FH Mini 156 - The Peach Pit, with Hallie!

[0:00] Hey, everybody, and welcome back to the Peach Pit.

Stuart Wellington

[0:07] That's right, your number one destination for post-show commentary on everyone's favorite,

[0:14] at least top five favorite, bad movie podcast, The Flophouse.

[0:18] I'm your host, Stuart Wellington, and I have some great guests here today.

[0:24] Three guests coming in to talk about your favorite show and mine, The Flophouse.

[0:29] That's right.

[0:30] I'm going to be joined today by Dan McCoy, Elliot Kalin, and Hallie Haglund.

[0:34] Hey, guys, thanks so much for joining me.

[0:37] Thanks for this always unexpected trip into the Peach Pit.

[0:41] It's our pleasure.

[0:43] I did send an email to your publicists and your email.

Dan McCoy

[0:49] Oh, that's your problem, Stuart.

[0:51] I'm dead in Hollywood.

Stuart Wellington

[0:52] Yeah, the email I sent was to Dan McCoy and Elliot with one T and Hallie with like 17 Ls.

[1:03] Yeah, yeah.

[1:04] Those are the wrong ones.

[1:05] It's only 16.

[1:06] Yeah.

[1:07] Well, so I sent a bunch of questions over to you guys.

Elliott Kalan

[1:10] Dan, it's true.

[1:11] Dan's career is over.

[1:12] He can't get arrested in this town, which is too bad since he's the Black Dahlia killer.

Dan McCoy

[1:18] You'd think I was too young, but...

[1:20] No, no.

[1:20] So, Hallie, have you been on the Peach Pit before?

Hallie Haglund

[1:23] I mean, I've been on the after show.

[1:25] Is that the same thing?

Stuart Wellington

[1:27] This is...

[1:27] Yes.

[1:29] I think this is the after show of...

[1:31] Maybe...

[1:31] I think you're on the after show of the Peach Pit, maybe?

[1:33] I don't remember.

[1:34] So, the Peach Pit is, of course, the...

Elliott Kalan

[1:36] Way to hang out on Beverly Hills 902L.

[1:38] Right, exactly.

Stuart Wellington

[1:39] I know that.

[1:40] This is one of the many reoccurring mini themes for the Flophouse podcast.

[1:47] This is the Peach Pit, which is a sub show hosted by me, Stuart Wellington.

[1:50] I'm also one of the hosts of the Flophouse.

[1:52] It gets confusing sometimes.

[1:54] So, what we talk about here is we talk about aspects of the Flophouse podcast and shed a

[1:59] little more light on those aspects for our listeners.

[2:03] So, one of the things we're talking about this week is Flop TV.

[2:08] Wow.

[2:08] You guys begged me to come on the Peach Pit to talk about Flop TV.

[2:12] Can you tell me what that's all about, Dan?

[2:14] I'm going to educate you on your own show.

Elliott Kalan

[2:19] You're the host.

[2:20] We could say Flop TV is the one-hour internet video live broadcast version of the show.

[2:27] And we're about to have season four this September.

[2:30] Just a month will be starting.

[2:32] And so, it's the first Saturday of each month.

[2:34] And it goes from Saturday through February.

[2:37] And it's like watching...

[2:39] Saturday through February.

[2:40] That's not what I'm going to say.

[2:40] Sorry, September through February.

[2:42] Thank you.

[2:43] And it's just...

[2:44] It's like the Flophouse, but you can watch it and the episodes are a little shorter.

Dan McCoy

[2:47] Yeah.

[2:47] If you go to theflophouse.simpletix, that's T-I-X dot com, you can get tickets for the whole

[2:54] season.

[2:54] If that's the sort of thing you're into.

Elliott Kalan

[2:57] So...

[2:58] If you like us pivoting to video, this is the way to go.

Stuart Wellington

[3:02] So, yes.

[3:03] So, pivoting to video.

[3:04] What was the inspiration for doing a series of virtual live shows, Elliot?

Elliott Kalan

[3:10] Well, I think we were...

[3:11] I think there were two inspirations.

[3:12] One was looking for new ways to kind of express the Flophouse style, to do Flophouse things

[3:19] together.

[3:20] And the other was looking for new ways to make money off of the Flophouse.

[3:23] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[3:23] I think a big part of it was...

[3:25] I think it started during the writer's strike.

[3:28] And so, it was sort of like, oh, how can we extend this?

[3:33] How can we do something during the strike?

[3:36] You know, and that has continued to be, you know, sort of like a personal strike for me.

Stuart Wellington

[3:42] An uncalled strike.

Dan McCoy

[3:44] Uncalled strike.

[3:44] Like an enforced strike.

[3:45] Yeah.

[3:45] A strike that the industry, again, has called against me.

[3:50] But Elliot, you know...

Elliott Kalan

[3:51] You're what they call an incel, involuntary celibate from work.

Dan McCoy

[3:54] Yeah.

[3:54] Whereas Elliot has too much work, he is...

[3:56] Yeah.

[3:56] Oh, boy.

Elliott Kalan

[3:57] I should really spread the wealth.

[3:58] Instead, I'm sucking it all up for myself.

[4:00] He-he-he.

[4:00] Shoving it in my greedy maw.

[4:02] But I think one of the things, also speaking about Flop TV, is that there's something...

[4:06] Working in television, which is collapsing currently, and it's harder and harder to make things.

[4:12] It was very exciting for us to be able to do something that we didn't need permission from anybody.

[4:16] We could just do it.

[4:17] Once we decided, between the three of us, to, like, put out a six-episode video version of the show,

[4:21] where we have presentations, and we have video segments, things like that, we could just do it.

[4:26] We didn't need anyone's permission.

[4:27] So, we decided to do it.

[4:28] We grindled it ourselves, which is exciting.

Stuart Wellington

[4:29] You guys have always told me that the best part about making TV is all the layers of bosses you get to deal with.

[4:35] Yeah, exactly.

Elliott Kalan

[4:36] Actually, you're a misheard of.

[4:37] What I said was the best part...

[4:38] The people saying no.

[4:40] The gatekeepers are what I really love about it.

[4:42] Actually, you misheard what I said was the best part of waking up is Folgers in my cup.

[4:46] And I stand by that.

Dan McCoy

[4:48] Your athletic cup is what you're talking about.

Elliott Kalan

[4:49] Yeah, I take Folger coffee grounds, pour them into my jockstrap, and I just walk around all day.

[4:55] And then there's a rich, smooth smell that comes from here.

[4:58] I find the caffeine gets into my blood better when I absorb it through my scrotum.

[5:02] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[5:03] And it keeps werewolves away.

[5:07] It sure does.

[5:08] None of them have approached me.

Elliott Kalan

[5:09] I've never seen a werewolf.

[5:10] I've never seen one in my life.

[5:13] Yeah.

[5:15] Yet to encounter one, so you know that the coffee in my underpants is doing the job.

Stuart Wellington

[5:22] Is that what Captain Underpants is about?

Dan McCoy

[5:25] Yeah, that is what Captain Underpants is.

[5:26] What is Captain Underpants about, Dan?

[5:27] I think it's about a superhero who wears underpants, right?

Stuart Wellington

[5:31] I think that's more for children.

[5:33] Do children like underpants guys?

[5:36] Dan and I can be exempt from answering as well.

[5:37] Children do like underpants guys, yeah.

Hallie Haglund

[5:40] Except they don't really like it when you call it underpants.

[5:42] My children don't.

Elliott Kalan

[5:43] No, they think it sounds babyish, right?

[5:45] Yeah, but I still do it.

[5:46] But that's where it belongs under their pants.

[5:48] They like to call it panties, yeah.

[5:51] Gross.

Hallie Haglund

[5:52] They like to call it a negligee.

Stuart Wellington

[5:56] They can't spell it.

[5:58] Mommy, give me my negligee.

Hallie Haglund

[6:02] Help me put on my negligee, Mommy.

[6:05] You're four years old.

[6:06] You can put on your own negligee.

Elliott Kalan

[6:10] Have you seen, there was a billboard I drove by the other day that just said panties in big letters.

[6:15] And I was like, what?

Stuart Wellington

[6:18] Did you forget yours?

[6:20] Yeah, Elliot crashes his car, climbs out of the steaming wreck of his vehicle, and it's like, somebody answer the billboard.

Hallie Haglund

[6:28] He was like, oh no.

[6:30] Oh wait, that's just my coffee.

[6:31] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[6:32] Oh yeah.

[6:32] He didn't poop in his pants.

Elliott Kalan

[6:34] No, no.

[6:35] That was the indication.

[6:36] No, but my poop is like coffee grounds, yeah.

[6:38] So, what are we talking about today, Stu?

[6:44] Well, I had a lot of questions.

[6:45] And I should say, my poop is like coffee grounds because I'm a syphilis.

[6:48] I feed myself coffee beans, and then I poop them out, and then sell them, yeah?

Hallie Haglund

[6:55] You're like a bat, right?

[6:57] Isn't that, aren't coffee beans like bats?

[7:00] Is there some, there's some intersection between bat guano and coffee beans?

[7:05] I mean, bat guano is a great fertilizer, but I don't know.

Stuart Wellington

[7:07] Yeah, but the, yes, what is it, a civet?

[7:09] A civet, yeah, it's a cat.

[7:10] It's like a cat.

[7:11] It's a type of cat, and then they get it out of the cat shit.

[7:14] Now, the argument is that.

[7:16] Well, what does the bat involve?

[7:17] You introduced the bat.

[7:18] Nobody else has mentioned that.

[7:21] But the thing about the cat, the argument is whether or not the enzymes within the cat's stomach

[7:25] is what makes those coffee beans taste better, or if it's just a selection process that the cats are going to be eating the best beans.

[7:33] Oh, I see.

[7:33] And you need the bat to catch the cat that swallows the beans.

Hallie Haglund

[7:38] Wait, but does the bat, does the cat chew up the beans, or they just don't?

[7:43] They just swallow them, I think.

[7:44] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[7:45] Yeah.

[7:45] It passes through their system, yeah.

[7:47] Uh-huh.

[7:47] Why don't they chew?

[7:48] They don't grind.

[7:49] And then you got that rich cat flavor.

Elliott Kalan

[7:51] Yeah.

[7:51] How often have you drank coffee and said, needs more cat?

Stuart Wellington

[7:54] Yeah.

[7:54] I don't know.

[7:55] Do cats have, like, do they have, like, good grinding teeth?

[7:58] Did we, uh...

[7:59] No, I don't.

[8:00] I think their teeth are for tearing, for the most part.

Dan McCoy

[8:02] I certainly don't.

[8:02] Archie had to have several of his teeth.

[8:04] So how do you pick the movies for flop TV?

Elliott Kalan

[8:07] I just want to mention, before we get to that, I would say one person did drink some coffee and say needs more cat,

[8:12] and that was, of course, Alf, Gordon Shumway.

[8:15] That's true.

[8:15] Continues to, yeah.

[8:16] I'm going to look up this cat coffee thing.

[8:18] Thank you.

Stuart Wellington

[8:19] I'll be back.

[8:20] So how do you pick the movies for flop TV?

[8:22] I feel like the first season we had a collection of regular mentions.

[8:26] Do you want me to go down the list here?

[8:28] Sure.

[8:28] We have movies like Beastmaster 2, Cool World, Hot Dog, and...

[8:32] Hot Dog the Movie and Hamburger the Motion Picture.

[8:34] That was our meat double feature, yeah.

[8:35] Yeah.

[8:36] Over the Top, Ballistic, X vs. Sever, and finally, Nuki.

[8:40] Now, Hallie, have you seen any of these six movies?

[8:42] She was looking up cats, I think.

Hallie Haglund

[8:44] The best tasting coffee might be the one that bats got to first.

[8:48] This is from Food and Wine Magazine.

[8:50] Oh, wow.

[8:51] So coffee seems like it's a little out of their purview.

Stuart Wellington

[8:52] It's not a food or wine.

[8:53] Tom Colicchio must have written it.

Dan McCoy

[8:55] I hadn't heard that bats had gotten into the game, too.

[8:57] Yeah, yeah.

[8:58] They saw how good things were for the cats, and they were like, we got to get in on that action.

Elliott Kalan

[9:01] What's good for the cat is good for the bats.

[9:02] I think they're a little too late, though.

[9:04] As the old saying goes.

Stuart Wellington

[9:07] So these first movies were mainly, were they just regular mentions on the show?

[9:13] That was the theme.

Elliott Kalan

[9:14] They were movies that we had mentioned a lot on the show in a joke setting, and it was like, you know what?

[9:18] Let's finally dig into these movies.

[9:20] Now, of those six movies...

[9:21] Example.

Stuart Wellington

[9:21] Yeah, so we had Beastmaster 2, Cool World, Hot Dog the Movie, and Hamburger the Motion Picture, Over the Top, Ballistic X vs. Sever, and Nuki.

[9:29] Now, watching any of them again, were any of them surprises?

[9:33] Did you like them?

[9:34] Are you like, I shouldn't have mentioned this so many fucking times?

Dan McCoy

[9:37] I mean, I think that in terms of enjoyment, we peaked early with Beastmaster 2, if I recall, for that season, at least.

Stuart Wellington

[9:44] I think I like Cool World the most, though.

[9:47] Yeah?

[9:47] I think, I mean...

[9:48] But I'm also dumb.

Dan McCoy

[9:50] No, no, no.

[9:51] You're not dumb.

Stuart Wellington

[9:51] You're just gross.

[9:52] Yeah, thank you.

[9:54] I definitely have an affection.

[9:55] I'm just gross that way.

Elliott Kalan

[9:56] Yeah, you're just that Cormac McCarthy twisted feel.

Dan McCoy

[10:00] I have an affection for Cool World, but it's a really abrasive movie.

Elliott Kalan

[10:04] I find it genuinely unpleasant to watch.

[10:06] But on the other hand...

[10:07] But your kids loved it.

[10:08] But they loved it.

[10:09] They thought it was great.

[10:10] I think the...

[10:11] I mean, having said that, just showed my younger son, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, the other day.

[10:15] Big success.

[10:16] Very similar movies.

[10:17] Yeah.

[10:18] So, I mean, they hoped they were.

[10:21] I think...

[10:22] But the one I found the most unpleasant was Hamburger the Motion Picture.

[10:25] And I was not ready for how noxious I was going to find that movie.

[10:30] But I think I did enjoy Beastmaster 2 the most of all of them.

Stuart Wellington

[10:33] Can you paint a picture of Hamburger the Motion Picture?

[10:34] Because I'm assuming Hallie is not familiar with it.

Elliott Kalan

[10:36] Hallie, have you never seen Hamburger the Motion Picture?

[10:38] I don't even know why I'm here.

[10:42] Hamburger the Motion Picture is a not quite TNA comedy where it's like a bunch of people who are all kind of weird...

[10:50] TNA?

Stuart Wellington

[10:52] Like tits and ass?

[10:52] Yes.

Elliott Kalan

[10:53] Like all kinds of silly losers.

[10:54] That's the TNA that we're talking about.

[10:56] They go to a university that's going to teach them how to work at a fast food chain.

[11:00] And they're all kind of...

[11:01] So it's like almost a college comedy and not quite.

[11:03] But then there's them taking over the restaurant and there's a lot of kind of like racist jokes, misogynist jokes.

[11:09] It's just not...

[11:10] It's not a fun movie.

Stuart Wellington

[11:11] And this is not an animated movie.

Elliott Kalan

[11:13] This is a live action movie.

[11:14] One of the big name stars was Dick Butkus, right?

[11:17] From, you know, the famous football coach.

[11:19] He could have been animated.

[11:21] He could have been.

[11:21] He could have.

[11:22] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[11:22] At any point.

[11:23] At any point.

Elliott Kalan

[11:24] He could have been like Sergeant Slaughter, both live action and animated, you know.

Dan McCoy

[11:27] I have to say, I mean, it's embarrassing.

[11:30] I went...

[11:32] I found myself...

[11:33] Don't be embarrassed.

[11:34] YouTube was feeding myself back to me.

[11:37] Like it was like suggesting...

[11:38] Like a human centipede with one person.

[11:40] Yeah.

[11:41] You were the original.

Stuart Wellington

[11:42] You were so to your own asshole?

[11:44] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[11:46] I mean, I certainly went up my own asshole.

[11:49] That's the Euroboros.

[11:50] Yeah.

[11:50] I was...

[11:51] I was...

[11:55] More like a Euroboros.

[11:58] Don't go there.

[12:00] I watched...

Elliott Kalan

[12:01] Is that why the snake is eating his own tail?

[12:03] Because a German scientist sewed his mouth to his ass?

Stuart Wellington

[12:06] I mean, that's how I describe the tattoo I have of that over my asshole.

[12:13] Oh, no.

[12:13] That would hurt.

Dan McCoy

[12:15] Yeah.

[12:16] I watched the...

[12:17] Worth it.

[12:19] I was watching some old flop TVs is what I'm saying.

[12:22] Like they appeared in my feed.

[12:23] I was watching some of them and I really enjoyed watching myself explaining Hot Chili to you.

[12:30] The third...

[12:31] Oh, boy.

[12:32] Yeah.

[12:33] ...meat themed TNA comedy that we didn't do.

[12:37] And I'm like, I discovered in the course of doing my presentation that it existed.

[12:40] It sounded worse than Handwrager.

[12:41] And I explained the whole thing to you.

[12:42] Yeah.

[12:44] It was a fun time.

[12:45] I enjoyed it.

Stuart Wellington

[12:45] Now, you mentioned presentations.

[12:47] PowerPoints are a big deal.

[12:49] A big part of flop TV.

[12:50] They're a big deal.

[12:50] Everyone's doing a big deal today.

[12:53] Now, why did you land on doing PowerPoints for live shows and for virtual shows?

[12:59] What do you like about PowerPoint so much, Dan?

Dan McCoy

[13:02] Well, we have been doing the Flophouse for a long time.

[13:07] I think it'll be 19 years in...

[13:12] Like a month.

[13:12] 19 years.

[13:13] Yeah.

[13:14] Very soon.

[13:14] Actually, in a couple of weeks, actually, I think, our birthday from recording.

[13:18] Look how much older we all are.

[13:20] Yeah.

[13:20] I know.

Elliott Kalan

[13:21] I'd rather not.

[13:22] Not me.

[13:22] 19 years older.

[13:23] How old?

[13:23] It's an annihilating.

[13:25] But...

[13:26] I kind of forgot the exact date since tomorrow is recorded.

[13:29] This is my son's birthday.

[13:30] And a week after that is my wife's birthday.

[13:32] But no, yeah.

[13:32] I should remember when the podcast's birthday is.

Stuart Wellington

[13:36] I mean, I have it on my calendar.

[13:38] That's true.

[13:38] I have it on my calendar.

[13:40] And my wife.

[13:40] Just for posterity.

Dan McCoy

[13:44] We got a real Jared Leno over here.

[13:48] Just for posterity, I have it on my calendar.

[13:50] It's like in mid-August.

[13:53] August sometime.

[13:55] So, this probably will have...

[13:57] Yeah, I haven't been calendar.

[13:57] 14th, I think.

[13:58] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[13:59] So, this will probably have aired after that.

Stuart Wellington

[14:01] Yeah, yeah.

[14:02] Or before.

[14:03] So, everybody update your calendars.

[14:05] The podcast is officially 19 years old, not 18.

[14:09] Okay.

[14:10] Anyway.

Elliott Kalan

[14:11] Take down the counter you had on your website until when the podcast is legal.

[14:15] You know.

Dan McCoy

[14:16] We, this was meant to be a setup to the answer that I was giving, which we got into the podcast

[14:22] game early.

[14:23] And we also got into the doing a live podcast show pretty early on.

[14:29] Mm-hmm.

[14:29] And when I, when we were putting together the show, I was always like, we got to do something

[14:36] to make it worth people coming out to seeing a live show to give them something that they

[14:42] can't get.

[14:43] Something cutting edge.

[14:44] Just listening to the show.

Hallie Haglund

[14:44] Something, some new technology.

Dan McCoy

[14:46] Yeah.

[14:46] Yeah, like PowerPoint.

[14:48] No, but something visual that is different than just like three guys sitting at a table

[14:52] talking.

[14:53] Now, of course.

[14:53] Which is most of the show.

[14:54] You can see.

[14:55] Live, live podcast shows that are just three guys sitting at a table talking, make money,

[15:01] people come to them.

[15:02] Not this one.

[15:03] But I was like, I was like, no one's going to be interested in this.

[15:06] So, that's why we started doing presentations.

Elliott Kalan

[15:08] And let's not forget that there was a period in the New York comedy scene, at least.

[15:11] I don't know if it was elsewhere, when PowerPoint presentations were suddenly very popular.

[15:16] Like, a lot of comedy people were doing, were doing comedy PowerPoint presentations.

[15:20] And it seemed like a really fun way to like add something.

[15:22] So, you weren't just doing standup, but you weren't just doing a monologue.

[15:25] And so, we glommed onto that.

Hallie Haglund

[15:27] I thought there would be a resurgence of salons.

[15:31] There wasn't.

[15:34] I will say, you know what I love about your PowerPoints, boys?

Stuart Wellington

[15:39] Please tell.

Hallie Haglund

[15:40] I just, I love the work you put into it, you know?

[15:47] I find it very obnoxious, especially when it's three men on a podcast.

[15:52] And you're like, oh, you just rolled in.

[15:54] You're just riffing.

Stuart Wellington

[15:56] Didn't even fix your hair.

[15:57] Yeah, didn't dress up.

[15:59] Yeah.

Hallie Haglund

[15:59] I appreciate.

[16:01] Oh, thank you.

[16:02] That you show your work.

Elliott Kalan

[16:03] If you're going to a podcast show and it's three men and they don't do a PowerPoint presentation,

[16:07] that's a deal breaker, ladies.

[16:09] Yep, red flag.

Hallie Haglund

[16:10] He's not going to do, if he's not going to do a PowerPoint for his podcast, he ain't doing one for you, ladies.

Stuart Wellington

[16:20] I feel like you've been like slow launching this social media persona where you give relationship advice.

Elliott Kalan

[16:28] Some of the stuff you do in bed you could call PowerPoint.

[16:31] Oh, God.

Stuart Wellington

[16:33] Not the way I'm doing it, ladies.

[16:39] Gentle pointing.

[16:40] I mean, there was that one.

[16:40] Gentle PowerPointing, yeah.

[16:42] Yeah, I mean, there was that one.

[16:43] I made that point in the right place.

[16:44] I did that one PowerPoint that was just pictures of my friend's cats.

[16:47] And I basically just was like, can you see that?

[16:50] And I could look over and see Dan getting increasingly more annoyed at how little work I put into my PowerPoint.

[16:58] He's like looking at his like reams of notes he had written.

[17:02] Careful stage directions for how he was supposed to.

[17:04] All his research.

Elliott Kalan

[17:05] All his lighting instructions for the different gels and spotlights he needed.

[17:08] I've watched all of Hot Chili.

Stuart Wellington

[17:13] So the second season of Flop TV was all sequels.

[17:17] There were six sequels selected.

[17:19] No squeak walls.

[17:20] No squeak walls.

[17:21] There was Robocop 2, Breaking 2, Caddyshack 2, Highlander 2, Ski School 2, and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2, The Secret of the Ooze.

[17:29] Is there a sequel you feel you missed?

[17:31] Is there a sequel movie that you think is worse than those six?

Dan McCoy

[17:36] Oh, man.

[17:37] This is like a good question that would actually require some thought.

[17:41] So I don't have an answer to it.

Stuart Wellington

[17:42] I wrote these questions and sent them all to your inboxes.

[17:45] Okay.

Elliott Kalan

[17:47] As we've already established, you sent them to the wrong inboxes.

Dan McCoy

[17:50] Oh, right, right, right.

[17:51] Let me do some quick.

[17:53] As was established by an earlier bit.

Hallie Haglund

[17:54] So the idea was that I had to.

[17:56] Oh, yeah, wait.

[17:57] That's the idea.

[17:57] Bad sequels.

Stuart Wellington

[17:58] Bad part two.

[18:04] Do you think there's a good sequel we should have talked about?

[18:07] Aliens, perhaps.

Elliott Kalan

[18:09] I mean, we were.

[18:10] Well, I wish we could have talked about like Rocky IV.

[18:12] What about Godfather 2?

[18:13] Which is such a fun movie to talk about.

[18:15] That's the thing.

Dan McCoy

[18:16] Godfather 2 is apparently the worst one.

[18:18] Okay, interesting.

[18:20] We were keeping ourselves to number twos, like direct sequels.

[18:25] Yeah.

[18:26] You know what?

Elliott Kalan

[18:27] You know what?

[18:28] Yeah, we, we, we, we, we, all, usually we pee on camera, but for that one, we pooped on camera.

[18:31] I will say, we could have done Speed 2.

[18:33] That's hilarious.

[18:34] We'd already, we'd already done a live show about that.

[18:35] Yeah, can you do that?

Stuart Wellington

[18:36] I, I can't.

[18:37] I couldn't poop on camera.

[18:38] I'd get so much stage fright.

[18:39] I'd have to, I'd have to, I'd have to, I'd have to really save it up for a long time.

[18:42] So you'd have to do it.

Hallie Haglund

[18:44] Two girls.

Stuart Wellington

[18:46] You're not going to name them.

[18:47] I'm not going to name names.

Hallie Haglund

[18:49] There were no names.

[18:50] That's on our resume.

[18:51] And those two girls, and they did it.

Stuart Wellington

[18:54] Yeah, I mean, at that point, it got popular enough.

[18:56] You, I mean, you'd want to put that on your LinkedIn, right?

[19:00] You'd want to.

Elliott Kalan

[19:01] You'd want to.

[19:02] But the thing is, anyone could put it on their LinkedIn.

[19:04] How do you prove it?

[19:04] That's the thing.

Dan McCoy

[19:05] Sure.

[19:06] Anyway.

Elliott Kalan

[19:07] I was, so, I, we could have done.

Dan McCoy

[19:09] First sequels.

[19:10] If we hadn't been doing that, we could have done, like, Star Trek 5.

[19:13] First sequels.

[19:14] Sorry, you were saying Speed 2, Elliot.

[19:16] Speed 2.

[19:17] But we did it for a live.

Elliott Kalan

[19:17] We've already done a live show of Speed 2.

[19:18] But I, also, Son of the Mask is one that we didn't do.

[19:21] Oh, that.

[19:21] I think because it didn't have a 2 in the title.

[19:23] But that could have been one that we did, also.

[19:25] What about Five Will Goes West?

[19:26] Dumb and Dumberer.

[19:27] Dumb and Dumberer.

[19:28] Five Will Goes West.

[19:30] I mean, Five Will Goes West.

[19:30] I saw Five Will Goes West again a few years ago.

[19:32] And I'm like, this is a zanier movie than I remember it being from when I was a kid.

Stuart Wellington

[19:36] It also doesn't have a 2 in it.

[19:38] No, it has a 5 in it.

[19:39] If you're going to sneak a 2.

[19:43] If you're going to sneak a 2 into the, I mean, Son of the Mask, it's easy.

[19:46] You swap that, the S.

[19:48] Tune of the Mask.

[19:49] Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[19:50] Or the, I was going to say the S in Mask.

[19:52] Son of the Matuk.

[19:55] All right.

[19:59] But where would you sneak it into Five Will Goes West?

[20:02] Five Will Goes West?

[20:04] No, the S in West.

[20:05] Five Will.

Hallie Haglund

[20:06] I got it, I got it.

[20:07] Okay.

[20:08] Five Will.

[20:09] Five Will Goes West.

Stuart Wellington

[20:11] Oh, yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[20:13] Because it's one of the Southwest.

[20:14] Oh, yeah.

[20:14] It's so exotic.

[20:15] It's Spanish there.

[20:16] Yeah, yeah.

[20:16] Makes sense.

[20:17] It was Mexican land originally, you know.

[20:19] Yeah.

[20:19] I mean, originally it was, it was not Mexico.

[20:22] It was, anyway, never mind.

[20:23] Is it weird?

Dan McCoy

[20:23] I mean, originally it was dinosaurs, right?

[20:26] It's fine.

[20:26] It's all right.

[20:27] Everything used to be dinos.

[20:28] It's all dinosaurs, right?

[20:29] But even dinosaurs.

[20:30] There were other things before dinos.

[20:31] They still are in my house.

Elliott Kalan

[20:33] I mean, just to give you a serious answer, the continents were placed in a different way

[20:38] and a lot of our current land was underwater.

[20:40] So, it doesn't quite map exactly right.

Stuart Wellington

[20:42] Do you ever feel like with a little-

[20:43] I'm always talking about Pangea, this guy.

[20:46] Orgons on a land.

[20:47] Parents of little kids, do you guys just have a bunch of like dinosaur facts that you can

[20:51] rattle off or do you like have like dinosaur prompts?

[20:53] Yeah, as parents of little kids, that's why Elliot has a lot of dino facts.

[20:56] Thank you, Dan.

Elliott Kalan

[20:56] That was exactly the point I was going to make.

[20:58] My children have very little interest in dinosaurs, which terrifies me.

[21:02] I don't like it.

[21:03] What's happening to the younger generation?

Hallie Haglund

[21:04] Mine has a lot of interest in dinosaurs.

[21:06] Dinosaurs, bugs, you know, sea creatures.

[21:10] Do you prefer-

Elliott Kalan

[21:11] And you're very athletic and my son is very athletic and I'm not.

[21:14] We should swap children.

[21:15] Okay.

[21:15] Yeah.

Hallie Haglund

[21:16] My children are also really into-

[21:19] Well, we've had to limit it, but this is funny, I promise.

[21:22] They've started to watch-

Stuart Wellington

[21:23] Unlike the rest of the show, which is hilarious.

Hallie Haglund

[21:26] They started watching these YouTube bug videos and then somehow we weren't paying close enough

[21:32] attention and it just started cycling into these videos of like this guy who like buys all

[21:37] these weird animals on the dark web.

[21:39] And now, now my four-year-old keeps coming up to me crying of like, please, can we go on

[21:45] the dark web?

Stuart Wellington

[21:50] Oh no.

[21:53] Yeah.

Hallie Haglund

[21:53] It's all just beautiful insects on the dark web.

[21:56] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[21:58] I would love it if that was the kind of stuff my kids were watching on YouTube.

[22:01] Instead, it's all either Minecraft videos or my son goes to a friend's house and they watch

[22:06] the amazing digital circus.

[22:08] Now-

[22:09] I'm like, I don't want him watching that.

[22:10] When we last visited-

[22:10] They use bad language on that.

Hallie Haglund

[22:12] Oh, is that the, is that the like poppy's playtime thing?

[22:16] Similar.

[22:16] Because, because I actually is into that, but I won't let him watch it.

Dan McCoy

[22:20] Ellie, when we last visited, Gabriel was watching cute animal videos with Audrey.

[22:26] And then like when Audrey left, he like hugged her leg and was like, remember the cute animal

[22:30] videos or something like that.

[22:31] He like wanted to make sure that she would watch them by herself at home as well.

[22:35] Has she been doing it?

Elliott Kalan

[22:36] I mean, he does still watch cute animal videos.

[22:38] Right now, I mean, the big news in our house is that they just had a baby taper born at the

[22:43] Fresno Zoo.

[22:44] And so he's following this, this baby tapir on Instagram and the, we will eventually be

[22:48] taking a road trip to Fresno to see this baby tapir when it is on display at the zoo.

Hallie Haglund

[22:53] You guys just wanted to talk about our kids the whole time, right?

Elliott Kalan

[22:56] Yeah, yeah.

[22:56] Yeah.

[22:56] And that, I mean-

[22:57] So, adults who don't have children, they love to hear about other adults' children.

Hallie Haglund

[23:02] You guys want to know, yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[23:04] And also, I feel like this experience is going to take a look at the show.

[23:08] I feel like I'm going to teach your son a lot about parasocial relationships when he's

[23:11] been following this tapir and then he meets him and-

[23:14] And it is awkward.

[23:14] Tapir doesn't give a shit.

[23:17] Yeah.

[23:17] He knows all about the taper.

[23:19] Now, what else is there?

Elliott Kalan

[23:19] I watch you all the time.

[23:21] Yeah, yeah.

[23:21] Great kid.

[23:22] Great kid.

[23:22] Anyway, can you-

[23:23] Gabriel, who?

Elliott Kalan

[23:24] I'm trying to use my weird trunk to pick up some leaves.

[23:26] Anyway.

Stuart Wellington

[23:28] Is that a functional appendage or is it just-

[23:31] Very much so.

Elliott Kalan

[23:32] It is a functional prehensile nose.

[23:34] While it does not have the strength or length of an elephant trunk,

[23:38] it can be used to pick up some things or bring things closer to the mouth.

[23:42] Can it smell?

[23:43] And it can smell, yes.

[23:45] It smells terrible.

[23:46] I was just talking to-

[23:47] Gabriel and I had been to the LA Zoo just a couple weekends ago.

[23:49] We saw the orangutan baby who's there.

[23:51] It was adorable.

[23:53] And we were talking about how strange it would be if your nose was also your main hand,

[23:58] as it is for tapirs and elephants.

Dan McCoy

[24:00] Unlike with us where it's like the third or fourth most important hand we have.

Elliott Kalan

[24:04] Yeah.

[24:05] I mean, you can't pick up that much one olive at a time.

[24:07] A lot of cocaine.

[24:08] Yeah.

[24:08] You can pick up a lot of cocaine.

[24:09] Your hands-

[24:10] It's actually a better hand for picking up cocaine than your actual hands, you know.

Stuart Wellington

[24:13] Yeah.

[24:13] That just falls through your fingers.

[24:14] Yeah.

[24:15] Yeah.

[24:16] Then you just look like that raccoon who accidentally put its cotton candy in a puddle.

[24:20] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[24:21] So this has been really lovely, guys.

Stuart Wellington

[24:23] We're going to take a quick break.

[24:24] Will you stay with me when we return from this message from our sponsors?

[24:28] I guess so.

[24:29] Okay.

S5

[24:35] Say, what's the trivia show where dreams come true?

Hallie Haglund

[24:38] It's got to be Go Fact Yourself.

[24:41] Legend in the house.

S5

[24:43] We quiz celebrity contestants about topics they love.

Stuart Wellington

[24:46] Then bring out surprise experts.

S5

[24:48] To delight and amaze.

[24:50] And then finally, tell us why you know and love the lyrics to the song, Knockin' Boots,

[24:53] by Candyman.

Elliott Kalan

[24:54] Joining us tonight is a rapper and producer.

Hallie Haglund

[24:57] It's Candyman!

[24:59] Go Candyman!

S5

[25:01] This is among the greatest moments of my life.

[25:05] This is one of mine, too.

[25:06] I love it.

Elliott Kalan

[25:07] That's Go Fact Yourself.

S5

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[26:29] Do I get tired?

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Dan McCoy

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[31:22] Fluff House listeners.

[31:22] I know you like listening to us, but how about seeing us, smelling us in real time, having us in the room with you?

[31:31] Well, you can make that happen September 18th.

[31:34] That's a Friday night, 8 p.m.

[31:36] We are going to be in Louisville, Kentucky.

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[31:57] So that's us live at the Whirling Tiger in Louisville, Kentucky, September 18th.

[32:02] Go to flophousepodcast.com slash events for more information and how to get tickets.

Dan McCoy

[32:08] I think you should go.

[32:08] It's going to be really fun.

[32:09] It's going to be a really good show.

Elliott Kalan

[32:11] But let's say you can't make it to Louisville, Kentucky, and let's say you still want to see our beautiful faces while we are telling jokes and talking about movies.

[32:18] Guess what?

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[32:51] And now, back to talking about Flop TV.

Stuart Wellington

[32:54] And welcome back to the Peach Bit, the number one post-Flophouse review show hosted by me, Stuart Wellington, one of the hosts of the Flophouse.

[33:03] And I am joined again by three megastars.

[33:07] Elliot Kalin, Hallie Hagelin, and one Dirty Dan McCoy.

[33:10] Thanks so much for joining me, guys.

[33:13] So, Elliot, you were saying during the break that you have another animal fact?

Elliott Kalan

[33:16] No, not a fact.

[33:17] I would say my younger son has also been caught up in Jimothy fever.

[33:20] Oh, who hasn't been?

[33:22] Yeah.

[33:22] So, that's also been a big parasocial relationship in this house.

[33:27] Has been with Jimothy, the slightly deformed but in a cute way raccoon.

Stuart Wellington

[33:31] I got to say, over under on how many people are going to dress as Jimothy for Halloween.

[33:36] Oh, my God.

[33:36] It's going to be big.

[33:37] It's going to be big.

[33:38] It's going to be crazy.

[33:39] And Jimothy is going to see all that money.

[33:41] It's going to be like the Joker.

Hallie Haglund

[33:42] Like, what would you do with your costume other than just have a regular raccoon costume to distinguish between Jim?

Stuart Wellington

[33:49] A big round raccoon costume.

[33:51] Well, first, somebody has to come over and smush you.

Elliott Kalan

[33:54] Yeah, yeah.

[33:55] And pull your legs.

Stuart Wellington

[33:56] They're a little longer than usual.

[33:57] Yeah, yeah.

[33:58] Yep.

[33:58] Smash you with a hammer and then pull your legs out real long.

[34:01] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[34:02] Luckily, we live in a cartoon universe where you can do that.

Stuart Wellington

[34:05] So we've been talking about Flop TV and we're talking about performing live.

[34:08] Do you guys have any particular rituals that you like to do before you perform?

[34:16] Pre-show or post-show rituals?

[34:18] Guys, keep it PG.

[34:19] Thank you.

Dan McCoy

[34:20] Oh, so we can't talk about the pooping that's too hard.

Stuart Wellington

[34:23] Pooping is totally PG.

[34:25] Yeah.

[34:25] Your parents should guide you with pooping.

[34:28] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[34:28] I mean, PG stands for poop, guys.

Dan McCoy

[34:31] Yeah.

[34:32] I think that my pre-show ritual usually is to like really withdraw within myself because

[34:38] I can feel my body being like, you have to conserve what little energy you have to be on stage.

[34:47] So get even quieter and more withdrawn than normal until like two minutes beforehand and then get real pumped.

[34:54] Did this happen when you would?

Elliott Kalan

[34:56] That's when the coke goes right up the hands.

Stuart Wellington

[34:58] So there were a couple moments where you were on camera for bits on The Daily Show.

[35:03] Did you do the same thing for that?

Dan McCoy

[35:07] No, that was just a lot of nerves, a lot of nerve backstage, a lot of like, am I going to look awkward?

[35:15] Am I going to be able to read teleprompter adequately?

[35:20] No, honestly, like I look at the things when I'm on The Daily Show and I'm amazed that I look relatively comfortable when I am on, which was very rare.

Elliott Kalan

[35:30] I think part of the fun of that was that it was a place you worked, you were around people you knew.

[35:34] And I know that the times that I was on The Daily Show, it almost didn't feel like you were really, even though there's an audience there, it didn't feel like you were on a real TV show to me.

[35:42] It was just like, oh, we're goofing around, you know.

Stuart Wellington

[35:44] Like you're making a little performance just for your parents to watch.

[35:47] Exactly.

Elliott Kalan

[35:47] My parents' friends were over and they go, Elliot, come and do that thing you do.

[35:51] Do put on your little show.

[35:52] Do that thing where you reenact all of that thing you do.

Stuart Wellington

[36:02] All right.

[36:03] Opening credits.

Elliott Kalan

[36:05] Directed by Tom Hanks.

[36:08] Oh, he did direct that one, right?

[36:10] He did direct it.

[36:11] How do you think?

[36:12] Never mind.

[36:12] Are you going to say, how do you think it got made?

Hallie Haglund

[36:14] No, I was going to say, how do you think Colin Hanks got cast?

[36:17] No, he auditioned under a fake name.

Dan McCoy

[36:20] And a fake face.

[36:21] He was great.

[36:22] He had a big mustache.

[36:24] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[36:24] And they said, kids, shave that mustache and you're perfect.

[36:27] And Tom Hanks was like, he reminds me of a younger me.

Stuart Wellington

[36:31] But like mixed with my wife too a little bit.

Elliott Kalan

[36:35] It was somehow like, it was like Tom Hanks with a little bit of Rita Wilson added in.

Hallie Haglund

[36:41] Wait, is Rita Wilson his mom?

Elliott Kalan

[36:44] I thought so.

[36:45] Or is he from her, is Colin Hanks from his previous marriage?

[36:47] I don't remember.

Hallie Haglund

[36:48] There's another daughter from a previous marriage, but I'm not sure.

Elliott Kalan

[36:52] What about Chet?

[36:53] What about Chet?

[36:54] Yeah, where's Chet?

[36:54] Chet Hayes.

[36:55] He must be from the Rita Wilson marriage because he's a guy.

[36:58] I'm looking it up.

[36:59] They've been married for a long time.

[37:00] Anyway, my pre-show ritual is that I quickly eat something and then tell my children to be quiet.

[37:05] And then I rush to the room and sit down just in time for the show to start.

Stuart Wellington

[37:08] How is that different from doing a normal live show?

Elliott Kalan

[37:12] My children are not usually there.

[37:14] Although I think you call them, right?

[37:16] I do call them sometimes beforehand.

[37:18] You FaceTime with them and you're like this.

[37:19] His mom is not Rita Wilson.

[37:21] Oh, wow.

[37:23] Is that, are you going to give us any more information about that?

Stuart Wellington

[37:26] Nothing more is known.

[37:28] It just says mother, unknown.

[37:29] It's like the David Arquette thing all over again, which you'll understand next week when that episode airs.

Dan McCoy

[37:35] It's like in Mandalorian Groku.

[37:37] There's a card with a question mark on it.

Hallie Haglund

[37:40] You want me to check out Chet?

[37:42] See who his mom is?

Dan McCoy

[37:44] Yeah, check him out.

[37:45] Check out that Chet.

[37:46] Who's Chet's mom?

[37:47] Give us a rating on Chet.

Elliott Kalan

[37:48] I think so, but right before, one of the most fun moments when we're doing a live show in person.

[37:54] Rita Wilson.

Stuart Wellington

[37:55] Oh, nailed it, everybody.

[37:58] We did it.

[37:59] Oh, man, what's our trivia team name?

Elliott Kalan

[38:06] So the, I think our team name has to be Hanks for the memories, right?

[38:14] So when we're doing a live show in person, one of the most fun things is before we go on stage,

[38:19] and we're not exactly pumping each other up, but we're just kind of like being around each other,

[38:23] you know, feeling about like we're going to go on.

[38:25] We don't have that for Flop TV because we're in a separate place.

[38:27] We have our tech check earlier in the afternoon, but it's not quite the same thing.

[38:31] It's a much more lonely experience.

[38:33] Yes, it is.

[38:34] Yeah, yeah.

[38:34] You feel like you're in a little bubble.

Stuart Wellington

[38:36] Do you guys remember that time we were doing a show at UCB?

[38:39] It wasn't, we were like guests on someone's show, and Jubin was there, and he showed up,

[38:44] and he was like, so are we doing scenes?

[38:47] Or like, are we doing characters?

[38:49] And I'm like, this is, no, no, we're just sitting around answering questions.

[38:53] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[38:54] It was really fun.

[38:55] That might have been the first time I ever saw the backstage green room area at UCB,

[38:59] and realized what a dump it was.

[39:01] And this place that I had kind of like, been always like, someday I'll perform here.

[39:04] Because I would go there, you know, starting in college, I went to UCB shows all the time,

[39:09] and I'm like, oh man, these people are so funny.

[39:11] This is such an amazing theater.

[39:13] Someday maybe I'll get to be part of it.

[39:14] And then we were backstage, and I'm like, this place is a dump.

Dan McCoy

[39:16] Are you thinking of Andy Beckerman's show when Hallie was also there?

[39:20] No, because that was at a different place.

Elliott Kalan

[39:24] That was at the other location.

[39:26] It was the other location.

[39:28] Yeah, yeah, but that wasn't like the real UCB location.

[39:30] That was their like little theater.

[39:32] I don't remember all the time.

Stuart Wellington

[39:35] The Beast.

[39:37] Did you feel that experience when you, like, since you've all worked in comedy,

[39:43] did that illusion drop in a lot of places?

[39:46] Like when you guys started working at The Daily Show,

[39:48] were you guys like, any glamour of it was immediately shattered?

Dan McCoy

[39:54] I think always, Elliot, of something that you said,

[39:58] so I'm going to say it.

[39:58] Always, Elliot, my fragrance.

[40:01] I'm going to take words that you had, and I'm going to put them in my own mouth.

[40:04] Oh, man.

[40:05] About how, like, the first time you were at the Emmys,

[40:07] it was like, it felt very unreal.

[40:09] Like, it took the glamour away, because it's like,

[40:11] oh, this thing isn't a thing now because I'm inside it,

[40:16] or something like that.

[40:16] Well, that's how I felt.

Elliott Kalan

[40:17] I really felt that way when the first time Jon Stewart hosted the Academy Awards,

[40:22] and there was a montage that I had co-produced,

[40:25] the famous gay cowboy montage,

[40:27] where it was scenes from,

[40:27] that was the year of Brokeback Mountains.

[40:29] It was scenes from classic westerns

[40:31] where there's this homoerotic charge to them.

[40:33] And watching that on TV, I was like, oh.

[40:36] Was that narrated by Ian McShane?

[40:39] No, that was the thing.

[40:40] That was the convention movie we did when John McCain was running for president in 2008.

[40:47] That was Ian McShane who narrated that.

[40:48] He was amazing.

[40:49] He was fantastic.

[40:50] But seeing this thing that I had worked on air during the Oscars,

[40:54] it suddenly brought the Oscars down a bunch of levels.

[40:57] Rather than making me feel like, oh, man, I'm elevated now.

[41:00] I'm part of this thing.

[41:01] That was where it was like, oh, okay, well, this is like the fake Oscars.

[41:04] Because like I'm – the same way that if I was –

[41:06] I would – when I was – if I was coming home from work or from somewhere else

[41:10] and I would walk past someone's apartment

[41:12] and I would see that they had a TV on playing The Daily Show,

[41:14] I'd be like, oh, they get the channel with The Daily Show on it

[41:16] that people who work at The Daily Show get?

[41:18] Like it really felt like we make this show

[41:20] and then it just gets beamed to the houses of the people who made it.

[41:23] And it becomes hard for me to recognize

[41:25] that it's actually a thing that other people watch or enjoy or anything like that.

[41:30] So I think it was less like – when I worked at The Daily Show,

[41:33] it was less like, oh, this is it?

[41:35] Oh.

[41:36] And more like, okay, well, now that I'm involved in it,

[41:38] it's not – it can't be as cool as I thought it was.

[41:41] It was easy to forget.

Dan McCoy

[41:42] It was something to talk to a therapist about.

[41:43] Exactly, yes.

[41:44] I also had this where it was easy to forget

[41:46] that like other people watched the show suddenly.

[41:48] Like even though it was a show that I had watched

[41:50] for years and years and years.

[41:52] Then it was like, oh, it's just this project that we're all doing together.

[41:55] And then we throw it in the trash.

[41:57] Yeah.

Hallie Haglund

[41:58] Which is funny because I think conversely –

[42:02] and this is not a criticism –

[42:04] but I do feel like when I worked at The Daily Show

[42:07] and for people who continue to work at The Daily Show,

[42:13] you often talk like everybody knows what the fuck is going on at The Daily Show.

[42:18] Like everyone –

Elliott Kalan

[42:19] It becomes – you assume that this is what –

[42:20] because this is such a big part of your life.

[42:22] Yeah.

[42:22] Everyone is doing this.

[42:24] Yeah.

Hallie Haglund

[42:24] Whereas most people are like, yeah, I don't actually watch that.

[42:28] Yes, I don't watch that.

Stuart Wellington

[42:29] Oh, yeah, I see it sometimes.

[42:30] Yeah.

[42:30] And like when you were working there,

[42:32] did you feel like you had a different level of engagement with like the news,

[42:37] media, and all of a sudden you're like,

[42:39] why isn't everyone talking about this thing that we joked around about at the office?

[42:43] Yeah, very much so.

[42:43] You assumed everybody's life was based around yucking about the stuff you're seeing.

Elliott Kalan

[42:48] I mean it reminded me –

[42:50] I had a moment where I was walking through Times Square once

[42:52] and I passed by the political pundit SE Cup.

[42:55] And I was like suddenly starstruck for a moment and I had to remind myself,

[42:58] wait a minute, nobody knows who this person is.

[43:00] Like nobody watches as much news – cable news as we do at the show.

[43:04] And the fact that I don't know most of the hosts of the cable news shows anymore

[43:09] because I don't watch them, I'm like, oh, this is a –

[43:12] like most people are not aware of all the ins and outs of the Fox News hosts

[43:16] and what their personalities are.

Stuart Wellington

[43:17] And their relationships with each other.

[43:20] Yeah.

[43:20] When I walked past a New York One anchor on the street and I was like,

[43:25] oh, is no one looking at Frank DeLillo from New York One?

Hallie Haglund

[43:29] Not Chuckie Beckford?

[43:31] No.

[43:31] I love Chuckie Beckford.

Stuart Wellington

[43:34] I wish it was George Whipple, honestly, so I could grab his eyebrows.

[43:39] Yeah.

[43:39] Fly around.

Elliott Kalan

[43:40] It was the opposite experience of when a different time I was running through Times Square

[43:43] and Michael Cera was standing on a street corner looking at his phone

[43:45] and I was about to go say hi to him and then had to remember, wait a minute, I don't know him.

[43:49] He's someone I've seen on television.

[43:51] He's not a friend of mine.

Hallie Haglund

[43:52] You know, ironically, I was at a party one time and I watched the Two Girls One Cup video with Michael Cera.

Stuart Wellington

[43:59] Wow.

[43:59] I mean, I guess that's ironic.

Hallie Haglund

[44:01] I mean, well, I guess because we were talking about Two Girls One Cup before.

Dan McCoy

[44:05] Yeah.

[44:05] So it's more of a coincidence than I agree.

[44:07] This is a real thing that happened, Hallie.

[44:09] Yes.

[44:10] Now, why did this happen?

Elliott Kalan

[44:12] We were at the release party for Two Girls One Cup.

[44:14] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[44:15] Which Michael Cera had produced, of course.

[44:17] Do not open the swag bag.

[44:19] No.

[44:20] Keep it closed.

Hallie Haglund

[44:23] It was just some party.

[44:24] I'd never met him before.

[44:25] I never met him since.

[44:26] And I remember he got really sad about it.

[44:29] Oh.

[44:29] Okay.

Stuart Wellington

[44:29] I mean, that's a correct human reaction to have.

[44:31] That's better than if he was like weirdly into it.

[44:34] Yeah.

[44:34] And he's like, we should do that.

[44:38] That's what we all say when we watch Two Girls One Cup.

[44:40] I've actually never seen it.

[44:41] I know I would not.

[44:43] Actually, Alex and Michael Cera about it.

[44:44] Alex, can you play the clip real quick?

[44:46] No.

[44:46] No, no.

Elliott Kalan

[44:49] That video was one of those things where like at The Daily Show, gross videos would kind

[44:54] of like be circulated mostly in the studio production department, but sometimes among the writers

[44:58] or other people or the field department.

[44:59] And then that was one where it was almost like the video escaped containment.

[45:02] And I'm like, why are people outside of this building talking about this disgusting video?

[45:06] Like, why did this become famous?

[45:07] You know?

Hallie Haglund

[45:08] Remember when we wrote the piece for Chat Roulette?

[45:13] For Katie Couric.

Elliott Kalan

[45:14] That was really fun.

[45:15] She did a good job of that.

[45:16] She's like, oh, John.

[45:18] Thank you.

[45:19] What was it?

Hallie Haglund

[45:20] She's like, there's a place where scum dwells or something.

Elliott Kalan

[45:22] There's a place where the sickest people on the internet dwells to act out there.

[45:26] Something fantasy is, this is your part, John.

[45:28] She's like, I found one of these perverts.

[45:30] I'm done right now.

[45:32] John, now it's your part.

[45:34] She was really fun.

[45:35] The thing I remember most about the Chat Roulette bit was in rehearsal, how it was so much footage

[45:40] of like people just whipping their dicks out and the crew loved it.

[45:44] They thought it was so funny.

[45:45] And then we put in, it was a moment of sex between two men and the crew starts going, oh,

Stuart Wellington

[45:50] oh, no, no, oh.

Elliott Kalan

[45:52] That was too much for them.

[45:54] They thought they were loving it until that moment.

[45:55] And then they were all, it was just too much.

[45:57] I thought that was so funny.

Stuart Wellington

[45:57] It's all fun and games until people seem to be.

[46:00] Until someone finds love.

[46:00] Yeah.

[46:01] Until, yeah.

[46:02] Makes an actual connection.

[46:04] Exactly, yeah.

[46:04] It's kind of sad.

Elliott Kalan

[46:05] A rainbow connection.

[46:06] Because the Muppets were there.

Stuart Wellington

[46:07] Yeah, so that brings us to, wait, what?

[46:10] That brings us to season three of the Flop TV.

[46:13] That's what this episode is about.

[46:15] Flop TV.

[46:15] Flop TV theater.

[46:16] Is this dick felt?

[46:17] That's where we went back in time.

[46:19] Because the Muppets.

[46:19] Decade by decade, trying out some of the worst flops from the history of cinema, starting with Pluto Nash.

[46:28] Then we watched Jack Frost, not the horror movie.

[46:31] No, no.

[46:31] The Michael Keaton dad comes back as a snowman movie.

[46:34] Xanadu.

[46:35] Zardoz.

[46:36] Great movie.

[46:37] Dr. Doolittle.

[46:38] And Plan 9 from Outer Space.

[46:40] Now, looking back over those movies, were there any that you think should have deserved more of a reimagining, should be considered, or a cultural re-evaluation?

Elliott Kalan

[46:52] I mean, I'll stand by, during our Zardoz episode I talked about, that's a movie I think has a lot of great stuff in it.

[46:58] I think it is an imperfect movie, but I think it genuinely has some very beautiful and hard-hitting moments in it.

[47:04] And Xanadu is-

[47:05] I like the music.

[47:06] Yeah, the music is good.

[47:07] And Xanadu is so fun.

[47:08] Like, it's such a fun, dumb movie.

[47:11] When you watch it, you see why that's one that people have a lot of feelings for.

[47:15] Dr. Doolittle, on the other hand, is the longest of the movies we watched, and I remember it the least of all of them.

[47:20] Like, it just kind of passed through me like crap through a goose, you know?

Dan McCoy

[47:23] No, those are the two, Xanadu and Zardoz.

[47:26] Very much on, like, different ends of the spectrum in terms of, like, lightness and just silly fun.

Stuart Wellington

[47:33] I do like Elliot picking up a new folksy phrase, like, crap through a goose.

[47:39] Yeah, yeah.

[47:40] I think, yeah, that's-

[47:41] I'm trying out new things.

[47:42] Now that I'm getting older, I've got to talk like an old man.

Dan McCoy

[47:43] By the way, you're talking about Dr. Doolittle being old.

[47:46] Oh, boy.

[47:47] Did we make a mistake with this Best Pictures theme?

[47:51] Because I was looking at the runtimes of all of these.

[47:52] Like, I think all of them are over two hours long.

[47:54] Oh, no.

[47:55] Many of them are pushing three hours, so.

Stuart Wellington

[47:57] Oh, no.

[47:58] So, yeah, that mentions that the final season, final-

[48:02] Final?

[48:02] Whoa.

[48:03] Wow.

[48:04] You mean, Stuart?

[48:05] Stuart, what did you say?

[48:07] A scoop for this recording, man.

[48:10] The fourth, the upcoming fourth season of Flop TV.

[48:14] Tickets on sale now.

Elliott Kalan

[48:15] I forgot that after this season, we agreed to all get into a space pod and journey to the

[48:20] farthest reaches of the universe.

Dan McCoy

[48:21] I guess I've been thrown in the trash like The Daily Show was after we made it.

Stuart Wellington

[48:25] And for this final, uh, final.

[48:28] Wow.

[48:29] Again.

[48:30] Oh, again.

[48:31] Freudian.

[48:32] This is very Freudian, yeah.

[48:35] So, for the fourth season, titled Worst of the Best, we are looking at all Best Picture

[48:42] winners.

[48:43] Yeah.

[48:43] Starting with Green Book, Greatest Show on Earth, Gladiator, Crash, Around the World in

[48:51] 80 Days Crash, by the way, the racism one, not the sex one.

Elliott Kalan

[48:54] The one that won Best Picture.

Stuart Wellington

[48:55] Yes.

[48:56] Yeah.

[48:56] Wait, the-

[48:56] The bad one, not the good one.

[48:58] The other one?

[48:58] Yeah.

[48:59] And then finally-

Elliott Kalan

[48:59] No, the Crone and Burn Crash did not win Best Picture.

Stuart Wellington

[49:01] Then finally, a movie that may or may not actually exist out of Africa.

Elliott Kalan

[49:06] With this, we are finally going to answer the mystery that has bedeviled this podcast for

[49:10] I don't know how long.

[49:11] Does Out of Africa actually exist?

Stuart Wellington

[49:13] I've only seen one of these six movies, and that's the one that I pushed for, which is

[49:18] Gladiator.

[49:18] Yeah.

[49:19] You really wanted Gladiator to be on there.

[49:20] Yeah.

[49:20] Which, by the way, Stuart, we've already-

Dan McCoy

[49:22] Well, you pushed for that.

[49:23] We've already fielded so many people being like, what's Gladiator doing on this list?

[49:26] People are losing their fucking shit.

Elliott Kalan

[49:28] I mean, we needed another one that started with G after Green Book and Greatest Show on

[49:32] Earth, for sure, right?

[49:33] I mean, I-

[49:34] Stuart was very intent that Gladiator be on the list, yeah.

Dan McCoy

[49:37] I'm going to publicly say right now, I think that Gladiator will probably be the one that

[49:42] generally will be like, yeah, this is fine.

[49:45] We're not going to be down on-

Stuart Wellington

[49:47] Is it the best picture?

[49:48] No.

[49:49] Probably not.

[49:49] And what I'm also going to say is, I'm probably going to watch it and be like, not only do

[49:53] I think this movie's bad, but anyone who likes it and would argue with me on the internet

[49:57] is worse.

[49:58] Wow.

[49:59] Stuart's really staking out an opposite claim that I was expecting.

[50:03] But I haven't seen Green Book, Greatest Show on Earth, how long is that one?

[50:07] Like 10 million years?

[50:08] That's about three hours long, almost, yeah.

[50:08] Christ.

[50:10] And I say this because-

[50:12] It's about a circus, so how boring can it be?

[50:13] I think this is a theme that I also pushed for.

[50:17] I think I pushed for this theme, which makes me look dumber by the moment.

[50:22] Around the World in 80 Days, does it take 80 days to watch it?

[50:25] It's also very long.

Elliott Kalan

[50:26] I mean, Greatest Show on Earth and Around the World in 80 Days are both movies from an era

[50:30] when you would do these big roadshow spectaculars.

[50:34] The idea was make the movie as long as possible because you're going to have a special screening

[50:38] of it that's better or more special than a normal movie.

[50:41] I have a feeling I might-

Hallie Haglund

[50:42] Wait, is the Greatest Show on Earth the Zac Efron one?

Elliott Kalan

[50:45] No, that's The Greatest Showman with Hugh Jackman and Zac Efron.

[50:48] This is The Greatest Show on Earth with, it's what, Charlton Heston and Jimmy Stewart and

[50:52] it's about-

[50:53] Jimmy Stewart's a clown in it.

[50:54] He's a clown in it.

[50:55] I'm looking forward to seeing that.

[50:56] The Greatest Show on Earth, I know more from the Mad Magazine parody of it, which was in

[51:00] a paperback of Mad parodies that I had when I was a kid.

[51:03] I know that more than the actual-

[51:04] But this is, The Greatest Show on Earth is the movie that inspired Steven Spielberg

[51:07] to become a filmmaker as a child, which is what, in the Fablemans, that's the movie

[51:12] he sees where he's like, oh, I gotta become a filmmaker now.

[51:14] I can do way better than this.

[51:18] But he's never made a circus movie, has he?

Stuart Wellington

[51:21] No.

[51:21] He can't be tombed, I guess.

[51:23] He's made a lot of train stuff.

Elliott Kalan

[51:25] I guess Steven was the original director on Big Top Peewee until he and Paul Rubens had

[51:29] their creative differences.

Dan McCoy

[51:30] You know, maybe this season will shut my mouth, but I anticipate maybe kind of liking

[51:39] Greatest Show and Around the World in 80 Days just because it is an old-fashioned type of

[51:44] like, it's gonna bore me, I'm sure, but I'm also gonna enjoy like, oh, star-studded, like

[51:50] everyone's gonna be like an old Hollywood, you know, face.

Stuart Wellington

[51:54] And my only experience with Green Book was my wife watched it on a plane and it was...

Hallie Haglund

[52:00] I feel like there's a little earthquake just now.

[52:02] That was just me laughing and I shook the table.

[52:03] Oh, okay.

Stuart Wellington

[52:05] Wow.

[52:06] Hey, that's a good credit to Dan's joke is that he made a lot of laugh so hard he created

[52:10] a mini earthquake.

Elliott Kalan

[52:11] I actually laughed at the joke that I was thinking of when Dan said.

[52:14] Oh, let's hear it.

[52:15] No, it's not.

[52:16] It doesn't work anymore.

[52:17] It doesn't work anymore.

[52:17] It was too good.

Stuart Wellington

[52:18] But yeah, so Charlene watched Green Book while on a plane.

[52:20] It would be no good.

[52:21] And it was the like edited for content version.

[52:25] So all like the racial slurs were edited on her flight.

[52:28] So she's like, I don't know what's happening with this fucking movie.

[52:33] So yeah, I guess I watched clips of it over her shoulder.

[52:37] So who knows?

[52:38] Did you guys see this one?

[52:39] I did not see Green Book.

[52:40] No.

[52:41] Crash.

Dan McCoy

[52:41] You guys see Crash?

[52:42] I did see Crash.

[52:45] It's the Dave Matthews song.

[52:46] That's the Dave Matthews song.

[52:48] It might be...

[52:49] Crash into me, right.

Hallie Haglund

[52:50] The only time a song has ever won Best Picture.

Dan McCoy

[52:55] It was just that good.

[52:56] It was so good.

[52:58] It created a picture in your head.

Elliott Kalan

[53:01] They had to change the rules afterwards to show that, yes, it had to be a movie that won.

[53:06] Yeah.

[53:07] Nothing in the rule book that says a song can't win Best Picture.

[53:10] Oh boy, why didn't we write a bigger rule book?

[53:13] This is even worse than when that basketball playing dog won Best Picture.

Dan McCoy

[53:19] I think Crash is, though, my vote for the worst Best Picture that I have seen ever or of this six?

Hallie Haglund

[53:27] You know Don Cheadle went to my high school?

Stuart Wellington

[53:29] Whoa.

[53:31] I mean, he goes great.

[53:32] Was it High School Rwanda?

[53:34] Right?

[53:34] He was in Hotel Rwanda?

[53:36] Yeah, he was in that.

[53:37] He was in Hotel Rwanda, yeah.

[53:38] Was it High School for Dogs?

[53:39] He was also in that.

[53:40] Yeah.

[53:42] Wait, he was in High School for Dogs?

[53:44] Yes.

[53:46] Not a movie High School for Dogs.

[53:47] It definitely exists.

[53:48] Must love school.

[53:48] All dogs go to high school, yeah.

[53:50] So, you and Don Cheadle, were you pals?

[53:52] Must love school.

[53:53] Yeah.

[53:54] Did you and Don Cheadle sit at the same table?

[53:57] No, he's way older than me.

[54:01] I think he's got a pretty good age range, so he could play kind of anything.

[54:05] So, it's not a comment on you.

Hallie Haglund

[54:07] Well, we're not there at the same time.

Stuart Wellington

[54:09] Okay.

[54:10] But was he like a legendary figure at your school?

Hallie Haglund

[54:14] Not really.

[54:15] I can't even remember how I found this out.

[54:17] I think I read it.

[54:18] I think I found it out by reading his Wikipedia page.

[54:20] My high school is really not doing enough with that information.

Stuart Wellington

[54:24] Yeah.

[54:24] Yeah, you'd think they'd really be.

Elliott Kalan

[54:27] Meanwhile, there's a huge statue of Annie Hathaway right out front of my high school,

[54:31] you know?

[54:32] Really?

[54:32] Annie.

[54:33] I guess.

[54:34] Everyone knew her as Annie when she was growing up.

[54:36] Okay.

[54:38] Sorry.

[54:39] It's still strange to call her Ann just because everyone knew her as Annie, yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[54:43] There was a while where Elliot's Wikipedia page did incorrectly mention that Elliot had dated

[54:50] Hathaway.

Elliott Kalan

[54:51] I think my IMDb trivia may still have that, which is funny.

Stuart Wellington

[54:55] Bullshit we made up.

[54:57] Yeah, we made it up.

[54:58] Escape containment.

[54:59] Yeah.

[55:00] Mm-hmm.

[55:01] So it sounds like we have a very exciting slate of pictures for this fun-

[55:06] Certainly a long slate of pictures.

[55:08] Fourth season of Flop TV.

[55:10] Stuart bought himself good.

[55:13] The-

[55:14] I am so thankful to be joined by the stars of the Flophouse podcast.

[55:18] Thank you so much for shedding a little light on the act of performing, what has inspired you, how you prepare.

[55:27] What has been your kind of go-tos and what gives you direction for picking the movies behind Flop TV?

Elliott Kalan

[55:36] You're really making it sound like there was substance to this episode.

Dan McCoy

[55:39] No, I mean, I was going to say thank you, Stuart, for, you know, doing this, you know, episode-long advertisement for the thing we're doing.

[55:47] Yeah.

[55:48] But in a way, in a way that I think added some entertainment, a lot of joy.

[55:55] Can I ask something?

[55:55] Having Hallie here.

Elliott Kalan

[55:57] Having Hallie here helped.

[55:58] To waste Hallie's time, yeah.

Dan McCoy

[56:00] Because it was like, it seemed so much like our own bullshit if we didn't have an extra person around.

Hallie Haglund

[56:06] No, wait, I really have a question.

[56:08] Yeah, yeah.

[56:08] Is there, like, when you compare listenership between the, like, actual Flophouse episodes and the mini ones?

[56:17] Oh, huge drop-off.

[56:18] Yeah, yeah, huge, huge.

Dan McCoy

[56:21] Big drop-off.

[56:22] Huge.

[56:23] Not huge, but it's multiple thousands of people, fewer.

[56:26] I have to go podcast now.

[56:27] Okay.

Stuart Wellington

[56:28] But I want to thank you guys so much for tuning in.

[56:30] Now, this has been a Flophouse mini, which is part of the MaxFun Podcast Network.

[56:37] A network with a lot of great shows similar to this one.

[56:41] So go check them out.

[56:42] This show has been produced by Alex Smith, who goes by Howl Doughty on the internet.

[56:46] Check him out.

[56:47] Support him on Twitch, Bandcamp, et cetera.

[56:50] Thank you so much for joining me, guys.

[56:52] I've been Stuart Wellington.

[56:54] Oh, I've been Dan McCoy.

Elliott Kalan

[56:56] I've been Elliot Kalin.

[56:57] And we've been inexplicably joined by...

Hallie Haglund

[57:00] Hallie Haglund.

[57:02] Check out my sub stack.

[57:04] Oh, I should have said that on the other one.

Elliott Kalan

[57:05] We should have had you promote your sub stack.

Dan McCoy

[57:13] Well, the funny thing is, this is going to air before the main episode, which is going to make Hallie's appearance on this even more inexplicable to listeners.

Elliott Kalan

[57:25] Actually, Hallie, you should explain about your sub stack a little bit.

[57:28] At least tell us the name of it.

[57:29] Nobody's listening.

[57:31] They've already turned it off by now.

[57:33] They've thrown it in the river.

[57:33] It's called That Hurts My Feelings.

[57:35] Yeah.

Hallie Haglund

[57:36] It's great.

[57:37] And I'll write about this.

[57:38] It's called That Hurts My Feelings.

[57:40] The only thing that ever gives me a boost in followers is when I appear on this podcast, which is why I wanted to mention it.

[57:49] So sign up if you haven't already.

Stuart Wellington

[57:52] Thanks.

[57:52] It's a must read.

[57:54] It's a must read.

[57:55] Okay.

[57:55] Must read.

[57:57] Bye.

FH Mini 156 - The Peach Pit, with Hallie!

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