FH Mini 155 - Summer-y Judgments

[0:00] Hello, everybody. Welcome to another Flophouse Mini.

Elliott Kalan

[0:09] My name is Elliot Kalin. I'm joined today by Dan McCoy and Stuart Wellington.

[0:12] Hey, what's up? What's up?

[0:15] Dan, do you want to say what's up?

[0:17] What's up?

[0:19] They did it. Now, you know, all of us can say what's up.

[0:21] As the undertones once sang, the summer's really here and it's time to come out.

[0:25] Time to discover what fun is about.

[0:27] This episode is coming out in August of 2026, right?

[0:30] It's summer, guys. We're solidly in the summer.

[0:33] So I thought, let's talk a little bit about summer.

[0:36] Not Mark Summers, former host of Nickelodeon's Double Dare.

[0:39] That's not who I'm talking about.

[0:40] But summer, the season.

[0:43] First off, before we talk about movies, what are your associations, you guys, with the summer?

[0:47] When you think summer, what do you think?

[0:50] And not ancient Sumeria. Summer, the season.

Dan McCoy

[0:54] I have strong associations from childhood with doing my favorite thing to do during the summer,

[0:59] which is to sit inside where it's air-conditioned and read and watch television for hours on end.

[1:08] A classic indoor kid, yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[1:11] Go to the, I remember going to the pool that my parents were members at.

[1:16] Sure.

[1:16] Going to, like, day camps and spending time outside.

[1:22] Doing sports.

[1:24] And yard chores.

[1:26] Stuart, I'm going to ask.

Elliott Kalan

[1:26] The yard chores are the ultimate sport, yeah.

[1:28] Everybody wins.

[1:29] They get a clean yard.

Dan McCoy

[1:31] I'll ask in a second about your summer vacations.

[1:34] But my own, we're very Midwestern, which is why I'm curious about yours.

[1:38] Like, it was not, you know, we're not going to fly anywhere fun or anything like that.

[1:42] We would pile in the car.

Elliott Kalan

[1:44] What's the nearest beet farm?

Dan McCoy

[1:46] Let's go there.

[1:47] In my family, we would drive to the upper peninsula of Minnesota,

[1:52] where my dad liked to go to a cabin and fish on a lake.

[1:57] And I'm not saying I didn't enjoy being on a lake and swimming in the lake.

[2:01] And I didn't love being in a cabin, because, again, I was an indoor kid who liked comfort.

[2:05] But the swimming stuff was fun.

Stuart Wellington

[2:06] Unlike modern Dan, who's kind of a rough and tough as nails guy.

[2:09] Yeah, real Bear Grylls type character, yeah.

Dan McCoy

[2:12] But I really, to this day, I hate road trips,

[2:16] because I remember being so bored in the car as a kid.

Stuart Wellington

[2:18] You didn't, like, read in the car?

[2:20] I did.

Dan McCoy

[2:21] I did not have trouble with motion sickness.

[2:26] Yeah, for the most part.

[2:27] I read and I enjoyed that part of it.

[2:29] But I would still get very antsy.

Stuart Wellington

[2:31] Yeah, I'd, like, crack the spine on some, like, Roald Dahl book.

[2:35] I'm sure I tore through.

[2:37] Tore right through that sucker.

[2:39] So, yeah, I mean, most of my...

[2:43] So, Daddy Wellington would, he was not very big on spending money on things.

[2:50] Classic dad.

[2:51] So, we did not have, if we, like, went away, it would either be to go visit family who did not live on lakes,

[2:58] or we would be going to, like, soccer tournaments.

Elliott Kalan

[3:01] The only lakes you had as a kid was Land O'Lakes Butter.

Stuart Wellington

[3:04] That's true.

[3:05] No, well, I had a neighbor who had a lake cottage, and sometimes I would get to go up and spend time with him at theirs.

[3:11] But my family did not have a tradition of going anywhere nice for ourselves, because we don't deserve it.

[3:20] But a lot of my travel, especially as I was a young teenager, was going to soccer tournaments with a bunch of all my other soccer boys.

Elliott Kalan

[3:29] Ah.

[3:29] Yeah, and my summers were...

[3:31] Growing up on the East Coast, it's a very, especially Jewish, it's a very summer camp, sleepaway camp thing.

[3:37] Yeah.

[3:38] We would do driving trips sometimes, but they would just shuffle us off for four to eight weeks or three to six weeks of summer camp.

[3:46] Wow.

[3:47] And every now and then, I would run away, get kicked out, you know, the different ways of leaving early.

Dan McCoy

[3:52] I've heard these tales, but that's a long time to be at a camp.

[3:56] Like, I would go to a church camp, which was just normal camp, but sometimes there was Bible verses.

[4:02] And that was like one or two weeks of camp.

[4:06] Oh, wow.

Elliott Kalan

[4:06] Yeah, the first time I ever went to summer camp...

[4:08] The first time I ever went to summer camp, this camp I went to, you could choose between a four-week session or an eight-week session.

[4:17] So, the first time I was away from home, it was for a month.

[4:20] And I really liked it that first year, but there were things in other years.

[4:24] But anyway, I ask because, again, it's the summer.

[4:28] But, of course, on this podcast, we don't usually talk about our summertime memories or the summertime blues, which sounds like Dan had quite a bit of when he was a kid.

[4:35] We talk about movies.

[4:36] Usually, we watch a movie and then we talk about it.

[4:39] This time, I want to talk about summer movies.

[4:41] What movies are about summer and whether they reflect our summer experiences?

[4:46] Not summer blockbusters.

[4:48] I feel like there's two different kinds of summer movies.

[4:51] We've mined that territory.

[4:53] Exactly.

[4:53] We've talked about the summer blockbusters.

[4:55] Your Jaws's.

[4:57] Your Armageddon's.

[4:58] ID 4s.

[4:59] Your UnGolden Pond.

[5:00] Yeah, your ID 4s.

[5:02] UnGolden Pond.

[5:03] The scene at the end where they realize that the pond is golden because...

[5:06] Because the local sewage lines have been pouring into it.

[5:10] It really hurts that movie in a big way.

[5:12] Yeah, yeah.

[5:14] And so, I want to talk about movies about the summer.

[5:16] We're going to look at a few.

[5:17] I'm going to look at a few.

[5:18] By that, I just mean I'm going to mention them.

[5:20] And I want you to tell me, have you seen this summer movie?

[5:23] If it represents the kinds of summers you're familiar with.

[5:27] And if it isn't, if you'd want your summer to go that way.

[5:31] Is this a fantasy of a summer you wish you could have had?

[5:34] And if we have time, there might be more for us to do.

[5:36] But let's take a look.

[5:37] I think the...

[5:39] I received a number of emails about how long our Gem and the Holograms episode ran.

[5:43] And so...

[5:44] And they're like, do more, please.

[5:46] They're like, more of that, please.

[5:48] So, we'll see how long this one goes.

[5:50] And no, Dan, I actually haven't received any emails about it.

Dan McCoy

[5:52] So, don't worry.

[5:53] I've heard only positive things.

[5:55] Probably because the only people who listen to it are weirdos like me.

Elliott Kalan

[6:01] There's a reason...

[6:02] Every now and then, I'm glad that our podcast is not distributed in syndication on public radio.

[6:08] And I think that was not one of them.

[6:10] I really wish more people could learn about that.

[6:12] Yeah.

[6:12] Learn about Gem and the Holograms.

[6:14] So, let's take a look.

[6:16] Let's talk about summer movies.

[6:17] And again, the questions are, have you seen this movie?

[6:20] Okay.

[6:20] Can you...

[6:21] Does it relate to your idea of summer?

[6:23] Would you want your summer to go that way?

[6:25] And the first of these movies, of course...

[6:27] Actually, I'm going to ask you.

[6:28] When you think of movies about summer,

[6:31] what is the first movie that comes into your mind?

Stuart Wellington

[6:34] One Crazy Summer.

[6:35] Stand By Me.

Elliott Kalan

[6:37] Okay.

[6:37] Well, Stand By Me would be a good one to talk about.

[6:39] We're only talking about movies with summer in the title, unfortunately.

[6:41] Okay.

[6:42] But One Crazy Summer.

[6:43] I missed that part.

[6:44] Let's start with One Crazy Summer because that's on my list.

[6:47] I have never seen One Crazy Summer.

[6:50] Whoa.

[6:50] Have you seen this movie?

[6:51] Yes.

[6:52] Is it crazy?

[6:53] Does it feel...

[6:53] What's this movie about?

[6:54] What goes on in it?

[6:55] You know?

Dan McCoy

[6:56] This is...

[6:57] It's a...

[6:59] You know,

[7:00] It's another Savage Steve Holland movie.

Elliott Kalan

[7:02] It's the one of his that I haven't seen because I've seen Better Off Dead and...

[7:06] It follows Better Off Dead.

[7:07] And how I got into college.

[7:08] Yeah, yeah.

[7:08] And of course, I was a big viewer of Eek the Cat when it was on TV.

[7:11] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[7:12] I don't believe that...

[7:13] There's no like...

[7:14] You know, there's no continuity.

[7:17] They're just similar styles.

[7:18] Yeah.

[7:19] But they're very similar styles.

[7:20] Like this is, you know, in the same vein as Better Off Dead.

[7:24] Just like wacky stuff happening.

[7:28] John and Keith's accident.

[7:29] There'll be animated stuff for no particular reason.

[7:33] Uh-huh.

Elliott Kalan

[7:34] You know, they go to the...

[7:35] That's art, dude.

[7:36] Taylor Negron shows up in it, right?

[7:38] I see him in the cast list.

[7:39] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[7:40] It's a...

[7:40] You know, they go to the beach for the summer is essentially the plot of that movie.

[7:47] Along the way, he picks up a hitchhiker played by Demi Moore.

[7:52] And there's some romance.

[7:54] Uh-huh.

[7:54] I believe he's also getting over a breakup in this picture as he was in Better Off Dead.

[8:00] And by him, I mean John Cusack.

Stuart Wellington

[8:01] John Cusack really had a lockdown on like lovelorn fools.

[8:05] Uh-huh.

Dan McCoy

[8:06] And there's like, you know, there are a lot of zany like subplots that string through the movie.

[8:11] Like there's a character who's trying to win a radio contest, be the first caller.

[8:17] Oh, I was about to say, you could just buy a radio.

[8:19] There's a bit with like Godzilla costumes.

[8:21] Yeah.

[8:22] Yeah.

[8:22] At one point, Bobcat Goldthwait gets stuck inside a Godzilla costume and rampages through some sandcastles.

Elliott Kalan

[8:30] Okay.

[8:31] So is this what your experience of summer was like?

[8:34] Yeah.

[8:34] Getting stuck in a Godzilla costume and rampaging the sandcastles, trying to win radio contests,

[8:38] trying to get over lost loves with the help of Demi Moore?

Dan McCoy

[8:42] Other than like when I was like two, I think, and my parents went to California.

Stuart Wellington

[8:49] You got stuck in a Godzilla costume?

[8:51] Yeah.

[8:51] When he was two years old, he and Demi Moore had a thing.

[8:54] No, like when I was too young to really remember it.

Elliott Kalan

[8:57] There was that period where she was into younger guys, you know.

Dan McCoy

[9:00] My parents went to California with the family when I was too young to really remember it.

[9:04] There was a Disneyland trip.

[9:05] There was the beach.

[9:07] I have only the most fleeting memories of these things.

Elliott Kalan

[9:10] That must hurt so bad to know that you don't remember your trip to Disneyland.

Dan McCoy

[9:13] It did.

[9:14] And I wanted to go back for years.

[9:16] I finally like-

[9:18] Your parents were like, we've been there, we've been there.

[9:19] We've been there.

Dan McCoy

[9:19] We've been there.

[9:19] 20 years ago, I went to Disneyland.

[9:22] But I really don't think that I went to the beach again until I was like a teenager.

[9:30] So this was not my experience of what the summers were.

Elliott Kalan

[9:34] And Stuart, you already said your summers were not spent hanging out at the beach.

Stuart Wellington

[9:37] No, I mean, this is that type of like, this is the type of movie, this is a movie I saw

[9:43] when I was younger than, you know, John Cusack's character is supposed to be in it.

[9:48] So it was that like, oh, this is what being a high school kid is going to be like.

[9:53] This is what being a teenager is going to be like.

[9:55] And of course, that's not what it was like, but for me at least.

[9:58] But, you know, John Hughes movies had lied to me as well.

[10:02] So I was well, I was used to it.

Elliott Kalan

[10:03] You're used to being lied to about what it's like to be a teenager.

[10:05] Whereas I was mostly lied to by Saved by the Bell about what it was like to be a teenager

[10:09] that you just walk into the principal's office all the time.

[10:12] You didn't really have to go to class that much.

[10:13] Your school would only have like six students with names

[10:16] and everybody else was just kind of NPCs wandering around

[10:19] and bumping into walls and things like that.

[10:22] The school would be attached to a diner of some kind

[10:25] where you could just go whenever you wanted.

[10:28] So that's One Crazy Summer.

[10:29] So would you like your summer to be like that?

[10:31] Would you like to have a crazy summer?

Dan McCoy

[10:33] Just listen to the title.

[10:35] One Crazy Summer.

[10:36] Doesn't that sound fun?

Elliott Kalan

[10:37] I mean, that could easily be the title of something

[10:39] where a madman is on the loose with a knife on the beach.

Dan McCoy

[10:43] I guess so.

[10:44] I think that's one bloody summer.

[10:46] That's true.

Elliott Kalan

[10:46] And I think also that it's limited.

[10:48] You know this is just one crazy summer.

[10:50] Not every summer is going to be like this.

[10:52] This isn't your whole existence.

Stuart Wellington

[10:53] The thing is it makes it all the sweeter knowing that it's limited.

Elliott Kalan

[10:57] Exactly.

[10:57] Just like life, you know.

[10:59] Just like life.

[11:00] Well, let's – okay.

[11:01] So One Crazy Summer, not representative,

[11:03] but you would want to have that as your summer.

[11:04] Yeah.

[11:05] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[11:05] Elliot, now that I know the rules,

[11:07] I have an answer for your initial question.

Elliott Kalan

[11:09] Oh, shit.

[11:10] Okay.

[11:10] That has to have the summer in the title.

[11:12] I know what he's going to say.

[11:13] Summer School.

[11:14] I knew exactly what he was going to say.

[11:15] That was the other one I assumed you were going to say.

[11:17] That was the number –

[11:18] that was the first one written on my list was Summer School

[11:20] because I figured that would be what –

[11:22] so again, Summer School from 1987.

[11:25] Guys forced to teach Summer School.

[11:28] Now –

[11:28] It is a movie that's mainly montages.

[11:30] Yes.

[11:31] Like Rocky IV.

[11:32] It is very montage-heavy.

Dan McCoy

[11:33] It is carried on a wave of just like lighthearted charm.

[11:38] Not a lot of incident or death, but –

Elliott Kalan

[11:41] Well, what they call Charmin, which is the charm of Mark Harmon.

[11:44] Yeah.

[11:45] Yeah.

[11:45] So guys, one –

[11:46] so you've seen Summer School, right?

[11:48] You've seen it before.

[11:48] So many times.

[11:49] Yeah.

[11:50] So is it representative of your summer?

[11:51] Did you ever have to go to Summer School?

Stuart Wellington

[11:55] I never went to Summer School.

[11:56] I definitely had to go to Summer School,

[11:58] but it wasn't like that.

[11:59] No.

[12:00] It wasn't that fun and cool.

[12:01] You didn't meet Chainsaw there?

[12:02] No.

[12:02] I didn't meet Chainsaw.

[12:03] I didn't meet a guy who was moonlighting as a stripper.

[12:06] Yeah.

[12:07] There wasn't a narcoleptic kid, you know.

[12:09] Now is this –

[12:10] It was the same kid.

[12:11] I'm talking about the same guy.

Elliott Kalan

[12:12] This is like a high school, right?

[12:14] Yeah.

[12:14] So that one of them is a stripper is weird, right?

Stuart Wellington

[12:17] I mean, he's got to be 18, right?

Elliott Kalan

[12:19] I guess, but even so, that seems –

[12:21] You would hope.

[12:22] Yeah.

[12:22] I certainly hope so.

[12:23] I hope that the strip club that he's at is checking his ID

[12:26] to make sure that he's a legal age to work.

[12:28] Yeah.

[12:28] All male review, yeah.

[12:29] Yeah.

[12:30] So I have never been to summer school.

[12:32] The closest that I ever was was when I worked for the Board of Education for a summer,

[12:36] just helping around in their office because even when I was young,

[12:39] I was ready to get into the working world and become the workaholic that I am today.

Dan McCoy

[12:44] Is this –

[12:44] When I was in college, I took a May term.

[12:46] I took a May term.

Elliott Kalan

[12:47] What is a May term?

[12:48] Tell me what that is.

Dan McCoy

[12:49] You had the option to take one extra month of school where you were focused on a particular class.

[12:55] To what?

[12:56] To get into the WSB education program or something?

[12:57] I was like, give me more school, please.

[12:59] That's the nerd.

Stuart Wellington

[13:00] What was your – which May term did you take?

Dan McCoy

[13:03] It was a film class.

Stuart Wellington

[13:04] Oh, I did an art class May term.

[13:07] It was awesome.

[13:08] It was like a month of like getting hammered.

[13:10] Yeah, let's hang out on campus longer.

[13:12] I didn't want to go home.

Elliott Kalan

[13:13] Yeah, I didn't have anything like that.

[13:14] Instead, I merely doubled up on classes so I could get out early.

[13:19] Then I would have taken advantage of that and then I worked during the summer because, again, workaholic.

[13:22] I got to get – take jobs.

Dan McCoy

[13:23] I think that people – I mean like I've heard this from Audrey as well.

[13:26] People who go to like school in the city have such a different experience of college.

[13:31] Yes.

[13:32] For me, I was like this is the most fun – like this is the most fun thing.

[13:35] Like I'm away from home.

[13:36] I am – you know, like there's not anything interesting going on outside of campus.

[13:40] Like I just want to be on campus where all my friends are mostly unsupervised, like having parties and hanging out.

Elliott Kalan

[13:47] Going to a traditional liberal arts college is probably the best training for living in a sort of George Romero living dead dystopia.

[13:55] Sure.

[13:55] Where you're just in kind of like a walled compound that you don't leave and you're just hanging out there doing all your stuff.

[14:01] Because going to a school in the city, certainly at NYU, there was no campus really at the time.

[14:05] And the student center had been torn down when I was a freshman and would not be finished being built.

[14:09] By Timothee Chalamet, right?

[14:10] Yes, by Timothee – yeah, yeah, exactly.

[14:12] Because they told him not to take a bath, but he filled up the bathtub anyway.

[14:16] And the bathtub just went straight to the floor.

Dan McCoy

[14:16] Too much ballet and opera happening.

[14:18] Yeah.

[14:18] And he said, not on my watch.

Elliott Kalan

[14:20] And so it really did feel like I live in New York and my day job is I go to college.

[14:25] Like there was not much – not the same kind of student life.

[14:28] I bet if I had looked for it, I would have found it, but I didn't look for it.

[14:31] Instead, I was enjoying the same.

Stuart Wellington

[14:31] And you were walking around with your like little man briefcase and everything.

[14:34] Exactly, yeah.

[14:35] And you're like, I'm a grown-up.

[14:35] You don't need to belittle them like that.

Elliott Kalan

[14:37] No, but I mean I feel like that's the thing.

[14:39] No, it was a little man tape branded briefcase.

Stuart Wellington

[14:41] Oh, okay.

[14:42] I got you.

[14:43] It was just accurate.

[14:44] Yeah.

[14:44] And I traded in for one branded from the movie Little Man.

[14:47] Yeah, yeah.

[14:47] College kids' brains aren't fully –

[14:48] Little Big Man?

[14:49] No, not Little Big Man.

[14:50] I didn't want that big a briefcase.

[14:52] Like college kids' brains haven't fully developed.

[14:54] Like you're still getting wrinkles in there, you know?

[14:56] You're not a real – you're not a real –

[14:57] Like Little Big Man.

[14:58] Yeah.

[14:59] It's so many wrinkles.

Elliott Kalan

[15:00] He has so many wrinkles when he's old, yeah.

[15:03] Yeah.

[15:04] So summer school, is that how you would want your summer to go?

[15:07] You're with all these, you know, goofy characters.

[15:10] They are pretty fun.

[15:11] You're being taught by Mark Harmon.

[15:12] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[15:12] I don't like the school part of it.

[15:14] I do like the freedom of the summer.

[15:17] But these are some pretty great –

[15:19] It's near the beach, right?

[15:21] I think so, yeah.

[15:22] Friends.

Elliott Kalan

[15:23] And I forget – there's a dog on the poster.

[15:25] I forgot.

[15:25] Is there a dog in the movie too?

[15:26] He's got a dog, yeah.

Dan McCoy

[15:27] You get to hang out with Courtney Thorne Smith.

[15:29] And Dean Cameron.

[15:31] Yeah.

[15:32] Dean Cameron, like –

[15:34] Dean Cameron's pretty cool.

[15:35] I'd do it for a summer.

[15:36] Yeah.

[15:37] Yeah, like a summer.

[15:38] Just for one summer.

Elliott Kalan

[15:39] Character dog, yeah.

[15:40] Just one crazy summer school.

[15:42] Come on, you could do it.

[15:43] Yeah.

[15:43] Now, would you rather be in the one crazy summer summer

[15:45] or the summer school summer?

Dan McCoy

[15:47] I think still one crazy summer.

[15:49] And I think I would get too antsy in class all day.

[15:53] Yeah, I think you're right.

Elliott Kalan

[15:55] All right.

[15:55] Moving on to another summer movie.

[15:57] This one, strangely enough,

[15:58] is probably, of all the ones we're going to talk about today,

[16:00] the most representative of my summers growing up.

[16:04] And that is Wet Hot American Summer.

[16:06] Oh, I thought it was going to be Summer of Sam.

[16:09] Well, stay tuned, stay tuned.

[16:10] But yeah, Wet Hot American Summer,

[16:12] which I'm sure you guys have both seen probably, right?

[16:14] Sure.

[16:15] The original movie.

[16:15] Plenty of times.

[16:16] Yeah, plenty of times from 2001,

[16:19] featuring many members of the state.

[16:21] But not all of them.

Dan McCoy

[16:21] Stuart's offensive Irish character, plenty of times.

Stuart Wellington

[16:24] Oh, I've seen that Wet Hot American Summer.

[16:28] Many of me's.

Elliott Kalan

[16:29] This is Stuart's character who's always late to everything.

[16:31] Oh, I could get there.

[16:33] I could get there.

[16:33] I don't have to leave yet.

[16:34] I got plenty of time.

[16:36] Yeah.

[16:37] Plenty of time.

[16:38] The movie is supposed to start at six o'clock.

[16:40] I don't have to leave till 5.55.

Stuart Wellington

[16:43] Oh, wow.

[16:45] There's a boatload of trailers before the thing

[16:48] and ads for GMC trucks.

Elliott Kalan

[16:51] I don't need to sit through Nicole Kidman

[16:53] telling me about the movies one more time.

[16:55] I'm already going to the movies.

[16:57] I figure I could leave when the movie announced is starting

[16:59] and I'll get there right as the movie itself starts.

Stuart Wellington

[17:02] We're going to get so many angry letters.

[17:05] So many angry letters.

[17:06] Just mean depiction, yeah.

[17:07] Yeah, mean.

Elliott Kalan

[17:10] It reminds me of a...

[17:11] Unblattering depiction.

[17:12] When I was doing the Who Was podcast,

[17:15] the Who Was show podcast,

[17:17] which was a quiz show,

[17:19] we were always talking about which people to do

[17:21] and one of the people that we covered was Ernest Shackleton,

[17:23] who, of course, was Irish.

[17:25] And they were like,

[17:26] well, who should we have to play him?

[17:27] And I was like, I'll just do it.

[17:28] Oh, me boat.

[17:29] Oh, no.

[17:30] Oh, me boat's stuck in the ice.

[17:31] Oh, no.

[17:32] And they were like, please don't do that ever again.

[17:35] Killian Murphy will come and kill you.

[17:37] He'd be so mad.

[17:38] He's like, now you know what I mean.

[17:39] They call me Killian.

[17:41] So, Wet Hot American Summer, you guys have seen it.

[17:43] Yeah.

[17:44] This, I feel like,

[17:45] this is so clearly a bunch of people

[17:47] who have been to an East Coast summer camp

[17:49] because there's so much stuff that's specific

[17:51] to what it's like to go to one of those camps.

[17:53] Did you guys feel at all,

[17:55] at all, could you relate to it at all?

[17:57] Since I don't think you guys had that experience,

[17:59] you know.

Dan McCoy

[18:00] Well, I mean,

[18:01] the camps that I went to,

[18:02] I mean,

[18:03] I think it was just the one church camp,

[18:05] was not so oriented toward that many activities.

[18:11] Like,

[18:12] like camps I always see in movies

[18:14] where it's like,

[18:14] okay,

[18:15] now it's,

[18:15] it's the day that we all go boating.

[18:17] And like,

[18:17] now's the day that like,

[18:19] we're playing our,

[18:20] like,

[18:21] baseball game.

[18:22] Bug juice or whatever.

[18:23] Yeah, whatever.

[18:23] I mean,

Elliott Kalan

[18:24] I mean,

[18:24] those camps,

[18:24] it's like multiple activities per day.

[18:26] Yeah.

[18:27] You are busy

[18:27] and you're real tired at the end of it.

Stuart Wellington

[18:29] Yeah, yeah.

[18:29] Yeah,

[18:30] you gotta tucker them kids out

[18:31] so they don't get in trouble.

Elliott Kalan

[18:32] You sure got,

[18:32] you gotta tucker and Dale versus evil,

[18:34] those kids,

[18:34] yeah.

Dan McCoy

[18:35] Yeah,

[18:35] I think it was like,

[18:36] structured enough that what we did,

[18:38] but like,

[18:38] it was structured with it,

[18:39] like,

[18:40] but within that structure,

[18:41] it was a lot of like,

[18:42] yeah,

[18:42] just,

[18:43] you know,

[18:44] do what you want.

[18:45] Just hang out in the woods.

Elliott Kalan

[18:47] See,

[18:47] I wonder if,

[18:48] because the East Coast camps

[18:49] are really based around this tradition of like,

[18:52] kids from the cities

[18:53] need a place to go

[18:54] in the summer

[18:55] and experience the outdoors.

[18:56] So it really does feel still,

[18:58] it's like,

[18:58] we gotta pack in all the outdoor stuff

[19:00] that you would normally have in a year

[19:02] if you didn't live in the city

[19:03] into,

[19:04] you know,

[19:04] a month or something like that

[19:05] or two months,

[19:06] you know.

[19:07] But Stuart,

[19:08] what about you?

[19:08] You said you traveled to a lot of soccer games.

[19:10] Yeah,

[19:10] so,

Stuart Wellington

[19:11] well,

[19:12] my wife went to a East Coast Jewish summer camp,

[19:16] so she has a very,

[19:16] an East Coast Jew,

[19:17] like me,

[19:17] yeah.

[19:18] had a very,

[19:19] you know,

[19:19] that was a very important part of her life

[19:21] and still informs a lot of her life to this day.

[19:25] But I,

[19:26] I went to soccer camp,

[19:27] which would be like a two-week thing

[19:29] where it would be like,

[19:30] the activities you're doing,

[19:32] it's more soccer.

[19:34] Let me look at the schedule for today.

[19:37] Soccer,

[19:37] soccer,

[19:38] soccer,

[19:39] and we would,

[19:39] we would stay in like,

[19:41] hitting a ball with your head.

[19:42] Oh,

[19:42] okay.

[19:43] We'd stay in like,

[19:44] empty summertime college dorms.

[19:47] Uh-huh.

Elliott Kalan

[19:48] Ain't no cure for a summertime college dorm.

Stuart Wellington

[19:51] But when I actually saw Wet Hot American Summer,

[19:54] I was living in Pennsylvania,

[19:56] and my girlfriend at the time

[19:57] was working as,

[20:00] like,

[20:01] a camp director

[20:02] or assistant camp director

[20:03] at a,

[20:04] like,

[20:05] an East Coast camp.

[20:06] This one was,

[20:06] this one was a Quaker camp,

[20:08] I believe.

[20:10] So I,

[20:11] when I would go to visit her

[20:12] and I would see the camp,

[20:13] I was seeing the movie

[20:15] roughly around the same time.

[20:16] I was like,

[20:17] ah,

[20:17] this all makes sense.

[20:18] Uh-huh.

Elliott Kalan

[20:19] And so I have a question for you.

[20:21] The camps that you went to,

[20:23] Dan,

[20:23] did they ever have like color war?

[20:24] That's a huge thing

[20:25] in the East Coast camps

[20:26] when you do color war.

[20:27] No.

[20:28] I don't even know what that is.

[20:29] The whole camp is split up

[20:30] into two sides

[20:31] where you're represented

[20:32] by a different color,

[20:33] and it's just,

[20:34] for like,

[20:34] two or three days,

[20:36] it's just competitive,

[20:37] uh,

[20:38] challenges between these two teams

[20:40] and everybody,

[20:41] everyone in the camp

[20:42] gets really into like

[20:42] being on a side.

[20:43] It's such a,

[20:44] it's such an easy

[20:45] sociological experiment.

[20:46] It's to teach you to hate.

[20:47] Yeah,

[20:47] basically.

[20:48] They're like,

[20:48] you're red,

[20:49] you're blue.

[20:50] And it's like,

[20:50] oh,

[20:50] we hate you so much now.

[20:52] Yeah,

[20:52] exactly.

[20:53] Um,

[20:54] but they didn't have that.

[20:55] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[20:56] No,

[20:57] no.

[20:57] I would have gotten

[20:58] super into it though,

[20:59] I bet.

[21:00] Oh,

[21:00] for sure.

[21:01] Yeah.

[21:01] You're really competitive

[21:02] in those kind of environments.

[21:03] You would have been

Elliott Kalan

[21:03] baying for blood.

[21:04] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[21:04] My main,

[21:06] uh,

[21:06] the main appeal of camp

[21:07] to me was like,

[21:08] it was like,

[21:09] I don't know,

[21:09] maybe a girl will kiss me.

[21:11] Like,

[21:12] maybe that'll happen.

[21:13] Did it ever happen?

[21:14] No,

[21:15] but I got to hang out

[21:16] with a lot more

[21:16] girls in a way

[21:18] where like,

[21:19] years of,

[21:20] uh,

[21:20] lack of social capital

[21:22] wasn't hindering me.

Elliott Kalan

[21:24] Well,

[21:25] and also,

[21:25] you grew up in a town

[21:26] with very few girls.

[21:27] I mean,

[21:27] it was known as the

[21:28] testosterone capital

[21:29] of America.

[21:30] Yeah,

[21:30] yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[21:30] I remember you talking

[21:31] about how your mom

[21:32] had to be hidden away

[21:33] at times because girls

[21:34] were not allowed

[21:34] into the town

[21:35] after sundown.

[21:36] And so,

[21:37] yeah.

Dan McCoy

[21:38] I don't even understand

[21:39] this bit,

[21:39] but.

Elliott Kalan

[21:40] No,

[21:40] I don't get it either.

[21:41] Um,

[21:41] but I,

[21:42] so,

[21:42] I was just curious

[21:43] about that.

[21:43] Anyway,

[21:44] so,

[21:44] moving on

[21:45] to the next movie.

[21:46] It's interesting.

[21:46] Kelly,

[21:47] were you super

[21:47] into the color war?

[21:49] I,

[21:49] I think we,

[21:50] everybody would get

[21:50] into color war.

[21:51] That was,

[21:51] there was something

[21:52] about being on a side

[21:53] and being,

[21:54] it was like,

[21:54] oh,

[21:54] I have acceptance

[21:55] for three days

[21:56] because everyone

[21:56] knows I'm part of this.

[21:57] And especially once

[21:58] I went,

[21:59] the camp I went to last,

[22:01] um,

[22:01] I could do,

[22:02] there was like a,

[22:03] um,

[22:04] there was like a

[22:04] storytelling competition

[22:06] one time.

[22:07] And it was like,

[22:08] oh,

[22:08] I can do this.

[22:09] And I blew people

[22:09] away with that.

[22:10] Like,

[22:10] that was the one time

[22:11] I was in like a

[22:11] camp competitive activity

[22:13] where I defeated,

[22:15] like just dominated

[22:16] the other side.

Stuart Wellington

[22:17] You know?

[22:17] Not,

[22:17] not just wrestling.

[22:18] It was that too.

Elliott Kalan

[22:19] Yeah,

[22:20] yeah.

[22:20] I mean,

[22:20] also,

[22:20] I mean,

[22:20] also we did a lot

[22:21] of like,

[22:22] that kind of like

[22:22] greased up oil wrestling

[22:24] they do in kind of

[22:25] like turkey or grease.

[22:26] Yeah,

[22:26] yeah.

[22:27] We would do a lot

[22:27] of that.

[22:27] And there I would

[22:28] just dominate also

[22:29] because people

[22:30] would look at me

[22:30] and they go,

[22:30] oh,

[22:30] he's small.

[22:31] I can take him.

[22:32] But I would actually,

[22:33] you're live.

[22:34] I'm live,

[22:34] but also I could,

[22:35] because I was so greased

[22:35] up,

[22:36] it was easier for me

[22:36] to get inside

[22:37] the other person's body

[22:38] through their mouth

[22:39] or their anus

[22:40] and just start

[22:40] attacking their organs

[22:42] on the inside,

[22:43] which they have

[22:43] no defense for.

[22:44] Yeah,

[22:44] once you're inside somebody,

[22:46] it's very soft in there.

[22:47] It's very soft.

[22:48] They have no defense.

[22:48] And every move you make,

[22:50] every breath you take,

[22:51] you'll be hurting them.

[22:52] There's no,

[22:53] there's,

[22:54] again,

[22:54] all you have to do

[22:55] is flick your fingers

[22:56] and you're going to hit

[22:56] something that hurts.

[22:58] So,

[22:58] yeah,

[22:58] yeah.

[22:58] And my finishing move

[23:00] was always when I would then,

[23:01] I would,

[23:01] I mean,

[23:01] I would cheat a little bit

[23:02] and then I would bring

[23:03] a hand drill with me

[23:04] and my finishing move

[23:05] would be to drill a hole

[23:06] through their chest

[23:07] and then just rip my way out.

[23:08] Oh,

[23:08] I thought you would use

Stuart Wellington

[23:09] like an old timey saw

[23:11] and saw an Elliot shaped hole

[23:13] for you to stop.

[23:14] I mean,

Elliott Kalan

[23:14] if I had the time to do it,

[23:16] but you can only do that once

[23:16] before they start to realize

[23:18] you're going to do that trick.

[23:19] And then they go,

[23:20] hold on,

[23:20] as soon as you start sawing,

[23:21] they pull the saw out

[23:22] so that you can't use it anymore.

[23:24] Yeah,

[23:24] yeah.

[23:24] Yeah,

[23:24] that makes sense.

Stuart Wellington

[23:25] Yeah,

[23:26] so anyway.

[23:26] Decisive.

[23:27] Good counter strategy.

Elliott Kalan

[23:28] Camp memories.

[23:29] So Stuart,

[23:29] it makes sense that you meant,

[23:30] it's helpful that you mentioned

[23:31] Pennsylvania

[23:32] because our next movie

[23:33] is Hotel Transylvania 3,

[23:36] Summer Vacation.

[23:37] Oh,

[23:37] okay.

[23:37] Now this is the movie

[23:38] where they're not at the hotel.

[23:40] Okay.

Dan McCoy

[23:42] Well,

[23:42] I think that one of them

[23:44] feels like a misnomer,

[23:45] right?

[23:45] Like,

[23:46] I haven't seen the sequel.

[23:47] A cruise ship is basically

[23:48] a hotel.

[23:49] Yeah.

[23:49] Okay.

Elliott Kalan

[23:50] But they're not at the Hotel Transylvania,

[23:51] you know.

[23:52] Oh,

[23:52] okay.

[23:53] So have you guys seen,

[23:54] obviously you have,

[23:54] I didn't like uproot

Stuart Wellington

[23:55] from the coast

[23:56] like a,

[23:57] like a Nagaroth-y black arc

[23:59] from the worlds of Warhammer?

Elliott Kalan

[24:01] No,

[24:02] it's just a regular cruise ship.

[24:03] Okay.

[24:03] Yeah,

[24:03] yeah.

Dan McCoy

[24:04] Okay,

[24:04] good enough.

[24:05] I watched the first Hotel Transylvania

[24:07] because I,

[24:07] Not the one we're talking about.

[24:08] I believe it's a

Stuart Wellington

[24:09] Ginny Tarkovsky movie.

[24:11] It is,

[24:12] yes.

[24:12] And you wanted,

[24:13] you wanted to understand

[24:15] the setting of all the fan art

[24:16] you've been,

[24:17] you've been looking at.

Elliott Kalan

[24:19] Enjoying in an adult way.

[24:20] Yeah.

[24:21] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[24:21] Well,

[24:22] it's not,

[24:22] it's not sexy

[24:23] if you don't know

Elliott Kalan

[24:23] the story behind it.

[24:24] It's like,

[24:25] thank you.

[24:25] It's true.

[24:26] Thank you,

[24:26] dude.

[24:27] You need to know,

[24:28] you need to know the context.

[24:32] I mean,

[24:33] that was,

[24:33] that's why when you,

[24:34] when you flip through Playboy,

[24:36] you're like,

[24:36] but where are they from?

[24:37] Are they monsters?

Dan McCoy

[24:39] Are they girls

[24:40] of the Southern Conference

[24:41] or not?

Elliott Kalan

[24:42] Do they work for Target?

[24:43] What's going on?

[24:44] Come on.

[24:46] Anyway,

[24:47] I saw that movie.

[24:48] This was another

[24:49] Genndy Tartakovsky movie.

[24:50] I mean,

[24:50] he did the first three movies.

Dan McCoy

[24:51] I thought that movie was fine,

[24:53] but it did not inspire me

[24:55] to seek out any of the sequels.

[24:57] So I have not seen this one.

[24:59] I haven't seen any of them.

Elliott Kalan

[25:00] You haven't seen any of them.

[25:01] They're fine.

[25:01] They're all right.

[25:02] You know,

[25:03] they're not,

[25:03] they're not bad.

[25:04] I don't,

[25:05] I think there's not,

[25:06] you're not the target audience,

[25:07] Stu,

[25:07] as an adult without children.

[25:09] Yeah.

[25:10] So in this one,

Dan McCoy

[25:10] or a man with a child's mind.

Elliott Kalan

[25:13] Yeah,

[25:13] exactly.

[25:15] So,

[25:15] so let's,

[25:16] so you haven't seen them,

[25:17] but you can imagine

[25:18] it's about monsters

[25:19] on a cruise ship.

[25:21] Does this represent your summers?

[25:22] I know you guys

[25:23] have been on cruises.

[25:24] I know Dan performed

[25:25] in a singing competition

[25:26] on a cruise.

[25:27] I've seen a video.

[25:28] Voice of the ocean over here,

[25:29] yeah.

[25:29] Were there any monsters

[25:30] on the cruise with you?

[25:31] Did you feel like a monster?

[25:32] I mean,

[25:33] I feel like

Dan McCoy

[25:33] you go on a cruise,

[25:35] you're going to meet some monsters.

[25:37] Wow.

Stuart Wellington

[25:39] Yeah,

[25:40] like when,

[25:41] when that recent cruise ship

[25:43] with what,

[25:43] Patti LuPone

[25:44] wouldn't be allowed to dock

[25:45] because of,

[25:46] it was trying to dock in Turkey

[25:48] and they're like,

[25:48] you can't have a gay cruise dock here.

[25:50] What the fuck?

[25:51] That was not okay.

[25:52] I hadn't heard that story,

[25:53] but.

[25:53] Well,

[25:53] there was,

Elliott Kalan

[25:54] the monsters were the people

[25:54] on the shore,

[25:55] not on the ship.

[25:55] that's true.

[25:56] They weren't on the boat.

[25:57] Yeah.

[25:57] It wasn't like the movie

[25:58] The Uninvited

[25:58] with where there's a monster cat

[26:00] on a boat,

[26:01] you know.

[26:01] Yeah.

[26:02] Oh,

[26:02] yeah.

[26:03] Whatever happened to that?

Dan McCoy

[26:05] I think they killed it.

Elliott Kalan

[26:07] Well,

[26:07] let's hope.

[26:08] And this is not the ghost movie

[26:10] with Ray Moland,

[26:10] The Uninvited,

[26:11] which is a much better movie.

[26:12] So,

[26:13] I would tell you.

[26:13] Or Ghost Ship,

Dan McCoy

[26:14] for that matter.

[26:16] It's not Ghost Ship.

[26:17] The movie that is

[26:18] one really good scene.

[26:20] But,

[26:20] yeah.

[26:21] They have a bad,

[26:22] they have one bad night

[26:23] of dancing on that cruise.

Stuart Wellington

[26:24] One really good sequence.

Elliott Kalan

[26:27] Similarly,

[26:28] the one good scene

[26:29] in a,

[26:30] in a,

[26:31] in a,

[26:31] in Jason,

[26:32] I was gonna say

[26:33] Freddy Takes Manhattan.

[26:34] In Jason Takes Manhattan

[26:35] is on a ship

[26:36] on the dance floor.

[26:37] There's a,

[26:37] there's that really good

[26:38] kill on the dance floor.

[26:39] But anyway.

Stuart Wellington

[26:39] Okay,

[26:40] so,

[26:40] what's the deal

[26:41] with this thing?

[26:42] Is it like,

[26:43] just a series of monsters

[26:44] doing things

[26:44] where you're like,

[26:45] oh,

[26:45] wow,

[26:45] yeah,

[26:46] I guess the invisible man

[26:47] would be invisible

[26:47] in this situation.

Elliott Kalan

[26:48] I mean,

[26:49] kind of.

[26:50] And Dracula falls in love

[26:52] with the great-granddaughter

[26:53] of Abraham Van Helsing,

[26:54] his,

[26:54] his arch nemesis.

[26:56] And that's,

Stuart Wellington

[26:56] that's,

[26:56] that's the Sandman,

[26:58] right?

[26:58] Adam Sandler does the voice.

[26:59] That's the Sandman.

Elliott Kalan

[27:00] Adam Sandler is still

[27:00] doing the voice in this one.

[27:01] Still all the same stars.

[27:03] Adam Sandler,

[27:04] Andy Samberg,

[27:05] Selena Gomez,

[27:07] Steve Buscemi,

[27:08] David Spade,

[27:09] Kevin James.

[27:10] And that,

Stuart Wellington

[27:11] and that's much better

[27:12] than getting

[27:13] professional voice actors,

[27:14] right?

Elliott Kalan

[27:15] I mean,

[27:16] they're at least,

[27:16] they're,

[27:17] I mean,

[27:17] eventually that's what

[27:18] they did do.

[27:18] Yeah.

[27:18] Because I think

[27:19] in the fourth one,

[27:20] I think Adam Sandler

[27:21] stops voicing Dracula.

[27:22] You know,

[27:22] I think it's,

Dan McCoy

[27:22] I think it is one of the times

[27:24] that Sandler

[27:25] seems engaged.

Elliott Kalan

[27:27] I mean,

[27:27] also like,

[27:28] Sandler released comedy albums,

[27:29] like he's done comedy voice work,

[27:31] you know,

[27:31] but so he does voices,

[27:33] but so would you guys

[27:34] want to be monsters

[27:35] on a cruise ship

[27:35] or to be on a cruise ship

[27:37] full of monsters?

Stuart Wellington

[27:37] I mean,

[27:37] I've always wanted

[27:38] to be a monster.

[27:39] Like when I was a kid,

[27:39] I would read like

[27:40] stupid little YA books about,

[27:42] since I was a kid,

[27:42] I wanted to be a monster.

[27:47] Ghoul fellas.

[27:50] But no,

[27:51] like I feel like

[27:51] when I was a kid,

[27:52] if there was like,

[27:53] I don't know,

[27:53] like a little kid's book

[27:54] about like,

[27:55] oh no,

[27:55] you're a vampire now,

[27:56] I'd be like,

[27:57] I'm reading a hundred of these.

[27:58] Yeah,

[27:58] you want that.

[27:59] Yeah,

Elliott Kalan

[27:59] yeah.

[28:00] Now imagining in Ghoul fellas

[28:01] about the guy,

[28:02] ever since I was a kid,

[28:02] I wanted to be a monster,

[28:03] that when Joe Pesci's character

[28:05] goes,

[28:05] what am I,

[28:06] a scary clown to you?

Dan McCoy

[28:08] Yeah.

[28:08] Yeah,

[28:08] yeah.

[28:09] Like the clown from It?

[28:10] Like the clown from It?

Elliott Kalan

[28:12] Am I opinion-wise to you?

[28:13] Is this like

[28:14] a house of a thousand corpses

[28:15] or something?

[28:15] You know?

[28:16] Am I some sort of terrifier?

[28:22] So,

[28:22] Dan,

[28:22] would you want to be a monster

[28:23] on a cruise ship?

Dan McCoy

[28:24] Yeah,

[28:25] you know,

[28:25] I was Stuart.

[28:26] I've always wanted to be-

[28:28] Have you ever been on a cruise,

[28:30] Elliot?

Elliott Kalan

[28:30] Yes,

[28:31] I've been on a couple cruises.

[28:32] We went on a couple cruises

[28:33] when I was a teenager.

[28:35] That might have been it.

[28:36] It was on one of those cruises

[28:37] that I bought a piece of art

[28:38] that still hangs in my hallway,

[28:39] which is a reproduction cell

[28:41] from one of the

[28:42] Hunter's Trilogy

[28:43] Chuck Jones cartoons.

[28:44] Oh,

Dan McCoy

[28:44] it's not anthropomorphic,

[28:46] Alves,

[28:46] Blankful.

Elliott Kalan

[28:48] It's not.

[28:49] No,

[28:49] of course,

[28:50] I had my other painting

[28:50] of Humphrey Bogart,

[28:52] James Dean,

[28:52] Elvis,

[28:53] and Marilyn Monroe

[28:53] all sitting around.

[28:55] And Heath Ledger's the Joker.

[28:57] Yeah.

[28:58] I told you guys,

[28:59] I've talked about this

[28:59] on the podcast before,

[29:00] that there's an ice cream place

[29:02] in Sonoma, California.

[29:02] I don't think it's there anymore.

[29:03] Or it's a yogurt place.

[29:04] Maybe it's still there.

[29:05] I haven't been there all the time.

[29:06] Like a Greek yogurt place?

[29:08] No,

[29:08] no,

[29:08] no.

[29:08] Like a frozen yogurt place.

[29:10] Yeah,

[29:10] we would just go in

[29:11] for a big cup of Greek yogurt.

[29:14] It's really good

[29:15] for your gut biome.

[29:16] A frozen yogurt place.

[29:17] And they had those pictures,

[29:18] but it was like

[29:18] 50s vintage style themed.

[29:20] And they had those paintings up.

[29:22] And in one of them,

[29:23] you could see,

[29:23] if you looked at it closely,

[29:24] that Humphrey Bogart

[29:25] was holding a newspaper

[29:25] with the headline

[29:26] about September 11th on it.

[29:28] No.

[29:28] And I was like,

[29:28] wait a minute,

[29:29] what's going on in this picture?

Stuart Wellington

[29:31] Yeah.

[29:32] Well,

[29:32] he came unstuck in times.

Elliott Kalan

[29:34] Yeah,

[29:34] unstuck in times.

[29:35] That's good shit.

[29:35] That must have

Stuart Wellington

[29:36] fucking flipped him out.

Elliott Kalan

[29:38] Yeah,

[29:38] he was.

[29:39] He was like,

[29:39] oh no,

[29:39] it was terrible.

[29:40] So anyway,

[29:41] so we'll all be monsters

[29:42] on cruise ships.

[29:42] I've been on cruise ships.

[29:43] As a kid,

[29:44] I didn't like them.

[29:45] Now I think I might like them

[29:45] a little bit.

[29:46] You know,

[29:46] the same way that

[29:47] I never wanted to go

[29:48] to like an all-inclusive resort.

[29:50] Yeah.

[29:50] But last year,

[29:51] we went to Hawaii.

[29:51] We took the kids

[29:52] to an all-inclusive resort.

[29:53] It was great.

[29:54] It was the perfect place for them.

[29:55] Well,

[29:55] that's the thing.

Dan McCoy

[29:56] Like,

[29:56] I always,

[29:58] you know,

[29:58] I read what?

[29:59] The,

[30:00] the,

[30:00] the.

Elliott Kalan

[30:01] supposedly fun thing

[30:02] I'll never do again.

[30:03] Yeah.

[30:03] David Foster Wallace.

Dan McCoy

[30:04] David Foster Wallace.

[30:05] That's what I was trying to think of.

[30:06] Yeah,

[30:06] I read that essay.

Elliott Kalan

[30:07] David Australian for beer Wallace.

[30:09] Uh-huh.

Dan McCoy

[30:10] And I found it very like,

[30:12] you know,

[30:13] interesting and funny.

[30:14] And like,

[30:14] I always assumed

[30:15] that would be my attitude

[30:16] about being on a cruise.

[30:18] And I've been on two now

[30:20] and I'm like,

[30:21] no,

[30:21] I mean like,

[30:22] I,

[30:23] yeah,

[30:23] there's a lot about this

[30:24] that's tacky

[30:26] and like,

[30:27] obviously it's pitched

[30:28] to the widest,

[30:29] you know,

[30:29] swath of people

[30:30] that it can

[30:31] unless it's,

[30:31] you know,

[30:32] the Joko cruise,

[30:32] which is very specific,

[30:34] which is one of the cruises

[30:34] I was on.

[30:35] But,

[30:35] uh,

[30:36] I,

[30:37] I get why people like

[30:38] are snobby about this.

[30:39] But you also,

[30:40] if you,

[30:40] if you expect that,

[30:42] if you're like,

[30:43] yeah,

[30:44] I'm just going here

[30:45] to like,

[30:46] not fucking think

[30:47] about anything.

[30:48] Yeah.

[30:49] There's a value to that as well.

Elliott Kalan

[30:50] You're on goddamn vacation.

[30:52] Like,

[30:52] come on.

Dan McCoy

[30:53] Fuck you for judging.

Elliott Kalan

[30:55] This is just a place

[30:56] where you sit around

[30:57] and,

[30:57] and stare into space

[30:59] and just shovel food

[31:00] in your gullet.

[31:00] Yeah.

[31:00] It's called

[31:01] leaving the pain of life

[31:03] for just a little bit.

[31:04] And at least

Stuart Wellington

[31:04] the fucking scenery changes.

[31:07] I mean,

Elliott Kalan

[31:07] I guess,

[31:08] unless you run on those cruises

[31:09] where it's just the ocean

[31:10] for a long,

[31:10] long time.

Stuart Wellington

[31:11] Yeah,

[31:11] but that's,

[31:12] you're not seeing that

[31:13] outside your fucking home window.

[31:15] No,

[31:15] that's true.

[31:16] It's a different place.

Elliott Kalan

[31:17] The,

[31:17] it's,

[31:18] but it reminds me of,

[31:19] um,

[31:19] like,

[31:20] it's,

[31:20] you could say the same thing

[31:21] about like,

[31:22] french fries

[31:22] and chicken fingers

[31:23] and hot dogs

[31:24] where it's like,

[31:25] yeah,

[31:25] man,

[31:25] I know.

[31:25] It's not like,

[31:26] I'm not gonna eat it

[31:27] all the fucking time.

[31:28] I'm not gonna eat it constantly.

[31:29] Every now and then

[31:30] you want something like that.

[31:31] So,

[31:31] take that,

[31:32] the late David Foster Wallace.

[31:34] Now,

[31:34] of course,

[31:35] he was also dealing

[31:35] with his own demons

[31:36] that I think made it harder

[31:37] for him to enjoy

[31:38] those types of pleasures.

[31:39] Yeah,

[31:39] I like the demons

Stuart Wellington

[31:40] from the Buffy TV show.

[31:41] Yeah,

[31:41] he had a Nesmeranian

Elliott Kalan

[31:43] inside of him.

[31:43] That was part of the problem.

[31:44] Yeah.

[31:45] So,

[31:45] let's go to,

[31:46] we're gonna go to one more,

[31:47] uh,

[31:48] movie before the break,

[31:49] uh,

[31:49] when we're just gonna update you

[31:50] on what's going on

[31:51] with the Flophouse.

[31:52] This is a movie mentioned

[31:53] by Stuart earlier,

[31:54] Summer of Sam.

[31:55] Now,

[31:55] of course,

[31:56] this is,

Stuart Wellington

[31:56] this is,

[31:58] uh,

[31:58] not true to your

[32:00] summer experience,

[32:01] Elliot.

Elliott Kalan

[32:01] I mean,

[32:02] the only reason

[32:03] it's not true

[32:03] to my summer experience

[32:04] is I was not alive

[32:05] in 1977.

[32:06] Yeah.

[32:07] So,

[32:07] I didn't experience

[32:07] the New York City blackout

[32:09] or the,

[32:09] the murder spree

[32:10] of the Son of Sam.

[32:11] Guys,

[32:12] have you seen this movie?

[32:14] Yes.

[32:14] Mm-hmm,

[32:15] mm-hmm,

[32:15] mm-hmm.

[32:16] Okay.

[32:16] Does it represent

[32:17] the way summers were for you?

[32:19] Just hot in the city,

[32:20] murder on,

[32:21] murder on the loose?

[32:22] Yes,

[32:23] certainly not.

[32:23] Tension everywhere.

Dan McCoy

[32:25] No,

[32:26] I did not grow up

[32:26] in any sort of

[32:27] urban environment

[32:28] and there was no

[32:29] serial killer

[32:30] everyone was afraid of.

[32:32] Okay.

[32:33] So,

[32:33] I would say this is-

Elliott Kalan

[32:34] Just that one serial killer

[32:34] that everyone was friendly with.

Dan McCoy

[32:35] Yeah.

[32:36] Well,

[32:36] we understood why he was doing it

[32:38] and,

[32:39] you know,

[32:39] he kept it to the right people,

[32:41] so.

[32:42] No,

[32:42] you just got one of them Dexters.

[32:45] It's okay.

[32:45] Yeah,

[32:45] I got a Dexter in the sound.

[32:48] No,

[32:48] I think that it would be hard

[32:49] to come up with a summer movie

[32:51] that was less like my experience.

Stuart Wellington

[32:53] Yeah,

[32:53] I mean,

[32:54] this didn't speak to my

[32:55] childhood or teenage experience,

[32:57] but as an adult living in New York,

[32:59] I've had some hot summers.

Elliott Kalan

[33:01] And we've experienced blackouts there,

[33:03] right?

[33:03] You guys were there

[33:04] for the 2004 blackout,

[33:05] right?

[33:05] Although,

[33:06] that was a different thing.

[33:06] I just moved there.

Dan McCoy

[33:07] I had to walk from Midtown

[33:08] back to Park Slope.

[33:10] Oh,

[33:10] wow.

[33:10] What a nice walk.

Elliott Kalan

[33:11] I mean,

[33:12] if you want to do it.

[33:13] It's not-

[33:13] Yeah,

Dan McCoy

[33:14] it got pretty tiring by the end.

Elliott Kalan

[33:15] I just had to walk from Midtown

[33:18] to Upper East Side,

[33:21] which was great.

[33:22] That was a different kind of blackout.

[33:23] That was such a friendly blackout.

[33:25] Everybody kind of like got along

[33:26] and was comfortable with each other.

[33:28] Yes.

[33:28] It was very sweet.

Stuart Wellington

[33:29] Dan,

[33:29] was that the-

[33:30] But on that walk,

[33:31] did you keep like doing pirouettes

[33:33] in the street being like,

[33:34] I've made it to Manhattan.

[33:36] That's right.

[33:36] I kept throwing my hat up in the air too.

Elliott Kalan

[33:39] Yeah,

[33:39] I mean,

[33:39] that doesn't happen in a show.

[33:41] I know it's not in New York.

[33:42] Yeah,

[33:42] that's not in New York.

[33:43] Yeah.

[33:44] I'm just going with the bus.

[33:45] I think so,

[33:48] yeah.

[33:50] And so,

[33:50] so,

[33:51] so Summer of Sam,

[33:52] let's just say,

[33:53] is that the way you would want

[33:54] your summer to go?

[33:55] Would you like your summer

[33:56] to be a Summer of Sam?

Stuart Wellington

[33:57] Well,

[33:58] I feel like there's a lot

[33:59] of cocaine involved.

Elliott Kalan

[34:01] Is that a plus or a minus?

[34:03] I'm going to say a minus

[34:04] at this age.

Dan McCoy

[34:06] Studio 54,

[34:07] Plato's Retreat,

[34:08] or both.

Elliott Kalan

[34:09] I think they go to,

[34:10] they go to both.

[34:11] Yeah.

[34:12] Yeah.

[34:12] They try to go to Studio 54.

[34:14] Yeah,

[34:14] they try to go

[34:14] and they end up

[34:15] at Plato's Retreat.

Dan McCoy

[34:16] That stuff seems

[34:17] sort of interesting

[34:18] for some reason.

[34:19] They go to CBGB's

Elliott Kalan

[34:20] but they don't like it.

[34:21] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[34:22] Yeah,

[34:22] but the,

[34:23] yeah,

[34:23] being constantly afraid

[34:24] of someone murdering you

[34:27] seems unpleasant.

[34:27] No,

[34:28] I'm going to guess

[34:28] that the Plato's...

[34:29] In a city on fire,

[34:30] you know?

[34:30] Yeah.

[34:31] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[34:31] I'm going to guess,

[34:32] the only city on fire

[34:33] I want is the music

[34:35] from Sweeney Todd.

[34:36] Oh,

[34:37] yeah.

[34:37] I'm guessing,

[34:37] Dan,

[34:38] I'm guessing

[34:39] the Plato's Retreat experience

[34:40] was not pleasant.

[34:40] It was not pleasant

Dan McCoy

[34:41] for the characters

[34:42] in that movie.

[34:43] No,

[34:43] they were probably

[34:44] in real life,

[34:45] I'm guessing.

[34:45] It was part of their

[34:45] dissolution as a couple,

[34:47] I think.

[34:48] Yeah.

[34:48] Yeah,

[34:48] yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[34:49] Now,

[34:50] and was Plato there often

[34:51] or does he just stop by

[34:52] every now and then?

[34:53] The same way that like,

Stuart Wellington

[34:54] because it's not like...

[34:54] Oh,

[34:55] it's Plato the guy

[34:56] and not the like,

[34:57] putty.

[34:58] Not the putty,

[34:59] yeah,

[34:59] exactly.

[34:59] Oh,

[34:59] I thought that's what it was.

Dan McCoy

[35:01] A Plato retreat is where,

[35:02] like,

[35:02] that would be fun.

[35:03] Where you just like,

[35:04] lie down.

[35:05] That sounds great.

[35:05] You just like,

[35:06] get out of Plato,

[35:06] right?

[35:07] Yeah,

Elliott Kalan

[35:07] or just,

[35:07] you know,

[35:08] it's just molding around you

[35:09] while you do it.

[35:10] Yeah,

[35:10] of course.

[35:11] Because it's like

[35:11] when Grandpa Al Lewis

[35:12] from the Munsters

[35:13] had a restaurant,

[35:14] he would be at the restaurant

[35:15] and he'd interact with people.

[35:16] But was Plato there

[35:17] at Plato's Retreat?

[35:18] Just be,

[35:18] how you doing?

[35:18] Hey!

[35:19] Was he dressed as Grandpa Al

Stuart Wellington

[35:21] from the Munsters?

[35:22] Was he in the costume?

Elliott Kalan

[35:23] Yes.

[35:24] Well,

[35:24] I mean,

[35:24] he wouldn't be in the costume,

[35:25] but he would,

[35:25] he was called Grandpa Al

[35:27] all the time.

[35:27] When he ran for,

[35:28] there was,

[35:28] he ran for the mayor

[35:29] of New York once

[35:30] and the big thing

[35:31] was he wanted to be

[35:31] on the ballot

[35:32] as Grandpa Al Lewis

[35:33] and it was,

[35:34] it was a big argument

[35:35] about whether he could be

[35:35] listed as Grandpa.

Stuart Wellington

[35:36] Was his restaurant

[35:37] in New York?

[35:39] It was in New York,

[35:40] yes.

[35:40] Okay.

[35:40] So it's like

[35:41] a Jekyll and Hyde's thing

[35:42] where he's in costume?

Elliott Kalan

[35:44] I don't think

[35:45] he was in costume.

Stuart Wellington

[35:46] That's what I'm saying.

[35:47] But did they wear costumes

[35:48] at Jekyll and Hyde's?

[35:49] They did wear costumes

[35:50] at Jekyll and Hyde's.

[35:51] Did you guys ever go there?

Dan McCoy

[35:52] I sure did.

[35:53] I didn't.

[35:53] I'm so upset.

[35:54] Yeah,

[35:55] I went,

Elliott Kalan

[35:56] it was pretty awesome.

[35:56] I went when I was probably

[35:57] like 15 or something

[35:59] with my family

[35:59] and it was,

[36:00] it was so much,

[36:01] we went to the really big one too.

[36:03] Yeah.

[36:03] Like there were two of them.

[36:04] We went to the big one.

[36:04] It was so much fun.

[36:05] It was so cheesy.

[36:06] It was really fun.

[36:07] And then when I went

[36:07] to Mars 2112 later

[36:09] as a college student,

[36:10] I was like,

[36:11] no,

[36:12] no,

[36:12] I've been to Jekyll and Hyde's.

[36:13] I've seen this done right.

[36:15] I've seen it done well.

Stuart Wellington

[36:16] This is not doing it for me.

[36:17] It's on fire, baby.

[36:18] I don't need this.

Elliott Kalan

[36:18] I've seen things,

[36:19] I've seen things

[36:20] you couldn't imagine.

[36:21] The Jekyll and Hyde floor show.

Dan McCoy

[36:26] Yeah.

[36:27] Those words just conjure something

[36:29] in my brain

[36:30] that I'll never.

[36:31] Yeah,

[36:31] they just melt away

[36:32] like teardrops in the rain.

[36:34] Yeah,

[36:34] yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[36:35] Dan,

[36:35] you would have really,

[36:36] I think,

[36:36] Dan,

[36:36] I wonder when you,

[36:37] if you went when you were young,

[36:38] I think you would have been like,

[36:39] ugh,

[36:40] they're not treating the monsters

[36:41] with enough respect.

[36:42] But if you went now,

[36:42] I think you'd really enjoy it.

[36:43] Yeah,

[36:44] yeah.

[36:44] Unfortunately,

[36:45] it doesn't exist now.

[36:45] So you can't go now.

Dan McCoy

[36:46] Maybe I can find something

[36:47] on YouTube.

[36:47] Maybe there's something about that.

[36:49] I bet you can.

[36:49] I'm sure.

Elliott Kalan

[36:51] Now,

[36:51] while Dan looks up

[36:52] Jekyll and Hyde's restaurant,

[36:53] for anyone who's not familiar

[36:54] with this,

[36:55] this was a,

[36:56] this was a kind of like

[36:57] horror themed

[36:58] stunt restaurant

[37:00] in New York

[37:01] that was as if you were

[37:02] going to a private club

[37:03] where every,

[37:04] every day,

[37:05] Dr. Jekyll performed

[37:06] his experiment

[37:07] and turned into Mr. Hyde.

Stuart Wellington

[37:08] It was like a,

[37:09] like an even more intense,

[37:11] like,

[37:11] like Chuck E. Cheese

[37:13] or,

[37:14] like Rainforest Cafe.

[37:16] Even more intense

[37:17] than Chuck E. Cheese?

[37:18] Yeah.

[37:19] Better believe it, dude.

Elliott Kalan

[37:20] It was like Chuck E. Cheese

[37:21] for twisted guys.

[37:22] Like,

[37:22] you'd see Cormac McCarthy

[37:23] in a corner booth

Stuart Wellington

[37:24] just watching the floor show.

[37:25] Slamming down

[37:26] a Hyde burger

[37:27] or whatever.

[37:29] You don't want

[37:29] the Hyde burger.

[37:31] Get the Jekyll burger.

Dan McCoy

[37:32] Oh, no.

[37:33] The Jekyll burger song

Elliott Kalan

[37:33] with the one

[37:34] with wild sauce on it.

[37:35] Yeah.

[37:36] The Hyde one

[37:37] is evil.

[37:39] Let's take it,

[37:40] let's take a brief break

[37:41] just to remind you,

[37:42] the listener,

[37:42] that you don't just have

[37:43] to listen to the Flophouse.

[37:45] You can also watch it

[37:46] in person

[37:46] on September 18th

[37:48] if you're in Louisville,

[37:49] Kentucky,

[37:50] on that date

[37:51] because the Flophouse

[37:52] will be appearing live,

[37:53] our first live show

[37:54] in months

[37:55] in Louisville, Kentucky

[37:56] at Whirling Tiger.

[37:57] Go to

[37:57] flophousepodcast.com

[37:58] slash events.

[37:59] It's Friday night,

[38:00] September 18th.

[38:01] We will be there.

[38:02] We're going to be talking

[38:03] about the movie Glitter

[38:04] starring Magaya Carey

[38:05] and we'll be joined

[38:07] by special guest

[38:08] Howell Doughty.

[38:09] That's right,

[38:09] the Howell Doughty

[38:10] we talk about

[38:11] at the end of each episode

[38:11] will be there with us.

[38:14] What is he going to do?

[38:15] We have to figure it out.

[38:16] All we know is

[38:17] we're going to be there

[38:17] yucking it up,

[38:18] having fun.

[38:19] It's going to be great.

[38:20] Come see us.

[38:21] Go to

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[38:22] slash events

[38:23] for tickets to see us

[38:24] live in Louisville, Kentucky

[38:25] and also

[38:26] if you want to see us

[38:27] but you don't want

[38:28] to see us in person,

[38:30] let's just say

[38:30] a little birdie told me

[38:31] that Flop TV

[38:32] is coming back.

[38:34] Flop TV season four

[38:35] is on its way to you.

[38:37] That's our one hour

[38:38] TV online

[38:39] internet broadcast

[38:40] version of the Flophouse

[38:41] and what link

[38:42] can people go to

[38:43] to buy tickets

[38:44] for that dance?

Dan McCoy

[38:45] Well, as of this recording

[38:46] it doesn't exist

[38:47] but I think

[38:49] there's a very good chance

[38:50] that by the time

[38:51] this is going

[38:52] to be released

[38:52] we will have

[38:54] set up a link

[38:55] and maybe

[38:57] we can record

[38:58] a drop

[38:58] to insert

[38:59] hear

[39:00] theflophouse.simpleticks.com

[39:04] But if you didn't hear it

[39:06] we didn't have that link yet.

Elliott Kalan

[39:08] As with before

[39:09] we will be doing

[39:10] it will be the first

[39:11] Saturday of each month

[39:12] September through February

[39:13] and we've got

[39:15] a really fun theme.

[39:15] Should we talk about

[39:16] the theme yet

[39:16] or should we save that

[39:17] for next time?

Dan McCoy

[39:18] No, we can

[39:19] like, hey

[39:19] if we're teasing it

[39:20] we can announce

[39:21] the theme, you know?

[39:22] Get everyone excited.

Elliott Kalan

[39:24] We're used to talking

[39:24] about the worst movies

[39:26] how about

[39:27] the best movies

[39:28] best pictures

[39:29] that is.

[39:29] That's right

[39:30] the Flophouse

[39:31] is going to take on

[39:31] the best pictures

[39:33] that are

[39:33] maybe the worst

[39:34] best pictures

[39:35] and we're going to

[39:37] do an episode

[39:37] for each of these

[39:38] let's not say

[39:39] the movies yet

[39:39] just yet

[39:40] let's let people

[39:40] marinate on that

[39:41] but

[39:41] you know what

[39:43] we may

[39:43] finally have

[39:44] our reckoning

[39:45] with a certain

[39:46] best picture winner

[39:46] that I'm not sure

[39:48] actually exists

[39:49] as a real movie.

[39:50] We're going to prove it.

[39:50] I think it's an

[39:51] elaborate psyop

[39:52] and we'll find out

[39:53] if it's a real movie

[39:53] or not.

[39:54] So that's Flop TV

[39:55] season four

[39:55] coming your way

[39:56] link insert here

Dan McCoy

[39:58] theflophouse.simpleticks.com

Elliott Kalan

[40:01] and go there

[40:03] to buy tickets

[40:04] as always

[40:05] you can get

[40:05] individual episodes

[40:06] or a season pass.

Justin McElroy

[40:11] In 2026

[40:13] our comedy podcast

[40:14] Sawbones

[40:15] is one of the most

[40:16] reputable sources

[40:17] for medical information.

[40:19] Does that make me

[40:19] feel great?

Elliott Kalan

[40:20] No.

[40:21] No.

[40:21] Me neither

[40:21] but I do like to think

[40:23] we're doing our part

[40:24] in making sure

[40:25] that we're fighting

[40:25] the pseudoscientific

[40:27] misinformation

[40:27] that has pervaded

[40:28] modern society.

Justin McElroy

[40:29] Yeah but we're

[40:30] we're doing our part

[40:31] over here on

[40:31] Sawbones every week

[40:32] a marital tour

[40:33] of misguided medicine.

[40:34] It's not all serious stuff.

[40:35] We're still getting

[40:36] into all the wild

[40:37] weird ways

[40:38] we used to try

[40:38] to heal people

[40:39] over the years

[40:39] but we're also

[40:40] trying to keep tabs

[40:41] on the evolving

[40:42] situation.

Elliott Kalan

[40:44] Yeah.

[40:44] We can talk about

[40:45] drinking raw milk

[40:45] and eating mummies.

[40:47] It's Sawbones.

Justin McElroy

[40:48] It's Sawbones.

[40:48] It's every Tuesday

[40:49] and it's on

[40:51] MaximumFun.org

[40:52] or wherever you get

[40:53] a podcast these days.

[40:54] All right.

[40:55] Yeah.

John Hodgman

[40:57] On Judge John Hodgman

[40:58] the courtroom is fake

[40:59] but the disputes

[41:00] are real.

Dan McCoy

[41:02] Brian would say

[41:03] I'm the Gumby

[41:04] of this family.

[41:05] He's just not.

John Hodgman

[41:06] claiming to be Gumby

[41:08] is an un-Gumby

[41:09] like claim.

[41:11] No it's just Gumby

[41:12] and I being

[41:12] our authentic selves.

[41:14] So what's your complaint?

[41:15] Too many sauces?

Elliott Kalan

[41:16] There are no foods

[41:18] on which to put

[41:19] the sauces.

John Hodgman

[41:20] Have we named

[41:20] all the sauces

[41:21] on the top shelf yet?

[41:21] Not even close.

[41:23] You economize

[41:24] when it comes to pants.

Elliott Kalan

[41:26] Truly it's not

[41:27] about the cleanliness

[41:28] of the pants.

John Hodgman

[41:28] Well why isn't it?

[41:29] This is what

[41:30] I want to know.

[41:31] Judge John Hodgman

[41:32] fake court

[41:33] weird cases

[41:34] real justice

[41:35] on MaximumFun.org

[41:37] YouTube

[41:38] and everywhere

[41:39] you get podcasts.

Elliott Kalan

[41:41] Now let's get back

[41:42] to the Flophouse Mini

[41:43] unless you guys

[41:43] have anything personal

[41:44] you want to talk about?

[41:45] Nope.

Dan McCoy

[41:46] All right.

[41:47] Like our feelings?

[41:47] Yeah let's talk

[41:48] about our feelings.

[41:49] This is your time.

[41:50] No let's do it

[41:50] in the context

[41:51] of the show

[41:52] like usual.

[41:52] Okay.

[41:53] Let's talk about

Elliott Kalan

[41:54] more summer movies.

[41:55] We've got a few

[41:56] more summer movies

[41:56] we're going to talk

[41:57] about whether

[41:57] you've seen them

[41:59] whether they represent

[41:59] your summer.

[42:00] Would you like them

[42:01] to be your son?

[42:03] Whether you

[42:04] see it

[42:06] and wouldn't

[42:06] want to be it

[42:07] or whether you

[42:08] see it

[42:08] and would want

[42:09] to be it.

[42:09] This first one

[42:10] coming up

[42:10] guys

[42:11] when we talk

[42:12] about movies

[42:12] with summer

[42:13] in the title

[42:13] I'm just going

[42:14] to have to say

[42:14] that I know

[42:15] what you did

[42:16] last summer

[42:17] which is also

[42:18] the title

[42:19] of this movie.

[42:20] So have you guys

[42:20] seen I Know

[42:21] What You Did

[42:21] Last Summer?

[42:22] Now for the record

[42:22] I'm talking about

[42:23] the original

[42:24] and not the sequel

[42:25] which has the same title

[42:26] but it's not a remake

[42:27] right?

[42:28] It's a sequel.

[42:28] I still know

Stuart Wellington

[42:30] is the sequel

[42:31] and then there's

[42:31] the legacy

[42:32] the legacy

[42:33] but I'm talking

[42:34] about the original

Elliott Kalan

[42:35] 1997 I Know

[42:37] Last Summer

[42:37] not the 2025

[42:38] I Know What You Did

[42:39] Last Summer

[42:40] which is a sequel

[42:41] to I Still Know

[42:42] You Better Believe

Dan McCoy

[42:43] I Know What You Did

[42:46] Last Summer

[42:46] I was in college

[42:48] when it came out

[42:49] everyone was excited

[42:51] about Kevin Williamson

[42:53] because he wrote

[42:53] Scream

[42:54] and made Dawson's Creek

[42:56] on the TV

[42:57] and you're like

[42:58] yeah he's doing

[42:59] another horror movie

[43:01] Scream

[43:01] undeniable

[43:02] yeah no Scream

[43:03] still great

Elliott Kalan

[43:04] still works

[43:05] still works

[43:06] there's a reason

[43:06] they've done

[43:07] eight of them

[43:07] one of which

[43:08] ripped me off

[43:09] but otherwise

[43:09] maybe it's not

[43:10] eight of them

[43:11] how many have they done

[43:11] they made

Stuart Wellington

[43:12] what

[43:13] they made

[43:13] six

[43:15] seven

[43:15] I don't know

[43:16] but the last two

[43:17] have been

Elliott Kalan

[43:17] hey Stuart

[43:18] stop trying to get on

[43:19] this young people

[43:20] six seven grace

Stuart Wellington

[43:21] but the last two

[43:23] yes have been

[43:23] dog shit

Elliott Kalan

[43:24] so I know

[43:25] you did

[43:25] so yes

[43:26] there's a reason

[43:26] they made so many

[43:27] that first Scream

[43:28] is undeniable

[43:29] for sure

[43:29] but I know

[43:30] last summer

[43:30] did you have

[43:31] the same

[43:31] experience

[43:32] as with Scream

[43:33] did you laugh

[43:33] did you scream

[43:34] did you walk away

[43:35] saying Kevin

[43:35] Williamson

[43:36] has done it again

Dan McCoy

[43:37] oh did I have

[43:37] the same

[43:38] no I mean

[43:38] it's fine

[43:39] it's a fine

[43:40] like silly

[43:41] glossy

[43:42] slasher movie

[43:43] it's not that good

[43:44] but I like seeing

[43:45] some of the actors

[43:46] in it

Stuart Wellington

[43:47] at the time

[43:48] of its release

[43:49] I had moved on

[43:50] to harder

[43:51] stranger things

[43:52] that you could find

[43:53] deep within the bowels

[43:54] of my video store

[43:56] but not the show

Elliott Kalan

[43:56] stranger things

[43:57] which would not exist

[43:58] for quite some time

[43:59] no

[43:59] I was wrong

[44:00] I'm sorry

[44:00] I thought

[44:01] I know what you did

[44:01] last summer

[44:02] was a sequel to

[44:02] I still know

[44:03] last summer

[44:03] it's a sequel to

[44:04] I'll always know

[44:05] last summer

[44:06] which was the third

[44:07] movie in the series

[44:08] there was a third

[44:09] movie

[44:09] that one I have not seen

[44:11] oh no you know what

[44:11] it's a direct to video

[44:13] standalone sequel

[44:14] so it's actually

[44:15] you know what

[44:15] it's not part of the

[44:16] main last summer

[44:17] continuity

[44:18] now does it bother you

[44:19] at all

[44:19] Dan I imagine

[44:20] this would bother you

[44:21] that they keep saying

[44:22] last summer

[44:22] when it is fact

[44:23] at this point

[44:23] many summers ago

Dan McCoy

[44:25] people have

[44:25] people pointed out

[44:26] that it should have been

[44:28] the summer before last

[44:29] I still know what you did

[44:31] the summer before last

[44:32] but yeah

[44:34] that first

[44:37] last summer sequel

[44:37] is a great

[44:39] bad movie

[44:41] like that is a fun

[44:42] bad one

[44:43] if you're looking for

[44:44] a dumb thing

[44:45] for your Halloween

Stuart Wellington

[44:45] that title

[44:46] is just like

[44:47] perfect for

[44:48] scary movie

[44:49] esque type

[44:50] bullshit jokes

[44:51] yes

Elliott Kalan

[44:51] yeah exactly

[44:52] I have to

[44:54] I saw

[44:54] I know you did

[44:55] last summer

[44:55] I don't remember it

[44:56] that well

[44:56] to be honest

[44:57] it's like

Stuart Wellington

[44:57] fisherman right

[44:58] fisherman

Elliott Kalan

[44:59] it's like

[45:00] Gorton's fisherman

[45:00] is after them

[45:01] with a fish hook

[45:02] yeah exactly

[45:02] because they like

[45:03] hit someone

[45:03] with their car

[45:04] right

[45:04] yeah

[45:04] it's got

[45:05] him

Dan McCoy

[45:05] it's got

[45:06] him

[45:06] they hit him

[45:07] right

[45:08] him

[45:09] yeah

Elliott Kalan

[45:10] but it's not

[45:11] him

[45:11] it's not

[45:12] like

[45:12] he's not

[45:12] back from the

[45:13] dead

[45:13] it's somebody

[45:13] it's

[45:14] what

[45:14] someone wants

[45:15] revenge

[45:15] right

[45:16] yeah

Dan McCoy

[45:16] someone wants

[45:16] revenge

[45:17] yeah

[45:17] and they got

[45:18] you know

[45:19] you got your

[45:19] big 90s teen

[45:20] stars

[45:20] Jennifer Love Hewitt

[45:21] Sarah Michelle Gellar

[45:22] Freddie Prinze Jr

[45:24] Ryan Phillippe

[45:25] everyone with

[45:25] three words

[45:26] yeah

Elliott Kalan

[45:27] Johnny Galecki

[45:28] is in there

[45:29] yeah

[45:29] really

[45:30] yeah

[45:31] wow

[45:31] so you have

[45:32] yeah

[45:33] so is that

[45:34] representative of

[45:35] your summers

[45:35] did you ever

[45:36] hit someone

[45:36] with your car

[45:37] and then

[45:38] and then they

[45:38] wanted revenge

[45:39] on you

[45:39] the next

[45:39] summer

Dan McCoy

[45:40] yeah

[45:40] sure

[45:40] let me

[45:41] tell you

[45:41] about it

[45:42] oh damn

[45:43] we got

[45:45] what we need

Elliott Kalan

[45:46] swarm

[45:47] swarm

[45:47] yeah

[45:48] no

[45:49] it was worth

[45:49] doing this

[45:49] podcast

[45:50] for 19

[45:51] years or so

[45:51] to get that

[45:52] confession

Dan McCoy

[45:52] I never

[45:53] lived in a

[45:55] fishing village

[45:57] on the coast

[45:57] I never

[45:59] hit anyone

[45:59] with my car

[46:00] I never

[46:02] I mean

[46:03] I've hit other

[46:04] cars with my car

[46:05] accidentally

[46:05] from time to time

[46:06] did you ever

Elliott Kalan

[46:07] do something

[46:07] during a summer

[46:08] that you were

[46:08] ashamed of

[46:09] and you hoped

[46:09] people didn't

[46:10] know about

Dan McCoy

[46:11] during the

[46:12] summer

[46:13] so I

Stuart Wellington

[46:16] hit a guy

[46:16] with my car

[46:17] haven't we all

[46:18] but my experience

[46:19] is more like

[46:19] infinity pool

[46:20] than

[46:20] I thought yours

[46:21] was more of a

Elliott Kalan

[46:22] stuck experience

[46:23] where he was

[46:23] he was still

[46:23] halfway through

[46:24] the windshield

[46:24] and you just

[46:25] left him in your

[46:25] garage

Dan McCoy

[46:25] my experience

[46:27] was more like

[46:28] should we

[46:29] exchange

[46:29] insurance

[46:30] no

[46:31] it doesn't

[46:31] look like

[46:32] there's really

[46:32] any damage

[46:33] okay

[46:33] well

[46:33] see ya

Elliott Kalan

[46:34] and he

[46:35] probably

[46:36] forgot about

[46:36] so he

[46:36] didn't know

[46:37] what you

[46:37] did last

[46:37] summer

[46:37] is this

[46:38] what you

[46:38] want

[46:38] you

[46:38] would

[46:39] want

[46:39] your

[46:39] summer

[46:39] to be

[46:40] like

[46:40] that you

[46:40] cover up

[46:40] a crime

[46:41] and then

[46:42] you have

[46:42] to pay

[46:42] for it

[46:42] afterwards

[46:43] yeah

Stuart Wellington

[46:44] when you

[46:45] think

[46:45] you've

[46:45] gotten away

[46:46] scot-free

[46:46] and then

[46:46] a murderer

[46:47] comes and

[46:47] kills all

[46:48] your friends

[46:48] and potentially

[46:49] you

[46:49] certainly

[46:49] not the

[46:50] pay for it

[46:50] part

[46:51] yeah

Elliott Kalan

[46:52] you'd like

[46:53] to get away

[46:53] with it

Stuart Wellington

[46:54] is what you

[46:54] I like

[46:54] sewing

[46:55] but reaping

[46:56] is less

[46:57] fun

[46:57] yeah

[46:58] all right

[46:58] okay

Elliott Kalan

[46:59] well perhaps

[47:00] this will be

[47:01] more to your

[47:03] liking

[47:03] this is a movie

[47:05] that's also

[47:06] about summer

[47:06] but it's not

[47:07] about

[47:07] a crime

[47:09] that's committed

[47:09] but it is

[47:10] maybe about

[47:10] a summer

[47:11] where boundaries

[47:11] are pushed

[47:12] and that's

[47:12] summer lover

[47:13] from 1982

[47:14] starring Peter Gallagher

[47:16] Daryl Hannah

[47:16] and Valerie

[47:17] Quinison

[47:18] how do you guys

[47:18] have you seen

[47:19] this movie

[47:19] are you familiar

[47:20] with it

[47:20] I have not

[47:21] seen this movie

[47:21] there's no way

[47:22] Dan has not

[47:23] I was shown

Dan McCoy

[47:23] this by

[47:24] our

[47:26] AV

[47:26] expert

[47:28] the man

[47:30] behind the scenes

[47:30] also a flop

[47:31] TV

[47:31] Matt

[47:32] Matt

[47:32] Carmen

[47:33] and

[47:34] he's car

[47:35] he's man

[47:35] he's all man

[47:36] Ksenia

[47:37] whole human

[47:38] being in her own

[47:39] right as

[47:39] Hodgman would say

[47:41] yeah we watched it

[47:42] I was

[47:43] I gotta say

[47:44] I was annoyed

[47:44] at this movie

[47:45] this is a movie

[47:45] about a

[47:46] threesome

[47:47] that really

[47:48] backs off

[47:48] on the

[47:49] threesome

[47:51] it's about

Elliott Kalan

[47:51] there's two

[47:53] Americans

[47:54] who are on

[47:54] vacation in

[47:55] Greece

[47:55] right

[47:55] and they

[47:56] meet a

[47:56] lady that

[47:57] they're

[47:57] attracted to

[47:58] and they

[47:59] have a

[47:59] summer of

[48:00] sexual

[48:00] experimentation

[48:01] yeah

[48:01] yeah I

[48:01] don't

[48:02] think

Dan McCoy

[48:02] yeah

[48:02] it never

[48:03] really

[48:03] like

[48:04] heats up

[48:05] to the

[48:05] point

[48:05] that

[48:05] you

[48:05] would

[48:06] expect

[48:06] from the

[48:08] setup

[48:08] I would

[48:09] say

[48:09] I don't

[48:10] think

[48:10] things are

[48:11] consummated

[48:11] fully

[48:12] in the

[48:12] way

[48:12] one

[48:13] one who

[48:14] was brought

[48:14] into the

[48:14] theater

[48:15] with the

[48:15] promise

[48:16] secrets

[48:18] you don't

[48:19] see it

Elliott Kalan

[48:20] happen

[48:20] you don't

[48:20] see the

[48:21] things that

[48:21] you want

[48:21] to have

[48:22] seen

[48:22] so

[48:24] Stuart

[48:24] you've

[48:24] never

[48:24] seen

[48:24] this

[48:25] movie

[48:25] Dan

[48:26] you've

[48:26] seen it

[48:27] probably

[48:27] seen

[48:27] certain

[48:27] parts

[48:28] of it

[48:28] more

[48:28] than

[48:28] other

[48:29] parts

[48:29] of it

[48:29] it's

[48:29] not

Dan McCoy

[48:30] really

[48:30] that

[48:30] much

[48:31] of a

[48:31] anyway

Elliott Kalan

[48:32] so

[48:33] is this

[48:33] like

[48:34] your

[48:34] summer

[48:35] have

[48:35] you

[48:35] ever

[48:35] gone

[48:36] to

[48:36] Greece

[48:36] and

[48:37] had

[48:37] a

[48:37] summer

[48:38] of

[48:38] sexual

[48:38] experimentation

[48:39] and

[48:39] erotic

[48:40] adventurism

Stuart Wellington

[48:40] yeah

[48:41] and I

[48:41] left

[48:42] learning

[48:43] more

[48:43] about

[48:43] myself

[48:44] and my

[48:44] body

[48:44] and

[48:45] the

[48:45] bodies

[48:46] of

[48:46] the

[48:46] people

[48:46] close

[48:47] to

[48:47] me

[48:47] oh right

[48:47] it's a

Dan McCoy

[48:48] Randall

[48:48] Kleiser

[48:48] movie

[48:49] the director

[48:50] of

[48:50] Mac and

[48:50] Me

Elliott Kalan

[48:50] oh yeah

[48:51] oh right

[48:52] oh that's

[48:53] right

[48:53] he also

[48:55] did

[48:55] I mean

[48:55] also directed

[48:56] Greece

[48:56] so

[48:57] oh wow

[48:58] you know

[48:58] the Blue

[48:59] Lagoon

[48:59] Fly the

[49:00] Navigator

[49:00] White Fang

[49:01] wow

[49:02] bangers

[49:05] bangers

[49:05] he did

[49:06] Mac and

[49:06] Me

[49:06] also

[49:07] damn

Dan McCoy

[49:09] yeah

[49:10] wait

[49:11] didn't he

[49:12] am I

[49:13] thinking of

[49:13] someone else

Elliott Kalan

[49:14] I think

[49:14] you may

[49:14] think

[49:14] of

[49:14] someone

[49:14] else

[49:15] let's

[49:15] look

[49:15] it up

Dan McCoy

[49:16] no

[49:19] you're

[49:20] thinking

Elliott Kalan

[49:20] of

[49:21] someone

[49:21] else

[49:21] that's

[49:21] Stuart

[49:21] Raphael

[49:22] who

[49:22] directed

[49:23] Randall

[49:25] Kleiser

[49:25] I mean

[49:26] you would

[49:26] probably

[49:26] know him

[49:27] best

[49:27] from

[49:28] Big Top

[49:30] Peewee

[49:30] yeah

Dan McCoy

[49:31] I think

[49:33] there's a

[49:34] similar vibe

[49:34] to their

[49:35] name

[49:35] somehow

[49:35] but

[49:36] yeah

Elliott Kalan

[49:37] he directed

[49:38] Honey I

[49:38] Shrunk

[49:39] the

[49:39] audience

Dan McCoy

[49:39] Grandview

[49:40] USA

[49:41] because he

Elliott Kalan

[49:42] directed

[49:42] Honey I

[49:43] Blew Up

[49:43] the

[49:43] Kid

[49:43] he did

[49:43] a lot

[49:44] of

[49:44] stuff

[49:44] yeah

[49:45] yeah

[49:46] he's

[49:46] working

[49:47] you know

[49:47] anyway

[49:48] but

[49:48] so

[49:49] Stuart

[49:49] so I've

Stuart Wellington

[49:50] gone on

[49:50] one of

[49:50] these

[49:51] things

[49:51] Dan what

[49:51] about

[49:51] you

[49:52] was that

[49:52] your

[49:52] summer

[49:52] experience

[49:53] my

[49:54] um

Dan McCoy

[49:55] my

[49:56] erotic

[49:56] adventures

[49:57] did

[49:57] not

[49:57] take

[49:57] place

[49:58] in

[49:58] Greece

[49:58] no

[49:59] so

[49:59] it's

[50:00] entirely

[50:01] unlike

[50:01] anything

[50:02] in my

[50:02] life

Elliott Kalan

[50:03] all right

[50:04] I will

[50:05] also say

[50:05] this is

[50:06] not

[50:06] particularly

[50:07] relevant

[50:08] to my

[50:08] career

[50:09] my

[50:10] life

[50:11] career

[50:11] is this

[50:12] how you

[50:12] would want

[50:12] your summer

[50:13] to go

[50:13] guys

Dan McCoy

[50:14] always

[50:15] hell yeah

[50:15] wait

[50:17] Peter

[50:18] Gallagher

[50:18] is in

[50:18] the mix

[50:18] yeah

[50:19] yeah

Elliott Kalan

[50:19] Peter

[50:20] Gallagher

[50:20] is in

[50:20] the mix

Dan McCoy

[50:21] yeah

[50:21] I

[50:22] yeah

[50:23] he's a

[50:24] he's a

[50:24] charming

[50:24] fellow

[50:25] did I

[50:26] tell you guys

[50:26] about

[50:26] the terrible

[50:27] play I

[50:28] saw

[50:28] because of

[50:29] Peter

[50:29] Gallagher

Elliott Kalan

[50:29] uh

[50:30] it wasn't

[50:31] the revival

[50:32] of guys

[50:32] and dolls

[50:32] he was in

[50:32] which was

[50:33] perfect

[50:33] no no no

[50:34] it was a

[50:35] masterpiece

[50:35] yeah

[50:35] very important

[50:37] piece of

[50:37] my

[50:38] history

[50:38] this was

[50:39] the

[50:39] musical

Dan McCoy

[50:40] he was

[50:40] in the

[50:41] musical

[50:41] be sure

[50:41] to get upset

[50:42] about a thing

[50:42] I'm not

Elliott Kalan

[50:43] saying

[50:43] Dan

[50:44] how dare

[50:45] you

[50:45] slander

[50:45] maybe one

[50:46] of the

[50:46] greatest

[50:46] musical

[50:47] revivals

[50:47] there ever

[50:48] was

Dan McCoy

[50:48] no

[50:48] uh

[50:49] we were

[50:50] looking

[50:50] through

[50:50] like

[50:51] the

[50:51] discount

[50:51] tickets

[50:52] on

[50:52] theater

[50:53] development

[50:53] fund

[50:54] and

[50:54] Audrey's

[50:55] like

[50:55] do you

[50:55] want to

[50:55] see

[50:55] this

[50:56] is this

[50:56] interesting

[50:56] like

[50:57] and

[50:58] I was

[50:59] like

[50:59] I don't

[50:59] want to

[50:59] see

[50:59] that

[50:59] thing

[51:00] but

[51:00] what

[51:00] about

[51:00] this

[51:00] thing

[51:01] and

[51:01] it

[51:03] was

[51:03] called

[51:03] left

[51:04] on

[51:04] 10th

[51:04] and

[51:05] it

[51:05] was

[51:05] written

[51:06] by

[51:06] Delia

[51:06] Efron

[51:07] which

[51:08] was

[51:08] you know

[51:09] part

[51:09] of why

[51:10] I was

[51:10] interested

[51:10] in

[51:10] it

[51:10] and

[51:11] Peter

[51:11] Gallagher

[51:11] was

[51:12] one

[51:12] of

[51:12] the

[51:12] stars

[51:13] and

[51:13] I'm

[51:13] like

[51:13] how

[51:14] could

[51:14] this

[51:14] go

[51:14] wrong

[51:15] and

[51:15] it

[51:15] was

[51:15] you know

[51:17] they

[51:17] tried

[51:17] and

[51:18] god

[51:19] bless

[51:19] and

[51:19] Peter

[51:19] Gallagher

[51:20] gave

[51:21] whatever

[51:22] charm

[51:22] that

[51:22] thing

[51:23] had

[51:23] but

[51:23] it

[51:24] was

[51:24] one

[51:24] of

[51:24] these

[51:24] things

[51:24] where

[51:24] it's

[51:24] like

[51:25] Delia

[51:25] just

[51:26] because

[51:26] this

[51:27] is

[51:27] very

[51:27] dramatic

[51:27] this

[51:28] thing

[51:29] that

[51:29] happened

[51:29] to

[51:30] you

[51:30] but

[51:31] you've

[51:31] barely

[51:31] like

[51:32] turned

[51:32] it

[51:32] into

[51:33] theater

[51:33] like

[51:34] this

[51:34] is

[51:35] you

[51:35] you're

[51:35] too

[51:35] close

[51:36] to

[51:36] the

[51:36] material

[51:36] and

[51:37] it

[51:37] was

[51:37] one

[51:37] of

[51:37] the

[51:37] worst

[51:38] things

[51:38] I've

[51:38] seen

[51:38] on

[51:38] Broadway

[51:39] and

[51:39] I

[51:40] just

[51:40] really

[51:41] enjoyed

[51:41] bad

[51:42] to

[51:43] the

[51:43] point

[51:43] that

[51:43] I

[51:43] was

[51:43] enjoying

[51:44] it

[51:44] because

[51:46] there

[51:47] are

[51:47] these

[51:47] elderly

[51:48] women

[51:48] behind

[51:48] us

[51:50] who

[51:50] were

[51:51] in

[51:51] some

[51:51] sort

[51:51] of

[51:51] Broadway

[51:51] club

[51:52] I

[51:53] could

[51:53] overhear

[51:54] them

[51:54] starting

[51:54] going

[51:54] it's

[51:55] not

[51:55] very

[51:56] good

[51:56] is

[51:56] it

Elliott Kalan

[51:56] hearing

[51:58] older

[51:59] Broadway

[52:00] theater

[52:00] goers

[52:00] talking

[52:01] about

[52:01] a

[52:01] play

[52:02] is

[52:03] one

[52:03] of

[52:03] the

[52:03] greatest

[52:03] things

[52:04] I

[52:06] had

[52:07] many

[52:07] conversations

[52:07] like that

[52:08] with my

[52:08] grandmother

[52:08] when we

[52:09] would

[52:09] see

[52:09] plays

[52:09] that

[52:09] we

[52:10] were

[52:10] not

[52:10] loving

[52:10] but

[52:11] Peter

[52:11] Gallagher

[52:11] he's

[52:12] fantastic

[52:12] I've

[52:13] had some

[52:13] interaction

[52:13] with

[52:13] Peter

[52:14] Gallagher

[52:14] I'll

[52:14] say

[52:15] and

[52:15] wonderful

[52:16] just

[52:16] seems

[52:16] like

[52:16] a

[52:16] wonderful

[52:17] guy

[52:17] okay

[52:18] so

[52:18] summer

[52:19] lovers

[52:19] you guys

[52:19] are all

[52:20] on board

[52:20] for that

[52:21] now

[52:22] what if

[52:23] it was

[52:23] what if

[52:23] there was

[52:24] a sadder

[52:24] version

[52:25] of that

[52:25] kind

[52:25] of

[52:25] summer

[52:25] that's

[52:26] what we're

[52:26] talking about

[52:26] summer

[52:27] of 42

[52:27] this is

[52:28] from 1971

[52:29] it's a

[52:30] coming of age

[52:31] film

[52:31] it's during

[52:32] World War II

[52:32] but these

[52:33] are some

[52:33] teenagers

[52:33] they're not

[52:34] young

[52:34] enough

[52:34] to go

[52:34] off

[52:34] to

[52:34] the

[52:34] fight

[52:35] and

[52:35] they

[52:36] really

[52:36] want

[52:36] to

[52:36] lose

[52:36] their

[52:37] virginity

[52:37] and one

[52:38] of them

[52:38] does

[52:38] with a

[52:39] woman

[52:39] whose

[52:39] husband

[52:40] is off

[52:40] at war

[52:41] and she's

[52:41] waiting for him

[52:42] to come

[52:42] back

[52:42] and it's

[52:43] mainly about

[52:44] disappointing

[52:47] first sex

[52:48] experiences

[52:49] I've not

[52:50] seen

[52:50] I haven't

[52:50] seen

[52:51] this

[52:51] all right

[52:51] is it

[52:52] representative

[52:53] of all

[52:53] of your

[52:54] experience

[52:54] did you

[52:54] when you

[52:54] were a

[52:55] teenager

[52:55] did you

[52:55] ever have

[52:56] a

[52:56] have a

[52:57] fling

[52:59] with a

[53:00] yeah

[53:00] as a

[53:01] teenager

[53:01] that's what

[53:04] happens

[53:05] was that

[53:06] experience

[53:06] with the

[53:07] wife of a

[53:08] soldier

[53:08] who was

[53:09] off at war

Stuart Wellington

[53:09] no

[53:10] okay

[53:11] thank goodness

Elliott Kalan

[53:12] but you did

[53:13] have disappointing

[53:13] sexual experiences

[53:14] I could have

Stuart Wellington

[53:15] brought her

[53:16] some comfort

[53:17] yeah

[53:17] sure

Elliott Kalan

[53:18] sure

[53:18] is this

[53:19] something

[53:20] that you

[53:20] would have

[53:20] wanted

[53:20] in your

[53:21] summer

[53:21] this kind

[53:22] of like

[53:22] kind

[53:23] of

[53:23] you know

[53:24] yeah

[53:24] probably

[53:25] when I was

Stuart Wellington

[53:26] a teenager

[53:26] I was an

[53:27] idiot

Elliott Kalan

[53:27] you grow up

[53:29] fast

[53:29] after an

[53:30] experience

[53:30] like this

[53:30] like you

[53:30] enter the

[53:31] summer

[53:31] teenager

[53:31] and you

[53:32] leave it

[53:32] an adult

[53:33] you know

[53:33] is that

[53:34] what you

[53:34] want

Dan McCoy

[53:34] it

[53:35] sounds

[53:35] kind

[53:35] of like

[53:36] it would

[53:36] linger

[53:37] with me

[53:37] in a

[53:37] sad

[53:38] way

[53:38] yeah

[53:39] I think

[53:39] so

[53:39] probably

Stuart Wellington

[53:40] about the

[53:41] you know

[53:42] the

[53:42] space

[53:43] between

[53:44] two

[53:44] people

[53:45] every now

Elliott Kalan

[53:46] and then

[53:46] you look

[53:46] back on it

[53:47] with a

[53:47] wry smile

[53:47] of regret

[53:48] you know

[53:49] but it

[53:49] made you

[53:49] what you

[53:50] are today

[53:50] a big

[53:52] Fox News

[53:52] watching

[53:53] MAGA

[53:53] enthusiast

[53:54] old man

[53:54] so

[53:55] you know

[53:55] wow

Stuart Wellington

[53:55] that infers

[53:58] a lot

[53:58] about my

[53:59] future

[53:59] but that's

[53:59] okay

Elliott Kalan

[54:00] I mean

[54:01] the future

[54:01] of you

[54:02] the guy

[54:02] who was

[54:02] a teenager

[54:03] in 1942

[54:03] oh right

Dan McCoy

[54:04] yeah

[54:04] it didn't

[54:05] happen

[54:05] we don't

[54:05] have to go

[54:06] back in

[54:06] time to

[54:06] stop it

[54:06] Stuart

[54:07] I mean

[54:07] to be honest

[54:07] if you're

Elliott Kalan

[54:08] a teenager

[54:08] in 1942

[54:08] you'd be

[54:09] 100 years

[54:09] old now

[54:10] so there's

[54:10] you know

[54:10] so you'd be

[54:11] waiting for

Stuart Wellington

[54:12] fucking Al

[54:12] Roger to show

[54:13] up with your

[54:14] fucking bouquet

[54:14] or whatever

[54:15] giant oversized

[54:17] check

[54:17] what does he do

[54:18] giant like

[54:21] Toblerone

[54:21] I'll take

[54:28] it man

Elliott Kalan

[54:28] I mean

[54:29] that don't

[54:29] turn down

[54:30] $100

[54:30] yeah

[54:30] he brings

[54:31] you $100

[54:32] worth of

[54:33] Werther's

[54:33] because he

[54:33] knows you're

[54:34] going to

[54:34] spend it

[54:34] on anyway

[54:35] yeah

Stuart Wellington

[54:35] I go to

[54:37] the fucking

[54:37] Werther's

[54:38] store

[54:38] and they

[54:38] have my

[54:39] number

[54:39] I've got

[54:41] fat pigeons

[54:42] here

[54:42] ready to be

[54:43] blocked

[54:43] boy

[54:44] I see the

[54:45] fucking

[54:46] salesman

[54:46] licking

[54:46] his lips

[54:47] licking

[54:48] him because

[54:48] he's got

[54:49] a fucking

[54:49] Werther's

[54:49] in his

[54:50] room

Elliott Kalan

[54:50] we're

[54:51] meeting

[54:51] our

[54:51] sales

[54:51] quota

[54:52] today

[54:52] fellas

[54:53] hey guys

[54:54] let me

[54:55] show you

[54:55] how it's

[54:56] done

Stuart Wellington

[54:56] hey Rookie

[55:00] have a seat

[55:02] watch the

[55:03] master at

[55:04] work

Elliott Kalan

[55:04] I got

[55:07] two mortgages

[55:08] to pay

[55:08] here kid

[55:09] sell this

[55:10] hard candy

[55:11] to this

[55:11] old asshole

[55:11] come on

[55:12] in fella

[55:12] come on

[55:13] in

[55:13] he's gonna

[55:14] be eating

[55:15] the candy

[55:15] out of my

[55:15] hand

[55:16] I don't

[55:17] know if I

[55:18] should buy

[55:18] that much

[55:18] candy

[55:19] I should

[55:19] talk to

[55:19] my wife

[55:20] first

[55:20] oh

[55:20] your wife

[55:21] makes the

[55:21] decisions

[55:22] so I

[55:22] should be

[55:23] talking to

[55:23] her

[55:23] oh fuck

[55:23] it

[55:24] I'll buy

[55:24] this

[55:24] candy

[55:24] see that's

[55:25] how you

[55:25] do it

[55:26] son

[55:26] he drives

[55:29] away in a

[55:29] Cadillac

[55:29] commissions

[55:30] son it's

[55:31] all about

[55:31] commissions

[55:31] yeah

[55:33] ABC always

[55:35] be candy

Dan McCoy

[55:36] imagine one

[55:37] giant Werther's

[55:39] in the middle

[55:39] of the showroom

[55:40] on the pedestal

[55:41] slowly rotating

[55:42] there's a

Elliott Kalan

[55:45] there's a

Elliott Kalan

[55:45] there's a

[55:45] there's the

[55:46] sales chart

[55:46] in the back

[55:47] who's pushed

[55:47] the most

[55:48] Werther's

[55:49] an old man

[55:52] walks in

[55:53] they're all

[55:53] fighting over

[55:53] each other

[55:54] to get there

[55:54] first

[55:54] well guys

[55:57] we've had

[55:58] a lot of

[55:58] laughs

[55:58] there's only

[55:59] two more

[56:00] two more

[56:00] summer movies

[56:00] to look at

[56:01] this next

[56:02] one is

[56:02] going to be

[56:02] just as

[56:03] funny

[56:03] that's

[56:03] right

[56:04] it's

[56:04] suddenly

[56:04] last

[56:05] summer

[56:05] have you

[56:07] have you

[56:07] seen this

[56:08] movie

[56:08] are you

[56:08] familiar

[56:08] with the

[56:09] story of

[56:09] suddenly

[56:10] last summer

Dan McCoy

[56:10] I think

[56:11] it's on

[56:12] criterion

[56:12] right now

[56:13] I think

[56:13] I looked

[56:14] at it

[56:14] and was

[56:15] like

[56:15] do I

[56:15] want to

[56:15] watch

[56:15] this

[56:16] maybe

[56:16] now this

[56:17] is based

[56:18] on the play

Elliott Kalan

[56:18] by Tennessee

[56:19] Williams

[56:19] are you

[56:20] familiar with

[56:21] the story

[56:21] of it

[56:21] at all

[56:22] suddenly

[56:22] last

[56:22] summer

[56:23] no

[56:23] I don't

[56:24] think

[56:24] so

[56:24] and it's

[56:25] not

[56:25] it's

[56:25] not like

[56:26] suddenly

[56:26] Seymour

[56:26] which is

[56:27] a different

[56:28] thing

[56:28] entirely

[56:28] not to

[56:30] spoil it

[56:30] for you

[56:30] suddenly

[56:30] last

[56:31] summer

[56:31] is

[56:31] the

[56:31] story

[56:31] of a

[56:32] young

[56:32] woman

[56:32] dealing

[56:32] with

[56:33] the

[56:33] trauma

[56:33] of a

[56:34] violent

[56:35] murder

[56:36] that she saw

Stuart Wellington

[56:40] what they

[56:42] did

Elliott Kalan

[56:42] she

[56:42] well

[56:43] she's

[56:43] dealing

[56:43] with it

[56:44] and

[56:44] her

[56:45] other

[56:46] members

[56:46] her

[56:46] mother

[56:47] I believe

[56:47] it is

[56:47] is

[56:47] refused

[56:48] it

[56:48] is

[56:49] it's

[56:50] about

[56:50] the

[56:50] death

[56:50] of her

[56:50] cousin

[56:51] after

[56:52] her

[56:52] cousin's

[56:52] dissolute

[56:53] summer

[56:53] of

[56:54] debauchery

[56:55] and her

[56:55] mother

[56:55] is trying

[56:56] to get

[56:56] has

[56:56] institutionalized

[56:57] her

[56:57] because

[56:58] she

[56:58] refused

[56:58] to admit

[56:58] that

[56:59] what

[57:00] her

[57:00] daughter

[57:01] remembers

[57:01] actually

[57:01] happened

[57:02] you know

[57:02] it is

[57:04] a

[57:04] it's

[57:04] a

[57:04] harrowing

[57:05] tale

[57:05] of

[57:06] psychic

[57:07] trauma

[57:08] you guys

[57:09] haven't seen

[57:09] it is

[57:10] this

[57:10] what

[57:10] your

[57:10] summers

[57:10] are

[57:11] like

[57:11] no

[57:12] so

[57:15] summer

[57:16] lovers

[57:16] suddenly

[57:16] less

[57:17] summer

[57:17] both

[57:17] equally

[57:18] different

[57:18] than

[57:19] your

[57:19] summer

[57:19] experiences

Dan McCoy

[57:20] yeah

[57:20] my

[57:20] psychic

[57:21] trauma

[57:21] is

[57:21] just

[57:21] kind

[57:22] of

[57:22] a

[57:22] low

[57:22] level

[57:22] sort

[57:23] of

[57:23] constant

[57:24] dissatisfaction

[57:26] and alienation

[57:27] I don't

[57:28] you know

[57:28] I don't

[57:28] feel like

[57:28] it's

[57:29] tied

[57:29] to

Elliott Kalan

[57:29] it's

[57:30] it's

[57:30] not

[57:30] in

[57:30] any

[57:30] way

[57:30] tied

[57:31] to

[57:31] mass

[57:31] cannibalism

[57:32] or

[57:32] anything

Dan McCoy

[57:32] right

[57:33] wait

[57:33] what

Elliott Kalan

[57:33] that's

[57:34] what

[57:34] that's

[57:34] about

[57:34] I'm

[57:35] not

[57:35] going

[57:39] there's

[57:41] a part

Stuart Wellington

[57:41] of me

[57:41] that wishes

[57:42] I had

[57:42] like

[57:43] like a

[57:43] Cadillac

[57:44] of trauma

[57:44] like a

[57:45] crazy thing

[57:46] instead of

[57:46] like

[57:47] oh yeah

[57:48] I just

[57:49] have to

[57:49] deal with

[57:49] the stuff

[57:50] I've

[57:50] inherited

[57:50] from my

[57:51] parents

[57:51] I think

[57:51] it's

Elliott Kalan

[57:52] very easy

[57:52] for

[57:53] people to

[57:53] desire

[57:54] something

[57:54] that's

[57:54] more

[57:55] distinctive

[57:55] than what

[57:56] they have

[57:56] but it's

[57:57] probably

[57:57] better not

[57:57] to have

[57:58] a Cadillac

[57:58] of trauma

[57:59] I mean

[57:59] you're

[57:59] probably

[58:00] right

[58:00] don't

[58:01] go to

[58:01] the

[58:02] and do

[58:02] not

[58:02] go to

[58:03] the guy

[58:03] who used

[58:03] to sell

[58:03] Werther's

[58:04] at the

[58:05] Cadillac

[58:06] of trauma

[58:06] dealership

[58:07] and he's

[58:08] going to

[58:08] get you

[58:08] in a

[58:08] Cadillac

[58:09] full of

[58:09] bad

[58:09] traumatic

[58:10] experiences

[58:11] you don't

[58:11] want that

[58:12] he's

[58:12] too good

[58:12] a salesman

[58:13] you know

[58:13] so suddenly

[58:15] last summer

[58:15] would you

[58:16] want this

[58:16] to be

[58:16] what

[58:17] happens

[58:17] to you

[58:17] that you

[58:17] had a

[58:17] summer

[58:18] that was

[58:18] so

[58:18] traumatizing

[58:19] that you

[58:19] were in

[58:19] a mental

[58:20] institution

[58:20] now

[58:20] and your

[58:21] mother

[58:21] wants to

[58:21] have a

[58:22] lobotomist

[58:23] cut the

[58:23] memories

[58:23] out of

[58:24] your

[58:24] brain

Dan McCoy

[58:24] well

[58:24] that part

[58:25] yeah I

[58:28] am always

[58:29] looking for

[58:29] like an

[58:30] easy way

[58:30] to

[58:31] solve my

[58:33] problems

[58:33] they're just

Stuart Wellington

[58:34] going to

[58:34] eternal

[58:34] sunshine

[58:35] me

[58:35] okay

[58:35] yeah

Dan McCoy

[58:36] no it

[58:37] sounds

[58:37] pretty bad

[58:38] no that

[58:38] seems horrible

[58:39] that might be

Stuart Wellington

[58:39] the worst

[58:40] one you've

[58:40] suggested

[58:41] yet

Elliott Kalan

[58:41] okay that

[58:42] one's

[58:42] pretty

[58:42] I think

[58:43] so worse

[58:43] than I

[58:44] know what

[58:44] you did

[58:45] last summer

[58:45] where you

[58:46] killed

[58:46] someone and

[58:47] you're on

[58:47] the run

[58:47] from

[58:48] yeah

Stuart Wellington

[58:48] because like

[58:48] you get

[58:49] to be a

[58:49] teenage

[58:50] hard body

Elliott Kalan

[58:50] that's true

[58:52] you do get

[58:52] to be a

[58:53] teenage

[58:53] hard

[58:53] I mean I

[58:53] don't know

[58:54] you just

[58:54] become the

[58:55] character from

[58:55] I know you

[58:56] did last

[58:56] summer

[58:56] we're not

[58:58] morphing

[58:59] I mean

[59:00] everybody's

[59:01] morphing

[59:01] these days

[59:02] everybody's

[59:04] morphing

[59:04] these days

[59:05] so that's

[59:07] so suddenly

[59:07] last summer

[59:08] let's say

[59:08] let's not do

[59:09] that also

[59:09] it's not what

[59:10] my summers

[59:10] were like

[59:11] either

[59:11] I had my

[59:12] share of

[59:12] unpleasant

[59:13] summers

[59:13] but they were

[59:14] not that

[59:15] bad

[59:15] you know

[59:15] finally

[59:17] there's one

[59:17] last movie

[59:18] on here

[59:18] uh oh

[59:18] this one

[59:19] snuck in

[59:20] because it

[59:20] has summer

[59:20] in the title

[59:21] that's right

[59:22] it's 500

[59:23] days of

[59:23] summer

[59:24] it has to

[59:25] encompass

[59:25] summer in

[59:25] some way

[59:26] because it's

[59:26] 500 days

[59:27] that's more

[59:27] than a year

[59:28] yeah

[59:28] so this movie

[59:30] have you guys

[59:30] seen 500

[59:31] days of

[59:32] summer

[59:32] I'm not

[59:32] saying the

[59:32] parentheses

[59:33] I apologize

[59:33] 500 days

[59:34] of summer

[59:34] yeah

Dan McCoy

[59:34] uh

[59:35] the premise

[59:36] is uh

[59:37] you jump

[59:38] around

[59:38] with a bunch

[59:39] of different

[59:39] days of

[59:40] the relationship

[59:41] uh between

[59:42] uh what's

[59:44] his face

[59:44] joseph gordon

[59:45] leavitt

[59:46] and zoe deschanel

[59:47] uh huh

[59:48] yeah

[59:48] you got a

[59:49] looper

Elliott Kalan

[59:49] and an

[59:50] adorkable

[59:50] in one movie

[59:51] um you've

[59:53] does it represent

[59:54] your your

[59:55] experience of

[59:56] summer

Dan McCoy

[59:56] I mean

[59:56] certainly

[59:57] having a

[59:58] crush on

[59:58] someone adorkable

[1:00:00] uh and then

[1:00:01] you did

[1:00:02] and then going

[1:00:02] to a party

[1:00:03] and hoping

[1:00:03] that things

[1:00:04] might turn out

[1:00:05] a certain way

[1:00:06] and then

[1:00:06] it not turning

[1:00:07] out well

[1:00:08] like those

[1:00:08] are the experiences

[1:00:09] I can relate to

[1:00:10] yeah

[1:00:11] what about you

[1:00:12] Stuart

Stuart Wellington

[1:00:12] and the uh

[1:00:13] the feeling of

[1:00:14] when things

[1:00:15] finally work out

[1:00:16] and you look

[1:00:16] at yourself

[1:00:16] in the mirror

[1:00:17] and you're

[1:00:17] Han Solo

[1:00:18] like that makes

[1:00:19] sense

[1:00:19] yeah

Elliott Kalan

[1:00:20] so I

[1:00:21] so

[1:00:21] I think

[1:00:22] and I

[1:00:23] similarly

[1:00:23] I feel like

[1:00:24] not necessarily

[1:00:24] a summer

[1:00:25] no it did

[1:00:26] have that

[1:00:26] over a summer

[1:00:26] once

[1:00:27] where it's like

[1:00:27] you have

[1:00:28] an unrequited

[1:00:29] crush on somebody

[1:00:30] and you're hoping

[1:00:31] that it works out

[1:00:31] and it doesn't

[1:00:32] work out

[1:00:32] um

[1:00:33] do you want

[1:00:34] this to be

[1:00:34] your summer

[1:00:34] do you want

[1:00:35] to experience

[1:00:36] that again

[1:00:37] uh

Dan McCoy

[1:00:38] well I mean

[1:00:39] it gets to be

[1:00:40] with Zooey Deschanel

[1:00:40] for a little while

[1:00:41] that's true

[1:00:42] good

Stuart Wellington

[1:00:44] so you're saying

[1:00:44] the the

[1:00:45] the dopamine

[1:00:46] highs are worth

[1:00:47] the crushing lows

[1:00:48] I mean that's

[1:00:49] I think that's

[1:00:49] kind of

[1:00:50] ultimately the moral

Dan McCoy

[1:00:51] of of the movie

[1:00:53] in a way

[1:00:53] isn't that life though

Stuart Wellington

[1:00:54] isn't that life

[1:00:55] you know

[1:00:55] the highs are worth

[1:00:56] the lows

[1:00:57] no no no

[1:00:57] I think it's better

[1:00:58] to armor myself

[1:00:59] in contempt

[1:01:00] and like

[1:01:00] nothing at all

[1:01:01] you would prefer

Elliott Kalan

[1:01:03] to have a thick

[1:01:04] layer of cynicism

[1:01:05] between you

[1:01:06] and reality

[1:01:06] so you can never

[1:01:07] be heard

[1:01:08] yeah

Stuart Wellington

[1:01:08] yeah

[1:01:08] well we've got

Elliott Kalan

[1:01:10] either side of the spectrum

Stuart Wellington

[1:01:11] turn me into concrete

[1:01:12] but for emotions

Elliott Kalan

[1:01:13] yeah not concrete

[1:01:15] who has a new book

[1:01:16] out right now

[1:01:16] there's a new concrete

[1:01:17] comic out

[1:01:17] for the first time

[1:01:18] in years

[1:01:18] not concrete

[1:01:19] oh he wrote

[1:01:19] something new

[1:01:20] yeah

[1:01:20] concrete the fictional

[1:01:21] character

[1:01:22] now has a new book

[1:01:23] out yeah

[1:01:23] but you want

[1:01:24] emotional concrete

[1:01:25] as opposed to

[1:01:25] concrete the character

[1:01:26] who is

[1:01:26] his body

[1:01:27] is made of

[1:01:28] concrete

[1:01:28] but he's actually

[1:01:29] very vulnerable

[1:01:29] yeah he's very vulnerable

[1:01:30] yeah

[1:01:31] yeah

[1:01:31] I could totally see him

[1:01:32] in a 500 days of summer

[1:01:33] type scenario

[1:01:34] easily

[1:01:34] yeah

[1:01:35] very much so

[1:01:36] and it's hard for him

[1:01:37] to fall in love

[1:01:37] because his body

[1:01:38] is made of concrete

[1:01:39] he's you know

[1:01:40] he would crush a human being

[1:01:41] when he tried to hug him

Stuart Wellington

[1:01:42] even

[1:01:43] would provide challenges

[1:01:45] and when he meets

[1:01:46] a woman made out of concrete

[1:01:47] they're just not his type

Elliott Kalan

[1:01:48] yeah that's the

[1:01:50] that's the worst part

[1:01:50] yeah yeah

Dan McCoy

[1:01:51] people assume

[1:01:52] just because

[1:01:53] they keep trying

[1:01:53] to push them together

[1:01:54] you keep trying

Elliott Kalan

[1:01:55] to match us up

[1:01:55] because we're both

[1:01:56] concretes

[1:01:56] but you know

[1:01:57] doesn't work

[1:01:58] you think I listen

[1:01:59] to music concrete

[1:01:59] all the time

[1:02:00] when I don't

[1:02:01] well guys

[1:02:03] so if I can sum up

[1:02:04] what we've learned

[1:02:05] about summer

[1:02:05] is you would like

[1:02:07] your summer

[1:02:07] to be crazy

Dan McCoy

[1:02:08] sexy

[1:02:11] cool

Elliott Kalan

[1:02:11] you would not like

[1:02:14] to have any sort

[1:02:16] of murder involved

[1:02:17] you don't want

[1:02:17] a serial killer

[1:02:18] running around

[1:02:19] to hit someone

[1:02:19] with their car

[1:02:20] and have revenge

[1:02:21] to be eaten alive

[1:02:23] any of those things

[1:02:24] to happen

[1:02:24] wait there that happens

[1:02:25] you would not mind

[1:02:27] being around monsters

[1:02:28] on a cruise

[1:02:29] and you want

[1:02:30] to have sex

[1:02:31] but you want

[1:02:32] to have sex

[1:02:32] with someone

[1:02:32] that you're not

[1:02:33] going to regret it

[1:02:34] with after later

[1:02:35] because it leaves

[1:02:36] an emotional

[1:02:36] you know

[1:02:37] aftertaste

[1:02:37] that's bitter

[1:02:38] usually one of the

Dan McCoy

[1:02:38] top ways to do it

Elliott Kalan

[1:02:39] so I think

[1:02:43] you know what

[1:02:43] I think

[1:02:45] I think we can

[1:02:45] make that happen

[1:02:46] you guys

[1:02:46] I think

[1:02:47] I can't provide

[1:02:48] it for you

[1:02:49] but I think

[1:02:49] I thought we were

Stuart Wellington

[1:02:51] talking to the salesman

[1:02:51] again

[1:02:52] he can put us

[1:02:52] in this

[1:02:52] summer is here

[1:02:55] today

Elliott Kalan

[1:02:56] what does it

[1:02:57] take to get you

[1:02:58] to drive away

[1:02:58] in a crazy sexy

[1:02:59] summer

[1:02:59] what's it going

[1:03:00] to take

Dan McCoy

[1:03:00] no no no

[1:03:01] now that we know

[1:03:02] now that we've

[1:03:02] examined what we

[1:03:03] want out of summer

[1:03:04] we can go out

[1:03:05] and get it

Elliott Kalan

[1:03:06] you can go out

[1:03:07] exactly

[1:03:08] because the first step

[1:03:09] of getting what you

[1:03:09] want is

[1:03:10] knowing what you

[1:03:11] want

[1:03:11] listeners

[1:03:11] I know what

[1:03:12] you want

[1:03:13] what you want

[1:03:14] is to tell other

[1:03:15] people about the

[1:03:15] Flophouse podcast

[1:03:16] why not leave us

[1:03:17] a review

[1:03:18] on the podcast

[1:03:19] app of your

[1:03:19] choice

[1:03:20] make it a

[1:03:20] five star review

[1:03:21] why not

[1:03:21] be generous

[1:03:22] come on

[1:03:23] you only live once

[1:03:23] let's get crazy

[1:03:24] with it

[1:03:24] come on

[1:03:24] it's the summer

[1:03:25] let's get crazy

[1:03:26] and sexy

[1:03:26] it's the summer

[1:03:27] yeah come on

Dan McCoy

[1:03:28] and I took

[1:03:28] some well deserved

[1:03:30] heat on the

[1:03:31] discord for

[1:03:31] recommending the

[1:03:33] discord without

[1:03:33] telling people how

[1:03:34] they could

[1:03:35] go to the

[1:03:36] discord

[1:03:36] I'm like

[1:03:36] I forget

[1:03:37] it's a

[1:03:38] lastnamewithheld.com

[1:03:39] is the easy

[1:03:41] link to get to

[1:03:42] the Flophouse

[1:03:43] discord

[1:03:44] it's a real

Elliott Kalan

[1:03:44] nice place

[1:03:45] for conversation

[1:03:45] the people there

[1:03:47] are real

[1:03:47] friendly

[1:03:48] tell them Dan

[1:03:49] sent you

[1:03:50] now that you

[1:03:50] know what the

[1:03:51] URL is

[1:03:52] to get to it

[1:03:53] when he actually

[1:03:54] sends it

[1:03:54] yeah

[1:03:54] this show

[1:03:55] who has provided

[1:03:56] us with this

[1:03:57] with all the

[1:03:58] summer help

[1:03:59] all the summer

[1:03:59] schooling and

[1:04:00] summer jobs

[1:04:00] for this one

[1:04:01] why

[1:04:01] it's Alex

[1:04:02] Smith

[1:04:03] you may know

[1:04:03] him better

[1:04:03] as Howell

[1:04:04] Doughty

[1:04:04] he's going to

[1:04:04] be with us

[1:04:05] in Louisville

[1:04:05] Kentucky

[1:04:05] on Friday

[1:04:06] September 18th

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[1:04:33] for being members

[1:04:33] we appreciate it

[1:04:34] thanks for keeping

[1:04:35] the lights on

[1:04:36] and the air

[1:04:37] conditioning on as well

[1:04:38] because this summer

[1:04:38] has been hot

[1:04:40] we'll be back with you

[1:04:41] next week

[1:04:42] with another

[1:04:43] full length episode

[1:04:44] of the Flophouse

[1:04:44] where we will watch

[1:04:45] a bad movie

[1:04:45] and then talk about it

[1:04:46] until then

[1:04:48] I hope you've been

[1:04:48] having a great summer

[1:04:49] I've been Elliot Kalin

[1:04:51] and I've been joined by

[1:04:52] Dan McCoy

[1:04:53] and summertime

[1:04:54] Stuart Wellington

[1:04:55] stay cool

[1:04:57] see you next year

[1:04:58] at school

[1:04:58] bye dudes

[1:04:59] and also next week

Stuart Wellington

[1:05:00] oh and next week

[1:05:01] yeah

[1:05:01] Maximum Fun

Dan McCoy

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[1:05:09] of artist owned shows

[1:05:11] supported

[1:05:12] directly

[1:05:13] by you

FH Mini 155 - Summer-y Judgments

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