mini Apr 22, 2026 00:05:50

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[0:00] Hey listeners, it's Max Fundrive, and here's a sneak peek of our bonus content for this
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[0:06] This episode is about Transformers The Movie from 1986.
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[0:16] Enjoy.
[0:17] I, you know, guys, we've been doing the show for a long time and I was always waiting,
[0:22] wondering when we were going to do a classic Orson Welles movie and we finally did it.
[0:27] But it's one of the good ones.
[0:29] Yeah.
[0:30] Take that, Mr. Arkadin.
[0:31] Is that how you say it?
[0:32] Yeah.
[0:33] Also known as Confidential Report.
[0:34] Yeah.
[0:35] Mr. Arkadin.
[0:36] Take that F for fake.
[0:40] Yeah.
[0:42] Other side of the wind.
[0:43] The posthumous release.
[0:45] Anyway.
[0:46] So what were we talking about?
[0:48] The Transformers.
[0:49] Transformers.
[0:50] Yeah.
[0:51] We're doing a Transformers movie.
[0:52] We're starting out at the beginning.
[0:53] We should say, actually, we're starting out not at the beginning, but Orson Welles, I
[0:58] was reading about it and how he described this movie to somebody, what his role is.
[1:01] And he goes, I play a toy that breaks some other toys.
[1:04] Like, I think he had little understanding of what was going on and he cared very little.
[1:09] And you know what?
[1:10] He fucking crushes it.
[1:12] And yet he does great.
[1:13] To be honest, they messed with his performance a little bit because he was on the verge of
[1:17] death when he made this movie.
[1:19] But I feel like he does a great vocal performance there, to be honest.
[1:22] In a way, he might have had the most clear understanding, because I had not realized
[1:27] until like reading up on this movie, the degree to which, you know, so many traumatic
[1:33] to a generation character deaths in it were just motivated by Hasbro being like, we need
[1:37] new toys.
[1:38] Get rid of those old characters.
[1:40] Bring in some new characters.
[1:43] They just did not realize that kids might have grown attached to it.
[1:45] I can't wait to guide you through the wilds of Cybertron today, Dan, and help you understand
[1:53] what we're about to see.
[1:54] Well, yeah.
[1:55] I watched, you know, the series.
[1:57] I watched Transformers when I was a kid, but I had never seen the original animated movie
[2:03] from the 80s until doing it for this show.
[2:06] Oh, I saw.
[2:07] I have memories.
[2:08] It doesn't make sense.
[2:09] It came out in 1986.
[2:11] I would have been five years old, four and a half years old when this came out.
[2:15] It makes no sense that I would have seen this in the theater, and yet I have memories of
[2:19] seeing it in the theater.
[2:20] I definitely saw it in the theater.
[2:21] So I must have seen it probably on tape, but I definitely watched this when I was a kid.
[2:26] And I got to tell you, I don't know if it made any more sense to me as a kid than it
[2:29] did now watching it as an adult.
[2:32] I presume that as a child, I would have known who these characters are, that these would
[2:36] be beloved friends to me.
[2:38] I mean, at least one of them is Optimus.
[2:41] You know Optimus Prime.
[2:42] I know Optimus Prime.
[2:43] You know Optimus Prime, too.
[2:44] Everyone knows Optimus Prime.
[2:45] You know the basic characters, Optimus Prime, you know Spike Witwicky, you know all the
[2:50] big characters.
[2:51] Here's the other one.
[2:52] I remember Optimus Prime.
[2:53] I remember Megatron.
[2:55] I remember Starscream, guys, and I remember Grimlock.
[2:59] Yeah, Grimlock, of course.
[3:00] I can't talk enough about how much I love the relationship between Megatron and Starscream.
[3:08] It's two old people fighting constantly.
[3:12] It is the exact energy.
[3:13] This is a little digression, so you guys be patient with me.
[3:16] Sure, sure.
[3:17] And then I'll get into the summary of Transformers.
[3:18] It's the exact thing that the Warhammer 40,000 writers realized that the Necrons were missing,
[3:24] so they injected it into this race of unthinking robots.
[3:27] They instead made them basically the Golden Girls slash Megatron and Starscream when they
[3:32] created, you know, the relationship between Traz and the Infinite and Oricon the Diviner,
[3:36] which is so much funnier and cooler.
[3:39] It's so great.
[3:40] Like, I love these two, like, very bitchy characters.
[3:42] It's the classic two villains, one who works for the other one, but they both hate each
[3:47] other.
[3:48] And the subservient one is always looking for his opportunity to become the top dog.
[3:52] And the big one turns into a smaller gun that the lesser one has to shoot, which is fucking
[3:58] sick.
[3:59] It's like, why not turn him into a tank?
[4:01] A big gun?
[4:03] There's already a guy who does that.
[4:04] There's something so much fucking cooler that he turns into a little gun.
[4:07] And also because it's a cooler toy.
[4:08] It's a cooler toy, because he turns into a gun that a kid can carry, you know.
[4:12] Yeah, no, okay.
[4:13] Sure, as a toy.
[4:14] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[4:15] Then he gets killed by the cop from Die Hard.
[4:18] Cool.
[4:19] Reginald Bell Johnson killed him.
[4:22] The toy gun he was holding was Megatron?
[4:24] That was it?
[4:25] Yeah, yeah.
[4:26] That kid?
[4:27] Starscream.
[4:28] Wow.
[4:29] Yeah.
[4:30] Ah, Reginald Bell Johnson!
[4:31] Why are you shooting me?
[4:32] Yeah.
[4:33] So anyway, let's talk about this.
[4:34] I'm going to take us through the summary.
[4:36] Suru, you're going to help me.
[4:37] You're going to help me as my Sherpa through this world, because I don't remember all these
[4:40] characters.
[4:41] You are just the victim who is along for the ride.
[4:45] I'm like Carl Pilkington of this episode.
[4:47] You are.
[4:48] And by the way, I dropped some deep Warhammer 40,000 lore.
[4:51] If you guys have any more questions, I know it probably raised more questions than it
[4:54] answered.
[4:55] Feel free to just pause the podcast and just bounce them off me.
[4:58] Okay.
[4:59] Yeah.
[5:00] We won't do that.
[5:01] Oh, sure.
[5:02] Bounce them.
[5:03] So this is, we're talking about Transformers, the movie, or The Transformers, the movie
[5:05] that's from 1986.
[5:06] This is the animated movie that is not just based on the show, but it effectively is part
[5:11] of the show continuity.
[5:12] It happens within the show universe, but it's between seasons of the show, while the show
[5:18] is going on.
[5:19] And one of the things that I just always love about this is the screenplay is written by
[5:22] Ron Friedman, who his career was half animated Saturday morning cartoons and half all the
[5:29] sitcoms of the 60s and 70s.
[5:32] So this is a guy who wrote for both Gilligan's Island and Transformers.
[5:36] He wrote for both GI Joe and Bewitched.
[5:39] That's amazing.
[5:40] This guy's career.
[5:41] Yeah.

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