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FH Mini 46 - Missed that Movie! Georgia Rule, with Jordan Crucchiola

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[0:00] Hey y'all, before we get to this week's show, just a content warning, there's discussions
[0:08] of sexual assault that took us, the Flophouse, by surprise, so we don't want them to take
[0:14] you by surprise as the listener, and apologies, an earlier version of this episode went up
[0:23] with a content warning, but it was just in the show notes, which I know a lot of you
[0:28] don't read, so I wanted to throw this one up there that has it just front and center.
[0:36] If you can be prepared to listen to it, I think it's still a great show with a great
[0:42] guest in Jordan, but we didn't really know some of the more dark places that this would
[0:50] go, so we wanted you all to be prepared.
[0:54] Thanks.
[0:55] Bye.
[0:56] Hey everyone, welcome to the Flophouse, I'm Dan McCoy.
[1:02] I'm Stuart Willington.
[1:04] I'm Elliot Kalin, still against all odds.
[1:07] And you know, the premise of this show started out as, let's talk about bad movies.
[1:12] Yeah, let's dig back into prehistory, shall we?
[1:15] And now, every other week, we've been doing minisodes, minisodes, Flophouse minis, that
[1:23] have often been as long as other shows, which really confuse the premise, especially because
[1:28] there's no particular rhyme nor reason to the topics of the Flophouse minis, and let's
[1:34] keep it going.
[1:35] Tonight, we have a guest.
[1:38] Flawless introduction.
[1:40] You stated the thesis, you confused the thesis, and you discarded the thesis.
[1:45] The classic essay structure.
[1:47] Tonight, we have a guest, a writer and producer, Jordan Cruciola, who is from, I'm sorry, did
[1:55] I put too much spin on that last time?
[1:57] No, you got it.
[1:58] Not too much mustard on that at all.
[2:00] Okay, thank you.
[2:01] Of the Feeling Seen podcast on the MaxFun Network, among many other things, and she
[2:09] is here to talk about a topic of her own suggestion.
[2:14] Jordan, what do you want to speak with us about today?
[2:18] I am here to attempt to attempt to convey to you all the movie Georgia Rule, directed
[2:31] by Gary Marshall, starring Felicity Huffman, Lindsay Lohan, and Dermot Mulroney.
[2:40] No, no, no, the guy who's not Dermot Mulroney.
[2:43] No, according to Dylan McDermott.
[2:46] You're right.
[2:47] It's Dermot Mulroney because it's not Dylan McDermott.
[2:50] And Shane Fonda and Garrett Hedlund, inexplicably, from the year, I believe, 2012.
[2:59] I mean, it's multiple generations of acting legends.
[3:02] Dermot Mulroney, Garrett Hedlund, no one else.
[3:05] Of the Mulroney dynasty.
[3:08] And now this is Gary Marshall.
[3:10] I'm sorry, I was so wrong.
[3:13] This is, oh my God, 2007.
[3:16] Even better.
[3:17] We are in the thriving heyday of the aughts, 2007.
[3:22] And this is Gary Marshall of the holiday movies, right?
[3:26] This is Gary Marshall of the holiday movies of pretty woman, of overboard, of iconic fame,
[3:34] Gary Marshall.
[3:36] It's amazing how he's a director of so many movies, and yet, as a director, I still like
[3:40] him best as the casino owner in Lost in America.
[3:43] Yes.
[3:44] That's still my favorite thing he's ever done.
[3:46] Excellent, excellent.
[3:48] Now, this is a movie that we established.
[3:50] None of the hosts of The Flop House, the three of us, have seen.
[3:57] And, you know, we kept it that way, even though you were coming on to talk about it.
[4:04] Because I think something, aside from laziness, something appealed to us about, you know,
[4:09] sort of having to try and grapple with this thing that exists only in our minds.
[4:15] Yeah.
[4:16] And, Jordan, what is it about this movie that made you specifically want to highlight it?
[4:23] Well, I'm wondering if any of you ever, if you remember the trailer for, or if you've
[4:28] seen the trailer for this movie?
[4:31] I have no idea what this movie, like Georgia Rule, I...
[4:34] Yeah.
[4:35] Is it possible, is it possible to, we don't have to, but is it possible to request of
[4:40] each of you that you watch the trailer right now and have that as a foundation?
[4:44] I think it seems to, I mean...
[4:46] That's easily accomplished.
[4:47] Let's do it.
[4:48] Let's keep recording while we watch it.
[4:49] Yeah.
[4:50] We have to sync up, but...
[4:51] Just give yourselves, like, you know, the minute and a half, two minutes to watch this
[4:55] so that I can tell you what we're here for.
[4:58] Okay.
[4:59] So, on YouTube, there's a two and a half minute trailer.
[5:03] Oh.
[5:05] Goodness.
[5:06] Just says, if it says, Georgia Rule official trailer, number one, Hector Elizondo movie.
[5:11] Yeah, go for that one.
[5:12] Should I not, should I not click on Georgia Rule full movie?
[5:19] I mean, we can live watch in Mystery Science Theater this.
[5:23] Oh, the first, the first comment...
[5:26] Yeah, go for the Hector Elizondo one.
[5:27] That was the one I refreshed myself with earlier.
[5:29] A tragically underrated movie that is too often mistaken by the less...
[5:33] Yeah, don't, don't read that.
[5:34] Don't read that.
[5:35] Don't read that.
[5:36] No, you have, don't read that.
[5:37] Don't read any details about this.
[5:38] Okay.
[5:39] Don't get any more information yet.
[5:40] Just watch the trailer.
[5:41] Okay, guys.
[5:42] All right.
[5:43] Are we ready?
[5:44] Are we going to do this all at the same time?
[5:45] Let's do it all at the same time.
[5:46] Uh, let's, let's try and experiment so that the audience can also sync up and maybe watch.
[5:51] Yeah.
[5:52] Audience, look up Georgia Rule official trailer, number one, Hector Elizondo movie, 2007 HD.
[5:55] Yeah.
[5:56] Yeah.
[5:57] Hector Elizondo movie.
[5:58] Yeah.
[5:59] Okay.
[6:00] And, uh, this, and, uh, yeah, just sync it up with, uh, with this part and then get Dark
[6:01] Side of the Moon and then start, don't start playing it until we press play.
[6:04] Yeah.
[6:05] Because it syncs up perfectly with the trailer.
[6:06] And then if you start it at this moment, we can say happy new year at this time.
[6:10] I'm going to do a countdown and I'm going to, I'm going to, uh, do three numbers.
[6:16] You can probably guess which one and then I'll get to say go.
[6:19] Uh, and, uh, let's all click when I say go.
[6:22] How about that?
[6:23] You just said go.
[6:24] Should I have clicked?
[6:25] No, no, no, no, no.
[6:26] Okay.
[6:27] Let's do it.
[6:28] Uh, in three, two, one, go.
[6:33] Okay.
[6:34] So it's rated R for sexual content and some language.
[6:37] Hmm.
[6:38] Now.
[6:39] Wait a minute.
[6:40] So Jane Fonda's character's name is Georgia?
[6:48] That, yes.
[6:49] Georgia rule.
[6:50] Okay.
[6:51] So they said the Georgia rule.
[6:52] Georgia rule.
[6:53] Now the Georgia rule was a card playing rule, but is it related to other things also?
[6:57] It's pretty multi-purpose.
[6:58] The Georgia rule.
[6:59] Okay.
[7:00] Oh, Georgia's always made the rules.
[7:01] They said.
[7:02] Carrie always.
[7:03] Yeah.
[7:04] Carrie always just got hit with a baseball bat.
[7:07] Mm-hmm.
[7:08] Mm-hmm.
[7:09] I'll explain that.
[7:10] Hmm.
[7:11] Wait, a castle for Christmases, Carrie always?
[7:16] The one and only.
[7:19] So, so far we've seen Jane Fonda tell Felicity Huffman to attack Carrie always with a knife
[7:23] and then Lindsay Lohan threw a drink on a car.
[7:28] People keep saying Georgia rule.
[7:30] Yeah.
[7:31] But each time it's a different rule though.
[7:33] Yeah.
[7:34] It should be Georgia rules, but I guess they thought people would be like.
[7:36] Georgia rule TM.
[7:37] Georgia rules.
[7:38] Dr. Simon Ward.
[7:40] Yeah.
[7:41] So Lindsay Lohan's not getting a job, but a veterinarian.
[7:43] So they, they ripped off Schitt's Creek years ahead of Schitt's Creek.
[7:46] Mm-hmm.
[7:47] Mm-hmm.
[7:48] Okay.
[7:49] Everyone's spying on them, gardening.
[7:52] They're wrestling on the lawn.
[7:54] She says Georgia rule again.
[7:56] No fighting is a Georgia rule.
[7:58] Oh.
[7:59] It is.
[8:00] And it hose down in the street for that one.
[8:01] This trailer, we're a minute and a half in and already she, Georgia has said so many
[8:05] different rules.
[8:06] I don't know which one is the Georgia rule.
[8:08] You can see why Felicity Huffman had to flee her mother.
[8:11] Mm-hmm.
[8:12] Oh, there's drinking going on.
[8:18] Oh, yeah.
[8:20] Here's Dermot making out with Felicity.
[8:23] Felicity Huffman and Dermot are knocking over trophies as they make out.
[8:26] Mm-hmm.
[8:27] Uh-huh.
[8:28] Those trophies were earned by making out.
[8:31] He won the making out competition regional finals.
[8:34] Silver Fox, that man.
[8:35] He could have gone all the way national, but, okay.
[8:38] Jane Fonda's in it.
[8:39] Lindsay Lohan.
[8:40] A lot of hats.
[8:41] And Felicity Huffman.
[8:42] Okay.
[8:43] Okay.
[8:44] A woman called Lindsay Lohan a slut.
[8:50] Oh, Lindsay Lohan.
[8:51] And then she used, and Lindsay Lohan used a curse word, but there was a car that honked
[8:56] when she said the curse word.
[8:57] That is a sincerely funny scene.
[8:59] Okay.
[9:00] Well.
[9:01] So it says coming soon at the end.
[9:03] Is that true?
[9:04] Georgia rule.
[9:05] Is it still coming soon?
[9:06] Yeah.
[9:07] I mean, undiscovered as it is, it could be coming soon to the homes of many people near
[9:13] this podcast, I hope.
[9:14] So here's my understanding.
[9:15] Yeah.
[9:16] Dan, are you going to try to figure out what the plot is from the trailer?
[9:19] Yeah, I was going to try.
[9:21] I intuit that you as well were going to sort of.
[9:24] Yeah, but you go first.
[9:25] Go ahead.
[9:26] It seems to be some sort of, uh, multi-generational rom-com.
[9:31] And, uh, I think that maybe Felicity Huffman or perhaps Jane Fonda or perhaps both have
[9:37] some sort of issues with alcohol.
[9:39] That's, that's what I have sort of intuited.
[9:43] So is, so my guess is Lindsay Lohan is Felicity Huffman's daughter and Felicity Huffman is
[9:48] Jane Fonda's daughter.
[9:49] Correct.
[9:50] Which would make Jane Fonda Lindsay Lohan's grandmother.
[9:52] Yes.
[9:53] And Jane and Jane Fonda is always like, I got these rules.
[9:56] Here's my rule.
[9:57] That's my rule.
[9:58] And Lindsay Lohan seems to be in a troublemaker.
[10:00] as seen by the fact that she's expressed a healthy sexual interest in a man in the trailer.
[10:06] And none of the shirts she owns have midriffs.
[10:09] Yeah, that's a problem.
[10:10] We can credit 2007 for that for sure.
[10:13] And Felicity Huffman, I guess, here's my guess.
[10:16] Okay, she fled town because she had trouble with her mom and she couldn't make it there.
[10:19] She had to go to the big city.
[10:20] She raised Lindsay Lohan.
[10:22] Maybe either doesn't have a husband, maybe it was a sperm donor situation,
[10:25] or maybe she adopted Lindsay Lohan.
[10:27] Maybe Lindsay Lohan was dropped off at her daughter's...
[10:29] Maybe midichlorians.
[10:30] Yeah, maybe it's midichlorians.
[10:32] Maybe it's midichlorians.
[10:33] Yeah, using the wisdom of Darth Plagueis, Felicity Huffman was able to create Lindsay Lohan.
[10:38] I mean, or if it were like a basic, the man left situation.
[10:42] I guess we saw Carrie Always.
[10:44] So is he...
[10:46] So not having been able to figure out a lot of the trailer, I assumed he was like a salesman.
[10:51] But maybe he's a husband.
[10:53] He's the husband.
[10:54] Okay.
[10:55] He is the husband of Felicity Huffman's character.
[10:58] Okay, and Jane Fonda doesn't like him, which is why she hit him with a baseball bat.
[11:04] See, and here's the thing is, all these things are like...
[11:07] You guys have just described the movie that was advertised to you.
[11:10] Okay, sure.
[11:11] Here's the thing.
[11:12] Here's the thing about this movie.
[11:14] It's like, did you love the fish-out-of-water story that was overboard?
[11:21] Did you like the surprising rom-com that was Pretty Woman?
[11:25] We are going to add boner jokes to that and give you Georgia Rule.
[11:31] Where?
[11:32] The secret plot point.
[11:35] When this trailer says, the things that tear us apart.
[11:40] What they are referring to is the bombshell that Lindsay Lohan's character drops about a third of the way into the movie.
[11:48] That she's a wendigo.
[11:49] That she has been chronically raped by her stepfather since she was 12 years old.
[11:56] Yikes.
[11:57] The underpinning of Georgia Rule, the movie you just watched a trailer for, is that Lindsay Lohan's character is a ruckus and a rebel.
[12:06] And her mom and her stepdad just can't take it anymore.
[12:09] So Felicity Huffman is going to ship her off for the summer to Idaho to go be with her horrible heartbeat bitch of a mother, Jane Fonda.
[12:16] Who she had to flee from as a teenager because she was simply too restrictive and never said I love you.
[12:21] So Lindsay is getting a reform school summer with her grandma.
[12:24] And when we are there, Lindsay Lohan's character confronts Dermot Mulroney.
[12:28] Who has tragically lost his wife and child two years ago in a horrible accident.
[12:33] And she's like, you know what?
[12:35] We've all got shit to deal with.
[12:36] We get it.
[12:37] You're fucking sad.
[12:38] Your wife and baby died.
[12:39] You need to move on.
[12:41] And you're like, what the fuck are you doing Lindsay Lohan?
[12:44] And he's like, what do you know about survival?
[12:46] You don't know a goddamn thing.
[12:48] At which point at the 4th of July parade in Hull, Idaho.
[12:52] Lindsay Lohan over barbecue and burgers looks at him and says, my stepdad started having sex with me when I was 12 years old.
[13:01] And you're like, what fucking movie are we in right now?
[13:09] It definitely sounds like less of a romp.
[13:12] That's the thing though, my friends.
[13:14] Is this movie plays it like a romp the entire time.
[13:19] That kicky little Mandy Moore song playing at the end of that trailer.
[13:23] Where she's ready to feel extraordinary.
[13:26] Like that is the energy of this movie.
[13:31] When you see Jane Fonda running out of the house with a bat beating down Carrie Elwes.
[13:37] It's because she has learned that her granddaughter is a victim of sexual molestation.
[13:44] It's not like you get out of here, Carrie Elwes, you scamp.
[13:48] It's you pedophile, get the fuck out of my house and away from my family.
[13:53] It takes a way different tenor.
[13:56] It did seem to be sold to us as like wacky grandma with bat rather than justified anger.
[14:03] In that scene when Dermot Mulroney is having his world champion make out with Felicity Huffman.
[14:07] You see her hair short in that.
[14:09] It's because in a prior scene just before that, she had been drunk on the floor of her mother's house.
[14:13] Asking her why she could never say I love you.
[14:15] Blacked out in front of a half dozen bottles of alcohol and cut off her own hair that's sitting on the floor in front of her.
[14:20] Then she goes to Dermot Mulroney doctors, the guy she used to date when she was probably in high school.
[14:25] She is asking him for help getting off of alcohol.
[14:29] She's like I need whatever this anti-alcoholic or something that would make her sick if she drank.
[14:34] So they start making out after she looks at him and says how did I miss it?
[14:38] He goes people get busy.
[14:40] She goes no, how did I miss it about Rachel?
[14:43] He goes I don't know how you missed that.
[14:45] So then they fall into each other's arms after she says I don't know how I missed that my daughter was being molested by my husband.
[14:51] That is what tees up that make out.
[14:55] Now guys, I'm going out on a limb here.
[15:00] But I think no molestation is a pretty normal rule, right?
[15:04] That is like a hard and fast one.
[15:08] That seems a little bit more committed than dinner at 6 or you're not eating.
[15:12] Like this is this movie, this movie.
[15:17] This is even worse.
[15:18] It's even worse than when my sister and mom went to go see My Girl in the theaters.
[15:21] I was like was it fun?
[15:23] They were like he died.
[15:27] They went expecting a movie like a Bad News Bears movie but for girls.
[15:32] They were like yeah, he died at the end.
[15:34] The scene where you watch in the trailer where you watch Lindsay Lohan's character wrestling with a little boy on the ground.
[15:38] That wrestling match ends because Lindsay looks at the child and says oh my god, you're hard.
[15:43] And then grandma sprays them down with a hose because no fighting is a Georgia rule.
[15:49] And she jumps up and she's like what?
[15:51] He can like get a boner on my leg but like I can't like shove him off of me.
[15:56] So that happens in that also in that trailer.
[15:58] Jay Fonda goes you're a handmaid and you'll do what you're told.
[16:02] No, that's when she looks at the neighbors and says she was raised in California.
[16:05] So then at another point in that trailer, the voiceover man says three generations under one roof for a summer.
[16:12] Inaccurate.
[16:13] Lindsay Lohan's character is sent to live there for the summer.
[16:16] Felicity Huffman's character drops her off, spend one night, comes back weeks later and then spends like three nights reconciling with the truth of her daughter being a victim of molestation.
[16:27] Objection, objection, your honor.
[16:29] They didn't say how long the three generations were under one roof.
[16:32] They said for a summer.
[16:34] They say for the summer.
[16:36] For the summer.
[16:37] Three generations.
[16:39] Your honor, I believe they're talking about the summer of a soul, which who knows how long that could last.
[16:45] That could be true.
[16:46] And that's that scene on the boat where Garrett Hedlund's like rocking around and he like falls off.
[16:50] Well, the thing is, is his character is Mormon.
[16:52] And so when he starts making eyes at Lindsay Lohan and they're out on this boat together, she with her extremely frayed relationship between intimacy and sex and desire and self-worth, she like looks at him and is like, what do you mean you've never had sex?
[17:06] And like, well, I'm a Mormon.
[17:07] So she takes off her underwear and she's like, you want to see?
[17:11] And you're like, what the fuck is going on on this boat?
[17:13] And she just takes off her underwear and starts like opening her legs.
[17:16] So Garrett Hedlund cannot sensibly see her vagina.
[17:18] And then she's like, you can touch it if you want.
[17:21] So then he starts like very uncomfortably sliding his hand up her leg, at which point the camera just stays on Lindsay Lohan's face where she looks increasingly like she's going to cry because you're watching a victim of chronic abuse reconcile with the fact that she wants this man to like her in the only way she understands affection is sex.
[17:38] So then she claps her legs shut and is like my turn and then gives him a blowjob.
[17:43] So I guess what you're saying is Gary Marshall was not the artist with the right sensitivities to tell this tale.
[17:50] This is like what if we took the kookiness of New Year's Eve and added the most grave and harrowing emotional catalyst for a story you could put in a film.
[18:01] So what's and so what's your what's your tale of this?
[18:03] And what's your experience with this film?
[18:05] How did you come across it and how did how did you first?
[18:07] I just watched this trailer and was like, I love Lindsay Lohan.
[18:10] It's 2007.
[18:12] Felicity Huffman, definitely a thing at that moment in time with Desperate Housewives and Transamerica.
[18:18] Like she's she's in the zeitgeist.
[18:20] Jane Fonda, Eternal.
[18:22] And I was like, I will watch any Lindsay Lohan movie like that's where I'm at with this.
[18:26] And Hector Elizondo.
[18:28] To be fair, not mentioned in the trailer at all, but I should have known he was going to be in there because it's a Gary Marshall movie.
[18:34] Yeah, that's a very good point.
[18:36] Number one.
[18:38] I mean, that's the first rule.
[18:41] The first rule is Hector Elizondo is always he's always slightly off camera throughout the entire trailer and the entire.
[18:47] And I think I think Hector Elizondo in this movie plays like for some reason a Basque man who like makes it a point of being like I'm Basque and the doctor's like you can't lift anything because you have a hernia.
[18:56] And he's like, I have to lift.
[18:57] I'm Basque.
[19:00] And then like he's the best employee I've ever had.
[19:04] He lifts like a Basque.
[19:06] OK, I don't know this about the Basque people.
[19:08] This is also a pleasant element.
[19:12] I mean, it's not a stereotype I've ever been.
[19:14] I'm not I don't know too many stereotypes about the Basques, but that they're very good at lifting is not something that they are.
[19:20] They're in fact, like genetic imperative to lift, I guess.
[19:24] And so I mean, he's got a genetic imperative.
[19:28] I can't stop.
[19:29] I can't turn it off.
[19:30] He can't stop lifting.
[19:31] He's lifting right now, everybody.
[19:32] I'm watching him lift right now.
[19:33] And I wondered what was going on.
[19:35] And so I rented this movie and I put it on.
[19:38] And then when the molestation plot was introduced, I was a dog and then spent the rest of the movie trying to piece together the myriad tones that were being thrown at me for how I was supposed to process all this information.
[19:52] It is I have never I have never felt so blindsided by any screen media in my entire life.
[20:00] And I have watched a Serbian film like I have never well
[20:03] Yeah, you know going into a Serbian film what you get you didn't if they didn't they didn't know but can you really know?
[20:11] Had a rom-com trailer for a Serbian film
[20:18] I mean, so this is a public service. You're doing
[20:22] Basically warning people of this. Yeah, this is a Georgia rule awareness PSA
[20:27] It is it is so and like watch this is only the second because I watch it coming into this again
[20:32] And this is only the second time I have seen it because since I've watched it
[20:35] I've been too shocked to return to it and watching it was no less shocking now
[20:39] But at the very least I was like, you know
[20:42] What I couldn't see at the time is that everybody is giving a really good performance in this movie
[20:47] I was like, you know what? This movie is making me do really miss Lindsay Lohan as an actress
[20:52] God damn it. She would she was good and she's a star and like you watch it's like you were funny
[20:58] You had the timing and like somehow you are spinning
[21:02] Lemonade out of these gallows humor lemons that you are put in the middle of and that the scene where she confronts those girls that you
[21:08] Watch the thing the reason that scene comes up is because Garrett Hedlund decides
[21:13] he has to drive to his Mormon girlfriends Mormon University and tell her in person that he got a blowjob from a stranger and
[21:19] He's like I've got to be honest like I can't I can't just tell her this over the phone
[21:23] So Lindsay goes with him for some reason
[21:25] He thinks they should do this together and the his the girlfriend's friend like decides
[21:30] Her friends are gonna surveil him for the rest of the time this girl's in town
[21:33] Like he's not gonna be able to get away with anything. He can't see her
[21:36] He can't be around her the girls are surveilling
[21:38] So they fight like they make it a point of like every so often they see her in town
[21:42] They'll be like what they just like yell things at her
[21:44] So she finally like she is at a gas station. They call her out their car doesn't start
[21:50] She starts chasing them down in Garrett Hedlund's truck and they think she's gonna run them over and instead she gets out of the car
[21:56] And she starts like she tries to reconcile. She's like I get it
[21:59] Like message received. You don't have to worry about me. We're just friends. You can leave us alone
[22:04] Like it's totally cool. And the girl basically calls her a whore again. So Lindsey's like fine
[22:08] I tried to do this a nice way and that's when she's like if you do anything to me again
[22:12] If you talk to Harlan
[22:14] I am going to find every single one of your boyfriends and I'm going to fuck them stupid
[22:20] And it is in it is actually an excellently delivered line
[22:25] It is I was like, you know, even amidst this chaos. I'm buying this. I'm buying this line right now
[22:30] And yes use your sex positivity to say you will ruin these girls lives completely for it now
[22:36] So do you feel like when you're watching you're saying all the performances are great?
[22:39] And I believe you does it feel like they didn't quite realize
[22:44] That what kind of movie they were in like, do you think they thought they're like, nope?
[22:48] This is our ticket to the Golden Globes, baby
[22:53] Absolutely would be the Golden Globes and it feel like everybody feels like
[22:58] They are really they are really playing this script. Like it is it's fascinating to watch because like
[23:05] It feels like they did know but like maybe they thought the irreverence was gonna play as subversive
[23:12] Whereas it plays just like almost like almost like assaulting in how it is
[23:18] It's like it's like if somebody was if somebody said the words trigger warning assault to you while laughing
[23:25] Maniacally or like they handed you a Valentine card that said trigger warning for sexual assault
[23:30] Like that is like the combination of sensation
[23:34] I mean, there's there's something there's some something kind of like Cards Against Humanity about it
[23:39] So it's like kind of like funny and really good point. Yeah, that is an extremely
[23:44] this is a card if Cards Against Humanity was a movie in its
[23:48] Cacophony of intentions and tones it would be Georgia rule now
[23:53] Here's something that on Wikipedia this this makes me in some ways more interested in the movie because it shows the effort
[23:58] It says that uh, it was set in Idaho
[24:00] But apparently it was shot in Southern California and much of the scenery was created with CGI
[24:04] It says in Wikipedia who knows if that's true, but it makes me imagine that this scary Marshall's avatar
[24:09] Maybe like how many years was he working on this?
[24:12] Georgia's home is home tree and these are Navi and this is his avatar
[24:20] And this is the blowjob scene is a lot like what sticking your ponytail into a yeah
[24:27] Ponytail
[24:28] Connective tissue it is it is and like you can see from this like you watch the trailer
[24:34] It's it's I can't ever decide if it's better for people to because like because we're talking about it
[24:38] I wanted you guys to see the trailer first, but I couldn't I was thinking today
[24:41] Would it be better to tell people watch this movie and then watch the trailer or tell them to watch the trailer then watch
[24:46] The movie I can't decide if it would be better to set them up for the lie or make them
[24:50] Make them realize the lie that they were meant to buy after the fact
[24:54] I guess you gotta run it both ways and see what see what you what results you get
[24:58] You gotta run and then a control room that doesn't watch Georgia rule and watches a different Kerry Marshall movie
[25:03] Because clearly the studio had this in their hand and they're like we simply cannot tell people what this is about
[25:11] Cut like a sad version of the trailer first and they're like
[25:15] they had to it because like that scene where
[25:18] she wouldn't Felicity Huffman's like in a trailer when she's like
[25:21] There's a time when you would have thrown me out by my hair for drinking in the house and she's like I'm too old and
[25:26] So is your hair?
[25:27] That's like a harrowing moment where like that scene ends with Felicity Huffman so drunk
[25:32] She collapses in the living room and busts open her lip and her daughter and her mother have to carry her up
[25:38] The stairs because she's too belligerent to function like is a grave scene about how could I never have known?
[25:45] How could I never have realized and they cut it in the trailer as a gag?
[25:49] Like they were like how we we have no idea what to do. So let's just
[25:55] Tell them everybody that these are just normal jokes
[25:58] This this trailer reminds me of the trailer
[26:01] I mean in a different way
[26:02] I guess in a trip the trailer for the gray
[26:03] Where that led me to believe it was gonna be about a man who would fit who was having a fistfight with a wolf
[26:10] The last five seconds of the movie and until then it's just five men walking to death in the frozen north
[26:17] It's like the Green Knight is not not about a man walking to death also like I was sold
[26:23] I was sold somebody who was gonna ride on the shoulder of a giant not somebody who would turn down the opportunity
[26:28] And just be a hot loser who goes on a long walk. That's what's so great about it. He's a hot confused
[26:34] Loser, I there are so many hot loser men around me who don't know shit
[26:39] I don't like I don't know why that's cinema, but like very handsome
[26:42] Looked very pretty but like I was promised Giants and I got a drive-by of them. I was yeah, wait
[26:48] He didn't even ride the giant. What the fuck is this?
[26:53] Riding giant going. I mean you should go see the BFG. I guess the kid rides a giant like crazy
[27:05] This kid rides a giant like crazy
[27:08] The tagline this kid rides a giant like crazy
[27:11] This is this is a coming at an interesting turning point in Gary Marshall's career because his according to I'm looking at his credits now
[27:18] Three years before was his previous directorial effort. The Princess Diaries to royal engagement and then three years later is Valentine's Day
[27:25] So it does feel like perhaps
[27:27] Somebody quantum leaped into his body and decided to make a darker project in between what are two very fluff movies, you know
[27:35] This this might sound like very aggressive
[27:37] But it feels like it feels like the run of Georgia roll New Year's Day
[27:42] Valentine's Day is like elder abuse like guys we can give Gary anything
[27:47] Well, there's like we can get paid for writing or etc
[27:51] Producing a Gary Marshall movie and he doesn't know like it like it's so
[27:56] Fucking weird that it's like did Gary know did someone tell Gary?
[28:02] What if it's like how like, you know the thing where it's like I do one for the studio and then I do one for me
[28:07] Yeah, but which one was the one for Gary?
[28:12] Was this a blacklist script
[28:17] The way Eddie Murphy was like I'll do dream girls, but only if you fund Norbit and it's like wait, where are your priorities?
[28:23] But sorry, you're saying the screenwriter of this. I looked up the three prior
[28:29] Credits before Georgia rule are as good as it gets life as a house and divine secrets of the yaya sisterhood
[28:38] It feels like the this like Gary Marshall got someone else's mail like this
[28:50] No, that is that feels that that is perfect
[28:52] He like somebody got somebody else's mail and he just like he went for it
[28:56] and this is it's a fascinating time in the era of
[29:00] Lindsay Lohan because this is like
[29:02] Before this she's had like a little thing in Prairie Home Companion and that was I was like a Robert Altman film
[29:07] And so that was a big deal Herbie fully loaded came in 2005
[29:11] And I think that was kind of like the last gasp of her almost less gas before like I make kids movies
[29:15] Just my luck was similar to that as well
[29:17] But then there was Bobby and that was supposed to be this big on, you know
[29:21] Oscar Beatty ensemble thing that just sort of fizzled out. Oh, right through I forgot about that movie
[29:26] Yeah, yeah directed right Valentine's Day was about Bobby Kennedy's assassination
[29:33] Like let's put that intersecting
[29:35] Ensemble cast situation in here. I love the idea that Gary Marshall was up for that movie. He's pitching. He's like, all right
[29:41] It's Bobby Kennedy's assassination day. But what if it was on Valentine's Day?
[29:45] Yeah, but think of it as love actually, but on the day Bobby Kennedy beloved Bobby Kennedy was this
[29:50] I can anyone find love on the day that Bobby Kennedy is killed at the Ambassador Hotel to Gary. That's not the tone
[29:56] We're going for this. Well, I'll make Georgia rule. I'll show you I'll make Georgia rule
[30:00] all the tones you want to tell me about tone i'll show you tone i'm gonna make georgia rule
[30:04] and then in 2007 we get both we get both georgia rule and the lindsey lohan classic i know who
[30:13] killed me oh so this is a fascinating transition time for lindsey lohan in her career where she's
[30:19] like i think the rumors are starting to plague her she's starting to be seen as unreliable and
[30:23] irresponsible she's also being saddled as like oh lindsey loan's a lesbian because she dates sam
[30:28] ronson and that makes her a freak because it's 2007 and there's the very public blowing up of
[30:33] her family with her dad and so she's becoming huge tabloid fodder and so she's trying to make these
[30:39] like serious movies like become a serious genre film actress and something like i know who killed
[30:45] me which plays is like going for something wildly profound that just comes out as this incredible
[30:49] cornucopia of things and neil mcdonough's there and so is julia orman inexplicably and then you
[30:54] have georgia rule which feels like oh man felicity huffman jane fonda it's gary marshall and like
[30:59] it's a rom-com but not the rom-com you expect because there's this heavy detail and it feels
[31:04] like it's going for honestly a movie that feels like it could be made more successfully now like
[31:09] i feel like we are we've we've gone dark we've gone esoteric and there's a sort of blending of
[31:16] the mainstream and the art house in this way because of the proliferation of distribution
[31:20] platforms where it feels like something handled a bit more cannily like georgia rule could actually
[31:25] pull off like it feels like it is possible but at this time i think it was supposed to be
[31:30] this like edgy subversion of the genre that was going to be a great move for lindsey and ended up
[31:34] being just sort of another one in a string of things that felt like lindsey lohan can't carry
[31:38] a movie as a star because she's trouble when it's like or because it's georgia rule like or because
[31:43] it's i know who killed me and it's not her fault because she she was working with not good material
[31:48] this is 2007 is the same year that juno comes out and so i think you're right that it feels
[31:52] like it's like they're going towards this idea of like some kind of edgy you know controversial
[31:57] comedy but they then i don't even i don't even particularly like juno that much but it's it's
[32:02] more successful it sounds like this one is uh but there's also the possibility that the backers got
[32:08] too much investment for it and they figured if this movie fails we can just run away with all
[32:12] the money and we and we don't have and nobody nobody looks into the books of a failed movie
[32:18] right damn it's a it's a plot it's it's a con that can't lose right a perfect crime yeah you
[32:23] know what i i've never heard of this failing before so you've convinced me zero must tell
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[36:35] of our reoccurring mini episode structures which is miss that movie it's true this would be a time
[36:42] for us to decide whether or not we are sad we missed it glad we missed it or had to not miss it
[36:50] and we're gonna go watch it right now so dan which of those three do you feel uh well while i agree
[36:58] with our guests that uh lindsey lohan is a talented actor who unfortunately had a sort of a
[37:05] promising career uh derailed by a lot of tabloid stuff when it when it turns out felicity huffman
[37:11] was much more of a criminal than lindsey lohan that's the twist um i don't i don't think that i
[37:19] could i think i don't think i could stomach uh combining gary marshall with a plot that has a
[37:28] reveal of consistent uh sexual assault so i'm gonna say i'm glad i missed it okay okay uh yeah
[37:36] i would say i am obviously morbidly curious about it because of the i would encourage you all to
[37:43] watch this i mean i feel like i kind of need to now that i know yeah it's like if gary marshall
[37:47] and tracy let's made something together which i don't know how to work on the other hand i think i
[37:53] may have enjoyed it the best this way hearing jordan talk about it much like i don't the way
[37:57] i'm enjoying the way i prefer to receive the new sex in the city series is by hearing my co-workers
[38:02] complain about it right here i can like how i love watching gray's anatomy via people on twitter
[38:07] talking about gray's anatomy gray's anatomy is the most fun show to know nothing about
[38:12] and your catastrophically insane details just come up because like you're like well that can't
[38:18] possibly be the case there's no way but when somebody tries to tell you an out of context
[38:23] thing about gray's anatomy they're like okay i'm not going to explain the whole thing but like she
[38:26] has one leg there was a plane crash and then this happened and it's like wait what now like they and
[38:31] then like they have and they have married like it's always about the leg i'm like wow and they're
[38:35] like i remember hearing about like somebody like fucking blowing up on gray's anatomy like yeah
[38:41] the bomb squad had to come into the hospital and get the thing and then he blew up into like pink
[38:44] mist i was like and i thought pretty little liars was fucking crazy like wow guys favorite show of
[38:51] all time pretty little liars i love this so this is this is what it feels like i think when i'm
[38:59] trying to when i'm talking to dune with my family but i'm at dune with my family and then i'm like
[39:04] okay yeah he becomes a multi-thousand-year-old sand half-man half-sandworm and he has to be
[39:08] overthrown by a clone i don't i only know dune from the films i of course i'm aware of the books
[39:13] but like i've only ever watched the films and i was trying to explain i was trying to explain dune
[39:17] to somebody without explaining too much of dune to somebody to be like just like go see the movie
[39:21] and i like i remember like i just said the word arrakis and they were like wait who's arrakis and
[39:26] i was like we've already gone too far like you already want too much information like i i was
[39:31] really trying to not like put terms out there but it just like it was using it was like i was using
[39:36] the the word and the definition and people are like i don't know what the hell you're saying
[39:39] yeah and i was like i'm sorry i've said too much but by saying not enough i'm sorry yeah it was
[39:43] it was like you it was like when uh my wife and i were watching uh we're here the show where drag
[39:51] queens you know show up in queer eye uh small town and there was an episode where bob the drag queen
[39:57] was talking to a young uh
[40:00] queer kid whose idol was Dio Brando, the villain from the JoJo series, and Charlene's like,
[40:07] what is that?
[40:08] Wow.
[40:09] And I'm like-
[40:10] Stuart was so excited.
[40:11] I'm like, do you want to know?
[40:13] Because I can-
[40:14] Do you?
[40:15] Yeah.
[40:16] I can tell you all about it.
[40:17] Are you ready?
[40:18] You held out two pills and you said, if you take the red pill, I'll take you into JoJo.
[40:21] But if you take the blue pill, you can just forget this conversation ever happened.
[40:26] I admire Audrey's ability if I like, like, I will ask her if she wants to know, but then
[40:30] like I'll, once I'm explaining, I admire her ability to say, don't care, like, she's hit
[40:38] the wall.
[40:39] That's admirable.
[40:40] That's very admirable.
[40:41] Not everybody can do that.
[40:42] Yeah.
[40:43] See, Dan, you, unfortunately, you don't know the joy of having children, which is that
[40:45] they have to listen to you sometimes.
[40:50] And alternately, the not so much joy of having to explain all the Spider-Man movies while
[40:56] watching the newest Spider-Man movie to a seven-year-old who has seen none of the other
[40:59] ones and keeps calling Andrew Garfield, Andrew Jackson.
[41:02] Harsh, but fair.
[41:05] Yeah.
[41:06] So I'm going to say I'm probably, I'm probably going to keep missing this movie, but-
[41:13] You guys are, I mean, live a lesser life.
[41:15] Fine.
[41:16] I guess, like, live less fulfilled lives.
[41:18] That's your decision.
[41:20] This is really, I cannot, I have not done my duty sufficiently in life evangelizing
[41:27] Georgia Rule because people should participate in this, especially, like, again, as an incredible
[41:32] artifact of the, of the aughts, the messiest, I think, time perhaps in our pop culture history,
[41:38] this calamity of, like, chauvinism and faux feminism and incredibly, like, rigid gender
[41:44] binaries.
[41:45] Like, RuPaul's Drag Race is about to premiere in 2009 and it's like, oh, but, like, Obama's
[41:50] in the White House, but he doesn't like gay marriage yet.
[41:52] And so it's like this illusion of progress because we had Queer Eye and Ellen was on
[41:56] TV and so were Will and Grace, but at the same time, everything's homophobic.
[41:58] So, like, it's a nutso ass time in pop culture, which makes it feel like Georgia Rule is actually
[42:04] a perfectly indicative film of 2007.
[42:08] And interestingly, because it came out in 2007, there is a very real chance that in,
[42:13] like, a sliding doors moment, the early days of the Flophouse, we might have covered this
[42:18] movie.
[42:19] And I will totally tell you, the steward of that time period did not have the emotional
[42:24] depth to handle that kind of a twist.
[42:26] Yeah.
[42:27] Yeah.
[42:28] As a podcast, I'm glad we missed it.
[42:31] Yeah.
[42:32] Yeah.
[42:33] I think we're all better.
[42:34] It seems safer terrain to have missed it.
[42:36] I'm much happier that we did I Know Who Killed Me, which was more our type of thing that
[42:40] we could, that we could handle, you know.
[42:41] I mean, yeah.
[42:42] I mean, and on the on my podcast about the intersection of pop culture of the 2000s and
[42:48] millennium era horror films, we went so deep into the annals of I Know Who Killed Me.
[42:54] And we got the loveliest DM from the screenwriter of that who was like, I just wanted to say
[42:59] that, like, that movie was my first and as you might imagine, last job in Hollywood.
[43:05] And I just wanted to say that I really appreciate that you guys saw what I was trying to do
[43:09] with that film.
[43:10] Yeah.
[43:11] And we were like, we're here for you.
[43:12] We are the stand club of I Know Who Killed Me who is here for you.
[43:17] Absolutely.
[43:18] Like singular stuff.
[43:19] You can't you can't request cinema like that.
[43:23] It just has to come out of the ether like a gift, a jewel, a shining orb dropped into
[43:28] your hands.
[43:29] And you get to choose whether you appreciate it or let it go into the night.
[43:33] I feel like I know who killed me was the first episode Elliot was on.
[43:37] It was.
[43:38] Yeah.
[43:40] Wow.
[43:41] We're really charting the course of this podcast.
[43:42] It's a really it's a really important one in my in my personal history.
[43:47] Yeah.
[43:48] Hugely.
[43:49] And I just looking at I've so so many memories of watching it and being like, why does she
[43:52] have a robot hands now?
[43:54] Lindsay Lohan's first sex scene featuring two robot appendages.
[43:58] And we and we also did like a riff show where we we watched it live and told jokes.
[44:04] And I remember I remember seeing it on the big screen and being like, this movie is better
[44:09] than I remembered.
[44:10] Yeah.
[44:11] Yeah.
[44:12] I stand by what I said.
[44:13] If it was if it was in Italian, people would be like, oh, what a good movie or what it
[44:16] does with color.
[44:17] Oh, it's interesting.
[44:18] Yellow film.
[44:19] Yeah.
[44:20] No.
[44:21] If this were if this were pulled, if I knew who killed me was pulled straight from 1977
[44:25] and it had the name Bava next to it, people would be like, oh, my God, it's like dudes
[44:29] be masturbating or how amazing or even the same time it came out.
[44:33] And it was like a Nicholas Wendig Griffin movie.
[44:36] Yeah.
[44:37] Absolutely.
[44:38] As as a as perhaps the Neon Demons biggest fan, I couldn't think of a higher endorsement
[44:42] than that.
[44:43] Yeah.
[44:44] Yeah.
[44:45] No, no.
[44:46] Seeing it again.
[44:47] I kind of came around on the movie and I was going to say that, like hearing that the screenwriter
[44:49] had no further work would make me feel bad for our episode if if we had any control or
[44:58] influence over especially back then.
[45:01] We didn't.
[45:02] We still don't now.
[45:03] But we really didn't.
[45:04] But if that person somehow stumbles upon this, you know, I think I know who killed me.
[45:14] What's important?
[45:15] Hey, everybody was.
[45:16] And I think an important note about, like, the timing of which, like George Rule comes
[45:19] out and kill me, like sort of around the same around that exact same time is that, like,
[45:23] I remember going to see I know who killed me in theaters.
[45:25] And I remember when Lindsay Lohan's name popped up on screen, the other people in the theater
[45:28] started laughing.
[45:30] It was like a reflexive like they were there as a gag to watch a Lindsay Lohan train wreck
[45:34] because it was it was happening in her career at that time that that was how she's being
[45:38] received by people.
[45:40] So like this movie comes out and from what I remember, like an interview she's talked
[45:43] about, she speaks so warmly of like working with Gary Marshall and working with Jane Fonda
[45:47] and Felicity Huffman.
[45:48] Like it seems like the experience of making this was a really warm and positive one for
[45:51] her.
[45:52] But it was at this point where she was getting so saddled with stigma that it was becoming
[45:56] this perpetuating problem of like, you know, the more difficult people saw Lindsay Lohan
[46:00] as being, I'm sure the more easy it was to be maybe kind of shitty because you were resentful
[46:04] of how people were talking about you and treating you.
[46:06] So this is like a really fragile time in in her career.
[46:11] And so this movie being sort of as crazy as it is, feels like it's like, well, yes, I
[46:16] feel like that fits in line with the timeline of like how this person was trying to piece
[46:21] together the next step forward and sort of the odd range of material they were doing
[46:25] around this era.
[46:27] That was during that bad period when young women were just like anything they did that
[46:32] was was not was somehow scandalous that started in the 19 teens and continues to question
[46:37] mark, question mark, question mark.
[46:40] I feel like I feel like there's there's so many cycles of I've been thinking so much
[46:44] about because she's one day older than me, of how Britney Spears, when she like shaved
[46:49] her head and people were like, she's a mad woman.
[46:51] What's going on with her?
[46:52] And it's like looking back, that seems like not really worth putting on a newspaper or
[46:57] talking about, you know, like it's it's such a well, this was this was the and this is
[47:01] the era, too, when like it's just a couple of years before this that and I've talked
[47:04] about this before.
[47:05] But Lindsay Lohan is on the cover of Rolling Stone as their hot girl as the for their their
[47:08] annual hot issue.
[47:10] And you read that profile of her and I posted about it last year and I went on this kind
[47:15] of whole thing because it was it was around when like the I Am Paris documentary is coming
[47:17] out and the Britney documentary is coming out.
[47:19] We're starting to people who were in their formative years in the millennium era are
[47:23] starting to become the people who talk about history and the people who are sort of cementing
[47:26] that history and reevaluating it.
[47:28] And you look back at that profile and Rolling Stone was at its sort of like peak of the
[47:32] present, like 21st century zeitgeist at that time.
[47:35] It obviously had a heyday in the 70s when it was founded.
[47:38] But then in the 2000s, it was really hitting a zenith again in it, really capturing the
[47:42] de rigueur spirit of how we wrote celebrity profiles at the time, which was deeply snarky,
[47:47] deeply misogynist, really flippant, cruel and weirdly pervy.
[47:52] And like you read that that hot girl profile now in the first five paragraphs are about
[47:56] her boobs.
[47:58] They're about a girl who just turned 18.
[48:00] And they're about like a thing you might have noticed about Lindsay Lohan is that she's
[48:04] developed and I'm going to talk about the history of Disney stars developing.
[48:07] And this is when Annette Funicello got boobs in Beach Bake at Babylon.
[48:11] And it's like, like the writer who he was interviewed, like I started talking about
[48:16] this and the story started going around.
[48:17] Then a Washington Post journalist did a story about this profile and how we talked about
[48:21] women in the 2000s.
[48:22] And that writer, Mark Bellinelli, I think, he interviewed for the story and was like,
[48:28] I'm I've I read that and I did that at the time and thought it was like subversive of
[48:33] the way we talked about women.
[48:35] And I thought it was like a way of like breaking the standard of how we held them to like being
[48:40] children forever.
[48:41] He's like, but I read it now and it's egregious.
[48:43] Like I apologize that I did that, like to the point where a person writing something
[48:48] now like the very beginning of he says, like when I meet Lindsay Lohan, I like I like verify
[48:55] that her boobs are real.
[48:56] He says like by discrete fact checking, a.k.a. looking at her tits and quote, a goodbye hug.
[49:03] It's like, oh, good.
[49:04] I'm glad you were scoping out the 18 year old girl's boobs by giving her a, quote, discreet
[49:09] goodbye hug on your way out the door.
[49:10] I'm guessing it wasn't that discreet.
[49:11] Yeah, probably.
[49:12] I think in his mind, it was discreet, but you know what?
[49:16] The hallmark of discretion is publishing an article where you say it afterwards.
[49:20] So, you know, like this is the era and that was and I fucking loved Rolling Stone at that
[49:25] time.
[49:26] I subscribed.
[49:27] I ate up those articles.
[49:28] The profile of Jessica Simpson by Vanessa Gregoriadis was just like too mean.
[49:32] And I was like, this is cruel and awful.
[49:33] And I hate it.
[49:34] The housewife of the year cover.
[49:35] But like, I loved that.
[49:37] And that magazine did that tone.
[49:39] It like snatched it from FHM and Maxim magazine and did it better than any of the other glossies.
[49:43] Like their celebrity profiles were definitive.
[49:46] And that was like, I mean, we enjoyed that shit at the time.
[49:49] And this is what you have to contend with.
[49:51] Like, fuck, that is nuts.
[49:52] That is cultural.
[49:53] Yeah.
[49:54] Nuts.
[49:55] Madness.
[49:56] I talk about this stuff a lot.
[49:58] I'm really like heads in this era.
[50:00] I mean, luckily, all those problems are solved, which is why we can look back on it.
[50:04] Yeah, thank God!
[50:05] Thank God that 15 minutes ago, we said no more, and then we fixed it.
[50:08] Otherwise, there'd be a lot to be worried about.
[50:10] I'm so glad that we made that decision to stop doing that.
[50:13] Yeah, I'm so glad we stopped doing that, and we don't carry any memory or weight of it or baggage from the past.
[50:18] It's just all dissolved, you know?
[50:20] Otherwise, we'd have a lot to reckon with.
[50:22] Yeah.
[50:23] Shit.
[50:24] Something to talk to our therapists about.
[50:26] Yeah!
[50:27] We're fresh out.
[50:28] We're fresh out of things.
[50:29] No need to.
[50:31] Yesterday, you were just telling me that your last time with your therapist, they were like,
[50:35] do you want to talk about that Rolling Stone thing?
[50:36] And you're like, I think I got it.
[50:38] I think we made amends.
[50:40] I think I've coped.
[50:41] Yeah.
[50:43] But thank you guys so much for giving me the forum to discuss Georgia Rule.
[50:47] What a treat.
[50:48] I hope you have had as much fun as I have tonight.
[50:51] Jordan, already you're better at hosting our podcast than us.
[50:55] So Jordan, what would you like listeners to take from you and look out for next?
[51:02] What would you like to plug?
[51:04] I would absolutely like to plug the new podcast, the podcast that brings me here today on the Maximum Fun Network.
[51:09] It is Feeling Seen, where you mentioned we're here, and we actually had Eureka O'Hara on the pod to talk about feeling represented by Drew Barrymore's performance of Josie Groce in the movie.
[51:23] Never Been Kissed.
[51:24] Sure.
[51:25] Each episode I have on a different person, and I ask them about where they have found representation or a mirror for themselves in films.
[51:32] And sometimes that's one character.
[51:34] Sometimes it's several characters.
[51:35] We have an upcoming episode where it was unexpected, but the actor picked the character they had just played in a movie, and we talked about what it is to embody, to be these vessels of being an avatar of representation for other people.
[51:50] So it's me wanting to just sort of have as much as I can get people to buy into the premise and have emotional or vulnerable conversations with me while also trying to have as much fun with them as possible.
[52:00] I think we're doing a really good job, and I think people would really like it.
[52:03] So it would be super if you could check the Feeling Seen pod out.
[52:06] And I have a handful of others, a disaster movie podcast, Disaster Girls, the horror movie podcast, Otzterion.
[52:12] I do a lot of talking.
[52:13] You would have so many hours of me talking.
[52:18] And I'm looking forward to the invitation to have me on to talk about Salacious Crumb in Return of the Jedi.
[52:22] Hey! Salacious B. Crumb!
[52:25] Dan's going to say, like, fucking Wonder Boys or some shit.
[52:31] Yeah, I was like, Charlie Brown, Eeyore, which one would be – anyway.
[52:38] Salacious B. Crumb, Icon.
[52:40] Oh, yeah. He's both pet and employee.
[52:42] That's what's so amazing about him to me.
[52:45] Rare intersection.
[52:48] So let's put a cap on it.
[52:52] Let's send it off to bed.
[52:54] And by send it off to bed, I mean me and Stuart on the East Coast.
[52:59] Yeah, Georgia Rule, off to bed, guys.
[53:03] Sweet Georgia Rule dreams tonight.
[53:07] I'll have these goofy dreams that will be interrupted by something horribly tragic.
[53:13] And then hear a Mandy Moore soundtrack along with that to marry it all together into the Georgia Rule.
[53:18] Yeah, well, that's every dream.
[53:19] That's my white noise machine.
[53:23] Thank you for being with us.
[53:25] Check out MaximumFun.org for many other great podcasts, including Jordan's.
[53:30] Thanks to Alex Smith, our producer, for making us sound good.
[53:35] For The Flophouse, I've been Dan McCoy.
[53:38] I've been Stuart Wellington.
[53:40] I've been Stuart Wellington.
[53:42] I apologize for being Elliot Kalin.
[53:45] And Jordan, you have been.
[53:48] And I have been Jordan Cruciola.
[53:51] Bye.
[53:52] Bye.
[53:58] MaximumFun.org.
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Author and host of Max Fun's very own Feeling Seen podcast, Jordan Crucchiola, joins us to talk about Georgia Rule, the film she claims has the largest discrepancy between what the viewer expects the movie to be and what it actually is.

CONTENT WARNING: includes references to sexual assault, a surprising element in the film's plot that certainly took us off guard, so we don't want you to have to experience the same surprise, if you're not up for it.

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