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The Flop House: Episode #34 - Mirrors
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This week we discuss Kiefer Sutherland in Mirrors, the film that decided that the most scary part of any horror movie is that part where something unexpected is seen in a mirror, and said, let's just make a whole movie of that.
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Welcome to the Flophouse! This is Stuart Wellington. This is Dan McCoy. This is Elliot Kaelin. Chip-chip, here we go, and so forth. Wait, are you English? I am today. It's St. Patrick's Day, the day we celebrate England in all its glory.
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No, that's not. That's not. No, it's a totally different island.
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Oh, Jamaica Day? Is that today?
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Wait, was St. Patrick magical?
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Yes, he's a saint. He had to perform three miracles to be a saint.
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But does that, are they magic?
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They're masters of the mystic arts.
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It depends on whether you would say that the power of Christ is magic or something far greater.
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Do you think it's a magic trick to be able to remove snakes from an island?
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Like a shaman?
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He might have been a shaman, like Santa Claus, yeah. Or that character from Ernest Goes to Camp.
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So, what's going on today, Dan? Other than, you know, St. Patrick's cheer.
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Well, what's going on is that we watched a little movie.
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Oh, right.
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Called Mirrors.
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Oh, nice.
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Mirrors.
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Mirrors.
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Starring Kiefer Sutherland.
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Sutherland.
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And Amy Smart.
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Smart.
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Ames.
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Nice. This was a great movie.
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Was it?
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Well, the thing is that it had, well, I mean, it was a great movie if you base the quality of a movie on how appropriate the title is.
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Yeah.
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Yes, then this was the greatest movie ever made.
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Because there's a lot of stuff about mirrors in this movie.
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Yeah, I think there's probably, I wouldn't say it's an exaggeration to say that there's a mirror in every scene of this movie.
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This movie has the kind of one-to-one relationship between its plot and its title that you usually only find in porn.
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Where the title tells you what you're going to find in the movie.
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Wait, can you be more explicit about that?
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I won't get too explicit, but it's called like Naughty Nurses.
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You're going to find some nurses having sex.
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Probably.
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Or like Mighty Milkmaids might have lactating women.
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Or just nurses that have malpractice suits brought against them.
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Yeah, well, that wouldn't really be porn.
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Yeah.
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It depends.
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Unless they settle the malpractice suits out of court with low jobs.
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A legal system at work.
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Most plaintiffs would go for it.
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Or rim jobs.
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All right.
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Too explicit.
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So, Mirrors, huh?
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Starring Kiefer Sutherland, Amy Smart, and others.
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Kiefer Sutherland was in Young Guns, right?
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It's true.
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That has nothing to do with the movie.
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I prefer to think of him as Kiefer Sutherland of the cowboy way.
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Wait, Keith Sutherland?
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Keith or Sutherland.
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Son of Don Al Sutherland.
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He's been a little typecast lately, ever since he was on that 24 Hours show.
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Ever since he's been a successful actor on a successful television show, he's been typecast.
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Yeah, everybody thinks that he's always this hard-nosed FBI agent guy who's only got 24 hours to live or something.
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He's got to spend a lot of time talking on the phone.
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It'd be great if that was the premise.
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And then by the fourth season, it's like, you only have 24 hours to live again?
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It's like, Mr. President, I'm going to need the antidote right away.
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Nope, not until you finish the case.
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You can't do that this time, Keith Sutherland.
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Wait, so his character is named Keith Sutherland?
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Yeah, it's hard.
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It's like Jerry Seinfeld playing himself.
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When he played Jeremy Seinfeld.
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Okay, this is the most gibberish we've started off a podcast with.
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Mirrors is a fairly bland film.
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If anyone's tuning in to the Flophouse, that episode, I think this is 34, it's going to be very good.
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Okay, well, the story here is that we watched this shitty movie, and now we're going to talk about it for a little while.
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What's the story of the movie, though? What happens in the film?
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Okay, stick with me.
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Basically, this dude totally needs to get a job, so he gets a job as a...
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He's a former police officer who's dealing with alcohol problems.
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Okay, so he needs a job because he's a former police officer,
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and his pretty hot wife doesn't like him seeing his kids because he's got a drinking problem, I think.
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And he's taking psychological medication.
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Yeah, so he starts...
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He starts to have some rage issues, maybe.
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Yeah, so he starts working at this burned-up old department store in the middle of Manhattan.
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The Mayflower.
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Yeah, which I think used to be a sanitarium or something?
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It was a sanitarium, then it was converted into a department store, and then it burned down in the 50s.
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And this prime piece of real estate...
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Wait, was it an Indian burial ground, too?
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No, I don't think so.
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Okay.
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This is a building. It's huge. It's an enormous building on 6th Avenue in the 20s.
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And it's not just that there's a building. The building is surrounded by yards.
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It has a fair amount of landscaped land around it, and it's insane that this building has been...
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This spot has lain fallow, as Dan put it, for 50 years.
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In the middle of Manhattan.
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Well, I mean, I don't think the ghosts that inhabit the building were going to sell.
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But Chelsea, a very valuable piece of real estate.
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So Keith gets his job at this department store.
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His name is Matt Carson in the movie.
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Yeah, and he...
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It's a good Western name.
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Yeah, he starts seeing things, like he starts seeing shit in the mirrors.
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Like burned-up bodies and stuff.
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Yeah, and he does a little bit of research, and then he realized that he starts seeing shit outside of the department store.
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But still in mirrors.
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Yeah, it's all magic.
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And mirrors are following him around.
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Pretty quickly, he realizes the mirrors are the problem.
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And then he thinks, like, the mirrors are going to...
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It's like Sister tries to tell him...
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Where did my life go wrong?
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He's staying with his sister, and she tells him he's crazy and he should quit his job.
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And he's like, fuck that, I need this job.
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And then a mirror version of her makes her rip her own jaw off in a totally awesome scene.
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The first scene of the movie is a guy, he's running away from mirrors.
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And a mirror image of himself cuts his throat, so his throat also opens up.
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So in this one, in the mirror, this mirror version of Amy Smart starts ripping her own jaw off.
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And Amy Smart, her jaw also gets ripped off.
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It's pretty awesome and kind of gross.
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It's very gross.
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So, watch it.
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Okay, moving forward.
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Gabe Rossellin totally flips out.
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He's like, what?
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My sister?
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But you're not even in the department store.
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So he goes to his wife's house and starts painting over the mirrors.
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Yeah, because that's the solve.
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To protect his wife and children.
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So he tries to break the mirrors.
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And when he shoots the mirrors, they immediately heal.
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Well, the mirrors in the department store do.
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Yeah, because of their magic.
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Yeah.
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Oh, yeah, so he's painting over mirrors.
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His ex-wife thinks he's crazy.
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And then he proves he's not crazy somehow.
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I don't remember.
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He goes and, like, the mirror gives him a name.
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The mirror, everyone who's been a security guard at this department store,
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the mirrors have been telling them to find this person with this name.
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What is it?
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Yeah, something like that.
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And they haven't been able to, so it's been killing their families.
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His wife, he tries to find this Eseker person.
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He has a friend in the police force who's helping him do research,
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and his wife starts seeing things in mirrors also.
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You would think the mirrors would be a little more explicit.
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Like, after the first or second security guard totally fucks up,
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they'd be like, it's Anna, Anna Eseker, not just Eseker.
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That's the problem with these kinds of ghost movies is it's like the ghost needs you to do something to help them,
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but the only way for them to get the message across is apparently scaring you in, like, very obscure ways.
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It's like by making clocks spin backwards or something, and you're like, oh, I should have known.
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They're using the Socratic ghost method.
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They know that if the person comes to the answer on their own, it will mean more to them.
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It's more learning.
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It's experiential.
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They're like, listen, I'm a ghost.
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I'm looking for Anna Eseker so I can take her body back over.
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Do me a solid.
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I won't hurt your family.
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Well, I think the journey is just as important as the solution for the demon ghost thing.
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Yeah, and it's important that someone's jaw gets ripped off.
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Yeah, that shit was awesome.
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Okay, but he finds out who Anna Eseker is.
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So he goes and tracks her down.
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Turns out she used to be a hillbilly.
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A Pennsylvania hillbilly, yes.
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And then she was like a mental institute person.
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She was possessed by some sort of evil force as a kid, was put into the mental institution, and her death was faked.
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Oh, I didn't remember that part.
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Really, she left the institution, lived with her family a little longer because she was cured, and then she disappeared and became a nun.
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Yeah, because there's problems with mirrors.
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And let me point out that in rapid succession, the film ran through three horror movie cliche explanations.
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One, woman in sanitarium – or wait, actually one, hillbillies.
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Two, woman in sanitarium.
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Three, Catholics.
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Yep.
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It was like one after another.
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Body blow, body blow, shot to the jaw.
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It was like breaking a bunch of mirrors.
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Yeah.
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And so it turns out that she explains that she had a demon inside of her.
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Absolutely.
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She went to the sanitarium, and the doctor had a revolutionary new method for curing people with schizophrenia.
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Involving?
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Sit them in a room full of mirrors, strap them in a chair, and just force them to look at themselves for a while.
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Yeah, well, Elliot, schizophrenics just really need to think about what they've done.
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Apparently.
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Yeah, it's in the heart.
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light of mirrors
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only then can you realize that you're crazy and he has a
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the only way i think all that's what i'm i'm crazy look at me and i don't even
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and i look at myself on the outside i seem crazy
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the only way i can buy it is it was the fifties and nobody knew anything about
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psychiatry that they thought was all for knowledge and shit
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well that's what seventy years earlier and i can buy that more than what i am
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by what happened next which is apparently a hundred years ago for some
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reason the mirrors just sucked the demon out of her and trapped them in mirror
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world yes so the demon was sucked out of her i don't know what is that a movie
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mirror world
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uh... your mask you're thinking there is a there is a book called mirror world
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no that's dreamscape
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no it's a big overheaded guy you're thinking of the russian satellite mirror
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no that's actually not what i'm thinking of i'm thinking of river world by the late philip jose farmer
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no flatland
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flatliners
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wait a minute with keith sutherland oh my god
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and kevin bacon anyway so the demon got sucked out of her now it's living in
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mirrors and it wants her back
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it's been trying to
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explain this to security guards by killing them and it hasn't been getting
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through yeah luckily keefer is a cut above the rest i need to uh... like i
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kind of want to sit that demon down and start thinking about its victory
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conditions like demon what you know
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what are you trying to achieve are you trying to actually solve something so you should probably stop
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i mean granted
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wait it's in love? that's my guess it's in love with anna essiker
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now the problem is i guess is that it it gets frustrated really easily so it
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just makes people kill themselves in mirrors or something well it's it's not
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very it's not a good
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it's not good at thinking things through this demon it has fits of rage
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yeah and i mean it's uh... in many ways it's like our protagonist it's like
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almost like a mirror of him
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not really anyway
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so
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yeah because of the rage anyway meanwhile at home it doesn't look like him it looks like a demon
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yeah keefer sutherland's son has
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chipped away the paint over the mirrors
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because
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he is friendly with this mirror demon and is luring him to try to get to the
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family
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it starts attacking the family
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keefer sutherland finds the nun hey wait was that the scene where the ex-wife gets
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all wet
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yeah eventually throughout the movie the ex-wife shows more and more cleavage as
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the film goes on
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uh... and eventually she's just wearing a really wet shirt it's almost like
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the story i heard about uh... wally wood and power girl
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where he just kept increasing the size of her bust to see whether anyone would
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ever notice
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and they never did and that's why power girl uh... has such a huge ridiculous
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wreck is a superhero whose main characteristic is a huge wreck yeah
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it seemed like
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uh... alejandra aha
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the director of this uh... was was pulling the same yeah and in between every shot
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he's like he's reaching over and pulling that neckline down a little bit
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i think what it is is it's building up you know the payoff at the end you're
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like
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it's really important by the end you're like man it's really important that he wins
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cuz
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that's some great cleavage yeah that's a nice set that's what he's fighting for
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yeah i mean that's uh... that's why we fight
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yeah exactly for those rounders
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uh... that's what that movie's about right the movie rounders yeah
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uh... i might have to rent it now
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uh...
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so she's trying to save her kids from this evil mirror thing that's chasing
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after her
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and he takes the nun at gunpoint because she refuses to come with him takes her
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back to the department store
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and then and his wife makes a really weird calls like
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there's a lot of times where she she's uh... think she sees her son and you're
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like
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yeah lady that's clearly a mirror kid like your son's nowhere around here what
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are you doing
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oh now it cut your face what do you fucking deserve that she calls him and
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she's like i'm so scared he's like what's going on there
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i'm so scared just tell me what's going on i'm so scared
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okay listen
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you're not getting through to me you gotta tell me in more descriptive terms
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then he says i'll be right there
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but then he takes the nun to the department store yeah that's kind of weird
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that's a weird call on his part he should have dropped the nun off yes but anyway he
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takes her to the department store straps her in the mirror chair
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the mirrors explode you know the demon comes back into her the mirrors explode
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outwards which was awesome seemingly shredding the hell out of her yeah she
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like she vaporizes in a cloud of blood
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but then if you want to see a movie where a nun vaporizes in a cloud of blood
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i think the demon was really waiting for that like
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he had serious nun blue balls i guess and now this is where the movie
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usually would end keeper sutherland escapes maybe the department store falls
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apart and he reaches his family
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but the movie instead was like
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i kind of want there to be a hyperactive fight scene between keeper sutherland and
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the demon
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uh... so in the midst of a collapsing tunnel collapsing tunnel and fire
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everywhere explosions the nun lady comes back as maybe one of the army of
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darkness evil dead two ghouls or like a resonant evil ghoul yeah combination
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there's a little more cgi than army of darkness yeah which does make it scarier
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there's a lot of bad cgi in this and they fight
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forever and she throws keeper sutherland through a brick wall and he's fine
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and it ends literally with him
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impaling her on a steam pipe just like at the end of commando
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yeah like the scenes where she's throwing him through a brick wall have the
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like level of realism as an episode of smallville
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but it kind of turns into an evil dead movie by that point
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all it needed was keeper sutherland to be like come on baby let's do this thing you know
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or like
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impaling him in that hurt and insane groove you got real ugly
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none or i don't know
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there's all kinds of explosions and then what happens to keeper
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well he gets smashed by a rock or something i think
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and then
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then he like wakes up right the twist ending no he wakes up and he's walking around
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he's walking around and
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uh...
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stewart did you notice anything strange about the words
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well i mean woke up
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uh... it looked like everything was backwards but i thought i'd just been
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drinking a lot no everything was backwards because now he's trapped in
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the mirrors
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wait what? for some reason
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come on
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no and then cut to credits
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that's it that's the end of the movie the hell you say but it's like it feels like
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it feels like a movie that the script ended
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come on
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what are you talking about that's how it ends
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you watched it with us you watched it with us that's how it ended
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come on
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what are you talking about that was the end of the movie
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wait that's the end? yes
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come on what are you talking about
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wait he's a ghost now? no he's not necessarily a ghost he's trapped in the mirror world though
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wait but he's like walking around
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he's walking around but he's in a mirror you know he's in the reverse image of the
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world around him come on that doesn't make sense
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no it doesn't but it's still the end of the movie
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wait what?
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wait is he a demon? no he's not a demon he's just himself
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come on that doesn't make any sense
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the movie it feels like the movie
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probably originally ended at the mirrors all exploding and the nun
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wait wait wait
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wait before the nun became a demon or before when the nun got shredded?
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right when the nun got shredded
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yeah that would have been awesome
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and then they threw a demon fight scene in
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yeah I think there's like a scene where you know the nun gets shredded a couple
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mirrors explode
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cut to Keith Sutherland going
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yes and then like it
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then that's the movie
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and they did test audiences and it's like you know audiences didn't get enough closure here
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one thing I really love about when he puts her in the chair by the way is
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he's brought this nun at gunpoint
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from you know the nunnery
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from Pennsylvania to New York
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yeah and made her
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made her sit in this chair because the demons want her back in order to save his family
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and then he says thank you
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as if this was a sacrifice she decided to make
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which would have made sense if
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you know like I mean she is a nun but
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that never happened
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he'd forced her
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she's also a really selfish nun he asked her for help save his family
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and she goes no
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and then he shows her a picture of his family
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he's like these are the only thing that matter in the world to me
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and she goes no I'm sorry
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and then he puts a gun at her and says
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now you'll come with me
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was she afraid that the demons would be able to get out if she returned
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what kind of shit
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what kind of shit did she do
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when she was like a little girl and possessed
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she was just like kinda bit people
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she was fuckin weird right
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it's not like she was like a super powerful person or something
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well she was but she had more strength than an average little girl
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but she was just kind of a handful
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she was like problem child
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like Clifford
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yes like Clifford with Martin Short
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wait like the good son
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yeah like the good son
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Elijah Wood and Macaulay Culkin
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this is a very quick side note
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but I remember when Martin Short was on David Letterman's show
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to promote Clifford
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and Letterman keeps saying
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well I saw the movie last night it's really funny
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I saw it last night it's really funny
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and I don't know how old I was maybe like 13 or 14
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but realizing like wait a minute
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he didn't see that movie
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that movie looks terrible
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he can't be saying it's funny really
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that's when I got disillusioned with David Letterman
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yeah
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that's when I got disillusioned with David Letterman
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so I know that you might think that this movie was flawless
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listening
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but there were some problems
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really
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it's very boring at times
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yeah well there were long scenes of Clifford
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just walking around
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just walking through the department store
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looking at things with his flashlight
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and you're probably thinking like oh walking through the department store
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there's probably a montage of him trying on different outfits
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set to a song
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no there wasn't
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there could have at least been one opening montage of that
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there could have at least been one opening montage of that
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so it kind of puts you at ease
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you've heard dancing with the charred mannequins
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you've heard dancing with the charred mannequins
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yeah
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or like looking around the like
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why so glum bernie face mannequins
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well
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keeper puts way too much effort into security guard job yeah
[20:09]
i was looking at the same serious
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even from the start
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he's like
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uh... okay this abandoned building
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that i am like the one security guard hired to look after
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and i don't know does it really matter that he like goes through those makes
[20:24]
his rounds all the time and then once he discovers the place is haunted
[20:27]
he seems really committed
[20:29]
to tracking it down yeah i don't like a member of the scooby
[20:32]
you guys easily so i he's like the security guard that scrooge mcduck
[20:35]
should hire to guard his fucking money back to keep the breedable is out of
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time
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because he's fucking serious man it's his confidence things he does i smell
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mystery
[20:43]
they have to get to the bottom of this let's go down to the cool flooded
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basement
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that is a very water-damaged
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it's like that that also seen from the movie mind hunters with renee harlan
[20:53]
you're talking about that there is no that's really a movie where uh...
[20:57]
where the uh... killer i think it's johnnie lee miller sorry to spoil it
[21:01]
uh... like sets of these like a room goldberg you ask like
[21:05]
kills people are listening to this podcast here about mirrors and this
[21:10]
room mind hunters for yeah but he said i would like to think the people are
[21:14]
listening this podcast have the taste of already seen mine hunters a few times
[21:18]
like me a few times
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yeah absolutely
[21:21]
there's a light bulb as a dvd double pack with deeply see or something
[21:25]
it's mine hunters the one where they're on like a trip there are like a retreat
[21:28]
well they're all fbi's yes they're being trained to be serial hit the serial
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killer catchers
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and and is a local day that he is in that area
[21:37]
uh... just like the blue sea
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and christian bale awake now christian slater
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and said christian bale they're very similar and uh... approach they're very
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similar in first name
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uh... damn other flaws we think you have been there's
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i've got another thing about my daughter not enough mirrors and mirrors
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uh...
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no i would say that there's a plethora of mary lee one has an happy as i was
[21:58]
that the scene of any smart naked was followed me after by any smarts job in
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ripped off her head yeah i mean those two things separately would have been
[22:06]
great for you
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yeah gather there's some position there's something about uh... death
[22:11]
scene in a car movie is made much worse for me if it's done to a naked lady
[22:16]
like to a lady with clothes on it's different but
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do you feel it's like a waste or something
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i don't know exactly what it is almost like it makes it possible to enjoy
[22:23]
nudity if something gory is happening during the scene
[22:27]
it's going to be harder to rewind it
[22:29]
to to watch the movie and pleasure yourself or something is that what you're talking about
[22:32]
well i mean you guys were in the room so i was going to do that
[22:35]
well maybe later right
[22:37]
maybe later on dance tv
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i think there's maybe some implicit misogyny in watching a naked lady die
[22:46]
so i think the problem i had with the movie is that it reminded me
[22:50]
too much of uh... of various other asian horror movies
[22:54]
and that it wasn't very good and uh... it was that it was that type of idea
[22:58]
like
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uh... there's this super supernatural thing that's causing all these problems
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let's solve the mystery
[23:05]
okay the mystery solved because the ghost just wanted one thing that's why
[23:08]
i was killing people okay the movie's over yay that's not even like an
[23:11]
asian movies that run with it but that used i mean that's
[23:14]
an older trope
[23:15]
yeah but i don't have like one thing they have to get them out of the what's
[23:18]
the one with uh...
[23:19]
charles loughton reese a coward ghost and he has to inspire heroism cowardly
[23:23]
askew snow it's like a canterbury
[23:25]
spoke goes to something like that i think you're thinking of the ring yes
[23:28]
the ring that's exactly what i'm thinking of so but like him but maybe
[23:32]
it's just because that's like the plot like i'm being bombarded by bullshit
[23:36]
asian horror movies like yeah there's a lot of them right now and this one is
[23:39]
so dan you were saying that the director said it wasn't a remake of the
[23:42]
a movie yeah that is the director
[23:45]
i went on wikipedia and where uh... he had done an interview where he's like
[23:50]
uh... this is not a remake of the south korean horror film into the mirror
[23:55]
but then the credits for the film
[23:58]
credit the film into the mirror
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based completely on the film uh... into the mirror
[24:04]
who are you going to believe the director of the film or the credits of the film that the
[24:08]
director director i mean the director was french so maybe is misquoted
[24:12]
uh... yeah i mean i was really disappointed because i really liked some
[24:16]
other movies that the director alohomora aha
[24:20]
that's a pronounced name and he's the director who's always surprising people
[24:24]
yet he uh... are
[24:27]
i really like that i remember and a lot of uh...
[24:30]
i really liked high-tension which is a movie he made doesn't seem uh...
[24:35]
i like it exclusively for the twist
[24:38]
not the gore or the masturbation scene
[24:41]
but just the twist and then he also made that hills have eyes remake which was
[24:46]
uh... really gory and pretty awesome
[24:48]
so i was kind of hoping this would also follow the trend of having a great twist
[24:53]
and being really gory and awesome it had a great twist he's stuck in the mirror at the end
[24:57]
wait what?
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he gets trapped in the mirror and that's why the writing is backwards
[25:04]
come on what are you talking about?
[25:06]
wait that's why the writing was backwards? yes because he's trapped in the mirror
[25:09]
i thought like the rock hit him on the head and he was retarded or something
[25:12]
no
[25:13]
that's a very different understanding of the film
[25:15]
i was going to say because that was really sad
[25:19]
how's he going to support his family? it's like flowers for alginon
[25:23]
yeah it's exactly like flowers for alginon
[25:26]
okay so uh... yeah i was really hoping for a good movie and
[25:30]
this was not this was we've seen worse but this was not very good
[25:34]
no no it wasn't
[25:35]
uh... and it felt very padded at times yeah there's some like
[25:39]
i think i kind of like the fact that they make a point to have the main
[25:43]
character like kind of addicted to these weird pills that might make him
[25:47]
hallucinate
[25:49]
but they didn't really play that up enough they gave the other characters
[25:53]
just enough reason not to believe him
[25:55]
until mirror shit started happening
[25:58]
until they got their jaw ripped off by themselves
[26:01]
the problem with that though is
[26:03]
it was one of these horror movies where no one believes the main character and
[26:07]
the main character does
[26:08]
increasingly crazy things like a boy who cried mirrors like an episode of twenty four
[26:11]
hours
[26:14]
he runs to the house and he takes out all the mirrors and he's like
[26:18]
he takes his wife and he's like
[26:19]
watch this and shoots the mirrors and the mirrors don't heal themselves and he
[26:23]
looks like a crazy person who's out on the lawn shooting mirrors
[26:27]
uh... in like a suburban neighborhood that's crazy
[26:30]
but then
[26:31]
almost immediately after that happens
[26:33]
the mirrors are always so judgmental i would shoot them
[26:37]
why do you make me look fat?
[26:40]
why do you make me look like keith or sullivan?
[26:44]
it's impossible to not say keither when you say his name
[26:47]
keifer is such a weird name
[26:49]
but almost immediately after that the mother character
[26:53]
sees her son in the mirror like her son's
[26:56]
sitting in front of the mirror and sees the reflection but then the sun gets up
[26:59]
and the reflection is still there
[27:01]
and
[27:02]
you're kind of like
[27:03]
mirrors why have you stopped being coy all of a sudden? why aren't you playing this
[27:07]
cat and mouse game? the mirrors knew that it was time for the act to reveal
[27:10]
yeah so act three could kick in
[27:12]
i mean it's not
[27:13]
it's a this is a very
[27:15]
mechanical movie in a lot of ways things happen exactly when they're supposed to
[27:18]
happen the story chugs along the story takes its time at times but it chugs along
[27:22]
otherwise in terms of structure
[27:24]
and the only real surprise is at the end when there's that huge fight with the demon
[27:28]
and the reason it's a surprise is that tonally it does not fit anything that you've seen
[27:31]
it's like you're watching
[27:33]
kind of for the most part there are scares in it but this very subdued like
[27:37]
somber movie
[27:38]
and then they throw in a big action scene at the end yeah where he gets thrown through an awesome
[27:42]
styrofoam brick wall thrown through a brick wall and he's just firing his gun wildly at this
[27:46]
monster
[27:47]
pow pow pow
[27:49]
it's like an episode of uh... the resident evil video game show yeah and i
[27:52]
mean don't get me wrong that was the best scene in the entire movie yeah it was awesome
[27:56]
now my favorite is when she rips her own jaw off
[27:58]
yeah that was gross yeah that was super gross
[28:02]
that was pretty cool
[28:03]
if i had been in a movie theater while watching it i probably would have laughed
[28:07]
aloud
[28:09]
exactly the reaction they were going for yeah that same like level of horror
[28:13]
you would have yelled out
[28:15]
that's a real jaw breaker and then looked around to see if anyone else was laughing with you
[28:21]
yep and the only person in the theater who would have been laughing was the fucking
[28:24]
crip keeper
[28:27]
oh stewart
[28:29]
i can barely get behind you stewart
[28:31]
i would have uh... spoo-gurt
[28:34]
hailington
[28:35]
i would have gone to give him a high five and he would have high fived me with a severed hand
[28:42]
that guy's awesome
[28:44]
that's one of my favorite television characters stewart you make me laugh my head off
[28:48]
his head falls off
[28:52]
do do do do do do do
[28:55]
that would be great if the crip keeper
[28:59]
i would like it if the crip keeper
[29:00]
uh... existed in real life
[29:03]
but he just went around making puns
[29:05]
and he had a boom box of his own songs afterwards
[29:08]
i think that's
[29:11]
that's your screenplay pitch
[29:13]
the crip keeper is down on his luck and he's got to come back
[29:17]
the crip keeper is shut down
[29:19]
oh man what a good movie
[29:20]
i'd watch that shit
[29:23]
the crip keeper movie that we're pitching
[29:25]
yeah i'd be in it right? we covered that right?
[29:29]
you would be in the beginning
[29:31]
what would the title be?
[29:33]
uh... i'm not smart enough right now
[29:36]
out of the crypts dead again
[29:40]
dead alive
[29:41]
no there's a movie called that
[29:44]
dead there's a movie called that dead ringers dead reckoning there's a movie
[29:47]
called that mister dead body parts
[29:50]
body parts? the lawn mower man? what about crypt keeper the movie? what about bob?
[29:56]
alright
[29:57]
what about bob?
[29:58]
what about shannon louis?
[30:00]
the rules of the game
[30:01]
bernie and june
[30:02]
even before operation double drop before this is a run
[30:06]
i'm not going to break it we're breaking our own record
[30:09]
for just mentioning other movies
[30:11]
nowadays uh...
[30:14]
and so there's a little bit of a man is a good movie
[30:18]
this it was better than american carol
[30:20]
than an american tail fibles goes west and i don't know if it's that good that
[30:24]
good
[30:24]
yeah i don't know if there's a lot uh... more to dig into now this is a
[30:28]
pretty this is a pretty s shallow film especially since elliott needs to go to
[30:32]
uruguay soon
[30:34]
so uh... i'm not going to night yeah we're going to ruin the podcast elliott
[30:39]
i'm not flying out till friday night uh... i just didn't want to stay
[30:42]
too late tonight so i'd be rested up for the trip
[30:45]
so anyway
[30:47]
so should we do our ratings of the movie now?
[30:49]
what were the ratings again dan? uh... is this a good bad movie a bad bad movie
[30:54]
or a movie that you
[30:56]
may have liked a little bit
[30:58]
i'm gonna say
[31:00]
uh... it's a hard one
[31:02]
bad bad movie but there are glimmers of fun things in it like i don't wouldn't
[31:06]
go so far as to say good bad movie because
[31:08]
it's not particularly funny like it's not so crazy that it's funny but it's
[31:12]
not a good movie but i mean girl rips her own jaw off
[31:16]
there's a huge fight scene at the end between keifer sutherland and a demon nun
[31:19]
like there are a couple moments there that are
[31:21]
that are worthwhile
[31:23]
if you like that sort of thing but overall it's not great i give it you know
[31:26]
if there's a level between good bad and
[31:28]
and good or you know off to the side
[31:31]
yeah i would say that it's a whenever keifer sutherland is just walking around
[31:36]
the uh... department store
[31:38]
or whenever he's doing police work
[31:40]
it's a bad bad movie and then the rest of the movie
[31:44]
i kinda like
[31:45]
because you know fun things will happen
[31:48]
yeah there's some really shitty cgi which
[31:51]
like every every time the cgi came on the movie dropped a couple points in my
[31:56]
book it did have a really good twist at the end i think we already covered that
[32:00]
and what was that twist
[32:01]
uh...
[32:02]
something about uh... demon
[32:04]
no there's one after that
[32:06]
i did uh... i don't know
[32:08]
but yeah i think i'm going to have to agree with you guys like this is a bad bad movie
[32:12]
but there are
[32:14]
there's a couple moments that i think it tries so hard to almost get out of
[32:18]
there are a couple moments of real imagination
[32:20]
yeah there's moments that you're glad you saw stewart i can see it in your eyes
[32:24]
yeah well of course the jaw being ripped off
[32:28]
uh... the demon uh... being vaporized
[32:32]
the slow motion montage of mirrors exploding one after another and like i
[32:38]
think you see the same one explode like four times
[32:41]
which is like okay camera two
[32:44]
camera three
[32:46]
back to the nun camera four woman holds child perfect movie
[32:52]
that's the whole thing with the scene with all the mirrors exploding back to keifer doing a reaction shot
[32:56]
and the nun is vaporized
[33:00]
you expect to see the mirrors explode but you don't expect the nun's body to
[33:04]
basically blow up
[33:06]
and then they cut to something else and then they show you that shot again as if
[33:08]
the movie is like
[33:10]
yeah you didn't imagine her body just vaporized
[33:14]
in spite of the fact that her body was totally vaporized
[33:16]
i bet the original script had a moment where as the mirrors are exploding
[33:19]
there's like a slow motion shot of mirror flying toward the nun and you
[33:24]
seeing the nun's face reflected in the mirror yeah and she turns the camera and she goes
[33:28]
this isn't going to feel good and she goes
[33:30]
yowza
[33:32]
uh oh
[33:34]
she does a spit take from the yoohoo she's drinking
[33:37]
it's a crazy straw
[33:38]
yeah it's really weird
[33:40]
but uh... yeah there's some fun moments in an otherwise
[33:43]
very boring movie
[33:44]
so um...
[33:45]
all around good review so what's going on dan
[33:48]
uh... i've got a few uh... short you look like something's on your mind
[33:52]
i've got a few short messages from uh... listeners oh cool i like listeners first
[33:56]
of all jen last name withheld uh... wrote back
[33:59]
uh... you may remember her as the uh... woman
[34:03]
who has a young daughter who likes to sing the song from wall-e oh yeah that's
[34:07]
right oh ouch that terrible peter gabriel song that i so i so uncaringly
[34:11]
talked about how bad i thought
[34:13]
she says please reassure elliot that i have my daughter
[34:17]
on a strict music diet to counteract any unfortunate facts due to peter gabriel
[34:20]
exposure
[34:21]
for every disney princess song she hears she then has to listen to something from my
[34:24]
riot girl collection
[34:26]
actually she listens mostly to they might be giants kids music which is good
[34:29]
for both our sakes uh... they won a grammy
[34:32]
that's true get that kid listening to some danzig did they win a grammy? danzig? yeah probably
[34:38]
but uh...
[34:39]
you just said they won a grammy
[34:41]
yeah no we're talking about they might be giants yeah oh i thought you were talking about danzig
[34:45]
no danzig never won a grammy what are you talking about he's great
[34:48]
well anyway you're saying he looks like wolverine
[34:51]
uh... he doesn't look like wolverine she also sent a link to apparently they're making a marmaduke
[34:57]
film really and she says uh... that you should dust off your ziggy pitch
[35:01]
so i'm gonna put that marmaduke uh... link up on the blog yeah
[35:05]
when are they gonna make the uh... that what's that the pirate one is that over
[35:10]
what's the pirate comic strip are you thinking of the french foreign legion
[35:13]
no the horrible they're vikings no there's the one with the pirates that are like
[35:18]
poorly drawn i don't think i've seen that one oh for better or for worse
[35:22]
maybe uh... rose is rose
[35:25]
where are they making that shit
[35:27]
rhymes with orange
[35:30]
pearls before swine
[35:31]
yep those are all great shylock fox
[35:35]
and max mouse
[35:36]
oh what a great movie i hear robert downey jr. is gonna be in that i'm so
[35:39]
surprised in the eighties they didn't make a mark trail movie
[35:42]
with like uh... steve gutenberg as mark trail or something like that that would have been awesome
[35:47]
or you know somebody bert reynolds
[35:49]
or for that matter like to go back and like that should have been like a nineteen
[35:52]
sixties disney film like dean martin should have been mark trailer
[35:55]
or not dean martin dean jones
[35:57]
dean martin would have been an interesting movie look over there bobby you see it's a bear
[36:01]
don't touch him
[36:04]
glug glug glug glug
[36:06]
frankie frankie put that vulture egg down it's endangered what do you have in your canteen there mark
[36:12]
don't worry about it it's adult apple juice don't worry
[36:15]
that would have been a good movie just feeding my addiction
[36:19]
let me sing you a song
[36:20]
don't poach
[36:22]
animals when the moon hits your eye like a big
[36:26]
spotted owl that's not rare in these parts look at it boy
[36:31]
my dean martin is also my bin crosby
[36:34]
so spotted owl where are you from not talking eh?
[36:39]
slap him around frank
[36:41]
anyway
[36:42]
so uh... look forward to the marmaduke movies the take away from that
[36:46]
i hope it's a cgi dog that's all i can say i hope it's a guy in a costume
[36:51]
that's a movie i'd pay to see if it was a marmaduke costume and it was a guy in a very poorly dressed costume
[36:56]
i hope it's a guy in a costume i hope it's two guys in a costume like a pantomime whore
[36:59]
i hope it's jamie kennedy in a costume with cgi people
[37:05]
so check it out
[37:07]
check it out pixar
[37:11]
i love the idea of a movie where everything is cgi except for the thing that should be cgi
[37:16]
it's like a movie about a dinosaur and everything is cgi except they use a person in just makeup as the dinosaur
[37:23]
or like an animatronic dinosaur
[37:26]
in a cgi world of people that's the denver the last dinosaur movie
[37:31]
that's like wait you're not supposed to talk about denver the next dinosaur
[37:35]
wait denver the next dinosaur?
[37:38]
what were you saying dan?
[37:39]
todd haynes should make that movie or something someone should do a real deconstruction of it
[37:44]
yeah todd salons should make the dinosaur movie
[37:47]
uh... anyway anywho uh... and then
[37:50]
marmaduke the movie that's terrible it's beethoven basically
[37:54]
a different breed of dog
[37:57]
but with probably a cgi dog
[37:59]
not an email but a comment on the... when are they going to make a fred bassett movie?
[38:02]
they're making connoisseur dogs
[38:04]
anyway sorry you're saying
[38:05]
what about a shoe movie?
[38:07]
a shoe? a mallard fillmore movie? croc?
[38:10]
anyway uh... also not a letter but
[38:13]
from the website a comment on the website
[38:16]
uh... from megan last name bell is no one sending us letters? what's going on?
[38:21]
we have a website?
[38:24]
what's the comment? theflophousepodcast.blogspot.com
[38:27]
and if you want to email us it's theflophousepodcast at gmail dot com
[38:32]
sounds easy to me
[38:33]
but uh... megan last name withheld says
[38:36]
oh floppers you've done it again
[38:38]
i only wish there were more of you to crush unrealistically over and uh... i
[38:42]
want to tell megan believe us if we weren't all uh... involved with women
[38:47]
that would be the most realistic crush you could possibly have
[38:51]
most attainable crush
[38:53]
that you've ever had in your life
[38:54]
wait what are you talking about dude?
[38:57]
that's true women are falling all over themselves apparently to get at stewart wellington
[39:00]
i was going to talk about elliot and the cryptkeeper he's the real lothario of this group
[39:04]
just because there are a few girls online who find me attractive
[39:07]
one of them who is some sort of latex fetishist
[39:10]
yeah you know i understand at one point i thought of uh...
[39:12]
i bet elliot would look pretty good in latex what do you think dan? thank you finally
[39:15]
at one point i thought of adding a poll to the website
[39:18]
and i couldn't think of any good poll questions and one of them was going to be like
[39:22]
who's your favorite flopper and then i'm like
[39:23]
no one's going to vote for me
[39:26]
stewart has the lustful low voice charm and you're the fast talker
[39:31]
and i'm just like the guy
[39:33]
who keeps trying to get people to vote for him you're the egon you're the leonardo
[39:36]
you're very necessary for the group but no one likes you you're egon leonardo if they had a baby
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egon leonardo he's not even ray stans he's egon spangler
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stewart is ernie
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and uh... elliot is burt
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and i'm burt that's not funny
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you're one of the pigeons
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that burt keeps
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that's not true you're like uh... well like if i'm kermit and he's animal you're scooter
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or if i'm alvin
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but i don't know what i'm saying i don't know the sun and you can see it or do
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you know i really have that one yes there's a lot of that one
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okay well then if we're
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if you snap and i'm crackle your pop
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uh... so
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so i think i was the best one actually so
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okay because it's a young from the movies are you going from the cartoon
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where is that we're currently has a but he didn't he didn't want all the
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suddenly you have a thing in the cartoon and i'm white haired oh yeah
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that makes sense yeah
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uh... i was like for a second i thought they had a thing in the movies but
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whether it's one of the first one but then the second rick moranis is that
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you know
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what's funny
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anyway if that's what i have actually said uh... incidentally
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you mentioned the absence of democrat-turned-republican post nine
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eleven actor ron silverman american carol
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turns out he was busy dying
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literal that's tasteless
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that's what it's true it's true that he patient jack for god's sakes taste the
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man was the villain in blue steel people andrew was a moment to remember
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ron silver who was a a good actor
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not in a lot of good projects all the time he he's an actor who
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yet he kind of got dragged down by the projects he was in that he was in a
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reversal of fortune he was very good at it
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yeah but more more often he was in my time cop which is a better don't want
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them to it's not as good as our target but it's really a better job of and and
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will be a still that also there were dozens of artists and it is a lecture
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you've been
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she was awesome
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but uh...
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you know what your favorite ron silver memory
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uh... i think it is blue steel okay
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it's such a strange movie it's sort of a horror film not a movie that gets talked
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about a lot of it
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what katherine bigelow uh... certainly a free on part of her uh... over which is
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not a big over
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as it is that people thought when you're dark and strange days but then there's
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like as we were jimmy lee curtis loses her gun and ron silver starts going
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around town shooting people with it
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it's interesting because it's basically the plot to stray dog the carousel film
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except straight out takes place in a country where guns are legal
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so when the policeman loses his gun he is very much responsible for the deaths
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that occur
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resin blue steel i think you get it and i think i'm yeah
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yeah guns are very easy to get the united states compared to japan my
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favorite moment in time cap is at the beginning when a bunch of dudes shoot
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other people whose ease but they're in the civil war time yes
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they still have gold really still some confederate gold
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and we just met as many any sense of the same object can't exist in the same
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space the same time
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what would that doesn't mean they can shake hands
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uh... when i shake hands with someone my hand is not in existing in the same
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space is there is no it makes you more together like a weird blog that was the
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and righty like me dissolves into himself and i have some stuff and that
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is
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touches himself with a little bit
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although i don't know what you know
[42:55]
overhaul
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where there was a joke somewhere was like a guy in his clone
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and uh... and they're trying to figure out if it was a maybe it was uh...
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multiple man comics whether it was gay if he masturbated himself
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uh... technically the same guy i think one of them would be gay
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the there's that old highland story where
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this guy because of time travel this guy is both
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his own mother his own father
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himself and bartender that the whole story is told to
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uh...
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women
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women is that uh... incident
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uh... al creek bridge now that's the most beautiful it that's it completely
[43:29]
unrelated there's a lot of equipment
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come on
[43:33]
but most of the most dangerous game now that we make our our should make some
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recommendation that i can go to your life exactly
[43:41]
super stuart
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what's up on the side recently that you would recommend was all transporter
[43:46]
three recently and i was okay
[43:48]
uh... muscle watchman and i was okay
[43:50]
so vampires kiss and that wasn't okay
[43:54]
one vampires kiss diary recommends species to
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i think you talked about it last week you can talk about it and i don't know
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what i want to recommend that uh... the conversations into political you brought
[44:05]
up species to the uh... man i was unfunny uh...
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so i can all recommend i i just watched a mad max beyond thunderdome again uh...
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i recommend giving another shot
[44:15]
a lot of people kind of
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doors as much because there's not a lot of shooting because there's not a lot of
[44:20]
guns of that part in the post-apocalyptic future not like people
[44:23]
don't give respect
[44:24]
okay uh... well i want to turn out to know a lot of the return of one of
[44:27]
several reasons i'm talking about people like mad max fans
[44:31]
they don't want to have a shooting in the other than that's what is either the
[44:33]
mostly car racing movies
[44:35]
uh... it's a lot like harpoons but um...
[44:39]
yeah i don't know i think i think that they are mad max beyond thunderdome is
[44:42]
probably like the tightest like it's probably the best crafted of the three
[44:46]
movies there's the a d r work isn't as hilarious as in the first film and uh...
[44:52]
yes uh... it's pretty good interesting
[44:54]
it's an interesting look
[44:56]
uh... wellington perspective
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i've not watched a lot of movies lately i saw stuck which steward is already
[45:02]
recommended and i'll second that recommendation
[45:05]
i'm gonna recommend something that no one needs recommended to them
[45:08]
i'm not breaking any news by making this recommendation
[45:12]
but uh... i watched from russia with love but i watched it on uh... the new
[45:17]
blu-ray edition that has come out i'd just seen doctor no and i will before
[45:22]
this and i watched from russia with love both on blu-ray
[45:24]
and these films look much better than they have any right to i mean they look
[45:29]
beautiful in a way that i
[45:30]
sort of have a hard time imagining they looked uh... even at the time
[45:34]
that's it
[45:35]
uh... i haven't seen anything lately that i really love but i'll recommend a
[45:39]
movie i saw a while ago
[45:41]
uh... since you mentioned james bond another great spy movie is a little movie
[45:45]
called the spy who came in from the cold with richard burton
[45:48]
which is kind of a spy movie that makes spying look the least enjoyable job in
[45:53]
the world
[45:54]
so i like mr and ms smith yeah exactly it's just like mr mrs smith
[45:58]
about a guy who uh... becomes a double agent and defects to
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east germany
[46:05]
uh... in order to get a job done and the
[46:08]
tightrope walk he has to walk between his cover story and his real life to get
[46:13]
out of there alive
[46:14]
and for a movie world not a lot necessarily
[46:17]
happens in the sort of big event sort of sense it has some beautiful uh...
[46:21]
cinematography yeah it's a beautifully shot movie it's a movie that's kind of
[46:25]
beautifully shot
[46:26]
grayness and sadness like he's very a lot like damp streets and stuff but they
[46:30]
look really good it's not a happy movie
[46:32]
it's not you know get smart
[46:34]
it's not mirrors
[46:35]
it's not mirrors which is a laugh riot
[46:37]
or dr zhivago
[46:39]
or dr zhivago which is three hours of wasted time
[46:43]
dr zhivago it's two parts and the first part ends on such a perfect note
[46:47]
the revolution has happened zhivago is taken up with this girl
[46:51]
and suddenly a train is coming up
[46:53]
and you see that her boyfriend is on it
[46:55]
who's now this high official in the party
[46:58]
and it ends and it's like oh my god what's gonna happen when he finds out about the two
[47:01]
of them and confronts them
[47:02]
and what happens nothing nothing happens they have a conversation and that's it
[47:06]
and eventually their relationship falls apart anyway like it's not a
[47:09]
but omar sharif
[47:10]
yeah great
[47:12]
omar sharif what a performance
[47:13]
a performance that was not matched until he was the narrator for ten thousand bc
[47:19]
yeah
[47:20]
uh... what else has he been doing lately he was in lawrence of arabia one time
[47:23]
in those videos he used to do for casinos where he taught you how to play back or act
[47:26]
yeah absolutely
[47:27]
it was in the movie top secret
[47:29]
yeah it was
[47:30]
so just like omar sharif now huh
[47:34]
he gets smashed in the car remember
[47:36]
well it's hilarious
[47:38]
i didn't tell you guys this is now the sharif cast
[47:41]
we're doing a bit of a format change
[47:46]
oh he's what like giving his money or something
[47:48]
he wants to get his name back out there
[47:51]
so uh... are you his agent or something
[47:54]
not officially i mean i don't get ten percent he and uh... maximillian shell and
[47:57]
maximon sidehow are going to get together
[48:00]
to form the great actors who make crappy movies club
[48:03]
the last maximon sidehow movie i saw was uh... was a daryl argento movie
[48:07]
that movie sucked what movie was that
[48:09]
i don't know it's a movie about a kid who plays who kills somebody with a flute
[48:14]
fuck it sucked it's called recital i fucking hate daryl argento
[48:18]
he looks like a little creep
[48:20]
so on the note of stewart calling out daryl argento
[48:24]
so daryl you heard him if you're out there
[48:27]
uh... you're going to take stew's challenger
[48:30]
you know where to find us
[48:32]
i think we should build this up that stewart wellington wants to have a fist fight with
[48:34]
daryl argento
[48:38]
daryl argento if you're out there if you're listening if someone was listening
[48:42]
stewart
[48:43]
is challenging you to a duel
[48:45]
not azia argento's daughter i would be a
[48:50]
she's a spy in most movies i think well she's she's had sex a lot in the movies
[48:54]
she's got a weird face though
[48:55]
all right anyway i think she gets that from her fucking dad
[49:01]
to say goodnight it's like her dad was in the mirror world or something right
[49:04]
absolutely like the mirror kind of mushed his face so he looks like sloth or
[49:07]
something i meant like he was in reverse like at the end of mirrors
[49:11]
wait what
[49:13]
it ends with him in the mirror world and it's reverse
[49:17]
keever sutherland
[49:19]
wait when what
[49:21]
at the end of mirrors
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wait come on what are you talking about
[49:26]
all right dan maybe we should uh... i'll explain this after
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i've been dan mccoy
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i've been stewart wellington i remain elliot kaelin
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goodnight goodnight goodnight goodnight
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mirrors
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m-m-m-mirrors
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m-m-m-mirrors
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Mears.
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Mears.
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Mears.
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Mears Cunningham, the choreographer.
Description
0:00 - 0:38 - Introduction and theme.0:39 - 30:46 - Is Mirrors scarier or less scary than any other horror film starring an inanimate object?30:47 - 33:46 - Final judgments. 33:47 - 43:35 - Letters from listeners and a window into Dan's low self esteem.43:36 - 49:25 - The sad bastards recommend.49:26 - 50:11 - Goodbyes, theme, and outtakes.
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