main Episode #58 Mar 28, 2009 00:50:11

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[0:00] This week we discuss Kiefer Sutherland in Mirrors, the film that decided that the most scary part of any horror movie is that part where something unexpected is seen in a mirror, and said, let's just make a whole movie of that.
[0:30] Welcome to the Flophouse! This is Stuart Wellington. This is Dan McCoy. This is Elliot Kaelin. Chip-chip, here we go, and so forth. Wait, are you English? I am today. It's St. Patrick's Day, the day we celebrate England in all its glory.
[1:00] No, that's not. That's not. No, it's a totally different island.
[1:03] Oh, Jamaica Day? Is that today?
[1:06] Wait, was St. Patrick magical?
[1:09] Yes, he's a saint. He had to perform three miracles to be a saint.
[1:13] But does that, are they magic?
[1:15] They're masters of the mystic arts.
[1:17] It depends on whether you would say that the power of Christ is magic or something far greater.
[1:23] Do you think it's a magic trick to be able to remove snakes from an island?
[1:28] Like a shaman?
[1:30] He might have been a shaman, like Santa Claus, yeah. Or that character from Ernest Goes to Camp.
[1:35] So, what's going on today, Dan? Other than, you know, St. Patrick's cheer.
[1:40] Well, what's going on is that we watched a little movie.
[1:43] Oh, right.
[1:44] Called Mirrors.
[1:45] Oh, nice.
[1:46] Mirrors.
[1:47] Mirrors.
[1:48] Starring Kiefer Sutherland.
[1:49] Sutherland.
[1:50] And Amy Smart.
[1:52] Smart.
[1:53] Ames.
[1:54] Nice. This was a great movie.
[1:57] Was it?
[1:58] Well, the thing is that it had, well, I mean, it was a great movie if you base the quality of a movie on how appropriate the title is.
[2:08] Yeah.
[2:09] Yes, then this was the greatest movie ever made.
[2:11] Because there's a lot of stuff about mirrors in this movie.
[2:13] Yeah, I think there's probably, I wouldn't say it's an exaggeration to say that there's a mirror in every scene of this movie.
[2:19] This movie has the kind of one-to-one relationship between its plot and its title that you usually only find in porn.
[2:26] Where the title tells you what you're going to find in the movie.
[2:29] Wait, can you be more explicit about that?
[2:32] I won't get too explicit, but it's called like Naughty Nurses.
[2:35] You're going to find some nurses having sex.
[2:37] Probably.
[2:38] Or like Mighty Milkmaids might have lactating women.
[2:41] Or just nurses that have malpractice suits brought against them.
[2:44] Yeah, well, that wouldn't really be porn.
[2:46] Yeah.
[2:47] It depends.
[2:48] Unless they settle the malpractice suits out of court with low jobs.
[2:52] A legal system at work.
[2:55] Most plaintiffs would go for it.
[2:57] Or rim jobs.
[2:58] All right.
[2:59] Too explicit.
[3:01] So, Mirrors, huh?
[3:02] Starring Kiefer Sutherland, Amy Smart, and others.
[3:05] Kiefer Sutherland was in Young Guns, right?
[3:07] It's true.
[3:08] That has nothing to do with the movie.
[3:10] I prefer to think of him as Kiefer Sutherland of the cowboy way.
[3:14] Wait, Keith Sutherland?
[3:16] Keith or Sutherland.
[3:17] Son of Don Al Sutherland.
[3:20] He's been a little typecast lately, ever since he was on that 24 Hours show.
[3:24] Ever since he's been a successful actor on a successful television show, he's been typecast.
[3:29] Yeah, everybody thinks that he's always this hard-nosed FBI agent guy who's only got 24 hours to live or something.
[3:39] He's got to spend a lot of time talking on the phone.
[3:42] It'd be great if that was the premise.
[3:43] And then by the fourth season, it's like, you only have 24 hours to live again?
[3:47] It's like, Mr. President, I'm going to need the antidote right away.
[3:51] Nope, not until you finish the case.
[3:53] You can't do that this time, Keith Sutherland.
[3:58] Wait, so his character is named Keith Sutherland?
[4:02] Yeah, it's hard.
[4:04] It's like Jerry Seinfeld playing himself.
[4:08] When he played Jeremy Seinfeld.
[4:11] Okay, this is the most gibberish we've started off a podcast with.
[4:15] Mirrors is a fairly bland film.
[4:17] If anyone's tuning in to the Flophouse, that episode, I think this is 34, it's going to be very good.
[4:24] Okay, well, the story here is that we watched this shitty movie, and now we're going to talk about it for a little while.
[4:30] What's the story of the movie, though? What happens in the film?
[4:32] Okay, stick with me.
[4:34] Basically, this dude totally needs to get a job, so he gets a job as a...
[4:39] He's a former police officer who's dealing with alcohol problems.
[4:42] Okay, so he needs a job because he's a former police officer,
[4:46] and his pretty hot wife doesn't like him seeing his kids because he's got a drinking problem, I think.
[4:52] And he's taking psychological medication.
[4:54] Yeah, so he starts...
[4:55] He starts to have some rage issues, maybe.
[4:57] Yeah, so he starts working at this burned-up old department store in the middle of Manhattan.
[5:02] The Mayflower.
[5:03] Yeah, which I think used to be a sanitarium or something?
[5:07] It was a sanitarium, then it was converted into a department store, and then it burned down in the 50s.
[5:11] And this prime piece of real estate...
[5:13] Wait, was it an Indian burial ground, too?
[5:15] No, I don't think so.
[5:16] Okay.
[5:17] This is a building. It's huge. It's an enormous building on 6th Avenue in the 20s.
[5:21] And it's not just that there's a building. The building is surrounded by yards.
[5:25] It has a fair amount of landscaped land around it, and it's insane that this building has been...
[5:30] This spot has lain fallow, as Dan put it, for 50 years.
[5:34] In the middle of Manhattan.
[5:35] Well, I mean, I don't think the ghosts that inhabit the building were going to sell.
[5:39] But Chelsea, a very valuable piece of real estate.
[5:43] So Keith gets his job at this department store.
[5:48] His name is Matt Carson in the movie.
[5:50] Yeah, and he...
[5:51] It's a good Western name.
[5:52] Yeah, he starts seeing things, like he starts seeing shit in the mirrors.
[5:57] Like burned-up bodies and stuff.
[5:58] Yeah, and he does a little bit of research, and then he realized that he starts seeing shit outside of the department store.
[6:04] But still in mirrors.
[6:05] Yeah, it's all magic.
[6:06] And mirrors are following him around.
[6:08] Pretty quickly, he realizes the mirrors are the problem.
[6:11] And then he thinks, like, the mirrors are going to...
[6:14] It's like Sister tries to tell him...
[6:15] Where did my life go wrong?
[6:16] He's staying with his sister, and she tells him he's crazy and he should quit his job.
[6:20] And he's like, fuck that, I need this job.
[6:22] And then a mirror version of her makes her rip her own jaw off in a totally awesome scene.
[6:28] The first scene of the movie is a guy, he's running away from mirrors.
[6:32] And a mirror image of himself cuts his throat, so his throat also opens up.
[6:37] So in this one, in the mirror, this mirror version of Amy Smart starts ripping her own jaw off.
[6:41] And Amy Smart, her jaw also gets ripped off.
[6:44] It's pretty awesome and kind of gross.
[6:46] It's very gross.
[6:47] So, watch it.
[6:50] Okay, moving forward.
[6:53] Gabe Rossellin totally flips out.
[6:55] He's like, what?
[6:56] My sister?
[6:58] But you're not even in the department store.
[7:01] So he goes to his wife's house and starts painting over the mirrors.
[7:04] Yeah, because that's the solve.
[7:05] To protect his wife and children.
[7:06] So he tries to break the mirrors.
[7:07] And when he shoots the mirrors, they immediately heal.
[7:09] Well, the mirrors in the department store do.
[7:11] Yeah, because of their magic.
[7:12] Yeah.
[7:13] Oh, yeah, so he's painting over mirrors.
[7:15] His ex-wife thinks he's crazy.
[7:18] And then he proves he's not crazy somehow.
[7:21] I don't remember.
[7:22] He goes and, like, the mirror gives him a name.
[7:25] The mirror, everyone who's been a security guard at this department store,
[7:29] the mirrors have been telling them to find this person with this name.
[7:33] What is it?
[7:35] Yeah, something like that.
[7:36] And they haven't been able to, so it's been killing their families.
[7:39] His wife, he tries to find this Eseker person.
[7:41] He has a friend in the police force who's helping him do research,
[7:43] and his wife starts seeing things in mirrors also.
[7:45] You would think the mirrors would be a little more explicit.
[7:48] Like, after the first or second security guard totally fucks up,
[7:51] they'd be like, it's Anna, Anna Eseker, not just Eseker.
[7:55] That's the problem with these kinds of ghost movies is it's like the ghost needs you to do something to help them,
[8:00] but the only way for them to get the message across is apparently scaring you in, like, very obscure ways.
[8:06] It's like by making clocks spin backwards or something, and you're like, oh, I should have known.
[8:12] They're using the Socratic ghost method.
[8:15] They know that if the person comes to the answer on their own, it will mean more to them.
[8:20] It's more learning.
[8:22] It's experiential.
[8:24] They're like, listen, I'm a ghost.
[8:26] I'm looking for Anna Eseker so I can take her body back over.
[8:29] Do me a solid.
[8:30] I won't hurt your family.
[8:31] Well, I think the journey is just as important as the solution for the demon ghost thing.
[8:36] Yeah, and it's important that someone's jaw gets ripped off.
[8:38] Yeah, that shit was awesome.
[8:40] Okay, but he finds out who Anna Eseker is.
[8:42] So he goes and tracks her down.
[8:44] Turns out she used to be a hillbilly.
[8:46] A Pennsylvania hillbilly, yes.
[8:48] And then she was like a mental institute person.
[8:52] She was possessed by some sort of evil force as a kid, was put into the mental institution, and her death was faked.
[8:59] Oh, I didn't remember that part.
[9:03] Really, she left the institution, lived with her family a little longer because she was cured, and then she disappeared and became a nun.
[9:10] Yeah, because there's problems with mirrors.
[9:12] And let me point out that in rapid succession, the film ran through three horror movie cliche explanations.
[9:20] One, woman in sanitarium – or wait, actually one, hillbillies.
[9:24] Two, woman in sanitarium.
[9:26] Three, Catholics.
[9:28] Yep.
[9:29] It was like one after another.
[9:31] Body blow, body blow, shot to the jaw.
[9:33] It was like breaking a bunch of mirrors.
[9:35] Yeah.
[9:36] And so it turns out that she explains that she had a demon inside of her.
[9:42] Absolutely.
[9:43] She went to the sanitarium, and the doctor had a revolutionary new method for curing people with schizophrenia.
[9:48] Involving?
[9:49] Sit them in a room full of mirrors, strap them in a chair, and just force them to look at themselves for a while.
[9:54] Yeah, well, Elliot, schizophrenics just really need to think about what they've done.
[9:58] Apparently.
[9:59] Yeah, it's in the heart.
[10:00] light of mirrors
[10:02] only then can you realize that you're crazy and he has a
[10:05] the only way i think all that's what i'm i'm crazy look at me and i don't even
[10:09] and i look at myself on the outside i seem crazy
[10:12] the only way i can buy it is it was the fifties and nobody knew anything about
[10:15] psychiatry that they thought was all for knowledge and shit
[10:18] well that's what seventy years earlier and i can buy that more than what i am
[10:22] by what happened next which is apparently a hundred years ago for some
[10:25] reason the mirrors just sucked the demon out of her and trapped them in mirror
[10:28] world yes so the demon was sucked out of her i don't know what is that a movie
[10:32] mirror world
[10:33] uh... your mask you're thinking there is a there is a book called mirror world
[10:37] no that's dreamscape
[10:39] no it's a big overheaded guy you're thinking of the russian satellite mirror
[10:44] no that's actually not what i'm thinking of i'm thinking of river world by the late philip jose farmer
[10:48] no flatland
[10:50] flatliners
[10:52] wait a minute with keith sutherland oh my god
[10:56] and kevin bacon anyway so the demon got sucked out of her now it's living in
[10:59] mirrors and it wants her back
[11:01] it's been trying to
[11:03] explain this to security guards by killing them and it hasn't been getting
[11:06] through yeah luckily keefer is a cut above the rest i need to uh... like i
[11:10] kind of want to sit that demon down and start thinking about its victory
[11:13] conditions like demon what you know
[11:15] what are you trying to achieve are you trying to actually solve something so you should probably stop
[11:19] i mean granted
[11:21] wait it's in love? that's my guess it's in love with anna essiker
[11:23] now the problem is i guess is that it it gets frustrated really easily so it
[11:28] just makes people kill themselves in mirrors or something well it's it's not
[11:32] very it's not a good
[11:33] it's not good at thinking things through this demon it has fits of rage
[11:36] yeah and i mean it's uh... in many ways it's like our protagonist it's like
[11:40] almost like a mirror of him
[11:42] not really anyway
[11:43] so
[11:45] yeah because of the rage anyway meanwhile at home it doesn't look like him it looks like a demon
[11:49] yeah keefer sutherland's son has
[11:52] chipped away the paint over the mirrors
[11:54] because
[11:55] he is friendly with this mirror demon and is luring him to try to get to the
[11:59] family
[12:00] it starts attacking the family
[12:02] keefer sutherland finds the nun hey wait was that the scene where the ex-wife gets
[12:06] all wet
[12:07] yeah eventually throughout the movie the ex-wife shows more and more cleavage as
[12:11] the film goes on
[12:13] uh... and eventually she's just wearing a really wet shirt it's almost like
[12:17] the story i heard about uh... wally wood and power girl
[12:21] where he just kept increasing the size of her bust to see whether anyone would
[12:24] ever notice
[12:25] and they never did and that's why power girl uh... has such a huge ridiculous
[12:29] wreck is a superhero whose main characteristic is a huge wreck yeah
[12:33] it seemed like
[12:34] uh... alejandra aha
[12:36] the director of this uh... was was pulling the same yeah and in between every shot
[12:40] he's like he's reaching over and pulling that neckline down a little bit
[12:44] i think what it is is it's building up you know the payoff at the end you're
[12:47] like
[12:48] it's really important by the end you're like man it's really important that he wins
[12:51] cuz
[12:52] that's some great cleavage yeah that's a nice set that's what he's fighting for
[12:56] yeah i mean that's uh... that's why we fight
[12:58] yeah exactly for those rounders
[13:00] uh... that's what that movie's about right the movie rounders yeah
[13:05] uh... i might have to rent it now
[13:08] uh...
[13:09] so she's trying to save her kids from this evil mirror thing that's chasing
[13:12] after her
[13:14] and he takes the nun at gunpoint because she refuses to come with him takes her
[13:17] back to the department store
[13:19] and then and his wife makes a really weird calls like
[13:23] there's a lot of times where she she's uh... think she sees her son and you're
[13:26] like
[13:27] yeah lady that's clearly a mirror kid like your son's nowhere around here what
[13:31] are you doing
[13:32] oh now it cut your face what do you fucking deserve that she calls him and
[13:35] she's like i'm so scared he's like what's going on there
[13:38] i'm so scared just tell me what's going on i'm so scared
[13:41] okay listen
[13:42] you're not getting through to me you gotta tell me in more descriptive terms
[13:45] then he says i'll be right there
[13:47] but then he takes the nun to the department store yeah that's kind of weird
[13:50] that's a weird call on his part he should have dropped the nun off yes but anyway he
[13:54] takes her to the department store straps her in the mirror chair
[13:57] the mirrors explode you know the demon comes back into her the mirrors explode
[14:01] outwards which was awesome seemingly shredding the hell out of her yeah she
[14:04] like she vaporizes in a cloud of blood
[14:07] but then if you want to see a movie where a nun vaporizes in a cloud of blood
[14:11] i think the demon was really waiting for that like
[14:15] he had serious nun blue balls i guess and now this is where the movie
[14:19] usually would end keeper sutherland escapes maybe the department store falls
[14:23] apart and he reaches his family
[14:25] but the movie instead was like
[14:27] i kind of want there to be a hyperactive fight scene between keeper sutherland and
[14:31] the demon
[14:32] uh... so in the midst of a collapsing tunnel collapsing tunnel and fire
[14:36] everywhere explosions the nun lady comes back as maybe one of the army of
[14:41] darkness evil dead two ghouls or like a resonant evil ghoul yeah combination
[14:45] there's a little more cgi than army of darkness yeah which does make it scarier
[14:49] there's a lot of bad cgi in this and they fight
[14:52] forever and she throws keeper sutherland through a brick wall and he's fine
[14:57] and it ends literally with him
[14:59] impaling her on a steam pipe just like at the end of commando
[15:02] yeah like the scenes where she's throwing him through a brick wall have the
[15:06] like level of realism as an episode of smallville
[15:10] but it kind of turns into an evil dead movie by that point
[15:14] all it needed was keeper sutherland to be like come on baby let's do this thing you know
[15:17] or like
[15:18] impaling him in that hurt and insane groove you got real ugly
[15:22] none or i don't know
[15:24] there's all kinds of explosions and then what happens to keeper
[15:27] well he gets smashed by a rock or something i think
[15:29] and then
[15:31] then he like wakes up right the twist ending no he wakes up and he's walking around
[15:36] he's walking around and
[15:38] uh...
[15:39] stewart did you notice anything strange about the words
[15:43] well i mean woke up
[15:45] uh... it looked like everything was backwards but i thought i'd just been
[15:48] drinking a lot no everything was backwards because now he's trapped in
[15:51] the mirrors
[15:53] wait what? for some reason
[15:56] come on
[15:57] no and then cut to credits
[16:02] that's it that's the end of the movie the hell you say but it's like it feels like
[16:08] it feels like a movie that the script ended
[16:12] come on
[16:15] what are you talking about that's how it ends
[16:18] you watched it with us you watched it with us that's how it ended
[16:22] come on
[16:25] what are you talking about that was the end of the movie
[16:30] wait that's the end? yes
[16:32] come on what are you talking about
[16:37] wait he's a ghost now? no he's not necessarily a ghost he's trapped in the mirror world though
[16:41] wait but he's like walking around
[16:43] he's walking around but he's in a mirror you know he's in the reverse image of the
[16:46] world around him come on that doesn't make sense
[16:49] no it doesn't but it's still the end of the movie
[16:52] wait what?
[16:54] wait is he a demon? no he's not a demon he's just himself
[16:58] come on that doesn't make any sense
[17:00] the movie it feels like the movie
[17:02] probably originally ended at the mirrors all exploding and the nun
[17:06] wait wait wait
[17:09] wait before the nun became a demon or before when the nun got shredded?
[17:13] right when the nun got shredded
[17:15] yeah that would have been awesome
[17:18] and then they threw a demon fight scene in
[17:21] yeah I think there's like a scene where you know the nun gets shredded a couple
[17:25] mirrors explode
[17:26] cut to Keith Sutherland going
[17:28] yes and then like it
[17:31] then that's the movie
[17:33] and they did test audiences and it's like you know audiences didn't get enough closure here
[17:38] one thing I really love about when he puts her in the chair by the way is
[17:43] he's brought this nun at gunpoint
[17:47] from you know the nunnery
[17:49] from Pennsylvania to New York
[17:50] yeah and made her
[17:53] made her sit in this chair because the demons want her back in order to save his family
[17:58] and then he says thank you
[18:00] as if this was a sacrifice she decided to make
[18:03] which would have made sense if
[18:05] you know like I mean she is a nun but
[18:07] that never happened
[18:09] he'd forced her
[18:11] she's also a really selfish nun he asked her for help save his family
[18:13] and she goes no
[18:15] and then he shows her a picture of his family
[18:17] he's like these are the only thing that matter in the world to me
[18:19] and she goes no I'm sorry
[18:21] and then he puts a gun at her and says
[18:23] now you'll come with me
[18:25] was she afraid that the demons would be able to get out if she returned
[18:27] what kind of shit
[18:29] what kind of shit did she do
[18:31] when she was like a little girl and possessed
[18:33] she was just like kinda bit people
[18:35] she was fuckin weird right
[18:37] it's not like she was like a super powerful person or something
[18:39] well she was but she had more strength than an average little girl
[18:41] but she was just kind of a handful
[18:43] she was like problem child
[18:45] like Clifford
[18:47] yes like Clifford with Martin Short
[18:49] wait like the good son
[18:51] yeah like the good son
[18:53] Elijah Wood and Macaulay Culkin
[18:55] this is a very quick side note
[18:57] but I remember when Martin Short was on David Letterman's show
[18:59] to promote Clifford
[19:01] and Letterman keeps saying
[19:03] well I saw the movie last night it's really funny
[19:05] I saw it last night it's really funny
[19:07] and I don't know how old I was maybe like 13 or 14
[19:09] but realizing like wait a minute
[19:11] he didn't see that movie
[19:13] that movie looks terrible
[19:15] he can't be saying it's funny really
[19:17] that's when I got disillusioned with David Letterman
[19:19] yeah
[19:21] that's when I got disillusioned with David Letterman
[19:23] so I know that you might think that this movie was flawless
[19:25] listening
[19:27] but there were some problems
[19:29] really
[19:31] it's very boring at times
[19:33] yeah well there were long scenes of Clifford
[19:35] just walking around
[19:37] just walking through the department store
[19:39] looking at things with his flashlight
[19:41] and you're probably thinking like oh walking through the department store
[19:43] there's probably a montage of him trying on different outfits
[19:45] set to a song
[19:47] no there wasn't
[19:49] there could have at least been one opening montage of that
[19:51] there could have at least been one opening montage of that
[19:53] so it kind of puts you at ease
[19:55] you've heard dancing with the charred mannequins
[19:57] you've heard dancing with the charred mannequins
[19:59] yeah
[20:00] or like looking around the like
[20:01] why so glum bernie face mannequins
[20:04] well
[20:05] keeper puts way too much effort into security guard job yeah
[20:09] i was looking at the same serious
[20:11] even from the start
[20:12] he's like
[20:13] uh... okay this abandoned building
[20:16] that i am like the one security guard hired to look after
[20:20] and i don't know does it really matter that he like goes through those makes
[20:24] his rounds all the time and then once he discovers the place is haunted
[20:27] he seems really committed
[20:29] to tracking it down yeah i don't like a member of the scooby
[20:32] you guys easily so i he's like the security guard that scrooge mcduck
[20:35] should hire to guard his fucking money back to keep the breedable is out of
[20:38] time
[20:39] because he's fucking serious man it's his confidence things he does i smell
[20:42] mystery
[20:43] they have to get to the bottom of this let's go down to the cool flooded
[20:46] basement
[20:47] that is a very water-damaged
[20:49] it's like that that also seen from the movie mind hunters with renee harlan
[20:53] you're talking about that there is no that's really a movie where uh...
[20:57] where the uh... killer i think it's johnnie lee miller sorry to spoil it
[21:01] uh... like sets of these like a room goldberg you ask like
[21:05] kills people are listening to this podcast here about mirrors and this
[21:10] room mind hunters for yeah but he said i would like to think the people are
[21:14] listening this podcast have the taste of already seen mine hunters a few times
[21:18] like me a few times
[21:20] yeah absolutely
[21:21] there's a light bulb as a dvd double pack with deeply see or something
[21:25] it's mine hunters the one where they're on like a trip there are like a retreat
[21:28] well they're all fbi's yes they're being trained to be serial hit the serial
[21:32] killer catchers
[21:33] and and is a local day that he is in that area
[21:37] uh... just like the blue sea
[21:38] and christian bale awake now christian slater
[21:41] and said christian bale they're very similar and uh... approach they're very
[21:45] similar in first name
[21:47] uh... damn other flaws we think you have been there's
[21:49] i've got another thing about my daughter not enough mirrors and mirrors
[21:54] uh...
[21:55] no i would say that there's a plethora of mary lee one has an happy as i was
[21:58] that the scene of any smart naked was followed me after by any smarts job in
[22:03] ripped off her head yeah i mean those two things separately would have been
[22:06] great for you
[22:07] yeah gather there's some position there's something about uh... death
[22:11] scene in a car movie is made much worse for me if it's done to a naked lady
[22:16] like to a lady with clothes on it's different but
[22:18] do you feel it's like a waste or something
[22:21] i don't know exactly what it is almost like it makes it possible to enjoy
[22:23] nudity if something gory is happening during the scene
[22:27] it's going to be harder to rewind it
[22:29] to to watch the movie and pleasure yourself or something is that what you're talking about
[22:32] well i mean you guys were in the room so i was going to do that
[22:35] well maybe later right
[22:37] maybe later on dance tv
[22:42] i think there's maybe some implicit misogyny in watching a naked lady die
[22:46] so i think the problem i had with the movie is that it reminded me
[22:50] too much of uh... of various other asian horror movies
[22:54] and that it wasn't very good and uh... it was that it was that type of idea
[22:58] like
[22:59] uh... there's this super supernatural thing that's causing all these problems
[23:03] let's solve the mystery
[23:05] okay the mystery solved because the ghost just wanted one thing that's why
[23:08] i was killing people okay the movie's over yay that's not even like an
[23:11] asian movies that run with it but that used i mean that's
[23:14] an older trope
[23:15] yeah but i don't have like one thing they have to get them out of the what's
[23:18] the one with uh...
[23:19] charles loughton reese a coward ghost and he has to inspire heroism cowardly
[23:23] askew snow it's like a canterbury
[23:25] spoke goes to something like that i think you're thinking of the ring yes
[23:28] the ring that's exactly what i'm thinking of so but like him but maybe
[23:32] it's just because that's like the plot like i'm being bombarded by bullshit
[23:36] asian horror movies like yeah there's a lot of them right now and this one is
[23:39] so dan you were saying that the director said it wasn't a remake of the
[23:42] a movie yeah that is the director
[23:45] i went on wikipedia and where uh... he had done an interview where he's like
[23:50] uh... this is not a remake of the south korean horror film into the mirror
[23:55] but then the credits for the film
[23:58] credit the film into the mirror
[24:00] based completely on the film uh... into the mirror
[24:04] who are you going to believe the director of the film or the credits of the film that the
[24:08] director director i mean the director was french so maybe is misquoted
[24:12] uh... yeah i mean i was really disappointed because i really liked some
[24:16] other movies that the director alohomora aha
[24:20] that's a pronounced name and he's the director who's always surprising people
[24:24] yet he uh... are
[24:27] i really like that i remember and a lot of uh...
[24:30] i really liked high-tension which is a movie he made doesn't seem uh...
[24:35] i like it exclusively for the twist
[24:38] not the gore or the masturbation scene
[24:41] but just the twist and then he also made that hills have eyes remake which was
[24:46] uh... really gory and pretty awesome
[24:48] so i was kind of hoping this would also follow the trend of having a great twist
[24:53] and being really gory and awesome it had a great twist he's stuck in the mirror at the end
[24:57] wait what?
[25:00] he gets trapped in the mirror and that's why the writing is backwards
[25:04] come on what are you talking about?
[25:06] wait that's why the writing was backwards? yes because he's trapped in the mirror
[25:09] i thought like the rock hit him on the head and he was retarded or something
[25:12] no
[25:13] that's a very different understanding of the film
[25:15] i was going to say because that was really sad
[25:19] how's he going to support his family? it's like flowers for alginon
[25:23] yeah it's exactly like flowers for alginon
[25:26] okay so uh... yeah i was really hoping for a good movie and
[25:30] this was not this was we've seen worse but this was not very good
[25:34] no no it wasn't
[25:35] uh... and it felt very padded at times yeah there's some like
[25:39] i think i kind of like the fact that they make a point to have the main
[25:43] character like kind of addicted to these weird pills that might make him
[25:47] hallucinate
[25:49] but they didn't really play that up enough they gave the other characters
[25:53] just enough reason not to believe him
[25:55] until mirror shit started happening
[25:58] until they got their jaw ripped off by themselves
[26:01] the problem with that though is
[26:03] it was one of these horror movies where no one believes the main character and
[26:07] the main character does
[26:08] increasingly crazy things like a boy who cried mirrors like an episode of twenty four
[26:11] hours
[26:14] he runs to the house and he takes out all the mirrors and he's like
[26:18] he takes his wife and he's like
[26:19] watch this and shoots the mirrors and the mirrors don't heal themselves and he
[26:23] looks like a crazy person who's out on the lawn shooting mirrors
[26:27] uh... in like a suburban neighborhood that's crazy
[26:30] but then
[26:31] almost immediately after that happens
[26:33] the mirrors are always so judgmental i would shoot them
[26:37] why do you make me look fat?
[26:40] why do you make me look like keith or sullivan?
[26:44] it's impossible to not say keither when you say his name
[26:47] keifer is such a weird name
[26:49] but almost immediately after that the mother character
[26:53] sees her son in the mirror like her son's
[26:56] sitting in front of the mirror and sees the reflection but then the sun gets up
[26:59] and the reflection is still there
[27:01] and
[27:02] you're kind of like
[27:03] mirrors why have you stopped being coy all of a sudden? why aren't you playing this
[27:07] cat and mouse game? the mirrors knew that it was time for the act to reveal
[27:10] yeah so act three could kick in
[27:12] i mean it's not
[27:13] it's a this is a very
[27:15] mechanical movie in a lot of ways things happen exactly when they're supposed to
[27:18] happen the story chugs along the story takes its time at times but it chugs along
[27:22] otherwise in terms of structure
[27:24] and the only real surprise is at the end when there's that huge fight with the demon
[27:28] and the reason it's a surprise is that tonally it does not fit anything that you've seen
[27:31] it's like you're watching
[27:33] kind of for the most part there are scares in it but this very subdued like
[27:37] somber movie
[27:38] and then they throw in a big action scene at the end yeah where he gets thrown through an awesome
[27:42] styrofoam brick wall thrown through a brick wall and he's just firing his gun wildly at this
[27:46] monster
[27:47] pow pow pow
[27:49] it's like an episode of uh... the resident evil video game show yeah and i
[27:52] mean don't get me wrong that was the best scene in the entire movie yeah it was awesome
[27:56] now my favorite is when she rips her own jaw off
[27:58] yeah that was gross yeah that was super gross
[28:02] that was pretty cool
[28:03] if i had been in a movie theater while watching it i probably would have laughed
[28:07] aloud
[28:09] exactly the reaction they were going for yeah that same like level of horror
[28:13] you would have yelled out
[28:15] that's a real jaw breaker and then looked around to see if anyone else was laughing with you
[28:21] yep and the only person in the theater who would have been laughing was the fucking
[28:24] crip keeper
[28:27] oh stewart
[28:29] i can barely get behind you stewart
[28:31] i would have uh... spoo-gurt
[28:34] hailington
[28:35] i would have gone to give him a high five and he would have high fived me with a severed hand
[28:42] that guy's awesome
[28:44] that's one of my favorite television characters stewart you make me laugh my head off
[28:48] his head falls off
[28:52] do do do do do do do
[28:55] that would be great if the crip keeper
[28:59] i would like it if the crip keeper
[29:00] uh... existed in real life
[29:03] but he just went around making puns
[29:05] and he had a boom box of his own songs afterwards
[29:08] i think that's
[29:11] that's your screenplay pitch
[29:13] the crip keeper is down on his luck and he's got to come back
[29:17] the crip keeper is shut down
[29:19] oh man what a good movie
[29:20] i'd watch that shit
[29:23] the crip keeper movie that we're pitching
[29:25] yeah i'd be in it right? we covered that right?
[29:29] you would be in the beginning
[29:31] what would the title be?
[29:33] uh... i'm not smart enough right now
[29:36] out of the crypts dead again
[29:40] dead alive
[29:41] no there's a movie called that
[29:44] dead there's a movie called that dead ringers dead reckoning there's a movie
[29:47] called that mister dead body parts
[29:50] body parts? the lawn mower man? what about crypt keeper the movie? what about bob?
[29:56] alright
[29:57] what about bob?
[29:58] what about shannon louis?
[30:00] the rules of the game
[30:01] bernie and june
[30:02] even before operation double drop before this is a run
[30:06] i'm not going to break it we're breaking our own record
[30:09] for just mentioning other movies
[30:11] nowadays uh...
[30:14] and so there's a little bit of a man is a good movie
[30:18] this it was better than american carol
[30:20] than an american tail fibles goes west and i don't know if it's that good that
[30:24] good
[30:24] yeah i don't know if there's a lot uh... more to dig into now this is a
[30:28] pretty this is a pretty s shallow film especially since elliott needs to go to
[30:32] uruguay soon
[30:34] so uh... i'm not going to night yeah we're going to ruin the podcast elliott
[30:39] i'm not flying out till friday night uh... i just didn't want to stay
[30:42] too late tonight so i'd be rested up for the trip
[30:45] so anyway
[30:47] so should we do our ratings of the movie now?
[30:49] what were the ratings again dan? uh... is this a good bad movie a bad bad movie
[30:54] or a movie that you
[30:56] may have liked a little bit
[30:58] i'm gonna say
[31:00] uh... it's a hard one
[31:02] bad bad movie but there are glimmers of fun things in it like i don't wouldn't
[31:06] go so far as to say good bad movie because
[31:08] it's not particularly funny like it's not so crazy that it's funny but it's
[31:12] not a good movie but i mean girl rips her own jaw off
[31:16] there's a huge fight scene at the end between keifer sutherland and a demon nun
[31:19] like there are a couple moments there that are
[31:21] that are worthwhile
[31:23] if you like that sort of thing but overall it's not great i give it you know
[31:26] if there's a level between good bad and
[31:28] and good or you know off to the side
[31:31] yeah i would say that it's a whenever keifer sutherland is just walking around
[31:36] the uh... department store
[31:38] or whenever he's doing police work
[31:40] it's a bad bad movie and then the rest of the movie
[31:44] i kinda like
[31:45] because you know fun things will happen
[31:48] yeah there's some really shitty cgi which
[31:51] like every every time the cgi came on the movie dropped a couple points in my
[31:56] book it did have a really good twist at the end i think we already covered that
[32:00] and what was that twist
[32:01] uh...
[32:02] something about uh... demon
[32:04] no there's one after that
[32:06] i did uh... i don't know
[32:08] but yeah i think i'm going to have to agree with you guys like this is a bad bad movie
[32:12] but there are
[32:14] there's a couple moments that i think it tries so hard to almost get out of
[32:18] there are a couple moments of real imagination
[32:20] yeah there's moments that you're glad you saw stewart i can see it in your eyes
[32:24] yeah well of course the jaw being ripped off
[32:28] uh... the demon uh... being vaporized
[32:32] the slow motion montage of mirrors exploding one after another and like i
[32:38] think you see the same one explode like four times
[32:41] which is like okay camera two
[32:44] camera three
[32:46] back to the nun camera four woman holds child perfect movie
[32:52] that's the whole thing with the scene with all the mirrors exploding back to keifer doing a reaction shot
[32:56] and the nun is vaporized
[33:00] you expect to see the mirrors explode but you don't expect the nun's body to
[33:04] basically blow up
[33:06] and then they cut to something else and then they show you that shot again as if
[33:08] the movie is like
[33:10] yeah you didn't imagine her body just vaporized
[33:14] in spite of the fact that her body was totally vaporized
[33:16] i bet the original script had a moment where as the mirrors are exploding
[33:19] there's like a slow motion shot of mirror flying toward the nun and you
[33:24] seeing the nun's face reflected in the mirror yeah and she turns the camera and she goes
[33:28] this isn't going to feel good and she goes
[33:30] yowza
[33:32] uh oh
[33:34] she does a spit take from the yoohoo she's drinking
[33:37] it's a crazy straw
[33:38] yeah it's really weird
[33:40] but uh... yeah there's some fun moments in an otherwise
[33:43] very boring movie
[33:44] so um...
[33:45] all around good review so what's going on dan
[33:48] uh... i've got a few uh... short you look like something's on your mind
[33:52] i've got a few short messages from uh... listeners oh cool i like listeners first
[33:56] of all jen last name withheld uh... wrote back
[33:59] uh... you may remember her as the uh... woman
[34:03] who has a young daughter who likes to sing the song from wall-e oh yeah that's
[34:07] right oh ouch that terrible peter gabriel song that i so i so uncaringly
[34:11] talked about how bad i thought
[34:13] she says please reassure elliot that i have my daughter
[34:17] on a strict music diet to counteract any unfortunate facts due to peter gabriel
[34:20] exposure
[34:21] for every disney princess song she hears she then has to listen to something from my
[34:24] riot girl collection
[34:26] actually she listens mostly to they might be giants kids music which is good
[34:29] for both our sakes uh... they won a grammy
[34:32] that's true get that kid listening to some danzig did they win a grammy? danzig? yeah probably
[34:38] but uh...
[34:39] you just said they won a grammy
[34:41] yeah no we're talking about they might be giants yeah oh i thought you were talking about danzig
[34:45] no danzig never won a grammy what are you talking about he's great
[34:48] well anyway you're saying he looks like wolverine
[34:51] uh... he doesn't look like wolverine she also sent a link to apparently they're making a marmaduke
[34:57] film really and she says uh... that you should dust off your ziggy pitch
[35:01] so i'm gonna put that marmaduke uh... link up on the blog yeah
[35:05] when are they gonna make the uh... that what's that the pirate one is that over
[35:10] what's the pirate comic strip are you thinking of the french foreign legion
[35:13] no the horrible they're vikings no there's the one with the pirates that are like
[35:18] poorly drawn i don't think i've seen that one oh for better or for worse
[35:22] maybe uh... rose is rose
[35:25] where are they making that shit
[35:27] rhymes with orange
[35:30] pearls before swine
[35:31] yep those are all great shylock fox
[35:35] and max mouse
[35:36] oh what a great movie i hear robert downey jr. is gonna be in that i'm so
[35:39] surprised in the eighties they didn't make a mark trail movie
[35:42] with like uh... steve gutenberg as mark trail or something like that that would have been awesome
[35:47] or you know somebody bert reynolds
[35:49] or for that matter like to go back and like that should have been like a nineteen
[35:52] sixties disney film like dean martin should have been mark trailer
[35:55] or not dean martin dean jones
[35:57] dean martin would have been an interesting movie look over there bobby you see it's a bear
[36:01] don't touch him
[36:04] glug glug glug glug
[36:06] frankie frankie put that vulture egg down it's endangered what do you have in your canteen there mark
[36:12] don't worry about it it's adult apple juice don't worry
[36:15] that would have been a good movie just feeding my addiction
[36:19] let me sing you a song
[36:20] don't poach
[36:22] animals when the moon hits your eye like a big
[36:26] spotted owl that's not rare in these parts look at it boy
[36:31] my dean martin is also my bin crosby
[36:34] so spotted owl where are you from not talking eh?
[36:39] slap him around frank
[36:41] anyway
[36:42] so uh... look forward to the marmaduke movies the take away from that
[36:46] i hope it's a cgi dog that's all i can say i hope it's a guy in a costume
[36:51] that's a movie i'd pay to see if it was a marmaduke costume and it was a guy in a very poorly dressed costume
[36:56] i hope it's a guy in a costume i hope it's two guys in a costume like a pantomime whore
[36:59] i hope it's jamie kennedy in a costume with cgi people
[37:05] so check it out
[37:07] check it out pixar
[37:11] i love the idea of a movie where everything is cgi except for the thing that should be cgi
[37:16] it's like a movie about a dinosaur and everything is cgi except they use a person in just makeup as the dinosaur
[37:23] or like an animatronic dinosaur
[37:26] in a cgi world of people that's the denver the last dinosaur movie
[37:31] that's like wait you're not supposed to talk about denver the next dinosaur
[37:35] wait denver the next dinosaur?
[37:38] what were you saying dan?
[37:39] todd haynes should make that movie or something someone should do a real deconstruction of it
[37:44] yeah todd salons should make the dinosaur movie
[37:47] uh... anyway anywho uh... and then
[37:50] marmaduke the movie that's terrible it's beethoven basically
[37:54] a different breed of dog
[37:57] but with probably a cgi dog
[37:59] not an email but a comment on the... when are they going to make a fred bassett movie?
[38:02] they're making connoisseur dogs
[38:04] anyway sorry you're saying
[38:05] what about a shoe movie?
[38:07] a shoe? a mallard fillmore movie? croc?
[38:10] anyway uh... also not a letter but
[38:13] from the website a comment on the website
[38:16] uh... from megan last name bell is no one sending us letters? what's going on?
[38:21] we have a website?
[38:24] what's the comment? theflophousepodcast.blogspot.com
[38:27] and if you want to email us it's theflophousepodcast at gmail dot com
[38:32] sounds easy to me
[38:33] but uh... megan last name withheld says
[38:36] oh floppers you've done it again
[38:38] i only wish there were more of you to crush unrealistically over and uh... i
[38:42] want to tell megan believe us if we weren't all uh... involved with women
[38:47] that would be the most realistic crush you could possibly have
[38:51] most attainable crush
[38:53] that you've ever had in your life
[38:54] wait what are you talking about dude?
[38:57] that's true women are falling all over themselves apparently to get at stewart wellington
[39:00] i was going to talk about elliot and the cryptkeeper he's the real lothario of this group
[39:04] just because there are a few girls online who find me attractive
[39:07] one of them who is some sort of latex fetishist
[39:10] yeah you know i understand at one point i thought of uh...
[39:12] i bet elliot would look pretty good in latex what do you think dan? thank you finally
[39:15] at one point i thought of adding a poll to the website
[39:18] and i couldn't think of any good poll questions and one of them was going to be like
[39:22] who's your favorite flopper and then i'm like
[39:23] no one's going to vote for me
[39:26] stewart has the lustful low voice charm and you're the fast talker
[39:31] and i'm just like the guy
[39:33] who keeps trying to get people to vote for him you're the egon you're the leonardo
[39:36] you're very necessary for the group but no one likes you you're egon leonardo if they had a baby
[39:41] egon leonardo he's not even ray stans he's egon spangler
[39:45] stewart is ernie
[39:46] and uh... elliot is burt
[39:49] and i'm burt that's not funny
[39:51] you're one of the pigeons
[39:52] that burt keeps
[39:53] that's not true you're like uh... well like if i'm kermit and he's animal you're scooter
[39:58] or if i'm alvin
[40:00] but i don't know what i'm saying i don't know the sun and you can see it or do
[40:04] you know i really have that one yes there's a lot of that one
[40:09] okay well then if we're
[40:10] if you snap and i'm crackle your pop
[40:13] uh... so
[40:15] so i think i was the best one actually so
[40:17] okay because it's a young from the movies are you going from the cartoon
[40:21] where is that we're currently has a but he didn't he didn't want all the
[40:24] suddenly you have a thing in the cartoon and i'm white haired oh yeah
[40:28] that makes sense yeah
[40:30] uh... i was like for a second i thought they had a thing in the movies but
[40:33] whether it's one of the first one but then the second rick moranis is that
[40:36] you know
[40:38] what's funny
[40:39] anyway if that's what i have actually said uh... incidentally
[40:42] you mentioned the absence of democrat-turned-republican post nine
[40:46] eleven actor ron silverman american carol
[40:49] turns out he was busy dying
[40:50] literal that's tasteless
[40:53] that's what it's true it's true that he patient jack for god's sakes taste the
[40:57] man was the villain in blue steel people andrew was a moment to remember
[41:01] ron silver who was a a good actor
[41:04] not in a lot of good projects all the time he he's an actor who
[41:07] yet he kind of got dragged down by the projects he was in that he was in a
[41:10] reversal of fortune he was very good at it
[41:12] yeah but more more often he was in my time cop which is a better don't want
[41:17] them to it's not as good as our target but it's really a better job of and and
[41:21] will be a still that also there were dozens of artists and it is a lecture
[41:24] you've been
[41:26] she was awesome
[41:27] but uh...
[41:28] you know what your favorite ron silver memory
[41:32] uh... i think it is blue steel okay
[41:36] it's such a strange movie it's sort of a horror film not a movie that gets talked
[41:40] about a lot of it
[41:41] what katherine bigelow uh... certainly a free on part of her uh... over which is
[41:47] not a big over
[41:48] as it is that people thought when you're dark and strange days but then there's
[41:51] like as we were jimmy lee curtis loses her gun and ron silver starts going
[41:55] around town shooting people with it
[41:57] it's interesting because it's basically the plot to stray dog the carousel film
[42:02] except straight out takes place in a country where guns are legal
[42:05] so when the policeman loses his gun he is very much responsible for the deaths
[42:09] that occur
[42:10] resin blue steel i think you get it and i think i'm yeah
[42:13] yeah guns are very easy to get the united states compared to japan my
[42:16] favorite moment in time cap is at the beginning when a bunch of dudes shoot
[42:21] other people whose ease but they're in the civil war time yes
[42:25] they still have gold really still some confederate gold
[42:29] and we just met as many any sense of the same object can't exist in the same
[42:34] space the same time
[42:35] what would that doesn't mean they can shake hands
[42:38] uh... when i shake hands with someone my hand is not in existing in the same
[42:41] space is there is no it makes you more together like a weird blog that was the
[42:45] and righty like me dissolves into himself and i have some stuff and that
[42:48] is
[42:50] touches himself with a little bit
[42:52] although i don't know what you know
[42:55] overhaul
[42:56] where there was a joke somewhere was like a guy in his clone
[43:00] and uh... and they're trying to figure out if it was a maybe it was uh...
[43:03] multiple man comics whether it was gay if he masturbated himself
[43:06] uh... technically the same guy i think one of them would be gay
[43:10] the there's that old highland story where
[43:12] this guy because of time travel this guy is both
[43:15] his own mother his own father
[43:17] himself and bartender that the whole story is told to
[43:20] uh...
[43:22] women
[43:23] women is that uh... incident
[43:25] uh... al creek bridge now that's the most beautiful it that's it completely
[43:29] unrelated there's a lot of equipment
[43:32] come on
[43:33] but most of the most dangerous game now that we make our our should make some
[43:37] recommendation that i can go to your life exactly
[43:41] super stuart
[43:42] what's up on the side recently that you would recommend was all transporter
[43:46] three recently and i was okay
[43:48] uh... muscle watchman and i was okay
[43:50] so vampires kiss and that wasn't okay
[43:54] one vampires kiss diary recommends species to
[43:58] i think you talked about it last week you can talk about it and i don't know
[44:01] what i want to recommend that uh... the conversations into political you brought
[44:05] up species to the uh... man i was unfunny uh...
[44:09] so i can all recommend i i just watched a mad max beyond thunderdome again uh...
[44:14] i recommend giving another shot
[44:15] a lot of people kind of
[44:16] doors as much because there's not a lot of shooting because there's not a lot of
[44:20] guns of that part in the post-apocalyptic future not like people
[44:23] don't give respect
[44:24] okay uh... well i want to turn out to know a lot of the return of one of
[44:27] several reasons i'm talking about people like mad max fans
[44:31] they don't want to have a shooting in the other than that's what is either the
[44:33] mostly car racing movies
[44:35] uh... it's a lot like harpoons but um...
[44:39] yeah i don't know i think i think that they are mad max beyond thunderdome is
[44:42] probably like the tightest like it's probably the best crafted of the three
[44:46] movies there's the a d r work isn't as hilarious as in the first film and uh...
[44:52] yes uh... it's pretty good interesting
[44:54] it's an interesting look
[44:56] uh... wellington perspective
[44:58] i've not watched a lot of movies lately i saw stuck which steward is already
[45:02] recommended and i'll second that recommendation
[45:05] i'm gonna recommend something that no one needs recommended to them
[45:08] i'm not breaking any news by making this recommendation
[45:12] but uh... i watched from russia with love but i watched it on uh... the new
[45:17] blu-ray edition that has come out i'd just seen doctor no and i will before
[45:22] this and i watched from russia with love both on blu-ray
[45:24] and these films look much better than they have any right to i mean they look
[45:29] beautiful in a way that i
[45:30] sort of have a hard time imagining they looked uh... even at the time
[45:34] that's it
[45:35] uh... i haven't seen anything lately that i really love but i'll recommend a
[45:39] movie i saw a while ago
[45:41] uh... since you mentioned james bond another great spy movie is a little movie
[45:45] called the spy who came in from the cold with richard burton
[45:48] which is kind of a spy movie that makes spying look the least enjoyable job in
[45:53] the world
[45:54] so i like mr and ms smith yeah exactly it's just like mr mrs smith
[45:58] about a guy who uh... becomes a double agent and defects to
[46:04] east germany
[46:05] uh... in order to get a job done and the
[46:08] tightrope walk he has to walk between his cover story and his real life to get
[46:13] out of there alive
[46:14] and for a movie world not a lot necessarily
[46:17] happens in the sort of big event sort of sense it has some beautiful uh...
[46:21] cinematography yeah it's a beautifully shot movie it's a movie that's kind of
[46:25] beautifully shot
[46:26] grayness and sadness like he's very a lot like damp streets and stuff but they
[46:30] look really good it's not a happy movie
[46:32] it's not you know get smart
[46:34] it's not mirrors
[46:35] it's not mirrors which is a laugh riot
[46:37] or dr zhivago
[46:39] or dr zhivago which is three hours of wasted time
[46:43] dr zhivago it's two parts and the first part ends on such a perfect note
[46:47] the revolution has happened zhivago is taken up with this girl
[46:51] and suddenly a train is coming up
[46:53] and you see that her boyfriend is on it
[46:55] who's now this high official in the party
[46:58] and it ends and it's like oh my god what's gonna happen when he finds out about the two
[47:01] of them and confronts them
[47:02] and what happens nothing nothing happens they have a conversation and that's it
[47:06] and eventually their relationship falls apart anyway like it's not a
[47:09] but omar sharif
[47:10] yeah great
[47:12] omar sharif what a performance
[47:13] a performance that was not matched until he was the narrator for ten thousand bc
[47:19] yeah
[47:20] uh... what else has he been doing lately he was in lawrence of arabia one time
[47:23] in those videos he used to do for casinos where he taught you how to play back or act
[47:26] yeah absolutely
[47:27] it was in the movie top secret
[47:29] yeah it was
[47:30] so just like omar sharif now huh
[47:34] he gets smashed in the car remember
[47:36] well it's hilarious
[47:38] i didn't tell you guys this is now the sharif cast
[47:41] we're doing a bit of a format change
[47:46] oh he's what like giving his money or something
[47:48] he wants to get his name back out there
[47:51] so uh... are you his agent or something
[47:54] not officially i mean i don't get ten percent he and uh... maximillian shell and
[47:57] maximon sidehow are going to get together
[48:00] to form the great actors who make crappy movies club
[48:03] the last maximon sidehow movie i saw was uh... was a daryl argento movie
[48:07] that movie sucked what movie was that
[48:09] i don't know it's a movie about a kid who plays who kills somebody with a flute
[48:14] fuck it sucked it's called recital i fucking hate daryl argento
[48:18] he looks like a little creep
[48:20] so on the note of stewart calling out daryl argento
[48:24] so daryl you heard him if you're out there
[48:27] uh... you're going to take stew's challenger
[48:30] you know where to find us
[48:32] i think we should build this up that stewart wellington wants to have a fist fight with
[48:34] daryl argento
[48:38] daryl argento if you're out there if you're listening if someone was listening
[48:42] stewart
[48:43] is challenging you to a duel
[48:45] not azia argento's daughter i would be a
[48:50] she's a spy in most movies i think well she's she's had sex a lot in the movies
[48:54] she's got a weird face though
[48:55] all right anyway i think she gets that from her fucking dad
[49:01] to say goodnight it's like her dad was in the mirror world or something right
[49:04] absolutely like the mirror kind of mushed his face so he looks like sloth or
[49:07] something i meant like he was in reverse like at the end of mirrors
[49:11] wait what
[49:13] it ends with him in the mirror world and it's reverse
[49:17] keever sutherland
[49:19] wait when what
[49:21] at the end of mirrors
[49:24] wait come on what are you talking about
[49:26] all right dan maybe we should uh... i'll explain this after
[49:28] i've been dan mccoy
[49:30] i've been stewart wellington i remain elliot kaelin
[49:33] goodnight goodnight goodnight goodnight
[49:36] mirrors
[49:39] m-m-m-mirrors
[49:49] m-m-m-mirrors
[50:00] Mears.
[50:02] Mears.
[50:03] Mears.
[50:04] Mears Cunningham, the choreographer.

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0:00 - 0:38 - Introduction and theme.0:39 - 30:46 - Is Mirrors scarier or less scary than any other horror film starring an inanimate object?30:47 - 33:46 - Final judgments.  33:47 - 43:35 - Letters from listeners and a window into Dan's low self esteem.43:36 - 49:25 - The sad bastards recommend.49:26 - 50:11 - Goodbyes, theme, and outtakes.

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