mini Jun 11, 2022 01:00:14

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[0:00] So we were just talking about how the Star Wars TV shows are really making the case that
[0:09] what we thought was the universe of adventure and amazement is actually just roughly 30
[0:14] people who go to the same two planets over and over again.
[0:17] Yeah, yeah.
[0:18] Either we just started the episode or you're filling Alex in on what happened before we
[0:23] started recording.
[0:24] That's right.
[0:25] Hey, everybody.
[0:26] Welcome to the Flophouse.
[0:27] And tonight, I'm going to be taking the wheel of what's going to be a very wild ride.
[0:33] That's right.
[0:34] Joining me are Mr. Toad himself, Dan McCoy, and the weasel, Stuart Wellington.
[0:38] That's me.
[0:39] I'm a weasel.
[0:40] Do you like it?
[0:41] Callie Shore is here.
[0:43] He's got a bone to pick with you.
[0:45] Oh, shit.
[0:46] Okay.
[0:47] Is it the bone that Encino Man was carrying around because he's a caveman?
[0:50] It is the bone.
[0:51] Yeah.
[0:52] He keeps it as a lucky totem.
[0:55] And normally on the Flophouse, as you know, guys, guys, real quick, was Paulie Shore one
[0:59] of those comedians who got super jacked?
[1:01] Should I be frightened?
[1:02] Paulie Shore?
[1:03] Probably.
[1:04] I don't know.
[1:05] Actually, that's Dan.
[1:06] Can you do a Google search for Paulie Shore jacked question mark?
[1:09] I don't think so.
[1:10] But I will say that the boss of the thing I'm working at right now, a gentleman that
[1:16] Elliot and I both know, Josh Lee, was talking about how his friend got to know Carrot Top.
[1:22] And my main question was, did your friend know him for the transformation or was it
[1:29] afterwards?
[1:30] And unfortunately, it was afterwards.
[1:31] So I don't know.
[1:32] I have no backstage.
[1:33] Unfortunately, that seems like the most interesting time to know Carrot Top.
[1:36] No.
[1:37] Well, I want to know what I want to know what precipitated it.
[1:39] I want to know what he was going through.
[1:41] I say that, like, really probably, probably like me, your run of the mill midlife crisis.
[1:46] Yeah.
[1:47] Although there was it was around the time, I think, that Carrot Top was experimenting
[1:50] with props based on gamma radiation.
[1:53] Sure.
[1:54] Yeah.
[1:55] Yeah.
[1:56] His props are free weights.
[1:57] So anyway, this is the Flophouse.
[2:01] Normally on this podcast, we talk about a bad movie that we've just watched.
[2:04] But I said normally, I mean, half the time, the other half of the time, what we call the
[2:07] off weeks, we do these Flophouse mini manis.
[2:10] That's right.
[2:11] It's a Flophouse mini mani brought to you by Minnie's Bar and Maniac of New York, as
[2:14] well as the Who Was podcast on a heart radio co-hosted by me.
[2:17] Hey, kids, don't listen to this podcast.
[2:19] It's not appropriate for you.
[2:21] Listen to the Who Was podcast, wherever podcasts are available.
[2:24] So joining me again, as I said, are Dan, the D-man DeCoy.
[2:28] And it was DeCoy because I wanted three D's in a row.
[2:33] And Stu, the S-man Swellington.
[2:36] And we're here.
[2:37] We're here.
[2:38] I was looking forward to what Elliot was going to introduce me.
[2:41] You know what?
[2:42] I was just going to do it the same way.
[2:43] Did not disappoint.
[2:44] Thanks.
[2:45] Yeah.
[2:46] He is swelling by the day.
[2:47] Muscles wise.
[2:48] Muscles wise.
[2:49] If I know anyone who's swelling, it's you.
[2:51] And sometimes boner wise.
[2:52] Possibly.
[2:53] You don't need to.
[2:54] I haven't seen someone swell like this since Violet Beauregard chewed the wrong piece of
[2:59] gum back at the old Wonka factory.
[3:01] We all know how that turned out.
[3:02] What about the Santa Claus?
[3:03] They fished her body out of the river.
[3:05] So do you think, so you, you, my, my younger son is obsessed with Willy Wonka right now.
[3:10] All those kids, all those kids just had their bodies disposed right after Wonka ruined them
[3:15] in the factory.
[3:16] I mean, I think the movie played, you know, I mean the movie and the story, the, the original
[3:21] round ball story.
[3:22] They all show up at the end and they're alive and they walk home.
[3:24] Yeah.
[3:25] Yeah.
[3:26] Okay.
[3:27] Cause like it does play.
[3:28] There are certain ones where you could plausibly think like, yeah, they survived somehow.
[3:33] They embiggened Mike TV out Augustus.
[3:37] He's the one that I'm most worried about Veruca since she falls down, up, down a pipe that
[3:43] leads to an incinerator.
[3:44] Yeah.
[3:45] I mean, it's possible it's, it's not on today though, but anyway, uh, guys, we're not here
[3:51] to talk about Willy Wonka right now.
[3:53] We are here to talk about a movie I watched.
[3:57] Wait a minute.
[3:58] Is this a regular episode of the flop house?
[3:59] No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[4:02] This is a mini Manny, which means it's time for missed that movie.
[4:06] The semi regular mini segment where one of us tells the other two about a movie we watched
[4:11] and they decide, did they want to miss the movie?
[4:14] Did they, are they bad?
[4:16] Are they hissing that they missed the movie?
[4:18] I don't remember what our ratings are.
[4:19] Yeah, it's true.
[4:20] You got, you're the keeper of these ratings.
[4:22] I think, uh, was it, we should have missed that movie was, uh, would have missed that
[4:27] movie or could have not missed it.
[4:30] Are you glad you missed it?
[4:36] Sad to miss it or had to not miss it.
[4:38] Oh yeah.
[4:39] Hell yeah.
[4:40] So tonight I'm talking, how do I not remember those incredibly accurate categories?
[4:44] Yeah.
[4:45] I mean, to be a bear, they're better categories than spookily scarifying or whatever the,
[4:49] no, those aren't, those are the made up ones that Stewart says for Shocktober, uh, all
[4:57] movie ratings are made up, Dan, just like all movies are made up.
[5:00] There's no naturally occurring organic movie rating system that grows out of the ground.
[5:04] What about this movie that I have in a perfect crystal?
[5:07] Oh, okay.
[5:08] I found it growing out outside.
[5:10] It's one of nature's miracles.
[5:13] Uh, so Dan, Stu, maybe you've seen this movie.
[5:16] I don't know.
[5:17] Tonight I'm going to be talking about a film from 1980 Columbia pictures.
[5:21] Year I was born.
[5:23] The year you were born.
[5:24] Uh, Dan born a different year.
[5:25] Me also born a different year, but around that time.
[5:28] And uh, it's a film called Night of the Juggler and this stars James Brolin and it is a, uh,
[5:38] it comes out in 1980, but it was shot in 1978 and it is very much a seventies, scuzzy
[5:43] New York crime, semi-exploitation, uh, gritty thriller.
[5:49] So guys, let me tell you a little bit before we get into the plot about night of the juggler.
[5:53] Okay.
[5:54] One, there is no juggling in the movie.
[5:57] I'm sorry to break it to you.
[5:59] And on top of that, first question on top of that, most of the movie takes place during
[6:03] the day.
[6:04] So it's an incredibly accurate title.
[6:07] Is it like, is it like everybody's looking back on that one night where there was a juggler?
[6:11] No, that would be a movie with a juggler.
[6:13] And at nighttime, this is the opposite.
[6:15] There's no juggler and it's during the daytime you're saying, oh, it's like a, it's a, it's
[6:18] a, people are sitting around wistfully remembering the time there was a juggler at night.
[6:22] Yeah.
[6:23] Yeah.
[6:24] It's the curious case of the juggler in the, in the nighttime.
[6:27] It's like in people under the stairs.
[6:29] I don't remember there actually being a scene where there were any people literally under
[6:32] stairs, but evil had two features, a lady under the stairs.
[6:37] So that should be called person under the stairs.
[6:40] I'm going to, I'm going to make the mildest of objections to you, Stuart, because I'll
[6:45] allow it.
[6:46] And I don't know what it is, but I'll allow it.
[6:47] The reason why this objection is so mild is I'm also basing this on my memory, but I think
[6:53] there were people directly under the stairs and the people under the stairs.
[6:57] Okay.
[6:58] Listeners.
[6:59] Is Stuart right?
[7:00] Or is Dan right?
[7:01] Or if you're the ghost of Wes Craven, haunts the wrong one of us.
[7:07] Yeah.
[7:08] I mean, I would love for him to haunt me.
[7:09] Yeah, man.
[7:11] Proof of life after death.
[7:12] I think you're thinking of, that's why I'm like, I don't know why everyone's scared of
[7:22] them.
[7:23] Stuart, I think you're thinking of the first Harry Potter movie in which there was a person
[7:26] under the stairs.
[7:27] Harry Potter who lived under the stairs.
[7:29] Right.
[7:30] Yeah.
[7:31] Yeah.
[7:32] And it was a metaphor for Reagan's poverty programs.
[7:33] I think.
[7:34] Anyway.
[7:35] So Night of the Juggler.
[7:36] This movie needed two directors.
[7:38] That's how tough it is.
[7:40] It was directed.
[7:41] Oh, like AI?
[7:42] Yes.
[7:43] Exactly.
[7:44] Well, I mean, AI has one director.
[7:45] It was based on, I guess, the notes that Stanley Kubrick left in between pages of a magazine
[7:48] he was reading on the toilet or something like that.
[7:50] And then Spielberg picked him up at the estate sale.
[7:53] So it started being directed by Sidney J. Fury, who you know is the director of The Ipcris
[7:57] File, Superman 4, most of the Iron Eagle series, and of course, the Rodney Dangerfield
[8:02] classic Ladybugs.
[8:04] And he, uh, I think the original version of Ladybugs had a lot more murder in it.
[8:12] So he actually was shooting the movie and he left it after a few weeks because James
[8:16] Brolin, it appeared he had broken his foot doing a stunt.
[8:20] And so Sidney Fury was like, I don't want to do this anymore.
[8:23] And he left and the producers sued him for breach of contract.
[8:26] He didn't come back.
[8:27] Did James Brolin break his foot kicking an Uruk-Hai helmet like Viggo Mortensen broke
[8:31] his foot in The Two Towers?
[8:34] No, there's actually no Uruk-Hai's in this movie, set as it is in late 70s New York.
[8:39] You're not selling this movie to me.
[8:41] Anyway, maybe it'll help you to know that it was...
[8:43] Lose two points.
[8:44] Maybe it'll help you know that the, uh, oh, I got to make up those points on the back
[8:47] end, that the man who took over the directing, Robert Butler, directed a previous Flophouse
[8:53] movie, The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes.
[8:54] He also did a lot of TV and he co-created Remington Steele.
[9:00] So that's, that's, that's why he's in the Hall of Fame.
[9:02] What's uh, throw me out, throw me the, the, the quick elevator pitch for Remington Steele.
[9:07] I don't think I recall.
[9:08] Remington Steele.
[9:09] Oh, you go.
[9:10] It's like, she's a lady detective, but she thinks people aren't going to take her seriously.
[9:14] So she hires a guy to play a fake detective and she's doing the real work and he's like
[9:19] the suave.
[9:20] Timothy Dalton is like the suave cover.
[9:23] Uh, wait, no, it's, uh, it's, it's Brosnan, Pierce Brosnan, I'm sorry.
[9:27] Yeah, I got my, I got my bonds mixed up, but that's like, yeah, that's kind of the joke
[9:31] of it where they're just like, who, uh, seems like a handsome globetrotting man of mystery.
[9:37] Let's get Pierce Brosnan, you know, because he's like, so he was so absurdly like he had
[9:43] that vibe and then they're like, let's do it for James Bond.
[9:47] And then it was like, no, too much, too much.
[9:48] James Bond's already that guy.
[9:50] It feels like too much when you put him on that.
[9:53] I think what they probably said is they said, who could be a king of France?
[9:57] Let's make him Remington Steele, who'd be like a long.
[10:00] who wants to kill a mermaid in a very loosely sketched-out ritual.
[10:05] Who could have a Thomas Crown affair?
[10:09] Steve McQueen? Well, who could have another Thomas Crown affair?
[10:12] Who could deal with Dante's Peak?
[10:15] Who could seduce a British gangster in a public pool in a very small role in the movie The Long Good Friday?
[10:24] Who could be a matador in a sort of a metaphorical way?
[10:30] He's not actually a matador in the movie.
[10:33] Mamma Mia! I've got it! Pierce Brosnan.
[10:36] Because he's in Mamma Mia, too.
[10:38] Anyway, so the screenplay of the movie, let me just tell you a little bit more and we'll get into the movie itself.
[10:42] It was written by two screenwriters, Rick Natkin, who you know best, Dan, for writing your favorite movie, Necessary Roughness.
[10:48] Oh, of course.
[10:50] Can't be harder than the delivery system.
[10:53] I watched that and I'm like, is this roughness necessary? No, but it's hilarious.
[10:58] Dan, the title clearly states the roughness is necessary.
[11:01] You've got to trust that a football with horns knows what's necessary.
[11:05] I watched fucking Major League so many times that when Necessary Roughness came out, I'm like, this is going to hit the same way.
[11:13] And you know what? It fucking didn't, and I was hurt.
[11:16] Oh, that's so sad. Really let you down.
[11:18] That's Unnecessary Roughness on your heart.
[11:20] And the other screenwriter was this guy, William W. Norton.
[11:22] He wrote a lot of Burt Reynolds movies like White Lightning and Gator.
[11:26] And then in the 80s, he went to –
[11:27] Wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.
[11:29] You're telling me that a guy who wrote for Burt Reynolds worked with a guy who wrote Necessary Roughness?
[11:36] How could they get along?
[11:38] Well, it's a good question because Norton seems like kind of a tough character.
[11:42] He went to jail in the 80s for running guns for the Irish National Liberation Army,
[11:46] which was made up of IRA guys who did not like the ceasefire and wanted to keep fighting.
[11:52] And he then moved to Nicaragua and killed a burglar who broke into his house.
[11:56] And he eventually lived in Cuba for a while before sneaking back into the United States.
[12:00] And according to the Wikipedia entry I read about him, he was nervous for years that the FBI was trying to get him until somebody called him up and was like, don't worry about it.
[12:06] No one cares about you. Just live your life.
[12:08] So it sounds like we're talking about some real-life political turmoil.
[12:12] Dan, let's hear your opinions on the Northern Ireland conflict.
[12:19] My opinions are uninformed, so I shouldn't give them.
[12:25] So this movie, it's very similar to the movie Kidnap starring Halle Berry, which was another flophouse.
[12:31] I believe it was starring an SUV featuring Halle Berry.
[12:35] It was starring like a town and country. That's true.
[12:38] But the movie was shot in 1978, not released until 1980, let me tell you.
[12:43] So by the time it was coming out, I think New York had – it was still – New York was still in the dumps.
[12:48] But it maybe wasn't as super bad as it had been. Let's start.
[12:51] It's New York. We begin with a man sitting next to Central Park waiting for his breakfast to arrive in an outdoor diner.
[12:59] When it arrives, he arranges the food on his plate into a smiley face and then dumps a ketchup bottle on top of it in an act of hostility.
[13:07] He gets up and leaves, does not eat it. So you know this guy is nuts.
[13:10] He has just ruined a perfectly good breakfast.
[13:14] So this – it turns out this is a crazy guy.
[13:18] He is – I use crazy not in a medical or diagnostic term just to describe a loosely sketched character in a 70s semi-exploitation movie.
[13:30] So he is staking out Central Park, hoping to kidnap a rich girl on her way to school.
[13:36] And the kidnapper is played by Cliff Gorman, who is an actor who won a Tony for playing Lenny Bruce in the play Lenny, which makes a lot of sense for this performance here because he's kind of playing what if Lenny was a madman as opposed to a self-destructive comedian.
[13:50] And you'll be interested to know Stu. He was in the original off-Broadway cast of The Boys in the Band.
[13:55] Oh, no shit.
[13:57] Anyway, I don't know why you'd be interested to know that.
[14:00] Then we're introduced to the main character, James Brolin.
[14:02] He's an ex-cop turned trucker, and he's one of these movie characters who's kind of a screw-up, but everyone in the neighborhood knows him and likes him.
[14:08] And he just wears jeans and a button-down flannel shirt, and he's got a beard, so he's super cool.
[14:13] He's down to earth.
[14:15] His ex-wife wants to take their daughter to live with her and her new husband in Connecticut.
[14:19] He doesn't like that.
[14:20] No, got to stay in the big city.
[14:21] It's a real over-the-top type scenario.
[14:23] It's his daughter's birthday, and he just returned home from a long-haul run, which leads me to wonder who was she staying with during this time because he just goes to his apartment.
[14:31] And she's there.
[14:32] She's just a kid, but it's her birthday, so he brought her some hot dogs.
[14:36] This was the 70s.
[14:37] It was different back then.
[14:38] That's true.
[14:39] It was different back then.
[14:40] He brought her some hot dogs and tickets to the ballet, and she's about 13, but somehow she keeps talking about how she's on a diet.
[14:46] And he's like, okay, let's jog to school then.
[14:49] It's a weird – it's very weird how much this character is talking about her diet at the beginning.
[14:53] And does he go jogging in jeans?
[14:55] You know it.
[14:56] He wears the same –
[14:57] Hell yeah.
[14:58] He got right off that truck in the same sweaty, ratty clothes and then wore them for the rest of the movie, never changing.
[15:05] I got to say, dudes that go to the gym and work out in, like, jeans and Timberlands, like, man, fucking A.
[15:12] That's some energy right there.
[15:14] Like dudes that are, like, doing full squats and everything in a pair of jeans, like, how are you doing this?
[15:19] I mean the jeans – yeah, certainly not in, like, a good – a pair of jeans with a good fit.
[15:26] Like I can see you doing squats in jeans that you shouldn't be wearing.
[15:30] You know what I mean?
[15:32] Well, they're just, like, there's too much space going on.
[15:35] Is it because they're turned around like crisscross?
[15:38] I'll tell you something.
[15:40] I spaced out.
[15:42] I spaced out earlier.
[15:43] Did you say that there's no juggling in this movie?
[15:45] There's no juggling in the movie, Dan.
[15:47] Oh, man.
[15:48] So in case you thought there was – he was a homicidal juggler who juggled knives.
[15:52] That's not what happens.
[15:53] Oh, but there is a Mandy Patinkin.
[15:55] Mandy – don't jump ahead, Dan.
[15:57] Why are you doing research on the movie?
[15:59] I'm not doing – I'm not – no plot.
[16:01] I just – I see the cast.
[16:03] Okay, we're about to get to Mandy Patinkin.
[16:05] So they're jogging to school.
[16:06] The kidnapper sees them, assumes that this girl is the rich daughter that he's – the rich person's daughter that he's trying to kidnap and grabs her.
[16:13] And James Brolin, he just chases after.
[16:16] And I'm not quite sure why this – I mean this guy is unhinged.
[16:20] He sees a girl in overalls jogging with a man who looks like a bum, and he's like, she must be rich.
[16:26] Time to pick her up.
[16:27] That must be her valet that – or her Batman that escorts her to school.
[16:33] And Brolin chases them, and there's a long chase sequence where he's chasing after the car.
[16:39] He almost manages to pull her out of the kidnapper's car.
[16:41] He jumps into a cab driven by Mandy Patinkin who is playing a Puerto Rican character or a character of some Latin, Hispanic derivation.
[16:51] And he's really going –
[16:52] As he is in The Princess Bride.
[16:55] But I guess The Princess Bride – well, he's playing a Spaniard in The Princess Bride.
[16:59] But he's – The Princess Bride is a – is such a storybook fairytale fantasy where this is supposed to be greedy New York.
[17:05] It's like The King's Daughter.
[17:06] Yeah, and you kind of wonder.
[17:07] You know they could have found an actual Puerto Rican person to play or a Cuban or Dominican, whatever ethnicity he's supposed to be.
[17:15] But instead they go with Mandy Patinkin, and he is really hamming it up.
[17:18] He hams it up like crazy, and James Brolin goes, that guy has kidnapped my daughter.
[17:22] And he goes, get in the car, and they just drive, and he keeps talking about how he should beat the – he's like so totally on board with James Brolin.
[17:29] He's beating up this guy right away, and he's like, oh, he must be a white guy.
[17:33] These perverts are always white guys.
[17:34] And he gives James Brolin a tire ironer and tells him to go beat the shit out of the kidnapper.
[17:38] And so anyway, this is a long chase.
[17:41] The kidnapper manages to escape, pulls the daughter onto the subway.
[17:44] Brolin jumps the turnstiles to follow them and gets arrested on the other end as if – and someone's like, we got a jumper, radio ahead, as if in New York in the 70s.
[17:53] They're really putting APBs out for turnstile jumpers.
[17:56] Sorry, guys.
[17:58] I was having trouble with my microphone for a moment.
[18:00] I hope that was – Alex, I hope that wasn't affecting anything before then.
[18:03] Now it seems to be doing fine.
[18:05] Pure gold.
[18:06] Perfect.
[18:07] Sorry.
[18:08] Uh-oh.
[18:09] Yeah, a lot of things were going crazy in the 70s.
[18:10] People were jumping out of movie screens.
[18:12] There was some in Times Square.
[18:13] There was a cricket in Central Park or something like that.
[18:15] Anyway, it was nuts.
[18:16] There was a Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court.
[18:19] Yeah, that was one of the signs of New York's real collapse when that Connecticut Yankee showed up in King Arthur's Court.
[18:24] Yeah, and there was also a kid in King Arthur's Court.
[18:26] There was so much going on in King Arthur's Court.
[18:28] And there's a kid who would be king?
[18:30] There's a kid who would be king.
[18:32] There was a rookie of the year.
[18:33] Cyclical.
[18:34] Yeah.
[18:35] There was a Disney's The Kid?
[18:36] It was so –
[18:37] Yeah.
[18:38] Well, there were angels in the outfield.
[18:39] I know about that.
[18:40] Yeah.
[18:41] It was a rough time.
[18:42] It was a rough time for New York.
[18:43] So anyway, then we get a little comedy scene with a police lieutenant.
[18:47] This police lieutenant, he's played by Richard Castellano.
[18:49] He's famous as Take the Cannoli Clemenza from The Godfather, and he's really stressed out.
[18:55] He's planning his daughter's wedding because cops in the movies, on the worst crime day, it's always their daughter's wedding or birthday.
[19:02] Or something like that.
[19:03] It's their anniversary they got to get home for.
[19:05] He stops into a health food yogurt store, and he's like, what you got here?
[19:09] Let me see.
[19:10] My son-in-law, he wants me to invest in his yogurt business.
[19:13] Chocolate.
[19:14] You can't do anything wrong with chocolate.
[19:15] Hey, this is pretty good.
[19:16] How do you make it?
[19:17] And the guy is like –
[19:18] So –
[19:19] The guy is like, yeah, well, you take the milk and you ferment it, and the microbes have got to be in there.
[19:22] And he goes, microbes?
[19:23] Blah.
[19:24] Forget about it.
[19:25] And walks out.
[19:26] Anyway, that's the yogurt scene.
[19:27] That's the famous yogurt scene.
[19:29] So this – yeah, I wanted to ask about this.
[19:34] You called it a health food yogurt store.
[19:37] Yeah, it's health food yogurt.
[19:38] Is it – I mean is it fully just yogurt though?
[19:41] Is that the one item that is sold in the store?
[19:43] No, no.
[19:44] I think they have other stuff, but it's –
[19:45] Or is it just general?
[19:46] But yogurt is their signature dish.
[19:47] This was back at a time when yogurt was not yet a thing everybody was eating.
[19:51] This is like – yogurt is to the 70s as sushi was to the 80s where it was like if you were rich in a movie, you're eating sushi.
[20:00] It's weird.
[20:00] Or like hummus in the 90s.
[20:02] Yes, exactly.
[20:03] Hummus in the 90s.
[20:04] What was it in the 2000s, Dan?
[20:05] You're on the food scene.
[20:07] Yeah, you're a food guy.
[20:09] You're a food guy.
[20:10] Creme fraiche.
[20:11] Yeah, you're.
[20:12] Yeah, ramps.
[20:14] I do remember when everyone was talking
[20:15] about ramps for some reason.
[20:16] Do you remember there was-
[20:17] Couldn't stop.
[20:18] Like ramps in Guanciale?
[20:20] Like, come on, get out of here.
[20:21] There was this episode of Top Chef.
[20:23] I mean, that sounds delicious.
[20:24] This episode of Top Chef.
[20:24] Yeah, it sounds amazing.
[20:25] It's the perfect combo.
[20:26] They were at the Union Square Farmer's Market
[20:28] and they go, they have ramps?
[20:29] They have ramps here?
[20:30] And all the chefs are going crazy about ramps.
[20:31] And me and my wife were like, what are ramps?
[20:33] Like, what is this?
[20:34] We had to look them up.
[20:35] It was like, oh, it's a green.
[20:36] Okay, that's all it is.
[20:38] I'm looking up ramps and it just keeps giving me
[20:40] screenshots of skate or die.
[20:43] And then ride or die, Dan McCoy, the website.
[20:47] Yeah.
[20:48] So anyway, that's the famous yogurt scene.
[20:50] Anyway, we're gonna see more of that lieutenant later.
[20:52] He's one of our, he's the speaks truth to power guy
[20:56] on the force, I guess.
[20:58] Do we see the yogurt shop anymore?
[21:00] No, the yogurt shop never comes back.
[21:02] That's it.
[21:02] Okay, I just wanted to clear that up.
[21:04] Stuart's favorite character has left.
[21:06] Yeah, sorry, there's no more yogurt.
[21:07] There's no juggler.
[21:08] There's only one scene of yogurt.
[21:10] Apologize for that.
[21:11] So the kidnapper, he takes a Brolin Sauter
[21:13] to his neighborhood, which is this burned out part
[21:15] of the South Bronx.
[21:16] It's full of wreckage.
[21:17] And he explains his reasoning behind this,
[21:19] which is that he is super racist.
[21:21] And it's just throwing around a lot of cancelable language.
[21:24] And he's blaming everything on minorities
[21:26] being shipped into his neighborhood by rich people
[21:28] so they can destroy the neighborhood
[21:29] and then buy up the buildings.
[21:31] It's real great replacement theory stuff.
[21:33] It's really horrible.
[21:34] Does he at least do it in like a song,
[21:35] like in West Side Story?
[21:36] No, it's not a song so much as a rant
[21:39] as he drags the girl through the real vacant
[21:42] burned down lots of the South Bronx.
[21:44] And that's what, there's something about these scenes
[21:46] that is, it really gets across.
[21:49] Maybe it's just one block that they were on
[21:50] that they filmed all the shots on, I don't know.
[21:52] I don't really know how badly torn apart that area was
[21:55] at the time outside of the fiction of the movies
[21:57] that have led me to believe
[21:58] that it was just Bronx warriors all the time.
[22:00] But the, it really looks like
[22:02] they're in the middle of the apocalypse
[22:03] that they're just walking through, you know,
[22:05] lots of rubble and things like that.
[22:07] And it makes me think, you know what, New York?
[22:11] I'm glad that you're not like that anymore.
[22:12] I love you, but you're bringing me down.
[22:14] No, I'm glad that you're not full of vacant lots,
[22:16] full of rubble as hard as it is to live there now.
[22:18] And it's too expensive.
[22:19] And the buildings they put up nowadays are,
[22:21] let's face it, ugly.
[22:22] They look like a combination of either college dorms
[22:24] or the Fortress of Solitude.
[22:26] And there's that whole Hudson Yards thing.
[22:28] Don't even get me started on that.
[22:29] Anyway, you know what, forget about it.
[22:31] Yeah, you'd prefer unchecked gentrification
[22:33] as opposed to, you know, a blasted landscape
[22:37] run by street gangs.
[22:38] And they can only be stopped by one man.
[22:40] That's right, Dollman, played by Tim Thomerson.
[22:43] A pint-sized intergalactic cop with a giant gun.
[22:46] Is that what Dollman is about?
[22:49] I mean, that's the first one.
[22:50] The second one, he's versus the demonic toys.
[22:52] But there was, I mean, we all remember the headlines
[22:55] when it said, Ford to Dollman, drop dead.
[22:58] And Dollman was the only thing standing
[22:59] between New York and total collapse.
[23:01] But you know what, in thinking about some
[23:04] of the new buildings they've been putting up,
[23:05] I kind of turned around on it.
[23:06] So you know what, if it means they don't build
[23:09] any more of that big, like, you know, the vessel,
[23:11] the thing at the Hudson Yards that looks
[23:13] like a hollow beehive, you know what,
[23:16] let's tear parts of the city down,
[23:17] if it means no more of those,
[23:18] because I'm not a fan of that.
[23:19] Or those buildings where, like,
[23:21] the windows are all different colors.
[23:23] I don't like those ones.
[23:24] Oh, well, that sounds pretty.
[23:25] I haven't seen any of those.
[23:25] You mean like a church?
[23:27] Well, yeah, I'm talking about stained glass, Stuart.
[23:31] Beautiful stained glass, I hate it.
[23:35] No, there's like weird, like, I don't know.
[23:35] Trying to impress me with the majesty of God, blah.
[23:39] There's like these, there's a couple of skyscrapers
[23:42] that look kind of like 80s trapper keepers.
[23:44] But what's- Cool.
[23:45] Do they have a lot of, like, neon squiggles
[23:48] and dinosaurs with sunglasses on them?
[23:51] Yeah.
[23:52] I love that shit.
[23:53] And chicken nuggets on roller skates.
[23:54] Chicken nuggets on roller skates?
[23:56] Yes, I want to put my homework in that shit.
[23:59] Yeah.
[24:01] Sounds great.
[24:02] Now I love, you know what, Dane, you turned me around.
[24:04] Now I like gentrified New York again.
[24:05] This has been a real roller coaster.
[24:06] Anyway, he kidnapped, it turns out he kidnapped this girl
[24:10] because he thought she was the daughter
[24:11] of a rich real estate developer,
[24:12] and he's going to ask her dad for a million dollars.
[24:16] He takes her to his home after casually killing somebody,
[24:20] and he talks for a long time
[24:21] about how great his mom and dad were.
[24:23] And he plays with this vicious looking dog
[24:25] who never really enters into the story.
[24:27] And later he dresses up the daughter
[24:28] in his mom's old dress.
[24:29] Real quick, real quick.
[24:30] You said vicious looking dog.
[24:32] Do you mean that the dog looks like Vicious,
[24:34] the character from Cowboy Bebop?
[24:36] I mean, he looks like Sid Vicious.
[24:37] He's got like a safety pin through the ear
[24:42] and he's thinking my way.
[24:44] Yeah, all that stuff.
[24:46] And he's heading toward an early death.
[24:49] Yeah, exactly.
[24:51] So this guy, he's turning out to be a real creep.
[24:55] Dan, maybe this is a good place.
[24:57] Speaking of creeps, Dan, would you like to be creepy
[25:02] and introduce the ad for today?
[25:04] Okay, I guess I will.
[25:05] Why not?
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[25:10] I'm going to pull it.
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[25:15] Dan, please tell us more.
[25:16] I'll put this newspaper away with the headline story.
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[25:23] What newspaper was that?
[25:27] High Times Daily?
[25:28] Certainly not High Times.
[25:30] Yeah, exactly.
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[27:21] Um, hi, I'm looking for a movie.
[27:27] Oh, I gotcha.
[27:28] There's that new foreign film with the time travel.
[27:30] There's an amazing documentary
[27:32] about queer history on streaming.
[27:33] Have I told you about this classic
[27:35] where giant robots fight?
[27:37] Or there's that one that most critics hated,
[27:38] but I thought was actually pretty good.
[27:40] Ooh, I know.
[27:42] The one with the huge car chase,
[27:43] and then there's that scene where
[27:45] the car jumps over the submarine.
[27:48] Wow, who are you eclectic movie experts?
[27:50] Well, I'm Ify Wadiwak.
[27:51] I'm Drea Clark.
[27:52] And I'm Alonzo Duraldi.
[27:53] And together, we host the movie podcast Maximum Film.
[27:56] New episodes every week on MaximumFun.org.
[27:59] And you actually just walked into our recording booth.
[28:02] Oh, weird, sorry.
[28:03] I thought this was a video store.
[28:05] You seem like a lady with a lot of problems.
[28:09] Do you sometimes wonder whatever happened
[28:11] to the kids at your school who really loved Star Trek?
[28:13] You might remember a kid like me,
[28:15] the one who read the Star Trek novels
[28:17] and built Starship models.
[28:19] I also took music classes to avoid taking gym classes
[28:21] that required showering after,
[28:23] but I don't see what that really has to do with-
[28:25] Or a kid like me.
[28:26] I introduced myself to kids
[28:28] at my summer camp one year as Wesley.
[28:30] But when the school year started
[28:31] and some of those kids were in my new class,
[28:33] I actually had to explain to my friends
[28:35] that I had tried to take on the identity
[28:37] of my favorite Star Trek character.
[28:39] The shame haunts me to this day.
[28:40] I'm sure some of those Star Trek fans from your childhood
[28:43] grew up to have interesting and productive lives,
[28:46] but we ended up being podcasters.
[28:49] On The Greatest Discovery, you'll hear what happens
[28:52] to two lifelong Star Trek fans
[28:54] who didn't grow up to be great people,
[28:55] but just grew up to be people who love jokes
[28:57] as much as they love Trek.
[28:59] So listen to our new episodes every week
[29:01] on MaximumFun.org or wherever you get your podcasts.
[29:05] Thanks, let's get back to the chase, literally,
[29:08] because during that big chase earlier,
[29:10] James Brolin saw the kidnapper drop something
[29:12] outside of a porno theater in Times Square.
[29:14] That's right, it's 70s New York.
[29:16] You can't escape, go into a peep show in Times Square.
[29:19] So that's what he does, he goes there-
[29:20] You can't escape it.
[29:21] You can't escape it, you try.
[29:22] That's what Escape from New York is about.
[29:24] Snake Plissken is like, I don't wanna go to that.
[29:25] I think they're gross, but he has to go there.
[29:27] And you're like, well, you have such a suggestive name, sir.
[29:31] But Ernest Borgdine drives him straight to one.
[29:33] Hey, buddy, I know a place we're gonna have a good time.
[29:36] And he's like, I don't wanna go here, I'm Snake.
[29:37] Yeah, a guy named Snake and Plissken,
[29:39] I don't know what it means, but it sounds doidy.
[29:41] Anyway, go on in, I'm Ernest Borgdine, Academy Award winner.
[29:45] I'm driving a cab in this prison city.
[29:47] It's me, Marty.
[29:48] It's me, Marty.
[29:50] And then Michael J. Fox goes, me?
[29:51] And he goes, no, no, no, that's a different Marty.
[29:54] Yeah, it's very confusing.
[29:56] When two characters from different movies
[29:58] made 30 years apart have the same name.
[30:00] It's very confusing.
[30:01] So he goes to the theater, he has to get a bunch of, he has to find...
[30:05] Do you think when they're making Back to the Future, they're like,
[30:07] are you sure we should call him Marty?
[30:09] Because there was a character also named Marty 30 years ago.
[30:12] It's an Academy Award winning film.
[30:14] Many people say, Marty, they're going to remember that movie,
[30:17] remember it won an Academy Award, and leave immediately to go see that movie.
[30:22] Thankfully, they locked all the doors to the theaters.
[30:25] A big fire hazard.
[30:27] Could have turned out badly, but you know...
[30:29] You just assume the whole audience is gremlins, right?
[30:32] Yeah.
[30:34] That's what I always assume.
[30:36] That's why I go to so few movies, because I'm like,
[30:38] it's going to be full of gremlins.
[30:39] Wait a minute, that would be great.
[30:40] I should go.
[30:42] When they're tearing you apart, you're like, thank God.
[30:46] That's how I wanted to go.
[30:48] So he saw a dancer outside of this theater pick up something that the kid never dropped.
[30:53] So he goes there.
[30:54] There's only one way to find this dancer.
[30:56] Cash in his dollar for quarters and pump them into the peep show window.
[31:01] And this is kind of a farcical scene where every time he puts in a quarter
[31:06] and the steel door goes up to reveal the window into the room where naked women
[31:11] are just kind of hanging around talking to Johns on the phone,
[31:14] the wrong dancer keeps coming up to him.
[31:16] And he's going, no, her over there.
[31:18] Her over there.
[31:19] And then the door goes down.
[31:20] And he puts another quarter in and a different dancer comes by.
[31:22] This is James Brolin.
[31:23] He just can't catch a break.
[31:25] First, his daughter gets kidnapped by a psychopath.
[31:27] And then he just can't get the right woman's attention.
[31:30] So he breaks into the room.
[31:32] And here's one of the problems with James Brolin in this movie.
[31:35] He rarely says things like my daughter was kidnapped.
[31:38] I need your help.
[31:39] He goes up to the to the state, keeps saying the strippers.
[31:41] My little girl's been taken.
[31:43] My little girl.
[31:44] And they're like, I'll be your little girl.
[31:45] And it's like to say daughter.
[31:46] There's a word for it.
[31:47] There's a word everyone knows.
[31:48] That means the child that you are the dad of who's a girl.
[31:51] It's daughter.
[31:52] Well, the original screenplay was written by Abbott and Costello.
[31:56] And they're a lot more misunderstanding.
[31:59] I guess that makes sense.
[32:00] Because by this point, Abbott and Costello were too old to perform.
[32:03] So they were instead they were ghostwriting comedy routines for thriller movies.
[32:07] Yeah.
[32:08] And there would be scenes where someone was in the strip club where someone would be stripped behind Costello.
[32:14] And he'd be like.
[32:16] For those that don't want dance point behind him.
[32:19] And he is.
[32:20] He wanted Abbott to turn around.
[32:22] He's too scared of the strippers.
[32:24] I get it.
[32:25] But Dan, Dan, it sounded like he was just hissing like a cat.
[32:28] It sounded like I was hissing.
[32:29] Yeah.
[32:30] I turned into a cat person.
[32:31] Or a snake person.
[32:33] Well, that's like in that movie.
[32:35] Abbott and Costello meet the cat people where Abbott turns into one of the cat people.
[32:40] Written by Paul Schrader, right?
[32:43] Yep.
[32:44] Yep.
[32:45] So here's the funny thing.
[32:46] Right after heartbeats.
[32:47] It's one of the first times when your Paul Schrader references have made sense, right?
[32:52] Boom.
[32:53] Mean Uncle Paul.
[32:55] Wait, so he's your uncle?
[32:57] Yeah, Mean Uncle Paul, yeah.
[33:01] I just I want someday I want someone to miss I want this to get out there.
[33:05] So that's in Paul Schrader's obituary.
[33:07] It said like after direct after writing Taxi Driver and directing movies like Blue Collar and American Gigolo.
[33:14] He took a turn to comedy for heartbeats before returning back for movie films like First Reformed.
[33:20] There's some terrible editorial cartoon that's like, our heart is beeping in heaven now.
[33:28] I thought I wasn't even going to be that imaginative.
[33:30] I thought he was just at the pearly gates and St. Peter goes, welcome in, Mr. Schrader.
[33:33] I loved heartbeats.
[33:35] Yeah, exactly.
[33:37] So that's one of Stuart's urban legends.
[33:39] You can trace it right back to Stuart that Paul Schrader ate heartbeats.
[33:42] Anyway, he finally, you know, this fucking dude, you know, that dude is going to be fucking around on Facebook one of these days and come across this shit.
[33:49] And he's going to be he's going to be so mad.
[33:51] He'll close the browser where he's getting kicked out of an online poker game.
[33:59] So James Brolin, he breaks into the room where the dancers are and he gets beaten up by the bouncers.
[34:04] But the dancer he just wanted to talk to gives him what the kidnapper dropped.
[34:07] It's some sort of a dog medal.
[34:09] The kidnapper, he calls the mom of the rich girl he thinks he's kidnapped.
[34:12] What's a dog medal?
[34:14] You know, like a dog tag.
[34:16] But I think they call it a dog medal in the movie.
[34:19] Because of copyright or something?
[34:21] Yeah, because dog tags is a trademark.
[34:25] Yeah, I mean, well, dog medal just sounds like an award that you got for being the best dog or saving other dogs in combat or whatever, you know.
[34:35] Or it sounds like a super cool wrestler name, dog medal.
[34:38] Dog medal sounds pretty cool, Dan.
[34:40] So dog medal is a it's a strain of metal music in which they just have dog sounds instead of guitar.
[34:48] That already sounds.
[34:50] Wait, no, there's no guitar at all.
[34:52] They just use dogs for both melody and harmony.
[34:55] Yes.
[34:56] Different dogs.
[34:57] There's lead dog and there's bass dog.
[34:59] And instead of drums, it's it's cats.
[35:05] And you'll never guess what the lead singer is.
[35:08] I guess.
[35:09] Should I guess?
[35:10] Are you waiting for me to guess?
[35:11] You'll never guess.
[35:12] Just try it.
[35:13] You'll never guess.
[35:14] Is that a is it Sebastian Bach from Skid Row?
[35:18] Oh, you guessed it.
[35:19] OK, yeah, it is Sebastian Bach from Skid Row.
[35:21] I said you'd never guess it, but it was the first one.
[35:23] Yeah, you know, I'm good at games.
[35:25] Yeah.
[35:26] So Sebastian Bach from Skid Row, he was on Broadway for a little while and then he started up a new project called Dog Medal.
[35:31] It's him and some dogs and cats.
[35:33] Gilmore Girls, obviously.
[35:34] Obviously.
[35:36] He was in fucking Gilmore Girls.
[35:38] I'm not making that up.
[35:39] No, it's no.
[35:40] But your use of the of the.
[35:41] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[35:42] Now, he was he was part of Lane's band.
[35:44] Now, I say obviously, because I know that there's a lot of fans of Stars Hollow listening to this podcast right now.
[35:49] And they're like, why don't you talk about Sebastian Bach being Gilmore Girls earlier?
[35:53] You're right.
[35:54] That's true.
[35:55] They're all you know, they're all fans of the Gee-Gees and Paris and the rest of the gang.
[36:00] None of the dudes.
[36:01] There are no good dudes in that show.
[36:03] Even I know that.
[36:04] I know that.
[36:05] I watch the show regularly.
[36:06] OK, I've only seen a few episodes.
[36:07] OK, so the kidnapper calls the rich girl's mom and is like, hey, give me a million dollars.
[36:11] I'll start chopping up your daughter and sending her to you in pieces.
[36:13] The mom is justifiably confused because her daughter is right there in the room with her.
[36:18] But she still calls the police because that's still a scary call to get.
[36:21] Even if this person doesn't have your daughter, James Brolin.
[36:25] At this point, I'm trying to I was I was not taking notes while watching the movie.
[36:28] So I reconstructed this afterwards.
[36:31] And a sympathetic cop lets him leave because to go get his daughter.
[36:35] But just as he is escaping incognito, a doctor goes out.
[36:39] His name is Boyd.
[36:40] Doctor goes out.
[36:41] Mr. Boyd, I found the cane that you asked for.
[36:43] And the cops arrest him again.
[36:45] Now, this takes place in New York.
[36:47] So Mr. Boyd is a bird, right?
[36:49] Yeah, I knew that.
[36:52] Yeah, yeah.
[36:53] His name is probably Bird.
[36:54] They're calling him Boyd.
[36:55] Yeah.
[36:56] And yeah, he's teamed up with a woman named Goyle.
[36:58] Yeah.
[37:00] Sure.
[37:02] And for some reason they call Harry Styles Harry Stoyles.
[37:05] Oh, yeah.
[37:07] You know what that means?
[37:08] Again, anachronistic.
[37:09] So I guess what this also means is that Popeye Doyle in French Connection, his real name is Popeye Durrell.
[37:14] Mm hmm.
[37:15] OK.
[37:16] We're all learning something.
[37:17] Yeah.
[37:18] And when and when they're saying that food is spoiled, they're really saying that it's spiraled.
[37:24] Which I'm, you know, I don't know what that means, but.
[37:28] We'll never find out.
[37:29] So here's the thing.
[37:31] He goes to this.
[37:32] He gets booked to this police station.
[37:33] Who happens to be there?
[37:34] Oh, hold on.
[37:35] Hold on.
[37:36] Hold on.
[37:37] To spiral something out is to cause a chaotic or messy source to flow out in an outpouring.
[37:42] So.
[37:43] Accurate.
[37:44] You know.
[37:45] Yeah.
[37:46] If it's spiraled, apparently just dropped on the floor.
[37:48] Maybe.
[37:49] OK.
[37:50] Well, I mean, that'll ruin some food.
[37:51] Like if you're holding an egg.
[37:52] Yeah.
[37:54] The five second rule doesn't work for eggs.
[37:56] Just don't even try.
[37:58] It's a hard boiled egg.
[37:59] And, you know, the shell is still relatively intact.
[38:02] Yeah.
[38:03] Right.
[38:04] Yeah.
[38:05] Just dust it off and scarf down an egg.
[38:06] You know, treat yourself.
[38:07] Yeah.
[38:08] Treat yourself to an egg.
[38:11] Just like the egg council says.
[38:12] Yeah.
[38:13] The egg council says treat yourself.
[38:14] Hey America, treat yourself to an egg.
[38:16] Just brought to you by eggs.
[38:18] Treat yourself to a sweet treat.
[38:21] An egg.
[38:22] Treat yourself to an egg.
[38:23] Hey.
[38:24] The yolk's not.
[38:26] The white's not much.
[38:27] But the yolk's a nice.
[38:28] Hey.
[38:29] Hey.
[38:30] You had a hard day today.
[38:31] You had to take the subway.
[38:32] It was.
[38:33] It was super crowded.
[38:34] Bad day at work.
[38:35] And then your significant other dumped you.
[38:38] Hey.
[38:39] Take the edge off.
[38:40] Treat yourself to an egg.
[38:43] Yeah.
[38:44] Yeah.
[38:45] The pandemic.
[38:46] Political turmoil.
[38:47] War.
[38:48] Why don't you have an egg?
[38:50] Imagine a commercial for the egg council where someone is.
[38:52] Yeah.
[38:53] There's all this bad stuff.
[38:54] Turns off the news and goes.
[38:55] Ah.
[38:56] And then just opens up a carton of eggs and smiles.
[38:59] You've never let me down.
[39:01] Pulls a hard-boiled egg out of their pocket.
[39:05] Yeah.
[39:06] Because they keep.
[39:07] Because.
[39:08] Because.
[39:09] Because they're a hobo.
[39:10] That's a rapper idiot.
[39:19] And there's a narrator that just goes.
[39:21] Eggs in good times.
[39:22] They just seem to go together.
[39:24] No.
[39:25] No.
[39:26] Here's the other commercial.
[39:27] OK.
[39:28] Based on that rapper Stewart.
[39:29] So someone go.
[39:30] Oh.
[39:31] I have some candy in my pocket.
[39:32] And they pull it out.
[39:33] It's all sticky and covered in lint.
[39:34] And he goes.
[39:35] Oh.
[39:36] And the next egg pulls out a hard-boiled egg from his pocket and goes.
[39:38] It has its own rapper dummy.
[39:40] And then just flakes the shell off.
[39:42] Leaving little pieces of eggshell all over the floor of the theater.
[39:44] You're making me so hungry.
[39:47] And it has Kirk Cameron is the thing.
[39:49] He's like an egg.
[39:50] Hard-boiled egg comes with its own rapper.
[39:52] This is.
[39:53] This is.
[39:54] This proves.
[39:55] Proof of intelligent design.
[39:56] That if you cook an egg.
[39:57] It has a shell still.
[39:58] That.
[39:59] That.
[40:00] That.
[40:01] That.
[40:02] That.
[40:03] That.
[40:04] That.
[40:05] That.
[40:06] That.
[40:07] That.
[40:08] That.
[40:09] That.
[40:10] That.
[40:11] That.
[40:12] That.
[40:13] That.
[40:14] That.
[40:15] That.
[40:16] That.
[40:17] That.
[40:18] That.
[40:00] God in his infinite wisdom knew that we would figure out that you boil these.
[40:05] God had a plan, and that was us figuring out how to boil eggs.
[40:13] So anyway, he gets to this police station.
[40:17] Who does he run into?
[40:18] Uh-oh, it's his ex-partner, Dan Hedaya, a crooked cop whose life Boyd ruined when he
[40:24] reported him for doing corrupt things.
[40:26] Hedaya's like, oh, my family hates me, and all that stuff.
[40:29] He takes him to an interrogation room and gets ready to beat him up, which is silly.
[40:33] James Brolin is so much bigger than Dan Hedaya.
[40:36] The idea that Dan Hedaya is going to be able to take him is bonkers.
[40:39] He's got like a vibe, you know?
[40:41] I guess that's true.
[40:44] He's got the vibe of the dad in Clueless.
[40:46] Yeah, but he's like young.
[40:48] What did he look like when he was not the dad in Clueless?
[40:50] He looked almost exactly the same.
[40:51] Were his eyebrows still enormous?
[40:52] Yeah, this is like, this is about 15 years before he's the dad from Clueless, and he
[40:56] looks pretty much the same.
[40:59] So James Brolin beats him up and runs away.
[41:02] Now he's wanted for beating up a cop.
[41:04] Here is maybe the most amazing scene in the movie.
[41:07] Doesn't change his clothes, though, right?
[41:08] He's still wearing a plaid shirt and jeans.
[41:11] Same clothes.
[41:12] He doesn't think to disguise himself, shave off his beard.
[41:14] He's not exactly Harrison Ford in The Fugitive, you know, where Harrison Ford is like, the
[41:18] police are after me.
[41:19] I have a beard.
[41:20] Let me shave it off.
[41:21] It'll totally, it'll surprise them.
[41:23] They're looking for a man with a beard.
[41:25] They don't know that beards are removable.
[41:27] Police are after me.
[41:28] I will put a plastic green hat on my head and walk around the St. Patrick's Day parade.
[41:33] Yeah, that works, too.
[41:35] They think I'm not Irish, so this will confuse them.
[41:38] So do you realize Kirk Cameron, he also said he goes, intelligent design shows that God
[41:42] knew we might have to run from the police at some point.
[41:44] So he gave men facial hair that can be removed to create two different looks in instant disguise.
[41:49] Beards are not permanent.
[41:52] I'm sorry.
[41:53] I'm looking at Dan Hedaya's, you know, filmography.
[41:58] I'm wondering, other than The Craft, or not The Craft, sorry, other than Clueless.
[42:03] He was one of the four craft ladies?
[42:06] I don't know why I said The Craft.
[42:09] Other than Clueless.
[42:10] It does suggest an interesting, different version of Clueless, where instead of Alicia
[42:13] Silverstone making over Brittany Murphy, Brittany Murphy introduces Alicia Silverstone to magic.
[42:19] I think it's because I was scrolling by The Crew, which is a movie he's in.
[42:24] Other than Clueless, has he, you know, has he played like a, just like a nice, regular
[42:29] nice dude?
[42:30] Yeah, like Bloodstained Med.
[42:31] Yeah.
[42:32] The nicest.
[42:33] I mean, I just like, you know, he's great at what he does.
[42:38] I just, I pity the poor man.
[42:40] Even if what he does isn't pretty.
[42:43] Like, he's just like, I guess my thing is I play real creeps all the time.
[42:48] Yeah, it's called having a career, Dan.
[42:50] It's a fucking living, buddy.
[42:51] Yeah, come on.
[42:52] Yeah, I guess so.
[42:53] I mean, yeah, no, to be a character actor who plays creeps all the time, that would
[42:57] be pretty fun.
[42:58] Living the dream.
[42:59] And boy, what a creep he is because he chases after James Brolin into the streets with a
[43:02] shotgun in his hands, and he's just blasting away at him in real New York City streets.
[43:08] And James Brolin is just ducking under cars and stuff, and people are running and screaming.
[43:12] It's not really clear that the extras know this is a movie.
[43:16] It's very possible they just had Dan Hedaya blasting away with a shotgun full of blanks
[43:21] and then had windows rigged to explode.
[43:23] And it is, this scene is, it's just, it's the most over-the-top scene in the whole movie
[43:27] to me because it's super intense, and you're like, there is no way that no one's going
[43:31] to get hurt.
[43:32] He's just chasing after him out in the middle of the day.
[43:35] Again, it's just set during the day, even though the movie's called Night of the Juggler.
[43:38] Should be called Day of the Juggler, and actually it should be called Day of the Guy Who Wears
[43:40] a Plaid Shirt because there's no jugglers in it.
[43:44] It's just, it's an amazing scene.
[43:45] I mean, Day of the Kidnapper seems more accurate.
[43:48] Yeah, I mean, that's fun.
[43:50] And later on, they refer to him as the Mole Man, so they could have called it Day of the
[43:53] Mole Man.
[43:54] Okay.
[43:55] Yeah.
[43:56] Yeah, they should have.
[43:57] Anyway, that police lieutenant played by Clemenza, he is wiretapping calls from the kidnapper,
[44:03] but he gets the kidnapper paranoid because the guy who's running the tracer on the call
[44:08] makes a lot of noise for some reason.
[44:09] He like knocks over a pile of videotapes or something, and now the kidnapper doesn't trust
[44:13] anybody.
[44:14] Boyd, he's got this dog tag, this dog medal for heroic service in protection of dogs.
[44:20] He takes it to the animal control offices in the city because he wants to look up the
[44:23] owner's name and address, and he gets helped by a beautiful young woman played by Julie
[44:27] Carmen, who you will know, of course, as the female lead in In the Mouth of Madness.
[44:31] And she decides, kind of just by looking it in James Brolin's eyes, she decides he's a
[44:36] good man and she's going to help him.
[44:38] And she becomes his kind of sidekick through most of the rest of the movie until she kind
[44:42] of disappears at a certain point.
[44:43] Probably to go read some Sutter Cane.
[44:46] Yeah, she gets her job as an editor, editing Sutter Cane, and things went downhill from
[44:51] there.
[44:52] So they find the name of the guy, his name is Gus Soltic, and he lives up in the South
[44:56] Bronx.
[44:57] She goes, oh, that's near where my neighborhood is.
[44:59] It's bad.
[45:00] You should come with me.
[45:01] And they bond on the subway up there.
[45:03] She's clearly, I guess, supposed to be attracted to him, but the movie does not have them build
[45:07] a romance within minutes of meeting, really.
[45:10] So I give the movie credit for that.
[45:12] Unlike the movie Brain Smasher, a love story, in which Terry Hatcher falls for Andrew Dice
[45:19] Clay within like 40 minutes of knowing him.
[45:23] She sees how good he is at smashing brains.
[45:25] It's hard to find a good man.
[45:27] All the good men who smash brains are either gay or taken.
[45:29] So you got to jump on the one that's there, you know.
[45:32] Dan, when you smash brains, how does that pay?
[45:34] Is that a good job?
[45:35] Do you get benefits?
[45:36] How does it pay?
[45:37] I mean, it's on commission, is the weird thing.
[45:40] Wow.
[45:41] Okay, how does that work?
[45:43] Well, you got to find someone who will pay you to smash a brain.
[45:47] Well, that's not commission.
[45:48] That's a salary position.
[45:49] And then you take a cut of all the brains you can smash.
[45:53] I don't understand.
[45:54] I mean, if it works, it works.
[45:58] I'm not an economist.
[45:59] I don't need to know how brain smashing functions.
[46:00] If Elliot can't understand it, maybe his brains are already been smashed.
[46:04] Well, it's possible.
[46:05] It just sounds like gibberish.
[46:07] So anyway, the kidnapper goes, I want you to leave a million dollars for me in this
[46:11] parks department structure.
[46:12] It's right next to where a big outdoor rock concert is being set up.
[46:16] And the other cops are like, he'll show up and we'll just shoot him with snipers in the
[46:19] middle of this crowded rock concert.
[46:21] And Richard Casalano was like, that's a terrible idea.
[46:23] But he said he leaves a cop to wait in the shadows of the room where the money is going
[46:28] to be.
[46:29] Boyd and Maria get uptown and it's like, you know what?
[46:31] This movie set in kind of scuzzy New York.
[46:33] It's from the 70s.
[46:34] The movie hasn't been, it hasn't shown us like kind of a racist caricature of a street
[46:39] gang.
[46:40] It's kind of a racist caricature of a taxi cab driver, but not so much of a street gang.
[46:44] Well, here they are.
[46:45] It's time for them to show up.
[46:46] And they're mad at James Brolin because they think he's stealing one of their women and
[46:49] they chase after him and he runs away and eventually finds the location of Saltic, who
[46:54] the locals call the mole man.
[46:56] He gets there just as Saltic is taking his daughter out to go to the money handoff and
[47:00] Boyd starts chasing him through the rubble of the South Bronx.
[47:02] But then that street gang shows up.
[47:03] There are roughly 500 members of the street gang and they all try to kill Boyd and he's
[47:07] just fighting them off like crazy until the police show up and start arresting everybody.
[47:13] And Boyd, even though he is wanted for assaulting a police officer, getting into a fight in
[47:18] a porn theater, also jumping the turnstile, maybe the worst, because when he does that,
[47:22] he's stealing from everybody.
[47:24] By stealing the fare that he owes to the MTA, he's stealing from everybody who uses the
[47:28] subway.
[47:29] Wow.
[47:30] You've been talking to your buddy Eric Adams.
[47:31] Anyway.
[47:32] Anyway, so Eric Adams and I met at this Bitcoin convention and he had a lot of interesting
[47:35] things to say about crime prevention.
[47:37] Yeah.
[47:38] He told you to check inside the walls of your kids' rooms if there's any contraband.
[47:45] Yeah.
[47:46] So with Eric, it's been so liberating being in Los Angeles and not in New York that I
[47:50] don't really keep tabs of Eric Adams.
[47:52] And it's nice having a different mayor here that I can dislike as opposed to New York.
[47:57] Dislike can be disappointed in.
[47:58] And we're we have a mayoral election coming up.
[48:00] The primary is going on right now.
[48:02] Today is the primary election day.
[48:03] I already mailed in my ballot last week and you were saying you can't wait for Caruso
[48:08] to win.
[48:09] Right.
[48:10] I was saying what I really want.
[48:11] I want this.
[48:12] I thought it was David Caruso.
[48:13] That's the thing.
[48:14] That's why I voted for him, because I thought he was going to deliver the state of the city
[48:16] address with sunglasses on and then take them off and put them on when he had puns.
[48:20] No, Stewart's right.
[48:21] I really want the city to be run like a like a weird outdoor mall that feels like the village
[48:26] from the prisoner.
[48:28] So anyway, just kidding.
[48:29] I didn't vote for Caruso.
[48:31] So there anyway, Boyd says on the radio, hey, this guy is Celtic.
[48:36] He works in the city tunnels.
[48:37] This is something that we learned that I didn't bring up till now.
[48:39] He's going to use the tunnel system to get to where the money is.
[48:42] He's not going to go around.
[48:43] Yeah, that's what they call the mole man.
[48:45] And so now the kidnappers on the train to the way the concert's going to be.
[48:49] He's super creepy.
[48:50] He starts telling Boyd's daughter that he's getting the money so the two of them can run
[48:54] off and live together in love.
[48:55] It's really gross.
[48:56] It's terrible.
[48:58] The kidnapper gets the handoff area, almost immediately shoots the cop who's lying in
[49:02] wait for him there.
[49:03] And this is it.
[49:04] Boyd shows up and it is time for him to take down this kidnapper.
[49:07] Oh, yeah.
[49:08] The kidnapper runs into the maintenance tunnels of the city.
[49:11] This is where he's at his strongest.
[49:13] And he uses every trap he can think of.
[49:14] He's releasing steam.
[49:16] There's something with electricity.
[49:17] It goes on forever.
[49:18] And I was watching this movie on YouTube because it's not it's not that easy to get a hold
[49:22] of otherwise.
[49:23] And the visuals were a little blurry as well.
[49:26] Also dark.
[49:27] It was kind of hard to tell what was going on during the roughly nine minutes straight
[49:30] of them fighting in the subways.
[49:32] It was to be fair.
[49:33] The movie lost a lot of momentum because it was missed.
[49:36] The Ninja Turtles coming in and wondering where their pizza was to assume that's what
[49:43] happened.
[49:44] So you think the Ninja Turtles are foolish enough that they they just tell the pizza
[49:47] guy come to the sewers and then they're just sitting around baffled by the fact that the
[49:51] pizza has not arrived?
[49:52] Well, if the first movie is any indication, they tell them to go to like a certain address
[49:59] and.
[50:00] and like a half or a quarter or whatever it is.
[50:04] And then they're like, hey, look down here.
[50:06] And yeah, if I recall, also, they don't tip him
[50:11] because he's a little late, which is pretty shitty.
[50:15] That's fucked up, dude.
[50:16] Michelangelo's part.
[50:17] Those turtles, they're real, they're real.
[50:18] Well, it's because they've never had
[50:20] to work a service job before, you know?
[50:22] Yeah. No, no.
[50:23] They've gotten pretty sweet.
[50:24] Just ninjas.
[50:26] Well, that's a guild.
[50:27] That's like a, that's a skilled laborer job.
[50:29] Yeah.
[50:30] Have you guys ever had this happen to you?
[50:31] This happened to me once at my credit card company.
[50:33] I was so impressed.
[50:33] That's why I'm sticking with them.
[50:35] Their fraud prevention alert system.
[50:37] They saw that I had paid for a pizza party
[50:40] for a number of kids.
[50:41] I'd bought 10 or 11 pizzas,
[50:42] and they just wanted to check and make sure
[50:44] that a Ninja Turtle had not stolen my credit card.
[50:45] And I really appreciated that they did that.
[50:48] Yeah. It was great.
[50:49] Well, because they saw the topics listed
[50:50] and it was ice cream and anchovies
[50:53] and like, just like kernels of corn for some reason.
[50:57] And you're like, this is popular in Europe, but not here.
[51:00] They got algorithms that pick up that sort of thing
[51:03] when a Ninja Turtle tries to order pizza.
[51:05] Yeah, it happens.
[51:07] And they suggest movies to them that they want to watch.
[51:09] I know that's what algorithms do.
[51:12] Anyway, do you think there's, there's-
[51:14] And they combat LeBron James
[51:17] in the Toon World or whatever, right?
[51:20] Did that happen?
[51:21] Oh, algorithms.
[51:22] I thought you meant Ninja Turtles.
[51:24] I was like, I don't remember Ninja Turtles in Space Jam.
[51:26] Algorithms do that.
[51:27] That's true.
[51:28] Yeah. What a movie, that Space Jam movie.
[51:30] It was on, it was, it was on the airplane recently
[51:33] and my, and my son was like, that we were on.
[51:35] My son was like, oh, Space Jam.
[51:36] Should I watch that?
[51:37] And I was like, why?
[51:38] We already have an HBO Max subscription.
[51:40] Like, you don't need an advertisement for that.
[51:41] And he's like, but look, it's the nuns from the devils.
[51:43] You don't have to be on a plane for this, Sammy.
[51:46] He was, he was watching,
[51:47] he was pointing out all the Easter eggs.
[51:48] He was going, there's baby Jane, Betty Davis herself.
[51:53] It's my friend, the Droogs.
[51:55] Droogs?
[51:56] All my favorite characters.
[51:58] Yeah.
[51:59] So the, the nuns from the devils is,
[52:02] that's, I mean, it's almost worth it.
[52:04] The movie exists just for that, being in there.
[52:06] Hmm.
[52:08] There's Malcolm McDowell as Caligula,
[52:11] right behind LeBron James.
[52:13] Anyway.
[52:13] We're hanging out with the mask.
[52:16] So the, so the, the fight goes on forever.
[52:19] Eventually, Brolin defeats him.
[52:21] I couldn't tell if he kills him or not.
[52:23] The movie, like I said, it gets really dark here.
[52:25] Boyd takes his daughter back up to the surface.
[52:26] And she says, I still don't want to move to Connecticut.
[52:29] And he goes, you're just like your old man.
[52:31] And then I guess they go off and watch that rock concert
[52:34] as odd guests at the police department.
[52:36] Now, what do you think would have happened
[52:37] in the Space Jam movie,
[52:39] if the mask had lost his, his magical mask
[52:42] and then Caligula had picked it up and put it on?
[52:44] Do you think he'd still say smokin'
[52:46] and somebody stopped me and shit like that?
[52:48] Yeah, but he'd say it in Latin.
[52:49] Uh, he might say smokin'.
[52:51] I don't think Caligula was worried
[52:53] about someone stopping him.
[52:55] That's true.
[52:56] It's kind of the point of the story
[52:57] is that he wasn't worried about that.
[52:58] He did what he had.
[52:59] Yeah.
[53:01] I mean, he certainly wouldn't encourage anyone to stop him.
[53:03] Shhh.
[53:05] Like, maybe he would dare them to stop him.
[53:07] Maybe that's part of the fantasy, yeah.
[53:09] Try to stop the great Caligula.
[53:11] When he dressed up in a, dressed up in a zoot suit
[53:13] and then made his horse a senator.
[53:14] Yeah, that's, uh.
[53:15] Yeah.
[53:16] What else, I wonder what else Mask Caligula would do.
[53:19] I wish I remembered more of what happens
[53:20] in the movie, The Mask.
[53:22] Well, he would probably lead his army
[53:23] on an invasion of England
[53:25] and then just pick up some stones
[53:26] and then go home, right?
[53:27] Oh, they were like seashells, right?
[53:29] He just picked up seashells.
[53:30] So here's the thing.
[53:31] I've heard conflicting explanations of that story.
[53:32] One is that he had gone mad
[53:34] and he thought that he had defeated the sea.
[53:36] And the other was that he was so disappointed in his army
[53:39] that he was like, you know what?
[53:41] We're gonna go fight the sea.
[53:42] Pick up some seashells.
[53:44] That's our treasure.
[53:44] You guys did a great job.
[53:46] That was kind of sarcastic.
[53:47] There's a lot of, there's a lot of Caligula stories
[53:49] that might've been, like when he made his horse a senator,
[53:51] he might've been like, just insulting the other senators.
[53:54] Not like, not actually doing it for realsies.
[53:57] That the point of it was that he got to England
[54:00] and he's like, this is the beaches you have?
[54:02] Ah, yeah. These are your beaches?
[54:05] It's just rocks, rocks and shells.
[54:08] Let's go home, guys.
[54:09] Why did I come here?
[54:10] Italy has great beaches.
[54:11] What am I doing here?
[54:12] Everybody here vacations in Spain.
[54:18] Anyway, so who else?
[54:19] So who, I forgot, who else?
[54:21] What other characters were in the background of Space Jam?
[54:24] What other great Warner Brothers properties?
[54:26] What other great characters from history?
[54:29] What if the Iron Giant got ahold of that mask, huh?
[54:33] Or what if Caligula got ahold of the Iron Giant?
[54:35] Oh boy, that would be trouble.
[54:39] So much trouble.
[54:40] So, and now this of course is retconning Caligula
[54:43] as a Warner Brothers release, which of course it wasn't.
[54:47] Yeah, the CEO of Warner Brothers, Bob Guccione.
[54:51] Yeah, Bob Guccione sold it.
[54:53] It was a big mistake when they appointed
[54:54] Bob Guccione head of Warner Brothers
[54:56] and suddenly all the Looney Tunes characters
[54:58] were just golden showering each other.
[54:59] It's the future of animation.
[55:01] Trust me.
[55:02] Iron Giant's famous line, I am not a senator.
[55:06] Anyway, so that's Night of the Juggler.
[55:08] Here's what I'm gonna tell you about this movie.
[55:09] It is not as classy as you're taking a Pelham 1, 2, 3
[55:13] is or your Dog Day Afternoons is,
[55:15] but it's also not quite as gross
[55:18] as some of the real exploitation-y movies
[55:21] made in New York at the time.
[55:22] It's kind of betwixt and between.
[55:24] And as a result, it's kind of a little too rough for fun
[55:28] and not quite intense enough for making you feel bad fun.
[55:33] Like when you watch an exploitation movie
[55:34] and you feel bad afterwards.
[55:36] But guys, here's the question.
[55:38] Are you glad you missed your movie?
[55:40] Are you sad you missed the movie?
[55:42] Or do you had to un-miss the movie?
[55:44] Is that what it was?
[55:46] Yes.
[55:49] I'll say that once you started talking about it
[55:53] and the title sunk in with the plot together,
[55:58] I realized that this is a movie that I had heard about
[56:00] before on the Pure Cinema podcast,
[56:03] which is a good podcast about a lot of genre movies.
[56:09] It's often genre movies, not always,
[56:14] but also often little scene movies.
[56:19] And I would say that, I would criticize it
[56:24] for sometimes being the kind of thing
[56:27] where they recommend something
[56:28] just because they're such movie lovers
[56:31] that they want to recommend something obscure and new
[56:35] and perhaps overvalue the novelty of it.
[56:39] But then again, that's my whole letterboxd diary is me.
[56:45] Giving maybe one star too many to various things
[56:49] because they're on the outskirts
[56:51] and I find it interesting for some obscure reasons.
[56:54] So anyway, the whole point is
[56:56] I was already kind of interested in it.
[56:59] So I would say I had to not miss it,
[57:04] which is that I will look it up at some point.
[57:06] Stuart.
[57:09] I feel that Elliot's description, while exciting,
[57:14] which having heard Elliot describe many movies
[57:16] over the years, you have a talent for it, sir.
[57:20] I also can tell that I don't think I would enjoy
[57:23] watching the movie as much as I enjoyed
[57:25] listening to you describe it to me.
[57:27] I think it is, I would, to be fair,
[57:30] I think it is a movie that is probably more fun
[57:32] to hear about or read about than it is to actually watch.
[57:36] So I'm going to say I'm glad I missed it
[57:39] because there's only so many kernels of sand
[57:42] in this hourglass, baby.
[57:44] Would it change your thinking at all
[57:45] if I mentioned that the father of the rich girl
[57:50] who is not kidnapped is played by Marco St. John,
[57:54] who as Wikipedia describes, is known for his role
[57:56] as the horny truck driver in Thelma and Louise.
[57:59] You can kind of imagine that it's the same character
[58:02] who lost his real estate riches and became a truck driver
[58:05] and then had his truck blown up.
[58:06] Would that help?
[58:07] I will say I do want to go and find the scene
[58:13] where Dan Hedaya is just blasting shit
[58:15] with a shotgun somewhere on YouTube, maybe.
[58:17] That is, that scene is definitely worth watching.
[58:20] He's just going bananas with a shotgun
[58:25] and it is, it's very scary.
[58:27] It's a very scary scene because you're like,
[58:29] I kind of believe Dan Hedaya did this for real
[58:31] and they just had to write it into the movie.
[58:33] Yeah.
[58:35] Okay, well, thanks for enlivening our life
[58:39] with another movie that we have missed.
[58:42] No problem.
[58:43] Guys, I was so glad to share it with you.
[58:45] And listeners, I was even more glad to share it with you.
[58:47] As always, I should say this more often,
[58:48] I apologize for anything I said during this podcast
[58:51] that was either insulting or unfunny.
[58:55] Oh, we can just do that?
[58:56] Yeah, I'm doing it now.
[58:57] Oh, that's how you make sure that your foot's on base?
[59:01] Yeah, exactly.
[59:03] I'll apologize for much of my life then.
[59:05] Yeah, okay, that's good.
[59:07] We can do that.
[59:08] But this is the end of another
[59:10] Miss That Movie Mini Manny episode of the Flophouse Podcast.
[59:15] I've been Elliot Kalin and joining me on this tour
[59:19] through the torrid underbelly of 70s New York has been.
[59:24] Me, Dan McCoy.
[59:25] And me, Stuart Wellington.
[59:28] We'll be back next week with a regular episode
[59:31] where we talk about a more recent movie
[59:33] that all of us have seen, stay tuned.
[59:35] It's gonna be probably like this
[59:38] It's gonna be stay tuned?
[59:39] No, no, it's not gonna be stay tuned.
[59:41] Or maybe, no, maybe it will be.
[59:42] Stay tuned, starring the late John Ritter, sure.
[59:45] No, it's not gonna be stay tuned, everybody.
[59:46] But stay tuned to this podcast,
[59:50] which will not be about stay tuned, next week
[59:53] on the Flophouse.
[59:55] Thanks to everyone at Maxwell Funner Network.
[59:57] Thanks to our editor-producer, Alex Smith.
[1:00:00] And thanks to you. Good night.
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Elliott takes us on another journey through a movie ONE of us have seen, but the others haven't -- in this case, the gritty crime thriller Night of the Juggler, a movie completely devoid of juggling.

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