Ep. #313 - Dolittle

[0:00] On this episode we discuss Doolittle.

[0:02] Why do they call him Doolittle? I think he does a lot in this movie.

[0:07] Stu, that's exactly what I was going to say.

[0:09] And it was what Audrey predicted was going to be the gag.

[0:13] That is the exact thing I have written in my notes to say, Stu, for this part.

[0:19] Oh, two peas in a pod.

[0:30] Hey everyone, and welcome to the Flophouse. I'm Dan McCoy.

[0:51] Oh, hey there. I'm Stuart Wellington.

[0:53] Top of the morning, or whenever you're listening to this. Midnight? I don't know.

[0:57] I'm Elliot Kalin.

[0:58] And Dan, who's joining us?

[1:00] Or Stuart?

[1:01] Or Dan?

[1:02] Or Stuart?

[1:03] I thought we decided on Stuart, but I can say it.

[1:05] It's David Sims of the Blank Check podcast, and he is the film reviewer for The Atlantic.

[1:13] And that is a big, high-toned magazine.

[1:18] That is a respected publication.

[1:21] That's a two-monocle magazine.

[1:23] That's just called Glasses still.

[1:26] Oh, what?

[1:27] hi guys thank you for having me yes i did i did uh poop all over do little in the hallowed pages

[1:34] of the atlantic which was founded by ralph waldo emerson and people like that i mean it took such

[1:40] a it took such a brave stand against slavery before and during the civil war and now you've

[1:45] continued that tradition by taking a brave stand against do little exactly i mean i thought it was

[1:50] a i mean i think it's kind of the pixies best album right oh yeah that was yeah that was another

[1:57] of the jokes that i was gonna make so we've all round robin it's not each other's jokes it's not

[2:03] my favorite but it's probably their most accomplished you're a surfer rosa man i assume

[2:08] no i was uh what because of the nudity on the cover dan the answer was when i was a kid yeah

[2:13] now i don't know the band the pixies particularly well so i'm just gonna assume they have an album

[2:20] called out the door through the window out of the line in it's a wonderful life where he says out

[2:25] you two pixies go out the door through the window and i'm gonna say that's my favorite album does

[2:29] that they have that is that a real thing uh i'm gonna go check metal archives and see if it's

[2:34] listed i mean the pixies are on metal archives uh actually no results found so no i guess not

[2:42] 80s alt rock not heavily influenced by frank capra i guess it's disappointing it's very disappointing

[2:49] I mean, but you know that punk was because John Doe, major punk figure, named himself, I assume, after the Capra movie, Meet John Doe.

[2:57] Oh.

[2:59] Okay, cool.

[3:00] And I have to assume if I ever meet him, I'll be like, meet John Doe, like the movie, and he'll laugh and laugh.

[3:06] Yeah, so normally if you're just tuning in, you're thinking this is an alternative music podcast.

[3:11] But no, in fact, we're-

[3:13] With four experts.

[3:16] Well, no. In fact, we're a movie podcast, and we watched a movie, and now we're about to talk about it.

[3:21] And what kind of movies do we watch?

[3:22] What kind of movies do we usually watch, Stu?

[3:23] You know, we kind of run the gamut sometimes. They're comedies.

[3:28] Almost always, they're moving images with sound attached.

[3:31] Very fair. Very rarely do we watch a silent painting and then review it.

[3:36] Or a silent movie. We've never watched a silent movie. Or Mel Brooks' silent movie.

[3:41] Yeah. Or The Artist, the best picture winner I consistently forget existed.

[3:46] Which is a mostly silent movie

[3:49] Now guys was that a French movie

[3:52] Because I feel like when Parasite came out

[3:54] They're like first foreign film to win the Oscar

[3:57] This is a good point

[3:58] I believe the artist is technically a French movie

[4:01] I think that it has American actors in it

[4:04] Like John Goodman is in it

[4:05] But I think what they were saying a lot of

[4:07] John Goodman's in Parasite

[4:08] Yes John Goodman plays

[4:10] You know the guy who's in The Host and Parasite

[4:15] and snow piercer that's john goodman oh wow yeah yeah he's he's in the makeup chair for hours and

[4:21] hours it's highly offensive uh no i think that what they were saying a lot was first foreign

[4:25] language film to win the oscar it seems like a weird hair splitting to me honestly but

[4:30] i mean to be honest they probably forgot that the artist existed yeah that's probably as i

[4:36] consistently do every time i look up past best picture winners i'm like oh yeah the artist

[4:40] oh yeah yeah and they used the soundtrack from vertigo in it kim novak got all mad yeah yeah

[4:45] sure the artist yeah yeah i i just spit coffee all over my office wall imagining john goodman

[4:52] being transformed magically into kang ho song i mean it would take magic it would take a spell

[5:00] of some kind or a cloak of disguise um so what moves yeah no i just to to finish the thing that

[5:08] you teed up for stewart but he deliberately uh went he zagged on you uh we normally watch bad

[5:15] movies and uh then we talk about them and uh this week we watched do little now uh guys uh do little

[5:24] of course as you all know uh is the store is a new adaptation of the classic story of dr do little

[5:30] the man who could talk to animals and i just want to say forewarning this is going to be a slightly

[5:35] awkward episode for me because i know someone who was involved in the making of do little uh i know

[5:40] actually two one person one of the screenwriters and one animal and i brought the animal with me

[5:46] just to like make sure it's okay with everybody so if you look on your screen you'll see there's

[5:51] a tiny raccoon right there oh wow hold on let me take a picture i didn't know we were getting two

[5:56] guests i didn't know we were gonna have a celebrity for the thank you thank you thank you thank you

[6:02] Thank you, thank you

[6:04] Was that Catherine Deneuve played the raccoon?

[6:07] I can't remember

[6:07] You really brought them all in

[6:10] Now, this is

[6:13] This is Rick Raccoon

[6:15] He used to be Ranger Rick

[6:17] But he was drummed out of the force, of course

[6:18] Yeah, I'd rather not talk about it

[6:20] How I was once a park ranger

[6:22] And then was dismissed

[6:23] For causes that I would call

[6:26] Unsubstantiated allegations

[6:27] That's fair

[6:28] Now your father was, of course, the famous Rocky Raccoon

[6:32] Yeah, the Beatles wrote a song about him.

[6:33] It was called Love Me Do.

[6:35] Now, Rick, you were in Doolittle.

[6:38] Yes.

[6:39] But I don't remember seeing a raccoon in the movie.

[6:41] No, they cut all my scenes.

[6:43] Oh, why did they do that?

[6:45] Well, there was a whole subplot about a raccoon that wanted to be a famous chef,

[6:50] and they thought it was too close to Ratatouille,

[6:52] and I was like, Ratatouille's about a rat, but I'm a raccoon.

[6:56] And, well, I've got to say, I totally understand the point they made.

[7:01] But what was it like being on the set of Doolittle?

[7:03] Oh, wow.

[7:04] I mean, the craziest thing was I was the only real animal in the whole movie.

[7:08] The rest was all computer animated.

[7:09] So it was just me and Bobby Downs.

[7:12] That's what I call Robert Downey Jr.

[7:13] Just looking at a bunch of tennis balls and pretending there was like gorillas or ostriches or whatever there.

[7:19] And who's going to be your celebrity voice when it was finally dubbed?

[7:23] Oh, Catherine Deneuve, just like Mr. Sims said.

[7:27] Oh, okay.

[7:28] Wow.

[7:28] So do you have any funny behind-the-scenes stories?

[7:31] No, he doesn't have anything funny about it.

[7:33] Nothing is funny about this at all.

[7:35] Two things.

[7:37] Well, Dan, well, Dan, if I could talk, please.

[7:40] Dan, Dan, Dan, if I could speak, please.

[7:43] Dan, you had your time.

[7:45] Now let me have my time.

[7:46] Excuse me.

[7:47] Excuse me.

[7:48] Excuse me, sir.

[7:49] Excuse me.

[7:51] Excuse me.

[7:52] Okay.

[7:53] Now, for the audience at home, I do have a tiny puppet on my finger.

[7:56] That's the thing you're missing out on.

[8:00] to mention is somehow it's more annoying than if he was just doing the voice that he has a puppet

[8:07] on his finger that he is continuing to move around as he talks you know i did because i'm a professional

[8:13] yeah i'm just reeling from the news that this movie had subplots that were cut out and reshoots

[8:19] i i i didn't show up that was not like apparent at all oh no wow it was crazy originally do little

[8:26] Didn't even talk to animals

[8:28] That was something they added

[8:30] It was about a guy who thinks he can talk to animals

[8:32] But he can't really and the animals are like

[8:35] Why does this guy think he understands this

[8:36] We're not saying that

[8:37] How long is this going to go on

[8:39] Hey Rick I think it's time for you to

[8:42] Head out I should probably start with a summary

[8:45] Of the movie

[8:45] Okay well I've got some other funny stories

[8:47] There was a time John Goodman stopped by but we didn't recognize him

[8:50] Because he had all this makeup on him

[8:52] And we thought it was the guy from Parasite

[8:54] It's the same guy

[8:54] really yes the same guy oh wow okay well i'm just gonna get going now see you guys

[9:00] he's slowly walking off the screen i just wanna still walking

[9:05] and he's off i want to provide a little more uh background just to say that this is i mean like

[9:14] the dr doolittle novels are by hugh lofting uh and they began in uh the first one was published

[9:23] in 1920 the final was published in 1952 there are 15 books um and uh you know some of some of

[9:32] the books were posthumous collecting uh stories that he left behind uh you gotta admire anybody's

[9:39] work ethic when they keep writing after they've died yes it's like him and an english an englishman

[9:46] uh and it comes out through his stories they have a certain i don't know they've got the

[9:52] same vibe as like mary poppins i think in a certain way like other english children's stories

[9:58] of the same basic period but there's a little bit there's a little bit of a babar in it too

[10:03] in the sense of it is the purpose of white europeans to train all animals and people to

[10:09] be like them uh which does not age well um in the books i remember loving those books when i was a

[10:17] kid but i you know i wasn't really thinking about what you know what rights does a giant talking

[10:21] snail have when uh when dr doolittle shows up to meet him i believe there's a book where he goes

[10:26] to the moon am i right i'm thinking about uh probably dr doolittle in the moon and i'm reading

[10:32] i just found this uh first sentence of the plot summary dr doolittle has landed on the moon

[10:38] so i don't know chapter one page one i mean it gets down to business you can say that for it

[10:44] well the thing was they had found a sort of alien monolith on the moon and they needed dr doolittle

[10:50] to come talk to it,

[10:51] and he's the only one

[10:53] who understood that language.

[10:54] The great communicator.

[10:56] So, Dr. Dolittle is a movie.

[11:00] That's a different movie.

[11:03] This is Dolittle.

[11:04] Dr. Dolittle has Eddie Murphy in it, right?

[11:06] There's two previous Dr. Dolittle movies.

[11:07] Or Rex Harrison, depending on...

[11:09] The Rex Harrison movie

[11:10] from the late 60s,

[11:11] which in the great book

[11:13] Pictures at a Revolution

[11:14] and in the great book The Studio,

[11:15] they talk about, respectively,

[11:17] its Oscar campaign

[11:18] and the making of.

[11:19] I should have named the books in the reverse order.

[11:22] And it was one of these,

[11:23] it was kind of one of the last gasps of this studio system

[11:25] where they were like,

[11:26] we're going to make real big budget family-friendly musicals

[11:29] and then we're going to force the Oscars to nominate them.

[11:32] And then there was the Dr. Doolittle with Eddie Murphy

[11:35] where it's pretty much just the name

[11:37] and the fact that he can talk to animals.

[11:38] I think that's the,

[11:38] because he's not,

[11:39] in the books he's not really a doctor, is he?

[11:41] I can't remember.

[11:42] Well, he's a veterinarian.

[11:44] Oh, so like,

[11:45] but he's not like a people doctor.

[11:47] Right, whereas I believe in,

[11:49] The Eddie Murphy movie, as in this, he's like a surgeon.

[11:53] He's like a human surgeon who has long repressed his ability to speak to animals.

[11:59] He's ignored it his whole life until now.

[12:02] That's the other thing.

[12:03] In the Doolittle books, and in this one, it's a skill you can learn.

[12:06] Anyone who pays close enough attention to animals learn to talk.

[12:08] But in Dr. Doolittle, it's like more of a drop-dead-Fred type ability.

[12:12] Now, hold on.

[12:13] I'm going back to the first book just to get a little context.

[12:16] He is a respected physician and a quiet bachelor living with his spinster sister, Sarah, in the small English village of Puddleby-on-the-Marsh.

[12:27] Okay.

[12:27] See, I thought he was like a doctor of literature or something like that.

[12:30] It says John Doolittle, M.D. here.

[12:34] Wow, okay.

[12:35] I mean, I'm kind of surprised they didn't name this movie John Doodle, M.D. and make it like a gritty reboot of the Dr. Doodle story.

[12:42] Yeah, where he's like...

[12:43] M.D. stands for Massive Ding Dong.

[12:46] I mean, that would be kind of gritty, I guess.

[12:49] I mean, if you say anything, it sounds pretty gritty in my cool, gritty voice.

[12:54] I'm a doctor of penis having.

[12:55] So let's get into this.

[12:58] So this is the newest version of Doolittle, and they make a few strange decisions with the story.

[13:03] And the performers make some very strange decisions with their performances.

[13:08] And, well, let's get into it, because it's kind of all over the place.

[13:12] We begin, as most great movies do, with a prologue that explains who all the characters are and all their backstory so that later when the other characters are piecing together the clues of why Dr. Doolittle has secluded himself from humanity, we the audience already know all of this, and it is boring.

[13:29] This is, though, the best part of the movie.

[13:31] It's this animated prologue that looks beautiful where they explain it's narrated by Emma Thompson, who, of course, throughout the movie is a parrot, where it talks about how Dr. Doolittle, he was a famous doctor who could talk to animals.

[13:43] He had an explorer girlfriend named Lily, and she's kind of like a, I don't know, what would you call, like a cutthroat island Geena Davis type, you know, based on the way she dresses.

[13:54] Like kind of a lady pirate buccaneer explorer.

[13:59] they marry. Unfortunately, she

[14:01] dies at sea. Ooh, shades of frozen

[14:03] there. And he becomes a recluse

[14:05] with his animals in a sort of

[14:07] Tim Burton-esque wonder emporium

[14:09] of a house that has some

[14:11] steampunk conveyor belts

[14:13] and things like that. And it made me realize...

[14:16] And it's like semi-rotoscope,

[14:17] so it's kind of a good introduction

[14:19] for your kid before you show them

[14:21] a scanner darkly, for instance.

[14:22] Yes, thank you. Finally, good.

[14:24] The computerized rotoscoping and the presence

[14:27] of Robert Downey Jr. together

[14:29] make it impossible

[14:29] to not think of

[14:30] Scanner Darkly.

[14:31] It is.

[14:32] I was talking recently

[14:33] to my wife

[14:33] about Scanner Darkly

[14:34] and how Robert Downey Jr.'s

[14:36] performance in that

[14:37] is so good

[14:38] and part of it is because

[14:39] he's so great

[14:40] and it was at a time

[14:41] when he was coming back

[14:42] from rock bottom

[14:43] and so he is not

[14:44] automatically the coolest,

[14:45] hippest dude in the world.

[14:47] He's not Iron Man in it

[14:48] and I was like,

[14:48] oh, I forgot he can play

[14:50] characters other than Iron Man

[14:51] and he's so good in it.

[14:52] That whole phase

[14:54] of his career

[14:54] sort of like starting

[14:55] with The Singing Detective

[14:56] and up to iron man like when it's it was basically just i don't know it's like when some basketball

[15:02] player like you know tears their achilles and they're gone for a while and then they come back

[15:06] and you're like oh like right this guy is incredible like we've he's just been untapped

[15:11] for like 10 years i would call it the he was iron man yeah i would call it the proving they should

[15:17] insure me for the production period of a career but like kiss kiss bang bang good night good luck

[15:22] um you know scanner darkly zodiac right like that whole run pre-iron man is is very exciting

[15:29] he's so good in zodiac and then he makes iron man and he's great as iron man but it's like now

[15:33] it's just it's iron man is to him kind of what jack sparrow is to johnny depp where people are

[15:37] like oh we love this performance do just that from now on it's so funny that you bring up jack

[15:43] sparrow because uh robert downey jr's accent in this movie too little makes me yearn for the

[15:49] careful annunciation of Captain Shaq Sparrow.

[15:52] And this is one of the major performance problems.

[15:56] And we get to it when it's more important, I guess.

[15:58] But Robert Downey Jr. has made the decision to,

[16:00] one, put on kind of a strange Welsh-y type accent,

[16:02] and two, do every line in a hushed, whispery tone,

[16:05] even when he's irritated.

[16:06] So instead of being like, animals, leave me alone,

[16:09] he's like, animals, leave me alone?

[16:10] And it was like, why does it always sound like

[16:14] Shrek is whispering at me?

[16:15] I don't understand.

[16:16] Shrek's ASMR tape.

[16:19] So first, though, we meet Stubbins, a little boy who also loves animals, even though his

[16:24] dad just wants him to hunt all the time.

[16:26] Stubbins is what I ended up realizing is a totally unnecessary character, as we'll find

[16:31] out.

[16:31] He accidentally shoots a squirrel, and rather than put the CGI squirrel out of its misery

[16:35] like his heartless dad does, he instead follows Doolittle's parrot Polly, Emma Thompson, who

[16:40] appears out of nowhere as if like Mary Poppins or Nanny McPhee, a magical being, and leads

[16:46] him to Doolittle's estate, which is full of CGI

[16:48] animals. And Stubbins, I gotta tell you,

[16:51] doesn't seem particularly amazed

[16:52] to suddenly see elephants and giraffes

[16:54] wandering around an English estate. He takes it

[16:56] pretty much in stride. The way you would take, like,

[16:58] he reacted to it the way I would

[17:00] like you see a busker on the street in

[17:02] New York, where for an instant it distracts

[17:04] your attention, and then you're like, hmm, not interested

[17:06] in that, and you turn your head away.

[17:08] So, uh, he gets caught

[17:10] in, yeah? He does shriek

[17:12] at the presence of a gorilla.

[17:14] Yes. Well, who would

[17:16] he has a high-pitched shriek uh and he gets caught in a net uh because they are there's a

[17:24] trap there i guess for i don't know poachers or somebody okay do little now we finally get to

[17:30] really meet him he is recluse bearded and his animals help him get dressed in a kind of weird

[17:34] take on the scene and in uh was it snow white or cinderella where the animals help her dress or

[17:39] both i think possibly sleeping beauty but also maybe all of those look disney princesses cannot

[17:46] get dressed without the help of animals we know that yeah it was like a little bit of uh like

[17:50] peewee's big adventure thrown in there yeah well that's the thing it made me realize so in peewee's

[17:55] big adventure i remember as a kid seeing that sequence where his breakfast gets made by his

[17:59] weirdo machines and thinking it was so amazing and so funny goldberg is listening to our podcast

[18:04] is so mad you just called them weirdo machines it's like say my name asshole say my name

[18:10] i had one legacy this is the one thing i'm remembered for please as a fellow jew remember

[18:17] me and i'm like hey buddy i'll put a stone in your grave but like leave me alone so not my

[18:21] appearance in arts and models so but that i don't think i've seen ever since then like a kind of

[18:28] steampunky clockwork rube goldberg thing that has captured that level of magic and why do you think

[18:33] that is i was curious why you guys think that this unless this this really hit you with a sense of

[18:37] wonder and possibility this sequence well i mean the peewee thing is actually like you think of

[18:43] that as like kind of a frantic movie in certain ways but you it takes it slow you you watch every

[18:49] individual thing happen and you're amazing like there's a there's a physicality to everything

[18:55] that happens like it feels like that is an actual machine rather than some cgi creation because they

[19:00] didn't use cgi and also like it leads up to the joke where peewee eats an incredibly small amount

[19:07] of breakfast before and then wipes his mouth with the napkin very daintily when i was a kid

[19:12] my sister and i that's all we would do after we ate was we would just take napkins and

[19:15] lightly dab the corners of our mouths like he does and we'd leave all this food on our face

[19:20] it also like it reflects his personality right it's like silly and overly busy and like you know

[19:27] like he's he's very invested in it and it's funny whereas like i feel like doolittle is uh not even

[19:34] he's so laconic and uninterested in his magical house full of magical animals like

[19:39] it seems like these things are happening to him yeah and we talked about his dead wife before but

[19:45] i do think that i want to take a moment and talk about how like so this is why he's withdrawn from

[19:50] the world and i do not understand this need for movies to give these kind of magical characters

[19:58] tragic backstories like if you think about say willy wonka right like uh charlie and the chocolate

[20:06] factory like willy wonka doesn't have the arc there like charlie has what the closest thing

[20:12] to an arc in that movie willy wonka is just this magical pixie who is himself and doesn't need to

[20:19] have a reason to be that way and and like i feel like doolittle like it should be the same thing

[20:26] like dr doolittle is dr doolittle no need to be like oh he has a dead wife and that's motivating

[20:32] the action of this movie to some degree well dan i was reading variety the other day and there was

[20:37] this article saying how studios have all these fridges lying around and you just gotta throw

[20:41] these wives in them yeah they're losing money on those fridges if they don't put wives girlfriends

[20:45] and assorted parents in there.

[20:47] And also, remember, Tim Burton perverted that

[20:51] by giving Willy Wonka a tragic backstory,

[20:53] which was sort of an odd decision in its own right.

[20:56] I mean, it wasn't that tragic.

[20:57] It was just that his dad didn't let him eat candy, right?

[20:59] Yes, exactly.

[21:01] But it was the...

[21:02] Like, look, I have a weird...

[21:05] I'm a weird defender of that movie.

[21:07] I think it's a bad choice that Johnny Depp is making.

[21:09] But otherwise, it's a pretty good adaptation of the book,

[21:13] except for they shove in this dentist shit.

[21:15] in the middle why do you think it's a bad choice for Johnny Depp to me uh I think it's a little

[21:21] too creepy like I think that Willy Wonka is should be this character who makes candy but his

[21:29] relationship to kids is uh hard to pin down you know but like I mean I feel like that's what you

[21:36] got in that movie I think I I admire that in a world where uh Gene Wilder's Willy Wonka already

[21:41] exists there's no reason to do that Willy Wonka again because it's perfect but the uh that like

[21:47] he was like there's a lot of shit in that movie that's not Gene Wilder that's not very good no

[21:52] but I'm just talking about Gene Wilder's amazing I'm just talking about Gene Wilder's performance

[21:56] okay just Gene Wilder's performance is perfect in that and I think it's a valid choice for Johnny

[22:00] Depp to be like who's a recluse who lives in an amusement park and wants kids around Michael

[22:05] Jackson I'll make the character like Michael Jackson and I think that's it's a it's a valid

[22:11] choice for that character even if it doesn't totally work ultimately as an entertaining thing

[22:15] to watch yes um i think the dead wife i mean everything about this movie is a little shrouded

[22:23] in mystery because it was reshot and i'm sure we'll all talk about you know but steven gagan i

[22:27] think you know who is a bizarre choice to make a dr doula movie he's probably the one who's coming

[22:31] in and it's like this should have pathos this should be about trauma and working things out

[22:37] he should be more of a brain doctor than a body doctor like that everything seems to stem from

[22:43] that all these weird dark decisions i think that's probably part of it well there's only three types

[22:48] of ways to adapt old stories now you can either do a prequel that explains how he became dr doolittle

[22:53] and it's all about him learning how to talk to animals you do a gritty reboot like we talked

[22:57] about john doolittle md where he's talking about what a massive ding dong he's got and

[23:01] someone's killing the animals of london and he has to like find the jack the ripper of animals

[23:07] Or you do it like this

[23:09] Where it's like

[23:09] Remember the Doolittle stories from before

[23:12] And he lived happily ever after

[23:13] Well whoever told you that must have lied

[23:15] Because Doolittle's got some sad stuff too

[23:17] But now he's gonna come back

[23:19] Where it's the kid rediscovered

[23:20] Where it's like the return to Oz of Doolittle's

[23:24] Like that's the only other way to do it

[23:26] And they chose the one they wanted

[23:27] And of those three

[23:28] It works the most for me I guess

[23:31] Elliot

[23:31] You could do it the way

[23:35] that i think they're oh no sam you can do it i'm just saying now those are the three studio

[23:40] approved ways to adapt a story prequel do it dark reboot or it's 20 years later and somebody's got

[23:46] to shake them out of their doldrums well i guess this isn't an american movie but you can do it

[23:51] the paddington way which i think at the at this film's best moments is what it's trying to shoot

[23:57] for honestly and and not really doing it but like just just just fucking accept the book for what

[24:04] it is except the vibe of it like um not you know explain why there's this bear from darkest peru

[24:12] who likes marmalade and wants to go to london too much just have that be who that is and have dr

[24:18] doolittle be a guy who loves animals and see adventures because here's i haven't seen the

[24:22] movies but here's the way i would have done it so you start in peru and it starts with paddington's

[24:28] grandfather you should really watch the paint and you wouldn't enjoy the painting i will you're

[24:32] Right, I've got lots of time on my hands, and I'll watch.

[24:34] Actually, every time I speak just watching him to Sammy,

[24:36] he thinks they're going to be scary, so he doesn't want to watch them.

[24:38] I will say, honestly, for me, the first one is good,

[24:41] but I kind of got bored.

[24:41] The second one is amazing.

[24:43] So here's how I would do it.

[24:44] Darkest Peru, it's 30 years ago.

[24:46] An old bear shows up and tells a young bear,

[24:49] there's a prophecy.

[24:51] Okay.

[24:52] Your grandson, your grandson will be the chosen bear,

[24:57] and his name shall be Pa-ding-tun.

[25:02] and so then you cut flash forward to I'm walking on sunshine and Paddington is just kind of like

[25:09] in Peru loving life just being like hey buddy hey look over there and you just hear the voiceover

[25:13] now it's just Sonic at this point where he's like hey I'm having a great cool life but uh-oh what's

[25:18] happening now let me rewind a little bit and you see how his family like so the movie would

[25:24] end with him getting to London because that sets up the PCU the Paddington Cinematic Universe

[25:29] and that's and the next one is pat the rise of paddington and that's how he like meets the family

[25:34] and the last jeremy piven yeah yes of course and the last one is called uh aftermath paddington

[25:40] aftermath or like uh or dawn of the rise of paddington and that's the one where he loses

[25:44] the family but he becomes the hero that they all need him to be so that's padding now wait hold on

[25:48] i have a very important question for david uh what is it like being on this podcast and sort of like

[25:54] having to endure

[25:57] a griffin let's say

[25:59] but like one that you don't have years

[26:01] of friendship and history

[26:03] with. You're thinking about this all

[26:05] wrong. I'm just like oh

[26:07] someone else can handle anything

[26:09] else. I'm just here to like float

[26:11] and have fun and occasionally

[26:12] object to silliness. You don't have to drive

[26:15] the car. Exactly. I don't have to try

[26:17] and keep trains on time like I do on

[26:19] my show. I'm just here

[26:20] listening, laughing. It's great.

[26:23] It's the thing that my friend said to me once.

[26:25] I was like, would you babysit for us?

[26:27] She's like, yeah, I love babysitting.

[26:28] Because the kids start crying.

[26:29] I know, I'm going home at the end of the night.

[26:31] It's like, oh, yeah.

[26:32] That's basically my approach to bartending, by the way.

[26:36] Doolittle is playing chess with his gorilla, who is voiced by Rami Malek.

[26:41] Yes, yes.

[26:42] In another Oscar-worthy performance.

[26:45] And who has the great catchphrase, I am not a prisoner of fear.

[26:49] Yeah. And for some reason, Rami Malek misunderstands what he's being told and shows his butt to Dr. Doolittle while they're playing chess.

[26:56] But ironically, a man who won an Oscar for lip syncing is now doing just the voice while a gorilla lip syncs. Amazing.

[27:04] There are a lot of really good talented actors in this that are for some reason chosen to do the voices for cartoon animals and have been directed to deliver the lines as if they are people who are standing in a booth trying to get their lines done in time to get out so they don't have to be paid overtime.

[27:20] And it's one of these movies where it really hit me how much they needed cartoon voice actors to do the voices for these animals.

[27:26] Like as much as I want – who was it who does the voice of the duck?

[27:30] Octavia Spencer.

[27:31] As much as I want Octavia Spencer to get a paycheck, because she's great.

[27:36] She's not my go-to person for the voice of a funny duck character.

[27:39] But anyway.

[27:40] Or like, and they had Ralph Innocent playing the human father of the kid.

[27:47] Like, that's money on the table, dude.

[27:48] He's got a great voice.

[27:49] He's got a great voice.

[27:50] That's like a perfect, like, you cast John Cena to do the voice of a bear.

[27:55] He's completely hairless.

[27:56] He's not a bear.

[27:57] Get a hairy guy to do it.

[27:59] Get the late Robin Williams to do it.

[28:01] A man covered in hair.

[28:02] And the other thing which we soon learn is that this movie takes place during the reign of Queen Victoria.

[28:08] And the humans all speak in a sort of antique Victorian way.

[28:13] But all the animals speak in normal modern slang to the point where an octopus later tells Dr. Dolittle snitches get stitches.

[28:21] And the polar bear is like, hey, bro, yeah, you did it.

[28:24] Awesome.

[28:24] And it's like I don't – so animals – so much as you watch –

[28:28] When I recently watched Paris is Burning for the first time and I was like, oh, all of our slang comes from drag culture of the 1980s.

[28:34] I didn't realize all of our slang even further comes from animal culture of the 1880s.

[28:39] Guys, we've been stealing from the animals.

[28:41] I got to say, like, I don't understand the problem, Elliot.

[28:43] I don't know why you would expect animals, you know, dialects to have evolved in the same way that humans talk.

[28:51] That's a good point.

[28:52] They have this whole separate idiom, you know?

[28:55] That involves, like, what almost, like, I kept waiting for a pop culture reference to now, and it never quite got that far, but they got pretty close, I think.

[29:03] Yeah.

[29:03] Guys, I have a serious question.

[29:05] Now, I may have missed this, but they explain that the humans can, like, if they spend enough time around these animals and they study hard, they can learn how to speak animal language.

[29:16] Yes.

[29:17] Do they explain how all the animals can talk with each other?

[29:20] Well, they all speak Galactic Basic.

[29:23] Yeah.

[29:24] But they specify that different animals speak different languages.

[29:27] Yeah.

[29:28] That's true.

[29:29] But at the same time, it's like he only has to pick up one thing, which doesn't make any sense.

[29:34] But you know what I mean?

[29:35] Like when the kid is describing how he's learning all of the little idiosyncrasies.

[29:42] I mean, I prefer the Eddie Murphy, look, he's touched by an angel.

[29:46] Like, that's better.

[29:47] I mean, the best version of it is when we, years ago, we did Zookeeper with the King of Queens.

[29:54] and he gets hit on the head

[29:56] and I was like oh he's going to get hit on the head and it's going to

[29:58] give him the ability to talk to animals and the animals were like

[30:00] no we can always talk we just don't like doing it around

[30:02] people and I was like why don't you talk

[30:04] to people and tell them not to eat you and kill you

[30:06] wait so they just

[30:08] hit him on the head just to hit him on the head

[30:10] no no he has he has an accident and it gets

[30:12] hit on the head and then the animals are like crowded

[30:14] around him and I think it's the lion voiced

[30:16] by I believe Sly Stallone who says

[30:18] yeah we just don't talk around people because it

[30:20] freaks him out and it's like but you have

[30:22] you've been imprisoned

[30:23] you know

[30:24] tell them

[30:26] you don't shouldn't be there

[30:27] the reason it freaks them out

[30:28] is you haven't been doing it

[30:30] like

[30:30] if you did it all the time

[30:31] like it would just be part of

[30:33] the fabric of life

[30:34] yeah but they know

[30:35] it would just

[30:35] destabilize society

[30:37] too much at this point

[30:38] it's just awkward

[30:38] at this point

[30:39] I mean the society

[30:40] that treats their lives

[30:41] as playthings and food

[30:42] again

[30:43] they have nothing

[30:44] to lose from this

[30:45] except their chains

[30:46] so Stubbins

[30:48] the boy we mentioned before

[30:49] he meets Lady Rose

[30:50] an emissary from the Queen

[30:51] the character who i believe should be in the stubbins role because stubbins is going to go

[30:56] on a quest with dr doolittle and become his apprentice and this lady rose character basically

[31:01] just shows up to say the queen's in trouble and then doesn't get to go on the adventure and how

[31:05] much better would this movie have been if it was like a man and like a sassy little girl or at

[31:09] least a brave little girl rather than a man and like stubbins who all due respect to the kid

[31:14] playing him has no personality whatsoever you know um they also meet the scaredy cat gorilla

[31:20] whose name is chichi i assume after the restaurant chain of the same name or maybe he grew up to

[31:26] found that chain i don't know yep anyway let's get to the plot shall we the queen is sick do

[31:32] little's like i don't care but after saving stubbins's squirrel from an operation the

[31:36] squirrel vows revenge on stubbins uh which something which never pays off in any way

[31:40] whatsoever uh i gotta say though the squirrel is craig robinson like i laughed at a few of his

[31:47] uh lines like later on he's yeah later on he's like like day 24 i don't know why i'm still

[31:54] following these lunatics right the thing is everyone is giving the vocal performance of

[32:00] okay i'll do a weekend in a booth for you robert like sure you'll owe me you know you'll owe me a

[32:05] favor but if you know if you have a comedian like kamail nanjiani craig robinson at least they'll

[32:10] be funny it's the it's the people like john cena or rami malek where you're like what is it you're

[32:15] looking for like you're not going to get pathos from rami ma like i don't know it's it's the it's

[32:20] the same problem that uh the movie ferdinand had i know all you guys also talk took your sons to

[32:25] see ferdinand uh during the coldest winter in new york history uh but the or you know in the last

[32:30] hundred years i took my son to see ferdinand and i was like this is not a bad movie but the voices

[32:35] are so flat i mean part of it is that they had um oh what's that football player's name who's in it

[32:41] peyton manning i believe manning i mean like don't cast peyton manning as a voice in your

[32:45] in your funny animal movie but like the voices the delivery was so flat that even like um

[32:49] i remember i'm mr i'm forgetting every single name in the world uh from saturnette live and

[32:54] ghostbusters and uh kate mckinnon like even her like the the reads were kind of off and it was

[33:00] like i don't know what's going on with voice directing these days that uh but also i mean

[33:04] the problem is as billy west would rail against if he were here like they're employing you know

[33:09] celebrities to do voices when that's not necessarily their strong point like there

[33:13] are actors who do this all the time and are very good at it you know they have nice faces that i

[33:19] like to look at that's sort of a whole deal of being a famous actor well that's the funny that's

[33:24] like uh i thought it's such a funny thing that when an animated movie goes overseas the actors

[33:29] from the american dub do press overseas so like when madagascar was in other countries like ben

[33:35] stiller and everybody would go do press there even though their voices were not even in the movie

[33:39] so it's like because they dub it with a local language actor so it was like hey so uh here's

[33:45] this movie i'm in it except i'm not really in it because you're not going to see me or hear me but

[33:48] i'm famous so ask me some questions about it griffin i'm sorry but i haven't griffin told a

[33:53] story about jesse eisenberg i think getting a call from his agent being told like hey rio

[33:58] is like the biggest movie in brazil like it's huge rio and jesse eisenberg had to be like i

[34:04] i had nothing to do i'm not involved in the brazilian version of rio you don't need to call

[34:09] me i mean and also for a movie called rio to be a big hit in brazil is like i mean come on if it's

[34:15] not you screwed something up come on yeah and there's i don't know if it's like a sound design

[34:20] thing or maybe it's just the maybe it's just the voice acting or direction but like i had a lot of

[34:25] trouble telling where any voice was coming from like i had it just it all was just this mishmash

[34:32] where i could never tell if like a character was on the other side of the room well i don't know

[34:38] whether this is related or not but like the the famous story about this is that like steven gagan

[34:43] is the original director of this after there before there were reshoots did not have it planned

[34:50] out where the animals would be on screen which is crazy a crazy way to do a movie with cgi animals

[34:56] And so a lot of it is 80-yard, like, a lot of it is, like, jerry-rigged after the fact.

[35:02] Yeah, Kagan was just like, we'll figure it out.

[35:04] Like, he did not get, I think, that you need to plan, pre-vis all this crap in advance.

[35:09] Because there's a fair amount of, like, ostriches running by in the background with their heads off camera while they say a line.

[35:14] And it's like, yeah, okay, I guess they just stuck that in because they had a line from the ostrich and he wasn't in the scene at the moment.

[35:20] So they had to have him run by in the background and say it.

[35:23] they're gonna go they have to go save the queen because here's the thing the queen gave dr do

[35:29] little the the lease for this house but if she dies he's gonna lose the house and the animals

[35:34] are gonna have to go to the zoo and the animals shave him so they can go uh we're introduced the

[35:39] other animals they're dab dab the duck uh octavia spencer there's plimpton the ostrich who's camille

[35:43] nanjiani channing tatum as the polar bear whose name i forgot and stubbins kind of stows away in

[35:48] their trunk meanwhile back at buckingham palace the evil doctor mudfly played by michael sheen

[35:54] is leeching the queen to ensure that she dies uh-oh there's some nefarious doings about but

[36:00] luckily gyps the dog uh smells something suspicious and then the queen's octopus after

[36:06] telling do little snitches get stitches uh tells them it's poison it turns out the only cure is

[36:12] the fruit from the eden tree the very tree of legend that doolittle's wife was looking for

[36:17] when she died in a storm right and and and like doolittle explains it he's like oh it's like from

[36:25] a tree no one has seen on an island no one knows exists on like like he does like this whole thing

[36:30] and i'm like well then how like how do you know about this island like is it supposed to be like

[36:36] the tree of life like is that the idea i have to assume so yeah yeah i feel like that must have

[36:41] been an idea that must have been an idea in the movie at some point that was either elided or

[36:47] changed but also they say like it can cure anything and gives eternal life but that's not

[36:51] what the fruit from the tree in eden did like the tree in eden the fruit gave you the knowledge of

[36:55] good and evil yeah uh which is the queen i assume already knows good and evil or she shouldn't be

[37:00] in charge of a country uh so you're saying being nude is evil elliot uh so i i have to say i was

[37:09] expecting do little to have to go get in a riddle contest with wotan in order to get this fruit but

[37:16] i guess i was disappointed there's no mythological happenings at all in the rest of this movie

[37:21] right no well we'll see perhaps there's a mythological animal later on uh stubbins he

[37:27] sneaks along as a do little's apprentice on this journey there's a brief giraffe chase

[37:31] where a french dog right or fox or something is riding a giraffe and yes that is marianne

[37:37] cotillard it's one of those at the end of credits like marion cotillard and i was like not only do

[37:41] i not know why marion cotillard was it was chosen i don't know why that character was in the movie

[37:45] because all she does is she just has that one scene with the giraffe right where i assume she's

[37:49] the giraffe's like lover and that's why she's riding on the back with stubbins like it doesn't

[37:53] make any sense and the giraffe was selena gomez right uh yes the giraffe is selena gomez i just

[38:01] have to imagine there's a whole like rosencrantz and guildenstern plot with them that they had to

[38:06] cut i why else would you bring in academy award winner marion cotillard because it's named tutu

[38:12] for all those kids who loved lovey and rose and want to see her in more of their movies

[38:17] it involves them jumping onto doolittle's bridge boat from a bridge uh it's all very unnecessary

[38:23] uh and holly the parrot emma thompson tells doolittle you need a human around you to remind

[38:29] you that you're human uh meanwhile this evil aristocrat played by jim broadbent wants to kill

[38:34] the queen and take the throne i don't know if he really understands how monarchy works

[38:38] if the queen dies it's not going to be this random chamberlain dude who becomes the king

[38:43] like that seems like pretty basic kind of a military coup is what he's planning i'm not

[38:49] really sure well i mean what you know to weigh in with my knowledge of british history if this

[38:54] is young victoria wait david did you live in england or is that i did live in oh you lived

[39:00] in England she grew up in England interesting oh yes yes and that's that's something that's normal

[39:04] and well known about me and it's regular news um if Queen Victoria I mean how old is she supposed

[39:10] to be right she's in her 30s this is young Victoria this is young Victoria yeah um you know

[39:15] so her kid would be like 10 years old if not you know so maybe maybe he's looking for a regency you

[39:22] know he wants to like sit on the throne while there's a child king maybe but it's like I don't

[39:27] know if victoria had any siblings but usually the younger sibling would then no no because i don't

[39:31] know that she had any children no it goes kids first then siblings i don't know that expert in

[39:36] royal primogeniture but i don't know that she had any kids at that point okay stew stew i'm gonna

[39:40] need you to use your famous research skills to look up how old queen victoria was during the

[39:45] events of this movie which is based on true fact i mean it was just it was just so strange to me

[39:51] to see queen victoria presented as a young woman when in my mind she is a she's a stout dowdy old

[39:56] lady who says we are not amused to sherlock holmes so i'm uh i just i plugged that into the search

[40:03] bar in the metal archives no results okay disappointing especially since since britain

[40:11] has such a strong presence on the metal scene yeah you would think uh so and jim broadbent you

[40:17] know i've seen him play bigger crazier characters but you know it's fun to see him uh and he's got

[40:23] uh he's got michael sheen delivering his best like john hodgman style character as uh an evil

[40:29] doctor general right yeah yeah and i so my and michael sheen dr mudfly is of is obsessed with

[40:36] how dr doolittle always got everything he wanted and everyone thinks he's so great but he's so

[40:41] crazy and dr mudfly is gonna get it and dr mudfly seems to keep forgetting that dr doolittle lost

[40:46] his wife to a shipwreck and has lived as a recluse for years so he's like at the end of the movie

[40:51] He's like, Dr. Doolittle, now you're going to see what it's like to not get what you want for a change.

[40:55] And it's like, he's a widower.

[40:56] Come on, man.

[40:57] He's a widower.

[40:58] And also, you are doctor to the queen.

[41:00] Like, have you not ascended to your highest honors?

[41:03] Like, what more could you be?

[41:06] Maybe he just always wanted a pet gorilla.

[41:08] I don't know.

[41:09] That said, Michael Sheen is one of the best things about this movie.

[41:13] I feel like even in our views at the time.

[41:16] Michael Sheen is acting in the movie that this wants to be.

[41:20] because look guys i'll put some of my cards on the table i did not find this to be as disastrous

[41:24] a movie as i had been led to believe partly because it looks beautiful it's bright and

[41:29] colorful it's not grim and gray and beige and brown everywhere and like black and white and

[41:35] with no colors but it's like it wants to be this like cartoony or it should be this cartoony romp

[41:39] like you're saying dan but instead it's like it's weighted down by all these elements that don't

[41:44] really fit into that so by the time they are like literally running from barbary coast pirates

[41:50] uh it's like why is this boring like i don't understand why they're in a they're in a pirate

[41:55] they're on a pirate island fighting a tiger and it's boring for some reason um i will say i watched

[42:01] this film again thanks guys um thank you for putting the work in i appreciate it um even dan

[42:08] doesn't always do that right i rented it on itunes and i just got an alert from itunes that my rental

[42:12] period's almost up so you know obviously i gotta keep an eye on that but uh and on my tv i did not

[42:19] think i think this is a quite bad movie but it's pretty easy to ignore like you can just kind of

[42:24] like have it on and like oh what's okay antics okay yeah the animals are making jokes seeing

[42:29] this in a theater you really it really felt like being imprisoned with it like and and really it

[42:35] really like when you're really locked in with it really highlights how bizarre some of the

[42:40] editing and some of the sort of story uh smoothing is like it will jump from scene to scene with the

[42:46] trying to like fill in narrative gaps really

[42:49] quickly in this way where you're just

[42:51] like is an act missing like

[42:53] what happened oh that's right I forgot that like

[42:55] to mention this comes up especially with the pirate

[42:57] island where they're like we're gonna have to sneak

[42:58] into that pirate island and Polly is

[43:01] like so they did sneak into the pirate island

[43:02] and then this is what happened and it's like was

[43:05] there gonna be a scene where they snuck into the pirate island

[43:07] it feels like there's whole reels

[43:09] that they were just like I don't know they must have

[43:11] fallen off the truck who cares just put it

[43:13] out that's very interesting

[43:15] to hear that it was a different experience because uh to your point like when we were watching it

[43:20] audrey was like see this would be a perfectly fine thing to take a nap to on a sunday yeah i was i

[43:25] was i was like oh man this is gonna be disastrous and then i was like i my i briefly considered

[43:30] watching with my son and i was like i don't want to subject to it but now i'm like he could have

[43:34] watched it and it would have been fine and you know he would have i'm sure he would have enjoyed

[43:38] parts of it like this is i mean he might have been uh there there is that uh there is that like

[43:45] kind of erotic scene where antonio banderas is just languishing amidst uh beautiful tigers like

[43:52] i don't know it's pretty erotic oh the post tiger orgy scene where you know i don't know if you want

[43:57] to introduce the children to that it's a little intense i mean that the real problem is my is my

[44:02] son during the draft chase would be like what voice is that where have i heard that voice

[44:07] is that marion cotillard wait a minute hold on no it can't be and he would two days one night

[44:13] the same way that we watched big hero six uh yesterday and i hadn't seen it and i was like

[44:20] who is that voice and it bugged me the whole movie i'm like oh james cromwell that's who that voice

[44:24] is and then i said to him oh that's the farmer from babe and he was like whatever

[44:28] whatever dad anyway uh they're on so he so jim broadwind sends mudfly to go after do little to

[44:36] stop him from saving the queen at all costs do little is on the ship he's boxing the gorilla

[44:40] trying to teach it to be brave uh because you know it's a gorilla who's afraid of things it's

[44:45] hilarious uh then he hears an eerie whistle at night and remembers his wife this i don't quite

[44:51] know what they were getting at for sure here uh but it happens and there and that's when i realized

[44:57] one of the monkeys

[44:57] on the ship

[44:58] is named Elliot

[44:58] so I was like

[44:59] that's cool

[45:00] Doolittle calls a whale

[45:02] to help them

[45:03] with a warship

[45:04] that Dr. Mudfly

[45:05] is commanding

[45:06] and they tie a harness

[45:07] to the whale

[45:08] to move their ship faster

[45:10] and the warship fires

[45:11] and Chi-Chi

[45:12] the gorilla

[45:13] gets scared

[45:13] and drops Doolittle's

[45:14] scuba rope

[45:15] because he's in

[45:15] kind of like

[45:15] a steampunk scuba suit

[45:17] or you know

[45:18] one of those

[45:18] aqualung type

[45:19] bathysphere suits

[45:21] but he survives

[45:22] just fine

[45:22] thanks to Stubbins

[45:23] and they escape

[45:24] and that's when

[45:25] we really learn

[45:26] that Mudfly is obsessed

[45:27] with dr doolittle and mudfly establishes himself as the funniest character in the movie um but

[45:32] there's a lot of like a lot of mudfly just going like oh doolittle hmm and i wasn't sure if i liked

[45:37] how single-minded he is or if there were times where i was like i want to see a little more about

[45:41] what mudfly does when he's not feeling i mean there was a good gag where he was like looking

[45:45] through his uh telescope and doolittle had said something about like how he was chinless or

[45:49] something and and like way yeah that was i that was funny yeah that was funny i think that there's

[45:57] a sort of a meta funniness to it as well because it's fair for the other characters to be like why

[46:03] is there a fuss about this doolittle guy downy is barely trying like you know like art you know

[46:09] the performance is so baffling that it like i can under like sheen should probably just be dr

[46:14] doolittle he'd be a good dr doolittle he would have been a great dr doolittle like he would have

[46:18] been a fantastic dr little the fact that that uh robert jr's performance it's not just like

[46:23] do little is not just a reluctant hero he's a reluctant reluctant living being like yeah you

[46:28] expect like i don't know why this guy didn't didn't do still like just stop breathing and see

[46:34] and pass out ever over and over again just to get away from day-to-day life like he seems to hate

[46:38] just existing what i remember that's the depth comparison makes sense too where it's like i feel

[46:42] like both these stars became kind of almost hostile to their own charisma they just got sick

[46:47] of their usual thing

[46:49] and we're like well how about

[46:51] I just tie all my limbs behind my back

[46:53] and see if you know the movie's still a hit

[46:55] like how

[46:56] anti-fun can I be

[46:59] well there must be something it's similar

[47:01] to uh yeah when

[47:03] somebody is so it becomes so

[47:05] effortless to be successful that you

[47:07] try to sabotage yourself to see what

[47:09] it is or you're so worried

[47:11] I know all about that

[47:12] I'm sure the studio is like

[47:15] just do Iron Man that'll be great just be Tony

[47:17] stark and and like for whatever reason obviously he did not want to do i mean because he had just

[47:22] been tony stark in like nine movies over two decades so he's like no it was a billion dollars

[47:27] the other thing about his performance though is like just get a fucking english guy like robert

[47:33] danny jr is great but him trying to do a welsh accent like like this is this is a little better

[47:41] than his terrible english accent in the sherlock holmes movies but he's not a character guy in

[47:47] that way i don't think so why put that on him and i think michael sheen uh is he welsh yeah he is

[47:56] so like you've got a welsh guy who'd be really great at it right there but michael sheen doesn't

[48:01] open big blockbusters dan because without a big star what do you have to convince kids to go see

[48:06] a movie about a doctor who talks to animals and goes on an amazing adventure with pirates

[48:10] what possible possible reason would a kid want to see that for unless it has a big boffo box

[48:16] office name in it like channing tatum like our kids like downey jr's in it okay but who voices

[48:23] the polar bear john cena all right let's go friday night they're like is anyone from the big sick in

[48:30] it yeah they're like i'm real into alt comedy is jason manzoukas in this movie

[48:37] clearly added very late in the game yeah yeah that feels like that didn't i mean

[48:46] i was just glancing through the trivia didn't like seth rogan or somebody take a stab at a

[48:50] couple rewrites and i feel like jason manzoukas's part either got completely added or totally

[48:56] bulked out because i mean it's it's funny but it doesn't add anything to the story of the movie

[49:02] i mean he does he does wake up a tiger at one point oh that's true uh now speaking of it's

[49:07] time for the side quest that involves jason manzoukas because they can't just go go straight

[49:11] to the eden tree it's on an island that never exists that nobody has ever heard of because

[49:15] it's not real or whatever they've got to go to pirate island to steal lily's journal because

[49:20] that's the only place that says where the island is uh this island it's called uh what monteverde

[49:25] i think it's called and it's run by king antonio banderas whose character's name i don't remember

[49:30] but he is lily's father and so he's especially mad at doolittle because he blames him for not

[49:36] being there when lily died as if doolittle would have been able to save her from the shipwreck

[49:40] it's a little unclear why he thinks doolittle should have been there at the time i don't know

[49:44] Kids can tell that Antonio Banderas' character is going to be an evil king because he already has multiple statues celebrating himself before he's dead.

[49:54] And that's never a good sign.

[49:55] And kids are aware of that.

[49:56] Yeah, kids.

[49:57] I mean, kids remember their Roman history and they were like, shades of Caligula, perhaps, as they nudge each other.

[50:03] Then the tiger orgy happens and they all get it.

[50:08] Yeah.

[50:08] And then they're like, oh, this guy is super cool.

[50:11] So they team up.

[50:12] Stubbins sneaks in with the help of some mafia ants and a heartsick dragonfly.

[50:16] But accidentally, they wake up the king and his lions.

[50:20] Oh, they're lions, not tigers.

[50:22] I'm sorry.

[50:22] It's a tiger later.

[50:23] And he wakes up and he locks them all in a dungeon.

[50:26] He lets Stubbins go, but he wants Doolittle to be eaten by a tiger named Barry.

[50:31] Meanwhile, Doolittle is being taunted by a criminal rabbit who is also in jail with an eye patch.

[50:38] And it's one of those things where it's like, wait, so is this rabbit?

[50:41] like a rabbit that talks and is a criminal and commits crimes because the other animals don't

[50:45] have like the other animals the idea of locking them up in a jail cell seems crazy what was his

[50:50] beef with doolittle he seemed to have a personal which the rabbit or the tiger the rap well the

[50:56] rabbit either one of them i wasn't really clear the tiger is a former patient of doolittle's

[51:00] and for some reason doolittle abandoned him uh and his and his just his feelings of never living

[51:05] up to his mother's uh expectations for him that's the tiger the rabbit just seems to be a jerk and

[51:09] the rabbit has the line that made me wish made me glad my son didn't see the movie because it

[51:14] would become his favorite line where the tiger walks in the rabbit goes oh did doolittle do a

[51:19] little doo-doo i think you did do a little doo-doo and i was like yeah boy okay i was the thing was

[51:25] i was actively appreciating the fact that this movie didn't seem to have any toilet humor for

[51:31] a long time and then it all came at once it's backloaded yeah rushing rushing out to you like

[51:38] a blocked up dragon suddenly releasing a huge gas fart uh right in your face uh there is also

[51:44] this is the part where uh uh he's being attacked by this tiger he tries a couple different funny

[51:48] ways to stop him but he can't uh chichi the gorilla finally overcomes his fear and kicks

[51:53] barry in what barry refers to as his barry berries uh and it's almost like at this point with doodoo

[51:58] and barry berries yeah dan the movie just kind of like is like you know what we're just doing

[52:03] the toilet humor it's like the story albert brooks tells about opening for a band and not

[52:07] and he laughs and he goes so i did it i said shit and then the audience goes crazy because he starts

[52:12] swearing on stage and they love it uh they find they steal lily's journal uh but mudfly takes it

[52:19] and he's like yeah i'm a bad guy i'm gonna kill queen victoria see ya and they sink doolittle's

[52:24] boat uh and the polar bear saves the ostrich thus cementing their friendship a subplot that was not

[52:30] really set up too far ahead of time but it was set up a little bit that they had were kind of

[52:35] prickly with each other but now they're best buds um now now why why is michael sheen going to get

[52:42] the magical thing that can cure the queen if he's just trying to kill the queen to stop robert denny

[52:49] jr from getting it and maybe he's also going to be like look i made this discovery i'm famous now

[52:54] alas too late to save our beloved queen well but also they they try and explain it they they say

[53:01] that this uh island has all these like like unknown flora and fauna that like because he's

[53:08] a scientist too he will get all the glory of of of studying it i guess i wish they had gone even

[53:16] farther and made charles darwin the villain of the movie and and and martin sheen was playing

[53:21] michael sheen was playing not martin sheen or maybe martin sheen was playing i was playing

[53:25] charles darwin and it was like no if animals can talk to humans it throws my whole theory of

[53:31] evolution and natural selection out the window i have to defeat dr doolittle like that would be

[53:36] very funny to me and so he has to go and he's going to make this big scoop he's it's going to

[53:40] be a second galapagos this uh this magic island oh i'll call it on the origin of the species to

[53:46] the reorigining okay guys i think we have dr doolittle too already ready in the can uh so

[53:53] So Dr. Doolittle's ready to give up, but the pirate king, he says, hey, look, we both miss my daughter, so you need to keep going, and he gives them a ratty old pirate ship.

[54:02] They use whales to track Dr. Mudfly to eat an island, and they finally get there, and the soldiers that are with Mudfly capture them, and Mudfly's like, ha, ha, ha, I finally beat you.

[54:11] I guess not everything comes easy to Dr. Doolittle, again, as I mentioned earlier, forgetting that Dr. Doolittle is a depressed widower and has lost the single most important thing to him in the universe.

[54:22] has no will to do anything whatsoever who would have been a hermit if not for their plot to kill

[54:28] the queen yeah he's he's just scraping by at this point he almost got eaten by a tiger it's like

[54:34] it's like uh i imagine somebody being like hating franklin delano roosevelt and being like see what

[54:40] it's like to not be the golden boy who gets everything and roosevelt being like i can't walk

[54:44] like look at me dude like i i'm in a wheelchair did you forget about that uh so but then uh-oh

[54:51] there's a guardian for the eden tree it's a dragon that's right everybody someone mentioned dragons

[54:56] offhandedly once earlier in the movie that was all the foreshadowing we needed dragons the dragon

[55:01] scares the soldier away and to do little instantly picks up dragon language uh because he's just that

[55:06] good they bond over having both lost their spouses because in this world even mythological creatures

[55:12] have a certain amount of trauma and survivor's guilt yes this was exactly the end of uh of uh

[55:18] batman v superman basically where they're both like your mom was martha my mom was

[55:22] like we're both widower widows or widowers uh he uh manages and the dragon eats one of the

[55:28] british soldiers which i think is kind of a stirring commentary uh on anti-colonialism

[55:33] and yeah and apparently has a lot of the the spanish army digested in her belly there's a

[55:38] whole there's all these axes and helmets getting pulled out of her the dragon yeah has has devoured

[55:44] a lot of Spanish

[55:44] and now at least

[55:45] one British soldier

[55:46] and dragons we learn

[55:49] like snakes

[55:49] just swallow up

[55:50] the whole thing whole

[55:51] and digest what they can

[55:52] from it

[55:53] because

[55:53] guys

[55:55] it's time for the apex

[55:57] of the fart humor

[55:58] this dragon

[55:59] has a blockage

[56:00] in its rectum

[56:01] and Dr. Doolittle

[56:02] using only a leak

[56:03] because he's Welsh

[56:04] will have to

[56:05] release it

[56:06] and so he manages

[56:08] to remove all this armor

[56:08] thus freeing

[56:10] an enormous fart

[56:11] that hits him

[56:12] square in the face

[56:13] and every character

[56:14] seems to get their line

[56:15] where they talk about

[56:15] how smelly it is

[56:16] and it was like

[56:17] I get it

[56:17] just pick one

[56:18] just have one character comment

[56:20] I will make

[56:21] a not

[56:22] not full-throated

[56:23] defense of this fart joke

[56:24] because I hate

[56:25] go on

[56:26] well I don't hate fart jokes

[56:27] I don't think

[56:28] they're necessary

[56:28] in a movie like this

[56:29] Dan do you think

[56:30] your throat should be

[56:31] the part

[56:31] the orifice you're using

[56:32] to defend this

[56:33] or the passage

[56:34] in your body

[56:35] to defend this fart joke

[56:35] let me position my butt

[56:37] to the microphone

[56:38] no I

[56:39] the one thing I like

[56:41] about this fart joke

[56:42] Dan's butt sounds

[56:42] just like his regular voice yeah the one thing i liked about this fart joke is how matter of fact

[56:49] everyone was after the world the fart joke they were like they were all like oh you know it happens

[56:55] to everyone nothing to be ashamed of like everyone's like trying to make the dragon feel better about

[56:59] the giant fart i'm like oh that's kind of kind of sweet so there's a little everybody poops sort of

[57:04] uh reaction to this yeah i mean it's it's a real it's a real strong tolerance and anti-bigotry

[57:10] message that we all fart so are we really that different after all even murderous dragons who

[57:15] devour humans whole uh while protecting some kind of quasi-mystical thing fruit because then she

[57:22] says hey you have proven to me by helping me both psychologically and anally that you deserve this

[57:28] fruit and so they have the eden fruit they finally get there to buckingham palace just in time the

[57:34] queen is just on her deathbed her life meter above her head is is just blinking that last bar as it

[57:39] As it disappears.

[57:40] The sonic music is playing.

[57:42] That's where she's at.

[57:44] And Jim Broadbent has literally declared her dead at this point, too.

[57:49] Yeah.

[57:50] I mean, he jumped the gun a little bit on that one, but he had his reasons.

[57:52] The bad guy, Jim Broadbent, he tries to have them arrested.

[57:55] But the animal's clear path for Stubbins, who manages to, like, slide through someone's legs and catch the Eden fruit and squeeze a drop to her lips.

[58:03] I would have just smashed the whole thing into her mouth.

[58:05] Yeah, you would have spiked it.

[58:08] He decides to hope that this one drop makes it to her lips, but it does.

[58:12] She revives, and a stick insect, who Dr. Dolittle left on a painting there days before, rats

[58:19] out the Chamberlain, and the Chamberlain does the classic bad guy thing of, once he realizes

[58:24] they've got him dead to rights, instead of continuing to deny it, he pulls out a knife

[58:27] and tries to fight his way out, which is the guiltiest thing you can do.

[58:31] He's caught by the—because instead of being like, well, I'm the Chamberlain of London,

[58:35] And that's a stick insect that you say is talking.

[58:38] None of us can hear it.

[58:40] Like, I don't know if it's going to hold up in a court of law,

[58:42] you interpreting for a stick insect.

[58:44] And how can you trust this stick insect?

[58:46] All it did was sit around on a painting all day.

[58:48] Like, what a boring thing.

[58:50] I wish it went to trial and he was like,

[58:53] ladies and gentlemen of the jury,

[58:54] can we trust an insect that's already trying to deceive us

[58:58] into thinking it's a stick?

[58:59] I rest my case.

[59:00] Your witness.

[59:01] If Broadbent had kept his cool,

[59:04] He might have gotten away with it.

[59:05] Yeah, the prosecutor for the state is like, he just eviscerated our case.

[59:08] We've got nothing now.

[59:09] Shit, our lead witness is a bug?

[59:13] Who came up with this?

[59:14] Okay, let me bring in the next witness.

[59:20] He got stepped on.

[59:21] What?

[59:21] Yeah.

[59:22] At worst, they would cut a deal with the prosecutor in this situation.

[59:28] But the idea that everyone's like, yeah, yeah, Doolittle says this bug said that thing.

[59:32] I guess he got him.

[59:34] Doolittle takes on Stubbins as an apprentice, and he reopens his home as a pet hospital and also leaves the movie open for a sequel.

[59:42] During the credits, we see paintings that seem to depict Doolittle and some of the animals being knighted by the queen.

[59:48] So there's a Sir Doolittle and a Lady Dab-Dab, I guess.

[59:52] And there's a mid-credit scene that did not go the way I thought it was, where Dr. Mudfly is still alive in the cave.

[1:00:00] and it seems like it seems like he's picked up the language of the bats in the cave and it was like

[1:00:05] oh so he's going to come back in the sequel as a bad guy who talks to mean like evil sinister

[1:00:09] animals but then the bats it's implied i guess eat him well they turn him into morbius the living

[1:00:16] vampire i guess so they swarm all over the image they like cover him the swarm of bats

[1:00:21] in this children's film yeah presumably they eat him to the bone and uh that's and that's the end

[1:00:29] of it and i guess we'll never find out what happened to dr mudfly because i don't think

[1:00:32] there's going to be a do little two or too little i guess is what they would call it yeah i think

[1:00:36] this movie lost about 100 million dollars i don't know i don't think anyone's getting any sequels

[1:00:41] i expected a mid-credit sequence where we find that his wife is still alive just shipwrecked

[1:00:48] somewhere and i i would have been willing to even lay a bet on it but instead we get death by bat

[1:00:54] I was hoping that she was going to walk out onto a beach

[1:00:58] and be like, it's going to be carnage

[1:01:01] and we're like, oh shit

[1:01:03] if you knew the comics already

[1:01:08] that would make a lot more sense

[1:01:09] and also why Woody Harrelson is wearing that crazy

[1:01:11] Wendy from Wendy's wig

[1:01:13] it is so goofy to me

[1:01:20] to talk about Venom for a moment

[1:01:22] this is a movie that has already decided

[1:01:24] that venom a character whose sole existence is to get revenge on spider-man does not need spider-man

[1:01:29] in his story but carnage does need to have cruelly red hair because that's what it's like in the

[1:01:33] comics even though he's played by a famously bald actor like it's okay so do little dan

[1:01:42] let's do our next uh segment that ties up the movie talk about do little and that is to decide

[1:01:50] final judgments whether it's a good bad movie a bad bad movie or a movie kind of like guys

[1:01:56] i'm not gonna say it's a movie kind of like but here's the thing i come down where elliot is where

[1:02:02] he's like i thought this was going to be a fiasco and i was like you know what whatever like here's

[1:02:09] the thing i think i think that this movie is not has a lot of problems but it would not have been

[1:02:16] viewed as such a huge fiasco if it wasn't the movie that robert downey jr decided to make

[1:02:21] directly after his hugely successful run as iron man tony stark like it it it has problems but it

[1:02:31] it it's making a stab at a kind of like high adventure children's thing that i like in general

[1:02:41] Like, it doesn't have, like, the pop culture a minute references of a Sonic, and I kind of appreciate it for that.

[1:02:49] Like, if this movie was basically the same movie, but they made it animated, you know, pretty good.

[1:02:57] I don't know.

[1:02:59] I mean, no, I kind of feel the same way, and I know that there's movies that I really liked as a kid that are no better than this movie.

[1:03:07] Like, and there are movies that people I know liked a lot from when we were kids, Goonies, that I think is, this is a better movie than, come at me and hate me on the internet, guys.

[1:03:17] I think it's a better movie than Goonies.

[1:03:18] But I think it's, I think the movie, I don't know.

[1:03:23] I don't know.

[1:03:23] Actually, I'm curious, David, to hear what you're saying.

[1:03:25] Your experience of the theater was different, that you felt kind of like trapped with it.

[1:03:27] experienced in theater it's it's i will just as i was saying like there's a lot of hasty editing

[1:03:34] and sort of strain you know cuts to the animals like singles on the animals that are just sort

[1:03:39] of saying a joke that just suggests like whatever the initial concept was here it's lost like so

[1:03:44] there's instead like sort of several steps there's the you know dark you know he's a sad depressed

[1:03:51] guy and his animals are sort of depressed too and they all need to figure out how to weather

[1:03:54] their emotional pain together there's that through line but then there's also the ripping

[1:03:58] high seas adventure kids movie and then there's the sort of we got in a bunch of celebs to say

[1:04:06] funny stuff like it just feels like there's a studio movie there's the original director's

[1:04:10] movie and then there's the sort of like salvage job okay robert downey jr movie and i would take

[1:04:19] any of them and call it just a regular old bad movie that is perfectly entertaining for kids

[1:04:25] putting them all together makes makes it feel pretty like wince inducing but i i know what you

[1:04:31] guys are saying the downy the downy thing really hurt it like the sort of like oh yeah people were

[1:04:37] sort of waiting you know they were smelling blood they wanted a bomb just to ding him with yeah i

[1:04:42] kept seeing in reviews that point that dan was saying that like this is the movie that robert

[1:04:47] daniel jr decided to make as if he owed it to the world to to make he owed it to each individual

[1:04:53] reviewer to make the movie they wanted to see him make whereas like i don't know maybe he's always

[1:04:57] loved the dr doodle stories or maybe he was like i've uh like he was he i think his company made

[1:05:02] the rural juror or whatever the judge the judge yeah people want more of the judge i mean just

[1:05:10] just that like uh but it was it was one of those movies where uh i was i was just expecting i was

[1:05:16] like this i mean the trailers for it made it look like an even more of a mishmash than the movie was

[1:05:21] because the trailers were done up as if it was like a big dramatic adventure movie but then you'd

[1:05:25] have the quips from the animals but with dramatic music over them so it was like who's made this

[1:05:31] trailer what's going on but uh i found myself like kind of thinking it was going to be more

[1:05:36] of a disaster than it was stew you're the you're the tie-breaking vote here since since well that's

[1:05:41] not technically correct okay uh because yeah it's two to one right now i'm gonna be on team david

[1:05:47] here i will give this movie a b minus that's right not enough tony banderas uh a b minus still seems

[1:05:56] really generous no that's a very generous grade yeah uh i'm just joking no i didn't like this

[1:06:00] movie at all um worse than sonic the hedgehog rave stewart yeah it's i mean it's sloppy and

[1:06:06] uh like it yeah it does it like it doesn't even seem to care that it's on there on the screen

[1:06:13] it's you know it's barely a movie if you had this movie and you put jim carrey's performance from

[1:06:18] sonic the hedgehog in it as dr doolittle yeah you'd have you know i'd be like sure yeah i'll

[1:06:22] let my kids watch that any day of the week sure that's fine it would at least have a sort of

[1:06:26] consistently manic energy in that you know there's two things that i found sort of googling around

[1:06:31] One, Robert Downey Jr. decided to be Welsh because of the famous Welsh, like, neo-Druidic doctor guy from the Victorian era, William Price, is someone that Robert Downey Jr. thinks is a cool dude, I guess, or is fascinating.

[1:06:45] So he's like, that'll be my vibe.

[1:06:46] He's like an actual Dr. Doolittle, right?

[1:06:48] Right, right.

[1:06:49] And, like, that's a funny idea.

[1:06:51] Who, again, did a lot of stuff.

[1:06:52] The name is not a good name.

[1:06:53] But anyway, yeah, you're saying good.

[1:06:54] It's a funny idea, but not for this movie.

[1:06:58] like not you know it it feels like he just had sort of a fun idea that relate does not relate

[1:07:03] to a movie about a farting dragon but then the i mean i think it's a little unfair to call a movie

[1:07:08] about a farting dragon the farting dragon is in one sequence the hollywood reporter sort of quote

[1:07:12] unquote expose about like what went wrong with doolittle said that downey met up with the guy

[1:07:18] who was rewriting it tore up the scripts pages dramatically said i have some new ideas with a

[1:07:24] twinkle in his eye and propose the farting dragon conclusion so i i don't know what to believe like

[1:07:31] did he want to make a weird welsh doctor biopic or did he want to make a farting dragon movie

[1:07:35] uh i mean maybe he wasn't maybe he wasn't sure himself you know uh this movie is a little unsure

[1:07:42] of itself i would say to be a stick bug on the wall of that conversation yeah i would need robert

[1:07:48] denny jr to translate and you'd be like well you could just be saying this robert denny jr like i

[1:07:52] don't know if the stick bug really thinks that i mean this is just a guess on my part but i would

[1:07:57] assume that like yeah the goofier shit this movie was the stuff that was quote quote trying to save

[1:08:04] it right i think there was original movie right there was a fear like uh-oh this isn't gonna be

[1:08:10] a kid's movie that plays we need to juice up the jokes that makes it but i still still like it

[1:08:15] could i mean i had i if anything now i'm like it doesn't fully work at the end of the day but i

[1:08:20] like give them credit for trying to kid it up and lighten it up so that we didn't get a super dour

[1:08:26] do little movie where like his where it's somewhere like uh i'm trying to think what

[1:08:31] else would happen in it we're like he has to murder someone at the end or with a pillow he

[1:08:35] just puts a pillow over queen victoria's face and cries and says i'm sorry yeah i mean he like

[1:08:42] turns his back on humanity and the last you see of him is just naked wandering into a jungle to

[1:08:46] be with the animals i mean i'm so much of it felt like the that robert downey jr most likely came on

[1:08:54] set he had this very low energy kind of weird character that he had dreamt up and nobody want

[1:09:00] like could talk him out of it and they're just like oh fuck it okay let's just say no right like

[1:09:05] we'll shoot it and then we'll fix it um that combined with steven gagan being like yeah we

[1:09:10] can do an emotional 200 million dollar movie and because he had downey's backing he was allowed to

[1:09:16] with that caveat of like well you know what we'll just do reshoots like if it doesn't work we'll

[1:09:21] just do reshoots i mean this you can do a huge emotional blockbuster movie with robert downey

[1:09:26] jr in it it's called avengers endgame boom in theaters now actually it's not in theaters now

[1:09:31] it's been out of theaters for a while i guess and also theaters are largely closed don't go to

[1:09:36] theaters right now go again when it's time when things have opened up i guess what i'm saying is

[1:09:41] uh don't what are you what are you what you're what you're saying right now wasn't it nice when

[1:09:48] avengers again game was out and there was no pandemic and we went to see movies and robert

[1:09:52] downey jr was in them and they were nice back when he could do no wrong um so i guess dan does

[1:09:59] this fit into our rubric at all should we try to give it ratings because mine is also i i wouldn't

[1:10:03] quite call it a movie

[1:10:04] I kind of liked

[1:10:04] but I don't

[1:10:05] I don't think it's

[1:10:05] good bad or bad bad

[1:10:06] yeah same here

[1:10:08] but these guys

[1:10:08] think it's bad bad

[1:10:09] that's fine

[1:10:10] I think the bad bads

[1:10:11] have it

[1:10:12] I don't know about that

[1:10:14] I mean I would know

[1:10:15] it's right

[1:10:15] David gets extra votes

[1:10:16] yeah

[1:10:16] Hey Max Funsters

[1:10:23] it's Jesse Thorne

[1:10:24] this week on my

[1:10:25] public radio interview

[1:10:26] show Bullseye

[1:10:27] I'm talking with

[1:10:28] Tina Fey

[1:10:29] and Robert Carlock

[1:10:30] about creating

[1:10:31] Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt

[1:10:32] 30 rock and also just kind of why they're the best at everything there was a window of time

[1:10:37] when we used to go to awards things and pick up our prizes and party with the people from mad men

[1:10:43] you can find bullseye at maximumfund.org or wherever you listen to podcasts just search

[1:10:50] for bullseye with jesse thorn

[1:10:51] all right adam uh maximum fun wants us to record like a promo to tell people that they should

[1:11:05] listen to the greatest generation you want to do that no i am tired of all the extra work i just

[1:11:09] wanted to talk about star trek with my friend i think it would be good to like try and get some

[1:11:14] new listeners by appealing to the audiences of other shows like this this will only take a minute

[1:11:17] it or two it could be good for us we sit down for an hour if we can talk about a star trek episode

[1:11:22] and make a bunch of idiotic fart jokes about it it's embarrassing if it got out that we made this

[1:11:27] show i think it would make us unemployable adam i have bad news for you we have tens of thousands

[1:11:31] of listeners at maximumfund.org oh my god i think i'm gonna throw up the greatest generation a star

[1:11:38] trek podcast by a couple of guys who are a little bit embarrassed to have a star trek podcast every

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[1:12:38] uh dan i just very briefly i had a website i was actually wondering if squarespace would be able to

[1:12:43] help me with uh sure uh just ask away i was inspired by this movie uh i have an idea for

[1:12:49] website it's called www.doless.com the only website that will match you up with an animal

[1:12:55] that will do your chores for you so you don't have to do as much look we are all doing too

[1:13:00] much these days i know i'm taking care of two kids holding down a job and trying to finish

[1:13:04] jigsaw puzzle it is a nightmare if only i could hire a hedgehog to finish that jigsaw puzzle or

[1:13:09] watch my children for me welcome to do less.com the only website that matches you up with an animal

[1:13:15] that can do that stuff for you dan uh what is there anything going on in your life that you

[1:13:19] wish that like a lemur or a slow loris or a cat a cassowary to take care of yeah uh you know there's

[1:13:26] a lot of dishes that i mean you know a lot more cooking at home dishes pile up uh laundry because

[1:13:32] i'm trying to wear actual clothes every day so i don't slip into depression uh those things would

[1:13:39] be great i thought i thought it interesting that you wanted your animal to possibly do the jigsaw

[1:13:43] puzzle for you which it seems like the recreational thing that you listed dan all i'm saying is i've

[1:13:48] got too much on my plate and this animal's got to take something off my plate if that means eating

[1:13:52] my dinner for me off a plate then go ahead aardvark do it so dan i think maybe uh you're

[1:13:58] looking for like i don't know like a salamander or perhaps a uh like a mockingbird we'll do that

[1:14:04] laundry for you and let me just put that into a do less.com that's the sound it makes uh when you

[1:14:12] put it in and it looks like there are squirrels in your area that will be happy to wash your

[1:14:19] dishes for you now again do less.com let me just get the legal stuff out of the way do less.com

[1:14:23] cannot guarantee that these animals will do the job well and we are not legally liable if they

[1:14:29] break anything or soil anything in your apartment or house but look we're just a middleman we're not

[1:14:35] we're not legally liable we're just here to connect you with the animals that want to do

[1:14:39] those jobs think of it like task rabbit with actual rabbits do less.com now uh snow white

[1:14:46] not notwithstanding which i have been re-watching because uh i've been reading a a disney biography

[1:14:51] uh i don't think that squirrels have the body strength to do the things that you are assigning

[1:14:57] them i'm not assigning anyone anything dan you put i think i've written a book that can lift

[1:15:02] like 10 times their body weight yeah yeah or wait am i thinking of ants ants oh you're thinking

[1:15:07] maybe what did he say what did he say squirrels oh okay they sound alike they do sound very similar

[1:15:13] dan i'm not assigning them anything you put your job on the website animals offer to do it for you

[1:15:19] you pay them in acorns or whatever just stop putting this on me not legally liable i'm just

[1:15:26] the middleman that's do less.com okay let's move on i'm trying to promote my new website that i

[1:15:34] hope squarespace can help me with and you got to start telling me it doesn't work and you haven't

[1:15:37] even tried it yet okay i think the next the next part of this podcast is the jumbotrons that's

[1:15:42] where you tell us something to say and in this case uh what i am saying is i am a freelance

[1:15:50] graphic illustrator who specializes in fantasy and sci-fi portraits my pieces make great gifts

[1:15:56] for anyone who likes tabletop fantasy video games or their own special fandom just visit

[1:16:03] illustration.com to check out my commission work now i need to clarify the spelling of this uh

[1:16:11] This URL is I-L-L-U-S-T-R-A-T-I-A-N.com.

[1:16:19] And I just checked it out, and it's really great.

[1:16:22] And you'll see some familiar faces in the commission work,

[1:16:24] including some of our friends over at the Adventure Zone.

[1:16:26] And I'm assuming Dan gave me this jumbotron to read

[1:16:30] because out of all of us, I'm the only one

[1:16:32] who has commissioned a portrait

[1:16:33] of one of their role-playing game characters from an artist.

[1:16:36] Now, that's just a guess.

[1:16:39] I don't want to sully you guys.

[1:16:41] I don't want to paint you guys with a brush, but is that true?

[1:16:43] Have you, uh, any of your favorite role-playing game characters?

[1:16:46] Have you paid to have them drawn by an artist?

[1:16:48] Stuart, I, I have essentially one role-playing game.

[1:16:52] Okay.

[1:16:53] You know, him, the only art that's been done.

[1:16:56] I, uh, you know, it has been done by listeners.

[1:16:58] It's not, uh, yeah, I did not commission anything.

[1:17:00] I recently, I recently hired someone.

[1:17:02] Yeah.

[1:17:03] I'm just saying maybe this will give you the, uh, the opportunity to, uh, get that character

[1:17:08] drawn over at our, over at illustration.com.

[1:17:11] Okay. Well, I will not continue my story because it would have been pointless because I've got another Jumbotron.

[1:17:16] This is a message for Jen, last name withheld, and it is from Kevin, last name withheld.

[1:17:22] And the message goes like this.

[1:17:23] Happy birthday to the most amazing, sweetest, most beautiful love of my life.

[1:17:27] There's nobody I'd rather be trapped indoors with and especially nobody I'd rather be sharing the world and my life with.

[1:17:32] I love you with all of my heart and all of my other guts, too, and promise you an unlimited amount of face bonks and ghost kisses forever.

[1:17:40] So that's 4Gen from Kevin.

[1:17:41] How sweet.

[1:17:41] That's really lovely.

[1:17:42] Do you guys have any stories about love that you want to share?

[1:17:45] No.

[1:17:49] Okay, let's move on to we got one final thing to promote.

[1:17:53] Flophouse listeners, have you ever wondered what it would be like to see a live Flophouse show in your very own home

[1:17:59] and maybe the hosts haven't showered and are wearing pajamas or haven't shaved recently?

[1:18:04] I don't know.

[1:18:04] Look, there's a lot going on and we're not taking good care of ourselves.

[1:18:07] Well, here's your chance.

[1:18:08] June 6th at 9 p.m. Eastern, 6 p.m. Pacific.

[1:18:12] We are going to be doing a live over-the-computer Flophouse talking about something show.

[1:18:17] We're going to put up a link at theflophousepodcast.com where you can find out where to go to see it.

[1:18:23] We're still working out the tech details.

[1:18:24] That's right.

[1:18:24] The Flophouse boys are bringing their patented brand of don't really know what we're doing,

[1:18:29] but we're going to try it anyway to live online shows.

[1:18:32] Guys, is this going to be with like presentations before it just like a regular live show in person would have?

[1:18:37] Yeah, we're going to have our usual comedy PowerPoint presentations.

[1:18:41] I mean, this is going to be as close to a live show as we could do over Zoom.

[1:18:46] So people who have seen a live show can enjoy one from the comfort of their home.

[1:18:51] But people who don't live where we've come before, this is your chance to get that experience or close to it.

[1:18:58] Guys, are we going to talk about—

[1:19:00] Without having to commit to leaving your home to do it, now you'll realize whether or not we're just going to waste your evening.

[1:19:06] You'll know that you never have to leave your home again to see us.

[1:19:09] Guys, are we going to talk about Howard the Duck, the movie that introduced the world to the idea of ducks with boobs, which they wouldn't need because ducks don't bear live young, they lay eggs?

[1:19:18] That's correct, Elliot. Good point.

[1:19:22] And guys, are we going to do this for a charity yet to be determined because the three of us have not yet been able to agree on a charity to do it for?

[1:19:29] That is correct. It will be free to watch.

[1:19:32] However, throughout, we will be encouraging donations to charity.

[1:19:36] We will have a place to send folks, and we will have some sort of raffle associated with charity.

[1:19:42] Yes, and we're offering some kind of prizes.

[1:19:44] Like this prize I keep threatening, where we're going to set up a website called Only Dan Fans,

[1:19:49] where if you're a fan of Dan's, you can come and we'll just see pictures of Dan, maybe chat, all that kind of stuff.

[1:19:56] Oh, my son would love that. He's a big fan of Dan. Not me, though.

[1:19:59] So that's June 6th at 9 p.m. Eastern Time, 6 p.m. Pacific, and just go to theflophousepodcast.com for more information about where and how to see it.

[1:20:08] Okay, so let's move on to letters from listeners.

[1:20:14] Listeners like you.

[1:20:16] It's a long show, don't have time for a song, do little letters.

[1:20:20] This first letter is from James, last name withheld, who writes...

[1:20:25] James Corden.

[1:20:27] Elliot mentioned the lighthouse was surprisingly relatable in this time of isolations.

[1:20:32] But is it the best thing to watch?

[1:20:34] There's some things I can't go to the CDC for, so I come to you.

[1:20:38] What's the best thing to watch now?

[1:20:40] Something similarly isolating?

[1:20:42] Something totally freeing with crowds and normal life?

[1:20:45] Something that can uncomfortably enmesh itself into my now fragile psyche,

[1:20:50] sending me into a downward spiral of an unending fever dream trapped in repetition with no end in sight?

[1:20:57] I hope you can help us make sense of life in the way you always do with film.

[1:21:02] Sincerely, James, last name withheld.

[1:21:05] It's weird.

[1:21:08] I, during quarantine, have been going in two opposite directions.

[1:21:14] I have either watched things that sort of echo life as it is right now in interesting ways,

[1:21:24] or i've gone for uh total lightness i think that the one thing i can't stand right now as much as

[1:21:31] i could maybe is something that takes a lot of intellectual uh or emotional energy from me but

[1:21:38] but you know i watched yes like sorry but i watched like um a movie called uh what was it

[1:21:46] called await further instructions which is about a family trapped inside during a disaster that

[1:21:53] they know very little about and there's themes of uh scapegoating racial scapegoating like stuff

[1:21:59] there's a authoritarian but not very bright perhaps uh father character who sways people

[1:22:07] very easily like there are uncanny parallels to life right now and i in kind of enjoyed it for

[1:22:15] that in a grim way and then on the other side of things i've been watching like i don't know

[1:22:20] audrey hepburn musicals and re-watching 30 rock uh so i i think both are are good ways to go have

[1:22:27] you guys been choosing your entertainments right now uh just speaking for myself i've been watching

[1:22:33] a lot of um some light things but also and i've been watching newsies over and over again because

[1:22:39] that's what sammy wants to watch so uh if you look at the pie chart of movies watched over

[1:22:45] it's the quarantine like fully 35 percent of it is just newsies um but at the same time uh i don't

[1:22:52] know i think i'm trying to achieve a sort of normalcy by just watching the things i would

[1:22:55] normally watch you know uh during our last blood episode it i remembered that i hadn't watched a

[1:23:01] lot of japanese movies in a while and so i've been watching a bunch of japanese movies that i have on

[1:23:05] my cable box uh i've been trying to uh just kind of like make a little pocket of normal for myself

[1:23:12] where I just watched the movies that I would be watching

[1:23:14] if nothing else was going on.

[1:23:15] But that's just my one way of coping with it.

[1:23:18] Stu, David, what have you been watching?

[1:23:20] Well, I've been watching a lot of TV with Charlene.

[1:23:24] We've been doing a, well, it's a rewatch for her,

[1:23:27] but we're watching The Shield,

[1:23:29] the early 2000s FX Michael Chiklis police,

[1:23:35] I guess, procedural.

[1:23:37] And it was kind of like,

[1:23:40] it was pretty important when it was originally released

[1:23:42] and i'm assuming it was important because the fashion choices are incredible

[1:23:47] and like every other episode begins with like a sad alice in chain song uh but it's uh it's great

[1:23:55] uh i like it a lot and uh and we're punctuating that with weekly uh releases of the what we do

[1:24:02] in the shadows tv show which is the best television show currently on so watch that if you haven't

[1:24:08] Yeah, I've been all over the place. We did watch the entirety of the OC, me and my partner. So it's not like I'm not binging old TV that I enjoyed when I was young and fancy free. But I've been wavering between like watching sort of comfortable classics that I enjoy and trying to like knock off things on my criterion watch list, you know, trying to fill in gaps and take advantage of the time.

[1:24:34] i wrote a piece on the atlantic about westerns i had a whole like a couple weeks where all i

[1:24:40] watched was westerns just because i wanted stuff that was set outside like anything with like

[1:24:45] vistas and sweeping landscapes was uh was sort of doing it for me that that was probably the

[1:24:51] most fun phase so like wild wild west wild wild west and then yeah lone ranger sure i mean

[1:25:00] lone ranger maverick 11 like a lot of a lot of you know a lot of old class you know red river

[1:25:07] rio bravo things like that like just you know just fun stuff the uh i will find watching movies i'm

[1:25:16] being not triggered is the wrong word but like kind of shocked by little things that i didn't

[1:25:21] expect to like dan uh my wife and i are in the middle of watching a movie you recommended a

[1:25:26] while ago the best worst thing that ever happened right the one about uh about merrily we roll along

[1:25:31] and there's the part that's weird about seeing like a theater full of people watching a play

[1:25:36] but it's even weirder to see television news covering a play in previews that is having

[1:25:43] trouble with its production and being like oh the news used to cover stuff that wasn't like the end

[1:25:49] of the world like the news would sometimes cover that these famous people are making a play and

[1:25:54] it's a musical and it's not going great and like yeah it was just that was the most shocking thing

[1:25:59] to me uh but in a nice way i was just watching uh i was just watching that underwater movie the

[1:26:04] monster movie set underwater and uh and there's there's some stuff in it that i really like and

[1:26:10] all the interiors are great but specifically when they're like walking around in these like cool

[1:26:15] robo suits underwater uh and you're like kind of trapped inside this little shell with the actors

[1:26:21] that stuff's all really great and it was kind of more affecting for me uh but yeah and then then

[1:26:27] the movie had to we'll pull back and you'll get this big sweeping vista with marvel style chyrons

[1:26:32] and you're like oh that's not as good i enjoyed underwater i like it when a movie doesn't have

[1:26:41] a first act i'm always a fan of no first act movies yeah it throws you right in it yeah and

[1:26:46] so we're underwater oh no the whole thing exploded like that's the beginning of the movie

[1:26:51] like well like a lot of times i guess we'll introduce ourselves while we deal with this

[1:26:55] hi folks see you later well normally a movie like that would explain like oh let's spend the first

[1:27:00] third of the movie explaining why this thing is so important and uh like why it'll never

[1:27:07] how it works and right yeah uh no you just want to see it explode that's that's all i'm here for

[1:27:14] well that's what it's funny how um movies will get complimented for opposite things like i feel

[1:27:20] like i've seen so many reviews where they're like the great thing about this movie is it really

[1:27:23] takes its time and explains who the characters are before the action happens and other reviews

[1:27:27] were like the best thing about this movie is it really gets into the action right away and doesn't

[1:27:31] waste time explaining all the characters and it's like wait a minute i guess it's whether they do it

[1:27:35] well or not yeah yeah there's there's always the reviewer who's like i wish they'd spent more time

[1:27:40] explaining who the babysitter was before she died and don't tell mom the babysitter's dead well

[1:27:46] that's you've reached talked about my gritty reboot of don't tell mom the babysitter's dead

[1:27:50] when are we going to finally tell the babysitter's story so it ends with her getting to the house

[1:27:54] so you know it's like a joker style thing where the movie ends just as the character becomes

[1:27:58] remotely interesting uh so i guess yeah no i was just imagining a much like grimmer version of

[1:28:05] don't tell mom the babysitter's dead now where they like put her in one of those like those big

[1:28:11] like uh freezers in the garage and they'll like have to do all this i don't know like

[1:28:18] suspected by the murder you know yeah and the and the little and the youngest kid thinks that

[1:28:24] the body is talking to him and he's his psyche is breaking down yeah yeah babysitter the flies

[1:28:30] we call it uh this second and final letter is from i believe i'm gonna try and pronounce this

[1:28:37] Kier, I don't know, it's K-I-R-E

[1:28:40] apologies if I'm doing it wrong

[1:28:42] but

[1:28:44] Kier writes, hi

[1:28:45] I'm a Toronto filmmaker

[1:28:47] and my new feature, The Last Porno Show

[1:28:50] just premiered at the

[1:28:51] Toronto International Film Festival

[1:28:53] I just listened to your latest podcast

[1:28:55] on The Joke Thief

[1:28:57] thought it was great, a little story about

[1:28:59] The Joke Thief, apparently the script

[1:29:02] was 10 pages

[1:29:02] I mean, apparently, that makes perfect sense

[1:29:06] one of the actors told me the script consisted of a few scenes and a bunch of spots where it just

[1:29:12] said scene will be added here which i believe i've had to transcribe three of frank's scripts

[1:29:18] oh frank writes the scripts by talking into a voice recorder until he's bored and whatever he

[1:29:24] comes up with is the film there's no revisions it's fucking insane the reason uh the reason why

[1:29:30] i'm reaching out is because frank's i'm frank's second largest fan the first being himself i've

[1:29:35] been obsessed with him for years so much so that i casted him cast him in my film not only is this

[1:29:41] the first time frank has acted in someone else's film but it's the first and only time he got

[1:29:46] invited to tiff he plays a method acting teacher in my film and it's easily the best acting he's

[1:29:52] ever done aside from casting frank in my film i've had the fortune slash misfortune of helping

[1:29:57] him on his own films easily the most stressful thing i've ever put myself through i could go

[1:30:02] on for days but just to give you an idea we shot his new his two new feature films

[1:30:07] in two and a half days and one of them is a hockey film

[1:30:12] uh you know anyway uh cure promotes uh their movie uh the last porno show i can't you know

[1:30:22] speak to its quality but you know it has a couple reviews on online seems like it got pretty good

[1:30:28] reviews uh and you can see frank d'angelo in a different film not directed by himself

[1:30:34] yeah david are you uh david are you familiar with the works of frank d'angelo i i mean familiar in

[1:30:39] in that i know of i have never encountered i've never actually put myself through them

[1:30:45] do you think i should do you think it's like you know a nice quarantine project for me

[1:30:50] uh i mean the atlantic the atlantic is looking for articles right it's true i mean you know

[1:30:57] You got to make content about something.

[1:30:58] No, no.

[1:30:59] I mean, I guess you could just go to the theaters and write about what's playing there.

[1:31:02] Oh, hold on a second.

[1:31:03] Yeah, it looks like Frank D'Angelo is your new best friend.

[1:31:05] I mean, a movie called The Wretched has been the number one movie two weeks in a row at

[1:31:10] the box office.

[1:31:11] It's playing in like some drive-ins in Florida.

[1:31:13] I think No Deposit is probably worth watching, right?

[1:31:17] No Deposit.

[1:31:18] Yeah, that one's probably the best.

[1:31:19] That's probably the best one to an actual movie while still being like amusingly bad.

[1:31:27] It is a trend downward.

[1:31:29] Yeah, don't see the joke thief.

[1:31:31] And Sicilian vampire is only worth it

[1:31:34] for the scene where James Caan

[1:31:36] asks him to bite him

[1:31:37] so that he can make him into a vampire

[1:31:39] and doesn't seem to think

[1:31:40] there's anything weird about that.

[1:31:41] It does sound pretty good,

[1:31:43] but I'm seeing here that No Deposit

[1:31:45] is 80 minutes to Sicilian vampire's 124,

[1:31:49] so I think I'm going to go with No Deposit.

[1:31:52] No Deposit does have two of the best lines

[1:31:55] in cinema history,

[1:31:56] and I won't tell you what they are.

[1:31:58] Do not spoil them.

[1:31:59] Let's just say Frank Langellis,

[1:32:01] not Frank Langellis,

[1:32:01] says,

[1:32:02] Robert Loja says one of them.

[1:32:05] Yeah.

[1:32:06] Frank Langellis.

[1:32:07] Another big endorsement.

[1:32:08] If only he could have been in a Frank Langellis movie.

[1:32:09] Robert Loja's last role, right?

[1:32:12] I believe it is, yes.

[1:32:13] Frank Langellis specializes in giving famous actors

[1:32:16] their last roles.

[1:32:17] It's true.

[1:32:19] Every one of his movies doubles as a last known photo

[1:32:24] for a former Hollywood star.

[1:32:25] Yeah.

[1:32:26] Okay, so guys, time for our final segment, and that is recommendations of movies that you should watch probably instead of too little, unless, I don't know, you're like a seven-year-old, in which case you shouldn't be listening to this show.

[1:32:42] Not at all. Not at all.

[1:32:44] I'm going to recommend a movie that we watched just recently.

[1:32:50] Audrey is a big fan of Henri-Georges Clouseau, but has not seen, you know, several of the movies.

[1:32:59] And she was interested in The Wages of Fear, which is one of my favorite movies.

[1:33:04] But I was like, no, not two and a half hours of that tonight.

[1:33:07] Let's watch this movie that neither of us had seen that was 90 minutes called Le Corbeau.

[1:33:13] Oh, The Raven.

[1:33:15] The Raven, yes.

[1:33:17] and it's about um there's a doctor in a small town who becomes the target of some poison pen

[1:33:26] letters and then sort of everyone in the town becomes the target of these uh letters uh all

[1:33:32] signed by the raven and it creates chaos no one knows who it is it's um it you know uh he's talked

[1:33:43] of as the french hitchcock this movie is kind of right at the corner of hitchcock and film noir

[1:33:50] avenues with uh with a lot of frenchness thrown in and uh it's sort of a thriller sort of a just

[1:33:58] a drama about the way mobs can tear things apart and it's also um it was it was banned for a while

[1:34:07] it has like very frank talk about abortion and sex sexuality in it for a movie that was made in

[1:34:14] 1943 and i think it's kind of interesting too because uh it it feels absolutely no need to

[1:34:22] make its protagonist likable in any way which uh you know makes it very easy to sort of like

[1:34:29] suspect everyone in the film of of some sort of wrongdoing but it's it's it's you know like i

[1:34:34] said 90 minutes it's on criterion uh we liked it a lot stuart what you got oh uh i will recommend

[1:34:42] uh the recently released on hbo bad education uh starring everybody's favorite jacked man hugh

[1:34:49] jackman uh ray romano alice and jannie uh it's uh every time someone says alice and jannie i think

[1:34:58] they're going to say alice in chains every single time that experience right now um so sure look up

[1:35:05] alice and janny on your metal uh yeah metal archive let's just give me a second just known

[1:35:11] for one recording of the jackal so uh yeah it says no results um the yeah so it's uh it's the

[1:35:22] second uh it's the second movie directed by the direct uh cory finley who directed thoroughbreds

[1:35:27] um and it's this great thriller based on based on an article which is based on a true story about a

[1:35:34] what is it long island uh superintendent who had been skimming money from the district

[1:35:41] and it's this thriller about corruption that slowly reveals the story uh in such a careful

[1:35:50] and specific way so that you are kind of dragged along uh like this conspiracy slowly unfolds for

[1:35:59] you the viewer almost just like it does for the uh the characters in the movie uh it's really great

[1:36:05] um and in a time when there's not a lot of new stuff coming out it's uh it's a real gem so if

[1:36:10] you get a chance check it out uh i am going to recommend a movie i mentioned earlier that i am

[1:36:16] watching more japanese movies because i realized i haven't seen a japanese movie in a while

[1:36:20] and i finally got to see floating weeds that's right floating weeds it's an ozu movie uh starring

[1:36:27] genjiro nakamura and michiko kyo yes that's right that michiko kyo from gate of hell and ugetsu

[1:36:32] one of my favorites uh and this is the 1959 version this is a story that ozu told twice

[1:36:39] this is the version that's in color and with sound uh and it's the story of this kind of

[1:36:44] pretty low-rent acting troupe that shows up in a small seaside town uh for a run of shows of

[1:36:52] old-fashioned uh kind of kabuki style uh drama and in that town unbeknownst to almost everybody else

[1:37:01] the head of the acting troupe has an illegitimate son and an ex-lover and the son does not know

[1:37:07] that it's his father he thinks that this is his uncle who shows up every you know 12 years or so

[1:37:12] hasn't been there so it hasn't been there a long time and it's about what happens when that secret

[1:37:16] starts to come out and the movie is told like a lot of ozu movies very like deceptively simply

[1:37:23] and deceptively slowly but it's a beautiful looking movie and he's one of those directors

[1:37:28] where when i was young i like didn't wasn't quite on the right wavelength for it but now that i'm

[1:37:33] older i really love the way that he just photographs things and the way that he lets the stories play

[1:37:38] out and so i thought it was really great and uh it has comedy moments it's got heavy dramatic

[1:37:43] moments uh and the acting's really great in it it's called floating weeds david love floating

[1:37:49] weeds um i will recommend mid-august lunch um uh which is a little italian movie from 2008

[1:37:56] i interviewed um barry jenkins for the atlantic a couple weeks ago just asking him like hey what

[1:38:00] are you watching like because again gotta write about something um and this was a movie he

[1:38:06] recommended to me that i had never even heard of um it's by gianni di gregorio and he said he'd seen

[1:38:13] it at a film festival and he sort of vaguely remembered it and he was thinking about italy

[1:38:17] a lot about the sort of small towns in italy and the older population because of what was going on

[1:38:22] in the world and he flipped on this it's i think it's 80 minute uh sort of like sweet sad little

[1:38:28] comedy about a guy who starts looking after everyone's cranky relatives in his town when

[1:38:35] they all want to go on vacation in august and it kind of is just one of those like clever little

[1:38:42] comedies that creeps up on you like a real sense of place real sense of character

[1:38:46] gianni digicoreo it's on amazon mid-august lunch great okay well we've come to the end

[1:38:56] of this marathon david yes do you have anything you want to plug uh you know blank check with

[1:39:02] griffin and david my podcast um we take directors who were given a blank check by hollywood at some

[1:39:08] point in their careers you know to make some kind of insane passion project the movie uh and we go

[1:39:14] through their whole filmography up and down you guys were on the manchurian candidate episode

[1:39:18] for our demi miniseries recently uh that was fun we're just wrapping up george miller now

[1:39:24] and uh you know no has he made any good movies does he have one of the wildest filmographies of

[1:39:32] blockbuster director yes yes he does um so uh enjoy that it's a it's a it's such a good show

[1:39:39] i think i've alarmed uh griffin and david by tweeting too much about how i've been listening

[1:39:45] no i am i am unalarmable okay good i audrey like came out of the room once to be like

[1:39:54] are we gonna is am i just gonna hear david sims and griffin newman all quarantine i'm like hey

[1:40:00] man hell yeah it's making me feel good it's comforting me during this time so check it out

[1:40:05] i say um thank you yeah you said you said we'd be listening to more alice and janny if she had

[1:40:11] a longer metal discography but i guess that's not happening yeah so guys that's it uh you know

[1:40:18] check out the other shows at the maximum fun uh network maximum fun.org um stay safe wear a mask

[1:40:26] uh be good to each other all that stuff um yep yep and uh for the flop house i've been dan mccoy

[1:40:34] i'm stewart wellington i'm ellie kalin and david is david i'm david sims this is the kind of thing

[1:40:42] we're supposed to tell our guests that they're gonna do at the end of the episode i was like 80

[1:40:46] sure i was supposed to say something but i then i then i was what i like is i have to assume there

[1:40:51] was a voice in the back of your mind that was like if i'm not supposed to say something and i

[1:40:54] introduce myself at the end they'll yell at me so i better not do it yeah we're pretty mean

[1:41:00] anyway bye everyone i don't know why you feel the need to interrupt my kind uh invitation

[1:41:10] for socializing for a neighbor but consider it revenge for when you interrupted me thanking him

[1:41:15] for being on the show okay so yeah there's like two hours of this shit you're gonna this is the

[1:41:21] kind of energy. Very excited.

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