Ep. #355 - Breaking News in Yuba County

[0:00] On this episode, we discuss breaking news from Yuba County in Yuba County.

[0:07] What is it?

[0:07] Breaking news in Yuba County?

[0:09] Breaking news in Yuba County.

[0:11] I'm glad that we nailed it in the first try, by the way.

[0:14] That's perfect.

[0:15] What a perfect intro.

[0:16] 100% flawless victory.

[0:30] Hey, and welcome to The Flop House.

[0:43] I'm Dan McCoy.

[0:44] Oh, hey there.

[0:45] It's me, Stuart Wellington.

[0:46] And I'm Elliot Kalin.

[0:48] That's my name.

[0:49] Sorry.

[0:50] That's just it.

[0:52] I'm not going to change it.

[0:53] You don't need to apologize for that.

[0:55] Your mouth says sorry.

[0:56] Your face says you don't actually care.

[0:58] Yeah.

[0:58] Well, it's a sorry, not sorry in SNS.

[1:01] Yeah.

[1:02] Now, what do you think we would have been mad at about your name?

[1:06] I mean, at this point, at this point, I'm just ready.

[1:09] I'm just ready for pushback no matter what happens.

[1:11] There was the first, there were all the Elliot Kalin name boosters.

[1:14] Then there was the backlash.

[1:15] Then there was the backlash to the backlash.

[1:17] The people were like, actually, it's a really good name.

[1:19] And the people were like, uh, despite this revisionist history, it's still a bad name.

[1:23] All the think pieces, all the tweets, I'm just over it.

[1:26] You know, it's my name's Elliot Kalin.

[1:28] Here to say, my name's Elliot Kalin.

[1:29] I made your way.

[1:30] That's just, that's all I've got about it.

[1:33] Okay.

[1:34] It seems like kind of a lazy, sounds like an epitaph to me.

[1:37] Uh, so, uh, what am I doing this podcast here?

[1:40] And my tombstone says, my name's Elliot Kalin.

[1:42] I'm here to say, my name's Elliot Kalin.

[1:43] I'm here to say 1981 to question mark.

[1:46] Cause they don't know when I died.

[1:48] Oh, you pre-bought it like Nicholas Cage and his pyramid tomb.

[1:52] Yeah.

[1:52] It's just cheaper that way.

[1:53] And then, you know, eventually you hope to raise the money to

[1:55] carve the other year on there.

[1:57] I mean, aren't most, aren't most like pyramid tombs pre-bought though?

[2:01] Like don't the, weren't the Pharaohs like, yeah, start building that shit.

[2:04] I know I'm not dead yet, but I'm going to die at some point.

[2:06] They didn't wait around.

[2:07] They weren't like, yeah, by the time the pyramid was done, it was like,

[2:11] ugh, bury this rotting pile.

[2:14] No, it was the head chef that just died.

[2:16] We got to get this pyramid done yesterday.

[2:18] Like chop, chop.

[2:18] Let's do it.

[2:20] Uh, uh, this is a movie podcast.

[2:23] This is the podcast where we talk about the scheduling and construction of

[2:26] pyramids.

[2:30] So here's, here's a flop, that flop house tip.

[2:33] Number one, you're going to want to pre-buy.

[2:35] You don't just want to wait till the last minute, your deathbed, to start

[2:39] shopping for those pyramids.

[2:40] Cause you're talking about design, structural architecture, price.

[2:45] Don't try to do it yourself at home.

[2:46] Every, people have tried so many times.

[2:48] You've seen on that, that whole Reddit that's, that's about pyramid fails.

[2:51] People tried to build their own Egyptian tomb and it just doesn't work.

[2:54] Yeah.

[2:55] Don't need to spray for the undercoating.

[2:57] Well, unfortunately Dan, they put that in the factory.

[3:00] Oh, and when you're lying on your deathbed, do you want to spend your time

[3:02] focusing on stuff like what like cool last words you're going to have, who

[3:06] you're going to snub in your last words, all that stuff?

[3:10] No, this is a podcast about bad movies, uh, where we watch a bad

[3:15] movie and then we talk about it.

[3:17] And in this case, we watched a movie called, let's see if I can remember

[3:21] again, breaking news in Yuba County.

[3:25] Yeah.

[3:25] Here's a peek behind the curtain.

[3:27] Uh, Dan got the title wrong when we first started recording the episode.

[3:31] So that's why Dan's a little trepidatious about it now, but I

[3:33] think he's going to do just fine.

[3:35] Dan, how could I mess up a catchy title?

[3:39] Like breaking news in Yuba County?

[3:42] How would I ever get in?

[3:43] What I love about it is it tells you everything you need to know about the movie.

[3:46] Yeah.

[3:47] LA, you're our, uh, you're our geography nut on the podcast.

[3:51] Is Yuba County a real place or is it a made up place?

[3:55] It is a real place in California.

[3:57] Now the movie seems to take place in, in Kentucky possibly.

[4:02] So I'm not sure exactly.

[4:03] So I don't know if the Yuba County of the film is a real place, but there

[4:06] is a real place called Yuba County.

[4:08] Okay.

[4:08] Well, at least Wikipedia says it's taking place in Kentucky.

[4:10] I don't actually remember anything in the movie that made that clear at all.

[4:15] Uh, but there is a real Yuba County.

[4:17] Now people may recognize this type of title as a kind of a things to do in

[4:20] Denver when you're dead type of thing, where it's like kind of like a deliberately

[4:23] kind of longish puckish title that kind of winks at the audience.

[4:27] Like, Oh, what, what kind of news is breaking in Yuba County?

[4:31] And the movie is in a lot of ways, kind of a throwback to that era of

[4:34] nineties, uh, violent comedies that had overlong titles, like eight heads in it.

[4:41] This is your eight heads in a duffel bag for 21st century.

[4:43] Finally, my kids have their eight heads in a duffel bag.

[4:46] Yep.

[4:46] It's that it's also kind of like a, um, an attempt, a bad attempt at like a

[4:52] Coen brothers movie, like a Fargo or a burn after reading it also, you know,

[4:57] it evokes like, like Elmore Leonard or Carl Hyasson novels to some degree,

[5:02] but, but, but, but better, but, but worse.

[5:05] You said better put it on the better than Elmore Leonard and

[5:08] Carl Hyasson raves Dan McCoy.

[5:10] Little, little bit of Jackie Brown in there.

[5:12] Yeah.

[5:13] That sort of thing.

[5:14] It feels a little bit like a, uh, a filmed version of a celebrity Twitch

[5:18] stream of the game fiasco, which I don't know if you'll put it on the poster.

[5:25] Uh huh.

[5:26] Yep.

[5:26] Slap it on there.

[5:27] Uh, make sure to put my picture on there too, though.

[5:29] If you're going to use my words, yeah.

[5:32] And your signature.

[5:33] Yeah.

[5:33] And then you're going to want to slap it, bonk it, twist it,

[5:35] bump it and, uh, and throw it.

[5:37] Yeah.

[5:38] Yeah.

[5:38] You got to do all that.

[5:39] If you don't do all that, then you won't get the, you won't get my quote.

[5:42] So, uh, yeah, that's the rule.

[5:48] Okay.

[5:48] Uh, so let's, let's just jump into this thing.

[5:51] Uh, okay.

[5:52] Of course, like a lot of movies here at the flop house, it opens with what seems

[5:55] to be never ending production logos.

[5:58] As soon as one ends, another begins to the point where at some point you're

[6:02] like, is the movie started is, did I miss something?

[6:06] I don't know what's going on.

[6:07] And now there's one particularly interesting production logo on here,

[6:10] though, among the other ones, like nine stories on there with this, which

[6:13] is Jake Gyllenhaal's company.

[6:15] Uh, but one of the production logos is the blacklist and that's right.

[6:18] This movie was produced in part by the blacklist, the organization that.

[6:23] Collects the best unmade scripts in Hollywood and makes the worst and

[6:28] makes the worst movies, because here's how many other blacklist movies

[6:31] we've done in this podcast, red riding hood, seven pounds, ATM abduction,

[6:36] all about Steve, that awkward moment, gangster squad, AKA that hat headed

[6:41] head, uh, hand turners, uh, Abraham Lincoln, vampire hunter, I believe.

[6:45] Number 23, possibly there's a, there's a lot of, some good movies are made

[6:49] off of blacklist scripts, but a lot are not.

[6:51] And this one was actually produced by those.

[6:54] By that organization, which is surprising.

[6:55] Yeah.

[6:56] What's surprising that they decided to start getting in on the

[6:59] content creation game themselves.

[7:00] I think it's surprising that they started to get in and that this was

[7:02] the script they decided to go with.

[7:05] And, you know, movies change as they're made, but maybe, maybe the folks behind

[7:08] the blacklist are like, you know what, this script is written so well, you know,

[7:12] it'd be impossible to mess up.

[7:13] I do think that there's something about blacklist movies where it's like.

[7:17] The reason they got put on this list is their flashy scripts, which does not

[7:22] necessarily translate to like a good script.

[7:25] Like, I feel like maybe the reason they are often unproduced is the people in

[7:29] charge of making movies look at them and be like, oh, well, this reads well on the

[7:32] page, but it wouldn't work as a movie.

[7:35] And then like it gets attention, you know, once it gets on that, this is my theory.

[7:39] What makes it, what makes a good script, Dan?

[7:41] Is it font?

[7:43] Well, it should probably be a courier new.

[7:47] I think that's the standard, not the old current courier.

[7:50] Get some new courier in there.

[7:51] I will say also, it is such a ballsy slap in the face to screenwriters to name the

[7:57] list you want your script on a name to name it after the screenwriters who were

[8:01] thrown in jail or had their careers taken from them because they would not call out

[8:05] communists in front of Congress.

[8:07] So it's a real, uh, or we're accused of condomism.

[8:09] Is that what that fucking James Spader shows all about?

[8:12] That's exactly what it's James Spader.

[8:13] It's weird to make a show where James Spader is the hero and he's locking

[8:17] screenwriters in jail for being communist.

[8:19] And at the end of everybody, at the end of every episode, he throws them in jail

[8:22] and he goes, take that commie you're on the blacklist.

[8:25] And then the title comes up blacklist.

[8:27] So it just balls.

[8:28] I guess that's what must be why it's so popular.

[8:30] Unless, unless the people at the American blacklist council were like.

[8:34] People that look, the, the HUAC hearings and everything, it gave blacklists a bad

[8:38] name, a black mark, if you will.

[8:40] Let's change the way people think about blacklists by making it

[8:43] something that you want to be on.

[8:45] So we'll make the screenwriting thing.

[8:46] We'll make it a James Spader show.

[8:48] Uh, this there's no telling.

[8:51] Look, you've seen James Spader, but have you seen him in a hat?

[8:55] Yeah.

[8:56] I mean, he was known for having that beautiful haircut and now they're like,

[8:59] let's change, let's change it up.

[9:00] Let's give him a hat.

[9:01] It's like, when does it work?

[9:02] And it's like, hell yeah, it works.

[9:04] Yeah.

[9:04] It's like, get it.

[9:05] Okay.

[9:05] And, um, when, uh, Quigley down under shaved his mustache and everyone

[9:08] was like, what are you doing?

[9:10] But they learned to love exactly.

[9:11] Yeah.

[9:12] Finally, some justice for Quigley down under.

[9:14] Okay.

[9:14] So, uh, we're introduced to the hero of this movie, uh, Sue played by Alison Janney.

[9:19] She's at a grocery store and she's listening to affirmation tapes and buying

[9:23] herself a birthday cake, which of course the, uh, the cake makers get her name

[9:29] wrong instead of Sue, they write suck.

[9:31] Uh, and, uh, seem very, uh, unwilling to change it, which is like, that's crazy.

[9:37] That's super easy, which of course she shows us later.

[9:39] It's very easy.

[9:40] Yeah.

[9:40] It would take so little effort on their part to, to get it right.

[9:43] You know?

[9:43] Yeah.

[9:44] She's just like, uh, you know, she's like a buttoned up like

[9:47] suburban housewife type, right?

[9:49] In fact, her name is Sue Buttons.

[9:51] Yeah.

[9:52] Sue Buttons.

[9:52] Thank you.

[9:53] And, uh, we're introduced to her husband played by Matthew Modine, her husband,

[9:56] Carl, who is having some phone sex.

[10:00] his mistress which we all know the first rules on your wife's birthday you don't

[10:04] spend time with the mistress right then uh...

[10:07] i mean i can't tell you doesn't mean that you have to do anything that's

[10:11] correct he may spend time with his mistress on his wife's birthday we

[10:14] don't know it's not a lot of

[10:15] yet you don't want to foreclose all your options i guess they have to be

[10:18] flexible everyone knows birthdays for the wife saturdays for the goomar that's

[10:22] how it works come on guys and we all know that

[10:25] now uh... a tv in the background informs us that there is a missing girl emma

[10:30] rose and uh... she seems to be the focus of all of the entertainment news

[10:35] uh... specifically one entertainment talk show host uh... gloria michaels

[10:40] played by juliet lewis uh... who is uh... interviewing the parents of this

[10:44] missing girl and you're like how's this gonna tie in uh... don't worry it will

[10:48] uh... sue works at a call center

[10:51] a call center where they are mean to her and forget her birthday

[10:56] and then guess what we got even more characters here because this movie is

[10:59] filled with actors not well i know every movie's filled with actors but these are

[11:03] ones whose names you recognize well not secret honor that's just got one actor in it

[11:08] okay thank you ellie so not all movies are filled with actors some are just philip baker

[11:13] hall so you know

[11:14] yeah no that was great that's a really good point

[11:17] uh... so we we go to uh... a store

[11:21] uh... where we meet pete played by jimmy simpson who is the brother of carl which

[11:27] is strange because they look almost nothing alike uh... but they're probably

[11:31] very similar in age right elliot there's a roughly fifteen-year difference

[11:35] between the two of them

[11:36] between jimmy simpson and methodo dane

[11:37] he's he's like the primary mcpoil on uh...

[11:41] on always sunny right

[11:42] yeah and he was on uh... the first season of uh... which of uh... westworld

[11:47] yeah i'm wrong there's this fifteen year difference that was his star turn

[11:50] yeah that was his breakout he was he was now he's a leading man

[11:53] jimmy simpson yeah jimmy simpson plays pete and he works for

[11:57] rita

[11:58] who is played by wanda sykes who i gotta tell ya

[12:01] made me laugh a bunch of times in this movie she is the funniest person in the movie

[12:05] she's wearing this very funny wig and jorts the whole time and it's great

[12:09] and she's always pulling out a pistol and she seems very up for it she like

[12:13] yes her character yes ands everything in the movie it's great

[12:16] uh... okay so we find out that pete is a ex-con who's trying to reform

[12:21] but it becomes kinda hard because

[12:22] some of his former criminal contacts

[12:25] played by aquafina and clifton collins junior

[12:29] show up and try and hustle him down shake him down for some money or get him

[12:33] to

[12:34] we find out that he's mixed up in a

[12:36] money laundering scheme with his brother carl once again matthew modine

[12:40] who works at a bank

[12:42] okay i think i think this is all makes sense yeah this is you know crackerjack

[12:45] clockwork plotting uh... orange plotting now i wanted to mention this is how

[12:50] stuff with movie stars is that

[12:53] that's ellen barkin right as wanda sykes oh yeah ellen barkin is in it too

[12:58] very small part that does not need an ellen barkin to pull it off but ellen

[13:01] barkin is doing it like this this this

[13:03] this thing has yeah when you think about how hard it is to get certain movies

[13:06] attached to

[13:07] celebrities

[13:08] uh... this way it's almost like

[13:09] they just walked by a celebrity and the celebrity was pulled towards it like a

[13:12] metal filing towards a magnet couldn't resist the gravitational pull of breaking

[13:16] news in yuba county

[13:19] uh... with a title like that i gotta know what it's about what's the breaking news

[13:23] look i'm only halfway through the title i saw breaking news in and i'm telling

[13:26] you i'm in i'll finish the title later and i'll finish the script maybe never

[13:30] i'm in the movie take it okay miss barkin that sounds wonderful yeah great

[13:35] uh... so

[13:36] uh... aquafina and clifton collins jr. are like shaking down jimmy simpson at

[13:40] his place of work and uh... we're introduced to the first of many very

[13:44] lazy stunts

[13:45] feels like they did not hire any kind of stunt coordinator or uh... choreographer

[13:50] because

[13:51] like they're just like yeah just fucking do whatever you like do what you think's

[13:54] right

[13:54] because it always feels it feels very strange

[13:58] wanda sykes has some funny bits with her gun

[14:01] wanda sykes really wants to be a criminal right she really wants to live a

[14:04] criminal that's her deal yeah yeah

[14:06] it's and it's pretty funny she's the one who has the strongest she's great

[14:10] yeah it seems like that is why she has hired jimmy simpson almost like she

[14:14] knows he's an ex-con and she's like if i got this guy around sooner or later he's gonna involve me

[14:19] that's pretty great yeah that's a good read

[14:23] so we then go to the bank

[14:25] where uh... aquafina and clifton collins jr. are trying to meet up with

[14:30] uh... carl

[14:31] uh... sorry i'm gonna keep accidentally calling them by their names or their

[14:34] actor names the whole time i'm sorry for trying to follow this

[14:37] they bump into another guy who works at the bank who is played by the guy who

[14:40] played piz from veronica mars and played bash on glo

[14:45] on glo yeah like you know that's uh... i i feel like i like him more on glo than

[14:50] i mean obviously everyone hates him on veronica mars but whatever

[14:54] so carl is reluctant uh... he is reluctant but he is still washing the

[14:58] criminals money which is what three million dollars

[15:01] it's literally a bag with three million dollars in cash that's very neatly

[15:05] stacked and they're like launder this by tomorrow and i don't know how money

[15:08] laundering works but it feels like it takes it's not like you put it in a machine

[15:11] and it comes out as different money like you gotta do it has to go through

[15:15] different things to be laundered right

[15:16] yeah like retrieving an ipad

[15:19] yeah you just gotta watch ozark dude it

[15:21] tells you how to do it you throw some golf balls in a dryer and throw the bill

[15:25] it's easy

[15:26] uh... wait i'm intrigued how do the golf balls in the dryer help

[15:31] well cause it like fucks up the bills a little bit makes them all crumbly

[15:35] and then you get to pretend you can crawl into the dryer and be like i'm on the money

[15:38] tunnel on a game show and you're just grabbing at all the bills

[15:41] ow golf ball ow ow

[15:44] it's kinda like how to live and die in l.a. to make the counterfeit bills look

[15:48] real they throw a bunch of poker chips in the uh... dryer okay don't worry about it

[15:52] uh... so meanwhile sue very dejected because everyone forgot her birthday

[15:56] decides

[15:57] i'm gonna make a reservation at the fanciest restaurant in town

[16:00] and i'm gonna tell my husband he has to take me out because it's my fucking

[16:03] birthday so she goes to his work only to see him leave with some flowers and she's

[16:07] like ooh who are these flowers for i'm gonna follow him

[16:10] so she follows him to a local motel and she interrupts him of course with uh...

[16:15] she is

[16:16] uh... hoping to be surprised by the flowers that he's planning some surprise

[16:19] for but instead

[16:20] catches him with his mistress

[16:22] and he immediately has a heart attack and dies

[16:24] uh... his mistress is played by bridget everett who is very game uh... and she

[16:30] kicks uh... the mistress out and then spends the day sitting in a hotel room

[16:34] watching t.v.

[16:36] with a rotting corpse yeah i mean like

[16:40] this is an unpleasant

[16:42] comedic scene because it does appear to be like the movie wants to make a joke

[16:47] of the fact that his mistress like

[16:49] is a a larger woman and has her like giant

[16:53] boob out in

[16:54] in what at least half of it

[16:56] it out of her bra or one of her breasts out of her bra

[17:00] half of her set of breasts is bare

[17:03] yeah they didn't yeah exactly

[17:05] the pair one of them

[17:07] and i just think it's an unpleasant

[17:10] scene on behalf of the movie because it really does i feel like

[17:14] i don't know it just wants to make a joke of this woman in this scene

[17:17] oh no and later when that character shows up again another character goes

[17:22] like she is fine

[17:24] and

[17:25] the the movie seems to want you to think it's hilarious yeah that that uh...

[17:28] that uh... a large woman would be

[17:31] sexually desirable to somebody it's it's a gross yeah it's gross

[17:34] i mean i think she's pretty great uh... okay she does fine with the role it's not a

[17:38] problem the problem is she's great yeah

[17:41] so

[17:42] uh... the weirdest thing for me in this scene is that uh... while she we while we

[17:47] see allison chaney like sneaking around the outside of the hotel

[17:50] we see a bunch of people like

[17:52] grilling out in the little park next to the motel and uh... it's they expressly

[17:57] say it's like a tuesday afternoon like who's grilling out on a tuesday

[18:01] and like next to a parking lot that like she this this parking lot it's this this

[18:05] field next to it not even the field the like grass next to this hotel

[18:09] it's like nobody seems to notice her burying a body there and it seems like

[18:13] it is a very heavily populated area and she doesn't even go to the hotel

[18:18] the whole the whole later on in the movie

[18:20] there's more there's another scene at this motel that we'll get to and i was like

[18:23] how is nobody

[18:25] seeing this intervening like calling the police i don't understand this is well

[18:29] lit

[18:29] like very visible yep

[18:31] a lot of sight lines

[18:32] i would like to take this moment to talk a little bit about allison chaney's

[18:35] character because yeah please sue buttons

[18:37] the titular breaking news sue buttons is our lead

[18:40] and

[18:41] allison chaney

[18:43] you know wonderful actor academy award winner

[18:45] i think does

[18:47] uh... you know what you can with this part like she

[18:50] is actually in a movie that i think is not very good largely

[18:54] is pitched

[18:55] pretty well but this

[18:58] ripped doesn't make a whole lot of i don't know

[19:00] the her whole deal is like look

[19:04] i understand that

[19:06] birthday being missed is

[19:08] meant to be a

[19:10] uh... like shorthand movie shorthand

[19:13] representative of

[19:16] you know the life of quite desperation that she's

[19:19] leading well said and i your phrase

[19:22] uh... that's very original to me very very well said

[19:26] tm

[19:27] but in the context of a movie like and

[19:30] i do think that you're supposed to have some sort of sympathy for her at the

[19:34] beginning of the movie

[19:35] and then watches she sort of grows into

[19:38] a fame hungry monster even though you're supposed to scoff a little bit about her

[19:43] affirmations like this i'd like the fact that she's like walking through

[19:46] life like trying to like

[19:48] you know poppers off up and like this idea of like we are all special we all

[19:52] deserve like

[19:53] yeah i think the movies like

[19:55] trying to pitch it down the middle where like we use sympathy for her but also

[19:58] like

[20:00] You're satirizing this mindset of personal like growth and how it can lead to selfishness and if misapplied but I don't know like I don't start the movie with any sort of sympathy well a little bit a little bit I don't want to know but I think you're right that the tone is off because when the movie starts you are meant to.

[20:23] Think she's pathetic and it's supposed to be funny that she's pathetic like yeah stepped on by life no one pays attention to her she does these affirmations but clearly she is not in control of her life and everyone just shits all over and it's supposed to be like.

[20:37] Funny but you're also supposed to feel bad but then you're supposed to want her to get what she thinks she deserves but then you're supposed to lose sympathy with her at a certain point and it's it's does it it's a very difficult total thing it doesn't pull off you know.

[20:50] Well like the moment her husband dies she immediately has that like click where she's like okay I don't feel bad about this dead guy I'm gonna take what's mine it seems time to show yeah exactly and I feel like the they like speed up to that point a little too fast for me like again there's a scene where she's sitting watching TV with a dead body next to her it's a little bit weird and it's yeah as she's sitting there she is watching TV and she watches Julia Lewis and she.

[21:20] Gets the idea that if she buries her husband and pretends that he's missing she might get all the attention that she hasn't been getting so she does just that she buries them in the field immediately next to the next to the hotel or motel it's like any of the she also eat from the entrance of the motel like it's crazy yes with with the flowers that he bought his mistress and the bag of dirty money that she is not open she does not know it's filled with three million dollars yeah she goes to report that her husband is missing to.

[21:50] Detective Regina Hall which is always great to see she's awesome who does I guess the best she can with this role who is in it who doesn't really pay too much mind and then she tases a excitable frat boy type character who climbs onto the desk in the police station very funny stuff really I was so confused by because they're like we got some drunk college students come in and here they go and they just were like regular white

[22:20] college bros like there was nothing like exaggerated about them but they're like it was I couldn't understand I was like I don't I don't really think I get the joke here like I don't understand why this was the thing that also needed them to be distracted from some buttons it seems so it seems so half-assed the whole thing well in general this movie appears to feel it is at least 25% more outrageous than it is except for the moments that are actually outrageous which are like strong violence to come

[22:50] break the tone of the movie but we'll get there and I think we should mention because it's it's something I don't forget is that the music in this movie is working over time like it's like this is what a clown hears in hell like it being piped into the into the movie just this is the most the most extreme intense like boop boop boop boop boing and it's the movies is try the music is trying very hard to to make you think it's funny you know it's just

[23:19] it's it's yeah there was a point where I was like it's an opportunity for a slide whistle there's a point where I was like am I gonna have to mute this and watch it with just the captions because I can't take any more of this music you know I mean that's like I mean if you think of Coen Brothers movies that are like trying to like like pitch to a similar level but better like you know you they've got like these great dramatic Carter Burwell scores even as funny things are happening where this one is just like let's get the person who does the cart Tom and Jerry cartoons music

[23:49] yeah well and it's it's the it's the thing of like if you want something to be funny then you kind of have to do it as as real as you can in certain things like you want you want the audience to believe this funny situation is happening so when the music is like boom boom boom boy you're like okay well I know this is this is not this is not not even trying to convince me that I'm watching a thing that we're watching real people later on Sue has a breakdown while eating her birthday cake and she breaks all of her chachkis and caused a real big mess and

[24:19] breaks her TV and all that shit but unfortunately in the midst of all this wreckage her sister Mila Kunis shows up Nancy who's a local newscaster and Sue lies about Carl being abducted and they decide to break some fucking news now this is the now we went we mentioned it's almost like the casting directors were like Jimmy Simpson is 16 years younger than Matthew Modine and their brothers why don't we try to break that record and Allison Janney is 23 years older than

[24:49] Mila Kunis and they they're supposed to be half sisters and it is I feel like it is hard for the movie to it never comments on that age difference other than saying they're half sisters but it made me want to know more about the backstory of these of these people there's such a huge age gap I mean are they Anthony Quinn's kids I know that he had a son who was like 52 but they're probably it adds a lot to the movie and it took me out of the movie a little bit because she Mila Kunis seemed very upset that the the

[25:19] home was so messy but I know that Mila Kunis doesn't wash her children so I don't know what the big deal is there is a there is a news story where Mila Kunis and Ashton Kutcher were like we don't bathe our kids that often yeah like it's a it's a waste also there are two documentaries about how she's a bad mom so really that's true yeah two

[25:39] documentaries yeah it wasn't like fire fest where there were two competing these were two what fiction like it's right like those two documentaries about how Billy Bob Thornton is a bad Santa sure sure there's a real industry and in slandering big

[26:01] Hollywood stars yeah okay so Sue has fabricated this story but detective Regina Hall she's not buying it okay she doesn't like the idea that instead of you know really going to the police even though she did that you know she's going straight to the press one of the weird thing is there's a when the detectives come to her home they pull out a photo of Sue and Carl like one of their like you know marriage photos and Matthew Modine is giving a

[26:31] thumbs up and I found it very funny like why would you frame that photo it's really silly okay so the crooks that's shorthand for aquafina and Clifton Collins jr. calling them the crooks like we're like we're writing for like an old-timey newspaper so the crooks go looking for the money at the bank obviously Carl is not there so they kill Piz instead and leave no reason it's

[27:00] supposed to be like your loose cannon criminal type she like she's uncontrollable and like Aquafina's voice is I think the funniest for her voice just saying just by anything makes me laugh but I was like I don't get why it was a moment that took me out of it even more I was like I don't know why you just did that I don't know why you just shot that man in the head you know yeah I mean like I think I love Aquafina I think she's extremely like charismatic as a performer but I think

[27:30] this is I think this is miscasting to have her play this I guess you know yeah supposed to be like dangerously loose cannon criminal because she doesn't give like she gives off you know like goofy Aquafina vibes but she doesn't give off like also possibly like threatening going to kill you but I think the story seems so the thing about Aquafina is her her effect is like I'm over everything like I'm over this like so it's hard to imagine her as someone as a Joe Pesci type

[28:00] who is just like a hair trigger away from from a live wire yeah exactly she's she's very much she's too cool for that Aquafina you're too cool for this it is cool it's kind of funny to pair her because her like yeah she's got this kind of like kind of like goofy stonery vibe almost yeah and to pair her with Clifton Collins Jr. who is who's like okay I'm gonna play it even less effective yeah like I mean I even give less of a shit than this I'm barely in this movie I mean I have to say I kind of liked his haircut is great though

[28:30] his look I thought was perfect for it and I kind of liked his performance because it was like he was like I'm like if Anton Chigurh had a younger brother who had just come out of a coma like I'm so like I'm Javier Bardem from No Country for Old Men but I'm like even more of a blank and there's and you get a I was waiting for like some at first I thought they were boyfriend and girlfriend and then I thought oh she was just he was just hired by her dad to watch her but he's doing a really bad job and he was providing so little that I found myself projecting so much onto his character

[29:00] and I'm like that's film acting out of it like that's yeah that's that's Robert Mitchum right there you know so okay so uh let's see uh Sue speaks with Gloria she goes to the studio to speak with Gloria Michaels uh she tries to sell her story but ends up having to double down on her lie

[29:19] and manages to tie Carl's disappearance to the disappearance of Emma Rose uh-oh what a web we weave um Jimmy Simpson uh he goes to the crooks and he because he assumes they have kidnapped his brother and they convince him that he needs to give them twenty thousand dollars to pay uh to pay them off and they'll give him back his brother which we obviously know will not happen

[29:42] so Wanda Sykes is like we gotta rob a mall jewelry store which they do and she seems very into it and I appreciate her enthusiasm and the way they do it they back a truck through it through the through the the entrance of the mall and then run in and smash everything and then run out and he and she's like I love this I love

[30:00] He's like be quiet. We're gonna get caught and I'm like, I'm sorry

[30:02] Her voice is not making any more of a sensation then like the fact that you rammed a truck through the entrance

[30:10] There's alarms going off and he's like be quiet be quiet like I don't know what he thought he was robbing

[30:14] I don't know. Yeah, maybe was he yelling at her was he yelling at the alarm?

[30:19] Hey quiet and he's yeah

[30:21] Then he'd started that's right

[30:22] Cuz then he took a towel and was waving it at the burglar alarm to try to try to turn it off and I'm like that

[30:26] Works for smoke alarms. It doesn't work for burglar alarms

[30:29] so

[30:32] Mila Kunis convinces her sister to do a joint interview with the parents of the missing girl Emma Rose

[30:40] Somewhere in there Mina shows up and try that's aquafina shows up and tries to shake down sue for the money

[30:46] But sues like I think she calls her or something. I don't remember but she doesn't have the money

[30:51] Carl's mistress shows up in the right before the interview taping is supposed to happen

[30:57] And they get in an argument on the front lawn and then sues like, okay, I know how to deal with this one

[31:02] So she tells the crooks that the mistress knows where the money is which?

[31:07] As we will find out leads to her death, which is pretty fucked. Yeah

[31:12] Crooks have left their business card with with Allison Janney in case she gets a tip or something like that

[31:16] Yeah, it was very funny to me. There's like oh, so it's like like the cops on the wire

[31:20] They're always leaving their business cards around

[31:23] The crooks are like it doesn't say like Mina criminal and then her number like call me it's confusing

[31:30] This is like, you know, I it might be getting a little ahead of ourselves

[31:35] But this seems like a weird play to me on behalf of Allison Janney because like the mistress is not a play

[31:41] Dan, it's a movie. I

[31:43] Thank you. Thanks for watching a lot of succession. He knows that's what they say

[31:47] But the the mistress shows up being like I know

[31:51] What really happened like and I don't care anymore at this point, you know, like if you expose that I had this

[31:59] Affair like I don't even like my husband whatever whatever find out later

[32:02] She's very sex positive based on the contents of her of her dresser

[32:06] Yeah, but but she's you know, she's a loose end that needs to get tied off but like sending them to

[32:13] like

[32:14] she knows that

[32:17] Sue knows

[32:19] Where the husband is so sending her to the bad guys?

[32:23] Like I don't understand why when she gets kidnapped by the bad guys later

[32:27] She doesn't immediately just send her back to them back to sue

[32:31] I mean eventually that is what happens, but it seems like yeah first thing is like, oh you're looking for this guy

[32:37] Who's missing, you know who?

[32:39] last saw him

[32:42] His husband her her wife his wife, why can't I talk I don't know why she doesn't say

[32:47] I was his mistress and she and he died having sex with me and now and Sue is that and I tried to blackmail Sue and

[32:53] That's why she called you like instead. She's just like I don't know what to do. I'll tell you what

[32:58] But also, yeah, but the more important thing is that Sue has now crossed the line from

[33:04] Let's call it victimless criminality

[33:07] We're all she's doing is playing a hilarious prank on America that her husband got kidnapped

[33:11] into active victim full criminality and that she has delivered this living woman into the hands of

[33:17] Criminals that that she hopes will kill this living woman and turn her into what's known as a dead woman

[33:22] Yeah, who again you got a you blame you blame Matthew Modine you blame your husband. You don't blame his mistress. Come on

[33:29] so

[33:30] Meanwhile, she is very she is very abrasive as a mistress, I guess. Yeah

[33:35] So the cops are closing in

[33:39] Regina Regina Hall tries like a fucking gotcha with Sue where she's like

[33:44] What about when did you have time to eat the birthday cake and it's like a fucking person who's super stressed out because their husband's

[33:50] Missing would eat a fucking birthday cake in front of them

[33:53] You don't have to justify that shit like no fucking jury would

[33:57] It's pretty weak evidence. She's like she has to be involved. She ate a birthday cake and she canceled her dinner reservations

[34:04] Why would she do these things?

[34:05] Her training officer was encyclopedia Brown

[34:10] Very flimsy

[34:12] A mule is sterile and cannot have children. Take her away boys

[34:18] So Sue blow of course blows the interview so she has to take it one step further so she makes a ransom note

[34:25] and

[34:26] You know by cutting out little things and sends it

[34:30] Just all little things

[34:34] A

[34:37] Poster of the little things the HBO

[34:42] Yep, that's that's true. Let's see. Okay

[34:47] So Pete gives the jewelry to the crooks

[34:51] Who have a who have at this point already abducted the mistress?

[34:56] and

[34:57] then Pete and Rita

[35:00] abduct

[35:01] Aquafina and try to ransom her

[35:05] Man, there's so much

[35:08] the

[35:09] Detective Hall, it's detective Harris Regina Hall. They think this is around when she arrests sue right? Yeah

[35:16] records it on her phone and

[35:19] And suddenly there's there's like all the news cameras show up at that police station. It turns it even more of a kerfuffle

[35:26] publicity circus, yeah

[35:28] Meanwhile Pete's wife finds one of the rings that he had

[35:32] that he had stolen and

[35:35] Lot calls him and lies about going into labor with twins

[35:40] So that he rushes home and she confronts him about the crime

[35:43] About him going back to a life of crime of stealing shit. He's like I had to do it

[35:48] They got my my brother, but they have it out when she says are you about your brother or about me?

[35:54] Which is kind of a strange response when you find out someone's brother has been kidnapped

[35:58] They can love you

[35:58] Yes

[35:59] And be devoted to their family and also not want their brother to be held by hostage takers

[36:03] You would have it you would make a really great like marriage. Let me let me let me judge John Hodgman this for a moment

[36:10] Wow, okay. Okay

[36:12] Janelle I know that you're worried that PD is falling into his old habits and that's fair

[36:18] That's a very fair way to think you care, but he said he wasn't gonna commit any more crimes

[36:22] You said he wasn't gonna make any more crimes. He broke that promise and you know what?

[36:26] I understand why you're feeling betrayed by that. But on the other hand, let's look at it from PD's point of view

[36:31] This is an out-of-the-ordinary situation

[36:34] It's not every day that his brother is a older brother is much older brother

[36:39] Kind of more of a father figure to him because he could have been a teen dad and had him

[36:43] That it's it's out of the ordinary that that's gonna happen every day

[36:46] So I think what we have to do is I'll go to my chambers and we'll take a quick break

[36:51] And then we'll be right back, you know, Squarespace is the all-in-one platform that allows you to make websites

[36:56] No, don't give it away. Sorry. Sorry. Yeah. Sorry. I just was I was channeling John Hodgman too much. Uh,

[37:01] so

[37:04] Already about how they

[37:06] that some of the let's talk about some of the violence that's happened up to this point because they kidnap aquafina and they managed to

[37:11] Shoot off part of her ear by accident and they do shoot off part of her ear and as revenge meanwhile

[37:16] They're they're threatening to cut off the mistress's fingers. Yes

[37:21] Which they don't do but instead. Thank you. They they instead the crime boss

[37:28] Puts her head on the bowling ball drill and then drills a hole in her head. Yeah, and it's a killer forever

[37:35] This this boss. This is Kong Sim who this is his second flophouse appearance. He was also in hillbilly elegy. So

[37:41] Congratulations, you're back. Yeah

[37:44] Yeah, he put him back. Uh

[37:46] You liking it is it comfortable? Is it great? He's giving us a big first time

[37:50] Well, he's sitting in he's sitting in a beanbag. So it's obviously comfortable. Yeah, not

[37:55] It's just kind of like now, you know, it's like being back in the womb if your mom's room was on was behind you

[38:00] It does conform to you though. So that's kind of nice. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I mean it's if you're gonna be sitting all day

[38:06] Clutching a n64 controller that is getting it increasingly sweaty as you play through bond levels

[38:12] You got to be sitting in a beanbag. Did you guys see the recent expose about how Timothy Chalamet?

[38:16] He used to have a he used to have a YouTube channel where it showed hand-painted custom controllers

[38:23] Fucking quiz how to rock right there

[38:24] I saw I'd never seen an interview with him and I saw a video of the interview where he was like, yeah

[38:28] They found my old YouTube channel and I was like the mystique around this guy has disappeared for me instantly

[38:33] Like he's like I'd only seen his performances and I was like, this is a man of rare

[38:36] It's a boy of rare delicacy and refinement and then he's like, yeah, dude. I used to paint these controllers and I'm like

[38:43] Forget it. Never mind

[38:47] I

[38:49] Wanted to I wanted to believe him as kind of like a

[38:52] kind of an almost like Oscar Wilde Ian like to to

[38:55] Too delicate for this world type of Elfman or kind of not like Danny Elfman who is too delicate for this world

[39:01] that's why he lives inside of a

[39:03] dimensional plane that

[39:05] Vibrates constantly so that he isn't part of this dimension or part of any other dimension and he just every now and then sends out

[39:10] Songs, but I'm more of like a more of like a like a pixie type creature, you know

[39:15] That's what I wanted him to be, but he's just a regular

[39:18] Yeah, he's just a regular guy. Yeah, I saw somebody describing as being just like a really wealthy mouse

[39:24] That's what I want. Yeah. Yeah, so on the subject of violence

[39:30] Yep, Clifton Collins jr. Shows up to rescue his partner in crime

[39:36] Aquafina and he blasts Rita with a shotgun and then he shoots Ellen Barkin, but in the process

[39:43] Aquafina gets a hatchet to the chest

[39:46] R.i.p

[39:47] Okay, then Clifton Collins jr. Burns down the store with their corpses inside

[39:53] I get a level of violence that I don't think this movie can support and it's it's not with this show

[39:59] It's like the movie

[40:00] He is, the movie is like, silly, silly, silly,

[40:04] violence, violence, violence, violence.

[40:06] Like, it's suddenly like the movie was like,

[40:08] wow, it's later than I realized.

[40:10] I better start killing off characters one by one.

[40:13] And I have to say, there's a moment where,

[40:15] so Rita has been shot and killed,

[40:17] and Ellen Barkin is like, no, you killed Rita,

[40:19] and gets killed, or gets shot,

[40:22] and she falls next to Rita and dying.

[40:25] She's like gripping Wanda Sykes' dead hand and going,

[40:28] Rita, Rita, no, Rita.

[40:30] And it was like, I do not like this.

[40:32] This is not funny, this is far too real.

[40:34] And in that moment, it was like,

[40:35] I feel so bad for these characters.

[40:37] They did not deserve this.

[40:38] Like, it was so, it was just too, it was too much.

[40:41] That was one of many times where,

[40:43] but maybe that was the most of the moments in the movie

[40:44] where I was like, no movie, I can't go back to laughing

[40:47] after I've seen the genuine pain

[40:49] that this woman is experiencing.

[40:50] Like, ugh, horrible.

[40:53] As my son would say, whenever I do any of my voices,

[40:55] he doesn't like, horrible, horrible.

[40:58] So.

[41:01] Pete rushes back to the store to try and warn Rita,

[41:07] only to find that the store has been arsoned.

[41:10] So he tries to rush home,

[41:12] but meanwhile, Clifton Collins Jr. is in his home

[41:15] stalking his pregnant wife with a pistol,

[41:20] but she gets the drop on him and stabs him a whole bunch

[41:22] and gets blood all over her face.

[41:25] So another character's dead.

[41:27] But not the pregnant lady.

[41:30] That was, my worry was that they were going to go,

[41:33] it was that the movie was going to be like,

[41:34] you don't think we're going to go this far, but we are.

[41:36] And I'm glad they did not go that far.

[41:38] Especially because I think she's the only

[41:41] fully sympathetic character in the film, so.

[41:45] Even though she puts, she drops down, like, you know,

[41:49] like, what do you call them?

[41:51] Like a thing where she says,

[41:52] you got to pick me or your brother sort of thing.

[41:54] An ultimatum.

[41:55] An ultimatum.

[41:56] Yeah, thank you.

[41:56] Those things.

[41:57] I think it was you using the word drop

[42:01] that threw me off at first.

[42:02] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[42:03] Okay, so the crime boss.

[42:06] He's losing his people.

[42:08] He shows up and holds Sue and Nancy at gunpoint.

[42:13] Nancy's revealed that she knows-

[42:14] What if Sid and Nancy was called Sue and Nancy?

[42:15] Instead of Sid Vicious, it was this character, Sue Buttons.

[42:18] But she was still in a relationship with Nancy.

[42:21] The Nancy Spudgeon.

[42:22] Hmm, I think it would be good still, right?

[42:27] But also, I should mention,

[42:28] it's Gary Oldman playing Sue Buttons.

[42:30] Sue would get the drama that she really craves out of life.

[42:35] Sort of the attention, the tabloid attention.

[42:39] Yeah, all right, I'll fund it.

[42:41] I mean, despite the fact that, again, as we've addressed,

[42:44] Gary Oldman is an old man, I think he could do it.

[42:48] He wasn't at the time, though.

[42:49] Okay, now forget about it.

[42:50] I mean, he's always been an old man.

[42:52] At the time?

[42:53] What time?

[42:54] At the time he made Sid and Nancy.

[42:56] I mean, he was a young man.

[42:57] I'm like, this is a new movie, Elliot.

[42:59] If you check the credits,

[43:00] it says Sid played by Gary Youngman.

[43:03] Gary, currently a young man.

[43:05] Okay, now it's Sid and Nancy, but it's called Sue and Nancy.

[43:08] But instead, the Sue is Sue Grafton,

[43:09] the author of the B is for Burglar and M is for Murder,

[43:12] like those mystery novels.

[43:15] How would the story be different?

[43:15] I think you're doing it.

[43:16] Yeah, I think you're doing it.

[43:17] Passed away right before she made it to Z.

[43:21] Yeah, sad.

[43:22] Well, the Z was gonna be-

[43:23] And then Nancy is the Nancy from the comic strips, right?

[43:26] Exactly.

[43:27] It's Sue Grafton, the mystery writer, and Nancy.

[43:30] And so instead of it being about like heroin or punk music,

[43:33] it's about like, she writes a book called B for-

[43:35] Chocolate.

[43:36] C is for Changing Room.

[43:37] B is for Bathing Suit.

[43:38] Yeah, it's just A is for Ack.

[43:40] She's just writing-

[43:42] Wait, wait, whoa, no, no, no, no, no.

[43:43] You're thinking of Kathy now.

[43:45] Nancy, of course.

[43:46] Which one is-

[43:47] Oh, Nancy earns Ernie.

[43:47] Oh, that's me.

[43:48] I got Kathy and Nancy mixed up.

[43:50] So what if it was called-

[43:51] There's a lot of beatniks involved.

[43:52] So what if it was called Sue and Kathy?

[43:53] And okay, it's about Sue Grafton and her friend Kathy,

[43:56] and she's writing these novels,

[43:57] and eventually Kathy is like,

[43:59] wait, B is for Bathing Suit,

[44:01] C is for Chocolate, A is for Ack.

[44:02] You've been writing about me.

[44:04] And Sue Grafton is like, I'm not the bad art friend.

[44:06] Are you the-

[44:07] You're the bad art friend, Kathy.

[44:08] Oh, wow.

[44:09] Topical.

[44:10] And then Nancy and Sluggo come in,

[44:11] and they, I guess, murder everybody

[44:13] because it's one of those movies that's kind of,

[44:14] not that funny, but it's trying to be kind of funny,

[44:16] and there's murders in it.

[44:17] Yeah, I get it.

[44:18] Yeah, I get what it's doing.

[44:19] Okay, so-

[44:20] Wait a minute.

[44:21] I love the Sue Grafton books now.

[44:22] Her ex-book was just called X.

[44:24] That's not okay.

[44:25] You can't do that.

[44:26] It goes-

[44:27] Yeah, it's not fair.

[44:28] B is for Vengeance.

[44:29] Not even like X marks the spot or something?

[44:30] Not X marks the spot.

[44:31] An X is for xylophone,

[44:33] and it's some kind of xylophone murder.

[44:34] Thank you.

[44:35] Thank you.

[44:36] So the crime boss shows up.

[44:39] He holds Sue and Nancy at gunpoint,

[44:42] and then he forces them to take them to the money,

[44:47] take him to the money after he shoots Nancy in the knee.

[44:51] Which, I feel like Mila Kunis really plays this well.

[44:53] Like, she is suitably freaked out

[44:56] for having gotten her kneecap pulled off.

[44:57] That's a painful injury, to be fair, to be fair.

[45:00] Yeah, you were in one of those gunfights,

[45:03] and they blasted your knee off, right?

[45:03] With the Terminator.

[45:04] Yeah, so anyway, it turns out it was all a mistake.

[45:07] The Terminator was there, but he wasn't really involved.

[45:10] So the rumors were, he was at the same Carl's Jr.

[45:13] that I was at, and he just happened to be online

[45:15] when the gunfight broke out.

[45:17] And the gunfight was between me and,

[45:20] well, we don't need to get into it.

[45:21] Anyway, it was the RoboCop.

[45:22] Yeah, you don't want to ask Phil Pender.

[45:24] I'm not allowed to talk about it

[45:25] until the civil suit is finished, yeah.

[45:27] Yeah, RoboCop, in a rare moment

[45:30] of not shooting someone in the dick,

[45:31] shot you in the knee and stuff.

[45:33] So Sue and the crime boss go to the motel

[45:37] to dig up the money.

[45:38] Meanwhile, the detectives are also going there

[45:40] to poke around and ask questions.

[45:43] Let's see, the cops interrupt the crime boss,

[45:46] who's gonna kill Nancy once he's gotten the money.

[45:49] So they-

[45:50] He's made Nancy-

[45:51] Start flying?

[45:52] Dig up the money, and then it's gonna become her grave,

[45:55] as far as they know.

[45:57] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[45:57] So there's a brief gunfight.

[46:01] Both detectives are shot and killed.

[46:03] The crime boss is shot and killed.

[46:04] Sue is the only one left standing,

[46:06] and she vows that she will turn the detectives

[46:09] into heroes as they are dying.

[46:11] And now she is famous, the end of the movie.

[46:13] Hooray, breaking news, the movie's over.

[46:16] She's written herself a book.

[46:19] She's on Juliette Lewis's program again.

[46:22] Gloria Michaels.

[46:23] Oh, and we learned that Emma Rose was found alive

[46:26] totally fine, the little girl.

[46:29] That's in voiceover, we're told that.

[46:31] Yeah, I would have appreciated,

[46:35] not to say I would appreciate a longer runtime,

[46:38] but this tie-up seems pretty rushed,

[46:42] hurried to this sort of hand wave away.

[46:44] Like, I have no idea at the end of the movie,

[46:47] I'm like, what story she told to cover everything?

[46:54] Like, I kind of, a more skillful version of this movie.

[46:57] You gotta read her book, Dan, gotta read her book.

[47:00] Well, I mean, you see a movie like this,

[47:02] and the loose ends are breaking twos.

[47:05] Breaking news in Tuba County.

[47:07] It's actually, it is a place called Tuba County,

[47:10] where everyone plays the tuba.

[47:11] But Dan, you're saying?

[47:13] I just, no, a movie like this, typically,

[47:16] when well-made, the loose ends are either tied off

[47:18] or it's very clear that the ones that aren't tied off

[47:22] are not tied off for a reason.

[47:24] Whereas this just sort of hand waves away

[47:26] whatever happens in between her sitting next to two

[47:30] dead police officers and a crime boss,

[47:32] and her appearing on Juliette Lewis's program.

[47:35] Yeah.

[47:36] Hey Dan, do you think if this movie had been a big hit,

[47:38] that there would be Facebook targeted ads

[47:40] for combo t-shirts, where it's like,

[47:43] it'll say like breaking news.

[47:45] Well, it'll say breaking news in Bloom County,

[47:47] and it would be the Bloom County characters

[47:49] dressed up like they're the Yuba County characters.

[47:51] What do you think, Dan?

[47:52] Do you think that would have been a big,

[47:52] if it had been a big hit, they would have done that?

[47:53] It'd be like breaking news.

[47:54] The two-thang shirt you've been looking for.

[47:56] Breaking news in Yawapatopha County,

[47:58] and it's all the Faulkner heroes from the WFCU,

[48:02] the William Faulkner cinematic heroes.

[48:05] They would have done that, right?

[48:06] Yeah, probably.

[48:08] That's cool, that would have been cool.

[48:09] Yeah, I think they probably would have done that.

[48:11] This is a weird movie also because they wrap it up,

[48:12] and then the credits start,

[48:13] and then there's a mid-credits scene

[48:15] as if they're teasing another movie.

[48:17] And it's-

[48:18] Now, Stewart, did you see this mid-credits?

[48:19] I didn't see this shit.

[48:20] You've got to stop turning off the movie immediately.

[48:23] At least fast forward through the credits.

[48:25] Just scan through.

[48:26] So, Allison Janney is on the,

[48:28] where she's talking to Juliette Lewis,

[48:30] and it's a year later.

[48:32] And she's like, oh, my book is such a big hit.

[48:34] And Juliette Lewis is like,

[48:36] you've inspired me to write a book.

[48:37] I'm gonna write a book.

[48:38] And she's like, oh, well, then I'm gonna write another book

[48:40] and we're gonna go on a book tour together.

[48:42] And it's this weird scene where clearly

[48:44] they are both trying to exploit each other to make money

[48:46] and they do not want to be friends.

[48:47] But Allison Janney keeps roping Juliette Lewis in

[48:51] and it's clear Juliette Lewis does not want to do,

[48:54] Gloria Michaels does not want to be connected

[48:55] to this person anymore.

[48:56] And it's just this weird little sketch that I wasn't,

[49:00] to be honest, it might have been my favorite

[49:02] non-Wanda Sykes scene in the movie,

[49:03] but I couldn't understand why it was there necessarily.

[49:05] Yeah.

[49:06] No, I agree, Elliot, that like,

[49:09] in terms of actual like comic juice,

[49:12] like that scene felt a little like sharper

[49:16] than the rest of the film.

[49:18] Well, it felt like a sketch that had a premise

[49:20] where these two characters are both trying

[49:24] to be the one exploiting the other for gain

[49:26] and they won't let up.

[49:28] But it's, and it hints at a sharper film, perhaps,

[49:34] or even a sharper image.

[49:36] If you were watching the TV like I was with-

[49:39] Oh, like a 4K.

[49:40] Yeah, if we're watching in 4K,

[49:41] this was available in 4K,

[49:42] I did not spring for the extra to see it in 4K,

[49:46] but you know.

[49:47] Is that where they like spray water in your face and shit?

[49:49] I saw it in Forky,

[49:50] where they have the character Forky from Toy Story 4

[49:54] just, you know, edited in.

[49:55] He's just like, ah, this is uncomfortable.

[49:58] Yeah.

[49:59] When the violence-

[50:00] happens it's like I don't know how to handle this I'm forky yeah someone told

[50:05] me that they went to see Dune in 4d and they're like yeah and the seat like

[50:07] shakes and stuff and I was like the same way that like the same way that it was

[50:15] part of me that always felt a little bit like I was I was cheapening my weight

[50:19] what do you when I was what do you think would happen in 4d at Dune like if if

[50:23] the sheet is seat isn't shaking what should be nothing you just sit and watch

[50:26] a movie and it's made of sound and image you know now it's not in 4d yeah

[50:30] that's okay with me but the same way you need that extra you don't need well as

[50:33] I said before all movies are already in 3d because it's a depth it's height

[50:38] width and time the extra 4d you don't extra D you don't need it I don't need

[50:42] that extra D extra D then I know I saw that shirt that said she needs the D and

[50:45] I'm like not that 4d sir 3d is fine but uh the how did the guy react when you

[50:51] said really oh I've got a rethink this shirt and he he went on a voyage of

[50:57] self-discovery and now he's doing a lot better and now now his shirt says she

[51:02] can choose to implement the D rather than that she needs but it's like I

[51:07] still don't think it we should just buy it if yeah when he really just wrote

[51:11] over with marker it didn't work when I was a kid and I'd plug in my rumble pack

[51:16] into my n64 controller and play Star Fox it felt like I was cheapening the

[51:20] experience a little bit so I feel like the 4d chair would do that too yeah it

[51:24] also made it harder to play because you're trying to use a controller and

[51:27] it's shaking in your hands I mean that's part of the challenge bro well

[51:30] that's so is it supposed to be challenging to watch a movie like the

[51:32] chair is shaking to make it harder to see the film I have never gone to a 4d

[51:39] movie I've heard tell of them Audrey's been to a couple I hear that it's like

[51:45] you get it's almost like you get punched in the back at different points sounds

[51:48] like Audrey's the fun if you go to if you go to see doing all the times that

[51:54] uh that that Duncan Idaho like slaps Paula Trades on the back the back of

[51:59] your chair hits you too and it's like oh now I know what it's like when Jason

[52:01] Momoa hits me on the back affectionately yeah now I'm regretting not going to see

[52:06] Teton in 4d but okay what about what about the person is super excited about

[52:13] seeing Teton and they're like I've heard this is really gonna push my boundaries

[52:16] this is gonna be something I've never seen before but he actually got tickets

[52:18] to Titan AE and he's like what is this this is not the movie I was promised I

[52:23] don't know man it's pretty cool too where are we talking about final

[52:27] judgments if this is a good bad movie a bad bad movie or movie kind of like I I

[52:33] will admit something shameful which is like I didn't hate this like their

[52:37] movies we watched that are really sort of boring and are trying to do nothing

[52:42] and this movie I don't think is very successful mostly because I think it has

[52:47] this just a sort of sitcom level direction of everything but but I do

[52:53] have a soft spot for like movies where like a bunch of dumb criminals make

[52:59] things worse for one another yeah and I also like the cast of this quite a bit

[53:04] so this is one of these ones that for me falls outside our regular categories but

[53:09] in another category we often invoke which is like I don't know if I was

[53:13] falling asleep to this on a Sunday it'd be okay but what do you guys think I had

[53:19] a much stronger response to it I thought this was a bad bad movie I in theory I

[53:25] always like in theory I like Coen Brothers esque movies where a bunch of

[53:30] dumb criminals run around and get into trouble and get killed but for it to

[53:34] work for me it's either got to be really funny or it's got to be so stylized

[53:39] that I don't feel bad for the characters or if I do feel bad for the

[53:43] characters that's what the movie wants me to do and here I felt like it was not

[53:46] funny enough or unreal enough for me to get over the fact that like I'm seeing a

[53:52] woman getting a drill put through her head or seeing you know part of another

[53:56] I mean you don't actually see it but I know it's happening but even in the

[53:59] moment would have been wild it would have been very well like yeah you know

[54:02] what I was that's that's a good point it would have it would have been much more

[54:06] extreme than but the or seeing like Ellen Barkin genuinely like distraught

[54:12] that her wife has just been killed like it did not it couldn't stick that

[54:16] landing and I just ended up being it was just one of those movies where I was

[54:18] like why are all these people in this movie like why are these why is this

[54:21] there's this level of talent in this movie and it just couldn't it couldn't

[54:26] pull off what is admittedly a very hard task which is to do a like a funny dark

[54:32] comedy where you're not put off by people people getting killed left and

[54:35] right you know but for me it it went into the distasteful territory yeah yeah

[54:42] I mean I think I'll say I'm kind of in between you guys but I think it'll still

[54:46] be a bad bad for me obviously the cast is great all the performers proven

[54:52] themselves and other things a hundred times over but I feel like with this

[54:57] type of movie I think it it felt like yeah it felt like kind of like a sitcom

[55:02] level direction as opposed to like a slightly more patient more character

[55:07] driven like a little like it could have been a little quirkier I guess like yeah

[55:12] you know to give these characters a little more time to define themselves so

[55:16] that when terrible things happen it actually has some emotional weight other

[55:20] than oh this is bad so yeah it's yeah it didn't really work for me breaking news

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[1:01:34] Before we move on, you got any plugs, anyone?

[1:01:36] Plugs, plugs?

[1:01:37] Call for plugs.

[1:01:38] I'd like to remind, oh, Stu, you go first.

[1:01:41] It's okay.

[1:01:43] Oh, no, no, no.

[1:01:44] You go first, Elliot.

[1:01:45] No, no, Stu.

[1:01:46] I was going to tell everybody about how

[1:01:47] the Maniac of New York Volume 1 Trade Paperback Collection

[1:01:50] is out now in stores, but you go first

[1:01:52] because they don't need to find out till later

[1:01:54] that they can also pre-order issues

[1:01:55] of Maniac of New York, The Bronx is Burning,

[1:01:57] the new series that's going to be out next year.

[1:01:59] Again, that's my slasher comic book that asks the question,

[1:02:02] what if The Wire, instead of being in Baltimore

[1:02:04] and being about drugs, was in New York

[1:02:06] and was about a Jason-type killer

[1:02:08] that was loose in the city?

[1:02:09] But again, they can find out about

[1:02:10] the Maniac of New York Trade Paperback

[1:02:12] that's in stores now later.

[1:02:13] Stu, you go first.

[1:02:15] So, Elliot, are you sure you don't want to go first?

[1:02:18] No, I feel like I shouldn't go first.

[1:02:20] Again, I could tell them that, again,

[1:02:21] they can pre-order the second series,

[1:02:23] Maniac of New York, The Bronx is Burning,

[1:02:24] through their comic book stores now,

[1:02:25] but instead I think you should go first.

[1:02:27] Do you think I'm going to look like an asshole if I go first?

[1:02:30] I don't think so.

[1:02:31] I think, you know what,

[1:02:32] as much as people want to hear about Maniac of New York,

[1:02:34] the Trade Paperback Collection,

[1:02:35] which is on stores right now,

[1:02:36] that's written by me and aren't by Entry Moody,

[1:02:38] that's from Aftershocks Comics.

[1:02:39] On stores?

[1:02:41] I think that they can hear about that after you talk,

[1:02:43] so you go first.

[1:02:45] Okay, so hey, listeners, my name is Stuart Wellington.

[1:02:49] In addition to being a hit hot podcaster,

[1:02:54] I am also the owner of two-

[1:02:54] Wait, a hit hot podcaster?

[1:02:57] Nope.

[1:02:58] If you listen to my words carefully,

[1:02:59] I said a hit, comma, hot podcaster.

[1:03:03] Now are you a hit podcaster

[1:03:05] because you're a hot podcaster, or are they, I don't know.

[1:03:07] Oh, you're a hot podcaster because you're a hit podcaster.

[1:03:10] Those are questions you're going to have to answer yourself.

[1:03:12] That's the thing.

[1:03:13] I don't feel like I have the information necessary

[1:03:14] to come to a conclusion on those.

[1:03:17] Well, that's an answer, too.

[1:03:18] Mark's CEO on viewers.

[1:03:20] Mark's CEO.

[1:03:21] He's filling in the bubble and scanning 100%.

[1:03:24] I got it right.

[1:03:25] I passed the test, and I'm now a lawyer.

[1:03:26] Great.

[1:03:27] Wow.

[1:03:29] Okay, well, I'm in a jam right now, Ellen.

[1:03:31] And that jam is I own a couple of small bars

[1:03:35] in Brooklyn, New York.

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[1:03:37] They're not that small.

[1:03:38] Thank you, thank you.

[1:03:39] They're great bars called Minnie's Bar and Hinterland's Bar.

[1:03:43] And if you are in the city of Brooklyn, New York,

[1:03:46] you should come out and visit sometime

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[1:03:57] Elliot, you had a plug?

[1:03:59] You know what?

[1:04:00] I'll do it next episode.

[1:04:01] Okay.

[1:04:02] Okay.

[1:04:04] Let's move on to some letters from listeners.

[1:04:06] Yeah, why not?

[1:04:07] People who listen can also write.

[1:04:10] And sometimes they write us letters.

[1:04:14] That's this segment.

[1:04:15] I feel like you're fucking teasing Elliot with that shit.

[1:04:18] Yeah, I don't know.

[1:04:18] I don't get it.

[1:04:19] I don't know what you're looking for.

[1:04:20] Ooh.

[1:04:22] This, uh.

[1:04:23] Hey now, we got some letters coming your way.

[1:04:26] That's right, there's letters coming in today.

[1:04:30] All right, there's letters coming through the air.

[1:04:33] They're being thrown by some kind of great

[1:04:35] mailman picture guy.

[1:04:37] Hey look, it's famous picture Randy Johnson.

[1:04:40] He's a mailman now and he's throwing those letters

[1:04:43] right through the air into the mailbox.

[1:04:46] Oh no, a bird was in the way.

[1:04:48] It's dead now.

[1:04:49] Hit by letters.

[1:04:51] What?

[1:04:53] I like that one.

[1:04:54] That one had like a sort of a coming to America vibe.

[1:04:57] They're coming to Flophouse now.

[1:04:59] Letters.

[1:05:02] Today.

[1:05:03] Okay, this first letter is from Juniper.

[1:05:05] Turn on your mailbox.

[1:05:09] Juniper, last name withheld, writes,

[1:05:12] I write to you regarding my recent revisit

[1:05:14] of Disney's Chicken Little starring Zach Braff.

[1:05:17] Sure.

[1:05:18] As is often the case.

[1:05:21] Yeah, we get that a lot.

[1:05:25] Another surprising sentence.

[1:05:28] As a bare naked.

[1:05:29] Wait, was he live action or was it voice?

[1:05:31] As a bare naked ladies fan, I was surprised

[1:05:35] and elated to hear them perform as part of the movie

[1:05:38] One Little Slip from the Chicken Little soundtrack.

[1:05:41] Oh wait, sorry.

[1:05:41] No, sorry, I read that wrong.

[1:05:43] I was surprised and elated to hear them perform

[1:05:46] as part of the movie.

[1:05:47] Okay.

[1:05:48] And One Little Slip, that's the name of the song,

[1:05:50] from the Chicken Little soundtrack

[1:05:52] has become a permanent installment in my Spotify library.

[1:05:56] Aside from this and Don Knotts being cast as a turkey

[1:05:59] who is also the mayor, the film was terrible.

[1:06:02] My question to you is this.

[1:06:03] Are there any songs from a movie soundtrack

[1:06:05] that stand out in quality such that you'll listen to it

[1:06:08] outside the context of the movie?

[1:06:10] Extra points if the quality of the movie itself

[1:06:12] is much lower than that of the song.

[1:06:15] You're as always a juniper, last name withheld.

[1:06:17] You know, the first one that comes to mind is,

[1:06:20] I'm a big fan of Who's Johnny by Elda Barge.

[1:06:25] Okay.

[1:06:26] From Short Circuit.

[1:06:27] Yeah, sure.

[1:06:28] To the degree that Audrey and I were making out like-

[1:06:30] It's your fucking first dance song, right?

[1:06:32] DJ list for the wedding.

[1:06:34] And I'm like, would it be too ridiculous

[1:06:37] to put Who's Johnny by Elda Barge

[1:06:39] on the list of songs I want played?

[1:06:41] Would I be the only one dancing to that?

[1:06:44] I think you'd be the only one dancing

[1:06:45] without a look of confusion on your face,

[1:06:47] but other people would be dancing, yeah.

[1:06:50] Yeah.

[1:06:51] You guys have any?

[1:06:53] I mean, yeah.

[1:06:54] I feel like the 90s was filled with killer soundtracks

[1:06:57] for like any movie that came out

[1:06:59] had fucking amazing soundtracks.

[1:07:01] Kiss from a Rose, dude.

[1:07:02] There's nothing in it about Batman.

[1:07:03] Hell yeah, dude.

[1:07:03] Nothing's better than that song.

[1:07:04] Yeah.

[1:07:06] Man, yeah.

[1:07:07] I'm trying to think.

[1:07:08] I feel like most of the,

[1:07:11] like the Crowe soundtrack was great.

[1:07:12] The Judgment Night soundtrack was great.

[1:07:14] And Judgment Night's not a good movie, right?

[1:07:17] It's fine.

[1:07:17] Guys?

[1:07:20] What about like American Werewolf in Paris had,

[1:07:22] yeah, there's some bangers on there.

[1:07:24] Like, what the fuck?

[1:07:25] But not matched, because it's not in London.

[1:07:27] It's in Paris.

[1:07:28] I mean, recently, this is,

[1:07:29] I'm skipping ahead to my recommendation this week,

[1:07:31] but I, after watching Teton,

[1:07:35] I immediately went out and bought that song,

[1:07:39] that album by The Kills,

[1:07:40] that has the song from the car show sequence,

[1:07:42] because it's great.

[1:07:43] And I added it to my workout routine.

[1:07:46] Nice.

[1:07:47] There are a lot of songs that I listen to

[1:07:49] outside of the context of the movie.

[1:07:51] I don't know if that,

[1:07:52] I would call the movies bad necessarily,

[1:07:54] but like, there's a,

[1:07:55] Metallica fans are well,

[1:07:56] well familiar with the song,

[1:07:57] The Ecstasy of Gold by Neil Morcone

[1:07:59] from The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly,

[1:08:01] which is an amazing song that I would play all the time.

[1:08:04] There's, I used to have a CD.

[1:08:06] I guess I still have it,

[1:08:07] but I don't have a CD player.

[1:08:09] It was called The Best of Godzilla,

[1:08:10] volume one, 1954 to 1975.

[1:08:12] And there's a bunch of great songs on there

[1:08:13] by Ikiro Ifukube.

[1:08:15] There's one called,

[1:08:16] there's two songs from Godzilla versus Mechagodzilla

[1:08:18] in particular that I love.

[1:08:19] Godzilla versus Anguirus,

[1:08:21] which is this kind of like real jazzy,

[1:08:23] kind of like 60s rock song.

[1:08:27] And one called Miyarabi's Prayer,

[1:08:29] where this character is singing

[1:08:30] to the giant monster King Caesar

[1:08:32] to come help stop the bad monsters.

[1:08:35] But the version on that disc is just like,

[1:08:37] feels like a very jazzy kind of like torch song almost.

[1:08:41] But you know, 70s kind of torch song.

[1:08:43] There's a song from the movie Zangier

[1:08:46] called Chakuchurian Tezcaralo,

[1:08:48] which translates as get your knives sharpened.

[1:08:50] And that's a song I really like

[1:08:53] from an Indian movie from the 70s.

[1:08:54] So I'll throw those songs on all the time,

[1:08:56] but I don't watch those movies particularly regularly.

[1:09:00] But I like to pull those songs

[1:09:03] from the context of the film.

[1:09:05] Just listen to them.

[1:09:06] There's a lot of songs from foreign movies

[1:09:08] that I find myself like listening to a lot

[1:09:12] outside the movie.

[1:09:13] There's a song called Por Que Te Va, I think,

[1:09:16] from the movie Crea Cuervos,

[1:09:18] that was like a pop hit at the time.

[1:09:20] It's a Spanish language pop hit,

[1:09:22] and I'll find myself listening to that one a lot.

[1:09:24] So yeah, there's tons of songs

[1:09:26] that you can listen to outside of the movies.

[1:09:27] Those aren't bad movies necessarily,

[1:09:30] but you know, why not?

[1:09:32] Hey, I make the rules.

[1:09:33] This is my life.

[1:09:35] I don't care what you say anymore.

[1:09:36] This is my life.

[1:09:40] Billy Joel sang this song.

[1:09:42] Now I'm taking it from him.

[1:09:47] Now this song is gonna be my song.

[1:09:53] This next letter is from Sean, last name withheld.

[1:10:00] hello floppers I would love some advice I want to watch scary movies but I'm a

[1:10:06] gigantic scaredy-cat I'm afraid of gore of jump scares of being scared I enjoy

[1:10:12] alien and aliens I love to get out and I generally like thrillers mostly I just

[1:10:17] want to watch mother judging by the fact that I agree with the flophouse on the

[1:10:22] fountain the prestige annihilation and the fall I think I might be in the group

[1:10:26] of people who would like mother so how do I do it how can I train myself to

[1:10:32] like scary movies and also a series of postscripts Dan you responded to an

[1:10:37] email from me when I wrote to thank you all for giving me through the long night

[1:10:41] after putting my cat down it was really kind of you I still think about it stew

[1:10:45] I worked full and part-time in restaurants for nearly 20 years I feel

[1:10:49] for y'all right now you're doing okay also please keep the Instagram thirst

[1:10:54] pics and videos coming I can't stop I'm addicted Elliot when is the next picture

[1:10:58] book I run the children's slash why a section of a daily newsletter focused on

[1:11:03] books and indie bookstores and I've been loving keeping up with the kids book

[1:11:06] careers of different max fun stirs nice Oh help getting the scary movies I mean

[1:11:13] that's kind of tough like wait did did we they like mother they had to watch

[1:11:19] oh yeah it's not scary it's just super stressful it's like as I've said it is a

[1:11:24] perfect encapsulation of my bartending stress dreams it's great the feeling

[1:11:30] that like people keep coming in and I'm like it's 4 a.m. you got to get the fuck

[1:11:34] out considering the scariest part of it is when those people keep sitting on the

[1:11:36] sink and she keeps saying stop sitting on the sink and they will not stop

[1:11:39] sitting on the sink like that it's it's like it's there's a scene in call me by

[1:11:44] your name where I think Timothee Chalamet like doesn't close a refrigerator door

[1:11:48] and the shot just lingers on it and I'm like oh my god just close it there was

[1:11:56] it there was a movie recently I was watching with my wife and there was a

[1:11:58] scene where the character left the house without turning the lights off and I was

[1:12:01] like uh it's not that big an emergency like can you please turn those lights

[1:12:05] off and she started laughing at me but yeah mother is um it's yeah it's not

[1:12:09] scary so much as like appalling in a good way like I feel like yeah it's a

[1:12:14] shock to the system but it's not alike I guess there's a couple kind of there's

[1:12:18] one or two like almost jump-scary moments but they're not it's not like a

[1:12:21] horror horror movie it's more about yeah it's more like a sort of a relentless

[1:12:25] grinding down yes I mean I think that was my favorite of that year like I

[1:12:30] really loved that movie and part of the reasons because the movie starts off in

[1:12:34] like where you're like I get what kind of movie this is it's kind of like a

[1:12:38] it's kind of like a horror movie and it keeps going through stages where you're

[1:12:42] like what is this movie and then by the end you're like oh I knew what that

[1:12:45] movie was at the by the end of it yeah what an experience yeah but I did really

[1:12:49] like it I mean when it comes to watching horror movies I mean the only thing for

[1:12:55] it is to do it I know that like Audrey did not watch horror movies like she

[1:13:02] sounds kind of like you and that she's interested in them so she would like

[1:13:07] read the synopsis on Wikipedia but she would not watch it and then she fell in

[1:13:11] with me and all my nerd friends who love horror movies and has been sort of by

[1:13:16] osmosis exposed to a lot more and I think is a lot less scared because of it

[1:13:22] but I also would like to say you know don't don't seek to not be scared

[1:13:28] because like part I what I wouldn't give to still be scared by a horror movie

[1:13:33] which is not to say I'm like particularly brave because I am NOT but

[1:13:37] I'm so used to watching horror movies now that like if one genuinely scares

[1:13:41] like a comfort zone treat yeah treat it scares me I'm like oh something broke

[1:13:46] through my hard candy show you're the decadent centibite who is piercing his

[1:13:52] flesh in the hopes that he will someday feel aroused by something again because

[1:13:56] you're so over physical pleasure yeah yeah if Dan was a centibite he would be

[1:13:59] the CD head but replace the CDs with steel box yeah the yeah I would say my

[1:14:10] bit of advice would be pick horror movies that you want to watch that seem

[1:14:14] like they might be a little bit fun and then watch them with the lights on with

[1:14:18] a group so don't start with martyrs is what you're saying I would not recommend

[1:14:22] anything anything from the French crazy horror wave of crazy horror I feel like

[1:14:29] it's okay not to like scary movies and to not like being scared I have two

[1:14:33] children one of whom loves scary things the other one does not like scary things

[1:14:37] at all and I love them both equally so if that means anything it's okay I would

[1:14:42] say a way to get into it might be to start with like eerie or creepy movies

[1:14:46] I'm a bit there's a lot of older what we call horror movies now like the

[1:14:51] Universal Monster movies or the Val Luton produced horror movies like cat

[1:14:55] people or the seventh victim or even some later movies like the innocence or

[1:14:59] the others even which is a real you know it's 20 years almost 30 years old at

[1:15:03] this point but like the it's a their movies that are less like scary scary

[1:15:07] and more just creating an eerie or unsettling atmosphere and that might be

[1:15:11] a way to get into those kinds of movies where it's not you're not jumping

[1:15:15] straight to someone getting like a knife through their face and instead you're

[1:15:20] starting with like oh you just happen to be inhabiting this kind of strange

[1:15:23] eerie worlds you know I don't know anyway but that's to say that like you

[1:15:28] don't need to be into horror movies to watch mother you just have to be ready

[1:15:31] for a movie to keep assaulting you with with moments of discomfort that you

[1:15:37] weren't expecting ahead of time yeah yeah but like I said the main the main

[1:15:41] horror of the movie is there are people in my house how that why won't they get

[1:15:44] out of my house which is but not in a scary way just in a like I need these

[1:15:48] people out of my fucking house like yeah super relatable it's great it's

[1:15:52] great okay well let's let's close with our traditional final segment which is

[1:15:59] recommendations movies of movies around movies that we've seen and would

[1:16:04] recommend to others I wanted to recommend a movie that I saw as part of

[1:16:10] a friend's horror marathon they were doing it's called a primal rage it's

[1:16:16] from 1988 set the video game where the monkey farts on it is indeed well this

[1:16:23] does not involve a monkey that farts but it does involve a baboon that gives

[1:16:27] people a rage virus the virus gas it's good question that's what I was gonna

[1:16:36] ask this movie was a made by an Italian creative team but like but shot in

[1:16:43] Florida with American actors and it is basically what I'm always hoping for

[1:16:50] when I like I'm like oh I haven't seen this trashy 80s yeah horror movie like

[1:16:55] it has the like the zing that I'm looking for it's got a bunch like it is

[1:17:00] dumb in a lot of ways like you know you couldn't sell it to someone as like an

[1:17:07] unabashed good movie like there's a bunch of like dopey stuff in it that's

[1:17:11] fun to laugh at but it's also done with a certain briskness and like stuff's

[1:17:17] always happening and a bunch of gross horror effects and just goopy stuff and

[1:17:24] silly I don't know it's just it's just fun it's like a fun trash 80s horror

[1:17:30] movie if that's the kind of thing and that's enough you don't you don't have

[1:17:33] to feel defensive enough yeah yeah that's it I'm gonna recommend two movies

[1:17:38] this time the first one I've already mentioned and that is Teton the palm

[1:17:44] door with her from this year it's an intense movie it's gory and gross and

[1:17:51] weird and has a lot of body horror but it's I mean it's certainly not like

[1:17:57] other movies you're gonna watch right now it's directed by written and directed

[1:18:03] by I'm gonna butcher her name Julie DeCarno DeCarno who made raw which is

[1:18:08] also amazing and Teton is I don't know if I'm gonna go into the plot but I will

[1:18:17] paraphrase my friend April Wolf when she described it as a movie that tries out

[1:18:22] being about like three or four different types of movies before settling on the

[1:18:26] weirdest option I found it both upsetting and also like very

[1:18:33] heartwarming and touching at times it's great and the second movie I'm going to

[1:18:38] recommend but also with Teton like if you are squeamish it's it's pretty

[1:18:45] intense the second movie I'm gonna recommend is gonna be coming out on

[1:18:50] blu-ray from our friends at vinegar syndrome and it's a movie called a New

[1:18:55] York Ninja it is a movie that was shot in 1984 and the after it was shot the

[1:19:03] project was abandoned and the director and star retired so the and then the 37

[1:19:11] years later the unedited reels were picked up by vinegar syndrome and they

[1:19:16] decide to edit the whole thing together rerecord audio and music for the whole

[1:19:21] movie and they release it and it manages to be this kind of like like

[1:19:27] perfect 80s like ninja action movie featuring a New York City that is

[1:19:33] overrun with what appears to be the same gang of guys garishly dressed in weirdly

[1:19:41] padded outfits who are stalking around the city and kidnapping women and the

[1:19:47] only recourse is for one man to become a ninja wearing what appears to be like

[1:19:53] bedsheets and it's like it's very silly every scene like there's something

[1:20:00] I feel like because it's been edited recently,

[1:20:02] edited together recently, like it flows really well.

[1:20:06] Every scene is like funny and weird.

[1:20:09] It's, yeah, it's really fun.

[1:20:11] New York Ninja.

[1:20:12] In a New York Ninja,

[1:20:14] that's that song that you may have heard before.

[1:20:17] I am gonna be recommending a movie

[1:20:19] that's not from New York.

[1:20:21] It's from Russia, but it's a newish movie.

[1:20:24] It's not, this is not a,

[1:20:26] this is not an old movie from Eastern Europe.

[1:20:28] Do we have to guess what it is by what it isn't?

[1:20:31] Okay, so it doesn't have like a cat bus in it,

[1:20:35] like My Neighbor Totoro, and they don't go to the moon.

[1:20:40] There's no scenes with James Hong in it.

[1:20:42] Is this helping you figure out what movie it is?

[1:20:45] Is it Stalker?

[1:20:46] No, it's not.

[1:20:47] It's Dear Comrades.

[1:20:48] That's right, from 2020.

[1:20:50] Dear Comrades, directed by Andrei Konchalovsky,

[1:20:53] who is best known here for Tangled Cash and Runaway Train,

[1:20:57] but who in Russia has made much less Tango and Cashy movies

[1:21:02] than the ones that he's made in the United States.

[1:21:05] I'm out.

[1:21:05] Sorry, yeah.

[1:21:06] I shouldn't have said that,

[1:21:09] but it's a movie that stars Julia Vysotskaya,

[1:21:11] and she plays the part of a party bureaucrat

[1:21:15] in the early 60s,

[1:21:17] who is kind of a real toe-of-the-line communist,

[1:21:23] and she witnesses a massacre of striking workers

[1:21:26] that the government then covers up,

[1:21:28] and goes on a hunt to find out

[1:21:29] whether her daughter was part of that massacre,

[1:21:31] and if her daughter's still alive or not,

[1:21:33] and it looks beautiful.

[1:21:34] It's shot in that crisp black and white

[1:21:36] that I love for my Eastern European cinema.

[1:21:38] The acting is great.

[1:21:39] The story is really gripping.

[1:21:40] You don't really need to know anything

[1:21:42] about Russian history to get it.

[1:21:44] It's based on the story of a real-life massacre

[1:21:47] of striking workers, but you don't need to know that,

[1:21:50] and you're just following this woman

[1:21:52] on this kind of grueling emotional journey

[1:21:55] as she has to start doubting all the things

[1:21:58] that she's kind of taken for granted around her,

[1:22:00] and it's just really good.

[1:22:01] It's called Dear Comrades!

[1:22:03] Just like Mother!

[1:22:05] The title also ends with an exclamation point,

[1:22:07] so that's Dear Comrades!

[1:22:10] And it's available a bunch of places.

[1:22:12] It's on Hulu right now, and it's on Canopy right now,

[1:22:14] so, you know.

[1:22:15] Tubi?

[1:22:16] Is it on Tubi?

[1:22:17] Probably.

[1:22:18] I seem to find that everything is on Tubi.

[1:22:20] Tubi is this, it's like discovering

[1:22:22] that there was like a dumpster behind your house

[1:22:26] that somehow is full of gold.

[1:22:28] That's what Tubi is to me.

[1:22:29] It's like, I walk past it every day,

[1:22:31] and I'm like, there's nothing good in there,

[1:22:32] and I finally look inside, and I'm like,

[1:22:34] everything good is in here.

[1:22:35] This is amazing.

[1:22:36] Yeah, that's amazing.

[1:22:38] Come on, Tubi.

[1:22:39] Let's make this happen.

[1:22:40] Let's become an official sponsor.

[1:22:42] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1:22:43] I feel like, well, maybe.

[1:22:44] Why don't you produce the Flopass TV show?

[1:22:46] They might not.

[1:22:47] A Tubi original.

[1:22:49] I would totally do it as a Tubi original.

[1:22:50] I feel like I have to stop referring to them

[1:22:51] as a dumpster full of gold,

[1:22:53] but there's something about a free ad-supported service

[1:22:57] where I'm like, there's no way

[1:22:58] there's gonna be good stuff on there,

[1:22:59] and there's so many good movies on there,

[1:23:01] and such a huge variety of good movies.

[1:23:03] Like, it's nuts.

[1:23:04] And so many terrible movies.

[1:23:05] And a lot of crap.

[1:23:05] That's great about it.

[1:23:06] And a lot of crap, yeah, but still.

[1:23:08] Tubi, we're here.

[1:23:09] Sponsor us.

[1:23:12] All right, well, you know, this has been great,

[1:23:15] but all great things have endings,

[1:23:19] including this episode.

[1:23:20] And bad things do, too, yeah.

[1:23:22] Yeah, but before we go,

[1:23:23] I would like to thank our producer, Alex Smith,

[1:23:27] for all the work he does for us on the show,

[1:23:29] making it sound great.

[1:23:31] I would like to advise you, the listener,

[1:23:33] to go check out other shows on the MaxFun Network

[1:23:37] over at MaximumFun.org.

[1:23:39] There's a lot of funny shows,

[1:23:41] there's a lot of informative shows.

[1:23:42] There's something to your taste there.

[1:23:45] I guarantee.

[1:23:47] Unless you like garbage.

[1:23:48] Binding.

[1:23:50] If you like bad things, then steer clear.

[1:23:52] But if you like good things, go for it.

[1:23:54] Then stick with us.

[1:23:55] You're gonna find something.

[1:23:56] But until next time, for The Flop House,

[1:23:59] I've been Dan McCoy.

[1:24:00] Hey, it's me, Stuart Wellington.

[1:24:02] And I'm Elliot Kalin, talking like this for some reason.

[1:24:06] Cool.

[1:24:07] Cool.

[1:24:08] Bye.

[1:24:12] On this episode, we discuss breaking news in Yuba County.

[1:24:17] The only comedy movie that dares to shoot the moon

[1:24:20] by having zero laughs in it.

[1:24:22] Thus making it the funniest comedy movie ever made.

[1:24:26] No, let's do another one.

[1:24:27] Raves Aaron Sorkin.

[1:24:30] Dan's gonna be like, I laughed twice.

[1:24:31] We can't say that journalistically.

[1:24:33] So let's do another one.

[1:24:35] I tried to hold it a couple of times.

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