Ep. #327 - Men In Black: International, with Annabelle Gurwitch

Dan McCoy

[0:00] On this episode, we discuss Men in Black International.

Stuart Wellington

[0:06] Brought to you by the International Mail Catalog, your number one source for sleeveless dusters.

[0:30] Hey everyone, and welcome to the Flophouse. I'm Dan McCoy.

Dan McCoy

[0:43] Hey Dan, it's me, Stuart.

[0:45] Hey Stuart.

[0:46] Oh, okay, I'll wait until you guys say hello to each other before I introduce myself.

Elliott Kalan

[0:50] Have you guys seen each other not that recently, or what's going on?

Dan McCoy

[0:53] I mean, we actually haven't seen each other. Like the last time I think was when we taped last, so it's been a little while.

Stuart Wellington

[0:58] Well, we did a live show on Saturday.

[1:00] Oh, that's right.

Elliott Kalan

[1:00] So it's been a week. It's been a week. No, but you guys catch up. Talk about what's happened.

[1:04] I erased that from my memory.

[1:05] Tell each other about your Halloweens, and I'll sit here, and then I'll introduce myself afterwards.

Stuart Wellington

[1:10] I mean, we should probably just do the show. I mean, Dan and I could do this off mic.

Elliott Kalan

[1:15] Can you? It seemed like you were ready to do it right now, during the show.

Dan McCoy

[1:18] The audience doesn't tune in for this kind of passive aggressiveness.

[1:22] I mean, they do a little bit, but mostly it's the friendship they enjoy.

Elliott Kalan

[1:27] I'll say I'm the third member of this Mouvage à Trois.

[1:31] That's movie watching with three people.

[1:34] And my name's Elliot Kalin, but we also have a special guest today.

[1:37] You'll recognize her from television, movies, and print.

[1:40] That's right, the Triple Crown.

[1:41] She's the co-host of the all-new MaxFun podcast, Tiny Victories, and also the author of the upcoming book, You're Leaving When?, which comes out in March of next year, I believe, 2021.

[1:50] And, most importantly to me, she was the host for many years of Dinner and a Movie on TBS, where I learned how to cook pasta when I was younger.

[1:57] So, please help us in welcoming Annabelle Gurwitch.

[2:01] Annabelle, thank you very much for joining us.

S4

[2:03] Oh, hello.

[2:04] And I'm so glad you learned how to make pasta, because I didn't learn how to make anything.

[2:08] We had a chef on set with us, and actually, for like 24 hours, I would know how to make the dish that we made on the show.

[2:17] And then, just like the Nebulizer in Men in Black series, my memory would be wiped totally.

[2:29] So, I'm glad you retained some cooking skills from me.

Dan McCoy

[2:34] The very basics.

[2:35] Ellie, yeah, I wanted to query this a little bit.

[2:39] Now, when you say you learned how to cook pasta, you mean that you learned how to, like, make the entire dish with the sauce,

[2:48] or are you literally just talking about cooking pasta?

[2:50] Because that is a pretty easy process.

[2:52] You just boil some salted water and put the pasta in for between 8 to 12 minutes if it's packaged dried pasta,

[3:00] and maybe, you know, around 3 if it's a newer pasta.

[3:05] I can't believe he's showing off.

Elliott Kalan

[3:06] Dan, I don't appreciate you posplaining to me.

[3:09] And cook shaming, my lack of general knowledge about cooking.

[3:13] Okay.

[3:14] Nobody is born knowing how to make pasta, Dan.

[3:17] You've got to learn it from somewhere, and my parents did not teach me.

[3:20] So, I learned it from dinner and a movie.

Dan McCoy

[3:22] I mean, you could also learn it from the pasta box.

[3:24] That's the other place that people pick it up.

[3:27] On the streets, you know?

Elliott Kalan

[3:29] So, I just see a box of pasta lying on the street, and you think I'm going to pick that up and read it thoroughly,

[3:34] and then eat it?

[3:35] I don't think so, Dan.

[3:36] Okay, fair enough.

S4

[3:38] Daniel, I just feel like you want to take away the fact that I imbued some knowledge to Elliot.

[3:44] No!

[3:45] I feel like you're just, like, taking that away from me.

[3:48] It's like, I feel like it's a life achievement, okay?

[3:50] During this pandemic, I'm hanging on to little, little, tiny, okay, tiny victories,

[3:56] like having taught Elliot how to make pasta.

[4:00] Don't take that from me, man.

Dan McCoy

[4:02] Yeah, Dan.

[4:02] Okay.

[4:03] Dan.

[4:03] All right.

[4:04] Yeah, no, that's fair.

[4:06] That's fair.

[4:07] What's that I see on your bookshelf behind you, Elliot?

Stuart Wellington

[4:09] Is that an award for best pasta maker in Los Angeles?

Elliott Kalan

[4:13] Yes.

[4:14] Well, thanks to Dinner and a Movie, I did go to CIA, the Culinary Institute of America,

[4:17] and I became a master pastologist, and I did win the LA Citywide Pasta Competition.

[4:25] And, yes, as you can see, the trophy is, it's just gold pasta.

[4:29] It's just, like, gold linguine that's in a ball.

[4:31] It looks like a ball of yarn.

Stuart Wellington

[4:33] It spells out, that's amore, right?

Elliott Kalan

[4:36] No, no, that's, no, no, it's actually in front of one of those three-dimensional paintings

[4:41] you see in, like, an older aunt's house, where it's like Hollywood, and it's a lot of tourist

[4:46] stuff, and they have pieces of wood that make it look like a three-dimensional picture.

[4:50] Maybe my aunt is the only one who had one of these, but that's what says, that's amore

[4:53] in the back.

[4:53] I really embraced my New Jersey roots.

[4:57] I wasn't, I'm not Italian, but, you know, when you're from Jersey, you're a little Italian,

[5:02] so.

[5:02] Yeah, yeah.

[5:02] Yeah.

S4

[5:03] Oh, my God.

[5:03] I just saw that Chris Christie is on Cameo, and he got tricked, I guess, I don't know.

[5:11] How much brain power does it take to, is it okay if I say this, trick Chris Christie?

[5:17] I think it's totally okay.

[5:19] All right.

[5:19] Because he got tricked into making an endorsement video for, a cameo for the Democrat, a Democratic

[5:26] candidate.

[5:28] First of all, you deserve it if you're on Cameo, and you're Chris Christie, and you're for sale

[5:34] for $100.

[5:35] I don't know.

[5:36] It's just, I'm not feeling sorry for him.

Stuart Wellington

[5:38] Yeah.

[5:39] Maybe I'll keep Chris Christie in mind while I put together my feature film that is made

[5:43] entirely out of cameo purchases.

Dan McCoy

[5:48] That's funny.

[5:49] Annabelle, I want to apologize to you.

[5:51] My verve and passion for trying to get Elliot back for the many licks he's gotten in on

[5:57] me over the years had the unfortunate side effect of attacking you.

[6:02] There was a lot of blowback to that one, Dan.

[6:04] A lot of blowback.

S4

[6:05] Yeah.

[6:05] No, no.

[6:06] But I loved doing that show because one of my favorite things is to talk about movies.

[6:14] And I was a little bit ham, what is the word?

[6:20] Hamstrung?

[6:21] I was a little bit, okay, suddenly it sounded wrong because it was food.

Dan McCoy

[6:26] No, it's perfectly right.

[6:27] As using the word query would have been for what I said before.

[6:31] But I suddenly was...

Elliott Kalan

[6:31] I mean, I've never heard it pronounced query, but, you know, like scary.

[6:36] Query.

[6:36] Yeah, query, I would say.

Dan McCoy

[6:37] It's more of a highfalutin sort of British pronunciation of the word that some in America

[6:47] use, but not the real salt of the earth.

[6:48] You're right.

[6:49] I guess I should say it like I'm a backwoods frontiersman who's trying to find out if there's

Elliott Kalan

[6:54] a raccoon or a pie sealer outside my barn.

Dan McCoy

[6:56] See, it's the sort of snobbishness that has driven Metal America away, Elliot.

Elliott Kalan

[7:00] Metal America?

[7:01] I'm a member of Metal America.

[7:03] Dan, I love metal.

[7:04] Judas Priest, my favorite band.

S4

[7:06] Okay, I did not actually finish my sentence.

[7:09] Oh, sorry.

[7:10] Well, that happens a lot here, but...

[7:11] No, no, no, it's okay, it's okay.

[7:13] But I was going to just say, I was acting at the time I did that show, and so sometimes

[7:17] I...

[7:18] Dinner and Movie, so I sometimes held back on certain opinions, and I really spend my time

[7:23] writing now, and so I'm free to just totally...

Dan McCoy

[7:29] Oh, man, take the gloves off.

S4

[7:31] Woo-hoo!

[7:32] Yeah.

[7:33] And it's really just...

[7:35] People are just devastated by my reviews.

[7:39] It's not me.

S4

[7:39] It's not me.

[7:40] It's not me.

[7:41] It's not me.

[7:42] It's me.

S4

[7:42] It's me.

[7:43] It's me.

[7:44] It's me.

[7:44] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[7:45] So that's appropriate because this...

[7:47] At first, we thought this was going to be a pasta podcast, and then we thought it was

[7:52] going to be a podcast about pronunciation.

[7:55] But in fact, it's a podcast where we watch a bad movie, and then we talk about it.

[7:58] Right, guys?

[7:59] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[7:59] That's the theory.

[8:01] That's the theory, or theory.

[8:02] What did we watch about...

[8:03] I guess I should pronounce it theory.

[8:05] That's the way Dan would say to pronounce it.

Dan McCoy

[8:07] You took the segue right out of my mouth, Stuart, and thank you for that, because that

[8:10] thing was hurting.

[8:11] That was it.

[8:12] Yeah, yeah.

[8:12] I ate a whole segue.

[8:14] Uh-huh.

[8:14] Yep.

[8:15] No, yeah, we watched Men in Black International with a cavalcade of stars.

[8:20] You got your Tessa Thompson, your Chris Hemsworth, Liam Neeson, Emmett Thompson, Kumail Nanjiani

[8:27] does a voice.

[8:28] Yep.

[8:29] I feel like I'm forgetting...

[8:30] Oh, Rachel Ferguson.

[8:32] Rebecca Ferguson.

[8:34] Sorry.

[8:34] Rachel...

Stuart Wellington

[8:35] I can guarantee you've Googled Rebecca Ferguson feet before, Dan.

[8:39] You can't hear that mispronunciation.

Dan McCoy

[8:42] Yeah, Rebecca Ferguson, who you may know from the Mission Impossible movies, the later ones,

[8:51] and wearing a hat in Doctor Sleep.

[8:55] A lot of great actors in this movie.

[8:59] And Elliot, I believe you are talking about it, or Stuart?

Elliott Kalan

[9:02] I'll be summarizing this film today.

[9:04] Now, just to get everyone back up to speed, because the old Men in Black movies have been

[9:07] a while ago now.

[9:08] They followed Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones as two super secret agents who are trying

[9:15] to keep the Earth safe from aliens who are attacking Earth, by which I mean fleeing to Earth

[9:23] for a better life.

[9:24] So it was only while watching this movie that I was like, oh, this movie is about space ice.

[9:29] These Men in Black movies are all about if ice dealt with aliens, and they're the heroes,

[9:33] and also they erase people's memories routinely.

[9:35] They're kind of the bad guys, which is the place of Men in Black in UFO literature traditionally

[9:41] has been as bad guys who try to cover up real UFO sightings.

[9:45] But those movies flipped it on its head, and they made us love secretive, semi-fascist policing

[9:52] using taxpayer-funded advanced technology that we never get to see.

[9:56] Anyway, Men in Black International.

Stuart Wellington

[9:57] Are they a government agency?

[9:59] I can't remember.

Elliott Kalan

[10:00] Well, in the original movie, I think they're a U.S. government agency, but here they are,

[10:05] as the title says, international.

[10:07] Yeah.

[10:07] So maybe the U.N. is funding them, or maybe they just do it for kicks.

Dan McCoy

[10:11] I also want to note that there was actually a bigger gap between Men in Black 2 and Men

[10:17] in Black 3 than between Men in Black 3 and Men in Black International.

[10:20] There was a 10-year gap between the second one and the third one, because the second one

[10:24] was a big flop.

[10:26] And there's only a seven-year gap between Men in Black 3 and this attempted sort of reboot

[10:33] with other characters.

Elliott Kalan

[10:35] And what lesson can we draw from that, Dan?

Dan McCoy

[10:37] I just thought it was kind of interesting.

Elliott Kalan

[10:39] The second one was a big flop.

[10:42] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[10:43] That's the one with Laura Flynn Boyle, right?

[10:45] I can't actually speak to how it did financially.

[10:48] I don't think it did that well, but it was definitely not liked by basically everybody.

Elliott Kalan

[10:54] And the first one was a huge hit.

[10:55] It was Bofo B.O.

[10:56] And this pick had legs.

[10:58] Hicks did not nix.

[10:59] This sticks picks.

[11:01] And that's all the variety headlines I know.

[11:02] So let's talk about what happens in this one, Men in Black International.

[11:05] First off, we know this isn't going to be a regular movie, because the Columbia

[11:09] Pictures logo shows up.

[11:11] There's Columbia, the personification of liberty in the Western Hemisphere.

[11:14] And she slips on a pair of Men in Black sunglasses.

[11:17] Uh-oh.

Stuart Wellington

[11:18] At first, I thought that was a reference to the Joe Cool character from the Snoopy comics.

[11:22] But no, I think it's Men in Black.

S4

[11:24] No, I'm kidding.

[11:25] Wait.

[11:25] I just realized something.

[11:27] I think I watched the wrong movie.

Dan McCoy

[11:29] Oh, that's great.

[11:30] That's...

[11:31] Oh, perfect.

[11:31] We can describe it to you.

Elliott Kalan

[11:32] Okay.

[11:33] So we'll tell you the story of this one.

[11:35] This was...

[11:36] Okay.

[11:36] Perfect.

[11:37] So then let...

[11:39] Then you'll be experiencing this movie for the first time the way it was meant to be

[11:43] done with me telling you about it.

[11:45] So...

[11:45] Yeah.

[11:46] We start off.

[11:48] It's Paris 2016.

[11:50] And Chris Hemsworth and Liam Neeson, they're Men in Black London agents.

[11:53] They're called HNT.

[11:55] All the Men in Black agents.

[11:56] It's for a movie.

[11:58] Uh-oh.

[11:58] Which one did...

[11:59] Did you watch the first one?

[12:00] Yeah, which one did you watch?

S4

[12:02] Okay.

[12:03] I'm so...

[12:04] I must have, like, the worst case of COVID brain.

[12:07] I watched...

[12:08] It's fine.

[12:09] That...

[12:09] It was so terrible.

[12:11] It was the one where they travel back in time.

Dan McCoy

[12:14] I think that's the third one.

[12:16] Oh, wow.

[12:17] Which I would say is better than the second one.

S4

[12:20] But...

[12:20] I thought I was supposed to watch the third one.

Stuart Wellington

[12:23] I...

[12:24] Sometimes when we send literature, it's not super clear.

[12:27] Did you write when you...

[12:28] Elliot, when you wrote the email...

[12:29] Literature.

[12:30] When you said Men in Black International, did you just write three I's?

[12:33] And that might seem like Men in Black 3.

[12:35] It's possible.

[12:37] It's possible.

Dan McCoy

[12:38] Elliot fell asleep at the keyboard in the middle of writing International.

[12:43] And he just...

[12:44] Like, he, like, just...

[12:44] His nose hit the I multiple times instead of finishing the word International.

Elliott Kalan

[12:49] I have a typing problem called heavy finger.

[12:51] Where my finger sometimes lingers a little too long on some of the letters and multiplies them.

[12:56] Okay.

[12:57] Well, don't worry.

[12:59] We're still gonna have...

[13:00] We'll try to fit...

[13:01] I want you to...

[13:02] Actually, while we're going through,

[13:03] I want you to tell me,

[13:04] if this was Men in Black 3,

[13:05] what would they be doing at this point?

[13:07] Because I've never seen Men in Black 3.

[13:10] So I feel like we could both teach each other this time.

S4

[13:13] Okay.

[13:13] At this point in the movie,

[13:15] we are at the lunar prison.

[13:19] The international...

[13:21] It seemed international to me.

[13:24] How would I...

[13:25] I mean, it was like they were at the international lunar prison.

[13:31] Lunar prison, where they were...

[13:33] Yeah.

[13:34] Where a...

[13:34] Yeah.

[13:35] Where a...

[13:35] Troglodaitish kind of person is...

[13:40] I mean, alien, is breaking out to come and...

[13:44] Yeah.

[13:44] Come back to Earth and wreak havoc.

[13:47] And they have to travel back in time to Tommy Lee Jones's past.

[13:54] Yeah.

[13:55] And to...

[13:56] For Will Smith to...

[13:59] To...

[14:00] To...

[14:00] To write a wrong that wasn't...

[14:03] To finish uncompleted work.

[14:06] Yeah.

[14:06] When they do that in a sequel.

[14:08] Mm-hmm.

[14:09] You know, the work that's...

[14:10] There was something left unfinished.

[14:12] Yeah, yeah.

[14:12] Yeah.

[14:12] And they have to go back in the past.

[14:14] And it's going to change everything.

[14:15] But this was the...

[14:16] What happens in that movie,

[14:18] I'm just going to give you the brief summary,

[14:19] is that was one of those movies

[14:21] where they seek to give you the backstory,

[14:26] the heartwarming backstory

[14:28] that you don't give a shit about.

[14:31] You just can't be fun.

[14:35] But it was fun and funny.

[14:37] And they're just going to deny you that

[14:39] and try to pull it at your heartstrings.

[14:42] And you're like,

[14:43] No.

[14:45] That's not what I'm tuning in for.

[14:47] Give me my funny aliens.

[14:50] I don't want to know Will Smith's backstory.

[14:55] I just want to see him be charismatic

[14:57] and be Will Smith.

[14:58] That's the movie in a nutshell.

Elliott Kalan

[15:01] Okay.

[15:01] I mean, there's similar stuff going on in this one,

[15:04] as you'll see.

[15:05] I will also mention, though,

[15:06] how great would it have been

[15:07] if he had to go into Tommy Lee Jones' actual past

[15:10] and it's like he's on the set of Coal Miner's Daughter

[15:12] and Will Smith is like,

[15:13] We got to stop these aliens.

[15:14] And he's like,

[15:15] I don't understand what you're talking about.

[15:17] So we'll see that that movie

[15:18] sounds kind of like this one in some ways.

[15:19] So it's Paris, 2016.

[15:21] Agents H&T, that's right,

[15:23] Chris Hemsworth and Liam Neeson,

[15:24] they're from London,

[15:25] but they're in Paris.

[15:26] And they're those kind of smug,

[15:29] like, uh-oh, another adventure.

[15:30] Well, let's stop this one, old buddy.

[15:33] And they interrupt a marriage proposal

[15:34] at the Eiffel Tower

[15:35] because the Hive,

[15:36] a kind of vague alien menace

[15:38] that absorbs other species and planets,

[15:40] are invading Earth.

[15:41] Ah, can they stop them?

[15:43] They must have.

[15:44] Because now we're in Brooklyn,

[15:45] and this is done as if it's taking place

[15:47] at the same time as that,

[15:48] but it's got to be the 1990s

[15:49] because this is Tessa Thompson's character

[15:51] as a little girl,

[15:53] and the idea that she aged 20 years

[15:56] in the past four years

[15:57] doesn't make any sense.

[15:58] No.

[15:59] But it's weird that they would go to 2016

[16:00] and then without saying the year again,

[16:02] go way beyond that.

[16:04] But this little girl, Molly,

[16:06] she encounters a kind of, like,

[16:07] Stitch-looking alien,

[16:08] like Lilo and Stitch.

[16:09] Yep.

[16:10] And her parents are like...

[16:11] That's what it looked like.

[16:12] Yeah, the parents are like,

[16:12] there's some kind of animal,

[16:14] and the men in black agents show up.

[16:15] They erase her parents' memory,

[16:16] but they don't erase hers,

[16:18] and she helps that alien escape

[16:19] by basically saying,

[16:20] go out that window right now.

[16:21] She doesn't really do that much to help it.

Dan McCoy

[16:22] Now, I want to talk about a problem

[16:24] that I have with the men in black procedurally.

[16:29] Okay.

[16:29] Because...

[16:30] Sure.

Elliott Kalan

[16:30] This is the right forum for that, yes?

Dan McCoy

[16:32] Yes.

[16:33] So Liam Neeson and Chris Hemsworth

[16:35] and these two agents

[16:36] outside young Tessa Thompson's house

[16:40] do the same thing.

[16:41] They both explain what's actually happening,

[16:44] the alien thing that is actually happening,

[16:46] and then they neuralize them.

[16:48] And I'm like,

[16:49] well, why are you explaining this

[16:51] to these people beforehand

[16:53] if you're just going to erase their brain,

[16:54] especially when, in the second case,

[16:57] it allows Tessa Thompson

[16:58] to overhear you talking about aliens?

Stuart Wellington

[17:01] Yeah.

[17:02] Do you think that's part of the way

[17:03] the neuralizer works,

[17:04] where you have to, like, say...

[17:06] By, like, saying it,

[17:07] it brings it to the forefront of your brain,

[17:09] and then you're like,

[17:10] time to wipe that chalkboard clean.

S4

[17:13] Yeah, I know.

[17:13] I have a problem

[17:14] with the procedural aspect, too,

[17:16] of all the Men in Black movies

[17:17] with that aspect,

[17:18] because I also feel like,

[17:20] why don't they show us the story

[17:22] of the actual repercussions

[17:24] that happened from that one of...

[17:27] Just one in that...

[17:28] There's always, like, a crowd, right?

[17:30] Mm-hmm.

[17:30] And so, like, someone goes home,

[17:33] and their wife is really pissed at them

[17:37] because they can't remember where they were.

[17:40] Oh, yeah, likely story,

[17:41] or does it just delete that time?

[17:44] I mean, I really need to know,

[17:46] like, how that works.

Elliott Kalan

[17:48] Somebody gets arrested by the regular police,

[17:51] and they're like,

[17:51] where were you last night

[17:52] when the murder took place?

[17:53] I don't remember.

[17:54] I wasn't there,

[17:54] but I don't remember.

[17:55] I didn't do it.

[17:56] And they're like,

[17:56] okay, throw him away.

[17:57] And the Men in Black are like,

[17:58] we could testify on his behalf,

[18:00] but then we'd have to reveal

[18:01] there are aliens, so...

[18:03] Sorry, buddy.

Dan McCoy

[18:03] They fill in everyone's memory

[18:05] with a false memory

[18:07] after they neuralize it.

[18:08] That part makes sense to me.

[18:10] It's just like,

[18:11] why do you have to...

[18:11] It really feels like

[18:13] they're just, like,

[18:14] fucking with these people.

[18:15] Yeah.

[18:15] It's also possibly part of it.

[18:18] The real screenplay reason

[18:19] is they're explaining to the audience

[18:21] what's going on,

[18:22] but I'm just like,

[18:25] why is this happening?

S4

[18:27] Thank you, Sarah.

[18:28] It's another one of those issues

[18:29] that I'm just gonna go

[18:30] super, super serious

[18:33] with this series

[18:34] because, you know,

[18:35] it exists on so many levels

[18:38] that are troubling.

[18:39] So, yes,

[18:41] there is this sort of

[18:42] fascist sort of element

[18:44] to the ICE group

[18:46] that, you know,

[18:47] itself,

[18:48] which is probably...

[18:50] I'm sure there's some Reddit somewhere,

[18:51] some Reddit thread

[18:52] that someone speculated

[18:54] that the ICE organization

[18:55] in Men in Black

[18:56] is funded by Bill Gates

[18:57] or something, but...

Stuart Wellington

[18:59] This is in fiction, right?

[19:01] Not in the real Reddit

[19:02] or in real Reddit,

[19:03] as well.

[19:03] You know,

S4

[19:04] in real Reddit.

[19:04] In real Reddit.

[19:05] It's QMIV, yeah.

[19:07] There's like this

[19:08] sort of like

[19:09] fascist undercurrent

[19:12] of all the things

[19:13] the government's not keeping

[19:15] from you

[19:16] paired with the

[19:17] fuzzy,

[19:19] cute,

[19:21] alien universe.

[19:23] because it's just

[19:24] sort of a funny

[19:25] dichotomy there

[19:26] that I...

[19:27] It just...

[19:28] It's just sort of

[19:29] a clash for me.

[19:30] In the first Men in Black,

[19:32] it was just

[19:33] all so silly

[19:34] and campy

[19:35] that I went with

[19:36] the sort of,

[19:37] okay, fascism.

[19:39] I'll go.

[19:40] You know,

[19:40] you're fun.

[19:41] Fun fascism, right?

Stuart Wellington

[19:43] And you're also

[19:43] coming at it as an...

[19:45] I feel like in the first movie,

[19:46] you are thoroughly

[19:47] with Will Smith

[19:48] and you are coming

[19:49] at this world

[19:50] as an outsider

[19:51] and there's something

[19:52] about an outsider

[19:53] who is like learning

[19:54] about this new world

[19:54] that makes it

[19:55] slightly less scary.

Dan McCoy

[19:58] I also don't...

[19:59] I mean,

[19:59] I don't want to be

[20:00] Men in Black apologists

[20:01] because like

[20:02] sometimes they do

[20:03] seem to just be like,

[20:04] okay,

[20:05] these are illegal aliens.

[20:07] These are...

[20:07] They haven't gone

[20:08] through the proper channels.

[20:10] But at the same time,

[20:11] like you go around

[20:12] Men in Black headquarters,

[20:14] there's plenty of aliens

[20:15] working there.

[20:15] They seem to be like

[20:16] cool with aliens

[20:18] in general.

[20:19] So...

[20:20] There are so many aliens.

Stuart Wellington

[20:22] I feel like

[20:22] so much of the movie

[20:24] is people

[20:25] walking through rooms

[20:27] filled with aliens.

[20:28] Like I feel like

[20:28] when Guillermo del Toro

[20:29] was in the movie theater,

[20:30] he's like,

[20:31] more of this.

[20:32] Just more of this.

Elliott Kalan

[20:33] It makes me wonder

[20:35] why there's so many aliens

[20:36] that work there.

[20:37] Why are aliens a secret?

S4

[20:39] Yeah.

[20:40] But also,

[20:40] okay,

[20:41] here's another anomaly

[20:42] of the movies

[20:43] and this is where

[20:44] I think I take it,

[20:46] you know,

[20:46] I'm taking this

[20:48] very,

[20:48] I take these things

[20:49] very seriously.

[20:50] So,

[20:51] in the Star Wars

[20:52] series,

[20:54] which I hold

[20:55] very sacrosanct

[20:56] because I am

[20:56] that kind of creepy person,

[20:59] you know,

[21:00] the aliens,

[21:01] the funny alien

[21:03] out costuming

[21:04] and,

[21:05] you know,

[21:05] like the Jabba the Hutt

[21:07] set pieces,

[21:09] right?

[21:10] In the bar.

[21:11] that's intended

[21:12] as comic relief

[21:14] in the middle

[21:15] of a Joseph Campbell

[21:16] mythological

[21:18] hero's call

[21:20] to action film,

[21:22] right?

[21:22] This is the

[21:22] continual

[21:24] saga being played out

[21:26] in Star Wars.

[21:27] It's a serious movie.

[21:28] Then you get

[21:28] these funny aliens.

[21:30] In the first

[21:31] Men in Black,

[21:31] the funny,

[21:32] it was all just

[21:32] funny aliens,

[21:34] right?

[21:34] But then I feel like

[21:35] they start to mix up

[21:36] their themes

[21:37] and then I'm not sure

[21:38] if the funny aliens

[21:40] are the point

[21:41] or if it's,

[21:42] if it's,

[21:42] what kind of,

[21:43] I'm not sure what world

[21:44] we're in anymore.

[21:45] I get very confused.

Elliott Kalan

[21:46] That's,

[21:47] that's an issue that I had

[21:48] with this movie too

[21:49] because I was not sure

[21:49] when I was supposed to

[21:50] care about things or not

[21:52] or what was serious

[21:53] and what wasn't

[21:53] because,

[21:54] well,

[21:55] let's get back into the movie.

[21:56] I think that's a good point.

[21:57] So it's present day

[21:58] and now Molly is all grown up.

[22:00] She's Tessa Thompson

[22:00] and she's applying

[22:02] to all the,

[22:02] you know,

[22:03] the FBI,

[22:03] the CIA,

[22:04] trying to figure out

[22:04] how to join the Men in Black

[22:05] but she keeps getting stonewalled.

[22:07] Luckily,

[22:07] at her tech support

[22:08] call center job,

[22:09] her computer can track

[22:10] space anomalies

[22:11] and she tracks

[22:12] the suspicious trajectory.

[22:13] I mean,

[22:14] she probably,

Elliott Kalan

[22:14] you know,

Dan McCoy

[22:14] installed an extra program.

[22:16] I'm guessing that one

[22:17] didn't come with,

[22:18] I don't think IT

[22:19] put that on there.

Stuart Wellington

[22:20] It's probably the one

[22:20] she has in her apartment

[22:21] with the super killer graphics.

[22:23] Yeah.

[22:24] Yes.

[22:24] Well,

Elliott Kalan

[22:24] and she is logging in

[22:25] as an,

S4

[22:26] can I interrupt you

[22:27] for one second?

[22:28] I don't know if you,

[22:28] you follow this sort of stuff

[22:30] but as someone who once,

[22:32] you know,

[22:32] was like a,

[22:33] well,

[22:33] I was like always

[22:34] a Star Trek girl and stuff

[22:36] and so I follow this stuff

[22:38] but the intelligence agencies

[22:41] now allow for you

[22:43] to have smoke weed.

[22:45] I just wanted to mention that.

[22:46] They didn't use

[22:46] so much on the applications.

[22:48] And just in case

[22:49] any listener is out there

[22:50] thinking of a career change

[22:52] during COVID.

Dan McCoy

[22:53] Are you recruiting?

[22:54] Is this like a backdoor recruitment?

[22:56] I love the idea

Elliott Kalan

[22:57] of like a CIA agent

[22:59] who's like,

[23:00] hey kids,

[23:00] you know what's cool?

[23:02] Getting high

[23:03] and protecting your country.

Dan McCoy

[23:05] I mean,

[23:06] now the one thing,

[23:07] you know,

[23:07] that was stopping me

[23:08] has been removed.

[23:09] I mean,

[23:09] other than the fact

[23:10] that I'm 42

[23:11] and I haven't trained

[23:13] in any sort of,

[23:14] you know,

[23:15] analysis or geopolitics.

S4

[23:16] How many people

[23:17] have been quarantining

[23:19] at home

[23:20] thinking about a new career

[23:22] smoking a lot of weed?

[23:24] Young people.

[23:25] Young people

[23:25] just out of college

[23:27] smoking a lot of,

[23:28] they're home,

[23:29] what are you going to do?

[23:30] And now,

[23:31] they're listening to this

[23:32] and they're thinking,

[23:33] okay.

Stuart Wellington

[23:34] I mean,

[23:35] young people don't listen to this

[23:36] but that's okay.

Dan McCoy

[23:38] Now,

[23:38] a surprising number do.

[23:39] I don't know why

[23:40] because they're all like,

[23:41] these are all like

[23:42] middle-aged people references

[23:43] that we make

[23:44] for the most part.

Stuart Wellington

[23:45] It's like,

[23:46] it's the comfort of

[23:47] hearing your dad's weird friends

[23:49] in the next room.

[23:50] Yeah,

[23:50] yeah,

[23:50] exactly,

[23:51] yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[23:52] So,

[23:52] she,

[23:53] but things are about to get

[23:55] a little bit more dramatic

[23:56] for Molly.

[23:57] She tracks this suspicious trajectory

[23:58] to a disguised crash site.

[24:01] There's like a hologram

[24:01] that makes it look like

[24:02] a construction site

[24:03] but really the men in black

[24:04] are taking away this alien

[24:05] who everyone seems to know.

[24:07] He seems to be a famous alien

[24:08] who's never mentioned again.

[24:10] Not a character in the movie.

[24:11] No.

[24:12] Molly gets-

[24:12] It's just a repeat offender,

Dan McCoy

[24:13] I think,

[24:14] is what's being-

Elliott Kalan

[24:15] But anyway.

[24:15] Molly gets into a classic

[24:17] New York City yellow cab.

[24:19] Follow that car.

[24:20] God damn it.

[24:20] All right,

[24:21] whatever you say.

Stuart Wellington

[24:21] I love,

[24:22] man,

[24:23] seeing a person without a mask

[24:25] getting in a New York cab,

[24:26] oh,

[24:27] I love it.

Elliott Kalan

[24:28] That's the science fiction,

[24:29] am I right, Stu?

[24:29] Yeah.

[24:31] She follows them

[24:32] to men in black headquarters

[24:32] and she tries to sneak in

[24:34] by walking right in.

[24:35] Like,

[24:36] she doesn't have much of a plan.

Dan McCoy

[24:37] It just occurred to me,

[24:38] this is where she told them

[24:39] to keep the motor running,

[24:40] right?

[24:40] Is this-

Elliott Kalan

[24:41] Yeah,

[24:41] so he's still waiting for her.

[24:42] Like,

Dan McCoy

[24:42] keep the meter running,

[24:43] sorry,

[24:43] I mean.

Elliott Kalan

[24:43] Well,

[24:44] no,

[24:44] she tells him to keep the meter running

[24:45] when they get to the crash site,

[24:47] I think.

[24:47] Yeah.

[24:48] Uh-huh.

[24:48] And then she goes,

[24:49] follow that car.

[24:50] So-

[24:51] Oh,

[24:51] okay.

Dan McCoy

[24:52] I thought,

[24:52] like,

[24:53] in my head,

[24:53] I'm like,

[24:53] wait a minute,

[24:54] did she just abandon that cab?

[24:55] Because if she did,

[24:57] we were denied the post-credit sequence

[24:59] of that cab still waiting for her.

[25:01] And the meter is up to like $40,000

Stuart Wellington

[25:03] and he's like,

Elliott Kalan

[25:03] this is gonna put my kids through college.

[25:05] Exactly.

Stuart Wellington

[25:06] Yeah,

[25:06] he's rubbing his hands together.

Elliott Kalan

[25:08] He's like,

[25:08] this is gonna be the best fare I ever had.

[25:10] But he's like hungry

[25:11] and he's been holding in the-

Stuart Wellington

[25:12] He's eating his shoes at this point.

[25:14] Yeah,

[25:14] he's got a big beard.

[25:15] He really has to use the bathroom,

Elliott Kalan

[25:16] but he can't get out of the car.

[25:18] So she gets caught and taken to O,

[25:20] played by Emma Thompson,

[25:21] the head of the office.

[25:22] Now,

[25:22] all the men in black agents worldwide

[25:23] are called by one letter,

[25:26] which leads me to believe

[25:26] there are only 26 men in black agents

[25:28] in the entire world.

[25:29] But there's so many people in the office.

[25:30] And I guess four more in Spain.

[25:32] But it's like,

[25:33] they don't,

[25:34] what do they do

[25:34] when they run out of letters?

[25:35] Guys,

[25:35] what do you think?

[25:36] Oh,

S4

[25:36] they double it.

[25:37] It's like 007.

Dan McCoy

[25:38] Oh.

[25:40] Double K.

[25:41] But what about W?

[25:42] See,

[25:43] that's where you run into problems.

[25:45] Yeah.

[25:45] You gotta skip directly to triple U

[25:47] if you're gonna do that.

S4

[25:49] Yeah,

[25:49] the W agents are like,

[25:52] no,

[25:52] God,

[25:53] please,

[25:54] don't do W me.

[25:56] Don't W me.

Elliott Kalan

[25:58] Don't you,

[25:59] don't you W me.

[26:00] Don't you do it.

[26:01] And you know that

[26:02] Molly becomes Agent M

[26:03] and you know that she and Agent N

[26:05] are always getting mixed up.

[26:06] She's always getting Agent N's call.

[26:08] And Agent N,

[26:09] N is always getting Agent M's call.

[26:11] It's not a good system,

[26:12] I guess is what I'm saying.

Dan McCoy

[26:13] Yeah,

[26:13] she's always asked to be like M,

[26:14] like in Marshmallow

[26:15] when she introduces herself to people.

[26:17] Exactly.

Elliott Kalan

[26:18] And Agent B and D,

[26:19] it's not a good system.

[26:20] Oh,

[26:20] anyway,

[26:20] so Emma Thompson is like,

[26:21] I've been impressed

[26:22] by your dedication to this

[26:23] and also how pathetically lonely you are

[26:25] because Tessa Thompson says that

[26:26] relationships just distract you

[26:28] from the truth.

[26:29] Now we know what she's about,

[26:30] learning how to love and trust.

[26:31] And she recruits her

[26:32] as a probationary agent.

[26:34] She does not get her neuralyzer

[26:35] until she completes her first mission.

[26:37] And the neuralyzer,

[26:38] again,

[26:38] is the amnesia device.

[26:39] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[26:40] I love that that's the one thing

[26:41] you don't get.

[26:42] She gets to shoot all kinds of,

[26:44] you know,

[26:45] extremely dangerous weapons.

[26:46] But the neuralyzer is the one thing.

[26:49] Yeah,

[26:49] because it's too much.

Elliott Kalan

[26:51] So now we go back to London.

[26:53] Chris Hemsworth is going undercover

[26:55] to infiltrate alien smugglers,

[26:57] but he gets caught by them.

[26:58] He gets bitten by a three-headed snake

[26:59] and in exchange for the antidote

[27:01] to the snake poison,

[27:02] he sleeps with the smuggler's alien wife.

[27:04] So that's the kind of hero we got.

[27:06] He's somehow the best agent they've got,

[27:08] even though he's always messing up,

[27:09] always breaking the rules,

[27:10] and is like having sex with his suspects

[27:13] that he's supposed to be watching.

[27:14] So how is he the best?

[27:16] He's like a Captain Kirk type

[27:17] where it's like he's the best of us,

[27:18] even though he does everything wrong

[27:19] and causes bigger problems.

Dan McCoy

[27:21] So I've got a little bit,

[27:22] I do have a problem with this arc, Elliot.

[27:23] I agree with you.

[27:24] But for slightly different reasons.

[27:26] Like we learn that his tragic backstory,

[27:29] like we'll talk about it in more depth later,

[27:32] but we learn that his tragic backstory

[27:33] is basically just a bad breakup.

[27:35] I mean,

[27:35] like there are extra levels to it.

[27:37] Let's just say that.

[27:39] And it's,

[27:40] the way he acts is so out of proportion to that.

[27:43] Like he used to be the best agent

[27:46] and now he kind of is like halfway

[27:49] to a Captain Jack Sparrow type

[27:51] where he's like this sort of like dissolute,

[27:52] like he seems like sort of drunk

[27:54] and he doesn't really care about

[27:56] what he's doing.

S4

[27:57] Are you saying Captain Jack Sparrow

[27:59] was a drinker?

Stuart Wellington

[28:03] What?

[28:04] I just assumed he got hit on the head

[28:06] with a coconut multiple times.

Elliott Kalan

[28:08] All the time.

[28:08] Well, he has a coconut tree at home on the ship

[28:10] and the coconuts are always hitting him in the head.

[28:12] Yeah.

[28:13] I mean,

[28:13] well, Dan,

[28:13] I think,

[28:14] I think some of this is,

[28:15] some of this is supposed to be.

[28:16] I mean,

[28:17] the initial investment is higher.

[28:18] I mean,

[28:19] the coconut trees are,

[28:20] palm trees are expensive.

[28:21] They're expensive trees to buy.

[28:23] Yeah.

[28:23] But if you want coconuts,

[28:25] that's what you got to do.

[28:25] You're not going to get them

[28:26] from any other type of tree.

[28:27] Just try it.

[28:28] Dan,

[28:28] I,

[28:28] tomorrow,

[28:29] plant an oak tree,

[28:31] wait 40 years,

[28:32] 50 years,

[28:33] you're not going to get any coconuts from it.

[28:34] Stuart?

S4

[28:35] Wait,

[28:35] I have to ask you a question.

[28:36] Are you saying that Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones do not appear in this movie?

Elliott Kalan

[28:42] They are never in this movie.

[28:44] I have to,

[28:44] I have to assume their characters died between films.

[28:47] And so now.

[28:48] Nor are they mentioned.

[28:49] And they're never mentioned.

[28:50] And it's,

[28:50] yeah,

[28:50] Rip Torn,

[28:51] who,

[28:51] you know,

[28:52] of course passed,

[28:52] but he's not mentioned in the movie,

[28:54] even though he's the head of the organization in the old one.

[28:55] There's,

[28:56] this is,

[28:56] it's almost like this is an offshoot from a different reality where the agents we came to know and love in the original men in black movies,

[29:03] they don't exist.

[29:04] This is a totally different system.

[29:06] And there's,

[29:07] so Dan,

[29:07] but some of his personality change,

[29:09] I think is supposed to be because of what happened to him in Paris that night.

Dan McCoy

[29:12] Oh,

[29:13] so you,

[29:13] okay.

[29:14] You think it's a bit,

[29:15] so,

[29:15] well,

[29:15] that's even worse though,

[29:16] because then the men in black are going around making everyone loopy with their neuralizers.

[29:20] Yeah.

[29:20] Spoiler alert.

Elliott Kalan

[29:21] When you use the neuralizer,

[29:22] you turn everyone into like a,

[29:24] into like a big boorish kind of like,

[29:26] you know,

[29:27] boozy goof.

[29:28] Yeah.

[29:30] So Molly is now Agent M.

[29:32] She takes a turbo subway to London.

[29:33] This is this turbo subway that no one on the,

[29:36] subway seems to,

[29:37] seems to be ready for the propulsion.

[29:39] Okay.

[29:39] And the thrust.

[29:40] They're always,

[29:40] all their stuff is flying out of their hands.

[29:42] It's like,

[29:42] I thought you commuted on this.

Dan McCoy

[29:44] I have a big problem with this gag too,

[29:47] because we get to the subway.

[29:49] The subway looks like a traditional grimy subway.

[29:52] It looks much like any New York subway might,

[29:56] but there are a bunch of aliens walking around the platform.

[29:58] Well,

Dan McCoy

[29:58] not those news stations up on,

[29:59] not the news stations in the ugly side.

[30:00] All right.

Dan McCoy

[30:00] Just let me get my point out.

[30:03] I'm just saying those are really clean.

[30:04] Okay.

[30:05] There are a bunch of aliens out on the platform.

[30:07] Clearly this is a men in black platform.

[30:10] And she gets onto this train and then the train transforms into,

[30:14] you know,

[30:15] gleaming,

[30:15] uh,

[30:17] uh,

[30:17] science fiction,

[30:18] men in black train.

[30:20] Yeah.

[30:20] And zooms to another men in black platform with a bunch of aliens.

[30:24] I'm like,

[30:24] why are you camouflaging this train?

[30:26] What possible reason is there for this?

Stuart Wellington

[30:29] It's a visual gag for the audience,

[30:30] Dan.

[30:31] That's why they did it.

S4

[30:32] Yeah.

[30:33] Okay.

[30:33] Now,

[30:33] you're following Chris Hemsworth's storyline.

[30:39] Where is Liam Neeson?

Elliott Kalan

[30:41] Okay.

[30:41] So we're going to see him.

[30:42] So that's the thing.

[30:43] So,

Elliott Kalan

[30:43] uh,

[30:44] Molly is about to meet him.

[30:46] It's a,

[30:46] it's a good question.

[30:48] But anyway,

[30:48] uh,

[30:49] Molly,

[30:49] Agent M,

[30:50] she shows up in London.

[30:51] She pets this little alien that,

[30:52] that solves into little like mischievous critters.

[30:54] But that scene ends before anything really happens with it.

[30:57] Suddenly we're in Marrakesh where a janitor gets melted by two energy

[31:01] beings who they steal his,

[31:03] his form,

[31:03] right?

[31:04] Cause they turn into late twins.

[31:06] The twin breakdance duo.

Stuart Wellington

[31:07] Janitor dances a little bit too.

[31:09] So you gotta know that it's the same,

[31:11] same moves.

Elliott Kalan

[31:12] That's right.

[31:12] So late twins are showing up in their second flop house episode after

[31:15] appearing in cats,

[31:16] the movie.

[31:17] Now,

Dan McCoy

[31:17] now Elliot,

[31:18] were they the cats that,

[31:20] uh,

[31:20] were dancing with the sneakers on?

[31:22] Is that?

[31:22] Yes.

[31:23] They're breakdancing cats.

Elliott Kalan

[31:24] That's all they do.

[31:25] They're breakdancers,

[31:25] Dan.

[31:26] That's what the,

[31:26] if you see breakdancers in a movie and there's two of them,

[31:28] it's them.

Dan McCoy

[31:28] I understand who breakdancers are.

[31:30] I'm just,

S4

[31:30] I just want to say,

[31:31] I loved the movie cats.

[31:33] I loved the movie cats.

Dan McCoy

[31:33] It was so amazing.

S4

[31:34] I went to the movie theater with one of my best friends.

[31:38] We laughed.

[31:40] So we were,

[31:41] we were the only ones there.

[31:43] We were just weeping when Idris Elba comes out naked,

[31:48] basically looking like a naked person.

[31:51] It's a naked man.

[31:52] It's like a cat.

[31:53] Right.

[31:54] It was stolen.

[31:55] Yeah.

[31:55] It was totally a,

[31:56] a,

[31:56] a neutered,

[31:57] a neutered Idris Elba,

[32:00] um,

[32:01] totally naked,

[32:02] but strangely furry.

[32:03] I just,

[32:04] I just laughed so hard.

[32:06] I,

[32:06] I appreciate that.

[32:07] I,

[32:08] I mean,

[32:09] there's not a lot that can do,

[32:10] you know,

[32:10] you need that.

[32:12] So thank you.

[32:14] You know,

[32:16] giving us,

[32:17] giving us that.

[32:18] That movie came out at the,

Elliott Kalan

[32:19] it,

[32:20] yeah,

[32:20] it came out at the wrong time.

[32:21] It came out before the pandemic.

[32:23] If it had come out now,

[32:24] when people needed a laugh,

[32:25] it would be the biggest movie in the history of the world.

[32:26] It would be back to this movie.

[32:30] So late twins,

[32:31] they go to this,

[32:31] these,

[32:32] these energy beings,

[32:33] they go to the secret workshop where these tiny little aliens live.

[32:36] And there's like a queen alien and her little pawns.

[32:37] And they say,

[32:38] we need something that we can use to kill this Jababian prince.

[32:41] The Jababians are aliens.

[32:43] We're back to London.

[32:44] And here's where we see,

[32:45] uh,

[32:47] uh,

[32:47] T,

[32:48] Liam Neeson.

[32:48] He's met Molly very briefly.

[32:50] And now he is holding like a little,

[32:52] uh,

[32:53] briefing session.

[32:54] H is kind of in trouble for his unauthorized smuggler sting operation,

[32:58] but not really.

[32:58] They kind of shrugged it off pretty easily.

[33:00] And T assigns him to chaperone Vungus,

[33:02] a visiting member of the Jababian royal family.

[33:05] This is the assassination target.

[33:07] Uh,

[33:07] it turns out they're old,

[33:08] they're old partying buddies.

[33:09] And Chris Hemsworth has an unending stream of stories that he tells about him and Vungus hanging out.

[33:15] And when they finally meet,

[33:16] it doesn't seem like they really like each other that much.

Stuart Wellington

[33:18] None of those stories sound that much fun.

[33:20] No.

Elliott Kalan

[33:20] They feel like first drafts.

[33:23] And,

[33:24] uh,

[33:24] Molly is like,

[33:25] uh,

[33:25] she says to H,

[33:26] uh,

[33:27] here's a dossier about Jababians that I wrote.

[33:29] I should be your partner.

[33:29] I know all about them.

[33:30] I speak their language.

[33:31] And he's,

[33:31] and she's kind of lying,

[33:32] but he likes that she's lying and thinks he can use her in some way.

[33:35] So he goes,

[33:35] okay,

[33:36] you come with me.

[33:37] It's your classic straight arrow,

[33:38] loose cannon matchup,

[33:40] except really personality wise,

[33:41] they're kind of similar.

[33:42] There's not that it's,

[33:43] and I think they thought we're going to match.

[33:45] Chris Hemsworth and Tessa Thompson were so good together in Thor Ragnarok.

[33:48] Let's build a whole men in black movie around them.

[33:50] And they just don't have,

[33:52] but it's weird because in Thor Ragnarok,

[33:54] Tessa Thompson is the loose cannon and Thor is the straight arrow.

[33:58] But here they decided to,

[33:59] they did,

[33:59] they pulled an Ishtar and they decided to switch up their personalities.

[34:02] And I don't know if they didn't really do it that well.

Dan McCoy

[34:05] Now,

[34:05] Ellie,

[34:05] I,

[34:06] I gotta say,

[34:06] I look,

[34:08] I'll tip my hand a little bit.

[34:09] I didn't mind this movie.

[34:10] I'll talk about it more in the final judgments,

[34:12] but part of the reason I didn't mind is like this.

[34:15] The screenplay is,

[34:16] is completely boilerplate.

[34:19] There's not much going on there,

[34:21] but Tessa Thompson and Chris Hemsworth are two of the most attractive,

[34:28] charming people existing on earth today.

[34:30] And so I'm kind of happy just to see them like goof around a little.

Elliott Kalan

[34:34] Well,

[34:34] that's what I've just felt like the whole time I was watching the movie.

[34:36] I was like,

[34:36] what could these two be doing with a movie that gave them like more fun stuff to do?

[34:41] Like there's so much better than this material.

[34:43] You know,

Stuart Wellington

[34:44] it's like,

[34:44] uh,

[34:45] and I'll say the same for Camille Nanjiani,

[34:47] uh,

[34:48] and,

[34:49] uh,

[34:49] Rebecca Ferguson later.

[34:50] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[34:51] Again,

[34:52] the whole cast down the line.

[34:54] Great cast.

Elliott Kalan

[34:55] Emma Thompson and Liam Neeson,

[34:56] of course,

[34:57] not capable of that much.

[34:58] So here I was like,

[35:00] I was like,

[35:01] wow.

[35:02] It's a joke guys.

[35:04] Come on.

[35:05] You know,

[35:05] I'm joking.

[35:06] I would never say that about Nanny McPhee.

[35:08] Come on.

[35:09] Uh,

[35:09] so they go to,

[35:10] can I,

S4

[35:11] can I,

[35:11] can I just say,

[35:12] I,

[35:12] I love Emma Thompson so much that she's,

[35:15] you know,

[35:16] the thing about her is that she's super,

[35:19] you know,

[35:20] Shakespearean trained British actress and she's just,

[35:24] well,

[35:24] go for these things.

[35:26] Like,

[35:26] I just,

[35:27] I thought she was great in Nanny McPhee.

[35:29] I,

[35:29] you know,

[35:30] like the,

[35:30] just the,

[35:31] the way she embraced like the bad teeth thing.

[35:33] Like,

[35:34] she just,

[35:34] she just doesn't go there.

Dan McCoy

[35:35] She did Shakespeare and stuff through like,

[35:38] you know,

[35:38] she was with Kenneth Branagh and that was kind of her breakthrough to America when,

[35:43] when she did those movies.

[35:44] But like,

[35:44] she started out doing sketch comedy.

[35:46] Like she has a comedy background and she's very funny.

Stuart Wellington

[35:48] That's why she's so good in late night.

[35:50] Your favorite movie.

Dan McCoy

[35:52] God damn.

[35:53] That movie is so bad.

[35:54] Like,

[35:55] I haven't seen it.

[35:56] I like the people involved,

[35:58] but it gets everything wrong about,

[36:00] about working as a late night writer.

[36:03] Dan,

[36:03] you told me you were up,

Elliott Kalan

[36:04] you were up till 4am for a whole week,

[36:06] just updating the goofs section on IMDb about late night.

[36:09] No,

Dan McCoy

[36:09] I just like,

[36:10] I watched it because like around,

[36:12] like it,

[36:12] you know,

[36:13] it showed up on Amazon and just around the daily show office,

[36:16] there was this like quiet buzz among some of the people that are,

[36:18] the writers.

[36:19] Like,

[36:19] have you seen this yet?

[36:20] Have you seen it?

[36:21] Like it was,

[36:22] you know,

[36:22] not since studio 60 on the sunset strip,

[36:24] uh,

[36:25] have,

[36:25] uh,

[36:26] late night writers hate watched a thing.

Elliott Kalan

[36:28] I remember those years when I remember when studio 60 was,

[36:31] was all the rage around those offices.

[36:33] Yeah.

[36:33] That was,

[36:34] that was a fun time.

[36:35] Okay.

[36:35] So M and H or H and M as I'll call them.

[36:38] Cause if you need,

[36:39] if it's stylish,

[36:40] but it's cheap,

[36:41] you know,

[36:42] it's like,

Elliott Kalan

[36:42] you can finally afford style.

[36:44] Thanks to her.

Dan McCoy

[36:45] They tell whether that was genuine or not from Stewart.

[36:48] No,

[36:48] it was not.

Elliott Kalan

[36:48] I don't think so.

[36:49] I think Stewart started off faking a laugh and then started laughing at his own fake laugh.

[36:53] And so it turned genuine.

[36:54] So they go to a literal underground club.

[36:57] It's literally under the ground where fungus is just hanging out all alone.

Stuart Wellington

[37:00] This guy with people filled with human beings,

Elliott Kalan

[37:02] human beings and aliens.

[37:04] These guys that this guy who has been assigned a chaperone because he's a target of assassination is hanging out of the club by himself with no security.

[37:11] And fungus instantly is horn dogging all over M.

[37:14] But then suddenly fungus is all business and he needs to tell H something.

[37:18] But H is like,

[37:18] no,

[37:18] let's come on.

[37:19] Let's dance.

[37:19] And fungus is like,

[37:20] you've changed H.

[37:21] That's when late twins come in.

[37:23] They break dance all over the place.

[37:24] And they shoot this little like assassin missile at fungus and he gets sick.

[37:28] And H,

[37:28] because it's his job to chaperone fungus,

[37:30] puts him in a car and sends him home.

[37:32] And then the car blows up.

[37:33] It's like,

[37:34] you failed at every aspect of the job.

Stuart Wellington

[37:36] Did the car blow up from the thing those guys shot him with?

[37:39] I don't.

[37:39] Or was that just completely unrelated?

Elliott Kalan

[37:41] I couldn't figure it out.

[37:42] And I'm glad you guys had the same question because I was like,

[37:45] maybe I looked away.

Dan McCoy

[37:46] Especially because if it was shot into him,

[37:49] it seems like if it blew up,

[37:50] it should blow him up.

[37:51] But he is intact.

[37:52] He like dies a little bit after that.

[37:55] And the car blows up.

[37:56] I also want to,

[37:57] this is a very small thing that I'm going to talk about now.

[38:00] But like,

[38:00] you know,

[38:01] what,

[38:01] what is this podcast for?

[38:02] If not that,

[38:03] uh,

[38:04] they make a big point in the scripts.

[38:06] Like,

[38:06] like Chris Hensworth is like,

[38:08] uh,

[38:08] vodka cranberry.

[38:09] That's your drink still,

[38:10] right?

[38:10] Vodka cranberry.

[38:11] And he comes back only with champagne from the bar.

[38:16] why would you make a point of having a specific drink?

[38:19] That is like,

[38:20] like vivid red.

[38:21] Why would you do?

[38:22] Anyway,

[38:22] sorry.

[38:23] That was,

Elliott Kalan

[38:24] I'm surprised that Stuart didn't have an issue with that since he works in the

[38:27] liquor trade.

Dan McCoy

[38:28] By the way,

[38:28] that's not listed on the goofs in IMDb.

[38:31] I checked.

[38:31] So if any enterprising listener wants to,

S4

[38:35] what does that mean?

[38:36] You work in the liquor trade?

Stuart Wellington

[38:38] Uh,

[38:38] I own a couple of bars in Brooklyn.

S4

[38:40] Oh,

[38:41] that's right.

Dan McCoy

[38:42] He sails a boat off the Barbary coast.

S4

[38:45] I know you have bars,

[38:47] but like that,

[38:48] that's somehow or another,

[38:49] the phrase in the liquor trade,

[38:51] I,

[38:52] it just sounded so Jack Sparrow.

[38:55] It's like,

[38:55] wait,

[38:56] what do you do?

Stuart Wellington

[38:58] Yeah.

[38:59] Yeah.

[38:59] I hit people on that with coconuts.

[39:02] When you think about it,

Elliott Kalan

[39:03] the black,

[39:03] the black pearl from Pirates of the Caribbean was the original party boat.

[39:06] When you think about it.

[39:07] Yeah.

[39:07] I'm not going to think about it.

Stuart Wellington

[39:10] Okay.

[39:10] I mean,

[39:11] I can't force you to.

[39:12] So,

[39:12] so they,

[39:13] they have like a pretty pro,

[39:14] uh,

[39:15] protracted battle out in the street where our heroes are blasting these two

[39:19] dancing,

[39:20] uh,

[39:20] energy beings.

[39:22] Um,

[39:22] and they just keep pulling guns out of the car.

[39:24] That was pretty cool.

[39:25] It was like a Lego set that turns into guns.

Elliott Kalan

[39:27] That is a funny bit where they keep pulling pieces off of this car to

[39:30] reveal larger and larger laser guns.

[39:32] Uh,

[39:33] and I will say,

[39:35] I will say there,

[39:36] I did have an issue with the scene where the two men in black,

[39:38] they,

[39:38] they start this off with,

[39:40] uh,

[39:40] at gunpoint telling these two men of color to get down on the ground and

[39:43] get their hands on the ground.

[39:44] And I was like,

[39:45] not good optics for right now,

[39:47] men in black international.

[39:49] But once you know that they can blow up the ground with their hands,

[39:51] then it's like,

[39:53] okay,

[39:53] this is not a,

[39:54] this is not a fair fight.

[39:55] They are energy beings.

S4

[39:56] It is interesting how these things age,

[39:59] you know,

[39:59] in,

[39:59] in light of,

[40:01] well,

[40:01] first of all,

[40:02] I'm saying this as a white person who wasn't always thinking about this

[40:07] at top of mind for sure.

[40:09] But,

[40:10] uh,

[40:10] in men in black three,

[40:11] Will Smith is stopped because two police officers don't know.

[40:17] he's back in 1969 and he stopped because they can't believe a black man would be driving an expensive car and own it and it wouldn't be stolen.

[40:26] And he says something like,

[40:29] when don't stop black men for driving nice cars or whatever.

[40:32] And,

[40:33] you know,

[40:33] like my,

[40:34] my,

[40:34] uh,

[40:35] I just sort of,

[40:36] my heart stopped for a minute.

[40:38] And,

[40:38] you know,

[40:39] I mean,

[40:40] of course,

[40:41] I,

[40:41] again,

[40:42] like I,

[40:43] that,

[40:43] that wasn't top of,

[40:45] it would be top of mind for many other viewers always.

[40:48] But,

[40:48] uh,

[40:49] it is a strange,

[40:50] uh,

[40:52] um,

[40:53] thing.

[40:53] I think how much,

[40:54] and this is to be seen in the future,

[40:56] our times we're living in will affect how,

[40:59] you know,

[41:00] depictions of,

[41:01] of,

[41:01] of entertainment.

[41:02] It'll be interesting to see the entertainment that emerges.

[41:06] I feel like we're in such a transformative time.

[41:09] It's going to be interesting to see what comes out of this.

Stuart Wellington

[41:13] It must be really tough to be an entertainment executive and have to be like,

[41:17] Oh no,

[41:18] are we going to accidentally make people mad because we had this scene in the Mandalorian where baby Yoda's just jacking it.

[41:25] I mean,

Elliott Kalan

[41:26] that's that I haven't seen season two yet or season one.

[41:29] Does that happen?

[41:30] Or I mean,

[41:30] it might happen,

[41:32] Elliot.

[41:32] I haven't watched season two yet.

[41:34] I mean,

[41:34] I guess when baby Yoda becomes adolescent Yoda,

Stuart Wellington

[41:36] it was probably fine when it,

[41:38] when they made it,

[41:38] but maybe in the future opinions might change.

[41:41] You never know.

S4

[41:42] Uh,

[41:42] no,

[41:43] I,

[41:43] I just actually,

[41:44] I can't even believe I'm just saying this.

[41:46] I just had a kickoff call on a script.

[41:49] I'm writing with our network.

[41:50] And I forgot to ask,

[41:52] uh,

[41:53] what universe we're in,

[41:55] in terms of COVID,

[41:57] not COVID,

[41:58] COVID,

[41:59] post COVID.

[42:00] I,

[42:00] I've got to call the producers on Monday.

[42:05] I,

[42:06] you know,

[42:06] how,

[42:07] how do you just not deal with that?

Elliott Kalan

[42:09] Yeah.

[42:09] It's hard.

[42:10] It's hard.

[42:10] Like the show I'm working on now,

[42:11] it's an animated show,

[42:12] so it's not going to be on the air until spring of next year.

[42:14] And like,

[42:15] we were just like,

[42:16] okay,

[42:17] that for the purposes of this show,

[42:18] it's just what,

[42:20] what life used to be like.

[42:21] Yeah.

[42:22] And hopefully it'll be like that again.

[42:23] Like I,

[42:23] I wrote an episode where it's 4th of July at the beach and there's just a ton of people around.

[42:28] And it was like,

[42:29] all right,

[42:30] okay.

[42:30] I'm not like,

[42:31] uh,

[42:31] I just have to pretend this is in an alternate universe where COVID is not keeping things like that from happening.

Stuart Wellington

[42:36] Oh,

[42:36] so you're not like writing characters like so-and-so's name and then in,

[42:40] in parentheses,

[42:41] wearing a mask.

Elliott Kalan

[42:43] Yeah,

[42:43] no,

[42:43] 30s,

[42:46] sassy and clever wearing a mask.

[42:48] Like that's all the,

Dan McCoy

[42:49] all the characters.

[42:50] All right.

[42:50] Well,

[42:50] I'm sure that all the listeners are interested in this non men in black insight baseball,

[42:54] but what's going on in the movie?

Elliott Kalan

[42:56] All right.

[42:56] So anyway,

[42:57] a bunch of men in black guys show up,

[42:58] but,

[42:59] and stop these energy beings,

[43:00] but not until Vungus tells M secretly that something is wrong at the men in black and gives her a crystal device.

[43:06] And then he dies.

[43:07] And she goes,

[43:07] what is this?

[43:08] the only thing that can save you or something like that.

[43:11] And a ton of,

[43:12] ton of agents show up and the energy dudes disappear.

Dan McCoy

[43:15] Could I just say,

[43:16] uh,

[43:17] just a little lesson to,

[43:18] I just want to,

[43:19] you know,

[43:20] for people in movies who are about to die,

[43:24] you know,

[43:25] maybe take a lot of them.

Elliott Kalan

[43:26] A lot of them will hear this.

[43:28] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[43:28] Yeah.

[43:29] Take,

[43:29] take my correspondence course,

[43:30] which is what to say when you're about to die,

[43:34] which is not something cryptic.

[43:36] It's a bit like,

[43:36] that's the,

[43:37] I,

[43:38] to boil down my course to one sentence,

[43:40] don't say something cryptic.

Elliott Kalan

[43:41] No,

[43:42] you want to say something like check,

[43:43] please.

[43:44] And then die.

[43:44] Like something memorable.

[43:46] Hilarious.

S4

[43:46] What should a character say?

[43:48] I'd like to hear this.

[43:49] No,

[43:50] I mean like the,

Dan McCoy

[43:52] say,

[43:53] uh,

[43:54] the horde has infiltrated,

[43:56] uh,

[43:57] men in black.

[43:57] Use this,

[43:58] the hive,

[44:00] use this to kill them.

Elliott Kalan

[44:01] The horde from She-Ra,

[44:03] princess of power.

[44:04] Or,

[44:04] or split.

Dan McCoy

[44:06] The point is,

[44:07] you know,

[44:07] actually give instructions.

[44:08] Explain why you were giving this to them and give instructions.

[44:11] Don't just be like,

[44:12] this is the only thing to keep you safe.

[44:15] I will not hand over the instruction booklet that's also in my other pocket.

[44:20] Like,

Stuart Wellington

[44:20] yeah.

[44:20] It's possible that character has been a dungeon master in role playing games and it's like,

Dan McCoy

[44:25] I don't want to railroad you so I won't tell you what to do.

Elliott Kalan

[44:29] Well,

[44:30] it's,

[44:30] it's similar to that.

[44:31] I would like movie characters who are,

[44:33] uh,

[44:35] telling,

[44:35] revealing,

[44:36] uh,

[44:37] big secrets to also do that similarly where it's like,

[44:39] yes,

[44:40] you know,

[44:40] if this movie was about someone finding out there's aliens and a government agent is like,

[44:43] this goes farther than you think.

[44:45] There's a bigger world out there.

[44:46] Just tell me there's a bunch of aliens.

[44:48] Like,

[44:48] just tell me the thing you wanted to tell me.

[44:50] You know,

Dan McCoy

[44:50] or if you're like having like a romantic argument,

[44:53] don't just be like,

[44:54] Catherine,

[44:55] Catherine,

[44:55] wait,

[44:56] Catherine,

[44:57] Catherine,

[44:57] be like,

[44:58] Hey,

[44:58] I didn't sleep with her.

[44:59] Like she was my cousin.

[45:00] Like,

[45:01] or like whatever the fucking dumb romantic complication is.

[45:05] Don't just be like,

[45:06] but if you'll just give me,

[45:07] but can you,

Elliott Kalan

[45:08] but you're saying don't waste time saying I can explain.

[45:11] Just say the explanation.

[45:12] Just say the thing.

[45:13] Just tell them that you were rehearsing for a play.

[45:15] Anyway,

[45:16] so exactly.

Stuart Wellington

[45:17] I don't think it's Catherine's fault though.

[45:18] I mean,

[45:19] you left the door unlocked.

[45:20] It was a really weird situation.

[45:21] Like the lights were low and you had that one,

[45:23] that one thing.

[45:23] I'm not going to re litigate this with you,

[45:25] Stefan.

Dan McCoy

[45:26] Or Stefan.

[45:27] Stuart.

Stuart Wellington

[45:28] Why'd I call you Stefan?

Elliott Kalan

[45:29] My other friend who starts with an S T.

[45:32] Stefan is your pet name for Sue.

[45:33] I mean,

[45:33] you haven't known each other that long.

[45:35] It's only been what,

[45:35] about 25 years.

Stuart Wellington

[45:36] My new erotic fiction,

[45:38] uh,

[45:38] writing.

[45:41] But same last name,

[45:42] right?

[45:42] Still Stefan Wellington.

[45:43] I'm,

[45:44] I'm throwing people off the scent because they'd be like,

[45:46] if Stuart actually had a pen name,

[45:49] he would probably change the last name.

[45:50] So this can't be him.

Elliott Kalan

[45:52] And what kind of erotic fan fiction is it?

[45:54] Fictions?

[45:54] This is dinosaur fiction,

[45:55] swamp monster fiction,

[45:56] that kind of stuff.

[45:57] Caveman.

Stuart Wellington

[45:57] I mean,

[45:58] it's,

[45:58] to be honest,

[45:59] it's mainly,

[45:59] uh,

[46:00] it's like slice of life stuff.

[46:01] And it's a lot of,

[46:02] it's mainly misunderstandings.

[46:03] There's actually no erotic stuff happening.

S4

[46:06] No,

[46:06] I think,

[46:07] uh,

[46:07] Stefan Wellington writes Twilight fan fiction.

[46:10] Oh,

Stuart Wellington

[46:11] wow.

[46:12] And maybe it could be about,

[46:14] say,

[46:15] like a young woman who starts,

[46:18] uh,

[46:18] gets a job working for like a high powered rich guy.

[46:22] Yeah.

[46:22] And BDSM is involved.

[46:24] Maybe.

[46:25] We'll figure it out.

[46:26] I'm still working on it.

Elliott Kalan

[46:27] No,

[46:27] sorry,

[46:28] Stuart.

[46:28] It's called Shop Girl by Steve Martin.

[46:29] It's been written already.

[46:30] So anyway.

Dan McCoy

[46:31] Also,

[46:31] Stuart,

[46:32] you miss,

[46:32] you,

[46:32] you mispronounced slice of drive.

[46:34] Oh,

[46:35] I assume you're writing slice of drive.

[46:37] That's a call back to what the,

Elliott Kalan

[46:39] what the,

[46:39] that was a,

[46:39] a different Hemsworth who did that episode,

[46:41] who has did that movie,

[46:42] right?

[46:42] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[46:43] I have no,

[46:44] I have no recollection.

[46:45] I just remember that.

[46:45] We did it.

[46:46] We did a movie about a,

Elliott Kalan

[46:47] where that was,

[46:47] I think a Liam Hemsworth vehicle that Richard Dreyfuss was in,

[46:50] in which we pitched a movie called slice,

[46:52] slice of drive,

[46:53] where it's just Richard Dreyfuss's normal life.

[46:55] Okay.

[46:55] So back at HQ,

[46:57] there's an agency who hates agent H and he's like,

[47:02] yeah.

[47:02] you and M should be fired.

[47:03] And T is like,

[47:04] no,

[47:05] no,

[47:05] the hive might be involved in this.

[47:06] And M trying to think fast to save their jobs is like,

[47:09] I think there might be a mole in the men in black and H and meat.

[47:13] And they're like,

[47:14] okay,

[47:14] C,

[47:15] you and M work together.

[47:16] H you're on probation.

[47:17] And H is like,

[47:18] got it.

[47:18] And then walks over to C and M is like,

[47:19] I'm in charge.

[47:20] M come with me.

[47:21] I think you're right about this.

Stuart Wellington

[47:22] You're doing this summary and just listing their,

[47:25] the first letter of the names feels like I'm reading a Reddit.

[47:28] Am I the asshole thread?

[47:31] Yeah.

[47:32] We might have to use their actor names.

[47:33] I also want to say rapes ball.

Dan McCoy

[47:35] I found very funny in this and I liked him and Hemsworth's back and forth.

[47:39] I thought he was always good.

S4

[47:40] He's when is he not great?

[47:42] He's just like an original human being.

[47:46] It was so much fun to watch,

[47:48] you know,

[47:49] or a small,

[47:50] a large,

[47:51] a very large hamster.

Dan McCoy

[47:52] Oh yeah.

[47:53] Either,

[47:53] either of the two.

Elliott Kalan

[47:55] Oh,

[47:55] you know what?

[47:55] And I forgot.

[47:56] He was also in another flop house movie,

[47:57] Jurassic world fallen kingdom.

[47:58] So anyway,

[47:59] this is second for rave's ball.

[48:01] So we've got a lot of,

[48:02] we don't have a lot of seconds at this one.

[48:04] So where are heroes going to go?

[48:06] Marrakesh.

[48:07] They've got to find the people who made the weapon that killed Vungus first.

[48:11] I don't know why they stop off at a guy who has an alien that he wears as a beard and

[48:15] they're fixing the hover bike.

Stuart Wellington

[48:16] Played by Nandor from what we do in the shadows.

[48:19] The guy who plays Nandor.

[48:20] Oh,

Elliott Kalan

[48:20] right.

[48:20] That's who that is.

[48:21] I knew I recognized him and I,

[48:23] yeah.

Dan McCoy

[48:24] I did enjoy a scene where the alien was annoying him and he just keeps slapping his own beard.

Elliott Kalan

[48:30] Yeah.

[48:30] That's,

[48:31] it's,

[48:31] but it was like,

[48:32] it was,

[48:32] it was just a,

[48:33] I don't know why they made that stop.

[48:34] I don't understand.

[48:35] I guess they,

[48:36] maybe they had to find out information from him.

[48:38] They go to the workshop.

[48:39] They find that all of these little aliens have been murdered by the energy beings.

[48:43] We assume all that's left is one tiny little pawn played by,

[48:46] uh,

[48:47] voiced by Kumail Nanjiani.

[48:49] Uh,

[48:49] like many of the aliens in the movies,

[48:51] he is both unaware of certain earth customs and very aware of earth pop culture.

[48:56] So he knows all about like the movie,

[48:58] the notebook,

[48:58] but he doesn't seem to understand that women in most earth cultures are not monarchs that need,

[49:04] uh,

[49:05] vassals,

[49:05] you know?

Stuart Wellington

[49:06] Yeah.

[49:06] It's,

[49:06] it's the laziest kind of character,

[49:09] character like description where they're like,

[49:11] we're going to give this character a little bit,

[49:13] but it's mainly going to be a joke delivery system,

[49:15] which I mean,

[49:16] if you're going to get Kumail Nanjiani,

[49:18] he's going to be good at it at least.

[49:19] He's going to be good at it.

Elliott Kalan

[49:19] I mean,

[49:20] he,

[49:20] he's the movie's alph,

[49:21] I guess,

[49:22] where it's like,

[49:22] I don't understand these human customs.

[49:24] Let me tell you about Richard Gere,

[49:25] you know?

Dan McCoy

[49:26] And he looks,

[49:26] he looks,

[49:27] I mean,

[49:27] he's smaller,

[49:28] but he looks a little bit like a,

[49:29] a Babu Frick,

[49:30] except for he talks like Kumail Nanjiani instead of like,

[49:33] Hey,

[49:33] it's me,

[49:34] Babu Frick.

Elliott Kalan

[49:35] No,

[49:35] no,

[49:35] Babu,

[49:35] Babu Frick was such a,

[49:37] it was such an original wonder.

[49:38] He was,

[49:38] he was so great.

[49:39] He made no pop culture references.

[49:41] Cause of course that was the star Wars universe,

[49:42] but he was Babu Frick.

[49:43] As I said,

[49:44] my second favorite character from that movie after the chimp with a Cyclops

[49:47] visor,

[49:48] who fixes Kylo Ren's helmet.

[49:50] Anyway,

[49:51] if there was a Babu Frick chimp with Cyclops visor spinoff,

[49:57] I'd watch that for sure.

[49:58] So H convinces the pawn,

[50:01] you should be,

[50:02] M should be your new queen because for some reason we've decided we want you

[50:06] with us.

[50:07] And H reveals that he took the crystal device that Vungus had given to M

[50:12] because I forgot to mention M had handed it over to the men in black to,

[50:16] for safekeeping.

Dan McCoy

[50:17] It's a MacGuffin.

[50:18] It's just,

[50:18] you know,

[50:19] she's got a crystal MacGuffin in her pocket.

Elliott Kalan

[50:22] Mm.

[50:22] Uh,

[50:23] just like that.

[50:23] Uh,

Dan McCoy

[50:23] my name is crystal MacGuffin.

Elliott Kalan

[50:26] Let me,

[50:27] I'm a,

[50:27] I'm,

[50:28] let me just get into your pocket for a moment.

[50:29] This is what I do professionally.

[50:30] It's okay.

[50:32] Uh,

[50:32] suddenly,

[50:33] uh,

[50:34] C is like,

[50:34] I don't trust those guys.

[50:35] And he sends a team of agents to Marrakesh to catch our heroes.

[50:38] Then the energy aliens show up leading to perhaps if I was going to

[50:42] describe hover bike chase through the Marrakesh street market,

[50:46] you would imagine something pretty fun.

[50:48] It is fairly lackluster.

[50:50] It is,

[50:50] it does not do great by the long,

[50:52] uh,

[50:53] tradition of Arab street market,

[50:55] uh,

[50:55] chase scenes.

[50:56] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[50:57] Can I briefly say the,

[50:58] the action of the movie,

[50:59] not,

[51:00] not very good as a rule.

[51:01] I do think that the effects are fun.

[51:05] Usually like it,

[51:06] it looks pretty good.

[51:07] It's a fun,

[51:07] it looks fine.

[51:09] It's in the men in black zany alien universe.

[51:12] And none of it looks bad.

[51:15] With that in mind,

Stuart Wellington

[51:17] Annabelle,

[51:18] how did you feel about the action and the special effects in men in black

[51:21] three,

[51:21] a movie that I have not seen yet.

S4

[51:25] I felt very mad about it.

[51:27] I mean,

[51:28] I just,

[51:28] I just felt like,

[51:29] I mean,

[51:29] the funny thing is,

[51:30] is there's a motorbike chase that is not that exciting in men in black.

[51:35] Three.

Stuart Wellington

[51:35] It echoes.

[51:37] It echoes through time.

S4

[51:38] It reverberates through time.

[51:41] It's like somewhere in time.

[51:43] And it's like,

[51:45] it's,

[51:46] it's,

[51:46] you know,

[51:48] they're just,

[51:48] it's just not,

[51:50] It just,

[51:51] it's not popping for me,

[51:53] you know,

[51:54] just,

[51:55] it,

[51:56] it,

[51:56] it just all paled from the first men in black,

[51:59] which just seemed to have some real spark of like something fresh to that universe,

[52:06] to that universe of films,

[52:07] to that genre.

Stuart Wellington

[52:07] And it had Barry Sonnenfeld at the helm,

[52:10] right?

[52:11] He,

[52:11] he did this.

[52:12] He did the second one too,

Elliott Kalan

[52:13] I think.

[52:13] Uh huh.

[52:14] I don't know if he did it.

[52:14] But like that,

[52:15] that first movie,

[52:16] it was like,

[52:16] they really did that premise,

[52:19] right?

[52:19] And they found all these like different ways to have fun with it.

[52:22] And they,

[52:22] it was like,

[52:23] they squeezed all the juice.

Stuart Wellington

[52:24] Vincent D'Onofrio delivers like an all timer performance.

Elliott Kalan

[52:27] I mean,

[52:28] you're not going to get a better villain than Vincent D'Onofrio playing a dead body with a cockroach alien inside of it.

[52:33] And he moves so well as if he's a dead body.

[52:35] Like he's so good.

S4

[52:37] He'd do that in his sleep.

[52:39] Yeah.

[52:39] That's.

[52:41] It just leaves you wishing it was better.

[52:44] And that,

[52:45] that's the most dissatisfying kind of movie.

[52:48] I checked it.

Dan McCoy

[52:49] Barry saw,

[52:50] Barry Sonnenfeld did all of the men in blacks.

[52:53] I think that we forget,

[52:54] like he came onto the scene really,

[52:56] really strongly,

[52:57] which,

[52:58] uh,

[52:59] means that we forget that he also has done a lot of terrible stuff.

[53:02] Like he did the,

[53:03] like he came onto the scene,

[53:04] did the Adams family movies.

[53:06] He did get shorty.

[53:06] He did men in black,

[53:07] but he also did wild,

[53:10] wild west,

[53:10] big trouble,

[53:11] men in black too.

[53:13] Uh,

[53:14] the,

[53:15] the cat movie with the nine lives.

[53:17] Like he's,

[53:18] he's been on a pretty big downward slide for a while,

[53:22] unfortunately.

[53:24] Cause I did like a lot of his early movies quite a bit.

Stuart Wellington

[53:27] Yeah.

[53:27] I just watched Adams family values the other night.

[53:29] It's amazing.

Elliott Kalan

[53:30] It's great.

[53:30] That's a great sequel to a great,

[53:32] great original.

Stuart Wellington

[53:33] I mean,

[53:33] get shorty is a lot of fun.

Elliott Kalan

[53:34] Get shorty is fantastic.

[53:35] That's a movie.

[53:36] Get shorty is a movie I could watch.

[53:37] I think every single day that I would enjoy it every single time.

[53:42] What a good movie.

[53:42] We should do it.

[53:43] We should do an episode about get shorty and how good it is.

[53:45] Uh huh.

[53:46] I mean,

[53:47] we could do a good movie.

[53:48] I would actually watch that.

[53:53] So,

[53:53] uh,

[53:54] so our heroes managed to escape,

[53:55] uh,

[53:56] cause they use the hyper drive on the hover bike and not as exciting.

Dan McCoy

[53:59] This movie.

[54:00] Wait,

[54:00] there's more.

[54:01] Oh,

Elliott Kalan

[54:01] there's,

[54:01] there's more.

[54:02] Yeah.

[54:02] We have not reached the end yet.

[54:04] No.

[54:04] Uh,

[54:05] they end up in the desert.

[54:06] They smash the bike.

[54:07] They find out that the crystal is actually a super gun powered by a blue dwarf star.

[54:12] Uh,

[54:12] it's disappointing that it just turns out to be a big gun,

[54:14] but it's a very powerful gun.

[54:16] It blows a big chasm in the desert.

[54:18] Meanwhile,

Stuart Wellington

[54:18] I can only imagine the like environmental repercussions that making a giant chasm in the desert is

[54:22] going to cause for the local like ecosystem.

Elliott Kalan

[54:25] Oh,

[54:25] it's,

[54:26] I mean,

[54:26] it's already a desert.

[54:27] So,

[54:27] but I'm sure there are life forms there.

[54:28] You know,

[54:29] it's,

[54:29] uh,

[54:29] it's life finds a way as was said in the movie.

Stuart Wellington

[54:32] Well,

[54:32] just by kicking up all that debris into the atmosphere,

[54:34] like it's going to cause some problems,

[54:36] you know?

Elliott Kalan

[54:36] Oh,

[54:36] that's true.

[54:37] It'll block out.

[54:37] It'll,

[54:37] it'll be a year without us,

[54:39] without a summer and crops will fail all around the globe.

[54:41] Yeah.

[54:41] I liked,

Dan McCoy

[54:42] I liked the,

[54:43] I liked that goof that I don't,

[54:46] the Jurassic Park one where like someone,

[54:48] the goof was like,

[54:50] you know,

[54:50] Dr.

[54:50] Malcolm says life finds a way.

[54:52] This is not chaos theory.

[54:54] And if that was an explanation,

[54:55] nothing would be extinct.

[54:58] Yeah,

[54:58] you're right.

[54:59] It's a dumb line.

[55:00] Really?

[55:00] When you think about it,

Stuart Wellington

[55:01] that's true.

[55:02] Uh,

[55:02] so delivered by Jeff Goldblum.

[55:04] So it's hard.

[55:05] Yeah,

[55:05] exactly.

[55:05] You know?

[55:06] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[55:07] So H is like,

[55:08] why did Vungus give you that weapon and not me?

[55:10] And M is like,

[55:10] Vungus said you changed H.

[55:12] The beard alien from earlier shows up,

[55:14] steals her crystal weapon and flies off.

[55:16] Uh,

[55:16] and H is like,

[55:17] well,

[55:17] there's only one place that beard alien is going to take the weapon.

[55:20] To my ex-girlfriend,

[55:21] intergalactic arms dealer,

[55:23] RZA Stavros,

[55:24] the merchant of death.

Stuart Wellington

[55:25] And when they kept talking about RZA,

[55:27] and I'm like,

[55:28] he was dating Bobby Digital?

[55:29] Ha ha ha.

Elliott Kalan

[55:31] I mean,

[55:32] that would have been amazing.

[55:33] I would have liked that a lot.

[55:34] Uh,

[55:35] and M admits that Molly admits she's never been in love.

[55:37] Where are they going to go?

[55:38] To RZA's island fortress off the coast of Naples.

[55:41] Uh,

[55:42] this is when you're like,

[55:43] okay,

[55:43] so they just wanted to,

[55:44] they wanted to go to pretty places to,

[55:46] to go to hang out and shoot movies.

[55:47] Actually,

S4

[55:47] I mean,

[55:47] one thing about this movie,

[55:49] I actually feel like maybe I should just watch it with the sound off just to see places.

[55:54] Oh yeah.

[55:56] I've gotten kind of hooked right now on binge watching shows that take place in,

[56:02] in,

[56:02] uh,

[56:03] remote locations in England.

[56:05] Uh huh.

[56:06] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[56:07] I,

[56:08] I will say that I did have the thought while watching this movie,

[56:10] I'm like,

[56:11] maybe I'm being more easy on this movie because it is being men in black international.

[56:15] They are traveling the world.

[56:17] well,

[56:17] that's the thing I can't do right now.

[56:18] So yeah,

[56:19] it's fun to watch.

[56:21] I mean,

Elliott Kalan

[56:21] cause at home,

[56:22] right now you're just catching aliens and blanking up people's memories in your apartment.

[56:25] You really miss doing that in other places.

Dan McCoy

[56:27] Just walking into the bathroom and being like,

[56:29] okay,

[56:30] all the aliens come out.

Stuart Wellington

[56:32] I think everybody here would like to sign up to be neuralized for 2020.

[56:36] You know what I mean?

[56:37] Ugh.

[56:38] Get this year wiped out of our heads,

[56:39] right?

[56:40] You know what I mean?

[56:41] Yeah,

Elliott Kalan

[56:41] you're right,

[56:42] Stu.

[56:42] Anyway,

[56:42] so,

[56:43] uh,

[56:43] long story short,

[56:44] uh,

[56:44] it is not,

[56:45] uh,

[56:45] the hip hop legend RZA that they are going to see.

[56:48] But of course,

[56:48] RZA Stavros played by,

[56:50] uh,

[56:52] And she is like,

[56:53] they,

[56:53] they try to sneak into her fortress.

[56:55] H tries to charm her way in.

[56:56] They both get caught,

[56:57] uh,

[56:58] and they're fighting each other.

[57:00] And then it turns out that the alien thug that H is fighting,

[57:03] who works for RZA,

[57:05] it's the same alien that Molly helped escape when she was a little girl.

[57:09] And so he helps them get the star gun crystal weapon back from RZA.

[57:13] It is.

Stuart Wellington

[57:14] You glossed over RZA's three armed fighting technique,

[57:17] which was pretty cool.

[57:18] Kind of like,

[57:19] uh,

[57:19] like Shiva from the Mortal Kombat movie.

[57:21] That's true.

[57:22] She,

[57:22] or,

[57:22] games.

[57:23] Yeah.

[57:24] Or,

[57:24] or,

[57:24] they're so advanced,

[57:25] you know,

[57:25] the graphics are so killer.

Elliott Kalan

[57:27] Or,

[57:27] or spiral from the,

[57:28] uh,

[57:28] from the X-Men comics.

[57:29] But it's,

[57:29] I also,

[57:30] it was the kind of movie where I feel like both Tessa Thompson and the movie kept forgetting that RZA has three arms.

[57:35] And then she'd suddenly remember and use it to fight with.

Dan McCoy

[57:37] I did like the,

[57:39] the line though,

[57:39] that,

[57:40] uh,

[57:40] you didn't mention here where,

[57:41] uh,

[57:42] uh,

[57:42] I can't,

[57:43] I can't reenact the whole movie.

[57:44] No,

[57:45] no,

[57:45] no.

[57:45] I gotta skip some of the dialogue.

[57:46] I'm just specifying that,

[57:47] uh,

[57:48] Tessa Thompson,

[57:48] uh,

[57:49] you know,

[57:49] like,

[57:50] says back to the alien,

[57:52] the thing that the alien said in alien language when she was young to be like,

[57:56] oh,

[57:56] I'm the same.

[57:57] And she's like,

[57:57] he's like,

[57:58] what?

[57:58] And she asks what it is at a certain afterwards.

[58:02] oh,

[58:02] it means,

[58:03] uh,

[58:03] I will.

[58:04] Thank you.

[58:05] I will kill whoever you want me to,

[58:07] you know,

[58:07] protracted and violent manner or something like that.

[58:10] Yeah.

[58:10] Whenever you ask me,

[58:11] I'm like,

[58:11] that's hilarious.

[58:12] That,

[58:13] that was the promise he made to this young girl that she didn't understand.

Elliott Kalan

[58:17] So that the joke I laughed at during the movie was when Tessa wants to drive a car.

[58:21] She wants to drive the car.

[58:22] And Chris Hemsworth is like,

[58:23] I'm going to drive.

[58:24] And Tessa Thompson races ahead of him and gets into what in America would be the driver's side seat.

[58:28] And then is actually the passenger side seat.

[58:30] Cause they're in England.

[58:31] I was like,

[58:31] that's a funny joke.

[58:32] I like that.

[58:32] I like it.

[58:33] Um,

[58:34] so anyway,

[58:35] uh,

[58:35] H and M they're now friends.

[58:36] They tell each other their first names.

[58:38] I don't remember what H's first name was.

[58:40] Uh,

[58:40] but then the hive show up.

[58:41] Oh,

[58:42] it's those energy aliens.

[58:43] And they want that weapon.

[58:44] And Chris Hemsworth gives a speech.

[58:45] He's like,

[58:45] we'll do whatever it takes to keep our planet safe.

[58:47] And the aliens go,

[58:48] we will too.

[58:49] That's when the MIB agents show up and blow up the energy aliens.

[58:52] They're not in the movie anymore.

[58:54] And,

[58:54] uh,

[58:54] Molly gives tea,

[58:55] Liam Neeson,

[58:56] the crystal,

[58:57] but there's still 20 some odd minutes left in the movie.

[58:59] So we know the day hasn't been saved yet.

[59:01] What's going to happen?

Dan McCoy

[59:02] We also know the movie's not over.

[59:03] Cause we haven't,

[59:04] we've seen movies before.

[59:05] And like,

[59:06] when we're watching this,

[59:07] Audrey's like,

[59:08] do you think Liam Neeson's going to turn out to be the bad guy?

[59:11] And like,

[59:11] this is before all,

[59:13] like,

[59:13] I'm like,

[59:14] I,

[59:14] the moment Liam Neeson came on screen,

[59:16] I'm like,

[59:16] he's the bad guy.

[59:17] Like before we knew there was a mole in the men in black,

[59:21] this is the bad guy.

Elliott Kalan

[59:22] It's a real Ed Harrison geostorm situation.

Stuart Wellington

[59:25] Yeah.

[59:25] Unless,

[59:26] unless Liam Neeson's family's taken,

[59:27] he's probably the bad guy.

[59:29] Unless there's wolves in the movie,

[59:31] Liam Neeson's probably the bad guy.

Elliott Kalan

[59:33] How disappointing was that movie?

[59:36] That in the trailers,

[59:37] they made a big deal out of him breaking those airplane mini bottles and strapped them to his knuckles so he could fight a wolf.

[59:42] And that's the last minute of the movie.

[59:44] Like that's the end of the movie.

[59:47] What a disappointment.

[59:48] I was like,

[59:48] this movie is going to be fun.

[59:49] And that's,

[59:50] it's these guys dying slowly in the winter.

[59:52] And then finally he fights a wolf.

[59:54] Anyway,

[59:55] it happens off camera.

Stuart Wellington

[59:56] It's like,

[59:57] meet Joe Black.

[59:58] Like you meet him pretty early on,

[59:59] right?

[59:59] And then you're like,

[1:00:00] fuck it.

[1:00:01] Do I have to watch the rest of the movie now?

Elliott Kalan

[1:00:05] So they're,

[1:00:05] they're back at MIB HQ.

[1:00:07] That's a lot of letters.

[1:00:08] Everyone's celebrating,

[1:00:09] but M and H suspect something is up.

[1:00:10] And they and C realize that T is a mole.

[1:00:13] More letters,

[1:00:13] guys.

[1:00:14] And that he was actually,

[1:00:15] and that he's planning to give the star gun to the hive.

[1:00:18] And H is like,

[1:00:19] if everyone knows that T has betrayed the men in black,

[1:00:22] he's the most decorated men in black agent.

[1:00:23] It would ruin morale.

[1:00:25] So just let me.

Stuart Wellington

[1:00:25] Cause you're like,

[1:00:26] what about Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones from the earlier movies?

[1:00:29] Exactly.

Elliott Kalan

[1:00:30] Exactly.

[1:00:31] So maybe they don't exist in this reality.

[1:00:33] So he and M go to Paris.

[1:00:35] And M.

[1:00:36] I feel like I've been neural,

Stuart Wellington

[1:00:36] the previous movies have been neuralized out of my head,

[1:00:39] you know?

Elliott Kalan

[1:00:39] And Tessa Thompson helps Chris Hemsworth realize he didn't stop the hive years ago.

[1:00:43] He was neuralized by T when T got taken over by the hive.

[1:00:47] And they confront T and he's just a bad guy now.

[1:00:50] And he opens a portal for the hive and he turns into a big tentacle monster.

[1:00:53] And they fight.

[1:00:54] And Molly gets knocked into the portal.

[1:00:56] And then Camille Nanjiani's pawn character,

[1:00:58] they remember he's there.

[1:00:59] He saves her.

[1:01:00] And H is like,

[1:01:01] T,

[1:01:01] I know there's still a man in there.

[1:01:03] Give me the weapon.

[1:01:03] Help me save the day.

[1:01:04] You said I was like a son to you.

[1:01:06] And T,

[1:01:07] in a moment of humanity,

[1:01:08] gives the crystal weapon back to H.

[1:01:09] And Molly repays this moment of humanity by using that gun to blow the shit out of Liam Neeson.

[1:01:15] And then,

[1:01:15] and the laser just goes through the wormhole and I think destroys the hive planet.

[1:01:19] So she's committed genocide in this last minute,

[1:01:22] you know?

[1:01:22] Well,

Dan McCoy

[1:01:22] yeah.

[1:01:22] And I also assumed like when you showed that moment of humanity,

[1:01:25] I'm like,

[1:01:25] oh,

[1:01:25] she's going to shoot into the portal and Liam Neeson is going to be released.

[1:01:29] But no,

[1:01:30] yeah.

[1:01:30] She blasts Liam Neeson.

[1:01:31] Shot right through him.

[1:01:33] Okay.

[1:01:33] So,

S4

[1:01:33] cause I'm never going to see this movie.

[1:01:36] Never,

[1:01:37] ever.

[1:01:37] Not in this lifetime.

[1:01:38] Unless pandemic goes on.

[1:01:41] Okay.

[1:01:41] I might see it next week.

[1:01:42] Okay.

[1:01:42] So wait a minute.

[1:01:44] Um,

[1:01:44] I just need to know what happens when Liam Neeson is revealed to be the alien.

[1:01:50] Is it like a total alien creature or is it part Liam Neeson,

[1:01:54] part alien?

[1:01:55] Cause I did a movie once where I turned into an alien and I hadn't made the script entirely.

[1:02:01] And so I didn't realize that it was like me turning into the alien until the day they,

[1:02:06] we showed up and they're like,

[1:02:08] okay,

[1:02:08] what's your best alien voice?

[1:02:10] And I was like,

[1:02:11] huh?

[1:02:12] I read this only with my character name.

[1:02:14] I never read the part where I turned.

[1:02:16] I didn't realize I was the alien.

[1:02:18] I was such an idiot.

Stuart Wellington

[1:02:19] So you've had all this time.

[1:02:21] You're going to,

[1:02:22] this is the day.

[1:02:22] Is this going to be the debut of that alien voice?

[1:02:24] Are you going to give a,

[1:02:25] give us a taste?

S4

[1:02:26] Okay.

[1:02:27] So yeah,

[1:02:27] it was a Roger Corman movie.

[1:02:29] Let me just put it that way.

[1:02:31] Oh yeah.

[1:02:32] Really excellent.

[1:02:34] And in order to turn into the alien,

[1:02:39] I had to disrobe.

[1:02:40] So the alien could come out.

Elliott Kalan

[1:02:43] Cause the alien couldn't get through clothes.

[1:02:45] It was a,

[1:02:45] I guess a powerful alien,

[1:02:46] but clothes were a problem.

S4

[1:02:48] So powerful that my clothes had to come.

[1:02:51] It was a Roger Corman movie.

[1:02:54] And so,

[1:02:54] I mean,

[1:02:55] I really did not have an alien voice ready and I had to wear like eye contacts.

[1:02:59] They put the eye contacts in and it was just,

[1:03:02] and so I just kind of growled.

[1:03:04] I mean,

[1:03:04] I have to say,

[1:03:05] I really did not get,

[1:03:07] I did not have the imagination that I have now.

[1:03:10] Also having seen the men in black movies.

Elliott Kalan

[1:03:13] Yeah.

[1:03:13] Now,

[1:03:13] you know what aliens are like?

[1:03:14] They're like,

[1:03:15] Hey,

[1:03:15] come on.

[1:03:16] What's this all about?

[1:03:17] Yeah.

[1:03:17] They all sound like that.

[1:03:18] Yeah.

S4

[1:03:19] I could have really gone just like really high pitched or weird,

[1:03:23] but it was more like,

[1:03:24] like,

[1:03:25] I don't know.

[1:03:25] It was so stupid.

[1:03:27] It was,

[1:03:27] I really,

[1:03:28] I could go back in time and fix it.

[1:03:31] I know that movie,

[1:03:32] that Roger Corman movie could have been great.

[1:03:35] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[1:03:35] Yeah.

[1:03:39] So this,

[1:03:40] you'll be happy to know that,

[1:03:41] uh,

[1:03:41] as soon as Liam Neeson turns into an alien,

[1:03:43] it's all CGI all the time.

[1:03:44] He never had to get into any makeup or prosthetics.

[1:03:47] And I don't think he even talks after that.

[1:03:48] He just growls.

Stuart Wellington

[1:03:49] He did insist on taking his clothes off though.

Elliott Kalan

[1:03:52] That's true.

[1:03:53] Yeah.

[1:03:54] He does.

[1:03:54] He does disrobe and it takes a while.

[1:03:56] Like he's doing a real,

[1:03:57] it's a real striptease.

[1:03:58] Yeah.

[1:03:59] He's swirling his tie.

Dan McCoy

[1:04:00] He keeps eye contact with the camera the whole time too,

[1:04:02] which makes you very uncomfortable as a viewer.

[1:04:05] Yeah.

[1:04:05] He keeps saying.

[1:04:06] As if he's daring you.

S4

[1:04:07] That day when I showed up on set,

[1:04:10] like to my dressing room,

[1:04:11] my costume was in my room and it was just a pair of earrings and a skirt.

Elliott Kalan

[1:04:16] Oh,

[1:04:17] that's terrible.

[1:04:19] So movie's almost over.

[1:04:20] They've defeated the hive,

[1:04:21] probably eliminated that race from the universe.

[1:04:24] Oh,

[1:04:25] shows up at the scene,

[1:04:26] which is again,

[1:04:26] the Eiffel tower.

[1:04:27] And she's like,

[1:04:27] I always suspected something was going on with the London branch.

[1:04:30] It's like,

[1:04:31] well,

[1:04:31] good thing you never looked into it.

[1:04:33] Uh,

Dan McCoy

[1:04:33] and you sent your new recruit to,

[1:04:35] to like,

[1:04:36] barret out the mole.

[1:04:37] Apparently.

Elliott Kalan

[1:04:37] And she's,

[1:04:38] she's like,

[1:04:39] M,

[1:04:39] you're now an official agent.

[1:04:40] You get the neuralizer.

[1:04:41] And it's like,

[1:04:41] yeah,

[1:04:42] you think she's proved herself now,

[1:04:43] right?

[1:04:44] She saved the world.

[1:04:44] And H is named the probationary head of the London branch,

[1:04:48] even though it seems like he is the wrong guy for this job.

[1:04:51] It seems like if anyone should get that job that we've met,

[1:04:53] it's C who seems like more of an administrator and age,

[1:04:57] whose main skills seem to be drinking and getting into fights that he barely gets out of,

[1:05:02] should not be running.

[1:05:03] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[1:05:03] He's being promoted above his,

[1:05:05] his particular skillset.

[1:05:07] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[1:05:07] Like sometimes a really great comedy writer might not be the best manager of,

[1:05:11] uh,

[1:05:12] like a team of comedy writers,

[1:05:13] right?

[1:05:14] I'm just trying to give you guys,

[1:05:15] you know,

[1:05:16] something to latch.

[1:05:16] Often.

[1:05:17] It's often the case.

Elliott Kalan

[1:05:18] Uh,

[1:05:19] so M is assigned to the New York office.

[1:05:21] It's a bittersweet goodbye between H and M.

[1:05:23] But later that morning,

[1:05:24] I guess it's like daybreak.

[1:05:26] M picks up H in his car.

[1:05:28] I guess he was just hanging around thinking about all those new responsibilities.

[1:05:31] And she says she's assigning Pawnee,

[1:05:34] the Kumail Nanjiani tiny alien to keep an eye on H.

[1:05:37] So he's just going to hang out with H.

[1:05:38] And she's like,

[1:05:39] he's like,

[1:05:40] let me tell you how to drive that car,

[1:05:41] this flying car that I forgot to mention they have.

[1:05:43] And she goes,

[1:05:44] I'm going to follow my gut.

[1:05:45] And it's like,

[1:05:46] that's what he told her to do is follow her gut.

[1:05:48] And then there are over 10 minutes of end credits.

[1:05:51] So the movie is shorter than I thought.

Dan McCoy

[1:05:52] I fast forwarded through.

[1:05:54] Cause like,

[1:05:55] we were like,

[1:05:55] Oh,

[1:05:56] surely if any movie has like an end credits thing or like some bloops,

[1:06:00] uh,

[1:06:00] it'll be this one.

Elliott Kalan

[1:06:01] It's going to have Rebecca Ferguson being like,

[1:06:03] I want my revenge on H or something like that.

[1:06:06] But they didn't have anything.

[1:06:07] It's nothing.

[1:06:08] I think there,

[1:06:09] I think there have been enough possible franchise starters that had those end credit scenes.

[1:06:14] And then there were no sequels that they're just like,

[1:06:15] let's take them out.

[1:06:16] Let's not put them in the movies anymore.

[1:06:18] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[1:06:18] It's so interesting that this movie completely ignores Tommy Lee Jones and Will Smith's characters.

[1:06:24] Cause they don't really explain the premise of men in black to anybody.

Dan McCoy

[1:06:29] So they assume you already know,

[1:06:30] but then they also like,

Stuart Wellington

[1:06:32] it's just so weird.

[1:06:34] Okay.

Dan McCoy

[1:06:35] Um,

[1:06:36] okay.

[1:06:36] Well,

[1:06:36] this is,

[1:06:37] uh,

[1:06:37] where we get to final judgments,

[1:06:39] where we say whether this is a good,

[1:06:40] bad movie,

[1:06:41] a bad,

[1:06:42] or a movie we kind of like,

[1:06:44] uh,

[1:06:45] Annabelle,

[1:06:46] uh,

[1:06:46] I will allow you to give your final judgment,

[1:06:48] of course,

[1:06:49] on men in black three.

[1:06:51] You have now watched twice.

[1:06:53] And of all the things,

[1:06:55] I'm sorry that you had to watch it twice,

[1:06:57] uh,

[1:06:58] because of this,

[1:06:59] but,

[1:06:59] uh,

[1:07:00] what,

[1:07:00] what would you say about that movie?

S4

[1:07:02] Wait,

[1:07:02] wait,

[1:07:03] give me my exact choices.

[1:07:04] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[1:07:05] If it's a good,

[1:07:06] a bad,

[1:07:08] or something you kind of liked.

S4

[1:07:10] I'm going to say a bad,

[1:07:11] bad movie.

[1:07:12] Okay.

[1:07:13] Okay.

[1:07:14] Well,

Dan McCoy

[1:07:15] uh,

[1:07:16] sorry,

[1:07:16] Tommy Lee Jones,

[1:07:17] or,

[1:07:17] well,

[1:07:18] I guess it was mostly Josh Brolin.

[1:07:19] Sorry,

[1:07:19] Josh Brolin and Will Smith.

[1:07:20] What if it was,

Elliott Kalan

[1:07:21] what if it was Josh Groban who was playing a young Tommy Lee Jones?

[1:07:24] What's interesting casting?

Dan McCoy

[1:07:27] Interesting.

Elliott Kalan

[1:07:28] More singing,

[1:07:29] I'd imagine.

[1:07:30] Probably more singing.

[1:07:31] Uh,

[1:07:31] although I don't know,

[1:07:32] maybe,

[1:07:32] maybe Josh Brolin can sing.

[1:07:34] I don't know.

[1:07:35] I've never,

[1:07:35] I've never heard him try.

S4

[1:07:37] Uh,

[1:07:37] I don't know that that could have saved the script.

[1:07:40] Cause again,

[1:07:40] it was that,

[1:07:41] you know,

[1:07:42] pulling at your heartstrings movie that I just,

[1:07:45] I just want my fun in this,

[1:07:48] in this,

[1:07:49] in this series.

[1:07:50] So I'm going to,

[1:07:50] I'm,

[1:07:51] that was my vote on the movie that I watched incorrectly.

Dan McCoy

[1:07:54] Yeah.

[1:07:55] Well,

[1:07:55] speak,

[1:07:56] well,

[1:07:56] speaking of fun,

[1:07:57] I'll give my,

[1:07:58] uh,

[1:07:58] judgment,

[1:07:59] which I,

[1:08:00] I assume will be slightly different than my co-hosts based on a little

[1:08:04] texting we did beforehand.

[1:08:05] I,

Elliott Kalan

[1:08:06] this is,

[1:08:07] this is,

[1:08:07] let's pull back the curtain and say,

[1:08:08] uh,

[1:08:09] audience members,

[1:08:10] Dan likes to,

[1:08:11] instead of saving his,

[1:08:13] his thoughts until the podcast,

[1:08:14] he likes to text us immediately before recording and tell us what he

[1:08:17] thought about the movie.

[1:08:18] And then if we just,

[1:08:19] and then if,

[1:08:20] and then if we disagree with him,

[1:08:21] he's like,

[1:08:22] let's argue this out over the text right now.

[1:08:23] And I'm like,

[1:08:24] we're about to do this on a podcast.

[1:08:25] Like,

[1:08:26] let's save it.

Dan McCoy

[1:08:26] I didn't argue it out over the text.

[1:08:28] I,

[1:08:29] uh,

[1:08:30] um,

[1:08:31] yeah,

[1:08:32] no,

[1:08:32] I mean,

[1:08:32] I,

[1:08:33] I,

Dan McCoy

[1:08:33] it's,

[1:08:33] it's going to be a surprise for the listener.

[1:08:35] I don't need it to be a surprise for you guys.

[1:08:38] Fair.

Elliott Kalan

[1:08:38] Why,

[1:08:39] why get a genuine reaction?

[1:08:40] Sure.

[1:08:40] Okay.

[1:08:41] But you're saying,

[1:08:41] no,

Dan McCoy

[1:08:43] um,

[1:08:43] no,

[1:08:44] I kind of,

[1:08:44] I kind of like this movie.

[1:08:45] Like talking about just like fun.

[1:08:47] Like,

[1:08:48] look,

[1:08:48] I understand why this wasn't received like super well.

[1:08:54] Uh,

[1:08:55] and I get where like,

[1:08:56] maybe if I saw it in the theater,

[1:08:58] I would be more down on it.

[1:08:59] Whereas I saw it on a Sunday morning at home and I'm like,

[1:09:02] okay,

[1:09:02] this is fun.

[1:09:03] Um,

[1:09:04] but yeah,

[1:09:05] I also look,

[1:09:07] I'll say something controversial.

[1:09:09] I like the original men in black.

[1:09:11] I don't like it as much as the world seems to like men in black.

[1:09:14] Like I find it,

[1:09:16] uh,

[1:09:17] Oh,

Stuart Wellington

[1:09:17] I'm going to make Dan's letterbox profile.

Elliott Kalan

[1:09:21] No,

[1:09:22] it's,

[1:09:22] it's good.

[1:09:22] Dan,

Elliott Kalan

[1:09:22] just get ready for that.

[1:09:23] Just get ready for the hate mail.

[1:09:25] I know.

Dan McCoy

[1:09:25] Everyone's going to hate me.

[1:09:26] I think it's good.

[1:09:27] I think it's funny.

[1:09:28] I think the leads are very good in it,

[1:09:30] but I also,

[1:09:31] I'm just like,

[1:09:32] okay,

[1:09:32] yeah.

[1:09:33] Like it seemed original as a movie,

[1:09:37] I think,

[1:09:37] because big blockbusters weren't as sort of casual about that stuff.

[1:09:43] But then I don't even know if that's true.

[1:09:45] I mean,

[1:09:45] like,

[1:09:46] like,

[1:09:46] you know,

[1:09:46] ghostbusters is a very silly,

[1:09:48] uh,

[1:09:49] big movie about special effects.

[1:09:51] You've got stuff like Beetlejuice,

[1:09:53] which is just like wackadoo.

[1:09:54] And I love it anyway.

[1:09:56] So I,

[1:09:56] I didn't have like this nostalgic attachment where I'm like,

[1:09:59] they are ruining men in black.

[1:10:00] I was just like,

[1:10:01] oh,

[1:10:01] I get to see my fun pals,

[1:10:03] Tessa and Chris zip around and,

[1:10:05] you know,

[1:10:05] have fun.

[1:10:06] And like,

[1:10:07] I,

[1:10:07] I wonder,

[1:10:08] I'm suspecting that Elliot's problem is partly that,

[1:10:12] uh,

[1:10:13] they didn't react ever as if there were like any stakes to what was going on,

[1:10:18] that it felt too light.

[1:10:19] But I feel like that's always been part of men in black.

Elliott Kalan

[1:10:22] Don't put words in my mouth,

[1:10:24] Dan,

[1:10:24] don't put words in my mouth.

Dan McCoy

[1:10:26] I'm just suspecting you have your chance now and you can say it now.

[1:10:29] I,

[1:10:29] I kind of liked it.

Elliott Kalan

[1:10:31] Point by point rebuttal.

[1:10:32] One,

[1:10:32] men in black is the most original movie in the history of film.

[1:10:35] Okay.

[1:10:35] Number two.

[1:10:36] Well,

[1:10:36] no,

[1:10:37] it's so that,

[1:10:38] but you mentioned ghostbusters,

[1:10:38] like the excitement of men in black is probably that it's ghostbusters,

[1:10:41] but with aliens.

[1:10:42] Like it's,

[1:10:43] you've got basically what they did with ghostbusters,

[1:10:45] but it's aliens instead of ghosts.

[1:10:46] Great.

[1:10:46] I'm on board a hundred percent with this.

[1:10:48] It's not that they didn't have stakes.

[1:10:50] It's that it's a very thin movie.

[1:10:51] There's not a lot going on.

[1:10:52] And even in terms,

[1:10:53] there's very many,

[1:10:54] it feels like an episode of the men in black TV show that doesn't exist where

[1:10:57] it's like,

[1:10:58] okay,

[1:10:59] we got to find this,

[1:11:00] this,

[1:11:00] we're supposed to protect this guy.

[1:11:01] He has a mysterious object.

[1:11:03] We lost it for a couple of minutes.

[1:11:04] We got it back.

[1:11:05] There's a mole.

[1:11:06] We saved the day.

[1:11:07] There's,

[1:11:07] there's just not very much going on and it's not funny enough or charismatic

[1:11:10] enough to get like,

[1:11:12] it is trying to be almost like the to catch a thief of men in black movies where,

[1:11:16] you're like,

[1:11:17] totally what I felt like.

[1:11:18] Yeah,

[1:11:18] but it does,

[1:11:19] but it doesn't achieve that.

[1:11:20] Cause it's like not funny enough or exciting enough,

[1:11:22] or I don't need a heavy duty plot.

[1:11:24] Like Annabelle was saying,

[1:11:25] like,

[1:11:25] I don't need my heartstrings pulled when it's Ghostbusters,

[1:11:27] but with aliens,

[1:11:28] but I want to have like a lot of funny jokes and crazy stuff zipping around that

[1:11:32] feels like,

[1:11:33] uh,

[1:11:34] a lot of effort was put into it almost like there,

[1:11:37] it,

[1:11:37] the whole movie kind of feels like,

[1:11:38] um,

[1:11:39] there,

[1:11:40] what,

[1:11:40] there's a lack of,

[1:11:41] uh,

[1:11:41] imagination,

[1:11:42] you might call it.

[1:11:43] And really what is film,

[1:11:45] but imagination made flesh.

[1:11:47] Stuart,

[1:11:47] continue.

[1:11:48] Oh,

[1:11:49] wow.

Stuart Wellington

[1:11:49] Uh,

[1:11:50] so you're saying,

[1:11:52] I gotta,

[1:11:52] I gotta pick up from flesh,

[1:11:55] right?

[1:11:55] Yes.

Elliott Kalan

[1:11:56] From the word I was to put into our categories that never really adequately helped me to rate

[1:12:01] a movie.

[1:12:01] It's not,

[1:12:02] I didn't really like it,

[1:12:03] but it's not like a bad,

[1:12:04] bad movie.

[1:12:04] If like,

[1:12:05] as I'll put it on my scale of,

[1:12:06] if you're a kid and you're sick home from school,

[1:12:09] go ahead and watch men in black international.

[1:12:10] Like it'll pass the time while you're eating,

[1:12:13] like when you're sipping ginger ale and eating Cheerios or whatever.

[1:12:16] And just like the,

Dan McCoy

[1:12:17] we've established that gogurt is the thing that children dinosaur shaped chicken nuggets.

[1:12:22] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[1:12:22] But not when they're sick.

[1:12:24] You just said,

S4

[1:12:25] if you're a kid who's home and sick and you're out of school,

[1:12:29] like,

[1:12:30] do you know that would say,

[1:12:31] that must sound so good to so many people right now.

[1:12:34] Oh,

[1:12:34] that's true.

[1:12:36] Anyway.

Elliott Kalan

[1:12:37] All right.

[1:12:38] Well then,

[1:12:38] okay.

[1:12:38] Good point.

[1:12:39] Good point.

[1:12:39] Well,

[1:12:39] if you've got two hours to kill,

[1:12:41] uh,

[1:12:42] you might,

[1:12:43] you could watch men in black international,

[1:12:44] but you could also watch movies that you're going to enjoy more.

[1:12:47] So Stuart,

S4

[1:12:48] if you've made it to the end of the internet,

[1:12:51] you might want to.

[1:12:53] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[1:12:55] Yeah.

[1:12:55] Uh,

[1:12:56] yeah,

[1:12:56] I'm kind of,

[1:12:57] I'm,

[1:12:57] I'm in the same boat as you,

[1:12:58] Elliot.

[1:12:58] I think it's a hard movie to like,

[1:13:01] it's a hard movie to be mad at,

[1:13:03] but it's very,

[1:13:03] it felt very slim.

[1:13:05] And there's just,

[1:13:08] and it felt very rote and not a lot of effort was put into it.

[1:13:11] Like there's a lot of scenes early on where they're like,

[1:13:14] Tessa Thompson's character is like joining up and they could have just cut all that out.

[1:13:18] Like they didn't need to.

[1:13:20] It didn't really,

[1:13:21] I don't know.

[1:13:22] You know,

[1:13:23] it just,

Elliott Kalan

[1:13:24] well,

[1:13:24] just the fact that it's like all my life,

[1:13:26] I've wanted to be one of the men in black,

[1:13:27] but I can't even find out where they're supposed to be.

[1:13:29] I found them.

[1:13:30] Can I join?

[1:13:31] Yes,

[1:13:31] you can join.

[1:13:32] Okay,

[1:13:32] great.

[1:13:33] I was like,

[1:13:33] what are we going to put some complications?

Stuart Wellington

[1:13:36] You could just start with her joining like,

[1:13:38] and be like,

[1:13:38] just start with this her first day.

[1:13:39] She just showed up.

[1:13:41] Like,

[1:13:41] because it's,

[1:13:42] because it's,

[1:13:42] it's also like we've really got,

Elliott Kalan

[1:13:43] we've really got to establish why this character wants to be a super cool secret spy who gets to work with aliens.

[1:13:48] Like,

[1:13:48] no,

[1:13:48] I would believe that.

[1:13:49] I don't think you need to,

Dan McCoy

[1:13:50] you need to.

[1:13:50] Yeah.

[1:13:51] Well,

[1:13:51] I will say,

[1:13:52] I wouldn't say that there's a lack of effort.

[1:13:55] I would say there's a lack of effort in the screenplay.

[1:13:57] The screenplay is specifically what the problem is with this movie.

[1:14:01] I think that the other stuff in the movie,

[1:14:03] like everyone's doing their best with what they're given.

[1:14:05] I think it looks pretty good.

[1:14:07] Like it's just,

[1:14:08] the screenplay is not there.

[1:14:10] Yeah.

[1:14:10] Production wise,

[1:14:11] it's fine.

[1:14:12] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[1:14:13] So that's Dan McCoy says,

[1:14:14] run,

[1:14:15] don't walk to see men in black international.

[1:14:17] Uh,

[1:14:17] Annabelle says,

[1:14:18] just don't go see men in black three.

S5

[1:14:28] The Beef and Dairy Network is a multi award winning comedy podcast here on Maximum Fun.

[1:14:33] And I would recommend you listen to it,

[1:14:35] but don't just take it from me.

[1:14:37] What do the listeners have to say?

S6

[1:14:39] I would rather stick a corkscrew inside my ear,

[1:14:42] twist it around and pull out my ear canal like a cork than listen to your stupid podcast ever again.

[1:14:47] Please stop contacting me.

S5

[1:14:48] Hell would freeze over before I recommended this podcast,

[1:14:55] the Beef and Dairy Network to anyone.

S4

[1:14:57] Not in a million years.

[1:14:59] Actually stretch that.

[1:15:01] Make it a billion years.

[1:15:02] No,

[1:15:03] how long's infinity?

S5

[1:15:04] That's the Beef and Dairy Network podcast available at MaximumFun.org

[1:15:08] and at all good and some bad podcast platforms.

S6

[1:15:11] Disgusting.

[1:15:12] Hi,

[1:15:13] I'm Jackie Cation.

[1:15:13] Hi,

[1:15:14] I'm Lori Kilmartin.

[1:15:15] And we have a podcast called the Jackie and Lori Show.

[1:15:18] Who are you,

[1:15:18] Lori Kilmartin?

[1:15:19] Oh my God,

[1:15:20] so much pressure.

[1:15:21] See,

S4

[1:15:22] I'm a stand-up.

[1:15:22] I've been here to stand-up since 1987.

[1:15:24] I'm a writer for Conan.

[1:15:26] I've written a couple books,

[1:15:27] have a couple CDs out,

[1:15:28] have a special out.

S6

[1:15:29] Who are you,

[1:15:30] Jackie?

[1:15:31] Well,

[1:15:31] I too am a stand-up comic since 1984.

[1:15:34] And I do the road like a maniac and don't have a cool writing job,

[1:15:39] but I have four albums out working on a new album.

[1:15:42] We talk about stand-up.

[1:15:43] We talk about all the different parts of stand-up comedy.

[1:15:46] So that's the Jackie and Lori Show.

[1:15:48] And you should subscribe on Maximum Fun

[1:15:50] if you want to hear that.

[1:15:52] And I would encourage you not to.

Elliott Kalan

[1:15:57] Unfortunately,

[1:15:58] Annabelle can't join us for the rest of the episode.

[1:16:00] Is there anything you would like to plug

[1:16:01] or remind our audience about before you go?

S4

[1:16:05] Well,

[1:16:06] yeah.

[1:16:07] Thank you for asking.

[1:16:09] You know,

[1:16:10] Comedian Laura House and I,

[1:16:12] we have this new little podcast called Tiny Victories.

[1:16:17] It's on Maximum Fun

[1:16:20] right here.

[1:16:20] And,

[1:16:21] yes,

[1:16:23] why say?

[1:16:24] It is.

[1:16:24] And the thing about it is,

[1:16:26] it's a tiny podcast.

[1:16:29] It's 15 minutes long.

[1:16:31] We don't,

[1:16:32] we limit ourselves to that.

[1:16:34] And we have a,

[1:16:35] we have a,

Elliott Kalan

[1:16:36] it feels like a message is being sent to us.

[1:16:38] Possibly the most bloated podcast on MaxFun.

Dan McCoy

[1:16:41] Well,

[1:16:41] also Stuart is like clearly dreaming of a world.

[1:16:48] You can do that.

S4

[1:16:50] And the idea is that,

[1:16:52] you know,

[1:16:52] we,

[1:16:53] we try to highlight the very tiny,

[1:16:58] inconsequential,

[1:16:59] small mercies that are keeping us going during this,

[1:17:04] you know,

[1:17:05] flaming piece of shit year.

[1:17:10] And,

[1:17:11] and we have a criteria for what makes a tiny victory.

[1:17:15] What makes a tiny victory is something that gives you joy or makes you feel like getting out of bed.

[1:17:22] That is completely unnewsworthy.

[1:17:25] That nobody,

[1:17:26] it's inconsequential to the workings of the world.

[1:17:30] Like we have an episode about how I have found my happy place.

[1:17:33] And it happens to be a traffic intersection in Los Angeles.

[1:17:37] You know,

[1:17:37] just,

[1:17:38] just,

[1:17:38] just the kind of tiny,

[1:17:41] small observational things that are making it possible to survive.

[1:17:45] Laura house,

[1:17:46] actually the episode we have another episode coming up where she,

[1:17:51] her fiance,

[1:17:52] is a jazz trumpeter,

[1:17:54] but she doesn't really like jazz.

[1:17:56] And she has her,

[1:17:57] her first jazzgasm.

[1:17:59] And she shares that with us.

[1:18:01] Oh,

[1:18:01] cool.

Dan McCoy

[1:18:02] I remember when I had my first jazzgasm.

[1:18:05] Uh-huh.

[1:18:05] As a young man.

Elliott Kalan

[1:18:06] I've had to fake so many jazzgasms.

[1:18:08] It's,

[1:18:09] yeah.

S4

[1:18:11] So,

[1:18:11] that's the show you find us on Maximum Fun.

[1:18:14] And,

[1:18:14] and,

[1:18:15] and that's it.

[1:18:16] So,

[1:18:16] I hope people will check it out.

[1:18:18] Actually,

[1:18:19] we,

[1:18:19] we have another episode we just,

[1:18:20] we just recorded about,

[1:18:22] um,

[1:18:23] giving into hating the year 2020 and how satisfying that is because there's some really good merch.

[1:18:30] Uh,

[1:18:31] yeah,

[1:18:32] it's the,

[1:18:32] I hate 2020 merch is just can't be beat.

[1:18:35] So,

[1:18:36] um,

[1:18:36] yeah,

[1:18:36] that,

[1:18:36] that's,

[1:18:38] our little,

[1:18:38] uh,

[1:18:38] our little endeavor,

[1:18:40] our little pandemic endeavor.

[1:18:42] So.

[1:18:42] That's great.

[1:18:44] Excellent.

Stuart Wellington

[1:18:44] Thanks a lot.

[1:18:45] No,

[1:18:45] thanks for coming on.

S4

[1:18:47] Thank you guys.

[1:18:47] Thanks for joining us.

[1:18:48] Thanks for giving me the opportunity to talk about movies.

Dan McCoy

[1:18:54] Well,

[1:18:55] uh,

[1:18:55] we don't have,

[1:18:56] uh,

[1:18:57] any ads this episode,

[1:18:59] but we do have a couple of Jumbotrons.

[1:19:01] We are mostly,

[1:19:02] um,

[1:19:03] supported by listeners like you,

[1:19:05] but if you want to send a special message as a small business or a,

[1:19:10] just a personal message,

[1:19:11] you can go to maximum fun.

[1:19:12] We're a regular sized person.

[1:19:14] Maximum fun.org forward slash Jumbotron.

[1:19:16] Elliot,

[1:19:16] I'm trying to give,

[1:19:17] give,

[1:19:17] give the URL so they can,

[1:19:19] uh,

[1:19:19] they can buy an ad.

[1:19:21] Um,

[1:19:22] but,

[1:19:22] uh,

[1:19:22] yeah,

[1:19:23] so we've got a couple of Jumbotrons.

[1:19:24] Uh,

[1:19:25] Elliot,

[1:19:25] why don't you go up first and read one?

Elliott Kalan

[1:19:28] You got it.

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[1:19:45] but we do have one small fix to make Thor,

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Stuart Wellington

[1:20:03] Man,

[1:20:03] I got to find out about that tricep flex.

[1:20:06] Mm hmm.

[1:20:06] Yeah.

[1:20:07] Cool.

[1:20:08] And I have a J J J J Jumbotron.

[1:20:10] It's Stuart's time to read.

[1:20:11] Everybody clear the stage.

[1:20:14] This message is for James.

[1:20:17] This message is from Emma.

[1:20:20] Hey,

[1:20:21] but will you take care of Watson tonight?

[1:20:24] I'm tuckered out.

[1:20:26] Okay.

[1:20:26] Thanks.

[1:20:27] Love.

[1:20:27] Always.

[1:20:28] Your bug.

[1:20:30] P.S.

[1:20:31] Happy anniversary.

[1:20:34] Mm hmm.

[1:20:34] That was adorable.

[1:20:37] Thank you.

[1:20:38] It was a minute.

Elliott Kalan

[1:20:40] For a minute.

[1:20:40] I was like,

[1:20:40] are they just using this as like the bulletin board?

[1:20:43] Like,

[1:20:43] that's fine.

[1:20:44] I guess.

[1:20:45] I mean,

[1:20:45] guys do.

Dan McCoy

[1:20:46] I,

[1:20:47] uh,

[1:20:47] you know,

[1:20:48] I see these before I send them to you guys.

[1:20:50] And,

[1:20:50] uh,

[1:20:51] I like how this one had a note just specifying that,

[1:20:55] but was not a,

[1:20:56] uh,

[1:20:56] a typo that they meant to say,

[1:20:59] but,

[1:21:00] um,

[1:21:01] yeah,

[1:21:01] yeah.

[1:21:01] I just want to give a little,

[1:21:03] uh,

[1:21:03] update.

[1:21:04] Um,

[1:21:05] you know,

[1:21:05] we had this,

[1:21:06] uh,

[1:21:07] this live show for Exorcist to the Heretic.

[1:21:10] You can see that on our YouTube channel.

[1:21:11] It's up for all to enjoy.

[1:21:14] Uh,

Stuart Wellington

[1:21:14] the donation period slightly more crazy from having spent this much time in quarantine and whatnot.

Dan McCoy

[1:21:22] Mm hmm.

[1:21:22] Uh,

[1:21:23] there's the,

[1:21:23] the donation period for the raffle,

[1:21:26] uh,

[1:21:26] the charity raffle to get some Flophouse merch has ended.

[1:21:31] I haven't chosen the winners randomly yet,

[1:21:33] but I wanted to give everyone the totals.

[1:21:37] Um,

[1:21:38] we got slightly more than 400 people,

[1:21:42] uh,

[1:21:43] donating.

[1:21:44] So,

[1:21:44] uh,

[1:21:45] we're not going to do like an additional thing,

[1:21:48] but we,

[1:21:49] I'm sure are going to do more live events similar to this in the future.

[1:21:53] Um,

[1:21:54] but money wise,

[1:21:56] uh,

[1:21:57] Flophouse listeners donated 31,000,

[1:22:01] 7,000,

[1:22:01] 7,000 and $15 and 78 cents.

[1:22:05] Uh,

[1:22:06] we are kicking in another 5,000.

[1:22:09] So almost,

[1:22:10] uh,

[1:22:11] 37,000 to charity.

[1:22:14] Yeah,

[1:22:15] that was,

[1:22:15] that's amazing.

Elliott Kalan

[1:22:16] Both times we've done this.

[1:22:17] I've been just like floored and blown away by the generosity of Flophouse listeners.

[1:22:23] And it really helps me to feel better about this show being otherwise a total pile of nonsense,

[1:22:30] uh,

[1:22:31] that our listeners have been so great at,

[1:22:33] uh,

[1:22:34] helping the world with us.

[1:22:35] So thank you so much for doing that.

[1:22:37] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[1:22:38] Um,

[1:22:39] I just have a note on my thing when I was,

[1:22:41] uh,

[1:22:42] Annabelle,

[1:22:42] uh,

[1:22:43] mentioned Reddit,

[1:22:44] uh,

[1:22:44] and I wrote down Reddit cause I've been meaning to say,

[1:22:47] uh,

[1:22:48] Max fun has a Reddit.

[1:22:49] Uh,

[1:22:50] if you,

[1:22:51] unlike the rest of Reddit,

[1:22:52] it's not horrible.

[1:22:54] I mean,

[1:22:54] there's many nice corners on Reddit,

[1:22:57] but it's known for having not nice corners,

[1:22:59] but the Max fun corners,

[1:23:00] very good.

[1:23:00] If you want to discuss the show,

[1:23:02] but don't want to jump into our huge Facebook group,

[1:23:05] uh,

[1:23:05] I just want to encourage people to get on Reddit cause I'm jealous of how many,

[1:23:08] uh,

[1:23:09] comments other shows get.

[1:23:10] And so I want to crush them,

[1:23:12] you know?

[1:23:13] Um,

[1:23:13] but Elliot,

[1:23:14] I assume you have,

[1:23:15] uh,

[1:23:16] something you want to say about maybe a children's book or something that you've

[1:23:19] written or something.

[1:23:19] I mean,

[1:23:20] I mean,

Elliott Kalan

[1:23:20] I can,

[1:23:20] if you want,

[1:23:21] I do have,

[1:23:21] I do have a newish children's book out,

[1:23:23] shark when hippo it's available in stores and online now,

[1:23:25] order it through your local independent bookstore.

[1:23:27] If you're like the Marx brothers and you have kids,

[1:23:29] you might like shark when hippo it's me taking,

[1:23:32] uh,

[1:23:32] or let's say being inspired by,

[1:23:34] uh,

[1:23:34] the relationship between Harpo and Chico and bits they would do.

[1:23:37] And in applying it to a story about a shark and a hippo,

[1:23:40] the shark wants to go fishing and that hippo just will not give him the

[1:23:42] things that he is asking for.

[1:23:44] It's available now.

[1:23:45] And if you enjoy it and you haven't read my first book,

[1:23:47] worst meets dog,

[1:23:48] please do.

[1:23:49] It's also available through your independent bookstore and online.

Dan McCoy

[1:23:52] I'm one,

[1:23:53] I'm,

[1:23:54] I'm one of those things.

[1:23:55] I don't have kids,

[1:23:56] but I am a fan of the Marx brothers.

[1:23:57] I bought one just for myself and it's a lot of fun.

[1:24:02] Uh,

[1:24:02] Stuart,

[1:24:03] do you want to say any personal plug?

Stuart Wellington

[1:24:05] Yeah.

[1:24:06] Uh,

[1:24:07] I own a couple of small bars in Brooklyn,

[1:24:11] New York.

[1:24:11] And so if you live in New York or Brooklyn and you want to support a local

[1:24:14] business,

[1:24:15] uh,

[1:24:16] we're doing a limited seating and we also have to go drinks,

[1:24:19] uh,

[1:24:19] come support us.

[1:24:20] And if you live in the United States,

[1:24:23] uh,

[1:24:24] we are also shipping out,

[1:24:26] uh,

[1:24:26] T-shirts and hoodies.

[1:24:27] Uh,

[1:24:27] sales have been so good that we constantly have to reorder both of those

[1:24:31] things.

[1:24:32] Uh,

[1:24:32] and I'm really blown away by everybody's generosity,

[1:24:35] uh,

[1:24:36] and for coming out to help.

[1:24:37] Uh,

[1:24:37] it also means that,

[1:24:39] uh,

[1:24:39] I'm doing a lot of,

[1:24:41] uh,

[1:24:41] packing of shirts into envelopes.

[1:24:42] And sometimes it feels like I'm trying to stick a dog in a bathtub,

[1:24:45] but you know,

[1:24:45] that's part of the fun.

[1:24:48] Uh,

[1:24:48] and I also,

[1:24:49] I mean,

[1:24:49] as long as we're mentioning,

Dan McCoy

[1:24:51] as long as we're mentioning stuff,

[1:24:53] I wanted to say,

[1:24:54] um,

[1:24:55] Elliot appeared on the next picture show recently.

[1:25:00] Oh,

[1:25:00] wow.

[1:25:01] Talking about one of his favorite movies,

[1:25:03] the cool,

Stuart Wellington

[1:25:04] that's a cool,

[1:25:05] serious film podcast.

Elliott Kalan

[1:25:06] Yeah.

[1:25:07] That was a real serious film podcast.

[1:25:08] And I think they were not always totally taken with my jokes,

Dan McCoy

[1:25:12] but I listened to it.

[1:25:14] They seem to be laughing at you a lot.

[1:25:17] Was there facial expressions?

Elliott Kalan

[1:25:19] Yeah,

[1:25:20] but,

[1:25:20] uh,

[1:25:20] I was invited on to talk about one of my favorite movies,

[1:25:22] the fall,

[1:25:23] uh,

[1:25:23] because co-host Tasha Robinson is a big,

[1:25:25] big fan of it.

[1:25:26] And it was a great conversation about it.

[1:25:28] If you haven't seen the movie,

[1:25:29] the fall,

[1:25:29] I highly recommend it,

[1:25:31] but I think you'll still enjoy the conversation.

[1:25:32] Even if you haven't,

Stuart Wellington

[1:25:34] man,

[1:25:34] I,

[1:25:34] I would love to be on that show just to talk to Tasha about,

[1:25:37] her experiences with role-playing games.

[1:25:40] Cause she's also a big role-playing game enthusiast.

Dan McCoy

[1:25:42] It could happen.

[1:25:44] You never know.

[1:25:46] Uh,

[1:25:47] but let's move on to letters from listeners.

[1:25:51] The first letter is from Max,

[1:25:53] last name withheld.

[1:25:55] Wait,

[1:25:55] Dan,

[1:25:56] are you saying,

Elliott Kalan

[1:25:56] here come the letter Q's.

[1:25:59] Questions from the listeners.

[1:26:01] Oh,

[1:26:02] yeah.

[1:26:02] Here come the letter Q's.

[1:26:05] We're gonna answer those questions.

[1:26:07] It's the letter Q's.

[1:26:08] It's the letter Q's.

[1:26:09] Here come the letter Q's.

[1:26:11] Space stuff.

[1:26:11] And then aliens too.

[1:26:13] And we're kind of like secret police that have fancy technology and you don't need to know about them.

[1:26:17] It's anti-democratic and it's a little bit scary when you think about the implications,

[1:26:20] but we're stopping aliens.

[1:26:21] These aliens,

[1:26:22] sometimes they have like a head on a stick,

[1:26:24] but it looks like a real person's head,

[1:26:25] but it's actually a robot.

[1:26:27] Come the letter Q's.

[1:26:30] Speaking of,

[1:26:30] speaking of men in black,

Stuart Wellington

[1:26:32] where,

[1:26:33] where do you think Chris Hemsworth had to go buy,

[1:26:36] uh,

[1:26:36] buy a suit to make him,

[1:26:37] his shoulders look that broad.

[1:26:39] Do you,

[1:26:39] do you,

[1:26:40] do you,

[1:26:40] does he have to go to a special store?

[1:26:42] Like a big and broad store?

Dan McCoy

[1:26:43] Like buy a suit to make them look that broad?

[1:26:45] I'm pretty sure they're just that broad.

[1:26:46] Yeah,

[1:26:46] because he looks really great in those suits.

[1:26:48] Yeah,

[1:26:48] because he's a very,

[1:26:49] very,

[1:26:50] very handsome man who's in incredible shape.

Elliott Kalan

[1:26:53] Yeah.

[1:26:53] I'll tell you this,

[1:26:53] his secret is that he went to men's warehouse and he liked the way he looked in his suit.

[1:26:58] I thought she did.

Dan McCoy

[1:26:59] His secret is he went to men's warehouse and then he said,

[1:27:02] wait,

[1:27:02] I am a big Hollywood star.

[1:27:04] Hold on.

[1:27:05] And he left and he got a bespoke suit made for him.

Elliott Kalan

[1:27:08] Yeah.

[1:27:08] And he went to a tailor.

[1:27:09] I will say a men's warehouse is the place to go.

[1:27:12] If you ever want to order a tuxedo and receive pants that are four sizes too large and look like you have elephant legs,

[1:27:17] because that's what happened to me before my sister's wedding.

Stuart Wellington

[1:27:20] Oh,

[1:27:20] that's so funny.

[1:27:22] Did it come with like a giant wallet chain?

Elliott Kalan

[1:27:26] It was like,

[1:27:27] the guy was like,

[1:27:28] here's the outfit.

[1:27:28] And I was like,

[1:27:29] these look ridiculous.

[1:27:30] He's like,

[1:27:30] yeah,

[1:27:30] you look like a clown.

[1:27:31] I was like,

[1:27:32] are there any other pants?

[1:27:33] No,

[1:27:33] those are the only pants.

[1:27:35] It was ridiculous.

Dan McCoy

[1:27:36] So you started a revival swing band.

[1:27:38] Yeah.

[1:27:39] You just had to.

[1:27:40] I had to.

[1:27:40] I had to do it.

[1:27:42] Yeah.

[1:27:43] Hey,

[1:27:43] so Max writes,

[1:27:45] dear floppers,

[1:27:46] I've been thinking a lot about Bugsy Malone since Alan Parker's recent death.

[1:27:50] When I first saw it,

[1:27:52] I must've been about 10 years old,

[1:27:53] circa 1980.

[1:27:56] And among my cohort of tween boys,

[1:27:58] this movie was universally regarded as near perfect.

[1:28:01] No one would say it was as great as Star Wars,

[1:28:04] because it fit into a different category.

[1:28:06] It was just an awesome movie made for us that we were too young to have seen in the theaters,

[1:28:11] but that some had on VHS or caught on TV.

[1:28:14] Before the onslaught of early 80s movies designed to win us over like Raiders,

[1:28:18] E.T.,

[1:28:18] Goonies,

[1:28:19] Gremlins,

[1:28:19] et cetera,

[1:28:20] Bugsy Malone existed to tempt us with the violence that we thought we wanted,

[1:28:24] but instead gave us sweetness,

[1:28:25] friendship,

[1:28:26] and silliness that we really wanted.

[1:28:28] Now,

[1:28:29] the movie is cloying and unwatchable,

[1:28:31] and the sexualization of the two young Jodie Foster and the other showgirls is disturbing.

[1:28:35] But what I would really like to see is a sequel featuring the original cast in a gritty,

[1:28:39] neo-noir gangster drama about middle-aged nostalgia and loss.

[1:28:44] It would need to include Foster in another Oscar-worthy turn as the now washed-up Tallulah,

[1:28:48] real-life convicted fraudster John Cassie,

[1:28:51] Fat Sam,

[1:28:52] trying to return to an unfamiliar world after a long prison sentence,

[1:28:56] and in a redeeming Travolta and Pulp Fiction turn,

[1:28:59] Scott Baio is an aging Don who keeps getting pulled back into the rackets.

[1:29:04] My question,

[1:29:05] take a movie you loved when you were younger.

[1:29:06] Yeah, impossible.

Elliott Kalan

[1:29:07] There's no redemption for him.

[1:29:08] Unredeemable.

Dan McCoy

[1:29:09] Yeah.

[1:29:10] My question,

[1:29:10] take a movie you loved when you were younger.

[1:29:12] How would it have to be remade now to fit your current sensibilities,

[1:29:15] life experiences,

[1:29:16] and tastes?

[1:29:17] Thanks, guys.

[1:29:18] Max,

[1:29:19] last name withheld.

Elliott Kalan

[1:29:20] Thank you for writing in, Max.

[1:29:21] You know who would not like this question?

[1:29:23] Alan Moore.

[1:29:24] Anyway,

[1:29:24] Dan,

[1:29:25] what do you think?

Dan McCoy

[1:29:27] I mean,

[1:29:27] obviously,

[1:29:28] I don't know.

[1:29:30] There's so many movies I liked as a kid

[1:29:32] where I would just not necessarily change much other than,

[1:29:36] like,

[1:29:36] cutting out a few elements.

[1:29:38] Like,

[1:29:38] I watched Monster Squad as part of a Halloween marathon recently.

[1:29:42] I'm like,

[1:29:42] well,

[1:29:43] there are,

[1:29:43] like,

[1:29:43] a couple of homophobic slurs up top that just can be snipped out.

[1:29:47] No problem.

[1:29:48] No need for them.

[1:29:50] And the movie's great.

[1:29:53] But I think in general,

[1:29:54] like,

[1:29:54] it's just,

[1:29:55] I don't know.

[1:29:56] I mean,

[1:29:56] there are movies.

[1:29:59] I mean,

[1:30:00] honestly,

[1:30:00] I don't know that my sensibilities have changed that much.

[1:30:03] I'm a big kid at heart.

[1:30:04] I think we all know that.

[1:30:06] But there are things that I loved,

[1:30:08] like,

[1:30:09] Time Bandits as a kid that kind of,

[1:30:11] like,

[1:30:11] now,

[1:30:11] even though,

[1:30:13] and disclaimer,

[1:30:14] I hate to have to do this,

[1:30:15] but, like,

[1:30:17] more and more of Monty Python,

[1:30:18] I have to be like,

[1:30:19] they're cranky old men who have bad views.

[1:30:22] But,

[1:30:22] but Time Bandits,

[1:30:24] as a kid,

[1:30:24] I loved it.

[1:30:25] And now,

[1:30:25] even though there's a lot in it I still love,

[1:30:28] I'm baffled at my patience as a child.

[1:30:32] Like,

[1:30:33] there's that whole sequence in the middle

[1:30:35] with the dearly,

[1:30:36] recently departed Sean Connery

[1:30:38] that goes on for a long time.

[1:30:41] And unlike the rest of the movie,

[1:30:43] isn't particularly funny,

[1:30:44] doesn't have a lot of visual interests.

[1:30:47] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[1:30:47] Oh, see,

[1:30:48] even as a kid,

[1:30:48] I loved that whole,

[1:30:49] that whole Agamemnon sequence.

[1:30:51] Yeah.

[1:30:51] Because it's about him finding a,

[1:30:52] finding a father figure.

Dan McCoy

[1:30:54] Yeah,

[1:30:54] who abandons him at the end of the movie

[1:30:55] when his real parents blow up.

[1:30:58] Yeah,

[1:30:58] he's alone in the world.

[1:31:00] I mean,

[1:31:00] they're not the same dude.

[1:31:01] I don't think,

Elliott Kalan

[1:31:02] I don't think that firefighter

[1:31:03] and Agamemnon are the same dude.

[1:31:05] Like,

[1:31:05] It gives them a little,

Dan McCoy

[1:31:06] like,

[1:31:06] wink of recognition at the end.

Elliott Kalan

[1:31:08] Well,

[1:31:08] that's because he's creepy Sean Connery.

[1:31:10] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[1:31:11] What do you guys have to say about this?

[1:31:13] I don't know.

Elliott Kalan

[1:31:14] Well,

[1:31:14] that's,

[1:31:14] it's,

[1:31:14] it's interesting that there are certain things like,

[1:31:16] it's like,

[1:31:16] I'm not,

[1:31:17] I don't really want the things I liked as a kid,

[1:31:19] like grown up up.

[1:31:21] Exactly.

[1:31:21] For me.

[1:31:21] You know,

[1:31:22] I am happier having them as kid stuff.

[1:31:25] But like,

[1:31:26] the way you talk about Time Bandits

[1:31:27] reminds me the way I used to watch Godzilla movies

[1:31:28] when I was a kid.

[1:31:30] where I would sit through,

[1:31:31] who knows how many scenes of scientists

[1:31:33] just kind of talking,

[1:31:35] or like government officials

[1:31:36] just not doing much of anything

[1:31:37] to get to the monster parts.

[1:31:39] And,

[1:31:40] it's like,

[1:31:41] I want those scenes to be as exciting

[1:31:42] as the monster scenes.

[1:31:44] Luckily,

[1:31:44] they did it.

[1:31:45] It's called Shin Godzilla,

[1:31:46] and it's awesome.

Stuart Wellington

[1:31:48] The funny thing is,

[1:31:49] like,

[1:31:50] I feel like with a lot of those movies,

[1:31:51] and like with Time Bandits,

[1:31:52] like,

[1:31:53] I watch those movies a lot.

[1:31:55] So like,

[1:31:55] I know there's,

[1:31:56] it's not just that I'm sitting through it

[1:31:58] because I know there's a monster later.

[1:32:00] Like,

[1:32:01] I know there's a monster.

[1:32:02] Like,

[1:32:02] I could just fast forward the tape,

[1:32:04] but I didn't.

[1:32:04] I just watched it.

[1:32:06] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[1:32:07] I mean,

[1:32:07] a movie that we watched a lot

[1:32:08] when I was a kid

[1:32:09] was Coming to America,

[1:32:10] and maybe if there was like,

[1:32:11] they updated it,

[1:32:12] and maybe his son

[1:32:13] has to come to America,

[1:32:14] and he's like looking for his son,

[1:32:16] but Eddie Murphy would never do another

[1:32:17] Coming to America,

[1:32:19] would he?

Stuart Wellington

[1:32:22] Stuart?

[1:32:23] Yeah,

[1:32:24] I mean,

[1:32:24] they're making another Coming to America.

Elliott Kalan

[1:32:26] That was the joke.

[1:32:28] But I'm trying to,

[1:32:28] it's funny,

[1:32:29] the movies that,

[1:32:30] the movies that I,

[1:32:31] that I can think of

[1:32:31] from when I was a kid,

[1:32:32] it's like,

[1:32:32] it's more like,

[1:32:33] I watched a bunch of movies

[1:32:34] where I was like,

[1:32:35] why were my parents

[1:32:35] letting me watch this movie

[1:32:36] when I was a kid?

[1:32:38] Yeah.

[1:32:38] Like,

[1:32:38] this is not a kid's movie,

[1:32:39] but.

Stuart Wellington

[1:32:40] Uh-huh.

[1:32:40] Like,

[1:32:41] when my mom made me watch

[1:32:42] Creepshow 2

[1:32:43] because she thought

[1:32:43] it was hilarious,

[1:32:44] but it fucked me up real bad.

[1:32:47] Yeah.

[1:32:48] In her defense,

[1:32:48] it is hilarious,

[1:32:49] and it's great,

[1:32:50] but man,

[1:32:51] woof.

[1:32:52] I don't know,

[1:32:53] like,

[1:32:53] it's tough.

[1:32:53] I was thinking about this question a lot

[1:32:55] because I feel like so,

[1:32:56] so many times,

[1:32:57] like,

[1:32:58] I don't know if

[1:32:59] updating things will make it,

[1:33:01] make it better.

[1:33:03] Like,

[1:33:04] there was a long time where,

[1:33:06] and I'm sure,

[1:33:06] like,

[1:33:06] a lot of nerds

[1:33:07] were,

[1:33:08] would think of,

[1:33:09] like,

[1:33:09] oh,

[1:33:10] what if they could make this movie

[1:33:11] nowadays,

[1:33:11] but with more modern special effects,

[1:33:13] but I don't know if that's,

[1:33:14] like,

[1:33:15] that doesn't matter as much anymore.

[1:33:17] Like,

[1:33:17] I don't know,

[1:33:18] like,

[1:33:18] I feel like when we got

[1:33:20] better special effects,

[1:33:21] we realized,

[1:33:22] oh,

[1:33:22] better special effects

[1:33:23] doesn't necessarily make the movie

[1:33:25] any better.

[1:33:26] like,

[1:33:26] it's,

[1:33:26] you know,

[1:33:26] it's,

[1:33:27] I don't know,

[1:33:28] I'm just rambling,

[1:33:29] but,

[1:33:29] so,

[1:33:31] there's a very,

[1:33:32] this is a thoughtful question

[1:33:33] that I don't have a good answer for

[1:33:35] is basically what I'm saying.

[1:33:36] Thank you,

[1:33:36] Max.

Dan McCoy

[1:33:38] That's the motto of the Flophouse.

[1:33:41] Thanks for writing in,

Elliott Kalan

[1:33:41] Max.

[1:33:42] Go find those wild things.

Dan McCoy

[1:33:44] Next email.

Elliott Kalan

[1:33:46] Stop chasing your dog with a fork.

Dan McCoy

[1:33:49] The next email is from Kevin Dillon.

[1:33:51] No,

[1:33:51] not that one.

[1:33:52] I broke with the longstanding

[1:33:55] last name with held tradition

[1:33:56] to just give you,

[1:33:57] uh,

[1:33:57] that parenthetical.

[1:33:58] Yeah.

[1:33:59] Yeah.

[1:33:59] Well,

[1:33:59] yeah.

[1:34:00] Uh,

[1:34:01] this is,

[1:34:02] uh,

[1:34:02] it says,

[1:34:02] I know the remit of the podcast

[1:34:04] is to watch a bad movie

[1:34:06] and talk about it,

[1:34:07] but has there ever been a movie

[1:34:08] or series of movies

[1:34:09] you wanted to cover for the show

[1:34:11] even though it doesn't strictly fit

[1:34:13] the show's manifesto?

[1:34:15] Cheers for all the laughs,

[1:34:17] especially this year.

[1:34:18] All the best,

[1:34:20] Kevin.

[1:34:21] Um,

[1:34:23] I mean,

[1:34:24] this is,

[1:34:25] this is interesting

[1:34:25] because like,

[1:34:27] I don't know.

[1:34:28] I flatter,

[1:34:29] I flatter myself

[1:34:29] that we offer

[1:34:31] some good criticism

[1:34:33] from time to time

[1:34:34] on this show,

[1:34:35] but I do

[1:34:36] also enjoy

[1:34:37] that it is a

[1:34:38] comedy show

[1:34:39] foremost,

[1:34:41] at least in my mind.

[1:34:42] Maybe,

[1:34:42] maybe not,

[1:34:43] maybe not lately.

[1:34:44] I don't know how many laughs

[1:34:45] you're getting.

[1:34:46] Who knows?

[1:34:46] But,

[1:34:47] uh,

[1:34:48] write into how many laughs?

Stuart Wellington

[1:34:50] Laugh in your computer

[1:34:50] and then send us

[1:34:51] the readout.

[1:34:52] Yes.

[1:34:52] Send us in Zidana.

Dan McCoy

[1:34:55] You know,

[1:34:55] do it,

[1:34:56] like,

[1:34:56] do some ashy art

[1:34:58] of you laughing

[1:34:59] on a dot matrix printer

[1:35:00] and mail that in.

[1:35:03] Be sure to tear off

Elliott Kalan

[1:35:04] the little,

[1:35:05] the little sprocket holes

[1:35:06] on the sides.

[1:35:07] We don't need those.

[1:35:08] Oh man,

[1:35:08] I had one of those printers.

[1:35:09] It was such a pain in the ass.

Dan McCoy

[1:35:11] I enjoy thinking

[1:35:12] a little more seriously

[1:35:13] about movies,

[1:35:15] um,

[1:35:16] and my outlet these days

[1:35:17] have been like writing

[1:35:18] little letterbox reviews,

[1:35:19] but I don't know.

[1:35:20] I've never been like,

[1:35:21] oh,

[1:35:21] I wish we could do

[1:35:22] this other thing

[1:35:23] because I want to keep it

[1:35:24] so comedy focused,

[1:35:26] but I think if I did,

[1:35:28] it would be

[1:35:29] to examine

[1:35:31] a larger

[1:35:33] sort of filmography

[1:35:34] of a director I like,

[1:35:36] and luckily,

[1:35:37] Blank Check already does that,

[1:35:38] so I don't need to worry about it.

[1:35:40] Uh,

[1:35:40] what do you guys think?

Stuart Wellington

[1:35:43] Uh,

[1:35:43] yeah,

[1:35:44] I mean,

[1:35:44] I think it's,

[1:35:45] uh,

[1:35:45] usually it's things like

[1:35:46] thinking back to movies

[1:35:48] that came out

[1:35:49] before we started

[1:35:50] doing the show

[1:35:50] and thus,

[1:35:51] they fall kind of

[1:35:52] outside of the window

[1:35:53] and I'm sure we could go,

[1:35:54] uh,

[1:35:55] revisit them,

[1:35:55] but like,

[1:35:57] you know,

[1:35:57] we still haven't watched

[1:35:58] Bucky Larson yet

[1:35:59] and I mean,

[1:36:00] that's just,

[1:36:00] that's been hanging there

[1:36:02] like a hangman's music.

Elliott Kalan

[1:36:04] It's a perennial,

[1:36:06] yeah,

[1:36:06] how could we not have it?

[1:36:08] Uh,

[1:36:08] yeah,

[1:36:08] I don't know,

[1:36:09] I mean,

[1:36:09] there's a movie that came up

[1:36:10] during our Exorcist show

[1:36:12] that I can't remember

[1:36:12] what it is now

[1:36:13] where we were like,

[1:36:14] oh,

[1:36:14] that would be a great one

[1:36:14] to do a live show about

[1:36:16] and I don't remember now.

[1:36:18] It might have been Teen Wolf.

[1:36:19] Teen Wolf.

[1:36:20] I feel like that's the movie,

[1:36:21] Teen Wolf is the one movie

[1:36:22] I'm thinking of

[1:36:23] where I'm like,

[1:36:23] maybe it's time for us

[1:36:24] to finally talk about Teen Wolf.

[1:36:26] We need to talk about Teen Wolf,

[1:36:27] the sequel dude.

[1:36:28] We need to talk about Kevin.

[1:36:29] Yeah,

[1:36:29] yeah,

[1:36:30] yeah.

[1:36:32] I mean,

[1:36:33] that would kind of explain

Stuart Wellington

[1:36:34] some of Kevin's behavior.

Elliott Kalan

[1:36:37] This murderer is great

[1:36:39] at basketball.

[1:36:40] Don't you have a problem

[1:36:40] with the fact that he's a murderer?

Stuart Wellington

[1:36:42] Would Tilda Swinton

[1:36:42] also get to be a werewolf

[1:36:44] in it though?

[1:36:45] Because I think she would

[1:36:45] really kill it.

[1:36:47] She would be a great werewolf.

[1:36:48] And John C. Reilly

[1:36:49] would have been a great werewolf.

[1:36:51] Man.

Elliott Kalan

[1:36:51] Yeah,

[1:36:51] but John C. Reilly's gonna be,

[1:36:52] I mean,

[1:36:53] he could,

[1:36:54] I mean,

[1:36:54] now we're just talking about

[1:36:55] making a new Teen Wolf movie

[1:36:56] and John C. Reilly

[1:36:56] could totally be the dad in that.

[1:36:58] But we don't know.

[1:36:58] He'd be great.

Stuart Wellington

[1:37:00] Wait,

[1:37:00] did Kevin kill John C. Reilly

[1:37:03] in that movie

[1:37:03] with a bow and arrow

[1:37:04] or a gun?

[1:37:06] I think it was a bow and arrow.

[1:37:08] And was it a silver tip on that?

[1:37:10] Because I think

[1:37:11] if he was a werewolf,

[1:37:13] he could survive it.

[1:37:13] Right, guys?

Elliott Kalan

[1:37:14] Sure.

[1:37:15] It just needs to have silver on there.

[1:37:16] Yeah.

[1:37:16] And then it'll kill him.

Dan McCoy

[1:37:18] I know that like,

[1:37:19] if this movie existed

[1:37:21] in real life,

[1:37:22] Elliot would probably hate it

[1:37:23] because they would get

[1:37:24] the wrong people

[1:37:24] to work on it.

[1:37:26] But I do think

[1:37:27] a comedy remake

[1:37:29] of The Wolfman

[1:37:30] starring John C. Reilly

[1:37:31] could be very funny.

Elliott Kalan

[1:37:32] Oh,

[1:37:33] I think that,

[1:37:33] it's only the difference of

[1:37:35] is it gonna be

[1:37:36] the kind of comedy

[1:37:37] where it's just ad-lib

[1:37:38] non-stop?

[1:37:39] Yeah.

[1:37:39] Or is it gonna be like

[1:37:40] a real movie

[1:37:40] that has jokes in it?

[1:37:41] He would be fantastic in that.

Stuart Wellington

[1:37:42] No, Elliot,

[1:37:43] I want my comedies

[1:37:44] to have a complete

[1:37:46] like mirror image version

[1:37:48] that is just alternate takes

[1:37:50] that you can easily

[1:37:50] sell in the DVD box.

Elliott Kalan

[1:37:53] Well, it's like,

[1:37:54] are each of the scenes

[1:37:54] gonna be sketches

[1:37:55] or are we gonna have a real,

[1:37:57] because there's a lot of,

[1:37:58] that would be really good.

[1:37:58] Dan, you should write that

[1:37:59] and then send it to John C. Reilly.

Dan McCoy

[1:38:01] Yeah.

[1:38:02] Okay.

[1:38:03] You know,

[1:38:03] I just got him

[1:38:04] on my contact list,

[1:38:05] so I'll do it.

[1:38:05] You know,

Stuart Wellington

[1:38:06] I'll pick up my yellow pages.

[1:38:08] I'll see if I can find his address.

[1:38:11] Mm-hmm.

[1:38:12] Just look it up under Reilly.

[1:38:14] Mm-hmm.

Dan McCoy

[1:38:14] Yeah.

[1:38:15] Well,

[1:38:16] I think this is the part

[1:38:17] where we talk about

[1:38:17] recommendations,

[1:38:18] movies that you probably

[1:38:19] should watch

[1:38:19] instead of Men in Black

[1:38:20] International.

Elliott Kalan

[1:38:22] Here come the

[1:38:23] recommendations.

[1:38:24] Movies we actually liked.

[1:38:27] Here come the movie, Rex.

[1:38:28] Here come the movie, Rex.

Dan McCoy

[1:38:30] Partly because

[1:38:31] I actually liked it

[1:38:32] quite a bit

[1:38:33] and partly to ignore,

[1:38:34] ignore,

[1:38:35] to annoy Stuart.

[1:38:37] What?

[1:38:37] Partly to annoy Stuart,

[1:38:39] I'm gonna recommend,

[1:38:40] You're gonna recommend

Stuart Wellington

[1:38:40] Game of Thrones

[1:38:41] the TV show

[1:38:42] or some shit?

Dan McCoy

[1:38:43] I'm gonna recommend

[1:38:44] American Utopia,

[1:38:46] the David Byrne concert,

[1:38:48] the Broadway show

[1:38:49] that was captured

[1:38:50] by Spike Lee

[1:38:51] and is available

[1:38:52] now on HBO Max.

Elliott Kalan

[1:38:55] It was captured

[1:38:55] by Spike Lee

[1:38:56] and kept in a cage

[1:38:57] in his basement.

Dan McCoy

[1:38:58] He put it in a

[1:39:00] little mason jar

[1:39:02] and sometimes he would

[1:39:02] shake it

[1:39:03] to see it get agitated.

[1:39:05] Eventually,

Elliott Kalan

[1:39:05] he got a bid

[1:39:06] from the National Zoo

[1:39:08] in Washington, D.C.

[1:39:09] and that's where

[1:39:09] it lives now.

Dan McCoy

[1:39:10] I never smashed

[1:39:14] buy tickets

[1:39:15] so hard

[1:39:15] as when I got

[1:39:16] a chance to

[1:39:17] see the show

[1:39:18] on Broadway.

[1:39:20] I was like,

[1:39:20] you know,

[1:39:21] I don't care,

[1:39:22] I'm not gonna look

[1:39:22] at the price,

[1:39:23] David Byrne is doing

[1:39:24] a Broadway show,

[1:39:25] I'm gonna see this.

[1:39:26] I saw it

[1:39:27] live on Broadway,

[1:39:29] it was a fantastic

[1:39:29] experience,

[1:39:30] and the movie

[1:39:31] is also a fantastic

[1:39:32] and different experience.

[1:39:33] You know,

[1:39:35] it's staged

[1:39:36] for the theater,

[1:39:38] obviously,

[1:39:39] so some of it

[1:39:40] in a movie

[1:39:41] you're missing

[1:39:42] the experience

[1:39:42] of not only

[1:39:44] the immediacy

[1:39:45] but like seeing

[1:39:46] the whole stage

[1:39:46] at once,

[1:39:47] but it is a very

[1:39:47] smartly shot movie

[1:39:49] in a way that,

[1:39:51] you know,

[1:39:52] stopped making

[1:39:53] sense is.

[1:39:54] It's not the movie

[1:39:56] that stopped making

[1:39:56] sense is,

[1:39:57] but nothing could be

[1:39:58] as a concert movie

[1:39:59] that's really

[1:40:00] a high benchmark,

[1:40:01] but it is a

[1:40:02] very good movie,

[1:40:03] a very joyful

[1:40:04] concert film,

[1:40:06] and especially

[1:40:07] right now,

[1:40:09] just something

[1:40:09] that's fun

[1:40:11] and uplifting.

[1:40:13] American Utopia,

[1:40:14] I enjoyed it a lot.

Elliott Kalan

[1:40:16] I can't wait

[1:40:17] to see it,

[1:40:17] I haven't watched it yet,

[1:40:18] but I can't wait

[1:40:19] to see it.

Stuart Wellington

[1:40:19] What's that on,

[1:40:20] HBO Max or something?

[1:40:21] I do believe so.

Elliott Kalan

[1:40:23] Mm-hmm,

[1:40:24] Hobo Max.

[1:40:26] Hobo Max is a hobo

[1:40:27] who wanders

[1:40:28] through the neighborhood

[1:40:28] collecting cans.

[1:40:29] Uh-huh,

[1:40:30] but he's pretty extreme,

Stuart Wellington

[1:40:32] he only collects

[1:40:32] Mountain Dew cans.

[1:40:33] Mountain Dew cans.

Elliott Kalan

[1:40:34] Yeah,

[1:40:34] Mountain Dew cans

Stuart Wellington

[1:40:36] and Surge,

[1:40:37] yeah,

[1:40:37] that's all.

Dan McCoy

[1:40:38] Specifically,

[1:40:39] the most extreme.

Stuart Wellington

[1:40:41] Yeah,

[1:40:41] and Takis,

[1:40:43] but those aren't cans,

[1:40:44] that's bags.

Elliott Kalan

[1:40:46] He's the hobo

[1:40:47] who has a GoPro,

[1:40:47] GoPro Hobo,

[1:40:48] they call him,

[1:40:49] Hobo Max.

Dan McCoy

[1:40:50] Hey,

[1:40:50] Elliot,

[1:40:50] you're already talking,

[1:40:51] why don't you

[1:40:52] recommend something?

Elliott Kalan

[1:40:53] Oh,

[1:40:54] sure,

[1:40:54] I know it's,

[1:40:55] we're releasing this

[1:40:56] after Halloween

[1:40:56] and recording it

[1:40:57] after Halloween,

[1:40:58] so the time for horror

[1:40:58] movies is over.

[1:41:00] That being said,

[1:41:00] I finally got to watch

[1:41:02] a horror movie this month.

[1:41:02] I watched a new movie

[1:41:04] that's on Netflix.

[1:41:08] It's called His House.

[1:41:09] Oh,

[1:41:09] I watched some of that

Dan McCoy

[1:41:10] last night,

[1:41:11] it was great.

Elliott Kalan

[1:41:11] Yeah,

[1:41:12] it's directed by Remy,

[1:41:14] Remy Weeks,

[1:41:14] and it stars

[1:41:15] Wonmi Wasaku

[1:41:16] and Sopei Derisu,

[1:41:17] I'm sure I'm pronouncing

[1:41:18] their names wrong,

[1:41:19] and it tells the story

[1:41:19] about two refugees

[1:41:21] from Sudan,

[1:41:22] a husband and wife,

[1:41:23] who are trying to

[1:41:24] restart their lives

[1:41:25] in England

[1:41:26] and are dealing with

[1:41:28] both the unsettling

[1:41:31] feeling of trying

[1:41:32] to start a new life

[1:41:33] in a place where

[1:41:34] they are seen

[1:41:35] as outsiders

[1:41:35] and they don't

[1:41:36] feel comfortable,

[1:41:38] but also,

[1:41:38] they are quite literally

[1:41:40] haunted by the things

[1:41:42] that they've left

[1:41:42] behind them

[1:41:43] and perhaps

[1:41:44] their history,

[1:41:45] and it's really,

[1:41:47] really well done.

[1:41:47] I thought it was really great

[1:41:49] and it just goes to show,

[1:41:51] I think horror is,

[1:41:52] and I'm not the first person

[1:41:53] to say this

[1:41:54] and I'm not alone in it,

[1:41:54] it's probably the best genre

[1:41:56] for dealing with traumas

[1:41:58] that are hard to talk about

[1:42:00] through drama

[1:42:01] without coming off

[1:42:02] as either pretentious

[1:42:04] or luxury or cloying

[1:42:05] and so it does a very good job

[1:42:08] of giving a little taste

[1:42:11] of the kind of post-traumatic

[1:42:13] stress and feelings

[1:42:15] things that come with

[1:42:15] being someone

[1:42:17] who's a refugee

[1:42:17] from a violent situation,

[1:42:18] but it's also just like

[1:42:20] a really solid,

[1:42:21] like,

[1:42:22] really well done horror movie,

[1:42:23] it's got lots of good scares

[1:42:24] and it looks beautiful,

[1:42:26] so,

[1:42:26] and the acting's great in it,

[1:42:27] so,

[1:42:28] His House,

[1:42:28] now on Netflix.

Stuart Wellington

[1:42:30] Yeah,

[1:42:30] I put that on last night

[1:42:32] after work

[1:42:33] and I was like,

[1:42:34] oh,

[1:42:34] you know,

[1:42:35] you are introduced

[1:42:36] to the characters

[1:42:36] and you find out

[1:42:37] that they're refugees

[1:42:38] and I'm like,

[1:42:38] how can this movie

[1:42:39] be scarier

[1:42:40] than what they're

[1:42:41] already going through

[1:42:41] and then,

[1:42:42] it,

[1:42:42] you know,

[1:42:43] is a scary movie.

Elliott Kalan

[1:42:44] Oh,

[1:42:44] there's a scene

[1:42:45] where,

[1:42:46] where Rial,

[1:42:47] the wife of the two,

[1:42:49] she is,

[1:42:49] she has to get

[1:42:50] from the house

[1:42:51] that they've been given

[1:42:52] as a,

[1:42:52] on a probationary

[1:42:53] trial basis

[1:42:54] from the government

[1:42:55] to the doctor's office

[1:42:57] and she's just getting

[1:42:58] lost in these streets

[1:42:59] and does not know

[1:43:00] how she can ask someone

[1:43:01] for help

[1:43:01] or how to get there

[1:43:02] and it is,

[1:43:02] that scene alone

[1:43:04] is frightening,

[1:43:05] just feeling that lost.

[1:43:06] It just is,

[1:43:07] they did a really

[1:43:07] fantastic job with it.

[1:43:09] Su,

[1:43:09] what have you seen

[1:43:10] the rest of though?

Stuart Wellington

[1:43:11] Equally serious,

[1:43:12] I'm going to recommend

[1:43:13] a movie called

[1:43:14] Welcome to Sudden Death,

[1:43:16] the sequel

[1:43:17] or remake

[1:43:18] or reboot

[1:43:19] of the Jean-Claude Van Damme

[1:43:21] top tier action movie

[1:43:23] Sudden Death.

[1:43:24] This movie does not feature

[1:43:25] Jean-Claude Van Damme

[1:43:26] or Powers Booth,

[1:43:27] I think because Powers Booth

[1:43:28] died in the movie,

[1:43:29] his character,

[1:43:30] not the actor.

[1:43:32] I mean,

[1:43:32] Powers Booth did die though,

[1:43:33] didn't he?

[1:43:33] Yeah,

[1:43:34] but not in the filming

[1:43:35] of Sudden Death.

[1:43:36] It wasn't like,

[1:43:36] I'm not going to make

[1:43:37] a weird joke.

[1:43:38] Okay,

[1:43:39] so,

[1:43:39] this movie,

[1:43:41] this movie stars

[1:43:42] action superstar

[1:43:43] Michael J. White,

[1:43:45] you may know him as

[1:43:46] Spawn of course,

[1:43:47] where he takes over

[1:43:49] the role of a security guard

[1:43:50] but this time

[1:43:51] instead of

[1:43:51] at a hockey arena,

[1:43:53] he's a security guard

[1:43:54] at a basketball arena.

[1:43:56] You're probably wondering,

[1:43:57] but wait a minute,

[1:43:58] it's called

[1:43:59] Welcome to Sudden Death.

[1:44:00] Basketball doesn't feature

[1:44:01] sudden death.

[1:44:02] You're worrying too much

[1:44:03] about this movie.

[1:44:04] Chill out,

[1:44:05] it's an action movie.

[1:44:07] It's fairly,

[1:44:09] it feels fairly cheap

[1:44:10] but it's also super fun

[1:44:12] and dumb.

[1:44:13] It feels like a,

[1:44:15] like a return to like,

[1:44:17] just like Sudden Death,

[1:44:18] the Jean-Claude Van Damme movie,

[1:44:19] it feels like a return

[1:44:20] to that kind of

[1:44:21] filmmaking.

[1:44:22] All the fight scenes

[1:44:23] kind of feel like,

[1:44:25] they all have the setup

[1:44:28] of almost like a,

[1:44:29] the moment when a cutscene

[1:44:31] goes into an actual match

[1:44:33] in like a Mortal Kombat game

[1:44:35] and you're like,

Dan McCoy

[1:44:36] oh fuck,

[1:44:36] I gotta grab my controller.

Stuart Wellington

[1:44:38] I was too busy

[1:44:39] scanning Twitter

[1:44:39] or something.

[1:44:41] And it's great,

[1:44:42] there's a great fight scene

[1:44:43] between Michael J. White

[1:44:44] and his real life wife,

[1:44:47] man,

[1:44:48] that was a great line,

[1:44:49] real life wife,

[1:44:50] Gillian White,

[1:44:52] that is both a great fight scene

[1:44:54] and also has

[1:44:55] the nuttiest ending

[1:44:56] of a fight scene.

[1:44:58] And there's also a fight scene

[1:44:59] in a locker room

[1:45:00] that is fucking sweet.

[1:45:02] So,

[1:45:03] if you need to check

[1:45:04] your brain at the door

[1:45:05] and get a little bit

[1:45:06] of action in your life,

[1:45:08] welcome to Sudden Death.

[1:45:10] Now playing on Netflix.

[1:45:11] What is,

[1:45:12] what does he say about us?

[1:45:13] And I gotta say,

[1:45:14] there's a fucking character

[1:45:15] in this movie

[1:45:15] named Gus

[1:45:16] who I can't tell

[1:45:18] if he's a ghost

[1:45:19] or if he's like

[1:45:20] a figment

[1:45:21] of this guy's imagination.

[1:45:23] It's,

[1:45:24] I've watched it

[1:45:25] a couple times

[1:45:25] and I can't tell.

Elliott Kalan

[1:45:29] I like any movie

[1:45:31] where you,

[1:45:31] where you can,

[1:45:32] you can say,

[1:45:33] I'm not sure

[1:45:33] if this character

[1:45:34] is a ghost.

[1:45:35] Yeah,

Stuart Wellington

[1:45:35] there's so many scenes

[1:45:36] of him like,

[1:45:38] but like,

[1:45:38] and like Gus will show up

[1:45:39] and he'll be,

[1:45:40] then he'll do like

[1:45:41] Benny Hill

[1:45:42] or like,

[1:45:43] Benny Hill

[1:45:43] or like Scooby-Doo style

[1:45:45] like running around

[1:45:46] away from the terrorists.

[1:45:48] It's so weird.

[1:45:49] Oh man,

[1:45:50] it's great.

[1:45:51] Welcome to Sudden Death.

[1:45:52] Check it out.

Dan McCoy

[1:45:55] Elliot,

[1:45:56] I think you had an observation

[1:45:57] about our movie choices

[1:45:58] that you,

[1:45:59] Oh no,

[1:45:59] it's just,

Elliott Kalan

[1:46:00] I always,

[1:46:01] I don't know why

[1:46:01] I always remember

[1:46:02] that,

[1:46:03] that he is Spawn

[1:46:04] and I never remember

[1:46:05] that he's Black Dynamite

[1:46:07] even though I enjoyed

[1:46:07] Black Dynamite

[1:46:08] so much more than Spawn.

[1:46:10] Yeah,

[1:46:10] yeah.

[1:46:10] But I guess it's the first role

[1:46:11] you see somebody in

[1:46:12] that's just what they,

[1:46:13] although that's not even true

[1:46:14] because I saw him

[1:46:14] in the Tyson TV movie

[1:46:16] before I saw Spawn.

[1:46:16] I don't know what it is.

[1:46:18] Yeah,

Elliott Kalan

[1:46:18] Black Dynamite is really great.

Stuart Wellington

[1:46:19] I mean,

[1:46:20] it's because it's Spawn,

[1:46:21] like,

[1:46:21] it's such,

[1:46:22] I feel like the Spawn movie

[1:46:23] is such a weird thing.

[1:46:24] Like,

[1:46:25] it's such an artifact

[1:46:25] of superhero movies.

Elliott Kalan

[1:46:27] Yeah.

[1:46:29] There's that scene

[1:46:30] where John Leguizamo

[1:46:30] as a,

[1:46:31] what's his name?

[1:46:33] Violator.

[1:46:33] He is talking

[1:46:34] to a little girl

[1:46:35] and he has a balloon

[1:46:36] that turns into his own head

[1:46:37] and she does not react at all

[1:46:39] and I remember seeing that

[1:46:40] and being like,

[1:46:41] wait,

[1:46:41] so what's going on here?

[1:46:43] Like,

[1:46:44] this is something

[1:46:44] a regular person

[1:46:45] would be terrified by.

Dan McCoy

[1:46:48] Well,

[1:46:48] guys,

[1:46:49] that's it.

[1:46:51] The show.

[1:46:52] It's called The Flophouse.

[1:46:53] We're on it.

[1:46:54] We host it.

[1:46:55] You listen to it.

[1:46:55] Was this just a trailer

Elliott Kalan

[1:46:56] for The Flophouse?

[1:46:57] Wow.

[1:46:58] Because it's long.

[1:46:58] A long trailer.

Dan McCoy

[1:46:59] A very unusual one,

[1:47:01] too.

[1:47:02] So,

Elliott Kalan

[1:47:02] in the middle of an episode

[1:47:03] of Jordan,

[1:47:04] Jesse,

[1:47:04] Go!

[1:47:05] There's just going to be

[1:47:05] a two-hour promo ad

[1:47:07] for The Flophouse.

Dan McCoy

[1:47:09] It's the only way

[1:47:10] we can get more listeners

[1:47:12] because,

[1:47:13] because short ads

[1:47:15] don't really give

[1:47:16] a good flavor.

[1:47:17] Anyway,

[1:47:18] listen,

[1:47:20] thank you to Jordan

[1:47:21] for editing the show

[1:47:23] and producing it.

[1:47:24] Thank you to...

[1:47:25] Jordan Cowling?

[1:47:26] Jordan Cowling.

[1:47:28] Thank you to Annabelle Gerwitch

[1:47:29] for being our guest.

[1:47:31] Yep.

[1:47:32] Thank you all for listening.

Elliott Kalan

[1:47:33] I thought she did a great job

[1:47:35] considering she hadn't

[1:47:36] seen a different movie.

[1:47:37] Considering she...

Stuart Wellington

[1:47:38] It was bound to happen someday

Dan McCoy

[1:47:40] and she was...

[1:47:41] Yeah,

Dan McCoy

[1:47:41] no,

[1:47:41] it really was.

[1:47:42] I honestly thought

[1:47:43] One of Us was going to be

[1:47:44] the first one to do it

[1:47:45] because we have done movies

[1:47:46] where there are several

[1:47:48] other movies with the same title

[1:47:49] and there have been

[1:47:51] like sort of panicked texts

[1:47:52] back and forth

[1:47:53] every once in a while

[1:47:54] being like,

[1:47:54] is this the one

[1:47:55] that I was supposed to watch?

Elliott Kalan

[1:47:56] That's why I checked

[1:47:57] about Uninvited.

[1:47:58] I was like,

[1:47:58] this is the movie,

[1:47:59] right?

[1:47:59] The one with the cat

[1:48:00] from the 80s

[1:48:01] because there's like

[1:48:01] 10 movies called Uninvited.

[1:48:03] And there was that time,

Stuart Wellington

[1:48:05] at least one time,

[1:48:06] I feel like when we were

[1:48:07] recording old style,

[1:48:08] Dan,

[1:48:08] you fell asleep through

[1:48:09] like a third of the movie

[1:48:10] and we just rolled with it

[1:48:11] and that was great.

Dan McCoy

[1:48:13] Yep.

[1:48:14] So,

[1:48:14] you know,

[1:48:15] that's the kind of

[1:48:17] rickety

[1:48:18] enterprise we're running here.

[1:48:21] Yeah.

[1:48:21] But thank you for listening to it.

[1:48:24] And thanks to our network Maximum Fun for being our network.

[1:48:29] But all things must come to an end, including this episode and me talking.

[1:48:33] So I've been Dan McCoy.

[1:48:35] I've been Stuart Wellington.

[1:48:36] And this is Elliot Kalin over here.

[1:48:40] Bye.

[1:48:51] Yeah, that is a catalog I only know from comic references to it.

[1:49:01] Yep.

Elliott Kalan

[1:49:02] That line of clothing I only know from comedy.

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