Ep. #370 - Moonfall

[0:00] On this episode, we discuss Moonfall.

[0:03] The frontrunner for the 2023 Academy Award for Stupidest Movie.

[0:31] Hey, everyone, and welcome to The Flophouse.

[0:37] I am Dan McCoy.

[0:39] Hey-o, it's me, Stuart Wellington.

[0:42] Also, The Flophouse.

[0:43] And I'm...

[0:44] Okay, I'm sorry.

[0:45] I didn't realize you were...

[0:46] Can I step...

[0:47] I want to step on your introduction.

[0:48] Didn't realize you were giving your credits.

[0:49] You did.

[0:50] I'm so sorry I didn't mean to step.

[0:51] No, no.

[0:52] I said it.

[0:53] I'm Ellen Kalin, stepping on Stuart's crediting of himself as... from The Flophouse in this

[0:56] intro to The Flophouse.

[0:57] Something I've never done before, but I was trying it out, and I guess...

[1:00] Yeah.

[1:01] I guess I shouldn't try new things.

[1:02] Kind of like Shriek having the powers of Shriek sort of situation.

[1:05] Yeah.

[1:06] Yeah, it's one of those.

[1:07] Yeah.

[1:08] So, hey, this is a podcast where we watch a movie that has been a critical or a commercial

[1:14] flop, and then we just... we talk about it.

[1:17] We discuss it.

[1:18] And occasionally... and occasionally, we provide a forum for the feelings of people who have

[1:22] been either to or have come from Topeka, Kansas.

[1:25] Yes.

[1:27] But that's not as regular.

[1:28] It's a secondary mission.

[1:30] Yeah.

[1:31] I would say.

[1:32] If we complete our first mission and there's still time.

[1:34] Yeah.

[1:35] Sometimes we take on that one.

[1:36] Yeah, if we do it, we'll get some bonus victory points, and that might tip the scales if the

[1:40] game's really close.

[1:41] So you're wearing your sunglasses inside.

[1:43] Is that because you're so cool?

[1:45] No, it's because I'm fucking hungover as shit, dude.

[1:48] Okay, all right.

[1:49] You were there.

[1:50] It's really throwing me off.

[1:51] I was there.

[1:52] I was there.

[1:53] It's really throwing me off that Stuart's wearing his sunglasses because I keep thinking

[1:54] he's going to terminate Dan.

[1:55] Yeah.

[1:56] Yeah.

[1:57] You think...

[1:58] Because normally, I'm just kind of boring, like Snoopy.

[2:01] But when I put these sunglasses on, I become Joe Cool, who murders people.

[2:05] A lot of people don't realize that there was a whole run of Peanuts comic strips which

[2:10] were removed and expunged from the newspapers where Joe Cool goes on a killing spree on

[2:14] a rampage.

[2:15] He doesn't kill any of the main characters from Peanuts, but there's a reason you don't

[2:18] see a lot of the adults.

[2:19] He's a contract killer.

[2:20] Yeah, exactly.

[2:22] I think you've gone on record in that you don't believe in glorifying contract killers

[2:27] and assassins.

[2:28] No, very much.

[2:29] I think the pop culture stereotype of the cool, smooth assassin who is a lethal hitman

[2:37] with amazing taste in suits and just total control is not just a pathetic fantasy, but

[2:45] also a fantasy that leads to the idealization of certain antisocial and hostile tendencies.

[2:52] Certainly, I don't want to see Snoopy playing into that.

[2:54] Yeah.

[2:55] I think you're specifically talking about Dan Aykroyd in Gross Point Blank, right?

[2:58] Yeah.

[2:59] Yeah.

[3:00] Well, I think if you're going to believe that all assassins are as cool and hot and just

[3:05] stylish and graceful as Dan Aykroyd in Gross Point Blank, then you're asking for people

[3:09] to try to go into a line of work that's very difficult, that's very hard to make a career

[3:13] in and very hard to get an opening in.

[3:15] It's what I tell people all the time.

[3:16] This kind of sounds like some lines from Gross Point Blank.

[3:19] Yeah, I guess you're right.

[3:21] So we're here today to talk about Gross Point Blank.

[3:24] Anyway, this is a movie starring John Cusack and Dan Aykroyd.

[3:26] Uh-huh.

[3:27] And Minnie Driver.

[3:28] And Minnie Driver, who is, of course, the daughter of the Micro Machines guy.

[3:31] That's why she's named Minnie Driver.

[3:33] Yeah.

[3:34] Yeah.

[3:35] She and Baby Driver are pals.

[3:38] Yeah.

[3:39] She had to work so hard to lose her accent of talking too fast so that she could be an

[3:43] actress.

[3:44] I remember seeing some cut scenes from Circle of Friends where she's just talking way too

[3:49] fast.

[3:50] And they keep saying, Minnie, Minnie, you've got to slow down.

[3:51] You've got to slow down.

[3:52] They had to slow her down for TV audiences, similar to when Jet Li was in Lethal Weapon

[3:56] 4, and they had to slow down some of his scenes because he was moving too quickly.

[4:00] Is that true?

[4:01] Yeah, because he was taught martial arts by the Micro Machines guy.

[4:03] Yeah, that's true.

[4:04] Exactly.

[4:05] Yeah.

[4:07] Guys, I also am a little low energy now that you talk about it.

[4:13] Yeah.

[4:14] I'm sweating a little.

[4:15] Hey, we're in luck, guys.

[4:16] You were both out late last night, and I spent this morning climbing up a hill carrying a

[4:20] three-year-old.

[4:21] Oh, no.

[4:22] So we went on a hike, and he actually did a great job going up.

[4:24] But on the way down, he was like, my legs are tired.

[4:26] And that means daddy carrying me all the way down.

[4:28] So we're three tired guys.

[4:30] So it's too bad we're here to talk about Moonfall, a movie that would really benefit from a high

[4:34] energy analysis.

[4:36] Well, let's hope that it rescues us from our energy funk.

[4:41] Okay.

[4:42] The gravity of the moon will pull our energy back up into the stratosphere, much as it

[4:47] does many objects in the movie, even though the Earth has more gravity than the moon.

[4:51] And that's one of the reasons that the moon orbits the Earth in real life.

[4:57] What?

[4:58] I don't know the exact science of it, but the moon does help the tides pull up.

[5:03] I don't know.

[5:04] I don't know how close the moon has to be for water to literally fly off of the Earth,

[5:07] as in the movie.

[5:09] Scientists, write in.

[5:10] Neil deGrasse Tyson, write in.

[5:11] Look, I don't know about the science of what you're saying.

[5:14] I do know that if it was close enough that that could happen, we would all be long dead.

[5:19] Oh, for sure.

[5:20] That goes without saying.

[5:22] So, Stu, you're going to take us on this space flight through the cosmos today, right?

[5:28] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[5:29] Yeah, sure.

[5:31] Okay, yeah.

[5:32] Why not?

[5:33] And you know what?

[5:34] And this is also the first time where I was like, you know what?

[5:36] Every time I watch the movie and take notes, it takes that much longer.

[5:39] I end up having to stay up late at night a bunch of times.

[5:41] Stu's doing the summary.

[5:42] I'm not even going to take notes on this one.

[5:44] So I have no notes, Stuart.

[5:45] So you are on your own.

[5:46] Okay, yeah.

[5:49] No life preserver on this one.

[5:51] Just raw dog and moonfall.

[5:52] Okay.

[5:53] You are falling off the moon without a net.

[5:55] Okay.

[5:56] Okay, so it opens with some footage of space and some production logos.

[6:01] And then, once again, we're in space and we get a date, January 12, 2011.

[6:10] And I'm like, wow, man, to be back there, you know, 2011.

[6:15] Living the dream.

[6:16] I would warn those people, so many different things.

[6:20] I mean, sure, you know, the moon's going to be a problem, but, you know, there's so many other issues going on.

[6:25] So you think that this occurs in the same timeline that we're currently existing in?

[6:30] Because I don't know if you remember, but back in, you know, like the moon didn't crash into the earth at any point.

[6:38] Oh, yeah, I guess you're right.

[6:40] No, you're right.

[6:41] Okay, so this is an alternate timeline.

[6:42] Okay, so any time where the timelines converge, you have to make sure you let me know.

[6:48] Dan, I'm curious, and I want to know where the timelines diverge.

[6:51] So what are they not dealing with in this movie that we're dealing with nowadays?

[6:54] Because obviously we're not dealing with the moon crashing into the earth.

[6:57] Do they assume they don't seem to be dealing with a shortage of baby formula?

[7:02] Yeah.

[7:03] Yeah, no one mentions that in the movie.

[7:05] No, I think that somewhere along the line we were given a choice.

[7:09] The moon can almost crash into us, or we can just have a panoply of a horrible, like, just like a smorgasbord.

[7:18] That when you combine them, it feels almost equally unpleasant.

[7:25] I got to say, I mean, the earth is running out of oxygen in the movie, and buildings are being destroyed by chunks of moon rocks falling on the sky.

[7:31] I'll take this universe.

[7:33] You finally created an alternate universe where I'm like, yeah, I'll stick where I am.

[7:36] I don't need to go to that one.

[7:39] I think I'm going for the moon, but we'll see if I make the right call.

[7:42] Let's go on.

[7:43] I don't need to live in the universe where Sam Tarly is in love with Elon Musk and can't stop talking about how great Elon Musk is.

[7:51] So I saw this movie in the theater, and I want to talk about that.

[7:56] Give us some backstory, Dan, before Stewart gets us.

[7:58] Stewart's established that we're in space in 2011.

[8:00] Give us some backstory.

[8:01] I want to talk a little bit about that.

[8:03] I was going to say later, but I can't do it now.

[8:05] But I will say, like, I had a great time watching Moonfall in the theater, but, like, the one part that disgusted me was, like, every time he was like, what would Elon do?

[8:15] Or he's like, oh, Elon, I love him.

[8:17] I'm like, fuck you, guy.

[8:19] Like, I almost don't want you to save the world.

[8:22] And you saw it in 40X.

[8:25] So when anytime he said, Elon, did the chair shake?

[8:28] Yeah, that's what I wanted to talk about.

[8:30] I saw this movie in 40X, which if you're unfamiliar with it, the fourth dimension in this case is a chair that fucks with you.

[8:39] The four dimensions of width, height, depth, and shaking.

[8:45] Yeah.

[8:46] And water in your face sometimes.

[8:48] You get squirted.

[8:49] I had never seen that.

[8:51] As we know, the fourth dimension is squirts.

[8:53] Yeah.

[8:54] Well, that's why all Gallagher concerts are in 40X.

[8:59] All of them.

[9:00] Every single one.

[9:01] Every single one.

[9:02] I had never seen a movie this way before.

[9:05] And I sort of assumed, like, that the movement of the chair would be subtle, let's say.

[9:12] And I will say – I'll tell you this.

[9:14] It is not – it is, like, basically like you're on an amusement park ride, which –

[9:20] Which is what this movie tries to be.

[9:22] Yeah, well, the intelligence of this movie is perfectly matched to 40X because it is –

[9:27] I mean, I have to say, the level of intelligence of the movie, it should be the video you're watching as you're about to get on a roller coaster called Dragonfall.

[9:34] Exactly.

[9:35] Yeah.

[9:36] Yeah, yeah.

[9:37] And –

[9:38] Quick!

[9:39] We need to go to the moon to fix it!

[9:40] You!

[9:41] Hold this!

[9:42] Well, I guess you'll do.

[9:44] Okay.

[9:45] Climb into your lunar pod and it's just a roller coaster car.

[9:47] Yeah.

[9:48] Yeah.

[9:49] But these chairs, they don't just sort of, like, shift around.

[9:50] Like, at the beginning, for instance, where in space they were, like, listing and drifting as if you were, you know, in zero gravity.

[9:57] That sounds awesome.

[9:58] But they also –

[9:59] And they sucked all the oxygen.

[10:00] to get out of the theater too, so it felt like space.

[10:02] Yeah, it was just like the sense around scene

[10:03] in Kentucky Fried Movie, yeah.

[10:05] They also have parts that kind of like,

[10:06] the seat will sort of like jab you in the back at times,

[10:10] and it will squirt water at you.

[10:12] You better believe later on, there's some water scenes

[10:15] where we got squirted a lot,

[10:17] and air will be puffed at you.

[10:19] I didn't get to see Moonfall in 40X,

[10:21] but I did see Belfast in 40X,

[10:23] and it seemed like it really distracted

[10:24] from the experience. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[10:27] So guys, we're in space.

[10:31] We got some astronauts.

[10:34] We have- Who are these astronauts?

[10:35] Tell us about them.

[10:36] Harper, played by Patrick Wilson.

[10:40] He's kind of like the hero, hero type.

[10:43] Yeah, he is kind of like the hero.

[10:45] And his partner is Halle Berry, who plays Joe Fowler.

[10:52] I'm Linda Fowler.

[10:53] Joe's Linda Fowler.

[10:54] Who's kind of like another hero.

[10:56] She's another hero,

[10:57] but she's a little more level-headed, I think.

[11:00] But actually, no,

[11:01] because she makes some interesting choices later on.

[11:04] Well, Joe's Linda Fowler,

[11:05] she's supposed to be characterized

[11:06] as like the by-the-book one,

[11:08] and Patrick Wilson is the loose canon,

[11:10] but they're both fairly loose canon-y,

[11:12] and neither one is someone

[11:13] who should be in a position of authority.

[11:15] Neither of them plays-

[11:16] They saved the world from the moon, Elliot.

[11:19] That's true, actually.

[11:20] Yeah, I guess, because the only way to do it

[11:20] was to break the rules of gravity and physics.

[11:23] If that's wrong, I don't want to be right.

[11:26] They were like, hey,

[11:27] we won't be held back by the laws of physics.

[11:29] Those laws were made to be broken,

[11:30] and they're introduced arguing over the lyrics

[11:33] to Toto's Africa, and it's like, come on.

[11:37] How much more of a boomer granddad movie

[11:40] could this be introduced as to?

[11:42] The movie takes place in 2011.

[11:43] It's already an old song that they're arguing about,

[11:46] but anyway.

[11:48] It was extremely popular.

[11:49] It was the number one plate on Spotify, though,

[11:51] like a couple years back.

[11:53] That's true, that's true.

[11:54] People do love it.

[11:55] I mean, it probably trended on fucking TikTok or some shit.

[11:59] Well, I think Weezer,

[12:03] people wanted Weezer to do a cover,

[12:04] and then they did, and I guess, great.

[12:07] Who were those people?

[12:09] Your change.org petition worked.

[12:12] Weezer did a cover of Africa by Toto.

[12:15] You know what?

[12:16] I talk about the baby boomers a lot

[12:17] and how much they ruined things,

[12:19] but I will say that they did marshal

[12:22] a lot of their resources towards protesting a war

[12:25] as opposed to huge campaigns to get the Snyder Cut released

[12:28] or get Weezer cut to cover a Toto song.

[12:30] I think there have been plenty of protests lately,

[12:35] but anyway, let's.

[12:37] Yeah, no, LA's only focusing on those protests.

[12:40] And who knows?

[12:41] And you're also probably ignoring

[12:43] all the dumbass protests that probably happened

[12:45] back in the 60s where people were like,

[12:47] release the big bopper cut of this fucking song

[12:50] or some shit.

[12:51] That's probably true, yeah, yeah.

[12:53] They just, that shit doesn't get in the history books,

[12:56] you know?

[12:57] The original version had a bunch more.

[12:58] Hello, baby.

[12:59] Yeah.

[13:02] Okay, so they're hanging out with their,

[13:05] they're arguing about Toto.

[13:07] They're not even like hold the line or something.

[13:12] Okay, and they don't hold the line

[13:15] when a bunch of space debris

[13:17] that actually behaves like a living thing,

[13:19] it's like this swarm of nanomachines

[13:23] slams into them.

[13:24] Micro-machines, if you will.

[13:25] And they move really fast.

[13:26] That's true, actually.

[13:28] And it sends them spinning.

[13:30] It knocks Joe out.

[13:31] The only person who,

[13:32] the only people who witness it are Patrick Wilson

[13:36] and Marcus, who goes spinning off into space

[13:39] never to be seen again.

[13:42] Bye-bye, Marcus.

[13:42] A horrible death.

[13:44] But we learn later that Patrick Wilson manages

[13:47] to get back on the shuttle.

[13:49] Despite the electricity being out on the shuttle,

[13:51] he manages to land it.

[13:53] The only human to ever do such a thing.

[13:55] He lands the shuttle safely.

[13:57] I think it's very funny.

[13:58] They keep saying you're the only person

[14:00] who's ever landed a space shuttle without any power,

[14:02] which is pretty impressive,

[14:03] but it's like not that many people

[14:04] have the chance to land a space shuttle.

[14:06] Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah.

[14:07] You're the first person ever to fart on the moon.

[14:10] Yeah, well, most people don't have that opportunity.

[14:12] You're saying it's like the,

[14:13] like sort of like most accidents happen in the home.

[14:17] Like you get no shit.

[14:18] That's where you are all the time.

[14:21] Or like when Elliot's always talking about

[14:23] how he could dunk a basketball, he just doesn't try.

[14:25] But if he tried, he probably could.

[14:27] I'd probably be, yeah, I'd probably have the record, yeah.

[14:30] Or if like for some reason you were at a hockey game

[14:33] with your brother, and one of the goalkeepers

[14:36] got sick with diarrhea, and they're like,

[14:40] does anyone in the-

[14:41] Yeah, they call that a brown eyes situation.

[14:43] Does anyone in the audience, can anyone play goalkeeper?

[14:47] And the thing is, for whatever reason,

[14:49] you get volunteered.

[14:50] So they suit you up, and you go on the ice,

[14:52] and you know what?

[14:53] I bet you'd be amazing at it.

[14:54] Yeah, yeah, I mean, that's why I don't do it,

[14:56] is because I'd be so good

[14:57] that I'd blow the other players out of water.

[14:59] That's the thing, yeah.

[14:59] Frozen water, ice.

[15:00] It would change the game.

[15:01] Yeah.

[15:02] So back on Earth, oh, and then also-

[15:04] That's the thing, all these hockey fans would be like,

[15:05] we could have had this all these years,

[15:08] and they wouldn't be able to live

[15:09] with the missed opportunities, yeah.

[15:12] So we also see that on the moon,

[15:16] something's going on.

[15:18] The swarm is doing something to the moon.

[15:19] Everything's happening on the moon.

[15:21] Shortly afterwards, hero astronaut Patrick Wilson is-

[15:25] It's funny, because everything's happening on the moon,

[15:27] but that place, I can tell you guys, there's no atmosphere.

[15:30] Yeah, that's true.

[15:32] It's such a party place, but no atmosphere.

[15:34] So Patrick Wilson is on trial.

[15:38] Well, we can introduce this, let's not ignore the fact

[15:42] that we hear, he's in the middle of getting divorced,

[15:48] his wife is moving out, they're moving stuff,

[15:51] and the reason we hear that he is in these hearings

[15:55] is because his young son is watching them on a laptop.

[16:00] So you're saying he's a young son,

[16:02] he's a young son and kind of diminutive, he's small,

[16:05] so would you call him a Sonny?

[16:07] Yeah, he is called Sonny.

[16:09] That is his name.

[16:09] That is what they call him, yeah.

[16:11] They named him after their favorite James Caan character.

[16:14] But it was so funny to me, I couldn't tell whether

[16:19] these are like, these presumably are not live hearings,

[16:22] like he's just revisiting his father's-

[16:25] He is obsessively re-watching hearings,

[16:28] and what I read was that this scene was actually shot later

[16:31] to explain things to the audience,

[16:33] that this scene was not originally in there,

[16:35] and they needed a scene that basically said,

[16:37] they blamed your father for the space shuttle emergency,

[16:42] that's why he doesn't work for NASA anymore,

[16:44] and he can't get a job, and why we're moving

[16:45] and we don't talk to him,

[16:46] and I'm getting remarried to Michael Peña.

[16:48] Like, that's all the stuff.

[16:49] And gratuitous dig on New Jersey in there,

[16:51] the kid goes, ugh, do we have to move to New Jersey?

[16:54] I hate New Jersey.

[16:55] And they don't move to New Jersey.

[16:56] I don't know why it gets brought up.

[16:58] They don't live there, in it.

[16:59] I mean, yeah, they may briefly move to New Jersey.

[17:02] I mean, we don't, there's a 10-year jump coming up.

[17:06] That's true, they could have moved around during that time.

[17:08] That's where Michael Peña's first dealership was,

[17:10] and then he expands nationwide,

[17:12] just so he can get out of that hellhole

[17:14] that is his nursing state.

[17:15] This is one of the first of many dumb things

[17:17] in the movie, movie two, where,

[17:19] oh, you think this movie's dumb?

[17:22] Well, I would argue, I don't think it's the first.

[17:24] I think the dumb things start right

[17:25] from the beginning of the movie.

[17:26] Well, one of the first.

[17:28] The, like, they fired him from NASA,

[17:30] they decided it was human error, all this shit,

[17:33] and it's like, I guess later on,

[17:35] we're meant to believe it's part of the cover-up

[17:38] that we find, but it's like,

[17:40] she was knocked unconscious by something.

[17:43] It's not human error.

[17:45] Like, whether or not you think

[17:45] that his crazy story about nanobots is true,

[17:50] you know, like, she was knocked unconscious,

[17:52] and he did rescue her and piloted it home,

[17:55] so, like, for them to be like,

[17:57] all of it is your fault is weird to me.

[18:01] You'd think they'd wanna keep close the guy

[18:03] who is powerful enough that he can knock out a spaceship

[18:06] on his own, you know, that they wouldn't wanna throw him

[18:08] out of the organization

[18:09] to give him a reason to go against NASA.

[18:10] But it is very, there's a lot of,

[18:12] there's just a lot of, this whole movie has,

[18:15] like, the style of the movie is, like, dumbness,

[18:18] is to be dumb, and I texted Dan and Stuart,

[18:21] and I was like, I'm 20 minutes of this movie,

[18:22] it's maybe the most flagrantly stupid movie I've ever seen.

[18:25] It's like the movie is-

[18:26] And you're barely in it, it gets so much better.

[18:28] It's like it's waving its stupidness in your face,

[18:31] and it keeps daring you, thinking, it's like,

[18:34] you think this is as dumb as I can get?

[18:35] I can get dumber, we're gonna get stupider.

[18:39] You have to really admire the movie,

[18:40] because the movie at no point decides

[18:42] to be reasonable or rational.

[18:43] It's just so stupid, like, there's a, we'll get to it,

[18:46] but there's a plot development,

[18:48] where someone makes an information leap

[18:51] that is something that I thought movies didn't do anymore.

[18:54] There's the one trick that involves a newspaper

[18:56] getting dirty in a place where there's an article

[18:59] that has information, the character gets,

[19:00] and, like, shoot him up in front of that

[19:02] 15 or whatever years ago.

[19:04] Like, it's, oh, I was like, movie, this is amazing.

[19:07] So we have a 10-year jump,

[19:09] nothing happens between 2011 and 2021.

[19:13] We are introduced to a new-

[19:14] I think they refer to it as the great boring time

[19:16] in the movie, yeah.

[19:18] We are introduced to Casey Houseman,

[19:21] kind of an oddball conspiracy theorist fellow,

[19:24] who we will later learn is actually a megastructurist,

[19:31] and he has broken into a facility

[19:34] and is using, trying to use a satellite

[19:36] to track the motion of the moon.

[19:39] Moving on.

[19:41] I was gonna say, Casey Houseman is the classic character

[19:43] we've seen in other flophouse movies

[19:44] like Godzilla vs. Kong,

[19:46] where he is the character who believes the thing

[19:49] that all of science says is not true,

[19:52] and the movie says, yes, you're right.

[19:54] Do your own research from now on on the internet,

[19:56] you cannot trust scientists,

[19:58] you can't trust the scientific consensus.

[20:00] If you have a crazy fucked up theory and you've pierced together a bunch of things from computers that prove you right, you're right.

[20:07] Go with it. Don't listen to authorities. You know better than they do.

[20:10] Do you think like a generation of people growing up with pop culture reinforcing that character and stereotype, do you think that's had any positive effects on the world?

[20:19] I'm glad you asked that. I would say nothing but positive effects. Thank you, Stuart.

[20:23] We currently live in an era where everybody is a genius scientist who knows how to – who has basic research skills.

[20:29] So thanks to movies, we've developed that. No, obviously. It's a terrible thing.

[20:33] We now live in a world where nobody trusts anything, and this is – and movies are just one brick in that wall between us and mutual understanding and agreement, but it's a pretty big brick.

[20:42] So it makes me mad to see this still being done now.

[20:45] Oh, yeah. I mean I don't want to get too real about life, but I find it –

[20:49] Get real, man. It's moonful.

[20:50] Guys, let's just get fucking real.

[20:52] Let's get real.

[20:53] All right, let me –

[20:54] Let's start being polite. Let's start being real, dumbass.

[20:55] Jesus Christ.

[20:56] I was not being polite.

[20:57] So is it – like this kind of thinking where it's like I know better. I know best about all sorts of things.

[21:04] Like people's sense of self and self-worth and their own intelligence and all of that must be so tiny if it is threatened by the idea that someone else who has studied a thing might know more than them.

[21:21] Yeah, you're right. You're exactly right.

[21:23] It's absolutely bizarre to me. It's like I feel like I'm a fairly smart man. I don't think I could, say, perform surgery on myself.

[21:32] Well, there's the thing about being smart enough to know what you don't know or to know that there is stuff that you don't know and that that's the basic foundation of wisdom or knowledge.

[21:41] But I think there's a lot of people who – and I'm speaking mostly of men but not entirely.

[21:46] It's women also, but it's a big part of the male makeup are where it's like if I give any ground at all ever, then I am giving them the opportunity to kill me.

[21:58] I have failed.

[21:59] To kill my soul basically. Yeah, I've failed as a man if I ever admit that I don't know something or I'm wrong about something.

[22:05] And Casey Hausman, he's Sam Tarly, so he's super charming. He's got an English accent even though he has an American mom, which is not a plot hole because my own nephew and niece are in the exact same situation.

[22:15] They have American parents. They have English accents.

[22:17] He probably did a semester abroad.

[22:20] No, no. I think his dad is – I think his dad is English and he lived there when he was growing up.

[22:25] Oh, okay. Fine.

[22:27] But once he starts talking about Elon Musk, it's like, oh, right.

[22:30] This guy is not like a cute, harmless, wise fool or something.

[22:35] He's probably like an incel. He probably hates women.

[22:38] He's lonely in a way that he could change but he feels like that means compromising with the Stacys of the world or whatever.

[22:45] It's like there's a darker side to this character of Casey Hausman who – and the more the movie went on, the less and less comfortable I became with him.

[22:53] That it was like, oh, yeah, this is the – this is not a – this is a guy who is not like – probably in real life like not a great guy.

[22:59] Like he's got some negative things about him and he's probably – I don't want to say he's definitely married to a Japanese body pillow but possibly.

[23:05] So he went the full – he made an honest pillow of this.

[23:10] I mean, yeah, there's something to be said about that.

[23:12] Yeah, because he believes in the ancient classical Roman standards of humanity and marriage.

[23:17] You have to marry that body pillow.

[23:20] OK. Well, meanwhile, Halle Berry is now the deputy director of NASA.

[23:28] See, that's what happens when you go buy the book is that you get rewarded.

[23:33] When you play the game.

[23:34] Yeah, so she – and she's informed by her team that the moon is in fact coming closer to the earth.

[23:40] Its rotation is somehow bringing it closer to the planet earth, which is strange.

[23:45] Yeah, and they – so NASA knows this, and later on Patrick Wilson is like – he – like talking about Casey, like he figured it out before you guys did.

[23:55] And it's like, no, he didn't.

[23:57] Like this is the thing that annoyed me in the movie.

[23:59] He didn't.

[24:00] Like they knew they were working on it.

[24:03] Well, he figured it out like 12 hours before they did.

[24:07] I guess.

[24:08] I mean all he accomplished was like eventually – we'll see.

[24:10] He leaks it to the press, which causes a panic.

[24:13] I mean although the moon then also starts causing a panic shortly thereafter by sucking things into the sky.

[24:19] I mean I don't – in this case, much as with the Supreme Court recently, I don't think it was the leak that was the problem.

[24:24] I think it was the moon coming towards the earth that was the problem.

[24:27] Just like with the Supreme Court.

[24:29] Yeah, where the decision is really the troublesome aspect and not so much the leak in my opinion.

[24:33] So now Casey trying to figure out a way to get his information out there.

[24:40] He is inspired by his cat Fuzz Aldrin's urine to pick up a urine-soaked newspaper, and he realizes that he could track down disgraced former hero astronaut Patrick Wilson.

[24:54] Wait, Dan.

[24:55] I want to just rewind to say another stupid thing that the movie does.

[24:59] Well, I think we may be talking about the same thing.

[25:01] He tries to call NASA directly before that, and he reaches the NASA gift shop, which is apparently open in the middle of the night.

[25:09] Like this woman is there alone.

[25:11] Yes, this is crazy.

[25:12] Like the lights are all out.

[25:14] I'm not sure.

[25:16] The store is closed.

[25:17] The lights are out, and yet there's someone manning the phones, and she says, I'll pass you along.

[25:22] I just sell t-shirts to kids, and it's like hold on.

[25:25] So why does the direct number –

[25:26] Like she's not even doing inventory at this point.

[25:28] The only thing I'm going to say is maybe he dated her briefly, and he knows – and that's the number she gave him because she does not want him having her real number.

[25:37] Sure, sure.

[25:38] But why – maybe she just turned out the lights because she's about to leave for work, and then she heard the phone ring, and she's like, well, I'll pick it up.

[25:44] Maybe it's a question about how much we charge for astronaut ice cream or what it's made out of or whatever.

[25:49] But like the idea that he calls NASA, and it's all for the joke of he called the gift shop.

[25:53] But they must have been like, well, he's calling at night, so I guess the gift shop lights should be turned out to show that it's night.

[25:58] Why is she sitting there?

[25:59] Why is she answering the phone?

[26:01] Why is this the number he called?

[26:02] It is – yeah, I'm glad you brought it up, Dan.

[26:04] That's exactly what I want to talk about.

[26:05] I think she was half expecting – she answered the phone half expecting it to be Ben Affleck asking if they have live music.

[26:14] Ben, we're gift shop.

[26:15] We don't.

[26:16] Your wife is not sleeping with a pianist here.

[26:18] So he wants to share his theory that the moon is hollow and artificial created by aliens, the idea that the moon is a megastructure.

[26:28] Which is Latin for big structure.

[26:30] Yeah.

[26:31] Patrick Wilson is now divorced.

[26:33] He can't make his rent.

[26:34] He drinks beer and his son is arrested for taking a sports car for a drug-induced joy ride.

[26:40] And it's on TV.

[26:41] It's like your son is on TV right now and he's being – he's in a high-speed chase.

[26:44] And then later Patrick Wilson is arguing his case and he's like, he's a good kid.

[26:48] Like, not really.

[26:49] Doesn't seem to be.

[26:50] All signs point to no.

[26:52] So he attends the bail hearing.

[26:54] He's so rich he didn't know it was a bad thing that he was doing.

[26:57] He has affluenza.

[26:59] Yeah, he attempts – he goes to the bail hearing but he just ends up messing it up and causing trouble between him, his ex-wife, and her new husband, as we mentioned, played by Michael Peña.

[27:12] And they have two daughters together.

[27:13] Now here's another dumb thing at the court hearing.

[27:15] And this is – so Michael Peña has hooked –

[27:18] The fucking lawyer?

[27:19] Yes, the lawyer.

[27:20] He's hooked him up with his high-priced lawyer and the lawyer – and the judge is like, this is outrageous, blah, blah, blah.

[27:26] And the lawyer gets up and he says, your honor, we are very prepared to pay whatever bail you set.

[27:33] Money is no object.

[27:34] And it's like, what?

[27:35] Are you trying to get him thrown in jail?

[27:37] What are you doing?

[27:38] Yeah, yeah.

[27:39] To get up and be like, don't worry, judge.

[27:41] We're so rich.

[27:42] We can pay whatever fucking amount you charge.

[27:44] It doesn't matter.

[27:45] You're nothing.

[27:46] The system is nothing.

[27:47] He's a rich boy, so we'll just get him out.

[27:49] What a crazy thing for a lawyer to say.

[27:50] That's why I'm using the word crazy so much.

[27:53] It's one of those things where it's such a dumb moment.

[27:56] Everything is dumb about it.

[27:57] The judge, yeah, throws him in jail because he's like, oh, well, then that means he's a flight risk.

[28:01] But beyond how it's bad strategy there, you don't walk into a car dealership and be like, I'm prepared to pay whatever you tell me.

[28:11] Like this lawyer is not interested in saving Michael Peña any money apparently.

[28:18] It's one step above a mobster just peeling bills off of a roll and throwing them at the judge and being like, what do you need to make this thing go away?

[28:25] Yeah, it's such a it's such a nuts thing.

[28:27] And then Peter Wilson gets up and he goes, Your Honor, he's a good boy, which is not a great argument.

[28:33] He's like, those were his friend's drugs that were in the car, not his drugs.

[28:37] It's like not a strong argument.

[28:39] That doesn't work.

[28:40] I'm going to tell you it doesn't work with parents or judges.

[28:44] OK, so word gets out that the moon is out of orbit and people start to seriously freak.

[28:51] Society collapses almost instantly.

[28:53] And it feels like half the population just went away.

[28:57] Like every I would expect there to be more people in almost all these crowd shots.

[29:02] Society collapses almost instantly.

[29:04] And yet, on the other hand, like stuff seems to keep working for a very long time.

[29:09] Like people.

[29:10] I mean, like later on, there's like concerns about like generators or we got to get oxygen or whatever.

[29:14] But like people still have power.

[29:16] But also there's a lot of people being like, well, I'm going to go.

[29:19] I'm going to run away.

[29:21] Like in the next scene or so, you know, like the head of NASA resigns and leaves Halle Berry in charge.

[29:30] And I kept wondering, like, where do you think you're escaping to?

[29:33] Like the moon is crashing into the earth.

[29:36] Like I know from living through the past few years that people don't act rationally when there's a crisis.

[29:43] But even so, like what is the plan here?

[29:46] Well, I think what he was like, I've got to go check on my dad or whatever.

[29:50] I think I think there it's just he's going to do.

[29:52] He can't really do anything.

[29:53] So it's like I'm just sure my family's OK for the most part.

[29:56] He's not he's not like Tetsuo.

[29:58] He can't fly up to the moon.

[30:00] If only, oh, if only, if only he was Tetsuo, what a different movie this would be.

[30:04] It would definitely be interesting.

[30:07] You'd wonder how a drug-addicted, psychotic Japanese teenager became the director of NASA.

[30:11] Like, right off the bat, that's a big question that I would have.

[30:13] I mean, I would accept that.

[30:14] That's your story. That's your plot.

[30:15] That's actually, yeah.

[30:16] A little more, if the character wasn't, like, literally shown to be one of the few people

[30:22] who could do something about this in the world.

[30:24] Well, it's, but it's another, it's another instance this movie is like,

[30:27] and I hate to be just digging too deep into the politics of what is essentially a stupid

[30:31] popcorn movie.

[30:32] But that's where our politics are writ the largest, Dan, in our escapist entertainment,

[30:36] is that what it is saying is, oh, the people in charge only care about themselves and can't

[30:40] be trusted.

[30:41] The director of NASA, who in theory could do something about this, he just leaves.

[30:46] He doesn't, he's not understood.

[30:47] And he throws it in the hands of Halle Berry, who is, you know, his, his, who is marked

[30:52] as one of the trustworthy human beings and Americans in it.

[30:54] So it's another one, it's just another one of those things that reinforces that idea

[30:58] of like, authority is not there to help you.

[31:00] So don't, so you can't trust in it.

[31:02] And it takes just a ragtag team of folks to go up to the moon and blow up an alien robot.

[31:08] But also on top of that, we just went through what could have been, and thankfully it wasn't

[31:14] because of medical technology, ultimately, what could have been like a massive disaster

[31:18] for humanity.

[31:19] And for the most part, people just kind of muddled through it and they bought a lot more

[31:23] toilet paper.

[31:24] And a big chunk of humanity refused to do anything about it and refused to change their

[31:29] ways.

[31:29] So I kind of believe if the moon was coming towards the earth, you'd have a lot of people

[31:32] who just out of sheer inability to grasp the enormity of that would be like, I guess I'm

[31:37] going to go to work today, talk to my coworkers about how it sucks.

[31:40] The moon's going to crash into the earth.

[31:42] There's a scene in, um, there's a scene in the movie the day after where nukes are about

[31:47] to land on this town.

[31:48] And this woman is rushing around making the beds in their house.

[31:51] And her husband's like, stop with the bed making.

[31:53] The bombs are falling.

[31:55] What are you doing?

[31:55] And I think it's a lot of that.

[31:56] Like if the moon was going to crash in earth instead of like people fleeing the cities

[32:01] because you know that because they know they live in a disaster movie.

[32:03] So famous buildings are a specific target for chunks from the moon that I think you'd

[32:08] have a lot of people who just kind of like close their eyes to it and just keep on doing

[32:12] what they do.

[32:13] And they're like, oh, this moon, what are you going to do about it?

[32:16] Well, do you see the game last night?

[32:17] That kind of thing.

[32:18] Anyway, so speaking of doing stuff about the moon, um, Patrick Wilson tracks down Casey

[32:23] Houseman, who explains that the moon is a megastructure built around a captured white

[32:26] dwarf star, uh, not white dwarf, the magazine, which features a Warhammer content, but we'll

[32:32] get into that later.

[32:33] Um, and it's not, it's not, it's not VHS copies of red dwarf, the British science fiction

[32:38] sitcom.

[32:39] No, nor is it the candle moss song, black dwarf, all different, all different songs,

[32:44] all different things.

[32:44] Um, okay.

[32:45] Uh, but something may have happened, uh, to the star.

[32:48] Thus the course of the moon has been altered.

[32:51] Um, the Navy, uh, sends a shuttle up to the moon, but it gets attacked by that swarm of

[32:57] nanomachines and it murders all the people on the, uh, on the, on the thing.

[33:02] It just slams right into their faces.

[33:04] Slams right in their faces.

[33:06] A powerful attack.

[33:07] Um, it's like, it's like they have no defense over.

[33:10] No, it's like if you bit into a gusher and instead of fruit juice, a stream of a fountain

[33:14] of nanobots just flew into your face and smashed your face.

[33:17] That would be terrible.

[33:18] I would certainly ask for my money back for that package of gushers similes.

[33:23] I'm trying to, I'm trying to get gushers more interested in the pot.

[33:26] You think that that's where the money is in gushers?

[33:29] It's in gushers.

[33:30] There is, if the money is literally inside of gushers, that's why they put that fruit

[33:33] juice in there to squirt you in the face.

[33:34] So you drop it and you don't take the money that's hidden inside.

[33:37] So, uh, Harper and Casey Houseman, uh, are at a hotel and they get flooded.

[33:44] Uh, there's a big, uh, this is when the movie kind of turns into full on disaster movie

[33:49] Poseidon adventure when.

[33:50] Yes.

[33:50] And now let's talk about how, how.

[33:52] So, uh, Casey's friend Ziggy is getting high in the lobby of this mostly abandoned hotel

[33:58] and he's, he's got his feet up.

[34:00] So he doesn't notice that there's ankle deep water rushing into the place until he lowers

[34:04] his feet.

[34:05] And then he wakes up Casey and, and Harper and he goes, look outside guys.

[34:08] And they look outside and there is an enormous wave of water rushing towards the town.

[34:13] And you're like, no one heard this.

[34:14] No one felt the rumbling of it.

[34:16] Like it's, it is, it's such, it's such movie logic that if, if you can't see a thing in

[34:21] on the screen, then you also can't hear it.

[34:24] You can't feel it.

[34:24] You can't smell it.

[34:26] Where were there for DX seats, Dan, so that they could feel the thing that was actually

[34:29] happening to them.

[34:30] You gotta believe, you better believe that there was a water being squirted in my face

[34:34] when all this was happening.

[34:37] Like it was like a gusher was in front of me.

[34:39] You're also biting gushers because you want it to be hydrated.

[34:43] That 40 X water.

[34:45] I'm a little worried.

[34:46] Like I'm sure it's clean.

[34:47] Yeah.

[34:49] It seems like, I don't know, especially in this day and age, they just recycle it after

[34:54] each viewing where they just like, like, like there's still suits or something and they

[34:59] scrape it off your face.

[35:00] And I was wearing a mask and I was definitely before the show worried about how much water

[35:06] there would be.

[35:07] Like, I was like, I thought it would be like in a, in UHF when he drinks from the fire

[35:11] hose and a fire hydrant and it just blasts that kid right off my mask to get saturated.

[35:17] It seemed like a bad idea, but it was, it was more like a fine mist.

[35:21] Yeah.

[35:22] Stuart is so tired.

[35:24] Yeah.

[35:25] Well, I should mention also, this is the main goof list on IMDb page for moonfall.

[35:29] That white dwarf stars are enormous.

[35:31] They're much bigger than the earth.

[35:32] You could not fit one inside the moon, apparently.

[35:35] And I'm not a scientist.

[35:36] I'm certainly not an astrophysicist, but it's, it kept seem to me like it kept bothering

[35:40] me that the reason the moon is in orbit around the earth is because of the earth's gravity,

[35:44] right?

[35:44] The earth, the mass of the earth is what's holding the moon in place.

[35:47] So the idea that the moon is powered by some kind of anti gravity star.

[35:52] And that once that gets turned off, the moon starts falling into the earth and objects

[35:57] on earth start being pulled up to the moon.

[35:59] It all seemed very, I was like, what about the earth?

[36:01] But the earth has gravity, right?

[36:02] Like we live in a planet with gravity.

[36:04] Well, but in this case, it is a super massive thing.

[36:08] The white dwarf star.

[36:09] But like that just adds other questions.

[36:12] Like why, why wasn't the earth pulled into the moon before this?

[36:16] Like what is this anti gravity technology that the superstructure has?

[36:21] Like I remember, like this was by the, like I saw this with a group of friends, my friend

[36:26] Ashley, like this was the thing she could not get over.

[36:28] She's like, I have read a bunch of stuff about astronomy and the fact that there was like

[36:35] it's a star in the middle.

[36:36] This is absurd.

[36:39] You know, you know, it's a, it's a Roland Emmerich movie.

[36:43] So you just said, can I remind you again that this movie is dumb?

[36:45] Like it's almost, it seems beside the point to even be bothered by how, how messed up

[36:50] the science is in this movie.

[36:51] Because the human behavior in this movie makes no sense.

[36:54] Like nothing.

[36:54] It's a dumb, it's such a dumb movie.

[36:56] It feels like, like it wouldn't surprise me if it turned out that if they were like, surprise,

[37:00] this was the first ever movie written by an algorithm.

[37:03] Like a computer wrote this movie.

[37:04] There's a part where Casey Houseman, he, he hears, he sees in the newspaper that, that

[37:09] Harper is going to be speaking to a group of kids at the Los Angeles, at the Griffith

[37:12] Park Observatory.

[37:13] And he goes there and impersonates Harper for a little bit to teach these kids about

[37:17] how the moon is hollow and it's a megastructure.

[37:20] And then he's talking to Harper and he goes, Harper, you've got to get me to NASA.

[37:23] And I said to the screen, I said, NASA and me are not speaking terms anymore.

[37:27] And then Harper says that exact line.

[37:29] And I'm like, yeah, this was a movie written by a computer.

[37:31] Like it's so, and I read, but then reading on Wikipedia, they're like, the script was

[37:34] in development for four years.

[37:36] And I'm like, how was it, how did it take longer than four days to write this script?

[37:41] So Halle Berry gets a field promotion.

[37:44] She is now the director of NASA.

[37:45] So she starts digging into some old NASA secrets.

[37:48] And of course, this, uh, she doing this disturbs Donald Sutherland from his suicide pistol

[37:54] cleaning from his ancient slumber.

[37:58] This is the bowels of the bureaucracy is so funny because he like, he sees like, you know,

[38:04] Donald Sutherland was down there, like, you know, he looking very wizened as he's an elderly

[38:10] man now.

[38:11] And he's in the shadows mostly.

[38:13] Like he, you know, he seems to just sort of be like the gnome who lives in the NASA archives,

[38:20] who's just been waiting for this moment because he sees like Halle Berry coming down, you

[38:25] know, uh, on his security camera and he puts a pistol on his desk and then he like comes

[38:30] out, explains the plot of the movie.

[38:35] And then sort of is like, I have some business on my desk.

[38:38] I need to take care of.

[38:41] It's so, it's so horrible.

[38:43] But I laughed because it's just like, well, having explained things, I must go and die.

[38:51] My, my dying has been fulfilled.

[38:55] I've achieved my purpose on this earth.

[38:57] You know, I used to say that God gave me a certain list of purposes and I'm so far behind

[39:02] now I'll never die, but I just did it.

[39:04] So now it's time for me to go.

[39:05] So you can have my shirt that says that with a picture of mean Calvin on it.

[39:09] But, uh, so Halle Berry has learned that the military has known for years that the moon

[39:14] is hollow and there's an evil robot that lives inside it.

[39:16] And they were building a weapon codenamed ZX-7, an EMP device to kill the, the robot

[39:22] swarm.

[39:23] But it was abandoned for budget reasons, which is a silly explanation because it's like,

[39:28] there's no budget that's so small that the military can't build a space weapon that nobody

[39:32] wants.

[39:32] Like the government is like, Hey, we don't want to buy 300 tanks.

[39:37] The military goes another, actually the military says, we don't want 300 tanks.

[39:40] And the Congress says, you're making those tanks.

[39:42] We're making them.

[39:43] So there's no, there's no budget.

[39:45] Then the thing is like, they still have it.

[39:48] It's not like, right.

[39:49] It didn't make the budget was going to like a guy who hangs out with it.

[39:56] Like that was the budget.

[40:00] the budget to pay it was just the budget to pay for new light bulbs for the building that Donald

[40:03] Sutherland works in where he keeps the company and that's why it's so dark in there this is also a

[40:07] part that confused me because like later on um the there are all these you know recalculations that

[40:16] need to happen because they have severely underestimated how massive the moon is like

[40:21] they're like oh you know we thought we had this much time but we only have this much time because

[40:25] the thing is decaying so much faster the orbit is decaying because of the mass and i'm just like

[40:31] i just but okay like i if nasa knew secretly what the moon was like at this point shouldn't they

[40:41] have that information and not be making these mistakes like they need to know basis top secret

[40:47] yeah but she has it now like she keeps treating it like it's a normal moon and it's a it's a

[40:52] spaceship moon it's a hollow spaceship moon it's also it's a space ark moon also there's there's i

[40:57] mean there's so much it's it's a dumb movie dan everything related to being a dumb movie the fact

[41:02] that the director of nasa goes here you always wanted my job now you've got it and he hands her

[41:06] his identification card and later she's in a secret confidential military archive and they're

[41:11] like how did you get here and she goes the director of nasa gave me his key card it's like oh so i

[41:15] guess that card opens up every door in america like yeah it's what is this like hit like a hit

[41:21] man level where all you gotta do is take somebody's clothes and all of a sudden you can do anything

[41:25] they do man hitman rules okay so uh harper and houseman are just like i can't except i can't get

[41:31] behind the idea of entertainment based around hitman but continue yeah uh i feel like i feel

[41:36] like if you spent 24 hours with agent 47 you would change your mind um but maybe i do like the idea

[41:42] i would say like the idea of putting on people's clothes and being able to do what they do but that

[41:46] literally is the plot of the cobbler a movie i did not care for that's true um okay so harper and

[41:52] houseman are just taking a nap together in the upper floors of this hotel when uh some government

[41:57] uh helicopters show up and they airlift them out of there uh and fowler offers harper his old job

[42:05] back to which he responds i got a lot of my own i got a lot of my own problems down here

[42:11] it is so funny it's so funny that he's like he's like i got bigger fish to fry than the moon

[42:19] it is it's it is taking the idea of like the reluctant kind of badass hero to a ludicrous

[42:25] degree where it's like you have nothing in your life the movie has established that from point one

[42:29] that your life is a failure and now nasa is like hey can you come back and do the only thing you

[42:34] like doing which is flying spaceships and do it to save the world and he's like i don't know man

[42:38] i'm a busy guy like it's yeah this is this also when they bring when they take the endeavor out

[42:45] of the the california science center yeah yeah they take the the shuttle out of the museum and

[42:49] the army delivers the uh the emp bomb i will say that i've been to that museum several times it's

[42:55] really cool to see a space shuttle you just walk around it walk underneath it i highly recommend

[42:59] going to the california science center and seeing that spatial endeavor it's really cool okay uh

[43:03] that's a plug for space shuttles uh maybe we get them to i do i want to put right now

[43:08] some gushers i want to take a second and say uh don't combine the two dan you can't have a gusher

[43:13] in zero gravity you could drive no i feel like i feel like when they were doing the style and

[43:17] makeup for patrick wilson in this movie they're like we need to get him looking as much like

[43:22] chris pratt as possible yes yes very much i wouldn't be surprised if this was originally

[43:27] written in the script as a chris pratt type yeah although it's basically mario yeah yeah

[43:34] heavy mustache italian accent plunger you know chris pratt type the i think uh but i have to

[43:39] admit were you guys as excited as i was to see patrick wilson as like the star of a big budget

[43:44] event like i like patrick wilson i like him and it's exciting to see him like in the role that

[43:49] normally tom cruise or chris pratt or uh i don't know uh hemsworth would play or something like

[43:55] that i mean there was a part later on yeah i mean like not later i mean there's just i remember

[44:00] there's a part in the movie where i was looking at patrick wilson and halle berry in a scene

[44:04] together thinking like look i know that people gotta eat they take the jobs that are there

[44:12] that are offered them they like make decisions about like oh maybe this will be like big i

[44:18] understand like it's a career and people you know i think get too down on actors sometimes

[44:25] expecting them to always be doing it for the art when but it's a job it's a job but i was also like

[44:31] oh man patrick wilson and halle berry are like they read this script and we're like yeah okay

[44:37] yeah i mean it was it was something i did there was a moment too where yeah where it's like well

[44:40] that's a lot of wasted talent in this cast yeah halle halle berry patrick wilson michael pania

[44:46] donald sutherland michael pania like uh and although i like similar to i like seeing patrick

[44:51] wilson as like the hero star when i think of him more as like a supporting actor in these types of

[44:55] movies i liked seeing michael pania in the role of like the wealthy stepdad that that the kid that

[45:01] like has his heroic moment and all that like that originally that was stanley tucci that was supposed

[45:06] to be in that part and he seems more like the stereotypical version of that but i loved seeing

[45:10] michael pania in a role that was not like the goofy guy or like the henchman or you know that

[45:16] it was you know i liked seeing him in a situation where i was like oh that's not the role i expect

[45:20] to see michael pania playing yeah so uh but it's a total waste of talent as a uh as a stipulation

[45:28] for him saving the earth uh they get sunny out of jail uh who shows up and immediately throws a fit

[45:36] when he realizes that his dad is going to be going into space uh and then earthquakes start

[45:41] happening surprised as i was that sunny then became a that sunny's subplot became a major

[45:46] subplot of the movie yeah it became huge that the movie thought we cared of what happened to sunny

[45:51] i mean well it's lean that that's the whole section of the movie that leans into the disaster

[45:56] movie element yes yeah like i think that a movie like this needs people on earth that we're gonna

[46:02] follow as earth falls apart and some of it like while if while i don't find that you know sunny

[46:11] and his entourage as interesting as patrick wilson and sunny um michelle the chinese exchange student

[46:18] who is living with halle berry's and halle berry's son jimmy chinese canadian uh she's a an actress

[46:26] i looked her up okay um anything anything i've heard of any songs i've heard

[46:33] probably a lot they seem to mostly be in chinese although she you know moved to canada

[46:39] in her youth i mean it is it is a i mean she is in the movie to give her for the international

[46:45] market for china to okay this movie to be shown in chinese theater like there's no reason for

[46:49] halle berry to have an inner an exchange student living in her house taking care of her her real

[46:55] sometimes real life's messy but they couldn't come up with another way to and they couldn't

[46:59] come up with another way to have a chinese character and later on they're like our chinese

[47:03] friends are lending us an orbiter that we can use it's like and our friends at spacex are going to

[47:08] let us use this thing like the movie is really really loves elon musk and wants to appeal to

[47:14] the chinese audience no but i like as as much as i don't find those characters as compelling as

[47:20] our main true trio like the some of the stuff that happens later on earth is some of the wackiest

[47:28] and what about uh like oh yes very much so by the time they're in they're in a they're in a

[47:32] in a car chase with aspen hillbillies yes

[47:41] in case you're getting bored hearing us talk just just get ready for that

[47:44] because it's not where i expected the movie to go that's for sure okay so uh

[47:49] all of a sudden it seems like this mission they're preparing for is is off they had to cancel it so

[47:54] they send everybody home uh there's there's a problem with the space shuttle and within minutes

[47:59] halle berry gets on the intercom goes everybody go home and everybody just goes home so it leaves

[48:04] only a skeleton crew and then they realize that you know what just they could use this like kind

[48:10] of less powerful uh shuttle thruster thing because of the moon's increased gravity to help suck the

[48:17] shuttle up into the sky when i first saw this in the theater i like started like hitting my like

[48:24] arms of my chair and the chair's like no i hit you i can see where it was headed i'm like oh boy

[48:30] are they going to use the moon's gravity to pull the shuttle the rest of the way oh yeah they do

[48:35] and yep that's what happens okay that's exactly what happens much as this as much as the moon's

[48:39] gravity pulls the top of the chrysler building off it also pulls the space shuttle uh so uh but

[48:47] because it's just a skeleton crew only harper fowler and houseman are going only our three

[48:53] main characters so they do all their tearful goodbyes you know houseman calls his mom and

[48:59] fuzz aldrin uh his cat um you know and we get reintroduced to sunny and michelle and jimmy

[49:08] and uh and halle berry's ex-husband who's a general uh which by the way after charlene

[49:15] pointed this out but i kind of agree meeting meeting those two characters there's no way

[49:20] they would have karaoke at their wedding they do not seem like that the type of people would

[49:24] have karaoke at their wedding no early on she halle berry is she knows the lyrics to africa

[49:29] because she sang it at karaoke at her wedding and you're right there's no i also don't believe

[49:33] these two characters were ever married like it's it's the it's the x-men rules of relationships

[49:38] where it's like well they're the only two black characters in the in the movie so they were

[49:41] probably married at some point you know but okay also this is also um when uh when are you are you

[49:48] going to talk about the shuttle launch not only do they have to use this shuttle that's broken

[49:52] not only is the moon's gravity going to have to get the most away but is there a tsunami

[49:56] heading towards the the launch pad at exactly that

[50:00] Yeah, let me see. Is Dan being squirted with water right then?

[50:04] My notes just say GRAVITY WAVE in all caps.

[50:08] So yeah, there's this massive gravity wave.

[50:12] First, it sucks all the water up from the seabed, leaving the fish just flopping around.

[50:18] Yeah, this is a Red Sea scenario. It's happening, folks.

[50:22] And so like, yeah, there's a lot of water in the air. There's water all over the place.

[50:26] And does Sonny have to out-drive the wave, or am I imagining that?

[50:30] No, of course he does. It's already been established he's a joyrider.

[50:34] So when he's ready for an adventure...

[50:38] That's a special skill.

[50:40] Special skill is driving fast.

[50:42] So first they park the Humvee they're in and watch the gravity wave, because it's dope.

[50:48] And then they're like, oh, shit, and they get in the Humvee, and then they outrun the gravity wave, of course, because he's a great driver.

[50:54] They barely escape.

[50:56] And then the shuttle manages, despite for a moment, we're like, oh, it looks like one of the thrusters is off.

[51:02] The shuttle's just going to crash, and they're all going to die. The movie's over.

[51:06] Nope. The moon helps them the rest of the way, and they're in space, baby.

[51:14] They're in space, baby would have been a good name for this movie.

[51:16] Yeah, they're in space, baby, the movie.

[51:18] And Casey Housman, he cannot stop taking pictures with his phone of everything that's going on.

[51:22] I kind of like the joke when they're staring at him for taking photos with his phone, and he's like, it's on airplane mode.

[51:30] I think that was a good joke.

[51:32] Yeah, that was a funny laugh. That was a funny gag.

[51:34] Okay, so they get that shuttle into the sky. They refuel at a SpaceX depot.

[51:40] They have some laughs about old times and shit.

[51:44] I know there's one part, this is around the part where I couldn't quite understand what was going on.

[51:48] I think where they're like, we've got to jettison our rocket tanks or whatever.

[51:52] And that's what space shuttles do normally, so I couldn't quite figure out what the problem was.

[51:56] I think it was beforehand.

[51:58] Basically, one ran out of fuel, and then the other one was still thrusting, and so they're going off course.

[52:06] So they're like, oh, we've got to jettison the one that's still working to suck us up into space.

[52:10] I hate to backtrack just a little bit, but I have to say that the scene that –

[52:16] Back in 2011.

[52:18] No, just like everyone's gone, which is what leads Patrick Wilson and Halle Berry and Casey to be this ragtag team.

[52:26] They're the ones that are going to go into space.

[52:28] It's just that you can launch a space shuttle with just three people in the shuttle and two guys manning the computers.

[52:34] Yeah, all the other ones are – that's a text dodge.

[52:38] It's so bad for the actor and actress that they – the actor and actress they introduce as the flight – the navigator and the other person because all they get to do is stand there and nod when their name is said, and then they leave, and then they don't get to go on the space shuttle.

[52:50] I'm like, oh, these actors, they probably had to audition for this part where they just stand there, and it looks like they're going to have a part in the movie, and they nod, and they don't get to be in the movie.

[52:57] It's like Bosk, Forlom, Zuckus. They're barely in it.

[53:01] I mean at that point, just go all the way, yeah, and have Bosk and IG-88 standing there.

[53:06] We got to go up there, and we have to do it in 28 minutes exactly so the moon can help us out.

[53:13] Yeah, yeah. I'm sorry.

[53:15] They're convincing Casey like, oh, we got to have you come too because you're super smart, I guess, and you figure things out, and he's being – he's like, oh, I'm anxious.

[53:28] I've got all this stuff, and it seems like the most casual chipper conversation that they're having about this Hail Mary.

[53:38] There's not a lot of urgency.

[53:39] This is a movie where at various points they're like, if we don't leave in 20 minutes or later on, if we don't set off this bomb in two seconds, then we're going to be killed by nanobots, and they have a conversation about it, and it's like there's just no sense of urgency ever.

[53:53] Again, it's a dumb movie, but it's like – it's the kind of movie where somebody, instead of just setting off the weapon that's going to save the day, they have to give a speech first about how nobody ever believed in them, and it's like just do it, dude.

[54:04] You're talking to nobody.

[54:05] Just make it happen.

[54:07] But you're right.

[54:08] They do take a long time convincing this guy whose dream throughout his entire life has been to go into space.

[54:13] They have to spend a while convincing him that he should go into space with them.

[54:18] And they're wearing old Apollo era spacesuits because they can't have electronics on them if they can help it because they figure – is this one – have they already figured out that it seems like the swarm goes after electronics that have people inside them?

[54:32] Well, they know that it goes after electronics at this point.

[54:35] I think later on they figure out like, oh, it has to have people inside them, although I'm not really sure how they figure that out because they stop the nanobot swarm, as we'll see later on, by breaking the electronics.

[54:49] So I don't know why they make the leap to like, oh, also people have to be involved, but whatever.

[54:55] Yeah, I don't know.

[54:56] As you've said many times, it's a dumb movie.

[54:58] It's a dumb movie.

[54:59] So while they're refueling back on Earth, Sonny, Michelle and Jimmy get carjacked by, as we mentioned before, some Coloradan looters.

[55:08] Everybody's going to Colorado because it's far from the ocean, right?

[55:13] Like it's high up and it's far from the ocean.

[55:15] So if the oceans rise, then they'll be safe I guess at Rocky Mountain High.

[55:19] People are going there for weed.

[55:21] And they want to go see Hallie's parents.

[55:23] Yep.

[55:24] And yeah, this is – and the looters, this is the like kind of – at first when they show up, I'm like, oh, great.

[55:29] These are characters I'm never going to see again.

[55:31] How wrong I was.

[55:33] We'll see them again later.

[55:35] Okay.

[55:37] So they're now on foot.

[55:39] They lose their satellite phone that would allow them to call Jimmy's dad who's in a top secret bunker.

[55:47] So they just go all the way to Aspen and they – or do they find the survivor camp first before getting to Aspen?

[55:54] I don't remember.

[55:55] Yeah.

[55:56] Well, eventually they find – they find where Michael Pena and Sonny's half siblings are and his mom.

[56:02] And now they're all on foot.

[56:04] They've got to – and they have to get – yeah, they have to get to the military base or like a tunnel, a concrete tunnel.

[56:11] It's like – I don't remember when they know that there's possible nuke stuff.

[56:16] And oxygen is being pulled out of the earth's atmosphere and it's a whole mission.

[56:21] Yeah, and the moon is kind of – the moon is getting close enough.

[56:24] It's starting to break apart.

[56:25] Chunks of it are landing all over creation.

[56:30] It's funny.

[56:31] The chunks of the moon are falling all over the place even though the moon can only be over one part of the earth at a time, right?

[56:37] Like it's not like the chunks are going to circle around the back of the earth I guess.

[56:40] I mean it's also funny that like the moon is – as it gets closer to the earth, it's circling faster around the earth like that it has a shorter distance to travel.

[56:51] And later on there's a part where there's all this chaos going on because the moon has – is rising.

[56:58] Like someone – like a character is like, oh, the moon is rising.

[57:00] And I thought it was so funny that it stops immediately as soon as the moon like I guess like turns around the other side of the earth.

[57:06] I'm like I guess but it also just seems to like go back to normal so quickly.

[57:13] It's just such a weird – anyway.

[57:15] It's a weird movie where there's – gravity doesn't exist anymore and oxygen is disappearing until the movie needs the characters to like have a conversation or walk somewhere and then things are finding it.

[57:25] I mean there's a lot of science that – as I read on the IMDb trivia, it's one of the trivia points was just they researched what would happen if the moon actually fell onto slash into the earth.

[57:35] So I guess that explains it that they did their homework.

[57:37] Another trivia – and I don't know what this is based on.

[57:41] It says they had a real astronaut on set during production as an advisor and on occasion he would approach Roland Emmerich and say, hey, guys.

[57:47] I mean that's not really possible.

[57:48] They told him to roll with it as it's just a movie.

[57:50] So I don't know whether they did the research or not.

[57:52] That's a classic Roland Emmerich phrase too.

[57:54] He's like, hey, we roll with it, baby.

[57:57] It's me.

[57:58] They're in space, baby.

[58:00] Roll with it, Roland.

[58:03] They had an astronaut on set and occasionally his head would explode.

[58:08] Okay.

[58:11] I also admit I was watching this movie and about the time they finally got into space, I was like, okay, great.

[58:16] The movie is going to be over soon, and I looked and saw there were 50 minutes left, and I was like, what?

[58:20] It's two hours and ten minutes long.

[58:22] Speaking of space.

[58:23] But it's got like nine or ten minutes of credits.

[58:25] Harper tries to pilot a lander, and he leaves like a little rover vehicle with the EMP above the moon hole.

[58:35] It's kind of like bait hoping to lure out the swarm.

[58:39] The swarm comes out of the hole, ignores the bait, and begins to attack their shuttle, but they destroy all their electronic devices.

[58:47] Maybe that's when they realize it has to have a person inside it.

[58:50] The weird thing is he made it seem like he destroyed the detonator for the bomb, but then later on it works fine.

[58:56] Later on it just has kind of a correct.

[58:58] Yeah.

[58:59] It did look like he destroyed the detonator, but the problem was really the iPhone, which they destroy also.

[59:03] You're right.

[59:04] And Casey Aspin was like, you could have just turned it off, and it's like, well, then you turn it off, dude.

[59:09] You're just fumbling with it too long.

[59:11] Yeah.

[59:12] You just lost phone privileges, buddy.

[59:14] Okay.

[59:15] So in Aspin, yep, as we said, they meet up with the whole family.

[59:19] They decide to go to a fire station to get supplies, including some oxygen.

[59:22] That's when they get ambushed by those same looters.

[59:25] Yep.

[59:26] They've been following them.

[59:27] They turn the tables on them, and they steal the looter stuff.

[59:30] But then while they're driving through the streets of Aspin, we have a high-speed, low-gravity car chase where they're shooting at the looters.

[59:43] Things are getting sucked up into the sky.

[59:45] It's bonkers.

[59:47] There's like a huge ship comes by in a train and is knocking cars off.

[59:51] This is when I realized that in this movie, the moon is just the biggest Katamari Damacy because everything just gets stuck to it, random shit just gets stuck to it.

[1:00:00] falls off of it again.

[1:00:01] Yeah.

[1:00:02] I mean, yeah, it's working like, I don't know, like there's a, the moon is less the moon

[1:00:05] and more like a big vacuum cleaner that's sucking things up.

[1:00:08] Yeah.

[1:00:09] And no matter where you are in the world, there's always a ship nearby.

[1:00:11] Even Colorado, you think as far as you can get from the ocean, that's why everyone's

[1:00:15] leaving there.

[1:00:16] Lousy ships.

[1:00:17] There's just ships falling down, you know?

[1:00:18] And I love this because this is, uh, you know, like they're shooting back and forth, like,

[1:00:23] like Michael Peña, like has a gun.

[1:00:25] This shows, this shows that this is a message I didn't like.

[1:00:29] Like Michael Peña is sort of like the nicer guy who's not tough, but like, you know, he

[1:00:35] shows he's a real man by shooting at these.

[1:00:38] Yeah.

[1:00:39] He's the soft, he's the soft stepdad.

[1:00:40] Yeah.

[1:00:41] He's not as, and, uh, yeah, but, but he, but he makes his bones by shooting back at these

[1:00:45] guys and then eventually, you know, being self-sacrificing, but the idea that Sonny

[1:00:50] who is like, that he's great with a gun and great with in car chases, like it, it was

[1:00:55] ridiculous.

[1:00:56] He, Sonny like continues to accelerate because I guess he has to have the momentum so he

[1:01:02] doesn't get sucked up in the air and he's outrunning the gravity of the moon.

[1:01:06] And this is one of many scenes where I just yelled at the screen, punch it.

[1:01:10] Yeah.

[1:01:11] And it's also, it's also one of those things where it's like, hold on, I'm about to go

[1:01:15] even faster.

[1:01:16] And it's like, why were you not going that fast?

[1:01:18] You're rushing from people who are shooting at you and the moon is going to crash into

[1:01:21] you.

[1:01:22] Go as fast as you can.

[1:01:23] And you have to wait for the perfect moment to do the nitro, uh, what is he holding back

[1:01:28] for?

[1:01:29] What does he think?

[1:01:30] This is the mat.

[1:01:31] He's got to do it again.

[1:01:32] Later.

[1:01:33] The road, is it literally being sucked up into the, into the air and he punches it and

[1:01:36] he, you know, uh, he moon hops with the car over these floating pieces of road.

[1:01:43] Yeah.

[1:01:44] Like it's Mario brothers.

[1:01:45] Yeah.

[1:01:46] And I got to say, you got to use, you use the mushroom.

[1:01:48] You'll get more, you'll hit more mystery box later on.

[1:01:51] This movie is like too gray in a lot of ways in the way that a lot of like, uh, yeah, visually

[1:01:59] a lot of CGI heavy movies are, but I got to say that as like fake and dumb as a lot of

[1:02:07] it is, it also, some of these scenes on earth I found like strangely beautiful because it

[1:02:12] is just such surreal imagery of the moon being that close to earth and stuff floating up

[1:02:19] into the air.

[1:02:20] Yeah.

[1:02:21] Right.

[1:02:22] It's one of those times when the most mainstream entertainment inadvertently becomes strange

[1:02:26] or bizarre in the way it like in that it's, it's followed this dumb path to a point where,

[1:02:32] yeah, you have a car that is, that is hopping across floating, floating rocks, like something

[1:02:37] on a seventies fantasy novel cover and the moon is enormous and it's colorful and there's

[1:02:43] ships and trains and things flying by and a hillbilly in a car that can't make as fast

[1:02:47] a jump slams into this flying stone and explodes and you're like, yeah, it's like, how did

[1:02:52] this movie get so strange?

[1:02:53] It gets so weird.

[1:02:54] Yeah.

[1:02:55] Uh, and it only gets sillier.

[1:02:58] It's going to get weirder.

[1:03:00] So they take the, uh, they take the lander right into that moon hole and they find out

[1:03:05] that, Hey, it is a mega structure.

[1:03:08] Uh, so it's all like, uh, you know, like it's like a giant spaceship inside.

[1:03:13] Um, and at the center are like, uh, like the revolution studios logo, a lot of revolving

[1:03:20] rings.

[1:03:21] Um, and, uh, on some of those rings, there's like, uh, like, uh, crops and stuff planted,

[1:03:28] right?

[1:03:29] Something like that.

[1:03:30] Cause it's a big, basically there's, there's like a, it's like ring world.

[1:03:32] It's like Larry Niven's ring world.

[1:03:34] It's kind of like, uh, it's kind of like, uh, the Simon Roy comic habitat, which is

[1:03:38] great and you should read is better than this.

[1:03:41] And at the center of course, is that aforementioned white dwarf star just small enough to fit

[1:03:47] inside a moon.

[1:03:48] Yeah.

[1:03:49] Yeah.

[1:03:50] And apparently not too hot for them to just fly by.

[1:03:52] Like you'd think, you think the energy of a star would instantly destroy them, but that's

[1:03:57] true.

[1:03:58] They do fine.

[1:03:59] They just cruise by it.

[1:04:00] Um, and the swarm is smothering the star.

[1:04:04] It's like soaking up the energy and that's, what's causing it to, uh, causing the moon

[1:04:09] to hit the earth.

[1:04:10] Um, so they, uh, they, the swarm starts to chase them and they barely escaped through

[1:04:17] a, like a door and then the door closes and they, they crash in, in a chamber of this

[1:04:23] weird alien structure and it seems like they die.

[1:04:26] Yeah.

[1:04:27] Cause the, the whole integrity breaches and you know, the oxygen goes out.

[1:04:33] Uh, we, we come, we, you know, we go back to earth and we find out like birds are dying

[1:04:37] because oxygen is running out.

[1:04:38] The atmosphere is being sucked up into space.

[1:04:39] Yeah.

[1:04:40] At that point I'm like, well, game over, man.

[1:04:41] Why aren't the birds just getting sucked up into space too?

[1:04:42] Yeah.

[1:04:43] That's the whole thing.

[1:04:44] Yeah.

[1:04:45] Why did they fall down?

[1:04:46] You're right.

[1:04:47] Yeah.

[1:04:48] The what?

[1:04:49] Hollow bones.

[1:04:50] If birds are high enough up that they're dying from the atmosphere being sucked away, shouldn't

[1:04:51] the birds also be sucked away?

[1:04:52] I mean, birds have had a long deal, uh, that gravity doesn't apply to them.

[1:04:53] Oh, right, right, right.

[1:04:54] Yeah.

[1:04:55] Well, they, they signed, they signed a deal with the devil and that, and that deal was

[1:04:56] signed with the devil.

[1:04:57] Oh yeah.

[1:04:58] Only earth gravity.

[1:04:59] Apparently.

[1:05:00] Yep.

[1:05:01] Is this around the time when, when they start talking about how they need to hit the moon

[1:05:02] with a nuclear weapon?

[1:05:03] Like, I mean, they've been, yeah, I mean, that's been, that's been implied the whole

[1:05:04] day.

[1:05:05] Like Mr. Show told us.

[1:05:06] And it's really funny cause they're like, we got to wait till the moon is close enough

[1:05:07] that we can hit it with the weapons.

[1:05:08] Like, yeah, you're right.

[1:05:09] I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

[1:05:40] yeah, you're right.

[1:05:41] It's like in the movies where they're like, we're going to blow up the moon in like two

[1:05:42] hours, because they're going to take off.

[1:05:43] They're going to blow up the moon with nuclear weapons.

[1:05:44] They're going to blow up the moon with aliens.

[1:05:45] There's a part later where Halle Berry is like in two hours, they're going to blow up

[1:05:46] the moon with a nuclear weapon.

[1:05:47] So we got to save everybody.

[1:05:48] Well, how are you going to tell them that you saved them?

[1:05:49] Like, even if you do it, how are you going to get that information back to earth in time?

[1:05:52] You know?

[1:05:53] Yeah.

[1:05:54] Wi-Fi.

[1:05:55] Um, so, uh, we find out that case.

[1:05:56] He's phone.

[1:05:57] Yeah.

[1:05:58] So we're inside the moon.

[1:05:59] The moon probably is wifi because we learned that the moon has oxygen and gravity.

[1:06:04] That's right.

[1:06:05] Um, and this is, this is the moment where, uh, the Halle Berry and Casey, they wake up

[1:06:10] in the spaceship, uh, and Harper is not there.

[1:06:13] And how he goes, there's oxygen.

[1:06:14] And Casey goes, smells weird.

[1:06:17] There's gravity.

[1:06:19] And I was like, wait, did you just smell the gravity?

[1:06:21] Is that what happened?

[1:06:23] Yeah.

[1:06:24] Yeah.

[1:06:25] Um, so yeah, Harper's missing.

[1:06:27] So they start walking around.

[1:06:29] They find that they're in this big alien structure.

[1:06:31] Um, and, uh, they, they immediately reason that for some reason, the, the alien intelligence

[1:06:39] that built the structure they're in is different than the alien intelligence of the nanobots

[1:06:44] swarm that is chasing them.

[1:06:45] Yeah.

[1:06:46] There are two opposing forces.

[1:06:48] Uh, meanwhile, Brian goes on a mind quest where a construct of his young son explains

[1:06:52] the hidden history of the human race.

[1:06:54] Yeah.

[1:06:55] And I don't look, we'll get into the hidden history of the human race in just a second,

[1:06:59] but I don't want to, you know, shit on a kid's performance too much.

[1:07:03] He's a child.

[1:07:04] He can't, but I do think he's expecting it to go in this direction.

[1:07:07] Well, I do think it was a problem to give so much exposition to a kid who can't really

[1:07:14] deliver it well.

[1:07:15] And he's also trying to deliver it in a very like portentous, like dramatic way when I

[1:07:20] think like the, both for logical reasons and for the kids skills, the better way to go

[1:07:27] would have been been like, just do this pretty affect list.

[1:07:30] Like you're a, you're a robot, you're a, you're an AI.

[1:07:33] Oh, they should.

[1:07:34] I mean, they should have just got Haley Joel awesome to come in and bang it out.

[1:07:37] Yeah.

[1:07:38] Yeah.

[1:07:39] I mean, he's not a kid anymore, but he's a grown up.

[1:07:40] He's a grown man.

[1:07:41] I'm going to, I'm not going to go dance rock.

[1:07:44] I'm not going to blame the kid for this, for this performance or this moment.

[1:07:47] I think it is what I like about this and what I don't like about this are the same thing,

[1:07:51] which is that the movie at this point is almost over and this is when they've decided to drop

[1:07:55] a huge exposition scene about the history of the human race for thousands of years.

[1:08:00] And it is not interesting or surprising enough that it feels like a twist or a shock or something

[1:08:05] that the movie has been building towards.

[1:08:07] It's literally like the movie was like, uh, what are we doing?

[1:08:10] What are we doing?

[1:08:11] What are we doing?

[1:08:12] I'll just make up some stuff.

[1:08:13] And it's aliens for like, yeah, it explains this ancient aliens bullshit in the way to

[1:08:18] make it as clear to the dumbest people watching.

[1:08:22] Yeah.

[1:08:23] So Stuart, tell us the hidden history of humanity.

[1:08:25] HHH.

[1:08:26] Yeah.

[1:08:27] So, uh, that's what the trip, the rest of the triple H was all about.

[1:08:33] Humans were once a galaxy, galaxy spanning utopia, but they were undone by an AI that

[1:08:37] they developed and that AI manifested as these nanobots swarms.

[1:08:42] Uh, their last attempt to say their race involved making a mega moon, uh, built around a white

[1:08:47] dwarf star.

[1:08:48] They were planning on making many of these, uh, but the AI attacked them.

[1:08:52] So they were only able to launch a single moon, uh, that was meant to find an ideal

[1:08:57] world and seed it with DNA a la Prometheus baby, except whereas Prometheus did it super

[1:09:04] cool with like a weird giant drinking garbage and then melting into the planet, dissolving

[1:09:09] into the humanity.

[1:09:10] Yeah.

[1:09:11] Uh, guys, guys, you know, remember when Prometheus came out and people shit on it?

[1:09:16] Yeah.

[1:09:17] That was so stupid.

[1:09:18] It's great.

[1:09:19] It's a fun movie.

[1:09:20] It has its issues, but it's a super fun movie and it's like, well, and that's one also where

[1:09:25] maybe it's just because of that prologue, but when, when, when they wake up that engineer

[1:09:29] alien and or whatever they're called and he sees humanity and he hates it, it means so

[1:09:36] much.

[1:09:37] I love it.

[1:09:38] I made this garbage.

[1:09:39] Like you're my crap kids.

[1:09:40] Forget it.

[1:09:41] Like he's so angry about it and the, uh, and there's this moment of realization where you're

[1:09:44] like, what if, like, what if you found God and God was disappointed in his creations

[1:09:49] and then we then watch that guy getting a wrestling sex match with another alien.

[1:09:55] And then his belly rips open and a xenomorph comes out like, like, like.

[1:10:00] God is mad at us, he's chasing us.

[1:10:02] An octopus monster is now gonna eat him

[1:10:04] and impregnate him.

[1:10:05] Yeah, time to attack and dethrone him.

[1:10:07] Yeah, it's all like, oh, what a movie.

[1:10:10] I thought this when I saw the movie in the theaters

[1:10:11] and I still think it.

[1:10:12] Any movie where a lady uses a robot surgery machine

[1:10:16] to give herself a cesarean section

[1:10:18] and pulls out a little squid baby,

[1:10:20] I'm gonna like that movie.

[1:10:21] I'm sorry, even if it's just for that one moment, you know.

[1:10:23] But this is a, yeah, and also the idea of that like,

[1:10:27] this alien intelligence is using the image

[1:10:30] of a family member to communicate with Harper,

[1:10:33] like that's stolen from contact.

[1:10:34] Like this is not, there's nothing,

[1:10:36] for as crazy and silly and dumb as this is,

[1:10:39] there's nothing original about it.

[1:10:40] So maybe that's it.

[1:10:41] It feels like you've just injected these,

[1:10:44] this bonkers moment into your movie,

[1:10:45] but it's not that, you're not giving me anything.

[1:10:48] This movie has been full of new dumb

[1:10:49] and this is a, mostly, this is an old dumb, yeah.

[1:10:53] Can I say like the pettiest thing

[1:10:55] that bothered me in this sequence?

[1:10:58] You just criticized the performance of a child.

[1:11:00] So go ahead, if you can get more petty than that, go for it.

[1:11:02] Well, the child explains the nanobot thing,

[1:11:05] which is hilariously visually realized

[1:11:09] by another kid waking up this utopian

[1:11:13] seeing these swarms of nanobots inside

[1:11:15] what I guess is her alarm clock.

[1:11:18] Yeah, some kind of glass pyramid alarm clock.

[1:11:20] Yeah, and the narration goes,

[1:11:24] the AI suddenly became self-aware.

[1:11:28] And I'm like, number one, I'm like,

[1:11:31] way to gloss over things.

[1:11:33] But number two, just as a writing thing,

[1:11:36] writer of Moonfall, you don't have to say

[1:11:38] suddenly became self-aware.

[1:11:39] You can just say it became self-aware.

[1:11:41] It's gonna be suddenly no matter what.

[1:11:44] Like, that's always good, it's just suddenly.

[1:11:46] It's not suddenly, it happens.

[1:11:49] Oh, and I thought you were gonna say

[1:11:50] if the definition of AI is self-aware.

[1:11:53] If it's true artificial intelligence, it is self-aware.

[1:11:56] So the idea that it suddenly became self-aware,

[1:11:59] what was it before then?

[1:12:02] But anyway, it's a kid explaining it.

[1:12:04] So let's just say it's an ancient computer filtering

[1:12:07] through a child that doesn't know how to explain things.

[1:12:09] So they realize that the aliens that built the mega moon

[1:12:12] were not aliens at all, it was humans.

[1:12:14] And they have been drafted in defeating the swarm

[1:12:17] that is currently attacking their moon.

[1:12:20] And specifically what the swarm is trying to do

[1:12:23] is it could just go and destroy Earth,

[1:12:25] but more importantly, it also needs to destroy the moon

[1:12:28] so that humans can't spread anymore.

[1:12:32] Honestly, looking at what humans have done to the Earth,

[1:12:34] the AI might have a point.

[1:12:36] It may be good to stop it.

[1:12:37] That's the argument in a lot of these things

[1:12:39] where if it's like, oh, we need to save humanity,

[1:12:41] I'm like, eh.

[1:12:44] On like a galactic scale?

[1:12:46] Yeah, but in this case, like the Earth.

[1:12:47] I get why the people would want that,

[1:12:49] but every other living thing on Earth is like,

[1:12:51] hold on, let's hear them out.

[1:12:53] But there was no life on Earth

[1:12:55] before these aliens showed up and terraformed, so.

[1:12:59] We don't know that, Dan.

[1:13:00] All we know is that they sprinkled human DNA

[1:13:03] all over the place.

[1:13:04] I don't know that they,

[1:13:05] I don't think they terraformed the planet.

[1:13:06] I think they just,

[1:13:07] because they were looking for a planet

[1:13:08] that was good for human life.

[1:13:10] I think right now there could be a chipmunk utopia,

[1:13:14] but the humans are around screwing it up gently.

[1:13:17] Basically-

[1:13:17] Chipmunks just hanging out, wearing shirts,

[1:13:19] no pants at all.

[1:13:20] Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers, that's what it is.

[1:13:22] It's just Rescue Rangers.

[1:13:23] Yeah, but humans are the ultimate intergalactic gentrifiers,

[1:13:27] is basically what it is.

[1:13:28] Is that we found a virgin planet,

[1:13:30] and we were like,

[1:13:31] this looks like a good place to set up our junk,

[1:13:33] and then we opened the world-destroying equivalent

[1:13:37] of like coffee places and things like that,

[1:13:39] and you know, expensive vintage stores.

[1:13:41] Okay, so the moon fixes their shuttle,

[1:13:46] makes it even better than before,

[1:13:48] and soups up their cool EMP bomb.

[1:13:50] I think we're going to have a fight on our hands.

[1:13:53] They're like, I think we just got an upgrade,

[1:13:54] but it was disappointing,

[1:13:55] because you see all these alien spaceships around.

[1:13:57] I thought they were going to have to fly one of those.

[1:13:59] Yeah, I was expecting that.

[1:14:00] No, no thanks.

[1:14:01] And then they're going to go,

[1:14:02] I got to get me one of these.

[1:14:04] And now that's what I call pod racing, yeah.

[1:14:07] So, I'm loving it.

[1:14:10] That was such a great album,

[1:14:11] and that's what I call pod racing volume three.

[1:14:15] People cheering.

[1:14:16] So, back on Earth,

[1:14:19] our family is trying to make their way through a hash.

[1:14:24] The human family, you mean.

[1:14:24] Yeah.

[1:14:25] Our family of humanity, yeah.

[1:14:26] Yep, they're trying to make their way

[1:14:27] through an ash-strewn highway to a tunnel,

[1:14:32] but Tom has to give up his mask

[1:14:35] so his daughter will have oxygen,

[1:14:36] sacrificing himself, proving himself to be a good dad.

[1:14:41] Yeah.

[1:14:42] I mean, honestly, it seems like they could have shared

[1:14:44] the oxygen tank, you know,

[1:14:47] just like do the old scuba diver back and forth trick.

[1:14:51] I don't know.

[1:14:51] Yeah, I mean.

[1:14:52] You affix your mask first

[1:14:54] before you affix your neighbor's mask.

[1:14:56] Yeah, I mean, what they had to do was

[1:15:00] they had to redeem Tom Pena for.

[1:15:03] Or Tom Pena.

[1:15:04] Tom Pena.

[1:15:05] No, I like Tom Pena.

[1:15:06] They had to redeem Tom Pena, author of Common Sense.

[1:15:10] Tom Pena sounds like the owner of multiple car dealerships.

[1:15:13] Yeah, it does, that's true.

[1:15:14] They had to redeem Michael Pena's character

[1:15:16] for being not Patrick Wilson,

[1:15:18] even though he was, by all accounts,

[1:15:20] it seems in the movie, a much better dad.

[1:15:21] Yeah.

[1:15:22] And there's a part where they're like,

[1:15:23] he's like, we gotta take the girls to Aspen.

[1:15:26] And they're like, what about Sonny?

[1:15:27] And it's like, yeah, you're right.

[1:15:29] I'll let the rest of the kids in the family die

[1:15:31] because Sonny's in jail right now.

[1:15:32] Like, forget it.

[1:15:33] Like, anyway, they treat that like it's a huge sin

[1:15:35] that he left Sonny in jail while he's getting

[1:15:38] the other kids to a safe place.

[1:15:39] Why didn't you break Sonny out?

[1:15:40] I don't know.

[1:15:42] But anyway, he's a hero.

[1:15:44] He dies a hero saving his daughter.

[1:15:45] And he has a-

[1:15:46] Every parent's dream.

[1:15:48] And when he dies, he has a look on his face

[1:15:50] of just like complete terror or like shock.

[1:15:53] He doesn't die with a smile on his face.

[1:15:55] And I like that touch.

[1:15:56] He doesn't die with a sense of pride.

[1:15:58] He dies with a sense of like, oh no, I'm dying now,

[1:16:00] which is what death is.

[1:16:01] It's scary.

[1:16:02] Yeah, what have I done?

[1:16:03] Okay.

[1:16:05] I could have kept that oxygen.

[1:16:06] What have I done?

[1:16:07] Down in the top secret military bunker,

[1:16:09] they're like, okay.

[1:16:10] His last thought was, wait, I have two daughters,

[1:16:13] and then he died.

[1:16:14] Yeah, yeah.

[1:16:16] Down in the top secret military bunker,

[1:16:18] they're like, let's nuke this fucking moon.

[1:16:20] And Joe's ex-husband is like, uh-uh-uh,

[1:16:22] pulls out a pistol and takes the key.

[1:16:24] And he's like-

[1:16:25] He says, my wife is on that moon.

[1:16:26] My ex-wife is on that moon.

[1:16:28] Yeah.

[1:16:31] I don't know how, but she's gonna save us.

[1:16:32] Yeah, yeah.

[1:16:33] What a dumb, what a dumb movie.

[1:16:35] He was like, she's never let me down in the past.

[1:16:37] I'm like, I mean, I feel like she must have at some point.

[1:16:40] I mean, you're not married anymore.

[1:16:43] It takes two, you know?

[1:16:44] It seems like he was probably the one

[1:16:45] who let her down, ultimately.

[1:16:46] Let's not, you know, we don't know what happened.

[1:16:48] For a relationship to fall apart, it takes two people, Elliot.

[1:16:51] I think that's-

[1:16:52] I don't know about that.

[1:16:52] I've seen a bunch of relationships

[1:16:53] that fell apart with just one.

[1:16:54] But anyway, point taken, point taken.

[1:16:56] It's communication is the issue.

[1:16:57] That's what I'm trying to say.

[1:16:58] Okay, so in the vetting process, somebody made a mistake.

[1:17:02] She's never let me down,

[1:17:04] except for the time she sang Africa by Toto at her wedding.

[1:17:07] Yeah.

[1:17:08] And I just couldn't let go of it,

[1:17:08] and ultimately it led to our divorce.

[1:17:10] Yeah, that makes sense.

[1:17:12] Okay, so back on the moon,

[1:17:15] Brian decides to sacrifice himself to blow up the swarm.

[1:17:19] But KC's like, I'm gonna sacrifice myself instead

[1:17:23] because I have less to live for.

[1:17:24] So he locks himself in the little thing,

[1:17:27] and they drop him behind.

[1:17:30] Sonny gets trapped under a tree back on Earth.

[1:17:34] KC triggers the bomb, killing the swarm.

[1:17:38] They escape, and luckily the moon is like right there.

[1:17:42] So they don't have very far to fly.

[1:17:43] They're back on Earth in like seconds.

[1:17:45] The moon starts to return to orbit.

[1:17:48] The moon's gravity lifts the tree off of Sonny.

[1:17:52] Yeah, this is the point where I'm like,

[1:17:54] like early in the movie, I was like, ha, ha, ha.

[1:17:57] How silly.

[1:17:58] They're using the moon's gravity

[1:18:01] to shoot the rocket up there.

[1:18:03] But now they've reached a point

[1:18:04] where it's literally just like helping people

[1:18:07] lift trees off of other people, it's so close.

[1:18:10] I mean, it sounds like we should

[1:18:12] just pull the moon closer anyway.

[1:18:14] Yeah, it'll be lighter.

[1:18:15] Why is it that the gravity of the moon

[1:18:17] only affected the tree when the moon was leaving?

[1:18:20] It doesn't, and I kept thinking about the scene

[1:18:23] in the movie Once a Great Notion

[1:18:25] where a different character gets,

[1:18:27] obviously a different character

[1:18:28] because it's a different movie,

[1:18:28] gets trapped under it.

[1:18:29] Yeah, it's not Sonny, the son of a.

[1:18:31] Gets trapped under a tree underwater,

[1:18:33] like a log falls on him underwater,

[1:18:35] and his brother is trying to save him,

[1:18:36] and he keeps gulping oxygen and then going back underwater

[1:18:40] to deliver it mouth-to-mouth to his brother,

[1:18:41] but his brother is realizing there's no way he can save him.

[1:18:43] There's no way he can go get help in time,

[1:18:45] and it's such a sad scene.

[1:18:47] But anyway, so I was thinking about a much better scene

[1:18:49] from a movie that has its flaws,

[1:18:50] but is like a real movie about people

[1:18:52] as opposed to a movie about when the moon's gravity

[1:18:55] turns on and off to do different things, you know?

[1:18:59] Moon starts to return to orbit, everybody's happy,

[1:19:03] except Casey's dead, or is he?

[1:19:05] Back on the moon, Casey's inside the weird simulation.

[1:19:10] He meets his grandma and Flux.

[1:19:11] No, his mom.

[1:19:13] His mom, I'm sorry.

[1:19:14] She looks like she should be a grandma,

[1:19:16] but Casey couldn't help her with that.

[1:19:18] And she's sitting there with Fuzz Aldrin, his cat,

[1:19:23] and she's speaking for the-

[1:19:25] Her grandchild.

[1:19:26] Yeah, the collected intelligence of the human race.

[1:19:29] Her grandbaby, yeah.

[1:19:30] And she explains that they've got work to do.

[1:19:35] Yeah.

[1:19:35] And this was setting up-

[1:19:36] He's part of the moon now.

[1:19:38] They said if the, yeah, his personality was scanned

[1:19:41] and now he's a moon program.

[1:19:43] That they said that if this movie had done well,

[1:19:44] they would have done,

[1:19:45] this was gonna be the first in a trilogy,

[1:19:47] and that the series was gonna get even zanier,

[1:19:50] but I don't think we'll ever know their plans

[1:19:52] because this movie was not a success.

[1:19:55] Yeah.

[1:19:57] Yeah.

[1:19:58] I mean, I was, I mean, I'm assuming-

[1:20:00] Next stage would be like in the anime Gurren Lagann where at first they think they have to

[1:20:04] destroy the moon but it turns out they just have to turn the moon into a giant battleship

[1:20:09] so that they fly the moon battleship after the anti-spiral technology race. It's pretty cool.

[1:20:15] I'll show you the show sometime. Yeah. And also there's a, all our heroes are reunited on a

[1:20:21] mountaintop because there's a convenient helicopter that, like, I was reading that

[1:20:26] they thought it would be too convenient for the astronauts to land close enough to their families

[1:20:31] that they could just meet up that way so instead they had them ride a helicopter over and it's

[1:20:35] still incredibly convenient that the entirety of this global emergency takes place either on the

[1:20:40] moon or Los Angeles or Colorado. Like, those are the only real locations on earth that matter.

[1:20:46] You know, I kind of, I kind of wish with the idea of, like, the moon, you know, going around the

[1:20:53] earth and wreaking havoc, I kind of wish they played up the idea that there's, like, that they

[1:20:58] have to get as much stuff done when the moon isn't close to them. Like, if they had to do, like,

[1:21:04] the cycle of it. I'm, because, again, the way the movie is, is when the moon is nearby everything

[1:21:11] goes up in the air. When the moon is not nearby everything's totes normal. And I wish that they

[1:21:16] had, they had, like, made some effort to, like, play into that. Yeah. So, with, like, yeah,

[1:21:22] we got this much time. The moon's coming. Tie yourself down. Tie yourself to the ground.

[1:21:27] Strap in. Hey. Buckle up, everybody. The moon's passing overhead.

[1:21:33] The moon, moon, moonfall, moonfall. This movie that we watched. Yep. What do we think of it?

[1:21:39] Final Judgment's time. Is it a good bad movie? A bad bad movie? Or a movie we kind of like?

[1:21:45] Guys, I will say, I, you know, I cannot give a totally, I feel like, objective

[1:21:57] review of Moonfall because. Because you wrote it. Because you're one of the credited screenwriters.

[1:22:02] Because the first time I saw it was this 4DX experience with my friends, you know, like,

[1:22:10] we hadn't been out to a movie together in a while because of the world. And I was

[1:22:17] mildly stoned. And I was being tossed around and had it being water squirted at me. And I,

[1:22:24] I laughed my ass off at this film. I had such a great time. It was the most fun, like,

[1:22:30] bad movie experience I'd had, you know, since Cats. It does not compare to Cats, but it was,

[1:22:37] it was a lot of fun. Watching it at home for the second time, you know, I didn't, I didn't have

[1:22:43] that same impact, but I still think that for me, this is a good bad movie. But what do you guys

[1:22:50] think? Yeah, I mean, I think, I think I'll go along with you and say that it's a good bad movie.

[1:22:55] It's, I mean, it's, like Elliot said, it feels like it's written by an algorithm. It is, there's

[1:23:05] nothing, there's no moment of originality in the whole movie. But it's very silly. And if you're

[1:23:11] looking for that, like, kind of like an echo of the like, 90s heyday, disaster, blockbuster,

[1:23:21] sci fi action movies, you're like, your volcanoes, your Independence Days, I think this will give

[1:23:26] you enough of that memory, but also be very dumb. Yeah. Yeah, I think I'm gonna go along with it

[1:23:33] being a good bad movie. There are times when it gets a little, I have to admit, once they get into

[1:23:37] space, it gets a little duller to me. But the, it's, but there's so much, it's so dumb. And it's

[1:23:44] very fun to see how dumb it, so much of it is and how little things make sense and how it's like,

[1:23:50] characters act like the characters in movies act in the parody movies in like, Last Action Hero

[1:23:55] and things like that. Like, it really feels like you've entered Yeah, this this 90s Doomsday

[1:24:00] universe. It feels like a movie that like, it would, it wouldn't be out of place if it was like

[1:24:06] pitched as a parody movie in like a comedy. Like if Yes, they're like, yeah, making fun of Hollywood

[1:24:11] with these dumb movies. Yes, I will say, if you I didn't quite reach the threshold that Geostorm

[1:24:17] has for me, where Geostorm all it's like Geostorm keeps coming up with new things that are done

[1:24:22] from you're like, Okay, okay, so you're not going to show me the first time that humanity comes

[1:24:26] together to save the weather crisis. This is about after the fact. And that but to later to

[1:24:30] the Secretary of Defense trying to use a storm to assassinate the president. It's that's a,

[1:24:37] this movie was not quite as beautifully stupid as that. But it's pretty stupid. You know what?

[1:24:41] Yeah, I mean, Geostorm feel Geostorm feels original and stupid.

[1:24:45] Yeah, yeah, they're really breaking new ground and stupid. But I will say this is a good bad movie.

[1:24:48] If you want to see if you want to watch some dumb junk, then you could you could do worse.

[1:24:53] Put that on the poster. I think the beauty of both of those like Geostorm in this movie is like

[1:24:58] we are entering the Baroque period of the of the disaster movie where all of the simpler disasters

[1:25:06] have been done. So people need to think of very weird. But the idea that people at one point could

[1:25:13] be could be entertained by something as quaint as a volcano. And now Yeah, now we need the

[1:25:19] stimulation that could come with the moon crashing or back or back in the 70s when it's

[1:25:23] just like, oh, no, a boat turned upside down. There's a building on fire. Yeah.

[1:25:31] Yeah. I mean, for an adventure, that's a pretty straightforward. Yeah.

[1:25:37] Hey, what is it? And what do you think the future is going to be? Is it going to be like,

[1:25:40] we've got to look, we've got to eat this black hole. That's the only way to save the earth.

[1:25:44] Mm hmm. Everyone, grab your forks. Oh, no, they're being sectioned to the black hole.

[1:25:51] Oh, as you're sucked in, keep your mouth open. So you swallow a little bit of it.

[1:25:55] Yeah. You're Kirby now. You're Kirby now.

[1:25:59] Have you heard? Agents, have you heard of the Kirby project?

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[1:30:34] I would say that the business thing

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[1:30:54] Listeners may know that I have another podcast right now.

[1:30:58] Sorry, guys.

[1:30:59] I didn't mean to cheat on you, but it's OK.

[1:31:02] I don't want to go.

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[1:31:04] OK, let's do is it is part of his game

[1:31:07] that he plays a game of love.

[1:31:09] I don't want to break your hearts,

[1:31:10] but this is a podcast from I Heart Radio.

[1:31:12] It's called The Who Was Podcast, and it's for kids.

[1:31:15] This podcast we do now, The Flophouse,

[1:31:17] very much not for children.

[1:31:18] And you should not let your children listen to it.

[1:31:20] So if your children are looking for something

[1:31:21] to listen to while you're listening to The Flophouse,

[1:31:23] why not take them over to The Who Was Podcast?

[1:31:25] The Who Was Podcast, Dan, I'll tell you,

[1:31:27] is a quiz show for kids about historical figures.

[1:31:29] And I co-host it with Megan O'Neill,

[1:31:32] a former sketch partner of Dan's.

[1:31:34] Yeah, I want to.

[1:31:35] Yeah, that's why I was I wanted to mention Megan O'Neill.

[1:31:38] Very funny.

[1:31:39] She used to be in a sketch group called Mr.

[1:31:42] White Pants that I was in with my friends Roy Koshi,

[1:31:47] Matt Koff, who writes for The Daily Show now,

[1:31:51] Rob Morrison, who is a great musician and Broadway actor.

[1:31:56] But yeah, I'm glad you could take my

[1:31:59] glad you could take my spot for a thing that exists

[1:32:01] and turn into a spot for your sketch group that doesn't perform anymore.

[1:32:04] I'm more just reminiscing.

[1:32:06] And I'm happy that people seem to like, you know,

[1:32:09] have gone on to do great stuff.

[1:32:11] But so and Megan is a longtime Story Pirates member.

[1:32:14] And so if your kids want to learn about history or just want to have

[1:32:17] a little bit of fun and you hope they pick up a fact or two along the way,

[1:32:21] try The Who Was Podcast.

[1:32:22] It's available wherever you get your podcasts.

[1:32:24] The same just go to podcast places.

[1:32:26] Just go. It's called The Who Was Podcast.

[1:32:28] It's a quiz show.

[1:32:34] Hi, my name is Graham Clark, and I'm one half of the podcast.

[1:32:38] Stop podcasting yourself.

[1:32:40] A show that we've recorded for many, many years.

[1:32:42] And at the moment, instead of being in person, we're recording remotely.

[1:32:47] And you wouldn't even notice you don't even notice the lag.

[1:32:51] That's right, Graham.

[1:32:52] And the great thing about it.

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[1:33:58] when your wife won't stop pretending to be a cat and knocking the clean laundry over.

[1:34:02] Guys, we get letters from listeners.

[1:34:05] Don't tell us that we don't, because that would be a lie.

[1:34:08] And I'm going to prove it.

[1:34:10] Can you prove it with some evidence?

[1:34:11] By reading a couple to you guys.

[1:34:14] I sure got showed.

[1:34:15] Dan really showed me.

[1:34:17] The first question, how does it feel?

[1:34:19] I was hoisted on my own lettard.

[1:34:20] That's a letter petard.

[1:34:21] Oh, what?

[1:34:22] And why?

[1:34:24] So the Unabomber called his bombs?

[1:34:27] I guess so.

[1:34:28] This is from Jill.

[1:34:30] Last name withheld.

[1:34:31] And it goes like this.

[1:34:32] In a recent episode, you talked about the way a double VHS set

[1:34:36] used to indicate a real cinematic experience.

[1:34:39] And I think it was Stuart that mentioned heat as an example.

[1:34:42] Oh, yeah.

[1:34:43] This jogged a memory that I hadn't thought about in a long time.

[1:34:48] Is that Obi-Wan Kenobi?

[1:34:49] Yeah, I was trying to do a kind of a Ben Kenobi.

[1:34:52] Yeah, it was pretty good.

[1:34:52] I mean, my parents were from an older generation,

[1:34:56] generally really prudish about media, trying to shield even the teenage me

[1:35:00] from swearing, violence and a general category they always labeled as smut,

[1:35:05] which ranged from mild sexual innuendo

[1:35:09] a la Golden Girls to outright sex scenes.

[1:35:12] So if my mom like Golden Girls,

[1:35:16] so if my mom brought home a movie rental from the local convenience store

[1:35:21] for me to watch with my friend on sleepovers,

[1:35:23] you would usually depend on it being pretty mild fare.

[1:35:27] So imagine the surprise of my 14 year old self and my friend

[1:35:29] when we popped in the movie.

[1:35:31] My mom had written rented for us a double VHS set of heat.

[1:35:35] It didn't take long to recognize this was a virtual catalog of everything.

[1:35:39] We were not supposed to be watching.

[1:35:40] We giggled through the whole illicit thing, including what I have since heard

[1:35:44] with the longest shootout scene in film history.

[1:35:48] It was so long that we eventually we had to turn in and finish it

[1:35:51] the next morning, which now brought the risk that one of my parents

[1:35:54] would walk into the room and realize the mistake they had made

[1:35:57] and force us to shut it off.

[1:35:58] But by now, we were deeply invested in the lives and careers,

[1:36:02] criminal or otherwise, of Neil McCauley and Vincent Hanna

[1:36:06] and managed to finish it with a sound low and the door closed.

[1:36:10] To this day, I have no idea what possessed my mom to rent this for us,

[1:36:14] nor what movie she thought she was writing.

[1:36:16] But when she was running Manon of the spring,

[1:36:22] it's like a new team.

[1:36:23] But would you bring it?

[1:36:25] Also, not be the best movie for the for what that mom is going for box set.

[1:36:28] It really makes you laugh to think about it again.

[1:36:30] Jill, last name with health.

[1:36:32] I just thought that was a nice story. That's great.

[1:36:34] That's a great story.

[1:36:35] That is a good story.

[1:36:36] I love the idea that they're like, I need something.

[1:36:38] I need something for these kids.

[1:36:39] That's not going to have anything to adult heat.

[1:36:43] Who's the who's the director?

[1:36:44] Michael Mann. OK, so he's human, at least.

[1:36:48] I imagine that she saw body heat.

[1:36:51] It was in the hot section and she saw body heat and she said,

[1:36:54] that sounds too sexy. Just heat.

[1:36:56] OK, that sounds like the body out of this. Yeah.

[1:37:00] Oh, Al Pacino and Robert De Niro.

[1:37:05] Kids love them.

[1:37:06] Do you have this without the body?

[1:37:08] You're in luck. We do. Mm hmm. Yeah.

[1:37:12] Kids love Al Kilmer, Al Pacino and Robert De Niro.

[1:37:16] OK, this one is from Sadie.

[1:37:19] Last name withheld. Who writes Dear Peaches.

[1:37:22] I've been listening to your older episodes of my commute to and from work

[1:37:27] and a conversation during the Ouija episode about unironic

[1:37:31] fans of terrible movies reminded me of a mostly related situation.

[1:37:37] OK, that's what we love. Mostly related. Yeah.

[1:37:40] My dear, great.

[1:37:41] Sometimes I'll just go to the the mostly unrelated

[1:37:44] or mostly related festivals in my town.

[1:37:45] And just it's just great to see what they play.

[1:37:47] You know, my dear, great Uncle John is a quiet man and a gentle soul.

[1:37:52] As long as I can remember.

[1:37:54] Did we fall into an episode of Prairie Home Companion?

[1:37:56] Down at the I can't I can't even remember the thing like I listen to that

[1:38:00] so much when I was a kid, because my my parents listened to it.

[1:38:04] And I can't even remember the enough to make a reference now.

[1:38:07] So long. As long as I can remember, his favorite activities have been fishing

[1:38:14] and two sitting peacefully by a crackling fire.

[1:38:19] I do not think I've heard him talk about movies more than once in my life.

[1:38:22] The only exception being the one where he's like,

[1:38:25] the only exception being his infamous tie to cinematic history,

[1:38:28] having built a fence that ended up in several scenes of the Crucible,

[1:38:32] whether he built it for the set or built it prior to filming

[1:38:36] for non-crucible reasons and just happened to be there is unclear.

[1:38:39] He is a man of few words.

[1:38:42] Cut to two years ago.

[1:38:44] We're at his youngest daughter's wedding.

[1:38:46] For some bizarre reason, whoever made the seating chart

[1:38:48] decided parents of the bride, parents of the groom.

[1:38:51] One lone lesbian second cousin was a normal way to seat people,

[1:38:55] placing my parents and brother on the other side of the weird hipster

[1:38:58] wedding barn without me.

[1:39:01] The father of the groom, apropos of nothing, decided to break the silence

[1:39:04] of five people eating with you ever seen Waterworld?

[1:39:09] You let me know exactly how much he loathed Waterworld.

[1:39:12] I don't remember the details.

[1:39:14] I don't really care about my second cousin's father in law's hot takes on

[1:39:17] Waterworld when he was done.

[1:39:20] My uncle John, this is all I've ever wanted to talk about at a wedding.

[1:39:23] Yeah, I would so love it if someone just turned to me and said,

[1:39:25] hey, you ever seen Waterworld?

[1:39:27] Stranger wants to talk about what's a

[1:39:30] wants to grind their axe on their problems with Waterworld.

[1:39:33] I am there for it. Invite me to that wedding. Yeah.

[1:39:36] When he was done, my uncle John softly said, I like Waterworld.

[1:39:41] Hell yeah. I think the trimaran is neat.

[1:39:45] Is that how it's pronounced?

[1:39:47] I don't know. OK.

[1:39:48] Yeah. So you're the local waterhead.

[1:39:51] That's the that's his boat.

[1:39:53] I don't know. I think so.

[1:39:56] The father of the groom turned to him like Uncle John just voiced.

[1:40:00] controversial obscene opinion he'd ever heard and said what are you some kind of

[1:40:05] idiot yes uncle John wounded went back to eating his tiny fancy cupcake later

[1:40:12] he told me it was a in fact his favorite movie oh poor uncle John I've not seen

[1:40:18] waterworld nor do I intend to but I've decided that for the sake of my uncle

[1:40:22] John I like this terrible movie every time I see something related to it now I

[1:40:26] think of him I even nearly bought him a waterworld model trimaran at a yard

[1:40:31] sale I guess it must be the boat but my mom talked me I don't know how that how

[1:40:36] that made you realize it was a boat model I mean like it could be a model of

[1:40:41] a character named trimaran that's true three eyes mm-hmm I don't think you

[1:40:45] would you refer to it as he's he's three Cheech Marans and one that's why he's

[1:40:50] the trimaran but my mom talked me into just taking a picture of it for him what

[1:40:54] would he do with it that's in quotes apparent thing to say yeah it may be

[1:41:01] people hate getting gifts what would they do with them it may be as terrible

[1:41:05] as the podcast say but knowing it exists and bizarre and bizarrely makes this

[1:41:10] dear old man happy warms my heart so I suppose my question is this are there

[1:41:15] any movies or other media that you don't enjoy or have never seen but you're just

[1:41:20] happy knowing it exists thanks Sadie last name withheld I you know I first

[1:41:28] tell us what you feel about waterworld it's okay it's a little long like I

[1:41:33] don't think it's anywhere near as bad as people say it's like not at all got a

[1:41:37] lot of cool stuff in it I remember liking it as a kid but I also didn't

[1:41:41] have the cool taste I have now yeah adult I like I think we've said some of

[1:41:48] we've said this before but like I like the idea of trauma movies more than I

[1:41:54] like them in reality I like that there's someone out there really keeping the

[1:41:59] spark of just we're gonna put out sorry a bookie man NYPD dumb trash in a very

[1:42:09] like carnival Barker's sideshow like sort of way and that's gonna be our

[1:42:15] business model but I don't particularly enjoy it like none of them are as clever

[1:42:21] or as interesting as I want them to be and I feel that way about a lot like I

[1:42:29] have so many books about dumb exploitation movies that I know are more

[1:42:35] pleasurable for me to read about then actually sit down and watch because a

[1:42:38] lot of them just have like long boring stretches of them well and even even the

[1:42:43] parts that are kind of exciting or interesting to read about when you watch

[1:42:47] them often like it's like it's like I feel that way similarly about a lot of

[1:42:51] the like grindhouse exploitation movies where it's like anytime I've ever tried

[1:42:55] to sit down and watch one of them it makes me uncomfortable like I don't like

[1:42:58] it like it's you know yeah the it's often like the thing we read about like

[1:43:02] the most the like most extreme grindhouse movies ever made and you're

[1:43:06] like that sounds that sounds bizarre but then you try to watch it and it's either

[1:43:09] boring or it's like oh this is this is making me like this is unpleasant yeah

[1:43:14] like this is not sift through a lot of the like outre classics to find one

[1:43:19] that's actually fun to watch yeah so those are good answers what do you look

[1:43:25] like you're thinking hard Elliot I mean I don't really have a movie answer

[1:43:30] although that if I had thought of it that would have been my answer I think

[1:43:33] that I like that people are making kind of strange trash but I don't really want

[1:43:38] to watch it but the I think when I heard this question it was the or other media

[1:43:43] that got to me and I started thinking about the Wu-Tang Clan where I'm not I'm

[1:43:48] not a rap guy I don't really it's just not my kind of music there's nothing

[1:43:50] wrong with it it's just not my taste but there's something about knowing that

[1:43:54] there's this elaborate collective of guys who have had these long careers

[1:43:59] that making rap that is based in this strange amalgamation of like city life

[1:44:05] and martial arts movies and comic books and like their own mythology of alter

[1:44:09] egos and things like that that I like hearing about it and I like knowing it

[1:44:13] exists but I don't really complicated yes I love hearing when it's one thing I

[1:44:18] like hearing people make reference to it and knowing that it's that this that

[1:44:21] this galaxy of people and creators and concepts is out there but I don't want

[1:44:25] to sit down and listen to the music it's just not my taste but I'm glad it's out

[1:44:28] there yeah I mean I feel like especially as I get older I encounter more and more

[1:44:33] media that is not necessarily directed to me and might not fit my taste but I'm

[1:44:37] like you know what I'm glad there's stuff for everybody out there yeah I

[1:44:41] mean when it comes to movies like I've always said that like I've never a huge

[1:44:46] fan of Kevin Smith's movies but he seems like a nice guy and I'm glad he gets to

[1:44:53] like make movies yeah and like it's the same thing with like Wes Anderson like

[1:45:01] I'm not a huge Wes Anderson fan but I'm glad that he's making these like specific

[1:45:07] movies to him that a lot of people love like I'm glad that there is that kind of

[1:45:11] an like that's part of the cinema world yeah and I don't know like a lot of pop

[1:45:17] music isn't my thing but it makes people happy it doesn't seem to be hurting

[1:45:21] anyone it's nice it's nice when there's a feeling that not that one thing is

[1:45:25] something for everybody but that there is something for everybody there are

[1:45:28] things available for everybody and there's no people I feel like there's a

[1:45:32] lot of bemoaning the loss of like a monoculture but it's that's it means

[1:45:37] that not everybody has to pretend like imagine if moonfall was the one movie

[1:45:40] that was coming out yeah and like we all had to go see moonfall and everybody had

[1:45:44] to see it and click everyone from my grandma to me to my mom to my kids had

[1:45:50] to go see moonfall like that's kind of the way movies used to be and it's it's

[1:45:53] nice that it's not that way as much yeah well and look not to get political again

[1:45:58] but I think that a lot of well I mean I think that another bad habit of a lot of

[1:46:06] more toxic dudes is to like think that everything should be for them and yes

[1:46:12] get angry when it's not and not understand why it's not like like you

[1:46:17] know like there's the weird review by that guy of turning red where he's like

[1:46:22] I don't you know like why is this about a Canadian Chinese girl like who who is

[1:46:27] this for and I'm like well number one what a fucking you should be able to

[1:46:31] like part of the beauty of movies is like like Roger Ebert called them empathy

[1:46:37] machines like it's to put yourself in a in a different person and to like

[1:46:42] recognize people's universal humanity but even if it's not for you like that's

[1:46:48] fine too you know like it's for someone else out there who needs that movie well

[1:46:53] that was one one of the things that Roger Ebert was was good at and I have

[1:46:56] my issues with that empathy machine line just because I think it it

[1:47:00] undercuts how dangerous movies can be that movies can also create hatred as

[1:47:04] well but that like the but that one of things Roger Ebert in a lot of his

[1:47:08] reviews as he got older at least when he was younger not so much but as he got

[1:47:11] older he'd be like this isn't what I'm looking for but it does what it's doing

[1:47:15] really well so if you like this kind of thing you're gonna like it you know that

[1:47:18] it didn't have to be his personal taste for him to recognize at least a level of

[1:47:22] quality or that it would it would satisfy a certain audience's appetite

[1:47:27] you know but it's similar like there's been a like a renaissance in the last I

[1:47:32] don't know 10 or 20 years in romance novels and like the both the quality and

[1:47:37] the variety of them and like I don't want to read romance novels but I'm glad

[1:47:39] they're out there and I'm glad that people who do like reading romance

[1:47:42] novels have like a greater selection of quality things to read and things that

[1:47:45] they're gonna they're gonna enjoy more so like it's nice when like I say it's

[1:47:49] nice when there are things for everybody and it's not everybody just

[1:47:52] having to make do with the same the same stuff you know because eventually we're

[1:47:56] just living in that repo man world you know where it's just a can that says

[1:47:59] food on it that's all you that's all you get hey let's move on to our final

[1:48:06] segment of the show which is where we recommend movies that we liked in this

[1:48:12] case not ironically we all kind of liked moonfall as a silly thing but like

[1:48:16] something that's maybe good I mean because none of us are making the

[1:48:21] argument that moonfall is good but yeah here's a movie that I saw at a weird

[1:48:29] Wednesday presentation at the Alamo and I enjoyed it I would say I enjoyed it

[1:48:35] quite a bit but it also has it's it's it's a it's got its flaws let's say it's

[1:48:42] called Delta Space Mission it was the first Romanian full-length animated

[1:48:49] movie although when I say full-length it's under 70 minutes it's from 1984 I

[1:48:57] was it is subtitled but the but the actors it's subtitling like it's one

[1:49:06] case where maybe it would work better dubbed because the actors who are whose

[1:49:10] voices are in it are not providing any emotion or character to their

[1:49:15] characters and it is a baffling plot like it is hard to sort of understand

[1:49:22] everything that is going on but you know you only need to understand the most

[1:49:26] basic level which is there's a super smart supercomputer that falls for a

[1:49:32] sexy alien reporter and then sends a bunch of spaceships and robots to try

[1:49:39] and kidnap her but you don't watch it for the plot it is the weak part of the

[1:49:46] film the interesting part of the movie is just the the visual style it is a

[1:49:53] weird semi psychedelic animated space opera

[1:50:00] I

[1:50:01] You know, I'm looking at my letterbox review because I wanted to recall what I wrote down and I said it's equal parts Peter

[1:50:06] Max old Sesame Street cartoon short heavy metal comics the Star Trek filmation series and

[1:50:13] illustrations from a 70s high school science textbook and like a lot of it is done and

[1:50:19] rotoscoping which gives it this like weirdly

[1:50:23] Hyperrealism

[1:50:25] Hyperrealistic movement to go along with the strange style and then some of it's just you know, old-fashioned limited cell animation and

[1:50:34] not that great, but

[1:50:36] Always just sort of startling to look at and you know

[1:50:40] It it drags a bit of parts even at its time

[1:50:43] But it is if you want something that feels like it has been sort of beamed in from another world

[1:50:50] The

[1:50:52] Delta space mission has that vibe. It's great

[1:50:55] I'm gonna recommend a movie that I don't probably doesn't need me to champion it because it was nominated for a Best Picture this year

[1:51:01] I'm gonna recommend drive my car

[1:51:04] Japanese movie directed by Riyazuki

[1:51:07] Hamaguchi, I believe I said that right

[1:51:09] and it's based on a

[1:51:11] Hiroki Murakami story and feel I haven't read the story, but it definitely feels like a Murakami story

[1:51:18] Someone spent a lot of time folding their laundry or making pasta in the middle of the day

[1:51:21] I mean it feels it's it's well, the main character is a

[1:51:26] Middle-aged man who does not communicate his feelings for most of the movie

[1:51:31] but it's

[1:51:33] it's a so the movies about a man who

[1:51:37] loses his wife and

[1:51:41] Years later he is

[1:51:44] Years later he is kind of coping with that while

[1:51:50] Producing a production of

[1:51:52] a the play uncle Vanya for a

[1:51:56] for a festival and

[1:51:58] it's a play that he had a deep connection to and he had he and his wife had a connection to and

[1:52:04] it kind of

[1:52:05] Follows him and some of the the characters some of the people that are involved in this production

[1:52:13] and he has to examine his his grief about his wife and

[1:52:19] Also, he forms a connection with the young woman who drives has to drive his car

[1:52:25] And it's great

[1:52:27] Yeah, check it out. It's it's long. It's three hours long

[1:52:30] I mean, there's a moment 40 minutes in when they drop the credits

[1:52:33] And I'm like, oh shit, we're in it, baby

[1:52:39] But no fooling around the movie is really starting now, yeah, it's great. It's great Elliot

[1:52:44] I'm gonna recommend a movie that sounds very different from that. I'm gonna recommend the movie a field in England

[1:52:50] Directed by Ben Wheatley and written by Amy jump and this is a movie it is an hour and a half long

[1:52:55] It is much shorter, but it really feels like you've been through a real quest experience

[1:53:00] unpleasant

[1:53:02] Sometimes unpleasant sometimes not it's set during the English Civil War and there is a guy who

[1:53:07] Basically is trying to run away from an assignment. He is given to catch

[1:53:13] catch an alchemist who has stolen some things from the alchemist who is his master and

[1:53:17] he meets up with a soldier and eventually falls under the

[1:53:21] under the power of that bad guy alchemist and a lot of it is these different is these this small group of

[1:53:29] 17th century Englishmen wandering around kind of complaining about the 17th century in ways that I found very funny a lot of the time

[1:53:35] yeah, and

[1:53:36] but then about about two-thirds in it becomes it becomes very strangely hallucinatory and

[1:53:43] And loses its bearings to a certain extent

[1:53:46] It's a movie where looking at it from purely from a does this plot make sense point of view?

[1:53:50] It does not totally make sense

[1:53:52] but I enjoyed it a lot and I thought it was alternately funny and also

[1:53:57] Offsetting and and

[1:54:00] Discomfiting and

[1:54:01] It's just a strange little movie and considering it as a movie that is mostly five guys just wandering around in a field

[1:54:08] I thought hamburgers

[1:54:13] Hamburger chain in the same name five guys

[1:54:16] Exactly these five guys and they it was and one of them uses five napkins on his burgers. That's for five napkin

[1:54:22] Oh, wow, but the it's

[1:54:24] It's all parties

[1:54:26] It's all shot black and white and I thought it looks really good. So it's my movie that I'm recommending

[1:54:32] But it's a your mileage may vary with it, but I liked a lot. It's called a field in England. Well guys

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