Ep. #339 - Zack Snyder's Justice League TWO: Pt 4 - Epilogue

S4

[0:00] Previously on The Flophouse.

Dan McCoy

[0:02] He dies so loud that everyone across the world hears it.

[0:06] Just like his death scream goes all over the place.

[0:10] Yeah, it's like, oh!

[0:12] Aquaman's like, I don't owe anyone anything.

[0:15] And he goes into the water and the women sing in Icelandic for a long time

Stuart Wellington

[0:20] because this is Zack Snyder cut.

[0:22] For a long time.

[0:23] Wonder Woman, in the process of saving people,

[0:26] destroys as much shit as possible.

Elliott Kalan

[0:28] If I'm going to complain about The Flash,

[0:30] it's going to be the fact that I think his characterization

[0:31] was inspired by the Bazinga t-shirts that looked like The Flash logo.

Stuart Wellington

[0:36] I understand that you're living on this special Amazon island,

[0:39] but have like one phone.

[0:40] At one point he takes his fucking tank top off to go swimming,

[0:43] and I'm like, but he's wearing jeans to swim?

[0:46] That's fucking crazy.

Dan McCoy

[0:48] It's a blah, blah, blah exposition scene.

[0:51] Blah, blah, blah.

[0:52] I don't know.

[0:53] They're like, go someplace and fight people.

[0:56] On this episode we discuss,

[0:58] Zack Snyder's Justice League, part two.

Stuart Wellington

[1:02] So light some candles,

[1:04] break out the baby oil,

[1:05] and cue up Lay It Down by Rat,

[1:09] because we're going to be going for hours.

[1:15] It's pretty hot, right?

[1:16] Hey everyone, and welcome to the Flophouse.

Dan McCoy

[1:45] I am Dan McCoy.

[1:48] What?

Elliott Kalan

[1:49] I guess that means I'm Stuart Wellington?

[1:53] And unfortunately that means I'm the third of the group,

[1:56] Elliot Kalin.

[1:57] Not as handsome as Stuart,

[1:58] not as freewheeling a spirit as Dan,

[2:00] weighed down by my family and responsibilities,

[2:03] and yet somehow with an inner nobility

[2:05] that only I know,

[2:07] that I have been imbued with the great power of the cosmic conundrum.

[2:11] That's right.

[2:12] The cosmic conundrum.

[2:13] A question asked at the very beginning of the universe,

[2:16] which exists only in my own head.

[2:18] That question,

[2:19] hey, so did the baby from Dinosaurs get a chance to grow up,

[2:23] or did they all go extinct at the end of that series?

[2:24] Because I want to see that baby grow up.

Dan McCoy

[2:27] Uh, what?

[2:28] I think canonically they all did go extinct at the end of the series.

Elliott Kalan

[2:32] But this,

[2:33] let me finish this cosmic conundrum,

[2:34] has gifted me with strange and eerie powers.

[2:37] The ability to see three seconds into the future,

[2:40] not enough to change anything,

[2:41] but enough to feel bad before something bad happens.

Dan McCoy

[2:45] Okay.

[2:46] Kind of like a next.

[2:46] So I'm really Kaelin.

[2:47] Sorry, I thought that what you were going to say was going to tie into

[2:52] what I had said,

[2:54] rather than just being another thing.

Elliott Kalan

[2:55] Oh, well, you said,

[2:56] no, but I didn't want to dwell on the fact

[2:58] that the most beloved television character of all time,

[2:59] the dinosaur baby from Dinosaurs,

[3:01] died at a very young age.

[3:03] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[3:05] Tragically.

[3:05] Well, this is the Flophouse.

[3:07] It's a podcast about...

Elliott Kalan

[3:09] I love the idea that that was what they said on the news.

[3:11] I go, tragic.

[3:12] And now in a sadder story,

[3:14] tragically, baby dinosaur has passed,

[3:16] along with all other dinosaurs,

[3:18] thanks to the extinction.

[3:19] Known for not being the mama.

[3:20] Well, wait a minute.

[3:21] Excuse me, Dan.

[3:22] Actually, Dan's right.

[3:24] Technically, Dan's right.

[3:26] To quote Phoenix Wright, I object.

[3:28] Counselor, it was Earl Sinclair, his father,

[3:32] who was labeled not the mama.

[3:33] It was the baby who was judging who was a mama

[3:36] and who was not the mama.

Stuart Wellington

[3:37] By the goddamn transitive property,

[3:39] if Earl is not the mama,

[3:41] then everyone else is the mama?

Elliott Kalan

[3:44] That's exactly what I'm saying.

[3:46] That's exactly what I'm saying.

[3:47] Until Judge Dinosaur Baby rules otherwise

[3:51] on each single individual.

[3:53] And you can't take issue with it

[3:54] because you gotta love him.

[3:55] I mean, technically, when you think about it,

Dan McCoy

[3:58] the dinosaurs were mama's family.

[4:01] That's true.

Stuart Wellington

[4:03] Interesting.

[4:04] I gotta agree with Dan on this one, Elliot.

[4:06] I mean, I don't want to, but the math is solid.

Dan McCoy

[4:09] The algebra is tight on that one.

[4:11] So, Dan, what do we do on this podcast?

[4:13] This is a podcast where we watch a bad movie

[4:15] and we talk about it.

[4:17] Normally, this would be a week for a Flophouse many.

[4:20] Our off-week episodes where we sort of

[4:23] are more freewheeling and do whatever the hell we want.

[4:27] As opposed to this episode

[4:28] where we are sticking to our remit

Elliott Kalan

[4:30] of talking about Baby Dinosaur

[4:32] and his judicial abilities.

Stuart Wellington

[4:34] Yeah.

[4:35] Conan the Barbarian is standing over my shoulder

[4:37] and should we stray too long

[4:39] from the path we are supposed to tread,

[4:41] he will chop my head clean from my body.

Dan McCoy

[4:43] I never meant to indicate that on a normal episode

[4:48] we stick to the topic,

[4:50] just that the topic exists.

[4:53] And in this case, the topic is the second half

[4:55] of Zack Snyder's Justice League.

[4:58] This is, let's call this a mini full episode.

[5:03] We're going to tie up the plot of Justice League

[5:05] but not do the regular end of show stuff.

Stuart Wellington

[5:08] But, Stuart.

[5:09] Dan, if I was going to stick it on my shelf

[5:11] with all the other sodes and mini sodes,

[5:15] where would I file it?

[5:16] Would it be in the minis or the regulars?

Dan McCoy

[5:18] You know what?

[5:19] I mean, it'll still have,

[5:21] it'll be numbered like a regular show.

[5:23] Okay.

[5:24] But it'll be like that time

[5:26] when they put out all those Simpsons box sets

[5:29] that were like character cases

[5:30] and they looked really lousy

[5:32] next to the normal boxes that you already owned.

[5:35] Uh-huh.

Stuart Wellington

[5:36] Did you, but you kept the box,

[5:38] did you keep those or did you throw them away?

Dan McCoy

[5:40] What happened was people whined long enough

[5:43] that the company,

[5:46] that Fox issued DVDs

[5:48] that were in line with the original packaging.

[5:51] You know.

Elliott Kalan

[5:52] Now, what I like is that story

[5:53] seems like it was unrelated

[5:54] but it is exactly that sort of

[5:56] total waste of everyone's time

[5:58] answering of a fan's whining complaint

[6:01] that brought us this movie,

[6:02] Zack Snyder's Justice League.

Stuart Wellington

[6:04] Oh.

[6:05] Let's get to it.

[6:06] Yeah, so let's get right into it.

[6:07] And we are,

[6:08] as I think we mentioned in the last episode,

[6:12] we have worked our way through chapters one through four

[6:16] and we are now in chapter five,

[6:20] title,

[6:21] Who is Harry Crumb?

[6:23] Wait.

[6:25] So.

[6:25] Stuart, did you

Dan McCoy

[6:26] actually click on

[6:28] Who's Harry Crumb

[6:29] in the HBO Max streaming library

[6:32] and watch that?

Stuart Wellington

[6:33] Well, the thumbnail was black and white

[6:35] and everybody looked really unhappy

[6:37] in the picture

[6:38] so I assumed it was Justice League.

Elliott Kalan

[6:41] Now, I'm gonna,

[6:42] I promised myself

[6:43] I wouldn't do this anymore

[6:44] but I am going to jump on Dan's mispronunciation

[6:46] and say,

[6:47] wouldn't it be amazing

[6:48] if it was Who's Harry Crumb

[6:49] and it was about Heidi Klum's brother

[6:51] who pronounces it slightly differently.

Stuart Wellington

[6:54] And spells it differently.

Elliott Kalan

[6:56] And spells it differently, yeah.

[6:59] Okay, so.

[7:01] Now, do you think Harry,

[7:02] Harry Crumb is related to our Crumb?

[7:04] I didn't,

[7:04] I never saw who's Harry Crumb.

[7:05] Is that,

[7:06] is our Crumb the one looking for him?

[7:07] Well, as I said,

[7:08] that's the title of the chapter

[7:09] so we'll find out.

[7:10] So the,

Stuart Wellington

[7:11] so we see our heroes

[7:13] who have now decided

[7:14] that they're going to use the

[7:15] mother box

[7:16] to revive

[7:18] the recently deceased Superman.

[7:21] So our heroes are doing

[7:23] a little bit of grave robbing.

[7:27] They,

[7:27] all of a sudden,

[7:28] I was trying to remember

[7:29] the police code for grave robbing.

[7:31] I think it's 138, right?

[7:34] So they are digging up Superman's body.

[7:36] There's a little banter.

[7:38] Yeah, there's a,

[7:39] there's a point where like

Dan McCoy

[7:40] Cyborg's like,

[7:42] oh, you know,

[7:43] or like the Flash is like,

[7:45] oh, we could do this in a nanosecond.

[7:47] You know that, right?

[7:48] And Cyborg's like,

[7:49] yeah, I know.

[7:51] As if like,

[7:52] they're doing it slowly

[7:54] out of respect

[7:55] for Superman.

[7:57] Whereas I'm like,

[7:58] guys,

[7:59] the earth is on the line.

[8:00] Just use your superpowers.

[8:02] It's not going to be

[8:03] less respectful

[8:04] of this grave robbing

[8:05] you're doing

[8:06] if you do it really fast.

Stuart Wellington

[8:07] Elliot, yeah,

[8:08] what do you think?

[8:08] Are you,

[8:09] Elliot's like,

[8:10] no, Dan's right.

[8:12] I totally agree.

[8:13] I totally agree.

[8:14] If it's the choice,

Elliott Kalan

[8:15] if it's the choice

[8:16] between saving the world

[8:18] and respecting the memory

[8:19] of a man who killed thousands

[8:20] fighting General Zod

[8:22] as collateral damage

[8:23] and then got himself killed

[8:25] fighting Doomsday for,

[8:26] I'm not sure what reason

[8:27] because it seems like

[8:28] Lex Luthor was only out

[8:29] to hurt Superman

[8:30] and not out to do much

[8:31] of anything.

[8:31] Basically,

[8:32] my issue is,

[8:33] I never really understand

[8:35] in these movies

[8:35] why,

[8:36] I know why in the DC Universe,

[8:38] Superman is so respected

[8:39] and why when he died,

[8:40] it was a tragedy

[8:41] because he's the greatest

[8:42] of all heroes

[8:43] and he's been around

[8:44] for years saving the world.

[8:45] in the Snyderverse,

[8:47] DC,

[8:48] DCCU,

[8:49] the Detective Comics

[8:50] Cinematic Universe,

[8:51] Superman hasn't been around

[8:52] that long,

[8:53] so I don't know why

[8:54] he is considered

[8:54] the ne plus ultra

[8:56] of humanity.

Dan McCoy

[8:57] Yeah,

[8:58] I mean,

[8:58] according to the previous movies,

[9:00] people seemed to hate him

[9:02] most of the time

[9:03] he was around too.

Elliott Kalan

[9:04] It's kind of like

[9:05] if Sully Sullenberger,

[9:06] someday he will pass

[9:07] and I'll be very sad about it,

[9:09] but if when he did,

[9:09] they built a huge monument

[9:10] for him,

[9:11] he saved a bunch

[9:11] of people once

[9:12] and he seems like

[9:13] a pretty good guy mostly.

[9:14] They built a huge monument

[9:15] for him

[9:16] and then nobody in the world

[9:17] was happy ever again.

Stuart Wellington

[9:19] Yeah,

[9:19] I mean,

[9:19] I feel like every,

[9:20] the way that the DC Universe,

[9:22] DC Cinematic Universe

[9:24] deals with Superman

[9:25] is not unlike the end

[9:27] of the second Harry Potter film

[9:29] where like,

[9:30] all of a sudden

[9:31] the big end of the movie

[9:33] is Hagrid gets his job back

[9:35] and like all the kids

[9:36] are losing their fucking minds

[9:38] and you're like,

[9:38] what's the fucking big deal?

[9:40] I didn't think people cared

[9:41] like,

[9:42] it's not like that was

[9:43] the point of the movie,

[9:44] but I guess it is.

Dan McCoy

[9:46] And it would be weird

[9:47] if he didn't get his job

[9:48] back in the city.

Elliott Kalan

[9:50] No,

[9:50] but I'm sure they,

[9:51] I haven't seen all the movies.

[9:52] I'm sure most of the rest of them

[9:53] are about Hagrid's career development

[9:54] from that point on.

[9:55] Yeah,

[9:56] yeah,

[9:56] yeah.

[9:57] So,

[9:57] yeah.

[9:57] I mean,

[9:58] the way the DCU deals

[10:00] with Superman

[10:01] is the way they deal

[10:02] with Jesus Christ

[10:03] in the end of the Bible

[10:04] where he is,

[10:05] you know,

[10:06] he's the single greatest thing

[10:07] in the history of the world

[10:08] and when he comes back,

[10:09] the trumpets will resound

[10:10] and so forth.

[10:12] So,

[10:13] I guess what I'm saying is

[10:14] maybe Superman should have had

[10:15] like two more adventures

[10:16] before he died.

[10:17] Yeah.

[10:18] And it would have felt

[10:18] more justified to me.

[10:19] Just,

[10:19] you know,

Dan McCoy

[10:19] build up your resume,

[10:20] Superman.

Stuart Wellington

[10:21] Nope,

[10:21] the most important thing

[10:22] that Superman can do

[10:23] is die and then come back

[10:24] from the dead.

[10:25] Spoiler.

[10:25] So,

[10:26] meanwhile,

[10:27] Batman and Alfred

[10:27] are having a little

[10:28] heart to heart.

[10:29] We get the sense

[10:30] that Batman,

[10:31] big surprise,

[10:32] is a little bit

[10:33] of a brooding dude,

[10:34] you know,

[10:34] he's got a chip

[10:35] on his shoulder.

[10:37] Yeah,

[10:37] he's what's known

[10:38] in the community

[10:38] as a brood daddy.

[10:39] Oh.

[10:41] Wow,

[10:41] he's got like an alien

[10:42] stuck in his belly.

Dan McCoy

[10:43] He loves the movie

[10:44] The Brood.

[10:45] Yeah,

[10:46] he loves the movie

[10:47] The Brood

[10:47] and he's also a dad

[10:48] of a kind of

[10:49] Justice League family.

[10:50] He looks like Oliver Reed.

Stuart Wellington

[10:52] And his hand turns

[10:54] into an ovipositor

[10:55] and he can insert

[10:56] little eggs

[10:57] into other superhumans.

Elliott Kalan

[10:59] Yeah.

[11:00] That's a loose reading

[11:02] of The Brood,

[11:03] but sure.

Stuart Wellington

[11:04] I'm talking about

[11:04] the comics.

[11:05] Okay,

[11:06] so.

[11:07] Oh,

Elliott Kalan

[11:07] you're talking about

[11:07] the X-Men Brood.

[11:08] I see.

[11:09] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[11:10] So,

[11:10] I thought this was

[11:11] a comic book podcast,

[11:12] guys.

[11:13] My mistake.

[11:14] Recently,

[11:15] it seems like it.

[11:16] Yeah.

[11:17] So,

[11:17] our heroes all decide

[11:19] to do a little bit

[11:20] of sneaking around

[11:21] and they break

[11:22] into the facility

[11:23] that has Superman's

[11:25] spaceship.

[11:25] It's kind of funny.

[11:26] Yeah,

[11:27] Star Labs.

[11:27] Because for the most part,

[11:29] these guys are so

[11:30] super powerful,

[11:31] they can do basically

[11:32] anything they want.

[11:33] It's just funny

[11:34] to see them like

[11:34] sneaking around

[11:35] putting on costumes

[11:36] and like trying to

[11:37] sneak by guys and stuff.

[11:38] Especially that

Elliott Kalan

[11:39] Cyborg is covered

[11:40] in glowing lights

[11:41] and it's like,

[11:42] put a trench coat on.

[11:43] At least dress up

[11:43] like Donatello

[11:44] when you'd go buy a pizza.

[11:45] Like put a fedora

[11:46] and a trench coat on.

[11:47] Try to protect it.

[11:48] Pretend you're not

[11:49] a super crazy person

[11:51] looking,

[11:52] you know,

[11:52] ultra human.

Stuart Wellington

[11:53] Cyborg's on screen

[11:53] a little bit more

[11:54] in this cut of the movie,

[11:56] obviously because

[11:57] it's four hours.

[11:58] But he,

[11:58] it really kind of

[11:59] brings up that

[12:00] like just a still image

[12:02] of him.

[12:03] Like when he's

[12:03] walking around,

[12:04] he seems fine.

[12:05] But if there's ever

[12:06] like a still image

[12:07] of him or you spend

[12:08] too much time

[12:09] actually looking at him,

[12:11] it looks kind of silly.

[12:12] I don't know if it just

[12:13] needed more texture

[12:14] or something

[12:14] because he's basically

[12:15] just silver

[12:16] and glowing lights

[12:17] with a little bit

[12:18] of skin.

Elliott Kalan

[12:19] Yeah,

[12:19] and it's very CGI-y.

[12:22] Yeah,

[12:22] I mean,

Stuart Wellington

[12:22] I hate to use that term.

[12:24] It's just like,

[12:24] I feel like there

[12:25] could have been

[12:25] a little more,

[12:26] I don't know if it's

[12:26] because that's his,

[12:28] how he looks in the comics

[12:29] or something,

[12:30] but there's just not,

[12:31] it feels,

[12:32] he looks very bland,

[12:33] I guess.

Elliott Kalan

[12:34] I always assumed he would

[12:35] look more robo-copy.

[12:37] And it's the first time,

[12:39] and guys,

[12:39] this is me,

[12:40] I'm going to go,

[12:43] this is me reversing

[12:44] a long-held belief.

[12:45] I am not a big fan

[12:46] of when they use

[12:47] superhero costumes

[12:48] in movies

[12:48] and they have to add

[12:49] a lot of texture to it.

[12:50] Yeah.

[12:50] Like in the old

[12:51] Spider-Man movies,

[12:52] how his webs were all

[12:53] like three-dimensional

[12:54] and it was like,

[12:54] just make it look like

[12:55] the webs are printed on.

[12:56] But Cyborg,

[12:57] he needs a little more

[12:58] real texture,

[12:58] I think.

[12:59] And he's a little too smooth

[13:00] and smooth in some places,

[13:01] jagged in others,

[13:02] and he's got a bad attitude.

[13:03] Cyborg, baby.

Dan McCoy

[13:05] I mean,

[13:05] he does feel like

[13:06] an ad for Cyborg.

[13:08] You know,

[13:09] like,

[13:09] yeah,

[13:09] the texture is of

[13:11] like an appliance

[13:12] out of the box

[13:13] rather than

[13:14] like something

[13:15] that's been used.

[13:15] Which he is,

[13:16] he's out of a mother box.

[13:17] That's true.

[13:18] It's actually true,

[13:18] good job.

Elliott Kalan

[13:19] But it is funny

[13:20] that they're sneaking around

[13:21] and Cyborg's dad is like,

[13:24] hey,

[13:24] this is a false alarm,

[13:25] nobody evacuate.

[13:26] And then he sees his son

[13:26] and he's like,

[13:27] oh,

[13:27] I mean,

[13:27] everybody evacuate.

[13:28] Like this funny

[13:29] about face that he does.

[13:30] I want him to be like,

Dan McCoy

[13:31] good to see you,

[13:31] you have friends?

[13:33] Yeah.

[13:34] Oh man,

[13:34] Joe Morton's great.

Stuart Wellington

[13:35] Okay,

[13:36] so they break into the facility,

[13:38] they go into Superman's ship.

[13:40] It's like kind of organic

[13:41] and kind of not.

Elliott Kalan

[13:43] It is intensely vaginal

[13:45] if vaginas were made

[13:47] for the display

[13:48] and extruding

[13:49] of Superman costumes.

[13:51] Yep.

[13:52] It's like,

[13:52] it's like,

[13:53] it's like,

[13:54] the Kryptonian ship

[13:55] is like a hallway

[13:55] of vaginas

[13:56] that then ends

[13:57] in a big pit of the goop

[13:58] from Ghostbusters 2.

[13:59] I like the idea

Dan McCoy

[14:00] that somewhere

[14:01] there's a,

[14:02] there's a poster

[14:03] for this movie

[14:04] that has just a pulchro

[14:05] that says,

[14:05] intensely vaginal,

[14:07] Elliot Taylor.

Stuart Wellington

[14:09] It's really funny

[14:09] that you mentioned

[14:10] the consistency

[14:11] of the goop

[14:12] that they stick

[14:13] Superman's body in,

[14:14] which is kind of interesting

[14:15] because at no point

[14:16] do we,

[14:17] like we see the body

[14:18] from a distance,

[14:18] but we never,

[14:19] I don't think

[14:20] we ever see his face

[14:21] when he's dead.

[14:22] No,

[14:23] they're very respectful.

[14:24] More respectful

Elliott Kalan

[14:24] than people were

[14:25] with Abraham Lincoln's body

[14:26] where one picture

[14:27] was taken

[14:28] of his face on display.

Dan McCoy

[14:29] It's been hundreds of years.

[14:30] Let it go, Elliot.

[14:31] It hasn't been hundreds

Elliott Kalan

[14:32] of years, Dan.

[14:33] It's been 150 years.

[14:34] It hasn't been

[14:35] hundreds of years.

Dan McCoy

[14:36] Mr. Science over here.

Elliott Kalan

[14:39] I will say two things.

[14:41] One,

[14:42] the vaginal ship

[14:42] really fits into my

[14:43] Justice League

[14:44] is the Craymaster

[14:45] of Superheroes

[14:46] analogy from last episode,

[14:48] but also,

[14:49] they're taking very great

[14:50] care of Superman's body.

[14:51] The photograph of his dad

[14:52] that he was buried with,

[14:53] just drop that in the goop.

[14:54] Who cares if that gets wrecked?

[14:55] That's what's so funny

Stuart Wellington

[14:56] is at first I'm like,

[14:57] is this water?

[14:58] But no,

[14:58] it's basically like honey,

[14:59] right?

[15:00] Because the way

[15:00] that photo sinks in there,

[15:03] it's like,

[15:03] man,

[15:04] that's like,

[15:04] you could scoop that shit up

[15:05] with a tortilla chip.

[15:08] Oh yeah,

[15:08] it's very viscous.

[15:09] Very viscous.

[15:10] It's amazing.

[15:10] So,

[15:11] let's see.

[15:12] They throw the body

[15:14] in the honey.

[15:15] They realize

[15:16] they're not going

[15:17] to get enough power.

[15:17] Honey dipped soups.

[15:19] They realize

[15:21] they're not going

[15:21] to get enough juice

[15:22] from the ship.

[15:23] You know,

[15:23] it's been too beat up.

[15:24] So,

[15:25] Flash is like,

[15:25] well,

[15:26] I'm fast,

[15:26] but I can also,

[15:27] if I move super fast

[15:29] and I approach

[15:30] the speed of light,

[15:31] I actually generate

[15:32] a lot of juice,

[15:33] so maybe I'll do that.

[15:35] And everybody's like,

[15:36] oh,

[15:36] that's a bad idea.

[15:37] Batman's immediately

[15:38] into it.

[15:38] Batman is like,

[15:40] super dedicated.

[15:42] I guess that's his character,

[15:43] right?

[15:44] But like,

[15:44] I feel like he would

[15:45] think about it a little bit.

[15:46] I mean,

[15:47] he definitely seems like,

Dan McCoy

[15:48] I'll sacrifice as many

[15:49] Flashes as I need to.

[15:51] Yeah.

[15:51] I mean,

Elliott Kalan

[15:52] Batman is,

[15:53] there's a certain,

[15:54] like Batman is,

[15:54] he's the Batman we know.

[15:55] He's brooding.

[15:57] He's a planner more than a,

[15:59] but he's also a fighter.

[16:00] But he's also,

[16:01] there's a little touch

[16:01] of Kramer in him,

[16:02] which is kind of like,

[16:03] oh yeah,

[16:04] let's do this.

[16:04] Okay,

[16:05] giddy up.

[16:06] Run it up,

[16:07] Flash.

Stuart Wellington

[16:08] So,

[16:09] they have this like,

[16:11] plan where Flash

[16:12] is going to run super fast

[16:13] and meanwhile,

[16:15] Cyborg is tied in

[16:17] with the ship

[16:18] and like,

[16:19] at the last moment,

[16:20] Cyborg has a vision

[16:21] of the future

[16:22] or possible futures

[16:24] where we see

[16:25] Darkseid finally using

[16:26] his fucking Omega beams

[16:28] like a boss

[16:28] and a couple other things

[16:30] like evil Superman,

[16:31] probably.

[16:33] And Flash

[16:34] runs super fast

[16:35] and he touches

[16:36] the mother box

[16:37] at the perfect moment

[16:38] right as it's touching

[16:39] that fucking honey.

[16:40] Cyborg literally says like,

[16:42] no,

[16:42] and Flash goes,

[16:43] go?

[16:44] Okay.

[16:44] Yeah,

[16:44] yeah,

[16:44] I like that.

[16:45] It's like,

[16:45] what is this,

[16:45] Scooby-Doo?

[16:46] Like,

[16:46] come on,

[16:47] man.

[16:47] I do think

[16:48] there is something

[16:49] about like,

[16:50] the obsession

[16:50] with the Flash

[16:52] and Superman

[16:53] being able to go

[16:54] so fast

[16:55] that they turn

[16:56] time backwards

[16:57] that it feels like

[16:58] somebody

[16:59] just heard

[17:00] like snippets,

[17:01] like they just

[17:02] overheard somebody

[17:03] talking about

[17:04] shit the Flash

[17:05] can do

[17:05] and they're like,

[17:06] oh,

[17:06] that's sick.

[17:07] We gotta put that

[17:08] in the movie.

[17:09] Which like,

[17:10] he's super fast.

[17:11] Just let him be fast.

[17:11] He doesn't have to

[17:12] turn time backwards.

Elliott Kalan

[17:13] My theory is that

[17:14] Zack Snyder was

[17:15] listening to a lot

[17:15] of Cher

[17:16] and he said,

[17:17] yeah,

[17:17] what if we could

[17:18] turn back time?

[17:19] Hey,

[17:20] wait a minute.

[17:21] Which song was he

[17:21] listening to though?

[17:23] If I Could Turn Back Time.

[17:24] Oh,

[17:25] I guess that would make sense.

[17:26] It wasn't Life After Love

[17:28] or Gypsy,

[17:30] Stramps,

[17:30] and Thieves.

[17:30] Uh-huh.

[17:31] Go on.

[17:31] Do you have more?

[17:33] Was Half Breed

[17:34] one of hers?

[17:34] I think it was,

[17:35] right?

[17:36] Yeah.

[17:36] And also,

[17:37] and the,

[17:38] you know,

[17:39] her big duet

[17:40] with Sonny.

[17:42] What was it?

[17:43] I got you, babe.

[17:44] I got you, babe.

[17:45] That's what

[17:45] it was on the thing.

[17:46] Wow.

[17:46] We are showing

Stuart Wellington

[17:47] our lack of share

[17:49] catalog knowledge

[17:50] tonight, guys.

[17:51] We are sharing

[17:52] our lack of share.

[17:54] Okay,

[17:55] Dan saved it.

[17:56] Okay, so.

[17:56] We're sharing it pro bono.

[17:58] So he,

[17:59] Flash hits that box,

[18:01] the box flips out,

[18:02] Flash gets knocked out,

[18:03] and then all of a sudden,

[18:04] big explosion time,

[18:05] baby.

[18:06] Mother Box goes

[18:07] flipping out,

[18:07] lands on a car,

[18:09] and who's that flying

[18:09] in the sky?

[18:10] What,

[18:10] you want to interrupt me?

Elliott Kalan

[18:12] Yes,

[18:12] sorry,

[18:12] I just want to say,

[18:13] that is a perfect name

[18:14] for a ska band,

[18:16] baby.

[18:16] Okay,

[18:17] continue.

[18:20] Worth the interruption?

[18:21] Yeah,

Dan McCoy

[18:21] I think so.

[18:21] Or,

[18:22] or it is a poorly

[18:23] translated,

[18:24] like,

[18:25] subtitle to a porn movie.

[18:27] Yeah.

[18:27] Big explosion time,

Stuart Wellington

[18:29] baby.

[18:30] When you see the,

[18:32] the handmade posters

[18:33] in like the,

[18:34] the college quad,

[18:36] it uses an image

[18:37] of baby Sinclair.

[18:39] So.

Dan McCoy

[18:41] Bringing it back around.

Stuart Wellington

[18:43] Yep.

[18:43] So,

[18:44] of course,

[18:45] Superman's flying around.

[18:47] He like lands,

[18:48] he looks at the memorial,

[18:49] he is not wearing

[18:50] a shirt on,

[18:51] and man,

[18:51] he looks amazing.

[18:52] Like,

[18:53] I am all about this,

[18:54] wish he had a mustache though.

[18:56] So he's like,

[18:57] what am I?

[18:57] Am I a human?

[18:58] Am I a Superman?

[18:59] Stuart,

[18:59] I have a,

Elliott Kalan

[19:00] I have,

[19:00] I have some bad news for you.

[19:01] Actually,

[19:01] millions of dollars

[19:02] of computer technology

[19:03] was used to erase a mustache

[19:05] off of his face.

Stuart Wellington

[19:05] That seems crazy,

[19:07] because he would look amazing

[19:08] with a mustache.

[19:09] What would have been great.

[19:09] Like he did in that

Elliott Kalan

[19:10] Mission Impossible movie.

[19:11] I mean,

[19:12] it was one of those things,

[19:13] and I think I've told

[19:13] this story before,

[19:14] how I heard the story

[19:15] about how they used computers

[19:15] to erase that mustache,

[19:17] and I was like,

[19:17] that's ridiculous.

[19:18] He couldn't just shave

[19:19] the mustache,

[19:20] and then I saw

[19:20] Mission Impossible,

[19:21] and I was like,

[19:21] they made the right choice.

[19:22] That mustache is amazing.

[19:23] It makes the character.

[19:26] his face is so,

[19:27] and his face and his personality

[19:28] feel so different

[19:29] with that mustache on,

[19:30] and I like him so much.

[19:31] Not that I don't like him

[19:32] when he doesn't have a mustache,

[19:33] but I like him so much more

[19:34] with that mustache.

Dan McCoy

[19:35] Well,

[19:36] I mean,

[19:36] it helps that Mission Impossible

[19:38] Fallout is such a good movie.

[19:40] Oh,

Dan McCoy

[19:40] it's a better movie?

[19:41] It's great,

[19:41] yeah.

[19:41] It's okay.

[19:43] I mean,

[19:44] it's,

[19:44] you know,

[19:44] it does what it does

[19:45] passively well,

[19:46] but also like,

[19:49] yeah,

[19:49] with Henry Cavill,

[19:50] like,

[19:50] are we sure that this version

[19:52] of it has any digitally

[19:54] erased mustache,

[19:55] or is that all for

[19:56] Reese shoots for the

[19:57] Whedon version?

[19:58] That's what I was wondering.

Elliott Kalan

[19:59] I mean,

[19:59] these,

[20:00] I don't,

[20:00] I mean,

[20:01] I haven't compared it

[20:01] shot for shot,

[20:02] but this scene is in

[20:03] the Whedon version,

[20:04] so I don't know.

[20:05] I think they are,

[20:06] they,

[20:06] I think there's,

[20:06] they took out Whedon's

[20:08] shot footage,

[20:08] but I don't know if they,

[20:10] like,

[20:10] reshot,

[20:11] if those reshot particular

[20:12] shots were removed,

[20:13] so I don't know.

[20:14] So I don't know.

Stuart Wellington

[20:15] Write in,

[20:15] write to Twitter,

[20:17] at Dank McCoy,

[20:19] and tell them all about it.

Dan McCoy

[20:21] Write to,

[20:21] Dan doesn't really care

[20:22] that much,

[20:24] Kara,

[20:25] Stuart Wellington.

Stuart Wellington

[20:26] Oh,

[20:26] wow,

[20:26] okay,

[20:27] I guess I'll just

[20:28] start stacking them up.

Elliott Kalan

[20:30] Mm-hmm,

[20:30] Hinterland's bar,

[20:31] look it up.

Stuart Wellington

[20:32] So,

[20:33] okay,

[20:34] at this point,

[20:34] Superman,

[20:35] he's flipping out.

[20:36] By flipping out,

[20:37] I mean,

[20:38] he's just walking around

[20:38] looking at stuff.

[20:40] The Justice League is like,

[20:41] oh,

[20:42] hey,

[20:42] Superman,

[20:42] let's have a conversation.

[20:43] He's not up for that.

[20:45] Wonder Woman keeps calling him

Elliott Kalan

[20:46] Kal-El,

[20:47] which is really annoying.

[20:48] It's like,

[20:48] the guy who,

[20:49] she's like,

[20:50] I knew him during study abroad,

[20:52] so I know his,

[20:53] the nickname that his family

[20:54] calls him.

[20:55] Hey,

[20:55] Kal-El,

[20:56] like,

[20:56] I'm closer to him than you guys.

[20:57] It's very annoying.

Stuart Wellington

[20:59] So,

[20:59] of course,

[20:59] they have a fight at this point.

[21:01] Cyborg's defense system is like,

[21:03] oh,

[21:03] no,

[21:03] I detect a threat.

[21:04] I can't stop myself.

[21:05] And it's like,

[21:06] yeah,

[21:06] I've said that before,

[21:07] dude.

[21:07] Yeah,

[21:07] he goes all Iron Giant on him.

[21:09] Superman.

[21:11] And,

[21:11] yeah,

[21:12] so they fight Superman,

[21:13] and it's,

[21:15] like,

[21:15] it feels very,

[21:16] it feels even more silly in this cut.

[21:18] I don't know why.

[21:20] Like,

[21:20] it feels very tacked on.

Dan McCoy

[21:22] Yeah,

[21:23] it's unfortunate,

[21:24] because,

[21:24] like,

[21:24] you know,

[21:25] that's what we all kind of want

[21:28] in these superhero stories,

[21:30] right?

[21:30] For the heroes to,

[21:31] like,

[21:32] fight each other sometimes.

[21:33] I mean,

[21:34] that's the whole selling point

[21:35] of Captain America Civil War.

Elliott Kalan

[21:37] I mean,

[21:38] it's what I wanted before the last

[21:39] ten years of Marvel

[21:41] annual crossovers.

[21:43] Oh!

Dan McCoy

[21:44] No,

[21:45] but it is,

[21:45] it does feel,

[21:46] like,

[21:46] for that,

[21:47] pretty pro forma.

[21:50] And also,

[21:50] yeah,

[21:50] like,

[21:51] Cyborg,

[21:52] you know,

[21:52] maybe your dad should allow you

[21:54] to manually override

[21:55] your defense systems.

[21:56] That's a good,

[21:57] you know,

[21:57] maybe for,

[21:58] like,

[21:59] the version 2.0 upgrade.

[22:01] You know,

[22:02] like,

[22:02] It feels like the only

Stuart Wellington

[22:03] safeguard he has

[22:04] is that his body

[22:05] will sometimes

[22:06] just shoot missiles at things.

Elliott Kalan

[22:08] You mean that

[22:09] you don't like

[22:09] Cyborg's philosophy of,

[22:11] I'm in a car,

[22:12] it's out of control,

[22:13] I'm heading towards the school,

[22:14] gotta take my hands off the wheel

[22:15] and just see how this plays out.

[22:17] Nothing I can do about it.

[22:18] I wonder,

Dan McCoy

[22:19] I wonder if,

[22:20] like,

[22:20] Cyborg is doing the same thing,

[22:22] that I'm doing with my phone

[22:23] where I just keep punching,

[22:24] like,

[22:24] later for the updates

[22:25] and this would have been fixed.

Elliott Kalan

[22:28] Yeah,

[22:28] that's true.

[22:29] It's very possible.

[22:29] Or he's not plugging in at night

[22:31] so it can't update.

[22:32] Yeah,

[22:32] and he gets the message next morning

[22:33] ah,

[22:33] I should have just plugged it in.

[22:35] And Superman shows

Stuart Wellington

[22:36] that he is better

[22:37] than all of the team

[22:38] in every regard.

[22:40] Like,

[22:40] he's faster than the Flash,

[22:41] he's stronger than Aquaman,

[22:43] he blasts more eye lasers

[22:45] than Bruce Wayne.

[22:47] I mean,

[22:48] that's any,

[22:49] yeah.

[22:49] I think,

[22:50] I'm gonna have,

Dan McCoy

[22:51] I probably blast more eye lasers

[22:52] than Bruce Wayne.

[22:54] Okay,

[22:55] don't know what that means.

[22:56] I mean,

[22:57] well,

[22:57] he's a fixable character,

[22:58] so.

[22:58] Okay,

[22:59] good point,

[22:59] fair point,

[23:00] yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[23:00] Take that,

[23:02] take that guy

[23:02] who doesn't really exist.

[23:03] Yeah.

[23:04] But it's still more famous

[23:05] than you?

[23:06] Anyway,

[23:06] I think,

[23:07] I have two thoughts about this.

[23:08] Oh,

[23:09] shit.

[23:09] One is that,

[23:11] yeah,

[23:11] this scene feels really tacked on

[23:13] and I think they don't really

[23:14] have a reason for it

[23:15] and Superman has been built up

[23:17] to be such a messianic,

[23:19] noble figure

[23:20] that it really rings false

[23:22] and they're trying to create

[23:23] this possibility

[23:24] that he has a heel turn

[23:25] where he helps Darkseid

[23:26] and that aspect of it

[23:28] just never feels

[23:29] organic.

[23:30] Yeah.

[23:30] The other thing I'm going to say is,

[23:32] the other thing I'm going to say is,

[23:33] the moment when Flash

[23:34] is running towards him

[23:34] at super speed

[23:35] and Superman turns to look at him

[23:37] because he's faster than the Flash

[23:39] is a really great moment.

[23:40] Yeah,

[23:40] yeah.

[23:40] It's one of the,

[23:41] that's a moment where it's,

[23:42] that was one of the few moments

[23:43] in the whole four hour movie

[23:44] where I was even having,

[23:45] ever seen it in the original cut,

[23:47] being,

[23:47] this is one of the few moments

[23:48] where I was like,

[23:48] oh shit.

[23:50] Yeah,

[23:50] like,

[23:50] he's not supposed to be able

[23:51] to do that,

[23:52] but he can.

[23:52] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[23:53] No,

[23:53] it's cool.

[23:55] Yeah,

[23:55] I mean,

[23:55] it definitely,

[23:56] I've probably expounded

[23:58] at length on the show

[24:00] about how I'm not a huge fan

[24:01] of the Superman is evil now

[24:04] take that seems so popular

[24:07] in various versions

[24:09] of this,

[24:09] of this character stories.

[24:12] And this feels even weirder

[24:14] and it seems like they're setting up

[24:16] a bigger heel turn

[24:17] for Superman,

[24:17] but I don't care about that

[24:19] because I probably will never

[24:20] have to watch a movie

[24:21] that has,

[24:22] will never get made.

[24:24] So luckily,

[24:25] Superman's seeing red

[24:26] until Lois Lane shows up

[24:29] and is like,

[24:30] cut that shit out,

[24:31] dude.

[24:32] And so they just bounce.

[24:33] They fly out of there.

[24:35] Leaving Batman

[24:36] with two fewer arm bracers

[24:38] that suck up Superman eye lasers.

[24:41] I know,

[24:42] those are really powerful.

[24:43] Like,

Dan McCoy

[24:44] I,

[24:44] like,

[24:44] this is the point,

[24:45] this is the,

[24:46] I have to admit something,

[24:47] guys,

[24:47] like,

[24:48] as much as I don't necessarily

[24:50] find this movie

[24:51] emotionally involving at all,

[24:53] there's still something primal,

[24:56] like,

[24:56] seeing Superman

[24:57] shooting his,

[24:59] his eyes,

[25:00] heat vision

[25:01] at Batman.

[25:02] Like,

[25:03] just like the fact that

[25:03] those characters themselves

[25:05] carry so much history

[25:06] that I'm just like,

[25:07] still sitting there,

[25:09] like,

[25:09] clutching,

[25:09] uh,

[25:10] Audrey's leg next to me.

[25:13] Audrey totally bored

[25:14] by all of it,

[25:15] but me being like,

Stuart Wellington

[25:16] oh no,

[25:17] he's a,

[25:18] you know,

[25:18] he's a human being.

Dan McCoy

[25:19] You can't do that,

[25:20] Superman.

[25:21] He can't take that.

[25:22] Like,

[25:22] it was very,

[25:23] like,

[25:23] I was very worried

[25:24] for a moment,

[25:24] but,

Stuart Wellington

[25:25] yeah.

[25:25] Well,

[25:25] yeah,

[25:26] and considering how,

[25:26] like,

[25:27] brutal all the use

[25:28] of superpowers

[25:29] seems to be

[25:30] in this movie,

[25:30] like,

[25:31] anytime anybody uses

[25:32] any kind of power,

[25:33] it,

[25:33] like,

[25:34] shatters the world

[25:35] around them.

[25:35] And the,

[25:36] and I feel like

[25:37] leading up to this point,

[25:39] they keep,

[25:40] I mean,

[25:40] they talk about Superman

[25:41] as,

[25:42] like,

[25:42] a messianic figure,

[25:43] but they also talk about him

[25:44] as,

[25:45] like,

[25:45] a figure of,

[25:46] like,

[25:46] fear.

[25:47] Like,

[25:47] they keep talking about

[25:48] how the mother boxes

[25:49] are afraid of him,

[25:50] and,

[25:51] like,

[25:52] and at this point,

[25:53] they've,

[25:53] like,

[25:53] built him up as this,

[25:54] like,

[25:54] oh,

[25:55] maybe he's evil.

[25:56] That's terrifying.

[25:57] And,

[25:58] I don't know,

[25:58] I'm not into it.

Elliott Kalan

[26:00] No,

[26:00] I think,

[26:00] I think part of the issue

[26:01] is that,

[26:02] and here's where I'm gonna get

[26:04] into a larger problem

[26:05] with the movie,

[26:06] which I should probably

[26:06] save till later,

[26:07] but who knows,

[26:08] which is that Superman,

[26:10] to us,

[26:10] having grown up with Superman

[26:12] in tons of different

[26:13] types of media,

[26:13] whether we saw him

[26:14] in comic books,

[26:15] or movies,

[26:15] or cartoons,

[26:16] or that,

[26:17] the roller coaster

[26:18] at Six Flags Great Adventure,

[26:19] or whatever,

[26:20] like,

[26:21] he represents,

[26:22] kind of,

[26:22] like,

[26:23] ultimate moral goodness

[26:25] and nobility,

[26:26] like,

[26:27] and the idea of him

[26:28] turning evil

[26:28] is supposed to be,

[26:30] it should be scary

[26:31] because even the most

[26:32] noble man in the world

[26:34] might turn evil,

[26:35] but in Zack Snyder's

[26:35] Justice League,

[26:36] he doesn't seem to

[26:37] represent nobility

[26:37] so much as he represents

[26:38] force,

[26:39] overwhelming godlike force

[26:41] that can be used

[26:42] for justice,

[26:43] hopefully,

[26:43] but might be used

[26:44] for evil,

[26:45] and he's just power,

[26:46] he's just strength,

[26:47] and so to see him

[26:48] beating up on Batman

[26:50] or to think that

[26:51] he might go bad

[26:52] or something,

[26:52] he doesn't really

[26:53] represent anything,

[26:53] he doesn't stand

[26:54] for anything,

[26:54] and to a larger extent,

[26:56] one of the issues

[26:57] that I have with this movie

[26:59] that the writer

[27:01] Jeet here

[27:02] talked about on Twitter

[27:03] was that it borrows a lot

[27:04] from Jack Kirby's

[27:05] fourth world saga,

[27:06] which is this

[27:07] epically metaphorical saga

[27:09] about young versus old

[27:12] and closed-mindedness

[27:13] and repressiveness

[27:14] versus open-mindedness

[27:15] and kind of personal

[27:17] and social liberation,

[27:18] and he's using these

[27:20] larger-than-life cosmic

[27:21] superhero characters

[27:22] to have basically

[27:24] a philosophical,

[27:26] metaphorical discussion,

[27:27] you know,

[27:27] and it's also really goofy

[27:28] and there's like a team

[27:29] of space hippies,

[27:30] you know,

[27:31] but this movie,

[27:32] the characters

[27:33] don't represent anything,

[27:34] they don't mean anything,

[27:34] they're just about,

[27:35] they're just action figures

[27:36] that can punch real hard,

[27:37] so when Superman,

[27:38] like,

[27:39] spoiler alert,

[27:40] he helps the heroes

[27:40] at the end,

[27:41] when he shows up,

[27:42] he doesn't say anything

[27:43] about goodness,

[27:45] he doesn't represent anything,

[27:46] he just punches the shit

[27:47] out of the bad guy

[27:48] over and over again,

[27:49] all he represents

[27:50] is the strongest fist

[27:51] on the block,

[27:52] and like,

[27:53] that is a,

[27:53] that was more chilling

[27:54] to me than anything

[27:55] in the movie,

[27:56] was the idea that like,

[27:57] this guy who is supposed

[27:58] to be like,

[27:59] friend of all children,

[28:00] always does the right thing,

[28:01] is just,

[28:02] oh,

[28:03] it's a good thing

[28:03] he's on our side,

[28:04] because he is,

[28:05] he can destroy

[28:05] anything in the world.

[28:06] Yeah,

Stuart Wellington

[28:06] when he shows up

[28:07] in a jet black costume

[28:08] and just blasts the shit

[28:10] out of the bad guy,

[28:11] dude,

[28:12] stop it,

[28:13] calm down,

[28:13] you just like,

[28:14] ripped his fucking ear off.

Elliott Kalan

[28:16] Well then,

[28:16] and then,

[28:16] that the heroes,

[28:17] I mean,

[28:17] spoiler,

[28:18] they straight up kill him.

[28:19] It's fucking crazy.

[28:21] So,

[28:21] I mean,

[28:21] he's a bad,

[28:22] he's as bad as dudes get,

[28:23] it's war,

[28:23] I understand,

[28:24] but they're just,

[28:24] they're just really happy

[28:26] about it in a way I don't like.

Stuart Wellington

[28:27] If you just kidnap

[28:28] the president,

[28:28] you're sending

[28:29] Steppenwolf after him.

[28:30] Speaking of which,

[28:30] Steppenwolf shows up,

[28:31] he heard the fucking

[28:32] call of the mother box,

[28:34] boomtown baby,

[28:35] I'm taking this boom tube

[28:36] right to Gotham City,

[28:37] I think.

[28:38] So he shows up,

Dan McCoy

[28:39] rocking up this boom tube.

Stuart Wellington

[28:41] Yeah,

[28:41] he shows up,

[28:43] what the fuck,

[28:43] where's that box?

[28:45] Joe Morton's already stolen it,

[28:46] he's taking it back into the lab,

[28:48] so Steppenwolf just jumps

[28:50] into the lab,

[28:51] and Joe Morton locks himself

[28:53] into a room,

[28:54] and.

Elliott Kalan

[28:55] Just like in the classic

[28:56] Beetlejuice song,

[28:57] jump in the lab,

[28:58] get the mother box guy,

[28:59] okay,

[29:00] Steppenwolf now.

Stuart Wellington

[29:01] Written and performed

[29:01] by Beetlejuice.

[29:04] So Steppenwolf shows up,

[29:06] and he's trying to get it,

[29:07] and then Joe Morton

[29:08] uses a laser beam,

[29:09] blasts at the box,

[29:11] what the fuck are you doing,

[29:12] dude,

[29:12] are you trying to kill it?

[29:13] Nope,

[29:13] he kills himself,

[29:14] that's a big whiff.

[29:15] Turns out,

[29:16] he had a plan,

[29:17] because Steppenwolf

[29:18] takes that box away

[29:19] after blasting Cyborg,

[29:21] Cyborg's like,

[29:22] oh no,

[29:22] my dad's dead,

[29:23] which makes sense,

[29:24] because that's his dad.

[29:26] He's not completely

[29:26] a robot yet,

[29:27] but then they realize

[29:29] his dad had a plan,

[29:30] and he blasted that box

[29:32] so that it'll get super hot,

[29:33] and it'll show up

[29:34] on thermal imaging.

[29:35] They can track that box,

[29:36] baby.

[29:37] Yeah.

[29:38] That's the kind of,

[29:38] it's the kind of plan

Elliott Kalan

[29:39] that is only decipherable

[29:41] if you have read the script.

Dan McCoy

[29:42] Yeah,

[29:43] that's kind of what I was,

[29:44] yeah,

[29:45] we probably made this point

[29:47] in the earlier

[29:49] Justice League

[29:50] theatrical cut show

[29:52] that we did.

[29:52] I don't know,

[29:53] I haven't listened to it,

[29:54] but like,

[29:55] there's no reason,

[29:56] like,

[29:56] Joe Morton has

[29:57] a remote control.

[29:58] He doesn't have to be

[29:58] in the death room

[29:59] with the box

[30:01] shooting lasers at him.

Elliott Kalan

[30:03] And he's got,

[30:03] he's got so much

[30:04] to live for.

[30:04] He's a powerful guy

[30:05] with a great career.

[30:06] His son is there with him.

[30:07] He's got a great

[30:08] steak franchise.

[30:09] I mean,

[30:09] as far as

[30:10] steak franchises go,

[30:11] it's kind of the tops.

Stuart Wellington

[30:12] Yeah,

[30:13] if I was going to go

[30:13] to a chain steak,

[30:15] steakhouse.

[30:16] Yeah,

[30:16] Morton's is probably

[30:17] my favorite,

[30:18] right?

Elliott Kalan

[30:19] And if I can't get a Morton's,

[30:20] I guess I'll go to a

[30:21] Ruth's Crisp,

[30:21] and I'm going to look

[30:22] for a Morton's.

[30:22] I want to see the little

[30:23] show they put on

[30:24] where they show you

[30:24] what broccoli looks like.

Stuart Wellington

[30:25] I know Dan is here

[30:26] saying,

[30:27] Shula's is the best,

[30:28] and I get it

[30:28] because Dan was named

[30:30] after Dan Marino,

[30:31] the quarterback

[30:32] of the fucking Dolphins.

Elliott Kalan

[30:33] They wanted to name him

[30:35] after Don Shula,

[30:36] but there was a typo

[30:37] on the birth certificate.

Dan McCoy

[30:38] I know nothing

[30:38] about steakhouses.

[30:40] Really?

[30:42] No,

[30:42] I don't,

[30:42] but I just wanted to say

[30:43] that this is one of those

[30:44] times where it's like

[30:45] a movie thing

[30:46] that happens

[30:47] just because it's like,

[30:48] well,

[30:48] you know,

[30:49] some character needs

[30:50] to die to motivate

[30:51] one of our heroes

[30:52] at this point in the script,

[30:53] so he'll make

[30:54] a dumb choice.

Stuart Wellington

[30:55] Can't lose Lois Lane

[30:56] because she's too busy

[30:57] flying off of Superman

[30:58] to Kansas

[30:58] where they check out

[31:00] the house

[31:01] that the bank has taken.

[31:02] Oh, man,

[31:03] that big stupid bank

[31:04] that took away

[31:04] the Kent house,

[31:05] and that's where we...

[31:07] What are you on

Dan McCoy

[31:07] their side, Stuart?

Stuart Wellington

[31:10] Oh, wow.

[31:11] Well, we'll get to that later.

[31:13] Okay.

[31:14] Leave you on the edge

[31:15] of your seat

[31:15] because you know what?

[31:17] That is the end

[31:18] of this chapter,

[31:19] chapter five,

[31:20] who is Harry Crumb.

S4

[31:23] Hey, it's John Moe,

[31:24] and look,

[31:25] these are challenging times

[31:26] for our mental

[31:27] and emotional health.

[31:29] I get it.

[31:29] That's why I'm so excited

[31:31] for my new podcast,

[31:32] depression mode.

[31:33] We're tackling depression,

[31:34] anxiety, trauma, stress,

[31:36] the kinds of things

[31:37] that are just super common

[31:39] but don't get talked

[31:39] about nearly enough.

[31:41] Conversations that are

[31:42] illuminating, honest,

[31:43] and sometimes pretty funny

[31:45] with folks like

[31:46] Patton Oswalt,

[31:47] Kelsey Dara,

[31:48] and open mic eagle.

[31:49] I have this public

[31:49] facing self,

[31:51] and then I have my

[31:51] emotional self

[31:52] that tends to stay hidden.

Stuart Wellington

[31:53] It was about finding

[31:54] a way to communicate

[31:55] to somebody that,

[31:57] like,

[31:57] there's terrible

[31:58] shit going on back here.

S4

[32:00] plus psychiatrists,

[32:01] psychologists,

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[32:03] On Depression Mode,

[32:04] we're working together,

[32:05] learning,

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[32:07] We're a team.

[32:08] Join our team.

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Dan McCoy

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Stuart Wellington

[33:05] Now, let's have a word

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[33:07] What do you think?

Dan McCoy

[33:08] Okay, let's do it.

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Elliott Kalan

[34:07] Did not finish in time.

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Stuart Wellington

[34:10] Seems like information

[34:11] you didn't have to share,

[34:12] but that's cool.

Elliott Kalan

[34:13] Now, you're probably

[34:14] wondering,

[34:14] let's move off of

[34:16] Dan's TMI right now

[34:18] and just say,

[34:19] parents out there,

[34:20] are you asking if Libby

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[34:29] We load it up

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[34:33] and we just let her rip

[34:35] and my sons love it.

[34:37] We've been listening

[34:38] to the original Oz novels

[34:39] because that's been

[34:41] an obsession of theirs lately

[34:42] and it's been super fun

[34:44] and we have a long drive

[34:45] ahead of us

[34:46] this coming weekend.

[34:47] Are those narrated

Stuart Wellington

[34:48] by Harold Perrineau's character?

Elliott Kalan

[34:50] Yes.

[34:51] By which I mean

[34:52] the novelizations

[34:53] of episodes of Oz.

[34:55] R.I.P. moms.

[34:55] Rest in peace, please.

[34:56] And I'm going to tell you

[34:58] that you just set

[34:59] the Libby going

[35:00] and you don't even have

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[35:02] for the hours of driving.

[35:03] Wow.

[35:04] Look back every now and then,

[35:05] make sure they're still,

[35:06] you know, there.

[35:07] They didn't fall out

[35:08] of the car at some point

[35:09] and Libby takes care

[35:11] of the rest.

[35:11] You gotta fix that door, Elliot.

[35:13] No, no.

[35:14] I can't afford

[35:14] a new car right now

[35:15] or a new door

[35:16] so I've just got to

[35:16] check every now and then.

[35:17] The other thing is

[35:18] that the seatbelts

[35:18] don't work

[35:19] so they're just

[35:19] duct taped in.

[35:20] But Libby keeps them

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Dan McCoy

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[35:34] Stuart, I think you have

Stuart Wellington

[35:36] a plug.

[35:37] I have a little pluggy wug

[35:38] and that is for

[35:40] another podcast.

[35:40] It's a podcast called

[35:41] I Know the Owner.

[35:43] It is a podcast,

[35:45] it is a new podcast,

[35:46] hosted by my wife,

[35:49] Charlene Wellington,

[35:50] the owner of a couple of bars.

[35:52] And it is a podcast

[35:54] about bar people

[35:55] talking bar stuff.

[35:56] I have been a guest

[35:57] a couple times,

[35:58] which those are

[36:00] the worst episodes.

[36:01] But it's a great show

[36:03] and it gives,

[36:04] if you're interested

[36:05] at all in the life

[36:07] of bar owners

[36:08] and bartending

[36:09] and the service industry

[36:12] in general,

[36:12] especially in a time like this

[36:13] where it's such

[36:15] a state of flux,

[36:17] check it out.

[36:18] I Know the Owner

[36:19] wherever you find podcasts.

Dan McCoy

[36:21] And is that

[36:22] the last plug?

Elliott Kalan

[36:24] Hey, speaking of comics,

[36:25] Maniac in New York

Dan McCoy

[36:26] on shelves now

[36:27] from Aftershock Comics.

[36:29] Check it out.

[36:29] That's the last one.

[36:30] So back to the story.

Stuart Wellington

[36:32] Okay,

[36:33] so we are into

[36:34] chapter six,

[36:35] the big box bash-em-up.

[36:39] It's only called it

Elliott Kalan

[36:40] because the climax

[36:41] takes place in a Home Depot.

Stuart Wellington

[36:46] Yeah,

[36:46] so the,

[36:49] the team is talking

[36:50] about their plan

[36:51] for how they're going

[36:52] to stop Steppenwolf.

[36:54] They seem to,

[36:56] and it's fine,

[36:57] they come up with a plan

[36:58] and everything,

[36:58] but it is a little weird

[36:59] that Wonder Woman

[37:00] seems very aware

[37:02] of exactly what

[37:03] the Mother Box

[37:05] is capable of.

[37:06] They're talking about

[37:07] how they want to have

[37:08] Cyborg try and disrupt

[37:09] the unity of the

[37:10] three Mother Boxes,

[37:12] and she's like,

[37:13] no,

[37:13] that thing destroys worlds.

[37:15] It'll know all your

[37:15] deepest fears, dude.

[37:17] And you're like,

[37:18] what, for real?

[37:19] I think you're forgetting,

[37:20] Stuart,

[37:20] she saw a mural.

[37:23] It's a very detailed mural.

[37:24] I've seen some murals

[37:25] by Gustav Klimt,

[37:26] and I feel like

[37:27] they get me in ways

[37:29] that I never knew myself.

Elliott Kalan

[37:31] But you're right,

[37:32] there's a lot of,

[37:33] we're now into the movie

[37:34] where,

[37:35] the section of the movie

[37:36] where they've

[37:36] they've got a barrel

[37:37] towards the climax,

[37:37] and they do not have

[37:38] time to learn things.

[37:39] So they start

[37:40] just spontaneously

[37:41] generating information

[37:42] that they need

[37:43] to get to the next

[37:44] step of the story.

Stuart Wellington

[37:45] Like,

[37:46] Bruce Wayne talks about

[37:47] how he had a vision

[37:48] of the future,

[37:49] where the Flash

[37:49] told him that

[37:50] Lois Lane is the key.

[37:52] It's very vague.

[37:53] It doesn't matter

[37:54] for the rest of the movie.

[37:55] I'm sure it's all set up

[37:56] for a future movie.

[37:57] It feels very dumb.

[37:58] I don't know about you guys.

Elliott Kalan

[38:00] And he's referring

[38:00] to a scene

[38:01] from a previous movie,

[38:02] which at the time

[38:04] didn't make sense

[38:05] and is still

[38:05] not necessary

[38:07] as of this movie.

[38:09] So the...

[38:10] And Bruce Wayne...

[38:11] Wait, I want to say,

[38:11] I want to point out.

[38:12] Yeah, of course.

[38:12] Bruce Wayne has a really

[38:13] funny line.

[38:13] He says,

[38:14] he's like,

[38:14] they're like,

[38:15] they're like,

[38:16] Steppenwolf and Darkseid,

[38:17] they conquered worlds,

[38:18] thousands of worlds.

[38:19] And Batman goes,

[38:19] he's never fought us,

[38:21] not us united.

[38:22] And it was like,

[38:22] yeah, he did, dude,

[38:23] in like part three.

[38:24] Remember?

[38:25] And he beat at you.

[38:26] Yeah.

[38:26] Do you not remember that?

[38:27] That was in your time.

[38:28] That was last night.

[38:29] Like, come on, dude.

Stuart Wellington

[38:32] Yeah, that was like,

[38:33] like 12 hours ago.

[38:35] You had that dope spider tank

[38:37] and he just fucking wrecked it.

Elliott Kalan

[38:39] Yeah.

[38:39] And I can only assume

[38:40] that all that,

[38:41] all that heat vision

[38:41] from Superman

[38:42] has given him

[38:42] some short-term memory loss.

[38:44] That's true, yeah.

[38:45] And he's just like,

[38:45] this Steppenwolf,

[38:46] he's never seen us.

[38:47] He doesn't know

[38:47] our fighting styles.

[38:48] He definitely hasn't seen

[38:49] my Nightcrawler tank.

[38:50] And they're like,

[38:51] no, no,

[38:51] all that happened.

Stuart Wellington

[38:53] Yeah.

[38:54] Uh, don't,

[38:55] don't let Bruce

[38:55] look at the Nightcrawler bin.

[38:57] He's going to be

Elliott Kalan

[38:57] very disappointed.

[38:59] Bruce is like,

[39:00] you know what we should do?

[39:00] Bring Superman back.

[39:02] Why didn't we think

[39:02] of that earlier?

[39:03] That would go great.

[39:05] They're like,

[39:05] Bruce, why don't you sit down here?

[39:06] Have some lemonade.

Stuart Wellington

[39:08] Meanwhile,

[39:08] in his energy testicle fortress,

[39:11] Steppenwolf is sinking

[39:12] the mother boxes.

[39:13] And one of the things

[39:14] I like about this scene

[39:15] is that Steppenwolf

[39:16] is a lot like me

[39:17] when I'm trying to get

[39:17] my fucking phone

[39:18] to sink with the Bluetooth

[39:20] player in my car.

[39:22] He's like,

[39:23] come on,

[39:24] sink.

[39:27] Like,

[39:27] he's so fucking frustrated.

[39:29] It's awesome.

Elliott Kalan

[39:30] You know,

[39:30] if he could,

[39:31] he'd just keep clicking

[39:31] the button over and over again.

Stuart Wellington

[39:33] Yeah.

[39:33] Part of me is wondering

[39:34] if that was just

[39:35] some kind of like

[39:35] outtake from Kieran Hines,

[39:37] like trying to record

[39:38] his audio

[39:39] through his fucking microphone

[39:40] and wasn't working.

[39:42] So,

Elliott Kalan

[39:43] now let's just get

[39:44] some wild lines

[39:45] of you getting this,

[39:47] wanting the mother boxes

[39:48] to sink.

[39:49] What should I say?

[39:49] Something technical?

[39:50] No,

[39:51] whatever.

[39:51] Just say whatever

[39:52] comes to your mind.

[39:53] sink.

[39:54] Come on.

[39:55] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[39:56] No,

[39:56] I want more fuel here.

[39:57] Time is money.

[39:58] Yeah.

[39:59] So,

[40:00] Superman sees his mom

[40:02] and she's like,

[40:02] for real?

[40:03] And he's like,

[40:03] for real?

[40:04] And then he's like,

[40:05] I'm gonna go help everybody.

[40:06] I'm gonna get in the battle again.

[40:07] You're like,

[40:07] no shit,

[40:08] you're Superman.

Dan McCoy

[40:09] That's probably all you do.

[40:10] I see Martha Kent

[40:11] in this movie.

[40:12] I'm like,

[40:13] is she the Martian Manhunter?

[40:16] It's been established.

[40:18] One of these times,

[40:19] she was the Martian Manhunter.

[40:21] Could be.

[40:22] You never know.

[40:23] See,

Elliott Kalan

[40:23] because I have the same thing.

[40:24] I'm like,

[40:25] shouldn't she be putting on a show

[40:26] in the Streets of Fire universe

[40:28] right now?

[40:28] Like,

[40:29] why isn't she singing

[40:29] Nowhere Fast?

[40:30] Yeah,

[40:31] that's right.

[40:32] Why isn't she under

[40:33] the Tuscan sun right now?

[40:35] Is that?

[40:36] Wait,

[40:36] was Martian Manhunter

[40:38] in Under a Tuscan Sun?

[40:40] I don't know which of her roles

[40:41] were Martian Manhunter.

[40:43] Was Martian Manhunter

[40:43] one of the fabulous stains?

[40:45] I can't tell.

[40:48] Oh,

Dan McCoy

[40:48] we're gonna have to watch them all.

[40:50] Okay.

Stuart Wellington

[40:52] So,

[40:52] Superman's like,

[40:53] he's made up his mind.

[40:54] He's gonna do a battle.

Elliott Kalan

[40:55] You gotta imagine

[40:56] in History of Violence

[40:57] when Viggo Mortensen's like,

[40:59] yeah,

[40:59] I'm secretly an assassin,

[41:00] but you're the Martian Manhunter,

[41:02] so maybe let's not throw

[41:02] stones,

[41:03] okay?

[41:04] Let's not talk about

[41:05] keeping secrets in a marriage,

[41:06] okay?

Stuart Wellington

[41:07] Wait a minute,

[41:08] that's a different,

[41:09] wait a minute.

[41:11] Wait,

[41:11] was she in

[41:12] the History of Violence

[41:13] or was that Maria Bello?

[41:16] I thought that was

[41:16] Diane Lane.

[41:17] Is it Maria Bello?

[41:17] No, it's Maria Bello.

[41:18] You would know

[41:20] because she wears a hat

[41:21] because she's the hat detective.

Dan McCoy

[41:23] That's right,

[41:24] I forgot.

[41:24] She was,

Elliott Kalan

[41:25] I forgot she,

[41:26] without her hat,

[41:27] I didn't recognize her.

[41:28] Yeah,

[41:28] it makes sense.

Dan McCoy

[41:28] When Stuart said,

[41:29] we have to go through

[41:30] a lot of movies,

[41:31] we gotta go through them.

[41:32] I was now imagining

[41:34] someone who saw

[41:35] Justice League,

[41:37] doesn't understand

[41:38] how movie worked,

[41:39] and they're like,

[41:40] oh my god,

[41:40] for how long,

[41:41] oh,

[41:42] how long,

[41:43] we have to go back

[41:44] through all of Diane Lane's

[41:45] films and see,

[41:46] look for clues.

Elliott Kalan

[41:47] We gotta find the Easter eggs

[41:48] that prove that she was

[41:49] really John Jones,

[41:51] the Martian Manhunter,

[41:52] who has the single funniest line

[41:54] in the movie,

[41:55] which we'll get to

[41:56] at the end,

[41:56] I think.

[41:57] Yeah,

[41:57] it's great.

Stuart Wellington

[41:58] So,

[41:59] Superman decides to fly back

[42:00] to his ship,

[42:01] and he passes those

[42:03] Superman costume vaginas

[42:04] that Elliot talked about,

[42:06] and then he sets his eyes

[42:07] on something special.

[42:08] That's right,

[42:09] an all-black Superman costume,

[42:10] because that's what this movie

[42:11] needed,

[42:12] is less color.

[42:14] So,

[42:15] he goes flying off,

[42:16] okay,

[42:17] I guess he'll show up

[42:17] at some point.

[42:18] Okay,

[42:19] so,

[42:20] Batman decides to,

[42:21] Batman takes the team,

[42:23] they fly to Chernobyl,

[42:24] they see the energy testicle,

[42:26] the ship that he'd been building

[42:28] finally works,

[42:29] thanks to Cyborg,

[42:30] fixing it up,

[42:31] like,

[42:32] that's not a big surprise.

[42:33] Batman has a plan,

[42:34] he drops off the team,

[42:35] and then he flies

[42:36] his little ship over,

[42:37] he blasts the testicle

[42:39] a bunch of times

[42:39] with missiles,

[42:40] because again,

[42:41] Batman never uses guns,

[42:43] he blasts open

[42:44] the thing,

[42:45] he knocks out

[42:46] an energy tower

[42:47] that is creating

[42:48] the energy force field,

[42:49] and then he crashes

[42:50] his plane,

[42:51] and then a bunch

[42:52] of parademons

[42:52] go after him,

[42:54] don't worry about me,

[42:55] I'm a baby boomer,

[42:56] I could do it all myself.

Elliott Kalan

[42:58] No,

[42:59] here's,

[42:59] I want you to explain

[43:00] Batman's plan to me,

[43:01] because he's like,

[43:01] we have the plan,

[43:02] follow the plan,

[43:03] and don't worry about me,

[43:04] and the plan seems to be

[43:05] that they protect him

[43:06] as he does all this stuff,

[43:08] to keep parademons off him.

[43:09] Like,

[43:09] I don't understand

[43:10] how the plan...

[43:10] I don't think

Stuart Wellington

[43:10] that was the plan,

[43:11] his plan was like,

[43:12] I'll do it all myself,

[43:14] God,

[43:14] I don't care anymore,

[43:16] but then,

[43:17] as soon as,

[43:17] as soon as she gets real,

[43:19] so was the plan like,

Elliott Kalan

[43:21] the plan was like,

[43:21] you guys stay here

[43:22] and watch me do this shit,

[43:23] make sure to get it

[43:24] on the GoPro,

[43:25] so we can upload it

[43:25] later to TikTok,

[43:26] I'm gonna go beat

[43:27] this guy single handed.

Stuart Wellington

[43:28] picture me stunting.

Elliott Kalan

[43:30] So while he's fighting parademons,

[43:32] he's like,

[43:32] smash that subscribe button,

[43:33] smash that like button,

[43:35] leave a comment.

[43:36] Leave some comments,

[43:37] please.

Dan McCoy

[43:37] So Batman's part here,

[43:39] right,

[43:39] is to break into the...

[43:40] Only fire emojis.

[43:41] Hashtag Batman do it all.

[43:43] So Batman breaks

[43:44] into the testicle,

[43:45] but once they're in there,

[43:47] like,

[43:47] what we got is basically

[43:48] a back to the future scenario,

[43:50] right,

[43:51] where, like,

[43:52] Cyborg is holding the box.

Elliott Kalan

[43:54] Where Batman's mom

[43:55] really wants to sleep with him,

[43:57] because she doesn't know

[43:58] that Batman's gonna grow up

[43:59] to be his son.

Dan McCoy

[44:00] The Flash has to race by

[44:01] and charge up Cyborg

[44:03] so he can shoot

[44:04] into the lawnmower man.

[44:05] Yeah, that seems to be there.

[44:06] That's like the fucking

Stuart Wellington

[44:07] fastball special of this team,

[44:08] right,

[44:08] is that they just, like,

[44:09] they keep doing this shit

[44:10] over and over and again.

[44:12] So they have a...

Elliott Kalan

[44:13] So it's really,

[44:14] this movie is really,

[44:15] in a big way,

[44:15] much more than the original one.

[44:16] This is the Flash

[44:17] and Cyborgs movie.

[44:18] Yeah.

[44:18] Like,

[44:19] I feel like part of

[44:20] Joss Whedon's mission statement

[44:22] was like,

[44:23] we gotta de-Flash

[44:24] and de-Cyborg this movie

[44:25] because they get so much

[44:26] more to do here

[44:26] and it's so much more

[44:27] their story,

[44:28] but I don't remember them

[44:28] that much from the original

[44:29] version of it.

[44:30] No, I'm totally with you.

Dan McCoy

[44:31] And also,

[44:31] I mean,

[44:32] let's be honest,

[44:33] like,

[44:33] they are given

[44:34] the most character

[44:36] to play, too.

[44:38] So it's weird to me

[44:39] that they were, like,

[44:39] so cut down

[44:41] in the shorter version

[44:42] because they're the only ones

[44:43] who have anything

[44:44] that approaches

[44:44] a personality.

[44:45] Yeah.

[44:46] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[44:47] everybody else feels like

[44:48] kind of established characters

[44:50] that you're supposed

[44:52] to already give a shit about

[44:54] and the two of them

[44:55] you actually,

[44:56] they feel like they have arcs.

[44:58] So there's this action sequence

[45:00] where they're, like,

[45:00] running through,

[45:01] I'm hoping,

[45:03] an abandoned town

[45:04] because they blow

Elliott Kalan

[45:05] the fucking shit out of it.

[45:07] It was established

[45:08] earlier on.

[45:08] It is abandoned.

[45:09] The radiation levels

[45:10] are so high

[45:10] no one can survive there

[45:11] except superheroes.

Stuart Wellington

[45:12] Although Steppenwolf

[45:13] took all the radiation

[45:14] when he built his cool-ass

[45:16] energy testicles, so...

Elliott Kalan

[45:17] So maybe Steppenwolf's

[45:18] not the bad guy.

[45:19] He's de-irradiating towns.

[45:21] This is like at the end

[45:22] of Godzilla King of the Monsters

[45:23] when it was revealed

[45:24] that to solve climate change

[45:25] we just needed to set

[45:26] a big bunch of kaiju around

[45:28] to smash buildings

[45:29] and that would make

[45:29] everything better.

Stuart Wellington

[45:30] I don't know how comfortable

[45:31] I am with Elliot doing PR

[45:32] for Steppenwolf right now,

[45:33] but we'll talk about that

[45:34] after the episode.

Elliott Kalan

[45:35] I'm just saying

[45:36] there's two sides of the story

[45:37] and it has nothing

[45:38] at all to do

[45:39] with the payments

[45:40] I recently received

[45:41] from Step and Wolf.

[45:43] It's a law firm

[45:44] in no way affiliated

[45:45] with Steppenwolf,

[45:46] the cosmic supervillain.

[45:48] I'm just saying,

[45:49] hey guys,

[45:49] have you thought

[45:50] maybe this whole

[45:51] Steppenwolf hoax

[45:52] is just the deep state

[45:54] trying to get at someone

[45:55] who's really trying

[45:55] to get to the bottom

[45:56] of the questions

[45:57] of our time?

[45:58] Questions like,

[45:59] what happened

[45:59] to Baby Dinosaur?

[46:00] Is he still around?

[46:02] Or did he go extinct

[46:03] with all the other ones?

[46:04] I'm just saying

[46:04] maybe Steppenwolf

[46:05] got a little too...

[46:06] And I know I said

[46:07] Steppenwolf.

[46:07] Maybe Steppenwolf

[46:08] who also goes by Steppenwolf.

[46:10] Yeah, that's

[46:11] Laser Wolf's little brother.

[46:12] Maybe Steppenwolf

[46:14] descended from Laser Wolf,

[46:16] the butcher from

[46:17] Fiddler on the Roof

[46:18] whose name,

[46:18] now they think about it,

[46:19] is more of a supervillain name

[46:20] than Steppenwolf's name

[46:21] because if he was called

[46:22] Laser Wolf,

[46:22] you'd be like,

[46:23] yeah, definitely.

[46:24] He works for Darkseid,

[46:24] sure he's a wolf

[46:25] who shoots lasers

[46:25] out of his eyes.

[46:26] But anyway,

[46:27] I'm just saying,

[46:27] Steppenwolf,

[46:28] shall we?

Dan McCoy

[46:29] I gotta admit,

[46:30] as much as I did love

[46:31] Fiddler on the Roof

[46:32] when you showed it to me,

[46:33] Elliot,

[46:34] I loved it.

[46:35] I thought it was fantastic.

[46:37] I was a little disappointed

[46:38] when the character

[46:40] Laser Wolf showed up

[46:41] and he was just a guy.

Elliott Kalan

[46:44] Yeah, it is disappointing.

[46:46] It's disappointing.

[46:46] I can only hit it up

[46:48] to the fact that

[46:48] in Yiddish,

[46:50] laser and wolf

[46:51] are different words

[46:51] than in English.

[46:53] I assume when Sholem Aleichem

[46:56] was writing the original

[46:57] Tevye the Dairyman stories,

[46:58] he didn't think,

[46:59] yeah,

[46:59] I'm gonna give this character

[47:00] a badass superhero name

[47:01] and then I'm gonna reveal

[47:02] that he's just a butcher.

[47:04] Yeah.

[47:04] He's just a middle-aged butcher

[47:05] who's lonely

[47:07] and would like to marry

[47:08] Tevye's daughter.

[47:09] Now,

[47:09] the people who...

[47:11] Doesn't work out.

[47:12] But,

[47:12] but,

[47:13] was it Harmon and Bonk?

[47:14] I'm trying to remember

[47:14] who wrote the stage show

[47:16] Fiddler on the Roof.

[47:16] They should know better.

[47:18] They knew English.

[47:19] They should know that

[47:19] Laser Wolf was writing checks

[47:20] that they couldn't cash.

[47:21] Let's just call him Joseph.

[47:25] You have to imagine

[47:25] these,

[47:26] these audiences,

[47:27] these,

[47:27] it's 1968.

[47:28] These audiences of,

[47:29] like,

[47:30] synagogue groups

[47:30] are being bussed into Manhattan

[47:32] to go see Fiddler on the Roof

[47:33] and they hear the name Laser Wolf

[47:34] and all the men in the audience

[47:35] go,

[47:35] oh,

[47:36] interesting,

Dan McCoy

[47:37] okay.

Stuart Wellington

[47:39] Let's check the playbill

[47:41] to see who's playing this.

[47:42] Is it Hugh Jackman?

[47:43] I love him.

[47:44] Actually,

[47:44] to be honest,

[47:45] the only,

Elliott Kalan

[47:46] to be honest,

[47:47] I can't,

[47:48] I can't imagine a world

[47:49] where Jack Kirby,

[47:50] who was,

[47:50] of course,

[47:51] Jewish,

[47:51] went to see Fiddler on the Roof

[47:54] and heard there was a character

[47:55] named Laser Wolf

[47:56] and had already in his mind

[47:58] had built up a 40 book epic

[47:59] about this guy who is,

[48:01] he goes,

[48:01] he's a werewolf,

[48:02] but he also can turn into a laser

[48:03] because of something that happened

[48:04] on the light of a full moon

[48:06] and then the character shows up

[48:08] what,

[48:08] hold on,

[48:09] my version of,

[48:10] my version of Laser Wolf

[48:12] would be so much better.

[48:13] At least my characters

[48:14] will be so clearly defined

[48:15] that they could never be

[48:16] misinterpreted in this way.

[48:18] Yeah,

Dan McCoy

[48:18] and then Stan Lee

[48:19] was behind him

[48:20] taking notes

[48:20] about the character

[48:21] that Jack Kirby

[48:22] was coming up with.

Elliott Kalan

[48:23] And then wrote at the bottom,

[48:25] Laser Wolf copyright Stan Lee

[48:26] at the bottom of the,

Stuart Wellington

[48:27] at the bottom of the,

[48:27] if there was a Twitter

[48:29] at the time,

[48:29] the like,

[48:30] sketches that Jack Kirby

[48:32] would have posted

[48:33] immediately after seeing the show

[48:35] would be amazing.

Elliott Kalan

[48:36] Yeah,

[48:37] it would be amazing.

[48:38] Or,

[48:38] or,

[48:38] here's the other thing

[48:39] that might have happened

[48:39] is that Jack Kirby

[48:41] was brought in

[48:42] as a script doctor

[48:43] when they were,

[48:44] if we're out of town,

[48:44] tryouts,

[48:45] the Fiddler on the Roof

[48:46] there's just one problem,

[48:47] that butcher,

[48:48] he shouldn't be named

[48:49] Jakob anymore.

[48:50] What should we name him?

[48:51] Laser Wolf.

[48:53] Okay,

[48:53] it seems inappropriate

[48:54] for the character.

[48:55] He doesn't have lasers,

[48:56] he's not a wolf.

[48:57] Well,

[48:58] let's see how the name works

[48:59] and then we can go from there.

[49:00] And the name was such a hit

[49:01] with audiences.

[49:02] They would say,

[49:04] Yento walks in,

[49:05] she goes,

[49:05] I have a match

[49:06] for your eldest,

[49:07] Seitel.

[49:07] Who is it?

[49:08] Who?

[49:08] Laser Wolf.

[49:09] And audiences were just

[49:10] standing ovations,

[49:11] lost their shit.

[49:12] They just,

[49:13] they didn't even hear

[49:13] the rest of the show.

[49:14] And then the wall explodes

Dan McCoy

[49:15] and he goes,

[49:15] oh yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[49:18] Yeah,

[49:19] yeah,

[49:19] yeah.

[49:19] It's when,

[49:20] it's like when I heard

[49:20] about that comic

[49:21] that was written

[49:22] by a little kid

[49:23] and drawn by his like

[49:24] uncle or something,

[49:25] that comic Axe Cop.

[49:26] Axe Cop,

[49:26] yeah.

[49:27] I'm like,

[49:27] not nearly,

[49:28] like,

[49:28] sorry kid.

[49:29] Sorry little kid,

[49:30] but Laser Wolf

[49:31] beat you to the punch,

[49:32] dude.

[49:35] So,

[49:37] the team runs

[49:39] around the streets,

[49:40] Batman again,

[49:41] traditionally doesn't

[49:42] use guns,

[49:43] goes ape shit

[49:44] with all kinds of guns.

[49:45] He uses the guns

[49:46] on his tank

[49:47] and then after he's

[49:48] done using that shit,

[49:49] he takes alien guns

[49:50] and starts blasting

[49:51] them with their own shit.

[49:52] It's fucking nuts.

[49:54] He like shoots them

[49:55] all in the head

[49:56] and shit.

[49:56] He's probably like,

[49:57] thank God,

[49:58] I've been mean to shoot dudes,

[50:00] couldn't do it

[50:01] because they're humans,

[50:02] but since you guys

[50:03] are parademons,

[50:03] I can go crazy.

Elliott Kalan

[50:05] Yeah,

[50:06] just because you

[50:06] walk on two legs

[50:08] and have faces

[50:09] doesn't mean

[50:09] you're not just animals

[50:10] I can blast to pieces

[50:11] with these lasers.

[50:13] And the parademons,

[50:14] they don't put up

[50:14] the best showing.

[50:16] You've got to imagine

[50:16] that at some point

[50:18] in the history

[50:18] of the many thousands

[50:19] of years that Darkseid

[50:20] has been conking worlds,

[50:21] someone has gotten a hold

[50:22] of one of these laser guns

[50:23] on another planet

[50:24] and done some damage

[50:26] to the parademons.

[50:27] The parademons are

[50:27] the most canonist of fodder.

[50:29] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[50:30] So we have a battle,

[50:32] like everybody gets a chance

[50:33] to do some fun,

[50:34] cool stuff,

[50:35] whatever.

[50:36] But it all boils down

[50:38] to the majority.

Elliott Kalan

[50:39] I think it was around the point

[50:41] that Aquaman impaled

[50:42] two parademons

[50:43] with his trident

[50:44] and there was green blood

[50:46] everywhere that I was like,

[50:47] I think I do want

[50:49] my daddy's DC heroes.

[50:51] Yeah,

Stuart Wellington

[50:51] yeah.

[50:52] You're like,

[50:52] is there a different

[50:53] cut of this?

Dan McCoy

[50:55] Is there a cut

[50:56] where the heroes

[50:57] take less glee

[50:58] and slaughter?

[50:59] Yeah.

[50:59] Is there a cut of this

[51:00] that's just the Iron Giant?

Stuart Wellington

[51:04] So it boils down

[51:06] to Wonder Woman,

[51:08] Aquaman,

[51:09] and Cyborg

[51:10] in that reactor

[51:11] while the mother boxes

[51:13] are sinking up.

[51:14] As you can see,

[51:15] there's a little status bar

[51:16] above them

[51:17] and it's almost full.

[51:19] Steppenwolf shows up

[51:20] and we have a battle.

[51:21] Steppenwolf is super tough.

[51:23] They keep trying to get him

[51:24] away from the box.

[51:25] It's not a terrible action sequence.

[51:27] I kind of like the idea

[51:28] that they keep just trying

[51:29] to lead this tough guy

[51:30] away from the box

[51:31] so Cyborg can,

[51:33] I guess,

[51:33] meld with it or whatever.

Elliott Kalan

[51:35] It's a good setup.

[51:36] In my notes,

[51:37] I did write pretty dull.

[51:38] Yeah.

[51:39] Okay, cool.

[51:40] It's a,

[51:41] I think,

[51:42] after you've seen one fight

[51:43] in a dark warehouse

[51:45] of these guys

[51:46] punching each other,

[51:47] to see another one,

[51:47] it's like,

[51:48] at least make it look

[51:50] a little different.

[51:50] Oh, of course.

[51:51] Yeah.

[51:53] And Cyborg's plan

[51:54] seems to be like,

[51:54] yeah,

[51:55] jump into the Unity,

[51:57] question mark,

[51:58] question mark,

[51:58] save world.

[51:59] Yeah.

[52:00] So meanwhile,

[52:00] I know computers.

[52:02] I'm like Donatello.

[52:03] I know machines.

[52:03] I can stop the Unity.

Stuart Wellington

[52:04] And meanwhile,

[52:05] Flash is running circles

[52:06] around this thing.

[52:07] He's just waiting

[52:08] for the go-ahead

[52:08] so he can touch Cyborg

[52:10] on the shoulder

[52:11] and they can activate,

[52:13] they can de-unity it

[52:14] or push him into the Unity.

Elliott Kalan

[52:16] He's going to give him

[52:17] some kind of super shove

[52:18] that will allow him

[52:18] to enter the Unity

[52:19] and become a being

[52:20] of pure information,

[52:21] I suppose.

[52:22] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[52:22] He has to have,

[52:24] Wonder Woman needs to like,

[52:26] you know,

[52:27] be on all fours

[52:28] like to trip Cyborg

[52:31] behind him.

[52:32] He'll shove him

[52:33] into the Unity.

Elliott Kalan

[52:35] It's got to be a surprise

[52:36] or else it doesn't work.

[52:37] That's Unity rules.

Stuart Wellington

[52:38] Yeah.

[52:39] And things are looking

[52:39] at their worst.

[52:41] Unity's happening.

[52:43] Flash gets blasted

[52:44] by an alien cannon

[52:46] and Steppenwolf

[52:48] is ascendant

[52:50] at this point

[52:50] and then of course

[52:51] that's when Superman

[52:52] shows up.

[52:54] He takes a Steppenwolf

[52:55] axe to the chest.

[52:56] He's like,

[52:57] unimpressive.

[52:58] I don't care.

[52:59] And then he proceeds

[53:00] to beat the shit

[53:01] out of Steppenwolf.

[53:02] He starts blasting

[53:04] his armor off

[53:04] with his laser beams.

[53:05] It's kind of fucked up.

[53:07] I'm like,

[53:07] whoa, chill out, dude.

[53:08] It's cool.

Elliott Kalan

[53:10] It feels like

[53:11] every movie

[53:13] about how bad

[53:13] revenge is

[53:14] where you're like,

[53:15] yeah,

[53:15] I can't wait

[53:16] to see this guy

[53:16] get revenge

[53:17] and then they torture

[53:18] the bad guy

[53:19] this is not,

[53:20] oh,

[53:20] this was an anti-revenge movie.

[53:22] I feel bad now.

Dan McCoy

[53:23] Immediately,

[53:24] immediately,

[53:24] Audrey's like,

[53:25] I kind of feel bad

[53:26] for Steppenwolf now.

[53:27] Yeah.

[53:28] Like,

[53:28] Superman is

[53:30] wailing on him.

Stuart Wellington

[53:32] And then he lasers

[53:33] off one of his horns

[53:35] and I'm like,

[53:35] that's part of his body,

[53:36] dude.

[53:37] He's bleeding.

Elliott Kalan

[53:38] I think it is part

[53:39] of his helmet.

[53:39] You think it was part

[53:40] of his head?

[53:40] Yeah,

[53:41] there's blood

[53:41] all over the place.

[53:42] Yeah,

[53:42] like,

[53:42] I didn't even notice

[53:43] the blood.

[53:43] Yeah,

[53:44] it's crazy.

[53:44] I'm shielding my eyes.

[53:46] Yeah,

Stuart Wellington

[53:47] Elliot had to close his eyes

[53:49] because he was too scary.

Elliott Kalan

[53:50] Yeah,

[53:50] I think the part

[53:51] where Superman

[53:51] picked up the last photo

[53:53] that Steppenwolf owned

[53:54] of his mother

[53:54] and then burned it

[53:55] with his laser vision

[53:56] was a bit much.

Stuart Wellington

[53:57] And Steppenwolf's like,

[53:58] Martha!

Elliott Kalan

[54:02] He's just calling up

[54:03] girls Steppenwolf

[54:04] had crushes on

[54:04] in high school

[54:05] and telling him

[54:06] what a loser

[54:06] Steppenwolf is.

Stuart Wellington

[54:07] Fucking savage,

[54:08] right?

[54:08] Oh,

[54:09] it's crazy.

[54:10] So,

[54:10] Flash realizes,

[54:12] oh no,

[54:13] despite beating

[54:14] the trash

[54:15] shot of Steppenwolf,

[54:16] it's not enough,

[54:17] the unity's happened,

[54:19] the portal's opening,

[54:21] there's only one thing

[54:22] he can do,

[54:22] that's right,

[54:23] run fast enough

[54:24] to rewind time

[54:25] a little bit

[54:26] so he can fix it.

[54:27] Again,

[54:28] not into this,

[54:29] and it's like

[54:30] a weird like

[54:31] prog metal album cover

[54:32] of The Flash

[54:33] running super fast.

[54:35] Hit Cyborg

[54:36] and Cyborg

[54:36] goes into the unity.

[54:38] You're so bored by this

Dan McCoy

[54:39] and I have to admit

[54:40] like this is the one time

[54:41] where I felt like

[54:42] there were any

[54:43] like stakes

[54:44] in any of the

[54:45] the fighting scene

[54:46] because like it,

[54:48] you know,

[54:49] like usually I'm not

[54:50] into like the whole

[54:51] like,

[54:51] ugh,

[54:52] the one thing

[54:52] I've always

[54:53] tried to avoid doing

[54:54] is the one thing

[54:55] I must do

[54:56] but like

[54:57] it did have a nice

[54:58] feeling of at least

[54:59] like this part

[55:00] of it had some

[55:01] sort of import

[55:02] especially because

[55:03] like The Flash

[55:04] has just been

[55:04] like severely injured

[55:06] and he's pushing

[55:07] himself so hard.

[55:08] And you've seen

[55:09] the mother box

Elliott Kalan

[55:10] scour the earth

[55:11] of living beings.

Dan McCoy

[55:11] Yeah,

[55:11] I kind of like

[55:12] this as the road

[55:15] reconstitutes

[55:16] in front of his feet.

Elliott Kalan

[55:18] Now just to provide

[55:18] a competing opinion

[55:20] to Dan's,

[55:20] Dan I know

[55:21] knows all about

[55:22] stakes and not

[55:22] just because he's

[55:23] such a devotee

[55:24] of Don Shula

[55:24] and his eponymous

[55:25] stake chain

[55:26] which again

[55:27] is a pretty good

[55:28] stake chain.

[55:29] I'd call it

[55:29] maybe a solid three

[55:31] after of course

[55:32] Morton's and Ruth's

[55:33] Chris.

[55:33] I'm sure there's

[55:34] others I'm forgetting

[55:34] that maybe are

[55:35] better than Don Shula's

[55:35] but if you're

[55:36] going to put

[55:36] Tads on there

[55:37] that's like

[55:38] number 70.

[55:39] They're not even

[55:39] real stakes

[55:40] or sandwiches.

[55:41] Anyway,

[55:41] so I have to admit

[55:45] I took a break

[55:45] between the first

[55:46] half and the second

[55:47] half of this movie

[55:47] and watched another

[55:48] movie in between

[55:49] because I needed

[55:50] something else

[55:51] and this is going

[55:51] to be a stealth

[55:52] recommendation

[55:53] because we're not

[55:53] doing recommendations

[55:54] this episode

[55:54] but I watched

[55:55] the movie

[55:55] Straight Time

[55:56] with Dustin Hoffman

[55:57] it's a movie

[55:57] from the 70s

[55:58] where he's a guy

[55:58] who gets out of jail

[55:59] tries to go straight

[56:00] cannot do it

[56:02] and falls back

[56:02] into crime again

[56:03] and there's a scene

[56:04] in that movie

[56:05] where he and

[56:05] Harry Dean Stanton

[56:06] are robbing

[56:07] a jewelry store

[56:07] that Dustin Hoffman

[56:09] has previously

[56:09] brought his girlfriend

[56:10] to.

[56:10] He showed her

[56:11] a watch

[56:11] that was

[56:11] too expensive

[56:12] for him to buy

[56:13] but one of his

[56:14] motives in robbing

[56:15] this jewelry store

[56:16] is he wants

[56:16] to get that

[56:17] watch for her

[56:17] and he's plotted

[56:18] it all out

[56:19] with Harry Dean

[56:19] Stanton

[56:19] they have a minute

[56:20] and a half

[56:20] after the alarm

[56:21] goes off

[56:21] to get to the

[56:22] getaway car

[56:23] and leave

[56:24] before the cops

[56:24] get there

[56:24] and Dustin Hoffman

[56:27] is smashing

[56:27] all the jewelry

[56:28] cases

[56:28] and he's looking

[56:29] for that watch

[56:29] and he cannot

[56:30] find it

[56:30] and he's screaming

[56:31] at the people

[56:31] who work at the store

[56:32] where's that watch

[56:33] there's a watch

[56:33] here

[56:34] where's that watch

[56:34] and Harry Dean

[56:35] Stanton

[56:35] who doesn't know

[56:36] that Dustin Hoffman

[56:36] wants this watch

[56:37] for his girlfriend

[56:37] is yelling

[56:38] gotta go man

[56:39] gotta get out of here

[56:40] gotta get out of here man

[56:41] we gotta leave

[56:42] and Dustin Hoffman

[56:43] is losing it

[56:43] like smashing this stuff

[56:45] and just digging

[56:45] through the glass

[56:46] in the cases

[56:47] trying to find this watch

[56:48] while Harry Dean

[56:49] Stanton

[56:49] is going

[56:49] gotta go

[56:50] gotta get out of here man

[56:51] and I was so

[56:52] in such suspense

[56:54] like the stakes

[56:55] in that moment

[56:55] were so high for me

[56:56] and I was so

[56:57] I was like cringing

[56:58] because I knew

[56:58] I was like

[56:59] get the hell out of there

[56:59] what are you doing

[57:00] and then I watched

[57:02] the second half

[57:02] and I was like

[57:03] oh Flash

[57:04] has gotta run fast

[57:05] enough to go back

[57:05] in time

[57:05] to save all life

[57:06] on earth

[57:06] ho hum

[57:08] like so it was like

[57:09] there are stakes

[57:10] in this moment

[57:11] but there's still such

[57:12] if only Harry Dean

[57:13] Stanton

[57:13] could run that fast

Dan McCoy

[57:14] I mean Elliot

[57:15] when compared

[57:17] to another film

[57:18] yes you are correct

[57:20] I'm grading on a curve

[57:22] that exists within

[57:23] the film

[57:23] just as well

Elliott Kalan

[57:24] and that's fair

[57:25] and that's fair

[57:26] but it pointed up to me

[57:27] seeing those two things

[57:28] back to back

[57:28] just kind of like

[57:29] how little humanity

[57:31] there was in this one

[57:32] it is on that big

[57:33] that big cosmic

[57:34] metaphorical level

[57:35] but I don't know

[57:36] what it's saying

[57:37] and so there's big stakes

[57:38] but it just couldn't

[57:39] match the stakes

[57:40] of like Dustin Hoffman

[57:41] looking for a watch

[57:42] that he couldn't find

[57:43] while Harry Dean

[57:43] or while Harry Dean

[57:44] Stanton yells at him

[57:45] you know

[57:45] yeah

Stuart Wellington

[57:46] so of course

[57:47] he touches Cyborg

[57:48] Cyborg goes into the box

[57:50] Cyborg sees himself

[57:52] and his parents

[57:53] who are both dead

[57:54] and they're like

[57:55] hey we did it

[57:56] we can stay here forever

[57:58] and he's like

[57:58] not so fast guys

[58:00] you're the three mother boxes

[58:02] trying to trick me

[58:02] so he sticks his little hands

[58:04] in them

[58:04] and they turn into boxes

[58:06] like demons

[58:07] for a little bit

[58:07] then they turn into boxes

[58:08] and then

[58:09] cut to the real world

[58:10] Superman's helping him

[58:12] pull those boxes apart

[58:13] just we see through a portal

[58:15] Darkseid is not happy

[58:16] he's like bumming out

[58:18] he's hanging out with Dasad

[58:19] and I'm assuming

[58:19] Granny Goodness

[58:20] I can't really tell

[58:21] they don't name her

[58:21] it looked like it was

[58:22] probably Granny Goodness

[58:23] so they manage

[58:25] to separate the boxes

[58:26] and then they

[58:27] beat the shit out of

[58:28] Steppenwolf some more

[58:30] Aquaman like

[58:32] spears him through the back

[58:33] and blood flies everywhere

[58:34] and then they like

[58:36] chuck him through the portal

[58:37] and Wonder Woman

[58:38] makes a point to like

[58:39] do a dope flip maneuver

[58:41] and chop his head off

[58:43] while he's flying

[58:44] and she chops it off

[58:45] so fast

[58:46] that both the body

[58:47] and the head

[58:48] fly through the portal

[58:49] at the same time

Elliott Kalan

[58:51] to land at Darkseid's feet

[58:52] yeah

[58:53] as if just to say like

[58:54] hey

[58:55] we're worse than you

[58:56] yes

Stuart Wellington

[58:56] yeah

[58:58] they send a message

[58:59] and Darkseid like

[59:00] like

[59:01] does a proper trap

[59:03] with his foot

[59:03] like wow

[59:04] has he been

[59:04] does he play soccer

[59:06] in his free time

[59:06] and he like

[59:09] smushes

Dan McCoy

[59:10] he does play a lot

[59:11] of soccer

Stuart Wellington

[59:11] and he like

[59:12] smushes the head

[59:13] a little bit

[59:13] and you're like

[59:14] whoa dude

[59:15] I know like

[59:16] you don't

[59:16] you're kind of an asshole

[59:17] I mean that's his character

[59:20] right

[59:20] but like

[59:22] you know this dude

[59:23] don't step on his face

[59:24] and this is

Dan McCoy

[59:25] he thinks that

[59:26] a Darkseid from the other team

[59:27] is gonna come in

[59:28] and try to kick it away

[59:29] I get it

[59:30] I get it

Elliott Kalan

[59:31] so and as everyone knows

[59:32] in soccer

[59:32] if you squish the ball

[59:33] you automatically win the game

[59:35] oh yeah yeah

[59:36] so here's

[59:38] this is me

[59:39] this is me giving

[59:39] some script notes

[59:40] on a movie

[59:40] that is already finished

[59:41] and also re-edited once

[59:43] so it's been released twice

[59:44] yeah

[59:45] if you're gonna go

[59:46] when you're gonna go back

[59:47] and do another cut of it

[59:48] I still don't know

[59:49] why they chose

[59:50] Steppenwolf

[59:50] as the bad guy

[59:52] rather than

[59:53] Calaback

[59:53] because the movie

[59:54] is building up

[59:55] this theme

[59:55] of fathers and sons

[59:56] you have

[59:57] Cyborg and his dad

[59:58] Flash and his dad

[1:00:00] you have Superman

[1:00:01] and his memory

[1:00:01] of his dad

[1:00:02] you have Bruce Wayne

[1:00:03] who never had a dad

[1:00:03] but Alfred kind of functions

[1:00:04] as a father for him

[1:00:05] Wonder Woman

[1:00:06] she's a lady

[1:00:07] she's dealing with her mom

[1:00:08] that's how this movie works

[1:00:09] if you're a boy

[1:00:10] you deal with your dad

[1:00:11] if you're a woman

[1:00:11] you deal with your mom

Stuart Wellington

[1:00:12] and there's also

[1:00:13] a Lois Lane scene

[1:00:14] where she is missing

[1:00:16] a dead Superman

[1:00:18] and she very clearly

[1:00:20] opens up a nightstand drawer

[1:00:22] and there's a pregnancy test there

Elliott Kalan

[1:00:24] yes

[1:00:25] so it's like

[1:00:25] they're dealing with

[1:00:26] this thing of parentage

[1:00:27] so why not have

[1:00:29] the bad guy be Calaback

[1:00:30] Darkseid's actual son

[1:00:32] who is always mad

[1:00:33] because he lives

[1:00:34] in the shadow of Orion

[1:00:35] the secret son

[1:00:37] that Darkseid really likes more

[1:00:38] even though he's

[1:00:39] dedicated to overthrowing Darkseid

[1:00:40] maybe they're saving them

[1:00:41] for the new gods movie

[1:00:42] I don't know

[1:00:43] but it was like

[1:00:43] this is

[1:00:44] this is NFTs on the table

[1:00:46] that you're leaving here

[1:00:47] Zack Snyder's Justice League

[1:00:49] should have made it Calaback

[1:00:50] and then it's like

[1:00:51] how brutal is he

[1:00:52] to squish his own son's head

[1:00:53] because he's disappointed

[1:00:54] in his son

[1:00:55] that makes Darkseid

[1:00:56] even badder mother

[1:00:57] but the worst mother of all

[1:00:58] probably Superman's mom

[1:01:00] who disappears from the movie

[1:01:02] and doesn't seem to want

[1:01:02] to spend time with her

[1:01:03] revive from the dead son

[1:01:04] anymore

[1:01:05] it's John Jones

[1:01:05] it's Martian Manhunter

[1:01:06] that's what I'm telling you

[1:01:07] that's fair

[1:01:07] that's true

[1:01:09] but if he's going to

[1:01:10] keep up the roots

[1:01:10] he's got to keep

[1:01:11] taking Superman out

[1:01:12] for dinners

[1:01:12] and things like that

[1:01:13] and arguing over

[1:01:14] who's going to pay

[1:01:14] the check and stuff

Stuart Wellington

[1:01:15] so Elliot's jumping

[1:01:16] to the front right

[1:01:16] so we have a little

[1:01:18] bit of hero moment

[1:01:19] they all stand

[1:01:20] and they survey

[1:01:22] the world they've just saved

[1:01:23] and now we are

[1:01:24] into epilogue

[1:01:25] that's right

[1:01:25] there's 30 minutes left

[1:01:27] and that's the epilogue

[1:01:28] epilogue titled

[1:01:30] Daddy Issues

[1:01:32] Aquaman's like

[1:01:34] fuck this

[1:01:35] I don't want to go

[1:01:35] back to Atlantis

[1:01:36] I'm going to ride

[1:01:37] around in a truck

[1:01:37] and you're like

[1:01:38] fair dude

[1:01:39] that's cool

[1:01:39] well he says he's going

[1:01:40] to go visit his dad

[1:01:41] that's more dad stuff

[1:01:42] yeah

[1:01:42] Batman decides to turn

[1:01:45] the ruins of Wayne Manor

[1:01:47] into Justice League

[1:01:48] headquarters

[1:01:49] okay man

[1:01:50] whatever

[1:01:50] Flash gets a job

[1:01:53] while talking to his dad

[1:01:55] I don't think he gets it

[1:01:57] while talking to his dad

[1:01:57] I think he announced it

[1:01:59] to his dad

[1:01:59] I don't think they

Elliott Kalan

[1:02:00] they didn't hand him

[1:02:01] the letter

[1:02:01] while he was like

[1:02:02] hey can I do the job

[1:02:04] interview on

[1:02:04] in the prison

[1:02:05] while I'm visiting my dad

[1:02:06] I mean he

[1:02:07] he moves really fast

[1:02:08] he could have done

[1:02:09] done at the same time

[1:02:11] you're right

[1:02:12] he gets a job

[1:02:13] in a crime lab

[1:02:14] speaking of labs

[1:02:15] we see Star Labs

[1:02:15] briefly

[1:02:16] and we get

[1:02:16] we realize that

[1:02:17] the guy who's been

[1:02:18] working for Dr. Stone

[1:02:19] this whole time

[1:02:20] was Ryan Choi

[1:02:21] who specializes

[1:02:22] in nanotechnology

[1:02:23] that's right guys

[1:02:24] it's the Adam

[1:02:24] he's going to be

[1:02:25] in a future movie

[1:02:26] I guess

[1:02:26] oh okay

[1:02:27] I saw

Dan McCoy

[1:02:27] well I looked

[1:02:28] in the Wikipedia

[1:02:29] that like

[1:02:30] they said that

[1:02:31] there was a

[1:02:31] proposed Adam

[1:02:33] spinoff

[1:02:33] that they didn't do

[1:02:35] but it

[1:02:36] even

[1:02:36] it just makes it

[1:02:37] even more glaring

[1:02:38] at the end though

[1:02:39] because

[1:02:39] that character

[1:02:40] has been given

[1:02:41] next to nothing

[1:02:42] to do for the

[1:02:43] entire movie

[1:02:43] and then at the end

[1:02:44] there's this little

[1:02:45] wink like

[1:02:45] I'm important

[1:02:46] you know

Stuart Wellington

[1:02:47] yeah

[1:02:49] the

[1:02:50] Superman

[1:02:51] manages to get

[1:02:52] his mom's house

[1:02:53] back

[1:02:54] and

[1:02:55] Bruce Wayne's there

[1:02:56] and he's like

[1:02:56] how'd you do it

[1:02:57] Bruce

[1:02:57] and we've already

[1:02:58] established that

[1:02:59] Bruce Wayne

[1:02:59] is super rich

[1:03:01] I bought the bank

[1:03:02] and you're like

[1:03:03] oh cool

[1:03:03] I guess dude

[1:03:04] like

Elliott Kalan

[1:03:04] it's also like

[1:03:05] why don't you

[1:03:06] just buy the house

Dan McCoy

[1:03:06] dude

[1:03:07] like you gotta flex

[1:03:08] exactly

[1:03:09] the bank doesn't

[1:03:10] necessarily have

[1:03:10] an interest

[1:03:11] in keeping

[1:03:11] the house

[1:03:12] it's the value

[1:03:14] of the house

[1:03:15] that the bank

[1:03:16] is interested in

[1:03:16] yeah

Stuart Wellington

[1:03:17] fucking

[1:03:17] fix Flint's

[1:03:18] water

[1:03:18] dude

[1:03:19] this is why

Dan McCoy

[1:03:21] he's a

[1:03:21] like he's not

[1:03:22] only

[1:03:22] he's just a

[1:03:24] bad

[1:03:24] bad at being

[1:03:25] a billionaire

[1:03:26] really

[1:03:26] is what it

[1:03:27] is

[1:03:27] like

Elliott Kalan

[1:03:27] they're like

[1:03:28] hey

[1:03:29] all these guys

[1:03:29] were giving

[1:03:30] money to fix

[1:03:30] Notre Dame

[1:03:31] I bought

[1:03:31] France

[1:03:32] done

[1:03:32] that's not

[1:03:33] gonna solve

[1:03:34] the problem

[1:03:34] Bruce

Dan McCoy

[1:03:35] yeah

[1:03:36] I mean

[1:03:36] it's

[1:03:36] gonna waste

[1:03:37] all the money

[1:03:37] that could go

[1:03:37] to crime

[1:03:38] fighting

[1:03:38] it's cause

[1:03:39] it's cause

[1:03:40] every time

Stuart Wellington

[1:03:41] tries to get

[1:03:41] any work done

[1:03:42] like a

[1:03:42] Martian Manhunter

[1:03:43] shows up

[1:03:43] and talks to

Elliott Kalan

[1:03:44] him

[1:03:44] but we'll get

[1:03:44] yeah that's

[1:03:45] true

[1:03:45] it's

[1:03:45] Philip Johnson

[1:03:46] Glasshouse

[1:03:46] and he's

[1:03:48] all like

[1:03:48] he's all

[1:03:48] like

[1:03:48] I don't

[1:03:49] wanna

[1:03:49] I don't

[1:03:49] wanna

[1:03:49] cure cancer

[1:03:50] I wanna

[1:03:50] turn people

[1:03:51] into dinosaurs

[1:03:52] referencing

[1:03:52] my own

[1:03:53] work

[1:03:53] whoa

Stuart Wellington

[1:03:53] I don't

[1:03:55] know

[1:03:55] I thought

[1:03:55] that was

[1:03:55] written by

[1:03:56] a popular

[1:03:57] comic book

[1:03:57] writer

[1:03:58] whose name

[1:03:58] I don't

[1:03:58] remember

[1:03:59] anonymous

Dan McCoy

[1:04:01] internet

[1:04:02] it was

Elliott Kalan

[1:04:04] written by

[1:04:04] the gestalt

[1:04:05] mind of

[1:04:05] twitter

Stuart Wellington

[1:04:05] so

[1:04:07] they get

[1:04:08] the house

[1:04:08] back

[1:04:08] we get

[1:04:10] a

[1:04:10] Lex Luthor

[1:04:11] has managed

[1:04:11] to break

[1:04:12] out of

[1:04:12] Arkham

[1:04:13] Asylum

[1:04:13] and he

[1:04:15] is hanging

[1:04:15] out on

[1:04:16] a cool

[1:04:16] yacht

[1:04:16] and a

[1:04:17] little guy

[1:04:18] named

[1:04:18] Slade

[1:04:19] Wilson

[1:04:19] shows up

[1:04:20] that's

[1:04:20] right

[1:04:20] Deathstroke

[1:04:21] the Terminator

[1:04:22] the coolest

[1:04:23] guy who has

[1:04:24] two cool

[1:04:24] names

[1:04:24] mushed

[1:04:25] together

[1:04:25] he shows

[1:04:27] up

[1:04:27] that's

[1:04:27] right

[1:04:27] Joe

[1:04:28] Mancinello

[1:04:28] he's only

[1:04:28] got one

[1:04:29] eye

[1:04:29] but he's

[1:04:29] got probably

[1:04:30] two swords

[1:04:31] maybe three

[1:04:32] I don't

[1:04:32] see them

[1:04:33] all

[1:04:33] and they're

[1:04:34] just hanging

[1:04:34] out on

[1:04:35] his yacht

[1:04:35] and Lex

[1:04:36] Luthor

[1:04:37] very twitchy

[1:04:38] played by

[1:04:38] Jesse Eisenberg

[1:04:39] is like

[1:04:41] hey I'm

[1:04:41] gonna make

[1:04:41] it worth

[1:04:42] your while

[1:04:42] guess what

[1:04:43] Batman

[1:04:43] is this guy

[1:04:45] and you're

[1:04:45] like no

[1:04:45] shit

[1:04:46] he's been

[1:04:46] like super

[1:04:47] casual

[1:04:48] with that

[1:04:48] lately

[1:04:48] he tells

[1:04:50] everybody

[1:04:51] who he is

[1:04:51] yeah he

[1:04:52] doesn't give

[1:04:52] a shit

[1:04:52] anymore

[1:04:53] he's old

[1:04:53] and Deathstroke

[1:04:55] is like

[1:04:55] I guess I

[1:04:56] will toast

[1:04:57] to that

[1:04:57] and you're

[1:04:57] like really

[1:04:58] for real

Elliott Kalan

[1:04:58] I want to

[1:04:59] I want to

[1:05:00] ask a question

[1:05:00] does doesn't

[1:05:01] do I do

[1:05:02] also agree

[1:05:02] with me

[1:05:03] and maybe

[1:05:03] this is

[1:05:03] me being

[1:05:03] too nitpicky

[1:05:04] that Deathstroke's

[1:05:06] like futuristic

[1:05:07] eyepatch looks

[1:05:08] dumber than if he

[1:05:09] was just wearing

[1:05:09] a cheapo costume

[1:05:10] eyepatch that

[1:05:11] you would buy

[1:05:11] at like a

[1:05:12] Halloween store

Stuart Wellington

[1:05:13] yeah is that

[1:05:14] is that like a

[1:05:14] tactical eyepatch

[1:05:15] is that the

[1:05:16] kind of eyepatch

[1:05:16] they sell

[1:05:17] like dads

[1:05:18] who don't

[1:05:18] want to wear

[1:05:19] a normal

[1:05:19] baby Bjorn

[1:05:20] they want to

[1:05:20] wear one

[1:05:20] with like a

[1:05:21] fuckload of

[1:05:21] pouches

Elliott Kalan

[1:05:22] yeah well

[1:05:24] that's Rob

[1:05:24] Liefeld's

[1:05:25] baby Bjorn

[1:05:25] has all those

[1:05:25] pouches on it

[1:05:26] yeah

[1:05:26] I'm gonna

[1:05:27] look it up

[1:05:28] the tactical

[1:05:30] eyepatch

[1:05:30] yeah

[1:05:31] so

[1:05:31] but guys

[1:05:32] we're about

[1:05:33] to go into

[1:05:33] the epilogue

[1:05:34] that is actually

[1:05:34] a prologue

[1:05:35] for the next

Dan McCoy

[1:05:36] series

[1:05:36] you are correct

[1:05:37] though this

[1:05:38] looks like he

[1:05:38] has some

[1:05:39] electrical tape

[1:05:40] that he just

Stuart Wellington

[1:05:40] went around

[1:05:42] his head

[1:05:42] with

[1:05:43] yeah so

[1:05:44] yeah so

[1:05:44] this is the

[1:05:45] big I guess

[1:05:46] big additional

[1:05:47] scene because

[1:05:48] I feel like

[1:05:49] the other one

[1:05:49] was like a

[1:05:49] post-credit

[1:05:50] scene but

[1:05:51] this this

[1:05:51] scene is

[1:05:53] is having

[1:05:54] one of his

[1:05:54] nightmares

[1:05:55] and this is a

[1:05:56] future nightmare

[1:05:57] where he knows

[1:05:58] exactly what

[1:05:58] he predicts

[1:05:59] the future

[1:06:00] and this is

[1:06:01] set in another

[1:06:01] post-apocalyptic

[1:06:02] hellscape

[1:06:03] covered in

[1:06:03] parademons

[1:06:04] and this is

[1:06:04] canon

Elliott Kalan

[1:06:04] it's well

[1:06:05] known in all

[1:06:06] of the different

[1:06:06] versions of the

[1:06:06] Batman in all

[1:06:07] media that he

[1:06:08] has the power

[1:06:08] of premonition

[1:06:09] and is a seer

[1:06:10] who has visions

[1:06:11] of the future

[1:06:12] yeah yeah

[1:06:13] if you remember

[1:06:14] in Batman

[1:06:15] such a Pisces

[1:06:16] right

[1:06:16] Adam West

[1:06:17] Batman was

[1:06:18] constantly going

[1:06:18] into trances

[1:06:19] and having

[1:06:19] visions of

[1:06:20] horrible futures

[1:06:21] Batman the

[1:06:22] animated series

[1:06:22] it was very

[1:06:23] common

[1:06:23] come Robin

[1:06:24] sit at the

[1:06:25] crystal ball

[1:06:25] with me

[1:06:26] Robin I've

[1:06:28] got a

[1:06:29] scrying glass

[1:06:30] we must cast

[1:06:32] the runes

[1:06:33] Harvey Dent

[1:06:34] can we trust

[1:06:34] him forget

[1:06:35] I asked that

[1:06:35] I just saw

[1:06:36] 20 years

[1:06:36] in the future

[1:06:37] we can

[1:06:37] he turns

[1:06:38] into

[1:06:38] two-faced

[1:06:38] so

[1:06:41] I didn't know

[1:06:42] you had second

[1:06:43] sight Batman

[1:06:44] why didn't you

[1:06:45] use that to

[1:06:45] save your parents

[1:06:46] hey man I'm a

[1:06:47] kid get off my

[1:06:48] I was a kid

[1:06:48] then get off my

[1:06:49] back

[1:06:49] so this

[1:06:49] you didn't have

Dan McCoy

[1:06:50] enough second

[1:06:51] sight to not

[1:06:52] walk down

[1:06:52] crime alley

Stuart Wellington

[1:06:54] I was too

[1:06:55] high on

[1:06:56] Zorro movies

[1:06:56] I didn't know

[1:06:57] what I was

[1:06:57] doing

[1:06:57] so the

[1:07:00] Batman is

[1:07:01] hanging out

[1:07:01] in a

[1:07:03] future desert

[1:07:04] type place

[1:07:05] of course he

[1:07:06] is still

[1:07:07] dressed up as

[1:07:08] Batman but

[1:07:08] he's wearing a

[1:07:09] coat and he

[1:07:09] has goggles

[1:07:10] which is

[1:07:10] kind of cool

[1:07:11] he's now

[1:07:13] steampunk

[1:07:13] Batman

[1:07:13] and he's

[1:07:15] carrying like

[1:07:15] an assault

[1:07:16] rifle which I'm

[1:07:17] like okay I

[1:07:17] guess at this

[1:07:18] point he doesn't

[1:07:18] care like I

[1:07:19] should just give

[1:07:20] up in this

[1:07:20] argument

Elliott Kalan

[1:07:21] I'm just a

[1:07:22] killer now

[1:07:22] you know the

[1:07:25] world because the

[1:07:26] air is tinged

[1:07:27] yellow as if

[1:07:27] they are living

[1:07:28] in a tank of

[1:07:29] urine which

[1:07:30] ironically makes

[1:07:30] it the most

[1:07:31] colorful scene

[1:07:32] in the entire

[1:07:33] movie

Stuart Wellington

[1:07:33] yeah it's got

[1:07:35] the the ochre

[1:07:35] tint that any

[1:07:36] American movie

[1:07:37] that is set in

[1:07:38] Mexico uses

[1:07:39] yeah

[1:07:40] which is

[1:07:41] fucked up

[1:07:42] true

[1:07:42] so the

[1:07:45] they're hanging

[1:07:46] out on a

[1:07:47] they're hanging

[1:07:47] out on like a

[1:07:48] ruined highway

[1:07:49] that we get a

[1:07:51] version of

[1:07:52] Batman we have

[1:07:53] Mira from

[1:07:54] Atlantis who is

[1:07:55] mourning the death

[1:07:56] of Jason Momoa

[1:07:57] which I get it

[1:07:58] he's great

[1:07:59] well of Aquaman

[1:08:01] yeah

[1:08:01] we also have

[1:08:02] not the actor

[1:08:03] Jason Momoa

[1:08:03] that would be

[1:08:04] weird they can't

[1:08:05] exist in the same

[1:08:06] universe

[1:08:07] there's Slade

[1:08:10] Wilson is there

[1:08:10] with a mohawk

[1:08:11] and you're like I

[1:08:12] just saw you

[1:08:12] without a mohawk

[1:08:13] I guess time's

[1:08:14] fast

[1:08:14] who else do we

[1:08:16] have Cyborg

[1:08:17] Cyborg

[1:08:18] we have the

[1:08:18] Flash in like a

[1:08:19] weird like metal

[1:08:21] suit

Elliott Kalan

[1:08:21] and it's not clear

[1:08:23] at first that the

[1:08:24] Flash is with

[1:08:24] them and then you

[1:08:25] get a close-up of

[1:08:25] him later in the

[1:08:26] scene out of

[1:08:27] nowhere and I was

[1:08:27] like oh I guess

[1:08:28] the Flash is with

[1:08:28] them

[1:08:28] yeah

[1:08:28] is that

[1:08:29] they didn't want

[1:08:29] to introduce

[1:08:30] Johnny Quick or

[1:08:31] something

[1:08:31] is that metal

Stuart Wellington

[1:08:32] suit part of the

[1:08:33] Flash background

[1:08:34] that I don't know

[1:08:35] is that like a

[1:08:36] comic deep hit

[1:08:37] I think it's just

[1:08:37] more general

[1:08:39] stuff

[1:08:40] but the most

[1:08:41] important character

[1:08:42] the most important

[1:08:44] characters right

[1:08:45] there that's right

[1:08:46] Academy Award winner

[1:08:47] Jared Leto as

[1:08:48] the Joker

[1:08:50] Mr. Joker

[1:08:51] he somehow managed

[1:08:53] to get his

[1:08:54] tattoos scrubbed

[1:08:55] from his body

[1:08:56] that was part of

Elliott Kalan

[1:08:58] part of his

[1:08:58] reform program I

[1:08:59] guess was the

[1:09:00] tattoo removal

[1:09:01] now according to

[1:09:01] the internet

[1:09:02] greatest Batman

[1:09:03] Joker scene in

[1:09:04] any media

[1:09:05] do you guys agree

[1:09:07] with that assessment

[1:09:07] because I'll

[1:09:08] after you tell

[1:09:09] yours I'll tell

[1:09:09] you how I feel

[1:09:10] about it

Dan McCoy

[1:09:10] how they're

[1:09:11] reacting to it

[1:09:12] this is just a

[1:09:15] I mean this is

[1:09:16] just like an

[1:09:16] unpleasant scene

[1:09:17] and it's

[1:09:18] unnecessary

[1:09:19] because all

[1:09:20] of this is

[1:09:20] setting up

[1:09:21] sequels that

[1:09:21] will not

[1:09:22] happen in

[1:09:22] the form that

[1:09:23] they originally

[1:09:23] were planned

[1:09:24] so like if

[1:09:26] anything should

[1:09:27] not be in

[1:09:27] this movie

[1:09:28] it's this

[1:09:29] stuff but

Elliott Kalan

[1:09:29] yes and I

[1:09:30] would also go

[1:09:30] as far as to

[1:09:31] say that

[1:09:32] if they had

[1:09:33] changed the

[1:09:34] name of the

[1:09:35] character

[1:09:35] so that instead

[1:09:36] of addressing

[1:09:37] Jared Leto as

[1:09:38] Joker they had

[1:09:38] addressed him as

[1:09:39] Jim Carrey

[1:09:40] I would have

[1:09:40] been like

[1:09:41] yeah that's

[1:09:42] who he is

[1:09:43] he's just

[1:09:43] doing a bad

[1:09:43] impression of

[1:09:44] like and I

[1:09:45] kind of like

[1:09:46] this post

[1:09:46] apocalyptic world

[1:09:47] where the Joker

[1:09:47] has died and

[1:09:48] has taken his

[1:09:49] place

[1:09:49] he played him

[1:09:52] once why not

[1:09:52] play him in

[1:09:53] real life you

[1:09:53] know

Dan McCoy

[1:09:53] like the

[1:09:54] Riddler

[1:09:55] come on

[1:09:56] oh that's

[1:09:56] right

Elliott Kalan

[1:09:58] the Riddler

[1:09:59] is just

[1:09:59] it's just

[1:10:00] cut rate

[1:10:01] Joker

[1:10:01] you know

[1:10:01] definitely

[1:10:02] you're right

[1:10:03] I'm sorry

[1:10:03] I can't

[1:10:04] believe I got

[1:10:04] that wrong

[1:10:05] it was the

[1:10:05] Riddler

[1:10:05] it seems like

[1:10:07] a real waste

[1:10:07] that he didn't

[1:10:08] play the Joker

[1:10:08] but he kind

[1:10:09] of is since

[1:10:09] Jared Leto

[1:10:10] is so clearly

[1:10:10] channeling him

[1:10:11] yeah so it's

Stuart Wellington

[1:10:12] and it's a scene

[1:10:13] where like the

[1:10:13] Joker's talking

[1:10:14] shit they seem

[1:10:15] to be unlikely

[1:10:16] allies even

[1:10:16] though the

[1:10:17] Joker is wearing

[1:10:18] a bandolier

[1:10:19] of like police

[1:10:20] badges I'm

[1:10:21] assuming from

[1:10:21] police people

[1:10:22] he's killed

[1:10:23] and uh

[1:10:25] the yeah

[1:10:26] and they like

[1:10:27] they have the

[1:10:28] verbal sparring

[1:10:29] of talking about

[1:10:30] other characters

[1:10:31] that are dead

[1:10:32] and now Joker

Elliott Kalan

[1:10:34] says that Batman

[1:10:35] caused all this

[1:10:36] by letting her

[1:10:37] die and of

[1:10:38] course the her

[1:10:38] we have to

[1:10:39] assume is Lois

[1:10:40] Lane or maybe

[1:10:41] Lana Lang it

[1:10:42] could be any

[1:10:42] number of female

[1:10:43] characters from

[1:10:43] DC who have

[1:10:44] two L names

[1:10:45] and they also

[1:10:46] mention that

[1:10:46] Harley Quinn

[1:10:46] died and

[1:10:47] there's mention

[1:10:48] of a boy

[1:10:49] wonder

[1:10:49] hmm interesting

[1:10:51] who could that

[1:10:51] be perhaps a

[1:10:52] baby dinosaur

[1:10:53] that was quite

[1:10:54] quite a wonder

[1:10:55] of a boy

[1:10:56] well I guess

[1:10:56] the baby dinosaur

[1:10:57] gender was not

[1:10:58] really was not

[1:10:59] really clear which

[1:10:59] is fine we don't

[1:11:00] need to know it

[1:11:01] you know that's

[1:11:02] that's up to

[1:11:02] them you know

[1:11:03] uh but this

[1:11:04] this whole scene

[1:11:05] it just feels

[1:11:06] like it is a

[1:11:06] like it is in a

[1:11:08] in a movie that

[1:11:08] kind of verges on

[1:11:09] fan fiction at times

[1:11:10] this feels like the

[1:11:10] most fan fictiony

[1:11:12] scene to me

[1:11:13] uh partly

[1:11:14] because it is

[1:11:15] not connected to

[1:11:16] anything else in

[1:11:17] the film so it

[1:11:18] kind of feels like

[1:11:18] they're just like

[1:11:19] let's go crazy let's

[1:11:20] go nuts these

[1:11:20] characters

[1:11:21] and it also does

Stuart Wellington

[1:11:22] that thing where

[1:11:22] like the scene

[1:11:23] ends where like

[1:11:24] Batman's like I'm

[1:11:25] gonna fucking kill

[1:11:26] you and you're like

[1:11:28] I don't care

[1:11:28] like what like you

[1:11:30] don't have to

[1:11:30] impress me movie I

[1:11:32] know you're badass

Elliott Kalan

[1:11:33] it's also it's one

[1:11:34] of the it's the

[1:11:35] same issue I had

[1:11:36] with Harley Quinn

[1:11:37] and Suicide Squad

[1:11:37] where I was like

[1:11:38] what is the

[1:11:40] power that this

[1:11:41] person brings to

[1:11:42] the table not

[1:11:42] that Harley Quinn

[1:11:43] isn't an amazing

[1:11:44] fighter and a great

[1:11:45] gal but that you

[1:11:47] have this team of

[1:11:47] super powered

[1:11:48] individuals and I

[1:11:49] fail to see what

[1:11:50] power the Joker

[1:11:51] brings to it

[1:11:51] because he's the

[1:11:52] kind of guy who's

[1:11:53] like good at

[1:11:53] committing crimes

[1:11:54] but he's not like

[1:11:55] he's good he's not

[1:11:56] good in a fight

[1:11:57] necessarily and

[1:11:58] unless he's got a

[1:12:00] lot of henchmen

[1:12:00] and an unlimited

[1:12:01] budget for stuff

[1:12:03] like he's not

[1:12:03] he's not really

[1:12:04] gonna help you

[1:12:04] that much you

[1:12:05] know

Stuart Wellington

[1:12:05] unless he's got

[1:12:06] a full like

[1:12:06] team building a

[1:12:08] giant Joker

[1:12:09] faced monolith

Elliott Kalan

[1:12:10] oh this is this

[1:12:11] is a oh man if I

[1:12:13] ever get to pitch

[1:12:13] this to DC I

[1:12:14] would love to that

[1:12:14] Joker is basically

[1:12:15] like a Christo

[1:12:17] type artist who

[1:12:17] comes up with big

[1:12:18] ideas and it's up

[1:12:19] to his team to

[1:12:20] execute them but he

[1:12:21] gets all the credit

[1:12:21] for it and he's

[1:12:22] like he's like

[1:12:23] hmm I want to I

[1:12:24] want to blow up

[1:12:25] smiles on Mount

[1:12:26] Rushmore on all

[1:12:27] the presidents make

[1:12:28] this happen team

[1:12:29] and they're like

[1:12:29] all right let's do

[1:12:30] some research into

[1:12:31] what kind of

[1:12:31] explosives will

[1:12:32] make it make the

[1:12:33] right impact without

[1:12:34] blowing up the heads

[1:12:35] of the president

[1:12:35] I guess Joker's

[1:12:36] too busy doing

[1:12:37] interviews on the

[1:12:38] gallery circuit

[1:12:38] you know

Stuart Wellington

[1:12:39] yeah some I

[1:12:40] mean somebody's

[1:12:41] gotta do the

[1:12:41] work you know

Dan McCoy

[1:12:42] yeah like and

[1:12:43] that's why he's

[1:12:44] yeah a bad

[1:12:44] suicide squad

[1:12:46] member or like

[1:12:47] a team member

[1:12:48] or anything

[1:12:48] member like

[1:12:49] because it's

[1:12:49] just like well

[1:12:50] he's very good

[1:12:52] at something but

[1:12:52] that something is

[1:12:53] sort of like just

[1:12:54] spreading chaos and

[1:12:55] looking out for

[1:12:56] himself so like

[1:12:57] that's not you

[1:12:58] know you don't

[1:12:59] want that on a

[1:12:59] on a team that's

[1:13:00] gonna do a thing

Elliott Kalan

[1:13:01] and he's not even

[1:13:02] there as like the

[1:13:03] funny morale builder

[1:13:04] because as we've

[1:13:05] seen over the

[1:13:06] past several

[1:13:07] Batman related

[1:13:07] movies the Joker

[1:13:08] stopped being funny

[1:13:09] at a certain point

[1:13:10] like he stopped

[1:13:11] being good at

[1:13:12] telling jokes and

[1:13:13] so it's not even

[1:13:14] like you'd be like

[1:13:14] well he's crazy

[1:13:16] he doesn't add much

[1:13:17] in a fight and he

[1:13:18] might murder all of

[1:13:19] us but you know

[1:13:19] what sometimes you

[1:13:21] just gotta laugh and

[1:13:22] blow off steam

[1:13:22] you know

Stuart Wellington

[1:13:23] so you should

[1:13:25] you're suggesting

[1:13:26] they just change

[1:13:26] his name to like

[1:13:27] twisted guy or

[1:13:28] something

[1:13:29] yeah yeah damaged

Elliott Kalan

[1:13:30] that's his name

[1:13:31] is just like his

[1:13:32] tattoo says

[1:13:33] I mean before it

[1:13:34] got scrubbed off by

[1:13:35] I guess the sand

[1:13:36] that was blowing

[1:13:37] everywhere

[1:13:37] now he's essentially

[1:13:40] he's essentially just

[1:13:41] hot topic the man

[1:13:42] you know that's

[1:13:43] that's basically what

[1:13:43] he is

Stuart Wellington

[1:13:44] so after that we

[1:13:45] have Bruce Wayne

[1:13:47] wakes up from this

[1:13:48] horrible premonition

[1:13:49] nightmare

[1:13:50] nightmare

[1:13:50] he's in his

[1:13:51] beautiful lakeside

[1:13:52] home

[1:13:53] when

[1:13:54] I wonder I wish

Elliott Kalan

[1:13:55] I wish he had

[1:13:56] looked at the camera

[1:13:56] and said that's it

[1:13:58] no more hoagies

[1:13:59] for dinner

[1:14:00] and that was the

[1:14:00] end of the movie

Stuart Wellington

[1:14:01] great right

[1:14:01] because hoagies are

[1:14:03] the regional food

[1:14:04] of Gotham City

[1:14:05] maybe they call

[1:14:07] grinders there

[1:14:08] I've never been

[1:14:08] there

[1:14:09] yeah yeah

[1:14:09] and he goes out

[1:14:12] on his little deck

[1:14:13] a figure is flying

[1:14:14] down and you're

[1:14:15] like oh cool

[1:14:15] he's gonna say

[1:14:16] hi to his buddy

[1:14:16] Superman

[1:14:17] nope this is a

[1:14:18] person he's never

[1:14:18] met before

[1:14:20] it's Martian Manhunter

[1:14:21] maybe he has met

[1:14:23] before we don't

[1:14:24] know

[1:14:24] he reacts as if

Elliott Kalan

[1:14:26] he has not seen

[1:14:26] him and he does

[1:14:27] introduce himself

[1:14:28] at the end of the

[1:14:28] conversation

[1:14:28] so I'm guessing

[1:14:29] they haven't met

Dan McCoy

[1:14:30] I don't think

[1:14:31] that I mean

[1:14:31] Batman you know

[1:14:33] maybe not the best

[1:14:34] tactical move

[1:14:35] when you're in the

[1:14:36] line of work that

[1:14:36] you are to just

[1:14:37] like sort of

[1:14:37] wander out to a

[1:14:39] strange alien who's

[1:14:41] floating down at you

[1:14:42] you know just

[1:14:43] wearing your PJs

[1:14:44] that's because

[1:14:45] you don't have

[1:14:45] powers

[1:14:46] that's he doesn't

Elliott Kalan

[1:14:48] have powers

[1:14:48] although he's

[1:14:49] no no he does

[1:14:50] have the power

[1:14:50] to see the future

[1:14:51] and he knows he

[1:14:51] lived to destroy

[1:14:52] the world

[1:14:53] so Martian Manhunter

[1:14:54] is not gonna

[1:14:55] just put even

[1:14:55] easily Martian Manhunter

[1:14:56] could just push him

[1:14:57] off that deck

[1:14:57] and I mean a

[1:14:58] regular person

[1:14:59] could do that

Stuart Wellington

[1:14:59] oh wow

[1:15:00] yeah so Martian

[1:15:03] Manhunter shows up

[1:15:04] they have like a

[1:15:05] cool little chat

[1:15:05] and then Martian

[1:15:07] Manhunter flies off

[1:15:08] and music swells

[1:15:09] end of movie

[1:15:10] after after saying

Elliott Kalan

[1:15:12] my favorite line

[1:15:13] in the movie

[1:15:14] what's that

[1:15:14] he goes what's

[1:15:15] your name

[1:15:15] and he goes

[1:15:15] some have called

[1:15:17] I've gone by many

[1:15:17] names

[1:15:18] some have called

[1:15:19] me Martian Manhunter

[1:15:21] and I was like

[1:15:22] impossible

[1:15:23] that is an impossible

[1:15:24] name to say

[1:15:24] seriously in that way

Stuart Wellington

[1:15:25] because at least

Elliott Kalan

[1:15:28] and what gets me

[1:15:29] what gets me is

[1:15:30] is the Martian part

[1:15:32] of it

[1:15:32] so you're saying Bruce

Stuart Wellington

[1:15:32] Wayne should have

[1:15:33] been like bullshit

Elliott Kalan

[1:15:34] I call shenanigans

[1:15:36] buddy

[1:15:37] I call nobody

[1:15:38] either nobody calls you

[1:15:40] that or they call you

[1:15:40] that as a joke

[1:15:41] if he said

[1:15:42] they call me

[1:15:43] the Manhunter

[1:15:44] and Bruce Wayne

[1:15:45] was like

[1:15:45] alright some kind

[1:15:46] of Martian Manhunter

[1:15:47] like the fact

[1:15:48] that he owns

[1:15:48] Martian as the name

[1:15:50] that he introduces

[1:15:50] people with

[1:15:51] seems silly to me

[1:15:52] but

Dan McCoy

[1:15:53] it's also like

[1:15:54] when I go

[1:15:55] to another country

[1:15:57] and I'm like

[1:15:57] hello I'm American Dan

[1:15:59] American Dan

[1:16:00] you're hilarious

[1:16:01] I'm like no

[1:16:02] thanks

[1:16:04] but I am not

[1:16:05] that popular

[1:16:05] Seth MacFarlane show

Elliott Kalan

[1:16:06] yeah

[1:16:07] it's the

[1:16:08] and also we haven't

[1:16:09] seen him hunt

[1:16:10] any men

[1:16:11] and we don't

[1:16:12] this is the first

[1:16:12] we learn he's from

[1:16:13] Mars to be honest

[1:16:14] like he could be

[1:16:15] just a human

[1:16:15] who has superpowers

[1:16:16] so it's almost like

[1:16:18] he should have been like

[1:16:19] some call me

[1:16:20] Martian mom impersonator

[1:16:22] and then flew off

[1:16:23] into space

[1:16:23] because that's what

[1:16:24] we've seen him do

[1:16:25] it's true

Stuart Wellington

[1:16:25] we would all buy it

[1:16:26] so are you saying

[1:16:27] that like

[1:16:28] it's kind of like

[1:16:32] flies off into space

[1:16:33] oh wow

[1:16:33] oh watch out

[1:16:35] so do you think

[1:16:36] he's

[1:16:36] do you think

[1:16:37] he's like

[1:16:37] approaching this

[1:16:38] where he's like

[1:16:39] time to reinvent

[1:16:40] yourself

[1:16:40] John Jones

[1:16:41] this is like

[1:16:42] the first day

[1:16:43] of camp

[1:16:43] I gotta give myself

[1:16:45] a cool ass nickname

[1:16:46] and Bruce Wayne's like

[1:16:47] Laser Wolf was right there

[1:16:49] why did you call yourself

Elliott Kalan

[1:16:52] should have said

[1:16:53] the idea that

[1:16:54] that Martian Manhunter

[1:16:56] beforehand is

[1:16:57] psyching himself up

[1:16:57] in the mirror

[1:16:58] come on

[1:16:59] you gotta show him

[1:16:59] you're just as good

[1:17:00] as them

[1:17:00] you deserve to be

[1:17:01] on their team

[1:17:01] you can do this

[1:17:02] and you're gonna

[1:17:03] give him their cool name

[1:17:03] you're gonna say

[1:17:05] what are they gonna

[1:17:07] call me

[1:17:07] I'll think of it

[1:17:09] on the flight over

[1:17:09] I'll think of it

Stuart Wellington

[1:17:10] and if Bruce Wayne

[1:17:11] presses me on

[1:17:12] what I've accomplished

[1:17:13] I can tell them

[1:17:14] I convinced

[1:17:14] Lois Lane

[1:17:15] to get back

[1:17:16] into journalism

[1:17:16] I think

Elliott Kalan

[1:17:21] it also

[1:17:22] it points to

[1:17:23] a

[1:17:24] I would say

[1:17:25] a shallow bench

[1:17:26] in some ways

[1:17:27] of the DC heroes

[1:17:28] that they're already

[1:17:29] I mean they've done

[1:17:30] a bunch of movies already

[1:17:30] but that they're

[1:17:31] at Martian Manhunter

[1:17:32] but they're still

[1:17:32] treating him as if

[1:17:33] the audience at home

[1:17:35] after they've seen

[1:17:37] Superman, Batman, Flash

[1:17:38] one woman

[1:17:39] like superheroes

[1:17:40] the average American

[1:17:41] I'm sure is aware

[1:17:42] of the name at least

[1:17:43] that at Martian Manhunter

[1:17:44] they're gonna be like

[1:17:45] yeah

Dan McCoy

[1:17:46] okay

[1:17:49] I think I was like

[1:17:50] 30 years old

[1:17:50] before I ever heard

[1:17:51] the words

[1:17:53] put together

[1:17:54] because he's a goofy

[1:17:55] character

[1:17:55] certainly strung together

Elliott Kalan

[1:17:56] he has all the powers

[1:17:58] of Superman

[1:17:58] plus shape shifting

[1:18:00] plus

[1:18:00] telepathy

[1:18:02] but he has a big weakness

[1:18:03] fire

[1:18:04] okay

[1:18:05] that's my weakness too

[1:18:06] dude

[1:18:06] like that's not

[1:18:07] that crazy a weakness

[1:18:08] silver bullets

Stuart Wellington

[1:18:09] what about

[1:18:11] is Metamorpho

[1:18:12] a DC character

Elliott Kalan

[1:18:13] I would have loved

[1:18:15] if it was Metamorpho

[1:18:15] but he's goofy

[1:18:16] he's goofy

[1:18:18] and he looks insane

[1:18:19] so there's no way

Stuart Wellington

[1:18:19] what about Deadman

[1:18:20] is Deadman a DC character

Elliott Kalan

[1:18:22] Deadman is a DC character

[1:18:23] Boston Brand

[1:18:24] yep

[1:18:24] he's just a floating corpse

[1:18:25] that can

[1:18:26] sometimes possess

[1:18:28] people's bodies

[1:18:28] all great options

[1:18:29] Detective Chimp

[1:18:31] bring him in

[1:18:32] why not

[1:18:33] the Metal Men

[1:18:33] bring all the Metal Men

[1:18:36] in yeah

[1:18:36] and bring in

[1:18:37] the Creeper

[1:18:38] why not

[1:18:38] but it's

[1:18:39] I think

[1:18:40] the Heckler

[1:18:41] he's funny

[1:18:41] yeah why not

[1:18:42] but I think

[1:18:43] but I guess

[1:18:45] maybe I am

[1:18:46] being hypocritical

[1:18:47] because at the end

[1:18:48] of the first

[1:18:48] Avengers movie

[1:18:49] I was super psyched

[1:18:50] to see Thanos

[1:18:51] and I had to know

[1:18:52] that most of the audience

[1:18:53] would not know

[1:18:53] who Thanos was

[1:18:54] so maybe there is

[1:18:55] somebody out there

[1:18:56] who just loves

[1:18:57] never thought

[1:18:58] they'd see

[1:18:59] in a live action movie

[1:19:00] and was just super psyched

[1:19:01] let alone saying

[1:19:01] his own name

[1:19:03] saying his own name

[1:19:04] as if it wasn't

[1:19:05] a goofy ass name

[1:19:06] that could only

[1:19:07] have come out

[1:19:08] of the 1960s

Stuart Wellington

[1:19:09] now imagine

[1:19:11] the end of Avengers

[1:19:11] when Thanos

[1:19:12] turns his face

[1:19:13] at the camera

[1:19:14] I'm Thanos

[1:19:15] okay that would

[1:19:18] have been stupid

[1:19:19] that would have been

[1:19:19] really stupid

Elliott Kalan

[1:19:20] I think it's also

[1:19:22] the some call me

[1:19:23] because you expect

[1:19:24] something pretty legendary

[1:19:25] and badass

[1:19:26] off of some call me

[1:19:27] but if he just said

[1:19:28] I'm the Martian Manhunter

[1:19:30] and flown off

[1:19:31] it wouldn't have been

[1:19:31] as silly as

[1:19:32] some have called me

[1:19:33] have called me

[1:19:35] and it's like

[1:19:36] did your friends

[1:19:36] call you that?

[1:19:37] it's a weird thing

[1:19:38] to call somebody

[1:19:38] okay guys

Dan McCoy

[1:19:40] well let's do

[1:19:41] final judgments

[1:19:41] whether this is

[1:19:42] a good bad movie

[1:19:43] a bad bad movie

[1:19:44] a movie you kind of like

[1:19:46] I actually have

[1:19:47] a lot of thoughts

[1:19:48] so I'm going to

[1:19:48] go fast

[1:19:49] try and go fast here

[1:19:51] I apologize

[1:19:52] that I took up

[1:19:53] so much time

[1:19:53] on Martian Manhunter

[1:19:54] and Fiddler on the Roof

[1:19:55] look this movie

[1:19:57] is fine

[1:19:58] it's fine

[1:19:59] you know it's better

[1:20:00] than the other one

[1:20:00] which was not a high

[1:20:01] bar to clear

[1:20:02] but sure

[1:20:03] and like I do think

[1:20:05] that it's kind of strange

[1:20:06] like I'm not

[1:20:07] necessarily one

[1:20:08] who subscribes

[1:20:10] so much to the view

[1:20:11] of like

[1:20:12] it is

[1:20:12] it is inherently

[1:20:15] bad that this was

[1:20:16] a cut that was made

[1:20:18] because like

[1:20:18] because it's going to

[1:20:21] like encourage

[1:20:21] bad behavior

[1:20:22] bad behavior

[1:20:24] is going to continue

[1:20:25] I'm not going to

[1:20:26] like that bad behavior

[1:20:27] but I don't necessarily

[1:20:28] think that this is like

[1:20:29] a repeatable

[1:20:31] like lesson

[1:20:32] in that way

[1:20:33] where it's like

[1:20:34] okay

Elliott Kalan

[1:20:34] sounds like somebody

[1:20:35] who doesn't want to

[1:20:36] release the gun cut

[1:20:37] well no it's just like

[1:20:38] okay

[1:20:38] the Ayers cut

[1:20:40] that's what it is

Dan McCoy

[1:20:41] like DC had

[1:20:43] all like

[1:20:44] the companies

[1:20:45] the production companies

[1:20:46] like they had

[1:20:47] all this stuff

[1:20:48] already

[1:20:48] like

[1:20:49] it was mostly

[1:20:50] existing footage

[1:20:51] and so for like

[1:20:53] a little bit

[1:20:54] of a small investment

[1:20:55] they get to double dip

[1:20:56] like they get to

[1:20:57] release it right now

[1:20:59] during a pandemic

[1:21:00] where like

[1:21:01] it's going to make

[1:21:02] this huge splash

[1:21:03] like I don't think

[1:21:03] this is necessarily

[1:21:04] like the repeatable

[1:21:06] scenario that's going

[1:21:07] to make us like

[1:21:07] scared about

[1:21:08] idiots being

[1:21:10] bullying on the

[1:21:12] internet

[1:21:12] I mean

[1:21:13] and on top of that

[1:21:14] like you know

[1:21:15] if this was like

[1:21:16] a better

[1:21:16] more respected

[1:21:18] director

[1:21:19] like if this was

[1:21:19] like us being

[1:21:20] like people

[1:21:22] like on Twitter

[1:21:22] being like

[1:21:23] oh release

[1:21:24] the uh

[1:21:25] the original

[1:21:28] Robert Altman cut

[1:21:29] that you butchered

[1:21:30] I was going to say

[1:21:30] Altman 2

[1:21:31] yeah like I mean

Stuart Wellington

[1:21:33] the Altman Justice League

[1:21:34] cut

Elliott Kalan

[1:21:34] that would have been

[1:21:36] a very different movie

[1:21:37] Robert Altman's

[1:21:38] Justice League

[1:21:39] the difference is

[1:21:40] much worse sound recording

Dan McCoy

[1:21:41] the difference is

[1:21:42] like don't be a dick

[1:21:43] don't be like

[1:21:44] an asshole about it

[1:21:46] don't like want

[1:21:47] these things for like

[1:21:48] shitty reasons

[1:21:49] but like inherently

[1:21:50] like wanting this cut

[1:21:51] is not necessarily

[1:21:52] bad

[1:21:53] it feels a little weird

Stuart Wellington

[1:21:54] because we kind of

[1:21:55] have a platform

[1:21:56] on the internet

[1:21:56] and we are

[1:21:58] occasionally assholes

[1:22:00] I guess

[1:22:01] I don't think so

[1:22:01] but like

[1:22:03] uh

[1:22:03] and I feel

[1:22:04] it just feels weird

[1:22:06] to like complain

[1:22:07] to the movie people

[1:22:09] to like give you

Elliott Kalan

[1:22:10] what you want

[1:22:11] oh no no

[1:22:11] I mean complaining

[1:22:12] is one thing

[1:22:14] that's our right

[1:22:15] as Americans

[1:22:15] to complain

[1:22:16] but when

[1:22:16] to get to the point

[1:22:17] of threatening people

[1:22:18] and harassing them

[1:22:19] in their private lives

[1:22:20] that's horrible

[1:22:20] that's what I'm

Dan McCoy

[1:22:21] I'm trying to

[1:22:21] make a division

[1:22:23] between like

[1:22:23] the behavior

[1:22:24] and like

[1:22:25] uh

[1:22:27] you know

[1:22:27] like

[1:22:28] the fact

[1:22:29] just like the fact

[1:22:30] of the movie existing

[1:22:31] I like

[1:22:31] like

[1:22:32] the fact that it exists

[1:22:33] doesn't bother me

[1:22:34] like uh

[1:22:35] necessarily

[1:22:35] from the idea

[1:22:36] of like

[1:22:37] this is where

[1:22:38] it all falls apart

[1:22:39] or something

[1:22:39] uh

[1:22:40] but like

[1:22:41] you're saying

Elliott Kalan

[1:22:42] since people

[1:22:42] already tried

[1:22:43] to violently

[1:22:43] overthrow the government

[1:22:44] maybe Zack Snyder's

[1:22:45] Justice League

[1:22:45] is not the tipping point

[1:22:46] yeah exactly

Dan McCoy

[1:22:47] but um

[1:22:48] I mean as for the movie

[1:22:49] itself

[1:22:50] like

[1:22:50] it's weird

[1:22:51] like I've had people

[1:22:52] on the internet

[1:22:53] like accuse me

[1:22:54] of not liking

[1:22:55] superhero movies

[1:22:56] and like

[1:22:56] if anything

[1:22:57] I'm the least

[1:22:58] tired of them

[1:22:59] of the three of us

[1:23:00] on the show

[1:23:01] like

[1:23:01] this is

[1:23:02] like

[1:23:02] I like

[1:23:03] stuff like this

[1:23:05] and I

[1:23:05] but I think

[1:23:06] that people

[1:23:07] who

[1:23:08] sort of

[1:23:11] it's

[1:23:12] if I point out

[1:23:13] that something's

[1:23:13] a little silly

[1:23:14] comic book fans

[1:23:16] and particularly

[1:23:17] comic book fans

[1:23:18] of the Zack Snyder

[1:23:19] stripe

[1:23:20] might like

[1:23:21] be upset

[1:23:22] that like

[1:23:23] I'm not taking

[1:23:24] the thing

[1:23:25] seriously

[1:23:26] which is not

[1:23:27] like

[1:23:29] it's not

[1:23:30] an issue

[1:23:30] of me like

[1:23:31] taking it

[1:23:32] seriously or not

[1:23:33] I'm just

[1:23:33] recognizing

[1:23:34] that like

[1:23:34] a thing

[1:23:35] is silly

[1:23:35] and you can

[1:23:36] still find value

[1:23:38] in a silly thing

[1:23:38] you can enjoy

[1:23:39] a silly thing

[1:23:40] like

[1:23:41] to like

[1:23:42] have discourse

[1:23:42] over this

[1:23:43] doesn't mean

[1:23:43] that like

[1:23:44] I am

[1:23:45] destroying your

[1:23:46] identity

[1:23:46] as a person

[1:23:47] who likes

[1:23:47] this thing

[1:23:48] like

[1:23:48] you know

[1:23:49] like

[1:23:49] there's silly

[1:23:50] stuff in comic books

[1:23:51] and that's why

[1:23:52] I like comic books

[1:23:53] and if anything

[1:23:54] my problem is

[1:23:55] like

[1:23:56] this isn't

[1:23:57] silly enough

[1:23:57] I would prefer

[1:23:58] a sillier

[1:24:00] more fun movie

[1:24:02] because

[1:24:02] I think

[1:24:03] that Zack

[1:24:03] Snyder's

[1:24:04] one big

[1:24:05] idea

[1:24:06] that he

[1:24:07] like

[1:24:07] keeps trying

[1:24:07] to hammer

[1:24:08] home

[1:24:08] in this

[1:24:08] is like

[1:24:09] oh

[1:24:09] what if

[1:24:10] like

[1:24:10] superheroes

[1:24:11] were lonely

[1:24:12] gods

[1:24:13] and you know

[1:24:13] what

[1:24:14] that's not

[1:24:14] that interesting

[1:24:15] an idea

[1:24:16] because it

[1:24:16] doesn't really

[1:24:17] shed any

[1:24:17] life light

[1:24:18] on like

[1:24:19] humanity

[1:24:19] like it's

[1:24:21] not like

[1:24:21] I like

[1:24:21] look at

[1:24:21] that

[1:24:22] I'm like

[1:24:22] oh

[1:24:22] yeah

[1:24:22] now I

[1:24:23] understand

[1:24:24] something

[1:24:24] about the

[1:24:25] world

[1:24:25] that I

[1:24:25] live in

[1:24:26] like

[1:24:26] it

[1:24:26] doesn't

[1:24:27] do

[1:24:27] anything

[1:24:28] beyond

[1:24:29] the level

[1:24:29] of like

[1:24:30] spectacle

[1:24:31] that being

[1:24:32] said

[1:24:33] I kind

[1:24:34] of liked

[1:24:35] it

[1:24:35] Elliot

[1:24:36] what do

[1:24:36] you have

[1:24:37] to say

Elliott Kalan

[1:24:37] well I

[1:24:39] I'm of

[1:24:39] two minds

[1:24:40] on it

[1:24:41] three minds

[1:24:42] I'll give you

[1:24:42] all three minds

[1:24:43] they're all

[1:24:43] mother boxes

[1:24:44] and they're

[1:24:44] combined in a

[1:24:45] beautiful unity

[1:24:45] that will wipe

[1:24:46] out all life

[1:24:46] on earth

[1:24:47] by the end

[1:24:47] of my

[1:24:48] judgment

[1:24:48] I think

[1:24:49] one

[1:24:50] obviously

[1:24:50] that I

[1:24:51] am

[1:24:51] it's

[1:24:53] when it

[1:24:53] comes down

[1:24:54] to it

[1:24:54] I am

[1:24:54] not bothered

[1:24:55] by the

[1:24:55] idea of

[1:24:56] movies being

[1:24:58] recut

[1:24:58] and money

[1:24:59] being paid

[1:24:59] to people

[1:25:00] to do

[1:25:00] the work

[1:25:00] because

[1:25:01] people need

[1:25:01] work

[1:25:01] these are

[1:25:02] tough times

[1:25:02] like

[1:25:03] give them

[1:25:03] work

[1:25:03] I think

[1:25:04] also that

[1:25:05] the way

[1:25:05] it was

[1:25:05] lobbied

[1:25:07] was often

[1:25:08] horrifying

[1:25:08] and disgusting

[1:25:09] and there

[1:25:10] is no movie

[1:25:11] in the history

[1:25:12] of the world

[1:25:12] that is worth

[1:25:14] harassing

[1:25:16] people

[1:25:16] well that too

[1:25:18] but that's

[1:25:19] worth harassing

[1:25:20] us with

[1:25:20] three episodes

[1:25:21] that's worth

[1:25:21] harassing people

[1:25:21] over

[1:25:22] unless maybe

[1:25:22] it's that movie

[1:25:23] from that one

[1:25:24] episode of

[1:25:24] masters of

[1:25:25] horror that

[1:25:25] was it

[1:25:25] John Carpenter

[1:25:26] who did it

[1:25:26] where it's

[1:25:27] that film

[1:25:28] that drives

[1:25:28] people mad

[1:25:30] maybe that's

[1:25:31] worth harassing

[1:25:32] people for

[1:25:32] like an angel

[1:25:33] getting his

[1:25:33] wings cut off

[1:25:34] which is pretty

[1:25:34] edgy

[1:25:35] and I don't

[1:25:36] mean edgy

[1:25:36] a knife

[1:25:37] that they

[1:25:37] use to

[1:25:37] cut the

[1:25:37] wings off

[1:25:38] so

[1:25:39] separating

[1:25:40] all from

[1:25:41] separating

[1:25:41] looking at

[1:25:42] just as a

[1:25:42] movie

[1:25:42] like you're

[1:25:43] saying

[1:25:43] separating it

[1:25:43] from the

[1:25:44] process

[1:25:44] of its

[1:25:44] creation

[1:25:45] and saying

[1:25:46] also that

[1:25:46] it is money

[1:25:47] they could have

[1:25:48] invested into

[1:25:48] like a new

[1:25:49] movie

[1:25:49] which would

[1:25:50] have been

[1:25:50] more preferable

[1:25:51] to me

[1:25:52] in some way

[1:25:52] this is a movie

[1:25:54] that I'm of two

[1:25:54] minds about

[1:25:54] and I feel like

[1:25:55] I did a

[1:25:56] disservice

[1:25:56] by splitting

[1:25:57] it up

[1:25:58] and watching

[1:25:58] a better

[1:25:59] movie

[1:25:59] straight time

[1:26:00] starring

[1:26:00] Dustin Hoffman

[1:26:00] in the middle

[1:26:01] of it

[1:26:01] because the

[1:26:02] first half

[1:26:03] of it

[1:26:03] I was like

[1:26:04] or the first

[1:26:04] two and a half

[1:26:05] hours

[1:26:05] I was like

[1:26:05] you know

[1:26:06] what

[1:26:06] I'm actually

[1:26:07] liking this

[1:26:07] a little bit

[1:26:08] it's not

[1:26:08] totally to my

[1:26:09] taste

[1:26:09] it's very

[1:26:10] Zack Snydery

[1:26:11] and his

[1:26:11] style

[1:26:12] is not

[1:26:12] my style

[1:26:13] and I

[1:26:14] don't

[1:26:14] I also

[1:26:15] am not

[1:26:15] so into

[1:26:16] non-stop

[1:26:17] mopey

[1:26:18] depressed

[1:26:18] superheroes

[1:26:18] which is

[1:26:19] weird

[1:26:19] coming from

[1:26:20] a Spider-Man

[1:26:20] fan

[1:26:21] the most

[1:26:22] mopey

[1:26:22] depressed

[1:26:23] superhero

[1:26:23] comics

[1:26:23] but at least

[1:26:24] he tells

[1:26:24] jokes

[1:26:24] sometimes

[1:26:25] but the

[1:26:27] farther

[1:26:27] the movie

[1:26:28] got into

[1:26:28] itself

[1:26:29] the more

[1:26:29] it became

[1:26:29] beholden

[1:26:30] to this

[1:26:30] Steppenwolf

[1:26:31] mother box

[1:26:31] plot

[1:26:32] and the

[1:26:32] more it

[1:26:33] just became

[1:26:33] gobbledygook

[1:26:35] and the

[1:26:35] spectacle

[1:26:36] didn't do it

[1:26:36] for me

[1:26:36] because the

[1:26:37] spectacle

[1:26:37] was so

[1:26:38] repetitive

[1:26:38] and so

[1:26:39] just like

[1:26:42] dark

[1:26:42] and how

[1:26:43] many times

[1:26:43] am I going

[1:26:44] to see

[1:26:44] the superheroes

[1:26:45] beating up

[1:26:46] on parademons

[1:26:46] that are no

[1:26:47] threat to them

[1:26:48] and then

[1:26:49] fighting the

[1:26:49] same

[1:26:50] mostly

[1:26:51] personality

[1:26:51] list

[1:26:51] he had

[1:26:52] more

[1:26:52] than he did

[1:26:53] the original cut

[1:26:53] but Steppenwolf

[1:26:54] until

[1:26:55] Superman

[1:26:56] comes in

[1:26:57] and as we

[1:26:57] said before

[1:26:58] just like

[1:26:59] an angry

[1:26:59] fist of

[1:27:00] divine wrath

[1:27:02] with no

[1:27:02] humanity

[1:27:03] behind him

[1:27:04] just beats

[1:27:05] up this guy

[1:27:05] it felt like

[1:27:06] watching the

[1:27:07] second half

[1:27:07] of the movie

[1:27:08] it felt

[1:27:08] like

[1:27:09] which was

[1:27:09] shorter

[1:27:10] felt like

[1:27:10] more of a

[1:27:11] slog

[1:27:11] than the

[1:27:11] first half

[1:27:12] and I

[1:27:12] would have

[1:27:12] really just

[1:27:13] wanted

[1:27:13] more

[1:27:14] humanity

[1:27:16] and more

[1:27:16] color

[1:27:16] from it

[1:27:17] more life

[1:27:18] from it

[1:27:18] and when it

[1:27:19] has those

[1:27:19] flashes of

[1:27:20] life and

[1:27:20] I'm like

[1:27:21] oh yeah

[1:27:21] this is not

[1:27:22] so bad

[1:27:22] but it

[1:27:23] doesn't have

[1:27:24] enough

[1:27:24] to justify

[1:27:24] four hours

[1:27:26] people complained

[1:27:26] about the length

[1:27:27] of like

[1:27:27] the Irishman

[1:27:28] but the Irishman

[1:27:29] is so packed

[1:27:30] full of like

[1:27:30] stuff and moments

[1:27:32] and is so easy

[1:27:33] to look at

[1:27:34] that uh

[1:27:35] the Irishman

[1:27:36] is a movie

Stuart Wellington

[1:27:37] where like

[1:27:37] it both

[1:27:38] it both feels

[1:27:39] too long to me

[1:27:40] but also I don't

[1:27:41] know what I

[1:27:42] would cut

[1:27:42] from it

[1:27:43] not even that

[1:27:44] fucking scene

[1:27:45] where he like

[1:27:45] curb stomps

[1:27:46] that dude

[1:27:47] and he's supposed

[1:27:48] to be a young

[1:27:49] guy but he's

[1:27:49] clearly the

[1:27:50] oldest man

[1:27:50] in the universe

Elliott Kalan

[1:27:51] I mean

[1:27:52] that's what

[1:27:52] I would cut

[1:27:52] as the flashbacks

[1:27:53] to World War II

[1:27:54] where I'm like

[1:27:54] oh they were

[1:27:54] drafting guys

[1:27:55] in their 50s

[1:27:56] to go to

[1:27:56] World War II

[1:27:56] at that point

[1:27:57] yeah

[1:27:57] but I guess

[1:27:59] I'm with you

[1:27:59] though

[1:27:59] I guess he lied

[1:28:00] on the

[1:28:00] enlisted form

[1:28:01] and said he

[1:28:01] was 22

Dan McCoy

[1:28:02] but

[1:28:02] Elliot I

[1:28:03] I did have

[1:28:04] the same

[1:28:04] experience though

[1:28:05] I also watched

[1:28:06] the movie

[1:28:06] in two parts

[1:28:07] just you know

[1:28:08] so it would

[1:28:09] be more fresh

[1:28:10] you know

[1:28:10] each part

[1:28:10] when we were

[1:28:11] recording

[1:28:11] so you wouldn't

[1:28:12] go mad

[1:28:12] like a Lovecraft

[1:28:13] hero

[1:28:13] yeah

[1:28:13] but I also

[1:28:15] found that

[1:28:16] like the first

[1:28:17] half had

[1:28:18] most of the

[1:28:19] stuff that I

[1:28:20] enjoyed in the

[1:28:20] movie

[1:28:21] and then

[1:28:21] as it went

[1:28:22] on

[1:28:23] like yeah

[1:28:23] it just

[1:28:24] it was

[1:28:24] it sort of

[1:28:25] devolved into

[1:28:26] like a bunch

[1:28:26] of like gray

[1:28:27] stuff swirling

[1:28:28] around

Elliott Kalan

[1:28:29] yeah

[1:28:29] but that's also

[1:28:30] a flaw endemic

[1:28:31] to modern

[1:28:31] superhero movies

[1:28:32] the last third

[1:28:33] of almost any

[1:28:33] modern superhero

[1:28:34] movie is

[1:28:34] the least

[1:28:35] interesting

[1:28:36] even in

[1:28:37] Marvel movies

[1:28:37] aside from

[1:28:38] like Endgame

[1:28:39] maybe

[1:28:39] the last third

[1:28:40] is usually

[1:28:40] like we gotta

[1:28:41] shut off this

[1:28:42] blue light

[1:28:43] before things

[1:28:43] come out of

[1:28:44] it you know

[1:28:44] or something

[1:28:45] and so I

[1:28:46] wonder if

[1:28:46] there's a

[1:28:47] that's a flaw

[1:28:48] in the

[1:28:49] current

[1:28:49] interpretation

[1:28:50] of the genre

[1:28:51] that just

[1:28:51] becomes that

[1:28:52] much harder

[1:28:53] to sit

[1:28:54] through when

[1:28:54] it is

[1:28:54] so much

[1:28:55] when the

[1:28:55] last third

[1:28:56] of the movie

[1:28:56] is an hour

[1:28:57] and a half

[1:28:57] long

[1:28:57] yeah

[1:28:57] you know

Stuart Wellington

[1:28:58] which is one

[1:28:59] of the things

[1:28:59] that I liked

[1:29:00] I was just

[1:29:01] thinking about

[1:29:01] uh how

[1:29:02] in Doctor Strange

[1:29:03] the ending

[1:29:04] kind of is like

[1:29:05] shutting off a blue

[1:29:06] light but it

[1:29:06] isn't like a big

[1:29:07] battle it's just

[1:29:08] like I don't

[1:29:08] know fucking

[1:29:09] like it's a

[1:29:10] like a bluffing

[1:29:11] game or something

[1:29:12] again

[1:29:13] no I'm with

[1:29:14] you it uh I

[1:29:15] was surprised at

[1:29:16] how much more I

[1:29:17] liked the first

[1:29:18] half uh because I

[1:29:21] mean when when I

[1:29:23] I'll admit that when

[1:29:25] I sat down to

[1:29:26] watch it I was not

[1:29:27] particularly excited

[1:29:28] to watch a four

[1:29:29] hour Justice League

[1:29:30] cut because I did

[1:29:31] not like the last

[1:29:32] cut and I have not

[1:29:33] liked either the

[1:29:34] previous uh Zack

[1:29:36] Snyder DC movies

[1:29:37] uh but I

[1:29:39] ended up liking

[1:29:40] the first half

[1:29:41] okay I mean

[1:29:43] with my various

[1:29:44] other complaints

[1:29:45] aside like I

[1:29:47] wasn't I wasn't

[1:29:48] really bored uh

[1:29:50] but then the

[1:29:51] second half was

[1:29:52] it was just a

[1:29:53] little bit rough

[1:29:53] uh and it is

[1:29:55] like it is so

[1:29:56] beholden to the

[1:29:56] plot that like

[1:29:58] writing down notes

[1:29:59] for it I didn't

[1:30:00] really like to

[1:30:02] take notes for

[1:30:02] it I could you

[1:30:05] know go 20

[1:30:06] minutes and then

[1:30:06] be like yeah so

[1:30:07] they uh I guess

[1:30:08] they fight this

[1:30:09] guy for a while

[1:30:09] and then like

[1:30:10] Superman's unhappy

[1:30:11] like it's it was

[1:30:12] there just isn't

[1:30:14] that much there

[1:30:15] really isn't that

[1:30:15] much to it and

[1:30:16] it uh and it

[1:30:18] is it's it's not

[1:30:19] it's not a good

[1:30:20] movie I feel like

[1:30:21] if you're if you're

[1:30:22] dying for a

[1:30:23] superhero spectacle

[1:30:23] there's better

[1:30:24] options if this uh

[1:30:27] I yeah it's not

[1:30:28] for me it doesn't

[1:30:29] speak to me bad

[1:30:30] bad is what I

[1:30:31] would say and I

Elliott Kalan

[1:30:32] wonder if I

[1:30:33] wonder if it

[1:30:33] would speak to

[1:30:34] me more if

[1:30:34] these were

[1:30:34] characters that

Stuart Wellington

[1:30:36] I yeah that's

[1:30:37] possible felt more

Elliott Kalan

[1:30:38] of a connection

[1:30:38] to because again

[1:30:38] I'm a Marvel

[1:30:39] zombie it's in

[1:30:40] my blood it's in

[1:30:40] my bones but uh

[1:30:41] at that but then

[1:30:43] it is a uh it's

[1:30:44] an irritating aspect

[1:30:45] of modern popular

[1:30:46] culture right now

[1:30:47] that I feel like I

[1:30:47] have to watch a

[1:30:48] four-hour movie

[1:30:49] about characters

[1:30:50] I don't really feel

[1:30:51] a connection to

[1:30:51] to be to like get

[1:30:53] what's going on

[1:30:54] and unfortunately

[1:30:54] what it makes me

[1:30:55] feel like is it

[1:30:56] makes me feel like a

[1:30:56] comic book reader in

[1:30:57] the 90s where it

[1:30:58] was like I guess I

[1:30:59] gotta buy every book

[1:31:00] that Marvel's coming

[1:31:01] out with this month

[1:31:02] so that I know

[1:31:02] what's going on

[1:31:03] in the Marvel

[1:31:03] universe and can

[1:31:04] talk about it even

[1:31:05] though I don't

[1:31:05] really care that

[1:31:06] much what's going

[1:31:07] on with Excalibur

[1:31:08] right now you know

[1:31:09] or what's what's

[1:31:10] happening with with

[1:31:11] the new warriors

[1:31:12] you know it's we've

[1:31:13] reached the point in

[1:31:14] comic book movies

[1:31:15] where we were with

[1:31:17] comic books 30 years

[1:31:18] ago during the like

[1:31:19] speculator boom

[1:31:20] yeah and as someone

[1:31:21] who came of age

[1:31:22] during that time I'm

[1:31:23] just saying there's

[1:31:25] gonna be a spider

[1:31:25] clone movie guys and

[1:31:26] it's gonna be bad and

[1:31:27] it's gonna be like 20

[1:31:28] hours long so just

[1:31:29] gird your loins for

[1:31:30] it for this endless

[1:31:31] spider look

[1:31:32] clone movie that is

[1:31:33] bound to happen

Dan McCoy

[1:31:34] well okay so it is

[1:31:37] very late here and

[1:31:38] Stuart has a job that

[1:31:40] requires him to stand

[1:31:41] upright during the day

[1:31:43] and for long stretches

[1:31:45] so I'm gonna take

[1:31:47] you do most of your

Stuart Wellington

[1:31:48] job lying down right

Dan McCoy

[1:31:49] well I can in a

[1:31:52] seated position

[1:31:54] oh okay

[1:31:54] only because it's

Elliott Kalan

[1:31:56] only because it's

[1:31:56] Passover right now

[1:31:57] Stuart that's why he

[1:31:58] does his job reclining

[1:31:59] on a pillow

Dan McCoy

[1:31:59] yeah but uh yeah as a

[1:32:02] mercy killing for

[1:32:04] Stuart I'm gonna

[1:32:05] shoot this episode and

[1:32:07] end uh the show

[1:32:09] it's very Superman of

[1:32:10] you

[1:32:11] yeah very Batman of

[1:32:12] you

[1:32:12] um thank you to

[1:32:14] Jordan Cowling for

[1:32:15] uh producing the show

[1:32:16] the best

[1:32:17] you to Maximum Fun uh our

[1:32:19] network uh go to

[1:32:20] MaximumFun.org to find a

[1:32:23] bunch of other great

[1:32:25] podcasts I am not just a

[1:32:27] a podcaster I listen to

[1:32:29] many podcasts and very

[1:32:31] many of them are Maximum

[1:32:33] Fun podcasts um and uh you

[1:32:36] know thanks guys for coming

[1:32:37] on this journey with us

[1:32:39] through two episodes of

[1:32:42] Justice League now we will

[1:32:44] never do it again no

[1:32:46] matter what other cut

[1:32:47] they do of this film

[1:32:49] uh for the Flophouse I've

[1:32:51] been Dan McCoy

[1:32:52] hey I'm Stuart

Stuart Wellington

[1:32:53] Willingdon bye bye

Elliott Kalan

[1:32:54] some have called me

[1:32:57] Martian Elliot

[1:32:58] what

[1:32:59] they didn't really call

[1:33:01] me the Martian part but

[1:33:02] I thought it sounded

[1:33:03] cool

[1:33:03] I expected when you said

Stuart Wellington

[1:33:04] that you were gonna do a

[1:33:05] morph but you didn't you

[1:33:06] just stayed the same

Elliott Kalan

[1:33:07] yeah I don't have that

[1:33:09] power just imagine that

[1:33:10] I'm someone's mom

[1:33:11] okay

[1:33:11] bye

[1:33:14] on this episode we

Dan McCoy

[1:33:22] discuss Zack Snyder's

[1:33:25] Justice League part two

Elliott Kalan

[1:33:27] where we learn the

[1:33:29] valuable morals that

[1:33:30] we're all stronger when

[1:33:31] we work together and

[1:33:33] also you can't cut

[1:33:34] Steppenwolf's head off

[1:33:35] till Superman punches

[1:33:36] him in the face a bunch

[1:33:37] of times

[1:33:37] maximumfun.org

Dan McCoy

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Ep. #339 - Zack Snyder's Justice League TWO: Pt 4 - Epilogue

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