The Flop House: Episode #66 - Blood: The Last Vampire

[0:00] In this episode, we try and cash in on the vampire craze by discussing Blood, the Last Vampire.

[0:30] Welcome to the Flophouse, I'm Dan McCoy.

[0:41] I am Elliot Kalin.

[0:43] And I'm special guest, Federico Hatoum.

[0:45] Oh wow, you did half of our work for us, indicating that you were a special guest.

[0:52] Well I figured that was my job.

[0:53] And saying your own name.

[0:54] Was I not supposed to say that?

[0:58] Well we like to have the option of coming up with a fake name for the guest.

[1:01] Damn it.

[1:02] Yours would have been Billy Midnight.

[1:06] So I guess he lost out.

[1:09] We're continuing our trend of disappointing our audience.

[1:12] I mean not that you're a disappointment.

[1:14] No, that's not how I took it at all.

[1:17] That's how I took it.

[1:18] And I just say, Fed, for you I'm offended.

[1:24] Usually if we've been gone for a while, we like to come back with all three of the regular

[1:30] hosts.

[1:31] But Stuart, I don't know, what the fuck is he doing?

[1:35] I don't remember if it's work or...

[1:38] He's a shadowy guy, he's kind of mysterious.

[1:41] Does he say things like, I had to go see some guy about some stuff?

[1:44] Doesn't explain what it is.

[1:46] Except the way he says it's like, yeah, so I was fucking my girlfriend, and that's his

[1:52] version of, I was seeing a guy about some stuff.

[1:55] Naked Sundays, that's a thing they do.

[1:58] Well, we don't need to talk about that.

[2:00] You can probably cut that out of the podcast.

[2:03] Actually, he would say banging my girlfriend.

[2:06] Or he would say something about getting his joint worked, or something like that.

[2:10] The information is not that personal, because he shared us.

[2:14] Yeah, that's true.

[2:15] No, Fed is a co-host of the number one foreign language, or Spanish language.

[2:24] Yeah, at this point, Spanish is not a foreign language.

[2:26] It's as American as apple pie.

[2:27] Macintosh podcast.

[2:29] Apple.

[2:30] Apple-related.

[2:31] Apple-related.

[2:32] Podcast.

[2:33] It's called Budo Mac, believe it or not.

[2:36] And if you go on iTunes Spain, for example, you'll see it is always, much to my surprise,

[2:42] always in the top, usually the top 20 of all podcasts, including video podcasts.

[2:47] And what do you talk about on it?

[2:49] We talk about Apple products, and Apple news, and you know,

[2:54] every time Steve Jobs says something that's obnoxious, we say,

[2:57] Oh, that's Steve Jobs.

[2:59] And we shake our fists.

[3:00] But you say it in Spanish, right?

[3:01] But we say it in Spanish, yes.

[3:02] How would that go?

[3:03] Ese Steve Jobs es un idiota.

[3:05] Lo odio al tipo.

[3:06] And how do you translate,

[3:07] How do you translate, err?

[3:09] Err.

[3:12] It's a charming language.

[3:14] Yes, it has such subtleties.

[3:16] Wow.

[3:17] You know, well, our producer has been saying that, you know.

[3:21] You have a producer?

[3:24] Our producer has been saying that.

[3:26] We're in your living room.

[3:29] That we are, that the one quadrant we're not servicing is Spanish-speaking.

[3:34] Yeah, that's the one quadrant we're not servicing.

[3:37] And now, finally.

[3:40] Because we've already got the tween girl market.

[3:43] We've already got the elderly market.

[3:46] Name the fourth quadrant that we have in.

[3:49] Retired servicemen.

[3:52] I think Stuart, with his frequent contributions to humor and uniform,

[3:57] is covering that for us.

[4:00] So, anyway, what did we watch tonight?

[4:04] I don't even remember.

[4:07] We watched a movie called Blood, The Last Vampire.

[4:10] Blood, colon, The Last Vampire.

[4:13] Wait, Chris, did we explain on the website why it had been so long since our last episode?

[4:16] Yeah, let's address this for a little bit.

[4:19] Before we get, let's kill some time.

[4:22] I don't even know why.

[4:23] You really don't?

[4:24] No.

[4:25] Well, Elliot got married for one thing.

[4:26] Yeah, because I got married.

[4:27] That's true.

[4:28] And then it was just the inertia from the marriage.

[4:31] From high school.

[4:34] I can't even remember.

[4:36] I'm doing the running joke and I can't even remember what it was.

[4:38] Anne Hathaway.

[4:39] Anne Hathaway, right, yes.

[4:40] Much like Rachel got married.

[4:41] She doesn't even play Rachel in that movie.

[4:43] She's Rachel's sister.

[4:45] That's true.

[4:46] And she played your sister in your wedding.

[4:48] No, no.

[4:49] My sister was played by my sister in the wedding.

[4:51] Oh, that's not as exciting.

[4:53] Who, by the way, I spent the entire wedding.

[4:55] Speaking of actors, I spent the entire wedding trying to figure out

[4:58] what actress your sister looks like.

[5:00] She looks like someone and I couldn't come up with it.

[5:02] Why don't you ask her?

[5:04] Who do you look like?

[5:05] Ask your twin sister and ask her what actress she looks like.

[5:09] What famous actress she looks like.

[5:10] Oh, she's your twin.

[5:11] That's awesome.

[5:12] Yeah, yeah.

[5:13] She's my twin sister.

[5:14] Rosemary DeWitt was Rachel.

[5:15] By the way, Rachel getting married.

[5:16] That finally came back to me.

[5:18] But yes, a month ago today, I got married.

[5:23] And it's one of the reasons that the podcast has not been done

[5:28] because now that I'm married, my wife no longer approves of my friends,

[5:31] especially my podcasting friends.

[5:33] When I told her Stewart was not going to be able to make it tonight,

[5:35] she said it was okay.

[5:36] There's constantly a rolling pin hovering just behind your head.

[5:41] We subscribe to the Andy Kapp Lockhorn School of Marriage,

[5:45] which is if you're not fighting, things aren't all righting.

[5:50] Wow.

[5:51] So you get into like a big ball of fists and teeth?

[5:55] Yeah, and just kind of like dust lines.

[5:57] Dust lines.

[5:58] Yeah, and lightning bolts.

[5:59] Interesting.

[6:00] Yeah.

[6:01] But it works for you.

[6:02] That was reason number one.

[6:04] And then reason number two was I was doing some –

[6:08] first I was doing some freelance work for Cinemax that may or may not see air.

[6:12] So I can't really –

[6:13] You tell about the role you're playing on the new show,

[6:17] New York Sex Cabinets.

[6:19] I'm playing Tex McCabe, the stubbly stranger from out west

[6:25] who comes and seduces Misty Monday.

[6:28] No, I'm doing some animation work that may or may not be broadcast.

[6:34] So that's number one.

[6:35] And then number two.

[6:36] And then number two, I was in the New York TV and Video Festival

[6:39] in support of my independent television pilot 9 a.m. meeting.

[6:45] Which?

[6:46] Based on the successful –

[6:47] Which?

[6:48] Come on.

[6:49] Which won the MTV award for animation, which came along with it.

[6:52] So you got one of those Moon Men trophies?

[6:54] Yeah, I got some gold-plated popcorn.

[6:57] Popcorn with a Moon Man on it.

[6:59] You won for best kiss.

[7:00] It was me and Kristen Stewart.

[7:03] And yeah, it was tremendous.

[7:06] That was – actually, I was at the first screening of the –

[7:10] of whatever animation – you were in animation group two.

[7:13] And I have to say I've seen all the episodes before,

[7:16] but I really enjoyed seeing it in a big group of people.

[7:19] And the audience loved 9 a.m. meeting.

[7:22] You know who did not love it?

[7:23] Who?

[7:24] Was the reviewer from the Onion A.V. Club.

[7:26] Really?

[7:27] Who came to the – no, he gave us a C.

[7:28] That was crap.

[7:29] Really?

[7:30] He wrote – he wrote – or she – wrote a – of all the animation things,

[7:34] I think yours might have had the longest review with the most specifics in it.

[7:38] Like this was obviously a show that stuck in this person's mind the most.

[7:42] And yet at the end they're like,

[7:44] ah, body gets a little tired after a while.

[7:46] Which is one – especially compared to the other things

[7:50] that were in your block of nominees, not true.

[7:54] And then it was like – it was like they were going out of their way to not –

[7:58] you know, to not give a good grade.

[8:00] I bring it up just because I'm a negative person.

[8:03] But I mean –

[8:04] I bring it up because I like to burn bridges.

[8:07] Yeah, I do like to burn –

[8:08] So you hear that A.V. Club?

[8:09] Dan McCoy thinks you're terrible.

[8:12] Actually, I love the Onion A.V. Club,

[8:14] which is why it hurts my feelings.

[8:15] You never read your rag, which I love, by the way.

[8:18] It hurts my feelings.

[8:19] But it just doesn't matter because ultimately MTV gave us the money.

[8:25] Yes.

[8:26] Congratulations.

[8:27] It did go – it did play very well with an audience.

[8:29] I saw the second screening of it.

[8:30] Oh, you did?

[8:31] Well, it should.

[8:32] I mean like not to –

[8:33] it's been a mainstay of Channel 101.

[8:35] We've been – we were brought back for ten months in a row.

[8:37] So it plays well for an audience.

[8:39] I feel bad I haven't seen any of those.

[8:41] That's fine.

[8:42] I'm just saying I know for a fact that it plays for an audience

[8:44] because if it didn't, they would have canceled us long ago.

[8:47] Yeah, that's true.

[8:48] So that's why we haven't had done a show in a while,

[8:51] in a podcast in a while.

[8:52] But we're coming back with one of our best episodes ever, I think.

[8:55] Ever.

[8:56] You saw BL infinity D, The Last Vampire.

[9:00] Yeah, that's how it's written.

[9:02] Actually, the two O's look like an infinity symbol.

[9:05] I'm not sure why they did that.

[9:06] It should be, I guess, BL infinity D colon The Last Vampire.

[9:11] Or it should have been an eight,

[9:13] like you write a B when you're writing boobs on a calculator.

[9:17] BL infinity D.

[9:19] I would just draw boobs on the calculator.

[9:21] Like on the keypad.

[9:22] Just ruin it.

[9:23] Yeah.

[9:24] You could still use it.

[9:25] Sharping.

[9:26] Boobs.

[9:27] Let's sex up this calculator a bit.

[9:29] Yeah, come on.

[9:30] Come on, Texas Instruments.

[9:32] T-I, you are not giving me an erection.

[9:35] Let's make T-I into T-N-A.

[9:37] More like T-A.

[9:38] Yeah.

[9:39] High five.

[9:40] R-O-C-K in the USA.

[9:41] Right there.

[9:44] So we saw BL The Last Vampire.

[9:46] Yes.

[9:47] Which appears to be an English language Japanese film.

[9:52] Yeah.

[9:53] Yes.

[9:54] It's an English language version.

[9:55] It's a live-action version of, as they say in the credits,

[9:58] it's based on a movie.

[10:00] on the animation

[10:01] bloodless vampire

[10:04] so uh... i guess that's

[10:06] what they say is that common where an animation becomes a live-action film

[10:10] like i mean uh...

[10:11] well yeah i think it's successful

[10:13] which we did for the flop house was another and uh... avatar of the last airbender

[10:18] and uh...

[10:21] teenage mutant ninja turtles

[10:25] yeah that's an eastern layered that's not japanese

[10:29] were we just talking japanese? well i thought it was more common in japan

[10:34] i think it is i think it is more common in japan

[10:37] uh... so resolved

[10:39] but uh...

[10:40] it was interesting that they said based on the animation but i guess trying to make it sound adult

[10:44] not based on the cartoon or based on the drawings

[10:48] americanized the term

[10:51] anime

[10:52] i mean like that would be the literal... well the american version is japanimation

[10:56] which is what the section in the video story i grew up with labeled it

[11:00] japanimation

[11:02] i love that term actually

[11:06] but uh... this it's uh... it's a story we're all familiar with of a

[11:09] young girl... a tale as old as time

[11:14] of a young girl of indeterminate centuries of age

[11:17] who uh...

[11:19] fights demons with a sword dressed as a schoolgirl but she started out as a

[11:23] little girl she starts out as a little girl trained by her old man dad

[11:28] everyone else

[11:30] and of course she's working with a shadowy organization that cleans up after

[11:34] her murders of vampire demons right and she's just trying to get revenge on the

[11:38] vampire demon who killed her father

[11:41] called on again

[11:43] which uh... and so for this mission she sent to an american army base on in uh...

[11:48] in japan... 1970... and it's set in 1970... it's a time... for no reason...

[11:53] there's no reason it's a period piece... it's almost like they bought too many sideburns

[11:57] so they had to turn it into a period piece

[12:01] they had a sideburn warehouse... because if not for... we've got a gross of sideburns what do we do with them... and there's one

[12:06] headline that says

[12:07] uh... u.s. bombers

[12:09] ravish vietnamese landscape

[12:12] which i think they probably meant ravage... and i pointed out they probably meant

[12:16] radish... because the radishes are very important in japanese culture... yeah that's

[12:20] very true... but they're apparently ravishing the landscape... so i guess

[12:25] these planes are just... gorgeous... just you know

[12:28] having their seducing the vietnamese landscape

[12:31] uh... but

[12:32] there's not too much

[12:34] going on in this movie

[12:35] no there really isn't... it was short... this might be the shortest movie we've watched

[12:39] uh... it's like eighty four minutes long... no it was eighty eight minutes

[12:44] i don't think so... unlike the movie eighty eight minutes... which was two hours...

[12:49] uh... but it was... talk about your false advertising

[12:53] the

[12:55] but it's basically this girl

[12:56] gets a mission

[12:58] she wants revenge on this demon

[13:00] she goes... she kills a lot of demons

[13:02] there's an american girl sidekick... and i don't mean by that one of the american girl

[13:07] dolls... it's not like... it's... it's... you know... but polly grows up in

[13:13] eighteen thirty seven

[13:15] but uh...

[13:16] it's... it seemed very by the numbers... but at the same time

[13:19] in the way it was made

[13:20] totally crazy

[13:23] and uh... yeah... it was really straightforward... she's given a

[13:27] mission to fight demons

[13:29] another girl discovers there's demons and so she joins in on the mission

[13:33] and then... and they fight demons... sort of deliberately... but then really... like she seems to

[13:37] suddenly know everything about demons... even though she's had no experience with them

[13:41] there's a long flashback at the end to the uh... demon hunting girl getting trained

[13:46] or like i guess... and her... and her father being killed... right... and then uh...

[13:51] flashbacks within flashbacks of things we've never seen before... yes... of her training

[13:56] and then it turns out at the end that the head demon is... was her mother and

[14:01] that's it... and then she kills her... and that's the end of the movie... where did that happen? i don't remember that... it's in the climax of the film

[14:05] what?

[14:07] it's literally announced

[14:08] maybe five times during the climax of the film... yeah

[14:11] but i am your mother

[14:12] now you must kill me

[14:14] because i am your mother... to become me

[14:17] why...

[14:18] why was the american girl in this movie guys? i have no idea... to get... she is

[14:23] the audience identification character... she's a pretty girl

[14:27] but then she... which is what we all want to be...

[14:31] a pretty girl... a young pretty girl... who's having trouble with her one-star general

[14:35] father... a girl who looks kind of like a cross between ellen page and... and elliot caylen... that's what you were going to say... you were going to say elliot caylen and ellen page

[14:44] i can't think of a prettier combination... ravishing elliot caylen... uh... radishing... radishing... i've been told i'm radishing... you're very tart like a radish

[14:58] but she's... she's basically... she's supposed to be the

[15:02] star of the movie basically

[15:04] but she is not interesting and the real star is the

[15:07] japanese girl with the super sword skills... she has more... you know... it being an english language movie

[15:12] she has more lines

[15:14] than the real star

[15:15] she says more words... yes but that's also because the real star is like the silent

[15:19] mysterious type... yeah... but there's no reason for her to be there other than... true... she's uh...

[15:24] she's being attacked by demons and uh... what was the main character... shia... shia...

[15:29] uh... shia... shia labeouf... shia... shia labeouf

[15:33] uh...

[15:34] is there to save her from the demons but

[15:36] it could have been english... his name by the way his name in french means shia the beef

[15:41] interesting...

[15:44] what would that be in spanish fed?

[15:46] shia

[15:47] la carne

[15:49] beautiful...

[15:50] that's a beautiful language

[15:52] dan are you... are you fanning yourself? like a southern lady?

[15:57] you're coming on to me... oh my god...

[16:01] this is why you invited me over

[16:03] uh...

[16:04] he's not even recording right now

[16:08] this is all made of uh... paper mache and marzipan

[16:12] that's why it's so delicious

[16:16] delicious and uh... flowery

[16:19] deadly

[16:22] the scene where the demons reveal themselves to the american girl is very

[16:25] strange because

[16:27] like uh...

[16:28] you know i'm just going to call our hero blood the last vampire because i don't know what her actual character was

[16:32] her name was shia... shia that's right... shia... shia and the american girl was either named

[16:37] alice, allison

[16:38] hollis or annis... annis...

[16:41] there are a lot of different accents screaming her name throughout the movie

[16:45] so it's hard to tell... it sounds different every time someone... and i think she might be the

[16:49] only actually american

[16:51] actress or actor in the film... everyone else

[16:54] everyone else that was american in quotes

[16:57] like

[16:58] for a while sounded american and then suddenly they'd say something... their accent would drift

[17:01] hey come over here you girl

[17:06] you've got to do what she says... i mean says... they were correcting themselves

[17:12] it was really weird

[17:14] but yeah they all seemed to be... they could have just cut and said do that line again but no...

[17:17] they just let it go... they said we're running out of film let's just keep it rolling... it's the last vampire

[17:22] they don't have a lot of time

[17:23] but there was... shia infiltrates this school

[17:29] this military based school

[17:30] where i guess these two demons reveal themselves

[17:34] to alice

[17:36] and get mad at her because alice had an insight about frankenstein

[17:40] in the english class... in english class

[17:44] alice has a very potent insight... probably into

[17:48] mary shelley's frankenstein

[17:49] the two caddy girls who

[17:53] don't like her

[17:55] then stay with her after kendo practice

[17:59] because they're on the kendo team

[18:02] as many american kids are

[18:04] and uh...

[18:05] turn into demons and are going to kill her before blood of the last vampire saves her

[18:09] and

[18:10] it's

[18:11] yeah they just... the demons just suddenly start not liking alice and wanting to kill her

[18:15] for no real reason... yeah and revealing themselves... i mean i guess you know like alice is... they figure alice is going to die

[18:20] but it's very strange... because then she goes to a bar

[18:23] and

[18:24] the kendo teacher is there

[18:26] and he's like

[18:27] she confronts him... she confronts him... you knew they were trying to hurt me

[18:31] and then he's like

[18:32] well there's been a war between your kind and mine and he turns into a demon and

[18:36] everyone in the bar turns into demons and they chase after her... why her? it wasn't like her father was like

[18:41] the head

[18:43] demon killer or they're trying to get to him or something... and unless we missed it there's

[18:47] never a scene where a character says like the prophecy says

[18:50] only in amer... you know you will blah blah blah blah... the only true american among

[18:54] fake american accents

[18:56] you know will bring us all to uh...

[19:01] instead the kendo teacher just turns into uh...

[19:04] like a cross between uh... the guyver and uh...

[19:07] the uh... the creeper from jeepers creepers and flies off with uh...

[19:13] there were some neat moments though in that sequence like when he uh... he

[19:16] he grabs... he grabs allison and then goes running along the uh...

[19:21] the building tops

[19:23] uh... some of the scenes looks really good

[19:28] yeah well a lot of the movie is super

[19:30] stylized like in a very

[19:33] uh... like

[19:35] almost like kung fu hustle

[19:38] shaolin soccer type of way but also like

[19:40] if if you've seen like versus or azami or any of those movies

[19:46] it's like

[19:47] everything is

[19:48] cut cut cut cut cut

[19:49] camera swooshing around oh slow down fast again okay look at that super cut

[19:54] and then you go and it was done for no

[19:55] for no reason for no effect no reason and it was all this

[19:59] fake cg

[20:00] Yeah, all the blood was was CG and like the demon blood I guess was supposed to look different than the human blood

[20:07] But they all looked it all looked the same never saying anything

[20:09] She's like fighting in a white dress and never gets any blood on her

[20:13] Yeah, but it was but it like but the action scenes were genuinely fun like the choreography

[20:18] You couldn't figure out just cutting but it was still neat moments

[20:21] Yeah, well, that's weird to like, you know

[20:23] Sometimes bad special effects are charming and sometimes they're just off-putting and like all the CG blood looks like, you know

[20:30] shots of

[20:31] You know like milk and zero gravity or something

[20:35] whereas like fudge

[20:37] Just fudge spurting out of things

[20:39] the monster on the other hand

[20:41] Like the bad animation kind of made him look like an old like old-fashioned like classical guidance, or yeah

[20:46] There was something charming about it. So I don't know

[20:50] Release the diver

[20:53] Oh, by the way, this is I don't know

[20:56] I don't know why I feel me to specify this because this is so stupid, but this is our first

[21:02] Shocktober episode

[21:04] Oh, yeah, I think no we should go back 22 minutes in with the right time to announce that to reveal it

[21:10] Blood the last vampire was our shocktober

[21:13] October episode number one. It's really not us not a horror movie

[21:18] So much as an action a gory action

[21:22] And I'm an old man get an old man gets covered in knives and then his hands get cut off it's the shocktober movie

[21:27] Well as you pointed out

[21:29] Elliot shocktober just means that there's a

[21:32] 4% more chance that we'll watch a horror oriented film as opposed to something where Katherine Heigl and Gerard Butler

[21:38] Right gad about for a while before falling in love

[21:41] I

[21:46] Was I was

[21:47] I was trying to explain to someone recently how bad the movie The Ugly Truth is and I was having trouble getting across without just

[21:54] Describing scenes outright and saying lines of dialogue from it in in Gerard

[21:59] But was terrible like really over and unseated American accent

[22:04] You don't understand guys only want sex. Come on. Don't you get it girl? I'm a truth-teller

[22:10] Mm-hmm

[22:12] I'm the last sane man

[22:15] In a world gone mad. He never says that

[22:19] Well, this film had a lot of really bad lines that they were just like lifted from from other films, what is he?

[22:26] You've gone soft old man

[22:31] Now who's stupid

[22:34] After you shoot somebody I was almost waiting to hear something like I'm getting too old for this shit. Yeah, it's quiet too quiet

[22:40] Too quiet exactly

[22:42] Well, yeah, tell me the money

[22:44] And they do complete me

[22:46] Yeah, I wish I could I wish I knew how to quit you

[22:50] the general character the

[22:52] Father of them. I could have saved more

[22:56] Chandler's list I put in somebody

[22:59] Yeah

[23:02] Yeah, the father of the of Alice, I think that in terms of bad performances

[23:08] I think he rates only second to Chris Klein

[23:11] and

[23:12] Emily in Street Fighter the legend. Yeah, I didn't see that one. That is a

[23:18] Also bad movie

[23:20] And Chris Klein is in it and it's like

[23:22] It's like he someone bet him. You can't emphasize every syllable that you say

[23:29] Yeah

[23:31] He and Nicolas Cage got drunk one night

[23:35] And they're like the next movie that we do

[23:37] Let's just try not to each other. Let's see if you do it worse than like Chris Klein won. There's one one that bet

[23:44] Uh, there's so yeah, there's a lot of bad. This is not a good. This is like a very forgettable

[23:49] Movie, I'm having a hard time

[23:51] Remembering remembering scenes from it. Yeah, but it zips along

[23:55] That's super fast editing if you like I said

[23:59] You said hey, it was it was quick. It was short

[24:03] Very excitedly you said at the end of the movie. Yeah, we're done with it

[24:06] Yeah

[24:07] I was excited because we've been watching a lot of movies lately that have felt like they've been about

[24:11] Seven hours long and there have been long scenes of people

[24:15] Just walking around or looking at things or Robin Williams and John Travolta like comparing how many pills they take for their old age

[24:23] Problems, you know

[24:25] Yeah after a movie like whiteout, this is just a just a delight, you know

[24:33] This has short scenes of people getting cut with a katana

[24:37] Yeah, right the people jumping around and getting blood spurting out of them fake blood. Yes and monsters suddenly remembering they can grow wings

[24:45] So there was this whole scene where the monster grabs Allison or Hollis or

[24:51] Aniston or whatever name is and drags her across the

[24:54] Rooftop, she's being chased by

[24:56] Sia the Japanese schoolgirl with the with the with the katana katana blade and then suddenly it's like ah, I can fly

[25:03] I'm gonna fly and flies away

[25:06] It flies away in a straight line

[25:08] Following a road pretty low to the ground pretty low to the ground so that they can chase it

[25:13] Through the streets. He's following very easily

[25:16] They get to a runway and he's following a cargo plane with propellers on it and

[25:21] We're all expecting him to get cut up

[25:25] Nope doesn't have on to the plane or like why why did he fly to the the airbase?

[25:32] Yes, he was very expensive for them to shoot on

[25:36] and also

[25:37] Somehow in between cuts our main characters have gone from running from the monster to chasing the monster, right?

[25:44] It's a movie that I really follows no rules and it's like it knows the rules are made to be broken and you get the

[25:49] Idea that well, she can get on the army base or you know

[25:53] Whatever because her father is the is the the one-star general

[25:57] So they all know her but there's never seen of like, you know

[26:00] Let me in or you know, don't you know who I am or something?

[26:02] She just drives right in like well, what it's a poorly guarded army base. It was

[26:08] The same way that one thing army bases are not known for is their security

[26:11] That's true

[26:12] the same way also that like when they're fighting a

[26:14] band of demons in the Sun in the streets and then just being chased to the streets there in I think the

[26:20] The if I if it's the correct name the Ginza neighborhood

[26:23] Which is where like all the bars and things are which should be the streets should be packed with people. Sure

[26:29] No, it's empty completely empty for demons. It's like it's like the whole city just took it just went on vacation

[26:35] And then this the two cleaners just come up into like in like five minutes clean up like what a hundred bodies?

[26:40] Yeah, well, that's the other thing is that everywhere that are the the heroine goes

[26:45] She's followed by two identical guys who are bald and have mustaches. They look like

[26:51] What's his name from

[26:54] From lovely bones. Yeah, I look like to Stanley Tucci's to Stanley Tucci's

[26:58] Yeah, or like the two guys from tin tin with no bowler hats and they just walk

[27:01] They just clean up all the bodies and leave but they have like supernatural cleaning powers

[27:07] You know as long as he wasn't the character from lovely bones will be more fun than to Stanley Tucci's

[27:15] Let's say he's the characters from burlesque

[27:18] coming soon to a theater near you Christina Aguilera

[27:21] The movie that posits that there is an enormous glitzy underground burlesque scene in LA that has a lot of money flowing through it

[27:29] Isn't there and also that the plot of coyote ugly can just be taken wholesale

[27:34] By the way coyote ugly and showgirls the same the same movie two different ratings I

[27:41] Think I can think of the reason why coyote ugly has a different rating than show

[27:48] Frontal nudity, I'm not arguing the different ratings are wrong

[27:51] I'm just saying like if you boil it down

[27:54] There are two movies that are you have the same plot that are going after the same thing

[27:59] Only one of them has the courage of its convictions and the other one is like

[28:03] Maybe we'll throw a thong in here

[28:06] You really thought about this this is an ax you are grinding

[28:12] Dissertation why are you sweating for your doctorate in crap?

[28:18] Your PhD and shit from sorry

[28:23] Podcast is

[28:25] part of my

[28:27] Part of my PhD is your ongoing thesis dissertation is your ongoing thesis called life

[28:33] from the school hard not really beloved

[28:38] Anyway, so

[28:40] Yeah, so blood the last vampire, you know, it is what it is. Let's just make some judgments. Let's

[28:47] Okay. Well, I like your glasses

[28:49] All right, we're gonna do the final judgments

[29:01] It's the plan of the eighth soundtrack

[29:06] Too much

[29:11] You give us a wide variety of options

[29:19] Bumple yeah, I was waiting for to go to the like the National Geographic theme

[29:30] Yeah

[29:32] Well, it's usually not done like

[29:34] As if you're trying not try and make sure nobody here. I remember that mainly from

[29:40] Beginning of Twilight Zone the movie look at that old man. It looks like an old

[29:46] Maybe the best thing

[29:49] It's Albert Brooks and

[29:53] The only good scene in the whole movie that's not true like that that's great. Um, anyway

[30:00] This is a good bad movie, a bad bad movie, a movie you actually kind of liked in some way, fed, go.

[30:05] I think it's a bad bad movie. I really did not.

[30:10] I enjoyed a few moments, a few shots, a few scenes, or moments of scenes were interesting.

[30:17] But in general it was just really, I didn't find it amusing.

[30:22] There wasn't enough of a, well I laughed, but I didn't laugh for the right reasons.

[30:27] It wasn't trying to make me laugh and it wasn't, it took itself way too seriously and I did not really care for it.

[30:34] I enjoyed hanging out with you guys though.

[30:36] Thanks.

[30:37] You'd recommend that to the viewers, to the listeners.

[30:40] Yeah, I'd recommend hanging out with you guys watching a bad movie.

[30:42] You could swing it.

[30:43] Then it's too long.

[30:45] Yeah, I would, what I would say about this is, I hate to be wishy-washy, I feel like we've

[30:50] No you don't.

[30:52] gotten to an area of non-answers recently, but talk about quadrants.

[30:57] I feel like this, I mean I guess they're tridents.

[31:01] I am so confused.

[31:04] This occupies all three tridents.

[31:07] Like tridents like you use when you're spearfishing?

[31:11] What do you mean, gum?

[31:12] Yeah, what is?

[31:14] I mean this is a good, bad movie in the sense that it is not a well-made movie, but I enjoyed much of it.

[31:22] It's a bad, bad movie in that much of it is deeply boring.

[31:26] Uh-huh.

[31:27] And it's a movie I actually kind of liked in some way in the sense that I don't think it's good because I laughed at it.

[31:34] Like the stuff that I enjoyed in it.

[31:36] You enjoyed genuinely.

[31:38] I enjoyed genuinely.

[31:39] So it's sort of a hard call to make.

[31:41] I would say if you turned it off after maybe 40 minutes, you might have a genuinely enjoyable experience with this movie.

[31:50] Because it gets really silly and crazy for a while, and then it gets boring at the end.

[31:55] And dull.

[31:56] It gets duller actually as it goes on.

[31:58] And the ending makes even less sense than the rest of the movie.

[32:01] Yeah.

[32:02] I would say go through the big weird massacre in the town square right up until the demon getting killed on the airstrip, and then that's enough.

[32:15] Yeah.

[32:16] You can turn it off right there.

[32:17] You can turn it off.

[32:18] No, we didn't.

[32:20] We didn't.

[32:21] No, we watch the whole movie.

[32:22] We're invited.

[32:23] We watch the whole thing.

[32:24] We watch it so they don't have to.

[32:25] Yeah, exactly.

[32:26] And don't want to.

[32:27] Uh-huh.

[32:28] I feel the same way you do, Dan.

[32:30] It's not a good movie.

[32:31] I wouldn't really recommend it necessarily, but I did enjoy big chunks of it.

[32:35] So I feel like it's one of those things where if it was 1.30 in the morning and you wanted to watch some kind of violent demon battle and then go to bed.

[32:48] That's your movie.

[32:49] Yeah.

[32:50] Dial this up on your Netflix instant queue.

[32:52] Perfect.

[32:53] And maybe after the town square you could fast forward to the fight between the ninja demons and the old man where he gets stabbed to death.

[33:01] Actually, that scene was actually kind of cool.

[33:04] There was like they were coming out of the ground.

[33:07] Yeah.

[33:08] That was interesting.

[33:09] And she ran up a tree for no reason and then slid down stabbing a guy in the eye.

[33:14] That's where they had the flashback of a flashback of something we'd never seen before.

[33:18] Awesome.

[33:20] There's a demon that's underground and his sword is running.

[33:24] It's like Bugs Bunny going – burrowing underground with just a sword sticking out.

[33:30] I kind of like that actually.

[33:31] Yeah, but getting there is – it's like –

[33:34] Getting there is not half the fun.

[33:36] Yes.

[33:37] There's not enough of that for me to say it's a good, bad movie.

[33:41] If ever there was a movie that you – it is fine to watch the best scenes out of context and there's no reason to watch the rest of it.

[33:49] If someone gave you a cheat sheet and said jump to minute 12 and watch until minute 22 and then jump to this minute and watch these five minutes.

[33:58] You will know that they have spent too much time watching.

[34:00] I would say –

[34:01] Right.

[34:02] That's true.

[34:04] Watch any scene that is supposedly filled with 1970s flavor or where the general is talking to his daughter because he is a terrible actor.

[34:14] I mean it's other stuff you might not get if you skip because it's a pretty subtle movie.

[34:18] Like when you first see the army base, they play war, what is it good for on the soundtrack and it's like that's kind of a subtle touch.

[34:25] The movie is taking a bold anti-Vietnam War stance.

[34:28] The movie is asking a question.

[34:30] War, what is it good for?

[34:32] Yeah, and I guess ridding the world of demon vampires.

[34:35] Right.

[34:38] So I guess now we should move on.

[34:40] Before we get into recommendations, I think we'll go to plugs.

[34:45] Oh.

[34:46] Let's mix it up.

[34:47] Yeah, let's do the plugs now so that people can skip over them.

[34:49] Yeah.

[34:50] No, so they can't skip over them.

[34:52] Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[34:53] That's what I do.

[34:54] What did I say?

[34:55] I listen to this podcast every week.

[34:57] Well, whenever it's on and I always –

[35:00] Don't rub it in.

[35:02] Whenever I hear plugs, I'm like forget it.

[35:05] I grab my iPod and I throw it on the ground and smash it.

[35:08] Really?

[35:09] I'm not going to listen to this.

[35:10] That seems –

[35:11] You could just press pause or –

[35:12] No, no.

[35:13] We are responsible for certain ways.

[35:14] I don't want to even hear the plugs.

[35:17] I don't even want to near my ears.

[35:19] Well, I apologize.

[35:20] Yeah, well, it's very costly for me.

[35:24] Hopefully, you get a bulk discount.

[35:28] Elliot, what do you want to –

[35:30] I'll buy them blister packs.

[35:31] What do you want to plug?

[35:33] What will I plug?

[35:35] Well, well, well.

[35:37] Seven pounds.

[35:40] Well, I won't plug that.

[35:42] I host a monthly film screening series in New York City, the City of Angels.

[35:48] That's not funny.

[35:50] The Big Apple.

[35:51] The Big Angel.

[35:52] Yeah.

[35:53] Windy City.

[35:54] The Red Planet.

[35:56] Take a bite out of the –

[35:57] See the broad shoulders.

[35:58] Satchmo.

[36:00] I stole that joke from someone else.

[36:02] JFK blown away.

[36:03] That's not even a name for a thing.

[36:06] It's a line from a song.

[36:08] That's a good question, yeah.

[36:09] Come on.

[36:10] I've often said that once it gets to rock and roll or color war, I can't really take it anymore.

[36:16] I host a monthly film screening series in New York City, closely watch films.

[36:22] Our next one is next week.

[36:25] Will this be going up this weekend, Dan?

[36:26] Yes, it will go up this weekend.

[36:27] So this coming week, Wednesday, October 6th at 7.30 p.m., I'll be showing the film The Black Cat,

[36:36] starring Belle Lugosi and Boris Karloff, the best of the movies they made together

[36:41] and the first of the movies they made together, directed by Edgar G. Ulmer,

[36:44] which involves Belle Lugosi as an insane psychiatrist.

[36:49] He is the hero of the film.

[36:51] Really?

[36:52] Boris Karloff as a satanic architect who has the best pajamas I've seen in a movie.

[36:58] The movie has a very neat kind of like art deco gothic look to it

[37:04] and for some reason that means some of the best men's pajamas that I've seen in movies.

[37:09] But it's a movie that – it's one of the universal horror films of the 30s

[37:13] and it's one of the lesser watched ones because there's no like big name monster in it.

[37:18] It's a very creepy, weird movie and like there's satanism and torture

[37:26] and general weirdness and death and creepiness and like World War I guilt and things like that.

[37:34] Like it's this weird stew of elements and it's a very haunting movie.

[37:39] So I'll be showing that and then I'll also be showing in a very cut down version.

[37:42] That I'll be showing in full on 35mm print and then I have edited down the movie Dr. X starring Lionel Atwill

[37:51] from its original run of 75 minutes down to about eight and a half, nine minutes

[37:56] and I'll be showing you just the best parts of the Lee Tracy, Lionel Atwill, semi not really a classic

[38:02] but it's pretty fun Dr. X, which is another weird – it's another weird one that it's a 30s horror movie

[38:08] that involves like cannibal murderers and things like things that you would not expect to find in a 30s movie.

[38:14] Well, I was going to ask you this. So first of all, where do you get the prints from?

[38:18] The prints – the people at 92i Tribeca where the movies are screened.

[38:22] I should say that. It's at 92i Tribeca, which is 200 Hudson Street downtown in Tribeca

[38:27] and I hope Dan will put up the information on the website.

[38:30] Thank you.

[38:32] They get the prints from different distributors and Christina, who is the programmer there, actually arranges to get them.

[38:40] That's amazing.

[38:41] And we once had to show a 16mm print of closely watched trains because we couldn't find – they couldn't find a 35mm

[38:47] but everything we've shown otherwise is 35mm prints and we've got a good slew of movies coming up.

[38:53] The Black Cat on Wednesday, October 6th. In November, we'll be showing Dodsworth, which is at a print on DVD I think

[39:00] and in December, we'll be showing A Thousand Clowns, which has never been released on DVD and they should all be very good prints.

[39:07] Well, that sounds like a Shocktober treat.

[39:11] Thank you. It's very nice of you to say.

[39:15] You just throw that in for anything, right?

[39:17] So I would like to plug – well, first of all…

[39:21] It's not a trick but a treat.

[39:23] It's not going to soap the windows.

[39:26] No, or egg the house.

[39:28] You just say that all through October, like you're at a restaurant, they're bringing you food.

[39:31] Here's your hamburger, sir. A perfect Shocktober hamburger.

[39:36] I don't Shocktober know what you're talking about.

[39:41] Well, well, Shocktober fest again, huh?

[39:45] This beer is spookily good.

[39:49] That reminds me, I didn't do our special Shocktober specifications.

[39:55] You're a little rusty. It's been a month. A little rusty.

[40:00] Rusty Flophouse.

[40:02] The third year in a row of Shocktober and I have dropped the ball.

[40:06] Do you just say it like a vampire voice?

[40:08] It's like, was this scarily bad or like spookily good?

[40:14] Was this a real scare factory? A real snore factory? Or was it a... I don't know.

[40:21] A duck factory. Starring Jim Carrey.

[40:24] Or did you kind of... never mind. That's better.

[40:28] So I would like to plug... well, first of all, you should go to 9ammeeting.com

[40:34] and watch the award winning web series.

[40:37] It's very funny. It's a very funny series.

[40:40] You sound so grudging when you say it.

[40:42] Well, I begrudge anyone else's success.

[40:45] No, I know.

[40:46] As anyone in comedy.

[40:47] It's really very strange because you're so much more successful than me.

[40:50] Well, I like to keep a safe margin between the two of us.

[40:53] So anything you do that closes that margin a little bit.

[40:57] But I also would like to plug on October the 18th, which is a Monday.

[41:03] I don't know exactly when. I'll put it on the website.

[41:07] A moon day.

[41:09] On October the 18th, a screenplay I wrote is being read at the JCCC,

[41:17] the Jewish Cultural Center, as part of the WGA East, Writers Guild of America East, reading series.

[41:25] Yeah, don't worry everybody. Dan did not convert.

[41:27] No.

[41:28] He has not abandoned his faith just to get his screenplay read at the JCCC.

[41:32] It's true. It was chosen by the Writers Guild.

[41:36] The JCCC just happened to be a good venue.

[41:38] And so there are two screenplays that are having excerpts written or read.

[41:44] Twenty page excerpts are going to be read from my screenplay and another gentleman's screenplay

[41:49] by professional actors.

[41:51] Very nice.

[41:52] And the cost is $10 for the general public, $8, I believe, for guild members.

[41:58] That's me.

[41:59] Yeah.

[42:00] Hey.

[42:01] Only $8. I'll buy a ticket now. Here, Dan, here's $8.

[42:04] Thank you.

[42:06] Can you write me out a ticket?

[42:07] No, I can't, but I will enjoy the $8.

[42:09] Dull.

[42:10] But if you want to come and see what qualifies me to make fun of movies,

[42:16] which is nothing because this is not a produced screenplay, you can do that.

[42:23] You can come and enjoy 20 pages and not know what happens next.

[42:27] And what day is it again?

[42:28] It's October the 18th. That's a Monday.

[42:30] At what time?

[42:31] I think it's at 7.30, but I'm not sure.

[42:33] My screening is also at 7.30.

[42:35] Okay.

[42:36] So that might be a conflict.

[42:37] Well, they're on different dates.

[42:39] Oh, great. Okay. Then that shouldn't be a problem.

[42:41] Then I can go to both.

[42:42] Yeah.

[42:43] And you can have two listeners.

[42:44] So you can't do anything at 7.30 any day?

[42:47] Not if I have, yeah.

[42:49] If you have something coming up at 7.30, then forget it.

[42:52] No. Just come to our stuff.

[42:54] Okay.

[42:55] And you'll put up the information on the website for your screenplay reading?

[42:59] Yes.

[43:00] What's the name of your screenplay?

[43:01] It's called Orientation.

[43:03] And speaking of demons, it involves demons.

[43:07] Oh.

[43:08] So if you enjoyed the demons element.

[43:10] From the Orient.

[43:11] If you like demons, you'll love Orientation.

[43:14] Yeah.

[43:15] If you want demons in a 20-page form that does not involve Blood of the Last Vampire, this is your best option.

[43:22] Sounds pretty good, actually. Yeah.

[43:24] If you're getting your Ph.D. in demonology,

[43:27] don't forget to show up for the Orientation at the university that teaches demonology.

[43:33] The JCC.

[43:34] Perfect.

[43:36] I'm just trying to come up with a good intro for your film.

[43:42] Okay. I'll get it. Just give me like an hour or two. I'll work on it.

[43:46] What do you want to plug, Fed?

[43:48] I have nothing really to plug.

[43:49] Plug the Last Vampire.

[43:50] I'll tell you.

[43:54] That would have been a better movie. Plug the Last Vampire.

[43:57] P-L-infinity-G.

[44:00] Plug.

[44:01] Plug.

[44:02] Comic book artist Mike Plug.

[44:03] The Last Vampire.

[44:04] The Last Vampire.

[44:05] Well, I'll just mention again that I do this podcast called Budo Mac.

[44:13] It's a Spanish-language podcast about Apple and its products and so on.

[44:18] I've been doing it for four years.

[44:21] I'll say it again. Much to my surprise, it's wildly successful.

[44:27] It's odd to say this, but it really is the number one Spanish-language podcast about Apple that's out there.

[44:36] I can't explain it. I don't often think it's that good, but people seem to like it.

[44:41] So there you go.

[44:42] Good pitch.

[44:43] Great plug.

[44:44] I'm very self-deprecating about it.

[44:46] It's a conversation between two friends.

[44:49] It's my friend Flavio and me, and we just talk about Apple stuff,

[44:53] and we share things we've learned, and we bitch about Apple, and it's a good hour.

[45:00] Now plug it again in Spanish.

[45:03] If you don't speak Spanish, you won't enjoy it.

[45:08] I think we have the whitest podcast audience of any podcast.

[45:14] We have a lot of letters from prisons.

[45:17] We have a surprising number of female fans, though.

[45:21] I would not.

[45:22] I was talking about an ethnic group, not that.

[45:27] No, I understand. I'm aware of what you said.

[45:30] I understand gender.

[45:31] On a separate note, I'm surprised by the number of female fans that we have.

[45:35] I'm not. We say a lot of funny things.

[45:39] We have Stewart and your deep, baritone voice.

[45:44] You've got my high-pitched squeal.

[45:48] It calls women to the yard like a dog whistle.

[45:52] It brings out the maternal element in him.

[45:55] Oh, that child sounds like he's in trouble.

[45:58] He needs taken care of.

[46:00] He's hungry.

[46:02] Sorry, ladies, I'm taken.

[46:05] Just missed him.

[46:06] There's already someone to deal with my unmanageable neuroses.

[46:11] That doesn't have anything to do with how high your voice is.

[46:15] My unmanageable neuroses.

[46:17] I would put them up against yours in a second, sir.

[46:20] All right.

[46:21] Well, you've heard it here, a challenge.

[46:23] A neuroses-off.

[46:24] I know you both.

[46:26] Which one of our wives will leave us first is the challenge.

[46:32] That's a good question.

[46:33] Well, are we counting from the beginning of the marriage?

[46:35] Because you've been married longer than I have.

[46:37] I think the only fair way to do it is in total number of years.

[46:40] Okay.

[46:41] I mean, yes.

[46:42] If this is a competition, you really have to do it fairly.

[46:45] Okay, yeah.

[46:46] You really should keep driving this.

[46:47] What's the over-under on this?

[46:48] I don't know.

[46:49] I mean, the thing is neither of us can bet on it because then we'll just try and drive our wives off.

[46:54] Or drive the other one's wife off.

[46:56] True.

[46:57] And the funny part is no matter who wins, you both lose.

[46:59] That is funny.

[47:01] Yeah.

[47:02] All right.

[47:03] Makes me smile.

[47:04] So let's move on to recommendations.

[47:08] Recommendations.

[47:10] Movies that we saw.

[47:25] But it doesn't matter to you when you got a job you do.

[47:29] Oh.

[47:38] Okay, now.

[47:39] Oh, yeah.

[47:42] Now that we've driven our audience off with mouth sounds.

[47:47] As we do every episode.

[47:48] Wait, this is not the mouth sound podcast?

[47:50] Yeah.

[47:51] We're doing two hours of people just going.

[47:55] This is the part where we.

[47:59] This is the part where we recommend movies.

[48:01] It's late.

[48:02] It's good times.

[48:03] Recommend movies that we saw, that we enjoyed, that one might like to see rather than Blood of the Last Vampire.

[48:09] I'm going to start off and say that I haven't seen a lot of older movies recently.

[48:14] But two movies that I saw this summer that were not financial successes certainly.

[48:21] And to a lesser degree were not critical successes.

[48:23] Although did pretty well.

[48:27] Were Prana 3D and Scott Pilgrim vs. the World.

[48:31] Both very niche films.

[48:33] But both.

[48:34] Both enjoyable entertainment.

[48:36] Yeah, both satisfied the sweet spot.

[48:38] I mean like Prana 3D had the absurd levels of nudity and gore that one would expect out of a late 70s, early to mid 80s movie.

[48:49] But have not seen since.

[48:51] And that was a special occasion too.

[48:54] Because we went to see Prana 3D the day of my wedding.

[48:57] Awesome.

[48:58] The audience might think that's a joke.

[49:00] It is not.

[49:01] No.

[49:02] Me and Dan was one of my groomsmen.

[49:04] Me and my groomsmen and a couple of other friends decided that.

[49:08] Including Flophouser, Stuart Wellington.

[49:10] Flophouser, Stuart Wellington and Flophouse super fans, Sunny Orosh and Matt Carman.

[49:15] We decided to all go see Prana 3D the day of the wedding early in the morning just to get out of the girls hair.

[49:22] Just to get out of the way because you got to see it before the wedding.

[49:25] And it was a lot of fun.

[49:28] Set the mood.

[49:29] I felt bad for the other two people in the audience who were not with us.

[49:33] Because we talked and laughed throughout the movie.

[49:36] And probably ruined their genuine appreciation of Prana 3D.

[49:40] But that was a lot of fun.

[49:42] It was very enjoyable.

[49:43] And Adam Scott and Christopher Lloyd were particular high points.

[49:48] And Jerry O'Connell.

[49:49] And Jerry O'Connell was very funny.

[49:51] And Kelly Brook who was nude in the water.

[49:54] So that was good too.

[49:55] Yeah, there's a lot of nudity and women.

[50:00] and like

[50:00] nudity followed by violence

[50:03] it there is there is not i'm not a fan of the nation

[50:05] i'm not a fan of nudity followed by the best

[50:07] the best the best nakedness was the

[50:10] on the non-prana attack

[50:12] long underwater nude ballet because yeah the underwater on its own the nude

[50:16] underwater lesbian ballet was yeah was the high point of the film

[50:20] uh... you sold me a nude

[50:23] i don't even know what's naked

[50:25] i don't know what to do with the rest of it

[50:27] there's a nude okay i'm going to figure that underwater would be the thing that

[50:31] sold you

[50:32] i like underwater too

[50:35] there's a website i mentioned i was a long time ago in an old old podcast

[50:40] i was talking about something i overheard at comic-con

[50:43] that i thought was a website called aquafan.com but it was aquamanfan.com

[50:47] and we looked up what aquafan.com was and it was a blog about underwater sex

[50:51] and there was only one posting to it

[50:54] and it was

[50:55] underwater sex anybody tried this question mark pretty awesome

[51:00] that was it that was the entire blog

[51:02] uh... but anyway and scott pilgrim vs the world is also a fine entertainment

[51:08] you know when it tanked i felt sort of bad

[51:12] not seeing it i felt bad because i'm like oh you know i always feel bad when

[51:15] something that i

[51:16] think is sort of pitched to me

[51:18] uh... goes poorly and you know i like edgar wright i liked the comics

[51:24] but then i watched the movie

[51:26] and i realized that

[51:27] to anyone

[51:28] who didn't have a very specific grounding in like

[51:32] classic video games

[51:33] comics

[51:35] japanese culture like uh... alternative like rock like all these things like

[51:40] it must have been a baffling experience

[51:43] and uh... you know it's enough that the movie got made

[51:46] it's enough that the movie got made and i enjoyed it

[51:50] those people are going to make other movies

[51:52] you know what like this

[51:54] no but i i feel the same way

[51:56] it felt like when i watched i enjoyed a lot and i felt like this is a movie that

[52:01] hit my spot

[52:04] but i could see why it would not be the right movie for other people

[52:07] i didn't see it but i didn't see it not because i didn't want to just like

[52:10] i never got around to seeing it but it looked like it was

[52:12] really enjoyable

[52:14] i want to see it on netflix

[52:17] you host a podcast about apple

[52:18] so i think

[52:20] also probably in the demographic

[52:22] oh i guess so

[52:24] well i just like the uh... there's an old man who hosts a podcast about apples

[52:27] exactly i don't think he'd like it

[52:29] see good point

[52:31] uh... but the style of it is

[52:35] i like apples

[52:39] the imagery is really good

[52:42] this is tom johnson

[52:44] i like apples

[52:45] good apple into you

[52:50] i'm stuck on

[52:52] stuck on that

[52:53] it uh... the imagery like uh... no it was beautifully shot it looked really

[52:57] amazing

[52:58] yeah

[53:00] yeah it was too bad it didn't find its audience

[53:03] or its audience is the worst

[53:08] it'll find its audience on dvd or netflix or whatever

[53:09] i hope so

[53:10] uh...

[53:11] fred do you have any recommendations

[53:12] uh... sure uh...

[53:14] i saw this movie uh... a while ago and it's been it's i think it's

[53:18] it's been out for three or four years it's been out for a while

[53:21] a long time but i remember

[53:24] that when i saw it i was very surprised at how much i liked it and it's the mist

[53:28] which is a film version of a steven king novella

[53:33] it wasn't even like a full length

[53:35] a steven king telenovela

[53:38] te odio

[53:41] uh... and uh... it was uh...

[53:44] if you're unfamiliar with it it's about what happens

[53:47] to a town but more specifically to a bunch of people who are trapped in a

[53:51] grocery store

[53:52] when this mysterious mist envelops the town and the grocery store and they're

[53:57] trapped inside

[53:58] uh... and the reason i liked it so much was because well apart from

[54:02] from very good acting

[54:04] uh... and the fact that the special effects were

[54:07] were well done they serve the purpose of the film as opposed to being

[54:11] the reason for the film like transformers or something like that

[54:15] uh...

[54:16] it was really just a story about what happens when people are trapped

[54:20] in

[54:22] a place and they can't leave

[54:24] and they all have very different ideas about what life is about and how to

[54:28] survive and what they're supposed to do and

[54:31] uh... how uh... how civility breaks down

[54:33] yeah that kind of situation what you're saying is

[54:36] the true monster

[54:37] is us

[54:38] what that you just

[54:40] what the

[54:41] holy

[54:42] what

[54:43] i was not thinking that i don't think so like there's probably like a monster

[54:48] with like claws

[54:49] oh no you're right oh yes yeah

[54:51] like a werepire or like a frankenwulf

[54:56] i mean really the film was just about a bunch of monsters killing people

[54:59] or like mummy kong which is why

[55:03] which is why i liked it like a dracugan that's a dracula dragon

[55:08] like a dracosaurus you know

[55:11] that common monster

[55:14] like a hunchback zilla one of those like that's the real monster

[55:19] yeah true

[55:21] uh... yeah anyway

[55:23] you know like a like a ghost mobile

[55:26] you know like a like a

[55:28] like a murder burger

[55:30] you know

[55:31] so it's a monster for you

[55:35] uh...

[55:36] the uh... i'll recommend just to confuse people

[55:39] a different movie called black cat

[55:40] than the one that i'm screening next month

[55:43] i do recommend the black cat with boris karloff and bella gosi which i'll be

[55:47] screening next

[55:48] i'll be screening this coming week wednesday october sixth double plug

[55:53] re-plug

[55:55] but the uh...

[55:56] there's a japanese movie called uh... kuneko

[55:59] uh... or black cat what does that mean in english roughly black cat

[56:04] it has a longer japanese title but it's known as kuneko here

[56:07] and

[56:08] it's about as kanami i feel like i may have recommended before but i don't

[56:12] think so but it's about

[56:14] the this woman and this uh...

[56:17] woman and her mother-in-law

[56:19] uh... the one man in the family

[56:21] goes off to war in fetal japan

[56:23] so it's just his wife and his mother left in this house

[56:26] they are killed by samurai

[56:28] and they come back as cat demon ghosts

[56:31] that seduce samurai and then murder them

[56:33] and in order to end the

[56:36] meanwhile the son is the last surviving member of this battle

[56:40] uh... that he was in he there's a sequence where he kills a giant

[56:43] basically

[56:44] uh... that's really great and so the daimyo the warlord uh...

[56:49] sends him to

[56:51] stop this cat

[56:52] this thing that's killing other samurais

[56:54] him not knowing that it's his the reincarnation of his uh... wife and

[56:59] mother

[56:59] uh... getting their revenge as cat demons and like

[57:02] cat demon stories are not uncommon in japan

[57:05] but they're kind but they sound really weird when you talk about them in america

[57:08] no i mean they sound totally normal but it's it's directed it's by the same

[57:12] director as the movie onibaba

[57:14] which is a little bit better known

[57:16] uh... and it's this very

[57:18] at very atmospheric very cool like neat

[57:21] suspenseful weird

[57:23] uh...

[57:24] ghost story movie

[57:25] and it's actually playing for a week this month at film forum this is a movie

[57:29] i wanted to show in my screening series

[57:31] but we couldn't get a print of it we didn't and

[57:34] the film forum is date is advertising this as the new york debut of this movie

[57:39] which came out in nineteen sixty eight so i wonder if it's actually never been

[57:42] shown in theaters in new york before

[57:44] so as much as i hate to promote another

[57:47] theater

[57:48] uh...

[57:49] it's worth going to see it so you're saying if you go to new york screening

[57:52] of the black cat

[57:54] you can't go wrong what i'm saying is

[57:56] either there are two movies called the black cat that are playing in new york

[57:59] they're both great they're both awesome go to the one i'm showing

[58:02] and then go to if you see only one black cat movie in new york this month don't see

[58:06] mine no see mine oh yeah see yours see mine with boris karloff and bella gosi but

[58:11] then later if you see two that's not a bad decision if you see two

[58:15] later in the month go see koneko

[58:17] at film forum because it's real and if you miss the film forum sometimes they

[58:21] show it on

[58:22] uh... ifc which is where i saw it on television and if you see none

[58:26] go fuck yourself

[58:27] if you don't see any movies called black cat i don't even want to know you

[58:30] like what are you doing what are you doing with your life look in the mirror

[58:34] and ask yourself some questions i've been plugging this and plugging this all night

[58:38] and if you don't see it

[58:40] and now you're not going to see it

[58:41] fine well shut up okay fine you know what

[58:44] i never liked you

[58:46] i mean i'm not going to go that far

[58:49] but it is a very cool atmospheric movie

[58:51] okay

[58:52] well guys i think this has been a delightful uh... return

[58:56] thanks for uh... for the invitation to uh... thank you for coming and joining

[59:00] us

[59:01] uh... for the flop house i've been dan mccoy

[59:06] uh... i

[59:07] well i can go next i usually go last for this

[59:10] i didn't

[59:11] sorry

[59:12] i am and will continue being and enjoyed being here

[59:17] federico hatoum

[59:18] and in this car

[59:20] the menace is smaller

[59:22] the man from the east

[59:24] the devil may care

[59:26] the devil wears prada

[59:29] the ugly truth

[59:31] the man that planned the canal paramount

[59:35] ellie kalin

[59:37] goodnight everyone

[59:49] okay

[59:53] said as if you are a teacher

[59:55] uh... about to start

[59:57] plans already

[59:59] and three

[1:00:00] Two.

[1:00:01] I thought you were going to cough.

[1:00:08] No, no.

[1:00:09] That was Johnny.

[1:00:10] I see.

The Flop House: Episode #66 - Blood: The Last Vampire

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