FH Mini 82 – Tuboy Talkin' Tube to 2 Dudes Today, Yes Way 2

Stuart Wellington

[0:00] Hey there!

[0:05] Clear out those ear holes,

[0:06] because we've got another Flophouse Mini

[0:08] for you to stick in your ear holes.

[0:12] So, okay, because we have a mini.

Elliott Kalan

[0:15] Clear them out to stick something else in.

[0:17] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[0:18] You need to make space for this.

Stuart Wellington

[0:20] Yeah, clear out, make some room.

[0:21] Okay, so this is a Flophouse Mini.

[0:23] It's a mini episode of the normally long Flophouse podcast

[0:27] where we watch a bad movie and talk about it,

[0:29] but instead on one of these minis,

[0:30] we're going to spend slightly less time

[0:31] talking about whatever we want.

[0:33] And tonight we're going to be talking about,

[0:35] we're going to be doing another episode

[0:37] of one of my favorite and one of your favorite shows.

[0:39] That's right.

[0:40] We're doing a little bit of Two Boy

[0:42] talking tube to two dudes today.

[0:44] Yes way!

[0:46] Okay.

[0:47] Okay, indeed.

[0:49] Dan has given you verbal consent to appear in this mini.

[0:53] So, if this is your first time checking out

[0:56] one of these episodes,

[0:57] Two Boy talking tube to two dudes today,

[0:59] yes way!

[0:59] Is where me, Stuart,

[1:01] aka Two Boy,

[1:03] is going to be talking about tube,

[1:04] that's right, television,

[1:06] to two dudes.

[1:07] Which two?

[1:07] These two, Dan and Elliot.

[1:09] Oh, okay.

[1:10] And we're doing it during the day

[1:11] because we recorded this one during the day

[1:13] instead of tonight.

[1:14] And yes way!

[1:14] Because we need some confirmation here.

[1:16] We need some excitement.

[1:17] So, before we get into the meat of this sandwich,

[1:21] while we're still on top of the bread.

[1:23] Just hang on the bread.

[1:24] We're on top of the bread or we're in the bread?

Dan McCoy

[1:26] This represents the bread or we're on top of the bread?

[1:28] We're on top of the bread.

[1:29] I'm on top of the bread looking down on the meat.

Elliott Kalan

[1:33] And the only thing I eat.

Dan McCoy

[1:34] That's some fast shit.

[1:36] What are you, Weird Al Yankovic?

Elliott Kalan

[1:37] They call him Speed Al Yankovic.

[1:41] He's even faster than Weird Al.

[1:42] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[1:43] So, like, imagine...

[1:45] They call him Weird Speed Levitch

[1:46] because Speed Levitch is a weird guy.

Dan McCoy

[1:48] The songs aren't quite as polished or funny, perhaps,

[1:52] but what do you want?

[1:53] I did them right away.

[1:55] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[1:56] Yeah, you can have it fast, good,

[1:58] or what's the other possible thing?

[2:01] Out of control.

[2:02] Or cheap.

[2:03] Yeah, yeah.

[2:04] You got it fast and cheap.

Elliott Kalan

[2:06] This reminds me of Dan's hit song,

[2:08] Live in La Vida Roku,

[2:10] which had no lyrics.

Stuart Wellington

[2:13] Yeah, I gave up after that.

[2:14] Oh, man, the video's just the fucking Roku City backdrop.

[2:19] Well, real quick,

[2:20] while we're still on top of the bread of this sandwich...

[2:22] I forgot where we were.

[2:25] Thank you for reestablishing that.

[2:26] Oh, man.

[2:27] Yeah, it's almost seasoned.

[2:28] Thank you for building that we're on a sandwich.

[2:31] Services turned on.

[2:32] Yeah, so, yeah, yeah.

[2:34] Location exterior sandwich.

Elliott Kalan

[2:36] I'm looking at a picture of a sandwich.

[2:37] It says,

[2:38] you are here,

[2:38] and it's pointing to the top of the bread.

[2:40] Great.

Stuart Wellington

[2:41] So, before we get into this sandwich,

[2:43] I just want to point out real quick

[2:45] that, again,

[2:46] we're going to be talking about television

[2:47] and what is essential to television.

[2:50] That's right, writers.

[2:51] Writers are the ones who write it,

[2:52] and they're currently on strike.

[2:54] Now, I'm not a member of the WGA.

[2:56] However,

[2:57] I like to consider myself an ally.

[3:00] And these two dudes are.

[3:02] So, please,

[3:03] Ellie,

[3:03] I'm sure we're going to talk about it a little bit more,

[3:05] and we'll talk briefly about how you can support the writers

[3:08] that write the shows that you love,

[3:10] and I love, too,

[3:11] because that's what we're talking about today.

[3:12] We're talking, too,

[3:13] with two dudes and me.

[3:14] So,

[3:16] guys,

[3:16] we are right in the middle.

[3:18] We're recording this in the middle of a week

[3:20] when a bunch of series finales are coming out.

[3:24] The series finale for Succession dropped.

[3:26] The series finale of Barry dropped.

[3:29] The series finale for Mrs. Maisel dropped.

[3:32] I think the series finale of Ted Lasso dropped.

Elliott Kalan

[3:36] And it was all one big crossover.

[3:37] That was the amazing thing.

[3:39] You had to watch all of them.

Stuart Wellington

[3:40] It was, yeah.

[3:40] If you don't watch them all,

[3:41] you're only getting half the story.

[3:43] Yeah.

[3:44] So, what I want to talk about now, guys,

[3:46] this is going to require a little bit of work,

[3:48] so I hope you weren't planning on kicking up your heels

[3:50] and cooling out.

Dan McCoy

[3:52] Well, can I cool out without kicking up my heels?

Stuart Wellington

[3:55] No, you can't cool out or kick up heels.

[3:57] You have to commit to doing zero.

Elliott Kalan

[4:00] You got to heat up and punch down those heels.

Stuart Wellington

[4:04] So, we are not going to be spoiling

[4:06] any of the series finales

[4:07] that we have already mentioned.

Elliott Kalan

[4:09] Not the least of which,

[4:10] because I haven't watched any of them

[4:11] and don't know if I'm going to watch any of them.

Dan McCoy

[4:13] Okay.

[4:13] Well, you're potentially missing out.

[4:14] Well, if the second one is true,

[4:16] then it seems like you shouldn't care about spoilers.

[4:18] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[4:19] Then you should lick them up.

[4:20] You should be like,

[4:21] the way I handled the later seasons,

[4:23] well, most of the seasons of Game of Thrones.

[4:25] Yeah.

[4:25] It's just by reading.

[4:26] It's a saver.

[4:26] Yeah.

[4:26] By reading spoilery reviews,

[4:29] because I'm like,

[4:29] I don't want some rando telling me

[4:31] what happened on Game of Thrones.

[4:32] The books aren't even out yet.

[4:34] I don't know what's going to happen.

Elliott Kalan

[4:35] You want a Ronto telling you

[4:36] what happened on Game of Thrones.

Stuart Wellington

[4:37] I would love a Ronto to tell me.

[4:40] Can they talk?

Elliott Kalan

[4:40] Can they talk?

[4:41] And then Jawa falls off and goes,

[4:41] probably not.

[4:43] Okay.

Stuart Wellington

[4:44] So it would be charades.

Elliott Kalan

[4:46] I imagine there's some cut scene

[4:49] from the special edition

[4:50] where Ronto turns to the camera

[4:52] and says,

[4:52] it's a living,

[4:53] and then poops on someone

[4:54] and they fall over.

Stuart Wellington

[4:55] Poops into another dinosaur,

[4:57] no, alien's mouth,

[4:58] and the alien's like,

[4:59] it's a living,

[5:00] and then it poops into

[5:01] a different alien's mouth,

[5:03] and I'm like,

[5:03] oh my God.

[5:04] It goes down.

[5:04] And that last alien,

Elliott Kalan

[5:06] it poops into another alien's mouth,

[5:07] and that alien turns to the camera

[5:08] and says,

[5:09] I do it for pleasure.

[5:11] Yeah.

[5:12] I pay for this.

[5:13] They're the ones doing it for,

[5:14] I'm allowing them to do for a living.

Dan McCoy

[5:16] At the end of this dino centipede,

[5:18] there's nothing but happiness.

[5:19] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[5:22] This human centipede

[5:23] is 30% satisfied.

Stuart Wellington

[5:25] We're going to do

[5:26] a little exercise here

[5:28] since I'm with two

[5:29] professional writers.

[5:31] What I would like,

[5:32] what I want to do today,

[5:33] ironically,

Elliott Kalan

[5:34] not a lot of exercise

[5:35] in that profession.

Stuart Wellington

[5:36] We are going to,

[5:37] we are going to describe

[5:39] what happens

[5:41] on the series finale

[5:44] of one of your favorite

[5:45] series finales.

[5:46] I'm sure you have

[5:47] a couple in your head.

[5:48] And I want you to describe it

[5:49] in a way that is

[5:50] as non-spoilery as possible.

[5:53] However,

[5:54] we don't want to cross over

[5:56] into the

[5:57] what happens next week

[5:58] on Mad Men line,

[6:00] where it's just people

[6:01] opening doors

[6:01] and closing doors,

[6:02] and you're like,

[6:03] I have no,

[6:03] fucking idea

[6:04] what could be happening

[6:05] in my office.

Elliott Kalan

[6:06] I know this next episode,

[6:07] someone is going to enter

[6:08] someone else's office

[6:08] and close the door

[6:09] of that office,

[6:10] but I don't know

[6:11] the context of it.

Stuart Wellington

[6:12] So you don't want to go

[6:13] all the way to do that.

[6:15] So for instance,

[6:16] I'm going to,

[6:16] I'll start,

[6:17] since this is a little bit

[6:18] of a game,

[6:18] let's see how well I can do here.

[6:21] So I'm going to pick

[6:23] one of my favorite

[6:24] series finales,

[6:26] something my wife and I enjoyed

[6:27] was The Shield.

[6:29] Okay.

[6:30] And The Shield

[6:31] spent most of the run

[6:32] with bad boy cop

[6:34] Vic Mackey,

[6:35] played by Michael Chiklis,

[6:36] that's right,

[6:37] the commish,

[6:38] and his buddy Shane,

[6:41] played by,

[6:42] that's right,

[6:43] Walton Goggins,

[6:44] getting into all kinds

[6:45] of trouble

[6:45] and doing things

[6:46] that are quite unbecoming

[6:47] of an officer of the law,

[6:49] or so you would think.

[6:50] And so,

[6:52] the,

[6:53] let's see.

[6:53] Or a vice principal

[6:54] for that matter.

[6:54] Or a vice principal

[6:56] or a righteous gemstone.

[6:57] Yeah.

[6:58] Or a,

[7:00] I guess kind of

[7:01] what you'd expect

[7:01] a Boyd Crowder to be.

Elliott Kalan

[7:02] Yeah,

[7:03] I don't expect Boyd Crowder

[7:04] to be following the rules.

[7:05] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[7:06] So,

[7:07] let's see.

[7:08] I'm going to say

[7:09] in the series finale

[7:11] of The Shield,

[7:12] I can't give anything away.

[7:14] Let's see.

[7:17] Characters that we know

[7:19] face,

[7:23] some consequences

[7:26] for their actions.

[7:28] Uh-huh.

[7:31] Uh,

[7:31] truths are revealed.

[7:34] Uh-huh.

[7:37] Okay,

[7:37] yeah.

[7:38] Yeah.

[7:39] The police are involved.

[7:41] Okay,

[7:41] well,

[7:42] it's a cop show,

[7:42] so that,

[7:43] um.

[7:44] Some people

[7:46] end up

[7:47] disappointed.

[7:49] Uh-huh.

[7:52] That's it.

[7:52] Okay,

[7:57] how'd I do?

[7:58] Did you guys,

Elliott Kalan

[7:59] did I ruin it for you?

[8:00] I think you did a good job

[8:01] of not spoiling it for me.

[8:02] You did a good job

[8:04] of giving me a sense

[8:05] of how you felt

[8:06] about the series finale.

[8:07] How did you feel about it?

Stuart Wellington

[8:08] Were you one of those people

[8:09] who were disappointed?

[8:10] Okay,

[8:10] no,

[8:11] no.

[8:11] I wasn't.

[8:11] It's one of my favorites,

[8:12] so let's see.

[8:13] Um,

[8:14] it surprised me

[8:17] and was

[8:21] harsh.

[8:23] Hmm.

Elliott Kalan

[8:25] Okay,

[8:26] okay.

[8:26] Is that okay?

[8:28] Okay,

[8:28] and where do you,

[8:29] what do you score it

[8:29] on the,

[8:30] uh,

[8:30] on the finalometer?

Stuart Wellington

[8:32] Uh,

[8:32] what are the,

[8:33] what are the criterias

[8:34] on the finalometer?

Elliott Kalan

[8:35] There's two criteria,

[8:36] audience satisfaction

[8:37] and closure,

[8:38] sense of closure.

Stuart Wellington

[8:40] Okay,

[8:40] so I would say,

[8:41] I would say high on both.

[8:44] Okay,

Elliott Kalan

[8:45] okay,

[8:45] that's good.

[8:46] Okay,

[8:46] so the shield,

[8:48] uh,

[8:48] the shield,

[8:48] you have to go through

Stuart Wellington

[8:49] a lot of seasons

[8:50] and depending on

[8:51] what your emotional state is,

[8:53] some of those seasons

[8:53] are going to be difficult.

[8:55] Hmm.

[8:56] Uh,

[8:57] it is a show that

[8:58] when I started it,

[8:58] I was like,

[8:59] I don't know if I want to see

[9:00] another show that glorifies,

[9:01] uh,

[9:02] the police.

[9:02] And then after watching,

[9:04] uh,

[9:04] a bit of it,

[9:05] I'm like,

[9:05] oh,

[9:05] this show does the opposite of that.

[9:08] It really radicalized you.

[9:10] Yeah.

[9:11] That was,

[9:11] that was the thing.

Dan McCoy

[9:13] Sorry,

[9:13] I was zoning out

[9:14] because I was thinking about,

[9:15] you know,

[9:16] having to,

[9:16] having to do this.

Elliott Kalan

[9:17] Yeah,

[9:18] yeah,

[9:18] having to,

[9:18] yeah,

[9:18] I'm not judging you.

Dan McCoy

[9:20] I'll go up.

[9:21] I'll go up next.

Elliott Kalan

[9:22] If you want me to go next,

[9:23] you can zone out a little bit more.

[9:24] No,

[9:24] no,

[9:24] I,

Dan McCoy

[9:25] no,

[9:26] I zone out because I have one.

[9:27] Oh,

[9:28] okay.

[9:28] Okay.

[9:29] Uh,

[9:29] so I'm going to go with

[9:30] Buffy the Vampire Slayer

[9:32] because it's a,

[9:32] it's a finale that I think

[9:34] I can remember pretty well,

[9:35] even though,

[9:36] obviously the rules of this game

[9:37] don't really require you

[9:38] to remember it all that well.

[9:40] probably not.

[9:41] It could hurt me,

[9:42] if anything.

[9:44] Um,

[9:45] uh,

[9:45] a show obviously

[9:46] that's become a little harder

[9:47] to watch now that we know

[9:48] more about Joss Whedon,

[9:49] but as Chris McCarpenter,

[9:50] who's great on Twitter,

[9:51] has pointed out.

Elliott Kalan

[9:52] No spoilers about Joss Whedon's,

[9:53] uh,

[9:53] alleged horrible behavior.

[9:55] Yeah,

Dan McCoy

[9:55] my spoiler is,

[9:56] there's no H in his name.

[9:58] Um,

[9:58] what?

Elliott Kalan

[10:01] As Chris McCarpenter.

[10:02] But at least there's one

[10:03] in Whedon,

[10:03] right?

Stuart Wellington

[10:04] Elliot's going to have to get

[10:04] that tattoo fixed.

Dan McCoy

[10:08] Who is a delight on Twitter

[10:09] has said,

[10:10] you know,

[10:10] it's a show that is much bigger

[10:11] than one,

[10:12] one person.

[10:13] And,

[10:13] uh,

[10:13] sometimes,

[10:15] uh,

[10:15] you know,

[10:16] things get lost.

[10:18] The,

[10:18] the,

[10:18] the artistic contributions

[10:19] of other people get lost

[10:21] when,

[10:21] uh,

[10:21] unfortunately,

[10:23] the person at the helm.

[10:23] you're saying the same thing

[10:24] about the Cosby show.

[10:25] Turns out to be a weasel.

[10:27] Well,

[10:28] I was,

[10:28] uh,

[10:28] I mean,

[10:28] that's true.

[10:29] I mean,

[10:29] like,

[10:30] Cosby is a monster,

Elliott Kalan

[10:32] but anyway.

[10:34] I would say,

[10:34] uh,

[10:34] that,

[10:35] uh,

[10:35] to,

[10:35] uh,

[10:35] to,

[10:35] uh,

Elliott Kalan

[10:35] to,

[10:35] uh,

[10:36] to,

[10:37] uh,

[10:38] uh,

[10:39] uh,

[10:39] it is a,

[10:40] it is a common thing,

[10:41] especially in today's idea

[10:43] of auteur driven TV.

[10:44] It is a common thing to not

[10:46] recognize the contributions of not

[10:49] just the other writers on staff,

[10:51] because it's not like Joss Whedon

[10:52] wrote every episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer,

[10:54] but also the many people involved

[10:56] in its creative work from the

[10:58] directors to the editors,

[10:59] the performers,

[11:00] to the crew,

[11:01] uh,

[11:01] to people who just,

[11:02] who through their technical work are,

[11:04] the people operating the cameras,

[11:05] operating the sound equipment,

[11:06] people doing the makeup,

[11:07] everyone involved,

[11:08] uh,

[11:08] has a contribution that they're making

[11:10] to it and a valuable contribution

[11:12] at that.

[11:12] And it is because of that,

[11:13] partly,

[11:14] in order to protect that,

[11:15] uh,

[11:15] creative industry and those

[11:16] contributions,

[11:17] the writer's skills on strike,

[11:18] but we need to talk about that

[11:19] right now.

[11:20] But I did want to say this is a

[11:21] good opportunity,

[11:22] a good opening,

[11:23] just to recognize that,

[11:24] um,

[11:25] this idea of one person

[11:27] being behind it all has always

[11:28] been a fiction in film for a long

[11:30] time,

[11:31] and it's a new fiction in television,

[11:33] but it is a fiction for both.

[11:35] It takes a lot of people to do

[11:36] these things,

[11:37] and all of them are necessary.

[11:39] Dan,

[11:39] tell us about the end of

[11:40] Buffy the Vampire Killer.

Dan McCoy

[11:43] Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

[11:45] Uh,

[11:46] you know,

[11:46] as we know,

[11:48] our titular vampire slayer is

[11:50] still out there fighting evil.

[11:52] Okay.

[11:53] And we knew that?

[11:54] And the finale,

[11:55] uh,

[11:56] just as has been true

[11:58] for the previous,

[12:00] uh,

[12:00] season's finales,

[12:02] uh,

[12:03] the big bad,

[12:05] the fight with them,

[12:07] it comes to a head.

[12:08] Okay.

[12:09] Uh-huh.

[12:09] Okay, okay.

[12:11] Um,

[12:12] something happens that,

[12:16] uh,

[12:18] changes,

[12:19] Walters the Slayer mythos.

[12:23] Uh,

[12:23] okay.

[12:25] Uh,

[12:25] going,

[12:26] going forward,

[12:27] I guess,

[12:27] into the comics.

[12:29] The show is over,

[12:30] right?

[12:30] Yeah.

[12:32] Uh,

[12:33] certain people,

[12:34] perhaps,

[12:35] are lost along the way.

[12:37] Okay.

[12:39] All of them forever?

[12:41] Question mark?

[12:42] Oh,

[12:43] okay.

Elliott Kalan

[12:44] So,

[12:44] even that sentence

[12:45] wasn't spoiled for me.

Dan McCoy

[12:48] And,

[12:49] uh,

[12:50] things

[12:51] generally

[12:52] end on a cheerful note.

Stuart Wellington

[12:59] Okay,

[12:59] and now tell us about the comics.

Dan McCoy

[13:01] Uh,

[13:02] the comics were not very good.

[13:03] They were sold to me

[13:04] as a direct continuation

[13:06] of the show.

[13:07] But the show,

[13:08] honestly,

[13:09] as much as I love it,

[13:10] had been in a slight

[13:11] creative decline

[13:12] after season five,

[13:14] season six and seven.

[13:15] How many seasons do you have?

[13:16] I think in my weakest seven.

[13:17] Oh,

[13:18] that's not too bad.

[13:18] Um,

[13:19] one for each deadly sin.

Stuart Wellington

[13:22] Whoa,

[13:22] that's,

[13:22] that's how they did it?

Dan McCoy

[13:24] I assume?

[13:25] It's,

[13:25] you know,

[13:26] the comics were fine,

[13:28] but,

[13:30] uh,

[13:30] after a certain point.

Elliott Kalan

[13:31] All right.

[13:32] Well,

[13:32] that was less funny

[13:33] than I thought the answer might be.

[13:34] So,

Elliott Kalan

[13:34] never mind.

Stuart Wellington

[13:36] Okay,

[13:37] so where do,

[13:37] where do we,

[13:38] yeah,

[13:38] where do you rate this finale,

[13:39] uh,

[13:40] on those two,

[13:41] uh,

[13:41] on the finale meter?

Dan McCoy

[13:43] It's a pretty satisfying finale.

[13:44] It doesn't,

[13:46] as I said,

[13:46] I think that the show

[13:47] kind of went downhill

[13:48] towards the end,

[13:49] so,

[13:51] it could not

[13:51] go out on top

[13:53] like some of the best finales,

[13:54] but I,

[13:54] I'd give it like a seven.

[13:56] Okay.

[13:57] Oh,

[13:57] the same number?

Stuart Wellington

[13:58] As Seasons and Deadly Sins.

[13:59] Yeah.

[14:01] Wow,

[14:01] okay.

[14:01] Okay,

[14:02] and,

[14:02] uh,

[14:03] yeah,

[14:03] I guess

[14:03] there's not too many spoilers there.

Elliott Kalan

[14:08] Okay,

[14:09] okay,

[14:09] let's do it.

[14:09] I didn't think it was going to be possible

[14:11] for me to have less of an idea

[14:12] of what happens

[14:13] than in Stuart's summary,

[14:14] and yet,

[14:15] you did it,

[14:15] Dan.

[14:16] You did it.

Stuart Wellington

[14:16] Oh,

[14:16] man,

[14:16] we're killing it today.

[14:18] Yeah.

[14:18] Okay,

[14:18] Elliot,

[14:19] why don't we,

[14:20] uh,

[14:20] why don't you jump in this game?

Elliott Kalan

[14:22] All right,

[14:22] now,

[14:22] I'm going to jump in.

[14:23] Now,

[14:23] uh,

[14:23] the first show that came to mind,

[14:25] uh,

[14:25] was one of my favorite shows,

[14:26] The Prisoner,

[14:27] and yet,

[14:28] I already did a podcast

[14:29] where I talked about that finale

[14:30] with John Hodgman.

[14:31] It's called,

[14:32] uh,

[14:32] Be Potting You,

[14:33] and it's available on Maximum Fun.

[14:34] So go listen to that.

[14:35] It's a four-episode podcast miniseries.

[14:37] Uh,

[14:37] and so then I started thinking about

[14:38] what's another show I liked more recently,

[14:40] and a show I really was a big fan of

[14:42] was Hannibal,

[14:44] the show all about serial killers

[14:46] and cannibals,

[14:47] and conversations.

[14:49] He's a cannibal?

[14:50] Oh,

[14:50] sorry,

[14:51] spoiler.

[14:51] And conversations made out of loaded questions.

Dan McCoy

[14:54] And arranging corpses

[14:56] and artistic tableaus.

Elliott Kalan

[14:57] Arranging corpses.

[14:58] The show that was,

[14:59] that was as baroque in its visuals

[15:01] as it was erotic in its atmosphere.

[15:04] Uh,

[15:04] and in the season finale,

[15:07] uh,

[15:08] so,

[15:09] Series finale.

[15:09] Series finale,

[15:10] sorry,

[15:10] Series finale.

[15:11] Uh,

[15:11] this was the third season,

[15:13] I believe.

[15:13] And,

[15:13] uh,

[15:14] I have to admit,

[15:15] that season I was not as huge a fan of.

[15:17] They,

[15:17] they took a long time

[15:18] adapting Richard Harris's

[15:20] actual Hannibal novels,

[15:23] uh,

[15:23] for a while.

[15:24] And,

[15:24] as much as I loved every moment

[15:27] when,

[15:27] like,

[15:27] a drop of blood would fall into a bathtub

[15:29] and you just follow that drop

[15:31] as it,

[15:32] you know,

[15:32] spiraled on down

[15:33] and was dissolved.

[15:35] Uh,

[15:35] I wasn't enjoying the story that much

[15:37] and there were certain points

[15:37] where it was like,

[15:38] wait,

[15:38] so there's like electric eels

[15:39] or in his butt or something

[15:41] that I just didn't,

[15:42] that I,

[15:42] I just,

[15:42] I just couldn't quite,

[15:44] I couldn't crap,

[15:44] I couldn't wrap my mind around.

[15:46] I was gonna say,

[15:46] I couldn't crap my mind around,

[15:47] but I couldn't do that either.

[15:49] Uh,

[15:49] but I thought that the,

[15:51] the season really picked up,

[15:52] uh,

[15:53] as they,

[15:53] the final,

[15:54] the,

[15:54] the end story was,

[15:55] um,

[15:56] I forget if it was an adaptation,

[15:57] I think it was an adaptation of Red Dragon,

[15:58] I can't remember,

[15:59] but,

[16:00] uh,

[16:00] but the,

[16:01] uh,

[16:01] but at the end.

Stuart Wellington

[16:02] A thing that has been adapted in two other,

[16:04] in two movies.

[16:04] Has it been adapted two other times

Elliott Kalan

[16:05] and I think is,

[16:07] I think is up there with the,

[16:09] it was adapted as Manhunter

[16:10] and then as the movie Red Dragon.

[16:12] It's better than the movie Red Dragon.

[16:14] And I think.

[16:15] By far.

[16:16] By far.

[16:16] And it's up there with Manhunter

[16:17] in a lot of ways.

[16:18] Yeah,

[16:18] it's up there with Manhunter.

[16:19] I mean,

[16:19] there's,

[16:20] for me,

[16:20] you know,

[16:21] there's nobody who can beat Tom Noonan

[16:22] as a super scary dude.

[16:24] Uh,

[16:24] but still.

[16:25] Uh,

[16:26] yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[16:26] Richard Armitage is not bad,

[16:28] especially when you consider

[16:29] that he was a dwarf.

Dan McCoy

[16:31] Yeah.

[16:31] And also,

[16:32] I'm,

[16:32] you know,

[16:32] I'm a 40 something year old man.

[16:34] If you show me Manhunter

[16:36] and I'm just gonna go into like

[16:37] this synth wave,

[16:38] like,

[16:39] pleasure coma.

[16:40] Oh,

Dan McCoy

[16:40] yeah.

[16:40] Just like,

[16:41] neon and,

[16:42] you know,

[16:43] I don't know,

[16:44] just blue lights everywhere.

[16:45] Speaking of,

Elliott Kalan

[16:46] speaking of synth,

[16:46] the,

[16:47] the,

[16:47] I was,

[16:47] I've been watching Simpsons episodes

[16:49] with my older son,

[16:50] which he hasn't seen before.

[16:51] And we watched the Mr. Plow episode.

[16:52] And there's the,

[16:53] a part where Homer is driving his plow

[16:55] against or across a rope bridge

[16:57] and the music,

[16:58] and it's like the scene in Sorcerer

[16:59] and the music is all synthy.

[17:00] And I was like,

[17:01] oh,

[17:02] now I understand this joke.

[17:03] Because when,

[17:04] when this first aired,

[17:05] when I was like 11,

[17:06] I had not seen Sorcerer.

[17:07] I was not familiar with it.

[17:10] And your parents didn't take you aside

[17:12] and explain it.

[17:13] But you had seen Wages of Fear.

[17:13] Yeah,

[17:13] yeah.

[17:14] You were like,

[17:14] oh,

[17:14] it's like Wages of Fear.

[17:16] I was like,

[17:16] it's like Wages of Fear,

[17:17] but like,

[17:17] why the music?

[17:18] I don't understand.

[17:19] Clouseau wasn't working with,

[17:20] with synth in his,

[17:21] in his soundtrack.

[17:22] Yeah.

[17:23] So,

[17:23] so I'm gonna,

[17:24] but let's see,

[17:25] let's describe this,

[17:26] this ending to this series finale.

[17:29] Okay,

[17:29] so there's a,

[17:30] there's a disagreement

Stuart Wellington

[17:32] between our main characters.

[17:35] Who's in it?

Elliott Kalan

[17:36] There's a disagreement

[17:37] between our,

[17:37] between our main characters

[17:38] and our,

[17:40] not main character,

[17:41] but recurring character.

[17:43] Mm-hmm.

[17:44] The,

[17:44] the two main characters

[17:45] find both

[17:46] common ground

[17:48] and also disagreement.

[17:50] Okay.

[17:51] There is a very memorable hug

[17:53] and,

[17:54] uh,

[17:55] Jillian Anderson

[17:56] prepares a meal

[17:57] for someone.

[17:58] Yeah.

[18:00] And,

[18:01] that's the series finale

[18:02] of Hannibal.

Stuart Wellington

[18:05] Oh,

[18:05] yeah,

[18:06] okay.

[18:06] Well,

[18:06] I feel like,

[18:07] I feel like Elliot

[18:08] got a little more detail

[18:09] in his than we got

[18:10] into ours,

[18:11] but,

[18:11] yeah,

[18:12] but it's still

[18:12] pretty vague.

[18:14] Pretty vague.

[18:14] You don't know what the,

Elliott Kalan

[18:15] you don't know what the context

[18:16] of the hug is.

[18:17] No.

[18:17] And you don't know

[18:17] who Jillian Anderson

[18:19] is preparing the meal for

Stuart Wellington

[18:20] or what she's preparing.

[18:21] Yep.

[18:21] Okay.

[18:23] Uh,

[18:23] well,

[18:23] that was fun,

[18:24] guys.

[18:24] Series finales,

[18:25] you gotta love them.

Dan McCoy

[18:27] Okay,

[18:27] good takeaway.

Stuart Wellington

[18:31] Okay,

[18:31] so the,

[18:32] uh,

[18:32] the next part

[18:33] of this little episode,

[18:34] I wanna talk about

[18:35] a thing I started

[18:36] watching recently

[18:36] because I'm very

[18:37] excited about it.

[18:38] Uh,

[18:39] I just started watching

[18:40] the new

[18:40] Dead Ringers show,

[18:42] which is,

[18:43] of course,

[18:44] adapted,

[18:44] uh,

[18:45] from the David Cronenberg

[18:46] movie,

[18:47] and I have another

[18:48] little deadly game

[18:50] for the two of you.

[18:51] Okay.

[18:51] I would like the two

[18:53] of you to collaborate

[18:54] on a pitch for me.

[18:56] Can you pitch for me

[18:57] a TV reimagining

[19:00] of a David Cronenberg

[19:01] that twists it

[19:02] in a way

[19:03] that makes it

[19:03] appropriate

[19:04] for my

[19:05] modern eyeballs?

[19:08] Appropriate

[19:09] how?

[19:10] I mean,

[19:10] it'd be kind of,

Elliott Kalan

[19:10] honestly,

[19:11] would be to tone

[19:12] it down,

[19:12] probably.

[19:13] I feel like

[19:13] David got away

[19:14] with a lot

[19:15] in the 70s

[19:15] and 80s.

[19:16] So,

[19:16] Dan,

[19:17] okay,

[19:17] let's talk about

[19:18] what Cronenberg

[19:19] were adapting.

[19:20] I mean,

[19:20] it feels like

[19:21] the easy way to go,

[19:22] and I don't want

[19:23] to go that way,

[19:23] it would be

[19:23] a history of violence.

[19:24] I don't want

[19:25] to go that way.

[19:25] Okay,

Stuart Wellington

[19:26] too easy.

[19:26] I feel like

[19:27] if you want

[19:27] to take it easy

[19:28] on yourself,

[19:28] you pick any

[19:29] of those three

[19:30] movies.

[19:31] Except for Spider.

Elliott Kalan

[19:32] Spider would not

[19:33] be an easy one

[19:34] to adapt

[19:34] into a TV show.

Dan McCoy

[19:35] Also,

[19:36] the dead zone

[19:39] would be too easy

[19:40] and has already

[19:41] been adapted.

[19:42] I feel like

Elliott Kalan

[19:42] Scanners,

[19:43] I think,

[19:43] Scanners may have

[19:44] been a television show

[19:45] also at some point,

[19:46] wasn't it?

Dan McCoy

[19:46] Scanners feels like

[19:47] it would be

[19:49] pretty easily adapted

[19:50] to a TV show.

Elliott Kalan

[19:52] There's good guy,

[19:53] bad guy psychics,

[19:54] they're making

[19:54] each other's heads

[19:55] blow up,

[19:55] everyone's wearing

[19:56] puffy vests

[19:56] over flannel shirts.

[19:57] Yeah,

[19:57] that's a TV show already.

[19:59] So,

Elliott Kalan

[19:59] let's say,

[20:00] so what's a hard,

[20:01] The Fly would be

[20:02] not that difficult.

[20:04] Videodrome.

[20:05] Now,

[20:05] let's talk about

[20:05] Videodrome.

[20:06] But how are you

[20:06] going to twist it?

[20:08] Because,

[20:08] well,

[20:08] the thing is,

[20:09] Videodrome is already

[20:10] about the televisual medium.

[20:11] So,

[20:11] that's why I think,

[20:12] let's try to do

[20:13] a TV show out of that.

[20:14] Okay,

[20:14] so,

[20:15] Videodrome,

[20:16] here's one twist,

[20:17] James Woods would not

[20:17] be the star of this

[20:18] television version

[20:19] of Videodrome.

Stuart Wellington

[20:20] Well,

[20:20] I mean,

[20:20] I think often is the case,

[20:22] it's not like Jeremy Irons

[20:23] is in the Dead Ringers

[20:24] TV show.

[20:25] True,

[20:25] true,

[20:26] yeah.

[20:26] Instead,

[20:26] they do the smartest

[20:28] thing a TV show

[20:29] can do,

[20:30] and they cast Rachel Weisz

[20:31] and she plays two characters.

Elliott Kalan

[20:35] They advertised,

[20:36] they said,

[20:36] Dead Ringers twice the vice.

[20:38] This time,

[20:39] our vice is twice.

[20:40] And people were like,

[20:41] oh,

[20:41] fantastic.

[20:44] They also tried,

[20:45] they had the double rainbow guy,

[20:47] double rainbow guy

[20:47] on the commercials going,

[20:48] double Rachel,

[20:49] what does it mean?

[20:50] And that did not test as well,

[20:52] that advertisement.

Dan McCoy

[20:53] Now,

[20:54] here's the problem.

[20:55] Okay.

[20:55] That I foresee for us

[20:57] with Videodrome.

[20:58] Okay.

[20:58] Because if you're going to

[20:59] modernize it right,

[21:00] I feel like it has to be,

[21:03] you know,

[21:04] internet streaming,

[21:05] something like that.

[21:06] Yeah,

[21:06] streaming.

[21:06] The villain that is

Elliott Kalan

[21:07] destroying our industry.

[21:08] Yeah,

[21:09] streaming.

Dan McCoy

[21:09] Sure.

[21:10] But the thing is,

[21:12] I guess I fear,

[21:14] I fear to tread there

[21:15] because there have been

[21:17] so many bad horror movies

[21:20] about the internet.

[21:22] Like,

Elliott Kalan

[21:23] I feel like-

[21:24] You're right,

[21:24] Dan.

[21:24] It's impossible to make art

[21:26] about the internet

[21:27] and have it be good.

[21:28] Can you believe this guy?

[21:29] Wait,

[21:29] I'm looking to the audience.

[21:30] I'm doing like a

[21:31] John Musitsky in the office

[21:32] look to the audience.

[21:33] I am saying-

[21:33] Can you believe this guy?

Stuart Wellington

[21:34] I am saying that like-

[21:36] There's been good horror movies

[21:37] about the internet.

[21:38] The fucking social network,

[21:39] dude.

[21:39] People have-

[21:40] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[21:41] Probably one of the best-

[21:42] People have tried so hard

[21:44] to be like,

[21:45] what is scary

[21:46] about the internet?

[21:47] And the thing is,

[21:48] like,

[21:48] the internet is scary

[21:49] and yet the movies

[21:50] somehow have not been

[21:51] able to figure it out.

Elliott Kalan

[21:52] So here's the thing,

[21:53] because I think they mistake

[21:54] the medium for the message.

[21:57] If I can be like

[21:57] Marshall McLuhan,

[21:58] a character in Videodrome

[21:59] of whom it's based on,

[22:01] the character of Brian Oblivion,

[22:02] right?

[22:03] So the,

[22:05] I think they've,

[22:05] they've took,

[22:06] the scary thing about the internet

[22:07] is that it,

[22:08] it plays on your deepest,

[22:11] what,

[22:12] insecurities and privacies

[22:13] and fears

[22:13] and can alternately project them

[22:15] to the world

[22:16] or directly to you

[22:18] feed the things

[22:18] that are going to drive you mad.

[22:19] And instead,

[22:20] what the movies have mainly said

[22:21] is the internet is creepy

[22:22] because there might be

[22:23] serial killers

[22:24] who are lurking on it,

[22:25] you know,

[22:25] or smileys,

[22:26] you know,

[22:27] whereas it feels like

[22:28] with Videodrome,

[22:29] it gives you the opportunity

[22:30] to do something scary

[22:31] about algorithms,

[22:33] you know,

[22:33] or something scary

[22:34] about the way social media

[22:36] is designed to make you mad

[22:38] or to make you paranoid.

[22:41] So I think there's things

[22:42] you could do with that.

Dan McCoy

[22:43] Well, that's,

[22:43] I mean,

[22:43] I think there's like,

[22:44] there's an uncertainty quality

[22:46] to what Videodrome is doing.

[22:48] Like,

[22:48] like,

[22:50] he doesn't really know

[22:51] what these transmissions are,

[22:52] how much,

[22:53] how seriously to take them

[22:54] in a certain way.

[22:55] And like,

[22:56] I think that there's something

[22:56] interesting with that too

[22:57] with the internet

[22:58] with like,

[22:59] people who claim

[23:00] to just be trolls

[23:01] and you can't tell,

[23:03] you know,

[23:04] whether they are just trolls,

[23:06] whether they are

[23:07] legitimately like,

[23:09] you know,

[23:10] dangerous

[23:10] or whether there's any difference

[23:11] between those two things.

Elliott Kalan

[23:13] Yeah, yeah.

[23:13] I think,

[23:14] I love that.

[23:15] That's a great gray area

[23:16] to play in is that,

[23:16] that paranoia of not knowing

[23:18] what's a real danger

[23:18] and what's a fake danger,

[23:19] what's sincere

[23:20] and what's not sincere.

[23:21] And you can't escape it

[23:23] because the devices

[23:24] that you use

[23:25] to run your life

[23:26] are pushing these things

[23:28] at you constantly.

[23:29] You have to opt out

[23:30] of all of it.

[23:31] Yeah.

[23:32] And these devices

[23:32] are essential.

[23:33] You can't,

[23:34] you can't,

Stuart Wellington

[23:34] it's getting to the point

[23:35] where you can't even

[23:36] get on the subway

[23:36] without scanning

[23:37] your fucking phone.

Elliott Kalan

[23:38] Yeah,

[23:38] which is crazy.

[23:40] Like,

[23:40] it's,

[23:40] it's really,

[23:41] it's,

[23:42] or when people talk about

[23:43] like,

[23:43] well,

[23:43] we need a cashless society

[23:44] and it's like,

[23:45] wait,

[23:45] so I need,

[23:45] you're saying I need

[23:46] to have a device

[23:46] with me at all times.

[23:47] Like,

[23:48] I can't opt out

[23:49] of even having a device.

[23:50] So that,

[23:50] I think that's really good.

[23:51] And the first one,

[23:53] the video drone in the movie

[23:54] is so much about

[23:54] the difference between

[23:56] image and reality

[23:57] and what happens

[23:57] when you confuse them.

[23:59] So this can be similar.

[24:00] The idea of

[24:00] confusing the virtual world

[24:02] for the real world,

[24:03] not in a virtuosity,

[24:06] somebody comes out

[24:07] of a video game

[24:08] and is killing people

[24:09] in real life.

Stuart Wellington

[24:09] So no serial killers.

Elliott Kalan

[24:11] Well,

[24:12] I'm not,

[24:12] not necessarily,

[24:13] but probably not.

[24:14] But the idea of

[24:16] that there are companies

[24:17] out there in reality

[24:18] that want to,

[24:19] that want to create

[24:20] a virtual world

[24:21] that then we would have

[24:22] to spend all of our time in

[24:23] so that they can not only

[24:24] control the products

[24:25] or the,

[24:26] or the content

[24:27] or whatever that we get,

[24:29] but also control

[24:29] the very reality

[24:30] that we live in

[24:31] in a way that they own

[24:32] and they have to sell to us,

[24:34] which is a really

[24:34] frightening idea,

[24:35] right?

Dan McCoy

[24:35] Maybe that's an idea.

[24:36] Maybe like,

[24:38] there's someone

[24:38] notices

[24:40] like targeted

[24:42] stuff,

[24:44] you know,

[24:45] being more and more

[24:46] specifically targeted

[24:47] towards them,

[24:48] gets paranoid about it.

[24:50] And then like,

[24:52] things start to,

[24:52] start to fall into place

[24:54] in their life

[24:54] in a way that should be positive,

[24:56] but they are paranoid

[24:57] that this is like,

[24:58] somehow these companies

[25:00] are now tailoring

[25:01] reality to his whims

[25:03] as well.

Elliott Kalan

[25:04] It could be,

[25:04] yeah.

[25:04] I mean,

[25:04] in a way that,

[25:05] we don't want it to be

[25:05] too much like The Matrix

[25:06] or something like that,

[25:07] but I like that idea.

[25:08] That's really good.

[25:09] So it's like,

[25:10] he's already in the,

[25:13] he's already in that world

[25:14] or something like that.

[25:15] That he,

[25:15] there's a,

[25:18] we'll figure it out.

[25:19] So anyway,

[25:19] Stuart,

[25:19] that's the pitch.

[25:20] You like it?

Stuart Wellington

[25:21] Okay,

[25:21] I'm buying it.

[25:22] 10 episode,

[25:23] 10 episode run.

[25:24] Let's put it on

[25:25] free form.

[25:28] Okay.

Dan McCoy

[25:29] You can't see it at home,

[25:31] but Stuart,

[25:32] look down as if

[25:33] to check his nose,

[25:34] as if he has a deal

[25:36] in place with free form.

[25:37] Yeah,

[25:37] Stuart has an overall

[25:38] with free form.

[25:39] Yeah.

[25:40] Okay.

[25:40] This is a great.

[25:41] You're trying to get us

[25:41] through work during the strike,

[25:43] Stuart.

Stuart Wellington

[25:44] Yep.

[25:45] I'm doing it,

[25:46] tricking you.

[25:47] I'm like a,

[25:48] like a sneaky streaming service.

[25:51] Speaking of sneaky streaming services,

[25:54] the Flophouse is sponsored

[25:55] by a number of different companies.

[25:57] Not sneaky streaming services though.

[25:59] No.

[26:00] No.

[26:01] No.

[26:02] So why don't we jump to those?

[26:03] Dan,

[26:04] I believe you're the first.

Dan McCoy

[26:05] Yeah,

[26:06] and I definitely had it pulled up

[26:08] and then somehow hit the wrong thing.

[26:11] Here it is.

Elliott Kalan

[26:12] Maybe we can use a little bit more

[26:13] of that Videodrome fake reality

[26:15] where things fall into place for Dan

[26:17] without his realizing it.

Dan McCoy

[26:19] You know what makes it

[26:20] you not worry about

[26:21] whether things fall into place or not?

Elliott Kalan

[26:24] One more thing,

[26:24] one more thing about that Videodrome idea,

[26:25] even though we're done with that segment.

[26:28] Videodrome,

[26:28] the movie,

[26:29] is so much about playing on people's

[26:30] sexual desires,

[26:31] and what happens

[26:32] when they are removed from reality.

[26:33] And one thing that could be interesting

[26:34] to play with is that the metaverse,

[26:36] as for instance,

[26:37] Mark Zuckerberg has designed it,

[26:38] or not him specifically,

[26:39] but his designers of Facebook,

[26:40] was so incredibly sexless

[26:41] and so incredibly non-physical

[26:43] and non-body or non-sensual.

[26:45] And that could be something

[26:46] to play with in this new Videodrome.

[26:47] The idea that the future

[26:49] is not your sexual desires

[26:52] being transmuted electronically,

[26:54] but instead the opposite of that,

[26:56] them being denied to you

[26:57] because they don't fit into

[26:58] either the corporate philosophy

[27:00] or the philosophy of the person

[27:02] who ultimately pulls the strings

[27:03] of that corporation.

[27:03] So scary, right?

[27:05] This world of digital Unix

[27:07] that Facebook wants us to be.

[27:08] Ooh, frightening.

Stuart Wellington

[27:09] Oh, man.

[27:10] I guess I'll throw away

[27:11] my milking machine.

[27:12] Okay, Dan,

[27:13] who are we sponsoring?

[27:14] No, Stuart,

Elliott Kalan

[27:15] you need it.

[27:15] That milking machine

[27:16] is what keeps you human.

[27:18] Dan, get a milking machine.

[27:20] Anyway, what's your sponsor?

[27:21] Milking machines?

Dan McCoy

[27:22] No, if anything a sponsor likes more

[27:26] than coming after that conversation.

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[27:43] Guys, I'm going to be honest with you.

[27:46] Yeah.

[27:46] I got a lot of problems

[27:48] relating to people sometimes.

[27:50] I have a sort of an inflexible mindset.

[27:54] I hold myself to a bizarre standard

[27:57] and get inexplicably infuriated

[27:59] when other people don't share that standard.

[28:03] A lot of things.

[28:05] And you know what has genuinely helped me?

[28:08] A little THC.

[28:10] Not TLC,

[28:11] although that has also helped me,

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Stuart Wellington

[28:14] that you shouldn't accept scrubs

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Elliott Kalan

[28:17] Or go chasing waterfalls.

[28:19] No, stick to the rivers and lakes

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[28:22] and you know the depths

[28:24] and the bottom topography.

Dan McCoy

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Elliott Kalan

[28:46] And we are also sponsored by Soylent.

[28:49] Let's face it,

[28:49] unless you like to cook,

[28:51] cooking is not fun.

[28:52] I find it really stressful, honestly.

[28:54] A lot of it is keeping track of things.

[28:56] I don't like that.

[28:57] You're rushing around

[28:57] to get them all finished in time.

[28:59] There never seems to be enough time

[29:00] to do it well.

[29:01] There's a reason the show,

[29:02] The Bear,

[29:03] is not described as calming

[29:04] and meditative.

[29:07] And it's all about cooking.

[29:09] This is where the people at Soylent

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[29:28] And look,

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[29:51] But hey,

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[30:44] We may require assistance.

[30:45] Yes,

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[30:49] So get a head start,

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Dan McCoy

[31:07] Now, Elliot,

[31:07] I know you were using

[31:08] just now

[31:08] the Yiddish word

[31:09] Cirrus,

[31:10] meaning sort of like,

[31:11] you know,

[31:12] to do like a fuss,

[31:14] you know,

Elliott Kalan

[31:14] but worry.

[31:17] Yeah,

[31:17] worry,

[31:17] anxiety,

[31:18] you know,

[31:18] a bad feeling

[31:19] in your stomach

[31:20] because you think

[31:20] something bad

[31:21] is gonna happen.

[31:21] Exactly.

[31:22] You were talking

Dan McCoy

[31:22] about living in space,

[31:24] so for a moment

[31:25] I heard it as Cirrus,

[31:26] the type of cloud

[31:27] that one would have

[31:29] to, you know,

[31:30] break through

[31:30] on the way

[31:31] to space

[31:32] and I was like,

[31:33] why do you want

[31:33] to save yourself

[31:34] some Cirrus?

[31:35] Anyway.

Stuart Wellington

[31:36] That's the best part

[31:37] about going to space,

[31:38] breaking through that cloud.

Elliott Kalan

[31:39] It's when you just

[31:40] hold your hand out

[31:41] with a net in it

[31:42] and catch some clouds

[31:43] and pull them

[31:43] into the window

[31:44] and close the window

[31:44] and take it to space

[31:46] with you.

[31:46] Yeah,

[31:47] it rules.

[31:47] Nature's cotton candy,

[31:49] you know,

[31:49] clouds.

[31:51] I wanted to take a moment

[31:52] if it's possible

[31:52] for me to shill

[31:53] for my own things.

[31:55] Dan and I

[31:55] are on strike

[31:56] and I have two things

[31:57] I want to say about that.

[31:58] One,

[31:59] the Writers Guild

[31:59] is on strike.

[32:00] You've heard us

[32:00] talk about it before.

[32:02] We are striking

[32:02] for equitable pay,

[32:04] for real employment,

[32:06] for humans

[32:07] doing the creative work

[32:08] and this is the kind

[32:08] of strike

[32:08] that a lot of industries

[32:09] are probably going

[32:10] to have to go through

[32:11] or at least threaten

[32:12] so that we can keep

[32:13] humans on top

[32:14] and machines on the bottom

[32:16] where they belong

[32:16] in our shoes

[32:17] because we'll have

[32:18] computer shoes

[32:18] in the future.

[32:20] Hopefully,

[32:20] by the time this episode

[32:21] comes out.

Dan McCoy

[32:22] I heard about a computer

[32:22] that wore tennis shoes.

[32:23] But in this case,

[32:24] the computer is tennis shoes.

[32:25] In this case,

Elliott Kalan

[32:26] the computer is tennis shoes.

[32:27] Kurt Russell is still wearing it.

[32:29] It's always Kurt Russell.

[32:31] And so,

[32:32] maybe by the time

[32:32] this episode comes out,

[32:33] maybe the strike will be over.

[32:34] Maybe the AMPTP

[32:35] will have come

[32:36] to their goddamn senses

[32:37] and realize

[32:38] that they cannot

[32:39] do their business

[32:40] without us,

[32:40] that they need us,

[32:41] and that we are

[32:42] one of the many groups

[32:43] of people

[32:43] that make entertainment

[32:44] possible

[32:45] and make them money.

[32:46] If they haven't

[32:47] and the strike

[32:47] is still going on,

[32:48] then a lot of writers

[32:49] and a lot of people

[32:50] in the entertainment industry

[32:51] who are not writers

[32:51] are going to be out of work

[32:53] and are going to need

[32:53] your help.

[32:54] So that's why,

[32:55] if you can

[32:55] and if you would like to help,

[32:56] I would advise you

[32:57] to go to

[32:57] entertainmentcommunity.org

[32:59] and donate.

[33:00] That is the

[33:00] Entertainment Community Fund.

[33:02] Used to be the Actors Fund.

[33:04] Now it's the

[33:04] Entertainment Community Fund.

[33:05] It's for everybody.

[33:06] Go to the area

[33:07] that says

[33:07] Support Film

[33:08] and Television Professionals

[33:09] and make a donation

[33:10] that is money

[33:11] that will go to

[33:12] anyone in the

[33:13] entertainment community

[33:13] who applies for it

[33:14] because they need it.

[33:15] That's not just writers.

[33:16] That could also mean

[33:17] actors.

[33:17] That could also mean

[33:18] support staff

[33:19] such as writer's assistants

[33:20] or script supervisors

[33:21] or anyone.

[33:23] Anyone who works

[33:24] in entertainment

[33:24] who needs that money

[33:26] when they need it

[33:27] and we really appreciate

[33:28] the support.

[33:29] If you would rather

[33:29] make a more targeted

[33:30] donation to me

[33:31] and get things

[33:33] in addition,

[33:33] as a result,

[33:34] I have some books

[33:35] out on store shelves

[33:36] and you can help me

[33:36] pay the bills

[33:37] by buying some of them.

[33:38] I have two picture books,

[33:39] Sharko and Hippo

[33:40] and Horse Meets Dog.

[33:41] Kids love them.

[33:42] And I have, of course,

[33:43] the collections

[33:44] of my comic book,

[33:45] Maniac of New York

[33:46] from Aftershock Comics.

[33:47] Please feel free

[33:47] to buy those

[33:48] and enjoy them

[33:49] and some of that money

[33:49] will go to me.

[33:51] In the case of the books,

[33:52] it will go down to

[33:53] paying back the advance

[33:54] because we have not yet

[33:55] done that.

[33:56] But if you want

[33:57] to not do that,

[33:58] if you want

[33:58] to make a donation

[33:59] that will more

[33:59] directly help people

[34:00] and also go entirely

[34:02] to the people

[34:02] who need it,

[34:02] go to

[34:03] entertainmentcommunity.org

[34:05] and make a donation

[34:06] to help the

[34:07] entertainment professionals

[34:07] who need your help

[34:09] so they can get

[34:09] back on their feet

[34:10] and keep making

[34:11] that stuff

[34:11] that you love.

[34:12] We call it

[34:13] entertainment.

Stuart Wellington

[34:16] Thank you.

[34:16] Now that's entertainment.

S4

[34:23] Greatest Trek

[34:23] is the podcast

[34:25] for all your

[34:25] modern Star Trek needs.

[34:27] It's funny,

Stuart Wellington

[34:28] informative,

[34:28] and now it's also timely.

S4

[34:30] That's because

[34:30] every Friday

[34:31] right after the release

[34:32] of a new episode

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[34:39] There's some great

Stuart Wellington

[34:40] new Star Trek

[34:40] coming up

[34:41] and we're going

[34:41] to cover all of it.

S4

[34:42] You'll like our show

[34:43] because we're both

[34:44] former video producers

[34:45] so we bring a lot

[34:45] of insight

[34:46] into the production

[34:47] and filmmaking aspects

[34:48] to these episodes.

[34:49] And we also have

[34:49] a very refined

[34:50] sense of humor

[34:51] so we make lots

[34:52] of delightful

[34:52] fart jokes

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[35:06] Hey there,

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[35:08] This is Alonzo Durali.

Dan McCoy

[35:10] And this is

[35:11] Sparta.

[35:13] Iffy.

[35:13] Listen,

[35:14] I got 300 on the brain.

[35:15] We just watched

[35:16] the movie 300

[35:17] in honor of our

[35:18] 300th episode

[35:19] of Maximum Film.

[35:21] And to celebrate

[35:22] this major milestone

[35:23] we brought back

[35:24] original co-hosts

[35:26] Ricky Carmona

[35:26] and April Wolf.

[35:27] But just for this

[35:28] one episode, right?

[35:29] Oh, iffy.

[35:30] You know we could

[35:31] never replace you.

S5

[35:32] Some of the voices

[35:33] have changed over the years.

[35:34] Heck, the name

[35:35] of the show

[35:35] has changed too.

[35:36] But through it all,

[35:37] Maximum Film remains

Dan McCoy

[35:38] the movie podcast

[35:39] that isn't just

[35:41] a bunch of

Stuart Wellington

[35:41] straight white guys.

[35:43] Deal with it.

S5

[35:44] Find this

[35:44] and all 300 episodes

[35:46] of Maximum Film

[35:47] anytime on

[35:48] MaximumFun.org.

Stuart Wellington

[35:51] So the back half

[35:52] of this episode

[35:52] of Two Boy

[35:53] Talking Tube

[35:53] to Two Dudes

[35:54] Today,

[35:54] Yes Way,

[35:55] we're going to talk

[35:56] about one of the

[35:57] repercussions

[35:58] of the writer's strike.

[35:59] That's right,

[36:00] we're talking

[36:00] reality TV.

[36:03] And the first thing,

[36:04] the first part

[36:05] of this segment,

[36:06] we're going to be

[36:06] talking about

[36:07] a little show

[36:07] that my wife

[36:08] and I have been

[36:09] watching since we

[36:09] don't have

[36:10] late night shows

[36:10] to watch.

[36:11] We've been

[36:12] watching The Amazing

[36:13] Race,

[36:15] which is a show

[36:16] where two people,

[36:17] a team of two,

[36:18] travel all over

[36:18] the world

[36:19] and complete

[36:20] challenges

[36:21] and have to

[36:21] travel around

[36:22] this modern

[36:23] crazy world

[36:24] and they're

[36:25] running a race.

[36:26] Okay?

[36:27] It's fairly

[36:27] straightforward.

[36:28] If you haven't

[36:28] seen it,

[36:29] just imagine

[36:29] you go on

[36:30] puzzles and

[36:31] physical challenges

[36:32] and you have

[36:32] to complete

[36:33] them in order

[36:33] to complete

[36:34] this race.

[36:34] It's like

Elliott Kalan

[36:35] international

[36:35] double dare,

[36:36] but it's you

[36:37] and a partner

[36:37] and you're

[36:38] held hostage

[36:38] by the show

[36:39] and you cannot

[36:39] go home

[36:39] until you

[36:40] lose or finish.

[36:41] Now,

Stuart Wellington

[36:42] Charlene and I

[36:43] have agreed

[36:44] that under

[36:44] no circumstance

[36:45] would we be

[36:46] good teammates

[36:47] for this.

[36:48] I would watch

[36:49] that all season

[36:49] though.

[36:50] So,

[36:50] what I'm

[36:51] going to put

[36:51] to you,

[36:52] this is a little

[36:53] bit of a lightning

[36:53] round,

[36:54] I'm going to

[36:54] give you three,

[36:55] we're going to

[36:56] go through a

[36:57] number of

[36:57] different rounds

[36:58] and each round

[36:59] give you three

[37:00] options,

[37:00] three fictional

[37:02] characters

[37:02] and you are

[37:04] going to have

[37:04] to say who

[37:05] you would like

[37:06] to be your

[37:06] teammate and

[37:07] why.

[37:08] Okay.

[37:09] Okay?

[37:10] Fairly simple

[37:10] and you can

[37:11] pick the same

[37:11] one if you

[37:12] insist.

[37:13] So,

[37:13] first,

[37:15] Kermit,

[37:15] Gonzo,

[37:16] or Fozzie

[37:17] Bear?

[37:19] Who would be

[37:19] the best

[37:20] reality show

[37:21] teammate for you?

Elliott Kalan

[37:22] I mean,

[37:23] it's like

[37:23] Kermit,

[37:24] obviously,

[37:25] right?

[37:25] Like,

[37:26] because he's

[37:26] level-headed

[37:27] and he's not

[37:28] going to annoy

[37:28] you with his

[37:29] jokes and also

[37:30] he's not going

[37:30] to be running

[37:31] off to have

[37:31] sex with Camilla

[37:32] when he's

[37:32] supposed to be

[37:33] finishing the

[37:34] competition,

[37:34] right?

Stuart Wellington

[37:35] True.

[37:36] R.I.P.

Elliott Kalan

[37:39] I forgot that in

[37:39] Flop Haskin and

[37:40] Camilla died last

[37:41] year.

Dan McCoy

[37:43] Now,

[37:43] I am going to go

[37:44] a different

[37:45] direction.

[37:45] I would say

[37:46] that I am

[37:47] too close

[37:47] to a Kermit

[37:49] to partner

[37:52] with a Kermit.

[37:53] I think,

[37:54] I need someone

[37:56] whose skill

[37:56] set is

[37:57] different and

[37:57] I need

[37:57] someone,

[37:58] clearly,

[37:59] you know,

[38:00] based on

[38:01] the people

[38:01] I have

[38:02] chosen to

[38:03] surround

[38:03] myself

[38:03] with,

[38:04] I prefer

[38:05] to be

[38:05] around

[38:05] people

[38:06] who

[38:06] annoy me

[38:06] a little.

[38:07] So,

[38:08] go with

[38:09] Fozzie.

[38:10] Oh,

[38:10] cool.

[38:11] I need someone

[38:11] who's always

[38:12] going to be

[38:12] trying to

[38:13] bother me

[38:13] with jokes.

[38:14] Actually,

[38:14] you know what?

Stuart Wellington

[38:15] What are you

[38:15] going to say,

[38:16] Stu?

[38:16] I was just

[38:16] going to say,

[38:17] obviously,

[38:17] I'm picking

[38:18] Miss Piggy.

[38:18] I don't think

[38:19] we need to

[38:19] cover that.

[38:20] Not an option

[38:20] that we

[38:21] were presented

[38:21] with.

Elliott Kalan

[38:22] I mean,

[38:22] actually,

[38:23] now that I

[38:23] think about it,

[38:23] I already

[38:23] took her,

[38:24] dude.

[38:25] Gonzo might

[38:25] be good,

[38:26] now that I

[38:26] think about it,

[38:27] because he

[38:27] is not

[38:28] loath to

[38:29] perform

[38:30] dangerous

[38:30] stunts.

[38:31] He is

[38:32] not afraid

[38:33] of putting

[38:34] that long

[38:35] hooked,

[38:36] but not

[38:37] anti-Semitic

[38:37] nose

[38:38] into danger.

Stuart Wellington

[38:40] Yeah,

[38:40] that's great.

[38:40] Okay,

[38:41] so next

[38:41] round.

[38:42] Perseus,

[38:43] Achilles,

[38:44] or Jason?

[38:46] Not some

[38:47] guy named

[38:47] Jason,

[38:47] we're talking

[38:48] about the

[38:48] Greek hero,

[38:50] Jason.

Elliott Kalan

[38:51] Okay,

[38:52] now,

[38:52] what I love

[38:53] about this

[38:53] is it also

[38:54] ties into

[38:54] my upcoming

[38:55] Disney Villains

[38:56] Hades

[38:56] comics miniseries

[38:57] that starts

[38:58] in August,

[38:59] and Jason

[39:00] appears in

[39:01] that series,

[39:02] spoiler alert.

Stuart Wellington

[39:04] Noted

[39:04] villain.

Elliott Kalan

[39:05] Well,

[39:06] Hades is

[39:07] still a

[39:07] villain of

[39:08] it,

[39:08] but the

[39:09] Jason's

[39:10] not a

Stuart Wellington

[39:10] cool dude.

[39:11] No,

Elliott Kalan

[39:11] I mean,

[39:12] Jason,

[39:13] okay,

[39:13] just because

[39:14] he abandoned

[39:15] his wife,

[39:15] causing her

[39:16] to kill

[39:17] her children,

[39:18] is,

[39:19] he's a

[39:20] rascal.

[39:20] But I'm

[39:21] going to

[39:21] say Perseus

[39:22] for this

[39:22] one.

[39:23] Perseus,

[39:23] he's got

[39:23] magic weapons,

[39:25] he got rid

[39:26] of the

[39:26] Medusa,

[39:27] who is also

[39:27] a character

[39:28] in Disney

[39:28] Villains

[39:28] Hades,

[39:29] and he's

[39:30] just all

[39:30] around,

[39:31] you know,

[39:31] he's just

[39:31] a strong,

[39:32] he's a good

[39:32] hero,

[39:33] he doesn't

[39:33] have the

[39:33] emotional

[39:33] instability

[39:34] of Achilles,

[39:35] or the

[39:35] rapscallion,

[39:37] leave his

[39:38] wife and

[39:39] cause her to

[39:39] kill his

[39:39] children,

[39:40] quality of

[39:40] Jason.

[39:41] So I'm

[39:41] going to

[39:41] go with

[39:42] Perseus

[39:42] on this

[39:42] one.

[39:43] Is

Dan McCoy

[39:43] Perseus

[39:44] the one

[39:44] who's

[39:44] the lead

[39:50] accurate is

[39:51] Clash of

[39:52] the Titans

[39:52] 2 Greek

[39:53] mythology.

[39:54] Pretty close.

Elliott Kalan

[39:56] I mean,

[39:57] it's a

[39:58] bouterized

[39:59] version of

[39:59] Greek mythology,

[40:00] certainly.

Dan McCoy

[40:02] Yeah,

[40:02] I'll go with

[40:02] Perseus 2,

[40:03] that guy seems

[40:03] to be able

[40:04] to do a lot

[40:04] of stuff.

Stuart Wellington

[40:06] That's a good

[40:06] response,

[40:07] obviously,

[40:07] I'm going

[40:08] Heracles,

[40:08] because Heracles

[40:09] is the best.

[40:10] Heracles

[40:10] killed his

[40:11] family,

[40:12] Stu,

[40:12] wait a minute,

[40:13] hold on.

[40:13] That's the problem,

[40:14] they're holding

[40:15] him back.

Elliott Kalan

[40:17] I mean,

[40:18] sure,

[40:18] he was under

[40:18] a spell of

[40:19] madness,

[40:19] he was

[40:22] not fully

[40:22] in his right

[40:23] mind.

[40:23] That's also

[40:23] in the Greek myth,

[40:24] it's like,

[40:25] oh,

[40:25] I killed my

[40:26] family in a

[40:27] fit of rage,

[40:27] what can I

[40:28] do to atone

[40:28] myself?

Stuart Wellington

[40:29] How about

[40:30] you clean

[40:30] out these

[40:30] stables?

[40:32] Wrestle this

[40:33] dude.

[40:35] Okay,

[40:36] so,

[40:36] next round,

[40:37] we got

[40:37] Princess Leia,

[40:39] Chewbacca,

[40:40] Salacious

[40:40] Crumb.

Elliott Kalan

[40:42] Oh,

[40:42] this is a

[40:42] tough one.

[40:43] I gotta

[40:43] think practically

[40:45] and not just

[40:45] go with the

[40:46] one I want

[40:46] to spend

[40:46] time with.

[40:48] Yeah,

[40:48] that's the

[40:48] thing.

[40:48] That's the

[40:49] thing.

Stuart Wellington

[40:49] That person

[40:50] might inspire you.

[40:52] You know what?

[40:52] Yeah,

Elliott Kalan

[40:53] I think,

[40:54] So,

[40:55] obviously,

[40:56] a lot of

[40:56] can-do attitude,

[40:57] can do just

[40:58] about everything,

[40:58] has the force.

[40:59] Chewbacca,

[41:00] loyal to the

[41:01] end,

[41:01] you know,

[41:02] and a great

[41:02] co-pilot,

[41:03] but Salacious

[41:03] Crumb,

[41:04] that's the kind

[41:04] of emotional

[41:06] support that I

[41:08] really need.

[41:08] If he can make

[41:09] Jabba the

[41:09] Hutt feel

[41:10] beautiful,

[41:10] then he can

[41:11] make me feel

[41:11] like I can

[41:12] do anything.

[41:12] So,

[41:12] I'm gonna go

[41:13] with Salacious

[41:13] Crumb.

Dan McCoy

[41:14] Yeah,

[41:14] I think with

[41:15] there'd be too

[41:16] big of a risk

[41:18] that I would

[41:19] get a crush on

[41:20] her and it

[41:20] would distract

[41:20] me.

[41:21] So,

[41:22] I'm gonna go

[41:22] with Chewbacca,

[41:23] a known

[41:24] loyal sidekick.

[41:26] Mm-hmm.

Elliott Kalan

[41:27] Let's see,

[41:28] I wrote down-

[41:28] And you

[41:28] wouldn't be

[41:29] thrown off

[41:29] by the fact

[41:30] that he's

[41:30] naked except

[41:31] for a belt.

Dan McCoy

[41:33] Oh,

[41:33] it's a bandolier,

[41:35] right?

[41:35] A bandolier,

[41:36] yeah.

[41:36] It's a bandolier.

[41:36] It's a bandolier,

[41:37] yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[41:37] I mean,

[41:38] if anything,

[41:38] that's weirder.

[41:39] I mean,

[41:39] the fact that

[41:39] Salacious Crumb

[41:40] is naked,

[41:41] but he's just

[41:41] naked.

[41:42] But if Salacious

[41:42] Crumb was

[41:43] wearing like

[41:43] naked but with

[41:44] a hat on,

Dan McCoy

[41:44] that would be

[41:45] weirder.

[41:45] Yeah.

[41:46] I mean,

[41:46] do you think

[41:47] of like dogs

[41:48] as being naked?

[41:49] All the time.

[41:50] All the time,

[41:50] yeah.

[41:51] Yeah,

Stuart Wellington

[41:51] that's what he

Elliott Kalan

[41:58] has a ton of

[41:59] sex jokes in it.

[41:59] So,

[42:00] yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[42:01] I wrote down

[42:02] gonk droid.

[42:03] So,

[42:04] yeah,

[42:04] I guess that's

[42:04] who I would

[42:05] pick.

[42:05] Sweet choice.

[42:06] Also very

[42:06] emotionally supportive.

Elliott Kalan

[42:08] Okay.

[42:09] Now,

[42:09] I'm imagining

[42:10] someone who

[42:11] just got dumped

[42:12] and they're just

[42:12] eating ice cream

[42:13] and just

[42:13] talking out

[42:14] their troubles

[42:15] to gonk.

[42:15] And every time

[42:16] gonk goes,

[42:16] gonk,

[42:17] it's like he's

[42:17] saying,

[42:17] I hear you.

[42:18] I hear you.

[42:19] I hear you.

[42:19] Yeah,

[42:19] yeah.

[42:19] I see myself

Stuart Wellington

[42:20] reflected in his

[42:21] gonks.

[42:22] I've been there.

[42:23] So,

[42:23] the next round,

[42:24] we got Dominic

[42:25] Toretto,

[42:27] Letty,

[42:29] Brian.

[42:31] I gotta say,

[42:31] I don't know

[42:32] the series well

[42:32] enough to know

[42:33] the other characters.

[42:34] You went to

[42:34] the Universal

[42:35] Studios,

[42:36] right?

[42:36] I did,

[42:37] but it was

[42:37] so incomprehensible.

Dan McCoy

[42:39] I mean,

[42:39] I'm just gonna,

[42:40] this one,

[42:40] I'm just gonna go

[42:41] with the character

[42:42] who I think

[42:42] I would like

[42:43] the most.

[42:44] I would say

[42:44] Letty.

[42:45] Letty,

Stuart Wellington

[42:45] okay,

[42:46] that makes sense.

[42:46] Yeah,

[42:46] that's a good call.

Elliott Kalan

[42:49] Elliot?

[42:49] You know what?

[42:50] He's not one of the

[42:51] ones I think you

[42:51] mentioned,

[42:52] but I'm gonna go

[42:52] with Hobbes.

[42:53] I love that

[42:53] adorable tiger.

[42:54] I love that

[42:55] sometimes he's

[42:55] stuffed animal

[42:56] and sometimes

[42:56] he's not.

[42:57] And so,

[42:58] yeah,

[42:58] I'm just gonna

[42:58] go with Hobbes.

[42:59] I'll feed him

[42:59] all the tuna

[43:00] sandwiches he wants.

[43:01] He can pounce

[43:01] on me when I'm

[43:02] coming home

[43:03] from school

[43:03] any day.

Stuart Wellington

[43:04] Mm-hmm.

[43:05] And I wrote

[43:05] down Roman

[43:06] because he's

[43:07] just gonna keep

[43:07] me in stitches

[43:08] the whole time,

[43:09] you know?

[43:09] He's so funny.

[43:10] Okay,

[43:10] next round

[43:11] of fictional

[43:12] characters,

[43:12] we have

[43:13] filmmaker

[43:13] Agnes Varda,

[43:15] filmmaker

[43:16] Paul Thomas

[43:17] Anderson.

[43:17] Okay,

Elliott Kalan

[43:18] so it's not

[43:18] quite fictional.

[43:19] Filmmaker

Stuart Wellington

[43:19] Brian De Palma.

Elliott Kalan

[43:22] Okay,

[43:22] so this is

[43:23] for the amazing

[43:24] race.

[43:25] Yes.

[43:27] I mean,

[43:28] I'm gonna go,

[43:28] I gotta go,

Stuart Wellington

[43:29] you're taking them

[43:30] on a modern

[43:31] amazing race.

Elliott Kalan

[43:32] Okay,

[43:32] I gotta go with

[43:33] Agnes Varda,

[43:34] not just because

[43:35] I like her movies

[43:36] the most of those,

[43:37] but also,

[43:38] she can speak

[43:38] multiple languages.

[43:40] She'll be able

[43:40] to get us around

[43:41] as opposed to

[43:41] Brian De Palma

[43:42] who is a creep

[43:43] and Paul Thomas

[43:44] Anderson who,

[43:45] I don't know

[43:45] enough about

[43:46] his personal

[43:46] life,

[43:47] honestly.

Dan McCoy

[43:47] Let's be

[43:48] clear,

[43:50] De Palma

[43:50] makes movies

[43:51] that have

[43:51] a lot of

[43:52] perviness in it.

[43:54] There's not

[43:54] been scandal

[43:56] around De Palma.

Elliott Kalan

[43:56] I guess the creepiest

[43:58] thing he ever

[43:59] did was set up

[43:59] a camera to

[44:00] catch his dad

[44:00] having an affair

[44:01] when he was a kid.

[44:02] You're right.

[44:02] He's not a creep

[44:04] in the way that

[44:04] we say that

[44:05] a predator is a creep.

[44:06] That's like normal

[44:06] Fablemans type shit

[44:06] there,

[44:07] dude.

[44:07] No,

[44:08] well,

[44:08] the difference

[44:08] in Fablemans

[44:09] was that

[44:09] the whole family

[44:10] was in on it.

[44:10] That the dad

[44:11] was like,

[44:11] get that camera

[44:12] running,

[44:12] I want you to

[44:13] capture your

[44:14] mom's sexy

[44:15] bod on camera.

Dan McCoy

[44:19] I'm also going

[44:20] to go with

[44:20] Agnes Vardy

[44:21] because I feel

[44:21] like she seems

[44:23] like the most

[44:23] down to earth

[44:24] of them.

[44:25] She did direct

[44:26] Down to Earth

[44:27] starring Chris Rock.

[44:28] Useful in a race

[44:30] in a way that

[44:31] the others

[44:31] are maybe

[44:33] too into movies.

Stuart Wellington

[44:34] Yeah,

[44:34] I wrote down

[44:36] Werner Herzog.

[44:37] Oh,

[44:38] yeah,

[44:38] the man who

[44:38] dragged a ship

[44:40] across the jungle.

[44:42] He's been all

[44:42] over the place.

[44:43] He's lived

[44:44] a thousand lives.

[44:46] Okay,

[44:46] and then our

[44:47] last category

[44:48] in the lightning

[44:49] round,

[44:50] we got

[44:50] Littlefoot

[44:51] Sarah

[44:53] Petrie,

[44:55] the dinosaurs

[44:57] from Land

[44:58] Before Time.

[44:59] Now,

[44:59] this is an issue

Elliott Kalan

[45:01] where I'm having

[45:01] another issue here

[45:02] because I want

[45:02] to hang out

[45:03] with Petrie,

[45:04] but he's not

[45:04] going to be

[45:05] that helpful.

[45:07] go with Sarah.

[45:07] I feel like

[45:08] she's got a big

[45:09] attitude.

[45:09] We're going to

[45:09] disagree,

[45:10] but I can count

[45:11] on her in the

[45:11] clutch,

[45:12] and she's got

[45:13] confidence.

[45:13] She's going to

[45:14] build her way

[45:14] through the

[45:14] situations and

[45:15] not get scared.

[45:16] Yeah,

[45:16] say Sarah.

Dan McCoy

[45:17] This is not

[45:18] a movie

[45:19] I'm really

[45:19] that familiar

[45:20] with.

[45:20] Can I

[45:21] choose Zendaya

[45:22] as Michi?

[45:23] Is that

[45:23] possible?

Stuart Wellington

[45:25] I was just

[45:27] wondering,

[45:27] maybe you

[45:27] were more

[45:28] familiar with

[45:28] the

[45:28] ancillary

[45:29] TV show

[45:30] spinoff

[45:31] or the

[45:32] other films.

Dan McCoy

[45:33] They made

[45:33] like a ton

[45:35] of them.

[45:35] I don't

[45:36] know.

[45:36] I think I

[45:36] watched

[45:37] half of the

[45:39] original one

[45:40] because I

[45:40] liked Don

[45:41] Bluth and I

[45:41] got bored.

[45:45] Stuart's

[45:45] choking.

[45:46] He's so

[45:46] shocked that I

[45:46] couldn't make

[45:47] the

Elliott Kalan

[45:47] whole

[45:48] thing.

[45:48] Not an

[45:49] uncommon

[45:49] experience

[45:50] with a Don

[45:50] Bluth film,

[45:51] I have to

[45:51] admit.

Stuart Wellington

[45:52] I wrote

[45:52] down,

[45:53] of course,

[45:53] the sharp

[45:54] tooth because

[45:55] he's the

[45:55] bad guy and

[45:56] requires all

[45:57] the other

Dan McCoy

[45:57] characters to

[45:58] defeat him.

[45:59] It's pretty

Stuart Wellington

[45:59] simple.

[46:00] The most

[46:00] powerful,

[46:01] yeah,

[46:01] for sure.

[46:01] Okay,

[46:02] so that's the

[46:03] lightning round.

[46:03] Next stage.

[46:05] Last time we

[46:06] had a big

[46:06] writer's strike,

[46:08] we got

[46:08] ourselves a

[46:09] reality show

[46:10] president out

[46:10] of the deal.

[46:11] Now let's

[46:12] look at

[46:13] past

[46:13] US.

Elliott Kalan

[46:13] I'm not

[46:14] going to lay

[46:14] that at the

[46:16] foot of the

[46:16] writers.

Stuart Wellington

[46:18] Oh,

[46:18] interesting.

[46:19] Okay,

[46:19] why would

[46:20] you,

[46:21] do you have

[46:22] a dog in

[46:23] this fight?

[46:24] What's going

[46:24] on?

[46:25] Yeah,

[46:26] a naked

[46:26] dog,

[46:27] yeah.

[46:27] I want

[46:28] to look

[46:29] at past

[46:29] presidents

[46:30] and guess

[46:32] if they

[46:33] had a

[46:34] reality show,

[46:35] what would

[46:35] it have

[46:35] been?

Elliott Kalan

[46:37] Okay,

[46:38] now it's

[46:38] my time to

[46:38] shine.

[46:39] Dan thought

[46:39] he was out

[46:39] of his depth

[46:40] with the land

[46:40] before time.

Stuart Wellington

[46:41] President Bill

[46:42] Clinton,

[46:43] what reality

[46:43] show would

[46:44] he have

[46:44] hosted?

[46:45] F-Boy Island.

[46:46] F-Boy Island.

[46:48] That's actually

[46:48] pretty good.

[46:50] Because he

[46:50] would also

[46:50] play saxophone

[46:52] as like the

[46:52] opening or the

[46:53] closing.

[46:53] Wait,

Dan McCoy

[46:54] are these,

[46:54] we have to

[46:55] say real

[46:56] shows?

[46:57] Oh,

[46:57] okay.

[46:58] You can make

[46:59] up one.

Elliott Kalan

[46:59] It's not a

[47:00] real game,

[47:00] Dan.

[47:01] You can do

[47:01] what you

[47:01] want,

[47:01] yeah.

Dan McCoy

[47:03] How do you

[47:04] insult Stu's

[47:05] game like that?

[47:06] They're not

[47:06] calling it real.

[47:07] It's not a

Elliott Kalan

[47:07] real game.

[47:08] So the next

[47:09] one,

[47:09] okay,

[47:09] we've already

[47:09] kind of

[47:10] figured out.

[47:10] When Stu

[47:11] makes a real

[47:11] game,

[47:11] I know I'm

[47:12] going to be

[47:12] rolling dice

[47:13] and I'm

[47:14] going to have

[47:14] worms in my

[47:15] head by the

[47:15] end of it.

Stuart Wellington

[47:17] So we got

[47:18] President Richard

[47:20] Nixon.

[47:21] What was his

[47:21] reality show?

Dan McCoy

[47:26] What was his

[47:27] reality show?

Stuart Wellington

[47:29] Probably not a

[47:29] dating show.

[47:31] No.

[47:32] There's,

Dan McCoy

[47:34] I guess

[47:35] Liars

[47:36] Poker isn't

[47:36] really a

[47:37] reality show.

[47:37] It's a

[47:38] game show.

[47:38] Again,

[47:38] it doesn't

[47:39] have to be

[47:39] a real

[47:39] show.

[47:40] Okay.

Elliott Kalan

[47:42] let Dan swing

[47:42] on this rope

[47:43] for a little

[47:43] bit longer

[47:44] before I jump

Dan McCoy

[47:44] in.

[47:44] It's going

[47:45] to be a

[47:46] show about,

[47:48] did he hold

[47:49] checkers up

[47:49] by his ears?

Elliott Kalan

[47:51] No,

[47:51] you're confusing

[47:52] two different

[47:52] presidential dog

[47:53] things.

[47:54] Nixon mentioned

[47:55] checkers in

[47:56] a speech.

[47:57] Lyndon

[47:57] Johnson held

[47:58] his dogs

[47:58] up by the

[47:58] ears.

[47:59] Okay.

Dan McCoy

[48:00] Which is,

[48:01] again,

Elliott Kalan

[48:01] that's two

[48:03] presidents in

[48:03] a row who

[48:04] have dog

[48:05] relationships.

[48:05] Those dogs

[48:06] both naked.

Dan McCoy

[48:08] America's

[48:09] next top

[48:10] Richard Nixon

[48:11] impersonator.

[48:12] This is an

[48:13] impression everyone

[48:13] did back in

[48:14] the day.

[48:16] There's just a

[48:17] whole season

[48:18] of just

[48:19] challenges to

[48:21] see how

[48:21] closely you

[48:22] can impersonate

[48:23] President Richard

[48:24] Nixon.

[48:25] Hollywood

Stuart Wellington

[48:25] Squares

[48:26] lineup.

[48:28] Yeah.

[48:28] Okay,

[48:29] Elliot,

[48:29] how do you

[48:29] feel about

[48:30] this?

[48:30] Do you

[48:32] got a

[48:32] rebuttal

[48:32] or do you

[48:33] want to

[48:33] move on

[48:33] to the

[48:33] next

[48:34] president?

Elliott Kalan

[48:34] The only

[48:34] thing I

[48:35] had was,

[48:36] this is more

[48:37] of a game

[48:37] show.

[48:37] It's called

[48:38] Are You

[48:38] More

[48:39] Conservative

[48:40] Than

[48:40] Richard Nixon?

[48:41] Because at

[48:42] the time,

[48:43] he was the

[48:43] epitome of

[48:44] American

[48:44] conservatism,

[48:45] and yet he

[48:46] signed the

[48:47] law creating

[48:47] the EPA.

[48:48] He did a

[48:48] number of

[48:49] things like

[48:49] that.

[48:50] Now,

[48:50] at the same

[48:51] time,

[48:51] he was a

[48:51] warmonger.

[48:52] I feel like

[48:52] we're getting

[48:53] some vegetables

[48:53] in here.

[48:54] He was a

[48:54] warmonger who

[48:55] killed many,

[48:55] many people

[48:56] and did

[48:56] break the

[48:57] law routinely

[48:58] in order to

[48:59] undermine the

[48:59] democratic process.

[49:00] But I feel

[49:01] like that's

[49:01] just the

[49:02] thing

[49:02] Republican

[49:02] presidents do

[49:03] before breakfast

[49:04] these days.

Dan McCoy

[49:05] Oh!

Elliott Kalan

[49:06] And democratic

[49:07] presidents to

[49:08] a lesser

[49:08] extent when

[49:08] it comes to

[49:09] killing a lot

[49:09] of people

[49:09] overseas.

[49:10] Yeah,

[49:11] So you'd

[49:12] have that

[49:12] one.

[49:12] And Jeff

[49:13] Foxworthy

[49:13] would still

[49:13] host it.

Stuart Wellington

[49:14] Okay,

[49:15] Teddy Roosevelt.

[49:16] What's

[49:16] Teddy Bear's

[49:18] little reality

[49:19] show?

[49:19] What are we

[49:19] doing here?

[49:21] I feel like

[49:21] it's a,

[49:22] jump in here.

[49:23] It's got to

[49:23] be some kind

[49:24] of like

[49:24] strongman

[49:25] show.

[49:25] Like an

[49:26] American Ninja

[49:27] Warrior type

[49:28] climbing on

[49:29] mooses and

[49:29] stuff.

Elliott Kalan

[49:30] If I was

[49:30] being harsh

[49:31] and cynical,

[49:31] I'd say it's

[49:32] called The

[49:32] Amazing Race

[49:32] and it's

[49:33] about how

[49:33] great

[49:33] white

[49:33] Anglo-Saxon

[49:34] culture was

[49:35] because he

[49:35] was a man

[49:36] of the same

[49:37] racial prejudices

[49:38] of his time

[49:38] to a certain

[49:38] extent.

[49:39] But I

[49:40] actually like

[49:41] Theodore Roosevelt

[49:41] a lot.

[49:41] So I'm

[49:41] going to

[49:41] say that

[49:42] it's called

[49:43] political

[49:48] boxing.

[49:49] And it's

[49:50] just him

[49:50] boxing other

[49:51] people in

[49:51] politics.

Stuart Wellington

[49:52] Oh,

[49:53] wow.

[49:53] Okay.

[49:53] So I

[49:54] mean it

[49:54] limits your

[49:55] talent pool,

[49:55] but I feel

[49:56] like there'd

[49:57] be people

[49:57] available.

[49:58] But the

Elliott Kalan

[49:58] thing is

[49:58] you've got

[49:59] a team of

[50:00] eight other

[50:00] politicians

[50:01] and you see

[50:02] them training

[50:02] over the

[50:03] season.

[50:03] And they're

[50:04] in bouts

[50:04] against each

[50:05] other to

[50:05] get to the

[50:06] big bout

[50:06] when they're

[50:07] finally up

[50:07] against TR.

[50:08] And TR is

[50:08] like Tom

[50:10] Colicchio

[50:10] in Top Chef.

[50:11] He's going

[50:11] into the

[50:11] gym and

[50:12] watching them

[50:12] exercise and

[50:13] kind of

[50:14] playing subtle

[50:14] mind games

[50:15] to undermine

[50:15] them while

[50:16] they're

[50:16] preparing.

[50:17] And then

[50:17] they're up

[50:18] against each

[50:18] other and

[50:19] the ultimate

[50:19] goal is to

[50:20] finally battle

[50:21] Theodore Roosevelt

[50:22] at the very

[50:22] end of it.

Dan McCoy

[50:23] And the secret

[50:24] is when he

[50:25] gets in the

[50:25] ring, he just

Elliott Kalan

[50:26] shoots him in

[50:26] the face with

[50:27] a rifle.

[50:28] So you can't

[50:29] beat Teddy

[50:29] Roosevelt.

Dan McCoy

[50:30] I'm going

[50:31] to go with

[50:33] He's an

[50:33] outdoorsman.

[50:35] It's going

[50:35] to be called

[50:35] Meerkat

[50:38] Manor.

[50:39] It'll be

[50:39] called

[50:40] Teddy the

[50:41] Bear.

[50:42] And it's

[50:43] just Theodore

[50:44] Roosevelt lives

[50:45] with a family

[50:46] of bears for

[50:47] a year

[50:47] pretending to

[50:48] be one of

[50:49] them.

[50:50] Just living

[50:51] amongst them.

[50:52] Living, loving,

[50:53] laughing.

Elliott Kalan

[50:53] It's like a

[50:53] lifestyle reality

[50:54] show.

[50:55] Yeah, yeah.

[50:55] It's like

[50:55] 1800 House,

[50:57] but it's

Dan McCoy

[50:57] about bears.

[50:58] It's lifestyle

[50:58] porn.

[50:59] You want to

[50:59] live like

[50:59] bears, you

[51:00] know, all

[51:00] that fresh

[51:01] salmon.

[51:02] You can

[51:03] shit wherever

[51:03] you want,

[51:04] usually in the

[51:05] woods.

Stuart Wellington

[51:05] Only in the

[51:07] woods.

[51:07] Those fucking

[51:08] Charmin bears

[51:09] are going crazy

[51:09] with that thing.

[51:10] It's true.

[51:11] They're pooping

[51:12] all over the

[51:12] place.

[51:13] Their identity

[51:14] is defined

[51:15] by it.

Elliott Kalan

[51:18] The bear is

[51:19] in therapy

[51:19] and he's

[51:20] like, I

[51:20] just want

[51:21] to be seen

[51:21] as a bear

[51:22] who poops,

[51:23] not a

[51:23] pooping bear.

Dan McCoy

[51:24] I feel like

[51:25] the recent

[51:26] commercials have

[51:27] gotten even

[51:28] more explicit

[51:29] about the

[51:30] pooping of

[51:31] the bears

[51:32] in a way

[51:33] that suggests

[51:34] to me.

Elliott Kalan

[51:35] Tell me,

[51:36] Clarice,

[51:36] do you still

[51:36] hear the

[51:37] pooping of

[51:37] the bears?

[51:38] I just feel

[51:39] like, they

Dan McCoy

[51:40] must know

[51:41] how hated

[51:42] these goddamn

[51:43] bears are

[51:44] and they're

[51:44] just swinging

[51:45] it over to

[51:45] hate clicks.

[51:46] I do not

[51:46] think they're

[51:47] that hated

Elliott Kalan

[51:47] outside of a

[51:48] small group

[51:49] of people.

[51:49] I think the

[51:50] mainstream

[51:51] audience is

[51:52] both happy

[51:53] to finally be

[51:54] validated as,

[51:56] Everybody's

[51:56] hoops.

[51:57] Shit comes out

[51:57] of our butts

[51:58] and we have

[51:59] to clean it

[51:59] up and it

[52:00] happens to

[52:00] everybody.

[52:01] Yes, they're

[52:02] using a bear,

[52:02] but it's also

[52:03] like, imagine

[52:03] how difficult

[52:04] it is for a

[52:04] bear.

[52:06] It's a mess.

[52:07] It's a mess

[52:07] without toilet

[52:08] paper.

[52:08] It makes me

[52:09] feel better,

[52:09] but you know

[52:10] what?

[52:10] All nature's

[52:10] creatures,

[52:11] you ingest,

[52:12] you must

[52:12] excrete,

[52:13] and finally

[52:13] someone's

[52:14] admitting it

[52:14] instead of

[52:14] just talking

[52:16] around it.

[52:17] Don't talk

[52:18] about ladies

[52:19] squeezing the

[52:20] toilet paper

[52:21] in the supermarket.

[52:22] That doesn't

[52:22] tell me what it

[52:23] does.

[52:23] It is not just

Dan McCoy

[52:24] that the bears

[52:25] are open about

[52:26] pooping.

[52:26] They're very

[52:26] smug about it.

[52:27] be open about

[52:28] pooping.

[52:29] That's fine.

[52:30] It's the fact

[52:31] that the whole

[52:32] family really

[52:33] seems to get

[52:35] off on talking

[52:36] about it.

[52:36] They're so happy

[52:37] to fucking talk

[52:38] about their

[52:39] bathroom habits.

[52:40] Get out of

[52:40] here,

[52:40] Sherman Bears.

[52:41] Do you think

Stuart Wellington

[52:41] there should be

[52:42] a commercial

[52:43] where they just

[52:43] show an actual

[52:44] bear lazily

[52:45] taking a shit

[52:46] in the woods?

[52:47] And then it

[52:48] cuts to one

[52:49] of the animated

[52:50] ones who's

[52:50] like, not me,

[52:51] buddy.

[52:52] Sherman.

Elliott Kalan

[52:54] You do it.

[52:55] Admit it.

Stuart Wellington

[52:57] Okay, so.

[52:58] We're nothing

[52:59] more than

[52:59] animals in

[53:00] clothes.

[53:01] You know,

[53:02] I had like

[53:02] ten more

[53:03] presidents,

[53:03] but why don't

[53:03] we jump to

[53:04] the final

[53:04] segment here,

[53:05] guys?

[53:05] Yeah.

[53:06] This is going

[53:07] to require a

[53:08] little bit of

[53:08] audience

[53:08] participation.

[53:09] We're going

[53:09] to put up

[53:09] a poll on

[53:10] Twitter?

[53:12] I don't know,

[53:12] Dan,

[53:12] figure it out.

[53:13] Let's see if

[53:13] Twitter still

[53:13] exists by the

[53:14] time the

[53:14] episode comes

[53:15] out.

[53:15] Who knows?

Dan McCoy

[53:16] Let's see if

[53:16] we can stomach

[53:17] doing anything.

Stuart Wellington

[53:18] We have a

[53:18] new,

[53:19] this is another

[53:20] game,

[53:21] and I want

[53:21] people to vote

[53:22] on which they

[53:22] like the best.

[53:24] Each of us

[53:25] is going

[53:25] to pitch

[53:26] a reality

[53:27] television show

[53:28] that the

[53:28] other two

[53:29] Flophouse hosts

[53:30] will have to

[53:31] host.

Dan McCoy

[53:32] Hey, hey,

[53:32] let's say we'll

[53:33] do it on our

[53:33] Instagram.

[53:34] Drive people to

[53:35] the Instagram.

[53:36] Need more

[53:36] people on the

[53:37] Instagram anyway.

[53:38] You can vote

[53:38] on the Instagram,

[53:39] yeah.

[53:40] Okay, so.

Elliott Kalan

[53:41] The other two

[53:43] will host.

[53:43] They don't

[53:43] appear on.

[53:44] They're not

[53:45] contestants.

[53:46] They're not

[53:46] contestants.

[53:47] They are hosting

[53:47] it, okay?

Stuart Wellington

[53:48] And you,

[53:49] after selling

[53:50] the pitch,

[53:51] don't have to

[53:51] be involved

[53:52] ever again.

[53:53] Okay.

[53:54] So,

[53:56] I,

[53:57] why don't I

[53:57] go first,

[53:58] since I wrote

[53:59] this down

[53:59] and have an

[54:00] advantage.

[54:01] I think

[54:03] I would like

[54:04] to see

[54:05] a reality

[54:07] show called

[54:08] The Flophouse

[54:09] where Dan and

[54:09] Elliot spend

[54:10] a season

[54:11] renovating

[54:13] a home.

[54:15] Renovating

[54:16] a beat-up

[54:17] old house

[54:18] and they have

[54:18] to agree

[54:19] on all

[54:20] the decisions

[54:21] that have

[54:22] to be made.

[54:23] They have to

[54:24] work within a

[54:24] limited budget.

[54:26] Actually,

[54:26] and maybe,

[54:27] maybe it'll

[54:27] be a hotel.

[54:28] Maybe it's

[54:28] a hotel.

[54:31] Or,

[54:32] yeah,

[54:32] you know,

[54:33] similar,

[54:33] yeah,

[54:34] that's what

[54:34] I'm doing.

[54:34] Yeah.

[54:35] So,

[54:35] The Flophouse,

[54:36] a show where

[54:36] Dan and

[54:37] Elliot have

[54:37] to work

[54:38] together to

[54:39] renovate

[54:40] a hotel.

Elliott Kalan

[54:42] Okay,

[54:43] pitch one

[54:44] called The Flophelf.

[54:45] And this one,

[54:47] Stu and Dan,

[54:48] there's a stable

[54:49] of minor

[54:50] celebrity

[54:50] contestants,

[54:51] and Stu

[54:52] is trying

[54:52] to get

[54:53] them to

[54:53] bulk up

[54:54] and weight

[54:55] lift,

[54:55] while Dan

[54:56] is trying

[54:56] to get

[54:56] them to

[54:57] not do

[54:58] that and

[54:58] just sit

[55:00] and watch

[55:01] kind of

[55:02] 70s

[55:03] Italian

[55:03] exploitation

[55:04] cartoons.

[55:05] And you'll

[55:06] have to see

[55:06] which celebrities

[55:07] are going to be

[55:08] open to which

[55:08] things.

[55:09] And you can

[55:09] also,

[55:10] they all live

[55:10] in one house

[55:11] together,

[55:12] and it's called

[55:13] The Flop

[55:13] Hospital.

[55:14] And Dan and

[55:15] Stu,

[55:15] you can wake

[55:15] them up at

[55:16] any hour of

[55:16] the day or

[55:17] night and get

[55:18] them either

[55:18] exercising

[55:19] or

[55:19] chillaxing.

[55:22] Yep.

[55:23] And so,

[55:24] at the very

[55:26] end,

[55:26] you see which,

[55:27] and the celebrity

[55:28] that can best

[55:29] create a balance

[55:30] in their life.

[55:31] They aren't

[55:31] super bulked up,

[55:32] and they are not

[55:33] just a couch potato,

[55:34] but instead,

[55:35] that they are

[55:35] enjoying life

[55:36] to the fullest

[55:36] in both ways.

[55:37] They win the

[55:38] chance to be

[55:40] the future face

[55:41] of Prego

[55:42] spaghetti sauce.

Stuart Wellington

[55:43] Oh,

[55:43] so there is

[55:44] a competition

[55:44] element.

[55:45] Yeah,

[55:45] there's a competition

[55:46] element.

[55:46] I kind of like

[55:46] this.

[55:47] Okay.

[55:47] Yeah.

[55:48] And that's

[55:48] the flop

[55:49] health.

[55:49] The flop

[55:50] health,

[55:50] yeah.

Dan McCoy

[55:51] I'd just

[55:52] like to say,

[55:53] I've started

[55:54] going to yoga

[55:54] classes three

[55:55] times a week,

[55:56] so I'm no

[55:57] longer.

[55:58] This is the

[55:58] Dan persona.

[55:59] I just want

[56:00] to,

[56:00] I mean,

[56:00] I would

[56:01] rather be

[56:02] watching Jala

[56:03] movies,

[56:03] but anyway,

[56:06] I'm going to,

[56:08] my pitch is

[56:10] going to be

[56:10] called Elliot

[56:11] and Stuart

[56:12] Metal Nerds.

[56:13] Okay.

[56:14] Okay.

[56:15] It's going

[56:15] to be like

[56:16] you will

[56:17] travel,

[56:17] and to

[56:19] a bunch

[56:19] of metal

[56:20] concerts

[56:21] across the

[56:21] land.

[56:22] Part of

[56:23] it's like

[56:23] a travel

[56:24] show,

[56:24] like just

[56:25] being in

[56:25] these towns,

[56:26] we see

[56:26] you like

[56:26] guys fuck

[56:27] around,

[56:27] but then

[56:28] you like

[56:28] hang out

[56:29] with the

[56:29] band

[56:29] afterward.

[56:31] and part

[56:32] of the

[56:32] fun of

[56:33] the show

[56:33] is Stuart

[56:34] always

[56:34] trying to

[56:35] keep

[56:35] Elliot

[56:35] out at

[56:37] the party

[56:37] as long

[56:39] as he

[56:39] possibly

[56:39] can

[56:40] and

[56:41] seeing

[56:41] Elliot

[56:42] get

[56:42] tireder

[56:43] and more

[56:43] uncomfortable

[56:43] with everything

[56:44] that's happening

[56:45] around him.

[56:46] Tell me about it.

Stuart Wellington

[56:47] I got to go

[56:47] back to my hotel

[56:48] room to call

[56:49] my family.

[56:49] I'm like,

[56:49] I don't think

[56:50] so,

[56:50] dude.

[56:50] We got to go

[56:51] talk to these

[56:52] guys from

[56:52] Scandinavia.

[56:53] The Family

[56:54] of Metal.

[56:56] Wow,

[56:56] that sounds

[56:57] fun.

[56:57] Those are

[56:57] three fun

[56:58] ideas.

[56:59] So put

[56:59] on your

[57:00] votes over

[57:00] at the

[57:00] Flap House

[57:01] Instagram

[57:01] and then

[57:02] we'll

[57:03] make it.

[57:04] I guess

[57:04] we'll have

[57:05] to do it.

Elliott Kalan

[57:07] And something

[57:08] I should

[57:08] mention before

[57:08] we go,

[57:08] this is not

[57:09] a joke,

[57:10] although we're

[57:10] ending on a

[57:11] funny note,

[57:12] is that even

[57:12] reality shows

[57:13] involve people

[57:14] who are

[57:14] crafting the

[57:15] narrative.

[57:16] Those shows

[57:16] are written

[57:17] and so they

[57:18] should be

[57:18] covered by

[57:19] the Writers

[57:19] Guild of

[57:19] America and

[57:20] someday soon

[57:21] hopefully they

[57:21] will.

[57:21] Reality shows

[57:22] you are not

[57:22] our enemies.

[57:23] You are

[57:23] instead our

[57:24] brothers in

[57:24] television

[57:24] entertainment

[57:25] production and

[57:26] we hope to

[57:27] absorb you

[57:27] into the

[57:28] fold and

[57:28] our loving

[57:29] embrace and

[57:30] our health

[57:30] plan sometime

[57:33] soon.

Stuart Wellington

[57:34] Okay,

[57:34] so this has

[57:35] been another

[57:36] astounding

[57:37] episode of

[57:38] Revelations on

[57:39] Two Boy

[57:40] talking tube to

[57:41] two dudes

[57:41] today.

[57:42] Yes way.

[57:43] I've been your

[57:44] host,

[57:44] two boys,

[57:45] Stuart Wellington,

[57:45] and I'm

[57:46] joined by

[57:47] Dan McCoy

[57:48] and metal

[57:49] nerd Elliot

[57:50] Kalin.

[57:50] Yay,

[57:51] and we're on

[57:52] the Maximum

[57:53] Fun Network.

[57:53] You can

[57:53] check out

[57:54] more shows.

[57:54] You can

[57:55] support us

[57:55] over there.

[57:56] Thanks so

[57:56] much.

[57:57] Thanks to

[57:57] our producer

[57:58] Howell Doughty,

[57:59] Alex Smith,

[58:00] for fixing this

[58:01] whole thing up.

[58:02] I think that's

[58:03] it.

[58:03] Bye.

[58:04] Bye.

Elliott Kalan

[58:11] Maximumfun.org.

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