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FH Mini 48 - A Trip Down Memory Lane with Nukie, featuring Erik Marcisak

mini Episode #385 Feb 5, 2022 00:51:58
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[0:00] Hello, welcome to the Flophouse Mini.
[0:07] That's right, it's the Flophouse, but it's a slightly smaller episode.
[0:10] It's just the length of a normal podcast episode and not one of our normal extra-sized, which
[0:15] is for us, regular-sized episodes.
[0:17] And so, to wrap up, just to remind you, the Mini is regular-sized, which is smaller than
[0:22] our normal episodes, which are bigger-sized than regular podcasts.
[0:26] I'm Elliott Kaelin, your not-complicated-at-all host, and joining me are my regular co-hosts...
[0:31] Dan McCoy.
[0:32] Oh, and right over here, it's Stuart Wellington.
[0:36] And joining us today is a very special guest, a luminary of the video game scene, but you
[0:41] probably know him best for his important role in the secret origins of the Flophouse, the
[0:47] person who created the comedy space through which Dan and I first met and became bestest
[0:53] buddies.
[0:54] That's right, it's Eric Marcizak, former New York comedy impresario, current Canadian video
[0:59] game impresario.
[1:00] Whew, okay.
[1:01] That was the sound of...
[1:03] This is my first podcast, so I've never been on a podcast, so I'm very happy to be here.
[1:08] Okay, Alex, loop in a fucking bottle-popping sound effect back there.
[1:12] It was awesome, it looked great, it didn't make a lot of noise, though.
[1:16] Yeah, it didn't make a lot of noise on the, well, maybe, I don't know, maybe...
[1:20] Eric popped a bottle of champagne, but it appears to be a screw-top bottle of champagne
[1:23] rather than a cork, so...
[1:25] No, I popped it off the way you're supposed to, right, Stuart?
[1:28] I don't know if you saw it.
[1:29] It didn't go flying across the room.
[1:30] You did it perfectly.
[1:31] It just didn't cause a lot of sound, that's why I'm telling Alex, make sure to loop it,
[1:34] make it sound insane.
[1:36] I want people to be wondering if there's an earthquake happening in their town when they
[1:40] hear this.
[1:41] The correct way to do it, Eric, in the future, the correct way to pop a champagne cork is
[1:44] to shoot it into Jessica Biel's eye during the mid-credits scene at the end of a very
[1:50] bad movie.
[1:51] Oh, yeah.
[1:52] There's a little asterisk, and then there's a little box that that asterisk leads to,
[1:55] which is, see the last episode, accidental love, aka, nailed, smile and stand.
[2:00] Oh, I actually got the reference, because it's a weird thing.
[2:02] I love this show, I just want to say.
[2:04] I've been listening to it forever.
[2:05] I'm going to take a sip, though.
[2:08] Since you kind of get credit for creating it.
[2:11] I don't think so.
[2:12] I don't know about that one.
[2:13] Thank you, Eric, for not running with that all the way to the courts.
[2:16] I love the show, and I've expressed it to Dan several times, I think.
[2:20] Stewart, probably not so much, because we don't see each other at all.
[2:23] We're kind of like, yeah.
[2:24] Ironically, you don't tell me much, Eric, and we talk every few weeks.
[2:28] No, you and I vent about just how horrible it is to be just writing and be in this business
[2:32] that just wants to eat your soul all the time.
[2:34] Yeah, that's true.
[2:35] We do talk about that a lot.
[2:36] Well, Eric, to explain to listeners who may not know the secret origins of The Flophouse,
[2:41] Eric, for many years, ran comedy spaces in New York, one in particular, which was called
[2:50] Juvie Hall, underneath the Gene Frankel Theater on Bond Street.
[2:53] This is after we had left the place that we had gone to after leaving Show World, the
[2:58] Pornhouse, where Eric first began his comedy producing career.
[3:04] We can't just speed over it.
[3:07] Eric ran a space called Above Kleptomania that was a theater above Show World, which
[3:13] was one of the few remaining sex, I guess, live sex shows and porn places in New York.
[3:20] By the time we were there, I don't know if it was a live peep show.
[3:24] I think they just had video booths.
[3:25] It had video booths.
[3:26] It was basically a place where they had, Giuliani came down with this rule on all these sex
[3:32] entertainment places in Times Square, and he said a percentage of this place could be
[3:36] used for this horrible stuff of just basically a closet where a guy could watch a video clip
[3:41] and jerk off to it.
[3:44] But there had to be a percentage of the space that had to be dedicated to a legit business,
[3:47] so they would have souvenirs.
[3:49] I also want people to know, outside of New York, everybody's got a closet in their home
[3:56] where they watch pornography and just jack off onto the floor, and then a stranger comes
[4:00] and cleans it.
[4:01] Well, in New York, you actually have to rent that.
[4:03] Because your apartments aren't big enough.
[4:04] You don't have the closet space.
[4:05] Yeah, exactly.
[4:06] If the closet is big enough to jerk off in, it's technically a bedroom in New York, and
[4:09] you can rent it out.
[4:11] And now, this show world had some very frightening circus-themed decorations, and also some of
[4:17] the least accurate posters on the walls.
[4:20] I remember there was one of Times Square that said, like, Times Square in 1942, and there
[4:24] was a big poster for The Third Man, a post-World War II movie.
[4:27] So that could not have been 1942.
[4:30] And there was a poster that just was a picture of Frank Sinatra that said, The Golden Age
[4:33] of Jazz on it.
[4:36] We're really going on a tangent, but Elliot, that's one of my glorious memories of hanging
[4:39] out with you while waiting for another show to finish, was just looking at this stupid
[4:43] poster and how wrong it was.
[4:46] And so, my favorite memory of us performing at Show World was when I and my former sketch
[4:51] partner, Brock Mahan, used to perform as The Hypocrites.
[4:54] We had very small audiences.
[4:55] Often, it would just be like a family member of mine and then some rando who thought the
[5:00] girls were going to come out at any moment and start taking their clothes off.
[5:03] And one time, my grandmother, who at the time was in her early 80s, maybe, or late 70s,
[5:10] it must have been her late 70s, was there with my mom and my sister, and they went to
[5:14] see the show.
[5:15] And then we were standing under the marquee afterwards before going our separate ways,
[5:19] and we heard a couple walk by, and the woman turned to the man and said, This place looks
[5:22] too tame for us.
[5:23] I think that's something that my grandmother was a patron of, the photographic part of
[5:28] it.
[5:29] Imagine the history that your grandmother has seen and that she then got to go to Show
[5:33] World to watch you perform.
[5:35] And she did, I mean, not to go on a tangent on a tangent, but my grandmother did meet
[5:41] with many illustrious people.
[5:42] She told me many times about the dinner party she was at where she sat next to Jackson Pollock's
[5:46] art agent and tried to press him to admit that Jackson Pollock's work was garbage, that
[5:52] she kept saying, Come on, you admit it.
[5:54] It's not real painting, right?
[5:55] Admit it.
[5:56] It's a bit.
[5:57] And the man whose job was to sell Jackson Pollock's paintings to galleries did not bite
[6:03] the bait on that one.
[6:04] Did he admit it?
[6:05] Anyway, Eric eventually moved to this other theater space, Juby Hall, where Dan and I
[6:09] first met, and we all performed comedy there for a while.
[6:11] Not Stuart, he was too cool for that.
[6:13] But Stuart was a patron there, if I remember correctly.
[6:15] I don't know when you moved to New York, Stuart.
[6:18] Was that...
[6:19] Yeah, I was around then.
[6:20] I feel like I either went to go see Dan perform there or I went with Dan to see Elliot's show.
[6:29] But no, I wasn't a performer because I had not gotten over, I was still a coward and
[6:35] didn't like to perform in front of audiences.
[6:39] But Stuart was very kind to come either way, because, you know, this was not, you know,
[6:47] Eric, no, no, you know, no insult to you, who has launched many great comedy careers,
[6:55] and Sarah Schaefer and Matt Kauf and various folks went through the whole...
[7:01] But this is not the high end of New York comedy that we're talking about.
[7:06] This is, yeah, a small basement black box theater.
[7:10] One can imagine, I guess, that since the last theater was literally in a sex shop, that
[7:16] this was a step up, but we were not rocketing straight to the top.
[7:19] It was...
[7:20] Even though literally it was a step down.
[7:21] It was below ground.
[7:22] Below, yeah.
[7:23] No, it was...
[7:24] I mean, like at that time, that was a crazy time of comedy in New York City.
[7:28] There was the UCB theater, there was another one, there was a pit, there was all these
[7:31] other theaters that were kind of competing for people and classes.
[7:35] Most of them wanted you to kind of join their cult and pay $300 so that you could learn
[7:39] how to do stuff.
[7:40] And so, Eric, would you say that yours was either the...
[7:42] Was yours either the friendliest theater or the least successful cult?
[7:46] I'd say the least successful cult, because I did not charge any money for anybody to
[7:52] pay for any classes, so it's probably...
[7:55] And readers of...
[7:56] Was it the Post or the Daily News may remember that Eric is notorious as the man who was
[7:59] quoted in the paper as saying, Lorne Michaels is an old man who needs to step aside and
[8:03] leave...
[8:04] You know, I was...
[8:05] Still hasn't done it.
[8:06] All right.
[8:07] He hasn't.
[8:08] He hasn't.
[8:09] Yeah, I was...
[8:10] Any day though.
[8:11] Any day.
[8:12] He's going to.
[8:13] Yeah, no, I...
[8:14] And this caused a furor in which the Upper Citizens Brigade took to the message boards
[8:18] to lambast Eric in a real example of all these comedians standing up for the biggest man
[8:24] in television comedy.
[8:25] Yeah, and he's fucking caping for Saturday Night fucking Live.
[8:28] Jesus.
[8:29] Yeah, it was a real, real admirable case of the most successful alt-comedy theater supporting
[8:36] the most successful sketch comedy show in American history against a tiny downtown theater.
[8:44] Brave stuff, brave stuff.
[8:48] You can't paint us and me and the show that we were doing as like totally innocent.
[8:55] I had a show called Saturday Night Rewritten that was literally like, we're going to watch
[9:00] Saturday Night Live and then the next day we're going to basically be inspired by what
[9:03] they did and write a whole new show in less time.
[9:06] And it could be almost as funny.
[9:09] I think it was funnier.
[9:10] It was certainly less professional, but I think often it was funnier than the show the
[9:13] night before.
[9:14] Yeah.
[9:15] Saturday Night Live?
[9:17] History's least funny show that I've watched every episode of?
[9:20] Yeah.
[9:21] I do think that it was part of the problem was the framing of the show made it seem much
[9:28] more like we were just taking Saturday Night Live sketches and tweaking and rewriting which
[9:33] we were not.
[9:34] The sketches themselves were all new sketches.
[9:36] It was, yeah, it was a completely new show that was vaguely inspired by SNL in the same
[9:40] way that an improv scene is inspired by a word from the audience.
[9:46] But like a full disclosure, like, you know, a hundred years later, the name was on purpose.
[9:56] The explanation of the show was on purpose to kind of get audience members.
[10:00] the door the interview of course the interview that I did where I called
[10:03] Lorne Michaels a grandpa who should retire which I
[10:06] think he was about 20 years ago still but well now he's a mummy who should
[10:10] retire but you were just being a provocateur
[10:14] yeah I was being a young asshole who was trying to
[10:17] get more butts in the seats and like maybe be like hey
[10:21] this guy thinks he's you know he's you know like an
[10:24] asshole like it was a total get it was a
[10:28] gamble you were a you were a sketch comedy disruptor yeah yeah and you were
[10:31] hoping that day would come where the lights would go up and there was just
[10:34] clapping and there's one person in the seats and it's Lorne Michaels and he
[10:36] said well the gauntlet has been thrown down a worthy competitor
[10:40] yeah well well but that being the case uh people should have
[10:44] uh taken you about as seriously as I always took you which is
[10:47] not that much uh so uh but this is episode is not just about Eric's career
[10:53] as a comedy provocateur uh really bar none uh
[10:58] with non-parallel or this is we're eric is here because
[11:02] another thing that eric really uh stoked in us although I think he wasn't the
[11:06] first stoker but certainly he was uh brock stoker was
[11:09] one of the early yeah bram stoker was a very early certainly
[11:12] yeah yeah and stoker the movie which actually came later than the
[11:16] events
[11:19] well once you once you introduce strokers there's a whole history that
[11:22] goes back to the party uh so but uh eric is also a bad movie
[11:28] connoisseur and eric uh we were talking about before the show
[11:32] you and I about talking about some of our memories of being
[11:35] maybe over eager bad movie connoisseurs and one movie in particular
[11:39] that uh that we glommed on to yeah the movie is new as someone as someone who
[11:43] used to as someone who used to go to video stores and buy use tapes that
[11:47] looked like to be bad movies right maybe maybe it's my age or whatever
[11:50] and I'm looking back and I'm and it's also it's this
[11:52] convergence of being old wondering why I still like bad movies
[11:57] and wondering why I also devote my time to like listening to you guys
[12:00] every episode wait a minute dude hold on no but just hold on really
[12:06] thinking about don't give us the lauren michaels treatment come on
[12:09] you guys should all retire don't disrupt this podcast I gotta go text the UCB
[12:13] theater come beat you up oh my god they will if I step inside oh
[12:17] wait they don't exist anymore burn oh wow I mean I live too I mean you
[12:21] didn't your theater I didn't end it long before theirs did but yeah I know I
[12:25] ran away you literally went over the when it over
[12:28] the boundary to another country I had to I got so scared of
[12:31] certain people I just had to run I had to go on the run
[12:34] uh no so thinking about all this kind of stuff I still
[12:38] because I guys I like I said I don't think I finished the thought but I love
[12:42] this show I love I love it and I used to be a fan
[12:44] that used to be like oh I see the title of what they're
[12:47] watching let me watch the movie and then listen to what they have to say
[12:51] and then I kind of over time evolved to the point of just like
[12:55] I just like what they say like what you guys are talking about
[12:58] and and I think it's that communal feeling
[13:02] that I've chased throughout my life with bad movies
[13:06] and there's something about it that I find fascinating and you guys
[13:10] provide that little like hour and a half two hours
[13:13] longish or whatever sometimes more sometimes more
[13:16] like once a once a week that I get even with the guests and the mini episodes
[13:20] like it's still like I like hanging out with you guys
[13:22] even though it's all one-sided like I don't think I've spoken to Stuart
[13:26] since pre-pandemic no probably a wedding or some other function yeah
[13:31] I think yeah maybe at a live show we kind of like cross paths but then like
[13:34] damn occasionally we email and Elliot we we chat we talk on the phone but yeah
[13:39] so uh so Eric it's a but it's bad movies are
[13:42] no longer the the the glue of your social life that
[13:46] they once were no they're not but and I'm what is the
[13:50] glue of your social life now yeah he's a parent he doesn't have a
[13:54] parent I have nothing I have nothing but you guys
[13:57] it's one way conversation for me it's booze I mean it's pretty simple
[14:02] for me and for glue weirdly like I have a glue making class
[14:07] and so Eric so you're talking about Nuki there's this one particular movie that
[14:11] that is a that was a big one for Eric and me and and also Eric and and
[14:16] other friends of ours but uh it's a movie that was mentioned
[14:18] in I think multiple speeches at your wedding
[14:21] Eric yeah um so tell us about tell us about Nuki we can make this an
[14:24] unofficial miss that movie even though I've seen this movie several times
[14:27] well my question is Dan and Stuart have you guys seen it
[14:31] uh I I have not seen it I've seen Elliot's presentation on Nuki
[14:35] probably eight to ten times yeah that makes sense yeah I used to do this
[14:39] presentation so many times and the message of Elliot's presentation is
[14:43] don't watch the movie and I tell you every time I've seen him do it
[14:48] like three people come up to me afterwards and they're like man I gotta
[14:51] watch Nuki I'm like you weren't listening to you I don't
[14:55] even want your take on Fight Club now
[15:00] I don't care if you like the Chinese ending more where they arrest him at the
[15:04] end I gotta say that's that's it's quite a
[15:08] choice it's a twist that I was not expecting
[15:10] I'm impressed well learning learning in these past week
[15:13] this past week or two that that China often will I guess
[15:16] end movies with a text screen that just says everyone was arrested it turned out
[15:20] okay that's the way that Unbreakable that's
[15:22] the end of Unbreakable baby so we got the we got the Chinese edit of
[15:26] Unbreakable in the theater which master of twists himself I think
[15:29] he can appreciate it game recognized game so uh Eric tell us
[15:35] about Nuki what's what's give us the basic facts
[15:37] ah okay so we start on a tracking shot it's in
[15:42] I don't think we can go into that we can go into that much
[15:44] let's get the weeds here boys it's a tracking shot in Long Island City
[15:48] oh one Fred Durst is walking down the street his hat backwards
[15:53] and he's walking I think you're I know Eric I think you're thinking about the
[15:56] time of the video for Nuki not not not right I'm sorry about that
[16:01] uh no Nuki so Nuki was this weird movie that I
[16:05] found uh at the time there were in New York
[16:09] City there was a lot of mom-and-pop VHS stores that were going out of business
[16:12] that were like just closing down and they had the
[16:15] seller stocks would be like five movies for 20 bucks
[16:18] and you'd look at these covers and you're like what the hell is this shit
[16:20] so you put it on one time and it was just watching it at home and it was
[16:24] it's basically a knockoff of ET somehow learning now like looking at the
[16:29] information now it was filmed in South Africa like it's a South African
[16:33] production so it's kind of a knockoff of trying to do that and it was
[16:38] until this South Africa not not before the end of the bad times in South
[16:42] Africa right so not after it was but yeah it was
[16:45] before the end of the bad times it was it was it was a time when you really
[16:48] didn't want to be affiliated with South Africa
[16:50] right and so it's basically like a it's a story of two brothers that get
[16:55] separated and one is captured by NASA
[16:59] and the other one is aliens it's yeah that's a key point to them
[17:02] key point yeah i would describe them first as aliens brothers second
[17:06] brother right they would say brothers brothers first and
[17:10] not aliens at all because yeah they see the earth people as aliens
[17:13] because they're on the other planet yeah oh i guess that makes sense because
[17:16] they're they're just normal right and we're the aliens
[17:20] yeah they show up it may it doesn't it never makes sense in movies when aliens
[17:23] show up we're from outer space no they're from home we live in outer
[17:26] space to them yeah i mean actually everybody's in outer
[17:29] space we just happen to be sitting on this rock you know that's a very good
[17:32] point very good point money is all made up do you ever think
[17:35] about this like it just has the value that we put on hold on
[17:38] dan i have a picture of a of a chimp wearing a hat i really want to sell you
[17:43] for a million dollars okay well if that million dollars is made
[17:46] up i mean who cares you should just it's true yeah just give it to me it's not
[17:50] real money oh man eric's room got really cool yeah
[17:54] i i have this i have this for work uh just anytime like the conversation gets
[17:59] really like college drugged out kind of petty i just
[18:02] i go back to a dorm where it's got bob marley
[18:05] on the wall you know there's what yeah like across the universe movie poster
[18:08] yeah no frame doesn't need a frame why would you
[18:11] put a frame on the poster no frames aren't real let's just let
[18:14] that the poster wants to be free is that a is that a tapestry on the
[18:18] ceiling or is that just another movie poster
[18:20] garden state right next to it oh wow that's really cool
[18:23] probably something of uh some mountains oh and is uh is
[18:27] dan sitting on a hamburger grill
[18:31] of uh the singing that guitar hamburger from uh better off dead right yeah
[18:35] yeah this is a that's a scene that lives in my brain
[18:39] you know i i much like uh bernstein and uh
[18:43] citizen kane i don't think a month goes by that i don't think about that scene
[18:46] from better off dead where hamburger sings for no reason you saw
[18:49] that claymation hamburger for just a couple minutes he didn't see you at all
[18:52] yeah yeah but a month doesn't go by uh so uh eric nuki and nico they're
[18:56] brothers from space one lands and one's captured in america the other lands in
[18:59] africa right right and so it's really about them
[19:03] trying to connect with each other or get back
[19:06] together so that they can kind of like be with
[19:08] each other and then kind of leave the earth because it's pretty
[19:12] dangerous and fucked up and there's one so the one brother that's
[19:17] at nasa is just getting like studied by nasa and getting pumped with
[19:21] drugs and there's a drama there and he's in the u.s
[19:25] and the other one is in africa who befriends like
[19:28] a tribe and it's really weird but they try to meet each other and in the
[19:34] end the happy ending is of course they meet each other
[19:37] and they take a talking chimp with them there's also a chimp that they can well
[19:43] because nuki can talk to animals nuki has a bewildering variety of powers
[19:47] he can freeze people with his mind he can change the weather he can talk to
[19:50] animals but he spends a lot of the movie just kind of like with his head
[19:53] and his hands not knowing what to do and like a lot of that sounds like a lot of
[19:56] those powers seem easily uh represented on film with
[20:00] a lot of money. I think you'd be correct. Yeah, it is. And Miko, on the other hand, his brother,
[20:07] he can he can leave the lab where he's being tortured on his own will. He keeps leaving and
[20:13] then walking back in again, which is confusing. See, that is a detail I've already started to
[20:19] delete in my head. He like walks out of the chamber they kept in and has a conversation
[20:23] with the computer for a long time and then walks back in again. Yeah. You know, like, just go,
[20:27] Miko, just go. Now, what I recall from the Nuki presentation that, again, I've seen several times
[20:32] is that one or both of the aliens is very snotty, that there's a lot of. Yeah, Nuki constantly has
[20:40] he constantly has snot dripping out of his nose. Yeah. And this is not done. Eric, it's not done
[20:45] comically, right? It's not comedically. It's just no, I think he's suffering from the environment
[20:49] or he's got like a cold or something. But it's just it's it's always it's a thing that they
[20:53] had to have somebody on set be like, oh, it's dried up. Let's spray more nose snot ooze coming
[20:59] from the nose. That's not really highlights the character design of them having very enormous
[21:05] upper lips like. Right. Like they look kind of like the Grinch or like when Sam Elliott
[21:09] shaves off his mustache and you're like, what is going on here? Or like when you look at Bruce
[21:13] Willis and you realize just how much space is between his nose and upper lip, which is quite a
[21:16] bit like. Yeah. If I recall, they kind of look like the the exact midpoint between, say, E.T.
[21:24] and a big turd. Like, yeah, yeah, very much so. Yeah. Like an ambulatory pile of dog poop. Yeah.
[21:29] Yeah. And the great thing is that they built to like you could almost if you if you were to do
[21:34] like a cheap movie or even like I got one Nuki suit and like, you know, you put on a hat and
[21:39] it's like, oh, that's Miko. No, they they built to for the very dramatic scene at the end where they
[21:44] hug each other and like, yeah, as opposed to a tanuki suit, which allows you to turn into a
[21:50] statue for just a very short amount of time. Yeah. And that's it. Yeah. And fly also. Yeah.
[21:56] You know, the statue is more important. I mean, you can fly just using a maple leaf or using a
[22:02] leaf. You know, you know, the tanuki suit gives you the statue power. It's true. Yeah. Multiple
[22:07] anyway. Anyway, this is all Super Mario Brothers talk. Welcome to welcome to welcome to Super
[22:11] Boys, the Super Mario Brothers podcast, where we talk about just the costumes that Mario gets to
[22:16] wear. But, you know, we talk about Kariba's shoe, Karuba's shoe. I don't know how you pronounce it,
[22:23] but, you know, that shoe lets you bounce around on piranha plants. Finally, and they say that
[22:30] the tech industry isn't solving real world problems. You know, so it's a video game podcast.
[22:35] It's whatever you want it to be. It's a mini. OK. So I think I feel like we haven't fully gotten
[22:39] across just how how bad Nuki is, because it sounds like just any other E.T. ripoff shot in
[22:47] apartheid South Africa with with with characters who are constantly being tortured and there's
[22:53] it's not flying pouring out of their noses. There's just an air of like depression around
[22:59] the whole thing. Right. It's an air of depression, but there's also like at the same time, it's
[23:04] mixed in with like they were trying to make a movie like they weren't doing a trauma thing where
[23:09] they're just like, yeah, make this crazy ass shit like this was this was like somebody was like,
[23:14] this will be great for kids like this. They love E.T. They'll love this. Well, I think that that
[23:21] puts your finger. I mean, like Nuki is notoriously bad. Again, Elliot's messages don't watch it. But
[23:28] but I think that what you're saying puts your finger on one of the things I do like about
[23:33] bad movies to get back to kind of the general question we started with. Yeah. Which is that
[23:39] you know, watching a movie of that caliber, which is to say lower than most movies normal people
[23:46] will ever watch. I do find a certain joy in seeing it and seeing the people who made it thinking like
[23:54] we are making a movie like the the excitement of of of filmmaking, just like that, like we are
[24:00] telling a story. We are part of it. We are Hollywood. We are making a magic factory stuff.
[24:05] Yeah, exactly. It's the way like, you know, I think that Be Kind, Rewind is kind of an underrated
[24:13] movie. It doesn't like it doesn't go a lot of places plot wise, but I think that it captures
[24:18] that joy of like the do it yourself homemade film. And I think that if you watch a really
[24:26] low budget, poorly made movie, you get some of that same joy where you can really see
[24:31] the handcrafted quality of the crap you're watching. I think this I think Nuki is high
[24:37] enough budget that it does not have that handcrafted feel. It has big stars in it.
[24:42] Glynnis Johns, Steve Railsback, huge stars. And and the but but I know what you mean. There's I
[24:48] mean, that's that's part of the as much as Neil Breen's movies are a are a horrifying look into
[24:54] the into the mind of a man who is who seems to have been brought here only to hate the world
[24:59] that that he has found himself trapped on. There is there is an endearing quality of the like,
[25:03] yeah, this guy's doing it like he's I've I've never gotten my act together enough to make a
[25:07] movie, but this guy's doing it. It doesn't matter how bad it is like he's going to make it. He's
[25:11] going to make it happen. I have watched by the way, I have not watched all of Twisted Pair.
[25:16] I have watched the first 30 minutes of Twisted Pair. Then I shut it off,
[25:19] intending to get back to it. And I haven't done it yet. But that's the one that's the
[25:25] most recent one which we haven't covered on the on the podcast. I just want to report back to you
[25:30] guys that based on the first 30 minute he has moved into a whole new area, which is the film
[25:37] is almost entirely made of stock footage that he has inserted himself into and seemingly written
[25:44] a story around. I mean, that's Ed Wood stuff. That's the yeah, that's the magic of filmmaking.
[25:49] Yeah, that won't stop. Did he use the promo code for the flop house to get some?
[25:58] Yeah, that thing like Neil Breen is like a lot of the a lot of the heavy metal artists that I have
[26:04] liked over the years where I'm like, oh, I like the music, but this guy's a creep. And that's
[26:08] the thing about Neil Breen is you're like, oh, he does some things that are really great, like
[26:13] dumb bullshit. But he's a horrible person who has bad ideas.
[26:19] So I will. So what is it then about? I understand there's a there's a part of me that
[26:25] I that gets so much pleasure out of watching a bad movie with other people.
[26:29] Yeah, I mean, and enjoying it with them. But I want but there's there's a period in my life where
[26:32] I I crossed that Rubicon of watching bad movies by myself. And that was a big mistake. That was
[26:38] a big mistake. Huge in the in the words of referencing a good movie of one's Julie when
[26:44] Juliet Roberts that the what happens? What have you guys had experience with that? With that
[26:50] suddenly finding yourself watching a bad movie? But I mean, Dan, you were just talking about
[26:53] watching Twisted Pair. So I guess you're still living in that in that zone. Yeah, well, look,
[27:00] it all depends on where your your life is at, Elliot. Like I there was, you know, a few years
[27:08] where I was, let's say, extra sad when I was watching bad movies on my own and having a
[27:17] cocktail while whilst doing so. And I wouldn't recommend that lifestyle to to folks. But now
[27:22] that my life is back in a more happy, stable place, you know, I can enjoy a bad movie on my
[27:29] own. But I I would definitely recommend that you do it with people like it really is. It does cross
[27:37] the line into a shameful waste of time. You're just doing it by yourself. Yeah. I like for me,
[27:45] like this is the core of it. Like I started and it was it's very I remember this vivid
[27:51] memory. I was like I was at a sleepover with some friends. We weren't we didn't have a pillow. This
[27:55] is only a couple of years ago, right? Only a couple of years ago. But I was like I was trying
[27:59] to do the math on him. I was like 10 or 11. And it's like there's a friend of mine just being
[28:02] like, hey, have you seen up USA's Up All Night? Like, let's like let's watch this.
[28:08] Dan's eyes just lit up. Yeah. Yeah. This brings Dan to the happiest.
[28:13] What were they showing? Screwballs, California hot wax.
[28:19] What bikini business based business were they were they investigating?
[28:24] It was actually a bikini. It was a bikini store. It was just it was a bikini shop.
[28:30] You got to start from somewhere. Probably a Malibu bikini shop.
[28:33] I would submit I would say objection, your honor, that USA Up All Night. There is a secondary motive
[28:38] here, aside from watching a bad movie that involves the what's been termed the cheapest
[28:44] special effect, which is the human boob. So I would say I would say it falls into a different
[28:50] category of shameful things to do by yourself. Elliot, I've arguably spent more money on human
[28:54] boobs. But yeah, so USA Up All Night, bunch of boys hanging around. I bet this party was great.
[29:04] The passing popcorn around. Yeah. We're talking where we're just the thing is like it was the
[29:13] first time I'm an only child. So it was like for me, it was like, oh, wow, I'm hanging out with
[29:17] other people. We're kind of watching a movie and like we're talking about it. We're not like in a
[29:21] theater where you kind of have to be quiet. We're just being assholes in somebody's room and just
[29:26] kind of ragging on it, put ourselves above this like piece of shit that's on TV. So somehow I
[29:33] keep coming back to like that kind of thing. And it's come back in a different form. I get that
[29:38] there's a you get you feel when you first start watching bad movies, you do feel a sense of
[29:41] superiority. Like, can you believe this garbage? Like, this is ridiculous. Who would make this?
[29:45] And it's only as you as as the amount of bad movies that you watch overtakes the amount of
[29:50] good movies that you're like, oh, no, no, I'm beneath it now. Like, I don't even I don't even
[29:54] I'm just a spectator. I don't even have it in me to go out and make a bad movie. I'm just sitting
[29:58] here watching them, feeling my life.
[30:00] with them. Well, also, the more that the bad movie is above me.
[30:03] Yeah. The more that I've become like, I mean, Lord knows I've never made a movie,
[30:08] but let's let's call it showbiz adjacent and more than I would know that the Lord
[30:12] knows all. Yeah. Showbiz adjacent.
[30:14] I it's more like a feeling of there before the grace of God goes on.
[30:19] Like I, I start getting like this weird fondness where I'm just like, you know
[30:24] what? You got out there and you tried.
[30:26] Good job. Good job.
[30:27] You get them next time. Have some orange slices.
[30:32] So when you're watching your yeah, you're more you're more the the supportive
[30:35] coach. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.
[30:36] Yeah. But for me, like so that origin of being
[30:41] puberty, puberty area of just like being a shit
[30:45] disturbance, at least just the shit disturbance and just kind of like making fun
[30:49] of these things with other friends and having a blast like the movie wasn't
[30:52] important. Now it's just like I'm hanging out with my buddies and then like, you
[30:55] know, you grow up, you go to a different school, I'm not friends with those kids
[30:58] anymore or whatever. And I have Facebook friends with them.
[31:01] But. Wow.
[31:02] But yeah. Yes.
[31:04] Well, YouTube is your new QAnon crew that you keep telling me about.
[31:07] Yeah. Trust me.
[31:08] You got to believe it. It's it's real.
[31:10] Pizza game. No, it's not.
[31:11] Please edit that out. I shouldn't have said that.
[31:16] Too late. This is going out live on Joe Rogan's channel.
[31:18] Oh, damn it. Oh, wow.
[31:21] Damn it. So I feel like I went through a phase of doing that.
[31:26] And then, like I said, the VHS stores kind of closed down and then it became a
[31:30] thing of just like I went I went to film school and it was just kind of like, oh,
[31:33] we're analyzing movies, but we're also making fun of them.
[31:36] You know, like it.
[31:38] That that feeling is the same feeling that I get from listening with like with you
[31:42] guys, honestly, I'm sorry to be like a fanboy about the whole thing, but it's just
[31:45] like you guys bring that bring me back to that slumber
[31:50] party when I was a young teen.
[31:54] Yeah. So we're the cool slumber party
[31:58] that you aren't friends with anymore on Facebook.
[32:00] Yeah, that's right.
[32:02] And it's so one sided.
[32:03] You guys are just so funny with it that I don't have to say anything.
[32:05] And it's it's it's a blast listening to it.
[32:07] But it's just like, I mean, that is that is the Flophouse slogan.
[32:11] You mentioned it before.
[32:12] A bunch of assholes in a room or whatever it was being asked.
[32:16] I mean, that describes so many things, though.
[32:19] Like like Congress and most corporate boardrooms.
[32:23] Wow. I guess we're opening our third eye, guys.
[32:28] Good one, Elliot.
[32:29] The no, I think you guys are right.
[32:30] Like, I feel like the thing that I love about mad movies
[32:33] is that it taps into the same thing.
[32:36] Like, I feel like humans that are searching for a partner
[32:40] are looking for somebody that when weird shit is happening,
[32:43] they can give that person a look and there will just be a knowing
[32:47] look in their eyes that you will be able to share a moment
[32:49] without having to say anything.
[32:50] And watching bad movies, I kind of is kind of the same way,
[32:53] like being able to watch a bad movie and having a friend
[32:55] that you can share that that like weird thing with is really great.
[32:59] So that's what that's what we are.
[33:01] We are somebody's perfect.
[33:04] Because we're going to find out who on today's episode of Flop Date.
[33:07] So, Dan, can you bring the contestants?
[33:11] Sure.
[33:11] For Flop Date, the ones we're supposed to go on dates
[33:13] with to find out who were the perfect mate of.
[33:16] If you. Oh, no.
[33:20] Oh, and what's your name, miss?
[33:23] I don't know. I'm an old lady.
[33:25] I'm a lady from an old cartoon.
[33:30] Probably like a flower name, like Petunia or something like that.
[33:34] Yeah, this is going to make it harder to make Flop Date Island.
[33:37] That was going to be the next episode.
[33:38] But all right.
[33:40] It's going to be the three of us on an island.
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[35:15] So I'll ask the question to you guys.
[35:16] Where did you guys get hooked on this drug of watching a bad movie
[35:22] with other people?
[35:22] Like what was what was your first experience with it?
[35:28] Well, I got hooked on bad movies the nerdiest way through books,
[35:33] which was my brother.
[35:37] My brothers, John and Rob.
[35:39] I'm not sure who's it was specifically.
[35:42] They had the book The Golden Turkey Awards by the Medved brothers,
[35:47] who Michael Medved is going on to be a terrible asshole.
[35:51] Speaking of assholes.
[35:52] But at the time, he was a lovable man who would just put out books,
[35:56] ripping apart other people's movies.
[35:58] Yeah, but you know, like it was it was, you know,
[36:02] sort of one of the earlier like mainstream, like,
[36:07] hey, let's all have fun laughing at bad movies things.
[36:12] And I read it cover to cover.
[36:14] I was fascinated with all the the bad movies in there.
[36:17] That's kind of where the like Plan Nine from Outer Space got its reputation.
[36:22] That was the one that they chose as the worst movie of all time.
[36:25] And then, of course,
[36:28] Mystery Science Theater later on.
[36:30] But yeah, what about you guys?
[36:33] I had pretty much the same story, so I can't really have nothing to add.
[36:37] So books like that. Exactly.
[36:39] Well, I didn't I actually I feel like I discovered those books
[36:42] after I discovered Mystery Science Theater.
[36:43] But that's not that.
[36:43] But I do remember showing my friends Mystery Science Theater and finding out
[36:48] that they did not find it as funny as I did and being horrified by this.
[36:51] And I think the only the only thing I can compare to is when I discovered
[36:55] Monty Python and showed it to my friends and they did not find that as funny
[36:58] as I thought it was.
[36:59] And I was like, why am I friends with these people?
[37:01] Like, what's what's going on? I don't understand.
[37:03] But but I guess I was searching for, again, that communal aspect.
[37:07] Searching for a young Dan McCoy in the basement of Juvie Hall.
[37:11] Yeah. But seriously, if you would have shared like I
[37:15] same thing with went for me with Monty Python.
[37:17] Like I got the scripts of the Monty Python sketches there.
[37:20] They published them. Yeah.
[37:21] And would share them with other like I was sharing videotapes,
[37:24] things that I had and stuff like that.
[37:26] And none of my friends at that time, the ones that I'm not friends with on Facebook,
[37:29] none of them got it like they just were like, what is this weird shit?
[37:32] But like, I remember. Yeah, that's what we say.
[37:36] Sorry. No, I just I it kind of makes sense that like if you had that also, Elliot,
[37:41] we all had that one friend.
[37:43] We tried to introduce a mystery science theater 3000 and was not into it.
[37:48] And instead, he just wanted to watch Major League every day for a summer.
[37:52] And, you know, just watch it with them because they're your friends.
[37:55] Because they're your friend and Major League kind of rules.
[37:59] Yeah, right. We did all have that experience.
[38:01] That is we all have a universal experience.
[38:04] And yet, as seen in Joseph Campbell's book, the hero with a thousand friends
[38:09] who don't want to watch mystery science theater and just want to watch
[38:11] Major League every day for a summer, but we watched it anyway.
[38:14] This here only had the one friend.
[38:17] But I so, yeah, mystery science theater was obviously my introduction.
[38:20] But then for me, like a big part of it was
[38:23] the communal aspect for me was in high school, the guys that I on the weekends,
[38:30] the guys that I would play role playing games with, like one night on the weekend,
[38:35] we would stay up, we'd stay up all night playing role playing games.
[38:38] The next night we would go to Blockbuster or whatever local video store, family video,
[38:42] ideally, because they had the best selection and pornography.
[38:46] And we would rent like a handful of tapes and we would just sit around watching.
[38:52] We would it would almost always be bad horror movies.
[38:54] And we just watch a stack of bad horror movies.
[38:57] And we'd complain the whole time.
[38:59] And that was great.
[39:00] And I miss that in somebody's basement like mine.
[39:04] And, you know, as long as this movie or this movie,
[39:07] as long as this episode of the Flophouse has kind of a Flophouse origins theme in it,
[39:13] like, you know, when I first came to New York, Stuart was here in New York as well.
[39:19] And we've said this in the past, but, you know, we didn't know each other so well in college.
[39:27] We had friends in common, but then being, you know, new to New York,
[39:33] we started hanging out much more frequently.
[39:35] And most of what we did was we'd get together and be like,
[39:39] all right, what's the dumbest movie we could watch together?
[39:43] So that was even before the podcast, that was like early bonding for means to.
[39:50] Because we both wanted to watch the dumbest possible thing we could find
[39:53] from that video store on Atlantic Avenue, right?
[39:55] Yeah.
[39:56] Was it family video?
[39:57] Which one was?
[39:58] That's hard.
[40:00] Hard to remember.
[40:01] Or was it?
[40:02] Yeah, it was on Atlantic.
[40:03] It's gone now.
[40:04] It doesn't matter.
[40:05] It'll never be there again.
[40:06] It's gone.
[40:07] I just remember in the early days of the Flophouse, it was videos.
[40:11] It was DVDs that we would be watching.
[40:14] I would go to what was nearby.
[40:17] I remember one day I came back with Bratz and you guys were like, I don't know.
[40:23] I don't know about this.
[40:25] I got a feeling.
[40:27] Did you rent this to watch after we left on your own?
[40:31] Yeah, I got put on a watch list for it.
[40:36] Worth it though.
[40:37] What a great movie.
[40:38] Yeah.
[40:39] So question for you guys then.
[40:40] I know life has put you guys up in different places and COVID isolation and stuff like
[40:48] that.
[40:49] Before, in the olden days when you guys were recording this, you guys were watching the
[40:52] movie together, together the whole time.
[40:54] Yes.
[40:55] Always in the same room.
[40:56] Always in the same room.
[40:57] And then we record it right afterwards in the same room.
[40:59] Immediately.
[41:00] Right.
[41:01] Yeah.
[41:02] And that's how these guys got to watch me eat so many chickens over the course of those
[41:04] years.
[41:05] It still haunts me.
[41:06] And I would be getting drunk while watching the movie.
[41:10] So by the time we started recording, I was definitely drunk.
[41:13] And Dan was tired because he'd either fallen asleep or was watching, looking at something
[41:18] on his phone.
[41:19] That only happened one time that Dan fell asleep, but it was hilarious.
[41:25] Yeah.
[41:26] It was one of the Transformers movies.
[41:29] So then now, you guys watch it separately or do you guys watch it on a shared call?
[41:36] No, we watch it separately, which means that we're kind of back to watching a bad movie
[41:41] on our own.
[41:42] Although now we know that there's professional, semi-professional reason to do it.
[41:47] But yeah, or I guess Dan watches with Audrey.
[41:51] Stu, I don't know if Shirlene watches with you.
[41:53] Most of the time, no.
[41:54] If I ever try to watch with my wife, she usually stops watching or falls asleep about 20 minutes
[41:58] in, 25 minutes in.
[42:00] She still doesn't know who committed the crime in House of Gucci.
[42:03] It was Gucci.
[42:05] It was Gucci the whole time.
[42:06] Yeah.
[42:07] But we do get some of the communal aspect of it because it is fun to watch a bad movie
[42:12] by ourselves and then come together.
[42:16] I'm always looking forward to see what they have to say about it.
[42:20] And I like to be surprised when Dan likes the movie.
[42:25] Although at this point, I think I'm just going to assume he likes most movies.
[42:28] Yeah.
[42:29] Now I'm more surprised when he doesn't like the movie.
[42:30] I just like movies, guys.
[42:32] Whenever we record, Dan just goes, you know, the magic of the movies, fresh baked popcorn
[42:39] and you got a Twizzler in one hand.
[42:43] Heartbreak feels good here.
[42:44] I'm sitting there with Nicole Kidman, you know, just watching the twinkles on the screen.
[42:49] Just give me those screen twinkles.
[42:53] Just make them extra twinkly and put them on the biggest screen you can get.
[42:57] Screen me those twinks.
[42:59] Oh, no.
[43:01] No.
[43:02] Well, it's short for twinkles.
[43:04] But yeah, so Dan has become an old softie.
[43:08] Now that I know that I see my children getting older and see the sand running out of the hourglass of my life,
[43:14] I get angrier and angrier at these movies that I'm watching.
[43:17] You look at your hands and you see hairs falling out of your head.
[43:21] I'm passing.
[43:23] Hairs falling out of my palms, the palms I earned that hair with all of my self-abuse over the years.
[43:29] And now I'm losing it.
[43:30] Terrible.
[43:32] So would you guys – I was going to ask that question about watching it together because I always assumed if you guys were watching it together, you guys were making comments.
[43:42] I almost would assume you would be making bits or like –
[43:46] Dan sometimes texts as well.
[43:48] He's watching them.
[43:49] Okay.
[43:50] Yeah.
[43:51] And we go save it for the podcast.
[43:53] Maybe we should do that.
[43:54] Guys, maybe we should do that sometime.
[43:55] We'll watch it on like a Google Hangout.
[43:58] Do they still do that?
[43:59] We'll sync up.
[44:00] Yeah.
[44:01] I mean we could.
[44:02] You would have to text us when your dishwashing time is.
[44:06] I mean I don't have to wash dishes while I watch this.
[44:09] A bunch of 30-minute checks.
[44:11] Yeah, yeah.
[44:12] That's true.
[44:13] And I would want you to be doing dishes too at the same time.
[44:15] Elliot would often – that's when I do calls with Elliot and I then termed it bath time because it just sounded like Elliot was giving me a bath.
[44:26] Just like some wonderful audio.
[44:29] Well, you clink and clank like porcelain too.
[44:33] So that's the other part of it.
[44:35] Exactly.
[44:36] That's half my body here in Canada.
[44:39] Well, I feel like we've answered all the questions we set out to answer tonight.
[44:43] Why do people watch bad movies?
[44:45] What is a new key?
[44:47] And it turns out the answer is the friends we made along the way.
[44:51] No kidding.
[44:52] That's the answer to all those questions, yeah.
[44:54] So Eric, is there anything else you – any final thoughts you wanted to give to us before we close out this miniature kind of a little diorama episode of The Flophouse, a little nutshell episode of The Flophouse, like that little library of murder scenes that that person put together to teach forensics people about.
[45:14] Do you know the one I'm talking about?
[45:15] What?
[45:16] Anyway, never mind.
[45:19] Eric, did you have any parting shots?
[45:23] No, just keep on trucking, guys.
[45:25] I'd love to hear you guys even more.
[45:29] I feel like that's been a request I've had with Dan from when the show –
[45:32] Longer episodes is what I'm hearing.
[45:34] No, seriously.
[45:35] Longer episodes or like more often?
[45:38] I love that you guys do the minis.
[45:40] This is the time to announce it.
[45:41] We're going daily, everybody.
[45:43] A new episode every day.
[45:45] Oh, God.
[45:46] Now, would you – if we – if somehow our pledges were at such a high level that this could be our only job, would you consider doing a daily episode of this show every day?
[45:55] Oh, sure.
[45:56] If it was our – well, I mean like what kind of money are we talking here?
[45:59] I mean like not – I mean you're not rich, but like you don't have to worry until the show ends and then you have no retirement savings.
[46:05] And no skills.
[46:07] And no skills, yeah, and you're certainly not earning Guild health insurance off of the podcast.
[46:12] Yeah, but like there's the fan in me and also the bullshit artist producer who would be like, yeah, guys, trust me.
[46:19] There's going to be an audience for you.
[46:20] If you do this every day of your life, like they're going to be coming for you.
[46:23] You guys are going to be influencers.
[46:24] You guys are going to move together into an influencer house.
[46:27] Oh, yeah.
[46:28] And you're totally going to like – yeah, it's going to be the flop house.
[46:30] We've just got to pump out that 10 to 15 hours of content a week, and we'll be sitting pretty.
[46:36] Speaking of this being the only job I have, before we say goodbye to Eric, I just want to mention the live show.
[46:44] Oh, we probably should have mentioned that at the top.
[46:46] TheFlopHouse.SimpleTix.com.
[46:50] TheFlopHouse.SimpleTix.
[46:52] That's T-I-X.com.
[46:54] Not T-I-C-K-S like Lyme disease.
[46:57] T-I-X like short for tickets.
[47:00] For $10, you can get yourself a ticket to the Masters of the Universe live streaming show.
[47:06] We're doing a live show, but we're doing it online because we still don't feel comfortable touring out in the world.
[47:12] So on Saturday, March 19th at 9 p.m. Eastern, that's 6 p.m. where Elliot lives on the other coast.
[47:22] What are we going to be reviewing?
[47:25] We've got Masters of the Universe from 1987.
[47:28] That's right.
[47:29] We're taking on He-Man and the Masters of the Universe.
[47:31] The live action He-Man movie.
[47:33] I'll talk about this when we do the show.
[47:35] That is my first experience I think as a kid with seeing an adaptation of a property I loved made by adults who could not care less about it and are just going to change everything they can about it because they don't care.
[47:47] So it was a very jarring experience for me as a young person, but I haven't watched the movie since then as a result.
[47:52] So we're going to see.
[47:53] I was very into it as a kid.
[47:55] Yeah.
[47:57] So March 19th.
[47:58] We'll discuss the movie.
[48:00] We'll do some presentations and other comedy bits.
[48:04] You're going to get to see my apartment.
[48:07] You're going to get to see Elliot's torture garage and Dan's bookshelf.
[48:12] It's just a garage.
[48:13] Yeah.
[48:14] It's just a garage.
[48:15] Yeah.
[48:16] This is not a screening of the movie.
[48:17] We do not have the rights to Masters of the Universe.
[48:21] This is just what we would do on the road, which is talk about a movie plus other stuff.
[48:27] Yeah.
[48:28] We'll be doing our presentations and questions from the audience and talking about Masters of the Universe starring Dolph Lundgren, Courtney Cox, Frank Langella, and Billy Barty, the only movie with that cast.
[48:40] So if you want to hear about those actors, this is your one chance.
[48:44] But Eric, thank you for joining us from the frozen north.
[48:48] Is there anything you want to plug or anything?
[48:50] I could plug Far Cry 6, but I'm not getting a kickback because I left the company, so it doesn't really go into my bank account.
[48:58] But Far Cry 6.
[49:00] I work on video games, and they take like five years to make.
[49:03] We put a lot of heart and soul into it, and then it just kind of goes.
[49:07] So I'm working on something that will come out in like four years.
[49:10] So I'll be back maybe in four years to plug that one.
[49:14] You can plug it for people to enjoy your work.
[49:18] And you've snuck Flophouse references into stuff in the past.
[49:25] Every game I work on, I have you guys in there in multiple degrees.
[49:29] I even have like at the end, I worked on the Eastern campaign.
[49:33] The country is broken up into three parts in Far Cry 6.
[49:37] And at the end, there's a bad guy that you have to face off with.
[49:41] And if you don't kill him, you have the option to not kill him.
[49:43] I'm spoiling the ending for you.
[49:45] If you don't pull the trigger on him, he'll just call somebody.
[49:49] You're in the room with him, but he'll just start calling like other pieces of shit like himself.
[49:53] And some of the people on the call are Elliot.
[50:00] Stewart and just references those guys and I think he even mentions the house
[50:06] cat but it's just it's just I just throw in things there just to be like yeah yeah
[50:11] I don't know if anybody will find it but maybe the the flop house players who
[50:14] people find it they'll find it so you guys are in there and the bad guy's name
[50:19] is McKay we tried but everybody was just like it's gonna be Star Trek so yeah got
[50:25] morphed into McKay so you were good you Dan you you were going to be that was
[50:33] the original plan inspired by at least yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah based on a
[50:38] true story right he's an evil college professor Eric thank you so much for
[50:49] joining us Dan and Stewart it's always a great time spending time with my friends
[50:53] talking right bad movie stuff and thank you listeners for tuning in to this
[50:58] special flop house mini walk down slightly memorably Lane memorably Lane
[51:03] is what I called it it's a memorably Lane was named after Fred memorably the
[51:07] inventor of memories memories and when and when he was telling he wanted to
[51:13] name it after himself but he was here taking it over over the phone and he
[51:18] misheard it and he misspelled yeah so anyway thanks for listening again that's
[51:24] our live show is on March 19th tickets are available now though at what was it
[51:28] Dan the flop house dot simple tics dot-com and we'll be back with you next
[51:35] week with another all-new episode of
[51:41] flop house we'll work on that bye everybody
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We're joined by Erik Marcisak, the man who holds a hallowed place in Flop House history, as the man who introduced Dan and Elliott to one another. We reminisce with Erik about the old days, doing shows in his tiny comedy theater; then we segue into a discussion of Nukie, one of the bad movies that bonded him with Elliott; and wrap up with Erik subtly hijacking the show to interview us for a little bit.

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