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FH Mini 51 - Talkin' Toys with T'Elliott
Transcript
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Hello, everybody. Welcome to another Flophouse Mini. That's right. It's the Flophouse, but
Elliott Kalan
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not at the maxi size. It's the mini size with wings. And tonight we wanted to do a special
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mini to help promote and endorse our Flophouse virtual live show, which is happening this
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evening. If you're listening to this on the day of its release, which is Saturday, March
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19th, then today you can watch our Flophouse live virtual show where we talk about Masters
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of the Universe. It starts at 9 p.m. Eastern, 6 p.m. Pacific. To get tickets, you just go
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to theflophouse.simpleticks.com. Now, if you're listening to this a couple days after release,
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you missed the show, I'm sorry to say, but you can still buy a ticket and download the
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recording of the show. You have one week to do that. After that week, the show will disappear
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forever and no one will ever see it again. We've got new presentations from us. Dan has
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some kind of surprise thing that he's not going to tell us what it is. Stu says he has
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a surprise. I'm just going to be there.
Stuart Wellington
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I'm taking bets. Elliot and I have been taking bets, but I think Dan's going to show hole.
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What?
Elliott Kalan
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I didn't. Yeah, I'm betting no, but Stuart's been betting yes. And so that's the, if you
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want to see if Dan shows hole, that's theflophouse.simpleticks.com today. That's up to you, Dan.
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And so in order to, in order to get people in the mood for a movie like Masters of the
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No, not for you, not for your hole, Dan, or holes.
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Okay, thank God, because it's not happening.
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No, in order to get people in the mood for Masters of the Universe, a movie based on a
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toy line, I thought today we'd take a look at toys based on movies. That's right. It's
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time for Elliot Kalin's once every 35 years, 10 best movie related action figures.
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That's right. I did one when I was five years old, 35 years ago, and I'll do one again in
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the future when I'm 75 years old. It's a 35 year thing like Haley's Comet. If it, Haley's
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Comet came around 35 years instead of whatever it is, 70 something. So today, Dan, Stu, why
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don't you come with me on a little walk down toy memory lane as we look at Elliot's choices
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for the top 10 best movie related action figures. Now, and these are, now again, these are toy
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lines based on movies. These are not toys that were adapted into movies. So there's no Ninja
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Turtles on this list. There's no, uh, Thunder Cats is, there's no Transformers is any of that
Stuart Wellington
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stuff. Uh, so, uh, wait, do they make a, they make a Thundercats movie? Uh, well, they've been
Elliott Kalan
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talking about making one for a long time, you know, what about Thunder Birds movie? I know that,
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but that's not the same thing. No, they, and they, wait, they made a, the birds movie. Yeah. They
Dan McCoy
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made a, the birds movie. It's called the birds. It's based on the toy line. It's based on the
Elliott Kalan
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movie of the same name. Wait, so the movie is based on the movie of the same name? Yeah.
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Okay. Interesting. Uh, it's, it's the, Alfred Hitchcock was really eating his own tail on that
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one. So, which was good because he didn't want people to know he had a tail. So that was the
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only way to get rid of it back then. They didn't have the surgery. He had to eat it right off.
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It's like turning red. Uh, I sent you guys a packet of photos. Uh, so feel free to go to the
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first page of that packet. Please don't look ahead to the, uh, later pictures and you, you should be
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seeing, uh, number 10, uh, Dan Stewart. Can you describe what you're seeing here? Um, well, it is a
Dan McCoy
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grim one. Yeah. I will say that much. Uh, it looks like, uh, Mohawk. Uh, it's Stripe. Stripe. Oh,
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sorry. Mohawk is the later one. I couldn't remember. They both have Mohawks is the confusing
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thing. Mohawks is more of a spike, more of a spiky thing. Spiky Mohawk. Stripe has white
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hair because he's a silver fox. Yeah. Okay. It is Stripe. It is Stripe. Uh, Stripe. Trickster
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king of the Grimlands. And that's a great way to describe him. I love it. He's like coyote.
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He looks a little, uh, uh, bent out of shape. I guess that's kind of a pun because he's literally
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a plastic thing that has been kind of bent around. I mean, Gremlins are like twisted creatures,
Elliott Kalan
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right? They're not meant to. Yeah. And this one is literally twisted. So this is a Gremlins
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rubber figure from 1984. This is a toy I had and I loved very much. As you can see from the picture,
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he's kind of doing kind of a shimmy Charleston type dance. They were very hard to get to stand
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up properly. And, uh, the best this person could do was bend the knees inward and have the hands
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kind of like off to the side as if he's dancing. Uh-huh. So this is my number 10 pick for the best
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movie related toys. It was a bendy Stripe. It looked great. It felt rubbery. Like you imagine
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real Gremlin skin would feel. Uh-huh. And adding to the excitement of it was the fact that I played
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with it so much that the metal wires inside that held its shape started poking out through the rubber
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skin. Yeah. And it became dangerous. Just like my bones. Yeah, exactly. So just like the real Stripe,
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it was very dangerous to play with. Watch out, everybody. And also you shouldn't get it wet
Stuart Wellington
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because it would not dry. It would just smell. Yeah, that's a good point. Did you ever try feeding
Elliott Kalan
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that shit after midnight? Well, I mean, it was pointless. He's a Gremlin already, but I guess.
Stuart Wellington
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What happens if you feed a Gremlin after midnight? Does it become a Super Gremlin?
Elliott Kalan
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It does. I have to assume it becomes a Super Gremlin or it goes back and becomes a Mogwai. No one
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ever tried it before. Whoa. So that's the Gremlins figure. Do you guys have any Gremlins toy memories?
Dan McCoy
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I don't have any Gremlins toy memories. A couple years back, I think it was our first Christmas
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together as partnered in any way, Audrey got me a Gremlin figure that has, it's from the original
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movie and it's got a lot of the movie theater accoutrement. Like it has little 3D glasses and
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a beer and a cigarette and popcorn bags you can put on the ears. It's a nice little, I've lost at least
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two of these smaller items that came along with it already, but I am very fond of my Gremlins
Stuart Wellington
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figure. What about you, Stu? Yeah. So just like you guys, I love Gremlins 2. And when Gremlins 2 came
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out, there was a, I think Tops put out a series of trading cards and I obsessively collected them.
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At the time I probably should have identified this as a signifier of upcoming addictive obsession
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habits. And I should have nipped it in the bud. Unfortunately I did not. Yeah. And then at the
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same time I was playing the Nintendo game Gremlins 2, which was based on the movie. And that was the
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first Nintendo game. Much like the birds was based on the birds. Yeah.
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I think that was the first Nintendo game that I beat. And I remember taking a picture of the end
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game screen. That couldn't have been the first game I beat. DuckTales was the first game I beat.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I feel like Gremlins 2 was a game that I beat and I'm like, hell yeah. So I took a
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picture and I sent that shit in the Nintendo Power. Did not hear back from them. Oof. Oof.
Dan McCoy
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Their loss. That was a fun game. I, I, I, look, no, no shades to a little bit of an easy game,
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but a very fun game. Well, why do you think they didn't print it? Nintendo Power sent it in a
Elliott Kalan
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Nestor opened up the envelope and was like this easy stuff. Not, not magazine worthy. You know,
Dan McCoy
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what I just remembered that I had that I really loved was I don't, I think it was like some sort
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of, uh, uh, fast food tie in. Maybe I had a series of records that told the story of Gremlins.
Elliott Kalan
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Yes. Yeah. I had those also. Yeah. And the, and there were, there was storybooks that, that told it.
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There was one called what Billy's new pet or something like that. And anyway, I had a lot of
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Gremlins toys as a kid. A lot of them are still at my mom's apartment. We had so many gizmos,
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but this one I think has disappeared, which is good because it was.
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Wazoo and gizmos. Always a gizmo, never a stripe. We had gizmos up the wazoo. Anyway,
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so let's move on to the next one. Don't scroll too far. Just go to the next page.
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Just go to the next page. Scrolling ahead. Oh. Okay. So now we're going to number nine. This is
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Showtime Beetlejuice from 1989. Dan, can you describe this toy? This supposedly ill thought out toy.
Dan McCoy
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Yeah. So imagine in Beetlejuice where he says, it's Showtime. That is, that is what makes this
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Showtime Beetlejuice because he's got the, you know, like the carousel head, hat kind of thing
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with like bat wings around. He doesn't have the long hammer. The mallet arms. Mallet arms that he does
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have at that point in the thing, but they have tossed in on the side a banister Beetlejuice snake. You
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know, the snake with the Beetlejuice head, although it is really tiny. It looks like kind of a, it's,
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it's smaller than his arm. Yeah. It's made, it's made kind of attached to his arm and here,
Elliott Kalan
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according to the packaging, it's called a rotten rattler. Uh, and so the reason I included this
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was this was my first experience with Beetlejuice was seeing this toy at a friend's house and having
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no idea what it could possibly be that it does not look like the Beetlejuice character very much.
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Like the sculpt does not look like. Yeah. I'm sure you were able to, to easily extrapolate what the
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plot of the movie was. It was like, okay, this guy has a carnival for a head.
Stuart Wellington
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So it's about this couple that die in an accident. It was, it was amazing. It's a tragedy really.
Elliott Kalan
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I feel like my, my first experience with Beetlejuice was this toy, then the Beetlejuice cartoon,
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and only many years later, the movie. So for years, I thought that Beetlejuice was the star of the
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movie Beetlejuice and didn't realize that if anything, he's the villain of the movie. But yeah,
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this was, I always thought it was a strange choice to make your Beetlejuice figure from one moment in
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the movie when his head is misshapen and it's turned into something else.
Dan McCoy
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We have to talk about that in the upper right corner of the packaging, we have a Beetlejuice who has,
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you know, again, he's got human legs and arms and hands, or at least Beetlejuice, human legs,
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arms and hands. But his face is sort of the snake Beetlejuice.
Stuart Wellington
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Yeah, he's got like a snake head. Like he's one of the bad guys from the Fjord Woods.
Elliott Kalan
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What's that word balloon say, Dan?
Dan McCoy
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The word balloon says, can I be scary or what?
Elliott Kalan
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And then above that, you'll notice it says ages four and up, which seems wildly inappropriate.
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Yeah, very.
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To have a Freudle playing with this.
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Very optimistic.
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There's something, and there's a, and I'm going to touch on this actually in the He-Man live show,
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is the inappropriateness in the 1980s of what materials were deemed licensable for children's
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merchandise. It was just like, anything goes and it doesn't matter how scary or rated the movie,
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you know.
Stuart Wellington
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And this is after the like Saturday Night Live, Dan Aykroyd sketches where they make jokes about
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toy manufacturers not giving a fuck about killing kids with their horrible toys.
Elliott Kalan
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Yes, and it was right before the classic Big Red commercial, which is-
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More endangering, yeah.
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Yeah, the Big Red SNL commercial, which is a Viking whose helmet spins and just squirts
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red toxic goop all over the place.
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So, yeah, people knew that toys, that kids played with toys.
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They didn't think like, oh yeah, an adult would like this.
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At the time, toys were for kids, you know.
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So let's move on to the next one.
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This is going to be a more, this is a slightly more modern toy.
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Let's go to number eight.
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And I'm sure you recognize all the characters in this.
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Uh, yeah.
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This is, this is a Star Wars set.
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These are some of your favorite characters.
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Zet, Jukasa, Baron, Papa Noda, Tyr, Tennille, and Chi, Kiri.
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And this, of course, everyone knows that this is the Star Wars Lucas Collectors set,
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which is the set collecting all the characters George Lucas and his kids played in the Star Wars
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prequels.
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And I gotta say, it's a pretty, it's a pretty cool move for a dad to do that.
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Yeah.
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I mean, that's a fucking flex.
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That's amazing.
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What's amazing also is if you look at this smaller picture, one of the figures, the Chi
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Ikiri figure, I think it is, is side eyeing the George Lucas figure like, dad, I can't
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believe you made me dress up like this.
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One of my big regrets is when I, when I got a tour of, uh, Industrial Light and Magic years
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ago is not buying this in the gift shop that they had, uh, because it would be, cause I
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just thought it was such a crazy thing to have where it was like, yeah, yeah.
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I love Star Wars so much that I want toys of the creator's family that I can play with.
Dan McCoy
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Especially because like in terms of, you know, being in the movie, I don't know actually what
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these characters are, but they kind of all like, they give the vibe of like, oh, they
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would be standing behind Queen Amidala in one scene.
Elliott Kalan
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Yeah.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Very much so.
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These are not major characters, but Star Wars has never let that stop them from making a toy
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that a character is only appears in one frame, you know?
Stuart Wellington
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Like it's one thing, it's one thing to do this.
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And it's another thing to where like, as a, as a wrap gift for Peter Jackson, some of the
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crew got together and hired the, the Perry twins, the miniature sculptors to sculpt up
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a set of figurines of Peter and Fran and their kids as 28 millimeter figurines, which is
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amazing.
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And I think that's super cool.
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And he also, he also commissioned those same sculptors to sculpt up a line of New Zealand
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World War one infantry, which is super cool too, but he didn't try and sell them to, to
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people that aren't his family.
Elliott Kalan
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Yeah.
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He didn't package them and then sell them.
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You'll notice also it says in the corner here, ages four plus, uh, four year olds love to
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play with George Lucas's family members.
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It's just, they love it.
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Uh, the, yeah, it's, it's a, it's a weird, it's a weird flex to be like, you want to complete
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Star Wars figure set by my children?
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Uh, so let's move on to the next, the next page.
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Um, now this is, this is a more, even if anything, an even more niche product than the Lucas family,
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uh, figures.
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Yeah.
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This is, this is, uh, from the silent screamers line from 2000, 2001, which was the strange
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thing of, uh, they look like McFarlane toys, but they're not McFarlane toys where they are
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horror toys of characters from silent movies.
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And this is Maria from Metropolis.
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And here's what I like about it.
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One.
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Yeah.
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I want a figure of Maria from Metropolis.
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Maybe the greatest robot in the movies.
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I mean, it's like C-3PO, but a lady.
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But the things that I think are funny about this is that the, the sculpt for this figure
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has made her boobs so much bigger than they are in the movie.
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They're, they're giant.
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Yeah.
Dan McCoy
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Well, also she's sitting with her legs splayed wide, wide apart in the packaging.
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Like.
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Yeah.
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Mostly in packaging, you just have like someone just standing there.
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But this, this is Maria spreading this, uh, robot.
Elliott Kalan
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Yeah.
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Well, she's sitting on the throne where she's formed, where she turns into, where she loses
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her robot shape and becomes Maria, the, uh, the, uh, taking the form of the, uh, the worker's
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daughter.
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Yes.
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But there is something yet.
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It does look like her legs are kind of cocked at a, uh, at like a sexy angle, you know, uh,
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guys.
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And I want to talk to you.
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Is there anything nerdier than, and I have a reason for asking this.
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Is there anything nerdier than buying a kind of gritty action figure of a character from
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a silent horror film from the 1920s?
Dan McCoy
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Uh, you know what?
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I would normally say no, but I feel like this is a setup for something.
Elliott Kalan
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No.
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Yeah.
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I think you're right, guys.
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I think, no, I think you're right.
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Wait, Stuart, what were you going to say?
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Yes or no?
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What?
Stuart Wellington
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I was going to say, like, I feel like this, if I, if I bring somebody home to show them
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my well-appointed, uh, living room and I have my display cabinet where I put all my in-packaged,
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uh, figurines, I would probably put this one near the back.
Elliott Kalan
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Now, I'm asking you this because I did not own this figure, but I did own a different
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figure from this line, the Caesar the Somnambulist figure from the cabinet of Dr. Caligari.
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Who, uh, that figure, it's like, it's super, you know, Edward Scissorhands, gothy looking,
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but it also kind of looks like the artist Michael Allred, uh, creator of Madman.
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Now, uh, I want you to scroll down.
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There's a runner-up for number seven on this list.
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If you scroll down just the next one, uh, and that, and-
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Runner-up.
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Let me know when you get there.
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Oh, my.
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The runner-up is the Nosferatu figure of the same Silent Screamers line.
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And the reason this really got to me is, one, it's one of the few figures that comes
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with several mice, several dead rats as things that you can have as accessories.
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But also, I think it's possibly the least anti-Semitic Nosferatu I've ever seen, which
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really hit me, that they managed to make one that did not feel like it was a cartoon in
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a Nazi newspaper.
Dan McCoy
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I have to say that this feels like, um, the spitting image version of Nosferatu.
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The British puppet satire program, like they did a version of.
Stuart Wellington
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It's a very Punch and Judy Nosferatu.
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Yeah.
Dan McCoy
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It's, it's a little distorted from what you know from the F.W.
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Murnau movie.
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I feel like, that was.
Stuart Wellington
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I feel like the packaging makes some promises that I don't know if it's going to be able
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to keep.
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Like it says, featuring skin burns when exposed to sun.
Elliott Kalan
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Yeah.
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I never had this one.
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So I don't know if that actually happened or not.
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It seems like it's hard to keep a mint.
Dan McCoy
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Leged rat base with extra rats.
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Oh man.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
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Like I get it.
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One rat is fine.
Elliott Kalan
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And you'll, you'll notice that this one also the base connected to the base of the
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Renfield figure, which was sold separately.
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Uh, but you're right.
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These, these figures were done with like this, you know, this kind of twisted nineties kind
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of like distorted goth style.
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There was around this time that they had these like, like twisted wizard of Oz figures too,
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where they were all kind of like tough and scary.
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And that's, it was along those lines.
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It was in that kind of Marilyn Manson.
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We're going to take Alice in Wonderland or whatever and make it like, make it Cormac McCarthy
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twisted.
Stuart Wellington
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I mean, yeah.
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Would you say this is your daddy's Nosferatu?
Elliott Kalan
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I would say this is not your daddy's Nosferatu because your daddy didn't have a Nosferatu.
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Your great grandfather had a Nosferatu.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So before, before we take a brief break for ads, I want to just go down to one more.
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I want to go down to the next, the next one, go down to the next page.
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So this is number six.
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Don't scroll file.
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It's number six.
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And so Dan, can you describe this?
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Oh, Stuart, you describe this figure since you had such a reaction to it.
Stuart Wellington
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Well, it looks like a shirtless, unmuscled man with a mustache described as German mechanic
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action figure from Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Elliott Kalan
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Yeah.
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That's right.
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And you'll notice that somehow, according to this, this picture I took from the internet,
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that it was on sale for $2.11, which is a strange price.
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It's a strange number to put on a price tag.
Dan McCoy
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I would like to highlight the inset.
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It's priced at all.
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There's a little inset picture of the figure in action that says,
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quick action arm for realistic play.
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Because that's what I'm looking for.
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I don't know what unrealistic play would be.
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I'm sorry, Bobby, you're moving that action figure around, but it just doesn't feel like
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a realistic play to me.
Elliott Kalan
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And again, ages four and up.
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Ages four and up.
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The character of the beefy Nazi that punches Indy in the face before being killed by a propeller
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is for ages four and up, of course.
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Now, this figure, what I like about it is, partly, one, it's a character you would not
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expect them to make a toy of.
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He's only in one scene and there's nothing particularly distinctive about him other than being bald
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and having a mustache.
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Two, that they call him German mechanic as opposed to like Nazi soldier or something like that.
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Because the fact that he's a mechanic doesn't really play into his character in the movie.
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He doesn't wield a wrench or anything, you know.
[19:14]
Punches.
[19:15]
But also that when you look at the actual figure itself, he just kind of looks like a dad.
[19:19]
He looks like a dad who took his shirt off to wash the car.
Stuart Wellington
[19:22]
Yeah, he looks significantly less intimidating than he does in the movie.
[19:25]
In the movie, you're like, oh man, this dude is going to fuck Indy up.
[19:29]
But the figure, you're like, oh, he's a little potato.
[19:32]
Yeah, no, he's got a dad bod a little bit.
[19:35]
He's, you know.
[19:36]
A little bit.
Dan McCoy
[19:37]
Well, you know.
[19:39]
He doesn't have enough body hair to be a bear, but he's got like, you know, a nice mustache.
[19:45]
I like that this is a Kenner figure.
[19:49]
You know, Kenner, obviously known for the original Star Wars action figures.
[19:55]
Did they do G.I. Joe as well or was that Hasbro?
[19:59]
G.I. Joe is Hasbro, I do believe.
[20:01]
But Kenner, of course, famously got the Star Wars license and rode that to the money bank.
[20:11]
As opposed to, I don't know, the other kinds of banks.
[20:13]
To the goblin bank.
Elliott Kalan
[20:14]
A sperm bank where they'd be like, why are you bringing these toys here?
[20:17]
We don't want people to use these while they're delivering.
Stuart Wellington
[20:20]
Or the blood bank, which is where Blade hangs out outside waiting for suck heads to walk in.
[20:25]
He's like, I'm going to smoke y'all.
Elliott Kalan
[20:27]
Now, this one doesn't come with any accessories, but if it did, I imagine it would come with like a can of beer and probably like a little portable black and white television set that it could prop in a garage on top of a workbench.
Dan McCoy
[20:39]
Yeah, or like a folding chair.
[20:41]
Or a pretzel.
Elliott Kalan
[20:43]
Or a pretzel would fit really well.
Dan McCoy
[20:45]
He's a true mechanic, like a big doughy pretzel.
[20:48]
I would love a pretzel.
Elliott Kalan
[20:49]
Come on, Kenner, give him a pretzel.
[20:51]
Come on.
[20:51]
Hang out with that guy with a pretzel and some beer.
[20:54]
Yeah, yeah.
[20:55]
So you have to imagine that at some point a kid got this toy, took it out of the package.
[20:59]
Of course, they want to play with it.
[21:00]
And then left it in a box.
[21:02]
And that someone then found it without the packaging and was like, why does he have a shirtless, like a shirtless, hairless bear daddy?
[21:09]
Like, why does he have a toy of this?
[21:12]
Because there's nothing else about him that particularly screams adventure.
Stuart Wellington
[21:16]
Now, was Roadblock the G.I. Joe guy who kind of looked like this or was that Leatherneck?
Elliott Kalan
[21:23]
I mean, this guy reminds me of Sergeant Slaughter, but without the hat and the sunglasses.
[21:28]
And he wore a shirt.
Stuart Wellington
[21:29]
It sounds like you're talking about all of his distinguishing characteristics.
[21:33]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[21:33]
Now, let's take a break.
[21:35]
I've got a few more toys for us to go through, but don't scroll ahead.
[21:37]
Let's take a break because we've got some sponsors on this episode.
[21:41]
Dan, would you like to tell us, the sponsors are not toy makers, unfortunately.
[21:45]
That would have been a real coup.
[21:47]
Dan, who's sponsoring us on this episode?
Dan McCoy
[21:49]
It's a real hard left turn.
[21:50]
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[21:54]
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Stuart Wellington
[21:55]
I feel like that goes hand in hand with laughing about toys.
Dan McCoy
[21:58]
It really is.
[21:59]
It does.
[22:00]
This is a time in our lives, guys, where, you know, maybe we want to chill out a little
[22:05]
bit without impairing our judgment.
[22:08]
I think that, like, that is kind of the vibe of a current society.
[22:14]
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[22:15]
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[24:57]
of toys.
Elliott Kalan
[24:58]
I mean, I didn't know I needed to make it publication ready.
[25:02]
It's...
[25:02]
I think you're doing just fine, buddy.
[25:07]
This internally used document had to be hitting the stands tomorrow.
[25:14]
It's literally just a Word document where I sent it to you as a PDF, I guess, where it's
[25:18]
one picture with a line of text on it.
Stuart Wellington
[25:20]
There's just a certain level of professionalism I've come to expect from podcasters.
Elliott Kalan
[25:25]
I want to remind everybody, as I mentioned before, if you're listening to this on the day
[25:29]
of release, that's Saturday, March 19th, that today is the day of our Flophouse live virtual
[25:34]
show where we're talking about Masters of the Universe, the greatest movie based on a
[25:38]
toy line.
[25:39]
No, of course it's not.
[25:40]
But I can't think of any off the top of my head that are better.
[25:43]
It's going to be at 9 p.m.
[25:44]
Eastern, 6 p.m.
[25:45]
Pacific.
[25:45]
It's only $10 for your ticket.
[25:47]
And if you get it, you have one week of access to the downloaded video.
[25:50]
We're going to have some new merchandise for sale during the show that's only available
[25:54]
during the week of the show.
[25:55]
And we're going to be doing new presentations and stuff.
[25:57]
It's going to be great.
[25:58]
That's theflophouse.simpletix.com for tickets.
[26:01]
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[26:05]
So that's tonight, 9 p.m.
[26:07]
Eastern, 6 p.m.
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Pacific.
[26:08]
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Jesse Thorn
[26:13]
Hi, I'm Jesse Thorne, the founder of Maximum Fun, and I have a special announcement.
[26:18]
I'm no longer embarrassed by my brother, my brother, and me.
[26:22]
You know, for years, each new episode of this supposed advice show was a fresh insult, a
[26:29]
depraved jumble of erection jokes, ghost humor, and frankly, this is for the best, very little
[26:36]
actionable advice.
[26:38]
But now, as they enter their twilight years, I'm as surprised as anyone to admit that it's
[26:44]
gotten kind of good.
[26:45]
Justin, Travis, and Griffin's witticisms are more refined, like a humor column in a fancy
[26:51]
magazine.
[26:52]
And they hardly ever say bazinga anymore.
[26:55]
So, after you've completely finished listening to every single one of all of our other shows,
[27:01]
why not join the McElroy Brothers every week for My Brother, My Brother, and Me.
S5
[27:07]
Maximum Fun is a network by and for cool, popular people.
[27:11]
But did you know it also has an offering designed to appeal to nerds?
[27:15]
A show for nerds?
Elliott Kalan
[27:17]
On Maximum Fun, the devil, you say?
S5
[27:20]
It's true.
[27:21]
It's called The Greatest Generation, and they review episodes of a television program for nerds
[27:26]
called Star Trek.
[27:28]
They've reviewed TNG, DS9, and are now reviewing Voyager.
Jesse Thorn
[27:32]
Hey, Star Trek.
[27:34]
My daughter enjoys that program.
S5
[27:36]
Well, if she enjoys that, and she enjoys humor of the Flashland variety, might I recommend
[27:40]
she subscribe to The Greatest Generation?
[27:43]
Hey, are you calling my kid a nerd?
[27:46]
Why, I oughta...
[27:47]
Well, gotta go.
[27:48]
Become a friend of DeSoto by subscribing to The Greatest Generation on MaximumFun.org today!
Elliott Kalan
[27:54]
Okay, now, without further ado, let's get to the second half of this list, which is my five
[28:00]
favorite toys based on movies.
[28:02]
Now, guys, we're getting into some really special ones here that mean a lot to me, so let's
[28:05]
scroll down to the next one.
[28:06]
Number five.
[28:08]
So let's go to number five.
[28:09]
Again, don't skip ahead.
[28:11]
And you're gonna see, I think, one of the classic tie-in figures.
[28:15]
Dan, tell me what you see.
Dan McCoy
[28:17]
It's Bob the Goon from Batman the Movie.
[28:22]
That's the...
[28:23]
That's the...
[28:24]
Tim Burton's original Batman from, what is it, 89, I think?
[28:29]
1989.
[28:30]
I forget the name of the actor.
[28:32]
He was in a lot of Jonathan Demme movies.
Stuart Wellington
[28:38]
Stop making sense.
Dan McCoy
[28:39]
Yeah, classic character actor, Bob the Goon.
[28:44]
He's got a Uzi, he's got a knife, he's got a hat, and apparently, according to this, like,
[28:52]
wham, you know, balloon here, he's got a button-activated power kick.
[28:59]
I want to see that shit in action.
[29:01]
Or, as it says, coup de pied, mécanique, action par un bouton.
Elliott Kalan
[29:08]
Yeah, so this might be a Canadian package.
[29:10]
It lists everything in English and French.
[29:11]
This is Bob the Joker's Goon, as portrayed in the movie by Tracy Walter.
[29:15]
Tracy Walter.
[29:15]
And, yeah, it is...
[29:16]
This was one of your first movie-based bad guys in toy form that I remember as a kid,
[29:22]
and I have to admit, the character of Bob the Goon didn't make a huge impression on me in the film,
[29:27]
but seeing the toy, I was like,
[29:29]
oh, I guess he must be a major character.
[29:31]
What's so striking to me about this toy is that the figure does not even look like,
[29:36]
doesn't look like the actor, and doesn't even look like the picture of the actor on the packaging.
Dan McCoy
[29:40]
Well, the picture on the packaging also doesn't look like the actor.
Elliott Kalan
[29:43]
It doesn't look like the actor, that's true.
[29:45]
I would say the picture on the packaging looks a little bit more like the actor,
[29:48]
and the figure looks more like if Willie Nelson had played Bob the Joker's Goon.
[29:52]
Sure.
[29:53]
The picture on the packaging looks more like Billy Jack.
[29:56]
Yes, he looks just like Billy Jack.
Stuart Wellington
[29:58]
If Billy Jack went bad.
[29:59]
They had all these Billy Jack figures sitting around.
[30:02]
Now, I gotta say, you said that he's a bad guy, and you know what?
[30:05]
You can tell he's a bad guy, because this is for ages five and up.
[30:09]
Yeah, this is not for kids.
[30:10]
Only five and up, you can't have Bob the Goon.
[30:12]
Your daddy's Bob the Goon.
Elliott Kalan
[30:13]
And of course, his accessories are, I think as Dan mentioned, a gun, a knife, and his hat,
[30:17]
so that his hat can come off when you need it to.
[30:20]
And go, woo!
Stuart Wellington
[30:21]
Yeah, yeah, when he sees Batman's secret identity, and his fucking hat flips off his head.
Elliott Kalan
[30:27]
And you gotta give them credit over at, I forget which company this is,
[30:31]
you gotta give them credit that with Star Wars, they'll make up a whole name and a backstory for every figure,
[30:37]
even if it's not in any way connected to what happens in the movie.
[30:40]
But with Bob, no, uh-uh, not even a last name.
[30:43]
He is Bob, he is the Joker's Goon, that is all the information you're gonna get.
[30:47]
And I hope you enjoy it.
[30:48]
To be honest, he looks more like Bob from Twin Peaks than he does like Bob in the Batman movie.
Stuart Wellington
[30:53]
Which, I would say, is for ages six and up, at least.
[30:57]
At least.
Elliott Kalan
[30:57]
But maybe it's a hidden Batman-Twin Peaks crossover, which would have been great.
[31:02]
Dan?
Dan McCoy
[31:02]
Here's something significant I would like to say about the picture of Bob the Goon.
[31:06]
So, he's wearing a hat.
[31:08]
If you look at the head.
[31:10]
That is significant, yeah.
[31:11]
If you look at the head, the hat seems to, like, cover up to, like, where his eye is on his hat.
[31:19]
As if, you know, beneath the hat, his head narrows significantly in sort of a Zippy the Pinhead,
[31:28]
the Coneheads sort of scenario.
[31:31]
Like, I do not understand how a normal human head would have this size hat worn as it is shown here.
Stuart Wellington
[31:39]
I would also say that this packaging art looks a lot like Magic the Gathering and other fantasy artist Paolo Parente's work.
[31:46]
Who knows?
[31:47]
Maybe.
Elliott Kalan
[31:48]
Could be.
[31:50]
So, that's, I mean, there's a lot of good detailing on this art.
[31:53]
The kind of expanding waist of the jacket that he's wearing is very lovingly detailed.
[31:59]
Yeah.
[32:00]
So, that's pretty nice.
[32:01]
But, yeah, you're right.
[32:01]
That hat doesn't, it looks like a big chunk of his head was removed.
[32:03]
It does not line up.
[32:04]
Yeah.
[32:05]
So, Dan, I haven't...
[32:05]
Maybe that's why it works for the Joker, because he lost part of his head and he's looking for it.
Stuart Wellington
[32:08]
Now, I haven't seen the new with the Batman movie.
[32:11]
Does Bob show up in that?
[32:13]
Please, I mean, Bob the Goon.
[32:13]
Bob the Goon does not show up in the new The Batman.
[32:16]
Oh, that's too bad.
[32:17]
The Batman.
Elliott Kalan
[32:18]
Oh, well, they're waiting for the spinoff, The Bob.
Stuart Wellington
[32:20]
I mean, maybe it wasn't long enough.
[32:22]
Do you think there's a director's cut that's like five hours long where Bob the Goon shows up?
Dan McCoy
[32:26]
The funny thing is, I went, like, again, I don't know if we, I don't think we mentioned it in this episode.
[32:32]
I think we, pull back the curtain, we recorded two things at once tonight, which is a rare occurrence, but...
Stuart Wellington
[32:38]
Which is probably why everyone's extra spicy and bad at their jobs.
Elliott Kalan
[32:42]
In the previous thing we recorded, I reckon...
[32:45]
Which is an episode that will come out a week after this one.
Dan McCoy
[32:47]
Yes, I referenced having a Almo season pass, which means that, you know, like you pay a certain amount.
[32:54]
You go and see, you can see one movie a day.
[32:57]
Dan flexing on all our listeners here.
[32:59]
Yeah, wow.
[33:00]
He can see movies whenever he wants.
[33:01]
Taking Squarespace money and putting it right toward the Almo.
[33:04]
My point is, I will see certain things that maybe I wouldn't see otherwise.
[33:09]
The other week, I did a double feature of Uncharted and The Batman.
[33:17]
Wow.
Elliott Kalan
[33:17]
Dan, you need hobbies.
[33:19]
You gotta find something to do with your time.
Dan McCoy
[33:22]
I think life may turn around.
[33:25]
My point is, The Batman famously...
[33:31]
That's what we all keep pushing for, right.
[33:33]
Three hours long.
[33:34]
So watching Uncharted before The Batman may have added to my impression of The Batman, which was...
[33:41]
It was an old-fashioned butt buster.
[33:45]
It...
[33:45]
Yeah.
[33:45]
My butt felt in pain after watching The Three Hour of The Batman.
Stuart Wellington
[33:50]
I fantasize about the times when I would get to go do double features at the movie theater.
[33:56]
I haven't done that in a long time.
[33:58]
I have not done that in a very long time.
[33:59]
Still, my best one was The Witch.
[34:01]
Or no, it was Upgrade followed by Hereditary.
[34:05]
Oh, man.
[34:05]
What a fucking double feature.
[34:07]
Yeah, wow.
Dan McCoy
[34:07]
I was fucking wasted by the end of that shit.
[34:09]
Yeah, if anything, I can't argue with that other than I would probably switch them.
[34:13]
I feel like Upgrade would be a little bit more fun after the...
[34:17]
Well, why don't you go back in time and tell Stuart years ago to do...
Stuart Wellington
[34:20]
Do it the other way, Dan.
[34:21]
Yeah.
[34:22]
Man, after...
[34:23]
When people first see Tony Collette crawling on them walls, everyone's hooting and hollering
[34:27]
at rules.
[34:28]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[34:29]
Now, that's a fun one to see in the theater.
[34:31]
Oh, what a movie.
Elliott Kalan
[34:33]
That has one of my favorite floating body effects.
[34:36]
Hereditary.
[34:37]
Yeah, that's great.
[34:38]
Yeah.
[34:38]
So, anyway, that's Batman, Bob the Joker's goon.
[34:40]
It's a classic toy.
[34:42]
Dan recommends The Batman.
[34:43]
He thinks it's great.
[34:44]
It'll make your butt bust.
[34:45]
So, let's move on to the next page.
[34:47]
Bust your butt at the bat.
[34:49]
Now, this is, again, another toy based on a movie.
[34:52]
Scroll down to the next one.
[34:53]
Don't scroll any further.
[34:54]
Just go to number four.
[34:55]
Okay.
Elliott Kalan
[34:55]
Ooh, I love this.
[34:57]
Now, this is the bull alien from the Aliens toy line from 1993.
[35:02]
Were you guys aware that in 1993, almost 15 years after the movie Aliens came out, they
[35:08]
released an Aliens toy line where they imagined, hey, what would happen if the alien was in
[35:13]
different kinds of animals?
[35:14]
Right.
[35:15]
And this is what it would like coming out of a bull.
[35:16]
So, describe this bull for me, Dan.
Dan McCoy
[35:18]
This is like if an alien infected bull from TV's night court is what you're saying.
Elliott Kalan
[35:25]
No, no, not at all.
[35:26]
No, you're misunderstanding.
[35:27]
That's a basic.
[35:28]
I understand, but that's a misunderstanding.
[35:30]
It's not actually.
[35:32]
Okay.
Stuart Wellington
[35:33]
Which is weird because Richard Maul's blood is already acidic.
Elliott Kalan
[35:37]
Yeah.
[35:38]
But that's just because he eats so much ketchup and vinegar.
[35:41]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[35:41]
Well, I would say about this, it looks like a bull and it looks like an alien.
[35:47]
And it is also, it looks like someone has sort of half, haphazardly, half-heartedly spray
[35:55]
painted part of this bull alien red.
[35:58]
I don't think there's a lot of rhyme nor reason to which parts of this are sort of reddish,
[36:05]
but that's what it is.
Elliott Kalan
[36:05]
Now, describe to me again, what makes it bullish?
Dan McCoy
[36:10]
What makes it bullish?
Elliott Kalan
[36:12]
Other than the fact that it's hedging big on gold right now.
Dan McCoy
[36:16]
Yeah.
[36:17]
It feels good about the future of the market.
[36:20]
The way its legs are are kind of as if it's like hoofing at the ground.
[36:27]
I don't know how you say it.
[36:29]
Stamping as if it's going to, you know, charge and it's got some bull horns.
[36:35]
Those would be the two big bull things.
Stuart Wellington
[36:35]
Now, Elliot, are these the same figure in both pictures?
[36:38]
Because one's neck is way shorter than the other neck.
Elliott Kalan
[36:42]
So that's the thing.
[36:43]
It had a head-butting power where its neck could extend.
[36:47]
So this is it standing up with the neck extended and also sitting forward.
Stuart Wellington
[36:50]
Now we're talking about the alien that's already got a weird amount of phallic imagery in it.
Elliott Kalan
[36:55]
Yes.
[36:55]
And now it also has an extending veiny neck as well.
[37:00]
Yes.
[37:00]
You've understood it completely.
[37:01]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[37:02]
That was H.R.
[37:03]
Giger's fucking design notes to the bull alien design team.
Elliott Kalan
[37:08]
I should also – you're going to be happy to know that there's also a gorilla alien which had a head that you could squeeze and water would squirt out of it.
[37:14]
Just continuing that imagery.
[37:17]
Now, the thing I like about this, the bullet alien in particular, I love the horns.
[37:21]
It makes it look satanic, like it's a demon alien.
[37:23]
But also, you can kind of build your own story around it.
[37:26]
Like, hey, what if Ripley – she's had a hard time with all these aliens.
[37:30]
She just wants to take a load off.
[37:32]
She goes to the Calgary Stampede, the famous show in Calgary.
[37:36]
And she just wants to take in some bulls at this rodeo show.
[37:38]
But then, uh-oh, there's an alien inside one of the bulls.
[37:42]
And it gets out.
[37:44]
Maybe it uses its horns to tear through someone's belly.
[37:46]
A bull's belly, I guess.
[37:48]
And it's just wrecking havoc.
[37:49]
And now she's got to get on a cow or a horse and rope that bull.
[37:53]
And there's endless hours of imaginative play that way.
[37:57]
You make up your own story.
Stuart Wellington
[37:57]
I mean, for me, it's – I don't know about you guys, but I was just tired of Ferdinand
[38:03]
just sitting under that fucking tree, just dicking around.
[38:06]
I think he should get a xenomorph on the face and squirt out a little bull alien.
Elliott Kalan
[38:11]
Yeah, and they take that bull alien to the bullfighting ring.
[38:14]
And all the lovely ladies have flowers in the hair.
[38:17]
And he sniffs the flowers and just tears the head off of the Toreador.
[38:20]
Yeah, that's just how it happens.
[38:22]
So that's the aliens, bull alien.
[38:23]
Again, I don't have the packaging, so I don't know what ages this was recommended for.
[38:27]
But this was 1993.
[38:28]
I can assume three and up.
Dan McCoy
[38:31]
I'm going to say 80 to 85.
Elliott Kalan
[38:34]
Yeah, this is 1993.
[38:35]
So it's still the era before toys were like a grown-up collectible explicitly.
[38:40]
So let's move on to number two.
[38:41]
Now this – no, let's start to number three.
[38:43]
Let's move on to the next one, number three.
[38:44]
This is the toy I wanted the most when I was a kid.
[38:46]
Oh, look at this.
[38:47]
So this is the city set from the commercials for the real Ghostbusters toys.
[38:53]
This was not a toy available in stores.
[38:55]
This was the set that the professional commercial directors and set designers made to show off the Ghostbusters toys.
[39:02]
This was not a toy you could buy.
[39:04]
This was a little bit of a tease on your part, Elliot.
[39:06]
Well, this was a tease on the part of the advertisers, Dan, because this is what I always wanted to use with my Ghostbusters toys.
[39:11]
And yet I could not because it didn't exist.
[39:13]
It was not buyable.
[39:14]
Yeah.
[39:14]
And I would just watch these commercials and I'd be like, sell us the buildings.
[39:18]
I want the city buildings.
[39:19]
That's what I want.
Stuart Wellington
[39:20]
Yeah.
[39:21]
You wish that you had some kind of – you were some kind of oligarch who could just buy whatever you wanted.
Elliott Kalan
[39:27]
Yeah.
[39:27]
I could just call up the commercial and say, bring that to me, and they'd have to do it.
Dan McCoy
[39:33]
Now, these are impressive little sets.
[39:34]
They look like, you know, the old HBO feature presentation city or whatever.
Elliott Kalan
[39:40]
One of my favorite pieces of filmed anything is that old HBO promo.
[39:46]
It's a city at night.
[39:47]
The camera swoops through it.
[39:49]
You hear the buses honking.
[39:50]
It goes over the suburbs.
[39:51]
Then it goes over the mountains.
[39:52]
It goes into the sky.
[39:54]
What's this coming out of the sky, coming to us out of the universe, this cosmic visitation?
[39:58]
It's the HBO logo.
[40:00]
We go towards it.
[40:00]
We go into the O of the HBO logo.
[40:03]
And unfathomable, unfathomable universal energy.
[40:06]
Prisms of pure tranquility and understanding.
[40:10]
And galactic harmony are flying through this O.
[40:13]
And what does it bring us?
[40:14]
Your feature presentation.
[40:15]
Oh, I just love it.
[40:16]
Just imagine the music makes my neck tingle.
[40:18]
So, Dan, you're saying?
[40:19]
No.
Stuart Wellington
[40:20]
And it's the adventures of Ford Fairlane.
Elliott Kalan
[40:24]
This thing – this camera takes you up –
[40:27]
The adventures of Pluto Nash.
[40:28]
It takes you up out of the mundane world of every now and up into the sky into a magical place where the toy is constantly playing starring Richard Fryer.
[40:37]
Yeah.
[40:39]
Here's Beastmaster.
[40:40]
Miami Blues is playing.
[40:42]
And now that we've lifted you, now that you've ascended to the heavens like unto the rapture, here's Dream On starring Brian Ben-Ben.
Stuart Wellington
[40:50]
Still not on HBO Max.
[40:52]
Enjoy Hot to Trot.
[40:55]
I will enjoy that shit.
[41:00]
Yeah, I will.
[41:01]
I'm a kid.
[41:01]
I don't know it's bad.
[41:02]
I don't know either.
[41:03]
It's got two things I love, a talking animal and fucking bobcat.
[41:07]
And people who are hot to try.
Elliott Kalan
[41:10]
Now, do you think the producers of that movie that there was an old man who was like, we want to do a talking movie about a talking horse with bobcat Goldswede.
[41:18]
A talking horse and a talking bobcat?
[41:20]
Yeah, make the movie.
[41:21]
And then he saw it and he was like, wait, the bobcat's a guy?
S5
[41:25]
Get this.
[41:25]
It's called Hot to Trot.
[41:27]
Get it?
[41:27]
Because I'm a horse.
Dan McCoy
[41:29]
Now, I was going to say, like, this is a lovely.
[41:32]
The hot part, of course, is bobcat in this case.
Elliott Kalan
[41:35]
I don't know.
[41:36]
Horses are an inherently sexy animal.
[41:38]
It's those haunches.
Stuart Wellington
[41:39]
So bobcat's the one that trots?
[41:41]
I don't fucking think so, Elliot.
Dan McCoy
[41:44]
I would say that these, like, look, I would watch these commercials too, Elliot.
[41:51]
And I would be like, man, if I only could have these cool sets that they're playing in, like, that would be so cool.
[41:59]
But it didn't even need to.
[42:02]
What I'm trying to get to is it didn't even need to be, like, these nice city sets.
[42:06]
Like, I would watch these G.I. Joe commercials, whatever, or they'd be like, they'd, like, have, like, rocks arranged, like, artistically.
[42:14]
And maybe there'd be, like, some water.
[42:16]
There'd be, like, a pool of water.
[42:18]
And I'd be like, awesome.
Elliott Kalan
[42:20]
Yeah, there's always, like, a little river and, like, a fort made out of sticks and things that they could blow apart with missiles.
[42:25]
And I didn't know how to make that stuff as a kid.
[42:27]
But I felt like this was the – what was weird about that was – so the way my child mind worked was those G.I. Joe commercials, I was like, some kid made that.
[42:34]
And they're better at it than me.
[42:35]
And these Ghostbusters ads, I'd be like, well, no kid made this.
[42:38]
They bought it.
[42:39]
Somebody bought this for them.
[42:40]
And I want it.
[42:41]
Because if you can buy it, I can have it as long as I've got the green.
[42:44]
And that's how I got into the vice industry just to feed my Ghostbusters realistic building habit.
Dan McCoy
[42:50]
First you get the money.
[42:51]
Then you get the power.
[42:52]
Then you get the Ghostbusters sets.
Elliott Kalan
[42:56]
Yeah.
[42:57]
Oh, child – oh, just memories.
[42:58]
So let's move on.
[42:59]
So that's number three.
[43:00]
We've got two more left.
[43:01]
Let's go through – the second one, this is my second favorite movie toy of all time.
[43:04]
Oh, classic.
[43:05]
This is a classic one.
[43:06]
This is a classic one.
[43:07]
Stuart, what is it?
[43:08]
Tell me what it is, Stu.
[43:09]
It's Rocky the Meat.
[43:13]
So this is a toy.
[43:14]
Unlike some of the other ones on here, I actually own this.
[43:17]
I still have it in my garage.
[43:18]
It was given to me as a gift by, I believe, our former coworker, Daniel Radosh.
Dan McCoy
[43:23]
No, it was given by me.
Elliott Kalan
[43:25]
What the fuck?
[43:25]
I know, I know.
[43:26]
I know, I know.
[43:27]
Oh, God.
[43:28]
You got me.
[43:29]
I wanted you to get mad.
[43:30]
I wanted you to get mad.
[43:31]
Yeah, Dan gave me this.
[43:32]
I was like, you got the dance wrong.
[43:33]
Yeah, Dan gave me this.
[43:35]
And it is from the Rocky line where they were like, you know what?
[43:39]
We're just going to make one of the meat that he punches, that he practices on.
[43:42]
And it is a package.
[43:43]
It's just a side of beef and then a bloody butcher's apron that you could put on the Rocky figure.
[43:49]
And my favorite thing about it is it just says – it doesn't say side of beef or like punching exercise.
[43:54]
It just says the meat in big letters.
Dan McCoy
[43:56]
Yeah, because they're like, what does Arby's have?
[43:59]
It's got this.
[44:01]
Rocky's the meat.
Stuart Wellington
[44:03]
That's the moral.
[44:05]
There's also a date on here.
Elliott Kalan
[44:09]
November 21st, 1976.
[44:11]
So all the Rocky figures, they had dated on it which movie they were from basically.
[44:16]
They would say that which Rocky movie they were from and what year that movie was from.
[44:21]
So that just shows you this is the original Rocky, you know?
[44:24]
The famous meat.
[44:25]
Oh, I like that.
Stuart Wellington
[44:26]
What I love – yeah, specifically it's listed 21st of November, 1976.
[44:30]
The meat versus Rocky Balbo.
[44:32]
So in the case the meat gets top billing.
Elliott Kalan
[44:35]
Well, and because you know why?
[44:36]
Because the meat won on points technically.
[44:38]
Yeah, technically.
[44:39]
Rocky got the TKO, but the meat won on points in the end.
[44:42]
The judges were in the meat's pocket.
[44:43]
The rumble and the meat locker.
[44:46]
And what I like about this too is it is a Star Wars level of making an action figure out of anything.
[44:51]
Yeah.
[44:52]
Anything that could be made into a figure.
[44:53]
But for Rocky, a series that has never been, I think, a particularly kid-friendly film series, you know?
[45:01]
But anyway, the meat.
[45:02]
You can't ask for anything better than a side of beef action figure.
[45:06]
Or can you – let's scroll down to number one for my favorite toys from a movie.
[45:11]
Now, again, this is a little bit cheap because these are not real toys.
[45:14]
But these are – this is the My Dinner with Andre action figures from the movie Waiting for Guffman, which are –
[45:21]
like the joke in it is, well, they just sit there and talk, right?
[45:24]
Yeah, that's what I want my action figures to do.
[45:25]
I can get action figures that fight ghosts or superheroes or whatever,
[45:29]
but two figures that understand the importance of a good conversation and a good meal, that's hard to find.
[45:35]
It's incredible, yeah.
Dan McCoy
[45:36]
You want an action figure like Andre Gregory who's going to come in and tell you about some, like,
[45:42]
bullshit spiritual experience he had across the world.
[45:45]
And you're like, that sounds interesting, but I enjoy sleeping under my electric blanket.
Elliott Kalan
[45:50]
I mean, yeah, that's – I mean, the one that I really want is the Wallace Shawn figure
[45:53]
because finally an action figure who just listens, who's curious about what I have to say,
[45:56]
who knows the questions that will get me out of my shell, you know.
[46:01]
So, guys, what would you do with your My Dinner with Andre figures if you were playing with them?
[46:05]
What scenario would you put them in?
Dan McCoy
[46:09]
Well, they would have probably dinner together in some form.
Elliott Kalan
[46:13]
Okay, so sticking pretty much to the template of the movie.
Stuart Wellington
[46:16]
You know, yeah, well –
[46:17]
Well, I would say just like with my G.I. Joe figures,
[46:20]
I would test the limits of the physicality and the flexibility of these figures.
[46:24]
I'd stretch them and pull them and see –
[46:28]
I would take them to the edges of pleasure and pain.
Elliott Kalan
[46:32]
Okay, interesting.
[46:33]
Where that intersects, you know.
[46:35]
Now, the thing is I wish these were real figures
[46:37]
because I want to see them in that package that says ages four and up
[46:40]
for the Wallace Shawn figure
[46:42]
and to know that some kid would get it in the –
[46:45]
some kid's grandma went to this toy store.
[46:48]
It was the day before Christmas.
[46:50]
The shells were cleared out except for this one Wallace Shawn figure.
[46:53]
And it gets brought to this kid and it's the most magical Christmas.
[46:56]
And they strap Wallace Shawn to a model rocket and shoot it up into the sky.
[47:01]
And Wallace Shawn finally achieves his dream of going into outer space.
[47:04]
Did you guys know that was his dream?
[47:06]
I didn't.
[47:07]
I just learned now.
[47:07]
I just assume it is.
[47:08]
He's never said it, but I get a real wants to go into space vibe from him.
Dan McCoy
[47:12]
I figure he just wants to, you know, produce the best production of Chekhov that has ever happened.
[47:19]
Fair.
[47:20]
In space.
[47:21]
In space, yeah.
[47:22]
It's easier to do Chekhov without gravity.
[47:25]
Jason X plus The Cherry Orchard starring Wallace Shawn.
[47:32]
As Jason?
[47:34]
I don't know, man.
[47:36]
I'm just the money man.
[47:37]
Jason is the star.
Elliott Kalan
[47:38]
Yeah.
[47:39]
So, guys, thank you for joining me on this little trip down my favorite movie-based action figures from the Gremlins toys of my youth to the Star Wars George Lucas's family toys of my young adulthood until today.
[47:53]
My love of my dinner with Andre and my wish to reenact it in toy form.
Stuart Wellington
[47:58]
I really appreciate it.
[47:59]
Ellie, do you think they're ever going to make a movie where Jason kills a fuckload of Argonauts?
Elliott Kalan
[48:05]
Oh, you know that they should.
[48:07]
They should make-
Stuart Wellington
[48:08]
He's not Jason.
[48:09]
Jason Voorhees.
Elliott Kalan
[48:09]
I mean, Jason from Jason and the Argonauts, he merely-
[48:11]
Yeah, he was on the same team.
[48:14]
I mean, he's an asshole.
[48:16]
He is famously an asshole.
[48:17]
He's terrible with Medea.
[48:19]
He seduces Medea into killing her family, you know.
[48:22]
But I feel like they're leaving money on the table to not do Jason and the Argonauts, and Jason Voorhees has been hurled backwards in time to antiquity.
[48:30]
And just on the loose, just going after- I mean, you have to have a scene where- I know it's conflating time periods, but nobody cares.
[48:36]
You have to have a scene where Socrates is like on trial, and then Jason chops his head off or something like- or like Jason stabs Julius Caesar, you know.
Stuart Wellington
[48:44]
Jason takes the Argonauts.
[48:46]
Mm-hmm.
[48:47]
Yep.
[48:47]
Jason is inside the Trojan horse.
Elliott Kalan
[48:50]
Yeah.
[48:50]
Oh, that would be amazing.
[48:51]
And they're like, oh, let's bring this horse in here.
[48:52]
And he just busts out, and he's just slashing people's heads left and right.
[48:56]
Jason goes to Hades.
Stuart Wellington
[48:58]
Yep.
[48:58]
And Achilleus is like, oh, I can beat this dude.
[49:01]
And then Jason stabs him in the ankle with a machete, and he just fucking dies.
Elliott Kalan
[49:06]
Yeah.
[49:06]
Oh, this- you know what?
[49:07]
Okay.
[49:09]
That's what the mini should have been about.
[49:10]
Everybody go and erase your memories of this mini.
[49:12]
We're going to do a new mini that's all about Jason versus the Argonauts.
[49:15]
And every character from ancient Greek and Roman myth and history.
[49:20]
But, guys, I'm glad we could all hang out together tonight.
[49:23]
If you'd like to hear more of us talking about toys or just anything in particular, tune in tonight, 9 p.m. Eastern, 6 p.m. Pacific, the Flophouse live show.
[49:32]
We're going to talk about Masters of the Universe.
[49:34]
I will talk more about toys, specifically He-Man toys and other toys related to said He-Man toys.
[49:40]
Some of my very true real-life embarrassing memories will be said.
[49:44]
And it's all for only $10.
[49:46]
And Dan and Stu have some real surprises lined up that I don't know what they are.
[49:49]
They're even surprises to me, and I'm excited about it.
[49:51]
So go to theflophouse.simpleticks.com.
[49:53]
Again, that's theflophouse.simpleticks.com.
[49:55]
And join us, won't you, tonight with Masters of the Universe.
[49:59]
And if you can't make it the night that this is released, get your ticket anyway, because you can still watch the video for one week only.
[50:05]
One week only.
[50:06]
One week only.
[50:08]
Like in Dreamgirls, but it's a week instead of a night.
[50:10]
Oh, okay.
Dan McCoy
[50:11]
Oh, I get it.
[50:11]
Yeah, sure.
Elliott Kalan
[50:13]
No, it's cool.
[50:13]
Yeah, it's cool.
Dan McCoy
[50:14]
For the Flophouse, I've been Elliot Kalin.
[50:17]
I've been Dan McCoy.
[50:21]
It's me, Stuart Willington.
Elliott Kalan
[50:24]
Wishing you champagne wishes and toy dreams.
[50:28]
Good night, everybody.
[50:30]
Night.
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In honor of our Masters of the Universe streaming show (tonight, 3/19 - tickets still available now & for another week!) Elliott takes us on a very silly tour through some of his favorite movie toy tie-ins.
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