FH Mini 74 - Tuboy Talkin' Tube to 2 Dudes Today, Yes Way

[0:00] Hey, that's right, thanks for tuning in, this is another Flophouse Mini, it's a little different

[0:09] than a regular episode of the Flophouse podcast where we watch a movie and talk about it.

[0:14] On a Flophouse Mini, we kind of do whatever we want and of course, we have a special one

[0:17] today for you folks, that's right, we are doing an episode of Two Boy Talking Tube to

[0:23] two dudes today, yes way and you're probably asking yourself, you're probably asking yourself

[0:29] changing, two boys, well two boys, me, Stuart Wellington, you're probably wondering two

[0:34] dudes and that's right, I'm joined by my two favorite dudes, Dan McCoy and Elliot Kalin,

[0:38] why don't you introduce yourself guys, I think you did it, it's us, Dan McCoy, it's me, Elliot

[0:44] Kalin, this voice is Elliot Kalin, I can say my own name but thank you Dan, I appreciate

[0:48] it, well, I mean, we'd already, you know, had so many redundancies built into the system,

[0:52] I figured, you know, one more couldn't hurt, it's safety, I like it, that's why they call

[0:56] you safety first, McCoy, so we're talking tube and you guys are both, tube obviously

[1:02] means television, you guys are both professional television writers, so you're going to be

[1:06] able to help me and answer my questions and we're doing this today because normally we

[1:10] record episodes at night, not today, we're recording this on Monday afternoon and boys,

[1:14] let me tell you, do I have a case of the Mondays, how about you, I guess, I mean, not really

[1:22] because although as you correctly identify, we have been television writers, neither of

[1:27] us is currently working on, but we remain television writers, it's not like, if like,

[1:34] when someone is between jobs, they don't stop having that profession, right, sure, sure,

[1:39] but I'm saying the case of the Mondays, I was a lawyer, I hope to be a lawyer again

[1:43] someday but at the moment, I currently am not a lawyer, that kind of thing, yeah, I

[1:46] mean, I do do more, Schrodinger's job, I do do more work during, you know, like normal

[1:53] office hours still, but I'm not going anywhere, having the usual Mondays, case of the Mondays

[1:58] problems that Stuart is talking about, I have the opposite, I'm having a manic Monday, it's

[2:03] just another manic Monday, I don't wish it was Sunday, that's not my fun day, my fun

[2:07] day would be Saturday, of course, the Saturdays, it's the Sabbath and my fun is in praying,

[2:13] also, Saturday night when the Sabbath is over is alright for fighting, that song is

[2:17] about how you can fight on Saturday night because the Sabbath is over at sundown and

[2:20] you can finally turn on lights, drive cars to where you're fighting, turn on the headlights

[2:24] so you can see the fight circle, you know, or if you put a string around the person you

[2:28] want to fight, that's also permitted, I believe, I mean, you'd have to talk to a rabbi for

[2:32] that and especially a rabbi who likes Elton John, and so, just to keep everybody appraised

[2:40] of the situation, we have one Garfield, two non-Garfields here, and when I talk about

[2:45] Garfield, of course, I don't necessarily mean Andrew Garfield, although, from what I can

[2:50] tell, he does love lasagna, he does hate Mondays, his opinion's unnormal, undecided.

[2:55] Okay.

[2:56] He's never talked about it on the record, as far as I know, maybe off the record, but

[3:00] yeah.

[3:01] Yeah, you said from what you can tell and I was wondering what data points maybe you

[3:03] were looking at.

[3:04] Sure.

[3:05] Body language, mainly, the clothes he chooses to wear, etc.

[3:09] Okay.

[3:10] So, here on Two Boy Talking Tube to Two Dudes Today, yes way, we are going to be talking

[3:15] about some important television gossip, we're going to be talking about some hot news, I'm

[3:22] going to get your thoughts on some of the hot news shows that are going on, we're going

[3:26] to talk about what we're watching, of course, at the end, we're going to wrap it all up

[3:30] with a talk of the talk of the town, that's right, the big game that was on TV, the biggest

[3:36] tube event of all.

[3:37] Okay.

[3:38] So, everyone's been waiting anxiously for our one week late wrap up about the event

[3:44] we usually don't talk about at all.

[3:46] Yeah.

[3:47] Yep.

[3:48] Yeah, you nailed it.

[3:49] Thanks.

[3:50] Just thought I'd help sell it to the listener.

[3:52] Yeah.

[3:53] We're going to be talking about the, we're starting off with the most important thing,

[3:55] the thing that people have been bugging me incessantly on social media about is back

[4:01] in Flophouse episode, I think it's episode, we called it episode 55, I think it was in

[4:06] the 90s or something, but it was the 55th full episode where we reviewed the Gerard

[4:12] Butler, Katherine Heigl movie, The Ugly Truth, I suggested a little something that we should

[4:19] do.

[4:20] Who would it be on Night Court?

[4:21] The bailiff?

[4:22] Not the bailiff.

[4:23] Yeah, he's not in trouble.

[4:24] Mac?

[4:25] Yeah, yeah, Mac, that's who he'd be.

[4:26] Wait, would I get to be?

[4:27] No.

[4:28] You'd be Harry and I'd be John Larracat, right?

[4:29] Yeah, of course.

[4:30] Ray and Felix, sure.

[4:31] Of course.

[4:32] That sounds awesome.

[4:33] Yeah.

[4:34] I'd be okay being Mac.

[4:36] Yeah, I'll start up the holodeck.

[4:39] We could have our Night Court adventure.

[4:42] Can we do that?

[4:43] What does that even mean?

[4:44] Is some dude with a Tommy gun gonna show up and just shoot you?

[4:49] It's a holodeck, yeah.

[4:50] A Tommy gun or, you know, Sherlock Holmes or something.

[4:53] Can we do that?

[4:54] What does it mean?

[4:55] I don't know what you're asking.

[4:58] Stewart wants someone to build us a Night Court set and we would get some old Night

[5:05] Court scripts, I think, and we would just live inside Night Court.

[5:09] Sounds good.

[5:10] As you can hear, I suggest that we do Night Court.

[5:14] To which case, you guys both laughed at me like I was some kind of fool or a madman,

[5:19] but you know what?

[5:20] Somebody at NBC just did that shit.

[5:22] That's right.

[5:23] It's true, someone.

[5:24] There's a Night Court reboot or sequel?

[5:26] What would you call this, guys?

[5:27] Well, everything's called a reboot now, even if it is, as this one is, a sequel since John

[5:32] Larroquette is playing the same character later in life as he is indeed the same actor

[5:36] later in life.

[5:37] And the judge is supposed to be Harry Stone's daughter, is my understanding.

[5:42] Now, Stewart, still, I mean, I still argue that we could not have, in fact, done Night

[5:48] Court.

[5:49] For one thing, we didn't have the rights to Night Court.

[5:52] Also, not the resources, to be sure.

[5:54] Yeah, no packaging deals to put together.

[5:57] We did have access to the number one Night Court fan, Hallie Haglund, however.

[6:01] So in that way, we could have, I guess, she could have told us how to do Night Court.

[6:06] But yeah, she'd be a great, you know, a great post character.

[6:10] But I think, Stewart, you're making the same mistaken fallacy that the purchasers of the

[6:15] Jodorowsky Dune storyboard book made when they raised millions in order to buy the one

[6:21] of the few remaining storyboard books for Jodorowsky's plans for Dune.

[6:25] And they thought this gave them the ability to make a movie of Dune, not realizing that

[6:29] Dune is a copyrighted work.

[6:31] The rights had already been sold and that it would cost a lot of money just to buy those

[6:36] rights, let alone to produce a film of it.

[6:38] That owning the script of the movie did not mean you could just automatically make the

[6:42] movie.

[6:43] So just having an idea of Night Court doesn't mean we can do Night Court.

[6:46] On the other hand, and here's where I say you had the right idea, we could have done

[6:51] the People's Night Court.

[6:52] We would have scooped the People's Joker and just done our version of Night Court.

[6:56] Couldn't have shown it at festivals.

[6:57] Couldn't have shown it at festivals.

[6:58] Cease and desist letter.

[6:59] I mean, we would probably have showed it at a festival initially and then we'd receive

[7:02] a cease and desist letter from who owns the rights to Night Court, NBC, John Larroquette.

[7:07] I have to assume John Larroquette and maybe Harry Anderson was still alive at the time,

[7:12] I believe, that this episode was recorded.

[7:14] So he could have come after us.

[7:15] And then the headlines write themselves.

[7:17] Using his magic, his wizardry.

[7:20] The headlines would have said, Night Court has its day in court.

[7:25] And it would be us being sued by the creator and stars of Night Court.

[7:29] We should have done it.

[7:30] I would have looked so sad, but then when I beat the charges, I would have been praying

[7:35] harder than everybody.

[7:36] And then we sell the rights to the TV version of our life story as the guys who tried to

[7:42] do Night Court and couldn't get away with it.

[7:45] By the way, for listeners at home, I know that we've started to put out little video

[7:50] clips of episodes, but not whole episodes.

[7:54] So a lot of the visuals still remain a mystery.

[7:57] I enjoyed that as soon as Alex started Night Court explaining to Stuart, he took a big

[8:03] bite of banana, both in defiance, I think, there's a certain defiant quality to the way

[8:08] he ate that banana, and also knowing that he would have plenty of time to chew and swallow

[8:13] that banana before it was required to eat.

[8:15] I like to think it was not defiance, Dan, but that much as that banana would impart

[8:19] potassium to him, he knew that I was imparting valuable knowledge nutrients to him.

[8:24] Powering up for the battle to come.

[8:27] So I brought up Night Court.

[8:29] Obviously, somebody at NBC is a big listener of the show and got an idea from us.

[8:34] It's okay.

[8:35] You don't need to pay us.

[8:36] You know, just keep listening.

[8:37] You know, Dan, listen to me.

[8:39] It's not the first time.

[8:41] It's happening everywhere all at once.

[8:42] Most nominated movie at the Academy Awards this year.

[8:44] Clearly listeners, because they picked up my raccoon that was cut out of Ratatouille

[8:48] bit for that movie.

[8:49] So the Flophouse is a real is a real influencer that way.

[8:53] If you want to make it up to us, we could be like, you know, three podcasters appearing

[8:57] in Night Court on some sort of podcast dispute.

[9:00] Sure.

[9:01] Yeah.

[9:02] Yeah.

[9:03] Have you have you guys I mean, the most important question is, have you guys watched the new

[9:06] Night Court yet?

[9:07] I haven't watched it yet.

[9:08] I imagine we'd be three podcasters arrested for patronizing a prostitute.

[9:11] Since most of the cases are just prostitutes.

[9:14] But I haven't seen it yet.

[9:16] I have not seen it.

[9:17] Dan, have you?

[9:18] I watched the first third of it.

[9:20] And then I thought to myself, well, Audrey and I are always looking for the first third

[9:25] of the first episode of the reboot.

[9:27] And I thought to myself, three hours long now.

[9:30] Yes.

[9:32] I was just say one third of an episode.

[9:34] I would say not a statistical sample for judging.

[9:36] You have a story.

[9:37] You have a story.

[9:38] All of what I'm saying will make sense if I'm allowed to say.

[9:40] I don't think we're going to do that.

[9:42] Objection.

[9:43] Objection.

[9:44] I don't think anyone wants to let Dan finish his story.

[9:45] Judge Wellington, what do you say?

[9:47] I mean, fair enough.

[9:48] It's not that great.

[9:49] I don't care.

[9:50] He can tell the story.

[9:52] OK, so you're overruling my objection.

[9:54] Yeah.

[9:55] Dan is, you know, sometimes Dan stories take us on adventures to Ikea.

[9:58] So I want to hear it.

[10:00] Where we all get mad at each other

[10:02] No, I started watching it. I thought to myself

[10:04] You know what Audrey and I are always looking for something light to watch short to watch funny to watch

[10:09] It can't all be severance all day long. Yeah. Yeah, maybe this is something that we are eventually gonna want to watch together, although

[10:17] Perhaps not because I'm like, you know, unlike me. She has no fond memories of the original night court

[10:22] So she was just a baby. Yeah, if that

[10:25] If the show starts shakily

[10:28] I feel like my fond memories may pull me through until it finds its footing, but if it's not immediately amusing

[10:34] It may not be the show for hers

[10:38] Yeah, I've been watching it

[10:40] Charlene and I are both fans of the original show and you know, we there's a soft spot for that style of sitcom

[10:47] They haven't not to spoil too much, but they haven't explained

[10:51] About bull being abducted by aliens yet

[10:56] Seemed about it. Well, they haven't taught like he hasn't like come back or aliens haven't shown up or they haven't addressed that like

[11:02] Oh, yeah, he disappeared one day like they don't talk about the most the most hanging cliffhanger from the original series

[11:08] You think I've suffered blisters? We're not familiar with nightcourt

[11:10] Bulls the what bailiff he was taken away by aliens at the end of the last

[11:16] Explain it to me because there's an assumption that I to

[11:19] Remember the last episode of nightcourt

[11:23] You're like you're a big night head like you're you're full at your love night

[11:28] I am NOT. I am NOT aware of each individual characters and like animal house style

[11:34] Like what happens if you're gonna remember any of them?

[11:37] It's the one where the character is got a short aliens say you'll be the guy that can reach the high

[11:44] What a crossover that would have been if only no

[11:47] I think were they actually where those those were both NBC shows, weren't they? Yeah. Yeah, I think so. So

[11:52] Yeah, okay. So nightcourt, it's good. I'm enjoying it and it's coming back. It's getting renewed

[11:58] So let's go to some ripped from the headlines folks

[12:02] please

[12:04] Actor Penn Badgley, that's a favorite of Dan's from the TV show. Yeah

[12:10] Pennsylvania

[12:12] Has said no no no to sex scenes

[12:15] In order to be better in his marriage as you guys are both actors

[12:20] Do you find that intimate scenes make it hard on your relationships?

[12:24] Is this a question from a different interview that you were conducting with other people or?

[12:30] Daily show before yeah, I was not required to kiss anyone. I mean like even a slow dance for someone once

[12:37] A play where I had a kiss you saw it. It was hair

[12:42] I'm do that mess with your relationship. Damn. I was not currently

[12:48] So this is not really an issue that I've had a lot of experience with I do think it's kind of look

[12:53] I think it's kind of why you were the star of hair

[12:55] Yeah, I guess that makes sense that when you're the star of hair you want to be you want to be single you want to

[13:00] Be available, right? Yeah. Yeah

[13:02] You want to have your options open the minute that the curtain falls and people are rushing the stage

[13:07] There's so many people at the stage door waiting for me with demanding your love, yeah

[13:13] Yeah, I mean I do think it's a little a little odd to you know

[13:17] That's part of an actor's job to do that. I think I think any reasonable

[13:23] Actor understands that and any reasonable spouse understands that but I understand if like on a personal level you're like, you know what?

[13:29] If this isn't necessary

[13:31] I'll ask for it

[13:33] Like this is one of these stories that has gotten a lot of play and I'm like, I don't know

[13:38] It's just it seems like something that's he yes

[13:41] Okay, cool. Does he has he done a lot of love scenes previously in his work?

[13:46] Well, I mean the show is all about a show about him stalking and killing people. Yeah, but there's like yes, but for love

[13:53] He's like Dexter if instead of killing serial killers. He just killed women

[13:58] Yeah

[14:00] One of those things where it's like it was like Jamie Dornan at one point was talking about to prepare for his roles Christian Grey

[14:06] He went to some like sex clubs

[14:09] To like kind of see what that lifestyles about and he he said he had to like go take a shower

[14:14] Before he could spend time with his family just to get through that and I'm like dog

[14:18] You're in a show where you play a fucking serial killer

[14:21] Yeah

[14:23] Go and hang out with serial killers probably to prepare for it. I don't know him

[14:28] To give Elliot a little background you is like, I mean it's gone through a lot of iteration. Yeah, right. What is I?

[14:38] It's gone through a lot of iterations and the original season it was about someone who yeah, it was a stalker

[14:43] it's kind of a

[14:45] soap opera drama

[14:47] Satire thriller, okay, you know a toxic person who like

[14:53] Avenger it's a lot like toxic Avenger. Yeah, it's a lot like toxi like he fell into some sewage. He's a janitor kinda

[15:02] rips people's arms off it starts out as sort of like an extreme exact examination of like a toxic nice guy because he is

[15:10] The extremist and that he murders people and then and then like all shows the premise falls away and it's just a workplace comedy now

[15:20] I don't want to spoil all the twists and turns for listeners who may go on to watch you

[15:26] I know that you probably won't Elliot watch me

[15:28] Yeah, hopefully well

[15:32] Knew I shouldn't have bought this Chinese made television with the camera turned on all the time

[15:36] Yeah, I think you have one the house from 13 ghosts at auction I

[15:42] Think over time it kind of becomes like

[15:46] You know the way that the Tom Ripley Highsmith novels like go off in a bunch of different directions off of like this

[15:51] like a moral guy who's not afraid to murder when backed into a corner and

[15:57] This most recent season is very funny to me because he's like off in England and he is among these

[16:03] These like his wealthy like evil wealthy friends and I tweeted about it because it's funny to me that they have these dinner parties where

[16:10] They're literally like, oh, do you think these poor people hate us because of all that we have?

[16:16] Oh, don't you want to hurt us? It's like maybe if they know the poor's let's

[16:21] you know pile them up and burn them and

[16:24] Like it's it's it's going so far and it's wanting to be like kind of this

[16:31] Class

[16:33] Conscious, you know soapy satire that's having rich people talk about poor people

[16:38] Then like the thing about rich people and the way they grind poor people under their heel is they don't think about yeah

[16:44] Like that's important. They're monstrous. They exist in support. They aren't like

[16:48] Let us turn our rich people

[16:51] Shrink rays on the poor and have them fight each other inside this bottle, you know, like I mean

[16:56] Do they do that on that show?

[17:00] That sounds great

[17:08] When Dan Dan has this interview to be a staff writer for you and they're like, so do you have any storyline ideas?

[17:15] Shrink ray, yeah shriek poor people make I brought a prop. It's a shrink ray

[17:22] Show like that already yes already does that show?

[17:25] Yes, the way when they were like they were like we have squid game

[17:28] It's a show about how these people are put through these horrible violent games and they're like, what if we do a show?

[17:33] That's just that what if we take the thing that's meant as torture in squid game and we make it its own show

[17:38] It seems like a like a moral mistake. So, uh, so he says he's not gonna do any love scenes

[17:43] Yeah, I would say to each their own Wow. Great. So

[17:47] Talking about love scenes, you know what holidays tomorrow guys? That's right. Valentine's Day the most loved scene of all holidays now

[17:54] So a lot of people like to spend their holidays watching TV or like like me

[18:00] I like to spend my Valentine's Day with somebody special wrapped up in a in like a robe maybe wearing a

[18:06] Moisturizing mask and watching Portrait of a Lady on Fire

[18:09] You're talking about meatball. Yes

[18:12] Yep

[18:13] It's muscles sits on my lap and yells at me if I'm not petting him and I'm like I'm trying to pay attention to this

[18:18] Love lovely movie. Okay, so we're gonna be talking about we're talking about you watching the cat version of it per trip

[18:24] I'm a lady on fire

[18:26] Per trip of a lady on fur. That's me. Oh, man, that'd be great adorable

[18:33] So, but we are talking today we're gonna talk about

[18:36] romantic couples in television shows and I'm going to list out

[18:41] Romantic pairings from television shows and you're going to tell me if you think they have chemistry or no chemistry

[18:47] Okay, so let's start. Let's start with a big one Sam and Diane Oh

[18:52] Chemistry it certainly I mean can't I mean the show told us they have chemistry, but I'm not so sure. You know what?

[18:58] I'm not so sure. I don't think that's that's not a relationship that I think would work in real life

[19:02] That's not what chemistry means Elliot

[19:05] I agree with chemistry with a lot of people who you wouldn't work out with long-term chemistry is you know chemists?

[19:11] I'm saying there's chemistry between Ted Danson and Shelly Long. That's what I'm talking between Sam and Diane. That's the thing

[19:17] I'm separating the characters from the performers if you had two different actors in that role if Sam was played by Ernest Forgnine and

[19:23] Diane was played by

[19:24] Cheetah Rivera, I don't see chemistry in that in that period if they're playing the same character doing the same lines, that's fine

[19:32] Okay, let's see

[19:33] Let's see if I am was played by was played by a wharf not the actor again

[19:37] Not but the character wharf and you're right Elliot and Diane was played by a spider

[19:42] I don't know. You're right. He's crazy. I'm pretty cool. They have terrible chemistry. I don't they don't have good chemistry

[19:48] okay, let's say Sam is played by JD Salinger good luck getting in front of a camera and

[19:54] Diane is played by Queen Elizabeth the second who has since died, but this is a time-travel thing so JD Salinger

[20:00] alive in this scenario. I don't think it's gonna work out. Same scripts and James Burroughs

[20:05] is still directing it. For the purposes of argument, let's say that Cheers exists as

[20:09] it does in our reality. And these characters are inexorably attached to the actors. I don't

[20:13] know if I can buy that proposition, Dan. That Cheers exists as it does. This rapid fire

[20:17] question game is taking, uh, it's gotten the weeds fast. Okay, next one is Ross and Rachel.

[20:24] Ross and Rachel. Chemistry or no chemistry? No chemistry. No. Okay, yeah, he's a creep

[20:28] anyway. Jim and Pam from The Office. I think they do. I found those characters by the end

[20:35] of the show that went on too long intolerable. But early on, yes, I think they had a lot

[20:40] of chemistry until the characters got married. And honestly, at that point, the characters

[20:44] kind of lost a lot of what was drawing them together. It happens in a lot of marriages.

[20:48] Jim, Pam, don't feel bad. It happens in a lot of marriages. Okay, what about Tim and

[20:52] Dawn from The Office? That's the UK. Uh, yeah, it's been a while, but yeah, sure. I

[20:59] haven't watched it in a long time. I don't really remember. Okay, what about Eleanor

[21:03] and Chidi from The Good Place? Uh, I would say no chemistry. This is a hard one. I would

[21:11] say that the actual chemistry is low, but to go to Elliot's, you know, flip side of

[21:16] this question, I do think that as a relationship, they seem strong. Okay, that's cute. All right.

[21:23] Fair. That's okay. Yeah. What about Leslie Knope and Ben Wyatt from Parks and Rec? Which

[21:27] one was Ben Wyatt? Was that Adam Scott? That's Adam Scott. Okay. I had stopped watching by

[21:31] that point, so I don't. Really? Wow. Parks and Rec, really good show, not a bad show.

[21:37] I would watch it and I'd be like, this is a funny show, but I wouldn't actually laugh

[21:40] at it. It just wasn't tickling my funny bone. It's like Sports Night. Yeah, I mean, I guess,

[21:47] I mean, Sports Night was less of a laugh-a-minute type comedy. So Elliot's explaining why he

[21:50] can't answer. Dan, do you have an answer? Uh, you know what? I'm going to say, yeah,

[21:55] they got a nice little rapport going, a little back and forth. Okay, home stretch here. April

[22:01] Ludgate and Andy Dwyer from Parks and Rec. That's Chris Pratt and Aubrey Plaza. I think

[22:10] they had chemistry early on. And then, did I watch when they were an actual couple? I

[22:14] don't remember. A lot of these characters in these shows, it's just the way these shows

[22:17] are built. They have a lot of chemistry before the characters are in a relationship with

[22:20] each other. And then once they're in a relationship, the writers of the show have trouble getting

[22:25] that relationship continuing because the entire dynamic before was, we're attracted to each

[22:30] other, but we're not together. Yeah. I mean, I think that this one would hinge on how you

[22:35] described chemistry. I didn't feel like there was ever a lot of heat between those characters,

[22:41] but they had a nice rapport. And this is Chris Pratt doing the Mario voice, right? Uh, so

[22:50] we got two left. First one is Buffy and Spike from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Uh, well, yes,

[22:58] I would say definitely. But Elliot, I assume you never watched it. I barely have watched

[23:03] that show. Yeah. Okay. I missed my window. I mean, I should have watched it when Joss

[23:06] Whedon was a god rather than when he was a devil. Yeah. Uh, Homer and Marge Simpson.

[23:12] Okay. Here's, this is, this is something that is going to sound strange. I'm going to say

[23:15] no chemistry except in the bedroom. They clearly are very sexually attracted to each other.

[23:20] Otherwise, the relationship does not work at all. Yeah. I do. I also get that sense

[23:24] that, uh, they actually, you know, they, they, they enjoy it. If Marge wasn't so, didn't

[23:31] need the HD so much then, uh, and yeah, I think it wouldn't, it wouldn't quite work,

[23:37] but I don't think that they are meant to be for all the episodes that are like them reaffirming

[23:41] their love at the end.

[23:42] I think part of the joke is that they are also not a great couple. Is that what HDTV

[23:47] is about? Homer's Dick. That's entirely what it's all about. It stands for Homer's Dick

[23:51] television. It was weird. I thought it was weird when Congress decreed that all new televisions

[23:54] made the United States had to be Homer's Dick capable, but you know, but that's the way

[24:00] they did it. So folks, we also, uh, let's talk about hot shows. There's a hot new show

[24:05] on HBO right now. Uh, the last of us, it's based on a video game. Now, LA, you're not

[24:09] much of a gamer. How does the pitch of life is based on a hit video game. How does that

[24:16] work for you? A show based on a hit video game. If somebody pitches it as this show

[24:22] is based on a hit video game, are you more likely or less likely to be interested? Entirely

[24:28] neutral. You've told me nothing about the premise, the characters, the tone of the show,

[24:32] and it could be based on Tetris for all I know. But Tetris is a hit and wouldn't you

[24:36] be very interested in how they turned Tetris into a television event? But you, but you'd

[24:40] have to mention it. You'd have to tell me what Tetris was and I'd be like, yeah, I'm

[24:44] an amateur to this as, as it is. I don't know much about the last of us. It's what

[24:47] a zombie thing. Uh, I gotta say zombie doubt on this side, the same way that I never thought

[24:53] it would happen to me, but I am zombie entertainment to doubt. I think it's going to take another

[24:57] few years from back to watching zombie things. Yeah. Can I answer this? I would say that

[25:01] no. Anyways, do move on to the next. Wow. Wow. Never give someone the opportunity. Never

[25:07] give someone the opening to deny you something. Just take it. Well, he directed the video

[25:12] game question to you. So I just wanted to say, I wanted to circle back to the video

[25:15] game question too. Like I also not a lot of video games, uh, probably slightly more than

[25:21] Elliot, but like, I think that that is a strike against it for me. And like Elliot as a child,

[25:27] zombies were my favorite of the like big monsters, loved zombie movies. Now, you know, as we've

[25:33] talked about it many times before, it feels like, uh, nerds have had a lot of monkey paws,

[25:38] which is granted. And, uh, yeah, I, I am sick of zombies and that those two things together

[25:45] have kept me away from last of us. Even though I hear that it's basically not a zombie show

[25:49] in the traditional sense and it's very good. Yeah. Dan, you're basically the brother-in-law

[25:54] character from the mummy franchise. We're in the first movie. He's terrified of mummies.

[25:58] The second one, he's like, Oh no mummies because he's aware of them. And then the third movie,

[26:03] he's like, Oh fuck mummies again. Like every character is constantly complaining that mummies

[26:08] have shown up and I'm like, that's what the movie's called guys. I like all these mummies.

[26:15] I've always liked that character arc from, from extreme fear to just total annoyance

[26:19] and irritation. He knows he's going to get through it. This is getting in his way. I

[26:23] think the, uh, maybe I'll watch it at some point that guys, this is going to be a, a,

[26:27] we don't even need to discuss this or debate it. Alex, feel free to cut this out if it's

[26:30] too controversial. I think there is a lower bar for what's considered a great television

[26:37] than for almost any other form of art or creative expression. And I would like to see

[26:42] television up its game a little bit. I feel like I've, there've been a lot of shows lately

[26:46] where people like, this is a great show. It's not just a good show. This is a great show that

[26:50] says something about the world. And then I watch it and I'm like, this is a good show and it's

[26:54] saying something, but it is at the level that novels have been exceeding or movies have been

[26:59] exceeding for a century or more. And so I wonder, you have to understand the, everybody is lit from

[27:05] above. So it makes everyone look a little bit weird and a little bit serious. They all look

[27:11] like they're in the character introduction screens of the pusher movies and it makes it super ominous.

[27:16] I hear you, Elliot, but here's a suggestion I will make to you that these people are using

[27:20] the word great colloquially to indicate I really like this show. No, but I don't think that I'm

[27:25] talking about even in like writing about shows and things like this, isn't just friends of mine

[27:28] being like, this is a great show or just the way that, uh, I, again, I didn't see the last of us.

[27:32] Maybe it's amazing how there was a recent episode where Twitter, everyone on my Twitter feed was

[27:36] like, oh, heartbreaking. That was the most amazing thing I've ever seen. That's the most

[27:41] amazing hour. And like that hyperbole at a certain point obviously becomes meaningless.

[27:46] But I said, I've said this on, I don't remember. I said on this podcast, I said another podcast

[27:50] recently, I think the most affecting creative experience I had last year was reading tests of

[27:54] the Gerbervilles by Thomas Hardy, where it was like, oh, this is like the emotional power that

[27:58] I'm looking for in entertainment. And I'm not getting a lot of the time and it's like, oh yeah,

[28:03] well this, that there's a reason these novels last for 150, 200 years, you know, in, in

[28:07] stealing bookstores. And I want TV to be aiming a little bit higher. And I think for that

[28:12] audience, it's on us. We got to push TV creators to really live up to this idea of greatness,

[28:17] but again, controversial. Maybe I'm just being a snob. I don't know. I feel like TV was getting

[28:21] there. There are a couple of shows that are considered great shows that I think are genuinely

[28:25] like, these are great works of art, but I feel like lately, maybe it's because everything's

[28:28] IP based. I don't know. I feel like it's been devalued. I think this is all entirely a function

[28:34] of the various costs it takes to make different things. Like Thomas, Thomas Hardy did not have to

[28:41] put a lot of money into sitting at home and writing tests of the Gerbervilles. No, but he still got to

[28:46] make money to survive. I mean, that was the thing he released as a serial. He personally does. Sure.

[28:50] But like, and I want to make it clear, Tessa Gerbervilles was released as a serial. I mean,

[28:56] one installment a week, not a serial like you would eat Tesso's.

[29:01] Written on the back of the box. Yeah. Snap, crackle, test.

[29:06] Thomas Hardy, we need someone to write something people can read while they're eating their cereal

[29:10] in the morning before they go to their crushing labor at a factory in 19th century London. He

[29:16] goes, all right, I guess I'll write a novel. Yeah. But, but the, the, the, the production

[29:21] costs of, of a television show over time, like all that goes into it, like, that's the sad truth

[29:27] about like, uh, mass media art is like all these edges, you know, get sanded down. You can't like

[29:34] allow time for things to develop because, you know, it has to reach the widest possible audience.

[29:40] Except I would say, I would say in television, one of the issues is that to me at least is that

[29:44] they allow too much time for things to develop. The pace of TV shows is often at as slow as you

[29:48] can possibly do it to make sure everyone gets everything. And it's like, I mean, I haven't

[29:52] finished and or yet the first season and I'm enjoying it, but I'm also like, oh, if this

[29:56] had started with episode four, I think I would have been, I would have been.

[30:00] been on board from the get-go,

[30:01] but instead they had to build all the characters up

[30:04] very slowly, which is just not my speed,

[30:07] just not my patience.

[30:08] Yeah, I've heard that from people,

[30:08] I just don't agree, but that's why we disagree on that one.

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[35:01] And we are talking tube with two dudes today.

[35:04] Yes way.

[35:06] And one of the sad facts about the tube.

[35:08] No way.

[35:09] No way.

[35:10] Yes way.

[35:10] Now one of the sad facts about the tube, guys.

[35:12] A lot of pushback from one of the dudes.

[35:14] One of the sad facts about the tube

[35:15] is that sometimes shows get canceled.

[35:19] It's a bummer.

[35:20] Now in this modern age of streaming services,

[35:23] there's always a chance that those shows that get canceled

[35:25] are gonna get saved at the last minute

[35:27] by a different channel.

[35:28] It could happen, folks.

[35:29] Smaller and smaller chance.

[35:30] It could happen.

[35:31] It could happen, folks.

[35:32] This current market, but yeah.

[35:34] But so we're doing another lightning round here.

[35:36] You guys are just gonna have to go right off the cuff.

[35:38] I'm gonna give you two options,

[35:39] two shows that according to my information

[35:42] have been canceled.

[35:43] And you're gonna have to pick one to save

[35:45] and one to leave to the dust of history, okay?

[35:50] Okay?

[35:51] So, you know, be ready.

[35:53] Because these are, this is a binding contract.

[35:58] So we're actually making the decision?

[35:59] We are making the decision.

[36:00] So the first round is Reboot,

[36:05] the comedy show on Hulu,

[36:07] and NCIS Los Angeles.

[36:12] Well, you know what?

[36:12] I actually watched Reboot

[36:14] and I'm a big fan of Judy Greer in particular,

[36:19] who was the lead, who doesn't often get leads.

[36:21] I could see why you might've missed NCIS Los Angeles,

[36:24] because it only had 14 seasons?

[36:27] Yeah.

[36:28] Well, that's the other thing.

[36:29] I think that it's had its time,

[36:30] whereas Reboot got one season.

[36:32] So that's the one I would rescue.

[36:34] I would also say Reboot for similar reasons, yeah.

[36:36] Okay, I guess Los Angeles no longer has an NCIS here.

[36:41] No, crime will run rampant in the,

[36:43] what is it?

[36:44] The Navy Crime Intelligence Service?

[36:45] Is that what it stands for?

[36:46] I think that's what it stands for.

[36:47] Okay, so next round, next pairing.

[36:50] 1899 and American Gigolo.

[36:57] Was 1899 one of the Yellowstone shows or is it not?

[37:00] No, I believe it was from the-

[37:01] I think of 1923.

[37:03] Yes, I believe 1899 was from the people

[37:05] who made the show Dark on Netflix,

[37:08] which was kind of beloved.

[37:10] And American Gigolo is adapting the hit movie

[37:14] to a TV show starring John Barrenthal,

[37:17] who is smoldering.

[37:19] You know what?

[37:19] I'm gonna just say American Gigolo

[37:21] because it's about an American Gigolo.

[37:23] Oh, okay, yeah.

[37:25] I'm gonna say, not having watched either,

[37:26] I'm gonna say 1899 because I love history.

[37:28] And I kind of feel like to me,

[37:31] American Gigolo is where it works,

[37:33] the movie at least,

[37:34] is as a portrait of the time it was made.

[37:36] And I don't know that I wanna see

[37:37] an American Gigolo about now,

[37:39] where the American Gigolo is like a task rabbit guy

[37:41] and lonely older women just kind of hire him

[37:44] for an hour through an app or something.

[37:45] I assume that's what happens in it.

[37:47] I haven't seen it.

[37:48] I assume they updated it.

[37:49] Is Paul Schrader involved with the show?

[37:51] I'm assuming not based on his Facebook pictures.

[37:58] Because if Paul Schrader's involved with the show,

[38:00] I'm gonna say yes.

[38:03] Continue that one because he is,

[38:06] say what you will about him as a human being,

[38:07] which I can't.

[38:09] I don't know him and he says a lot of strange things

[38:10] on Facebook, but he's a unique artist

[38:12] with a unique corrupt view of the world.

[38:15] Okay, and our third and final grouping, okay?

[38:17] Remember, these are binding contracts.

[38:20] We have Pennyworth.

[38:22] Wait, does it mean we have to fund these shows?

[38:25] Yes, of course.

[38:26] Okay.

[38:27] I'm sorry, then's the break.

[38:28] So you asked for the power, Elliot.

[38:30] You're gonna have to pay the piper.

[38:32] So we have Pennyworth.

[38:34] The piper power.

[38:35] Which is worth more than a penny from what I hear.

[38:37] The secret history of Batman's butler or Dr. Phil?

[38:44] Okay, well, number one,

[38:46] I enjoy that when I look at Pennyworth on HBO,

[38:49] it says underneath it, the origin of Batman's butler.

[38:54] As if to say like, yeah,

[38:55] everything needs a goddamn origin these days.

[38:58] So why don't you lap it up, jerks?

[39:01] If this is well enough, then we can finally get

[39:04] Lavender Man, the origin of Batman's laundry guy.

[39:07] Yeah, yep.

[39:08] That all being said, I don't think Pennyworth

[39:10] is causing active harm in the world

[39:12] the way that I think Dr. Phil is.

[39:15] So I think Dr. Phil should get the fuck out of here,

[39:17] get canceled.

[39:18] Yeah, I agree.

[39:19] Unless, I would agree with Dan completely,

[39:21] unless Pennyworth also had an episode

[39:23] where they exploited Shelly Duvall's mental illness

[39:25] for ratings, then I'm gonna have to say,

[39:27] keep Pennyworth on the air.

[39:28] Okay.

[39:29] Get rid of Dr. Phil.

[39:30] So you guys have three shows you're paying for.

[39:32] We'll have a meeting and I'll send you the bill.

[39:35] But if Dr. Phil gets canceled,

[39:37] I can still make memes where the Eminem version

[39:39] of Dr. Phil is marrying Shrek

[39:41] on the anniversary of the first episode

[39:43] of Supernatural, right?

[39:44] I can still do that?

[39:45] Of course you can, yep.

[39:46] The Winchester brothers are in attendance.

[39:47] Oh, thank you.

[39:49] Okay, so let's talk.

[39:51] What have you guys been watching?

[39:52] I'm gonna start first.

[39:54] We're talking about what the flop boys are watching.

[39:57] We've been watching, in this house,

[39:58] we've been watching Poker Face.

[40:00] It's not the movie before you ask.

[40:03] I mean, you were watching Poker Face the movie

[40:05] for this podcast.

[40:06] I guess technically I was.

[40:06] Maybe I didn't, who knows?

[40:09] So, Poker Face the TV show on Peacock with Natasha Lyonne.

[40:14] It's got a little bit of Columbo in it.

[40:16] It's got a ton of great guest stars.

[40:18] Although there is a guest star on the fourth episode

[40:22] who really brings something special, you know?

[40:26] Didn't take me out of the episode at all.

[40:29] He was hilarious.

[40:30] Ugh, I think his name was John Hodgman, maybe?

[40:34] Oh.

[40:36] Yeah, yeah, no, he was good as a khaki-wearing man

[40:41] who wants drugs.

[40:43] He is, yep, not to spoil too much,

[40:45] but he is a khaki-wearing man who wants drugs.

[40:49] Not a narc.

[40:50] Yeah.

[40:51] Are you guys enjoying, are you watching Poker Face?

[40:53] Are you enjoying it?

[40:54] Poker Face, yes, I enjoy that show.

[40:57] I do think that, I think that Ryan Johnson

[41:00] went the right way when he was like,

[41:01] oh, the internet wants Natasha Lyonne to be Columbo.

[41:04] If we did a reboot of Columbo,

[41:06] actually, whether or not I have the rights,

[41:09] if we did one, it would be always compared to Columbo.

[41:12] Why don't I just make a show

[41:14] that is basically like Columbo, but not Columbo?

[41:17] That's a good route to go with that,

[41:19] although I still continue to compare it to Columbo

[41:23] and prefer Columbo slightly, but Poker Face is great.

[41:27] Judged by Ryan Johnson's Twitter feed,

[41:29] Columbo is all he watches and all he thinks about.

[41:31] He's always tweeting about Columbo,

[41:33] or was at least for a long period of time.

[41:35] So he may be saying the same thing to himself.

[41:37] He watches his own show and is like, it's no Columbo.

[41:40] Pretty good, but no Columbo.

[41:41] I'm trying the best I can, yeah.

[41:42] But I like it a lot.

[41:43] I like it a lot, and I'm also watching Superstore,

[41:47] which had something like six seasons,

[41:50] so it was good to come across it late

[41:51] and then we're just sort of tearing through it,

[41:54] but it's gonna be like popcorn.

[41:55] It's gonna be sad once we hit the bottom of that bowl of-

[41:58] Just the kernels at the bottom of the bag.

[42:00] There's a lot of really great,

[42:01] yeah, there's a lot of really great supporting actors

[42:04] on that show.

[42:05] Obviously, what, Mark McKinney?

[42:08] But then, yeah, there's so many funny women on it.

[42:11] It's so great.

[42:12] I saw Lauren Ashes on a new show with,

[42:16] fuck, who's on that show?

[42:18] Oh, man.

[42:19] But it was good to see her working again

[42:22] after the Superstore.

[42:24] Speaking of Lauren Ashe, Audrey was a big fan

[42:29] of the animated She-Ra series on Netflix,

[42:34] which is a cartoon, an action cartoon

[42:39] that is unafraid of being-

[42:41] I said that as if I was surprised

[42:42] that She-Ra could show us a cartoon.

[42:44] No, it is unafraid of being unabashedly feminine

[42:48] and also very much about friendship

[42:52] and good emotional lessons rather than just fighting.

[42:57] And I really enjoyed it.

[42:57] And it has people like Lauren Ashe,

[43:01] and what's her face?

[43:02] I forget her name.

[43:03] The friend-

[43:04] Shirley MacLaine, Kate Blanchett.

[43:06] The friend-slash-roommate from-

[43:07] Bebe Neuwirth.

[43:09] God damn it, let me ask Stewart.

[43:10] The friend-slash-roommate from Crazy Ex-Girlfriend

[43:16] plays Mermista on it, and she's funny,

[43:18] like the one who's kind of over it all.

[43:20] Yeah.

[43:21] Denise Richards.

[43:22] I don't remember her name.

[43:23] A lot of good comic voices.

[43:24] Judi Dench?

[43:25] It is Judi Dench, yeah.

[43:26] Judi Dench, okay.

[43:27] It's Dame Judi Dench.

[43:28] Dame Judi Dench.

[43:30] Don't forget the Dame, dude.

[43:32] So, Elliot-

[43:33] I'm not British.

[43:34] I don't have to say their titles.

[43:36] So, Elliot, what have you been watching?

[43:38] I'm guessing, what, like the talkies from the 20s?

[43:40] Like, what are you watching?

[43:41] I mean, there weren't a lot of talkies in the 20s,

[43:43] but I would watch them.

[43:44] I mean, I did watch a movie the other night,

[43:46] a movie from the 50s.

[43:48] It's not two.

[43:49] No, it's not.

[43:50] You know what, I'll talk about it

[43:51] on our movie portion of Flop House.

[43:52] That's the thing is, I don't watch as much TV

[43:54] because I love movies so much.

[43:56] So, I could be watching a TV show,

[43:57] but instead I was watching last night, Lizdomania,

[43:59] which I was finally getting around to watching.

[44:01] What a nutty movie that is.

[44:02] Yeah, and, but lately, what have we,

[44:04] we've been watching Severance.

[44:06] We've started watching.

[44:07] Sure, yeah.

[44:08] Which-

[44:09] People love it.

[44:10] Which is, people love it.

[44:10] I think it's a little,

[44:11] it's not exactly what I want from that show,

[44:14] but it is very good.

[44:17] It's a compelling puzzle.

[44:18] It is.

[44:20] I feel like, as with many shows,

[44:22] I want it to move a little faster,

[44:24] but that's because I'm used to watching movies.

[44:25] I'm used to watching things

[44:26] that are one story told over two hours

[44:28] rather than a very,

[44:29] with the same story told over 10 hours.

[44:31] But it's very well made.

[44:32] If it's told over 10 hours,

[44:33] then you can like look at your phone

[44:35] while you're watching it

[44:36] or play solitaire or something.

[44:38] I know, that's not really necessarily what I want.

[44:41] We've also been watching Avid Elementary,

[44:43] which is a fine show.

[44:44] It's a very solid sitcom.

[44:46] It's won many awards.

[44:47] Won many awards.

[44:49] It's a solid modern sitcom,

[44:52] but we haven't been watching too,

[44:54] we find ourselves a lot of times

[44:56] just sitting there trying to remember what we're watching

[44:58] because at the moment we don't have a show

[44:59] that is like really good captions.

[45:00] Just sitting there trying to remember

[45:01] how we got to this place.

[45:06] Wrong turns we took.

[45:07] Staring into the void.

[45:09] Yeah, just like the end of The Graduate,

[45:11] every day when we sit on the couch watching the TV.

[45:14] I feel like the last show

[45:17] that really like we had to watch every episode

[45:19] was we were like re-watching The Wire a while back.

[45:22] And I'm looking for the show

[45:24] that is going to make it so that we're like,

[45:27] we got to watch the next one.

[45:28] Like, should we stay up and watch another episode

[45:30] even though we need to go to bed?

[45:31] Yeah, let's do it.

[45:32] I don't have that show yet.

[45:33] So guys, what would you recommend?

[45:34] Keeping in mind, I'm very critical and snobbish,

[45:36] and I'm going to be comparing everything

[45:38] to Tess of the D'Urbervilles by Tom Hardy.

[45:40] Yeah, this is the problem with that.

[45:41] Tom is Hardy's name.

[45:42] It's not Tom Hardy the actor.

[45:46] Oh man, it would be so great

[45:48] if he wrote that old thing with a mask on his face.

[45:51] I mean, based on his MySpace profile,

[45:54] he does have a way with words, guys.

[45:59] If you haven't looked up Tom Hardy's MySpace profile,

[46:01] you totally should.

[46:02] Just Google that shit, it's so great.

[46:04] Listeners, feel free to tweet at me

[46:07] with your recommendations for shows

[46:09] that really kind of grabbed you,

[46:11] but don't tell me about like The Last of Us or something.

[46:14] Tell me about a show that I may not have heard about, okay?

[46:16] Not the one show everybody's talking about,

[46:18] because that's the other thing, guys,

[46:19] is we live in a very disposable television

[46:22] and film culture right now,

[46:23] and the thing that everyone's,

[46:25] it's the greatest thing they've ever seen this week.

[46:27] By next week, often they've forgotten about it.

[46:29] I want something that's going to last for a little while,

[46:32] that's really going to sit in my mind

[46:33] and I'm going to think about it,

[46:35] and I'm going to mull it over.

[46:37] I don't want something I can just watch

[46:39] and then throw away and drag it over

[46:40] to the trash can icon in my mind, you know?

[46:43] You don't want fast food.

[46:45] You want like a real sit-down hearty meal.

[46:49] Man, you want different things out of television.

[46:51] Yeah, okay.

[46:52] That's totally fine.

[46:53] That's totally fine.

[46:54] I mean, there are a lot of people who,

[46:55] when they watch TV, they just want to sit down,

[46:57] have something that entertains them,

[46:58] and then not think about it anymore,

[47:00] which is a totally valid way to use television,

[47:02] but that's not the way I like to do things.

[47:05] That's how I treat time with my family.

[47:08] Experience it, throw it away, don't think about it anymore.

[47:11] In, out, done.

[47:13] But television, I want it to,

[47:14] I want to look back on my deathbed

[47:16] and really remember all the shows I watched

[47:18] and how wonderful they were.

[47:19] Yeah, yeah.

[47:20] So, of course, since we're talking tube,

[47:23] we got to talk about the biggest tube event of all.

[47:26] That's right, the big game, guys.

[47:28] Last night was the Super Bowl

[47:30] between the Philadelphia Eagles

[47:32] and the Kansas City Chiefs.

[47:36] Are they still doing that?

[47:37] They're still doing that?

[47:38] Yeah.

[47:39] Okay, cool.

[47:40] They're still doing that one, yeah.

[47:41] So, any highlights?

[47:44] You guys watched the big game?

[47:46] I'll tell you what.

[47:47] I went to Audrey's.

[47:49] Tell us what, yeah.

[47:50] I went to Audrey's aunt's place

[47:53] to hang out with her family.

[47:55] It's always a great time over there.

[47:57] She's got a lot of extended family, a lot of great food.

[47:59] Is this your recommendation?

[48:01] Oh, no, I'm just like, this is what, like, it's always.

[48:03] So, he recommends all listeners go to Audrey's aunt's house?

[48:05] Yeah, if you have the chance,

[48:07] really get to know Audrey's family,

[48:09] because there are a bunch of sweethearts.

[48:10] If you have the chance, get to know Audrey's aunts.

[48:12] You get a bunch of great Filipino food,

[48:15] along with other just, like, regular American-style.

[48:20] I think you want to rephrase that

[48:21] so you don't compare Filipino food with regular food.

[48:24] What are you, James Bond, and you only live twice?

[48:26] I don't mean regular.

[48:28] I don't mean, like, that there's,

[48:30] I do not mean that there's a normal thing to eat.

[48:36] You just eat the default human food

[48:38] of hamburgers and hot dogs and French fries.

[48:40] That's regular.

[48:41] And then all the other weird alternatives.

[48:42] That's why I switched what I was saying

[48:44] over to American traditional Super Bowl foods.

[48:48] I'm just joking with you, Dan.

[48:50] I know what you meant.

[48:51] Stuff that Americans who have grown up

[48:54] having wings, say, and a chili dip, that all was there.

[49:00] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[49:01] Anyway, I don't know why I went down.

[49:02] Yeah, what did you bring?

[49:02] Did you bring, like, maybe some pesto, or like a zucchini, or?

[49:08] You know what I brought?

[49:10] The traditional Super Bowl pesto.

[49:14] The field's green, just like the pesto.

[49:18] I made a salted peanut tart.

[49:21] Also traditional Super Bowl food.

[49:23] Yeah, I mean, well, they've grown to know

[49:26] that I bake things, so now I feel like

[49:28] I don't want to disappoint them.

[49:29] I want to show up with something baked good.

[49:32] And when you told them it was a tart,

[49:34] were they surprised that it was sweet?

[49:37] Uh, I think that you'll find that that's a frequent

[49:42] way that tarts are, and there's a whole candy

[49:44] based around it.

[49:45] Now, this is another joke from when Stuart

[49:47] gave that commencement speech at that English department.

[49:50] His whole bit about words that aren't exactly right.

[49:54] I remember, it was a slalad bit, too.

[49:56] That was great.

[49:56] I like amusing those jokes.

[49:57] They, like, lifted me up on their shoulders, and.

[50:00] It was amazing when you got your honorary degree from Trinity College. Yeah

[50:09] Point is I went over there mostly for you know

[50:12] Some fun family time less for the football game. That was also on. Yep. Uh, I sort of half watched the first half

[50:21] Paid more attention to Rihanna. Yeah when she's on that level from Super Smash Brothers

[50:28] Yeah, and then we and then we took a car

[50:32] Ignored the second half of the game

[50:34] Watch some Superstore

[50:37] So one of the big draws of the big game is always the commercials. That's right. Everybody's got to watch those commercials

[50:44] I don't know about if you miss the second half

[50:46] Capitalism has done an amazingly good job of convincing us that we care about the commercials at the Super Bowl

[50:51] Yeah, but there was one that I did care about

[50:54] Because in the second half there's a commercial for a little streaming service called fucking to be

[50:59] To be at a Super Bowl ad and it was a great ad and I was like goddammit to be you fucking did it

[51:06] There wasn't unlike last year. It wasn't just a sea of crypto ads. Although there were way too many QR codes for my tastes

[51:14] There was multiple commercials for Jesus and Scientology, which is cool. Okay, whatever. Are they working together now?

[51:21] I mean they must be right like in some kind like like the shots of the fucking

[51:26] Like the fancy box that had Elon Musk sitting next to Rupert Murdoch and you're like man

[51:31] Wow, that could just like if that one box exploit like if agent 47 snuck in there and rewired something

[51:37] Everybody be happy for a day

[51:40] There was a lot of commercials. I'll never be able to catch the person who did this

[51:43] All we know is he had a barcode on the back of his neck

[51:46] Wearing different clothes Elliot. You can't tell

[51:49] He's like he's he's like he's knocking up people and then checking to see how high the collar is

[51:57] There would totally be a bit where he like has to knock out Rihanna and do the fucking

[52:02] Halftime show god agent 47 is amazing guys. He's so great

[52:07] And he's got he's got to be pregnant for the show. So nobody can tell the difference

[52:10] Yeah, I would have to go be amazing. You'd get a like a fake pregnant, but I love agent 47

[52:15] Okay, there was multiple commercials where celebrities are doing like normal people jobs and the whole time like fuck you

[52:24] There's a trailer for the flash Bradley Cooper, did you see the trailer for the flash?

[52:28] I saw I I didn't see it during the Super Bowl

[52:31] I saw it online and I fast-forwarded to the part with Michael Keaton and then I didn't watch the rest of the trailer

[52:35] Let's let's pause this Dan. You were saying something about Bradley Cooper

[52:40] No, you were talking about things where people celebrities were playing normal roles or like like doing other jobs

[52:48] and there was a T-Mobile one where he was with his his mom and it was less about him being

[52:54] Working for T-Mobile and more about seeing him goof around with his mom, which I enjoyed that's all

[53:00] Of the celebs doing regular jobs. I feel like that was the only one where I wasn't like god to him

[53:06] Yeah

[53:07] But yeah, the flash trailer it's it's kind of wild to me that they're actually releasing that movie. Yes. Yes. Yeah

[53:14] I mean, I just have so much money tied up in it and

[53:18] Warner Brothers, I think at the moment is fighting the impression that they have that they're just eating all of their

[53:24] Product, you know, yeah

[53:26] I wonder if there's part of that was like

[53:27] Why couldn't we have released the Batgirl movie and held this one back like why why did we have to do it?

[53:33] But maybe there's something in Michael Keaton's contract that says the movie has to be released in theaters

[53:37] I don't know. Yeah, I mean I I I can only imagine that a large part of it is they made such a big deal

[53:43] Oh, oh Michael Keaton's back. It's Batman and etc. Etc. Like and so

[53:49] they're putting more energy into like

[53:53] an idea of like look Ezra Miller's gonna get some help guys than they would for

[53:59] Other projects that were bedeviled by someone who had been in the news unfavorably

[54:04] I mean it is it feels like this is by being the next chapter in DC

[54:09] Continuing to ape the Marvel Universe of movies almost like almost

[54:15] Shamelessly the fact that they're like now there's multiple verses and multiple versions of the same character

[54:20] Yes, what a guy who played the character in the past is back

[54:23] It's like you realize we saw this in a movie like three years ago, right?

[54:26] Like two and a half years ago, but uh the I feel it's just this movie benefits from being too big to fail

[54:32] I guess like it has too big a part in that

[54:34] Although with with um with James Gunn taking over is all this stuff gonna just be wiped clean

[54:39] Basically a fair amount of it

[54:41] Do you think this is like this movie is the reset that they're that like that's why it has to exist is very possible

[54:48] Yeah, it could be

[54:51] Well, we talked we talked a lot about tube today guys. Thank you so much for joining me listeners. Thank you for tuning in

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