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FH Mini 4 - A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man
Transcript
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Broadcasting live from the heart of the tire fire we're living in, it's a Flophouse Mini
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starring me, Dan McCoy.
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Oh, and me, Stuart Wellington.
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And over here in sunny Los Angeles, Elliot Kalin.
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Dan, how come you can't bring that level of energy to the regular show?
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Well, this is desperate hysteria, Elliot.
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Or is it that you're like, I only have so much energy and for a regular episode it's
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got to last an hour and a half, but this time it's only got to be ten minutes?
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That's possible.
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It's also possible that I'm just happy to see other human faces.
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It's kind of like when we went on a cruise to Alaska and we went on a tour of an Alaskan
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sled dog training facility.
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The sled dog team dragged us around on like a little golf cart thing that was much heavier
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than my Ditterod sled, but they only did it for a brief period of time.
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So Dan is a lot like those very friendly, happy sled dogs who are also very muscly athletes.
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Sounds like Dan.
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I thought this was leading into a description of how this being dragged around by happy
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sled dogs was the happiest any of us have ever been.
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It was one of the happiest moments of my life.
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Yeah.
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Don't worry, when this mini goes up, I will post some video of these happy doggies.
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Oh, nice.
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There's no way it's going to match the best video from that vacation.
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Dan performing in the Voice of the Sea competition.
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That's true.
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That was actually the happiest moment of my life, and I kept staring at the heavens.
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Please strike me dead, for I don't want to experience anything else.
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Yeah, it was a little insulting to see the video that you took and to hear you and Charlene
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laughing the whole time.
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Dan, honestly, what do you think their reaction was going to be?
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Were they going to be like, whoa, he's really doing it.
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He's amazing.
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Yeah, like we're watching a dinosaur skateboard.
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Call up your cousin, Chuck Berry, because this is the sound he's been looking for.
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We're out to sea, guys.
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I thought that they would be transfixed by my siren song.
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Sure, sure.
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Well, maybe their ears were full of beeswax.
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Much like Odysseus himself.
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Well, that was the thing.
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All of our friends' ears were filled with beeswax, but not me.
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I had them tie me to my chair so I could experience the glory of Dan's voice.
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That's a good idea.
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So guys, we don't really have a format for the Flophouse minis, but in so much as we
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have had one in the past, it's been people tweeting topics at us and us addressing them.
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But we're going to do something a little different.
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I don't think we want to get necessarily stuck in that for every Flophouse mini, but do a
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lot of those probably.
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But Ellie, what's your format change?
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What are we doing this time?
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I thought, you know, guys, I would give everybody a little peek into what's going on in the
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creative firmament that is my house right now, because as everyone knows, there is a
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lot of bad stuff going around.
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And as a result, my family has been staying inside for days, which many families are.
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And I think many families are doing what we are doing, which is going insane.
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Going from that point where it's like, oh, this is family togetherness, to the point
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where it's like the movie Cube, or anything where people have to spend the night in a
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haunted house and only one can survive, you know, to win the money.
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Like an existential nightmare.
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Yes.
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That's the way that Gabriel, my 19-month-old, described it earlier today.
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It is kind of extreme patience therapy, though.
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I've tried looking at it that way to make myself feel better about it, because if Audrey
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and I feel like on the verge of an argument, it's like, okay, I'm just gonna stop right
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now, because we cannot go anywhere else.
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And do you always do it in the movie phone voice?
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Yeah.
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You have selected lower tension.
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If you would like to continue lowering the tension, press one.
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If you would like to return to the argument and raise the tension, press two.
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You have chosen two.
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Very surprising.
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If you would like me to keep the subject of the argument around this specific minor thing,
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press one.
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If you would like me to extrapolate to deeper personal issues between us, press two.
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Oh, wow.
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Two.
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Wow.
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Okay.
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If you would like me to refer to a private thing you shared with me that is very hurtful
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to you, press one.
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If you would like me to guilt you over something you have done to me that I previously said
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I forgave you for, but secretly was still holding onto in the back of my mind, press
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two.
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Uh-huh, yeah.
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This is very revealing.
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What I love is that at some point, she must have selected the bitchy reaction to her responses
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button.
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Ooh, wow.
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Are you sure?
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Ooh, I've been burned.
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That's more of like a soundboard or like one of those machines you get at the drugstore
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that just has a bunch of different sounds.
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You know the one, Dan.
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You have one, right?
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Sound machine?
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Never heard of it.
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Yeah.
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Well, it's made in Miami.
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I call it the made in Miami sound machine.
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There's probably a shorter way of saying that, but ...
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Yeah, I think you could lop off at least two words.
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Okay, now, guys, what I wanted to share with you was that out of nowhere, not in any way
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inspired by me, not prompted in any way, my son, my older son, Samuel, has decided to
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write a book, and he has ... Out of nowhere, he's just started writing it.
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At first, he was dictating it to me, and then he started typing it himself, and I just thought
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I'd share with you guys and maybe the world at large a little bit of his work.
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It's a work in progress.
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He has been revising it as he goes, but he told me ...
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Do you want notes on this?
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No, I don't think so, but I mean, tell me and maybe I'll tell him, but he told me it
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was okay.
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He gave me permission to share it with the podcast audience, even though he doesn't even
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want me to tell my family members the title because he doesn't want to spoil it, but I
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said, could I read some of it on the podcast, and he said, yes, so ...
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Now, this isn't some kind of backdoor pilot for my son wrote a porno or something, right?
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I mean, it is amateur erotic fiction, if that's what you're wondering about.
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Oh, no.
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He should never have been in the room when we did that Veronica episode.
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He said he has to be ... He was not in the room.
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I want to clarify this for people who have wondered this on Twitter.
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Because we had to cut out a bunch of Max Von Drive talk, our editor, Jordan Cowling, took
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out a lot of Sammy, who was there to pluck on the heartstrings, and one of the things
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that got lost was him leaving the room.
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So it's easy to believe that he was just there as we talked about the many inappropriate
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things in Veronica.
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Let's just say NSFW content.
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Not safe for ... I mean, nobody's working right now, so not safe for what, like walruses?
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I mean, there's plenty of people working, Elliot.
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There's people that deliver your food, bring you groceries, all those sorts of things.
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That's true.
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Lots of people are working.
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You're right, Stuart.
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Lots of people are working, and I'm very glad that they are, because they're keeping our
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world alive.
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But speaking of keeping things alive, perhaps I'll keep your spirit of suspense and thrills
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alive with a little preview of this book by Sammy.
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He's entitled it The Mystery of the Stinky Cheese.
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The title was the first thing he told us about, and Dan, I know you love mysteries, and Stuart,
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I know you love stink.
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So it's right up your alley.
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I think we both love cheese, too.
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Well, Stuart, you know, it has a little tummy problem for you, I guess.
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It does.
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Thank you for bringing that up in front of everybody, Dan.
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I'm sorry.
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The most common stomach issue that anyone has, that lactose does not agree with you
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all the time.
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Actually, Dan, the most common stomach issue is hunger.
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Wow.
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Are we trying to out-break each other, is that what's going on?
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I think we are.
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Earlier on I had to correct Elliot about how time zones work, so I guess I had mine already
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off air.
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Yeah, that's true.
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And you corrected me hard.
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You really rubbed it in.
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So, The Mystery of the Stinky Cheese.
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This is a novel.
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It's multiple chapters.
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So, chapter one.
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Are you ready?
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Uh-huh.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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The Mystery of the Stinky Cheese by Samuel Kaelin.
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Okay.
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Chapter one.
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There once was a place called Mouseville, and in Mouseville there was a contest with
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who had the most cheese in Mouseville.
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But everyone did not have their cheese because someone stole it overnight.
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It was in a big case, and someone stole it.
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The mystery begins.
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That's the end of chapter one.
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Oh, wow.
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Oh, wow.
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That's a teaser.
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That was, when he wrote that line, I was like, thank you, yes, beautiful, I love it.
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Well, I like that he leans fully into the brand of Mouseville by mentioning it multiple
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times.
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Even within the same sentence.
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Yeah.
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He's establishing it.
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Yeah, it's IP building.
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World building.
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Yeah.
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It's world right off.
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And I love how he eschews kind of a normal narrator style to go for more of like sort
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of someone introducing a movie on television.
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Like the mystery begins.
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Something like that.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Chapter two.
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Beginning of the mystery.
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Chapter one did not have a chapter title, but the rest of the chapters have titles.
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Chapter two.
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Beginning of the mystery.
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And the kind of person that stole the cheese is obviously easy, but we don't know which
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one of them stole it.
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They are mean to Mouseville because they are tigers.
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Even though the mice are, wait, this is where there's a twist.
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Even though the mice are bigger than the tigers, the mice cannot defeat them.
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What?
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Yeah.
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You told me I could read it.
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Uh oh.
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Sammy, do you want to come in?
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Hold on.
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Sammy, come on.
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Oh, Sammy is now interrupting and saying that I can't read it.
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Sammy, come on over.
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No, it's okay.
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Straight from the bath, I assume.
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I mean, I have some, I have some clarifying questions.
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No, he can't hear you because he doesn't have headphones on.
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Sammy, would you like to tell them, are you saying I can't read any more of the story?
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Uh huh.
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Okay, because you told me before that I could read it on the podcast, but you changed your
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mind?
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Okay, do you want to talk about it at all?
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No.
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Okay, what was the inspiration for it?
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He just shrugged his shoulders.
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Oh, wow.
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Okay, Sammy, I will respect your wishes and I will read no more of it, okay?
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I was just proud of it, but okay, have a good night.
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Bye, Daddy.
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Okay, bye, Daddy.
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Have a good night.
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Bye, Daddy.
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But you're Sammy.
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Bye, Sammy.
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I love you.
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Oh, weird.
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Yeah, I called him Daddy by accident.
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But you promised me, Elliot, that eventually when Sammy's a little more willing to share
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that I get a little closure, because the idea ... I was taken by surprise by a number of
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things in just those few sentences of Jeff or two.
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He is a master of twists and turns.
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He is constantly surprising you.
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I think it was A.E.
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Van Voight who said that you needed a story twist like every 300 words, and he's beaten
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that limit.
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I'm not even going to mention to you the volcano that shoots cheese, and I think I won't tell
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you about the big battle that ends when a mysterious riddle message appears, and everybody
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is frozen in place, and that's when the detective comes in.
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Goddamn it.
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Actually, you know what?
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I'll give you just a teaser.
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Maybe he won't be upset about this.
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Okay?
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Okay.
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I'll just read you the beginning of one chapter and then a little bit of the rest.
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Okay?
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Okay.
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I'll give you just a teaser.
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Maybe he won't be upset about this.
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Okay?
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Okay.
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I'll just read you the beginning of one chapter and then a little bit in the middle.
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No, this is the beginning of chapter seven, which is called chapter seven, five o'clock.
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The detective was coming at five o'clock in the morning.
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He woke up at two o'clock in the morning.
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He did not like it.
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His brother woke him up.
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Then he had a real mystery to solve, so that's based on reality, which is Sammy's little
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brother waking him up, and then in chapter eight, another plan, so the detective comes
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in.
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He was there.
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Hi, he said.
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I am here.
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Why?
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Because you slept in today.
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You are late.
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As late as you can be.
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Why are you staring at me?
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I'm not staring at you.
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You are still staring.
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So that's a dumb dialogue between the detective and somebody else there.
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So I guess that's all I can share with you, because I'm going to have to respect Sammy's
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wishes and not tell you anymore.
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Yeah.
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Oh, man.
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What a ... I mean, the art of the trailer there, first off, like you're just given just
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enough of a taste.
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Yeah.
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Without spoiling the whole plot.
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That was the teaser release.
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That was the teaser.
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And maybe I'll talk to him.
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Maybe he'll allow me to reveal some more.
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But you know.
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Yeah.
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Stuart, I'm starting to think that this is kind of a little suspicious.
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I think maybe he always meant to give us one taste for free, and now he's counting on the
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money that's going to roll in once this gets published.
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Yeah.
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It's weird.
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On this Skype call, there's this Patreon link that keeps popping up.
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Yeah.
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Sammy is really into crowdfunding and crowdsourcing, and he says-
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And crowd surfing.
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And crowd surfing.
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He says he can't take him to a concert, because he will just climb on that stage, and he'll
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just jump onto people's hands.
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And then he'll start stealing their rings and their watches.
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He's kind of like the Artful Dodger if the Artful Dodger went to a lot more concerts.
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Uh-huh.
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Mm-hmm.
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Well, yeah.
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I'm sorry, guys, that this is just a teaser.
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You know, this is just the teaser dropping, but that's the way that modern entertainment
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is.
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First, you advertise that the teaser is dropping, and the teaser drops to reveal the release
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date.
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It's the teaser of the teaser.
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Yeah.
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I'm familiar.
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Yeah.
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I remember when I was watching the teaser.
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Yeah.
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They showed me one shot of Vin Diesel surfing on a car and then catching a different car,
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and I'm like, what?
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Wait, wait.
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Catching a different car?
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Like, in his hands?
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Yeah.
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Like, the car flips, and he catches it with his hands.
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Yeah.
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Or the shot where he somehow manages to drive along a suspension bridge, like a rope bridge
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that is falling off on one side, but he's going so fast that he can continue to drive
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up the slats.
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Uh-huh.
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He's trying to find gravity from Wicked?
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Yeah.
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Now, wait.
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I haven't seen this teaser.
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So he catches a car in his hands?
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Yeah, yeah.
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Just watch it.
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It's on F9.
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No, no.
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But so where do his hands go on the car?
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So he's surfing on top of the car.
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Just press F9 on your keyboard.
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Yeah.
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Dan, I have a Mac keyboard.
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There's no function keys.
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It's not going to work.
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So hit the function key and then hit the nine key.
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I hit the fast and furious key.
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I was in a Zoom meeting the other day, and I was typing too fast, and I accidentally
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hit the fast and furious key, and suddenly my computer froze up, and it was just Vin
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Diesel catching cars on my screen.
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So he catches it.
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Wait.
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So he's like, I don't understand.
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Does he catch it by like, he grabs onto part of it?
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I know you want me to paint a word picture, but it's very difficult, Elliot.
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So imagine Dominic Toretto.
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Dominic Toretto is surfing on top of a muscle car.
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Now is he surfing on water?
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No, he's standing on top of the muscle car, on the roof.
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Oh, so he's like Stiles.
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He's like van surfing like Stiles.
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And then one car like flips sideways, and it looks like it's going to like land with
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its top on top of his car, but instead he just catches it.
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But how does he lift a car?
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Elliot, that's the question I'm asking.
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That's the question that that trailer brings up, and only the movie can answer it.
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Because I know the Fast and Furious movies have gotten pretty unrealistic, but are they
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saying that he has super strength now, or is it just that he only has power over cars?
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I mean, I think it's both of those things.
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I mean, I feel like those are movies where as long as you're touching your car, you're
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going to be okay.
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I think Stewart is, it definitely looks like he's catching a car, but I think it's just
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because he has his arms out to block it, and a car comes whizzing at him.
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That's how you catch a ball, is you put your arms out and block it.
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Yeah, that's true.
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You don't block it, you know, you catch it.
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I mean, I wonder, maybe there's a scene where like someone poisons him, and he has to get
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his keys out so he can get into the car in time, because once he's sitting in the car,
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nothing, I guess a charm is put on the car early in the movie by a wizard or a pixie
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or something.
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There's probably a scene where he has to wrestle Heracles, and Heracles keeps letting him heal
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his wounds by sitting on his car, right?
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Yeah, yeah, of course, yeah.
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And Heracles realized the only way to stop Dominic Toretto is to lift him up off of Mother
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Car.
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Yeah, you know, speaking of Heracles, I thought that, I was very surprised, going back to
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Sammy's story, that the tigers were the mice, their enemies, because I know that at least
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lions, another big cat, are friends with mice after the thorn incident.
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Yeah, Dan, I guess all big cats are the same, racists.
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Oh, wow.
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You're the guy who's like, you're running to like a puma at a bar, and you're like,
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hey, out of my way, out of my way, cougar, and he's like, excuse me, excuse me?
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And I go, yeah, no, I was just talking to Courtney Cox, star of Cougar Town.
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And the puma's like, oh my god, I'm such a big fan.
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Monica, can I have your autograph?
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Oh, that's embarrassing.
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I called you Monica.
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And Dan, you're like, well, I'm not Courtney Cox.
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I was talking to her.
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You seem to have gotten me mistaken with her.
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And he's like, Courtney, you've really changed.
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You have a beard.
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You're a man now.
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I mean, I love it.
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These are all good changes.
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But what are you going to do next in your career?
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And you're like, well, you know, I'm still at the Daily Show.
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And he's like, Courtney Cox is on the Daily Show?
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And that's when I step in, and I'm like, guys, there's a big misunderstanding right here.
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Yeah.
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Well, I mean, this shows that weaving a tail is passed down in the Kaelin family.
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Oh, yeah.
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I mean, where do you think he got it from?
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Where do you think he got the ability to spin nonsense into yarn?
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And then use that yarn to make a sweater that doesn't quite fit?
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Mm-hmm.
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Yep.
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Stuart seems...
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How are you doing over there in that other box, Stuart?
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That other box?
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I'm looking at you.
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Well, you know, I was trying to come up with some kind of story where, like, Elliot and
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Sammy show up to a woman, and they teach her how to spin hay into, like, a bullshit story.
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But they demand a baby in return, you know, that kind of thing.
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Mm-hmm.
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And that's how I had my second son.
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And they have to guess your names, and she just pulls out a book of common male names.
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It's not really that hard.
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You know, like, it takes a while, but they get to Elliot and Sammy, both.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Wow.
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I mean, we got a lot done today here, guys.
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And I, yeah, I feel like we accomplished a lot.
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We could check a lot off our bucket list.
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I want to apologize to the listeners at home that they only got the barest tip of the iceberg
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that is Sammy's emerging magnum opus.
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But maybe I can prevail on him to let me share a little more in the future.
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Next week, we'll be back to our regular format, where, what did we do again on this show?
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I don't remember.
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We watch a bad movie, and then we talk about it.
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Right.
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And then we play when Elliot pitches his upcoming paywall content.
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Okay, guys.
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We'll see you next time.
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Bye.
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Bye.
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Bye.
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Stay safe.
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Okay.
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Let's count off, too.
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You ready?
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Uh-huh.
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One.
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Two.
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Three.
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Three.
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Wait, Dan, why are you saying three?
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Sorry.
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I spaced out because there was a legal warning up at the top of Skype telling me that people
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need to know that they're being recorded.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Sorry.
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All right.
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Let's do it again.
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One.
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Two.
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Three.
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Four.
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Five.
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Six.
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Six.
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Seven.
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Eight.
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Dan, okay.
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You know what?
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Let's restart this recording.
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Okay.
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No.
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No, no, no.
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Yes.
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There's a minute of ... Okay.
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No, no, no.
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No, no.
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Okay.
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One.
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Two.
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One.
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Say one again.
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One.
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Two.
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Three.
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Four.
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Five.
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Six.
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Seven.
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Eight.
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Nine.
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Jordan, I know this is just a mini, but please put that at the end.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Dan's inability to remember how many people are on the call.
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Elliott gives us a preview of his son Sammy's novel, and then things take a turn.
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