Ep. #356 - The Very Excellent Mr. Dundee, with Ben Harrison

[0:00] On this episode, we discuss the very excellent Mr. Dundee.

[0:05] That's not a movie. This is barely a movie.

[0:30] Hey, everyone. Welcome to the Flophouse. I'm Dan McCoy.

[0:39] Oh, hey, Dan McCoy. It's me, Stuart Wellington.

[0:42] Hey, guys. You're here, too. It's me, Elliot Kalin.

[0:45] And you know what? We also are joined by a very special guest.

[0:48] Uh-oh. Who's that in the corner? That's right. It's Ben Harrison, host of The Greatest Generation,

[0:53] and a thing he told me to say, and I forgot it.

[0:56] It was just a string of letters and numbers.

[0:58] No, it's Kpod101.3. It's another podcast co-hosted by Ben.

[1:02] Okay.

[1:03] The joke is that it's a radio station.

[1:05] Oh, okay.

[1:06] But it does have the function of just being a string of nonsense letters and numbers.

[1:09] Yeah, has it made it? I don't want to bring you on and roast you right away,

[1:13] but has it caused trouble with people trying to find this show of yours?

[1:18] Uh, no. Nobody's really trying to find it.

[1:22] I think it's just rich that Stuart, who had a podcast called Till Deaf Do Us Puh-Party.

[1:28] Uh-huh. Spelled phonetically.

[1:30] Spelled phonetically. It was the one who was like, this name is nonsense.

[1:34] Wow.

[1:35] A title that just confused me, like, I think until I was like six episodes in.

[1:41] Little episodes.

[1:42] And I finally realized why it was spelled like that.

[1:46] Yeah, thanks for the low-key drop on my podcast there.

[1:50] If you listeners at home want to find it, I think it's still on the Internet somewhere.

[1:54] I thought I was coming on to plug my thing, but I'm actually here to kind of help Stuart.

[1:59] This is a stealth plug for Stu's old Deaf Leopard podcast.

[2:04] If you'd like to hear more of producer Alex, he was the co-host of that with Stuart.

[2:09] And arguably more of me because there's only two of us, so just on law of averages.

[2:15] Okay, so yeah, Ben, thanks so much for coming on.

[2:18] I apologize in advance for the movie we watched.

[2:21] Dan was like, we got to watch this movie. I got a fucking serious boner for it.

[2:26] My exact words, I'm sure.

[2:28] He did say, I believe, I've been eyeing this one for a while.

[2:31] And then with an eggplant emoji afterwards.

[2:35] Before we heated the mics up, Elliot was expressing that he had a lot of worry that he was watching the wrong movie.

[2:44] And I felt exactly the same way.

[2:47] I was checking to make sure this was the movie we had agreed on.

[2:50] Because while we were watching it, I was like, is this?

[2:52] I looked at the text message so many times, like, it's really this?

[2:56] You know, when I was watching it, I felt like, yeah, it seems like it was more of like a series of short YouTube videos.

[3:05] Maybe that Paul Hogan would make with his celebrity friends.

[3:08] Which is maybe a venue where I would have enjoyed it more.

[3:12] It finds its natural level of just like, you know, I don't know, this celebrity goofing around on YouTube.

[3:19] I think it's the kind of thing where if you did very little to it and you chopped it into smaller chunks and released it on Adult Swim as a parody of this type of like a celebrity playing themselves in a show, I'd be like, this is hilarious.

[3:35] They got it down perfectly.

[3:38] Dude, can you believe John Cleese is on an Adult Swim thing?

[3:42] What?

[3:43] Yeah.

[3:44] My mind was blown.

[3:45] He should be on Twitter yelling about woke people for some reason.

[3:48] He's a very old man, Dan.

[3:49] He's a very old man.

[3:50] Ruining my love of him.

[3:51] He's a very old man who has always loved money.

[3:53] It's not that surprising.

[3:55] As much as he's one of my still comedy all-stars, I just don't.

[3:58] Any time there's a famous person that I love who is above a certain age, I just assume they will say things that I don't agree with and find horrible.

[4:05] That's the way I feel about him.

[4:07] That's the way I feel about the late Eli Wallach.

[4:11] I don't know what he would have said.

[4:13] He wasn't on Twitter.

[4:14] Comedy star Eli Wallach.

[4:16] I mean speaking of very old men ruining their own reputations comedically, this movie.

[4:23] Yeah, exactly.

[4:24] Look, this is – you know what, guys?

[4:26] I do want to get serious for a moment.

[4:27] They can't all be the late Ed Asner.

[4:29] Not all celebrities can be great guys politically.

[4:32] That's just the way it is.

[4:33] So just be glad we do have some Ed Asners out there and be ready to ignore things that people say when they're old.

[4:39] Okay, guys.

[4:40] Speaking of people you like to ignore when they're old, exactly.

[4:43] Yeah.

[4:44] So Paul Hogan, everybody.

[4:45] So this is a movie starring Paul Hogan.

[4:47] For the younger people in the audience, which I don't think we have that many, Paul Hogan was once very famous for playing the character Crocodile Dundee.

[4:54] Stu, Dan, Ben, who would like to explain what a Crocodile Dundee is?

[4:59] It's not a sequel to Major Dundee, the Sam Peckinpah movie about the Civil War.

[5:03] Just get that out of your head right away.

[5:04] I want to say to explain this old character, I'm going to briefly reference something nearly as old, the Australia episode of The Simpsons where they go to Australia.

[5:17] And they have some of the State Department come in and talk about how Australia and U.S. relations have been bad since we were briefly fascinated with them for a couple of years and then ignored them entirely.

[5:32] And it pans over a Yahoo!

[5:34] Sirius film festival and Lisa says, I know both of those words, but I don't understand what they mean.

[5:41] Sirius, the star of Young Einstein and Reckless Kelly and other movies, probably other things.

[5:50] But then he founded the search engine Yahoo!

[5:52] And he's a he's a billionaire now.

[5:53] Yeah, he's now he's got some serious money.

[5:56] But yet for the younger people in the 1980s, there was a brief Australia craze which took the form of the movies of Paul Hogan.

[6:04] The Crocodile Dundee movies replaced kind of like an outback outdoorsman who leaves Australia almost immediately in the movie and then is a fish out of water in New York.

[6:12] Right.

[6:13] Actually, there's a surprising amount of Australia in that movie.

[6:17] It's almost half and half.

[6:18] And it was like, yes.

[6:19] And he finds it to be an urban jungle that has just as many strange dangers as the outback.

[6:24] Yeah.

[6:25] So there's the Crocodile Dundee movies.

[6:27] There was a couple of bands and like the Land Down Under song and stuff like that.

[6:32] And there was the movie The Cars That Ate Paris.

[6:34] Fucking Midnight Oil.

[6:35] And that was basically the Australia craze.

[6:37] Crocodile Dundee.

[6:38] Those bands.

[6:39] The Cars That Ate Paris.

[6:40] Oh, and also The Wave and Last Picnic.

[6:41] And I'm sorry, Picnic and Hanging Rock.

[6:43] And yeah, it was I mean, there was everyone was watching.

[6:46] Devin Driven.

[6:47] Yeah.

[6:48] Everyone was watching Australia.

[6:49] Razorback.

[6:50] Yeah, it was a huge Australia craze.

[6:51] Patrick.

[6:52] Road games.

[6:53] Yeah, road games.

[6:54] Hell yeah.

[6:55] All good movies.

[6:56] Yeah.

[6:57] And Paul Hogan was a comedian who hit upon this character.

[6:58] Was the character like part of the like Australia PSAs he did or was it just like something

[6:59] separate?

[7:00] I think it was something separate.

[7:01] I think he did the Australia PSAs after.

[7:02] I don't know exactly.

[7:03] Yeah.

[7:04] So the Crocodile Dundee was very loosely based.

[7:06] on a guy who was living on the outback in Australia who I think turned out to be a criminal

[7:07] later on.

[7:08] But yeah.

[7:09] And and Hogan also did like two others of these movies where Stewart and I were talking

[7:10] about it before the show how like the first one's like this like light fish out of water

[7:11] romantic comedy.

[7:12] And the second two are about crime.

[7:13] Yeah.

[7:14] Yeah.

[7:15] Yeah.

[7:16] Yeah.

[7:17] Yeah.

[7:18] Yeah.

[7:19] Yeah.

[7:20] Yeah.

[7:21] Yeah.

[7:22] Yeah.

[7:23] Yeah.

[7:24] Yeah.

[7:25] Yeah.

[7:26] Yeah.

[7:27] Yeah.

[7:28] Yeah.

[7:29] Yeah.

[7:30] Yeah.

[7:31] Yeah.

[7:32] Yeah.

[7:33] Yeah.

[7:34] Yeah.

[7:35] Yeah.

[7:36] Yeah.

[7:37] They're just about crime or something.

[7:38] They're like the first one has a drugs subplot in it too doesn't it?

[7:39] Or no?

[7:40] I think it's very small if it exists.

[7:42] It's not like the two and a half our long ..

[7:43] Like the other two are the ..

[7:44] Drunk kingpin opus that is part II.

[7:46] The other two like take a swerve into like actual like just like action movies ..

[7:50] Well it's like how in the eighties ..

[7:51] It's rather them.

[7:52] In the eighties there was this moment.

[7:53] It was the Australia Craze meeting with the drug subplots in movies craze.

[7:58] The same way that like, Three Men and a Baby is a movie that's about drugs at a certain

[8:02] point.

[8:03] Why the baby is brought to them is because of a drug kingpin.

[8:06] Like the people were in the eighties people obsessed with drugs, Australia.

[8:10] And also if you were a TV show, you were going to go to Europe, you were going to be mistaken

[8:13] for spies and you were going to get chased around.

[8:16] It doesn't matter if your family ties, if your facts of life, you're going to get mistaken

[8:19] for a spy and get chased around Europe in one special episode.

[8:22] Now just so let everybody know, Crocodile Dundee was a huge hit.

[8:27] It was an independent movie and it was a huge hit for two reasons.

[8:30] One because this character, oh, so much fun.

[8:32] What a great character to have around him too.

[8:34] That movie poster is fucking awesome.

[8:36] He's like, push it.

[8:38] He's like, uh, is it, wait, is part two the one where he's pushing the buildings, the

[8:41] twin towers aside, like their cheeks.

[8:44] I think that's the original.

[8:45] It was supposed to be like, like, like high grass in a forest, not butt cheeks, but he's

[8:51] spreading apart, I guess, to pleasure in New York.

[8:54] Okay.

[8:55] Well, it was, many people call it the original Goatsy, but, uh, he was originally called

[9:00] Crocodile Goatsy.

[9:01] Yeah.

[9:02] That was the original.

[9:03] Yeah.

[9:04] I don't know, Elliot.

[9:05] The poster doesn't have that tagline this summer.

[9:09] Croc gives the city a good rimming.

[9:11] That was the original.

[9:13] That's right.

[9:14] Yeah.

[9:15] That was the original one.

[9:16] It's occurring to me.

[9:17] The poster for this movie is a reference to that, right?

[9:19] Because he's got the two wedges of the inflatable pool croc in the same position.

[9:25] It's very much an homage to the original.

[9:27] The guys, this is, this is 80s talk.

[9:29] This is not Crocodile Dundee.

[9:30] I just had to mention, I had a breakthrough recently when I realized that they remade

[9:34] the movie, uh, if looks could kill as Spider-Man far from home.

[9:40] Yeah.

[9:41] Yeah.

[9:42] Yeah.

[9:43] And I was like, wait a minute.

[9:44] Hold on.

[9:45] I can't.

[9:46] I was just matching those movies up to up in my mind.

[9:47] Those two movies of my mind.

[9:48] And it was like, um, perfect.

[9:49] The end of usual suspects.

[9:50] I dropped my coffee mug and it shattered everywhere.

[9:51] Now when you say breakthrough, do you mean like psychological breakthrough?

[9:54] Yeah.

[9:55] Exactly.

[9:56] Yeah.

[9:57] It really helped a lot with my issues.

[9:58] Uh, so guys.

[9:59] Thank you so much.

[10:00] I just want to say, like, Paul Hogan, uh, you know, never able to replicate the success

[10:04] after the Crocodile D&D character, you know, in Hollywood.

[10:06] Not with Lightning Jack, not with, what, Almost an Angel as well?

[10:09] Flipper, he was in, he was in Almost an Angel, you know, I think he's done some stuff that

[10:13] are, like, back in Australia, smaller movies that we don't know about, but, but this movie

[10:18] is about, you know, him being a has-been, and, uh, we've given you all this background.

[10:23] According, according to Wikipedia, it says he played himself a couple years ago in a

[10:26] movie called That's Not My Dog!

[10:29] Exclamation point.

[10:30] Oh, great.

[10:31] I don't know.

[10:32] I can't believe I forgot his Oscar-nominated turn, and I can't believe the Flophouse hasn't

[10:36] covered that.

[10:37] I mean, that's, like, a perfect, uh, companion piece to A Talking Cat.

[10:41] Yeah, but I'm sure you'll get into it with the plot summary, but it's funny to me that

[10:45] we gave all this background because the movie also knows that people don't understand this

[10:49] about who Crocodile D&D is, or, or who Paul Hogan is these days, so, like, it doesn't,

[10:54] it doesn't, it doesn't animate it.

[10:57] The movie is, we'll get to it, but, but the movie is both, takes place in a world where

[11:02] Paul Hogan has been out of the spotlight for years, and also takes place in a world where

[11:06] Paul Hogan is still one of the biggest stars in the world, and everyone recognizes him

[11:10] and wants to know what he's doing.

[11:11] It's a, it's, it's very much a dream world where Paul Hogan is still famous, Chevy Chase

[11:17] is a beloved nice man that everyone loves, and, and so forth.

[11:22] Okay, so, let's start at the beginning.

[11:24] Okay, Paul Hogan, he is 80 years old, now he's 82, by the time they're making this movie

[11:28] and he was 80.

[11:29] He's tired of being confused for Crocodile D&D, which, to be honest, if you, if he wasn't

[11:33] wearing a name tag that said Paul Hogan, you would not recognize him as Crocodile D&D,

[11:37] mainly because he is 40 years older than he was when he played the role, but still, he

[11:41] looks great, in great shape.

[11:43] He's in the Hollywood Hills, being peer pressured by some tourists to stop a rattlesnake because

[11:48] they think that he's Crocodile D&D, and the snake lunges at him and he hits it with a

[11:52] stick and launch, that, uh, launches the snake towards a woman's face, and of course,

[11:56] the story is all over the news, as any story involving Paul Hogan is, is bound to be, and

[12:01] this, you know, like, this, four different entertainment outlets, I mean, I think it's

[12:05] just a symptom of the 24-hour news cycle, to be honest, I mean, in a news of the weird

[12:10] way, like, if, if Crocodile D&D, whacked a snake into someone's face, it's being presented

[12:15] as scandal in Hollywood, like, like, you imagine that this is the top story, and the second

[12:21] story is that, like, Charlie Sheen killed somebody, like, that's the level of importance

[12:24] they're giving this, this story.

[12:27] It's also, it's also set in a world where people still get their entertainment news

[12:30] from, like, Entertainment Tonight, or, like, Access Hollywood-type shows, as opposed to

[12:34] through Twitter, where you then have to, like, search for the original name of the person,

[12:37] so you can find out what story people are reacting to, with their, with their numbers.

[12:41] Why's everyone so mad at Jake Gyllenhaal this weekend?

[12:44] Something about a scarf?

[12:46] He stole a scarf?

[12:48] Uh, so, uh, it's, the story's all over the place, and this is, the movie goes through

[12:52] these cycles of Paul Hogan getting into situations where he gets himself into some kind of trouble,

[12:56] and then it gets all over the news, and he keeps saying in the movie, he's like, I just,

[12:59] I always, you know, they're like, stay out of trouble, Paul, and he's like, I just find

[13:02] myself in these situations, and it's like-

[13:04] Which he does.

[13:05] Yeah.

[13:06] Which he does.

[13:07] Uh, they recap his life story over the opening credits, I guess, about how he was the most

[13:11] famous export from Australia, people-

[13:13] Uh-huh, we see, we see, briefly see Ben Mendelsohn, which made me very happy.

[13:16] Yeah.

[13:18] So there's a number of cameos from, from, it's really funny, because throughout the

[13:21] movie, they have cameos from Australian actors who clearly were asked, like, hey, would you

[13:25] do a five-second joke about Paul Hogan, and they were like, yeah, sure, and then footage

[13:30] taken out of context of American celebrities, where it's being repurposed as if they're

[13:34] talking about Paul Hogan, which I thought was really funny, um, so, uh, he disappeared

[13:41] from the public eye after Crocodile Dunty 2, suddenly we're back in LA, and a weird

[13:45] thing about this is that the buildings, whenever we're in a skyline shot of LA, have CGI posters

[13:51] on them for fake movies, which was a strange choice, it was just very weird, um, but anyway,

[13:57] Paul's manager, who's the daughter of his original manager, isn't happy with the

[14:02] snake incident, and she's like, while they're driving on a very green-screened drive-through

[14:06] LA, she's like, hey, you gotta be on your best behavior, the queen wants to knight you

[14:10] and give you a knighthood, and he's like, oh, I don't want a knighthood, I don't

[14:13] need that, and she's like, come on, it's the queen of England, you gotta take it, and

[14:17] they drive past this kind of very crappy Crocodile Dunty impersonator, out on, uh, outside the

[14:25] theater in Hollywood, and he's, and Crocodile Dunty gives him the stink eye, he's gonna

[14:29] have to deal with that guy later, but he doesn't want the knighthood, he just wants to retire,

[14:32] because I guess when you get a knighthood, you have to work forever, like, is he worried

[14:36] that he'll have to be called up, he's gonna be called up to defend England from a dragon

[14:39] at some point?

[14:40] Well, also, that's, that's the, you put your finger on, like, the fundamental, uh, weirdness

[14:47] of this movie that I wanted to get into, where, like, yeah, at, simultaneously, no one knows

[14:53] where, who he is, and yet he is not allowed to retire, like, like, the movie makes it

[14:57] out like, you know, people are making demands on him all the time, like, this woman, like,

[15:02] this is her main client, is Paul Hogan, like, so much so that later in the movie, she quits

[15:08] when, like, he's, he's, like, unable to, like, she can't manage him anymore, and it's, like,

[15:15] what, what is going on in this movie that, like, like, he's being pursued for films?

[15:19] We'll get into it, but I, I just wanna, yeah, say how weird this, the, the, the disjoint

[15:23] is, they did not make a decision about what this movie was about.

[15:27] Yeah, uh, there, it's a, it's a very disjointed movie, um, and also, if you wanna retire,

[15:32] you usually can just do that, with not one, maybe one chance out of a hundred, someone

[15:37] decides to make a podcast about how nobody's seen you for a while, and you have to put

[15:41] out a press release saying, no, you were not kidnapped by your maid, but usually, you can

[15:44] just retire, and nobody really bothers you that much, um, that does happen to 1% of all

[15:49] famous people, yeah, which, I mean, it's, which is statistically, that's thousands of

[15:54] famous people over statistics, it's a very small percentage, yeah, uh, and there are

[15:59] a few times when they keep calling Crocodile Dundee the most successful independent film

[16:02] in history, which I don't know if that's true, I think, but, it was huge, it was, but

[16:08] like, in a world with, a return on investment, I don't know, Halloween, maybe, is also, what

[16:12] I always heard was that Halloween or Deep Throat were the most, that Deep Throat was

[16:16] the most successful in terms of budget to pay off, because it cost very little, because

[16:20] it was essentially, uh, an assault, and, and made a ton of money, but all that money went

[16:24] to the mafia, but the, but, I, but maybe, maybe they could've should've just said one

[16:28] of the most successful, I don't know, anyway, it doesn't matter, it's a movie, it doesn't,

[16:31] are they worried about getting Pinocchios from the Washington Post, I guess I shouldn't be so

[16:35] worried about it, uh, he goes to meet some studio executives who are really excited to meet him,

[16:40] and everyone on the lot recognizes him, uh, and of course, this is LA, so everyone gets very

[16:46] over the top complicated health smoothies, that are delivered by a guy with a beard and a man bun,

[16:52] and it was like, is this, is this like a stealth pilot for like an LA, Portlandia type thing,

[16:57] like we're just making, because it's a very, it's a stale joke, uh, but they take a long time to do

[17:02] it, um, and there's not that many other like LA jokes in the movie, so it's, I don't know,

[17:07] it feels like a sketch movie at times, anyway, um, it felt like, uh, maybe somebody watched like

[17:12] a few episodes from season one of Curb Your Enthusiasm, and we're like, okay, I think I

[17:16] got it, I think we could do that, I know what Los Angeles is like, yeah, these executives have an

[17:21] amazing idea, they want Will Smith to play his son in a new Crocodile Dundee movie, and Paul,

[17:28] and Paul Hogan keeps trying to tell them it doesn't make sense, because Will Smith is

[17:33] American, no, don't worry, he can do accents, you know he's about to say black each time,

[17:37] and they keep cutting him off, and then multiple black people join the meeting,

[17:42] while he's trying to say this, and the, it's one of those things where it's like,

[17:45] you have to just believe everybody in the world grew up watching Crocodile Dundee,

[17:48] because they're just so overjoyed to be in a meeting with Paul Hogan, which appears to be

[17:52] happening in the lobby of a building, they didn't even have him into a conference room or something,

[17:56] and finally he tells them, uh, that finally he says, no, he can't play my son, he's black,

[18:01] and that immediately puts a chill over the meeting, he gets in trouble, it's such like a weird,

[18:06] like, straw man, uh, cancel culture, like, attempted humor here, where they're like,

[18:12] well, this, this could happen, this is what happens, is that people are too caught up with

[18:17] this bullshit, and that he can't even say what everybody is thinking, and it's, I don't know,

[18:21] it fucking sucks, it's stupid, it sucks, and it's, it's, I couldn't believe that they like,

[18:25] they went through the scripting and development process on this movie, and nobody was like, hey,

[18:30] maybe we should take this out and put something in that makes sense, because like, there's no

[18:34] like, internal logic to the joke even, like, no, there are so many examples where a white person

[18:39] and a black person can be in the same family, and this movie like, doesn't know that, no,

[18:44] there's like, a possibility, because, well, and it also doesn't know that like,

[18:48] yeah, like, that, that is a common thing that happens, but these execs, if they were going to

[18:53] cast Will Smith, would say like, explain, like, like, know that this is an old man,

[18:59] and give him a reason why this is like, happening, or saying, the ironic thing is that,

[19:04] Dan's offending Paul Hogan here, no, no, I'm saying this, I'm not, they're taking advantage,

[19:09] I'm not, I'll go to my, I'll go to my old man rule, which is old people say offensive things,

[19:17] but it's really, you are supposed to be on, the movie wants you to be on Paul Hogan's side,

[19:22] and see how ridiculous this concept is, which is stupid, it is not a ridiculous concept,

[19:26] but also, in real life, I don't know how many of you guys have dealt with executives at major

[19:30] media companies, in real life, this is how the meeting, this is how the meeting would go,

[19:35] it would go like this, hey, we've got, we've got Crocodile Dundee, and we've got Will Smith,

[19:39] we want, he wants to play Crocodile Dundee's son, and then the studio executive would say,

[19:43] but he's black, he can't be his son, well, no, no, no, we'll say, but I don't understand it,

[19:47] you're going to have to have a couple minutes in that movie where you explain how a white guy

[19:50] could have a black son, okay, I guess we'll do that, which is, and you would write and

[19:55] shoot a scene where that is, where it's like, well, you know, ever since you adopted me,

[20:00] from the orphanage in America or something like that.

[20:03] And then you would cut that scene before you released it.

[20:05] That's how it would work.

[20:06] Studio executives are the ones who are like,

[20:08] I don't understand this.

[20:09] You've got to explain it to me.

[20:10] Not Paul Hogan.

[20:11] And the studio executives would be like,

[20:12] can we also write Paul Hogan out of this movie

[20:15] and just have Will Smith?

[20:16] Is that possible?

[20:17] Well, if Will Smith wants to make a Crocodile Dundee movie,

[20:19] that movie's getting made.

[20:20] I'm sorry, Paul Hogan.

[20:21] Exactly.

[20:22] Even if you're not gonna make it, it's still gonna be,

[20:24] it's gonna be called Son of Dundee,

[20:25] and he's gonna be like, yeah, my dad died.

[20:26] A crocodile ate him.

[20:27] Anyway, it's my adventure now.

[20:31] Now I have to get revenge.

[20:32] It's weird, though, because this movie,

[20:36] it sets you off on this tone of like,

[20:38] oh God, is this movie gonna be like this weird

[20:40] screed against cancel culture?

[20:43] And the thing is, this is the one time in the movie

[20:46] where Paul Hogan's character deliberately,

[20:52] it's not a weird misunderstanding, is what I'm saying.

[20:56] He says the thing that they're mad about,

[20:58] and that's what happens, whereas the rest of it,

[21:02] it's all weird misunderstandings.

[21:03] So it's like, what are you railing against, Paul Hogan?

[21:06] The idea of misunderstandings?

[21:09] They understand exactly what he's saying.

[21:11] Like, there's, yeah, there's, well, I mean,

[21:13] and it's a different, there's at least one time

[21:15] where it's like, well, Paul Hogan is railing against,

[21:18] railing against signage that's not clear enough, maybe?

[21:20] Like, he would've known he was in the wrong place

[21:23] if he had paid attention.

[21:24] But okay, he goes home to his dog and his son.

[21:27] His son is too busy for him.

[21:28] He seems to be running a nightclub out of his bedroom.

[21:31] And this is a long-running gag

[21:32] where his son is running multiple businesses

[21:34] and is very talented at everything

[21:36] and does not have time for Paul Hogan.

[21:38] And it never really culminates in anything.

[21:40] It's just a running gag, you know?

[21:42] It never culminates in anything,

[21:43] and yet it was one of my more favorite gags in the movie,

[21:47] just because it was done so casually and not commented on.

[21:51] Yeah, it was never underlined.

[21:53] Paul talks-

[21:54] He never turns to camera and says,

[21:55] like, I should be more involved in me son's life.

[21:58] Now, what accent do you think that was, Ben?

[22:00] I'm just, I'm just, I'm just-

[22:02] Yeah, that was kind of like Crocodile Beetle.

[22:07] Oh, it's a little hard here in Australia.

[22:08] Leprechaun goes to the outback.

[22:10] Yeah.

[22:12] They wanted Paul Hogan, and they got Paul McCartney.

[22:15] Oh.

[22:20] I'm a bit of a Crocodile Dundeely-doo.

[22:22] Anyway, so, Paul Hogan, he talks on FaceTime

[22:26] with his granddaughter, Lucy.

[22:27] She believes in him.

[22:28] She always will.

[22:29] And then we know Paul isn't racist against black people

[22:31] because he's palling around with his best buddy,

[22:33] you know it, Reginald Val Johnson,

[22:36] who I did not recognize at first

[22:38] because he didn't have a mustache.

[22:39] Yeah.

[22:40] Yeah.

[22:41] I want to-

[22:42] You probably got sick of getting all the paparazzos.

[22:44] Now-

[22:44] Cut that thing off.

[22:45] I would like nothing more than to talk

[22:47] about Reginald Val Johnson.

[22:48] So let's do it, Dan.

[22:49] Let's, oh, okay.

[22:50] Before we do, I have one question.

[22:51] It's your podcast.

[22:52] No one's stopping you from talking about RVJ.

[22:53] I have one question.

[22:54] Did you have the problem that Audrey and I had

[22:56] where we are so used to lazy signifiers in movies

[23:02] that as soon as it cut to an overhead shot

[23:04] with conga music playing,

[23:07] and I saw Reginald Val Johnson with a pork pie hat,

[23:09] I'm like, oh, did he go to Miami?

[23:11] No.

[23:13] I feel like the language of film stereotypes-

[23:15] Did they splice your footage

[23:16] from an episode of Bird Notice into this?

[23:19] We were confused.

[23:20] It did confuse me why they were suddenly

[23:22] at a street festival.

[23:23] And my guess is literally that

[23:24] they called Reginald Val Johnson's reps

[23:26] and said, would he be in this movie?

[23:28] And they said, well, he's at a street festival right now.

[23:29] So if you want to catch him, go ahead.

[23:31] Bring your camera.

[23:32] Getting some fry bread.

[23:34] You gotta come fast.

[23:36] But yeah, and they also run into Olivia Newton-John,

[23:40] who's another old pal of Paul.

[23:41] It makes sense.

[23:42] They're both Australian, right?

[23:43] And she wants to set Paul up with a friend of hers,

[23:46] but first she convinces him to come be at a charity event

[23:49] that she set up for kids at an orphanage or something.

[23:52] And Paul, he goes to get some groceries,

[23:55] but then his car is stolen by a fake valet.

[23:57] He gives his car, his keys to a guy dressed as a valet.

[24:00] Turns out that's just a car thief.

[24:01] Uh-oh, don't worry.

[24:02] We've all been there.

[24:03] That guy'll come back, yep.

[24:05] And Paul, he sees the fake Crocodile Dundee

[24:07] from the Lyft car, I guess he's in.

[24:09] And he says, hey, stop here.

[24:11] The Crocodile Dundee impersonator does not recognize him.

[24:13] And he gave into an argument.

[24:15] And then the impersonator's kids

[24:16] who are dressed as crocodiles jump out

[24:19] and they're little kids.

[24:20] They start attacking Paul Hogan

[24:21] and people assume that he's fighting children.

[24:23] Suddenly he's all over the news again

[24:25] for strangling a child.

[24:27] I do wanna, I wanna highlight one moment

[24:29] because I feel weirdly compelled to highlight it

[24:33] when I do think something works briefly.

[24:34] Go for it, yeah, give them the credit.

[24:36] I did laugh when the impersonator

[24:39] has a big cardboard knife and he goes,

[24:42] my knife's bigger than that.

[24:43] And Paul Hogan's looking on in disbelief

[24:46] as the one thing everyone remembers

[24:48] from Crocodile Dundee is Butchard.

[24:49] There's a couple of times,

[24:50] I mean, there are a couple of jokes in the movie.

[24:51] There's a joke later that I laughed at

[24:53] and there's a musical number later

[24:54] that was better than it had any right to be.

[24:56] Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

[24:58] So he's all over the news again.

[24:59] His manager's upset.

[25:00] She's like, you gotta get this knighthood.

[25:02] You're gonna jeopardize your knighthood.

[25:05] Because you imagine, yeah,

[25:06] QE2 is just constantly watching entertainment news

[25:09] being like, hmm, ah.

[25:11] How could she miss it?

[25:12] There is wall-to-wall Paul Hogan coverage.

[25:15] Yeah, that's true, that's fair, that's fair.

[25:18] We briefly meet maybe the movie's least okay character,

[25:24] his Mexican landscaper,

[25:26] who just has a super over-the-top accent

[25:29] and is just stealing food from Paul Hogan's kitchen

[25:32] and eating a big Dagwood sandwich.

[25:34] And this is a character

[25:35] you could easily remove wholesale from the movie

[25:38] and you would never notice.

[25:40] But instead, they had to keep him in and it's not good.

[25:43] Lucy calls and she's like,

[25:45] I heard you were gonna be a knight.

[25:46] Is that true?

[25:48] And he's like, I'm so proud.

[25:48] And he's like, okay, you know what?

[25:50] If you want me to be knighted,

[25:51] I guess I'll go through with it.

[25:52] I guess I'll accept one of the highest honors

[25:56] that the Commonwealth can provide.

[25:59] I mean, I can watch a movie with a reluctant hero.

[26:03] Like, I've watched plenty of those.

[26:04] But there's something very interesting

[26:06] about a movie that's trying to convince me

[26:09] that not only that Paul Hogan is somebody

[26:11] that I should be paying attention to,

[26:13] but he's this reluctant hero.

[26:14] And so I'm like, I didn't care about him

[26:17] before the movie started.

[26:20] Like, Audrey kept having this problem,

[26:21] which is like, are we supposed to sympathize

[26:23] with him against his manager

[26:26] who's trying to get him to do this charity function?

[26:28] Like, I don't understand.

[26:30] The Queen of England is like,

[26:32] I wanna give you a knighthood.

[26:33] And he's like, eh, I don't know.

[26:35] And we're supposed to be like,

[26:36] yeah, stop bothering this old man.

[26:39] I mean, unless you're taking a principled stand

[26:41] against the royalty.

[26:45] Leave Paul Hogan alone, the institution of monarchy.

[26:48] And there are people who do that.

[26:49] I think John Cleese is on record as saying

[26:53] that if he was offered a knighthood,

[26:54] he would turn it down and that kind of stuff.

[26:56] Whereas Michael Palin, he ate it up.

[26:58] He just took it well-deserved.

[27:00] Good job, Michael Palin.

[27:03] Good job, Mikey.

[27:03] Well, good job, Mikey P.

[27:05] And now he doesn't wanna be a knight.

[27:08] Uh-oh, unfortunately, a knight is coming his way.

[27:11] That's right, his good friend Wayne Knight,

[27:12] Newman from Seinfeld.

[27:15] Talking about things that can be lifted wholesale

[27:17] from this movie.

[27:18] So Wayne Knight is like, my wife's mad at me

[27:20] because I've been singing too loud at home

[27:22] practicing for my Broadway premiere.

[27:25] And apparently the song he's singing

[27:26] in his Broadway show is,

[27:27] hello, my baby, hello, my honey,

[27:28] the Michigan J. Frog song.

[27:30] And so he's like, I need a place to stay

[27:33] because my wife's mad at me.

[27:33] Don't tell her I'm here.

[27:35] And he just runs upstairs and starts singing,

[27:37] hello, my baby, hello, my honey,

[27:39] while tap dancing as loud as possible,

[27:41] which makes it really hard for Paul Hogan to take a nap.

[27:44] And I gotta tell you,

[27:45] there are ways to do a joke

[27:47] where someone can't take a nap because it's loud.

[27:49] Go watch the movie, it's a gift.

[27:50] There's a whole sequence where W.C. Fields

[27:52] is trying to take a nap and people keep bothering him.

[27:53] It's hilarious.

[27:54] This is not, they don't really pull it off here.

[27:57] I don't know, the idea of Wayne Knight tap dancing

[28:00] to hello, my baby is pretty funny.

[28:04] The one thing I liked about this was

[28:06] there's a shot overhead on his couch

[28:09] when he first lies down

[28:10] and there's one pillow on the couch

[28:12] and then two more down on the floor.

[28:13] And I was like, what's gonna happen

[28:14] with those pillows down on the floor?

[28:16] And then Wayne Knight is suddenly tap dancing upstairs.

[28:19] And I was like, perfect, he can make a head sandwich

[28:21] with those extra pillows.

[28:23] And did he?

[28:24] Yeah, it was a plant and payoff.

[28:26] Classic movie magic.

[28:28] That's the thing, Paul Hogan is like Jacques to tea.

[28:31] It's all, all the math is right there on screen

[28:33] and you're watching him put it together.

[28:35] And it's, and that's where the fun comes.

[28:36] You know, he's a Paul.

[28:39] He's got-

[28:40] The Swiss watch.

[28:42] Yeah, this movie is a real intricate mechanism.

[28:45] So many interlocking gears

[28:46] that have to be calibrated just so.

[28:49] So it's that night.

[28:51] Paul's gotta go to the charity event

[28:52] that Olivia Newton-John talked him into.

[28:54] He has his driver who turns out to,

[28:56] because I guess his car is still stolen.

[28:57] His driver turns out to be John Cleese,

[28:59] who explains he is now doing this

[29:01] because he lost all his money to prostitutes, he says.

[29:05] John Cleese drives him to a big event.

[29:07] There's spotlights everywhere.

[29:09] There's a red carpet.

[29:10] And uh-oh, too late, he notices.

[29:12] He's taken Paul Hogan to the Black Talent Awards.

[29:14] And Paul Hogan on the red carpet explains to reporters

[29:17] he's there to help all the less fortunate people

[29:19] who are inside, who didn't have it as easy as himself.

[29:22] And he offends the reporters

[29:23] because it sounds like he's saying

[29:24] black people are less fortunate than himself.

[29:26] It is yet another time that Paul Hogan has decided

[29:28] to step his crocodile skin boot

[29:31] into the racial minefield that is modern America.

[29:35] And it doesn't work very well.

[29:38] It's just not, it's not very good.

[29:40] It's all, it's all, that's the thing.

[29:45] It's all context.

[29:46] That's the thing.

[29:47] That's what he's trying to explain

[29:48] is that people have to understand there's context

[29:50] and that when he is sitting at home

[29:52] in his massive LA mansion eating sandwiches,

[29:58] that we should be more considerate.

[30:00] that he just wants to take a nap.

[30:01] Now, here's the question I have for you guys.

[30:04] I mean, he's basically Dagwood Bumstead.

[30:06] He's taking a nap.

[30:07] He wants to make big sandwiches.

[30:09] He keeps running into the mailman.

[30:10] He works for Mr., for whatever the guy's name is.

[30:13] Dan, what's Dagwood's boss's name?

[30:14] Weatherby?

[30:15] No, no, that's Archie.

[30:16] No, that's Principal Weatherby from the Archie comics, yeah.

[30:18] Yeah, who am I thinking of?

[30:20] I'll get it.

[30:20] Let me look up Dagwood Boss.

[30:23] Mr. Spacely?

[30:24] Mr. Dithers, that's who it is.

[30:26] Dithers, yeah.

[30:27] Mr. Julius Caesar Dithers.

[30:29] I didn't know that was his first and middle name.

[30:32] And he's got a fucking dime for a wife, man.

[30:34] What the fuck?

[30:36] This reminds me, recently, Audrey made a reference

[30:40] to a Dagwood sandwich, or like Dagwood eating big sandwiches,

[30:42] and she said, it's the one thing people remember

[30:45] about Blondie, name another thing about Blondie.

[30:47] And I was dismayed at how many things

[30:50] I could name about Blondie.

[30:52] I mean, to be fair, though, that is,

[30:54] to asking you a question about an old-timey comic strip

[30:57] is, you're gonna get, I mean,

[30:58] you know that Blondie started as like a,

[31:00] she started as a flapper.

[31:01] She was, yeah, she was a flapper society girl,

[31:04] and he was a-

[31:05] And he was rich, and he married her and got cut off,

[31:07] and then it became the story of him eating sandwiches

[31:09] and not having sex with his gorgeous wife

[31:12] much of the time. Getting interrupted

[31:13] also from naps by the annoying kid next door

[31:16] who would just walk in.

[31:18] And he didn't ever want to work, right?

[31:20] He wanted to always nap and not work.

[31:22] Yeah, I mean, he would go to work,

[31:24] and he was always late for work,

[31:25] and he'd run out and bump into the mailman.

[31:26] These are the kinds of-

[31:27] He's like styling his fucking hair like that crazy shit.

[31:30] Yeah, and he had a teenage son and teenage daughter

[31:33] who looked just like smaller versions of them.

[31:35] Yeah, just like in real life.

[31:37] That's how genetics works.

[31:39] So that's why when you,

[31:41] that's why, as Dan once said, I think in a presentation,

[31:43] how when a pig and a frog have children,

[31:46] you get two girl frogs and two boy,

[31:48] two girl pigs and two boy frogs.

[31:50] That's how it works.

[31:52] Yeah.

[31:53] That's what Mendel said.

[31:53] Anyway, Paul Hogan finally ends up

[31:56] at the right charity event,

[31:57] and everything works out fine, right?

[31:59] Uh-uh.

[32:01] Not right.

[32:01] No.

[32:02] No, John Travolta's not there.

[32:04] So Olivia Newton, or he's always referred to as Johnny

[32:06] for some reason.

[32:07] Johnny T.

[32:09] It seemed like they couldn't say his,

[32:11] like there seemed to be like a licensing issue

[32:13] in this scene.

[32:14] It was very confusing.

[32:16] I have a problem with the stagecraft of this.

[32:19] Now, I'm going to take the stage manager to task here

[32:22] because, so, you know, Paul Hogan goes out.

[32:25] Well, like, you know, Olivia Newton, John,

[32:28] Paul Hogan are in the back.

[32:29] You know, Olivia's trying to get Paul to go out

[32:32] at his cue to start singing.

[32:34] You're the one that I want.

[32:35] Well, he's filling in for John Travolta.

[32:36] He's filling in for John Travolta.

[32:37] She was going to do a duet with Johnny T.

[32:39] And he's not there.

[32:40] So Paul Hogan's going to fill in.

[32:41] Yeah.

[32:42] And he has, he doesn't really want to do it.

[32:44] He's like lingering.

[32:45] He's lingering in the back.

[32:46] He finally comes out.

[32:47] Luckily, they have a leather jacket

[32:47] that fits him perfectly.

[32:49] He comes out and he starts singing at Sandy's part.

[32:52] He's missed his own cue.

[32:53] He starts singing at Sandy's part.

[32:55] I don't know why Olivia Newton, John

[32:56] doesn't come out at that moment.

[32:58] More so, I don't know why the stage manager,

[33:01] once the audience starts turning on him

[33:03] for not being John Travolta,

[33:05] keeps holding Olivia Newton, John back

[33:07] from going on stage.

[33:09] The one thing that could possibly assuage this crowd.

[33:11] Yeah, I'll do you one better, Dan.

[33:12] This is their beloved star of Greece.

[33:14] I'll do you one better.

[33:15] I don't know why it wasn't announced to the crowd.

[33:17] We're so sorry.

[33:18] John Travolta couldn't make it tonight.

[33:19] Exactly.

[33:20] Filling in for him is Paul Hogan.

[33:21] So that's the shock.

[33:22] He was on a little slip of paper in their program

[33:23] that just, people don't read that.

[33:25] Literally at every single play

[33:27] that there has ever been in the history of the world.

[33:29] I mean, that's not,

[33:30] I guess when Thespis invented acting for the first time.

[33:32] Maybe they didn't have a slip that said,

[33:34] Thespis is gonna be,

[33:35] tonight Thespis is sick,

[33:36] so he's being played by Draspis or something.

[33:39] But anyway,

[33:40] but they don't,

[33:43] so instead, these people who are there,

[33:45] literally to see Johnny T,

[33:46] they have signs of his name.

[33:48] They've dressed like him.

[33:49] They're shouting, yeah, Johnny, Johnny T,

[33:50] give us our Johnny.

[33:52] That to be confronted instead

[33:54] with this elderly Australian man in a leather jacket

[33:57] mumbling the wrong words to the song,

[34:00] I understand that would be a shock to the system.

[34:02] That's not what you're saying.

[34:03] If I was, so.

[34:03] But would you riot, Elliot?

[34:04] Would you start a riot over that?

[34:07] Let me, let's create a thought idea.

[34:09] Okay, so recently,

[34:12] Stuart and I,

[34:13] we were gonna go see Judas Priest in concert.

[34:14] Unfortunately, their shows were rescheduled

[34:16] because of a health problem with one of the band members.

[34:19] But if Stuart and I had gone to that concert

[34:22] and I cannot wait.

[34:23] Rob Halford, the metal god himself,

[34:25] is about to walk out on stage

[34:26] and I hear the opening of Exciter,

[34:29] one of my favorite of their songs.

[34:30] This is a great way to start the show,

[34:32] full of energy, just like in the Unleashed in the East album.

[34:34] Rob Halford's about to come out.

[34:35] I could not be more excited.

[34:37] And Paul Hogan comes out, also in leather,

[34:39] and starts mumbling Exciter.

[34:40] The wrong elderly man comes out in leather.

[34:42] The wrong elderly man.

[34:43] At least, a man roughly 10 years older than Rob Halford,

[34:47] who is only in his early 70s,

[34:49] that I think I might just lose it

[34:52] and start throwing things at the stage,

[34:53] much like these people did.

[34:54] And I'd be holding Elliot back like the stage manager.

[34:57] And Olivia Newton-John would be back there

[34:59] waiting for her duet on The Ripper,

[35:00] and they're saying,

[35:01] no, no, no, stay back here, stay back here.

[35:03] Yeah, yeah.

[35:05] It's getting really dangerous out there.

[35:06] Yeah.

[35:07] The crowd throws a thermos at him

[35:09] and he tosses it aside.

[35:11] It bounces off a balloon and knocks a nun in the face.

[35:13] And he gets the blame for that,

[35:15] which seems, admittedly, a little unfair.

[35:17] Everyone saw it.

[35:18] Everyone saw it.

[35:19] Yeah.

[35:19] I mean, he wasn't throwing it at her

[35:21] and the thermos was thrown at him first.

[35:23] Anyway, you better believe it's all over the news

[35:25] that he threw a nun in the face of the thermos.

[35:26] They're just looking for a reason

[35:27] to cancel him at this point.

[35:28] Yeah.

[35:29] And no wonder, news all over him,

[35:30] no wonder there's a paparazzo hiding around his house

[35:33] and up in his tree, he throws a rock and knocks him down.

[35:36] Turns out he's kind of a down-on-his-luck photographer

[35:38] who came to L.A. with big dreams

[35:40] and now just hangs around Paul Hogan's house.

[35:44] There's a later, look, far be it for me to quibble

[35:47] with the internal logic of the talented Mr. Dundee.

[35:50] Of the very excellent Mr. Dundee.

[35:51] The very excellent Mr. Dundee,

[35:52] the talented Mr. Ripley Dundee, but later-

[35:55] The talented Mr. Dundee has the scene

[35:56] where Paul Hogan watches Jude Law get out of the shower

[35:59] and Jude Law knows Paul Hogan is watching him

[36:02] and he's not sexually attracted to Paul Hogan,

[36:03] but he does get a thrill

[36:04] from knowing Paul Hogan is sexually attracted to him.

[36:06] Yeah.

[36:07] Yeah.

[36:08] What a movie.

[36:09] What a good movie.

[36:10] Yeah.

[36:11] There's a scene later on, I'm sure we'll mention it,

[36:13] but I just went like where the gag is

[36:16] every photo becomes less valuable once Paul Hogan is in it.

[36:20] Like, Paul Hogan's like,

[36:21] oh, I could get you a picture of Kim Kardashian.

[36:23] What about a picture of Kim Kardashian and me?

[36:25] And like the price goes down

[36:27] and the photographer is saying this.

[36:30] Like, why is the photographer then hanging around

[36:32] Paul Hogan's house if he knows

[36:34] that this man is worthless to him?

[36:36] I'm like, why is the photographer saying this?

[36:40] I'm like, I know this is a logical hurdle

[36:45] that is too high for this particular movie to clear, but-

[36:48] Why didn't Darth Vader blow up Leia's ship

[36:50] instead of trying to walk his way through it

[36:52] to where the Death Star planes are?

[36:54] Just believe.

[36:55] It's called drama, Dan.

[36:56] It's called drama.

[36:57] But it's also, it's very clear

[36:59] he's not good at being a paparazzi.

[37:01] Like he's bad at it.

[37:02] So, but you're right.

[37:03] It doesn't make sense.

[37:04] He watches on the news-

[37:05] But he is good at being a fine art photographer,

[37:07] but he just doesn't know it yet.

[37:08] Yeah.

[37:10] We'll see that, we'll see that.

[37:10] He's gonna miss his-

[37:11] He's one of these guys who becomes an accidental art star.

[37:14] He's also one of these guys that I thought

[37:15] I could safely ignore when he shows up in the movie

[37:19] because I'm like, oh, this movie's so filled

[37:21] with pointless diversions and cameos and whatnot.

[37:25] Surely he will not be important to the rest of the movie.

[37:27] And he becomes very important later on.

[37:30] Yeah, he becomes a major character.

[37:32] And he looks like a friend of mine.

[37:33] So I kept thinking that he was the friend that-

[37:36] I was like, he's in the movie, this is great for him.

[37:38] Oh, I kept thinking he was Nick Schwartzon.

[37:40] I thought so, too.

[37:41] But he's not.

[37:42] I went and checked IMDb.

[37:44] Does look like him, too.

[37:46] Paul Hogan watches other Australian actors slag him on TV.

[37:49] There is a funny joke about the movie Lightning Jack,

[37:51] I thought, where he goes,

[37:52] he goes, someone's like, much like Lightning Jack,

[37:56] no one is laughing.

[37:57] Which I thought was funny,

[37:58] because it's not a good movie.

[38:00] And Paul-

[38:00] And there's like a, there's a brief,

[38:02] they're interviewing people and they briefly interview

[38:04] the like villain from the later Saw movies.

[38:07] And I'm like, he's Australian?

[38:08] What's going on there?

[38:10] I was pretty, that was cool for me.

[38:11] And yet Geoffrey Rush, nowhere to be found.

[38:14] Amazing.

[38:15] Yeah.

[38:16] Casanova Frankenstein himself.

[38:18] Himself, very Australian, not there.

[38:21] So Paul, he misses Australia.

[38:23] He's looking at real estate in Australia,

[38:25] beachfront real estate.

[38:25] And he keeps getting bought out from under him.

[38:27] Which at this point, it's like, you seem to be rich, Paul.

[38:29] You should just take the, take the plunge.

[38:31] Just make an offer on one of these houses.

[38:33] You know, stop waiting.

[38:34] His son is leading an aerobics class outside.

[38:36] He's too busy to have breakfast with Paul.

[38:38] And Paul's manager calls him in for a talking to.

[38:40] She's been trying to stop the nun story.

[38:42] And Paul keeps saying, put me on one of these

[38:44] tonight shows.

[38:45] I need to be on one of these tonight shows.

[38:47] And she's saying, no, no.

[38:48] He somehow wants to retire,

[38:49] but also really wants to be on the tonight show.

[38:51] He's like, I could play a baby,

[38:53] a baby xylophone for some kind of song.

[38:56] I could do that.

[38:57] You know, I could, I could slow jam something.

[39:01] But my, Paul Hogan sounds like a very bad

[39:05] Reese Darby, I realize, from a different country,

[39:08] not Australian.

[39:09] And she says, you know what?

[39:11] I won't call the queen and tell her not to knight you

[39:14] if you go for an intervention lunch with Chevy Chase,

[39:18] which makes no sense.

[39:19] If you want someone to learn how to stop

[39:21] being an asshole in public,

[39:22] you do not send them to Chevy Chase.

[39:24] I mean, that is the joke of it, right?

[39:26] But it's a very weird one.

[39:28] Like it requires the audience to be aware.

[39:32] And you know, like we all are obviously,

[39:34] because we're like the kind of nerds who know this stuff,

[39:36] but like not everyone knows that Chevy Chase

[39:38] is like a famous asshole.

[39:40] So they aren't going to get the meta joke of like,

[39:42] this is the person to emulate.

[39:44] And so it just seems strange.

[39:46] It seems-

[39:47] Well, and like as a movie that has given us

[39:48] all of the backstory on Paul Hogan for this exact reason,

[39:52] like it seems like it could have given us

[39:54] an expo dump on Chevy Chase

[39:56] if it really wanted to sell that as a joke.

[39:58] And since it didn't,

[39:59] I feel like it almost-

[40:00] Is this not aware of that as a joke?

[40:02] I mean, because then Chevy Chase, they go to lunch and people are constantly going up

[40:07] to Chevy Chase and telling them how wonderful he is and telling him, you're so amazing.

[40:12] I love you so much.

[40:13] I love your movies.

[40:14] And they're not naming.

[40:15] They're like, I loved you in Three Amigos.

[40:16] They're like, oh, he was so great in Caddyshack.

[40:19] Like they are talking his real credits.

[40:21] So this is not some alternate universe Chevy Chase who made other things and that who people

[40:25] like.

[40:26] And he keeps he's like, and Chevy Chase is like, people love me because I won an Oscar

[40:30] for Caddyshack.

[40:31] And this is not true.

[40:32] And the movie knows it's not true, but it's never clear whether the movie is saying it

[40:36] as a joke or whether people think that in this world.

[40:39] Or it's that it's it's one of these things that's almost a joke, but not quite to the

[40:43] point where I was like, is this operating on a higher level than I understand in terms

[40:47] of comedy that I don't get the joke here?

[40:49] Yeah, yeah.

[40:50] I think it's just he's lying about having an Oscar.

[40:52] Everyone seems to know it already.

[40:55] It's just anyway, the studio executives come by.

[40:58] They want to pitch a Crocodile Dundee revenge movie where his wife gets killed and he starts

[41:02] dating Rachel McAdams.

[41:04] And that scene just kind of peters out.

[41:06] It doesn't really go anywhere.

[41:07] I mean, most of the scenes in this movie end without a joke or a conclusion.

[41:11] Yeah, that's true.

[41:13] Wait, this was the scene where it ends when he walks out without paying for a forty dollar

[41:18] glass of wine and a security guy tackles.

[41:20] Yes.

[41:21] Chevy Chase says he's going to pay, I think, and then he doesn't.

[41:24] Yeah.

[41:25] Yeah.

[41:26] And Chevy Chase does a thing where he's like, you can get away with anything when you're

[41:29] as beloved as I am.

[41:30] Watch this.

[41:31] And he knocks his fork on the ground and a waiter picks up, goes, oh, I'm so sorry.

[41:34] And Chevy Chase is like, oh, yes, it fell right off the table.

[41:36] Can you give me another fork?

[41:37] And he's like, let's see.

[41:38] And I'm like, so that's what you're getting away with that every now and then you knock

[41:43] a piece of silverware onto the floor.

[41:45] It was a play.

[41:46] He broke a plate.

[41:47] Yeah, but you can still get away with that.

[41:49] I know.

[41:51] I just like it is a measure of difference that you've like actually shattered.

[41:55] Yeah.

[41:56] Did he break a plate?

[41:57] Yeah.

[41:58] Yeah.

[41:59] Because if a fork shatters, you got bigger problems.

[42:00] I mean, unless a fork makes a shattering noise when it hits the ground.

[42:01] You're like, miss or freeze.

[42:02] You must be nervous.

[42:03] I miss the shattering noise.

[42:04] I apologize.

[42:05] I mean, maybe if there had been a shot, but I guess in the budget, they didn't have room

[42:08] for a plate to be broken.

[42:10] Yeah.

[42:11] I think critically, the breaking of a plate is sort of morally comparable to hitting a

[42:16] nun in the head with a water bottle or making racially insensitive remarks on a red carpet.

[42:21] Probably.

[42:22] Yeah.

[42:23] It depends on the plate.

[42:24] I mean, we're the only restaurant in L.A. that only serves antique Ming Dynasty ceramics.

[42:27] Jackie Chan is our waiter to protect you because if anyone's going to break in, it's like something

[42:34] from us.

[42:35] If only you had an Oscar, Paul Hogan, none of the bad things that are happening to you

[42:39] would have happened.

[42:40] Yeah.

[42:41] Dan, I know you have issues with this, but I want you to know Jackie Chan was not in

[42:43] this movie.

[42:44] Sometimes you can't tell.

[42:48] There were many celebrities in this movie, but he was not but Mr. Jackson Chan was not

[42:52] one of them.

[42:53] OK.

[42:54] So after he gets tackled by the security guard, he wakes up in the hospital with multiple

[42:57] shattered bones, right?

[42:59] Yeah.

[43:00] No, he's just he's just back at home talking to his daughter, his granddaughter on the

[43:05] phone.

[43:06] What's that?

[43:07] A turkey Marmite sandwich?

[43:08] Let's see.

[43:09] Or a Vegemite Marmite sandwich.

[43:11] Yeah.

[43:12] Yeah.

[43:13] He's he's she's like, oh, I have this new school and the girls there aren't so nice

[43:16] to me.

[43:17] What do you do?

[43:18] And he's like, oh, blah, blah.

[43:19] He's giving her advice and she's still excited about his knighthood.

[43:21] He's got to get this knighthood.

[43:22] His granddaughter is depending on it now.

[43:24] He could always just tell his granddaughter he got knighted.

[43:26] There's no I mean, there's what is she going to Google him?

[43:29] And there's going to be a newspaper headline that says L.A.

[43:31] Caley and I would lie.

[43:34] Yeah.

[43:35] Yeah.

[43:36] Children.

[43:37] Yeah.

[43:38] She won't find out for real until she's much older and it sends her on some kind of shame

[43:41] spy.

[43:43] Dan, Dan, I've spent years now on an elaborate con that makes my son think that there is

[43:47] a pixie of some kind that eats his teeth and leaves money behind.

[43:51] So I gained nothing from this lie that there's some creature that sneaks into our house,

[43:57] devours his teeth, hoops a dollar bill under his pillow without waking him.

[44:01] And then it leaves for the next time.

[44:03] You know what?

[44:04] Directly after I said it, I was like, oh, all people do is lie to kids.

[44:08] So much.

[44:09] I'm lying to your children.

[44:10] Yeah.

[44:11] So I think Dan may have a child.

[44:12] And of course, when that child is of age, they're going to watch Romancing the Stone

[44:16] and then he will lie to that child and say there was never a sequel.

[44:19] For some reason, they may know.

[44:24] They did reteam in War of the Roses, which you can see when you're older.

[44:29] But you have nothing for this one.

[44:33] But what's this jewel of that?

[44:34] No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[44:37] It's one of those fake movie posters.

[44:39] Yeah.

[44:40] Yeah.

[44:41] Here's a great 80s pop song that's not from that movie that does not exist.

[44:49] So then this is the scene where he talks to that photographer.

[44:51] He learns how how little his pictures are worth.

[44:54] And the pop, the photographers convinces Paul Hogan to help him find celebrities who's going

[44:58] to drive them around.

[44:59] It's John Cleese.

[45:00] And for no reason at all, he gets them into a chase with the police.

[45:03] And it's John Cleese is just he's just a maniac who constantly gets into chase scenes and

[45:09] then runs away at the at the end.

[45:11] I love I love Paul Hogan's commitment to just being unflappable throughout the entire like

[45:17] chase.

[45:18] It's just like, oh, my God, another shenanigan.

[45:20] I'm in.

[45:21] And the photographer in the back of the car is trying to make up for it.

[45:23] He's like, what?

[45:24] Yeah, I felt so bad for this.

[45:29] You're like, I'm in a movie and I'm going to be in a scene with John Cleese and Paul

[45:33] Hogan.

[45:34] And I'm I'm like, they're the straight men.

[45:36] What?

[45:38] It was it was uncredited.

[45:39] But the second unit director for this scene was William Friedkin, if you go.

[45:42] Wow.

[45:43] Really?

[45:44] No wonder.

[45:45] Really?

[45:46] I mean, to be there were a number of there are a number of shots that were clearly cars

[45:47] driving at normal speed that had been sped up, but there were other ones.

[45:51] But there's also a shot of a car driving against the flow of traffic.

[45:54] And I was like, did they do this for this movie or is this like stock footage you can

[45:58] buy that they that they got?

[46:00] Because I wasn't I wasn't sure.

[46:01] But yeah, now that I know that William Friedkin worked on it, that makes a lot of sense.

[46:05] He had all the hallmarks of his big car chase movies like the boys in the band and and bug.

[46:15] So they they the photographer, they're like, there's Kim Kardashian.

[46:18] There's another famous person.

[46:20] And the photographer keeps taking pictures.

[46:21] They're all coming out blurry because they're driving around.

[46:23] The other funny thing is that they're pointing to like movie premieres where they're full

[46:27] of photographers.

[46:28] Yeah, that's what I was like.

[46:29] Why did you just go there in the first place?

[46:31] I don't understand.

[46:32] The point of being a paparazzi photographer is to get the picture nobody else has of this

[46:35] celebrity where they're in their sweatpants, they're Glenn Danzig carrying a box of kitty

[46:40] litter in a parking lot.

[46:41] They're eating ice cream and they look really gross, like they look fatter than normal.

[46:45] That's why you're a paparazzi to get a picture of them on the red carpet when there's like

[46:48] a dozen other photographers.

[46:50] Why bother?

[46:51] I mean, no, they want they want you struggling to carry a mountain of Dunkin Dunkin Donuts

[46:55] coffee.

[46:56] Yeah.

[46:57] There's a reason that Peter Parker is selling his cut out of a former lover.

[47:02] God, there's a there's a reason Peter Parker is selling his Spider-Man pictures and not

[47:08] his photographs of like trees.

[47:09] Nobody wants those.

[47:10] Anyone can take them.

[47:11] Yeah.

[47:12] OK, so they end up getting arrested.

[47:16] And then we cut to what turns out to be a dream sequence, but it is a very elaborately

[47:20] produced musical number from some sort of Crocodile Dundee musical of a that's not a

[47:24] knife song.

[47:25] And this is by far the highlight of the movie.

[47:27] I'll go on about this.

[47:28] This is actually a pretty fun song.

[47:30] The performers are really good in it.

[47:31] There's some funny rhymes in it.

[47:33] This is a this song should be in a much better movie about Paul Hogan.

[47:36] So, yeah, the decision to have the Crocodile Dundee character in the musical to be very

[47:42] much not Australian was great.

[47:43] Yes.

[47:44] Yes.

[47:45] Such a strange choice.

[47:46] He's like a guy with curly hair and like eyeliner and like a sparkly hat.

[47:50] Because it's Broadway.

[47:51] I mean, to be honest, he looks like he kept reminding me of Jello Biafra.

[47:54] I was like, did they get him for this?

[47:58] That would be a really weird choice for him.

[48:00] But he's in bathtubs over Broadway, so I don't know.

[48:03] But it's this is I mean, guys, tell me if I'm wrong.

[48:06] But once this started, I was like, OK, you know what?

[48:08] There is a part of this movie I can enjoy, you know, there there are parts of the movie

[48:13] that gave me a mild smile.

[48:15] But I think, again, in a YouTube two minute video, maybe what I liked about this musical

[48:22] is that it's it knows how to fucking tease the audience because they give you the first

[48:27] part of the line.

[48:29] That's not knife.

[48:30] And that's and then they just tease out the final line and they don't actually even say

[48:34] this is a knife.

[48:35] They have a knife descend from the ceiling with the word written on it.

[48:41] It's crazy.

[48:42] Yeah.

[48:43] They're waiting for it.

[48:44] It's like they're edging you the whole time for this catchphrase.

[48:46] I don't know if you guys experienced this, but like watching this movie, I remembered

[48:50] the line is that's not a knife.

[48:52] This is a knife.

[48:53] And they show the clip in the in the reel at the beginning, recapping the important

[48:57] beats of Hogan's life.

[48:59] And it's that's not a knife.

[49:01] That's a knife.

[49:02] And so the line in the song is that's a knife.

[49:04] But the the sign on the knife that comes down says this is a knife.

[49:08] And I was like, oh, yeah, I'm bringing up like we've got to cover all our bases.

[49:13] Yeah.

[49:14] It's like it's like how you remember it and how it actually was accommodated in one song.

[49:19] Wow.

[49:20] That's the brilliance of that song.

[49:21] That's amazing.

[49:23] Yeah.

[49:24] That's true.

[49:25] Yeah.

[49:26] Yeah.

[49:27] It's a real it's a real play it again, Sam type thing where it's like, did you know he

[49:29] never said that in Crocodile Dundee, except I've never heard anyone deliver that trivia

[49:32] because no one cared, I guess the I will say there's one other joke.

[49:38] I don't remember where it comes, but somewhere in the movie, there's another joke where an

[49:41] Australian actress who I did not recognize who she was is talking about she's like, oh,

[49:44] I used to love watching his movies and I'd get so scared when he would be playing.

[49:48] He'll be fighting with those crocodiles and sharks.

[49:51] And, you know, you got to feel for his children and they're like, oh, no, you're thinking

[49:54] of the crocodile hunter.

[49:55] We're talking about Paul Hogan.

[49:56] And she goes, oh, he's a dickhead.

[49:57] And just the way she said he's a.

[50:00] I thought it was really funny, it was just like so matter-of-factly like, well that goes

[50:03] without saying.

[50:04] Oh, we all know that, yeah.

[50:07] Anyway, so Paul wakes up in prison, he dreams the whole musical number, his manager bails

[50:11] him out, I guess he will face charges at a later date, although knowing LA, maybe never.

[50:16] Celebrities, you know how it is.

[50:18] So back to his house and back to the Wayne Knight sea story in the sitcom of a movie,

[50:25] Wayne Knight is like, my wife is coming over, don't tell her I'm here.

[50:29] And she comes to the door and Paul Hogan is lying, oh, I haven't seen him, I don't know,

[50:33] he's not here.

[50:34] And she's like, are you sure?

[50:36] I wanted to thank you for having him here, I know he can be a handful.

[50:38] And then Wayne Knight just shows up and goes, hey honey, and they kiss, they're not mad

[50:42] at each other at all.

[50:43] And she's like, how dare you lie to me, Paul?

[50:46] And the scene, it makes no sense.

[50:50] It is like the level of trolling that our editor Alex did to me the first time I met

[50:55] his parents is we were having dinner together and he goes, hey, mom and dad, Stuart would

[50:59] like to say grace.

[51:00] And I was like, what the fuck are you doing?

[51:06] One can only assume that this whole ruse has been some sort of elaborate sex game they

[51:10] have where they shame Paul Hogan.

[51:13] They have a Paul Hogan embarrassment fetish.

[51:18] Yeah.

[51:19] Yeah.

[51:20] They steal the chocolate chip cookies and go back and do unspeakable things with them.

[51:24] Yeah.

[51:25] Paul, he loses his knighthood for obvious reasons.

[51:27] I mean, getting in a car chase with John Cleese is just not okay.

[51:30] His manager quits.

[51:32] She says, I think maybe I'll go, I'll go back and do what I want.

[51:35] Something for children.

[51:36] What that is, is left up to the future.

[51:37] We'll find out later.

[51:38] Two weeks later, he's packing his house up.

[51:41] He's decided to leave Los Angeles.

[51:44] The Crocodile Dundee run is over.

[51:46] He's going to go back to Australia with his tail between his legs.

[51:49] The thing that it seemed like he wanted to do from the beginning of the movie and nothing

[51:53] was really stopping him.

[51:54] He's finally doing his goal.

[51:56] His stated act.

[51:57] One goal is now the act to rock bottom moment.

[52:01] And it doesn't make any sense.

[52:03] It's like he also has a very long beard in this scene.

[52:07] But that's just a game.

[52:08] Well, that's a game.

[52:09] He takes his long beard off and puts it in a box.

[52:10] But it's like if in the movie, Rudy, he was like, I want to play football.

[52:15] And then at the end of act two, he's on the field.

[52:17] He's like, oh, I've never hated myself more.

[52:22] I've become what I set out to become.

[52:25] I've become what I most love.

[52:30] So if the beginning of Star Wars looks like I want to get off this planet.

[52:34] And then by act two, he's like, Tatooine, I wish I was back with my aunt and uncle.

[52:39] All right.

[52:40] All right.

[52:41] They were burned to a crisp.

[52:42] Right.

[52:43] Right.

[52:44] Right.

[52:45] Sure.

[52:46] So I kind of forgot that by the end of the movie.

[52:47] I'm not so sad anymore.

[52:48] Is it.

[52:49] And I will say it's another.

[52:50] It's another wonderful that movie Star Wars is that it never occurs to us that it takes

[52:53] place over like a day or two.

[52:55] And he is totally not grieving for his aunt and uncle anymore.

[52:58] And he's become a Jedi Knight after a day of training.

[53:00] It's amazing.

[53:01] What a movie.

[53:02] And it just doesn't occur to us.

[53:03] OK.

[53:04] Olivia Newton-John decides to cheer him up by setting her up by setting him up with this

[53:07] friend of hers.

[53:08] They meet and they're really into each other right away.

[53:11] It's a sweet little first date scene that gets interrupted because the valet bandit.

[53:17] The guy who stole his car is in the middle of stealing another car.

[53:21] Paul Hogan gets handed a can from a grocery shopper.

[53:23] Because if there's one thing we know about Crocodile Dundee, he throws cans.

[53:28] Yeah.

[53:29] Maybe that's the thing from the movie.

[53:30] I don't remember.

[53:31] I don't remember.

[53:32] I guess in the end.

[53:33] America does it.

[53:34] I guarantee.

[53:35] He showed the clip at the beginning of the movie.

[53:36] Did they.

[53:37] The Crocodile NES game.

[53:38] Maybe he's throwing cans at bad guys.

[53:40] Yeah.

[53:41] It's an upgrade.

[53:42] You got to upgrade your weapons.

[53:43] He throws the can.

[53:44] It flies through the air for roughly 45 minutes.

[53:48] And they keep cutting between crocodile and Paul Hogan.

[53:51] The guy running away and a kind of a homeless bag lady who's running and I kept expecting

[53:56] the can to hit her by accident and for it to be another mishap.

[53:59] But instead it hits the.

[54:00] What was she there for?

[54:02] That's.

[54:03] Is that the red herring?

[54:04] That is why it was there.

[54:05] Because they're setting you up to worry that it's going to happen again.

[54:08] But it's not funny enough or dramatic enough.

[54:10] Just have him throw the can and have it hit the valet.

[54:12] No, it doesn't make any sense.

[54:14] It doesn't need to be there.

[54:15] Anyway, it hits the valet.

[54:17] Maybe she's a ghost that appeared on screen and they didn't know she was in the movie.

[54:20] You know, the crazy thing is it hits the valet band in the back of the head.

[54:24] His head shatters.

[54:25] Brains and blood go everywhere.

[54:27] People start freaking out.

[54:28] Yeah.

[54:29] Paul Hogan looks at his hands now covered in blood.

[54:31] Yeah.

[54:32] The blood spatters hundreds of feet back to where Paul Hogan is standing because there

[54:36] was that much blood in the guy's head.

[54:38] He didn't realize that the valet bandit, his head is just a balloon full of tomato juice.

[54:44] And he was carrying a rage virus.

[54:45] So all those people are infected.

[54:46] Oh, yeah.

[54:47] Wow.

[54:48] So this is the.

[54:49] That's right, because it's called The Very Excellent Mustard Dundee 28 Days Previous.

[54:53] If only he had done that somewhere that didn't have 10,000 onlookers standing around to burst

[54:59] into applause when he hit the gun.

[55:01] Everyone applauds.

[55:02] And Paul Hogan is back on top.

[55:05] It's all over the news, everything, because if there's anything we love, it's rebuilding

[55:09] our fallen idols after they do something minor.

[55:13] The all is forgiven stories that are playing on all of the entertainment.

[55:17] Well, that's why all these canceled celebrities are now doing meeting out vigilante justice

[55:23] on the street.

[55:24] Yeah, yeah.

[55:25] As the Chappelle injures, they're going out.

[55:28] Yeah.

[55:29] Just stop.

[55:30] Can we talk about the fact that there's like a weird amount of footage of on a news show

[55:35] where they clearly repurpose footage of fucking Mel Gibson looking like a crazy person?

[55:40] And I'm like, stop making me look at this.

[55:44] And there's a weird fucking joke about them running over fucking Harvey Weinstein.

[55:48] And I'm like, I don't know.

[55:50] I don't know what they mean by this.

[55:51] Like, I don't know.

[55:53] Yeah, it's it's a it was one of those things where, like, if they had I didn't know if

[55:57] the joke was, oh, we ran who was we ran over Harvey Weinstein.

[56:00] Oh, good.

[56:01] Let's back up and run over him again.

[56:02] Or if the joke was, oh, no, we hit Harvey Weinstein like that's a bad thing.

[56:07] It's just it's so it's hard to parse the the politics of this, again, movie made by

[56:11] an old man.

[56:12] It's hard to know what's going on.

[56:14] It's like Gran Torino.

[56:15] You're like, oh, I guess he's trying to do something that's not racist, but it comes

[56:18] off pretty racist.

[56:19] I don't know that he gets positive news.

[56:23] Chevy Chase finally gets bad press.

[56:25] I don't remember knocking things off of tables in restaurants because apparently he's a fucking

[56:30] cat.

[56:31] Yeah.

[56:32] Apparently, it is the slowest day in entertainment news that Chevy Chase knocks plate off table

[56:38] is the second story on the broadcast.

[56:40] You know, I don't know, Hogan is back on top, being the first to lead the story.

[56:48] It's too bad every other famous person died three days ago because the only two we have

[56:54] anything to report about that mysterious celebrity rapture happened.

[57:02] Celebrity rapture.

[57:03] It sounds like Cameron's next movie.

[57:05] Yeah, I want to see that so badly.

[57:10] OK.

[57:11] The skies were dark because all the stars were taken to heaven.

[57:14] We're in.

[57:15] We're literally in heaven.

[57:16] We're literally in heaven.

[57:17] The skies were bright again because all the stars were back in heaven.

[57:21] This definitely feels like an L.A. where like at least like all celebrities under the age

[57:26] of forty five have been raptured.

[57:29] Like we are only seeing like that's why Paul Hogan is the lead story.

[57:34] Yeah.

[57:35] Yeah.

[57:36] No one else is around.

[57:37] We only see younger people when they are on TV talking about Paul Hogan.

[57:40] That's the like we see a Hemsworth talking about Paul Hogan.

[57:44] Which was a quote.

[57:45] It's a quote.

[57:46] Audrey, when he came on, I was like, oh, Luke, the least of the Hemsworths, he's he's Hemsworth

[57:53] less than the others.

[57:54] Hemsworth.

[57:55] Yeah.

[57:56] It's it's it's half a hem.

[57:57] Now we have a client.

[57:58] We have this kind of montage that usually means the movie is over, but somehow it keeps

[58:01] going a little bit.

[58:02] Paul's manager goes to London to accept the knighthood for him, which I didn't know you

[58:06] could do.

[58:07] I kind of thought you had to be there to get knighted.

[58:09] I do like that.

[58:10] I do like the line where they're like, I know the knighthood for the star because it's the

[58:15] Queen's favorite.

[58:16] The star of the Queen's favorite movie, Crocodile Dundee three.

[58:19] And the fact that they went with the sequel, I love what if what if her actual favorite

[58:24] movie is King Ralph?

[58:26] Guys, wouldn't that be fucking weird?

[58:27] That would be weird.

[58:28] It would be.

[58:29] Yeah.

[58:30] I mean, she does have a fantasy of finally, you know, hanging up the crown, handing it

[58:34] over to John Goodman.

[58:35] Yeah.

[58:36] Give it to Peter O'Toole.

[58:37] Yeah.

[58:38] The idea that there's so much in that movie that they don't really I guess they don't

[58:44] really know how monarchy works, that like the king can't just name another person like

[58:49] you're the king now.

[58:50] Forget it.

[58:51] I'm out of here.

[58:52] But also the or maybe you can.

[58:54] I haven't been done.

[58:55] But Elizabeth the second sometimes is just like, if only I could sit down to take a group

[58:59] photo and end my time on this earth and just leave this torment and never have to worry

[59:04] about Helen Mirren playing me again in anything and being so much being so much better at

[59:08] me than I am at me.

[59:10] Yeah.

[59:11] Yeah.

[59:12] When she's playing that level in Hitman three, she's like, I wish this was me now.

[59:14] Also, Crocodile Dundee three is called Crocodile Dundee in Los Angeles on the poster.

[59:18] So I don't know if it was officially Crocodile Dundee three.

[59:21] Was it?

[59:22] Could you put it on the bloops page for the Crocodile Dundee three?

[59:28] The poster is still fucking cool.

[59:31] It's I mean, it's got Paul Hogan on it, so, you know, it's yeah.

[59:36] So we see the opening of a gallery show for the photographer.

[59:40] He is.

[59:41] Yes.

[59:42] I mean, it's like a maple, maple type thing, right?

[59:44] Nope.

[59:45] Not at all.

[59:46] And Michael Forbes photos are very, very posed and also very crisp in their in their visuals,

[59:52] their images, whereas his are a blurry and it's called Life is a Blur.

[59:55] And it's his blurry pictures of L.A. and we see it's implied that, I guess, Kim

[1:00:00] Kardashian bought the photograph of her and his eyes widen as if as if he's a boo looking at that one big

[1:00:06] Ruby and the in the Cave of Wonders in Aladdin

[1:00:10] They had so much coverage of this actor just taking in like big

[1:00:14] Self-satisfied breaths and like looking around in wonderment at his own genius and his mom comes up to and goes and I never nice work

[1:00:21] I never thought you'd amount to anything and he's like, thanks mom and it's like

[1:00:25] Okay, and they're not really a joke there like

[1:00:28] Reginald L. Johnson is now starring in the Crocodile Dundee musical on Broadway

[1:00:32] The studio executives are so impressed by Paul Hogan's amazing idea to make a musical of his old movie

[1:00:39] Because it's never been done before certainly never done on Broadway before how did he come up with it?

[1:00:44] How did he come up with that?

[1:00:45] It took a head injury and a night in jail dreaming it up and the fact that it's also a go-goes

[1:00:50] Jukebox musical just is the icing on the cake, you know, but it just it gets me both of those things

[1:00:54] Yeah, the funny thing here though, like you see

[1:00:58] Paul Hogan getting ready, you know, like there's these two big things happening. He's being knighted

[1:01:03] premiere night of his musical

[1:01:05] Like he's getting ready like the movies trying to lead you down the garden path thing

[1:01:10] He's getting ready for one of these things and then like you see him

[1:01:14] With his like oh, he's at his granddaughter's recital and there's also like news like voiceover being like Paul Hogan misses his

[1:01:22] Spot on the Tonight Show and I'm like fuck you like triple booked yourself. Just

[1:01:35] He's not at the Tonight Show that he books knowing it was the same knowing not only is the same night as his granddaughter's musical

[1:01:39] But he's gonna have to go to Australia for that musical

[1:01:42] So he's not even gonna be on the same continent that this show is taping

[1:01:46] So he appall attends his granddaughter's school play

[1:01:49] He snubs the Queen snubs the Tonight Show snubs the Broadway opening musical all that cares about all he cares about his family

[1:01:56] and Paul's son opens a nightclub and a

[1:01:59] Girl shows up and he kind of and they smile at each other and I was like are we supposed to know who this is?

[1:02:04] Yeah, this is this a character that was referenced earlier guys. Is it a famous person? What was it? Tell me just wait

[1:02:10] Well, I I was hoping that you'd looked it up

[1:02:12] I thought maybe she was a famous actor that I was not familiar with but in the absence of any

[1:02:17] Context it was just like well, I guess this like, you know, handsome young guy is good at everything

[1:02:24] You know, there's there's a pretty girl

[1:02:29] This is not a he's already but he's like this is presented as yeah, very handsome super talented guy

[1:02:35] So for him to get the girl at the end is not a triumph like it's not no

[1:02:40] It's not like you know when

[1:02:43] What when you that moment in the sandlot where the nerdy kid

[1:02:47] Kisses the lifeguard and then they're like they're married now

[1:02:49] They have six kids and you're like, yeah, the nerdy guy did it like it's not that moment, you know

[1:02:53] Yeah, again, that's a moment that comes after a brief assault

[1:02:56] So it's not that great a moment, you know

[1:02:58] Since he kisses under the false pretenses that he's dying and she has to give a mouth-to-mouth

[1:03:02] but

[1:03:03] But uh, but again, you know what I'm saying?

[1:03:06] There's no for his son to like have a pretty girl smile at him. That probably happens 75 times a day

[1:03:10] He's like Paul Hogan's son. Everybody wants to get with him so they can get with Paul Hogan. Anyway

[1:03:15] John Cleese is another car chase. Oh, well that guy never learned and

[1:03:20] The movie should be over but it's not Paul has moved to Australia with his dog

[1:03:23] His man, he gets a magazine in the mail that shows that his manager has achieved her dream of making something for kids

[1:03:28] Is it a crocodile Dundee cartoon? Yes, that's exactly what it is

[1:03:33] Animation monthly or some shit. We've entered a world where the only entertainment available to the masses is Crocodile Dundee

[1:03:43] To pitch like a new take on like Sherlock Holmes or whatever like now, how does

[1:03:54] Disney plus subscriptions have gone way down Dundee plus subscriptions way

[1:03:59] It's it's like the answer to Martin Scorsese being like Marvel's really taken over entertainment like it could be worse Marty

[1:04:06] What if it was just Crocodile Dundee?

[1:04:11] What if the CDC you and take it over everything

[1:04:17] And live and Olivia's friend whose name I don't remember it goes to Paul's new house

[1:04:21] They're not lovers necessarily, but they do seem like they're close friends. So that's okay at that age, you know, what's the there's no real difference

[1:04:28] It's just about companionship and Paul is relaxing on the beach while his granddaughter plays with his friends

[1:04:33] It looks like Paul Hogan is finally gonna get what he's always wanted the whole movie a nice nap when Oh

[1:04:40] Who is?

[1:04:41] Implied to be on the chair next to him because his face is covered by a newspaper and his voice is clearly dubbed

[1:04:49] Who is it and who is it Wayne Knight is back, that's right

[1:04:53] Wayne Knight is back or at least his voice is as again

[1:04:55] They a standard with a newspaper over his face with his newspaper with Wayne Knight's picture on it

[1:05:02] To really drive the bit home

[1:05:06] Now Stewart now Stewart, hold on I just well, yeah

[1:05:10] Yeah, he's very frustrated in the movie ends, but I want to ask Stewart a very important question. Yeah

[1:05:14] I want to know the answer to did you stop the movie right at the credits again?

[1:05:19] Or did you see the thing that happened or did you go to the mid-credits a

[1:05:24] Stewart's faces in his hands. I feel like such a fucking idiot

[1:05:31] So guys about five minutes before this point in the movie I

[1:05:38] Was making coffee and then I left my apartment. Yeah

[1:05:45] Did you not finish the movie

[1:05:50] When does it finish

[1:05:55] I think I think the last the last moment my brain captured from this film was him looking at animation

[1:06:02] Quarterly or whatever in his mailbox and then his friend walking up and I'm like, I'm assuming it's over at this point

[1:06:10] I'm like, there's I should have assumed because there's so much gold on screen that there must have been a little bit of stuff

[1:06:19] Feel like it was struggling

[1:06:23] I'm just I'm just amazing. I'm amazed that Stewart almost made it all the way to the end of this 88 minute marathon

[1:06:34] There's a mid-credits sequence where he's shaving with a knife and he goes and he's dressed as the crocodile Dundee again

[1:06:41] He goes that's not a knife. That's a bloody stupid way to shave and then he winks at the camera and that's it

[1:06:46] So it's not don't worry. It's not setting up the sequel still

[1:06:49] Okay

[1:06:50] Okay, I would have felt like an idiot

[1:06:52] Luckily, I rented easily the part that sets up the sequel is when Sam Jackson at the end of the credit says he's gonna

[1:06:58] Rope him into the Dundee initiative. Yeah

[1:07:02] Man well, that's the nice thing about having rented it is I can go and watch those bloops

[1:07:08] Then I'll text all you guys with my thoughts

[1:07:11] OMG, I can't believe they did that. No, Texas. Yeah

[1:07:15] With a emoji of us of a shocked cat face

[1:07:18] Yeah, and then probably a selfie of me and the screen and holding up today's newspaper

[1:07:28] Has your picture

[1:07:31] Covering your face

[1:07:34] It's a picture of me and Wayne Knight

[1:07:40] Holding up newspapers of that day when that

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[1:13:30] Uh, okay, let's talk about your...

[1:13:32] So was this a movie?

[1:13:33] That's the question, I guess we're doing,

[1:13:34] in front of the news, the question I have is

[1:13:35] was this a movie?

[1:13:36] Like, what is this thing?

[1:13:38] Final judge, is this a good, bad movie?

[1:13:39] A bad, bad movie?

[1:13:40] A movie kind of like...

[1:13:41] This movie straddles the line between feature film

[1:13:43] and video you show at an anniversary party.

[1:13:46] Yeah, it really does.

[1:13:49] Look, what I'm gonna say about this movie is like,

[1:13:51] I'm gonna say good, bad, because I enjoyed watching it.

[1:13:55] It was certainly like a very strange experience.

[1:13:59] There's stuff in it that like, politically,

[1:14:01] I'm like, I don't know what you're doing, movie.

[1:14:04] I don't think you do.

[1:14:05] I don't think you're smart enough.

[1:14:07] But there is a certain charm to...

[1:14:10] Like, I think that Paul Hogan is still like,

[1:14:12] kind of a charming presence,

[1:14:14] and there's a bit of enjoyment to be gotten out of,

[1:14:17] what I call the old geezer movie,

[1:14:22] where you get someone who used to be famous,

[1:14:25] and late in their career, they do something

[1:14:28] that is just really playing off the zazz of being like,

[1:14:31] okay, well, here's a star who's old now doing a thing,

[1:14:35] like Grumpy Old Men, or the more upscale version

[1:14:41] would be Nobody's Fool with Paul Newman.

[1:14:43] I mean, Grumpy Old Men is a pretty upscale version

[1:14:46] compared to the very excellent Mr. Nugget.

[1:14:48] No, no, no, I know.

[1:14:49] Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau and Anne Moffat.

[1:14:50] It's way, way, way higher.

[1:14:52] I'm not saying that, but there's like...

[1:14:54] When Kevin Pollak is the fourth-billed person in the movie,

[1:14:56] that's pretty upscale.

[1:14:58] There's a version...

[1:14:59] Oh, I'm sorry, when Burgess Meredith is fourth-billed,

[1:15:02] Kevin Pollak is fifth-billed, Dan.

[1:15:04] There is a type of movie where the charm is just like,

[1:15:07] oh, this old guy's still kicking.

[1:15:09] Yeah, yeah, that's true.

[1:15:10] And I kind of enjoyed it on that level,

[1:15:12] because those were not...

[1:15:15] Crocodile Dundee, the first one, is fine.

[1:15:19] It's a fun piece of whatever it was.

[1:15:22] There's stuff in it that didn't age well,

[1:15:23] but it's charming enough.

[1:15:26] It was funny, our pals over at Blank Check

[1:15:28] did the Patreon, all of the Crocodile Dundee series,

[1:15:32] and they were like, we're recording commentaries

[1:15:35] for all three of them all in one day.

[1:15:37] And I rubbed my hands with glee,

[1:15:39] knowing like, oh, boys, the diminishing returns

[1:15:43] to your end for it, but I don't know.

[1:15:46] I'm just saying, like, there was parts of it

[1:15:48] that was like, sort of like weirdly charming

[1:15:50] in the same way that watching someone's anniversary video

[1:15:52] can be charming, but it's not a good movie by any means.

[1:15:57] It works really well.

[1:15:58] It works very well as a proof of life video

[1:16:00] just to be like, Paul Burgess is still around.

[1:16:02] He's still fine.

[1:16:04] He can walk, he can talk, he can drive.

[1:16:06] He sees at night, like, he's taking care of himself fine.

[1:16:10] He doesn't need a help.

[1:16:11] Yeah.

[1:16:13] Yeah, so mild fondness, but it's definitely not a movie.

[1:16:16] What do you guys have to say?

[1:16:18] Yeah, I'll, I, it's a tough one, but yeah, I mean,

[1:16:24] yeah, I mean, I guess it's a kind of a good, bad movie.

[1:16:28] Yeah, I mean, it's, there's not really any jokes.

[1:16:36] Yeah, you know, it's kind of tough.

[1:16:38] You know, this is a little bit tough.

[1:16:40] I had a last night when my wife was trying to fall asleep,

[1:16:44] she's been having neck problems

[1:16:46] and my cat climbed off of my chest,

[1:16:49] my 20 pound cat muscles.

[1:16:50] He climbed off of my chest

[1:16:52] and climbed basically onto her head.

[1:16:54] And she just started like yelling

[1:16:55] because it was hurting her neck.

[1:16:57] So I tried to reach over and push the cat

[1:16:59] and instead my hand reached under the cat

[1:17:02] and somehow I must've hit the wrong button

[1:17:05] because I managed to express his anal glands

[1:17:08] and he squirted fucking shit on my hands and on her pillow.

[1:17:16] And just what I'm trying to say is that

[1:17:17] that was funnier than what happened.

[1:17:25] That does sound funnier than this movie still.

[1:17:28] Yeah, very fair.

[1:17:30] Yeah, it's a mild good, bad.

[1:17:32] I mean, I'd say that the first third

[1:17:34] is where the most squirmy, uncomfortable stuff happens.

[1:17:39] And also is where your mind is racing,

[1:17:42] like trying to figure out

[1:17:43] what is even about to happen to you.

[1:17:47] And then once you kind of relax into it,

[1:17:49] it's like, it's fine.

[1:17:51] It's just, it's kind of,

[1:17:53] it's just, it misses so many of the at-bats

[1:17:57] that, and it has so,

[1:17:59] like for as like thin an idea as it is,

[1:18:04] it does have like a number of setups

[1:18:06] and they just like never go anywhere.

[1:18:09] And it's like almost amazing to watch something

[1:18:12] set so many things up that fail to be realized at all.

[1:18:17] Use the metaphor of at-bats.

[1:18:19] It's like, if the pitcher is throwing balls

[1:18:21] right over the plate

[1:18:22] and the batter is still in the cab

[1:18:24] from the hotel to the stadium,

[1:18:26] like that, he's never gonna hit him.

[1:18:27] He doesn't even know the balls.

[1:18:28] He doesn't know the game has started.

[1:18:30] I'm gonna give it a, I'm gonna give it a,

[1:18:34] I'm gonna say it's a semi-likable bad-bad.

[1:18:39] I feel like it's, aside from that musical,

[1:18:44] aside from that, that's not a knife musical number.

[1:18:47] It's not that like, oh, this movie is so painful,

[1:18:50] but it's like, there's no reason to watch it.

[1:18:51] There's just no, if you're on a space shuttle

[1:18:54] and it's a generations long flight to another planet

[1:18:58] and this is the only movie that's on board

[1:19:00] in the on-ship library,

[1:19:02] then like, it could be worse,

[1:19:05] but there's so many other choices

[1:19:08] even for good bad movies to watch.

[1:19:09] Why bother?

[1:19:10] A lot of diabolical form of torture.

[1:19:12] Unless you're an absolute weirdo like me

[1:19:14] who texts you both saying, I've had my eye on this one.

[1:19:19] Just because it's such a strange cultural artifact,

[1:19:22] yeah, there's no need to excavate it.

[1:19:24] I would say it's for Paul Hogan completists only.

[1:19:27] Yeah, I mean, I think from now on,

[1:19:30] they'll screen it every year at HogueCon.

[1:19:33] Yeah.

[1:19:35] As we all eat our hoagies.

[1:19:36] Yep, that's the food of choice at HogueCon, hoagies.

[1:19:39] The only thing for us there are the Paul Hogan movies

[1:19:42] and the Ballad of Cable Hogue starring Jason Robards.

[1:19:44] Second Sam Peckinpah reference of the episode, dudes.

[1:19:47] Nice, nice.

[1:19:49] Well, let us move on to the next segment

[1:19:53] of our conversation.

[1:19:55] Well, let us move on to letters from listeners.

[1:20:00] Uh, you can, uh, write us a letter.

[1:20:03] Yeah.

[1:20:03] Why not?

[1:20:04] Why not?

[1:20:05] Why not?

[1:20:05] Why don't you do it right now?

[1:20:06] Yeah.

[1:20:06] Nothing's stopping you or is it, uh, who's stopping you from writing a letter?

[1:20:09] Tell us, write us a letter and tell, oh, wait, you can't.

[1:20:12] Okay.

[1:20:13] How are you going to communicate with us?

[1:20:14] If you can't write a letter, uh, can you tweet?

[1:20:16] No, they won't let you tweet either.

[1:20:18] Okay.

[1:20:18] Uh, what Dan, do you think maybe they can call us on the phone?

[1:20:21] I'll just give them your phone number.

[1:20:22] Okay.

[1:20:22] That's Dan McCoy.

[1:20:24] Uh, one, two, three, four, five, six.

[1:20:27] Uh, this is from Alexander last name withheld, who writes, I'll be concise.

[1:20:32] My first child is due on Christmas Eve.

[1:20:34] My spouse has, you know, there was another child who was due on Christmas Eve.

[1:20:42] A very special child.

[1:20:44] And that child's name was Humphrey Bogart born on Christmas day in 1899.

[1:20:50] My first child is due on Christmas Eve.

[1:20:52] My spouse has 12 weeks of paid parental leave.

[1:20:56] Shout out to paid parental leave.

[1:20:58] And I will use FMLA to take off eight.

[1:21:02] Can you recommend movies or audio books to experience in 15 to 30 minute

[1:21:07] intervals between diaper changing slash feeding slash napping slash cuddling.

[1:21:12] Bonus points of the experience is heightened by pronounced lack of sleep

[1:21:15] and or excess of hormones.

[1:21:18] Best Alexander.

[1:21:20] Alexander.

[1:21:21] That's that's I'm going to say right off the bat that if your experience is like

[1:21:24] mine, you're going to be like, Oh, all this time, I'm just like holding a baby

[1:21:27] or waiting to hold a baby.

[1:21:29] I'll use that time to catch up on movies.

[1:21:30] Doesn't work that way.

[1:21:31] I'm sorry.

[1:21:32] Yeah.

[1:21:32] Your mind will be addled.

[1:21:34] You'll you'll only be able to do one thing, which is curse the gods that you

[1:21:38] ever chose to continue this benighted race note as humanity, uh, bring this

[1:21:44] pox upon yourself.

[1:21:45] Um, but what do you guys think?

[1:21:47] What stuff that's

[1:21:48] I figured this would be mostly a question for you to be honest when, when, uh, the,

[1:21:54] I remember when my older son, uh, was, was a baby.

[1:21:58] It just every now and then I'd try to watch a movie in the middle of the night

[1:22:00] while I was like trying to soothe him.

[1:22:02] And it wouldn't really work when my younger son was a baby, there was only one

[1:22:06] movie I managed to watch that way.

[1:22:07] And that was stalker.

[1:22:08] Andre Tarkovsky is, uh, you know, kind of hypnotic, kind of boring science fiction

[1:22:13] film.

[1:22:14] Uh, and unfortunately the problem was that part of, part of the strengths, one

[1:22:17] of the strengths of stalker is the sound design.

[1:22:19] And I had to watch it with the sound super low.

[1:22:21] Cause I was trying to get a baby to sleep.

[1:22:22] So I was like, I'll watch a foreign movie.

[1:22:24] I'll read the subtitles, but I still didn't get the full movie.

[1:22:27] That being said with headphones, I mean, take, get, find a long book that you

[1:22:31] really want to hear and go for it.

[1:22:33] There's a little book called the power broker.

[1:22:35] It's very long.

[1:22:35] They'll give you plenty of things to listen to.

[1:22:37] Just slap the, uh, just slap the noise canceling on your headphones so that the

[1:22:41] baby doesn't bother you.

[1:22:42] Exactly.

[1:22:43] And Stu, what's that like, what's a, what's an epic fantasy story maybe or

[1:22:45] something, some real long novel or something like that?

[1:22:48] Oh, uh, yeah, I don't know.

[1:22:51] I mean, I feel, I was going to try and answer the question about,

[1:22:53] about like movies to watch.

[1:22:55] I feel like also don't you, don't you like watch most of your

[1:22:58] movies while doing the dishes?

[1:22:59] How long do you take doing the dishes?

[1:23:00] I mean, every time I watch the movies, it's in 15 to 30 minute intervals because

[1:23:04] I'm doing the dishes while I do it.

[1:23:05] Yeah.

[1:23:05] So the only, the only, I've only, the only movies I get to watch all the way

[1:23:09] through these days are children's movies I'm watching with my kids.

[1:23:11] So if anyone has any questions about my neighbor Totoro, I recently watched

[1:23:15] that all the way through.

[1:23:17] Otherwise I'll continue to go back to watching Malcolm X in 30 minute

[1:23:20] chunks while I do the dishes.

[1:23:22] So your recommendation is all movies.

[1:23:24] Every movie should be watched that way.

[1:23:25] I mean, the amazing thing about watching movies that way is that I feel like it

[1:23:29] gives me a much better sense of whether a movie is hitting certain marks

[1:23:34] structurally, because it's like, I know I am this far into the movie.

[1:23:38] Where am I in the movie?

[1:23:39] And when it's a really good movie, I feel like, okay, I'm as far into the

[1:23:43] movie as I feel like I should be into the movie.

[1:23:45] Like the movie feels like it's at the right point.

[1:23:46] And if it's a movie that's not working as well, there are a lot of times when

[1:23:49] I'm like, Oh, what am I like an hour, hour and 20 minutes in this movie?

[1:23:52] Okay.

[1:23:53] 35 minutes.

[1:23:53] No cat has been saved yet.

[1:23:55] What the heck?

[1:23:57] There's that she love hasn't shown up yet.

[1:23:59] Every movie has that she love moment when she like that's, that's

[1:24:02] classic story circle structure.

[1:24:04] You got to have a she love moment.

[1:24:05] Sure.

[1:24:05] Yeah.

[1:24:06] Okay.

[1:24:06] But Stu recommend some movies then.

[1:24:08] I don't fucking know.

[1:24:09] Like I thought I'd recommend movies.

[1:24:12] Okay.

[1:24:13] Recommend some movies.

[1:24:13] I don't know.

[1:24:14] Do you put the football away?

[1:24:16] I mean, I feel like, so I've been watching, like, I watch a lot of stuff

[1:24:20] when I, when I work out at home and all that shit is like, uh, whatever, whatever

[1:24:25] is like, like fucking, uh, like chopping mall and shit on shutter.

[1:24:30] I watch things that I know that like, I'm going to enjoy that have like

[1:24:35] chopping mall, have a Academy award-winning soundtrack and, uh, yeah.

[1:24:40] Stuff that stuff that like, like chopping mall and Teton, as soon as it's over,

[1:24:44] I just want to start it back up again.

[1:24:46] It helps the chopping mall.

[1:24:47] That's only like 70 minutes long, but I feel like, uh, you're

[1:24:51] really hitting chopping mall hard.

[1:24:52] This is a big, this is a big chopping mall.

[1:24:56] I don't know.

[1:24:57] I mean, like, yeah, I would say I generally would use that time to like.

[1:25:02] Go through weird shit in unlike shutter or dig deep into the bowels of Amazon

[1:25:08] prime and Netflix to see what kind of fucking mysteries await you.

[1:25:11] Yeah.

[1:25:11] Especially if it's a baby, they can't, they don't understand

[1:25:14] what's going on on the screen.

[1:25:14] So you don't have to worry about them watching something that's going

[1:25:17] to scar them for later in life.

[1:25:19] Right.

[1:25:19] Unlike when I was, when I finally got to see Mandy a couple of years ago and I

[1:25:24] sat there worried the entire time that my son would wander into the room, having

[1:25:28] woken up in the middle of the night and see something terrible, see a guy with

[1:25:32] it, like see these horrible perverts slopping down their food while watching

[1:25:36] porn on TV before Nicholas Cage chopped their heads off.

[1:25:38] You know?

[1:25:40] Oh man.

[1:25:40] That's awesome.

[1:25:41] You're making it sad.

[1:25:42] I want to watch it again right now.

[1:25:43] It's a great movie.

[1:25:44] Just even, even if my kids walked in during the cheddar goblins commercial,

[1:25:47] it probably would have done something terrible to their psyche.

[1:25:50] Oh, they would spend so many years like wondering, did I dream that?

[1:25:54] What was that?

[1:25:55] They'd be like, was that a real knowing my kids?

[1:25:56] They'd be like, I want to eat that.

[1:25:58] Is that a real product?

[1:25:59] How do I get that?

[1:26:00] Um, moving on, Tyler, last name withheld, Perry writes, what are the lyrics to the

[1:26:07] flop house theme song?

[1:26:09] We all love the instrumental version, but sometimes you just need to sing along.

[1:26:12] You know, I tried to Googling it, but all I got were Elliot's mail song videos

[1:26:16] and the full house lyrics.

[1:26:20] This is like the Gene Roddenberry thing where he wrote lyrics that would never be

[1:26:25] played with, with the original.

[1:26:27] Was that?

[1:26:28] Yeah.

[1:26:28] You would, you would get a co-writing credit.

[1:26:30] It's the same way that there's, there's like, there's lyrics to the odd couple

[1:26:32] theme, which are terrible.

[1:26:34] No, man, we should've gotten in on this.

[1:26:36] Yeah.

[1:26:38] Yeah.

[1:26:39] Well, if you guys ever adapt the flop house to television, that's, that's what

[1:26:42] you gotta do.

[1:26:43] Yeah.

[1:26:44] I mean, the ironic thing is there are lyrics to the flop house theme.

[1:26:46] I don't know if you guys know him, but the lyrics are whatever happened to

[1:26:49] predictability, the milkman, the paperboy, the evening TV.

[1:26:52] It seems like the meter of that.

[1:26:54] I'm not going to do it now, but sing it for yourself.

[1:26:57] Yeah.

[1:26:57] Try this at home.

[1:26:58] Everyone.

[1:26:58] It's an experiment you can do.

[1:27:00] Yeah.

[1:27:00] Just, uh, just pull out some vinegar and some baking soda and then sing the lyrics.

[1:27:05] Yup.

[1:27:05] It's called the full flop house challenge.

[1:27:07] Hashtag full flop house challenge.

[1:27:09] Posted TikTok.

[1:27:09] Sing the full house lyrics to the flop house theme.

[1:27:12] Yeah.

[1:27:13] But yeah.

[1:27:13] Don't even post to TikTok.

[1:27:15] Someone will actually do this, Elliot.

[1:27:16] I want it.

[1:27:16] I want them to do it on a platform that I understand.

[1:27:18] I don't know.

[1:27:19] I don't know.

[1:27:20] I don't know.

[1:27:21] I don't know.

[1:27:22] I want it.

[1:27:22] I want them to do it on a platform that I understand.

[1:27:25] And we'll look at Dan and I keep telling you, you need to start a TikTok account

[1:27:29] where you bake things for me and I get to do reactions.

[1:27:34] Sounds good.

[1:27:35] I don't understand it, but it sounds great.

[1:27:37] Um, let's move on to recommendations of movies that we have seen and would

[1:27:44] recommend, um, I will recommend, you know, what Stuart and I say, Mr.

[1:27:50] Dundee, Stuart and I, uh, went out, we saw a movie together.

[1:27:56] I was, uh, he was, yeah, baby, honeymoon.

[1:28:02] Are you trying, you got married and then you're trying as best as you

[1:28:04] can to take, spend no time with your wife.

[1:28:07] You got married to a different person than I thought you two.

[1:28:11] Audrey has work to do during the day.

[1:28:13] Whereas I, whereas Stuart sometimes can get sneak out of work anyway.

[1:28:19] Um, so yeah, we were, uh, we went to see last night in Soho, which

[1:28:25] Stuart did not enjoy as much as me.

[1:28:28] And, uh, I will, I will admit that Stuart's critiques are correct.

[1:28:35] That, uh, uh, Edgar Wright.

[1:28:39] And I forget the co-writer, uh, of the screen, it doesn't matter wrong.

[1:28:45] Her, uh, the, the screenplay does not necessarily, uh, have the, um,

[1:28:55] subtlety or sensitivity to like deal with a lot of the stuff it brings up.

[1:29:00] And I understand that criticism and that the, the, the plotting gets, uh, a

[1:29:06] little like Baroque towards the end.

[1:29:08] And, uh, in a way that undermines maybe some of the themes of the movie, I'm

[1:29:14] trying to be vague because, you know, they're twists and turns of that kind of

[1:29:17] movie.

[1:29:18] Um, was the twist or with the turns?

[1:29:22] Well, look, I look, the problem is like, I, I didn't, and I see what Stuart's

[1:29:27] saying, but I also like didn't walk in expecting like a coherent sort of a

[1:29:31] feminist statement out of the film.

[1:29:33] I expected a skillful genre pastiche as Edgar Wright is, is good at doing.

[1:29:39] And so I was perhaps less disappointed by the turns it takes and the movie, if

[1:29:45] you're going to enjoy it, just on a pure, like, this is a movie about movies level

[1:29:49] and you're okay with that.

[1:29:51] Yeah.

[1:29:51] Like it has a very entrancing sort of, um, world to live in.

[1:29:56] Like Edgar Wright remains unparalleled.

[1:29:58] I think it like matching.

[1:30:00] uh, music to action, uh, with modern filmmakers.

[1:30:04] And there's just a lot of joy and skill in the way the world is, uh, realized,

[1:30:11] even if like, I don't know the sort of movie it is and the sort of filmmaker,

[1:30:15] uh, you're right.

[1:30:16] It's like combined together, winds up with some wonky plotting and themes maybe.

[1:30:22] But I, I thought it was a lot of fun.

[1:30:24] I've thought about it a lot since I watched it.

[1:30:27] Yeah.

[1:30:27] I mean, technically it's, it's very good.

[1:30:29] Uh, but kind of like, like it made me, made me, makes me think of, uh, of

[1:30:34] Jojo Rabbit, another movie that I did not like from a filmmaker I do like.

[1:30:38] And I've enjoyed thinking about why I don't like those movies.

[1:30:43] Uh, which, you know, it's important to understand why you

[1:30:46] don't like things sometimes.

[1:30:47] Um, I'm going to recommend a movie, uh, from Denmark.

[1:30:51] Oh yeah.

[1:30:52] From 2020 starring guess who?

[1:30:54] Mads Mikkelsen, a man who I am very mad about.

[1:30:59] Uh, cause he's great.

[1:31:00] Um, I'm recommending a movie called Riders of Justice.

[1:31:03] Oh, I got to see this.

[1:31:04] It's it's fucking great.

[1:31:06] Um, it's about a military man played by Mads Mikkelsen who, uh, his wife dies in

[1:31:13] an accident and he returns home to, uh, kind of take up his life and help

[1:31:19] out his grieving daughter.

[1:31:21] Um, but, and then he is approached by a mathematician who explains that

[1:31:26] math, it was mathematically impossible for it to be an accident that it

[1:31:30] had to be an act of violence.

[1:31:32] And it leads down this weird, uh, revenge.

[1:31:34] It turns into this revenge story that's similar to another

[1:31:37] movie that I love recently, Pig.

[1:31:39] I feel like it subverts a lot of the, uh, revenge movie tropes.

[1:31:42] Uh, but it also manages to add in, you know, just enough

[1:31:46] thrills for it to be exciting.

[1:31:48] Uh, and it's great.

[1:31:49] I really enjoyed it.

[1:31:50] It's sweet and touching and yep.

[1:31:53] Thumbs up.

[1:31:53] Riders of Justice.

[1:31:54] And if you see a movie poster for it, the movie poster that's at least on, uh,

[1:31:58] that's on most streaming services is fucking dog shit.

[1:32:02] It looks like, it looks like this like knockoff fucking Sons of Anarchy garbage.

[1:32:06] And it is absolutely not that.

[1:32:08] It has like motorcycles exploding, which I don't think I've seen a single

[1:32:12] exploding motorcycle in the movie.

[1:32:16] Just looking up.

[1:32:16] They just pick a weird stock images, huh?

[1:32:19] Yeah.

[1:32:19] It's kind of weird.

[1:32:20] Uh, yeah, this one.

[1:32:21] Yeah.

[1:32:23] It's bonkers.

[1:32:25] They should have done is have Mads Mikkelsen pushing two buildings aside,

[1:32:29] pushing two motorcycles aside.

[1:32:33] Yeah.

[1:32:33] With a big smile on his face.

[1:32:35] Oh, you know, it's nasty.

[1:32:38] Uh, should I go with a wreck?

[1:32:40] Yeah, do it.

[1:32:41] Sure.

[1:32:41] I'll go last.

[1:32:42] That's fine.

[1:32:43] I saw the new Alma Dover film last night at, uh, AFI fest.

[1:32:48] It's called parallel mothers and it is absolutely wonderful.

[1:32:52] Um, it's a, uh, it's a sort of a melodrama with Penelope Cruz playing a,

[1:32:59] uh, mom, uh, you know, she becomes a mother unexpectedly in her forties and

[1:33:03] she meets this young woman who has also become a mother unexpectedly, uh, I

[1:33:08] think under age in the hospital.

[1:33:11] And.

[1:33:12] Uh, there are some hijinks to do with their relationship, uh, that

[1:33:16] I don't want to spoil, but there's also kind of a plot running in the

[1:33:20] background about the Spanish civil war and, uh, Penelope Cruz's family history

[1:33:26] with that, and it's sort of comparing the sort of lies that we tell in our

[1:33:31] day-to-day lives to the kinds of lies that like fascist regimes keep, uh,

[1:33:37] telling and it is like incredibly powerful.

[1:33:41] The, and I was just like my, I was in a theater and my N95 was like totally

[1:33:48] soaked because it's like, it's such a wallop at the end, but, uh, it's, it's

[1:33:54] also just like, it's got all of the like things that I love about an Alma

[1:33:58] Dover movie, like all the fun melodrama stuff and feeling like I'm in like a,

[1:34:03] almost like a soap opera stretches and then, uh, and then like realizing that

[1:34:10] it's all been like building to a, uh, really mind shattering conclusion.

[1:34:15] So, um, really recommend it.

[1:34:18] I think it's going to be on Netflix in 2022, but, uh, if you can see

[1:34:22] it before then, uh, run, don't walk.

[1:34:25] I mean, it's not giving us much time.

[1:34:27] 2022 is almost here.

[1:34:29] Oh yeah.

[1:34:30] I guess it is.

[1:34:32] Get ready guys.

[1:34:33] It's almost new year's.

[1:34:34] That's right.

[1:34:34] Find someone to kiss when the ball drops, your resolution should

[1:34:38] be to watch parallel mothers.

[1:34:41] How are, how are, how is that going to fit into a pair of sunglasses for me?

[1:34:44] Where are my eyes going to go?

[1:34:46] One is going to go in the, Oh, right.

[1:34:48] The two, the zero, there's like a scoop out that a two has that it can kind of go

[1:34:54] there.

[1:34:55] Oh, okay.

[1:34:55] So I guess, yeah, I guess that works.

[1:34:57] Okay.

[1:34:58] I'm not as nervous about 2022 now.

[1:35:00] Best minds have been on the, have been working on this for years.

[1:35:04] It's one of the reasons why 22 K they called it one of the reasons we were

[1:35:08] taken so surprised by the pandemic was that all the CDC and everybody

[1:35:12] were working on this problem.

[1:35:14] So I think they've got it almost worked out.

[1:35:16] They have a big whiteboard that says extra.

[1:35:19] I question 20, two zero two zero two question.

[1:35:31] Uh, I'll recommend a movie.

[1:35:32] Finally.

[1:35:33] Uh, I'm going to recommend a movie by a director who I previously

[1:35:36] recommended a movie by before.

[1:35:38] I'm gonna recommend the movie working girls, which is currently

[1:35:40] on the criterion channel.

[1:35:41] It's written and directed by, uh, or co-written and directed by Lizzie

[1:35:44] Borden whose movie born in flames.

[1:35:46] I recommended a while ago and it's a kind of day in the life movie.

[1:35:50] It takes place over one day about a woman who works at like, it's a

[1:35:54] boutique brothel in the mid eighties.

[1:35:56] Movies from 1986 and how very, uh, dull most of that is, uh, and how

[1:36:04] also very awkward a lot of that is.

[1:36:06] And it's about her and these other women that work at this, this brothel.

[1:36:11] And one of the things I liked about it was that it is neither.

[1:36:15] Glamorizing sex work and making it look like it is a liberating, you

[1:36:19] know, enlightening experience, nor is it making it seem like it is the

[1:36:23] worst hell that a person can go through.

[1:36:25] It makes it feel very much like a job.

[1:36:27] And there were times when I was watching it where I was like, I wish I could

[1:36:30] adapt this into a sitcom about these women, basically having to sit around

[1:36:34] and hang out together until John's come in and then having to deal with each

[1:36:37] John's individual weird thing that they need, they can only get from

[1:36:40] the women who work at this place.

[1:36:42] And some of it is funny and some of it is really serious and thought-provoking.

[1:36:47] And I just, I really liked a lot.

[1:36:49] It feels like you are spending time watching some real people living in this

[1:36:53] space and the movie, although it's about prostitutes in a brothel, it is very

[1:36:58] much about what it is like to have a job and to work for a job where you

[1:37:02] do not control your hours.

[1:37:04] You don't control what you do during the day.

[1:37:06] And you're kind of at the whim of a boss who pretends to care about you, but

[1:37:10] really only sees you as something to be making money from.

[1:37:13] So it's ultimately about capitalism, but it was really good.

[1:37:17] But that makes it sound like it is kind of like an academic treatise when it's

[1:37:20] actually really entertaining movie.

[1:37:22] So that's Working Girls from Lizzie Borden.

[1:37:25] Well, what a delight.

[1:37:27] What a delight to be here with you fellows.

[1:37:30] What a delight to have Ben Harrison.

[1:37:31] I've got to say, I love the recs at the ends of these.

[1:37:33] I write these down most weeks when I listen to your show.

[1:37:37] And who's do you like best?

[1:37:40] Yeah, who's got the highest tier rate?

[1:37:42] It's OK if it's me.

[1:37:45] I actually don't know.

[1:37:47] I just I just write them down.

[1:37:49] I have a shared note with my wife and we we've we've watched quite a few of the

[1:37:53] movies that you guys have recommended.

[1:37:54] And it's it's it's really been a great part of our week.

[1:37:59] You know, I get the flophouse and then I get this fringe benefit.

[1:38:02] Oh, thank you. Thanks very much.

[1:38:03] Really nice to say.

[1:38:04] We you know, sometimes we feel like people just probably fast forward through the

[1:38:08] recommendations part because, you know, we're not doing our classic jokes that

[1:38:12] people love so much and all our bits.

[1:38:15] Our famous bits and the famous bits that people ultimately on Twitter clamor for

[1:38:20] and then tell me to never do again.

[1:38:24] But that's true. I feel that way sometimes, too.

[1:38:26] I worry that way because I remember when I was running a screening series in New

[1:38:30] York, it was very hard.

[1:38:31] You would say this is a great movie.

[1:38:33] You're going to love it. It's going to really mean something to you.

[1:38:34] And it would be hard to get people to say that.

[1:38:36] But if you were like, you got to come see this movie, it's the biggest piece of

[1:38:39] shit. It's ridiculous.

[1:38:40] You would have like it would be cool.

[1:38:42] But if you're like this movie is is a you have to trust me, this movie, you're

[1:38:46] going to remember it for the rest of your life.

[1:38:48] They'd be like, I don't know.

[1:38:49] So, well, you do you do that.

[1:38:51] You do that presentation about Nuki.

[1:38:53] Yeah. And you are imploring the audience to under no circumstances watch Nuki like

[1:38:58] you are begging.

[1:39:00] You are on your knees begging them, please don't watch it.

[1:39:02] And every person I've talked to after your presentation is like, I got to watch

[1:39:06] that. Yeah.

[1:39:07] This is a presentation I used to do at live shows about the movie Nuki, the second

[1:39:10] worst movie I ever saw.

[1:39:11] Yeah. And it's like it's like this is a bad movie.

[1:39:13] Don't wait. Don't don't spend your time on it.

[1:39:16] And it's down, Elliot.

[1:39:17] How do you spell that?

[1:39:19] Like it sounds.

[1:39:20] I mean, I mean, the purpose, the point of the presentation is, I mean, if people

[1:39:24] want to see it, who haven't seen it next time we do a virtual show, maybe I'll do

[1:39:27] that one. But the point of the presentation is that perhaps this movie by is art in

[1:39:32] a way by making us as feel the discomfort of the main character.

[1:39:35] But but it's yeah.

[1:39:36] But people they're like, oh, a bad thing.

[1:39:39] I'm drawn to that.

[1:39:40] Yeah. I live in the 21st century.

[1:39:43] Joy is devalued.

[1:39:44] I need I need the sting of the sting of torture to know I'm alive.

[1:39:47] As someone who is, I mean, arguably like the most committed to trash of the three of

[1:39:53] us and that, you know, we have a bad movie podcast.

[1:39:56] And then on top of that, I will.

[1:39:58] I mean, you watch trash.

[1:40:00] watch bad movies, weekly, you can't just fill yourself with garbage, you gotta have good

[1:40:11] stuff too.

[1:40:12] Please.

[1:40:13] Gotta have a little salt to bring out the sweets.

[1:40:15] Wait, no, that's the other way.

[1:40:19] I mean, it is similar to food, movies are like, you are what you eat, at a certain point

[1:40:26] you become the thing, the media you're ingesting.

[1:40:29] And I think if anything, the last 20 years of public life in America has shown us that

[1:40:33] if you ingest nothing but crap, then you find yourself turning into a thing you don't want

[1:40:39] to be.

[1:40:40] So, I guess what I'm saying is, have a good thing every now and then, watch a good movie

[1:40:45] every now and then, people, I'm sure you're all, all our listeners, I'm sure you're watching

[1:40:48] good movies regularly.

[1:40:49] But, you know, look for them, you know.

[1:40:52] Yeah.

[1:40:53] Anyway, so, the normal stuff at the end, which is to say, the important stuff.

[1:41:00] Well, the first thing I'm going to say is, hey, Ben, do you have anything you'd like

[1:41:03] to plug, my man?

[1:41:04] Oh, yeah.

[1:41:05] Oh, sure, yeah.

[1:41:06] So, I host, co-host The Greatest Generation and The Greatest Discovery right here on the

[1:41:10] MaximumFun.org network.

[1:41:13] Those are Star Trek podcasts, and if you're into Star Trek, give them a listen.

[1:41:18] If you're watching the new shows, that's Greatest Discovery, and if you are into the

[1:41:23] old shows, that's The Greatest Generation.

[1:41:26] We've done Next Gen and DS9, and we're currently working our way through Voyager.

[1:41:30] I feel like even if you're only, like, medium into Star Trek, you'll like the show.

[1:41:33] Oh, yeah.

[1:41:34] It's got a ton of funny bits.

[1:41:35] Yeah, yeah.

[1:41:36] I enjoy these shows.

[1:41:37] I think they're really funny, and I'm a wars boy.

[1:41:38] I don't really care that much about Star Trek.

[1:41:39] Yeah.

[1:41:40] Yeah.

[1:41:41] And also, if you, if you're a Maximum Fun member, just to, you know, plug the network,

[1:41:47] there's a bonus episode where you gents and we gents come together to talk about Star

[1:41:53] Trek 5.

[1:41:54] Yeah.

[1:41:55] One of, one of my favorite things we've ever done is the Flophouse X Greatest Gen Collabo

[1:42:00] in the Maximum Fun bonus feed.

[1:42:03] Collabo.

[1:42:04] Yeah.

[1:42:05] That was, it was, it was, it was really fun to talk about Kirk killing a cat woman in

[1:42:10] a pool table full of milk in the movie.

[1:42:14] Or an elderly.

[1:42:15] Or an elderly.

[1:42:16] And then Spock killing a grifter that is posing as God at the center of the galaxy.

[1:42:19] Yeah.

[1:42:20] And an old William Shatner climbing, free climbing up a mountain.

[1:42:24] That was ridiculous.

[1:42:25] I remember that.

[1:42:26] That's, oh.

[1:42:27] But I also have a new podcast called K-Pod 101.3, and that is a show that I'm doing independently

[1:42:36] with Dan Kennedy of The Moth Podcast, where we play to morning drive time DJs on an alternative

[1:42:43] rock station in LA in 1998.

[1:42:46] And our characters are just back from rehab.

[1:42:51] We were forced, we were suspended from the air and sent to rehab.

[1:42:54] So we're two characters that would otherwise have never had a moment of introspection in

[1:43:00] their life, who are now like back on air and trying to be the zoo crew that they are expected

[1:43:06] to be, but are like wondering, hey, are we jerks while they're doing it?

[1:43:11] So the comedy is from that.

[1:43:15] I both love that.

[1:43:16] I'm like, wow, a high concept.

[1:43:19] Yeah, it's kind of weirdly high concept, but it's a little 30 minute, 25 to 30 minute episodes.

[1:43:27] We've had some really great guests.

[1:43:28] We've had Ophira Eisenberg and Jesse Thorne and Ted Travelstead.

[1:43:34] And we've got some great folks coming up.

[1:43:38] I'm hoping to rope the three of you in for guest spots at some point in the future.

[1:43:44] But you don't have to promise Dan's pumping his fist.

[1:43:47] He's excited.

[1:43:48] Dan's either excited or hungry.

[1:43:50] I can't tell.

[1:43:51] Could be both.

[1:43:52] He's ex-hungry.

[1:43:53] Oh, he's rubbing his belly.

[1:43:54] So I think it's maybe the second thing.

[1:43:55] I got to get some food in this dude.

[1:43:56] Wait, wait, Stewart, I see Dan is looking at you and you're turning into a big turkey

[1:44:03] leg.

[1:44:04] Oh no.

[1:44:05] But I still have my face, right?

[1:44:06] Yeah, yeah.

[1:44:07] Is that a zoom filter?

[1:44:08] Or is that really happening?

[1:44:09] Well, that sounds very interesting.

[1:44:17] But thank you guys for having me.

[1:44:18] This is a real treat.

[1:44:20] I love your show so much.

[1:44:22] Thank you for coming on.

[1:44:23] Thank you, sir.

[1:44:24] Well, now I would also thank our network, Maximum Fun.

[1:44:28] You mentioned them earlier.

[1:44:29] Go to MaximumFun.org to check out other shows you might like.

[1:44:35] Whether they're funny or serious, I think the network has a nice kind of a vibe that

[1:44:41] carries through the different shows.

[1:44:43] So I'm sure you'll find something else that you'll like.

[1:44:45] Also thank you to Alex Smith.

[1:44:49] You know, check out his podcasts, It's Old Def, Do Us a Party, is not extant at the moment,

[1:44:55] but it had Stewart on it.

[1:44:57] And then he's got the Fast Track podcast.

[1:44:59] Oh, he's Fast Track, yeah.

[1:45:01] But for the Flophouse, I've been Dan McCoy.

[1:45:04] I'm Stewart Wellington.

[1:45:05] I'm Elliot Kalin.

[1:45:07] And for the last time, I'm Ben Harrison.

[1:45:09] The last time?

[1:45:10] Boom.

[1:45:13] Whatever happened to predictability?

[1:45:15] The milkman, the paperboy, the evening TV?

[1:45:18] Um...

[1:45:19] Um...

[1:45:21] Very end of the episode, Ben, we will say our names.

[1:45:25] And then you will say your name after Elliot says his name.

[1:45:28] Yeah.

[1:45:28] You might do a fucking bit.

[1:45:30] You never know this.

[1:45:30] What?

[1:45:32] We always forget to tell the guests that they're expected to see themselves out by saying their name.

[1:45:39] And it's always confusing.

[1:45:40] It's just an awkward, awkward silence.

[1:45:42] Then they go, oh, oh, me too.

[1:45:43] And then we're like, God, you look like an idiot.

[1:45:45] Why are you on our podcast?

[1:45:48] That's the only way we can feel smarter.

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