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FH Mini 55 - The Fruit Group, with Chris Weitz
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Stuart Wellington
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Hey there, and welcome to another Flophouse Manny brought to you by Minnie's Bar and Maniac
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of New York.
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This is an episode of the Flophouse podcast that unlike a full episode where we watch
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a bad movie and talk about, this is one of our Manny's where we talk about something
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kind of whatever the fuck we want to talk about.
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Now, for example, this would normally be the time where I would be hosting a game show
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called Skeet, Scoot, Scarrett, where I would give my friends challenging questions where
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they would have to guess whether or not the movie features Skeet Ulrich, Scoot McNary,
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or Tom Scarrett, and if they got it wrong, they would be kicked out of the podcast forever.
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But we're not going to be playing that game tonight.
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Wow.
Stuart Wellington
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I know.
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High stakes.
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That's what people are into these days.
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It's a squid game.
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Those are amazing Skeet, Scoot.
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What was the other one?
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A Scarrett Stakes.
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Yep.
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That's the scariest thing about it is that if you get Scarrett wrong, I don't know where
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I was going with this.
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Scarrett stories just hell in the dark.
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But instead, we're doing something completely different.
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We're doing something that I feel like our listeners have been begging for.
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I get tweets about this all the time.
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That's right.
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We're going to be talking tangerines and other tasty treats with the Flophouse Fruit Group.
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And joining us today, we have my guest host, Dan McCoy, Elliot Kalen, and the original fruit
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brewed himself, Chris Weitz.
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Hey, Chris.
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Thanks for joining us.
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Hey, a very fruity evening to you three guys.
Dan McCoy
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The most natural and obvious fit for this bit for reasons that I'm looking forward to finding
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out over the course of it.
Elliott Kalan
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And the most obvious natural bit for the show to do, considering one-third of the host hates
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fruit, refuses to eat them.
Stuart Wellington
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That's the funniest part.
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So, let's give a little background.
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First off, Chris, thank you so much for joining us.
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I'm very excited to talk to you about your background with fruit.
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But to give everybody a little bit of a heads up, I've become a little bit of a healthy boy
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in the last year or so.
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A big part of my life is eating fruit and nuts.
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But nuts are a different thing.
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We're going to be talking nuts in the nut house.
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Not going nuts.
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I think that's copyright and Magic Tavern Boys.
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But we'll talk about nuts another time.
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That's not tonight.
Elliott Kalan
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Wait, Stu.
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Actually, I have one nut-related thing.
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So, I've been watching a lot of television.
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Oh, I've heard of it.
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And is this – they've been running a lot of ads for nuts.com, which is some kind of
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website where you can order nuts.
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Is that a nationwide thing or is it just a California area business?
Stuart Wellington
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Are you asking if the commercials are a California thing?
Elliott Kalan
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If you turn on the TV on the East Coast, are you going to see a commercial for nuts?
Chris Weitz
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A local World Wide Web website like they have.
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Yeah, that's what I wanted to ask.
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It's a statewide website.
Dan McCoy
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Are you seeing this on streaming services or are we talking like old-fashioned?
Elliott Kalan
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CNN, baby.
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TV.
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CNN.
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When I'm watching Stanley Tucci searching for Italy, nuts.com comes up a lot.
Stuart Wellington
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It's not the ad that plays before your pornographic video.
Chris Weitz
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Has he found it yet?
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I haven't been watching.
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Did he get there?
Stuart Wellington
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Oh, are you asking if Stanley Tucci found Italy?
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That's actually a good question.
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He's still looking for Italy.
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He's bringing spices from America to Italy.
Elliott Kalan
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The last episode he actually was in London, so I think he has not found Italy or they ran
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out of budget.
Chris Weitz
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But he named it New Italy.
Elliott Kalan
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And he went back to Queen Isabella.
Chris Weitz
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Oh, mama mia.
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And said he would subdue the natives and get gold.
Elliott Kalan
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Oh, yeah.
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He enslaved most of parliament and put them into the pasta mines to bring back what they
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needed.
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Very sad.
Stuart Wellington
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So today's episode, I can't really answer that because most of New York commercials are
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either online sports betting app ads or cars for kids.
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Can I add one more nut thing?
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Actually, I wanted to start.
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Yeah, yeah.
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We're taking a nut break.
Chris Weitz
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I always thought if I had a nut company, I would call it What Are You?
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So that then when you call them up, they would answer, What are you, nuts?
Elliott Kalan
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What do you think, guys?
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Oh, fuck.
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That's good.
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That's good.
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What's your business model?
Dan McCoy
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That's it.
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That's it.
Elliott Kalan
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Just the name.
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Okay.
Dan McCoy
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Well, sharks, what do we think?
Elliott Kalan
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Yeah.
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I mean, I like it.
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I'm all in, dog.
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I'll turn my chair around for it.
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Is that what you do in this show?
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I don't know.
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I've never seen it.
Stuart Wellington
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That was actually a shockingly good Mark Cuban impression right there.
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I'm all in, dog.
Elliott Kalan
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I like this business idea.
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Dog, throw him in the tank full of sharks.
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See if he gets out alive.
Dan McCoy
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Elliot saw one reality contest years ago.
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He assumes that they're emblematic of all of them.
Stuart Wellington
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I mean, if Elliot was really trying to make this like a reality show, he'd be like, actually,
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Chris, I don't like that idea.
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I love it.
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Wow.
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God, you had to be going there.
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Turnabout.
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Yeah.
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Kind of stressed me out.
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I'm glad that that pregnant pause I left didn't get filled with Elliot talking.
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I was kind of assuming it was going to be.
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No, no.
Elliott Kalan
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I saw where that joke was and I decided to hold back from interrupting it and derailing it.
Chris Weitz
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That shows real gross.
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You know what?
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I think this has happened more than once that we need to deal with the problem of pauses getting pregnant so easily.
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What are we going to do about it?
Elliott Kalan
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It happened before, didn't it?
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Topical.
Dan McCoy
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We got very topical all of a sudden.
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It got very intense.
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What are we talking about fruit?
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What's going on?
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Okay.
Stuart Wellington
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Fruit-wise.
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Dan wants to get down to brass tacks and I am with you.
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So to give you a little bit of background, I've become a healthy boy.
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It's important to me.
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And I thought, who better to talk about fruit, one of the pillars of the food groups here, than my buddy Chris White, a guy who the last time we hung out, I was like, wouldn't it be funny if we did a podcast and talked about fruit?
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Yep.
Elliott Kalan
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So Chris, what's your connection to fruit?
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Why did I take them up?
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It is.
Chris Weitz
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It's an excellent question.
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And I've put together a little speech of about 40 minutes to answer it.
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Actually, I don't know.
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I got the call.
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The flop signal went out a couple of days ago.
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And I said, what's it going to be?
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Anything but fruit.
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And then lo and behold, it was fruit.
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So imagine my dismay.
Stuart Wellington
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Now, anybody who's trying to do a little bit of, to excavate my Twitter account will find that about a week ago, we were out drinking with the Blank Check Boys.
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And about 10 hours into drinking, I think I tweeted, tonight is the point of a drunken, or right now is the point of a drunken night where I'm a menace to everyone in my contacts list.
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And you know what, Chris White, you're in my contacts list, buddy.
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Consider me menace.
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So you have been drafted.
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No, it's great.
Chris Weitz
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I want to earn my way back from the joyless slog through the story of my career that was the last mini that I did with you guys.
Elliott Kalan
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I thought that was very educational and also entertaining.
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Well, thank you.
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Educational, I would call it.
Chris Weitz
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Yes, you and the other two guys on this podcast.
Stuart Wellington
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I certainly will call it educational.
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So just to give you guys a little bit of a breakdown, just so that the listeners at home know what we're going to be getting into.
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We're going to break.
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And us also.
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Also, so we know what we're getting into.
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Oh, yeah.
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And so that you guys know what we're getting into.
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To break down tonight's episode, I'm just going to give us some points.
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The first section is going to be called Everyday Snacking, Fruit That Is Part of Your Daily Diet.
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Chapter two is Baked in a Pie, Fruit That Is Perfect for Dessert.
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Wait a second.
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Chapter three, Fruit on Film.
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The main attraction is Fruit.
Dan McCoy
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Wait, that's all part of the same title?
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That was one title.
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Part three.
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I think that was the slogan, the tagline.
Stuart Wellington
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Chapter four, Reversal of Fortunes.
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Times change and so do our taste buds.
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What fruit did you use to love and never eat?
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And what do you hate now that you loved growing up?
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Who knows?
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And you didn't want to call that Reversal of Fruit-tunes?
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Oh, fuck.
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Alex, change it.
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Change it real quick.
Dan McCoy
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Yeah, I guess snip out Elliot saying.
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Over and over.
Stuart Wellington
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Okay.
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And then finally, we're going to wrap it up with part five.
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That's right.
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We're going to do an all-time top five fave fruits.
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This is our definitive ranking based on all the important categories.
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Feel, flavor, ease of consumption, appearance, wild card.
Dan McCoy
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
Stuart Wellington
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Okay.
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So we know we're in four.
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So let's start with the first topic, fellows.
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Chapter one, everyday snacking.
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Fruit that's part of your daily diet.
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So Elliot, I have a feeling I know your answer.
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Guys, what kind of fruits do you guys eat on a daily basis?
Chris Weitz
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Finally.
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Someone asking the hard questions.
Dan McCoy
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I'll say that I'm also on the first leg of a journey to become a healthy boy.
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So I've been keeping fruit around.
Elliott Kalan
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Like here's the thing.
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Right now, you're just looking at fruit.
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You're just having it around you and looking at it.
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That's the first thing.
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Keeping it around.
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Part of it is.
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I've been doing a lot of acclimating myself to fruit by having it around in the apartment.
Dan McCoy
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I mean, you joke, but that's almost exactly what I was about to say.
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Because like the thing is, you got to have the food around.
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You got to have the good food around to replace the bad food.
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It's not like I'm going to eat less food, guys.
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Let's be frank.
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I've gotten too used to putting something in my mouth.
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I'm going to be Stuart.
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I'm sorry.
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Yeah.
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Stuart refusing to be frank.
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Good stance.
Chris Weitz
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Know thyself.
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So do you let the fruit get closer to you every day?
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Like first, this is 10 feet away.
Dan McCoy
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If I see fruit around.
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Look, seeing fruit is the first step to eating fruit.
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So if I need a healthy breakfast.
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I mean, it's a very first step.
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A very first step.
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You know, and if there's a banana on the counter, I'm going to have the banana instead of something else.
Elliott Kalan
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So Dan is introducing an interesting idea, which is that blind people can't eat fruit, according to Dan.
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It's not.
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If seeing the fruit is the first step, then they can't even get on board.
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They can't get in on the ground floor.
Dan McCoy
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I didn't say it's a necessary step.
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It's a step in my life on the road to eating fruit.
Chris Weitz
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Could you fool yourself by sort of secreting it into other things, like inside of a meatloaf or something?
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Like a banana?
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That's a good question.
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Or a banana inside a burger.
Elliott Kalan
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I thought you were going to say fool yourself by looking at a banana and then reaching for a candy bar.
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But you're not looking at it, but you're still reaching for it blindly.
Dan McCoy
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I think the effects of putting something that's not very calorically dense into something very calorically dense.
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You're going to take down the overall density, but better just to replace the meatloaf with something else.
Stuart Wellington
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I mean, I feel like it's not uncommon for a meatloaf to feature like raisins or prunes.
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I mean, I feel like those are like a binding or a flavor agent.
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Yeah, I'm not on board with that.
Elliott Kalan
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Yeah, I think what's raising an interesting question too is who is eating meatloaf as a snack, which is what the banana would be.
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That's actually true.
Dan McCoy
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A banana is not a meal unless you're a monkey.
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A banana is a meal replacement.
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I have most days these days.
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Like a meatball is a snack.
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I have a hard-boiled egg for breakfast and then possibly also a banana if I'm lucky.
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If I'm lucky, guys.
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Do you eat your egg on like a little cup?
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Like one of those little egg cups?
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Oh, it's a hard-boiled egg.
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And you crack egg.
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Okay.
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That's for a soft-boiled.
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Oh, God.
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I feel like an idiot.
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I'm the only one who's making any effort to engage with the questions here.
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You can dip a little toast point into it.
Chris Weitz
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Like a crack open, a soft-boiled egg.
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You can dip a toast point in it.
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But instead, you could dip in some kind of fruit.
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Like a wedge of puccona.
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Puccona into the yolk.
Stuart Wellington
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I mean, if we're talking about everyday fruit, of course, I have pineapple or oranges in the morning.
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And then throughout the day, I eat mangoes, dried mangoes, watermelon, and pears.
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Dried mangoes are-
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Oh, and I have a banana.
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I have one to two bananas before working out.
Chris Weitz
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Sorry, I was jumping in there.
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But dried mangoes are very sugary, right?
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Because once you remove the water, then you're looking at some damage.
Stuart Wellington
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Yeah.
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That's true.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I got to have a treat there, you know?
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Yeah.
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I'm worth it.
Dan McCoy
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After some fully hydrated mangoes, a nice treat like a dried mango is.
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It's good.
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Talk about caloric density.
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You're removing all of the stuff that makes it fill you up without causing calories.
Stuart Wellington
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The point of the Flophouse Fruit Group is not to talk about the benefits of fruit,
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but just how good and how tasty it is.
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I see.
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And how easy to eat sometimes.
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Well, no.
Dan McCoy
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Dried mango is a very good, tasty fruit.
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I just look-
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Well, the hedonism, though, Stu, of your fruit lifestyle to be like,
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my everyday morning fruit is pineapple.
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That's true.
Elliott Kalan
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You're right, Dan.
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Really take him to task for that one.
Chris Weitz
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Do you slice the hard rind off your pineapple,
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or do you buy pre-cut in like a plastic tub?
Elliott Kalan
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Or do you just take a bite out of a pineapple shell?
Stuart Wellington
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That's actually a good question, Elliot.
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Now, Chris is making me reveal that I spend more money on pineapple
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by buying the plastic pre-cut stuff.
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Because I've never actually cut my own pineapple before.
Dan McCoy
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It's fun.
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You get-
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Like, Audrey showed me how to do it with the minimum of waste.
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You end up with like a spiral around the pineapple
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because you got to get all the little-
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Nubbins.
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What?
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Barbs?
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Yes, a bit.
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Yeah, the barbs.
Elliott Kalan
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At the risk of being a curmudgeon,
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I'm going to say that does not sound fun.
Dan McCoy
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Come on.
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You get a spiral cut, you know, looks-
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Wait, you guys, films.
Chris Weitz
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Films.
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The Draftsman's Contract.
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You guys seen that?
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There's an intense pineapple moment at the end.
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Wait, the movie's called The Draftsman's Contract?
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Yeah.
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Is that Peter Greenaway?
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Peter Greenaway, The Draftsman's Contract.
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Yeah.
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That's one of his that I've not seen.
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I think it might be his best because the other ones kind of stink.
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But yeah, at the end-
Elliott Kalan
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This is what the listeners tune in for for these hot takes on Peter Greenaway.
Chris Weitz
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Spoiler alert, at the end, the guy who has been the living statue takes a bite of the pineapple
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because it's all set in the 18th, 17th century.
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Anyway, pineapples were very, very impressive and expensive at the time.
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And he takes a bite of the pineapple then, but he bites right into the hard, nubbly bit
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and spits it out because he doesn't understand the nature of the pineapple.
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Yeah.
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If only it had a Dan McCoy there to cut it up perfectly.
Stuart Wellington
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Spiral it out for him.
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Now, Dan, part of it is I feel like you're-
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I feel like now that I-
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When I come over to record, your wife often-
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Audrey often offers me various fruit.
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She seems to be-
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Is she encouraging this lifestyle shift for you?
Dan McCoy
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If the lifestyle shift you're talking about is being hospitable to guests, then yes.
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Yes, that's what I was asking.
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Well, and the pineapple is the fruit of hospitality.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I-
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I'm the grumpy one who's like, he's got his own fruit.
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He doesn't need to eat all the pineapple.
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He gets fruit all the time.
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Don't waste your good fruit.
Stuart Wellington
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Well, that's lovely.
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So, I think that covers all of our everyday snacking.
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Elliot, do you got anything to add here?
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Do you feed your kids fruit or do you just give them, what, like fried toast points?
Elliott Kalan
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Mostly it's fried toast points.
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I have a deep fat fryer and I put toast points in it.
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Kids love it.
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Yeah, kids love that.
[16:01]
My-
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I, as maybe long-time listeners will know, I don't like fruit.
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I think it's gross.
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I don't-
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It doesn't-
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It isn't good to me.
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But, as my children never fail to remind me, cucumbers are technically a fruit because they have seeds on the inside.
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So, I do eat a lot of cucumber in my daily life.
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I do love that your children take after you.
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Yeah, my children are very much like me in that they are constantly correcting me and are annoying when they do it.
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But, my children eat a lot of fruit, especially my younger one, the almost four-year-old, constant fruit.
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So, I find myself handling a lot of fruit and like peeling oranges, which I find disgusting.
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And I have to do with my-
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When you like dig in with your fingernails to rip the peel open and it gets under your fingernail, ugh, I hate it.
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But, lately, he's been on a real cherry kick.
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So, I've been doing a lot of pitting cherries and getting cherry juice splattering on me as I pit them.
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But, I do like to use the cherry pitting machine because it's like one of those things that Jeremy Irons had made for gynecology for mutant women in Dead Ringers.
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That's what I imagine that tool is like.
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Stuart, what were you going to say?
Stuart Wellington
[17:02]
First off, I was going to say, I don't know what a cherry pitting machine is at all.
Elliott Kalan
[17:07]
Well, it's not really a machine.
[17:07]
I mean, it's a simple machine.
Stuart Wellington
[17:08]
It just pushes the pit out.
[17:10]
It's like a hole punch for a cherry.
[17:12]
Oh, okay.
[17:12]
That makes sense.
[17:13]
Like a leather punch, but for a cherry.
Chris Weitz
[17:16]
Top tip for listeners, you can use a straw for that as well.
[17:22]
In case you don't want to go.
[17:24]
That is a top tip.
[17:24]
That's the kind of tip you only get on a blockhouse mani or a fruit club.
Dan McCoy
[17:28]
Did I ever tell you guys that I sent in a tip to Cook's Illustrated?
[17:33]
You got it?
[17:34]
No.
[17:34]
No.
Elliott Kalan
[17:35]
I want that issue.
Dan McCoy
[17:36]
Are you familiar?
Elliott Kalan
[17:37]
So, I don't know if any of you read Cook's Illustrated, but there's a…
[17:42]
My father-in-law is a big reader of Cook's Illustrated.
[17:45]
They're always lying around me.
[17:46]
I'm actually a subscriber.
Dan McCoy
[17:48]
Well, the tips section in the front, you will know, is like…
[17:52]
That magazine is barely illustrated.
[17:54]
Silliest…
[17:55]
Well, those are the most illustrations.
[17:57]
This is when the tips.
[17:58]
They've got all these line drawings because it's a very important cooking magazine.
[18:02]
So, it has line drawings.
[18:04]
But all the tips are making things so much harder.
[18:08]
And, like, I mean, in the same spirit, I gave them a tip of mine that was, like…
[18:14]
Honestly, looking back, I'm like, why did I waste my time on this?
[18:17]
But I would…
[18:18]
When I made iced tea, I would string the strings of the tea through the hooks of a slotted spoon.
[18:24]
So, I would have, like, a nice little, like, tea bundle that I could pull all of the tea out.
[18:30]
And it was an easy way of doing it.
Elliott Kalan
[18:32]
Saving you milliseconds.
Dan McCoy
[18:34]
I mean, not the time that you took to thread the tea strings through.
[18:38]
I'll tell you.
[18:39]
It may not have saved me a lot of time.
[18:41]
But it did save me the money of a year's worth of Cook's Illustrated because I got a free subscription off that tip.
[18:48]
Oh, that's worth it.
[18:49]
That's great.
[18:50]
That's great.
Stuart Wellington
[18:51]
Oh, man.
[18:52]
So, what issue was that?
[18:55]
So, eagle-eyed listeners can go…
[18:57]
I don't know.
Dan McCoy
[18:58]
Eagle-eyed listeners go back several years back.
Chris Weitz
[19:01]
If I had done that, I would know exactly the issue and the month and everything.
[19:04]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[19:05]
I'm surprised you don't have the page framed on your wall, Dan.
Dan McCoy
[19:07]
I have a photo of it somewhere.
[19:09]
I don't know.
Elliott Kalan
[19:11]
That's cool.
[19:11]
Like a Polaroid?
Dan McCoy
[19:12]
On my phone.
[19:14]
Not like…
Stuart Wellington
[19:14]
I didn't, like…
[19:15]
I didn't frame a photo of the magazine.
Chris Weitz
[19:16]
I once got a…
[19:18]
I got a trap entered into Grimtooth's Traps, Volume 2, published by Flying Buffalo.
[19:25]
That's very cool, dude.
[19:27]
It's pretty cool, right?
[19:29]
What was the trap?
[19:30]
The trap was…
[19:31]
Well, okay.
[19:32]
First of all, I was 13 years old.
[19:34]
And it was a…
[19:37]
I think it wouldn't have been fair.
Elliott Kalan
[19:38]
It wouldn't have been fair if as an adult you submitted.
[19:41]
It's true.
[19:42]
Because you're competing with children and you're a professional screenwriter.
[19:45]
Yeah, the brain power I would have brought to bear.
Chris Weitz
[19:46]
It was a balsa wood dragon, right?
[19:48]
The trap was a balsa wood dragon.
[19:50]
And inside would be the real sort of monsters like, you know, what have you.
[19:54]
Orcs, kobolds, et cetera.
[19:57]
And so, like, when the adventurers would go and attack it with swords, if they did, swords would get stuck in the balsa wood.
[20:05]
And then the orcs would burst out with the element of surprise.
Stuart Wellington
[20:10]
That's a good trap.
[20:11]
That's a good trap.
[20:12]
You know…
[20:13]
Feel free to use it.
[20:13]
Years ago, I got a fan letter published in an issue of Savage Dragon.
[20:19]
That's pretty cool.
[20:20]
Nice.
Elliott Kalan
[20:21]
Oh, yeah.
[20:22]
I once had a fan letter printed in an issue of Wolverine.
Stuart Wellington
[20:24]
What was the letters page in Wolverine?
[20:27]
Because in Savage Dragon, it was Finn Addicts.
Elliott Kalan
[20:31]
Oh.
[20:32]
I don't remember what the Wolverine was.
[20:33]
It was probably like Snick Stamps or something like that.
[20:35]
I don't remember it being a particularly good title.
Dan McCoy
[20:37]
Well, we've all defined what flavor of nerd we are.
[20:40]
Okay.
[20:40]
Now we can move on.
Elliott Kalan
[20:41]
Moving on.
[20:42]
Chapter two.
[20:42]
See, I think it was like I'm the best there is at what I do, and what I do is write letters to Wolverine.
Stuart Wellington
[20:48]
That makes sense.
[20:49]
Yeah.
[20:50]
So, chapter two is baked in a pie, fruit that is perfect for dessert.
[20:54]
What kind of a dessert confection…
[20:56]
Like, what kind of fruit addition to a dessert encourages you to order that dessert from a menu?
[21:03]
Dan, you're the baker of the group.
[21:04]
What kind of dessert…
[21:05]
What kind of fruit do you like when you are baking?
Dan McCoy
[21:09]
You know what?
[21:10]
I…
[21:11]
A peach is a good…
[21:13]
A peach is a good…
[21:14]
I find that peach is a good baking…
[21:20]
Like, stone fruit in general…
[21:22]
Because, like, the thing about stone fruit is if you get something perfectly in season, perfectly ripe, it's going to be delicious.
[21:30]
That's a very small window.
[21:32]
But if you put it in a pie or a cobbler or a grunt or a crisp…
[21:37]
What's a grunt?
[21:39]
Grunt.
[21:39]
Wait.
[21:39]
What is a grunt?
[21:40]
Same question.
[21:41]
I'm familiar with the Brothers Grunt.
[21:42]
I used to know what it is.
[21:44]
It's like it's closer to a cobbler.
[21:46]
Let's see.
Stuart Wellington
[21:47]
Wasn't Russell Crowe's, like, hip-hop band called something…
[21:51]
Something on feet of grunts?
Dan McCoy
[21:53]
It was 30-odd foot of grunt.
[21:54]
I think a grunt might be the one that has just biscuits on top.
[21:57]
Was that a sexual thing?
Elliott Kalan
[21:59]
Like, 30-odd feet of grunt?
[22:01]
Like, Russell Crowe?
[22:03]
I don't know.
[22:03]
That's a good question.
[22:04]
I mean, Russell Crowe's such a sexual being that it's hard to imagine it wasn't.
[22:09]
Yeah.
[22:09]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[22:10]
It's basically like you're dropping dumplings on top of your fruit.
[22:14]
That's what I say when I have to use the bat.
[22:17]
Yeah.
[22:17]
Yeah.
[22:19]
So you like stone fruit, peaches?
[22:23]
Yeah.
[22:24]
And it's boring.
[22:25]
Another fruit that, like, don't care for an apple most of the time, usually mealy, unless
[22:30]
you get, like, a really great deviler.
[22:33]
But a good cooking fruit as well.
Elliott Kalan
[22:37]
My kids, they go through a lot of apples.
[22:39]
And that's one of my favorite fruits to have to handle for them because it's, you know,
[22:42]
it's less sticky and gross.
[22:45]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[22:45]
Right.
[22:45]
Do your kids have a favorite type of apple?
[22:51]
No.
[22:52]
No?
[22:53]
Is it because they don't know or because you intentionally hide that there are different
[22:57]
types of apples from them?
[22:59]
I don't want them to go further down that road.
[23:01]
Yeah.
[23:01]
The road that you've gone down in which Dan has started to go down by looking at fruit
Elliott Kalan
[23:05]
in his own home.
Stuart Wellington
[23:05]
Yeah.
[23:06]
There's no way back.
[23:06]
I'm Sam Neill in Event Horizon at this point.
Elliott Kalan
[23:09]
Just ripping your own eyes out because you've seen too many fruit.
Chris Weitz
[23:13]
The debauched world of being able to distinguish between different kinds of apple.
[23:19]
My middle child, Paolo, specializes in asking for an apple just when it's time to go to bed.
Elliott Kalan
[23:27]
Oh, that's a favorite of Sammy's also.
[23:30]
Nice.
[23:30]
He's getting into bed and he goes, oh, suddenly I'm hungry.
[23:33]
Can I have an apple?
[23:35]
And it's like, well, it's a healthy food.
[23:37]
I guess we can't say no.
[23:38]
And he's like, hey, like you didn't ask before.
[23:40]
I didn't, I wasn't hungry before.
[23:42]
I didn't know, yeah.
[23:43]
But I brushed my teeth already.
[23:45]
Like he brings that out as if it's like.
[23:47]
I guess I'll have to brush my teeth again.
[23:48]
He's trying to be conscious.
Elliott Kalan
[23:50]
Yeah.
[23:50]
Oh, and how much longer is it past my bedtime?
[23:53]
Oh, wow.
Stuart Wellington
[23:54]
Oh, man.
[23:56]
Hey, kids, you gotta love them.
[23:58]
Kids.
[24:00]
I was about to say, so when it comes to dessert, you know, I was about to say a pistachio,
[24:08]
but that would be a nut and nut is not a fruit as we've addressed.
[24:14]
Pistachio.
[24:14]
That's good.
[24:16]
I do like, I do like strawberry, especially if strawberry is mixed with my old pal rhubarb.
[24:23]
I'm sorry.
[24:23]
I was going to jump in there and say rhubarb, but I didn't want to spoil it for you.
Dan McCoy
[24:26]
How did I forget?
[24:27]
Strawberry rhubarb pie is my favorite of all.
[24:29]
It's the best.
Elliott Kalan
[24:30]
Now, what if strawberry was mixed with Rue McClanahan?
[24:32]
Would you feel the same way?
Stuart Wellington
[24:34]
Oh, man, that'd be extra spicy, Elliot.
[24:38]
Now, here's a, oh, sorry.
Chris Weitz
[24:40]
No, well, it's actually, this is important that I get to this.
[24:43]
I was going to say blueberry.
[24:45]
But also, you may notice that I forgot to answer the previous question, and you know what it would have been?
[24:50]
Blueberries.
[24:52]
So, just, it's a pattern.
Elliott Kalan
[24:54]
It's interesting you say that because blueberries is part of what I was going to say, too.
[24:57]
Stuart says, what kind of dessert would you, seeing fruit on the menu, will make you want to order it?
[25:01]
I will actively not order a dessert when they list that fruit is part of it.
[25:06]
And one time, the only time I've ever eaten at the steak restaurant in Yankee Stadium, they listed as a dessert.
[25:12]
It was like chocolate pudding.
[25:14]
And I was like, that's great.
[25:15]
What can you do with that?
[25:15]
That sounds fine.
[25:16]
And I didn't find out until they delivered it that it was chocolate pudding with berries in the pudding, just kind of haphazardly strewn without, as if a great galley full of berries had been sunk by an invading Viking horde.
[25:29]
And the berries manning the oars had just fallen into the pudding sea.
[25:33]
And so, I then had to use my spoon to individually remove these berries, and I could just see the level of the pudding going down as I removed so many berries from the bowl.
[25:43]
It was so disappointing.
Stuart Wellington
[25:44]
Yeah, you feel like they were just really, they were taking up a lot of real estate.
[25:48]
They were filling in with these cheap berries as compared to the chocolate pudding, which I can only assume was much cheaper.
Elliott Kalan
[25:56]
I'm sure it was cheap.
[25:57]
I mean, the real issue is that I like eating chocolate pudding, and I don't like eating berries.
[26:00]
So, it's like, hey, we have the food you ordered.
[26:03]
Here's a secret surprise.
[26:04]
It's full of a thing you don't like.
[26:05]
But we didn't say that on the menu.
[26:08]
Unless you're saying that, like, they ran out of chocolate pudding, and they were like, we need some filler to help fill up this bowl.
[26:13]
Quick, hand me those berries.
[26:14]
Everyone loves them.
Dan McCoy
[26:15]
Hand me those berries and this insulation.
[26:18]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[26:20]
They probably were like, this kid needs some antioxidant stat.
[26:23]
Let's throw some berries in that shit.
[26:25]
That's possible.
[26:26]
But there were a lot of blueberries in there.
[26:28]
I got to go back, guys, under everyday snacking.
[26:32]
A big component of my meals is I have protein shakes.
[26:36]
I take a vegan protein powder, and I usually mix it with a banana, a handful of blueberries for my antioxidants, as I've already mentioned.
[26:45]
Some peanut butter, almond milk, and almond, once again, almond milk, not fruit.
[26:49]
That's a nut.
Elliott Kalan
[26:50]
We just can't get away from nuts in this conversation.
Stuart Wellington
[26:53]
I can't.
[26:53]
I'm trapped.
[26:56]
And ice.
[26:57]
And that's, yeah.
[26:58]
So I make a smoothie like that basically every day.
Elliott Kalan
[27:02]
Speaking of berries and also everyday snacking, again, my kids love fruit.
[27:06]
I don't.
[27:07]
But one thing I do bond with my younger child over is we have a mulberry bush in our yard.
[27:12]
And you go around it.
[27:13]
And we go around it, all around it, early in the morning.
[27:17]
And so right now we're in mulberry season.
[27:21]
And the mulberries ripen just a handful at a time.
[27:24]
And it's very fun to go with him when we hunt through the leaves together to get mulberries for him.
[27:28]
And he's small enough still that he can just walk into the inside of this mulberry bush.
[27:32]
And I'll just see the leaves shaking periodically.
[27:34]
And I know he's in there.
[27:35]
And then he'll just walk out covered in mulberry juice.
[27:38]
How can you hate fruit after that?
[27:41]
I like that my child enjoys it, but I still don't want it.
Chris Weitz
[27:44]
You should start a silk industry by feeding mulberry leaves to some silkworms.
Elliott Kalan
[27:51]
Oh, yeah.
[27:52]
That's a great idea.
[27:53]
I mean, I'm already raising regular worms in my garage.
[27:55]
Everybody needs a side hustle.
[27:58]
And I think this silkworm business.
[27:59]
Yours can be worms.
Chris Weitz
[28:03]
Actually, I'd like to tell you a little bit about my smoothie habit, which is to use dark sweet cherries.
[28:09]
And I also have a song that I sing to my children, which goes with them.
[28:12]
I'm going to sing it for you right now.
[28:14]
Yes, please.
[28:15]
Dark sweet cherries, dark sweet cherries, dark sweet cherries.
Elliott Kalan
[28:19]
I ain't messing with no berries.
[28:21]
See?
[28:22]
Yeah.
[28:22]
That's a good one.
[28:23]
How do your children react to that song?
[28:25]
With delight?
Chris Weitz
[28:26]
After about 50 times, they remembered it.
Elliott Kalan
[28:32]
Oh, that's because they're mostly tuning you out at that point.
Chris Weitz
[28:35]
Oh, and there's another one I did, which was to the tune of,
[28:38]
It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas.
[28:40]
It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Syphilis.
[28:44]
This is another mealtime song?
[28:46]
Yeah, but then the children remember that almost instantly, and my wife Mercedes is really mad that I ever did that.
Elliott Kalan
[28:53]
Yeah, that's like any song parody that involves poop or something like that, the children pick it up very quickly.
[29:00]
And yet my parody song, 50 Films with Danny Glover, a parody of 50 Ways to Leave Your Lover, they never remember the lyrics.
[29:06]
Yeah, they never.
Stuart Wellington
[29:06]
I think that calling these songs parodies is a little joke.
[29:10]
Yeah.
[29:13]
Weird Al Yankamick is already writing an angry letter into us.
Elliott Kalan
[29:16]
Yeah, it's Dear Sirs.
[29:18]
Have I ever sang that?
[29:19]
Someday I'll have to sing that song on the podcast, 50 Films with Danny Glover.
[29:22]
I'll have to look up all the lyrics.
[29:23]
Yeah, I like that.
[29:25]
Here's part of the chorus.
[29:26]
There's Lethal Weapon 3, Lee.
[29:28]
Lethal Weapon 4, Thor.
[29:30]
Lethal Weapon 2, Lou.
[29:32]
Now listen to me.
Chris Weitz
[29:34]
You might think that he's in Thor, which he's not, though.
[29:38]
No, no, no.
Elliott Kalan
[29:39]
That's true.
[29:40]
There's only so many names that rhyme with Thor.
Dan McCoy
[29:42]
Is there a 5 Clive rhyme in there at any point?
Elliott Kalan
[29:46]
Well, was there a Lethal Weapon 5?
Dan McCoy
[29:47]
I don't think so.
[29:49]
Didn't they make it a 5?
[29:50]
No, I guess they topped out.
[29:51]
I thought it only went up to 4.
[29:52]
Topped out of 4?
Stuart Wellington
[29:53]
Part 4 is the one with Jelly, right?
[29:55]
Yes.
[29:56]
And part 3 is the one with the cop killer bullets, right?
Elliott Kalan
[30:00]
I don't really remember 3 that well.
Chris Weitz
[30:03]
Which one is Diplomatic Immunity?
Elliott Kalan
[30:06]
That's Part 2.
[30:07]
That's Lethal Weapon 2.
Dan McCoy
[30:08]
There's a proposed Lethal Weapon 5, but it's, you know.
Elliott Kalan
[30:11]
Oh, but they said no at the altar.
[30:13]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[30:14]
Wow, they waited all the way to the altar.
[30:16]
So they agreed to the proposal, and they waited for the wedding to be planned.
[30:20]
There, they got engaged.
[30:22]
Yeah.
[30:22]
Oh, wow.
[30:23]
That makes, that's too bad.
[30:24]
That happens.
[30:26]
I think it's a loose cannon.
[30:27]
Yeah, that's true.
[30:29]
Okay, so I feel like, do we have any more thoughts on fruit as dessert, guys?
[30:34]
Because all this movie talk has me hankering to do Chapter 3.
[30:39]
That's right.
[30:39]
We're talking fruit on film, where the real star of the show is fruit.
Elliott Kalan
[30:46]
Okay.
[30:47]
Did you spell real, R-E-E-E-L?
[30:49]
Yes.
[30:50]
Oh, good.
[30:53]
That's helpful to know.
[30:54]
Obviously, obviously, one of my favorite movies.
[30:57]
This is our appeal to real department.
[30:59]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[31:00]
One of my favorite movies also features one of my favorite uses of fruit in a movie.
[31:05]
That's right.
[31:06]
The scene in Call Me By Your Name, where old Timmy Chalamet just jizzes all over that peach that's nuts.
[31:15]
Yeah.
[31:16]
You mentioned nuts again.
[31:17]
It's bonkers.
Chris Weitz
[31:18]
I was trying to do a bit of research into fruit in the movie.
Stuart Wellington
[31:23]
With going on almost no information for me, so I'm impressed.
Chris Weitz
[31:27]
And actually, one of the fruit moments I remembered was from Call Me By Your Name.
[31:35]
And I think, okay, is it wrong to say it's a bit gross?
[31:40]
Whether you're straight or gay or whatever, that when Army Hammer eats the fruit which has been jizzed into it, that's a bit gross?
Stuart Wellington
[31:50]
I mean, I think it's a little – I feel like it's a little intense.
[31:54]
Like, I don't know.
[31:54]
I'm not going to kink shame anyone, but the idea of that you're – yeah.
[31:59]
At this point, I think it's like any piece of food that has been fucked and then eaten is a little interesting.
Chris Weitz
[32:07]
And actually, for me to say that is actually ridiculous.
[32:09]
I have to take it back because, of course, my career was made on fruit being –
Elliott Kalan
[32:17]
You have intimate professional knowledge of jizz inside of a fruit-based dessert.
Dan McCoy
[32:22]
And again, I have to say, Chris, I don't – whoever told you that about pie versus sexual intercourse, I don't understand.
Chris Weitz
[32:31]
Okay, not for the first time in my life, may I say, that I did not write the script of American Pie.
[32:38]
I don't know.
[32:38]
And so.
Elliott Kalan
[32:39]
You did write the naked mile though, right?
[32:45]
I was just trying to –
Chris Weitz
[32:47]
I live my life a naked quarter mile at a time.
Elliott Kalan
[32:53]
The Jericho naked mile.
[32:55]
I imagine you were handed the script from – American Pie, the script was handed to you by the studio mogul.
[33:00]
He goes, Chris, I got your next assignment right here.
[33:02]
And you're reading through it and you go, but boss, but boss, a vagina is nothing like a hot apple pie.
[33:07]
Yeah, yeah.
[33:07]
I thought it was like –
[33:07]
We're giving wrong information to the youth of America.
Stuart Wellington
[33:10]
I thought it was like how Moses went up and came back with the script for American Pie.
Elliott Kalan
[33:16]
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[33:17]
And he came back and –
Elliott Kalan
[33:17]
And he came back and –
[33:17]
And he came back and –
Elliott Kalan
[33:17]
And he came back and –
[33:18]
And he came back and –
[33:18]
It was handed to me from on high.
[33:20]
The Israelites were all having sex with a golden cow.
[33:23]
And he said, no, no, guys, it's a pie.
[33:25]
We got to use a pie.
[33:26]
It's a golden apple pie.
Chris Weitz
[33:27]
My brother and I were just trying to deliver on the premise, you know.
[33:30]
And so if there was going to be a scene in which a boy has sex with a pie, we were going to make it the best damn version of it we could.
Elliott Kalan
[33:36]
I mean, you have to include that scene because otherwise the name of the movie makes no sense.
Chris Weitz
[33:41]
Well, actually, up until pretty late in the process, the studio wanted to call it Comfort Food.
Elliott Kalan
[33:48]
That's a terrible name.
[33:49]
It's a pretty bad name, yeah.
[33:51]
That's terrible.
[33:52]
It doesn't even tell you what country it's from.
[33:56]
Now, here's the thing about that call me by your name thing.
[33:58]
Again, I've stated I don't like fruit.
[34:00]
I don't enjoy it.
[34:01]
Not that way.
[34:02]
I've never eaten semen.
[34:05]
But the fact that it is closer to meat makes that fruit a little bit more attractive to me.
[34:10]
I've got to be honest.
[34:11]
I'd rather eat an animal product of some kind.
[34:14]
Yeah, you heard of your first, folks.
[34:16]
Yeah.
[34:17]
This is the kind of – we're talking fruit after dark.
[34:21]
This is the kind of hot talk we can get into.
[34:22]
Yeah.
[34:23]
Now, was there ever any argument with the studio, Chris, about what kind of pie it was going to be?
Chris Weitz
[34:28]
Never.
[34:29]
Actually, that's one of the – no, that was never a problem.
[34:31]
There were – eventually with the –
Stuart Wellington
[34:33]
America's apple farmers were lobbying hard that it be an apple pie.
Elliott Kalan
[34:38]
Well, everyone was thinking about how with E.T.
[34:40]
They should have used M&Ms, but instead it was Reese's Pieces for various reasons.
[34:44]
So I imagine there was a big fight over, yeah, what kind of pie, you know, who's – what's still going to be the one that's iconic.
[34:49]
Yep.
[34:50]
If you use a meat pie, it kind of defeats the purpose.
[34:53]
It's not a joke at that point.
Chris Weitz
[34:54]
Well, there was a big pitch from Big Strawberry and Big Rhubarb that came in together.
[35:00]
Yeah, yeah.
[35:01]
A perfect pair.
Elliott Kalan
[35:03]
And then the key lime people came in.
[35:06]
They said, hey, what do we have to do to make this a key lime pie?
[35:10]
We're just going to leave this briefcase of money and pies on the table.
Dan McCoy
[35:13]
Sounds like such an acidic pie to try and have –
Stuart Wellington
[35:16]
It took me a long time to figure out that like a key lime is a specific thing.
[35:22]
Like it wasn't like –
[35:23]
Yeah.
[35:24]
That like it was a lime pie that was key.
[35:27]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[35:28]
As a kid, I assumed the same thing, yeah.
[35:30]
There was a certain kind of lime pie.
[35:32]
That was a certain kind of lime.
[35:33]
Well, that was –
Dan McCoy
[35:33]
Yeah, back in the 70s, they had key lime pie.
[35:36]
I mean, this works.
[35:38]
Everyone brought a pie.
[35:39]
Everyone would get the key in.
[35:40]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[35:41]
If you ate –
[35:42]
You had to put your key in a pie.
[35:44]
Yeah.
[35:44]
And then everyone would pull keys out of the pie and the key –
[35:46]
And then you'd wash the keys because it was disgusting.
[35:49]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[35:49]
And then Elijah Wood gets hit with a lightning bolt or something, right?
[35:53]
That's what happens.
[35:54]
Yeah.
[35:54]
That's what happens.
[35:56]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[35:58]
Exactly.
[35:59]
I'm just telling you what I saw in the movies.
[36:01]
And this is fruit on film.
[36:03]
That's what we're talking about.
Elliott Kalan
[36:04]
That's why for the rest of the movie, he has magnetic powers.
[36:08]
He's like, Ernest goes to jail, right?
[36:11]
That's the one where he gets –
[36:11]
Ernest goes to jail.
[36:12]
Yeah.
[36:12]
Yeah.
[36:13]
But that's the one where he gets magnetic powers from electricity.
[36:15]
Yeah.
[36:15]
What a good movie.
[36:16]
Not – as opposed to Ernest goes to American Pie, the one where Ernest has sex with the pie.
[36:20]
He gets –
[36:21]
I wouldn't put it past him.
[36:23]
He keeps saying, feels like a vagina.
[36:24]
You know what I mean, Vern?
[36:25]
Okay.
Stuart Wellington
[36:30]
So that's been Fruit on Film.
[36:31]
Any more favorite fruits in the movies?
Elliott Kalan
[36:35]
I was going to – I wanted to give a shout out to the classic moment in Public Enemy.
[36:39]
Thank you.
[36:39]
Where James Cagney shoves a grapefruit into – I think it's May Clark's face.
[36:43]
I could be wrong about that.
[36:44]
And, you know, it was a very famous moment for a long time.
[36:47]
And as a kid, I didn't – or as a kid.
[36:49]
As a teenager when I saw that, I didn't realize because I don't like fruit how much that would hurt because it's, again, acidic.
[36:54]
Quite acidic.
[36:54]
It's an acidic fruit.
[36:55]
It would have been really painful.
[36:57]
Not as painful as the hot coffee to the face from The Big Heat, a different gangster movie from about 20 years later, but still really painful.
[37:05]
So James Cagney, I don't like that you did that.
[37:08]
I know it's a fictional character that did it, and the whole point was that he's a mean man, but still.
Chris Weitz
[37:12]
I had a Fruit on Film thing, which was oranges.
[37:15]
Yes, please.
[37:15]
Oranges and the Godfather.
[37:18]
Oh, yeah.
[37:18]
There's a lot of oranges.
[37:19]
A sign of impending doom or weakness.
[37:21]
Yeah.
[37:22]
And Elliot, that must have really freaked you out when Marlon Brando uses some orange rind and puts it over his teeth.
[37:29]
It's disgusting.
Elliott Kalan
[37:30]
When he puts it in his mouth, it then goes, urgh, and then he dies.
[37:33]
And then he dies.
Elliott Kalan
[37:33]
And it's like, if I was doing that, I'd be like, take me away now so I can get away from this orange peel.
[37:38]
Kill me now.
[37:38]
Sure.
[37:39]
Yeah.
[37:39]
I don't want to – God, this is the moment.
[37:42]
But I always feel bad for that kid because he has to assume that he caused it to happen.
[37:46]
Oh, man.
[37:46]
So much therapy for that kid, right?
[37:48]
He doesn't seem bothered at the time, though.
[37:50]
You know, he's –
[37:52]
So do you think it was more the kid was like, justice has been done, a notorious mobster is finally taken from us?
Chris Weitz
[37:59]
He was – yeah, he was working for the FBI, I think.
Elliott Kalan
[38:02]
But yeah, it is – that's such a great movie.
[38:05]
That's such a great movie.
[38:05]
And I just wish he didn't put that orange peel in his mouth because I think it's so gross.
[38:09]
Everything else about that movie is nearly perfect.
Dan McCoy
[38:11]
The one flaw.
[38:13]
I think in terms of pure square footage, we got to mention that giant peach from James and the Giant Peach.
[38:20]
A fruit you can live in.
[38:21]
That's true.
[38:22]
And fly around.
[38:23]
Full of bugs.
[38:24]
I'm combining it with call me by your name in my mind.
Elliott Kalan
[38:28]
Well, if James was of a certain age, then that peach would have been filled with juice.
[38:33]
But I think he's not quite old enough yet.
[38:35]
I thought you were going to say, Dan, the tomatoes in Attack of the Killer tomatoes, those get pretty big after a certain point, right?
[38:43]
Yeah.
[38:43]
And that's technically a fruit?
[38:45]
Yeah.
[38:46]
Technically.
Dan McCoy
[38:46]
Not as big, I think, as – I mean, you know what?
[38:49]
I've never seen it.
[38:49]
I can't speak to –
Elliott Kalan
[38:50]
I mean, that giant peach is pretty giant.
[38:52]
That's why they mentioned it in the title.
[38:54]
So that people know going into it, they were like, we have to warn people how big this peach is or else they are going to be shocked.
[39:00]
We don't want people having heart attacks in the theater when they realize how big the peach is.
[39:04]
So we're changing the title from James and the Peach to James and the Giant Peach.
Stuart Wellington
[39:07]
It'll be like people being scared that the train is coming through the screen at them.
[39:11]
They're worried that the peach has actually reached that size.
Chris Weitz
[39:15]
James and the Peach doesn't really move books off shelves though.
[39:18]
No.
[39:18]
Yeah, that's true.
[39:19]
That's a good point.
Stuart Wellington
[39:20]
James and the regular style peach.
[39:22]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[39:23]
It's just like there's a guy named James out there being like, what?
[39:27]
This is just my regular day.
[39:29]
What do I need to read this book for?
[39:31]
It just had a peach.
Elliott Kalan
[39:31]
Well, that's the – I think Roald Dahl, he was like, James is what's going to sell the books.
[39:36]
People are going to wonder who this James character is.
[39:38]
Just listen to that name, James.
[39:39]
Oh, another fruit on film I've got to mention when Nicolas Cage says he can eat a peach for hours.
[39:45]
We don't see it happening.
[39:47]
But the image of it is gross.
Stuart Wellington
[39:52]
Oh, boy.
[39:54]
Gross?
[39:54]
I don't know.
[39:55]
It depends.
[39:56]
Yeah, I mean –
[39:57]
Dan, did you just say that you've never seen Attack of the Killer Tomatoes?
[40:00]
I've never seen Attack of the Killer Tomatoes.
[40:01]
Have you seen Return of the Attack of the Killer Tomatoes starring George Clooney?
[40:05]
I've not seen –
[40:05]
Dan's like, I did and I was so lost.
[40:08]
Yeah.
[40:09]
Yeah, it takes – yeah, you really got to understand the first film even though they do summarize it in the opening moments of Return of the Attack of the Killer Tomatoes.
Elliott Kalan
[40:16]
I tell people all the time, if you're going to watch Return of Attack of the Killer Tomatoes, you got to watch Attack of the Killer Tomatoes.
[40:20]
You got to watch WandaVision.
[40:21]
You got to watch some episodes of The Inhumans just to get some of that stuff there.
[40:24]
Yeah, that's too much.
Chris Weitz
[40:25]
But you got to watch The Two Tomatoes the second in the trilogy because, you know, like so you know which tomato is returning.
Stuart Wellington
[40:32]
Yeah, yeah, E-Tomato Tambien.
[40:35]
So, any more fruit on film, fellas?
Elliott Kalan
[40:40]
Is that that movie about two teenage boys and a tomato go on a journey of sexual discovery?
Stuart Wellington
[40:45]
Not unlike the plot of Return of the Attack of the Killer Tomatoes.
[40:50]
Yeah.
[40:52]
Okay.
[40:53]
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[43:53]
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Elliott Kalan
[44:49]
Yeah, Chicago is great.
[44:51]
I like going there.
[44:51]
Hey, guys.
[44:52]
Should we announce our big Chicago project?
[44:55]
What's that?
[44:56]
Sure.
[44:56]
We don't have one.
[44:57]
What should it be?
[44:58]
Oh.
[44:59]
Oh, I don't know.
[45:00]
We'll do a show there.
[45:01]
Reunite the band Chicago?
[45:03]
Yeah, maybe we'll do a show where we perform alongside Chicago, the band.
[45:07]
Let's talk about it.
[45:07]
I don't know how we would do that, but let's figure it out.
[45:09]
Hey, in the meantime, I have a Jumbotron that I can read.
[45:11]
Oh, okay.
[45:12]
Okay.
[45:12]
This is a jump message for Dylan Dawson, and the message is from Heather Robb.
[45:17]
And it says, hey, Dylan, happy only slightly belated anniversary.
[45:21]
Thanks for COVID marrying me and having a COVID child with me.
[45:25]
I know this is very corny, and I'm sorry to embarrass you in front of your friends, Dan, Elliot, and Stuart, but you will always and forever be a movie I kind of love.
[45:32]
Deal with it.
[45:33]
What a sweet message.
Dan McCoy
[45:34]
That's adorable.
[45:35]
She married a movie.
[45:37]
She married a movie.
[45:40]
That's the name of my movie.
[45:42]
So we married a movie?
[45:44]
Yeah, yeah.
[45:45]
So we bought a movie zoo.
[45:47]
And then married it.
[45:49]
All right.
[45:50]
That was a perfect ending.
[45:52]
To a perfect day.
S5
[45:57]
You're in a theater.
[45:59]
The lights go down.
[46:00]
You're about to get swept up by the characters and all their little details and interpersonal dramas.
[46:05]
You look at them and think, that person is so obviously in love with their best friend.
[46:09]
Wait, am I in love with my best friend?
[46:11]
That character's mom is so overbearing.
[46:13]
Why doesn't she just stand up to her?
[46:14]
Oh, God, do I need to stand up to my own mother?
[46:17]
If you've ever recognized yourself in a movie, then join me, Jordan Kruciola, for the podcast Feeling Seen.
[46:23]
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[46:30]
and comedian Hari Kondabolu on why Harold and Kumar was a depressingly important movie for Southeast Asians.
[46:37]
So join me every Thursday for the Feeling Seen podcast here on Maximum Fun.
S6
[46:42]
Video games.
[46:43]
Video games.
S7
[46:45]
Video games.
[46:46]
You like them?
S6
[46:47]
Maybe you wish you had more time for them.
[46:49]
Maybe you want to know the best ones to play.
[46:50]
Maybe you want to know what happens to Mario when he dies.
S7
[46:53]
In that case, you should check out Triple Click.
[46:55]
It's a podcast about video games.
S6
[46:58]
A podcast about video games?
[46:59]
But I don't have time for that.
[47:01]
Sure you do.
[47:02]
Once a week, kick back as three video game experts give you everything from critical takes on the hottest new releases,
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S7
[47:10]
to fascinating and sometimes weird stories about the games we love.
S6
[47:14]
Triple Click is hosted by me, Kirk Hamilton.
[47:17]
Me, Jason Schreier.
S7
[47:18]
And me, Maddie Myers.
S6
[47:19]
You can find Triple Click wherever you get your podcasts and listen at MaximumFun.org.
[47:24]
Bye.
[47:25]
And we're back.
Stuart Wellington
[47:28]
Thanks so much.
[47:29]
Thanks so much for supporting Fruit and Alts Forum, those sponsors.
[47:32]
So we're going to move on to Chapter 4.
[47:35]
That's right.
[47:36]
We're going to be talking about reversal of fortune.
[47:39]
You know, sometimes you're king of the world.
[47:41]
Sometimes you're down in the dumps.
[47:46]
There, there.
[47:47]
Was there –
[47:47]
No, I agree with that.
[47:48]
Yeah, high times, hard times.
[47:50]
When you were a child, Elliot, I'm assuming your parents forced you to eat fruit,
[47:54]
and that is what led you to hate all fruit of all kinds.
Elliott Kalan
[47:57]
It's possible.
[47:58]
I mean, I'm sure I ate fruit as a baby.
[48:00]
I don't really remember it well.
[48:02]
I've blocked out a lot of the years before I turned about three and a half,
[48:05]
I assume, because it was so traumatic to be eating that fruit.
[48:07]
I just don't remember what it was like when I was like a six-month-old.
[48:10]
I remember drinking a lot of apple juice and never really liking it.
[48:14]
Do you like other kinds of juice?
[48:17]
Bug juice?
[48:17]
Is Coca-Cola a juice?
[48:19]
Sure.
[48:21]
I like whiskey.
[48:24]
Is that a juice?
[48:25]
Mm-hmm.
[48:25]
Okay, that's fair then.
[48:27]
But other than that, I think pretty early on my parents understood that this one,
[48:32]
leave him alone because he is bad to the bone when it comes to fruit.
[48:36]
Okay.
[48:36]
Otherwise, a very conscientious young man.
Stuart Wellington
[48:38]
So you have not changed at all.
[48:40]
Now, when I was a kid, I was very –
Elliott Kalan
[48:43]
If anything, I've probably gotten more intolerant.
Stuart Wellington
[48:45]
Yeah.
[48:46]
Actually, no, that's not true.
[48:47]
That's not uncommon with people.
Elliott Kalan
[48:50]
That's true.
[48:51]
When I was young, I was real open-minded about fruit,
[48:53]
but once I started watching Fox News, it really made it difficult for me.
[48:56]
But I think – actually, I maybe have become more open-minded in that
[48:59]
if I see that an item on a menu mentions some kind of fruit,
[49:03]
I will check with my wife to see if she thinks that it's a major component.
[49:06]
If it's just there to add acid or something like that, that's okay.
[49:10]
Like, I don't like the taste of lemons, but I love cream spinach,
[49:13]
and pretty much all cream spinach has lemon juice in it.
[49:15]
I didn't know that.
[49:16]
So I had to come to terms with that, and I did.
[49:17]
Yeah.
[49:18]
Wow.
[49:18]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[49:19]
Wait, like lemon juice is an issue?
[49:22]
I mean, I guess lemon juices can be super acidic.
[49:25]
Now, so when you're watching –
Elliott Kalan
[49:26]
I mean, I don't like drinking lemonade.
[49:27]
I don't like citrus tastes.
Stuart Wellington
[49:29]
When you're watching like an episode of Top Chef
[49:32]
and anybody even mentions putting fruit in a dish,
[49:34]
you're like, fuck that.
[49:35]
You're out.
[49:36]
I hope they vote you off.
Elliott Kalan
[49:38]
You know what?
[49:39]
I say maybe I want to make sure it's the judge's decision.
[49:42]
It's why I do keep a bucket in front of me
[49:43]
so I can vomit into it whenever they mention fruit.
[49:45]
Yes.
[49:45]
Because I am a regular Top Chef viewer.
[49:47]
But there are a lot of times when they're like,
[49:48]
I made a – it's a chicken thigh with lard on,
[49:53]
and I'm like, oh, that sounds great.
[49:54]
And there's a pomegranate sauce, and I'll just go, forget it.
[49:57]
Not interested anymore.
[49:59]
Change the channel.
[50:00]
Mute.
[50:02]
Cancel the show.
Chris Weitz
[50:04]
Cancel cable subscription.
[50:06]
Burn that house.
[50:07]
I pick up the TV.
Elliott Kalan
[50:07]
I throw it out the window.
[50:09]
Yeah, I burn the house down.
[50:10]
I change my name.
[50:12]
Oh, awesome.
[50:13]
Ride the rails.
[50:14]
Yeah, I start Jack Reachering around the country
[50:16]
with nothing to my name but the clothes on my back
[50:18]
and one pair of underpants.
[50:19]
You would make the perfect Jack Reacher.
Stuart Wellington
[50:25]
For me, when I was a kid, I hated oranges and orange juice.
[50:31]
I think part of it was the acid.
[50:32]
Part of it was like the pulp and orange juice.
[50:35]
And at some point, I made up that I was –
[50:39]
I would tell people that I was allergic to oranges
[50:42]
to the point that like years later,
[50:45]
my mom thought I was allergic to oranges
[50:48]
because I just kept saying it.
[50:50]
But I eat oranges plenty now.
[50:52]
I have one almost every day.
Elliott Kalan
[50:54]
I think it was Goebbels who said,
[50:56]
if you repeat a lie long enough, it becomes the truth.
[50:58]
So that's what you did.
[50:58]
I learned from the best.
[51:02]
I'm going to –
Chris Weitz
[51:04]
I love the look on Stuart's face as he realizes.
[51:08]
I didn't even like making that joke.
[51:10]
Manufacturer of Goebbels baby formula.
Dan McCoy
[51:14]
I will say that I've grown fond of two fruits.
[51:20]
One that is not actually a fruit,
[51:23]
but people think of it as a fruit,
[51:24]
and one that is a fruit,
[51:26]
but people don't think of it as a fruit.
[51:28]
Wow.
Elliott Kalan
[51:28]
I feel like it's a riddle
[51:30]
that I have to answer to cross a bridge somewhere.
Dan McCoy
[51:33]
My mom always loved strawberries,
[51:36]
which are technically not fruits
[51:37]
because they're the seeds on the outside.
[51:38]
Because they're made out of straw.
Elliott Kalan
[51:40]
But it's all those things also where it's like,
[51:42]
who made that rule?
[51:43]
Nature didn't make that rule.
Chris Weitz
[51:44]
I don't know.
[51:45]
Does that mean that –
[51:46]
so what are they, vegetables?
[51:48]
I don't know.
[51:49]
They're freaks.
[51:49]
What the hell are they?
[51:50]
Strawberries are just freaks, yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[51:53]
It's like if a chicken was inside out.
[51:55]
That's what a strawberry is like.
Stuart Wellington
[51:56]
If they have their seeds on the outside,
[51:58]
then they're basically like fish, right?
[52:00]
Yes.
Dan McCoy
[52:01]
Yeah, it's a fish.
[52:02]
They're classified as a land fish.
[52:05]
It's not like I didn't like strawberries as a kid,
[52:07]
but my mom would be like,
[52:08]
mmm, strawberry.
[52:09]
Like it was the best treat in the world.
[52:11]
And now that I'm an adult
[52:12]
and I have to like, you know,
[52:14]
make reasonable choices with my life,
[52:17]
I much more understand how a minor thing
[52:21]
can feel like the best treat in the world.
[52:23]
Sure, yeah.
[52:24]
Just a little bit of joy
Elliott Kalan
[52:25]
in this horrible veil of tears
[52:27]
that we exist in.
[52:27]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[52:28]
But also, the other one is avocado,
[52:32]
which when I was a kid,
[52:34]
did nothing for me.
[52:35]
And then along the line,
[52:36]
I realized, I'm like,
[52:37]
oh, this is like the plant world's like butter
[52:39]
is basically what it is.
[52:41]
I stopped thinking of it
[52:42]
as like a vegetable or fruit
[52:45]
and started thinking of it as like,
[52:47]
this is a source of fat
[52:48]
that gets put on things.
Elliott Kalan
[52:49]
It's the first plant that saw the light
[52:51]
and was like,
[52:51]
I want to be like meat.
[52:53]
Meat's where it is.
[52:53]
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[52:54]
Now, it's interesting you mentioned strawberries.
[52:56]
I have a childhood,
[52:56]
I have a lot of childhood memories
[52:57]
about strawberries
[52:58]
because my family thought it was so much fun
[53:00]
to go strawberry picking in New Jersey.
[53:01]
There's a lot of strawberry patches.
[53:03]
They thought it was so much fun
[53:04]
to go strawberry picking
[53:05]
and they would not let me bring a book with me.
[53:07]
So I would just stand there
[53:09]
watching my family pick strawberries,
[53:11]
hating every moment of it
[53:12]
as I sweated in the sun.
[53:14]
And then they would be like,
[53:15]
isn't this fun?
[53:15]
And I would say, no.
[53:19]
It's very boring.
[53:23]
And there's a place near LA
[53:26]
called Underwood Farms
[53:29]
where you go and you pick fruit and stuff.
[53:31]
And my kids always want to go there.
[53:33]
And my wife is like,
[53:35]
yeah, we can go there.
[53:35]
And she turns to me and she goes,
[53:36]
I know this is triggering for you.
[53:39]
That's so funny that she says that.
Chris Weitz
[53:41]
This is like an M. Night Shyamalan origin story
[53:45]
of somebody, a supervillain.
[53:49]
Who hates fruit.
Stuart Wellington
[53:52]
They call me Mr. Strawberry.
[53:59]
Okay.
[54:00]
So, man, Chris,
[54:02]
do you have anything that you like now
[54:04]
that you hated as a kid or otherwise?
[54:06]
Well, first of all,
Chris Weitz
[54:06]
all these edge scenarios
[54:09]
of like avocados, cucumbers, strawberries,
[54:12]
are they vegetables?
[54:13]
Are they fruits?
[54:15]
It's freaking me out a little.
[54:16]
Yeah.
[54:17]
Yeah, I'm sorry.
[54:18]
I'm a bit turned around,
[54:19]
but mangoes.
[54:21]
Sorry that we've been living
[54:23]
in that liminal zone
[54:24]
of where we're not sure
[54:25]
if things are fruits or vegetables.
[54:26]
It's weird.
[54:27]
But mangoes,
[54:29]
I feel like I would have liked mangoes
[54:30]
if I'd known about them as a kid.
[54:32]
But I feel like mangoes
[54:33]
have really come to occupy
[54:35]
a pretty big role in my life now.
Stuart Wellington
[54:39]
They're a little fibrous,
[54:40]
but I feel like with mangoes,
[54:41]
it's really important for me
[54:42]
to get like a really good ripe one.
[54:44]
Good ripe one.
[54:45]
Like an unripe mango is a bummer.
Chris Weitz
[54:47]
An unripe mango is a bummer.
[54:51]
But also if you get like this,
[54:52]
the sort of Southeast Asian mangoes
[54:55]
or the South Asian mangoes,
[54:56]
like the smaller ones,
[54:58]
man, you're not looking at fiber.
[55:00]
There's custardy.
[55:02]
Okay.
[55:03]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[55:04]
It's good to know.
[55:04]
Chris, you're a well-traveled person.
Chris Weitz
[55:06]
Have you ever had durian?
[55:07]
I've never had durian.
[55:09]
I have read about it.
[55:11]
I have smelled it from a distance.
[55:13]
The stinkiest fruit in the world?
[55:13]
Yes.
[55:13]
Which is supposed to be like
[55:14]
eating custard in a bathroom.
Elliott Kalan
[55:17]
Yeah.
[55:18]
It's a big topic conversation in my house.
[55:21]
Every now and then,
[55:22]
my younger son will become obsessed
[55:23]
with the idea of eating
[55:24]
some specific fruit.
[55:26]
For a while,
[55:27]
he was demanding lychees.
[55:29]
And we didn't have any in the house
[55:30]
and he would throw tantrums.
[55:32]
And then eventually,
[55:32]
luckily,
[55:33]
I was able to go to a Vietnamese wedding
[55:34]
and went to a Vietnamese market
[55:37]
in California afterwards
[55:39]
and in the neighborhood
[55:40]
and could bring him lychey
[55:41]
and he had one and he said,
[55:42]
hmm, I like it.
[55:42]
And then he never talked about it ever again.
[55:44]
But durian is a constant question with him
[55:47]
and he talks about it all the time
[55:48]
and he always says,
[55:49]
I want to try it,
[55:49]
but not smell it.
[55:51]
And he thinks that's very funny.
[55:52]
That's pretty funny.
[55:52]
But I was wondering if it actually,
[55:54]
if it smells as bad as it's supposed to.
[55:55]
I've had it.
[55:57]
I mean.
Dan McCoy
[55:58]
Yeah, but I was asking Chris.
[55:59]
What?
[56:00]
But so Dan,
[56:01]
what was your experience with it?
[56:03]
Maybe ask someone
[56:04]
whose wife is from the Philippines.
[56:08]
That's a good point.
[56:09]
Fair enough.
Elliott Kalan
[56:10]
Okay, I'm just trying not to,
[56:11]
I'm not trying not to stereotype
[56:12]
or, you know,
[56:14]
profiling me.
Dan McCoy
[56:15]
I had it at her family's place.
[56:18]
It's, I mean,
[56:19]
I would say that
[56:21]
Audrey told me the one that we had
[56:23]
was not a particularly good specimen of it.
[56:26]
It does taste a little funkier,
[56:31]
like people describe it,
[56:33]
you know,
[56:33]
being more like cheese adjacent,
[56:36]
custard adjacent,
[56:37]
like you said.
[56:39]
I was not wild about it.
[56:41]
It was,
[56:41]
it does,
[56:42]
it does taste better than it smells.
[56:43]
Like she talks about,
[56:45]
you know,
[56:45]
like if you cut it up,
[56:46]
like people would do,
[56:48]
definitely do it outside
[56:49]
or like they,
[56:50]
you know,
[56:50]
in the Philippines,
[56:51]
there's often,
[56:52]
like they have like an outdoor kitchen area
[56:54]
that,
[56:54]
that definitely would happen
Elliott Kalan
[56:56]
rather than indoors.
[56:58]
Do you hold your nose
[56:59]
while you eat it
[57:00]
or are you just,
[57:01]
like that bird you eat whole
[57:03]
and cover your face
[57:04]
while you eat it?
[57:05]
It's not,
[57:05]
out of shame
[57:06]
so God doesn't see you eating it?
Dan McCoy
[57:07]
The smell is,
[57:09]
the smell is kind of like,
[57:11]
let's say,
[57:13]
a middle school locker room
[57:14]
level of smell.
[57:16]
Like it's definitely a bad smell,
[57:17]
but it's not like
[57:18]
you're like,
[57:19]
your stomach is being turned
[57:21]
by like rotten garbage.
[57:22]
Yeah,
[57:23]
like,
Elliott Kalan
[57:23]
is it like Limburger cheese?
Dan McCoy
[57:25]
Yeah,
[57:26]
it's more along that zone,
Elliott Kalan
[57:28]
I would say.
[57:29]
Because I always,
[57:29]
I always imagined
[57:30]
that it smelled like,
[57:30]
like a rotting thing,
[57:32]
like something really disgusting.
Dan McCoy
[57:33]
I would,
[57:34]
no,
[57:34]
I wouldn't say that.
[57:35]
Oh.
Stuart Wellington
[57:35]
Okay,
[57:36]
well,
[57:36]
hey listeners,
[57:37]
if you have,
[57:37]
this is Durian talk.
Dan McCoy
[57:39]
If you also have Durian opinions,
Elliott Kalan
[57:41]
write in.
[57:43]
This is Durian Dan,
[57:44]
the Durian man,
[57:45]
getting his full,
Dan McCoy
[57:46]
unbiased opinions on Durian.
[57:49]
Listen to my spinoff podcast,
Elliott Kalan
[57:52]
Durian dancing.
Stuart Wellington
[57:55]
Nobody puts Durian in a corner
[57:56]
when Dan's around.
[57:58]
Yeah,
[57:59]
you need room for the airflow.
[58:01]
Okay,
[58:02]
so,
[58:02]
that of course means
[58:04]
this brings us to chapter five.
[58:06]
That is right.
[58:07]
I forgot there were five chapters.
[58:08]
This is the all time
[58:09]
top five favorite fruits.
[58:13]
That's five.
[58:15]
I'm going to be keeping a tally
[58:16]
and we're going to see
[58:17]
what is the,
[58:18]
which fruits get the most votes.
[58:22]
Elliot,
[58:22]
I feel like yours
[58:23]
is going to be pretty short.
[58:26]
Yeah,
[58:26]
I don't think I can fill out the five.
[58:28]
Okay,
[58:28]
so Elliot,
[58:29]
why don't we get these top five?
[58:31]
Sure,
[58:31]
let's put cucumbers and tomatoes.
[58:33]
Let me clarify.
[58:34]
Again,
[58:34]
this is based on
[58:35]
the categories.
[58:37]
Mouthfeel,
[58:38]
flavor,
[58:39]
ease of consumption,
[58:40]
appearance,
[58:41]
et cetera.
[58:42]
You're not rating them
[58:43]
on those scales,
[58:44]
but those are things
[58:44]
to keep in mind
[58:45]
when voting.
Elliott Kalan
[58:46]
Yeah,
[58:46]
so I'm going to start
[58:47]
with cucumbers and tomatoes.
[58:48]
They're as close
[58:49]
as you can get
[58:50]
to not being a fruit
[58:51]
and still be a fruit.
[58:52]
That's great.
[58:53]
I'm going to put
[58:53]
snozzberries on there
[58:55]
from Willy Wonka
[58:55]
because it's not real,
[58:56]
so I never have to eat it
[58:58]
or smell it
[58:58]
or handle it.
[58:59]
It's not a real fruit.
[59:02]
Yeah,
[59:02]
and then I think
[59:03]
I'm tapped out.
[59:03]
So I've got two extra slots
[59:05]
if anyone else wants to use them.
[59:06]
One, two, three.
[59:07]
Okay, wow.
[59:08]
Okay, cucumbers are number three.
[59:09]
Interesting.
[59:10]
Okay.
[59:10]
No, no, cucumbers
[59:11]
would be number one for me.
[59:12]
Okay.
[59:13]
Snozzberries are number three.
[59:14]
I wasn't counting down.
[59:15]
I wasn't counting.
[59:15]
I should have, but.
[59:16]
Cool.
Dan McCoy
[59:17]
Sorry, we got cucumbers,
[59:18]
snozzberries.
[59:18]
What was the third one?
[59:19]
I'm sorry.
[59:19]
I was busy writing my own letters.
[59:21]
Tomatoes.
[59:21]
Tomatoes.
[59:21]
You know what?
[59:22]
You know what?
Elliott Kalan
[59:22]
I'm going to put
[59:23]
are pumpkins a fruit
[59:24]
or are they a gourd?
[59:26]
They have seeds on the inside.
[59:28]
I believe they're a vegetable.
[59:29]
I don't know what the.
[59:30]
If it's a fruit,
[59:31]
I'm going to say pumpkins not to eat
[59:33]
because you can carve them up
[59:34]
and make a spooky face.
[59:35]
Put a candle in there.
[59:37]
Now, if I could do that
[59:38]
with more fruits.
[59:39]
Pumpkins not to eat.
[59:40]
Okay.
[59:40]
If I could carve a spooky face
[59:42]
onto more fruit,
[59:43]
maybe I'd like it more.
Stuart Wellington
[59:44]
Now, I'm going to call you out
[59:45]
on your bullshit this time, Elliot,
[59:47]
because you said that
[59:48]
you would like more fruit
[59:49]
to be used for spooky faces,
[59:51]
but in The Godfather,
[59:52]
you think that's terrible.
Elliott Kalan
[59:53]
Well, yeah, okay.
[59:55]
Not oranges.
[59:55]
Oranges are gross.
[59:56]
There's nothing.
[59:57]
There's a few things
[59:58]
that are more personally gross
[1:00:00]
to me than being
[1:00:01]
in like a work meeting
[1:00:02]
and someone decides
[1:00:03]
to eat an orange.
[1:00:04]
The smell, I don't like at all.
[1:00:05]
And then just seeing them
[1:00:06]
put a pile of gross peel
[1:00:09]
with little stringy things
[1:00:10]
falling off of it
[1:00:11]
onto like the table
[1:00:13]
that we're all sitting at
[1:00:14]
for the meeting,
[1:00:14]
it's just gross.
[1:00:15]
So you know what?
[1:00:16]
You're right.
[1:00:17]
You caught me in a contradiction there
[1:00:19]
and I totally own up to it
[1:00:20]
and I hope the voters
[1:00:21]
can see past it
[1:00:22]
when the election time
[1:00:24]
comes around in November.
[1:00:25]
But you're right.
[1:00:26]
I did not like the spooky face
[1:00:27]
that he used
[1:00:28]
that orange peel for.
[1:00:29]
We're going to do
Stuart Wellington
[1:00:30]
a quick side category, guys.
[1:00:32]
What is the snack food
[1:00:34]
you least like people
[1:00:36]
to enjoy in your presence?
[1:00:39]
Yeah, for me, it's oranges.
[1:00:41]
I'm going to follow Elliot up
[1:00:42]
because I have one
[1:00:43]
right on the tip of my dome.
[1:00:44]
That's right.
[1:00:45]
Does original recipe Cheerios.
[1:00:47]
No thank you.
[1:00:47]
Makes their breath smell.
[1:00:48]
Just smells bad.
[1:00:49]
Not a fan.
[1:00:50]
That's true.
[1:00:50]
It does smell.
[1:00:51]
Kids like it.
[1:00:51]
Get out of here.
[1:00:52]
I don't need kids around me.
[1:00:54]
Does gum count as a snack?
Dan McCoy
[1:00:56]
Yes.
[1:00:56]
I don't like the loud
[1:00:58]
chewing of gum around me.
[1:00:59]
Interesting.
Elliott Kalan
[1:01:00]
Is gum a snack?
[1:01:00]
It's more of an activity
[1:01:01]
for your mouth.
[1:01:02]
Yeah.
[1:01:03]
It's exercise.
[1:01:04]
You're not eating it.
[1:01:05]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[1:01:06]
Okay.
[1:01:06]
Well, then my least favorite
[1:01:07]
snack food is anything
[1:01:08]
that sounds like
[1:01:09]
someone's chewing gum.
[1:01:11]
Sure.
[1:01:11]
Okay.
Chris Weitz
[1:01:13]
I think for me,
[1:01:14]
it's nachos.
[1:01:17]
No, no.
[1:01:18]
Doritos, right?
[1:01:19]
But with the powdery stuff
[1:01:20]
that comes off on their fingers.
[1:01:22]
Oh, yeah.
[1:01:23]
It's not cool.
Stuart Wellington
[1:01:23]
Powdery Doritos.
[1:01:24]
Does that also include
[1:01:25]
like cheese doodles?
Elliott Kalan
[1:01:28]
But those are good.
[1:01:30]
I can understand that more readily.
[1:01:32]
Wow.
Stuart Wellington
[1:01:32]
I never,
Elliott Kalan
[1:01:33]
this is a big disagreement
[1:01:34]
between you and me
[1:01:35]
on the goodness of Doritos.
Stuart Wellington
[1:01:37]
Okay.
[1:01:37]
So,
[1:01:38]
I think it's Dan's turn.
[1:01:40]
Why don't you give us
[1:01:40]
your top five fruits?
[1:01:41]
Do you want to go
[1:01:42]
starting with five
[1:01:43]
or start with one, Dan?
[1:01:46]
What?
[1:01:47]
Wait.
Dan McCoy
[1:01:48]
Well, do you want to be,
[1:01:49]
I'm going to do a countdown
[1:01:50]
to build up the excitement
Chris Weitz
[1:01:52]
about what the number one.
[1:01:54]
Wait, I'm giving all of them
Dan McCoy
[1:01:55]
at the same time though
[1:01:56]
like Elliot did.
[1:01:56]
Yeah.
[1:01:58]
Okay.
[1:01:59]
I'm going to start with one.
[1:02:02]
I'm going to start
[1:02:03]
and I'm also going to specify
[1:02:06]
that this is just,
[1:02:08]
my ranking is top five fruits
[1:02:10]
of fruits that I would eat
[1:02:12]
on their own.
[1:02:14]
Like in a,
[1:02:15]
in a culinary sense,
[1:02:19]
like I probably use
[1:02:20]
limes the most often,
[1:02:22]
but,
[1:02:23]
but you know,
[1:02:24]
I'm not going to eat
[1:02:25]
a lime on its own.
[1:02:27]
Yeah.
[1:02:27]
That's like if people are like,
Elliott Kalan
[1:02:28]
what are your favorite foods?
[1:02:29]
And you're like,
[1:02:29]
salt.
[1:02:30]
I use it all the time.
Stuart Wellington
[1:02:31]
Although I do love the idea
[1:02:33]
of somebody just chomping down
[1:02:35]
on a fucking lime.
Elliott Kalan
[1:02:36]
That's something little kids
[1:02:38]
love to do.
[1:02:38]
Little kids love eating limes.
[1:02:40]
Bonkers.
[1:02:40]
Limes are so expensive
[1:02:42]
right now.
[1:02:46]
The kids don't know that.
[1:02:47]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[1:02:48]
Be glad that you don't eat
[1:02:49]
limes for your health.
[1:02:53]
Okay.
[1:02:54]
Top,
[1:02:54]
top one.
[1:02:55]
I have mango here.
[1:02:57]
Oh,
[1:02:57]
that's a good one.
[1:02:58]
Yeah.
[1:02:59]
Yeah.
[1:02:59]
I think I follow it up
[1:03:02]
with pineapple.
[1:03:04]
You get some fresh pineapple.
Elliott Kalan
[1:03:06]
You can spiral it.
[1:03:07]
Pretty fun.
Dan McCoy
[1:03:09]
We're moving into
[1:03:10]
my berry section here.
[1:03:15]
I put,
[1:03:16]
I,
[1:03:17]
you know,
[1:03:17]
I put strawberry up,
[1:03:19]
edging out the next one
[1:03:21]
on my list,
[1:03:21]
which is raspberry.
[1:03:22]
Those are very close.
[1:03:23]
Wow.
[1:03:25]
And then in,
[1:03:26]
Did you,
Elliott Kalan
[1:03:26]
did you dock raspberry
[1:03:27]
because it's spelled
[1:03:28]
raspberry,
[1:03:29]
which is weird?
[1:03:29]
that's could be.
Dan McCoy
[1:03:30]
I think,
[1:03:31]
you know what,
[1:03:32]
I,
[1:03:32]
I think I probably like
[1:03:33]
the flavor of a,
[1:03:34]
a really good raspberry
[1:03:35]
better than a strawberry,
[1:03:37]
but you get,
[1:03:37]
you know,
[1:03:38]
it's hard.
[1:03:39]
They,
[1:03:39]
they rot quicker.
[1:03:41]
They're smaller.
[1:03:42]
They're less,
[1:03:42]
you get less,
[1:03:43]
you know,
[1:03:44]
there's,
[1:03:44]
there's disadvantages
[1:03:45]
to a raspberry.
Elliott Kalan
[1:03:46]
I will say when,
[1:03:47]
when we get,
[1:03:47]
we,
[1:03:47]
we get a lot of fruit
[1:03:48]
in the house for,
[1:03:49]
for the children
[1:03:49]
and the raspberries,
[1:03:51]
yeah,
[1:03:51]
they have to eat them fast
[1:03:52]
or they just become,
[1:03:52]
just like liquid muck.
Dan McCoy
[1:03:55]
And,
[1:03:55]
number five,
[1:03:57]
we got a dark horse
[1:03:58]
in here.
[1:04:00]
No,
[1:04:00]
a horse is not a fruit,
Stuart Wellington
[1:04:01]
Dan.
[1:04:01]
A kiwi fruit.
[1:04:03]
Oh.
[1:04:03]
Kiwi.
[1:04:03]
Oh,
[1:04:04]
kiwi.
[1:04:06]
Okay,
[1:04:06]
Dan,
[1:04:07]
that's an impressive
[1:04:07]
top five.
[1:04:09]
Chris,
[1:04:09]
you're our guest.
[1:04:10]
You're the fruit brood
[1:04:11]
in this case.
[1:04:12]
Let's,
[1:04:12]
let's get your top five fruits.
Chris Weitz
[1:04:16]
Mango also,
[1:04:17]
this is a reverse order,
[1:04:18]
by the way,
[1:04:18]
reverse order to build up
[1:04:20]
tension and excitement.
[1:04:21]
Okay,
[1:04:21]
number five is Mango.
[1:04:23]
Number five,
[1:04:23]
Mango.
[1:04:26]
Because they're great.
[1:04:28]
Number,
[1:04:28]
wait,
[1:04:28]
I wrote them down.
[1:04:29]
That was Dan's number one,
[1:04:30]
I believe.
[1:04:32]
No,
[1:04:32]
oh wait,
[1:04:33]
no,
[1:04:33]
sorry.
[1:04:33]
Actually,
[1:04:34]
Mango is my,
[1:04:35]
Mango is my runner up.
[1:04:36]
But forget I said that,
[1:04:37]
okay?
[1:04:38]
Okay,
[1:04:38]
okay,
[1:04:39]
we'll forget.
[1:04:40]
So Mango didn't make it
[1:04:41]
on the list?
[1:04:41]
No,
[1:04:42]
it did,
[1:04:42]
it did.
[1:04:42]
It's this higher rank
[1:04:43]
than I thought.
[1:04:45]
Oh,
[1:04:45]
I see,
[1:04:45]
I see.
[1:04:46]
Number five,
[1:04:46]
blueberries.
[1:04:48]
Number four.
[1:04:49]
Lubes.
[1:04:50]
Number four,
[1:04:50]
figs.
[1:04:52]
Wow.
[1:04:53]
Number three,
[1:04:54]
watermelon.
[1:04:57]
Watermelon,
[1:04:57]
perfect.
[1:04:58]
Another favorite
[1:04:59]
in the Kaelin household.
[1:05:00]
Number,
[1:05:01]
number two,
[1:05:03]
number two,
[1:05:04]
Mango.
[1:05:05]
The aforementioned Mango,
[1:05:06]
moving up with a bullet.
[1:05:08]
Number one,
[1:05:10]
check this out.
[1:05:11]
Have you ever had a sapote?
[1:05:13]
No.
[1:05:15]
What's this?
[1:05:16]
I think that's indigenous
[1:05:17]
to Mexico,
[1:05:18]
but my grandma
[1:05:18]
had a sapote tree
[1:05:19]
in her backyard,
[1:05:20]
and that is very custardy
[1:05:23]
and delicious.
[1:05:24]
Imagine what you'd imagine
[1:05:26]
a durian would taste like,
[1:05:27]
but without a bad smell,
[1:05:28]
with a good smell.
[1:05:29]
Oh.
[1:05:29]
That's a sapote.
[1:05:32]
Look it up.
[1:05:33]
I'm looking at a picture.
[1:05:34]
Okay.
[1:05:35]
Yeah.
[1:05:35]
I realized I have some extra.
[1:05:36]
Looks kind of like a persimmon.
[1:05:38]
It does.
[1:05:39]
Yeah,
[1:05:39]
actually,
[1:05:40]
I think it could,
[1:05:40]
it might be a cousin
[1:05:41]
of a persimmon.
Stuart Wellington
[1:05:42]
What does a persimmon taste like?
[1:05:44]
Because I've only experienced persimmons
[1:05:46]
in the video game Sekiro,
[1:05:48]
which doesn't allow me
[1:05:49]
to actually taste them.
[1:05:50]
Mmm.
[1:05:52]
Not yet.
Elliott Kalan
[1:05:53]
Well,
[1:05:53]
it's kind of like
[1:05:53]
if you mixed a purse
[1:05:55]
with Bill Simmons.
Stuart Wellington
[1:05:56]
Interesting.
[1:05:57]
Okay,
[1:05:57]
sounds successful.
Chris Weitz
[1:05:59]
I'd say it tastes
[1:05:59]
a bit papaya-y,
[1:06:01]
but sometimes
[1:06:02]
there's a weird
[1:06:03]
kind of
[1:06:04]
acidic,
[1:06:08]
not acidic,
[1:06:08]
sort of bitter taste to it,
[1:06:10]
if you don't get one
[1:06:11]
that's just right.
Dan McCoy
[1:06:12]
If you cut it open,
[1:06:13]
it definitely looks
[1:06:14]
very papaya-y.
[1:06:16]
I don't,
[1:06:16]
I have no idea
[1:06:17]
what it's
[1:06:18]
related to.
[1:06:21]
You've just heard of it.
[1:06:22]
Yeah.
[1:06:24]
Sorry,
[1:06:24]
sorry that my
[1:06:25]
vast research
[1:06:26]
couldn't give us
[1:06:26]
all of the
[1:06:27]
information on this fruit.
Elliott Kalan
[1:06:29]
Can I add something
[1:06:29]
to my fruit list?
[1:06:31]
I think I still have
[1:06:31]
two slots.
[1:06:32]
Yeah,
Elliott Kalan
[1:06:32]
you got two slots.
Stuart Wellington
[1:06:33]
You have one slot
[1:06:34]
because you added pumpkins
[1:06:35]
that you can turn
[1:06:35]
into a death mask.
Elliott Kalan
[1:06:37]
For the last slot,
[1:06:38]
I'm going to say
[1:06:39]
the guys in the fruit costumes
[1:06:41]
in the old
[1:06:41]
Fruit of the Loom commercials.
[1:06:43]
I remember as a kid
[1:06:44]
thinking that was pretty funny.
[1:06:45]
Okay,
[1:06:46]
fruit.
[1:06:47]
So it's not to eat,
[1:06:48]
but to watch in a commercial.
Chris Weitz
[1:06:49]
They kind of cast
[1:06:49]
them as sort of
[1:06:50]
schlubby guys,
[1:06:51]
as I recall.
[1:06:52]
They were sort of like,
[1:06:53]
you know,
[1:06:54]
ordinary Joes
[1:06:55]
as fruits.
Elliott Kalan
[1:06:56]
You could imagine
[1:06:57]
them wearing the product.
[1:06:58]
They're not some
[1:06:59]
handsome male model
[1:07:00]
who's going to have
[1:07:00]
fancy underpants.
[1:07:01]
These are guys
[1:07:01]
who are going to wear
[1:07:02]
Fruit of the Loom underpants.
[1:07:03]
Right.
Stuart Wellington
[1:07:04]
Okay.
[1:07:06]
I'm going to say
[1:07:07]
my list is going to be
[1:07:07]
kind of boring, guys,
[1:07:08]
because I've already seen
[1:07:09]
some of these listed.
[1:07:10]
Number five is going to be
[1:07:11]
mangoes.
[1:07:12]
I love them.
[1:07:13]
When you find a good one,
[1:07:14]
it is great,
[1:07:14]
but I don't always have luck
[1:07:16]
finding good ones.
[1:07:18]
Yeah.
[1:07:19]
Next one is going to be
[1:07:21]
bananas.
[1:07:22]
I love bananas.
[1:07:24]
I eat a ton.
[1:07:26]
They're great.
[1:07:27]
I like them a little mushy.
[1:07:29]
I like them a little
[1:07:29]
not mushy.
[1:07:30]
Perfect.
[1:07:31]
And it comes with
[1:07:32]
its own wrapper.
[1:07:35]
Yep.
[1:07:36]
Thanks,
[1:07:37]
Kirk Cameron.
Elliott Kalan
[1:07:39]
Do you remember
[1:07:40]
there was that video
[1:07:41]
going around,
[1:07:42]
yeah,
[1:07:42]
where he's talking about
[1:07:42]
how a banana is designed
[1:07:44]
by God for you to eat it,
[1:07:45]
and the guy he's with
[1:07:46]
is like,
[1:07:46]
when you hold a banana,
Dan McCoy
[1:07:47]
it curves towards your mouth
Elliott Kalan
[1:07:49]
like it's telling you
[1:07:50]
to eat it.
[1:07:51]
Like a phone.
[1:07:51]
It's like,
[1:07:51]
well,
[1:07:51]
not if you hold it
[1:07:52]
the other way,
[1:07:53]
though.
[1:07:54]
If you hold it the other way,
[1:07:55]
it's like God's saying,
[1:07:56]
don't eat this.
[1:07:56]
I'm keeping it away
[1:07:57]
from your mouth.
[1:07:58]
It's just such a funny argument.
Stuart Wellington
[1:08:00]
Number three is
[1:08:01]
honeydew melon.
[1:08:04]
I love that shit.
[1:08:05]
Yeah,
[1:08:06]
that's a good one.
[1:08:07]
It's a great melon.
[1:08:08]
That's a good one.
[1:08:09]
Number two,
[1:08:11]
pears.
[1:08:13]
We haven't talked about
[1:08:14]
pears at all
[1:08:15]
this entire time.
[1:08:16]
I fucking love pears.
[1:08:18]
It's like the right
[1:08:18]
consistency for me.
[1:08:20]
The flavor profile
[1:08:22]
is a little more mellow
[1:08:23]
than like an apple.
[1:08:24]
It's not as sharp.
[1:08:25]
Big fan.
Elliott Kalan
[1:08:26]
And I like,
[1:08:27]
Stuart,
[1:08:27]
the little play on words
[1:08:28]
you did there
[1:08:29]
by making pears.
[1:08:30]
Number two.
Stuart Wellington
[1:08:31]
Nice.
[1:08:31]
Yep,
[1:08:31]
that was intentional.
[1:08:32]
Thank you for picking that up,
[1:08:33]
Elliot.
[1:08:34]
And then number one,
[1:08:35]
it's already been mentioned,
[1:08:36]
but I love watermelon.
[1:08:37]
I can't get enough.
[1:08:39]
Eat in chunks.
[1:08:40]
We currently,
[1:08:41]
at Hinterlands,
[1:08:42]
we just got a frozen drink machine.
[1:08:45]
And it's one of those like big multi,
[1:08:47]
like two hopper machines.
[1:08:49]
It's just constantly rotating
[1:08:50]
the slushy frozen cocktails.
[1:08:53]
One of them is a strawberry frozen margarita.
[1:08:56]
It's great.
[1:08:56]
But we put on a fresh watermelon frosé
[1:08:59]
that is actual like smashed up actual watermelon.
[1:09:03]
And it's delicious.
[1:09:04]
And so I spent the whole weekend
[1:09:06]
chopping watermelons.
[1:09:07]
And you know what?
[1:09:08]
For a lesser man and a lesser fruit,
[1:09:10]
I would hate watermelons,
[1:09:11]
but I love it.
[1:09:14]
I'm glad that you made it clear
[1:09:15]
that you're not a lesser man.
[1:09:16]
Feels like Heather to me.
[1:09:17]
So I wrote all this down,
[1:09:19]
but I don't actually like doing math
[1:09:21]
and I've had too many drinks.
[1:09:22]
So listeners at home,
[1:09:23]
why don't you do the math yourself
[1:09:24]
and figure out what's the top fruit?
[1:09:26]
Yeah,
[1:09:26]
that's a bit of interactive fun.
[1:09:29]
Have a little bit of fun.
[1:09:30]
It's that second screen experience
Chris Weitz
[1:09:32]
that people have been looking for.
[1:09:33]
It's like the play at home version
[1:09:35]
of the game show.
Dan McCoy
[1:09:37]
Go back and take notes
Stuart Wellington
[1:09:40]
because we didn't tell you.
[1:09:41]
We're feeling tension.
[1:09:42]
And then after you're done taking notes,
[1:09:44]
why don't you come up with your own top five
[1:09:46]
and tweet at Elliot Kalin
[1:09:49]
and let him know what your favorite fruits are.
[1:09:53]
And then Elliot,
[1:09:54]
if you come up with a good list,
[1:09:56]
Elliot might even respond
[1:09:57]
and tell you why your list is so great
[1:10:00]
and maybe write you a little poem.
[1:10:01]
And he'll take the...
Elliott Kalan
[1:10:02]
I don't know none of that.
[1:10:04]
If you,
[1:10:05]
so tweet at me
[1:10:06]
at Elliot Kalin,
[1:10:07]
E-L-L-I-O-T-T-K-A-L-I-N
[1:10:08]
with your fruit list
[1:10:09]
and I promise
[1:10:10]
I will tell you to stop.
Chris Weitz
[1:10:12]
But you were going to do
[1:10:13]
the fruit challenge for charity, right?
[1:10:15]
Where you eat the top five fruits.
Elliott Kalan
[1:10:19]
Yeah, you're going to eat
[1:10:19]
the top five fruits.
[1:10:21]
What?
[1:10:21]
This is literally,
[1:10:23]
if I ever thought,
[1:10:24]
I don't have the talent to,
[1:10:26]
I don't have the talent to be an actor,
[1:10:27]
but sometimes I'm like,
[1:10:28]
but if I was,
[1:10:29]
I might have to eat fruit in a scene.
[1:10:31]
I don't want to do that.
[1:10:32]
Like this.
[1:10:33]
How do I get out of that?
[1:10:34]
That's the only thing
[1:10:34]
that's been keeping,
Dan McCoy
[1:10:35]
keeping you from stardom.
[1:10:38]
Yeah.
[1:10:38]
The whole time.
[1:10:41]
Yeah, that's great.
[1:10:41]
It's like you'd be a great hockey goalie.
[1:10:45]
Right.
[1:10:45]
Except for all the diarrhea.
Elliott Kalan
[1:10:47]
It'll be unfair to the other teams too.
[1:10:49]
It was partly the diarrhea
[1:10:50]
and partly it'll be unfair
[1:10:51]
to the other teams
[1:10:52]
for me to bring that kind of power in.
Stuart Wellington
[1:10:54]
Guys, we've had a lot of fun tonight.
[1:10:56]
We've talked about a lot of fruit.
[1:10:57]
We've talked about a lot of fun tonight.
Elliott Kalan
[1:11:01]
We've Wang Chung tonight.
[1:11:03]
Yeah, everybody had fun tonight.
[1:11:04]
Whether or not,
[1:11:05]
listeners write in
[1:11:06]
and let us know
[1:11:06]
whether we achieved Wang Chung tonight.
Stuart Wellington
[1:11:11]
Any closing thoughts?
[1:11:12]
So wait, in that song,
Elliott Kalan
[1:11:13]
Wang Chung was just the name of the band, right?
[1:11:16]
Yes.
[1:11:16]
It wasn't a dance.
[1:11:17]
That's the band's name.
[1:11:18]
So when they say
[1:11:18]
everybody Wang Chung tonight,
[1:11:20]
what does that sentence mean?
Dan McCoy
[1:11:21]
They're inviting us all
[1:11:22]
to be part of their band.
[1:11:24]
Oh, well, I like that.
[1:11:25]
That's inclusive.
[1:11:25]
Did you get your class action suit
[1:11:27]
settlement for the money
[1:11:28]
from that song?
[1:11:30]
Yeah.
[1:11:31]
You're entitled to residuals.
Chris Weitz
[1:11:39]
Did that song get 20 cents?
Stuart Wellington
[1:11:43]
Did that song come out
[1:11:44]
before they did the score
[1:11:46]
for To Live and Die in LA?
[1:11:48]
I have to assume so.
[1:11:49]
So do you think
[1:11:50]
that William Friedkin's like,
[1:11:51]
since now I'm a member of Wang Chung,
[1:11:54]
if they do the score to my movie,
[1:11:56]
it'll be free.
[1:11:57]
Then if they win the Oscar,
[1:11:59]
I'll get one too.
[1:12:00]
I'll get an Oscar.
[1:12:01]
Finally.
[1:12:01]
Since I'm a member of the band.
Dan McCoy
[1:12:05]
That's the scheme.
[1:12:06]
That's a long time.
[1:12:07]
Didn't know.
[1:12:08]
Okay, so Dan.
Elliott Kalan
[1:12:09]
I think the movie
[1:12:10]
was originally called
[1:12:11]
To Live and Wang Chung in LA.
[1:12:13]
Mm-hmm.
[1:12:14]
What were you asking me for?
[1:12:15]
I was going to say,
[1:12:16]
do you have any final thoughts?
Stuart Wellington
[1:12:21]
You know what?
[1:12:22]
Bring it home.
Dan McCoy
[1:12:23]
I apologize to any fruits
[1:12:24]
that I overlooked
[1:12:25]
because there's a lot
[1:12:26]
of great ones out there.
[1:12:27]
Yeah.
[1:12:28]
Oh man,
[1:12:29]
that's so fancy,
[1:12:30]
but I'll take it.
Stuart Wellington
[1:12:32]
Elliot,
[1:12:32]
you're the descending voice
[1:12:33]
in this one.
[1:12:34]
Any final thoughts?
[1:12:36]
Closing thoughts?
Elliott Kalan
[1:12:37]
I do.
[1:12:38]
There is part of me
[1:12:39]
that the older I get
[1:12:40]
takes pleasure in
[1:12:41]
seeing other people
[1:12:42]
experience the variety
[1:12:43]
of fruit out there.
[1:12:45]
I'd be lying
[1:12:45]
if I said there wasn't
[1:12:46]
a part of me
[1:12:47]
that wishes
[1:12:47]
I didn't find fruit
[1:12:48]
disgusting
[1:12:49]
because it's definitely
[1:12:50]
closing me off
[1:12:51]
from a large part
[1:12:52]
of eating
[1:12:53]
and something
[1:12:53]
that's very healthy,
[1:12:54]
but I am what I am
[1:12:56]
as Popeye said
[1:12:57]
when he ate spinach,
[1:12:58]
a food I liked.
[1:13:00]
Not fruit.
[1:13:01]
I don't like it
[1:13:02]
and I think it's gross
[1:13:02]
and sticky
[1:13:03]
and I don't like
[1:13:04]
the smells,
[1:13:05]
textures,
[1:13:06]
mouthfeel,
[1:13:06]
taste,
[1:13:07]
or the way
[1:13:08]
it looks
[1:13:09]
to be honest.
[1:13:09]
So I apologize,
[1:13:11]
it's just baked
[1:13:11]
into me.
[1:13:12]
It's the way,
[1:13:12]
it's just where
[1:13:13]
I'm flung.
[1:13:13]
Like a pie.
[1:13:14]
You know?
[1:13:15]
Sure.
[1:13:16]
Like, yeah,
[1:13:16]
I want to look at a,
[1:13:17]
I want to look at a,
[1:13:18]
like one of the,
[1:13:19]
like a Blackberry
[1:13:21]
with all those weird
[1:13:22]
little hairs
[1:13:22]
coming out of it
[1:13:23]
and things like that.
[1:13:23]
No thank you.
[1:13:24]
No thank you, sir.
Stuart Wellington
[1:13:27]
Chris,
[1:13:28]
I think you got anything
[1:13:29]
to bring us home here?
[1:13:31]
I mean,
Chris Weitz
[1:13:32]
I just want to thank you
[1:13:34]
for asking me
[1:13:35]
along to this.
[1:13:37]
Oh,
[1:13:41]
we got a,
[1:13:41]
just happen to be here
[1:13:43]
message.
[1:13:43]
Okay.
Stuart Wellington
[1:13:48]
Yeah,
[1:13:49]
that's the,
[1:13:50]
yeah,
[1:13:50]
so,
[1:13:51]
I'm so glad
[1:13:53]
you could share
[1:13:55]
this with us.
Elliott Kalan
[1:13:57]
Glad we,
[1:13:57]
we could waste
[1:13:58]
your time
[1:13:59]
both as a guest
[1:13:59]
and then later
[1:14:00]
as a listener
[1:14:01]
when you listen
[1:14:01]
to the episode.
Chris Weitz
[1:14:03]
Well,
[1:14:03]
I mean,
[1:14:04]
the great thing is
[1:14:05]
I didn't have to
[1:14:06]
bathe the children,
[1:14:07]
so that was good.
[1:14:07]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[1:14:11]
Honey,
[1:14:12]
the kids need
[1:14:13]
to be bathed.
[1:14:14]
I have to learn
[1:14:15]
about fruit.
Elliott Kalan
[1:14:19]
I need to get
[1:14:19]
my top five together.
[1:14:21]
America needs to know.
[1:14:22]
I need the tightest
[1:14:23]
top five.
Stuart Wellington
[1:14:25]
Oh,
[1:14:25]
this is so much fun.
[1:14:27]
Oh,
[1:14:27]
God,
[1:14:28]
I love fucking
[1:14:28]
with you guys.
[1:14:32]
So,
[1:14:33]
for the Flophouse,
[1:14:34]
I've been Stuart Wellington.
[1:14:35]
Thank you so much.
[1:14:36]
We're on the MaxFun Network.
[1:14:37]
Our editor,
[1:14:38]
who will hopefully
[1:14:38]
piece this together
[1:14:39]
into something
[1:14:40]
that sounds great,
[1:14:42]
is Alex Smith.
[1:14:43]
You can find him
[1:14:44]
as Howell Doughty
[1:14:45]
on Twitter
[1:14:46]
and other places.
[1:14:49]
Yeah,
[1:14:49]
Chris,
[1:14:50]
you got anything
[1:14:50]
you want to plug?
Chris Weitz
[1:14:54]
Yes,
[1:14:55]
my movie,
[1:14:55]
which will be coming out
[1:14:57]
maybe in a year
[1:14:57]
and a half
[1:14:58]
once I'm done with it.
[1:15:00]
Yeah,
[1:15:01]
keep going.
[1:15:02]
So,
[1:15:02]
listen,
[1:15:03]
what you need to do
[1:15:04]
is set yourself
[1:15:04]
a calendar notification
[1:15:06]
for a year and a half
[1:15:08]
from now
[1:15:08]
and listen to it again
[1:15:10]
and then go see the movie,
[1:15:12]
which might still be
[1:15:13]
called Home
[1:15:14]
if I make it,
[1:15:15]
I don't get fired,
[1:15:17]
and they don't change
[1:15:18]
the name.
[1:15:19]
Okay.
Elliott Kalan
[1:15:19]
Should we still see it
[1:15:22]
if you get fired
[1:15:22]
and don't make it
[1:15:23]
and they change the name?
[1:15:24]
No,
[1:15:24]
absolutely not.
[1:15:26]
Yeah,
[1:15:26]
let's vote with our dollars
[1:15:27]
and say,
[1:15:28]
no whites,
[1:15:29]
no dice.
[1:15:29]
Yes,
[1:15:30]
that's right.
[1:15:30]
We're not going to see
[1:15:31]
this movie.
[1:15:32]
Okay,
[1:15:33]
so I've been
[1:15:34]
Stuart Wellington.
[1:15:35]
I've been Dan McCoy.
[1:15:37]
I've been Elliot Kalin,
[1:15:38]
also co-host
[1:15:39]
of the Who Was podcast,
[1:15:40]
a kid's quiz show
[1:15:41]
about history
[1:15:42]
that's on the iHeart Network
[1:15:43]
available wherever
[1:15:43]
podcasters are sold,
[1:15:45]
I was going to say,
[1:15:45]
wherever podcasts
[1:15:46]
are downloaded
[1:15:47]
in which we also have
[1:15:48]
an episode where I talk
[1:15:48]
about how I don't like
[1:15:49]
fruit.
[1:15:50]
So don't worry
[1:15:51]
that if you thought
[1:15:52]
I wasn't going to address
[1:15:53]
the issue on that,
[1:15:54]
the Who Was podcast.
[1:15:55]
And joining us has been
Chris Weitz
[1:15:56]
Chris Weitz.
[1:15:58]
No podcasts,
[1:16:00]
just a podcast guest,
[1:16:01]
but happy to be here.
Stuart Wellington
[1:16:03]
Bye.
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[1:16:09]
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[1:16:11]
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[1:16:12]
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Description
In which Stuart wastes the time of his friends and an Academy Award-nominated filmmaker by asking us all about our favorite fruits, a food Elliott hates.
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