FH Mini 140 - Halloween Costumes on Film, with Hallie Haglund

Elliott Kalan

[0:00] Hello, everyone, and welcome to the Flophouse Mini.

[0:08] It's the day after Halloween, so we're still doing Halloween stuff.

[0:15] If you're listening to this right now, you probably have a belly full of candy.

[0:19] You're still wearing whatever part of your Halloween costume you didn't have to take off to have sex in.

[0:23] But I want you to continue that half-Halloween spirit through this episode.

[0:30] I'm joined, of course, by my post-Halloween ghoulish companions.

Dan McCoy

[0:36] Dan Macabra McCoy.

Elliott Kalan

[0:39] Burt Spookington.

[0:42] That's Stuart Wellington, and we're joined by a special guest.

Hallie Haglund

[0:46] Howley Haglund.

Elliott Kalan

[0:50] Not puns, exactly, just kind of a spooky way to pronounce the name.

Dan McCoy

[0:54] She emphasized the howl and the hag part of it.

[1:00] That's fair.

Hallie Haglund

[1:01] I was born Halloween.

[1:03] I'm a born Halloween pun.

[1:05] I don't even have to try.

Elliott Kalan

[1:06] That's true.

[1:07] Hallie-ween.

[1:09] Hallie-ween.

[1:10] That's what we should have done.

[1:11] I should have done a mini where it was Hallie-ween, and it's just all about we all dress as Hallie.

[1:16] Especially last week, we talked a lot about what Hallie used to dress like when she was young.

[1:19] Yeah.

[1:20] Not now when she's even younger.

[1:20] Now we know how to do it.

[1:22] Yeah.

[1:23] So, I wanted to use this mini because Halloween, when you're listening to this episode, is technically probably over.

[1:30] But the Halloween spirit continues all year long.

[1:32] Unless you're a Halloween spirit store, in which case you're closed for much of the year.

[1:36] But then you open up around, what, August?

[1:39] You know?

[1:40] All important stuff.

[1:41] Late July.

[1:43] Used to be a Forever 21.

[1:46] But it's dead now.

[1:48] Forever didn't last as long as it used to.

[1:51] So, they're dead at Forever 21.

[1:55] So, I'm going to talk about Halloween movies.

[1:59] The Halloween movies.

[2:00] But not necessarily the Halloween movies you might be thinking of.

[2:05] Okay.

[2:05] There's the Halloween movies, yes.

[2:07] The series of films that are mostly about masked slasher Michael Myers.

[2:11] But for movies supposedly set on-

[2:12] From Saturday Night Live?

[2:14] Yes.

[2:15] Yeah.

[2:15] It's about Mike Myers.

[2:17] These costumes are great.

[2:18] After the failure of the love guru goes on a slashing spree.

[2:20] Yeah.

[2:21] Mm-hmm.

[2:21] But he does it in the cat in the hat makeup and with the Linda Richmond voice.

[2:24] Oh, that is scary.

[2:25] Yeah.

[2:25] It's very scary.

[2:26] Is he an axe murderer or did he marry one?

[2:28] I don't remember.

[2:28] He merely married an axe murderer.

[2:29] Okay.

[2:29] Yeah.

[2:31] Although he doesn't-

[2:32] In the movie, he doesn't really marry an axe murderer.

[2:34] No.

[2:34] We don't want to spoil what the truth is.

[2:37] He must not spoil the end of-

[2:38] The twist ending of someone marrying an axe murderer.

[2:42] There's a big sign up at the box that says,

[2:44] Does not actually marry axe murderer.

[2:45] No refunds.

[2:47] But for movies supposedly set around Halloween,

[2:51] these so-called Halloween movies,

[2:53] they don't have a lot of the best part of Halloween,

[2:56] which is costumes, right?

[2:58] There's the one Halloween movie set,

[2:59] the third one that's about the masks, right?

[3:01] And Mike Myers wears a sheet in the first one at one point,

[3:04] but there's not really a lot of like Halloween dress-up in the Halloween.

Dan McCoy

[3:08] Well, I mean, he's wearing a mask at all times as well.

Elliott Kalan

[3:11] If you wear it at all times,

[3:12] it stops becoming a costume, just becomes his face, you know?

Dan McCoy

[3:15] It's his-

[3:16] It's a way of like albino-

[3:16] Don't we all wear masks?

[3:17] Shatner costume.

Elliott Kalan

[3:20] Yeah, I feel like there's-

[3:21] It's a-

[3:21] It's not exactly-

[3:22] It stops being a costume when you just wear it all the time, you know?

[3:25] Yeah.

[3:25] Like Rorschach, that's his real face.

[3:27] What's underneath it is the mask.

[3:29] True, true.

[3:29] So I wanted to talk about other movies set around Halloween

[3:34] that have Halloween costumes in them

[3:36] that really bring their costume game.

[3:38] So today on The Flophouse,

[3:39] I want to talk to you guys about these Halloween movies,

[3:42] and for each one,

[3:42] I want you to rate the costumes in the movie,

[3:45] and I want you to tell me,

[3:46] how would we turn this actual Halloween movie

[3:48] into a part of the Halloween movie franchise?

[3:51] How do we make this a Mike Myers Halloween movie?

[3:54] So I'm going to share some visuals with you

[3:56] that the audience at home will not see,

[3:57] but that's okay.

[3:58] I'm going to have

[3:59] describing Dan McCoy

[4:02] and

[4:02] Stuart, word picture Wellington,

[4:06] and maybe perhaps even

[4:07] Hallie,

[4:08] hey, can you tell us what this looks like?

[4:09] Haglund's telling us what these costumes look like

Dan McCoy

[4:12] and describing them.

Elliott Kalan

[4:13] So let me just share this.

[4:15] Hold on.

[4:15] Oh, you know what?

[4:15] I have to open up this.

[4:17] Let me make this file.

[4:20] How much of this do you think Alex is keeping in?

[4:22] Stretch this out.

[4:23] Yeah, that's great.

[4:24] That's good.

[4:25] I had it open before.

[4:26] So Stuart, what are you up to?

Stuart Wellington

[4:27] What do you got on tap for the rest of the day?

[4:30] Yeah, well,

[4:30] I got to take a shower,

[4:32] probably hit the treadmill first.

[4:34] Yeah, in that order, probably.

[4:36] Yeah, probably.

[4:37] Treadmill then.

[4:37] Then put on some clothes

[4:39] and then head to the Alamo Draft House

[4:41] where I'm watching Deathstalker.

[4:44] For the, how many times will this be?

[4:46] This is the third time this week, yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[4:47] Okay, so we're going to start

[4:48] with the first of our Halloween movies.

[4:50] That's right, it's Karate Kid from 1984.

[4:52] Guys, can you see this visual right here?

[4:55] Yes, we can.

[4:56] So can you, Dan,

[4:57] can you describe for me

[4:58] what are the classic,

[4:59] iconic Halloween costumes

[5:00] from Karate Kid?

Dan McCoy

[5:02] Well, I'm going to start with the bad kids first.

[5:05] Of course, the...

Elliott Kalan

[5:06] Okay, not the way the pictures

[5:07] are ordered on the slide,

[5:08] but that's fine, yeah.

Dan McCoy

[5:09] Okay, the Cobra Kai dojo

[5:11] is wearing some skeleton costumes.

[5:15] It's like a body suit

[5:17] with all of the torso and leg bones on it.

[5:21] And then they've done makeup

[5:22] for the faces

[5:24] to make it look like

[5:26] they've got eye sockets

[5:27] rather than eyes, noses, et cetera.

Stuart Wellington

[5:29] They have like a white hood

[5:31] to give the impression

[5:31] of a bald cat.

[5:33] Well, one of them does.

[5:34] Yeah.

[5:35] One of them is a skeleton with hair.

Elliott Kalan

[5:37] Well, that's because the hood came off.

[5:38] The bald cat came off.

[5:41] How would you...

[5:41] Well, first,

[5:42] how would you guys rate these costumes?

[5:43] Before we go on to Danny's costume,

[5:45] how would you rate

[5:46] these skeleton costumes?

[5:48] What's the rating scale?

[5:49] The rating scale goes from zero,

[5:51] which means bad costume,

[5:53] to ten, which means

[5:55] is that a real skeleton

[5:56] walking towards me?

[5:57] What a costume.

Dan McCoy

[5:59] I'm going to go with seven.

[6:00] This is not like a fancy costume,

[6:03] but it's a good execution

[6:04] of like a classic costume.

[6:07] Like these are, you know,

[6:09] pretty menacing skeleton guys.

Stuart Wellington

[6:11] Yeah, I'm a sucker

[6:12] for something that looks like

[6:14] a classic costume

[6:15] that's still a costume.

[6:16] Yes.

[6:17] And so, yeah,

[6:19] I'll say a seven as well.

Hallie Haglund

[6:20] Yeah.

[6:21] Yeah.

[6:22] Spooky.

[6:23] I mean,

Elliott Kalan

[6:24] spook me.

[6:25] I would have gone higher.

[6:26] That's what you need.

[6:26] I think what really tips this over

[6:29] to me is the group aspect of it.

[6:30] There's only two of them

[6:31] in this picture here,

[6:32] but there's at least,

[6:33] I think,

[6:33] four of these guys

[6:34] wearing these costumes.

[6:35] Well, how do we know that?

[6:36] Because you've seen Karate Kid.

[6:39] But it's a,

[6:40] I like the idea

[6:41] that they all coordinated.

[6:42] We're all going to play skeletons.

[6:43] We're going to jump around

[6:44] and kick this other guy's butt.

[6:46] And I think the skeletons do.

[6:48] And I have to assume

[6:49] that they practice

[6:50] the skeleton dance

[6:51] from the Disney cartoon

[6:52] of the same name.

[6:53] We just don't see it

[6:54] in the movie.

[6:54] I think it's a great

[6:55] skeleton costume.

[6:56] Dan, why don't you tell me

[6:57] about the other main costume

[6:58] people may remember

[6:59] from Karate Kid?

Dan McCoy

[7:00] Sure.

[7:01] This is a shower costume.

[7:04] This is a,

[7:05] you've got a sort of

[7:07] a circular frame

[7:10] from which a shower curtain

[7:12] has been hung,

[7:13] a polka dotted shower curtain.

[7:15] And then you've got

[7:15] the shower head

[7:16] poking out on top

[7:18] with, I think,

[7:19] this sort of like streamers,

[7:21] like sparkly streamer

[7:22] simulating the water.

[7:24] And of course,

[7:25] in the movie,

[7:25] this is functional

[7:26] because it allows Daniel

[7:28] to go to the Halloween party

[7:30] hidden from the Cobra Kai

[7:33] who want to kick his ass.

[7:35] And he can, you know,

[7:36] pull Elizabeth's shoe

[7:37] inside this shower thing.

[7:39] For canoodling?

[7:40] Yeah, canoodling.

[7:41] Making a shoo-er.

[7:42] Yeah.

[7:43] You know,

[7:44] maybe not a great costume

[7:45] for the people

[7:46] around this shower.

[7:47] It takes up a lot of space.

[7:49] But otherwise,

[7:51] very clever.

Elliott Kalan

[7:52] Yeah, so Stuart,

[7:52] give me your rating

[7:53] on this costume.

Stuart Wellington

[7:54] Yeah, I mean,

[7:55] I think this is a great costume.

[7:56] I think it was probably

[7:57] pretty hard to see

[7:58] what's going on

[7:59] outside of the costume.

[8:02] I mean,

[8:03] for accuracy,

[8:03] this is clearly

[8:04] like an eight.

[8:05] Like,

[8:06] that's a pretty impressive thing.

[8:07] It does look like

[8:07] there's just a shower

Elliott Kalan

[8:08] in the middle of the room.

[8:09] It doesn't seem functional.

[8:09] I didn't even know

[8:10] that was a costume,

[8:11] honestly.

[8:11] You just thought

[8:13] that all these people

[8:14] were waiting around

[8:15] to shower in their costumes?

Dan McCoy

[8:17] They want to shower

[8:18] off the makeup

[8:18] that they have on

[8:19] from their costumes.

Elliott Kalan

[8:20] That makes sense.

[8:21] So, Hallie,

[8:21] you thought it was,

[8:22] would you give it a high mark

[8:23] for being that?

[8:24] I would give it,

[8:24] yeah,

Hallie Haglund

[8:24] I would give it,

[8:25] let's go nine.

[8:27] I love a homemade costume.

[8:30] Like,

[8:30] that's my objection.

[8:31] The skeleton one,

[8:32] you can buy that at a store.

[8:33] But someone

[8:34] who is Daniel

[8:35] put a lot of effort

[8:37] into making

[8:37] that shower.

Elliott Kalan

[8:38] You don't know

[8:39] that the Cobra Kai's guy

[8:40] didn't screen print

[8:41] those skeleton body stockings?

[8:42] Maybe they did that

[8:43] in the school screen printing lab.

Hallie Haglund

[8:44] I gave it a seven,

[8:45] but I'm giving the shower

[8:47] four and nine.

[8:47] I love it.

[8:48] And Dan,

[8:48] what about you?

Dan McCoy

[8:49] Yeah,

[8:50] I'm also going to give it a nine.

[8:51] It's clever.

[8:52] It's well executed.

[8:53] If I was around it,

[8:55] again,

[8:55] like,

[8:56] it takes up a lot of space.

[8:57] I wouldn't necessarily like it.

[8:58] But,

[8:58] you know,

[8:59] if Ralph Macchio

[9:00] pulled you inside

[9:01] the canoodle,

[9:02] you'd be a great place

[9:03] to canoodle

[9:03] with Ralph Macchio.

[9:05] But also,

[9:05] I'm thinking of Dan.

[9:06] Dan.

[9:07] But also,

[9:08] like,

[9:08] you know,

[9:09] if you're wearing this thing

[9:10] and you're not hiding

[9:12] from Cobra Kai,

[9:13] it has the advantage of,

[9:14] there are a lot of

[9:15] costumes you could wear

[9:16] that make it very hard

[9:17] to drink or eat.

[9:18] He's like,

[9:19] basically just like

[9:20] in normal clothes

[9:21] inside the shower.

[9:22] So that's convenient.

Hallie Haglund

[9:23] And Dan,

[9:24] you're kind of shy.

[9:25] So it's a nice costume

[9:26] for a shy person.

[9:28] Mm-hmm.

Elliott Kalan

[9:29] You could pretend

[9:29] to be somebody else

[9:30] while you're in it.

[9:31] Oh, yeah,

[9:32] it's me,

[9:32] Bruno.

[9:33] Yeah.

[9:33] And suddenly,

[9:34] you're the most popular

[9:34] guy at the party.

[9:35] Yeah.

[9:36] You play the harmonica.

[9:37] I'm surprised

[9:38] because I have to say,

[9:39] my opinion of the shower,

[9:40] I would give it like a two,

[9:42] this costume.

[9:42] Wow.

[9:43] It looks like a real shower,

[9:44] but one,

[9:45] it is a pain

[9:46] for both him

[9:47] and everyone around him.

[9:48] He has trouble

[9:49] seeing out of it.

[9:50] People are bumping

[9:50] into it all the time.

[9:51] But also,

[9:52] what's fun about

[9:53] a shower?

[9:55] Like,

[9:55] what's fun about

[9:55] being a shower

[9:56] for Halloween?

[9:57] A skeleton?

[9:58] Cool.

[9:59] A shower?

[9:59] What?

[10:00] No way.

[10:00] Why don't you just be

[10:01] an ironing board

[10:02] for Halloween?

[10:03] Why don't you just

[10:03] be a toaster for Halloween?

[10:04] My son was a washing machine

Hallie Haglund

[10:06] for his first Halloween costume

[10:07] and he loved it

[10:08] and it was a great costume.

[10:09] I feel like that's

[10:10] the funniest thing,

[10:11] to be something

[10:12] for Halloween

[10:13] that nobody expects

[10:14] you to be.

[10:15] Yeah,

Dan McCoy

[10:15] the fun of it

[10:17] is you're a shower

[10:18] where a shower

[10:18] is not normally.

[10:20] Yeah.

[10:20] It's not,

[10:20] you know.

[10:21] It's a disruption.

[10:22] Oh.

[10:22] Yeah.

[10:22] Oh,

[10:23] I understand.

Elliott Kalan

[10:24] Well,

[10:25] we certainly have

[10:26] a disagreement

[10:26] opinion here,

[10:27] but how would you make

[10:28] this movie

[10:28] into a Halloween

[10:29] horror movie?

[10:29] How would you get

[10:30] Mike Myers

[10:31] into this movie?

[10:31] I feel like the answer

Dan McCoy

[10:32] to all of these,

[10:33] Elliot,

[10:34] is to add Mike Myers

[10:35] to them.

Elliott Kalan

[10:36] Yeah,

[10:37] but then what happened?

[10:37] And just let him do his thing.

[10:39] But how do we have,

[10:40] do we,

[10:40] so to Michael Myers,

[10:42] like,

[10:42] does he go after

[10:43] the Cobra Kai guys first

[10:44] and they try to fight him

[10:45] and they're defeated

[10:45] and then at the end,

[10:46] Dan has to defeat him?

Hallie Haglund

[10:47] He steps out of the shower

[10:48] in a towel.

Elliott Kalan

[10:50] Yeah.

[10:50] Oh,

[10:50] Michael Myers did?

[10:51] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[10:51] Or how about Michael Myers

[10:54] is,

[10:54] you know,

[10:55] he's been,

[10:57] I guess he doesn't really die

[10:58] the way that Jason does

[10:59] and get resurrected.

[11:00] But I was like,

[11:02] maybe Cobra Kai,

[11:02] like,

[11:03] summons Michael Myers

[11:04] somehow to try

[11:04] and take Daniel down,

[11:05] not realizing that

[11:06] Michael Myers

[11:07] is not discerning

[11:08] in who he's going to stalk.

[11:09] Okay,

Elliott Kalan

[11:09] could be.

[11:10] It's more of like

[11:10] a pumpkin head type situation.

Dan McCoy

[11:12] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[11:13] Or like,

[11:14] yeah,

[11:14] I mean,

[11:15] of course,

[11:15] Michael Myers would show up

[11:16] and then the Cobra Kai guys

[11:18] are trying to defeat him

[11:19] using their karate.

[11:20] Doesn't work.

[11:21] You can't sweep his leg.

[11:22] Can't.

[11:22] But then Daniel is able

[11:24] to defeat him

[11:24] because he is

[11:25] a more soulful fighter.

Elliott Kalan

[11:28] And Mr. Miyagi,

[11:29] is he aware of Michael Myers?

[11:30] Like,

[11:30] oh no,

[11:31] I've got,

[11:31] I've got this,

[11:32] I have to teach you

[11:32] the ways of stopping this guy

[11:34] or is that a,

[11:35] Yeah,

[11:35] yeah,

Stuart Wellington

[11:35] he learned about him

[11:36] back in whatever war

[11:38] he was involved in.

Hallie Haglund

[11:39] And then Michael Myers

[11:40] is walking by

[11:41] and he catches him

[11:42] with chopsticks.

Elliott Kalan

[11:43] Oh,

[11:43] yeah,

[11:44] he does.

[11:44] Yeah.

[11:45] There you go.

[11:46] We figured that one out.

[11:47] All right,

[11:47] well,

[11:47] let's move on

[11:47] to the next Halloween movie.

[11:49] That's right.

[11:49] It is

[11:50] To Kill a Mockingbird

[11:52] from 1963.

[11:54] Hallie,

[11:54] can you describe

[11:55] the spooktacular costume

[11:56] that Scout is wearing

[11:57] in this scene?

Hallie Haglund

[11:59] Scout is wearing

[12:00] something that looks

[12:02] kind of like

[12:03] a bowling pin

[12:04] without the

[12:05] very top knob of it,

[12:07] except it's,

[12:08] I mean,

[12:09] it's gray

[12:10] because this is

[12:10] a black and white photo.

[12:11] but I'm assuming

[12:13] it's brown

[12:15] in,

[12:15] you know,

[12:16] Technicolor

[12:17] and it's labeled

[12:19] Ham.

Elliott Kalan

[12:21] Yeah.

[12:21] Yep.

[12:22] And there's like

[12:22] a little slot

[12:23] for her to look at.

[12:23] Oh,

[12:23] yeah,

[12:23] there's a little eye slot.

[12:25] Yeah,

[12:25] so this is her ham costume

[12:26] from the Halloween pageant

[12:27] in To Kill a Mockingbird.

[12:29] My favorite thing

[12:29] about this costume

[12:30] is that it's straight

[12:31] from the book

[12:32] and in the book

[12:33] there's something

[12:34] very funny

[12:34] about her having

[12:35] dressed as a ham

[12:35] and in the movie

[12:36] they just go with it.

[12:37] They don't try

[12:37] to make it cool.

[12:38] They just give her

[12:39] this big clumsy ham costume.

[12:41] So,

[12:41] thank you for the description.

[12:42] Hallie,

[12:43] how do you rate

[12:43] this costume?

Hallie Haglund

[12:44] I mean,

[12:44] it's adorable

[12:45] and it's so funny

[12:47] that it's labeled ham

[12:49] because you wouldn't

[12:49] know what the fuck it is.

[12:52] So,

[12:52] you know,

[12:53] it's so endearing.

[12:55] I give it a,

[12:56] I give it a seven.

Stuart Wellington

[12:58] Okay,

[12:59] Dan Stewart,

[12:59] how do you feel?

[13:00] Do you agree?

[13:01] I'm going to say

[13:01] this doesn't look

[13:02] anything like a ham.

[13:03] I'm giving it a two.

[13:04] Wow.

[13:05] Wow.

[13:05] I'm going to hear,

[13:07] I'm going way

[13:08] I can hear Scouts tears.

[13:09] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[13:10] I'm going way far

[13:11] in the other direction.

[13:12] I'm going to give it a ten.

Elliott Kalan

[13:14] Okay.

[13:14] Oh,

[13:15] I was like,

[13:16] Hallie and Stewart

[13:17] were on opposite ends

[13:18] of the scale.

[13:18] Are you going down

[13:19] the Z axis this time,

[13:20] Dan,

[13:20] to the third dimension?

[13:22] No,

Dan McCoy

[13:22] I love this.

[13:23] I love this costume.

[13:24] I disagree that it doesn't

[13:25] look like a ham.

[13:26] Like,

[13:26] it looks like,

[13:27] you know,

[13:27] like one of those big,

[13:28] those big hams,

[13:29] like the full ham

[13:30] that you would get.

[13:31] Like,

[13:32] it doesn't look like

[13:32] a John ham.

[13:33] Yeah,

[13:33] like a full John ham.

[13:34] It looks like John ham.

[13:35] Yeah,

[13:36] as Fletch.

[13:36] Yeah.

[13:37] But I like this,

[13:38] you know,

[13:38] it's like this old fashioned,

[13:39] like,

[13:39] I guess,

[13:40] paper mache costume

[13:41] of a ham

[13:42] that also is labeled

[13:44] ham on it.

[13:45] What could be better

[13:46] than that?

Elliott Kalan

[13:48] All right.

[13:49] I love this costume.

[13:50] I think it's great.

[13:51] It is not the best costume,

[13:52] though,

[13:52] for when you're being chased

[13:53] by Michael Myers.

[13:54] So,

[13:55] how do we,

[13:55] how to kill a mockingbird,

[13:56] how do we make this title

[13:57] literal

[13:58] and insert Michael Myers

[14:00] and the Halloween franchise

[14:02] And now this is,

[14:03] do we set it?

[14:03] It's set in the past.

[14:04] Is this a,

[14:05] is this,

[14:06] did Michael Myers fall

[14:06] through a time warp?

[14:07] Is this some sort of a prequel?

[14:09] Or is this Michael Myers' grandfather?

[14:11] How do we,

[14:11] how do we deal with that?

Hallie Haglund

[14:13] Michael Myers is on trial

[14:15] for raping a white woman.

[14:17] Oh,

[14:18] okay.

[14:18] Well,

[14:18] that is engaging

Elliott Kalan

[14:19] with the plot

[14:20] of To Kill a Mockingbird.

[14:21] I think,

[14:21] I think it's not,

[14:23] not the best way

[14:24] for us to do it,

[14:25] but it really upends

[14:27] the,

[14:27] the novel

[14:28] and the movie's

[14:29] plea for tolerance

[14:30] if the,

[14:30] if the accused,

[14:32] the falsely accused party

[14:33] is a slasher killer.

[14:35] Hey,

Hallie Haglund

[14:35] he's a slasher killer.

[14:36] He's not a rapist.

Elliott Kalan

[14:38] Good point.

[14:39] Yeah,

[14:39] it's gotta be

[14:40] for the right crime.

[14:40] I see what you're saying.

Stuart Wellington

[14:42] Yeah,

[14:43] Michael Myers Sr.

[14:44] Sr.

[14:44] maybe is the one

[14:46] perpetrating these crimes.

Elliott Kalan

[14:48] Yeah,

[14:48] yeah.

[14:48] It's,

[14:49] it's because the,

[14:49] the tainted bloodline

[14:50] of Michael Myers.

[14:51] And I was thinking

[14:51] you end up with a

[14:52] Boo Radley Michael Myers fight

[14:54] because Boo Radley

[14:54] is kind of like a good guy

[14:55] Michael Myers.

[14:56] Yeah.

[14:57] Yeah.

[14:58] And he takes his soap doll

[15:00] and,

[15:01] and his name says,

[15:02] has Boo in it,

[15:03] which sounds scary.

[15:04] Yeah,

[15:04] it's automatically scary.

[15:05] Yeah,

[15:05] and then maybe it turns out

[15:06] that Boo Radley is a ghost.

[15:07] I don't know.

[15:08] I'm just throwing ideas out here.

[15:09] Let's move on to the next movie.

[15:10] So,

[15:10] there's another

[15:11] spooktacular Halloween classic

[15:13] that's about children

[15:15] doing things they shouldn't

[15:17] on Halloween,

[15:18] perhaps playing with things

[15:19] they shouldn't

[15:19] and that's

[15:20] Meet Me in St. Louis

[15:21] from 1944.

[15:23] Classic movie musical,

[15:24] one of the greatest of all

[15:25] original two film musicals.

[15:28] And in the Halloween scene of this,

[15:29] for people who haven't seen it,

[15:31] Margaret O'Brien

[15:32] and one of the other sisters,

[15:33] I forget,

[15:33] they're little kids.

[15:34] They dress up in costumes

[15:35] from the era

[15:36] when Halloween costumes

[15:37] weren't specific things

[15:38] so much as just putting on

[15:39] whatever.

[15:41] And they prank

[15:44] the one neighbor in the town

[15:46] that's coded as an immigrant

[15:47] or perhaps non-Christian

[15:48] and then they gleefully

[15:50] have a bonfire

[15:51] and then throw a mannequin

[15:53] in front of a trolley

[15:53] and they get in trouble for it

[15:54] but they're just so gleeful.

[15:56] Even while Margaret O'Brien

[15:57] is being spanked for that.

[15:58] She has this smile on her face

[15:59] because she's so happy

[15:59] that she threw a mannequin

[16:01] in front of a trolley

[16:01] and made everyone scared.

[16:03] So,

[16:03] guys,

[16:04] first,

[16:04] Stuart,

[16:05] can you describe these costumes

[16:06] that these girls are wearing?

Stuart Wellington

[16:08] Yeah,

[16:08] they look like a couple

[16:09] ragamuffins

[16:10] wearing oversized coats

[16:12] and hats

[16:12] and scarves

[16:13] and sweatshirts

[16:14] and they have

[16:15] like soot or something

[16:17] smeared on their faces

[16:18] as well as

[16:19] one young lady

[16:21] is holding

[16:22] a skeleton mask

[16:23] and the other

[16:25] child

[16:26] has a large nose,

[16:28] maybe a fake nose

[16:29] and a pair of glasses.

[16:30] It is a fake nose.

Elliott Kalan

[16:31] Yeah.

[16:31] And a kind of a bowler hat.

Stuart Wellington

[16:32] Yeah.

[16:33] Like,

Dan McCoy

[16:34] yeah,

[16:34] I'd say the shorter...

[16:35] The other one's wearing

Hallie Haglund

[16:36] like a blossom hat.

Elliott Kalan

[16:38] Yeah,

[16:38] that's true.

[16:39] It's like a pirate hat

[16:40] with two big flowers on it.

[16:41] It does look like a blossom hat.

[16:42] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[16:43] Yeah,

[16:43] the shorter girl looks

[16:44] sort of like a hobo

[16:45] with a Orson Welles nose

[16:48] added to the mix

[16:49] and then,

[16:50] yeah,

[16:50] and then we do have

[16:51] this mask

[16:52] that looks like

[16:53] kind of like

[16:53] a Tim Burton

[16:54] stop motion

[16:55] project figure.

Hallie Haglund

[16:58] Is that supposed

[16:59] to be a skeleton mask

[17:00] or a gorilla mask?

Dan McCoy

[17:02] Maybe it's a gorilla skeleton.

[17:02] I don't know the question.

Elliott Kalan

[17:04] Yeah.

[17:05] So,

[17:05] guys,

[17:05] what are your grades

[17:07] for these costumes?

[17:08] Dan,

[17:08] I'm going to start

[17:08] with you again.

Dan McCoy

[17:10] I mean,

[17:11] I really like that mask.

[17:12] I think that mask

[17:13] is super cool.

[17:14] The rest of it

[17:15] is just kind of

[17:16] a mishmash,

[17:17] so I'm going to go

[17:18] with a three.

Stuart Wellington

[17:20] Yeah,

[17:20] I mean,

[17:20] I don't want to

[17:21] knock them points

[17:23] just for maybe

[17:24] not having

[17:25] the resources

[17:27] to get some

[17:28] really nice costumes.

[17:29] Yeah,

Stuart Wellington

[17:29] or the know-how.

Elliott Kalan

[17:29] This is pre-even

[17:31] bad ham costume

[17:32] technology.

[17:33] This is,

[17:34] it made in the 40s

[17:35] and set

[17:35] at the turn of the century,

[17:36] so they really

[17:37] didn't have the kind

[17:38] of costume

[17:38] know-how

[17:39] that we have now.

Stuart Wellington

[17:40] There's just not

[17:41] enough of a

[17:42] singular vision

[17:43] here presented,

[17:44] so I will also

[17:45] say a two.

[17:47] Okay.

Hallie Haglund

[17:48] I think that

[17:49] this smaller one

[17:51] is being handicapped

[17:52] by being grouped

[17:53] in with the bigger one

[17:54] because I think

[17:55] that the smaller ones

[17:56] costume is better,

[17:58] who's wearing

[17:59] the bowler hat

[17:59] and actually looks

[18:00] like a hobo.

[18:01] So,

[18:02] I feel like that

[18:03] could be Wallace Shawn

[18:04] and I wouldn't

[18:05] be surprised.

[18:07] I think that

[18:08] I would give her

[18:09] a six

[18:10] and the other girl

[18:11] two.

Elliott Kalan

[18:12] Oh,

[18:12] wow.

[18:12] Okay,

[18:13] and so,

[18:13] now is the question,

[18:14] have any of you

[18:15] seen Meet Me in St. Louis?

[18:16] Are you familiar

[18:16] with this movie at all?

Dan McCoy

[18:18] No.

[18:18] I've seen

[18:19] clips from it,

[18:21] but I have not

[18:21] seen the full movie.

Elliott Kalan

[18:22] You are missing out.

[18:23] It's a beautiful movie.

[18:24] It's really fun.

[18:24] It's really wonderful.

[18:25] So,

[18:26] then I guess

[18:26] it's going to be hard

[18:27] for you to tell me

[18:27] how to insert

[18:28] Michael Myers into this,

[18:29] but just,

[18:29] so it's the story,

[18:30] it's set in 1904.

Dan McCoy

[18:31] wins a free ticket

[18:34] to St. Louis.

[18:35] Love it.

[18:36] Okay,

[18:36] here we go again.

Elliott Kalan

[18:37] So,

[18:38] it's all about,

[18:38] there's getting ready

[18:39] for the St. Louis Fair

[18:40] that they're going to go to,

[18:41] the St. Louis,

[18:41] you know,

[18:42] World's Fair or whatever.

[18:43] So,

[18:43] you think Michael Myers

[18:44] ends up there

[18:44] and the big thing is,

[18:46] the big thing is,

[18:47] wait,

[18:47] it's a World's Fair?

[18:48] Something like that,

[18:49] yeah.

[18:49] So,

Stuart Wellington

[18:50] Michael Myers builds

[18:51] a murder house.

Dan McCoy

[18:52] Okay.

[18:52] And he tricks people

[18:54] who come to the World's Fair

[18:55] and he kills them.

[18:56] Not usually known

[18:57] for his architecture skills,

[18:59] but that's an interesting

[19:00] wrinkle to the thing.

[19:01] It is an interesting,

Elliott Kalan

[19:02] and the big thing

[19:03] at the World's Fair

[19:03] in this one is electric lights.

[19:05] So,

[19:05] maybe the lights all go out

[19:06] at some point.

[19:07] You know,

[19:07] Michael Myers realized

[19:08] how to turn off

[19:09] the electricity.

[19:10] But anyway,

[19:11] I would recommend it.

[19:12] Of all the movies

[19:13] on this list

[19:13] that we've been talking

[19:13] about today,

[19:14] I think it's probably

[19:15] my favorite.

[19:16] So,

[19:17] it's not just,

[19:17] a lot of people

[19:18] know this movie

[19:18] for the song

[19:19] Have Yourself

[19:20] a Merry Little Christmas.

[19:20] Yes.

[19:21] And they say,

[19:21] oh,

[19:21] that's a Christmas movie.

[19:22] It's a Halloween movie,

[19:23] everybody.

[19:24] A lot of the movie

[19:24] takes place at Halloween.

[19:26] Fight me about it.

[19:27] I don't care.

[19:28] Meet me in St. Louis.

[19:28] Anyway.

[19:30] Cash me in St. Louis.

[19:32] Yes.

[19:33] But,

[19:34] you know,

[19:34] I know you guys are thinking

[19:35] there's a classic Halloween movie

[19:37] with a classic costume

[19:38] that we have not gotten to yet.

[19:39] Don't worry.

[19:40] We're just about to.

[19:41] I wouldn't put it off for long.

[19:42] So,

[19:43] here it is.

[19:44] Juror number two.

[19:45] From last year.

[19:46] Right.

[19:46] This is juror number two

[19:47] directed by Clint Eastwood.

[19:48] And,

[19:48] there's one scene

[19:49] that's set at Halloween

[19:50] where our main character

[19:51] and his wife

[19:52] are dressed as

[19:53] the American Gothic couple

[19:55] from Grant Wood's

[19:56] classic painting,

[19:57] American Gothic.

[19:58] Although,

Dan McCoy

[19:58] that's supposed to be

[20:00] a father-daughter

[20:01] I learned recently,

[20:02] not a couple.

[20:03] Well,

[20:04] Dan,

Elliott Kalan

[20:05] I can't tell,

[20:06] all I can say is

[20:07] I'm not going to dig into that.

Dan McCoy

[20:08] I'm just dropping some art trivia.

[20:10] That's all.

Elliott Kalan

[20:12] Well,

[20:13] take it up with Grant Wood

[20:14] and take it up with Clint Eastwood.

[20:15] Hey,

[20:16] wait a minute.

[20:16] Grant Wood?

[20:17] Clint Eastwood?

[20:19] Oh.

[20:20] Same guy?

Dan McCoy

[20:22] You blew this whole thing

[20:23] wide open.

Elliott Kalan

[20:24] So,

[20:24] what do you think

[20:24] about this costume?

[20:25] Let's talk about it.

[20:26] Dan,

[20:27] why don't you describe

[20:27] this costume

[20:28] for anyone who hasn't seen

[20:29] American Gothic?

Dan McCoy

[20:30] Yeah,

[20:30] I mean,

[20:31] it's a little obscured

[20:32] by trick-or-treaters

[20:34] in the forefront

[20:35] of the frame,

[20:35] but it's,

[20:36] you know,

[20:36] it's a couple

[20:36] from American Gothic.

[20:37] If you've seen

[20:38] American Gothic,

[20:38] there's a woman

[20:39] with like sort of a,

[20:41] what I kind of think of

[20:42] as like a Puritan collar,

[20:44] black dress,

[20:47] and she's got her hair

[20:49] parted down the middle,

[20:50] slicked down.

[20:51] We've got Nicholas Holt

[20:52] over here

[20:53] as the man in the pair.

[20:55] He's got a pretty

[20:57] lousy bald cap on,

[20:59] and he has a pitchfork

[21:03] that looks like it's got

[21:04] like spider webs on it

[21:06] or something.

[21:07] I don't know

[21:07] what's going on there.

Elliott Kalan

[21:08] I think he tried

[21:08] to Halloween up

[21:09] the idea of American Gothic,

[21:10] and also he,

[21:11] I think it's hard

[21:11] to see in this image,

[21:12] but I think he also

[21:13] is wearing,

[21:13] he's wearing overalls,

[21:14] I think he also has

[21:14] like a fake belly

[21:15] or something like that.

[21:17] But yeah,

[21:17] so how would you guys

[21:19] rate this costume?

[21:20] And you can rate it

[21:21] on scariness,

[21:22] or you can rate it

[21:23] on authenticity

[21:23] to the original painting.

Dan McCoy

[21:25] I think this isn't

[21:28] very good.

[21:29] I think that,

[21:29] you know.

[21:30] Wow, harsh.

[21:32] It's just like,

[21:33] it's not a super

[21:35] well done representation

[21:36] of the painting,

[21:38] and I guess that's all

[21:41] I'm ranking it on,

[21:42] and so I'm going

[21:43] to give it a two.

Elliott Kalan

[21:44] Wow, okay.

[21:45] Still gets a two though.

Stuart Wellington

[21:46] I'm going to give it

[21:47] a four,

[21:48] because I think

[21:48] this is a really

[21:49] good representation

[21:50] of a couple's costume

[21:52] made by people

[21:53] who have a little

[21:54] bit of enthusiasm

[21:56] about it,

[21:56] but they don't go

[21:57] all the way

[21:58] to really do

[21:59] a very good job.

[22:00] So I think

[22:01] it's a very

[22:01] believable

[22:02] couple's costume.

Elliott Kalan

[22:04] Realistic.

[22:04] And also,

[22:05] Nicholas,

[22:05] all to this point,

[22:05] he is still grappling

[22:06] with the fact

[22:07] that he is on the jury

[22:08] for a trial

[22:09] for someone

[22:10] who is accused

[22:11] of a crime

[22:12] he seems to have committed.

[22:13] And so,

[22:14] I don't think

[22:14] he has a lot

[22:14] of emotional energy

[22:15] for a more

[22:16] in-depth,

[22:17] you know,

[22:18] complicated costume

[22:19] than this one right now.

[22:20] Hallie,

[22:20] what do you think?

Hallie Haglund

[22:21] Well,

[22:21] maybe then I'll say

[22:22] this is sort of

[22:24] a meet me

[22:24] in St. Louis situation.

[22:26] I think the woman's costume

[22:27] is way better than his

[22:28] because clearly

[22:29] it's the bald cap

[22:30] that's ruining his.

[22:32] He should have

Stuart Wellington

[22:32] shaved his head.

Elliott Kalan

[22:33] It's hard not to notice

[22:35] there's a very bad bald cap.

Stuart Wellington

[22:36] With a bald head.

[22:37] We've seen him recently

[22:38] with a bald head.

[22:39] It's true.

Elliott Kalan

[22:39] Yeah,

[22:39] he looks good

[22:40] with a bald head,

[22:41] face all painted,

[22:42] silver teeth.

[22:43] You know,

[22:43] he could shave his head,

[22:45] but you're right.

[22:46] I think the bald cap

[22:47] really is the real weakness

[22:48] of this costume.

[22:49] Yeah,

Hallie Haglund

[22:50] so I'll give her a five

[22:52] and him a one.

Elliott Kalan

[22:54] Wow.

[22:55] Someone's finally broken

[22:55] the two barrier.

[22:57] Amazing.

[22:58] Sorry,

[22:58] juror number two.

[22:59] I mean,

[23:00] again,

[23:00] getting a low score

[23:01] in the costume contest.

[23:02] Juror number one.

[23:04] Yeah.

[23:05] I thought you were going to say

[23:05] this juror number two's

[23:06] costume is number two.

[23:10] So,

[23:10] how would you bring

[23:12] if you guys have seen it.

[23:13] It's a taut,

[23:15] almost Paul Schrader-esque

[23:17] examination of guilt

[23:19] and the need for repentance

[23:21] and what happens

[23:22] when you don't repent.

Dan McCoy

[23:24] I feel like...

[23:25] is also one of the jurors.

[23:27] I think you're giving this movie

[23:29] way too much credit,

[23:30] but also,

[23:31] I would say,

[23:32] what if Michael Myers

[23:33] is on trial

[23:34] for the killing?

[23:35] Because,

[23:36] why wouldn't you suspect

[23:38] and this guy

[23:39] sort of like

[23:40] feels a little less guilty

[23:41] because he's like,

[23:42] well,

[23:43] if Michael Myers

[23:44] goes to jail

[23:45] instead of me,

[23:45] that's probably

[23:45] all for the best.

Stuart Wellington

[23:47] Yeah,

[23:47] yeah,

[23:48] he's like,

[23:48] maybe he might not

[23:49] have committed

[23:50] the crime I committed,

[23:51] but you know what?

[23:52] We gotta take this guy

[23:53] down somehow.

Elliott Kalan

[23:54] The world is better off

[23:55] with him behind bars.

[23:55] It's a real Al Capone

[23:56] tax evasion thing

[23:57] where it's like,

[23:58] maybe this isn't the crime

[23:59] you thought you'd get him for,

[24:00] but it's something.

[24:01] I like the idea

[24:02] of him being on the jury too,

[24:03] so maybe it's a little bit of both.

[24:04] Maybe Michael Myers

[24:05] is like a secret

[24:06] of my success type situation

[24:07] where he's pretending

[24:08] to be more than one person

[24:09] on trial and on the jury.

Stuart Wellington

[24:12] Yeah,

[24:12] yeah,

Stuart Wellington

[24:12] a real the clumps.

Elliott Kalan

[24:16] It is a real the clumps.

[24:18] Put that quote

[24:19] on the juror number two box.

[24:20] Stuart Williams says

[24:21] a real the clumps.

[24:22] We've got one more movie

[24:23] before we're gonna go to a break.

[24:25] So guys,

[24:26] there's another movie

[24:27] that no joke this time

[24:30] is a real great

[24:31] kind of like Halloween scene movie

[24:33] and I'm sure you've all seen it

[24:34] and of course that is

[24:35] E.T. from 1982.

[24:37] So many Halloween costumes.

[24:39] So much stuff.

[24:40] Similarly,

[24:41] kind of the,

[24:42] this is pre

[24:43] when kids were expected

[24:44] to go out

[24:45] and buy really good costumes.

[24:47] This is when kids

[24:47] are still throwing

[24:48] their own costumes together.

[24:49] So why don't we each,

[24:50] why don't each of you

[24:51] take a turn

[24:52] describing one of these costumes

[24:53] that we're seeing on screen.

[24:54] Hallie,

[24:55] you wanna go first?

[24:55] Pick whichever one you like.

Hallie Haglund

[24:57] E.T. is dressed

[24:58] like a,

[24:58] like a lady.

[25:00] Maybe like a grandma.

[25:02] It's sort of a grandma vibe.

[25:04] Also wearing a,

[25:05] would you say

[25:05] that's a bowler hat?

[25:07] Mm-hmm.

[25:07] Yeah.

[25:08] With a flower

[25:08] and a blonde,

[25:11] luxurious wig,

[25:13] a string of pearls,

[25:15] a shawl

[25:16] and a,

[25:17] sort of like a,

[25:18] a,

[25:19] a floral gown.

[25:22] Yeah.

[25:22] Looks kind of like

[25:22] a nightgown a little bit.

Elliott Kalan

[25:24] Mm-hmm.

[25:24] There's some,

[25:25] there's elements of it

[25:25] that are kind of like,

[25:26] if he's,

[25:27] he couldn't decide

[25:27] whether he's gonna go

[25:28] as Carol Kane

[25:29] or Stevie Nicks

[25:30] for Halloween.

[25:31] Mm-hmm.

[25:31] So they both kind of

[25:32] ended up in the same costume.

[25:34] Never mind.

Stuart Wellington

[25:36] Yeah.

[25:36] E.T. drag icon.

[25:38] Mm-hmm.

[25:39] Did you hear what I said?

[25:40] No, I didn't.

Hallie Haglund

[25:41] Oh.

[25:41] He looks like our friend Delaney.

Elliott Kalan

[25:43] You know what?

[25:44] I could see,

[25:44] yeah,

[25:45] you know what?

[25:46] I could see this

[25:47] as a Delaney costume.

[25:48] Yeah.

[25:48] Yeah,

[25:49] this is a person we know.

[25:50] So,

Elliott Kalan

[25:50] so if Delaney's listening,

[25:52] which she's not,

[25:53] uh,

[25:53] great E.T. costume every day.

[25:56] So,

[25:58] Stuart,

[25:58] why don't you take a costume?

[25:59] Which one do you want to take?

Stuart Wellington

[26:01] Uh,

[26:02] well,

[26:02] we got a little kid

[26:05] dressed up like a hobo

[26:06] with a bowler hat

[26:07] and a knife sticking in his head.

[26:09] Got a five o'clock shadow.

[26:11] Uh,

[26:11] is this a reference to something

[26:12] I'm not understanding?

Elliott Kalan

[26:13] I don't think so.

[26:14] I think some of these costumes

[26:15] are supposed to be like,

[26:16] again,

[26:16] you're throwing stuff together.

[26:17] Later on in this movie,

[26:18] I should have put these ones up too,

[26:20] that you see people just walking by

[26:21] and one of them is like a dog

[26:22] who's also a sailor.

[26:23] Like,

[26:23] they're just throwing,

[26:24] throwing things together,

[26:26] you know?

[26:26] Uh,

[26:27] and Dan,

[26:27] why don't you describe,

[26:28] uh,

[26:29] why don't you describe Elliot's mom's costume?

Dan McCoy

[26:31] Yeah,

[26:31] so we got Dee Wallace

[26:32] being what she is,

[26:34] which is a sexy mom.

[26:35] She's got like,

[26:36] uh,

[26:37] a cheetah print cat suit on.

[26:39] She has a,

[26:40] uh,

[26:41] you know,

[26:41] like,

[26:42] kind of a Lone Ranger style mask.

[26:44] Her hair is up

[26:45] sort of in two,

[26:48] like,

[26:48] two parts.

[26:49] Like,

[26:49] there's like scrunchies or something.

[26:52] Like,

[26:52] yeah,

[26:52] like,

[26:52] almost like ears.

[26:53] It looks like she's got,

[26:54] uh,

[26:55] like a magic wand,

[26:56] like a fairy godmother magic wand.

[26:58] She does.

[26:58] It doesn't really go with the rest of the thing,

[27:00] but as we're saying,

[27:01] these are thrown together costumes.

[27:04] Uh,

[27:05] yeah,

[27:05] no,

[27:05] it's a good look.

Elliott Kalan

[27:06] And I'll describe Elliot.

[27:07] He's wearing a hooded sweatshirt

[27:09] and he's just painted his face

[27:10] like he's a zombie.

[27:11] It's kind of green

[27:11] with kind of like black circles

[27:12] around his eyes.

[27:13] But again.

[27:14] I was like,

Hallie Haglund

[27:14] is he supposed to be E.T.?

[27:15] I couldn't figure that out.

Elliott Kalan

[27:17] That would be very funny

[27:17] if he was like,

[27:18] I'll go as E.T.

[27:19] So when people are chasing E.T.,

[27:20] they'll get me.

[27:21] Yeah,

[27:21] and you go as me.

[27:23] And E.T. will go as this old lady.

[27:26] E.T. will go as Delaney.

[27:28] Yeah,

[27:28] so how do you guys,

[27:29] how do you guys rate these costumes?

[27:30] And you can rate them as a group

[27:31] if you want,

[27:32] just to save some time,

[27:33] or you can write them individually

[27:33] if you want.

Dan McCoy

[27:35] I mean,

[27:35] E.T. is clearly a 10.

[27:36] This is a great look

[27:37] for 10s across the board.

[27:39] It's fantastic,

[27:39] yeah.

[27:40] And like,

[27:41] you know,

[27:41] Dee Wallace,

[27:42] I think,

[27:42] is a 7

[27:43] just because I think she's cute.

[27:45] And the hobo kid,

[27:47] maybe a 5.

[27:48] And Elliot is like a 1.

Stuart Wellington

[27:50] No,

[27:51] I'll give Elliot more than that.

[27:52] There's something about

[27:52] a classic zombie face.

Hallie Haglund

[27:54] I love Elliot.

[27:55] He looks so cute.

[27:56] Not you.

Elliott Kalan

[27:57] No,

[27:58] I look hideous,

[27:58] but he looks very cute.

[27:59] But I think what,

[28:00] for his older brother,

[28:01] what does it for me

[28:02] is that he was like,

[28:03] I'll be a hobo

[28:04] with a knife through his head.

[28:05] And I feel like that takes it

[28:06] to a new conceptual level

[28:07] that he is a murdered hobo

Dan McCoy

[28:09] rather than just a hobo.

[28:10] You start putting a story together

[28:12] like,

[28:12] what happened to this gentleman?

[28:14] Exactly.

Hallie Haglund

[28:14] I feel like this is what

[28:15] every kid does

[28:17] is like for Halloween.

[28:18] They're like,

[28:19] I'll be a nurse,

[28:20] but a zombie nurse

[28:22] or like a stabbed nurse.

[28:24] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[28:25] I think,

[28:26] what I like about this movie

[28:27] is that these kids

[28:28] obviously did their own costumes.

[28:30] Yeah.

[28:30] And I think it's,

[28:31] is it Gertie who dresses up?

[28:32] E.T. in this way

[28:33] as,

[28:34] as it's like,

[28:35] she did a great job

[28:36] if it was her doing that.

[28:37] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[28:37] And then they,

Dan McCoy

[28:37] they're like,

[28:38] no,

[28:39] we can't do that.

[28:40] And they put a,

[28:40] just put a sheet over E.T.

[28:42] Yeah.

[28:42] And that I don't like as much.

[28:43] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[28:44] Although to be fair,

[28:45] if you,

[28:45] it's,

[28:46] but the idea is that

[28:47] E.T. is,

[28:48] is supposed to be Gertie

[28:49] and he does not look like

[28:50] little Drew Barrymore

[28:51] in this costume at all.

[28:52] Like to put the sheet over him

[28:53] is the better move

[28:54] for the story.

[28:55] What,

[28:56] the thing about also

[28:57] D. Wells' costume

[28:57] is within the context of the movie,

[28:59] she's not trick-or-treating.

[29:00] She's not going to a party.

[29:02] She's just at her house

[29:03] handing out candy.

[29:04] And so it's really a lot to go,

[29:06] it's a lot,

[29:06] it's a big costume to put on

[29:07] just for that.

[29:08] So I got to give her credit for that.

[29:09] So I'm going to give

[29:10] all of them 10 out of 10.

[29:12] Wow.

[29:13] You know,

[29:13] also,

[29:14] but then the question

[29:15] before we go to a break

[29:15] and don't worry,

[29:17] there's fewer movies

[29:17] on the other side of the break

[29:18] than there were on the front one.

[29:19] Before we go to a break,

[29:20] how do we make this

[29:21] a Michael Myers Halloween movie?

[29:23] You've got a telekinetic alien

[29:24] in here.

[29:25] You know,

[29:25] how does that play into it?

Dan McCoy

[29:27] Yeah,

[29:28] I feel like this has to be like,

[29:29] you know.

Stuart Wellington

[29:30] But it is set in the suburbs.

[29:31] That's his natural

[29:32] hunting ground.

[29:32] It's true.

[29:33] That is true.

Dan McCoy

[29:34] But this has to be like

[29:34] more of like a.

Stuart Wellington

[29:35] The suburbs of Southern California too.

[29:36] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[29:37] A versus scenario,

[29:38] you know,

[29:39] a Freddy versus Jason.

[29:41] Yeah, yeah.

[29:42] A Cowboys.

[29:42] versus aliens.

[29:44] Yeah.

[29:44] Michael Myers versus E.T.

[29:46] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[29:47] No matter who wins,

[29:47] we lose.

[29:48] Yeah, exactly.

[29:49] Yeah.

[29:49] Tell me about it.

[29:50] So what happens

[29:50] with Michael Myers versus E.T.?

[29:52] Play out the scenario a little bit.

[29:53] Hallie?

Hallie Haglund

[29:54] Well,

[29:54] I had a different idea.

[29:56] Okay,

Elliott Kalan

[29:56] let's hear that one now.

[29:57] Okay, go on.

[29:57] Classic yes ending.

Hallie Haglund

[29:58] What if this is,

[30:00] what if this is

[30:03] Michael Myers'

[30:04] redemption story

[30:05] and he comes in

[30:07] and kills

[30:08] all of the doctors

[30:09] and scientists

[30:10] who are holding

[30:12] E.T.

[30:13] and Elliot captive?

[30:14] Oh, wow.

Dan McCoy

[30:14] Yeah, they can't stop his ass.

[30:15] They had their fucking gun

[30:16] swapped out for walkie-talkies.

[30:18] Even Michael Myers

[30:19] can't resist the charms

[30:20] of E.T.,

[30:21] the lovable alien.

Elliott Kalan

[30:22] To be honest,

[30:23] I would love to see

[30:24] that movie

[30:25] where an alien comes down,

[30:27] the scientists take him

[30:28] and the kids are like,

[30:29] no, no,

[30:29] let him go.

[30:30] And then,

[30:31] unbeknownst to them,

[30:32] a slasher is on the prowl

[30:33] and he really complicates

[30:35] their alien kidnapping thing.

[30:37] What a fun,

[30:38] it reminds me of a writer

[30:40] that some of us worked with,

[30:41] Mr. Rich Blomquist.

[30:42] He said once about

[30:43] reading a screenwriting book

[30:44] where the screenwriter said,

[30:45] you have to have

[30:46] one unbelievable thing

[30:47] in your movie.

[30:47] You can have a vampire

[30:48] or you can have an alien,

[30:50] but you can't have

[30:50] an alien land on Earth

[30:51] and then a vampire bites him.

[30:52] And he was,

[30:53] and Rich was like,

[30:53] that sounds like a great movie.

[30:55] Yeah.

[30:55] Why wouldn't you do that?

[30:56] I want to see that movie.

[30:58] So I think,

[30:59] so Michael Myers,

[31:00] so they're there.

Stuart Wellington

[31:00] Yeah, like make a predator movie

[31:01] where the predator lands

[31:02] in fucking Transylvania

[31:03] and has to fight Dracula.

[31:04] That rocks.

Elliott Kalan

[31:05] Wonderful.

[31:06] I would love that.

[31:06] That'd be so great.

[31:08] AVP,

[31:08] alien, vampire, predator.

[31:10] Yeah, let's do it, everybody.

[31:11] Come on, Hollywood.

[31:12] Hollywood, it's the end of the world.

[31:13] Let's just do it.

[31:14] Let's throw these concepts together.

[31:15] Come on.

[31:16] Yeah, man, fuck it.

[31:17] Out of business.

[31:18] Just do whatever.

[31:19] Let's do whatever, man.

[31:20] That's fun, man.

[31:21] Do a silly one.

[31:23] Just for us.

[31:24] Just do a silly one.

[31:24] Yeah, just do an

[31:25] oops all monsters movie.

[31:26] Why not?

[31:27] Let's just do it.

[31:28] So, guys,

[31:29] I've got a couple more costumes

[31:30] for us to look at

[31:31] but first,

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Elliott Kalan

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Dan McCoy

[33:43] It's possible

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[34:01] Name a more iconic duo.

[34:03] I'll wait.

[34:04] So, again,

[34:05] that is November 16th

[34:08] at 9.30 p.m.

[34:09] at Sleeping Village

[34:10] in Chicago.

[34:11] And also,

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Dan McCoy

[34:37] If you've missed

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[34:58] back to the 1950s.

[35:00] I won't go through

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[35:02] them before,

[35:02] but once we hit

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[35:11] bad movies in history.

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Elliott Kalan

[35:28] And before we get back

[35:30] to the main show,

[35:31] I wanted to remind

[35:32] our listeners that I have

[35:33] a book coming out

[35:34] very soon.

[35:35] On November 12th,

[35:36] you'll be able to buy

[35:37] Joke Farming,

[35:38] How to Write Comedy

[35:38] and Other Nonsense

[35:39] by me.

[35:40] It is a whole book

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[35:43] my method for writing them,

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[35:48] a professional joke writer

[35:49] without tearing your hair out,

[35:51] for which you would need

[35:52] hymns to replace that hair.

[35:53] And also how jokes work

[35:54] in different settings.

[35:55] So that's coming out

[35:56] from the University of Chicago Press

[35:57] November 12th.

[35:58] You can pre-order it now,

[35:59] I believe.

[36:00] And I actually,

[36:01] I believe I'll be appearing

[36:03] in person

[36:03] earlier in the day

[36:05] on November 16th

[36:06] when we're in Chicago

[36:07] to talk about this book

[36:09] and I'll tell you more details

[36:10] when I know what they are.

[36:11] So you can make it

[36:11] a whole Elite Kalen day.

[36:13] See me at a bookstore

[36:13] and then go see me

[36:15] talking about the flop stuff

[36:16] with these guys.

[36:18] Mm-hmm.

Dan McCoy

[36:19] Talking about the flop stuff

[36:21] with the flop boys.

Elliott Kalan

[36:22] with the flop boys.

[36:23] Flopping it up

[36:23] with the floppers.

S5

[36:29] Hi, I'm Travis McElroy.

[36:31] I'm here with Maria

[36:32] and we're excited

[36:33] because as a member

[36:34] of the month,

[36:34] Maria, thank you so much

[36:35] for being a listener

[36:36] and a supporter of the show.

[36:38] Hi.

[36:39] How did you find out

[36:40] about the shows?

S6

[36:41] When my daughter

[36:41] was in high school,

[36:43] we kind of connected

[36:45] over Taz.

[36:46] She introduced me

[36:47] to Schmanners

[36:48] and Sawbones.

S5

[36:49] What made you decide

[36:50] to become a MaxFun member?

S6

[36:52] I kind of decided

[36:53] that with the economy

[36:55] being so difficult,

[36:56] it was worth me

[36:57] giving up my Starbucks

[36:59] to join in with you guys.

S5

[37:01] Well, Maria,

[37:02] I owe you a cup of coffee then.

[37:04] At some point,

[37:04] I'll get a cup of coffee

[37:05] into your hands

[37:06] to pay you back.

[37:07] Okay.

[37:08] Maria, again,

[37:09] thank you so much

[37:10] for your support.

S6

[37:11] Thank you very,

[37:12] very much

[37:12] for your time

[37:13] and getting a chance

[37:15] to be the member

[37:15] of the month.

[37:16] My daughter was shocked

[37:18] when she found out

[37:19] about it,

[37:19] so I can't wait

[37:21] for her to actually

[37:22] maybe catch a little bit

[37:23] of this.

[37:24] I can rub it

[37:25] in her face

[37:25] a little bit.

S5

[37:26] That's what we do it for.

[37:27] Thank you

[37:28] and thanks to everybody

[37:29] for your support.

[37:30] Maria,

S6

[37:30] have a great month.

[37:31] You have an amazing

[37:32] month as well.

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Elliott Kalan

[38:18] Okay guys,

[38:19] welcome back to this

[38:20] Halloween

[38:21] spooky post-Halloween

[38:23] Halloween costume

[38:24] Halloween movies mini.

[38:26] Let's go to our

[38:26] next movie.

[38:27] Okay guys,

[38:29] E.T. has a lot

[38:29] of costumes in it.

[38:30] There's another movie

[38:32] that famously has a lot

[38:33] of Halloween costumes

[38:33] in it.

[38:34] That is,

[38:34] of course,

[38:35] Mean Girls.

[38:35] I'm talking about

[38:36] the 2004 version,

[38:37] not the musical version.

[38:38] I have not seen it.

[38:39] I do not know

[38:40] if they have

[38:40] Halloween costumes in it.

[38:41] They probably do.

[38:42] It's pretty much

[38:42] the same movie.

[38:43] It's the same one.

[38:44] This is

[38:45] the movie Mean Girls.

[38:47] As our resident

[38:48] Mean Girl,

[38:49] Dan,

[38:49] would you like to describe

[38:50] some of these costumes?

Dan McCoy

[38:52] Well,

[38:53] the idea of this,

[38:56] of course,

[38:56] in the movie

[38:56] is that Katie,

[38:59] having come from being

[39:01] homeschooled in Africa,

[39:02] does not realize

[39:03] that among these girls,

[39:07] the point of Halloween

[39:09] is to dress up

[39:10] in sexy costumes.

[39:12] And so they are,

[39:13] you know,

[39:13] like various sexy animals,

[39:15] I guess.

[39:16] Like your cats

[39:18] and your,

[39:18] looks like Regina's

[39:19] like a rabbit.

[39:22] It's a regular Zootopia,

Elliott Kalan

[39:23] just sexy animals

[39:24] just running around.

Dan McCoy

[39:25] But our heroine

[39:26] is dressed as a,

[39:28] Or Disney's Robin Hood,

[39:29] as sort of a zombie bride

[39:31] with a big fake teeth.

[39:32] Hold on.

Elliott Kalan

[39:33] Guys,

[39:33] this is,

[39:34] I hate to interrupt you, Dan.

[39:34] This is not part of it.

[39:35] Do you think

[39:35] Disney's Robin Hood

[39:36] and Zootopia

[39:37] are set in the same universe?

Stuart Wellington

[39:39] Probably,

[39:39] yeah, yeah.

[39:40] You know,

[39:41] at least a few years later.

Dan McCoy

[39:42] Yeah,

Elliott Kalan

[39:43] a few years later.

[39:45] Well,

Dan McCoy

[39:46] the zoo society,

[39:47] you know,

[39:48] advanced so quickly.

Elliott Kalan

[39:49] Yeah,

[39:49] that's true

[39:50] because animals

[39:50] are smarter than people.

[39:51] What if it started?

[39:52] And they live shorter lives.

[39:54] Oh, yeah.

[39:54] You go through

[39:55] the generations much faster.

[39:56] So,

[39:56] Hallie,

[39:57] would you agree with that?

[39:57] Then Robin Hood

[39:58] must be what,

[39:58] like 40,

[39:59] 50 years before Zootopia?

[40:01] Yeah.

[40:04] All right.

[40:04] I was like,

[40:04] what are you guys

Hallie Haglund

[40:05] talking about again?

[40:06] No,

[40:06] I mean,

[40:07] I remember Zootopia

[40:08] better than Robin Hood.

[40:09] Is that sad?

[40:11] Is it sad?

[40:12] Is it sad?

Dan McCoy

[40:13] what's sad anymore.

[40:14] So much is sad

[40:15] that it's hard to say.

[40:16] It's all sad.

Elliott Kalan

[40:17] Are these mean girls

[40:18] costumes sad?

[40:19] Hallie,

[40:19] as our other

[40:19] resident mean girl,

[40:20] how do you feel

[40:21] about these costumes?

Hallie Haglund

[40:23] I feel,

[40:25] oh,

[40:27] Never mind.

Elliott Kalan

[40:27] Nope,

[40:28] go on,

[40:28] follow that tangent.

[40:29] Where's your mind

[40:29] taking you?

Hallie Haglund

[40:30] Well,

[40:31] I was going to anticipate

[40:33] a movie.

[40:35] Oh,

[40:36] but it might show up later.

[40:37] Yeah,

[40:37] it might show up later.

[40:38] Hallie can see my list,

[40:39] so don't talk about that.

[40:40] No,

[40:40] yeah,

[40:40] I don't think,

[40:40] okay,

[40:41] whatever.

[40:42] I will say,

[40:43] these are,

[40:45] I love Amanda Seyfried's costume

[40:48] because that's a dress

[40:49] that I would have worn

[40:50] in the 90s.

[40:50] That kind of baby doll dress?

[40:51] Yep,

[40:52] with the high ribbon.

Elliott Kalan

[40:55] Very,

[40:55] very like kind of

[40:56] Regency period

[40:56] to have that ribbon

[40:57] very high,

[40:58] not at the waist,

[40:59] but below the bust slightly.

[41:01] Mm-hmm.

[41:02] What about the ears?

[41:03] Would you have worn

[41:03] those little,

[41:04] what are they like?

[41:04] Mouse ears.

[41:05] Mouse ears?

Hallie Haglund

[41:06] Yeah,

[41:06] no,

[41:07] I wouldn't have.

[41:08] Okay.

[41:08] I mean,

[41:09] these are like,

[41:09] whatever.

[41:10] I mean,

Stuart Wellington

[41:10] if you didn't wear the ears though,

[41:11] there's like no costume.

Hallie Haglund

[41:12] I know,

[41:13] I just like the dress,

[41:14] okay?

Elliott Kalan

[41:14] Okay.

[41:15] So you give it a 10

[41:15] because you like that dress.

[41:16] Yeah.

[41:17] Okay.

Hallie Haglund

[41:17] I don't know,

[41:18] I think,

[41:18] I like Lindsay Lohan's costume.

[41:20] It's kind of funny.

[41:23] Which one is she?

[41:24] She's her mom's wedding dress.

Elliott Kalan

[41:26] Oh,

[41:26] she's the bride?

[41:27] Yeah.

Hallie Haglund

[41:28] You didn't know

[41:29] who Lindsay Lohan is?

Elliott Kalan

[41:30] I don't remember

[41:31] which one is which.

[41:33] You're looking at them.

[41:34] You're literally

[41:34] looking at their pictures.

[41:36] She looks different.

[41:37] She's in costume

[41:37] with a wig and everything.

[41:39] It doesn't look like her.

[41:39] She's got fake teeth.

[41:40] Yeah.

[41:43] They're fine.

[41:45] They're fine.

[41:46] Okay.

[41:46] So Stuart,

[41:47] what's your opinion?

[41:48] As our third resident mean girl,

[41:49] what do you think

[41:50] about these mean girl costumes?

Stuart Wellington

[41:51] Yeah,

[41:52] I would say

[41:53] Regina George's costume

[41:55] obviously is incredible.

[41:57] Everything she does

[41:57] is perfect.

[41:58] She rules.

[41:59] Katie didn't quite get the brief.

[42:01] She didn't realize

[42:01] she was supposed to be

[42:02] a little bit sexy.

[42:03] That's not scary.

[42:04] Nobody wants a scary costume.

[42:06] You're saying

[42:06] it's less sexy.

Elliott Kalan

[42:07] A woman with blood

[42:09] pouring out of her mouth

[42:10] is less sexy

[42:10] than say like a mouse

[42:11] or a cat or a bunny.

Dan McCoy

[42:13] Yeah,

[42:13] I've never quite,

[42:14] I mean like I get

[42:15] that they're low cut

[42:16] and whatnot

[42:16] and there's like

[42:17] it's an excuse

[42:18] to wear a bodysuit

[42:18] but the sexiness

[42:20] of the animal side of it

[42:22] has always eluded me.

Stuart Wellington

[42:23] I have some very interesting

[42:25] artworks I would like

[42:26] to show you

[42:27] after the podcast.

[42:28] I'm aware that

Dan McCoy

[42:29] like other people

[42:30] have that.

[42:30] There's a certain tiger

[42:31] from Zootopia

[42:32] that I'd like to show you,

[42:33] Daniel.

Dan McCoy

[42:33] It's fine.

[42:33] If that's your thing,

[42:34] I'm not trying to say

[42:35] it's wrong.

[42:35] I'm just saying it's never.

[42:36] Well, I mean,

Elliott Kalan

[42:36] if you act on that

[42:37] with an animal,

[42:38] there is a wrongness to it.

[42:40] Once it leaves the realm

[42:43] of play acting,

Dan McCoy

[42:44] then yeah.

[42:45] So what did you say, Stuart?

[42:47] We got off on a,

Stuart Wellington

[42:48] yeah, I don't remember.

[42:49] Regina George rules

[42:51] the rest aren't as great.

[42:53] Yeah, I mean,

[42:54] well, I'll agree with that.

Hallie Haglund

[42:55] What about the man

[42:56] dressed as a soldier

[42:57] behind Lindsay Lohan?

Dan McCoy

[43:00] Oh, yeah.

[43:00] Just kind of a standard soldier.

[43:03] Wow.

[43:04] Disrespect for our armed forces.

[43:06] Wow, no thank you

Elliott Kalan

[43:08] for your service.

Dan McCoy

[43:10] So,

[43:11] the girls who are dressed

[43:14] in sexy outfits,

[43:16] like, look,

[43:17] I'm pro the idea

[43:18] of sexiness in general,

[43:19] but these are sort of

[43:19] pro forma,

[43:20] like sexy Halloween costumes.

Hallie Haglund

[43:22] Then why don't you dress

[43:23] a little sexy?

[43:24] Why don't you dress

[43:24] a little sexy?

[43:25] Yeah, Dan,

Dan McCoy

[43:25] just a little bit.

[43:27] Yeah, I know.

[43:28] And I can smile more, too.

[43:30] Dan, let you know

[43:31] the side out.

[43:32] I just like that smile,

[43:32] not smell more, right?

[43:34] He smells enough.

[43:35] Whatever you want, baby.

[43:38] It's just kind of standard.

[43:39] Like, those ones

[43:40] are, like, fine.

Elliott Kalan

[43:41] So, how would you make

[43:43] them more interesting, Dan,

[43:44] for you, personally?

Dan McCoy

[43:45] I'm just saying

[43:45] there's not a lot of,

[43:46] like, innovation here

[43:48] or interesting.

Stuart Wellington

[43:49] You're saying

[43:50] that's Lacey Chabert, right?

[43:52] Yes.

[43:52] Yeah.

[43:53] She should have, like,

[43:54] a whip or something,

[43:54] so she's more like

[43:55] a cat woman.

[43:56] I didn't say that, no.

[43:59] And Katie...

Dan McCoy

[44:00] You're trying to

[44:01] zhuzh it up.

[44:03] Like, it's a little

[44:04] more interesting,

[44:04] but it's also not, like,

[44:05] that different,

[44:07] so I'm going to give it

[44:07] a five.

[44:09] Okay, yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[44:10] All right.

[44:10] There you go.

[44:11] And how would you...

[44:12] I feel like this is

[44:12] one of the ones

[44:13] where it's the easiest.

[44:13] How do you make this

[44:14] a Halloween movie

[44:15] with Michael Myers?

[44:16] I feel like there's

[44:17] such a thin line

[44:18] between Mean Girls

[44:19] and a standard

[44:19] slasher movie

[44:20] in a lot of ways.

[44:21] So you have the girl

[44:23] who's the outcast.

[44:24] You have the mean girls.

[44:25] The slasher kills

[44:26] the mean girls

[44:26] one by one, right?

[44:27] Oh, no.

[44:28] I feel like Michael Myers

Hallie Haglund

[44:29] is a new student

[44:30] at the school.

[44:31] Oh, yeah.

[44:32] And he...

[44:33] Or he would show up

Elliott Kalan

[44:34] in a scary costume,

[44:35] which is not what

[44:35] he's supposed to.

[44:36] He's supposed to dress sexy.

Hallie Haglund

[44:37] Yeah, but then

[44:37] Lindsay Lohan is like,

[44:39] I get you.

[44:40] We both come

[44:41] from different worlds.

[44:42] Yeah.

[44:42] And then they have

[44:43] the romantic story.

Dan McCoy

[44:45] Oh.

[44:46] Not Aaron Samuels?

[44:47] Or let me pitch you

[44:48] that Michael Myers

[44:49] becomes the most popular

[44:51] kid in school

[44:52] and everyone else

[44:53] wants to be a slasher

[44:55] to be like Michael Myers.

[44:56] Because he does

[44:57] like a cool skateboard trick.

[44:58] Yeah, probably.

[44:59] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[45:00] So he's just...

[45:01] Everyone's just killing

[45:01] each other all the time

[45:02] in this school.

[45:03] Yeah.

[45:03] You call it Slasher High.

[45:05] This would be fun.

[45:05] This is a fun movie.

[45:06] Yeah, we did it.

[45:07] We did it.

[45:07] Okay, guys.

[45:08] So that's Mean Girls.

[45:09] Coming up next,

[45:10] we've got another movie

[45:11] that's also about a teen

[45:13] who can't quite fit in.

[45:14] It's Donnie Darko

[45:15] from 2001.

[45:16] Now, I'm curious

[45:17] what you guys will think

[45:18] about this costume

[45:19] because it's a little

[45:20] reminiscent of something

[45:20] we've seen before.

[45:21] Stuart, can you describe

Stuart Wellington

[45:23] So you have

[45:24] Jake Gyllenhaal.

[45:26] He is wearing a...

[45:27] And that's not part

Elliott Kalan

[45:27] of the costume.

[45:28] That's the actor.

[45:29] He's not dressed

[45:29] as Jake Gyllenhaal.

[45:30] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[45:31] The main character,

[45:32] Donnie Darko,

[45:34] is wearing a...

[45:36] It looks like a black bodysuit

[45:37] with a print of a skeleton

[45:40] to make it look like

[45:41] you're just seeing

[45:43] straight through his flesh

[45:44] to just the bones.

[45:46] And on top of that,

[45:47] he is wearing a gray hoodie.

[45:49] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[45:50] So it's a little bit

[45:51] of a mashup

[45:52] of the Karate Kid

[45:53] and E.T. costumes

[45:54] in a way.

[45:55] Kind of, yeah.

[45:56] Yeah.

[45:56] So do you guys

[45:57] give this more points

[45:58] for being a clever combination

[46:01] or do you take off points

[46:02] for being so true?

[46:03] Well, it's clearly

[46:03] a reference to the fact

Stuart Wellington

[46:04] that Drew Barrymore

[46:05] is in this movie

[46:06] and in E.T.

Elliott Kalan

[46:07] Oh, yeah.

[46:08] But how does

[46:09] the Karate Kid aspect

[46:10] E.T.?

[46:11] Because he's wearing

[46:13] a hoodie?

[46:14] That's what Elliot said.

[46:15] That's what I said.

[46:16] The trademark hoodie

[46:17] from E.T.

[46:18] There's too many

[46:19] Elliotts in this conversation.

Hallie Haglund

[46:21] I'm getting very confused.

Elliott Kalan

[46:22] That's fair.

[46:22] And also,

[46:23] here's my special guest,

Hallie Haglund

[46:24] Elliot Gould.

[46:25] Come on in.

Dan McCoy

[46:26] No, I give this a one

[46:28] because this is

[46:29] a lazy man's costume.

[46:30] It's just like,

[46:31] I'll put on this thing

[46:33] that has a skeleton on it

[46:34] and then I'm not going

[46:35] to do any makeup

[46:36] for my face at all

[46:37] and I'm going to put

[46:39] a hoodie on.

Elliott Kalan

[46:40] Yeah, and you see

[46:40] he's still wearing a watch.

[46:41] What skeleton

[46:43] is wearing a watch?

[46:44] Skeletons don't care

[46:44] about what time it is.

[46:45] They're dead.

[46:45] It would fall right off.

[46:47] Yeah, thank you.

[46:47] You can't make it tight enough.

[46:49] Yeah.

[46:50] I mean, I agree with you.

[46:51] I feel like this is

[46:51] a lazy costume.

[46:52] Again, Donnie has some things

[46:53] going on in his life

[46:54] emotionally at this time.

[46:56] Not jury number two

[46:57] type emotional stuff.

[46:58] I mean, he's not in a jury

[46:59] on a crime that he committed.

Dan McCoy

[47:01] Yeah, but he's supposed to.

[47:03] Like, he should have been dead.

[47:04] Like, I feel like

[47:05] that's a pretty high level

[47:06] amount of stress.

[47:07] You'd think it would inspire him

Elliott Kalan

[47:08] to have a better

[47:09] Halloween costume, though.

[47:10] Yeah.

[47:12] So, how do you include

[47:13] Michael Myers?

Hallie Haglund

[47:14] Yeah, you got another day.

[47:16] You got a new lease on life.

[47:18] Throw that joy

[47:19] into the Halloween costume.

Elliott Kalan

[47:20] Live every day

[47:21] like it's your last.

[47:22] End of that day

[47:22] is Halloween.

[47:23] Come on.

Stuart Wellington

[47:23] So, I know how to do this one.

[47:25] So, Donnie's watching

[47:26] and he's at the movie theater

[47:27] watching one of his favorite movies,

[47:28] one of the Halloweens,

[47:29] and then Michael Myers

[47:31] just, like,

[47:32] climbs through the screen

[47:33] showing the true magic

[47:34] of cinema

[47:35] before he starts

[47:36] butchering the town.

[47:38] I guess so.

[47:38] Okay.

Dan McCoy

[47:39] Yeah.

[47:40] I mean, I guess there's a scene

[47:41] where Donnie goes

[47:42] to the movies,

[47:42] but otherwise

[47:43] it doesn't seem to be, like,

[47:44] linked to the...

Stuart Wellington

[47:45] But doesn't he, like,

[47:46] imagine something happens

[47:47] with the screen or something?

Dan McCoy

[47:49] No.

[47:50] Well, I mean, like,

[47:51] there's a tube

[47:51] that comes out of Donnie's, like,

[47:53] chest that sort of

[47:54] is, like, a time...

[47:55] Like, you can see, like,

[47:58] the paths of time.

[48:00] Here's the next.

[48:01] I did not remember

[48:02] this movie at all.

[48:03] It's not like a

Dan McCoy

[48:03] Purple Rose and Cairo situation.

Elliott Kalan

[48:04] Yeah.

[48:05] The time tube comes out.

[48:06] Michael Myers pops out of it.

[48:08] He's slashing around

[48:09] and then it's a fight

[48:09] between Michael Myers

[48:10] and that bunny

[48:10] from...

[48:12] That mean bunny

[48:12] from Donnie Darko.

[48:14] Frank, yeah.

[48:15] Frank, the original

[48:16] bad bunny.

[48:18] I guess Harvey

[48:19] would be the original...

[48:20] Actually, Peter Rabbit

[48:21] would be the original

[48:21] bad bunny, right?

[48:22] You know, he's stealing

[48:23] from McGregor's farm

[48:24] and stuff like that.

[48:25] Naughty.

[48:25] Went to bed without his dinner.

[48:27] And Peter Rabbit

[48:28] did do a halftime show

Stuart Wellington

[48:29] at the Super Bowl.

[48:30] Yeah, somebody emailed Benito

[48:32] and tell him

[48:32] to change his nom to her.

Elliott Kalan

[48:36] So I think we can...

[48:37] I think we get...

[48:39] But how does it end?

[48:40] Who would win at the end?

[48:41] Does Michael Myers

[48:42] just kill everybody?

[48:43] I mean, Donnie Darko's

[48:43] gonna die eventually

[48:45] at the end of the movie.

[48:46] Spoiler alert.

[48:46] They're like a plane

Stuart Wellington

[48:47] falls on him or something, right?

Elliott Kalan

[48:48] A plane falls on Michael Myers?

Stuart Wellington

[48:50] Yeah, on both of them.

Elliott Kalan

[48:52] Yeah, they're wrestling.

[48:52] It's a real anticlimax

[48:54] of an ending.

[48:55] It's a real hell

[48:56] in the Pacific of an ending.

[48:57] Yeah.

[48:58] Okay, guys.

[48:59] The next movie,

[49:00] this is a director

[49:00] we've already seen on the list.

[49:02] A director who is known

[49:03] for telling tales

[49:05] with intensity,

[49:06] thrills,

[49:07] adventure,

[49:08] a maestro of modern horror.

[49:10] We got another

[49:10] Clint Eastwood movie on here.

[49:11] It's a perfect world

[49:12] from 1993.

[49:13] This is a kind of

[49:14] small-scale crime drama

[49:16] starring Kevin Costner

[49:17] and a little kid.

[49:18] And Hallie,

[49:19] can you describe

[49:19] this little kid's costume?

Hallie Haglund

[49:20] Well, he appears

[49:21] to be dressed as Casper.

[49:23] He's wearing

[49:24] a plastic Casper mask,

[49:27] but then he's wearing

[49:28] a white sweatshirt

[49:30] with just a picture

[49:32] of Casper on it.

[49:33] So there are two Casper faces

[49:36] in this costume,

[49:37] which is a little confusing.

Elliott Kalan

[49:38] Yeah, and neither of them

[49:39] is Casper Van Dien,

[49:40] which is even more confusing.

[49:41] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[49:41] Yeah, but this is what I like

[49:43] about old costumes

[49:44] where it's like,

[49:45] you know,

[49:46] they weren't confident.

[49:47] They couldn't make

[49:47] the costume look enough

[49:49] like the thing it was,

[49:50] so they would also

[49:51] just put a picture

[49:51] of what it was

[49:52] on the shirt

[49:53] that the person wore,

[49:54] which is just

[49:55] a classic Halloween move,

[49:57] I think.

[49:59] Hallie's wandered away

[50:00] and he's kind of

[50:01] driving this.

Elliott Kalan

[50:03] Sorry, I just realized

[50:04] that when my son

[50:05] had come in earlier

[50:05] that he had left

[50:06] the door open.

Stuart Wellington

[50:07] So I wanted to...

[50:07] Yeah, you were worried

[50:08] that he might come in

[50:09] and see this spooky ghost

[50:10] on the screen.

[50:11] He'd get scared.

Hallie Haglund

[50:12] He'd be so frightened.

[50:12] And get an idea

[50:13] of a Halloween costume.

[50:15] Now, this is clearly

Elliott Kalan

[50:15] a store-bought costume.

[50:17] I think we can all see that.

[50:18] Yeah.

[50:18] Or possibly stolen.

[50:20] Yeah, you never know.

[50:22] It's a stolen costume.

[50:23] That's true.

[50:24] But it's not a homemade costume

[50:25] and it's a big plot point

[50:26] in this movie.

[50:27] Have you guys ever seen

[50:27] A Perfect World?

[50:27] Yeah, he doesn't have

Stuart Wellington

[50:28] a 3D printer

[50:29] printing out vacuum form masks.

Elliott Kalan

[50:31] No?

[50:32] Have you guys ever seen

[50:33] A Perfect World?

Stuart Wellington

[50:33] Yeah, I saw it back in the day.

Elliott Kalan

[50:35] Okay, so you know,

[50:36] it's a good movie

[50:36] and you know that

[50:37] part of the plot

[50:38] is that this kid

[50:39] is that his family

[50:40] is Jehovah's Witness

[50:40] so his mom will not

[50:41] let him celebrate Halloween.

[50:42] So it's not until

[50:43] he is taken hostage

[50:44] by a man on the run

[50:46] from jail

[50:46] that he's able

[50:47] to finally dress up

[50:48] as Casper the Friendly Ghost.

[50:50] What do you guys think about

[50:51] Yeah, but what do you guys

[50:51] think about this costume

[50:52] in terms of scores?

[50:53] What scores are you going to get?

[50:54] Not in terms of scores

[50:55] that the strip club, right?

[50:57] But in terms of scoring

[50:58] that costume.

[50:58] Oh my drugs.

Dan McCoy

[50:59] Okay, well it's going to take me

[51:01] a couple minutes.

[51:01] I mean, it's store-bought.

[51:04] It's not that fancy.

[51:06] So like, you know,

[51:07] on the usual scale

[51:09] it would get low marks

[51:10] but I have such nostalgia

[51:12] for this type of old crappy costume

[51:15] that I think I'm,

[51:16] I can't go any lower than a six.

Hallie Haglund

[51:18] Wow.

[51:19] It sucks.

[51:21] I give it a two.

Stuart Wellington

[51:24] And Stuart, what do you say?

[51:25] I'm going to say

[51:26] it's a seven for me

[51:27] because it looks just like Casper.

Elliott Kalan

[51:29] I mean, Casper does have

[51:31] a picture of himself

[51:32] on his chest.

[51:34] And hair.

[51:34] And hair peeking out.

[51:36] The back of Casper's head

[51:37] is just a regular kid's head

[51:39] with hair.

[51:40] And Casper's eyes,

[51:41] where the pupils are,

[51:42] you do see other eyes behind them.

[51:44] You know, he's got double eyes.

[51:46] Uh-huh.

[51:46] Like a doll's eyes, yeah.

[51:48] Yeah, this is the kind of costume

[51:49] where if it was a modern day

[51:51] you'd be like,

[51:51] oh, they went out

[51:52] and got a vintage costume

[51:53] but it's set in the 60s.

[51:55] So this is at the time

[51:56] a current costume.

[51:57] And I don't know

[51:57] if that makes me like it

[51:58] more or less.

[51:59] If he's the kind of kid

[52:00] who's just wearing

[52:01] whatever costume he buys

[52:02] in the store

[52:02] or if he's a Rushmore type kid

[52:05] who's going out of his way

[52:06] to get a vintage costume.

[52:08] So I think

[52:09] we've had a wide range

[52:10] of feelings about this

[52:11] and I think they're all valid.

[52:13] How do we make this

[52:14] a Halloween Michael Myers movie?

[52:17] They're on the run,

[52:18] on the road.

[52:19] Do they run into

[52:20] Michael Myers somewhere?

Dan McCoy

[52:21] What if instead of a kid

[52:24] he takes Michael Myers

[52:25] on his experience?

[52:26] Well, like little Michael Myers

[52:28] who also wore

[52:28] like a stupid

[52:29] Oh, that's true.

[52:30] He did a little costume.

[52:30] He's wearing that

[52:31] William Shatner

Elliott Kalan

[52:32] and maybe this explains

[52:33] how it got painted white

[52:34] like that at some point.

[52:35] Well, he's a clown

Dan McCoy

[52:36] at the beginning of the movie, right?

[52:37] Like that's what he's wearing

[52:37] at the...

[52:38] Is that why he's like that?

[52:40] Yeah, real funny

[52:40] killing people, Dan.

[52:42] What?

Elliott Kalan

[52:43] Maybe that's your idea

[52:44] of hilarity, Dan.

[52:45] Oh, the costume

[52:45] is a clown costume.

[52:46] Dan's like that famous.

[52:49] But doctor,

[52:49] I'm Michael Myers.

[52:51] The famous comedy Halloween

[52:52] in which funny man

[52:54] kills all these people.

[52:57] What if they're...

[52:58] What if they're...

[52:59] Yeah, I like that idea.

[53:00] Or what if Michael Myers

[53:01] is the one who takes

[53:02] the kid hostage

[53:02] and he's got to learn

[53:04] how to be a slasher?

[53:05] And that's how he...

[53:05] Like Lone Wolf and Cub.

[53:07] Yeah, exactly.

[53:08] Yeah, it's like Lone Wolf and Cub.

Hallie Haglund

[53:09] What if Michael Myers

[53:10] is just a Jehovah's Witness

[53:12] and he's just like

[53:14] sort of an extra

[53:15] in this movie?

Elliott Kalan

[53:16] Oh, okay.

[53:17] He just shows up

[53:17] in the background.

[53:18] Yeah.

[53:19] It would be funny

[53:20] if they're like,

[53:21] we're on the run.

[53:22] We got it.

[53:23] We're following this crook

[53:25] on the run.

[53:25] And they're like,

[53:26] we got a newsflash.

[53:27] There's also a guy

[53:28] murdering people

[53:29] at this suburb in California.

[53:30] Let them deal with it.

[53:31] We've got our own problem.

[53:32] And occasionally

Stuart Wellington

[53:33] he's in the background

[53:34] just like watching them.

Elliott Kalan

[53:35] Yeah, it's more of a

[53:36] Where's Waldo

[53:37] than a Halloween movie.

[53:39] All right.

[53:40] There's just one movie

[53:41] left on the list.

[53:42] This is another movie

[53:43] that is by a modern day

[53:45] master of scares,

[53:47] someone who brings

[53:48] such tension,

[53:49] such discomfort

[53:51] to the movies

[53:51] that they make.

[53:53] It is Affliction

[53:55] directed by Paul Schrader

[53:56] from 1997.

[53:57] I remember a recent

Dan McCoy

[53:58] heartbeats.

[54:00] I remember a recent

[54:00] minute where you said,

[54:03] Dan, you can't just

[54:03] keep doing the same joke

[54:05] where you pretend

[54:06] that this is a small

[54:07] indie movie

[54:07] and it's a huge movie.

[54:08] Oh, that's right.

Elliott Kalan

[54:09] I'm being a hypocrite.

[54:10] Well, what can I tell you?

[54:11] I've changed.

[54:12] Now I see it from

[54:12] the other side of the mirror.

[54:13] And Dan,

[54:13] I'm willing to admit

[54:14] I'm the big enough man

[54:16] to say I was wrong.

[54:17] You were wrong at the time.

[54:18] But now that I feel this way,

[54:19] you were right.

[54:19] And I'm right now.

[54:21] So when the facts change,

[54:25] I change with them.

[54:26] You were wrong back then.

[54:27] But now obviously

[54:28] things have changed

[54:29] and now you're right.

[54:30] Makes sense.

[54:30] Yeah.

[54:31] So Affliction,

[54:32] a story of violence

[54:34] in between generations.

[54:36] It starts at Halloween.

[54:37] There really isn't a scene

[54:39] with Nick Nolte

[54:40] wearing a Halloween costume.

[54:41] But as you can see

[54:41] in this picture,

[54:42] he does have

[54:42] a kind of costume.

[54:44] Hallie, can you describe

[54:44] what he's wearing here?

Hallie Haglund

[54:45] He's wearing an orange vest

[54:48] that says school.

[54:49] I'm assuming it's

[54:50] a crossing guard

[54:51] sort of vest.

[54:53] Uh-huh.

[54:54] And over his heavy winter coat

[54:57] along with orange gloves.

Elliott Kalan

[54:59] Yep.

[55:00] That's it.

[55:00] So he's dressed

[55:01] as a crossing guard.

[55:02] I mean,

[55:02] it's not so much a costume

[55:03] because he is acting

[55:04] as a crossing guard

[55:05] in the scene.

[55:06] But I think it's good enough.

[55:08] It's a movie that starts

[55:09] at Halloween, you know.

[55:11] So guys,

[55:12] how would you judge

[55:14] And I want you to judge it

[55:15] in two ways.

[55:15] But what Dan,

[55:16] do you say what I'm saying?

[55:16] And I'm going to tell you

[55:17] there's two ways

[55:17] I want you to judge it.

Dan McCoy

[55:18] He's dressed as a crossing guard,

[55:20] but it's not the movie

[55:21] The Crossing Guard.

[55:22] So it's too confusing for me

[55:23] and I just can't.

[55:24] I would have to give it

[55:25] a zero for that.

[55:26] Okay, wow.

[55:26] But go on and say what the...

Elliott Kalan

[55:28] Oh, right.

[55:29] Well, I was going to say

[55:29] judge it as a costume

[55:31] and also judge it

[55:32] as a Nick Nolte costume.

[55:33] How is it as a Nick Nolte costume?

Stuart Wellington

[55:35] Yeah, it's dead on.

[55:36] Yeah, no question.

[55:37] I would say

[55:38] the biggest problem with this

[55:40] is that

[55:41] if this is a Halloween costume,

[55:44] he has no bag

[55:45] to carry all the candy

[55:46] he's going to receive.

[55:47] Oh, yeah.

[55:47] So he gets a zero for me.

[55:49] Wow.

[55:49] This is a new metric

[55:51] I just made up

[55:52] and have not applied

[55:53] to any of my past scores.

[55:54] So retroactively,

Elliott Kalan

[55:55] you're not adding that

[55:56] to everyone

[55:56] because none of the others

[55:57] had bags with them,

[55:58] I think, yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[55:59] No, for some reason,

[56:00] the lack of bag

[56:01] is terminal to this costume.

[56:03] Yeah.

Hallie Haglund

[56:04] I will say

[56:04] I would give it a 10.

[56:06] You know exactly what he is

[56:07] as soon as you see him.

[56:08] He disappears

[56:09] into the role

[56:10] of crossing guard.

[56:12] Excellent.

Elliott Kalan

[56:13] And I would agree with Hallie

[56:15] because I would say also

[56:15] you know exactly what he is

[56:17] but also

[56:18] you would say,

[56:19] oh, crossing guard's

[56:19] not that scary.

[56:20] If Nick Nolte

[56:21] was your crossing guard,

[56:22] you would be frightened.

[56:24] Yeah.

[56:25] Don't move, don't move.

[56:26] The cars are coming.

[56:27] It would be really scary.

[56:28] Yeah.

[56:29] So I think

[56:30] I'm going to,

[56:31] what I love is that

[56:32] we've had such a range

[56:33] of responses

[56:34] for each of these costumes.

[56:35] Some of these costumes

[56:35] have big fans

[56:36] and some have big detractors.

[56:38] Sometimes the same costumes

[56:40] and you guys have

[56:41] really made your feelings

[56:42] felt and heard.

[56:43] That's what art's all about, Elliot.

[56:45] Exactly.

[56:45] Yeah.

[56:45] It's all in the eye

[56:46] of the beholder.

[56:47] You think AI could do this?

[56:49] I don't think so.

[56:49] It couldn't do this

[56:50] and it wouldn't want to do this.

[56:51] Yeah, why?

[56:52] What would it even try?

[56:52] What would be a possible reason?

[56:54] So finally, affliction.

[56:56] How do we make this

[56:56] into a Michael Myers

[56:57] Halloween movie?

Hallie Haglund

[56:58] Michael Myers has to cross the street.

Dan McCoy

[57:03] He can't give to the kids.

[57:05] It's kind of like Frogger,

[57:06] but with Michael Myers.

Elliott Kalan

[57:08] It's called Slasher.

[57:09] Yeah, yeah.

[57:10] I think that's,

[57:11] yeah, the kids

[57:11] are on the other side of the street.

[57:13] Michael Myers is there.

[57:14] He goes,

[57:14] how am I going to get across?

[57:15] I don't know when it's going to be safe to cross.

[57:16] That's when a heroic crossing guard costume wearer.

[57:21] I'm not a real crossing guard,

[57:22] but I guess I'll step in and take the role.

[57:25] He's both the hero of the moment.

[57:27] He's also-

[57:27] If you got me, then who?

[57:30] I got to be the change I want to see in the world.

[57:32] Better to light a candle

[57:33] than curse the darkness.

[57:35] So Michael Myers gets across.

[57:38] Michael Myers kills those children.

[57:39] How does Nick Nolte feel about it?

[57:41] I've got to imagine,

[57:42] probably torn because it's like-

[57:45] Devastated.

[57:45] He didn't want those kids dead,

[57:46] but the other hand,

[57:47] he did a great job

[57:48] of helping Michael Myers cross the street.

Dan McCoy

[57:50] Well, it's a Paul Schrader movie,

[57:51] so yeah, the tragedy fits.

[57:53] Probably turns to drink or something.

[57:54] Can't live with himself at that point.

Elliott Kalan

[57:56] Yeah, and then he falls in love with a robot,

[57:58] as in Paul Schrader's masterpiece.

Hallie Haglund

[57:59] And Prince of Tides is all just a memory of this.

Elliott Kalan

[58:04] Now, wait,

[58:05] so what would it be,

[58:05] if every Nick Nolte movie was the same character?

[58:08] So like then Prince of Tides comes before,

[58:09] after this one.

Dan McCoy

[58:11] That guy's having some mood swings.

Hallie Haglund

[58:13] Oh, yeah.

[58:14] I mean, I feel like every Nick Nolte

[58:16] is just Nick Nolte.

Elliott Kalan

[58:18] Yeah, that's fair.

[58:19] It's all the same guy.

[58:20] Yeah.

[58:21] Well, I'm glad we could enjoy

[58:23] our Halloween,

[58:24] our Halloween post-Halloween discussion

[58:26] and celebration.

[58:28] To wrap things up,

[58:29] just to remind you,

[58:30] Karate Kid,

[58:31] surprisingly high marks for the shower.

[58:33] Tequila Mockingbird,

[58:34] surprisingly mixed results for the ham.

[58:36] Meet Me in St. Louis,

[58:38] not a big fan,

[58:39] mostly of the girls' costumes.

[58:41] Jerr number two,

[58:42] a costume that was pretty roundly criticized.

[58:44] E.T.,

[58:45] mixed.

[58:46] Mean Girls,

[58:47] mixed.

[58:48] Donnie Darko,

[58:49] unimpressed.

[58:50] Perfect World,

[58:51] unsure,

[58:52] and Affliction,

[58:53] probably the highest to lowest swing

[58:55] that we've had.

[58:56] Zero on one side,

[58:57] ten on the other.

[58:58] Wow.

[58:59] It just doesn't get more exciting than this.

[59:01] I want to thank Dan,

[59:02] Seward,

[59:03] and Hallie

[59:03] for being with me

[59:04] on this post-Halloween trip

[59:06] through Halloween movies.

[59:08] I'd like to thank you,

[59:09] the listener.

[59:09] If you're still here,

[59:10] you may not be.

[59:11] And I want to thank

[59:12] our producer,

[59:13] Alex Smith,

[59:14] who has,

[59:15] he's the only person I know

[59:16] who is definitely going to have listened

[59:17] to the whole thing

[59:17] all the way through.

[59:19] Alex Smith,

[59:19] take a look for his own comedy

[59:21] and musical work online.

[59:22] He goes,

[59:22] performs,

[59:23] and puts it out

[59:24] under the name Howell Doughty.

[59:25] His stuff is hilarious

[59:26] and he's incredibly talented.

[59:27] And I'd like to thank

[59:28] the Maximum Fun Network

[59:29] for continuing

[59:30] to allow us

[59:31] to be a member of it.

[59:32] If you liked this podcast,

[59:33] why not go to

[59:34] MaximumFun.org

[59:35] and check out

[59:36] some of the other shows there.

[59:37] There's a lot of funny ones.

[59:38] There's some that'll touch your heart,

[59:39] some that'll touch your brain,

[59:41] and some that'll touch you

[59:41] in ways that

[59:42] you're not comfortable with now.

[59:44] But when you're older,

[59:44] you realize you learned

[59:45] something very valuable.

[59:46] What?

[59:49] Not everything needs to be said.

[59:51] Yeah, you're right, dude.

[59:52] It's true.

[59:53] Not every thought

[59:55] needs to be said.

[59:56] For the Flophouse,

[59:57] we'll be back next week

[59:58] as we start Movember,

[1:00:00] our November

[1:00:01] of all full-length episodes

[1:00:02] with lots of exciting guests.

[1:00:04] Can't wait for it.

[1:00:06] Until then, though,

[1:00:06] I've been joined

[1:00:07] by the star of the show

[1:00:08] and my co-hosts,

[1:00:09] and they are...

[1:00:11] Hallie Haglund.

Stuart Wellington

[1:00:12] Dan McCoy.

[1:00:13] And little Stewie Wellington.

Elliott Kalan

[1:00:16] Goodbye, everybody.

[1:00:17] Or should I say,

[1:00:18] good boo?

[1:00:19] You shouldn't.

[1:00:20] No.

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FH Mini 140 - Halloween Costumes on Film, with Hallie Haglund

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