The Flop House_ Episode #43 - Righteous Kill

Dan McCoy

[0:00] De Niro, Pacino, Gugino, Neutrino, Maraschino, Gran Torino.

[0:09] We discuss Righteous Kill.

[0:30] Hey everyone and welcome to the Flophouse.

[0:40] I'm Dan McCoy.

[0:41] I'm Elliot Kalin.

[0:43] And I'm Megan O'Neill.

[0:44] Yeah.

[0:45] Whoa, hey.

[0:45] Hey.

[0:46] That mellifluous lady voice that you're hearing.

[0:49] That doesn't sound like Stuart R. Wellington.

S3

[0:51] Who let this gal into the room?

Dan McCoy

[0:54] Well, we did, technically.

[0:56] I mean, I did.

[0:56] You did, Dan.

[0:57] It's your house.

[0:57] I unlocked the door and showed you up to my apartment.

[1:01] What a mistake.

[1:01] Whoa, hey, you're a married man.

[1:03] What a mistake that was.

[1:04] Well, my wife's at the bar.

[1:05] Whoa.

[1:06] Oh, even worse.

[1:07] Trouble in paradise, huh?

[1:10] She's visiting with friends, but sure, you can interpret it how you like.

S3

[1:14] He just did air quotation around friends.

Elliott Kalan

[1:17] And visiting.

[1:18] And visiting.

Dan McCoy

[1:19] Stuart isn't here.

Elliott Kalan

[1:20] Stuart's at what he calls dude night.

[1:22] Last week.

S3

[1:23] It's true.

[1:24] I feel like I'm at dude night.

Elliott Kalan

[1:26] Yeah.

[1:26] But I like it.

[1:27] Well, these are different dudes.

Dan McCoy

[1:28] Oh, okay.

[1:28] Than he hangs out with.

[1:30] We aren't playing a fantasy version of football.

[1:34] And by fantasy version of football, I don't mean fantasy football.

[1:37] I mean a game where a bunch of orcs and goblins and elves.

[1:44] Play football.

[1:44] Yeah, play football.

[1:45] Not real orcs, but like minifigs.

[1:49] Because those are expensive.

[1:51] Those are hard to get.

[1:52] And hard to keep.

[1:54] Little pewter or lead figurines that have been painted.

[1:57] Play football with each other.

[2:00] And that's what Stuart does on Wednesdays, ladies and gentlemen.

Elliott Kalan

[2:03] I like to think he also play acts the interviews in the locker room after the game.

[2:09] Sir, why don't you put a towel on?

[2:10] So there are a couple things you won't be hearing about tonight.

[2:14] Among them, the size of Stuart's penis.

[2:17] Does he really?

[2:18] He talks about that?

[2:19] The size of condoms that he buys.

[2:21] Right.

S3

[2:22] Magnums, I'm guessing.

Elliott Kalan

[2:23] Yeah.

[2:23] That's what he says.

Dan McCoy

[2:24] When he recently switched over.

[2:26] We've been hearing a lot about that.

Elliott Kalan

[2:27] He's been telling us a lot about his amazing new switch.

S3

[2:30] Wait.

[2:30] Okay.

[2:31] But we're not supposed to be hearing about these things.

[2:32] No, we're not.

[2:33] No.

[2:33] I will ask him that in confidence.

Dan McCoy

[2:35] I was going to say we weren't going to hear about our leading lady's breasts.

[2:38] But Elliot might still contribute.

Elliott Kalan

[2:40] Well, just because it's a particular leading lady that I have an affection for.

Dan McCoy

[2:44] But before that, let's introduce Megan.

S3

[2:48] Not the leading lady breasts you were just talking about.

Dan McCoy

[2:52] Our leading lady in the studio here.

[2:55] Oh.

[2:55] Which is my apartment.

S3

[2:58] Megan.

[2:59] Very nice.

[2:59] Yes.

[2:59] Who are you?

[3:00] I'm Megan O'Neill.

[3:02] I have an older sister, Jill, that lives in Jersey City.

[3:06] Unnecessary information.

[3:07] Oh, okay.

[3:07] All right.

[3:08] Keep it moving.

[3:09] Let's go.

[3:09] All right.

[3:10] So I was born in Nebraska.

[3:13] Keep it moving.

[3:13] Okay.

[3:14] And I was raised in Kalamazoo.

[3:15] Keep going.

[3:16] I mostly live in Park Slope.

[3:18] All right.

[3:19] There we go.

[3:20] And what do you do?

[3:20] Go, Brooklyn.

[3:22] I work with Dan.

[3:24] Not professionally.

[3:25] Not professionally, but in a creative sense.

[3:27] We collaborate together on the Mr. White Pants Comedy Hour.

[3:31] Which is a very funny show.

[3:32] Which is a very funny sketch show.

[3:34] Check it out.

[3:34] www.mrwhitepantscomedy.com.

[3:38] And I actually suggest that you go to mrwhitepants.com just to see what happens.

Dan McCoy

[3:44] And you're also some sort of buccaneer.

[3:46] Like you sail the seven seas.

[3:48] Yes.

S3

[3:48] I'm a story pirate as well.

[3:50] I work with a group doing writing workshops in elementary schools.

[3:56] And then we get to act out the kids' stories.

[3:59] Very funny stuff.

[4:01] I'm going to be gone for a month touring with the story pirates.

Dan McCoy

[4:04] That's not what I imagine story pirates to be.

[4:06] I imagine...

S3

[4:07] You imagine more like Somali pirates.

Dan McCoy

[4:09] Yeah, I imagine a group of violent men, mainly bearded perhaps, who pull up next to a library.

[4:17] You've almost got it right.

[4:18] Yeah, and they go into the books like Gumby would and they take over the stories.

Elliott Kalan

[4:21] Exactly.

S3

[4:22] Basically, yeah.

[4:24] Basically close.

Elliott Kalan

[4:24] Like they're just hopping on Pop and the story pirates come along and kill Pop and they take the kids and sell them.

S3

[4:29] It's more like we pillage the stories from the children themselves because they have better ideas than we ever thought.

Elliott Kalan

[4:34] And then murder the kids.

S3

[4:36] And then we murder...

[4:37] Oh, no.

Elliott Kalan

[4:37] You make the kids sign a work for hire agreement.

[4:40] They make almost nothing.

[4:42] You own all the rights.

Dan McCoy

[4:43] Anything that they write during the story pirates is the intellectual property of you.

[4:48] That's right.

[4:49] The story pirates.

S3

[4:50] Except the songs that our composer writes, Eli Boland.

[4:54] But actually, Jon Stewart is a big supporter of story pirates.

[4:57] Well, I'll ask him that and see.

[4:59] And Kristen Schaal is a story pirate.

[5:01] I'll ask her that.

Dan McCoy

[5:02] Go ahead.

[5:02] She never mentioned it to me.

[5:04] Okay, fine.

[5:04] Stop dropping names.

[5:06] She was dropping them.

S3

[5:07] I'm not dropping anything.

Dan McCoy

[5:09] I don't know these people.

Elliott Kalan

[5:10] Who did I meet?

[5:12] Yeah.

[5:12] Someone.

[5:12] What's a famous person you know besides me?

[5:14] Ah!

[5:15] Take that.

[5:16] R-O-C-K in the USA.

[5:19] Haven't pulled that one out for a while.

[5:20] Anyway, we watched a movie tonight.

Dan McCoy

[5:23] Oh, did we ever.

[5:24] For a change.

Elliott Kalan

[5:25] I don't know if what we watched tonight could be called a movie.

Dan McCoy

[5:28] Well, hold on.

[5:28] It was more a collage.

[5:29] Let me reset this for people who may be joining us.

[5:34] Here at the Flophouse, we watch a movie.

[5:36] A bad movie.

[5:38] At that.

[5:40] One that we assume should be bad.

[5:41] We watch a movie.

Elliott Kalan

[5:42] You would think a good one for the enjoyment.

[5:45] Nope.

[5:46] Au contraire.

Dan McCoy

[5:47] Suffice to say, it is the opposing type.

[5:50] And let me clear up something about the title, by the way.

[5:52] Some people have pointed out that movies that we've watched in the past haven't been technically

[5:56] flops in the blockbuster sense of the word.

[6:00] Okay.

[6:00] In the box office.

[6:01] In the financial success.

[6:02] Yeah.

[6:03] Yeah.

[6:03] That suggests there's only one measure of success.

[6:06] Right.

[6:06] And that is the almighty dollar.

[6:08] Right.

[6:08] Whereas we encompass.

[6:09] Which is basically true.

[6:10] Critical flops as well.

[6:12] I think we just kind of encompass things that are.

[6:13] So in your face, listeners.

Elliott Kalan

[6:14] Things that are generally bad.

[6:15] Yeah.

[6:16] In your face, loyal listeners.

[6:18] Suck it.

[6:18] All two of you?

Dan McCoy

[6:20] How many loyal listeners do you have?

[6:21] We've got at least three.

[6:22] Oh, okay.

[6:23] All right.

[6:23] I'm imagining listeners across the world in the middle of their jogs pulling their iPod

[6:27] out and throwing it into the pond.

Elliott Kalan

[6:29] Throwing it into lakes and electrocuting fish.

[6:34] Delicious fish.

[6:35] Wait.

S3

[6:36] Did that happen in this film?

[6:37] Because it seems like maybe it could have.

[6:38] I don't know.

Elliott Kalan

[6:39] This movie was about a thousand hours long.

[6:41] This movie was both a critical and commercial flop.

[6:44] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[6:44] In this case, it was not a success.

[6:46] It was called Righteous Kill.

[6:49] Righteous Kill.

[6:50] Dun, dun, dun.

Elliott Kalan

[6:51] And I don't know if you guys remember the posters that were up for this movie all over

[6:55] New York.

[6:55] I don't.

[6:55] But it just said Righteous Killing Me letters and had Robert De Niro and Al Pacino in this

[7:00] like tough guy.

[7:01] Or glowering.

[7:02] Glowering at you, the looker, as if to say, yeah, we made a movie called Righteous Kill.

[7:07] What of it?

S3

[7:08] What of it?

[7:09] You going to come see it?

[7:10] No?

[7:10] Okay.

[7:12] Fine.

Elliott Kalan

[7:12] We're going to go see a movie or else, I don't know, we're old.

[7:15] We can't do that much.

[7:16] Yeah.

[7:16] It's about two elderly cops.

[7:19] Like, I wish they had made a comedy about two guys who used to be Dirty Harry type cops

[7:24] who are now too old for their work and refuse to retire.

[7:28] That would have been very funny and they would have been very good in it.

[7:30] It also would have made more sense.

[7:31] Put Morgan Freeman in it, I guess.

[7:32] And if it was called like, yeah.

[7:35] No, Morgan Freeman's in too much stuff.

[7:36] All right.

[7:37] He needs to dial back, become exclusive again.

S3

[7:39] Put Bill Murray in it.

Elliott Kalan

[7:40] Yeah, Bill Murray could have been like the police commissioner.

[7:43] Yep.

[7:43] Yeah, it's a small character part.

S3

[7:45] But that's me.

[7:46] I think every movie needs more Bill Murray.

Elliott Kalan

[7:48] Mm-hmm.

[7:50] I have often thought that while watching any movie.

[7:53] Pornography.

[7:55] Schindler's List, anything.

S3

[7:56] Anything on YouTube.

Dan McCoy

[7:58] I mean, like, I think that if Bill Murray was in pornography.

[8:01] Warner Herzog films.

[8:02] Like, yes, qualitatively it would be better if Bill Murray was just like standing off to

[8:06] the sides cracking jokes about the sexual acts.

[8:09] Right.

[8:09] Drinking white Russian.

[8:10] There's so many Stan Braggage experimental films.

[8:13] It would be what you would call a boner buster to have Bill Murray there.

Elliott Kalan

[8:19] Yeah.

[8:19] And who knows better about busting things than Bill Murray?

Dan McCoy

[8:22] It's true.

[8:23] He ain't afraid of no boner.

Elliott Kalan

[8:25] That's the old commercials that go, if you've got an erection for more than four hours,

[8:31] who are you going to call?

[8:32] It's boner busters.

[8:33] Boner busters.

[8:33] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[8:35] Because it could be painful otherwise.

[8:36] The priapism experts.

[8:38] They show up with their...

S3

[8:40] Guys, I thought we weren't going to talk about cocks tonight.

[8:42] We didn't say that.

[8:44] We said stewards.

[8:44] Oh, okay.

[8:46] Specifically.

[8:46] Okay.

Dan McCoy

[8:46] Other people's painful four-hour erections.

[8:49] We'll talk about it.

[8:51] Just not stewards.

[8:52] But anyway...

[8:53] We're so enthusiastic to talk about Righteous Kill, as you can...

[8:55] Well, yeah, you can see.

Elliott Kalan

[8:57] Righteous Kill was not a hilarious comedy about two elderly policemen.

S3

[9:00] I'm not even sure exactly what it was about.

Elliott Kalan

[9:02] It was a thriller about two elderly policemen.

S3

[9:05] Elliot, why don't you...

[9:06] Which seems like an oxymoron, and it is.

[9:08] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[9:09] You're known for being able to follow even the most unfollowable of films.

Elliott Kalan

[9:14] Yeah, and then apparently describe them in over much detail, as was said in the last episode.

[9:19] I think Stuart said that.

[9:20] When Brock described Paul Bart as a movie about a man who gets the chance to be a policeman

[9:24] and turns it down.

[9:26] And that was the entire plot.

[9:28] Yeah.

[9:28] Which tries to...

[9:29] I can't...

[9:29] Recently, I referred to King Kong as a movie about how hard it is to put on a show on Broadway.

[9:34] That seems to be as apt a description.

[9:38] I think there's a certain flavor to the plot of a film, but apparently I take too long in saying it.

[9:43] No, no, no.

Dan McCoy

[9:43] I'm encouraging you to summarize this.

[9:46] I mean, briefly, yes.

[9:47] Briefly.

[9:48] Okay.

Elliott Kalan

[9:48] Al Pacino and Robert De Niro have been partners for about 100 years as policemen.

[9:53] One of them has dentures.

[9:54] We'll let you guess.

[9:55] We'll let you guess which one.

[9:57] Robert De Niro is named Turk.

[9:58] Al Pacino is named Rooster.

[10:00] Those are nicknames.

[10:00] Robert De Niro is also in a very kind of brutal sex relationship with Carla Gugino,

[10:07] who is a forensics person with the police.

[10:10] And there are also two other detectives, John Leguizamo and Donnie Wahlberg.

[10:15] Because they're...

Dan McCoy

[10:15] You may remember from The Sixth Sense.

S3

[10:18] The Sixth Sense, right.

[10:19] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[10:19] As well as New Kids on the Block.

[10:21] Right.

S3

[10:21] He was very thin in The Sixth Sense.

Elliott Kalan

[10:24] And Brian Dennehy is the police chief, and that's the entirety of the police of New York City,

[10:28] is this group.

[10:29] That's it.

[10:30] There's someone who's killing criminals who beat the charges and didn't go to jail

[10:34] and leaving cryptic poems describing the people's crimes on the body.

[10:39] It opens with Robert De Niro confessing to these crimes and continues to confess throughout the film.

[10:45] In fuzzy black and white video footage.

[10:47] But things may not be as they seem.

[10:50] Robert De Niro is like the loose cannon cop who beats people up,

[10:53] and Al Pacino is like the loose cannon cop who makes...

[10:56] Who plays chess.

[10:56] Who plays chess and makes wisecracks.

[10:58] They're both bad at being cops.

[11:00] They're both too old.

[11:01] Should I give away the ending?

[11:02] Should I say what happened?

[11:03] Oh, please.

[11:03] Go.

Dan McCoy

[11:04] No, keep going.

[11:05] Yeah, I think you should.

Elliott Kalan

[11:05] Well, you think...

[11:06] There are a couple red herrings.

[11:07] They go through a lot of rigmarole to try and find the killer.

[11:10] And at the end...

[11:10] And you think it's...

Dan McCoy

[11:11] Well, no, you have to clarify.

[11:13] At a certain point, they think, I know who's doing this.

[11:17] Right.

[11:17] It's got to be a cop.

[11:18] Yeah, it's got to be a cop.

[11:19] A maniac cop, if you will.

Elliott Kalan

[11:21] They don't say maniac cop, but they should have.

[11:22] And John Lake was almost as...

[11:23] I think it was Robert De Niro who did it.

[11:25] Right.

[11:25] And it would have been a better movie if they referred to each other by their real name.

[11:28] Right.

[11:29] It would have made more sense.

[11:30] I bet it was actor Robert De Niro who did it.

[11:31] I think Robert De Niro did it.

[11:33] And they set up a sting operation and they catch Robert De Niro, but it turns out he's

[11:37] not the guy who did it.

S3

[11:38] But what was that scene before that when they were waiting in the car and that weird guy

[11:42] came out of nowhere?

Elliott Kalan

[11:43] That was Robert De Niro.

[11:44] It seemed like he was trying to throw them off the track.

[11:46] Oh, okay.

[11:47] So he said...

[11:47] Yeah, please explain this to me.

[11:49] I just saw this movie, but...

[11:50] He's like, it's not a cop.

[11:51] It's not a cop.

[11:52] And they're like, no, it's a cop.

[11:54] It's a cop.

[11:55] He's like, it's not a cop.

[11:57] That seems to be the whole script of the movie.

[11:59] Literally.

[12:00] A lot of the movie is people shouting the same phrases over and over at each other.

[12:05] Yeah.

[12:05] At the simultaneously.

[12:06] With overlapping Altman-esque dialogue.

Dan McCoy

[12:09] Yeah.

[12:10] And ketchup in the background.

Elliott Kalan

[12:11] And there's a lot of bottles of ketchup sitting on tables.

[12:14] But De Niro says to them, you think it's a cop?

[12:18] Well, here's a cop who got fired and he thinks he got a bum deal.

[12:22] And he was involved in all these cases where he was around at the time.

[12:25] Maybe he did it.

[12:26] So they go to find that guy and he says, I've got an alibi.

[12:30] Oh, yeah.

[12:30] I was in Brazil.

[12:31] And he disappears from the film.

[12:32] That's what it was.

[12:32] Wait.

[12:33] He was in Brazil?

[12:34] Not the movie.

[12:34] Well, no.

[12:35] Not the movie.

S3

[12:38] I met up with Terry Gilliam.

[12:40] And I'll get it off.

Elliott Kalan

[12:42] But at the end, it turns.

[12:43] So they think Robert De Niro did it.

[12:45] Robert De Niro seems pretty suspicious.

[12:47] He's in a relationship with Carl Gugino where they rape each other.

[12:51] Well, no, no, no.

[12:52] He rapes.

[12:53] He's not that equitable.

[12:54] He rapes.

[12:54] It's really horrible.

[12:55] There's one who's dominant and one who's submissive.

Dan McCoy

[12:57] It's really horrible.

[12:58] And Robert De Niro is not the submissive in that relationship.

[13:01] No.

Dan McCoy

[13:01] But I think he is the submissive in that relationship.

[13:03] Well, in the end, the thing is, he plays the-

[13:04] Well, isn't the Dom really not the one in control of the submissive?

[13:07] Well, that's the thing.

[13:08] Oh.

Elliott Kalan

[13:09] He plays the dominant role in the game.

[13:11] Right.

[13:11] But it's very obvious that he does what Carl Gugino wants him to do.

[13:15] And that he doesn't like this necessarily.

[13:17] This is what she wants to do.

[13:18] But in the end, it turns out Al Pacino did it the whole time.

[13:20] Oh, no.

[13:21] Oh, no.

[13:22] It was the other character who did it.

Dan McCoy

[13:24] There were two main characters.

[13:26] And the one that you thought did it didn't do it.

[13:29] Yeah.

[13:29] And thus, it was the other main character who did it.

Elliott Kalan

[13:31] And Al Pacino makes Robert De Niro read from his crazy person confession notebook.

[13:35] And that's why-

[13:36] That his therapist gave him.

[13:37] That his therapist gave him.

[13:38] The police therapist.

[13:38] Then Robert De Niro shoots Al Pacino reluctantly.

[13:42] And the movie is over.

[13:44] The end.

[13:45] The end.

[13:45] It's a really-

[13:46] And Robert De Niro, even though he was a brutal, aggressive cop, redeems himself by coaching

[13:52] a girl's softball team at the end.

Dan McCoy

[13:53] I don't understand.

[13:55] Now that we've summarized, we can dig into the meat of this.

[13:58] And I-

[13:59] Oh, the meat of this, yeah.

[13:59] The meat is a little girl's softball team.

[14:01] I really don't understand.

Elliott Kalan

[14:02] Let's just say, this was a terrible movie.

[14:04] Everything about it is bad.

[14:06] Two of the most-

[14:07] Two of the legendary actors of the second half of the 20th century.

[14:10] Right.

[14:10] And one of stage.

[14:11] And they both are shit in it.

[14:12] And they're really bad.

[14:13] And they have no chemistry.

[14:14] And they're just old, bad, not good, bad things.

Dan McCoy

[14:18] Well, let's not jump ahead of ourselves.

[14:19] Sorry.

[14:20] Let's not-

[14:21] Let's not, you know.

Elliott Kalan

[14:22] And Carla Gugino, of course, looks beautiful.

[14:24] Yeah.

[14:24] She lights up the screen.

[14:25] She does light up the screen.

[14:26] Whenever she's on.

[14:27] I mean, she's a beautiful woman.

[14:28] She's got an old world, classic style of looks.

[14:31] You don't find that so many of these slutty stars these days.

[14:34] Elliot means that he enjoys her curbs.

Dan McCoy

[14:36] That's what Elliot is saying.

Elliott Kalan

[14:37] Well, that's part of it.

[14:37] But also, just like, the way her face looks is not-

[14:40] Yeah.

[14:40] It looks like-

[14:41] You could see pictures of her and think they were from the 40s.

[14:43] She's very pretty.

[14:44] Freddie.

[14:44] Just the way her face is shaped.

Dan McCoy

[14:45] And a talented actress.

[14:48] But not necessarily in this movie.

[14:50] No.

Elliott Kalan

[14:51] But not at her own fault.

[14:53] She's still better than De Niro and Pacino, but everyone in it is bad.

S3

[14:56] That's true.

[14:56] Okay.

[14:57] Yeah.

[14:57] I would agree with that.

Elliott Kalan

[14:58] But to go back to the girls' softball.

[15:00] Oh, but to go-

[15:01] Why is that in this movie?

[15:02] Because he's-

[15:03] That's a question that I had from the start.

[15:03] He was coaching the police softball, the NYPD softball team, for his precinct at least.

[15:08] Right.

[15:08] And I think this was a sign that he's given up his aggressive ways.

[15:11] We see him getting into a fight with the umpire.

[15:14] This is-

[15:15] He's given it up.

[15:15] Now he's giving back to the children.

[15:17] It's the future next generation.

[15:19] Maybe he and Carl Gugino are going to have some kids who go to college when he's dead because

[15:23] he'll be in his 90s.

[15:24] Right.

[15:24] You know.

[15:25] That's a dream.

[15:26] It's the American dream.

[15:28] I think it's-

[15:28] He's let go of the past and now he's free to be around children.

[15:31] Yeah.

[15:31] Okay.

S3

[15:33] No, he's free to be around children.

[15:34] Yeah.

[15:35] As we all hope to be one day, I guess.

Dan McCoy

[15:37] He's free to be you and me.

[15:38] Let's get back to the fact that Carla Gugino not only enjoys rough sex, but she enjoys

[15:43] rough sex with a man approximately twice her age.

[15:46] Yeah.

S3

[15:46] Definitely old enough to be her father.

Dan McCoy

[15:47] I don't know about-

[15:48] No one.

[15:48] If not father and a half.

[15:49] All right.

Elliott Kalan

[15:50] Well, I'm saying-

[15:51] Old enough to be her father, yes.

[15:52] How old is he?

[15:52] Yeah.

[15:53] Like, Carla Gugino is somewhere in-

[15:55] She's around 37 years old.

[15:57] Yeah.

[15:57] She's in-

[15:57] Is she?

[15:58] I believe so.

[15:59] She looks great.

[15:59] Yeah.

[16:00] Robert De Niro is not 74 years old.

Dan McCoy

[16:02] But he's like 65.

[16:04] Yeah.

S3

[16:04] He's in his 60s, certainly.

[16:05] I wonder if Robert De Niro is younger than my father.

[16:07] So, it's-

[16:09] My dad's old.

Dan McCoy

[16:10] I don't have to ask Robert De Niro.

[16:10] Sorry, dad.

Dan McCoy

[16:10] Like, on the scale of-

[16:13] Of old?

[16:13] Of Hollywood relationships.

Elliott Kalan

[16:15] It's not as bad as, like, Larry King and his wife.

[16:18] I wouldn't know about that.

[16:19] There's probably a bigger age difference between Michael Douglas and Catherine Zina Jones than

[16:23] between these two.

[16:24] They're 30 years apart.

S3

[16:25] But the difference is we don't have to see it on film.

Elliott Kalan

[16:28] We will, though.

[16:29] But we-

Dan McCoy

[16:29] We don't have to see them enacting their rape fantasies on film.

[16:33] Yeah.

[16:33] The rape fantasy aspect of it is very distasteful.

[16:36] It's very strange.

[16:37] Well, look.

[16:37] You know, no, no.

[16:38] Whatever gets you off behind closed doors.

[16:41] I just don't want to see-

[16:42] I mean, muzzle top.

[16:43] Robert De Niro pertaining to rape Carly Gugino on film.

[16:48] That is not something that I want projected onto my eyeballs and then, therefore, into my brain.

[16:53] Yeah.

[16:54] Yeah, we have to say that it was-

Elliott Kalan

[16:56] It's not like there's a graphic scene.

[16:58] No.

[16:58] It's just the implication of it is horrifying.

S3

[17:00] Of that relationship.

[17:02] And, you know, I'm going to say this.

[17:03] I didn't really like Meet the Parents at all.

[17:06] But then after seeing-

[17:07] I am with you.

[17:07] But after seeing this movie, I find Robert De Niro's character in that a lot more easy to watch.

Elliott Kalan

[17:13] Well, can I say something about Meet the Parents?

[17:14] Oh, please do.

[17:14] Yes, and then let's talk about something about Righteous Kill that's not rape or love.

[17:17] Or about 50 Cent.

[17:19] Yeah, 50 Cent is in this movie, too.

[17:21] As a drug dealer club owner named Spider.

[17:23] Spider.

[17:23] Anyway.

[17:24] Meet the Parents, like, falls into this weird-

[17:25] Because everyone's named after an animal in this movie.

Dan McCoy

[17:29] I didn't realize that.

[17:31] See, and the birds, the two bird police officers-

[17:34] The birds, that's right.

[17:34] Turk and Rooster.

[17:34] Eat the arachnid spider.

[17:38] It's a stretch.

[17:39] All right.

[17:39] But it could work.

[17:40] They should have called him cricket.

[17:41] It's a stretch in the way that a bad screenwriter might have actually thought of that.

[17:44] Yeah, there you go.

[17:44] That makes sense.

[17:45] And deliberately done it.

[17:46] But Meet the Parents, it falls in that category of comedy where I actually enjoy the comedy of awkwardness.

[17:52] You know, like the original Office or its ilk.

[17:56] But what I don't enjoy is a comedy that's entirely based around a good-hearted person having their life systematically ruined in some way.

[18:06] And Meet the Parents just seem to be like, okay, well, we're introduced to sweet Ben Stiller who wants to marry this lady.

[18:13] This lady.

[18:13] His lady friend.

[18:14] We will see him embarrassed-

[18:17] Over and over again.

[18:18] Yeah.

[18:18] For the next two hours.

[18:19] That's why I never liked the vacation movies.

Elliott Kalan

[18:21] Yeah?

[18:22] Oh, really?

[18:22] It's like, you know-

S3

[18:23] The Christmas vacation one?

[18:25] Christmas vacation is the worst one.

[18:26] Oh, no.

Dan McCoy

[18:27] I actually like that film.

[18:27] But it's the same thing where it's like-

[18:29] The worst one in a series that includes Vegas Vacation.

[18:31] Right.

[18:31] Oh, I forgot about Vegas Vacation.

Elliott Kalan

[18:32] Christmas Vacation is the second worst one.

[18:34] Okay.

[18:35] Where Chevy Chase is not a bad guy.

[18:37] Like, he's not a great guy.

[18:38] It's just, it's like, oh, I can't wait to take my family on vacation.

[18:41] And apparently that is the biggest crime you can commit in the universe.

S3

[18:44] Well, when you're trying to go to Wally World.

[18:46] Yes.

Dan McCoy

[18:47] By the way, Mr. John Hughes.

S3

[18:49] Oh, he passed away, didn't he?

[18:51] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[18:51] You really don't want to talk about Righteous Kid.

[18:53] I just want to say, you know, the man wrote Vacation.

[18:56] And he also wrote the National Lampoon story that Vacation was based on.

[19:00] Oh, I didn't realize that.

[19:01] He wrote a lot of stuff.

[19:02] You should look it up on the internet because it's interesting to see.

[19:05] I mean, like, he obviously, he wrote the story and he wrote the screenplay.

[19:08] So it's not that strange that they're in line.

[19:10] But you rarely see, like, a five-page story that is so closely aligned to the movie that

[19:16] then was later made of it.

[19:18] So, in memoriam, John Hughes.

[19:21] Oh, what a fitting memorial.

[19:22] Why don't you go online?

[19:23] This brief mention.

[19:24] I'm sure that's all he ever wanted.

Elliott Kalan

[19:26] Yeah.

[19:27] I will say about that.

[19:28] Someone said to me today that they don't like Ferris Bueller's Day Off because his parents

[19:32] are so nice to him.

[19:33] There's no reason for him to mess with them.

[19:35] He's not really messing with them.

[19:37] Yeah.

[19:37] He's not messing with them.

[19:38] And also, like, they're not very good parents.

[19:41] Like, even if they're nice, they have no idea what's going on with him.

[19:44] Yeah.

[19:44] And they're not great to the sister.

[19:46] Yeah, they're not good.

[19:46] They're very bad to the sister.

[19:48] Like...

[19:48] Well, the sister's Jennifer Grey.

S3

[19:50] Oh, so that's just supposed to excuse me.

[19:52] I know.

[19:52] Wow.

[19:53] Interesting.

[19:53] And she makes that with Charlie Sheen.

[19:55] So, she gets what's coming to it.

[19:56] We just recapped Ferris Bueller's Day Off.

Elliott Kalan

[19:58] Yeah, we just recapped all the important points of Ferris Bueller's Day Off.

[20:02] Anyway.

[20:03] See, that's what happens when you don't go through a plot in detail.

[20:06] People think the movie is about Jennifer Grey and Charlie Sheen's relationship.

[20:10] Yep.

[20:11] So, Righteous Kill is a bad movie.

[20:13] So...

[20:13] It's very poorly shot.

[20:14] It's very poorly edited.

[20:15] It's very poorly written.

[20:16] Oh, God, is it ugly.

S3

[20:17] It's completely confusing, too.

Elliott Kalan

[20:19] And it doesn't...

[20:19] And it's...

[20:20] Well, if you're talking through it, it makes it more confusing.

[20:21] We've learned that on the Flap House.

[20:23] But it is confusing.

[20:24] Like, the characters do things illogically for...

[20:27] You know, and have no reason for it.

[20:29] Things happen.

[20:30] And you don't know why.

[20:31] And it's because the movie is trying to create a sense of suspense in you.

[20:34] Right.

[20:34] But it just comes off as like, why did...

[20:36] Wait, why did we see that?

Dan McCoy

[20:37] Yeah.

[20:38] Why did that happen?

[20:39] Well, De Niro gets super agitated by the idea that it might be a cop who's behind all these killings.

[20:45] And this is obviously a red herring to make us think, okay, De Niro did it.

[20:49] That along with the fact that we first see him confessing.

[20:52] Right.

[20:53] That was the larger red herring.

[20:54] But it's never really explained why he's so agitated other than I guess you're supposed to assume he just has pride in being a police officer.

Elliott Kalan

[21:01] Maybe or maybe he has an idea that Rooster did it.

Dan McCoy

[21:05] But you can't kill the Rooster.

Elliott Kalan

[21:07] Alp.

[21:08] Alp.

[21:09] Al Pacino's character has one of the great quirks of movies, which is that he's full of stupid trivia.

[21:16] And as someone who's full of stupid trivia, I can understand.

[21:19] But it's like, there's a scene where he's talking to Brian Dennehy.

[21:21] And Brian Dennehy's like, it's going to take two light years to do this.

[21:24] And he goes, actually, Chief, light years are a measure of distance, not of time.

[21:29] It's like, great.

[21:30] Who cares?

[21:31] Why is...

Dan McCoy

[21:32] The thing about the light years, though, I feel like that, again, is like the screenwriter at home working through the Righteous Kill screenplay.

[21:39] Like working on it, working on it.

[21:40] And then he takes a break to watch Star Wars, and he's annoyed all over again at the use of parsecs as a unit of time.

[21:49] He's like, I'm going to write something in.

[21:51] That isn't that.

[21:52] But it's very close.

[21:54] But it's similar to that.

[21:55] And then that'll show George Lucas.

[21:57] Yeah.

[21:57] And the world.

[21:59] Retroactively.

Elliott Kalan

[22:00] Retroactively.

[22:01] But it's such a poorly...

[22:03] Like, the editing in the movie is bad.

[22:05] And it's incoherent at times, but also, like, it's one of those movies that feels, it's like, we better make this look dynamic.

[22:11] So we'll throw all sorts of crazy shit around, and the camera will whoosh for no reason.

Dan McCoy

[22:16] Except for it's always whooshing to something really ugly.

[22:19] Yes.

[22:19] I've never seen so much linoleum in a movie.

[22:22] So much, like, just ugly tiling.

[22:24] Parking lines.

[22:24] It reminds me of when I went to...

[22:25] Cinder blocks.

Elliott Kalan

[22:26] When 12 Monkeys came out, I remember seeing that and thinking at the time, like, the world this movie is in is really ugly.

[22:34] But it was ugly in a way, like, it's supposed to be because it's, you know, society is crumbling to a certain extent.

[22:40] So even the scenes set in the present don't look very, you know, the settings don't look very good.

[22:44] But the movie is still shot well.

[22:46] So, like, you know that the world looks ugly, but the movie is not ugly.

[22:50] Right.

[22:51] Whereas this, it's like, everything looks ugly and it's shot ugly.

S3

[22:54] Yeah, everything has a fluorescent light.

Elliott Kalan

[22:56] Yeah, or the linoleum, like you were saying, or just, like, crappy.

[23:00] This film is just trying to tell us.

[23:02] Or in the climax of the film, Robert De Niro is wearing baggy sweatpants and a baggy hooded sweatshirt, all gray, with sweat stains on it.

Dan McCoy

[23:11] He looks like a grandmother out for a power walk.

[23:14] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[23:16] That's probably what that amounted to.

[23:18] He should be walking around a mall at 6.30 a.m.

Dan McCoy

[23:20] Well, the look of this movie is telling us, Elliot, that the world is a cesspool.

[23:24] I guess so.

[23:26] It's an insight fitting to, like, a seventh grader, to say.

[23:30] It is a movie that hates people.

[23:32] Seventh grader.

Elliott Kalan

[23:33] There's all these parts where De Niro is like, you're hearing voiceover of him talking about how he killed people.

[23:38] Yeah.

[23:38] And it's him reading Al Pacino's notes, but you don't know that.

[23:40] It just sounds like his inner monologue.

[23:42] And he's talking about how, like, he sees crime everywhere.

[23:44] And the whole time, you're just like, oh, Taxi Driver was such a good movie.

[23:49] This is so not as good as that.

[23:50] Why am I watching this?

[23:52] I could be watching that movie.

S3

[23:53] Or meet the parents.

Elliott Kalan

[23:55] Yeah.

[23:56] I could be watching The Swap, one of his other early bad films.

S3

[24:00] I've never seen The Swap.

Elliott Kalan

[24:01] Well, don't.

[24:01] I'm not right.

[24:02] Oh, okay.

[24:02] All right.

Dan McCoy

[24:03] So, Megan, I bet that...

[24:05] I could be watching Harry Shelley's Frankenstein.

[24:07] Oh.

[24:07] I bet that Al Pacino had a really good reason for killing all those people.

[24:11] I mean, like, he was a cop.

[24:12] And then to, like, turn around and kill everybody.

[24:14] I bet he must have had a really good reason.

[24:16] So, what was that?

S3

[24:19] Oh.

[24:21] Elliot, what was it?

Elliott Kalan

[24:23] Do you remember?

[24:23] It seems to be that he was crazy.

S3

[24:25] Oh, that's it.

[24:26] He was crazy.

Elliott Kalan

[24:27] Well, technically, he says early in the film, he and Robert De Niro planted a gun on a suspect.

[24:32] Yes.

[24:32] Who was going to get off because he had a fake alibi, but they knew he did it.

[24:36] Right.

[24:36] And he says at the end to Robert De Niro, you were my idol.

[24:40] You were the best cop I'd ever seen.

[24:42] Oh, that's right.

[24:42] When you planted that gun...

[24:43] This guy's good.

[24:44] Yeah.

[24:44] I'll see him.

[24:45] I don't have to pay that close attention to it.

[24:47] When you planted that gun, I lost faith.

[24:49] Yep.

[24:50] That was it.

[24:50] You showed me that cops can be bad, too.

[24:52] So, I decided to kill people, and it turned out I enjoyed doing it.

[24:55] So, he is crazy.

[24:56] It's just dumb.

[24:57] So, that's why, Dan.

[24:58] That's why he did it.

[24:59] That's why he started.

S3

[25:00] Okay.

[25:01] The fall from grace.

[25:02] Classic.

[25:03] Classic.

Dan McCoy

[25:03] The fact that his partner set someone up meant that then thereafter, he had to shoot a bunch

[25:10] of people.

[25:11] Right.

[25:11] I guess that there was no law.

[25:13] Right.

[25:13] Or that they were outside of the law.

[25:14] It's vigilante justice.

[25:15] So, he stared into the abyss.

[25:17] Right.

[25:17] And realized...

[25:18] Not only did the abyss stare back.

Elliott Kalan

[25:19] And he shot the wrong Ruski.

[25:21] Mm-hmm.

[25:22] He did shoot the wrong Ruski.

[25:24] And they...

[25:24] He shoots...

[25:25] One of these guys is a Russian criminal, and he shoots him six times.

[25:29] And fails to kill him.

[25:30] He just puts him in the hospital, where there's, like, an Indian doctor who's very impressed

[25:35] at how many bullets he took out of this guy.

[25:37] But then...

[25:38] Who's the guy from...

S3

[25:38] Who's the Indian guy from Office Space.

Elliott Kalan

[25:40] It wasn't?

[25:41] Yeah.

[25:41] Oh, I didn't realize that.

[25:42] Samir.

S3

[25:43] Yeah.

[25:43] He's great.

[25:44] I think he's great in Office.

[25:45] I mean, he's very good in this film, too.

Elliott Kalan

[25:46] Or is he Arab?

[25:48] Oh.

[25:49] Oh.

[25:50] Good question.

[25:52] You've exposed our racism.

[25:54] I think I've exposed our oblivious whiteness.

[25:56] Basically.

[25:57] But, uh...

[25:57] Definitely.

[25:58] You were gonna talk...

[25:59] Wait, wait, wait.

[25:59] I just realized I'm the only non-Irishman at this table.

[26:02] Wait, are you guys white?

S3

[26:03] Oh.

[26:04] Oh.

[26:04] You're not Irish?

Dan McCoy

[26:05] The Irish were...

[26:05] Get out.

[26:07] The Irish were, you know, spat upon.

[26:11] And, um...

[26:11] Boo hoo.

[26:12] Yeah.

[26:12] I'm the river.

[26:13] We were...

Elliott Kalan

[26:15] Jewish people have had it pretty easy.

[26:17] Yeah.

S3

[26:17] We were the minority before we knew the word for it.

Elliott Kalan

[26:22] Yeah.

[26:23] Anyway.

[26:23] Not today.

[26:24] Not today.

[26:24] Not today where we have every advantage.

S3

[26:27] In America, we have...

[26:28] We knew how to do one thing well and that's procreate.

Elliott Kalan

[26:30] In America, we have so much racial strife.

[26:32] I didn't mean to reopen these wounds, but...

[26:34] You did.

[26:35] What you meant to talk about was, uh...

[26:36] The guy's method of trying to get someone out of my coma.

[26:39] Is, uh...

[26:39] Oh, yeah.

[26:40] This Russian guy is...

[26:41] Oh, yeah.

[26:41] It seems to be in a coma and one of the cops just goes up to him and goes, hey.

[26:45] Hey.

[26:46] Hey.

[26:47] It's like...

[26:47] Yeah.

[26:47] Oh.

[26:48] Literally.

[26:48] Just like putting his fingers up in front of him and snapping.

[26:51] Hey.

[26:52] Hey.

[26:53] And I wish that one of the doctors would be like, oh, we haven't tried that, thanks.

[26:57] Thanks for your miracle cure.

[26:59] The sarcastic doctor.

[27:01] Oh, the snapping fingers.

[27:04] Oh, great.

[27:05] We were busy using a defibrillator.

Dan McCoy

[27:07] That's first year medical school.

[27:09] I can't believe I forgot about it.

[27:11] Yeah, the snapping fingers.

S3

[27:12] Where are my smelling salts?

[27:13] Doesn't matter, I've got these fingers with me all the time.

Elliott Kalan

[27:16] When I was applying the adrenaline to keep his heart beating, I forgot to say, hey, hey, hey.

[27:22] Oh, that was a good one.

Dan McCoy

[27:24] Now there's beer in my nose now.

[27:25] Oh, no.

[27:26] Irish beer.

[27:27] Don't worry about it.

[27:27] There's beer in my nose now.

[27:28] It'll just be absorbed into my bloodstream all the fast.

S3

[27:32] Oh, and now I'm totally, now that you say that in my nose, I'm thinking about the girl.

[27:37] The girl who was using cocaine.

[27:40] With the primo cocaine that Spider gave her.

[27:44] That's the only word she used to describe it.

[27:46] Primo.

[27:47] Primo.

[27:47] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[27:48] Poor girl.

[27:48] She's a high-class lawyer who is also a coke addict.

[27:51] When the whole house of cards started tumbling down was this woman offered.

Elliott Kalan

[27:57] It feels like, literally, it feels like we watched 13 episodes of a TV show.

[28:02] Yeah.

[28:02] An hour-long drama.

[28:03] And I'm like, oh, yeah, that happened at the beginning of season one of Righteous Kill.

[28:08] The cutting up the cocaine in the men's bathroom.

[28:10] This is a movie that's, what, an hour and 45 minutes long, and it feels like it's...

[28:14] It's epic.

[28:15] I think, like, 10,000 BC or 7 Pounds were the only movies that felt like they took more time than this.

Dan McCoy

[28:21] But this woman offers De Niro some cocaine.

Elliott Kalan

[28:26] They're in the bathroom.

[28:27] He's in the bathroom of a hip-hop club.

S3

[28:28] Yeah.

[28:29] Right.

[28:29] In Harlem.

[28:30] The 404 club that used to be a bank.

Dan McCoy

[28:31] And it's run by Spider.

[28:33] Who's 50 cent.

[28:34] And now that that happened, De Niro can use her as an informant.

[28:40] To wire her up.

[28:41] Yeah.

[28:41] Put her in with Spider.

[28:43] And I found this very interesting because apparently, in the world of Righteous Kill, very wealthy, high-powered corporate lawyers get their drugs directly from the drug king pen.

[28:56] In person.

[28:57] Yeah.

[28:57] They go...

[28:58] Four ounces.

[28:58] They're buddies.

[28:59] They're like, hey, Spider, let me in.

[29:01] They're like, oh, okay, I'll let you into my...

[29:03] My sanctum sanctorum.

[29:04] Yeah.

[29:05] Where, by the way, the police are just next door.

[29:08] The police seem to have rented out apartment space above his place in the building.

Elliott Kalan

[29:13] It's like he had a loft for rent and the police rented it out and he doesn't understand how they keep busting him.

Dan McCoy

[29:20] They just have cups up to the wall with their ear on one side.

S3

[29:24] Even closer than The Lives of Others.

[29:26] Fancy.

[29:27] The Lives of Others.

[29:28] Great movie.

[29:29] It's no Righteous Kill.

Elliott Kalan

[29:29] It's no Righteous Kill.

[29:30] No, Righteous Kill is in a class of its own.

[29:32] Yeah, they send her to wear a wire to catch spiders selling her drugs and things don't go so well.

S3

[29:38] They don't go as planned.

Elliott Kalan

[29:39] Yeah.

[29:40] That's for sure.

[29:40] She gets shot in the shoulder and she takes it in stride.

[29:43] She's a corporate lawyer.

[29:44] Come on.

S3

[29:44] She just bleeds from the mouth a little bit.

Elliott Kalan

[29:45] She had so much primo stuff in her system that she didn't even feel it.

Dan McCoy

[29:50] The thing was like, she didn't die.

Elliott Kalan

[29:53] No, she was fine.

[29:54] She went to the hospital.

[29:54] So she...

[29:55] There was a shot of her reading a book kind of irritatingly like,

[29:58] Ugh!

[29:58] I gotta read a book now that I'm in the hospital.

Dan McCoy

[30:00] And I can only turn it with my left hand.

[30:02] So she didn't even serve like the plot motivation of, you know, giving De Niro a reason to like,

[30:09] No.

[30:09] Be enraged about it.

[30:10] No.

[30:10] He's a mad dog.

Elliott Kalan

[30:10] He's like a pit bull on crack.

[30:12] And then she just sort of disappears.

[30:13] As they said.

[30:14] Yeah, she disappears because she's not necessary anymore.

[30:17] Yeah.

[30:17] Well, to be fair, what were they going to keep her around in the plot for?

[30:20] Like, she wants revenge on Spider?

[30:22] That's also a scene where...

Dan McCoy

[30:23] Maybe she could be drawn into Carla Gugino's sex games.

[30:27] Or maybe I'm just influenced by the fact that because of a Time Warner cable screw-up,

[30:32] I now have Cinemax in my house.

[30:36] Free Cinemax.

[30:36] For a month.

[30:37] So everything is a potential setup for some sort of devious sex game.

Elliott Kalan

[30:43] Or some kind of pornographic parody of a recent Hollywood blockbuster film.

[30:47] Or in someone's backyard slash rec room.

Dan McCoy

[30:49] Or not so recent.

[30:50] Like Playmate of the Apes.

Elliott Kalan

[30:53] Yeah, that's true.

[30:54] That is a parody of the Playmate of the Apes series.

Dan McCoy

[30:58] Or the movie Tarzina, Jiggle in the Jungle, which I'm not even sure what it is.

[31:03] Is it spoofing a Tarzan film?

[31:05] Is it spoofing Sheena, which is, you know, early 80s?

[31:08] I have to assume that since Tar is in the name that it's Tarzan.

[31:12] Yeah, but what Tarzan movie are they spoofing?

[31:15] Are they spoofing the animated film?

Elliott Kalan

[31:16] The one with Casper Van Dien, Tarzan in the Lost City or whatever it was called?

[31:21] Tarzan at the center of the earth?

Dan McCoy

[31:22] I thought maybe they were spoofing Greystoke.

Elliott Kalan

[31:26] Yeah, Greystoke, the legend of Tarzan.

[31:28] The legend of Greystoke, whatever it was called.

[31:30] Megan, eyes are glazing over.

S3

[31:32] Yeah, I don't know the Tarzan movies.

[31:34] Nor do I know these homemade movies.

Elliott Kalan

[31:37] Let me explain the, this is a very low budget softcore porn company that we're talking about.

[31:43] No, I think she doesn't know the Tarzan films.

[31:45] Oh, okay.

[31:46] Well, I don't know those either.

[31:46] Johnny Weissmuller.

[31:47] All right.

[31:48] Olympic swimmer.

[31:49] He starred in many of these.

[31:50] The first one was directed by W.S. Van Dyke.

[31:52] Yeah.

[31:52] Woody Van Dyke.

S3

[31:54] And these are the low budget.

Elliott Kalan

[31:56] Mia Farrow's mom is the.

[31:57] Really?

[31:58] Well, Mia Farrow's mom played Jane in the old Tarzan.

[32:00] Tarzan and his mate.

S3

[32:01] Oh.

[32:02] No, no, no.

[32:03] I was wondering about the porns made from it.

[32:06] Oh, that's a company called, what?

[32:08] Seduction Cinema?

[32:09] I thought you were going to say Mia Farrow's mother was in the porn.

[32:13] No, no, no.

[32:14] And that would just be strange.

Elliott Kalan

[32:15] I don't know that she made any movies after Hannah and her sisters.

[32:17] Tarzan and his mate, by the way.

[32:18] Mia Farrow's mom was in that?

[32:19] Yeah, she plays Mia Farrow's mom.

S3

[32:21] Oh.

[32:22] What a stretch.

Elliott Kalan

[32:24] But anyway, I was going to say the scene where this informant gets shot involves 50 Cent

[32:30] knows she's wearing a wire.

[32:32] So the cops force, they go, we got to get her.

[32:35] We got to get her.

[32:35] And they force in their way in.

[32:37] He's like, the cavalry's here.

[32:39] They rang the doorbell.

Dan McCoy

[32:40] They rang the doorbell and the guy's like, no, I'm not letting you in.

[32:43] And they're like, come on, we just want to talk.

[32:44] He's like, okay, I'll let you in.

[32:45] And he lets them in.

S3

[32:46] He's like, I know what to look for and where to look for it.

Elliott Kalan

[32:49] And 50 Cent has a big fat bodyguard.

[32:52] Yes.

[32:53] And the character's name apparently is Stubby, according to the credits, or Stubs.

[32:58] And the man who played him is named Fatso.

[33:00] Is that true?

[33:01] According to the credits.

[33:02] Oh, wow.

[33:02] Unless there's another character.

[33:03] Unless that's Brian Dennehy's new stage name.

[33:06] Because he's a large man.

Dan McCoy

[33:07] I think he should go for it.

[33:08] It's bold.

Elliott Kalan

[33:09] He's adopting the name of Dom DeLuise.

[33:12] Dom DeLuise isn't using it.

[33:14] Yeah, sure.

[33:15] So they go to get her.

[33:18] 50 Cent gives her up.

[33:19] They're leaving.

[33:20] And he goes, hey, here's your wire back.

[33:23] Your wire back.

[33:23] And throws it to them in the air.

[33:25] And as Al Pacino goes to catch it, the fat bodyguard, for some reason, pulls out his gun.

Dan McCoy

[33:30] No, he's had his gun pulled already.

[33:32] Oh, he's had his gun pulled.

Elliott Kalan

[33:32] Well, shows himself with the gun pulled.

[33:34] Right, right.

[33:34] And they shoot him.

[33:36] And she gets in the crossfire.

[33:38] But it's literally one of the scenes where it's like, why did everyone start shooting their guns again?

[33:42] Yeah.

[33:42] What was the reason for this?

[33:43] Yeah, no.

[33:43] There were three people in the room.

Dan McCoy

[33:45] Out of those three, zero understood exactly what had happened in that action sequence.

[33:50] Yeah.

[33:51] Like, why did shooting start?

[33:52] Who started it?

[33:53] Why did it start?

Elliott Kalan

[33:53] And also, like, his bodyguard.

[33:56] He's a bodyguard for a drug dealer.

[33:57] He's probably not a great guy.

[33:58] But he's dead now.

[34:00] He was killed in the line of duty.

[34:02] In the line of duty.

[34:03] That's the way the war on drugs works, Elliot.

[34:05] I guess so.

[34:06] And now Pacino and Robert De Niro, I guess that's when they need to go into counseling with the police psychologist.

[34:11] Oh, that's right.

[34:11] That's what charts that.

[34:12] But it's just, it's very, like, flippantly handled.

Dan McCoy

[34:14] Like, oh, that guy's dead now.

[34:15] And you know what?

[34:16] This is a subplot that I didn't understand until I read the Wikipedia synopsis of the plot of Righteous Kill.

[34:21] Oh.

[34:21] Which is the, um.

[34:22] This is like a David Lynch film all of a sudden.

[34:24] The whole point of them going into counseling was that then they would write their feelings in those little notebooks.

[34:30] Yes, in the little model notebooks.

[34:31] They both got them.

[34:32] They both got them tied up because De Niro didn't write anything in his notebook.

[34:35] Right.

[34:35] He's lazy.

[34:36] He didn't give a shit about it.

[34:37] But Al Pacino was writing his confession.

[34:39] Yeah.

[34:40] The whole time.

[34:40] Yeah.

[34:40] But they made it look like De Niro was writing it.

[34:42] It all fit together.

[34:43] Yeah.

[34:43] It's like all the puzzle pieces fell into place.

[34:46] Oh, yeah.

Dan McCoy

[34:46] It's just beautifully done.

[34:47] By the way, all the puzzle pieces falling into place.

[34:49] At the end of the movie, there's a sequence that is the all the puzzle pieces fall into place sequence.

[34:54] Yeah.

[34:55] And you can't see me over the medium of podcasting, but I'm making air quotes.

[34:59] Yeah.

[34:59] Because all the puzzle pieces falling into place.

[35:01] The montage was not like, oh, of course, he said that and that meant that.

[35:06] Right.

[35:06] It was just, now we're going to show you flashbacks of everyone being shot and we're going to show you Al Pacino shooting those people.

[35:13] Yeah.

S3

[35:13] Because there are a couple times when people get shot and they're like, oh, detective, it's...

[35:17] So you know it is a cop.

[35:20] Oh, it's you.

[35:20] It's you.

[35:20] What are you doing here?

Elliott Kalan

[35:21] Yeah.

[35:22] Kapow, kapow.

[35:23] Yeah.

[35:23] Well, there's a scene where...

[35:24] He came to see me.

[35:26] Yeah.

[35:26] There's a scene where Carla Gugino...

[35:28] Yeah, Carla Gugino has been...

[35:30] Al Pacino also, for Lord knows what reason, this makes no sense, beats up and rapes Carla Gugino.

[35:36] Or at the very least, beats up and takes her clothes off.

[35:38] Yeah.

[35:38] There's no reason for it.

[35:40] Right.

[35:40] And then tastefully drapes a shower curtain over her.

[35:42] But there's no reason for it.

[35:43] And then she calls Brian Dennehy and she's like, he was here and he did this.

[35:48] And Brian Dennehy's like, if that's true, well, I'll send somebody after him.

[35:51] We'll find him.

[35:52] Well, that's not enough.

[35:53] I'll go get him.

[35:54] And it's like, they're just going way out of their way to avoid saying the name of the man who did it because you're not supposed to know who it was yet.

[36:00] But it comes off as very stilted.

S3

[36:01] And you know, I'm just remembering, in the beginning there was the skateboarding pimp.

[36:06] Oh, yeah.

[36:06] He got shot.

[36:07] Played by Rob Rambo.

[36:10] And they refer to him as Rambo the skateboarding pimp.

[36:13] Played by...

[36:13] I literally said those words.

Elliott Kalan

[36:14] Sounds like an insane clown posse character.

[36:16] It really does.

S3

[36:18] Played by...

[36:18] It's a juggalo, if ever there was one.

[36:20] Rob Dreideck from the reality series Robin Big.

[36:24] He didn't do a bad job.

Elliott Kalan

[36:25] I don't know what that reality series is.

[36:26] It's a skateboarding pimp.

[36:27] It's a great...

S3

[36:27] It's actually very funny.

Elliott Kalan

[36:29] I don't like real life.

[36:30] I like fiction.

S3

[36:30] I like righteous kill.

Elliott Kalan

[36:32] Fiction like righteous kill.

[36:33] It was too real for me.

[36:35] It was too real.

S3

[36:36] That's why we have to pretend that it was fiction.

Dan McCoy

[36:38] Shit just got real.

[36:40] Righteous kill real.

[36:42] Boom.

[36:43] Does anyone else have anything to say before we move on to the next thing?

[36:46] Don't watch this movie ever.

[36:47] Well, no.

[36:48] That is...

[36:48] I feel like...

Elliott Kalan

[36:49] I feel like Werner Herzog listening to the tape of Timothy Treadwell being eaten by a bear

[36:53] saying, don't ever watch this.

[36:55] Take this tape and burn it.

[36:57] Don't ever watch it.

[36:58] I won't, Werner.

Dan McCoy

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[37:09] It's Dan here.

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[38:06] Yeah, the next part is where we make our final judgments on the movie.

Elliott Kalan

[38:10] Final judgments.

Dan McCoy

[38:13] I had to do both parts because Stuart's not here.

[38:15] We didn't let Megan know that some foley was going to be required of her.

[38:19] Yeah, yeah, sorry. Well, next time, maybe.

[38:21] Okay.

[38:21] So basically, we have three official categories, and those are,

[38:25] this is a good bad movie, a movie that you enjoyed in its badness.

[38:29] In its badness, okay.

[38:30] A bad bad movie, a movie that should only be left up to the professionals like us.

[38:36] Oh, okay.

[38:37] Or a movie that you kind of liked.

[38:40] You found some actual redeeming quality in it.

[38:43] And so, Megan, as the guest, I'll go to you.

S3

[38:45] I'm going to say this is a bad bad movie.

[38:48] I found no redeeming quality in it.

[38:50] And I mean, it was fun to watch with you two professional gentlemen.

[38:57] But I feel like...

[38:58] Professional gentlemen.

[38:59] We were white suits.

[38:59] It's like we're escorts.

Elliott Kalan

[39:01] Like we're dancers at a hall, and old ladies come by and pay us to dance.

[39:06] Wait, who's you guys' pimp?

Dan McCoy

[39:08] Rambo, the skateboarding pimp?

[39:10] Elliot, I've explained this to you.

[39:11] They don't pay us to dance.

[39:12] They buy a bottle of champagne for $50.

Elliott Kalan

[39:16] And we're encouraged by the help.

[39:17] Sure.

[39:18] By the management.

[39:19] That's how it works.

S3

[39:20] I'm sorry.

[39:21] Okay.

[39:21] But you two professionals...

Elliott Kalan

[39:23] We're taxi dancers.

[39:24] Okay.

S3

[39:25] I just feel like the plot is so convoluted, I guess.

[39:31] And the shots are terrible.

[39:33] The story's not worth paying attention to.

[39:36] This is a movie with...

[39:37] John Leguizamo.

Elliott Kalan

[39:38] Is it this?

[39:39] It's a movie with a fairly straightforward story that they go way out of their way to overcomplicate

[39:44] to the point where it doesn't make sense anymore.

S3

[39:45] And it makes you...

[39:46] When you're watching, it makes you think, wow.

[39:48] And makes you hurt.

[39:49] Well, no.

[39:49] It just makes you think, wow, Al Pacino and Robert De Niro, not good actors.

[39:53] Which is probably something that is not true.

Elliott Kalan

[39:56] If aliens found this...

[39:57] Well, it is true for the last 15 years.

[39:59] They would say these are the two worst actors maybe in human history.

[40:01] In human history.

[40:02] I don't understand.

[40:03] Maybe not in alien history.

[40:04] I can see why they're making this type of bad movie at their advanced age because they

[40:08] didn't have the talent to graduate to better films by this point.

Dan McCoy

[40:13] I gotta say, yeah.

[40:14] A bad, bad movie.

[40:16] This director, John Avnett, also made the Al Pacino opus 88 minutes.

Elliott Kalan

[40:22] Which is the movie, again, where a minor plot point is that Al Pacino's semen has been

[40:26] sucked out of the corpse of a woman he did have sex with and then inserted into the corpse

[40:30] of a woman he didn't have sex with.

S3

[40:32] Oh, wow.

[40:33] I didn't...

[40:33] I have not seen it.

Dan McCoy

[40:33] I have to say, that was also a plot point in the film Presumed Innocent, which was not

[40:38] a bad movie.

[40:39] So it could be used...

Elliott Kalan

[40:40] I'm saying, if that happened in a good movie, I'd be like, that's a disturbing thing.

[40:45] But in a bad movie, it's like, that's unnecessary.

[40:47] That's a disturbing thing.

[40:47] It's also a movie where a man has 88 minutes left to live, basically, and he spends much

[40:52] of it just hanging out in his apartment with Alicia Witt, not really doing much of anything,

[40:56] just kind of talking, just hanging out.

Dan McCoy

[40:57] Just making cookies.

[40:58] Yeah, well, and this movie was sold on, like, you know, you loved them in heat.

[41:03] Yeah.

[41:03] You wanted to see them in heat.

[41:05] They were together in one scene in heat.

[41:07] What if heat, what if that one scene was a whole movie?

[41:11] Yeah.

[41:11] And I gotta say, heat's alright.

[41:14] It's about an hour too long, in my opinion.

[41:16] But it's a very, like, competently made movie.

[41:19] It's a thrilling movie in many ways.

[41:22] This movie, I had no idea what was happening from moment to moment.

[41:26] And as you said, Elliot, they have no chemistry together, actually, Pacino and De Niro.

Elliott Kalan

[41:30] Well, it's...

[41:31] Heat is like...

[41:32] Even if they'd never made heat, like, this is Travis Bickle, Jake LaMotta, meeting,

[41:37] you know, Michael Corleone, Serpico in a movie.

[41:40] Like, this should be...

[41:41] Even if they'd never done anything together.

[41:43] Even if they've never made Godfather 2, where they're in the same movie, but they don't

[41:46] have any scenes together.

[41:47] This should have been, like, at least an interesting thing to watch.

[41:50] Right.

[41:51] It could have been any two guys playing those parts, and it would have been...

[41:54] And it would have been bad stuff.

[41:55] Yeah.

[41:55] It would have been the same movie.

[41:56] It would not...

Dan McCoy

[41:57] It probably would have been better, too.

[41:58] Like, if they had, like, two, like, old guys who have been known for playing, like, detectives,

[42:04] like, if it was, like, I don't know, James Garner and Dennis Farina, I would have enjoyed

[42:08] this movie more.

Elliott Kalan

[42:09] Or, like, Dennis Franz and, you know, somebody.

[42:12] Yeah.

[42:12] If this was a reuniting...

[42:13] Jimmy Smith.

[42:14] Charles Napier.

[42:15] That's the thing.

[42:16] If this was the reuniting of Dennis Franz and David Caruso, like, I would have been...

[42:19] I was just going to say.

Elliott Kalan

[42:19] It would have made the movie more exciting, you know.

[42:21] True.

[42:22] I really want to see James Spader as one of these characters for some reason.

[42:25] Yeah.

S3

[42:26] Which one?

[42:27] Maybe the David Finch.

[42:28] Both, maybe.

[42:29] Both.

[42:29] He could do it.

Elliott Kalan

[42:30] If Patty Duke could do it, then James Spader can do it.

[42:32] Just get that guy a wig.

[42:34] Oh, but anyway...

[42:34] That's the bad cop.

[42:36] So he's his evil twin, is what you're saying.

[42:38] I'm going to agree with you guys that it was a bad, bad movie.

Dan McCoy

[42:40] Okay.

[42:41] Three for three.

[42:42] Don't watch it.

[42:43] Don't watch it.

[42:43] So, we do have a few letters, but I'm going to hold off on that until next time because...

[42:50] The steward's not here?

[42:50] The steward's not...

[42:51] Can I read the letters after the recording?

[42:53] Yeah.

[42:53] Okay.

[42:54] You guys just get disappointed when, like, they get read when one of you is not here.

[42:57] I do.

Elliott Kalan

[42:58] I like talking to the peeps.

[42:59] Yeah.

[43:00] I like replying.

[43:01] I apologize, Megan.

Dan McCoy

[43:01] I don't want you to feel like a second class class.

[43:04] Are we going to talk about...

[43:05] Oh, too late.

[43:05] I already do.

[43:06] Are we going to talk about the international attention?

[43:07] We did get some attention from a Norwegian gentleman.

[43:11] Oh.

[43:12] So, I'm going to tease that.

S3

[43:13] Did you guys buy a bottle of champagne for a special bottle?

Elliott Kalan

[43:17] Professional Norwegian gentleman.

[43:20] Sven Olsen.

[43:21] Yeah.

[43:22] I do like bad movies.

[43:23] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[43:24] I don't want to offend our Norwegian...

[43:26] You've already had.

[43:27] It's too late.

[43:27] Too late.

[43:29] You should edit that out.

[43:30] Yeah.

[43:30] He wrote something about us on a Norwegian forum.

[43:36] I don't think that it was about being Norwegian, but I know that the forum was in Norwegian.

[43:42] And I did a free translation of it online.

[43:46] Oh, okay.

[43:46] It was mostly coherent.

[43:48] It was mostly coherent.

[43:49] So, in the future...

[43:50] I'm going to blame the translation program.

[43:51] We'll talk a little bit about that.

[43:52] I'm teasing that.

[43:53] Okay.

[43:53] But right now, what we are going to talk about is a movie that we've seen recently that we

[43:58] actually enjoyed.

[43:59] Some sort of recommendation or failing a recommendation.

[44:04] Some sort of positive word to make us not feel like we're just bitter.

[44:08] Just bitter.

[44:09] To cleanse the palate.

[44:10] Yeah.

[44:10] Okay.

[44:11] To send you out singing a song.

[44:13] Yeah.

S3

[44:15] Should I start?

[44:16] Yeah, if you have one.

[44:17] Well, yeah.

[44:17] Just because I was just saying this to you guys, to you professional gentlemen.

[44:22] I actually went to go see Julie and Julia with Meryl Streep and Amy Adams, who I'm sure

[44:28] anybody listening to this podcast is like, that's not for me.

Elliott Kalan

[44:31] They're like, oh, my girlfriend's making me go see that movie.

S3

[44:34] Yeah, exactly.

Elliott Kalan

[44:36] Or they're like, I'm so glad I don't have a girlfriend so I don't have to go see that movie.

[44:39] They're like, oh, I wish I had a girlfriend.

[44:40] I'm so lonely.

S3

[44:41] Where's Stuart?

[44:44] I'll go hang out with him.

Elliott Kalan

[44:46] I can live vicariously through his large penis.

[44:48] Oh, God.

Dan McCoy

[44:50] And play some sort of fantasy football.

[44:53] He's got everything.

S3

[44:55] But Meryl Streep in this movie is incredible.

[44:57] She does an incredible job of, I think, channeling Julia Childs without doing an impression

[45:04] of Julia Childs.

[45:06] And it's a...

[45:07] Child.

S3

[45:07] It was just one child.

[45:08] I'm sorry.

[45:08] Thank you.

[45:08] She didn't have one.

[45:09] It was Julia Child.

[45:10] She only had the one child.

[45:11] Thank you.

[45:11] She didn't actually have any children.

[45:13] What?

Elliott Kalan

[45:14] It's true.

[45:15] That's the sort of tidbit that you can take out.

[45:17] That you...

[45:18] That you...

S3

[45:18] And she was a...

[45:19] What a terrible thing to say.

[45:21] Yeah.

[45:21] She was a fascinating lady.

[45:22] Or at least Meryl Streep makes you believe that she was a fascinating lady.

[45:25] So I recommend that.

[45:27] Go.

[45:28] Go to a matinee.

[45:30] Take it all in with the middle-aged ladies that surround you.

[45:33] Or your gay best friend.

[45:33] You were by far the youngest person.

[45:35] I was by far the youngest person.

[45:36] Well, that...

[45:37] And my friend that I went with.

[45:38] My gay best friend Joe.

[45:39] Who's only three years older than I am.

[45:42] So...

Elliott Kalan

[45:42] I know a gay guy named Joe.

[45:43] Maybe they're the same guy.

S3

[45:44] I bet they are.

Elliott Kalan

[45:45] There just can't be too many of them out there.

[45:46] There's just one.

[45:47] I don't think so.

[45:47] Oh, okay.

Dan McCoy

[45:48] So I don't know whether this is like actually a rousing recommendation.

[45:52] It's more of a...

[45:53] This movie was a lot better than I expected recommendation.

[45:56] Which was...

[45:56] I saw Gran Torino recently.

[45:58] Oh.

[45:59] I still have to see that.

[45:59] And based on the trailers, I was like...

[46:02] This is either going to be like a completely maudlin like...

[46:06] You know, exploration of a racist learning to love.

[46:09] Or it's going to be like a terrible latter day revenge fantasy.

[46:14] Set in Detroit.

[46:14] And it was a little bit the first one towards the end of the movie.

[46:19] Like the last 20 minutes gets a little like melodramatic in a bad way.

[46:24] I mean melodrama can be fun.

[46:25] But like it goes a little over the top.

[46:27] But what I didn't realize was it's basically a comedy in a lot of ways.

[46:32] Like if you ever want to see a movie that's just old Clint Eastwood...

[46:36] Yes.

[46:37] ...growling at a series of people...

S3

[46:38] You know me.

[46:39] That's all I want to see.

Elliott Kalan

[46:40] I would...

[46:41] If it was a movie of Clint Eastwood sitting on a chair in his lawn just barking at

[46:44] Passerby's.

[46:46] Passerby's.

[46:46] That would be the movie I want to see.

[46:47] That's basically it.

[46:48] Oh, then I want to see this movie.

Dan McCoy

[46:49] There's just like a series of characters that Clint Eastwood is presented with.

[46:53] And he's just like an old jerk to all of them.

[46:56] And he's literally...

[46:58] Like the first time you see him in the movie, he's introduced by him growling.

[47:02] Like it's at his wife's funeral.

[47:04] Like the camera pans over all of the murders.

[47:06] I'm laughing already.

Dan McCoy

[47:06] And they go into Clint Eastwood and he's like...

[47:10] It's a fantastic performance from him.

[47:15] You know?

[47:15] It's grumpy old man.

[47:18] Torino.

[47:19] Yeah.

[47:20] Grumpy old man Torino.

[47:21] And so on that level, I really enjoyed it.

[47:23] So that's what I have to say about that movie.

[47:24] I'd like to see that film.

Elliott Kalan

[47:25] Elliot?

[47:25] I would like...

[47:26] I have a very rousing recommendation.

[47:29] Did I recommend A Matter of Life and Death already?

[47:31] Or no?

[47:32] No, but it sounds important.

[47:33] Yeah, I guess.

[47:34] It is A Matter of Life and Death.

[47:36] Boom.

[47:37] There's a movie I saw recently that I fell in love with called A Matter of Life.

Dan McCoy

[47:40] Why don't you marry it?

Elliott Kalan

[47:41] I'm already engaged, asshole.

[47:44] I know.

[47:45] If I had met the movie before I met Danielle, it would be a different story.

[47:48] I'm telling her.

[47:49] Don't tell her I said that.

[47:50] She doesn't listen to this anyway.

[47:51] That's what every girl wants to hear.

[47:53] She hates it.

[47:54] Well, she just knows this as the thing that I do where I come home late once every two weeks.

[47:57] Yeah.

[47:57] So I'm the guy who's keeping you away from her in her mind.

Dan McCoy

[48:01] Hey, somebody's waiting up for me, too.

[48:04] All right.

[48:04] Well, anyway...

[48:05] Stuart.

Elliott Kalan

[48:08] This is...

[48:10] A Matter of Life and Death is a British film from 1946.

[48:14] It was from the Powell and Pressburger team, who you may know as perhaps the greatest director

[48:20] or producer team in film history.

[48:21] Oh.

[48:22] I don't know who they're.

[48:22] Michael Powell and Emmerich Pressburger.

[48:24] Emmerich, what a great name.

[48:25] Who created such classics as The Red Shoes, Black Narcissus, The Life and Death of Colonel

[48:30] Blimp.

[48:31] I know where I'm going.

[48:33] Michael Powell would have gone to do Peeping Tom, but I don't think Pressburger was involved

[48:37] in that one.

[48:38] Like, really great movies.

[48:39] And this is one I hadn't seen yet, where David Niven is an RAF pilot.

[48:43] The movie opens with him about to crash his plane.

[48:47] And he makes his last communication with an American woman auxiliary officer who is manning the radio

[48:54] station in England.

[48:55] And they amazingly hit it off while he's plummeting to a fiery death.

[49:00] He decides to bail out of his plane.

[49:02] He'd rather jump than burn up.

[49:04] And it's so foggy that the man sent from heaven to get him misses him.

[49:09] Oh.

[49:10] So he awakes on the beach completely alive, not a scratch on him.

[49:14] And the guy who was sent, the angel was sent to get him, who was this kind of French fop

[49:18] who was killed during the French Revolution.

[49:20] So he's got a scarf around his neck that he won't take off because his head would fall off.

[49:25] So it's a cross between a movie and an old campfire tale.

[49:28] Well, kind of, in a way.

[49:30] But he says to him, you have to come with me.

[49:33] And David Niven refuses to.

[49:35] He's in love with this woman.

[49:36] He doesn't want to go.

[49:37] The woman is good friends with a neurologist who thinks that this is all going on inside

[49:41] of David Niven's head.

[49:42] And David Niven says that I want to appeal to the highest court in heaven to get this

[49:47] so that I don't have to go.

[49:48] Like, I deserve to stay on Earth.

[49:49] I don't want to tell everything that happens.

[49:51] But, like, all the sequences sent on Earth are in color.

[49:54] And all these sequences set in heaven are in black and white.

[49:57] It's just, like, a really, like, sweet.

[49:59] Take that, heaven.

[50:00] Take that, yeah.

[50:01] It's a really sweet movie.

[50:02] You're Kansas in this scenario.

[50:04] But, like, it's such a well-made movie.

[50:07] And it's so good.

[50:08] And, like, it's very funny at times.

[50:10] And it's very touching at other times.

[50:11] And the way it's shot is just absolutely beautiful.

[50:14] Like, they never, they always are looking for interesting ways to shoot things that don't

[50:18] look crazy, but they just look interesting.

[50:20] There's something about the way that Powell and Pressburger in their movies shoot

[50:24] objects in this kind of mid-40s, very rich color that is, that just looks beautiful.

[50:29] Like, everything has this very, like, firm three-dimension feel to it that a lot of movies

[50:35] don't get.

[50:35] It's, like, very painterly colors, but everything feels like it's in three dimensions.

[50:39] So it was a really good movie.

[50:40] I highly recommend it.

[50:41] I'm going to check that out.

[50:42] Do it.

[50:43] It's called A Matter of Life and Death.

[50:44] But the DVD right now, it was released in America under the title Stairway to Heaven.

[50:48] So the DVD release, I think, is titled Stairway to Heaven.

[50:51] I've heard it under that.

[50:52] Okay.

[50:52] But the original title was A Matter of Life and Death, which I think is a better title.

[50:56] Yeah.

[50:56] Because there's a song called Stairway to Heaven.

S3

[50:59] Which we all know.

[51:00] Don't play it, Dan.

[51:01] No.

[51:02] Don't play it.

Dan McCoy

[51:03] Well, I'm not.

[51:05] I mean, the music rights alone would, you know, bankrupt.

Elliott Kalan

[51:08] Yeah, because you pay for the music rights on this podcast.

[51:12] I know.

Dan McCoy

[51:13] I don't use any copyrighted material.

[51:16] Although, I don't think that the remaining members of Led Zeppelin would probably track

[51:22] me down.

[51:23] Probably not.

S3

[51:24] You never know.

[51:24] This professional gentleman in Norway found you.

Dan McCoy

[51:28] So, guys, I think we better wrap it up because I can hear Elliot's allergies kicking in the

[51:35] longer he's in my cat-filled apartment.

Elliott Kalan

[51:38] It's just the one cat, but it does feel cat-filled.

[51:40] Cat-filled.

[51:41] It's not like we're, like, pushing open the door because there's so many cats in that it's

[51:45] hard to open the door.

[51:46] We've got to squeeze through these piles of cats.

S3

[51:48] We have a sketch about that.

[51:50] Yeah.

[51:50] Oh, really?

[51:51] Yeah.

[51:51] You didn't see that one?

[51:52] Oh, I did not see that one.

[51:53] It's for a later date.

Dan McCoy

[51:54] Yeah.

[51:54] Elliot's got to come out and see another Mr. White Pants show.

[51:57] Yeah, the one I saw last time I liked a lot.

[51:59] Boom.

[52:00] Glenn recommendation.

Elliott Kalan

[52:00] Man, that Matt Coff, he sure is funny.

[52:02] He is the breakout star.

[52:04] He is the best guy on that stage.

[52:06] I've got to tell you.

[52:06] All right.

[52:06] There we go.

[52:07] Talent, like the sun, and then you've got a couple, I guess, rocks that are with him.

[52:11] Sure.

Elliott Kalan

[52:11] All right.

[52:11] Just outshines the mood.

[52:13] You know what?

S3

[52:13] If I was a six-foot-four guy with glasses and slightly strange-looking, I would be funny,

[52:18] too.

[52:19] No, you guys are fine.

Elliott Kalan

[52:19] You guys are fine.

[52:20] But that guy, he is.

Dan McCoy

[52:22] Well, on that note.

[52:24] So, Stairway to Heaven.

[52:25] I'd like to say.

[52:26] Good night or good morning, depending on when you're listening to this.

[52:30] Or good afternoon.

[52:31] For the Flophouse.

[52:32] It's a podcast.

[52:33] Yeah.

[52:33] Really, it's two-order entertainment.

[52:37] Whenever you want it.

[52:38] Yeah.

[52:38] That's the beauty of it.

[52:39] On demand.

[52:40] For the Flophouse, I've been Dan McCoy.

S3

[52:42] And I'm Megan O'Neill.

Dan McCoy

[52:43] And I remain Elliot Kalin.

[52:45] Good night.

[52:46] Good night.

[52:47] Thank you.

Elliott Kalan

[52:48] That was adorable.

[52:49] So polite.

S3

[52:50] That was to you guys.

[52:51] Thanks, guys.

[52:52] Thanks.

Elliott Kalan

[53:11] That's when things got weird.

[53:14] That's when Dan turned into a gay monster.

The Flop House_ Episode #43 - Righteous Kill

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