Ep.#460 - Lumina, with Ashlie Atkinson

Stuart Wellington

[0:00] On this episode, we discuss Lumina.

[0:03] Alien.

[0:05] Arrival.

[0:06] E.T.

[0:07] Close encounters of the third kind.

[0:10] Now, Lumina.

[0:14] Right? Did I do it right?

[0:15] Yeah. A lot of gravitas.

Elliott Kalan

[0:17] Yeah, that was great.

[0:18] You really sold the importance of the movie, yeah.

[0:30] Hey, everyone, and welcome to The Flophouse. I'm Dan McCoy.

Stuart Wellington

[0:46] Hey, thanks for welcoming me, Dan. I'm Stuart Wellington.

Elliott Kalan

[0:49] I'm Elliot Kalin, appearing by permission of myself.

Stuart Wellington

[0:51] And we are joined today by a very special guest.

[0:55] This is a close friend of mine, occasional bartending colleague of mine.

[0:59] We have an actor from things like The Gilded Age.

[1:03] And just like that, Black Klansman, Mr. Robot,

[1:07] and, of course, the upcoming The Lost Bus.

[1:11] That's right, Ashley Atkinson. How are you doing, Ashley?

[1:13] Hey, and hello to all my ex-boyfriends

[1:16] who apparently all listen to this fucking podcast.

S3

[1:18] Oh, wow.

[1:19] Ashley, I think you've been nerds.

[1:20] That's our demo, yeah.

[1:22] Definitely, definitely.

[1:23] You dropped my name, I think, on...

[1:25] Name drop, like it's a name to be dropped.

[1:27] You mentioned my name on this podcast, like, a few years ago,

[1:31] I think when Black Klansman came out.

[1:32] Uh-huh.

[1:33] And I heard from so many fucking ex-boyfriends.

Dan McCoy

[1:37] Well, I met you for the first time, like, formally,

[1:41] the other night at karaoke,

[1:43] where you confessed that when I sang

[1:44] She's an Angel by They Might Be Giants,

[1:46] you were singing along up front.

[1:48] So I think that there's a lot of nerdishness to go around.

[1:51] I understand why maybe you attract the sort of people

[1:53] who listen to this podcast.

[1:55] You get what you give, you know?

[1:58] Definitely.

Stuart Wellington

[1:59] Well, thank you so much.

[2:00] I've tried to get Ashley on here,

[2:02] but she has such a busy filming schedule,

[2:04] we finally made it work.

[2:06] Gotta find that bus.

[2:07] And for what a movie.

[2:07] Still lost.

[2:07] What a movie.

S3

[2:08] I'm so thrilled.

[2:10] I had to refrain from making a fart noise

[2:12] when you said that.

[2:13] Just a real...

[2:14] Alex, just add it in.

[2:15] Add it in, Alex.

Elliott Kalan

[2:17] Use your soundboard.

[2:18] Use the soundboard we've bought you for Christmas, Alex.

[2:20] It has all those fart sounds on it.

[2:21] It's all farts.

[2:22] That's all it is, right?

[2:24] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[2:25] The weird thing is,

[2:26] that version was more expensive

[2:27] than the one that had non-fart sounds.

[2:30] Yeah, well, they know what people want.

[2:31] Yeah, yeah.

[2:32] Yeah.

[2:32] They could put it in the factory.

[2:34] Mm-hmm.

[2:34] Farts.

[2:35] So, Lumina.

[2:37] Lumina.

[2:37] Okay, yeah.

[2:37] So today we're watching...

[2:38] This is the smart...

[2:39] Smart.

[2:40] Whoa, man.

[2:41] Hold on real Dan McCoy over here.

[2:42] Wow.

[2:43] The start of Smallvember.

[2:44] That's right.

[2:45] Dan, what's Small...

[2:46] First off, what do we do on this podcast?

Dan McCoy

[2:48] Order of Operations.

[2:50] First principles.

[2:51] This is a podcast where we watch a movie

[2:53] that's a critical or a commercial flop or both,

[2:56] and then we talk about it.

Stuart Wellington

[2:58] And while normally we punch up,

[3:00] we pick the big dogs and we start a fight.

[3:03] This time, no, no, no.

[3:04] At the risk of my career,

Elliott Kalan

[3:06] as I've found a number of times at this point.

[3:08] Yeah, yeah.

Dan McCoy

[3:08] Yeah, yeah.

[3:09] You're like one of the one people I know

[3:11] who has a job right now.

[3:13] I said risk, Dan.

[3:14] I said risk.

Stuart Wellington

[3:15] Not destruction.

[3:17] Yeah, exactly.

[3:17] But if without this podcast,

[3:19] Elliot would have so many jobs, Dan.

[3:21] If anyone out there who hires

[3:22] wants me to roast them,

Elliott Kalan

[3:24] I'm available.

[3:26] I'm the...

[3:27] I would be the king of Hollywood

[3:28] if not for this podcast

[3:29] causing them to slam their doors in my faces.

[3:32] Yeah.

[3:32] I have more than one face.

[3:33] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[3:33] I feel like Dan is opening up doors

[3:36] toward weird kinks

[3:37] when he's like,

[3:37] yeah, what?

[3:38] You can pay me to roast you.

[3:41] And I don't actually mean weird.

[3:42] Whatever you're into is fine

[3:43] as long as it doesn't hurt anybody.

[3:45] I'm a couple months away from that.

[3:46] That's fine.

[3:47] Yeah.

[3:47] Don't kink shame, Stuart.

Elliott Kalan

[3:48] Yeah, I'm not kink shame.

[3:49] I would love the idea

[3:49] if Dan was paid to roast people

[3:51] as a kink for them

[3:52] and he had to put sex worker on his taxes

[3:55] to explain what he does.

Stuart Wellington

[3:56] Why?

[3:57] Why would you love that?

[3:58] I mean, I feel like

[3:59] it's a totally normal profession.

[4:00] I think that's actually been

[4:01] an aspiration for Dan McCoy.

[4:02] So we are, as I said,

[4:05] we are punching down this month.

[4:07] That's right.

[4:08] It is Smallvember.

[4:09] That's where we take a look

[4:10] at some small passion projects,

[4:12] independent films.

[4:13] And we rip them up.

[4:15] Yeah.

[4:15] And we, well,

[4:16] we try and find a bright side

[4:17] and we also try to find

[4:18] those hidden gems.

[4:20] That's true.

[4:20] Those, The Rooms,

[4:22] those, what, Birdemic,

[4:24] what's Slow Bullet

[4:25] is Elliot's favorite movie?

[4:26] Yeah, it's my favorite movie.

Dan McCoy

[4:28] Three movies that we've never done

[4:29] on the podcast, by the way.

[4:30] And also two of which

Elliott Kalan

[4:31] were also famous on their own.

[4:33] You know, we did not discover those.

[4:34] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[4:35] I mean, well, I mean,

[4:37] but we would like to.

[4:38] Those are examples of films

[4:39] that we could elevate

[4:40] to that level.

Elliott Kalan

[4:41] I think maybe we helped

[4:41] to augment the fame

[4:44] of Neil Breen.

[4:45] Let's say that.

[4:46] Maybe we helped to bring

[4:46] Neil Breen to a larger audience.

Stuart Wellington

[4:48] Now, Ashley,

[4:49] do you have much experience

[4:50] with things like Neil Breen

[4:52] or other teeny tiny bad movies

[4:54] that have become cult classics

[4:56] like The Room?

S3

[4:57] Oh, I love The Room.

[4:58] I mean, I watch a lot

[5:00] of teeny tiny movies.

[5:02] I'm also like a little nervous

[5:04] about doing this

[5:05] only because I tend to do

[5:08] a lot of teeny tiny movies

[5:10] and I just know

[5:11] that when I call out somebody

[5:14] on this,

[5:14] I'm going to end up

[5:15] Sure.

[5:16] on a set

[5:17] in like Pittsburgh

[5:18] with them in four years

[5:20] and they're going to be like,

[5:21] ah, yeah.

[5:22] So.

Stuart Wellington

[5:22] I feel like I don't

[5:24] run in those circles,

[5:25] but I feel like for the most part,

[5:26] the people who work in film

[5:29] who listen to our podcast

[5:30] take it in stride

[5:31] and if they don't,

[5:32] then they're probably

[5:33] not the kind of people

[5:34] you'd want to work with.

[5:34] That's fair.

Elliott Kalan

[5:35] I will say I was on an,

[5:36] I don't remember if I told the story

[5:38] on the podcast or not,

[5:38] but I certainly told Dan and Stu,

[5:39] I was on a,

[5:40] I was on an airplane

[5:41] when a,

[5:43] someone recognized me

[5:44] and it turned out

[5:44] it's because they were a producer

[5:45] on one of the movies

[5:46] that we had,

[5:47] we had done.

[5:48] Oh no.

[5:48] But he was very affable about it

[5:50] and very nice about it.

Dan McCoy

[5:52] I also feel like that was a movie,

[5:53] if I'm recalling correctly,

[5:54] one that we,

[5:54] we actually kind of liked.

Elliott Kalan

[5:56] It was one of the movies

[5:57] that Dan admitted made him cry

[5:58] while he was watching it.

[6:00] Brats?

[6:01] Yeah, Brats.

[6:02] Country bears?

Dan McCoy

[6:04] Honestly,

[6:05] I'm a little more scared

[6:05] of this movie

[6:07] because I've heard

[6:07] of some behavior

[6:08] from the director

[6:10] engaging people

[6:13] on the internet

[6:13] about this film.

Elliott Kalan

[6:15] Okay,

[6:16] well that I'm worried about.

[6:17] I'm worried about

[6:18] only because

[6:18] some,

[6:19] I'm only,

[6:20] I'm doing research,

[6:20] I didn't realize

[6:21] when I watched the movie

[6:21] that some big name

[6:23] behind the scenes people

[6:25] or some very accomplished

[6:25] behind the scenes people

[6:26] worked on this movie.

[6:27] But the cinematographer

[6:28] and the editor for this movie

[6:29] are like real people,

[6:30] like real professional people.

[6:32] I mean,

[6:32] they're all real people.

[6:33] No,

[6:34] some of them are,

[6:34] some of them are simulations

[6:36] and holograms.

[6:37] Yeah.

S3

[6:37] They're also litiginous.

[6:39] Did you guys see

Elliott Kalan

[6:40] that there was like

Stuart Wellington

[6:40] a whole ass lawsuit?

[6:42] Oh man,

[6:43] they're going to own

[6:43] the least of the flop house.

Dan McCoy

[6:45] Yeah.

[6:45] I'll get into that briefly

[6:47] when I get,

[6:47] I give some background

[6:48] that I heard from,

Stuart Wellington

[6:50] So I do want to point out

[6:51] that this movie

[6:51] is directed by a guy

[6:53] named Gino McCoy

[6:54] and it looks like

[6:55] most of the producers

[6:55] are his family.

[6:56] Now,

[6:57] I promise not to get mad,

[7:00] but Dan,

[7:01] are you Gino McCoy?

[7:03] Is Dan McCoy

[7:05] and Gino McCoy

[7:06] the same person?

[7:07] Very similar.

[7:07] And were you just

[7:08] tricking us

Dan McCoy

[7:08] to watch your movie?

[7:09] What a clever pseudonym

[7:11] that would be.

[7:12] Well,

[7:12] he does use a K

[7:13] in it.

[7:13] He uses a K

[7:14] to throw people

[7:15] off the scent.

[7:16] It's M-C-K-O-Y.

[7:19] A spelling that I'm like,

[7:20] I get as an accident

[7:22] from people sometimes

[7:23] who are not familiar

[7:23] with the name.

[7:24] And previously,

[7:25] it's always made me

[7:26] kind of annoyed

[7:27] because I'm like,

[7:27] that's not a,

[7:28] like,

[7:28] that's not a spelling

[7:29] of McCoy.

[7:30] Like,

[7:31] that's not one that,

[7:32] and I'm like,

[7:32] oh,

[7:32] well,

[7:33] I guess it exists.

[7:34] I guess it,

Stuart Wellington

[7:35] because I think

[7:36] of probably everybody here,

[7:38] your name is the easiest

[7:40] to spell correctly.

[7:42] Ashley is spelled,

[7:44] I would say,

[7:44] non-traditionally.

[7:45] Oh, yeah.

[7:45] There's a lie at the end.

[7:47] That's all my attention now.

[7:49] Elliot with two T's,

[7:51] Stuart,

[7:52] you know,

[7:52] sometimes people else.

Elliott Kalan

[7:53] Nobody knows

[7:53] how to pronounce her spell.

[7:55] Kalan?

[7:56] Yeah,

[7:56] that's not how you,

[7:57] it's not how it's pronounced.

[7:58] Or colon?

[7:59] Yeah,

[7:59] they don't usually say colon,

[8:00] but they could.

[8:02] There's no law against it.

Stuart Wellington

[8:03] And usually people

[8:04] try and spell Stuart

[8:05] like it's a last name,

[8:06] and I'm like,

[8:07] no, no, no, no, no,

[8:07] I'm not French Stuart.

[8:09] Or French Stuart Wellington,

[8:11] which would be what?

[8:13] You were the baguette.

[8:14] Stuffed in a baguette, yeah.

[8:15] Give us a taste

Elliott Kalan

[8:15] of what French Stuart Wellington

[8:17] would sound like

[8:17] if you were French Stuart Wellington.

Stuart Wellington

[8:18] Oh, oh, oh,

[8:20] je m'appelle French Stuart.

[8:23] Delicious.

[8:25] Mouth-watering.

[8:27] I took French class,

[8:29] and every time I,

[8:30] only for two years,

[8:31] and every time I would start,

[8:32] you know,

[8:33] speaking,

[8:33] I would always go,

[8:34] oh, oh, oh,

[8:35] and they would get mad,

[8:36] and that's why I'd take French one.

[8:36] Immediately deduct 50 points

[8:38] from your grade, yeah.

[8:39] Oh, wow, man,

[8:40] Gryffindor lost that year.

[8:41] You're like,

S3

[8:42] I thought that was part of it.

[8:43] Fuck that shit.

[8:44] Right,

[8:44] I took French in Arkansas,

[8:45] and you got extra points

[8:46] for the oh, oh, oh, oh.

[8:47] That was pretty much

[8:49] the whole of my studies.

Elliott Kalan

[8:51] I took two semesters

[8:51] of German in college,

[8:52] and they always praised my accent,

[8:54] and I was like,

[8:55] well,

[8:55] I just think to myself,

[8:56] how would Peter Lorre say it?

[8:57] And the professor did not like that.

Stuart Wellington

[8:59] But also,

[9:00] like,

[9:00] there's enough,

[9:01] I feel like you have

[9:02] had enough exposure

[9:03] to like Yiddish,

[9:04] and I think Yiddish

[9:04] has some correlation.

Elliott Kalan

[9:06] Similar,

[9:06] but the accent's not quite the same,

[9:09] you know,

[9:09] so there's similar words,

[9:10] but delivered in a more like,

[9:12] huh?

[9:12] Hmm?

[9:13] Like Yiddish is always delivered like,

[9:14] huh?

[9:15] Am I right?

[9:15] Eh?

[9:16] You know what I'm talking about.

[9:17] You know?

[9:17] What do you think about this?

Stuart Wellington

[9:18] Yeah,

[9:18] so there's always eyebrows raised

[9:20] at some point.

[9:20] So,

[9:21] uh,

[9:22] Aliens,

[9:23] guys.

[9:24] Aliens,

Elliott Kalan

[9:25] what a movie.

[9:26] James Cameron takes

[9:27] maybe a perfect movie,

[9:28] Alien,

[9:29] and manages to find

[9:29] a different spin on it

[9:30] that in many ways

[9:32] is just as good.

[9:33] I prefer the first one,

[9:34] but the second one's

[9:35] also a masterpiece.

[9:36] Guys,

[9:36] what do we have to say

[9:36] about Aliens,

[9:37] the movie?

[9:38] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[9:38] So,

[9:39] Michael Bean,

[9:39] the bean machine,

[9:40] the bean dream,

[9:41] love him.

[9:42] Can't get enough.

[9:42] Bill Paxson,

[9:43] yum,

[9:44] yum,

[9:44] yum.

[9:44] Give me more of that guy.

[9:46] Or IP.

[9:47] Give me a hot glass

[9:47] of bean juice

Elliott Kalan

[9:48] and I thought it was

Stuart Wellington

[9:49] coffee you're asking for,

[9:51] but.

S3

[9:51] Nope,

[9:52] nope,

[9:52] not at all.

[9:54] Nope.

[9:55] It wasn't for me.

[9:56] I don't know.

[9:57] What?

Stuart Wellington

[10:00] Yeah,

[10:00] this is the,

[10:01] that's a joke.

[10:01] We just put Ashley

[10:02] in the hot seat.

[10:05] I feel like that's,

[10:06] that would be a tough one

[10:07] to argue,

[10:08] a tough stance to argue

[10:09] is that Aliens

[10:10] isn't good.

Elliott Kalan

[10:12] Yeah,

[10:12] I think that would,

[10:12] I think that'd be hard.

[10:13] I mean,

[10:13] some,

[10:13] I'm sure there's someone,

[10:14] I mean,

[10:14] Armand White,

[10:15] bring him in.

[10:15] I'm sure he'll make

[10:16] that argument,

[10:17] you know,

[10:17] but I,

[10:18] yeah,

[10:19] it's a hard argument.

[10:19] So,

Dan McCoy

[10:20] I saw a friend make a negative,

[10:21] just gave Aliens three stars

[10:24] on Letterboxd

[10:25] and my eyes.

Elliott Kalan

[10:26] I hope you excommunicated them.

[10:27] No,

[10:28] no,

[10:28] I'm not going to argue

Dan McCoy

[10:29] with someone on the internet,

[10:30] particularly a friend,

[10:31] but my eyes did pop out

[10:33] of my skull a little bit

[10:34] and I had to push it back.

Elliott Kalan

[10:35] pushing back in America.

[10:35] That's how divided America is.

[10:36] Some Americans think

[10:37] that Aliens is a three-star movie.

[10:39] Terrible.

[10:40] How do we reach these people?

[10:41] Yeah,

[10:42] right?

[10:42] Speaking of Aliens,

[10:44] though,

[10:45] Stuart,

[10:45] I think you were going to talk

[10:46] about a movie

[10:46] that has Aliens in it

[10:48] eventually.

[10:49] Oh,

Stuart Wellington

[10:49] right,

[10:50] right.

[10:50] I am talking about

[10:52] Mac and Bean.

Dan McCoy

[10:55] About a man's relationship

[10:57] with mac and cheese.

Stuart Wellington

[10:59] Yeah.

[11:00] No,

[11:01] I'm talking about

[11:01] this week

[11:03] we are reviewing

[11:04] Lumina

[11:04] from 19,

[11:06] 2024.

[11:08] This was a

[11:09] micro-budget movie,

[11:10] I'm assuming,

[11:11] that was written

[11:12] and directed by

[11:13] Gina McCoy.

Elliott Kalan

[11:14] It's either a micro-budget movie

[11:15] or it's one of those movies

[11:16] that somehow

[11:17] has an enormous budget

[11:18] but the money all went to

[11:20] not the movie

[11:21] that would happen.

[11:21] I don't know which.

[11:22] I didn't do any research on it.

[11:23] Well,

Dan McCoy

[11:23] it apparently went to

[11:24] hiring those professionals

[11:25] you talked about

[11:26] because I texted you guys

[11:27] being like,

[11:28] you know,

[11:28] it's not a good movie,

[11:30] the screenplay in particular

[11:31] doesn't work

[11:31] but it looks okay

[11:34] for the money

[11:34] that was spent on it

[11:35] and everything's framed well

[11:38] and looks relatively good

[11:41] for the level of production it is

[11:43] and it cuts together.

[11:45] I'm like,

[11:45] oh,

[11:46] I see.

[11:47] The cinematographer

[11:48] works on

[11:49] Only God Forgives

[11:50] and Eyes Wide Shut

Stuart Wellington

[11:51] and the editor

[11:53] worked on

[11:54] Witness.

[11:54] And the editor

[11:55] is an Academy Award winner.

Elliott Kalan

[11:56] What's his name?

Stuart Wellington

[11:58] Tom something?

[11:59] Tom Noble.

[12:00] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[12:00] Okay.

[12:01] He edited

[12:02] Thelma and Louise,

[12:03] another movie

[12:04] that spends a lot of time

[12:05] in a desert,

[12:06] you know?

[12:07] Yeah,

[12:07] that's what I heard of.

[12:08] So he was like,

[12:08] ah,

[12:08] I know this landscape.

[12:10] I will say,

[12:11] like,

[12:11] by the end of the movie,

[12:12] I definitely,

[12:13] when it was getting into

[12:14] the finally you're seeing

[12:15] alien things,

[12:15] I was like,

[12:16] okay,

[12:16] this is like

[12:17] a higher level of production

[12:19] than I expected

[12:20] from the first

[12:21] three quarters of the movie,

[12:23] which is mostly

[12:23] them hanging around,

[12:25] you know?

[12:25] Yeah.

S3

[12:26] So that's a real nice house

[12:27] that they're in.

[12:28] Oh,

[12:29] that's great.

Elliott Kalan

[12:30] I'm never impressed

[12:31] by how nice a house

[12:32] is in a movie

[12:33] because there's a lot

[12:33] of nice houses in porn.

[12:35] For sure.

[12:36] Correct.

Elliott Kalan

[12:36] And I don't think

S3

[12:36] that's where the budget

[12:37] is going necessarily.

[12:38] No.

[12:38] Well,

[12:39] apparently the budget

[12:39] somehow also went to,

[12:41] we'll get into it later,

[12:42] I think,

[12:43] but into distribution

[12:45] that then did not pan out,

[12:47] hence the lawsuit.

[12:49] But,

[12:49] you know,

[12:49] I can't tell

[12:50] if this movie is bad

[12:53] or if I just don't

[12:54] understand Los Angeles.

[12:55] Like,

[12:56] I really...

Elliott Kalan

[12:57] Was it the LAPD cop

[12:58] with an English accent

[12:59] that threw you off?

[13:00] Oh,

[13:01] I love that guy.

S3

[13:02] That guy was great.

[13:03] But also,

[13:03] you know,

[13:04] things like,

[13:04] this guy's living

[13:05] in this beautiful house

[13:06] with a pool

[13:06] with a girl

[13:07] whose relationship

[13:08] to him

[13:09] is never defined

[13:10] and you have no idea

[13:12] what either of them

[13:13] do for a living

[13:13] and I was like,

[13:14] is that poor plotting

[13:17] or is that just Los Angeles?

[13:19] It sounds like

[13:20] Elliot's cousin,

Stuart Wellington

[13:21] Kato Katelyn.

Elliott Kalan

[13:22] I mean,

[13:23] I think there is a

[13:25] thriving subculture

[13:26] still of L.A.

[13:27] hangers-on

[13:28] who live inside

[13:29] big houses

[13:29] that belong

[13:30] to their friends.

[13:31] But I think

[13:32] it was very funny

[13:32] when someone walks

[13:33] into the main character's house

[13:34] and he goes,

[13:35] whoa,

[13:35] what a house.

[13:36] What do you do?

[13:36] And he goes,

[13:37] don't worry about it.

[13:38] So the screenwriter

[13:39] could not be bothered

[13:40] to think of a job

[13:41] for this main character

[13:42] to have,

[13:42] you know?

S3

[13:43] Right,

[13:44] exposition George

[13:44] who also immediately

[13:46] calls the girl Smokey.

[13:48] And I was like,

[13:49] I'm so glad

[13:49] someone's acknowledging

[13:50] that this girl's

[13:51] whole job is vaping.

[13:52] Yeah,

[13:53] I mean,

[13:53] she's like ripping

Stuart Wellington

[13:54] serious clouds

[13:55] the whole time.

Elliott Kalan

[13:56] But let's talk about it

[13:57] because I also had

[13:57] the same question

[13:58] of I didn't know.

[13:59] It was hard to understand

[14:00] what the relationship

[14:00] was between

[14:01] some of these characters.

[14:02] But Stu,

[14:03] maybe you can illuminate

[14:04] us on that.

[14:04] So you keep talking

Stuart Wellington

[14:04] about characters.

[14:05] Let's look at this

[14:06] rich tapestry

[14:07] of characters.

[14:08] So we have

[14:08] our hero,

[14:10] Alex,

[14:11] or Lex

[14:12] to his friends.

[14:13] He is this

[14:14] like non-specific

[14:16] young rich guy

[14:17] who I believe

[14:18] is mentioned

[14:19] to have a trust fund.

[14:20] He lives in a big

[14:21] LA mansion

[14:22] and he lives with

[14:23] Patricia

[14:24] who is constantly

[14:25] filming things

[14:27] with her phone

[14:27] and vaping.

[14:29] She does not,

[14:30] other than that,

[14:30] have any other

[14:31] real role

[14:33] other than

[14:33] occasionally giving us

[14:34] exposition

[14:35] attention

[14:35] on the other

[14:36] characters.

Elliott Kalan

[14:37] And sometimes

[14:37] judging the other

[14:38] characters too.

[14:38] Judging the characters.

[14:39] And so what are

[14:40] Alex and Patricia's

[14:41] relationship?

[14:44] Do you know?

[14:45] Can we write them

[14:47] a letter?

S3

[14:48] I genuinely

[14:48] couldn't tell

[14:49] Patricia's relationship

[14:50] to anyone.

[14:51] Her allegiances

[14:52] seem to shift

[14:53] from moment

[14:54] to moment

[14:55] to moment.

[14:55] Like I'm not sure.

[14:56] Is she friends

[14:57] with Tatiana?

[14:58] Is she friends

[14:59] with Delilah?

[15:00] Also these names.

[15:01] Like no one's

[15:02] named Jen

[15:02] in this universe.

[15:04] Everyone has

[15:06] really ridiculous

[15:07] things.

Stuart Wellington

[15:07] George showed up

[15:08] and I'm like

[15:08] ah nice

[15:09] refreshing.

Dan McCoy

[15:10] Conspiracy George.

[15:12] I originally

[15:12] presumed that she

[15:13] didn't live there

[15:15] but was like

[15:15] in from out of town

[15:16] because there's

[15:17] this party going

[15:18] on later on

[15:19] and like she was

[15:19] just staying there

[15:20] over.

[15:21] But then later on

[15:22] it seemed to be

[15:23] like months

[15:24] later.

[15:25] His beard

[15:26] is still there.

[15:27] The beard

Elliott Kalan

[15:27] shows.

[15:27] When he grows

[15:29] maybe the funniest

[15:32] fake beard

[15:32] I've seen

[15:33] in forever.

[15:34] It lifted my

[15:35] spirits at a time

[15:35] when I needed it.

S3

[15:37] I thought he looked

[15:38] cuter with the beard.

[15:39] I was like

[15:39] oh that works

[15:40] for you.

[15:40] I think it does

[15:41] work for him.

[15:42] He looked a little

[15:42] meathead-y

[15:43] before the beard.

Elliott Kalan

[15:45] Here's my theory

[15:46] which is not

[15:46] borne out by anything

[15:47] in the text.

[15:47] He looked like a

[15:48] Bolshevik.

[15:49] He did look like

[15:50] he should be

[15:51] working with Molotov

[15:53] to undermine

[15:54] the czarist

[15:55] structure.

[15:56] That's why I like him.

[15:59] I think

[16:00] this is my theory.

[16:02] It again is not

[16:02] in the text.

[16:03] It's not that

[16:03] I think Alex,

[16:05] Patricia,

[16:05] and Delilah

[16:06] were college friends

[16:07] and Patricia

[16:10] she's come out

[16:10] to LA

[16:11] to make it

[16:12] in some industry

[16:12] and she's been

[16:13] staying with Alex

[16:14] but she never really

[16:15] hit,

[16:16] it really didn't

[16:16] really take off

[16:17] her career

[16:17] so she's still

[16:18] staying with Alex.

[16:19] Probably like a

Stuart Wellington

[16:20] vape influencer.

[16:21] Yes, exactly.

[16:23] Influencer adjacent

[16:23] definitely.

[16:24] Testing out

[16:25] various flavors.

[16:27] What do people

[16:27] like to vape?

Elliott Kalan

[16:30] They really like lead.

[16:32] They really like lead

[16:33] getting into their system

[16:34] from vape.

[16:34] Tatiana is the

[16:36] outsider to that group.

Stuart Wellington

[16:37] You mentioned

[16:38] Delilah and Tatiana.

[16:39] Let's find out

[16:40] who they are.

[16:41] Delilah is

[16:42] Alex's

[16:42] ex-girlfriend

[16:43] who still has

[16:44] feelings for him.

[16:45] She is convinced

[16:46] and no matter

[16:47] what happens

[16:48] throughout the course

[16:48] of the movie

[16:49] her main goal

[16:50] at all times

[16:51] is to get Alex

[16:52] to come back to her

[16:53] even when there's

[16:55] aliens chasing them

[16:56] and she is

[16:57] constantly looking at him

[16:58] the way my wife

[16:59] looks at me

[16:59] when I start

[16:59] explaining my

[17:00] character build

[17:01] in the game

[17:01] Elden Ring

[17:02] where she's

[17:03] very turned on

[17:04] she's very like

[17:04] oh wow

[17:05] you put all your

[17:06] points into strength

[17:08] vigor and stamina

[17:09] how original.

Dan McCoy

[17:10] You and Sherilyn's

[17:11] relationship is so much

[17:12] different than

[17:12] I thought it was.

Stuart Wellington

[17:13] Yeah I know

[17:14] it's behind closed

[17:14] doors you never

[17:15] know.

[17:15] Yeah yeah.

[17:16] And then

[17:17] Patricia introduced

[17:19] her as delusional

[17:20] Delilah.

[17:20] Yep.

[17:21] And then we have

[17:22] Tatiana who's

[17:22] the new girlfriend

[17:23] and the party is

[17:24] being thrown to

[17:25] kind of introduce

[17:25] her to all of

[17:26] Alex's friends

[17:27] and she is

[17:29] blonde and has

[17:30] a history of

[17:30] being abducted

[17:31] by aliens.

Elliott Kalan

[17:32] Which we don't

[17:33] know right away.

[17:34] That is something

[17:34] that is revealed.

[17:35] It's not like

[17:35] she's introducing

[17:36] herself to people

[17:37] with that information.

S3

[17:38] She doesn't seem

[17:39] to introduce

[17:39] herself to

[17:40] anyone.

[17:40] It's a party

[17:41] for her

[17:41] to introduce

[17:43] her yet everyone

[17:44] in that living

[17:44] room knows her

[17:45] name.

[17:45] There's a whole

[17:46] sequence where

[17:46] she's walking

[17:47] and everybody's

[17:47] like Tatiana

[17:48] Tatiana and

[17:49] she's like hey

[17:50] hey yeah I like

[17:51] your dress too.

[17:52] You know.

[17:53] All these women

[17:53] follow the sort

[17:54] of lifetime

[17:55] movie rule of

[17:56] hair you know

[17:57] where it's like

[17:58] new girlfriend

[17:59] like acceptable

[18:00] girlfriend has

[18:01] blonde straight

[18:01] hair.

[18:03] There's the bad

[18:04] ex-girlfriend

[18:05] that's trouble

[18:06] with like the

[18:06] brunette straight

[18:07] bangs.

[18:08] And then of

[18:10] course like the

[18:11] absolutely drop

[18:12] dead gorgeous

[18:12] woman of color

[18:13] who is somehow

[18:14] friend zoned

[18:15] and will never

[18:16] be a romantic

[18:17] prospect for

[18:19] absolutely no

[18:20] reason.

Stuart Wellington

[18:20] They just got to

[18:21] give her a couple

[18:21] of quirks and

[18:22] she'll just hang

[18:23] around.

S3

[18:23] Yeah she's very

[18:24] prop heavy.

Stuart Wellington

[18:25] We also very

[18:26] agree.

[18:27] Well she needs

[18:27] to be because

[18:28] no one's given

[18:28] the personality.

[18:29] She's like an

[18:29] SBU interviewee

[18:30] where they're like

[18:31] hey sir let me

[18:33] introduce this

[18:33] let me interview

[18:34] this male stripper

[18:35] and he's like

[18:35] hanging his little

[18:36] g-strings on the

[18:37] washing line.

S3

[18:38] The bartender

[18:38] like yeah no

[18:39] she came in

[18:40] the other day.

[18:41] It's like dude

[18:42] you can do that

Stuart Wellington

[18:42] later.

[18:43] You don't have to

Dan McCoy

[18:44] do that right now.

[18:45] Any personality

[18:45] that any of the

[18:46] characters is given

[18:46] is based on

[18:47] something external

[18:48] to them whether

[18:49] it be a vape,

[18:50] a beard,

[18:51] an ox cable

[18:52] later on.

Elliott Kalan

[18:54] Oh yeah.

[18:54] Except for George.

[18:55] I feel like George

[18:56] is the one guy

[18:57] with any personality

[18:57] because he's the

[18:58] conspiracy theorist.

[18:59] He's a little bit

[19:00] of a joker.

[19:01] And he also

[19:02] works with children.

[19:03] He volunteers his time.

[19:04] That's true.

[19:04] That was the biggest

[19:05] shocking twist of the movie

[19:08] in a movie that involves

[19:09] secret alien abductions

[19:10] was that when he's like

[19:11] yeah I do a lot of

[19:12] volunteering with children.

Stuart Wellington

[19:13] Okay so George

[19:14] hasn't shown up yet.

[19:15] We have this party

[19:16] where we're just

[19:17] walking around

[19:18] one of those

[19:18] like LA style

[19:20] mansions

[19:20] that you're like

[19:21] am I in

[19:22] like the waiting room

[19:23] for some kind of

[19:24] high end doctor's office?

Elliott Kalan

[19:25] Like is this a hotel

[19:26] hotel that someone

[19:27] is squatting in

[19:28] and they just made

[19:28] at their house?

[19:29] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[19:30] And a lot of music

[19:31] is played

[19:31] and I have to say

[19:32] that there's a song

[19:34] with lyrics

[19:35] about a sensi girl

[19:36] and I was like

[19:37] there's no way

[19:38] that this song

[19:39] is not by the director

[19:40] of this movie.

[19:41] There's no other reason

[19:43] this would be in here

[19:44] and I looked it up

[19:45] and sure enough

[19:45] all the music

[19:46] is by Gene and LeVoy.

[19:47] And what is a sensi girl?

Elliott Kalan

[19:48] Because I didn't know

[19:49] I thought it was

[19:49] like a sensi girl

[19:50] like splinter

[19:51] for the Ninja Turtles

[19:52] like

[19:52] No it means

[19:53] sensitive?

[19:55] It's not like

[19:56] a slang term.

[19:56] Well I thought

Elliott Kalan

[19:56] it was Cincinnati.

[19:59] Because I put

[20:00] the captions on

[20:00] because I thought

[20:01] I was like

[20:01] that's a weird way

[20:02] to pronounce sexy

[20:03] and I looked up

[20:04] I put the captions on

[20:04] oh no it's sensi

[20:05] what is this

[20:06] what does this mean?

Dan McCoy

[20:06] S-C-N-S-Y

[20:08] is how it's spelled

[20:09] in the title

[20:10] of the song

[20:11] and on the captions

[20:11] so sensi.

Stuart Wellington

[20:14] Yeah yeah yeah

[20:14] so you just get

[20:15] that feeling

[20:15] and you have to

[20:16] check what the song's about.

[20:17] Okay.

[20:18] So after the party

[20:20] Lex tries to

Elliott Kalan

[20:21] Actually I used Shazam

[20:22] to try to identify

[20:23] the song

[20:23] and my phone exploded.

[20:27] It hung itself.

Stuart Wellington

[20:30] Okay so

[20:31] so at the party

[20:33] we you know

[20:33] the character dynamics

[20:35] get reinforced

[20:36] Delilah tries to

[20:37] make a move on Alex

[20:38] yada yada yada.

[20:39] Afterwards Alex

[20:40] None of them seem

[20:41] to like each other

[20:42] very much.

[20:42] They are friends

Elliott Kalan

[20:43] who don't like each other.

[20:45] She has been

[20:46] has had a

[20:47] an unrequited love

[20:49] for Alex for years.

[20:50] She doesn't really

[20:50] seem to like him

[20:51] very much.

[20:52] He doesn't seem

[20:52] to like her that much.

[20:53] It's a

[20:54] there's not a lot

[20:54] of affection

[20:55] between these friends

[20:56] and so I wonder

[20:56] if this is

[20:57] maybe this alien stuff

[20:58] was just an elaborate

[20:59] way to like

[20:59] end a friendship.

[21:02] Like

[21:02] they couldn't

[21:03] find the words.

Stuart Wellington

[21:05] this has all the vibes

[21:06] of a guy who's like

[21:08] I'm gonna make a movie

[21:09] and I'll put all my

[21:09] friends in it

[21:10] and I don't know

[21:12] you can be the vapor

[21:13] and you can be

[21:14] the ex-girlfriend

[21:15] and yada yada yada.

[21:16] Like

[21:16] it's very thinly drawn

[21:18] without much

[21:19] background.

[21:20] These characters

[21:20] don't have a rich

[21:21] inner life.

[21:22] No.

Dan McCoy

[21:23] Okay.

[21:24] I mean they've got a rich house.

[21:25] Yeah we're still

[21:25] on the first page

[21:26] of notes.

Stuart Wellington

[21:28] So

[21:29] after the

[21:30] after the party

[21:30] Tatiana goes out

[21:32] to the pool

[21:32] to go

[21:33] for a swim

[21:34] and of course

[21:35] this is when

[21:36] we cut to a lady jogger

[21:38] jogging outside the property

[21:39] and then aliens attack.

[21:41] The lady jogger

[21:41] is only shown up briefly

[21:43] just so she can have

[21:44] a single reaction shot

[21:45] to the

[21:46] abduction blast

[21:48] or whatever.

[21:48] So I don't know

[21:49] I'm guessing it's

[21:50] again this is another

[21:51] friend of the family

[21:52] who showed up

[21:52] with a

[21:53] you know

[21:53] a high tight ponytail.

[21:55] Okay.

[21:55] So there's a

[21:56] the cops show up

[21:57] was there anything

[21:59] about this sequence

[22:00] that felt normal

[22:01] to you guys?

[22:02] No.

Elliott Kalan

[22:02] Before the

[22:02] before the

[22:03] before the cops show up

[22:04] which did not feel normal

[22:05] I will say that

[22:06] Delilah and

[22:07] there's a moment

[22:08] where Delilah and Patricia

[22:09] are talking to each other

[22:11] and Delilah's like

[22:12] I just want that bitch

[22:13] to disappear

[22:13] about Tatiana

[22:14] and that's when

[22:15] the

[22:16] the light blast

[22:17] abducts

[22:17] or seemingly

[22:18] vaporizes

[22:19] Tatiana.

Dan McCoy

[22:20] You mentioned the jogger

[22:22] but I didn't know

[22:22] whether you actually

[22:23] mentioned the fact

[22:23] that Tatiana

[22:24] like turns into

[22:25] like Avengers

[22:27] in

[22:28] wait which one

[22:30] is the one?

Stuart Wellington

[22:30] Infinity War

[22:31] yeah where they all

[22:31] turn into dust

[22:32] they'll turn into dust

[22:33] yeah she like

[22:34] she Thanos

[22:34] is that

[22:35] right before she's

[22:37] blasted

[22:37] the liquid

[22:39] in the wine glasses

[22:40] starts to like float up

[22:41] in a pretty cool

[22:42] special effect

[22:43] that was actually

[22:44] I liked it a lot

Dan McCoy

[22:45] I liked the image

[22:46] you know the CGI

[22:47] obviously was not

[22:48] very good

[22:49] but the image

[22:49] in and of itself

[22:50] it's also

Elliott Kalan

[22:51] it's one

[22:51] it's a

[22:52] something that happens

[22:53] in movies a lot

[22:54] that I always find

[22:54] very funny

[22:55] where

[22:55] it's the Jurassic Park

[22:58] kind of like

[22:59] water droplet

[23:00] when a T-Rex

[23:00] is coming thing

[23:01] where you see

[23:02] a little thing

[23:03] react to a huge force

[23:04] but big things

[23:06] are not reacting

[23:07] to it

[23:07] so it's like

[23:08] oh it has the power

[23:09] to pull up this wine

[23:10] but nothing else

[23:11] oh no a person

[23:12] okay I got it

[23:12] the same way

[23:13] how in Jurassic Park

[23:14] the T-Rex

[23:15] it shakes water

[23:16] that's how

[23:17] that's how

[23:17] big his steps are

[23:19] but at the end

[23:19] he's able to tiptoe in

[23:20] and surprise them

[23:21] and eat a raptor

[23:22] he's so sneaky

S3

[23:23] yeah exactly

Elliott Kalan

[23:25] his tennis

[23:26] yeah

[23:27] yeah he's on his

[23:27] tippy tippy toes

S3

[23:28] I mean

[23:29] I just really liked

[23:30] that you knew

[23:31] that something

[23:32] was gonna happen

[23:33] because those women

[23:33] were seated

[23:34] on that couch

[23:35] in a way that

[23:35] women have never

[23:36] spoken to each other

[23:37] in their entire lives

[23:38] it's like so

[23:39] it's a very

[23:40] gendered way

[23:41] of sitting

[23:42] I was always told

[23:44] as a young woman

[23:45] I was told

[23:46] if you want to

[23:46] speak to a man

[23:47] you should sit

[23:49] next to him

[23:49] but face something

[23:50] else

[23:51] instead of facing

[23:52] another person

[23:53] instead of facing

[23:54] them head on

[23:55] because that's how

[23:56] women talk to each other

[23:57] is looking at each other

[23:58] yeah men I guess

[23:59] you have to sit

[24:00] at a baseball game

[24:01] and like look out

[24:02] at the field

[24:03] and then you can

[24:04] have a heart to heart

[24:05] talk

[24:05] cars are good

[24:07] these are all things

[24:08] I was told

[24:08] get a real taste

[24:09] of that profile

[24:10] but they are

[24:12] sort of sitting there

[24:12] and Tatiana is framed

[24:14] in between them

[24:15] in a very

[24:16] Bo Derek

[24:17] sort of moment

[24:18] going into that pool

[24:19] you know

[24:20] well

[24:20] that's nice

[24:21] it is

Elliott Kalan

[24:23] I never thought about

[24:24] you're right

[24:24] when I have a heart to heart

[24:25] talk with somebody

[24:26] I do take them

[24:26] to a natural history museum

[24:28] or somewhere else

[24:28] where there's a diorama

[24:29] we can both look at

[24:30] at the same time

[24:31] sure

Stuart Wellington

[24:31] a planetarium

[24:32] I'm a walk and talk guy

[24:34] so I find an office

[24:35] somewhere

[24:35] and we walk down

[24:36] hallways

[24:36] I give some

[24:38] rapid fire delivery

[24:38] that is like

[24:40] kind of funny

[24:41] but not super

[24:42] laugh out loud funny

[24:43] and sometimes

[24:44] you'll take

Elliott Kalan

[24:44] one piece of information

[24:45] and cut it between

[24:46] split it between

[24:47] three different people

[24:48] so it sounds like dialogue

[24:49] even though it's just

[24:49] exposition about how

[24:50] the legislative process works

[24:52] yeah

[24:52] it's really great

Stuart Wellington

[24:53] I'm pretty talented

[24:54] so

[24:55] okay

[24:55] so again

[24:56] the windows get

[24:57] blasted open

[24:58] Tatiana disappears

[24:59] there seems to be

[25:00] like a puddle

[25:02] of smoking lava

[25:03] or something

[25:04] I can't tell

[25:05] what's going on

[25:06] but there

[25:07] obviously

[25:07] everybody's freaked out

[25:09] Alex is running around

[25:09] yelling where Tatiana

[25:10] like where is Tatiana

[25:12] the police show up

[25:12] of course

[25:13] this is where we have

[25:13] the introduction of

[25:14] I think all of our

[25:15] favorite character

[25:16] that's right

[25:16] the cop with the

[25:17] English accent

[25:17] in Los Angeles

Elliott Kalan

[25:18] this was the moment

[25:20] and a couple of

[25:21] characters in this movie

[25:21] have English accents

[25:22] or Tatiana does

[25:23] and does Delilah also

[25:25] I'm trying to remember

[25:25] I think she does

[25:26] right

[25:26] but this was the moment

[25:27] where I was like

[25:28] wait a minute

[25:28] I thought this was

[25:29] taking place in LA

[25:30] they talked a lot

[25:32] about LA

[25:32] but this police officer

[25:33] clearly has an English accent

[25:35] and I have never encountered

[25:36] an English accented

[25:37] LAPD officer

[25:38] rarely does someone

[25:39] come from another

[25:41] like another

[25:42] European country

[25:44] and then become

[25:44] an LAPD officer

[25:45] like it's just not a

[25:46] it's not a thing

[25:46] I've encountered

[25:47] but so really

[25:48] and also his attitude

[25:50] is very funny

[25:50] he's so quick to like

[25:51] either it's somewhere

[25:53] between hostility

[25:54] and not caring

[25:55] which I think

[25:56] is accurate

[25:57] for an LAPD officer

[25:58] in a lot of ways

[25:59] but yeah

Stuart Wellington

[25:59] so shortly

[26:01] shortly after

[26:01] we have this introduction

[26:03] to this great character

[26:04] who then disappears

[26:04] from our lives forever

[26:05] unfortunately

Elliott Kalan

[26:06] it reminds me of

[26:08] there was some movie

[26:08] we watched years ago

[26:09] where there was a person

[26:10] I think holding a little dog

[26:11] in the background

[26:12] and we were just like

[26:13] the movie should be about them

Stuart Wellington

[26:14] I think it's right around now

[26:18] that Alex

[26:18] hears the audio

[26:20] of Delilah

[26:21] wishing Tatiana

[26:22] would just disappear

[26:23] and he takes that

[26:25] immediately

[26:26] takes offense to it

[26:27] and he throws her

[26:28] out of his life

[26:29] she's like

[26:29] Lex

[26:31] never call me that again

[26:32] that's only for friends

[26:34] also super cool

[26:35] that Patricia

[26:35] boomeranged it

S3

[26:37] you know

[26:37] like it's on a loop

[26:39] yeah

Elliott Kalan

[26:40] and she's like

[26:41] I can't seem to turn it off

[26:42] it's like come on

[26:43] you just press the thing

[26:44] that turns off

[26:44] the screen on the phone

[26:46] like come on

[26:46] turn your volume down

[26:48] or whatever

Dan McCoy

[26:48] but he also reacts

[26:50] as if like

[26:51] after what you did

[26:52] and it's like

[26:53] yeah like

[26:54] I understand

[26:55] in this situation

[26:56] you're in

[26:57] like that is very

[26:57] a hurtful thing to hear

[26:59] and you're mad

[27:00] that she said it

[27:00] but she didn't

[27:01] like make the lady disappear

[27:02] and you're acting

[27:04] as if

Elliott Kalan

[27:04] yeah he now blames her

[27:05] if you hadn't

[27:06] wished upon that star

S3

[27:07] when you said that

[27:08] but it's LA

[27:10] you know

[27:11] maybe they believe

[27:11] in just manifestation

[27:12] to that degree

[27:14] that's very possible

[27:15] if this

Stuart Wellington

[27:15] it's like

[27:15] at the party

[27:16] I saw you

[27:17] splitting the wishbone

Elliott Kalan

[27:18] if these characters

[27:21] were really into crystals

[27:22] I feel like

[27:22] the whole movie

[27:23] would make a lot more sense

[27:24] to me

[27:24] all their actions

[27:25] yeah

Stuart Wellington

[27:25] uh huh

[27:26] so uh

[27:27] time passes

[27:29] how do we know

[27:30] time passes Stuart

[27:31] well uh

[27:32] the house

[27:33] remains exactly the same

[27:34] Patricia

[27:35] remains exactly the same

[27:37] living in the house

[27:38] but there's some

[27:39] thing

[27:40] different

[27:40] is it

[27:41] is there something

[27:42] about Alex

[27:43] did he get like

[27:44] a smudge on his face

[27:45] no no no

[27:46] his hair has gotten

[27:47] kind of messed up

[27:48] but his beard

[27:49] has gotten crazy

[27:50] he has this massive beard

[27:52] uh

[27:53] it looks like

[27:53] he is entering

[27:54] a world's biggest

[27:55] beard competition

[27:56] it looks like

Elliott Kalan

[27:57] he is playing

[27:58] Moses

[27:58] in a church play

[28:00] like

[28:01] it's an enormous

[28:02] biblical

[28:02] patriarch fake beard

Dan McCoy

[28:04] it's so funny

[28:05] but like a

[28:05] Grecian formula

[28:06] Moses

[28:07] it's still like

[28:07] very like black

[28:08] oh it's still black

[28:09] very dark

[28:09] oh no

[28:10] this is a young

[28:11] hot Moses

S3

[28:12] yeah for sure

[28:12] yeah

[28:12] yeah it worked

[28:13] for me

[28:14] I was really like

[28:16] now who's this guy

[28:17] also the pool

[28:18] is really maintained

[28:19] for somebody

[28:20] who's been sitting

[28:21] outside at

[28:21] like

[28:22] for six months

[28:23] doing nothing

[28:23] I mean he must have

[28:24] he's got people

[28:25] to do that

[28:27] he just gets

Elliott Kalan

[28:28] Chris Pine

[28:29] from Pool Man

[28:30] to come over

[28:31] and get it

[28:32] you know

[28:32] put into shape

[28:33] yeah

Stuart Wellington

[28:33] he's the best

[28:34] yeah I mean

[28:34] he was

[28:35] that was the story

[28:36] right

[28:36] is that Chris Pine

[28:37] worked as a pool man

[28:38] for years

[28:39] preparing for

[28:40] his directorial debut

[28:41] yeah

[28:41] for 10 years

Elliott Kalan

[28:43] when he wasn't acting

[28:44] he was cleaning pools

[28:45] undercover

[28:45] yeah

Stuart Wellington

[28:46] yeah yeah

[28:46] going to the langurs

[28:47] and cleaning pools

[28:48] so time has passed

Elliott Kalan

[28:50] I will say

[28:51] it is

[28:51] Stuart

[28:51] you're right

[28:52] that like the

[28:53] time has passed

[28:55] you mentioned

[28:55] the house has not changed

[28:56] and when you did

[28:57] it reminded me of

[28:57] the beautiful sequence

[28:59] in Virginia Woolf's

[29:00] To the Lighthouse

[29:01] where

[29:02] she's talking about

[29:03] the house

[29:03] kind of remain

[29:04] being untouched

[29:06] and remaining the same

[29:07] the dust that changes

[29:08] this thing

[29:08] creased a little bit

[29:09] as all these events

[29:10] are happening

[29:10] with the family

[29:11] in parentheticals

[29:12] and you know what

[29:13] maybe that's what

[29:14] they're going for

[29:14] with this scene

[29:15] is that

[29:15] so little has changed

[29:17] around the world

[29:17] about the world

[29:18] they live in

[29:19] except for

[29:20] except for this beard

[29:21] which is the one

[29:22] element of time

[29:23] in an otherwise

[29:24] unchanging world

[29:25] where people are

[29:26] just one small element

[29:27] you know

[29:27] and not necessarily

[29:28] the way that time

[29:29] should be measured

[29:29] by the lives of humans

[29:30] do you think that's

[29:31] what they're trying

[29:31] to get at

Stuart Wellington

[29:32] yeah I think so

[29:33] my favorite part

[29:34] in To the Lighthouse

[29:35] is when they get

[29:35] to that lighthouse

[29:36] and aliens

[29:36] go buck wild

[29:37] on them

[29:38] to quote Virginia Woolf

[29:40] it's all the last

[29:41] ten pages

[29:41] yeah yeah

[29:42] exactly

Elliott Kalan

[29:43] okay so

[29:45] someone's like

[29:46] I fixed to the lighthouse

[29:47] they finally get

[29:48] to the lighthouse

[29:48] and there's aliens there

[29:50] or they get

[29:51] to the lighthouse

[29:52] it's the lighthouse

[29:53] from the movie

[29:53] The Lighthouse

[29:54] and they're like

[29:54] this is a weirder

[29:55] lighthouse than we expected

[29:56] yeah

Stuart Wellington

[29:57] okay so

[29:58] he has gotten

[30:00] Alex has fallen deep

[30:01] into a

[30:02] like a conspiracy hole

[30:04] he has been having

[30:05] these dreams

[30:06] that give him visions

[30:07] dreams of him

[30:08] being abducted

[30:09] or walking through

[30:10] a deep underground

[30:11] military base

[30:12] which is repeatedly

[30:15] referred to

[30:15] in the description

[30:17] as dumb

[30:18] which I found

[30:19] a very funny choice

[30:20] yeah

Elliott Kalan

[30:21] and what does dumb

[30:23] stand for?

Stuart Wellington

[30:24] deep underground

[30:25] yep you got it

Dan McCoy

[30:26] for a movie

[30:28] that like

[30:29] does not

[30:29] seem to have

[30:30] a lot of

[30:31] sort of

[30:32] diegetic

[30:33] sense of humor

[30:34] it's very odd

[30:36] that they made

[30:36] this choice

[30:37] yeah

Stuart Wellington

[30:38] I was like

[30:40] oh is this camp?

[30:41] yeah yeah

[30:41] exactly

[30:42] hard to say

[30:43] the

[30:44] so

[30:44] Alex has

[30:46] like put together

[30:47] a big

[30:47] like a big

[30:49] collage

[30:49] of newspaper clippings

[30:51] and red string

[30:52] and he invites

[30:53] his friend George

[30:54] who is the

[30:55] aforementioned

[30:56] conspiracy nut

[30:57] friend

[30:57] who also

[30:58] is shocked

[30:59] by how

[31:00] nice a house

[31:01] Alex has

[31:02] George comes over

[31:03] and they just

[31:04] kind of hang out

[31:05] on the couch

[31:05] and start looking

[31:06] at articles

[31:07] on the internet

[31:08] of alien abductions

[31:09] like you do

[31:11] I was really shocked

S3

[31:12] by how

[31:13] mod podged

[31:14] and well done

[31:14] well appointed

[31:15] the conspiracy room

[31:17] was

[31:17] you know

[31:18] but he did

[31:19] seem to run

[31:19] out of things

[31:20] the I want to

[31:21] believe poster

[31:21] was on there

[31:22] at least six times

[31:23] it was a lot of

[31:25] it was

[31:25] it was very much

[31:26] not meant

[31:27] to be looked at

Elliott Kalan

[31:28] closely

[31:28] that

[31:29] that evidence

[31:30] board

[31:30] because it was

[31:31] a lot of like

[31:32] just kind of

[31:33] random pages

[31:34] from like the

[31:34] weekly world news

[31:35] and things like that

[31:36] and you know

[31:36] there wasn't

[31:37] there wasn't

[31:37] a sense of

[31:38] oh he's putting

[31:38] together

[31:39] a research story

[31:40] here

[31:41] it was more like

[31:41] we gotta put

[31:42] alien stuff on

[31:42] these walls

[31:43] come on guys

[31:44] we shoot

[31:44] tomorrow morning

Dan McCoy

[31:45] there also is

[31:46] no indication

[31:47] that he's

[31:47] good at this

[31:48] that's true

[31:49] it was very funny

[31:51] to me

[31:52] later on

[31:53] when like

[31:53] he gets into

[31:54] a fist fight

[31:55] I'm like

[31:55] why would this

[31:56] guy like

[31:57] know how to

[31:58] fight

[31:58] like why

Elliott Kalan

[31:59] I mean

[32:00] we know

[32:00] nothing about

[32:00] his background

[32:01] we can fill it

[32:01] in

[32:02] maybe he's

[32:02] former

[32:02] special services

[32:03] secret services

[32:04] yeah

[32:04] it's just one

Dan McCoy

[32:05] of these movies

[32:05] where someone

[32:05] turns into

[32:06] an action hero

[32:07] because the

[32:07] person making

[32:08] the movie

[32:08] has seen

[32:09] movies

[32:10] yeah

[32:10] and they're

[32:10] gonna fight

[32:11] like that

[32:11] happens

[32:12] choke out

[32:12] this special

S3

[32:13] forces guy

[32:14] in full tactical

[32:14] body

[32:15] armor

[32:15] oh yeah

[32:15] George loses

[32:16] the glasses

[32:17] and the hat

[32:17] and all of a sudden

[32:18] he's

[32:18] yeah

Stuart Wellington

[32:20] we have a

[32:21] Liam Neeson's

[32:21] okay

[32:23] so as I said

[32:24] Alex is spurred on

[32:26] for this conspiracy

[32:27] theory by

[32:29] he's having

[32:30] we have shots

[32:30] of him writhing

[32:31] in the covers

[32:32] kind of sweaty

[32:33] having these visions

[32:34] where he's walking

[32:35] around a dumb

[32:36] wandering around

[32:38] that's again

[32:39] deep underground

[32:40] is this when

[32:42] Patricia goes

[32:42] to wake him up

[32:43] and he starts

[32:43] to choke her

[32:44] Patricia goes

[32:44] to wake him up

[32:45] and he

[32:45] he chokes her

[32:46] and they have

[32:47] let's say

[32:47] a falling out

[32:48] briefly

Elliott Kalan

[32:49] I mean

[32:51] if you're

[32:52] gonna live

[32:52] in someone's

[32:52] house

[32:53] for months

[32:54] and you're

[32:55] not contributing

[32:55] maybe

[32:56] maybe you're

[32:57] asking

[32:57] that's a hot take

[32:58] yeah I actually

Stuart Wellington

[33:00] don't even believe

[33:00] in it

[33:01] I did sort of

[33:03] go

[33:03] your value

[33:03] is based on

[33:04] how much

[33:05] you bring

[33:05] to the table

S3

[33:06] I really liked

[33:07] how they delineated

[33:08] dream Alex

[33:10] from real Alex

[33:10] that was one of the

[33:11] clearest things

[33:12] to me in this film

[33:13] particularly because

[33:15] Alex in bed

[33:16] is screaming

[33:17] and Alex in dream

[33:19] is just sort of

[33:20] chilling

[33:20] walking around

[33:21] this space

Stuart Wellington

[33:21] but they both

[33:22] have crazy beards

[33:23] right

[33:24] yes

[33:24] they both do

S3

[33:25] but one is in

[33:26] blue light

[33:26] and one is in

[33:28] very sort of

[33:29] green

Stuart Wellington

[33:29] for a movie

[33:30] where a character

[33:31] is presented

[33:32] with multiple

[33:33] hairstyles

[33:33] and beard styles

[33:34] it is weird

[33:35] that his

[33:36] he always

[33:36] it's like he always

[33:37] views himself

[33:38] as a man

[33:39] with a big crazy beard

[33:39] yeah

[33:40] even when he doesn't

[33:41] have a beard

Elliott Kalan

[33:41] he carries himself

[33:42] as a bearded man

[33:43] that's what I was

[33:44] gonna say

[33:44] internal beard

[33:45] yeah

[33:45] my guess is that

[33:46] they could probably

[33:47] get a better beard

[33:48] do you think this beard

[33:48] was one of the

[33:49] contributors

[33:50] was one of the

[33:51] producers

[33:51] like it put some

[33:51] funding into the movie

[33:52] and that's why

[33:53] they had to put

[33:54] this beard in

[33:54] it was like a

[33:55] Kickstarter award

Stuart Wellington

[33:56] donate your beard

[33:59] put your beard

[34:01] in the movie

[34:02] okay so

[34:05] do you think

[34:05] and do you think

[34:06] the actor who played

[34:07] Alex was

[34:07] like walking around

[34:09] with that beard

[34:09] for months and months

[34:10] wearing it even

[34:11] when not on camera

[34:12] he's like

[34:12] I just gotta get

[34:13] into the role

[34:14] and his wife's like

[34:15] or her husband

[34:15] is like

[34:16] oh I hate

[34:17] this stupid beard

[34:18] I think I'm gonna

[34:19] keep it

[34:19] I really hope

S3

[34:21] that actor's gay

[34:22] like for some reason

[34:24] you said that

[34:24] and I just

[34:25] ah

[34:26] maybe like

[34:28] I'm giving him more

[34:28] 20% more

Stuart Wellington

[34:29] we're giving him

[34:30] a rich inner life

[34:31] here unlike the

[34:31] characters in the film

[34:32] so

[34:32] I mean I'm sure

Elliott Kalan

[34:33] the actor probably

[34:34] does have a rich

[34:35] inner life

[34:35] being a human being

[34:36] for sure

Stuart Wellington

[34:37] well I've met

[34:38] some humans

[34:39] without a rich

[34:40] inner life

[34:40] that's true

[34:41] and from what I hear

[34:42] I hear that LA

[34:44] is full of people

[34:45] without rich inner lives

[34:46] oh thanks

[34:47] Aldous Huxley

[34:48] yeah appreciate

[34:48] the take on LA

[34:50] okay so at some point

[34:53] Delilah returns

[34:54] Nathaniel West over here

[34:56] look at him

S3

[34:56] oh wait

[34:57] there's the one shot

[34:58] of the bloody nose

[34:59] though

[34:59] oh yeah

[35:00] which where like

[35:01] all of a sudden

[35:01] there's just

[35:02] a fuck ton of blood

[35:03] on Alex's hands

[35:05] and then

[35:05] next shot

[35:06] gone

[35:07] yeah

[35:08] no explanation

[35:09] no nothing

Stuart Wellington

[35:10] I feel like this movie

[35:11] is filled with moments

[35:12] like that

[35:12] where I kept

[35:13] rewinding things

[35:14] to be like

[35:15] did I fucking miss something

[35:16] was I looking at my phone

[35:17] for a second

[35:18] and the thing is

[35:19] I was looking at my phone

[35:20] but I didn't miss anything

Elliott Kalan

[35:21] but you were looking at your phone

[35:22] to look at the plot summary

[35:23] of Lumina

[35:23] because there were

[35:24] yeah

[35:25] that's what I was doing

[35:26] there are gaps in the movie

[35:28] that maybe they're meant

[35:29] to be the functional equivalent

[35:30] of the lost time blips

[35:32] that alien abductees have

[35:33] where they don't remember something

[35:34] oh

[35:35] so there would be times

[35:35] the characters would refer

[35:37] to something that happened

[35:38] and I'd be like

[35:38] I don't remember that

[35:39] happening in the movie

[35:40] and I think it's because

[35:41] it didn't happen in the movie

[35:42] you know

[35:42] right

[35:43] yeah

[35:43] or it happened in a cut scene

[35:44] or something like that

S3

[35:45] I did appreciate though

[35:47] because when George came in

[35:48] I was like

[35:48] who's this guy

[35:49] I really appreciated

[35:50] Patricia's phone call

[35:51] where she said

[35:52] you know that guy

[35:53] that was at the party

[35:54] who kept talking

[35:55] a bunch of bullshit

[35:56] he's here

[35:57] I was like

[35:58] okay

Stuart Wellington

[35:58] thank you

[35:59] yeah

[35:59] this is an established

[36:00] constant in this world

S3

[36:03] because the rule is

[36:03] you can't expository yourself

[36:05] right

[36:05] you can't have exposition

[36:06] related to yourself

[36:07] hey Alex

Elliott Kalan

[36:07] it's me your friend George

[36:08] I'm into conspiracy stuff

[36:10] I was at your party

[36:10] spouting some bullshit

[36:11] you know

[36:11] exactly

[36:12] feels awkward

[36:13] coming from him

S3

[36:14] exposition George

[36:15] could not take that one

[36:16] but he

[36:16] he serves his time

[36:18] later in the film

Elliott Kalan

[36:19] so

[36:20] this reminds me

[36:20] that's the kind of question

[36:21] a kid asks

[36:22] in Sunday school

[36:23] it's like

[36:24] could exposition George

[36:25] ever deliver exposition

[36:26] about himself

[36:27] on senior

[36:28] no

[36:28] well

[36:29] there's no limits

[36:30] to his power of exposition

[36:31] but you know

[36:32] it's at the same time

[36:33] yeah

Stuart Wellington

[36:34] so around now

[36:37] they all team together

[36:38] and despite their differences

[36:39] they decide

[36:40] we're gonna go

[36:41] try and find Tatiana

[36:43] and get to the bottom

[36:43] of these

[36:44] alien conspiracy theories

[36:46] yeah

[36:47] and I believe

[36:47] their

[36:48] you guys can correct me

[36:49] I believe

[36:49] their first stop

[36:50] is they have to

[36:52] meet a

[36:53] internet acquaintance

[36:55] of George

[36:55] named Tom

[36:56] and apparently

[36:57] pick up some

[36:58] Bakersfield meth

[36:59] I guess

[36:59] yes

[37:00] so they

[37:02] they hop in there

[37:03] do they already have the RV

[37:05] no they buy the RV

[37:06] the RV they buy

Elliott Kalan

[37:06] once they get

[37:07] to Morocco

Dan McCoy

[37:08] and someone makes

[37:08] oh they buy it

[37:10] in Morocco

[37:11] well

[37:11] just cause it's mentioned

[37:12] someone makes a

[37:13] are we going to Wally

[37:14] world joke

[37:15] I'm like that was a

[37:16] that was a

[37:17] station wagon

[37:18] let's get our jokes

Stuart Wellington

[37:20] correct here

[37:21] there is a

[37:21] there is a Wally world

[37:22] in Morocco though

[37:24] so

[37:24] that's why they're asking

[37:25] about it

[37:26] because Wally world

Elliott Kalan

[37:26] Morocco is actually

[37:27] the only one

[37:28] still in operation

[37:28] the only one

[37:29] still in operation

Stuart Wellington

[37:29] yeah

[37:30] so

[37:31] but you're right Dan

[37:32] I also

[37:33] I also bristled

[37:33] yeah it was bad

Elliott Kalan

[37:35] cause there's not a lot

[37:36] of jokes in this movie

[37:37] so it felt very weird

[37:38] for them to suddenly

[37:39] make one

[37:39] to have it be a reference

[37:41] to an older movie

[37:42] and also for that

[37:43] reference to not be

[37:44] accurate to what

[37:45] they're driving

[37:45] it would make more

[37:46] sense for them to make

[37:47] like a Spaceballs

[37:48] reference

[37:48] you know something

[37:49] with a Winnebago

Dan McCoy

[37:51] or everyone's favorite

[37:51] movie RV

[37:52] you know that big hit

[37:53] RV

[37:53] everyone's favorite

[37:54] yeah

[37:55] give me the

[37:56] give me the top

[37:57] four cast

[37:58] well Robin Williams

[38:00] was in RV

[38:01] okay so he's probably

[38:02] number one

[38:02] and Barry Sonnenfeld

[38:03] directed it

[38:04] not in the cast

[38:05] and we have reached

[38:06] the limits of my RV

[38:08] knowledge

[38:08] okay so

Stuart Wellington

[38:11] that's the poster

[38:12] you don't know a lot

Stuart Wellington

[38:12] considering that's

[38:12] everyone's favorite movie

[38:13] by according to the polls

[38:15] let me guess

[38:15] so I'm just gonna

[38:16] paint a picture

[38:17] of what the poster

[38:17] probably looks like

[38:19] we have the title

[38:20] obviously you gotta

[38:21] have the title

[38:21] on the poster

[38:22] isn't it like

Dan McCoy

[38:22] the RV like

[38:23] tipping off the side

[38:25] of like a cliff

[38:25] or something

[38:26] it's on like a giant

[38:26] folder or something

[38:27] here I'm gonna look it up

Stuart Wellington

[38:28] yeah yeah

[38:29] it's on a giant

[38:29] he's out

Dan McCoy

[38:30] it's a big headed

Elliott Kalan

[38:32] Robin Williams

[38:32] I'm picturing

[38:33] no no

[38:33] if this was a movie

[38:35] from the 60s

[38:36] and Jack Davis

[38:36] did the poster

[38:37] it's an RV

[38:40] that is balanced

[38:41] precariously

[38:41] on the point

[38:42] of a mountain

Stuart Wellington

[38:43] now wait

[38:44] is this the one

[38:45] where Steve Carell's

[38:46] head is on a plate

[38:47] covered in syrup

[38:48] like it's pancakes

[38:49] Dan in real life

[38:49] I believe

[38:50] oh yeah

[38:51] Dan in real life

[38:52] speaking of Dan's

[38:53] in real life

[38:53] we watched a movie

Elliott Kalan

[38:54] so Dan

[38:55] here's the rest

[38:56] of the cast

[38:56] of RV

[38:56] so there's also

[38:58] Jeff Daniels

[39:00] Cheryl Hines

[39:01] Christian Chenoweth

[39:02] Will Arnett

[39:02] a lot of people

[39:03] in this one

[39:04] wow yeah

[39:04] yeah

Stuart Wellington

[39:05] yeah okay

[39:05] that's five

[39:07] that's five stars

[39:08] okay

Elliott Kalan

[39:08] I will say

[39:09] I've read

[39:09] I think both

[39:10] of Barry Sonnenfeld's

[39:11] memoirs

[39:12] I don't remember

[39:12] him talking about

[39:13] RV particularly

[39:14] in them

Dan McCoy

[39:15] okay

[39:15] what did he say

[39:16] about Nine Lives

[39:17] I don't think

Stuart Wellington

[39:18] he doesn't touch

[39:19] that one either

[39:21] about

[39:23] about Joan Cusack

[39:24] in Adam's Family Values

Elliott Kalan

[39:26] he doesn't talk

[39:28] much about

[39:28] Adam's Family Values

[39:29] in the ones I've read

[39:30] maybe I've only read

[39:31] the first one

[39:31] he talks a lot about

[39:32] damn shame

[39:33] throws his copy

[39:34] in the garbage

[39:35] surprisingly a fair amount

[39:36] about Wild Wild West

Stuart Wellington

[39:37] more than you would expect

[39:38] yeah I mean

[39:39] I feel like that

[39:40] probably looms

[39:40] large in his brain

[39:42] okay so

[39:44] speaking of stars

[39:45] this is where we reach

[39:47] star of the

[39:48] silver screen himself

[39:50] Eric Roberts

[39:51] playing the character

[39:52] Tom

[39:53] who is

[39:54] is wearing

[39:55] some kind

[39:55] of hybrid

[39:56] duster thing

[39:57] and a very

[39:58] clean pair

[39:58] of Timbalands

[39:59] and

[40:00] Eric Roberts

[40:01] brought his own

[40:02] wardrobe

[40:03] to the set

Elliott Kalan

[40:03] that's his outfit

[40:04] for sure

Stuart Wellington

[40:05] yeah

[40:05] they actually

[40:06] just pass him

[40:07] on the street

[40:07] and were like

[40:08] hey you want

[40:08] to make a movie

[40:09] get in

[40:09] I'm not doing

[40:11] anything tonight

Dan McCoy

[40:12] sure I'll be in your movie

[40:12] well I've got a movie

[40:14] at 11 that I'm shooting

[40:15] and one

[40:16] I can sneak this in

[40:17] at 3

S3

[40:17] I just finished

[40:19] shooting a movie

[40:19] and I have another one

[40:20] in 3 hours

[40:20] yeah

[40:21] but if I can wear

[40:22] the same outfit

[40:22] and I can make sure

[40:24] that everyone knows

[40:24] that I have lots of sex

[40:26] in the first

[40:26] 45 seconds

[40:28] of my appearance

[40:29] that will do it

Stuart Wellington

[40:31] yeah so he

[40:32] he brings a real

[40:33] intense energy

[40:34] that this movie

[40:35] was honestly lacking

[40:37] yeah

[40:37] and we

[40:38] he shows them

[40:39] his hidden little base

[40:40] that's in a junkyard

[40:41] where he has

[40:43] what fabricated

[40:44] some kind of

[40:44] alien spaceship

[40:45] yes

[40:46] this doesn't really

[40:47] go anywhere

[40:47] and then he

[40:48] he kind of

[40:49] turns on them

[40:50] and starts attacking them

[40:51] and they escape

[40:53] while he

[40:53] fires

[40:54] gunshots

[40:55] at them

[40:56] and it's revealed

[40:57] that he

[40:58] most likely

[40:59] is a human being

[41:00] who has been

[41:01] brainwashed

[41:02] by aliens

[41:03] is that correct

Elliott Kalan

[41:03] and he was like

[41:04] working for the government

[41:05] making a spaceship

[41:06] but then the funding

[41:07] got cut or something

[41:08] but he got to keep

[41:09] the spaceship

[41:09] which does not seem

[41:10] to me the way

[41:11] the government

[41:12] would operate normally

[41:13] I feel like

[41:14] yeah

Dan McCoy

[41:14] I was trying to

[41:15] understand

[41:16] the scene

[41:17] and then

[41:17] that's a mistake

[41:18] yeah well I got to

[41:19] the end of the movie

[41:20] I'm like

[41:20] oh

[41:21] whatever was happening

[41:22] never gets cleared up

[41:25] so it wasn't important

S3

[41:26] but George

[41:28] makes sure

[41:28] that you know

[41:29] that it's reverse

[41:30] engineering

[41:30] that's the one thing

[41:31] that you make sure

[41:32] that you know in it

[41:33] and also I guess

[41:35] so

[41:36] yeah

[41:37] it doesn't really

[41:38] ever get cleared up

[41:39] but there's

[41:39] it's the government

[41:40] not aliens

[41:41] but the government

[41:42] is in cahoots

[41:44] with aliens

[41:44] or the government

Elliott Kalan

[41:45] has been collecting

[41:46] alien stuff

[41:47] because they're like

[41:48] Roswell was just

[41:48] the beginning

[41:49] you know

[41:49] something like that

Stuart Wellington

[41:50] yeah I mean

[41:50] I feel like there's

[41:51] now

[41:52] I think

[41:53] let's pause the movie

[41:55] because I think

[41:56] I think this is

[41:57] an important time

[41:58] for us to talk about

[41:59] alien conspiracy theories

[42:01] and how they're tied

[42:02] in with the government

[42:02] first off

[42:03] do you guys

[42:04] now no judgments here

[42:05] this is a judgment free zone

[42:06] do you guys believe

[42:08] in aliens

[42:08] yes

[42:09] okay

[42:10] like Dan

[42:11] uh

[42:12] first off I like

[42:13] uh

[42:13] your energy

S3

[42:14] look I'm an actor

[42:16] I've got fuck all to lose

[42:17] you know

Dan McCoy

[42:17] I was delaying

[42:20] because I'm like

[42:20] did Dan Aykroyd

[42:21] like

[42:22] like bribe Stuart

[42:24] to bring this topic up

[42:25] or what

[42:25] well

Stuart Wellington

[42:26] I feel like so much

[42:28] it's built on that idea

[42:29] of

[42:30] like this is

[42:31] like the whole idea

[42:32] of

[42:33] the faith

[42:34] in that aliens exist

[42:35] and also that there is

[42:36] another entity

[42:38] that is keeping aliens

[42:39] from us

[42:40] yeah

Elliott Kalan

[42:40] that there's a cover up

[42:41] involved

[42:42] not just that aliens exist

[42:43] but also that

[42:44] for whatever reason

[42:45] is covering up

[42:46] that existence

[42:47] yeah

[42:47] for the average person

Stuart Wellington

[42:48] for instance

[42:49] I can believe

[42:50] and accept the idea

[42:51] that there is

[42:52] alien life out there

[42:53] it is most likely

[42:54] not hyper advanced

[42:56] while also being

[42:57] hyper tough

[42:58] and animalistic

[42:59] well that's

[43:00] that's

[43:01] we get to later

Elliott Kalan

[43:02] I have the same issue

[43:02] I have a lot of

[43:03] alien movies

[43:04] okay so they build

[43:05] spaceships that can travel

[43:07] interstellar distances

[43:08] and they do these

[43:09] science experiments

[43:09] but they don't wear clothes

[43:11] they don't seem to have

[43:12] a language

[43:12] they're just claw monsters

[43:13] with teeth

[43:14] that eat things

[43:15] that just run after people

[43:16] and tear them apart

[43:17] and eat them

[43:18] yes

[43:18] they're also somehow

[43:19] able to build all this stuff

[43:21] and have science

[43:22] you know

S3

[43:22] and also want to fuck with us

[43:23] you know what I mean

[43:24] if you can do all that

[43:25] like

[43:26] so

[43:27] similarly

Dan McCoy

[43:27] I believe

[43:29] like there's probably

[43:30] alien life out

[43:31] in the universe

[43:32] but does it exist

[43:34] in the same

[43:35] can it get to us

[43:36] in the same window

[43:37] of

[43:38] you know

[43:39] galactic time

[43:42] like

[43:42] the age of the universe

[43:44] that we humans

[43:45] are

[43:46] existing in

[43:47] I don't think so

[43:48] probably

Stuart Wellington

[43:49] so the

[43:49] but the thing that I

[43:50] have more trouble

[43:52] accepting

[43:52] is the idea

[43:53] that aliens exist

[43:54] they have attempted

[43:55] contact with humans

[43:56] and that the United States

[43:57] government

[43:58] and I guess

[43:59] around the world

[44:00] is very good

[44:01] at kind of

[44:02] hiding that information

[44:03] from us

Elliott Kalan

[44:03] now what is it about

[44:04] because I feel like

[44:05] we live in a period

[44:06] of extreme

[44:07] government competence

[44:08] what is it about

[44:09] the world we live in

[44:11] that would make you think

[44:12] wouldn't be able

[44:12] to pull this off

[44:13] you know

Stuart Wellington

[44:14] yeah I don't know

[44:15] I think

[44:15] yeah there's just

[44:16] I just had this feeling

[44:18] that the people in charge

[44:19] I don't know

[44:19] maybe

[44:19] I've just like

[44:20] picked this up

[44:21] over my years

[44:22] of working

[44:22] that like

[44:23] you know

[44:24] I feel like

[44:24] the people in charge

[44:25] actually don't really

[44:26] know fucking anything

Elliott Kalan

[44:27] I think

[44:28] there's a

[44:29] it feels

Stuart Wellington

[44:29] they're all just

[44:30] self-interested weirdos

[44:32] just doing their own thing

[44:33] I think that's a big part of it

Elliott Kalan

[44:33] they're self-interested weirdos

[44:35] also

[44:35] there would be

[44:36] so much

[44:37] like

[44:38] it would need

[44:39] so much cooperation

[44:40] and so much

[44:41] the same way that

[44:41] people are like

[44:42] the government killed

[44:43] John F. Kennedy

[44:45] pretty unlikely

[44:46] that we wouldn't have

[44:47] heard about it

[44:48] in some form

[44:49] up to this point

[44:49] like

[44:50] there's a

[44:51] it's very

[44:52] that people are like

[44:53] yeah I'm going to

[44:53] take this secret

[44:54] with me

[44:54] to my grave

[44:55] like people don't

[44:56] maybe people used to do that

[44:57] but nowadays it's like

[44:58] can I get a book deal

[44:59] off of this

[44:59] can I get on TV

[45:00] from this

[45:01] you know

Dan McCoy

[45:01] also back in the days

[45:02] when scandals

[45:03] took down presidents

[45:06] botched a fucking break-in

[45:08] a thing that should have been

[45:09] just easy

[45:10] to get away with

[45:11] and they didn't do it

[45:12] so

[45:13] I don't think they're going to

[45:14] keep the alien secret

Stuart Wellington

[45:15] where is the deep

[45:16] deep politics

[45:17] part of the podcast

[45:18] yeah yeah

[45:18] this is when we turn into

[45:19] we turn into a

[45:20] now it's

[45:21] now suddenly it's like

[45:22] a Vox podcast

[45:23] yeah we're the

[45:23] Chapo Flophouse

[45:24] the

[45:25] but yeah

[45:26] the idea that like

[45:27] yeah if there were

[45:28] if the government had access

[45:30] to a whole bunch of aliens

[45:30] you know there would be

[45:32] like a Slack channel

[45:33] of these nutsacks

[45:34] sending pictures of dead aliens

[45:36] with like

[45:36] a fucking tag like

[45:38] oh look at this

[45:39] LOL

[45:39] like that kind of shit

[45:40] and they'd accidentally send it to the wrong person

Elliott Kalan

[45:43] they'd add a reporter

[45:45] to that Slack channel

[45:47] or some kind of

[45:48] mid-level contractor

[45:50] would tell the people

[45:50] that he Twitch

[45:51] video game plays with

[45:53] that he's got aliens

[45:54] in his garage

[45:56] you know

[45:56] it would not be a secret anymore

[45:57] for sure

[45:58] but also the idea

[45:59] there's

[46:00] the idea in the past

[46:01] would be like

[46:01] oh the government is

[46:02] using the alien technology

[46:04] and doesn't want people

[46:05] to know where it came from

[46:05] and that's why we have

[46:06] microwave ovens

[46:08] and yet I've

[46:09] yet to

[46:10] unless our technology

[46:11] is a plan by aliens

[46:13] to ruin our lives

[46:14] so that they can then

[46:15] take over that much more easily

[46:17] it seems like

[46:17] the technology we have

[46:18] is not so impressive

[46:19] that we need aliens to get

[46:20] yeah they were like

Stuart Wellington

[46:21] let's create pyramids

[46:22] so humans can fuck up their lives

Elliott Kalan

[46:24] I mean that's the other way

[46:27] they're like

[46:28] how could all these different races

[46:29] invent pyramids

[46:30] it must be aliens

[46:31] like pretty

[46:31] just stack stuff on each other

[46:33] and you have a thick base

[46:34] at the bottom

[46:34] and you know

[46:35] triangles are the most

[46:36] stable shape

[46:37] it's an organized pile

[46:37] if you're building something

[46:39] and gravity is involved

[46:40] like you're gonna get a pyramid

[46:41] that's what's gonna happen

[46:42] also they don't

Stuart Wellington

[46:43] they don't have like

[46:44] a million fucking things

[46:46] shooting into their eyeballs

[46:47] from their phone every day

[46:48] they can just focus on

[46:50] building one thing

[46:51] also they enslaved

[46:52] a bunch of people

Elliott Kalan

[46:53] that was the other half

[46:54] not all pyramids

[46:55] were built by slaves

[46:56] Dan

[46:56] hashtag not all pyramids

Dan McCoy

[46:58] thank you for correcting

[47:01] the thing that I didn't say

[47:03] okay

Elliott Kalan

[47:05] but yeah so I think

[47:06] we can all agree

[47:06] that in real life

[47:07] we probably don't believe

[47:08] that the government

[47:08] is necessarily doing it

[47:10] covering it up

[47:10] because they're doing

[47:11] too good a job

[47:12] if they are

[47:12] yeah

Stuart Wellington

[47:12] so now

[47:13] back to the movie

[47:14] now that they've escaped

[47:15] from Tom

[47:15] they realize that the men

[47:16] in black

[47:17] they should have called

[47:17] this movie

[47:18] escape from Tom

[47:18] they've escaped from Tom

[47:23] and they realize

[47:24] that they're being

[47:25] followed by men in black

[47:26] which they're like

[47:28] you know

[47:29] I might be going crazy

[47:30] but I think this van

[47:31] is following us

[47:32] I'm like that's not a van

[47:33] that's an SUV

[47:33] once again

[47:34] misidentification

[47:36] of vehicles

Elliott Kalan

[47:37] technically an SUV

[47:39] is a light truck

[47:40] for regulation purposes

[47:41] the director

Dan McCoy

[47:42] has car blindness

[47:43] yeah

Elliott Kalan

[47:43] so

[47:46] sir can you tell us

[47:47] about the car

[47:47] that hit your car

[47:49] with the hit and run

[47:49] I can't

[47:50] I can't

Stuart Wellington

[47:51] it's probably

[47:53] got four wheels

[47:55] probably

[47:56] probably

[47:57] okay

[47:58] so they realize

[47:59] that the men in black

[48:00] are on their trail

[48:01] so they need to

[48:02] they need to

[48:02] they need to hide themselves

[48:03] so I think this is when

[48:05] they all go shopping

[48:07] and they go to the mall

[48:08] and they go

[48:09] buy some new clothes

Elliott Kalan

[48:10] wait

[48:10] talking

[48:11] speaking of Barry Seinfeld

[48:12] I will say

[48:12] if the government

[48:13] is covering up aliens

[48:14] we weren't

[48:15] then when we were earlier

[48:16] that

[48:16] one of the most

[48:18] brilliant psyops

[48:19] that the government

[48:19] then could have pulled off

[48:20] is to turn men in black

[48:22] from a sinister presence

[48:23] whose job is to

[48:24] keep people ignorant

[48:25] into a lovable presence

[48:26] whose job is to

[48:27] protect humanity

[48:28] from bad aliens

[48:29] which is

[48:29] in the old stories

[48:30] was never what they were

[48:31] they were always just about

[48:32] destroying evidence

[48:34] of UFOs

[48:35] but they

[48:35] and intimidating people

[48:36] like

[48:37] and intimidating people

[48:38] yeah

[48:38] whereas in the

[48:39] in the movies

[48:40] thanks to Hollywood

[48:41] thanks to Hollywood

[48:42] now men in black

[48:44] are lovable

[48:44] Will Smith guys

[48:45] Elliot's just burning

Stuart Wellington

[48:46] his career to the ground

[48:47] right now

[48:48] I'm saying that

S3

[48:50] Hollywood and the government

[48:51] are working together

[48:52] to

[48:53] well maybe that's what

[48:54] Gino McCoy was really after

[48:56] was to sort of like

[48:56] retake

[48:57] the lore

[48:59] of men in black

[49:00] and turn it into

[49:00] something menacing

[49:01] that was a very good shot

[49:03] as down that street

[49:05] first of all

[49:05] I was like

[49:07] they're on that street

[49:07] but it was a pretty cool shot

[49:09] of the lone

[49:11] man in black

[49:12] standing there

Stuart Wellington

[49:13] yeah

[49:13] the mysterious

[49:14] man in black

[49:14] just standing next to

[49:15] an SUV

[49:16] yeah

[49:16] I was like

[49:17] oh that's spooky

[49:18] yeah

[49:18] how'd he get there

[49:19] probably the SUV

[49:22] yeah

[49:23] he took an Uber

[49:24] and then he waited

[49:27] for the Uber to leave

[49:27] to pose menacingly

[49:29] so

[49:29] he's like

[49:29] get out of here

[49:30] get out of here

[49:31] I gotta pose

[49:31] I might be slightly

[49:32] the timing here

[49:33] might be wrong for me

[49:35] because my brain

[49:35] got a little muddled

[49:36] at some point

[49:37] they fly to Morocco

[49:38] yes

[49:39] was that before

[49:40] or after Tatiana's

Dan McCoy

[49:41] or Tatiana's parents

[49:42] in Morocco

[49:42] Tatiana's parents

Elliott Kalan

[49:44] are in Morocco

[49:44] oh

[49:45] that's why

S3

[49:46] they look like

[49:46] they live in a medieval

[49:47] times building

[49:48] yes

[49:49] you know

[49:50] we should go see

Elliott Kalan

[49:51] Tatiana's parents

[49:52] we gotta go to Morocco

[49:53] and they did shoot

[49:53] in Morocco

[49:54] so

[49:55] give the movie credit

[49:56] for that

[49:56] on location

[49:57] I like that

S3

[49:58] we don't see

[49:58] anything about them

[49:59] flying

[50:00] but we see them

[50:00] at a fucking

[50:01] grocery store

[50:02] you know what I mean

[50:03] like they're coming out

[50:04] of the mall

[50:05] but we don't

Stuart Wellington

[50:06] get any sense

[50:07] we do see one

[50:07] we do have some

[50:09] footage of an

[50:09] airplane flying

[50:10] right

Elliott Kalan

[50:11] yeah

[50:12] but I think

[50:13] they hired another

[50:14] plane to shoot

[50:15] that plane

[50:15] no of course

[50:16] they did not

Stuart Wellington

[50:16] okay so they meet

[50:18] with Tatiana's parents

[50:19] who are obviously

[50:20] broken up

[50:20] but they also

[50:21] add some context

[50:22] that Tatiana

[50:23] has always had

[50:25] of being abducted

[50:26] by aliens

[50:26] here's some art

[50:28] she drew

[50:28] from her memories

[50:29] of her being

[50:31] strapped to a table

[50:32] it was pretty funny

[50:33] when they show

[50:33] the piece of child's art

[50:34] that's from her memories

[50:36] yeah that was pretty

Dan McCoy

[50:37] funny yeah

[50:37] there's a line in here

[50:39] that I know

[50:39] Ashley also

[50:40] had a problem

[50:41] with

[50:41] I was so mad

[50:42] where the mom's like

[50:43] how is any of this

[50:44] gonna help find our daughter

[50:45] and like what

[50:46] this is like literally

[50:47] directly gonna lead

[50:50] to where your daughter is

S3

[50:51] yeah George is like

[50:52] did she ever describe

[50:53] this

[50:54] this

[50:54] you know

[50:55] secret underground

[50:56] the dumb

[50:57] and

[50:58] her dad's like

[50:59] yes

[51:00] for the time

[51:01] she was missing

[51:01] the longest

[51:02] and then the mother

[51:03] just exhorts

[51:04] you know

[51:05] what is this gonna do

[51:06] to help find her

[51:07] it's like

[51:07] bitch that's the first

[51:09] solid lead

[51:10] there's been

[51:10] all fucking movie

[51:12] are you serious

Elliott Kalan

[51:13] this is what we wish

[51:14] we could have told

[51:15] that English police officer

[51:16] who works in Los Angeles

[51:17] on an exchange program

[51:18] of some kind

[51:19] yeah

Stuart Wellington

[51:19] that would have been

[51:20] a real lead

[51:21] it would have been great

[51:22] if he showed up

[51:22] in Morocco

[51:23] wearing like

[51:24] a big like

[51:24] Panama hat

Elliott Kalan

[51:25] yeah yeah

Stuart Wellington

[51:28] all like

[51:29] Lawrence of Arabia

Elliott Kalan

[51:29] this scene

[51:31] with the parents

[51:31] I mean so many

[51:32] scenes this movie

[51:33] the Eric Roberts

[51:34] scene

[51:34] a lot of conversations

[51:35] it feels

[51:36] I had so much trouble

[51:37] my mind had so much trouble

[51:38] gripping

[51:39] what was going on

[51:40] like holding on

[51:41] to the dialogue

[51:41] or picking up information

[51:43] because it's so

[51:44] elliptically

[51:46] some would say

[51:47] poorly

[51:47] written

[51:48] and information

[51:50] is suddenly

[51:50] dropped on you

[51:52] without any lead up

[51:53] or anything like that

[51:54] but then the conversations

[51:55] otherwise

[51:55] will just kind of like

[51:56] circle the drain

[51:58] of actual

[51:58] actual talk

[51:59] it was very

[52:01] if you guys

[52:01] are having this trouble

[52:02] but I felt like

[52:03] I'd watch a scene

[52:04] and halfway through the scene

[52:05] I'd be like

[52:05] I don't

[52:06] that I'm registering

[52:06] any of this

[52:07] like it just kind of

[52:08] feels like

[52:08] like I'm walking

[52:10] through a haze of words

[52:11] that don't quite make sense

[52:13] yeah okay

S3

[52:13] I agree

[52:13] but I also thought

[52:14] maybe that's Los Angeles

[52:15] I've definitely had meetings

[52:17] with my agents in LA

[52:18] that felt very similar to that

[52:21] where I walked away going

[52:23] I don't think I got

[52:24] any concrete information

[52:25] out of that

[52:26] yeah

Stuart Wellington

[52:27] so while in Morocco

[52:29] they stop at a gas station

[52:30] and they buy an RV

[52:31] Alex buys an RV

[52:32] while Delilah

[52:33] and Patricia

[52:35] get in an argument

[52:36] where they're like

[52:37] kind of accusing

[52:38] each other

[52:39] of trying to

[52:40] take advantage of Alex

[52:41] and his money

Elliott Kalan

[52:42] and so Delilah

[52:43] has made it very clear

[52:44] to Patricia

[52:44] that she's going to

[52:46] play along with Alex's

[52:47] fears about aliens

[52:48] because she sees this

[52:49] as the way to get

[52:50] become his new girlfriend

S3

[52:51] he's such a catch

[52:53] at this point

[52:53] and he's such a catch

Elliott Kalan

[52:54] the guy who

[52:55] I mean he's shaved his beard

[52:56] at this point

[52:56] so he lost the one thing

[52:57] that was great about him

[52:58] but this guy

[53:00] who has spent months

[53:01] sitting around a pool

[53:02] pining for

[53:03] his disappeared girlfriend

[53:04] and is now kind of

[53:06] driven in this

[53:07] obsessive way

[53:08] to make everyone

[53:09] fly to Morocco

[53:09] and drive around

[53:10] in the desert

[53:11] in an RV

[53:11] she's like

[53:11] I gotta keep this guy

[53:13] like I gotta get with him

[53:15] you know

Stuart Wellington

[53:15] well I mean

[53:15] at least he's got hobbies

[53:17] you know

[53:17] he's got something

[53:18] going on

S3

[53:19] right he's interesting

[53:20] he's not just playing

[53:21] video games

[53:21] yeah he's not just

[53:22] playing Elden Ring

[53:23] definitely like a

[53:24] Timu Justin Thoreau

[53:26] at that point

[53:26] like they've really

[53:27] got him squared down

Stuart Wellington

[53:30] Timu Justin Thoreau

[53:33] I feel like that's

[53:33] like a whole

[53:34] type of man

[53:35] definitely

[53:36] okay so

[53:38] they ride around

[53:40] in the desert

[53:41] for a little bit

[53:41] they stop

[53:43] at a desert

[53:44] oasis

[53:44] wait

[53:45] did you skip

Dan McCoy

[53:46] the part though

[53:46] where they go

[53:47] the two girls

[53:48] go into the

[53:49] place

[53:50] they find a woman

[53:50] who like

[53:52] laughs at

[53:52] like an elderly woman

[53:53] just looks at them

[53:55] and does a creepy laugh

[53:56] for a long time

[53:57] and they both

[53:57] kind of just look

[53:58] at each other

[53:58] and back out of the room

[53:59] and then get up and leave

[54:00] they reacted like

Stuart Wellington

[54:01] they went to

[54:02] a haunted house

[54:03] and that was the

[54:04] like

[54:05] oh what a wacky

[54:06] experience

[54:07] okay now for the

[54:08] hey ride

[54:08] I would be much more

Elliott Kalan

[54:10] disquieted by that

[54:10] I don't know what

[54:11] they expected

[54:11] when they went

[54:12] into the building

[54:13] what they expected

[54:14] to have happened

[54:15] why that happened

[54:17] why they

[54:17] you know

S3

[54:18] I think they're very

[54:19] it's one of those

[54:20] moments where it's like

[54:21] there's fully

[54:22] 25 to 30 seconds

[54:23] given to why they go in

[54:24] which is to get out

[54:25] of the heat

[54:26] I didn't need

[54:27] that information

[54:27] they could have

[54:29] just gone in

[54:30] and had this

[54:30] experience

[54:31] but then they come out

[54:32] and you get the sense

[54:33] that those scenes

[54:34] right next to each other

[54:35] were filmed

[54:36] months apart

[54:37] right

[54:37] because they just

[54:39] giggle

[54:39] on their way out

[54:41] like they've been

[54:42] in a tickle fight

[54:42] you know

Elliott Kalan

[54:43] I will say

[54:45] and I'll give

[54:46] that's some good

[54:47] direction by the way

[54:48] so pretend

[54:49] like imagine

[54:50] you're in a tickle fight

[54:52] you've been in a tickle fight

[54:53] before

[54:53] so just take yourself

[54:54] back there

[54:55] your motivation

[54:56] your motivation

[54:56] is that you've just

[54:57] left a tickle fight

[54:58] you're a little wistful

[54:59] that it's over

[55:00] but you're also

[55:00] physically glad

[55:01] it's over

[55:02] because you just

[55:02] can't laugh that hard

[55:03] anymore

[55:04] from the tickling

S3

[55:05] a little side aching

[55:06] but grateful

Elliott Kalan

[55:07] for the experience

[55:08] exactly

[55:09] I will say

[55:10] if this scene

[55:11] had happened

[55:11] in a different

[55:12] kind of movie

[55:12] I'd be like

[55:13] love this scene

[55:14] if this was

[55:15] if this was some

[55:16] kind of eastern

[55:16] european horror movie

[55:17] I'd be like

[55:18] I love this scene

[55:18] where they walk

[55:19] in an old lady

[55:19] just laughs at them

[55:20] and they walk out again

Stuart Wellington

[55:21] but in this movie

[55:23] it didn't quite work

[55:23] for me

[55:24] that's too bad

[55:25] okay so

[55:26] again

[55:27] there was

[55:28] there's definitely

[55:28] a moment

[55:29] at night

[55:29] where they are

[55:30] arguing about

[55:31] an aux cable

[55:32] and they need

[55:33] to play some music

[55:34] I can't remember

[55:34] if this happens

[55:35] before or after

[55:36] they all of a sudden

[55:38] George is outside

[55:39] of the vehicle

[55:40] and he runs over

[55:41] and they find this

[55:43] desert oasis

[55:44] thing at night

[55:44] I think it's after

[55:45] the oasis

[55:46] because the aux cable

[55:47] leads to

[55:48] the song starts playing

Elliott Kalan

[55:49] and they have

[55:50] to sing along

[55:51] yeah

[55:52] we didn't ask

[55:53] for this song

[55:53] but it's kind of catchy

[55:54] and it's clearly

[55:55] another Gino McCoy

[55:56] banger

[55:56] 100%

Dan McCoy

[55:57] I went through

[55:58] a rollercoaster

[55:59] of emotions

[55:59] during the scene

[56:00] because at first

[56:01] I'm like

[56:01] why are we spending

[56:02] so much time

[56:03] on whether they

[56:03] have an aux cable

[56:04] to play music

[56:05] just play some music

[56:06] and then I'm like

[56:07] oh it's to set up

[56:08] the fact that

[56:08] he's going to play

[56:09] another one of his songs

[56:09] and then at first

[56:11] all the characters

[56:12] don't like the song

[56:13] oh Gino McCoy

[56:15] you're being honest

[56:15] or at least humble

Elliott Kalan

[56:17] at once

[56:18] no but they love

[56:19] they really get into it

[56:20] but then they get into it

[56:21] they turn around

Dan McCoy

[56:22] you know what

[56:22] this is the greatest song

[56:23] I've ever heard

S3

[56:24] I wondered if that screech

[56:26] right before it

[56:26] that happens

[56:27] is sort of like

[56:27] a mind control thing

[56:29] that makes them

[56:30] really love the song

[56:31] because there is that

[56:32] really discordant sound

[56:33] that comes out

[56:34] yeah

[56:36] ooh that's cool

[56:36] the radio waves

[56:38] are being controlled

[56:39] by what's ever

[56:39] in the air

[56:40] it really feels like

[56:40] it's setting you up

Elliott Kalan

[56:41] for the aliens

[56:42] to attack in that moment

[56:43] but it's setting you up

[56:44] for this song

[56:45] which then is like

[56:46] so is he saying

[56:47] the music

[56:47] a different kind of attack

[56:48] the music

[56:48] comes from the aliens

[56:49] is that what it is

Stuart Wellington

[56:50] yeah yeah

[56:50] it's Serving with the Aliens

[56:52] by Joe Satriani

[56:52] that's what a sexy girl is

[56:54] so yeah

[56:55] maybe this track

[56:56] is actually like

[56:57] that loud sound

[56:58] it was like

[56:59] the bonus hidden track

[57:01] at the end of the last track

[57:02] on Gina McCoy's record

[57:03] where like

[57:04] on that last song

[57:05] after you listen

[57:05] to the last song

[57:06] you then like

[57:07] wait 20 minutes

[57:08] and then there's like

[57:09] a crazy sound

[57:10] and then you get

[57:10] a bonus secret song

[57:11] yeah

[57:12] that's what people love

[57:13] right

[57:13] people love that shit

Elliott Kalan

[57:13] or here's my read

[57:14] of the rest of this movie

[57:15] that screech

[57:16] that's the moment

[57:17] when their van crashed

[57:18] because they were so busy

[57:19] looking about oxygen

[57:20] but the rest of the movie

[57:21] is them in the last moments

[57:22] what they imagine

[57:23] before they die

[57:24] you know

[57:24] yeah

Stuart Wellington

[57:25] it's a real loss

[57:26] the morphine dream

[57:27] that's great

[57:28] yeah

[57:29] okay so

[57:30] at one point

[57:30] they stop

[57:31] at a nighttime

[57:32] desert oasis

[57:33] they meet up

[57:34] with a weird

[57:35] hippie couple

[57:35] Sonny and Cher

[57:36] who convince Alex

[57:37] to take his clothes off

[57:39] and go

[57:39] kind of skinny dipping

[57:41] for a moment

[57:42] and then they leave

Elliott Kalan

[57:43] these characters

[57:43] again

[57:44] this is where the movie

[57:45] almost becomes

[57:46] a movie

[57:47] I can respect

[57:48] on a B-movie level

[57:48] it makes no sense

[57:50] it's dumb

[57:50] the Sonny character

[57:51] just grunts

[57:52] he's like a caveman

[57:53] wearing clothes

[57:54] and the Cher character

[57:55] for no reason

[57:57] pretty much

[57:57] takes off her dress

[57:58] and goes get in this water

[57:59] with me

[57:59] we gotta get into the water

[58:00] and it doesn't

[58:03] these characters show up later

[58:04] and it doesn't mean anything

[58:05] when they show up later either

[58:06] but the nonsensical

[58:07] cartoonish quality

[58:09] of these characters

[58:09] it's like

[58:10] oh yeah

[58:11] we're Sonny

[58:11] I'm Sonny

[58:12] this is Cher

[58:12] and I'm Cher

[58:13] this is Sonny

[58:14] and someone goes like

[58:15] it's like

[58:16] it's like they wandered

[58:17] into a different

[58:18] sillier

[58:19] weirder movie

[58:20] alright

[58:21] let's spend more time

[58:21] in this movie

S3

[58:22] they're in the same movie

[58:23] with Eric Roberts

[58:25] like

[58:25] they're all sort of

[58:26] it feels

[58:28] very Bakersfield

[58:29] to me

[58:30] how I can really

[58:31] explain it

[58:32] any further

[58:33] are definitely

[58:34] not their real names

[58:35] you know

[58:36] and I really respect

[58:37] them being like

[58:38] uh

[58:39] yeah

[58:39] we're not even

[58:40] gonna pretend

[58:41] that we're gonna be

[58:42] authentic with you

Stuart Wellington

[58:43] yeah

[58:44] I also feel like

[58:46] were not the names

[58:47] on the script

[58:48] and they're just like

[58:49] uh

[58:49] come up with a name

[58:50] real quick

[58:51] while we're shooting

Elliott Kalan

[58:51] maybe

[58:52] these two

[58:53] these two

[58:53] there's such a

[58:54] there's such a

[58:55] Manson family vibe

[58:56] to them

[58:56] and it's the kind

[58:57] of thing where I'm like

[58:58] I want more

[58:59] genuinely

[59:00] I want more of this

[59:01] kind of strange

[59:01] sinister vibe

[59:02] in this movie

[59:03] for sure

[59:03] because otherwise

[59:04] this movie just feels

[59:05] very flat

[59:07] and bland

[59:07] and boring

Stuart Wellington

[59:08] so we then

[59:09] uh

[59:10] things

[59:11] time for things

[59:12] to get heating

[59:12] heating up

[59:13] so there

[59:14] while traveling

[59:15] at night

[59:15] on the road

[59:16] they almost run

[59:17] over a goat

[59:18] um

[59:19] and then

[59:20] all of a sudden

[59:21] something smashes

[59:22] into the windshield

[59:23] I couldn't tell

[59:23] if it was the goat

[59:24] or something else

[59:25] and then there seems

[59:26] to be

[59:26] I was having trouble

Stuart Wellington

[59:26] with this too

Elliott Kalan

[59:27] whether it was like

[59:27] the goat's head

[59:29] I think

[59:29] or maybe it's

[59:30] an alien thing

[59:31] or it's a tiny

[59:32] weapon of something

[59:33] it's very hard

[59:34] to make it out

[59:34] I watched that part

[59:36] a couple times

[59:36] and I could never

[59:37] quite get it

Stuart Wellington

[59:37] there seems to be

[59:38] some kind of a UFO

[59:39] and they uh

[59:41] they try to get away

[59:42] in their RV

[59:43] but then the RV

[59:44] crashes and rolls

[59:45] down a hill

[59:46] we have a

[59:46] I would say

[59:47] probably a complicated

[59:49] uh

[59:50] stunt shot

[59:51] of

[59:51] oh yeah

[59:52] the the RV

[59:53] rolling around

[59:54] and the people

[59:54] like bouncing around

[59:56] on the inside

[59:56] I was really impressed

Elliott Kalan

[59:57] by that

[59:57] that was the one

[59:59] that was these

[59:59] this was the one

[1:00:00] effect of the movie

[1:00:00] there's some okay

[1:00:01] like kind of

[1:00:02] sci-fi channel

[1:00:03] level type

[1:00:04] or maybe a little

[1:00:05] bit less effects

[1:00:06] but this

[1:00:06] when they

[1:00:07] later on

[1:00:07] it's very much

Stuart Wellington

[1:00:08] like alone

[1:00:09] in the dark

[1:00:09] uh video cutscene

[1:00:11] in a video game

Elliott Kalan

[1:00:12] yes

[1:00:12] when they were

[1:00:13] when they're actually

[1:00:14] when they're actually

[1:00:15] when you're inside the RV

[1:00:17] and it was spinning

[1:00:17] the roll

[1:00:18] yeah

[1:00:18] I was like

[1:00:18] they must have made

[1:00:19] a room

[1:00:20] and that they could

[1:00:20] turn

[1:00:21] yeah it was really cool

[1:00:22] actually

[1:00:23] actually you've been

Stuart Wellington

[1:00:24] you've been in a lot

[1:00:25] of sets

[1:00:25] have you ever been

[1:00:25] in a rolling RV

[1:00:26] uh

S3

[1:00:27] I have not

[1:00:29] and I was really

[1:00:29] disappointed

[1:00:30] once I thought

[1:00:31] I thought

[1:00:31] bucket list

Stuart Wellington

[1:00:32] man

[1:00:33] yeah let's add it

[1:00:34] but it's funny

[1:00:35] because it is

[1:00:35] maybe in the next

[1:00:36] season of Gilded Age

S3

[1:00:37] from your lips

[1:00:40] to Julian Fellow's

[1:00:41] ears

[1:00:42] um

[1:00:42] I really

[1:00:44] this is a really

[1:00:45] effective scene

[1:00:46] and I didn't

[1:00:47] want any of it

[1:00:48] like I really

[1:00:49] didn't want

[1:00:50] to see

[1:00:51] George

[1:00:52] hurting

[1:00:53] and upset

[1:00:54] the way

[1:00:55] yeah

[1:00:56] the way that I was

[1:00:56] like no

Stuart Wellington

[1:00:57] I've become so

[1:00:59] attached to George

[1:01:00] you care about this

[1:01:01] character

[1:01:01] yeah

[1:01:02] yeah

S3

[1:01:02] yeah

[1:01:03] absolutely

[1:01:04] I didn't want

[1:01:04] to see that guy

[1:01:05] in pain

[1:01:06] I did not need

[1:01:07] realistic cuts

[1:01:08] and injuries

[1:01:09] yeah

[1:01:09] on these ciphers

[1:01:10] of people

[1:01:11] like I really

[1:01:12] just

Stuart Wellington

[1:01:12] so they climb

[1:01:14] out of the wreckage

[1:01:14] of their RV

[1:01:15] uh

[1:01:16] and they are all

[1:01:17] injured

[1:01:17] and they're

[1:01:19] uh

[1:01:19] disoriented

[1:01:19] and there seems

[1:01:20] to be aliens

[1:01:21] still around

[1:01:21] up on a bluff

[1:01:23] they see Sonny

[1:01:24] and Cher

[1:01:24] who then get

[1:01:25] blasted by some

[1:01:26] kind of alien ray

[1:01:27] and then they

[1:01:28] uh

[1:01:29] alien ray

Elliott Kalan

[1:01:30] alien original

[1:01:31] alien ray

[1:01:32] the pizza guy

[1:01:32] yeah

[1:01:34] yeah

[1:01:34] uh

Stuart Wellington

[1:01:36] yeah

[1:01:37] the

[1:01:37] so they

[1:01:38] they try to

[1:01:38] take cover

[1:01:39] from the aliens

[1:01:40] by running

[1:01:41] toward a nearby

[1:01:42] like fort

[1:01:43] or castle

[1:01:43] uh

[1:01:45] and uh

[1:01:46] they hide in there

[1:01:47] and it turns out

[1:01:47] that that's actually

[1:01:48] the cover part

[1:01:50] of a

[1:01:51] deep underground

[1:01:52] military base

[1:01:53] uh

[1:01:54] they descend

[1:01:54] into the

[1:01:55] bowels

[1:01:55] of this base

[1:01:56] and this is where

[1:01:56] it's a pretty

[1:01:57] standard

[1:01:57] sci-fi channel

[1:01:59] uh

[1:02:00] like

[1:02:00] sci-fi

[1:02:01] i don't know

[1:02:02] like science

[1:02:03] installation

[1:02:04] type base

[1:02:05] yeah

[1:02:05] like a

Elliott Kalan

[1:02:06] scientific

[1:02:06] military

[1:02:07] thing

[1:02:07] where there's

[1:02:08] like

[1:02:08] yeah

[1:02:08] there's like

[1:02:09] hallways

[1:02:10] with

[1:02:10] with gratings

[1:02:11] above you

[1:02:11] and there's

[1:02:12] like

[1:02:12] doors

[1:02:13] with glowing

[1:02:13] stuff

[1:02:14] behind them

[1:02:15] lines

[1:02:15] lines on the wall

[1:02:16] that glowing

[1:02:16] lines on the wall

[1:02:18] eventually

[1:02:18] yeah

[1:02:18] recessed lighting

[1:02:19] yeah

[1:02:20] eventually you're

[1:02:21] gonna find

[1:02:22] tanks

[1:02:22] with things

[1:02:23] floating in them

[1:02:24] you know

[1:02:24] they're clearly

Stuart Wellington

[1:02:26] the next step

[1:02:27] of human

[1:02:27] evolution

Elliott Kalan

[1:02:28] as george

[1:02:28] says

[1:02:29] the next step

[1:02:29] of human

[1:02:30] evolution

[1:02:30] i don't know

[1:02:31] what he's basing

[1:02:31] that on

[1:02:31] because they

[1:02:32] just kind of

[1:02:32] look like

[1:02:32] blubs

[1:02:33] like just

[1:02:34] blobs

[1:02:34] and blubs

[1:02:35] guys in

Dan McCoy

[1:02:35] suits

[1:02:35] one of the

[1:02:36] top ten

[1:02:36] places you're

[1:02:37] gonna find

[1:02:37] tanks full

[1:02:38] things floating

[1:02:39] top ten

[1:02:40] seafood

Elliott Kalan

[1:02:41] restaurants

[1:02:42] yeah

[1:02:42] seafood

[1:02:43] and chinese

[1:02:44] underground

[1:02:45] government

[1:02:45] installations

[1:02:46] dentist

[1:02:46] office

[1:02:47] waiting

[1:02:48] rooms

Stuart Wellington

[1:02:49] okay

[1:02:50] any place

[1:02:51] where they

[1:02:52] have like

[1:02:52] count how

[1:02:53] many pickled

[1:02:54] eggs are in

[1:02:54] the jar

[1:02:55] and if you

[1:02:55] get it right

[1:02:56] you get all

[1:02:56] the eggs

[1:02:56] the empire

[1:02:57] strikes back

[1:02:58] jeff coon's

Elliott Kalan

[1:03:00] retrospectives

[1:03:01] that's just

[1:03:01] gonna be

[1:03:01] basketballs

[1:03:02] floating in

[1:03:02] tanks

[1:03:02] but again

[1:03:03] it counts

[1:03:04] you know

Stuart Wellington

[1:03:04] does it count

[1:03:05] as floating

[1:03:06] in tanks

[1:03:06] if it's one

[1:03:07] of those

[1:03:07] places

[1:03:07] that's like

[1:03:08] like a

[1:03:09] paragliding

[1:03:10] or whatever

[1:03:10] but it's

[1:03:10] indoors

[1:03:11] like indoor

[1:03:11] skydiving

[1:03:12] places

[1:03:12] no

[1:03:13] that's a good

[1:03:13] question

[1:03:14] we get it

[1:03:14] a lot

[1:03:14] no actually

[1:03:15] it does not

[1:03:16] count as a

[1:03:16] tank

Dan McCoy

[1:03:17] we at the

[1:03:18] tank

[1:03:18] administration

[1:03:20] we in the

Elliott Kalan

[1:03:20] tank floating

[1:03:21] listing ranking

[1:03:22] community

[1:03:24] so walking

[1:03:24] around this

[1:03:25] as the

[1:03:25] as the guinness

[1:03:26] representative

[1:03:27] for tank

[1:03:28] floating

[1:03:28] operations

[1:03:30] I'll have to

[1:03:31] say no

[1:03:31] Stuart

[1:03:31] that does not

[1:03:32] fit our

[1:03:32] parameters

[1:03:33] yeah

Stuart Wellington

[1:03:33] so walking

[1:03:34] around this

[1:03:34] place

[1:03:35] I think at

[1:03:35] one point

[1:03:36] patricia

[1:03:36] has a vision

[1:03:37] of like

[1:03:38] alien silhouettes

[1:03:39] yeah

[1:03:40] alien silhouettes

[1:03:41] and blood

[1:03:42] flowing around

[1:03:42] her what

[1:03:43] like

[1:03:43] faux

[1:03:44] reptile skin

[1:03:46] boots

[1:03:46] and then

[1:03:48] they eventually

[1:03:49] realize they're

[1:03:50] being tracked

[1:03:51] by

[1:03:52] it seems like

[1:03:53] men in black

[1:03:53] special force

[1:03:54] type guys

[1:03:55] George

[1:03:56] and Alex

[1:03:57] easily

[1:03:58] dispatch these

[1:03:59] two soldiers

[1:04:00] easily overtake

[1:04:01] them

[1:04:01] yeah

[1:04:02] it never occurs

Elliott Kalan

[1:04:03] to soldiers

[1:04:04] to use the

[1:04:04] enormous guns

[1:04:05] that they're

[1:04:05] holding in their

[1:04:06] hands

Dan McCoy

[1:04:06] guys

[1:04:07] if one of

[1:04:08] you got

[1:04:08] abducted

[1:04:09] by aliens

[1:04:10] my friends

[1:04:11] and I

[1:04:11] would

[1:04:12] A

[1:04:12] not be able

[1:04:13] to find

[1:04:13] you

[1:04:14] and B

Stuart Wellington

[1:04:15] please

[1:04:16] maybe

[1:04:16] they're

[1:04:17] being held

[1:04:18] at the

[1:04:18] local

[1:04:19] cineplex

[1:04:19] for the

[1:04:21] bad movie

[1:04:22] retrospective

[1:04:22] I'm attending

Dan McCoy

[1:04:23] but also

[1:04:24] don't expect

[1:04:25] me to be

[1:04:25] able to

[1:04:26] beat anyone

[1:04:26] up in

[1:04:27] order to

[1:04:28] save you

Stuart Wellington

[1:04:29] for sure

[1:04:30] if they're not

[1:04:30] at the bar

[1:04:31] I'm not

[1:04:31] finding them

[1:04:32] maybe

[1:04:34] they're

[1:04:35] at the

[1:04:35] comic shop

[1:04:36] okay

[1:04:39] so

[1:04:39] they burst

[1:04:40] into

[1:04:41] I'll check

[1:04:41] this hammock

[1:04:41] yeah

Elliott Kalan

[1:04:42] don't see

[1:04:45] him yet

[1:04:45] better spend

[1:04:46] a little

[1:04:46] more time

[1:04:46] checking

S3

[1:04:47] I was

[1:04:48] mad the

[1:04:48] guys got

[1:04:49] guns

[1:04:49] and poor

[1:04:50] Patricia's

[1:04:51] just got

[1:04:52] her phone

[1:04:52] still

Stuart Wellington

[1:04:52] yeah

[1:04:53] but she's

[1:04:53] getting all

[1:04:54] this

[1:04:54] George is

[1:04:55] as George

[1:04:56] says out

[1:04:56] loud

[1:04:56] he's gonna

[1:04:57] get rich

[1:04:58] from this

[1:04:58] material

[1:04:59] which I'm

[1:04:59] like

[1:04:59] how do

[1:05:00] you own

[1:05:00] it

[1:05:01] she's the

[1:05:01] one

[1:05:01] filming

[1:05:02] it

[1:05:02] right

[1:05:02] way

[1:05:03] to

[1:05:03] like

[1:05:03] is she

[1:05:03] under

[1:05:03] contract

[1:05:04] yeah

[1:05:04] I mean

[1:05:05] it's a

[1:05:05] little

Elliott Kalan

[1:05:05] it's a

[1:05:06] little

[1:05:06] I mean

[1:05:06] but

[1:05:07] it

[1:05:07] reminded

[1:05:07] a little

[1:05:07] bit

[1:05:07] an issue

[1:05:08] I had

[1:05:08] in

[1:05:08] Nope

[1:05:09] when they

[1:05:10] were like

[1:05:10] all we need

[1:05:11] is a picture

[1:05:11] of that

[1:05:11] thing

[1:05:12] and we'll

[1:05:12] be

[1:05:12] millionaires

[1:05:13] and I'm

[1:05:14] like

[1:05:14] who's

[1:05:14] gonna pay

[1:05:15] you

[1:05:15] them

[1:05:15] I don't

[1:05:15] understand

[1:05:15] but I

[1:05:16] don't

[1:05:16] think

[1:05:17] that's

Stuart Wellington

[1:05:18] a problem

[1:05:19] with the

[1:05:19] script

[1:05:19] I would

[1:05:19] argue

[1:05:20] that's

[1:05:20] a problem

[1:05:20] with

[1:05:21] their

[1:05:21] thinking

[1:05:22] no

[1:05:22] I still

[1:05:23] feel

[1:05:24] like

[1:05:24] it

[1:05:24] fits

[1:05:24] within

[1:05:24] that

[1:05:25] world

[1:05:25] unlike

[1:05:25] here

Elliott Kalan

[1:05:25] the

[1:05:26] I'm just

[1:05:27] saying

[1:05:27] Illumina

[1:05:28] Nope

[1:05:28] basically

[1:05:28] the same

[1:05:28] movie

[1:05:29] anyway

[1:05:29] continue

[1:05:29] yeah

[1:05:30] just as

Stuart Wellington

[1:05:32] good

[1:05:32] okay

[1:05:34] so

[1:05:34] they

[1:05:35] burst

[1:05:35] into

[1:05:35] a room

[1:05:36] and they

[1:05:36] find

[1:05:36] Tatiana

[1:05:37] strapped

[1:05:38] to a

[1:05:38] table

[1:05:38] being

[1:05:39] like

[1:05:40] overlooked

[1:05:41] by some

[1:05:42] kind of

[1:05:42] alien

[1:05:42] creature

[1:05:43] who they

[1:05:43] immediately

[1:05:44] blast

[1:05:44] and then

[1:05:45] another

[1:05:45] alien

[1:05:45] shows up

[1:05:46] they

[1:05:46] blast

[1:05:46] that

[1:05:47] alien

[1:05:47] they

[1:05:47] know

[1:05:47] how

S3

[1:05:47] to

[1:05:48] use

[1:05:48] those

[1:05:48] guns

[1:05:48] with

Stuart Wellington

[1:05:49] no

[1:05:49] training

[1:05:50] again

[1:05:50] they

[1:05:50] are

[1:05:50] amazing

[1:05:51] I

[1:05:51] couldn't

[1:05:51] even

S3

[1:05:52] close

[1:05:52] the

[1:05:52] gate

[1:05:53] at

[1:05:53] your

[1:05:53] bar

[1:05:54] two

[1:05:54] nights

[1:05:54] ago

[1:05:55] I

[1:05:56] was

[1:05:56] like

[1:05:56] nobody

[1:05:57] showed

[1:05:57] me

[1:05:57] how

[1:05:57] to

[1:05:58] do

[1:05:58] this

[1:05:58] gotta

[1:05:59] call

[1:05:59] you

[1:05:59] at

[1:05:59] 6am

[1:06:00] let's

[1:06:03] say

Elliott Kalan

[1:06:03] that

[1:06:03] Alex

[1:06:04] during

[1:06:05] what it

[1:06:05] turns

[1:06:05] out

[1:06:05] was

[1:06:06] his

[1:06:06] the

[1:06:06] abductions

[1:06:07] he was

[1:06:07] dreaming

[1:06:07] about

[1:06:07] maybe

[1:06:08] they

[1:06:08] trained

[1:06:08] him

[1:06:09] in

[1:06:09] the

[1:06:09] use

[1:06:09] of

[1:06:09] this

[1:06:09] alien

[1:06:10] weaponry

[1:06:11] at

[1:06:11] some

[1:06:11] point

[1:06:11] we

Stuart Wellington

[1:06:12] realize

[1:06:12] at

[1:06:13] this

[1:06:13] point

[1:06:13] now

[1:06:13] reunited

[1:06:14] with

[1:06:14] Tatiana

[1:06:14] that

[1:06:15] Alex

[1:06:15] has

[1:06:16] had

[1:06:16] the

[1:06:16] same

[1:06:16] dreams

[1:06:17] because

[1:06:18] he

[1:06:18] also

[1:06:19] was

[1:06:19] being

[1:06:20] abducted

[1:06:21] and

Elliott Kalan

[1:06:21] that's

[1:06:21] where

[1:06:22] they

[1:06:22] met

[1:06:22] and

[1:06:22] that's

[1:06:23] why

[1:06:23] they

[1:06:23] have

[1:06:23] such

[1:06:24] a

[1:06:24] deep

[1:06:24] and

[1:06:24] abiding

[1:06:25] love

[1:06:25] clearly

[1:06:25] a

[1:06:26] strong

[1:06:26] connection

[1:06:26] like

Stuart Wellington

[1:06:27] she's

[1:06:27] his

[1:06:28] sensi

[1:06:28] girl

[1:06:28] that's

[1:06:31] why

[1:06:31] they

[1:06:31] have

[1:06:31] such

[1:06:31] a

[1:06:31] strong

[1:06:32] that's

[1:06:32] why

[1:06:32] Delilah

[1:06:33] will

[1:06:33] never

[1:06:33] be able

[1:06:33] to

[1:06:34] interrupt

[1:06:34] that

[1:06:34] which

[1:06:35] is

[1:06:35] perfect

[1:06:35] because

[1:06:36] she

[1:06:36] falls

[1:06:36] off

[1:06:36] a

[1:06:37] railing

[1:06:38] and

[1:06:38] aliens

[1:06:38] drag her

[1:06:39] I felt

Dan McCoy

[1:06:40] so bad

[1:06:40] for this

[1:06:41] character

[1:06:41] who got

[1:06:42] roped

[1:06:43] into this

[1:06:43] dumbass

[1:06:44] alien

[1:06:45] hunter

[1:06:45] and

[1:06:46] dies

[1:06:46] she's

[1:06:48] just

S3

[1:06:48] trying to

[1:06:48] stand

[1:06:49] by her

[1:06:49] man

[1:06:49] and

[1:06:50] then

[1:06:51] all

[1:06:51] of a

[1:06:52] sudden

[1:06:52] we

[1:06:52] see

[1:06:52] her

[1:06:52] spinal

[1:06:53] column

Stuart Wellington

[1:06:54] should

[1:06:55] have

[1:06:56] been

[1:06:56] blonder

Elliott Kalan

[1:06:56] so

[1:06:57] sensi

[1:06:58] sensi

[1:06:58] so I guess

[1:06:59] if that's

[1:06:59] the linked

[1:07:00] and it's

[1:07:00] like

[1:07:00] special

[1:07:01] extraterrestrial

[1:07:02] neurological

[1:07:03] super

[1:07:05] yep

[1:07:06] yeah

S3

[1:07:07] okay

[1:07:07] yep

[1:07:08] you got

[1:07:08] it

[1:07:09] oh wait

[1:07:09] can I

[1:07:10] give the

[1:07:11] George

[1:07:11] exposition

[1:07:12] I wrote

[1:07:12] this fully

[1:07:13] out

[1:07:14] oh yeah

[1:07:14] yeah

[1:07:14] so it

[1:07:15] says

[1:07:15] there's

[1:07:16] a blip

[1:07:16] where you

[1:07:17] see them

[1:07:17] covered

[1:07:17] in goo

[1:07:18] holding

[1:07:19] hands

[1:07:20] and then

[1:07:20] it cuts

[1:07:21] back

[1:07:21] and George

[1:07:22] says

[1:07:22] it all

[1:07:23] makes sense

[1:07:24] both

[1:07:24] of y'all

[1:07:25] are connected

[1:07:25] to each

[1:07:26] other

[1:07:26] that's

[1:07:27] how you

[1:07:27] were

[1:07:27] miraculously

[1:07:28] able to

[1:07:29] find her

[1:07:29] both

[1:07:30] you guys

[1:07:31] having

[1:07:31] nightmares

[1:07:31] about the

[1:07:32] same

[1:07:32] place

[1:07:33] it all

[1:07:34] adds up

[1:07:35] it does

Elliott Kalan

[1:07:36] all add up

[1:07:38] they're like

[1:07:39] we need a line

[1:07:39] of dialogue

[1:07:40] that gets

[1:07:40] across how

[1:07:40] this all

[1:07:41] adds up

[1:07:41] and then

[1:07:43] they split

S3

[1:07:43] it with

[1:07:44] Tatiana

[1:07:44] who then

[1:07:45] says

[1:07:45] because you

[1:07:46] were also

[1:07:47] abducted

[1:07:48] by aliens

Stuart Wellington

[1:07:49] yeah

[1:07:50] because when

[1:07:51] we first

[1:07:52] started seeing

[1:07:52] them covered

[1:07:52] in goop

[1:07:53] them like

[1:07:53] wait a minute

[1:07:54] did I miss

[1:07:54] something

[1:07:55] and no

[1:07:56] I guess

[1:07:56] we all

[1:07:57] missed

[1:07:57] something

[1:07:57] we missed

[1:07:58] the signs

[1:07:59] were there

[1:08:00] all along

[1:08:00] yeah I missed

[1:08:01] Delilah

[1:08:01] yep

[1:08:03] Delilah

[1:08:04] unfortunately

[1:08:04] gets her

[1:08:05] spine ripped

[1:08:06] out

[1:08:06] well she

[1:08:08] shouldn't have

[1:08:08] wished that

[1:08:09] another girl

S3

[1:08:09] would disappear

[1:08:10] yeah subzero

[1:08:11] style right

[1:08:12] I think so

[1:08:12] yeah

[1:08:13] yeah that's

[1:08:13] some haze code

[1:08:14] stuff

[1:08:14] being like

[1:08:15] if you wish

[1:08:16] another girl's

[1:08:16] gonna disappear

[1:08:17] you will have

[1:08:18] your spinal column

[1:08:19] exposed

[1:08:19] that's the rule

[1:08:20] okay so they

[1:08:21] run through the

[1:08:21] base

[1:08:22] yep

[1:08:22] they're being

[1:08:22] pursued by

[1:08:23] yelling aliens

Elliott Kalan

[1:08:24] the aliens

[1:08:25] they shoot

[1:08:25] are they the

[1:08:26] same kinds

[1:08:26] of aliens

[1:08:27] the aliens

[1:08:27] that are chasing

[1:08:28] them

[1:08:28] I couldn't tell

[1:08:29] if it was

[1:08:30] if they were

[1:08:30] the same

[1:08:31] or different

[1:08:31] because the

[1:08:32] ones that are

[1:08:32] chasing them

[1:08:32] are very

[1:08:33] clearly like

[1:08:33] they look like

[1:08:34] kind of like

[1:08:34] the xenomorph

[1:08:35] a little bit

[1:08:36] kind of like

[1:08:36] venoms

[1:08:37] exactly

[1:08:38] they've got

[1:08:38] long tongues

[1:08:39] and stuff

[1:08:39] but the ones

[1:08:40] that they shoot

[1:08:41] I thought

[1:08:41] that they

[1:08:41] looked a little

[1:08:42] different

[1:08:42] and I could

[1:08:42] buy it

[1:08:43] if there's

[1:08:43] the scientist

[1:08:44] aliens

[1:08:45] and their

[1:08:45] enforcer

[1:08:46] you know

[1:08:46] aliens

[1:08:47] but from that

[1:08:48] point on

[1:08:48] all we see

[1:08:48] are the

[1:08:49] venom

[1:08:49] xenomorph

[1:08:50] types

[1:08:50] which

[1:08:50] again

[1:08:51] I don't

[1:08:52] see them

[1:08:52] as being

[1:08:52] the kind

[1:08:53] that can

[1:08:53] build a

[1:08:54] spaceship

[1:08:54] they don't

[1:08:54] even have

[1:08:54] clothes

[1:08:55] but they're

S3

[1:08:56] like spinning

[1:08:57] triangles

[1:08:57] in their

[1:08:58] hands

[1:08:58] you know

[1:08:58] like

[1:08:59] there's a

[1:08:59] shot

[1:09:00] of this

[1:09:00] huge

[1:09:01] alien

[1:09:02] it seemed

[1:09:02] I don't

[1:09:03] know

[1:09:03] maybe the

[1:09:03] proportions

[1:09:04] were just

[1:09:04] off

[1:09:04] but it

[1:09:04] seemed

[1:09:05] enormous

[1:09:05] this alien

[1:09:06] just sort

[1:09:07] of like

[1:09:07] levitating

[1:09:08] something

[1:09:08] in its palm

[1:09:09] and I was

[1:09:10] like

[1:09:10] why does

[1:09:10] that guy

[1:09:11] need a

[1:09:11] land rover

[1:09:12] if he can

[1:09:12] do that

[1:09:13] can't he

[1:09:13] just

Dan McCoy

[1:09:14] sort of

S3

[1:09:15] get there

[1:09:15] Elliot

[1:09:16] is it

Dan McCoy

[1:09:16] more advanced

[1:09:17] to have

[1:09:17] clothes

[1:09:18] come on

[1:09:18] let's all

[1:09:19] get naked

[1:09:19] right now

[1:09:20] just do it

[1:09:20] I knew

[1:09:22] I was here

[1:09:22] for a

[1:09:23] so we

Stuart Wellington

[1:09:26] got

[1:09:27] so they

[1:09:28] run through

[1:09:29] the base

[1:09:29] they find

[1:09:30] a room

[1:09:30] that like

[1:09:30] a decontamination

[1:09:32] chamber

[1:09:32] that has a

[1:09:33] bunch of

[1:09:34] like spacesuits

[1:09:34] that all fit

[1:09:35] them perfectly

[1:09:35] they put

[1:09:36] those spacesuits

[1:09:37] on

[1:09:37] and then

[1:09:38] I think

[1:09:38] they like

[1:09:39] teleport

[1:09:40] to another

[1:09:41] room

[1:09:41] yeah

Elliott Kalan

[1:09:43] I can't

[1:09:44] remember

[1:09:44] all the

Stuart Wellington

[1:09:45] mechanics

[1:09:45] then they

[1:09:46] walk outside

[1:09:47] on

[1:09:48] it seems

[1:09:48] like they're

[1:09:49] on some

[1:09:49] kind of

[1:09:49] alien desert

[1:09:50] planet

Elliott Kalan

[1:09:50] it doesn't

[1:09:52] look that

[1:09:52] different

[1:09:53] from the

[1:09:53] Moroccan desert

[1:09:54] they were

[1:09:54] just in

[1:09:54] but they

[1:09:55] are clearly

[1:09:55] talking about

[1:09:56] it as a

[1:09:56] different

[1:09:56] planet

[1:09:57] and George

[1:09:57] is like

[1:09:58] low oxygen

[1:09:59] don't take

[1:09:59] your helmets

[1:09:59] off

Stuart Wellington

[1:10:00] and then

[1:10:01] they run

[1:10:02] being pursued

[1:10:03] and I think

[1:10:03] they go into

[1:10:04] another alien

[1:10:05] base

[1:10:05] that's on

[1:10:06] this planet

[1:10:07] and then

[1:10:07] they start

[1:10:08] shooting

[1:10:09] describing

[1:10:09] a video game

[1:10:10] level

[1:10:10] I mean

Dan McCoy

[1:10:11] it's all

[1:10:11] just a bunch

[1:10:12] of

[1:10:13] action

[1:10:13] that doesn't

[1:10:14] really

[1:10:14] add up

[1:10:15] to anything

Stuart Wellington

[1:10:15] and then

[1:10:15] George gets

[1:10:16] shot

[1:10:17] and he

[1:10:17] falls down

[1:10:18] and he

[1:10:18] bleeds a lot

[1:10:19] like we're

[1:10:20] all gonna

[1:10:20] die here

[1:10:21] and then

[1:10:21] they keep

[1:10:22] running

[1:10:22] and then

[1:10:23] somehow

[1:10:24] Patricia

[1:10:25] like breaks

[1:10:25] her leg

[1:10:26] and then

[1:10:26] an alien

[1:10:27] breaks her

[1:10:27] neck

[1:10:28] and I'm

[1:10:28] like oh

[1:10:29] that's

[1:10:29] unwarranted

[1:10:30] and then

[1:10:31] that seems

[1:10:31] like

Elliott Kalan

[1:10:31] that seems

[1:10:32] like

[1:10:32] an unnecessary

[1:10:34] and also

[1:10:35] mean way

[1:10:35] for the

[1:10:36] alien

[1:10:36] to kill

[1:10:36] her

[1:10:36] to snap

[1:10:37] her neck

[1:10:38] seems like

[1:10:38] what is

[1:10:39] this

[1:10:39] come on

[1:10:39] what's

[1:10:39] going on

Stuart Wellington

[1:10:40] and then

[1:10:40] Tatiana

[1:10:41] and Alex

[1:10:42] end up in

[1:10:43] the desert

[1:10:44] surrounded by

[1:10:45] evil aliens

[1:10:46] and then

[1:10:47] what they

[1:10:47] like

[1:10:48] explode

[1:10:48] or something

[1:10:48] there's

Elliott Kalan

[1:10:52] like a

[1:10:52] chase

[1:10:54] they have

[1:10:55] like a

[1:10:55] Humvee chase

[1:10:55] they have

[1:10:56] a Humvee chase

S3

[1:10:56] which is

[1:10:57] hinted at

[1:10:58] in the first

[1:10:58] moment of

[1:10:59] the film

[1:11:00] right

[1:11:00] we finally

[1:11:01] get the

[1:11:01] resolution

[1:11:02] of what

[1:11:03] that scene

[1:11:03] is about

[1:11:04] with the

[1:11:04] little

[1:11:04] dinosaur

[1:11:05] lizard

[1:11:05] guy

[1:11:06] oh that's

[1:11:06] right

[1:11:06] in the very

Elliott Kalan

[1:11:07] opening

[1:11:07] of the movie

[1:11:07] we're on

[1:11:08] that

[1:11:08] alien

[1:11:09] planet

[1:11:09] and we

[1:11:09] see

[1:11:09] someone

[1:11:10] drive up

[1:11:10] in

[1:11:10] a little

[1:11:10] car

[1:11:11] like

[1:11:11] he finds

[1:11:11] a broken

[1:11:12] phone

[1:11:12] and

[1:11:13] they're

Dan McCoy

[1:11:13] surrounded

[1:11:14] and they

[1:11:14] take their

[1:11:15] masks off

[1:11:16] to kiss

[1:11:17] even though

[1:11:17] it's a

[1:11:17] low oxygen

[1:11:18] planet

[1:11:19] and they

[1:11:19] kiss

[1:11:19] and then

[1:11:20] like

[1:11:20] it's sort

[1:11:23] of unclear

[1:11:24] what happens

[1:11:25] whether

[1:11:25] the very

[1:11:27] end is

[1:11:27] like

[1:11:28] just like

[1:11:28] a fantasy

[1:11:29] happy ending

[1:11:31] like they're

[1:11:32] like

[1:11:32] they appear

[1:11:33] to be back

[1:11:33] on earth

[1:11:34] kissing

[1:11:34] together

[1:11:35] that could

[1:11:37] be like

[1:11:37] them

[1:11:38] you know

[1:11:39] fantasy

[1:11:39] dying

[1:11:40] moments

[1:11:41] or maybe

[1:11:42] they get

[1:11:42] zapped

[1:11:43] back to

[1:11:43] earth

[1:11:43] somehow

[1:11:44] in that

[1:11:44] moment

[1:11:44] like it's

[1:11:45] it's

[1:11:45] unclear

[1:11:46] I thought

[1:11:47] they got

[1:11:47] zapped

[1:11:47] back

S3

[1:11:47] to earth

[1:11:48] you know

[1:11:48] because

[1:11:48] she's been

[1:11:49] abducted

[1:11:49] a ton

[1:11:50] which

[1:11:50] for somebody

[1:11:51] who's been

[1:11:51] abducted

[1:11:51] a ton

[1:11:52] that girl's

[1:11:52] got a lot

[1:11:53] of quit

[1:11:53] in her

[1:11:54] you know

[1:11:54] what I mean

[1:11:55] she's very

[1:11:57] much

[1:11:57] I'm

[1:11:58] piecing out

[1:11:59] this hurts

[1:11:59] take off

[1:12:00] your helmet

[1:12:01] so I can

[1:12:01] stroke your

[1:12:02] face

[1:12:02] and then

[1:12:03] she's like

[1:12:04] where's the beard

Stuart Wellington

[1:12:05] I'm missing

[1:12:05] the giant beard

[1:12:06] I heard about

Elliott Kalan

[1:12:07] you would look

[1:12:07] good with a beard

[1:12:08] have you ever

[1:12:08] thought about

[1:12:09] that

[1:12:09] you're right

Stuart Wellington

[1:12:11] they are in

[1:12:11] Malibu at the

[1:12:12] end

[1:12:12] I've forgotten

[1:12:13] doesn't she have

[1:12:14] like a big

[1:12:14] dumb hat

[1:12:16] that's how you

[1:12:17] know it's Malibu

Dan McCoy

[1:12:17] either way

[1:12:20] I can't decide

[1:12:20] which ending

[1:12:21] annoys me more

[1:12:22] whether like

[1:12:23] these two

[1:12:23] bland lovers

[1:12:24] survive

[1:12:25] having killed

[1:12:26] their friends

[1:12:27] who were dumb

[1:12:28] enough to follow

[1:12:29] them on this

[1:12:30] adventure

[1:12:30] or everyone

[1:12:32] dies and the

[1:12:33] movie has

[1:12:33] even less of a

[1:12:34] point than it

[1:12:35] already has

Elliott Kalan

[1:12:35] well Dan

[1:12:36] did you watch

[1:12:37] the mid-credits

[1:12:37] scene or no

[1:12:38] speaking of points

Dan McCoy

[1:12:39] I did see the

[1:12:39] mid-credits scene

[1:12:40] I don't know

[1:12:41] whether Stuart did

[1:12:42] so first off

[1:12:43] before we get

[1:12:44] to a mid-credits

[1:12:45] scene which of

Stuart Wellington

[1:12:45] course I did

[1:12:46] not watch

[1:12:46] there is a

[1:12:48] there is a

[1:12:50] after this

[1:12:51] final moment

[1:12:52] in Malibu

[1:12:52] we cut to

[1:12:53] text on the

[1:12:54] screen

[1:12:54] this was

Elliott Kalan

[1:12:56] this is

[1:12:57] maybe this is

[1:12:58] my favorite

[1:12:58] moment

[1:12:58] this is the

[1:12:59] moment that

[1:12:59] we went

[1:12:59] no what

[1:13:01] I said that

[1:13:01] out loud

[1:13:02] it made me

[1:13:02] so happy

Stuart Wellington

[1:13:03] text on the

[1:13:04] screen explaining

[1:13:05] the phenomena

[1:13:06] of alien

[1:13:07] abductions

[1:13:08] and how there's

[1:13:09] been so many

[1:13:09] but so many

[1:13:10] go unreported

[1:13:11] because of the

[1:13:11] potential stigma

[1:13:12] it is

[1:13:13] associated with it

Elliott Kalan

[1:13:14] it is estimated

[1:13:15] that one out of

[1:13:16] every 200

[1:13:17] people has been

[1:13:18] abducted by aliens

[1:13:19] yeah

[1:13:19] one out of

[1:13:20] every 200

[1:13:21] that is

[1:13:22] bonkers

[1:13:22] that means that

[1:13:25] many people you

[1:13:26] know have been

[1:13:27] abducted by aliens

[1:13:28] many of the people

[1:13:28] listening to this

[1:13:29] podcast have

[1:13:30] been abducted by

[1:13:31] aliens

[1:13:31] I was like that

[1:13:32] is an obscenely

[1:13:33] low number

[1:13:34] for that group

[1:13:36] like one if it

[1:13:37] was like one

[1:13:38] out of every

[1:13:38] million people

[1:13:39] I'd be like even

[1:13:39] that seems like

[1:13:40] pretty prevalent

[1:13:41] alien abductions

[1:13:42] but what

[1:13:43] would it be

[1:13:43] 200

[1:13:44] are they abducting

[1:13:45] people constantly

[1:13:46] what's going on

[1:13:47] come on

[1:13:47] yeah they said

S3

[1:13:48] 1.6 million

[1:13:49] in 2022

[1:13:50] yeah

Stuart Wellington

[1:13:51] that's

[1:13:52] that is more

[1:13:53] people than

[1:13:54] are

[1:13:55] like erased

[1:13:56] on that show

[1:13:57] the leftovers

[1:13:58] you know

[1:13:58] yeah

Elliott Kalan

[1:13:59] that's

[1:14:00] at that point

[1:14:00] you're getting

[1:14:01] into

[1:14:01] the kind of

[1:14:02] thinking

[1:14:03] that was in

[1:14:03] like the

[1:14:04] 80s satanic

[1:14:05] panic

[1:14:05] where they were

[1:14:05] like oh yeah

[1:14:06] yeah all these

[1:14:07] preschools all

[1:14:07] across America

[1:14:08] are drugging kids

[1:14:09] and then flying

[1:14:09] them around

[1:14:10] the world

[1:14:10] so they can

[1:14:10] participate in

[1:14:11] sacrifices

[1:14:11] and then bringing

[1:14:12] them back

[1:14:13] so that they can

[1:14:13] be picked up

[1:14:14] at the end of

[1:14:14] the day

[1:14:15] by their parents

[1:14:15] flying them

[1:14:16] around

[1:14:16] that was the

[1:14:17] idea

[1:14:17] that's bonkers

[1:14:18] that was the

[1:14:18] idea yeah

[1:14:18] that they were

[1:14:19] traveling in the

[1:14:19] middle of the day

[1:14:20] they're traveling

[1:14:20] them

[1:14:20] but it's a

[1:14:22] every 200

[1:14:23] I was

[1:14:24] if it's

[1:14:24] and I started

[1:14:25] feeling bad

[1:14:25] because I was

[1:14:26] like if it's

[1:14:27] every 200

[1:14:27] and I didn't

[1:14:28] get abducted

[1:14:29] I feel left

[1:14:29] out

[1:14:30] yeah

[1:14:30] you're just a

[1:14:31] bad hang

[1:14:32] they just

[1:14:33] didn't

[1:14:33] I am a bad

[1:14:34] hang for aliens

[1:14:35] that's true

Dan McCoy

[1:14:36] can you explain

[1:14:36] this mid-credits

[1:14:37] sequence though

[1:14:37] yeah

[1:14:38] I didn't see

[1:14:38] this what happened

[1:14:39] so by the way

Stuart Wellington

[1:14:40] the credits

[1:14:40] are very much

[1:14:41] like somebody

[1:14:42] took like a

[1:14:43] Canva credits

[1:14:44] program and

[1:14:45] just were like

[1:14:45] hit play

[1:14:46] insert some

[1:14:47] names

[1:14:47] like all the

[1:14:49] images they show

[1:14:50] are not of

[1:14:50] characters from

[1:14:51] the movie

[1:14:51] or of things

[1:14:52] that happened

[1:14:52] in the movie

Elliott Kalan

[1:14:53] no well

[1:14:53] speaking of

[1:14:54] not characters

[1:14:55] and not things

[1:14:55] that happened

[1:14:56] the mid-credits

[1:14:56] scene is less

[1:14:57] it's more of a

[1:14:57] mid-credits joke

[1:14:58] than a scene

[1:15:00] where there's

[1:15:01] a couple

[1:15:01] guys and

[1:15:03] an alien

[1:15:03] sitting in

[1:15:04] like kind of

[1:15:05] large chairs

[1:15:06] and Eric Roberts

[1:15:08] sitting there

[1:15:08] and was it

[1:15:09] Eric Roberts

[1:15:10] or just someone

[1:15:10] in Eric Roberts

[1:15:11] wardrobe

[1:15:11] no it was Eric Roberts

[1:15:12] no it was Eric Roberts

[1:15:13] okay

[1:15:13] and some

S3

[1:15:14] T-Mu stormtroopers

Elliott Kalan

[1:15:15] yeah

[1:15:15] wait they could

Stuart Wellington

[1:15:17] afford more

[1:15:19] because this scene

Elliott Kalan

[1:15:20] was shot in the

[1:15:20] daytime and the

[1:15:21] rest of Eric Roberts

[1:15:22] stuff is all

[1:15:22] shot at night

[1:15:25] sitting around

[1:15:25] like a grill

[1:15:27] mainly just kind

[1:15:27] of hanging out

[1:15:28] and then at one

[1:15:29] point someone

[1:15:29] goes

[1:15:29] who invited

[1:15:30] the alien

[1:15:30] and that's

[1:15:31] the end

[1:15:31] of it

[1:15:31] and I was

[1:15:32] like I don't

[1:15:34] I don't know

[1:15:34] what I'm supposed

[1:15:35] to be getting

[1:15:35] from this

[1:15:35] I guess it's

[1:15:36] supposed to be

[1:15:36] fun or funny

[1:15:37] but I did

[1:15:37] it just

[1:15:38] it felt like

[1:15:38] it so clashed

[1:15:39] with everything

[1:15:40] else the movie

[1:15:40] seemed to be

[1:15:41] trying to do

[1:15:42] you know

Dan McCoy

[1:15:42] before we get

[1:15:44] on to final

[1:15:45] judgments

[1:15:45] I do want to

[1:15:46] as teased

[1:15:47] before

[1:15:47] so this is

[1:15:48] a special

[1:15:49] report from

[1:15:50] Alex Guder

[1:15:50] of Hollywood

[1:15:51] Entertainment

[1:15:51] who Hollywood

[1:15:53] Entertainment

[1:15:53] put together

[1:15:54] the Clifford

[1:15:54] reunion

[1:15:55] we saw at

[1:15:55] BAM

[1:15:56] and mentioned

[1:15:56] in the past

[1:15:57] he was in

[1:15:57] town

[1:15:57] recently with

[1:15:59] some other

[1:15:59] weird

[1:16:00] film programming

[1:16:02] did he give you

Elliott Kalan

[1:16:02] permission to name

[1:16:02] him as your

[1:16:03] source

Dan McCoy

[1:16:03] yes

[1:16:04] I had some

[1:16:06] I hadn't met

[1:16:07] him before

[1:16:08] but he was

[1:16:08] very nice

[1:16:09] had some

[1:16:09] drinks with

[1:16:09] him afterwards

[1:16:10] he was talking

[1:16:11] about

[1:16:11] how far

[1:16:12] did he get

[1:16:12] he was like

[1:16:14] there's this

[1:16:14] movie you should

[1:16:15] do

[1:16:15] and he started

[1:16:16] describing

[1:16:16] that's the

[1:16:17] next movie

[1:16:17] we're literally

[1:16:18] doing

[1:16:18] but he had

[1:16:21] some information

[1:16:22] that I'm going

[1:16:22] to bullet point

[1:16:24] for time

[1:16:24] but so he

[1:16:27] encountered this

[1:16:28] he heard from

[1:16:28] a theater manager

[1:16:29] friend about

[1:16:29] this nutty

[1:16:30] movie

[1:16:31] and the director

[1:16:33] and the director's

[1:16:34] producer slash

[1:16:35] mother had been

[1:16:36] emailing the theater

[1:16:36] with criticism

[1:16:38] about how it

[1:16:39] was being

[1:16:39] promoted

[1:16:39] and like

[1:16:40] nitpicking

[1:16:41] things like

[1:16:41] there were

[1:16:42] photos of

[1:16:42] where the

[1:16:43] posters were

[1:16:44] being displayed

[1:16:44] and stuff

[1:16:45] like that

[1:16:45] and the

[1:16:47] filmmakers

[1:16:48] had started

[1:16:48] sending folks

[1:16:49] to the theater

[1:16:50] to monitor

[1:16:50] whether or not

[1:16:51] the tickets

[1:16:52] sold

[1:16:53] corresponded to

[1:16:53] the number

[1:16:54] of people

[1:16:54] in the theater

[1:16:55] because

[1:16:56] apparently

[1:16:57] they thought

[1:16:59] that their

[1:16:59] box office

[1:16:59] should have

[1:17:00] been higher

[1:17:02] more interest

[1:17:02] for this

[1:17:02] out there

[1:17:03] because this

[1:17:04] trailer had

[1:17:05] gone viral

[1:17:05] on TikTok

[1:17:06] and they

[1:17:07] didn't understand

[1:17:07] how that

[1:17:08] hadn't

[1:17:08] converted

[1:17:08] to butts

[1:17:10] in seats

[1:17:10] and Alex

[1:17:13] says that

[1:17:13] when he

[1:17:14] went to see

[1:17:14] the movie

[1:17:14] he said

[1:17:15] two for

[1:17:15] Illumina

[1:17:16] and the

[1:17:16] ticket seller

[1:17:17] was like

[1:17:18] what?

[1:17:19] It was

[1:17:19] taken aback

[1:17:19] and Alex

[1:17:21] said oh

[1:17:21] is it sold

[1:17:22] out?

[1:17:22] And the

[1:17:23] ticket taker

[1:17:24] laughed and

[1:17:24] got serious

[1:17:25] and said wait

[1:17:25] are you here

[1:17:26] with the

[1:17:26] company?

[1:17:26] Because they

[1:17:27] had been

[1:17:27] sending people

[1:17:28] to monitor

[1:17:29] how many

[1:17:30] people were

[1:17:31] in there

[1:17:32] because they're

[1:17:33] like they

[1:17:34] gotta be

[1:17:34] ripping us

[1:17:35] off which

[1:17:35] is what

[1:17:37] is going

[1:17:37] on with

[1:17:38] that aforementioned

[1:17:39] lawsuit.

[1:17:41] And apparently

[1:17:42] the screening

[1:17:44] they saw

[1:17:44] started with

[1:17:45] the electronic

[1:17:46] press kit

[1:17:47] being shown

[1:17:47] and during

[1:17:50] that time

[1:17:50] they were the

[1:17:51] only two

[1:17:52] people in

[1:17:52] the theater

[1:17:52] during that

[1:17:52] time.

[1:17:53] Sure enough

[1:17:53] someone came

[1:17:53] in and

[1:17:54] photographed

[1:17:54] them in

[1:17:55] the theater.

[1:17:56] Awesome.

[1:17:57] Awesome.

[1:17:58] So cool.

[1:17:59] The EPK

[1:18:00] listed someone's

[1:18:01] credits.

[1:18:01] He says he

[1:18:02] can't be sure

[1:18:03] he's remembering

[1:18:03] this correctly

[1:18:04] but thinks

[1:18:04] that the EPK

[1:18:05] listed someone's

[1:18:06] credits as

[1:18:06] having received

[1:18:07] honors at

[1:18:08] their university

[1:18:09] and some

[1:18:10] other credits

[1:18:10] included

[1:18:11] actor since

[1:18:12] age four

[1:18:12] and well

[1:18:13] known model.

[1:18:14] Oh bless.

[1:18:15] And

[1:18:16] afterward he

[1:18:18] monitored

[1:18:18] letterboxes

[1:18:19] and other

[1:18:19] places where

[1:18:21] people put up

[1:18:22] their reviews

[1:18:23] where the

[1:18:24] director was

[1:18:25] getting into

[1:18:25] arguments with

[1:18:26] detractors

[1:18:27] meanwhile

[1:18:28] mysterious

[1:18:29] similar sounding

[1:18:30] positive reviews

[1:18:31] were appearing

[1:18:31] about how

[1:18:32] much better

[1:18:33] this movie

[1:18:33] was than

[1:18:34] the just

[1:18:34] released

[1:18:35] Long Legs

[1:18:36] and like

[1:18:37] why aren't

[1:18:38] why is there

[1:18:38] so much

[1:18:38] focus on

[1:18:39] long legs.

Elliott Kalan

[1:18:40] I didn't

[1:18:40] love Long

[1:18:41] Legs.

[1:18:41] Long Legs

[1:18:42] is a billion

[1:18:42] times better

[1:18:43] than this.

Dan McCoy

[1:18:45] But anyway

[1:18:46] thank you Alex

[1:18:47] for the

[1:18:47] report.

[1:18:50] He guaranteed

[1:18:51] to take the

[1:18:52] heat for us

[1:18:53] if Gina

[1:18:53] McCoy

[1:18:54] sued us.

Elliott Kalan

[1:18:55] I appreciate

[1:18:56] that.

[1:18:57] It seems

[1:18:58] like a

[1:18:58] fair amount

[1:19:00] of

Stuart Wellington

[1:19:00] Oh man

[1:19:02] are we

[1:19:02] going to

[1:19:02] have to

[1:19:02] go in

[1:19:03] front of

[1:19:03] Congress

[1:19:04] and defend

[1:19:04] our podcast?

Elliott Kalan

[1:19:07] You're on

[1:19:08] your own.

[1:19:08] There is no

[1:19:09] defense.

[1:19:09] That's the

[1:19:10] thing.

[1:19:10] I'll have to

[1:19:10] be like

[1:19:11] Congress

[1:19:11] I cannot

[1:19:11] defend

[1:19:12] anything

[1:19:12] about our

[1:19:13] podcast.

[1:19:13] I apologize.

[1:19:14] It certainly

[1:19:16] seems like a

[1:19:16] movie that

[1:19:17] they paid

[1:19:20] someone to

[1:19:21] plant good

[1:19:23] things about

[1:19:24] in places

[1:19:25] or maybe

[1:19:25] they do

[1:19:25] it their

[1:19:26] own.

[1:19:26] Because

[1:19:26] when you

[1:19:27] look it up

[1:19:28] online there's

[1:19:28] two different

[1:19:29] types of

[1:19:29] articles about

[1:19:30] it.

[1:19:30] There are

[1:19:30] reviews which

[1:19:31] are bad

[1:19:32] and then

[1:19:32] there are

[1:19:33] articles about

[1:19:33] like this

[1:19:34] cult

[1:19:35] classic,

[1:19:35] this international

[1:19:36] new cult

[1:19:38] classic that

[1:19:38] it's a

[1:19:39] mind-bending

[1:19:39] story and

[1:19:40] it's like

[1:19:41] alright well

[1:19:42] this feels

[1:19:42] like it's

[1:19:42] straight out

[1:19:43] of a

[1:19:43] publicity

[1:19:44] kit,

[1:19:44] you know

[1:19:44] a press

[1:19:45] kit or

[1:19:45] something

[1:19:45] like that.

[1:19:46] But I

[1:19:46] guess the

[1:19:46] lawsuit

[1:19:46] involves

[1:19:47] that it

[1:19:47] was shown

[1:19:48] on a lot

[1:19:48] fewer

[1:19:48] screens

[1:19:49] than they

[1:19:50] thought it

[1:19:50] should be.

[1:19:51] But I

[1:19:51] gotta say

[1:19:52] to watching

[1:19:52] this movie

[1:19:53] I'm like

[1:19:53] that this

[1:19:53] was shown

[1:19:54] in any

[1:19:54] movie theater

[1:19:55] screens.

[1:19:56] They've

[1:19:56] achieved what

[1:19:57] they wanted

[1:19:57] to achieve.

[1:19:58] Like this

[1:19:58] is everything

[1:19:58] about it

[1:19:59] screams you

[1:20:00] watch this

[1:20:01] on Tubi

[1:20:01] because it's

[1:20:02] got a cool

[1:20:03] thumbnail image

[1:20:03] and then you're

[1:20:04] like what am I

[1:20:04] doing?

[1:20:05] What is this

[1:20:06] thing?

[1:20:06] Yeah or you're

[1:20:07] a bad movie

[1:20:07] sicko like us.

Dan McCoy

[1:20:09] Yeah exactly.

[1:20:11] Yeah speaking

[1:20:11] of bad movie

[1:20:12] sickos there's a

[1:20:13] thing we do in

[1:20:14] the Flophouse

[1:20:14] which is called

[1:20:15] the Final

[1:20:15] Judgments

[1:20:16] where we say

[1:20:17] is this a good

[1:20:18] bad movie

[1:20:19] a bad bad

[1:20:19] movie or a

[1:20:20] movie we

[1:20:20] kind of

[1:20:21] like.

[1:20:22] I honestly

[1:20:23] don't know

[1:20:23] where you guys

[1:20:24] are going to

[1:20:24] go with this.

[1:20:25] I'm going to

[1:20:25] say like for

[1:20:26] me.

[1:20:27] Oh great movie.

Stuart Wellington

[1:20:28] For me.

[1:20:29] Good movie.

[1:20:30] Watching with my

[1:20:31] family tonight.

Dan McCoy

[1:20:31] This is definitely

[1:20:32] a fun one to

[1:20:34] talk about.

[1:20:36] I found the

[1:20:37] energy level of

[1:20:39] this movie to

[1:20:39] be way too

[1:20:40] low for me to

[1:20:41] think it was a

[1:20:42] good bad movie

[1:20:42] at least watching

[1:20:43] it alone.

[1:20:43] I think the term

Dan McCoy

[1:20:43] soporific is for

[1:20:45] a lot of this

[1:20:46] movie.

[1:20:46] Yeah.

[1:20:46] Like Eric

[1:20:47] Roberts definitely

[1:20:48] brings the energy

[1:20:49] this movie should

[1:20:49] have but doesn't

[1:20:51] for most of the

[1:20:52] time.

[1:20:52] So I personally

[1:20:53] am going to go

[1:20:54] ahead and say

[1:20:55] bad bad even

[1:20:55] though it is a

[1:20:56] fun one to

[1:20:57] discuss.

Stuart Wellington

[1:20:59] Stuart why don't

[1:21:00] you.

[1:21:01] Yeah I mean I

[1:21:02] would say this

[1:21:02] verges on what I

[1:21:03] would call a

[1:21:04] good bad movie and

[1:21:05] what we call a

[1:21:06] good bad movie here

[1:21:07] at the Flophouse.

[1:21:08] Thanks for

[1:21:09] separating those two.

[1:21:10] It's literally a

[1:21:10] bad movie that

[1:21:11] is I feel like

[1:21:12] this is I don't I

[1:21:14] feel like there's

[1:21:16] been some conversation

[1:21:17] about whether or

[1:21:17] not this is kind

[1:21:18] of like in the

[1:21:19] vein of something

[1:21:20] like The Room and

[1:21:21] I don't think it's

[1:21:21] quite as silly and

[1:21:23] it also the run

[1:21:24] time is too long

[1:21:24] but it is very

[1:21:26] silly and weird

[1:21:27] and despite having

[1:21:30] some fun moments

[1:21:31] it's it's it's a

[1:21:32] bad this is a bad

[1:21:32] movie.

[1:21:34] I don't think I

[1:21:35] can't imagine there's

[1:21:36] an argument about

[1:21:36] like that people are

[1:21:37] actually discussing

[1:21:38] whether this is a

[1:21:39] good movie but

[1:21:40] it's a question of

[1:21:41] whether or not how

[1:21:41] is this bad enough

[1:21:43] to be a classic

[1:21:44] bad movie.

Elliott Kalan

[1:21:45] Yes I agree to me

[1:21:45] it's it's a bad bad

[1:21:46] movie because it's

[1:21:47] so that it's just

[1:21:48] very slow and I

[1:21:49] found it very dull

[1:21:50] and very like I

[1:21:51] got very sleepy

[1:21:52] while watching it

[1:21:53] like it was a

[1:21:53] very whereas

[1:21:54] your your classic

[1:21:56] The Rooms is

[1:21:57] or Birdemics I

[1:21:58] feel like are a

[1:21:59] constant parade of

[1:22:00] surprises and

[1:22:01] things where you're

[1:22:02] like what is this

[1:22:03] why are they doing

[1:22:04] this wait a minute

[1:22:05] what and there's

[1:22:05] an energy to it

[1:22:06] and it's just

[1:22:07] such a low energy

[1:22:08] movie and like

[1:22:08] more fun to talk

[1:22:09] about than it is

[1:22:10] to watch but

[1:22:11] maybe it'd be more

[1:22:12] fun to watch with

[1:22:12] other people than to

[1:22:13] watch it as I did

[1:22:14] by myself so I

[1:22:16] don't know what do

S3

[1:22:17] you think Ashley?

[1:22:18] Yeah I felt I think

[1:22:19] I'm gonna actually

[1:22:20] come down on good

[1:22:21] bad movie and I

[1:22:22] think when it's

[1:22:22] not the problem

[1:22:24] was actually with

[1:22:25] how it was marketed

[1:22:26] to me if I had

[1:22:27] gone in completely

[1:22:28] blind instead of

[1:22:30] thinking that this

[1:22:31] was about

[1:22:31] I mean you wouldn't

[1:22:32] have been able to

[1:22:32] see the movie at

[1:22:33] all

[1:22:33] that's

[1:22:34] gone in completely

[1:22:35] blind

[1:22:35] but I would have

[1:22:36] had Gino McCoy's

[1:22:37] music pure and

[1:22:38] unfiltered

[1:22:38] it's true

[1:22:39] it's just that

[1:22:40] feeling

[1:22:40] I mean it's all

[1:22:41] vibes but I

[1:22:43] I was so sold on

[1:22:46] the underground

[1:22:46] military base that

[1:22:47] doesn't show up

[1:22:48] until the last 20

[1:22:49] minutes of the film

[1:22:50] if I had sort of

[1:22:52] ascertained from

[1:22:54] the opening scenes

[1:22:55] that this was

[1:22:55] sort of a low

[1:22:58] energy St. Elmo's

[1:22:59] fire for 2024

[1:23:01] where

[1:23:03] St. Elmo's

[1:23:04] crackling ember

[1:23:05] you know

[1:23:06] it's not quite a

[1:23:07] fire yeah

[1:23:07] yeah

[1:23:08] St. Elmo's

[1:23:11] low radiator

[1:23:12] heat

[1:23:12] that I think

[1:23:15] I would have

[1:23:16] been able to

[1:23:16] get behind it

[1:23:17] a little more

[1:23:18] I watched it

[1:23:19] with my husband

[1:23:20] and we did

[1:23:22] have fun

[1:23:23] talking about it

[1:23:24] I also think

[1:23:25] that

[1:23:25] for all the

[1:23:26] low energy

[1:23:27] some of these

[1:23:28] actors are

[1:23:28] working really

[1:23:30] hard to try to

[1:23:31] establish things

[1:23:32] that are not

[1:23:33] on the page

[1:23:34] and there are

[1:23:36] moments where

[1:23:36] I can see

[1:23:39] trying to

[1:23:40] build camaraderie

[1:23:41] and relationships

[1:23:42] and so I just

[1:23:44] want to shout out

[1:23:44] to those actors

[1:23:45] because I have

[1:23:46] been in a

[1:23:47] 0% rating

[1:23:49] on Rotten

[1:23:49] Tomatoes movie

[1:23:50] before

Stuart Wellington

[1:23:51] wow

[1:23:52] Inside Man

[1:23:53] the Spike Lee

[1:23:54] movie

S3

[1:23:55] absolutely

[1:23:56] fucking

[1:23:57] not

[1:23:57] we're gonna

Stuart Wellington

[1:23:59] fist fight

S3

[1:23:59] Stuart

[1:24:00] no I love

[1:24:01] that movie

[1:24:01] pause this

[1:24:02] pause this

[1:24:02] no a movie

[1:24:04] called

[1:24:04] An Invisible

[1:24:05] Sign

[1:24:05] starring Jessica

[1:24:06] Alba

[1:24:07] as a math

[1:24:08] teacher

[1:24:08] oh shit

[1:24:08] that sounds

[1:24:09] like a

[1:24:09] feature of

[1:24:10] Wild House

[1:24:10] movie

[1:24:10] I mean

[1:24:11] I would love

[1:24:12] there are some

[1:24:13] also really

[1:24:14] great performances

[1:24:14] in that

[1:24:15] but

[1:24:15] yeah I'm gonna

[1:24:17] go with

[1:24:17] good bad

[1:24:17] okay

[1:24:18] it's a little

[1:24:18] slow

[1:24:19] it's a lot

[1:24:20] slow

[1:24:21] but

[1:24:21] yeah

[1:24:22] but I

[1:24:23] I was

[1:24:24] entertained

[1:24:24] even if

[1:24:27] I said

[1:24:27] wait what

[1:24:28] and rewound

Elliott Kalan

[1:24:29] a lot

[1:24:30] classic phrase

[1:24:31] I mean

[1:24:31] sometimes

[1:24:32] that's the best

[1:24:33] sign in a movie

[1:24:34] like this

[1:24:34] is when you have

[1:24:34] to rewind

[1:24:35] and go like

[1:24:36] what was that

[1:24:36] what

[1:24:36] but other times

[1:24:37] it's like

[1:24:38] I don't understand

[1:24:38] what just happened

[1:24:39] yeah yeah

Stuart Wellington

[1:24:40] I'm like

[1:24:41] damn

[1:24:41] what's that song

[1:24:42] rewind it

[1:24:42] I wanna

[1:24:43] grab the ox cable

[1:24:43] I wanna hear that song

Elliott Kalan

[1:24:44] I gotta hear that

S3

[1:24:46] that sensey girl

[1:24:47] song again

[1:24:47] shout out to that

[1:24:48] elevator song

[1:24:49] that Gino McCoy

[1:24:51] has where

[1:24:52] he's

[1:24:53] where the guy

[1:24:53] hits the button

[1:24:54] it's one of the most

[1:24:55] dramatic moments

[1:24:56] reaches out

[1:24:58] and hits the button

[1:24:59] it's so

[1:25:00] close

[1:25:01] to

[1:25:02] some classical music

[1:25:03] that I did

[1:25:04] Shazam it

[1:25:05] to see if they'd

[1:25:07] spent all their money

[1:25:07] on

[1:25:08] some orchestration

[1:25:10] but nope

[1:25:11] Gino McCoy's

[1:25:12] elevator

[1:25:12] it's all him

[1:25:13] yeah

[1:25:13] musical chameleon

[1:25:14] you know

Justin McElroy

[1:25:20] we've been doing

[1:25:21] my brother my brother me

[1:25:22] for 15 years

[1:25:23] and

[1:25:23] maybe

[1:25:24] maybe you stopped

[1:25:25] listening for a while

[1:25:26] maybe you never listen

[1:25:27] and you're probably

[1:25:28] assuming

[1:25:28] three white guys

[1:25:29] talking for 15 years

[1:25:31] I know where this

[1:25:31] has ended up

[1:25:32] but no

[1:25:33] no

[1:25:34] you would be wrong

[1:25:35] we're as shocked

[1:25:36] as you are

[1:25:36] that we have not

[1:25:37] fallen into

[1:25:38] some sort of

[1:25:39] horrific scandal

[1:25:41] or just turned into

[1:25:42] a big crypto thing

[1:25:43] yeah

[1:25:44] you don't even

[1:25:44] really know

[1:25:45] how crypto works

[1:25:46] the only

[1:25:47] nfts I'm into

[1:25:48] are naughty

[1:25:48] funny things

[1:25:49] which is what

[1:25:50] we talk about

[1:25:51] on my brother

[1:25:51] my brother and me

[1:25:52] we serve it up

[1:25:53] every monday

[1:25:54] for you

[1:25:55] if you're listening

[1:25:55] and if not

[1:25:56] we just leave it

[1:25:57] out back

[1:25:58] it goes rotten

[1:25:59] so check it out

[1:26:00] on maximum fun

[1:26:01] or wherever

[1:26:02] you get your podcasts

S6

[1:26:03] all right

[1:26:05] we're over 70

[1:26:06] episodes into our show

[1:26:07] let's learn everything

[1:26:08] so let's do a quick

[1:26:09] progress tech

[1:26:10] have we learned

[1:26:11] about quantum physics

Stuart Wellington

[1:26:12] yes episode 59

S6

[1:26:13] we haven't learned

[1:26:15] about the history

[1:26:15] of gossip yet

[1:26:16] have we

[1:26:17] yes we have

[1:26:17] same episode

[1:26:18] actually

[1:26:18] have we talked

[1:26:19] to tom scott

[1:26:20] about his love

[1:26:21] of roller coasters

[1:26:22] episode 64

Stuart Wellington

[1:26:22] so how close are we

[1:26:24] to learning everything

S6

[1:26:25] bad news

[1:26:26] we still haven't

[1:26:27] learned everything

[1:26:28] yet

[1:26:29] we're ruined

[1:26:31] no no no

[1:26:32] it's good news as well

[1:26:33] there is still

[1:26:34] a lot to learn

[1:26:35] I'm dr ella hubber

Elliott Kalan

[1:26:37] I'm regular tom lum

S6

[1:26:38] I'm caroline roper

[1:26:39] and on let's learn

[1:26:40] everything we learn

[1:26:41] about science

[1:26:42] and a bit of

[1:26:43] everything else too

[1:26:43] and although we

[1:26:44] haven't learned

[1:26:44] everything yet

[1:26:45] I've got a pretty

[1:26:46] good feeling

[1:26:47] about this next episode

[1:26:48] join us every other

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[1:30:01] let's

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[1:30:04] questions

[1:30:05] from listeners

[1:30:07] letters from

[1:30:07] listeners

[1:30:08] wait are they

Elliott Kalan

[1:30:09] letters or

[1:30:10] questions Dan

[1:30:10] I'm confused

Dan McCoy

[1:30:11] well

[1:30:13] usually we call

[1:30:14] this letters

[1:30:15] from listeners

[1:30:15] and I just

[1:30:16] sort of forgot

[1:30:17] what we do

[1:30:17] on the show

[1:30:18] even though

[1:30:19] it's been

[1:30:19] nearly two

[1:30:20] decades

[1:30:21] this first

[1:30:24] I do love

Elliott Kalan

[1:30:24] something I think

[1:30:25] our listeners

[1:30:26] appreciate is

[1:30:27] no matter how

[1:30:27] many years

[1:30:27] we do this

[1:30:28] a refusal

[1:30:29] to take things

[1:30:30] for granted

[1:30:30] and fall

[1:30:30] into habits

[1:30:31] that would

[1:30:32] help us

[1:30:32] to get through

[1:30:33] the show

[1:30:33] and remember

[1:30:34] what's gonna

[1:30:34] happen next

[1:30:35] and what we

[1:30:35] do

[1:30:36] you know

[1:30:36] yeah

[1:30:36] we treat

[1:30:37] every show

[1:30:37] like it's

[1:30:38] our first

[1:30:38] that's beautiful

Dan McCoy

[1:30:39] this first

[1:30:39] one is from

[1:30:40] Michael

[1:30:41] last name

[1:30:41] withheld

[1:30:42] who writes

[1:30:43] dear

[1:30:44] Flophouse

[1:30:44] one of my

[1:30:45] greater concerns

[1:30:46] about the dangers

[1:30:47] of AI

[1:30:47] isn't so much

[1:30:48] about professional

[1:30:49] artists getting

[1:30:50] pushed out

[1:30:51] but that

[1:30:51] amateur artists

[1:30:52] may just decide

[1:30:53] to use AI

[1:30:54] slop

[1:30:55] instead of

[1:30:55] dealing with

[1:30:56] the frustration

[1:30:56] of developing

[1:30:57] their skills

[1:30:58] and working

[1:30:58] through being

[1:30:59] bad at art

[1:31:00] in order to

[1:31:01] become good

[1:31:01] at it

[1:31:02] and that's a shame

[1:31:03] because I like

[1:31:04] a lot of

[1:31:04] amateur art

[1:31:05] and seeing newer

[1:31:06] artists develop

[1:31:07] even if their

[1:31:07] work isn't as

[1:31:08] good as they

[1:31:09] want it to be

[1:31:10] so my question

[1:31:11] for you is

[1:31:11] what are some

[1:31:12] things that you

[1:31:12] like about

[1:31:13] newer artists

[1:31:14] still figuring

[1:31:15] things out

[1:31:16] that's from

[1:31:17] Michael

[1:31:18] last name

[1:31:18] withheld

[1:31:19] and in the

[1:31:21] case of

[1:31:21] movies

[1:31:22] like one of

[1:31:23] the things I

[1:31:24] like and it's

[1:31:25] not necessarily

[1:31:26] like these are

[1:31:27] bad artists

[1:31:28] these are often

[1:31:29] like very

[1:31:30] good artists

[1:31:31] but the early

[1:31:32] work is filled

[1:31:34] with so much

[1:31:35] show-offiness

[1:31:36] almost because

[1:31:37] they don't know

[1:31:39] whether they're

[1:31:39] going to make

[1:31:39] another movie

[1:31:40] so they're like

[1:31:41] every idea

[1:31:42] they've had

[1:31:42] they stick it

[1:31:43] in there

[1:31:43] whether or not

[1:31:44] it is necessarily

[1:31:46] like

[1:31:46] of a piece

[1:31:47] with what

[1:31:47] they're trying

[1:31:48] to do

[1:31:48] and maybe

[1:31:50] later works

[1:31:51] are more

[1:31:52] you know

[1:31:53] quote mature

[1:31:53] but there's so

[1:31:54] much energy

[1:31:55] in a lot of

[1:31:57] early movies

[1:31:58] and that's

[1:31:58] something I

[1:31:59] appreciate

[1:31:59] and I also

[1:32:00] just want to

[1:32:01] say like

[1:32:01] I really

[1:32:02] appreciate the

[1:32:03] like the

[1:32:05] general like

[1:32:05] premise of

[1:32:06] this letter

[1:32:06] because I do

[1:32:07] feel like

[1:32:07] you have to

[1:32:09] be bad

[1:32:10] before you're

[1:32:11] good

[1:32:11] you have to

[1:32:12] embrace being

[1:32:13] bad before

[1:32:13] you're good

[1:32:14] like that's

[1:32:14] one of the

[1:32:15] most important

[1:32:15] things to do

[1:32:16] is like

[1:32:17] know that

[1:32:18] that's just

[1:32:18] part of the

[1:32:19] process

[1:32:19] you're working

[1:32:20] through a lot

[1:32:20] of bad

[1:32:20] stuff to get

[1:32:21] to the good

[1:32:22] and I hope

[1:32:23] that people

[1:32:24] out there

[1:32:24] take that

[1:32:25] to heart

Stuart Wellington

[1:32:25] yeah I mean

[1:32:26] the Flopass

[1:32:27] podcast has

[1:32:28] always been

[1:32:28] kind of

[1:32:29] perfect

[1:32:29] and we've

[1:32:30] never had

[1:32:30] any slip

[1:32:31] em ups

[1:32:31] never

[1:32:31] we've never

[1:32:32] had any

[1:32:33] growing pains

Elliott Kalan

[1:32:34] that's another

[1:32:35] way of saying

[1:32:36] that we have

[1:32:36] not developed

[1:32:37] at all

[1:32:37] over the past

[1:32:38] 17-18 years

[1:32:40] emotionally

[1:32:40] we have

[1:32:42] changed

[1:32:43] there's a lot

Dan McCoy

[1:32:44] of stuff

[1:32:44] I would

[1:32:44] change

Stuart Wellington

[1:32:45] yeah I mean

[1:32:45] like I love

[1:32:46] amateur art

[1:32:47] usually it's

[1:32:48] short films

[1:32:49] that you can

[1:32:49] find on a

[1:32:51] website called

[1:32:51] Pornhub

[1:32:52] and I mainly

[1:32:53] like it when

[1:32:54] you can see

[1:32:54] something in the

[1:32:55] background like

[1:32:55] a cat

[1:32:56] or there's

[1:32:56] one where

[1:32:57] like you

[1:32:58] can see

[1:32:58] like through

[1:33:00] the like

[1:33:00] window to

[1:33:01] the porch

[1:33:02] you can see

[1:33:02] a grill

[1:33:03] and in the

[1:33:04] comments section

[1:33:05] some guy was

[1:33:05] like actually

[1:33:06] that type of

[1:33:07] grill you should

[1:33:07] probably put in

[1:33:08] a garage or

[1:33:09] something

[1:33:09] because I

[1:33:09] can't really

[1:33:09] handle being

[1:33:10] out exposed

[1:33:11] to the

[1:33:11] elements

[1:33:11] it's so

[1:33:12] funny

[1:33:12] I love it

[1:33:13] so much

[1:33:13] I love the

Dan McCoy

[1:33:14] comment section

[1:33:14] on porn

[1:33:15] videos because

[1:33:16] it's either

[1:33:16] like like

[1:33:17] people are

[1:33:17] asking for

[1:33:18] Minecraft

[1:33:18] kind of

[1:33:19] helpful or

[1:33:20] like unrelated

[1:33:21] or it is

[1:33:22] like stuff

[1:33:23] you would

[1:33:23] never want

[1:33:24] to know

[1:33:24] like the

[1:33:24] exact time

[1:33:25] code at

[1:33:25] which someone

[1:33:26] achieved

[1:33:26] orgasm

S3

[1:33:27] right

[1:33:28] here's the

[1:33:29] money shot

[1:33:29] also

[1:33:30] dude have

[1:33:31] you checked

[1:33:31] your thyroid

[1:33:32] it looks

[1:33:33] a little

[1:33:33] like you

[1:33:34] might have

[1:33:35] this condition

[1:33:36] yeah the

Stuart Wellington

[1:33:38] exact time

[1:33:38] code you

[1:33:39] don't record

[1:33:39] the exact

[1:33:40] time code

[1:33:40] you bust

[1:33:40] in case

[1:33:41] you accidentally

[1:33:42] have a child

[1:33:43] and then you're

[1:33:44] going to want

[1:33:44] to tell them

[1:33:44] exactly the

[1:33:45] moment you

[1:33:45] created them

[1:33:46] diary of

[1:33:47] such things

[1:33:48] you need to

Elliott Kalan

[1:33:49] know that

[1:33:49] information so

[1:33:50] you can label

[1:33:50] the ejaculate

[1:33:51] when you put

[1:33:52] it in your

[1:33:52] archives

Dan McCoy

[1:33:53] we took a

[1:33:54] weird turn

Elliott Kalan

[1:33:55] whose fault

[1:33:57] was that

[1:33:58] yours

[1:33:59] Stuart

[1:34:00] I will

[1:34:03] say

[1:34:04] there is

[1:34:05] something

[1:34:05] very exciting

[1:34:05] about seeing

[1:34:06] someone

[1:34:07] clearly

[1:34:07] has

[1:34:07] talent

[1:34:08] but

[1:34:08] maybe

[1:34:08] hasn't

[1:34:09] yet

[1:34:09] gotten

[1:34:09] so

[1:34:10] comfortable

[1:34:10] with

[1:34:10] their

[1:34:11] skill

[1:34:11] that

[1:34:12] they're

[1:34:12] taking

[1:34:12] it for

[1:34:12] granted

[1:34:13] or they're

[1:34:13] not excited

[1:34:14] by it

[1:34:14] anymore

[1:34:14] that they

[1:34:15] are

[1:34:15] often an

[1:34:16] artist's

[1:34:17] early work

[1:34:17] is where

[1:34:17] they are

[1:34:18] trying out

[1:34:18] their ideas

[1:34:19] that are

[1:34:19] new to

[1:34:20] them

[1:34:20] or at

[1:34:20] the very

[1:34:20] least

[1:34:21] they are

[1:34:21] imitating

[1:34:22] old ideas

[1:34:23] in a way

[1:34:23] that is

[1:34:23] bringing

[1:34:24] their own

[1:34:24] flair

[1:34:25] to it

[1:34:25] so there's

[1:34:26] something

[1:34:26] really exciting

[1:34:27] in seeing

[1:34:27] an artist

[1:34:27] develop

[1:34:28] and seeing

[1:34:28] them

[1:34:28] the energy

[1:34:29] and excitement

[1:34:30] of someone

[1:34:30] recognizing

[1:34:31] becoming

[1:34:32] their own

[1:34:32] self

[1:34:32] before that

[1:34:34] self

[1:34:34] becomes

[1:34:34] stuck

[1:34:37] static

[1:34:38] just becomes

[1:34:39] what it is

Stuart Wellington

[1:34:40] certainly

[1:34:40] sometimes

[1:34:40] when you're

[1:34:41] seeing

[1:34:41] somebody

[1:34:41] whose

[1:34:43] enthusiasm

[1:34:43] might

[1:34:44] outpace

[1:34:44] their

[1:34:45] skill set

Elliott Kalan

[1:34:46] yeah

[1:34:47] or just

[1:34:48] enthusiastic

[1:34:48] there's a

[1:34:49] type of

[1:34:50] it doesn't

[1:34:50] happen to all

[1:34:51] creative

[1:34:51] professionals

[1:34:51] but a lot

[1:34:52] of creative

[1:34:52] professionals

[1:34:52] there's

[1:34:53] that excitement

[1:34:54] of like

[1:34:55] I'm doing

[1:34:55] this thing

[1:34:56] like this

[1:34:56] thing

[1:34:56] that I

[1:34:56] want to

[1:34:57] do

[1:34:57] I'm doing

[1:34:57] before it

[1:34:58] becomes

[1:34:58] a job

[1:35:00] that they

[1:35:00] can take

[1:35:01] oh of course

[1:35:01] I do

[1:35:01] this thing

[1:35:02] this is

[1:35:02] what I do

[1:35:02] you know

[1:35:03] this is the

[1:35:03] craft

[1:35:04] that I

[1:35:04] that I've

[1:35:04] made my

[1:35:05] life

[1:35:05] that is

[1:35:05] the thing

[1:35:06] of like

[1:35:07] I'm so

[1:35:07] excited

[1:35:07] that I'm

[1:35:08] doing this

[1:35:08] craft

[1:35:09] that I've

[1:35:09] wanted to

[1:35:10] do

[1:35:10] and

[1:35:11] there's

[1:35:11] an energy

[1:35:12] to that

[1:35:12] that is

[1:35:12] really

[1:35:12] exciting

[1:35:13] it's

[1:35:13] the kind

[1:35:14] of thing

[1:35:14] that like

[1:35:14] there's

[1:35:15] a lot

[1:35:15] of

[1:35:16] you know

[1:35:17] when you're

[1:35:17] listening to

[1:35:18] punk bands

[1:35:18] like

[1:35:19] the early

[1:35:20] stuff a band

[1:35:20] puts out

[1:35:21] where it's

[1:35:21] like

[1:35:21] they're not

[1:35:22] as good

[1:35:22] as their

[1:35:22] instruments

[1:35:23] so excited

[1:35:23] about doing

[1:35:24] what they're

[1:35:24] doing

[1:35:25] you know

[1:35:25] it hasn't

[1:35:26] yet become

[1:35:27] a thing

[1:35:27] that they

[1:35:27] not take

[1:35:28] in a bad

[1:35:29] way

[1:35:29] like

[1:35:29] ugh

[1:35:30] this again

[1:35:31] but take

[1:35:31] as in

[1:35:32] like

[1:35:32] that thrill

[1:35:33] of

[1:35:34] we might not

[1:35:34] do this

[1:35:34] ever again

[1:35:35] right

[1:35:36] has gone

[1:35:36] away

[1:35:36] yeah

[1:35:36] like

[1:35:37] we may

[1:35:37] never

[1:35:37] be asked

S3

[1:35:37] to do

[1:35:38] this

[1:35:38] and

[1:35:39] you know

[1:35:39] there's

[1:35:39] a correlation

[1:35:40] there's

[1:35:40] this

[1:35:41] ira

[1:35:41] glass

[1:35:42] thing

[1:35:42] that he

[1:35:42] said

[1:35:43] a long

[1:35:43] time

[1:35:43] ago

[1:35:43] about

[1:35:43] how

[1:35:43] people's

[1:35:44] taste

[1:35:45] like

[1:35:46] you have

[1:35:46] a

[1:35:46] like

[1:35:47] artists

[1:35:47] have

[1:35:47] a

[1:35:47] taste

[1:35:48] level

[1:35:48] but

[1:35:48] they're

[1:35:48] not

[1:35:49] going

[1:35:49] to

[1:35:49] hit

[1:35:49] that

[1:35:49] taste

[1:35:50] level

[1:35:50] for a

[1:35:51] while

[1:35:51] but

[1:35:52] your

[1:35:52] work

[1:35:53] is

[1:35:53] not

[1:35:53] as

[1:35:53] good

[1:35:54] as

[1:35:54] your

[1:35:54] taste

[1:35:54] when

[1:35:55] you're

[1:35:55] starting

[1:35:56] out

[1:35:56] and

[1:35:57] enduring

[1:35:58] through

[1:35:58] that

[1:35:59] discomfort

[1:36:00] of

[1:36:05] what

[1:36:06] the

[1:36:06] journey

[1:36:07] for

[1:36:08] the

[1:36:08] work

[1:36:08] is

[1:36:09] I

[1:36:09] think

[1:36:09] it's

[1:36:09] really

[1:36:10] exciting

[1:36:10] I

[1:36:10] love

[1:36:11] working

[1:36:11] with

[1:36:12] first

[1:36:12] time

[1:36:12] filmmakers

[1:36:12] I

[1:36:13] think

[1:36:13] that

[1:36:13] there

[1:36:13] is

[1:36:14] they've

[1:36:15] got

[1:36:15] all

[1:36:15] of

[1:36:15] these

[1:36:15] the

[1:36:16] Harper

[1:36:16] Lee

[1:36:16] to

[1:36:16] kill

[1:36:17] a

[1:36:17] mockingbird

[1:36:17] of

[1:36:17] it

[1:36:17] all

[1:36:18] where

[1:36:18] it's

[1:36:18] like

[1:36:18] they've

[1:36:18] been

[1:36:19] germinating

[1:36:19] this

[1:36:19] idea

[1:36:20] for

[1:36:20] a

[1:36:20] really

[1:36:20] long

[1:36:21] time

[1:36:21] and

[1:36:22] they're

[1:36:22] really

[1:36:23] excited

[1:36:23] to

[1:36:23] get

[1:36:23] it

[1:36:24] out

[1:36:25] there

[1:36:25] but

[1:36:26] they're

[1:36:26] also

[1:36:26] deeply

[1:36:27] collaborative

[1:36:28] and

[1:36:29] some

[1:36:29] well

[1:36:30] some

[1:36:30] of

[1:36:30] them

[1:36:30] are

[1:36:30] deeply

[1:36:31] collaborative

[1:36:31] but

[1:36:32] there's

[1:36:32] also

[1:36:32] the

[1:36:32] sense

[1:36:33] that

[1:36:33] anything

[1:36:35] can

[1:36:35] be

[1:36:35] a

[1:36:35] horse

[1:36:36] you know

[1:36:36] what

[1:36:36] I

[1:36:36] mean

[1:36:37] you're

[1:36:37] sort

[1:36:37] of

[1:36:37] like

[1:36:37] cobbling

[1:36:38] together

[1:36:39] the

[1:36:41] often

[1:36:42] the

[1:36:43] low

[1:36:43] budget

[1:36:44] circumstances

[1:36:44] of the

[1:36:44] movie

[1:36:45] you're

[1:36:45] trying

[1:36:45] to

[1:36:45] make

[1:36:45] with

[1:36:45] the

[1:36:45] idea

[1:36:46] that

[1:36:46] you've

[1:36:46] had

[1:36:46] in

[1:36:46] your

[1:36:46] head

[1:36:47] for

[1:36:47] 15

[1:36:47] years

[1:36:48] and

[1:36:48] I

[1:36:48] really

[1:36:49] love

[1:36:50] how

[1:36:50] that

[1:36:51] works

[1:36:51] because

[1:36:51] they're

[1:36:51] not

[1:36:51] you know

[1:36:52] most

[1:36:53] of

[1:36:53] these

[1:36:53] films

[1:36:53] low

[1:36:55] budget

[1:36:55] first

[1:36:55] time

[1:36:55] filmmaker

[1:37:00] like

[1:37:01] they're

[1:37:01] borrowing

[1:37:02] a chicken

[1:37:03] restaurant

[1:37:04] that they

[1:37:04] worked in

[1:37:06] filming

[1:37:07] there

[1:37:07] a movie

[1:37:08] I did

[1:37:08] compliance

[1:37:09] with

[1:37:09] Craig

[1:37:09] Zobel

[1:37:10] like

[1:37:10] his

[1:37:10] second

[1:37:10] film

[1:37:11] we

[1:37:11] literally

[1:37:12] worked

[1:37:12] in

[1:37:12] a

[1:37:13] chicken

[1:37:13] restaurant

[1:37:13] overnight

[1:37:14] all

[1:37:15] overnights

[1:37:16] two

[1:37:17] weeks

[1:37:17] of

[1:37:17] overnights

[1:37:18] right

[1:37:18] because

[1:37:18] they

[1:37:19] would

[1:37:19] shut

[1:37:19] down

[1:37:20] the

[1:37:20] KFC

[1:37:20] we

[1:37:21] would

[1:37:21] come

[1:37:21] in

[1:37:22] and

[1:37:22] change

[1:37:22] the

[1:37:23] signage

[1:37:23] and

[1:37:24] then

[1:37:24] we

[1:37:24] would

[1:37:24] shoot

[1:37:25] until

[1:37:25] 6

[1:37:25] AM

Stuart Wellington

[1:37:26] did

[1:37:26] you

[1:37:26] change

[1:37:27] a

[1:37:27] tub

[1:37:27] Popeye's

[1:37:27] yeah

[1:37:28] exactly

S3

[1:37:29] to

[1:37:30] Bojangles

[1:37:32] actually

[1:37:32] yeah

Dan McCoy

[1:37:32] I love

[1:37:33] this

[1:37:33] rolling

[1:37:34] reveal

[1:37:34] of

[1:37:35] movies

[1:37:35] that

[1:37:35] I've

[1:37:35] seen

[1:37:36] you

[1:37:36] in

[1:37:36] unawares

[1:37:37] in the

[1:37:38] past

[1:37:38] see

[1:37:40] now

[1:37:40] you'll

[1:37:40] see it

[1:37:41] I'm

S3

[1:37:41] ruining

[1:37:41] people's

[1:37:42] suspension

[1:37:42] of

[1:37:42] disbelief

[1:37:43] left

[1:37:43] right

[1:37:43] and

[1:37:44] center

[1:37:44] it's

[1:37:45] really

Elliott Kalan

[1:37:45] exciting

[1:37:45] I like the

[1:37:46] non-rolling

[1:37:46] reveal of

[1:37:47] Dan

[1:37:47] having not

[1:37:48] done

[1:37:48] research

[1:37:49] sure

[1:37:49] I

[1:37:51] I know

Dan McCoy

[1:37:53] some of

[1:37:53] it

[1:37:54] I knew

[1:37:54] Gilded Age

[1:37:55] and Black

[1:37:56] Klansman

[1:37:56] Dan

[1:37:57] I'm just

[1:37:57] giving you

Elliott Kalan

[1:37:57] the kind

[1:37:58] of roast

[1:37:58] that you're

[1:37:58] going to be

[1:37:59] giving to

[1:37:59] people

[1:37:59] when they

[1:37:59] pay you

[1:38:00] for it

[1:38:00] for their

[1:38:00] kink

Dan McCoy

[1:38:01] yeah

[1:38:01] let's do

[1:38:03] one more

[1:38:04] letter here

[1:38:05] this is from

[1:38:06] Anne Marie

[1:38:07] last name

[1:38:08] withheld

[1:38:08] who writes

[1:38:08] my husband

[1:38:10] and I

[1:38:10] were recently

[1:38:11] watching a

[1:38:11] mystery show

[1:38:12] which prominently

[1:38:13] featured a woman

[1:38:13] being pregnant

[1:38:14] as a plot

[1:38:15] point

[1:38:15] evidenced by

[1:38:17] her vomiting

[1:38:18] in earshot

[1:38:19] of a witness

[1:38:19] in movies

Elliott Kalan

[1:38:21] and TVs

[1:38:22] a woman

[1:38:22] vomits

[1:38:22] they must be

[1:38:23] pregnant

[1:38:23] yeah

Dan McCoy

[1:38:23] I was ready

[1:38:24] to be

[1:38:24] angry

[1:38:25] vomiting a

Elliott Kalan

[1:38:25] tiny spot

[1:38:26] of blood

[1:38:26] into a

[1:38:27] handkerchief

[1:38:27] in which

[1:38:27] case

[1:38:27] they have

[1:38:28] consumption

Dan McCoy

[1:38:28] yeah

[1:38:28] oh man

[1:38:29] is that vomit

Stuart Wellington

[1:38:32] to be

[1:38:32] it's a real

[1:38:33] nurse holiday

Dan McCoy

[1:38:35] to be angry

[1:38:35] on Stuart's

[1:38:36] behalf

[1:38:36] at the laziness

[1:38:37] of this trope

[1:38:38] until the end

[1:38:38] of the episode

[1:38:39] which featured

[1:38:40] a twist

[1:38:40] where it turned

[1:38:41] out that she

[1:38:41] wasn't pregnant

[1:38:42] at all

[1:38:42] she'd just

[1:38:43] gotten such

[1:38:44] horrific

[1:38:44] and disgusting

[1:38:45] personal news

[1:38:46] she could only

[1:38:47] react by throwing

[1:38:48] up

[1:38:48] have you ever

[1:38:50] had a movie

[1:38:51] or TV show

[1:38:52] subvert a trope

[1:38:53] you hated

[1:38:53] into something

[1:38:54] much more

[1:38:55] interesting

[1:38:55] love Anne-Marie

[1:38:57] like I know

[1:38:59] there's

[1:38:59] better

[1:39:01] answers out

[1:39:02] there

[1:39:02] but for some

[1:39:02] reason what's

[1:39:03] coming into my

[1:39:04] head is like

[1:39:04] a movie that's

[1:39:06] all about

[1:39:07] subverting a trope

[1:39:07] when I first saw

[1:39:09] My Best Friend's

[1:39:11] Wedding

[1:39:11] I really appreciated

[1:39:12] that it was not

[1:39:15] a movie that

[1:39:15] like cavalierly

[1:39:16] had a hero

[1:39:17] ruining a wedding

[1:39:19] and we're all

[1:39:20] supposed to root

[1:39:20] for them

[1:39:21] like over the

[1:39:22] course of the

[1:39:22] movie

[1:39:23] you're like

[1:39:24] oh okay

[1:39:25] no no

[1:39:26] this is not

[1:39:26] good behavior

[1:39:27] that's going on

[1:39:28] and I really

[1:39:29] appreciated that

Stuart Wellington

[1:39:30] America's sweetheart

[1:39:30] in that role

[1:39:31] that's true

[1:39:32] I think

[1:39:34] the first one

[1:39:35] that comes to

[1:39:35] mind

[1:39:35] is the

[1:39:37] I think

[1:39:38] the original

[1:39:39] might be in

[1:39:39] there as well

[1:39:40] but in the

[1:39:40] Gore Verbinski

[1:39:41] The Ring

[1:39:42] the moment where

[1:39:43] the character

[1:39:45] has worked so

[1:39:45] hard to try

[1:39:46] and appease

[1:39:46] this ghost

[1:39:47] and the

[1:39:48] this is a

[1:39:49] spoiler

[1:39:49] but her son

[1:39:50] is like

[1:39:50] why did you

[1:39:51] help her

[1:39:51] like I love

Dan McCoy

[1:39:52] that reaction

[1:39:53] where he's like

Stuart Wellington

[1:39:54] why did you

[1:39:54] do that mom

[1:39:55] it's so funny

S3

[1:39:56] I think for me

[1:39:58] it's a whole

[1:39:59] subset

[1:39:59] of

[1:40:01] the

[1:40:02] Kathy Bates

[1:40:03] has actually

[1:40:04] made this

[1:40:05] the latter part

[1:40:06] of her career

[1:40:07] which is the

[1:40:08] middle aged

[1:40:09] invisible woman

[1:40:10] being utilized

[1:40:12] in a way

[1:40:13] that's really

[1:40:13] spectacular

[1:40:14] we first

[1:40:15] we first

S3

[1:40:15] see it

[1:40:15] in

[1:40:15] six feet

[1:40:16] under

[1:40:16] where

[1:40:17] Kathy Bates

[1:40:18] character

[1:40:18] shoplifts

[1:40:20] and they

[1:40:21] ask her

[1:40:22] why

[1:40:22] and she's

[1:40:23] like

[1:40:23] because

[1:40:23] I realized

[1:40:24] that middle

[1:40:25] aged fat

[1:40:25] women are

[1:40:26] invisible

[1:40:27] and so

[1:40:28] I just

[1:40:28] started

[1:40:28] deciding

[1:40:29] to

[1:40:29] do

[1:40:30] some

[1:40:30] shit

[1:40:31] you know

[1:40:31] I'm gonna

[1:40:31] pull some

[1:40:32] shenanigans

[1:40:33] and she

[1:40:34] goes

[1:40:34] and then

[1:40:34] they make

[1:40:35] the revamp

[1:40:37] of Matlock

[1:40:37] all about

[1:40:38] that

[1:40:39] this idea

[1:40:40] but it

[1:40:40] it

[1:40:41] it

[1:40:42] hearkens

[1:40:42] to

[1:40:42] the

[1:40:43] 60s

[1:40:44] 70s

[1:40:44] Ruth

[1:40:45] Gordon

[1:40:45] old lady

[1:40:47] shenanigans

Elliott Kalan

[1:40:48] where she can

[1:40:49] get away

[1:40:49] with whatever

[1:40:50] because she's

[1:40:50] an old lady

[1:40:51] right

[1:40:51] exactly

[1:40:52] and then she

[1:40:53] like raps

[1:40:54] and you're

[1:40:54] like okay

[1:40:55] yeah she raps

Dan McCoy

[1:40:57] about Rosemary's

[1:40:58] baby

[1:40:58] and it would

[1:41:01] go something

[1:41:02] like

[1:41:02] Elliot

[1:41:03] no

[1:41:04] don't encourage

[1:41:05] this

[1:41:06] who did

Elliott Kalan

[1:41:06] she lie

[1:41:07] just look

[1:41:07] at those

[1:41:07] eyes

[1:41:08] that kind

[1:41:08] of stuff

[1:41:08] yeah

[1:41:09] yeah

[1:41:10] I knew

[1:41:10] he'd

[1:41:11] do it

[1:41:12] my name

[1:41:13] is Satan

[1:41:14] and I'm

[1:41:14] here to

[1:41:15] say

[1:41:15] let me tell

[1:41:18] you about

[1:41:18] a couple

[1:41:18] that got

[1:41:19] a new

[1:41:19] place

[1:41:19] suddenly

[1:41:22] there's

[1:41:22] devil

[1:41:23] all up

[1:41:23] in her

[1:41:23] face

[1:41:24] he is

[1:41:25] in her

[1:41:26] face

[1:41:26] that's

[1:41:27] why

[1:41:28] oh

[1:41:28] my god

[1:41:32] ruining

[1:41:34] his

[1:41:35] acting

[1:41:35] career

[1:41:36] but you

[1:41:36] gotta

[1:41:36] ask

[1:41:37] hey

[1:41:37] what

[1:41:37] you

[1:41:37] doing

[1:41:37] over

[1:41:38] here

[1:41:38] okay

[1:41:39] so that

[1:41:39] was

Stuart Wellington

[1:41:40] letters

[1:41:40] I just

[1:41:40] want to

[1:41:41] touch on

[1:41:41] real quick

[1:41:41] a couple

[1:41:43] episodes ago

[1:41:44] we were talking

[1:41:45] about summer

[1:41:45] movie memories

[1:41:46] and I asked

[1:41:47] you all to

[1:41:47] chime in

[1:41:48] in the comments

[1:41:49] on the

[1:41:50] Instagram post

[1:41:51] some actual

[1:41:51] follow up

[1:41:52] on the

[1:41:52] actual

[1:41:52] follow up

[1:41:53] pretty

[1:41:54] professional

[1:41:54] follow up

[1:41:56] so I'm

[1:41:56] just

[1:41:57] we had

[1:41:57] a ton

[1:41:57] of

[1:41:58] great

[1:41:58] responses

[1:41:58] but I

[1:41:59] just

[1:41:59] want to

[1:41:59] share

[1:41:59] two

[1:42:00] of

[1:42:00] my

[1:42:00] favorites

[1:42:01] I'll

[1:42:01] share

[1:42:01] them

[1:42:01] with

[1:42:01] you

[1:42:02] now

[1:42:02] the

[1:42:02] first

[1:42:02] is

[1:42:03] from

[1:42:03] Kate

[1:42:03] Kleinworth

[1:42:04] and her

[1:42:05] memory

[1:42:05] is that

[1:42:05] my mom

[1:42:06] used to

[1:42:06] drop

[1:42:07] me and

[1:42:07] my little

[1:42:07] sister

[1:42:08] off

[1:42:08] at

[1:42:08] movie

[1:42:08] matinees

[1:42:09] during the

[1:42:09] summer

[1:42:09] giving us

[1:42:10] each

[1:42:10] a $5

[1:42:11] bill

[1:42:11] for tickets

[1:42:12] and a

[1:42:12] snack

[1:42:13] once

[1:42:14] she

[1:42:14] accidentally

[1:42:15] gave us

[1:42:15] $20

[1:42:16] by mistake

[1:42:17] to go see

[1:42:17] the

[1:42:18] Rocketeer

[1:42:18] this was

[1:42:19] like

[1:42:19] this was

[1:42:20] like a

[1:42:21] million

[1:42:21] in

[1:42:22] today's

[1:42:22] money

[1:42:22] my

[1:42:23] sister

[1:42:23] and I

[1:42:23] stared at

[1:42:24] the

[1:42:24] money

[1:42:24] at

[1:42:25] each

[1:42:25] other

[1:42:25] and

[1:42:25] then

[1:42:25] ran

[1:42:26] to

[1:42:26] concessions

[1:42:26] we

[1:42:27] bought

[1:42:27] junior

[1:42:27] mints

[1:42:27] we

[1:42:27] bought

[1:42:28] those

[1:42:28] giant

[1:42:28] Reese's

[1:42:29] cups

[1:42:29] we

[1:42:29] bought

[1:42:29] popcorn

[1:42:30] we

[1:42:30] got

[1:42:30] coke

[1:42:30] we

[1:42:31] got

[1:42:31] Sprite

[1:42:31] we

[1:42:31] spent

[1:42:32] every

[1:42:32] single

[1:42:33] penny

[1:42:33] it

[1:42:34] was

[1:42:34] the

[1:42:34] best

[1:42:34] time

[1:42:34] ever

[1:42:35] at

[1:42:35] the

[1:42:35] movies

[1:42:35] something

[1:42:35] my

[1:42:36] sister

[1:42:36] and I

[1:42:36] both

[1:42:36] look

[1:42:37] back

[1:42:37] on

[1:42:37] fondly

[1:42:37] to

[1:42:37] this

[1:42:38] day

[1:42:38] neither

[1:42:38] of us

[1:42:38] remember

[1:42:39] a

[1:42:39] single

[1:42:39] thing

[1:42:40] about

[1:42:40] the

[1:42:40] rocketeer

[1:42:41] that's

[1:42:42] your

[1:42:42] loss

[1:42:42] but

[1:42:43] I'm

[1:42:43] like

[1:42:44] that

[1:42:44] totally

[1:42:44] makes

[1:42:45] sense

[1:42:45] also

[1:42:45] when I

[1:42:46] was

[1:42:46] a

[1:42:46] kid

[1:42:46] if

[1:42:46] I

[1:42:46] was

[1:42:47] given

[1:42:47] twenty

[1:42:47] dollars

[1:42:47] I'm

[1:42:48] like

[1:42:48] there

[1:42:49] is

[1:42:49] not

[1:42:49] even

[1:42:49] going to

[1:42:49] be

[1:42:49] a

[1:42:50] single

[1:42:50] penny

[1:42:50] left

[1:42:50] I'm

[1:42:51] going

[1:42:51] to

[1:42:51] spend

[1:42:51] every

[1:42:51] single

[1:42:52] thing

[1:42:52] which

[1:42:52] is

[1:42:52] something

[1:42:52] my

[1:42:53] father

[1:42:53] still

[1:42:53] complains

[1:42:54] about

[1:42:54] so

[1:42:57] I

[1:42:57] think

[1:42:57] that's

[1:42:57] lovely

[1:42:58] that is

[1:42:58] a

[1:42:58] great

[1:42:58] movie

[1:42:59] memory

[1:42:59] and

[1:43:00] snacks

[1:43:01] okay

[1:43:01] here's

[1:43:01] another

[1:43:01] good

[1:43:01] one

[1:43:02] this

[1:43:02] is

[1:43:02] from

[1:43:03] schmunk

[1:43:03] 241

[1:43:04] when

[1:43:05] I

[1:43:05] was

[1:43:05] about

[1:43:05] 12

[1:43:06] or

[1:43:06] 13

[1:43:06] I

[1:43:06] went

[1:43:06] to

[1:43:06] the

[1:43:07] cinema

[1:43:07] so

[1:43:07] that's

[1:43:08] that's

[1:43:08] a

[1:43:08] clue

[1:43:08] we

[1:43:09] got

[1:43:09] a

[1:43:09] UK

[1:43:10] listener

[1:43:10] on

[1:43:10] our

[1:43:11] hands

[1:43:11] or

[1:43:12] a

[1:43:12] pretentious

[1:43:13] person

[1:43:13] I

[1:43:15] went

[1:43:15] yeah

[1:43:16] went to

[1:43:17] the

[1:43:17] cinema

[1:43:17] to see

[1:43:18] the

[1:43:18] scorpion

[1:43:18] king

[1:43:19] maybe

[1:43:20] not

[1:43:20] so

[1:43:20] pretentious

[1:43:21] you

[1:43:21] know

Elliott Kalan

[1:43:21] what

[1:43:21] let's

[1:43:22] go

[1:43:22] back

[1:43:22] to

[1:43:22] UK

[1:43:22] on

[1:43:22] this

[1:43:22] one

[1:43:23] I

Stuart Wellington

[1:43:23] was

[1:43:23] not

[1:43:24] a

[1:43:24] discerning

[1:43:24] viewer

[1:43:25] at

[1:43:25] the

[1:43:25] time

[1:43:25] I

[1:43:25] read

[1:43:26] about

[1:43:26] it

[1:43:26] in

[1:43:26] Empire

[1:43:27] magazine

[1:43:27] I

[1:43:30] was

[1:43:32] not

[1:43:32] a

[1:43:33] viewer

[1:43:33] at

[1:43:33] the

[1:43:33] time

[1:43:34] but

[1:43:34] I

[1:43:34] hopped

[1:43:34] on

[1:43:35] a

[1:43:35] double

[1:43:35] decker

[1:43:35] bus

[1:43:36] to

[1:43:36] get

[1:43:36] there

[1:43:36] that's

[1:43:37] another

[1:43:37] clue

[1:43:38] Sherlock

[1:43:39] Dan

[1:43:39] this

[1:43:40] one

[1:43:40] I

Dan McCoy

[1:43:42] don't

[1:43:42] know

[1:43:42] were there

[1:43:43] crumpets

[1:43:43] for sale

Stuart Wellington

[1:43:44] did he

[1:43:45] say

[1:43:45] which

[1:43:45] side

[1:43:45] of

[1:43:45] the

[1:43:45] road

[1:43:46] it

[1:43:46] was

[1:43:46] on

[1:43:46] yeah

[1:43:46] I

[1:43:50] was

[1:43:50] not

[1:43:50] a

[1:43:50] Londoner

[1:43:50] okay

[1:43:51] no clue

[1:43:51] there

[1:43:51] I

[1:43:53] was

[1:43:53] not

[1:43:53] a

[1:43:54] viewer

[1:43:54] at

[1:43:56] the

[1:43:56] time

[1:43:56] but

[1:43:56] even

[1:43:57] I

[1:43:57] hated it

S3

[1:44:00] another

[1:44:00] clue

[1:44:01] how

[1:44:01] is

[1:44:01] this

[1:44:01] going

[1:44:01] to

[1:44:01] help

[1:44:02] us

[1:44:02] find

[1:44:02] Tatiana

[1:44:03] and

[1:44:05] my

Stuart Wellington

[1:44:05] mate

[1:44:05] tells

[1:44:05] me

[1:44:06] he

[1:44:06] snuck

[1:44:06] into

[1:44:07] a

[1:44:07] Resident

[1:44:08] Evil

[1:44:08] showing

[1:44:08] and

[1:44:09] asked

[1:44:09] if

[1:44:09] I

[1:44:10] wanted

[1:44:10] to

[1:44:10] go

[1:44:10] see

[1:44:10] it

[1:44:10] too

[1:44:11] my

[1:44:11] first

[1:44:12] R

[1:44:12] rated

[1:44:12] movie

[1:44:13] I

[1:44:14] was

[1:44:14] excited

[1:44:14] and

[1:44:14] maybe

[1:44:15] a

[1:44:15] little

[1:44:15] scared

[1:44:15] but

[1:44:16] I

[1:44:16] said

[1:44:16] yes

[1:44:17] so

[1:44:18] we're

[1:44:18] in

[1:44:18] the

[1:44:18] theater

[1:44:18] we

[1:44:18] buy

[1:44:19] a

[1:44:19] couple

[1:44:19] of

[1:44:19] tickets

[1:44:19] to

[1:44:20] a

[1:44:20] showing

[1:44:20] of

[1:44:24] we

[1:44:24] sit

[1:44:25] down

[1:44:25] outside

[1:44:25] just

[1:44:25] waiting

[1:44:26] for

[1:44:26] our

[1:44:26] moment

[1:44:26] to

[1:44:27] sneak

[1:44:27] in

[1:44:27] which

[1:44:28] passes

[1:44:29] and

[1:44:29] we

[1:44:29] proceed

[1:44:29] to

[1:44:30] chicken

[1:44:30] out

[1:44:30] which

[1:44:30] is

[1:44:31] how

[1:44:31] I

[1:44:31] ended

[1:44:31] up

[1:44:31] seeing

[1:44:31] the

[1:44:32] Scorpion

[1:44:32] King

[1:44:32] twice

[1:44:32] in

[1:44:33] theaters

[1:44:33] like a

[1:44:33] true

[1:44:33] scorp head

[1:44:34] those

[1:44:37] were

Dan McCoy

[1:44:37] lovely

[1:44:37] thank you

[1:44:38] so

[1:44:38] much

[1:44:38] yeah

[1:44:39] so

[1:44:40] finally

[1:44:41] on the

[1:44:42] flop house

[1:44:42] we like

[1:44:42] to

[1:44:43] you know

[1:44:43] not

[1:44:44] wallow

[1:44:44] in

[1:44:45] negativity

[1:44:45] we like

[1:44:46] to

[1:44:46] recommend

[1:44:46] a few

[1:44:46] for too

[1:44:46] long

[1:44:47] you know

[1:44:47] we wallowed

[1:44:48] in it

[1:44:48] for a

[1:44:48] while

[1:44:48] for the

[1:44:49] lion's

[1:44:49] share

[1:44:49] of the

[1:44:50] podcast

[1:44:50] some

[1:44:50] would

[1:44:50] say

[1:44:51] but

[1:44:51] let's

[1:44:52] recommend

[1:44:52] some

[1:44:53] Dan

[1:44:53] we got

[1:44:54] we got

[1:44:54] to stop

[1:44:54] giving

[1:44:54] the

[1:44:55] lions

[1:44:55] such a

[1:44:55] big

[1:44:56] share

[1:44:56] of the

[1:44:56] podcast

Elliott Kalan

[1:44:56] I'm

[1:44:57] scared

[1:44:58] of it

[1:44:59] he could

[1:45:01] tank

[1:45:02] our

[1:45:02] careers

Dan McCoy

[1:45:02] MGM

Elliott Kalan

[1:45:05] lion

[1:45:05] he knows

[1:45:06] a lot

[1:45:06] of people

[1:45:06] in this

[1:45:07] town

Dan McCoy

[1:45:07] we've

[1:45:08] seen

[1:45:08] and would

[1:45:09] recommend

[1:45:09] perhaps

[1:45:10] in opposition

[1:45:11] to many

[1:45:12] of the

[1:45:12] films we

[1:45:12] watch

[1:45:12] for the

[1:45:13] for the

[1:45:14] podcast

[1:45:14] I would

[1:45:15] like to

[1:45:15] recommend

[1:45:16] I saw

[1:45:17] deep

[1:45:18] cover

[1:45:18] hell

[1:45:19] yeah

[1:45:19] it was

[1:45:20] going off

[1:45:20] the criterion

[1:45:22] channel

[1:45:23] I'm like

[1:45:23] I gotta

[1:45:24] see it

[1:45:24] while I

[1:45:25] can

[1:45:25] the

[1:45:26] opening

[1:45:26] credits

[1:45:27] of that

[1:45:27] movie

[1:45:27] are so

[1:45:28] fucking

[1:45:29] hard as

[1:45:29] hell

[1:45:29] man

[1:45:30] that movie

[1:45:30] rocks

[1:45:30] it's

[1:45:31] from

[1:45:31] 92

[1:45:32] directed

[1:45:32] by

[1:45:33] Bill

[1:45:33] Duke

[1:45:33] it stars

[1:45:34] Lawrence

[1:45:35] Fishburne

[1:45:35] and

[1:45:36] of course

[1:45:36] Jeff Goldblum

[1:45:37] as a

[1:45:38] sleazy

[1:45:39] lawyer

[1:45:39] both of

[1:45:41] them

[1:45:41] kind of

[1:45:42] at like

[1:45:42] the height

[1:45:42] of their

[1:45:43] movie star

[1:45:44] powers

[1:45:44] in that

[1:45:45] movie

[1:45:45] I think

[1:45:45] it's

[1:45:46] got a

[1:45:46] lot

[1:45:46] of

[1:45:47] crime

[1:45:48] thriller

[1:45:49] thrills

[1:45:51] but it's

[1:45:51] also

[1:45:52] a very

[1:45:52] kind of

[1:45:53] more

[1:45:54] thoughtful

[1:45:54] movie

[1:45:55] about

[1:45:55] the

[1:45:56] drug

[1:45:57] war

[1:45:57] and

[1:45:58] about

[1:45:58] it

[1:45:59] doesn't

[1:45:59] it does

[1:45:59] not

[1:46:00] exalt

[1:46:00] cops

[1:46:01] it

[1:46:01] shows

[1:46:02] them

[1:46:03] to be

[1:46:03] part

[1:46:03] of

[1:46:04] the

[1:46:04] same

[1:46:04] system

[1:46:05] that

[1:46:06] causes

[1:46:07] a lot

[1:46:07] of

[1:46:08] pain

[1:46:08] and

[1:46:09] it's

[1:46:10] a

[1:46:10] beautiful

[1:46:11] looking

[1:46:11] movie

[1:46:11] it's

[1:46:12] so

[1:46:12] beautifully

[1:46:13] shot

Stuart Wellington

[1:46:13] and all

[1:46:13] this

[1:46:13] from a

[1:46:14] guy

[1:46:14] whose

[1:46:15] head

[1:46:15] got

[1:46:15] blasted

[1:46:15] apart

[1:46:16] by

[1:46:16] predator

[1:46:16] and predator

Elliott Kalan

[1:46:17] he

[1:46:18] really

[1:46:19] came back

[1:46:19] from the

[1:46:19] head

[1:46:20] being

[1:46:20] busted

[1:46:20] by the

[1:46:21] predator

Dan McCoy

[1:46:23] Stuart

Stuart Wellington

[1:46:25] do you want to

[1:46:25] go

[1:46:25] I'm going to

[1:46:26] recommend

[1:46:26] a movie

[1:46:27] I saw

[1:46:27] a little

[1:46:27] while ago

[1:46:28] from a

[1:46:29] year or

[1:46:29] two ago

[1:46:29] called

[1:46:30] The Order

[1:46:31] this is a

[1:46:32] movie based

[1:46:32] on a

[1:46:32] true story

[1:46:33] about a

[1:46:34] I believe

[1:46:35] FBI

[1:46:36] involvement

[1:46:38] in the

[1:46:39] 70s

[1:46:39] where they're

[1:46:40] cracking down

[1:46:41] on a

[1:46:42] white supremacist

[1:46:42] organization

[1:46:43] that

[1:46:43] funds

[1:46:44] their operation

[1:46:45] by robbing

[1:46:46] banks

[1:46:46] the

[1:46:47] movie stars

[1:46:48] Jude Law

[1:46:49] in like

[1:46:50] kind of

[1:46:51] amazing

[1:46:52] like

[1:46:52] run down

[1:46:53] grizzled

[1:46:53] dirt bag

[1:46:54] Jude Law

[1:46:54] and I

[1:46:55] kind of

[1:46:55] love it

[1:46:56] it's

[1:46:56] totally

[1:46:56] working

[1:46:57] for me

[1:46:57] mustache

[1:46:57] two thumbs

[1:46:58] up

[1:46:58] and

[1:46:59] he is

[1:47:00] opposed

[1:47:01] by

[1:47:01] the leader

[1:47:02] of the

[1:47:02] white supremacist

[1:47:03] organization

[1:47:04] is played

[1:47:04] by

[1:47:04] Nicholas Holt

[1:47:05] who is

[1:47:06] really

[1:47:06] like

[1:47:06] trading

[1:47:07] on those

[1:47:08] like

[1:47:08] those

[1:47:09] like

[1:47:09] baby face

[1:47:10] innocent

[1:47:11] like

[1:47:11] looks

[1:47:12] to be

[1:47:13] this

[1:47:13] like

[1:47:13] you know

[1:47:14] evil

[1:47:15] jerk

[1:47:15] it's

[1:47:17] really

[1:47:17] good

[1:47:17] if

[1:47:17] you're

[1:47:17] looking

[1:47:18] for

[1:47:18] just

[1:47:18] kind

[1:47:18] of

[1:47:18] like

[1:47:18] a

[1:47:19] small

[1:47:19] like

[1:47:20] a

[1:47:20] small

[1:47:20] super

[1:47:21] tense

[1:47:21] little

[1:47:21] thriller

[1:47:22] Elliot

[1:47:23] would you

[1:47:23] like to

Elliott Kalan

[1:47:24] oh sure

[1:47:24] I was

[1:47:24] going to

[1:47:25] go next

[1:47:25] I'll

[1:47:26] recommend

[1:47:27] a movie

[1:47:27] that

[1:47:27] so

[1:47:28] we

[1:47:28] watched

[1:47:28] Lumina

[1:47:29] on

[1:47:29] Tubi

[1:47:30] and I

[1:47:30] was

[1:47:30] like

[1:47:31] I

[1:47:31] want

[1:47:31] to

[1:47:31] watch

[1:47:32] another

[1:47:32] movie

[1:47:32] that's

[1:47:33] not

[1:47:33] Lumina

[1:47:34] but I'm

[1:47:34] still

[1:47:34] on

[1:47:35] Tubi

[1:47:35] wait a

[1:47:36] minute

[1:47:36] this

[1:47:36] movie

[1:47:36] I

[1:47:36] wanted

[1:47:36] to

[1:47:37] see

[1:47:37] is

[1:47:37] on

[1:47:37] here

[1:47:37] what's

[1:47:37] this

[1:47:38] movie

[1:47:38] it's

[1:47:38] the

[1:47:38] one

[1:47:38] we've

[1:47:38] all

[1:47:38] been

[1:47:39] waiting

[1:47:39] for

[1:47:39] that's

[1:47:39] right

[1:47:39] heroic

[1:47:40] times

[1:47:40] this

[1:47:41] is

[1:47:41] a

[1:47:41] Hungarian

[1:47:41] animated

[1:47:42] movie

[1:47:42] from

[1:47:42] 1984

[1:47:43] that is

[1:47:44] a

[1:47:45] it's

[1:47:45] an

[1:47:45] adaptation

[1:47:46] of a

[1:47:46] 19th

[1:47:47] century

[1:47:48] epic

[1:47:48] about

[1:47:49] a

[1:47:49] medieval

[1:47:49] night

[1:47:49] in

[1:47:50] Hungary

[1:47:51] in the

[1:47:51] 14th

[1:47:52] century

[1:47:52] and

[1:47:53] it is

[1:47:54] so beautifully

[1:47:55] animated

[1:47:55] it looks

[1:47:56] so gorgeous

[1:47:56] it's

[1:47:57] like

[1:47:57] watching

[1:47:57] paintings

[1:47:58] moving

[1:47:58] and

[1:47:59] it's

[1:48:00] all

[1:48:00] about

[1:48:00] it's

[1:48:00] a

[1:48:01] being

[1:48:01] an

[1:48:02] Eastern

[1:48:02] European

[1:48:02] movie

[1:48:03] it

[1:48:03] cannot

[1:48:03] just

[1:48:03] be

[1:48:04] about

[1:48:04] a

[1:48:04] hero

[1:48:05] of

[1:48:05] medieval

[1:48:05] times

[1:48:05] it has

[1:48:06] to be

[1:48:06] about

[1:48:06] how

[1:48:06] this

[1:48:06] guy

[1:48:07] becomes

[1:48:07] a

[1:48:07] knight

[1:48:07] and

[1:48:07] destroys

[1:48:08] his

[1:48:08] life

[1:48:09] and

[1:48:09] becomes

[1:48:09] disillusioned

[1:48:10] with the

[1:48:10] very

[1:48:10] idea

[1:48:11] of

[1:48:11] nobility

[1:48:11] and

[1:48:13] serving

[1:48:14] the

[1:48:14] king

[1:48:15] it's

[1:48:16] a

[1:48:16] short

[1:48:16] movie

[1:48:16] it's

[1:48:17] like

[1:48:17] a

[1:48:17] little

[1:48:18] bit

[1:48:18] less

[1:48:18] than

[1:48:18] an

[1:48:18] hour

[1:48:18] and

[1:48:18] a

[1:48:18] half

[1:48:18] it

[1:48:19] looks

[1:48:19] gorgeous

[1:48:19] I

[1:48:20] think

[1:48:21] it's

[1:48:21] really

[1:48:21] good

[1:48:21] it's

[1:48:21] called

[1:48:22] heroic

[1:48:22] times

Dan McCoy

[1:48:23] now

[1:48:24] before

[1:48:24] Ashley

[1:48:24] goes

[1:48:25] I

[1:48:25] checked

[1:48:26] the

[1:48:27] letterbox

[1:48:27] list

[1:48:28] where

[1:48:28] you

[1:48:29] can

[1:48:29] find

[1:48:29] all

[1:48:30] of

[1:48:30] our

[1:48:30] recommendations

[1:48:30] just to

[1:48:31] confirm

[1:48:31] that

[1:48:31] Stuart

[1:48:32] has

[1:48:33] recommended

[1:48:33] the

[1:48:33] order

[1:48:34] before

[1:48:34] so

[1:48:34] I'm

[1:48:34] going to

[1:48:35] assume

[1:48:35] that

[1:48:35] your

[1:48:35] recommendation

[1:48:36] for this

[1:48:37] week

[1:48:37] will

[1:48:37] be

[1:48:38] It's

[1:48:38] Alive 3

[1:48:39] Island of the

[1:48:39] Alive

[1:48:40] which we

[1:48:40] saw

Stuart Wellington

[1:48:41] together

[1:48:41] oh

[1:48:41] yeah

[1:48:41] I'll

[1:48:42] also

[1:48:42] recommend

[1:48:42] It's

[1:48:43] Alive 3

[1:48:43] Island of the

[1:48:44] Alive

[1:48:44] Michael

[1:48:45] Moriarty

[1:48:45] gives

[1:48:45] possibly the

[1:48:46] most unhinged

[1:48:47] performance

[1:48:47] I've

[1:48:48] ever

[1:48:48] seen

[1:48:48] on

[1:48:49] screen

[1:48:49] and

[1:48:50] you

[1:48:50] know

[1:48:50] what

[1:48:51] monster

[1:48:51] babies

[1:48:51] you gotta

[1:48:53] see them

[1:48:53] they freak

[1:48:53] me out

[1:48:54] yeah

Elliott Kalan

[1:48:55] that's

[1:48:55] the one

[1:48:56] where

[1:48:56] it's

[1:48:56] implied

[1:48:56] that the

[1:48:57] monster

[1:48:58] babies

[1:48:58] are having

[1:48:58] monster

[1:48:58] babies

[1:48:59] right

Dan McCoy

[1:48:59] it's

[1:49:00] more than

[1:49:01] implied

[1:49:01] pretty much

[1:49:05] text

[1:49:05] we

Stuart Wellington

[1:49:06] do not

Dan McCoy

[1:49:09] see

[1:49:09] monster

[1:49:10] babies

[1:49:10] copulating

[1:49:12] with one

[1:49:12] another

[1:49:13] speak

[1:49:13] for

[1:49:13] yourself

[1:49:14] Dan

[1:49:14] anyway

[1:49:16] I paid

[1:49:17] for my

Stuart Wellington

[1:49:18] ticket

[1:49:18] I'm

[1:49:19] gonna

[1:49:19] see

[1:49:19] it

[1:49:19] for

S3

[1:49:22] sure

[1:49:22] I do

[1:49:22] I

[1:49:24] hope

[1:49:24] you guys

[1:49:24] haven't

[1:49:25] recommended

[1:49:25] this

[1:49:25] before

[1:49:25] I mean

[1:49:26] if you

[1:49:26] have

[1:49:26] you have

[1:49:27] great

[1:49:27] taste

[1:49:27] I

[1:49:28] think

[1:49:29] I

[1:49:29] would

[1:49:29] with

[1:49:29] my

[1:49:30] one

[1:49:30] shot

[1:49:31] at

[1:49:31] this

[1:49:31] because

[1:49:31] I

[1:49:31] can't

[1:49:32] imagine

[1:49:32] ever

[1:49:32] coming

[1:49:33] back

[1:49:33] here

[1:49:34] I

[1:49:34] assume

[1:49:37] because

[1:49:37] I

[1:49:37] would

[1:49:37] not

[1:49:37] be

[1:49:38] invited

[1:49:38] the

[1:49:39] way

[1:49:40] I

[1:49:41] got

[1:49:41] naked

[1:49:41] at

[1:49:42] the

[1:49:42] prom

[1:49:42] and

[1:49:43] ran

[1:49:43] around

[1:49:43] and

[1:49:44] stuff

[1:49:44] I

[1:49:44] figured

[1:49:45] ran

[1:49:45] around

[1:49:46] yeah

[1:49:47] we

[1:49:47] cut

[1:49:48] out

[1:49:48] a lot

[1:49:49] of

[1:49:49] stuff

[1:49:50] that

[1:49:50] was

[1:49:50] going

[1:49:50] on

[1:49:50] yeah

[1:49:50] I've

[1:49:51] got

[1:49:52] to

[1:49:52] recommend

[1:49:52] we

[1:49:52] are

[1:49:53] the

[1:49:53] best

[1:49:53] we

[1:49:54] are

[1:49:55] the

[1:49:55] best

[1:49:55] exclamation

[1:49:55] point

[1:49:56] Swedish

[1:49:57] film

[1:49:57] by

[1:49:57] Lucas

[1:49:58] Moody

[1:49:58] in

[1:49:59] 2013

[1:50:00] which

[1:50:01] is

[1:50:01] about

[1:50:02] a

[1:50:02] group

[1:50:03] of

[1:50:03] preteen

[1:50:04] girls

[1:50:05] in the

[1:50:06] 80s

[1:50:06] who

[1:50:07] form

[1:50:07] a

[1:50:07] punk

[1:50:08] band

[1:50:08] mostly

[1:50:10] to

[1:50:12] talk

[1:50:13] about

[1:50:13] their

[1:50:14] burgeoning

[1:50:14] feelings

[1:50:15] and

[1:50:15] their

[1:50:15] frustrations

[1:50:16] but

[1:50:16] also

[1:50:16] to

[1:50:17] piss

[1:50:17] off

[1:50:17] the

[1:50:17] metal

[1:50:18] guys

[1:50:18] that

[1:50:19] are

[1:50:19] taking

[1:50:19] over

[1:50:19] the

[1:50:20] rec

[1:50:20] center's

[1:50:20] one

[1:50:21] rehearsal

[1:50:21] room

[1:50:21] it's

[1:50:23] great

[1:50:23] it's

[1:50:24] really

[1:50:24] motivational

[1:50:25] irreverent

[1:50:27] really

[1:50:29] inspiring

[1:50:31] and I

[1:50:32] don't

[1:50:32] love

[1:50:34] using

[1:50:34] that

[1:50:34] word

[1:50:35] because

[1:50:35] I

[1:50:35] think

[1:50:35] it's

[1:50:36] been

[1:50:36] hallmarked

[1:50:37] a lot

[1:50:38] and

[1:50:38] lifetime

[1:50:38] movie

[1:50:39] a lot

[1:50:39] but

[1:50:39] it

[1:50:39] really

[1:50:39] is

[1:50:40] like

[1:50:40] these

[1:50:40] kids

[1:50:40] are

[1:50:40] so

[1:50:41] punk

[1:50:41] rock

[1:50:41] they

[1:50:42] meet

[1:50:43] a

[1:50:44] girl

[1:50:44] who's

[1:50:45] the

[1:50:45] only

[1:50:45] one

[1:50:46] that

[1:50:46] can

[1:50:46] play

[1:50:46] her

[1:50:46] real

[1:50:47] instrument

[1:50:47] and

[1:50:48] is

[1:50:48] also

[1:50:48] from

[1:50:49] a

[1:50:49] fundamentalist

[1:50:49] Christian

[1:50:50] family

[1:50:50] which

[1:50:51] scans

[1:50:51] to me

[1:50:52] and

[1:50:53] they're

[1:50:53] like

[1:50:54] well

[1:50:54] we

[1:50:54] can't

[1:50:54] play

[1:50:54] shit

[1:50:55] but

[1:50:55] we're

[1:50:55] gonna

[1:50:55] shave

[1:50:55] your

[1:50:55] head

[1:50:56] and

[1:50:57] let's

[1:50:57] all

[1:50:57] go

[1:50:57] and

[1:50:58] it's

[1:50:59] delightful

[1:51:00] it's

[1:51:01] small

[1:51:01] it's

[1:51:02] fun

[1:51:02] it's

[1:51:03] sweet

[1:51:04] it's

[1:51:05] tough

[1:51:05] it's

[1:51:05] coming

[1:51:06] of

[1:51:06] age

[1:51:06] uh

[1:51:07] Mira

[1:51:07] Barkson

[1:51:08] who

[1:51:08] plays

[1:51:09] the

[1:51:10] main

[1:51:10] uh

[1:51:11] lead

[1:51:12] singer

[1:51:12] of

[1:51:12] this

[1:51:12] group

[1:51:13] and

[1:51:13] sort

[1:51:13] of

[1:51:13] the

[1:51:14] Kathleen

[1:51:14] Hannah

[1:51:15] uh

[1:51:16] driver

[1:51:16] of

[1:51:17] this

[1:51:18] band

[1:51:18] uh

[1:51:19] is

[1:51:20] fantastic

[1:51:20] I've

[1:51:21] seen

[1:51:21] her

[1:51:21] in

[1:51:22] nothing

[1:51:22] else

[1:51:23] I

[1:51:23] actually

[1:51:23] did

[1:51:24] not

[1:51:24] know

[1:51:24] a

[1:51:24] single

[1:51:25] actor

[1:51:26] in

[1:51:26] this

[1:51:26] cast

[1:51:27] but

[1:51:27] they're

[1:51:27] all

[1:51:28] pretty

[1:51:28] great

[1:51:28] and

[1:51:29] I

[1:51:30] just

[1:51:30] love

[1:51:31] it

[1:51:31] makes

[1:51:31] me

[1:51:31] happy

[1:51:32] makes

[1:51:33] me

[1:51:33] want

[1:51:33] to

[1:51:33] go

[1:51:33] blow

[1:51:34] shit

[1:51:34] up

Stuart Wellington

[1:51:34] that's

[1:51:34] like

[1:51:34] five

[1:51:35] recommendations

[1:51:36] yeah

[1:51:36] we did

[1:51:37] we did

[1:51:37] great

[1:51:37] guys

[1:51:38] yeah

[1:51:38] we went

[1:51:39] above and

[1:51:39] beyond

[1:51:39] yeah

Dan McCoy

[1:51:40] um

[1:51:41] well thank

[1:51:41] you so

[1:51:41] much for

[1:51:42] being here

[1:51:42] before

[1:51:43] we sign

[1:51:44] off

[1:51:44] is there

[1:51:44] anything

[1:51:44] you want

[1:51:45] to plug

[1:51:45] at all

[1:51:46] or

S3

[1:51:46] oh

[1:51:47] me

[1:51:47] yeah

[1:51:48] I was

[1:51:48] like

[1:51:49] Elliot

Elliott Kalan

[1:51:49] do you

[1:51:49] have

[1:51:49] something

[1:51:50] to plug

[1:51:50] I got

[1:51:52] plenty

[1:51:53] to plug

[1:51:53] so you

[1:51:53] can plug

[1:51:53] your own

[1:51:54] stuff

[1:51:54] yeah

[1:51:54] oh

S3

[1:51:55] great

[1:51:55] I've

[1:51:55] got a

[1:51:55] movie

[1:51:55] coming

[1:51:56] out

[1:51:56] called

[1:51:56] The

[1:51:57] Lost

[1:51:57] Bus

[1:51:57] uh

[1:51:58] it

[1:51:58] is

[1:51:59] uh

[1:52:00] directed

[1:52:00] by Paul

[1:52:01] Greengrass

[1:52:02] it was

[1:52:03] very

[1:52:03] cool to

[1:52:04] work with

[1:52:04] Paul

[1:52:04] Greengrass

[1:52:05] uh

[1:52:05] it's a

[1:52:06] movie about

[1:52:06] the

[1:52:06] 2018

[1:52:07] Campfire

[1:52:08] Fire

[1:52:08] which was

[1:52:08] the

[1:52:09] deadliest

[1:52:09] wildfire

[1:52:10] in

[1:52:10] California

[1:52:11] history

[1:52:11] uh

[1:52:12] and it

[1:52:13] stars

[1:52:13] Matthew

[1:52:14] McConaughey

[1:52:14] America

[1:52:15] America

[1:52:15] Ferreira

[1:52:16] Yul

[1:52:16] Vasquez

[1:52:17] and

[1:52:17] myself

[1:52:18] uh

[1:52:19] Matthew

[1:52:19] plays

[1:52:20] a true

[1:52:21] person

[1:52:21] uh

[1:52:22] named

[1:52:22] Kevin

[1:52:22] McKay

[1:52:23] who

[1:52:23] was

[1:52:24] a

[1:52:24] school

[1:52:24] bus

[1:52:24] driver

[1:52:25] who

[1:52:25] had

[1:52:25] not

[1:52:25] been

[1:52:25] working

[1:52:26] as a

[1:52:26] bus

[1:52:26] driver

[1:52:27] very

[1:52:27] long

[1:52:27] who

[1:52:28] is

[1:52:29] prevailed

[1:52:29] upon

[1:52:29] to

[1:52:30] rescue

[1:52:30] 22

[1:52:31] kids

[1:52:31] whose

[1:52:32] parents

[1:52:33] worked

[1:52:34] too

[1:52:34] far

[1:52:34] outside

[1:52:35] of the

[1:52:35] evacuation

[1:52:35] zone

[1:52:36] during

[1:52:37] the

[1:52:37] Paradise

[1:52:37] wildfires

[1:52:38] and

[1:52:40] then

[1:52:40] he

[1:52:40] battles

[1:52:41] his

[1:52:41] way

[1:52:41] through

[1:52:41] fire

[1:52:41] with

[1:52:42] America

[1:52:42] Ferreira

[1:52:42] for

[1:52:43] hours

[1:52:43] and hours

[1:52:44] and hours

Stuart Wellington

[1:52:44] and hours

[1:52:44] now I

[1:52:45] haven't

[1:52:45] I haven't

[1:52:46] seen the

[1:52:46] poster

[1:52:46] but here's

[1:52:47] my

[1:52:47] suggestion

[1:52:48] you take

[1:52:48] a bus

[1:52:48] and put

[1:52:49] it on

[1:52:49] a rock

S3

[1:52:51] on the top

[1:52:52] of the

[1:52:52] mountain

[1:52:52] balancing

[1:52:53] yeah

[1:52:54] balancing

[1:52:54] yeah

Dan McCoy

[1:52:54] I think

[1:52:55] that captures

[1:52:55] the tone

[1:52:56] you're probably

[1:52:56] looking for

[1:52:57] for sure

[1:52:57] actually

S3

[1:52:58] they did

[1:52:59] make a

[1:52:59] fake

[1:52:59] the letterbox

[1:53:01] for it

[1:53:01] was very

[1:53:01] funny

[1:53:02] for a while

[1:53:02] because

[1:53:03] somebody

[1:53:03] did make

[1:53:04] a poster

[1:53:04] in advance

[1:53:06] of the

[1:53:06] actual poster

[1:53:07] which was

[1:53:07] a very

[1:53:08] cartoon

[1:53:08] bus

[1:53:09] with

[1:53:09] sort of

[1:53:09] superimposed

[1:53:11] Matthew

[1:53:12] and

[1:53:12] America

[1:53:13] Ferreira

[1:53:13] heads on it

[1:53:14] it's pretty

[1:53:15] spectacular

Stuart Wellington

[1:53:16] and I don't

[1:53:17] know

[1:53:17] I don't

[1:53:17] know if

[1:53:18] there's

[1:53:18] been

[1:53:18] another

[1:53:18] trailer

[1:53:19] but the

[1:53:19] trailer

[1:53:19] I did

[1:53:20] see

[1:53:20] I think

[1:53:21] you're

[1:53:21] the only

[1:53:21] voice

[1:53:22] we hear

[1:53:22] yeah

[1:53:23] I'm not

S3

[1:53:24] visible

[1:53:24] which is

[1:53:25] how I

[1:53:25] prefer

[1:53:25] I prefer

[1:53:27] it

[1:53:27] I'd rather

[1:53:27] not be

[1:53:28] perceived

[1:53:29] visually

[1:53:29] in my

[1:53:30] trailers

[1:53:31] that's a

Stuart Wellington

[1:53:32] challenge

[1:53:32] for an

[1:53:32] actor

S3

[1:53:33] but I

[1:53:33] appreciate

[1:53:33] that

[1:53:34] I

[1:53:34] consider

[1:53:35] my

[1:53:35] limitations

[1:53:36] as

[1:53:36] freeing

[1:53:37] it's

[1:53:38] very

[1:53:38] liberating

[1:53:39] but yeah

[1:53:39] I've

[1:53:40] had to

[1:53:40] tell

[1:53:40] all of

[1:53:41] my

[1:53:42] relatives

[1:53:42] you have

[1:53:43] to watch

[1:53:43] this

[1:53:44] with the

[1:53:44] sound

[1:53:44] up

[1:53:45] or you're

[1:53:45] going to

[1:53:45] be confused

[1:53:46] why I sent

[1:53:46] it to you

[1:53:47] that's

Stuart Wellington

[1:53:50] great

[1:53:50] thank you

[1:53:52] Ashley

[1:53:53] and thank

[1:53:53] you to

[1:53:53] our

[1:53:53] network

[1:53:54] Maximum

[1:53:55] Fun

Dan McCoy

[1:53:55] go over

[1:53:56] to

[1:53:56] MaximumFun.org

[1:53:57] and check

[1:53:58] out all

[1:53:58] the other

[1:53:58] great shows

[1:53:59] on the

[1:54:00] network

[1:54:00] thank you

[1:54:01] to Alex

[1:54:02] Smith

[1:54:02] our producer

[1:54:03] he goes

[1:54:03] by the name

[1:54:04] Howl Dottie

[1:54:05] online

[1:54:06] where he

[1:54:06] makes music

[1:54:07] he does

[1:54:07] Twitch streams

[1:54:08] you can find

[1:54:09] his podcast

[1:54:10] which is

[1:54:10] very funny

[1:54:11] but that's

[1:54:13] it for us

[1:54:13] for the

[1:54:14] Flophouse

[1:54:14] I've been

[1:54:15] Dan McCoy

[1:54:16] I'm

[1:54:17] Stuart

[1:54:17] Wellington

S3

[1:54:17] I'm

[1:54:18] Ellie

[1:54:18] Kalin

[1:54:19] and I'm

[1:54:20] Ashley

[1:54:20] Atkinson

Stuart Wellington

[1:54:21] okay

[1:54:22] bye

[1:54:23] oh yeah

[1:54:32] and uh

[1:54:33] Ashley

[1:54:33] this isn't

[1:54:34] a clean

[1:54:34] podcast

[1:54:35] you can

[1:54:35] say

[1:54:35] whatever

[1:54:36] you want

[1:54:36] oh yeah

[1:54:37] we get

[1:54:38] raw

[1:54:38] shitballs

[1:54:39] shitballs

Elliott Kalan

[1:54:42] that's all

[1:54:43] the tip

[1:54:44] of the

S3

[1:54:44] shitberg

[1:54:45] yeah

[1:54:45] exactly

[1:54:46] there's a

[1:54:46] whole

[1:54:47] other

[1:54:47] shitberg

[1:54:48] underneath

[1:54:48] Maximum

[1:54:50] Fun

[1:54:51] a worker

[1:54:52] owned

[1:54:52] network

[1:54:52] of

[1:54:53] artists

[1:54:53] owned

[1:54:53] shows

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[1:54:55] directly

[1:54:56] by you

Ep.#460 - Lumina, with Ashlie Atkinson

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