Ep.#409 - Mafia Mamma, with Hallie Haglund

[0:00] On this episode, we discuss Mafia Mama, part of our series of best movies of the year.

[0:31] Hey everyone, welcome to the Flop House. I'm Dan McCoy.

[0:35] I'm Stuart Wellington.

[0:37] I'm Elliot Kalin.

[0:39] And I'm Hallie Haglund.

[0:41] That's right, we've got a Hallie Haglund here.

[0:43] Surprise, Hallie.

[0:46] Are you surprising Hallie, or are you surprising everyone else that Hallie's here?

[0:51] We're surprising everyone else that Hallie's here.

[0:53] What did you get me?

[0:54] Hallie didn't know she was going to be on the show. We're in her room now. We just woke her up.

[0:58] I've had dreams like this. Nightmares.

[1:04] It is kind of like we're surprising Hallie, because Audrey and I were in the middle of watching Mafia Mama,

[1:11] and she was texting someone who was like, would Hallie like this movie?

[1:15] And Audrey asked me that question. I'm like, shit, we've got to get Hallie on this episode,

[1:21] because this would be a great episode for her.

[1:23] Hallie's what's known as a tastemaker.

[1:25] So last minute we contacted her.

[1:27] And I'm grateful. I'm so grateful.

[1:30] Does this make up for all the bullshit movies we've made you watch?

[1:33] Almost.

[1:34] Almost, yay!

[1:36] Like the real Mafia Mama, she doesn't give up praise easily.

[1:39] So this is the flop house we watch a bad movie and talk about it,

[1:42] except this week when we watch Mafia Mama, a movie that has loomed large in my imagination.

[1:47] A movie that as soon as I heard about it, I'm like, is this a joke movie?

[1:51] And then I saw it was an actual movie.

[1:53] When the strike started and we decided we were not going to do new movies for the duration of the strike,

[1:57] Stuart just kept saying, when the strike's over, we'll do Mafia Mama, right?

[2:00] When we're done with the strike, we'll do Mafia Mama.

[2:02] It was the one movie that the flash, not on his cultural radar.

[2:05] Mafia Mama was the big tentpole release.

[2:08] I was flying back from Athens, Greece, not Athens, Ohio, just to make it clear.

[2:14] And everybody else was watching Mafia Mama,

[2:18] and I had to watch the uncut version of Infinity Pool instead.

[2:23] Just on my laptop.

[2:25] Torture.

[2:26] You had to?

[2:27] Because that's another movie you talked about for a long time.

[2:29] All of that just sprayed out all over the rest of the planet.

[2:32] It's funny that the main reason you wanted to watch that uncensored cut

[2:35] is because you knew that there was an actual penis in this cut.

[2:39] Well, not an actual penis because I believe it was a prosthetic, but there was a penis shot.

[2:42] I'll do my own research, Dan.

[2:45] It's funny that that was the main draw of the unrated cut,

[2:49] but you were specifically watching it on a plane.

[2:51] You're like, everyone's going to see this penis shot.

[2:54] I'm like, wasn't the theatrical cut missing this?

[2:58] Didn't you need to see a big fat rope of jizz shooting out of a prosthetic wiener?

[3:03] I don't know what this movie is.

[3:06] So we're talking about Mafia Mama today, or are we talking about the uncut Infinity Pool?

[3:12] Let's talk more about rope jizz.

[3:15] Gladly.

[3:18] Are you running out of jizz too quick?

[3:20] Pick up rope of jizz.

[3:22] It's the long strand you need.

[3:25] That's the porn strategy, rope of jizz.

[3:30] Come like a butterfly, jizz like a bee.

[3:33] No, Mom, I said nerd rope.

[3:36] Not jizz rope.

[3:39] That's a candy, remember?

[3:41] One of my kids got a nerd rope, and every day we're like, you can have one piece of candy.

[3:46] He holds that up, he goes, this one?

[3:48] No, that's way too big.

[3:51] Well, then how will he ever eat it?

[3:54] That's the catch-22 of nerd rope.

[3:57] The thing is, they never should have left Jeffrey Epstein alone with that nerd rope in his cell.

[4:02] They thought he was just going to eat it.

[4:04] That's why they left him for a while.

[4:06] They said, I can't watch this.

[4:07] It's going to be so sticky and gross.

[4:09] That nerd rope's big.

[4:10] Everyone's going to hate this episode.

[4:12] It's a big candy.

[4:14] Guard, guard, can I have one piece of my Halloween candy?

[4:18] Which one, Jeffrey?

[4:23] This is going to be the worst episode ever.

[4:25] I should have known when I had to stop him from tagging himself with that candy necklace last time.

[4:30] So Mafia Mama, this is all relevant, right?

[4:33] Stuart, I wanted to ask you, what was it about Mafia Mama that so struck your fancy, that captured your imagination?

[4:40] Well, I mean, it's an alliterative title, Daniel, so I think that helps.

[4:44] Same reason you liked Mamma Mia.

[4:47] I love when an actor that I consider to be, I don't know if I'd say A-list, but an actor that I consider to be a serious actor with a big range.

[4:58] Certainly A-list talent.

[4:59] One of the best actors working.

[5:01] Yes.

[5:02] Who takes on a role that looks like it's a movie poster from an episode of 30 Rock.

[5:10] It does seem like if someone said in an episode of 30 Rock, they were like, oh yeah, that's the movie where Toni Collette's a suburban mom who inherits the mafia.

[5:16] You'd be like, yeah, that makes sense as a joke.

[5:19] And it's also like I love the idea of I'm a sucker for ladies getting their groove back movies.

[5:27] And I feel like you're also a sucker for the kind of women that show up in mob movies.

[5:31] Brassy, loud talking, aggressive, you know?

[5:35] Mm-hmm. Yep.

[5:36] All those things, you guys got me dead to rights.

[5:39] Book me, put me in jail.

[5:41] It's about fetishes, I get it now.

[5:42] Yeah, to be fair, it's not a movie I was looking forward to, but when I found out that Monica Bellucci was in it, I was like, all right, then I'll watch this with at least a certain amount of enjoyment.

[5:51] Well, and not to tip my hand, but as I was watching it, I'm like, why am I enjoying this more than I expect?

[5:57] And I think it's because it is very reminiscent to me of the sort of period where they were making these kinds of comedies, very high-concept comedies that they would plug a star into.

[6:07] And then success or failure, they would end up on HBO being played over and over again during the daylight hours.

[6:14] And so I'm printed on them.

[6:17] Yeah, Dan, when you were watching it, you were texting us that it was giving you real Nuns on the Run vibes.

[6:21] Yes.

[6:22] Nuns on the Run, King Ralph, If Looks Could Kill.

[6:25] Exactly.

[6:26] Basically all the best movies.

[6:28] In the 90s, there were a lot of high-concept comedies about someone being placed in a position that was a silly position for them to be.

[6:35] Yeah.

[6:36] Sister Act.

[6:37] Sister Act, very much so.

[6:38] Fishes Out of Water were big in the 80s.

[6:40] Yeah.

[6:41] Probably because of the gutting of the EPA.

[6:44] It was a big environmental problem.

[6:45] People were taking fish out of water and just leaving them on the street.

[6:48] Yeah.

[6:49] And the EPA had to step in.

[6:50] That's why you can go to jail for doing that.

[6:51] They had to raise the penalty to stop it.

[6:53] Yeah, and the EPA shows up and you're like, I did it as a goof.

[6:56] It's funny.

[6:58] And they're like, oh, well, if you do it as a joke, it doesn't count as a crime.

[7:01] Look at that miss struggling to figure out how to fit in in the air.

[7:05] Yep.

[7:07] He's trying his skills.

[7:08] Those won't work.

[7:09] Only a few fish out of water comedies have the same stakes as taking a fish out of the

[7:13] water, which is nearly instant death.

[7:16] But this was one of them.

[7:19] I never thought I'd see a movie with Tony Collette running from this many bullets.

[7:24] This is a gruesome movie, too, for what it is, but we'll get it.

[7:27] Shockingly gory.

[7:28] It is shockingly gory.

[7:30] Maybe I did like this movie.

[7:31] Obviously, I enjoyed this movie with a hearty bowl of pasta that I made myself because I

[7:36] don't know about you guys.

[7:37] I like the full immersive experience.

[7:40] Okay.

[7:41] What kind of pasta was it?

[7:43] It was cavatappi with broccoli rabe, pesto, spinach, some sun-dried tomatoes.

[7:51] If it's a real Italian thing, they don't just say pasta.

[7:53] They tell you what kind it is.

[7:56] Unless they say macaroni and gravy and you're like, that's not what that is.

[7:59] It's spaghetti and tomato sauce.

[8:01] Why are you calling it this?

[8:02] Yeah.

[8:04] We are introduced to Kristen, played by Tony Collette.

[8:08] Kristen is an L.A. mom who has kind of lost her mojo.

[8:13] She works, I guess, for a pharmaceutical company doing advertising.

[8:18] She's in marketing for pharmaceuticals, yeah.

[8:20] At the most misogynistic pharmaceutical company you can imagine.

[8:23] They are all assholes.

[8:24] Nobody respects her.

[8:26] They don't take her seriously.

[8:28] They love jet skis.

[8:29] I want to clarify that my hearty laugh there wasn't at the misogyny.

[8:33] It was about remembering how they love to put jet skis in all of their ads.

[8:36] Yeah, they do love to put jet skis in their ads.

[8:38] Every ad has to have someone on a jet ski, yeah.

[8:40] Her son, Dominic, is going away to college in Portland.

[8:44] That's very far and that's tough for her.

[8:46] And her husband, Paul, who's in H-

[8:48] Not that far. It's the same coast.

[8:49] I mean, yeah.

[8:50] Unless it's Portland, Maine, I guess.

[8:51] That's a far way to go.

[8:52] I think it's all relative, Elliot.

[8:53] Just like her husband, Paul, who's her relative because he's her husband.

[8:58] He's an aging rock star.

[9:00] She's only related to her husband by marriage because otherwise there's some problems with that relationship.

[9:03] I think the more significant relativity, if you will, is who her great-grandfather is.

[9:08] But we'll get to that in a second.

[9:09] Just grandfather, right?

[9:10] Well, we'll get to it.

[9:11] Oh, is it?

[9:12] Yeah.

[9:13] Her husband's an aging rock star.

[9:14] He's kind of a man baby.

[9:16] And he is also cheating on her with her son's guidance counselor.

[9:20] And you can tell this is a certain kind of movie because she catches them having fully clothed sex.

[9:25] This is not a movie for the period.

[9:27] Yeah, Elliot's mad that we don't get to see fucking buttholes and shit.

[9:33] I just always think it's funny when characters are – at first, watching that scene, I had to realize like, oh, wait.

[9:38] They're having sex right now because they were in the position for sex, but they were both wearing all of their clothes.

[9:43] Elliot, I will explain that sometimes it's hotter to be wearing clothes because it feels like you're doing something a little bit.

[9:50] No, but it's literally hotter.

[9:51] You're getting so sweaty.

[9:52] Hallie's eyes are lighting up.

[10:00] No, you're going to say it feels like you're doing something naughty and they were doing

[10:05] something naughty.

[10:06] They were cheating.

[10:07] He was double hot.

[10:08] In the same house.

[10:09] Yes.

[10:10] Hot square.

[10:11] And Tony Collette is like, it's bad enough you're cheating on me, but in your clothes.

[10:14] In your clothes.

[10:15] I can think of now you walking around in your sweaty jeans all day after this.

[10:19] How can I ever see you in clothes again?

[10:21] Yeah.

[10:22] And she's like, I'm probably going to have to clean the fucking cum stains out of your

[10:25] jeans later.

[10:26] The cum rope.

[10:27] Yeah.

[10:29] OK, so I don't I don't want that to be the running theme of this episode, please.

[10:33] I don't want that to be the rope that runs through it.

[10:35] Relax.

[10:36] Just your life.

[10:37] Just flow.

[10:38] You got to go with it.

[10:39] Thinking about the Robert Redford movie, a cum rope runs through it.

[10:41] And of course, and of course, the other Robert Redford movie, three days of the cum rope.

[10:50] Oh, God.

[10:52] OK, so she gets a phone call from Rome.

[10:57] It is a woman named Bianca played by.

[10:59] That's right.

[11:00] Monica Bellucci.

[11:01] One of the great stars.

[11:02] Not to be confused with Monica Bellucci.

[11:05] I assume Jim Bellucci is wife or sister or daughter or niece.

[11:11] Very distant relative.

[11:12] Or drag persona.

[11:13] Who knows?

[11:14] If there was a movie with and maybe this exists and I just don't know about it, in which case

[11:18] I'm going to have to I'm going to have to contain my excitement.

[11:22] If there was ever a movie with Monica Bellucci and Michelle Yeoh in it, I would go bananas.

[11:28] That would be so exciting to me.

[11:29] I was talking about his fetishes.

[11:30] Yeah, exactly.

[11:31] Well, just like I feel like they're they're two kind of like world class stars of international

[11:35] film, you know, of a foreign film who have made in the United States.

[11:37] I want to see them in a movie now.

[11:39] Maybe it's the mob versus, I don't know, a Hong Kong cop.

[11:43] As long as they can be buddies, I want them to be buddies.

[11:45] Eventually they'll be buddies.

[11:46] Yes.

[11:47] Perhaps more.

[11:48] Mm hmm.

[11:49] I mean, they'll be buddies.

[11:50] But I feel like they're going to be in-laws.

[11:51] She cannot.

[11:52] OK.

[11:53] She cannot do a scene where it doesn't feel like she's about to make out with you.

[11:57] We'll talk about one of those later on.

[11:59] I kept thinking her.

[12:00] Yeah.

[12:01] Yeah.

[12:02] She's she's she because she's got a certain intense amour feeling to her.

[12:05] Yeah.

[12:06] OK.

[12:07] So that's amour.

[12:08] Mm hmm.

[12:09] Yeah.

[12:10] Yeah.

[12:11] Did you notice the scene where the moon hit her eye like a big piece of pie?

[12:12] That's actually not amour.

[12:13] That's abuse.

[12:14] I did notice that.

[12:15] The moon hits her in the eye.

[12:16] That is abuse.

[12:17] And you should not have to accept it.

[12:18] And you can stay at my apartment tonight.

[12:20] I thought I'd fallen asleep, though, after watching this in moonfall and just combined

[12:24] the movies together.

[12:25] Here's the question.

[12:27] When the moon hits your eye like a big piece of pie, do big piece of pies routinely hit

[12:30] you in the eye?

[12:31] I just fucking realized that's what my doctor asked me.

[12:35] Yeah.

[12:36] The moon struck.

[12:37] Yeah.

[12:38] Discoveries.

[12:39] Well, the moon strike is more of a mania, like a love mania that the moon causes.

[12:42] Right.

[12:43] And a werewolf.

[12:44] Because Nicolas Cage is kind of a werewolf in that movie.

[12:46] You know what?

[12:47] I never paid attention to the like.

[12:48] I was always thinking it was about getting hit with a pizza.

[12:51] Until now.

[12:52] Yeah.

[12:53] We're all learning stuff today, guys.

[12:54] Yeah.

[12:55] That's why you proposed to your husband by throwing a pizza at his face.

[12:58] Yeah.

[12:59] You said that's a morning, bitch.

[13:00] This is what love is.

[13:01] Deal with it.

[13:02] This is what love is.

[13:03] No, eat it.

[13:04] In your clothes.

[13:05] So, Stuart, what did she learn, Toni Collette's character?

[13:10] Oh, yeah.

[13:11] She learns.

[13:12] Toni Collette learns that her grandfather has passed away and that she needs to go to

[13:16] Rome to settle the estate, like, right now.

[13:19] She needs to get on a plane right now.

[13:20] And that's a long flight.

[13:22] But she's resistant.

[13:23] She has a conversation with her friend Jenny, who's a lawyer, when they're at like a boxing

[13:27] class.

[13:28] And this is where we learn.

[13:29] Self-defense class.

[13:30] It's like self-defense fitness.

[13:31] Yeah.

[13:32] Yeah.

[13:33] And this is where we learn Kristen's overriding want-goal mission in this movie.

[13:38] If this is a musical, she'd sing a song about it.

[13:41] Summarized as eat, pray, fuck.

[13:43] And if you guys know me, anything about me, you know this is my credo as well.

[13:47] I mean, the pray part?

[13:49] That's the credo.

[13:51] Elliot, my church, it's the gym.

[13:54] Prayer for me.

[13:55] Pushing plates, baby.

[13:56] So.

[13:57] Pushing plates.

[13:58] That's like a Pushing Tens sequel.

[13:59] But it's about being a waiter.

[14:00] I don't hold airplanes anymore.

[14:01] I work as a waiter at a restaurant now.

[14:02] I want to ask something about, like, this self-defense thing.

[14:03] Was it just me or, like, it sort of gets paid off later in the movie?

[14:04] It very much gets paid off.

[14:05] Yeah, it does.

[14:06] Yeah, it does.

[14:07] Yeah.

[14:08] Yeah.

[14:09] Yeah.

[14:10] Yeah.

[14:11] Yeah.

[14:12] Yeah.

[14:13] Yeah.

[14:14] Yeah.

[14:15] Yeah.

[14:16] Yeah.

[14:17] Yeah.

[14:18] Yeah.

[14:19] Yeah.

[14:20] Yeah.

[14:21] Well, let me tell you guys about this.

[14:24] Completely.

[14:25] When she uses what she learned to defend herself?

[14:26] Yeah.

[14:27] Hold up.

[14:28] You mean with the stiletto heel?

[14:29] Yeah.

[14:30] Yeah, that's fine.

[14:31] But I kept expecting there to be a more specific part where, like, taking the gun away paid

[14:38] off.

[14:39] She does it, like, multiple times.

[14:40] Kind of.

[14:41] Yeah, but not in the way shown in the movie.

[14:44] Not every movie does the move have to match up exactly.

[14:45] She was like saying the same thing.

[14:48] Yeah.

[14:49] Yeah.

[14:50] But look, maybe I'm crazy.

[14:52] I thought that it pays off clumsily because it is not, it does not look enough like, like,

[14:58] I expect in visual language for it to, like, be a mirror if this is going to be, like,

[15:03] a payoff gag.

[15:04] But.

[15:05] Dan, I never thought I was going to say this.

[15:06] I think you are holding Mafia Mama to a higher standard of sophistication than it needs to

[15:11] be held to.

[15:12] All right.

[15:13] All right.

[15:14] Fair enough.

[15:15] It was also doing a lot of heavy lifting in that scene.

[15:16] Yes.

[15:17] Yeah.

[15:18] A ton.

[15:19] It was already an homage to Single White Female.

[15:21] Mm hmm.

[15:22] Yep.

[15:23] Now, in this boxing scene, Toni Collette is doing very bad punches.

[15:28] And I think and she at this point is like one of the things I love about this movie

[15:33] is how Toni Collette is like fully committed to exactly what this movie is.

[15:37] At this point, she is like super goofy and silly and like her voice for this is perfect.

[15:42] The accent she's using is perfect for it.

[15:45] She's two thumbs up.

[15:46] OK.

[15:47] So she flies to Rome at the airport in Rome.

[15:49] She bumps into Lorenzo, a sexy Italian gentleman who we learn later is recently divorced, and

[15:55] he gets her phone number.

[15:57] She also meets her drivers, Dante and Aldo, who give very good comedic performances throughout

[16:04] this entire movie.

[16:05] Two thumbs up to those guys.

[16:06] I would say with the material they're given, they do they do a fine job.

[16:09] OK.

[16:10] Again, Elliot's on hater patrol.

[16:12] I get it.

[16:13] But I didn't walk waving like Dante and Aldo were the breakout stars, you know.

[16:16] It's also I mean, I guess this is a type of character that always works on me.

[16:21] I always enjoy like the goon that turns out to be like surprisingly supportive.

[16:27] Yeah.

[16:28] And there's like a kind of like a tall, skinny one and like a shorter round one like that's

[16:33] the best.

[16:34] That is classic.

[16:35] Yeah.

[16:36] People like Lady and the Tramp.

[16:38] Exactly.

[16:39] Just like Lady and the Tramp.

[16:40] Yeah.

[16:41] Lady, the tall one or the.

[16:42] No, the goons.

[16:43] Oh, the goons.

[16:44] So she is taken to the funeral.

[16:51] She gets dressed in the car.

[16:52] Take me to the funeral.

[16:55] There's me with the mourners.

[16:58] There she meets.

[16:59] She meets Bianca.

[17:00] She also meets her cousin, Fabrizio, who has a neck tattoo, looks like a mafioso type guy,

[17:07] does not seem to like her.

[17:08] Classic hothead.

[17:09] Classic mafia hothead in all these movies.

[17:11] Yeah.

[17:12] Very mercurial.

[17:13] Very mercurial.

[17:14] Yeah.

[17:15] Very Mercutio.

[17:16] Like, actually, he's more like Tybalt.

[17:17] He's more like Tybalt.

[17:18] Yeah, he's way more like Tybalt.

[17:19] Yeah, he's like Tybalt.

[17:20] Tybalt's death was slow enough.

[17:21] Yeah.

[17:22] If it had ended there.

[17:23] That's the.

[17:24] I can do the whole thing.

[17:25] OK, never mind.

[17:26] Sorry.

[17:27] Sorry.

[17:28] Thank you for your apology.

[17:29] So the funeral procession.

[17:30] American Rascal, everybody.

[17:31] What a stinker.

[17:32] The funeral procession gets ambushed.

[17:33] There's a shootout.

[17:34] And they are forced to flee, I believe with the casket, although I don't think that's

[17:35] the casket.

[17:36] I don't think that's the casket.

[17:37] They get ambushed.

[17:38] There's a shootout and they are forced to flee, I believe with the casket, although

[17:43] I don't remember them taking the casket with them.

[17:45] Maybe they shrink it down and put it in their pockets.

[17:49] This is our first big action sequence.

[17:50] This is not like an important thing to me.

[17:53] Like, where's that casket?

[17:54] It's a dead body, Dan.

[17:55] I will say, this was, I found this to be a somewhat underwhelming action sequence, but

[18:00] that's OK.

[18:01] Yeah.

[18:02] I fell asleep during it.

[18:03] OK.

[18:05] I find myself, as I get older, getting less and less interested or excited by shootout

[18:10] scenes in movies.

[18:11] Like, I kind of start to glaze over when it's just guns firing.

[18:14] And yet, martial arts or hand-to-hand fighting scenes, I still am in awe.

[18:18] Elliot, I agree with you, but I've been there forever.

[18:21] This is why, this is a controversial position.

[18:24] I understand all of, like, the plot reasons and the influence reasons this is an important

[18:29] movie.

[18:30] I've never been as much of a diehard fan as a lot of people who are like, that's the best

[18:33] action movie.

[18:34] Oh, you mean a fan of diehard.

[18:35] Yeah.

[18:36] OK.

[18:37] Because it's like, so much of it is...

[18:38] A diehard fan of what?

[18:39] Yeah.

[18:40] Because, like, so much of it, when the action actually happens, there's some good suspense

[18:43] scenes, but when the action happens, it's just shooting at each other, and I want, like,

[18:47] a sequence, man.

[18:48] I want, like...

[18:49] Yeah.

[18:50] Well, it's like, I just started watching Raiders of the Lost Ark with my older son, Sammy,

[18:53] which he has not seen before.

[18:54] We're about halfway through it now.

[18:55] And it's, watching again, it's like, oh yeah, these are like sequences.

[18:58] Like, a thing happens, then a thing happens, and even, and when Indiana Jones shoots somebody,

[19:03] usually it's a punctuation point to something, or it's the scene with the swordsman, which,

[19:08] gratifyingly, Sammy thought was hilarious.

[19:10] Like, I didn't have to explain that joke to him, and he goes, I want to see that again.

[19:14] I'm like, alright, it's questionably racist, but alright, we'll watch it again, it's a

[19:18] great moment.

[19:19] Yeah, I think diehard just really needs a sequence where John McClane goes to, like,

[19:23] a droid factory, and like, falls onto a conveyor belt, and he has, like, died.

[19:27] He's hopping from different platforms, yeah, sure.

[19:28] Wouldn't that have been, oh, that'd be great.

[19:30] OK.

[19:31] You know we, that's not what we're talking about.

[19:33] So we're, now we're back at the villa, Bianca and Fabrizio kind of explain the situation.

[19:39] This villa is, and I'll say, this villa is also, it's classic lady movie affluence porn.

[19:44] Like, it's enormous, it's beautiful, it's- There's a bed outside in the garden.

[19:49] Yeah, it's your idea of what Italy is.

[19:51] A canopy bed.

[19:52] A canopy bed, yeah.

[19:53] Outside.

[19:54] Yum, yum, yum.

[19:55] It's not like it never rains in Italy.

[19:56] It is mostly a dry climate, I guess, but, you know.

[19:58] But, you know, something's gotta happen.

[20:00] hydrate that terroir.

[20:04] That's a wine term.

[20:06] That's a wine term.

[20:07] Terroir.

[20:08] Yeah.

[20:09] Appropriate.

[20:10] So she learns that she is part of the Balbano family, which is a crime family that also

[20:15] make wine poorly as a front.

[20:17] And that they are-

[20:18] Very different than being part of the Balaban family, which is a movie studio and acting

[20:23] dynasty but not involved in crime as far as I know.

[20:25] Oh, interesting.

[20:26] Can you explain more about that?

[20:28] Well, actually, I want to know a little bit more about that.

[20:30] Who are the other people in the dynasty?

[20:31] Well, because Bob Balaban's uncle, I think it was either his uncle or his grandfather.

[20:36] I don't think it was his father.

[20:37] It was like a big studio mogul.

[20:38] He's a Nepo baby?

[20:39] Nepo baby.

[20:40] Yeah.

[20:41] Bob Balaban is a Nepo baby.

[20:42] Wow.

[20:43] You wouldn't guess it.

[20:44] He looks like a baby.

[20:45] I know.

[20:46] There you go.

[20:47] He has a beard, Dan.

[20:48] I mean, he's a baby with a beard.

[20:49] Wait, wait.

[20:50] I need my Bob Balaban.

[20:51] Yeah.

[20:52] Give me my Bob Balaban.

[20:53] I'm with Dan.

[20:54] You can put a beard on a baby.

[20:55] It's the law.

[20:56] It's it.

[20:57] It's Halloween.

[20:58] There are babies with beards all over the place.

[20:59] Okay.

[21:00] So they, the Balabanos have a rival crime family, the Romanos.

[21:06] Not to be confused with the Roma.

[21:09] Yeah.

[21:10] The Romanos.

[21:11] Thank you.

[21:12] Oh, everybody loves this mafia family.

[21:13] And that they're in a mafia feud.

[21:16] Okay.

[21:17] No.

[21:18] No.

[21:19] Not a feud.

[21:20] That's a good Ray Romano, Dan.

[21:21] Yeah.

[21:22] That's pretty good.

[21:23] Yeah.

[21:24] That's pretty good.

[21:25] It's a little.

[21:26] Is that Ernie?

[21:27] I'm rooting with the Balabanos.

[21:28] Is that Kermit?

[21:29] Mine is becoming Kermit.

[21:30] We've got to wipe out our enemies to establish supremacy in the cocaine trade.

[21:31] That's Kermit as a mob boss.

[21:32] As he's explaining to Miss Piggy before they have really hot sex.

[21:33] I told you, Miss Piggy, you can ask me about my business once.

[21:34] And he goes, ah, Kermy, are you a mob boss?

[21:35] No, of course not, Piggy.

[21:36] And then as she goes, I'm a mob boss.

[21:37] I'm a mob boss.

[22:45] And they don't understand pork.

[22:46] Well, three-year-olds understand pork.

[22:47] I don't know.

[22:48] You can put a three-year-old in charge of a sausage store and see what happens.

[22:52] OK, I have a two-year-old.

[22:53] I have a four-year-old.

[22:54] Let's put them together and see if they half understand pork.

[22:57] That's a good point.

[22:59] That's a good idea.

[23:01] We call that mommy math.

[23:03] She watches a video message from her grandfather explaining that she has inherited this mafia

[23:10] family.

[23:11] She is the new Dawn of this dynasty.

[23:13] There's some comedy bits in there.

[23:15] Fabrizio is super angry.

[23:17] He should be the next Dawn, obviously.

[23:20] And Kristen, you know what?

[23:21] She's resistant.

[23:23] She came here to eat, pray, fuck.

[23:24] She did not come here to run a crime family.

[23:27] She says, I want my eat, pray, fuck so many times in this movie.

[23:30] So many times.

[23:31] Yeah, so many times.

[23:32] Eventually, it does pay off.

[23:34] I was not wild about the eat, pray, fuck as a joke, but I liked the payoff for it.

[23:38] I loved the payoff.

[23:39] I lolled.

[23:40] I laughed out loud.

[23:43] There's a bit where one of her guards, Aldo, explains that it's a play on eat, pray, love

[23:50] and is familiar with the book.

[23:51] He's clearly been inspired by the book, was touched by it.

[23:54] So she agrees to help with the negotiations for peace, but she makes a stipulation that

[24:01] she'll do it as long as she can have her fling with Lorenzo, the hot guy she met at the airport.

[24:06] So she meets...

[24:07] With us?

[24:08] Getting...

[24:09] No.

[24:10] Let's not.

[24:11] I feel like we're entering rope territory again, and I do not want to go there.

[24:20] No entry.

[24:21] Hallie, what were you going to say about Lorenzo?

[24:24] No, I was just...

[24:26] Nevermind.

[24:27] Let's just leave it at Lorenzo's Island.

[24:29] Lorenzo's Island?

[24:30] Welcome to Lorenzo's Island.

[24:31] Lorenzo's Island.

[24:32] Lorenzo Lamas?

[24:33] You have your own island?

[24:34] Well, I snuck onto the island.

[24:35] He's a renegade.

[24:36] He is a renegade.

[24:37] Yeah.

[24:38] Now, do you want me to use my laser pointer to point out where you could lose weight?

[24:39] Nah, I don't think so.

[24:40] I'll probably go.

[24:41] So she meets...

[24:42] After a little bit of a makeover, where she gets dressed up to look like a mafia Donya...

[24:49] Donya?

[24:50] Don...

[24:51] Whatever.

[24:52] Don.

[24:53] Mama.

[24:54] Mama.

[24:55] Mafia Mama.

[24:56] My mistake.

[24:57] I keep forgetting.

[24:58] Mafia Mama.

[24:59] Mafia Mama.

[25:00] Mafia Mama.

[25:01] Mafia Mama.

[25:02] Mafia Mama.

[25:03] Mafia Mama.

[25:04] Mafia Mama.

[25:05] Mafia Mama.

[25:06] My mistake.

[25:07] I keep mispronouncing it.

[25:08] She meets Don Carlo, who is the rival mob boss, at a restaurant.

[25:09] I feel like there are tons of, like, understated funny moments.

[25:14] Like, the way she was dressed before her makeover, it was like she was out of, like, a Chico's

[25:19] catalog.

[25:20] That was so funny.

[25:21] Yeah.

[25:22] Yeah, it was funny.

[25:23] It was, like, all earth tones.

[25:24] Also, I mean, Audrey pointed this out.

[25:26] I was not as attuned to it, but she was totally right, like, the way that over the course

[25:31] of the movie, her costume changes.

[25:33] It becomes more, first it becomes, like, you know, more chic and more looking directly

[25:38] like Monica Bellucci.

[25:39] And then she, like, sort of gets her own style at the end.

[25:42] Yeah.

[25:43] Yeah.

[25:44] By the time she has that.

[25:45] She looks like Bridget Fonda in Single White Female.

[25:47] Oh, wow.

[25:48] There's one specific outfit, the white, okay.

[25:51] Yeah.

[25:52] Single white outfit.

[25:53] Single white outfit.

[25:54] So, she meets the rival mob boss at a restaurant from Negotiations.

[25:58] She is very.

[25:59] No more.

[26:00] No more of that, Alec.

[26:01] She was very nice.

[26:02] Which I mean, later.

[26:03] Bring it up again later so I can say, oh, no, not again.

[26:04] No, it's okay.

[26:05] Stuart's getting mad.

[26:06] Stuart's getting mad.

[26:07] I like it.

[26:08] Sorry, Stuart.

[26:09] I'm not getting mad.

[26:10] I'm.

[26:11] So, she goes.

[26:12] She goes to the meeting with the other mob head.

[26:14] Oh.

[26:15] Oh, we're doing the summary still.

[26:16] So, yeah.

[26:17] I mean, here's a podcast.

[26:18] I love the way that Stuart gets mad about being interrupted is so different than the

[26:23] way Dan gets mad about being interrupted.

[26:25] I love both of them equally.

[26:28] So, she meets the rival mob boss from Negotiations at a restaurant.

[26:31] She's very nice to the waitress.

[26:33] That's going to pay off later.

[26:35] She's a lot of gnocchi.

[26:36] Yeah.

[26:37] She eats a lot of gnocchi.

[26:38] She's like super goofy and she gets drunk and she's like horny because this is a hot

[26:42] mob boss and they kind of hit it off.

[26:44] He seems to agree to her negotiations.

[26:45] She's at that time in her life when she's hitting that hormonal burst, right?

[26:49] Yeah.

[26:50] That turns older women into sexual predators.

[26:52] Yeah.

[26:53] Her libido is at max.

[26:54] Ellen's getting into Harry Knowles territory.

[26:57] I hope not.

[26:58] I really hope not.

[27:00] I like that Toni Collette here, like honestly, is not afraid to play it a little dumb too.

[27:08] She is so into like the idea of this like vacation in her own world and like whatnot

[27:13] and she is just kind of dumb.

[27:16] There are times when she is so almost deliberately obtuse about the danger of the situation she's

[27:21] in and what it is called for that sometimes I found it funny and other times I was like,

[27:25] okay, at this point, a normal human being would know that this is like a dangerous situation.

[27:29] You can't just stop.

[27:30] You can't just keep talking about how much you want to have sex with this one guy.

[27:34] I get it, but I love the obliviousness in a weird way.

[27:38] I mean, maybe it's very American about her, you know?

[27:40] Yeah.

[27:41] So they go off to a hotel room to hook up.

[27:42] They're making out.

[27:44] Things are looking good for her.

[27:46] Her little mission statement.

[27:47] Looks like she's maybe going to have sex for the first time in three years.

[27:50] In three years.

[27:51] He insists.

[27:52] She ate and she's going to fuck.

[27:53] And I think she I'm assuming she'll pray for a bathroom that she doesn't eat too loudly

[27:58] or something in order.

[28:00] She prayed that he wouldn't he wouldn't hear her fart while she was in the bathroom.

[28:03] So which is a joke that they make later.

[28:06] That's true.

[28:07] Later, I laughed.

[28:08] Yeah.

[28:09] He says that he.

[28:10] He attempts to poison her with some poisoned limoncello and with poison that he snuck up

[28:20] his butthole, which is hilarious because it's like you probably didn't have to hide

[28:24] up there.

[28:25] I know he got no but like very small and also he goes through such an elaborate set of series

[28:30] of facial expressions when he was removing that vial of poison when he pulls it out clean

[28:34] as a whistle.

[28:36] It is shiny and glossy.

[28:37] Not in my.

[28:38] I would assume if you pulled out your butt, it would be at least a little dirty.

[28:42] He would assume like you've never done it.

[28:44] But what I'll probably say is he's probably making use of a tushy.

[28:48] One of our sponsors.

[28:49] This episode.

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[28:51] It's a great product.

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[28:53] I mean, the lower part of the colon stays pretty clean in between bowel movements.

[28:57] This is this is this could be done.

[28:59] Yeah.

[29:00] So, yeah.

[29:01] So, of course, a duty detective.

[29:04] Yeah.

[29:05] Yeah.

[29:06] He gets distracted.

[29:07] And for duty, I only poop on people who also poop on other people.

[29:13] Yeah.

[29:14] Yeah.

[29:15] Yeah.

[29:16] That's yeah.

[29:17] That's Dexter's MO.

[29:19] So, of course, the Limoncello's get switched around.

[29:22] Carlos reveals his hand only to to get poisoned and die.

[29:28] Her guards kill the other guards.

[29:30] They clean up the mess.

[29:32] Fabrizio shows up, chops off Don Carlos hand, and they send the severed hand to the Romanos

[29:39] as a message.

[29:40] What do you think they do with that hand afterwards?

[29:43] They just throw it out.

[29:44] Do they bury it?

[29:45] Give a little funeral.

[29:46] What do they do?

[29:47] You know, they do a little funeral or they turn it into some kind of like they add it

[29:50] to like what, like a reliquary or something that they carry into battle.

[29:54] They could shellac it and use it as like a thing.

[29:57] What?

[29:58] Or they could get a.

[30:00] made out of it, the way you can get your placenta made into jewelry, or maybe they eat it, maybe

[30:07] it's really good for you.

[30:08] Like the placenta, a lot of nutrients in the hand.

[30:09] Yeah.

[30:10] Exactly.

[30:11] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[30:12] Okay.

[30:13] So I imagine they put it in a tiny little coffin and there's a little grave that they

[30:17] give it, you know.

[30:18] Yeah, it's a little box that has five little fingers.

[30:21] Yeah, it's like a wooden glove, yeah.

[30:24] Yeah, it's a little wooden glove with a little wooden lid.

[30:26] Oh, it's like one of those shoes you wear that's like just your foot.

[30:31] Yes, and they make people look like they're walking on a gorilla feet, yes, yeah.

[30:34] And it's got a lot of makeup on to make it look like it's still alive.

[30:38] They're like, oh, it just looks like the hand is sleeping.

[30:41] Yeah.

[30:42] Yeah, yeah.

[30:43] And the grandkids are like, no, no, I don't want to look at the dead hand.

[30:47] They're like, no, it looks okay, don't worry about it.

[30:49] It's okay, it's okay.

[30:51] Okay, so back at the villa, Toni Collette, Kristen gets a business lesson into all the

[30:57] various illegal dealings of her crime family.

[31:00] She is put off by this.

[31:03] And then she insists it's time for her to go on a date with Lorenzo, which she does

[31:07] at his home with his aunt there.

[31:10] And his aunt makes a big, big pasta meal and keeps feeding Aldo and Dante, her guards.

[31:17] Dante is loving it.

[31:18] Violently forcing them to eat more.

[31:19] Oh, it's great.

[31:21] To me, this is comedy.

[31:23] One guy loves the pasta.

[31:24] The other guy, it's too much pasta.

[31:28] Comedy and tragedy right there in one scene.

[31:30] The date goes really well, but she gets notified.

[31:34] She has a Zoom meeting from her day job.

[31:36] So she has to run out before making out with this hot guy.

[31:40] We've all been there, folks, right?

[31:43] Yeah.

[31:44] Tell me about it.

[31:46] I mean, I guess you can.

[31:47] It's a podcast.

[31:48] We can talk about that stuff.

[31:49] But it's not really a relationship.

[31:51] Yeah.

[31:52] Okay.

[31:53] So she sends away her guards.

[31:54] She has to do this Zoom meeting.

[31:55] It's no big deal.

[31:57] And one of them, I think Dante, has to take care of his sick mom.

[32:02] Of course, while she's setting up for this Zoom meeting.

[32:03] Who can't afford her medication.

[32:04] Yes, who will pay off later.

[32:05] Can't afford her medication.

[32:06] Yeah.

[32:07] And, I mean, it makes these characters more relatable to me, a person living in the modern

[32:12] world where medication is too expensive.

[32:13] Who's not a mafia mama.

[32:14] That we have the power.

[32:15] That we know of.

[32:16] That's true.

[32:17] And it's very possible that Stuart is a mafia mama.

[32:20] Maybe your grandfather just hasn't died yet.

[32:22] Oh, yeah.

[32:23] Just waiting for your grandfather.

[32:25] Yeah.

[32:26] While she is setting up the Zoom, a assassin that the Romano sent shows up.

[32:32] And he attacks her while she is muted and on the Zoom call.

[32:37] And her boss and coworkers are not paying attention to her at all.

[32:41] So there's a little bit of comedy about them talking about how cool these jet skis are

[32:45] while she is fighting for her life.

[32:47] And objectifying the women in the photographs online that they are putting together for

[32:54] this pitch.

[32:55] Yeah.

[32:56] The stock photos.

[32:57] The stock photos.

[32:58] I could not remember the phrase stock photo.

[32:59] Yeah.

[33:00] At first, I was like, this is a little on the nose with like how absurdly sexist it was.

[33:05] Although, you know, more fool me for expecting any subtlety from mafia mama.

[33:08] Called mafia mama.

[33:09] Yeah.

[33:10] But as it went on and like everything was just putting someone else on a jet ski.

[33:15] I was like, OK, I like this stuff.

[33:18] And the stuff they're saying is pretty over the, you know, it's so over the top that the

[33:22] attack by the assassin gets, I guess, a little rapey in a way that I don't like.

[33:28] I did not.

[33:29] It felt like it was a drop of arsenic in the middle of what could have been otherwise a

[33:31] fun scene of attempted murder.

[33:34] There's a threat of sexual violence, which she responds by taking off her heel and stabbing

[33:39] him in the groin and eye repeatedly.

[33:43] And it's pretty gross.

[33:46] While repeating what she said in the self-defense scene, some would say paying off that scene.

[33:50] Yeah.

[33:51] In a very legitimate way.

[33:53] I was talking about the taking away the gun part of it.

[33:55] I understand.

[33:56] Anyway.

[33:57] So she murders this guy.

[33:58] Pops his eyeball out.

[33:59] It's very gross.

[34:00] It's nice and gross.

[34:01] It's like on camera.

[34:03] His eyeball just squirts out under the heel of his shoe on camera.

[34:06] Love it.

[34:07] And that's one of the things I like about this movie is like it doesn't seem to care

[34:10] about the normal, normal tonal categories.

[34:13] Yeah.

[34:14] Fair.

[34:15] Yeah.

[34:17] They just want to have fun.

[34:19] They just want to have fun.

[34:20] It's a goof.

[34:21] Because this is a feminist tome.

[34:22] Girls just want to have fun.

[34:23] And that's the movie.

[34:24] In a nutshell.

[34:25] Yeah.

[34:26] I'll get to that later.

[34:27] And you're closing arguments.

[34:31] So she has to-

[34:32] Girls just want to have fun.

[34:36] We've all heard it.

[34:37] Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, especially ladies.

[34:41] Because they know what I'm talking about.

[34:43] Ladies and gentlemen of the jury.

[34:47] All the single ladies put their hands up.

[34:50] I'm no big city, Beyonce, but seems to me, if you like it, you better put a ring on it.

[34:59] I rest my case.

[35:01] You're what makes me want to shoop justice.

[35:05] Can I get some fries with that shake, shake booty?

[35:15] Let's hear it for the boy.

[35:17] Let's not hear it for the boy, ladies and gentlemen.

[35:21] Okay.

[35:22] This has been fun.

[35:24] Let's get back to the movie.

[35:27] Of course, she hops back on the Zoom call having just murdered a guy with her heel.

[35:32] And she is promptly fired by her boss.

[35:36] And she flips them the bird.

[35:37] And she no longer has that day job to worry about.

[35:39] Closing that book of her life forever.

[35:44] And that Mac book of her life, I think, forever.

[35:46] And then she storms out, leaving the dead body on the ground.

[35:49] And she heads right over to Lorenzo's to get her groove back.

[35:53] She's like, break my back, sucka.

[35:57] Any other questions?

[35:59] You can see my confusion at the use of that idiom, I think.

[36:05] Yeah.

[36:06] She doesn't actually say that, Dan, in the film.

[36:08] No.

[36:09] No, no.

[36:10] She says, my back, my back.

[36:13] I can understand what it means from context clues.

[36:17] It was not one I was familiar with.

[36:19] So I'm learning something today.

[36:20] Put it more in your language, Dan.

[36:22] She's telling the driver to put up the partition.

[36:23] Okay.

[36:24] Yeah.

[36:25] Okay.

[36:26] Sure.

[36:28] So she then goes to meet with the Romanos.

[36:30] They have a peace talk.

[36:32] She makes sure everybody's eating gelato.

[36:35] And she achieves peace.

[36:37] That was a very funny joke also, when she insists on the gelato because it has five stars.

[36:43] And she's just trying to eat her, pray fuck.

[36:45] Yeah.

[36:46] Yeah.

[36:47] They're going to go somewhere else.

[36:48] And she says, no, I want to eat at this gelato place.

[36:49] Yeah.

[36:50] And I'm the boss.

[36:51] Yeah.

[36:52] Finally starting to embrace.

[36:53] She's owning her power as a woman.

[36:55] Yeah.

[36:56] As a mama.

[36:58] Yeah.

[36:59] I mean, being a mama at this point is not, is unrelated to her center power, which is

[37:03] the violence inherent in organized crime.

[37:05] But you know.

[37:06] So she, and you guys are right.

[37:07] At this point she has earned respecto from her enemies and her, and her team.

[37:14] She then has.

[37:15] Even from Fabrizio.

[37:16] Yeah.

[37:17] Very briefly.

[37:18] She has a very horny meeting with Fabrizio on her outdoor daybed where he is like getting

[37:24] super close.

[37:26] And at one point he licks her finger and puts one of his, uh, rings on her head rings.

[37:31] Yeah.

[37:32] Uh, I thought it was like a Jaguar or something.

[37:33] Oh, was it Jaguar?

[37:34] Yeah.

[37:35] Cause they're doing like cat sounds.

[37:36] Oh, that's right.

[37:37] That doesn't make it should have been a wolf.

[37:38] That's the, it's the Roman.

[37:39] No, but then they make funny jokes about espresso machines with the noises they're making, like

[37:45] not the verb.

[37:46] Oh, the, the, the, the other thing.

[37:48] But he, in case we forgot the brutality of the previous scene, he mentions that pieces

[37:52] of the assassins test scrotum were found in his eye socket.

[37:55] And I tell that for breezy is just so enamored of, of whatever brutality she, she, uh, uh,

[38:01] inflicted on him.

[38:02] I really laughed at that.

[38:03] How he, he's like, I think they respect you cause it was so, so grotesque or whatever

[38:08] it was.

[38:09] And he's like, uh, and she is obviously shy.

[38:12] And she's also wearing a pretty cool little outfit.

[38:15] It's like lingerie under a sport coat.

[38:16] I love it.

[38:17] Um, and then Bianca shows up and we have another horny meeting.

[38:20] Her outfit is very white queen, which she's wearing right now.

[38:23] Yeah.

[38:24] Yeah.

[38:25] That's probably key.

[38:26] I mean, like Monica Bellucci is crawling all over her, sitting on top of her, like, and,

[38:30] and this is where we learned that Monica Bellucci, we learn a little bit about her backstory.

[38:34] Right.

[38:35] And that she has a fake metal leg.

[38:37] I wonder if that's going to matter later.

[38:40] Um, so after having these conversations, this is when Kristen decides I'm going to be, she

[38:48] something in Bianca's story, uh, gives her an idea and she comes up with a plan to be

[38:54] a good mob boss.

[38:55] Can I tell you what it was in her story specifically that Monica Bellucci, she tells the story

[38:59] about how she says your grandfather was a mob boss, but he also did good things.

[39:02] When I was a kid, I lost my leg in an accident and other kids made fun of me, but he, one

[39:07] day he just showed up with the top of the line prosthetic leg.

[39:10] And since then, I guess it's been updated many times.

[39:13] So she's saying you can do this for people too.

[39:14] That's the power of that.

[39:15] That's the power of the mob dance dance resistance the whole time.

[39:22] She keeps being like, I can't do this because I'm a good person.

[39:25] I'm a good person.

[39:26] And that's when, you know, is telling us that when governments fail us, what we need is

[39:34] local crime Lords, benevolent dictators gathered power themselves through this means.

[39:43] I also want to say Kristen's resistance is a great Lin-Manuel Miranda.

[39:47] So excellent work Allie.

[39:51] So after coming up with this plan, we get a cool little montage that covers the next

[39:55] couple of months.

[39:56] That's going to, that's like her, uh, stealing prescription drugs.

[40:00] And then like giving them away or like selling them at a reasonable price.

[40:04] It's them like improving the winemaking at their vineyard and also her going

[40:09] on a bunch of dates with Lorenzo.

[40:11] Stuart, is it, is it dead or alive?

[40:14] Or is it versus where they, where they are killing people and then sending

[40:17] the money to poor kids in Africa?

[40:19] That's dead or alive too.

[40:21] And at the end of the montage, they sprout a white and black angel wings.

[40:26] Cause that, that was the sequence that I was, I was, this was reminiscent of to

[40:30] me because it's like, we're criminals for good.

[40:33] We're doing good.

[40:34] Yeah.

[40:34] We're good criminals.

[40:35] Yeah.

[40:36] Except it doesn't, isn't filled with stock footage of children playing.

[40:41] Okay.

[40:42] Uh, okay.

[40:43] But the thing is, is that this happiness can't last forever.

[40:47] Paul shows up in Italy.

[40:50] Thatcher.

[40:51] Oh, he interrupts a lovely date and he causes quite a bit of friction with Lorenzo.

[40:57] Who not the kind of friction Kristen wanted with Lorenzo.

[40:59] No, Chris, Kristen wants to, uh, Paul, uh, Lorenzo wants Kristen to open up.

[41:04] He wants to go to her home.

[41:05] He wants to learn more about her.

[41:07] Um, and he's, he's got some trust issues stemming from his ex-wife

[41:11] that is made up we'll find out later, but he claims to have trust issues.

[41:16] Um, not see that coming.

[41:18] Well, they had done a background check, so they didn't see it coming either.

[41:21] Um, yeah, so she's not coming, but not in the way that we're talking about.

[41:26] It's not come roping.

[41:27] Uh, uh, and, and this is right after Lorenzo tells Kristen that he loves her.

[41:31] Right.

[41:31] He loves her.

[41:32] Yeah.

[41:32] Um, so she stands up to Paul.

[41:34] Truly the moon has hit his eye like a big pizza pie when it comes to Kristen.

[41:39] Uh, she stands up to Paul and is like, you got to pay your own way back to LA

[41:44] and he leaves and we're like, that's probably the last we're ever going to

[41:46] see of him.

[41:47] That's not going to be the case.

[41:48] Um, and then she, she takes Bianca's side and she explains her plan.

[41:52] Now that everything's going so good, she's going to walk away.

[41:55] She's going to give it all up for a man.

[41:58] Record scratch.

[41:59] What?

[42:01] I mean, if the thing that she was giving up, wasn't a life of crime, I would, I

[42:05] would be like, what, but she should give it up.

[42:07] It's not a thing that can only lead to trouble in the end.

[42:11] Mafia films and TV shows have always taught me that being a mobster is only

[42:18] good.

[42:18] There are no downsides.

[42:19] Yeah.

[42:20] Tony Soprano.

[42:21] Only good things.

[42:23] Christopher Maltasanti.

[42:24] Only good things happen.

[42:25] Michael Corleone.

[42:26] Just a life without a life of pleasure without any anxiety or stress.

[42:30] Yeah.

[42:30] Good fellas, man.

[42:32] That, that looked super fun.

[42:34] Running away from helicopters.

[42:36] Yeah.

[42:36] It does seem that by like, towards the end of the movie, like, like she is, has

[42:42] pivoted mostly into legitimate, uh, wine selling.

[42:46] Although I do feel like, I don't know.

[42:48] I'm not, I'm not a mafia person, but I feel like it would be difficult to divest

[42:52] yourself completely from that life.

[42:55] That's really the, it feels like you either make a clean break and run away or

[42:59] you are always entangled with it.

[43:00] I thought the saying was, uh, when I'm out, they just keep letting me stay out.

[43:06] They respect my boundaries.

[43:08] Just when I thought I was out.

[43:10] I was good night, folks.

[43:12] Then he sweeps up the spotlight and then puts it into his cab.

[43:16] The end question mark.

[43:18] And then it says, no, it is the.

[43:24] Okay.

[43:24] So she sits down with his hand, reaches in and erases the question mark.

[43:28] Yeah.

[43:29] Puts an exclamation at like, I think like a coffee shop or a restaurant or

[43:33] something, she sits down with all the other bosses.

[43:35] Uh, she is going to break the news that she's walking away.

[43:39] She gives them all, um, muffins that she baked.

[43:41] Goodbye muffins.

[43:42] Yeah.

[43:43] The, the, the meeting gets pretty heated and then it gets, well, they're mad at

[43:49] her, they're mad at her because that her, her good, good stuff is, is cutting

[43:53] into their business.

[43:55] Yeah.

[43:56] Um, and then it's not like, they're like, Kristen, no, don't go.

[44:00] We love you.

[44:00] That's not the, that's not the tone.

[44:02] So it gets heated, uh, but before the bullets start flying, it gets

[44:06] raided by the police led by gasp.

[44:09] Lorenzo is a cop and his aunt, who's also a cop, which means

[44:14] where they living together.

[44:15] Are they also roommates?

[44:16] Like what?

[44:19] Is she even his aunt?

[44:21] Maybe not.

[44:22] Maybe they're a boyfriend, girlfriend.

[44:23] I mean, probably not.

[44:24] It seems unethical for your aunt to be your boss.

[44:26] If you're in the police, I mean, well, let's say you're in the police.

[44:29] You don't have to be any member of the police.

[44:32] You, uh, maybe one of the other guys in the police.

[44:35] I don't know their names.

[44:36] You're Stuart Copeland.

[44:38] Sure.

[44:38] You're Stuart Copeland.

[44:39] I assume, uh, son of Aaron Copeland and you, and you're like, oh, my father,

[44:44] Douglas, my aunt's going to take over the band and everyone's like, that doesn't

[44:48] seem right that you would have an extra in with it, with the boss.

[44:50] I don't know.

[44:51] I feel like if it were.

[44:53] His uncle, you might be singing a different tune.

[44:56] That tune I would be Roxanne because it's the police and they'd be like,

[45:02] well, every move she makes, I'll be watching your aunt.

[45:06] I'll be watching you.

[45:09] I'll be watching.

[45:09] You're in town.

[45:10] That's what I meant to say.

[45:11] The, the, for the, what off Broadway show did it ever go went to

[45:14] Broadway at some point, right?

[45:16] From what, 25 years ago,

[45:21] listeners at home, listeners at home.

[45:22] Look up when you're in town, ran.

[45:24] And if it was Broadway or off Broadway, send me the information at

[45:29] yell it out to the heavens and God will get it to me.

[45:32] Yeah.

[45:33] Go tell it to the Marines.

[45:35] Yeah.

[45:36] Tell it on the mountain.

[45:38] Send in the cloud.

[45:43] Don't look in the basement.

[45:45] Don't look back either.

[45:46] And don't look now.

[45:48] Don't speak.

[45:49] Never let me go.

[45:50] Don't stand so close to me.

[45:54] Uh, okay.

[45:55] So we also learned that Lorenzo isn't Lorenzo.

[45:58] He's Rudy.

[45:59] Uh, not the footballs.

[46:01] A football guy.

[46:01] No, not at all.

[46:02] He's not, not Rudy Huxtable.

[46:04] No, not either of those Rudy's.

[46:06] And he has a grudge against the Balbono crime family because his family was

[46:10] killed while he was playing soccer and he missed a goal.

[46:14] Good joke.

[46:14] That's a good joke.

[46:15] Everybody.

[46:16] Uh, Christian gets arrested along with everybody else that didn't get killed.

[46:20] Uh, the head of the Romano family gets his fingers blown off and one

[46:23] of the fingers lands in her hair.

[46:25] That's pretty funny.

[46:26] Um, she is, they start playing the Aerosmith song while they're

[46:31] staring into each other's eyes.

[46:33] Yeah.

[46:34] The song from Armageddon.

[46:35] Armageddon.

[46:35] One of, one of many little musical Easter eggs.

[46:41] Okay.

[46:44] She's a whisked away to trial magical.

[46:47] It would be if you cracked open an egg and music started playing.

[46:50] Oh, that would be very magical.

[46:52] Yeah.

[46:53] It's like something out of a, uh, something out of like a, I don't know,

[46:57] like a, like a Tim Burton film, you know, something like, although in life,

[47:05] she has a head, that's a giant egg with a, with a little hat on it.

[47:07] I was on Jordan.

[47:08] Just to go and we're talking about anyone who missed my recent appearance

[47:13] on Jordan, Jesse go, where we talked about Tim Burton's fetish for huge

[47:16] heads with little hats on and we did impressions of Tim Burton, where he

[47:20] is talking to hell about how he wants her to put a little hat on her head.

[47:23] Yeah.

[47:25] Okay.

[47:25] So, uh, her, the time between being arrested and going to trial seems very

[47:31] short, uh, a country known for the efficiency of its public institutions.

[47:36] So she is, uh, she is, uh, walking up the steps to her trial only for her

[47:41] inexperienced lawyer to be shoved out of the way because her friend

[47:44] Jenny has arrived from LA.

[47:46] This Jenny's going to take it from here.

[47:48] This was an interesting move because Jenny is more experienced, but she is

[47:51] not, I think, a fluent Italian.

[47:53] No, she is because I know she speaks multiple languages.

[47:55] Yeah.

[47:56] But when she, when, when, uh, when Kristen called her and she was like,

[48:00] Oh my God, I just killed a mob boss before she picks up the phone.

[48:04] Jenny is speaking in Italian.

[48:06] Oh, wasn't it on the phone?

[48:07] I thought it was something else.

[48:08] Okay.

[48:09] Well, the, most of the trials conducted English.

[48:10] Anyway, they don't leave a lot of loose threads.

[48:13] Okay.

[48:15] Is tight.

[48:16] This is tight.

[48:17] Yeah.

[48:18] It's a perfect, perfectly like perfect sphere.

[48:22] There's no edges or loose ends.

[48:23] I'd be more concerned about whether she was like allowed to practice law in

[48:28] Italy, whether she was familiar with as we saw from book club, anyone can do

[48:33] anything in Italy, there's no, there's no legal jurisdictions over there.

[48:36] Just Bergen can just step in and officiate a wedding.

[48:39] And this lady can just come in and practice law.

[48:41] Yeah.

[48:41] Amanda Knox can just murder her roommate.

[48:44] You can do whatever you want.

[48:47] That's a case that they referenced in the movie.

[48:49] Okay.

[48:50] So the, uh, the trial is brief.

[48:53] Uh, many, there's many character witnesses that say very nice things about

[48:57] Kristen, the judge moved to tears, dismisses the case because she won the

[49:03] trial.

[49:04] She didn't inherit the mob.

[49:05] She inherited herself.

[49:07] Yeah.

[49:08] Uh, you would think the movie's over at this point.

[49:12] Not so fast.

[49:13] Fabrizio makes a play for power.

[49:15] Uh, he shoots Dante.

[49:17] Oh no.

[49:18] I like that guy.

[49:19] Uh, and we think that he has shot and killed Bianca.

[49:21] We learned that in fact, he just shot her in the metal leg and she is okay.

[49:25] He is holding Paul and Dominic hostage.

[49:28] What Dominic, what's he doing in Italy?

[49:30] Uh, that's her son.

[49:31] Of course.

[49:32] Uh, there's a shootout in the winery.

[49:34] Fabrizio gets pushed into a wine press, uh, uh, where his blood mixes with the

[49:41] wine and they sell it as Rose.

[49:43] Yep.

[49:44] The, their family goes more than you'd think.

[49:46] It happens more than you think.

[49:47] How do you think they make Rose?

[49:49] Exactly.

[49:50] I don't think that it would taste very good to have meat in your wine.

[49:57] It's not meat, it's blood.

[49:58] Yeah.

[49:58] Somewhere Dracula.

[50:00] turning the contrast off. Maybe I will eat, maybe I will drink. I just don't, I mean, I don't think,

[50:07] I think that part would turn is what I'm saying. Yeah, I don't, I mean, probably when, if you're

[50:12] aging the wine, certainly the blood will clot at some point. I mean, I guess the vinegar, the acid

[50:19] of the wine would prevent any like, you know, diseases. I know there's, there's, there are more

[50:24] than one comic book where blood was mixed with the printer's ink and it was fine. So maybe it's just

[50:29] that they washed it down with so much wine that it diluted the blood enough that it just adds a

[50:33] little tinge of like iron to the wine, iron and wine. It's a very minerally. Yeah, a lot of

[50:40] tannins. Is that a thing in blood tannins? So she sends, uh, she sends Paul back home.

[50:47] She sends her son Dominic home, but not before he gets a little bit of a godfather moment. Cause

[50:51] one of the running jokes that Kristen has never seen the godfather. Yes. I love that.

[50:56] I love that joke. And everyone in Italy is horrified and angry at her that she's never

[51:00] seen the godfather. So funny. It is kind of funny. The only thing I, it's a funny joke.

[51:03] It's a funny runner. The only thing to me was, I was like, Italy has a, has a, has a amazing,

[51:08] uh, national film heritage. Yeah, but these are mostly mobsters. There's a lot of mob movies

[51:15] from Italy. There's a lot of movies from Italy, but no, it was, but it's a funny running gag.

[51:19] You know, especially because at one point she does make a reference to it and they're like,

[51:23] Oh, you finally watched the godfather. She's like, I read the summary on Wikipedia. Good joke.

[51:27] Those are good jokes, folks. Uh, so we get a little godfather moment and then she gets her

[51:33] own mafia mama moment. Enjoying what? Like some gelato at the very end, feeding her. They're

[51:39] just putting it in her mouth for hell. Yeah, that's what she, cause she's the mafia mama.

[51:42] And that is boom, boom, boom. That's the end of the movie. We get a little theme song,

[51:48] dance, dance, and I'm dancing. Everybody's dancing. That was mafia mama folks. I was

[51:52] dancing to the mafia mama. We'll return in mafia mama to mafia mama versus the Yakuza.

[51:58] I kind of wanted, you know, I mean, I know that part of the thing is her pivoting away from the

[52:04] unsavory aspects of the mafia, but I kind of did want like a post credit and something of like,

[52:11] or like saving some goons to scare her old boss or something like, just like a little bit of a,

[52:16] yes, her finger. I mean, she sent the finger in the rose.

[52:21] That was to the rival family. You mean her boss in America at the,

[52:27] as long as we're doing all this fantasy wish fulfillment, like, and the last boom, take that

[52:32] right, Dan, he's in his bed and he's like, huh, what? And he, his foot hits something and it's

[52:36] the head of his son from who he works with at the company. Sure. Yeah. No, it should have been.

[52:43] No, the son's alive though. The son's just like, dad, I had a bad dream ever since those mafia

[52:46] goons came by. He's like, oh, you can sleep in the bed with me. That's all right. Sure. No,

[52:50] what it should be is he kicks something and his foot's wet and he pulls the sheet aside and it's

[52:54] like a chopped in half jet ski. And he's like, no, that's a great ending. Yeah. Okay. So that

[53:03] was mafia mama, everybody. You're probably wondering, did this movie live up to Stewart's

[53:08] high expectations? The answer is absolutely two thumbs up. Loving the mafia mama. Uh,

[53:14] that's your final judgment. Final judgment. This is a movie I liked. Yeah. Uh, for anyone

[53:20] who inexplicably is just joining us, um, we don't even know how that would be possible.

[53:25] Final, final judgments. 56 minutes. It's a bad, bad movie or movie. Kind of like I just meant this

[53:33] episode. If you haven't, this is where we like give our, give our, uh, yeah. So I said the movie,

[53:39] I kind of like the title final judgments is kind of self-explanatory about what the segment is.

[53:43] Yeah, sure. Sure. Uh, sometimes you're really hard on Dan. Thank you. Wow. Thank you for that

[53:49] performance. Speaking for the listeners. Um, uh, kind of like he'll just liked it. Um,

[53:59] and I would say, I mean, I might stick with kind of likes because it is,

[54:05] it has issues. Like it's not as funny as I would like it to be necessarily. And even though I

[54:11] respect that its tone goes for it, sometimes it, it doesn't seem to have full control of itself,

[54:19] but I still gotta admit that I really enjoyed it and laughed a lot while watching it. So that's,

[54:25] that's my response. You guys, me? Yeah. How you go? I'll be the buzzkill. Loved it. Loved it.

[54:32] Loved it. I wish I had written it. I couldn't stop thinking about how fun it must've been to

[54:38] make this movie. Cause these are all like the director was the woman who directed 13. Oh,

[54:43] right. It's a big change. And the first twilight and Tony Collette, she obviously has been in

[54:50] numerous, uh, renowned films, but they were all like, you know what? Like we're girls and we want

[54:56] to make a fucking stupid movie and they did. And it was beautiful and I loved it. No, I thought it

[55:02] was great. Uh, I really did. And I thank you guys for letting me watch it with you. Yeah. I'm just

[55:09] going to say at the end, cause I don't want to be too much of a school. I don't like it that much,

[55:12] but I think it's more, more because it felt like there were a lot of opportunities for humor.

[55:19] That were not fully taken. It was like, I feel like it has one strike against it in that it's

[55:24] a comedy that Elliot did not write and that's the issue. No, I just, I want it to be funnier.

[55:32] You know, like I was like, Oh, there's a lot of like, it feels like this movie is like always

[55:35] getting up to the edge of being really funny for me. And then it wasn't going quite there,

[55:39] but yeah, you know, but there's, it's of all the movies we've watched maybe this year,

[55:44] I think this is, this is in the top three, certainly for the flop house. I mean, not all

[55:50] the movies we've watched in our personal lives. Yeah. Okay. So that was mafia mama. What do we do

[55:55] next year, Dan? Um, let's do some ads. Why not? You know what? Let's do them. Okay. Let's make

[56:04] Hallie sit through them. Sure. We'll try and make them fast, especially for Hallie. Hey,

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[1:00:21] Our next episode is December 2nd,

[1:00:23] one day before my birthday.

[1:00:25] You better show up with a present.

[1:00:27] And we're gonna be watching and talking about,

[1:00:29] that's right, Ballistic X vs. Sefer.

[1:00:31] The movie that until I watch it,

[1:00:33] I refuse to believe is a real movie that exists.

[1:00:36] Just sounds like a collection of words I don't understand.

[1:00:38] Yeah.

[1:00:39] We may turn out to be maybe like the 20th

[1:00:41] through 22nd people who have ever seen this movie.

[1:00:44] It'll be exciting.

[1:00:45] So that's December 2nd, a Saturday,

[1:00:47] the first Saturday of the month,

[1:00:48] at 9 p.m. Eastern, 6 p.m. Pacific.

[1:00:50] Or if you can't make it for the live broadcast

[1:00:52] on Saturday, December 2nd at 9 p.m.,

[1:00:54] your season pass or your ticket

[1:00:56] gets you access to the recording

[1:00:57] pretty much the next morning or later that night.

[1:01:00] But definitely by the next morning.

[1:01:02] That's theflophouse.simpletics.com

[1:01:05] for tickets or season passes to Flop TV.

[1:01:07] But even more exciting than that, if it's even possible.

[1:01:10] Hey, if you like watching The Flophouse on your computer,

[1:01:13] would you like to watch us in person,

[1:01:15] in a room with you? Sure.

[1:01:17] Sharing the same space?

[1:01:18] Well, guess what?

[1:01:19] If you live in one of a few places on the West Coast,

[1:01:22] you'll get that chance in January.

[1:01:24] That's right, in January 2024,

[1:01:26] The Flophouse is going on tours, the 2024 tour.

[1:01:29] We're calling it Eras.

[1:01:31] And we go to a couple of different cities on the West Coast.

[1:01:34] Sorry, East Coast.

[1:01:36] We can announce two of those dates right now

[1:01:37] on January 25th of next year.

[1:01:40] We're gonna be at the Aladdin Theater in Portland, Oregon.

[1:01:43] That's right, Portland, Oregon, the City of Roses.

[1:01:45] We'll be there doing The Flophouse.

[1:01:48] That's at 8 p.m. on January 25th.

[1:01:50] For tickets, go to aladdin-theater.com.

[1:01:53] That's not the word dash, just the pronunciation.

[1:01:56] This is a punctuation, aladdin-theater.com.

[1:01:58] And then a few days later, January 28th at 7 p.m.,

[1:02:01] we'll be at the Regent Theater in Los Angeles.

[1:02:03] If you missed our Vidyut's Los Angeles show, get ready.

[1:02:06] We're gonna be in Los Angeles again doing a different show,

[1:02:09] not the same shows.

[1:02:10] So that's gonna be-

[1:02:11] And this will be downtown

[1:02:11] where there's like parking garages and stuff.

[1:02:14] Yes, it'll be easier to park.

[1:02:16] It's a cooler place to be.

[1:02:18] It does smell bad, but you know, it's, wait, what?

[1:02:22] I said, I don't know if it's a cooler place to be.

[1:02:24] It's not a cooler place to be, to be honest.

[1:02:24] Yeah, Vidyut's is pretty cool.

[1:02:26] Vidyut's is pretty cool, but the Regent is fine too.

[1:02:27] Then go to regentdtla.com for tickets.

[1:02:30] That's January 28th at the Regent Theater.

[1:02:32] We haven't picked our movies yet.

[1:02:33] We do have a surprise, a special thing

[1:02:37] that we might be able to announce sometime in the future

[1:02:40] for one of those shows.

[1:02:41] But we're gonna pick those movies soon

[1:02:44] and let you know what they are.

[1:02:46] Let me say, yeah, there's gonna be eventually four dates

[1:02:50] in this Flophouse West Coast tour.

[1:02:52] We can only announce two right now,

[1:02:54] but we wanted to give people

[1:02:56] the earliest possible chance for those two.

[1:02:58] Once there's all four, you know,

[1:03:00] I'm gonna construct an easy place

[1:03:02] where you can look at all that stuff together.

[1:03:04] Big promises coming from Dan McCoy.

[1:03:06] I do these things, I just sometimes forget them.

[1:03:09] That's the problem.

[1:03:10] Hey, Stuart, leave Dan alone.

[1:03:13] Yes, mommy, mama.

[1:03:15] You mess with Dan, you mess with me.

[1:03:17] That's what Hallie says.

[1:03:18] Yeah, go on, kid.

[1:03:20] You come after Dan, you come after me.

[1:03:23] That's what it is, come after.

[1:03:24] Okay, I also, guys, step aside for a moment.

[1:03:27] I have some non-Flophouse news that I wanted to share

[1:03:31] that I'm gonna be cheating on the Flophouse boys next year

[1:03:35] doing another podcast that I'm gonna mention real quick.

[1:03:37] I didn't want you to find out this way,

[1:03:39] but it is the way I'm telling you.

[1:03:41] I am going to be teaming up next year

[1:03:42] for a podcast with 99% Invisible's own Roman Mars.

[1:03:45] We're gonna do a monthly podcast

[1:03:46] celebrating the 50th anniversary of one of my favorite books,

[1:03:50] probably my favorite book of all time,

[1:03:51] The Power Broker by Robert Caro.

[1:03:52] He's a mortal masterpiece of political biography

[1:03:54] and municipal apocalypse.

[1:03:56] We're gonna be walking through the book all year.

[1:03:59] Get yourself a copy, read along with us.

[1:04:01] It's gonna be really fun.

[1:04:02] We're gonna have celebrity interviews, things like that.

[1:04:03] There should be a kind of introductory episode

[1:04:06] coming out in December,

[1:04:07] and then it's gonna be all through 2024

[1:04:10] for the 50th anniversary.

[1:04:11] I don't have the title of that podcast yet,

[1:04:13] but when we do have it, I'll give it to you.

[1:04:16] So that's a lot of me promising titles.

[1:04:17] Shower Broker.

[1:04:19] You could do it in the shower.

[1:04:21] Okay, yeah, maybe I'll podcast in the shower.

[1:04:23] It'll probably ruin my-

[1:04:24] I saw a screenshot of you and Roman

[1:04:26] talking to Conan O'Brien.

[1:04:28] Yep.

[1:04:29] That was on the internet. Did you mention me?

[1:04:29] Did I mention what?

[1:04:30] I was a big fan of Conan O'Brien growing up.

[1:04:32] I almost did, to be honest, but I didn't.

[1:04:35] Instead, I mentioned Matt O'Brien,

[1:04:37] someone that we both know in common.

[1:04:39] Yeah.

[1:04:40] Did you know he's working at The Daily Show again?

[1:04:42] Oh, I didn't know that.

[1:04:42] I'll have to get in touch with him.

[1:04:43] So a longtime Conan writer

[1:04:45] and former Daily Show coworker of mine, Matt O'Brien.

[1:04:49] But we interviewed Conan O'Brien.

[1:04:50] We interview celebrities and stuff like that.

[1:04:51] But my name was on the tip of his tongue.

[1:04:53] Mm-hmm.

[1:04:54] And one last thing, I'll remind people

[1:04:56] that my Disney Villains Hades comics miniseries

[1:04:59] is out in stores now from Dynamite Comics.

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[1:06:16] I hate this little hippo.

[1:06:19] Well, then let us move on to letters from listeners like you

[1:06:24] who are listening to the Flophouse podcast right now.

[1:06:28] Hi, I'm talking to you.

[1:06:30] It's me, Dan McCoy, talking directly to you, the listener.

[1:06:32] Hi there.

[1:06:33] No, not you.

[1:06:35] You in the red.

[1:06:37] Yeah.

[1:06:39] How you doing?

[1:06:40] Anyway, if you're one of the listeners...

[1:06:41] Dan, I'm so proud of the way

[1:06:43] that you have learned how to waste time.

[1:06:44] Thank you.

[1:06:46] Thank you, Elliot.

[1:06:47] That's how you talk to your friends.

[1:06:49] Yes, it makes me very proud.

[1:06:51] Yeah.

[1:06:53] Anyway, letters from listeners.

[1:06:54] The first one is from Luke, last name withheld,

[1:06:57] who did the over-the-top slash over-the-flop art

[1:07:01] that we used for most recent Flophouse TV show.

[1:07:04] If you were in a waiting room for the last episode of Flop TV,

[1:07:08] you saw it. It was great.

[1:07:09] It was a great mock-up poster.

[1:07:11] My favorite part of it was how he changed the slogan.

[1:07:14] The tagline over the top was like,

[1:07:15] some fight for, what was it?

[1:07:16] Some fight for, some fight for victory, some for money.

[1:07:21] He's fighting for his son's money.

[1:07:24] Something like that.

[1:07:25] That's great.

[1:07:27] Yeah, so this is from Luke, last name withheld,

[1:07:31] over-the-flop.

[1:07:33] Hey there.

[1:07:34] Long time, first time, et cetera.

[1:07:36] I've listened to you chuckleheads for a while,

[1:07:38] but only recently subscribed to your YouTube channel.

[1:07:41] Today, the algorithm decided that since I like your channel,

[1:07:44] I might also like Wood Talk, which as far as I can tell,

[1:07:49] only has in common with your show

[1:07:50] that it is three guys with cartoon avatars

[1:07:53] talking about something.

[1:07:55] I guess I should ask a related question.

[1:07:57] So what's your favorite use of wood in a movie?

[1:08:00] You have to answer

[1:08:01] because I finally joined MaxFun this week.

[1:08:03] You owe me, dammit.

[1:08:04] Luke, last name withheld.

[1:08:06] We do owe him.

[1:08:07] Yeah.

[1:08:09] Use of wood in a movie.

[1:08:12] I've got an answer for that.

[1:08:13] I think, so this, I don't know if it's really my favorite,

[1:08:16] but it's the first one that comes to mind is

[1:08:17] there's a moment in the movie Horse Feathers,

[1:08:19] the Marx Brothers movie,

[1:08:20] where Harpo and Chico have been tied up

[1:08:22] and kidnapped in a room and they get out by each,

[1:08:25] they each have a saw in their hands

[1:08:27] and they saw through the wooden floor

[1:08:28] in a circle around themselves

[1:08:31] so that they then fall through the floor,

[1:08:32] through the ceiling of the room below them

[1:08:34] and are immediately captured again.

[1:08:36] And I just think it's very funny the way that they're,

[1:08:38] in another comedy movie,

[1:08:40] the characters would do this unknowingly,

[1:08:42] like ignorantly,

[1:08:43] unknowing that they are about to fall down.

[1:08:45] But it is clear from the looks on their faces

[1:08:47] that Chico and Harpo are very well aware

[1:08:48] that they are about to fall

[1:08:49] through the ceiling of the room below them

[1:08:51] and they're doing it just for the sheer insanity

[1:08:54] of wanting to escape that way.

[1:08:56] Yeah.

[1:08:57] You know what I just thought of that I'll throw in here?

[1:09:01] The film Walking Tall,

[1:09:02] the Hicksploitation movie with Joe Don Baker.

[1:09:06] Yeah, he's a big stick in that, yeah.

[1:09:07] Yeah, he just carries around a plank

[1:09:10] and that's how he fights crime.

[1:09:12] With a big piece of wood.

[1:09:14] Also, let's not forget the movie Ed Wood.

[1:09:16] Yeah.

[1:09:17] I haven't seen it, is it about wood?

[1:09:19] Yeah, what about the movie Mr. Woodcock?

[1:09:23] Is that about wood?

[1:09:25] Yeah, I think so.

[1:09:26] About a woodcock.

[1:09:27] I heard there was a movie where Holly would if she could,

[1:09:29] so is that something with wood?

[1:09:31] Sounds great.

[1:09:32] Yeah, like Place Beyond the Pines,

[1:09:35] do we see the pines in that?

[1:09:37] Very briefly, because we're really going

[1:09:39] to the place beyond them.

[1:09:40] Yeah, that makes sense.

[1:09:42] I'm having a good about you.

[1:09:43] But there could be no place beyond the pines

[1:09:45] if there weren't pines to begin with.

[1:09:48] Thank you, it helps center us.

[1:09:49] I'm gonna, with Luke's forbearance hopefully,

[1:09:52] I'm gonna expand the question to any type

[1:09:54] of construction or building material

[1:09:56] that you've seen in a movie.

[1:09:57] This was tough.

[1:09:58] I mean, I felt like the obvious one.

[1:10:00] was the stake in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, but then I was trying to remember, wasn't

[1:10:05] there a thing in Father of the Bride where he like builds a gazebo for her, or did I

[1:10:10] make that up?

[1:10:11] I think so.

[1:10:12] No, I think they do.

[1:10:13] That's like one of his big things, he wants to finish this gazebo.

[1:10:17] Or I was thinking about in My Girl, when there's a beehive in a tree, trees are made of wood,

[1:10:27] fair, I'll allow it.

[1:10:29] Yeah, or in Midsommar where they, spoiler alert, set a bunch of wood on fire.

[1:10:35] In Wicker Man they do the same thing, they also set a bunch of, I guess it's wicker.

[1:10:39] Guys, I love a gazebo.

[1:10:41] Whoa, I thought there was a new person on the podcast, you've like gone to crazy places.

[1:10:45] You love a gazebo, Dan, you should try and get on an episode of Catfish, because they

[1:10:49] always meet people in gazebos in public parks.

[1:10:53] You know, you want to be outdoors, but you also want a roof.

[1:10:57] A gazebo is one of your top ways.

[1:10:58] Oh, top way, yeah, absolutely.

[1:10:59] Also, like, Dan's never been on an episode of Catfish.

[1:11:03] Hallie, talk to yourself about being mean to Dan.

[1:11:07] Yeah, I was going to say, I feel like of the three of us, Dan, do you think you're the

[1:11:14] most likely to get catfished, or is it me, because like, I'm such an optimistic romantic,

[1:11:19] I could always get suckered.

[1:11:20] Yeah, I mean, well, we're obviously removing ourselves from our current relationship.

[1:11:26] No, you guys are talking about it.

[1:11:28] In the world of you being married, you're both married.

[1:11:31] Yeah, I think being catfished is risks.

[1:11:35] The risk has gone down, I think.

[1:11:38] Those days are over, I think.

[1:11:39] Yeah, that's what the insurance is.

[1:11:40] Some might call you a catfish out of water, right?

[1:11:43] Oh, and we're back.

[1:11:48] Okay, well, in that case, let's move on to the next letter.

[1:11:53] It's from Chris, last name withheld, who writes,

[1:11:55] Howdy!

[1:11:57] A couple of episodes ago,

[1:11:59] Stuart mentioned he was reading romance novels right now,

[1:12:04] and I'd love his recommendations or thoughts on any compelling ones he or the other floppers have read.

[1:12:09] I primarily read sci-fi and fantasy novels,

[1:12:12] but I've been trying to find something that my wife and I can both listen to

[1:12:15] while we are in the car together.

[1:12:17] She unfortunately does not like podcasts, and music makes me sleepy while driving.

[1:12:21] Thanks, Chris.

[1:12:23] I don't think they should be listening to romance novels together in the car.

[1:12:27] Oh, you think that's going to lead?

[1:12:29] You don't want things to get too sexy when you're in the car.

[1:12:31] It's not safe.

[1:12:33] No, unless you pull over to the side of the road.

[1:12:35] Well, you guys promise me that you'll pull over to the side of the road.

[1:12:38] Yeah.

[1:12:39] Because nobody's saying anything unless you promise.

[1:12:42] That's what the phrase safe sex means, is that you pull over to the side of the road.

[1:12:46] But you keep your seatbelts on.

[1:12:48] Yes, yes.

[1:12:49] It could hit you.

[1:12:50] Yeah.

[1:12:51] Side swipe.

[1:12:52] You might get rear-ended, and not the way that you want.

[1:12:54] You might get rear-ended while you're getting rear-ended.

[1:12:58] I think I implied that play on words.

[1:13:03] Yeah, unless, of course, you're like Charlie Sheen and Christy Swanson

[1:13:06] in the movie The Chase, where they don't have the opportunity to pull over

[1:13:09] because they're being chased like the title of the movie.

[1:13:12] But the erotic tension has gotten so much that they must, of course.

[1:13:18] They can't not do it.

[1:13:19] Or if you're OnlyFans fans have requested that you do it in a Tesla self-driving car.

[1:13:24] That's the other way that people are doing it.

[1:13:26] Yeah, your OnlyFans subs are making that request.

[1:13:29] I don't know.

[1:13:30] I don't think you're allowed to do it in public anymore.

[1:13:32] I think that's one of their restraints.

[1:13:34] But I don't read the fine print.

[1:13:36] Okay, so let's see.

[1:13:39] I love how you tried to play off like you weren't well aware of the OnlyFans restrictions.

[1:13:43] I don't know all the rules.

[1:13:45] The thing is, my love of rules goes way back.

[1:13:47] Whether it's board games, whether it's website documents.

[1:13:50] Yeah, he often says, I just watch porn for the rules.

[1:13:56] Rules are important, guys.

[1:13:57] I don't know.

[1:13:58] I've only just started reading romance novels.

[1:14:01] The most recent one I read had the, I would say, somewhat ridiculous title,

[1:14:06] The Kiss Quotient, about an autistic woman who in order to become more experienced

[1:14:14] starts dating or starts seeing a male escort.

[1:14:17] And, you know, things get a little bit hot and heavy, guys.

[1:14:21] But, you know, it was cute and hot and fun.

[1:14:24] But, yeah, I mean, I'm just starting out.

[1:14:28] So, honestly, I could use your recommendations, please, listeners.

[1:14:31] I have a feeling that a few of our listeners probably could recommend some.

[1:14:35] Or will just tell me to go to that.

[1:14:38] There's like a new romance novel specific bookstore that opened up in Park Slope

[1:14:42] called, what, The Ripped Bodice, I think is the name of it.

[1:14:45] Oh, yeah, I've heard of that store.

[1:14:46] Yeah.

[1:14:47] It's great that bookstores are doing so well that they can be that niche.

[1:14:51] Oftentimes, I think the nicheness helps.

[1:14:54] Because the bookstore has like an identity that people go to it for.

[1:14:57] That's true.

[1:14:58] Like, because there's stores that cater just to comic books, guys.

[1:15:03] Surely not.

[1:15:04] There aren't that many nerds in the world.

[1:15:08] And in addition to comic books, they sell little statues of comic book characters that people buy.

[1:15:13] Yeah, for what reason would one of these things?

[1:15:16] I mean, I don't know.

[1:15:17] I'm still learning.

[1:15:18] I'm guessing so they, when they're reading the comic book, they can look over to their shelf.

[1:15:22] Sure.

[1:15:23] And see like a little physical version.

[1:15:24] I need a three-dimensional representation of this so I can understand how it moves through space.

[1:15:28] And they can say, did you really do this?

[1:15:32] For real?

[1:15:33] Yeah, you hold up the book, you're like, I'm reading about you right now.

[1:15:36] You hold up the figure and you hold it to the page.

[1:15:38] And you're like, yeah, about the same size as the drawing.

[1:15:41] Yeah, make him kiss himself.

[1:15:43] Yeah, sure.

[1:15:45] I guess this fellow, Walt Simonson, did a good job capturing your likeness.

[1:15:50] I had to get a little Thor and a little Thor comic so I could pretend the comic book page was a mirror.

[1:15:55] And Thor is looking at himself in it while he's getting ready in the morning.

[1:15:58] Yeah, of course, there's a problem of infinite regress where I had to get a smaller Thor holding a smaller comic.

[1:16:04] Dan, if you're telling me to read Infinite Regress by David Foster Wallace, then I will not read it.

[1:16:08] I'm sorry.

[1:16:11] So I hope that answered your question.

[1:16:13] And now we're moving on to recommendations.

[1:16:20] Movies to watch.

[1:16:22] Normally, other than Mafia Mama, but in my case, I'm going to recommend an unchallenging double feature

[1:16:32] that Audrey and I stumbled upon.

[1:16:34] Before we watched Mafia Mama, we watched A Haunting in Venice.

[1:16:42] And it was an interesting Italy double feature.

[1:16:52] It's two sides of the same coin.

[1:16:54] A Haunting in Venice is like over-serious to the point of being kind of funny and dark.

[1:17:04] And this is like sun-drenched Mafia Mama, sun-drenched Italy, all wackiness.

[1:17:10] It's so funny, it becomes a tragedy.

[1:17:14] The thing is, I have not liked the other Hercule Poirot, Kenneth Branagh movies.

[1:17:21] And this one I only kind of liked and liked mostly as a double feature with Mafia Mama.

[1:17:26] I think it's kind of a fun...

[1:17:27] Strong recommendation.

[1:17:30] I know for a fact there are other listeners out there that would be like,

[1:17:33] oh yeah, that does sound fun.

[1:17:35] So for those listeners, A Haunting in Venice, it is stronger than the other movies

[1:17:43] by virtue of it doesn't have ugly CGI train or Nile River.

[1:17:51] It is shot in a combination of real locations in Venice, sound stages,

[1:17:55] and with a little digital augmentation for things.

[1:17:59] Real ghosts. They brought real ghosts in.

[1:18:01] They got Armie Hammer to come back, right?

[1:18:03] Well, you can't cast a normal person as a regular ghost these days.

[1:18:07] No, you can't do it.

[1:18:08] Yeah, you'll get canceled.

[1:18:12] I made this comparison on Letterboxd and then I discovered that dozens of other people have,

[1:18:18] but it feels like a really high-toned episode of Scooby-Doo

[1:18:22] in a way that made it a lot more fun and campy than some of the other ones have been.

[1:18:29] Because the Harlem Club Trotters showed up.

[1:18:33] Yeah, Sonny's chair had a song in the middle.

[1:18:35] My recommendation is the double feature of Haunting in Venice and Mafia Mama.

[1:18:40] That's a strong double feature.

[1:18:42] I'm going to recommend a horror movie because we're just getting out of spooky season.

[1:18:47] I'm recommending the latest movie by director Joe Lynch called Suitable Flesh

[1:18:53] starring friend of the podcast Barbara Crampton.

[1:18:57] She is great.

[1:18:58] Barbara Crampton and Heather Graham are both in it.

[1:19:01] And it is a modern take on the Thing at the Doorstep story.

[1:19:07] The whole movie is kind of a love letter to the Stuart Gordon, H.P. Lovecraft movies.

[1:19:14] A Lovecraft letter?

[1:19:15] Mm-hmm.

[1:19:16] Lovecraft services?

[1:19:19] Mm-hmm.

[1:19:20] Yep.

[1:19:21] He was a caterer with Lovecraft services.

[1:19:27] What do we serve?

[1:19:29] It's indescribable, the food that we serve.

[1:19:32] I can't tell you about it.

[1:19:35] It's Cyclopean?

[1:19:36] Is that a way you can describe food?

[1:19:38] I'm going to be over at Lovecrafty for a moment getting a snack.

[1:19:41] I'll be right back.

[1:19:42] He's like, the polyps are flying out the door.

[1:19:45] Okay.

[1:19:46] So it is a horror movie.

[1:19:50] It's a little bit gross and campy and like weirdly horny.

[1:19:55] And it's fun.

[1:19:56] So if you're looking for like a fun kind of great movie.

[1:20:00] like Horror Movie Night, Suitable Flesh is a good time.

[1:20:06] I'm going to recommend a movie that I think has been playing festivals.

[1:20:10] I don't know if it's in theaters yet, but it's a movie called Property,

[1:20:14] written and directed by Daniel Vendera. It's from Brazil.

[1:20:16] It's a movie that I think they made last year,

[1:20:18] but it's been playing different festivals and things.

[1:20:20] And it is a super tense, kind of suspenseful thriller.

[1:20:24] This woman who is the survivor of a kind of kidnapping attempt

[1:20:28] and has been kind of afraid to go outside,

[1:20:33] kind of a shut-in since then, afraid to go outside.

[1:20:35] Her and her husband go to the estate that he inherited.

[1:20:38] Unfortunately, they're arriving on the day that everyone who works on the estate

[1:20:41] is being told, the estate's being sold and you're all going to lose your houses

[1:20:44] and you're all going to leave.

[1:20:45] But first you have to pay back the overseer the money that you owe them.

[1:20:49] And things spiral out of control as they try to take control of the place

[1:20:54] and the wife is trying to defend herself from them.

[1:20:59] And one of the things that's great about it is it's super suspenseful,

[1:21:03] but there's very little of any kind of bad guy characters.

[1:21:08] There are people who are not as nice as other people,

[1:21:10] but everyone kind of has a point of view to what they're doing.

[1:21:13] And you just see these people getting themselves into worse and worse trouble

[1:21:18] because they're all part of this system that has given some people everything

[1:21:21] and some people nothing.

[1:21:23] And I thought it was really good.

[1:21:24] So that's Property.

[1:21:26] Well, I guess I'll recommend the only movie I've seen besides Mafia Mama

[1:21:30] in the last, I don't know, however long.

[1:21:35] Because you're a real-life mama?

[1:21:38] No.

[1:21:39] Recently I was listening to another Maximum Fun podcast, Baby Geniuses,

[1:21:45] and Lisa Hanawalt mentioned how You Can Count on Me is a perfect screenplay.

[1:21:51] And I thought to myself, hey, I wish I could do that.

[1:21:54] I'll take a read.

[1:21:56] So I read it.

[1:21:57] I remember I never actually saw this movie when I was younger,

[1:21:59] but I remember my mom always had the CD for the soundtrack in her car.

[1:22:05] So that's a little piece of my history.

[1:22:08] Anyway, I watched the movie, and it is so good.

[1:22:12] I feel like it's the best thing I've seen by Kenneth Lonergan.

[1:22:18] It's so understated.

[1:22:23] Manchester by the Sea was obviously a real tearjerker, but it's so track.

[1:22:27] Have you seen Margaret?

[1:22:28] No.

[1:22:29] The longer cut of Margaret is great also.

[1:22:32] Really?

[1:22:33] Yeah.

[1:22:34] But it's very hard to get your hands on.

[1:22:36] I've been wanting to see that for a while.

[1:22:38] I think it was on Criterion Channel for a while.

[1:22:41] Oh, really?

[1:22:42] There was some streaming service where they had the longer version of it.

[1:22:44] It may not be up there still,

[1:22:45] but if you can find it, the three-hour cut of Margaret is very good.

[1:22:48] But You Can Count on Me is great.

[1:22:50] Here's a little piece of my personal history.

[1:22:52] When I was at NYU in the dramatic writing program,

[1:22:54] that was the movie that, like, everyone was talking about.

[1:22:57] It was a recent thing.

[1:22:58] Lonergan, I think, was an alum of the program,

[1:23:00] and they were like, this is what you can be capable of,

[1:23:03] and none of us produced anything anywhere near as good as that.

[1:23:06] Yet.

[1:23:07] The other movies they were always telling us to watch were Chinatown and Tootsie.

[1:23:10] I'm like, Tootsie is not very good, but You Can Count on Me is very good.

[1:23:13] Yeah, it was really good.

[1:23:15] Check it out.

[1:23:17] Check it out.

[1:23:18] Four recommendations.

[1:23:20] Yeah.

[1:23:21] Five, if you consider Mafia Mama, which I do.

[1:23:24] Before we sign off, I don't know.

[1:23:31] Hal, is there any place that you want people to find you,

[1:23:33] or are you hiding out?

[1:23:35] Do you want to say your address on the podcast?

[1:23:37] Do you want us to talk to you?

[1:23:38] What's your favorite restaurant?

[1:23:39] Is there anything you want to say before we go?

[1:23:43] Is there a place that you hang out with your children

[1:23:45] that you'd like people to come up and say hello to you?

[1:23:48] Just my home, which is, you know.

[1:23:52] Is there a part of your child that you held onto

[1:23:54] while dipping them in the river sticks,

[1:23:56] which makes them almost completely invulnerable except for one small part?

[1:23:59] Yeah, yeah, people should know.

[1:24:00] People should know that, yeah.

[1:24:02] Especially your enemies.

[1:24:05] I don't know.

[1:24:06] Oh, I got a newsletter, folks.

[1:24:09] Oh, yeah, you got your sub stack.

[1:24:10] Yeah, check out my sub stack.

[1:24:11] Hali has a sub stack newsletter, which is phenomenal.

[1:24:14] It's so well written.

[1:24:15] It's so funny.

[1:24:16] It's so honest and heartbreaking and cool sometimes.

[1:24:20] It's so honest.

[1:24:21] I'm worried about my friends sometimes.

[1:24:23] I'm like, is Hali okay?

[1:24:25] Is that too real for you?

[1:24:27] But at the same time, it's very funny.

[1:24:29] And so what's the name of your sub stack?

[1:24:31] It's called That Hurts My Feelings.

[1:24:33] Not to be confused with You Hurt My Feelings starring Toni Collette.

[1:24:38] Yeah, but it's called That Hurts My Feelings.

[1:24:39] Right.

[1:24:41] As a reader, I love it.

[1:24:42] I'm always excited to see it, and then I feel bad for Hali because I'm like, oh, no.

[1:24:46] She's going through some rough stuff.

[1:24:47] Hey, we're all going – that's the point.

[1:24:49] We're all going through rough stuff, guys.

[1:24:50] I see you.

[1:24:51] You see me.

[1:24:52] Am I a book of saw because I'm spiraling?

[1:24:58] But that is – yeah, you should.

[1:24:59] Beautiful.

[1:25:00] If you haven't checked out Hali's sub stack, you should.

[1:25:02] It's really fantastic.

[1:25:03] Thanks.

[1:25:04] Okay, well, yeah, co-signed.

[1:25:08] And also check out MaximumFun.org for other great podcasts on our network.

[1:25:13] Look up HowlDotty or Lydia Burrell or Alexander Smith.

[1:25:21] You decide what the real name is there.

[1:25:24] He's our producer.

[1:25:25] He does a great job for us.

[1:25:26] He's the best.

[1:25:28] And just thank you for listening.

[1:25:30] For The Flop House, I've been Dan McCoy.

[1:25:32] I'm Stuart Wellington.

[1:25:34] I'm Ellie Kalen.

[1:25:35] I'm Hali Haglund.

[1:25:37] Okay, bye.

[1:25:38] See you in the funny pages.

[1:25:41] I'm so surprised you didn't say ciao.

[1:25:48] What do we got?

[1:25:49] Mafia Mama?

[1:25:50] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1:25:51] Yeah, okay.

[1:25:52] Let's just roll right into it, shall we?

[1:25:56] Sorry.

[1:25:58] All right.

[1:26:01] I'm just making myself up.

[1:26:03] I'm sorry.

[1:26:04] Just have a good time, okay, everybody?

[1:26:05] Yeah, man, I'm having a great time.

[1:26:06] Is that a crime now?

[1:26:07] Yeah, apparently it was in Joe Biden's America.

[1:26:10] Wow.

[1:26:12] Trinchet.

[1:26:13] Okay.

[1:26:14] Thanks, Brandon.

[1:26:16] That's the thing, right?

[1:26:17] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1:26:18] That's what they say.

[1:26:19] Yeah.

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Ep.#409 - Mafia Mamma, with Hallie Haglund

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