderly person.
[4:10] That was pretty clear.
[4:11] Someone who is under the mistaken belief that the age of consent is 75.
[4:17] And so we're doing a sports episode, right?
[4:19] Hold on.
[4:20] Do the curtains match the drapes?
[4:22] Because the drapes are white and snowy.
[4:28] Mildewy and Moth-eaten.
[4:30] Mildewy?
[4:31] Mildewy.
[4:32] I said Mildewy wrong, okay?
[4:34] Sue me.
[4:35] Go get a fucking lawyer for kids.
[4:37] I love your Mildewy.
[4:38] Yeah, what would Mildewy mean if you were to define it?
[4:40] Shakespeare coined his own word.
[4:42] Stuart Willington.
[4:43] Good point.
[4:44] That's a great point.
[4:45] Both have the same claim on the English language.
[4:49] So, Stuart, what does Mildewy mean?
[4:50] Yeah.
[4:51] Mildewy means that they are falling to pieces.
[4:56] Reese's Pieces.
[4:58] Is that what an old person turns into?
[5:00] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[5:01] Okay.
[5:02] We've seen this happen so many times.
[5:04] So, guys, it's sports time.
[5:06] Yeah, man.
[5:07] It's sports time.
[5:08] The heart of sports time.
[5:09] Well, there are a lot of sports in December.
[5:11] Well, there's hockey.
[5:12] There's hockey, basketball, and football.
[5:14] Three of the four major sports are happening right now.
[5:16] And we're going to talk about one of the major...
[5:17] I thought football was on Thanksgiving.
[5:19] Football is not localized entirely on Thanksgiving.
[5:22] That's not the only day.
[5:23] What about...
[5:24] Some people don't watch it on Thanksgiving when their brothers don't let them put it on the TV.
[5:27] That's true.
[5:28] Yeah.
[5:29] It did happen on Thanksgiving.
[5:30] Yeah, you fucker.
[5:31] Anyway...
[5:33] What about that one winter sport where you ride around on skis and then you shoot stuff with a gun?
[5:37] Biathlon?
[5:38] James Bonding?
[5:39] Thank you, Elliot, yes.
[5:41] And then you have a parachute with a Union Jack on it.
[5:44] No matter what country you're from.
[5:46] It's very insulting to the other countries.
[5:48] Well, they don't sell them in other countries.
[5:50] They only sell that one flavor.
[5:53] One flavor of parachute.
[5:57] So I can get any flag put on this parachute?
[6:00] Only the Union Jack.
[6:03] So why are we talking sports?
[6:05] It's December.
[6:06] Sports time, USA.
[6:08] Cage Miss is right around the corner.
[6:10] Cage Miss is coming up.
[6:11] A lot of times people...
[6:13] Shocktober's over.
[6:15] People start putting up their Cage Miss decorations.
[6:17] They forget about Smallvember.
[6:19] And they forget about Sportsnember.
[6:24] And Sandalvember.
[6:26] And Sandalvember.
[6:28] Elliot, is this like a Lucy and Ricky situation with you and David?
[6:33] Yeah, we draw lines literally around corners a lot.
[6:36] Wait a minute, they were married on that show?
[6:38] They were brother and brother.
[6:41] Brother and brother.
[6:43] Wow, you did not think much of Lucille Ball, did you?
[6:46] Anyway.
[6:47] Speaking of balls, soccer balls.
[6:49] Soccer balls, which Lucille Ball was not one of.
[6:52] Now, we watched a sports movie tonight.
[6:54] David, can you tell us a little bit about what sport it was?
[6:56] I thought it was fencing.
[6:57] I would say that we watched a sports movie,
[6:59] except there were almost no sports in the sports movie.
[7:02] But it was about soccer.
[7:05] That's right.
[7:06] Tonight we watched United Passions.
[7:08] Starring Joan Severance.
[7:10] And Shannon Tweed.
[7:12] And Shannon Worry.
[7:13] Together for once.
[7:15] That's right.
[7:16] The two Shannons.
[7:18] Throw Shannon Daugherty in there.
[7:19] Get some three Shannons in there.
[7:21] In the movie we had to call three Shannons in a fountain.
[7:25] That's right.
[7:26] We pushed them in a fountain.
[7:28] So wait, United Passions was the tagline?
[7:31] Oh, no.
[7:32] They were in burlap sacks.
[7:33] Okay.
[7:34] The tagline was, that's a lot of Shannons.
[7:38] Said by like a Mario character.
[7:40] That's a spicy Shannon, he said.
[7:43] And then he went down a pipe into a world filled with turtles.
[7:49] What else are you going to find in pipes?
[7:51] Yeah, I don't know.
[7:52] I don't know.
[7:53] So, David, you know about soccer, right?
[7:55] A little bit, yeah.
[7:56] Okay.
[7:57] So why did we watch this movie again?
[8:00] I think we watched it because we all wanted to torture ourselves
[8:04] for like an hour and 45 minutes or so.
[8:07] That's right.
[8:08] This movie got really bad reviews, right?
[8:10] It did, yeah.
[8:11] You might call it even a flop.
[8:13] Oh, I see what you did there.
[8:15] I don't.
[8:16] Is that what the title of this show is about?
[8:18] So this movie is about the history of FIFA,
[8:21] an international soccer organization named after a small French dog.
[8:24] And it happened to be released the same week that FIFA was revealed
[8:31] to be a horribly corrupt organization that takes lots of bribes.
[8:35] I wouldn't say it was like revealed that week.
[8:37] I think people knew it for years.
[8:39] I didn't.
[8:40] And I'm a regular soccer watching guy.
[8:43] You're a real hooligan type figure.
[8:45] I'm a real goal head.
[8:46] It was released, I don't know if it was the week of,
[8:48] but in very short proximity to when FIFA's headquarters got stormed
[8:51] by the Swiss authorities earlier this year.
[8:54] Wait, so Storm was there?
[8:56] Yeah, Storm was there.
[8:57] That was how they provided cover for the agents.
[8:59] She got it very dark.
[9:00] A lot of clouds rolled in.
[9:02] Okay.
[9:03] And FIFA's defense was lacking.
[9:05] They could use a real goalkeeper.
[9:07] That's all the soccer touchdown is.
[9:11] Foul.
[9:12] Red card.
[9:13] Yep.
[9:14] Offside?
[9:15] That is a term they use, yeah.
[9:17] Touchdown.
[9:18] No, that is not a term they use.
[9:19] Overruled.
[9:20] Objection.
[9:21] I'll allow it.
[9:22] You got soccer'd.
[9:23] You got soccer'd is a term they use, yeah.
[9:25] Step up to the soccer field.
[9:27] Dan, how many times did you forget the name of this movie while you were watching it?
[9:31] Yeah.
[9:32] No, I definitely was like, fateful, something magical.
[9:37] Were you just trying to come up with every random term for a late night Skinamax movie
[9:42] you thought you could and assumed it was right?
[9:44] Lovable occasions.
[9:47] Sacrifices.
[9:49] Ball-a-rama.
[9:51] Balls in your court.
[9:53] Togetherness.
[9:55] Sports.
[9:56] So the movie opens meteor-ez.
[9:58] It does not.
[9:59] No.
[10:00] before the the res is a media
[10:02] uh... we start in the year nineteen oh four
[10:04] which for me
[10:06] is the year that tell us about your son lee finally elected under his own power
[10:10] not just becoming president from assassination
[10:12] but as dan mentioned soccer year zero uh... soccer
[10:16] has a problem
[10:18] everyone plays it and yet they're all playing with different rules and i don't
[10:21] have an international governing body
[10:23] to tell them how they're doing it nobody gets money off nobody's being paid for
[10:28] soccer
[10:29] and even though rich people love to watch it as seen by the opening
[10:33] where it will here's how the movie opened we're like all the top ads in the
[10:36] world
[10:36] come through the top ad convention the movie opens with
[10:40] generic footage of
[10:42] children of different races playing soccer together we're gonna come back to
[10:44] that footage throughout the movie
[10:46] because the tie of the movie is that
[10:48] the main theme is everyone plays soccer and it's the one thing holding our
[10:51] fragile earth together everybody poops and everybody plays soccer
[10:55] with their poop
[10:56] it's disgusting and that's one of the problems people were trying to stamp out
[11:00] was people playing soccer with poop
[11:01] but not literally stamp out because you don't want to step on poop it's going to get
[11:04] all caught burning on your front door then you do want to stamp that out otherwise your house
[11:08] will burn down and we'll be crazy you want a viking funeral of poop
[11:13] that's if that's not a metal album
[11:17] viking funeral of poop we're sending this poop off to die
[11:21] time to cross the rainbow bridge to Valhalla
[11:27] uh... the
[11:29] so it opens with it opens with a series of letters being traded back and forth
[11:33] between fisher stevens and some other dude
[11:36] who are playing the the austrian and french
[11:39] soccer kings i guess i don't know
[11:42] and they go to england and they want to ask the english to join their
[11:44] international soccer league
[11:46] the english as represented by two guys in top hats one with a monocle and a
[11:50] are not having any of it the very idea that someone would tell an englishman
[11:54] how to play soccer
[11:56] is laughable
[11:57] it sets up a conflict between england and the rest of the world which never
[12:00] pays off in the film so then we cut to a meeting where all the other european
[12:04] countries are mad
[12:06] that england didn't join so they decide
[12:08] they're just gonna have their own organization and never let england play
[12:11] in the competition they're gonna go their own way it's one of those great scenes you have in
[12:15] movies where like
[12:16] everybody's just hanging out in a room with their uh... sleeves rolled up just
[12:20] drinking and having a good time like handing out jobs and responsibilities
[12:24] with different accents
[12:26] they're all using different accents which are kind of the same accent and then there's this one guy
[12:29] who's like but we're going to need a general secretary and they're like since you came up
[12:32] with that idea
[12:33] you get to be the general secretary and it's like that's not really good
[12:37] there was a point where everybody did do it and i'm not just gonna do that
[12:43] which i assume is how that scene ended
[12:46] they were trying to get across the thing that this was done for love of the game
[12:50] that game
[12:51] foosball
[12:52] the game that we have not really seen much of
[12:56] with guys without arms
[12:59] to have a rod through all of their shoulders
[13:02] back then in 1904 the only way to play soccer according to
[13:05] and this is why FIFA needed to come in
[13:07] was to take men chop their arms off and run a steel rod through their shoulders
[13:12] and spin their corpses or dying bodies around in circles to kick the ball
[13:17] FIFA said no more we will allow people to keep their arms they can't use them
[13:22] in play
[13:23] except unless they're goalies but we will keep their arms they will be independent of each other
[13:27] if that's the one way i can provide for my family you betcha chop off my arms
[13:32] run that rod through my body it was a very hard time that was a good job back then
[13:35] i want my son to look up to me as i am spun up by corpses
[13:39] hurled around
[13:40] and occasionally kicking the ball also FIFA had to deal with the problem that
[13:44] sometimes the ball would just get caught between two players
[13:48] no one could reach it
[13:50] you're trying to spin them and their bodies they would have to jiggle the field
[13:53] everyone had to jump in the stands to cause enough vibrations the problem is partly that the bodies have
[13:58] entered rigor mortis so they're so stiff that they can't even move the feet out of the way to get the ball out of there
[14:03] one of the other big problems was there would always be one guy at the table who was way more
[14:07] into it than everyone else and you're like dude calm down stop shouting
[14:12] we don't care that much
[14:14] yeah sometimes
[14:16] it's just football guys but they established very early on what this movie
[14:20] will be about which is a series of administrative meetings eventually press
[14:24] conferences and one on one interviews in offices
[14:28] with very little soccer being played on the film except eventually when archival
[14:32] footage is used and there's literally a scene where
[14:36] this is jumping ahead but it's during world war two and there's a scene where they're describing a game between
[14:40] Germans and Ukrainians where the Germans are being outplayed by these starving Ukrainians
[14:45] but the ref is clearly on the German side and is cheating for the Germans
[14:50] and this game is described to us in detail we don't see it we see flashes of it
[14:55] but otherwise it's like we might as well be listening to a radio show called
[15:01] famous moments in soccer
[15:03] don't open that closet it's full of soccer balls
[15:08] they also talk about it and how the game unfolded as if it's like
[15:11] it's as if they're like hearing about the holocaust for the first time or something
[15:14] they're all devastated and that's the other theme of the movie which is that all the world events
[15:18] in history are most important in how they deal with soccer and how they affect FIFA
[15:23] so that
[15:25] world war two what does this mean for FIFA the great depression
[15:28] FIFA we've lost all our money eventually it's September 2001 and we're in Set Bladder's office
[15:34] and just to establish the time period there's a magazine on his desk
[15:39] with the world trade centers being destroyed on it and it's like
[15:42] it's not mentioned at all it's just like hey man
[15:46] in the story of FIFA September 11th is just window dressing that's how important FIFA is
[15:51] the amazing thing though is that like
[15:53] they talk about how these great world events affect soccer and then totally gloss over the world events that happen
[15:57] like they go from like 1936 to 1942 where they show a newspaper talking about the battle of Stalingrad to 1950
[16:05] and if I can't kick it like a ball it's not important
[16:08] I mean this movie had a message to the world which is if you're not bending it like Beckham
[16:13] you are not of note
[16:15] now so they they put together FIFA the name comes right at this point you're probably thinking yes
[16:20] this movie is basically Star Wars the Phantom Menace if you took out all the aliens and stuff
[16:26] it's like all meetings
[16:27] if you took out the aliens and replaced the laser swords with meetings
[16:31] then yeah it's Phantom Menace times two
[16:34] same amount of weird racism though
[16:37] now the movie it just it goes like this
[16:40] Gerard Depardieu comes in and shocks the world by declaring
[16:45] by how fat he's become
[16:47] he needs to be a sex symbol Dan
[16:49] come on
[16:50] he just he can't stand that Uruguay is celebrating its Olympic medal when they had Mexicans on the team he says
[16:57] yeah there's a weird current in the movie of between showing FIFA as an anti-racist inclusive organization that's forward-thinking
[17:05] and showing the people involved in FIFA having a very Eurocentric view of the world
[17:10] until a heroic guy named Sepp Blatter steps on the plate
[17:14] don't jump too far ahead
[17:15] yeah Joe Avalanche who is Brazilian
[17:18] Joe Avalanche
[17:19] because the movie is all about how
[17:21] FIFA is an all-inclusive organization which is why the Brazilian
[17:25] means you don't have to pay for drinks separately
[17:28] meals
[17:29] all your food is included
[17:31] weirdly you have to pay for soccer
[17:33] but there's a midnight buffet though
[17:35] Joe Avalanche who's Brazilian is played by Sam Neill who is he Brazilian?
[17:40] maybe
[17:42] he might have a Brazilian
[17:44] sounds pretty Brazilian
[17:47] now normally I'd go through the plot in more detail but
[17:50] it's just the history of FIFA
[17:53] it's just a bunch of meetings
[17:55] it's a lot of meetings
[17:56] there's a scene but we can talk about a couple great scenes for instance it's 1950
[18:00] the World Cup is in Brazil Brazil is playing Uruguay
[18:03] Brazil loses
[18:04] the movie presents this as the worst tragedy in human history
[18:08] it's just like everyone is horrified and Gerard Depardieu the head of FIFA effectively kills him
[18:15] slow motion walking towards
[18:17] about nine minutes of him walking towards the field to hand the trophy in
[18:21] now there's a great scene where he talks to an eccentric artist about designing the FIFA trophy
[18:27] there's a scene where Tim Roth is confronted with a trunk full of Adidas merchandise
[18:34] now this movie becomes less interesting the fewer mustaches are in it
[18:39] the first half of it is like a collection of historical mustaches
[18:43] the less Fisher Stevens there is in the movie the more I got bored
[18:47] that's very true
[18:48] his head kind of looks like a soccer ball no offense
[18:51] no offense
[18:53] how could he possibly take offense to that?
[18:55] at the implication that he has a Charlie Brown shaped head
[18:58] it looks like somebody cartoonishly tied his tie way too tight
[19:04] just because he's a walking New York Review of Books caricature of himself
[19:10] just because if you put a mustache on a soccer ball it would look like Fisher Stevens
[19:14] just because he was passed over for the role of Wilson in Castaway but not by a lot
[19:19] when they were trying to cast the live action South Park movie they were considering him for the guidance counselor
[19:25] Mr. Mackey
[19:27] the guy with the giant head
[19:29] and this is coming from Fisher Stevens fans
[19:32] he's great we love him
[19:34] you're part of the FS fan club
[19:36] FSFC
[19:37] FeastFuck
[19:38] the Fisher Stevens fan club FeastFuck
[19:41] is all about
[19:42] look
[19:43] FeastFuck?
[19:44] here's the thing
[19:45] sounds a little like FeastFucking
[19:47] sounds like that
[19:48] a little bit
[19:49] we're FeastFucking
[19:50] now here was the problem
[19:51] internationally there was no standardized guidelines for Fisher Stevens appreciation
[19:56] and so FeastFuck had to be created
[19:58] in order to create
[20:00] standardized rules and implement a real international competition for fisher
[20:04] stevens fandom and now you just love
[20:06] feast fucking feast fucking all the time and yeah you get it when you when you
[20:10] apply when you become a member state they give you
[20:12] a what a free brooch to wear
[20:17] and a scrunchie
[20:21] wait you don't wear those at the same time right of course not one is for
[20:24] formal and one is for informal occasions yeah unless of course fs himself fisher
[20:28] stevens is in the room in which case you wear all of that
[20:31] plus your fuss fuck t-shirt plus your official fest fuck gloves
[20:36] before there was official organization there are arguments about whether you
[20:39] could love both short circuit 2 and hackers
[20:42] now we know that it's all acceptable people would be like i think fisher
[20:46] stevens is a is a director producer well i think he's an actor there was
[20:49] arguments of that type yeah luckily fist fuck stepped in
[20:54] now uh this movie is the history of fifa
[20:58] it's a parade of mustaches until it stops being
[21:02] i mean because are we really going to go through there's a couple of scenes
[21:06] there's a couple scenes of strange sexual tension between gerard depardieu
[21:10] and his daughter i guess yeah and who ages
[21:13] 30 years in about a five-year period for georgia purdue they're like yeah the
[21:17] character's a little older we'll put some white in his mustache
[21:19] her they just they pack on the latex they just assume that gerard depardieu's
[21:23] character just really takes care of himself
[21:28] that's a lot of clean living ice cream every night while his daughter is
[21:33] asleep there's a scene where georgia has a
[21:36] dish with ice cream in it while he's having a very important meeting with a
[21:38] uruguayan soccer official and you can tell that
[21:41] as an actor he's just waiting for them to say cut so he can eat that ice cream
[21:44] yummy yummy now i think he goes into his daughter's room when she sleeps at night
[21:49] and kisses her forehead and sucks the youth out of her
[21:52] so it's a kind of a daughter of dorian gray type situation or like a
[21:56] what is it like elizabeth bathory was that the yeah
[21:59] type thing he's bathing in her blood yeah exactly
[22:02] whatever gets the youth i just call it liz oh your buds
[22:05] yeah best buds
[22:09] liz baths yeah uh but like the amazing like get out of that blood shower we
[22:13] gotta go to the movies liz baths was that who fred sanford or in the
[22:18] sanford and son was saying he was got what he was
[22:20] faking a heart attack was when liz baths this is the big one i'm coming
[22:23] liz baths that's right i met elizabeth bathory
[22:27] now here's the thing this was a very boring movie
[22:31] yeah okay uh it's a lot like you're saying a lot of scenes of meetings press
[22:35] conferences i would say that i'm sorry no dan tell me about its finer
[22:40] points dan think of one good thing about this
[22:42] movie other than fisher stevens and tim roth got money from the
[22:45] pod race you think of episode one again
[22:51] again episode star wars episode one which had more sports in it than the
[22:54] fifa movie that is true it had an entire pod it had
[22:58] like 10 minutes of sports non-stop two pod racing
[23:01] pod races if you count the fight at the end where jake lloyd says now this is
[23:04] what i call pod racing yes i don't think technically within the rules
[23:09] of facebook that counts there's no pod racing association to
[23:15] implement the rules so boba could just do whatever he wants
[23:18] have flamethrowers and that's why yeah yeah it is
[23:21] that's why is uh i mean i don't think the
[23:24] flamethrowers are in the pod i thought they were not engines they're in no
[23:27] those are part of the pod aren't these are things that the how do you
[23:32] define what is the pod and what is the engine
[23:34] that pod fuck the pod racing organization directorate fan club
[23:40] it wasn't it wasn't there to organize this you know
[23:43] anyway dan give me one good thing about the movie uh they iris
[23:47] in as a transition once that was kind of old-timey that's true
[23:50] there's an old-timey scene transition element um
[23:54] i would say that people who specialize in old-timey costumes
[23:57] got a lot of work for this movie and that's good for them they used wild
[24:00] wildlife the talking yeah yeah another old-timey thing
[24:04] yeah now as a soccer fan sure i know when the world cups come around
[24:10] you're all like yeah cupping it up let's do this that's exactly what i say
[24:15] corner kick giants forever yeah no giants giants play football
[24:18] yeah exactly that's what they were american football that's true
[24:21] now so as a soccer fan yeah i feel like this is an accurate portrayal of the
[24:26] history of soccer because while we're watching it you're like
[24:28] oh that's when blah blah blah happened oh that's when this yeah i was impressed
[24:31] honestly and also i don't know how anyone could
[24:34] watch this movie without the david annotations and understand a thing that
[24:38] was i was going to say that i learned less from this movie than i have learned
[24:43] from just like glancing at wikipedia articles
[24:45] for like a couple minutes at a time because they tell you like i i
[24:48] recognized all the major pivotal or most of the major pivotal points that
[24:51] they were like events that they were showing but like
[24:53] there's nothing in this movie that indicates what they are
[24:55] at all yeah they'll just show a thing happening there's a couple times when
[24:58] while we were watching i was like maybe i should tell david to save it for the
[25:01] podcast i'm like nah it's boring
[25:05] uh wait what about barbosa giving up the goal in the shock lost by brazil to
[25:09] uruguay in 1950 is boring that was a huge upset that's why i
[25:14] went to become a pirate captain dan americana was very depressed uh wait
[25:18] what was your question coffee americana no no
[25:20] the americana that's the stadium in brazil that they played the 1950 world
[25:24] cup final and 2014 the biggest tragedy yeah exactly still lost yeah and there's
[25:29] where joules ramay who is not brazilian just feels
[25:32] the pain so devoutly well he's brazilian at heart and by what i what i
[25:36] mean by that is he enjoys women's butts and he
[25:39] hates uruguay i'm brazilian at heart you're very much like arnold
[25:43] schwarzenegger in that movie he made where he just goes to
[25:45] rio for carnaval uh he enjoyed what have you guys never seen this in pumping iron
[25:50] or something no it is not in pumping the destroyer yeah it's called it's called
[25:55] conan the partier there's a thing he did where he's in rio for carnaval and
[26:00] there's some line about carnaval is a celebration of my
[26:03] favorite body part the ass it's something that we used to say
[26:07] at work a lot well what was your question though i
[26:10] totally forgot uh so oh no this sequence where brazil
[26:13] loses yeah it's 1950 okay and there's something very funny about
[26:17] it we couldn't quite put our finger on why it was funny
[26:19] where it just keeps it shows no on-field play or next to none
[26:23] it's showing a lot of people in the stands being excited you have the
[26:26] announcer announcing it in portuguese and you have these and you just
[26:30] have the same shots of people in the same three locations being like oh
[26:36] there's like a barbershop and like bar a bar
[26:40] and four old men just at a table on the street just the middle of the street but
[26:43] like really well dressed for some reason uh because they're old
[26:45] brazilian men they have a sense of style fine
[26:48] um that's why it's called a brazilian or getting a brazilian when you're
[26:52] tailored for a nice suit of clothes but i but like we talked about how
[26:56] little soccer there actually is in this movie
[26:58] and i'd like until you see it i cannot stress enough how little soccer there is
[27:02] in a movie that is about soccer yeah it's amazing there's more soccer which
[27:07] is weird since they clearly have the right yes all these like
[27:10] highlight reels of soccer games they did show them they show they show
[27:14] some of the highlight reels later on but it's like
[27:17] that like that those are just showed those games and it would have been more
[27:20] exciting yes we watched that's true this is like a
[27:23] sports movie for like i don't know like fantasy football people who are like
[27:27] you know what's really interesting is like the behind the scenes like choices
[27:32] if you're like i've watched moneyball 3 000 times i guess i'll watch something
[27:36] else but you can also like you can make money
[27:37] almost anything dramatic i like i want to make it clear that moneyball
[27:41] moneyball is fantastic yeah story of what's his name bucky
[27:44] billy be bucky bledsoe barns barns yeah those might be the names of real people
[27:48] that exist they are not involved with the oakland days
[27:51] uh it's about billy bean the general manager the mascot for the american bean
[27:55] farmer no that is not him i'm billy bean eat some beans today
[28:00] that is the wrong person make you fart i don't think so
[28:03] sorry billy beans for beans yeah of course a bean would say that
[28:08] he would say eat me yummy yummy billy beans
[28:11] says beans don't make you fart but let's look at the facts
[28:15] billy beans wrong on beans wrong for america
[28:19] brought to you by the council of enemies of beans i don't know what that would be
[28:22] no brussels sprouts some other thing
[28:25] some other vegetable source that causes you to fart a lot
[28:29] yeah yeah any leafy greens uh don't don't slander billy bean that's a
[28:33] it's a met's draft pick he's a great guy okay like personally i don't know i don't
[28:38] know if he's a good guy person i've never met him
[28:40] now uh so the movie is but there are a couple scenes like
[28:43] there are a couple scenes where fifa is running out of money and needs
[28:47] something to happen and set bladder can always find it but like
[28:50] ethically set platter always makes it happen but they don't show you how it
[28:53] makes it happen there's a scene where they're like
[28:55] we're running out of money we need sponsors but we don't have companies to
[28:58] sponsor us and the guy goes hey that's someone from coca-cola at that table
[29:01] over there because they're at a bar and set bladder goes
[29:03] hold on a second and we see him walk over the table cut to next scene it's
[29:06] like three years later swimming swimming pool and he gets a phone call
[29:11] from set bladder it's like coca-cola's gonna give us some money
[29:14] great you got it he hangs up and it's like what did he how did he
[29:17] what did he do hey he's a he's a he's got a silver tongue man he's a magic man
[29:21] he knows how to sell it to him as a bribe probably
[29:24] well the best part of that is when uh sam neill is swimming and he's like
[29:28] maid assistant daughter they didn't say who it was comes out and it's just like
[29:31] whatever she just comes out and is like mr bladder on the phone
[29:35] it just sounds like an old man saying to a kid like i gotta go pee mr bladder's
[29:40] on the phone and he walks into the bathroom excuse me
[29:43] kid you gotta take a collect call from mr bladder
[29:46] they're always collect calls i'd love to hear this story but
[29:49] mr bladder's on the phone i gotta go mr bladder lives in florida
[29:53] call me guy who has to pee man mr bladder called four times last night
[30:00] there's a lot of people be a lot of his neighbor mister prostate
[30:08] now uh...
[30:09] there's
[30:11] reminded me of a part that i uh... there's there's there's a
[30:14] there's a there's a couple parts to that
[30:16] reinforce the commonly held belief that
[30:19] god and in this case it's jesus
[30:21] uh... is
[30:22] cares about soccer more than anything else
[30:24] uh... there's a part of this is a part of our department to
[30:27] he needs help for something and he just doesn't bring a second grace to god
[30:31] brother cross and i guess what do you know i don't remember what you know or
[30:35] i don't know if it works
[30:36] it is
[30:37] people still here at work to have god loves and there's a part of the never
[30:40] died right he still alive
[30:42] uh... gerard ever do that and i think it is a little bit of a came back and you
[30:47] know that what that that that uh... you know it was a man does that this is
[30:51] funeral in the coffin that is definitely not big enough to fit his name
[30:54] i'm assuming he's not dead yet
[30:56] because he turns into like a fucking gelatinous ooze or something
[31:00] or else it's senator kelly and x-men i should say that the uh... he they they
[31:05] buried up but uh... to fool people they buried a box a coffin full of rocks
[31:09] which ironically weighed less than he does
[31:11] i was going to say the coffin the coffin definitely could have fit joules remay
[31:14] who is pretty
[31:15] we talked about this earlier was actually pretty skinny in real life he
[31:18] definitely could not have fit
[31:19] gerard depardieu acting he is the real coffin
[31:22] there's also a scene where tim roth as seth bladder is just looking at a coffin for a couple seconds and i don't know who that character was
[31:28] they never introduced that in person
[31:30] are you sure? they might have without saying that person's name he was trying to show the
[31:33] passage of time
[31:35] it was during the wild wild life montage well i guess that guy's dead
[31:39] every time you start saying that i think you're going to say wild wild west so i get really excited
[31:43] wicka wot wicka wicka wot wicka wot
[31:46] i just think nothing makes me think of like a solemn funereal procession like
[31:50] wild wild life well that's what we're going to play at dan's funeral
[31:53] yeah i would appreciate that sure yeah but then we're going to play kokomo
[31:57] oh no
[31:59] that's where you have to spend eternity with that middle-aged guy and the younger
[32:03] woman he's trying to convince to come with him to kokomo
[32:06] gross like in aruba
[32:09] jamaica
[32:09] no wait
[32:10] who do i want to take you? where?
[32:13] to bermuda? i don't know
[32:15] bahamas
[32:17] well hey come on pretty mamas
[32:19] uh... kilargo montego? is that a place?
[32:22] hey baby why don't we go?
[32:24] down to i hate that song
[32:26] i don't know why for some reason there was like a year when i was growing up as a
[32:30] kid where that song was impossible to avoid yeah because you had fucking full house on all the time
[32:36] that was part of the problem
[32:38] like i could hang out with my pals in touch and you didn't even give a fuck
[32:41] at least i can find solace in full house you'll never betray me
[32:45] oh jesse don't go to that beef boys concert
[32:47] now the whole family's getting up
[32:49] he doesn't even need to go to the concert they just show up to the house all the time
[32:52] it sounded like you said
[32:53] don't go to that beef boys concert
[32:56] oh certainly don't go there
[32:58] those guys are fucking crazy
[33:03] what is that like a meat based beef boys cover band? i thought that was like an off-brand fat boys
[33:10] it's like a
[33:11] it's like a meatloaf
[33:14] yeah it's like a meatloaf but he's a killer he's a serial killer
[33:19] that's meatloaf covering serial killer
[33:23] beef boys
[33:27] you know what i was thinking of the song psycho killer
[33:30] are beef boys right for you?
[33:32] yeah what about the song psycho killer?
[33:34] i would love to hear meatloaf cover it
[33:36] i can tell you how to go
[33:38] i can't sleep cause my bed's on fire
[33:43] that's how every meatloaf song goes
[33:45] i'm gonna sing slow for a little bit but then i'm gonna sing fast and i'm gonna go like this
[33:53] that's meatloaf
[33:54] okay
[33:56] please mr.loaf lives in florida call me meat
[33:59] so soccer guys
[34:01] and i had a thing i was going to talk about
[34:05] there's a part so they're describing that match between the germans and the ukrainians and someone says
[34:09] how hard they play and the guy goes
[34:11] they say it was like god himself laced up that day and i wish
[34:16] that they had shown god jumping into the game and just lacing up his boots and
[34:20] just kicking that ball and then he kicks the ball so hard it knocks hitler's head off
[34:27] yes if you want something done right you have to do it yourself
[34:33] they spend a bunch of time talking about apartheid and south africa
[34:36] that's like a consistent thing they bring up is to show how fifa is so forward thinking and righteous
[34:41] is they make a big point about how avalanche wouldn't allow
[34:45] avalanche whatever avalanche wouldn't allow south africa to be a member of
[34:50] fifa
[34:51] even as fifa expands they make a big point about how fifa expands
[34:54] into africa and asia under avalanche and set bladders
[34:58] guidance without pointing out that they basically just use that as a tool to keep themselves reelected
[35:02] you were saying that they would arrange for bribes
[35:05] they would put money into those countries to help develop the game but
[35:08] they would make sure that a lot of that money went into the pockets of the
[35:10] presidents of the federations
[35:15] by making all countries equal giving them all an equal vote
[35:18] they're putting them on the same foot as like a germany
[35:23] we don't talk about hands
[35:26] they're not stupid enough to think that's not going to benefit them
[35:30] i feel like there could be a better movie and i don't know
[35:33] yes you know what let me just stop right there
[35:36] your hypothesis is correct we don't even need to test it
[35:39] i would say there are many better movies it is conceivably possible to have a better movie than this one
[35:45] a better movie? destiny jones on the radio better movie
[35:48] mr destiny better movie
[35:51] a better movie on this? i'll name you a better movie about soccer than this movie
[35:54] ladybugs
[35:55] ladybugs is a better movie than this movie and that's a bad movie
[35:58] a better movie could be made on this topic i don't know why
[36:03] someone would make a better movie on this topic
[36:05] because it's kind of odd that this movie was made in the first place
[36:09] but it was made on this topic that acknowledges
[36:12] that like
[36:14] there was a deal with the devil made that actually like
[36:16] had some good come of it like the idea of like
[36:19] that this is not all bad not all good the fact that they like
[36:22] did let in these other countries but also but for reasons that benefit
[36:25] themselves like in like that's a movie that would be an interesting way to do it
[36:29] unfortunately that would not be the fifa is the greatest thing ever and the movie
[36:32] is was financed
[36:34] by fifa so what? yeah i know
[36:37] crazy it was like twenty nine million dollars or something which i can
[36:41] tell you were not spent on the soccer scenes apparently
[36:44] but uh... it's all on the screen
[36:46] it's all up there when you look at it in the series of offices they read it
[36:50] it's an incredibly well polished movie in every part that doesn't involve what you care about
[36:55] yeah that's a good point that's a great shot on a boat where sam neill looks like gary oldman
[37:00] as uh... that smiley guy from tinker taylor soldier spot
[37:04] yeah that's his name
[37:05] i was going to say smiley from the lolz movie
[37:09] they point out they point out multiple times that
[37:12] fifa wouldn't allow south africa to be a member nation as long as apartheid was
[37:15] the system in place there
[37:16] and that's like their one thing to point out that fifa is like super righteous
[37:20] and they you know
[37:22] they're just trying to show the whole time that fifa is this
[37:25] benevolent organization that's pulling the world together
[37:28] when it's
[37:29] not at all? totally not, sleeping on beds of blood diamonds
[37:36] that doesn't even sound comfortable with a blanket made out of blood diamonds
[37:40] high heels aren't comfortable but you'll wear them because they make your butt look great
[37:42] same thing with beds of blood diamonds
[37:45] well your butt is all scraped up yeah i was sleeping on a bed of blood diamonds
[37:49] but his butt's so scrapy
[37:51] it's like seal's face is his butt
[37:56] that's mean
[37:57] sorry
[37:58] i apologize seal
[37:58] anyway i forget if it was you or dan who was saying this
[38:02] seems like the movie that
[38:03] they show to new fifa employees when they start out
[38:07] that like every couple of minutes
[38:09] one of the actors should have stopped and looked at the camera and given you a tip about
[38:11] dealing with the customers or you know what what proper office etiquette
[38:15] there should have been some bullet points on the screen
[38:18] i also don't know how every no meeting can look like
[38:21] appropriate and normal like there's the meeting
[38:23] where sepp blatter meets with
[38:24] i mean they're not all taking place in like a mad max world
[38:26] well yeah but like
[38:27] there's bikers driving around shooting missiles and arrows at each other
[38:30] but like there's this meeting where sepp blatter meets with the guy from adidas
[38:33] to be like yeah
[38:35] sorry adidas
[38:37] to meet with adidas
[38:39] to say like you know adidas wants to have our soccer ball and our uniforms
[38:44] and everything in the next world cup and like that's not crazy
[38:46] like having a company pay to have that kind of exposure
[38:48] it's not as crazy as having like nintendo do that would be
[38:50] they don't make uniforms
[38:52] but like it's a totally
[38:54] mcdonalds is like we want you to wear mcnuggets
[38:56] in the next world cup
[38:58] just on our skin
[39:00] sewn together into shirts
[39:02] i was going to ask if you meant like a mcnugget costume
[39:04] or if they actually just took mcnuggets
[39:06] yup the mcnugget characters
[39:08] who are screaming in pain from being stitched together
[39:11] like some kind of weird golem
[39:13] like in that clive barker short story
[39:15] you know like that uh
[39:17] when freddy lifts up his shirt or whatever
[39:19] and there's a lot of screaming souls in there
[39:21] and he's shredded
[39:23] he's ripped
[39:25] he's shredded because he scratched himself with his razor glove
[39:27] and he cut himself
[39:29] but my point is
[39:31] he's got abs
[39:33] for miles
[39:35] for days
[39:37] yes david
[39:39] i was just going to say these meetings are all presented in this covert secret way
[39:41] but like
[39:43] maybe
[39:45] they're normal meetings but also like
[39:47] if you're trying to present a movie about how on the level and great
[39:49] fifa is why would you set up all these meetings
[39:51] to be at like a roadside gas station
[39:53] where it looks really creepy and sketchy
[39:55] i feel like a lot of those early meetings
[39:57] they try and make it
[39:59] fifa
[40:00] seem like an underdog, like you should be rooting for him, which is stupid and crazy.
[40:06] Well, at the time, no, no, I can't justify that.
[40:11] I mean, that's the main issue is the movie does not make you care ever if FIFA survives. So
[40:16] Fisher Stevens is distraught in 1930 because he invested all of FIFA's money in the stock
[40:20] market and it's crashed. And he's like, we've lost everything.
[40:23] People can never play soccer again, right, dudes?
[40:26] I had to give the rules to soccer to the bank to pay off the load.
[40:32] Now, no one will ever know. And it just shows an evil bank man putting the rules in a vault
[40:36] and spinning the dial so it's locked forever and then filling it with concrete
[40:40] so it can never be opened. Now, soccer will never be played.
[40:48] But at that moment, it's like, there's going to be no FIFA. And my reaction to that was,
[40:53] all right, I mean, whatever, your club's not open anymore. Okay.
[40:56] We didn't share the same reaction to that.
[40:59] Like, I just didn't care. It couldn't even make me care when they were literally on the
[41:02] verge of bankruptcy. Yeah, but that's because the movie's terrible.
[41:05] The only reason I cared was because I worried that Fisher Stevens might hurt himself because
[41:09] he was so young. He did look like he was about to jump off
[41:11] the bridge they were talking about. Pretty frail.
[41:17] If his character dies in the movie, he still gets paid, right? Like the actor?
[41:21] Or the character. He's also got a weird claw, that's right.
[41:24] If a character dies in a movie, they pretend they can't see or hear the actor anymore?
[41:29] All of those Law and Order corpses never got paid.
[41:32] Yeah, they're dead. Yeah, they got tricked into signing up.
[41:35] Steven Seagal walks up to the accounts payable window for executive decision,
[41:39] and he's like, my money, please. Is that Steven Seagal's character for executive decision?
[41:45] I wish he was here. We have money to give him, but he died in the beginning of the movie.
[41:48] Spoiler alert. Oh, yeah.
[41:50] Sorry. Come on.
[41:51] I didn't mean to spoil a movie no one has watched in 15 years.
[41:55] That is one of my favorite movies to watch on cable TV when it is on.
[42:00] On First Dates. Yeah, on First Dates.
[42:02] Like, I want to show this movie that the poster made me assume that Kurt Russell
[42:06] was holding a katana, but that's actually the wing of a stealth bomber.
[42:12] Evil David Suchet in it. I mean, what else do you want?
[42:15] I'm okay. I apologize. It's the best movie ever.
[42:18] Thank you, Elliot. This movie is better than United Passions.
[42:21] On a scale from United Passions to zero, I give it off the charts.
[42:26] One of my favorite things about Executive Decision, though,
[42:28] since we're on the topic, is that it was considered this big time project and paramount.
[42:33] What do you mean big time? Charitable.
[42:36] Like the big dig? I don't know.
[42:37] No, no, like when it was first being made or when it was in development.
[42:43] This is a big time project. Let's fast track it.
[42:48] Sir, this Executive Decision movie, is that one of our little time projects?
[42:51] Oh, no. Oh, no.
[42:54] Callahan, that is a big time project.
[42:56] Should we build the Colossus of Rhodes or make Executive Decision?
[43:01] We can't do both. We can't build both your pyramid tomb.
[43:05] Burn down the Library of Alexandria.
[43:07] And do Executive Decision. I guess my soul is just disappearing to the winds then.
[43:12] You guys are impossible to sit around and talk about stuff with.
[43:16] Don't bother building a vessel for my cause so that I may travel to the next world.
[43:21] Make Executive Decision.
[43:23] I think sitting with all of you is what you've made everyone think sitting with me is like.
[43:27] The President has two folders on his desk and one says,
[43:30] Flight to Mars, and the other says Executive Decision starring Kurt Russell.
[43:35] And he's like, boys, I don't know what to tell you.
[43:37] I've got to go with this Kurt Russell movie.
[43:40] Well, sorry, Mars, maybe some other time.
[43:42] The thing I was going to say about Executive Decision is no longer funny, so forget it.
[43:48] No, no, it's not going to be a big time project.
[43:50] And Paramount had the rights and they sold it, or no, like they sold it to 20th Century Fox
[43:56] and 20th Century Fox in exchange.
[43:57] It's the boringest story I've ever heard.
[44:00] And we just watched it at night in mansions.
[44:03] Give it a chance.
[44:04] Give it a chance.
[44:07] The movie, the movie, it's going to be like one of those Paul Harvey stories.
[44:12] Well, afterwards, we'll know the rest of the story.
[44:14] The movie that Paramount got in exchange for getting rid of this was Forrest Gump.
[44:18] And now you know the rest of the story.
[44:21] Yeah, exactly.
[44:23] And if they hadn't made that, we never could have had Kevin Nealon in Forrest Gump 2.
[44:27] Gump again in the movie Cecil B. Demented.
[44:30] Yes, I think Dan wanted to wrap this up.
[44:34] I just want to say at the end of the movie...
[44:35] Yeah, I was pretty sure because we wouldn't have missed all that great executive decisions.
[44:40] We would have missed that real corker of a tale.
[44:45] All right, fuck all of you.
[44:47] Can you write that down so I can share it with my children?
[44:52] Oh, no, call up your publisher now.
[44:55] Tell them you know what your next book is and then call up somebody.
[44:59] Oh, God.
[45:00] And tell them they need to hear this tale.
[45:02] I think this whole episode was just set up as vengeance
[45:05] to try and make me pay for irritating you all for so long.
[45:10] Oh, so...
[45:11] We appreciate your soccer and your executive decision expertise.
[45:14] Yeah.
[45:14] FIFA, the movie starring...
[45:17] Soccer.
[45:18] Okay, we really need to get to...
[45:20] United Passion.
[45:23] Fire it up.
[45:25] Smash cut.
[45:26] Kids playing soccer.
[45:28] Then FIFA shows up and Tim Roth says, game on, boys.
[45:32] The best thing about...
[45:32] Waves into the camera.
[45:35] I just have to say, at the end of the movie is Sepp Blatter dealing with thoughts of corruption
[45:40] and all the European football heads being like,
[45:43] you're going to lose this election in 2002 in Seoul.
[45:45] And he's like, I will be okay.
[45:47] And then he wins the election rebuking all the corruption that he has faced when like...
[45:53] Through no effort on his own.
[45:55] Exactly.
[45:55] And considering that in real life, it is very clear.
[45:58] He's suspended from being president right now.
[46:00] We all know he's incredibly corrupt.
[46:02] It just rang incredibly hollow.
[46:04] And I found that enjoyable.
[46:05] Even if it didn't ring hollow, it's just he does nothing to defend himself.
[46:10] So there's no reason why we should be like, oh, great.
[46:12] He isn't corrupt, I guess.
[46:14] Well, but the music gets really loud, though.
[46:15] He doesn't even earn it.
[46:16] There's this triumphant music.
[46:17] Yeah.
[46:18] The triumph of the Sepp.
[46:19] There's like four different scenes in this movie with triumphant music out of nowhere.
[46:23] And they're all at announcements.
[46:25] Yeah.
[46:25] Not even at soccer matches.
[46:26] They're at announcements of where things are going to be held.
[46:29] Again, I...
[46:29] Or who's winning an election.
[46:30] I cannot say this enough that there is almost no soccer in this movie about soccer.
[46:35] Do you like soccer?
[46:36] Don't watch this movie.
[46:37] Yeah.
[46:38] Do you like soccer movies?
[46:40] Kayla goes, what's your favorite soccer movie?
[46:42] United Passions?
[46:43] Really?
[46:46] I just think that maybe their hope was that because a lot of people that don't like soccer,
[46:49] the knock on it, they say is that it's boring.
[46:51] Yes.
[46:51] So I hope I think that FIFA's hope was that by watching this movie, those people who thought
[46:56] soccer was boring would be like, oh, can't we at least just watch soccer now?
[47:00] Because that would be more interesting than watching this movie.
[47:03] Yeah.
[47:04] Final judgments.
[47:06] Was this a good, great movie?
[47:07] Best movie ever?
[47:08] Or burn all the other movies.
[47:10] Four, three soccer balls.
[47:11] Hooray.
[47:13] Was this movie a goal in one?
[47:22] Good, bad movie.
[47:23] A bad, bad movie.
[47:25] Or a movie you kind of liked.
[47:26] I'm going to start.
[47:26] I'm going to say that for an hour, I thought this was a good, bad movie because-
[47:33] But it was all mustaches and-
[47:34] It was all mustaches and just like, yeah, like old timey like-
[47:38] It's enjoyably silly at that point.
[47:40] The best, like the most important thing we could do for society is to create a governing body
[47:46] so that all the nations can play this footed ball with one another and then-
[47:51] And we can get paid, dudes.
[47:54] But then after that, it just got boring.
[47:57] So I don't know.
[47:59] Yeah.
[48:00] Why don't you check out an hour of it if you can see it for free
[48:03] and then turn it off and do something else?
[48:05] That's my recommendation.
[48:06] I'm going to say don't watch this movie.
[48:08] It's super bad.
[48:08] Yeah.
[48:09] I'm going to go with Stuart on this one, too.
[48:11] If you want to leave something on the TV while you go to the bathroom for an hour and a half-
[48:17] Two hours.
[48:18] Yeah, I guess two hours.
[48:19] I don't know, dude.
[48:20] Bathroom for two hours?
[48:21] What are you doing in there?
[48:23] You've got a bigger problem than what movie should I watch.
[48:26] Goddamn it, I'm afraid of the length of the movie.
[48:29] Unless you just don't want to see the movie, so you're just staying in the bathroom until it's over.
[48:33] I'm still in the door, just a little bit to be out.
[48:35] You see Tim Roth on the screen, you go, ah!
[48:37] And then shut the door again.
[48:39] There is a monster at the end of this book, and its name is Grover.
[48:44] Spoiler alert.
[48:49] I would not even recommend leaving the movie on while you're out
[48:52] in case someone has bugged your apartment and you don't want to force them to have to sit through it.
[48:56] I would say that I enjoyed watching it with you guys, and there was a bit of-
[49:02] Oh, thanks, bro.
[49:03] Sure thing.
[49:04] And there's a bit of schadenfreude that I enjoyed knowing that this movie cost like
[49:08] 30 million dollars, and I think it grossed like 300 in the United States.
[49:12] I think, I mean, not counting movies that made zero money that were released,
[49:16] it seems to be on record, whoever's keeping these records,
[49:19] as the least money-making movie in the United States history.
[49:23] And that was probably just paid for by people to go into the movie theater and go B.M. or-
[49:30] I think there's-
[49:32] Hey, I got my ticket to use your bathroom.
[49:34] Fine, I'll take one ticket to whatever.
[49:36] I gotta spend two hours in the bathroom.
[49:38] I might as well be in a movie theater.
[49:40] Well, there was a, I think there was a theater-
[49:42] I mean, it's so hot out.
[49:44] You know, the movie theater's air-conditioned, and I can just murder myself in the theater
[49:47] and someone else will clean it up.
[49:50] There was a theater, I think on the Wikipedia page,
[49:52] it says there was a theater in Phoenix that literally sold one ticket to one of its showings.
[49:55] And that was it.
[49:56] That was probably a bathroom.
[49:57] Anyway, I-
[49:58] The screening of Spectre, I was in the other-
[50:00] they had two tickets sold so really yeah well i it was also like a one oh five
[50:04] p.m. screen yeah a month after it came out for a while anyway I had fun
[50:09] watching it with you guys because we were all similarly frustrated by it but
[50:13] yeah but it's dog shit it's a bad bad movie I would not watch it again yeah I
[50:17] would not I definitely would not recommend watching it without the
[50:20] annotations you said washing it at all yes you said you need the David Cain
[50:26] annotations or else you're not gonna be able to follow a lot of it too yeah I
[50:29] knew everything that was happening in it and I had trouble following it so that
[50:34] shows you how terrible the soccer whoo-hoo
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[51:06] here thanks to all you crazy people we sold out our bell house live show in
[51:12] Brooklyn on Friday January the 15th within five days and so due to popular
[51:19] demand we have added a second show on Saturday January 16th the very next day
[51:26] doors open at 6 p.m. show at 6 30 p.m. tickets $12 at the bell house in
[51:34] beautiful Gowanus Brooklyn you may ask us will we be watching the same movie or
[51:40] will there be a different movie there will be a different movie although all
[51:46] of our comedy routines except for Stewart's who was an overachiever will
[51:49] be the same before the show so two different shows which means I assume
[51:56] that there will be some out there who will like to come to both shows that's
[51:59] fine we encourage it please if you're crazy enough to want to come to both
[52:03] shows do so however if you have a ticket for the first show maybe hold off for a
[52:08] day or two and give someone who is not so lucky the first time around a chance
[52:13] to get a ticket we would like to provide the opportunity for the widest
[52:17] variety of people to see the shows so links to buy tickets for the show will
[52:24] be up on our website flop house podcast.com or on the bell house website
[52:31] that's www dot the bell house New York that's just in why sorry the bell house
[52:38] in why.com and we hope to see you there in January thanks but now we should move
[52:49] now we do the letters from listeners who I this will be fun
[52:54] hey guys I had a yeah usually things that when there's introduced that way
[53:04] end up not being fun I had a busy day at work today and so I didn't get to choose
[53:08] letters the old random mail so you're saying you usually usually just spend
[53:14] your time at work looking at letters for your every knows you spend most of the
[53:19] day posting to Facebook in the flop house Facebook group so I didn't have
[53:24] time to screen things so we're gonna play a little game called I'm gonna read
[53:28] the first four letters that come up hey everybody it's America's favorite game
[53:34] the game called I'm gonna read the first four letters in the flop house
[53:38] folder it's called letter roulette did you send a letter to Dan in the last 10
[53:44] minutes cuz if you did if you did if you did we'll be reading it now it's
[53:50] America's favorite game not soccer all right so this real quick I want to jump
[53:57] here and give thanks America does like soccer I want to make that to the MLS
[54:03] cutlery and Rorty's and all the other Houston Houston floppers out there
[54:08] Andrew thanks for sending me the the cassette mixtape for the horror movie
[54:14] marathon you guys showed the heavy metal horror movie marathon you guys showed
[54:17] down at the Alamo Draft House thanks for the mixtape dog all right okay
[54:23] I want to give thanks to Ashley Shannon
[54:36] Ashley Shannon who was kind enough to not only print off a copy of the contest
[54:43] winners entry but also put it in a lovely frame that matches the decor of
[54:48] my bar that will open someday hopefully otherwise I will totally murder myself
[54:54] so Ashley Shannon thank you so much it looks beautiful expect to see tons of
[54:59] pictures of it on the internet all right okay and I just want to jump in here and
[55:04] give a thanks to all of our brave men and women serving in America's fighting
[55:07] that's really brave for you to say you know I just I feel like they don't go
[55:11] noticed enough so this first letter is from I would like to thank I would I
[55:26] would like to thank the New York Mets who I know you didn't go all the way
[55:29] this year which Elliot reminds me about all the time I oh I was about to write
[55:33] but I think the Kansas City Royals in their hearts out and just taking
[55:37] advantage of every error made by that other team I don't know they were like
[55:40] there were like three no you don't know what you were talking about
[55:43] errored the shit out of Daniel Murphy let's one fucking ball go under his
[55:48] glove all right I'm losing everybody hey what's your name Murphy anyway I tell
[55:54] people all you can hope all you can hope is that a team you care about gives you
[55:58] a reason to care and this year they did and next year next love and who loves
[56:04] you and you cling tight to them just cling tight talking about realistic
[56:09] nobody's gonna love me Dan right I have to thank this first letter writer
[56:28] dear Dan this is from Irvin last name with held Welsh wait Magic Johnson yeah
[56:35] that's right amazing slogging through the back catalogs most much to my
[56:39] girlfriend's displeasure mostly because she finds Elliot's voice annoying I
[56:44] heard a bit of with a lot in common with my family carefully curated letters I
[56:51] heard a great bit of wisdom on the Atlas shrugged episode Elliot said to
[56:56] paraphrase people always warn you about a slippery slope but you know what a
[56:59] slippery slope is a water slide and it's great I thought that shit brilliant I
[57:04] ran to my girlfriend to share and after I told her what Elliot said she replied
[57:08] I hate him Stuart is still my favorite that's from Irvin last name I don't talk
[57:14] as much well I guess discuss I don't know what to do it seems not like I
[57:22] think that's a great letter yeah that was a fantastic well my family likes me
[57:26] mostly well I mean I like you so growing up was Elliot's voice always
[57:34] annoying oh yeah always but he didn't like use it as much now you guys give
[57:39] him way too much free reign that's no that's I mean I was not a confident
[57:42] child in many ways I was not a confident adolescent I really took getting into
[57:45] college and realizing that it was fun to be irritating to get me to talk as much
[57:50] as you also started that creatine program where you got super I was really
[57:56] into bodybuilding the Tom Noonan of the area and then I just stopped I wasn't
[58:03] interested when we were kids you change your entire wardrobe to Zuba's and those
[58:07] big dog t-shirts I was all into whatever branded t-shirts I could wear life's a
[58:14] beach was those ones lower it was bad boys club is what you're thinking what
[58:19] were the ones about like that go ahead naked volleyball no the most toys wins
[58:24] or something like that I mean that sounds like a t-shirt it was there was
[58:28] where it would be like I heard you though Dan would be like Johnson were
[58:33] great t-shirts yeah an enormous silhouette of a basketball player who's
[58:37] like coming at you like a space jam thing when I was in Japan this summer
[58:43] they had space jam t-shirts for sale in their department stores I was gonna say
[58:57] when we were kids though I was probably the more irritating one no I know it's
[59:01] hard to believe get out of here I know I know so damn what's the second random
[59:06] letter that's gonna be about insulting me okay it's titled Stuart gets the
[59:10] shaft I'm writing to express my displeasure with a trend I've noticed
[59:18] over the last several months when listeners write into the show they
[59:21] direct questions regarding cinema history writing and philosophy Dan and
[59:25] Elliot where Stuart gets questions along the lines of if you were going to fuck a
[59:29] sandwich which would be it's pulled pork every time I'd like to turn the
[59:36] tables here and throw a thoughtful question and my favorite peach what is
[59:42] the metaphysics of this sandwich that you're having sex with pause it real
[59:46] quick so I can figure this out Stuart there's a bunch of movies out there that
[59:49] upon first release were given negative reviews but received much more positive
[59:54] reviews in later years like United Passion Walter Hills the Warriors is one
[59:57] that comes to mind any movies you think got a
[1:00:00] Bad rap that people will eventually come around to love in the future?
[1:00:03] Dan and Elliot.
[1:00:04] If you were going to fuck a sandwich, which one would it be?
[1:00:06] Tuna fish.
[1:00:07] Thanks.
[1:00:08] For years of laughter.
[1:00:09] Zach.
[1:00:10] Yeah, I'm going to go egg salad, but Stu.
[1:00:15] I think the most obvious one, at least to me, would be John Carter of recent years.
[1:00:21] Not that John Carter is the greatest movie, but it was really maligned by critics who
[1:00:27] saw the terrible box office results and started just shitting on it.
[1:00:31] And even before it came out, they wanted to take down this expensive movie.
[1:00:34] Yeah, exactly.
[1:00:35] And I think, I mean, I'm not going to say it's the best movie in the world.
[1:00:39] Don't edit that and change that, Elliot.
[1:00:42] But I mean, I think for a big space adventure, I think it's pretty great.
[1:00:48] And it's got big rig in outer space.
[1:00:50] Sure, yeah.
[1:00:51] Dan, maybe the two of us could double team like a hoagie, like a party sub.
[1:00:56] Let's not talk about double teaming anything.
[1:00:58] You guys could high five each other while attacking.
[1:01:00] Exactly.
[1:01:01] And we're not being demeaning because it's a sandwich.
[1:01:03] And the fun part is that you guys could like look into each other's eyes.
[1:01:06] You could maybe talk.
[1:01:07] Yeah, we could talk about what's going on in our lives.
[1:01:09] Unless we're watching the movie Dumbleteam.
[1:01:11] I don't want to talk about it.
[1:01:12] Dumbleteam?
[1:01:13] Is that the word Dumbledore gets?
[1:01:14] Yeah, that's right.
[1:01:15] Him and Dennis Rodman were a great team.
[1:01:17] Dumbledore.
[1:01:18] Yeah.
[1:01:19] I'm just really glad that sandwich question wasn't asked of me.
[1:01:21] I mean, Dumbledore is gay.
[1:01:22] No, that's what I'm saying.
[1:01:23] The gay Dumbledore.
[1:01:24] Dumbledore.
[1:01:25] Dumbledorf goes fishing.
[1:01:27] There you go.
[1:01:28] So the magic is that he's standing on his knees.
[1:01:34] I made the lower half of my legs disappear through the power of shoes on knees.
[1:01:43] Through the power of kneeling.
[1:01:46] I made it a whole character.
[1:01:49] That's right.
[1:01:51] I watched those commercials all the time when I was a kid.
[1:01:54] And it wasn't until I was on a USO tour of Afghanistan.
[1:01:58] And we were in a USO recreation facility for soldiers and had 30 minutes to kill.
[1:02:05] And this huge selection of videos, and one of them was Dorf goes fishing.
[1:02:08] And we watched some of it.
[1:02:10] And it was the only time I'd ever really seen Dorf.
[1:02:12] And I was like, this is terrible.
[1:02:14] This is not what I was led to believe by all those commercials.
[1:02:18] The nonstop hilarity on display in those commercials.
[1:02:21] I expected better of Tim Connelly kneeling.
[1:02:23] They put all the good stuff in the commercials.
[1:02:26] Just like United Passions.
[1:02:28] Yeah.
[1:02:29] What am I selling a commercial for?
[1:02:31] That's why it failed.
[1:02:32] You don't read as many soccer blogs as I do, I guess.
[1:02:36] Dan, read us another letter, won't you?
[1:02:38] Put this back on the table.
[1:02:39] Yeah.
[1:02:40] So next in this delightful game that we're playing is from Rebecca, last name withheld.
[1:02:46] The movie.
[1:02:47] Who, De Mornay.
[1:02:49] It's titled...
[1:02:50] The first Mrs. De Winter.
[1:02:52] It's titled What the Fuck.
[1:02:55] It's a podcast.
[1:02:56] Stars Mark Harmon in summer school.
[1:03:05] She writes, this is not a letter, this is an email.
[1:03:09] Those goddamn songs have been a lie.
[1:03:12] And that's it.
[1:03:13] What?
[1:03:14] I mean, I wasn't singing about this letter.
[1:03:16] Speak to that.
[1:03:17] Speak to that.
[1:03:18] Yep.
[1:03:19] It holds up a real hand-me-down.
[1:03:20] You guys do get actual snail mail stuff sometimes, though.
[1:03:23] Yeah, we read one last episode.
[1:03:24] I just read some snail mails I got.
[1:03:26] Yeah.
[1:03:27] A mail from a snail.
[1:03:28] Let no one say the postal service isn't still amazing.
[1:03:30] Dear The Flophouse, can you please tell people to stop eating us and putting salt on me?
[1:03:36] Just because I'm a male and a female doesn't mean I can have sex with my snail.
[1:03:40] Love, a snail.
[1:03:43] A period snail.
[1:03:44] The A stands for Archibald.
[1:03:45] How much escargot do you think Gérard Depardieu ate before this movie was made?
[1:03:50] Before the movie?
[1:03:51] Like, through his whole life?
[1:03:52] No, no.
[1:03:53] In preparation.
[1:03:54] I don't know.
[1:03:55] In preparation?
[1:03:56] Yes.
[1:03:57] Like, he was studying?
[1:03:58] Yeah, he was studying.
[1:03:59] He's like, you know what the world needs is a fat Jules Rimet.
[1:04:02] Even though that's not a real thing.
[1:04:04] To play a FIFA executive, I must think like a FIFA executive, which I assume means eating delicious food all the time.
[1:04:10] Who wouldn't believe a man who's obsessed with soccer would be enormous and probably unable to play the game?
[1:04:15] I mean, the...
[1:04:17] I need to be slow and hard to not be slimy.
[1:04:21] I will have to eat snails to gain the power of the snails.
[1:04:25] I will create a shell out of human fat around my body and carry it with me like a house.
[1:04:31] I'll be able to retract into it at hard or stressful times in my life.
[1:04:35] Gerard, I don't think you understand how human bodies work.
[1:04:39] He just needs to eat enough so that it looks like he's retracting into the shell.
[1:04:43] Oh, now come now.
[1:04:45] He hasn't done it yet.
[1:04:46] He's a normal man.
[1:04:47] He just has large appetites.
[1:04:49] He's not a freak of nature.
[1:04:51] He's just a large man.
[1:04:53] What you're saying is bogus.
[1:04:55] It's the movie Bogus.
[1:04:57] Look, my father, the hero, would not stand for this.
[1:05:03] I'll have to give you a green card for this foul.
[1:05:06] Is that worse than a red card?
[1:05:08] It's way worse.
[1:05:10] It's a personal foul.
[1:05:11] A red card means stop doing what you're doing.
[1:05:13] A green card says go to jail.
[1:05:15] I'm sorry I even opened this door.
[1:05:18] To the last metro.
[1:05:20] I say Cyrano to you, sir.
[1:05:24] French movies that I don't remember right now.
[1:05:28] This last letter of the evening...
[1:05:30] Oh, I thought that was the last letter.
[1:05:32] From Riley, last name withheld.
[1:05:35] And she writes,
[1:05:39] I literally just woke up from a dream whereupon I was sitting with my...
[1:05:43] What?
[1:05:46] Just go on.
[1:05:47] It's an interesting way to start an email.
[1:05:49] I won't call them letters anymore.
[1:05:50] Sorry.
[1:05:51] I literally just woke up from a dream whereupon I was sitting with my three favorite peaches.
[1:05:56] Stuart turns on a film and it begins with a green field and blue sky.
[1:06:00] What is this, I ask.
[1:06:01] A small baby in a wagon pulls on screen.
[1:06:04] I don't remember what he said.
[1:06:05] I look up the film.
[1:06:07] Elliot.
[1:06:08] Oh, just wait.
[1:06:09] You'll see.
[1:06:10] And plot twist.
[1:06:12] The film is the only of the three recommendations of power I've not seen.
[1:06:16] Head of the Family.
[1:06:17] I don't know if Head of the Family starts this way,
[1:06:19] but I guess my subconscious thinks it does.
[1:06:22] What's weirder is I have my first flophouse dream off the back of three days of journalism
[1:06:26] in Syrian refugee camp on the island of coast Greece.
[1:06:30] All my best, Riley.
[1:06:33] Well, I'm pretty sure Head of the Family begins with a shot of a model house.
[1:06:41] Like a model house or a house that is a model?
[1:06:44] Like a house that's a model.
[1:06:45] A house where models live, like in the hit reality show Model House.
[1:06:49] Yeah, what Elliot said.
[1:06:51] It's a house that's filled with tiny models,
[1:06:54] models of, I don't know, hobbits, Boba Fetts.
[1:06:58] Like mini-figs.
[1:07:00] Yeah, mini-figs.
[1:07:01] A couple of Lego dudes, a tank.
[1:07:03] Is that like a fig that's not big enough to put in a Newton?
[1:07:10] That's right.
[1:07:11] At the quality control for Fig Newtons, they're like,
[1:07:15] this is not a Newton fig.
[1:07:17] Away with you.
[1:07:18] And they throw it into the Newton.
[1:07:21] It's like you're in FIFA or FIGFA.
[1:07:25] The FIG organization.
[1:07:27] Please.
[1:07:28] Come on.
[1:07:29] This is a serious organization.
[1:07:31] Sorry.
[1:07:32] So, Dan, how often is the federal?
[1:07:34] FIG is not for a cookie.
[1:07:41] FIGFA, the Federal Investigative General.
[1:07:46] Right.
[1:07:48] Whoa.
[1:07:49] Wow.
[1:07:50] Federal Investigative General.
[1:07:55] Football club?
[1:07:56] Fuck assembly.
[1:07:59] All right.
[1:08:00] I don't know what it does.
[1:08:01] I don't know, but I like the sound of it.
[1:08:03] So, Dan, when was the last time you had a dream where we were all in it?
[1:08:09] Including me.
[1:08:10] I don't think that's ever happened, honestly.
[1:08:12] What?
[1:08:13] I have dreams about you guys all the time.
[1:08:14] Really?
[1:08:15] We're hanging out.
[1:08:16] Just being really good friends.
[1:08:19] Have you ever had any dreams that just include me?
[1:08:22] Or nightmares?
[1:08:23] Whatever you want to call it.
[1:08:24] I don't know.
[1:08:25] Are you asking me?
[1:08:26] Both of you.
[1:08:27] Anybody.
[1:08:28] I'm sure I've been in dreams with Elliot.
[1:08:29] Maybe.
[1:08:30] I don't really remember many dreams that involve me.
[1:08:32] I've been your brother for three decades.
[1:08:33] There had to have been one somewhere.
[1:08:35] Maybe.
[1:08:36] I probably forgot.
[1:08:37] I mean, I remember very well the dream I had where Dan died.
[1:08:40] That was a terrible dream.
[1:08:41] Wow.
[1:08:42] Did you ever have a dream where you guys are arm wrestling?
[1:08:43] Way to make this sad.
[1:08:44] What?
[1:08:45] Are you just trying to get us to arm wrestle right now?
[1:08:46] Yes.
[1:08:48] There's only one way to find out if this is a dream or not.
[1:08:51] Just watch out.
[1:08:52] I might turn my hat around and go over the top.
[1:08:56] If only there was an arm wrestling committee that would decide if that's against the rules or not.
[1:09:00] There it is.
[1:09:07] We need a bunch of people with generic European accents to explain to us how to do this.
[1:09:12] Slap these old timey mustaches on.
[1:09:13] We're going to form this organization.
[1:09:16] Whether the English like it or not.
[1:09:21] The English are like, yeah, whatever.
[1:09:22] Have your arm wrestling.
[1:09:23] I don't care.
[1:09:25] So, guys, this is the part of the podcast where we do recommendations now.
[1:09:30] That's right, Stu.
[1:09:31] This is the part of the podcast where we…
[1:09:32] You're taking control.
[1:09:33] You're largely in charge.
[1:09:36] If it's up to us, we've got to take control.
[1:09:40] Ghostbusters 2.
[1:09:42] Wise man once said that.
[1:09:45] His name was Robert Brown.
[1:09:48] His name was Ghostbusters 2.
[1:09:55] This is where we recommend.
[1:09:57] As a wise man once said, they do what they want to do.
[1:10:00] I do play what they want to play live how they want to live that man's name
[1:10:04] Adam's family hammer the MC stands for Adam's family he threw people off the
[1:10:16] scent of his real name by using fake letters
[1:10:20] Wow yeah and yeah what MC he said his real initials were AF hammer Adams
[1:10:26] family hammer but he's like I don't want me to learn my real names then they'll
[1:10:29] have power over me because I'm a demon so I'll tell people my name is MC hammer
[1:10:34] I looked at a picture of MC Ganey he's like we look similar yeah they look
[1:10:41] pretty similar yeah to pull the stables out put that up there next to Stacey
[1:10:53] Keech Brian Dennehy is he also in this group of people
[1:11:21] you know James Gandolfini how do you have so many portly middle-aged actors
[1:11:26] like ready on recall instead of the movie that we wasted our time with
[1:11:41] thanks for considering time with me away Stan that's really cool
[1:11:44] oh boy man this is gonna make Thanksgiving awkward if it hadn't
[1:11:48] already happened and you're from different families but he still came to
[1:11:52] your Thanksgiving stop by afterwards yeah just for a peek behind the curtain
[1:11:56] and I'll hair of the turkey yeah I was gonna say the turkey was pretty good but
[1:12:04] I didn't know I had hair in it it was covered in hair that's disgusting
[1:12:07] thanks okay so I'm gonna recommend a movie that you should watch hey guys do
[1:12:21] you like soccer well why don't you pull up a movie called Shaolin soccer which
[1:12:28] is as different from the movie we just watched as any possible movie you'll
[1:12:33] ever watch Shaolin soccer is a I guess is it Chinese I guess I think it's
[1:12:40] Chinese yeah it's directed written and directed and starring Stephen Chow who
[1:12:45] is a I guess a Looney Tunes of a performer it is a martial arts movie
[1:12:51] that is filled with a ton of special effects where a young man joins the
[1:12:59] soccer team made up of all kung fu masters and they play against the evil
[1:13:04] team who use drugs to make them supernaturally good at soccer yeah it's
[1:13:10] a super crazy-ass movie you should totally watch it it's fast-paced it's
[1:13:13] funny it's filled with funny traditional Chinese nicknames where they'll call the
[1:13:20] the heavyweight guy the the heavyset guy fat so and things like that at least in
[1:13:25] the the subtitle version I want there's a lot of dancing I totally recommend it
[1:13:31] Shaolin soccer it's a fun movie I don't have to like soccer to watch it
[1:13:36] Shaolin what that helps what happens in it does not really resemble soccer very
[1:13:43] closely it's closer to soccer than this movie was I will give you that someone
[1:13:48] kicks a ball yeah and that there is somebody kicking a ball I mean kung fu
[1:13:53] I think it's also hard people's like clothes rip off so I think it's pretty
[1:13:58] accurate soccer for a lot of you know I played zap soccer and that used to
[1:14:03] happen a lot I want to recommend a movie it just like that's the concept they
[1:14:11] like I want to recommend a movie I'm contractually obligated to recommend a
[1:14:18] trailer for a TV show I watched a movie that I got one of the many award
[1:14:25] screeners I sat down and watched Steve Jobs you know I'll say I'll say this
[1:14:31] about the movie I think that it's hampered by high expectations the last
[1:14:35] time Aaron Sorkin wrote a movie about a tech wizard it was the social network
[1:14:40] and it was horrific and this is not that movie this is this is and there was
[1:14:48] I feel like there's a lot of expectations about this movie like yeah
[1:14:52] yeah he's a great director I think good stuff Oscars Oscars are a call that's
[1:15:01] what I that's what I was gonna say I feel like they thought that this was
[1:15:04] gonna be a big Oscar contender and then it sunk like a stone if you tie a stone
[1:15:09] to her she in this movie no but it she can still sink if you make her she's
[1:15:14] sure she sank like a Chris Rock like a regular avalanche what was that guy's
[1:15:22] name Bruce Blanche that's who it was he was the Bruce Blanche the third
[1:15:28] president of FIFA yeah I guess seven sorry time to write all those Academy
[1:15:32] quips but it's a fun movie I'll say this it's a it it's a movie that really feels
[1:15:38] like a play which is no surprise since Sorkin started out as a playwright but
[1:15:43] it's structured like a play it's basically Steve Jobs having
[1:15:47] conversations with the same sort of six figures that are important to his life
[1:15:53] minifigs and it like it's it's literally split into it's literally split into
[1:16:00] three acts and each of the axes before a big product launch in his career and he
[1:16:06] has conversations with the same six people at different times in his career
[1:16:10] and structurally that's kind of like fun to watch like it really is like
[1:16:14] watching a glossy Broadway play that's well turned but not very deep so if you
[1:16:23] want to watch sort of an entertaining thing that's a little like a chamber
[1:16:28] piece let's call it I enjoyed Steve Jobs you know the structure sounded
[1:16:33] interesting to me not interesting enough to get me to the old movie
[1:16:36] theater I mean I would like to watch it I'm more it's a weird I am going to it's
[1:16:41] a weirdly where I am more interested in the structure than the subject matter
[1:16:44] yeah like I don't find Steve Jobs to be that particularly interesting a person I
[1:16:49] just want to see if we can find out once and for all if Michael Fassbender is a
[1:16:52] better actor than Ashton Kutcher did make his own version of shame there's a
[1:17:02] season two-and-a-half men where Michael Fassbender was starring in it was a very
[1:17:06] dark season of that 70s show or as you get his character wore a giant paper
[1:17:13] mache head the whole time wasn't Android yeah this is your first time on
[1:17:29] the show this is time for you to recommend a movie oh man make the call
[1:17:34] well I was I'm fucking money ball because I've already I'm not gonna
[1:17:37] recommend money ball I was I was looking at money ball to mo money mobile I was
[1:17:43] looking at a damn good recommend mo money either cuz I've recommended that
[1:17:46] like 17 times I was looking at Dan because he looked at me like it's a treasure like
[1:17:50] Dave it's your turn but I wasn't sure I wasn't your belly was supposed to go
[1:17:56] first or what you know I'll go last okay I actually I have I have two movies
[1:18:01] because everybody including including these co-hosts everybody's expecting me
[1:18:07] to recommend something sports related so I'll give you that I guess two movies
[1:18:11] recommend yeah so the sports that's why we both have aprons that say Cailin's do
[1:18:17] it twice anyway the sports movie I recommend is a while back I watched a
[1:18:24] Netflix documentary called the battered bastards of baseball which is about a
[1:18:27] minor league team yeah it's about a minor league baseball team insurance
[1:18:34] outlawed it's about a minor league baseball team called the Portland
[1:18:37] Mavericks that played in the 1970s that was owned by Kurt Russell's dad and Kurt
[1:18:42] Kurt Russell played for them for a few years I think and it also had a couple
[1:18:46] of like major league castoffs like Jim Boughton was on the team he's he wrote
[1:18:51] ball for and he also invented big league chew if that's the sort of thing you're
[1:18:55] into it's pretty it's a pretty fun documentary because it's a bunch of
[1:19:07] crazy characters got a bunch of that's not why he invented it to make money and
[1:19:15] to give baseball players something to chew that wasn't tobacco anyway it's a
[1:19:20] fun I mean there's no reason they couldn't just shoot chewing gum it's a
[1:19:23] fun documentary but it also kind of shows how hypocritical major league
[1:19:26] baseball is to a certain degree it's pretty good that wasn't what I was gonna
[1:19:31] recommend but then everybody when I came here was like what sports movie do you
[1:19:33] have to recommend so that's that yes impression of us the movie I was going
[1:19:42] to recommend is is last week last week I I watched beasts of no nation which is
[1:19:52] not like fun to watch at all it's really disturbing so don't like watch it before
[1:19:56] you go to bed or something or if you wanna have a good time but it's pretty
[1:19:59] good
[1:20:00] If you want to have a good time, get up first thing in the morning, watch this movie about
[1:20:07] child soldiers in the Civil War, make some eggs, maybe start your day.
[1:20:13] It's pretty good, Idris Elba is really great in it, you should watch it, it's on Netflix,
[1:20:19] go do that.
[1:20:20] Prometheus' Idris Elba?
[1:20:21] Yeah.
[1:20:22] That's what he's best known for.
[1:20:23] Rumored Roland Deschain from the Dark Tower series, Idris Elba?
[1:20:29] No, that is a super topical.
[1:20:31] I thought his biggest role was in...
[1:20:34] Obsessed?
[1:20:35] Idris Elba?
[1:20:36] Heimdall from Thor?
[1:20:37] No, what was that movie with the giant robots, the Pacific Rim, yeah, that's his biggest...
[1:20:42] Packery?
[1:20:43] Yeah.
[1:20:44] Packery.
[1:20:45] That's what all the kids call it.
[1:20:46] That's what the fans call it, the members of PECFRA, the playing association for Pacific
[1:20:52] Rim.
[1:20:53] I'll recommend my movies, we're going long.
[1:20:55] Fucking, Elliot's gonna have to go super fast.
[1:20:58] I'm gonna recommend two movies that are about white people going to countries where non-white
[1:21:02] people live and doing stuff that's not so great to them.
[1:21:06] One's a new movie, one's an old movie.
[1:21:08] The new movie is...
[1:21:09] Man Who Would Be King?
[1:21:10] That is a great movie.
[1:21:11] Yeah, I think I've already recommended it.
[1:21:13] The new movie is Sicario, which is directed by that French director who did Prisoners,
[1:21:20] which I didn't love, but it looks great.
[1:21:23] Did you like Enemy?
[1:21:24] I haven't seen it.
[1:21:25] That's great.
[1:21:26] Sicario is...
[1:21:27] In one sense, it's about the drug war that the US is waging against Mexican gangs, but
[1:21:33] it is a very unrealistic movie that is dosed with a thick layer of realism, and so it actually
[1:21:42] is a really intense, intense movie.
[1:21:44] And there's some scenes in it that are just amazing for how intense and how hard they
[1:21:49] hit you, but then when you're done watching it, you're like, wait a minute, I don't know
[1:21:53] if that's really how the drug war operates.
[1:21:55] And Benicio Del Toro plays one of these kind of silent, mysterious assassin types in it,
[1:22:01] and he's really good at it.
[1:22:02] Yeah, he's pretty great.
[1:22:03] It's a great-looking movie.
[1:22:06] It's rare that I appreciate landscape shooting in a movie because it's pretty easy to take
[1:22:12] a camera and point it at a beautiful landscape, but they've managed to take some of the most
[1:22:17] kind of bleak landscapes on the North American continent and really make them look interesting
[1:22:23] and beautiful, so Sicario, if you want a grim and intense drug war thriller.
[1:22:28] If you're looking for something that's slightly lighter, I recently watched Beau Jest, the
[1:22:34] 1939 version of that story, which is a William Wellman movie with Gary Cooper and Ray Moland
[1:22:39] and Robert Preston, and it's the classic tale of three high-society Englishmen who—
[1:22:46] Just checking my email.
[1:22:47] Because this is a movie from the 30s, they all have—
[1:22:49] I like that you made a point to point out that it was the 1939 version.
[1:22:52] Yeah, there's more than one version of the movie.
[1:22:54] I'm not recommending those versions.
[1:22:56] I haven't seen them.
[1:22:57] I recommend the 1939 one, where it's about three brothers.
[1:23:01] One of them has stolen a big gem, and they all leave to join the French Foreign Legion
[1:23:10] as a way of keeping their honor, and they end up under the command of Brian Donlevy
[1:23:15] as this very sadistic commander of this Foreign Legion regiment,
[1:23:20] and he is amazingly horrifying and creepy in it.
[1:23:24] There's some great action scenes with shootouts with the Muslim nomadic tribes
[1:23:30] that are going through the area and fighting the French,
[1:23:32] and it's just a really good old-fashioned adventure-type movie,
[1:23:38] as long as you don't think about the fact that these guys are basically just volunteering
[1:23:41] to be part of a colonial force that really doesn't have much reason to be there.
[1:23:44] But Bojest, if you want more of an old-fashioned take on those things,
[1:23:48] Sicario, if we want a new-fashioned take on them.
[1:23:51] Okay.
[1:23:52] Wow, that was two, four, five, six movies recommended.
[1:23:56] Yeah.
[1:23:57] Two of them coming from each of the Kaelin brothers.
[1:24:00] What a surprise.
[1:24:01] You got your homework for next week.
[1:24:03] Christmas.
[1:24:04] Of course, I don't fucking remember.
[1:24:05] When did we put this movie—this podcast out?
[1:24:09] We were supposed to be making a movie.
[1:24:10] Oh, no.
[1:24:11] Jesus.
[1:24:12] This episode is the length of a film.
[1:24:14] Pretty low production costs.
[1:24:15] Every episode you guys have put out in the last, like, six months has been an hour and a half.
[1:24:20] We get all wrapped up talking about stupid garbage.
[1:24:23] Radio Zorks and whatnot.
[1:24:25] Now that Elliot's not complaining about his day job all the time,
[1:24:28] we've got room to stretch.
[1:24:30] It's true.
[1:24:31] Stretch it out.
[1:24:32] Stretching it out.
[1:24:35] Instead of having to rush home to go to sleep,
[1:24:37] he rushes home to sleep on a giant mountain of cocaine
[1:24:42] You clearly know my brother really well.
[1:24:44] He's a crazy party animal now.
[1:24:46] He is a wild partier.
[1:24:48] He has always loved cocaine.
[1:24:49] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:24:50] Always.
[1:24:51] Your eyes don't match your belly.
[1:24:54] I just remember in—
[1:24:55] I don't know what that even means.
[1:24:57] I like the idea that in your world you're swallowing all this cocaine.
[1:25:04] How are you supposed to eat it?
[1:25:06] That is like a scene from an 80s movie with, like, a Japanese character
[1:25:11] who keeps mistranslating American phrases.
[1:25:14] Instead of saying, my eyes are bigger than my stomach,
[1:25:16] he goes, oh, my eyes don't match my belly.
[1:25:19] I just like the idea—
[1:25:20] You'll try it, dude.
[1:25:21] It's raining squirrels and bears out there.
[1:25:24] I just like the idea of Elliot as a huge coke fiend,
[1:25:27] which is amazing if you—
[1:25:29] Like, Elliot, why don't you come over—
[1:25:31] Actually, the pastry dissolves.
[1:25:32] Elliot, why don't you watch this Buster Keaton movie with me?
[1:25:35] He's like, no, no, no.
[1:25:36] Fuck that guy.
[1:25:37] I gotta do more cocaine.
[1:25:38] You know what?
[1:25:39] I can do cocaine.
[1:25:40] He's got the energy of a coke fiend.
[1:25:41] That's true, yeah.
[1:25:42] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:25:44] A lot of zazz.
[1:25:45] It's just like—
[1:25:46] I'm nervous that if Elliot started taking too many uppers,
[1:25:49] he'd become the micromachine pitchman.
[1:25:55] Yeah, he's just talking about micromachines all the time.
[1:25:58] Yeah, you know Elliot's obsession with class cars, but small versions.
[1:26:02] Only when they're tiny.
[1:26:04] I don't want to drive them.
[1:26:05] I want to hold them in the palm of my hand.
[1:26:06] And he wears a jumpsuit everywhere he goes.
[1:26:08] And a cap.
[1:26:09] Mm-hmm.
[1:26:10] Can't get this mustache to where I want it.
[1:26:12] Well, you would have fit in in the movie, though,
[1:26:13] if you had a goofy mustache.
[1:26:14] Wait, there is a micromachines movie,
[1:26:16] and I'm just finding out about it?
[1:26:18] No, no, no.
[1:26:19] United Passions.
[1:26:20] If you had the micromachine guy's mustache—
[1:26:22] A wizard steals the micromachines guy's ability to fast talk.
[1:26:26] That would have made that movie way quicker.
[1:26:28] No, but he steals it.
[1:26:29] He talks slow now.
[1:26:30] He talks super slow.
[1:26:31] That's why the movie is seven hours long.
[1:26:33] Seven hours long.
[1:26:35] With an intermission, of course.
[1:26:37] The overture is performed by—
[1:26:38] Dancing Candy and stuff.
[1:26:40] I don't know.
[1:26:41] Glenn Dancing.
[1:26:46] There's a ten-minute overture that Glenn Dancing does.
[1:26:49] Okay, well, this is just nonsense now.
[1:26:51] We gotta wrap it up.
[1:26:52] Okay, so time to wrap it up for the Fluff House podcast.
[1:26:56] Thanks for joining us.
[1:26:59] You ran out of steam there, Steve.
[1:27:02] You dropped the whole rhythm of the thing.
[1:27:04] I've been Dan McCoy.
[1:27:05] I've been Stuart Wellington.
[1:27:07] I've been David, last name withheld.
[1:27:09] And I'm Elliot Kaelin, David's brother.
[1:27:11] Hooray for brothers!
[1:27:13] We did it!
[1:27:14] And soccer!
[1:27:15] Yeah!
[1:27:23] You guys can't keep making jokes while I have beer in my mouth.
[1:27:27] Thanks for calling those jokes.
[1:27:30] But really, they're just sounds.
[1:27:36] Classic Fluff House bit.
[1:27:38] Making mouth sounds.
[1:27:41] I would hang myself if I was here all the time, I think.
[1:27:44] With the three of you, I mean.
[1:27:46] I thought you would if you were Dan's roommate.
[1:27:48] Dan seems really nice.
[1:27:49] You let me have two beers for free.
[1:27:51] That's pretty good.
[1:27:52] I mean, some would say that's the least a host should provide.
[1:27:55] Ladies drink free.
[1:27:57] Others would say,
[1:27:58] I brought the beer, so Dan doesn't deserve anything.
[1:28:03] Dan, let me have some free beers from Stuart.
[1:28:05] I mean, I remind you to bring beers.
[1:28:07] Yeah, I guess you get half credit.
[1:28:10] You got the assist.
[1:28:12] Nice sports terms.
[1:28:14] Thanks.
[1:28:15] Mazel Tov.
[1:28:22] The three of you enter a cave of a big red dragon
[1:28:24] and is standing over a hoard of precious golden rubies.
[1:28:27] And he says,
[1:28:28] What do you do, adventurers?
[1:28:30] I'm a dragon man.
[1:28:31] I cast fire on him.
[1:28:32] It's very good.
[1:28:33] I address the red dragon and say,
[1:28:35] Us? We're the hosts of the Adventure Zone,
[1:28:37] a podcast about family playing Dungeons and Dragons.
[1:28:40] Very good synergy.
[1:28:41] Commit to the bit.
[1:28:42] I roll to charm new listeners.
[1:28:45] It is very effective.
[1:28:47] Against all odds.
[1:28:48] Hey, everybody.
[1:28:49] We're the Macroids.
[1:28:50] We host the Adventure Zones,
[1:28:51] a podcast where we play Dungeons and Dragons together.
[1:28:53] It's a comedy podcast.
[1:28:54] We don't take the rules too seriously
[1:28:55] because there's a lot of them
[1:28:56] and we did not take the time to learn them.
[1:28:58] Maybe listen to us.
[1:28:59] We come out every other Thursday
[1:29:00] on the Maximum Fun Network.
[1:29:01] You can find us on iTunes or on MaximumFun.org.
[1:29:04] I think this promo is a critical hit.

Description

On this episode we uncharacteristically talk sports, specifically futbol, as we watched the definitely-not-about-a-corrupt-organization FIFA film, United Passions. And who better to join us as we wade into these unfamiliar waters than sports expert and Flop House nemesis, David Kalan.  Elliott introduces us to the American Bean Council mascot, Stuart coins an all-new word, Dan instructs you on sportsball Fisher Stevens cosplay, and David tells us a fascinating story about Executive Decision.

Movies recommended in this episode:

Shaolin SoccerSteve JobsThe Battered Bastards of BaseballBeasts of No NationSicarioBeau Geste

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