FH Mini 79 - Trailer Time in Teasertown

Stuart Wellington

[0:00] Okay, I'm running this. Okay, I'm gonna kill it.

[0:07] Hey, it's me, Stuart Wellington on the Flophouse Podcast, and welcome to another Flophouse mini.

[0:13] That's a mini episode of the Flophouse Podcast, where instead of watching a movie and talking about it, we're just gonna do whatever we want.

[0:20] Joining me are my co-hosts, as always, and they will introduce themselves as...

[0:25] Dan McCoy.

[0:26] And I'm Elliot Kalin.

[0:27] I'm sorry.

[0:28] Thank you for the opportunity to introduce myself.

Dan McCoy

[0:30] Yeah, you're welcome.

[0:31] I'm sorry, I was thrown by, you said you were gonna kill it, and then as soon as you started talking, your voice broke like the teen in The Simpsons.

Stuart Wellington

[0:39] That's great. That's painting a picture for everyone at home as to what I look like in real life.

[0:45] Yeah.

[0:46] Is that what I said?

[0:47] Now, normally, you think you're tuning in, and you think that you are gonna be in the Flophouse, but in fact, you're not in the Flophouse today, baby.

[0:54] You're in Teasertown.

[0:56] Teasertown is the place where we talk about trailers, and that means it's trailer time in Teasertown.

Dan McCoy

[1:03] Stuart, I just moved. Now you're telling me I live in Teasertown.

Stuart Wellington

[1:07] I live in Teasertown.

[1:08] It's so stressful.

[1:09] I know. Well, did you save the bins that you rented to pack up all your stuff?

Dan McCoy

[1:14] Yeah. Speaking of that, that was a big topic of conversation at our live show recently.

Stuart Wellington

[1:19] Wait a minute. Are we doing a teaser in the middle of Teasertown? I think that's a perfect term for trailers.

Elliott Kalan

[1:25] This is now, this is Teasertown in trailer time in Teasertown.

[1:28] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[1:31] What's that?

[1:32] What's that?

[1:33] Dan, don't get distracted. Don't get distracted by other words that start with T. Do what you're supposed to do.

[1:38] No, we just, you know, we did a Battlefield Earth live show, and we had it filmed, and we streamed it for people, and it was a whole lot of fun.

[1:47] I really enjoyed sitting there and watching and chatting with people and watching the show that we were in and remembering what we said, because I forget it almost immediately, and getting to see reactions in real time.

[2:00] Like I said to Audrey, it's kind of like the non-depressing equivalent of being at your own funeral. Like, you get to see nice things that people are saying. Anyway, it was fun to be in the audience, is what I'm saying.

Elliott Kalan

[2:12] Uh-huh, yeah, okay.

[2:14] And our audience still has the opportunity to sit in that audience, right?

Dan McCoy

[2:18] Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you want to see it, it's not done just because we were, like, pushing the premiere when we were going to be in the chat.

[2:25] It is available, VOD, that's video on demand, or in this case, streaming website file on demand at FlophousePodcast.com slash stream.

[2:40] FlophousePodcast.com slash stream is where you can go take a look at that if you want.

[2:45] And I wanted to say, you know, let us know what you thought of it.

[2:49] Like, we were really happy with the way it was shot and turned out, but I would love to hear if you guys have thoughts on whether you liked it.

[2:58] We should do more like these shows, live shows filmed.

[3:02] If you had any thoughts about the content.

[3:05] I don't know.

[3:06] Feedback, it's fun.

Elliott Kalan

[3:07] Yeah.

[3:07] That's FlophousePodcast.com slash stream to buy tickets to see the video.

[3:12] And you know what's on that page is a trailer for the show itself.

Stuart Wellington

[3:17] Uh-huh.

[3:18] Yep, that's right, because it's trailer time in Teasertown.

[3:21] And also, if you follow that link, you have access to buying some exclusive merch that's really cool.

[3:28] Because it's also merch month in Teasertown also, yeah.

[3:33] Merch Madness.

[3:34] Uh-huh, merch madness.

Stuart Wellington

[3:36] It's not during March.

[3:37] It's very confusing for people.

Elliott Kalan

[3:39] Now let's get back to trailer time.

[3:40] Oh, sorry.

[3:41] Merch Me You Madness in April.

[3:42] Oh yeah, so trailer time in Teasertown.

Stuart Wellington

[3:44] Yeah, so Teasertown.

[3:45] It feels like trailer time starts earlier and earlier every year here in Teasertown.

[3:49] Exactly.

[3:51] And one of the reasons why we're doing a trailer time in Teasertown is because we're about to record our full-length episode that's going to come out next week.

[4:01] And we actually did a Flophouse in the Isles, which means we went to a movie theater to watch the movie.

[4:09] So that's a movie that's currently playing in theaters.

[4:12] And what plays before movies when you're in a movie theater, guys?

[4:15] That's right.

[4:16] Teasers.

[4:16] It's trailer time.

[4:18] So we watched a series of—Dan and I went to—Dan and I, just to paint a little picture, Dan and I went to the Alamo Drafthouse in Staten Island.

[4:28] I drove us there.

[4:30] And it was a lovely experience.

[4:32] I was a little disappointed, I have to say, that the menu options weren't all gabagool and spaghetti plates.

[4:39] That's a harmful stereotype.

[4:41] People in Staten Island like delicious food?

[4:44] Yeah, yeah.

[4:44] Yeah, I couldn't get a rice ball with my movie, but that's neither here nor there.

[4:50] What about fried zucchini?

Elliott Kalan

[4:52] Did they have any fried zucchini?

Stuart Wellington

[4:53] No, they didn't have fried—they had fried pickles, which is basically the same thing, right, Dan?

[4:59] Sure.

[5:00] It's the same genus.

[5:01] Yeah, zucchini is kind of a Gentile pickle.

[5:03] Yeah, sure.

[5:05] Yeah, yeah.

[5:07] Okay, so a number of trailers played before it.

[5:11] And what I'm going to do is I'm going to go down the different trailers that played.

[5:14] Eventually, we'll ask Elliot what trailers played before his screening.

[5:17] Maybe there's some crossover.

[5:19] Maybe not.

[5:19] We'll find out.

[5:20] Yeah.

[5:20] And after I bring up each trailer, we're all going to come down on a rating.

[5:26] And the rating is, we got to see it.

[5:30] I'll wait for reviews.

[5:32] Or I'll only watch that for the Flophouse.

[5:36] Okay?

[5:37] So those are your three options.

Elliott Kalan

[5:39] Sounds good.

[5:39] Does that make sense?

[5:40] Yeah.

[5:40] Super clear?

[5:41] For the record, since you mentioned your theater, I just want to make sure people know why.

[5:44] I went to the Regal UA Theater in La Canyada, California.

[5:49] So in the La Crescenta Montrose area.

[5:52] Now, did that movie theater have spaghetti?

[5:54] It did not have spaghetti.

[5:56] And you know what it didn't have?

[5:57] I was having a not great day.

[5:58] I was having a pretty bad day that day.

[5:59] And I said, I'm going to see this movie.

[6:01] I want a big jumbo-sized, king-sized Kit Kat.

[6:04] That's what I'm going to have.

[6:05] They didn't have it.

[6:06] Very disappointing.

[6:07] Their snack bar was woefully understocked with the kinds of candy I like to eat.

[6:11] Which is just what a giant Kit Kat bar.

[6:13] Like a big Kit Kat, yeah.

[6:14] Did you have a second?

Stuart Wellington

[6:15] Did you have a backup option?

Elliott Kalan

[6:16] I would have settled for Nestle Crunch.

[6:17] I wanted something that combined chocolate and crunch.

[6:19] And they just didn't have it.

Stuart Wellington

[6:21] What if they had like a giant Crackle Bar?

[6:23] A thing that you normally only get in tiny form.

Elliott Kalan

[6:25] I've only ever seen them in fun size.

Stuart Wellington

[6:27] I'd be like, Santa Maria, the legends are true.

[6:30] Yeah, you'd try to figure out if you crossed into the fringe universe or something.

Elliott Kalan

[6:35] Yeah, I'd have to write up that sighting for science or nature, the academic journal.

[6:40] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[6:41] Yep.

[6:41] So the first trailer that played before our screening, Dan, you can obviously correct me if I'm wrong,

[6:46] is going to be the recently released trailer for Guardians of the Galaxy 3.

[6:51] Yes, yes, yes.

[6:52] That was.

[6:53] Guardians of the Galaxy 3.

[6:55] Now, this is a perfect opportunity if you at home want to know what we're talking about.

[6:58] You can actually go over to YouTube and look up the most recent trailer for Guardians of the Galaxy 3.

[7:07] Now, Dan, how do you feel about this trailer?

Dan McCoy

[7:11] Okay.

[7:12] Well, I mean, this is complex because I think the trailer is good as far as it goes.

[7:21] I mean, like, I assume that this third film from everything I hear about it is going to be.

Stuart Wellington

[7:27] It'll probably feature the same characters as the other movies.

[7:30] Yeah, yeah.

[7:30] I feel like that's safe.

Dan McCoy

[7:32] That's a safe guess.

[7:33] It seems like it's headed in a, you know, sad direction of some kind to send off these characters

[7:40] since people have said, you know, like, this is the last time we're going to see this configuration of this team in a movie.

Stuart Wellington

[7:48] What people said that?

[7:51] The trades?

[7:51] The internet stories.

Dan McCoy

[7:52] The trades.

[7:53] Yeah, the trades.

[7:54] Let's call it the trades.

[7:56] But, like, I do feel like they're hitting it kind of hard, the sadness.

[8:01] Like, it's not, it doesn't, like, I'm going to see this movie regardless of the rating of the trailer.

[8:08] Like, these are my guys.

[8:10] Like, these are my favorite of the MCU.

[8:13] So, I'm looking forward to it.

[8:15] You got to see it.

[8:16] But, I am kind of also like, why are they selling so hard how, like, dour and presumably.

Stuart Wellington

[8:22] Do you think people are watching the trailer and they're like, another superhero movie.

[8:26] Oh, wait.

[8:27] This one's going to be sad.

[8:29] I can't wait.

Dan McCoy

[8:30] Finally.

[8:31] Yeah, that's not particularly what I enjoy about Guardians of the Galaxy.

[8:34] And I assume it will only get sad eventually.

[8:38] Like, there'll be plenty of the hijinks I've come to expect.

[8:40] Yeah, it's not what cries and whispers.

Elliott Kalan

[8:42] What you liked most from Guardians of the Galaxy is the dourness.

[8:45] The dour, tear-filled eyes.

[8:47] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[8:48] Mm-hmm.

[8:49] Yeah, the trailer does promise a little bit of sadness.

[8:52] There's a lot of, like, quick cuts of Star-Lord crying.

[8:54] And I'm like, oh, what do you find out?

[8:56] Some weird thing about, I don't know.

[8:58] I was about to make a Chris Pratt joke, but I can't come up with specifics.

[9:02] Yeah.

[9:03] He's ironed out his image so much.

Dan McCoy

[9:05] He's so boring.

[9:05] He found out about his own religious views.

[9:09] So, here's the thing that.

[9:10] And was sad.

[9:10] I'll tell you what.

Elliott Kalan

[9:11] Have you seen this trailer, Elliot?

[9:12] Real quick before.

[9:12] I have seen this trailer.

[9:13] And here's the thing.

[9:14] I don't want tears.

[9:15] I want Adam Warlock.

[9:17] Yes.

[9:17] And I am not getting enough Adam Warlock in this trailer.

[9:19] I don't know if there's any Adam Warlock in this new trailer.

Stuart Wellington

[9:21] I think there's, like, a clip.

[9:23] There's, like, a little.

Elliott Kalan

[9:24] You see him, like, walk for a second or something like that.

[9:26] But it makes me feel like this is not going to be the Warlock stravaganza that I was hoping it would be.

Stuart Wellington

[9:32] Yeah.

[9:32] It's not – I mean, it looks a little psychedelic.

[9:35] That's what Adam Warlock is all about, right?

Dan McCoy

[9:36] Can I recommend the film Warlock if you want a Warlock stravaganza?

[9:40] No, no, Dan.

Elliott Kalan

[9:40] I don't want a Warlock.

[9:42] I want Adam Warlock.

[9:43] Oh.

[9:43] Okay.

[9:44] It's a specific.

[9:44] Oh.

Stuart Wellington

[9:44] Julian Sands would have been a pretty good Adam Warlock.

Elliott Kalan

[9:46] He would have – when he was younger, he would have been an amazing Adam Warlock.

[9:49] That's true.

[9:50] Oh, man.

[9:50] But I will say the – it's weird that it feels like James Gunn, he made this last Guardians of the Galaxy.

[9:56] Like, he did all of them.

[9:57] And then he jumped to DC.

[9:58] And it almost feels like he had to make it as DC-looking movie as possible before he went to DC.

[10:03] Like, it feels – from the trailer, it looks more – almost more Zack Snyder-y than James Gunny.

[10:08] I'm sure that's just the trailer, but I don't know.

Dan McCoy

[10:10] Well, that's the other thing.

[10:11] Like, I feel like as the series went on, like, the MCU movies started getting, like, a codified look.

[10:19] And now they all look sort of washed out and gray because they don't have enough time to, like, color gray and everything.

Elliott Kalan

[10:26] They're literally photocopying the movie at the last minute and sending it to the theater because they didn't give the effects team enough time to finish it.

Dan McCoy

[10:32] Yeah.

[10:33] Well, and also, like, they want, like, a unified look, I guess, across these films now.

[10:36] But, like, that – you know, the first Guardians was relatively colorful and now it – yeah, it seems like everything is – a fine mist has covered the camera.

Elliott Kalan

[10:45] Well, and one of the things that is a strength of the Marvel movies is that they're colorful, that the characters are not all covered in gray ash constantly.

[10:52] Like, in that first Avengers movie, those characters – that famous spinning moment where we're amazed to see five superheroes on screen at once,

[10:59] they pop because it's – the world is gray because it's skyscrapers and rubble, but their costumes are, like, blue, red, green.

[11:06] Like, they should look – they should look colorful.

[11:08] All the colors.

[11:09] All the colors.

Stuart Wellington

[11:09] Unlike the, like, 90s – the Fox X-Men movies where, like, they immediately just put them all in black leather outfits.

Elliott Kalan

[11:16] Yes, whenever they bring the X-Men into the Disney world, like, I want them to be wearing – I want Wolverine to be wearing a bright yellow and blue costume.

[11:23] Like, do it.

[11:23] Yeah, as bright as possible, yeah.

[11:25] Super bright.

[11:25] Like, he wouldn't be able to sneak around stealth-wise.

[11:28] That's how good he is.

[11:30] He's like Harrison Bergeron.

[11:31] He's got to wear a bright yellow costume just to make it fair to the rest of the world.

[11:34] Thank you.

[11:35] Because he's so good at sneaking.

[11:36] Look, his idea of hunting is you just – you've got to sneak up to a skittish doe in an open field and just be able to touch it with your finger because it doesn't even notice you're there until the last minute.

[11:45] You know, that's how good he is.

Stuart Wellington

[11:46] I can see Mark Silvestri drawing that exchange, Elliot.

Elliott Kalan

[11:49] Oh, yeah, yeah.

[11:51] Okay.

[11:51] So Guardians of the Galaxy, I'm going to give it a – oh, wait.

[11:54] What are the ratings again?

Stuart Wellington

[11:56] I got to see it.

[11:57] I'll wait for reviews or only for the Flophouse.

Elliott Kalan

[12:00] I mean, I'll probably see it, right?

[12:02] Okay.

[12:03] It's got Adam Warlock in it.

Stuart Wellington

[12:04] But that's not necessarily based on the trailer.

Elliott Kalan

[12:08] No.

[12:09] Based on the trailer, I would give it – the same way that I was very – I was really looking forward to Quantumania.

[12:14] And then based on the trailer, I ended up giving that a pass and I'll see it later.

[12:18] Because I was like, what do I want from my Ant-Man movies?

[12:21] I don't want him to be running around while a CGI spaceship shoots lasers at him.

[12:25] Like I want to see him do like shrinking and growing stuff.

[12:27] What do I want from Kang?

[12:28] Yes.

[12:28] I want time travel.

[12:29] I don't want like some kind of alien, you know, sludge world.

[12:33] You know, anyway.

[12:34] So that's just based on the trailer.

Dan McCoy

[12:36] But oddly, the movie Alien Sludge World sounds like a great movie.

Elliott Kalan

[12:40] Yeah.

[12:41] What do I want from the movie Alien?

[12:43] I want an Alien Sludge World.

[12:44] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[12:45] Guys, I'm with you on this one.

[12:47] I got to see it.

[12:47] But again, it's probably based more on the pedigree of the previous films as opposed to the trailer itself.

[12:54] Yes.

[12:55] Okay.

[12:55] So the next one we saw was the trailer for Strays, a what looks like a sex comedy, but starring a bunch of dogs with CGI animated mouths.

[13:04] That did play.

[13:05] That are spitting out the voices of celebrity actors.

Elliott Kalan

[13:08] That did play when I was in the theater beforehand.

[13:10] And the whole time I was like – I had stormed between two feelings.

[13:12] One, I work on a TV show about talking animals.

[13:15] And it felt like they did like –

[13:16] Featuring some of the same voices.

[13:18] Featuring some of the same cast.

[13:20] And so it was like, what the hell is this?

[13:24] But the other feeling was like, this is one of several trailers I saw before the movie where I was like, is this a real movie or is this like a sketch movie?

[13:32] Like is this a fake trailer that's appearing in a movie?

[13:38] Like it felt like I was watching one of the fake trailers before Tropic Thunder, you know?

Dan McCoy

[13:42] Well, that's one of the – that is something that Elliot texted us before – you know, you said this thing about how like, oh, I saw a bunch of trailers that felt like they were fake movies.

[13:52] And then when Stray's came up, I leaned over to Stuart and I'm like, I bet this is one of the movies Elliot was talking about.

[13:59] It certainly was.

Elliott Kalan

[13:59] Also because it looks like when you shoot a fake trailer for a sketch movie, you often don't have access to a lot of locations.

[14:07] So it looks like the same three scenes are kind of just edited together and it never really looks like a real movie.

[14:12] And the Stray's trailer kind of looks like that.

[14:14] Like it kind of looks like it takes place in like four locations and it's just animals – dogs talking on the same street corners.

[14:21] So it's like, is this a whole movie?

[14:23] Like is there enough movie here?

[14:24] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[14:26] We'll find out when we go see Stray's.

[14:27] It feels – is it made by the same people who made Good Boys?

[14:32] Did you guys see that one?

Dan McCoy

[14:33] I saw that.

[14:34] Because that was the energy I got from the trailer.

Stuart Wellington

[14:37] And I ended up liking that movie quite a bit more than I expected.

Elliott Kalan

[14:40] I mean there might be funny jokes in this.

[14:43] Also, did you guys see – all the trailers I saw must have been like the Red Band adults only trailers because there was a ton of swearing.

[14:49] Like full-on dicks hanging out.

[14:51] It was insertion.

[14:53] I'd never seen that in a trailer before.

[14:57] So maybe it will turn out to be funny, but it was like – it felt very –

Dan McCoy

[15:03] it just didn't feel like a real movie.

[15:05] I have to admit, I mean like I don't know – I can't tip my rating beforehand.

[15:11] I like – but –

Elliott Kalan

[15:12] Yeah, keep the audience in suspense.

[15:13] No spoilers.

Dan McCoy

[15:14] I wouldn't say that I was like convinced by the trailer, but I will say that like at the beginning of the trailer, I was like, what the hell is this?

[15:22] And then by the end, I was kind of like, oh, you kind of got me a couple times there in the trailer.

Elliott Kalan

[15:27] I kind of felt the same way.

[15:28] There's a – so spoiler for that trailer, I guess.

[15:30] Like if the animals are talking and they're like foul-mouthed animals and I'm like, all right.

[15:35] And then the hero of the movie goes, I'm going to go back to my owner who abandoned me and I'm going to bite his dick off.

[15:39] And they're like, that's the mission.

[15:41] That's what we're doing.

[15:42] And there was something about how specific that was.

[15:44] I was like, all right, that's – you got me a little bit movie.

[15:47] Yeah.

[15:47] Not just I'm going to get revenge.

Stuart Wellington

[15:49] That's the sort of thing that gets this trailer sent to me on Twitter.

[15:54] The promise of a penis being forcibly removed.

[15:57] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[15:58] Yeah.

[15:58] So, I mean, I feel like –

[16:00] Because we all know this.

[16:01] According to Stuart, the basic stories are all man versus man, man versus nature, and someone versus a penis.

[16:07] Man versus a penis, yeah.

[16:08] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[16:09] Yeah, that's – I think Shakespeare said that.

[16:12] So, I'm going to say I'm going to wait for reviews.

[16:16] I'm not like over the moon.

[16:17] I'm not like dying to see it.

[16:19] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[16:20] Yeah, I feel the same way.

[16:21] Yeah.

[16:21] I'm going to wait for reviews.

[16:22] Like the reviews would have to be pretty glowing for me to see it in the theater probably.

Stuart Wellington

[16:28] And Dan sees whatever garbage in the –

[16:29] He sees everything in the theaters.

Dan McCoy

[16:31] I see – I mean, if someone invited me to it and it was like at the Alamo where I've already got the season pass,

[16:39] I'm like, well, I should make use of this.

Elliott Kalan

[16:41] Otherwise, Dan will give it his worst insult.

[16:43] He will watch it on a plane.

Dan McCoy

[16:45] On a plane is where this will probably be watched, I have to say.

Stuart Wellington

[16:48] Okay.

[16:49] So, the third trailer we got, which everyone can queue up now if they would like,

[16:54] is for the A24-produced horror movie Talk to Me.

[16:59] Mm-hmm.

[17:00] Talk to Me.

[17:01] So, check it out, folks.

[17:02] Elliot, did you see this one?

Elliott Kalan

[17:03] What was that one about – because what was strange was –

[17:06] So, spoiler alert, the movie we're doing next week is a horror movie.

[17:09] I was surprised at how almost all the trailers before mine were comedies, were like foul-mouthed comedies.

[17:13] But then there were a couple horrors, but I don't remember what this one was about.

Dan McCoy

[17:17] So, this is – do you remember a papier-mâché hand with a bunch of words on it that is –

[17:23] No.

Stuart Wellington

[17:25] Yeah.

[17:25] I don't think I saw this one.

[17:27] Do you want to take a break and watch this trailer real quick?

[17:31] No.

[17:31] I'd rather hear you describe it to me.

[17:32] Okay.

[17:33] So, the premise of this is as some kind of like a fun party game or like a viral filmed event.

[17:43] It's – at a party, they – this girl holds onto this like papier-mâché hand.

[17:50] Yeah.

[17:51] That looks very menacing.

[17:52] And the idea is like holding onto this hand and saying, talk to me, will bring a spirit into our world for a short period of time.

[18:00] And then by blowing out the candle that you have lit, it'll send that spirit back.

[18:04] But, of course, something bad happens.

[18:07] And, yeah.

[18:09] I mean, like, I don't know.

[18:10] This – it seems like it's the kind of high concept premise that would normally land a movie into prime flophouse Shocktober territory.

[18:20] But it looks pretty good.

Dan McCoy

[18:22] But it looked good to me.

[18:24] I mean, so I saw – when I saw the movie Renfield, which I did not expect to enjoy, I went because I had the aforementioned Alamo pass and my friend invited me.

[18:36] And then I ended up liking it a lot more than I expected.

Stuart Wellington

[18:38] Based on the trailers being bad.

[18:40] Yeah, the trailers.

[18:40] Because we're in Teasertown and that's an important part of Teasertown.

Elliott Kalan

[18:43] The trailers for that one were – they could have gone either way for me.

[18:47] I still haven't seen the movie.

[18:48] But it was like – there was enough in it that I liked, but there was enough in it that rubbed me the wrong way.

Stuart Wellington

[18:53] Yeah.

[18:53] Well, the trailers to me felt like if somebody was trying to make what we do in the shadows but with some, like, shitty, like, special effects heavy action sequences.

Dan McCoy

[19:03] No.

[19:03] I mean, it felt more like sort of an offbeat, like, 90s, like, morbid romantic comedy vibe.

[19:12] Except for there's not that much romance in it at all.

[19:14] But, like, it's got that kind of thing going on.

[19:18] But it was a little weirder than I expected.

[19:19] Anyway, the point is, like, I saw this trailer and the next one we're going to be talking about, but in flipped order.

[19:25] Okay.

[19:25] And maybe it was the lingering after effects of the other trailer, which is also very effective.

[19:30] But I, like, went into this one and I was like, this looks scary.

[19:34] I'm into it.

[19:34] Like, I really – like, it had all the elements of what could be, like, a truth or dare style, like, not very good.

[19:42] Uh-huh.

[19:42] But it was – it just seemed to be, like, shot and framed and there was enough weird imagery that came up later.

[19:48] There's enough weird stuff in it that I like.

Stuart Wellington

[19:51] I like the weird hand.

[19:53] Yeah.

[19:55] I'm a fan of that.

[19:56] So, yeah, I got to say, based on the strength of the trailer, I think this is one I'm going to have to see.

[20:00] Yeah, probably the same.

Elliott Kalan

[20:01] Since I haven't seen the trailer, but based on your summary, I'm going to wait for reviews.

[20:05] But –

[20:05] That makes sense.

[20:06] Fair enough.

[20:06] Okay.

[20:07] You heard the reviews of the trailer.

[20:09] The reviews of the trailer were surprisingly positive, yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[20:13] Yeah.

[20:13] Next trailer, gang, as Dan mentioned, this next one is a trailer for The Boogeyman.

[20:19] So, just look up The Boogeyman on YouTube.

[20:22] I think it's a trailer from about two months ago.

Dan McCoy

[20:25] Just Google The Boogeyman and I'm sure you will –

Stuart Wellington

[20:28] No, Google, like, The Boogeyman trailer 2023 or something.

[20:33] Yeah.

[20:34] I don't – by the way, I checked all of these.

[20:37] I Googled all of these to make sure that they're available.

[20:40] Elliot, did you see this one?

Elliott Kalan

[20:42] It sounds familiar.

[20:43] Tell me about it.

Stuart Wellington

[20:44] Okay.

[20:45] So, the – I mean, the premise is this father played by Chris Messina with a beard.

[20:51] He has a daughter who doesn't like going to sleep because she's got a boogeyman in her room.

Dan McCoy

[20:57] It's a good reason not to go to sleep, yeah.

[20:59] And I got to say –

[21:01] There's also a teenage –

Stuart Wellington

[21:02] There's a teenage kid.

Dan McCoy

[21:03] It seems more focused on them.

[21:05] Chris Messina shows up later, but –

Stuart Wellington

[21:07] And I think the premise also is that he's not around enough.

[21:10] And that's part of the reason the Boogeyman is coming for them.

[21:13] Because, I don't know, maybe Chris Messina has got some other gigs going on.

[21:16] Who knows?

[21:16] Maybe he's in Birds of Prey 2.

[21:20] The –

Elliott Kalan

[21:20] Stuart, I've got some bad news for you.

[21:23] Oh, no.

[21:23] What?

[21:24] About Birds of Prey 2.

[21:25] What?

[21:26] James Gunn says it's back on.

[21:29] Well, we'll talk about it later.

[21:30] We'll talk about it later.

[21:31] Tell me more about the Boogeyman.

[21:31] I did not see this trailer.

[21:32] I'm kind of scanning through this trailer as you talk.

[21:34] I did not see it.

Dan McCoy

[21:35] Also, the guy who played, like –

[21:37] Speaking of James Gunn, the polka dot guy in Suicide Squad shows up at one point to tell

[21:43] Chris Messina that he needs to be paying attention to his kids because he's got, like, a drawing of the scary Boogeyman.

Stuart Wellington

[21:50] That's – wait, David, I can't pronounce his last name.

[21:52] Yeah.

[21:53] It's complicated.

[21:53] I couldn't either.

[21:54] And I certainly can't no-scope it without it in front of me.

[21:58] He – yeah, but he's, like, a big, like, horror movie guy.

[22:01] I know that he's, like, a big –

[22:02] That's –

[22:02] Yeah, he's a big champion of horror movies.

[22:05] And I've seen him, like – I think he's been a guest on the Boulay Brothers show.

[22:10] Yeah.

[22:10] So, that would make sense.

[22:12] Maybe he's involved in the production of the movie or something.

Elliott Kalan

[22:15] And now, according to this trailer, it's from the mind of Stephen King.

[22:19] Now, is this –

[22:20] Oh, right.

[22:20] Just from the mind.

[22:21] It's based on something he wrote or it's just he was asleep and they stole one of his dreams.

[22:24] It's a good question.

Stuart Wellington

[22:25] Now, nobody uses weird slang in the trailer.

[22:30] So –

[22:30] And there's no classic cars.

Elliott Kalan

[22:32] Yeah, any doo-wop music or otherwise, you know, old-timey rock-type stuff or proto-rock?

[22:37] I'd have to double-check.

[22:39] According to this, okay, it's based on a short story.

Dan McCoy

[22:42] Okay.

[22:43] Because it's like, oh, maybe Chris Messina's playing a writer.

[22:45] That would make it –

[22:46] Oh, yeah, yeah.

[22:47] Working.

[22:48] So, I feel like –

[22:49] I think I've read that short story.

Stuart Wellington

[22:49] The actual content of the trailer feels – felt more just like a series of –

[22:56] Unfortunate events.

[22:57] Things – kind of because it's like monster hiding in background.

[23:01] Like a lot of that stuff.

Elliott Kalan

[23:04] So, it's –

[23:05] This is the adaptation of the Where's Waldo books that we've been waiting for all this time.

[23:09] But over development, it turned into a boogeyman movie, you know.

Stuart Wellington

[23:13] It makes sense.

[23:14] I'm going to say, while the trailer seems scary enough, I would say I'm going to put

[23:19] this one up for – I'm going to wait for reviews.

[23:23] Because I think it could kind of go either way.

Dan McCoy

[23:25] I'm more into it than that.

[23:27] I really liked this – I mean, it could just be the way the trailer was cut.

[23:30] But I liked the – it starts off with this sort of gimmick where, you know, the woman is – the little kid is getting therapy for this fear.

[23:41] And the therapist has this red light that turns on and off.

[23:44] And she's like, you know, eventually it will be all the way off.

[23:47] And like the idea in therapy, one supposes is like you can see that there's no difference between when the light is on and when the light is off.

[23:54] But as a suspense element, it was very effective, I thought, and creepy.

[23:59] And I don't know.

[24:00] It seemed like, you know, horror is a director's game.

[24:04] And I mean, not that other movies aren't – it's not very important.

[24:09] But I feel like –

[24:09] Well, no.

Stuart Wellington

[24:09] A musicals are a hockey player's game.

Dan McCoy

[24:12] But I feel like it's so based on, you know, managing tone and like –

[24:17] Yeah, it looked good to me.

[24:21] I'll just cut short what I'm saying.

Stuart Wellington

[24:23] But also like sometimes what works for a trailer or the editing that works in a trailer might be different in the movie, right?

[24:32] True, true.

[24:32] Because for like a longer form horror thing might not work well with a ton of rapid cuts, whereas in a teaser, you know, here in Teasertown, you might want something a little faster.

Elliott Kalan

[24:44] I mean, and to be honest, you can't really trust that what's in the trailer is going to be in the movie, as was the reason for my lawsuit about Ana de Armas being cut out of that movie.

[24:53] Which I won, by the way.

[24:54] Which I won.

[24:55] That movie Rogue won.

Dan McCoy

[24:56] I got clarification that that was not – the lawsuit wasn't won.

[25:02] The judge just allowed it to continue.

[25:06] So you said the judge said –

[25:07] But did not dismiss it out of hand.

[25:08] The judge said, I'll allow it.

[25:10] Yeah, exactly.

Elliott Kalan

[25:11] Well, that's the first hurdle towards winning.

[25:12] But you can't always be sure that the trailer and the movie are edited the same way.

[25:16] That's a good point.

[25:17] Mm-hmm.

Stuart Wellington

[25:18] So, Elliot, based on what we've said, where are you going to land on the boogie?

[25:22] And what little you scan.

[25:23] And knowing that they stole it from the mind of Stephen King.

Elliott Kalan

[25:26] I'm going to wait for reviews and also the outcome of the lawsuit Stephen King has with them for stealing from his mind.

[25:32] I think what little you guys have said and what little I've seen of the trailer I scrubbed through, it feels a little generic to me right now.

[25:39] Okay.

Stuart Wellington

[25:40] Finally, we have one final trailer for us, and then we'll get to hear what Elliot got to see.

[25:45] Our final trailer, of course, was Spider-Man Across the Spider-Verse.

[25:51] The new animated Spider-Man film.

[25:54] Obviously, the first one is like a milestone, amazing achievement in animation.

[25:59] It's a fantastic movie.

[26:00] It's incredible.

Elliott Kalan

[26:00] It's just a fact that it just got the Oscar for best animated film that year.

Stuart Wellington

[26:04] Yeah.

[26:04] Uh-huh.

[26:04] I think it got the Academy Award for best Spider-Man.

[26:09] Which, stiff competition up against Spider-Man 2, the second best superhero movie of all time.

Elliott Kalan

[26:15] Yeah, very true.

[26:16] What would you say is the best superhero movie of all time?

[26:19] Spider-Verse?

[26:20] Maybe Spider-Verse, yeah.

[26:21] Okay.

[26:21] I thought it was very funny when people were like, whenever the best picture winners are,

[26:26] nominees are announced, and they're like, why don't they start nominating the superhero movies,

[26:30] the ones people love?

[26:31] Why doesn't Spider-Man get nominated for best picture?

[26:33] And it's like, well, Spider-Man movie won an Oscar, like, recently.

[26:35] Like, what?

[26:36] Like, someone just, someone just, two men have won for playing the Joker.

[26:40] Like, is there, you know, what more do we need?

[26:42] But anyway, you're saying Spider-Verse.

Stuart Wellington

[26:44] Dude, what about when fucking Flash entered the Speed Force?

[26:48] Yeah, that was the number one stand-up-and-cheer moment.

Elliott Kalan

[26:51] It was amazing.

[26:52] I remember so well where I was when I stood up and cheered, and I could hear the deafening

[26:58] roar of people across the country standing up and cheering all at the same time.

[27:02] It caused a minor earthquake, which unfortunately killed several hundred people in Western Canada,

[27:08] which was, my heart goes out to them.

[27:10] But really, that moment, yeah, wow, couldn't beat it when Flash enters the Speed Force.

[27:15] A moment that I'm not sure I really remember exactly what it is.

Stuart Wellington

[27:18] Man, I kind of wish that, like, my favorite superhero movie, I mean, I feel like it should

[27:23] be, like, Blade II or something.

Dan McCoy

[27:27] So this, I've seen multiple trailers for this movie, since it's a big movie.

[27:32] And I got it.

Elliott Kalan

[27:33] Elliot, have you seen this trailer yet?

[27:34] I don't know that I've seen the most recent one yet.

[27:36] I mean, I know I'm going to see that movie, so I'm kind of staying away from the trailers

[27:39] because I just want to see the movie.

Dan McCoy

[27:42] This one has, it's like Miles' aunt is, like, sort of talking to him throughout most of it.

[27:49] I thought it was his mom.

[27:51] Oh, I see.

[27:51] I don't know that version of Spider-Man enough to, like, the number who.

[27:56] Who's alive and who's dead.

[27:57] Who's alive and who's dead.

[27:59] So his mom's talking to him, and, like, it's, it actually, like, sort of holds it back

[28:06] towards, until the very end.

[28:08] Like, you don't see a lot of, like, exciting stuff.

[28:12] Like, a lot of it is either sort of just.

[28:14] Yeah, because they know they've got you.

[28:15] They don't need to show you a lot of stuff.

[28:17] Well, that's the thing.

Elliott Kalan

[28:17] Like, I've seen.

[28:18] The trailer should just say Spider-Man across the universe, and then there's a voice that

[28:22] just says, did you see the last movie?

[28:24] You're seeing this one.

Dan McCoy

[28:27] That's, that's what, like, the, I want to see this movie.

[28:30] This is one of the most anticipated movies.

[28:32] I loved the last one.

[28:34] This trailer specifically didn't do that much for me, though.

[28:38] Mm-hmm.

[28:38] And, but, like, the thing is, like, honestly.

[28:41] But isn't Spider-Man 2099 in it?

[28:45] I had to sort of adjust to what they were doing.

[28:48] I was not wild about the trailer, and then I saw the movie, and I'm like, oh, this is

[28:52] great.

[28:53] So, I have faith that it'll be.

Stuart Wellington

[28:56] Yeah, I mean, it looks so, it looks great.

[28:58] There was, it used a little bit of footage from the first movie, I think.

[29:02] But for the most part, yeah, I mean, it looks incredible.

[29:05] It looks, there isn't enough, like, linking.

[29:09] There's not enough information to really know what it's about, other than, at least for me,

[29:15] other than going into a universe full of little Spider-Mans of different varieties.

[29:21] But it all, it all looks great.

[29:23] And there's some message about being true to yourself.

[29:26] That's a Spider-Man thing, right?

[29:27] Yeah, Spider-Man's always being, always needing to be true to himself.

[29:30] That's a big thing.

[29:31] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[29:31] And be true to his school.

[29:33] Thank you.

[29:33] I was waiting.

[29:34] Of course, you have to be.

[29:35] You have to be.

Stuart Wellington

[29:36] Okay, so, I mean, I think all three of us are definitely going to see this.

[29:40] The strength of the trailer, maybe, they kind of softball pitched this one

[29:44] this one to us because they knew it was an easy layup.

[29:47] Those are two sports references.

[29:48] I totally understand.

Elliott Kalan

[29:49] This is a time when the marketing department can kind of take a breather.

[29:51] They don't have to put their all into it.

Dan McCoy

[29:54] We've got to figure out how to promote Mordecai 2.

[29:57] More mustaches?

Elliott Kalan

[29:59] That's the name of the movie?

[30:00] Mordecai 2?

[30:01] More mustaches?

Dan McCoy

[30:02] Well, that's the name of the movie and their...

[30:05] And the slogan.

[30:06] Their, yeah, well, their...

[30:09] Advertising campaign.

[30:11] Yes.

[30:11] Sorry.

Stuart Wellington

[30:12] Yep.

[30:12] No, that's correct.

[30:13] Okay, this is actually a really great time for us to take a break

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Elliott Kalan

[30:59] It certainly does, yeah.

[31:00] I think I am going to check out that podcast.

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[32:31] So now that we're back here in teaser town and it's time for some more trailers.

[32:35] That's right.

[32:35] It's trailer time.

[32:36] Elliot, what teasers did you get before your screening of the movie?

Elliott Kalan

[32:40] So I think, Stuart, you mentioned, I don't know if we had mentioned before,

[32:42] the movie that we are talking about in the next episode is, of course, The Pope's Exorcist in theaters now.

[32:46] But not for much longer.

[32:47] It might be out of theaters, actually, by this point.

[32:49] I had to really rush to find it before it left the theaters.

[32:53] And I was surprised.

[32:54] Yeah, they were like taking the reels away as the movie's going.

[32:57] No, no.

[32:57] I had to catch them as they were being hurled into a dumpster out in the back of the theater.

[33:02] So the, although maybe it turns into a great movie.

[33:05] Find out next week in our episode.

[33:07] So I was surprised they didn't show us that many horror trailers.

[33:10] One they did show us was Evil Dead Rise, the trailer for the new Evil Dead movie.

[33:15] In theaters now.

[33:16] In theaters, yeah.

[33:17] I think it's right now.

[33:18] And the, I'm not, it's one that, I'm kind of torn about it.

[33:25] Because there's a lot of neat stuff in the trailer.

[33:28] But at the same time, I don't know if it's what I want from my Evil Dead movies, exactly.

[33:33] But also, it's another one where they're like, hey, let's take this horror thing and put it in like an apartment building in a city.

[33:39] And I already went through that with Scream 6, where they said, hey, let's take a killer and put him in New York.

[33:44] And I'm like, yeah, I did that, dudes.

[33:46] Like, I did that.

[33:47] So, okay.

Stuart Wellington

[33:48] So you're bringing a little, you're bringing a little annoyance to the table.

Elliott Kalan

[33:51] I got a little personal resentment.

[33:52] But I don't know.

[33:53] I mean, what do you guys, what have you guys heard about it?

[33:55] Because I haven't seen any reviews of it yet.

Dan McCoy

[33:57] I've heard good things.

[33:58] Both.

[33:59] The reviews are fairly good.

[34:02] Which, honestly, when it comes to horror movies, unless they're something that is obviously like sort of a critic can latch on to and be like, oh, this is elevated in some way.

[34:16] Like, just sort of like mildly positive horror movie reviews are good enough for me.

[34:23] Like, I think I will probably like it in those situations.

[34:27] And our friends who went and saw it also really liked it.

[34:30] John Mary.

Stuart Wellington

[34:31] We have friends.

[34:32] Yeah.

[34:32] And they saw the movie.

[34:34] Yeah.

[34:34] Did you see, L.A., did you see the 2013 Evil Dead remake that came out?

Elliott Kalan

[34:38] I did not.

[34:39] I still haven't gotten around to seeing it.

Stuart Wellington

[34:40] I got to say, you should check it out.

[34:42] It's fucking gross, dude.

[34:43] Okay, I'll just try it.

[34:44] It's super gory.

[34:45] And the setup is really, like, I really like the premise of setting it up that they're going out of the cabin to, like, help their friend get over drug addiction.

[34:54] And then when, like, fucked up shit starts happening, she has a little bit of trouble being like, is this for real or is this the DTs?

[35:00] Yeah.

[35:01] Like, I think that's a great setup.

[35:02] It's, like, it's a little fucking, like, it's a little sadistic.

[35:06] You know when you're watching, like, I don't, I feel like it came after that, like, the French new wave of, like, horror stuff that's, like, very sadistic.

[35:16] It's, like, inside and martyrs and stuff like that.

[35:18] Yeah, like, the shit where you're like, okay, calm down, everybody.

[35:20] Like, I don't like this.

Elliott Kalan

[35:21] This is not, like, this is not what I go to a horror.

[35:24] This was the entertainment, right?

[35:25] Like, you're not really supposed to be making me upset about the world.

[35:27] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[35:29] But it's still super gory and pretty great.

Dan McCoy

[35:32] I mean, I can understand what you're saying, Elliot, about, like, I'm not sure whether this is what I want out of an Evil Dead movie.

[35:38] But on the other hand, like, I don't know, those movies already exist.

[35:41] So, like, if there's a good version of what they're going to give me.

Elliott Kalan

[35:45] Or even if it's something different but it's just got Evil Dead paint on it.

[35:48] Yeah.

[35:48] You know, like, that's, like, if it's good, it'll be good.

[35:52] I think there's a, like, I guess what it, maybe it's because I'm also thinking about having seen The Pope's Exorcist afterwards where I'm like,

[35:59] I kind of want to see demons inside people's bodies doing different things that I've seen before.

[36:03] Like, crawling on walls and being suddenly like, your mommy's in hell.

[36:07] You know, and stuff like that.

[36:07] Like, I've seen it so many times.

[36:09] Yeah.

[36:09] But maybe there's new stuff and that's just what's in the trailer to get the newbies in to communicate to them, like,

[36:14] what it's like when you're possessed by a deadite or something like that.

[36:17] But, you know, the, I want to see, I always want to see new things.

[36:21] That's my whole thing, man.

[36:22] I want to see new things.

[36:23] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[36:23] You're an explorer on the far reaches of experience.

Elliott Kalan

[36:26] Two new things that I don't think I'm going to see, though, are the other two trailers that I watched before.

[36:32] Okay.

[36:32] The Pope's Exorcist.

Stuart Wellington

[36:34] Wait, we didn't come down with a review.

[36:36] I think.

[36:36] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[36:36] I think I'm going to.

[36:37] I'm going to go see this one.

[36:39] I'm excited.

[36:39] I'll probably see it eventually.

[36:40] I don't know if I'm going to see it in the theaters, but I'll see it eventually.

Dan McCoy

[36:41] I literally keep telling Stuart, you know, tell me when you can see Evil Dead rise and I'll go with you to the movie theater.

[36:48] And for some reason.

[36:50] I'm such a busy boy.

Elliott Kalan

[36:52] As soon as I have a second.

[36:54] Because, Dan, you're being a little too, like, you got to play hard to get.

[36:57] Thirsty.

[36:57] You're being too thirsty.

[36:58] You want it too bad.

[36:59] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[36:59] Yeah, yeah.

[37:00] My DMs are filled with dudes being like, hey, when do you want to see Evil Dead?

Dan McCoy

[37:04] I just know that we both have wives who have avowedly said, not interested.

[37:11] So, it seems like the perfect matchup, you know?

[37:14] Yeah, your work wives, too.

Elliott Kalan

[37:16] Yeah.

[37:16] Yeah, another date night.

[37:18] So, and I was curious about that.

[37:21] I mean, there's that part where she's just cracking eggs and dropping them into a frying pan.

[37:24] And one after another.

[37:25] And I was like, I love that.

[37:25] And I'm like, oh, I'm so hungry.

[37:27] I want all those eggs.

[37:28] Yummy.

[37:28] That is my mind on drugs.

[37:31] Hungry drugs.

[37:32] Anyway, so the other two trailers, though, were also for comedies.

[37:36] I saw so many comedy trailers before this movie.

[37:39] And this one was, one of them was for No Hard Feelings, starring Jennifer Lawrence.

[37:44] The movie in which she is a, like, a mean person.

[37:47] Oh, we did see this one, too.

[37:49] Like a mean person loser who is hired by a family to date their son before he goes to college.

[37:54] Oh, yes.

[37:56] Okay.

[37:56] Everything about this trailer is not for me.

[37:59] It is not what I'm looking for in a movie.

[38:00] It's like, it's a situation I don't believe for a moment with characters that feel like they escaped from, like, a first-level improv show or something like that.

[38:12] And a lot of, like, people accidentally punching each other in the face or something.

[38:15] Like, it was not, it's like a, I don't know.

[38:17] How did you guys feel about it?

[38:18] Maybe the movie is not bad, but the trailer really was hitting all the wrong buttons for me.

Dan McCoy

[38:22] I could see the trailer hitting the wrong buttons.

[38:25] I, I, I'm kind of into it just because, like, I like Jennifer Lawrence, and I think she was a victim of, like, shooting to the top and then people deciding they didn't like her.

[38:37] At the same time, she was, started making some worse career choices.

Elliott Kalan

[38:41] Well, I mean, it also felt like as soon as she started making kind of, like, out of the ordinary movie, interesting movies, people were like, hmm, I don't like you anymore.

Dan McCoy

[38:50] You know?

[38:50] Yeah, but I like the idea, like, she seems like she's cutting loose and having fun, like, playing, like, broad comedy.

[38:58] And I, I like the idea of seeing that, I guess.

Elliott Kalan

[39:00] I like her.

[39:00] I could, I think she's really funny.

[39:02] But, yeah, it's, let's do what we're going to say.

Stuart Wellington

[39:04] I mean, I think, like, I've always been a fan of, like, gross-out comedies and sex comedies.

[39:10] And this kind of seems like one of those.

Elliott Kalan

[39:13] When, like, when, when one of the jokes in the trailer is her walking up to the guy and being like, hey, that's a nice wiener.

[39:20] And he's like, what?

[39:21] And she goes, your wiener dog that you're holding.

[39:23] And it's like.

[39:23] No, that's.

[39:24] Oh, man, that's.

Stuart Wellington

[39:25] Oh, it's nailed it.

[39:27] I love it.

[39:27] That shouldn't be in the trailer.

[39:28] Like, it shouldn't be.

Elliott Kalan

[39:29] But I think it feels like the kind of movie where someone will.

Stuart Wellington

[39:32] I'm not a smart, I'm not a smart comedy writer like you guys.

[39:35] I'm just Joe Sixpack over here.

[39:37] Yeah, she just loved that she said wiener.

[39:39] Wiener dog jokes.

[39:40] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[39:41] It just, it feels, it was, it felt like a movie play.

[39:43] It was playing for someone other than me.

[39:45] But who knows?

[39:46] Sometimes I like crazy gross-out things.

[39:50] On the other end of the spectrum, a comedy, a trailer that felt almost a little too artsy for me, which was the other trailer I saw.

[39:57] Okay.

[39:57] Was the one for Fool's Paradise, which is starring and I think also written and directed by Charlie Day.

[40:03] And maybe he only wrote it also.

[40:05] Oh, I haven't seen this trailer yet.

Stuart Wellington

[40:07] No, describe it for me and then I'll watch it.

Elliott Kalan

[40:08] So it's essentially his version of being there, I guess, where he is a kind of mute, you know, innocent, I guess, who looks just like a movie star.

[40:19] And so he gets.

[40:20] Oh, like Agent 47, yeah.

[40:21] He gets pulled off the street to be that movie star's stunt double and then just is a huge star all of a sudden.

[40:27] And it feels, and it is a, it's one of those movies where somebody who doesn't, who either says very little or doesn't talk, everyone projects onto them exactly what they want.

[40:36] And so they rise to success and suddenly he's on talk shows and he's getting married to a starlet and stuff.

[40:41] And it feels like one of those things where it is a, someone who, it feels like it might be a case of the Stephen King cycle where he did,

[40:51] It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, which came from, it felt like a real place of living in like, living a kind of gross life and doing stuff about people who are losers.

[41:00] But now he's a big successful Hollywood person.

[41:02] So he's got to do like his satire of Hollywood when outside of Hollywood, I don't know how much people really care about like satires of Hollywood necessarily.

[41:10] I don't, I'm interested to see if he's going to hit any, any new things other than the idea that like everyone in Hollywood is just in it for money and backstabbing and blah, blah, blah.

[41:19] But watching it, the trailer is also trying very hard to like throw crazy energy at you.

[41:25] And it may be like a trying a little, much in the way.

Stuart Wellington

[41:29] Like the crazy energy that Kang shoots out of his hand.

Elliott Kalan

[41:32] Kind of, but much the opposite of the way that the Spider-Verse trailer is like, we know you're going to see this movie.

[41:38] Like we don't have to work too hard for this.

[41:40] This movie feels like it's working really hard.

[41:42] The trailer feels like it's working really, really hard and it is a little sweaty in that way.

[41:46] So, but you guys haven't seen this trailer, huh?

[41:48] Maybe it's only playing in Los Angeles or the Los Angeles area for people in the movie industry.

[41:53] Maybe.

Stuart Wellington

[41:54] What, I mean, I feel like we talked about a lot of comedy trailers and I feel like the vast majority of studio comedies seem so focused on also being lifestyle porn.

[42:05] Like there's a certain amount of like, I don't know.

[42:09] I mean, maybe I'm just like extra sensitive to it.

Elliott Kalan

[42:11] I feel like that's movies in general right now and comedies get swept up in that also.

[42:14] Yeah, you're probably right.

[42:16] There's very few, I mean, like a movie like Raising Arizona, I don't see being made nowadays for a number of reasons.

[42:24] But in terms of like they don't make movies that budget too much anymore.

[42:27] But also the fact that like, yeah, you never see a rich person's house.

[42:30] They don't go on a fancy vacation.

[42:32] And it feels like so many, except for horror movies, it feels like almost every movie you have to see a fancy person's house at some point.

Dan McCoy

[42:38] You're saying that Nathan Arizona isn't rich, the owner of all those unfinished Arizona, unpainted Arizona.

Elliott Kalan

[42:47] He is so realistically rich.

[42:50] Like he is, I believe him as the richest guy in that town.

[42:54] But like if they were making Raising Arizona now, it would be like, they would be watching a news story.

[42:58] It would be like the billionaire owner of this sports team had seven babies and it would be shots of helicopters.

[43:05] And he's like, he's bringing the babies on a helicopter to a yacht or something like that.

[43:08] And they're like, and then the trailer would go, boom, we got to steal one of those babies.

[43:13] And then it would just be them.

Stuart Wellington

[43:14] And take that baby back to our, let's say, modestly appointed house in the suburbs.

Elliott Kalan

[43:20] They would live in a upper middle class house.

[43:23] Yeah.

[43:23] In the LA suburbs.

[43:25] Yeah.

[43:25] They wouldn't be, they would not be living in a borderline trailer house, you know, trailer home.

[43:30] It's just, that's one of the, yeah, it's one of the sad things right now is that like, it feels like almost every movie now has some aspect of luxury porn to it.

Stuart Wellington

[43:36] Which is one of the things that I like so much about the Poker Face show is that it did feel like it was highlighting people who live on the kind of like edges of society and not in like lavish luxury all the time.

Elliott Kalan

[43:49] Yeah.

[43:50] And so the, I think there's a, the kinds of comedies that are getting made now for theaters, I think probably are the ones that seem like outrageous enough that you can make a trailer like the ones you've been talking about for those comedies.

Dan McCoy

[44:05] That's the other problem with, I, this is actually where I thought Stuart was going to complain about with comedy trailers.

[44:09] It's just like, I can't, like the best you can do in a comedy trailer often I feel like is to sell the situation and people be like, oh, I can see how that situation would be funny.

[44:21] Yeah.

[44:21] Because like, trailers are bound to like hit the broadest moments because they want the biggest effect out of it.

[44:30] But those moments out of context, like maybe they're funnier in the movie once they've been built to in some way, but they just feel like the lowest brow shenanigans.

[44:39] Or maybe they are that, but like, comedy is based on character and you have to get to know the characters and then laugh at them.

[44:46] Anyway, what are you saying?

Elliott Kalan

[44:47] Well, often, often the biggest, broadest moments and the biggest visual moments in a comedy are often the less funny parts of them.

[44:53] It's the part where there's a car chase or I'm not a fan of Caddyshack.

[44:57] It's not a movie I like, but that boat scene is, I know, I'm sorry, hot take, but that boat scene is particularly the worst scene in the movie.

[45:04] And it's, and if you were making a trailer for Caddyshack now, it would be all boats crashing into each other because those are the big visual punctuation moments.

Stuart Wellington

[45:11] And the poop in the pool.

[45:13] And the poop in the pool would make it.

[45:14] That's a fucking, that's a layup.

Elliott Kalan

[45:16] Yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's your end of the trailer joke for sure.

[45:20] But the, yeah, it's, it's like, well, I mean, part of it is that they've really perfected the method of making trailers for movies like superhero or Christopher Nolan movies where the movie, where it's more about the, you want to know everything about the movie except the anticipation of like one thing that happens in it.

[45:40] You know, where, and comedies are not that.

[45:43] Like, I really miss old comedy trailers where you would have a voiceover that's like, Richie George thought he had it all, but he didn't realize, like, I kind of miss that because.

Stuart Wellington

[45:53] I was actually going over some older trailers for a segment that we're not actually going to get to in trailer time this time.

[45:59] We're going to have to save for the next visit to Teasertown.

[46:02] But I'm shocked at how, how older trailers had so many more voiceovers than modern trailers seem to have.

[46:10] Yes.

[46:11] And specifically the weird, like, hearing certain voiceovers in trailers, like, hits somewhere in my lizard brain.

[46:19] And I'm like, oh, this voice makes me so excited.

Elliott Kalan

[46:22] Well, and like, it used to be, I mean, things, creative things go in cycles, fashion and style and trend things go in cycles.

[46:29] So, like, I think there was a period when people got tired of voiceovers in trailers and, you know, it turned into that in a world, you know, cliche stuff.

Stuart Wellington

[46:35] Like, like the guy who did the voiceover for the Star Wars special edition trailers, if he released just like ASMR erotica tapes, I would be so fucking into it.

[46:46] But talking about Star Wars stuff, yeah.

[46:48] Yeah.

[46:49] I mean, I thought that went with that.

[46:50] Yeah, like, I said erotica, Elliot.

Elliott Kalan

[46:52] But then, I remember it when it felt refreshing, when it was a trailer just made out of clips from the movie with no voiceovers.

[47:00] But now we've gone so far with that, and that's become so caught off.

[47:03] I mean, like, the part where it's like, it keeps, so many trailers that keeps dipping to black.

[47:09] And then there's like a, whoa, whoa, like the stuff everyone's talking about.

[47:12] Like, that's gotten so boring.

Stuart Wellington

[47:14] Maybe a sparse strings arrangement for your horror trailer.

Elliott Kalan

[47:18] Yeah, like, like, Stuart, the segment we aren't going to get to, Stuart asked us to think of some other trailers that stuck out to us.

[47:24] And I kept thinking about the trailer for In the Line of Fire, which had, I think, no footage from the movie in the original teaser.

[47:30] And it's just the year 1963 is on screen, and there's talking as the six ticks, like a clock ticking turns to turn into a nine, so it becomes 1993.

[47:40] And it gets across everything about, like, what happened in 1963 is going to happen in 1993.

[47:44] A president's going to get shot, unless Clint Eastwood can do anything about it.

[47:47] And I remember that trailer having—

[47:48] That's a good-ass trailer.

[47:49] It's a great trailer.

[47:50] And it feels like I miss trailers like that where they're like, we're going to tell you the story, but we're going to tell you the story in the clearest way and in the way that gets across the feel of it rather than just like, here's big moments from the movie.

[48:01] We'll throw them at you.

[48:02] Bam, bam, bam, you know.

Stuart Wellington

[48:03] Another favorite one like that for me, for a movie that was not very good, is the trailer for Leatherface, Texas Chainsaw Massacre 3, where the lady in the lake throws Leatherface as chainsaw, and then, like, lightning hits him.

[48:17] It's so cool.

[48:18] Yeah.

[48:19] And it's not a very good movie, despite the presence of Viggo Mortensen.

Elliott Kalan

[48:22] But it means that you could do those trailers without having the line in the movie that's only there to set up the scene in the trailer.

[48:28] You know, like, you want to hire me to date your son before he goes to college?

[48:33] Like, you don't need that line in the movie because you don't need to cut it into the trailer, you know.

[48:36] Yeah, yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[48:37] That was a line in the Spider-Verse, right?

Elliott Kalan

Stuart Wellington

[48:45] Well, this was a lovely time in Teasertown.

[48:47] I can't wait for our next trailer time.

[48:50] But I think this is going to wrap it up for us today, fellas.

[48:53] Thanks for tuning in.

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[49:01] Love you very much.

[49:02] I'm Stuart Wellington.

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Elliott Kalan

[49:05] Dan McCoy.

[49:06] And Elliot Kalin.

[49:07] I stand by the love part.

[49:08] Dan seemed a little not sure about it, but I'm with it 100%.

[49:11] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[49:12] Okay, thank you so much for tuning in.

[49:14] See you next week.

[49:14] Bye!

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[49:17] Your goodbye is getting so Baroque.

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FH Mini 79 - Trailer Time in Teasertown

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