Ep.#428 - Rebel Moon Part 2: The Scargiver

[0:00] On this episode, we discuss Rebel Moon, Part 2, The Scar Giver.

[0:06] Now, there are rebels, but they're not technically on a moon,

[0:10] and the giver only gives one scar, but it is Part 2.

[0:14] So, I'm going to give this just one and a half Pinocchios for Tidal Odyssey.

[0:18] Oh.

[0:18] One and a half Pinocchios is the prequel to Nine and a Half Weeks, right?

[0:22] No.

[0:24] You don't want to know what he does with that nose, yeah.

[0:25] Oh, I know exactly what he does with that nose.

[0:27] Saucy stuff.

[0:30] Hey, everyone, and welcome to the Fluff House.

[0:52] I'm Dan McCoy.

[0:53] Hey, it's me, Stuart, the Scar Giver Wellington.

[0:57] And this is Elliot, Part 2, Kalen.

[1:00] Yep.

[1:00] Ouch, ouch, Stuart.

[1:01] Stop giving me scars.

[1:03] I can't help it.

[1:04] I got this nickname for a reason, baby.

[1:07] I got so much scarred again.

[1:09] You have as much reason to get that nickname as the main character of this movie,

[1:12] who gives one scar, maybe, throughout the film.

[1:16] Yeah, I also give this movie one scar.

[1:19] Oh, man, prequel.

[1:20] That's a preview of your Letterboxd score, didn't you?

[1:24] I actually gave the first one one star, and this one, you know, I bumped up to two stars.

[1:32] For reasons that I will get into in the movie, I like it slightly better.

[1:35] It could be because I was more distracted, and thus, like, the movie kind of served as, like—

[1:42] I mean, this movie is the ultimate second-screen experience, if it is not the first screen.

[1:46] If you are doing something else and you just want laser-fight background, then, yes, this is the movie for you.

[1:51] I was in sort of a bad mood, and it distracted me from that, rather than, like, before, when I'm like,

[1:57] ooh, I'm gonna watch a movie, and then the movie disappointed me so greatly.

[2:01] When Dan started his review and he said, because I was more—

[2:04] I assumed he was about to say invested, in which case I started loading a pistol.

[2:09] Yes, that might have been very surprising.

[2:11] Well, I will say, this movie puts a lot of, like, story and, like, humanity to characters that previously had absolutely none.

[2:22] I wouldn't say it puts a lot. It puts some.

[2:24] I was gonna take issue with the word a lot there.

[2:27] Generous.

[2:28] It gives some sketch of some reason why you might care about these characters late in the game.

[2:34] Like, that should not come—spoiler alert—in the second half of your two-half movie.

[2:40] Like, you should put that earlier so people can care about what the fuck's going on, rather than being like,

[2:47] oh, you know, after the fact, maybe you like these characters now.

[2:50] I'm like, no, I'm sorry. I checked out Rebel Moon.

[2:52] This is a good effort, but this is too little too late.

[2:54] That is the definition of too little too late.

[2:56] But here's the thing about this movie, guys, and this is something that I was gonna go back to in my summary multiple times,

[3:01] so I think I'll just state it here.

[3:03] This movie was clearly made by human beings, written and directed by human beings.

[3:07] The special effects were done by human beings.

[3:08] This feels like an AI movie.

[3:10] The look is the AI look of kind of glossy, blurry kind of stuff that would have looked cool in a fantasy or science fiction poster 20 years ago,

[3:19] but now is kind of overdone.

[3:20] The story is, as boilerplate, boring, dull, standard as possible.

[3:24] The characters have no personality.

[3:26] The visuals are not interesting.

[3:28] Like, it felt to me this was the closest I've seen yet of a movie that felt like it was made by an AI system in that style.

[3:34] Yeah, like if it was revealed at some point that it was like, okay, Haley Joel Osment's character from AI made this movie,

[3:41] I'd be like, I get it.

[3:42] He got me movie.

[3:43] I get it.

[3:43] It feels like a little boy who can't—who, if he eats too much, it just kind of bulges out his cheeks.

[3:48] Yeah, you're right.

[3:49] He did make this, yeah.

[3:50] Ellie, because even the images, the scattered images, I thought were genuinely kind of cool.

[3:56] Like, do I enjoy seeing a robot, a lanky robot with several glowing eyes—

[4:02] And antlers.

[4:03] —and antlers that kind of looks also like a suit of armor?

[4:06] Do I like that?

[4:07] Sure I do, but it also kind of feels like something that has been pulled from a bunch of, you know, human fantasy illustrators' work online and, like, yeah.

[4:17] Yeah, if you go—like, Instagram is full of images generated that are like robot Buddhists or like robots—

[4:26] Robots in forests, yeah.

[4:28] Yeah, like all that kind of crap.

[4:29] Robots fucking.

[4:30] Yeah, all that stuff.

[4:31] Well, you don't need—I mean, people generate those, yeah.

[4:33] A large part of the aesthetic of the creator is just that, which is, you know, like robots in, like, rural settings.

[4:41] And here—it's the combination of that subject matter with the very, like, the blur and gloss and dull coloring that, with AI, hides the fact that it has errors, you know?

[4:52] Like, it feels ultra shiny, but at the same time, like someone coated the lens with grease, you know?

[5:00] And it's—the movie just feels very—it feels like a movie that was not even made by—it feels like people used to say this movie was made by committee.

[5:07] And now I wish I could see a movie made by committee instead of a movie made by one computer that was just fed on all the things in—that exist already.

[5:15] But anyway, let's talk about Rebel Moot.

[5:16] So here's the thing.

[5:17] This movie is over two hours long.

[5:18] I mean, 11 minutes is credits, but it's over two hours long, but I think this may be the shortest summary possibly that we ever do on The Flophouse.

[5:25] Yeah.

[5:25] Because so little happens in this movie.

[5:27] I bet we can derail this thing.

[5:29] That's fair.

[5:30] That's our challenge today.

[5:32] Another reason I like part two more.

[5:34] Shorter than the first half.

[5:35] That's true.

[5:36] And also, it was the easiest movie for The Flophouse that I think I've ever had in terms of taking notes while doing the dishes.

[5:43] Yeah.

[5:44] Just long fight sequences that I don't need to write anything down for.

[5:47] So on that very specific metric, ten stars.

[5:51] If you're judging this movie on convenience of taking notes while doing something else, again, ten out of ten.

[5:56] A plus.

[5:57] Highest recommendation.

[5:58] Perfect second or third screen experience.

[6:00] Stewart?

[6:01] Yo.

[6:02] So—

[6:03] Okay.

[6:04] He said yo, which means he's serious.

[6:05] He's getting real.

[6:06] He's speaking Spanish and he's talking to himself.

[6:08] Yeah, time to turn this chair backwards for a second.

[6:11] So I feel like—so this is the second of two movies.

[6:14] This is the second of two movies of a projected six movies.

[6:18] Six movies, sure.

[6:19] So—but it isn't until, like, maybe ten minutes before the end of the movie when Deborah Bloodaxe shows up with her Rebels—spoiler—shows up with her Rebels.

[6:30] And one of the pilots is an alien that I'm like, oh, yeah, there's fucking aliens in this movie.

[6:35] Like, the first movie, like—

[6:37] Had a couple aliens.

[6:38] It had, like, a Jenna Malone spider lady.

[6:41] Yeah.

[6:42] There was, like, some other guys.

[6:43] Like, where are those guys?

[6:45] When is Jenna Malone going to do that?

[6:48] Yeah, well, this movie really—it targets what people love most about science fiction storytelling, which is harvesting.

[6:56] Long scenes of harvesting and grain.

[6:58] And also just guns that shoot things the same way guns do in real life.

[7:02] Like, this movie is about—

[7:03] I don't know.

[7:04] It shoots, like, sparks and lava and shit fly out when you get hit by the guns, though.

[7:08] Yeah, that's true.

[7:09] That's true.

[7:10] But this movie is about grain and guns.

[7:11] Like, that's pretty much it.

[7:12] And alien—yeah, right.

[7:13] When that alien showed up, there was part of me that was like—that's similar to what we were talking about with backstory.

[7:16] I was like, too little, too late.

[7:17] You can't just throw an alien in at the very end and expect me to be like, oh, yeah, it's a science fiction epic.

[7:21] Yeah.

[7:22] This is just as a service to the one listener who was like, I wonder what the end of Dan's half-muttered sentence was going to be.

[7:28] Yeah.

[7:29] It was just going to be, I wonder when that Jenna Malone spider lady film is going to come out.

[7:33] The adaptation, of course, of the hit comic Spider Lady.

[7:36] Uh-huh.

[7:37] It wasn't worth it, but I didn't want, you know, anyone who has maybe problems with, like, threads being dangled.

[7:44] Yeah.

[7:45] And not resolved to be upset.

[7:47] Yeah.

[7:48] No, I understand.

[7:49] No, you did a public service there.

[7:50] Yeah.

[7:51] I feel bad for the actor who was initially cast to be the third pilot, and they're like, oh, actually, we need to put an alien in this role.

[7:57] And he's like, but I told my parents!

[7:59] Yeah.

[8:00] No, sorry, we're casting an alien now.

[8:02] And then they've got to find an alien.

[8:04] Yeah.

[8:05] Yeah.

[8:06] So let's talk about Rebel Moon Part II, The Scargiver.

[8:07] Very few aliens, as we've mentioned, for a Star Wars ripoff.

[8:10] Yep.

[8:11] And a lot of grain.

[8:12] A lot of reaping and milling.

[8:15] So let's talk about it, shall we?

[8:17] We open with – here was my promise to myself before going in was I was not going to do any research.

[8:23] And I was just going to try to guess what was happening based on my vague memories of the first movie.

[8:27] Luckily, the movie understands nobody cares enough to remember.

[8:30] Yeah.

[8:31] So we open with a voiceover from Anthony Hopkins who, of course, is the voice of a robot named James or Jimmy.

[8:35] Jimmy the robot, yep.

[8:37] He says – he reminds us that Korra and Gunner, they gather –

[8:42] He pronounces it Gunner, which is kind of a wild dog.

[8:46] Oh, that's who you're talking about.

[8:48] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[8:49] When Stuart came in, he's like, are you sad because of the death of Gunner?

[8:52] And I'm like, what?

[8:54] Yeah, yeah.

[8:56] And he's like – Gunner is kind of like – he's kind of like a baby girl, right?

[8:59] Like he's like – he's cute and he's got like his little 5 o'clock shadow, but he can't really do much.

[9:05] He's like there to be like –

[9:06] Well, I mean he saves Korra's life at the end.

[9:08] He's very much the sub in their relationship.

[9:10] Sure.

[9:11] He is the kind of – the gentle, softer man that the heart woman falls for.

[9:17] So Korra and Gunner – he represents a nicer world than she – a nicer universe than she knows.

[9:22] Korra and Gunner, they've gathered warriors –

[9:25] That's how he pronounces it, guys.

[9:27] I mean, Anthony, are you going to correct Sir Anthony Hopkins?

[9:30] No, I won't.

[9:31] That's not assuming the director would not.

[9:33] Have you seen the cute videos he posts of him with his cat hanging out?

[9:36] Yeah, and I also don't care enough to correct.

[9:40] Most of the characters in this movie, I do not know their names.

[9:42] I don't care what their names are.

[9:44] I had the captions on for part of it just so I could find out what their names were because the captions would sometimes say who was talking.

[9:49] I know General Titus and I know Korra.

[9:51] Their names are said every five minutes.

[9:53] Dan, can you name five characters in this movie that we haven't already mentioned?

[9:58] Oh, the –

[10:00] You can't name Jimmy the Robot, Clara, Gooner, or General Titus.

[10:03] Yeah, or Denver Blacks.

[10:05] I think I could only have named three of those anyway, and those would have been the three

[10:09] I think I could have come up with.

[10:10] Dan, what's the bad guy's name?

[10:11] Do you remember the bad guy's name?

[10:13] If you get his first name, I will do ten push-ups right now.

[10:19] Darth Rebel Moon.

[10:21] Pretty close, pretty close.

[10:23] Do you remember, you can't name any of them?

[10:25] No, I don't.

[10:26] The only other character I remember their name is the character named Den, because I

[10:29] was like, you've got a lot of nerve, Rebel Moon, naming a character after Den, and not

[10:34] having him be a regular person in a barbarian body in a fantasy world.

[10:38] A nerd, Elliot.

[10:39] He's not a regular person in a barbarian body.

[10:40] A nerd is a regular person, Stuart.

[10:42] I gotta tell you, when you said that about not doing any research, I didn't as well,

[10:47] and I was like, oh man, I'm not gonna remember any, because they introduce, this is based

[10:52] on the Seven Samurai, they introduce seven characters as the mercenary team, plus all

[11:01] the other people in the movie.

[11:02] Plus all the villagers, yeah.

[11:03] I'm like, I'm not, yeah, I'm not gonna remember this, and then as the movie started, I'm like,

[11:07] man, they could have just slipped a couple of them out the back door, and I would not

[11:11] have noticed.

[11:12] I'm like, are there still seven of them here?

[11:15] I don't think so.

[11:16] I don't think there are.

[11:17] There's one or two of them that just kind of come and go.

[11:19] They kind of appear and disappear.

[11:21] Then one of them was a traitor, Charlie Hunnam's character was a betrayer, and then Debra Bloodaxe's

[11:30] brother, like, Deary and Bloodaxe.

[11:33] How is Debra Bloodaxe's brother doing these days?

[11:36] Not great.

[11:37] At the end of the last episode, at the end of the last movie, remember, he dies, and

[11:40] a random soldier is like, I'll take his place, this random lady soldier.

[11:44] I loved him.

[11:45] I'll take his place.

[11:46] And you're like, are you?

[11:47] Who are you?

[11:48] Like, what?

[11:49] Okay, I guess so.

[11:50] And he has a black paint over eyes, Furiosa style.

[11:53] Yeah.

[11:54] And I think that, I mean, not that we're, I mean, we're talking about the characters,

[11:57] so it doesn't matter necessarily from that stance, but I think that that might be the

[12:04] person portraying that goes by they, them pronouns.

[12:06] But the thing is, like, there's so many different characters that I apologize in advance that

[12:11] we get it wrong because it's just because we don't know who any of these people are.

[12:14] Don't worry, we're not going to be talking about most of them because they're not really

[12:17] that important.

[12:18] They are, they're a cannon fodder for the most part.

[12:21] Of course, we've got to talk about my favorite villain of all time, General Atticus Noble.

[12:25] Or no, Admiral Atticus Noble.

[12:29] That's right.

[12:30] Let's get to him.

[12:31] So let me just finish telling you what the VO says, which is they were collecting warriors

[12:34] to save the village, the village on the planet Velt from Imperial stormtroopers who are,

[12:39] who have a dreadnought ship.

[12:41] And they said, we're going to destroy your village if you don't give us all your grain

[12:43] or whatever.

[12:44] And so then we see Atticus Noble.

[12:47] He died at the end of the last movie.

[12:49] Hora, our hero, killed him, right, Stuart?

[12:51] What happens to Admiral Atticus Noble?

[12:54] Well, they picked him up and then they like wrapped him in a cocoon and then pumped him

[12:57] full of juice.

[12:58] And he's all better now.

[13:00] He's back.

[13:01] Possibly like tougher.

[13:02] Yeah.

[13:03] Like it's tough.

[13:04] I don't remember exactly his skill set.

[13:05] I just remember he got wanked off by like a squid monster in the last one.

[13:08] Yes, that was the one interesting thing that happened in the entire movie last time.

[13:11] I kind of liked the look of this med lab scene because like the doctor, very inefficient.

[13:19] I don't think, I mean, I think that you who would be blinding anyone else who was in the

[13:22] room with him, but like has all of these huge glowing eyes like that shine right in people's

[13:28] faces.

[13:29] Yeah.

[13:30] Yeah.

[13:31] And then like you see like these like holographic scans of like the heart and the brain that,

[13:37] you know, as this person's in this cocoon, this chrysalis.

[13:40] Yeah.

[13:41] And it's kind of like it's the cocoon material.

[13:43] It's kind of like she loves web that she covers Samwise in.

[13:46] Yeah.

[13:47] I, this stuff would all look really cool if I hadn't seen it all before.

[13:50] If it wasn't all variations of stuff, we'd seen it the same way that like, as we've seen

[13:54] with many, with many of these movies that we, you know, these blockbusters that we've

[13:58] or would be blockbusters, this would be cool stuff if it, if we hadn't seen a lot of it

[14:02] already in 15 years, like those doctor outfits look cool, but I just rewatched David Lynch's

[14:07] Dune recently and like the outfits in that look a thousand times cooler and they're really

[14:11] similar to it.

[14:12] So the, uh, anyway, uh, they know, but the baddie he's resurrected Atticus Noble, he's

[14:16] back to life, back to reality.

[14:18] And he knows that the scar giver, uh, who's real name, we know her as Cora, but her real

[14:22] name is like Athea, less, less, or something like that.

[14:25] Artholeus.

[14:26] Yeah.

[14:27] Artholeus.

[14:28] Uh, he's on, she's on belt, the idyllic planet.

[14:29] I, I have a skillset and that's remembering dumb fantasy.

[14:32] That's good.

[14:33] That's good.

[14:34] So the heroes have returned to the village, uh, Aris, a young private who is stationed

[14:38] there is told via hologram call from the bad guys that the harvest has to be ready in five

[14:45] days.

[14:46] And meanwhile, Jimmy, the robot, he's wearing antlers dressing like a shaman just because

[14:49] it looks cool.

[14:50] No real reason.

[14:51] He's just walking around in the, in the wilderness doing nothing.

[14:54] I was reading, I think it was, I think it was a David Ehrlich review.

[14:56] I'm not sure, but like that talked about how much there was about the grain in this movie,

[15:02] how much like threshing happens and about how hilarious it is that, you know, I mean,

[15:06] this is again based on the seven Samurai, but like how important this grain is to this

[15:13] giant, you know, universe conquering force in the same way it was to starving warlords

[15:20] in feudal Japan.

[15:21] I will say it's like there, if this was a better movie, then they could, they could

[15:25] make the point for all the technological prowess this empire has people need to eat and army

[15:30] moves on its stomach.

[15:32] Like they need that grain just to get back to their home world basically because they

[15:36] have, it takes them so long and they have so many soldiers and like, right.

[15:39] That's an interesting thing to talk about, but they don't talk about it.

[15:42] And like the grain there, the harvesting the grain, I guess it's treated as if it's like

[15:46] a sacred event, but in seven Samurai at the end when the villagers are, they're either

[15:51] there, are they, are they replanting or are they harvesting the rice?

[15:53] I don't remember.

[15:54] And they're singing while they do it.

[15:55] And the Samurai are like, they're going to forget about us.

[15:58] Their lives have gone back to normal.

[15:59] They don't care about us anymore.

[16:01] We've done our part.

[16:02] We have no place in a, uh, in a world of peace.

[16:05] Yes.

[16:06] We have no place in a world of peace.

[16:07] And also it's not like they're going to, we were heroes for a moment and now they're back

[16:11] to the rhythms of this life that is less exciting, but in some ways more meaningful.

[16:16] And it's such a beautiful moment and a beautifully sad moment.

[16:18] At the same time, this movie has nothing like that in its, it's like, uh, there's like people

[16:23] with a smoking swords though, do laser swords in it.

[16:28] That's true.

[16:29] That's a totally original idea to have a laser in the form of a sword.

[16:32] But anyway, um, so Cora tells the village leaders that, uh, Admiral Noble is dead.

[16:37] So the threat is over.

[16:38] Uh, but RS is like, Oh no, I do love that.

[16:41] That like simplicity of like, no man, you kill the leader and the whole team leaves.

[16:46] They're all like, Oh, we got to have a new election.

[16:48] I guess.

[16:49] It's like, uh, no, he's still alive and they're coming in like five days.

[16:52] You didn't do it.

[16:53] You didn't accomplish shit.

[16:55] Hansu, he gives one of a couple of very half-baked half-assed speeches where he says to the villagers,

[17:02] Hey, it's time to fight for what you love.

[17:04] You have to harvest that grain in three days so we can use it for my strategy to protect

[17:08] us.

[17:09] Work begins at dawn.

[17:10] And this village of farmers is like, Oh, at dawn.

[17:14] All right.

[17:15] It's like, I guess I can sleep in a little, like usually we get up in the middle of the

[17:21] night.

[17:23] It's so funny because they're like harvesting the grain in three days.

[17:27] I guess so.

[17:28] Their field seems the grain field seems to be about what?

[17:30] A hundred feet square.

[17:31] Like it's so tiny.

[17:32] Yeah.

[17:33] But anyway, uh, core and Gunnar, they talk, uh, he admits that in the battle that they

[17:38] just had at the end of the first movie, he wasn't afraid of dying.

[17:40] He was afraid of losing her and they started making out.

[17:43] They have, how, how would you rate their chemistry?

[17:46] The romantic chemistry on a scale from zero, meaning none to 10, meaning, uh, their souls

[17:51] will be reincarnated together through all eternity.

[17:53] Yeah.

[17:54] Well, I just, I, you mean, you mean, uh, Jennifer Lopez and George Clooney and out of sight

[17:58] levels of chemistry.

[17:59] Yes, exactly.

[18:00] Yeah.

[18:01] I have to explain that I did just for my, uh, for my friend Tom's birthday, he screened,

[18:07] uh, a double feature of action movies.

[18:10] Uh, the one, the first one to see how this connects with what we're talking about.

[18:14] The first one was pretty good and I think I might recommend it later on.

[18:18] So say to, okay.

[18:19] The second one, let me just move to the edge of my seat.

[18:22] I was mostly enjoyed for, uh, dumbness qualities and it was a fair game starring Cindy Crawford

[18:32] and which Baldwin was it?

[18:33] Billy Baldwin.

[18:34] I think it's, well, anyway, and it's not, and it's not a manslaughter, uh, Alec Baldwin.

[18:42] Yeah.

[18:43] One of the lesser tufted Baldwin's was the star.

[18:47] And so seeing the negative chemistry that they seem to despise, so this isn't as bad

[18:55] as that.

[18:56] You're right.

[18:57] Zero would, I guess, be, they hate each other.

[18:58] He seems like a nice guy and she seems to appreciate that.

[19:01] So I'll give, I'll give it like a two or three, but far from the kind of, I mean, maybe it

[19:07] was love born in the heat of battle.

[19:08] So a cut to, they have just had sex.

[19:11] Now it's done, I guess in the R rated version, we'll see it happen.

[19:14] I don't know if they're releasing an, a harder cut of this.

[19:17] Yeah.

[19:18] Yeah.

[19:19] They probably do it to like some space version of hallelujah.

[19:21] Yeah.

[19:22] Yeah.

[19:23] Hallelujah.

[19:24] Droid.

[19:25] Yeah.

[19:26] Or something like that.

[19:27] And so the, uh, he goes, he's there lying in bed and, and the afterglow, as always,

[19:30] you ask your lover about their tragic backstory.

[19:33] So it's like, Hey, how come since you were raised by general Belisarius who runs the

[19:37] space empire, the region, region, Belisarius, Belisarius, why are you considered a criminal?

[19:42] And she goes, Oh,

[19:43] you're a car giver.

[19:44] That's an interesting name.

[19:45] What, where does that come from?

[19:46] Now, again, dear listeners, my back from your nails while we were in the throes of passion.

[19:51] I just want listeners to understand that.

[19:53] Of course, I know that we're not talking about Belisarius call the, uh, the Archmagus who

[19:58] invented the, uh,

[20:00] Primaris Space Marine technique, we're not talking about him, we're talking about Regent Belisarius from the movie Rebel Moon Part 2 The Scargamer.

[20:08] Yeah, the movie we're speaking about today. And so he explains how when she still worked for the Empire, she was the bodyguard of Princess Issa.

[20:20] We learned that last movie. The princess had started persuading her father to stop conquering things and crushing other planets.

[20:28] Oh, that's why we're supposed to care about her. I miss that part because at the end when they all pledge their fealty to the old bloodline or whatever, I'm like, why? They seem bad too.

[20:40] They're also like kings and queens. We shouldn't want them to be saved.

[20:48] I already have problems with the monarchical system.

[20:52] They are setting her up as a sort of divine, almost Christlike figure.

[20:58] She is the innocence embodied in a child.

[21:00] Of course she's divine. She's the daughter of Cary Elwes, Dan.

[21:04] Body fucking wobbly, Cary Elwes.

[21:08] Of the two great Carys of film, Cary Grant and Cary Elwes, Cary Elwes is certainly the lesser. I think Cary Elwes would admit that.

[21:14] But he is still wonderful, still a national treasure.

[21:17] Ruffling feathers.

[21:19] Cary Elwes, if you're listening, I love you. I think you're great. But I think even you would admit that Cary Grant is a different order of magnitude.

[21:25] Where does Cary White fit in this?

[21:27] Spelled differently, right?

[21:29] I'm just talking about C-A-R-Y Carys.

[21:31] Okay.

[21:33] You said great Carys of film.

[21:35] I'm not talking about the Carry On series of British comedies.

[21:39] Sure, yeah, yeah. Not talking about the pig blood magnet telekinetic monster.

[21:47] Yeah, no, not that Cary.

[21:49] So moving on, we can list Carys forever. There's Cary Fisher, of course, which is someone who fishes for Carys in the sea of Carys.

[21:57] There's Cash and Cary and also Cary On.

[22:00] And there's also Caryan, the Spider-Man villain, who is a zombie version of Cary.

[22:05] Well, actually, let's not even get to him. His origin is complicated enough.

[22:08] Anyways, Dan, I'll tell you more about this.

[22:10] I can't believe Elliot was there. Elliot was about to digress even too much for him.

[22:15] Dan, I'll tell you about the origin of the Spider-Man villain Caryan.

[22:18] You know what? I honestly am interested, but you're right. We probably shouldn't.

[22:23] Yeah, we have so much plot to get through.

[22:25] There's so much plot to get through.

[22:26] So she explains Princess Issa was like, hey, maybe we shouldn't conquer things anymore.

[22:30] And her dad was like, yeah, that's right.

[22:33] So they were going to go christen the last of the battle dreadnoughts.

[22:36] And Belisarius was like, I've fought for all my life for this army.

[22:40] I'm not going to give up now and told Korra, you have to kill the princess.

[22:44] And so at the christening, as a blindfolded string quintet plays, like they're in Eyes Wide Shut or something.

[22:52] I kind of like that.

[22:53] I like this too.

[22:54] I like that there was live scoring for all this murder that was about to happen.

[23:00] They just got like they went with it.

[23:02] They're like, OK, I guess it needs to get more intense and scary.

[23:05] And it's also funny.

[23:06] I feel like this was this scene kind of reflects, I think, the general like like Cliff Notes version of a story that these movies are because like neither the queen nor the princess.

[23:20] It looks like they spent more than like maybe 10 minutes in the like hair and makeup chair.

[23:25] And I'm like the fucking super fake.

[23:28] The villain looks weird as shit.

[23:30] It looks like a woolly willy.

[23:33] I mean, in a way, that makes him a good villain.

[23:36] Yeah, it looks like it breaks your brain to look at the ultimate villain.

[23:39] Woolly willy.

[23:40] Yeah, there's a lot of time.

[23:42] Stick your stick your face in this pot of paste and then we're going to blow iron filings onto you.

[23:48] Like they didn't even give they didn't even give the princess an updo.

[23:51] I mean, come on.

[23:52] Like what?

[23:53] Like Never Ending Story princess, Princess Leia.

[23:58] These are classic princess hairstyles.

[24:00] So her hair is just down.

[24:01] Yeah, like.

[24:02] Yeah.

[24:03] So anyway, so they kill the king and queen.

[24:07] And Korra is like not sure if she can shoot the princess.

[24:10] And Belisarius is like, do it.

[24:12] And the princess goes, it's OK.

[24:13] I forgive you.

[24:14] And Korra shoots and kills her.

[24:16] And then Belisarius is like and then she's like she gets upset.

[24:19] And Belisarius is like, oh, by the way, I'm going to blame all this on you.

[24:23] And he starts going, she just killed the king and queen and the princess.

[24:26] And everyone's going, yeah, traitor, traitor.

[24:28] Like they're all they get they jump into the play acting so fast.

[24:32] And she fights her way out, runs away.

[24:34] And she decides she's going to honor the princess by being more than a weapon.

[24:37] She's not going to be, I guess, a farmer and a lover.

[24:40] And that's her backstory.

[24:42] Next morning.

[24:43] Joker.

[24:44] Next morning we begin the famous.

[24:47] I think he kind of glossed over the fact that when she shot the princess, the princess started like shooting out glowing light.

[24:53] I wasn't sure if that was the laser beam working or if that was because they never talk about it again.

[24:58] So I didn't know if that was just the weapon or if that was her body being magical.

[25:01] I presume I, you know, look, sometimes with these movies, if I'm having a hard time following everything, particularly if it's, you know, the second half of a two part movie that gets split unceremoniously.

[25:14] I have the Wikipedia open.

[25:16] So I knew ahead of time, like we were headed towards like that princess was was going to be alive at the end.

[25:22] Spoiler for anyone who was not intending to listen to all of our synopsis for some reason.

[25:27] But like so I was like, oh, this glowiness, this must be related somehow to how she survives.

[25:33] But we don't know yet.

[25:34] We don't know yet until, you know, Rebel Moon Part three.

[25:37] Glowy girl.

[25:39] Glowy girl.

[25:40] Yeah, yeah.

[25:41] That's what it's going to be called.

[25:42] Glowy girl.

[25:43] Yeah.

[25:44] And so the next morning, everyone goes out.

[25:46] They start harvesting grain in various degrees of slow motion.

[25:49] This goes on for a long time.

[25:52] And we go to the king's gaze.

[25:54] That's the dreadnought that noble commands.

[25:56] And he demand he goes, I need to be put back in command.

[25:58] And his doctor is like, oh, we just have to run some tests.

[26:00] And he shoots the doctor and kills him in anger.

[26:02] And everyone's like, yeah, you're in charge again.

[26:04] That's the final test.

[26:07] And they're like, oh, we're sorry that that scar is still on your chest.

[26:09] The med droids couldn't remove it.

[26:11] We'll work on that.

[26:12] So it was given to me by the scar giver herself.

[26:14] I will cherish it.

[26:15] And it's like it's not that good a scar.

[26:17] Like it just kind of looks it looks like an octopus sucker got stuck to his chest.

[26:21] She's known for, you know, it's like whatever.

[26:24] She doesn't do it at all.

[26:26] I mean, mostly she cuts people's heads off or shoots them with guns.

[26:28] So the idea that she's the scar giver makes no sense.

[26:31] I would just say it's in her name, you know.

[26:33] Did she give someone else a scar in the first movie?

[26:35] I don't remember.

[26:36] I mean, unless unless the thing is that she's giving herself scars like Zazaz,

[26:39] the Batman villain, you know, for each for each victim.

[26:42] She cuts a scar, but she doesn't seem to do that.

[26:44] I know Zazaz, you don't have to explain.

[26:46] No treats to it like an idiot.

[26:49] Dan wasn't super familiar with Tarion, so nobody's familiar with Zazaz.

[26:52] Sure, yeah.

[26:54] Zazaz, a villain who honorarily does not have that much Zazaz.

[26:57] Yeah, certainly no Riz.

[27:00] No, not at all.

[27:02] No.

[27:03] So there's more harvesting.

[27:05] We see that Titus, the Juman Hantu's character who was an alcoholic,

[27:09] is now dipping his flask into just a barrel of plain water.

[27:13] Oh, perhaps he cares a little bit.

[27:15] The harvesting, it's all set to soulful village kind of choral and music.

[27:18] It goes on forever.

[27:20] It takes forever.

[27:21] Blessedly night falls.

[27:22] The one like nod to futuristic crap is the thing,

[27:27] the like truck they throw all the grain onto is floating.

[27:31] Yes.

[27:32] That's the only thing.

[27:33] Other than that, it's like old school like sides.

[27:35] They're basically Amish.

[27:37] Yeah, and the horses they ride are alien horses.

[27:40] They look a little different.

[27:41] They sound a little different.

[27:42] Which I got to say, the whole like trad lifestyle push here, I'm not into.

[27:47] No, not at me.

[27:49] I feel like this is the kind of movie that like John Krasinski would be like,

[27:52] this sounds good.

[27:53] This is my fantasy.

[27:55] But also in a better movie,

[27:57] they would be setting up duality between the mechanized inhuman empire

[28:01] and the kind of personal, individual, agricultural,

[28:04] kind of close to the land village.

[28:06] But instead, they're just like they can't be bothered to put a point on it.

[28:09] So they're just kind of they're just going with the shorthand of like grain,

[28:12] good farming, good plow.

[28:14] You know, these people are good because they plow.

[28:16] And to be honest, there are no until the heroes come in.

[28:20] They're all white anyway.

[28:21] Right.

[28:22] They do.

[28:23] They look like, you know, white trad people,

[28:24] which is whereas the we also know they're good because they have this big

[28:29] ceremony where they give all the like heroes their own special banner.

[28:33] We're getting to when everybody gets their own knit banner.

[28:36] Yeah.

[28:37] Well, before we get to that, I want to dive a little bit into like,

[28:39] Stuart, I feel like you're, you're a strong dislike for John Krasinski.

[28:43] Yeah.

[28:44] Is moving into like a new zone where you're starting to like,

[28:47] I don't get it.

[28:49] Political ascribed characteristics to him that I don't necessarily associate

[28:56] with John Krasinski.

[28:57] Two things you dislike and you're like, I bet that guy is.

[29:00] Oh, well, I don't know.

[29:01] I mean, I mean,

[29:02] I feel like a quiet place that's a pretty strong and a pretty obvious like

[29:06] trad family structure reading the idea that they're like, yeah,

[29:12] you know, we live in a world where if you make noise, aliens will eat you.

[29:15] Let's pump out a bunch of fucking babies.

[29:18] Yeah.

[29:19] So that's stupid.

[29:20] I mean, you need to continue.

[29:22] I mean, if you have any interest in the continuing of the human race,

[29:24] you do need to have babies at some point.

[29:26] Yeah.

[29:27] But I feel like put it off and tell like,

[29:29] maybe we figure out the alien problem.

[29:31] Thank you, Dan.

[29:32] Yeah.

[29:33] You don't have to make those decisions.

[29:34] If you can put off a baby for like, you know,

[29:36] work reasons or whatever,

[29:37] you can probably do it for like an alien invasion.

[29:40] I mean,

[29:41] I know Dan that you share his John Krasinski's belief that the CIA is a

[29:45] necessary evil in the world and that it's not evil at all.

[29:49] It's actually a good thing.

[29:50] I mean,

[29:51] is that just based on him being in a TV show about it?

[29:54] He like did an interview after visiting the CIA headquarters.

[29:57] He was like,

[29:58] everybody should be so thankful that the.

[30:00] I also would like to admit I don't in the political sense

[30:04] I I don't have a lot of understanding of like the usage of trad

[30:08] I recently used trad to refer to like trad menswear fashion like like like a like a trad look

[30:15] Uh-huh, and menswear Twitter guy beat you up. Yeah

[30:18] Well, yeah

[30:25] No, I would it was with Audrey and she's like, what are you talking about?

[30:31] Or she's like I thought you were talking to traditional I Rick Irish folk music

[30:36] Unfortunately, we live in a climate right now where everything is political

[30:39] I only just recently learned how Mac tonight has become a symbol of alt-right racism over the years

[30:45] No, not you exactly I was devastated to learn it and so everything is political everything is that angle which sucks

[30:52] But I also I want to take a moment after that to just celebrate

[30:55] Stewart's intense passionate dislike for John Krasinski

[30:59] My opinion on him is like and like I don't really think about him one way or the other but Stewart so much your brain

[31:04] Space is spent mad at John Krasinski and I want to cherish that and recognize it and thank you. Yeah. Yeah that fire, please

[31:10] Yeah to me just seems like a guy but yeah, I appreciate it I appreciate you know in this I'm not up to every world

[31:17] There are certain like rocks

[31:20] Does not like John Krasinski

[31:22] It's power broker size takedown of John Krasinski 20 years or now and I'm up. I'm a passionate man

[31:28] My my blood my fiery blood burns hot

[31:32] And you know, I I feel like that's this podcast is a great way for me to share those passions. Yeah

[31:39] Talking about Warhammer and my dislike of certain famous people you have to vent your hot, Indiana blood sometimes, you know

[31:47] Yeah, we're known for being a passionate people

[31:50] I mean, it's the one state where they were like daylight saving. No, thank you

[31:57] Not to disbelieve your you know lived experience sir, but I I experience I experience you is more like me

[32:04] Where there's a lot of anger there and it all gets directed inward at one

[32:08] But a certain part of it is being directed inward to I guess one of the two John Krasinski's that

[32:15] Spill over I guess yeah. Yeah. Well, we'll do other podcasts of where I talk about other celebrities. I don't like yeah

[32:21] Okay. Yeah, I'm looking forward to Stewart's new podcast cuz in ski Krasinski, which one is worst

[32:28] You'll be surprised that the conclusion story gets to anyway

[32:32] Stewart's opinions about John Krasinski don't necessarily speak for the entirety of the flaws

[32:35] Just because I haven't thought about it that much. Yeah, that's my disclaimer. Okay, so

[32:40] So Nobles back in charge harvesting the he reports back to superiors something and Admiral Noble is like well

[32:48] I guess he's picked sides

[32:49] He knows that the young private who's been stationed at the village has taken the village's side now guess what they're doing guys

[32:55] Exciting science fiction epic. They are milling the grain. We like it to watch them milling. Oh, okay. Cool. They say we're the millers

[33:04] As they do they do say that yeah, and

[33:08] Okay, then it's that night the village girl who's in love with Aris. I think I think her name is Sam

[33:13] But I only know she's the way he saved her from

[33:16] Being assaulted by the evil. Yes, right

[33:19] she gives gifts of hand woven blankets and banners each one gets their own symbol and

[33:25] Gunnar's he's she's like you're the heart of us all so just got a big cartoony heart on it

[33:29] If I was gonna I would be like, what is this?

[33:32] Lightning bolts and like mountains and and monsters. I got a big goofy heart. Come on

[33:36] And this is one of those I I don't know about you guys

[33:39] But I love it when a movie has characters not really do anything

[33:42] and then all of a sudden everyone's like and I love you because you're so good at fighting and doing this other stuff and you're

[33:48] Like you didn't see it

[33:50] She is investing so much personality into each of these characters through just the gift

[33:55] She's giving them much more than I've seen and this is where I want to talk about something

[33:58] I'm gonna digress to talk about something related to the door, which is the aspect of personality

[34:02] It seems like what this movie thinks is that we think characters are cool or charismatic

[34:08] If they are badass fighters and super buff when in reality, I think audiences are drawn to personalities. Think about this

[34:15] Here's my thought express. Okay. Sure thing about Star Wars

[34:18] Who is the character in Star Wars that everybody seems to gravitate towards Han Solo, right people love Han Solo

[34:24] Is he a super badass not really he's kind of a screw-up like there's something cool about him

[34:29] But he's grew up, but he's got so much personality partly because we Harrison Ford plays him partly the way

[34:34] He's written in contrast to Luke Skywalker who has minimal personality in some ways

[34:42] But any because the jet I mean as a Jedi he has less personality than he had

[34:46] Yeah, yeah

[34:46] But I'd like Luke Scott

[34:48] I feel like kids can identify with Luke Skywalker because his needs are his wants are similar to theirs

[34:53] Yes, but Han Solo is like the cooler older brother. He's aspirational in that way

[34:57] But so much of it is just that he has so much personality. It's not that just that he's a badass

[35:01] Here's an example. We're not supposed to talk about anymore because he's a guy people don't like anymore

[35:05] But who is the opposite of a badass?

[35:07] Woody Allen was the star of many movies because he has a lot of personality even if his personality that you find irritating

[35:14] His personality is very clearly defined and has a lot of detail to it

[35:18] The character I think audiences are drawn to characters who whether they're likable or not whether they're attractive or not

[35:23] Whether they're charismatic not have a lot of personality and the characters in this movie have no personality nothing

[35:29] Yeah, they're nothing differentiates them and it means that you kind of don't know you don't know or care who anyone is

[35:35] Well, and this doesn't give them any more personality

[35:38] But failing this at least give them something

[35:42] Sort of relatable and this goes back to me saying like yeah

[35:47] I did kind of like this better than the first one for reasons associated with like

[35:53] Look, it all comes in the form of sort of a dumb generic info dump where like everyone goes around the table being like

[36:00] What's your story? You know like that kind of thing, but at least we do do that at least a little bit

[36:07] Yeah, at least when that comes around the table going what's in your wallet, yeah when that comes those stories are like

[36:15] Generally, like tales of like sadness or what they've like lost or whatever that make you

[36:21] Relate to them versus how we are introduced to these characters in the first movie

[36:24] We're just like we get a bunch of action scenes that don't mean anything

[36:27] But they're there to be like there's new characters pretty cool, right?

[36:30] Cuz we meet them doing this action thing, you know

[36:33] Look how cool this character is not let look how interesting or relatable or or yeah, just

[36:40] Identifiable the character is you know as a character with a personality, but yeah

[36:44] I mean this movie does suggest like would

[36:47] Seven samurai have been better if there was like the townspeople were super excited to have these samurai show up

[36:55] And there was no conflict between them at all

[36:58] I mean, that's again

[37:00] I mean no one even Zack Snyder have to assume is does not think this movie is as good as seven samurai

[37:04] Which is an amazing movie, but you look at that movie

[37:06] Which was has this the template for so many adventure movies and it's like yeah

[37:10] There's conflict between the heroes and the people they're protecting which enriches it the characters have different personalities to share Mufuni's character

[37:17] Who's like, you know to share Mufuni is basically the Wolverine of any movie that he's in

[37:21] His character is like a screw-up who is lying about who he is and the other ones are like, okay

[37:27] And he has and when he dies, it's incredibly you're like, oh like this guy like he probably shouldn't even been there

[37:34] But he gave us all and like he did in the end. He doesn't even have a full set of armor

[37:37] He's not wearing pants when he dies. Like did you guys did you guys see?

[37:42] Have you guys watched Shogun yet? Have you guys watched the new show?

[37:46] I haven't watched the rest yet. I hear very good things, but I've not yeah, there's well

[37:50] The character Yabashi gay is like the actor is clearly channeling some like tissue or Mufuni energy and he's like such a scoundrel and

[37:59] It's the same actor. He was the guy from from Ichi the killer with the you know, the piercings in his cheek. Oh, really?

[38:07] I hope he cuts off the tip of his tongue because as punishment, right? I love

[38:12] Sacrifice that part. Oh now I really got to watch it. Yeah

[38:15] I think you'd like it does he still have the piercings in his cheeks and he can open?

[38:19] Yeah

[38:20] but there's a

[38:22] Link to that personality is the fact that guys

[38:25] Why do you think people really responded to the first Star Wars movie?

[38:28] Do you think it was because there's an elaborate mythology and it's and it's really like the characters all have

[38:34] There's a thousand characters or anything is because it's a fun-ass movie

[38:38] It's super fun to watch and the characters look like they're having fun during a lot of the movie

[38:43] Yeah, I feel like I feel like people went to see it initially because of the the promise of spectacle

[38:48] But the reason why people the reason why I've endured is because of the fact that it's fun

[38:53] It's fun. And I think that it was fun spectacle that they were seeing they weren't seeing it wasn't the spectacle of

[38:59] Person after person being shot in slow motion sadly with laser blasts

[39:03] It was you know characters running around doing things and big spaceships

[39:06] And also that was stuff that people had not really seen in a movie at that level

[39:10] Whereas we've seen if it there was novelty to it, I guess is the other thing. Yeah, this movie is so

[39:14] Unfun like it's so not fun at all and we go to anyway

[39:19] There's they're giving out banners the descriptions of these characters as Dan was saying they imbue a lot of

[39:24] Character to these characters that otherwise don't have them and it's like oh this village girl is very

[39:29] probing

[39:30] judge of characters

[39:31] And so we haven't seen anything that would lead us to these

[39:33] There's a village dance general Titus sings a song in a made-up alien language

[39:36] And I was thinking this is the kind of scene you see a lot in John Ford movies

[39:40] We just see like a cavalry dance or like people on the frontier kind of partying right and those

[39:46] Those function as like a way of saying to you. This is the way people used to live

[39:51] We're gonna live with them for a little bit

[39:52] Whereas this is all made-up science fiction nonsense like none of it meet it's never it's real or means anything

[39:57] So it's not accomplishing the same thing

[40:00] I don't think it gives enough flavor.

[40:02] It feels like it's like, it gives you plenty of like vanilla.

[40:06] Yes.

[40:07] And it feels very vanilla.

[40:08] That's the thing.

[40:09] There's nothing specific about it.

[40:10] It's not accomplishing that.

[40:11] I think that in a plot sense, it's trying to be like, here's the calm before the storm.

[40:16] Here's like the last minute, like they're all happy together and they've been accepted

[40:20] into the community and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

[40:23] And then the violence starts.

[40:25] I mean, I feel like there's such a, that's done so well in like Fiddler on the Roof.

[40:30] In the wedding scene, they're dancing and literally the pogrom starts.

[40:33] The dancing scene sequence isn't as good as Fiddler on the Roof.

[40:38] But it's, but also that like, I don't know, when something is a, it's harder, it's harder

[40:41] for me to be, I mean, if you're going to try to get me invested in a rural dancing scene

[40:45] in a made up science fiction world, the dancing better be good.

[40:48] It better be interesting.

[40:49] Like it better be something I haven't seen before as opposed to, it just looks like I'm

[40:52] watching Space 7 Brides for 7 Brothers for a moment.

[40:54] Yeah.

[40:55] I better see, I better see like Sonic and Tails dancing their little hearts out.

[40:59] And then making out in a corner.

[41:01] Yeah.

[41:02] And then getting pregnant somehow.

[41:04] Yeah.

[41:05] So the next day there's a prepping.

[41:06] Somehow.

[41:07] It's pretty mapped out.

[41:08] Well, prepping the, I mean, I don't know how they do things, but they're prepping the village

[41:13] for battle.

[41:14] There's a whole montage of that.

[41:15] The villagers all seem like they're already really good with weapons.

[41:18] They put weapons in their hands and they're really good shots.

[41:20] They're really good at chopping the heads off of straw mannequins.

[41:22] There's not a lot of training that has to be done, which is good because they don't

[41:25] have a lot of time.

[41:26] They go get Korras, crash ships.

[41:27] Yeah.

[41:28] I mean, that's, that's the thing is like, I, there's, there's no, I mean, obviously

[41:34] we know what this movie is going to give us, so we know that they're going to win.

[41:37] But like, there isn't enough of a feeling that they're like, yeah, we're going to die.

[41:41] Yeah.

[41:42] Like, we're not good at this.

[41:43] They're like, no, everybody's super good at shooting and their guns are amazing.

[41:47] Yeah.

[41:48] Yeah.

[41:49] You need Axl Rose to come in and be like, you're going to die.

[41:52] Yes.

[41:53] I do need that.

[41:54] Yeah.

[41:55] It would be helpful.

[41:56] Yeah.

[41:57] I hate to keep doing this.

[41:58] I hate to keep just comparing it to movies that do a better job of this, but if you watch

[42:01] Mulan, it gives you a better sense of like, these people have to shape up and become soldiers.

[42:05] Yeah.

[42:06] They don't know what they're doing.

[42:07] I mean, that song rules.

[42:08] It's a great song.

[42:09] Yeah.

[42:10] As mysterious as the dark side of the moon.

[42:12] Yeah.

[42:13] It doesn't get better than that.

[42:14] Yeah.

[42:15] But, uh, the, it's just like, we've seen this stuff done in movies so many times to do it.

[42:20] This half-assed is very, is just like, feels lazy to me.

[42:23] Okay.

[42:24] Let's keep moving.

[42:25] They find Korra's ship.

[42:26] They hide it behind a, behind a waterfall.

[42:28] The droid keeps watching from a distance, does nothing to help anybody at any point.

[42:33] He's hoping that someone will bathe in that waterfall at some point.

[42:36] So he's, he's just like a perv droid.

[42:38] Yeah.

[42:39] It's like, where's, where's Sheena where I need her?

[42:41] Yeah, exactly.

[42:42] Uh, Nightfalls.

[42:43] This is when Tidus talks to the heroes.

[42:45] They go around the table and they tell their stories.

[42:48] Every single one of their stories is the empire came and destroyed my village or city.

[42:52] And so I vowed revenge.

[42:53] It's the same time every time.

[42:55] Well, I'm like when Tidus tells his story, so he leads off and he's like, everybody has

[42:59] to tell the truth, no lies.

[43:01] And I'm like, okay, so people are going to reveal moments of personal weakness.

[43:04] He's like, we're playing two truths and a lies minus one lie.

[43:06] But like he, you know, he makes a point of like his story, at least there's some element

[43:11] where he's like, I'm ashamed that I took away the opportunity for my soldiers to fight back.

[43:17] I surrendered thinking I was saving them, but in fact I, I killed them.

[43:21] They were all executed.

[43:22] So there's some element.

[43:24] There's some element where he's like, look, I made a mistake and I'm ashamed for it.

[43:28] And so I'm trying to atone for that.

[43:30] And everybody else is just like, yeah, I just, uh, the empire is bad.

[43:34] So you're not going to see me running.

[43:38] It's funny.

[43:39] He's like the truth, no lies.

[43:40] And it's like, they didn't tell these stories before.

[43:42] Why not?

[43:43] Yeah.

[43:44] There's nothing.

[43:45] I feel like this is, it's all like super surface backs.

[43:47] Like I feel like part of the thing is that like all these characters were picked because

[43:51] they're like legendary, like fighters kind of, right?

[43:55] Well, also that set up and eventually we learned that like, uh, Jimen Hanzo's character knows,

[44:02] uh, who the scar giver is, that she killed the thought, or at least thought she killed

[44:09] the princess, et cetera, et cetera.

[44:11] But him like setting it up with no lies is a weird thing to do.

[44:16] If not for like trying to be like, are you going to tell us about the princess?

[44:21] And Cora doesn't tell them, but she goes, oh, by the way, Titus has been drinking water

[44:25] instead of liquor.

[44:26] Like that's the secret she reveals.

[44:28] And they're all like, you SOB, you pulled a fast one on us.

[44:32] I love his idea that like, I gotta, I gotta keep it secret that I've found sobriety.

[44:37] Well, I can understand that he does not want them to know that like he cares enough to

[44:42] stop drinking, I guess.

[44:43] It's like when somebody orders a non-alcoholic drink, uh, like a non-alcoholic beer for me,

[44:47] I often offer them a glass so they don't have to feel like, well, they feel pure.

[44:53] I don't think anyone's going to be like in the context of training for like fighting

[44:58] you should be drunk for this glass and they drink and they go, Titus, are you pregnant?

[45:03] And you didn't want to tell us.

[45:05] Yeah.

[45:06] Love it.

[45:07] Then it would.

[45:08] Yeah.

[45:09] Yeah.

[45:10] But it is, it is a, it is a, I feel like the characters are not really, except for Cora

[45:13] having killed a princess, the characters are not allowed to be like complicated characters.

[45:18] And even Titus's thing was, I made a mistake when I tried to save my men.

[45:21] And like the secret that he's ashamed of is that he's not drinking anymore.

[45:24] Like they have to be heroes and there's no, there's no shades of gray, you know?

[45:27] So she, so she has a nickname presumably given by somebody else where she's called the scar

[45:33] giver.

[45:34] I mean, if she gave herself the nickname, the scar giver, that would be incredibly uncool.

[45:36] I had a friend naming himself the edge, you know, I had a friend in high school who tried

[45:40] to give himself the nickname bones.

[45:42] And we're like, you can write bones on your baseball cap as much as you want, buddy.

[45:48] He's going to buy it.

[45:49] But so somebody else gave her this nickname.

[45:51] And then I think they did that before she was framed for murdering the entire royal

[45:56] family.

[45:57] She was already the scar giver.

[45:58] Yeah.

[45:59] Don't you think they would have come up with like a new, less flattering nickname, like

[46:02] the child killer supersedes the scar giving like, like the lady regicide, like, yeah,

[46:10] kill that princess out now highlighting that she killed, like theoretically killed the

[46:21] defenseless princess would have been as opposed to be like a cool name.

[46:26] Try and give her a name.

[46:27] That's like makes like diminishes her.

[46:30] Right.

[46:31] Yes.

[46:32] Uh, legend.

[46:33] I guess I can understand it if she was still called the scar giver by rebels, but the Royals,

[46:38] like the government called her something different, you know?

[46:40] Then this is more thought than she needs.

[46:42] More nicknames is what I'm saying.

[46:43] She needs.

[46:44] Yeah.

[46:45] She needs better.

[46:46] Cora Arthelius.

[46:47] Yeah.

[46:48] For her trading card.

[46:49] There needs to be a space for all of the different.

[46:50] Yeah.

[46:51] For her aliases.

[46:52] Yeah.

[46:53] She has more names than a character in a Russian novel.

[46:54] I mean, this is nuts.

[46:55] So anyway, uh, the next day Cora, she, oh, this is when she hides her shit behind a waterfall.

[47:00] She encounters James the robot.

[47:01] He also feels regret and hopelessness and tells her they can't win because even the

[47:05] robot has to be dour and serious all the time.

[47:08] And it's like, guys, remember those robots from star Wars?

[47:11] Remember, remember how, how sad and serious they were?

[47:13] I don't.

[47:14] They were super fun.

[47:15] How one of them was like a sassy little guy.

[47:18] You didn't understand, but you knew he was sassy and the other one was real fuss pot.

[47:21] Yeah, exactly.

[47:22] Like, remember how, remember how they, instead of how they had the cattiest gayest robots

[47:27] that were ever in a science fiction movie and we loved it because there was so much

[47:30] personality to them.

[47:31] Yeah.

[47:32] Yeah.

[47:33] Oh man.

[47:34] Instead, this robot is very sad and depressed.

[47:35] Yeah.

[47:36] I mean, it's, it reminds me of Patton Oswalt spit about the star Wars prequels where it's

[47:39] like, yeah, remember how cool Darth Vader is?

[47:41] Oh yeah.

[47:42] Yeah.

[47:43] Well, you see him as a kid and he's sad.

[47:44] Like remember, remember Boba Fett?

[47:45] Oh yeah.

[47:46] Yeah.

[47:47] With the helmet and everything.

[47:48] Yeah.

[47:49] You see him as a kid and he's sad.

[47:50] Like it feels like Zack Snyder was like, yeah, that is the way star Wars should be.

[47:51] Everyone should be sad.

[47:52] So anyway, um, he's like, you know, you can't win, blah, blah, blah.

[47:56] The dreadnought reaches the village and noble and his Lieutenant, they're like, oh, we can

[48:00] tell from the sky.

[48:01] They arranged the grain for strategic purposes.

[48:03] Why don't we just go to that building where all the women and children are held and just

[48:06] kidnap all of them.

[48:07] And they decided to do that.

[48:09] Uh, Arthur Lewis, Cora, what their plan was.

[48:12] So the reason they had to get that grain cranked up, they had to crank the grain was because

[48:17] they need to have it ready to use it as both a bargaining chip, which they never really

[48:22] use and as like defensive measure because they're like, the empire is not going to shoot

[48:27] the grain cause they need it.

[48:29] But that does not matter at all.

[48:30] There's like, that is out the window immediately.

[48:33] They're like, just shooting grain.

[48:34] Well, they say the empire needs this grain and as, and as, as rational actors, they will

[48:41] not destroy the thing they came here for.

[48:43] And we can also use it to hide behind like sandbags.

[48:45] And that is a good strategy if you're not dealing with Atticus noble, who does not give

[48:49] an F what happens to the grain, he's a wild boy with a new attitude.

[48:56] I gotta say, you know, as much as I was like, you don't need to bring the bad guy back from

[49:00] the first movie for the second one.

[49:01] He's the only one who seems to be having fun, man.

[49:04] Yes, that's true.

[49:05] He, he, he does a lot of Nazi smiling in this movie.

[49:08] I would call it.

[49:09] He's got like, he's got possibly the worst haircut I've ever seen.

[49:13] Like if I had to look it up, it's like worse than Jim Carrey's in dumb and dumber.

[49:17] It's the, I'm sorry if my listeners out there are like all the Stuart listeners out there,

[49:22] not you guys listening.

[49:23] It's just the ones who only listen to my voice that are out there that are like, I just got

[49:27] that haircut.

[49:28] I think it looks really cool.

[49:29] Like, I'm sorry if you went to your barber and asked for the Atticus noble, give me the

[49:34] one where it looks like a bowl cut by way of Hamlet.

[49:37] Stuart, have you been releasing a cut of these episodes?

[49:40] That's just your voice.

[49:41] I love it.

[49:42] It's a lot of me saying sure.

[49:46] And uh huh.

[49:47] Wowzers.

[49:48] So, uh, Cora, she cuts her hair for battle, just like the historical Joan of Arc or the

[49:55] non-historical Furiosa in the movie Furiosa, which kind of looks like.

[50:00] Nobles haircut, so maybe that's like a traditional going into battle

[50:06] The baddies send out their dropships and noble lands and he's just on starts taunting Cora

[50:11] If you want and she goes leave now or die and he goes. Mmm, I think instead I'll destroy the village unless you surrender to me

[50:18] uh-oh, it's kind of the same challenge that Titus was given and

[50:22] Cora is about to surrender when Gunnar he rings the bell that

[50:27] Signals the villagers to attack and the villagers do and Gunnar runs off with Cora and the villagers are just beating the shit out of

[50:33] The bad guys, they are they're just slaughtering the elite troops of the Imperium like it's ridiculous

[50:39] Yeah, like they're Fremen in the Saudi car

[50:43] Similarly, they're popping up out of the ground they fire they go back in again like they're it's amazing and laser sword lady

[50:49] She does some slow-mo laser sword fighting. Why don't the bad guys shoot her instead of fighting her with laser swords? It doesn't matter

[50:55] It's just supposed to look cool

[50:56] It doesn't but she's there defending the the women and children who a soldier so the laser sword lady her name is nemesis

[51:02] so I appreciate if you remembered her cool name nemesis the

[51:07] So she her back story by Duna Bay who has been in much much better movies. Yeah

[51:13] she

[51:15] In her backstory. She the Empire screwed her over

[51:18] So she used laser swords to chop off her own arms or hands or wrists or whatever and then with traditional robo fighting

[51:26] Gauntlets. Yeah, uh-huh

[51:28] That's kind of cool

[51:35] If you told me this character has

[51:37] Had to cut off her own hands to put on robot hands that are programmed with the techniques of the greatest sword fighters

[51:43] I'd be like that's a really cool thing, but it doesn't feel cool in the movie

[51:47] Like they did extra stuff. Yes, but all they do is sword fight. They're just hands

[51:54] Well, this thing is that sword fighting it's not mostly in the hands a lot of

[52:01] I'm gonna be the greatest baseball hitter ever

[52:04] I'll just cut my hands off at the wrists and then I'll get that I'll hold the baseball bat better. It's like well

[52:10] Entire plot of the movie rookie of the year

[52:14] No

[52:15] Stewart Dan say no Stewart. That is his shoulder that gets injured. That's giving him a better throw

[52:20] Yeah

[52:21] He doesn't get his hands cut off and then what a famous baseball players hands sewn on like in cowards bend the knee

[52:26] Like maybe comes the best at bunting. He's just a real good bunter. They call him Billy Bunter

[52:33] Just because you bring up the silliness of using the laser swords against I also later on

[52:39] When Jimmy shows up, you know, no, no, you know, like we'll get into it, but Jimmy's gonna show up in a couple minutes

[52:45] Yeah, he like beats the shit out of a bunch of space Nazis like grabs a gun and then he just like starts

[52:52] Whacking people with that gun. I'm like, why aren't you shooting people that gun or using I don't know

[52:58] You must have some sort of robot powers

[53:01] With this movie that carrot the hero characters and again, maybe it's a way it's a way of differentiating them

[53:06] Cooler but like they'll have like a battle axe and they'll rush against a bunch of guys with lasers

[53:11] The guys with lasers will wait until the battle axe guy is close enough to kill them

[53:14] They will then pick up the gun shoot a couple people throw the gun away and then just go back to running at people the

[53:19] Battle axe and it's it's so like it makes sense for me. What would look cool fighting point of view?

[53:24] But from a fighting point of view

[53:26] It doesn't really make sense to throw away your distance weapons that you can run at the guy who has a distance weapon

[53:30] It would have been cool

[53:31] If like they made any effort into making people fight like differently like the robot should fight like a cool tough robot as opposed to

[53:38] a robot that does flips and stuff

[53:41] Yeah, they all kind of fight the same way. I mean, it's unless he was a circus robot. Then that would be cool

[53:45] Yeah, a robot. Yeah, sure. Yeah

[53:48] So they're fighting fighting fighting

[53:52] Noble, he he just leaves at a certain point

[53:56] It just goes well, you realize that like yeah, he's like this is pointless

[54:03] Yeah, one of the heroes jumps into a ship and they fight and noble kills him I this guy's name is Dan

[54:08] I only knew that from the captions

[54:10] He's a he's a local farmer. I guess who is involved a corn gunner

[54:15] They fake that their drop ship is injured so that they can be brought back into the dreadnought and saying

[54:21] Oh, we've taken hits. You've got to help us

[54:23] They weaponize the compassion and very real concern that the soldiers inside show for their injured comrades

[54:29] This is the most mercy or heartfeltness of any character in the movie. And it is the bad guys trying to

[54:36] administer medicine I did bump up a

[54:39] because I'm like

[54:41] Look, I understand that, you know, like they're part of a bad system and this happens in war all the time

[54:47] But in like narratively I was just like, oh these people like like are like med people who seem to care about like

[54:53] We'll get you we'll get you put back together, buddy

[54:55] Like that's what like yeah, it was not like we'll get you put back together and then you'll be back down there killing those rats

[55:02] Okay, fix them up so that we can throw them in the in the meat vats

[55:07] They're not like orcs they're not like Oh meats on the menu fellas, yeah, they're like they're like don't worry buddy

[55:12] We'll get you we'll get you patched up. We'll take good care of you and then I don't see any actual wounds

[55:17] And then our heroes just get up and slaughter them. Yeah. All right. Well, you really took advantage of their desire to help their fellow

[55:24] But that's war Dan, I mean that that's the thing in Star Wars actually

[55:28] I was gonna say in Star Wars the bad guys are all bad and the good guys are all good

[55:30] But this is more real but in Star Wars the bad guys are not all bad and the heroes kill them all anyway

[55:35] Yeah, we're fighting an army of forced child soldiers. Oh, that's too bad. I guess we have to blow them all up

[55:40] No, you don't have to but anyway on the ground battle battle battle fight fight

[55:44] But I mean when it's forced child soldiers versus like carnivorous

[55:48] Teddy bears, I feel like I'm gonna land on the side of the teddy bear. Yeah

[55:55] That's true, yeah

[55:57] Teddy bears have their picnic

[56:01] Well, we see we see them try to barbecue which one of them was it

[56:06] Yeah, yeah

[56:08] Flames out. It's great. It's technically a teddy bears

[56:12] But except and it wasn't fully beneath the trees it was the top of the trees right beneath the canopy

[56:17] But uh, so there's a lot of fighting. It's very somber very serious heavy strings choral music

[56:23] This movie is treating this battle between a fictional future space Empire and a fictional farming planet with all the seriousness

[56:31] it deserves the same concern is he would you would expend on a real battle that actually happened and

[56:36] The laser lady dies the heroes briefly think they have won

[56:39] Then the baddies send another wave of troops in with like a a stumpy laser tank mech. It's like a

[56:46] Walks on for stumpy legs and they act as if this is the scariest thing they've ever seen and it looks kind of adorable

[56:52] Like it looks really goofy. But mm-hmm. Yeah, it kind of looks like one of those like tiny water bears

[56:57] What are those tiny little grades? Yeah

[56:59] a big target with a laser on it

[57:02] Core and Gunnar they're on the dreadnought

[57:03] they split up core is gonna go set explosive charges in the engine room on this big glowy piece of machinery that the

[57:09] Subtitle that the captions told me was called the neuro link

[57:13] and

[57:14] And Gunnar supposed to go get a ship so they can escape battle battle battle

[57:18] The lady who's who was the lady who was upset that bloodaxe got killed in last movie. She blows up a mech tank

[57:25] noble, he's like, ah

[57:27] The scar givers on the ship. Mm-hmm lieutenants fire on the village and they're like, but our own soldiers are there

[57:32] He's like, I don't care just fire the can and destroy them all but what about the grain?

[57:36] Well, if we kill our own men, we'll have fewer mouths to feed won't we cuz all he cares about is getting Cora

[57:41] Battle battle battle the Space Prince. Remember him?

[57:44] He gets a little speech about not wanting to die in battle, but he will if he has to it's the least necessary

[57:48] Speech I've ever seen in a war movie ever

[57:51] Another tank mech shows up but James the robot Jimmy the robot shows in more solemn of men's choral singing to

[57:58] This to justify celebrate the sacred moment when a robot starts fighting a tank

[58:04] And blows up a take when he when Jimmy gets shot

[58:07] So there's like goo that glowy goo that comes out

[58:12] I couldn't tell whether that's plasma from the weapon that is on him or whether it's like melting robot blood

[58:19] But either way it didn't seem to really hurt

[58:23] Because he just wipes it off

[58:24] It doesn't yeah, you know and again as a as a metal as a military robot the hardest of hardened killers

[58:30] He does a lot of punching and flipping guys flipping guys over

[58:33] the eventually he gets a gun he shoots people so

[58:37] Back up the dreadnought gunnar has started the escape ship, but Cora gets found by Admiral noble

[58:42] You know, I kept wanting to call Admiral nibbles, but it's

[58:45] Yeah

[58:46] They fight a pet name

[58:48] Yeah

[58:48] The dreadnought is about to fire its can at the at the village when the bombs the engine room go off it takes these guys

[58:54] Forever to recognize that there are bombs covering the engine. They're just with a neural link or whatever

[58:59] They're just looking at them and it's not too

[59:00] I mean the neural links the last place you check for bombs

[59:03] That's true

[59:03] Even though you'd know that Cora was just in the engine room

[59:06] Do you like that the engine room of this space dreadnought is like an old-timey steamship?

[59:11] There are guys with shovels shoveling coal into the furnaces, which is a

[59:17] I like it less when Cora just starts murdering them and they're fighting her and it's like we have a laser gun

[59:21] They've shovels like this is you're not again. You're not the hero in this situation. But the but I do like that

[59:26] I do like that idea. That's a nice anachronistic idea

[59:29] The bombs go off it knocks the trajectory of the shot off. So the cannons don't hit the village

[59:34] They just hit I guess the village on the other side of the planet

[59:37] It's like a whole planet where there's just like 40 people who live in a village together and there's nobody else there

[59:42] as

[59:43] The dreadnought falls from the sky Cora has her rematch with noble it goes on for a long time

[59:50] This is a long fight and not in a fun. They live long fight way

[59:53] I found it just to me and kind of numbing. Yeah, they're still fighting in a way eventually

[1:00:00] Noble is choking Korra, which allows Gunnar to stab him with a laser sword, and then she chops his head off.

[1:00:05] Hopefully never to be revived again.

[1:00:07] They escape the crashing dreadnought in a dropship that they also crash, and Gunnar is badly injured, and he's like,

[1:00:13] Korra, I love you.

[1:00:15] And a fleet of rebel ships, led by Debra Bloodaxe, they come in, they start fighting all the bad guy fighters, and

[1:00:22] There's one alien.

[1:00:23] There's one alien. Yeah, everyone cheers.

[1:00:25] Thank God Debra Bloodaxe is here.

[1:00:27] Yeah.

[1:00:28] The character that I definitely remember existed.

[1:00:31] Yeah.

[1:00:32] I mean, it's a character, more of a name than anything.

[1:00:34] Yeah, and Gunnar dies while Korra cries.

[1:00:37] Now, just to clarify, Debra Bloodaxe is not related to the Bloodaxe clan of space orcs.

[1:00:43] That's a completely different thing, although they are kind of rebellious.

[1:00:46] Thank you for making that clear.

[1:00:47] Now, what about Moon Bloodgood? Are they related?

[1:00:51] That's a really cool actor's name.

[1:00:53] Yeah, okay.

[1:00:55] Blood is good, guys.

[1:00:57] You need it.

[1:00:58] It keeps us alive.

[1:00:59] It's very good, yeah.

[1:01:00] I mean, it goes far beyond good, just necessary.

[1:01:02] Wow, I didn't realize I was doing a podcast with a couple of Draculas.

[1:01:06] It's good to have in your body.

[1:01:08] Vampire PSA, blood's good.

[1:01:10] I'm Dracula for blood. Does the body good?

[1:01:13] And then he has a blood mustache, yeah.

[1:01:17] There's a commercial where a kid vampire is looking at his future self in the mirror,

[1:01:22] and his girlfriend shows up in the mirror, and he goes like, oh, I better drink this blood now.

[1:01:25] It's going to get strong.

[1:01:26] Get strong.

[1:01:27] Only 90s kids will remember, or 80s.

[1:01:30] I can't remember what that was.

[1:01:31] He wouldn't even show up in the fucking mirror, dude.

[1:01:33] He's a vampire.

[1:01:34] Yeah, he's a vampire.

[1:01:35] Actually, he shouldn't be looking in the mirror, yeah.

[1:01:36] So the villagers – so they win.

[1:01:39] A bunch of people die.

[1:01:40] The villagers hold a funeral pyre for those who died, and Korra admits to everybody.

[1:01:43] She's like, I lied about who I was.

[1:01:45] I assassinated the princess.

[1:01:46] And Titus goes, I always knew, but you didn't assassinate the princess because she's still alive.

[1:01:51] And I figured I wasn't going to tell you until this was all over.

[1:01:55] And Titus says –

[1:01:57] I need you to be powered by regret.

[1:01:59] Distract you.

[1:02:00] I figured you wouldn't fight as well if you didn't think you had something to prove.

[1:02:04] He says, your mission now is to find the princess and fight.

[1:02:07] And people are like, I'll find the princess and fight alongside you.

[1:02:10] And they say the phrase find her and fight so many times.

[1:02:13] They go find her and fight.

[1:02:15] Find her and fight?

[1:02:17] Even James the Robot and Korra goes to find her and fight and accepts her quest.

[1:02:22] That's the end of part two.

[1:02:24] Now, here's the thing.

[1:02:25] I thought that this was originally a trilogy, and I was like, okay, so part three will be finding the princess.

[1:02:30] No, no, no.

[1:02:31] This was originally a trilogy, and they split part one into two parts, and they plan to do the same for the other parts of the trilogy.

[1:02:37] So this will be a six-chapter series.

[1:02:39] So who knows when they'll find this princess if they ever finish this thing.

[1:02:42] Guys, from what you've seen, do you think this will carry a six-movie series?

[1:02:46] Well, I mean, here's the thing.

[1:02:48] If they keep going at this rate, maybe by the sixth movie, I'll kind of like that one.

[1:02:55] I'll just barely edge its way into likability.

[1:02:58] But I don't think this would –

[1:02:59] It's kind of like the Saw franchise where if you watch enough of them, you're like, I hate these.

[1:03:04] But there's something about the way they do the big reveal at the end with the music that I can't help but love.

[1:03:12] Yeah, I tried to get on that train.

[1:03:16] It didn't happen.

[1:03:17] I don't recommend it.

[1:03:19] I was only able to do it, I think, because I was like bedridden for two days.

[1:03:24] So I'm like, I'm going to make my life worse.

[1:03:26] You're like, what would Jigsaw do to me in this situation?

[1:03:28] He'd make me watch the Saw movies when I can't leave my bed.

[1:03:31] Yeah.

[1:03:32] I heard you were doing that.

[1:03:33] I'm like, I'm a follower.

[1:03:34] Maybe I'll do that too, and then Stu and I can talk about Saw.

[1:03:36] Then I'm like, no.

[1:03:38] I like to watch that.

[1:03:39] I'm like, no thanks.

[1:03:40] Dan, you're not just a follower.

[1:03:42] You can be a leader sometimes too.

[1:03:44] Thank you, friends.

[1:03:46] No, I don't think that this – I don't think these movies were like particularly successful for Netflix.

[1:03:52] I mean certainly based on the budget that they had.

[1:03:56] I mean these movies are – I don't understand why.

[1:03:59] I mean Netflix just announced another movie that they're spending like $300 million on.

[1:04:03] It's one of those things where it's like Netflix, you will not be able to get that money back.

[1:04:07] Well, not this way.

[1:04:09] You've already dipped your finger – dipped your finger?

[1:04:13] Dipped your toe in like –

[1:04:14] Dipped something.

[1:04:15] You dipped something in like the world of theatrical distribution because you put things out just to get like –

[1:04:22] For awards, yeah.

[1:04:23] Awards qualifying runs or whatever.

[1:04:26] I don't know.

[1:04:27] If you're going to do this blockbuster shit, why not actually put them out in theaters where movies still can make money and then you are vertically integrated or whatever so you can be like –

[1:04:39] And then once it's done, you can only see it on Netflix.

[1:04:43] That's going to be its home.

[1:04:44] I don't understand the model where we're like we're going to do blockbusters but just for –

[1:04:52] Something like Rebel Moon Part 3 I don't think is going to get people to be like, what's this Netflix thing?

[1:05:00] Yeah, I got to subscribe to this thing so I can see the third Rebel Moon.

[1:05:03] Now, here's the thing.

[1:05:04] So this movie – so according to Wikipedia, the budget for the two movies together was $166 million.

[1:05:09] That's a lot of money, but that's not as much as I thought it was.

[1:05:11] To get two movies out of that is not bad, but to get these two movies out of it is a mistake to me.

[1:05:17] It's always bad.

[1:05:18] The whole concept behind this was what?

[1:05:20] I'm going to give you a more mature, harder-edged version of Star Wars, right?

[1:05:25] And instead of anything, I find it less mature and less harder-edged than Star Wars.

[1:05:31] It's so – it feels so meaningless.

[1:05:34] It's so fluffy and meaningless.

[1:05:35] It's like a Styrofoam movie, and the – it just feels very – it feels weird that someone like Zack Snyder who can make whatever he wants, this is what he does.

[1:05:45] It feels very lazy.

[1:05:46] Like, yo, do you guys remember when Anakin killed all those younglings?

[1:05:49] That was brutal.

[1:05:51] Talk about hard-edged.

[1:05:52] Now, if it was a Styrofoam movie though, like a sort of Michel Gondry version of Rebel Moon, I might like that.

[1:05:58] I might be on, yeah.

[1:05:59] If it was made – everything was really made out of Styrofoam.

[1:06:01] But like when she cuts her – she's like, I had to cut my hands off to put robot hands on.

[1:06:06] It's like, yeah, I saw that in Star Wars, and it was a lot harder-edged when a guy cut his son's hand off while they were fighting.

[1:06:14] Like there's – it feels very – it feels maybe that they're not accomplishing their stated mission with this movie.

[1:06:21] I think that's fair.

[1:06:22] Let's get into final judgments whether it's a good, bad movie, a bad, bad movie, or a movie we kind of like.

[1:06:29] Again, it's a Rebel Moon movie.

[1:06:33] Even if I liked it slightly better personally than the last one, like being the best Rebel Moon movie is not –

[1:06:39] Jamming with free praise.

[1:06:41] I actually like this one less than the first one.

[1:06:43] Yeah.

[1:06:44] No, and I can see that too.

[1:06:45] I can see that version of it where it's like at least we see a bunch of different stuff in the first one than this one that kind of stays in one place.

[1:06:53] This is essentially one giant battle scene is almost – is the vast majority of the movie, and it's a very – it's not like – say what you will about the Lord of the Rings Hobbit movies where they're like – those battle scenes are inflated.

[1:07:05] But there's lots of different things going on.

[1:07:07] The characters are doing different stuff like –

[1:07:09] There's a dwarf riding a goat or whatever.

[1:07:11] Yeah, whereas this is just kind of the same stuff over and over again.

[1:07:13] It's all muted colors and kind of blah.

[1:07:17] Look, either way, bad, bad is my answer, but also like Zack Snyder is a guy where I feel like we shit on him a lot, and the thing is like I feel like he had potential.

[1:07:30] He had potential.

[1:07:31] I'm not like – like I think he could do a good movie, but he's gone so far down this road that is the wrong road, and he's not going to get – he's not going to get better because he's only been lauded for it by a bunch of weirdos on the internet.

[1:07:47] So I don't know.

[1:07:49] He definitely – like when he first came on the scene, like 300 was a movie that like I genuinely really liked a lot of.

[1:07:54] I thought the politics of it were kind of gross.

[1:07:57] Gross, yeah, but the –

[1:07:59] It was like, oh, I feel like I'm watching a movie that is just one heavy metal album cover after another like being shown at me, and I kind of like that.

[1:08:05] But then it was like the imagination of that gave way to like I'm just going to do this.

[1:08:10] I'm going to do the stylistic things over and over again, but not – yeah, not doing the different edits.

[1:08:14] And he was adapting a –

[1:08:16] He's adapting stuff.

[1:08:17] Something that existed that fit his style.

[1:08:20] That's one of his more successful – like the Dawn of the Dead is one of his more successful than that.

[1:08:24] It has a James Gunn script.

[1:08:25] I think that he needs collaborators.

[1:08:26] Say what you will about his Watchmen, which is not a great movie, but it certainly is – I certainly like it more than his recent stuff.

[1:08:33] And I think you're right.

[1:08:34] Maybe he's a guy who can bring an extreme style to an adaptation but is not at his best with original material.

[1:08:41] Oh, I'm going to say it's a bad, bad movie.

[1:08:44] I think – it's tough to say which Rebel Moon I like better or less.

[1:08:49] At least like the first one kind of has a twist, so that's I guess kind of interesting.

[1:08:55] And there were more aliens, so I guess –

[1:08:57] What's the twist?

[1:08:58] Well, that Charlie Hunnam was betrayed.

[1:09:00] Oh, yeah, that's true.

[1:09:01] There's a betrayal, yeah.

[1:09:02] So there's like some friction between characters.

[1:09:07] There's a character that we don't know if they're good or bad.

[1:09:10] I am going to – it's strange when I'm not on the same page as you guys, but love it 100 percent.

[1:09:16] Great movie.

[1:09:17] Wow, weird.

[1:09:18] My favorite of the year.

[1:09:19] It's going to be hard to beat.

[1:09:20] It's top of my list.

[1:09:21] No, I also think it's a bad, bad movie.

[1:09:23] I found it to be so – it's just so like boring, and there's no – it's so unimaginative.

[1:09:31] And I feel like I've wasted a little bit of the time I have – limited time I have to spend on this earth watching it.

[1:09:40] And my only – the only thing that puts a smile on my face is that the movies that I watched right before this meant so much to me that I'm like, okay, good.

[1:09:50] At least my average is I'm watching more movies that are interesting than movies like this in my life.

[1:09:56] So I'm going to give it a –

[1:09:57] You watched like what? Leonard Part VI?

[1:09:59] Yeah, Leonard Part VI.

[1:10:00] Ex-Ghost Dad, all the Bill Cosby movies.

[1:10:02] He's great.

[1:10:03] Anyway, what's he been up to?

[1:10:04] I haven't checked the news on him in about 30 years.

[1:10:07] Oh, no.

[1:10:08] No, he's terrible.

[1:10:09] He's a monster.

[1:10:10] But yeah, I would say, so definitely,

[1:10:12] crawl, don't run.

[1:10:14] Crawl.

[1:10:15] Revelmoon, part two.

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[1:12:03] You're gonna be in one of those pyramids of water skiers.

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[1:12:10] You gotta do it.

[1:12:11] You gotta, like, then you gotta, I don't know,

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[1:12:18] You both manage the pool and you gotta swim in there.

[1:12:21] Yeah, I mean, that's why you manage it,

[1:12:22] so you can get that time in.

[1:12:24] Dan, have you ever experienced a summer?

[1:12:26] I'm not sure, but the point is you gotta do-

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[1:12:46] See, that's where that was all leading, to Factor.

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[1:13:51] It was a nice break when I had one of these

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[1:13:59] or however I chose to reheat that day.

[1:14:02] We were sent Factor meals,

[1:14:04] and I only got to have a little bit of it

[1:14:06] because my wife tried one and was like,

[1:14:08] okay, well, this is what I'm gonna have for lunch

[1:14:10] at work every day now.

[1:14:12] And so she enjoyed them a lot.

[1:14:14] I liked the ones I had, you know.

[1:14:16] But that shows you that if you get them,

[1:14:19] it's like the Trix rabbit or something is around.

[1:14:22] It might try to take them from you

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[1:14:25] So if you're interested,

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[1:14:47] And I actually think that's all we got to plug

[1:14:49] unless Elliot, you got something.

[1:14:50] I think I like that the code is flop50

[1:14:52] because it means that we're gonna be doing the show

[1:14:54] for 50 years, baby.

[1:14:55] Yeah, you know it.

[1:14:56] Woo, woo.

[1:14:58] I don't know if you want to mention Hercules

[1:15:00] or something on those.

[1:15:01] Yeah, I just want to remind people

[1:15:02] that my Hercules comic series from Dynamite Comics

[1:15:04] is in comic book stores now.

[1:15:07] As this episode is coming out,

[1:15:08] I think the fourth issue is about to come out.

[1:15:11] It's Further Adventures for Disney's Hercules.

[1:15:14] You know him from the movie Hercules,

[1:15:16] and now he's starring in the comic book Hercules.

[1:15:19] And it's all gonna,

[1:15:20] I'm writing the final issue of it right now actually.

[1:15:23] And the individual stories are gonna build

[1:15:26] until it gets to a big epic conclusion.

[1:15:29] And don't worry, you're gonna get to know

[1:15:31] each of these characters before the big epic conclusion.

[1:15:34] So you're gonna care about them when it happens.

[1:15:37] Was writing these issues laborious?

[1:15:40] Oh.

[1:15:41] Oh, because of Hercules, right?

[1:15:43] It actually wasn't.

[1:15:44] I'm having a lot of fun writing it.

[1:15:45] Now, Elliot, I don't want to depress

[1:15:48] sales of individual issues.

[1:15:50] Yeah, thanks, I appreciate it.

[1:15:51] But will these ever be collected?

[1:15:53] This is just for my personal interests.

[1:15:55] I believe they will be collected,

[1:15:57] but modern comics today,

[1:15:58] often the sales of individual issues

[1:16:00] will justify the sale of a collection.

[1:16:02] So I hope it sells well enough

[1:16:04] that it can be collected in the future,

[1:16:06] because I think it'll read really well as a collection.

[1:16:09] But it also reads well month to month.

[1:16:11] And then hopefully it'll come out

[1:16:12] in some big oversized artist format

[1:16:16] with little notes in the margins

[1:16:18] by Elliot Kaelin and the artist.

[1:16:20] Oh, man.

[1:16:22] And I also want to mention,

[1:16:23] I do another podcast,

[1:16:24] 99% Invisible Breakdown,

[1:16:26] The Power Broker with Roman Mars.

[1:16:27] We're breaking down the greatest book

[1:16:28] about municipal corruption

[1:16:31] and also municipal infrastructure

[1:16:32] ever written, The Power Broker.

[1:16:33] Go on over to the 99% Invisible feed,

[1:16:35] but finish this episode first.

[1:16:37] Yeah, don't get confused, people.

[1:16:39] Here's the thing.

[1:16:40] Similar stuff, similar levels of content.

[1:16:43] It's kind of its own podcast,

[1:16:46] but it is within the 99% Invisible feed.

[1:16:50] It's all the same feed.

[1:16:52] I thought you were going to say

[1:16:52] it's kind of like the flop house.

[1:16:54] Well, kind of it.

[1:16:55] I mean, I'm amazed at how, honestly,

[1:16:59] the degree to,

[1:17:00] the number of silly jokes you get in there

[1:17:03] that Roman allows,

[1:17:05] and not only allows, but laughs at.

[1:17:07] He likes it, yeah.

[1:17:08] Amazes me.

[1:17:09] Against all odds.

[1:17:10] Yep, I still want to make it fun and entertaining.

[1:17:12] I mean, that book is amazing,

[1:17:13] but got to make it entertaining.

[1:17:15] And it's like I get to take over

[1:17:17] the 99% Invisible feed once a month

[1:17:19] and tell people the greatest bedtime story ever told,

[1:17:22] the life of Robert Moses.

[1:17:27] Let us go on to letters from listeners.

[1:17:29] Listeners like you, perhaps,

[1:17:31] did you write this letter?

[1:17:32] This letter is from Monty, last name withheld.

[1:17:35] So if you're Monty, maybe you wrote this letter.

[1:17:37] And I apologize right at the top.

[1:17:39] There are going to be a couple of Russian names in here

[1:17:42] that I probably will not say correctly.

[1:17:44] And perhaps my friends can help me with them,

[1:17:48] or maybe no one knows.

[1:17:49] But anyway.

[1:17:50] It's pronounced Boris Bedenov, Dan.

[1:17:54] Monty, last name withheld.

[1:17:55] Right.

[1:17:56] Xenia Anatov.

[1:17:59] She was Anatov, wasn't she?

[1:18:04] Normally you're, sorry,

[1:18:05] I was just thinking of a James Bond villain

[1:18:07] called Boys on the Side.

[1:18:09] Anyway.

[1:18:11] Normally your podcast is my go-to for accurate

[1:18:14] Russian revolutionary history.

[1:18:16] So you can imagine my dismay when the episode for Argyle,

[1:18:19] Elliot repeatedly referred to the anarchist hacker character

[1:18:22] as Bukharin.

[1:18:24] I thought this might have been a screenwriting goof,

[1:18:27] but IMDb confirms the character's actually called Bakunin.

[1:18:32] As I hardly need to tell you,

[1:18:34] Bakunin was an anarchist philosopher and political theorist

[1:18:38] and political rival of Karl Marx,

[1:18:40] while Bukharin was a Bolshevik and leading economist

[1:18:44] of the Soviet Union.

[1:18:45] However, it's understandable these two might get mixed up.

[1:18:47] Their names sound similar,

[1:18:48] and both have a lot to do with the question of Marxism

[1:18:50] and the peasantry in Russia.

[1:18:53] Bakunin, again, I don't know if I'm saying this right,

[1:18:55] believed Marxism would lead to a minority dictatorship

[1:18:58] of industrial workers over the peasantry,

[1:19:00] while Bukharin knew economic policy was in part driven

[1:19:05] by the need to shore up the worker-peasant alliance,

[1:19:08] which had been strained by the extremities of civil war.

[1:19:11] I'm sure this is a one-time slip up,

[1:19:13] and you'll be back to the usual high level

[1:19:15] of academic rigor the Flophouse is known for in no time.

[1:19:18] That's from Monty.

[1:19:19] So-

[1:19:20] Thank you for the correction, Monty.

[1:19:20] I apologize.

[1:19:21] That's exactly it.

[1:19:22] I just got their names mixed up.

[1:19:24] And I do get them mixed up,

[1:19:25] probably because they were both wrong.

[1:19:26] It ended up turning into a dictatorship of one dude

[1:19:30] over everybody.

[1:19:31] And I gotta say, thank you for sending in a correction

[1:19:34] and still listening to the show

[1:19:35] and having the patience for us to be better.

[1:19:37] Yeah, not throwing your phone into a lake

[1:19:39] because of our lack of accurate-

[1:19:42] I mean, it hurts you more than anything else.

[1:19:43] You just gotta get a new phone.

[1:19:44] It's just like in Goodfellas.

[1:19:45] It's true.

[1:19:46] They'd spit on the ground, spit on their own carpets

[1:19:48] when the FBI would come by.

[1:19:50] I can't imagine that, spitting on your own carpet.

[1:19:52] Yeah, that is why we...

[1:19:55] So this is from Andrew, last name withheld.

[1:19:59] Who writes?

[1:20:00] Andrew W.K.

[1:20:02] Oh man, let's prepare for some good party vibes.

[1:20:06] Hi peaches.

[1:20:08] We wanted to thank you for not one, but two recent references to our favorite obscure creature, the tapir.

[1:20:15] It may feel like a tossed aside remark to you, but our hearts flood with joy when you hear you mention these strange, ancient things that are

[1:20:24] not quite an elephant, not quite a donkey, but man.

[1:20:29] Anyway, we even live and work in the rainforest with field biologists who hear the word tapir and have no idea what we're talking about,

[1:20:37] or when we show them photos of our tapir friend at the animal rescue, they are somewhat rightfully confused about what they're looking at.

[1:20:44] So we really appreciate the representation.

[1:20:47] Since you all seem to be feller, fellow, sorry, fellers.

[1:20:51] We are fellers.

[1:20:52] Good fellers.

[1:20:54] We're not good fellers.

[1:20:56] Good fellers.

[1:20:58] What would that be like, sort of a farm mafia?

[1:21:02] Good fellers would be like a rural mob.

[1:21:04] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1:21:05] Like a justified type mob, yeah.

[1:21:06] Uh-huh.

[1:21:07] Like we're living in a holler.

[1:21:08] TM, TM, TM.

[1:21:10] Since you all seem to be...

[1:21:11] Damn it, Dan.

[1:21:12] What are you, TM-ing justified?

[1:21:13] I hate to bring it to you.

[1:21:15] Since you all seem to be fellow tapir connoisseurs, we have also created a tapir-tacular television and film quiz for your enjoyment.

[1:21:25] So I'm glad that we had a plot light movie so we could get to this quiz, which I actually cut from a previous episode at the time.

[1:21:33] So here we go.

[1:21:35] Tapir quiz, question one.

[1:21:37] There are at least four movies featuring tapirs that have been nominated for an Oscar, two have won Oscars.

[1:21:43] Which are they?

[1:21:44] Further hint, winners from 1968, 2022, and nom from 1974 and 2006.

[1:21:54] Out of Africa.

[1:21:55] Well, it didn't win, but there's a tapir in 2001, A Space Odyssey.

[1:21:59] That's one of them.

[1:22:00] Okay.

[1:22:01] And that's it.

[1:22:02] I don't know.

[1:22:03] I don't know the others.

[1:22:04] So we got 2001, A Space Odyssey.

[1:22:06] Is there a tapir on board the Titanic?

[1:22:10] Could be in the crowd scenes.

[1:22:12] Despite the fact that Africa is one of the only continents tapirs never existed on, they needed a weird prehistoric creature that looks like a food source that current people didn't really know about to interact with their early humans.

[1:22:24] So that accounts for them in 2001.

[1:22:26] And Papillon or Papillon.

[1:22:30] There's a tapir in Papillon?

[1:22:32] I've seen that one.

[1:22:33] Yeah.

[1:22:34] There's a clip of a sleepy tapir knocking over its own water bucket.

[1:22:37] It's pretty cute.

[1:22:40] They said YouTube.

[1:22:42] Apocalypto, they say that they never saw this, but know that there is an extended scene about eating tapir balls.

[1:22:50] Oh, that's right.

[1:22:51] Okay.

[1:22:52] That's right.

[1:22:53] Because they trick him into doing it as like a prank.

[1:22:54] That's right.

[1:22:55] They're hazing him.

[1:22:56] Yeah.

[1:22:57] And apparently in Canto, there also are some animated ones.

[1:23:00] I remember the tapir in Canto.

[1:23:01] Well, Dan, I'm going to ask you to forward me this email.

[1:23:03] Okay.

[1:23:04] Because listeners, I don't remember if I mentioned it, but tapirs are big in my household because they are my younger son's favorite animal.

[1:23:09] We talk about tapirs a lot.

[1:23:11] He is a big fan of the tapir at the LA Zoo who is named Mojito.

[1:23:16] I bet he's got some pretty good vibes right there.

[1:23:20] He must.

[1:23:21] Yeah.

[1:23:22] He's a pretty laid-back tapir.

[1:23:23] I mean most tapirs are pretty laid-back.

[1:23:24] And there's a tapir in Nashville that there's a picture book about.

[1:23:28] And so my younger son is always like, can we go to Nashville someday?

[1:23:32] And I'm like, yeah, I've heard it's a real fun city.

[1:23:34] He goes, I really want to meet that tapir.

[1:23:36] So to him, Nashville is tapir city.

[1:23:38] There are two other questions and a bonus.

[1:23:40] They're shorter than that first one.

[1:23:41] Okay.

[1:23:42] But forward me this email when the episode is over.

[1:23:44] There is one NSFW video attached to this.

[1:23:50] With a tapir in it?

[1:23:51] Well, we'll get into it.

[1:23:53] And we'll show them that one.

[1:23:54] In some cultures, tapirs represent a mythological creature called a baku or mo.

[1:24:00] According to legend, they were created by the spare pieces that were left over when the gods finished creating all other animals.

[1:24:06] And it devours human dreams.

[1:24:09] The sad movie Hello Tapir from 2020 features a relationship between a young boy and bakus and was made in what country?

[1:24:19] What country?

[1:24:20] The answer, I see it on your face.

[1:24:24] You don't have it, is Taiwan.

[1:24:26] I was just trying to remember what countries tapirs show up in because they're only in Asia and South America, right?

[1:24:33] In fucking Nashville, dude.

[1:24:35] Well, I mean, that's in a zoo.

[1:24:38] By Malaysian director Ketsvin Lee.

[1:24:42] I probably butchered that, but that's what I can do.

[1:24:45] Prince Caspian, yeah.

[1:24:47] Question three.

[1:24:49] There's a Pokemon modeled after a baku tapir.

[1:24:52] Which is it?

[1:24:53] And for extreme bonus points, which film does it appear in?

[1:24:56] I mean, one of the Pokemon movies, I assume.

[1:24:58] I assume it wasn't Detective Pikachu.

[1:25:02] Any idea which?

[1:25:03] It wasn't Drive-In Dolls, right?

[1:25:06] Well, it's Drive-Away Dolls.

[1:25:08] Oh, yeah.

[1:25:09] Drive-In Dolls is when they go to movies.

[1:25:11] Have you caught them all?

[1:25:12] Do you know which one this is from your Pokemon training?

[1:25:17] I don't know.

[1:25:18] Is it Snorlax?

[1:25:19] That sounds right.

[1:25:20] Pretty close.

[1:25:21] It's Drowzee.

[1:25:24] Was I right?

[1:25:25] Is it Detective Pikachu?

[1:25:26] No.

[1:25:27] Drowzee appears in the 2019 remake of Pokemon Muto Strikes Back Evolution.

[1:25:32] Right.

[1:25:33] I was gonna say Pokemon Muto Strikes Back Remake.

[1:25:36] I think Muto was involved somewhere, yeah.

[1:25:39] Muto's the one with the big ol' ass, right?

[1:25:42] Yes, and a long tail, and big feet, like a kangaroo bottom.

[1:25:46] Dan, you gotta check this one out.

[1:25:48] That's probably the NSFW element of this.

[1:25:51] Except Muto, it's not the sexiest Pokemon, who we all know is,

[1:25:55] because I did a presentation about this not too long ago.

[1:25:57] What?

[1:25:58] Salazzle.

[1:25:59] Okay.

[1:26:00] Look at the pictures of her on her cards, and you're like,

[1:26:02] so is this Pokemon coming onto me?

[1:26:04] Like, what's going on?

[1:26:05] Wait, hold on.

[1:26:06] How do you spell this?

[1:26:07] Salazzle?

[1:26:08] It's just like it sounds.

[1:26:09] S-A-L-A-Z-Z-L-E.

[1:26:10] Oh, I got it right first time.

[1:26:12] Amazing.

[1:26:13] Yeah, this looks like a seductive Pokemon.

[1:26:16] Oh, someone on the free site, it looks like, drew it doing a split.

[1:26:20] So that, yeah.

[1:26:22] Drowzee appears in the 2019 remake of Pokemon Muto Strikes Back Evolution.

[1:26:28] In the remake, the pirate trainer who battles Ash has a Drowzee instead of a Gollum.

[1:26:35] This change, or Gollum, this change may have been made to fix a continuity error

[1:26:40] from the original movie where Pikachu defeats Gollum with a Thunderbolt,

[1:26:44] even though Gollum is a ground type and should be immune to electric attacks.

[1:26:48] So are we not talking about tapirs anymore?

[1:26:49] What's going on in this letter?

[1:26:50] No, we're just talking about, we'll get back to the tapirs.

[1:26:52] We may need a heavier editorial hand in this one.

[1:26:54] Okay, well, okay, bonus question.

[1:26:56] This isn't movie related.

[1:26:57] Oh, perfect.

[1:26:59] But tapirs are the mammal with the largest what compared to body size?

[1:27:05] The largest what compared to body size?

[1:27:10] I mean, the thing is they've got like a little trunk, but it shouldn't be that

[1:27:13] because I imagine elephants still have a bigger nose to body size, right?

[1:27:17] Uh-huh.

[1:27:18] Well, let's recall that I warned that something may not be safe for work.

[1:27:23] And that is indeed.

[1:27:24] Anus?

[1:27:25] There's a video included here.

[1:27:28] The penis is fully the same length as the leg.

[1:27:32] It is a real fifth leg situation.

[1:27:35] So it can lift itself up on it.

[1:27:37] Oh, I didn't know that.

[1:27:39] Probably, yeah.

[1:27:40] Jacking with a tapir penis means a different thing.

[1:27:44] It's like a collar jack.

[1:27:46] Anyway, so that's our letter section.

[1:27:50] Oh, wow.

[1:27:51] Really good one.

[1:27:52] Tapirs and Pokemon.

[1:27:53] It really did.

[1:27:54] I think that's a lot of good information.

[1:27:56] A lot of good information that I'm going to share with my son.

[1:27:58] Maybe not the last part.

[1:28:00] I mean, it's kind of the most fascinating part in a way.

[1:28:04] I don't know if it's necessarily going to be the most fascinating to him.

[1:28:07] Let's recommend movies, movies that we watched that might be a better use of your time.

[1:28:13] I'll kick us off with the other movie that I teased before.

[1:28:17] Before we watched Fair Game, we watched a movie that shares a title with another slightly more famous movie.

[1:28:29] Even though that one also was not that successful.

[1:28:32] But it's not that one.

[1:28:34] It's called Last Man Standing from 1995.

[1:28:37] It is not the, I think, 1994 Bruce Willis movie.

[1:28:42] Walter Hill, yeah.

[1:28:44] Yeah, it's not that one.

[1:28:45] This one, it was a direct-to-video action film.

[1:28:50] This was the Tim Allen sitcom, Last Man Standing?

[1:28:52] Yeah.

[1:28:54] Dan's recommending a sitcom.

[1:28:56] Classic Dan.

[1:28:58] Dan doesn't play by the rules.

[1:29:00] Yeah.

[1:29:01] That was the sitcom that the liberals were frightened of, right?

[1:29:04] Yeah.

[1:29:05] Yeah, exactly.

[1:29:06] No, this one stars Jeff Wincott.

[1:29:09] It has a sort of brief supporting role from Jonathan Banks.

[1:29:16] Of course, beloved character actor Jonathan Banks.

[1:29:19] And?

[1:29:20] Oh, and it has a – who is it?

[1:29:22] Jonathan Fuller, aka Georgio from Castle Freak, baby.

[1:29:27] Yeah, but I was amazed by this movie basically because in terms of practical stunt action sequences.

[1:29:38] It has some really, really fun ones, really impressive ones.

[1:29:42] Particularly with the direct-to-video budget they must have been working with.

[1:29:46] They have a scene where they do a reverse on the L.A. freeway chase that is –

[1:29:53] it is no shame to say it is not as good as To Live and Die in L.A.,

[1:29:58] but it gives it a run for its money.

[1:30:00] on a DTV budget, I was really impressed by it.

[1:30:03] And it also, it kicks off with a chase sequence

[1:30:06] where so much glass is just broken unnecessarily.

[1:30:12] Like any pane of glass you see in the frame

[1:30:15] will be broken by this.

[1:30:17] I do think run for its money is a good alternate title

[1:30:20] for to live and die in LA.

[1:30:22] Yeah.

[1:30:24] Anyway, it's probably a little hard to track down.

[1:30:27] I don't know, maybe it's on Tubi or something,

[1:30:29] but Last Man Standing, 1995.

[1:30:31] I think I threw it up on Just Watch

[1:30:33] and it was like rentable somewhere, maybe.

[1:30:35] It's, I mean, it's a lot of fun.

[1:30:37] It's a tight 96 minutes.

[1:30:39] It has a really wacky closing freeze frame.

[1:30:43] If that's the kind of thing you like, you'll like it.

[1:30:45] You're speaking my language, Dan.

[1:30:47] When, as soon as he texted,

[1:30:49] Dan texted me immediately after watching it, I'm assuming.

[1:30:51] Yeah.

[1:30:52] I was hooked.

[1:30:53] I was like, this is for Stu.

[1:30:54] I know Stu loves his direct to video action.

[1:30:59] I'm gonna recommend a movie

[1:31:00] that unfortunately is basically going straight to video

[1:31:03] because not enough of you people went out and saw it.

[1:31:05] I'm gonna recommend George Miller's Furiosa, a Mad Max saga.

[1:31:10] Have you guys seen Furiosa yet?

[1:31:11] I did see Furiosa.

[1:31:12] I did indeed.

[1:31:13] If there's a movie I'm gonna make time

[1:31:14] to go see in the theater.

[1:31:15] It's a George Miller Mad Max movie, for sure.

[1:31:17] And it's, man, it's so much fun.

[1:31:19] George Miller understands that like,

[1:31:21] that's why you go to the fucking movies, man.

[1:31:23] And it's like, it's not quite Fury Road.

[1:31:25] It's not like the tightness of very singular,

[1:31:28] linear action sequence of a movie, but it's, yeah,

[1:31:33] it's great.

[1:31:34] And you see stuff you haven't seen before

[1:31:35] and edge of your seat, nonstop high octane thrill ride.

[1:31:39] And Chris Hemsworth is having the time of his life.

[1:31:43] Yeah, I was a big fan.

[1:31:44] This is my favorite of his performances by far.

[1:31:46] Yeah.

[1:31:47] In this movie.

[1:31:48] I said something similar to this on Letterboxd,

[1:31:50] but I feel like I saw a lot of sort of like grumbles

[1:31:52] of like, and I'm not, you know, like you liked it.

[1:31:55] So I'm not saying this to you,

[1:31:56] but like a lot of grumbles of like,

[1:31:58] well, it's no Fury Road.

[1:31:59] And my reaction was like,

[1:32:00] oh, it's not one of the best action movies ever.

[1:32:04] It's just fucking amazing.

[1:32:06] Boo hoo.

[1:32:07] Boo hoo.

[1:32:07] And it's different.

[1:32:08] No movie set in that world is gonna pack the punch

[1:32:11] that Fury Road had where it felt like

[1:32:13] this thing is coming out of nowhere

[1:32:14] and you just don't expect how intense

[1:32:16] and how amazing it is.

[1:32:17] But it's still great.

[1:32:18] I think the movie wisely doesn't try to be

[1:32:20] in the same vein.

[1:32:21] It's like, let's do something else within this universe.

[1:32:25] But it feels like it's within,

[1:32:26] it's a different thing in that universe,

[1:32:28] but it still feels of a piece with that universe.

[1:32:30] It doesn't feel like now he forgot

[1:32:31] what was good about Fury Road.

[1:32:33] And it's just, it's worth seeing,

[1:32:34] if only just to see all the costumes look amazing,

[1:32:37] the different vehicles will look amazing.

[1:32:39] But you're like, well, I've seen every vehicle

[1:32:41] they can throw at me.

[1:32:42] And then by the end of the movie,

[1:32:43] they're riding a motorcycle that's made out

[1:32:45] of a mannequin torso.

[1:32:46] And you're like, what?

[1:32:47] Yeah, you're like, oh yeah.

[1:32:49] Yeah, I've seen the Octoboss right around

[1:32:51] on his flying contraption.

[1:32:55] What about this guy?

[1:32:56] Have you seen this guy who's like flying

[1:32:58] like a kite from the back of a motorcycle?

[1:33:00] That's what I'm saying.

[1:33:01] I haven't seen it.

[1:33:02] It's yeah, I really love that movie.

[1:33:06] I would have recommended it,

[1:33:07] except I thought one of you had recommended it already.

[1:33:09] I guess not.

[1:33:10] I guess that's why it's not.

[1:33:11] I had to double check.

[1:33:12] Yeah.

[1:33:13] Yeah, because we didn't get the flop house bump.

[1:33:15] Yeah.

[1:33:16] On the other hand, I think it's gonna be what?

[1:33:18] Rentable or purchasable online soon, so.

[1:33:21] I mean, it'll live forever.

[1:33:22] It's not, it's, I mean, the thing is,

[1:33:23] Fury Road was not a huge hit when it came out.

[1:33:26] No, no, I mean, I don't,

[1:33:27] I feel like none of the Mad Max movies,

[1:33:29] except for maybe Road Warrior,

[1:33:30] like maybe the first two were hits,

[1:33:32] but like, luckily this one was subsidized

[1:33:35] so hugely by the Australian government

[1:33:37] that it did make a little bit of money.

[1:33:38] That's good.

[1:33:39] I feel like the, we are living in a world now

[1:33:41] where hit is no longer relative to budget.

[1:33:45] Instead, it's just huge numbers.

[1:33:46] So like Mad Max and Road Warrior,

[1:33:47] when they came out in the United States,

[1:33:48] Mad Max, Mad Max 2, as they're known in Australia,

[1:33:50] like they were surprise hits,

[1:33:52] but it wasn't like they were

[1:33:53] in the top five movies of the year.

[1:33:55] They just made a lot of money compared to their budgets.

[1:33:57] Yeah.

[1:33:58] Well, also everything now is so tied to opening Wakened

[1:34:02] in a way that like is slowly killing the film industry.

[1:34:06] So like, yeah.

[1:34:08] Yeah.

[1:34:09] Longevity.

[1:34:10] This will have a long tail.

[1:34:11] Like Kelly had said, this is gonna live forever.

[1:34:12] It's a movie that I am really looking forward

[1:34:14] to re-watching soon and like discovering new things

[1:34:18] I missed the last time.

[1:34:19] Yeah.

[1:34:20] I missed them because I was in a theater

[1:34:22] where there were two people talking the entire movie.

[1:34:24] Oh, that's too bad.

[1:34:25] I was not, but I'm sure there's details I missed

[1:34:27] just because it's so packed with detail.

[1:34:30] You know, it's so, anyway, I'd really like to do,

[1:34:32] but that's not what I'm here to recommend.

[1:34:33] Oh, but I figured I'd like to recommend.

[1:34:36] So Rebel Moon is ostensibly a science fiction movie, right?

[1:34:39] Like it's supposed to be a sci-fi action epic.

[1:34:42] And I thought I'd recommend two movies

[1:34:45] that I saw recently, one I had not seen before,

[1:34:46] one I've seen many times that are also science fiction,

[1:34:49] but give you a different idea of what science fiction can do

[1:34:51] and are arguably better movies

[1:34:54] than Rebel Moon Part Two, The Scargiver.

[1:34:58] I'm intrigued.

[1:34:59] Dan, should I start with the movie

[1:35:00] that our viewers, listeners may not have seen,

[1:35:04] or should I start with the movie

[1:35:05] that our listeners have probably seen,

[1:35:06] but should watch again?

[1:35:07] Start with the probably seen and then go obscure.

[1:35:08] Okay, so on Father's Day,

[1:35:10] I went with my children and my wife.

[1:35:12] We went to the local movie theater, Vidiot's.

[1:35:15] They were showing a little movie called E.T.,

[1:35:17] The Extraterrestrial, which was at one point

[1:35:20] the most successful movie, dollar money-wise,

[1:35:23] in the history of movies.

[1:35:24] But a surprising number of people, I feel like,

[1:35:26] have not seen it in the years since then.

[1:35:29] And watching it again, I hadn't seen it in a couple years

[1:35:32] since we showed it to my older son.

[1:35:33] And watching it again-

[1:35:34] I assumed you hadn't seen it since childhood,

[1:35:36] since you were so annoyed at being bedeviled by people.

[1:35:39] No, I can't blame the movie for that.

[1:35:40] It's too good a movie.

[1:35:41] And just watching it, it's like,

[1:35:43] all the things that I am frustrated about

[1:35:45] with a movie like Rebel Moon,

[1:35:46] E.T. does so beautifully, where it's like,

[1:35:49] I feel like I know these characters,

[1:35:51] where they live and how they live and who they are

[1:35:52] feels specific and yet universal because specific.

[1:35:55] The movie takes so much time to get you

[1:35:58] into the hearts of these characters

[1:36:00] before action-y type stuff happens.

[1:36:03] And it all means something.

[1:36:05] You know, it's-

[1:36:05] Yeah, before E.T. shows up and starts flipping

[1:36:07] and flipping these heads open.

[1:36:09] Before he uses his laser sword to just cut guns

[1:36:11] out of the hands of FBI agents.

[1:36:12] Yeah, he just starts blasting

[1:36:13] and replace them with walkie-talkies.

[1:36:15] Yeah, and it's just like the-

[1:36:17] And it is such a powerful movie.

[1:36:19] Like, it toys with your emotions so hard,

[1:36:21] but it does it so well.

[1:36:22] And like, we showed it to my older son a couple years ago

[1:36:24] and he got so upset, but then really loved it.

[1:36:26] We showed it to my younger son,

[1:36:27] it was so overwhelming to him, he got so upset.

[1:36:29] But in the way that a movie makes you upset

[1:36:31] when you are, when a sad thing happens in it

[1:36:33] and you are overwhelmed by it.

[1:36:34] And like, it's so, like, every time I see this movie,

[1:36:38] and I'm like, yeah, there's like,

[1:36:40] this is one of the greatest movies I've ever seen.

[1:36:42] And it's a story about an alien

[1:36:43] who becomes friends with a kid,

[1:36:45] which is a dumb idea for a plot in some ways.

[1:36:48] But it's because it's all,

[1:36:49] it is consistently hitting the emotion of the characters

[1:36:52] rather than like, oh, we've gotta make sure

[1:36:55] there's a lot of like running and gunning,

[1:36:57] you know, and stuff like that.

[1:36:59] So it just does such a good job of being,

[1:37:02] and also this is not like an art movie.

[1:37:04] This is a huge blockbuster movie.

[1:37:06] Like, this is the most middle of the road

[1:37:08] storytelling you can get.

[1:37:09] And it's just done so well

[1:37:10] that like you're crying by the end of it.

[1:37:12] So E.T., if you haven't seen it a long time,

[1:37:14] I recommend you go back and watch it.

[1:37:15] If you've never seen it, you should go see it.

[1:37:16] Just be ready to cry.

[1:37:18] And the movie that you may not have seen,

[1:37:19] which is-

[1:37:20] I'm ready.

[1:37:21] Yeah, so you're ready.

[1:37:22] Dan's always ready to cry.

[1:37:23] That's the secret, he's always ready, yeah.

[1:37:26] The other movie is also a science fiction movie,

[1:37:29] also from 1982.

[1:37:30] And I kind of am imagining a science fiction

[1:37:33] double feature in 1982 of E.T.

[1:37:35] And then the movie Liquid Sky,

[1:37:37] the independent science fiction film

[1:37:39] that is partly doubles as a portrait

[1:37:42] of a certain early 80s New York downtown

[1:37:45] kind of art scene,

[1:37:47] but it's also the story of tiny aliens

[1:37:49] that live in a tiny flying saucer

[1:37:50] and are attracted to the chemicals of heroin use,

[1:37:55] but even more than that,

[1:37:56] are addicted to the chemicals of orgasm

[1:37:58] and have to kill men in order to retrieve it.

[1:38:01] And it's such a beautiful looking movie

[1:38:05] in terms of like 80s new wave type look.

[1:38:08] And it's such a strange movie

[1:38:11] that kind of operates on a downtown dream logic,

[1:38:16] and not a movie that everyone will like.

[1:38:18] It's got this great electronic score.

[1:38:20] There's also a very simple score,

[1:38:23] but it's another example of like,

[1:38:25] this is as much or more of a science fiction movie

[1:38:27] than Rebel Moon.

[1:38:28] And it was made for one 320th of the money.

[1:38:32] And it feels so indelible.

[1:38:34] I'll be remembering images from this movie

[1:38:36] for the rest of my life

[1:38:37] and performances from it for the rest of my life

[1:38:39] when I've forgotten that Rebel Moon existed.

[1:38:41] I saw this just out of college in an era

[1:38:44] where it was like,

[1:38:45] it was much harder to find oddball movies in general.

[1:38:50] I heard about it years before I ever got to see it.

[1:38:52] This movie in particular,

[1:38:53] but now it is on the Criterion Channel's

[1:38:56] Synth Scores collection,

[1:38:58] as well as being available on other streamers.

[1:39:00] But like, that's probably where you're gonna see

[1:39:02] the best print, I would assume.

[1:39:03] So I've been looking, I wanna revisit it.

[1:39:06] I haven't watched it yet, but I would.

[1:39:07] It is such a, it's such a,

[1:39:09] I had actually tried to start watching this movie

[1:39:11] a while back and the opening of it,

[1:39:13] it feels like the, I was like, this movie,

[1:39:16] is this a bad movie?

[1:39:17] Like the acting and the dialogue when it first starts

[1:39:19] are, it's like, you have the same actress, Anne Carlisle,

[1:39:23] is playing a male character and a female character

[1:39:25] in the same scene.

[1:39:26] And the man is like, you got the stuff?

[1:39:28] When are we gonna get the stuff?

[1:39:29] And it's like, this is like,

[1:39:31] it's like the most generic kind of drug talk.

[1:39:33] As the movie goes on, it's almost like the movie was like,

[1:39:36] okay, we wanna make sure anybody

[1:39:38] who might be thrown off by that is not watching the movie.

[1:39:40] Because this movie is gonna,

[1:39:42] it's the squares, it's just gonna be too much for them.

[1:39:44] They are not gonna be able to handle this.

[1:39:45] And by the time early on that the evil,

[1:39:49] the evil performance artist, drug dealer girlfriend

[1:39:51] of the main character is doing her performance art piece

[1:39:54] about her rhythm box and how,

[1:39:56] and it's, by that point, the movie is like,

[1:39:59] okay, now we're gonna.

[1:40:00] showing you what this movie is really like.

[1:40:01] And yeah, it just, I had been meaning to see it for years

[1:40:05] and I finally saw it.

[1:40:06] And it's just, it's like, if you watch that in E.T.,

[1:40:08] it's like, this is the breadth of type

[1:40:10] of science fiction movies that existed in 1982.

[1:40:13] Like, doesn't that make you feel sad

[1:40:15] that there's even the independent science fiction movies now,

[1:40:18] I feel like are still trying to be kind of like,

[1:40:20] they're trying to do what E.T. does

[1:40:21] or what horror movies do.

[1:40:23] And the Rebel Moon movies are just doing Star Wars.

[1:40:26] Did Liquid Sky make Sammy and Gabriel cry or no?

[1:40:31] The weird thing, we watched it

[1:40:33] and I haven't seen them since then.

[1:40:36] In the middle of the night, they stole my car

[1:40:37] and I've just seen, they started an Instagram feed

[1:40:39] and they're just painting their faces bright neon colors

[1:40:42] and going to late night raves and performance art things.

[1:40:45] And so they're really getting a city education, you know,

[1:40:47] so they're just living the New York downtown lifestyle,

[1:40:49] you know, so they really inspired them.

[1:40:51] Yeah, that's great.

[1:40:53] I'm glad that, you know.

[1:40:54] Great art can do that.

[1:40:56] Yeah, this was one that I watched solo.

[1:40:58] Oh, okay.

[1:40:59] As in, I watched it as Han Solo, dressed up as Han Solo.

[1:41:02] Yeah.

[1:41:03] The vest and everything.

[1:41:04] Yeah.

[1:41:05] What else would he wear if it wasn't the vest?

[1:41:08] What is that, snow parka?

[1:41:10] Yeah, yeah, his Bespin outfit, yeah.

[1:41:13] Yeah, otherwise, just kind of like a white shirt.

[1:41:16] Pants.

[1:41:18] Hey guys, thanks for taking this trip back

[1:41:20] to that old Rebel Moon with me.

[1:41:23] When the Rebel Moon hits your eye

[1:41:26] like a big laser blast.

[1:41:27] For the listeners, you know,

[1:41:29] I just wanted to say quickly,

[1:41:30] like we've been blessed with a lot of great guests recently,

[1:41:34] like terrific guests,

[1:41:35] and we've been doing sort of a lot of flashback episodes

[1:41:40] in part because of that, in part because of other things.

[1:41:43] But if you like these like classic Peaches episodes

[1:41:46] where it's just the three of us and like a newer movie,

[1:41:49] rest assured, we're not giving up on those.

[1:41:52] It was just a sort of a trick of scheduling

[1:41:56] that it ended up being a block of that,

[1:41:58] but we try and mix it up.

[1:42:00] And I think we'll do some more recent ones soon,

[1:42:05] perhaps just with the three of us for a while.

[1:42:07] I mean, part of the issue is that we are in a little bit

[1:42:10] of a movie relative drought too.

[1:42:13] Like there's fewer things coming out,

[1:42:15] but we've got some crap lined up

[1:42:17] that we'll talk to you about.

[1:42:20] So before we go, I'd like to say,

[1:42:23] go over to MaximumFun.org to check out other great shows

[1:42:28] on our network.

[1:42:29] And also under the merch tab over there,

[1:42:32] we put up some new shirts.

[1:42:34] We haven't had new merch on the official Maximum Fun store

[1:42:38] for a while, but Tom Fowler designed us a beautiful shirt.

[1:42:41] The Tom Fowler.

[1:42:42] It's available with or without sleeves.

[1:42:45] It looks like the Flophouse with a bunch of sleeves.

[1:42:48] It looks like the Flophouse with a bunch of like,

[1:42:50] it's like roots or like kind of crackling electricity

[1:42:53] between roots and crackling electricity look.

[1:42:56] It looks very metal.

[1:42:57] It looks very cool.

[1:42:58] It looks super metal.

[1:42:59] It looks really cool.

[1:43:01] And also thank you to Alex Smith, our producer.

[1:43:05] He goes by the name HowlDotty on various socials.

[1:43:08] Last full episode, I handed him some bad audio

[1:43:12] and he did some magic with it.

[1:43:13] We're glad to have him.

[1:43:16] So thank you, Alex.

[1:43:18] But that's it for now.

[1:43:19] For the Flophouse, I've been Dan McCoy.

[1:43:21] I'm Stuart Wellington.

[1:43:22] I'm Elliot, the scar taker-aware.

[1:43:26] Oh.

[1:43:28] Kalen.

[1:43:29] Actually, guys, I don't know how to take scars away.

[1:43:30] I really promised a lot with that nickname

[1:43:32] and I don't know how I can't catch that trick.

[1:43:34] Yeah, maybe I have to do laser dermatology.

[1:43:36] That's what I'll do.

[1:43:37] Okay.

[1:43:38] Okay, bye.

[1:43:39] Whatever.

[1:43:40] All right.

[1:43:41] Okay, I was waiting.

[1:43:42] I've been so used to having a guest.

[1:43:44] I'm like, and then there's a phone.

[1:43:46] Oh, okay.

[1:43:47] All right, three of us.

[1:43:48] I think we're alone now.

[1:43:50] There doesn't seem to be an Alonzo around.

[1:43:56] That's great.

[1:43:56] Yeah.

[1:43:57] There's no Scardinos.

[1:43:58] It's just the three of us clowns.

[1:44:01] There's no Scardinos.

[1:44:11] Podcasting as fast as we can, can, can.

[1:44:13] Oh, man, we fucked up.

[1:44:14] We should have brought Meredith back

[1:44:16] because it could have been the Scardino giver.

[1:44:18] Oh, you're right.

[1:44:19] Oh, wow.

[1:44:20] You're right.

[1:44:21] And she would have loved watching this.

[1:44:22] She would have loved this movie.

[1:44:22] Styrofoam movie.

[1:44:23] This barely existent film.

[1:44:26] Maximum fun.

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Ep.#428 - Rebel Moon Part 2: The Scargiver

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