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FH Mini 56 - Missed That Movie! Night of the Juggler
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So we were just talking about how the Star Wars TV shows are really making the case that
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what we thought was the universe of adventure and amazement is actually just roughly 30
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people who go to the same two planets over and over again.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Either we just started the episode or you're filling Alex in on what happened before we
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started recording.
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That's right.
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Hey, everybody.
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Welcome to the Flophouse.
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And tonight, I'm going to be taking the wheel of what's going to be a very wild ride.
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That's right.
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Joining me are Mr. Toad himself, Dan McCoy, and the weasel, Stuart Wellington.
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That's me.
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I'm a weasel.
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Do you like it?
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Callie Shore is here.
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He's got a bone to pick with you.
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Oh, shit.
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Okay.
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Is it the bone that Encino Man was carrying around because he's a caveman?
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It is the bone.
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Yeah.
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He keeps it as a lucky totem.
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And normally on the Flophouse, as you know, guys, guys, real quick, was Paulie Shore one
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of those comedians who got super jacked?
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Should I be frightened?
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Paulie Shore?
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Probably.
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I don't know.
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Actually, that's Dan.
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Can you do a Google search for Paulie Shore jacked question mark?
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I don't think so.
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But I will say that the boss of the thing I'm working at right now, a gentleman that
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Elliot and I both know, Josh Lee, was talking about how his friend got to know Carrot Top.
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And my main question was, did your friend know him for the transformation or was it
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afterwards?
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And unfortunately, it was afterwards.
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So I don't know.
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I have no backstage.
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Unfortunately, that seems like the most interesting time to know Carrot Top.
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No.
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Well, I want to know what I want to know what precipitated it.
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I want to know what he was going through.
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I say that, like, really probably, probably like me, your run of the mill midlife crisis.
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Yeah.
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Although there was it was around the time, I think, that Carrot Top was experimenting
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with props based on gamma radiation.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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His props are free weights.
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So anyway, this is the Flophouse.
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Normally on this podcast, we talk about a bad movie that we've just watched.
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But I said normally, I mean, half the time, the other half of the time, what we call the
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off weeks, we do these Flophouse mini manis.
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That's right.
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It's a Flophouse mini mani brought to you by Minnie's Bar and Maniac of New York, as
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well as the Who Was podcast on a heart radio co-hosted by me.
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Hey, kids, don't listen to this podcast.
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It's not appropriate for you.
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Listen to the Who Was podcast, wherever podcasts are available.
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So joining me again, as I said, are Dan, the D-man DeCoy.
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And it was DeCoy because I wanted three D's in a row.
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And Stu, the S-man Swellington.
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And we're here.
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We're here.
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I was looking forward to what Elliot was going to introduce me.
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You know what?
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I was just going to do it the same way.
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Did not disappoint.
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Thanks.
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Yeah.
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He is swelling by the day.
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Muscles wise.
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Muscles wise.
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If I know anyone who's swelling, it's you.
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And sometimes boner wise.
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Possibly.
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You don't need to.
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I haven't seen someone swell like this since Violet Beauregard chewed the wrong piece of
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gum back at the old Wonka factory.
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We all know how that turned out.
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What about the Santa Claus?
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They fished her body out of the river.
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So do you think, so you, you, my, my younger son is obsessed with Willy Wonka right now.
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All those kids, all those kids just had their bodies disposed right after Wonka ruined them
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in the factory.
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I mean, I think the movie played, you know, I mean the movie and the story, the, the original
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round ball story.
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They all show up at the end and they're alive and they walk home.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Cause like it does play.
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There are certain ones where you could plausibly think like, yeah, they survived somehow.
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They embiggened Mike TV out Augustus.
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He's the one that I'm most worried about Veruca since she falls down, up, down a pipe that
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leads to an incinerator.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's possible it's, it's not on today though, but anyway, uh, guys, we're not here
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to talk about Willy Wonka right now.
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We are here to talk about a movie I watched.
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Wait a minute.
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Is this a regular episode of the flop house?
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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This is a mini Manny, which means it's time for missed that movie.
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The semi regular mini segment where one of us tells the other two about a movie we watched
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and they decide, did they want to miss the movie?
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Did they, are they bad?
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Are they hissing that they missed the movie?
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I don't remember what our ratings are.
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Yeah, it's true.
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You got, you're the keeper of these ratings.
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I think, uh, was it, we should have missed that movie was, uh, would have missed that
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movie or could have not missed it.
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Are you glad you missed it?
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Sad to miss it or had to not miss it.
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Oh yeah.
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Hell yeah.
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So tonight I'm talking, how do I not remember those incredibly accurate categories?
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Yeah.
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I mean, to be a bear, they're better categories than spookily scarifying or whatever the,
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no, those aren't, those are the made up ones that Stewart says for Shocktober, uh, all
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movie ratings are made up, Dan, just like all movies are made up.
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There's no naturally occurring organic movie rating system that grows out of the ground.
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What about this movie that I have in a perfect crystal?
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Oh, okay.
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I found it growing out outside.
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It's one of nature's miracles.
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Uh, so Dan, Stu, maybe you've seen this movie.
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I don't know.
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Tonight I'm going to be talking about a film from 1980 Columbia pictures.
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Year I was born.
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The year you were born.
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Uh, Dan born a different year.
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Me also born a different year, but around that time.
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And uh, it's a film called Night of the Juggler and this stars James Brolin and it is a, uh,
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it comes out in 1980, but it was shot in 1978 and it is very much a seventies, scuzzy
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New York crime, semi-exploitation, uh, gritty thriller.
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So guys, let me tell you a little bit before we get into the plot about night of the juggler.
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Okay.
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One, there is no juggling in the movie.
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I'm sorry to break it to you.
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And on top of that, first question on top of that, most of the movie takes place during
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the day.
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So it's an incredibly accurate title.
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Is it like, is it like everybody's looking back on that one night where there was a juggler?
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No, that would be a movie with a juggler.
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And at nighttime, this is the opposite.
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There's no juggler and it's during the daytime you're saying, oh, it's like a, it's a, it's
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a, people are sitting around wistfully remembering the time there was a juggler at night.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's the curious case of the juggler in the, in the nighttime.
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It's like in people under the stairs.
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I don't remember there actually being a scene where there were any people literally under
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stairs, but evil had two features, a lady under the stairs.
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So that should be called person under the stairs.
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I'm going to, I'm going to make the mildest of objections to you, Stuart, because I'll
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allow it.
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And I don't know what it is, but I'll allow it.
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The reason why this objection is so mild is I'm also basing this on my memory, but I think
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there were people directly under the stairs and the people under the stairs.
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Okay.
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Listeners.
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Is Stuart right?
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Or is Dan right?
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Or if you're the ghost of Wes Craven, haunts the wrong one of us.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I would love for him to haunt me.
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Yeah, man.
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Proof of life after death.
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I think you're thinking of, that's why I'm like, I don't know why everyone's scared of
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them.
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Stuart, I think you're thinking of the first Harry Potter movie in which there was a person
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under the stairs.
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Harry Potter who lived under the stairs.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And it was a metaphor for Reagan's poverty programs.
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I think.
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Anyway.
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So Night of the Juggler.
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This movie needed two directors.
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That's how tough it is.
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It was directed.
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Oh, like AI?
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Yes.
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Exactly.
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Well, I mean, AI has one director.
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It was based on, I guess, the notes that Stanley Kubrick left in between pages of a magazine
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he was reading on the toilet or something like that.
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And then Spielberg picked him up at the estate sale.
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So it started being directed by Sidney J. Fury, who you know is the director of The Ipcris
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File, Superman 4, most of the Iron Eagle series, and of course, the Rodney Dangerfield
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classic Ladybugs.
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And he, uh, I think the original version of Ladybugs had a lot more murder in it.
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So he actually was shooting the movie and he left it after a few weeks because James
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Brolin, it appeared he had broken his foot doing a stunt.
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And so Sidney Fury was like, I don't want to do this anymore.
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And he left and the producers sued him for breach of contract.
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He didn't come back.
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Did James Brolin break his foot kicking an Uruk-Hai helmet like Viggo Mortensen broke
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his foot in The Two Towers?
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No, there's actually no Uruk-Hai's in this movie, set as it is in late 70s New York.
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You're not selling this movie to me.
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Anyway, maybe it'll help you to know that it was...
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Lose two points.
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Maybe it'll help you know that the, uh, oh, I got to make up those points on the back
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end, that the man who took over the directing, Robert Butler, directed a previous Flophouse
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movie, The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes.
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He also did a lot of TV and he co-created Remington Steele.
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So that's, that's, that's why he's in the Hall of Fame.
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What's uh, throw me out, throw me the, the, the quick elevator pitch for Remington Steele.
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I don't think I recall.
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Remington Steele.
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Oh, you go.
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It's like, she's a lady detective, but she thinks people aren't going to take her seriously.
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So she hires a guy to play a fake detective and she's doing the real work and he's like
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the suave.
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Timothy Dalton is like the suave cover.
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Uh, wait, no, it's, uh, it's, it's Brosnan, Pierce Brosnan, I'm sorry.
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Yeah, I got my, I got my bonds mixed up, but that's like, yeah, that's kind of the joke
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of it where they're just like, who, uh, seems like a handsome globetrotting man of mystery.
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Let's get Pierce Brosnan, you know, because he's like, so he was so absurdly like he had
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that vibe and then they're like, let's do it for James Bond.
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And then it was like, no, too much, too much.
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James Bond's already that guy.
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It feels like too much when you put him on that.
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I think what they probably said is they said, who could be a king of France?
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Let's make him Remington Steele, who'd be like a long.
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who wants to kill a mermaid in a very loosely sketched-out ritual.
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Who could have a Thomas Crown affair?
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Steve McQueen? Well, who could have another Thomas Crown affair?
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Who could deal with Dante's Peak?
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Who could seduce a British gangster in a public pool in a very small role in the movie The Long Good Friday?
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Who could be a matador in a sort of a metaphorical way?
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He's not actually a matador in the movie.
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Mamma Mia! I've got it! Pierce Brosnan.
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Because he's in Mamma Mia, too.
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Anyway, so the screenplay of the movie, let me just tell you a little bit more and we'll get into the movie itself.
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It was written by two screenwriters, Rick Natkin, who you know best, Dan, for writing your favorite movie, Necessary Roughness.
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Oh, of course.
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Can't be harder than the delivery system.
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I watched that and I'm like, is this roughness necessary? No, but it's hilarious.
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Dan, the title clearly states the roughness is necessary.
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You've got to trust that a football with horns knows what's necessary.
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I watched fucking Major League so many times that when Necessary Roughness came out, I'm like, this is going to hit the same way.
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And you know what? It fucking didn't, and I was hurt.
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Oh, that's so sad. Really let you down.
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That's Unnecessary Roughness on your heart.
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And the other screenwriter was this guy, William W. Norton.
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He wrote a lot of Burt Reynolds movies like White Lightning and Gator.
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And then in the 80s, he went to –
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Wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.
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You're telling me that a guy who wrote for Burt Reynolds worked with a guy who wrote Necessary Roughness?
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How could they get along?
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Well, it's a good question because Norton seems like kind of a tough character.
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He went to jail in the 80s for running guns for the Irish National Liberation Army,
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which was made up of IRA guys who did not like the ceasefire and wanted to keep fighting.
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And he then moved to Nicaragua and killed a burglar who broke into his house.
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And he eventually lived in Cuba for a while before sneaking back into the United States.
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And according to the Wikipedia entry I read about him, he was nervous for years that the FBI was trying to get him until somebody called him up and was like, don't worry about it.
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No one cares about you. Just live your life.
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So it sounds like we're talking about some real-life political turmoil.
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Dan, let's hear your opinions on the Northern Ireland conflict.
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My opinions are uninformed, so I shouldn't give them.
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So this movie, it's very similar to the movie Kidnap starring Halle Berry, which was another flophouse.
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I believe it was starring an SUV featuring Halle Berry.
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It was starring like a town and country. That's true.
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But the movie was shot in 1978, not released until 1980, let me tell you.
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So by the time it was coming out, I think New York had – it was still – New York was still in the dumps.
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But it maybe wasn't as super bad as it had been. Let's start.
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It's New York. We begin with a man sitting next to Central Park waiting for his breakfast to arrive in an outdoor diner.
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When it arrives, he arranges the food on his plate into a smiley face and then dumps a ketchup bottle on top of it in an act of hostility.
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He gets up and leaves, does not eat it. So you know this guy is nuts.
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He has just ruined a perfectly good breakfast.
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So this – it turns out this is a crazy guy.
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He is – I use crazy not in a medical or diagnostic term just to describe a loosely sketched character in a 70s semi-exploitation movie.
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So he is staking out Central Park, hoping to kidnap a rich girl on her way to school.
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And the kidnapper is played by Cliff Gorman, who is an actor who won a Tony for playing Lenny Bruce in the play Lenny, which makes a lot of sense for this performance here because he's kind of playing what if Lenny was a madman as opposed to a self-destructive comedian.
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And you'll be interested to know Stu. He was in the original off-Broadway cast of The Boys in the Band.
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Oh, no shit.
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Anyway, I don't know why you'd be interested to know that.
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Then we're introduced to the main character, James Brolin.
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He's an ex-cop turned trucker, and he's one of these movie characters who's kind of a screw-up, but everyone in the neighborhood knows him and likes him.
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And he just wears jeans and a button-down flannel shirt, and he's got a beard, so he's super cool.
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He's down to earth.
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His ex-wife wants to take their daughter to live with her and her new husband in Connecticut.
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He doesn't like that.
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No, got to stay in the big city.
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It's a real over-the-top type scenario.
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It's his daughter's birthday, and he just returned home from a long-haul run, which leads me to wonder who was she staying with during this time because he just goes to his apartment.
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And she's there.
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She's just a kid, but it's her birthday, so he brought her some hot dogs.
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This was the 70s.
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It was different back then.
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That's true.
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It was different back then.
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He brought her some hot dogs and tickets to the ballet, and she's about 13, but somehow she keeps talking about how she's on a diet.
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And he's like, okay, let's jog to school then.
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It's a weird – it's very weird how much this character is talking about her diet at the beginning.
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And does he go jogging in jeans?
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You know it.
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He wears the same –
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Hell yeah.
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He got right off that truck in the same sweaty, ratty clothes and then wore them for the rest of the movie, never changing.
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I got to say, dudes that go to the gym and work out in, like, jeans and Timberlands, like, man, fucking A.
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That's some energy right there.
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Like dudes that are, like, doing full squats and everything in a pair of jeans, like, how are you doing this?
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I mean the jeans – yeah, certainly not in, like, a good – a pair of jeans with a good fit.
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Like I can see you doing squats in jeans that you shouldn't be wearing.
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You know what I mean?
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Well, they're just, like, there's too much space going on.
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Is it because they're turned around like crisscross?
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I'll tell you something.
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I spaced out.
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I spaced out earlier.
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Did you say that there's no juggling in this movie?
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There's no juggling in the movie, Dan.
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Oh, man.
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So in case you thought there was – he was a homicidal juggler who juggled knives.
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That's not what happens.
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Oh, but there is a Mandy Patinkin.
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Mandy – don't jump ahead, Dan.
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Why are you doing research on the movie?
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I'm not doing – I'm not – no plot.
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I just – I see the cast.
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Okay, we're about to get to Mandy Patinkin.
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So they're jogging to school.
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The kidnapper sees them, assumes that this girl is the rich daughter that he's – the rich person's daughter that he's trying to kidnap and grabs her.
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And James Brolin, he just chases after.
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And I'm not quite sure why this – I mean this guy is unhinged.
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He sees a girl in overalls jogging with a man who looks like a bum, and he's like, she must be rich.
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Time to pick her up.
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That must be her valet that – or her Batman that escorts her to school.
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And Brolin chases them, and there's a long chase sequence where he's chasing after the car.
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He almost manages to pull her out of the kidnapper's car.
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He jumps into a cab driven by Mandy Patinkin who is playing a Puerto Rican character or a character of some Latin, Hispanic derivation.
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And he's really going –
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As he is in The Princess Bride.
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But I guess The Princess Bride – well, he's playing a Spaniard in The Princess Bride.
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But he's – The Princess Bride is a – is such a storybook fairytale fantasy where this is supposed to be greedy New York.
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It's like The King's Daughter.
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Yeah, and you kind of wonder.
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You know they could have found an actual Puerto Rican person to play or a Cuban or Dominican, whatever ethnicity he's supposed to be.
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But instead they go with Mandy Patinkin, and he is really hamming it up.
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He hams it up like crazy, and James Brolin goes, that guy has kidnapped my daughter.
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And he goes, get in the car, and they just drive, and he keeps talking about how he should beat the – he's like so totally on board with James Brolin.
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He's beating up this guy right away, and he's like, oh, he must be a white guy.
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These perverts are always white guys.
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And he gives James Brolin a tire ironer and tells him to go beat the shit out of the kidnapper.
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And so anyway, this is a long chase.
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The kidnapper manages to escape, pulls the daughter onto the subway.
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Brolin jumps the turnstiles to follow them and gets arrested on the other end as if – and someone's like, we got a jumper, radio ahead, as if in New York in the 70s.
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They're really putting APBs out for turnstile jumpers.
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Sorry, guys.
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I was having trouble with my microphone for a moment.
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I hope that was – Alex, I hope that wasn't affecting anything before then.
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Now it seems to be doing fine.
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Pure gold.
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Perfect.
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Sorry.
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Uh-oh.
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Yeah, a lot of things were going crazy in the 70s.
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People were jumping out of movie screens.
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There was some in Times Square.
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There was a cricket in Central Park or something like that.
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Anyway, it was nuts.
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There was a Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court.
[18:19]
Yeah, that was one of the signs of New York's real collapse when that Connecticut Yankee showed up in King Arthur's Court.
[18:24]
Yeah, and there was also a kid in King Arthur's Court.
[18:26]
There was so much going on in King Arthur's Court.
[18:28]
And there's a kid who would be king?
[18:30]
There's a kid who would be king.
[18:32]
There was a rookie of the year.
[18:33]
Cyclical.
[18:34]
Yeah.
[18:35]
There was a Disney's The Kid?
[18:36]
It was so –
[18:37]
Yeah.
[18:38]
Well, there were angels in the outfield.
[18:39]
I know about that.
[18:40]
Yeah.
[18:41]
It was a rough time.
[18:42]
It was a rough time for New York.
[18:43]
So anyway, then we get a little comedy scene with a police lieutenant.
[18:47]
This police lieutenant, he's played by Richard Castellano.
[18:49]
He's famous as Take the Cannoli Clemenza from The Godfather, and he's really stressed out.
[18:55]
He's planning his daughter's wedding because cops in the movies, on the worst crime day, it's always their daughter's wedding or birthday.
[19:02]
Or something like that.
[19:03]
It's their anniversary they got to get home for.
[19:05]
He stops into a health food yogurt store, and he's like, what you got here?
[19:09]
Let me see.
[19:10]
My son-in-law, he wants me to invest in his yogurt business.
[19:13]
Chocolate.
[19:14]
You can't do anything wrong with chocolate.
[19:15]
Hey, this is pretty good.
[19:16]
How do you make it?
[19:17]
And the guy is like –
[19:18]
So –
[19:19]
The guy is like, yeah, well, you take the milk and you ferment it, and the microbes have got to be in there.
[19:22]
And he goes, microbes?
[19:23]
Blah.
[19:24]
Forget about it.
[19:25]
And walks out.
[19:26]
Anyway, that's the yogurt scene.
[19:27]
That's the famous yogurt scene.
[19:29]
So this – yeah, I wanted to ask about this.
[19:34]
You called it a health food yogurt store.
[19:37]
Yeah, it's health food yogurt.
[19:38]
Is it – I mean is it fully just yogurt though?
[19:41]
Is that the one item that is sold in the store?
[19:43]
No, no.
[19:44]
I think they have other stuff, but it's –
[19:45]
Or is it just general?
[19:46]
But yogurt is their signature dish.
[19:47]
This was back at a time when yogurt was not yet a thing everybody was eating.
[19:51]
This is like – yogurt is to the 70s as sushi was to the 80s where it was like if you were rich in a movie, you're eating sushi.
[20:00]
It's weird.
[20:00]
Or like hummus in the 90s.
[20:02]
Yes, exactly.
[20:03]
Hummus in the 90s.
[20:04]
What was it in the 2000s, Dan?
[20:05]
You're on the food scene.
[20:07]
Yeah, you're a food guy.
[20:09]
You're a food guy.
[20:10]
Creme fraiche.
[20:11]
Yeah, you're.
[20:12]
Yeah, ramps.
[20:14]
I do remember when everyone was talking
[20:15]
about ramps for some reason.
[20:16]
Do you remember there was-
[20:17]
Couldn't stop.
[20:18]
Like ramps in Guanciale?
[20:20]
Like, come on, get out of here.
[20:21]
There was this episode of Top Chef.
[20:23]
I mean, that sounds delicious.
[20:24]
This episode of Top Chef.
[20:24]
Yeah, it sounds amazing.
[20:25]
It's the perfect combo.
[20:26]
They were at the Union Square Farmer's Market
[20:28]
and they go, they have ramps?
[20:29]
They have ramps here?
[20:30]
And all the chefs are going crazy about ramps.
[20:31]
And me and my wife were like, what are ramps?
[20:33]
Like, what is this?
[20:34]
We had to look them up.
[20:35]
It was like, oh, it's a green.
[20:36]
Okay, that's all it is.
[20:38]
I'm looking up ramps and it just keeps giving me
[20:40]
screenshots of skate or die.
[20:43]
And then ride or die, Dan McCoy, the website.
[20:47]
Yeah.
[20:48]
So anyway, that's the famous yogurt scene.
[20:50]
Anyway, we're gonna see more of that lieutenant later.
[20:52]
He's one of our, he's the speaks truth to power guy
[20:56]
on the force, I guess.
[20:58]
Do we see the yogurt shop anymore?
[21:00]
No, the yogurt shop never comes back.
[21:02]
That's it.
[21:02]
Okay, I just wanted to clear that up.
[21:04]
Stuart's favorite character has left.
[21:06]
Yeah, sorry, there's no more yogurt.
[21:07]
There's no juggler.
[21:08]
There's only one scene of yogurt.
[21:10]
Apologize for that.
[21:11]
So the kidnapper, he takes a Brolin Sauter
[21:13]
to his neighborhood, which is this burned out part
[21:15]
of the South Bronx.
[21:16]
It's full of wreckage.
[21:17]
And he explains his reasoning behind this,
[21:19]
which is that he is super racist.
[21:21]
And it's just throwing around a lot of cancelable language.
[21:24]
And he's blaming everything on minorities
[21:26]
being shipped into his neighborhood by rich people
[21:28]
so they can destroy the neighborhood
[21:29]
and then buy up the buildings.
[21:31]
It's real great replacement theory stuff.
[21:33]
It's really horrible.
[21:34]
Does he at least do it in like a song,
[21:35]
like in West Side Story?
[21:36]
No, it's not a song so much as a rant
[21:39]
as he drags the girl through the real vacant
[21:42]
burned down lots of the South Bronx.
[21:44]
And that's what, there's something about these scenes
[21:46]
that is, it really gets across.
[21:49]
Maybe it's just one block that they were on
[21:50]
that they filmed all the shots on, I don't know.
[21:52]
I don't really know how badly torn apart that area was
[21:55]
at the time outside of the fiction of the movies
[21:57]
that have led me to believe
[21:58]
that it was just Bronx warriors all the time.
[22:00]
But the, it really looks like
[22:02]
they're in the middle of the apocalypse
[22:03]
that they're just walking through, you know,
[22:05]
lots of rubble and things like that.
[22:07]
And it makes me think, you know what, New York?
[22:11]
I'm glad that you're not like that anymore.
[22:12]
I love you, but you're bringing me down.
[22:14]
No, I'm glad that you're not full of vacant lots,
[22:16]
full of rubble as hard as it is to live there now.
[22:18]
And it's too expensive.
[22:19]
And the buildings they put up nowadays are,
[22:21]
let's face it, ugly.
[22:22]
They look like a combination of either college dorms
[22:24]
or the Fortress of Solitude.
[22:26]
And there's that whole Hudson Yards thing.
[22:28]
Don't even get me started on that.
[22:29]
Anyway, you know what, forget about it.
[22:31]
Yeah, you'd prefer unchecked gentrification
[22:33]
as opposed to, you know, a blasted landscape
[22:37]
run by street gangs.
[22:38]
And they can only be stopped by one man.
[22:40]
That's right, Dollman, played by Tim Thomerson.
[22:43]
A pint-sized intergalactic cop with a giant gun.
[22:46]
Is that what Dollman is about?
[22:49]
I mean, that's the first one.
[22:50]
The second one, he's versus the demonic toys.
[22:52]
But there was, I mean, we all remember the headlines
[22:55]
when it said, Ford to Dollman, drop dead.
[22:58]
And Dollman was the only thing standing
[22:59]
between New York and total collapse.
[23:01]
But you know what, in thinking about some
[23:04]
of the new buildings they've been putting up,
[23:05]
I kind of turned around on it.
[23:06]
So you know what, if it means they don't build
[23:09]
any more of that big, like, you know, the vessel,
[23:11]
the thing at the Hudson Yards that looks
[23:13]
like a hollow beehive, you know what,
[23:16]
let's tear parts of the city down,
[23:17]
if it means no more of those,
[23:18]
because I'm not a fan of that.
[23:19]
Or those buildings where, like,
[23:21]
the windows are all different colors.
[23:23]
I don't like those ones.
[23:24]
Oh, well, that sounds pretty.
[23:25]
I haven't seen any of those.
[23:25]
You mean like a church?
[23:27]
Well, yeah, I'm talking about stained glass, Stuart.
[23:31]
Beautiful stained glass, I hate it.
[23:35]
No, there's like weird, like, I don't know.
[23:35]
Trying to impress me with the majesty of God, blah.
[23:39]
There's like these, there's a couple of skyscrapers
[23:42]
that look kind of like 80s trapper keepers.
[23:44]
But what's- Cool.
[23:45]
Do they have a lot of, like, neon squiggles
[23:48]
and dinosaurs with sunglasses on them?
[23:51]
Yeah.
[23:52]
I love that shit.
[23:53]
And chicken nuggets on roller skates.
[23:54]
Chicken nuggets on roller skates?
[23:56]
Yes, I want to put my homework in that shit.
[23:59]
Yeah.
[24:01]
Sounds great.
[24:02]
Now I love, you know what, Dane, you turned me around.
[24:04]
Now I like gentrified New York again.
[24:05]
This has been a real roller coaster.
[24:06]
Anyway, he kidnapped, it turns out he kidnapped this girl
[24:10]
because he thought she was the daughter
[24:11]
of a rich real estate developer,
[24:12]
and he's going to ask her dad for a million dollars.
[24:16]
He takes her to his home after casually killing somebody,
[24:20]
and he talks for a long time
[24:21]
about how great his mom and dad were.
[24:23]
And he plays with this vicious looking dog
[24:25]
who never really enters into the story.
[24:27]
And later he dresses up the daughter
[24:28]
in his mom's old dress.
[24:29]
Real quick, real quick.
[24:30]
You said vicious looking dog.
[24:32]
Do you mean that the dog looks like Vicious,
[24:34]
the character from Cowboy Bebop?
[24:36]
I mean, he looks like Sid Vicious.
[24:37]
He's got like a safety pin through the ear
[24:42]
and he's thinking my way.
[24:44]
Yeah, all that stuff.
[24:46]
And he's heading toward an early death.
[24:49]
Yeah, exactly.
[24:51]
So this guy, he's turning out to be a real creep.
[24:55]
Dan, maybe this is a good place.
[24:57]
Speaking of creeps, Dan, would you like to be creepy
[25:02]
and introduce the ad for today?
[25:04]
Okay, I guess I will.
[25:05]
Why not?
[25:06]
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I'm going to pull it.
[25:11]
This isn't creepy at all.
[25:12]
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[25:15]
Dan, please tell us more.
[25:16]
I'll put this newspaper away with the headline story.
[25:20]
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[25:22]
You've probably heard about-
[25:23]
What newspaper was that?
[25:27]
High Times Daily?
[25:28]
Certainly not High Times.
[25:30]
Yeah, exactly.
[25:32]
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[25:34]
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[25:35]
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[25:40]
You don't have to search that hard.
[25:41]
There's a thing called Google.
[25:43]
You can use that.
[25:44]
Dan, what's this an ad for?
[25:45]
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[25:46]
All over the place.
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[27:21]
Um, hi, I'm looking for a movie.
[27:27]
Oh, I gotcha.
[27:28]
There's that new foreign film with the time travel.
[27:30]
There's an amazing documentary
[27:32]
about queer history on streaming.
[27:33]
Have I told you about this classic
[27:35]
where giant robots fight?
[27:37]
Or there's that one that most critics hated,
[27:38]
but I thought was actually pretty good.
[27:40]
Ooh, I know.
[27:42]
The one with the huge car chase,
[27:43]
and then there's that scene where
[27:45]
the car jumps over the submarine.
[27:48]
Wow, who are you eclectic movie experts?
[27:50]
Well, I'm Ify Wadiwak.
[27:51]
I'm Drea Clark.
[27:52]
And I'm Alonzo Duraldi.
[27:53]
And together, we host the movie podcast Maximum Film.
[27:56]
New episodes every week on MaximumFun.org.
[27:59]
And you actually just walked into our recording booth.
[28:02]
Oh, weird, sorry.
[28:03]
I thought this was a video store.
[28:05]
You seem like a lady with a lot of problems.
[28:09]
Do you sometimes wonder whatever happened
[28:11]
to the kids at your school who really loved Star Trek?
[28:13]
You might remember a kid like me,
[28:15]
the one who read the Star Trek novels
[28:17]
and built Starship models.
[28:19]
I also took music classes to avoid taking gym classes
[28:21]
that required showering after,
[28:23]
but I don't see what that really has to do with-
[28:25]
Or a kid like me.
[28:26]
I introduced myself to kids
[28:28]
at my summer camp one year as Wesley.
[28:30]
But when the school year started
[28:31]
and some of those kids were in my new class,
[28:33]
I actually had to explain to my friends
[28:35]
that I had tried to take on the identity
[28:37]
of my favorite Star Trek character.
[28:39]
The shame haunts me to this day.
[28:40]
I'm sure some of those Star Trek fans from your childhood
[28:43]
grew up to have interesting and productive lives,
[28:46]
but we ended up being podcasters.
[28:49]
On The Greatest Discovery, you'll hear what happens
[28:52]
to two lifelong Star Trek fans
[28:54]
who didn't grow up to be great people,
[28:55]
but just grew up to be people who love jokes
[28:57]
as much as they love Trek.
[28:59]
So listen to our new episodes every week
[29:01]
on MaximumFun.org or wherever you get your podcasts.
[29:05]
Thanks, let's get back to the chase, literally,
[29:08]
because during that big chase earlier,
[29:10]
James Brolin saw the kidnapper drop something
[29:12]
outside of a porno theater in Times Square.
[29:14]
That's right, it's 70s New York.
[29:16]
You can't escape, go into a peep show in Times Square.
[29:19]
So that's what he does, he goes there-
[29:20]
You can't escape it.
[29:21]
You can't escape it, you try.
[29:22]
That's what Escape from New York is about.
[29:24]
Snake Plissken is like, I don't wanna go to that.
[29:25]
I think they're gross, but he has to go there.
[29:27]
And you're like, well, you have such a suggestive name, sir.
[29:31]
But Ernest Borgdine drives him straight to one.
[29:33]
Hey, buddy, I know a place we're gonna have a good time.
[29:36]
And he's like, I don't wanna go here, I'm Snake.
[29:37]
Yeah, a guy named Snake and Plissken,
[29:39]
I don't know what it means, but it sounds doidy.
[29:41]
Anyway, go on in, I'm Ernest Borgdine, Academy Award winner.
[29:45]
I'm driving a cab in this prison city.
[29:47]
It's me, Marty.
[29:48]
It's me, Marty.
[29:50]
And then Michael J. Fox goes, me?
[29:51]
And he goes, no, no, no, that's a different Marty.
[29:54]
Yeah, it's very confusing.
[29:56]
When two characters from different movies
[29:58]
made 30 years apart have the same name.
[30:00]
It's very confusing.
[30:01]
So he goes to the theater, he has to get a bunch of, he has to find...
[30:05]
Do you think when they're making Back to the Future, they're like,
[30:07]
are you sure we should call him Marty?
[30:09]
Because there was a character also named Marty 30 years ago.
[30:12]
It's an Academy Award winning film.
[30:14]
Many people say, Marty, they're going to remember that movie,
[30:17]
remember it won an Academy Award, and leave immediately to go see that movie.
[30:22]
Thankfully, they locked all the doors to the theaters.
[30:25]
A big fire hazard.
[30:27]
Could have turned out badly, but you know...
[30:29]
You just assume the whole audience is gremlins, right?
[30:32]
Yeah.
[30:34]
That's what I always assume.
[30:36]
That's why I go to so few movies, because I'm like,
[30:38]
it's going to be full of gremlins.
[30:39]
Wait a minute, that would be great.
[30:40]
I should go.
[30:42]
When they're tearing you apart, you're like, thank God.
[30:46]
That's how I wanted to go.
[30:48]
So he saw a dancer outside of this theater pick up something that the kid never dropped.
[30:53]
So he goes there.
[30:54]
There's only one way to find this dancer.
[30:56]
Cash in his dollar for quarters and pump them into the peep show window.
[31:01]
And this is kind of a farcical scene where every time he puts in a quarter
[31:06]
and the steel door goes up to reveal the window into the room where naked women
[31:11]
are just kind of hanging around talking to Johns on the phone,
[31:14]
the wrong dancer keeps coming up to him.
[31:16]
And he's going, no, her over there.
[31:18]
Her over there.
[31:19]
And then the door goes down.
[31:20]
And he puts another quarter in and a different dancer comes by.
[31:22]
This is James Brolin.
[31:23]
He just can't catch a break.
[31:25]
First, his daughter gets kidnapped by a psychopath.
[31:27]
And then he just can't get the right woman's attention.
[31:30]
So he breaks into the room.
[31:32]
And here's one of the problems with James Brolin in this movie.
[31:35]
He rarely says things like my daughter was kidnapped.
[31:38]
I need your help.
[31:39]
He goes up to the to the state, keeps saying the strippers.
[31:41]
My little girl's been taken.
[31:43]
My little girl.
[31:44]
And they're like, I'll be your little girl.
[31:45]
And it's like to say daughter.
[31:46]
There's a word for it.
[31:47]
There's a word everyone knows.
[31:48]
That means the child that you are the dad of who's a girl.
[31:51]
It's daughter.
[31:52]
Well, the original screenplay was written by Abbott and Costello.
[31:56]
And they're a lot more misunderstanding.
[31:59]
I guess that makes sense.
[32:00]
Because by this point, Abbott and Costello were too old to perform.
[32:03]
So they were instead they were ghostwriting comedy routines for thriller movies.
[32:07]
Yeah.
[32:08]
And there would be scenes where someone was in the strip club where someone would be stripped behind Costello.
[32:14]
And he'd be like.
[32:16]
For those that don't want dance point behind him.
[32:19]
And he is.
[32:20]
He wanted Abbott to turn around.
[32:22]
He's too scared of the strippers.
[32:24]
I get it.
[32:25]
But Dan, Dan, it sounded like he was just hissing like a cat.
[32:28]
It sounded like I was hissing.
[32:29]
Yeah.
[32:30]
I turned into a cat person.
[32:31]
Or a snake person.
[32:33]
Well, that's like in that movie.
[32:35]
Abbott and Costello meet the cat people where Abbott turns into one of the cat people.
[32:40]
Written by Paul Schrader, right?
[32:43]
Yep.
[32:44]
Yep.
[32:45]
So here's the funny thing.
[32:46]
Right after heartbeats.
[32:47]
It's one of the first times when your Paul Schrader references have made sense, right?
[32:52]
Boom.
[32:53]
Mean Uncle Paul.
[32:55]
Wait, so he's your uncle?
[32:57]
Yeah, Mean Uncle Paul, yeah.
[33:01]
I just I want someday I want someone to miss I want this to get out there.
[33:05]
So that's in Paul Schrader's obituary.
[33:07]
It said like after direct after writing Taxi Driver and directing movies like Blue Collar and American Gigolo.
[33:14]
He took a turn to comedy for heartbeats before returning back for movie films like First Reformed.
[33:20]
There's some terrible editorial cartoon that's like, our heart is beeping in heaven now.
[33:28]
I thought I wasn't even going to be that imaginative.
[33:30]
I thought he was just at the pearly gates and St. Peter goes, welcome in, Mr. Schrader.
[33:33]
I loved heartbeats.
[33:35]
Yeah, exactly.
[33:37]
So that's one of Stuart's urban legends.
[33:39]
You can trace it right back to Stuart that Paul Schrader ate heartbeats.
[33:42]
Anyway, he finally, you know, this fucking dude, you know, that dude is going to be fucking around on Facebook one of these days and come across this shit.
[33:49]
And he's going to be he's going to be so mad.
[33:51]
He'll close the browser where he's getting kicked out of an online poker game.
[33:59]
So James Brolin, he breaks into the room where the dancers are and he gets beaten up by the bouncers.
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But the dancer he just wanted to talk to gives him what the kidnapper dropped.
[34:07]
It's some sort of a dog medal.
[34:09]
The kidnapper, he calls the mom of the rich girl he thinks he's kidnapped.
[34:12]
What's a dog medal?
[34:14]
You know, like a dog tag.
[34:16]
But I think they call it a dog medal in the movie.
[34:19]
Because of copyright or something?
[34:21]
Yeah, because dog tags is a trademark.
[34:25]
Yeah, I mean, well, dog medal just sounds like an award that you got for being the best dog or saving other dogs in combat or whatever, you know.
[34:35]
Or it sounds like a super cool wrestler name, dog medal.
[34:38]
Dog medal sounds pretty cool, Dan.
[34:40]
So dog medal is a it's a strain of metal music in which they just have dog sounds instead of guitar.
[34:48]
That already sounds.
[34:50]
Wait, no, there's no guitar at all.
[34:52]
They just use dogs for both melody and harmony.
[34:55]
Yes.
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Different dogs.
[34:57]
There's lead dog and there's bass dog.
[34:59]
And instead of drums, it's it's cats.
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And you'll never guess what the lead singer is.
[35:08]
I guess.
[35:09]
Should I guess?
[35:10]
Are you waiting for me to guess?
[35:11]
You'll never guess.
[35:12]
Just try it.
[35:13]
You'll never guess.
[35:14]
Is that a is it Sebastian Bach from Skid Row?
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Oh, you guessed it.
[35:19]
OK, yeah, it is Sebastian Bach from Skid Row.
[35:21]
I said you'd never guess it, but it was the first one.
[35:23]
Yeah, you know, I'm good at games.
[35:25]
Yeah.
[35:26]
So Sebastian Bach from Skid Row, he was on Broadway for a little while and then he started up a new project called Dog Medal.
[35:31]
It's him and some dogs and cats.
[35:33]
Gilmore Girls, obviously.
[35:34]
Obviously.
[35:36]
He was in fucking Gilmore Girls.
[35:38]
I'm not making that up.
[35:39]
No, it's no.
[35:40]
But your use of the of the.
[35:41]
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[35:42]
Now, he was he was part of Lane's band.
[35:44]
Now, I say obviously, because I know that there's a lot of fans of Stars Hollow listening to this podcast right now.
[35:49]
And they're like, why don't you talk about Sebastian Bach being Gilmore Girls earlier?
[35:53]
You're right.
[35:54]
That's true.
[35:55]
They're all you know, they're all fans of the Gee-Gees and Paris and the rest of the gang.
[36:00]
None of the dudes.
[36:01]
There are no good dudes in that show.
[36:03]
Even I know that.
[36:04]
I know that.
[36:05]
I watch the show regularly.
[36:06]
OK, I've only seen a few episodes.
[36:07]
OK, so the kidnapper calls the rich girl's mom and is like, hey, give me a million dollars.
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I'll start chopping up your daughter and sending her to you in pieces.
[36:13]
The mom is justifiably confused because her daughter is right there in the room with her.
[36:18]
But she still calls the police because that's still a scary call to get.
[36:21]
Even if this person doesn't have your daughter, James Brolin.
[36:25]
At this point, I'm trying to I was I was not taking notes while watching the movie.
[36:28]
So I reconstructed this afterwards.
[36:31]
And a sympathetic cop lets him leave because to go get his daughter.
[36:35]
But just as he is escaping incognito, a doctor goes out.
[36:39]
His name is Boyd.
[36:40]
Doctor goes out.
[36:41]
Mr. Boyd, I found the cane that you asked for.
[36:43]
And the cops arrest him again.
[36:45]
Now, this takes place in New York.
[36:47]
So Mr. Boyd is a bird, right?
[36:49]
Yeah, I knew that.
[36:52]
Yeah, yeah.
[36:53]
His name is probably Bird.
[36:54]
They're calling him Boyd.
[36:55]
Yeah.
[36:56]
And yeah, he's teamed up with a woman named Goyle.
[36:58]
Yeah.
[37:00]
Sure.
[37:02]
And for some reason they call Harry Styles Harry Stoyles.
[37:05]
Oh, yeah.
[37:07]
You know what that means?
[37:08]
Again, anachronistic.
[37:09]
So I guess what this also means is that Popeye Doyle in French Connection, his real name is Popeye Durrell.
[37:14]
Mm hmm.
[37:15]
OK.
[37:16]
We're all learning something.
[37:17]
Yeah.
[37:18]
And when and when they're saying that food is spoiled, they're really saying that it's spiraled.
[37:24]
Which I'm, you know, I don't know what that means, but.
[37:28]
We'll never find out.
[37:29]
So here's the thing.
[37:31]
He goes to this.
[37:32]
He gets booked to this police station.
[37:33]
Who happens to be there?
[37:34]
Oh, hold on.
[37:35]
Hold on.
[37:36]
Hold on.
[37:37]
To spiral something out is to cause a chaotic or messy source to flow out in an outpouring.
[37:42]
So.
[37:43]
Accurate.
[37:44]
You know.
[37:45]
Yeah.
[37:46]
If it's spiraled, apparently just dropped on the floor.
[37:48]
Maybe.
[37:49]
OK.
[37:50]
Well, I mean, that'll ruin some food.
[37:51]
Like if you're holding an egg.
[37:52]
Yeah.
[37:54]
The five second rule doesn't work for eggs.
[37:56]
Just don't even try.
[37:58]
It's a hard boiled egg.
[37:59]
And, you know, the shell is still relatively intact.
[38:02]
Yeah.
[38:03]
Right.
[38:04]
Yeah.
[38:05]
Just dust it off and scarf down an egg.
[38:06]
You know, treat yourself.
[38:07]
Yeah.
[38:08]
Treat yourself to an egg.
[38:11]
Just like the egg council says.
[38:12]
Yeah.
[38:13]
The egg council says treat yourself.
[38:14]
Hey America, treat yourself to an egg.
[38:16]
Just brought to you by eggs.
[38:18]
Treat yourself to a sweet treat.
[38:21]
An egg.
[38:22]
Treat yourself to an egg.
[38:23]
Hey.
[38:24]
The yolk's not.
[38:26]
The white's not much.
[38:27]
But the yolk's a nice.
[38:28]
Hey.
[38:29]
Hey.
[38:30]
You had a hard day today.
[38:31]
You had to take the subway.
[38:32]
It was.
[38:33]
It was super crowded.
[38:34]
Bad day at work.
[38:35]
And then your significant other dumped you.
[38:38]
Hey.
[38:39]
Take the edge off.
[38:40]
Treat yourself to an egg.
[38:43]
Yeah.
[38:44]
Yeah.
[38:45]
The pandemic.
[38:46]
Political turmoil.
[38:47]
War.
[38:48]
Why don't you have an egg?
[38:50]
Imagine a commercial for the egg council where someone is.
[38:52]
Yeah.
[38:53]
There's all this bad stuff.
[38:54]
Turns off the news and goes.
[38:55]
Ah.
[38:56]
And then just opens up a carton of eggs and smiles.
[38:59]
You've never let me down.
[39:01]
Pulls a hard-boiled egg out of their pocket.
[39:05]
Yeah.
[39:06]
Because they keep.
[39:07]
Because.
[39:08]
Because.
[39:09]
Because they're a hobo.
[39:10]
That's a rapper idiot.
[39:19]
And there's a narrator that just goes.
[39:21]
Eggs in good times.
[39:22]
They just seem to go together.
[39:24]
No.
[39:25]
No.
[39:26]
Here's the other commercial.
[39:27]
OK.
[39:28]
Based on that rapper Stewart.
[39:29]
So someone go.
[39:30]
Oh.
[39:31]
I have some candy in my pocket.
[39:32]
And they pull it out.
[39:33]
It's all sticky and covered in lint.
[39:34]
And he goes.
[39:35]
Oh.
[39:36]
And the next egg pulls out a hard-boiled egg from his pocket and goes.
[39:38]
It has its own rapper dummy.
[39:40]
And then just flakes the shell off.
[39:42]
Leaving little pieces of eggshell all over the floor of the theater.
[39:44]
You're making me so hungry.
[39:47]
And it has Kirk Cameron is the thing.
[39:49]
He's like an egg.
[39:50]
Hard-boiled egg comes with its own rapper.
[39:52]
This is.
[39:53]
This is.
[39:54]
This proves.
[39:55]
Proof of intelligent design.
[39:56]
That if you cook an egg.
[39:57]
It has a shell still.
[39:58]
That.
[39:59]
That.
[40:00]
That.
[40:01]
That.
[40:02]
That.
[40:03]
That.
[40:04]
That.
[40:05]
That.
[40:06]
That.
[40:07]
That.
[40:08]
That.
[40:09]
That.
[40:10]
That.
[40:11]
That.
[40:12]
That.
[40:13]
That.
[40:14]
That.
[40:15]
That.
[40:16]
That.
[40:17]
That.
[40:18]
That.
[40:00]
God in his infinite wisdom knew that we would figure out that you boil these.
[40:05]
God had a plan, and that was us figuring out how to boil eggs.
[40:13]
So anyway, he gets to this police station.
[40:17]
Who does he run into?
[40:18]
Uh-oh, it's his ex-partner, Dan Hedaya, a crooked cop whose life Boyd ruined when he
[40:24]
reported him for doing corrupt things.
[40:26]
Hedaya's like, oh, my family hates me, and all that stuff.
[40:29]
He takes him to an interrogation room and gets ready to beat him up, which is silly.
[40:33]
James Brolin is so much bigger than Dan Hedaya.
[40:36]
The idea that Dan Hedaya is going to be able to take him is bonkers.
[40:39]
He's got like a vibe, you know?
[40:41]
I guess that's true.
[40:44]
He's got the vibe of the dad in Clueless.
[40:46]
Yeah, but he's like young.
[40:48]
What did he look like when he was not the dad in Clueless?
[40:50]
He looked almost exactly the same.
[40:51]
Were his eyebrows still enormous?
[40:52]
Yeah, this is like, this is about 15 years before he's the dad from Clueless, and he
[40:56]
looks pretty much the same.
[40:59]
So James Brolin beats him up and runs away.
[41:02]
Now he's wanted for beating up a cop.
[41:04]
Here is maybe the most amazing scene in the movie.
[41:07]
Doesn't change his clothes, though, right?
[41:08]
He's still wearing a plaid shirt and jeans.
[41:11]
Same clothes.
[41:12]
He doesn't think to disguise himself, shave off his beard.
[41:14]
He's not exactly Harrison Ford in The Fugitive, you know, where Harrison Ford is like, the
[41:18]
police are after me.
[41:19]
I have a beard.
[41:20]
Let me shave it off.
[41:21]
It'll totally, it'll surprise them.
[41:23]
They're looking for a man with a beard.
[41:25]
They don't know that beards are removable.
[41:27]
Police are after me.
[41:28]
I will put a plastic green hat on my head and walk around the St. Patrick's Day parade.
[41:33]
Yeah, that works, too.
[41:35]
They think I'm not Irish, so this will confuse them.
[41:38]
So do you realize Kirk Cameron, he also said he goes, intelligent design shows that God
[41:42]
knew we might have to run from the police at some point.
[41:44]
So he gave men facial hair that can be removed to create two different looks in instant disguise.
[41:49]
Beards are not permanent.
[41:52]
I'm sorry.
[41:53]
I'm looking at Dan Hedaya's, you know, filmography.
[41:58]
I'm wondering, other than The Craft, or not The Craft, sorry, other than Clueless.
[42:03]
He was one of the four craft ladies?
[42:06]
I don't know why I said The Craft.
[42:09]
Other than Clueless.
[42:10]
It does suggest an interesting, different version of Clueless, where instead of Alicia
[42:13]
Silverstone making over Brittany Murphy, Brittany Murphy introduces Alicia Silverstone to magic.
[42:19]
I think it's because I was scrolling by The Crew, which is a movie he's in.
[42:24]
Other than Clueless, has he, you know, has he played like a, just like a nice, regular
[42:29]
nice dude?
[42:30]
Yeah, like Bloodstained Med.
[42:31]
Yeah.
[42:32]
The nicest.
[42:33]
I mean, I just like, you know, he's great at what he does.
[42:38]
I just, I pity the poor man.
[42:40]
Even if what he does isn't pretty.
[42:43]
Like, he's just like, I guess my thing is I play real creeps all the time.
[42:48]
Yeah, it's called having a career, Dan.
[42:50]
It's a fucking living, buddy.
[42:51]
Yeah, come on.
[42:52]
Yeah, I guess so.
[42:53]
I mean, yeah, no, to be a character actor who plays creeps all the time, that would
[42:57]
be pretty fun.
[42:58]
Living the dream.
[42:59]
And boy, what a creep he is because he chases after James Brolin into the streets with a
[43:02]
shotgun in his hands, and he's just blasting away at him in real New York City streets.
[43:08]
And James Brolin is just ducking under cars and stuff, and people are running and screaming.
[43:12]
It's not really clear that the extras know this is a movie.
[43:16]
It's very possible they just had Dan Hedaya blasting away with a shotgun full of blanks
[43:21]
and then had windows rigged to explode.
[43:23]
And it is, this scene is, it's just, it's the most over-the-top scene in the whole movie
[43:27]
to me because it's super intense, and you're like, there is no way that no one's going
[43:31]
to get hurt.
[43:32]
He's just chasing after him out in the middle of the day.
[43:35]
Again, it's just set during the day, even though the movie's called Night of the Juggler.
[43:38]
Should be called Day of the Juggler, and actually it should be called Day of the Guy Who Wears
[43:40]
a Plaid Shirt because there's no jugglers in it.
[43:44]
It's just, it's an amazing scene.
[43:45]
I mean, Day of the Kidnapper seems more accurate.
[43:48]
Yeah, I mean, that's fun.
[43:50]
And later on, they refer to him as the Mole Man, so they could have called it Day of the
[43:53]
Mole Man.
[43:54]
Okay.
[43:55]
Yeah.
[43:56]
Yeah, they should have.
[43:57]
Anyway, that police lieutenant played by Clemenza, he is wiretapping calls from the kidnapper,
[44:03]
but he gets the kidnapper paranoid because the guy who's running the tracer on the call
[44:08]
makes a lot of noise for some reason.
[44:09]
He like knocks over a pile of videotapes or something, and now the kidnapper doesn't trust
[44:13]
anybody.
[44:14]
Boyd, he's got this dog tag, this dog medal for heroic service in protection of dogs.
[44:20]
He takes it to the animal control offices in the city because he wants to look up the
[44:23]
owner's name and address, and he gets helped by a beautiful young woman played by Julie
[44:27]
Carmen, who you will know, of course, as the female lead in In the Mouth of Madness.
[44:31]
And she decides, kind of just by looking it in James Brolin's eyes, she decides he's a
[44:36]
good man and she's going to help him.
[44:38]
And she becomes his kind of sidekick through most of the rest of the movie until she kind
[44:42]
of disappears at a certain point.
[44:43]
Probably to go read some Sutter Cane.
[44:46]
Yeah, she gets her job as an editor, editing Sutter Cane, and things went downhill from
[44:51]
there.
[44:52]
So they find the name of the guy, his name is Gus Soltic, and he lives up in the South
[44:56]
Bronx.
[44:57]
She goes, oh, that's near where my neighborhood is.
[44:59]
It's bad.
[45:00]
You should come with me.
[45:01]
And they bond on the subway up there.
[45:03]
She's clearly, I guess, supposed to be attracted to him, but the movie does not have them build
[45:07]
a romance within minutes of meeting, really.
[45:10]
So I give the movie credit for that.
[45:12]
Unlike the movie Brain Smasher, a love story, in which Terry Hatcher falls for Andrew Dice
[45:19]
Clay within like 40 minutes of knowing him.
[45:23]
She sees how good he is at smashing brains.
[45:25]
It's hard to find a good man.
[45:27]
All the good men who smash brains are either gay or taken.
[45:29]
So you got to jump on the one that's there, you know.
[45:32]
Dan, when you smash brains, how does that pay?
[45:34]
Is that a good job?
[45:35]
Do you get benefits?
[45:36]
How does it pay?
[45:37]
I mean, it's on commission, is the weird thing.
[45:40]
Wow.
[45:41]
Okay, how does that work?
[45:43]
Well, you got to find someone who will pay you to smash a brain.
[45:47]
Well, that's not commission.
[45:48]
That's a salary position.
[45:49]
And then you take a cut of all the brains you can smash.
[45:53]
I don't understand.
[45:54]
I mean, if it works, it works.
[45:58]
I'm not an economist.
[45:59]
I don't need to know how brain smashing functions.
[46:00]
If Elliot can't understand it, maybe his brains are already been smashed.
[46:04]
Well, it's possible.
[46:05]
It just sounds like gibberish.
[46:07]
So anyway, the kidnapper goes, I want you to leave a million dollars for me in this
[46:11]
parks department structure.
[46:12]
It's right next to where a big outdoor rock concert is being set up.
[46:16]
And the other cops are like, he'll show up and we'll just shoot him with snipers in the
[46:19]
middle of this crowded rock concert.
[46:21]
And Richard Casalano was like, that's a terrible idea.
[46:23]
But he said he leaves a cop to wait in the shadows of the room where the money is going
[46:28]
to be.
[46:29]
Boyd and Maria get uptown and it's like, you know what?
[46:31]
This movie set in kind of scuzzy New York.
[46:33]
It's from the 70s.
[46:34]
The movie hasn't been, it hasn't shown us like kind of a racist caricature of a street
[46:39]
gang.
[46:40]
It's kind of a racist caricature of a taxi cab driver, but not so much of a street gang.
[46:44]
Well, here they are.
[46:45]
It's time for them to show up.
[46:46]
And they're mad at James Brolin because they think he's stealing one of their women and
[46:49]
they chase after him and he runs away and eventually finds the location of Saltic, who
[46:54]
the locals call the mole man.
[46:56]
He gets there just as Saltic is taking his daughter out to go to the money handoff and
[47:00]
Boyd starts chasing him through the rubble of the South Bronx.
[47:02]
But then that street gang shows up.
[47:03]
There are roughly 500 members of the street gang and they all try to kill Boyd and he's
[47:07]
just fighting them off like crazy until the police show up and start arresting everybody.
[47:13]
And Boyd, even though he is wanted for assaulting a police officer, getting into a fight in
[47:18]
a porn theater, also jumping the turnstile, maybe the worst, because when he does that,
[47:22]
he's stealing from everybody.
[47:24]
By stealing the fare that he owes to the MTA, he's stealing from everybody who uses the
[47:28]
subway.
[47:29]
Wow.
[47:30]
You've been talking to your buddy Eric Adams.
[47:31]
Anyway.
[47:32]
Anyway, so Eric Adams and I met at this Bitcoin convention and he had a lot of interesting
[47:35]
things to say about crime prevention.
[47:37]
Yeah.
[47:38]
He told you to check inside the walls of your kids' rooms if there's any contraband.
[47:45]
Yeah.
[47:46]
So with Eric, it's been so liberating being in Los Angeles and not in New York that I
[47:50]
don't really keep tabs of Eric Adams.
[47:52]
And it's nice having a different mayor here that I can dislike as opposed to New York.
[47:57]
Dislike can be disappointed in.
[47:58]
And we're we have a mayoral election coming up.
[48:00]
The primary is going on right now.
[48:02]
Today is the primary election day.
[48:03]
I already mailed in my ballot last week and you were saying you can't wait for Caruso
[48:08]
to win.
[48:09]
Right.
[48:10]
I was saying what I really want.
[48:11]
I want this.
[48:12]
I thought it was David Caruso.
[48:13]
That's the thing.
[48:14]
That's why I voted for him, because I thought he was going to deliver the state of the city
[48:16]
address with sunglasses on and then take them off and put them on when he had puns.
[48:20]
No, Stewart's right.
[48:21]
I really want the city to be run like a like a weird outdoor mall that feels like the village
[48:26]
from the prisoner.
[48:28]
So anyway, just kidding.
[48:29]
I didn't vote for Caruso.
[48:31]
So there anyway, Boyd says on the radio, hey, this guy is Celtic.
[48:36]
He works in the city tunnels.
[48:37]
This is something that we learned that I didn't bring up till now.
[48:39]
He's going to use the tunnel system to get to where the money is.
[48:42]
He's not going to go around.
[48:43]
Yeah, that's what they call the mole man.
[48:45]
And so now the kidnappers on the train to the way the concert's going to be.
[48:49]
He's super creepy.
[48:50]
He starts telling Boyd's daughter that he's getting the money so the two of them can run
[48:54]
off and live together in love.
[48:55]
It's really gross.
[48:56]
It's terrible.
[48:58]
The kidnapper gets the handoff area, almost immediately shoots the cop who's lying in
[49:02]
wait for him there.
[49:03]
And this is it.
[49:04]
Boyd shows up and it is time for him to take down this kidnapper.
[49:07]
Oh, yeah.
[49:08]
The kidnapper runs into the maintenance tunnels of the city.
[49:11]
This is where he's at his strongest.
[49:13]
And he uses every trap he can think of.
[49:14]
He's releasing steam.
[49:16]
There's something with electricity.
[49:17]
It goes on forever.
[49:18]
And I was watching this movie on YouTube because it's not it's not that easy to get a hold
[49:22]
of otherwise.
[49:23]
And the visuals were a little blurry as well.
[49:26]
Also dark.
[49:27]
It was kind of hard to tell what was going on during the roughly nine minutes straight
[49:30]
of them fighting in the subways.
[49:32]
It was to be fair.
[49:33]
The movie lost a lot of momentum because it was missed.
[49:36]
The Ninja Turtles coming in and wondering where their pizza was to assume that's what
[49:43]
happened.
[49:44]
So you think the Ninja Turtles are foolish enough that they they just tell the pizza
[49:47]
guy come to the sewers and then they're just sitting around baffled by the fact that the
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pizza has not arrived?
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Well, if the first movie is any indication, they tell them to go to like a certain address
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and.
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and like a half or a quarter or whatever it is.
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And then they're like, hey, look down here.
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And yeah, if I recall, also, they don't tip him
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because he's a little late, which is pretty shitty.
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That's fucked up, dude.
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Michelangelo's part.
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Those turtles, they're real, they're real.
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Well, it's because they've never had
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to work a service job before, you know?
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Yeah. No, no.
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They've gotten pretty sweet.
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Just ninjas.
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Well, that's a guild.
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That's like a, that's a skilled laborer job.
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Yeah.
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Have you guys ever had this happen to you?
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This happened to me once at my credit card company.
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I was so impressed.
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That's why I'm sticking with them.
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Their fraud prevention alert system.
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They saw that I had paid for a pizza party
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for a number of kids.
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I'd bought 10 or 11 pizzas,
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and they just wanted to check and make sure
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that a Ninja Turtle had not stolen my credit card.
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And I really appreciated that they did that.
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Yeah. It was great.
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Well, because they saw the topics listed
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and it was ice cream and anchovies
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and like, just like kernels of corn for some reason.
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And you're like, this is popular in Europe, but not here.
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They got algorithms that pick up that sort of thing
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when a Ninja Turtle tries to order pizza.
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Yeah, it happens.
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And they suggest movies to them that they want to watch.
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I know that's what algorithms do.
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Anyway, do you think there's, there's-
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And they combat LeBron James
[51:17]
in the Toon World or whatever, right?
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Did that happen?
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Oh, algorithms.
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I thought you meant Ninja Turtles.
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I was like, I don't remember Ninja Turtles in Space Jam.
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Algorithms do that.
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That's true.
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Yeah. What a movie, that Space Jam movie.
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It was on, it was, it was on the airplane recently
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and my, and my son was like, that we were on.
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My son was like, oh, Space Jam.
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Should I watch that?
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And I was like, why?
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We already have an HBO Max subscription.
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Like, you don't need an advertisement for that.
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And he's like, but look, it's the nuns from the devils.
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You don't have to be on a plane for this, Sammy.
[51:46]
He was, he was watching,
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he was pointing out all the Easter eggs.
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He was going, there's baby Jane, Betty Davis herself.
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It's my friend, the Droogs.
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Droogs?
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All my favorite characters.
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Yeah.
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So the, the nuns from the devils is,
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that's, I mean, it's almost worth it.
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The movie exists just for that, being in there.
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Hmm.
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There's Malcolm McDowell as Caligula,
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right behind LeBron James.
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Anyway.
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We're hanging out with the mask.
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So the, so the, the fight goes on forever.
[52:19]
Eventually, Brolin defeats him.
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I couldn't tell if he kills him or not.
[52:23]
The movie, like I said, it gets really dark here.
[52:25]
Boyd takes his daughter back up to the surface.
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And she says, I still don't want to move to Connecticut.
[52:29]
And he goes, you're just like your old man.
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And then I guess they go off and watch that rock concert
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as odd guests at the police department.
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Now, what do you think would have happened
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in the Space Jam movie,
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if the mask had lost his, his magical mask
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and then Caligula had picked it up and put it on?
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Do you think he'd still say smokin'
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and somebody stopped me and shit like that?
[52:48]
Yeah, but he'd say it in Latin.
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Uh, he might say smokin'.
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I don't think Caligula was worried
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about someone stopping him.
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That's true.
[52:56]
It's kind of the point of the story
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is that he wasn't worried about that.
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He did what he had.
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Yeah.
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I mean, he certainly wouldn't encourage anyone to stop him.
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Shhh.
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Like, maybe he would dare them to stop him.
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Maybe that's part of the fantasy, yeah.
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Try to stop the great Caligula.
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When he dressed up in a, dressed up in a zoot suit
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and then made his horse a senator.
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Yeah, that's, uh.
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Yeah.
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What else, I wonder what else Mask Caligula would do.
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I wish I remembered more of what happens
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in the movie, The Mask.
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Well, he would probably lead his army
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on an invasion of England
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and then just pick up some stones
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and then go home, right?
[53:27]
Oh, they were like seashells, right?
[53:29]
He just picked up seashells.
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So here's the thing.
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I've heard conflicting explanations of that story.
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One is that he had gone mad
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and he thought that he had defeated the sea.
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And the other was that he was so disappointed in his army
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that he was like, you know what?
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We're gonna go fight the sea.
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Pick up some seashells.
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That's our treasure.
[53:44]
You guys did a great job.
[53:46]
That was kind of sarcastic.
[53:47]
There's a lot of, there's a lot of Caligula stories
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that might've been, like when he made his horse a senator,
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he might've been like, just insulting the other senators.
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Not like, not actually doing it for realsies.
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That the point of it was that he got to England
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and he's like, this is the beaches you have?
[54:02]
Ah, yeah. These are your beaches?
[54:05]
It's just rocks, rocks and shells.
[54:08]
Let's go home, guys.
[54:09]
Why did I come here?
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Italy has great beaches.
[54:11]
What am I doing here?
[54:12]
Everybody here vacations in Spain.
[54:18]
Anyway, so who else?
[54:19]
So who, I forgot, who else?
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What other characters were in the background of Space Jam?
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What other great Warner Brothers properties?
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What other great characters from history?
[54:29]
What if the Iron Giant got ahold of that mask, huh?
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Or what if Caligula got ahold of the Iron Giant?
[54:35]
Oh boy, that would be trouble.
[54:39]
So much trouble.
[54:40]
So, and now this of course is retconning Caligula
[54:43]
as a Warner Brothers release, which of course it wasn't.
[54:47]
Yeah, the CEO of Warner Brothers, Bob Guccione.
[54:51]
Yeah, Bob Guccione sold it.
[54:53]
It was a big mistake when they appointed
[54:54]
Bob Guccione head of Warner Brothers
[54:56]
and suddenly all the Looney Tunes characters
[54:58]
were just golden showering each other.
[54:59]
It's the future of animation.
[55:01]
Trust me.
[55:02]
Iron Giant's famous line, I am not a senator.
[55:06]
Anyway, so that's Night of the Juggler.
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Here's what I'm gonna tell you about this movie.
[55:09]
It is not as classy as you're taking a Pelham 1, 2, 3
[55:13]
is or your Dog Day Afternoons is,
[55:15]
but it's also not quite as gross
[55:18]
as some of the real exploitation-y movies
[55:21]
made in New York at the time.
[55:22]
It's kind of betwixt and between.
[55:24]
And as a result, it's kind of a little too rough for fun
[55:28]
and not quite intense enough for making you feel bad fun.
[55:33]
Like when you watch an exploitation movie
[55:34]
and you feel bad afterwards.
[55:36]
But guys, here's the question.
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Are you glad you missed your movie?
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Are you sad you missed the movie?
[55:42]
Or do you had to un-miss the movie?
[55:44]
Is that what it was?
[55:46]
Yes.
[55:49]
I'll say that once you started talking about it
[55:53]
and the title sunk in with the plot together,
[55:58]
I realized that this is a movie that I had heard about
[56:00]
before on the Pure Cinema podcast,
[56:03]
which is a good podcast about a lot of genre movies.
[56:09]
It's often genre movies, not always,
[56:14]
but also often little scene movies.
[56:19]
And I would say that, I would criticize it
[56:24]
for sometimes being the kind of thing
[56:27]
where they recommend something
[56:28]
just because they're such movie lovers
[56:31]
that they want to recommend something obscure and new
[56:35]
and perhaps overvalue the novelty of it.
[56:39]
But then again, that's my whole letterboxd diary is me.
[56:45]
Giving maybe one star too many to various things
[56:49]
because they're on the outskirts
[56:51]
and I find it interesting for some obscure reasons.
[56:54]
So anyway, the whole point is
[56:56]
I was already kind of interested in it.
[56:59]
So I would say I had to not miss it,
[57:04]
which is that I will look it up at some point.
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Stuart.
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I feel that Elliot's description, while exciting,
[57:14]
which having heard Elliot describe many movies
[57:16]
over the years, you have a talent for it, sir.
[57:20]
I also can tell that I don't think I would enjoy
[57:23]
watching the movie as much as I enjoyed
[57:25]
listening to you describe it to me.
[57:27]
I think it is, I would, to be fair,
[57:30]
I think it is a movie that is probably more fun
[57:32]
to hear about or read about than it is to actually watch.
[57:36]
So I'm going to say I'm glad I missed it
[57:39]
because there's only so many kernels of sand
[57:42]
in this hourglass, baby.
[57:44]
Would it change your thinking at all
[57:45]
if I mentioned that the father of the rich girl
[57:50]
who is not kidnapped is played by Marco St. John,
[57:54]
who as Wikipedia describes, is known for his role
[57:56]
as the horny truck driver in Thelma and Louise.
[57:59]
You can kind of imagine that it's the same character
[58:02]
who lost his real estate riches and became a truck driver
[58:05]
and then had his truck blown up.
[58:06]
Would that help?
[58:07]
I will say I do want to go and find the scene
[58:13]
where Dan Hedaya is just blasting shit
[58:15]
with a shotgun somewhere on YouTube, maybe.
[58:17]
That is, that scene is definitely worth watching.
[58:20]
He's just going bananas with a shotgun
[58:25]
and it is, it's very scary.
[58:27]
It's a very scary scene because you're like,
[58:29]
I kind of believe Dan Hedaya did this for real
[58:31]
and they just had to write it into the movie.
[58:33]
Yeah.
[58:35]
Okay, well, thanks for enlivening our life
[58:39]
with another movie that we have missed.
[58:42]
No problem.
[58:43]
Guys, I was so glad to share it with you.
[58:45]
And listeners, I was even more glad to share it with you.
[58:47]
As always, I should say this more often,
[58:48]
I apologize for anything I said during this podcast
[58:51]
that was either insulting or unfunny.
[58:55]
Oh, we can just do that?
[58:56]
Yeah, I'm doing it now.
[58:57]
Oh, that's how you make sure that your foot's on base?
[59:01]
Yeah, exactly.
[59:03]
I'll apologize for much of my life then.
[59:05]
Yeah, okay, that's good.
[59:07]
We can do that.
[59:08]
But this is the end of another
[59:10]
Miss That Movie Mini Manny episode of the Flophouse Podcast.
[59:15]
I've been Elliot Kalin and joining me on this tour
[59:19]
through the torrid underbelly of 70s New York has been.
[59:24]
Me, Dan McCoy.
[59:25]
And me, Stuart Wellington.
[59:28]
We'll be back next week with a regular episode
[59:31]
where we talk about a more recent movie
[59:33]
that all of us have seen, stay tuned.
[59:35]
It's gonna be probably like this
[59:38]
It's gonna be stay tuned?
[59:39]
No, no, it's not gonna be stay tuned.
[59:41]
Or maybe, no, maybe it will be.
[59:42]
Stay tuned, starring the late John Ritter, sure.
[59:45]
No, it's not gonna be stay tuned, everybody.
[59:46]
But stay tuned to this podcast,
[59:50]
which will not be about stay tuned, next week
[59:53]
on the Flophouse.
[59:55]
Thanks to everyone at Maxwell Funner Network.
[59:57]
Thanks to our editor-producer, Alex Smith.
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And thanks to you. Good night.
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Elliott takes us on another journey through a movie ONE of us have seen, but the others haven't -- in this case, the gritty crime thriller Night of the Juggler, a movie completely devoid of juggling.
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