Ep.#290 - Meatballs Part II

Stuart Wellington

[0:00] On this episode we discuss Meatballs Part 2.

[0:05] We are reviewing a movie this week, not the food.

Elliott Kalan

[0:10] Not the second meatball of I assume three to four meatballs in your spaghetti plate.

[0:15] We apologize for any misunderstandings.

[0:30] We are reviewing a movie this week, not the food.

[1:00] So for future historians, you'll know I recorded this the day after my brother's wedding, the date of which has been lost to history.

Stuart Wellington

[1:06] And I'm currently excited that because he just got married, it's unlikely he'll just show up on this podcast.

Elliott Kalan

[1:12] I mean, not tonight. I mean, he's going on his honeymoon.

Dan McCoy

[1:15] You think he's just going to wander in the door like every other episode?

[1:18] Like Kramer?

[1:19] Yeah, when he was unattached.

Stuart Wellington

[1:20] Well, I pop out of a toilet like a ghoulie.

[1:23] And let's talk about the opposite of ghoulies.

Elliott Kalan

[1:30] I gave you a marriage segue.

[1:32] I'm staying away with the ghoulies segue.

Dan McCoy

[1:36] I hope that I'll put that on your anniversary card to your wife.

[1:42] You'll be clear why I'm bringing up her in a moment.

[1:44] You'll say the opposite of ghoulies.

[1:46] My love for you.

Stuart Wellington

[1:47] Yeah.

[1:47] On Valentine's Day, the ground outside my apartment is littered with candy hearts that have been tossed away

[1:52] because it does not feature the you are not a ghoulie.

[1:56] So joining us today is a special guest.

[1:58] That's right.

[1:59] It's my wife, owner of multiple bars in Brooklyn, taker of multiple improv classes.

[2:07] That's Charlene Wellington.

[2:09] And Flophouse Road Manager.

[2:10] Oh, and Flophouse Road Manager, which keeps these cats in order.

[2:14] Hi, guys.

[2:15] Hi, Charlene.

[2:16] How are you doing, Charlene?

S4

[2:16] Thanks for joining us.

[2:17] Thanks for having me.

[2:19] It's been a while.

[2:20] It has been.

[2:21] Always.

Elliott Kalan

[2:23] Yeah, I mean, I guess, yeah, I mean.

[2:27] The longest while.

S4

[2:28] I feel like Lucy trying to get Ricky to let me in the show, finally.

Stuart Wellington

[2:33] That's a reference that I don't get because I am a young, hip, cool millennial.

[2:38] Make it about Younger, please.

[2:39] The only show Stuart's familiar with.

[2:41] Yes, please.

[2:42] And the best show.

[2:44] Oh, see, Charlene's just revealed that this is a backdoor pilot attempt.

[2:48] A second backdoor pilot attempt for Stuart's Younger cast.

[2:53] Listen to previous episodes of the show, if you're a first-time listener, to get that joke.

Elliott Kalan

[2:58] Previous episodes?

[2:59] The Sharon Tate episode.

[3:00] It's the only one.

[3:01] Okay.

[3:02] And also that joke.

[3:04] It's just that you like Younger.

[3:05] That's what it is.

Stuart Wellington

[3:07] So, before we get into why Charlene picked Meatballs 2 for us to watch, Dan, what do we do on this podcast?

Dan McCoy

[3:16] This is a podcast where you watch a bad movie and then we talk about it.

[3:20] Usually we do something that's newer.

[3:23] Let's say new to home.

[3:24] I would say home video, but it's all streaming these days.

[3:27] So, home formats, I guess.

[3:30] Home viewing.

[3:30] Yeah.

[3:32] But when we have a guest on, we like to give them the option to say, to throw us a curveball or do something that they want to do.

Elliott Kalan

[3:38] I have a question for Charlene.

[3:40] Sure.

[3:40] Knowing that this is about watching a bad movie and talking about it, what drove you to be on the show?

[3:46] To waste your time watching some movie and then yammering with us?

S4

[3:50] Well, I watched some of the movies with Stuart, although I had to try to be a professional and not fall asleep.

[3:57] Well, then Dan is not a professional.

[4:00] Never claimed to be.

[4:01] Me neither, because I fell asleep.

[4:03] But I woke up and finished watching the movie.

[4:06] But I basically just wanted to see what you guys do.

[4:10] Here's Dan's apartment.

[4:13] Make sure that we're actually in the podcast.

Elliott Kalan

[4:16] Everyone has pants on.

[4:17] I can't believe it.

[4:18] She thought this was just an excuse for us to go see our Goomars, but no.

[4:23] We're actually doing it.

[4:24] It's Goomar?

Stuart Wellington

[4:25] Yeah.

[4:26] Not like, I always assume.

[4:28] It's Goomar.

[4:29] Yeah.

[4:30] So that's with an R and not a D.

[4:32] Not a D.

[4:32] Like Galamar.

[4:33] Yeah.

[4:34] There's no D in Galamar?

[4:37] I don't know.

[4:38] What have I been putting in my mouth?

Dan McCoy

[4:40] I feel like this is a question we need to ask famous Facebook bad Italian comic strip Joey Calbrazi for the answer to this.

Stuart Wellington

[4:49] For a second.

[4:50] So wait, are you introducing him?

Elliott Kalan

[4:52] Is he having an excuse?

[4:53] No, no, no.

[4:54] He's not.

[4:55] Yes.

[4:56] And Charlene, I think all the floppers out there wondering, what's it like to be married to an original peach?

[5:02] Wow.

S4

[5:04] It's like...

Elliott Kalan

[5:05] Tell us something embarrassing.

S4

[5:09] Stuart's turning so many shades of red.

[5:11] It's like bliss all the time.

[5:14] Stuart makes me breakfast every single morning.

[5:17] Whoa.

[5:18] What a darling.

[5:19] Yeah.

[5:20] He's not a party animal.

[5:25] You're blowing up his spot.

[5:27] Oh, man.

[5:28] Oh, no.

Stuart Wellington

[5:29] It's crumbling.

S4

[5:31] That's why he wouldn't let me on the show.

Stuart Wellington

[5:34] So today we watched the movie, or whatever.

[5:39] For this episode, we're reviewing the movie Meatballs Part 2 from, what, 1984?

Elliott Kalan

[5:42] Now, is it Meatballs Part 2 or just Meatballs 2?

[5:45] It is Meatballs Part 2.

Stuart Wellington

[5:46] Because Meatballs...

[5:46] Specifically Meatballs Part 2.

Elliott Kalan

[5:48] It implies a direct continuation from the first Meatballs.

[5:51] Well, that's an interesting...

Stuart Wellington

[5:52] Multiple chapters of one greater story.

Elliott Kalan

[5:55] The Meatballs epic.

[5:56] And also, I don't know that I've ever seen the first Meatballs, so why is it called Meatballs, guys?

Dan McCoy

[6:01] Now, if I may, could I take a moment to talk about the Meatballs series?

[6:05] Please.

[6:05] It feels like I gave you exactly the untrue way to do that.

Elliott Kalan

[6:08] Walk through it, or do you want to make a Ghoulies reference first?

[6:11] And kind of sidestep to what we're going on.

Dan McCoy

[6:13] The original Meatballs was this low-budget film about a camp, a summer camp.

Elliott Kalan

[6:18] Two brothers were opening an Italian restaurant.

[6:21] You're thinking of Big Night.

[6:22] Oh, what's the one?

[6:24] Oh, it's Heath Ledger, and he's like, the first knight?

Dan McCoy

[6:27] I think that's the literal name of the thing.

[6:30] Oh, okay.

Elliott Kalan

[6:31] Then, you know what?

[6:32] Oh, maybe that's The Knight's Tale.

[6:33] The first knight's tale.

Dan McCoy

[6:34] The First Knight's Tale.

[6:34] Sean Connery and Richard Peters.

[6:36] Okay, well, anyway, the point is Meatballs was this little movie.

[6:40] I think it was Canadian produced.

[6:42] It was like Ivan Reitman directed it, I think, and that might have been his first movie.

[6:46] But the point is-

[6:46] I love that you're like, let me talk about the Meatballs series.

[6:49] Anyway, I don't know.

[6:50] I'm a little fussy on this part.

[6:51] I'm a little fussy on this part.

Stuart Wellington

[6:52] But it's this little-

[6:55] It's like a guy who doesn't understand how, say, a piece of food, like maybe a meatball,

[7:00] would be made.

[7:00] He just knows how it tastes when it hits his mouth and tummy.

Dan McCoy

[7:02] It's this little 1980s summer camp comedy that would be forgotten if not for Bill Murray,

[7:10] who, like, this was his first major Hollywood comedy movie role, starring role.

[7:16] And he came in, he basically-

Elliott Kalan

[7:19] One thing just, you said it was a little kind of low-budget Canadian movie,

[7:23] and suddenly this is his first big Hollywood starring role.

[7:27] All right.

[7:27] You know, maybe Mrs. Columbo maybe could understand it,

[7:30] but I don't know.

[7:31] I'll be both of those things.

[7:32] I'm just making fun of your word choices.

[7:34] I get it.

[7:34] It's the movie that made him a movie star.

Dan McCoy

[7:36] It is Ivan Reitman.

[7:37] But he came in and he, like, basically improvised a lot of his lines.

[7:42] Like, they threw out a lot of the scripts when they saw, like,

[7:45] what was working about the movie was Bill Murray and his relationship to this one, like,

[7:49] sort of, like, kid that needed guidance and, like, that brought the humor and the heart to the Meatballs movie.

[7:56] And so it was a minor success.

[7:59] Certainly, like, a good return on the investment.

[8:01] Now, Meatballs 2 was an unrelated summer camp script that, after Meatballs became a success,

[8:08] they acquired the rights-

[8:09] They Cloverfielded it.

[8:11] to the Meatballs name.

[8:13] And so they made this movie.

[8:15] Now, Meatballs 3-

Stuart Wellington

[8:17] Is that the one with the ghost of the porn star?

Dan McCoy

[8:19] Yes.

[8:19] Yep.

[8:20] The Meatballs series had been a PG series up until number 3,

[8:23] when it became an R-rated series,

[8:24] where Sally Kellerman played the ghost of a porn star helping a kid get laid.

[8:29] And then Meatballs-

S4

[8:30] But it was also PG in the 70s, which is different than your current-

[8:33] That's true.

[8:33] It's still a lot of-

[8:34] It's still some swearing and a lot of homophobia.

Stuart Wellington

[8:37] Yeah.

[8:37] Back in the day, a PG movie could feature a werewolf surfing on top of a van,

[8:42] and nobody would bat an eye.

[8:43] Now that would be-

Elliott Kalan

[8:44] You'd see, it would say, rated R for werewolf van surfing.

[8:47] I mean, there wasn't-

[8:48] There was a period where, like, even PG comedies in the 80s,

[8:51] they're like, gotta throw some boobs in there, you know?

Dan McCoy

[8:53] Oh, I've-

[8:54] Come to my-

[8:54] It's part of the human body.

Elliott Kalan

[8:56] I don't know what everyone's so mad about.

Dan McCoy

[8:57] Come to our late live show in Boston,

[8:59] and there may be a presentation about it done by one me.

Elliott Kalan

[9:02] So you can write off all the stuff you've been watching as business expense?

[9:05] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[9:06] But just to close it out, Meatballs 4 starred Corey Feldman.

[9:10] It's a good story.

[9:11] Was also a sex comedy, a lot of nudity in that.

[9:14] From what I understand, I have not seen it.

Stuart Wellington

[9:17] Oh, wow.

[9:18] But in my research-

Dan McCoy

[9:19] But on the message boards you frequent.

[9:20] In my research boards.

[9:22] But in my research, that was also not supposed to be a Meatballs movie.

[9:28] Another unrelated script that they just left the Meatballs name on.

[9:30] That's kind of what they do with the Howling movies, I think, too.

[9:33] Because the Meatballs name carries so much weight at this point.

Elliott Kalan

[9:38] And having mentioned the Meatballs name again,

[9:40] so why is it called Meatballs?

[9:42] Because, like, I went to summer camp.

[9:45] I mean, I'm sure they served us meatballs at some point,

[9:47] but I was never like, hey, you know what's so special about the summer camp experience?

[9:51] The Meatballs.

Stuart Wellington

[9:51] So, Charlene, you have a history with the Meatballs franchise.

S4

[9:59] I remember loving the original Meatballs movie,

[10:03] and kind of, like, I remember being a little kid and looking forward to my first-

Stuart Wellington

[10:07] So can you tell us why it's called Meatballs, please?

[10:09] No.

S4

[10:11] But looking forward to, like, I'm going to go to summer camp in three years.

[10:15] I'm going to go to sleepaway camp in two years.

[10:17] And, like, using that as a guide for what's going to happen when I go to camp.

[10:21] Oh, yeah.

[10:22] So I was, like, a little bit afraid of all the pranks.

Elliott Kalan

[10:26] Yeah.

[10:27] They don't seem to have a lot of activities at the camp.

[10:29] It's mostly just pranks and, like, free-floating kid walking around time.

[10:33] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[10:33] I think it's a perfect time to get into this little plot here.

[10:36] Yeah, tell us, Stuart, what happens in this movie, Meatballs Part 2,

[10:39] the continuing story of the meatballs.

[10:41] So Meatballs Part 2 opens, of course, with the TriStar logo.

Elliott Kalan

[10:46] It opens in media res on top of spaghetti, all covered with cheese.

Stuart Wellington

[10:53] Yeah, yeah.

[10:54] There's a bunch of detectives standing around being like,

[10:56] where's that poor meatball?

Elliott Kalan

[10:59] Now, I'm glad you mentioned the TriStar logo,

[11:01] only because it's one of my favorite movie logos.

[11:03] Yeah, it's great.

[11:03] Every time I hear that music on the flying horse.

[11:06] Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum.

[11:06] And it really brings me back to being a kid.

Stuart Wellington

[11:09] Anything with a flying horse,

[11:10] as long as there isn't a Perseus on the back of it, I'm down.

[11:13] Okay.

[11:15] So we then...

[11:16] No Perseuses allowed.

[11:18] So we then cut to another production logo,

[11:21] and this one's a little bit of a little dig.

[11:23] A space production.

[11:25] That's the first time the movie winks at the audience to let you know

[11:29] this movie is going to be out of this world.

[11:34] Put it on the box.

[11:36] Out of this world.

[11:37] Stuart Wellington, the blog.

[11:38] Okay.

[11:38] Now we open in media res in a bus full of rowdy campers,

[11:44] and we realize that this bus is traveling to Camp Sasquatch.

[11:47] Now, is that the camp from the first Meatballs movie?

Elliott Kalan

[11:50] I'm going to guess no if it was...

[11:53] Probably not.

[11:53] We'll be looking up.

[11:54] So you should mention...

Stuart Wellington

[11:55] While you're doing that detective work.

Elliott Kalan

[11:57] You want to mention the song Waiting for the Summer?

Stuart Wellington

[11:59] I can't stop singing Waiting for the Summer.

[12:02] It is obviously a hit song.

[12:06] It goes a little something like this.

[12:07] It's not the same song from Meatballs 1.

[12:08] It isn't...

[12:08] No.

[12:09] I mean, that's crazy that they would save a gem like this for the sequel,

[12:12] but I guess they did.

Dan McCoy

[12:13] By the way, the original...

[12:14] Sorry.

[12:14] The original camp and Meatballs one was Camp North Star.

[12:17] We could carry on with the song.

[12:18] Oh, Sasquatch is better.

Stuart Wellington

[12:20] So the song goes a little something like this.

[12:23] Okay.

Elliott Kalan

[12:26] Was that your version of a pitch pipe?

[12:27] Yeah, yeah.

[12:28] It sounded like...

[12:29] Thank you, Charlotte.

[12:31] That is little of the sounds that ice cream tasters make,

[12:33] because I saw a video of it.

[12:35] You have to taste the note in your mouth before you sing it.

[12:38] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[12:38] There's a video online of a guy doing an ice cream taste,

[12:40] and he's going...

[12:41] Sweet.

Stuart Wellington

[12:44] Bold, tangy.

Elliott Kalan

[12:46] And he's just...

[12:46] It's hilarious.

[12:47] It's like he's trying to call a cat to him to lick the ice cream off his face.

[12:49] Yeah.

[12:50] So the song...

[12:50] So it goes...

Stuart Wellington

[12:52] Waiting for the summer,

[12:55] Waiting and I'm waiting,

[12:56] Funning and I'm sunning,

[12:57] Funning and I'm summer,

[12:59] Babes and I'm babes.

Elliott Kalan

[13:01] They say,

[13:02] We've been waiting for the summer all year long.

[13:04] We've been waiting for the summer to sing this song.

[13:06] And I'm like,

[13:07] Did I write this song?

[13:08] And you're like...

[13:09] The swimming and the women and the climbing and the grimming.

Stuart Wellington

[13:12] You're like,

[13:13] When are we going to get to the summer?

[13:14] Is that like the tallest building in Philadelphia over here?

Elliott Kalan

[13:16] Oh!

[13:18] Okay.

Stuart Wellington

[13:19] So...

[13:20] Who's driving that rowdy bus?

[13:21] Of course,

[13:22] That is future star Paul Rubens wearing an aviator cap.

[13:25] So you know,

[13:26] This guy is a little bit wacky.

[13:29] The kids are rowdy.

[13:30] He gets mad.

[13:31] They almost crash,

[13:31] Etc.

[13:33] The bus is pulled over by a police car.

[13:36] You think it's for driving,

[13:37] But no,

[13:38] The bus pulls them over because they are handing off a juvenile delinquent by the name of Flash,

[13:45] Who has been ordered by order of a judge to serve out a sentence as a CIT,

[13:51] Which we learned is a counselor in training.

[13:53] I think he says it was either this or the military.

[13:54] Now,

[13:55] I...

[13:55] Or maybe prison.

[13:56] Wait,

[13:57] Who is...

[13:57] Sorry.

[13:58] Flash the Bash.

[13:58] Oh,

[13:59] Yeah.

[13:59] The hero of the film.

[14:00] I believe they gave a similar...

[14:02] I believe in the original script for Watchmen,

[14:04] They gave Rorschach the same...

[14:06] Herm,

Elliott Kalan

[14:07] I guess I'll take the summer camp.

[14:10] You kids don't understand.

[14:11] You're not stuck here with me.

[14:13] I'm stuck here with you.

[14:14] Isn't it the other way around, Rorschach?

[14:15] No,

[14:15] I'm not happy to be here.

[14:17] Herm,

[14:18] I can't float on my back,

[14:19] So I'm a beginner.

[14:20] I guess I'll blow bubbles through my mask in the water.

[14:23] Now,

[14:23] This is...

Dan McCoy

[14:24] This may be ridiculous.

[14:26] I'm sorry.

[14:26] I can see you want to say that.

Elliott Kalan

[14:28] Rorschach's like,

[14:29] It's like,

[14:30] It's color war,

[14:31] Rorschach,

[14:31] We didn't have to murder the other campers.

[14:34] War is war.

Dan McCoy

[14:36] This may seem ridiculous for a movie like Meatballs 2

[14:39] to raise any objections to the logic of the film,

[14:42] but this is the first time when I'm like,

[14:43] Is this a thing that people get sentenced to be a camp counselor?

[14:50] No.

S4

[14:50] We're going to put you in charge of some children.

[14:52] It's either go to jail or be the only person in charge of these children.

Stuart Wellington

[14:58] Jail,

[14:59] please.

[15:00] And this delinquent flash is kind of like a Brooklyn-y, like Chachi type.

[15:05] He's kind of like a Chachi.

[15:06] Yeah, so at that point I'm like,

[15:07] Now I know why Charlene wanted to watch this movie.

[15:10] He's a real Danny Zuko.

[15:11] Although,

[15:12] throughout the rest of the movie,

Dan McCoy

[15:13] people repeatedly call him a dork,

[15:16] which I object to,

[15:18] because he's clearly not a dork.

[15:19] No,

Stuart Wellington

[15:19] He's a greaser punk.

[15:21] As he explains to them,

[15:22] I'm not a dork,

[15:23] I'm Italian.

S4

[15:25] I believe that was the first time the phrase dork was used in a movie.

[15:28] Oh, wow.

[15:28] Don't look it up.

Elliott Kalan

[15:30] Why should we start being accurate about anything?

[15:33] By the way,

Dan McCoy

[15:33] I confirmed that the first Meatballs is where that irritating other,

[15:38] that summer song comes from.

[15:39] Oh, is it?

[15:39] Are you ready for the summer?

[15:40] You confirmed you went to your sources?

Elliott Kalan

[15:42] Are you ready for the good times?

[15:44] Exactly.

[15:45] Now what I like,

[15:46] I want to mention here is,

[15:47] so Flash meets his friend Eddie,

[15:49] who was,

[15:49] I guess,

[15:50] already going to be in camp.

[15:51] Yeah.

[15:51] And he's like,

[15:52] Flash,

[15:52] Flash the Bash.

[15:54] And then later on a character calls Flash Bash,

[15:56] and he's like,

[15:56] the name's Flash.

[15:57] And I kept being like,

[15:58] but your friend called you that earlier.

[16:01] Well,

[16:01] is that just like,

[16:02] it's okay for other,

[16:03] like,

[16:03] grease,

[16:04] grease,

[16:04] not just bash.

Stuart Wellington

[16:06] Flash and Eddie are that special type of teenage camp counselor

[16:09] that are played by 30 year old men

[16:11] who smoke cigarettes all the time.

[16:13] We're also introduced to,

[16:15] uh,

[16:16] two young women who are going to camp.

[16:18] One who is kind of demure,

[16:20] dressing like an Amish person named Cheryl.

[16:22] And her friend,

[16:23] who's a little more outspoken,

[16:24] named Nancy.

[16:26] Nancy asked Cheryl,

[16:27] are you from outer space?

[16:29] But that would be crazy,

[16:30] because there's no way this movie set in a summer camp

[16:32] would feature a character from outer space.

[16:34] Oh boy.

[16:35] That would be ridiculous.

[16:36] Now I'm going to,

Dan McCoy

[16:36] I'm going to chime in with a lot of details about these actors

[16:38] as we go along.

[16:39] This is a new thing for you.

Elliott Kalan

[16:41] I want to say that.

[16:42] I like it,

[16:42] but it's new.

[16:43] I don't want Charlene to think that this usually happens.

[16:46] Now this demure.

Stuart Wellington

[16:46] Is it real like microchip,

[16:48] or what's the,

[16:49] what's the character from the Arrow TV show

[16:51] with the,

[16:52] the paralyzed,

[16:53] oh whatever.

[16:53] Oracle.

[16:54] Oracle,

[16:55] maybe.

Elliott Kalan

[16:55] Is it?

[16:56] I don't watch Arrow,

[16:57] but Oracle would fulfill that role

[16:59] in the DC universe.

[17:00] Barbara Gordon.

Stuart Wellington

[17:01] Uh,

[17:01] this,

[17:01] does that mean I have to break dance back

[17:03] so that he can do this role?

[17:04] Technically,

Elliott Kalan

[17:05] shoot her in the spine

[17:06] in a comic book

[17:06] that probably should not have been made part

[17:08] of the Batman canon.

Dan McCoy

[17:09] Yeah.

[17:10] It's not really appropriate for all ages.

[17:12] So this demure lady

[17:13] is played by Kim Richards,

[17:15] who was a child actress,

[17:17] who I saw many times as a kid

[17:18] in Escape to Witch Mountain,

[17:20] which played on Disney Channel all the time.

[17:21] Wait,

[17:22] Escape to Witch Mountain?

[17:23] Oh boy.

Elliott Kalan

[17:25] Who's not having Costello Disney

[17:26] in the 1970s routine?

[17:28] Uh,

[17:28] she had some,

[17:29] Escape to Witch Mountain.

[17:30] That's what I'm trying to say.

[17:32] Yeah,

[17:32] that's what I want to know.

Dan McCoy

[17:33] She had some,

[17:34] some small success as an adult actress,

[17:36] mostly known as a child actress,

[17:37] but now mostly known,

[17:37] what?

[17:38] Because she's one of the real housewives.

Elliott Kalan

[17:40] Oh,

[17:40] really?

[17:41] Of which,

[17:41] of Beverly Hills.

[17:42] Oh.

[17:44] Oh,

[17:45] how far the mighty have fallen.

[17:47] He falls to.

[17:48] To being on one of the most successful

Stuart Wellington

[17:49] television franchises currently operating.

[17:52] Uh,

[17:53] yeah.

[17:53] Is she one of the ones that are in jail?

Elliott Kalan

[17:56] Oh,

[17:56] okay.

[17:56] Well,

[17:56] Dan's research only takes us so far.

[17:59] He got most of that from a shoeshine boy

[18:01] that he paid five bucks to.

Stuart Wellington

[18:03] Yeah,

[18:03] yeah,

[18:03] this is,

[18:04] uh,

[18:04] it's like Sherlock Holmes'

[18:05] Homeless Network.

[18:06] He said he'd keep his ears open

Elliott Kalan

[18:07] for more information about Cheryl.

[18:09] Uh,

[18:09] what,

[18:10] and what character are we also introduced to

[18:11] in a very,

[18:12] in like a race,

[18:13] action race?

Stuart Wellington

[18:13] Oh,

[18:14] okay,

[18:14] so at this point,

[18:15] the hit song starts back up again.

[18:17] You're like,

[18:18] oh man,

[18:19] you're just,

[18:19] you knew that it was like,

[18:20] it was like the beat drop for a second

[18:22] or it was like the moment right before

[18:23] the slams kick in

[18:24] in a brutal death metal song.

[18:26] Um,

[18:26] so in the,

[18:27] the,

[18:27] the bus is outpaced

[18:29] by a lone masked figure

[18:31] riding in a motorized wheelchair,

[18:33] a wheelchair that has a bumper sticker

[18:35] on the back that says,

[18:36] wheelchairs need room to zoom.

[18:40] I don't know where that's from.

[18:42] Uh,

[18:42] and then we are,

S4

[18:43] I have backstory on that actor.

[18:45] Okay.

[18:47] And I don't have my phone in front of me.

Dan McCoy

[18:49] Sitting around trading tails

[18:50] with big balls to actors.

S4

[18:52] That's the kid that played little Earl.

[18:54] There was a little Earl

[18:55] and big Earl

[18:56] on what's happening.

[18:57] And he was the kid

[18:58] that used to hit on D.

[19:00] Oh.

[19:00] And he would be like,

[19:01] he would like wink at her.

[19:02] Oh,

[19:03] you can't see that I'm like moving my elbow.

[19:03] No,

[19:04] she's nudging her elbows right now.

[19:06] He would wink at her

[19:07] and he would be like,

[19:08] you and me.

[19:09] And you know,

[19:09] she would be like,

[19:10] scram kid.

Elliott Kalan

[19:11] And of course,

[19:12] later we'll meet the older brother

[19:13] from the Wonder Years

[19:14] who's just one of the,

[19:14] one of the kids.

[19:15] And of course,

[19:16] I've got an interesting Paul Rubin story

[19:18] as long as we're trading stories.

[19:19] It seems he decided to go out

[19:21] and catch a flick

[19:22] at a local theater.

[19:23] What?

[19:24] This was not your,

[19:25] Do a spin a tail.

[19:26] It's not an ordinary type of film.

[19:27] There he is,

[19:29] his popcorn in one hand

[19:30] and a probably generously sized soda

[19:32] in the other.

[19:33] And he decided that he would

[19:34] free his hands,

[19:35] for a little bit of

[19:36] extracurricular activity.

[19:39] Anyway,

[19:40] sorry Stuart.

Stuart Wellington

[19:43] Was that before they had

[19:44] like little,

[19:45] little spots with your soda

[19:47] and popcorn

[19:48] on the armrest?

[19:49] Here's the interesting thing.

[19:50] So he had to put them on the ground?

Elliott Kalan

[19:51] He had to put,

[19:51] well he had to put the soda around

[19:52] and he had to put the popcorn

[19:53] in his lap.

[19:54] Okay.

[19:54] Was there a hole

[19:55] in the bottom of the popcorn?

[19:56] Apparently there was

[19:57] and that's where the trouble begins.

[19:59] They apparently gave him

[20:00] a popcorn bucket

[20:01] with a hole in it.

[20:03] And apparently his pants

[20:04] were particularly weak

[20:05] and perhaps worn through

[20:08] by all of the stunts

[20:10] and shenanigans

[20:10] that he does in his playhouse.

Stuart Wellington

[20:11] When he saw the menu

[20:13] and it offered

[20:14] bottomless popcorn bucket,

[20:16] he thought nothing of it.

[20:18] He assumed it was just

[20:18] going to be unlimited popcorn

[20:19] but in fact it wasn't.

[20:20] He said,

Elliott Kalan

[20:21] oh I love free refills.

[20:22] I do,

[20:22] I must say,

[20:23] because he loves

[20:24] Ed Grimley Jr.

[20:25] and he was always

[20:26] quoting Ed Grimley Jr.

[20:27] in his spare time.

[20:28] That's very strange

Dan McCoy

[20:29] because some might say

[20:30] he's sort of a lower budget version

[20:33] of his popular character,

[20:35] Pee Wee Herman.

[20:35] And I think that's why

Elliott Kalan

[20:36] he felt like a real

[20:37] connection to it.

[20:39] There was the funniest thing

[20:40] I ever saw Pee Wee Herman do

[20:41] and I'm a big Pee Wee Herman fan.

[20:42] I loved his show as a kid.

Stuart Wellington

[20:44] Are you going to say

[20:45] fart in the face

[20:46] of Jeffrey Rush Oscar winner?

[20:47] That's not what I was going to say.

[20:49] When did he do that?

[20:51] In Mystery Men.

[20:54] Oh right,

[20:54] I forgot about that.

[20:55] That was Pee Wee Herman's

[20:55] follow up role

[20:56] to the one that won him

[20:57] an Academy Award.

[20:58] Is that true?

Elliott Kalan

[20:59] That it was right after Shine?

[21:00] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[21:01] Oh okay.

[21:01] Oh boy.

Stuart Wellington

[21:02] When he plays Casanova Frank,

Elliott Kalan

[21:04] it's not a mystery.

[21:04] It just shows that he has

[21:05] a lot of range.

[21:06] That Pee Wee Herman,

[21:07] or Paul Reyes,

[21:07] I should say,

[21:08] he was a quick fire judge

[21:10] on Top Chef once

[21:12] I love pancakes.

[21:13] Let's make me some pancakes.

[21:15] And he goes to the first person

[21:16] and judge and the first chef

[21:18] these are without a doubt

[21:19] the greatest pancakes

[21:20] I've ever had.

[21:21] And they're like,

[21:21] oh thank you.

[21:22] And he goes to the next people

[21:23] and tries and goes,

[21:23] these are without a doubt

[21:24] the greatest pancakes

[21:26] I've ever had.

[21:27] And he said it to every

[21:28] single chef.

[21:29] And by the end,

[21:30] they were like,

[21:30] just get it,

[21:31] just say it,

[21:31] whatever.

[21:32] He was so shitting

[21:34] all over the whole concept

[21:35] of them competing

[21:36] in pancakes.

[21:37] But okay,

[21:38] so,

[21:39] they get to camp,

[21:40] right?

Stuart Wellington

[21:40] So we watch a bus

[21:41] try and outrace

[21:42] a wheelchair

[21:43] to no avail.

[21:45] We get to the camp,

[21:46] we get to Camp Sasquatch

[21:47] and that's when

[21:48] Stewart got very excited

[21:49] because star of Empty Nest himself,

[21:52] Richard Mulligan comes out.

[21:54] Yeah,

[21:54] he is great.

[21:55] As the head of the camp,

[21:58] Giddy?

[21:59] Giddy.

[21:59] Was he in the first movie?

[22:01] Since,

[22:01] as Dan said,

[22:02] this is an unrelated film.

[22:03] I think he's the Bill Murray.

Elliott Kalan

[22:05] I have to assume he is,

[22:06] he was named,

[22:07] he was,

[22:08] he was,

[22:09] he has kind of a prophecy

[22:10] named for the catchiest

[22:13] but also most annoying song

[22:14] from Sparks' last album,

[22:15] Hippopotamus,

[22:16] a song called Giddy,

[22:17] or anything called

[22:17] Giddy Giddy,

[22:18] which I love

[22:19] but which drives

[22:19] anyone who's not me

[22:20] or my son insane

[22:21] upon listening to it.

[22:22] So his name is Giddy.

[22:23] Sure.

Stuart Wellington

[22:24] So we're introduced

[22:24] to some more characters.

[22:25] Maybe short for Gideon?

[22:27] To Giddy?

[22:28] Yeah.

[22:28] Sounds like a comic book character.

[22:30] We're introduced

[22:31] to two new characters.

[22:32] They're a pair of counselors.

[22:34] We have Jamie and Fanny

[22:36] and now Jamie,

[22:37] his character,

[22:38] his goal

[22:39] is constantly

[22:41] to try and get

[22:42] Fanny alone

[22:43] so that they can

[22:43] consummate their relationship.

[22:45] And he makes

[22:46] allusions to her chest

[22:48] quite a bit.

Dan McCoy

[22:49] Now,

[22:50] Jamie,

[22:51] I just want to,

[22:52] Jamie is played

[22:52] by Archie Han.

[22:54] You might remember

[22:55] as being a character actor

[22:56] in several Joe Dante movies.

[22:58] Okay.

[22:58] To give us some parts.

[23:00] I don't know,

[23:01] like in Gremlins 2,

[23:02] he's one of the guys

[23:03] in the control room

[23:03] who are making fun of him

[23:04] for how ridiculous...

[23:06] Oh,

Dan McCoy

Stuart Wellington

[23:06] so what if you're on an airplane

Dan McCoy

[23:07] and it's going over the time?

[23:08] Exactly.

[23:09] That guy.

[23:09] And Fanny is played

[23:11] by Misty Rowe

[23:12] who was one of the ladies

[23:14] in Hee Haw

[23:14] and later a Playboy

[23:16] Woman of the Month.

[23:18] Anyway.

[23:19] Playboy Woman of the Month.

Stuart Wellington

[23:22] Bill, this is your wheelhouse.

[23:24] Look,

Dan McCoy

[23:24] I find the term

[23:27] playmate demeaning,

[23:28] but I will mention

[23:29] that she was in Playboy.

[23:31] And you spell

[23:31] woman with a Y

[23:32] when you say

[23:33] Playboy Woman of the Month.

Elliott Kalan

[23:37] We then...

[23:38] I also want to mention,

[23:39] I just saw in my notes

[23:40] that the wheelchair kid

[23:40] is named Tommy McPhee,

[23:42] which never comes up again,

[23:43] I think.

[23:44] So they make a big stink

[23:45] about his name.

Stuart Wellington

[23:46] We now get a little bit

[23:47] of a montage

[23:48] of different kids

[23:49] arriving and being

[23:50] dropped off at camp.

[23:51] There's a lot of bits.

[23:53] to a couple of twins.

[23:55] We see...

[23:56] And this is when

[23:57] I started getting

[23:58] a little distracted

[23:58] because Elaine Boosler

[24:01] shows up

[24:01] to warn her daughter

[24:03] about the perils of men.

[24:06] And I'm like,

[24:06] oh, Elaine Boosler is great.

Dan McCoy

[24:07] And she delivers

[24:07] the two good jokes

[24:08] in the movie

[24:09] to my way of thinking.

[24:10] I actually found

[24:11] her lines funny.

[24:12] Yeah,

[24:12] because she's Elaine Boosler.

Stuart Wellington

[24:13] Total dreamboat.

[24:15] And then we get that scene

[24:16] where a pair

[24:17] of brace-faced teens

[24:19] are making out

[24:20] and rips the braces

[24:21] off of one another,

[24:22] which is like

[24:22] a little early in the movie

[24:23] for body horror,

[24:25] but I guess you could do that.

Elliott Kalan

[24:26] Yeah,

[24:26] Cronenberg dropped

[24:27] by the set one day

[24:28] and they let him

[24:28] direct a shot.

[24:29] Yeah,

Stuart Wellington

[24:29] the Soska sisters

[24:30] stepped in for this one.

Dan McCoy

[24:31] The real horror

[24:32] is how much

[24:33] is it going to cost

[24:33] to fix those braces?

[24:35] I get to make that joke.

[24:36] I'm a dad.

[24:37] No?

[24:37] Okay.

Stuart Wellington

[24:39] to a kid

[24:39] who's super into taxidermy.

[24:41] You know,

[24:41] the normal thing.

[24:42] A little candy dealing kid

[24:43] who has a briefcase

Elliott Kalan

[24:44] full of candy.

[24:45] He's a black market

[24:46] candy dealer.

Stuart Wellington

[24:47] And in general,

[24:48] like,

[24:49] at least I got the feeling

[24:50] like these were all

[24:52] city kids

[24:53] who were just out

[24:53] in the boonies

[24:55] for summer.

Elliott Kalan

[24:55] Which is what

[24:56] summer camp is.

[24:58] There's no reason

[24:58] to go.

[24:59] I mean,

Elliott Kalan

[24:59] not me.

Stuart Wellington

[24:59] I grew up in Indiana,

[25:00] which was a fairly

[25:01] rural area.

[25:02] Did you go to summer camp?

[25:03] Well,

[25:05] I went to, like,

[25:05] day camps

[25:06] and I went to soccer camp.

[25:07] No,

[25:08] that's not the same.

Dan McCoy

[25:08] I grew up in

[25:09] Nowheresville,

[25:10] Illinois.

[25:12] Actual name,

[25:12] Eureka.

[25:14] And...

[25:14] This is a place

Stuart Wellington

[25:15] that put a cover story

[25:16] about Dan

[25:17] in the newspaper

[25:18] and now he's fucking

[25:19] dragging them

[25:20] on our show.

Dan McCoy

[25:21] Well,

[25:22] I mean,

[25:22] the town didn't do that.

[25:24] I didn't get the key

[25:24] to the city.

[25:25] Like,

[25:25] it was a newspaper.

[25:26] Dan,

[25:26] I guess it's not

[25:27] good enough for you.

[25:27] Wow.

[25:28] Now I get while you're mad.

Elliott Kalan

[25:29] Yeah,

[25:30] put Eureka on notice.

[25:31] Dan demands key to city.

[25:33] I'm your favorite son,

[25:34] not Ronald Reagan,

[25:36] says Dan McCoy.

Dan McCoy

[25:37] Well,

[25:37] he just went to college there.

[25:38] Ben Zobrist

[25:39] is probably the favorite...

[25:40] Who is that?

[25:41] Ben Zobrist?

[25:42] Baseball player.

[25:44] Ben Zobrist?

[25:44] Ben Zobrist.

[25:45] Oof.

[25:46] Oh.

[25:46] We just lost

[25:47] the sports fans.

[25:47] He's a Cubs player.

[25:48] Oh,

[25:48] you mean David?

[25:50] My brother?

[25:51] Very,

Stuart Wellington

[25:51] very successful

[25:52] player for the Cubs.

[25:53] But,

Dan McCoy

[25:53] no,

[25:54] I can't,

[25:55] I,

[25:55] my town was

[25:56] tiny,

[25:56] and I still went,

[25:57] I went to church camp

[25:58] in the summers.

[25:59] But those are not

[26:00] the same things.

[26:00] It's not the same.

[26:01] Well,

[26:01] but it's a,

[26:02] it's still a camp.

[26:03] Like,

[26:03] I,

[26:03] like my parents,

[26:05] like my parents were religious,

[26:06] but I think that the main reason

[26:07] they were sending me to camp

[26:08] was the same reason

[26:09] anyone gets sent to camp

[26:10] is one,

[26:11] get out of the house.

[26:12] So you can do it

[26:12] when your kids are away,

[26:13] yeah.

[26:14] Two,

[26:14] you should,

[26:14] you know,

[26:15] see some of the outdoors

[26:16] rather than do what I did,

[26:17] which was stay inside

[26:18] all the time

[26:19] playing the Nintendo

[26:20] entertainment system

[26:21] and watching movies

[26:22] and reading.

S4

[26:22] If your camp had

[26:23] Nintendo movies

[26:24] and movies,

[26:25] it was not a camp.

[26:26] No,

[26:27] but that's what he did.

Stuart Wellington

[26:27] I'm saying it was not.

[26:29] Oh, okay.

[26:29] I sat on like,

[26:29] like I was like the kid

[26:30] who in,

[26:31] in what was that?

[26:32] Like fifth or sixth?

[26:33] No,

[26:33] it was in like fourth grade

[26:34] where my teacher

[26:36] got mad at me

[26:36] because during recess

[26:37] I would stay in

[26:39] and read about

[26:39] like reptiles and shit

[26:41] and she's like,

[26:42] I want to have my lunch

[26:43] without a fucking kid around.

Elliott Kalan

[26:47] Charlene,

[26:47] you and I I think

[26:48] are on the same page

[26:49] on this one

[26:49] because we both

[26:50] I think had the

[26:50] tri-state Jewish

[26:52] going to summer camp.

[26:53] Yeah.

[26:54] All summer.

[26:54] Experience where you go

[26:56] because it's the only time

[26:58] you're going to do

[26:58] outdoor things

[26:59] and you try to run away

[27:01] and eventually

[27:02] you get kicked out early

[27:03] because you threw a rock

[27:04] through a window.

[27:04] We both had that experience,

[27:06] right?

S4

[27:06] I got not invited back

[27:08] because I refused to swim.

[27:09] So, yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[27:10] Oh, yeah.

[27:10] I hated swimming too.

[27:11] Yeah.

[27:13] We have so much in common.

[27:14] I know.

[27:14] Yeah.

[27:15] We should spend more time together.

[27:16] We totally should.

Stuart Wellington

[27:17] I don't know about that.

[27:19] So, now we're introduced

[27:21] with the second conflict.

[27:24] The first being

[27:24] the conflict of

[27:25] Jamie versus

[27:26] cruel fate

[27:27] keeping him from Fanny.

[27:28] Keeping his penis

[27:29] from Fanny's vagina

[27:30] over and over again.

[27:31] The second main conflict

[27:33] is between

[27:34] Camp Sasquatch,

[27:35] which we've always

[27:36] already been introduced to,

[27:38] and the rival

[27:39] across the lake,

[27:41] Camp Patton,

[27:42] an evil military camp

[27:43] run by

[27:44] Colonel Bat Jack Hershey,

[27:46] which Bat Jack

[27:47] is a name where I'm like,

[27:48] you can name your kid that?

[27:50] Elliot,

[27:51] why haven't you been

[27:51] naming your children

[27:52] Bat Jack?

Elliott Kalan

[27:53] That's a good question.

[27:54] My guess is it's,

[27:55] actually,

[27:56] It reminds me

[27:57] that it's a Christian name.

[27:58] Do you think it's

[27:59] a Christian name?

[27:59] Maybe.

[28:00] I think it's a Christian name

[28:01] in your kids' children.

[28:03] Yeah.

[28:04] We were like,

[28:05] should we name him

[28:06] Bat Jack?

[28:07] And I was like,

[28:07] too goy.

[28:08] You're not going to do it.

[28:10] My guess is it might be that,

[28:11] and it might be

[28:12] just a nod to

[28:13] Black Jack Pershing,

[28:14] the World War I general.

Stuart Wellington

[28:16] So we have,

[28:17] we have,

[28:18] we're introduced to Hershey,

[28:20] the guy who leads the camp,

[28:21] and he's this tiny little,

[28:22] like,

[28:24] patent parody,

[28:25] who says a lot of

[28:27] terribly homophobic stuff,

[28:28] and I cannot endorse that.

[28:29] Patent parody,

[28:30] patent pending.

[28:32] Patent leather.

[28:33] It is,

[28:34] and he is backed up

[28:36] by his,

[28:36] his major domo,

[28:39] John,

[28:39] played by John Larrakat,

[28:41] what is it,

[28:42] Lieutenant Foxglove?

[28:43] Yeah,

[28:43] I think so.

[28:43] Who is,

[28:44] uh,

[28:45] fairly offensive.

[28:47] It would be.

Elliott Kalan

[28:48] He's a closeted gay man.

[28:49] He is a barely closeted gay man.

[28:51] He is a gay stereotype.

[28:52] He,

Dan McCoy

[28:53] I,

[28:53] the best that can be said

[28:54] about this character is,

[28:55] it could be much worse.

[28:57] Here's what I'll say about it.

Elliott Kalan

[28:59] It is,

[29:00] on its face,

[29:01] offensive.

[29:02] And it's only,

[29:03] I think,

[29:03] because John Larrakat

[29:04] makes him feel like a real character

[29:06] to a certain extent,

[29:07] that he's able to pull it off.

[29:09] And that it is,

[29:10] it's one of those parts

[29:10] that John Larrakat

[29:11] should not have done,

[29:13] but he manages to,

[29:14] for me at least,

[29:15] he managed to,

[29:16] every joke about Foxglove

[29:17] or that Foxglove makes

[29:18] is offensive to me,

[29:19] but he manages to give the character

[29:21] such a sense of dignity.

[29:22] He is always above

[29:24] whatever is going on

[29:25] that I'm like,

[29:25] okay,

[29:25] he's imbuing this character

[29:26] with more than it deserves,

[29:27] you know.

S4

[29:28] It seemed like the,

[29:30] the,

[29:31] what,

[29:32] Patton,

[29:32] what was his name?

[29:33] The Lieutenant.

[29:34] Bat Jack.

[29:35] Bat Jack.

[29:35] It seemed like,

[29:36] it was almost like

[29:37] he was an idiot

[29:38] for making those jokes

[29:40] and John Larrakat

[29:41] was above it.

[29:42] Yeah,

Stuart Wellington

[29:42] and he,

[29:43] he ultimately is the villain

[29:44] and asshole of the movie.

Elliott Kalan

[29:45] And the ultimate joke is,

[29:46] the big joke is supposed to be

[29:47] that he doesn't notice

[29:48] that Foxglove is so

[29:49] obviously gay

[29:51] and at one point lisps

[29:53] I hate lisping

[29:54] or something

[29:55] oh,

[29:56] did I do it?

[29:56] Oh no.

[29:57] But it is still,

[29:58] the jokes themselves

[29:59] are still like.

[29:59] No,

Stuart Wellington

[29:59] the jokes are just like,

[30:00] gays exist.

Elliott Kalan

[30:01] And also,

[30:01] by the end of it,

[30:02] Foxglove,

[30:03] someone has to escape

[30:04] from the military camp

[30:05] and will get to it

[30:05] and steals one of Foxglove's dresses

[30:07] and it's like,

[30:08] yep,

[30:08] in the 80s,

[30:09] I guess,

[30:09] cross-dressing and being gay,

[30:11] same exact thing.

[30:12] Drag and gayness

[30:13] goes together.

[30:14] We can talk about

Stuart Wellington

[30:16] how the real element

[30:18] of that sequence

[30:19] that doesn't make any sense

[30:20] is that a dress

[30:21] that seems to fit

[30:22] Flash perfectly

[30:23] in no way would fit

[30:24] a very tall

[30:26] John Larroquette.

Elliott Kalan

[30:26] It's also an incredibly

[30:28] It's an incredibly

[30:29] dowdy cocktail dress,

[30:31] though.

[30:32] Foxglove has a sense

[30:34] of style

[30:34] and poise about him

[30:35] and you'd think

[30:36] he'd wear something

[30:36] that showed off his legs

[30:38] for one thing,

[30:38] maybe showed off his shoulders.

[30:40] I think it speaks more

Stuart Wellington

[30:41] to Flash

[30:42] picking a dress option

[30:44] that is maybe

[30:44] a little more demure

[30:45] because deep down

[30:46] he is a fairly

[30:47] conservative man.

Elliott Kalan

[30:48] I guess so.

[30:49] I'm surprised

[30:50] Foxglove owns that dress

[30:51] and I'm going to chalk it up

[30:52] to a different gay stereotype

[30:53] that he is obsessed

[30:54] with his dead mother

[30:55] and so has her clothes

[30:57] and that's why

[30:57] he's so offended at the end

[30:58] because he's like

[30:59] that's my mother's dress.

[31:00] Cool.

Stuart Wellington

[31:00] So at this point

[31:02] we learn that

[31:03] Flash seems to have

[31:05] a crush on the nice girl

[31:07] Cheryl.

[31:08] Giddy meets with Flash

[31:10] and tries to convince him

[31:11] to be part of the

[31:12] upcoming

[31:13] Champ of the Lake competition.

[31:16] This is where we know

[31:17] this is the crux

[31:17] of the movie

[31:18] is that we know

[31:19] that everything

[31:20] is going to hang

[31:20] in the balance

[31:21] on the Champ of the Lake

[31:22] a boxing match

[31:23] that will

[31:24] between them

[31:25] and Camp

Dan McCoy

[31:26] between Camp Sasquatch

[31:27] and Camp Patton.

Stuart Wellington

[31:30] Flash meets

[31:30] with his bunk

[31:31] which of course

[31:32] is made up

[31:32] with all of the

[31:33] the rascals

[31:34] we have already

[31:35] been introduced with

[31:36] including

[31:37] as Dan mentioned earlier

[31:38] the older brother

[31:39] from the Wonder Years

[31:40] who is now

[31:41] Elliot mentioned that.

[31:42] Elliot mentioned it.

[31:43] Give Dan the credit.

Elliott Kalan

[31:44] You guys are pretty similar right?

[31:45] Look I have so much

[31:46] going on in my life

[31:47] Dan can't give him credit

[31:47] for that.

Stuart Wellington

[31:48] Dan's been dropping

[31:49] IMDB shit all day long.

[31:51] That's true.

[31:51] He's the one

Elliott Kalan

[31:51] who's been getting us

[31:52] in the know

[31:53] on all these

[31:53] people's histories.

Dan McCoy

[31:54] I did a deep dive

[31:55] on Meatballs 2.

[31:57] Yeah I've been clawed

Elliott Kalan

[31:57] my way back on

[31:58] that deep dive.

[31:58] It's amazing

[31:59] that this is the one

[32:00] movie that Dan

[32:00] has been motivated

[32:01] to be like

[32:01] I've got to get

[32:02] to the bottom of it.

[32:02] I woke up for this one.

[32:05] I feel like we should

[32:06] do all the Meatballs

[32:07] movies at this point.

[32:10] But Stuart

[32:11] is there

[32:11] another member

[32:14] of the cabin

[32:14] that has to show up?

[32:16] We'll get to that

[32:17] in a second.

Stuart Wellington

[32:18] Yeah the girls

[32:19] make friends

[32:19] with each other

[32:20] there's some more

[32:20] homophobic stuff

[32:21] according to my notes.

[32:22] Is this when they talk

[32:23] about pinkies?

[32:24] As night falls

[32:25] okay night falls

[32:27] on the camp

[32:28] and there's one more

[32:30] camper that has to arrive.

[32:33] A spaceship

[32:33] from outer space

[32:34] shows up

[32:35] piloted by aliens.

[32:37] Meanwhile

[32:38] they're interrupting

[32:39] Jamie and Fanny

[32:40] who are just trying

[32:40] to get a little bit

[32:41] of alone time.

[32:42] The aliens arrive

[32:43] they are apparently

[32:44] Jewish.

Elliott Kalan

[32:45] The mother I'm not

[32:46] so sure

[32:47] but the father

[32:47] is certainly

Stuart Wellington

[32:48] very Jewish.

[32:50] They are

[32:51] as my notes say

[32:52] good ass

[32:53] special effects.

Elliott Kalan

[32:55] The eyes

[32:56] on the alien costume

[32:57] are much better

[32:58] than they should be

[32:59] when it comes to blinking

[32:59] and I have to

[33:00] I like

[33:01] Much better than

Stuart Wellington

[33:01] the mouth certainly.

[33:02] You think that

[33:03] if you were

[33:04] designing a body

[33:05] you would want

[33:06] the thing that

[33:07] takes in nutrients

[33:08] and keeps the body

[33:09] alive to function

[33:10] better than the eyes

[33:11] that blink.

[33:11] We don't know

[33:12] how it takes

Elliott Kalan

[33:12] in nutrients.

[33:14] Could be through

[33:15] the butt.

[33:15] We don't know.

[33:16] The thing also

[33:16] that you're going

[33:17] to notice the most

[33:17] because the alien

[33:18] is talking much more

[33:19] than it's winking

[33:20] you think you would

[33:21] design.

[33:21] But I have to admit

[33:22] so the one thing

[33:24] that makes me think

[33:25] that the people

[33:26] who made this movie

[33:26] knew what they were

[33:27] doing comedy wise

[33:28] is that the alien

[33:29] kid's voice

[33:30] is so blandly normal.

[33:34] It is the only joke

[33:36] that I'm like

[33:36] admiring it

[33:37] is that the alien

[33:37] kid's like

[33:38] yeah hey dad

[33:39] oh hey what's

[33:40] going on.

[33:40] Like that's how

[33:41] the alien sound.

[33:42] It's like the

[33:42] robot janitor

[33:43] and rotor

[33:43] where I was like

[33:44] oh there was

[33:44] some genius

[33:45] at work here.

[33:46] It would be easy

[33:46] if he was like

[33:47] what is canoe?

[33:49] But instead he's like

[33:50] yeah I don't want

[33:50] to go to camp dad.

Stuart Wellington

[33:53] It's a good bit

[33:54] and we'll get back

[33:55] to him later.

[33:56] He disappears

[33:56] into the darkness.

Elliott Kalan

[33:58] He would think

[34:00] he would be a larger

[34:00] part of the movie.

Dan McCoy

[34:02] He disappears

[34:02] for long stretches

[34:03] of it.

[34:03] There's a

[34:04] this is jumping

[34:05] way ahead

[34:06] but it speaks

[34:06] to the design

[34:07] of the alien

[34:08] so I want to

[34:08] just say this

[34:09] there's a running

[34:10] gag in the movie

[34:11] where the alien

[34:12] can walk through

[34:13] things.

Stuart Wellington

[34:14] Wow you're totally

[34:15] bearing the lead

[34:16] on the coolest

[34:17] power he has

[34:17] the only power he has.

[34:19] Hold on.

[34:19] Let's go.

[34:20] The second

[34:20] goes power.

[34:21] He's got a couple

[34:22] powers.

[34:22] He's got a couple

Dan McCoy

[34:23] powers.

[34:23] One of them is he

[34:24] can walk through

[34:24] things and there's

[34:25] a scene later on

[34:26] where the kids

Stuart Wellington

[34:26] are like you can't

[34:28] walk through

[34:28] things.

Dan McCoy

[34:28] You can't draw

[34:30] attention to yourself

[34:30] despite the fact

[34:31] that he looks

[34:31] like an alien

[34:32] so that's the

[34:33] first time.

[34:33] And he's wearing a

[34:33] raincoat.

[34:34] A bright yellow

[34:35] raincoat.

[34:37] And a hat.

[34:38] And at the end

[34:39] as he's leaving

[34:41] the camp for the

[34:41] last time he

[34:42] starts to walk

[34:43] through the door

[34:44] and the kids

[34:46] are like oh

[34:47] meatball or

[34:48] whatever.

[34:49] Meathead.

[34:51] Meatball would

[34:51] make sense.

[34:52] They're like

[34:53] meathead.

[34:54] Oh you're at it

[34:55] again.

[34:55] He's like sorry.

[34:56] And then he goes

[34:57] back and uses his

[34:57] other power which

[34:58] is to telekinetically

[35:00] open the door.

[35:01] I was like but

[35:02] before he telekinetically

[35:03] open the door I'm

[35:03] like how are they

[35:04] going to handle

[35:05] this one because

[35:06] this is clearly not

[35:07] he does not have an

[35:08] articulated arm that

[35:09] he can open a door

[35:10] with.

[35:11] Like what are they

[35:11] going to do?

[35:12] And he's like oh

[35:13] I'll just use my

[35:14] other superpower.

[35:15] Yeah I love that

Stuart Wellington

[35:15] scene where the

[35:16] kids got mad at

[35:17] him for just

[35:17] walking through

[35:17] trees.

[35:19] And he's like

[35:19] hey you guys go

[35:22] on ahead.

[35:22] I'm going to

[35:23] practice walking

[35:24] around stuff.

[35:25] And they're like

[35:26] okay.

[35:27] Like what kid is

[35:28] like oh okay

[35:29] we'll leave the

[35:30] alien we're

[35:31] hanging out

[35:32] with to go to

[35:32] fucking lunch.

[35:33] The aliens seem to

Dan McCoy

[35:35] be constantly trying

[35:35] to lose the

[35:36] aliens.

[35:36] They all pull out

[35:37] their calendars.

[35:39] They're like uh

[35:40] we'll meet up for

[35:41] drinks at the club

[35:42] afterwards.

[35:43] They're like I can't

Stuart Wellington

[35:44] miss lunch.

[35:45] They're serving

[35:45] eggs-erroneous again

[35:46] apparently.

Elliott Kalan

[35:48] I'm from another

[35:49] planet and I have

[35:49] magic powers.

[35:51] Ooh Tuesday's not

[35:52] good for me.

[35:52] This whole week's

[35:53] kind of cramped.

[35:54] Maybe I don't know

[35:55] maybe let's do

[35:56] Wednesday.

[35:57] No let's do

[35:57] September.

[35:58] There's also I

[35:59] will I just want to

[36:00] mention that the

[36:01] way the movie

[36:01] handles the alien.

[36:02] I have to assume

[36:03] that they first

[36:05] commissioned like

[36:05] Jack Davis to do

[36:06] a poster where all

[36:07] the characters are

[36:08] chasing somebody and

[36:09] he just threw in

[36:10] whoever he wanted and

[36:11] they were like shit

[36:12] there's an alien

[36:12] there's like a kid

[36:13] in a wheelchair

[36:14] out running a bus

[36:14] like I guess this

[36:16] is in the movie now.

[36:17] We don't have

[36:17] enough money to cut

[36:18] to make Jack Davis

[36:18] go back and make

[36:19] changes.

S4

[36:20] I felt like they

[36:22] made the movie and

[36:23] then they saw E.T.

[36:25] and they were like

[36:25] we gotta make an E.T.

[36:27] and they like had

[36:28] to put like and

[36:29] they like threw

[36:30] him in at the last

[36:30] minute.

[36:30] Yeah the movie they

Stuart Wellington

[36:31] had made was only

[36:32] I don't know like a

[36:33] trim 24 minutes

[36:34] long and they're like

Elliott Kalan

[36:35] fuck.

[36:36] We gotta throw in an E.T.

[36:37] It was a pilot

[36:38] for the meatball

[36:39] series.

[36:40] Like well we gotta

[36:41] expand it for the

[36:41] European theatrical

[36:42] market.

Stuart Wellington

[36:43] Okay so we're

[36:44] briefly introduced

[36:45] it's the next morning

[36:45] we're briefly

[36:46] introduced to the

[36:47] French cook of the

[36:49] camp who is also a

[36:51] drinker.

Elliott Kalan

[36:53] There's a weird

[36:54] they don't quite

[36:55] understand the

[36:55] Giddy is like no

[36:57] fancy foods I want

[36:58] meatloaf I want

[36:59] burgers but the rest

[37:00] of the movie is

[37:01] Rene looking at

[37:02] every horse and

[37:03] just trying to make

[37:04] it trying to steal

[37:05] it so he can cook

[37:06] it.

[37:06] It's a very it's

[37:07] like what's the gag?

[37:08] Is the gag that he's

[37:09] a fancy French cook

[37:10] or that he's a

[37:10] he's horses?

[37:11] Yeah that does not

Dan McCoy

[37:11] make sense although

[37:12] speaking of gags like

[37:13] that's again there

[37:14] there are a few gags

[37:15] in this movie that

[37:16] work for me and one

[37:17] of them is like

[37:18] seeing Rene like

[37:19] trying to carry half

[37:21] of a like a full

[37:22] dead horse and

[37:23] like rigor mortis

[37:24] like holding the

[37:26] head up and then

[37:27] like dropping it as

[37:28] he's trying to put

[37:29] it on a gurney.

Stuart Wellington

[37:30] So now the kids from

[37:33] Flash's bunk get

[37:34] into a little scuffle

[37:36] outside of the what

[37:37] the bathroom.

[37:39] It's like an

[37:39] outhouse.

[37:40] Yeah the outhouse

[37:40] because somebody's

[37:41] been in there too

[37:41] long they need to go

[37:42] to the bathroom.

[37:43] So our friend in the

[37:45] wheelchair hooks up a

[37:47] grappling hook or a

[37:48] grapple to the door

[37:49] and he's like I'll

[37:49] pull the door open.

[37:50] They pull it open of

[37:51] course.

[37:52] Hiding inside is the

[37:54] kid who can face

[37:55] through walls.

[37:57] Meathead our alien

[37:58] friend.

[37:59] They meet with him.

[38:00] They talk to him.

[38:01] They seem kind of

[38:02] into it.

[38:03] Like they're pretty

[38:03] accepting.

[38:04] Who wouldn't be?

[38:04] He's an alien.

[38:05] And they're accepting

[38:06] of him.

[38:07] But how did he get

Elliott Kalan

[38:08] his name?

[38:09] So one of the

[38:09] characters is named

[38:10] Ted I think.

[38:11] And he goes me

[38:12] Ted.

[38:13] And he goes me

[38:14] Ted.

[38:15] And they're like

[38:15] that's his name I

[38:16] guess.

[38:16] Meathead.

Stuart Wellington

[38:17] And the funny thing

[38:18] is that like he's

[38:20] pretty adept at all

[38:21] other aspects of

[38:23] English language.

[38:23] He just speaks

[38:24] English.

[38:24] At one point they're

[38:25] like you want to go

[38:26] do this?

[38:26] And he's like I'd

[38:28] rather eat a Big

[38:28] Mac.

[38:29] And then of course

[38:30] at that point I'm

[38:31] sure McDonald's paid

[38:32] for that because like

[38:33] that's huge product

[38:34] placement.

[38:35] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[38:35] Well that's a friend

[38:37] of mine Kevin Marr.

[38:38] He has a theory that

[38:40] Mac and me that meat

[38:41] that it was that

[38:42] Mac and me I think

[38:43] was a ripoff of

[38:44] Meatballs 2 not

[38:45] of E.T.

[38:46] Because Meatballs 2

[38:47] introduced the idea

[38:47] of an alien eating

[38:48] a hamburger.

[38:50] It's weird that and

[38:51] his father says at

[38:51] one point like oh I

[38:52] gave you those

[38:52] English lessons for

[38:53] so that you have a

[38:55] reason to use them.

[38:55] So like why they

[38:56] have this like I

[38:57] don't understand you

[38:58] it doesn't make

[38:59] sense.

Stuart Wellington

[39:00] Well I don't know

[39:00] why they're making

[39:01] all this effort to

[39:02] explain why he

[39:03] knows English.

[39:04] It doesn't matter

[39:05] he's a fucking

[39:05] alien.

Elliott Kalan

[39:06] Planet of the

[39:07] Apes.

[39:07] The Apes know

[39:08] English and

[39:08] Charles Nestle

[39:08] never puts

[39:09] fucking two and

[39:09] two together

[39:10] on earth.

[39:11] He takes the

[39:11] Statue of Liberty

[39:12] for him to realize

[39:12] oh you mean

[39:13] English didn't arise

[39:14] naturally on this

[39:15] ape planet the

[39:16] same way it did

[39:16] here.

Stuart Wellington

[39:17] Charlton Heston is

[39:17] a huge dumbass

[39:18] alien.

Elliott Kalan

[39:19] I mean he's an

[39:19] astronaut so he

[39:20] can't be that

[39:21] dumb but on the

[39:21] other hand he is

[39:22] an astronaut who

[39:23] doesn't seem to

[39:23] know like how to

[39:25] wear clothes.

[39:26] Well he is from

Stuart Wellington

[39:27] I believe Fort Wayne

[39:27] Indiana according to

[39:28] the movie so that

[39:29] kind of explains it.

Dan McCoy

[39:30] Also this alien is

[39:32] attending the summer

[39:33] camp because his

[39:34] parents want him to

[39:35] go to summer camp

[39:36] on earth but their

[39:37] thing is just to

[39:38] drop them.

[39:39] They didn't pay

[39:41] for something.

[39:41] They didn't register.

[39:43] They're just like

[39:44] basically being like

[39:44] it'd be like if you

[39:46] Elliot like as

[39:47] Sammy got older

[39:49] just like pushed

[39:50] him out like near

[39:51] a summer camp

[39:51] he's like figure

[39:52] it out kid.

Elliott Kalan

[39:53] Hey sink or swim.

Stuart Wellington

[39:55] I'm sure there's a

[39:56] Dark Horse comic

[39:57] postulating that's

[39:58] what happened to

[39:58] the predator in

[39:59] the movie predator.

S4

[40:02] What would happen

[40:02] if a kid just

[40:03] showed up at camp?

Elliott Kalan

[40:04] I mean they'd

[40:05] probably call the

[40:06] parents or the

[40:06] police.

[40:07] Or devour him in

[40:08] some kind of ritual.

[40:09] I'll tell you what

[40:10] happens when a kid

[40:10] disappears from camp.

[40:12] They call your

[40:12] parents and they

[40:13] make you go home.

[40:14] Yeah yeah.

[40:14] Because they don't

[40:14] want you to leave

[40:15] without permission.

S4

[40:16] I left without

[40:17] permission a few

[40:18] times but I came

[40:18] back.

Elliott Kalan

[40:19] Oh see I left to

[40:20] go and I got in

[40:21] trouble.

[40:22] They're like you

Stuart Wellington

[40:23] stole a bindle

[40:25] from our bindle

[40:25] room?

Elliott Kalan

[40:26] They found me

[40:28] around a barrel

[40:29] fire telling my

[40:30] tale to a bunch

[40:31] of other bows and

[40:32] eating beans out

[40:33] of a can.

[40:34] You like made a

Stuart Wellington

[40:34] little fake beard

[40:35] out of like soot.

[40:37] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[40:38] Well my parents

[40:39] were most mad that

[40:40] I took my new good

[40:40] hiking boots and I

[40:41] cut the toes out so

[40:43] that I would have

[40:43] hobo boots.

[40:44] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[40:45] Hobo boots.

[40:46] Hobo boots.

[40:47] Cool.

[40:47] So we now you know

[40:49] it's the next day.

[40:50] Flash follows the

[40:52] Nancy and Cheryl who

[40:53] he is interested in

[40:55] to the gym where

[40:56] they are having a

[40:57] really cool aerobics

[40:59] class that devolves

[41:00] into madness.

Dan McCoy

[41:01] This is another

[41:02] question I have.

[41:03] There seem to be a

[41:03] lot of activities for

[41:05] the counselors at

[41:06] this camp.

[41:07] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[41:08] Not a lot for the

[41:09] kids.

[41:09] Are they female

S4

[41:09] characters campers

[41:10] or counselors?

[41:11] I couldn't tell.

Stuart Wellington

[41:12] I thought they were

[41:12] counselors.

[41:12] It's actually a pretty

[41:13] good question because

[41:14] like are they is

[41:16] Cheryl a camper?

[41:18] Because then if a

[41:19] counselor in training

[41:20] is hounding after

[41:21] that brings up some

[41:22] strange power dynamics.

[41:23] We've never seen her

[41:23] with kids.

[41:25] I assume she was a

Dan McCoy

[41:26] counselor because I

[41:26] feel like there are

[41:27] two levels of like

[41:28] ages of people at

[41:30] this camp.

[41:31] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[41:31] She's probably another

[41:32] CS.

[41:32] But it's just strange

[41:34] like there's a whole

[41:35] aerobics class just for

[41:37] counselor aged people.

Stuart Wellington

[41:39] Yeah.

[41:39] So at this point

[41:40] Flash meets with.

[41:41] I think they're

[41:41] supposed to be

[41:41] campers.

Elliott Kalan

[41:43] You think so?

[41:43] Because they have

[41:44] because Fanny is the

[41:44] counselor over them.

[41:46] Just like Flash is

[41:47] the counselor over his

[41:48] kids.

[41:48] Tiny little kids.

S4

[41:49] But he could be a

[41:50] CIT and they could be

[41:51] like the oldest camper.

[41:53] That could kind of

[41:53] work.

[41:54] Yeah.

[41:54] I mean that's it's

[41:55] there's a lot of

Elliott Kalan

[41:55] ethical boundaries that

[41:56] are you know we don't

[41:57] want to think about.

[41:58] It happens.

[41:58] So.

[41:59] And the scene where

[41:59] Giddy kisses the

[42:00] kid in the wheelchair

[42:01] is not okay.

[42:02] Wait what?

[42:03] No that didn't

[42:04] happen.

[42:04] Did I fall asleep?

[42:06] I missed that scene.

Stuart Wellington

[42:07] So Flash gets in a

[42:08] boxing match with

[42:09] Boomer.

[42:10] Camp Sasquatch is

[42:11] resident boxing

[42:12] champion who's kind

[42:12] of like a dumb

[42:13] Rocky Balboa type.

Elliott Kalan

[42:15] And I couldn't

[42:15] figure out if he was

[42:16] a camp Aurora

[42:16] counselor.

[42:17] All he seems to

[42:17] be just be the

[42:18] camp's boxer in

[42:19] residence.

[42:20] Yeah he's this

[42:21] older guy who's

[42:21] just a boxer and

[42:22] it's like I don't

[42:23] understand.

Stuart Wellington

[42:25] Yeah he's the

Elliott Kalan

[42:25] handyman.

[42:26] He's the guy

[42:27] that joins the

[42:27] van.

[42:27] Because the only

[42:28] thing we ever see

[42:28] him do is box and

[42:31] have a canoe on

[42:32] his head and he

[42:33] can't see where he's

[42:34] going and he's

[42:34] going in the wrong

[42:35] direction.

Stuart Wellington

[42:36] So after the gym we

[42:37] cut to a scene in the

[42:38] women's bunk.

[42:39] This is an important

[42:39] sequence because we

[42:40] learn an important

[42:41] it's similar to when

[42:42] you're watching or

[42:44] reading A Clockwork

[42:44] Orange and you're

[42:45] trying to understand

[42:46] the dialect.

[42:47] At this point we've

[42:47] been introduced to

[42:48] the term pinkies.

[42:50] And in my head I

[42:51] think of of course

[42:52] baby mice.

[42:53] Baby mice that are

[42:54] fed to other larger

[42:55] animals.

[42:56] But in this case no.

[42:57] We learned that

[42:58] pinkies means a man's

[43:00] penis.

[43:00] So they're looking at

[43:01] pinkies just to use

[43:03] their terminology in a

[43:05] Playgirl magazine a

[43:06] Playgirl magazine that

[43:07] touts an interview with

[43:08] Sally Field on the

[43:09] cover.

[43:11] That's really why they

[43:13] happen.

[43:13] And we realize that

[43:14] Cheryl is though

[43:15] Cheryl has a

[43:16] mystery mysterious past

[43:17] that hopefully will

[43:18] be explained over the

[43:19] course of the movie.

[43:20] She may have never

[43:22] seen a pinky before.

[43:23] So the Nancy decides

[43:25] to help Cheryl and the

[43:26] rest of the bunk kind

[43:27] of band with her.

[43:28] Their goal is to let

[43:29] her see a pinky.

[43:30] So it's kind of like a

[43:31] gender swap on the

[43:32] traditional like

[43:33] screwballs type sex

[43:35] comedy.

Dan McCoy

[43:36] I gotta say I do enjoy

[43:37] that this is a movie

[43:39] where the women are

[43:41] like the horny ones

[43:42] they're the ones

[43:42] sort of driving that

[43:44] plot.

[43:45] But it also gives you

[43:46] kind of a hint to the

[43:47] tone of this movie

[43:47] movie which is like

[43:49] sex comedy with all

[43:51] the sex scenes added

[43:51] edited out.

[43:52] Because you kind of

[43:53] keep thinking that

[43:55] like this is going to

[43:56] be an 80s TNA comedy

[43:57] and then like it never

[43:58] gets around to any of

[43:59] that.

Elliott Kalan

[44:00] I didn't find any T.

[44:02] Damn didn't see any A.

[44:03] And the ampersand in

[44:05] the middle.

[44:05] Well don't even talk to

[44:07] me about it.

[44:08] Yeah.

[44:08] Very mad.

[44:09] No it's a it feels

[44:10] like they are trying to

[44:12] yeah they're trying to

[44:13] do a sex comedy for

[44:14] kids which is but

[44:15] that's like.

[44:16] No it feels like

[44:16] they're like oh USA

[44:17] up all night

Dan McCoy

[44:18] always plays

[44:19] sex comedy with the

[44:21] stuff edited out.

[44:22] Let's just do their

[44:23] work for them.

[44:23] It's also like.

S4

[44:25] There was no USA

[44:26] up all night yet.

[44:27] No.

Dan McCoy

[44:28] They were at a

Elliott Kalan

[44:29] Cassandra on staff.

[44:32] It's the it's one of

[44:34] those movies that

[44:35] it just it gives a

[44:36] really skewed view

[44:38] of what summer camp

[44:39] is like.

[44:40] seems like the kids

[44:41] have the run of the

[44:42] place and also that

[44:42] like kids are just

[44:44] having sex with each

[44:45] other I guess or like

[44:46] plotting these things

[44:47] and like at some

[44:48] of the times I went to

[44:49] the counselors were

[44:49] certainly running off to

[44:50] have sex with each

[44:51] other sometimes I guess

[44:52] but like the kids were

[44:53] mostly busy like I

[44:56] don't know doing kid

[44:57] stuff just like being

[44:58] kids you know.

[44:59] Making bracelets

[44:59] playing games.

[45:00] Making bracelets yeah

[45:01] playing games.

Stuart Wellington

[45:02] Joining the Burger

[45:02] King Kids Club.

Elliott Kalan

[45:03] Yeah yeah.

[45:04] Being IQ or wheels.

Stuart Wellington

[45:06] We see the the the

[45:08] kids from the bunk

[45:09] have taken Meathead

[45:10] the alien kid to a

[45:13] outhouse graveyard where

[45:16] they make the decision

[45:17] to have him live I

[45:18] guess.

[45:19] They abandon this

[45:20] pretty quickly.

Elliott Kalan

[45:20] Yeah the alien just

[45:21] lives.

[45:22] Go live in this

[45:22] toilet.

[45:22] But there is I feel

[45:23] like this movie is in

[45:24] a nutshell is

[45:25] encapsulated in this

[45:26] scene where an alien

[45:27] says did somebody

[45:28] fart?

[45:29] And I'm like that's

[45:30] this movie an alien

[45:31] asking if somebody

[45:32] farted.

Stuart Wellington

[45:34] Cut to Across the

[45:35] Lake where

[45:36] the leader of that

[45:37] camp is meeting

[45:38] with a like racist

[45:40] caricature of a

[45:41] Native American

[45:41] chief who has is

[45:45] offering up water

[45:46] rights to the lake.

Dan McCoy

[45:48] I guess for whatever

[45:49] reason he hands over

[45:50] the deed to the lake

[45:51] to.

Elliott Kalan

[45:52] I don't know what

[45:52] he's giving them in

[45:53] return but it's he

[45:54] has somehow.

[45:54] It's not really

[45:55] established.

[45:55] He's somehow

[45:55] wheedled this out

[45:56] of.

Stuart Wellington

[45:57] Luckily that

[45:57] character doesn't

[45:58] show up at all

[45:59] until the very end

[46:00] for what I thought

[46:01] was a pretty good

[46:01] joke.

[46:02] We then go to.

[46:04] Stay tuned.

[46:04] Yeah.

[46:05] Starring John

[46:06] Ritter.

[46:07] We see the camp

[46:09] Patton like military

[46:11] guys riding over in

[46:13] boats to Camp

[46:14] Sasquatch.

[46:15] They start laying

[46:16] down immediately

[46:17] laying down razor

[46:18] wire and ushering

[46:19] kids off of the

[46:20] docks and the head

[46:22] of the camp meets

[46:23] with Giddy and he

[46:25] starts making

[46:26] ultimatums.

[46:27] Meanwhile we do

[46:27] get the good joke

[46:28] of who's the

[46:30] Renee is taking a

[46:32] comically dead

[46:34] fake horse out of

[46:35] a truck titled

[46:37] Belmont Steaks.

[46:39] Which is genuinely

[46:40] a pretty good joke.

Dan McCoy

[46:42] It's kind of not

[46:43] played enough to be

[46:45] the joke that I

[46:45] think the movie

[46:46] wants to be but I

[46:47] think that we're to

[46:48] believe that the

[46:48] like the good like

[46:50] Richard Mulligan

[46:51] is that his name?

[46:52] Yes.

[46:52] The good like.

[46:53] I can't believe you

Elliott Kalan

[46:53] have to ask Richard

[46:54] Mulligan's name.

[46:55] I'm just confirming.

[46:56] He starred in the

[46:57] best spinoff of

[46:58] Golden Girls that

[46:59] there was.

[47:01] Empty Nest.

[47:03] He went across the

[47:04] street from the

[47:04] Golden Girls.

[47:04] who was also in a

[47:05] sleepaway camp movie.

Dan McCoy

[47:08] Like the gag here

[47:10] is supposed to be

[47:11] that like Richard

[47:11] Mulligan is kind of

[47:12] like this touchy

[47:13] he's running this

[47:13] touchy feely new

[47:15] age camp.

[47:16] Yeah.

[47:16] And like they don't

[47:17] play that up quite

[47:18] as much as they play

[47:18] up the military

[47:19] nature of the bad

[47:21] camp.

[47:21] Sure.

[47:22] But that's supposed

[47:23] to be like the

[47:23] comic contrast.

Elliott Kalan

[47:24] They needed a scene

[47:25] where like they

[47:26] talk about nature

[47:27] or something like

[47:27] that or a scene

[47:28] where they talk

[47:28] about like it

[47:29] doesn't matter if

[47:30] you win or lose.

[47:30] You just got to

[47:31] have fun.

[47:31] That kind of thing.

[47:32] Like we're here

[47:33] for the kids.

[47:33] How is it the touchy

S4

[47:33] feely camp if

[47:34] everybody is sentenced

[47:36] to go there as

[47:37] their child?

Elliott Kalan

[47:39] It's true.

[47:39] Good question.

[47:40] It's a much more

[47:40] kind of like

[47:41] Scandinavian view of

[47:42] rehabilitation of

[47:43] prisoners.

[47:44] It's not about

[47:44] punishment.

[47:45] It's about reforming

[47:46] this person into a

[47:47] member of society.

[47:49] You know,

[47:49] contributor.

Stuart Wellington

[47:50] Yeah, that makes

[47:50] sense.

[47:51] And I had mentioned

[47:52] stakes earlier.

[47:53] Well, this is where

[47:53] we get the stakes of

[47:54] the movie.

[47:55] We learn that

[47:56] the stakes of the

[47:57] movie is that by

[47:58] the end of the

[47:59] summer, Camp Patton

[48:00] will own the rights

[48:01] to the lake and

[48:03] that they're going to

[48:04] have to most likely

[48:05] close Camp Sasquatch

[48:06] because you can't

[48:06] have a camp without

[48:07] a lake.

[48:08] However, the tables

[48:10] are quickly turned

[48:11] as Giddy surprises

[48:12] us by dressing up

[48:14] some of his

[48:15] counselors as

[48:16] Hare Krishnas who

[48:17] caper about on the

[48:19] shore, which makes

[48:20] the head of Camp

[48:21] Patton come over,

[48:22] worried that those

[48:23] Hare Krishnas are

[48:24] going to ruin his

[48:25] camp, I guess.

Elliott Kalan

[48:26] Yeah, and Giddy's

[48:28] like, what use is a

[48:29] camp without a lake?

[48:29] So I'm selling the

[48:31] camp to them and

[48:32] they can build their

[48:32] temple here.

[48:33] Camp Patton, or the

[48:34] head of Camp Patton,

[48:35] even though he has

[48:35] met Paul Rubens'

[48:36] character, doesn't

[48:37] seem to realize that

[48:37] Paul Rubens is the

[48:38] leader of these

[48:39] Hare Krishnas.

[48:40] Yeah, I mean, he

Stuart Wellington

[48:40] flicked him off like

[48:41] right before he

[48:42] walked into the room.

Elliott Kalan

[48:43] And it's not like

[48:44] you could say, well,

[48:45] he's used to seeing

[48:45] Paul Rubens with hair.

[48:46] He's not.

[48:47] He's used to seeing

[48:48] him with an

[48:48] aviator's cap on.

[48:50] So he looks almost

[48:51] exactly the same when

[48:52] he's wearing like a

[48:52] bald cap pretending

[48:53] to be a Hare Krishnas.

Stuart Wellington

[48:54] Yeah, so Giddy lays

[48:55] down an ultimatum.

[48:56] He says, I will not

[48:58] sell the camp if you

[49:00] let us determine who

[49:02] owns the lake by who

[49:04] wins the champ of the

[49:05] lake boxing competition.

[49:07] That thing mentioned

[49:08] earlier that we're very

[49:09] excited about.

[49:10] Which was a really

[49:10] poor business

S4

[49:12] negotiation.

[49:13] Because if he had

[49:13] him over a barrel

[49:14] like that, he should

[49:15] have just said, we

[49:17] want use of the

[49:18] lake.

[49:19] Why put the stakes

[49:21] so high?

Elliott Kalan

[49:23] I mean, and also

[49:23] considering that Camp

[49:24] Patton later on sees

[49:25] nothing wrong with

[49:26] kidnapping people.

[49:27] Yeah.

[49:28] And throwing grenades

[49:29] at people.

[49:29] Grenades.

S4

[49:29] Like children are

[49:30] walking around with

[49:31] grenades.

Elliott Kalan

[49:31] And they're like, I

[49:32] don't understand why

[49:33] this was such an

[49:34] issue.

Stuart Wellington

[49:36] Yeah.

[49:36] Almost immediately,

[49:38] the Camp Patton

[49:39] hires Sergeant

[49:41] Paladit, cool name,

[49:44] to go and neutralize

[49:46] Boomer, the Camp

[49:47] Sasquatch's resident

[49:49] boxing guy.

[49:50] Star boxer.

[49:50] Dummy guy.

[49:51] We then get a dance

[49:53] party that is

[49:53] staffed.

[49:54] It's filled almost

[49:55] entirely with adults

[49:56] and a few children.

[49:57] There's many

[49:58] mustaches in evidence.

Elliott Kalan

[49:59] I mean, the one

[49:59] thing that rang true

[50:01] to me is that at my

[50:01] summer camps, they

[50:02] were always making us

[50:03] do dances that nobody

[50:04] wanted to do.

Stuart Wellington

[50:06] So Flash is there.

[50:07] He tries to impress

[50:08] Charlotte.

[50:10] Flash's friend,

[50:11] Eddie.

[50:11] Cheryl, my mistake.

[50:12] Flash's friend,

[50:13] Eddie, starts dancing

[50:14] with Nancy.

[50:16] You know,

[50:16] everybody's hooking

[50:17] up.

[50:19] Sergeant Paladin

[50:20] from Camp Patton

[50:23] brings an elite team

[50:25] of military kids.

[50:27] Let's call them

[50:27] Kid Commandos.

[50:28] Kid Commandos.

[50:29] He dumps out a big

[50:30] bag of brass knuckles

[50:32] for them all to use.

[50:34] They wait for Boomer

[50:35] to finish getting ready.

[50:37] Boomer, who we've

[50:38] established as dumb

[50:38] and also apparently

[50:39] has a real body odor

[50:40] issue because he keeps

[50:41] putting on deodorant

[50:44] and then smelling

[50:44] himself and being

[50:45] not happy with the

[50:47] results.

[50:48] They trick him by

[50:49] claiming that they

[50:50] are him in the

[50:51] bushes.

[50:52] They say, like,

[50:54] it's Boomer here.

[50:54] So he's like,

[50:55] goes to investigate.

[50:56] Then they beat him

[50:57] within an inch of his

Elliott Kalan

[50:58] life with brass knuckles

[50:59] breaking his arm.

[51:00] It's crazy.

[51:01] It's rough.

[51:02] These are kids and

[51:03] they hit him so hard

[51:04] his arm broke.

[51:05] I mean, maybe

[51:05] Paladin took care of

[51:06] that part.

Stuart Wellington

[51:07] Yeah, they must

[51:09] practice the fist of

[51:10] the North Star over

[51:10] there.

[51:11] So Jamie and Fanny

[51:12] at the same time

[51:13] are trying to get

[51:13] alone.

[51:14] While at the same

[51:15] time, Nancy convinces

[51:17] Eddie to surprise

[51:20] Cheryl by...

Elliott Kalan

[51:21] Well, here's one of

[51:22] the weird things

[51:23] about it.

[51:24] Is that they set up

[51:25] a very kind of

[51:26] semi-elaborate prank

[51:27] while the camp is

[51:28] having a viewing of

[51:29] the movie Shockwaves,

[51:30] which is a horror

[51:31] movie about Nazi

[51:32] zombies that come out

[51:33] of a lake and kill

[51:34] people.

[51:35] And it is a strange

[51:36] choice for a movie

[51:38] night at a summer

[51:39] camp with kids.

[51:41] In a theater that is

Stuart Wellington

[51:42] very well lit.

[51:43] I believe I can

Elliott Kalan

[51:44] explain that choice.

[51:46] I'm sure it's a

[51:47] movie that either

[51:47] someone who made

[51:49] this movie was

[51:49] involved with where

[51:50] they bought the

[51:50] rights to.

[51:51] Yes, the director

Stuart Wellington

[51:52] of this is the

[51:52] director of Shockwaves.

Elliott Kalan

[51:53] Okay, now when I

[51:54] was a kid, in summer

[51:56] camp we did a thing

[51:56] once a summer where

[51:57] everybody had a big

[51:58] sleepover in the

[51:59] cafeteria.

[52:00] When the kids were

[52:01] awake, we watched

[52:03] a kid movie.

[52:04] Then when the younger

[52:05] kids went to Fern

[52:06] Gully or something,

[52:07] there was one year

[52:07] where it was Fern

[52:08] Gully, then I

[52:09] didn't watch the

[52:09] whole movie.

[52:10] I've talked about

[52:10] before about how

[52:11] I've never seen

[52:11] all of Fern

[52:12] Gully.

[52:12] Then the younger

[52:13] kids went to

[52:13] sleep and then we

[52:14] watched The Great

[52:14] Outdoors.

[52:15] And then when those

[52:16] kids went to sleep,

[52:17] the counselors and

[52:17] whichever kids were

[52:18] still awake, I guess,

[52:19] watched Stripes.

[52:21] And it was like,

[52:21] it wasn't like the

[52:23] kids were in a

[52:23] different room.

[52:24] They were all just

[52:24] there but asleep

[52:25] while Stripes was

[52:26] playing.

S4

[52:26] It was 80s PG or

[52:28] 79 I think.

Stuart Wellington

[52:30] Yeah, it's kind of

[52:31] like when I was

[52:31] watching Chernobyl at

[52:32] home with my wife

[52:33] Charlene asleep on

[52:34] the couch next to

[52:35] me.

[52:35] And there were

[52:35] episodes where I'm

[52:38] like, dear God, I

[52:39] hope Charlene does

[52:40] not open her eyes

[52:41] for but a moment

[52:42] like a dragon from

[52:43] Secret of Nymph.

Elliott Kalan

[52:45] So she convinces

[52:46] Eddie.

[52:47] To what?

[52:49] Streak or like

[52:50] open?

[52:51] To streak through

[52:51] the girl's cabin.

[52:53] And with the

[52:53] implication being if

[52:54] you streak through

[52:55] the girl's cabin and

[52:56] Cheryl sees your

[52:56] penis, I'm going to

[52:58] have sex with you.

Stuart Wellington

[52:58] And at that point

[53:00] her curse will be

[53:01] lifted.

[53:01] She'll have let

[53:02] Cheryl see a pinky

[53:03] and that her work

[53:05] is done.

[53:05] Now she can leave

[53:06] this earthly plane.

[53:06] She can beat

[53:07] her dragon out there.

Elliott Kalan

[53:08] Or maybe he thinks

[53:09] that the women will

[53:10] just be driven so

[53:11] crazy that he'll

[53:11] achieve every guy's

[53:12] dream of being

[53:13] torn to shreds

[53:14] like at the end

[53:14] of the baque.

[53:15] Don't most guys

S4

[53:16] think that like if

[53:17] they can get

[53:18] someone to see

[53:19] their penis,

[53:19] they won't be

[53:20] able to control

[53:21] themselves?

[53:21] I mean that is

[53:21] what many men

[53:22] believe.

[53:23] That's what many

[53:23] men believe.

[53:23] I feel like most

[53:24] of my rides on the

[53:25] subway have proven

[53:26] that to be true.

[53:27] They believe that

Elliott Kalan

[53:28] women have the

[53:29] same reaction to

[53:29] male genitals that

[53:30] men have to

[53:31] female genitals

[53:32] which is a

[53:32] complete loss of

[53:33] control or mental

[53:35] processes.

[53:36] Yeah, we start

Stuart Wellington

[53:36] saying hello to a

[53:38] nurse who isn't

[53:38] even there.

[53:39] Our eyeballs pop

[53:41] out of the sockets

[53:42] and you're like

[53:42] that's enough.

Elliott Kalan

[53:43] Our tongues get

[53:44] lengthened and

[53:45] fall on the ground

[53:46] and we don't even

[53:46] mind that our tongues

[53:47] are touching the

[53:48] ground which is

[53:48] disgusting.

[53:50] Because before we

[53:51] know it our heads

[53:51] turn into a steam

[53:52] whistle from an

[53:53] old factory and it's

[53:54] like how does our

[53:55] brain fit in there?

[53:56] Where did our eyes

[53:56] go?

[53:57] I don't understand.

[53:57] I mean the heat

Stuart Wellington

[53:58] involved would require

[53:59] that kind of a

[53:59] steam whistle to

[54:00] function would be

[54:01] certainly dangerous

[54:02] for a human body.

Elliott Kalan

[54:03] At the very least

[54:04] you'd be instantly

[54:04] dehydrated.

[54:05] Worst case scenario

[54:06] you'd die of heat

[54:07] stroke in a moment.

[54:08] But I think what

[54:09] men forget is often

[54:10] and I just want to

[54:11] before we go to this

[54:11] I think what men

[54:12] forget is that the

[54:12] female body is

[54:13] beautiful and the

[54:14] male body as I

[54:15] forget was it

[54:16] was it Elaine Boothler

[54:17] or Rita Wright

[54:17] I forget who what

[54:18] which comedian

[54:19] referred to it as

[54:19] looking like a

[54:20] half decorated

[54:20] Christmas tree.

Stuart Wellington

[54:22] So now we have

[54:24] the plan.

[54:25] Fanny and Jamie

[54:26] have made plans to

[54:28] hook up finally

[54:30] finding some alone

[54:31] time in this whirlwind

[54:33] of campers and

[54:35] Eddie is going to

[54:36] surprise Cheryl by

[54:37] showing up in their

[54:38] bunk naked.

[54:39] However what they

[54:40] did not count on

[54:41] are pranks.

[54:43] pranks.

[54:45] Everyone's Achilles

[54:46] heel.

[54:46] Pranks.

[54:49] Those kids we had

[54:49] talked about earlier

[54:50] swapped the

[54:52] removable bunk

[54:53] signs from the

[54:55] front of those

[54:56] bunks.

[54:58] So you know

[54:59] assuming that these

[55:00] love crazed

[55:01] maniacs that would

[55:02] show up would

[55:03] not notice.

[55:04] Now here's where

[55:05] we switcheroo

Dan McCoy

[55:05] that would not be

[55:08] out of place in a

[55:09] midsummer night

[55:09] street.

[55:10] Yeah.

[55:10] No.

Elliott Kalan

[55:11] No.

[55:12] There's something

[55:13] about this bit

[55:13] that also punctures

[55:14] another subplot of

[55:15] the movie because

[55:16] they move the

[55:17] numbers on the

[55:18] bunks between the

[55:19] girl's cabin and

[55:21] Fanny's cabin.

[55:22] Ah.

[55:22] Here's the rub.

[55:23] Fanny has her own

[55:24] cabin and what's

[55:26] what's Jack?

[55:27] Flash.

[55:28] No no what's the

[55:28] guy who's always

[55:29] trying to have sex

[55:30] with Fanny?

[55:30] Flash.

[55:30] No no no.

[55:31] Jamie.

[55:31] Jamie is constantly

[55:33] trying to find a

[55:33] place to have sex

[55:34] with Fanny.

[55:35] Why doesn't he do

[55:35] it in her private

[55:36] room?

[55:38] Well well

[55:38] meatballs part two

[55:39] I believe.

[55:42] I believe we've

[55:43] come to the end

[55:44] of this case as

[55:45] hits exhibit A.

[55:47] Meatballs I find

[55:48] you guilty of

[55:49] being dumb.

Stuart Wellington

[55:51] So we get the

[55:53] scene of Jamie

[55:54] and Eddie kind

[55:56] of like crossing

[55:57] paths and criss

[55:58] crossing not

[55:58] knowing where

[55:58] they're going and

[56:00] Charlene pointed

[56:01] out the best part

[56:02] is when Jamie's

[56:03] about to go into

[56:04] the bunk and he

[56:04] like rubs his

[56:05] hands together with

[56:06] like a little

[56:07] yummy face.

[56:10] So he goes

[56:11] rubbing his

[56:12] hands because he's

[56:13] like I'm gonna

[56:13] have something

[56:14] great and so

[56:15] they both go

[56:15] into the wrong

[56:16] cabins.

[56:16] Finally the

Elliott Kalan

[56:17] sweetest treat

[56:17] human affection.

[56:21] Truly he's

[56:22] like oh if

[56:23] Thornton Wilder

[56:24] was right in

[56:24] the bridge of

[56:25] St. Louis

[56:25] and love is

[56:26] the bridge

[56:27] and I'll be

[56:28] experiencing it

[56:28] tonight.

[56:29] Sweet effervescent

[56:30] euphoria.

Stuart Wellington

[56:32] True love.

[56:33] They show up

[56:35] Eddie flashes a

[56:38] newly awoken

[56:39] fanny.

[56:40] Jamie is in a

[56:41] camp full of

[56:42] what I can only

[56:43] assume are much

[56:44] younger women and

[56:45] they are terrified.

Elliott Kalan

[56:45] He's in his of

[56:46] course union suit

[56:47] underwear.

[56:48] Yeah he's wearing

[56:49] this like crazy

[56:50] It's also a

[56:52] summer camp.

[56:53] It's like a

[56:53] onesie but without

[56:55] the pants.

[56:56] It's like a

[56:56] long sleeve.

[56:57] It looks like it's

[56:58] a classic butt flap

[56:59] like long underwear.

[57:01] Like a prospector

[57:02] would wear on the

[57:03] range.

[57:04] It's custom

[57:04] made.

[57:05] It's a dress.

[57:06] It has no

[57:06] bottom.

[57:08] I mean.

[57:08] He's wearing I

[57:10] guess they ordered

[57:10] he called the

[57:11] tailor and he

[57:12] said get me the

[57:12] most comical

[57:13] night garments.

[57:14] I mean at this

Stuart Wellington

[57:15] point Jamie has

[57:17] been like he has

[57:18] been trying to

[57:19] he's been waiting

[57:20] for this moment

[57:20] for so long.

[57:21] We can only assume.

S4

[57:22] But the thing is

[57:23] whenever the plan

[57:24] gets thwarted

[57:25] she gets so mad

[57:26] at him.

[57:27] She gets very

[57:27] mad at him.

[57:28] Like she she's

[57:29] wanting to be

[57:30] alone with him

[57:31] and that and

[57:32] then he's like

[57:32] OK I'll set

[57:33] this up and

[57:34] then when they

[57:34] get interrupted

[57:35] she's like how

[57:36] dare you.

[57:37] She like slaps

[57:38] his face.

[57:38] I mean he's

Stuart Wellington

[57:39] also not very

[57:40] good in the

[57:40] clutch because

[57:41] he always whenever

[57:42] he gets flustered

[57:43] he starts referring

[57:44] to her breasts.

[57:45] He's like oh

Elliott Kalan

[57:45] but I love them.

[57:46] I mean you.

[57:47] That kind of

[57:47] thing.

[57:48] Now of course

[57:49] but he gets

[57:50] off easy because

[57:51] how does she

[57:51] respond to Eddie

[57:52] shoving his

[57:53] penis here in her

[57:54] face.

Stuart Wellington

[57:54] She grabs the

[57:55] double barreled

[57:55] shotgun which is

[57:56] perched right next

[57:58] to her headstand

[57:58] which seems like

Elliott Kalan

[57:59] a strange for a

[58:00] camp counselor to

[58:01] have next to her

[58:02] We learn there's a

Stuart Wellington

[58:03] bear issue at

[58:04] Camp Sasquatch

[58:05] later.

[58:05] I mean it's called

Elliott Kalan

[58:05] Camp Sasquatch and I

[58:06] assume because someone

[58:07] shot a Sasquatch

[58:08] and the head is

[58:10] mounted above the

[58:11] boxing ring and

[58:12] they figure that

[58:14] Harry's family will

[58:15] be back to try to

[58:16] get them.

[58:17] Harry's family you

[58:17] might think they're

[58:18] called the

[58:18] Hendersons.

[58:19] They're not.

[58:19] The Hendersons are

[58:20] the human family

[58:21] that Harry starts

[58:22] to live with.

[58:23] And hence the

[58:23] title Harry and

[58:25] the Hendersons.

[58:26] Not Harry

[58:27] Henderson.

[58:28] A Sasquatch who

[58:29] has a family.

[58:30] They never adopt

[58:31] Harry and make

[58:32] him a person.

[58:32] That would be so

[58:33] funny if the scene

[58:34] where they're like

[58:34] there's only one

[58:35] thing we can do

[58:36] and John Lithgow

[58:36] shaves Harry's

[58:37] body and puts

[58:38] like a beanie cap

[58:39] with a big lollipop

[58:40] in his hand and

[58:41] tries to pass him

[58:42] off as his

[58:42] adopted son.

Dan McCoy

[58:43] Now Elliot now

[58:44] what if Harry's

[58:45] Law instead of a

[58:46] Kathy Bates

[58:47] vehicle was

[58:49] Harry from

[58:50] Harry and the

[58:51] Hendersons as

[58:52] a lawyer.

[58:52] I mean it's

[58:52] basically unfrozen

[58:54] caveman lawyer at

[58:54] that point.

S4

[58:55] I challenge you to

[58:57] watch anything on

[58:58] TV and check out

[59:00] the actors IMDB

[59:01] page and not see

[59:02] that the last

[59:03] thing they did

[59:04] was Harry's

[59:04] Law.

[59:05] That seems to

Elliott Kalan

[59:06] be a running

[59:07] thing.

[59:08] It is almost

[59:08] always the case.

[59:09] You mean the

[59:10] last thing they

[59:10] did and then

[59:11] they died

S4

[59:11] afterwards?

[59:12] No like if

[59:13] you go like

[59:13] three projects

[59:14] down it's like

[59:15] oh Harry's

[59:16] Law.

Stuart Wellington

[59:16] Like where do

[59:16] we know this

[59:17] guy?

[59:18] Let's check

[59:18] IMDB.

[59:19] Oh my god

[59:20] they were on

[59:20] an episode of

[59:21] Harry's Law.

S4

[59:22] How many

[59:22] seasons of

[59:23] Harry's Law

[59:23] were there?

[59:24] Was she

[59:24] Harry?

Elliott Kalan

[59:26] I think she

[59:27] was Harry.

[59:27] I think Bates

[59:28] was Harry.

[59:29] Okay.

[59:30] And were the

[59:30] Hendersons in

[59:31] it?

[59:31] No.

[59:32] I mean I'll

[59:33] have to check.

Dan McCoy

[59:34] That was why it

[59:35] was puckishly

[59:36] amusing for me to

[59:37] slam them

[59:38] together.

[59:38] Wait is Harry

[59:39] spelled H-A-I-R-Y?

Elliott Kalan

[59:41] No that's

[59:41] Harry.

[59:42] That's a

[59:42] different word.

[59:44] I think it's

[59:44] kind of a joke.

[59:45] I think they

[59:45] call him Harry

[59:46] because he's

[59:46] Harry.

[59:47] Like meathead.

[59:48] There's a scene

[59:48] he like

[59:49] maybe John Lithgow

[59:50] is reading a book

[59:51] about Harry

[59:52] yesterday.

[59:52] David McCullough's

[59:53] biography of

[59:54] Truman.

[59:54] And instead of

[59:55] saying Truman

[59:55] he says Harry

[59:56] because that's

[59:57] what he's

[59:57] thinking.

[59:58] different movie.

[59:58] Yeah.

[59:59] He makes that

Stuart Wellington

[1:00:00] exclamation when

[1:00:01] he's reading the

[1:00:02] book.

Elliott Kalan

[1:00:02] Yeah.

[1:00:03] We have to

[1:00:03] mention that

[1:00:04] David McCullough

[1:00:05] when he saw

[1:00:05] that the Truman

[1:00:06] show starring

[1:00:06] Jim Carrey

[1:00:06] was coming

[1:00:07] he was like

[1:00:07] well Jim

[1:00:07] Carrey's a

[1:00:08] strange choice

[1:00:08] to play

[1:00:09] the president

[1:00:10] I wrote a

[1:00:10] 1200 page

[1:00:11] book on

[1:00:11] but I can't

[1:00:12] wait to see it

[1:00:13] and he got

[1:00:13] his popped

[1:00:14] corn and a

[1:00:14] generously large

[1:00:15] soda.

[1:00:16] Oh no.

[1:00:16] And didn't

[1:00:19] even see the

[1:00:20] movie because

[1:00:20] he was so

[1:00:21] horrified at

[1:00:21] what Paul

[1:00:22] Rubens was

[1:00:22] doing in the

[1:00:23] row over

[1:00:23] and he walked

[1:00:24] out and to

[1:00:25] this day

[1:00:25] David McCullough

[1:00:26] still thinks

[1:00:26] the Truman

[1:00:27] show is about

[1:00:27] President Harry

[1:00:28] Truman.

[1:00:28] And now you

[1:00:29] know the

[1:00:30] rest of the

[1:00:30] story.

[1:00:31] Harry's Law

[1:00:31] lasted only

[1:00:32] for 34

Dan McCoy

[1:00:33] episodes by

[1:00:34] the way.

Elliott Kalan

[1:00:34] 34 episodes

[1:00:35] of Harry's

[1:00:36] Law.

Elliott Kalan

[1:00:36] It's a better

[1:00:37] run than

Stuart Wellington

[1:00:37] like Capital

[1:00:38] Critters.

[1:00:39] Look you

[1:00:39] know it's

[1:00:40] two seasons

[1:00:41] I think.

[1:00:41] It's more

[1:00:41] than beloved

[1:00:43] animated show

[1:00:44] Tuca and

[1:00:44] Birdie Dan.

[1:00:46] Tuca and

[1:00:46] Birdie.

[1:00:47] Oh did that

[1:00:47] get cancelled?

[1:00:48] It got cancelled.

[1:00:48] So the next

Elliott Kalan

[1:00:50] day.

[1:00:51] Is Birdie

[1:00:51] going to be

[1:00:51] okay?

[1:00:53] Tuca's got

[1:00:54] other projects

[1:00:54] lined up.

[1:00:55] I don't know.

[1:00:56] The next

[1:00:56] day.

[1:00:56] You know

[1:00:56] what I'm

[1:00:57] just glad

[1:00:57] if we get

[1:00:58] any episodes

[1:00:59] of a show

[1:01:00] about two

[1:01:00] ladybirds who

[1:01:01] live in a

[1:01:01] world where

[1:01:02] buildings have

[1:01:02] boobs then I

[1:01:03] feel like America

[1:01:04] has done its

[1:01:04] job.

[1:01:05] So you know

[1:01:05] let's be

[1:01:05] thankful for

[1:01:06] what we

[1:01:06] had.

Stuart Wellington

[1:01:07] So the

[1:01:09] next day.

[1:01:09] Is that what

Elliott Kalan

[1:01:10] Lady Bird is

[1:01:10] about?

[1:01:11] Tuca and

[1:01:11] Birdie?

[1:01:12] Flash.

[1:01:13] Because it

[1:01:13] is two

[1:01:13] friends right?

Stuart Wellington

[1:01:14] Flash finally

[1:01:15] has a little

[1:01:16] bit of alone

[1:01:17] time in the

[1:01:17] bunk so he

[1:01:18] whips out a

[1:01:19] little joint and

[1:01:20] starts smoking

[1:01:21] the devil's

[1:01:21] weed.

[1:01:23] Thinking he's

[1:01:23] all alone.

[1:01:24] Not so my

[1:01:25] friend.

[1:01:26] He is joined

[1:01:26] by Meathead the

[1:01:28] alien who

[1:01:29] phases through

[1:01:30] the wall like

[1:01:31] Shadowcat.

Elliott Kalan

[1:01:32] And Flash is

[1:01:33] only barely phased

[1:01:34] because of the

[1:01:34] aforementioned

[1:01:35] reefer.

Stuart Wellington

[1:01:35] He sees

[1:01:36] Meathead.

[1:01:37] He's like he

[1:01:38] looks at the

[1:01:39] joint like a

[1:01:40] hobo might look

[1:01:41] at a bottle of

[1:01:43] Mad Dog 2020

[1:01:44] in a paper bag

[1:01:45] and he decides

[1:01:47] to throw it

[1:01:48] away.

[1:01:48] But luckily

[1:01:49] Meathead shows

[1:01:50] that he has

[1:01:50] other powers.

[1:01:51] He has

[1:01:51] telekinesis so

[1:01:52] he catches the

[1:01:53] joint midair and

[1:01:54] then being a

[1:01:55] child puts it

[1:01:56] in his mouth and

[1:01:57] starts smoking

[1:01:57] it.

[1:01:58] Which makes him

[1:01:59] float up to the

[1:02:00] ceiling of the

[1:02:01] cabin.

[1:02:01] It was the

[1:02:02] 80s.

Elliott Kalan

[1:02:02] It was amazing.

[1:02:03] So much stuff

[1:02:04] was new in the

[1:02:05] 80s.

[1:02:05] Blowjobs,

[1:02:06] marijuana.

[1:02:07] They just

[1:02:07] didn't know how

[1:02:07] these things made

[1:02:08] people react.

Stuart Wellington

[1:02:09] So then the

[1:02:10] kids show up and

[1:02:11] are like Meathead

[1:02:11] what's going on?

[1:02:12] Meathead obviously

[1:02:13] he was only

[1:02:14] high in the

[1:02:14] figurative sense

[1:02:15] or the literal

[1:02:16] sense I suppose.

S4

[1:02:18] That's how

[1:02:18] aliens get high.

[1:02:19] They literally

Stuart Wellington

[1:02:19] get high.

[1:02:20] Oh that makes

[1:02:21] so much more

[1:02:21] sense.

[1:02:22] Different effect.

[1:02:22] If only Ripley

[1:02:23] had used that

[1:02:24] tactic.

S4

[1:02:24] Same way like

[1:02:25] goats don't get

[1:02:26] poison ivy.

[1:02:26] Wait if Ripley

[1:02:27] had, wait,

Elliott Kalan

[1:02:28] well yeah goats

[1:02:29] don't get poison ivy

[1:02:29] that's right and

[1:02:30] that's why they

[1:02:30] have to eat them.

[1:02:31] So Ripley if

[1:02:32] she had gotten

[1:02:33] the alien like

[1:02:34] super high

[1:02:35] like that would

[1:02:35] have solved the

[1:02:36] problem.

[1:02:37] Because the

[1:02:38] problem is the

[1:02:38] alien is eating

[1:02:39] people right?

[1:02:40] So if it's

[1:02:41] super high it's

[1:02:41] going to eat more

[1:02:42] people right?

Stuart Wellington

[1:02:43] It's going to

[1:02:43] be it'll float

[1:02:44] up to the sky.

[1:02:45] We've already

[1:02:45] addressed what

[1:02:46] the weed and

[1:02:47] effects of weed.

Elliott Kalan

[1:02:47] I mean but she

[1:02:48] kind of does that

Dan McCoy

[1:02:49] I feel like that's

[1:02:50] a lot of work.

[1:02:51] Like in the

[1:02:52] Nostromo I don't

[1:02:53] know what float

[1:02:53] up to the sky

[1:02:54] means.

[1:02:54] It's just going to

[1:02:54] be bumping

[1:02:55] its head up against

[1:02:55] the top of the

[1:02:56] ship.

[1:02:56] There's no up in

[1:02:57] space.

Elliott Kalan

[1:02:57] I mean that's

[1:02:58] the thing and

[1:02:59] then you've got an

[1:02:59] alien that just I

[1:03:00] guess hopefully it's

[1:03:01] a high enough

[1:03:01] ceiling that when

[1:03:01] he lunges at

[1:03:02] you you can just

[1:03:03] duck down you

[1:03:04] know and just

[1:03:04] laugh at him.

Stuart Wellington

[1:03:05] I mean it

[1:03:05] depends on the

[1:03:06] budget.

Elliott Kalan

[1:03:07] Of what the

[1:03:13] kill Harry Dean

[1:03:13] Stanton in that

[1:03:14] room that's full of

[1:03:15] wet chains for some

[1:03:16] reason.

[1:03:17] Dan why does the

[1:03:18] Nostromo a

[1:03:19] spaceship have a

[1:03:20] room full of wet

[1:03:21] chains?

[1:03:21] I don't understand

[1:03:22] what's in that

[1:03:23] room.

[1:03:23] I mean why are

[1:03:24] they shooting the

[1:03:24] grind in that

[1:03:25] room?

Dan McCoy

[1:03:26] Yeah yeah they're

[1:03:26] shooting a prodigy

[1:03:28] video in there.

[1:03:29] I assume that number

[1:03:30] one it's just their

[1:03:31] chain storage room

[1:03:32] okay.

[1:03:33] That's where they

[1:03:33] store their chains

[1:03:33] and number two the

[1:03:34] room is so big that

[1:03:36] it has its own

[1:03:36] condensation that

[1:03:38] creates.

[1:03:38] All right that's

Elliott Kalan

[1:03:39] fair.

[1:03:39] That's better than

[1:03:41] how the trash

[1:03:42] compactor on the

[1:03:43] Death Star has

[1:03:44] both organic waste

[1:03:45] and metal waste

[1:03:46] which means does

[1:03:47] the Empire recycle

[1:03:48] poop?

[1:03:49] And that's like

[1:03:50] they're recycling?

[1:03:51] I don't understand.

[1:03:52] Because if so

[1:03:53] who's the real bad

[1:03:54] guy?

Stuart Wellington

[1:03:54] So the other

[1:03:56] young campers show

[1:03:57] up they realize that

[1:03:58] Flash has already

[1:03:59] seen their friend

[1:04:00] Meathead and you

[1:04:02] know they explain

[1:04:03] everything and

[1:04:04] Flash realizes you

[1:04:05] know maybe he's

[1:04:06] been a bad

[1:04:07] counselor this

[1:04:08] summer.

[1:04:09] Well whatever.

[1:04:11] he even has

[1:04:13] trouble when they

[1:04:14] introduce their

[1:04:15] alien friend as

[1:04:16] Meathead he's

[1:04:17] like Meathead?

[1:04:21] Like they're words

[1:04:23] he's never heard

[1:04:23] before.

Elliott Kalan

[1:04:24] Which is crazy

[1:04:25] because All in the

[1:04:25] Family was a huge

[1:04:26] show when he was

[1:04:27] young.

Stuart Wellington

[1:04:27] So Flash realized

[1:04:29] the only thing he

[1:04:30] can do is volunteer

[1:04:31] to fight in the

[1:04:32] Champ of the Lake

[1:04:32] match.

Elliott Kalan

[1:04:33] Sometimes it takes

[1:04:34] a meeting with an

[1:04:36] alien while you're

[1:04:36] high to get you to

[1:04:37] understand you have

[1:04:38] a responsibility to

[1:04:39] your fellow members

[1:04:40] of your community.

Dan McCoy

[1:04:41] Joseph Campbell

[1:04:42] would call it

[1:04:43] the call.

Stuart Wellington

[1:04:47] He is a

[1:04:49] reluctant hero.

[1:04:50] Yeah of course

[1:04:50] yeah.

[1:04:51] Across the lake

[1:04:52] the head of Camp

[1:04:53] Hatton is walking

[1:04:53] around with a plate

[1:04:54] full of raw meat

[1:04:55] for some reason

[1:04:56] and then back at

[1:04:57] Camp Sasquatch

[1:04:58] Nancy tries to

[1:04:59] trick Flash into

[1:05:00] skinny dipping

[1:05:01] and boy this is

[1:05:02] where things get

[1:05:02] exciting.

Elliott Kalan

[1:05:04] Oh you know what

[1:05:05] that's when they're

[1:05:05] watching the horror

[1:05:06] movie is when they

[1:05:07] talk about skinny

[1:05:07] dipping.

[1:05:08] I apologize.

Stuart Wellington

[1:05:08] So the girls from

[1:05:09] the girls bunk

[1:05:10] trick Flash into

[1:05:11] thinking he's going

[1:05:12] skinny dipping.

[1:05:13] Cheryl thinks she's

[1:05:14] just going to go

[1:05:14] watch Look at the

[1:05:15] Stars.

[1:05:16] There's a lot of

Elliott Kalan

[1:05:16] Big Dipper.

[1:05:17] Yeah there's a lot

[1:05:17] of Big Dipper

[1:05:18] innuendo.

[1:05:19] Oh right.

[1:05:20] She's like where

[1:05:20] can we go see the

[1:05:21] Big Dipper and he's

[1:05:22] like I'll show you

[1:05:23] a Big Dipper.

[1:05:23] I've never heard it

[1:05:24] called that before

[1:05:25] I've only heard

[1:05:26] Pinky.

[1:05:27] Yeah I mean do I

[1:05:28] dip it in?

[1:05:29] I've never done it

[1:05:30] so like is it just

[1:05:30] like a brief dip

[1:05:31] or?

Dan McCoy

[1:05:32] This is a nomenclature

[1:05:33] I'm previously

[1:05:34] unfamiliar with but I

[1:05:35] will assume that it

[1:05:36] refers to my penis.

Elliott Kalan

[1:05:37] I will never at any

[1:05:38] point say so we're

[1:05:39] skinny dipping right

[1:05:40] or otherwise assume

[1:05:41] that we might have

[1:05:42] to confirm what

[1:05:43] we're doing.

[1:05:44] I'll simply take it

[1:05:45] for granted that the

[1:05:46] way Nancy reported

[1:05:47] these events to me

[1:05:48] and your plans are

[1:05:49] accurate in your

[1:05:50] mind even though the

[1:05:51] things you're saying

[1:05:52] seem like they could

[1:05:53] be taken in a more

[1:05:54] innocent direction

[1:05:55] and knowing your

[1:05:56] character and

[1:05:56] personality the way

[1:05:57] you dress the way

[1:05:58] you speak how you

[1:05:59] react to me up till

[1:05:59] now it almost seems

[1:06:00] more logical that

[1:06:02] you're literally

[1:06:02] talking about stars

[1:06:03] you're looking at

[1:06:04] but again I just

[1:06:06] can't even the

[1:06:07] very idea of

[1:06:08] seeing a naked

[1:06:09] female body has

[1:06:10] so suffused my

[1:06:11] brain with the

[1:06:12] inability to think

[1:06:13] logically that I'll

[1:06:14] just again believe

[1:06:15] Nancy a noted liar

[1:06:17] who tricked my best

[1:06:18] friend into streaking

[1:06:19] in a way that almost

[1:06:21] got him killed.

[1:06:23] And again we're

[1:06:23] tough but from the

[1:06:24] streets we've been

[1:06:25] shot at so many times

[1:06:26] before that it barely

[1:06:27] fazed him but again

[1:06:28] I should remember that

[1:06:29] my friend Eddie

[1:06:30] might not exist right

[1:06:32] now because of what

[1:06:33] Nancy told him and

[1:06:34] yet I am so eager to

[1:06:35] see Cheryl without her

[1:06:36] clothes on that I

[1:06:38] will take it on face

[1:06:39] value.

Stuart Wellington

[1:06:40] Do you think Fanny

[1:06:41] would have lost her

[1:06:42] job if she'd shot

[1:06:43] that keeper?

Elliott Kalan

[1:06:45] I don't know.

[1:06:46] It's a good question.

[1:06:47] I mean there seems to

[1:06:48] be a different law that

[1:06:49] applies to some of the

[1:06:50] candidates.

[1:06:50] Is this a stand your

[1:06:50] ground state?

[1:06:51] I don't know.

[1:06:51] I mean it was also

[1:06:52] the 80s so men were

[1:06:53] allowed to do terrible

[1:06:53] things.

[1:06:54] So women probably

[1:06:55] were too.

Stuart Wellington

[1:06:55] So we have a scene

[1:06:56] where there's a little

[1:06:56] bit of will they

[1:06:57] won't they and by

[1:06:58] will they won't they

[1:06:59] mean of course go

[1:07:00] skinny dipping.

[1:07:01] Flash takes off goes

[1:07:02] behind a rock takes

[1:07:03] off all his clothes.

[1:07:04] He jumps in the water

[1:07:06] and what do you know

[1:07:07] of course a giant bear

[1:07:09] shows up and I guess

[1:07:10] starts taking his

[1:07:11] clothes.

[1:07:11] The other girls are

[1:07:12] up in a tree ready to

[1:07:13] watch the bear

Elliott Kalan

[1:07:14] take his clothes off

[1:07:16] that the bear unzips

[1:07:17] and gets in and then

[1:07:18] he's like he has he

[1:07:20] gets water in his eyes

[1:07:21] and he can't see and

[1:07:22] he's feeling the bears

[1:07:23] naked under its first

[1:07:24] skin.

[1:07:25] He's like oh Cheryl

[1:07:26] you're built differently

[1:07:27] than I thought.

[1:07:28] The bear is like

[1:07:29] Cheryl you're such

[1:07:32] an animal.

[1:07:32] And he has sex

[1:07:33] with the bear.

[1:07:34] And that's how

[1:07:36] Teddy Ruxpin was

[1:07:37] born.

Dan McCoy

[1:07:37] That's the plot

[1:07:39] of the Revenant.

Elliott Kalan

[1:07:41] Dan I don't know

[1:07:42] if you watched

[1:07:42] all of the Revenant.

[1:07:45] It took a weird

[1:07:46] turn and by the end

[1:07:47] of it he's married

[1:07:48] to that bear.

Stuart Wellington

[1:07:50] On the next

[1:07:50] soundstage over

[1:07:51] Jamie and Fanny

[1:07:52] are trying to hook

[1:07:53] up.

Elliott Kalan

[1:07:54] It's clearly the

[1:07:54] same soundstage

[1:07:55] slightly redressed.

[1:07:57] They move to the

[1:07:58] bush and the rock.

Stuart Wellington

[1:08:00] Meanwhile we see

[1:08:02] Camp Patton's

[1:08:03] counterinsurgency team

[1:08:05] sneaking into the

[1:08:06] camp.

Elliott Kalan

[1:08:06] Oh I will say

[1:08:07] about that bear

[1:08:08] that happened to me

[1:08:09] once.

[1:08:09] Not skinny dipping

[1:08:09] but I was swimming

[1:08:11] in a creek in

[1:08:12] Montana and a guy

[1:08:13] walked up and was

[1:08:14] like hey you might

[1:08:15] want to move because

[1:08:15] there's a black

[1:08:16] bear coming up this

[1:08:16] way.

[1:08:17] And we were like

[1:08:17] yeah whatever and

[1:08:18] then the black

[1:08:19] bear showed up and

[1:08:19] we were like gotta go.

[1:08:21] So sometimes when

[1:08:21] you're swimming in

[1:08:22] the woods bears show

[1:08:24] up I assume to shit

[1:08:24] there.

Stuart Wellington

[1:08:25] Okay so I guess

[1:08:26] I guess this movie

[1:08:27] checks out.

[1:08:28] Yeah A plus no

Elliott Kalan

[1:08:29] Pinocchios.

Stuart Wellington

[1:08:31] Delete the goof

[1:08:32] section.

[1:08:32] Wait that's the new

Elliott Kalan

[1:08:34] standard of whether

[1:08:35] movie is good or not

[1:08:36] whether it gets

[1:08:37] Yep.

[1:08:38] Ironically Pinocchio

[1:08:39] which should be a good

[1:08:39] movie does not good

[1:08:41] because it has so many

[1:08:42] Infinite Pinocchios.

Stuart Wellington

[1:08:45] So the Camp Patton

[1:08:47] guys kidnap Flash.

[1:08:49] They take a naked

[1:08:50] teenager in with

[1:08:51] their boat.

Elliott Kalan

[1:08:54] And Fox Glove.

[1:08:55] They don't have a

[1:08:57] scene of Fox Glove

[1:08:58] being delighted right?

[1:08:59] No.

Stuart Wellington

[1:08:59] No that's just all

[1:09:00] in your brain.

[1:09:02] So the next morning

[1:09:03] we see the sign for

[1:09:05] Camp Sasquatch is

[1:09:06] hosting the champ of

[1:09:08] the lake competition

[1:09:09] and the sign of course

[1:09:10] reads sold out.

S4

[1:09:12] I take umbrage with

[1:09:14] that.

[1:09:14] Uh huh.

[1:09:15] Yeah.

[1:09:15] Because they don't

[1:09:16] sell tickets to camp

[1:09:17] events.

[1:09:18] Everyone just goes.

[1:09:20] There's no.

[1:09:21] Yeah I mean I guess

[1:09:21] all the people we see

Stuart Wellington

[1:09:22] are campers and

[1:09:23] unless like they have

[1:09:24] to take money out of

[1:09:25] their uh.

S4

[1:09:27] Their canteen accounts.

[1:09:28] Their canteen.

Stuart Wellington

[1:09:28] You're saying that

[1:09:29] just randos in the

[1:09:30] neighborhood can't be

[1:09:31] like I'm going to

S4

[1:09:31] this camp.

[1:09:32] And you don't take

[1:09:32] money out of your

[1:09:33] canteen account.

[1:09:34] You punch a card.

[1:09:35] A card.

[1:09:35] Yeah exactly.

[1:09:36] Thank you.

Elliott Kalan

[1:09:36] But there are randos

[1:09:37] there because like the

[1:09:39] native tribe is there.

[1:09:40] Oh that's right.

[1:09:41] Because the chief is

[1:09:41] there and there's like

[1:09:42] a bunch of like just

[1:09:43] weirdos that assume

[1:09:44] crew members because

[1:09:45] they needed to fill out

[1:09:45] the bleacher extras.

[1:09:47] Yeah.

[1:09:47] So uh.

[1:09:48] But maybe everyone in

[1:09:49] town has a cantina

[1:09:50] account.

[1:09:50] They just punch.

[1:09:51] They usually just go in

[1:09:52] to get an ice cream

[1:09:52] sandwich and punch

[1:09:54] their card.

Stuart Wellington

[1:09:54] But everybody's really

[1:09:56] excited for this match.

[1:09:57] We uh.

[1:09:58] But for whatever

[1:09:58] reason Flash hasn't

[1:09:59] uh shown up and we

[1:10:00] realize why.

[1:10:01] We cut across the

[1:10:02] Camp Patton where uh.

[1:10:04] a naked Flash wakes up

[1:10:05] in Camp Patton

[1:10:06] under no guard

[1:10:08] whatsoever.

[1:10:08] They've all gone to

[1:10:09] the big game.

[1:10:10] He sleeps into

[1:10:12] Foxglove's room where

[1:10:13] he finds a closet full

[1:10:15] of dresses.

[1:10:16] That will matter in a

[1:10:17] moment.

Elliott Kalan

[1:10:18] Oh and now we finally

[1:10:19] find out what that

[1:10:20] raw meat is for.

Stuart Wellington

[1:10:21] The raw meat is for

[1:10:22] Camp Patton's champion.

[1:10:24] That's right.

[1:10:25] A character named

[1:10:26] Ogre played by.

[1:10:28] Not Ogre.

[1:10:28] He's playing uh.

[1:10:30] The character is Mad

[1:10:31] Dog played by the

[1:10:32] man who made the

[1:10:33] role Ogre from

[1:10:34] Revenge of the Nerds

[1:10:34] famous.

[1:10:35] That's Donald Gibb.

[1:10:36] My favorite member

[1:10:37] of the Bee Gees.

[1:10:42] So yeah.

[1:10:43] What a career turn.

[1:10:46] Uh yeah.

[1:10:46] I mean I think it

[1:10:47] shows his vocal range

Elliott Kalan

[1:10:48] right.

[1:10:49] Here's the thing that

[1:10:49] I don't get about the

[1:10:50] Champ of the Lake

[1:10:51] matchup.

[1:10:52] Go on.

[1:10:52] Are we to believe

[1:10:53] that Mad Dog is a

[1:10:54] camper?

[1:10:55] Not Camp Patton.

[1:10:56] He's clearly not.

[1:10:58] Maybe he's a

[1:10:58] counselor.

[1:10:59] Yeah.

[1:10:59] Oh and at one

[1:11:00] point Giddy is like

[1:11:00] I guess I'll do it.

[1:11:01] So it's just whoever

[1:11:02] you hire or bring in

[1:11:03] to do it because

[1:11:04] Mad Dog is presented

[1:11:05] to us as literally

[1:11:06] more animal than

[1:11:07] man.

[1:11:07] I mean originally he

S4

[1:11:07] was supposed to

[1:11:08] fight the van guy

[1:11:09] so.

[1:11:10] Yeah.

[1:11:11] Yeah.

[1:11:12] Boomer.

[1:11:13] Boomer got his arm

Stuart Wellington

[1:11:14] broken by a bunch

[1:11:15] of kids who

[1:11:15] drive the van for

[1:11:15] the camp.

Elliott Kalan

[1:11:17] Oh yeah.

[1:11:17] Maybe he drives

[1:11:18] the Camp Patton van.

[1:11:19] Boomer talks a big

[1:11:20] game and then.

[1:11:21] It's van guy

[1:11:22] versus van guy.

[1:11:23] Boomer talks a big

[1:11:23] game and then

[1:11:24] disappoints everybody

[1:11:25] much like the

[1:11:26] generation that bears

[1:11:27] his name.

[1:11:28] Okay.

[1:11:28] Anyway continue.

[1:11:29] Wow.

Stuart Wellington

[1:11:30] We'll save that for

[1:11:30] another episode where

[1:11:31] we trash baby boomers.

Dan McCoy

[1:11:33] So it looks like

[1:11:35] that would be so

[1:11:37] great.

[1:11:38] This this year's

[1:11:39] Flophouse bonus

[1:11:40] episode for the

[1:11:41] Max fun.

[1:11:42] Stuart just rants

[1:11:43] about baby boomers

[1:11:44] for two hours by

[1:11:46] himself.

[1:11:46] And then he breaks

[1:11:47] down into crying

[1:11:48] complaining about

[1:11:49] his dad.

Elliott Kalan

[1:11:50] I mean that's

[1:11:50] what it comes down

[1:11:51] to ultimately.

[1:11:52] This issue the

[1:11:53] Flophouse bashes

[1:11:54] the boomers.

[1:11:55] That's for Mad

[1:11:55] Magazine.

[1:11:56] Rest in peace.

[1:11:57] Just like

[1:11:57] to go over.

Stuart Wellington

[1:11:58] Anyway.

[1:12:00] everything's curtains

[1:12:01] for Camp Sasquatch

[1:12:02] and then Flash

[1:12:03] shows up wearing an

[1:12:05] aforementioned dress

[1:12:06] that we talked about.

[1:12:07] He gets in a boxing

[1:12:08] match with Mad

[1:12:10] Dog.

[1:12:10] Things are going

[1:12:11] very well for

[1:12:12] Mad Dog.

[1:12:15] They and at the

[1:12:17] end of the first

[1:12:17] round it looks like

[1:12:18] Mad Dog's going to

[1:12:19] win.

[1:12:19] There's a round

[1:12:21] card girl who

[1:12:22] walks around.

[1:12:22] Like a professional

S4

[1:12:23] like sequenced up

[1:12:25] like grown woman

[1:12:27] with a round card.

[1:12:28] This is the joke

Stuart Wellington

[1:12:29] that I mentioned

[1:12:30] earlier where the

[1:12:30] round card girl

[1:12:31] walks by and the

[1:12:32] tribal chief whips

[1:12:33] off his sunglasses

[1:12:34] to get a better

[1:12:35] look.

S4

[1:12:36] I didn't catch that.

[1:12:37] That's a joke you

[1:12:38] liked?

Stuart Wellington

[1:12:39] Oh yeah it's so

[1:12:40] silly and stupid

[1:12:40] because he was

[1:12:41] wearing sunglasses

[1:12:41] inside and then he

[1:12:42] whipped it like

[1:12:43] finally something

[1:12:44] I was looking at.

Elliott Kalan

[1:12:45] Why'd you show up

[1:12:46] dude?

[1:12:48] I guess to see who

[1:12:49] he's going to give

[1:12:49] the rights to the

[1:12:51] lake to.

Stuart Wellington

[1:12:51] Okay so it looks

[1:12:52] like Flash is

[1:12:53] going to lose.

[1:12:54] He gets knocked

[1:12:54] to the ground and

[1:12:55] then Meathead

[1:12:56] intervenes using his

[1:12:58] telekinetic powers

[1:12:59] and he overrides

[1:13:00] Flash's brain and

[1:13:02] he.

[1:13:02] And gravity.

[1:13:03] And gravity and

[1:13:04] begins puppeting

[1:13:04] Flash's body.

[1:13:05] I don't know if he

[1:13:06] overrides his brain.

[1:13:07] I thought he just

S4

[1:13:08] lifted him up so

[1:13:11] that he could.

Elliott Kalan

[1:13:12] Yeah.

[1:13:12] Maybe you're right.

[1:13:13] He just kind of

[1:13:14] flies him around

[1:13:14] and nobody is

[1:13:15] like what is

[1:13:16] going on?

[1:13:17] They're just like

[1:13:18] I didn't know

[1:13:18] Flash could fly.

[1:13:19] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[1:13:20] Cut to the nub

[1:13:21] of my very gist

[1:13:22] Elliot.

[1:13:23] Which is my

[1:13:24] objection to the

[1:13:24] scene.

[1:13:25] Like I know

[1:13:26] this is a silly

[1:13:26] movie.

[1:13:27] I know this is a

[1:13:28] silly movie.

[1:13:29] It's ridiculous to

[1:13:30] get angry over it.

[1:13:31] But like in

[1:13:32] movies like this

[1:13:32] where someone does

[1:13:33] something totally

[1:13:34] like against the

[1:13:36] laws of physics

[1:13:36] no one's ever

[1:13:37] like running out

[1:13:39] in horror.

[1:13:40] No one's screaming.

[1:13:41] No one's like

[1:13:42] questioning their

[1:13:44] own concepts of

[1:13:45] reality.

[1:13:46] Exactly.

[1:13:46] Reality.

[1:13:47] They're like oh

[1:13:48] he can fly.

[1:13:49] That's weird.

[1:13:49] Or like the guy

[1:13:50] from the bad

[1:13:51] campus being like

[1:13:52] he's flying.

[1:13:53] That's against the

[1:13:53] rules.

[1:13:54] It's like what is

[1:13:55] going on?

S4

[1:13:55] And even crazier

[1:13:56] than that do the

[1:13:57] rules of boxing

[1:13:58] not even matter?

[1:13:59] They give him a

[1:14:00] five count and

[1:14:01] he's still on the

[1:14:02] ground and they

[1:14:03] get to just pick

[1:14:03] him up and he's

[1:14:04] going to box again.

Stuart Wellington

[1:14:05] just counting to

[1:14:05] the end of the

[1:14:06] round.

[1:14:06] The match was

[1:14:06] over.

[1:14:07] He didn't get up.

[1:14:08] I thought the

[1:14:09] bell rang before

[1:14:10] the count was

[1:14:10] done.

Elliott Kalan

[1:14:11] I think the

[1:14:11] yeah.

[1:14:12] Oh no it did.

[1:14:12] Sure defense

[1:14:13] meatballs.

[1:14:14] I don't know that

[1:14:14] maybe they contracted

[1:14:15] for a set number

[1:14:16] of rounds and so

[1:14:18] they just needed

[1:14:18] to get him up.

[1:14:19] I don't know

[1:14:19] anything about it

[1:14:20] so I'm going to

[1:14:20] trust you.

[1:14:21] You're right.

[1:14:22] They count to

[1:14:22] five and then

[1:14:23] the bell goes

[1:14:24] but it's not like

[1:14:25] I don't think it

[1:14:25] does cut off the

[1:14:26] count.

[1:14:26] Anyway we're

[1:14:27] going to have to

[1:14:27] go back to the

[1:14:27] tape.

[1:14:28] So Flash is

[1:14:29] flying around with

[1:14:30] very clear wires.

[1:14:31] What you're

[1:14:31] saying is the

[1:14:32] flip side of in

[1:14:32] a horror movie

[1:14:33] when a monster

[1:14:34] shows up and

[1:14:34] everyone assumes

[1:14:35] it's their friend

[1:14:35] in a costume and

[1:14:36] they're like quit

[1:14:37] it.

[1:14:37] And it's like

[1:14:38] this must be

[1:14:38] take place in an

[1:14:39] alternate universe

[1:14:40] where Halloween

[1:14:40] costumes are

[1:14:40] amazing.

[1:14:41] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[1:14:42] Like sitcoms.

[1:14:43] Yeah.

[1:14:44] Like Modern

[1:14:45] Family.

[1:14:45] I must have

[1:14:46] shown up to a

[1:14:47] Roseanne episode

[1:14:48] Halloween episode.

[1:14:49] Where they all

S4

[1:14:50] have costumes that

[1:14:51] none of them can

[1:14:52] afford.

Elliott Kalan

[1:14:53] You hired Rob

[1:14:54] Botten to do

[1:14:54] your costumes.

[1:14:56] In Modern

[1:14:56] Family they'll

[1:14:57] be like we had

[1:14:57] to throw the

[1:14:58] haunted house

[1:14:58] together at the

[1:14:59] last minute.

[1:14:59] And it's like

[1:15:00] the most amazing

[1:15:01] professional

[1:15:01] like the

[1:15:02] Disneyland or

[1:15:03] something like

[1:15:03] that.

[1:15:04] I had to stop

[1:15:05] watching that

[1:15:05] show because the

[1:15:06] characters were

[1:15:06] too rich.

[1:15:07] Couldn't believe

[1:15:07] it anymore.

Stuart Wellington

[1:15:08] Yeah.

[1:15:09] So Flash is

[1:15:10] flying around on

[1:15:11] these obvious

[1:15:11] wires and he

[1:15:12] starts to kind

[1:15:13] of win.

[1:15:13] He's like

[1:15:14] punching Mad Dog

[1:15:15] in the head a

[1:15:15] little bit.

[1:15:16] You know because

[1:15:16] he's flying.

[1:15:17] Because the most

[1:15:17] important thing

[1:15:18] in boxing is

[1:15:19] You can't punch

S4

[1:15:20] someone in the

[1:15:20] top of the head.

[1:15:21] That is illegal.

[1:15:22] It is?

[1:15:23] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[1:15:24] Yeah.

[1:15:24] There are very

[1:15:26] defined rules where

[1:15:26] you can hit

[1:15:27] somebody.

[1:15:27] There's a part

[1:15:28] where they clinch

[1:15:29] and people start

[1:15:29] booing and it

[1:15:31] I was like

[1:15:31] this happens in

[1:15:32] boxing all the

[1:15:33] time.

[1:15:33] I don't think they put

[1:15:34] their legs around

[1:15:35] them.

[1:15:35] Was he doing that?

[1:15:36] Oh that's different.

[1:15:37] That's not okay.

[1:15:38] I mean that's fine if

[1:15:39] they're doing it for

[1:15:40] fun but as a

[1:15:40] boxing match.

Stuart Wellington

[1:15:41] So the evil head of

[1:15:43] Camp Patton notices

[1:15:44] that there's an

[1:15:45] alien in the other

[1:15:46] stands whose eyes

[1:15:47] are glowing so he

[1:15:48] realizes that alien

[1:15:50] is the reason why

[1:15:50] this is their

[1:15:51] winning.

[1:15:51] He says almost

[1:15:53] nothing and he

[1:15:54] runs aside and he

[1:15:55] grabs a hand

[1:15:57] grenade in a room

[1:15:58] full of children.

Elliott Kalan

[1:15:59] Off a kid's belt.

[1:16:00] So here's again

[1:16:01] like you guys are

[1:16:01] saying he doesn't

[1:16:02] see an extraterrestrial

[1:16:03] telekinetic powers.

[1:16:04] My reaction would be

[1:16:05] oh my god I'm

[1:16:06] witnessing the most

[1:16:07] important moment in

[1:16:08] scientific history.

[1:16:09] Maybe my little

Dan McCoy

[1:16:10] argument over the

[1:16:11] ownership of this

[1:16:11] lake is not important.

[1:16:12] We know we are not

Elliott Kalan

[1:16:14] alone in the universe.

[1:16:15] We know they have

[1:16:15] greater power than us

[1:16:16] and understanding our

[1:16:18] vulnerability to this

[1:16:18] I feel like the only

[1:16:20] way I can counteract

[1:16:21] it is not through

[1:16:22] violence because I'll

[1:16:23] never defeat them.

[1:16:23] They have control

[1:16:24] over all matter but

[1:16:25] instead through

[1:16:26] compassion and

[1:16:26] showing them that

[1:16:27] we're worth saving

[1:16:28] and worth protecting.

[1:16:29] You know what?

[1:16:30] I, Bat Jack

[1:16:32] Hershey, I'm going

[1:16:34] to turn Camp Patton

[1:16:35] into a place where

[1:16:35] people learn to love

[1:16:37] each other because

[1:16:38] in this universe

[1:16:38] all we have is

[1:16:39] each other against

[1:16:40] these hostile forces

[1:16:41] or maybe not hostile

[1:16:42] forces but the

[1:16:43] threat of the universe

[1:16:44] is too big for us

[1:16:45] to be divided.

[1:16:46] Instead he's like

[1:16:46] I'm going to blow

[1:16:46] me up an alien.

[1:16:47] And he's like

[1:16:48] he doesn't even go

[1:16:52] into the like I

[1:16:53] got to capture that

[1:16:54] alien.

[1:16:55] It's just like I'm

[1:16:55] going to kill it.

[1:16:56] He's like I'm going

Stuart Wellington

[1:16:57] to kill it and I

[1:16:58] don't care about the

[1:16:59] collateral damage.

[1:17:00] Which is children.

[1:17:02] He sneaks under

[1:17:03] the bleachers with a

[1:17:05] grenade.

[1:17:05] Of course he drops

[1:17:06] the grenade.

S4

[1:17:07] And then the real

[1:17:08] miracle happens.

Stuart Wellington

[1:17:09] What is that?

[1:17:09] Meatball making the

[1:17:11] grenade chase him

[1:17:12] around?

[1:17:12] No.

S4

[1:17:14] Little Earl.

[1:17:15] Uh huh.

Elliott Kalan

[1:17:16] Tommy McPhee.

[1:17:17] Wheelchair bound

[1:17:18] Tommy McPhee.

[1:17:20] Can walk.

S4

[1:17:21] What?

[1:17:21] He musters the will

[1:17:23] to walk just to

[1:17:25] save the camp.

Stuart Wellington

[1:17:26] Yeah.

[1:17:26] That's incredible.

[1:17:27] Yeah.

[1:17:28] Nobody knows he did

[1:17:28] it.

[1:17:29] He doesn't tell

[1:17:30] anybody.

[1:17:30] He doesn't get any

[1:17:30] credit.

[1:17:31] No.

[1:17:31] Not everyone.

[1:17:32] While Meathead's

[1:17:32] getting all the

[1:17:32] bloodheads.

[1:17:33] Because he realizes

[1:17:34] that that man has a

[1:17:36] grenade and he might

[1:17:37] blow up his friend

[1:17:38] Meatloaf for whatever

[1:17:39] his name is.

[1:17:41] Yeah.

[1:17:41] Famous rock star.

[1:17:42] He wills himself to

[1:17:43] walk hoping that

[1:17:44] possibly in the

[1:17:44] ensuing commotion he

[1:17:46] might blow up

[1:17:47] himself.

[1:17:48] And of course that

[1:17:50] takes away Meatball's

[1:17:52] attention for a second.

[1:17:53] Our cat Meatball?

[1:17:54] That's also true.

[1:17:55] I think that's why he

[1:17:56] chose this movie,

[1:17:57] Shirley.

Elliott Kalan

[1:17:57] You're like a movie

[1:17:58] about my cat.

Stuart Wellington

[1:17:59] So Meatball makes

[1:18:00] the grenade with a

[1:18:02] kind of amazing

[1:18:03] special effect.

[1:18:06] Has this floating

[1:18:07] glowing grenade chase

[1:18:08] Hershey out of the

[1:18:10] room.

[1:18:10] I mean amazing is a

[1:18:11] subjective way to

[1:18:12] describe it.

Elliott Kalan

[1:18:14] Nobody notices a

[1:18:15] floating grenade or

[1:18:16] the head of the

[1:18:16] opposing camp whose

[1:18:18] very property is on

[1:18:19] the line during all

[1:18:20] this running out

[1:18:21] after it going

[1:18:21] It's one of these

Dan McCoy

[1:18:23] very 80s special

[1:18:24] effects though where

[1:18:24] the grenade is

[1:18:26] like floating around

[1:18:27] chasing him.

[1:18:28] Dan's tracing it in

Stuart Wellington

[1:18:29] the air for the

Dan McCoy

[1:18:30] listeners of that.

[1:18:30] Yeah.

[1:18:31] And it's also like

[1:18:32] Use the telecaster.

[1:18:33] Draw it on the

[1:18:34] screen.

[1:18:35] It's like animation

[1:18:36] on the cell.

[1:18:37] They've animated

[1:18:38] going red and

[1:18:40] normal color and

[1:18:41] red and throbbing

[1:18:42] red.

[1:18:43] Flash and red.

[1:18:44] Throbbing is also

[1:18:45] where you can use

[1:18:45] I guess.

S4

[1:18:46] That is a

[1:18:47] throbbing grenade

[1:18:49] Elliot.

[1:18:50] Strike that.

[1:18:51] So the grenade

Stuart Wellington

[1:18:52] chases him around

[1:18:53] a corner and

[1:18:53] explodes to kill

[1:18:55] him I can only

[1:18:55] assume.

S4

[1:18:57] But they're only

[1:18:58] camp grenades so

[1:18:59] he survives.

[1:19:00] It's a regular

[1:19:01] camp.

Stuart Wellington

[1:19:01] It's just going to

[1:19:02] wound him.

[1:19:02] It'll blow up his

[1:19:03] pinky.

[1:19:03] Full of whipped

[1:19:03] cream or something.

[1:19:04] Speaking of

[1:19:05] pinkies Flash wins

[1:19:06] the match.

[1:19:07] He's pronounced the

[1:19:08] winner and Mad Dog

[1:19:10] gets up for one

[1:19:11] last coup de

[1:19:13] gras.

[1:19:13] He's about to

[1:19:14] backstab his way

[1:19:15] to victory but

[1:19:16] instead just trips

[1:19:17] and rips the dress

[1:19:18] off of Flash where

[1:19:19] the whole room sees

[1:19:20] his pinky much to

[1:19:21] the acclaim of the

[1:19:22] lady campers.

[1:19:24] They can't control

[1:19:25] themselves.

[1:19:26] And he has the

[1:19:27] dress pulled off

[1:19:28] himself.

[1:19:29] He sees the

[1:19:29] reaction.

[1:19:31] Takes a couple

[1:19:31] beats before he's

[1:19:32] like I think I'm

[1:19:33] naked.

[1:19:34] And then he slowly

[1:19:35] covers himself.

Elliott Kalan

[1:19:36] But in the press

[1:19:37] conference afterwards

[1:19:37] he was like I

[1:19:38] didn't like that.

[1:19:39] I didn't like the

[1:19:39] way they react.

[1:19:40] I started talking

[1:19:41] pretty quick and

[1:19:41] covering myself up

[1:19:42] pretty quick.

[1:19:43] But if you look at

[1:19:43] the tape it was at

[1:19:44] least 12 seconds.

[1:19:46] Topical.

Stuart Wellington

[1:19:49] Sort of.

[1:19:50] I mean it won't

[1:19:50] be topical when

[1:19:51] this comes out.

[1:19:53] everybody's super

[1:19:53] happy.

[1:19:54] It cuts to the

[1:19:54] next day.

[1:19:57] We never find out

[1:19:58] what happens to

[1:19:59] Mad Dog.

[1:19:59] No we have no

[1:20:00] idea.

[1:20:01] But I'm assuming

[1:20:02] he is left to

[1:20:03] rot in a kennel

[1:20:04] in Camp Patton.

Elliott Kalan

[1:20:05] I mean he's

[1:20:06] probably a shaved

[1:20:06] Sasquatch.

Stuart Wellington

[1:20:07] Oh that's actually

[1:20:08] probably where the

[1:20:09] name comes from.

[1:20:09] Just let him

[1:20:09] loose yeah.

[1:20:10] But so it's

[1:20:12] you know it's

[1:20:13] end of camp.

[1:20:15] Meathead is about

[1:20:16] to go home.

[1:20:17] His bunk buddies

[1:20:18] are all sad about

[1:20:19] So the session

Elliott Kalan

[1:20:20] for this camp

[1:20:20] is roughly

[1:20:21] three days.

[1:20:22] Yeah it feels

[1:20:22] like it.

Stuart Wellington

[1:20:23] And of course

[1:20:24] he as he as he

[1:20:26] goes home to meet

[1:20:27] his Jewish alien

[1:20:28] father he tells

[1:20:29] the other other

[1:20:30] campers

[1:20:30] Guta by Mullahs

[1:20:33] something like

[1:20:34] that.

Dan McCoy

[1:20:35] Now Elliot I

[1:20:35] just I want to

[1:20:37] ask did you feel

[1:20:38] proud watching this

[1:20:39] movie saying that

[1:20:41] like did you feel

[1:20:41] like well Charlene

[1:20:43] as well I'm sorry

[1:20:43] Judaism you're like

[1:20:45] oh Judaism must be

[1:20:46] the true religion

[1:20:47] as it is spread

[1:20:47] through the galaxy.

[1:20:48] I mean that's one

Elliott Kalan

[1:20:49] way to read it.

[1:20:50] The other would be

[1:20:51] that Jews can never

[1:20:53] fully be human and

[1:20:54] are instead alien

[1:20:55] creatures that were

[1:20:57] brought here from

[1:20:57] some other place.

[1:20:58] No matter how much

[1:20:59] we try to assimilate

[1:21:00] by wearing raincoats

[1:21:01] and sleeping in

[1:21:02] outhouses.

Stuart Wellington

[1:21:03] They're excited to

[1:21:04] eat hot

[1:21:04] gnupt

[1:21:05] gnupt

[1:21:06] gnupt

[1:21:06] which yeah

[1:21:07] they might have

[1:21:09] all just

Elliott Kalan

[1:21:09] the game from

[1:21:11] the 70s?

[1:21:11] Quite possibly.

[1:21:12] I mean they may

[1:21:13] have well just used

[1:21:14] Yiddish and had

[1:21:15] Jewish foods there.

[1:21:15] The implication I

[1:21:17] think the joke is

[1:21:17] supposed to be that

[1:21:18] like what would be

[1:21:19] more crazy than if

[1:21:20] this alien talked

[1:21:20] like an old Jewish

[1:21:21] man but it really

[1:21:22] does feel like

[1:21:22] alright yeah thanks

[1:21:23] for reinforcing

[1:21:24] that I guess we are

[1:21:25] deviant subhumans

[1:21:26] we're literally a

[1:21:27] different species and

[1:21:28] we should go back to

[1:21:29] our home planet

[1:21:30] although this line

[1:21:31] this does have my

[1:21:32] one of my favorite

[1:21:32] lines in the movie

[1:21:33] which is when he

[1:21:34] goes oh how was

[1:21:34] the how was the

[1:21:35] vacation dad and

[1:21:35] he goes oh he's

[1:21:37] like asteroids a lot

[1:21:38] of space junk it's a

[1:21:39] real mess up there

[1:21:40] and he's like oh

[1:21:41] sorry I hear about

[1:21:41] that dad and it's

[1:21:42] the way he dismisses

S4

[1:21:45] space as a place to

Elliott Kalan

[1:21:47] go it's a real mess

[1:21:48] up there it was

[1:21:49] genuinely the way

[1:21:50] that one of my

[1:21:51] parents would describe

[1:21:52] a trip that they

[1:21:53] take or a restaurant

[1:21:53] they eat at or

[1:21:54] anything that happens

Stuart Wellington

[1:21:55] what's tough is that

[1:21:57] they had to work so

[1:21:58] hard when they're

[1:21:58] doing all that ADR

[1:21:59] work to match the

[1:22:01] the slow moving to

[1:22:03] not moving at all

[1:22:04] mouth parts of

[1:22:05] those aliens

S4

[1:22:06] but I don't

[1:22:06] understand how this

[1:22:07] alien flew all this

[1:22:09] way and then ended

[1:22:10] up in the only not

[1:22:12] Jewish camp yeah

Elliott Kalan

[1:22:13] well that's another

[1:22:14] thing that is that

[1:22:14] camp status watch is

[1:22:15] so non-denominational

[1:22:16] when there are so

[1:22:17] many Jewish camps

S4

[1:22:17] camps are Jewish

[1:22:18] like send your kid

[1:22:19] to the Jewish camp

[1:22:20] there's a and

Elliott Kalan

[1:22:21] there's an offensive

[1:22:21] joke in there that

[1:22:22] I'm not gonna make

[1:22:23] I'm just gonna leave

[1:22:24] it behind and not

[1:22:26] touch it I was not

[1:22:26] going for that but

[1:22:27] many summer camps are

[1:22:29] Jewish but it's yeah

[1:22:30] they should have done

[1:22:30] their research I guess

[1:22:31] my guess is that it

[1:22:33] was just on the way

[1:22:34] to wherever they were

[1:22:35] going yeah and of

[1:22:36] course at this point

Stuart Wellington

[1:22:37] we realize the 87

[1:22:39] minute adventure is

[1:22:40] almost up

Elliott Kalan

[1:22:41] just like the summer

Stuart Wellington

[1:22:49] the movie is almost

[1:22:50] over and we you

[1:22:54] know to get our to

[1:22:55] get one final thread

[1:22:57] tied up Cheryl drags

[1:22:59] flash behind a bus and

[1:23:01] give some a big old

[1:23:03] kiss I guess I'm

[1:23:05] yes closing that

[1:23:06] loop forever and

[1:23:07] then the buses drive

Elliott Kalan

[1:23:09] off she deliberately

[1:23:11] she openly opens up

[1:23:13] the possibility of

[1:23:14] more kissing in the

Stuart Wellington

[1:23:14] future I don't know I

[1:23:15] feel like that's a

[1:23:16] closure of a loop and

[1:23:17] then it continues on in

[1:23:19] cycles forever into

[1:23:21] madness so the buses

[1:23:24] pull away and speaking

[1:23:25] of madness and cycles

[1:23:26] that never end of

[1:23:27] course of course it's a

[1:23:28] ska revival so

[1:23:29] this is there boomer is

[1:23:32] wandering after those

[1:23:33] buses with a canoe on

[1:23:34] his head much to

[1:23:36] giddy's disappointment

[1:23:37] and we the to finally

[1:23:40] close out the loop we

[1:23:42] are gifted with the

[1:23:43] song waiting for the

[1:23:45] summer summer and a

[1:23:46] sun and fun and a

Elliott Kalan

[1:23:48] women so you're saying

[1:23:49] Stuart that much like

[1:23:50] with the Star Wars

[1:23:51] prequels what seems like

[1:23:52] a bad movie is in fact a

[1:23:53] brilliant movie because

[1:23:55] even though it is not

[1:23:55] entertaining it repeats

[1:23:57] things I think you're

Stuart Wellington

[1:23:59] right Elliot also the

[1:24:01] Star Wars movies have a

[1:24:02] really strong stance

[1:24:03] against sand which I

[1:24:06] kind of support okay

[1:24:07] fair fair it's

[1:24:08] everywhere including

Dan McCoy

[1:24:08] your butt so now is

[1:24:11] the point of the

[1:24:12] podcast where we tie

[1:24:13] this part of the show

[1:24:15] up in a little bow by

[1:24:16] making final judgments

[1:24:18] thank you Charlene

[1:24:19] this is a good bad movie

[1:24:21] if it was a joke I

[1:24:22] would have laughed

[1:24:22] no I think you're

[1:24:25] talking about how

[1:24:26] stupid mine is the

[1:24:28] way I put that

[1:24:29] was

Elliott Kalan

[1:24:29] if I could go first

[1:24:31] for a minute I have

[1:24:32] to run and do

[1:24:33] something real quick

[1:24:33] yeah this is a good

[1:24:34] bad movie bad bad

[1:24:34] movie it's a bad bad

[1:24:35] movie there's almost

[1:24:36] no movie in it

[1:24:37] okay good

Dan McCoy

[1:24:38] now that Elliot's

[1:24:40] leaving

[1:24:40] we didn't say we're

[1:24:42] all actually in the

[1:24:42] same room because of

[1:24:43] David last name

[1:24:46] withheld Elliot's

[1:24:47] brother yeah

[1:24:48] his birthday

[1:24:50] his

[1:24:51] wedding

[1:24:51] his

[1:24:52] birthday

[1:24:52] what

[1:24:53] his

S4

[1:24:54] graduation

Stuart Wellington

[1:25:01] his college

[1:25:03] graduation

[1:25:03] Charlene

[1:25:06] it's been a while

[1:25:07] since you've seen

[1:25:08] meatballs too

[1:25:09] it clearly left a

[1:25:10] mark on you that's

[1:25:11] why you picked it

[1:25:11] what do you think

S4

[1:25:12] well I

[1:25:15] actually

[1:25:16] was

[1:25:17] pleasantly

[1:25:18] surprised

[1:25:18] that

[1:25:20] I was a little

[1:25:22] worried picking a

[1:25:23] summer camp movie

[1:25:24] from the 80s

[1:25:25] and while there

[1:25:26] definitely were some

[1:25:28] offensive things

[1:25:29] yeah

[1:25:30] it was not nearly as

[1:25:31] offensive as I thought

[1:25:32] it could have been

[1:25:33] yeah

[1:25:34] there was

[1:25:36] no rape in it at

[1:25:38] all

[1:25:38] that's true

[1:25:39] and

[1:25:41] the highest

[1:25:42] recommendation

[1:25:42] and even the

[1:25:43] like the

[1:25:43] homophobic stuff

[1:25:44] was

[1:25:45] was much

[1:25:46] lighter

[1:25:46] and it almost

[1:25:48] seemed like

[1:25:48] it was isolated

Stuart Wellington

[1:25:49] to the villains

S4

[1:25:49] yeah

[1:25:50] and

[1:25:51] and then

[1:25:52] when

[1:25:53] flash came out

[1:25:54] in the

[1:25:54] dress

[1:25:55] and it was just

[1:25:56] like whatever

[1:25:57] no one even

[1:25:57] really made fun

[1:25:58] of him

[1:25:59] it was just

[1:25:59] kind of like

[1:26:00] fine

[1:26:00] a dress that

Stuart Wellington

[1:26:01] once again

[1:26:02] can I state

[1:26:03] in no way

[1:26:03] would fit

[1:26:04] John Larrakat

S4

[1:26:05] no

[1:26:05] I think it was

[1:26:07] it was

[1:26:08] really stupid

[1:26:09] and fun to watch

[1:26:10] a good bad movie

Stuart Wellington

[1:26:11] yeah

[1:26:12] I think

[1:26:13] I'm gonna back

[1:26:14] you up on this

[1:26:15] a fun

[1:26:15] it was a

[1:26:16] good bad movie

[1:26:17] because it is

[1:26:18] incredibly dumb

[1:26:18] and it is

[1:26:19] in that sweet spot

[1:26:21] of only 87 minutes

[1:26:22] long

[1:26:22] under 90 minutes

[1:26:23] yeah

[1:26:24] and there's some

[1:26:25] dumb stuff

[1:26:26] and like

[1:26:26] yeah

[1:26:27] there's a couple

[1:26:27] of jokes

[1:26:28] that I'm not

[1:26:28] into

[1:26:28] but

[1:26:29] you know

[1:26:30] considering the

[1:26:31] time

[1:26:32] it's not as

[1:26:32] bad as it

[1:26:32] could have been

Dan McCoy

[1:26:33] yeah

[1:26:33] I'm gonna go

[1:26:34] mild good bad

[1:26:35] like I

[1:26:36] the thing is

[1:26:37] for me

[1:26:37] for the age

[1:26:39] I am

[1:26:39] like

[1:26:41] to watch

[1:26:42] a really

[1:26:42] really dumb

[1:26:43] 80s comedy

[1:26:44] that feels like

[1:26:45] again

[1:26:45] it could have

[1:26:46] been on

[1:26:46] USA Up

[1:26:47] all night

[1:26:47] even though

[1:26:48] it wasn't

[1:26:48] a sex comedy

[1:26:49] like

[1:26:49] to watch

[1:26:49] that kind

[1:26:50] of movie

[1:26:50] is like

[1:26:52] like

[1:26:52] lying in a

[1:26:53] hammock

[1:26:54] and having

[1:26:56] a coconut

[1:26:56] drink

[1:26:57] like it's

[1:26:57] so comfortable

[1:26:58] you know

[1:26:59] like it's

[1:27:00] such a pleasant

[1:27:01] feeling

[1:27:02] because of

[1:27:02] all the waves

[1:27:03] of nostalgia

[1:27:04] brings on

[1:27:04] me

[1:27:05] it's such

[1:27:05] a fucking

[1:27:06] terrible thing

[1:27:07] that I

[1:27:08] kind of

[1:27:08] enjoyed it

Stuart Wellington

[1:27:10] it was not

[1:27:10] good

[1:27:10] I don't think

[1:27:11] you have to

[1:27:11] defend yourself

[1:27:12] Dan

[1:27:12] I think

Dan McCoy

[1:27:13] I do

[1:27:14] all the time

[1:27:16] I mean

Stuart Wellington

[1:27:16] I think

[1:27:16] we all like

[1:27:17] our dumb

[1:27:18] guilty pleasures

[1:27:19] and 80s

[1:27:21] TNA comedies

[1:27:21] just happen to be

[1:27:22] yours and

[1:27:22] should make you

[1:27:23] feel a little

[1:27:24] guilty

Dan McCoy

[1:27:24] no there's

[1:27:25] terrible stuff

[1:27:26] in some of

[1:27:26] them

[1:27:26] I recognize

[1:27:28] that

[1:27:28] there's stuff

[1:27:29] this one

[1:27:29] only had

[1:27:29] good stuff

Stuart Wellington

[1:27:30] like aliens

[1:27:31] and

[1:27:31] predators

[1:27:32] yeah

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[1:28:26] these are real

[1:28:27] podcast listeners

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[1:28:29] we took the

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[1:28:33] just tell me

[1:28:34] your impressions

[1:28:35] it's really sexy

[1:28:37] my first thought

[1:28:37] is like

[1:28:38] Radiolab

S4

[1:28:39] definitely something

[1:28:40] popular

[1:28:41] yeah really popular

Elliott Kalan

[1:28:42] a hit show

S4

[1:28:43] but funny too

[1:28:44] like does Tina Fey

Elliott Kalan

[1:28:46] have a podcast

[1:28:46] or the Marx Brothers

[1:28:48] yeah is this podcast

[1:28:49] Radiolab

S4

[1:28:50] but hosted by

[1:28:51] the Marx Brothers

[1:28:51] and sexy

[1:28:52] like Sade

Jordan Morris

[1:28:53] it reminds me of

[1:28:55] Sade

Stuart Wellington

[1:28:55] exactly

[1:28:56] and they're all

[1:28:57] riding in a BMW

[1:28:58] close

Jordan Morris

[1:29:00] but not quite

[1:29:01] take a look

[1:29:02] behind these

[1:29:03] panels

[1:29:03] and then watch

[1:29:06] this rocket

[1:29:07] blast off

[1:29:08] into space

[1:29:08] and

[1:29:10] there's the pies

[1:29:13] we made you

[1:29:13] now

[1:29:14] let's show you

[1:29:15] the podcast

[1:29:16] wow

S4

[1:29:19] it was

[1:29:19] Jordan Jesse Go

Jordan Morris

[1:29:21] hold on

[1:29:22] that was

[1:29:28] 514

[1:29:29] J.D.

[1:29:30] Power and Associates

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[1:29:32] that was really scary

[1:29:33] but compelling

S4

[1:29:34] I guess I should

[1:29:35] definitely subscribe

[1:29:36] to Jordan Jesse Go

[1:29:37] um

Jordan Morris

[1:29:38] yeah

[1:29:39] I'd say so

[1:29:43] a real podcast

[1:29:45] hey there

Stuart Wellington

[1:29:49] Stuart here

[1:29:50] now you guys

[1:29:51] all know

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[1:30:01] well

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S6

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Dan McCoy

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[1:32:46] constantly

[1:32:46] talking

[1:32:46] about

[1:32:46] pinkies

[1:32:47] and I'm

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[1:32:48] what they

[1:32:48] want

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[1:32:51] place for

[1:32:51] looking at

[1:32:52] pinkies

[1:32:52] learning about

[1:32:53] pinkies

[1:32:53] you know

[1:32:54] just find out

[1:32:55] what that

[1:32:55] little guy

[1:32:55] is doing

[1:32:55] on the

[1:32:56] end of

[1:32:56] your hand

Stuart Wellington

[1:32:56] once again

[1:32:57] we're not

[1:32:57] talking about

[1:32:58] baby mice

Elliott Kalan

[1:32:59] no not

[1:33:00] baby mice

[1:33:00] we're talking

[1:33:01] about the

[1:33:01] pinky finger

[1:33:02] okay

[1:33:02] now let's

[1:33:03] talk about

[1:33:04] fingers

[1:33:04] you got your

[1:33:05] thumb

[1:33:05] he's the

[1:33:06] workhorse

[1:33:06] of the group

[1:33:07] he's doing

[1:33:07] the most

[1:33:07] stuff

[1:33:08] and he gets

[1:33:08] the least

[1:33:08] credit

[1:33:09] or the most

[1:33:09] sometimes

[1:33:10] you got your

[1:33:11] pointer finger

[1:33:11] he's good

[1:33:12] in the clutch

[1:33:12] you want to

[1:33:12] identify something

[1:33:13] he's a guy

[1:33:14] to go to

[1:33:14] middle finger

[1:33:15] a bit of a

[1:33:15] bad boy

[1:33:16] he's rude

[1:33:18] and he's got

[1:33:19] tood

[1:33:19] ring finger

[1:33:20] he's got one

[1:33:21] job

[1:33:21] he does it

[1:33:21] mostly well

[1:33:22] and then the

[1:33:23] pinky

[1:33:23] who's kind of

[1:33:23] like the little

[1:33:24] kid

[1:33:24] and so

[1:33:25] I didn't think

[1:33:26] people wanted to

[1:33:26] see him

[1:33:27] again least of

[1:33:27] the fingers

Stuart Wellington

[1:33:27] what is that

[1:33:28] Albert

[1:33:29] Alfred

[1:33:29] what's the

[1:33:30] little kid

[1:33:30] from the

[1:33:31] sitcom

[1:33:31] Oliver

[1:33:32] Hardy

[1:33:33] Oliver

[1:33:33] I mean

[1:33:34] which sitcom

[1:33:35] it's

[1:33:36] one of them

Elliott Kalan

[1:33:38] oh the new

[1:33:39] kid from the

[1:33:39] Brady Bunch

[1:33:40] yeah

[1:33:40] Oliver

[1:33:41] yeah

[1:33:41] now those names

[1:33:42] have been applied

[1:33:42] to children

[1:33:43] throughout time

[1:33:43] you know

[1:33:44] all of those

[1:33:44] names have been

[1:33:45] on a child

[1:33:45] at some point

[1:33:46] so

[1:33:46] pinkylook.com

[1:33:48] for any

[1:33:48] meatballs

[1:33:48] part 2

[1:33:49] fans

[1:33:49] who are

[1:33:49] interested

[1:33:49] in looking

[1:33:50] at

[1:33:50] pinkies

[1:33:50] pinkieslook.com

[1:33:52] and now

[1:33:52] on Squarespace

[1:33:52] according to

[1:33:55] Dan

Dan McCoy

[1:33:55] yes

[1:33:56] and

[1:33:56] the Flophouse

[1:33:57] is also

[1:33:58] sponsored

[1:33:59] in part

[1:33:59] by

[1:34:00] Z-Man

[1:34:00] Game

[1:34:01] oh yeah

[1:34:02] the makers

[1:34:03] of Pandemic

[1:34:04] Rapid

[1:34:04] Response

[1:34:05] not Rampant

[1:34:06] Response

[1:34:06] Rapid Response

[1:34:07] that's a different

[1:34:08] game

[1:34:08] Stuart you play that

[1:34:10] I do play that

[1:34:11] yeah

[1:34:11] look

[1:34:12] disaster has

[1:34:13] struck

[1:34:13] and cities

[1:34:14] around the

[1:34:15] world

[1:34:15] are in desperate

[1:34:16] need of food

[1:34:16] water

[1:34:17] vaccines

[1:34:18] and other

[1:34:19] supplies

[1:34:19] with a specially

[1:34:20] equipped cargo

[1:34:21] plane

[1:34:22] you and your

[1:34:23] team are uniquely

[1:34:24] capable of providing

[1:34:25] life saving aid

[1:34:26] anytime

[1:34:27] anywhere

Elliott Kalan

[1:34:28] Dan can I pretend

[1:34:29] it's the cargo

[1:34:29] plane from

[1:34:30] Tailspin

[1:34:30] that was a pretty

[1:34:32] unique cargo

[1:34:33] plane right

[1:34:33] it was

[1:34:35] in that it was

[1:34:36] piloted by a bear

[1:34:37] now how

Dan McCoy

[1:34:38] did he use

[1:34:39] a little fan

[1:34:40] to skateboard

[1:34:41] on the air

[1:34:42] how did that

[1:34:43] happen

[1:34:43] well it was

Elliott Kalan

[1:34:43] one of those

[1:34:44] shows that

[1:34:44] takes place

[1:34:44] in the future

[1:34:45] and also

[1:34:45] the 40s

[1:34:46] so and they're

[1:34:47] all animals

[1:34:47] who talk

[1:34:48] so I don't

[1:34:48] know man

[1:34:49] a tiger

[1:34:49] is a rich

[1:34:50] businessman

[1:34:50] and a lion

[1:34:51] is a kind

[1:34:52] of absent

[1:34:53] minded

[1:34:53] mechanic

[1:34:53] so I think

[1:34:54] that you're

[1:34:55] asking one

[1:34:55] of many

[1:34:55] questions

[1:34:56] that I

[1:34:56] can't

[1:34:56] answer

Stuart Wellington

[1:34:57] future

[1:34:57] in the 40s

[1:34:58] feels like

[1:34:59] another George

[1:35:01] Lucas autobiography

[1:35:02] title

[1:35:02] but to continue

Dan McCoy

[1:35:05] pandemic rapid

[1:35:05] response is a

[1:35:06] race against

[1:35:07] time

[1:35:07] roll dice

[1:35:07] to create

[1:35:08] supplies

[1:35:09] fly the

[1:35:10] plane

[1:35:10] and make

[1:35:10] deliveries

[1:35:11] to cities

[1:35:11] in need

[1:35:12] as the timer

[1:35:13] counts down

[1:35:13] you must

[1:35:14] quickly coordinate

[1:35:15] and work

[1:35:15] together

[1:35:16] to react

[1:35:17] to new

[1:35:18] disasters

[1:35:18] can you

[1:35:20] save humanity

[1:35:21] in time

[1:35:21] includes

[1:35:22] seven

[1:35:23] unique

[1:35:24] character roles

[1:35:25] and

[1:35:25] 24

[1:35:26] custom

[1:35:27] dice

[1:35:27] increase

[1:35:28] the difficulty

[1:35:29] with more

[1:35:29] city cards

[1:35:30] and add

[1:35:31] crisis cards

[1:35:32] for a new

[1:35:32] challenge

[1:35:33] find out

[1:35:34] more from

[1:35:34] sorry

[1:35:36] find out

[1:35:36] more about

[1:35:38] pandemic

[1:35:38] rapid response

[1:35:39] at

[1:35:40] zmangames.com

[1:35:42] and grab

[1:35:42] your copy

[1:35:43] of the game

[1:35:43] from a target

[1:35:44] near you

[1:35:45] Stuart was shaking

[1:35:46] his head

[1:35:46] so dramatically

[1:35:47] as I

[1:35:47] bungled

[1:35:48] that last

[1:35:49] I feel like

Stuart Wellington

[1:35:49] Dan did

[1:35:50] such a good

[1:35:50] job selling

[1:35:51] it

[1:35:51] I can tell

[1:35:52] that Charlene

[1:35:53] is just aching

[1:35:53] to play board

[1:35:54] games with me

[1:35:55] now

S4

[1:35:55] what is

[1:35:56] the general

[1:35:57] area

[1:35:58] that the

[1:35:59] box

[1:35:59] takes up

Stuart Wellington

[1:36:00] yeah Dan

[1:36:02] does the

[1:36:02] copy

[1:36:03] explain how

[1:36:03] much

[1:36:04] shelf space

[1:36:04] pandemic

[1:36:05] rapid response

[1:36:06] takes up

[1:36:06] it's a pretty

[1:36:06] small box

[1:36:07] to be honest

[1:36:08] it's got a

[1:36:09] lean profile

[1:36:10] yeah

Elliott Kalan

[1:36:11] okay

[1:36:11] except

[1:36:12] but it

[1:36:13] packs a

[1:36:13] big punch

[1:36:14] in terms of

[1:36:14] fun and

[1:36:15] excitement

Stuart Wellington

[1:36:15] yeah it's

[1:36:16] good it's

[1:36:17] fun I've

[1:36:17] talked about

[1:36:18] before

[1:36:18] but it's

[1:36:20] for a

[1:36:21] cooperative

[1:36:22] game I

[1:36:22] think it

[1:36:23] adds a

[1:36:23] couple of

[1:36:24] new twists

[1:36:24] and it's

[1:36:26] great for

[1:36:26] kind of

[1:36:26] players of

[1:36:27] all different

[1:36:27] skill levels

[1:36:28] it's really

[1:36:28] cool

[1:36:28] it's not a

[1:36:29] game that

[1:36:29] drags on

[1:36:29] no

[1:36:30] it's a

[1:36:31] nice slim

[1:36:32] game

[1:36:32] both in

[1:36:34] size and

[1:36:35] length of

[1:36:35] time

[1:36:36] it occupies in

[1:36:36] your life

[1:36:37] time of

[1:36:37] game

Dan McCoy

[1:36:38] oh

[1:36:40] Stuart

[1:36:40] what's that

[1:36:41] I sent you

[1:36:42] a Jumbotron

[1:36:43] oh yeah

[1:36:44] do you remember

[1:36:44] that

[1:36:44] let's talk

[1:36:45] amongst ourselves

[1:36:46] while Stuart

[1:36:47] looks up that

[1:36:48] Jumbotron

[1:36:48] so what did you

Elliott Kalan

[1:36:49] guys talk about

[1:36:49] well I was

[1:36:50] certainly not in

[1:36:50] the bathroom

Dan McCoy

[1:36:53] mostly about how

[1:36:54] we all agreed it

[1:36:55] was a good bad

[1:36:55] movie in

[1:36:57] defiance of your

[1:36:58] will

Elliott Kalan

[1:36:58] you know what

[1:36:59] maybe it is a

[1:36:59] good movie

[1:37:00] I apologize

[1:37:02] I was having

[1:37:03] trouble thinking

[1:37:04] because I

[1:37:04] needed to go do

[1:37:05] something that

[1:37:05] certainly did not

[1:37:06] involve the

[1:37:06] bathroom

Dan McCoy

[1:37:06] but maybe it is

Elliott Kalan

[1:37:11] a good

[1:37:11] the thing about

[1:37:12] Meemals Part 2

[1:37:13] that makes it

[1:37:13] maybe a little

[1:37:14] good bad

[1:37:14] it made me

[1:37:17] what you can't

S4

[1:37:18] see is that

[1:37:18] I literally

[1:37:19] I put a stick

Elliott Kalan

[1:37:20] in the turbine

[1:37:21] that starts up

[1:37:21] the Jumbotron

[1:37:22] so it's trying

[1:37:23] to start up

[1:37:24] but I can't

[1:37:24] that it

[1:37:27] made me

[1:37:28] nostalgic for the

[1:37:28] days when a

[1:37:29] movie didn't

[1:37:29] really have to

[1:37:30] have any

[1:37:30] content

[1:37:31] I watched the

[1:37:32] movie and I

[1:37:32] was like that

[1:37:33] was in theaters

[1:37:34] it was barely

[1:37:35] a thing

[1:37:36] so let's start

[1:37:37] up that

[1:37:37] Jumbotron

Stuart Wellington

[1:37:37] check out the

[1:37:39] hilarious

[1:37:39] you don't know

[1:37:41] Jackie show

[1:37:42] wherever podcasts

[1:37:43] are heard

[1:37:43] that is the

[1:37:43] call to action

[1:37:44] I'll say it

[1:37:44] again in a

[1:37:45] moment

[1:37:45] first order of

[1:37:46] business

[1:37:47] shout outs

[1:37:48] to the very

[1:37:49] best bad movie

[1:37:50] podcast

[1:37:52] wow

[1:37:53] sincerely

[1:37:54] it's weird that

[1:37:55] I'm saying that

[1:37:55] about my own

[1:37:56] podcast

[1:37:56] sincerely

[1:37:58] not trying

[1:37:59] to kiss

[1:38:00] ass

[1:38:00] we really

[1:38:01] do appreciate

[1:38:01] the hundreds

[1:38:02] of entertaining

[1:38:02] hours you've

[1:38:03] provided over

[1:38:04] the years

[1:38:04] second order

[1:38:05] of business

[1:38:06] shameless

[1:38:07] promotion of

[1:38:08] our podcast

[1:38:09] you don't

[1:38:10] know Jackie

[1:38:10] we're three

[1:38:11] friends all

[1:38:13] named Jackie

[1:38:14] who fight

[1:38:15] crime

[1:38:15] take no

[1:38:16] prisoners

[1:38:16] and always

[1:38:18] please that

[1:38:19] booty

[1:38:19] we do none

[1:38:20] of those

[1:38:21] things

[1:38:21] but you can

[1:38:22] catch us

[1:38:23] chewing the

[1:38:24] fat every

[1:38:24] Wednesday on

[1:38:25] your podcast

[1:38:26] app so once

[1:38:27] again call to

[1:38:27] action is

[1:38:28] check out

[1:38:29] the hilarious

[1:38:30] you don't

[1:38:31] know Jackie

[1:38:32] show wherever

[1:38:33] podcasts are

[1:38:34] heard and

[1:38:35] based on the

[1:38:36] description of

[1:38:36] the show I

[1:38:37] don't know

[1:38:37] Jackie

[1:38:38] you may never

[1:38:41] know but I'd

[1:38:41] like to know I

[1:38:42] like that attitude

[1:38:43] and I of course

[1:38:43] like nice words

[1:38:45] about our podcast

[1:38:45] here at the

[1:38:46] Flophouse

[1:38:46] they know how

[1:38:47] to butter us

[1:38:47] up and

[1:38:49] Dan and

[1:38:49] Elliot are

[1:38:50] playing some

[1:38:50] kind of mobile

[1:38:51] game right now

[1:38:51] on their phones

[1:38:52] yeah we're

[1:38:53] texting each other

Elliott Kalan

[1:38:54] yeah boy didn't

[1:38:55] Stuart do a great

Stuart Wellington

[1:38:56] job reading that

[1:38:56] Jumbotron

[1:38:57] oh wow it's so

[1:38:57] nice of you guys

Dan McCoy

[1:38:58] what do we do

[1:39:00] now on this

[1:39:01] podcast

[1:39:01] well next we

[1:39:04] go to letters

[1:39:04] sorry we were

[1:39:06] confused about

[1:39:07] what we were

[1:39:08] each doing

Elliott Kalan

[1:39:08] well I just

[1:39:09] want to double

[1:39:09] check that I

[1:39:09] didn't have a

[1:39:10] Jumbotron to

[1:39:10] read

[1:39:10] oh no you

[1:39:11] didn't

[1:39:11] but why would

[1:39:11] I

[1:39:12] why would I

[1:39:13] ever get to

[1:39:13] read a Jumbotron

[1:39:14] there was only

Dan McCoy

[1:39:15] one and I

Elliott Kalan

[1:39:15] made a call

[1:39:16] and Stuart

[1:39:17] no you made

[1:39:17] the right call

[1:39:18] Stuart's everybody's

[1:39:19] favorite he's the

[1:39:19] party animal

Stuart Wellington

[1:39:20] and Dan knew

[1:39:20] that I was

[1:39:21] gonna kill it

[1:39:21] in the summary

[1:39:22] portion of this

[1:39:23] podcast

[1:39:23] and he's like

[1:39:24] let's just keep

[1:39:25] feeding that beast

[1:39:25] let's keep the

[1:39:27] stew times rolling

Dan McCoy

[1:39:27] yeah um

[1:39:29] we should plug

[1:39:30] our shows I

[1:39:31] suppose that was

[1:39:32] a nice nice

Elliott Kalan

[1:39:34] little rhyme

Dan McCoy

[1:39:34] there shows I

[1:39:35] suppose part of

[1:39:36] why I was

[1:39:36] confused was I

[1:39:37] thought maybe

[1:39:37] that's where you

[1:39:38] were on the

[1:39:39] Flophouse website

[1:39:40] looking up the

[1:39:41] old shows

Elliott Kalan

[1:39:42] well I'll tell

[1:39:42] you about those

[1:39:43] shows we got

[1:39:44] live shows coming

[1:39:45] up in two

[1:39:46] different cities

[1:39:47] you heard me

[1:39:48] two different

[1:39:49] cities the first

[1:39:50] one it's Boston

[1:39:51] well technically

[1:39:52] it's not Boston

[1:39:53] I think it's

[1:39:53] technically Brookline

[1:39:54] but it's close

[1:39:55] enough to Boston

[1:39:56] that we are

[1:39:56] calling it Boston

[1:39:57] and so we are

[1:39:59] gonna be at

[1:39:59] WBUR City Space

[1:40:01] on was it

[1:40:02] September 28th

Dan McCoy

[1:40:04] I am also on the

[1:40:05] website right now

Elliott Kalan

[1:40:05] Saturday we have

[1:40:07] two shows

[1:40:07] the 7pm show

[1:40:09] is still sold out

[1:40:11] the 945 show

[1:40:12] though still has

[1:40:13] tickets so come

[1:40:15] see us late

[1:40:16] night now even

[1:40:17] if you're seeing

[1:40:17] the 7pm show we

[1:40:18] will be doing two

[1:40:19] different shows

[1:40:20] talking about two

[1:40:20] different movies

[1:40:21] so if you

[1:40:22] two different

[1:40:22] presentations

[1:40:23] if you think you

[1:40:24] can stand four

[1:40:26] hours of this

[1:40:27] then just buy

[1:40:30] tickets

[1:40:30] or a fool

[1:40:30] sir

[1:40:31] or madam

[1:40:32] or non-binary

[1:40:33] person

[1:40:34] then buy tickets

[1:40:35] to both those

[1:40:35] shows

[1:40:36] again that's

[1:40:37] in Boston

[1:40:37] Massachusetts area

[1:40:39] it's a Saturday

[1:40:40] 7pm and 945pm

[1:40:41] at WBUR City Space

[1:40:43] and then in October

[1:40:44] Shocktober

[1:40:45] some might call it

[1:40:46] we're gonna be in

[1:40:47] Los Angeles

[1:40:48] that's right

[1:40:48] my hometown

[1:40:49] October 12th

[1:40:50] we're gonna be at

[1:40:51] the Regent Theatre

[1:40:52] we're returning

[1:40:52] but this time

[1:40:53] we're bringing

[1:40:53] something special

[1:40:54] Stuart

[1:40:55] because hopefully

[1:40:56] and Charlene

[1:40:56] I'm asking you

[1:40:57] to really take

[1:40:58] care of him

[1:40:58] hopefully his back

[1:40:59] might keep him

[1:41:00] from traveling

[1:41:00] cross country again

S4

[1:41:01] he's been doing

[1:41:02] all of his back

[1:41:03] exercises

Elliott Kalan

[1:41:04] so just to remind you

[1:41:05] those on the east coast

[1:41:07] or as I call it now

[1:41:07] the least coast

[1:41:08] especially you

[1:41:09] massles out there

[1:41:10] go on September 28th

[1:41:12] to see us in Boston

[1:41:13] 7 o'clock show

[1:41:14] and 945 show

[1:41:15] again 7 o'clock show

[1:41:16] sold out

[1:41:17] and then on October 12th

[1:41:18] we'll be on the west coast

[1:41:19] or as I now call it

[1:41:20] the best coast

[1:41:21] at the Regent Theatre

[1:41:22] that's October 12th

[1:41:23] in LA

[1:41:24] in Boston

[1:41:25] come see us live

[1:41:26] we're gonna be talking

[1:41:26] movies

[1:41:27] and doing presentations

[1:41:28] and then maybe

[1:41:29] just maybe

[1:41:30] making some dreams

[1:41:31] come true

[1:41:31] probably not that last

[1:41:33] well maybe if your dream

[1:41:34] is to see us watch movies

[1:41:35] talk about movies

[1:41:36] probably yeah

Stuart Wellington

[1:41:37] so does the prospect

[1:41:39] of us doing a bunch

[1:41:40] more out of town shows

[1:41:41] fill you with stress

[1:41:42] and dread

[1:41:42] having to herd us

[1:41:44] and corral us

[1:41:44] into make our

[1:41:46] actual showtimes

S4

[1:41:47] I've already booked

[1:41:48] all of the lodging

[1:41:50] so that's off my plate

[1:41:52] and yeah

[1:41:55] I'm wondering

[1:41:56] I'm wondering

S4

[1:41:56] how late

[1:41:57] how late

[1:41:58] the Boston show

[1:41:59] is gonna go

[1:42:00] and how tired

[1:42:01] we're gonna be

[1:42:01] at the end of that

Dan McCoy

[1:42:02] pretty late

[1:42:03] and pretty tired

[1:42:04] and will I fall asleep

[1:42:05] during

S4

[1:42:05] we probably

[1:42:07] will not hang out

Dan McCoy

[1:42:08] with people in Boston

[1:42:08] like we usually do

[1:42:09] we will probably go

[1:42:10] right back to the hotel

Stuart Wellington

[1:42:12] was it during

[1:42:12] the Minneapolis show

[1:42:13] where afterwards

[1:42:14] Charlene was like

[1:42:15] Stuart I didn't fall asleep

[1:42:17] at all during the show

[1:42:18] yeah that was the big

[1:42:19] achievement

[1:42:20] yes I was sitting

S4

[1:42:23] next to somebody

[1:42:24] at a show

[1:42:24] not too long ago

[1:42:25] that was like

[1:42:27] is something wrong

[1:42:28] with her

[1:42:29] because I kept

[1:42:29] nodding off

[1:42:30] she was wondering

[1:42:32] if she was supposed

[1:42:33] to catch me

Stuart Wellington

[1:42:34] and you were like

[1:42:35] no no no

S4

[1:42:36] I'm married to that guy

[1:42:37] I'm sick of him

[1:42:38] sometimes nod off

Stuart Wellington

[1:42:39] I'm just tired

[1:42:40] well she's used to

[1:42:41] hearing my voice speak

[1:42:42] when I read the

[1:42:44] Song of Ice and Fire

[1:42:45] novels out loud

[1:42:46] to her in bed

[1:42:47] and it puts her

[1:42:47] to sleep

[1:42:48] even though I'm doing

[1:42:50] cool character voices

[1:42:51] which is fucking crazy man

Elliott Kalan

[1:42:53] I want to hear

[1:42:53] some of those

[1:42:53] what does Sandor sound like

[1:42:55] he sounds like this

[1:42:55] hey man it's me

[1:42:57] Sandor Clegan

[1:42:58] no way

[1:42:59] what does Brienne sound like

[1:43:00] hey it's me Brienne

[1:43:02] oh I'm a knight

[1:43:03] what about like

[1:43:04] what about Bran

[1:43:05] what about Bran

Stuart Wellington

[1:43:06] hey it's me

[1:43:07] the Thread Crow himself

[1:43:08] Bran Stark

Elliott Kalan

[1:43:10] okay what about like

[1:43:11] Daenerys

Stuart Wellington

[1:43:12] oh it's me

[1:43:13] Daenerys

[1:43:13] watch out for my dragons

Elliott Kalan

[1:43:15] what about like Varys

Stuart Wellington

[1:43:16] oh it's me

[1:43:17] Varys

[1:43:18] watch out for my spiders

[1:43:19] what about like

Elliott Kalan

[1:43:22] there's other characters

[1:43:25] in that

[1:43:25] watch out for me

Stuart Wellington

[1:43:27] Hodor

[1:43:28] wow you're saying

Dan McCoy

[1:43:32] a lot more than

[1:43:33] you normally do

[1:43:33] Hodor

Stuart Wellington

[1:43:34] oh yeah

[1:43:35] this is a part of the book

[1:43:37] you haven't gone to yet

[1:43:38] do I have

[1:43:38] okay cool

Dan McCoy

[1:43:39] anyway

[1:43:41] well that was

[1:43:42] a delight

[1:43:43] let's move on

[1:43:44] to letters

[1:43:45] this first letter

S4

[1:43:48] and I drift off

[1:43:49] tonight

[1:43:49] I land

Elliott Kalan

[1:43:51] who wouldn't

Elliott Kalan

[1:43:54] bring that

Stuart Wellington

[1:43:54] you know nothing

[1:43:56] John Snow

[1:43:57] all right

Dan McCoy

[1:44:01] this one

[1:44:02] from listeners

[1:44:04] this is a thing

[1:44:05] we do

[1:44:05] we answer letters

[1:44:06] from listeners

[1:44:07] thanks for looking

Elliott Kalan

[1:44:07] to me to confirm

[1:44:08] seems like the most

[1:44:09] explanatory title

[1:44:10] you could have for the second

[1:44:11] I just felt like

Dan McCoy

[1:44:11] if a new listener

[1:44:13] came along

[1:44:14] I want to explain

[1:44:14] they'd be like

Elliott Kalan

[1:44:15] letters from listeners

[1:44:16] what could that be

[1:44:17] is it like

[1:44:17] listeners to something

[1:44:19] I don't know what

[1:44:20] he hasn't explained

[1:44:20] they send them what

[1:44:22] giant letters

[1:44:22] I don't know why

[1:44:23] I'm assuming that

[1:44:23] they send them to him

[1:44:24] maybe Dan's just

[1:44:25] guessing what letters

[1:44:26] have come out of

[1:44:27] listeners

Stuart Wellington

[1:44:27] I'm some kind of a person

[1:44:28] who has decided

[1:44:29] for some reason

[1:44:30] to listen to

[1:44:30] two hours of nonsense

[1:44:31] about meatballs

[1:44:33] part two

Dan McCoy

[1:44:34] all right

[1:44:36] thanks for insulting

[1:44:38] our new listener

[1:44:39] Stuart

[1:44:39] our new listener

Elliott Kalan

[1:44:40] who has decided

[1:44:42] that they need

[1:44:42] a new meatball recipe

[1:44:43] and is waiting

[1:44:44] for us to get to it

[1:44:45] here's what you do

Stuart Wellington

[1:44:46] that's Brian Doyle Murray

[1:44:47] hoping to hear

[1:44:48] about his brother Bill

Elliott Kalan

[1:44:49] you make turkey meatballs

[1:44:51] and you put spinach in it

Stuart Wellington

[1:44:52] all right

[1:44:53] kids love it

[1:44:54] sounds great

[1:44:54] sounds good

[1:44:55] it's good

Stuart Wellington

[1:44:55] it's good

[1:44:56] no it tastes delicious

[1:44:57] it's a reference

[1:44:58] to a thing

[1:44:59] my wife and I

[1:44:59] talk about

[1:45:00] oh okay

[1:45:01] I hope the audience

[1:45:02] at home

[1:45:02] really get the most

S4

[1:45:04] maybe my father

[1:45:08] will listen to this episode

[1:45:09] oh yeah that's true

Elliott Kalan

[1:45:11] that's like

[1:45:11] at my brother's wedding

[1:45:13] my sister and I

[1:45:14] made reference to something

[1:45:16] that a tour guide

[1:45:16] in Hawaii

[1:45:17] once told us

[1:45:17] when we were a kid

[1:45:18] when David tried to do

[1:45:19] something he wasn't

[1:45:20] supposed to do

[1:45:20] and I looked at my wife

[1:45:21] like isn't that hilarious

[1:45:22] and I was like wait

[1:45:23] I think you've never

[1:45:24] heard this story

[1:45:24] so I was forgetting

[1:45:25] who knows things

[1:45:26] and who doesn't

[1:45:27] I've been there

Dan McCoy

[1:45:29] is from Nick

[1:45:30] last name withheld

[1:45:32] who writes

[1:45:33] we seem to be

[1:45:34] in a mini

[1:45:35] renaissance

[1:45:35] of monster

[1:45:36] romance movies

[1:45:38] The Shape of Water

[1:45:39] won Best Picture

[1:45:40] and Venom

[1:45:41] has found an audience

[1:45:42] interpreting the

[1:45:43] relationship between

[1:45:43] Eddie Brock

[1:45:44] and the titular

[1:45:45] space monster

[1:45:45] as a romantic one

Elliott Kalan

[1:45:47] this is a very

[1:45:48] mini renaissance

Dan McCoy

[1:45:49] vampires and werewolves

[1:45:50] have been seen

[1:45:51] as sexy

[1:45:52] for decades

[1:45:53] and now Gilman

[1:45:55] and alien parasites

[1:45:56] have a seat

[1:45:57] at the table

[1:45:57] but what's your

[1:45:58] dream monster

[1:45:59] romance product

[1:46:00] project

[1:46:01] sorry

[1:46:02] not product

[1:46:02] no no

Elliott Kalan

[1:46:04] it's a blow up

[1:46:05] Godzilla

[1:46:06] I can have sex with

[1:46:07] is that the product

[1:46:07] I'm supposed to have

[1:46:08] what is your dream

[1:46:09] monster

[1:46:10] I have a blow up

[1:46:10] Godzilla

[1:46:11] when I try to

[1:46:11] put something

[1:46:12] when I try to

[1:46:13] insert into it

[1:46:13] it pops in

Dan McCoy

[1:46:14] dream monster

[1:46:20] romance

[1:46:21] project

[1:46:22] what monster

[1:46:23] or monsters

[1:46:24] would play the

[1:46:25] leading role

[1:46:25] would it be a

[1:46:26] straight romance

[1:46:27] a gay or lesbian

[1:46:27] one

[1:46:28] and is the world

[1:46:29] finally ready

[1:46:29] for your

[1:46:30] Babadook and

[1:46:31] Pennywise on

[1:46:32] Fire Island

[1:46:33] pitch

[1:46:33] keep up the good

[1:46:34] work

[1:46:35] Nick

[1:46:35] last name

[1:46:36] withheld

[1:46:36] I mean I

[1:46:36] assume that's

[1:46:37] what it part 2

[1:46:37] is about

Stuart Wellington

[1:46:38] yeah we

[1:46:38] probably got to

[1:46:39] slap a couple

[1:46:39] of fat TMs

[1:46:40] on this next

[1:46:41] segment

[1:46:41] right

[1:46:42] when he steals

[1:46:43] our cool ideas

[1:46:44] oh I thought

[1:46:44] you meant

Elliott Kalan

[1:46:44] because we

[1:46:45] were talking

[1:46:45] about copyright

[1:46:46] characters

[1:46:46] oh yeah

[1:46:47] that's true

Dan McCoy

[1:46:47] I mean I

[1:46:48] don't know

[1:46:48] what kind

[1:46:49] of characters

[1:46:49] because we're

[1:46:51] talking about

[1:46:51] copyright characters

[1:46:52] if we slap

[1:46:53] TMs on it

[1:46:53] that means

[1:46:54] they're ours

[1:46:54] now

[1:46:55] no

[1:46:55] that's not

Stuart Wellington

[1:46:58] how TMs

[1:46:58] work

[1:46:59] we get my

[1:46:59] attorney in the

[1:47:00] line

[1:47:00] he does

[1:47:01] it's good

[1:47:01] no really

[1:47:02] we got one

[1:47:03] of those

[1:47:04] stretchy

[1:47:04] stickamans

[1:47:06] we got out

[1:47:07] of a gachapon

[1:47:07] machine

[1:47:08] that we

[1:47:08] put the TM

[1:47:09] on it

[1:47:10] okay

[1:47:10] so speaking

[1:47:12] of gachapon

[1:47:12] machines

[1:47:13] I think

[1:47:15] my fantasy

[1:47:15] monster

[1:47:16] romance

[1:47:17] set in

[1:47:18] ye olden

[1:47:19] fantasy times

[1:47:20] and it

[1:47:22] is a romance

[1:47:22] between

[1:47:23] an animated

[1:47:25] suit of armor

[1:47:26] that maybe

[1:47:27] has

[1:47:27] you know

[1:47:28] like somebody's

[1:47:29] spirit

[1:47:29] stuck to it

[1:47:32] it's been

[1:47:33] animated by

[1:47:34] an evil wizard

[1:47:35] who's trying

[1:47:36] to protect

[1:47:37] a tower

[1:47:37] or I don't

[1:47:38] know

[1:47:38] maybe

[1:47:39] is a fortune

[1:47:39] or something

[1:47:40] and that

[1:47:41] suit of

[1:47:42] living armor

[1:47:43] starts a

[1:47:45] loving relationship

[1:47:46] with kind of

[1:47:48] an ooze

[1:47:48] or a jelly

[1:47:49] or a gelatinous

[1:47:50] cube

[1:47:51] that normally

[1:47:51] just devours

[1:47:52] the bodies

[1:47:53] of adventurers

[1:47:54] who sneak

[1:47:55] into this tower

[1:47:55] and are killed

[1:47:56] by the living armor

[1:47:57] but then like

[1:47:58] they realize

[1:47:59] that the two

[1:47:59] of them

[1:48:00] you know

[1:48:00] they kind of

[1:48:01] feel a need

[1:48:02] in the other

[1:48:03] like the

[1:48:03] suit of armor

[1:48:06] can't feel

[1:48:06] anything at all

[1:48:07] it's just

[1:48:08] iron and

[1:48:09] steel

[1:48:09] whereas the

[1:48:10] gelatinous cube

[1:48:12] is basically

[1:48:12] just like

[1:48:13] nothing but

[1:48:13] sensation

[1:48:14] and like

[1:48:15] maybe the

[1:48:16] maybe the

[1:48:17] blob like

[1:48:18] slips through

[1:48:19] the cracks

[1:48:20] of the armor

[1:48:20] and like

[1:48:21] fills up

[1:48:23] the armor

[1:48:23] in a way

[1:48:24] like

[1:48:24] at the same

[1:48:26] time feels

[1:48:26] protected

[1:48:27] by the armor

[1:48:28] as for your

[1:48:29] question about

[1:48:30] is it

[1:48:30] straight or gay

[1:48:31] I think that's

[1:48:32] unrelated

[1:48:32] and unnecessary

[1:48:33] because it

[1:48:34] could kind

[1:48:34] of be

[1:48:34] almost

[1:48:36] why you would

[1:48:36] limit yourself

[1:48:37] to gendering

Elliott Kalan

[1:48:38] your story

[1:48:39] was so close

[1:48:40] to Calvino's

[1:48:41] the non-existent

[1:48:41] knight until

[1:48:42] that gelatinous

[1:48:43] cube came in

[1:48:43] I was going to

[1:48:45] be like

[1:48:45] Stuart

[1:48:45] that's what

S4

[1:48:46] I was going to

[1:48:46] say

[1:48:47] I mean

Elliott Kalan

[1:48:50] one thing I'll

[1:48:51] say is

[1:48:51] the Gill Man

[1:48:51] has always been

[1:48:52] sexy

[1:48:52] so let's

[1:48:53] just put a

[1:48:54] pin in that

[1:48:55] okay

[1:48:55] you don't

[1:48:56] make it

[1:48:57] sexy

[1:48:57] I mean

[1:48:57] the Gill Man

Stuart Wellington

[1:48:58] used to have

[1:48:58] that kind

[1:48:58] of like

[1:48:59] that like

[1:49:00] constantly frowning

[1:49:01] mouth

[1:49:02] kind of like

[1:49:02] the George

[1:49:03] Gremlin

[1:49:04] from Gremlins 2

[1:49:04] yeah

[1:49:05] just like

[1:49:06] one that looks

[1:49:06] like

[1:49:07] yeah

[1:49:07] it looks like

[1:49:09] John Taffer

[1:49:09] from Fire Rescue

Elliott Kalan

[1:49:10] yeah

[1:49:11] but it was like

[1:49:13] very pouty

[1:49:13] it was like a

[1:49:14] pouty Gill Man

[1:49:15] mouth

[1:49:15] yeah I'm into it

[1:49:16] yeah

[1:49:18] I've always wondered

[1:49:20] about the relationship

[1:49:20] between Gamera

[1:49:21] and all those

[1:49:22] little Japanese

[1:49:23] kids

[1:49:23] wow

[1:49:23] that he has

[1:49:24] a relationship

Stuart Wellington

[1:49:24] but maybe like

[1:49:27] kids grows up

[1:49:28] becomes a

[1:49:29] I guess legal

[1:49:29] age in this

[1:49:30] case

[1:49:30] to romance

[1:49:31] a monster

[1:49:32] is that what

[1:49:33] you're talking

[1:49:33] about

Elliott Kalan

[1:49:34] I literally

[1:49:35] wrote a short

[1:49:36] story once

[1:49:36] and I've not

[1:49:37] found

[1:49:37] it wasn't

[1:49:38] very good

[1:49:38] I haven't

[1:49:39] found the

[1:49:39] right thing

[1:49:39] but where

[1:49:40] that's a

[1:49:40] date between

[1:49:41] basically a

[1:49:42] woman who

[1:49:42] just experienced

[1:49:44] King Kong

[1:49:44] and a

[1:49:46] grown up

[1:49:46] kid from

[1:49:47] Gamera

[1:49:48] and just that

[1:49:48] they're these

[1:49:49] two characters

[1:49:49] who

[1:49:50] they're the only

[1:49:51] ones who can

[1:49:51] really relate to

[1:49:52] each other's

[1:49:52] experiences

[1:49:53] because they're

[1:49:53] the only people

[1:49:54] who've had

[1:49:54] these experiences

[1:49:54] with monsters

[1:49:55] that were both

[1:49:56] terrifying but also

[1:49:57] very strangely

[1:49:58] intimate

[1:49:58] and I could

[1:50:00] never really

[1:50:00] pull it off

[1:50:01] gentle also

[1:50:02] in a way

Stuart Wellington

[1:50:02] like defenders

[1:50:03] of children

Elliott Kalan

[1:50:04] I mean Gamera

[1:50:05] is very much

[1:50:05] a defender of

[1:50:05] children

[1:50:06] King Kong

[1:50:06] is just out

[1:50:08] for what

[1:50:08] King Kong

[1:50:08] wants

[1:50:09] to get as

[1:50:10] tall as

[1:50:10] possible

[1:50:11] yeah to get

[1:50:12] as high as

[1:50:12] possible

[1:50:12] which he just

[1:50:14] needs to

[1:50:14] take some

[1:50:15] marijuana I

[1:50:15] guess and

[1:50:16] make it

[1:50:16] make him

[1:50:17] float if

[1:50:18] he's an

[1:50:18] alien

[1:50:18] well why

[1:50:19] couldn't

[1:50:19] King Kong

[1:50:19] be an

[1:50:20] alien

[1:50:20] huh

[1:50:20] Hollywood

[1:50:21] give me

[1:50:22] the job

[1:50:22] for your

[1:50:22] movie

[1:50:23] King Kong

[1:50:23] in space

Dan McCoy

[1:50:24] I'm just

[1:50:27] going to pick

[1:50:27] two monsters

[1:50:28] I like

[1:50:29] I'm going to

[1:50:30] say the

[1:50:31] spider gremlin

[1:50:32] and the tarman

[1:50:33] zombie from

[1:50:34] Return of the

[1:50:35] Living Dead

[1:50:35] go out on a

[1:50:37] date

[1:50:38] you know they

[1:50:39] find each other

[1:50:39] on hinge

[1:50:40] sure

[1:50:41] they got

[1:50:42] friends

[1:50:43] they got

[1:50:44] mutuals

[1:50:45] I hear

[1:50:45] that there's

[1:50:46] a good

[1:50:46] place that

[1:50:46] does like a

[1:50:47] like a

[1:50:47] lobster roll

[1:50:48] near us

[1:50:48] yeah

[1:50:49] we'll check

[1:50:50] it out

Stuart Wellington

[1:50:50] tarman and

[1:50:50] Robert Picardo

[1:50:51] went to college

[1:50:53] together

[1:50:53] so they're

Dan McCoy

[1:50:55] Facebook friends

[1:50:55] so they met

Stuart Wellington

[1:50:56] at the wedding

[1:50:57] between Robert

Dan McCoy

[1:50:57] Picardo and

[1:50:58] the lady

[1:50:58] gremlin

[1:50:58] yeah

[1:50:59] and they

[1:51:00] you know

[1:51:01] they

[1:51:01] eventually

[1:51:01] they

[1:51:02] you know

[1:51:02] marry

[1:51:03] get together

[1:51:03] have really

[1:51:05] they have

[1:51:07] really gooey

[1:51:08] little

[1:51:09] spider grown

[1:51:10] ones

Stuart Wellington

[1:51:11] oh yeah

[1:51:11] like kind

[1:51:11] of a sad

[1:51:12] like revolutionary

[1:51:13] road type

[1:51:14] thing

[1:51:14] oh

Elliott Kalan

[1:51:15] really

[1:51:16] so which

[1:51:17] one is

[1:51:18] DiCaprio

[1:51:18] which one is

[1:51:19] Winslet in that

[1:51:20] scenario

[1:51:20] I'll let you

[1:51:21] figure that one

Dan McCoy

[1:51:21] out

[1:51:22] Charlene I'm

[1:51:22] sure you have

[1:51:23] lots of

[1:51:23] thoughts on

S4

[1:51:24] this

[1:51:24] well so

[1:51:25] so Dan

[1:51:27] sent me a

[1:51:28] part of this

[1:51:29] question ahead

[1:51:30] of time

[1:51:30] Dan is not

[1:51:31] very good at

[1:51:31] giving us the

[1:51:32] context for

[1:51:33] questions

[1:51:33] so I wouldn't

[1:51:34] be caught off

[1:51:34] guard

[1:51:35] and I'm not

[1:51:37] that familiar

[1:51:37] with monsters

[1:51:39] so I thought

[1:51:40] you just wanted

[1:51:41] us to ship

[1:51:41] two monsters

[1:51:42] yeah

[1:51:43] that's basically

[1:51:43] what we're

[1:51:44] doing

[1:51:44] okay

[1:51:45] so

[1:51:48] that many

[1:51:49] and I had

[1:51:50] already picked

[1:51:50] the lady gremlin

[1:51:51] and you just

[1:51:51] mentioned her

[1:51:52] so

[1:51:52] that's okay

[1:51:53] but I was

[1:51:54] gonna ship her

[1:51:55] with you know

[1:51:56] the guy

[1:51:57] from the

[1:51:57] Muppet movies

[1:51:58] that like

[1:51:59] they always

[1:51:59] leave without

[1:52:00] they always

[1:52:01] leave

[1:52:01] is that

[1:52:01] Sweetums

[1:52:02] the one who's

[1:52:02] like oh yeah

[1:52:03] go get my

[1:52:04] bag

[1:52:04] and he comes

[1:52:04] out and he's

[1:52:05] like guys

[1:52:05] yeah

[1:52:06] him and the

[1:52:06] lady gremlin

[1:52:07] so the

[1:52:08] Muppets leave

Stuart Wellington

[1:52:08] and Sweetums

[1:52:09] is standing

[1:52:09] there

[1:52:10] and as the

[1:52:11] Muppets bus

[1:52:11] pulls away

[1:52:12] like what

[1:52:13] like don't you

[1:52:13] forget about

[1:52:14] me

[1:52:14] they don't have

[1:52:15] the bus

[1:52:15] at that point

[1:52:16] and they

[1:52:16] that's why

[1:52:17] they're there

Elliott Kalan

[1:52:18] is because

[1:52:18] they're getting

[1:52:19] a car

[1:52:19] that's where

[1:52:20] they buy

[1:52:20] the

[1:52:21] no a

[1:52:21] hot pink

[1:52:22] Angeline

[1:52:23] style

[1:52:24] convertible

[1:52:25] drives up

[1:52:26] and the

[1:52:27] looks out

[1:52:28] at Sweetums

[1:52:28] and lowers

[1:52:29] her shades

[1:52:30] and goes

[1:52:30] mmm

[1:52:31] and you know

[1:52:34] romance begins

[1:52:35] did Frank Oz

[1:52:35] do the voice

[1:52:36] for the

[1:52:39] and Bride of

[1:52:39] Frankenstein

[1:52:40] are also

[1:52:40] Thelma and

[1:52:41] Louising at

[1:52:41] that moment

[1:52:42] oh cool

S4

[1:52:42] so that's

[1:52:44] does that make

[1:52:45] Sweetums

[1:52:45] the Brad Pitt

Elliott Kalan

[1:52:46] Sweetums is

[1:52:47] very much the

[1:52:48] Brad Pitt

[1:52:48] oh no

S4

[1:52:49] he's a bad

[1:52:50] guy

[1:52:50] that all

[1:52:51] works out

[1:52:52] for him

[1:52:52] right

[1:52:52] you know

[1:52:52] he's a rogue

[1:52:53] it works out

[1:52:54] for everyone

[1:52:55] it works out

[1:52:55] for everybody

Stuart Wellington

[1:52:55] yeah

[1:52:56] happy endings

[1:52:56] all around

[1:52:57] that uh

[1:52:59] that's like a

[1:53:00] Sarlacc Pit

[1:53:00] type ending

[1:53:01] right

[1:53:01] uh

[1:53:02] I mean

[1:53:03] in that

[1:53:03] if someone

[1:53:04] falls into

[1:53:04] something

[1:53:05] yeah but

[1:53:05] then they

[1:53:06] they get

[1:53:06] they blast

[1:53:07] their way

[1:53:08] out in the

[1:53:08] uh

[1:53:09] the extended

[1:53:09] universe

[1:53:10] stuff right

[1:53:10] yeah sure

[1:53:11] yeah

[1:53:11] they blast

[1:53:12] their way

[1:53:12] out of the

[1:53:13] Grand Canyon

[1:53:13] I also like

[1:53:14] the idea

Dan McCoy

[1:53:14] that's like

[1:53:15] a Hollywood

[1:53:16] phrase that

[1:53:16] people say

[1:53:17] and then you

[1:53:18] know it's

[1:53:18] got a

[1:53:18] Sarlacc Pit

[1:53:19] ending

[1:53:20] it's like

Elliott Kalan

[1:53:20] Jump the

[1:53:20] Shark

[1:53:21] is Sarlacc

[1:53:21] ending

[1:53:22] yeah

[1:53:22] so we get

[1:53:24] the characters

[1:53:24] and where

[1:53:24] they go

[1:53:25] Sarlacc

[1:53:25] Pit

[1:53:25] Sarlacc

[1:53:26] Pit

[1:53:26] Sarlacc

[1:53:26] Pit

[1:53:27] end of the

[1:53:27] day

[1:53:27] everybody's

[1:53:28] happy

Stuart Wellington

[1:53:28] okay so

[1:53:29] now we

[1:53:29] end TM

[1:53:30] okay

[1:53:30] so just

[1:53:32] ending that

[1:53:32] ellipsis

Elliott Kalan

[1:53:33] this

[1:53:34] oh well I

[1:53:35] just I had

[1:53:35] one more

[1:53:35] actually I had

[1:53:36] one more

[1:53:36] thing

[1:53:36] and we can

[1:53:37] reopen the

[1:53:37] TM's

[1:53:38] the alien

[1:53:38] and the

[1:53:39] predator

[1:53:39] both have

[1:53:39] weird mouths

[1:53:40] but they

[1:53:40] seem like

[1:53:41] they'd be

[1:53:41] able to kiss

[1:53:41] each other

[1:53:42] so

[1:53:42] why are you

Stuart Wellington

[1:53:43] always

[1:53:43] versusing

Elliott Kalan

[1:53:44] why are you

[1:53:45] always pitting

[1:53:45] aliens and

[1:53:46] predators

[1:53:46] against each

[1:53:46] other when

[1:53:47] they're a

[1:53:47] true match

[1:53:47] I've mentioned

Stuart Wellington

[1:53:48] this before

[1:53:48] on the podcast

[1:53:49] I'm sure

[1:53:49] but there's

[1:53:50] the moment

[1:53:50] where in

[1:53:51] the first

[1:53:52] alien vs

[1:53:52] predator

[1:53:53] movie where

[1:53:53] it seems

[1:53:54] like destined

[1:53:56] like our

[1:53:56] female lead

[1:53:57] and the

[1:53:57] predator are

[1:53:59] going to kiss

[1:53:59] and they don't

[1:54:00] and if they

[1:54:01] had I would have

[1:54:01] loved that movie

[1:54:02] forever

Elliott Kalan

[1:54:05] maybe you

[1:54:05] know what

[1:54:06] the lady

[1:54:06] Cenobite

[1:54:07] from Hellraiser

[1:54:08] which is

Stuart Wellington

[1:54:08] that's her

[1:54:09] technical name

[1:54:10] according to

[1:54:10] the internet

Elliott Kalan

[1:54:11] female Cenobite

[1:54:12] just match her

[1:54:13] up with Bill

[1:54:13] Pullman from

[1:54:14] Mr. Wrong

[1:54:15] starring Ellen

[1:54:15] DeGeneres

[1:54:16] he is a

[1:54:19] stalker

[1:54:19] he is a

[1:54:20] monster

[1:54:20] he's a

[1:54:21] crazy person

[1:54:21] it's not a

[1:54:22] funny movie

[1:54:22] because it's

[1:54:23] genuinely

[1:54:23] kind of

[1:54:23] frightening

[1:54:24] and also

[1:54:25] the jokes

[1:54:26] are not good

[1:54:26] but you know

[1:54:27] why not

[1:54:27] match them

Stuart Wellington

[1:54:27] up

[1:54:28] so

[1:54:29] MTM

[1:54:29] TMTM

[1:54:30] Mary Tyler

[1:54:31] Moore

[1:54:31] Productions

[1:54:32] so this

Dan McCoy

[1:54:34] next letter

[1:54:35] is from

[1:54:36] Ryan

[1:54:36] last name

[1:54:36] withheld

[1:54:37] who writes

[1:54:38] I was in a

[1:54:38] gift shop

[1:54:40] in Park City

[1:54:42] during a trip

[1:54:43] with some friends

[1:54:44] when I spotted

[1:54:44] a gift mug

[1:54:45] that was inscribed

[1:54:46] with a quote

[1:54:46] eat drink

[1:54:48] and be merry

[1:54:48] for tomorrow

[1:54:49] you may be

[1:54:50] in Utah

[1:54:50] I turned to

[1:54:52] my friend

[1:54:52] and said

[1:54:52] hey look at

[1:54:53] this cool

[1:54:53] reference to

[1:54:54] that awesome

[1:54:54] Dave Matthews

[1:54:55] band song

[1:54:56] my friend

[1:54:57] informed me

[1:54:57] that the

[1:54:58] original quote

[1:54:58] was from

[1:54:59] the Bible

[1:55:00] in a similar

[1:55:02] vein

[1:55:02] I mean

[1:55:03] DMB is kind

[1:55:03] of the Bible

[1:55:04] for a lot

[1:55:04] of bros

[1:55:04] out there

[1:55:05] in a similar

[1:55:06] vein

[1:55:06] in the lacrosse

[1:55:07] community

[1:55:07] I recently

[1:55:08] watched the

[1:55:09] 1942 film

[1:55:10] To Be or Not

[1:55:11] To Be

[1:55:11] and realized

[1:55:12] it was a

[1:55:12] clear source

[1:55:13] of inspiration

[1:55:14] for some of

[1:55:15] Tarantino's

[1:55:15] Inglorious

[1:55:16] Bastards

[1:55:17] can you

[1:55:18] recall any

[1:55:19] moments when

[1:55:19] you discovered

[1:55:20] that an idea

[1:55:21] or piece

[1:55:21] of culture

[1:55:22] from a movie

[1:55:22] that you

[1:55:23] thought was

[1:55:23] entirely

[1:55:24] original

[1:55:24] actually had

[1:55:25] its roots

[1:55:26] in an earlier

[1:55:26] movie

[1:55:27] or work of

[1:55:28] art

[1:55:28] keep on

[1:55:29] flopping

[1:55:29] in the free

[1:55:30] world

[1:55:30] Ryan

[1:55:30] last name

[1:55:31] withheld

[1:55:31] you know

Stuart Wellington

[1:55:35] this doesn't

[1:55:36] exactly answer

[1:55:37] the question

[1:55:38] but the thing

[1:55:39] that I've seen

[1:55:41] a lot is

[1:55:41] when I have

[1:55:43] either me

[1:55:44] or a friend

[1:55:44] has really

[1:55:45] loved a

[1:55:46] cover song

[1:55:47] thinking it

[1:55:47] was the

[1:55:48] original

[1:55:48] and then

[1:55:48] being sad

[1:55:50] when they

[1:55:50] found

[1:55:50] like my

[1:55:51] favorite

[1:55:51] Judas Priest

[1:55:52] song for

[1:55:53] the longest

[1:55:53] time was

[1:55:54] Diamonds

[1:55:55] and Rust

[1:55:55] which is not

[1:55:57] a Judas

[1:55:58] Priest

[1:55:58] original

[1:55:58] but it's

[1:55:59] great

[1:55:59] and it

[1:55:59] totally

[1:56:00] fits

[1:56:00] that

[1:56:00] band

[1:56:00] and also

[1:56:02] like

[1:56:02] I had

[1:56:03] a friend

[1:56:04] who was

[1:56:05] talking

[1:56:06] nonstop

[1:56:07] about his

[1:56:08] favorite song

[1:56:08] off of the

[1:56:09] Crow soundtrack

[1:56:10] the Nine Inch Nails

[1:56:11] cover the song

[1:56:12] Dead Souls

[1:56:13] and when I told him

[1:56:14] it was originally

[1:56:14] a Joy Division

[1:56:15] song he was

[1:56:15] like visibly

[1:56:17] depressed

[1:56:18] don't look at me

Dan McCoy

[1:56:22] next

[1:56:22] because I'm

[1:56:23] still thinking

[1:56:24] I had this

[1:56:25] letter

[1:56:25] longer than

[1:56:26] any of the

[1:56:27] rest of you

Elliott Kalan

[1:56:28] didn't have a

[1:56:30] wedding to

[1:56:30] best man at

[1:56:31] keeping you

[1:56:32] busy

[1:56:32] I have

[1:56:33] no excuse

[1:56:34] are you

[1:56:35] and it's

[1:56:35] the weekend

[1:56:36] yes

[1:56:36] so it's not

[1:56:40] like work

[1:56:40] was getting

[1:56:41] in the way

[1:56:41] I was pretty

Dan McCoy

[1:56:41] busy yesterday

[1:56:42] but yes

[1:56:43] pretty busy

[1:56:45] glad you threw

Stuart Wellington

[1:56:45] the qualifier

[1:56:46] on there

S4

[1:56:46] well that leads

[1:56:48] me to my

[1:56:48] movie

[1:56:49] Pretty Woman

[1:56:50] because when

[1:56:53] I first saw

[1:56:54] it I had

[1:56:54] no idea

[1:56:55] that it was

[1:56:55] based off

[1:56:56] of

[1:56:57] Pygmalion

[1:57:00] I think

[1:57:01] you're right

[1:57:01] and

[1:57:02] My Fair

[1:57:03] Lady

[1:57:04] which we

[1:57:05] just recently

[1:57:06] saw

[1:57:06] although the

[1:57:07] ending was

[1:57:07] different

Elliott Kalan

[1:57:08] did you see

[1:57:08] the Broadway

[1:57:09] version of it

[1:57:09] we did

Stuart Wellington

[1:57:10] yeah with

[1:57:11] that Laura

[1:57:12] Benanti

[1:57:12] oh man

[1:57:13] it was

Elliott Kalan

[1:57:13] really good

[1:57:15] people are

[1:57:15] bananas for

[1:57:16] Benanti

[1:57:16] the Lincoln

[1:57:16] Center

[1:57:17] production

[1:57:17] yeah it

[1:57:18] was great

[1:57:18] oh it's

Stuart Wellington

[1:57:18] so good

[1:57:19] so good

[1:57:20] they do a

[1:57:20] great job

[1:57:21] putting on

[1:57:21] classic music

[1:57:22] and the

[1:57:23] original Aunt

[1:57:24] May from

[1:57:24] the Sam Raimi

[1:57:25] movies

[1:57:25] she's so

[1:57:26] funny

[1:57:26] she's so

[1:57:27] great

[1:57:27] well I

[1:57:29] didn't see

Dan McCoy

[1:57:30] it

[1:57:30] so

[1:57:30] I'm sorry

[1:57:32] you can't

[1:57:33] brag about

[1:57:34] seeing a

[1:57:34] theater performance

[1:57:35] for once

[1:57:36] when she

Stuart Wellington

[1:57:37] came out

[1:57:37] I was like

[1:57:38] Shirley

[1:57:38] that's Aunt

[1:57:39] May

[1:57:39] and I was

[1:57:40] like what

[1:57:41] you see

Elliott Kalan

[1:57:43] Henry Higgins

[1:57:44] with great

[1:57:44] power

[1:57:45] linguistic

[1:57:45] power

[1:57:47] linguistic

[1:57:48] responsibility

[1:57:49] I'm sure

[1:57:51] there's

[1:57:52] none that

[1:57:52] came to

[1:57:52] mind

[1:57:53] but there

[1:57:53] are many

[1:57:53] times

[1:57:53] it's

[1:57:54] similarly

[1:57:55] when you

[1:57:55] see

[1:57:56] for the

[1:57:57] longest

[1:57:57] time

[1:57:58] things that

[1:57:59] I thought

[1:57:59] were just

[1:58:00] jokes

[1:58:00] like we

[1:58:01] don't need

[1:58:01] no stinking

[1:58:02] badges

[1:58:02] I would see

[1:58:03] in things

[1:58:03] and it was

[1:58:04] three years

[1:58:04] later that I

[1:58:04] saw Treasure of the

[1:58:05] Sierra Madre

[1:58:05] and I'm like

[1:58:06] oh this is a

[1:58:07] reference to a

[1:58:08] movie that

[1:58:10] anyone talks

[1:58:10] about when I was

[1:58:11] a kid

[1:58:12] but I didn't

[1:58:12] expect me to

[1:58:13] know that joke

[1:58:13] that happens

[1:58:14] all the time

[1:58:15] like Bugs Bunny

[1:58:16] oh yeah

Stuart Wellington

[1:58:17] I mean I saw

[1:58:18] Spaceballs long

[1:58:20] before I ever saw

[1:58:21] the chestburster scene

[1:58:22] from Ailey

[1:58:23] yeah yeah

Elliott Kalan

[1:58:24] oh sorry

Dan McCoy

[1:58:26] I think that that's

[1:58:27] honestly kind of the

[1:58:28] best I can come up

[1:58:29] with too is that

[1:58:30] I can't think of a

[1:58:32] specific but

[1:58:32] growing up I think

[1:58:33] is a long process

[1:58:35] in some ways of

[1:58:36] realizing like oh

[1:58:37] that joke was a

[1:58:38] reference it wasn't

[1:58:39] just funny

[1:58:40] itself it was like

[1:58:41] like there's a

[1:58:43] thread on the

[1:58:43] Flophouse Facebook

[1:58:44] group right now

[1:58:44] that's all about

[1:58:45] like stuff in the

[1:58:47] Simpsons that you

[1:58:47] realize meant

[1:58:48] something different

[1:58:49] once you were an

[1:58:50] adult and like

[1:58:51] there's like I

[1:58:52] think a large part

[1:58:53] of watching the

[1:58:54] Simpsons was that

[1:58:55] for me like I

[1:58:56] watched the the

[1:58:57] Bobo episode of

[1:58:58] the Simpsons for

[1:58:59] instance when I was

[1:59:00] a kid and I knew

[1:59:01] like oh okay

[1:59:02] Rosebud's a Citizen

[1:59:03] Kane reference

[1:59:03] because that's a

[1:59:04] famous reference

[1:59:04] but then you like

[1:59:05] watch Citizen Kane

[1:59:06] you go back to

[1:59:07] you're like oh

[1:59:07] like a ton of

[1:59:08] this is is

[1:59:09] is that the

[1:59:09] episode where they

Elliott Kalan

[1:59:10] do the whole

[1:59:10] song and dance

[1:59:11] there is a man

[1:59:12] a certain man

[1:59:13] exactly that's

[1:59:13] directly and uh

[1:59:15] then also I think

[1:59:16] I think we all

[1:59:17] have that moment

[1:59:18] in our lives that

[1:59:19] it's just universal

[1:59:20] when we're shocked

[1:59:20] to find out that

[1:59:21] Brewster's Millions

[1:59:22] is a story that

[1:59:23] goes back like a

[1:59:23] hundred years

[1:59:24] they've made

[1:59:26] multiple films of

[1:59:27] it and not just

[1:59:27] the one with

[1:59:28] John James

[1:59:28] on the

[1:59:29] TVS

[1:59:29] I've never seen

[1:59:30] Brewster's Millions

Stuart Wellington

[1:59:31] uh is it the

[1:59:33] same as uh

[1:59:34] that's with

[1:59:34] Richard Pryor

[1:59:35] right yeah

[1:59:35] is it the same

[1:59:36] as is it the

[1:59:37] same as the

[1:59:37] toy

[1:59:38] no

[1:59:38] not the same

[1:59:40] as the toy

[1:59:40] I mean I

[1:59:42] didn't buy the

[1:59:42] fucking tickets

[1:59:43] dude I was a

[1:59:44] the the the

[1:59:47] toy that my

[1:59:48] parents hired

[1:59:48] bought the

[1:59:49] tickets

[1:59:49] uh last

Elliott Kalan

[1:59:55] letter

[1:59:55] and even in

[1:59:55] the toy

[1:59:56] there's a part

[1:59:56] where there's a

[1:59:57] there's like a

[1:59:57] painting that

[1:59:58] is there's a

[1:59:59] nude version of

[2:00:00] it they press a

[2:00:01] button and the

[2:00:01] clothes come in

[2:00:01] off of it and

[2:00:02] that I think is

[2:00:03] a um is a

[2:00:05] take off of uh

[2:00:06] what artist is it

[2:00:07] I forget who

[2:00:07] did uh who did

[2:00:08] uh who did this

[2:00:09] a twin portraits

[2:00:10] of this one woman

[2:00:11] one where she has

[2:00:12] clothes on one

[2:00:12] where she has

[2:00:12] clothes off and

[2:00:13] as a kid I was

[2:00:14] just like that's

[2:00:14] crazy and now

[2:00:16] I'm like were

[2:00:16] they trying to

[2:00:16] put like a

[2:00:17] fine art joke

[2:00:18] in the toy

[2:00:18] because that was

[2:00:19] wasted on the

[2:00:20] audience

S4

[2:00:20] or maybe the

[2:00:21] people that I

[2:00:22] babysat for had

[2:00:23] pens and when

[2:00:23] you click it

[2:00:24] the clothes

Stuart Wellington

[2:00:25] they come off

[2:00:26] yeah yeah

S4

[2:00:27] so there's a

[2:00:28] wait I thought

Stuart Wellington

[2:00:28] you would turn

[2:00:29] the pen upside

[2:00:30] down the clothes

[2:00:30] would come off

[2:00:31] not click it

[2:00:32] a couple different

[2:00:32] versions out there

[2:00:33] Dan's familiar

[2:00:34] with the patents

[2:00:35] so there was a

[2:00:36] there was like an

Elliott Kalan

[2:00:38] athletic center that

[2:00:39] they used to have

[2:00:40] in my

[2:00:40] it's called a rec

[2:00:41] center

[2:00:41] I'm sorry but it

[2:00:42] was like a sports

[2:00:42] club it was like a

[2:00:43] it was like an

[2:00:43] athletic club that

[2:00:44] they would have

[2:00:45] this community

[2:00:46] event at

[2:00:46] it's still possible

[2:00:47] it's still possible

Elliott Kalan

[2:00:47] to bulldoze it

[2:00:48] okay

[2:00:48] no it's

[2:00:49] oh is that

[2:00:50] the definition

[2:00:50] if it's bulldozeable

[2:00:53] it's a rec center

[2:00:53] we'll solve this

[2:00:54] out there

[2:00:55] because you can't

[2:00:56] bulldoze a stadium

[2:00:57] right over it

[2:00:58] there was a

[2:01:00] once a year

[2:01:01] there was like

[2:01:01] this community

[2:01:02] event that my

[2:01:03] family would force

[2:01:04] the whole family

[2:01:05] would go to

[2:01:05] my parents would

[2:01:05] force us to go to

[2:01:06] and in the men's

[2:01:07] room the light

[2:01:08] switch

[2:01:08] the light switch

[2:01:09] plate

[2:01:09] had a drawing

[2:01:11] of a tennis

[2:01:11] player with his

[2:01:12] pants down

[2:01:13] and look on his

[2:01:13] face like oh

[2:01:14] no and the

[2:01:15] light switch was

[2:01:15] his I guess in

[2:01:16] the place of his

[2:01:17] penis so it was

[2:01:18] like in order to

[2:01:19] turn the light on

[2:01:19] or off you had to

[2:01:20] flick his penis

[2:01:20] and I remember

[2:01:21] it being like

[2:01:21] this is weird

[2:01:23] this is weird

Stuart Wellington

[2:01:24] you would think

[2:01:25] you would be much

[2:01:25] happier about this

[2:01:26] situation

Elliott Kalan

[2:01:27] and I assumed

[2:01:28] it's in the men's

[2:01:28] room because women

[2:01:29] upon seeing this

[2:01:30] light switch would

[2:01:30] be unable to

[2:01:31] control themselves

[2:01:32] but it's still

[2:01:33] strange

Dan McCoy

[2:01:34] last letter

[2:01:39] this is from

[2:01:40] Aaron and

[2:01:40] Emily

[2:01:41] I hope I am

[2:01:44] pronouncing their

[2:01:44] names correctly

[2:01:45] but

[2:01:45] probably not

[2:01:47] I'll start now

[2:01:49] Dan

[2:01:49] Aaron and Emily

[2:01:50] write

[2:01:51] hello my

[2:01:51] fiance and I

[2:01:52] are big fans

[2:01:54] of the Flophouse

[2:01:55] we're getting

[2:01:55] married in October

[2:01:56] and we'd love

[2:01:57] to be able

[2:01:58] we'd love to be

[2:01:59] able to play

[2:02:00] theme song

[2:02:01] at our wedding

[2:02:02] immediately after

[2:02:03] our ceremony

[2:02:04] theme song has

[2:02:05] been the prelude

[2:02:06] to so many

[2:02:07] hours of

[2:02:08] entertainment

[2:02:08] and happiness

[2:02:09] and it seems

[2:02:10] fitting

[2:02:11] that we use

[2:02:12] it at the

[2:02:12] opening to

[2:02:13] our new

[2:02:13] life together

[2:02:14] I think the

[2:02:15] normal Flophouse

[2:02:16] IP fee of

[2:02:17] $700,000

[2:02:18] may be somewhat

[2:02:19] outside of our

[2:02:20] budget

[2:02:20] but if you give

[2:02:22] us permission

[2:02:22] to use the

[2:02:23] song

[2:02:23] I promise

[2:02:24] to bake you

[2:02:25] an award

[2:02:25] winning pie

[2:02:26] thanks Aaron

[2:02:27] and Emily

[2:02:28] now I took

[2:02:28] the liberty

[2:02:29] to already

[2:02:30] give the

[2:02:31] permission

[2:02:31] for this

[2:02:32] thanks Dan

[2:02:34] I thought this

[2:02:35] was a democracy

[2:02:35] yeah

[2:02:36] no it's

[2:02:37] cheer

[2:02:37] but

[2:02:38] I

[2:02:40] will

[2:02:41] I'm here

[2:02:41] to tell

[2:02:42] you that

[2:02:42] the pie

[2:02:43] in question

[2:02:44] is in my

[2:02:45] fridge at

[2:02:45] this moment

[2:02:46] is this the

S4

[2:02:47] part of the

[2:02:47] portion of the

[2:02:48] show where we

[2:02:49] eat pie

[2:02:49] yep

[2:02:50] it says

[2:02:51] every

Elliott Kalan

[2:02:51] Charlene is a

[2:02:52] constant Flophouse

[2:02:53] listener she knows

[2:02:53] every episode ends

S4

[2:02:54] where we eat

[2:02:54] some pie

[2:02:55] on the mic

Dan McCoy

[2:02:57] you should do it

[2:02:57] on mic but the

[2:02:58] pie exists

[2:02:59] well what if

[2:03:00] we just ask

[2:03:00] Mike to lie

[2:03:01] down and we

[2:03:01] put the

[2:03:01] pies on him

[2:03:02] will it be as

Stuart Wellington

[2:03:05] exciting as the

[2:03:06] time we open

[2:03:07] gifts on mic

[2:03:08] oh wow I'm

[2:03:10] slowly unwrapping

[2:03:11] this thing

[2:03:11] you're like why

[2:03:12] are you still

[2:03:12] angry about this

[2:03:13] I mean it's

[2:03:13] literally the

Elliott Kalan

[2:03:14] most popular

[2:03:14] type of video

[2:03:15] anyone watches

[2:03:16] in the world

Dan McCoy

[2:03:17] that was our

[2:03:18] podcast we would

[2:03:19] be three times

[2:03:20] as big

[2:03:21] opening presents

[2:03:22] Dan could finally

[2:03:23] quit the Flophouse

Elliott Kalan

[2:03:23] you could quit

[2:03:24] your bars I

[2:03:25] could quit

[2:03:25] doing what I

[2:03:26] love which is

[2:03:26] being a dad

[2:03:27] if the thing

Stuart Wellington

[2:03:31] we were opening

[2:03:31] was like a

[2:03:32] true crime

[2:03:33] murder we

[2:03:33] would be the

[2:03:34] most popular

Elliott Kalan

[2:03:34] podcast yeah

[2:03:36] we're opening

[2:03:36] boxes and

[2:03:37] there's unsolved

[2:03:37] mysteries inside

Dan McCoy

[2:03:38] I guess it's

[2:03:40] just an

[2:03:41] unconfident

[2:03:41] thing yeah

[2:03:42] number one

[2:03:43] someone out

[2:03:44] there is

[2:03:44] let's say

[2:03:46] what no I

[2:03:49] don't want to

[2:03:50] insult them

[2:03:50] what a

[2:03:53] delightful person

[2:03:54] who wants to

[2:03:55] put our

[2:03:55] song in their

[2:03:56] wedding

[2:03:57] yeah I

[2:03:57] think that's

[2:03:57] really sweet

[2:03:58] which seems

[2:03:58] like a

[2:03:58] harebrained

[2:03:59] scheme to

[2:03:59] me but I

[2:04:00] love it

[2:04:00] I love it

[2:04:01] I love it

[2:04:01] that it's

[2:04:02] that important

[2:04:02] to them

[2:04:03] I think it's

Elliott Kalan

[2:04:03] fantastic

[2:04:04] it's wonderful

[2:04:04] I don't like

[2:04:05] the way I'm

[2:04:06] finding out about

[2:04:07] this after

[2:04:08] everything's been

[2:04:09] said and done

[2:04:09] and so long

[2:04:10] the pie has

[2:04:11] already been

Dan McCoy

[2:04:12] baked and

[2:04:12] said

[2:04:12] I did not

[2:04:13] want to

[2:04:14] it seemed

[2:04:15] like a request

[2:04:16] that I did

[2:04:17] not want to

[2:04:18] leave them

[2:04:19] hanging on the

[2:04:20] telephone

[2:04:20] if you will

Elliott Kalan

[2:04:21] like in the

[2:04:22] Blondie song

[2:04:22] which is actually

[2:04:23] not a Blondie

[2:04:23] song it's a

[2:04:24] nerves song but a

[2:04:25] lot of people know

[2:04:25] it's a Blondie

[2:04:26] cover when I

[2:04:26] found that out

[2:04:27] I was surprised

[2:04:27] yeah

Stuart Wellington

[2:04:27] now is if this

[2:04:29] does a what

[2:04:30] what flavor of

[2:04:31] pie is it Dan

[2:04:31] it's a bourbon

[2:04:33] pecan pie

[2:04:34] okay at least it

[2:04:36] doesn't have fruit

[2:04:36] so Elliot's

[2:04:37] allowed to eat it

[2:04:37] yeah I

[2:04:38] it actually did

[2:04:39] say like do

[2:04:39] not send a fruit

[2:04:40] pie

[2:04:40] you should have

Elliott Kalan

[2:04:42] just told them

[2:04:42] to make it a

[2:04:43] meat pie

[2:04:43] perhaps made out

[2:04:44] of a freshly

[2:04:45] shaved Londoner

[2:04:46] but yeah Dan

[2:04:50] that was the right

[2:04:50] call I mean you

[2:04:51] could have emailed

[2:04:51] us and said hey

[2:04:52] is this cool

[2:04:52] but you know

Dan McCoy

[2:04:54] that we're going

[2:04:54] to get really

[2:04:55] that worried

[2:04:56] about our

[2:04:56] theme song IP

[2:04:59] Pachelbel gets

[2:05:00] called up when

[2:05:01] his cannon is

[2:05:02] used at people's

[2:05:02] weddings

Elliott Kalan

[2:05:03] they're shooting

[2:05:04] off cannons

[2:05:04] at people's

[2:05:05] weddings

[2:05:05] is the old

[2:05:07] man from

[2:05:07] Mary Poppins

[2:05:08] getting married

[2:05:08] no it's good

[2:05:11] you're right

[2:05:11] Taco Bell is

[2:05:12] not getting

[2:05:12] called

[2:05:13] when the

[2:05:15] cannon is

[2:05:15] like what if

[2:05:16] you ordered

[2:05:16] Pachelbel's

[2:05:17] cannon from

[2:05:17] the DJ

[2:05:18] and they're

[2:05:18] like I got

[2:05:18] Taco Bell's

[2:05:19] cannon

[2:05:19] and it's

[2:05:20] just the

[2:05:21] bell sound

[2:05:22] and maybe

[2:05:22] like that

[2:05:23] Spanish version

[2:05:24] of the

[2:05:24] we are young

[2:05:24] song

[2:05:25] that played

[2:05:25] that commercial

[2:05:26] at one time

S4

[2:05:26] what if

[2:05:27] their walk

[2:05:28] down the aisle

[2:05:28] goes viral

[2:05:29] and they do

[2:05:30] some kind

[2:05:30] of a flash

[2:05:31] mob and

[2:05:31] then you don't

[2:05:31] get any of

[2:05:32] that flash

[2:05:33] mob

[2:05:33] internet

[2:05:34] money

Elliott Kalan

[2:05:34] speaking as

[2:05:37] someone who

[2:05:37] has seen

[2:05:37] his creative

[2:05:38] work go

[2:05:38] viral and

[2:05:39] receive zero

[2:05:40] pennies for

[2:05:40] it

[2:05:41] whatever

[2:05:42] yeah

Dan McCoy

[2:05:43] no I

[2:05:44] am delighted

[2:05:46] that we have

[2:05:47] been able to

[2:05:47] contribute in

[2:05:48] any small way

[2:05:49] to this romance

[2:05:51] if it's so

Elliott Kalan

[2:05:52] important to them

[2:05:52] that they want

[2:05:52] to make a part

[2:05:53] of their wedding

[2:05:53] then I'm really

[2:05:54] touched and I'm

[2:05:54] really happy

[2:05:55] that we were

Stuart Wellington

[2:05:55] and I think

[2:05:56] Dan's taken

[2:05:57] his lumps

[2:05:57] and it's time

[2:05:58] to move on

[2:05:59] to the next

[2:05:59] part of the

[2:05:59] podcast

[2:06:00] wow

[2:06:01] okay the next

[2:06:01] second point is

[2:06:02] Dan lumps

[2:06:03] a real

[2:06:03] taskmaster

[2:06:04] he's like

[2:06:05] we gotta get

[2:06:05] to that pie

[2:06:06] all right

Elliott Kalan

[2:06:06] I assume this was

[2:06:08] Dan just saw

[2:06:09] the word pie

[2:06:09] and just wrote

[2:06:10] yes yes yes

Dan McCoy

[2:06:11] last segment is

[2:06:14] of course

[2:06:15] recommendations of

[2:06:16] movies that we

[2:06:18] have seen and

[2:06:19] enjoyed that you

[2:06:21] know even if we

[2:06:22] were pretty pleasant

[2:06:24] on on this silly

[2:06:26] movie maybe you

[2:06:27] should watch

[2:06:27] instead of

[2:06:28] meatballs part two

[2:06:29] and mine is

[2:06:31] inspired my

[2:06:33] recommendation is

[2:06:34] inspired by

[2:06:34] meatballs part two

[2:06:36] I said earlier

[2:06:37] that one of

[2:06:38] the larger

[2:06:40] roles for one

[2:06:41] of the head

[2:06:41] counselors in

[2:06:42] this movie is

[2:06:44] a guy who's

[2:06:45] been a lot of

[2:06:45] Joe Dante

[2:06:45] movies I have

[2:06:47] not seen a lot

[2:06:48] of movies

[2:06:48] recently that I

[2:06:50] was like this

[2:06:51] is great I got

[2:06:52] to recommend

[2:06:52] on the podcast

[2:06:53] so I'm gonna

[2:06:54] go back to a

[2:06:55] Joe Dante movie

[2:06:56] that is little

[2:06:57] seen compared

[2:06:58] to some of his

[2:06:58] other ones

[2:06:59] that's matinee

[2:06:59] where John

[2:07:02] Goodman stars

[2:07:02] as basically a

[2:07:04] William Castle

[2:07:05] type I would

Elliott Kalan

[2:07:06] say John

[2:07:06] Goodman is not

[2:07:06] the star of the

[2:07:07] movie well

[2:07:08] I'd say the

[2:07:08] teens are the

[2:07:09] stars there's a

[2:07:09] bunch of teens

[2:07:10] John Goodman is

[2:07:11] the big name in

[2:07:11] the movie there's

Dan McCoy

[2:07:12] a bunch of

[2:07:12] teens it's in a

[2:07:14] small town with

[2:07:15] a with a

[2:07:16] there's they're

[2:07:17] having a movie

[2:07:18] premiere there

[2:07:19] John Goodman as

[2:07:20] I said before is

[2:07:21] a William Castle

[2:07:21] type who like is

[2:07:23] an exploitation

[2:07:24] filmmaker with a

[2:07:25] gimmick for every

[2:07:26] movie and his

[2:07:28] newest movie is

[2:07:28] Mant it's taking

[2:07:29] place during the

[2:07:30] Cuban Missile

[2:07:31] Crisis they

[2:07:33] threw several

[2:07:35] shenanigans they

[2:07:36] think that the

[2:07:36] nukes are flying

[2:07:38] you know laughs

[2:07:40] and nostalgia ensue

[2:07:41] if you like old

[2:07:42] movies I was just

Stuart Wellington

[2:07:44] looking at Twitter

[2:07:45] is Dan recommending

[2:07:46] matinee you know

[2:07:47] it

Dan McCoy

[2:07:47] no I didn't

Stuart Wellington

[2:07:51] recommend it but I

[2:07:51] remember seeing it

[2:07:52] in the theater when

[2:07:53] I was a little

[2:07:54] shaver I really

Dan McCoy

[2:07:55] like man matinee

[2:07:56] like look I really

[2:07:57] like Joe Dante

[2:07:58] movies in general

[2:07:59] like matinee I

[2:08:00] feel like the it

[2:08:02] starts out a little

[2:08:03] slowly but it

[2:08:04] snowballs really

[2:08:05] nicely I feel like by

[2:08:06] the end of the

[2:08:07] movie everything is

[2:08:09] firing really well

[2:08:10] and it's just very

[2:08:12] funny and enjoyable

[2:08:13] and just like is

Stuart Wellington

[2:08:15] that the one where

[2:08:16] they like either put

[2:08:17] the tingler in the

[2:08:18] in the theater seats

[2:08:21] or they're like trying

[2:08:22] to one-up the

[2:08:22] tingler or something

[2:08:23] yeah it's basically

[2:08:24] that yeah you know

[2:08:26] talk about firing on

Dan McCoy

[2:08:27] all cylinders you

[2:08:28] know if you've got

[2:08:29] any affection for

[2:08:30] like the idea of

[2:08:32] like exploitation

[2:08:33] filmmaking at all

Elliott Kalan

[2:08:35] now I think by

[2:08:36] exploitation filmmaking

[2:08:36] we should make sure

[2:08:37] what you mean is

[2:08:38] B movies you don't

Dan McCoy

[2:08:39] mean this is not

[2:08:40] grindhouse movies

Elliott Kalan

[2:08:41] no I'm not like

[2:08:41] these are Vincent

[2:08:42] Price I'm not like

[2:08:43] blood sucking freaks

[2:08:44] or whatever no this

[2:08:44] is like this is like

[2:08:46] a movie where they're

[2:08:47] like in spook a

[2:08:47] vision and it means

[2:08:48] a skeleton on a

[2:08:49] fishing line comes

Dan McCoy

[2:08:50] out yeah

[2:08:50] 13 ghosts all that

Elliott Kalan

[2:08:52] stuff well why not

[2:08:53] just make it 12

[2:08:54] ghosts what's that

[2:08:55] 13th ghost doing

[2:08:56] for you now you

[2:08:57] have an odd number

[2:08:57] of seats at the

S4

[2:08:58] table a baker's

[2:08:59] dozen of ghosts

Elliott Kalan

[2:09:00] what bakers have

[2:09:01] sent out ghosts

S4

[2:09:02] a devil's dozen

[2:09:03] of ghosts you get

[2:09:04] to eat the one

[2:09:05] ghost on the way

[2:09:05] home and you still

[2:09:06] get to go home

[2:09:06] with a dozen

[2:09:07] ghosts well the

Elliott Kalan

[2:09:07] lucky one is the

[2:09:08] one who has the

[2:09:09] ghost with the

[2:09:09] little toy in it

[2:09:10] and they win

[2:09:11] they're the king

[2:09:11] of Christmas

[2:09:12] okay anyone else

[2:09:14] have movies anyone

Stuart Wellington

[2:09:15] take this curse

[2:09:17] from me

[2:09:18] well in I'm gonna

[2:09:22] have to say I was

[2:09:22] inspired by meatballs

[2:09:23] part two of course

[2:09:25] I'm gonna recommend

[2:09:26] another summer movie

[2:09:27] that's right I'm

[2:09:28] recommending midsummer

[2:09:29] summer in the title

[2:09:31] and boy what a blast

[2:09:33] we have it's the

[2:09:35] second feature

[2:09:36] directed by Ari

[2:09:37] Astor it's about a

[2:09:39] couple of young

[2:09:40] college kids just

[2:09:41] trying to have a

[2:09:42] little bit of fun in

[2:09:43] in the sun and

[2:09:43] sun in the fun

[2:09:45] and so they travel to

[2:09:47] Sweden to examine

[2:09:49] some of the cultural

[2:09:50] anthropology of some

[2:09:51] of the summer

[2:09:51] festivals there and

[2:09:53] let's just say things

[2:09:55] go a little bit off

[2:09:56] the rails

[2:09:56] the movie's fun it

[2:10:00] does exactly what

[2:10:01] you think it's going

[2:10:01] to do all the time

[2:10:02] in a great way it's

[2:10:04] super fun watch it

[2:10:05] midsummer by Ari

[2:10:06] Astor recommended by

[2:10:07] me Stuart

Elliott Kalan

[2:10:08] and I'm gonna recommend

[2:10:11] another movie of the

[2:10:13] summer I guess in that

[2:10:14] it's summer right now

[2:10:15] so if you watch it it

[2:10:16] becomes a movie of the

[2:10:17] summer I recently

[2:10:18] watched the sisters

[2:10:19] brothers starring

[2:10:20] Joaquin Phoenix and

[2:10:21] John C.

[2:10:22] Riley and Jake

[2:10:23] Gyllenhaal and Riz Ahmed

[2:10:25] and it is a western

[2:10:27] but it's a western

[2:10:28] that vacillates wildly

[2:10:30] between comedy and

[2:10:32] not comedy and I

[2:10:34] really liked that it

[2:10:35] was a movie where I

[2:10:36] thought I knew where

[2:10:37] it was going and I

[2:10:38] thought I knew it was

[2:10:38] happening and I did

[2:10:39] not know where it was

[2:10:40] going and what was

[2:10:41] happening not in the

[2:10:41] sense of there's like

[2:10:42] there's no twist that

[2:10:44] makes you rethink

[2:10:44] things but just that

[2:10:45] the movie's tone is

[2:10:48] kind of free with

[2:10:50] where it goes and it

[2:10:51] was one of Joaquin

[2:10:52] Phoenix's funnier

[2:10:53] performances that I've

[2:10:54] seen recently and he's

[2:10:55] someone who can be very

[2:10:56] funny when he wants to

[2:10:57] be yeah like in you

[2:10:58] were never really here

[2:10:59] yeah exactly and one of

[2:11:01] John C.

[2:11:01] Riley's more like I

[2:11:04] feel like he's fallen

[2:11:05] most things I see with

[2:11:06] him in nowadays are

[2:11:08] like Holmes and Watson

[2:11:09] type things because he

[2:11:11] likes being a clown

[2:11:11] but he's got like

[2:11:12] such a soul to him

[2:11:13] we need to talk about

[2:11:14] Kevin

[2:11:14] yeah yeah exactly

[2:11:15] goof em ups yeah

S4

[2:11:17] something like that

[2:11:17] well not all of his

Elliott Kalan

[2:11:18] movies but lately

[2:11:19] anyway but I really

[2:11:21] liked a lot and I

[2:11:22] couldn't tell where it

[2:11:23] was going from moment

[2:11:23] to moment and it

[2:11:24] surprised me and it

[2:11:25] was a little bit like

[2:11:26] I don't know if

[2:11:28] someone gave like an

[2:11:29] art filmmaker enough

[2:11:31] money to get some big

[2:11:32] stars to make a

[2:11:32] western and I really

[2:11:33] liked it it was the

[2:11:34] closest I've come to

[2:11:35] seeing a movie that

[2:11:36] reminded me of the

[2:11:37] book the Hawkline

[2:11:38] Monster so if you like

[2:11:38] the book the Hawkline

[2:11:39] Monster go see the

[2:11:40] Sisters Brothers

S4

[2:11:41] okay this is completely

[2:11:44] unrelated to all the

[2:11:45] movies that you guys

[2:11:46] recommended and it

[2:11:48] has nothing to do with

[2:11:48] the summer but I did

[2:11:50] see it recently on a

[2:11:51] plane okay I recently

[2:11:54] rewatched the devil

[2:11:56] wears Prada and I

[2:11:58] would like to recommend

[2:11:58] two-thirds of it

[2:11:59] okay which two-thirds

[2:12:02] the first two-thirds

[2:12:04] the first two-thirds of

[2:12:05] it mainly for the scene

Stuart Wellington

[2:12:07] where Emily Blunt sees

[2:12:09] sees your friend your

[2:12:12] friend Anne Hathaway

[2:12:13] sees her after she

[2:12:14] gets a makeover and

[2:12:15] she does that slow

[2:12:16] motion like jaw drop

[2:12:17] like no way

S4

[2:12:18] it it stars

Dan McCoy

[2:12:22] you're recommending

[2:12:23] the two-thirds that

[2:12:25] don't have Adrian

[2:12:25] Greer in them

[2:12:26] yes exactly

S4

[2:12:27] it stars Meryl Streep

[2:12:30] as the titular devil

[2:12:33] as the titular devil

[2:12:35] and she does an

[2:12:35] amazing performance

[2:12:36] and I feel like the

[2:12:39] the movie that I

[2:12:41] watched seemed to say

[2:12:43] you know work really

[2:12:45] hard at and you can be

[2:12:47] as awesome as you know

[2:12:48] this Meryl Streep

[2:12:49] character and it

[2:12:50] seemed like the movie

[2:12:51] like took a turn at the

[2:12:53] end and was trying to

[2:12:54] say the opposite so

[2:12:55] don't don't watch the

[2:12:56] end that's stupid just

[2:12:57] watch it up until

[2:12:59] after she gets the

[2:13:02] makeover and you know

Stuart Wellington

[2:13:04] yeah and starts and

[2:13:05] she's on the top of her

[2:13:06] game yeah friends are

[2:13:07] like you've changed

[2:13:09] and it's like you knew

[2:13:10] me in college I hope I

[2:13:11] changed because I was

[2:13:12] eating fucking ramen and

[2:13:14] like sitting like sleeping

[2:13:15] on a mattress surrounded

[2:13:16] by reptiles magazines and

[2:13:18] porno mags

[2:13:19] wait is there a

[2:13:20] difference

S4

[2:13:20] and her boyfriend is a

[2:13:22] chef and he doesn't

[2:13:24] understand that she works

[2:13:25] long hours that drives me

[2:13:26] crazy

[2:13:27] fucking part

Dan McCoy

[2:13:28] I kind of feel like a

[2:13:29] lot of these movies are

[2:13:31] like that have like this

[2:13:33] same like arc in them

[2:13:34] these Hollywood movies

[2:13:35] are written by people

[2:13:36] who are in Hollywood

[2:13:38] and like okay I'm in a

[2:13:39] high pressure job where

[2:13:42] there's a lot of

[2:13:42] competition I need to

[2:13:44] discourage people from

[2:13:45] trying to excel

S4

[2:13:46] maybe that's it it's

[2:13:49] like if you if you work

[2:13:50] really hard you're never

[2:13:51] going to get a

[2:13:52] boyfriend it's like

[2:13:53] yeah no one wants that

[2:13:54] boyfriend just work

Stuart Wellington

[2:13:56] yeah the it's like do

[2:13:58] you think that the

[2:13:59] person who's writing all

[2:14:00] those sitcoms where

[2:14:01] women get jobs at

[2:14:02] magazines is like

[2:14:04] name them which

[2:14:05] which ones

[2:14:05] does you have a job

[2:14:07] at the just shoot me

[2:14:08] magazine

[2:14:09] there's no way if all

[2:14:11] these young women keep

[2:14:12] taking my job I won't

[2:14:14] be able to take it so I

[2:14:15] need them I need to

[2:14:16] discourage them from

[2:14:17] getting that job

Elliott Kalan

[2:14:17] I mean I I think what

[2:14:20] really comes down to is

[2:14:21] people who don't know

[2:14:23] what they're writing

[2:14:24] about and then basing

[2:14:26] them on old old story

[2:14:27] forms that we have in

[2:14:30] many ways sloughed off

[2:14:31] like so much reptile

[2:14:32] skin sorry to get you

[2:14:33] hot and bothered

Stuart Wellington

[2:14:33] but like wasn't like

[2:14:34] I mean that was the

[2:14:35] old steward

Dan McCoy

[2:14:36] the devil wears

[2:14:37] prada like that was

[2:14:38] like a Romina

[2:14:38] cleft like the woman

[2:14:40] who wrote that worked

[2:14:41] for what's her face

[2:14:42] Anna Wintour

[2:14:43] so like like she

[2:14:45] oh what's her face

[2:14:48] she would theoretically

[2:14:50] actually know what it

[2:14:51] is to have that job

Elliott Kalan

[2:14:53] hey Dan I'm gonna let

[2:14:53] you on a little secret

[2:14:54] what

[2:14:55] movies

[2:14:56] okay

[2:14:57] are often different

[2:14:58] okay

[2:14:59] than the real things

[2:15:00] all right

[2:15:01] they're based on

[2:15:01] oh

[2:15:02] and I'm willing to bet

[2:15:03] that the person who

[2:15:03] wrote the movie

[2:15:04] did not write the book

[2:15:05] okay

[2:15:06] and I'm also willing to

[2:15:06] bet that the person

[2:15:07] who wrote the book

[2:15:07] made up some stuff

[2:15:09] and so Dan

[2:15:11] when I think when it

[2:15:13] was not released as

[2:15:14] the devil wears prada

[2:15:15] an investigative report

[2:15:16] with a Pulitzer

[2:15:19] prize on it

[2:15:19] wait a minute

Elliott Kalan

[2:15:19] this isn't actually

Stuart Wellington

[2:15:20] prada

[2:15:21] with a letter from

[2:15:22] the times ombudsman

[2:15:23] saying yes we've

[2:15:24] checked all this

[2:15:25] script written by

[2:15:26] Mike Daisy

[2:15:27] wow

[2:15:31] great

[2:15:33] great

Elliott Kalan

[2:15:34] specific audience

[2:15:37] yeah when it wasn't

[2:15:39] the devil wears prada

[2:15:39] part four means of

[2:15:41] ascent by Robert

[2:15:41] Caro

[2:15:42] that's when you

[2:15:43] should know that

[2:15:43] maybe they took

[2:15:44] some liberties in

[2:15:45] the Anna Wintour

[2:15:45] story

Dan McCoy

[2:15:46] all right fair

[2:15:48] enough

[2:15:48] hey guys

[2:15:49] it's been a delight

[2:15:50] and I

[2:15:51] thank you Charlene

[2:15:53] thanks for having me

[2:15:54] yeah thank you for

[2:15:55] being here

[2:15:55] thank you for

[2:15:56] picking this movie

[2:15:57] I agree with Elliot

[2:15:58] I feel like we should

[2:15:58] do all of the

[2:15:59] meatballs movies

[2:16:00] now

[2:16:00] we might have to

[2:16:01] writers write in

[2:16:02] should we do the

[2:16:02] other meatballs

[2:16:03] bring back Charlene

[2:16:05] do the whole

[2:16:05] meatballs quadrilogy

[2:16:06] but until next time

[2:16:11] you know

[2:16:12] well quick we'll say

[2:16:13] do all the regular

[2:16:14] stuff

[2:16:14] write us a good

[2:16:15] review on iTunes

[2:16:16] if you feel so

[2:16:17] inclined

[2:16:17] tweet about us

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[2:16:19] feed about us

[2:16:20] and visit us at

S4

[2:16:22] Minnie's Bar

[2:16:23] 885 4th Avenue

Elliott Kalan

[2:16:25] in what town is that

[2:16:28] Brooklyn New York

[2:16:29] okay so if they

[2:16:29] they can't just go to

[2:16:30] any 4th Avenue

[2:16:31] so what was the address

[2:16:32] again

[2:16:33] 885 4th Avenue

Stuart Wellington

[2:16:35] if your town has

[2:16:36] an 885 4th Avenue

[2:16:37] just give it a shot

Elliott Kalan

[2:16:39] maybe Minnie's is there

[2:16:40] yeah

[2:16:41] and if you get some

[2:16:43] tickets for the live

[2:16:43] shows they're going

[2:16:44] fast so get them now

[2:16:45] before they're gone

Dan McCoy

[2:16:46] go to maximumfund.org

[2:16:48] listen to other shows

[2:16:49] Dan will announce the

[2:16:50] winner of that t-shirt

[2:16:51] contest

[2:16:51] someday

[2:16:52] very soon

Elliott Kalan

[2:16:53] and like

[2:16:54] maybe if you get a

[2:16:55] free moment

[2:16:56] like do something

[2:16:56] nice for somebody

[2:16:57] who's not you

[2:16:58] just like trying to

[2:16:59] make the world a

[2:16:59] better place

[2:17:00] yeah

Stuart Wellington

[2:17:00] like and subscribe

[2:17:02] become a MaxFun

[2:17:04] donor I think we'll

[2:17:04] have some new

[2:17:05] bonus episodes

[2:17:06] showing up soon

[2:17:07] soon enough

Dan McCoy

[2:17:07] but now that's all

[2:17:10] in the rear view

[2:17:11] we can sign off

[2:17:12] and I will start

Elliott Kalan

[2:17:13] I feel like that would

[2:17:14] be your movie company

[2:17:15] would be Rear View

[2:17:17] and the animated

[2:17:19] production logo is you

[2:17:20] looking at a butt

[2:17:20] maybe in a rear view

[2:17:23] mirror

[2:17:24] TM TM TM

[2:17:24] and like you're like

Stuart Wellington

[2:17:26] pulling those shades

[2:17:27] down the bridge here

[2:17:28] now

Elliott Kalan

[2:17:28] you know it

Dan McCoy

[2:17:29] everyone is advising

[2:17:31] me against it

[2:17:32] like everyone

[2:17:33] you sure you want

Elliott Kalan

[2:17:35] to send me your

[2:17:35] production logo

[2:17:36] I want this at the

[2:17:37] beginning and end of

[2:17:38] all shows and movies

[2:17:39] that Rear View

[2:17:40] put together

[2:17:40] my name plastered

[2:17:41] all over it

Stuart Wellington

[2:17:42] including Jeffrey

[2:17:43] Wright's lawyers

[2:17:43] who are like my

[2:17:44] client has copyright

[2:17:45] in the way he wears

[2:17:46] glasses

[2:17:47] but anyway

Elliott Kalan

[2:17:49] thank you all

Dan McCoy

[2:17:55] for listening

[2:17:56] it's been a blast

[2:17:57] to all be in the

[2:17:58] same room together

[2:17:59] and have Charlene

[2:18:00] here

[2:18:00] but for the

[2:18:01] Flop House

[2:18:02] I've been Dan

[2:18:02] McCoy

Stuart Wellington

[2:18:03] hey I'm

[2:18:04] Stuart Wellington

Dan McCoy

[2:18:05] Elliot Kalin

[2:18:06] over here

Stuart Wellington

[2:18:06] Charlene Wellington

[2:18:07] in the words

[2:18:09] of our pal

[2:18:11] Meatball

[2:18:12] that's right

[2:18:13] good to buy

[2:18:14] moolahs

[2:18:14] alright

[2:18:16] and his name

[2:18:17] is Meathead

[2:18:17] Gabriel was eating

Elliott Kalan

[2:18:32] all my mashed potatoes

[2:18:33] at dinner

[2:18:33] oh man

[2:18:34] were you mad at him

[2:18:35] I was gonna be

[2:18:36] but he's so

[2:18:36] cutey

[2:18:37] and also

[2:18:37] I literally have to

[2:18:38] take the mashed potatoes

[2:18:39] on a fork

[2:18:39] and put the fork

[2:18:40] in his mouth

[2:18:40] when he eats them

[2:18:41] so I could have

[2:18:42] stopped him

[2:18:42] yeah

[2:18:42] he wasn't

[2:18:44] yeah exactly

[2:18:45] but I felt pressured

[2:18:46] by his cuteness

Stuart Wellington

[2:18:47] well I say

[2:18:49] I say

[2:18:49] this baby

[2:18:51] can't be

[2:18:52] convicted

[2:18:52] for the crime

[2:18:53] of stealing

[2:18:54] mashed potatoes

Elliott Kalan

[2:18:55] I'd like to hear

[2:18:57] from the defendant

[2:18:59] bah bah bah bah bah

[2:19:01] bah

[2:19:01] uh

[2:19:02] yeah

Stuart Wellington

[2:19:02] my case rests

Elliott Kalan

[2:19:04] would the court reporter

[2:19:06] read that back please

[2:19:07] um

[2:19:08] bah bah

[2:19:08] bah bah bah

S4

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