FH Mini 5 - More Time with Griffin

Elliott Kalan

[0:00] I'd love to hear more stories of Griffin's showbiz life, you know.

Griffin Newman

[0:08] Oh, so many stories.

[0:10] I'm like Robert Evans.

[0:12] It's an endless well.

Dan McCoy

[0:14] Well, that is one of the things that got a lot of requests for on Twitter,

[0:17] but I don't know the degree to which Griffin feels comfortable sharing a lot of that stuff,

[0:22] so that's up to him.

[0:22] You can ask him. He's right there.

[0:24] I mean, yeah, you can test me.

Griffin Newman

[0:25] I feel like there's very little I'm not comfortable talking about.

Elliott Kalan

[0:29] What was it like when you and Ally McGraw split up?

Griffin Newman

[0:33] Rough. Real rough.

[0:35] Okay.

[0:35] Because you have to remember, like, we're coming off of a big hit.

[0:40] Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[0:42] Because I just, I mean, I know I was just making a joke about it,

[0:45] but for context, I was in a throuple with Robert Evans and Ally McGraw.

[0:50] Yeah.

[0:50] Evans and I both produced Love Story.

[0:54] Yeah.

[0:54] So it was just like every angle.

[0:57] And I broke up with both of them at the same time because they broke up later,

[1:01] but they first broke up with me and vice versa.

[1:04] But you also left them for Steve McQueen, right?

[1:06] Oh, so you inspired their breakup.

[1:07] Yeah.

[1:07] Well, because it was originally me and Ally,

[1:10] and then we were like, we should find a third.

[1:12] And then she was like, what about the most powerful person at Paramount?

[1:16] And I was like, yeah, that seems like that could help both of us.

[1:19] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[1:20] Yeah.

[1:20] I mean, that'll fix the power dynamic, right?

Griffin Newman

[1:24] Right.

[1:24] And then, yeah.

[1:25] No, she found him a little more valuable than me in every sense.

Elliott Kalan

[1:28] Oh, that's too bad.

[1:30] Well, you got the last laugh on her.

Dan McCoy

[1:35] In this made-up scenario.

[1:37] Yeah.

[1:37] Thank God.

[1:38] Yeah.

[1:40] Were there actual questions?

[1:42] Yeah.

[1:42] Do you want to?

[1:43] I feel like I should give you a buffet here.

[1:45] I'm done a test.

Griffin Newman

[1:46] I'll say pass if I can't answer.

[1:48] Yeah.

[1:49] Yeah, yeah.

[1:49] If I feel like, yeah, I shouldn't answer.

Stuart Wellington

[1:51] I'll say pass, too.

[1:53] Yeah, don't ask me about Families of the Mafia.

[1:57] I'm not allowed to talk about that.

Elliott Kalan

[1:59] I might pass on anything.

Stuart Wellington

[2:01] Do you think doing the first edition of your one-man show about Watto is what caused the lockdown?

[2:07] Because they wanted that to be the only, the Illuminati wanted that to be the only performance?

Griffin Newman

[2:13] I will say this.

[2:14] I do feel very weird about the fact that there were five days, six maybe, less than a week between when I did the first and probably only performance of my one-man Watto show,

[2:26] and when the UCB New York closed down maybe forever.

[2:31] It was like a very short period of time between the two.

Elliott Kalan

[2:35] So this is going to be one of those shows like Moose Murders or something where people are like, oh, yeah, I was there when they weren't really there.

[2:41] But they want to be part of that history.

[2:43] A hundred percent.

[2:44] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[2:45] In the neighborhood I live in, it's everybody claims to have gotten the very last steak from Denny's Steak Pub, which is a dive bar.

[2:54] And it's like, dude, I've talked to like 10 guys who've had the last steak at Denny's.

[2:59] It's impossible.

Griffin Newman

[2:59] They didn't have that much seating.

[3:01] You couldn't even have been parallel with someone having the last steak.

[3:05] You weren't all sharing one steak.

[3:07] Right.

[3:09] My Watto thing, it's weird.

[3:11] I mean, I've talked about this, but like Blank Check started out as a podcast solely about the Phantom Menace.

[3:17] That was the idea that David Sims and I had.

[3:20] And then that evolved into a podcast where we covered all the Star Wars movies, which then we retrofitted into, oh, that ended up being more about George Lucas.

[3:29] Let's pick different directors and go through all their movies in that way.

[3:34] And Watto was just the character that I was innately drawn to when the Phantom Menace came out.

[3:41] He was like far and away my favorite character.

[3:43] He was the character I bought merchandise of.

[3:46] And watching the film like through vaguely adult eyes, recognizing now in a way I did when I was a child how anti-Semitic that character is.

[3:57] I wonder if the reason I connected to that character so strongly is because he reminded me of a relative.

[4:04] Like he felt like an elderly relative.

Elliott Kalan

[4:06] I think that would have been my guess is that you connected to him because you saw the similarities.

[4:14] I think so.

[4:15] And you didn't know that it was so way over the top and that it wasn't created by people who were of that same type.

[4:22] Totally.

Griffin Newman

[4:22] It was like totally right.

[4:24] So then we started re-watching the movie for the podcast.

[4:27] It started hitting really hard.

[4:28] And I started doing this Watto impression all the time on the podcast.

[4:32] And then I have a buddy, Connor Ratliff, who for my money is the best improviser in New York City, started doing this show called the George Lucas Talk Show.

[4:41] Where he would do an hour long talk show where he would interview people as themselves, as serious guests, people who had projects to promote.

[4:53] But he would do the whole thing in character as George Lucas.

[4:56] And the bit was George Lucas is the least charismatic man of all time, trying his hardest to succeed in a format that is based solely on personality.

[5:06] And he had a guy named Sean Distin who was Jar Jar Binks as a sidekick for a number of years.

[5:13] And then Sean Distin moved to L.A.

[5:15] So I asked, can I start doing Watto as your sidekick?

[5:18] Which over a period of time, I did Watto for like three years.

[5:23] Now we wonder if we'll ever do the show ever again.

[5:26] But it culminated me doing a one-man show as Watto, pretending like I was doing Watto's Las Vegas Cabaret Review.

[5:34] So I rewrote like seven songs with Star Wars specifics and did Broadway standards in Watto's voice.

[5:42] And that is apparently the thing that ended all live comedy.

[5:45] It just, everything shut down right after that show.

Elliott Kalan

[5:48] I think that was, it had reached a certain level of ironic singularity.

[5:53] Yes.

[5:54] And I think God was like, okay, they have had enough comedy.

[5:58] It is time for a catastrophe to overwhelm everybody's lives.

[6:01] Yeah.

Griffin Newman

[6:01] Yes.

[6:02] So that's my relationship with Watto and how, not to be self-aggrandizing, but it might have ended all comedy forever.

Stuart Wellington

[6:08] Yeah.

[6:08] It was like the, like a cosmic tragedy and comedy mask pairing.

Griffin Newman

[6:13] Yeah.

[6:13] Yes.

[6:14] Yeah.

[6:14] Right.

[6:15] It ended with Watto crying and chugging a beer on steak.

[6:18] Nothing was left to be said in the medium of comedy.

Elliott Kalan

[6:23] Do you guys have any Watto memories?

Stuart Wellington

[6:26] Oh boy.

[6:29] I remember as soon as a friend of mine really wanted to play the most recent iteration of the Star Wars role-playing game.

[6:35] And he's like, what kind of, he's like, what character do you want to play?

[6:38] I'm like, I want to be a Watto.

[6:40] He's like, they have a, they have a name.

[6:43] Like, uh, yeah, I guess I'll be a Toy Darian then.

Elliott Kalan

[6:46] I like that you're, you're being casually racist about a racist caricature alien.

Dan McCoy

[6:51] You know, one of those Watto types controls the media.

[6:55] I think growing up in the Midwest, I just did not have enough, uh, contact with, like, Jewish people in my life as, as, uh, living, living amongst the Gentiles.

[7:08] Like, I didn't realize to what degree that was a stereotype.

[7:12] Like, I, I was very disturbed by the, um, the traders at the beginning who are so clearly, uh, Asians, uh, who are, like, plotting Asians.

[7:22] The Neimoidians you speak of.

[7:23] Yeah.

[7:24] And that was, like, those were people that I were familiar with.

Elliott Kalan

[7:28] But, yeah.

[7:29] And you, but you were like, you're like, I love this totally fictional, like, bizarre, hypothetical, like, pushy, greedy, hook-nosed character who always has, like, a stubbly beard all the time and lives in a desert.

Griffin Newman

[7:42] Incredible creation.

Elliott Kalan

[7:43] Yeah.

[7:44] You were just like, George, George, leave it to George Lucas, master monster maker.

[7:48] Right.

[7:48] George Lucas.

[7:49] But to, to imagine such a far out thing.

Griffin Newman

[7:52] But it's a good point, too.

[7:53] I think there were two things that was connecting to me, like, connecting for me.

[7:57] One is the, the Jewish, uh, anti-Semitism that I was registering as, oh, what, what a comfortable character type that I love.

[8:07] And then two, that Watto is, like, one of the only characters who feels like a city dweller.

[8:12] Like, I was, like, a New York City Jew.

[8:14] And here's this guy, like, haggling prices who seems a little bit exhausted, you know, like, hasn't shaved.

[8:21] And I'm like, I get this.

[8:22] Like, this guy is, like, I talk to this guy four or five times a day.

Elliott Kalan

[8:26] Oh, yeah.

[8:27] He is noticeably shorter than every other character, including the child.

Griffin Newman

[8:31] Right.

[8:31] Yeah.

[8:31] Everything about him.

[8:32] Right.

[8:32] Because I feel like most kids were connecting to Anakin.

[8:34] I was like, this Watto guy.

[8:36] I'm in safe hands here.

[8:38] I feel like this.

[8:39] With this slave owner.

Stuart Wellington

[8:40] They establish rules right away.

[8:43] They explain Jedi mind tricks don't work on him.

Elliott Kalan

[8:46] That's incredible.

[8:46] Right.

Elliott Kalan

[8:46] It's a trade area.

[8:47] Mind tricks don't work on him.

[8:48] I thought the scene where he, he took that Rodian child and drained its blood and then made matzah out of it was a bit much.

[8:54] It was a bit much.

[8:56] Yeah.

[8:58] Yeah, I'll agree with that.

[8:59] So I was, I think I'm, I'm a little older than you, Griffin.

[9:03] And these guys, the other two guys are much older than you.

[9:05] I'm just a little older than you.

[9:06] So I was, so I was old enough when I saw it that I was, when I saw it, I was like, oh, this is not okay.

[9:12] Like, this is.

[9:13] But there was still part of me that was, was like, but all right, it's Star Wars.

[9:17] Maybe I'm wrong.

[9:18] Maybe this is, maybe this is okay.

[9:20] Because it's Star Wars.

[9:20] Yeah, you're like, you're saying representation matters, right?

[9:23] Is what you're saying?

[9:23] Yeah, that's, I was saying finally, finally a Jewish person, a Jewish character in the Star Wars universe.

[9:28] My prayers were answered.

[9:30] I was so busy trying to force in my imagination, Peter Parker to be a Jewish character when reality has resisted that.

[9:39] And it was years from when people were like, okay, let's just admit that thing is Jewish.

[9:44] And he's, he's the Jewish member of the Fantastic Four.

[9:47] So, you know, who did I have to, who did I have?

[9:49] Portnoy?

[9:50] Was that the only fictional character I could call my own?

[9:53] You know?

[9:54] Yeah.

Griffin Newman

[9:54] Yeah.

[9:55] I mean, no, it was Watto.

[9:56] We were taking what we could get at that point in time.

Elliott Kalan

[10:00] Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[10:01] It was either, we could either have Watto or we could have a parade of kind of like, it was Woody Allen or Watto.

[10:07] Those are the two choices, you know.

Griffin Newman

[10:09] And it's a real devil's bargain.

[10:11] It's a real coin flip on terms of which one is a worse role model.

[10:15] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[10:18] So, so Dan, if Watto isn't your favorite character, what character did you connect with most in the Phantom Menace?

[10:24] Yeah, who did you relate to?

Griffin Newman

[10:26] Of all the audience surrogates in the Phantom Menace, which one really felt fully developed, personable?

Stuart Wellington

[10:33] Are you going to say Keira Knightley is one of the stand-ins for Natalie Port?

[10:39] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[10:40] I think you're probably going to say.

[10:40] Royal Decoy, Sabeg?

[10:41] I could see, I could see Qui-Gon being your guy, Dan.

[10:45] He's kind of like, you know, he's just a guy people look to for answers.

[10:49] He doesn't necessarily have them.

[10:50] Honestly.

[10:51] And he's just kind of got not much other going on for him personality-wise.

[10:56] Bearded.

[10:56] I like that he has a quiet gravity, Elliot.

[11:00] He has a Qui-Gon gravity.

Dan McCoy

[11:03] Yeah, he admits of gravity force around him.

Elliott Kalan

[11:06] Well, there was a, one of the things that I did not like about a to-be-unnamed internet video about the Phantom Menace,

[11:13] where I thought they, you know, it was all about criticizing it, and this was one criticism I thought was not fair,

[11:17] was they were like, describe the Star Wars characters from the old movies with, you know,

[11:21] right off the top of your head, and then describe the new ones off the top of your head,

[11:24] and people couldn't do it.

[11:25] It was like, well, yeah, because how many times have you seen the new movie?

[11:28] Like, once?

[11:28] Come on.

[11:29] Yeah, yeah.

[11:30] And they couldn't describe Qui-Gon, but it was like, okay, Qui-Gon, he's a dignified kind of honorable Jedi,

[11:36] and he doesn't joke around, but they couldn't do it.

[11:38] It was like, so could this character be all characters?

[11:41] I don't understand.

[11:42] Is he like a Harlem detective, but he's also like a court jester from the 15th century?

[11:47] Like, yes, you can describe him a little bit, you know.

Griffin Newman

[11:50] No, Qui-Gon in particular, you can definitely describe.

[11:53] Like, that's the character that tracks the cleanest throughout the movie and the performance works.

[11:57] Not to touch the third rail of the internet, but that's one of those things where, like, I feel,

[12:04] I would hear people complain about the Laura Dern character in The Last Jedi and say, like,

[12:10] I mean, why are we supposed to just accept that this character is, like, an admiral?

[12:15] Like, we don't know her.

[12:16] We know nothing about her.

[12:17] And I'm like, you know nothing about Admiral Ackbar.

[12:20] The difference is you've known nothing about him your entire life, so he feels like he's

[12:25] earned that position because you have taken him as a given.

[12:28] You don't know his fucking credentials.

Elliott Kalan

[12:31] Every Star Wars movie is about introducing a load of top rebel brass that you've never heard

[12:35] of before.

[12:36] And you're, I guess, okay, General Dodonna.

[12:38] You just accept it.

[12:39] Right, exactly.

[12:39] All right, okay.

[12:40] I've been following the farm boy and the pirate and the princess all this time, but I'm

[12:43] sure there's this general.

[12:44] Okay, yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[12:45] Like, is Mon her first name?

Griffin Newman

[12:47] Or is that like a...

[12:48] Right, right.

[12:48] Is that a name or is it a title?

[12:50] But, like, for people to cross their arms and go, like, well, I mean, this woman has done

[12:54] nothing to prove to me that she's worthy of that title.

[12:57] It's like, she came on screen two minutes ago.

Elliott Kalan

[13:00] And also the fact that she's...

[13:01] You know nothing.

[13:02] The fact that she's played by Laura Dern, like, she already carries all the gravity and

[13:05] authority that you need.

[13:06] Exactly.

[13:07] Yeah, look at that neck.

[13:08] I mean, I loved in that movie how right she was and how wrong Poe was.

[13:13] Like, the whole point of the movie was like, no, Poe.

[13:18] We have a hierarchy in the military for a reason.

[13:20] Like, you can't just free boot around, moron.

[13:22] Like, that made me very happy.

Griffin Newman

[13:24] Yeah, I wonder if that's why people don't like the character.

[13:27] It's almost like there's something that they're not interrogating in terms of their automatic

[13:31] response to a woman telling a man that he needs to listen to her.

Elliott Kalan

[13:35] I think that's unlikely.

[13:36] Really?

[13:37] I don't know.

[13:38] I mean, more likely they just didn't like the color of her hair.

Griffin Newman

[13:41] But what a good color.

[13:43] I mean, that's just a bad opinion.

[13:45] Oh, no.

[13:45] No, sure.

Stuart Wellington

[13:46] So just to jump back a little bit, of course, the character I connected most with, you'd think

[13:50] I'd say Chancellor Valorum because he's got a quiet dignity and he's resigned to losing.

[13:55] I think I know who you're going to say.

Elliott Kalan

[13:56] It's Boss Nass, baby.

[13:57] Boss Nass.

[13:59] Boss Nass is a great guy.

[14:00] What's the Jedi with the big tall head?

[14:03] Oh, Ki-Adi-Mundi?

[14:04] Yeah, I thought you were saying Ki-Adi-Mundi.

[14:06] No, he's my favorite character.

[14:09] But you wish.

[14:11] But Boss Nass was the character that spoke to you.

Stuart Wellington

[14:13] Yeah, that's the thing is when I, growing up as a tall, heavyset, handsome white guy

[14:21] from the Midwest, I was like, if only I could be a Ki-Adi-Mundi type.

[14:27] Sure.

Dan McCoy

[14:29] Well, guys, I think we finally did it.

[14:31] Four guys on the internet talked about Star Wars.

[14:35] Finally.

Elliott Kalan

[14:36] It never happened before and it'll never happen again.

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Griffin Newman

[15:22] I did...

[15:24] For a long time, the only thing anyone would hire me to do as an actor was play some type

[15:29] of computer expert.

[15:31] It was either that or personal assistant.

[15:35] And very often, the two would sort of cross over.

[15:38] They were very similar.

[15:40] But I did two episodes on Blue Bloods.

[15:45] Oh, cool.

[15:45] Where they were testing out whether they wanted a computer nerd character that I think went

[15:50] out the window once Donnie Wahlberg decided he didn't like me.

[15:55] Because he would like, on set be like, why did we hire this kid?

[15:59] I don't get it.

[16:00] And I'd be like, oh, cool.

[16:01] Thank you very much, Mr. Wahlberg.

Elliott Kalan

[16:04] Did he at least give you a card for lifetime Wahlbergers?

Griffin Newman

[16:07] He did.

[16:08] He did.

[16:09] Yeah.

[16:11] It was just a key to the dumpster behind any Wahlberger location.

[16:17] That's...

[16:18] They...

Elliott Kalan

[16:19] Yeah, they lock it up.

[16:21] They lock it up.

[16:22] They don't want raccoons getting in there.

[16:23] So, I mean, you're better than a raccoon.

[16:24] But they also have a skeleton key for everyone.

Griffin Newman

[16:27] Yeah, it's one.

[16:28] There was a scene I had to do where I had found the, like, smoking gun or some important

[16:33] piece of evidence about a missing person through their social media profile.

[16:37] And the line I had to say was, okay, so I located her social gizmo profile.

[16:43] And it was one of the hardest things I've ever had to do as an actor.

[16:46] Because just every time it bumped coming out of my mouth, being like, why would anyone

[16:51] ever sign up for a fucking website called social gizmo?

[16:55] There is just no universe, no matter how fantastical, in which that acquires enough of a user base

[17:01] that the NYPD would be using it for evidence.

[17:05] Like, impossible.

Elliott Kalan

[17:06] The only way I can imagine is if there was a different timeline for technology.

[17:12] And social media existed when gremlins came out.

[17:15] And piggybacking on everyone's love of gizmo, they created this thing where it's like you

[17:19] get to pretend to be gizmo's friend.

[17:21] Right.

[17:21] It's social gizmo.

[17:21] You wouldn't want to be gizmo's friend as long as you follow the three rules of gizmo.

[17:25] One, don't feed him after midnight.

[17:27] Two, do not get him drunk.

[17:29] Three, don't mention his ex-wife.

[17:31] He's saying.

[17:32] But it's like, but otherwise, why wouldn't you want to be friends with him?

[17:36] So that's the only reality I can imagine where that's successful.

Griffin Newman

[17:38] Social gizmo sounds like a branded gremlins, Tamagotchi knockoff.

[17:44] Like, that's what it sounds like.

[17:45] It doesn't sound like a Facebook equivalent, which was what they were asking me to sell.

Dan McCoy

[17:51] Now, did you work with Tom Selleck?

[17:53] Tom Selleck, which I asked because even though my dad is a college professor, like lefty guy,

[18:03] and Tom Selleck is a noted National Review pitchman.

[18:08] He loves guns.

[18:08] You mean National Rifle Association, right?

[18:10] Yeah.

[18:10] Well, that too, but he also does it.

[18:12] All of them.

[18:12] He does it for the National Review?

[18:13] Yeah, yeah.

[18:14] He would do ads for them all the time.

[18:16] I didn't know that.

Griffin Newman

[18:16] And National Lampoon.

[18:17] He likes anything national.

[18:19] Anything national.

Elliott Kalan

[18:20] National Broadcasting Corporation.

[18:21] Loves it.

[18:23] National Rental.

[18:24] Which is why he's on CBS.

Dan McCoy

[18:25] When I was a kid, my dad loved Magnum P.I.

[18:29] That was his hero.

[18:30] Yeah.

[18:30] So I'm just curious.

[18:33] I feel a certain.

Griffin Newman

[18:34] No, I never got to work with him.

[18:36] That show is kind of ingeniously like four plot lines that almost never intersect.

[18:43] So it's the anti-Seinfeld.

[18:45] Right.

[18:45] It's like the four different members of this family who each work on a different side of New York City law enforcement.

[18:53] And then they, the only thing that unifies them is like family dinners.

[18:59] So I was only in the Wahlberg, Jennifer Esposito section.

Elliott Kalan

[19:04] It's too bad you didn't get, if you didn't get along better with Wahlberg, then you could have been on longer, become a friend of the family on the show and get invited to one of those dinners.

[19:11] And then meet Tom Selleck.

[19:13] And you'd be like, what was it like being Mr. Baseball?

Griffin Newman

[19:18] And I'm so glad we were able to answer so many of those questions and prompts that people wrote in.

[19:24] I really feel like we got a lot done and covered a wide breath in this little minute.

[19:28] Oh, yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[19:29] Yeah.

[19:29] I think people, knowing we, there's no questions left, right, Dan?

[19:32] I mean, well, most of them were about mustaches.

[19:35] So we did it.

[19:36] Oh, okay.

[19:36] From the ones you hand curated from Twitter?

Dan McCoy

[19:40] I don't know why I'm getting so much hassling where it's just like, you're like, oh, you can put the call out on Twitter.

[19:49] I'm like, great.

[19:50] I figured we were like sort of talking about it beforehand, but we just like rolled right into the episode and did it in the most slapdash way possible.

[19:59] Yeah, the flop house way.

Griffin Newman

[20:00] Sometimes podcasting is like jazz, man.

[20:03] You know?

[20:03] You just got to go with the flow.

Elliott Kalan

[20:06] And the people who listen to it won't stop talking about it to other people who are not interested.

Griffin Newman

[20:11] And go, no, no.

[20:11] But look, I really understand this podcast.

Elliott Kalan

[20:14] It's just like jazz where it's like, look, you're going to love this song, but first you got to listen to 70 years of other music to get to it.

Griffin Newman

[20:21] It's not about the jokes they're making.

[20:22] It's about the jokes they don't make.

Stuart Wellington

[20:25] So do we, do we, we never did a intro.

[20:29] Do we do a sign off on these?

[20:31] What's going on, Dan?

[20:31] Dan, I don't think we ever even mentioned that Griffin was joining us.

Dan McCoy

[20:34] Oh, yeah, that's true.

[20:36] Griffin Newman of the Blank Check podcast, everyone.

[20:40] So, thank you for listening.

[20:43] I was reminded it would be a good idea.

[20:45] Hey, that Cinephile livestream we did for charity, if you didn't see it live, it's on the Film Stage Facebook page.

[20:55] And if you donate to the charity that they keep putting up on the screen during it, Art House America, that helps independent theaters during this economic crisis, along with a health crisis.

[21:10] That, that if you donate to it and, you know, just give them some proof that you donated.

[21:16] I think they explain it during the cast.

[21:19] You will be entered in for a prize pack that includes Flophouse stuff, if you're interested in that sort of thing.

[21:24] Because I don't think we ever got a chance to promote it on air.

[21:28] So, it's archived over at the Film Stage Facebook.

[21:32] Sorry to hijack at the end, but I think that's a good thing to remind folks of.

[21:37] Cool.

[21:38] But anyway, thank you, Griffin, for coming back.

[21:42] Oh, my pleasure.

[21:42] To talk about a variety of nerd things.

[21:46] This has been great, guys.

[21:49] Great to see folks again.

[21:51] And for the Flophouse, I've been Dan McCoy.

[21:54] I'm still Stuart Wellington.

Elliott Kalan

[21:56] I'm Elliot Kalin.

[21:57] Didn't mention my name at the top, but I'm mentioning it now.

[22:00] And I'm Griffin Newman.

[22:02] See you guys.

[22:04] Bye.

FH Mini 5 - More Time with Griffin

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